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What are the Mob's Greatest Hits on not members.

Posted By: abc123

What are the Mob's Greatest Hits on not members. - 01/31/15 08:56 AM

What are the Mob's Greatest Hits on not members.
Posted By: domwoods74

Re: What are the Mob's Greatest Hits on not members. - 01/31/15 09:03 AM

Wouldn't call them great but the kubecka Barstow murders the Mary Bari murder the Patricia cappozallo attempted murder the wrong Nicky guido murder , the Daniel seifert murders stand out for me
Posted By: Serpiente

Re: What are the Mob's Greatest Hits on not members. - 01/31/15 09:08 AM

In the late 70's Nick (The Blade)Virgilio driven by Nicky Scarfo sr. drives the Blade to Helfants bar and restaurant in the hart of Atlantic City during a snow storm and the blade walks right in and blasts the judge .
Posted By: furio_from_naples

Re: What are the Mob's Greatest Hits on not members. - 01/31/15 09:20 AM

For me the murder of JFK (for those who believe), the disappearance of Jimmy Hoffa in 1975 are in the top of the list, then the murder of Danny Green, the murders of George Aronwald and police officers Carlo Antonino and Ralph Dols.
Posted By: domwoods74

Re: What are the Mob's Greatest Hits on not members. - 01/31/15 10:02 AM

Also joe salerno and anthony fava the guy who built casso's house
Posted By: RedBullets

Re: What are the Mob's Greatest Hits on not members. - 01/31/15 11:36 AM

All of Albert Anastasia's witness murders. And Hoffa.
Posted By: downtown

Re: What are the Mob's Greatest Hits on not members. - 01/31/15 11:36 AM

Carmine Galante killing Carlo Tresca for Vito Genovese , and Albert Anastasis ordering the murder of Arnold Schuster blowing out his eyes for giving up Willie Sutton.
Posted By: DuesPaid

Re: What are the Mob's Greatest Hits on not members. - 01/31/15 12:17 PM

I believe, that would have to go to JFK.
Posted By: pmac

Re: What are the Mob's Greatest Hits on not members. - 01/31/15 03:31 PM

what about that fat guy in the restaurant that got blown away by the westside in the late 80tys. some movie shit, he had a super hot chick eaten with him. bobby manna set it up.
Posted By: pmac

Re: What are the Mob's Greatest Hits on not members. - 01/31/15 03:33 PM

worst could be that nicky guido guy, or the 2 trash guys or cassos house builder. they had a few amuso and casso. wonder if amuso sighned off on them all or casso snuck them. was amuso convicted on any of them?
Posted By: downtown

Re: What are the Mob's Greatest Hits on not members. - 01/31/15 04:01 PM

Originally Posted By: pmac
what about that fat guy in the restaurant that got blown away by the westside in the late 80tys. some movie shit, he had a super hot chick eaten with him. bobby manna set it up.
Irwin (Fat Man) Schiff , also not Killed but Reporter Victor Reisel was blinded buy acid attack on orders of Johnny Dio.
Posted By: pizzaboy

Re: What are the Mob's Greatest Hits on not members. - 01/31/15 04:06 PM

Originally Posted By: downtown
also not Killed but Reporter Victor Reisel was blinded buy acid attack on orders of Johnny Dio.

That was fucked up, and pretty much against the rules (in America anyway). I've heard one version where Dio went off the reservation and ordered the acid attack himself, and that Tommy Lucchese went ballistic when he found out. But Dio was a cash machine, so he let it go. But who knows?
Posted By: Dwalin2011

Re: What are the Mob's Greatest Hits on not members. - 01/31/15 04:14 PM

Why was Schiff hit anyway? Was he involved in crime and slipped in some way or was he a normal businessman who didn't want to pay protection?
Posted By: Binnie_Coll

Re: What are the Mob's Greatest Hits on not members. - 01/31/15 05:08 PM

how about the women, Janice drake sitting in a car, her head blown off. Estelle cary, burned alive by the Chicago outfit. Thelma todd a hollywod actress came in disfavor of lucky Luciano, and he clipped her.

gus greenbaums wife whose throat was slit, of course most of the women butchered, the Chicago outfit ordered the hits.
Posted By: Dwalin2011

Re: What are the Mob's Greatest Hits on not members. - 01/31/15 05:19 PM

I think there was a case when the Colombos killed a nun (Veronica Zuraw) in 1982. Thomas Gioeli was alleged to be involved.
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: What are the Mob's Greatest Hits on not members. - 01/31/15 05:23 PM

What about the beautician chick who Tommy De Simone was nailing?

And the two kids that were murdered by The Gemini Crew?

And the pornographer that De Meo whacked?

And Frederick Todaro?

And the kid that witnessed Gaggi & De Meo whacking the Eppolito's?
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: What are the Mob's Greatest Hits on not members. - 01/31/15 05:24 PM

Originally Posted By: Dwalin2011
I think there was a case when the Colombos killed a nun (Veronica Zuraw) in 1982. Thomas Gioeli was alleged to be involved.


George Aronwald too.
Posted By: pizzaboy

Re: What are the Mob's Greatest Hits on not members. - 01/31/15 05:30 PM

Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
Originally Posted By: Dwalin2011
I think there was a case when the Colombos killed a nun (Veronica Zuraw) in 1982. Thomas Gioeli was alleged to be involved.


George Aronwald too.

A savage hit and clusterfuck. And people just kept getting killed when they became expendable. The Carinis got popped, then the guys who popped the Carinis got popped. All out of paranoia, and over trying to hit a Fed, which is supposed to be against the rules in the American Mafia. But that's neither here nor there.
Posted By: Binnie_Coll

Re: What are the Mob's Greatest Hits on not members. - 01/31/15 05:35 PM

Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
What about the beautician chick who Tommy De Simone was nailing?

And the two kids that were murdered by The Gemini Crew?

And the pornographer that De Meo whacked?

And Frederick Todaro?

And the kid that witnessed Gaggi & De Meo whacking the Eppolito's?


yeah, moe you are right the brunette that desimone cut open. her name was I think Theresa fararra. and one of the girls the Gemini crew killed was named sherrie golden.

I think killing women is cowardly, and only the sickest dogs do it.
Posted By: Alfa Romeo

Re: What are the Mob's Greatest Hits on not members. - 01/31/15 09:04 PM

Really Binnie if you think about it, a hit on anyone is cowardly. It's not like it's hand to hand combat. Everything is on the sneak.

In mob lore, prolific hitmen are lauded as so masculine, even super masculine. But their profession is a cowardly one.

A prime example is how Vince Governara wupped Nino Gaggi in a man to man fight. Gaggi couldn't get revenge any other way except to try and blow the guy up. He failed at that, and so then he and DeMeo (a bigger coward) shoot the guy.

Not brave.
Posted By: Malandrino

Re: What are the Mob's Greatest Hits on not members. - 01/31/15 09:11 PM

Of course Alfa, but you know mobsters aren't really known for being fair, or "fair" fighting. They're Machiavellian to the core.. they read The Prince and study it.
Plus, at the end of the day, life isn't fair... by that comparison American troops are pussies using nightvision when bombing or killing enemies armed with inferior technology.

I get what you mean though, but when the stakes are so high, there's no such thing as fair anymore.
Posted By: conopizza

Re: What are the Mob's Greatest Hits on not members. - 02/01/15 03:27 AM

Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden

And the kid that witnessed Gaggi & De Meo whacking the Eppolito's?


Patrick Penny.

That's a good one to recall on the occasion folks want to recall what a 'stand up guy' etc Gaggi was. He was a verrry lucky piece of shit he wasn't killed by that off-duty cop after the Eppolito hits, for starters...

There's a great book to be written JUST about the Patrick Penny killing but I highly doubt it could be done; you'd have to find Penny's family, the D.A.s, possibly jurors, those two girls in the car with him in Brighton Beach the night of the hit... etc.

Still, there a lot of details, stories out there not covered in say "Murder Machine," "The Brotherhoods" and the various lesser books.

Veronicz Zeraw was a ** former ** nun btw but that was still awful of course.

Another, related topic would be innocents wounded in hits or, more rarely, attempted hits. You really have to go through the newspapers day by day in the 1970s/80s to get a sense of how crazy things were, good # of hits esp. on associates or those of unknown relations just came & went, unsolved, and if they're unrelated to anyone who later flipped... it's forgotten.
Posted By: conopizza

Re: What are the Mob's Greatest Hits on not members. - 02/01/15 03:31 AM

Originally Posted By: pmac
cassos house builder. they had a few amuso and casso. wonder if amuso sighned off on them all or casso snuck them. was amuso convicted on any of them?


Anthony Fava.

http://articles.philly.com/1992-07-20/news/26027522_1_casso-dream-house-luchese

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/11/nyregion/11kruger.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

I think I posted similar in the Canarsie thread but what the hell; madness nested in madness.
Posted By: DE NIRO

Re: What are the Mob's Greatest Hits on not members. - 02/01/15 05:57 AM

If we are including the Italian Mafia then the Anti mafia judge Giovanni Falcone would have to be number 1..
Posted By: domwoods74

Re: What are the Mob's Greatest Hits on not members. - 02/01/15 06:13 AM

Originally Posted By: Binnie_Coll
Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
What about the beautician chick who Tommy De Simone was nailing?

And the two kids that were murdered by The Gemini Crew?

And the pornographer that De Meo whacked?

And Frederick Todaro?

And the kid that witnessed Gaggi & De Meo whacking the Eppolito's?


yeah, moe you are right the brunette that desimone cut open. her name was I think Theresa fararra. and one of the girls the Gemini crew killed was named sherrie golden.

I think killing women is cowardly, and only the sickest dogs do it.
yeah Dominic raggucci was the vacuum salesmen demo whacked thinking he was a Cuban hit man
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: What are the Mob's Greatest Hits on not members. - 02/01/15 06:32 AM

Matteo Speranza was killed in a case of mistaken identity in a Brooklyn bagel shop during the early 90's Colombo war.
Posted By: Beanshooter

Re: What are the Mob's Greatest Hits on not members. - 02/01/15 06:40 AM

The mistaken hit on two businessmen and wounding of two other Civilians at the Neopolitan Nooddle House in the early '70's during the Colombo wars.
Posted By: PP

Re: What are the Mob's Greatest Hits on not members. - 02/01/15 02:54 PM

Michael Cagnoni
Posted By: Binnie_Coll

Re: What are the Mob's Greatest Hits on not members. - 02/01/15 06:23 PM

Originally Posted By: Beanshooter
The mistaken hit on two businessmen and wounding of two other Civilians at the Neopolitan Nooddle House in the early '70's during the Colombo wars.


I read about that one, that was a real slaughter, right in broad daylight, the killers got the wrong guys, and it really brought the heat down, which it should have.
Posted By: Dwalin2011

Re: What are the Mob's Greatest Hits on not members. - 02/01/15 06:50 PM

Originally Posted By: Binnie_Coll
Originally Posted By: Beanshooter
The mistaken hit on two businessmen and wounding of two other Civilians at the Neopolitan Nooddle House in the early '70's during the Colombo wars.


I read about that one, that was a real slaughter, right in broad daylight, the killers got the wrong guys, and it really brought the heat down, which it should have.

But was it enough heat to get anyone convicted or did everything end "as usually"?
Posted By: Tony_Pro

Re: What are the Mob's Greatest Hits on not members. - 02/01/15 10:39 PM

Originally Posted By: downtown
Carmine Galante killing Carlo Tresca for Vito Genovese , and Albert Anastasis ordering the murder of Arnold Schuster blowing out his eyes for giving up Willie Sutton.


Joe Bonano pretty much coped to the Tresca murder.

I've never been able to figure out why people beleived the logic that Genovese reached-out across an ocean during the biggest war in history (between two countries at war-usually it's kind of hard to communicate when that happens) to plan a murder in New York to impress Mussilini.

Much less the logic that someone outside of his old crew would do it. In 1943 Genovese was in exlie in a nation at war with America, at the time one would have to assume that there was zero chance he was ever coming back to America.

Who would do a hit for a guy with no pull in America at the time and who had allied himself with Mossolini, a person who most cosa nostra guys reviled for repressing their friends, business associates and relatives back home?

That theory has never made sense.
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