Chickie Ciancaglini wants back in

Below is a link to my new Gangster Report site where I have posted a new piece I did on Chickie Ciancaglini's reemergence as a factor in the Philadelphia mafia

www.gangsterreport.com

Is Philly making new members or is it fading away?

Theyve had several making ceremonies throughout the last decade.

Nice article Scott. Seems like Philly is finally getting back on a steady course, minus Borgeisi??? (for however long that may last).

Who do we know that has been made since 2000;

off the top of my head - Sonny Mazzone, Dom Grande, Anthony Borgesi, Joey Electric Servito, Eric Esposito, Damian Canalichio, Anthony Nicodemo, Anthony Staino. Phil Ligambi, Marty Crutch Curro?

I know im forgetting a few

Phil Ligambi must have been long in the tooth when he was made.

Lou Fazzini, albert lanceliotti

Wow!......Choice of any of the 3 top positions?

Hmmmmm! Which one would I take?

I would take Boss BUT, I would also have a Front Boss which he himself, would have a Street Boss....2 layers of insulation, should be enough for his remaining years alive. He would essentially be the Consigliere to law enforcement BUT, the boys inside know who the man is.

Choose door number 1 Chickie! You took your lumps!


I think Gene Gotti thinks he is gonna get the same respect but think NY will not give him anything above capo.

Isn't dom grande also made? And like someone mentioned the young al lance is made..nephew of mikey lance... Grande and al lance are both young, early 30's... Then there's the other group of youngsters who hang around narducci.. Does anyone know if andrew micali is made? The kid who got wrapped up in the borgata case? He was caught on the wiretap with nicodemo when he was talking about lambs and lions on the hill, telling him to tone it down a notch while he himself is saying a bunch of shit he shouldn't be saying on the phone. Thought that was pretty funny.

Is Ligambi still the man?

How would Gene become a capo? Which crew would they give to him?

Also merlino is just fucking asking for the feds to be up his ass his whole life.. He's driving around a fucking buggati veyron now.. Does it get any fucking more flasy than that? Driving around a 2 million dollar car with no income? I would be driving a honda civic if I was him.. But really he is obsessed with his image, nothing but trouble can come from it. I feel bad for his 2 daughters, they're father is going to be doing life in the feds eventually. Just a matter of time. Sad.

Ya i think grande was made alongside mazzone and servido.

The article says Merlino will remain boss. Chickie has his choice of acting boss, underboss or consigliere.

I checked out that car online. All I can say is damn. The interior is more insane than the exterior. How can he drive around a car like that if he can't account for the income?

Who is protecting his butt?

I fucking hate Merlino. He's the flashest high profile mobster yet out of all the high profile mobsters, he has the least money making capabilities. Cult of personality is what he is. He has all these stupid old men funding his extravagant lifestyle. He is a charlatan and a simple minded bully.

Sonny was never made

If he is such a high profile idiot broke ass, then why is he home? when all the other bosses before him are dying in prison? why did he beat the government in court? maybe joey is dumb like a fox. Plus he has survived like 20 fucking hits, dude is a survivor, and in the right way, he is stand up, and he is a stone killer period.

Merlino most likely couldn't even afford to fill up a Buggati Veyron with gas. If he's driving one it more then likely belongs to one of his new mob groupie buddies down south. Or maybe his sugar daddy Stan Stein leased one for him. But i would bet Merlino on his own couldn't even afford the down deposit on a car like that.

You think Joey put up a dime for that restaurant? No Fucking way, he's gonna milk that place dry and eventually bust the place out. Those investors will be sorry they ever met Merlino before long.

Dsbaloo where did you read he had a Buggati Veyron?

lol yeah ok.

Thanks, my mistake, I kind of skimmed it an automatically saw 3 positions. I didn't read it close enough.

Someone who does 30 years for the family deserves more respect than a petty soldier, no?.....He went to jail ranked as a capo.
They may have to bump someone down in the name of respect.
Like how everyone is willing to make room for Chickie?

What will they do with him then? An Acting Associate? Street Associate?

I'll never understand these guys. 80 years old and he wants to go right back in. That's fucking nuts.

Dsbaloo where did you read he had a Buggati Veyron? [/quote]


Saw it parked in his garage.

this old dinosaur peter limone 82 in boston still leads the new England family after doing 30yrs frame job+ getting 25mill from the fbi he jumped rite back in he gets off probation in a couple months for some more mafia shit. his underboss Carmen big cheese gets out next month. think I read chickies wife is dead so all he got left is his mafia kids. wonder if scarfo would give his blessing. whats left for the guy, his money is probably all fucked up maybe he starts collecting his pension from the teamesters but he might have been doing that for acouple decades. million dollar question how longs he on parole or did he rap up and can mingle with anyone. sonny franses kept violateing parole for going near felons he probably would have been acting boss if he could have met with his troops all them years. but his sentence is different from the philly guys. seems like all the young scarfo guys who did them 40 45 yr sentences all mingle together so they must be off parole.

Hahahahahahah Your right Benny some delusional wannabe's with money are probably lose that money and Joey will probably invite them out to dinner meanwhile their houses are getting robbed of all their luxury items. If Merlino had the right machinery he'd probably steal your house

New Nicodeomo Trial dates...

http://www.courts.phila.gov/apps/criminal/namesearch.asp?search=NICODEMO,%20ANTHONY

there gonna do him like long john.

mackinblack your probably rite. merlino don't give a fuck. I would liketo drive a bogati or how you spell on someone elses dime. merlino for city council. no but how does a old guy like that respect the acting boss that blasted his son into outerspace. cant no way. see who hits who first. how do you sleep at nite as a father?

Patience is key. If he wants to move against someone like Joey Merlino, he'll want to take his time with it.

thats melino's skill, when it times to machine gun somebodys car on the freeway, he gets it done, period.

Great article Scott, this was one I was looking forward to once you mentioned it. I've been stating I wonder where Chickie will fit into things once he comes home. I thought that at most, he'd take another Captain position, so I'm surprised people are thinking that they're making a space for him in the administration. But it makes sense, the guy deserves it, did freaking 30+ years standing on his head. I'm also surprised to hear Ligambi is willing to step down, if Chickie wanted to be Consigliere, which I think is the most realistic scenario for Chickie & that current regime. But that also makes sense, Ligambi has seemed as if he's wanted to step away and live comfortably since his trials officially ended. As far as anyone not buying him being Consigliere, it makes sense, if Mazzone is now acting boss, and Johnny Chang is underboss, the last acting boss, who was rumored to be stepping down, it isn't a shock he might be Consigliere. Another thing I found interesting, is about Chickie advising Merlino & Mikey Chang to stop the shit and go under Stanfa. I had kind of had an idea that's what happened, but I remember someone mentioning on either this forum or the real deal board that instead, Chickie were advising them to continue to disobey Stanfa, and actually pitted Michael against his brother. I couldn't figure out for the life of me why he'd put his sons against each other, granted these guys kill for the "business", even their own relatives, but the Ciancaglini's were never known to be dysfunctional when Chickie was on the street according to informants like Leonetti, and he loved his sons and they loved him. But as I suspected it seems like neither he nor Johnny wished for Joey Jr. & Michael to go against each other, let alone kill and maim one another. I just find it really interesting that Ciancaglini was advising Merlino & Mikey to go under Stanfa, it shows how Chickie feels about the rules. Although I don't think Philly is on the edge of an all-out war, I do think things are brewing. Narducci and his guys are one thing, so are the Pungitore's, but with Chickie back on the street, it is interesting to question if he's still loyal to Scarfo. And we know how Nicky Scarfo feels about Joey Merlino. Not only that, but one has to wonder how Chickie must feel at the fact that apparently Merlino & Mikey disobeyed him, which led to the death of one son, and the other becoming disabled. He could blame Merlino for all of that, and I don't see son siding against dad, if dad decided to move against Merlino, though anything is possible in the criminal underworld. I do know one thing, he doesn't have to act immediately either, if Chickie does actually take Mazzone's place, and Mazzone willfully steps down, and Johnny Chang remains underboss, the power now lies with the Ciancaglini's, not Merlino.


Just my two cents.

A lot of speculation I agree it was a great article.. Chickie at 80 is not going to become THE ACTING BOSS and he prolly does not want it either.. he'll be involved some how mayb take Consig title hell be a Mentor and a damn good one for Merlino,Mazzone,and Johnny. Chickie and all the OLD Scarfo guys have no Loyalty to Scarfo ne more there prolly pissed because of how Scarfo was they had to do there 30 plus years.. Even though they have no Love for Joey Mazzone holding it together nothing will change.. and Finally theres prolly not going to be BLOODSHED but if there is when have u known Joey Merlino to back down... has possibilities of being more bloody then the STANFA war but in this day and age nothing will prolly happened not wit Stevie keeping the Peace.. Old Scarfo guys r content

Chickie becoming boss is highly unlikely, IMO. However Scott says he's been told by reliable people that Chickie wants to run Philly on a daily basis. I think Consigliere is the most realistic position for him, but him wanting the Acting Boss position is a possibility, him getting it is even a possibility. But I find it unlikely and it remains to be seen. And lets not fool ourselves thinking that the guys coming out now have no loyalty to Scarfo. Scarfo is out of the picture, loyalty doesn't mean kicking up to the guy and putting money on his books and paying for his appeal efforts or carrying out his orders. It simply means they share his view point in regards to the current regime, of what the life has become, and still respect the way he ran things. Some guys, Chickie would be a guy I'd bet on, may have different ideas about how to run the family. Not saying they'd be wise ideas, he's been in the can for over thirty years, but I see Chickie as being a guy who's views may but against those of the younger generation.

And nobody said anything about any blood being shed.

Call me crazy, but why exactly does chickie deserve a spot in the hierarchy? He's an 80 year old man that hasn't run a scam in 30 years. A hell of alot has changed since he's been away. It'll take him 2 months to figure out how to work the gas pump at wawa. I get that he did his time in standup fashion, but this talk of being given a top spot is laughable, and probably true at the same time. Things are run a little different than they were back in his day. And by a little I mean alot. Consigliere? This guy wasnt any good at keeping himself from nearly dying in jail, so lets let him advise the rest of the family on how to act. Sorry, but I don't get the logic in this.

I agree man and at that age how long do u think he'll be around?? And I know how everybody thinks Joey's Stupid I said it before ill say it again like when Ron Previte tried to get Joey on Tape to discuss Coke deals and Joey would not.. Just like Nicky Skins.. Joey has experience and knows wat to look out for in RATS.. and Im sure Joey got other smarts too.. but I think Chickie with his experience could be very knowledgeable on some future deals to advise Merlino little John Chang and Stevie Handsome.. Like for example guys I don't kno about this guy he seems like a snake or draws too much attention or hes hot or in my day that's where Chickie could be Handy... Or Joey gives this part to Narducci Narducci kicks this end up ect..

let me just clarify here: Im not saying Chickie def wants the acting boss job aka to run Philly on a daily basis. What im saying ive heard from some pretty reliable people that he's saying he might or at least he does wants back in on decision making in some capacity. I don't think anything is in stone. just spec, other than Chickie is telling people he doesn't want to retire

Scott

merry xmis board. so I guessing all those scarfo guys who got sentenced in 1988 or when they went to trial and got 45 years. the judge didn't give them supervise release or xlists of people they cant hang around with. cause the narducci guy is posing with felons innhis pics. also your rite after 30 yrs in prison usally you turn into a weirdo or really recluse. but not all. seems like the westside make you a capo when you turn 70ty underboss at 80 so philly should take a page. also think the judge thought no one of these guys would live out there sentences.

Michael & Joseph Ciancaglini were only half brothers according to this episode of The FBI Files.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x20wkdf_the-fbi-files-s07e03-the-great-philly-mob-war_shortfilms

Well that adds a bit of perspective.

Half brothers, they still share the same parent. And I think Chickie fathered them both. Either way, his sons turning on each other doesn't seem to be what he wanted.

Yea kinda wondered why two brothers, would go opposite ways.. especially in that game. Why did the one brother side with older stanfa.? that is where my dad said look at that brothers killing each other... you don't wanna be one of those guys.. there is only one family, and it aint the mob.. Merry Christmas

Stanfa made Joey Ciancaglini his underboss in an effort to appease Michael Ciancaglini & Joey Merlino, and to try to bring about peace, as a way of bringing them together by having a mutual link. Which goes to show that at some point Joey & Michael had to be allies, if Stanfa thought making Joey Jr his underboss would help keep Mikey & Merlino at bay. Under this arrangement is how Joey Merlino & Mikey Chang were made into the Philly Mob in the first place. That fell apart though, I don't know exactly why or how as that is for the large part still a mystery to me.

wasnt chickie the man before he ever went inside? Seemed like a real level guy.

its 7 am excuse the nonsensical post

Chickie was also well respected on the street before he ever went to prison, that's true BarrettM.

Chickie was very respected before he went away, people forget but he may have not been on the street more than a year during the Scarfo era. He originally got put away in 82 and this was after getting out from another stint of about 5-7 years, people forget that he was well established in the Bruno era. During his sentencing in 89 the prosecutor pointed out that Chickie had he not been behind bars for over a decade would have been boss.

Who was in his crew?

Yeah it was probably best he missed the scarfo years. I used to have a doc on my computer on the old Bruno captains. The captains in the family during bruno and scarfo eras were COMPLETELY different even though it was just a couple of years. That's not because they died off either, a lot of them simply faded away in to obscurity and scarfo phased in the guys he trusted. Chickie would have def been part of the makeup of the family under scarfo though because of the respect he had but he went to jail. Who all was in his crew?

the crew that tommy del and faffy took over was Chickies crew so you got tommy and faffy, nicky crow, charlie white, pat the cat spirito and ralph staino as an associate. There were others I just can't think of there names right now

What is really left for him to get in, small book and shy maybe.

Nice to see Ligambi make room for Chickie now but, who is going to be the one to step down in 2033, when Papa Bear comes home?

F Bocchino, T Ferrante, Funze Marconi, Guerino Marconi are a few more possibly..