Stevie Mazzone keeping the peace in S. Philly

Below is a link to a story I did on Philly LCN acting boss Stevie Mazzone and the role he's currently playing managing the city's different mob factions (Merlino, Narducci).

Let's discuss.

http://gangsterreport.com/mazzone-straw-stirs-drink-philly-mob-days/

thanks baldy

Very Interesting!! Interesting to c what happens in 2015. Especially When Joey Gets outta Jail and Finally Off Paper! The Most Entertaining Mob Family that's for sure!

looks like he's gotta get rid of borgesi

Good stuff once again, Scott. You never disappoint.

Great stuff Scott.

Scott, is Georgie off supervised? I think he was originally slated to get out with Joey in 2011. Would it make sense then, since he was not convicted of anything (after two trials), that his parole would expire in late 14 along when Joey's was supposed to?
He did 15 years, I would expect him to want something for his time. But then again, Johnny Chang has done a few bids for the family.

Thanks,

I wonder where Chickie Chang is going to stand when he's back on the street. He was buddies with Merlino Sr. and according to some advised his son to go against Stanfa, and very possibly his own son. But like Narducci, and as Leonetti said, a lot of those Scarfo guys look to Joey Merlino as nothing more than a punk and wannabe. I wonder if Chickie shares similar sentiments, or if he realizes that it's a different era, and that this is a young mans game. It'll be interesting to see what develops in the upcoming months.

Very interesting, good stuff. It must suck to be Mazzone right now. I've got a feeling that he looks at it as:"Whatever bad happens, it'll be my fault."

Any news on Nicodemo?? How about Dom Grande? Any of your sources comment on that? What's the boys think about that situation?

Based on Everything that's going on in Philly right now, common sense would tell the "Scarfo Faction" to wait a few months, til after the Nicodemo trial before they make a move. Why risk any shit if there's even a chance he flips and takes the "Merlino Faction" down with him.

Hopefully, this thread doesn't dissolve into an all-out heavy-weight battle of Scarfo vs. Merlino. Everyone one of these guys is very serious, very dangerous, etc. Just because the Scarfo guys did jail time it doesn't make them any more willing to kill first, question later. It may make them think twice.


Serpiente commented a week or two ago that Merlino sent word to keep the peace, and this article is all about that. A few people on this board have called that guy out but, I think he knows a little something.

Nicky, I think what you are saying is right on, I mean they have wasted 20 years of their lives behind bars what is waiting 6 more months and the niccodemo trial and see what the fall out from that is...niccodemo if probably someone who know where several bodies are buried

Thanks Merlino. It's a good article and all, for people who don't follow Philly too closely. But, it didn't have alot of substance or insider info.

I don't expect Scott Burnstein to reveal secrets, but I wish he could/would provide a little more.

Not to get off topic, but I wanna ask Scott to ask Philip Leonetti if He/his uncle Scarfo knew about the Bruno hit. From Leonetti's book, and a few other things I've read over the years, Bruno and Scarfo were on a collision course over Local 54. And Bruno knew that he had dissention in his ranks. He may not have known who was upset, because a few people were, but I wonder about it. Especially due to Scarfo's relationship with Manna.

God you'd think 4 or 5 documentaries and dozens of bodies (cousins, brothers) would convince them not to make a move at all. period. ever. period. Be happy that your life revolves around shaking people down for cash and not punching a time card like their grade school education warrants. So this faction of people that fuck citizens over for a living are mad at another faction of people-fuckers within their own family. What goes around comes around. Bide your time, earn, and maybe you'll get the top spot some time in the future. Then, good luck convincing a bunch of neanderthals about not losing their cool.

This is absurdly overblown.

That 'war' on the streets of Philly is about to break out is stupid sensationalism. A bunch of guys in their latter years after doing 20+ is about to put bodies on the streets for power is frankly laughable.

The only people believing this are the people who want to.

The only drama in the Philly mob is that of Nicodemo Rolling and sending the last vestiges of the current leadership on a permanent state ride.

Nicodemo and Grande are the ONLY Philly concerns.

Anything else is to quote poster Tommy Gambino, laughable.

And you and Tommy's knowledge is based on what exactly? What do you guys know you don't even live in the United States.

Look I don't have a problem with either of you, frankly, you two are good posters, but for you to try to get on here and say what Scott is reporting is bull shit is quite frankly laughable. I am not saying I believe everything scott writes but frankly, if it comes down to two guys from Australia and England and Scott I go with him.

All due respect...

Exactly Sonny, I'm no authority but I think Scott is a fraud, I could be wrong but I highly doubt it.

He has sources in every single family and law enforcement...A guy from Detroit? Nah, he's just reading between the lines and playing the guessing game for page views on his site imo.

The funny thing is 99% of the forum will believe it and take Scott's word as gospel, because it's the only remotely interesting thing going on and most people on here are mob fantasists.

Fair enough, but you live in a fantasy world if you think a small time mob reporter from Detroit knows the ins and outs of mob families across America.

LIke I said. I don't believe everything he writes.

That being said, I think its just as ridiculous to dismiss everything scott writes as it is to believe everything he writes.

Is there a full scale war coming in south philly? Of course not. But is there NO mob activity left either? Of course not.

Nobody once said that, why you bringing that up?

Hey tommy, what are you sources exactly? Been talking to the local chap at the pub? Maybe you guys discussed what an american italian might look like over fish and chips?

Ill take scotts reporting over this nonsense anyday.

Coming from another mob fantasist, this time it's Chicago with you.

I've never claimed to have sources, just came to a conclusion that it makes no sense that a small mob reporter from Detroit would know the ins and outs of families across America.

So I read joey was locked up in 1990 to middle of 92. Stanfa gave joey and the changs there button after the summer of 92. Joeys guys killed 2 made guys irish and Felix why after them hiys did stanfa let any of them guys in the family. He must have not known shit. And joey unmade at the time in jail was already having his guys start taking out some old timers. What the hell was stanfa doing inducting merlino and mike Chang. Who even proposed them to stanfa?

That is what you seem to imply. Saying there is no dissension in the mob implies there is no mob. There is dissension in every organization, legit or not. So if your telling me there is none in the south philly mafia, then you are telling me there is no mob in south philly.

Louie Irish was an associate. Felix Bocchino was taken out by the forces of evil during a WWF sanctioned LCN steel cage match. Super Fly Jimmy Snooka off the top rope. OH MY MEAN GENE OAKERLAND, HE AIN'T GETTIN UP FROM THAT.

Italian Forever: Where someone lives is almost literally irrelevant.

Unless a poster is a member, or works for the FBI, then EVERYTHING, EVERYBODY says is speculation. each as good as the next. Becuase you, Tommy, Scott or myself have EXACTLY as much knowledge as to the current state of the Philly Hirearchy as ANYBODY. The FBI and the Philly hirearchy (and possibly its button men) excluded.

So Australia, the UK, New York, Downtown Philly, Hell even Mazzone's next door neighbour of 25years are each working on exactly the same info.

So be careful throwing the 'location has weight' argument around because it's a thin one.

And at the end of the day Scott Burnstein is a DETROIT/CHICAGO poster. Now ask yourself, isnt it curious he has inside Philly info?

Because the Detroit LCN is as close to Philly LCN, as Tommy and I....



I think this is a very accurate summation.

I don't begrudge anyone for thinking what they want to think, honestly,I don't (even if they think I'm a "fraud" lol). But ill say this; Yes, I am a Detroit-based writer, however Ive also been published by major book companies regarding mafia activity in Chicago and Philly/NJ and I have developed some pretty good sources in those areas. The only other area I'm claiming sources from is NE, which I developed from FBI guys and a street guy or two introducing me and vouching for me with sources in Boston/Providence.

Just wanted to clarify how a "small-time writer from Detroit" could be shedding light on other city's mob activity.

Did you read the article? He has sources in the FBI that you hold in such high regard. Now, the validity of those sources can be debated. The reality of whether he can get sources in philly can be debated, but the fact that he has access to them is hard to debate. If you saw his Detroit doc, you will see he interviewed a few guys from the FBI detroit OC task force.

Like I said, I don't believe everything i read, but to dismiss immediately anything you read? A healthy amount of skepticism is alright, but when you dismiss anything you read from anyone, you just look like a sarcastic douchebag.

That being said Sonny, #illridewithyou

What an absurdly ignorant comment to make.

Whats yours?

More importantly, whats a Detroit reporters in Philly?

See now how your sarcasm looks stupid?

The problem being is that we're getting a 'scoup' about Philly, from Detroit.

Now whats more likely? A war is about to break out in Philly which only a reporter from Detroit has discovered?!? Or a reporter from Detroit has sensationalised an unknown for the sake of publicity?

Im sure those who can determine the answer, will.

PS: /me chuckles at the hashtag. Not directed to you at all IF, but I wouldnt ride with the fuckers. And not twice on Sundays...

Of course it matters where you are from. You are seriously bullshitting yourself if you believe some dude from england could possibly understand neighborhood life, growing up in chicago, new york, or jersey.

Then you and england boy got the balls to make ascine comments impugning the author's character on nothing more than a whim. There is no grand take down with factual allegations. Just "I think this is bullshit". Really productive. You really added to the conversation with your hipster bullshit.

You're completely discounting the large fringe that the street has, Sonny. It's not just members and associates. There are hangers-on and girlfriends and drinking buddies and wannabes, as well as a host of other types that come into peripheral contact with wiseguys every day of the week. And when you're a part of that fringe element, you're going to hear some things that you won't find on the Internet or in the newspapers. And you know I like you a lot, but it's not so cut and dry.

Now having said all that, Sonny and Tommy are both nice guys and quality posters. To pick fights with them because they aren't American is ludicrous. Christ Almighty, can't you guys ever sign on without looking for a fucking argument? Agree to disagree already .

The fact that George Anastasia is my mentor has helped a lot in the Philly LCN source dept (i.e he introduced me to many of my sources there)

Pizza. I made it clear I wasn't looking for an argument. My initial post I said i respect both these guys. But I had to put it on record that I don't like their consistent dismissal of any writer claiming to have sources.

Sonny, I am glad you aren't buying that horseshit with the hash tag. That type of political correct horseshit disgusts me.

Also, I wouldn't say I reported that Philly is about to breakout into a war, but the opposite - the gist of the article is that Stevie Mazzone and his leadership is preventing potential bloodshed


The quote at the end is someone speculating that it will be hard to keep everyone happy, not necc that a war is imminent

You know what I love about this quote?

Check out Little Nicky's 'Location': Midwest.

Now LN, I think you just got caught with your foot in your mouth.

And if that doesnt wok for you LN, tell me again how a Detroit 'neighbourhood' guy knows about the ins-n-outs of top end Philly?

See? England geographically means as much to Philly, as Detroit.

Or maybe even the Midwest.....

It's probably based in truth but embellished. The article didn't say war was imminent.

Right, there are no italians from the midwest. Growing up in detroit's or chicago's italian community would give the exact same amount of insight as being a fucking limey.

Answer my last post substantively. Thats right. You can't contribute to this thread anymore than making hipster contrarian comments.

PB, I Love you like a brother but every time a fringe element tells me what time it is, Im going to check my watch.

And every time anyone on the 'periphery' tells a detroit reporter, or me, or you, even Little Nicky, about the movements of the Philly admin... I'll excuse myself.

Because what we're talking about here is high end speculation.

And we can all flip a coin....

And I'd like to note that PB is the ONE poster on here who's deserved respect simply on his word.

Except it isn't just the periphery. He has sources in the FBI. Watch his doc on detroit, he sits down with the former head of the Detroit LCN task force. You really think some "small town" writer would be able to sit down with a high level federal agent? Come on sonny, you're smarter than that.

Ok you asked for it. Youre an idiot.

You made a statement that the location of the poster was highly relevant, and as such Tommy and I's statements (based on our location) were nullified. Then it was pointed out that you live in butt-fuck Idaho as well.

Ipso-facto upon your logic, your statements mean fuck all as well.



...According to your logic, thanking you kindly

Its just that I question a reporter from Detroit having the 'scoup' about Philly that I distrust IF.

Because there are alot of ears listening to Philly IF, and I'll take one from Detroit with a pinch of salt, especially concerning a 'scoup'.

I dont think thats too much to ask eh?

I didn't realize that illinois had no italians and was in the middle of Idaho.

Seriously- do you have real reasons for doubting scott beyond your own pathological need to be cool and contrary to the mainstream? If so, go burn your fucking bra rather than fill up this thread with your garbage.

Sonny just got a three week suspension for flaming. Happy New Year.

Behave yourself, LittleNicky.

There's a few of us still left.

Sonny are you from the US? I'm asking that because your comment about the Midwest made little sense. Illinois is the Midwest and Chicago has the #3 population of Italians in the country. Not to mention cities like Detroit, St Louis, and Cleveland having sizable populations.

And I don't understand why Scott has always gotten so much hate on these boards. He's always been respectable and has generated much info and discussion.

Heard Ron Previte is running things out there? Lmao

AMEN, Nickyeyes

just in case you guys didn't notice I chimed in earlier in this thread re. my sources

Jesus this thread is exausting to read.

@tommygambino- i dont have anything against people from england, well except the obvious. But dont you think its ridicoulous that you think you can just throw shit out there like "thats a no no to cefalu", come on man(thats just one example). Btw seeing that scott has wrote a book with george anastasia can you really not connect the dots how he might have contacts in philly. I could go on and on but why bother.

I have never once claimed to know what it's like growing up in those areas!?

BTW, nobody says 'chaps' over here

Great read, Scottburn I'm interested to know regarding Borgesi where he stands amongst the Scarfo crew? I know he grew up around them just like Merlino but I seem to recall him being more accepted and more of a legitimate part of the Philly mob than Merlino was back in the 80s, even got pinched on gambling charges with them. I would be interested to know if perhaps if Borgesi has a beef with the Chang and Mazzone faction if perhaps he and the Narducci faction side with each other.

My source for that is probably the best poster on the board, two situations notably that spring to mind that he told me about is where I got my basis for that statement I made about Cefalu.

So it's okay for you to say stuff like that, because you're from Jersey?

What could you possibly have against the English?

Your right i probably shouldnt have said anything, but just thought it was outta line to call scott an outright fraud, even in the most heated detroit threads ive never seen anyone do that.

As far as england goes youll have to excuse me i used to be an irishmen. Good day sir, or is it nighttime there? I dont no, i really dont understand how timezones work....

This is brutally exhausting. Nothing after Scott's initial post, NOTHING, has added any substance to this thread. INCLUDING ME.

If you are smart enough to use the google function and read other Philly threads on here, you can glean exactly what Burnstein wrote in his article. Like I said earlier in this thread, his article is good for people who don't closely follow Philly. For those of us who do, we should have some respect for Scott's efforts and chalk it up to him confirming our suspicions.

For those on this board who have a passing interest in Philly, please respect the fact that Burnstein wrote a book with someone who was attached at the hip to one of the heaviest people in Philly history. Like him or not, Philip Leonetti was the real deal. If you were around Philly/SJ in the 80's, you know that for sure.

The bottom of Scott's first post on this thread says "let's discuss". So, spare the board your opinions on who knows what, who's a fanboy, who's a dum dum, and add something of substance. Otherwise, let it go.


And for the record, I wish Scott Burnstein would use his resources to provide more info. Maybe he knows more, maybe he doesn't. But challenging his credibility isn't going to make him more willing to provide info.

This article didn't really say anything that crazy, it seemed like the most educated guess one could have regrading the Philly administration.

Great article Scott! Enjoyed reading it, keep up the good work.

It's sad that we have an actual author on this forum that is willing to dedicate some of his time towards us and the best thing some of us can do is start a fourth grade pissing contest. Have some CLASS gentlemen.

Good post from NickyWhip. But nobody listens. This is not like the other boards where there are entire sections created for the sole purpose of insulting each other. It's almost like some of you guys won't be happy until SC suspends everyone and locks every thread. Because just for the record, there's no badge of honor for speaking your mind and then bragging that you got thrown off the board.

When you get suspended for refusing to let something go, after you've been warned repeatedly, you have no one to blame but yourself. If you want to succeed in life you have to learn how to let other people be "right," even when you know they're wrong. At the very least you have to learn how to agree to disagree here. Because in case you haven't noticed, people are getting suspended here in droves lately.

Regarding Scott being from Detroit, didn't he say his mentor was Anastasia? That guy is pretty plugged in, no?

It would be ideal for this board to have more folks with "inside knowledge" and every once in a while have a "ask me anything" session. Probably not possible, just an idea.

@ Pizza; Check you pm

You guys are destroying this thread with this scott nonsense, get back on topic, if you have a problem with the tread then don't post

I'd like to know what the 2 factions are fighting over? Is there still a nice loansharking business going on there with gambling or have they gotten into more white collar crimes. Not sure if any of you have been to the philly casinos, but 2 of them don't totally have the old s philly population going in there, the one in bensalem probably a little more and there are tons of degenerates in there at craps or poker or the horses

Well put. Moving on . . . .

It'll be interesting to see what happens to Georgie if he keeps running his mouth. I may have missed this in the article, but if he is unhappy with his position, why not side with the Scarfo faction?

I'm just gonna say my peace and get back to thread. As I've always said, Scott is a published author, he's released numerous mob-related pieces of literature, some of them are best selling. He's known amongst this "online LCN community" as a straight shooter, if you've seen his Detroit doc, you'll know he has sources in the FBI and guys from the street, who may not have been made guys or hitmen, but were definite associates, that part can't be disputed, regardless of what some guy from Nottingham, England and his sidekick says about. Now whether his sources are 100% correct in what they tell him, that can be debated, however that isn't an issue with Scott, himself. The best he can do is hear this information and cross reference it with others and write about, if all the information and reference's add up. Which is what he does.


And I find it hilarious how people are quick to write him off, but say things that aren't true to defend their viewpoint. Like Scott being from Detroit and "having a source in every crime family"...The guys only written about Philly, Detroit, Chicago, NE, & parts of NJ, in large. Not EVERY Crime Family. We know he has sources, but the guys who rag on him, can't name one source for any of the information they post, you ask why or how they know that whatever an article may mention is wrong and who told them, you're met with some stupid response like "I'm not a rat, I'm no stool pigeon, I ain't droppin' dimes on nobody"...Like, get real people. If you don't like what Scott is saying and writing about, you don't have to read it or post in his threads. It's that simple. Make your own, show us the certain knowledge you possess of all things Cosa Nostra in America, and put us straight.


Anyways, the Borgesi information has been circulating George Anastasia's site for about a year or so. It's known that Narducci's faction and the some of the Scarfo guys who aren't with him like the Pungitore's, don't necessarily show the utmost respect to Joey Merlino. And according to many, Borgesi isn't very liked period within the Philadelphia underworld, so switching factions may do him a lot more harm then good. It seems like he's the type of guy who just rubs everyone he meets the wrong way.

Interesting article.

Boooooo!!!!!......No action these days!

When they write mafia history books about the era of 2000-2020, they are gonna be the most boring books EVER!

In the good old days, or should I say, bad old days, there were weekly whackings! No fun no more :o(
How do they let people earn their button if there is no one to kill?
I say, let Little Nicky out of the can and lets see if we can make things interesting again!

Only Kidding! People not dying is a very good thing for society, just bad for people who look for hot stories on message boards.

Maybe the word is for no gun play until Joey gets out in 4 months?
If so, that means I have to save my bag of popcorn and raisenets till he gets out.

I enjoyed the shit out of Mafia Prince,which I believe this Scott Burnstein was the author.I would have to think that his being a friend of Anastasia ans him sitting down with Leonetti he has a ton to offer on the Philly mob.I very much believe that there is a good chance that if these factions are at odds that you could see a body or two on the street.I mean who would have ever thought the alleged Nicodemo hit would have happened around Christmas time in broad daylight just a couple years ago.

I think we're actually talking 3 factions, Merlino-Mazzone and two Scarfo-era factions - Nardudcci, who I'm being told is no longer hanging at Encore Nightclub do to a falling out with his nephew, and another with the Pungitores

factions aside

how many recognized crews do they have these days? it used to be 3 right?
s. philly, s. jersey, n. jersey
or maybe philly had 2

I was kind of wondering that myself. You hear all the time what most of the Scarfo guys thought of Joey but I don't think I read anything regarding what their thoughts on Georgie is

What's the issue with The Pungitore's and the Narducci's? No way it's still from Salvie and Chickie, is it?

I can't remember who said it on here but they said Joey Punge is legit in real estate and that Anthony Pung is still involved, don't know how true it is.

Thought Scott's article stated they were under Narducci? Not a seperate crew.

it's probably difficult splitting 20lbs of mid-grade weed witih 20 guys

that's good one cook. like the 28 guys in the outfit splitting a ounce of coke, a gram each.

Lmao. And Pmac for the win!

lol imagine those 80 year old dynosaurs cooking it into crack to turn a profit lol.

Nice article Scott and thanks for sharing this information

Don't let the posters that ruined this thread shy you away from posting more, non NY/NJ stuff is always interesting to me. Especially the Philly crew as I have seen some of their guys up by me.

chicago metropolitan area has damn near 5 million people

south philly is dirty and they all live on top of each other

plus they smoke meth (nicodemo hit)

I'm sure they aren't buried there anymore .

I think he was speaking metaphorically.

PB why don't you show up as one of the top posters?

And what the south side of Chicago must look like heaven..? come onnn man.. the Mexican and vietnamise can frame houses and do concrete... their building up.. And we brick veneer houses down there.. Oh and the carpenters gut and reframe the inside.. their are a lot of nice expensive units down there...Rent as much as a mortgage in the burbs... Fact.. lots of yuppies moving in.. Use Zillow house finder.. you can Zillow any property in all 50 states and get an apx price...south philly property is more $$ the the south side of Chicago.. Now bak 2 topic. they are dealing with weed money and a few deadbeat gamblers.. Ac don't exist any more.. they cant mess with down there... plus the casinos anit makin any money anyway.. And yea I was right,2 vegas mike I only said joey better not play games he aint the only one around... there are independent people and 2 other fractions maybe.. pungitorie / narducci..