Who is the biggest cheese in NY, at the moment?

I know that law enforcement has crippled all the families in the past 2-3 decades but, I also know that the 5 families will probably never die (at least not in my lifetime). As long as money can be made illegally, the mob will exist!
The next wave of guys will have to be a lot smarter and craftier, given the age of technology.

Was thinking about this the other day!...If Joe Pistone tried that stuff today, he, and his family would be dead already....All Lefty had to do was go to his local spy store and slap 1 of those tracking devices, behind his bumper and, he would have seen him going to his NJ home, with his wife and kids.....Problem solved, rat eliminated!


Back to topic:
Is Liborio Bellomo the biggest name on the block?
Have heard his name a lot.

Also, I don't mean the biggest name that is still alive, ex: Amuso, Persico........I mean guys who are on the street, still controlling things.

I'm going to guess Crea.

Bellomo , muscarella , cefalu , Cali and crea

First of all, Pistone wasn't a rat. He was an agent. And they'd be even less likely to kill him today than they were forty years ago. They've cut back on killing people for a reason. And that was overblown even back then. Because except for Lefty running his mouth in prison, they were never going to hit an agent. This isn't Sicily. Pistone running around with those silly sunglasses today is absurd. He's a shameless self-promoter. You think they wen't after the mob with a vengeance during Gotti's reign? If the mob ever hit a Fed the indictments would still be coming.

I do agree that it's a lot more difficult to put an agent undercover today. But it's not impossible. The technology that you're referring to was there ten years ago and the Feds still managed to slip an agent into Patsy's Bronx crew (but granted, it was at a much lower level than the Pistone-Bonanno undercover op). And I promise you that Patsy is a very cautious man. But at the end of the day, these guys have to earn. And to earn you have to work with people.

As far as the original question goes, there isn't a "single biggest cheese" for the simple reason that most decisions are made by a panel today. But as far as the Genovese go, Barney has reigned it in quite a bit since his wife died, QD almost never leaves the house, and Ernie has turned a lot of his day to day over to the kid. But the posters here are on the right track when they mention the guys on the Westside panel, along with Stevie and Cefalu.

this is from 10 years ago but the west side is sneaky. when they killed the capo of the springfield crew they had soldiers believing artie nigro was the acting boss, when I believe the leo the lion guy was. maybe they have different bosses for boros states ect. turncoat soldier said he wen to the Bronx with paper work to artie who had him bring it to a table of guys who made the judgement Bruno had to go. and if you want a good read think its the nj.com write up on angelo prisco and his wired on driver talking about Daniel leo was sneaky, might clip him might promote him but if he had it his way barney would be boss. seems like the lawyer pete peluso thought barney with chins blessing would be boss but something didn't go right probably all that jail time and leo was boss. whts leo today 72, he had a nephew in his last indictment. so I guessing leo if still active, but strong to cefulo. the gambinos were shaking down nascar in the 21 century. I now we talk a lot about crea but someone put a recent mugshot of him up and at 67 he looks like sonny fransese, no worse.

Exactly, the order came down from big paul himself, nobody touched Agent Pistone.

An undercover agent would never reach the hights of Joe Pistone today, you have to know somebody in order to get in contact with anybody, and the amount of made members willing to 'vouch' for someone is probably harder to find, as they are being more careful. Everyone learns from their mistakes. - and the Mob has only shrunk with 10-20 made members or so for each of the NY families. There have been an estimated 8-9000 made members through history, and all the American rats put togheter, you'll have a number of 114 estimate (thanks to IvyLeague for providing a previous thread where off he listed each and every rat/although he says it might need an update)

and the 114 number is from the 50s, 60s and up. They earn more money than before, because they've moved into more white-collar crimes. They even run schemes on Wall street and they have a huge cash flow from Internet porn and Internet related schemes - Not only the arabs are trying to give you a million bucks and there's always a sucker who falls for anything.

Gambling rackets have probably shrunk but they're still there, and you've had (or have) a better economy the last years, so people spend more money.

People say that the traditional Mob will end due to the young guys. The Youngsters change the traditions although they probably try to keep it, however, I call it evolution. People said the exact same thing in the 80s I imagine. Guys from the 20s era complained about the guys from the 60s era and their traditions have always changed with time. In 30 years I imagine the biggest family have an estimated 120 inducted members, if not more - not that many guys are squeeling, the number of agents trying to take them down has been reduced and Mob wars are ''forbidden.'' In 2050, they'll go around complaining about how they don't make the kids ''like they made them in 2000.'' Remember, the youngsters will become the old guys one time or another.

To answere your question, I think that the most influental gangsters are Frankie Cali and Cefalu, if not Daniel Leo. If you're thinking street guy, I'd say Charles 'Chuckie' Tuzzo, great friend of Bellomo, they were indicted togheter after working on some sort of pump and dump stock scheme. Also Frank Cali is active on the streets, I think they're gonna nail him on RICO pretty soon if he don't move to sicily

Joey Sneakers Cacciopoli is definetely the biggest name in queens, and Big John Castelle carries the largest amount of respect and fear in Bensonhurst. Castelle is a real street guy, he reminds me off Sonny Black Napolitano, if you look beyond the facts..

I never heard of a Joey Sneakers don't you mean Tommy "Sneakers" Caccioppoli and he was arrested in the Jack Falcone case. He was the agent who infiltated Greg DePalma's crew.

This post was pretty confusing...

Who is Joey Sneakers?

Do you mean Tommy sneakers?

Yes I meant Tommy Sneakers, I got it mixed up.

Cacciopoli biggest in Queens? lol

Queens is what 2 million. People. That's what I don't understand some people thought Vito was a super power but in NYC you Got bosses who have crew in every boro and out of state. I don't think there a boss in queens rite now other then amuso home but shit if the guy tommy sneakers is the most powerful capo in queens that's huge. He was a gotti guy I believe. Who does anyone think is the most powerful in name influence on Staten island. Does mob wives dad t.g. get his respect back. Or its probably some low key guy. Cop said on Staten island 1 out of 5 people are some how connected.

They were never indicted on a pump and dump together. If you're going to continue to use Wikipedia to fuel your fantasies, you should check the bottom of the page for links to press releases and verifiable sources. That indictment was about the waterfront, where Chucky has spent half his life.


He's more active in his fruit business and various other white collar endeavors than he is in any of the day to day street operations (like gambling and shy).


I think you meant Tommy Sneakers. I guess that's an honest mistake. But when it comes to Queens, he's not even the strongest guy in his own family.


More bullshit. John's a very serious guy. But the Lucchese influence in Brooklyn isn't anywhere near that of the other families. It's been that way since the power shifted back to the old Harlem and Bronx guys. Hell, the Colombos carry more weight in Brooklyn today.

I know that you think I'm picking on you, but I told you in the other thread that if you post bullshit on this site that you're going to be called on it. There are some VERY knowledgeable posters here. Some are just researchers, a few have lived among these guys in real life. The point is, you're not going to be able to post nonsense here and expect to get away with it.

Now welcome to the boards. Again. But go easy. There's nothing for you to prove here. Just enjoy the site .

The kid couldn't find Brooklyn if he was on Myrtle

Who's Myrtle?

Ouch? I read the thread and did my own research in order to help/share, I could hardly be wrong on every fucking thing I ain't studied this hard in school even, jeez.

No offense PB, but you old guys -- I know why they got rid of the Mustache Pete's that's all I'm saying, haha.

Like I said, buddy. I'm not looking to pick on you. You can ask anyone here about me. I don't go in for arguing with people or piling on when a guy makes a mistake. You seem like a nice kid. I'm just trying avoid having you go down the same road that a lot of other young guys have gone down in the past on this board. That's all. You can message me anytime you want .

How d'you know? I'd like to know is all, seeing that wikipedia isn't reliable. And I know guys, even they say Cali is active on the streets, now I know you said you from the Bronx, but my ''resourcers'' or whatever's from Brooklyn, where he operates alongside Jersey and sicily or wherever the fuck.




Tommy Cacciopoli carries a lot of weight, he runs through queens like a busssaw, least that's what I'hear. He might not be the top dog in the fucking Gambino famil but in Queens, or at least his territory and a couple of miles beyond he's a guy to be reckoned with, that's all I'm saying.



I don't like posting personal stuff because I get so extremely fucking agitated and angry when someone who don't even know who I am is sitting behind a fucking computer desk and calling Bullshit, but I actually, honest to fucking god meet Big John. I might be wrong on that indictment thing but I know for a fact, that even though Harlem and Bronx have some power or what ever, I ain't denying nothing, but Castelle has a grip around Brooklyn and all of his crew like you wouldn't fucking believe. I respected him and he's a joker, good guy. But I feel most of anybodys information here roots from different sites and so on. Almost everything can be called bullshit if you ain't known, that's all I'm saying.

Thank you for welcoming me, I hope we'll agree on something or at least don't grow to hate each other, you seem well liked and respected, I should respect you and my apologizes if I seem rude in any way, but I've gots to stand by mine at some point.

Yeah' I'll agree I might have been wrong at some point, thanks for the update and what not, I'm hear to learn not give myself head aches and constantly arguing, I've got my boss for that.

If you act like an asshole you'll get yourself banned long before you have a chance to hate me. I promise you that.

I'm not going to reply to your other post. I already said my piece about Castelle and the Brooklyn Luccheses and Tommy and Frank.

Now let's just move on .

I didn't see this post before I replied to the other. But that's fine. Like I said, let's just move on.

Act like an asshole? what I say? We're here to discuss and argue, who the fuck knows what the fuck is true or not, only truth is is that we're all doozy scumbags sitting here talking make-belief, and I feel like - honestly, the ones who's been here a long time seems to always be right nomatter if he's wrong or might be wrong. Please don't try to fucking undercut me, calling me an asshole and then tell me to move on, that's the description of an asshole. Just please, remember that the next time you see a new kid on the block, your first impressions are as shitty as a random gloryhole in a public bathroom.

I quoted the wrong fucking post but who even gives a flying fuck, you know what I mean

Johnny,i don't know you and i am not siding with anybody but don't get so aggrevated.PB didn't really call you a asshole but in general.By the way everybody CAN get banned if we act lime jerks.If u wanna take my advice,and i've been here for a while,i would listen to PB.Just a thought,take it or leave it.
Alex.

That's exactly right. I was speaking in general terms. It wasn't personal. My point was that troublemakers never last here.

As for the rest of his rant, like I said, let's just move on before the mods grab hold of this.

A'ight... everyone take a deep breath. Now exhale.

Whoa.... someone needs some Listerine!!

Keep the peace, guys.

Thanks, SC .


I know. Such language .


It's Christmas. Give peace a chance .

Hard to say, but the three families that are in good shape right now are the Gambinos, Genevese, and Lucchese crime families. On the most Queens question, I would say the Bonanno's are the strongest in that part of New York, with Asaro and Rabito running things since the Genovese's Federici's crew that operates in Queens has had some setbacks, as well as Ianniello having legal problems of his own. Second to the Bonanno's, I would say Teddy Persico still has a lot of pull in Queens. Caccipoli is a Gambino Capo in Queens, but he really is not that strong in Queens as many believe. Luccheses seems to stick to Manhattan, Bronx, Brooklyn, Staten Island and New Jersey for their operations.

Trucchio crew is the real money machine in Queens.

He, Trucchio, may have gotten knocked down

I know for Monk, I didn't mean he was captain of it now but its known as the Trucchio crew been in the family for a while

I think Tommy's point was that Al's crew was the predominant Queens crew before he went away.

I heard she´s good looking.

Correct, mate.

I ain't so dumb .

It would be tough to figure how many made guys there have been in the American LCN from the beginning to the present. You see the 5,000 figure for it's peak get thrown around a lot but, if you look at the supposed max membership of each family individually and then add it up, it's closer to half that. Currently there are approximately 1,000 made members remaining.

The list I gave you of 114 guys is, of course, known members who have flipped over the years. Most of them over the past few decades (which gives the false impression that "everyone" is flipping now) but some were guys who were giving info to law enforcement way back in the day. Obviously one would have to assume there have been many others like that throughout the years that were never discovered.



Obviously he's referring to this indictment. Bellomo (who had been indicted in the case previously for conspiracy to embezzle union funds) and Tuzzo are both in it but it was Thomas Cafaro and Ernie Muscarella who were charged with stock fraud.

http://www.ipsn.org/characters/gigante/2002jan23.htm

My mistake Tommy, also aren't Paradiso and Masteangelo also out of Queens?

Paradiso got shelved a while ago, Mastrangelo just got out the other month I think, don't know much about him. Gambino's are by far the strongest in Queens.

From a $ and possibly power standpoint , I would guess it's whoever bankrolled

Cava C and Parkside C

I don't know who really owns them but whoever does is making millions a year . I have my strong suspicions but won't speculate here

Anyway construction overall and garbage and garbage ancillary in NJ still have a lot of CN exposure . Everyone still sleeps on JC but I wouldn't , it's way to corrupt , no one cares as long as jobs from manhatten are flowing over .

Cava Construction's mob ties are well known. Not sure about Parkside. But they have done work on the same projects.

interesting note on cava and parkside, is it safe to assume these are the construction companies with the biggest CN connections?

Biggest is a relative term. You could be a big company connected to a mid-level wiseguy, or a small company connected to a heavyweight. For example, Crea has points in a dozen different companies. Who's to say which one has the biggest connection?

Quick question I ment with and had lunch with vito alberti. Is he really a bad guy? Cause he seemed like such a great dude!

Castelle is a wash woman. And I still think Conte is going to have a part in taking the power back to Bklyn. PS hello fellas it's been a minute👋

peter aka one eyed pete aka retard gotti ftw.