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Who the heck is "Tutti" Franzese of Colombos?

Posted By: ItalianIrishMix

Who the heck is "Tutti" Franzese of Colombos? - 10/20/14 05:33 PM

I have seen this name 2 times. Once for the person that told Massino that the 3 capos were loading up with weapons and, the other time about a murder.

Is this Sonny Franzese's other nickname?
Or a totally different person?

Searches turn up nada
Posted By: Giacomo_Vacari

Re: Who the heck is "Tutti" Franzese of Colombos? - 10/20/14 06:17 PM

"Tutti" Franzese is Carmine Franzese Jnr. A nephew to John and cousin to Michael. I don't think he was ever above the rank of soldier, but someone might know more about him.
Posted By: ItalianIrishMix

Re: Who the heck is "Tutti" Franzese of Colombos? - 10/20/14 07:02 PM

Wait but is John "Sonny" Franzese's fathers name, Carmine"The Lion"Franzese ?

Wouldn't that make him Sonny's brother?

See the problems that arise with this Jr. Sr. stuff?

In 30 years when someone goes to research George Foreman, then are gonna put a bullet in their head.
Posted By: Alfa Romeo

Re: Who the heck is "Tutti" Franzese of Colombos? - 10/20/14 11:58 PM

I thought Tutti the Lion was Sonny Franzese's father.
Posted By: mulberry

Re: Who the heck is "Tutti" Franzese of Colombos? - 10/21/14 06:44 PM

Originally Posted By: Alfa_Romeo
I thought Tutti the Lion was Sonny Franzese's father.


I doubt the Tutti that did the hit in the 1970's was Sonny's father. He would have been over 80 years old
Posted By: pmac

Re: Who the heck is "Tutti" Franzese of Colombos? - 10/21/14 07:03 PM

read he was a Colombo and was really tight with massino, theres some pics of him on here. but I don't think he sonny kids cause Michael f gave a million interviews and mentions everyone but him, including his mom dad sister brother with the hiv ect.
Posted By: HairyKnuckles

Re: Who the heck is "Tutti" Franzese of Colombos? - 10/22/14 03:11 AM

Carmine "Tutti" Franzese was the son of Sonny and a made member of the Colombo Family who died in 1991. Sonny´s father was also named Carmine, died in the 1950s or 1960s.
Posted By: ItalianIrishMix

Re: Who the heck is "Tutti" Franzese of Colombos? - 10/22/14 02:40 PM

Thanks HairyKnuckles.....Hmmmm! I seriously wonder if he died from natural cause OR did his dad not go to bat with him just like Michael said when Junior called him to the carpet.

Could be why not much known about him on the net. His dad maybe kept it real quiet and knew he had to follow the rules.
Posted By: HairyKnuckles

Re: Who the heck is "Tutti" Franzese of Colombos? - 10/22/14 02:54 PM

Sorry guys for the misinformation. Carmine "Tutti" was a brother of Sonny, not his son. My bad.
Posted By: ItalianIrishMix

Re: Who the heck is "Tutti" Franzese of Colombos? - 10/22/14 06:29 PM

Thank you HK!

I will go with natural causes then.
Posted By: Christy_Tic

Re: Who the heck is "Tutti" Franzese of Colombos? - 10/22/14 06:45 PM

Everything I've heard is tutti franzese I sonnys nephew not brother. He is about 15 yrs younger and was a Colombo soldier and associate of joey massino
Posted By: HairyKnuckles

Re: Who the heck is "Tutti" Franzese of Colombos? - 10/23/14 03:43 AM

Originally Posted By: Christy_Tic
Everything I've heard is tutti franzese I sonnys nephew not brother. He is about 15 yrs younger and was a Colombo soldier and associate of joey massino


Could be. It´s getting confusing. An article I read yesterday says he was his brother. But the article is old (dated in 1971). One thing for sure though..."Tutti" could not have been his son, he was only 13 years younger than Sonny.
Posted By: Giacomo_Vacari

Re: Who the heck is "Tutti" Franzese of Colombos? - 10/23/14 09:04 PM

"Tutti" Franzese Jr. is actually Carmine Franzese III, he is a grandson of Carmine "Tutti the Lion" Franzese Snr and son of Carmine Franzese Jnr. I thought he was Louis son but no. The lion had six sons with John Franzese being the last one born. There are a lot of Carmine Franzese during the 70's and 80's. Tutti the Lion passed away sometime in the late 1950's or early 1960's.
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: Who the heck is "Tutti" Franzese of Colombos? - 10/26/14 07:33 PM

http://books.google.ie/books?id=0ZygQJNY...nte&f=false

Mentioned on Page 137 of this book preview.
Posted By: Alfa Romeo

Re: Who the heck is "Tutti" Franzese of Colombos? - 11/06/14 02:48 AM

I don't know about Tutti, but John Franzese's father's nickname appears to have been "Tudie" as in "Tudie the Lion".

Quote:
FRANZESE-CARMINE Snr. 1881 Naples, Italy / USA 1898.
Alias : - Tudie the Lion.
Relations : - John [Son], Michael [G/Son].
Another possible member, never listed on “official” charts, but mentioned in the book The Crime Confederation as a member. Born in Palma, Campania [near Naples] in 1881, he was an early arrival in US. In 1919 his son John, a future Profaci Capo, was born on a visit back to Italy. He appears to have been connected to the early Camorra organisation in Brooklyn. In 1926 he was a visitor to condemned Camorra killer Antonio Paretti in the death cell. Amongst other visitors were Vito Genovese and Frank Amato, fellow Queens residents of Neapolitan origin, and future leaders of Cosa Nostra Families. The next sighting we have of him is in the 1930’s, when he was questioned in the 1934 Bocchia murder. This case involved Genovese, and several of his Neapolitan associates, and Joseph Profaci. All these connections to the Genovese faction may point to him being a member of that Family. On his WW2 Registration card he claims to own a business, which could be a Bar, as on the 1940 Census he is listed as a bartender. He made several trips to Italy, the last one being in 1952. We have no record of his criminal activities or his DOD.


From:Tudie the Lion
Posted By: ItalianIrishMix

Re: Who the heck is "Tutti" Franzese of Colombos? - 11/06/14 07:54 AM

I am SOOOO confused now!


Two nicknames? That isn't allowed. Luciano clearly set that rule on page 3.
Posted By: ItalianIrishMix

Re: Who the heck is "Tutti" Franzese of Colombos? - 06/26/15 12:54 AM

I feel kind of weird answering my own post but I figured, what the heck..........I stumbled upon a photo of Carmine "Tutti" Franzese which was I believe Michael's cousin with the same name as his own father..I am almost positive that I read that this was the guy that alerted Joe Massino that Sonny Red was loading up.....Here is a photo of him in that huge bulletin board that law enforcement put together that I also was looking for a long time.......The second family is the Colombo's and he is 3/4's of the way down, the 1st guy in that row......Only problem is in order for the names under the photos to be readable, I couldn't reduce the quality.....So when you zoom in, you can actually make out 90% of the names.

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