Which Hit Bigger, Galante Or Anastasia?

In the great scheme of things LCN, which hit you think had bigger ramifications on LCN, Galante's or Anastasia's?

I think both hits had equal ramifications , the Anastasia hit brough the mob along with apalachin into the public eye and the galante murder caused severe ramifications for the bonnano family internally and of course the commission later on . Both hits must be the most photographed and well known in mob history , possibly along with the pics of castellano lying dead outside sparks

I'd have to go with Anastasia's. all the re-shuffling aside, his death ultimately resulted in the retirement of Costello, the ascension of Gambino and Genovese and was a major reason for the meeting in Apalachin. Im also pretty sure I forgetting a lot more

Unquestionably, it was the Anastasia hit. Galante wasn't even viewed/recognized as a boss of the Bonanno family..he was just sticking his chest out while Rastelli was in the can...his days were always numbered from the second he got of prison in '74. He was a psychopathic loud mouth that not even his own zips could tolerate. Even the church wouldn't bury the sob.

I would have to agree with you both that the Anastasia hit was bigger in terms of everything that followed after it.

Galante hit was too a big hit but like Old said, he wasn't even recognized as boss of the Bonanno family.

I'm sure Carmine would have been happy that all mainstream news and publications named him as a boss, people still think of him as a boss over 35 years later and even people with a passing interest in the mob know him or know of that picture while only hardcore mob enthusiasts know anything about Rastelli.

The man died aged 69, on top of his game and with an almost (if not) instantaneous death.

For all the negativity surrounding him, the family fell apart from infighting in the immediate aftermath of his assassination, Rastelli was close to senility and would die not long after and his successor Massino would go on to become first bonafide boss to rat.

Should of kept Carmine alive if you ask me. I'm sure lots of the family felt the same way but the boss is the boss is the boss as Neil would say .

The galante hit. His attempt to control the heroin trade and the use of zip factions to split the bonanno family set in motion the same destructive policies that were to shake the Sicilian families to their core with the rise of the corleonesi. The destructive and flashy attitudes, the huge amounts of money involved would draw the attention of law enforcement and lead to the new York families being brought to their knees, if not extincted then reduced to a lesser role.

I would not be surprised if a John gotti did not view the killing of galante with considerable interest given the events of December 1985.

excellent points.......

Ive never looked at it from that point of view before......

May'be i'm not getting it ...ok, they say he wanted to dominate the HEROIN trade . why did the other families want him dead ? luccheses's Columbo's Genovese's and Gambino's had their own network's of narcartic's .Was he under cutting them in the pricing ? he was basically a junk guy right ? To me it's GALANTE HIT , I'll never forget that daily new's front page ,HISTORIC .I'M A LIL TO YOUNG FOR THE MAD HATTER EXPIERIENCE .

Because he was the heroin guy and wasn't sharing the profits with the bosses of the other families.

Didn't he threaten tho slap Gambino or something to that effect?

I might have heard something like that. Regardless I know he was disrespecting him and the other bosses.

No doubt about that....

I'm sure all the rest of the heads of the family's were just thrilled with this guy appointing himself boss, talking crazy about them, not sharing profits ect............he was just fucked all the way around

imho if he slapped Gambino he would have been dead alot sooner.

Anastasia was the bigger hit due to the fact that the killing of Albert was the first killing of a mob boss in New York since the Castellammare War. The bosses in the other cities around the country did not know what was going on, and were traveling or sending messengers to New York to find out.

I agree Giacomo Anastasia hit was bigger in my opinion. Considering the publics eyes were opened around then w the Mcclellan hearings and the aftermath that saw Vito and Carlo rise to power and Bonnano lost his biggest ally on the Commission. The ripple affect from that day in the barbers chair changed history to such a degree def bigger hit.

May'be i'm not getting it ... the Mangano bros. were hit too .how was he pissing off other bosses ? The GAMBINO'S had a great Sicilian connection too . 18th ave was booming with heroin .Did Rusty have enough juice with the zip faction to wack GALANTE , no way.

True barry, Vincent Mangano is often looked over, but that is due to the fact that he disappeared rather then being killed in public. I made a mistake in saying that Anastasia was the first mob boss to be killed in the New York area since the Castellammare War, but Mangano was losing allies fast around the country after WW2, where Albert still had some powerful allies around the nation at the time of his death. Anastasia murder put the spotlight on OC, but it was the big meeting that really put a target on the mafia's back.

I feel AnastasiA WAS TH MUCH

messed up last post. Anastasia hit was nuch bigger. if theboys would of misse big war!!!

hands down the hit on anastasia. it paved the way for carlo gambinos rise without that hit carlo would probably never had become boss most likely not leading to big paulies rise and fall and john gotti.

The Anastasia hit, hands down. No Anastasia hit, no Apalachin. No Apalachin, the mob is still under the radar.

The Galante hit was pretty famous though.

But the Anastasia hit is far more famous still.

Anastasia for sure. The Galante hit was big but it was big for the Bonnano family and how it shaped their future

anastasia because he was hit because of fear from other bosses not over money

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Albert it had a bigger impact on the commission,Frank early retirement Carlos become a boss VITO calling a meeting way bigger.

Did Galante really die with a cigar in his mouth or did Joe Coffey put it there?

Cos I gotta say. If someone put it there it kinda takes away from the impact of that famous picture.

It is probably the most iconic mafia related picture ever taken.

I'm reading the Coffey Files right now. He didn't put it there.

Joe Coffey addressed the cigar in his book. He says it was proven that Galante had the cigar in his mouth at the moment the killers started shooting. When Joe Coffey arrived on the scene, Galante was already removed from Joe and Mary's.

Alfa- how do u like Coffeys book? I got it for my 30th and read it over the summer I really liked it..good info in there about That Lucchese chop shop bust, but im blanking wasnt that Paul or Babe Vario involved?

Hi Mikey, I'm enjoying Joe's book a great deal. The book is an easy read, unlike Sixth Family which reads like a word puzzle.

This book hits the right spot. If you really really enjoy reading, this is your book. It's down to earth and has many strange surprises that are better than fiction.

I was fascinated to learn that Joe Coffey preferred tea.

While him and The Coffey Gang were staking out gangsters, everybody would be plunking down cup after cup of coffee. Joe had tea instead.

The Vatican stuff is mind boggling!

I've read all the "Galante wasn't Boss" things, but I disagree. For a few reasons. Ask Joey Massino who presided over his making ceremony. He will tell you Carmine Galante made him. If he wasn't the Boss what business did he have making guys? Did Rastelli give Carmine permission to make guys? I think not because Galante didn't have to ask. My second reason. If the Bonanno Family wanted to take out a Captain why did they have to go to the Commission for the Galante hit? It's in house. If Rastelli was Boss and had an acting all he would have to do was give the order from prison. Commission rules are to take out a Boss you need Commission approval. Galante was the Boss therefore they sought out the Commissions approval to hit Galante, which they received. Which proves Galante was a Boss or the Commission approval wouldn't have been needed.

As far as whose was the biggest hit, it was the Anastasia hit hands down.

Good points regarding Galante, yates...

@Yates, Very good points, bud.

Galante wasn't a renegade captain, and I don't know why people believe that. He had power equal to Rastelli, so he was effectively the Boss or Acting persay.

Hi there Yates. The fact that Galante's enemies sought commission approval to take him out does not necessarily mean he was a boss.

Galante's position before he went to prison was Underboss I believe. He was probably Underboss while he was away, and when he came back. Underbosses are also members of the Commission. Therefore permission had to be sought to take Galante out because he was a member of the Commission, not because he was definitely a boss.