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Posted By: jonnynonos

Accardo heist film - 06/03/14 07:16 PM

Making a movie about the Accardo jewelry heist. DeNiro as Accardo... not bad!

http://reelchicago.com/article/deniro-pattinson-here-first-studio-film-2014140601
Posted By: NickyEyes1

Re: Accardo heist film - 06/03/14 07:22 PM

Wow, maybe this will finally be a great Chicago mob film! They never seem to make movies on Chicago besides Casino, but that was mostly Vegas. I remember reading a few months back about a family secrets movie, but who knows if that'll ever pan out.

With DeNiro doing this and the Hoffa movie with Scorsese maybe there will finally be another good batch of mob movies. It's been a long time since there's been a very good mob movie.
Posted By: SonnyBlackstein

Re: Accardo heist film - 06/03/14 07:33 PM

Originally Posted By: NickyEyes1
Wow, maybe this will finally be a great Chicago mob film! They never seem to make movies on Chicago besides Casino,


Check out 'The Untouchables.'

Great Chicago flick.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFta001pK-E
Posted By: NickyEyes1

Re: Accardo heist film - 06/03/14 07:36 PM

Haha how did I forget about that. One of my favorites. Besides The Untouchables!
Posted By: Snakes

Re: Accardo heist film - 06/03/14 07:38 PM

Downside is that the prick from Twilight is in it but the upside is that he'll probably die in the movie.

I hope they get someone good as a technical advisor - I still have my doubts about it.
Posted By: njcapo35

Re: Accardo heist film - 06/03/14 07:48 PM

Did you ever see that flop of a movie Chicago OverCoat? Nah just joking, it was ok.
Posted By: Snakes

Re: Accardo heist film - 06/03/14 07:51 PM

No, but I'm extremely tough on mob movies but "cheap" mob movies make me cringe. Casino is my all-time favorite.
Posted By: HuronSocialAthletic

Re: Accardo heist film - 06/03/14 08:00 PM

It definitely won't be that great. It's about an event that just happened to take place in Chicago to an Outfit boss, not the Outfit itself. Doesn't sound all that different from Casino, which, aside from Pesci actually working a competent Grand Avenue accent, was very lackluster.

I really wish they'd make a Chicago Mafia worth a piss one of these days. About Taylor Street during the 50s/60s, Aiuppa/Ferriola/Carlisi's Cicero during the 60's/70s/80s, or Chinatown under the LaPietra family. Or Lombardo's Grand Avenue during the 70s/80s. They'd need to include the heavy Chicago accents, the unique Outfit attire, and tons of Chicago idiosyncrasies & quirks. That would be actually be interesting.

Calabrese, Jr was in talks with HBO/showtime or one of those networks to produce a series or a TV film. But that probably won't ever happen. And then there's Mark Wahlberg's planned adaptation of Cooley's book, but there hasn't been any word on that in quite a while. It probably wouldn't have been legit anyways.

Oh Well. Guess I'll just have to start penning my own damn Outfit film or TV series!
Posted By: HuronSocialAthletic

Re: Accardo heist film - 06/03/14 08:04 PM

Not to say that Casino wasn't a solid film. Just not a solid Outfit film. If you could even call it that.

The only legitimate films/series on Chicago crime I've seen were the show 'Crime Story' & 'The Last Rites Of Joe May'. Not surprisingly, both starred one Mr. Dennis Farina. RIP.
Posted By: Snakes

Re: Accardo heist film - 06/03/14 08:12 PM

Casino never mentioned "Chicago" once during the entire movie. Your fun fact for the day!
Posted By: NickyEyes1

Re: Accardo heist film - 06/03/14 08:18 PM

True. But they did say Outfit!

Huron, how could you not like Casino? Great movie.
Posted By: Dellacroce

Re: Accardo heist film - 06/03/14 08:22 PM

Huron wouldn't know a good movie if it hit him over the head with a baseball bat in the middle of a cornfield...
Posted By: HuronSocialAthletic

Re: Accardo heist film - 06/03/14 08:23 PM

Hey hey I said it was a good movie. Just not a legit OUTFIT movie. It was good popcorn fun though, I enjoyed it.
Posted By: HuronSocialAthletic

Re: Accardo heist film - 06/03/14 08:24 PM

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Posted By: Iceman999

Re: Accardo heist film - 06/03/14 08:27 PM

Kind of a weird idea for a film. A group of what can only be described as retards rob arguably one of the most powerful mob bosses in the US and end up getting their faces fried with blowtorches and their throats slit. This when they could make a film about "Mad Sam" DeStefano... smile
Posted By: NickyEyes1

Re: Accardo heist film - 06/03/14 08:39 PM

Hopefully it actually has a mafia element to it and it's not focused 100% on the robbery.
Posted By: HuronSocialAthletic

Re: Accardo heist film - 06/03/14 08:39 PM

Exactly, make a film about the DeStefano crew or something.

The Sam Giancana film with John Turtorro was absolutely abysmal. No one saw it and neither should you guys.
Posted By: jonnynonos

Re: Accardo heist film - 06/03/14 08:45 PM

Originally Posted By: Iceman999
Kind of a weird idea for a film. A group of what can only be described as retards rob arguably one of the most powerful mob bosses in the US and end up getting their faces fried with blowtorches and their throats slit. This when they could make a film about "Mad Sam" DeStefano... smile


This is kind of my sentiment. Of all the Outfit stories... I mean, no doubt, it is an amazing piece of Chicago lore... and unbelievable.

But from what I know about it, it's pretty much what you describe.

A group of robbers make the galactically insane decision to rob one of the most powerful mob bosses in the country and are all subsequently murdered.

And, yeah, Patterson plays Mandell... who definitely was killed.

I guess if it's true to the story, someone will be playing Frank Calabrese, if they show the murder.
Posted By: TheAustralian

Re: Accardo heist film - 06/03/14 08:48 PM

How about a mafia film that isn't about a real person and is based in the 21st century.. hollywood pls.
Posted By: funkster

Re: Accardo heist film - 06/03/14 08:59 PM

I don't have high hopes with Pattinson in the lead role..plus a good mob flick is very dependent on having a good director.


And Casino is a masterpiece.
Posted By: SgWaue86

Re: Accardo heist film - 06/03/14 08:59 PM

I'm sure its gonna be good, and if I'm not mistaken a lot of guys were in on the murders so im sure In the day and age we'll get the characters storys from both sides, I bet they make Accardo look like one cold bastard. I cant wait to see it. The last rights of joe may was a good flick.
Posted By: jonnynonos

Re: Accardo heist film - 06/03/14 09:03 PM

Originally Posted By: SgWaue86
I'm sure its gonna be good, and if I'm not mistaken a lot of guys were in on the murders so im sure In the day and age we'll get the characters storys from both sides, I bet they make Accardo look like one cold bastard. I cant wait to see it. The last rights of joe may was a good flick.


DeNiro was awesome as Victor Tellegio in American Hustle.
Posted By: HuronSocialAthletic

Re: Accardo heist film - 06/03/14 09:13 PM

Deniro won't be able to nail Tony Accardo's shit-thick Grand Avenue accent.

Dennis Franz, on the other hand...
Posted By: HuronSocialAthletic

Re: Accardo heist film - 06/03/14 09:15 PM

The thing is the story isn't all that interesting. Like at all. It was absurd, that's for sure. But the criminals weren't interesting people, they were just boneheads. It was also very quickly resolved, not something that would lend itself to a feature length picture. Maybe a short.
Posted By: NickyEyes1

Re: Accardo heist film - 06/03/14 09:36 PM

DeNiro could maybe pull off a Chicago accent. You never know...


Posted By: Snakes

Re: Accardo heist film - 06/03/14 09:42 PM

Hopefully they don't make them out to be geniuses, although they had to have some degree of smarts to break into Accardo's fortress. Let's call it more balls than brains.

Don't forget, these guys stole from the Outfit twice and they were lucky they didn't get their throats cut the first time.
Posted By: Snakes

Re: Accardo heist film - 06/03/14 09:43 PM

Also, DeNiro is currently only one year younger (70) than Accardo was at the time of the robbery.
Posted By: TheAustralian

Re: Accardo heist film - 06/03/14 09:50 PM

So wait... is this another movie about dumb guys stealing from mobsters?
Posted By: jonnynonos

Re: Accardo heist film - 06/03/14 09:59 PM

Originally Posted By: NickyEyes1
DeNiro could maybe pull off a Chicago accent. You never know...




When he played Jimmy Burke he was calling Henry Hill a dozen times a day asking how Burke held his cigarette, etc. I think DeNiro can do anything!
Posted By: PKDickman

Re: Accardo heist film - 06/03/14 10:05 PM

Originally Posted By: TheAustralian
So wait... is this another movie about dumb guys stealing from mobsters?


They weren't dumb. They went there to get their own loot back.
I've always felt that Mendell & Moretti knew they were dead men the day Accardo knew they were the guys who robbed Levinson.
Robbing Tony was their version of the Boston tea party.

No street taxation wihout representation.
Posted By: Camarel

Re: Accardo heist film - 06/03/14 10:06 PM

Originally Posted By: SonnyBlackstein
Originally Posted By: NickyEyes1
Wow, maybe this will finally be a great Chicago mob film! They never seem to make movies on Chicago besides Casino,


Check out 'The Untouchables.'

Great Chicago flick.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFta001pK-E



One of the worst films i've ever seen, i have no clue if it wants to be a comedy or a serious crime film, neither does De Palma. I'm not a fan of it but the series is alot better.
Posted By: HuronSocialAthletic

Re: Accardo heist film - 06/03/14 10:09 PM

Lol yeah I think you're overrating rob deniro big time. We'll see though.
Posted By: HuronSocialAthletic

Re: Accardo heist film - 06/03/14 10:11 PM

The untouchables sucked, agreed. Kevin Costner can't act his way out of a dust pan & depalma is the definition of inconsistent.
Posted By: HuronSocialAthletic

Re: Accardo heist film - 06/03/14 10:12 PM

Actually 'Call Northside 777' with Jimmy Stewart is an incredible Chicago cop flick, complete with some of the very best on-site location shooting of the old Humboldt Park/Hermosa Neighborhoods, pre-hispanic takeover.
Posted By: Snakes

Re: Accardo heist film - 06/03/14 10:13 PM

I like Untouchables but I have to suspend disbelief while watching it.
Posted By: GaryMartin

Re: Accardo heist film - 06/03/14 10:50 PM

I believe this film has potential. DeNiro is a great actor, but Pattinson is questionable. Maybe Mad Sam could play a vampire !

Lots of potential movies could be made from Outfit history. DeStefano would be a good choice (IMO). Family Secrets could include different eras and people. What about Harry Aleman and the Billy Logan murder? Also, "When Corruption Was King."

I've yet to see a good Giancana movie, but the potential is there for one.
Posted By: funkster

Re: Accardo heist film - 06/03/14 10:51 PM

Overrating Deniro? The man is the greatest actor of his generation. He has been taking crap roles because he wants easy street not for lack of skill that's for sure.
Posted By: TheAustralian

Re: Accardo heist film - 06/03/14 10:58 PM

A film about Sam DeStefano would be too violent.
Posted By: karona1

Re: Accardo heist film - 06/03/14 11:17 PM

victor tellegio in american hustle, Deniros character , is based Vincent Alo.
Posted By: PP

Re: Accardo heist film - 06/03/14 11:53 PM

Originally Posted By: HuronSocialAthletic


and tons of Chicago idiosyncrasies & quirks.



Do you mean this in reference to Chicago as a city or to the outfit?
Posted By: PP

Re: Accardo heist film - 06/03/14 11:57 PM

I think the best Chicago TV series would be about the late 1970's. Corruption was still rampant, they still had vegas, the bosses were still powerful and they still controlled politicians, judges, etc.

A period piece about the 1970's outfit would be great. Sopranos meets The Wire meets Mad Men.

There's supposedly a Chicago mafia drama pilot being pitched to one of the cable networks. Called "Pressure Cooker" possibly.
Posted By: cookcounty

Re: Accardo heist film - 06/04/14 12:16 AM

Originally Posted By: jonnynonos
Originally Posted By: NickyEyes1
DeNiro could maybe pull off a Chicago accent. You never know...




When he played Jimmy Burke he was calling Henry Hill a dozen times a day asking how Burke held his cigarette, etc. I think DeNiro can do anything!



lemme guess....henry hill told de niro everything that the knew
Posted By: HuronSocialAthletic

Re: Accardo heist film - 06/04/14 03:54 AM

Originally Posted By: PP
Originally Posted By: HuronSocialAthletic


and tons of Chicago idiosyncrasies & quirks.



Do you mean this in reference to Chicago as a city or to the outfit?


Both. Mafia culture in Chicago isn't like Mafia culture anywhere else. Whereas out east, it all sort of lumps & blends together. Chicago is something completely unique, from the accents, to the vocabulary, the street uniforms, everything. It would all have to be completely unique to this city, and to be honest, couldn't resemble any of the shows you mentioned if it were to be legit.

I agree with the late 70s though. Specifically the Chinatown Crew under the LaPietra Bros, that would be completely ideal. It'd have to be filmed largely in the Armour Square/Bridgeport neighborhoods as well, and who knows if that would even be possible.
Posted By: HuronSocialAthletic

Re: Accardo heist film - 06/04/14 03:58 AM

Originally Posted By: funkster
Overrating Deniro? The man is the greatest actor of his generation. He has been taking crap roles because he wants easy street not for lack of skill that's for sure.


Heh, well I watch a lot of movies. Hell, my favorite DeNiro roles are probably films you've never seen. He's a great character actor (or was), but after the Untouchables performance & the Rosenthal portrayal, I have no interest in seeing him in anything Chicago-related ever again. He's a New Yorker, and just can't kick that accent/swagger.

But hey, we'll see. Tony Accardo was 100% pure Grand Avenue down to his pinky toe, we'll see if he tries to pull it off or if he just phones it in & plays a NY mob guy in a Chicago background.
Posted By: HuronSocialAthletic

Re: Accardo heist film - 06/04/14 04:08 AM

Originally Posted By: GaryMartin
I believe this film has potential. DeNiro is a great actor, but Pattinson is questionable. Maybe Mad Sam could play a vampire !

Lots of potential movies could be made from Outfit history. DeStefano would be a good choice (IMO). Family Secrets could include different eras and people. What about Harry Aleman and the Billy Logan murder? Also, "When Corruption Was King."

I've yet to see a good Giancana movie, but the potential is there for one.


There's always some Giancana biopic in pre production. It always falls through. Mooney was a very unique, larger than life figure that would be daunting to try & pull off. The only attempt made so far was by Turturro in an HBO film called "Sam & Phyllis" or something. Oh boy, was it terrible!

Not sure about Aleman, he was just a hitter, and I'm sure they'd find a way to half ass it & just make it about some random crazy hitman, with Chicago & the Outfit being afterthoughts. Too bad, because his story is fascinating.

Mark Wahlberg secured the rights to When Corruption Was King, but I don't have high hopes for whatever he's got planned. That story is tailor made for a Hollywood to ignore the Chicago Mafia culture it's embedded in & just focus on the plot itself.
Posted By: jonnynonos

Re: Accardo heist film - 06/04/14 11:08 AM

It really just depends on the story they tell. On the surface there may not be much there, but if the script really gets into these characters it could be interesting.

Look at Goodfellas, on the surface it doesn't sound that interesting: Associate rats. But it was such an authentic, compelling, look at the life of a rank-and-file gangster that it's now listed as one of the greatest movies ever made.

It's more about the script, the director and actors than the story itself.

You could list thousands of movies that sounded good but turned out to be awful... aka, Netflix streaming. Half of the descriptions sound pretty cool... then you turn it on and it's unbelievably awful.
Posted By: funkster

Re: Accardo heist film - 06/04/14 11:09 AM

Originally Posted By: HuronSocialAthletic
Originally Posted By: funkster
Overrating Deniro? The man is the greatest actor of his generation. He has been taking crap roles because he wants easy street not for lack of skill that's for sure.


Heh, well I watch a lot of movies. Hell, my favorite DeNiro roles are probably films you've never seen.

You might be surprised wink


Regardless, I don't see anyone doing a good mafia movie anytime soon. I think the only people that can master the genre are those that have a real feel for it and grew up in the neighborhoods. That's what made Scorsese's forays into the genre so great. Even Donnie Brasco has a serious cheese element to it in some parts.
Posted By: HuronSocialAthletic

Re: Accardo heist film - 06/04/14 12:05 PM

I concur 100%.

And you know, one of the things that made The Sopranos so authentic & well-realized, is that the man responsible was actually from that area! He actually spent excessive amounts of quality time around Jersey Mafia people. The landmarks, the accents, the lingo, the mannerisms, everything was done to an absolute T. It was pure New Jersey LCN put to film

I think our best hope for a quality Outfit film or series, is if Calabrese, Jr actually pulls the trigger with a production company & forces them to produce his specific vision. But that Guy's a complete bonehead & would/will probably get taken advantage of & allow some two bit director to completely botch the project. If it ever happens at all.

Or maybe Michael Mann will actually buckle down & get something right one of these days.

Or who knows, maybe I've got something in the works wink
Posted By: funkster

Re: Accardo heist film - 06/04/14 01:49 PM

Yep Chase's real name is David DeCesare lol
Posted By: HuronSocialAthletic

Re: Accardo heist film - 06/04/14 01:58 PM

Yes I know
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Accardo heist film - 06/04/14 02:02 PM

I'm just not getting my hopes up on this one.
Posted By: azguy

Re: Accardo heist film - 06/04/14 04:39 PM

Years ago this was written about in Playboy, yes, I read it. The break-in crew robbed a jeweley store, the owner and old jew, had a life long relationship with Accardo. Accardo put word on the street to return the loot and all would be forgivven and chalk up as a mistake.

The break-in crew did just that and then a few nights later, I believe Accardo was in Plam Springs actaully, they broke in and took the loot back and left a lone $100 bill in the basement safe.

Each one was killed in mob style fashion and left on city streets, front seats of cars or in trunks. I think 4 or 5 all told lost their lives....

It was amazing read, wish i could find it and post it for everyone.
Posted By: HuronSocialAthletic

Re: Accardo heist film - 06/04/14 05:10 PM

http://business.highbeam.com/137462/arti...ed-days-chicago

^theres the first portion of it. I remember it as well, it was called Boosting The Big Tuna. Of course it was very fancified & glorified. But yeah, still a cool read & would make for a great 40/45 minute short film.
Posted By: Iceman999

Re: Accardo heist film - 06/04/14 05:38 PM

There's a decent amount of info on it in Roemer's Accardo book.

Seriously though, these guys had to have been some of the most deserving Darwin Award recipients ever.
Posted By: GaryMartin

Re: Accardo heist film - 06/04/14 06:44 PM

Here's a link to the story about the break-in at Accardo's home. Takes a while to read this one.


http://www.ganglandchicagohistory.com/2010/02/feature-article-3-bad-career-move.html
Posted By: jonnynonos

Re: Accardo heist film - 06/04/14 08:07 PM

Apparently they killed or were planning on killing more than just the thieves who actually broke in. Remember this from FS--gonna make an example of one guy from each ethnic group!

Bobby The Beak speaks:

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2007-07-26/news/0707251046_1_siegel-burglarized-chicago-outfit
Posted By: GaryMartin

Re: Accardo heist film - 06/04/14 08:20 PM

Sure do remember that one, Jonny. "Don't have to be too bright to figure that out."

"Bobby The Beak."

Below is one of the bio's about Accardo. Nothing new here. But if you scroll to about 2:40 you can hear Roemer talk about the "break-in." The sound is out of sync so beware.


http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xmur65_tony-accardo_news

Posted By: Don_Fultiano23

Re: Accardo heist film - 08/24/14 03:06 PM

I agree
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