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Charles Manson’s ties to the Mafia

Posted By: DBCooper

Charles Manson’s ties to the Mafia - 06/03/14 06:20 AM

I think it´s total Bullshit, but I wanna share:

Wednesday, October 22, 2008
The Devil’s In the Slide: An Offer They Didn’t Refuse
Edited for clarity 6/20/11

Charles Manson’s ties to the Mafia began with his transfer from the federal reformatory in Petersburg, VA to the one located in Chillicothe, OH in January of 1952. At the tender age of nineteen, he became associated with legendary New York mobster Frank Costello, a fellow inmate. Manson regarded the Don of All Dons with nothing less than fawning admiration. As Charlie wrote in his autobiography:



When I was at Chillicothe I met Frank Costello. When I walked down the halls with him or sat at the table for meals, I probably experienced the same sensation an honest kid would get out of being with Joe DiMaggio or Mickey Mantle: admiration bordering on worship. To me, if Costello did something right or wrong, that was the way it was supposed to be.
Later, when serving time at McNeil Island Correction Institute, Manson came across another Mafioso, famed gunslinger Frankie Carbo, formerly of Murder Incorporated, and, like Costello, a New York City-based gangster. Sources vary as to how close Carbo and Manson actually were. Manson has admitted to knowing him, but little else. Realist Editor Paul Krassner seems to hint at a closer connection. Whatever their relationship, they really did know each other. Moreover, they had a common enemy.

Some have speculated that as a fawning devotee of two violent, high profile thugs, Manson might have taken up one of his old mentors’ hit contracts. In his 1987 book, The Ultimate Evil, journalist Maury Terry made mention of Manson’s ties to the Mafia, as did Krassner briefly in a 1973 essay titled “The Rise of Sirhan Sirhan in the Scientology Hierarchy." These references infer that the motive behind the Tate-LaBianca murders lay not in cataclysmic race war, but rather in La Cosa Nostra’s exertion of its silent power.

Of course, if all seven victims died as a result of a Mafia hit, one would then have to wonder what in the world Tate et al did to incur their wrath. Since the mob is underworld, what would Sharon Tate and Roman Polanski have to do with such things, especially if, as public figures, their lives were so, um, overworld?

Ed Sanders noted that at the time of his death, Wojiciech Frykowski was in the middle of a “ten-day MDA” experiment. Methylendioxyamphetamine (MDA) is a hallucinogenic drug with no condoned therapeutic usages. In addition to a trip slightly mellower than acid, it has some properties that approximate ecstasy, a chemically similar drug which also affects mood and social understanding—hence MDA’s nickname, ‘the love drug.’

In The Shadow over Santa Susana, Adam Gorightly fills in some of the gaps of this particular hypothesis. Apparently, Frykowski had met Canadian dope-smuggler and gangster Billy Doyle through Cass Elliot. Doyle, knowing that Frykowski had helped Jay Sebring’s Hollywood drug business (some referred to the hair-stylist as “The Candyman to the Stars”), approached the young Pole with a far more lucrative idea. He offered Wojiciech an exclusive MDA distributorship that would cover all of Los Angeles and the nearby area. They planned to smuggle the drug in from Canada

As an early designer drug, MDA could have had interesting consequences on the drug scene, and the normal players in it. After all, it offered high-end competition to LSD, heroin and other recreational poisons. Naturally, one of those competitors would have been the Mob.

Hypothetically speaking, regardless of whether or not this story is true, I would hardly expect the LA Syndicate to stand idly by, while a small, foreign operation over which they had no control snorted up their profits with a rival drug that they didn’t know how to make. I would expect the Mob to take control of that operation—perhaps through peaceful means, perhaps by violence—or shut it down. Thus, this aspect of the story sounds plausible. If Frykowski were the sole kingpin in the LA area, and he left himself unprotected, then his death wouldn’t be that surprising. Moreover, since he had ingested MDA, and since the only plausible source would have been Doyle, then we have slight (albeit unconvincing in and of itself) evidence that Frykowski intended to step up his drug smuggling operation via the Canadian connection.

The connections between Leno LaBianca and the Mafia were far more intimate and better documented. In their initial investigation, LA police immediately looked into this angle. The cops noted in their official report that Leno had sat on the Board of Directors of Hollywood National Bank, a financial institution that they had long regarded as a Mafia front. Furthermore, LaBianca had a serious gambling problem, and some have alleged that he owed the aforementioned Manson associate Frank Carbo over $30,000 in 1969 money at the time of his death. The investigation also turned up another interesting tidbit: the Gateway Market Corporation, founded by his father and owned by him until his recent sale, was missing $200,000. It’s quite possible that Leno embezzled the money to pay off Carbo and other creditors.

In a 1991 episode of the tabloid news show Hard Copy, Manson admitted to knowing about LaBianca’s Mafia connections when confirming that he in fact asked Leno for his “little black book.” Years earlier, Manson told Krassner, “The black book was what CIA and mob market players had, Hollywood Park [race track] and numbers rackets to move in the governor’s office legally.”

Manson wound up leaving the LaBianca household without the little black book. Leno’s first wife, Alice LaBianca, would find it a few days later when cleaning up the bloody mess left behind by Charles Watson and company. She dutifully turned it over to a Sgt. Frank Patchett of the LAPD. Alice also heard neighborhood rumors alleging that someone fitting Manson’s description had loud arguments with Leno in Harold True’s front yard, next door.

In this version of the Tate-LaBianca murders, there were two intended victims, with everyone else portrayed as condemned lambs along for the gory ride.* But there are a number of problems with this scenario. First off, one would have to imagine a uniquely weird situation that would prompt the Mafia to dismiss an army of professional and experienced killers for a group of amateurs who had yet to taste blood. If the mob really wanted LaBianca and Frykowski, then it would make more sense to have a pro do it. After all, killing someone is more difficult than most people imagine, and the murders at 10050 Cielo demonstrate this in spades. Despite inflicting numerous gunshot and stab wounds, and even a disemboweling, three of their victims kept getting up.** And supposing that the Mafia did give them a contract for the Tate murders, why would they give them a second job the following night if they had so thoroughly botched the first one? In addition to making a mess out of the first crime scene, they left fingerprints, eyeglasses, and all sorts of other evidence behind. And because of their newness to the hit biz, how much could the Mafia depend on their silence if caught?

Furthermore, this hypothesis makes the rationale for the Hinman slaying all the more tenuous. They allegedly took the contract in order to raise money for Bobby Beausoleil’s defense. While Manson might have had Mafia contacts, the others did not. Moreover, one would have to wonder why Manson would risk so much (mind you, he’s out on parole) to play both matchmaker and murder professor when most likely he couldn’t care less what happened to Hinman or Beausoleil. After all, he managed to get Patricia Krenwinkel, Susan Atkins and Leslie van Houten to take full credit for the Tate-LaBianca murders. He could have easily done the same with the Hinman slaying, especially in light of his minimal involvement with it.

Recently, another theory along the same lines has cropped up, one that maintains that the killings were part of an organized crime operation, but not one involving the Mafia. In this other version, some members of the “family” wanted to form their own little crime syndicate, one that cast Manson not in the role of godfather, but rather consigliere.

http://xdell.blogspot.de/2008/10/devils-in-slide-offer-they-didnt-refuse.html
Posted By: Footreads

Re: Charles Manson’s ties to the Mafia - 06/03/14 06:35 AM

Joke right?
Posted By: Italianheritage

Re: Charles Manson’s ties to the Mafia - 06/06/14 10:48 AM

Manson and his "family", and Manson groupies like John Waters, Ed Saunders, and others have spread so much BS about Manson that it's difficult for people to tell what is or was true, and what is not.
Posted By: halzogbe

Re: Charles Manson’s ties to the Mafia - 06/06/14 06:45 PM

Charles Manson makes parole





Corcoran, California –One of the most famous killers in the American prison system will be walking free. On Tuesday Charles Manson, who is now 79 years old, was granted parole by the California Board of Parole and authorized by California Governor Jerry Brown.
According to California Board of Parole Hearings Commissioner John Peck, prison overcrowding forced the prison board to re-evaluate prisoners that are elderly or those with serious illnesses. In February a panel of federal judges ordered California Gov. Jerry Brown (D) two more years to reduce chronic prison overcrowding that has cost the state billions of dollars

The ruling, issued by three judges overseeing the state’s efforts to ease the overcrowding, gives California until February 2016 to achieve their goals. But, the judges said, the state has to make elderly inmates and those with serious illnesses eligible for parole immediately.
Manson, who was denied parole in April of 2012 and wasn’t scheduled for another parole hearing until 2027, was re-evaluated due to his age and health and the Parole Board recommended his parole.
“He is 79 years old and in poor health,” said Commissioner Peck. “We know it’s not going to be a popular decision but, considering our other options he’s the least threat.”
Protesters have already planned to picket the lawn outside of the prison in Corcoran but what is more surprising is the number of supporters that have come out to express joy over the news.
“It’s a great [expletive] day in America!” said Joe Goldsmith, who camped out in from of the prison Wednesday morning decked out in manson gear with tattoos covering his face. “Manson is my idol”
While parole was granted, the actual release date has not yet been set.

http://empirenews.net/charles-manson-granted-parole/
Posted By: Italianheritage

Re: Charles Manson’s ties to the Mafia - 06/06/14 09:56 PM

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/718488-charles-manson-granted-parole-is-fake/
Posted By: Lou_Para

Re: Charles Manson’s ties to the Mafia - 06/06/14 11:36 PM

If you look at the rest of the articles on the website that claims Manson got parole,it's immediately,incredibly,undoubtedly,obvious that this is a parody.
I trust you posted this as a joke.
By the by,do you know where Manson learned to play guitar?
While locked up in his early career,he was befriended by Alvin "Creepy" Karpis,one of the Ma Barker gang associates.Karpis taught him a few chords.
Posted By: GerryLang

Re: Charles Manson’s ties to the Mafia - 06/07/14 08:16 AM

Last year a very good biography on Manson came out, and it was very well researched and went in depth about his time in prison, and there was no mention of him befriending any mafia guys in prison, not to stay it couldn't have happened though. He did spend the vast majority of his life in prison, even before he got life. The book is "The Life and Times of Charles Manson." I'm not really evem into the Manson stuff, but found the book great, it dispelled a lot of misinfo accepted as truth over the years.
Posted By: bigboy

Re: Charles Manson’s ties to the Mafia - 06/07/14 08:56 AM

I think we can safely say that Mansion will NEVER be paroled. I recently read something about one of his girls- Susan Atkins- dying in prison. She had already had a leg amputated and was dying of cancer. The parole board would not even let her out to spend her last week on earth with her family even though she was apparently fully reformed
Posted By: Italianheritage

Re: Charles Manson’s ties to the Mafia - 06/07/14 11:31 AM

Originally Posted By: GerryLang
Last year a very good biography on Manson came out, and it was very well researched and went in depth about his time in prison, and there was no mention of him befriending any mafia guys in prison, not to stay it couldn't have happened though. He did spend the vast majority of his life in prison, even before he got life. The book is "The Life and Times of Charles Manson." I'm not really evem into the Manson stuff, but found the book great, it dispelled a lot of misinfo accepted as truth over the years.


I read that book. It was a lot more well researched and written than the Ed Saunders book "The Family" was.
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