N.Y. Mob helped gay bars thrive

FYI

http://nypost.com/2014/05/03/why-nycs-gay-bars-thrived-because-of-the-mob/

Is anyone really surprised? This has been known about for decades. Or at least LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual, and trans) people have known this for decades.

The author has been here plugging this book. And thanks for posting, Gary. But as I'm sure you know, this isn't news to any real mob buff. Matty and Tony went from already well off skippers, to having serious generational wealth as a result of their involvement with the queer bars on the Westside.

It's old news. But boy, the beat writers today really wish they had a mafia to write about like they did back then. Don't they?

The Outfit financed a ton of gay bars on the North side of Chicago as well.

It's really funny, they're digging into decades ago news just to get a headline with the word mob in it. Must be frustrating not to be able to drink from that water hole anymore. Hah

Exactly.

What do people here think about the innuendo about Sammy Bull? Any truth in the bisexual rumours?

What are/were the rumors?

Other people would explain it better but Gotti (I think) said he had sex with men while he was in beautician school.

Yeah, so he made him his underboss.

I love these Monday Morning Quarterbacks. These are the same types who say they "knew" that Joey Massino was no good, or that Donnie Brasco was a cop. Yeah, sure they did .

OK I read the book that Gravano basically wrote or told to Peter Maas, and Maas attached his name to it.

In the part about the beautician school Gravano claims he just had sex with women; but it did seem far fetched since he claimed it all happened there at the school, women who were also there at the school would see him and immediately have sex with him right then and there, his GF he was dating or later wife was there and they did it in secret while she was also there, and most women unless they have decided upon a certain profession even back in the 60s would not have sex like that with a guy they were not dating or in an actual relationship with or were not going to marry as it was seen as very trashy and they wouldn't have done it at their job or any sort of school but in private.

I did read about how Gotti and Gravano really did not like each other to put it lightly; but they were forced to work together.

Italian friends of mine told me how 25% of Italian men are bisexual but who knows if any of those people in OC were?

Where are you getting this shit from?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footbal...s-paid-sex.html

It's a something that goes back to the days of Ancient Rome; but there's some truth to it. My Italian friends did not say that all or most Italian men are bisexual; but sexuality will eventually be proven to be genetic.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

dude find somewhere else to post this garbage. i dont even know where to start with such moronic, simplistic trash.

+100. You nailed it, yet around that same time they were telling everyone Massino was bringing the Bonanno's back and that Brasco was the biggest earner in the family.....lol



Pizza you better look out, there is a 1/4 chance that you like dudes! J/K

I call bullshit as well. Just because the Romans done it doesn't mean folks hundreds or thousands of years later are doing it. You might want to tell your friend he is pretty damn stupid!

Because all mobsters are secretly fa***ts, BOOM!

Most Italian men love women. Even more than french people so you're friend must be a secret gay, no offense.

Actually yes a lot of people today are bisexual, since in regards to population of LGBT people (Lesbian, gay, bisexual, and trangender people), bisexuals are higher in population than gay men/lesbian women and trans people.

There's even an Italian politician who is out as bisexual.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfonso_Pecoraro_Scanio

When you look at the population of people in only Italy alone which is 60.92 million, and I'm not putting or adding in the Italian populations in other countries like the United States or Argentina 25% of the population is not that much at all.

Do you even know what it means to be bisexual? It means that the person is sexually and/or romantically attracted to both genders that means women and men.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bisexuality

Yes I know what the word bisexual means but it's the same for me, they suck dicks and are fags just like the others.

OK that's just your own internalised homophobia/biphobia and bigotry talking. There's a difference between being a gay man, and being bisexual. As bisexual men are sexually and romantically attracted to women and men, while gay/homosexual men are only sexually attracted to the same gender or men.

This thread sure has dumbed down.

Just this thread?

not just NYC but here in mass jerry a ran every peep show.disco.porno theatre. and in the lil cities Worcester Springfield all the gay clubs were owned by Italians who reported to ny or r..i. were my aunt would go watch superfly type movies in the 70tys would show gay porn to. she said the gay discos were the best because it the coke flew. guess the Irish bars just didn't have her type of fun.

You noticed that, too, huh?

I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer. But I'm not retarded, either .

You sure?

I'm starting to yearn now for the days of TheArm. That was a college seminar compared to this bizarre shit.

Who is Jerry?

I hope your aunt did not get addicted to cocaine as it is highly addictive. I met people who got into using it when it was popular in the late 70s and all through the 80s and 90s, and decades later they are still using it or use it when it is around/offered and are addicted to it.

Yes lots of places were owned including adult bookstores, seedy bars/discos/dance clubs, bath houses/saunas/public sex clubs/swingers clubs, strip clubs, brothels, porn/sex toy stores, and other things in small towns and large cities.

Let's skip the weird stuff and get back to the topic. Do you know specifics? Was it Ross Prio or DiVarco or Solano and what were the names of some of the bars? There isn't as much info on the Chicago - gay bar connection compared to NYC.

Jimmy Allegretti and then after his death, his nephew, Johnny Gattuso:

http://bitterqueen.typepad.com/friends_o...ago-outfit.html

Thanks, Snakes. I go to that site every so often but forgot about that info.

Ditto what Faithful said, Snakes. Good site and lots of stories/info.

Thanks

Yeah, if you want to read about gays and the mafia go to Friends of Ours lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqgoXVB20W4&feature=player_detailpage


fucking queers!!!

Not that interested in reading about gays, just mafia info, especially Chicago.

Hey gays have rights too how dare u say that. Lol