Getting made in 2013

I understand that nobody knows for sure, but do you think any of the LCN families made any members in 2013?

All 5 of the NY families without a doubt, a lot of the old timers are dying or retiring. I've heard from many on here that the Colombo's and Bonanno's are making guys on a regular basis to try and rebuild, it will never work though. Like John Gambino said in the meeting with Scoops that Skins recorded, something like... 'It's quality we need, not quantity'

The Gambino's and especially the Genovese family are more powerful (Not just because of their size)they are more selective with who they make. A massive chunk of the Colombo and Bonanno families seem to be nothing more then street thugs, like most of the Philly guys.

The bonanos are so desperate they r makin guys without commission approval. The lucheses supposedly put a hit on one of the guys and attempted to clip him in east Harlem last year. The hit was botched. Hit everyone got the cue that up still gotta get ok'd

Clip who, just for clarification?

The guy who was shot was a bonnano guy called Enzo stagno

That's the guy that owned the bakery right? I though no one had never heard of him before and the cops didn't believe him when he claimed to be made?

That it was a Lucchese sanctioned hit is totally unsubstantiated and highly unlikely.

It's also disputed the guy claimed he was made to the cops.

Bullshit storm in teacup.

that's some NYPost's crap.

Take it the families outside NY would also be making new members?

You are aware that The Commission hasn't met in years, right?

Granted, names are still passed around the other families to make sure that a proposed guy doesn't have a rat past. But the days of one family telling another family who they can make are pretty much over (other than to restrict and maintain the size of said family).




Thanks LK and SB. Agreed on both assessments .

Just more bullshit from an overzealous reporter working for a joke of a newspaper (which I fully admit to reading every day because I'm getting old and set in my ways, and I grew up on the Post ).

PB, I agree that the Post is a joke, yet I also read it.

The extent to which the Commission still even exists or effectively makes any calls at all can be called doubtful. You had the last meeting in 1985 (http://www.nydailynews.com/boss-rat-jose...rticle-1.114750).

I guess instead you have mini meetings between some guys in two or three families. There is probably some limited made list passing as well (like gotti jr's list that was found).

@little Nicky:

The last commission meeting was actually at Casablanca in the early 00's chaired by Massino.

yes, why?

They might gonna have to call NY for a get-go (maybe not) but sure they will.

"Enzo the Baker"

"You are aware that The Commission hasn't met in years, right? "

So does it make sense for the Genovese family to represent all these families outside NYC when the commission doesn't meet? Does the commission have the authority it had in days past?

I often wonder if there is anything important enough outside of NYC anymore to contact the commission.

I guess these questions would be hard for a non-insider to answer....

I didn't say they have summit like meetings but so called wedding lists do go around between the five families top guys to make sure the guys not a potential rat fella. The post def publishes garbage but is it that far fetched?

Philly Boston Rhode Island n Chicago pretty much do what they want w out New York input. It's interesting to note that Wilmington Delaware has elements of ny and philly present there and Baltimore is entirely gambino territory.

How much input does the commission have I New York anymore? Don't old guys complain about the loss of discipline and respect for tradition and authority? Do some guys or families not see the commission as authoritative and just ignore it? Does the commission still have the teeth to enforce its will anymore?

details?

I live in Baltimore, no gambinos here anymore just african americans.

One needs their heads examined if their goal is to be a made member in this day in age...they're begging to be cornholed in prison!

Don't listen to him. He started spreading rumors about the Gambino's 'Being alive and well in Cleveland' because Carmine Agnello (Who the Gambinos shelved) is living there lol, typical fan boy who lies, pathetic really.

Of course the New York families made members in 2013, they are on autopilot still I believe. When A member of one of the crime families dies, that family can induct another member but still has to confer with the other four families on the prospected member first. I do not know if they do that with retired members, but seeing how some families bring back retired members, I am incline to think that they do not induct another member for the retired member until those retired members die.

Tommy, you talk pretty strong bro. There's no reason for that. I'd bet my balls on Baltimore and Wilmington. Obviously u live in a bubble . Don't be a computer tough guy please.

Have u ever stepped foot over here tommy? U wouldn't know a wiseguy if he smacked u in the head n I'm sure if u came to bklyn w that attitude you'd get abused there mate. Nottingham England?? Sei staminchia

Luan, Boston n Rhode Island got their own thing. Really north of new haven n franklin ave in Hartford is all new England's territory. Ct has the genoveses n gambinos sharing ground w the remnants of the patriarca family. The colombos had a crew there but no more . Boston's Hanover street in the north end still has a lotta Sicilians . The north end neighborhood is legit. The guys in providence Rhode Island and boston make up the patriarcha family.
Philly always was their own family but they lost their seat on the commission years ago when scarfo was whacking so many guys. When uncle joe took over he helped them get their seat back. But even then the genoveses wanted to take that family over in a hostile takeover. Never happened. They got a few Sicilian zips so they stay tight w the gambinos which is run by the zip faction.
Chicago is their own thing altogether and any family or what's left of them in the Midwest clears a lot through Chicago.
The la family is an extension of the gambinos . Their underboss is a gambino who's related to the gambino administration in nyc.
For the most part, New York is the main power. Chicago n New York still work together . A lotta zips in Chicago by Harlem ave but these guys are Sicilian imports who are loosely affiliated w the outfit and heavily affiliated w nyc. They operate out there as their own thing.
Baltimore is all black except by the new stadium n little Italy. There's no real operation there but john gottis nephews have a restaurant in little Italy. Forgot the name. Think genes son. Not 100% on which gotti. But 100 percent Baltimore belongs to the gambinos in terms of Italian organized crime .

A lotta Sicilians on Hanover street in Boston... You sure you didn't mean Brazilians?

Computer tough guy? Because I called you on your bullshit, I never talk to anyone in a threatening manor over the internet or claim to be tough but nice try though.

Nope, never have been to the US. Why would I want to go to Brooklyn and secondly why would I get abused? Because I told a wiseguy fan boy who makes up lies to make his hero's look better on the internet to stop talking nonsense.

I've never claimed to be knowledgeable when it comes to LCN but your from Brooklyn and you don't even have a clue.

'The Gambino's are alive and well in Cleveland' You lost all your credibility right there.

dont get your knickers in twist over dis guy tommy, its pretty obvious by his "007" name that he wishes he was from England, it would be a pretty safe bet dat dis guy has never even stepped foot in Brooklyn.

What about that episode of The Wire where that Gambino crew tried to muscle in on that local dope spot?

there were no gambinos on the wire...

that sounds more like east boston than the north end lol. if anything the only people who are going to outnumber italians in the north end are YUPPIES.

im sure some younger guy from revere got made over the last few months up here in mass. there crew is legit. all they got to do is get the ok from limone. maybe a guy from rhode island. I think they also adapted to quick induction the Genovese do only like 3 or 4 guys including the 2 made guys and maybe the 2 getting made. I was surprised how philly creomony in 2007 had atleast 8 to 10 guy in the restaurant. the kid Anthony from springfield said when he got made in the Bronx they made him strip. 2 guys at the table 1 guy searching them and he said another guy was there getting made to. he didn't know but had to leave all there belongings wallet watch ect at a steakhouse. did the philly guy have to strip I didn't hear about that.

when if ever the maddona dinapoli trial starts in nj they have tapes of them talking about holding a induction ceromy at the perna's house were they made the kids. but crea wasn't there just capo's. I even think they had a roving bug outside the house but that trial is just a mess I think there was illegal shit going on.

With Ligambi being in jail, would Philly have made anyone in 2013?


Same with New England?


New York families would surely be guarded about making people with some many grasses about...

Good point.

Anyone have any info on this?

It's getting a joke. Right to a speedy trial my ass.

Actually, would it really be surprising that Wilmington, Delaware has mafia activity?

I mean, it's 45 minutes from Philadelphia and South Jersey. The city is still very blue collar as are the surrounding suburbs. Plus, it still has a lot of ethnic whites.

Maybe there isn't an organized crew or anything from any family, but there are probably guys that have shy and book customers from there.

Not surprising at all.

It depends on how you define the Commission. Apparently Massino didn't consider the meeting between the five NY families in 2000, which he chaired, as a Commission meeting. Maybe he felt it had to be the official bosses of all the families. Before that, of course, you had the bosses of the Genovese, Gambino, and Lucchese families meet in the late 1980's but the Colombos and Bonannos weren't respresented.



Even if the Commission were still functioning, there wouldn't be much for the Genovese to represent. No reason to for families like Buffalo, Pittsburgh, or Cleveland. There are still ties between the NY families and smaller families remaining in New Jersey, New England, and Philadelphia but more on an ad-hoc basis.

I think after nicky skins recored the boston guy and philly guys shit might have got strained. I think the philly guys wanted to trust the Gambinos cause look at how the Genovese have been just fucking with them since the Bruno hit?then the plot to kill uncle and the other 2 and the luchese are very tight with them. the boston guys always had a screwed up relation with the springfield crew cause they would encroach on turfs, and I think the boston guys had to get the ok from the Genovese to kill billy grasso there underboss. someone in ny said yes and the Genovese weren't mad he was out there picture in ct. ralph deleo had some Gambino working contrusction in boston and got the ok from limone or Anthony whoever. Gambino guy was a pleasant ave guy big herion must have done tons of time with deleo. that was just like 2 yrs ago.

chicago pretty much has always did whatever they wanted