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Posted By: FriedRavioliFarts

Chicago and Rockford - 01/14/14 01:32 AM



There have been some posts in previous threads about The Outfit and Rockford. Some guys from the EP crew are now free agents hanging out in Rockford? Maybe I read it wrong, but is there any additional info on that?
Posted By: Mmalioni

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/14/14 01:35 AM

This is highly unlikely for the sheer fact that most people from Chicagoland (Chicago suburbs) would ever willingly relocate to, or conduct all of their business/social life, in Rockford. Regardless of any Outfit or non Outfit reason, Chicagoans would not shift their lives to Rockford.

It would make more sense to join 26th St. or Cicero than to join Rockford. Outside of Illinois, who really knows of Rockford anyway?
Posted By: TheArm

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/14/14 04:42 PM


There have been some posts in previous threads about The Outfit and Rockford. Some guys from the EP crew are now free agents hanging out in Rockford? Maybe I read it wrong, but is there any additional info on that?


It is absolutely true. Anyone who doubts that, stop by the St Ambrosio society in Rockford anytime they have a public event, and see who is there, and observe the subtle hiarchey. The outfits misfortune has been Rockford’s gain. There are guys in the North and Northwest burbs, many from Pooch’s old crew who never got made in the outfit who have found a way to earn in Rockford. From the massive construction on the west side, to getting the Underwood and Winnebago street smack dealers in line, the family ( and make no mistake, it has always been a separate family) is in the middle of a resurgence





































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































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Originally Posted By: FriedRavioliFarts


There have been some posts in previous threads about The Outfit and Rockford. Some guys from the EP crew are now free agents hanging out in Rockford? Maybe I read it wrong, but is there any additional info on that?
Originally Posted By: FriedRavioliFarts


There have been some posts in previous threads about The Outfit and Rockford. Some guys from the EP crew are now free agents hanging out in Rockford? Maybe I read it wrong, but is there any additional info on that?
Originally Posted By: FriedRavioliFarts


There have been some posts in previous threads about The Outfit and Rockford. Some guys from the EP crew are now free agents hanging out in Rockford? Maybe I read it wrong, but is there any additional info on that?
Posted By: TheArm

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/14/14 04:44 PM



It is absolutely true. Anyone who doubts that, stop by the St Ambrosio society in Rockford anytime they have a public event, and see who is there, and observe the subtle hiarchey. The outfits misfortune has been Rockford’s gain. There are guys in the North and Northwest burbs, many from Pooch’s old crew who never got made in the outfit who have found a way to earn in Rockford. From the massive construction on the west side, to getting the Underwood and Winnebago street smack dealers in line, the family ( and make no mistake, it has always been a separate family) is in the middle of a resurgence
Posted By: ChiTown

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/14/14 07:58 PM

Arm are you from Buffalo or Rockford or what? If you were from Buffalo, what is your connection to Chicago? Unless you are just an internet name dropper with a fake persona.

Joe Passucci never had a "crew" outside of Mary Daddono and his girlfriends. The guy was also an informant in the early 80s and that is exactly why no one in Chicago has given him the time of day in 30 + years.
Posted By: HuronSocialAthletic

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/15/14 04:34 AM

Originally Posted By: Mmalioni
This is highly unlikely for the sheer fact that most people from Chicagoland (Chicago suburbs) would ever willingly relocate to, or conduct all of their business/social life, in Rockford. Regardless of any Outfit or non Outfit reason, Chicagoans would not shift their lives to Rockford.

It would make more sense to join 26th St. or Cicero than to join Rockford. Outside of Illinois, who really knows of Rockford anyway?


That isn't how the Mafia works. If there's action to be had in Rockford (which there certainly is), then gangsters will flock to the light. It doesn't matter whether or not Rockford is a fashionable destination. If there's more action/profit to be had up that way than down in Chinatown/Cicero, then they will certainly head that way.

Do you think Philly/Lucchese guys want to relocate & do business in a boring toiletbowl like Jersey? Of course not, but beggars can't be choosers.
Posted By: TheArm

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/17/14 05:20 PM

Originally Posted By: ChiTown
Arm are you from Buffalo or Rockford or what? If you were from Buffalo, what is your connection to Chicago? Unless you are just an internet name dropper with a fake persona.

Joe Passucci never had a "crew" outside of Mary Daddono and his girlfriends. The guy was also an informant in the early 80s and that is exactly why no one in Chicago has given him the time of day in 30 + years.



I was born in Brooklyn, raised in Upstate NY and now live in Cook County. My connection with Chicago is that I have immediate family who were Buffalo made and LIUNA connected on both sides, so my name and my Mothers maiden name carries recognician and respect just about everywhere, including Chicago and Rockford. So I know of which I speak.
As for Joe Pooch, he sure as the hell did have a crew and they kicked up to Melrose Park. As for he being an informent, I would be very careful before making an accusation like that. Yes, after his last arrest he professed a "come to Jesus" moment for which he should have won an Oscar, but he flipped on NO one.
Posted By: NinoSconza

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/17/14 06:23 PM

Originally Posted By: TheArm
Originally Posted By: ChiTown
Arm are you from Buffalo or Rockford or what? If you were from Buffalo, what is your connection to Chicago? Unless you are just an internet name dropper with a fake persona.

Joe Passucci never had a "crew" outside of Mary Daddono and his girlfriends. The guy was also an informant in the early 80s and that is exactly why no one in Chicago has given him the time of day in 30 + years.



I was born in Brooklyn, raised in Upstate NY and now live in Cook County. My connection with Chicago is that I have immediate family who were Buffalo made and LIUNA connected on both sides, so my name and my Mothers maiden name carries recognician and respect just about everywhere, including Chicago and Rockford. So I know of which I speak.
As for Joe Pooch, he sure as the hell did have a crew and they kicked up to Melrose Park. As for he being an informent, I would be very careful before making an accusation like that. Yes, after his last arrest he professed a "come to Jesus" moment for which he should have won an Oscar, but he flipped on NO one.


You should win an Oscar for all these stories you come up with.
Posted By: TheArm

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/17/14 06:33 PM

Originally Posted By: NinoSconza
Originally Posted By: TheArm
Originally Posted By: ChiTown
Arm are you from Buffalo or Rockford or what? If you were from Buffalo, what is your connection to Chicago? Unless you are just an internet name dropper with a fake persona.

Joe Passucci never had a "crew" outside of Mary Daddono and his girlfriends. The guy was also an informant in the early 80s and that is exactly why no one in Chicago has given him the time of day in 30 + years.



I was born in Brooklyn, raised in Upstate NY and now live in Cook County. My connection with Chicago is that I have immediate family who were Buffalo made and LIUNA connected on both sides, so my name and my Mothers maiden name carries recognician and respect just about everywhere, including Chicago and Rockford. So I know of which I speak.
As for Joe Pooch, he sure as the hell did have a crew and they kicked up to Melrose Park. As for he being an informent, I would be very careful before making an accusation like that. Yes, after his last arrest he professed a "come to Jesus" moment for which he should have won an Oscar, but he flipped on NO one.


You should win an Oscar for all these stories you come up with.


All verifiable son, just STFU, listen and learn, and tell your Mom I said hi.
Posted By: ChiTown

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/17/14 07:33 PM

Originally Posted By: TheArm
Originally Posted By: ChiTown
Arm are you from Buffalo or Rockford or what? If you were from Buffalo, what is your connection to Chicago? Unless you are just an internet name dropper with a fake persona.

Joe Passucci never had a "crew" outside of Mary Daddono and his girlfriends. The guy was also an informant in the early 80s and that is exactly why no one in Chicago has given him the time of day in 30 + years.



I was born in Brooklyn, raised in Upstate NY and now live in Cook County. My connection with Chicago is that I have immediate family who were Buffalo made and LIUNA connected on both sides, so my name and my Mothers maiden name carries recognician and respect just about everywhere, including Chicago and Rockford. So I know of which I speak.
As for Joe Pooch, he sure as the hell did have a crew and they kicked up to Melrose Park. As for he being an informent, I would be very careful before making an accusation like that. Yes, after his last arrest he professed a "come to Jesus" moment for which he should have won an Oscar, but he flipped on NO one.


lol just another wannabe. Here is some advice: at least research the shit you lie about.

Joe Pooch was a small time bookmaker who mainly worked for Dominic Basso. It was the brother Mike who did the juice loans and bankrolled all of the operations. Both Pascucci's worked for the Ferriola Cicero crew, not Melrose Park. When that crew--guys like Infelise and DeLaurentis--went to trial, Joe Pooch was called as a witness since he was paying street tax. Other guys called to testify--guys like Chuckie Cesario and Tony Petranella--they all asserted their 5th amendment and did months in prison on contempt. Not Joe Pooch however and from what I hear, most walked away from the guy.
Posted By: ChiTown

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/17/14 07:35 PM

Joe Pooch was never made...far from it. If anyone would have been considered, it would have been his brother, but I don't even think he was. No one who worked for Joe Pooch was anything aside from a humble bookmaker. Most of those guys in what you call "crew" (what most would call small book) are in their 80s, just like Pooch.

They are not in fucking Rockford unfortunately smile
Posted By: Mmalioni

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/17/14 09:38 PM

Was Basso part of Ferriola's Crew? I know he lived right by Ferriola in Long Grove, Hawthorn Woods, Kildeer area.
Posted By: funkster

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/17/14 10:08 PM

Basso went away for awhile on Cooleys testimony didn't he?
Posted By: ChiTown

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/17/14 10:17 PM

Originally Posted By: funkster
Basso went away for awhile on Cooleys testimony didn't he?


Basso was Cooley's bookie. He also had Michael "Jaws" Giorango and Mike Zitello working for him.
Posted By: TheArm

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/20/14 09:53 PM

Originally Posted By: ChiTown
Joe Pooch was never made...far from it. If anyone would have been considered, it would have been his brother, but I don't even think he was. No one who worked for Joe Pooch was anything aside from a humble bookmaker. Most of those guys in what you call "crew" (what most would call small book) are in their 80s, just like Pooch.

They are not in fucking Rockford unfortunately smile


You are correct on a little and dead wriong on a LOT. Joe Pooch was not made, but like may associates in the outfit and virtually every family, associates had crews who kicked up to made guys, such was the case with the crew from the tow shop on Milwaukee Ave, Pooche's crew.
I can NOT beleive you mentioned Infelise and DeLaurentis, Bwhahahahah, those wannabes have NOTHING to do with this discussion. Two dopes who shook down Lingerie shows and sold porn from their trunk
Again, you want to find the guys who used to hang out at the shop and the old Palwaukee motor inn and the Hanger, and collected juice from lake county to Rosemont and from Milwaukee avenue to Il53 who kicked up to Elmwood park? Go to the Saint Ambrosia society in Rockford on any weekend, and watch and learn.Tell em I sent you.
Congrats BTW for not repeating your BS claim Joe was an informant, it was really too ignorant to even say the first time. "What you hear" is laughable Bullshit, please get informed before you reply to me again, I have no patiance for punk ass frauds who know shit...like you
Posted By: TheArm

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/20/14 10:00 PM

Originally Posted By: funkster
Basso went away for awhile on Cooleys testimony didn't he?


Basso was a nobody, strictly small potatoes. Don'y bother listening to name dropping fakes like chi town, they fill your head with bar stool wannabe bullshitand busshit from other internet sites written by other fakes.
thats why I come on these sites, to bitch slap the fakes and try to keep it real and inform those who are really intersted in learning something
Posted By: Mmalioni

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/21/14 01:51 AM

This is getting absurd. Inendino and DeLaurentis are not nobodys. They are likely in the Outfit Admin.

Basso was a heavy with Cicero. He was also very wealthy.
Posted By: Snakes

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/21/14 02:04 AM

Maybe TheArm can tell us who the guys in Fosco's "mystery pic" are...
Posted By: ChiTown

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/21/14 03:29 PM

lol I think the Arm is Tony Accardo reincarnated.
Posted By: TheArm

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/22/14 04:45 PM

Originally Posted By: Mmalioni
This is getting absurd. Inendino and DeLaurentis are not nobodys. They are likely in the Outfit Admin.

Basso was a heavy with Cicero. He was also very wealthy.


Inendino and DeLaurentis ran for coffee, and Basso is wealthy becuse he was a better than average bookmaker, and comes from old money.
Posted By: funkster

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/22/14 04:48 PM

I'd think being a part of the Wild Bunch was nothing to sneeze at.
Posted By: TheArm

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/22/14 04:50 PM

Originally Posted By: TheArm
[quote=Mmalioni]This is getting absurd. Inendino and DeLaurentis are not nobodys. They are likely in the Outfit Admin.

Basso was a heavy with Cicero. He was also very wealthy.


Inendino and DeLaurentis are dime a dozen mid level guys who chase nickes and dimes,and the notion that they are 'administration" is laughable. These guys used hold court in the old "Hangar" on Palatine express and Milwaukee avenue playing bigshot and impressing the suburban wannabes.
Basso is wealthy becuse he was a better than average bookmaker, and comes from old money. NO ONE connected any more than half assed association "worked fr him"...least of all Joe Pooch
Posted By: ChiTown

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/22/14 07:20 PM

Just ignore this guy I'm sure he will be banned soon (or his Mom will come downstairs and see he is on the computer.)

Basso was booking Pete Rose. Pooch must have been booking Arm's mother.
Posted By: TheArm

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/22/14 08:14 PM

Originally Posted By: ChiTown
Just ignore this guy I'm sure he will be banned soon (or his Mom will come downstairs and see he is on the computer.)

Basso was booking Pete Rose. Pooch must have been booking Arm's mother.


Son..I have already told you the facts, exposed you as a fake who transposes posts from the internet and claims to have inside knowledge, and shown how much you don't know...don't embarass yourself.
I think you not knowing about the Elmwood park/Russian connection was the thing that most exposed you as a wannabe...but there were some other really pathetic attempts at you trying to BS your way through as well
Posted By: NickyEyes1

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/23/14 01:09 AM

Originally Posted By: TheArm


Inendino and DeLaurentis are dime a dozen mid level guys who chase nickes and dimes

Yeah, right lol
Posted By: Snakes

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/23/14 02:24 AM

I'm telling you, we gotta show TheArm Fosco's picture, he would probably know all of them
Posted By: Mmalioni

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/23/14 03:03 AM

Arm- Who are the #s 1, 2 and 3 in the Outfit now?
Posted By: ChiTown

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/23/14 04:08 PM

Originally Posted By: Snakes
I'm telling you, we gotta show TheArm Fosco's picture, he would probably know all of them


The Arm is in that photo..next to JB. The guy is immortal...there can be only one.
Posted By: TheArm

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/23/14 06:30 PM

Originally Posted By: ChiTown
Originally Posted By: Snakes
I'm telling you, we gotta show TheArm Fosco's picture, he would probably know all of them


The Arm is in that photo..next to JB. The guy is immortal...there can be only one.


I exposed you as a fake son...stop embarassing yourslf
Posted By: cookcounty

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/23/14 06:41 PM

@ thearm


i sent you a PM concerning a matter i'm interested in involving rosemont/cchills
Posted By: TheArm

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/23/14 07:10 PM

Originally Posted By: cookcounty
@ thearm


i sent you a PM concerning a matter i'm interested in involving rosemont/cchills


Answered it in the other thread.....
Posted By: FriedRavioliFarts

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/23/14 11:12 PM



Arm,

How can you call DeLaurentis and Inendino nickel and dime guys? They have made fortunes and invested it wisely.
Posted By: ChiTown

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/23/14 11:45 PM

Originally Posted By: TheArm
Originally Posted By: ChiTown
Originally Posted By: Snakes
I'm telling you, we gotta show TheArm Fosco's picture, he would probably know all of them


The Arm is in that photo..next to JB. The guy is immortal...there can be only one.


I exposed you as a fake son...stop embarassing yourslf


A fake what exactly? A fake anonymous online internet poster? lol how many 40-50 something union reps use the word "son." At least try and talk the part...If you guys continue to engage this jackass, you are just wasting time.
Posted By: HairyKnuckles

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/24/14 08:56 AM

Originally Posted By: Mmalioni
Arm- Who are the #s 1, 2 and 3 in the Outfit now?


Just go to that Rockford club/bar TheArm has referred to multiple times and ask the guys in there. Tell them "TheArm" sent you. They´ll probably say "Oh...TheArm, yeah that´s the guy who disco danced the Colombos out of Utica and Bretti straight into prison." lol
Posted By: TheArm

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/24/14 05:50 PM

Originally Posted By: ChiTown
Originally Posted By: TheArm
Originally Posted By: ChiTown
Originally Posted By: Snakes
I'm telling you, we gotta show TheArm Fosco's picture, he would probably know all of them


The Arm is in that photo..next to JB. The guy is immortal...there can be only one.


I exposed you as a fake son...stop embarassing yourslf


A fake what exactly? A fake anonymous online internet poster? lol how many 40-50 something union reps use the word "son." At least try and talk the part...If you guys continue to engage this jackass, you are just wasting time.


You are a FAKE Chi town, because you regurgitate inaccurate incorrect information and try to pass it off as first hand knowledge. I had to laugh at your comments about the guys from the NW Burbs, because I wasn’t joking when I told you I have heard the same things from “kids” talking shit at bars pretending they know what they are talking about. The idea that anyone “answered to or reported to” Basso is beyond laughable. Basso was born on second base and thinks he hit a double. A Bookie who paid juice just like all the rest. The Kicker was when you had no idea about the Russian/Elmwood park connection. Anyone who actually knows tit from twat about what goes on in Cook County know this, but you can’t find it widely reported in the news or on the internet. Son,you are a kid who is interested outfit scuttlebutt, and that’s fine. But when you try to present wannabe myth and internet rumor as first hand inside knowledge, you just look foolish…You want accurate info, listen to people like me who actually know what we are talking about
Posted By: jonnynonos

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/24/14 08:37 PM

Originally Posted By: TheArm
You want accurate info, listen to people like me who actually know what we are talking about


I might have missed it in another thread, but what exactly is your source?

That is the problem with guys who come in here acting like they just got off the phone with Mike Sarno.

And of course I don't mean specific names, I just mean say something like: "My uncle was heavily involved and so were several former friends etc."

There is really no point in spouting off a bunch of info unless people at least have some inkling of where it's coming from.
Posted By: thebigfella

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/25/14 11:38 AM

http://www.reocities.com/ocsmidwestmafia/rockford.html
Posted By: Snakes

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/25/14 01:46 PM

A site about the mob would accept Bitcoin lol
Posted By: TheArm

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/27/14 02:22 PM

Originally Posted By: jonnynonos
Originally Posted By: TheArm
You want accurate info, listen to people like me who actually know what we are talking about


I might have missed it in another thread, but what exactly is your source?

That is the problem with guys who come in here acting like they just got off the phone with Mike Sarno.

And of course I don't mean specific names, I just mean say something like: "My uncle was heavily involved and so were several former friends etc."

There is really no point in spouting off a bunch of info unless people at least have some inkling of where it's coming from.



My Grandfather was with Joe Mararia, My father, and 3 uncles were either made guys or associates in the Buffalo family. I was a Buffalo associate from 1978 till 1990, and did 14 momth in Federal prison, which could have been life under RICO were it not for some bad searches. I asked permission and was granted permission to move, walk away but always remember promises I made to friends, and I have never broken them. I got the go ahead becuse even when I was looking at dying in prison, I never flipped. If you notice, my references to anyone active are cryptic and vague intentionally. I now live in Cook County IL and needless to say the first thing I did whan I got here (not that I had a choice) was introduce myself to the right people in Chicago, Rockford and what is left in Milwaukee.
So my "Sources" are a LIFETIME in and around the life and people and things I see every day.
Posted By: ChiTown

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/27/14 02:40 PM

Originally Posted By: TheArm
Originally Posted By: jonnynonos
Originally Posted By: TheArm
You want accurate info, listen to people like me who actually know what we are talking about


I might have missed it in another thread, but what exactly is your source?

That is the problem with guys who come in here acting like they just got off the phone with Mike Sarno.

And of course I don't mean specific names, I just mean say something like: "My uncle was heavily involved and so were several former friends etc."

There is really no point in spouting off a bunch of info unless people at least have some inkling of where it's coming from.



My Grandfather was with Joe Mararia, My father, and 3 uncles were either made guys or associates in the Buffalo family. I was a Buffalo associate from 1978 till 1990, and did 14 momth in Federal prison, which could have been life under RICO were it not for some bad searches. I asked permission and was granted permission to move, walk away but always remember promises I made to friends, and I have never broken them. I got the go ahead becuse even when I was looking at dying in prison, I never flipped. If you notice, my references to anyone active are cryptic and vague intentionally. I now live in Cook County IL and needless to say the first thing I did whan I got here (not that I had a choice) was introduce myself to the right people in Chicago, Rockford and what is left in Milwaukee.
So my "Sources" are a LIFETIME in and around the life and people and things I see every day.


Why don't you tell us the Chicago Outfit boss who had multiple familial connections to Buffalo? You would have known him if you were around this city in the 1990s.
Posted By: TheArm

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/27/14 04:20 PM

Originally Posted By: ChiTown
Originally Posted By: TheArm
Originally Posted By: jonnynonos
Originally Posted By: TheArm
You want accurate info, listen to people like me who actually know what we are talking about


I might have missed it in another thread, but what exactly is your source?

That is the problem with guys who come in here acting like they just got off the phone with Mike Sarno.

And of course I don't mean specific names, I just mean say something like: "My uncle was heavily involved and so were several former friends etc."

There is really no point in spouting off a bunch of info unless people at least have some inkling of where it's coming from.



My Grandfather was with Joe Mararia, My father, and 3 uncles were either made guys or associates in the Buffalo family. I was a Buffalo associate from 1978 till 1990, and did 14 momth in Federal prison, which could have been life under RICO were it not for some bad searches. I asked permission and was granted permission to move, walk away but always remember promises I made to friends, and I have never broken them. I got the go ahead becuse even when I was looking at dying in prison, I never flipped. If you notice, my references to anyone active are cryptic and vague intentionally. I now live in Cook County IL and needless to say the first thing I did whan I got here (not that I had a choice) was introduce myself to the right people in Chicago, Rockford and what is left in Milwaukee.
So my "Sources" are a LIFETIME in and around the life and people and things I see every day.


Why don't you tell us the Chicago Outfit boss who had multiple familial connections to Buffalo? You would have known him if you were around this city in the 1990s.


As usual son, just by the way you posed the question, it proves how clueless you are.
We've been over this right?
A punk like you quizzing me is a joke...and I've already exposed you as the fake you are....by ye son...the next click you hear will be me shit canning you to the mental ward of the ignored
Posted By: ChiTown

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/27/14 04:36 PM

So the answer is no...you don't know his name and really can't prove anything beyond what you claim lol.

This Outfit boss had multiple nephews expelled from Buffalo unions...he had numerous siblings living in that city and if you were anything you claim, you would know the guy.

lol again you are a 13 yo kid.
Posted By: TheArm

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/27/14 04:42 PM

Originally Posted By: ChiTown
So the answer is no...you don't know his name and really can't prove anything beyond what you claim lol.

This Outfit boss had multiple nephews expelled from Buffalo unions...he had numerous siblings living in that city and if you were anything you claim, you would know the guy.

lol again you are a 13 yo kid.


I do know the guy, in fact everyone knows the guy because like all you bullhit, anyone can find it on wikipedia or on any number 0f sites on the internet.
Son...I exposed you as a fake, chime in when you comeoup with something not transposed as a cut and paste...till then, you just anther wannabe fake...you will be on ignore from this point on son...so feel free to talk to yourself, becuse no one that matters cares what you say.
Posted By: Snakes

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/27/14 04:48 PM

Edit: Sorry, got my Rockford threads mixed up.
Posted By: TheArm

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/27/14 04:57 PM

Originally Posted By: Snakes
Gumba could have read to sick kids and old people in hospitals in his spare time... but that still doesn't do away with the fact that he had some very serious allegations leveled against him before he died. Obviously, he was never convicted of them in this world but he was implicated in several murders by a guy who from most accounts was a very credible witness. These guys have to live double lives - it's all a part of the game. Maybe he fooled all of those firefighters and old ladies in the neighborhood, but if you are as connected as you say you are, you should have been able to see through that charade.


moved to the correct thread
Posted By: ChiTown

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/27/14 05:29 PM

Originally Posted By: TheArm
Originally Posted By: ChiTown
So the answer is no...you don't know his name and really can't prove anything beyond what you claim lol.

This Outfit boss had multiple nephews expelled from Buffalo unions...he had numerous siblings living in that city and if you were anything you claim, you would know the guy.

lol again you are a 13 yo kid.


I do know the guy, in fact everyone knows the guy because like all you bullhit, anyone can find it on wikipedia or on any number 0f sites on the internet.
Son...I exposed you as a fake, chime in when you comeoup with something not transposed as a cut and paste...till then, you just anther wannabe fake...you will be on ignore from this point on son...so feel free to talk to yourself, becuse no one that matters cares what you say.


So just name him for me if its so obvious. Then name his nephews. Both were kicked out of of LIUNA Local 210 in Buffalo.

Come on big guy...I know you are googling frantically...just take a guess.
Posted By: cookcounty

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/27/14 06:29 PM

@chitown


not to add fuel to the fire but the arm knows some shit
Posted By: TheArm

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/27/14 06:40 PM

Originally Posted By: cookcounty
@chitown


not to add fuel to the fire but the arm knows some shit


Thanks CC,,,,I finally had to put this kid on ignore, his stalking me with incessant instant messages and in the forums stopped being entertaining and became creepy.I embarassed him showing how little he knew and his butt is sore...in time he'll get over it. I let him off the hook by ignoring him
Posted By: jonnynonos

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/27/14 07:49 PM

Originally Posted By: TheArm
Originally Posted By: jonnynonos
Originally Posted By: TheArm
You want accurate info, listen to people like me who actually know what we are talking about


I might have missed it in another thread, but what exactly is your source?

That is the problem with guys who come in here acting like they just got off the phone with Mike Sarno.

And of course I don't mean specific names, I just mean say something like: "My uncle was heavily involved and so were several former friends etc."

There is really no point in spouting off a bunch of info unless people at least have some inkling of where it's coming from.



My Grandfather was with Joe Mararia, My father, and 3 uncles were either made guys or associates in the Buffalo family. I was a Buffalo associate from 1978 till 1990, and did 14 momth in Federal prison, which could have been life under RICO were it not for some bad searches. I asked permission and was granted permission to move, walk away but always remember promises I made to friends, and I have never broken them. I got the go ahead becuse even when I was looking at dying in prison, I never flipped. If you notice, my references to anyone active are cryptic and vague intentionally. I now live in Cook County IL and needless to say the first thing I did whan I got here (not that I had a choice) was introduce myself to the right people in Chicago, Rockford and what is left in Milwaukee.
So my "Sources" are a LIFETIME in and around the life and people and things I see every day.


Thanks for the answer.

I am curious as to your response to this question posted to you above:

"Arm,

How can you call DeLaurentis and Inendino nickel and dime guys? They have made fortunes and invested it wisely."

***

I don't know about their investments, but it would seem they are probably very high up in the echelon of what remains of the Chicago mob these days.
Posted By: TheArm

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/27/14 08:14 PM

Originally Posted By: jonnynonos
Originally Posted By: TheArm
Originally Posted By: jonnynonos
Originally Posted By: TheArm
You want accurate info, listen to people like me who actually know what we are talking about


I might have missed it in another thread, but what exactly is your source?

That is the problem with guys who come in here acting like they just got off the phone with Mike Sarno.

And of course I don't mean specific names, I just mean say something like: "My uncle was heavily involved and so were several former friends etc."

There is really no point in spouting off a bunch of info unless people at least have some inkling of where it's coming from.



My Grandfather was with Joe Mararia, My father, and 3 uncles were either made guys or associates in the Buffalo family. I was a Buffalo associate from 1978 till 1990, and did 14 momth in Federal prison, which could have been life under RICO were it not for some bad searches. I asked permission and was granted permission to move, walk away but always remember promises I made to friends, and I have never broken them. I got the go ahead becuse even when I was looking at dying in prison, I never flipped. If you notice, my references to anyone active are cryptic and vague intentionally. I now live in Cook County IL and needless to say the first thing I did whan I got here (not that I had a choice) was introduce myself to the right people in Chicago, Rockford and what is left in Milwaukee.
So my "Sources" are a LIFETIME in and around the life and people and things I see every day.


Thanks for the answer.

I am curious as to your response to this question posted to you above:

"Arm,

How can you call DeLaurentis and Inendino nickel and dime guys? They have made fortunes and invested it wisely."

***

I don't know about their investments, but it would seem they are probably very high up in the echelon of what remains of the Chicago mob these days.



What I meant was, that most of their fortunes were made in legit transactions, I honestly never understood why either of them felt a need to shake down guys who sold Porno out of their trunks and promotors of Lingerie shows, and hang out in lowbrow joints like the old "Hangar" that bar in the west loop (The name escapes me, it kitty corner from Burger Barron) I'm not just spreading rumors, I saw it with my own eyes. This is what I meant by nickels and dimes.
If they are indeed in the upper echelon of the outifit, and I personally have seen nothing to indicate that, In suspect they are so by default...just my take
Posted By: jonnynonos

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/27/14 08:26 PM

I think the thinking w/ them being on top is that Cicero/26th is the only real active crew left and with Marcello and Sarno gone, they are up there.

The south side crews have always been known as more blue collar.

IMO you are not too far off in terms of nickle and dime stuff... I think that is what the Outfit has been reduced to.

Look at the evidence from Family Secrets... the takes from the poker machines were very low, and, yeah, at busted up old Chicago places... Frank Calabrese's juice operation was largely loaning a few hundred bucks at a time to Connie's Pizza delivery guys.
Posted By: Snakes

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/27/14 09:14 PM

Inendino is South Side, right? I suspect he is at the very least street boss or #2 for Caruso. Solly D may be running Cicero now. Not sure about Pudge. Just speculation on my part.
Posted By: NickyEyes1

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/27/14 09:45 PM

Originally Posted By: Snakes
Inendino is South Side, right? I suspect he is at the very least street boss or #2 for Caruso. Solly D may be running Cicero now. Not sure about Pudge. Just speculation on my part.

Inendino is Cicero.
Posted By: cookcounty

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/28/14 12:34 AM

@johnynonose

the chicago mob operates in the south suburbs as well

those poker machines were in some of the strangest places (when they were illegal)

they probably make even more money off the poker racket now that it's legal
Posted By: FriedRavioliFarts

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/28/14 01:10 AM



Arm,

Thanks for the info much appreciated. What about D'Amico/Elmwood Park gambling and real estate interest in Rockford? Also does Rockford maintain a link with Chinatown still?

How much OC is going on up in Milwaukee? Isn't there a big golf outing every year? Didn't Chicago absorb gambling up there under Monteleone and 26th?
Posted By: TheArm

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/28/14 05:48 PM

Originally Posted By: FriedRavioliFarts


Arm,

Thanks for the info much appreciated. What about D'Amico/Elmwood Park gambling and real estate interest in Rockford? Also does Rockford maintain a link with Chinatown still?

How much OC is going on up in Milwaukee? Isn't there a big golf outing every year? Didn't Chicago absorb gambling up there under Monteleone and 26th?



A LOT has gone on in the past few years.
What is left of Elmwood park and the Rockford family are making a killing on legit and semi real estate deals on the west side.
If you go by and see the construction around W State east of Maridian road,everyone from the trucks to the heavy equipment to the dumpsters down to the porta-potties had to present "performence bonds" to get the contracts. This in addition to the "dumping" of proerties after they have been gutted of all the copper and the ongoing slum lording. You have huge single family houses on and just off West State that sold for 35K, have been subdivided 6 ways and rented for $650 a month, it's a great racket.
As for Chinatown not sure there is much left to keep a connection with.
Milwaukee is struggling but still alive, and both Riockford and Chicago have taken some of that action.
Posted By: ChiTown

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/28/14 06:26 PM

Chinatown is still a very strong crew with a huge presence in Chicago. In fact, I'd argue it is a dominant crew since merging with Cicero and expanding video poker machines throughout the southland. Casey S was a cash cow. The Caruso brothers still run that crew, but do report in through Cicero. If I had to guess, I would assume they are reporting to Inendino, who lives near Leomont/Darien area near both Carusos.

I would doubt they have anything to do with Rockford.
Posted By: TheArm

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/28/14 06:47 PM

I should also mention, the real estate holdings in Loves park as well
Posted By: jonnynonos

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/28/14 08:24 PM

Originally Posted By: ChiTown
Chinatown is still a very strong crew with a huge presence in Chicago. In fact, I'd argue it is a dominant crew since merging with Cicero and expanding video poker machines throughout the southland. Casey S was a cash cow. The Caruso brothers still run that crew, but do report in through Cicero. If I had to guess, I would assume they are reporting to Inendino, who lives near Leomont/Darien area near both Carusos.

I would doubt they have anything to do with Rockford.


Thought the Carusos were Bridgeport people.

Hell it was his kid who beat that poor black kid up so badly years ago.

Did they move out?
Posted By: Snakes

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/28/14 08:41 PM

Originally Posted By: ChiTown
The Caruso brothers still run that crew, but do report in through Cicero. If I had to guess, I would assume they are reporting to Inendino, who lives near Leomont/Darien area near both Carusos.


This is what made me think that Inendino was in South Side. I had heard that the South Side guys were now reporting to Cicero and that Inendino was the capo of the Cicero guys with Caruso as #2.
Posted By: ChiTown

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/28/14 09:41 PM

Originally Posted By: jonnynonos
Originally Posted By: ChiTown
Chinatown is still a very strong crew with a huge presence in Chicago. In fact, I'd argue it is a dominant crew since merging with Cicero and expanding video poker machines throughout the southland. Casey S was a cash cow. The Caruso brothers still run that crew, but do report in through Cicero. If I had to guess, I would assume they are reporting to Inendino, who lives near Leomont/Darien area near both Carusos.

I would doubt they have anything to do with Rockford.


Thought the Carusos were Bridgeport people.

Hell it was his kid who beat that poor black kid up so badly years ago.

Did they move out?


The Caruso clan largely left Bridgeport after the Leonard Clark beating in the late 90s. Most Outfit guys live outside the city and far from their Grand Avenue or Bridgeport or Cicero haunts.
Posted By: jonnynonos

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/28/14 09:59 PM

Ah, I know that about guys generally living outside the city, but I thought they were still down there.

Lombardo of course was the exception.
Posted By: ChiTown

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/28/14 10:38 PM

Originally Posted By: jonnynonos
Ah, I know that about guys generally living outside the city, but I thought they were still down there.

Lombardo of course was the exception.


Actually a lot of the Grand Avenue guys still reside in the neighborhood. Bobby Dominic, Phil Cozzo, Christy Spina, etc.
Posted By: NickyEyes1

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/28/14 11:34 PM

There are still some living in Bridgeport today.
Posted By: FriedRavioliFarts

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/28/14 11:52 PM



ChiTown,

Wasn't Frank Saladino in the 26th Street under Calabrese Sr? After he passed I was just curious if there was any link between that crew and Rockford anymore.
Posted By: Mmalioni

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/29/14 03:48 AM

I believe the Carusos live in the Darien/Lemont area correct?

We always hear about the untouchable Caruso crew?

Other than Leo, Bruno Frank and maybe Frank Jr., who else is in that crew?

I've never heard anyone else having been mentioned as part of that crew.
Posted By: TheArm

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/29/14 05:21 PM

Originally Posted By: FriedRavioliFarts


ChiTown,

Wasn't Frank Saladino in the 26th Street under Calabrese Sr? After he passed I was just curious if there was any link between that crew and Rockford anymore.



Frank Saladino was Rockford, not Outfit
Posted By: thebigfella

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/29/14 05:45 PM

Frank was the boss of rockford, rockford was the outfits farm system
Posted By: jonnynonos

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/29/14 05:46 PM

Originally Posted By: TheArm
Originally Posted By: FriedRavioliFarts


ChiTown,

Wasn't Frank Saladino in the 26th Street under Calabrese Sr? After he passed I was just curious if there was any link between that crew and Rockford anymore.



Frank Saladino was Rockford, not Outfit


Wasn't he the 400 pound guy who used to kill people with the Calbreses.

That's what was said at FS.
Posted By: ChiTown

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/29/14 06:53 PM

Originally Posted By: TheArm
Originally Posted By: FriedRavioliFarts


ChiTown,

Wasn't Frank Saladino in the 26th Street under Calabrese Sr? After he passed I was just curious if there was any link between that crew and Rockford anymore.



Frank Saladino was Rockford, not Outfit


The Outfit frequently used soldiers from Rockford, Kansas City, Cleveland and Milwaukee...all families they dominated. Saladino did time in the early 1980s for a burglary ring that was centered in Bridgeport I believe, correct?

Posted By: jonnynonos

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/29/14 07:05 PM

He died in a hotel room right before he was to be arrested for Family Secrets.
Posted By: ChiTown

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/29/14 07:31 PM

Originally Posted By: Mmalioni
I believe the Carusos live in the Darien/Lemont area correct?

We always hear about the untouchable Caruso crew?

Other than Leo, Bruno Frank and maybe Frank Jr., who else is in that crew?

I've never heard anyone else having been mentioned as part of that crew.


Originally Caruso's right hand guys were Richie DiSantis, Joe Pacella, John Balzano, Aldo P "Shorty JR." Piscitelli, Rocco and Richie LaMantia, Anthony Carvatta and Mickey Gurgone.

I would say a few of those still active in Caruso's crew today are those mentioned above minus Mickey Gurgone. Angelo Imparato and Richie Cantazone I believe are both probably dead. Casey S obviously is a major player in that crew as well.

If you guys want to read about Bridgeport, I would highly recommend reading Anthony Serritella's "Memoirs of a Bookie" which came out a year ago...he changes names, but you can tell exactly who these guys are.

Posted By: SgWaue86

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/29/14 07:35 PM

My god before The Arm came on here there were some bullshitters but this spacone makes those guys like the most credible of posters. I don't believe anything and we shouldn't entertain his statments by asking him shit.
Posted By: TheArm

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/29/14 07:39 PM

Originally Posted By: SgWaue86
My god before The Arm came on here there were some bullshitters but this spacone makes those guys like the most credible of posters. I don't believe anything and we shouldn't entertain his statments by asking him shit.


I'm the best connected guy you will ever have the privalage of taking to sonny boy
Posted By: TheArm

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/29/14 07:41 PM

Originally Posted By: thebigfella
Frank was the boss of rockford, rockford was the outfits farm system


These days it's trending toward the reverse
Posted By: ChiTown

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/29/14 07:46 PM

Originally Posted By: SgWaue86
My god before The Arm came on here there were some bullshitters but this spacone makes those guys like the most credible of posters. I don't believe anything and we shouldn't entertain his statments by asking him shit.


The Spacone's or "suckers" are the ones who keep asking him his thoughts on this or that and continue to take him seriously lol

Why anyone thinks a real middle aged Italian American would call anyone "son" is beyond me.
Posted By: SgWaue86

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/29/14 07:48 PM

Originally Posted By: TheArm
Originally Posted By: SgWaue86
My god before The Arm came on here there were some bullshitters but this spacone makes those guys like the most credible of posters. I don't believe anything and we shouldn't entertain his statments by asking him shit.


I'm the best connected guy you will ever have the privalage of taking to sonny boy


I know, i know. Doesnt make you feel like an ass pretending to be something your not on the internet. Why share all this inside info with a bunch of mob-watchers on the net. Im not a dick but damn man what's your end-game?
Posted By: SgWaue86

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/29/14 07:50 PM

Originally Posted By: ChiTown
Originally Posted By: SgWaue86
My god before The Arm came on here there were some bullshitters but this spacone makes those guys like the most credible of posters. I don't believe anything and we shouldn't entertain his statments by asking him shit.


The Spacone's or "suckers" are the ones who keep asking him his thoughts on this or that and continue to take him seriously lol

Why anyone thinks a real middle aged Italian American would call anyone "son" is beyond me.


Its funny but I can at least believe the stuff you post, but this fucking guys signature has gotta be the funniest fucking this I've read next to nicky eyes fan boy posts.
Posted By: TheArm

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/29/14 08:22 PM

Originally Posted By: SgWaue86
Originally Posted By: TheArm
Originally Posted By: SgWaue86
My god before The Arm came on here there were some bullshitters but this spacone makes those guys like the most credible of posters. I don't believe anything and we shouldn't entertain his statments by asking him shit.


I'm the best connected guy you will ever have the privalage of taking to sonny boy


I know, i know. Doesnt make you feel like an ass pretending to be something your not on the internet. Why share all this inside info with a bunch of mob-watchers on the net. Im not a dick but damn man what's your end-game?


First, if I say something you can bet your ass i know what I am talking about, I have been in and around the life I would bet before you wee born
As for me, It'sm a guilty pleasure where I vent and keep in real in a sea of misinformation and bullshit.
Finally, what is really funny is I give out almsiot no "Inside information", its just the facts that anyone who really knows WTF they are talking about already knows, as opposed to the wikipedia, media and laughable FBI public files shared on sites like this.
If you notice I only talk about what i know, Buffalo and Upstate NY where I came up, Scranton and the Columbos who I scaped with, The A-B C wars, and Chicago and Rockford where I live now
STFU and listen and ask questions, you might just learn something
Posted By: faffy444

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/29/14 08:32 PM

arm, keep up the good work. always remember, "illegitimi non carborundum".
Posted By: TheArm

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/29/14 08:45 PM

Originally Posted By: faffy444
arm, keep up the good work. always remember, "illegitimi non carborundum".


I never do my friend, I never do..and thanks
Posted By: ChiTown

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/29/14 08:49 PM

Hey you guys STFU and don't ask questions...Arm says we might just learn something! What a fucking idiot this guy and anyone who continues to engage him.
Posted By: NickyEyes1

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/30/14 12:12 AM

Originally Posted By: SgWaue86
Originally Posted By: ChiTown
Originally Posted By: SgWaue86
My god before The Arm came on here there were some bullshitters but this spacone makes those guys like the most credible of posters. I don't believe anything and we shouldn't entertain his statments by asking him shit.


The Spacone's or "suckers" are the ones who keep asking him his thoughts on this or that and continue to take him seriously lol

Why anyone thinks a real middle aged Italian American would call anyone "son" is beyond me.


Its funny but I can at least believe the stuff you post, but this fucking guys signature has gotta be the funniest fucking this I've read next to nicky eyes fan boy posts.

Why do you always feel the need to mention my fucking name?
Posted By: TheArm

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/30/14 05:08 PM

Originally Posted By: NickyEyes1
Originally Posted By: SgWaue86
Originally Posted By: ChiTown
Originally Posted By: SgWaue86
My god before The Arm came on here there were some bullshitters but this spacone makes those guys like the most credible of posters. I don't believe anything and we shouldn't entertain his statments by asking him shit.


The Spacone's or "suckers" are the ones who keep asking him his thoughts on this or that and continue to take him seriously lol

Why anyone thinks a real middle aged Italian American would call anyone "son" is beyond me.


Its funny but I can at least believe the stuff you post, but this fucking guys signature has gotta be the funniest fucking this I've read next to nicky eyes fan boy posts.

Why do you always feel the need to mention my fucking name?


Apperently he is the kind of guy who claims other people don't know anything, but have nothing to offer of their own and can't refute a thing. He and ChiTown should get a loft in Boystown and move in together.
Posted By: FrankMazola

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/30/14 09:41 PM

In Chicago this weekend for a bachelor party. Tomorrow after my plane gets in, I'm going to have a car and a day to myself. Any neighborhood bars or restaurants to check out where outfit guys are known to frequent, own, etc? Or maybe even just some cool sights? If nothing else, I wana eat at a good restaurant (Italian) that isn't a tourist trap. Any suggestions would be great. Thanks, I didn't know where else to post this.
Posted By: NickyEyes1

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/30/14 10:33 PM

For a nice dinner I would recommend Gene and Georgetti's. Very good steakhouse and has a very 1940's feel. As far as pizza goes my favorite is Vito and Nick's. Both of those restaurants are not touristy and won't be like ginos east, pizzeria uno, giordanos, ect. As far as hangouts today, I would check out Bridgeport, Taylor Street, Grand, and the Elmwood Park area.
Posted By: Nice_Guy

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/31/14 04:20 AM

Originally Posted By: FrankMazola
In Chicago this weekend for a bachelor party. Tomorrow after my plane gets in, I'm going to have a car and a day to myself. Any neighborhood bars or restaurants to check out where outfit guys are known to frequent, own, etc? Or maybe even just some cool sights? If nothing else, I wana eat at a good restaurant (Italian) that isn't a tourist trap. Any suggestions would be great. Thanks, I didn't know where else to post this.


Go to Joes stone crab on Rush, best food in chicago, google em, if for Italian go to Cafe Bionda, or Volare downtown.
But frank let me for warn you, in chicago we don't play, don't ask no questions or act like a cop approaching strangers, matter fact if I was you just sit back eat drink and observe lol cause you can get dealt wit on-site, in the restaurant bar in front of 50witnesses with video cameras in the joint don't matter, in the chi people are old school, that means "they didn't see anything" and that video will disappear one way or another. The scary part is the cops def don't wanna help you, then you can sue a local joint where they hang off duty lol... especially if your from outta state, they really won't help you lol
Enjoy
Posted By: HuronSocialAthletic

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/31/14 05:57 AM

Joe's stone is trash imo. Gene & Giorgetti, Volare, & Bionda are all overrated imo and most certainly tourist traps. Not off the beaten path whatsoever.

Head to Gio's in Bridgeport, La Luce at Lake St & Ogden Avenue, or any of the better places near 26th & California (Heart of Chicago) for truly off the beaten path Chicago Italian fare.

For more upscale Italian fare, Piccolo Sogno in the Patch (Grand & Halsted) & Spiaggia are excellent choices. But also, Google an establishment called A Tavola, an incredible spot near Chicago Ave & Damen. Best goddamn Ossobuco in the city.

If you really want to visit a "little Italy" district, Elmwood Park & Berwyn (to a much lesser extent) are the only places relatively near the city where wops who live in the area are congregating & bullshitting in numbers on the street. Taylor St is all yuppie/student trash & Grand Avenue (the Patch) is all yuppie & Mexican. Very unfortunately.

Sorry for blasting down anyone else's suggestions. Just don't want the fella to be disappointed.
Posted By: Mmalioni

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/31/14 06:14 AM

The average age of an Italian hanging out on the street in Elmwood Park and Berwyn is around 70.

The days of traditional white neighborhoods of Italian, Irish, Jewish, Polish, Greek neighborhoods are for the most part long gone. In Chicago now, it's Black, Hispanic and White.

The younger generation was raised in the West and Northwest suburbs. The mid twenties to mid thirties crowd lives downtown (Lakeview, Lincoln Park, River North etc.)
Posted By: HuronSocialAthletic

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/31/14 12:17 PM

naww, There's plenty of young to middle aged Italians gathering for pool & drinks on Harlem. Berwyn as well.
Posted By: NickyEyes1

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/31/14 09:13 PM

Originally Posted By: HuronSocialAthletic
Gene & Giorgetti, Volare, & Bionda are all overrated imo and most certainly tourist traps. Not off the beaten path whatsoever.

Gonna have to disagree with you about G&G Huron. Not touristy at all. Walk down Michigan Ave and ask the tourists where they're eating and next to none will say G&G. Tourists for the most part are not even gonna leave the loop. Best steakhouse in the city in my opinion.
Posted By: SgWaue86

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/31/14 10:36 PM

Sergio's in Itasca is the best spot to go. You may have a hard time getting in though lol.
Posted By: ChiSox74

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/31/14 10:47 PM

Originally Posted By: FrankMazola
In Chicago this weekend for a bachelor party. Tomorrow after my plane gets in, I'm going to have a car and a day to myself. Any neighborhood bars or restaurants to check out where outfit guys are known to frequent, own, etc? Or maybe even just some cool sights? If nothing else, I wana eat at a good restaurant (Italian) that isn't a tourist trap. Any suggestions would be great. Thanks, I didn't know where else to post this.


This is old news, but Abruzzo's in Melrose Park..or maybe its just rumors, but I don't see why not as its a cozy place and there are connected guys from that area
Posted By: ChiSox74

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/31/14 10:51 PM

The Arm seems to know what he's talking about and doesn't say anything outlandish. I don't know why anyone would doubt his credibility and unless you guys have real inside information.
Posted By: funkster

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 01/31/14 11:08 PM

Chitown, didn't one witness to the Clark beating get killed and the other ( Desantis's son) skip town?
Posted By: HuronSocialAthletic

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 02/01/14 06:11 AM

Abruzzo's is fantastic. Excellent suggestion
Posted By: Richards_bar

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 02/01/14 01:30 PM

Yes funk that is true. Michael Cutler was killed during an apparent robbery. The other witnesss was later found I believe in Croatia and returned to the u. s. for the trial. The trial was a circus as u can imagine, the judge had his life threatened and also I believe the prosecuting attorney.
Posted By: funkster

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 02/01/14 03:59 PM

Seems to me the Cutler thing happened under very mysterious circumstance...yet no one ever mentions it when talking of more recent Outfit hits. That's why I think these things still happen, just not as blatant anymore.
Posted By: Richards_bar

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 02/01/14 05:42 PM

I agree 100%
Posted By: IvyLeague

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 02/01/14 10:11 PM

Originally Posted By: ChiSox74
The Arm seems to know what he's talking about and doesn't say anything outlandish. I don't know why anyone would doubt his credibility and unless you guys have real inside information.



Well, let's see here. Not only does the guy want us to believe there is still a mob family in Rockford - there isn't - he also expects us to believe he is someone who would know about their inner workings and is here to tell us all about it on the internet.

Common sense alone should tell you he's full of it. Just another in a long line of mob forum bullshitters come to waste everyone's time.
Posted By: Dellacroce

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 02/01/14 10:14 PM

Not to mention he has inside info on just about every family from buffalo, providence, Pittsburg, bufalinos, rockford, and chicago rolleyes
Posted By: Gingello101182

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 02/01/14 10:17 PM

Hey Ivy I really enjoy your posts. I hope I am not one of the BS posters you speak of. I try to document what I post as best I can but some of what I post comes from local knowledge so that is hard to corroborate.

Anyway I was wondering if you knew where I could find a transcript from the Mike Sarno trial? I am trying to do research on the Cicero group of the Outfit.
Posted By: IvyLeague

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 02/01/14 10:37 PM

Originally Posted By: Dellacroce
Not to mention he has inside info on just about every family from buffalo, providence, Pittsburg, bufalinos, rockford, and chicago rolleyes


Forrest Gump of the mob.

Originally Posted By: Gingello101182
Hey Ivy I really enjoy your posts. I hope I am not one of the BS posters you speak of. I try to document what I post as best I can but some of what I post comes from local knowledge so that is hard to corroborate.


I don't recall exactly what you've posted but I've said several times that I actually do believe there are people on these forums who do have some information to share. Info that isn't necessarily public knowledge and comes from where they live, who they know, and what they hear. And as long as it doesn't conflict with what the feds say - who are always the best source of info - I rarely, if ever, question them. But Arm is claiming there is still a family in Rockford and that they're still making new members. Rockford ever being a standalone family independent of the Chicago Outfit is debatable, and even if it was, it hasn't been recognized by the feds as still being viable in years.

Quote:
Anyway I was wondering if you knew where I could find a transcript from the Mike Sarno trial? I am trying to do research on the Cicero group of the Outfit.


Sorry, I don't.
Posted By: Gingello101182

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 02/01/14 10:49 PM

Thanks Ivy, the Sarno transcript is do damn elusive. If I find it I will let everyone know. I have always enjoyed your posts and you do not post BS. Despite personal issues people have with you, I enjoy your candor and I look forward to talking with you in the future. Maybe at some point you might consider proposing me for the Real Deal Forum?

I posted the thread about Rochester, and I see what you mean about some of the posts these people post. It stinks because anyone who actually has local knowledge gets buried under the BS of the trolls.
Posted By: TheArm

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 02/13/14 04:48 AM

Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
Originally Posted By: ChiSox74
The Arm seems to know what he's talking about and doesn't say anything outlandish. I don't know why anyone would doubt his credibility and unless you guys have real inside information.



Well, let's see here. Not only does the guy want us to believe there is still a mob family in Rockford - there isn't - he also expects us to believe he is someone who would know about their inner workings and is here to tell us all about it on the internet.

Common sense alone should tell you he's full of it. Just another in a long line of mob forum bullshitters come to waste everyone's time.


Son, you're a joke.
You know nothing, and offer nothing but cut and pasted and transposed media bullshit.
No Rockford family?
I am quite literally laughing in your face...and so is anyone else who knows anything.
I have told you no "inner workings" corkey, number one I am fresh out of crayons, paper puppets, and shiny objects, and second thats not what I do.
You said it best yourself...."And as long as it doesn't conflict with what the feds say - who are always the best source of info - I rarely, if ever, question them"
That ALONE proves you are a nobody who knows nothing.
If you would have beleived the FEDs, the 5 NY familes were extinct in 1990...what a mook
Like I said kid, you're a joke...I am the best connected guy y6ou will ever be educated by....STFU and listen, you might learn something
Posted By: TheArm

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 02/13/14 04:51 AM

Originally Posted By: ChiSox74
The Arm seems to know what he's talking about and doesn't say anything outlandish. I don't know why anyone would doubt his credibility and unless you guys have real inside information.



They don't
They talk second and thried hand internet/media/FBI bullshit and try to pr4esent it like it is first hand knowledge or inside information...problem is.....they are wrong 90% of the time
Posted By: TheArm

Re: Chicago and Rockford - 02/13/14 04:58 AM

Originally Posted By: Dellacroce
Not to mention he has inside info on just about every family from buffalo, providence, Pittsburg, bufalinos, rockford, and chicago rolleyes


"Inside info?"
A little, but yeah, you hit on pretty much all the areas and people I have been familiar with over the years.
So you can listen to a jagoff who "never questions the feds"...(literally laughing out loud)
Or someone who actually knows WTF he is talking about...your choice
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