Mob restaurants in NYC

Ivy you listed bamontes twice.

"Umberto's Clam House (Manhattan, Bronx?) - Robert Ianniello/Genovese family"

I thought this guy was named Matthew Ianello. This is the place Joe Gallo was shot, right?

I have to take issue with Rao's Ivy.

Is Frank considered an associate of the westside?

Is it a predominantly Westside joint?

I was under the impression it was the Vegas of Restaurants. That is, open territory.

(And appreciate the list too by the by)

A good article about Gambino capo

'In April 2002, Gambino crime family associate Darren D’Amico was shot in the leg outside of the Cafe on the Green restaurant in Bayside. It is speculated that Bonanno crime family associate Randolph Pizzolo was responsible for the crime. He was subsequently murdered on a hit called by Vincent "Vinny Gorgeous" Basciano. Basciano is now serving life in prison without parole'

Some of it I just copied and pasted from other lists when I compiled that one. Not sure why it was listed as specifically a Genovese joint.

"Umberto's Clam House (Manhattan, Bronx?) - Robert Ianniello/Genovese family"

I thought this guy was named Matthew Ianello. This is the place Joe Gallo was shot, right?

Is Darren D’Amico related to Jackie D’Amico?

Frank Pellegrino isn't with anyone. They use that asshole equal opportunity.

And Rigoletto isn't a hangout, Sonny. Forget about who owns it. That place is that guy's pride and joy, and he and his wife take great pleasure in running it properly.

By the way, Mr. Capeci asserted that the "Five Families"—Luchese, Gambino, Bonanno, Genovese and Colombo—still exist in the New York area, each with a boss at the top. And they still meet to resolve issues, such as labor racketeering, more or less peacefully. "One rule the commission put in place was to outlaw the killings that put so many gangsters in prison for the rest of their lives," Mr. Capeci explained, "and that helped the government create informants because people were looking at so much time in prison they flipped."

So NY guys called Jersey guys 'farmers'

Did Philly have a nickname? Were/are they considered hicks too?

http://www.yelp.com/biz/taormina-of-mulberry-street-new-york-2

Taormina has really went downhill since Butch Corrao and John Gotti died, eh?

I was in NYC on business when all of the front pages of the tabloids covered a murder at Rao's. If you don't know the story, it's an interesting read.....reputed mobsters, the real life cop from The French Connection, celebrity restaurant and mob hangout, etc...

Murder at Rao's

I just saw this I was supposed to be there the night the guy was killed. Anytime my friend Johnny is in town we meet at Rao's. I could not go because I was baby sitting my little a grand daughter. My wife was out and my daughter had to work late that night. He just missed hitting my friends daughter who was also their that night.

I forget the reason why he shot the guy. I think he made fun of the way his girl friend sang in the place. He got mad and shot him.

Lately every time I go into that place someone is getting killed not in the place. Going to the place. The guy I was telling you about Mike Meldish was supposed to meet us their at 7pm. He never showed up so we leave go to this Chinese restraunt it had the head of a pig on the outside. Get this someone stole it recently. Then we go back. He is still not there so we go home. On Sunday John tellers me the guy his dead someone shot him in his car.

He asked me if I wanted to go to his funeral. I say no I would not go to yours. Evidently, he got mad att me. Has not called me since. Michael had a sister her I did like, but not enough to go to a funeral. I am trying very hard not to go to mine

The food in Ireland does not compare to Italian food. Mashed potatoes, peas, carrots, chicken, gravy.... forget about it.

Then Italian food is probably the best food in Europe.

"Umberto's Clam House (Manhattan, Bronx?) - Robert Ianniello/Genovese family"

I thought this guy was named Matthew Ianello. This is the place Joe Gallo was shot, right?

I lived in NYC at 10th & 51st from 1980 thru 1982. I rehabbed 177 apartment unites on Clay Ave. in The Bronx. My "Family Friends" from Pittsburgh arranged from me to meet a man named Michael at Umberto's for dinner. After dinner he drove me home and opened his trunk. I was given a large package wrapped in the Times. It contained a Colt 1911 and a 12ga. pump plus extra filled clips and several 12ga. double 00. I was told if there were any problems to have the guns run by the authorities and all would be OK.

Riiiiiiiiight sure that really happened.



If it actually had you would not be posting about it online or claiming such BS that Michael James Genovese gave you guns.

When you say the Umbertos, Bronx location do you mean the one on Arthur Avenue? Because if thats the case its been closed about a year and a half maybe two years, its called something else now, i heard toward the end Patsy was running it idk if he has a piece of the new place

The food in Ireland does not compare to Italian food. Mashed potatoes, peas, carrots, chicken, gravy.... forget about it.

Then Italian food is probably the best food in Europe.

An olde ex-gf of mine from awhile ago was arrested in Ireland they released her but she was never allowed to come back to the country

Jesus, what the fuck do you have to do to get thrown out of Ireland?

Just kidding. I love the Irish .

Has anyone ever eaten at Rao's? I hear it is impossible for the "average" person to get in. I travel to NYC a few times a year for work and always thought it would be cool to grab a bite to eat, but I have never even tried because I hear it is impossible. Maybe if you go as soon as the open at like 10 AM? or is it impossible regardless?

Maybe a little OT, but who's got the best slice in NY?

Totonnos on Neptune Avenue in Coney Island makes outrageous Pizza

My wife was just in the city for work and she met a friend and ate in Queens at Trattoria L’incontro which she said was incredible...located in Astoria

Does anybody know if it has any of the occasional connected guys crowd, though?

I never thought the mob had much of a presence in Astoria.

Not really. Too many cops and politicians eat there anyway. But who cares about that shit? The food's good, that's all that matters .


Not now. But Joe Gallo (the old Gambino heavyweight, not Crazy Joe) was headquartered on Crescent Street for more than thirty years.

I never thought the mob had much of a presence in Astoria.

The Lucchese had a prescence in Astoria. In fact they had some issues with Alex Rudaj and the Albanians trying to take over some of the action there.

The Lucchese had a prescence in Astoria. In fact they had some issues with Alex Rudaj and the Albanians trying to take over some of the action there.

Joe N. Gallo had a little coffee/candy store but it was mostly just a place he used to get away from the life... not a mob social club, per se.

Oh yes the Rudaj "corporation." I hear the Albanians gave them a lot of trouble. Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't they even get away with hitting heavyweights once?

Don Peppe (Queens, NY)

This restaurant got a lot of press in 2009 when ex-con Anthony "Fat Tony" Rabito was banned from it on condition of his parole, since the Mafia was hustlin' there 24/7. But Fat Tony is just the beginning. One of the more sensational Don Peppe rumors claims that mob boss Ciro Perrone got so irate at a waiter who spilled a drink on his wife that he had his crew, including famous snitch Henry Hill, wait with lead pipes and baseball bats for the staff to leave at the end of the night. That same Perrone was caught disrespecting Growing Up Gotti over a Don Peppe meal by the Feds' wiretaps, so clearly, that guy fears nothing.

Don Peppe (Queens, NY)

This restaurant got a lot of press in 2009 when ex-con Anthony "Fat Tony" Rabito was banned from it on condition of his parole, since the Mafia was hustlin' there 24/7. But Fat Tony is just the beginning. One of the more sensational Don Peppe rumors claims that mob boss Ciro Perrone got so irate at a waiter who spilled a drink on his wife that he had his crew, including famous snitch Henry Hill, wait with lead pipes and baseball bats for the staff to leave at the end of the night. That same Perrone was caught disrespecting Growing Up Gotti over a Don Peppe meal by the Feds' wiretaps, so clearly, that guy fears nothing.

They're not ripping you off, they're ripping off the government of the United States. Plus, if you have to use a credit card to go out to dinner, then you shouldn't be going out to dinner.

. Last time I was there the girl from Baywatch was there. Now she has short hair looks pretty good. My pal Johnny knows her he gives her a hug. I tell her where's my hug. I think I hugged her for around ten minutes

You told that story a little different last time

The only place I eat in Coney island is close to MCI park the home of the cyclones. Name of it is Garjulio's 2911 West 15 street. Not a mob hang out unless I happen to be eating there. I like the place go there after watching a game or before the game.

Anyone got any good recommendations for the Times square area?

And thanks,PB. Take your time.

Too late. Check your pm .

Found this on the Albanians. Does anybody know who they "beat up?"

Casa Rosa (384 Court Street Brooklyn) - Punchy Illiano/Genovese family

Isn't Punchy dead also? I thought he just died

LOTS of Italian closures in that 'hood over the last 15 years

Hey PB where you been,check your PM

Ivy the FBI press realese does say that, “We had a sense they were an organization, but we were surprised at how aggressively they challenged New York’s Italian organized crime families,” said the FBI case agent assigned to the investigation. “They started taking territory, beating up ‘made men.’

So they can't be Greek guys. So who are these "made guys" they are talking about?

Nardino “Lenny” Colotti had been a Gambino associate for years, working under soldier Phil “Skinny Phil” Loscalzo in the Morris Park area of the Bronx. When Skinny Phil died, Lenny was put under Joseph Gambino, who was active on Arthur Avenue. Lenny was unhappy because he was never made. Lenny was close with a number of Albanians, including Alex Rudaj, Nikola Dedaj, and others. He and the Albanians got into a confrontation where he “raised hands” to some made Gambino guys. Anyone who knows mob protocol knows this is a big no no. Lenny was called on the carpet by Joe Gambino and basically told that he was cut off and on his own. This is where they decided they were going to try and take things over for themselves. Some gambling spots and outlets for video poker machines in the Bronx, Westchester, and Queens. Some of these places were connected to Joe and Sal Gambino, the Mascias, and others who were all relatives of Carlo Gambino and Paul Castellano. These guys were old time “zips” and multi-millionaires. They also weren’t very well liked by the Gotti faction of the family, who was currently in power. Lenny and Rudaj knew this, as well as the fact that old Gambino guys who were multi-millionaires with legit property would not think it was worth it to go to war with a bunch of crazy Albanians who had nothing to lose over some coffee shops and a few joker poker machines. This emboldened them to start making moves.

When the Rudaj guys pistol-whipped some Greek guys that ran the gambling club in Astoria, Queens for the Lucchese family, the Luccheses didn’t react because the whole scene was already too hot. The FBI had already begun investigating the Rudaj gang. Even though it is one of the smaller families, the Luccheses have a lot of “shooters,” i.e. members capable of murder. In fact, the Luccheses have more killers than the entire Rudaj gang had members. But because of the law enforcement heat, the Luccheses decided to just wait it out. Not too long afterwards, the Rudaj gang assaulted a guy who was running another gambling club in Queens that had been recently opened by the Gambinos. This is what led to the meeting at the gas station in New Jersey. Led by Gambino member Arnold “Zeke” Squitieri, the Gambinos had about 30 guys there, all armed to the teeth with guns, bats, and other weapons. The Rudaj guys were greatly outnumbered but stood their ground. When the two groups couldn’t come to an agreement, things got heated, and Squitieri pointed a gun at Rudaj. In response, one of Rudaj’s men pointed his shotgun at a gas pump and threatened to blow everyone up. Squitieri thought the Rudaj guys just might be crazy enough to do it and told his guys to back off, ending the meeting.

Even though the Rudaj guys were acting like cowboys, they knew their limits. As said, they went after places belonging to some old Gambino zips that weren’t very well liked in the family and were basically near retirement. The guys they went after in Queens were Greeks, not Italians. This was during the time when the Gambino family was fractured and not operating as a single unit, but more as a group of scattered crews. However, there were clubs in the Bronx run by other Gambino captains, like Vinny Artuso and Sal Locascio, that the Rudaj gang didn’t touch. And they didn’t dare go near the Genovese and Bonanno clubs in the area. The whole incident at Rao’s was seen as a total joke. Nobody took it seriously. In any event, it wasn’t long before the Rudaj crew got indicted. Lenny, Rudaj, and the other top leaders of the gang got prison sentences ranging from 22 to 27 years each. As usually happens, all the property the Rudaj guys had amassed on Arthur Avenue, Crescent Avenue, Morris Park, and City Island got taken by the government and sold at auction. Their families weren’t left with anything. There are still Albanians around but they are a lot more low key and in the shadows than when the Rudaj guys were running wild. They’re into things like burglaries, video poker machines, and other relatively small time stuff. A lot of them still work for the Italian crime families. Many Albanians spend a few years in Italy before immigrating to the United States. That’s where they have developed connections with the Italians.

The Rudaj gang was hardly the "sixth family" they wanted to be or others claimed they were. They were basically put out of commission with a single indictment.