Strongest Crews in New Jersey Thread

Im bored as hell and i thought id drum up some activity around here. Which (in your opinion) are the strongest crew/crews that operate in jersey? North or south. No wrong answer, just thought i could just see some entertaining discussion around here....

What are some crews that are in south jersey? And what is considered the dividing line between north and south jersey?

good thread skinny, in north jersey i would say the fiumara crew, they seem to have the most union control espicially at the ports. and in south jersey the bruschi crew is pretty active down there, the philly guys have a crew there to.

My guess would be DeVita crew or one of the Genovese crews

learned of the below Union trucking fraud , they apparently had contracts at port newark

I used to be very friendly with the participants who actually were good people I thought

It was local 282 , I'm sure some family had their hands in this but curious if anyone knows for sure

http://nlpc.org/stories/2012/08/17/new-y...teamsters-local

Toms river divides it to me. Ninny is mostly active in that area, he broke off from larry fab dentico and larry kept mostly the laborer unions and carpenter stuff he got when bobby manna got life. Tinos crew lost a lot imo in the past few yrs. T dieing and MC being down for another 10 or so yrs. doesnt help their point guy at the docks (depiro) went down, plus some street guys connected to garbage shake downs. Toner is big willy now and IMO doesnt draw the same weight as Tino. Devita draws a lot of weight in the cement and concrete industry. Especially around essex co. He got all of andy gerards street rackets.... So a lot of money.


In my opinion its all genovese guys. In order..

-Larry Fab Dentico
-Silvio Devita
-Mike Toner Borelli

Larry D also runs his street stuff in hoboken, i left that out

What areas are the Decalvacantes involved in Jersey?

What up nicky.... Mostly union co and down, big in toms river. Monmouth, ocean, midsex countys. (Central jers)

They are still in the italian section in Elizabeth

A few social clubs "members only " are open there

Elizabeth is a shit hole with alot of hookers

Alot of racketeers hang at AJ in jersey city and ironically satin dolls in Lodi (which was the soprano go go lol ) but they are pretty low key

Both those areas are still pretty strong in OC

i think the lucheses are definatly behind the geneveses. they have been fucked by indictments in 07 with that shit involving the bloods and then in the big internet bust in 2010. and im pretty sure everyone could agree that licatas crew is the least powerful, sure they have a small gambling niche but thats about it.

skinny, do u kno if the bonannos have any crews in nj. i kno theres a few heavy guys livin out there but havent heard any activity.

Would you say this is accurate?
North Jersey- 5 families
Central Jersey- Decalvacantes
South Jersey- Philly

sammartino has a crew in bayonne

Nicky id say genovese for the whole state.

The guy that shook down the old owners of satin dolls was john ravo who was under prisco and now pepe lascala. The lodi/rutherford/lyndhurst area is where the biggest concentration of guys are today

Outside of bayonne there is no bonanno crew BASED in jersey.

Id say the gambinos are behind the west side. Just my opinion... They only have one newark crew but there are many ny crews who are heavy in nj.

Skinny is there any Columbo presence in Jersey? Is Licata's crew really the weakest?

I dont know of any that isnt ny based...

In my opinion scoops still holds a lot of juice in north jersey. He has been around bloomfeild ave for 40 plus years at least. That crew still is big into the staple stuff. Book with the pernas, beeps shy biz, numbers, machines, tickets.... Lots of money to be taken and that is a real quiet crew. Real low key. Beeps is millionaire. Nicky Olivieri and Lou Fazzini are proven work guys. A lot of that crew revolves around sports, which has always been pretty low key if done right. I mean look at the last time phil d got hit.

I was never able to find any LCN-connection to that case.



The last Colombo case in Jersey I'm aware of was when Ray Cagno was busted for racketeering and murder back in 2000.

I was told by an authority it was connected , thru a tony parish or a similiar name at port Newark

I thought beeps was broke actually , guess I heard wrong , must be nice to be him

skinny it seems like quiet dom has a huge jersey crew right? runs garbage in north jersey and parts of east pennsylvania, has a big book based out of rutherford? i guess you would consider him NY based?

westside in NJ seems like its own family at this point, you look at north/central jersey its huge territory, probably the most profitable area for wiseguys id say (outside of construction within 5 boroughs).. lots of money to be made in bergen,essex, monmouth, hudson, morris, somerset etc... lot of sports fans with lots of money, i would say more than westchester/connecticut. I also wonder if barney has any say/pull in jersey.

Any idea who controls stuff in Mercer County (Trenton/Princeton area). The area has always been considered the dividing line (in my opinion) between the NY Metro Area (north jersey) and the Philly metro area (south jersey). Back in the day you had Reds Pontani in Trenton (Philly family I believe) as well as the Russos (Gambino). Currently, I haven't heard of anything in the area.

Baldo, correct. Philly use to have a crew back in the 80s that were with Scarfo in Trenton. Not sure if any were even made but they did kick up to scarfo. South Jersey is Philly. North Jersey has like 4 families there right...Genovese, luchese, decavalcantes and Philly. Im sure the other families of NY have guys doing stuff but these are the only CREWS I was aware of.

is Pepe on the streets?

Last mob run gambling joint in Chambersburg shut down in like 2010, that I knew of anyway, over on Hudson. Couple years back some low level Philly guy from the Burg got busted for a construction scam. But historically Mercer County was split between Philly and the Gambinos. Lots of street gang members in the area, and also members of Breed MC as they have big chapter in Bucks County, PA.

JS, I still hear of card games in the burg...wonder if anyone is getting a cut of that or its just some old timers playing around.

so the decalvalcante's have been pushed outta north jersey into central jersey?

that's pretty pathetic

before 1999 ocean,capo,rotondo flipped they had a strong family of like 50 60 guys. I don't think any guy is still in jail from that huge decalvacante bust in 2000. only 3 guys flipped the other 3 bosses flipped there appeal and are out or home soon. im guessing they must still have a very strong stance in middle jersey even if its only 30 guys. that family was all blood related and after the nyc guy telling them they cant make guys from ny anymore would further intrenched them in jersey. I think rotondo talked a lot of shit about that family from the stand to embarish them, getting back at old grudges cuse he was a silver spoon kid. you think they stoped making guys in that family the Colombo still do with all there rats. I also wonder if the five families would absolve the family that makes sense. but they haven't had a guy flip since 2000. capo dead rotondo gone vinny ocean in jail.

Elizabeth is north jersey and has always been their strong area. It's basically
The Newark airport and near the ports

They are still strong in that area

After sandy there was alot of big contracts handed out
Around the jersey shore / toms river and with their union influence I'm
Sure they got a cut of some of it

Is phil abramo really getting out in 2018 or is he doing life?

[quote=dsbaloo]Is phil abramo really getting out in 2018 or is he doing life?

In 2008, a federal appeals court reversed Abramo's racketeering conviction and ordered a new trial.

Yeah but is that from any other sorce than wikipedia?

Not from there nytimes,here the link.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/05/nyregion/05mob.html?scp=1&sq=Philip%20Abramo&st=cse

Thanks. Wasn't trying to be a dick about the wiki thing, was just curious cause that's the only place I saw it.

Are you sure it's this case? What did it have to do with Port Newark?



As someone said above, years ago the Gambinos had a presence there. A black bookie and numbers guy named Alvin Brown has been busted there a number of times over the past decade. In the past he had ties to the Gambinos through Anthony Tassone.



The Genovese crews in Jersey are still answerable to the family's top leadership in New York. A while back, acting boss Danny Leo gave Anthony Palumbo oversight of the family's operations in the state.

It cool wiki is full of crap.

Who's got more info on ninny and what his crew is into? Also who is In his crew?
I think its crazy how much activity is in jersey as a whole from the philly guys to ny fams and the decavalcantes. Always curious with the decavalcantes current situation.. Are they getting all their rackets slowly eaten up by the westside and gambinos? Or do they still hold some strenght in certain areas of jersey? Wonder if they have made some young guys and are still trying to keep it going? Curious to see what will happen when abramo, vitabile get back on the street

His last two busts, in 2003 and 2004, involved mostly illegal gambling. Huge bookmaking operation that stretched throughout the state. The 2004 bust, which also included Larry Dentico, even included Genovese a bookmaking operation that had opened up in Philadelphia.



If you look at the relatively recent cases involving the DeCavalcantes, even the big one back in the late 1990's and early 2000's, they don't seem to have a big stake in the gambling and loansharking rackets in the state, which seem to be run mostly by the NY families. Traditionally, their niche was always labor racketeering in the construction industry through their control of the Laborers Union, especially Local 394. A lot of DeCavalcante guys got ousted from the union and Local 394 was put under oversight back in 2006. It remains to be seen if that will be successful in eliminating their influence. The relative lack of activity over the past decade seems to suggest the family has been running on fumes. The NJ OC report back in 2004 said the family was "undergoing reorganization and re-entrenchment at the hands of a skeleton crew of non-indicted members."

Ya it was in the stefannelli tapes about beeps being broke, licata said something like "i cant make three cents with the guy", and ligambi was recorded saying how beeps cornered him at party to complain about how broke he was. But i personally have no idea what his worth is.

Yes I'm positive it was this case

The big contracts the trucking firm got were in port Newark

I know one of the good guys familiar with the case

Anyone got any info on Sammartino and his crew?

PHILIP ABRAMO
Register Number: 17652-050

Age: 68
Race: White
Sex: M

Located at: Allenwood Medium FCI
Release Date: 01/21/2018

I don't think lack of arrests automatically means lack of activity. The family was pretty quiet after the Riggi bust until the late 1990's when the FBI found out they were expanding. In some cases, a lack of arrests means the family is rebuilding and keeping a lower profile. Look at Philly after Joey Merlino was sent to prison until the recent case.

When joe massino was at the height of his power there was talk of splitting the Colombo family members into the other 4 families , I can't see that ever happening though with carmine persico having such a strong hold on the family

The luchhese "Dibernardo" crew aksi Daniel Bonanno has set up shop in Jersey too I heard he;s a rising star in the N. Jersey underworld

Genovese's have the top crews in New Jersey in my honest opinion, most notable Palumbo crew. Lucchese had a strong crew but has been weakened and is still recovering from the Amuso and Casso fiasco. For the Bonanno's, Sammartino Sr. runs that crew based out of Bayonne, the crew was powerful during the piazza connection era but lost a lot of it's momentum, it is now a shadow of its former self and who the fuck is this Daniel Bonanno?

while ofcourse the Amuso and Casso antics hurt the Jersey crew, they pretty much caused acceturo and riccardi to flip taking down the tacceta brothers. but attribute the weakened state their in now to them being hammered with indictments over the past 7 years. first operation heat in 07 and then again 2010 with another big gambling bust. it looks like the operation heat case which have been in some type of legal limbo for over the past 5 years is close to coming to ahead, so we could see all the Pernas going down along with some other top guys from that crew. but ofcourse the lucheses are far from being wiped out of north jersey. and it goes without saying that the west side has the most influence in new jersey. they have their hands in the unions on the ports and in garbage hauling along with having the biggest books. and having their influence not limited to north jersey, like the other new york crews are, but also have reaches into south jersey. lol dont even bother asking about daniel bonnano, just a figment of a poor souls imagination.

Good post Dellacroce. Tough to find decent posters these days

thanks buddy, yes unfortunatley it is. hope to see you pop back in more often around here.

I'll do my best. Sometimes there's just not a lot here that's worthwhile you know? I'm in the general discussion more often but in the OC it's usually the same rehashed junk or dumb questions that fan boys can't get enough of

o yeah i defiantly know what you mean, its hard to sift through all the BS here sometimes.