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Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston

Posted By: lic

Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 08/12/13 09:38 PM

billy angelesco( IP 2013)
anthony barry( IP LIFE SENTENCE)
gene giangrande
lonnie hillson
greg costa
john scarpelli(IP2013)
sal marino(IP 2013)
mongiello
big paul decologero( IP life sentence)
niel mazza aka aniello mazza
joe donahue(DEAD)
gigi portalla( IP 2033)
romano
cirame
floramo
duilio 'lelo' fabbo
mucka mccormick( DEAD)
prochillo jr.
prochillo sr.
buffalino
federico
ciampi
richard devlin(DEAD)
richard gillis(DEAD)
arcieri's(DEAD)
bobby rogers santasky(DEAD)
billy brymer(IP 2036)
patsy squillante(DEAD)
joey yerardi(IP0
arthur gianelli(IP)
richie sperlinga(DEAD)
BRIAN PORRECA(dead)
derek capozzi(IP)
alex sonny boy rizzo
fat al sapochetti
kevin hardy
georgie boy hogan
billy hogan
johnny pots and pans gagliardi(DEAD0
tom cahill
brain cahill
lou pepe
enrico ponzo
gary macarelli(DEAD)
sean cote(DEAD)
johnsons somerville
mcqueeney's cambridge
ernie fields
manuel botelho
lightbodys
poupolo's
luisi's
richard the pig devincent(DEAD0
anthony diprizio(dead)
paul walker( top guy in cambridge)
carmen tortora(BROCKTON)
john gagliardi sr
joe gagliardi
johnny pots and pans gagliardi
thomas ryan
scott mcdermott
greg mcglaughlin
vinne piro corrupt somerville politician
anthony bucci
john minotti
chris daddio
dukey kenney
billy lerardi
giorgios
carmine riggillo(DEAD)
michal bruce( malden crimnla)
vincent ricci
eddie insogna
christian petrillo
bobby rennell
john red shea
billy barnoski( IP life sentence)
patsy barone
Timothy Mello( fall river taunton new bedford)
george upton( cape cod)
adam hart ( cape cod)



street level guys of the 90's.. theres some other names will add when think of them. Theres definetley a few guys on this site that grew up with some of theses characters. ill post some of there hang outs too.
Posted By: azguy

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 08/13/13 02:34 PM

why don't you prove to us you actually now something and tell us what guys on this list are out and which are in jail.

A lot of those names I see are doing time...
Posted By: lic

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 08/13/13 02:56 PM

southend.. you must know half the people on that list...
Posted By: southend

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 08/13/13 03:25 PM

I see you put pep's name on there again lol. He'd be so excited to see that, it'd make his whole week, lettin everybody who'll listen know about it haha. His real name is Lucio Pepe, everyone just calls him Lou Pep. Surprised not to see Patsy Barone on there. Dukey Kenney, familiar name to me because Billy Barnoski has mentioned him many times, I know he doesn't like him though. Can't remember exactly how they'r connected to eachother but they were....
Posted By: lic

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 08/13/13 03:29 PM

people say dukey was apart of the mcdermott murder in lowell... thats prob why barnoski mentioned his name. i should add barnoski and patsy barone too it.
Posted By: southend

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 08/13/13 03:30 PM

by Giorgio do you mean the two brothers from Revere? One died in a fire he set himself to collect the insurance and the other brother who was part of the scam got time for it...if theseare the Giorgio's your thinking of. Could not be.
Posted By: Mick7

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 08/13/13 03:31 PM

Dukey and Mcqueeney were both there the night mcdermott got kill
Posted By: lic

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 08/13/13 03:32 PM

yeah that is actually the ones,,the giorgios and lightbodys from revere... yeah they say mcqueney and dukey were there everyone says there were all coked out too haaha
Posted By: southend

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 08/13/13 03:35 PM

I wouldn't add barnoski, he's been in prison since 88 and wasn't on the streets very long before that either, he did a four year bid in the feds from 83-87 for the horse race fixing case so he's barely been on the streets for some of the most significant times
Posted By: lic

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 08/13/13 03:38 PM

thats true but.. guys been down long time deserves a little recognition lol.... people dont realize that these were the guys out there dealing in the viloent side.
Posted By: lic

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 08/13/13 03:45 PM

people also dont know that the beav and BC met in walpole in the 80'. cahill was doing a manslaughter armed robbery bid, and the beav was in there for that thing that happened when he was a kid he was working as a lifegaurd at a local pool and some guy came to th epool with a knife saying the beav couldnt selld rugs in medford or malden anymore.. the beav took the knife from the guy and stuck him with his own knife...something only local people would know... angelesco and giangrande were part of beavs crew once upon a itme... so was bobby rogers santasky.
Cahill was barrys sidekick.. but also worked in southie with billy brymer.
Posted By: SEAN_SOUTH

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 08/13/13 05:47 PM

WHat about the Providence guys like Kevin Hanrahan and Gordon O'Brien. Both were heavy hitters in Providence NE and had ties to Frank Salemme.

Kevin Hanrahan was shot at many times before he got hit and Gordon O'Brien was a major figure in the Taunton area right? He weren't a guy to fuck around with, respected by all even if he had his enemies from what I hear.

Posted By: lic

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 08/13/13 06:07 PM

hanrahan was a providence guy gordon obrien worked for timothy melllo in fall river taunton new bedford etc..
Posted By: IvyLeague

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 08/13/13 09:23 PM

On a related note, here's the latest chart I've seen for the New England family.


Boss:
Underboss:
Consigliere: Carmen "Fat Carmen/The Cheese Man" DiNunzio/55 (IP/1/27/2015)

Captains:
1. Joseph “Joe the Bishop” Achille Sr/77/Prov - ID as captain in 2005/2009 articles
2. Anthony DiNunzio/53/Bos (IP/12/21/2017) - said to have been a captain when indicted as acting boss in 2012
3. Edward "Eddie" Lato/66/Prov (IP/7/25/2019) - ID as captain in 2011 indictment

For the record, Anthony St. Laurent was identified as a captain in his 2009 press release. Mark Rosetti was identified as a captain in his 2010 indictment but it's unclear if he had any made guys under him. Matthew Guglielmetti was also identified as a captain in 1999 and 2006 articles. Needless to say, I have a feeling the status of the captains here needs updating. Boston has at least twice the membership the Providence faction has and so would probably have more captains up there. But we won't know until we know.

Soldiers:

(Boston)
1. William Angelesco/41
2. Darin Bufalino/52 (IP)
3. Robert “Bobby” Carrozza/73
4. John Cincotti/73
5. Biagio “Benny” DiGiacomo/67
6. Vincent Federico/53 (IP/L)
7. Vincent “The Animal” Ferrara/64
8. Richard “Richie the Pig” Gambale/70
9. Vincent “Dee Dee” Gioacchini/60
10. Frank Imbruglia/81
11. Ralph “Ralphie Chong” Lamattina/90
12. Dennis “Champagne” LePore/66
13. Peter Limone/79
14. James “Jimmy” Martorano/71
15. Joseph “Junior” Pingaro/57
16. Michael “Mike” Prochillo/43 (UI/IP)
17. Pryce Quintina/73
18. Stephen Rossetti/54 (IP/4/4/2044)
19. John “Jackie” Salemme/70
20. Frederick “Freddie the Neighbor” Simone/63
21. Anthony "Spucky" Spagnolo/69
22. Carmen Tortora/66

(Providence)
1. William "Billy Blackjack" Delsanto/70/
2. Vito “The Ox” DeLuca/69
3. Rocco "Rocky" Folco/66 (UI)
4. Pasquel “Patsy” Galea/70
5. Matthew "Matty Gugs" Guglielmetti Jr/63 (IP/3/31/2016)
6. Louis “Luigi/Baby Shanks” Manocchio/85 (IP/11/4/2015)
7. Frank “BoBo” Marrapese/70 (IP)
8. Raymond “Junior” Patriarca/68
9. Joseph Ruggiero/63
10. Alfred "Chippy" Scivola/72 (IP/1/24/2015)
11. Anthony "The Saint" St. Laurent/72 (IP/7/27/2016)

(Connecticut)
1. Anthony “Tony the Beaver” Ascenzia Jr/ 54
2. Salvatore “Butch” D'Aquila/72
3. Americo “The Cigar” Petrillo/79

Members Who Have Died Since 2000:
Donato “Danny” Angiulo (2009)
Frank "The Cat" Anguilo (2012)
Gennaro “Jerry” Anguilo (2009)
Michele “Mike” Anguilo
Rocco Argenti (2002)
Philip "Sonny'' Baiona (2007)
Frederick “Fred” Champa (2007)
Dominic Isabella
Richard “Richie” Floramo (2009)
Cono “Connie” Frizzi Sr. (2000)
Cono “Connie” Frizzi Jr. (2011)
Charles "Q-Ball" Quintina
Alexander “Sonny Boy" Rizzo (2005)
Anthony Rizzo (2004)
Rudolph “Rudy Earl” Sciarra (2012)

Members Who Have Flipped:
1. John “Sonny” Castagna/Soldier (1990)
2. Antonio “Nino” Cucinotta/Soldier (1994)
3. Robert "Bobby Cigar" DeLuca/Captain (2011)
4. Angelo "Sonny" Mercurio/Soldier (1988)
5. Gaetano Milano/Soldier (1993)
6. Joseph Napolitano/Soldier (Killed)
7. Mark Rossetti/Captain (informant since 1990's, came out in 2010)
8. Frank "Cadillac Frank" Salemme/Boss (2000)
Posted By: IvyLeague

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 08/13/13 09:24 PM

I've wondered if some of these guys are made...


Gregory “Greg/Fat Boy” Costa/43/Bos - involved in 2002 gambling bust
Richard Costa - named in 2009 Limone exclusion list
Louis DiNunzio/Bos - named in 2009 Limone exclusion list
Joseph DiPrizio/54 - involved in 2009 Limone gambling bust and on exclusion list
James Lamattina - named in 2009 Limone exclusion list
Joseph “Joe Black” Lamattina/82/Bos - former associate of the Anguilos
Anthony Lovuolo - named in 2009 Limone exclusion list
Mario Marquardo/63 - involved in 2009 Limone gambling bust and on exclusion list
Frank Pagano - named in 2009 Limone exclusion list
Thomas Palladino/79 - involved in 2009 Limone gambling bust and on exclusion list
Michael Prochilo Sr. - named in 2009 Limone exclusion list
Lee Rizzo - named in 2009 Limone exclusion list
Dominic Santoro/67 - involved in 2009 Limone gambling bust and on exclusion list
Dominic Serino/74 - involved in 2009 Limone gambling bust and on exclusion list
Anthony Squillante/77 - involved in 2009 Limone gambling bust and on exclusion list
Ralph Ventola/46 - involved in 2009 Limone gambling bust and on exclusion list
John Vitello/62/Ct - involved in 2000 Ascenzia gambling bust and on exclusion list
Posted By: mike68

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 08/13/13 09:33 PM

I heard on this board that DiNunzio's son is. I assume that Prochilo Sr. is considering that Prochilo Jr. is. I remember reading that Marquardo told someone a button wasn't worth the aggravation so I assume he isn't.

Curious whether this Squillante is related to the Squillante who was murdered in Malden a few years back.
Posted By: lic

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 08/13/13 11:19 PM

Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
On a related note, here's the latest chart I've seen for the New England family.


Boss:
Underboss:
Consigliere: Carmen "Fat Carmen/The Cheese Man" DiNunzio/55 (IP/1/27/2015)

Captains:
1. Joseph “Joe the Bishop” Achille Sr/77/Prov - ID as captain in 2005/2009 articles
2. Anthony DiNunzio/53/Bos (IP/12/21/2017) - said to have been a captain when indicted as acting boss in 2012
3. Edward "Eddie" Lato/66/Prov (IP/7/25/2019) - ID as captain in 2011 indictment

For the record, Anthony St. Laurent was identified as a captain in his 2009 press release. Mark Rosetti was identified as a captain in his 2010 indictment but it's unclear if he had any made guys under him. Matthew Guglielmetti was also identified as a captain in 1999 and 2006 articles. Needless to say, I have a feeling the status of the captains here needs updating. Boston has at least twice the membership the Providence faction has and so would probably have more captains up there. But we won't know until we know.

Soldiers:

(Boston)
1. William Angelesco/41
2. Darin Bufalino/52 (IP)
3. Robert “Bobby” Carrozza/73
4. John Cincotti/73
5. Biagio “Benny” DiGiacomo/67
6. Vincent Federico/53 (IP/L)
7. Vincent “The Animal” Ferrara/64
8. Richard “Richie the Pig” Gambale/70
9. Vincent “Dee Dee” Gioacchini/60
10. Frank Imbruglia/81
11. Ralph “Ralphie Chong” Lamattina/90
12. Dennis “Champagne” LePore/66
13. Peter Limone/79
14. James “Jimmy” Martorano/71
15. Joseph “Junior” Pingaro/57
16. Michael “Mike” Prochillo/43 (UI/IP)
17. Pryce Quintina/73
18. Stephen Rossetti/54 (IP/4/4/2044)
19. John “Jackie” Salemme/70
20. Frederick “Freddie the Neighbor” Simone/63
21. Anthony "Spucky" Spagnolo/69
22. Carmen Tortora/66

(Providence)
1. William "Billy Blackjack" Delsanto/70/
2. Vito “The Ox” DeLuca/69
3. Rocco "Rocky" Folco/66 (UI)
4. Pasquel “Patsy” Galea/70
5. Matthew "Matty Gugs" Guglielmetti Jr/63 (IP/3/31/2016)
6. Louis “Luigi/Baby Shanks” Manocchio/85 (IP/11/4/2015)
7. Frank “BoBo” Marrapese/70 (IP)
8. Raymond “Junior” Patriarca/68
9. Joseph Ruggiero/63
10. Alfred "Chippy" Scivola/72 (IP/1/24/2015)
11. Anthony "The Saint" St. Laurent/72 (IP/7/27/2016)

(Connecticut)
1. Anthony “Tony the Beaver” Ascenzia Jr/ 54
2. Salvatore “Butch” D'Aquila/72
3. Americo “The Cigar” Petrillo/79

Members Who Have Died Since 2000:
Donato “Danny” Angiulo (2009)
Frank "The Cat" Anguilo (2012)
Gennaro “Jerry” Anguilo (2009)
Michele “Mike” Anguilo
Rocco Argenti (2002)
Philip "Sonny'' Baiona (2007)
Frederick “Fred” Champa (2007)
Dominic Isabella
Richard “Richie” Floramo (2009)
Cono “Connie” Frizzi Sr. (2000)
Cono “Connie” Frizzi Jr. (2011)
Charles "Q-Ball" Quintina
Alexander “Sonny Boy" Rizzo (2005)
Anthony Rizzo (2004)
Rudolph “Rudy Earl” Sciarra (2012)

Members Who Have Flipped:
1. John “Sonny” Castagna/Soldier (1990)
2. Antonio “Nino” Cucinotta/Soldier (1994)
3. Robert "Bobby Cigar" DeLuca/Captain (2011)
4. Angelo "Sonny" Mercurio/Soldier (1988)
5. Gaetano Milano/Soldier (1993)
6. Joseph Napolitano/Soldier (Killed)
7. Mark Rossetti/Captain (informant since 1990's, came out in 2010)
8. Frank "Cadillac Frank" Salemme/Boss (2000)


DAMN good chart ivy, its hilarious billy's the youngest on there
seems revere, medford and eastie are the only places left fro somewhat young talent.

Mylist is guys of all affilation WHG( somerville and southie factions), LCN, left over renegades and independents. all notable guys in new england.
Posted By: IvyLeague

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 08/13/13 11:20 PM

Originally Posted By: lic
DAMN good chart ivy, its hilarious billy's the youngest on there
seems revere, medford and eastie are the only places left fro somewhat young talent.

Mylist is guys of all affilation WHG( somerville and southie factions), LCN, left over renegades and independents. all notable guys in new england.


Giving credit where it's due, the chart was compiled by Pogo. Most know him as the foremost "chart guy" on these forums.
Posted By: lic

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 08/13/13 11:21 PM

You shoud add john scarpelli and sal marino too possible made guys.... pretty sure greg costa got made with billy angelesco in 2002... angelesco's a violent guy and costa ran a small crew and a succesful betting office.
Posted By: Dellacroce

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 08/13/13 11:42 PM

Where would peter limone be on that chart? On know hes on strict parole restrictions, theres like a list of like over a 100 people connected to the family that he cant meet with but is he still the offcial boss?
Posted By: lic

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 08/14/13 12:20 AM

limone is boss or underboss in my book... dont see the the title being in providence these days.. they got the orginazition and the history but not the numbers... rhode island is such asmall state they only have one state prison.
Posted By: lic

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 08/14/13 12:22 AM

im guna try and post a somerville WHG chart and a southie WHG chart and mayb a revised LCN, and a clean list of renegades and independents
Posted By: lic

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 08/14/13 12:29 AM

adam hart- gambling kingpin cape cod

george upton- leader of succesful high end robbery crew.... upton murdered steve mcqueen in 1998 dumped his body of the harbor... upton is doing a lengthly federal prison sentence for art thefts... cops found one his stashs and he was scared to spend some of the money soo it had been sitting collecting mold.

two top criminals in cape cod

hart is a quincy native but moved to cape cod in his 20's
Posted By: casertassquare

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 08/14/13 03:31 AM

Been lurking for awhile and figured i'd throw my 2 cents in on a subject i know a little about. The list by wiseguy/ivyleague is pretty good but incomplete. dont know much about the boston faction but i know frank imbruglia is dead and vinnie fed works as a local 25 Teamster.
Based on my own observations and bullshiting with connected guys in providence its my understanding that there are 17 made guys in providence and it breaks down like this: 2 guys who flipped deluca and castagna(who may or may not be dead- hes in WPP).Theres 7 guys in the can luigi,the saint,chippy,bobo,richie b,eddy lato(believed to be 1 of the 2 shooters of kevin hanrahan)and matty g. (matty had the biggest crew and was a MAJOR earner but when he gets out soon his crew is either in jail or scattered into the 4 corners).
Then there is 5 guys who could be considered "inactive" in 1 way or another. pat galea(know little about him cept he can be seen hanging in restaurants on the hill) jr(who only lends out money to those close to him) joe ruggerio (the mob bank so to speak.he owns 4 car dealerships and a shitton of property. a papergangster). Blackjack (think jr soprano toward the end-an old man getting a few envelopes from other old men)Blaise (owns a bunch of property including the spot across the street from the best pizza joint in RI and a major book. doesn't do time well.
That leaves 3 guys who could be considered active and believe me their nervous as hell and know there being watched. joe achille, vito and anthony p. They get envelopes from bakeries, book, etc and anthony is a power in local 251 Teamsters. Thats about it. My suggestion to anyone who thinks there is 25-30 made guys here is to go see the smokes on potters ave and beam up on more jumbo hubba.
Its over in Providence and it aint coming back. 10 years from now the mob will be a story kent county grandfathers tell their disinterested and bored grandkids.
Posted By: vegasskip

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 08/14/13 03:41 AM

Hi guys....just jumping in to clarify some info on Taunton and Gordon O'Brien. Taunton was always a LCN hotspot though very quitely. Due to it's central location and ease to Boston, Providence, Cape, etc. and all the highways going through it. It was also a major gambling spot with both the old Taunton Dog Track and nearby Raynham Dog Track. Go back decades and you had the WW2 POW Camp Myles Standish. The city's Italian population is very small, mainly Portugeese, Puerto Rican, Black and French and OC was always under the local Portugeese mobsters. Up until the mid '60's they reported to the North End but after a power struggle the "new guard" reported to Providence via a captain...for years the Saint. Ray Sr. was always smart to let the locals run things on their own and not interfere. In the past decade the influence of LCN has waned in Taunton with the old timers retiring, etc.. Not sure who runs things now as I no longer live there or am involved.

Gordon O'Brien was the scariest person I have ever met....period! And I have spent my life around OMG members! He NEVER EVER worked for Tim Mello. They were friends and at times partners. And Tim never had pull in Taunton. Gordon was sent to Walpole in '70 for rape and did about 23 years. While there he was the BOSS...and the stories of his having a pet German Shepard in his cell are true. Priror to Walpole..pre 1970..he made a rep as a enforcer and collector while still a teenager. After his release he worked alot with Tim Mello and Cadillac Frank both of whom he met in Walpole. What made him so important in the underworld was his connections and during the Boston/Providence war he was valued as a messenger for both sides. Although well connected he never joined up with any group and worked on his own. And he remained a very feared freelance enforcer. Some people say he was part of the Southie/Winter Hill scene but he never had much to do with them. Although Irish he stuck with the Italians and Portugeese.In early 2000 or so he got caught smuggling dope to the Islands and did about 8 more years in Walpole and died after his release. I knew him via my family my whole life and he was the real deal.
Posted By: IvyLeague

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 08/14/13 05:35 AM

Originally Posted By: lic
limone is boss or underboss in my book... dont see the the title being in providence these days.. they got the orginazition and the history but not the numbers... rhode island is such asmall state they only have one state prison.


Limone was identified as acting boss at one point. But he was then charged in that gambling bust. If he had continued as the boss or acting boss, Anthony DiNunzio wouldn't have been the acting boss afterward. I could see Limone possibly being a member of the administration or a captain in Boston though.

Originally Posted By: casertassquare
Been lurking for awhile and figured i'd throw my 2 cents in on a subject i know a little about. The list by wiseguy/ivyleague is pretty good but incomplete. dont know much about the boston faction but i know frank imbruglia is dead and vinnie fed works as a local 25 Teamster.


First, thanks for the info. Do you know what year Imbruglia died? And you're saying Vinny Federico is no longer in prison?

Quote:
Based on my own observations and bullshiting with connected guys in providence its my understanding that there are 17 made guys in providence and it breaks down like this: 2 guys who flipped deluca and castagna(who may or may not be dead- hes in WPP).Theres 7 guys in the can luigi,the saint,chippy,bobo,richie b,eddy lato(believed to be 1 of the 2 shooters of kevin hanrahan)and matty g. (matty had the biggest crew and was a MAJOR earner but when he gets out soon his crew is either in jail or scattered into the 4 corners).


Who is Richie B?

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Then there is 5 guys who could be considered "inactive" in 1 way or another. pat galea(know little about him cept he can be seen hanging in restaurants on the hill) jr(who only lends out money to those close to him) joe ruggerio (the mob bank so to speak.he owns 4 car dealerships and a shitton of property. a papergangster). Blackjack (think jr soprano toward the end-an old man getting a few envelopes from other old men)Blaise (owns a bunch of property including the spot across the street from the best pizza joint in RI and a major book. doesn't do time well.
That leaves 3 guys who could be considered active and believe me their nervous as hell and know there being watched. joe achille, vito and anthony p. They get envelopes from bakeries, book, etc and anthony is a power in local 251 Teamsters. Thats about it.


By "Blaise" do you mean Blaise Marfeo? And who is Anthony P?

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My suggestion to anyone who thinks there is 25-30 made guys here is to go see the smokes on potters ave and beam up on more jumbo hubba.
Its over in Providence and it aint coming back. 10 years from now the mob will be a story kent county grandfathers tell their disinterested and bored grandkids.


I pretty much agree with your overall assessment. For the record, the 25-30 made guys in Boston is a total figure. Not just guys who are active on the street.
Posted By: casertassquare

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 08/14/13 06:06 AM

hello Wiseguy/ivyleague. Frank died in 2009. vinnies been out for years. Saw him a few weeks ago. He works as a teamster and may also be working for a construction company in boston forget the name but there huge up there.Richie b= bonafiglia. his cousin is "scarface" jenkins who got pinched in the shakedown with eddie lato. Yes blaise marfeo. anthony p is parillo. He's a heavy hitter in the teamsters movie division.
Posted By: IvyLeague

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 08/14/13 06:35 AM

Originally Posted By: casertassquare
hello Wiseguy/ivyleague. Frank died in 2009. vinnies been out for years. Saw him a few weeks ago. He works as a teamster and may also be working for a construction company in boston forget the name but there huge up there.Richie b= bonafiglia. his cousin is "scarface" jenkins who got pinched in the shakedown with eddie lato. Yes blaise marfeo. anthony p is parillo. He's a heavy hitter in the teamsters movie division.


Thanks again for the info. Much appreciated.
Posted By: chico99

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 08/14/13 12:15 PM

frank imbruglia is alive and well, albeit in a wheelchair, he is approx 70 years old.
Posted By: SEAN_SOUTH

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 08/14/13 08:08 PM

Originally Posted By: vegasskip
Hi guys....just jumping in to clarify some info on Taunton and Gordon O'Brien. Taunton was always a LCN hotspot though very quitely. Due to it's central location and ease to Boston, Providence, Cape, etc. and all the highways going through it. It was also a major gambling spot with both the old Taunton Dog Track and nearby Raynham Dog Track. Go back decades and you had the WW2 POW Camp Myles Standish. The city's Italian population is very small, mainly Portugeese, Puerto Rican, Black and French and OC was always under the local Portugeese mobsters. Up until the mid '60's they reported to the North End but after a power struggle the "new guard" reported to Providence via a captain...for years the Saint. Ray Sr. was always smart to let the locals run things on their own and not interfere. In the past decade the influence of LCN has waned in Taunton with the old timers retiring, etc.. Not sure who runs things now as I no longer live there or am involved.

Gordon O'Brien was the scariest person I have ever met....period! And I have spent my life around OMG members! He NEVER EVER worked for Tim Mello. They were friends and at times partners. And Tim never had pull in Taunton. Gordon was sent to Walpole in '70 for rape and did about 23 years. While there he was the BOSS...and the stories of his having a pet German Shepard in his cell are true. Priror to Walpole..pre 1970..he made a rep as a enforcer and collector while still a teenager. After his release he worked alot with Tim Mello and Cadillac Frank both of whom he met in Walpole. What made him so important in the underworld was his connections and during the Boston/Providence war he was valued as a messenger for both sides. Although well connected he never joined up with any group and worked on his own. And he remained a very feared freelance enforcer. Some people say he was part of the Southie/Winter Hill scene but he never had much to do with them. Although Irish he stuck with the Italians and Portugeese.In early 2000 or so he got caught smuggling dope to the Islands and did about 8 more years in Walpole and died after his release. I knew him via my family my whole life and he was the real deal.


Yeah I was taken back a bit by that one but Lic has posted some pretty good shit so I let it slide.

Great post, that's pretty much how I hear it, even men that were mean as fuck and were fucked with by nobody thought twice about fucking with O'Brien.
Posted By: Joerusso

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 08/14/13 09:54 PM

good shit fellas alot of names i can put faces with and brings me down memory lane few things i would like to correct is vinny frederico is canned no doubt about it unless theres another man with same name nd louie costa can vouch for that or anyone else who just came home cus vinny is in norfolk, limone is top dog hands down, tony dinunzio was acting on his behalf cus the old man couldn't make no moves or deal with anyone nd timmy mello is a stool pigeon so is a few others so please no stoolies huh, and as skippers go no one mentioned spucky, jimmy martorano or ferrara regardless if he is low key n claim to be inactive he is as active as cheese is just know how to meneuverlots better and no mentioned anguilos brothers kids as active being legitimate don't mean not made or an associate close to the whole family nd respected but great feedback guys nd i have more to say but got to go but will be back my wife is a pain in the brojure right now
Posted By: IvyLeague

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 08/14/13 10:38 PM

Originally Posted By: chico99
frank imbruglia is alive and well, albeit in a wheelchair, he is approx 70 years old.


I have him in his early 80's.

Also, did some checking, and it's my understanding that Vito DeLuca was deported to Italy in the late 1990's. And both Bonafiglia and Parillo were said to be associates in their recent indictments. The FBI has the total membership in Providence at 13.
Posted By: casertassquare

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 08/15/13 12:57 AM

Like i said i dont know much about the boston faction. heard frank was dead. i could be wrong . Won't be the last time. however i am 1000 percent on vinnie fed. he's out has been for a few years. hes on lifetime parole. i know what i see. he's a local 25 teamster. ask around if your as connected as you claim to be. cant make it any plainer than that.
I talked to an insider today cuz i've got some questions and doubts of my own about providence. i keep seeing a rocco folco on lists and i've never heard of him(not that im anybody special). the only rocco he knew was rocco argento a heavy hitter and the other shooter of hanrahan who died of a cocaine induced heartattack.Said louie "luigi" was pissed(at drug use). both richie and anthony are def made according to him (and a lot of other people say that as well). the feds are watchiing anthony rite now cuz of some insurance scam he and his nephew allegedly pulled. he says blaise isn't made but ive heard he is but this guy would know. yeah vito got into deportation trouble when he wacked some guys in the 80s but hes here and owns construction business and wants nothing to do with the headaches. who in Boston is gonna step to him? He's an oldtime gangster and a feared guy. Lastly im told New York is here. in the background yes and having no desire to make any serious moves. there too many FBI agents here watching too few guys. the strip clubs are happy now cuz there not kicking to anyone for once. that there should tell you how weak providence is. like i said guys are scared.
i have no rooting interest in this. if i'm wrong about certain things then so be it. i'll admit it. i'm just passing along what i know and what i hear. i grew up around it and am always interested in this like everyone else here.
Posted By: vegasskip

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 08/15/13 02:06 AM

caserta- The other shooter of Hanrahan, who died of a coke heart attack, was Gordon O'Brien according to the Providence police. There are several news videos from the Providence stations from a year or two ago talking about how the investigation is being reopened. The police say that the only person Hanrahan could trust enough to leave the bar with was Gordon....Lesson don't trust your friends! What is the word on the street in Providence in regards to the Saint's and his sons extortion bust a couple years ago? I guess the son got caught, along with the mother, on wire.
Posted By: meffaboston

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 08/15/13 01:11 PM

Limone is the boss...
Posted By: JCB1977

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 08/15/13 02:00 PM

Limone is NOT the boss, he is inactive. He was a temporary band aid when Baby Shacks stepped down. Plus that fat fuck DiNunzio never had respect from the family. They are close to being finished, trust me. My sources are the FBI and the lead investigator for WPRI Providence.
Posted By: JCB1977

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 08/15/13 02:05 PM

Manocchio, both DiNunzios, St. Laurent, Lato, Marapese, Limone, Rossetti, DeLuca (informant)and Bufalino are all gone...and they were the power players in the New England Underworld. I'm sure now, nobody thinks the Saint was that crazy or high on drugs since it was confirmed that DeLuca was in fact an informer. Joseph Ruggiero is one of the younger, more capable guys but he is a multi millionaire legitmate businessman and it was said that he wants nothing to do with the crime family that is on the brink of becoming defunct.
Posted By: ScottD

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 08/15/13 02:20 PM

Originally Posted By: vegasskip
OC was always under the local Portugeese mobsters. Up until the mid '60's they reported to the North End but after a power struggle the "new guard" reported to Providence via a captain...for years the Saint. Ray Sr. was always smart to let the locals run things on their own and not interfere. In the past decade the influence of LCN has waned in Taunton with the old timers retiring, etc.. Not sure who runs things now as I no longer live there or am involved.


This interested me, being of Portuguese descent.

Wasn't TIm mello Portuguese?
Posted By: sittite

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 08/15/13 02:43 PM

You still have Spucky....he's no joke.
Posted By: lic

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 08/15/13 02:57 PM

tim mello was portuguese fall river new bedfod had huge portuguese populations back then... its the same way souhie and charlestown are irish, eastie and north end italian..... JUST SOO EVERYONE KNOWS SCOTT DIETCHE AND MARK SILVERMAN ARE PHONY FUCKS WHO WROTE A HORRIBLE BOOK ABOUT A SUBJECT THEY DDNT KNOW AND HAD NO BUSINESS WRITING ABOU... WILL LET YOU ALL KNOW WHEN MY BOOK DROPS FOR THE REAL STORY..
Posted By: lic

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 08/15/13 03:09 PM

spucky is the revere capo...angelesco and giangrande report to him.... costa used to report to the medford capo dinunzio. either way its all fading out... the feds are all over them with surveillence and phone taps, its real tough for them too do business.. and none of the strip clubs pay them tribute anymore... i wouldnt if one of there soldiers murdered someone in my strip jiont(angelesco revere squire) THAT BIENG SIAD SPUCKY IS IN HIS 70'S BUT STILL HOLDS A PRESENCE INREVERE AND EASTIE. HIS NICKNAME COMES FROM THE LOCAL NAME FOR A SUB.. LIKE RGINDERS SUBMARINES AROUND HERE WE USED TO CALL EM SPUCKY'S.
Posted By: lic

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 08/16/13 03:55 PM

billy angelesco and gene giangrande have recently opened a handyman maintence company too hide thier illegal activities and criminal past..... not sure if id want murder's working on my house... the compnay is called G & B handyman service and maintence.
Posted By: Ville

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 08/16/13 08:59 PM

The old timers must be teaching billy the right way to do things, open a business and be discreet. Instead of running around Medford, Malden, and, Somerville trying to shake everyone down. Back before he got bagged in 2001-2002 , he was grabbing everyone, even took a Mercedes from a 19yr old who was hustling in Medford. He got a couple Somerviille bookies too, other then that, he didn't have to much luck with some other Somerville guys tho. Maybe he's sober and trying to stay clean cause I know he was at the Gavin House in southie about 6 months back. Couple Somerville guys were called to testify in the 2001 extortion case. They plead the 5th tho. Alot of guys he couldn't touch in Somerville cause they're connected to in town, or they just didnt give a fuck .
Posted By: lic

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 08/16/13 09:25 PM

haha its far too late for angelesco to try and "do the right things" hes been a crackhead and a junkie for over a decade now... giangrande has had a herion problem for over a decade... theyve shooken down alot of bookies and drug dealer sin the past... but theres far too much heat on them these days... i didnt here about him stealing a mercedes from a 19 year old kid.... not sup[rising cause he murdered a 19 year old kid bobby rogers santasky in 2000. AND to be honest i dont get it if junkballs come at you like that just shoot back.... angelesco is a loose cannon just like antohny barry was... giangrande and cahill were just there sidekicks trying to make some money of there muscle and violent ways.... angelesco lives in somerville now with his mom and son they live in winter hill....HIS MOM IS A FEDERAL PAROLE OFFICER... YOU CAN LOOK AT MY OTHER POSTS T GET THE FULL STORY ON ANGELESCO. hed be stoopid to set foot in malden or medford these days... along with local cops having a hard on hes made alot of enemies no matter how mnay ppl hes clipped..

1999 kevin mucka mccormick

2000 bobby rogers santasky

2001 peter devito squire lounge

2003 pattrick patsy squillante
Posted By: lic

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 08/16/13 09:30 PM

before the MASS state police were th eonly ones looking at these murders... but now that billy is on there radar and people are starting to realize the FBI is trying to figure out the pesifics on the malden and revere murders.... BUT ASIDE FROM THAT BILLY AND GENE HAVE ALOT OF POLITICIANS AND CORRUPT LAW ENFORCMNT ON THIER SIDE... ITS EVEN BEEN RUMORED THEY DROP INFO TO THE LAW THEMSELVES... which doesnt make sense cause thier the ones out there on the violent side of things.
Posted By: lic

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 08/16/13 09:33 PM

and a side note before mucka mccormick was murdered, he ran a very succesful prostituition ring, MANY MALDEN AND MEDFORD POLITCIANS PATRONIZED HIS HOOKERS HAAHAA.... and concerning all those renegade murders in the 90's they think a good portion of them were done by prochillo bufalino devlin and gillis... devlin and gillis are dead and prochillo and bufalino are in prison fro decent bids.
Posted By: Ville

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 08/17/13 01:41 AM

Mucka was the real deal, people say he would have been banging out ginnys left and right if he was still alive. I like that how u said if billy tried shaking people down y not shoot back. It's cause hes a made guy people think you gotta be.scared of him. Supposedly he killed a junkie, I think it was mark eldridge down the old Candelinos in Somerville. Im pretty sure he's suspect in that one too. Im suprised I haven't seen him around, if he's living in Somerville. People that aren't from around here don't understand that the Italians aren't the only ones with power like New York. No one in Ctown or Somerville pays rent to the North End.
Posted By: lic

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 08/17/13 06:49 AM

yeah alot people say that about mucka, he didnt give a fuck about that ginny shit... and i really dont either. LCN and WHG are both dead. ( both somerville and southie factions). in the early days there were no factions the guys from the city mixed it up with all the somerville and greater bosotn guys.. they considered themselves one.... it was more likely back then that a gangster from dorchester or roxbury would have an alliance with the somerville guys like howie winter and joe macdonald... but those things have changed over the years. whitey ruined everything. howie and his guys just didnt murder people like the guys in town did. AND YOUR WORNG ABOUT THE RENT THING BUDDY GUYS FROM SOUTHIE FACTION ARE BACKED BY THE GENOVES AND GAMBINO NY FAMILIES INSTEAD OF PATRIARCA... MANY OF THE SOUTHIE AND SOMERVILLE GUYS DID FEDERAL BIDS WITH NY AND CHICAGO GANGSTERS AND CHANGED ALLIANCES. joey yerardi, arthur gianelli and joey mongiello wo are the only prominent bookies left in somerville all paid rent to patriarca fat cheese dinunzio.... to be honest with you VILLE the charlestown guys are the ones who always did thier own thing... plus they never made enough money to pay up anyways, back in the day there man thing was stealing cargo of the docks... many of them were longshoremen. AND TO BE HONEST WIT HYOU VILLE THIS IS ALL FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE... HARDLY ANY ONE PAYS ANY OF THESE GREASEBALLS ANYMORE NY OR NEW ENGLAND.... ITS ALL DIENG OUT AND EVERY CREW HAS THERE OWN MUSCLE AND GUYS WILLING TO SHOOT IT OUT... ANGELESCO IS JUST A NUT AND CARES MORE ABOUT HIS SUPPOSED JUNKIE HONOR THAN LIVING A NORMAL LIFE. i grew up with alot of these guys all over. and i heard the same thing about that murder at the candelinos jiont in somerville... the candelinos used to have slot machines in all the lcubs... butlike i siad its soo watered doen these days... and for your info he lives on marshal st wink coincitedently where the old winter hill headquarters used to be.... the building still has the JFK memorial on it... damn i miss the old massachusetts
PS even howie winter used to send briefcases of money too the north end... he was recently busted trying to dshakedown a real estate guy at the medford sons of italy.. alot of the old timers are just as broke as you and i these dys.
Posted By: lic

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 08/17/13 07:14 AM

alot of the shakedowns of herion dealers in malden, medford, stoneham, melrose are done by a guy named duillio 'lelo' fabbo... hes a teamster. he drives movie stars around when they film movies in boston. coincedemtly hes always had a problem with angelesco and mucka mccormick back in the day..
Posted By: southend

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 08/17/13 02:07 PM

Couple months back somebody said Angelesco and Lilo Fabo were seen in eachothers company at some barbershop
Posted By: Ville

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 08/17/13 04:25 PM

I know its first hand knowledge thats y i write it, Im not gonna put peoples business on here that u cant read about on the internet or a book. I know its all dieing out but u contradict yourself when u say they are backed by NY and Chicago. Why would they be backed by them if they arent paying anything. And Mongiello is definitly not the only prominent bookie, he works down Johns Auto and i know the guys that work down there, couple townies work there too. Lelo is partners with a few Somerville guys, but Im not gonna mention names. I know all about Howie and the shakedown at the Sons of "Irish". Im born and raised in Somerville and been around this shit since i was 13. In one sentence u say the Hogans were sucking cock in the can, and then u say the southie crew is backed by NY or Chicago. All they do is sit outside the D street Deli all day
Posted By: pmac

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 08/17/13 05:52 PM

I remember a cahill he was from the town he looked just like the politician. he did big time think he out today cool guy bad ass mofo. never would want to cross that guy.
Posted By: casertassquare

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 08/18/13 12:57 AM

yo ville, you ever hit wakely the bookies joint- the paddock? when i was in that area i would pop in there years ago. outside of casertas, tommys on chalkstone and santarpios in eastie its was the best pie i've had in NE. his kid the ocd motherfucker used to drive me nuts. always hovering over and making us uncomfortable. heard he tried to pull conected guy shit but he never did it to us. just a fuckin weirdo. heard its closed now. so billy angelesco lives around the corner from the paddock huh. it seems like that area is mostly hispanic/brazilian now.
years ago i used to run with a wild girl in east cambridge. she introduced me to the old wiseguy who has the laundrymat in east cambridge where you could find all kinds of action. even the crooked cops rolled there. not gonna mention his name or location cuz hes still there(the roast beef place is nearby). joey macs on the east/somerville border was run buy an oldtime WHG guy. lots of coke and keno and bets there. used to blow coke off of her a...,wait, what? how about irish eyes in union square? moving coke right across the street from the somerville precinct haha.
years ago i always heard the Fathers bars (think the tam, beacon hill pub, and that bar in chestnut hill are all thats left mary lous or maryanss?) were all WHG owned/silent partner. not from there-providence guy- thats what i heard or seen or something.
Posted By: casertassquare

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 08/18/13 01:12 AM

vegasskip, i dunno that i can give you any specific info thaat u cant get from the news but here goes... years ago the saint used to run his book out of pucci and richard angells joint the foxy lady right off the highway. not really a gambler so i would nod and thats the extent of it. had a decent book and was shaking down guys in the south shore, independents who are/were weak. its not that uncommon to have guys drop payments off with s/o's. he copped a plea and thats that. i dont think anyone is activelly looking to find his kid and give him money. the saint for his faults beleived deluca was a rat. problem was the guys he wanted to wack him were not right. dont want to get into it on a public forum.
Posted By: vegasskip

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 08/18/13 04:10 AM

casertas- I knew the Saint for a good part of my life....even went to his house in Johnston for News Years Eve a few times. Decent guy, had his faults but who don't. I'm well aware of the extortion deal and the bookies involved. I was just wondering what the word in Providence is in regards to the problem. My guess is that they don't care and good riddence feelings.
Posted By: player

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 08/18/13 01:35 PM

vegasskip, I was there on easter many years ago did he have a boxer
Posted By: southend

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 08/18/13 02:18 PM

lic-or someone- Brian Cahill, AB's codefendant in the Mucka murder had done a bid for manslaughter before. do you know any details on that case?
Posted By: lic

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 08/18/13 04:36 PM

it was a 1982 manslaughter armed robbery, coincedetnyl it took place in the parking lot of the 99 in charlestown... cahills acomplice was a townie, ill call him RED( not southie red) they set up a coke dealer from roslindale, and when the kid fought back they stuck him.... he ended up bleeding to death cahill got 7-10 i beleive. and RED i dot know what he got... someone siad he ratted cahill out.... Although cahill worked in medford and malden with anthony barry, angelesco and giangrande back inthe day, he also worked with billy brymer in southie, and also a few guys from charlestown and east bosotn. cahills father Tom cahill was a coke trafficker that worked with red shea in southie and a few charlestown guys. when whitey bulger ratted the southie coke ring out only 3 members out of dozens didnt rat..... TOM CAHILL, JOHN RED SHEA AND GEORGIE BOY HOGAN.
Posted By: lic

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 08/18/13 04:39 PM

SOUTHEND- did you know about the beavs first bid... i stated it before but its a good story... a guy came to the pool barry was working at as a lifeguard and he siad barry couldnt sell drugs in medford or malden anymore, the guy was welding a knife barry took the knife from him and tabbed him whith his own blade.... And to be honest guys like cahill, richard gillis and richard devlin were more convicts than gangsters those dudes spent most of there young lifes in walpole state prison.
Posted By: lic

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 08/18/13 04:43 PM

this kid ville is a joke stuck in his somerville small mindedness. HAHA if the somerville faction of WHG was soo strong in the 90's then why did barry, cahill, angelesco and giangrande take over there turf??? there were other players that didnt carry as much wieght like lonnie hilson, joey mongiello, kevin hardy, niel mazza, joe donahue, kevin mucka mccormick etc..... all tough dudes.
Posted By: lic

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 08/18/13 05:23 PM

damnnn.... good post, surprised your from providence wit hlocal knowledge like that.. the paddock is under new ownership.. and santarpios is by far the best around... 90 percent of what you said about the somerville jionts is true... my mother used to work as a wiatress in one of th ejionts u mentioned... haha dont want to post too much more cause i used to drink at some of the bars you mentioned soo let sleave it at that.
Posted By: casertassquare

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 08/18/13 06:24 PM

thats fucking bullshit!!!! only 3? tell that to kevin mcdonald aka "andre the giant" and michael c. they both did serious time in allenwood and the camp later. both STAND UP GUYS!!!!! shanghied by that rat fuck whitey. i'll tell anyone who'll listen... put whitey and stevey on the duck boat, hang em and drive around boston to let people pelt those 2 scumbags ala mussolini in the nuts!!!!
Posted By: casertassquare

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 08/18/13 06:45 PM

vegasskip, johnston is were mobsters go to retire haha. blackjack is there. 3 years ago we put my beloved grandmother in a "retirment community" ,whos her roomate? the wife of a gangster and her son who was clipped back in the 90's. can't help but laugh. i mean rhode island right?
Posted By: player

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 08/18/13 07:08 PM

casertassquare, do you mean that all the mobsters go and retire at caserta pizza up the hill
Posted By: vegasskip

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 08/18/13 09:37 PM

Player....I do not remember a boxer. It was over 20 years ago when I last went to his home. What I remember was that the door/stairwell to the basement via the inside of the home had a locked metal gate on it. Never saw that in a home before! i remember one Christmas when the Saint and his son made homemade red wine and during the party kept filling my glass with it over and over again....and not to knock the guy but it was wretched!
Posted By: player

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 08/18/13 09:59 PM

vegasskip, when i went to saint's house i don't ever rember him making home made wine. so you don't know if he had any dogs
Posted By: Ville

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 08/18/13 10:39 PM

Yea I grew up on the paddock pizza, my uncle that I mentioned owned a bar with Paul Walker, him and wakely were real good friends. His kid was a joke tho. Buddy ur trying to tell me Barry, angelesco and that.crew took over somervilles turf in the 90s then your wrong cause in the 90s you had.fat Al, Kevin Hardy, Niel Mazza, Gus Sidote, and that crew that hung out at.the Moose Club. And in the 2000s Somerville had guys that im not gonna mention. You sound like a fucking rat lic, like that guy.vinnygorgeous that use to post on the boston threads. I must know u who u r if u use to be so involved in this shit. Im a joke, pm me ur name then
Posted By: vegasskip

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 08/18/13 11:22 PM

Player....I do not recall any dogs off the top of my head. Being that it was a party I'm sure they were put away if there were any. You are lucky you did not have to taste that wine...really terrible! But he was a good host and proud of that wine.
Posted By: player

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 08/18/13 11:48 PM

vegasskip, i think you have the wrong guy when i was there i remember there where dogs. vegasskip how many kids did he have?
Posted By: Ville

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 08/19/13 01:57 AM

And I never said the WHG was strong in the 90s, all that was left was.the guys.from the Moose Club and by then the hill was done, late 90s and 2000s Somerville, had independent crews doing shit, and Angelesco and his guys weren't shaking these guys down. Richie Sperlinga was.considered to be one of the few Winter Hill guys that may have been doings things before.he died and him and Howie were very close. And the independent crews are still around. Your obviously an older guy with the info your posting.
Posted By: vegasskip

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 08/19/13 02:55 AM

Player.....I'm glad you remember dogs....I don't! I also know whose home I was at. His son was there and the sons gf/wife. I do not know how many other kids he has. The couple of visits were holiday get togethers...either XMAas Eve or New Years Eve. Why the hell would I make this up?
Posted By: southend

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 08/22/13 02:41 PM

Originally Posted By: lic
SOUTHEND- did you know about the beavs first bid... i stated it before but its a good story... a guy came to the pool barry was working at as a lifeguard and he siad barry couldnt sell drugs in medford or malden anymore, the guy was welding a knife barry took the knife from him and tabbed him whith his own blade.... And to be honest guys like cahill, richard gillis and richard devlin were more convicts than gangsters those dudes spent most of there young lifes in walpole state prison.


I saw the post, but I wasn't aware Anthony had done a state bid back in the day. I thought he did like a year in Billerica house for a gun charge. The story u describe sure sounds like a typical Anthony story though. About Cahill and Devlin/Gillis, your probably right, there's a lot of guys like that from and around Boston especially Charlestown,Malden,Eastie,Somerville,Medford. But they are useful and lotta the time trustworthy because they aren't worried about going back to the joint and seeing the fellas be it state or federal, the federal system is packed with boston guys
Posted By: Meffa47

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 09/11/13 05:41 PM

I just heard Tory Marino is out and shanked someone recently?.....he used to bang that smoking blonde Baxter girl from meffa who worked at worlds gym Somerville years back.
What was the name of that kid that got killed in front of mike mochas house back in 94 or 95. BA and AB were in on that too
Posted By: paddy78

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 09/11/13 07:50 PM

def most standup people you will find in any prison mci mass are from BOS area, i know in fed the fellas all get to form alliances to grow the oc on the out but in walpole us boston guys,ctown,southie sit and eat, not like when we was kids fighting, i like lics posts and he doesnt seem suspect at all ville, id check yaself before you speak,he may be closer than you realize
Posted By: sittite

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 09/11/13 07:55 PM

Marino and scarpelli are out and have been for a bit.....shanked someone????
Posted By: Ville

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 09/12/13 03:32 AM

Why should i check myself before i speak paddy? Please tell me. He may be closer then i think. What are you trying to say pal? Your from southie, so you agree with Lic, when he stated that the Hogans were sucking dick in federal prison. Dont come at me like that, we are on the fucking internet dickhead. You havent posted one legit thing on here. You post stupid comments that arent funny and whatever facts you have tried to post, have been bollshit and you dont even know what ur talking about. So i suggest you check yourself before you speak. Im right here in Somerville and Charlestown brother.
Posted By: southend

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 09/12/13 10:15 AM

Originally Posted By: Meffa47
I just heard Tory Marino is out and shanked someone recently?.....he used to bang that smoking blonde Baxter girl from meffa who worked at worlds gym Somerville years back.
What was the name of that kid that got killed in front of mike mochas house back in 94 or 95. BA and AB were in on that too


Macarelli
Posted By: paddy78

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 09/12/13 03:23 PM

your right i dont post or dry snitch on the internet i dont inform i dont tell, i read and learn,what not to do,your a townie huh? or is it somerville? no i dont agree abt that on the hogans, you clownies wouldnt dare say such things in d street,where i reside,but anyhow yes you should think before you talk abt stuff on here,your calling him out im saying your dry snitching bro! w96173 my number whats yours?
Posted By: paddy78

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 09/12/13 03:26 PM

im not on here to argue or whatever, but someone dearly close to me name was mentioned in something, that is an open case , so please before we start blabbing, think
Posted By: JCB1977

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 09/13/13 03:33 PM

Wait a minute, Georgie Boy Hogan sucked cock? What is his story? Is the Winter Hill Gang even structured or active?
Posted By: JCB1977

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 09/13/13 03:48 PM

Hey Wiseguy,

Francesco Angiulo was alive and still living at 98 Prince ST in the North End as of 2013. I believe he is the only brother still alive.
Posted By: JCB1977

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 09/13/13 03:52 PM

Santarpios and Regina's in the North End have excellent pie, Caserta's and Sicilia's does as well on the Hill...but a hidden gem in Massachusetts is Bianchi's Pizza at Revere Beach as well as a place called Carluccio's on the Cape in Dennis. Everybody knows the Cape has shitty pizza for true pizza lovers, but Carluccio's is over the top crazy good, especially the Sicilian style.
Posted By: JCB1977

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 09/13/13 03:54 PM

Could anybody give me some info on Richie The Pig, the constant sidekick of Anthony "The Spaccone" DiNunzio? He isn't made, is he? Also, who is the skinny guy with big glasses that worked in the Fresh Cheese Shop when it relocated from Endicott St to Fleet St?
Posted By: paddy78

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 09/13/13 04:01 PM

no georgie boy def did not perform such acts. someone on here said he was a in awe of others in fed prison,he is a great guy to the community,much like pat nee and not out for publicity unlike pat nee.
Posted By: paddy78

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 09/13/13 04:05 PM

jcb alot of questions for a historian,i for one will not comment on current state matters of whg,but was am very close to joe macdonald relative,he was a legend
Posted By: JCB1977

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 09/13/13 04:16 PM

Paddy,

All my research has been based on Pittsburgh/Youngstown/Cleveland, where I am from. I love to read about New England, but have no interest in pursuing a project on the Patriarca's. However, I have contacts in Federal LE in Providence and Boston and as LE has said to me that Gambale is not significant, but I've seen plenty of photos of him and fat Anthony together.
Posted By: lic

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 09/13/13 06:06 PM

jcb, i dont really care or trust what you say... street knowledge is more vauluble than whatever you get from your police/FBI RAT contacts... HAHA if you and the FBI are soo tight and knowledgable than how come you havent solved any of the 7 seven murders connected to those medford wiseguys AB, BA, GG... haha tell me that one..
Posted By: lic

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 09/13/13 06:07 PM

Just so everyone knows that rumor(just a rumor) was started by suffolk county correction officers in the 80's....
Posted By: lic

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 09/13/13 06:17 PM

theres two factions, they split in mid 90s after flemmi, whitey were confirmed as rats... not to mention the dozens of other lcn WHG guys who ratted after finding out whitey was a rat... YOU DONT HAVE TO RAT ON SOMEONE JUST CAUSE THEY RATTED ON YOU... DELUCA, MARTARANO, SALEMME just to name a few.

Theres the somerville WHG faction... that operated in the greater boston area(ALL OVER MIDDLESEX, ESSEX, AND NORFOLK COUNTIES)... there is no one man in charge... but guys like niel mazza, joey yerardi( original member) joey mongiello(medford) are respected. then theres drug dealers that are alligned with them like donny johnson etc.. it weld's nowhere near as much power and respect as in the days of howie winter buddy mclean, whitey bulger etc...


THen theres the southie faction( D street boys)- siad to headed by georgie boy and billy hogan( some also say tom cahill and andre the giant play a role) But they almost exclusively operate in 5 five nieghborhoods and citys- SOUTHIE, QUINCY, EVERETT, DORCHESTER AND CAMBRIDGE.. PAUL WALKER AND TOMMY RYAN OF CAMBRIDGE ARE ALLIGNED WITH THESE GUYS.

Posted By: JCB1977

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 09/13/13 06:20 PM

Lic,

I'm not investigating anything in New England. The research I have done for several authors was regarding a family member of mine living in CT (Stamford) shaking down unions and heavily involved with loansharking. He is now serving time in prison. There were a few guys from Boston/Providence that came up in my research that were connected to him. I'm not trying to solve any murders, so settle down. I'm from Youngstown, OH originally and I had some of my family members who were heavily involved in the rackets in Pittsburgh and Cleveland. I'm not any kind of a rat, but I do professional research for authors in my spare time. I'm a Nursing Home Administrator in Massachusetts, nothing more. I'm not in the rackets, not connected to anybody in the New England rackets. I agree that some street knowledge is better than some law enforcement knowledge...however, the Federal Government has decimated 18 of the 26 original mafia families thus far. The only families left with a "structured hierarchy" are the 5 in NY, Chicago, Philly, Detroit. Every other mob family in the U.S are on life support...especially New England.
Posted By: Joerusso

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 09/13/13 10:47 PM

your wrong again jcb is it in rebuilding yea definitely but life support far from it buddy theres alot of old school gangsters around and not to impressed with dinunzio bros at all but rather see them take the heat .... limone is a great leader and will straighten things out in time gambale is a gangster he can be wreckless but not under valued at all so is spucky dee dee simone ferrara bobby russo jimmy martorano pingaro capone and bunch others soo if you dont know the inner circle and the capability and structure dont assume... the feds got what they got but thats not much compared to the whole scuplture of things and prov was and always will be full of gangsters they are loaded with gangsters believe me on that sleep on them if you want
Posted By: MANTON

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 09/13/13 11:29 PM

EDDY LATO CALLED ANTHONY DINUNZIO A SPACCONE ON WIRETAP TO BOBBY DELUCA WHEN HE RECORDED HIM TALKING ABOUT THE STRIP CLUB ENVELOPES.because he was giving the $$$ out to the other guys up there. thats not his nickname why do u keep calling him that would u go call him that to his face?? AND WHAT IS IT IS HE A SPACCONE OR NOT I THOUGHT U SAID HE HAS NO CLASS HE WEARS RUNNING SHOES AND SWEATPANTS??

THERE ARE LOT OF OLD SCHOOL GUYS STILL KICKING BUT IF ANYONE WANTS TO STEP UP THEY NEED TO GET THERE FUCKIN HEAD CHECKED. half the guys mentioned here are all rats. thats why THE OLD MAN put all the guys "on the shelf" LOOK AT THIS THE KID BILLY THAT KILLED PETER DEVITO IS SMOKING CRACK??? NOT SUPRISED YOU USED TO HAVE TO HAVE CLASS BE A GENTLEMAN A MAN OF RESPECT NOW ALL U GOTTA DO IS MURDER PEOPLE HAVE NO CONSCINCE AND U R A BUTTON GUY. WHAT A JOKE.
Posted By: JCB1977

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 09/14/13 02:41 AM

I know, the point I made was referring to my statement that none of his underlings had respect for him. He was a PIG..OINK! OINK! Split the $$ equally amongst your top guys from both factions. I wonder if he's having dreams about manicotti, fat blabber mouth moron...met his demise fast.
Posted By: JCB1977

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 09/14/13 02:43 AM

Agreed with the second paragraph completely
Posted By: JCB1977

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 09/14/13 02:51 AM

Never said dead...I said life support. Many of the most active guys are in jail, or on the run. Age and attrition has definitely caught up with them. They have been severely weakened to say the least. No structure or hierarchy on the street to lead. Guys are left sure, but how many of the aforementioned guys are up there in years or have the energy to chase that nickel, especially if they followed suit like most old timers and packed a parachute and did the right thing with their money. Limone should count his millions and retire. He was away a long time and was a mere card and dice operator when he went away, then he deposits over $150k into his checking or savings account...not too bright, was in a cage during the technology age. Stunad!! Chief Crazy Horse should go to Palm Springs and live stress free.
Posted By: Michaeleast

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 12/30/13 09:41 PM

Most of this shit u people are writing is bullshit I grew up with most of these guys in my life me and my father are to names on here east Cambridge guys and all u guys talking shit about billy bein a rat that's bull shit anglesco is a stand up kid can't say the same for some others just so some. If u no richi gills is like a uncle to me he's not dead billy barnoski who was my dads partner just passed away rip one of the most feared gansters Boston ever had a lot of u guys are talking out of line so watch your mouth or say your name and let it be knowing who you are so people no who's putting jackets on people u don't do that my name is Michael Mcqueeney jr I hide nothing dukey kenney is a good friend of mine most of these older guys I grew up around Brian Cahill is a stone cold fa***t who sucks dick that's a fact did time with him me and my dad he's a homo any real questions about this stuff hit me up
Posted By: azguy

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 12/30/13 11:27 PM

Originally Posted By: Michaeleast
Most of this shit u people are writing is bullshit I grew up with most of these guys in my life me and my father are to names on here east Cambridge guys and all u guys talking shit about billy bein a rat that's bull shit anglesco is a stand up kid can't say the same for some others just so some. If u no richi gills is like a uncle to me he's not dead billy barnoski who was my dads partner just passed away rip one of the most feared gansters Boston ever had a lot of u guys are talking out of line so watch your mouth or say your name and let it be knowing who you are so people no who's putting jackets on people u don't do that my name is Michael Mcqueeney jr I hide nothing dukey kenney is a good friend of mine most of these older guys I grew up around Brian Cahill is a stone cold fa***t who sucks dick that's a fact did time with him me and my dad he's a homo any real questions about this stuff hit me up


I see you're highly educated, lol..

How did you find this site, I see this was your 1st post...
Posted By: LaLouisiane

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 12/30/13 11:42 PM

Originally Posted By: Michaeleast
Most of this shit u people are writing is bullshit I grew up with most of these guys in my life me and my father are to names on here east Cambridge guys and all u guys talking shit about billy bein a rat that's bull shit anglesco is a stand up kid can't say the same for some others just so some. If u no richi gills is like a uncle to me he's not dead billy barnoski who was my dads partner just passed away rip one of the most feared gansters Boston ever had a lot of u guys are talking out of line so watch your mouth or say your name and let it be knowing who you are so people no who's putting jackets on people u don't do that my name is Michael Mcqueeney jr I hide nothing dukey kenney is a good friend of mine most of these older guys I grew up around Brian Cahill is a stone cold fa***t who sucks dick that's a fact did time with him me and my dad he's a homo any real questions about this stuff hit me up


I swear these dudes are starting to pop up on a daily basis..
Posted By: Michaeleast

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 12/31/13 12:09 AM

I found out about the site with all these people that talk shit about people they don't no cause I'm one of the guys named in the site I'm one of the McQueeneys my dad is the other who people try and act like they no six to seven of these guys are family to me and a few more are good friends and solid guys people are trying to put dirt on there names all I'm saying if your going to call some one a rat put your name or say it to the person not on some web site were they no hardly anything I no theses guys Irish and italian there good guys we only head a few bags of shit unlike ny and other places were for every good guy there's a rat we had jimmy bugler whitey and a few homos from his crew the rest are stand up guys but as far as my self my name and a few of my friends names are mentioned on this and I have nothing to hide anymore so I figured I'll defend my friends and if some one has something they want to ask me message me personally and if u have a big mouth I don't get in to computer fights do message me to talk shit and put your address or a place to meet me or shut up but I'm all for good conversation
Posted By: Michaeleast

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 12/31/13 12:40 AM

Vinny fed is out now
Posted By: Michaeleast

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 12/31/13 12:49 AM

Richie gillis is still alive and well he's like an uncle to me
Posted By: carmela

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 12/31/13 12:57 AM

Originally Posted By: Michaeleast
I found out about the site with all these people that talk shit about people they don't no cause I'm one of the guys named in the site I'm one of the McQueeneys.....


I gotta say, I did a search and I don't see anyone mentioning your name but you. grin
Posted By: Michaeleast

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 12/31/13 01:05 AM

Guess u can't read look at your little list on page one and read down under Johnson's of Somerville Mcqueeney dukey Kenny billy barnoski richie gillis buddy those are my people your some clown who sits on your computer at home wishing you new some one look down the list the only guy that was above my dad was Paul walker and billy barnoski
Posted By: carmela

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 12/31/13 01:07 AM

Originally Posted By: Michaeleast
your some clown who sits on your computer at home wishing you new some one


frown
Posted By: Michaeleast

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 12/31/13 01:11 AM

Dude your from nj were from different worlds buddy
Posted By: mike68

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 12/31/13 02:29 AM

Originally Posted By: Michaeleast
Dude your from nj were from different worlds buddy


Just sayin', pretty sure the 'dude' Carmela is a lady.
Posted By: Dellacroce

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 12/31/13 02:35 AM

he doesn't care mike, Michealeast speaks for da streets!!
Posted By: Michaeleast

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 12/31/13 07:04 PM

Lic it's plane to see we're from these areas and we no the real deal as far as billy a I did time with him he was good there but out here different person I respect u for putting your name out there like me nothing but respect some people have different views on people but that don't make one right a not the other I live off pearl right. Next to the old paddock the owners son was a weirdo I rember siting o. Joe macs lap as a kid in there he loved me wow how much I miss him and a lot of the guy
Posted By: Michaeleast

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 12/31/13 07:09 PM

Mite be a drag queen lol ii don't no I don't care it gave me shit my dad. And. Me are on the boston List that all I was sayin try. To fix some untrue stuff
Posted By: JCB1977

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 01/01/14 06:00 PM

You're tooting your horn a little, no? I've never heard your name mentioned and if you are an OG, this is probably the wrong forum to post your business. Never heard of you, but good luck on the streets.
Posted By: JCB1977

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 01/01/14 06:04 PM

Are you saying you're part of the Irish gang in Southie? Hoagie & company? The Irish still have a few remnants leftover? Nobody wishes they knew one of those clowns, this is nothing more than a site for organized crime buffs...guarantee there is some kind of local/federal monitoring on these sites. Billy Angelesco is a heroin junky, no? Many say his weakness is the needle. True?
Posted By: Ville

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 01/01/14 10:35 PM

JCB your a fucking wise mouth, you don't know shit about the guys Michealeast is talking about. And he is correct on everything he mentioned. Finally someone else who knows their shit when it comes to Somerville and Cambridge and the Winter Hill fellas. He's admitting to Paul Walker being the big guy in Cambridge and he's not lieing. His name is on the list Lic put on here and I know alot of the.same stuff he's talking about.
Posted By: Ville

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 01/01/14 11:10 PM

And the stuff he's mentioning is common knowledge if your from these areas. He's not putting anyones business out there that isnt already known. And of coarse the feds look at this site, it's a public forum. You seem to be the fed JCB, trying to goat Michealeast into answering those questions. And you ask about Billy and the H when you already know the answer.from all the shit people have talked about.Billy on here. Stop being.so fucking.nosey, you start trouble at.every chance you get.
Posted By: JCB1977

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 01/02/14 04:54 PM

Just strikes me as odd why somebody who may or may not be a part of a criminal enterprise would be commenting on here. I didn't know that the Irish still have a gang selling dope and hustling. I don't know Michaeleast, got no beef with him, and I have no knowledge of the Irish gangs in Boston...nor do I give a fuck.
Posted By: Ville

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 01/02/14 08:21 PM

Hes commenting because people on here talked about his family and friends. If you dont give a fuck then why are you asking him questions, obviously you have some interest, or your just a nosey prick or a fed. And who said the Irish were still hustling and selling dope, cause he didnt say shit about that
Posted By: JCB1977

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 01/02/14 10:35 PM

Find a midget and sit on it
Posted By: Ville

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 01/03/14 12:30 AM

Good one ya fucking goof. Get a fucking clue pal and.keep your mouth shut. You talk shit about every post someone makes on this board. Your a fucking wannabe or a fed my friend, which is it? You love to dish it out, but can't takr it when someone goes back at ya. Go write your fucking books and stop lurking for dirt on people associated with this life. You claim all sorts of stuff, but know one gives a shit about what you say cause your a shmuck. You wouldn't know this type of life if it was stearing you in the face, or doing research behind your Law Enforcement desk. Always the tough guy huh JCB
Posted By: mike68

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 01/03/14 12:53 AM

This thread could be so much better if people steered clear of the personal attacks, and I'm not taking one one side over the other, it takes two. If someone is antagonizing, report it and one of the big dogs will take care of him.

People are interested in O.C. It's a fact. Some have first hand knowledge, a lot don't. Nobody's being judged here. Everyone can bring value.

OK, I'm done with my Rodney King rant. Waiting for someone to tell me to get my f'ing shine box in 3,2,1.....
Posted By: Joerusso

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 01/03/14 07:43 AM

Hey Ville and Michealeast like my high school days of the geto boys straight gangsterism
Posted By: Joerusso

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 01/03/14 07:44 AM

Feels good when you have some street guys you can relate too and know there shit yea good feeling
Posted By: JCB1977

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 01/04/14 06:37 PM

You got me, I'm a fed....indictment's coming pal. One of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. And little do you know how well I know the life. In fact, I'm certain that I have been around the life in my neck of the woods more than most. Anyhow, no disrespect to Michaeleast or anybody on this forum for what it's worth...but before you pass judgement, just know that people are never what they seem.
Posted By: Ville

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 01/04/14 10:47 PM

So what are you JCB? You tell me cause you seem suspect. . You throw digs at people when they post comments on here. How do you know if the things a person is talking about is true or not. You for one ask the same questions over and over and act like you hate these types of criminals, but then say youve been around this life. I have been around this life and still know it and i could give 2 shits if people on a blog believe me. Some people arent actors ir wannabes and really are serious. I repsect anyone whos respectful back, theres no reason to start a beef over the internet. Learn to just discuss shit that is talked about instead of getting into an argument.
Posted By: Michaeleast

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 01/05/14 04:13 AM

THanks ville but this dude is a clown I write about common shit and like to correct some of the lie that people already now and some of the guy they say are in the can are home or dead u will never here me speak of crime or anything like that I also I joy some of the other state stories and read a lot of this stuff ass far ass me I have nothing to hide and I Gerard no one do that pretty much covers me all u guys that understand thanks for being local stand up guys message me any time
Posted By: pmac

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 01/05/14 04:43 AM

When the Rossetti thing blew up in the FBI face again I wonder wat people got for time. The prochillo did they get sentenced it said there made guys. Some girl on the Rossetti chart was lunchlady selling dope lol. She got hit hard in state court for a girl 3.5 yrs in framinhAm. Fuck auto spell check on my phone
Posted By: pmac

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 01/05/14 04:45 AM

Rossetti floatin around the ma doc what a embarrassment to his crazy mob family. He shut up cause he could put murders on people think he got hit 12 yrs pC time.
Posted By: JCB1977

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 01/05/14 10:56 PM

Got no issue from me, not looking to argue...point heard.
Posted By: Ville

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 01/06/14 01:02 AM

Michealeast i know your a Cambridge fella. I wanted to ask you if you knew Mickey Mickle and Billy Dunahue? Two Cambridge players that worked for Paul. Billy got shot and killed way back during the crazy times right on mass Ave while he was sitting outside a bar in his car. He was being a bodyguard for his numbers boss and the bullets were meant for his boss, but they got Billy instead. Mickey died in the early 2000s due to health reasons. They were 2 Cambridge gangsters that were part of the rackets and 2 of my uncles best friends. My uncle and Paul ran a bar together back in the 70 s. Alot of people dont know too much about the Cambridge fellas, they ran under the radar.
Posted By: Joerusso

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 01/06/14 01:05 AM

rosetti is in norfolk medium ... know some gaurds that work there he is there and its confirmed by of couple other guys
Posted By: pmac

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 01/06/14 02:13 AM

Wow he must walk around with a ton of newspaper armor. The shit you rap around your body to stop the shank telephone book shit. He must be a target how does he get a pass to be in population plus all the peoples family up there he hurt or killed. Probably sits with the skinners. Norfolk always has or had the must dope my grand pops was there early 70tys for stolen checks or bonds some shit doing he 7 to 10. He was old to. But all these guys on the Rossetti chart have they all been sentenced some were just gambling he had a huge crew I read he was acting consig somewhere.
Posted By: Ville

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 01/06/14 02:35 AM

Another little fact. Everyone thinks Whitey was the most powerful brother, but if you understood the workings of the underworld everyone new the Corrupt Midget was the real power. It was known if you wanted a job at the T, you put 5gs in a brown paper bag and had it sent to Billy. He controlled so much on a legitimate front, but was as dirty as a motherfucker. Most hate the Bulgers around here, regular working people and criminals.
Posted By: JCB1977

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 01/30/14 04:41 PM

Interesting "partial" FBI files on Jerry Angiulo & Ray Sr.:

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=92608&relPageId=1

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=94898&relPageId=6

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=95004&relPageId=2
Posted By: JCB1977

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 01/30/14 05:38 PM

Here is some nice info on Patriarca and any connections he had to the Nevada Gaming Industry:

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=114854&relPageId=22
Posted By: JCB1977

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 01/30/14 06:38 PM

More information on the Patriarca Crime Family and Ray Sr. This report starts on 7/23/1964 with 12 informants. Scroll to page 9, and there is a hierarchy chart and on page 10, it gives some nice info on Angiulo.

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=94898&relPageId=3
Posted By: JCB1977

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 01/30/14 06:55 PM

Intel from confidential informants dated 12/17/63:

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=95306&relPageId=6
Posted By: southend

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 01/31/14 01:57 PM

Originally Posted By: Joerusso
rosetti is in norfolk medium ... know some gaurds that work there he is there and its confirmed by of couple other guys



VineLink says Rossetti is in the County/Federal Interstate unit @ Norfolk. only other person I know of in that unit of Norfolk is a dude Jeff Hardy but everyone in the mass system has heard his name. I didn't even know Norfolk had a fed unit til I found out Rossetti was there. Norfolk has always been the ideal stop for wiseguys from Massachusetts doing state bids. Anthony Clementi and his kid are both doing their life terms there for the 99 restraunt shooting in Charlestown, Ricky Costa and his son Louis both also doing life were there ,Billy Angelesco did most of his time there, Freddy Simone, Peter Limone, Joe Salvati. Had theyr own fucking dorm
Posted By: azguy

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 01/31/14 03:02 PM

Ray Sr. was the man. Sitting on the commission, settling beefs in NY and owning pieces of LV casino's.

I wonder what those meetings at Patsy's I NY were about with Luchesse and others, must have been commission meetings.

Plus, I didn't know the entire Bonnano family as outcasted at one time.

Great reading !!
Posted By: Ville

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 01/31/14 03:18 PM

Do you know Jeff Southend? Hes running the Boyos up in Norfolk
Posted By: JCB1977

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 01/31/14 03:37 PM

Ray Sr. was a powerful guy, but his involvement with Las Vegas casinos was minimal compared to KC, Cleveland, Scranton-Wilkes-Barre, Chicago and Milwaukee.
Posted By: Mick7

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 01/31/14 03:53 PM

His case with with gerry Sullivan and Steve Murphy right? Are the Sullivan brothers running the MAX? The Murphy kid turned Rat he was in Billerica not to long ago in the village
Posted By: Ville

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 01/31/14 04:03 PM

Yea thats the case. They killed Tommy Moran, well Murphy gave them the gun, but Hardy told him they were gonna use it to rob a drug dealer. Alot of people are still pissed about Tommy being killed cause they all pretty much grew up with eachother. Tommy Moran was the real deal, loyal and highly respected and got his life taken way too soon. Thats a sad sad story in Somerville.
Posted By: JCB1977

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 02/05/14 06:08 PM

Here is an FBI file on Louie Manocchio and Nick Bianco from 1971.

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=133792&relPageId=3
Posted By: JCB1977

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 02/05/14 06:08 PM

Here is a partial FBI file on a conversation between Nick Bianco and Ray Patriarca Sr.

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=141808&relPageId=2
Posted By: JCB1977

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 02/05/14 06:35 PM

Here are some good FBI files on Louie Manocchio:

1. http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=69744&relPageId=2

2. http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=69745&relPageId=2

3. http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=69747&relPageId=3 (detailed 17 page report)

4. http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=69751&relPageId=3 (detailed 38 page report)

5. http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=93826&relPageId=2

6. http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=93827&relPageId=3 (Baby Shacks in NY)

7. http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=93838&relPageId=3 (1970 trip to Italy)

8. http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=93839&relPageId=4

9. http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=133692&relPageId=4 (detailed 55 page report 4-28-1970)

10. http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=133752&relPageId=3 (detailed 47 page report)
Posted By: TommyGambino

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 02/05/14 10:42 PM

Originally Posted By: JCB1977
Here is a partial FBI file on a conversation between Nick Bianco and Ray Patriarca Sr.

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=141808&relPageId=2


Who is this Carlo they keep mentioning? Which New York family was Ray Sr saying was no good, the gambino's?
Posted By: JCB1977

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 02/05/14 11:05 PM

I think Ray was referring to Bonanno and his family being banned from the commission
Posted By: southend

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 02/06/14 04:14 PM

They were all dusted and nearly severed the kids head off. Tommy Moran's uncle is Dapper Dan Moran, same Dan Moran you'll find on Howie Carr's site he's doing life for the murder of another gangster I forget who but you can easily find out on here. He's an old crazy fuck literally crazy outta his tree, old man goes around sucker punching people I'm not even kidding. But yeah Jeff Hardy and his Boyos were serious enemies with Ricky Costa in Walpole, lots of stabbings between Jeff's gang and Ricky an his people. When you arrived at Walpole in the 90's and you were white you had 2 choices: be with Jeff Hardy or be with Ricky Costa, no in-between. Jeff turned out to have way too much influence over younger white guys and too violent even for Walpole or Shirley max
Posted By: JCB1977

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 02/06/14 05:18 PM

Any updated news on Baby Shacks? How's his health holding up in prison?
Posted By: Gingello101182

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 02/06/14 06:21 PM

Hey JCB I just got a letter from a friend of mine doing time at Butner. He says that Louie looks really good. Everyone thinks he will definitely make it through his bid. Hopefully he moves to Florida and lives out his life in peace. No need to go back to Providence. Nothing left there worth trying to save.
Posted By: JCB1977

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 02/06/14 06:52 PM

I'm sure he does look good, he always kept in shape and looked a lot younger than he is. However, from experience with the senior population (I'm a licensed nursing home administrator), after the age of 80, the chances of an acute illness sky rocket, no matter how good of shape physically that somebody is in. I hope Shacks makes it out, but he'd be pushing 90 when and if he makes it out of lockup.
Posted By: Ville

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 02/06/14 07:06 PM

Yes they did, stabbed him more than 60 times and shot Tommy through the cheek at Columbus Park in Medford., Tommy kept getting back up and going at them until he finally dropped. All cause Jeff and Gerry got sold fake dust and Tommy kept riding them about getting beat. They then dropped Tommy off, but as he got out of thr car, Tommy was still riding them so Jeff told him to get back in the car and they drove to Medford and killed him, told Tommy they were meeting the dealer that beat them. Jeffs a maniac, bit a black kids ear off during the race riots in Somerville in the early 90s. He did alot when ND was fighting the blacks that just moved into Somerville. I could tell ya more stories about them. There's still stabbings going on between the.Boyos and the other groups. Dorchester and.Southie dont get along with Jeff and the Boyos, so alot of shit has happened between those groups.
Posted By: TheGoodRat

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 02/06/14 09:17 PM

"Ville", I find your prior comment about the "Corrupt Midget" and jobs at the MBTA very interesting...is it know fact in Southie that a cash payment got you a job or is it purely rumor that the CM was on the take? If true how did he get away with it for all these years? Thanks for the response.
Posted By: Ville

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 02/06/14 11:29 PM

It's fact if you were invloved with the right people. He got away with it cause his political ties ran so deep, no one could touch him.
Posted By: Michaeleast

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 02/11/14 05:16 PM

Hey buddy I'm from east Cambridge I old guy that has the laundromat is not connected to any one but the cpd he's and old pervert that goes to the Dr to fuck little girls he's a old rat that sold all his property to a Cambridge cop and now he sits out front and looks a little boys that a fact
Posted By: TommyGambino

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 02/11/14 06:01 PM

Originally Posted By: Michaeleast
Hey buddy I'm from east Cambridge I old guy that has the laundromat is not connected to any one but the cpd he's and old pervert that goes to the Dr to fuck little girls he's a old rat that sold all his property to a Cambridge cop and now he sits out front and looks a little boys that a fact


So he fucks children yet nobody has notified the coppers about this? Cool story bro.
Posted By: Soldier

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 09/24/14 09:53 AM

Ville I think you need go get your facts straight on the Jeff/Jerry-Moran thing first tommy wasn't the real deal he was a loud mouth . Ask anyone who knew them !! Your quoting what you read in the papers , as far as that ND stuff we were all kids getting crazy . There was never an ear bit off , it was an eye lid check your facts and I'm 100% sure it wasn't Jeff that did that . It sounds to me you might have been friends with tommy . Maybe you were one of the cowards that picked a fight with his sister during the trial ? Next time you want to talk check with Southend first he seems to know what he's talking about .
Posted By: Ville

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 09/24/14 11:19 AM

Thats exactly what i was doing quoting the paper about what happened. Two sides to the story obviously thats how it always is. Sorry not an ear, the eyelid and all the crazy shit that happened with the blacks and ND was all of them back then. There's plenty we could talk about on that subject. No i wasnt in the courtroom, just think it was all pointless and never had to happen. Its always been the 2 sides after it came out who did it, but that shits all in the past and we both have our opinions on the matter. I dont need to check with southend bud. This is a Somerville thing and your defending Jeff and Gerrys side and im defending Tommys side. They gutted the fucking kid, you ever seen the crime scene photos where Tommy is laying in his shirt and boxers with his neck cut into like a log. Come on now how you gonna defend that, friends killing a friend. Tommy had a strong street rep, connections that last today, ball buster is more like it than loud mouth pal.
Posted By: Ville

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 09/24/14 11:01 PM

And just to add you talk about what happened in the courtroom and them being cowards for fucking with his sister, but the biggest cowards there got sentenced to life for killing a friend they knew since little league. You fucking shitting me with that. Tommys tournament is still going strong after all these years and they still have plenty of support. Obviously your related to Jeff or Gerry or did time with them to defend that despicable act.
Posted By: cookcounty

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 09/25/14 03:57 PM

didn't boston have a bunch of ranking guys flip recently
Posted By: Soldier

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 10/04/14 11:49 AM

Yes Vill I have been to Tommy's tournament . Because of the life we live and choices we make . Sometimes life is lost . I liked tommy when he was with us Irish . He backed the wrong horse , he was a loud mouth who screwed up ! The fact is Jeff and jerry were getting to big and in the way of people making a lot of cash . Bottom line this wasn't over an argument about getting ripped off . And yes and one who spits at a girl or woman in a court room is a coward . Those same cowards ran when confronted by family and friends . And everyone of them who ended up going up state . Checked in fast ! At the next tournament look around not everyone's there as friends . Some of us are for $
Posted By: Ville

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 10/04/14 03:33 PM

No argument from me brother. Yea i know not everyone is friends at the tourney, which sucks cause everybody got along back in the day when it was all fun before the crazy shit started.Tommy was running wild back then tho, as were Jeff and Gerry. Just think if that never happened and everyone stuck together, things would be so different with the way shit is around here now and days.
Posted By: Knicks

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 10/29/14 01:32 AM

@soldier, Jeff and Gerry were getting too big? They didn't have two nickels to rub together. This was all about them getting ripped off for their last couple hundred bucks and Tommy bustin their balls. Up state Jeff and Gerry wanted to make it out to be something more and obviously brain washed u. I personally seen tommy beat up Gerry on a few different occasions they were all young kids at the time. As far as the sister I heard she was molested by her older brother John. It's pretty much public knowledge. Typical project trash
Posted By: Ville

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 10/30/14 06:42 AM

Originally Posted By: Knicks
@soldier, Jeff and Gerry were getting too big? They didn't have two nickels to rub together. This was all about them getting ripped off for their last couple hundred bucks and Tommy bustin their balls. Up state Jeff and Gerry wanted to make it out to be something more and obviously brain washed u. I personally seen tommy beat up Gerry on a few different occasions they were all young kids at the time. As far as the sister I heard she was molested by her older brother John. It's pretty much public knowledge. Typical project trash
This guy soldier dont know what he's talking about with alot of the shit he said. Everyone in Somerville knows they killed Tommy because they got beat and he was busting their balls about it. Eye witness testimony goes a long way and there was plenty of that with this case. The only place he could of heard that about Jeff and Gerry getting too big and in the way of making money was up state with them or from family and what little friends they still have. But like you said Jeff or Gerry must have brainwashed him if he was locked up with them. I didn't even wanna go back and forth with soldier cause i know whats true and just didn't feel like listening to his bullshit. Scumbags defines those 2 pieces of shit.
Posted By: Soldier

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 11/09/14 01:10 PM

Your right no need to keep going back and forth with this . Bottom line tommy and his friends including you as I can see from your post . Wanted to try and be tough guys . But when it came down to getting serious all you do is call the cops . So sit here and talk like tough guys . Jeff and jerry were and still are pretty serious guys . If they weren't then when they were still on the streets for a month after no one said or did shit ? Brainwash ? Project trash ? The only one I ever herd of being a skinner is Tommy , Jerald ,Jeff quinlen , and 5 of there other friends for what they did to Kim Chandler . I have gotten to know Jeff's family very well and his brother was a crazy fuck but got out . Knicks even further proof you don't know shit ! With an accusation like that if you had the balls to confront him on your statement I'm sure you would have to have the cops on speed dial .
Posted By: mike68

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 11/10/14 01:21 PM

This thread has gone downhill.
Posted By: cheech

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston - 11/10/14 08:59 PM

They all do. Sad
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