New bonnano boss

http://www.fivefamiliesnyc.com/2013/06/bonanno-crime-family-selects-jailed.html?m=1

Interesting. Capeci said that it was likely he would take over when he got out but now hes the real boss and Defiore is underboss/street boss. Could be good for Defiore could be bad for Mancuso because as we have seen before; feds are not scared to indict when the guys already locked up.

When does Mancuso get out, the Bonnano's need a good run of 2 years or so without any major indictments to rebuild. They're still a big family with a lot of key guys.

Is Graziano still Consigliere?

Neg. Shelved.

Because his daughter is on that show? It's not his fault. He's a stand up guy.

It's an embarrsement to the Bonannos nonetheless.

Mancuso probably wanted to lock up the posistion before someone else tried taking it before his release.

anyone know any of the guys in his crew or did he just take all of whats left of basciano guys and pat defilipo. I thought back in the Donnie brasco era mikey nose was part of sonny blacks guys. around 2000 angelo prisco gave him complements to a wired up guy, high regards. see in the article said they made 10 new guys in the last 18 month. that means gambinos and luchese must have made a bunch. Colombo are making guys in prison nowadays. you must wonder how many guys snake made in jail. andy russo made some guy sessa. gangland said pat s. kid is acting capo from the Bronx. you knock them down they get back up. massino brought them back that even after all capo's flipped they only hurt there crews.

Embarrassment maybe, but he doesn't even talk to her anymore because of it. It's pathetic really, apparently they're out there making anyone who wants to be involved in the life right now yet they shelve one of there top guys for something so petty.

Did they actually strip him of his rank, i know hes not consigliere any mor but is he still a captain? Did they officially give his crew to some1 else? bc if not i think we have to wait until he gets out of prison to really see what position he is in.

If graziano can't control his own family how can u expect for his own guys to respect him, and his daughter is selfish, she could have easily gotten him clipped with that show

Nobody really knows.

the article says 5 years until he gets out which is a long time for the feds to build a case against him, so if hes not careful he could be looking at a lot more years b4 he even hits the streets.

It's actually 6 he's not released until March 2019 - http://www.bop.gov/iloc2/InmateFinderSer...-529&y=-517

But I'm sure it's a big money maker for the Bonanno's .

Look at tony walker with that fucking hair hahaha!!

From my understanding there are 2 crews in da BX... There is frascone, who got Patty Ds crew. And the basciano/mancuso crew that has Spirito as captain. Idk for sure but id say one of the big reasons they have so much respect in the family is bc they account for like 75% of the bonanno hits in the last decade or so. Plus this new thing with that stagno guy. IMO, if it was a hit, it came from the bx too. I still have this huge hunch hes with mancusos crew.

TG got bumped down from captain. He was only acting 3 for a short time, never was for TV. You cant control ur daughter, how are u gonna run a crew? Bonanno family didnt get shit from that show. If Graziano did id be surprised. Im sure hes borrowed money from all his daughters. From what little i know about him, he is known more for spending than earning money. Hes like nicky corozzo w/out the brains. Claims everybody. He was proud his son in law was a major weed guy and him and Rabito turned him into one of NYs biggest locals. Then he was proud his other son in law was a puerto rican tough guy... Idk for sure who runs his crew now. Just based on what ive recently read id say Peter Lovaglio. But he could just as easily been with another crew, bc that club is like the bonanno hang out on si. Could be porky or boxcars or whoever.

Thanks Skinny, great insight as usual. DO you give any credit to the post in either this or another recent thread, that it's the Genovese and Luchesse Bronx factions that are keeping Mancuso in place by supporting him?

Not really, imo. maybe the westside. cant see crea caring who runs that family. Its not like the old days where you needed a majority on the commission to be the top family in nyc. the westside is gonna do what they want. Whos gonna complain? Frank cali lol? I remember reading a transcript of basciano and massino in prison, bascianno is complaining how mancuso just started calling himself the family boss on his own. if his own guy basciano cant control him, i cant see him following the westside guys up there. That, imo, is all this anyways. Mancuso doesnt want to let it go. And nobody wants to/has the balls to complain. just my opinion...

That was the first thing that came to mind when i read the comment. These are the transcripts Skinny is talking about i think, for anyone who hasn't read them, from Dapper Dons site.

http://www.fivefamiliesnyc.com/2010/10/massino-tapes.html

http://www.fivefamiliesnyc.com/2010/10/during-january-7-2005-jailhouse.html

http://www.fivefamiliesnyc.com/2010/10/massino-tapes-part-3.html

I can't believe the got shot and killed his wife. What's the back story on that? Only ten years? So much for respecting your woman.

Frascone as in Henry Frascone? What do you know about him?

Skinny, what club are oyu referring to on SI?

So did Rastelli.

I believe he is referring to Bonanno captain Anthony "The Hat" Frascone.

Wasn't it manslaughter? At least that was what he plead to.