Chicago Outfit Top Echelon Meeting 1972

Top leaders of the Chicago Outfit meet following the death of Paul Ricca to announce organizational structure.

I found an old FBI file I saved that indicates a Criminal - Top Echelon (CTE) informant has been providing information about Outfit business. Listed below is the link. Take a look and share your opinion about the identity of the RAT.

Just like Skinny said, no right or wrong answers.

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=70996&relPageId=3

Thanks for this Maryferrell is a great website but i usually don't have the time to comb through it.

Great stuff.

Thanks for posting.

I believe the informant is Ralph Pierce.

The cooler - I've seen Pierce's name in several articles but I know nothing about him. But I will by tomorrow.

Thanks for the feedback.

Richard Cain would be the other choice.

Faithful1 - Good call ! Considering Cain played "both sides," he surely would be a top suspect. Been reading about Ralph Pierce and he, too, looks suspicious.

Thanks

I tend to think the informant is Pierce.

On page "D" of the report, the informant refers to a 1956 meeting when Giancana was made boss of the Outfit. The informant doesn't reveal that he was at the meeting but he supplies such precise details-the location of the meeting, the agenda, the attendees, etc, that it seems to me that he was probably one of the guys at the meeting. (Someone could have learned the information secondhand but it would be hard to keep the details straight fifteen years later).

As for suspects, if we eliminate the dead mobsters and assume the informant isn't Accardo, Giancana or Alex, it leaves Kruse, Vogel or Pierce.

Furthermore, the same informant knows confidential details about Alex's current schedule that only one of his top subordinates-Kruse, Vogel or Pierce, was likely to know.

Combined with clues found in other FBI documents, I tend to go with Pierce as the source.

I wrote more about Pierce here.

http://informer-journal.blogspot.ca/2011/07/roemers-men-in-outfit.html

I've never seen this site, but it looks GREAT ! And you could be absolutely correct about Pierce.

All members should take a look at thecooler's site.

Thanks so much for sharing.

Definitely not my site! Credit goes to Tom Hunt. Like many here already know, he edits the Informer.

Oops! My mistake. Sorry.

I tend to go with Ed the Cooler on this one. When it comes to discovering confidential informants he's the best.

Chicago had area bosses way back in 1972.......big shock

Very cool nice post.

I love these old documents...

That document got me to researching Sidney Korshak a bit more, and I found an interesting Vanity Fair piece on him. It's here.

There's a book on Cain called The Tangled Web. I think it was written by his brother. I own it but only flipped through it.

The informant is most likely Ralph Pierce as Richard Cain was on thin ice at the start of the 70's with the Outfit, and most likely would not have been invited to attend that meeting, so he would not have been able to give out precise details, only second hand information. Pierce was in good standing with the Outfits top echelon.