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Street Gangs Growing, Evolving in Las Vegas

Posted By: Scorsese

Street Gangs Growing, Evolving in Las Vegas - 05/14/13 08:47 PM

I-Team: Street Gangs Growing, Evolving in Las Vegas
Posted: May 10, 2013 3:22 AM BST
Updated: May 10, 2013 10:53 PM BST
By George Knapp, Chief Investigative Reporter - bio | email
By Matt Adams, Chief Photojournalist - email

LAS VEGAS -- An estimated 20,000 street gang members and their associates prowl neighborhoods all over southern Nevada, the highest number for the valley yet. Metro Police said the number of known gangsters in Las Vegas has increased 10 percent in each of the past two years, and there are now almost 600 individual gangs.

But numbers aren't the only challenge for police. The gangs have grown more sophisticated.

Bloody turf wars are largely a thing of the past now that new hybrid gangs have emerged. In order to adapt, Metro created the GAP team, and allowed the I-Team to ride along with the tough-as-nails officers.

"Wait right there. Right there," an officer commands a suspect.

Working the gang-infested corridor near Tropicana Avenue and Boulder Highway, Sgt. Will Huddler is cautious every time he and his team pull someone over.

His instincts were right. The driver had an outstanding warrant, but the GAP team had more pressing priorities on this night, such as stopping to chat with someone who matched the description of a gangster who's pulled three armed stickups in the area.

Huddler makes a point of engaging the residents of the weekly rental places known as havens for gang bangers, to let regular citizens know that the police are around.

"Our entire shift we're being proactive, creeping through neighborhoods," Huddler said. "We turn in on an unmarked car, the element of surprise and caught in the act ... The likelihood of us contacting someone who has a reason to run is higher."

Because of who they target, the gang unit is more likely than most cops to get into some rough stuff.

"Our background is training in defensive tactics," Huddler said. "We have a likelihood of high-risk contacts, foot pursuits, fights, things like that."

A duo with telltale tattoos and a blue bandana in the back pocket caught an earful from one GAP officer.

"I asked you once to fix your feet and you immediately went back and did it again," the officer said.

What the wiseguy had done was a gesture with his feet called teeing off, the equivalent of flipping the bird at the police.

"They tee their feet toward the officer," he said. "It's like looking at you and spitting, disrespecting law enforcement. And he did it again."

It ends amicably. Even with known gang members, it makes sense for police to keep the channels open. One never knows where valuable tips might originate.

As the I-Team cruises along with Huddler, a mystery tipster -- possibly a rival gang member --calls to report a 300-pound Pacific Islander felon in a wheelchair, and a longtime gangster from California, is carrying a gun in the area. Huddler advises to not be misled by the wheelchair.

"He has a serious criminal history, did time for attempted murder and is in the chair because someone shot him," Huddler said.

Within minutes, they've got him. Officers get permission to search his chair for weapons. It takes several men to lift him onto another perch. Instead of a gun, they found a bullet, which is illegal for him in light of his prison record. A subsequent search of his rental unit uncovers two firearms.

"It's a rather frequent occurrence," Lt. Chris Petko said. "We confiscate guns. We are taking them out of the hands of the criminal element."

Petko's team is one part of Metro's anti-gang efforts.

Intelligence detectives get involved in enforcement as well, such as chasing a suspect through a gang stronghold near Sunrise Mountain. But their primary job is to investigate the big picture stuff, such as identifying the shot-callers in local gangs. Inside the jail, another team identifies and studies gang members, their affiliations and tattoos. About half of the inmates in Las Vegas area jails are affiliated with a gang.

But the days of Crips versus Bloods vendettas and street-corner turf wars are mostly over. Huddler said the new hybrid gangs might be Crips and Bloods and include members who are black, white and Hispanic, making it less obvious to police and less hostile to each other. Illicit profits are their goal, and social media are their most valuable tools. Metro police have had to likewise adapt.

"They have now come to the conclusion that it is better to pursue their business interests rather than shooting at each other and everybody makes money," Petko said. "We are under funding constraints and are having to evolve at a very rapid pace in order to counter the criminal element."

One trend that's been documented by GAP officers is a new type of initiation rite for some gangs: they require new members to prove their loyalty by kicking in the door of a house as part of a home invasion robbery.

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http://www.8newsnow.com/story/22212685/street-gangs-growing-evolving-in-las-vegas
Posted By: elmwoodparker

Re: Street Gangs Growing, Evolving in Las Vegas - 05/20/13 08:57 AM

In Chicago 70% of all murders are Blacks killing Blacks. it must be some primitive tribal thing. I'm just sayin'''
Posted By: Lilo

Re: Street Gangs Growing, Evolving in Las Vegas - 05/20/13 11:14 AM

What a uniquely ridiculous statement. I'm just saying.
http://abagond.wordpress.com/2012/04/10/reading-while-white-crime-statistics/
Posted By: elmwoodparker

Re: Street Gangs Growing, Evolving in Las Vegas - 05/20/13 11:26 AM

I know. I guess the Chicago Police statistics are uniquely ridiculous. I agree with you.
Posted By: Scorsese

Re: Street Gangs Growing, Evolving in Las Vegas - 05/20/13 03:31 PM

Originally Posted By: elmwoodparker
In Chicago 70% of all murders are Blacks killing Blacks. it must be some primitive tribal thing. I'm just sayin'''


This story is about vegas.
Posted By: cookcounty

Re: Street Gangs Growing, Evolving in Las Vegas - 05/28/13 08:53 PM

Originally Posted By: elmwoodparker
In Chicago 70% of all murders are Blacks killing Blacks. it must be some primitive tribal thing. I'm just sayin'''



that ole 1747 rhetoric you're speaking is primitive
Posted By: Scorsese

Re: Street Gangs Growing, Evolving in Las Vegas - 05/30/13 05:09 PM

Originally Posted By: cookcounty
Originally Posted By: elmwoodparker
In Chicago 70% of all murders are Blacks killing Blacks. it must be some primitive tribal thing. I'm just sayin'''



that ole 1747 rhetoric you're speaking is primitive


cook, Theres no point in responding to that, it seems that theres a number of people on here lately that needlessly inject their racial greivances into the organised crime section of this forum.
Posted By: BlackFamily

Re: Street Gangs Growing, Evolving in Las Vegas - 05/30/13 07:50 PM

The gangs in certain southern cities are more clique oriented and been that way for many years. A clique could have members of the VLs , GDs , or Crips and Bloods mix in with neutrals (us). Of course the main reason is money.
Posted By: Crazy_Casso

Re: Street Gangs Growing, Evolving in Las Vegas - 05/30/13 08:02 PM

The mob kept gangs off the streets. Las Vegas was safer, thats a fact.

Atleast with the mafia running things, you didn't have to worry about getting shot, or somebody shooting your kid walking home from school. These street gangs are fucking pathetic.
Posted By: Scorsese

Re: Street Gangs Growing, Evolving in Las Vegas - 05/30/13 08:16 PM

Originally Posted By: Crazy_Casso
The mob kept gangs off the streets. Las Vegas was safer, thats a fact.

Atleast with the mafia running things, you didn't have to worry about getting shot, or somebody shooting your kid walking home from school. These street gangs are fucking pathetic.


Really? is this a fact? can you give me an actual documented example of how they kept gangs off the street in vegas?
Posted By: ThePolakVet

Re: Street Gangs Growing, Evolving in Las Vegas - 05/30/13 09:07 PM

I think some certain areas still are higher organized crime controlled. Such as the Italian Mafia, Russian organized crime and other criminal organizations. And gangs don't step inside there, because they know they'd be destroyed if they would do that.

Such as nowdays Brighton Beach, I think there was some shooting by blacks a year or two ago, but that's the only thing. But everyone else knows it's a Russian mafia infested place and any beef made by gangs there would cause them all to be eliminated.
Posted By: ManGauge

Re: Street Gangs Growing, Evolving in Las Vegas - 05/30/13 10:41 PM

Originally Posted By: Scorsese
Originally Posted By: cookcounty
Originally Posted By: elmwoodparker
In Chicago 70% of all murders are Blacks killing Blacks. it must be some primitive tribal thing. I'm just sayin'''



that ole 1747 rhetoric you're speaking is primitive


cook, Theres no point in responding to that, it seems that theres a number of people on here lately that needlessly inject their racial greivances into the organised crime section of this forum.


Organized crime (lcn in particular) and racism pretty much go hand in hand
Posted By: Crazy_Casso

Re: Street Gangs Growing, Evolving in Las Vegas - 05/31/13 12:39 AM

Originally Posted By: Scorsese
Originally Posted By: Crazy_Casso
The mob kept gangs off the streets. Las Vegas was safer, thats a fact.

Atleast with the mafia running things, you didn't have to worry about getting shot, or somebody shooting your kid walking home from school. These street gangs are fucking pathetic.


Really? is this a fact? can you give me an actual documented example of how they kept gangs off the street in vegas?




For fucks sake, we're talking in a thread titled "Street gangs growing, evolving in las vegas." Ask anybody who visited las vegas, or even lived there during the mafia reign. It was safer. Now I'm not going to pull some stupid numbers out of my ass, you could research yourself if you want.

Vegas never had a huge crime problem, except for the hole in the wall gang, but we're talking about gangs like the MS-13.

I thought it was common sense that since the mafia has been declining, more ruthless street gangs have emerged in their place. Which is not a good thing.

They kept petty criminals and gangs off the street the same way the outfit did. They made it clear that no petty criminals or gangs would be tolerated in the cash cow city of vegas, it would scare tourists away, and that would mean loss of money.

Posted By: Crazy_Casso

Re: Street Gangs Growing, Evolving in Las Vegas - 05/31/13 12:47 AM

The mafia wasn't going to let some punk ass street gangs ruin their jewel of las vegas. No sir.
Posted By: Skinny

Re: Street Gangs Growing, Evolving in Las Vegas - 05/31/13 01:01 AM

Originally Posted By: ThePolakVet
I think some certain areas still are higher organized crime controlled. Such as the Italian Mafia, Russian organized crime and other criminal organizations. And gangs don't step inside there, because they know they'd be destroyed if they would do that.

Such as nowdays Brighton Beach, I think there was some shooting by blacks a year or two ago, but that's the only thing. But everyone else knows it's a Russian mafia infested place and any beef made by gangs there would cause them all to be eliminated.


I think its safe to say youve never been to brighton beach no?
Posted By: BlackFamily

Re: Street Gangs Growing, Evolving in Las Vegas - 05/31/13 03:51 AM

Your quite off. Timeline. La Cosa Nostra members started investing in the Las Vegas casinos back in the 50s, some of those la gangs didn't exist then. The gangs migrated into las vegas in the late 80s to early 90s, by then LCN casino activities was removed by the Feds decades earlier. Can you provide a source that shows the difference in crime rate of las vegas backed then and present? By the way, the outfit had only a few encounters with local gangs and they didn't have that much influence on the street gangs at all.
Posted By: BlackFamily

Re: Street Gangs Growing, Evolving in Las Vegas - 05/31/13 04:15 AM

Nope. The gangs probably have little interest except a minor few in those organized crime areas and I doubt any crime group will take the time to "destroy" a gang.
Posted By: ThePolakVet

Re: Street Gangs Growing, Evolving in Las Vegas - 05/31/13 05:51 AM

Originally Posted By: Skinny
Originally Posted By: ThePolakVet
I think some certain areas still are higher organized crime controlled. Such as the Italian Mafia, Russian organized crime and other criminal organizations. And gangs don't step inside there, because they know they'd be destroyed if they would do that.

Such as nowdays Brighton Beach, I think there was some shooting by blacks a year or two ago, but that's the only thing. But everyone else knows it's a Russian mafia infested place and any beef made by gangs there would cause them all to be eliminated.


I think its safe to say youve never been to brighton beach no?

I've never been yeah. But I didn't pull this info out of my ass. I know a lot of Russians/Latvians who live in United States.
Posted By: elmwoodparker

Re: Street Gangs Growing, Evolving in Las Vegas - 05/31/13 12:03 PM

Hey Scorsese, I only quoted the Official Chicago Murder statistics. I know you're story is about Las Vegas. THE POINT is that most murders in most large cities are BLACK GANG MEMBERS killing other BLACK GANG MEMBERS over their stupid fucking territory where some asshole stands on a corner selling crack. If you don't like the crime statistics and the reality of it, then I suggest you call the Police Department in some of these large cities in America (Las Vegas being one of them) and have the Police change their murder statistics so God forbid we don't offend anyone with the truth.
Posted By: Scorsese

Re: Street Gangs Growing, Evolving in Las Vegas - 05/31/13 08:53 PM

Originally Posted By: elmwoodparker
Hey Scorsese, I only quoted the Official Chicago Murder statistics. I know you're story is about Las Vegas. THE POINT is that most murders in most large cities are BLACK GANG MEMBERS killing other BLACK GANG MEMBERS over their stupid fucking territory where some asshole stands on a corner selling crack. If you don't like the crime statistics and the reality of it, then I suggest you call the Police Department in some of these large cities in America (Las Vegas being one of them) and have the Police change their murder statistics so God forbid we don't offend anyone with the truth.


I dont think you offended anyone, and i dont dispute your homicide statistics. But you look at chicago, philadelphia, detroit, who actually runs the drug trade throughout those cities, its always either black or hispanic groups, of course when your dealing drugs its a violent trade and people get killed its just what happens(not saying thats a good thing). If you look at the recent case of the aryan brotherhood of texas and even white motorcyle gangs the majority of their killings are other white guys either fellow gangmembers or rivals, and they kill eachother over stupid shit too. Hell, look at the mafia most of their victims when tallied up are gonna be other italian american males.

Also your the one who replied first to the article i posted, and i aint got a problem with people responding however they want but at least try to keep it relevant to the article posted. The only mention of race in this article was when it said:
Quote:
[/quote]But the days of Crips versus Bloods vendettas and street-corner turf wars are mostly over. Huddler said the new hybrid gangs might be Crips and Bloods and include members who are black, white and Hispanic, making it less obvious to police and less hostile to each other. Illicit profits are their goal, and social media are their most valuable tools. Metro police have had to likewise adapt.[quote]


also the video with the article even features the officers dealing with what appears to be a white crip. So you going off on a tangent about black gang members killing eachother in chicago straight away really makes no sense considering what the article was about and whats actually said in it.
Posted By: Scorsese

Re: Street Gangs Growing, Evolving in Las Vegas - 05/31/13 09:20 PM

Originally Posted By: BlackFamily
Your quite off. Timeline. La Cosa Nostra members started investing in the Las Vegas casinos back in the 50s, some of those la gangs didn't exist then. The gangs migrated into las vegas in the late 80s to early 90s, by then LCN casino activities was removed by the Feds decades earlier. Can you provide a source that shows the difference in crime rate of las vegas backed then and present? By the way, the outfit had only a few encounters with local gangs and they didn't have that much influence on the street gangs at all.


The bloods and crips street gangs started arriving as early as the late 70s and onwards and their still was somewhat of a mob prescence during that time.
Posted By: cookcounty

Re: Street Gangs Growing, Evolving in Las Vegas - 05/31/13 11:28 PM

Originally Posted By: Crazy_Casso
The mafia wasn't going to let some punk ass street gangs ruin their jewel of las vegas. No sir.



how many black or Hispanics were living in vegas 1950-80s?

street gangs didn't come to vegas until the 90s
Posted By: elmwoodparker

Re: Street Gangs Growing, Evolving in Las Vegas - 06/02/13 01:11 PM

Scorsese, Since you mentioned the Crips and Bloods in your posting above, let me tell you how I really feel about them with no holds barred. I hate the Crips and Bloods and I ENJOY seeing them kill each other. In fact, a Crip is more likely to be killed by another so called Crip than by a Blood. It gives me great joy every time I hear of them killing each other which happens quite often. I think they should continue the good work.
Posted By: Scorsese

Re: Street Gangs Growing, Evolving in Las Vegas - 06/02/13 11:04 PM

Originally Posted By: elmwoodparker
Scorsese, Since you mentioned the Crips and Bloods in your posting above, let me tell you how I really feel about them with no holds barred. I hate the Crips and Bloods and I ENJOY seeing them kill each other. In fact, a Crip is more likely to be killed by another so called Crip than by a Blood. It gives me great joy every time I hear of them killing each other which happens quite often. I think they should continue the good work.

uhwhat
ok....good for you.
Posted By: cookcounty

Re: Street Gangs Growing, Evolving in Las Vegas - 06/03/13 03:13 PM

Originally Posted By: elmwoodparker
Scorsese, Since you mentioned the Crips and Bloods in your posting above, let me tell you how I really feel about them with no holds barred. I hate the Crips and Bloods and I ENJOY seeing them kill each other. In fact, a Crip is more likely to be killed by another so called Crip than by a Blood. It gives me great joy every time I hear of them killing each other which happens quite often. I think they should continue the good work.



how do you hate people that you don't even see

there ain't any crips or bloods anywhere near Elmwood park
Posted By: NickyEyes1

Re: Street Gangs Growing, Evolving in Las Vegas - 06/03/13 03:35 PM



there ain't any crips or bloods anywhere near Elmwood park

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Austin
Posted By: paprincess

Re: Street Gangs Growing, Evolving in Las Vegas - 06/03/13 03:41 PM

loll!!!
Posted By: paprincess

Re: Street Gangs Growing, Evolving in Las Vegas - 06/03/13 03:41 PM

loll!!
Posted By: paprincess

Re: Street Gangs Growing, Evolving in Las Vegas - 06/03/13 03:48 PM

all I was hoping for was a cheap safe trip to vegas to sit by the pool and relax, except from this video it looks like people will be trying to nab my purse and sell my shit online left and right... guess I need a new dry heat "hot spot" no wonder The Orleans is offering free rooms AND food and drink comps...
Posted By: BlackFamily

Re: Street Gangs Growing, Evolving in Las Vegas - 06/05/13 02:52 AM

There isn't any crips/bloods in Austin but there belizean bloods in Evanston.
Posted By: IvyLeague

Re: Street Gangs Growing, Evolving in Las Vegas - 06/05/13 04:34 AM

Originally Posted By: Lilo
What a uniquely ridiculous statement. I'm just saying.
http://abagond.wordpress.com/2012/04/10/reading-while-white-crime-statistics/




Not to get this thread off track but even you can't believe the stuff in that link above. One can argue about the reasons for certain minority groups committing more crime, relatively speaking, but nobody can deny it's reality.
Posted By: cookcounty

Re: Street Gangs Growing, Evolving in Las Vegas - 06/05/13 06:01 PM

@black family

you can wake up tomorrow morning and decide that you're blood

most bloods outside of the west coast are very fraudulent

how bloods from belize ended up in Evanston is a mystery



@ivyleague


that article was written for someone like you and you still took the bait. social economics is damn near the leading factor in crime in America, i'll give you an example if you don't believe me

I went to a highschool out of district, the dividing line between my suburb and the suburb where I went to school was only a two lane street. my suburb is actually a decent place to live but our school systems are nonexistent, pathetic and borderline criminal. my highschool was majority white but even the black students came from affluent families (believe it or not but a good portion of the black kids had more money than the white kids). ten years later when I talk to someone that I graduated highschool with and ask them "who got killed or locked up" people look at me like i'm speaking Swahili.

the median income in 2000 for my town was 70k, the median income for the town where the majority of the students in my high school came from was 77k. why is it that I can name off atleast 10 people from my town that got murdered before turning the age of 25? the answer is the school systems in my town (social economics). I live in a decent town but the school systems are some of the poorest in the state (I've researched it)

in other words families that live across the street get a better education than families on the other side of the street even though they basically make around the same amount of money

that's social economics
Posted By: TheKillingJoke

Re: Street Gangs Growing, Evolving in Las Vegas - 06/05/13 06:20 PM

Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
Originally Posted By: Lilo
What a uniquely ridiculous statement. I'm just saying.
http://abagond.wordpress.com/2012/04/10/reading-while-white-crime-statistics/




Not to get this thread off track but even you can't believe the stuff in that link above. One can argue about the reasons for certain minority groups committing more crime, relatively speaking, but nobody can deny it's reality.



I second this. A 'minority group' doesn't necessarily mean an 'ethnic' minority. A 'social' minority applies as well. Take a look at Great Britain and Ireland. A lot of crime is committed by members of the indigenous working class, who are just as segregated in those countries as ethnic minorities are in other countries. Also in the Netherlands a lot of/most indigenous criminals come from the local trailer parks.
That's just the way it is.
Posted By: TheKillingJoke

Re: Street Gangs Growing, Evolving in Las Vegas - 06/05/13 06:23 PM

Originally Posted By: cookcounty
@black family

you can wake up tomorrow morning and decide that you're blood

most bloods outside of the west coast are very fraudulent

how bloods from belize ended up in Evanston is a mystery




A lot of Crips and Bloods in Los Angeles are actually of Belizean descent, even though they may identify more as African Americans nowadays.
But that still doesn't explain how they got to Evanston. Didn't know that town was home to a substantial Belizean community.
Posted By: Scorsese

Re: Street Gangs Growing, Evolving in Las Vegas - 06/05/13 06:30 PM

Originally Posted By: cookcounty
@black family

you can wake up tomorrow morning and decide that you're blood

most bloods outside of the west coast are very fraudulent

how bloods from belize ended up in Evanston is a mystery


Most are fraudulent but in a lot of these large cities you can always find authentic blood and crip sets. Quite alot these were started in the early 90s when gangmembers from LA started moving to other states to sell cocaine.

The belizeans began adopting the blood and crip gang culture when gangmembers of belizean descent were deported back to belize, also the country was also being used as a shipping point by columbian cartels for smuggling cocaine into the USA. I think the first crip gang in new york was started by some belizean immigrants in harlem. The belizean bloods gang in chicago was involved with distributing cocaine from belize and passport fraud, they got caught after the fbi set them up in a sting operation.

http://www.fbi.gov/chicago/press-release...t-fraud-charges

Quote:
[/quote]According to the charges against Johnson and three others, Johnson’s sources of supply included quantities of narcotics from Belize. He allegedly directed the distribution of powder and crack cocaine and “cooked” powder cocaine to produce crack, which was distributed in wholesale quantities. A cooperating former Belizean Bloods member told agents that Johnson had inherited his father’s drug connections when his father was deported to Belize. The Belizean Bloods narcotics distribution route allegedly included Illinois, Utah, Ohio, Indiana, New York and California.[quote]
Posted By: BlackFamily

Re: Street Gangs Growing, Evolving in Las Vegas - 06/05/13 10:11 PM

I understand the case of fraudelent bloods and crips in America and other countries. Scorsese already explain more of that situation. I think the Belize community blends in with either the black/latino community in Evanston. But there will be no crip/bloods sets in Chicago city due to the current gang culture already cemented there.
Posted By: UnderTheClock

Re: Street Gangs Growing, Evolving in Las Vegas - 06/05/13 11:27 PM

It would not be a loss to society if they all shot each other. None are likely on the verge of a major medical breakthrough.

It's hardly a secret that "no blood on the Strip" was the watchword during lcn days in LV.

As far as Chicago, I'm surprised that figure is only 70%. While that's blacks against blacks, violent interracial crime is overwhelmingly black against white, considering their differing proportions of the population.
Posted By: BlackFamily

Re: Street Gangs Growing, Evolving in Las Vegas - 06/06/13 01:36 AM

Same can go for la cosa nostra families, they should kill each other off too. Black on white or white on black makes no difference, its Americans killing Americans nothing new.
Posted By: UnderTheClock

Re: Street Gangs Growing, Evolving in Las Vegas - 06/06/13 02:23 AM

Not arguing with you.
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