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Pronunciation of Italian surnames in America

Posted By: Dwalin2011

Pronunciation of Italian surnames in America - 04/26/13 10:19 PM

How do Italian-Americans pronounce their names? I was rather surprised when in a documentary Michael Franzese pronounced his surname as /frantsi:z/ instead of /frantse:ze/. I thought wrong pronunciation (compared to the Italian original) was a mistake by non-Italians.
Posted By: bronx

Re: Pronunciation of Italian surnames in America - 04/27/13 01:13 AM

d'angelo is don..gelo''sciaccia is shocka.. d'arco..is darko and so on
Posted By: Antonio

Re: Pronunciation of Italian surnames in America - 04/27/13 02:00 PM

Franzeez as many say is actually "Fran-zeh-se". I do think the American way of saying them though sounds quite cool though, even though they are wrong.
Posted By: jackbottoxxx

Re: Pronunciation of Italian surnames in America - 04/28/13 03:26 AM

sciaccia is actually pronounced shi-ak-chia, (cia)chia like chia pet.
but, sciacca is pronounced shi-ack-ka
Posted By: jackbottoxxx

Re: Pronunciation of Italian surnames in America - 04/28/13 03:27 AM

D'Angelo is pronounced D-an-Jello
Posted By: carmela

Re: Pronunciation of Italian surnames in America - 04/28/13 03:41 AM

Originally Posted By: jackbottoxxx
D'Angelo is pronounced D-an-Jello


Not in Italy it's not. It's exactly how Bronx said it to be.
Posted By: Dwalin2011

Re: Pronunciation of Italian surnames in America - 04/28/13 07:01 AM

Originally Posted By: jackbottoxxx
sciaccia is actually pronounced shi-ak-chia,

No, it's shi-ach'-chia, the double "c" has the "ch" sound, not the "k" one.
Posted By: Antonio

Re: Pronunciation of Italian surnames in America - 04/28/13 12:30 PM

Originally Posted By: Dwalin2011
Originally Posted By: jackbottoxxx
sciaccia is actually pronounced shi-ak-chia,

No, it's shi-ach'-chia, the double "c" has the "ch" sound, not the "k" one.


I don't think there is so much emphasis on the "Shi" part, it's more like "Shya-Cha". But anyhoo...I suppose it also depends on what region in Italy your from.
Posted By: HairyKnuckles

Re: Pronunciation of Italian surnames in America - 04/28/13 01:23 PM

Here is a site you can use when looking for how exactly Italian words and names should be pronounced. It´s interesting! Click on the button, in front of the word/name.

http://sv.forvo.com/search/Sciascia/
Posted By: Dwalin2011

Re: Pronunciation of Italian surnames in America - 04/28/13 05:25 PM

Originally Posted By: Antonio

I don't think there is so much emphasis on the "Shi" part, it's more like "Shya-Cha". But anyhoo...I suppose it also depends on what region in Italy your from.

Yes, I think you are right, I just don't know how to make sound transcription well, for many of them there are special letters, but if copied from wikipedia, they aren't visible here, maybe the site doesn't support the option.
Posted By: carmela

Re: Pronunciation of Italian surnames in America - 04/28/13 08:43 PM

First of all, you're all talking about a name that does not exist. There is no "Sciaccia".

You have Sciacca, like the town in Sicily and that's pronounced: Sha ka.

Then you have Sciascia, like the surname, and that's pronounced: Sha sha.
Posted By: Dwalin2011

Re: Pronunciation of Italian surnames in America - 04/28/13 10:31 PM

Originally Posted By: carmela
First of all, you're all talking about a name that does not exist. There is no "Sciaccia".

By the way, speaking of non-existent surnames presented as Italian, I for example never heard of the surname Pentangeli in real life, only in the Godfather movie. I once tried to search for this surname on a site that shows in which regions a particular surname is more common, but "Pentangeli" came with zero results.
Posted By: ht2

Re: Pronunciation of Italian surnames in America - 04/28/13 10:40 PM

Originally Posted By: Dwalin2011

By the way, speaking of non-existent surnames presented as Italian, I for example never heard of the surname Pentangeli in real life, only in the Godfather movie. I once tried to search for this surname on a site that shows in which regions a particular surname is more common, but "Pentangeli" came with zero results.


The names Sollozzo and Tattaglia appear made up as well.
Posted By: Dwalin2011

Re: Pronunciation of Italian surnames in America - 04/28/13 11:20 PM

And sometimes they use real-life Italian surnames in mafia movies, but from the wrong region. For example, in "La piovra" ("The octopus") series some bosses of the Cupola are named Bartoli, Tirie', Caria, Salvati, Ceresa, Brocchieri, Lifredi and De Pisis. Some of the surnames maybe don't even exist and others are common in other regions, not Sicily. One of them (don't remember which) is common in Sardinia. De Pisis (the chairman of the Cupola in the series) is a Campanian surname, a rather rare one.
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