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Posted By: Dwalin2011

Mark Scarfo - 04/16/13 10:07 AM

Just been re-reading some stuff about NIcky Scarfo and I read his son hanged himself at the age of 17 because his classmates tormented him for being a mafia boss's son, something I haven't noticed before. I am against crime, particularly the mafia, but in this case my first thought was Nicky should have whacked the bastards, every single one of them. Underage people can be so heartless, even more than adults. Really, driving a boy to suicide just because another person (his father) is a scumbag! Do crimes like this (provoking someone's suicide) ever get really punished, apart from on paper?
Does anybody know how Mark Scarfo is now, is he still in coma?
Posted By: streetbossliborio

Re: Mark Scarfo - 04/16/13 10:38 AM

why would he be getting bullied? i thought this would of been seen as kool, or feared?
Posted By: Dwalin2011

Re: Mark Scarfo - 04/16/13 10:40 AM

Originally Posted By: streetbossliborio
why would he be getting bullied? i thought this would of been seen as kool, or feared?

Don't know, I thought so too, but it seems to have happened nevertheless:
http://articles.philly.com/1988-11-03/ne...suicide-attempt
Posted By: LCN1987

Re: Mark Scarfo - 04/16/13 01:20 PM

What's so tragic is that Scarfo disowned him after that incident. He said to Phillip Leonetti that he can't bring that kid down to South Philly no more... According to Scarfo he'd become an embarrassment. What fucking logic. Scarfo was nuts!
Posted By: ChiTown

Re: Mark Scarfo - 04/16/13 05:52 PM

Isn't the third Scarfo son a wealthy insurance entrepreneur who uses a different last name?
Posted By: Serpiente

Re: Mark Scarfo - 07/28/13 01:36 AM

you guys are close ,what do u want to know ,mark or his bro chris
Posted By: Caramela77

Re: Mark Scarfo - 07/28/13 03:47 AM

Originally Posted By: Serpiente
you guys are close ,what do u want to know ,mark or his bro chris


How about both and if you want maybe share to us who you are exactly as long as it doesn't affect or upset certain people?
Posted By: Logomassini

Re: Mark Scarfo - 07/28/13 04:15 AM

Yeah I'm a little confused as to why anyone would bully a wise guys kid. My Dad was arrested in Rockford, IL numerous times, twice for bookmaking, once for running a gambling op and once for extortion. The kids I went to school with at my Catholic School had fathers who were members of the Rockford Crew of the Outfit. If anyone was to have said anything ill willed or bullied me about my Dad i would drop that person. Period. My Dad wasn't anything big but a couple of my friends Dads were real deal guys and I just couldn't see anyone saying shit about their Dads, and if they did it would have been them saying how badass and cool it was.

But either way, it's very sad that Scarfo's boy chose to take his own life because some fucking rotten punk teenagers were tormenting them. If that was my brother and he committed suicide I would see red and make whoever was bullying him hurt very badly. I wouldn't even kill them, I would slowly inflect various types of torture on them so they would never treat someone like that again. I've always despised people who get pleasure out of hurting other people's feelings and bullying. It's a major problem now a days and the school systems do a horrible job of stopping it.

My Mom always told us boys that you should never treat other kids that way. You don't know what type of home life that person had or what type of long term damage your doing to that person. For all you know, that poor kid goes home everyday and gets abused at home. Then he goes to school where he feels an escape from his home life, and then he gets bullied and abused at school. No one would be able to handle that constant torment. And that's why kids end up taking their life. It's just sad. And what's even sadder is the parents of bullies, their shit parents and they are more than likely bullies themselves.
Posted By: Serpiente

Re: Mark Scarfo - 07/28/13 09:25 AM

caramela ,Mark was a great all around kid good at sports real good looking showed no signs of killing him self .Yes kids said stuff but he was well liked.When his dad got locked up 2nd or third time that was it ....being in that house with his dad was like living with the devil..him and Marks mom hated each other .and you could hear it each day her name is MiMi .And she still takes care of him. Now Chris sells property and holmes and yes he is a partner with someone and does good .And he is lejit....Chris hated being in the house between step mom and his dad he was out very young...But he did hang down in the office with us often,,,And him and phil were very close..now nicky jr was diff .do u want to know anything on jr.
Posted By: Giancarlo

Re: Mark Scarfo - 07/28/13 05:46 PM

Chris Scarfo now known as Christopher Ferry has been in the insurance business since the late 1980's. He has a office in South Jersey and he has another in Florida where i believe he now spends most of his time. He has 2 or 3 sons and one of them, to me at least, resembles Nicky Scarfo jr. He's 100% legit and always has been.

In his book Leonetti said Chris and Nicky Sr argued about everything. Too bad Chris couldn't get Mark out of that place before he tried to kill himself. Mark was a good kid.
Posted By: Serpiente

Re: Mark Scarfo - 07/28/13 06:17 PM

Giancarlo close it is Farley & Ferry Realty Inc. ventnor nj and he dont look like nicky jr. he and phil look more a like .and yes him and his father did argued a lot and he did not get along with MiMi .But he was at the office all the time and did help all legit .Nicky sr. had a problem with seamed like all .He does look like his dad also .i was there 70s thru mid 90s .
Posted By: Giancarlo

Re: Mark Scarfo - 07/28/13 06:27 PM

Here, does this guy look familiar to you?

http://www.weinsurefl.com/component/jtag...tails&mid=3

He also has Chris Ferry Insurance in Linwood NJ.

Chris's son looks like Nicky jr....not Chris himself.


Me might be into real estate too now for all i know but he's been an insurance guy since the late 1980's.
Posted By: Serpiente

Re: Mark Scarfo - 07/28/13 06:43 PM

yes , that is Chris he started with ins it was quiet.because he was with someone in the beginning i will only say first name Vince and he was connected so i thought it still was quiet. looking good.
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: Mark Scarfo - 08/03/14 02:37 PM

Poor kid. Been there, done that. I got bullied a lot too. Nobody deserves to go through that; no matter who their father is.

Anyone have a picture of the other son, Chris? That link seems to be down.
Posted By: hoodlum

Re: Mark Scarfo - 07/15/15 11:25 PM

vince sausto perhaps?
Posted By: Serpiente

Re: Mark Scarfo - 07/16/15 10:56 AM

Originally Posted By: hoodlum
vince sausto perhaps?
. YES
Posted By: STREETBOSS

Re: Mark Scarfo - 07/26/15 02:44 PM

yo,waz up guyz ive been on here for a while now & I had to sign up to let some of you guyz no waz up on some things on here..Marky Scarfo passed away back in Nov.
Posted By: Tonytough

Re: Mark Scarfo - 07/26/15 04:50 PM

Originally Posted By: LCN1987
What's so tragic is that Scarfo disowned him after that incident. He said to Phillip Leonetti that he can't bring that kid down to South Philly no more... According to Scarfo he'd become an embarrassment. What fucking logic. Scarfo was nuts!




No no I don't think Scarfo disowned him. It's been taken out of context. When Nicky said "if Mark recovers, he can't go back to South Philly (where he had the problems) and may trigger him to whack himself again.

I feel bad for all the Scarfo kids. One tried to top himself. Other wants nothing to do with his dad. One almost got whacked and is going to do heavy time

And I know how they feel, my dad is extremely controlling. The only way to truly break free is to sever all ties. I've considered moving abroad but even that won't solve anything, he'd prob come and visit/ stay at my place which would drive me even more nuts
Posted By: mackinblack007

Re: Mark Scarfo - 07/26/15 04:58 PM

Originally Posted By: Tonytough
Originally Posted By: LCN1987
What's so tragic is that Scarfo disowned him after that incident. He said to Phillip Leonetti that he can't bring that kid down to South Philly no more... According to Scarfo he'd become an embarrassment. What fucking logic. Scarfo was nuts!




No no I don't think Scarfo disowned him. It's been taken out of context. When Nicky said "if Mark recovers, he can't go back to South Philly (where he had the problems) and may trigger him to whack himself again.

I feel bad for all the Scarfo kids. One tried to top himself. Other wants nothing to do with his dad. One almost got whacked and is going to do heavy time

And I know how they feel, my dad is extremely controlling. The only way to truly break free is to sever all ties. I've considered moving abroad but even that won't solve anything, he'd prob come and visit/ stay at my place which would drive me even more nuts
wack em?
Posted By: Dwalin2011

Re: Mark Scarfo - 07/26/15 05:01 PM

I wonder why didn't such a vengeful and violent gangster as Nicky Scarfo try to kill the ones responsible for the bullying that led to the suicide. Why such forgiveness on this occasion?
Posted By: Serpiente

Re: Mark Scarfo - 07/26/15 07:32 PM

Originally Posted By: Tonytough
Originally Posted By: LCN1987
What's so tragic is that Scarfo disowned him after that incident. He said to Phillip Leonetti that he can't bring that kid down to South Philly no more... According to Scarfo he'd become an embarrassment. What fucking logic. Scarfo was nuts!




No no I don't think Scarfo disowned him. It's been taken out of context. When Nicky said "if Mark recovers, he can't go back to South Philly (where he had the problems) and may trigger him to whack himself again.

I feel bad for all the Scarfo kids. One tried to top himself. Other wants nothing to do with his dad. One almost got whacked and is going to do heavy time

And I know how they feel, my dad is extremely controlling. The only way to truly break free is to sever all ties. I've considered moving abroad but even that won't solve anything, he'd prob come and visit/ stay at my place which would drive me even more nuts


You have it real close with Mark and you are right about out of context,everyone takes it that way cos of the old mans rep.. Chris loves his father ,but did change his name for legitimate business reasons.
Don't be fooled by Chris he is street wise and grew up in that house and helped get many things off the ground.
Posted By: JCrusher

Re: Mark Scarfo - 07/27/15 12:12 PM

Originally Posted By: Dwalin2011
I wonder why didn't such a vengeful and violent gangster as Nicky Scarfo try to kill the ones responsible for the bullying that led to the suicide. Why such forgiveness on this occasion?

First off im sure he had no idea who did what to his son. Secondly Scarfo was more embarrassed by his son. Scarfo didn't give a damn about his sons. Chris Scarfo was the only son who told his father to "go screw himself" and then went on to make a legitimate life for himself
Posted By: Serpiente

Re: Mark Scarfo - 07/27/15 01:24 PM

Originally Posted By: JCrusher
Originally Posted By: Dwalin2011
I wonder why didn't such a vengeful and violent gangster as Nicky Scarfo try to kill the ones responsible for the bullying that led to the suicide. Why such forgiveness on this occasion?

First off im sure he had no idea who did what to his son. Secondly Scarfo was more embarrassed by his son. Scarfo didn't give a damn about his sons. Chris Scarfo was the only son who told his father to "go screw himself" and then went on to make a legitimate life for himself
. I don't know about that stuff ...but it was kids in Holy Spirit high school not from around the neighborhood. The people in the neighborhood knew what a great kid he really was ..
Posted By: Stubbs

Re: Mark Scarfo - 07/15/19 03:06 PM

Is this picture below of Mark Scarfo legit? If so, anyone seen it before? Seems to be from the Courier-Post from Camden, NJ from November 6, 1988. Sorry if it's a repost, I had never seen a photo of Mark before. RIP to the young man.

[Linked Image]
Posted By: Serpiente

Re: Mark Scarfo - 07/15/19 08:05 PM

That is definitely Mark and definitely Jr.

They both wore hats during the day but Mark would where a hat constantly , not that that hats have any thing to add but that’s how they looked everyday .

Jr. looks around 16-17 and Marks picture has been around for years and shown in a couple papers if not more. I think they were taken around the time they were both having trouble in High School obviously a couple years apart.
Posted By: PetroPirelli

Re: Mark Scarfo - 07/15/19 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by Serpiente
That is definitely Mark and definitely Jr.

They both wore hats during the day but Mark would where a hat constantly , not that that hats have any thing to add but that’s how they looked everyday .

Jr. looks around 16-17 and Marks picture has been around for years and shown in a couple papers if not more. I think they were taken around the time they were both having trouble in High School obviously a couple years apart.


Jr. may be a little older than 16-17 in that photo. Looks like he has a beard unless that's the lighting.
Posted By: Serpiente

Re: Mark Scarfo - 07/15/19 08:46 PM

Originally Posted by PetroPirelli
Originally Posted by Serpiente
That is definitely Mark and definitely Jr.

They both wore hats during the day but Mark would where a hat constantly , not that that hats have any thing to add but that’s how they looked everyday .

Jr. looks around 16-17 and Marks picture has been around for years and shown in a couple papers if not more. I think they were taken around the time they were both having trouble in High School obviously a couple years apart.


Jr. may be a little older than 16-17 in that photo. Looks like he has a beard unless that's the lighting.


Possibly , Mark has signs of a beard and he hung himself at 17 .

Myself and many of our Italian friends had beards and were shaving at 15 it’s common.

Jr. Started losing weight around 16 and weight he had since a little boy is gone ..... he was chunky and his face was much rounded when he was a kid and young teen.

So he is older 16 and I don’t think he is 20 yet .

Mark was always slender he was built like his dad but taller then sr. probably was at that age
Posted By: pmac

Re: Mark Scarfo - 07/16/19 02:23 AM

2cents. The son mark from the side by side with nick jr got dads genes. Shit nick jr has blonde hair and is balding. Kid die so young. I wonder if george A. Book blood n honor was out when the kid took his life. That book is so brutaly honest. It makes it probaly the greatest mob book to this day. Just wonder if the kid read it and was like wow my pops is the worst. Suicide always comes down to mental illness but maybe the book was a huge factor. Every one they kid knew read the book. It madw his dad like hitler. The worst person in the world. Nick the crow just or no george painted such a picture. It came out in the 80tys. I mean he tells how they nick sr kills testa jr his own godson. Then the part about the kid who worked in a jewelry store. He hung/SHOT himself cause testa and crazy phil were outside his store. Thats one i forgot did crazy phil talk about in his book? Serp i throw the books away after i read out , give them to free book can. Did phil talk about that kid? I forgot. Been awhile so scarfo and persico died. Amuso the last living. I will give ray patriarca jr still living out his yrs. Last boss standing approved by the real commission. That guy was smart and lucky. That guy got storys. But hes so rich beyond no need to spill them. Gotta respect that even if they called him a boss that couldnt lead a browny troop
Posted By: pmac

Re: Mark Scarfo - 07/16/19 02:31 AM

Also George was writing ln all scarfos trials in 88 so maybe the kid just kept reading about his dad an friends in paper everyday
Posted By: PetroPirelli

Re: Mark Scarfo - 07/16/19 02:44 AM

Yeah true, Serp.

Was Scarfo doing blow? He was over the top paranoid. I can't see someone being like that without being on something.

Was Salvie looked at as almost a Young Turk before the Merlino crew took over. Was that what Scarfo was predicting?

It ends up happening after he goes to prison and Stanfa takes control. Do you think Merlino would have still made the move if Scarfo never got locked up?
Posted By: MightyDR

Re: Mark Scarfo - 07/16/19 05:29 AM

Originally Posted by pmac
Then the part about the kid who worked in a jewelry store. He hung/SHOT himself cause testa and crazy phil were outside his store. Thats one i forgot did crazy phil talk about in his book? Serp i throw the books away after i read out , give them to free book can. Did phil talk about that kid?


The way Leonetti tells it, he was walking through the jewelry district with Lawrence Merlino, Salvie and Faffy having just bought a gift for his girlfriend and came across the Enrico Riccobene's shop. Salvie said "Let's go there are see what's on this kid's brain". The kid froze when he saw them through the window and wouldn't buzz them in. Someone told them to leave or they would call the cops. Riccobene shot himself in the head moments later.
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: Mark Scarfo - 07/16/19 10:34 AM

Mark was a good looking kid and it seems like he was too sensitive to be in that life. Pity.

I wouldn't necessarily say he suffered from a mental illness. He was probably doing it as a cry for help or to get attention from his dad, but it backfired. Poor guy.
Posted By: Serpiente

Re: Mark Scarfo - 07/16/19 10:45 AM

Pmac Mark did not die when he hung himself ,he died a few years back .

Jr. Does resemble Mimi side no doubt and Mark had dark features like his dad .

Phil was involved in the boys life . He had there back .

But like many of these guys like Nick sr. they destroy everything in there way and he was same . Mark was not cut out for the life .
Jr. was hands down the closest to his father and believed in the life . Jr. was not a killer but he was all in .

Chris was the one that was just like his father and don’t believe all the stories he was right there in it . But he seen the writing on the wall and when he met Mary Lou it pulled him away.... he was introduced to Mary from a friend her name is Debbie and it was the best thing that ever happened. They are divorced now she got the Real estate and he’s got the insurance and Boca rehab with his kids.

But yeah these guys are killers and Mark knew it was over the life that he knew as a family was gone so he tried to take his life ... he grew up in a very volatile house .
Posted By: Serpiente

Re: Mark Scarfo - 07/16/19 10:54 AM

Originally Posted by PetroPirelli
Yeah true, Serp.

Was Scarfo doing blow? He was over the top paranoid. I can't see someone being like that without being on something.

Was Salvie looked at as almost a Young Turk before the Merlino crew took over. Was that what Scarfo was predicting?

It ends up happening after he goes to prison and Stanfa takes control. Do you think Merlino would have still made the move if Scarfo never got locked up?


Jr. got nervous I am not going to say it was from blow but he had a lot come down on him and knowing he was choosing the life he was all that more concerned.

Talking about Salvie now Nick knew how strong Sal was and what a good leader he would be . Philly guys always had a problem with the boss living in AC and it was well known.

Nicky sr. knew he was going to end up in jail even before the last bust . So between Sal doing what he was on the side and dropping Chuckie daughter he knew it was perfect time to kill him .


These guys are serial killers and nothing was going to save Salvie once it was in Nicks head . If you notice much of what he was doing was to raise Phil status always.
Posted By: Serpiente

Re: Mark Scarfo - 07/16/19 11:03 AM

I don’t know if any of you have worked and lived with a demanding Italian father but it’s not easy and to do it for your entire life is harder .

This is what Phil and Chris we’re doing even though Chris was summer only in the early years did not matter he was just like his father and as time went on Phil wanted away from him just like Chris did .

But make no mistake about it Nicky did everything for Phil to rise and eventually take over the family and it may of happened if twenty guys did not know about every detail of every murder.

Nick thought it was 1945 and nobody was going to talk .....well he was wrong.
Posted By: JoeTadaro

Re: Mark Scarfo - 07/16/19 11:25 AM

Imagine if nick never killed salvie and if Phil never flipped lol even tho they both probably would have ended up in jail it def would have been different. There might not be a Joey Merlino lol
Posted By: blueracing347

Re: Mark Scarfo - 07/16/19 11:43 AM

Regarding killing everyone, the last two bosses were killed. I'm sure there was some paranoia that played a part. The Ricobene thing was a little too much. I always wondered why Manna or N.Y.for that matter didn't intervene and make Scarfo calm the fuck down. A white rolls Royce and boat named the usual suspects probably didn't help with law enforcement attention either. Phil and Salvie should have killed Scarfo and brought peace to the family.
Posted By: Serpiente

Re: Mark Scarfo - 07/16/19 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by blueracing347
Regarding killing everyone, the last two bosses were killed. I'm sure there was some paranoia that played a part. The Ricobene thing was a little too much. I always wondered why Manna or N.Y.for that matter didn't intervene and make Scarfo calm the fuck down. A white rolls Royce and boat named the usual suspects probably didn't help with law enforcement attention either. Phil and Salvie should have killed Scarfo and brought peace to the family.


Yeah bad !

Don’t understand it , other then NY was being watched heavily.

But if NY would of sent word to Harry to fall in line he would of ....but that’s not how they handle shit .

Fucken guys are treacherous and can not follow rules .... and that’s why the rules are in place,to keep a Secret society secret but not those fucks.
Posted By: JoeTadaro

Re: Mark Scarfo - 07/16/19 05:03 PM

Originally Posted by blueracing347
Regarding killing everyone, the last two bosses were killed. I'm sure there was some paranoia that played a part. The Ricobene thing was a little too much. I always wondered why Manna or N.Y.for that matter didn't intervene and make Scarfo calm the fuck down. A white rolls Royce and boat named the usual suspects probably didn't help with law enforcement attention either. Phil and Salvie should have killed Scarfo and brought peace to the family.

Originally Posted by blueracing347
Regarding killing everyone, the last two bosses were killed. I'm sure there was some paranoia that played a part. The Ricobene thing was a little too much. I always wondered why Manna or N.Y.for that matter didn't intervene and make Scarfo calm the fuck down. A white rolls Royce and boat named the usual suspects probably didn't help with law enforcement attention either. Phil and Salvie should have killed Scarfo and brought peace to the family.


That would have been awesome if Phil and salvie took out nicky and took over the family
Posted By: Stubbs

Re: Mark Scarfo - 07/16/19 08:05 PM

Originally Posted by blueracing347
Regarding killing everyone, the last two bosses were killed. I'm sure there was some paranoia that played a part. The Ricobene thing was a little too much. I always wondered why Manna or N.Y.for that matter didn't intervene and make Scarfo calm the fuck down. A white rolls Royce and boat named the usual suspects probably didn't help with law enforcement attention either. Phil and Salvie should have killed Scarfo and brought peace to the family.


You’re right, Scarfo was right to be paranoid after what happened to Bruno and Testa. Not to mention that he was trying to control South Philly from his base out in AC.

In defense of Scarfo, he was well within his rights to tell Ricobene to start paying him a street tax. Bruno kept his org way too lose. So Scarfo asking Harry to kick back a percent of his earnings was well within his rights as a boss.

And when Harry balked, Scarfo didnt have any choice but to kill him to send him a message... especially given all of the unstableness of the past few years after Bruno got killed. Scarfo had to send the message that he was to be feared and respected.

I remember reading somewhere that Harry thought he shouldve been made boss, and maybe that was part of why he told Scarfo off.
Posted By: Stubbs

Re: Mark Scarfo - 07/16/19 08:11 PM

Originally Posted by JoeTadaro
Originally Posted by blueracing347
Regarding killing everyone, the last two bosses were killed. I'm sure there was some paranoia that played a part. The Ricobene thing was a little too much. I always wondered why Manna or N.Y.for that matter didn't intervene and make Scarfo calm the fuck down. A white rolls Royce and boat named the usual suspects probably didn't help with law enforcement attention either. Phil and Salvie should have killed Scarfo and brought peace to the family.

Originally Posted by blueracing347
Regarding killing everyone, the last two bosses were killed. I'm sure there was some paranoia that played a part. The Ricobene thing was a little too much. I always wondered why Manna or N.Y.for that matter didn't intervene and make Scarfo calm the fuck down. A white rolls Royce and boat named the usual suspects probably didn't help with law enforcement attention either. Phil and Salvie should have killed Scarfo and brought peace to the family.


That would have been awesome if Phil and salvie took out nicky and took over the family


No way Phil goes against his uncle. He only ratted on him because he didnt want to do the 40+ years, but no way he has his uncle killed.

Plus Scarfo was backed by the Genovese... and these guys knew all too well what happened when Caponigro had a boss clipped. Phil and Salvie wouldve been found in car trunks just like Tony Bananas. The Chin dont fuck around.

The way I read it: Salvie was killed as a favor to Chuckie, which is why Scarfo was so infuriated later with Chuckie’s drinking. Scarfo felt he did Chuckie this big favor only for him to turn around and embarass him... so he had to knock Chuckie down.
Posted By: Serpiente

Re: Mark Scarfo - 07/16/19 09:48 PM

Right on Stubbs

Not just that but plenty of guys Phil did not say a word about. He was not aloud to lie but you bet he had laid ground rules going in .

He wrote his own ticket for most part other then the info the Feds wanted on NY and of course some Philly but trust me he did not tell it all.

And I can not believe he is not doing a movie yet ..... because last year it sure looked like it .....but should not be long.
Posted By: JoeTadaro

Re: Mark Scarfo - 07/17/19 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by Stubbs
Originally Posted by JoeTadaro
Originally Posted by blueracing347
Regarding killing everyone, the last two bosses were killed. I'm sure there was some paranoia that played a part. The Ricobene thing was a little too much. I always wondered why Manna or N.Y.for that matter didn't intervene and make Scarfo calm the fuck down. A white rolls Royce and boat named the usual suspects probably didn't help with law enforcement attention either. Phil and Salvie should have killed Scarfo and brought peace to the family.

Originally Posted by blueracing347
Regarding killing everyone, the last two bosses were killed. I'm sure there was some paranoia that played a part. The Ricobene thing was a little too much. I always wondered why Manna or N.Y.for that matter didn't intervene and make Scarfo calm the fuck down. A white rolls Royce and boat named the usual suspects probably didn't help with law enforcement attention either. Phil and Salvie should have killed Scarfo and brought peace to the family.


That would have been awesome if Phil and salvie took out nicky and took over the family


No way Phil goes against his uncle. He only ratted on him because he didnt want to do the 40+ years, but no way he has his uncle killed.

Plus Scarfo was backed by the Genovese... and these guys knew all too well what happened when Caponigro had a boss clipped. Phil and Salvie wouldve been found in car trunks just like Tony Bananas. The Chin dont fuck around.

The way I read it: Salvie was killed as a favor to Chuckie, which is why Scarfo was so infuriated later with Chuckie’s drinking. Scarfo felt he did Chuckie this big favor only for him to turn around and embarass him... so he had to knock Chuckie down.


Your right no way chin would have let that slide they def would have got the caponigro treatment
Posted By: JoeTadaro

Re: Mark Scarfo - 07/17/19 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by Serpiente
Right on Stubbs

Not just that but plenty of guys Phil did not say a word about. He was not aloud to lie but you bet he had laid ground rules going in .

He wrote his own ticket for most part other then the info the Feds wanted on NY and of course some Philly but trust me he did not tell it all.

And I can not believe he is not doing a movie yet ..... because last year it sure looked like it .....but should not be long.


Without going in to detail what kind of stuff did phil leave out of his testimony? And I really hope he does a movie cuz that would be such a great story if it was told properly.
Posted By: Serpiente

Re: Mark Scarfo - 07/17/19 02:55 PM

Without saying names ... look who is kicking up now and if they are over 50 they were still in business and if younger go backwards to see who took there spot. Remember mob don’t let rackets retire . Then there is North Jersey guys you know Phil being underboss knew everything. There were also guys left in western PA and north western PA that are blood and I am not saying there is a family out there I am saying there were / are guys out there and some are blood to current members.

You have to see who married who also because many of them are active .

Think about this, the bust with Sammy who made Sammy and those guys ? Why were they aloud to operate with Skinny knowing what was what and who they were around.

I would not doubt there are more that we have no clue about that have been making $$$ quietly and keeping Skinny in RR and in Etro suites.

You bet Eddie Jacob’s and crew are not taking checks .

I don’t know but I would bet Phil only gave what was negotiating ! I don’t think he just told it all ..... he gave a lot of old shifting that OC bars report but most of those guys were dead or business sold years ago.

Feds most likely wanted NY info to back up what they had , and Phil had to give that to get the deal .

After Stanfa and Skinny stopped the shooting the family started making money and it was from all those that were not given up because otherwise there would of been zero cash for all of them .

Chuckie was probably big in getting many of those guys info to Skinny and company to start kicking.
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