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Bosses With College Degrees?

Posted By: BaltimoreSteel69

Bosses With College Degrees? - 03/28/13 05:25 PM


Were there any bosses with college degrees? While researching, I could only find one, Milwaukee boss Frank Peter Balistrieri?
Posted By: mike68

Re: Bosses With College Degrees? - 03/28/13 05:47 PM

Vinny Ferrara, the Boston capo, is a graduate of Boston College if I recall correctly
Posted By: SnickersMagillicutti

Re: Bosses With College Degrees? - 03/28/13 07:08 PM

Their education comes from the streets.
Posted By: ovation32

Re: Bosses With College Degrees? - 03/28/13 07:20 PM

GREAT thread. I would absolutely love to know the answer to this. I highly doubt any bosses have degrees prior to the Commission Case. So we would have to look pretty much exclusively at NY and Chicago. Chicago is out. In New York, I cannot think of a single one. Very interesting though. I think it would be a scary prospect if someone with a degree in higher education STILL opted to be in the mob. It would likely mean that the person is completely sociopathic.

I know Gravano did not have a degree by any means, but he came from a wealthy background and still opted for that life. That is equally as scary to me.

Maybe Jackie Giacalone?
Posted By: BaltimoreSteel69

Re: Bosses With College Degrees? - 03/28/13 08:19 PM


Of course it came from the streets, I was just interested to know if any had been through that system. Education comes in many forms.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Bosses With College Degrees? - 03/28/13 08:21 PM

I believe Tony Zerilli as well as Jack Tocco have college degrees. Maybe Bill Bonanno and Tommy Gambino as well.
Posted By: SiciNy

Re: Bosses With College Degrees? - 03/28/13 08:24 PM

Alphone Persico, i dont kno if he finished college tho
Posted By: BaltimoreSteel69

Re: Bosses With College Degrees? - 03/28/13 08:35 PM


Wikkipedia said he graduated from the University of Detroit in 1949?


Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
I believe Tony Zerilli as well as Jack Tocco have college degrees. Maybe Bill Bonanno and Tommy Gambino as well.
Posted By: HairyKnuckles

Re: Bosses With College Degrees? - 03/28/13 08:43 PM

I believe Joe Bonanno was college educated before fleeing Sicily. He studied at a Nautical Institute in Palermo. He wanted to become a sea captain.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Bosses With College Degrees? - 03/28/13 08:44 PM

Originally Posted By: HairyKnuckles
I believe Joe Bonanno was college educated before fleeing Sicily. He studied at a Nautical Institute in Palermo. He wanted to become a sea captain.


When that didn't work out he became a mob captain instead.
Posted By: HairyKnuckles

Re: Bosses With College Degrees? - 03/28/13 08:47 PM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: HairyKnuckles
I believe Joe Bonanno was college educated before fleeing Sicily. He studied at a Nautical Institute in Palermo. He wanted to become a sea captain.


When that didn't work out he became a mob captain instead.


lol
Posted By: TonyBoy117

Re: Bosses With College Degrees? - 03/28/13 08:47 PM

DeCavalcante Captain Phil Abramo
Posted By: ht2

Re: Bosses With College Degrees? - 03/28/13 09:19 PM

Originally Posted By: HairyKnuckles
I believe Joe Bonanno was college educated before fleeing Sicily. He studied at a Nautical Institute in Palermo. He wanted to become a sea captain.


He never got his degree though. He claimed he was suspended for being anti-fascist or anti-Mussolini.
Posted By: NickyEyes1

Re: Bosses With College Degrees? - 03/28/13 09:20 PM

Carmine Galante
Posted By: ovation32

Re: Bosses With College Degrees? - 03/28/13 09:59 PM

Galante!? No way.
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Bosses With College Degrees? - 03/28/13 10:06 PM

Galante did not have a college degree. He was as thug as you can get.
Posted By: ht2

Re: Bosses With College Degrees? - 03/28/13 10:10 PM

Here's an interesting exchange with Jerry Catena at one of the Kefauver hearings:
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The Chairman. Why does a fellow like you, if you don't mind us talking about it, and how does a fellow like you get started in this sort of underworld kind of business? Is it because of associates you have, or lack of education, lack of housing? What is it ?

Mr. Catena. Do you want my opinion ?

The Chairman. Yes; I would be glad to have it.

Mr. Catena. I think it is mostly lack of education.

The Chairman. Where were you born, for instance ?

Mr. Catena. I was born in Newark, N. J.

Senator Tobey. Are your father and mother living ?

Mr. Catena. No; my mother died when I was 15 years old.

The Chairman. How much schooling do you have ?

Mr. Catena. I graduated school and went to night school for 2 years.

The Chairman. You graduated from high school ?

Mr. Catena. No; I graduated from grammar school and went to night school, high school, 2 years.

The Chairman. It is just the associates you had around, some way to find an easy way to make money, is that the way you got into it ?

Mr. Catena. I believe that is it.

The Chairman. Sir?

Mr. Catena. I believe that is it, Senator. I went in business and am in business now and getting along fine, and I want to raise my children properly. I got all this publicity, and I got so confused. I made some nice associates, and then I could not keep on doing it. The publicity just knocked me out again.

The Chairman. Well, you got into things to make easy money ?

Mr. Catena. I know that; I have nobody else to blame but myself.

The Chairman. Sir?

Mr. Catena. I have nobody else to blame but myself.
Posted By: marine

Re: Bosses With College Degrees? - 03/29/13 12:06 AM

Hey great thread..good thinking there i will be watchin this thread..I bet there are only a handful..Or a few lower level guys nobody knows about..More mob guys were probally in the military over even attending any college..
Posted By: Dapper_Don

Re: Bosses With College Degrees? - 03/29/13 12:09 AM

Originally Posted By: Ciro
Alphone Persico, i dont kno if he finished college tho


i believe he finished only one semester

cutolo jr graduated from community college

mikey franzese was also in college but dropped out

dont know any guys who actually graduated
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Bosses With College Degrees? - 03/29/13 12:43 AM

Originally Posted By: ht2
Mr. Catena. I know that; I have nobody else to blame but myself.

The Chairman. Sir?

Mr. Catena. I have nobody else to blame but myself.


What an asshole, this chairman. Way over his head. Insists to be called sir by another adult. And if you refuse, then what?
Posted By: LCN1987

Re: Bosses With College Degrees? - 03/29/13 01:03 AM

Carmine didn't have a degree. Only degree he ever had was being ruthless, greedy and fearless. An absolute maniac of a man.
Posted By: streetbossliborio

Re: Bosses With College Degrees? - 03/29/13 01:41 AM

maranzano mite of been, also the detroit boys were. tocco and zerilli. them 2 r so oldddddd, harsh how tocco shelved him after giving his life for this thing of ours then bein shelved in ur 70s bcos of wiretap i think. very [BadWord]
Posted By: TommyGambino

Re: Bosses With College Degrees? - 03/29/13 02:08 PM

Didn't Raymond Patriarca Jr go to college?
Posted By: EastHarlemItal

Re: Bosses With College Degrees? - 03/29/13 02:09 PM

Yes, URI
Posted By: Skinny

Re: Bosses With College Degrees? - 03/29/13 03:35 PM

Didnt barney get a degree in prison?
Posted By: NickyEyes1

Re: Bosses With College Degrees? - 03/29/13 05:30 PM

Jimmy Burke
Posted By: ThePolakVet

Re: Bosses With College Degrees? - 03/29/13 09:59 PM

Semyon Mogilevich finished Lviv Univerisity with a Degree in economics.
A lot of other Russian mob bosses had finished physical education schools or military schools, holding their degree's.

Worthful to mention, altough Vyacheslav Ivankov didn't have a degree, he read a lot and did "self education" by reading a lot of books, making him a real intelectual. He was one of the most inteligent criminals in the lines of Vory V Zakone.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Bosses With College Degrees? - 03/31/13 01:05 AM

Lol @ Carmine Galante. The guy had a 5th grade education in his adult years.
Posted By: NickyEyes1

Re: Bosses With College Degrees? - 03/31/13 01:14 AM

Sarcasm
Posted By: Ted

Re: Bosses With College Degrees? - 03/31/13 03:15 AM

Frank DeSimone
Posted By: GerryLang

Re: Bosses With College Degrees? - 03/31/13 02:32 PM

I believe Luchese Sal Avellino went to college, and James Martorano from Boston. I don't think either finished though.
Posted By: bronx

Re: Bosses With College Degrees? - 03/31/13 08:30 PM

tommy gambino, allie boy..
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