Non-Italian Made Men?

In all of it's history, has there ever been a non-Italian who was made? I know it was against the rules, you had to be a full blooded Italian, but is their any empirical evidence or anything about this?

Chucky Porter -Pitt and John Veasey-Philly. Is Andrew Campos made?

Tommy Del- Philly. He was half polish but I don't think it was known until he began cooperating.

Andrew Campos is half-italian, so is Veasey. The OP was referring to non-italians

Are some of you Philly posters familiar with Louis Campbell? I would love to know more about him. Apparently, he was close to Joseph Rugnetta and some claim he was made. It turns out his mother was Sicilian so the claim doesn´t seem that far fetched. But I have a hard time "accepting" a guy named Campbell being made. But that´s just me...

So all that "tracing your ancestry back to the old country (Sicily)" was not real as indicated from Henry Hill?

If you make a lot of maoney or they want you bad enough they will create some type of heritage connection. Andre Campos made millions, John Veasey and Frank Selemme were ruthless and John Gotti Jr isn't he half jewish?

According to his wiki page Jr's mother was russian on her mothers side but she had an italian last maiden name, DiGiorgio. So i think Jr's mom might of been half italian, anyone know for sure?

Robert La Puma in Detroit he is half polish.

There's never been anyone made who didn't at least have some Italian blood. As for made guys who were partially Italian, I've posted the names below before...


Frank "Cadillac Frank" Salemme - New England Boss (Half Irish)
John "Junior" Gotti - Gambino Acting Boss (1/4 Jewish)
John "Jackie" Salemme - New England Acting Boss (Half Irish)
James "Jimmy" Marcello - Chicago Acting Boss (Half Irish)
Charles "Chucky" Porter - Pittsburgh Underboss (Half English/Irish)
Albert "Kid Blast" Gallo - Genovese Captain (Half Irish)
Craig DePalma - Gambino Soldier (Half Jewish)
Andrew "Andy" Campos - Gambino Captain (Half Puerto Rican)
James "Jimmy" Martorano - New England Captain (1/4 Jewish)
Joseph "The Nodder" Sodano - Philadelphia Captain (1/4 Jewish)
Vincent (Filipelli) Philipps - Philadelphia Soldier (1/2 Itailan/1/2 ?)
Joseph "The Beach Bum" Massei - Detroit Captain (Half English)
Joseph "Crazy Joe" Gallo - Colombo Soldier (Half Irish)
Lawrence "Larry" Gallo - Colombo Soldier (Half Irish)
John Veasey - Philadelphia Soldier (Half English/Irish)
Frank Salemme Jr. - New England Soldier (3/4 Irish)
Robert "Bobby the Tiger" La Puma - Detroit Soldier (Half Polish)
Andrew "Andy Knapik" Merola - Gambino soldier

Wasn't there a Frank Morales in Philly

Are you thinking of Frank Martines?

It may seem strange, but Martines is an Italian surname.. the Spanish colonization in Italy has been very strong (In the south Italy and Lombardy in the north) and this surname remained in Italy

Ivy in all due respect and I mean that sincerely, I have to call bullshit on about half those names, The Gallos, Sodano,Fillipelli, Jimmy Matorano was half Irish half Italian,I have no earthly clue about these Detroit people, and Andy Campos heritage is one of the most worn out discussions on this website, however Im more than willing to believe otherwise though If I saw proof, besides that the rest are spot on

Uh oh!!! Lol.

Just for the record, unless you're referring to the Hebrew people, you can't be half or 1/4 Jewish as it's only a religion.

Drives me insane with 1/2 Jewish, 1/4 Jewish! It's a religion!

another good thread.. i didnt even see it right at first, non italians..I think there are jewish and irish guys who are real good friends with some of these mob guys..And after years of service there are probally a few that get that made status..I think bugsy siegel only one i heard of..

great list!

jewish is a race as well.

It's not a race! Calling it a nationality is a stretch, it's a religion.

Apologies for any incorrect info. The list was compiled from different people on the other forum.



Would you prefer 1/2 Semitic?

Andy catnip is italian.

Big Vince Filipelli in philly was born Vincent Phillips. Ivy was correct.

By non Italian do mean 100%? I thought VEasey was half Italian on his mother's side?

I only know of fictional Soprano character Kevin Sharkey.

I think he means guys who had no Italian blood whatsoever. It's fairly common knowledge that a good number of guys have been made who weren't 100% and even some who were only Italian on their mother's side.

100% non-italian? I can't think of any that were made that weren't at least partially italian. Has there been one?

No, that's what I'm saying. There has never been a guy made who didn't at least have some Italian blood.

Yes. I knew i was off but also knew that somebody would swoop in and correct me, thanks thats the guy i was talkin about

I stand corrected, what was his story I wonder, could be he's half English but it also could of been the Anglicized version of Fillipelli, also I think Frank Salleme Jr was the "Least Italian" guy ever made at 25 percent

Another one of them guys, Italian on his mothers side. Not sure what ethnicity the father was but his name was Henry V. Phillips. Filipelli changing his name has been mentioned in a couple different articles on the Stanfa crew.

From a 1993 Washington Post Article that was picked up by different papers.

"Crime family members and associates at times oblige the public by encouraging the romance of the largely Italian mob. Vincent Filipelli, a muscle-bound man police say is Stanfa's bodyguard, was born Vincent Phillips, but went to court to Italianize his name, according to a law enforcement official. "

http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19930906&slug=1719706

Filipelli is a play on his birth name Phillips. In another article it said he changed it when he was 18.

There's a british guy who's considered a made member of either the camorra or nrandgheta.he's in jail but gets some kind of money on his books and such.ill see if I can find it and post a link

I remember reading something about that. It was definitely the Camorra. I think the guy was Scottish.

Must be Brandon Queen mentioned in "Gomorra" by Roberto Saviano.

theres too many to name...

in new england
cadilliac frank salemme- irish
jimmy martarano- irish
billy angelesco- irish
greg costa- portuguese
pryce quintana-jewish

any one can take a greasy last name, last names have nothing to do with it... you could have a greasy last name and be the biggest paddy out there, its just family and upbringing/life circumstances... ALL THAT TRACEING AND CONFIRMING ITALIAN HERITAGE HAS NOT BEEN USED SINCE THE 1970'S ANY ONE ON HERE CAN QUOTE ME ON THAT... I WAS TOLD BY GUYS ITS MORE OF A CRIMINAL STATURE THING THESEDAYS AND IF ONE OF YOUR PARENTS HAS ITALIAN HERITAGE ITS A PLUS, EVEN MORE SOO IF YOU HAVE AN ITALIAN LAST NAME.... if billy angelesco wasnt estranged from his father billy russell SR. we probally woldnt be talking aobut him this much on threads... his name would of been billy russel jr. if his dad wasnt a deadbeat.

Crazy Joe Gallo was half Irish? I'm no mob historian but that's news to me. Wasn't he straightened out at 17 too?

He wasn´t half Irish. Don´t know where that comes from. He and his brother Larry were made around 1957. So he was around 27 or 28 when made.

HK is right. Larry and Joe Gallo were 100% Italian. Vincent (Filipelli) Philipps of Philly was 100% paisano as well, just either the Ellis Island people changed his last name back in the days or he did.

New England

Cadilliac Frank Salemme - 50% Irish
Jimmy Martarano - 25% Jewish and rest Italian
Billy Angelesco - 50% Irish
Greg Costa - 50% Portuguese
Pryce Quintana - 50% Jewish
Frank Salemme Jr - 75% Irish
John Salemme - 50% Irish

Gambino

John (Junior) Gotti - 25% Jewish and rest Italian
Craig DePalma - 50% Jewish
Andrew Campos - 50% Puerto Rican

Pittsburgh

Charles Porter - 50% Anglo-American

Philadelphia

John Veasey - 50% Anglo-American
Joseph Sodano - 25% Jewish and rest Italian
Frank Martines - 25% Spaniard and rest Italian

Chicago

James "Jimmy" Marcello - 50% Irish

Genovese

Albert Gallo - 50% Irish

Detroit

Joseph Massei - 50% Anglo-American
Robert La Puma - 50% Polish

Hey Stern thanks for the info jersey boi!

You're from Jersey?

My family a chain of pizzeria's out on the westcoast but operate from jersey

were the part of the pizza connection there? lol

The Feds were in fact listing Kevin "Hair" Sharkey as a Soldier.

I always thought that Harry Aleman (50% Hispanic) was made but maybe I am wrong.

I'm sure I read somewhere recently that Vito rizzuto made a couple of non italians Raymond desjardins and also Juan Ramon Fernandez , I'm not sure I believe that at all , even though rizzuto wields tremendous power he is still only listed as a bonnano soldier and I doubt he alone could buck century old traditions . Even he answers to someone