Top Genovese guys today

Back in the middle to late 1970's,early 80's,Matty the Horse Ianello,Quiet Dom,Barney,Ernest Muscarella,Danny Leo, where were these guys as far as theyr power goes in those days? Being such a secretive family it's not so rare of us to find out a guy we've only started hearing of in recent years has really been a powerhouse for decades in that family.

Matty, QD, Danny Leo, Musceralla all rising and heavy. Add in Angelo Prisco, Dominick DiQuatro, Dom Cantinero and about fifty other Dom's. All big players
Barney was in high school in the 70's became huge overnight in the mid 80's. Literally overnight.

Most of the guys you mentioned are still pretty powerful. Other than Matty who's dead but I think prisco still runs things from the can, is that right east?

Most I mentioned are dead! All the Dom's at least!

What did he do to rise so fast east?

My opinion, first off he was Sal's kid! Everyone respected Sal. He was smart, loyal, fearless, cunning, treacherous, tough, no bad personal habits, kept close council and Fat Tony and Chin both looked out for and groomed him. But if you ask why I really think. Barney is a master politician, he played the middle on Chin and Tony. So they both pushed him up! Just my thoughts.

The only Dom left is QD right?

There was truly only one QD! Nice old man he is.

Hey east you hear anything about Danny Leo since his release from the can?

He wont be moving back to Harlem anytime soon! Joking aside no. Being stuck in Florida so long now I dont hear much current stuff.

Thanks east... How young did he start? What did he start off doing? Half sheet, a little weed, usual 18-19 yr old shit?

All the usual just early. Plus living in East Harlem at that time helped because he was there.

When did he get his stripes?

18 or something?

Just after his Dad passed away, just about 20

A half sheet at 19 years old on 116th Street back then? Are you nuts?

You were lucky to start with a quarter sheet, and even then you had too split it with the guy who vouched for you .

And nothing was yours, it was all theirs.

I'm guessing that you've never heard of Dom Pietranico?

But then again, how could you? Those old timers don't do Cape Cod in the summertime .

we do get a lot of new Yorkers and jersey boys in summer. But I doubt any wise guys are looking to get away in cape cod plus we have enough old people here as it is

Times change i guess

It's still a pain in the ass getting paid. Times ain't changed that much .

Thats why i stuck to the fball cards!

Past tense of coarse.

They put me through Fordham University. But I ended up working for the fucking union anyway .

Shit i almost got kicked out of school when they found like 40 of them in my truck... Like 600 bucks in tens and fives didnt help either. But it was a good excuse not to pay out!

Ugh, Skinny you always gotta pay! That's your name! Reputation!

I was the only guy with cards in 3 high schools! No body minded anyways...nobody with any balls at least

Does matter, you know! Always pay. You don't they Rat!

Jail worth $600?

Oh! Fordham! Fancy! Fancy! That why you moved out of the neighborhood? To good for us after that?

It was then! I was moving schools plus i bought my car for 700, so 600 was a lot to me then. But i know what u mean.

I know he's fighting a case but what about Steven Depiro? I would think with him be named as acting for Tino he would have some sorta juice. Not to mention he was involved in the unions and everything else from what i've read.

Pizzaboy,

What Union were you part of?

What position did you hold?

I've heard of him Pizz, old time Bronx guy who just got busted in the Westchester garbage case, I believe he also has the distinction of being the only wiseguy in Mahopac New York,that place is the trailer park version of Staten Island

Why do people keep saying Depiro was acting captain for Fiumara? Unless I missed something else, his indictment said he was a soldier. The last guy to be said to be acting captain of the Fiumara (now Coppola) crew was Michael Borelli.

Cause he runs the docks

Well, that's already jumping to a conclusion. He was simply described as the point man there. In the indictment, he seems to have been involved in gambling and loansharking operations like Joe Queli was. I'm not sure if he was actually involved in the labor racketeering aspect of the docks, though he may have been. But I've seen nothing that says he was running the entire crew at any time.

They may say he's a soldier but they don't know for sure

Ivy, if you will take my word for anything let it be this. They don't go to the docks everyday for the coffee and conversation. Those docks are HELL on earth. I've poured a ton of concrete at those docks and yards, when your pouring concrete and feel bad for others you know it must be bad. Because pouring concrete is about the hardest work there is. Until I watched what those animals do day in day out!

I'm not saying this guy is a labor shiester, just saying those places suck! And the smell is awful. Combination of Sea and Fumes!

They'd know better than anyone on this forum or any other.

I'm just saying that people shouldn't jump to the conclusion he is or was the acting captain of the crew. Why? Just because he was named in the waterfront indictment? Joe Queli was named in one as wells Going by the same criteria, we may has well call Queli the acting captain too.

This is what I mean about certain things being assumed as fact on these forums. They then get repeated over and over again by different parties. And before you know it, it's accepted as the truth by everybody.

If Depiro was the acting captain, the feds would likely have known it and he would have been labeled as such in the indictment.

No I agree, howeve if there is smoke there's usually fire. That's terrible to say about a guy I don't know but it's true. Like I said there's not many places worse to spend your time. Well maybe a funeral home! Zing Bamb Boom

Beech runs the docks, Joe Q is a street guy. Call me a bad source or discredit me all u want. I dont give a fuck. Its there for anyone who chooses to believe some guy with a rick ross avator on the internet. I know ur not convinced. I couldnt give a half a fuck.

I was a business agent for Teamsters Local 813 in New York City. I was a worker, a steward, then finally a business agent for a total of 25 years. That's funeral workers and private sanitation. I worked on the funeral side of the local but we crossed over quite a bit to help each other.

I lived around the corner from Fordham. 187th and Hoffman. You really have to stop drinking your lunch .

Shit Ivy be cool, i was asking a question i enjoy the info your able to give but no reason to get bothered by it. Anyways i may have misread but that was the impression i was under, not to mention there was some sort of contact between him and tino and i think he was named as the one Made member in the inditment i may be wrong on that though so a simply correction will do if i am.

PB jelous? Drinks taste better looking at sand, the Gulf and beautiful ladies!

I'm not upset here. I've just noticed that a few people have been referring to Depiro as the acting captain. And, since he was identified in his indictment as a soldier, I naturally wonder where they're getting this from.

OK, for the sake of argument, let's say Depiro runs the docks. Does that automatically mean that he's the acting captain of that crew? Does one equal the other? No. I can believe he was running the docks more easily because a soldier can do that. But if he was acting captain, at least at the time of the indictment, he would have most likely been labeled as such.

Nothing for nothing that's where a TON of money is! Takes brains too!

Probably just reading different forms and what not but it's good to have the right info. It's safe to assume that he's got a good chance to grab some power? What kind of time is he looking at?

I agree. Those news article, as well as the most recent waterfront report, showed just how much some of these guys are making in their cushy ILA jobs. Plus you have kickbacks from other ILA workers, shakedown payments from waterfront businesses, rigged contracts, inflated service provider payments, etc.



Anything is possible. If Depiro was announced by the feds to be the new acting captain next Monday, I wouldn't be surprised. Even Borelli was only named in the 2004 New Jersey OC report. The only thing that's fairly certain at the moment is that Michael Coppola is the official captain of the crew.

Right but what kind of time do his charges carry and is there any chance they could send him up for more than 10? I would think 10 or more would put a severve hamper on his rise in the family.

Besides joke jobs, biggest ILA scam is cutting back a guys hours. They come to you asking for work "yeah, sure but you give me $5 an hour of that". What's a guy going to do! Then they lend money to those guys, they give them enough hours to pay it back then choke there hours back again for another loan. Vicious cycle
They also set up check cashing, force guys to use them. 2% don't sound like much, however when total payroll is 100K that's not bad. You going to tell the guy who gives you your hours he can't cash your check?

What about giving a guy a decent postion and then telling him i put you here so you're gonna give me 10% of your yearly pay, i would think that shit happens all the time but i just asking or am i way off? If you do that with a couple guys that adds up to alot of fucking cabbage lol.

Only blood relations gets those jobs. Why give a guy a job at who can cut into your action?

Damn i've really thought that would happen, what about the lower paying jobs 10% of 75,000 is still alot the way the economy is if it was offered to me i would talk it and i would think most people who dont make that would jump at it?

Anybody know where the three DiNapoli brothers fit in today,I know Vinny is still supposedly a skipper and he's got the two brother with the Luchese's Joe an Lou(A soldier I'm his crew) but I haven't heard much about them lately

If you look at the possible penalties for each count in the indictment, they're often very long. If a guy like Depiro was convicted and actually served the time specified, he'd be in prison for a long time. But most likely there will be a plea agreement, which drastically cuts the time he'll be behind bars.

Probably trying to fit into diapers. There all so old! Vinny was a very successful contractor and he hasn't been around since the early 90's. I wouldn't be suprised if they were all done.

If u can find where i said beech is acting captain ill give you blow job.