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Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over

Posted By: antimafia

Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/09/13 01:32 PM

Go to

http://blogs.montrealgazette.com/2013/02...s-far-from-over

and click on the link to the audio by Paul Cherry, reporter for The Gazette in Montreal.

Then visit

http://www.montrealgazette.com/mobile/ne...0509/story.html

to read the article he wrote on this very same subject.

Next, go to the companion piece found at

http://www.canada.com/news/Nine+shootings+three+months/7941017/story.html
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/09/13 05:06 PM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
Then visit

http://www.montrealgazette.com/mobile/ne...0509/story.html

to read the article he wrote on this very same subject.


One of the better articles that summarize the situation in Montreal of the past several years up until now.
Posted By: antimafia

Is the mob war indeed over? - 05/31/13 03:13 AM

According to TVA Nouvelles -- and it's an exclusive! -- Vito Rizzuto has retained his crown. A lot of problems with the story (mostly factual errors), but I post items regardless of whether I agree with them.

Link:

http://tvanouvelles.ca/lcn/infos/faitsdivers/archives/2013/05/20130530-181114.html

Google translation:

Vito Rizzuto is still the godfather
TVA Nouvelles
First published May 30, 2013 at 6:11 pm

Only eight months after his release from prison , Vito Rizzuto has indeed resumed its activities . TVA Nouvelles has learned that it is again considered the godfather Montreal .

Vito Rizzuto has spent the last six years in prison in Colorado, United States. Meanwhile, his opponents were eliminated one by one all employees including close family like his brother, Paolo Renda, his son, Nick Jr., and without that nobody rises to replicate.

"The Sicilians who were part of his clan had not abdicated. By cons, you could say they played the rather low "profile says specialist police investigations, Richard Dupuis.

In October 2010, his father, Nicolo, was killed at his home in front of his wife and daughter. The day of the funeral, we found a box on the front of the church.

It is an old custom that dates back to the origins of the Mafia. It was a message sent to Vito Rizzuto: "Are you ready to abdicate, or do you want us to continue the massacre?"

According to sources TVA Nouvelles, the package was sent from Woodbridge, Ontario. It is in this affluent suburb of Toronto, where the Board of Directors' Ndrangheta, the Calabrian mafia headquarters.

"It was two successful hair that Rizzuto was successful in 80: take control by eliminating the Calabrian clan," says Mr. Dupuis.

The response of the sponsor came shortly after his release from prison. In August, four senior members of street gangs are shot, including Chénier, Chief Red.

Since his return to Canada in October, nearly a dozen of his enemies have been eliminated, the Calabrian Joe Di Maulo, one of the most influential criminals Montreal.

To Ontario

More in Ontario does not dispute the authority of Rizzuto said Rob Lamberti, a journalist who covers the mafia Ontario for 30 years. According to him, he is back in power.

Vito Rizzuto has achieved the impossible with his personal aura, but his absence showed a lack of notes from the Sicilian clan. If Calabrian bow today is perhaps because they chose to wait before it disappears to regain control of Montreal.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Is the mob war indeed over? - 06/03/13 01:19 PM

Link to French-language article:

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/dossie...pose-sa-loi.php

Google translation:

Vito Rizzuto imposes its law

Daniel Renaud
La Presse
Published June 3 2013 5:00 am|Updated 6:50 pm

A year ago, nobody thought that Vito Rizzuto return to Montreal. Eight months after his return, his clan is once again the most powerful in the city. If he could succeed in this tour de force, it is because the organized crime situation was relatively calm during his reign and his arbiter has earned him the respect of the criminal underworld. The largest organization of the Mafia, who does not like that the headlamps are trained on her, vraisemblement needed it to end its bloodiest episode of the last 40 years in Montreal.

"If Vito returns to Montreal, it will pass," had told La Presse a police officer a year ago, almost to the day. Today, it is clear that the police, like most people, was royally wrong about the chances of returning the sponsor, after nine years in the Canadian and U.S. prisons.

"The police and criminals have made the same mistake: they never thought would Vito," said another, more recently, demonstrating the evolution of the situation.

Since January, La Presse has ceased to attach the qualifier ousted after the word to describe godfather Vito Rizzuto. If it has been successful tour de force to regain control of the city in a few months, because of the respect that he dedicated to the criminal underworld, and since he became president of Board of Directors held in Montreal somewhere in the 90s crime. At the time he headed the Mafia with an iron fist in a velvet glove, everything was relatively quiet. The settling of accounts in all their forms were part of the decor, but were further apart.

But after his arrest in January 2004, and more particularly his extradition to the United States two years later, "the blood flowed," as he himself had prophesied the RCMP officers who 'escort.

In fact, in just nine years between his arrest on 19 January 2004 and today, at least 40 murders, 18 attempted murders, kidnappings and eight two disappearances related to Italian organized crime occurred in and around Montreal, as a compilation by La Presse.

This is the bloodiest in the history of the Montreal Mafia episode, including the fall of Violi, there are more than 30 years.

Return

After his release in October, Vito Rizzuto was arrested in Toronto, to measure its support. Obviously, the great organization of the Mafia, who does not like that the headlamps are trained on it, either by violence or commissions of inquiry, needed him to end the bloodshed in Montreal.

Upon his return, the blood flowed more, but calm has returned for several weeks, a sign that clan has taken things in hand and others have had to rally, by choice or not. Police pressure that followed the arrest of two men after the murder of Gaëtan Gosselin, right arm kingpin Raynald Desjardins, probably slowed the enthusiasm to some, but sources have told us that Vito Rizzuto has launched an appeal for calm late March.

Since it would direct its affairs, Montreal or the Dominican Republic, and had even begun peace talks with his most bitter enemies. He even try to expand its influence in Sicily if we rely on an article in the Italian newspaper La Repubblica that he described as "the undisputed leader of the Canadian Cosa Nostra."

In Montreal, Vito Rizzuto is seen regularly on the golf course or in a restaurant downtown in the evening. Its outputs are discrete and this will be the case as his honor will not be washed, as the murders of members of his own family will not be avenged. It will take however long it takes.

We should not be surprised if, once this is done, at age 67, he left the center stage to the next generation.

Peace talks underway

Press has learned that discussions aimed at establishing peace took place about three weeks ago between representatives of the sponsor Vito Rizzuto and his former lieutenant became enemy, the guy Raynald Desjardins.

"There have been negotiations and now the clans are at the stage of reflection. Let's see if it will work, but it is certain that goes closer to peace than to war, "a source told us last week.

In recent months, contracts had been put on the head of family clans Desjardins and Giuseppe De Vito, another leader at war with the Sicilians. They lived holed or had left the area. However, The Press has learned that these individuals were told, in recent weeks, they had nothing to fear and that they could return to the city.

During the appearance of the 26 people arrested last week following the dismantling of a network of drug traffickers, the accused were defended by lawyers who represented enemy clans in recent years - another relaxing currently prevailing in the mafia.

According to the main theory of the police, Desjardins De Vito and other chieftains as Salvatore Montagna Arcuri and brothers have formed an alliance to lead the Mafia after the overthrow of the Sicilians in 2010. But since the release of Vito Rizzuto, last October, several members of their clans were murdered. Desjardins including lost his brother, the influential Joe Di Maulo, and his friend and confidant Gaetan Gosselin. One who held this role for Giuseppe De Vito Vincenzo Scuderi was killed in January.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Is the mob war indeed over? - 10/07/13 02:15 PM

According to the French-language article to which I've linked below, the war is over.

http://www.journaldequebec.com/2013/10/06/vito-rizzuto-bien-en-selle
Posted By: azguy

Re: Is the mob war indeed over? - 10/07/13 03:38 PM

How can we translate that, it looks like it was published today..?????

help, please...???
Posted By: mike68

Re: Is the mob war indeed over? - 10/07/13 06:16 PM

http://translate.google.com/

Quote:
A year after his return home after six years in a maximum security prison in Colorado, Vito Rizzuto has indeed taken the reins of the Montreal Mafia , a feat that few experts would have thought possible .

According to Pierre de Champlain, Montreal Mafia expert , since his return to the Montreal area , Vito Rizzuto was able to assert his authority and bring renewed "relative peace between the various factions " of organized crime.

This " return to power " does not, however, done without the bloodshed . After the murder of his son , Nick Jr., in December 2009 and his father Nicolo , less than a year later , Vito and its allies probably wanted to avenge their own.

Although the Rizzuto clan was weakened when the sponsor returned to Montreal , "there fringes that are loyal during the time of his absence ," said M. de Champlain.

With the help of his faithful allies , the sponsor has seen its list of enemies to thin while many heads have rolled in the months that followed his potential return.

This is particularly the case of Joseph Di Maulo , which would have betrayed the Rizzuto clan , when Vito was in prison. He was assassinated in Blainville, only a month after the return of the head of the Montreal Mafia .

Antonio Nicaso , another expert from the underworld , for its part, believes that " Rizzuto clan took control of the street, but since the Charbonneau commission revealed links between the mafia and politicians, it will not be easy to rebuild the system and all the links he had created . "

Nicaso also believes that the head of the Sicilian clan rather thirst for revenge and does not necessarily intend to reestablish the links . He believes that Rizzuto other enemies on his list.

Much longer?

Still, experts say it is difficult to predict how long the reign of Vito Rizzuto will last, since it is already 67 years old .

"Is that one can say that the Rizzuto clan will rise from the ashes ? That I 'm not sure as the son of Vito was murdered , "said Pierre de Champlain.

Antonio Nicaso does not believe the Calabrian , who are very powerful in Ontario who are rivals of the Sicilians , necessarily want to take control of Montreal , when Vito Rizzuto will hand .

"It depends on the ability of Rizzuto ensure the transfer of power ," he has just started.

The side of the Police Department of the City of Montreal , nobody could answer questions from QMI Agency during the weekend.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Is the mob war indeed over? - 10/07/13 06:23 PM

mike68:

Thanks for providing a Google Translate translation.

I've been on my mobile device all day, so copying and pasting a translation would have been cumbersome.

All:

Below is a link to the English counterpart to the French article. NB: Not a word-for-word translation. Both articles slighty differ in content from each other.

http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews/canada/archives/2013/10/20131007-130453.html
Posted By: pmac

Re: Is the mob war indeed over? - 10/07/13 08:16 PM

I don't think rizutto would be playing lots of golf with the sniper who killed his father on the loose. so im thinking the wars over and the sniper is dead. wonder what his standing with the bonanno's today is. I still think nyc played a role in this.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Is the mob war indeed over? - 10/07/13 08:41 PM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
mike68:

Thanks for providing a Google Translate translation.

I've been in my mobile device all day, so copying and pasting a translation would have been cumbersome.

All:

Below is a link to the English counterpart to the French article. NB: Not a word-for-word translation. Both articles slighty differ in content from each other.

http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews/canada/archives/2013/10/20131007-130453.html


Wow, so Rizzuto had Montagna whacked? Quite a different story compared to what we have been hearing.
Posted By: cdn_wiseguy

Re: Is the mob war indeed over? - 10/08/13 12:30 AM

It doesn't seem like Rizzuto ordering the hit on Montagna adds up. If it were Rizzuto's men that killed Montagna, then it would make sense. However, it was Desjardins and his guys that killed Montagna. It's pretty clear that Desjardins was on the opposing side of the Rizzuto clan and it was in retaliation for an attempted hit on Desjardins.... Don't get me wrong, I don't think Rizzuto was upset to see Montagna get whacked, but in my opinion it wasn't on his orders.
Posted By: LuanKuci

Re: Is the mob war indeed over? - 10/08/13 08:49 AM

yeah...seems strange that Rizzuto had Montagna killed.

Then again: Montagna did try to muscle in and maybe (maybe) replace Vito Rizzuto's role in the city.

That suspicion could have been enough to have someone like Rizzuto (a real planner) ok that hit. Regardless of Montagna's affiliations to NY and oversea.
Posted By: mike68

Re: Is the mob war indeed over? - 10/08/13 03:35 PM

I don't know if I would necessarily believe the New York Post, let alone a cellmate at a SuperMax prison. I don't see Rizzuto blabbing something about wanting to be boss of the world to someone in the can. But what do I know, never met the guy, never will.
Posted By: AntonioRotolo

Re: Is the mob war indeed over? - 10/08/13 06:53 PM

Originally Posted By: mike68
I don't know if I would necessarily believe the New York Post, let alone a cellmate at a SuperMax prison. I don't see Rizzuto blabbing something about wanting to be boss of the world to someone in the can. But what do I know, never met the guy, never will.

Eaxctly, plus the BS report last year once released that said Rizzuto was meeting with New York "underworld sources." I find it hard to believe. One big conspiracy theory I will believe though is that De Vito was murdered inside prison....Notice how prison authorities and police are keeping this reaaaaaal quiet. No press releases, nothing.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Is the mob war indeed over? - 10/08/13 10:52 PM

Yea I agree on De Vito.

I also don't think Rizzuto ordered a hit on Montagna, too risky from a U.S. prison!!

I definitely don't believe the inmate either, no way Rizzuto is that dumb. You don't make it that long at the top by being that dumb.
Posted By: AntonioRotolo

Re: Is the mob war indeed over? - 10/10/13 04:44 PM

Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
Yea I agree on De Vito.

I also don't think Rizzuto ordered a hit on Montagna, too risky from a U.S. prison!!

I definitely don't believe the inmate either, no way Rizzuto is that dumb. You don't make it that long at the top by being that dumb.

Naw I think the hit on Montagna was allllll Desjardins-Di Maulo.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Is the mob war indeed over? - 11/18/14 01:27 AM

Link:

http://natpo.st/1yO5ehS
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Is the mob war indeed over? - 11/18/14 04:25 AM

It suprises me how fast those murder trials start in Italy as opposed to Canada. It's not even a year since Fernandez was killed while the trial of the murder of Montagna, which is now three years ago, has not even started.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Is the mob war indeed over? - 11/18/14 04:12 PM

Wow no wonder he ended up dead. Spurning two calls to meet with Rizzuto? You're begging to be clipped.

Sonny some of these countries don't play! Canada/USA both are bad about delaying and bullshitting. It wouldn't surprise me if something else comes up with Desjardins and delays it even further.
Posted By: pmac

Re: Is the mob war indeed over? - 11/18/14 04:23 PM

pretty cool. think will find out soon who killed nick jr and started all this. I didn't even know you can visit cuba, shit there still having mafia summits there in the 21 century. wonder who the hitman was in mexico think vito farmed iit out to the cartel?
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Is the mob war indeed over? - 11/18/14 05:23 PM

Ask Tony Magi. There is a reason he is riding around in armored vehicles and wearing bullet proof vests. He at least knows who was behind it.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Is the mob war indeed over? - 11/18/14 06:03 PM

Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
Wow no wonder he ended up dead. Spurning two calls to meet with Rizzuto? You're begging to be clipped.


This guy was as stupid as he was tough.

Quote:
Sonny some of these countries don't play! Canada/USA both are bad about delaying and bullshitting. It wouldn't surprise me if something else comes up with Desjardins and delays it even further.


Wouldn't suprise me in the slightest. However, it's only three months away and delays are usually announced far ahead of time.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Is the mob war indeed over? - 12/28/14 10:54 PM

Mob vendetta spree expected to continue in new year

http://www.torontosun.com/2014/12/28/mob-vendetta-spree-expected-to-continue
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Is the mob war indeed over? - 12/29/14 06:38 PM

Lamberti always writes decent articles. His articles usually don't offer big revelations, but he always seems to be very accurate.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/26/15 01:03 AM

Reporters Éric Thibault and Félix Séguin have written an article, currently behind a Le Journal de Montréal paywall, suggesting that Francesco Arcadi and two others--all three imprisoned--may fight, upon their release, to claim what they believe to be their rightful place at the top of the Montreal Mafia hierarchy.

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2015/05/26/un-trone-dans-la-mire
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/26/15 01:31 AM

If most of us have guessed that Lorenzo Giordano and Francesco Del Balso also want a piece of the pie if not the whole pie, I think we've taken a fairly good guess.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/26/15 07:54 AM

The article is no longer behind a paywall.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/27/15 10:27 AM

Stefano Sollecito has cancer? And lol @ being him driving a white Lamborghini with gold rims almost everywhere he goes.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/27/15 04:48 PM

That was the first time I've read he has cancer. Sounds like things will keep going out there.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/01/15 04:57 PM

Not even the establishment of a mafia roundtable has led to a total cessation of hostilities.

Link to French-language article:

http://plus.lapresse.ca/screens/e6f1a76a-51ca-4b6b-96f9-be90d5bcb8e9%7Ch41Rg9KPvReb.html

Translation (using Google Translate):

A MOLOTOV COCKTAIL WAS THROWN INTO A "HOT SPOT" OF THE MAFIA
DANIEL RENAUD
LA PRESSE

Italian coffee considered by the police and the criminal underworld as a "hot spot" was the target of a Molotov cocktail in the night from Tuesday to Laval.

According to our information, the bar-restaurant Romcafé, located on Boulevard des Laurentides Vimont in the neighborhood, would be attended by individuals related to or close to the new leadership of the Montreal Mafia table set up in the death case Natural former Godfather, Vito Rizzuto, in December 2013.

Moreover, according to our sources, Vito Rizzuto would have gone to this place almost daily between his return to Montreal after his release from a US prison in October 2012, and his death.

A lieutenant of the Mafia, Tonino Callocchia, murdered in a bistro of Rivière-des-Prairies in fall 2014, have also been seen on numerous occasions in Romcafé during the same period.

"It's a message or a warning, and it is clear that it is people who are at this place, it is their place," believes one of our sources.

NO SUSPECT
For now, the police do not know where the attack is coming.

In recent months, the informants told us of tensions or disagreements that exist within the Mafia, but it is too early to conclude that they are the cause of the incident.

During his time at the bar-restaurant Romcafé this morning, La Presse noted the presence of certain individuals at the crestfallen who seemed nervous.

It was about 4 pm when suspects or have (are) broken the window of the establishment with a tool and threw a Molotov cocktail inside.

A fire broke out early, but the flames were quickly extinguished, causing damage valued at less than $ 10,000.

"Investigators Arson Laval police went to the scene and interviewed witnesses. The scene was appraised, photos and samples were taken by police forensic identification. The owner was met and, for the moment, there are no suspects and the mobile remains unknown, "says Sergeant Frederick John of the Laval police.

In recent months, a dozen Molotov cocktails were thrown at cafes, restaurants, shops or cars, Montreal and the North Shore. It is not clear if some of these incidents are connected.

Last year, criminals fires were started in two restaurants in Montreal known to be frequented by people linked to the Mafia, La Cantina and Cavalli.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/29/15 12:47 PM

A Molotov cocktail was thrown at the law offices of Loris Cavaliere.

Link to French-language article:

http://tvanouvelles.ca/lcn/infos/faitsdivers/archives/2015/09/20150929-055756.html
Posted By: TonyG

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/29/15 03:16 PM

Is there a coincidence that Pat Musitano got a Molotov cocktail a week ago?
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/29/15 03:22 PM

Whatever became of the speculation of Leonardo Rizzuto having a seat at the "round table"? He & his sister work in those law offices according to the article. Doesn't seem like it'd be linked to the Musitano situation, but anythings possible really.
Posted By: pmac

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/29/15 05:33 PM

What's up with fire bombs up there? Here in the states the courts systems doesn't look at arson soft. They'll give you big numbers and you do alot of time in hospital prisons cause your a fire bug and it puts alot of people in jeopardy. Alot of arson state cases have mando minis.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/30/15 12:21 AM

pmac it takes a good bit up there to get a big sentence. Due to the publication ban up there I don't even think we know for sure how many years Desjardins is getting for his guilty plea but it has to be not that bad you would think. It's like they are still stuck in the 60's up there in terms of laws against gangsters and that's the main reason I think we see the killings and firebombings.

This is interesting though because it has ramped up lately.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/30/15 01:01 PM

Apparently, Stefano Sollecito's assuming the godfather role may not be working out so well for him.

Link to French-language article:

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2015/09/30/funerailles-et-cocktails-molotov
Posted By: SonnyBlackstein

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/30/15 01:53 PM

Is that article avail in English please AM?
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/30/15 02:05 PM

^^^^
Not at the moment. The article may never be translated into English--if it is, the online-published article would show QMI Agency near or under the reporter's byline.

For now, you may want to click or tap on

Translation using Google Translate

I'm not always a fan of Google Translate, but it sometimes does get the job done.

Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/30/15 02:10 PM

Hmm, so Leonardo is considered a sort of authority figure in the Montreal Rizzuto clan. Always had an idea he'd get more involved in some capacity after the deaths of his brother and father.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/30/15 02:16 PM

The French-language item found at the link below may be of interest too.

http://tvanouvelles.ca/lcn/infos/faitsdivers/archives/2015/09/20150930-072510.html
Posted By: SonnyBlackstein

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/30/15 02:20 PM

My thanks AM.
Posted By: mike68

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/30/15 04:26 PM

So am I correct in interpreting that this may be a dispute between the mafia and the biker gangs that led to the molotov cocktail thrown into the law office and the murder of the young kid last week? Anything to do with the heavy hitters who are getting out of prison soon who may want to reclaim their territories (Del Balso etc.)?
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/31/15 04:04 PM

There has been another firebombing in Montreal, this time at a gym where Giuseppe Fetta appears to be an employee. Link to French-language article:

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...-a-la-mafia.php
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/31/15 08:22 PM

Looks like things might be heating back up. They must love torturing these guys who thought they were going to get away with what they done when Vito died. No matter who is running the show they are going to continue going after these guys until they are all dead.

Google translate is not always the best, but it helps:




The gym targeted by the attack, 6183 located at the rue Marivaux, appears on court documents as the workplace of Giuseppe Fetta, 36, arrested in the roundup important Clemenza led by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police Canada in June 2014 against three drug trafficking cells linked to the Mafia.

There is even written that it is the gym Fetta, but according to the Registrar of Companies, the 6183 Crossfit is the name of a nearby Roberto Bastone, one of the alleged leaders of one of the cell dismantled in the same police strike.

Fetta is charged with conspiracy, gangsterism and drug production in this case while Bastone, 43, faces charges of conspiracy, gangsterism, drug trafficking, importing narcotics, assault, kidnapping and extortion.

Bastone has no criminal history while Giuseppe Fetta was also arrested in 2006 in connection with the operation Colosseum and sentenced to a suspended sentence for possession of weapon.

At that time, Fetta was considered by police as part of the Lorenzo Giordano arms team, one of the captains of the leaders of the Montreal Mafia and sentenced covered after extensive investigation.

But according to police, subsequently Fetta would have ranked in the camp of the clan leaders who attempted to overthrow Rizzuto at the head of the Montreal Mafia in 2009 and 2010. He miraculously survived an attempted murder committed in December 2012, two months after the return to Montreal godfather Vito Rizzuto.

Quickly mastered

It was around 3 am this morning that 30 Montreal firefighters who came to control a fire in 6183 Crossfit gym, contacted the police to tell them that the front door of the business located at the corner of streets and Marivaux Prado was shattered and at least one incendiary device was thrown inside.

"There is some damage to nearby shops, but they are limited. We have no description of a suspect and the investigation was given to investigators Arson SPVM "describes Emran Abdullah, spokesman for the police.
Posted By: cdn_wiseguy

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/01/15 03:32 PM

I haven't been on here in a while, but figured with the upcoming release of Arcadi, Giordano and Del Baso, that things would heat up on Montreal.

After reading a few of the recent articles, I have a few questions for posters who follow Montreal closely.

1. I'm trying to understand the role of Tonino Callochia. It seemed like he was close to Roger Valiquette, who was close to Dejardins (which would put him against Rizzuto?). Yet on the other hand, he seemed to become more notable after Rizzuto regained influence. Where did he stand during the war against the Rizzutos? Is there a definitive answer as to what side had him killed and why?

2. One of the articles mentions "the book", which was in the hands of Arcadi's lieutenants Giordano and Del Baso, then went to Valiquette, now Stefano Sollecito. "The book" seems to have significance for the clan in power due to financial reasons. Where does Valiquette fit into this? Also I'm assuming that Paulo Renda would have been in control "the book", leading to his kidnapping/disappearance?
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/01/15 07:58 PM

Has Arcadi been released yet?
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/01/15 08:19 PM

As for Callochia, I think he was close to Di Maulo and that is what got him killed. I know he had that deal with Desjardins and that woman, but I think he went along with Di Maulo to survive after it seemed they were going to take over before Rizzuto came home. Could be wrong of course and I don't think I've seen what was truly the cause of his hit.
Posted By: cdn_wiseguy

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/02/15 01:28 PM

Not sure how accurate it was, but I read an article a couple of months ago that Arcadi, Del Baso and Giordano were to be released between December and February.
Posted By: ForgettableName

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/02/15 03:31 PM

There was another murder in Montreal recently, Domenico Iacono, a 56-year-old who was believed to owe the Mafia money was found dead in the trunk of a car., Because of this most recent killing i decided to update and post the 2008-Present Mafia Murders/Murder Attempts list.


Deaths in the Montreal Mafia War 2008 - Present

Domenico Iacono, 56, Found Dead in Trunk - November 2015
Marco Claudio Campellone, 24, Shot To Death - September 2015
Christopher DeSimone, 24, Shot to Death in GTA, Possibly Unrelated to Montreal Mafia War
Maria Voci, 47, Shot to Death in GTA, Possibly Unrelated to Montreal Mafia War - July 2015
Tonino Callocchia, 53, Shot to Death - December 2014
Ducarme Joseph, 46, Shot to Death - August 2014
Carmine Verduci, Shot to Death in GTA - April 2014
Roger Valiquette, 54, Shot to Death - December 2014
Moreno Gallo, 68, Shot to Death in Mexico - November 2013
Mathieu Vallée, 30, (Associate of Mohamed Awada) Shot to Death - October 2013
Patrick Rivet, 45, Shot to Death - September 2013
Salvatore (Sam) Calautti, 40, Shot to Death in GTA - July 2013
James Tusek, 35, Shot to Death in GTA - July 2013
Jamie Laramee, 37, (Associate of De Vito co-defendant Pietro
D'Adamoa) Shot to Death - July 2013
Cody Laramee, 25, Shot to Death - July 2013
Giuseppe (Ponytail) De Vito, 46, Died in Prison - July 2013
Fernando Pimentel, 36, Shot to Death in Italy - May 2013
Juan Ramon Fernandez, 56, Shot To Death in Italy - May 2013
Tonino Callocchia, 51, Shot and Wounded - February 2013
Vincenzo Scuderi, 49, Shot to Death – January 2013
Gaétan Gosselin, 69, Shot to Death – January 2013
Domenico Facchina, 37, Shot to Death – December 2012
Giuseppe Fetta, 33, Shot and Wounded - December 2012
Emilio Cordileone, 50, Shot to Death – December 2012
Tony Gensale, 43, Shot to Death - November 2012
Mohamed Awada, 47, Shot to Death - November 2012
Joe Di Maulo , 70, Shot to Death – November 2012
Pierre-Paul Fortier, 27, Shot to Death, Possibly Unrelated to Montreal Mafia War – October 2012
Frederick Murdock, 33, Shot to Death, Possibly Unrelated to Montreal Mafia War – October 2012
Vincent Pietrantonio, 53, Shot and Wounded, Possibly Unrelated to Montreal Mafia War - October 2012
Tommy Pietrantonio, 28, Shot and Wounded, Possibly Unrelated to Montreal Mafia War - October 2012
Domenico Arcuri Sr. , 79, Died Suspiciously – October 2012
Ben Zaid Moez Ben Ali, 34, Shot to Death, Possibly an Innocent Civilian – August 2012
Marco Lafratta, 24, Shot and Wounded - August 2012
Riccardo Ruffolo, 34, Shot to Death – August 2012
Chenier Dupuy, 37, Shot to Death, Possibly Unrelated to Montreal Mafia War – August 2012
Lamartine Paul Severe, 42, Shot to Death, Possibly Unrelated to Montreal Mafia War - August 2012
Walter Ricardo Gutierrez, 60, Shot to Death – July 2012
Giuseppe "Joe" Renda, 53, “Missing” – May 2012
Salvatore Silletta, 49, Shot To Death – March 2012
Giuseppe "Closure" Colapelle, 38, Shot To Death – March 2012
Steven Laporte, 39, Shot To Death – March 2012
Antonio (Tony Suzuki) Pietrantonio, 48, Shot and Wounded – December 2011
Salvatore "Sal the Ironworker" Montagna, 40, Shot to Death – November 2011
Matt "Dutch" Garner, 29, Burned to Death, Possibly Unrelated to Montreal Mafia War - November 2011
Einick Gitelman, 28, Burned to Death, Possibly Unrelated to Montreal Mafia War - November 2011
Lorenzo "Larry" Lopresti , 40, Shot To Death – October 2011
Raynald Desjardins, 60, Shot At – September 2011
Antonio Di Salvo, 44, Shot To Death – February 2011
Rita Biasini, 50, Shot At - February 2011
Nicolo Rizzuto, 86, Shot To Death – November 2010
Ennio Bruni, 36, Shot To Death – September 2010
Agostino Cun-trera, 66, Shot To Death – June 2010
Liborio Sciascia, 40, Shot To Death – June 2010
Paolo Renda, 70, “Missing” – May 2010
Ducarme Joseph, 43, Shot At In Suspected Dispute With Montreal Mafia– March 2010
Peter Christopoulos, 27, (Bodyguard of Ducarme Joseph), Shot To Death – March 2010
Nick Rizzuto Jr., 43, Shot To Death – December 2009
Fredrico Del Peschio , 59, Shot To Death - August 2009
Dany de Gregorio, 43, Shot and Wounded – June 2009
Sam Fasulo, 37, Shot To Death - January 2009
Mario (Skinny) Marabella, 40, “Missing” – December 2008
Tony Stocola, 40, Shot to Death - January 2008
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/02/15 06:54 PM

Originally Posted By: cdn_wiseguy
Not sure how accurate it was, but I read an article a couple of months ago that Arcadi, Del Baso and Giordano were to be released between December and February.


Thanks. It should get interesting when they get out for sure.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/19/15 01:52 AM

There was another arson last night in Montreal, this time at the Empire cafe on Jean-Talon. Damages were minimal. At least one Molotov cocktail was thrown.

The significance of the cafe is that it is one place the leaders of the so-called mafia roundtable have used for meetings, where Vito Rizzuto was often seen after his return to Montreal, and it was known as a site for cash envelopes pertaining to sports betting and loansharking.

Link to French-language article:

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...un-attentat.php

Link to translation (using Google Translate):

Translation
Posted By: pmac

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/19/15 02:39 AM

That thread never going to go dead every 3 months fire bombs.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/19/15 02:35 PM

A major law-enforcement operation this morning in Quebec has nabbed some important individuals, including Leonardo Rizzuto (Vito's son), Stefano Sollecito (presumed Montreal Mafia leader), Salvatore Cazzetta (head of the Quebec Hells Angels), Gregory Woolley (head of the Syndicates street gang), and Loris Cavaliere (lawyer who has represented many Montreal Mafia figures).

Link:

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...d-mafia-players
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/19/15 02:48 PM

WOW, they got Cazzetta on drugs, AGAIN?? And this all but confirms my belief, Leonardo was heavily involved in the ongoings of the Montreal syndicate after the death of his father. And Woolley going down too, this pretty much is what Nicaso alluded to at the end of the Business & Blood book, that this was the new scheme of things, names and everything. Wow...Wonder what this does for Arcadi and those guys. Wow.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/19/15 02:48 PM

Here's another link to an English-language article:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/quebec-raids-drugs-organized-crime-1.3325812

Excerpt:

Quebec police conduct major raids linked to drugs, organized crime
Operation targets 'supply and the distribution of drugs in Montreal'

CBC News Posted: Nov 19, 2015 7:15 AM ET Last Updated: Nov 19, 2015 9:40 AM ET

Quebec provincial police say they are conducting major raids this morning linked to drug trafficking and organized crime in the Montreal area.

Loris Cavaliere, a lawyer who has represented members of the Rizzuto crime family, is among those targeted in the raid, a source told CBC.

In all, Bilodeau says they expect to arrest about 40 people....
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/19/15 02:51 PM

Thanks for the links, anti.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/19/15 02:53 PM

I think Daniel Renaud was the first journalist to break the story about this latest police operation, his story being published at 6:49 am EST. He has since updated the article.

Link:

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...me-organise.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/19/15 02:57 PM

Here's a link to another French-language article:

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2015/11...ion-de-montreal

The headline below says it all.

Les têtes dirigeantes des Hells, de la mafia et des gangs de rue arrêtées dans une vaste rafle policière
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/19/15 03:01 PM

The French-language item to which I've linked below has profiles of four of the key people arrested.

http://www.journaldequebec.com/2015/11/19/qui-sont-les-4-principaux-prevenus
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/19/15 03:03 PM

Here's another link to a French-language article about the operation:


http://ici.radio-canada.ca/regions/montr...-montreal.shtml
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/19/15 03:06 PM

And here's one more:

http://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2015/11/19/vaste-operation-policiere-contre-le-crime-organise
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/19/15 03:11 PM

Here's a link to an English-language article:

http://globalnews.ca/news/2349542/police-raids-across-montreal-target-organized-crime/
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/19/15 03:38 PM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
I think Daniel Renaud was the first journalist to break the story about this latest police operation, his story being published at 6:49 am EST. He has since updated the article.

Link:

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...me-organise.php


In another update to Renaud's article, it has been revealed that Mom Boucher, the former head of the Hells Angels Quebec, was arrested in his prison cell this morning.

The reason? Suspicion that he participated in a plot to murder Raynald Desjardins, who of course is also in jail.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/19/15 07:10 PM

Paul Cherry has more details arising from today's law-enforcement operation dubbed "Project MAGOT and MASTIFF" ("opération MAGOT et MASTIFF" in French).

Leonardo Rizzuto seems to be identified as a co-leader of the Montreal Mafia. Mom Boucher and his daughter appear to have been in communication with Syndicates leader Gregory Woolley, a one-time bodyguard for Boucher, about the plot to kill Desjardins.

Link to Cherry's article:

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...d-mafia-players

Link to a chart published by the Sûreté du Québec (SQ):

http://www.sq.gouv.qc.ca/actualites/2015/2015-11-19_001_magot.pdf
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/19/15 07:17 PM

Holy crap, I knew it. Never imagined him being this deeply involved but wow. This seems to be a big bust. I know it's still early Anti, and nothing is clear or certain yet, but would you rank this bust, from what you know, alongside Operation COLISEE?


Judging from the recent article posted, it seems like with the arrest of Cavaliere, at least from what that article is assuming, that they may have had a wiretap in his office and these guys got caught up in a Stanfa-esque investigation. I mean where else would they get information aside from top informants, that Mom Boucher was involved in the plot, along with the mafia to murder Desjardins in prison? Wiretaps, there are other outlets, I suppose. But I'm just going with what I think is the most obvious....This is getting interesting.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/19/15 07:21 PM

Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
Holy crap, I knew it. Never imagined him being this deeply involved but wow. This seems to be a big bust. I know it's still early Anti, and nothing is clear or certain yet, but would you rank this bust, from what you know, alongside Operation COLISEE?


Let's wait and see how much evidence was amassed and what the quality of it is.

Link to another English-language article:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/quebec-raids-drugs-organized-crime-1.3325812
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/19/15 07:47 PM

Here are links to additional English-language articles:

http://www.torontosun.com/2015/11/19/arr...nd-street-gangs

https://news.vice.com/article/cops-decap...in-one-big-bust

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/montreal-police-raids-2015-organized-crimes-1.3325855

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/nati...rticle27358700/
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/19/15 07:56 PM

I officially eat my words Sinatra about Leonardo and you was right. Thanks again anti for keeping us updated.

Wow, Leonardo went way back in time to try and kill Raynald. I figured he took the plea to stay behind bars and to think he was safe, but obviously not. I imagine if the word is out someone will be ready to shank his ass.

I also think this proves that it is VERY plausible that the Rizzuto's were behind the prison poisoning of De Vito as well.
Posted By: pmac

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/19/15 08:55 PM

so what charges is vito son chrged with? the plot to kill ray d.
Posted By: pmac

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/19/15 08:57 PM

just read a article by vice that guy mom the hells angle gets released from prison in 2022 shit the laws up there are so laxed. he would be on death row down here.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/19/15 08:59 PM

No pmac, Mom Boucher will never get out. He's serving life now.

Yes Leonardo was charged with conspiracy to murder, drug conspiracy and probably money laundering and gangsterism. Too early to know what kind of case they have though.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/19/15 10:55 PM

Yea, I definitely think the Rizzuto's were behind De Vito's death. Even before this, I believed that. I'm waiting to see if there's any news on wiretaps, because if there is, I'd bet money that a lot of them come from the lawyers office, which could mean that the stuff on those tapes can write a book. lol

And Dix, lol, I really didn't mean to brag, man, it's just nice to be right sometimes. lol
Posted By: Tony_Pro

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/20/15 12:46 AM

Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
Yea, I definitely think the Rizzuto's were behind De Vito's death. Even before this, I believed that. I'm waiting to see if there's any news on wiretaps, because if there is, I'd bet money that a lot of them come from the lawyers office, which could mean that the stuff on those tapes can write a book. lol

And Dix, lol, I really didn't mean to brag, man, it's just nice to be right sometimes. lol


Do they have attorney-client priviledge in Canada like we do in the states? If they were meeting thinking they were in the clear and the government is going to somehow get that waved on a anti-mafia measure, well damn things are going to get wild.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/20/15 02:29 AM

Originally Posted By: Tony_Pro
Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
Yea, I definitely think the Rizzuto's were behind De Vito's death. Even before this, I believed that. I'm waiting to see if there's any news on wiretaps, because if there is, I'd bet money that a lot of them come from the lawyers office, which could mean that the stuff on those tapes can write a book. lol

And Dix, lol, I really didn't mean to brag, man, it's just nice to be right sometimes. lol


Do they have attorney-client priviledge in Canada like we do in the states? If they were meeting thinking they were in the clear and the government is going to somehow get that waved on a anti-mafia measure, well damn things are going to get wild.



And article posted in this thread suggests that they may have been what happened. That they met under the assumption of the "attorney-client" priviledge thing.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/20/15 06:14 PM

Okay, new updates:

- This investigation was started in January 2013, a month after Vito Rizzuto died.

- Both Leonardo & Stefano are said by law enforcement to be the ones who took over the family after Vito died.

- Leonardo Rizzuto & Stefano Sollecito are alleged to have been the suppliers of narcotics to the Hells Angels and the other street gangs in Montreal.

- Gregory Wooley is alleged to be by law enforcement, as Nicaso always said, the link between the Montreal Mafia & The Hells Angels, as well as the street gangs.

- Cazzetta is accused and charged with distilling the illegal proceeds and collecting street taxes for the milieu.

- As I suspected yesterday, Lloris Cavaliere's arrest is in relation to him allowing his law office to be the safe haven of this triumvirate of Organized Crime. His office was used as a meeting spot to plan and plot criminal acts, which he actively participated in. Cavaliere is also suspected of being a long time member of the Rizzuto Family.


Mannnn, if it turns out they had that place tapped...


Oh, and I have yet to learn of Leonardo's or Stefano's or the Montreal Mafia period, being involved in the Desjardin's murder plot. Thats not to say they weren't involved, but none of the articles have mentioned that yet. An article by the National Post had an article and it stated that Mom Boucher, through an female messenger, plotted Desjardins along with Gregory Wooley. Messages were exchanged through the female, from Boucher, who then left the prison visits, back to the streets of Montreal and delivered said messages to Wooley. In the articles terms, Wooley then "executed" those messages. That could mean anything from using his own people and telling no one outside of those involved, or he could've recruited the help of the Montreal Mafia. I suspect more about that will be revealed later on, obviously.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/20/15 07:59 PM

Sinatra you have every right to brag lol As for De Vito I agree, once I heard it was poisoning I thought Vito had something to do with it. I think this kind of confirms it as I imagine Boucher has a lot of sway in prison.

You're right in that Leonardo/Stefano is not listed in the murder plot so far but I seriously doubt Boucher would go after Desjardins unless he had their backing. We have to remember the HA's and the Rizzuto's have always had a history together ever since the war between them and the Rock Machine was stopped. I just can't see them going after Desjardins "alone". It's also been thought that them and the gangs have been hitters for the Rizzuto's as well so it's plausible.

Sinatra have you ever seen the Rizzuto tapes? Montreal Gazette has them online where Vito and Leonardo was on tape talking but it wasn't anything incriminating though. Surely they had Cavaliere's office tapped.

As for lawyer/client privilege, yes they have it in Canada. I think that is the main reason Leonardo became a lawyer to get that right and to keep the RCMP off of them. I know police can tap a lawyer's office, but I think they have to prove they are not meeting for a consult or something. I've seen it done in the states before but I vaguely remember how it was done.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/20/15 10:10 PM

Dixie, they can only wire the lawyers office if they know that they can prove that criminal acts are being conspired within the place. I saw this mentioned in the Stanfa book, but basically they would've had to have had a previous wiretap somewhere else which proved to them that Cavaliere's law office was being used in that manner, only then can they wire the place up. That's if it's like our lawyer/client privilege law here in the states.

You are certainly right about Leonardo/Stefano's possible involvement in the plot to murder Desjardins. I've only really learned that Boucher was supposed to be persona non grata with the Hell's. So if that's true, which I don't really know now since the reportings of his involvement with Wooley. But if it's true, he would've needed some extra muscle, the Rizzuto clan could've supplied that. They're involvement is clearly possible and I wouldn't doubt it at all.

And I think I've heard those tapes. Are one of them of Vito talking to some guy about his car being stolen and him telling the guy he got the car back in another call?
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/20/15 11:17 PM

Yea the Stanfa case is where I remember it from. Thanks to reminding me. I'm pretty sure their law is almost the same to ours, we will see for sure.

I think the HA's put up a public face that Boucher is not involved but like you said with him and Wooley talking he definitely still has some standing on the street.

Yep you've heard the tapes then. The one you are talking about I forget who it was, but someone stole his Escalade and he called Vito to get it back and of course Vito got it back.....lol. Don't blame the guy
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/21/15 02:00 AM

Link to Éric Thibault's article "Déjà des aspirants pour mener la mafia et les Hells":

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2015/11/20/deja-des-aspirants-pour-mener-la-mafia-et-les-hells

He speculates about who are seen as successors to those who were arrested in the latest law-enforcement operations. Sources tell him that Francesco Arcadi and Lorenzo Giordano, who are both still in jail, are seen as potential leaders of the Montreal Mafia.
Posted By: BlackFamily

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/21/15 03:21 AM

@ SinatraClub

Great posting on the update. Where does the 67 Gang fits in the picture? After their leader got killed its rarely any update on them.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/21/15 05:37 PM

I still say the jury is still out on whether Frank Arcadi is killed or not. I just don't see Rizzuto/Sollecito giving up power to Arcadi after his disastrous run as boss the first go around. Plus, does Arcadi show up thinking he's the man?

Still many questions up there and not enough answers right now.
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/21/15 06:14 PM

Arcadi is so arrogant that he will come out thinking he is the man. That has never changed he also thought he was the man.

They should place him as boss when he comes out and allow him to be the fall guy while they really run it behind the scenes, he is so into the power he would go for it. And from what I heard Arcadi is not the sharpest tool in the shed.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/22/15 07:00 PM

I'm not sure everyone would follow suit though, that's the biggest question. Many will remember what things were like under him when Vito was away. So it will be interesting for sure.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/23/15 04:39 AM

Indeed, Dixie. According to Antonio Nicaso, he had lost some trust among the Sicilian bunch because of his Calabrian origin and being too chummy at times with the guys from Ontario & Toronto. Of course this is all speculation, but after seeing much of what Nicaso once wrote in his book and articles actually play out this last past week or so, it's interesting to think about and to see how this situation plays out. The only thing is, who will be around from the younger administration that was just locked up, that will have the proper backing to go against Arcadi & possibly Giordano. One interesting name that hasn't popped up in these sweeps yet, and we have to find out if he will be at all, is Nicola Spagnolo. Alleged by other reporters to have been the third head of leadership at the supposed management table.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/03/15 03:51 PM

Lorenzo Giordano is going to be released in several days.

Link to French-language article:

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...afia-libere.php
Posted By: mike68

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/03/15 05:31 PM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
Lorenzo Giordano is going to be released in several days.

Link to French-language article:

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...afia-libere.php


Interesting, I wonder who took out the contract on him in 2011?
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/03/15 06:22 PM

He will still be on tight restrictions and be in a halfway house so he's not fully out and ready to rub elbows just yet though.
Posted By: cdn_wiseguy

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/05/15 12:40 AM

Update on the earlier arrests in montreal.

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...rict-conditions
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/10/15 03:30 PM

Molotov-cocktail attacks on two establishments in Montreal overnight.

Links to French-language articles:

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...ils-molotov.php

http://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2015/12/10/montreal-deux-commerces-vises-par-des-engins-incendiaires
Posted By: cdn_wiseguy

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/10/15 04:27 PM

When I finished reading the story about the Molotov cocktails, I clicked on a link that was said to be posted 4 hours ago.

My French is just mediocre, and google translate wasn't the greatest. But it looks as though the story suggests that the arrest of Sollecito and Leonardo Rizzuto saved their lives because of a threat on their lives.

Hopefully my translation wasn't way off, but if that's what the story implies, my guess would be that Arcadi, Del Baso and Giardano are laying ground work for their return.

http://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2015/12/10/les-tetes-de-rizzuto-et-sollecito-mises-a-prix
Posted By: cdn_wiseguy

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/10/15 04:30 PM

And Lorenzo Giodano is out of jail.

http://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2015/12/09/un-membre-de-la-mafia-en-liberte

I think there will be a lot of action in the next few months with Arcadi and Del Baso soon to be released as well
Posted By: mike68

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/10/15 05:31 PM

Originally Posted By: cdn_wiseguy
When I finished reading the story about the Molotov cocktails, I clicked on a link that was said to be posted 4 hours ago.

My French is just mediocre, and google translate wasn't the greatest. But it looks as though the story suggests that the arrest of Sollecito and Leonardo Rizzuto saved their lives because of a threat on their lives.

Hopefully my translation wasn't way off, but if that's what the story implies, my guess would be that Arcadi, Del Baso and Giardano are laying ground work for their return.

http://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2015/12/10/les-tetes-de-rizzuto-et-sollecito-mises-a-prix


It seems to say that Sollecito was wearing an expensive watch that he himself had previously given to one of his soldiers (Campellone) after Campellone was whacked. I can see why that may not have gone over well.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/11/15 12:15 AM

Lol, article claims Sollecito & Leonardo lacked the seriousness of criminal affairs that they're fathers had.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/11/15 01:15 AM

"Vers la fin du clan Rizzuto à Montréal?"

http://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2015/12/10/un-regain-de-tension-a-prevoir-dans-la-mafia
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/11/15 02:15 AM

Didn't know Giordano was Calabrian. No wonder he was so close to Arcadi. Kind of interesting as it seems The Montreal Mob always it's Sicilian faction & Calabrian faction. And that Vito was indeed what held them together, and now that he's gone, the Calabrians may be taking over. It's like the Vic Cotroni & Paolo Violi murder scenario, but in reverse.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/11/15 03:33 PM

"L’attentat contre deux cafés italiens envoie un message"

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2015/12/10/lattentat-contre-deux-cafes-italiens-envoie-un-message
Posted By: SC

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/11/15 04:17 PM

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Posted By: pmac

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/11/15 10:58 PM

I think ray d sentencing is next week there should be a treasure trove of shit that comes out. But I know nothing about the laws up there so maybe it's kept sealed untill all 6 of the guys charged in his murder plead out.
Posted By: pmac

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/11/15 11:00 PM

One more thing. How organized is the montreal mob seems like there drug dealers with zero respect for lcn rules or so called rules. Killing people at there house in front of there wives. It's kinda cartel ish.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/12/15 07:20 PM

Link:

http://www.cjad.com/cjad-news-community/...-montreal-mafia

Bail hearing set for alleged new leaders of Montreal mafia
CJAD News
Posted on 12/12/2015 by Luciano Pipia, Richard Dagenais

Excerpt:

The alleged new leaders of the Montreal mafia have a bail hearing in the new year.

The hearing for Leonardo Rizzuto and Stefano Sollecito will take place over three days starting January 11th.

A publication ban is in effect until at least January 27th....
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/12/15 11:49 PM

Originally Posted By: cdn_wiseguy
When I finished reading the story about the Molotov cocktails, I clicked on a link that was said to be posted 4 hours ago.

My French is just mediocre, and google translate wasn't the greatest. But it looks as though the story suggests that the arrest of Sollecito and Leonardo Rizzuto saved their lives because of a threat on their lives.

Hopefully my translation wasn't way off, but if that's what the story implies, my guess would be that Arcadi, Del Baso and Giardano are laying ground work for their return.

http://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2015/12/10/les-tetes-de-rizzuto-et-sollecito-mises-a-prix


That is interesting. I wished they would have went on about "who" was supposed to kill them. I would assume Desjardins before I would Arcadi. But who knows at this point?
Posted By: cdn_wiseguy

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/13/15 03:05 AM

Ya I agree Dixie. It reminds me of 5 years ago when it was really hard to judge who was on what side.

In this case it's hard to say. On one hand, Arcadi was close to vito and helped run things when vito went to jail. Not to mention that he ran things with Rocco Sollecito. So it wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility that he works with the current leadership of Leonardo and Stefano Sollecito due to past connections and the fact that he, Giordano and Del Baso were still getting a cut of profits while in prison. On the other hand, he has made it known that he wants power. Maybe he wants all the power, and it was mentioned previously that he made frequent trips to Toronto which made the Sicilians uneasy. Maybe he was building alliances for this eventuality.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/13/15 07:54 PM

It does remind you of that. Who and what are attacking the Rizzuto's. Seems like another mob war of some kind is coming yet again. Against who? Nobody knows at this point.
Posted By: Homers77

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/13/15 08:47 PM

Does anybody have a list or chart of what the two sides would be ?

For instance - Leonardo and stefano have the following key lieutenants and 20 soldiers from this area of Montreal. They control the construction industry and have video poker machines.

Arcadi has the following key lieutenants and 30 soldiers from here. They control the drug routes and loansharking.

That was all made up but if someone has the real summary that would be very interesting!
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/14/15 05:02 PM

Originally Posted By: pmac
One more thing. How organized is the montreal mob seems like there drug dealers with zero respect for lcn rules or so called rules. Killing people at there house in front of there wives. It's kinda cartel ish.



They're more than just drug dealers, if killing people in front of their homes shows zero respect for LCN rules, then Montreal has never been a stickler for the rules. That much is evident by how they usurped their Bonanno superiors and started to be more of their own family. American LCN rules, they probably care little for, but they've always operated like and followed similar patterns to the Sicilian Mafia. And guys have been getting killed on their doorsteps for centuries out there in the Montreal Mob.


And I don't think Raynald Desjardin's is plotting any murders right now. I know he's capable, but I don't think it's him who'd be targeting Rizzuto & Sollecito. Desjardins has his own problems with the Hells Angels and guys loyal to Mom Boucher. I think the answer is the most obvious one. And in the one of those articles which mentions a supposed plot on Rizzuto & Sollecito, they clearly state that it comes from within, meaning, it's coming from within the Montreal Mafia, not from anyone else. And it clearly said that guys were unhappy with their leadership. I'd point more towards Arcadi, Giordano & Del Balso than I would Desjardins.
Posted By: cdn_wiseguy

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/14/15 07:13 PM

I'd love to see what the sides look like as well, but I think it would be a guess at best at this point. I don't think it's even a given that there are only two sides.

An important starting point might be to know where the major players stood during the original attempted overthrow of the Rizzuto's.
Posted By: cdn_wiseguy

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/14/15 07:23 PM

Sinatra club, I agree and would lean more towards the Arcadi group as well, but I wouldn't lean that way with much confidence. I think there's a lot of possibilities. To play devil's advocate, the article mentions "internal", but I don't think that necessarily excludes Desjardins. I would consider him/his group as internal as well. I'm not 100% sure, but was the old Cotroni group and DeVito's group not working with Desjardins during the initial attempted overthrow of the Rizzuto's? would they be strong enough and maybe make one last grab for power before Arcadi gets out? Probably not, but just throwing it out there.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/15/15 03:44 AM

I don't know about the activity of Desjardin's group since he's been in prison, but at most "internal" could mean within the overall milieu and not just the Montreal Mob. When you consider that, and the fact that Desjardin's & his camp have no recent reported links with the Montreal underworld, I don't see it coming from him.

And part of the recent bust involving Leonardo Rizzuto, Stefano Sollecito & Gregory Woollery has Mom Boucher making an request for Desjardins life. Both of those men are on the inside, personally, if I were Desjardins, I'd have more important, immediate things to worry about. But you never know.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/11/16 02:56 AM

Bail hearing set to start Monday for alleged Mafia leaders

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...-mafia-leaders/
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/11/16 07:15 PM

"Legal questions from defence jeopardize start of bail hearing for Leonardo Rizzuto and Stefano Sollecito"

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...efano-sollecito
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/13/16 01:15 AM

"Alleged Mafia leader Leonardo Rizzuto faces nine new criminal charges"

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...riminal-charges
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/13/16 02:12 AM

Man, Leonardo. He sure did have his hands dirty.
Posted By: slumpy

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/13/16 06:00 PM

All they confirmed of the nine were possession of cocaine and two unlicensed firearms, or am I missing something?
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/13/16 06:03 PM

Nah, you're not missing anything, that's all the article confirmed were those three charges.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/13/16 09:04 PM

He was in possession of coke? Surely he wasn't that dumb?
Posted By: slumpy

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/13/16 09:20 PM

That's what the article said, enough to be charged with possession, but not trafficking. If you're a drug addict, then it's probably worth the risk as far as he's concerned... Or he was just excessively unlucky to be caught while using casually.

Possession in Canada doesn't really carry much of a consequence anyway. I was once caught by police with a pocket full of acid and ludes and all they did to me was stick me in the drunk tank (I hadn't even gotten high yet) and confiscate my drugs. They cut me loose the next morning without so much as a stern talking to. But I was also, like, 17 at the time and not a mafia boss, so, there's that.

(I don't do any drugs these days save for the occasional joint)
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/13/16 11:01 PM

I wonder if that drug possession charge was to make him look bad. Especially when you hold the top position whereby you have to make sound decisions and how will the elder made guys view this; or am I old fashion?
Posted By: slumpy

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/14/16 12:22 AM

Hard to say, but it definitely doesn't make him look good.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/15/16 06:20 PM

According to Félix Séguin's most recent Le Journal de Montréal article, Sergio Piccirilli was informed last weekend by the Service de police de la Ville de Montréal (SPVM) that the Montreal Mafia has a murder contract out on him.

Here's the article link:

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2016/01/14/la-mafia-met-la-tete-dun-influent-motard-a-prix

Given Piccirilli and Salvatore Cazzetta's well-known friendship, the alliance of the Hells and mafia may be fragile at the moment--recall that Cazzetta is essentially the face of the Angels in the Montreal area if not all of Quebec.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/15/16 11:01 PM

Hmmm, that could be interesting.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/15/16 11:05 PM

Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
Hmmm, that could be interesting.


That's one word to describe the situation. :-)
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/19/16 11:36 PM

Link top Paul Cherry's latest article in the Montreal Gazette:

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...ume-next-month/

"Bail hearing for two alleged heads of the Mafia will resume next month"
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/13/16 01:25 AM

"Influential Montreal Mafia leader to be released soon"

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/influential-montreal-mafia-leader-to-be-released-soon
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/13/16 01:35 AM

Damn, three years in a halfway house. Jeez.
Posted By: cdn_wiseguy

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/24/16 02:04 PM

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...aine-in-arizona

I didn't realize Del Baso had a brother, but nabbed for drugs.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/24/16 09:30 PM

Damn, 62 keys? I don't think he will like his sentence here.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/01/16 04:36 PM

Lorenzo Giordano was shot at in the parking lot of the gym he frequents in Laval (north of Montreal).

Link:

"Un important lieutenant de la mafia montréalaise atteint par balles à Laval"

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...les-a-laval.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/01/16 05:07 PM

Some media outlets are reporting that Giordano succumbed to his injuries; however, his death has not been confirmed by the province's police, the Sûreté du Québec.
Posted By: mike68

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/01/16 05:34 PM

Hooooly sh$t!!!!

It is back on like a mother bleeper in Montreal. Was he one of the high ranking guys who just got out of jail? Where does/did he fit?
Posted By: pmac

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/01/16 05:39 PM

Who again was he in the scheme of things a rizzuto guy? I remember his name always coming up. I know there lcn but they function like cartel. All over drugs. I give it to some of the NY family's they keep there eyes on the legit shit. Unions. Trash and gambling. I no Vito started his inroads to the construction biz but his whole family was destroyed by drugs. There fighting Haitians street gangs bikers and other street guys. That's the complete opposite of organized crime. My last point I still think they were a satellite operation of the NYC family just really big and drugs did them in. I would guess every made guy that was connected to the bonanno family is dead today like wiped out.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/01/16 06:23 PM

^^^^
The Sûreté du Québec has confirmed Lorenzo Giordano's death.

See slide 15 of the file to which I've linked below--the slide shows how the RCMP viewed Giordano back in 2006.

https://www.ceic.gouv.qc.ca/fileadmin/Fichiers_client/centre_documentaire/Piece_10P-123.pdf
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/01/16 06:37 PM

Damnnnnn...Giordano just came home. If the words are true about Arcadi, Del Balso & him possibly being the ones who wanted back in on the leadership, then it seems as if Leonardo & Stefano still hold some rank on the outside.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/01/16 06:41 PM

Finally. An English-language article about Giordano's murder this morning:

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...our-multisports
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/01/16 06:49 PM

This is getting nuts. And people really find it hard to see why the Montreal Mafia is often compared to the Godfather and the Corleone Family.
Posted By: pmac

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/01/16 08:05 PM

You join the mob up there you have a life expectancy of 1 to 3 yrs on the street. I would pass join the bikers. I wonder of the last 50 murders we now a hand full were made guys in the bonanno family if it was from galante rustelli or Massino days. If these guys are inducted lcn. Cause that would just make the old saying a made guy untouchable because up there they don't give 2 shits. What could this guy have done he's been out of jail 2 months and was in prison I'm guessing 5 yrs before. And don't they have cameras. You shoot someone in any city in mass your likely on cam. And we have these shot spotters everywhere so a gunshot pops off the whole station rushing to the scence. Get with the technology Canada.
Posted By: GangstersInc

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/01/16 08:44 PM

Some more background on Giordano's violent yet rich past: http://gangstersinc.ning.com/profiles/blogs/another-mob-boss-whacked-in-montreal-mafia-gangland-hit
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/01/16 09:20 PM

Originally Posted By: pmac
You join the mob up there you have a life expectancy of 1 to 3 yrs on the street. I would pass join the bikers. I wonder of the last 50 murders we now a hand full were made guys in the bonanno family if it was from galante rustelli or Massino days. If these guys are inducted lcn. Cause that would just make the old saying a made guy untouchable because up there they don't give 2 shits. What could this guy have done he's been out of jail 2 months and was in prison I'm guessing 5 yrs before. And don't they have cameras. You shoot someone in any city in mass your likely on cam. And we have these shot spotters everywhere so a gunshot pops off the whole station rushing to the scence. Get with the technology Canada.


Not going to get into this again, but the Rizzutos aren't Bonannos, neither is any other current member of the Montreal Mafia. And you're being naive if you think that Montreal doesn't have cameras. If you read the English article it says that the gym had cameras and that the authorities closed the place off to observe them and question the witnesses. You're also off the mark in your last comment about the Rizzutos/Montreal Mob not being LCN because they focus too much on drugs and were in wars with biker gangs and street gangs and other drug cartels. For the most part they weren't. In the Rizzutos case, they're links to the drug cartels in South America and Sicily made them the suppliers of the drugs the bikers and street gangs in Montreal sold. The Rizzutos have always been heavily intertwined with the Hells Angels, to the point where Salvatore Gervasi, son of Rizzuto soldier (according to some sources) Paolo Gervasi, was selling drugs for a rival biker gang, the Rock Machine, drugs that didn't come from the HA or the Rizzuto connection, and he was killed for it after refusing to stop, after being asked by Rizzuto members under the request of the Hells Angels. Its what led Paolo Gervasi to back away from the Rizzuto camp. Most of the Rizzutos conflicts were internal, even in the case of the Blues and Ducarme Joseph, after Vito was in prison, they were most likely acting on the orders of Salvatore Montagna and Tony Magi.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/01/16 09:35 PM

Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
Originally Posted By: pmac
You join the mob up there you have a life expectancy of 1 to 3 yrs on the street. I would pass join the bikers. I wonder of the last 50 murders we now a hand full were made guys in the bonanno family if it was from galante rustelli or Massino days. If these guys are inducted lcn. Cause that would just make the old saying a made guy untouchable because up there they don't give 2 shits. What could this guy have done he's been out of jail 2 months and was in prison I'm guessing 5 yrs before. And don't they have cameras. You shoot someone in any city in mass your likely on cam. And we have these shot spotters everywhere so a gunshot pops off the whole station rushing to the scence. Get with the technology Canada.


Not going to get into this again,


Followed by getting into it again. whistle
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/01/16 09:55 PM

Nah, just stating what myself and other members have repeatedly backed up through multiple sources. And I wasn't even speaking on the past, I'm talking about today. I dont think theres a question that today, those links are severed. But argue with yourself if you like, my man.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/01/16 10:01 PM

Wow, this is a pretty substantial hit up there.

I think this explains if the Arcadi faction is in good standing or not....
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/01/16 10:16 PM

The biggest question I think is, is this from the Leonardo Rizzuto/Stefano Sollecito camp, and a message to Arcadi. Or are there others we have yet to hear about who also want control. I don't see it being from Ontario, although that's also possible. And I don't see it being any sort of remnant of the Desjardins/De Vito group, when Desjardins really has his own problems to worry about right now.

This also puts my theory of the Calabrians regaining control into a tailspin.
Posted By: pmac

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/01/16 10:48 PM

I'm sarcastic if you read my posts no big deal. But if these guys are lcn why are they killing each other. Where's all the rules. The whole thing in USA is you can't kill a made guy with out a OK from the boss and the rule kinda what's kept the thing going till present day. That's all. Very interesting.
Posted By: pmac

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/01/16 10:49 PM

Whose the boss oking all the hits.
Posted By: SonnyBlackstein

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/01/16 10:53 PM

Fascinating stuff.

They just don't give a fuck in Montreal.

Thanks to Antimafia and Gangsterinc for their contributions.
Posted By: TheRedZone

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/01/16 11:15 PM

Originally Posted By: pmac
I'm sarcastic if you read my posts no big deal. But if these guys are lcn why are they killing each other. Where's all the rules. The whole thing in USA is you can't kill a made guy with out a OK from the boss and the rule kinda what's kept the thing going till present day. That's all. Very interesting.


There's not really anymore LCN, add to that the fact that Montreal, especially since the Rizzuto reign, wasn't a carbon copy of the American LCN and hardly followed their cardinal rules/rites. I'm sure someone is more or less overseeing, driving or approving the hits that we see against the remnants of the Rizzuto regime, but it's more of an italian clique wiping out the remaining competitors of old(I say competitor, but in Giordano's case, revenge makes more sense maybe).
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/01/16 11:16 PM

Originally Posted By: pmac
I'm sarcastic if you read my posts no big deal. But if these guys are lcn why are they killing each other. Where's all the rules. The whole thing in USA is you can't kill a made guy with out a OK from the boss and the rule kinda what's kept the thing going till present day. That's all. Very interesting.


They've been killing each other since the 60's. Its really no different from the Sicilian Mafia, who also kill each other, yet they are the original LCN. Montreal has never been comparable to NY. Philly was known for killing each other, Nicky Scarfo pretty much never got an okay from NY to kill other made men, outside of the Chickie Narducci hit. And he killed numerous made guys.
Posted By: mightyhealthy

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/01/16 11:22 PM

Scarfo was a boss. You don't need permission from NY to kill guys in your own family.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/01/16 11:29 PM

And by all accounts Leonardo Rizzuto is a boss, although loosely right now. Vito Rizzuto was a boss. Nick Rizzuto Sr. Was a boss. Thats my point, like Scarfo, they needed no permission to kill within their own borgata. Not only that but Sicilian blood line mattered more to them than rules called upon by NY. And I really don't think those guys cared all that much about what NY had to say post Cotroni. I'm still waiting for an answer as to who gave a French associate, Desjardins, the "okay", to kill a Bonanno acting boss.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/01/16 11:46 PM

Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
Nah, just stating what myself and other members have repeatedly backed up through multiple sources. And I wasn't even speaking on the past, I'm talking about today. I dont think theres a question that today, those links are severed. But argue with yourself if you like, my man.


I'm not arguing, you are. I was simply pointing out your contradiction. And your sources are taken out of context, misinterpret or pulled out of your ass.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/01/16 11:47 PM

According to only you.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/02/16 12:01 AM

Anyway, Arcadi's crew has undoubtedly taken a big hit with the arrest of Girolamo Del Balso like a week ago and this murder. His chances at power aren't looking very good right now.
Posted By: pmac

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/02/16 02:55 AM

So is this anything like the Colombo war in the 90tys where you had persico side holding on to the top from prison and the rest of the family backing a new boss on the street? A family split in 2?
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/02/16 03:49 AM

Eh, not really. Somewhat, but not really, as no one knows at this point how much control Leo Rizzuto & Stefano Sollecito actually exert on the street right now. And Arcadi & Co were just released from prison and are in halfway houses. But the Canadian authorities claimed project MAGOT & MASTIF and the arrests of co-bosses Leonardo Rizzuto & Stefano Sollecito, saved their lives as a hit was placed on them from within the Montreal Mafia. Personally, I thought that news strangely coincided with the Calabrian factions (Arcadi, Frank Del Balso & Giordano's) release from prison. So in my personal opinion, I'd have placed them behind the contract on Rizzuto & Sollecitos lives. The difference between the Colombo war is once again, this is all about drugs. Project MASTIF & MAGOT indictments imply that the Rizzuto clan, at least at the time of the arrests, still controlled a large portion of the Montreal drug trade, at least as far as cocaine goes, as opposed to the heroin, Leonardo's father and grandfather became big traffickers of. A RCMP chart released at the time showed that they were at the top of the Montreal underworld, the drugs flowed through the Rizzuto clan, Leonardo Rizzuto & Stefano Sollecito being the facilitators, and throughout the rest of the Montreal Mafia. Then onto the Hells Angels, and then passed down to the street gangs, mainly those under Gregory Woolley's control. It seems those within the Montreal Mafia wanted the spots of Rizzuto & Sollecito. Again, the timing of everything, I'd say it was the old Arcadi crew wanting what they feel they were owed. Its also interesting, to me, that this hit on Giordano came merely a week or so after Girolamo Del Balso, Franceso Del Balso's brother and presumably Giordano ally, is arrested seemingly transporting an massive amount of cocaine. Which may go to show that the Arcadi group were making in-roads into the perhaps formerly Rizzuto controlled drug/cocaine market. A week after his arrest, and Giordano is killed? In my opinion, and definitely dont take my word for it, the Rizzuto/Sollecito group or those loyal to them, let the Arcadi group pull on their own string until they bit themselves on the foot and revealed themselves for what they were, and then struck back.


Sounds real Mario Puzo-esque, but looking at the past of the Montreal Mafia, it seems to be a blueprint for an actual mafia novel.
Posted By: ForgettableName

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/03/16 04:43 AM

Sinatra makes some very interesting points, especially regarding the very intriguing timing of Giorlamo Del Balso being busted to Giordano being killed. While I agree with the idea that Arcadi, Del Balso and Giordano have historically been very close and are likely right back into the thick of things since their release from prison, I wonder if perhaps instead of this being a killing attributed to the Rizzuto crime group, it may instead be an inside hit.

Consider this, Del Balso was only released from prison a few weeks ago, only a week or so after that his brother is arrested in America with a quantity that at a minimum will end in well over a decade in prison or not unrealistically life in prison. Perhaps, and this is my own theory, the three aforementioned had just started their new inroads towards mafia supremacy or at least success and in one of their first ventures used one of their most trusted associates (blood is thicker then water after all) to transport a large quantity of cocaine for their first fresh from prison criminal escapade. But it went terribly wrong. Now Del Balso is under the most extreme of scrutiny, and his brother may be never again be a free man. So perhaps Del Balso, being something of a known hot head, decides to have Giordano killed.

Why? Well, for one, it could be pre-emptive, while Del Balso is not known for a soft touch, Giordano is truly a classic psycho gangster, and Giordano could realize that Del Balso would choose to align himself with family and bring the others down, so instead of waiting for Giordano to make a move, Del Balso makes the move first, and now he can rest a bit easier. The other idea is that perhaps Del Balso had no part in his brothers actions and instead it was all the idea of Giordano and Giordano alone to use Girolamo Del Balso for this drug run. Del Balso, in conjuncture with Arcadi possibly, realizes Giordano is a complete fool, ruined his brothers life and is again a loose canon and again, have him whacked.

Just an idea I was batting around, in the end, like most murders up north, we may truly never know.
Posted By: Wilson101

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/03/16 02:25 PM

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...our-multisports
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/03/16 03:32 PM

Canadian authorities believe Giordano may have been the one behind the threat on Salvatore Cazzetta's life. As the Project MAGOT & Project MASTIF chart showed, Cazzetta was the money man for the Rizzuto/Sollecito facilitated drug group. This is really beginning to look like it may have come from them. I'm not going to say its for sure, but considering everything, to me it's becoming more likely.


And a recently released article says that both Leonardo & Stefano are likely going to be released on bail.


Looks like the tables may have really turned...For their safety, Francesco Arcadi and Francesco Del Balso have been ordered back to prison.


http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...78_section_POS1
Posted By: cdn_wiseguy

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/03/16 04:41 PM

Interesting article Ciment,

One thing that surprised me was the mention that liborio [BadWord] was supporting the arcadi group.

As for the giordano murder, I don't think it had anything to do with an internal hit by arcadi/del baso or Toronto. That is a far fetched suggestion. The arcadi group made their warnings before they were released from prison and there was a hit out on rizzuto and sollecito, so to me it looks like rizzuto/sollecito struck first.
Posted By: mike68

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/03/16 05:44 PM

If I'm a mobster up there who has made some good money in his life, I'm getting the hell out of Dodge. Nobody is safe up there. Find another place to live and at the worst, check back in a few years to see what the landscape is. This is ridiculous. Pull a Little Carmine Lupertazzi on the Sopranos and say 'I'm out'.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/03/16 08:03 PM

There's one thing you seem to neglect or not really understand,especially with the bolded part. Calabrese or Calabrian in Montreal doesn't always means 'Ndrangheta. I don't know if you know that or not, and that's a common misconception other forum members have made when reading articles like that. There IS a Calabrian branch of the Montreal Mafia. Francesco Arcadi is considered to be a part of that Calabrian branch. And Calabrians have been a part of the Montreal Mob since it's inception. Its just like the Controni days, which I mentioned on here before, when Cotroni and Violi ran things, the Calabrese was the power in the Montreal Mob, and it had little to do with Ontario or Toronto 'Ndrangheta.

When Violi died and Cotroni stepped back, the Sicilians (The Rizzutos and their brethren) were the power. It was suspected with the threat on Leonardo & Stefanos arrest and their incarceration, that Arcadi, Del Balso & Giordano were behind the threat, they were due to be released and reportedly wanted their leadership positions back. Perhaps thats what Costa meant when he said the Calabrians were running things. And I'm inclined to believe it was, when you look at the arrest of Girolamo.

According to Project MAGOT & MASTIF, the threats on Desjardins life, were coming from Mom Boucher and Gregory Wooley, not Calabrians. I already mentioned whom I suspect to be behind those of Leonardo & Stefano. And with Arcadi & Del Balso back in prison and Giordano dead, that isnt to say, the Rizzutos or Sicilians are back in power, but that there may be more of a counsel leadership, who simply feel more comfortable with Leonardo & Stefano keeping their positions, or the counsel setting, than seeing Arcadi and his group take control.
Posted By: Giacomo_Vacari

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/03/16 09:00 PM

It looks pretty much like Arcadi vs Manno for the leadership postion. In other words it is Calabrians vs. Sicilians. The Rizzuto fraction is backed up by the Bonanno family (Salvatore Catalano), the Cotroni is backed up by the Gambino family (Frank Cali, but stopped when he become more scrutinized by LE, unknown who took over as a conduit) Buffalo was neutral before Dante passed away in 14', don't know who took over that crew, but if is Bruno, then they will support sicilians, if it was Giovanni, then they will support the calabrians. Not talking about Pops crew (which is in support of the Cotroni fraction, due to the Violi family) but different crew in Canada, which Buffalo has two crews up there.
Posted By: cdn_wiseguy

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/03/16 09:18 PM

I might be wrong, but I don't see the backing of any u.s. families as playing any role in this.
Posted By: mightyhealthy

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/03/16 09:29 PM

Buffalo? The fuck? You're dreaming.
Posted By: mightyhealthy

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/03/16 09:30 PM

Why are people so invested in the idea that American families play a part in Montreal? Does it fulfill some kind of criminal conspiracy fantasy?

Buffalo isn't even a viable family anymore. Now they are backing Canadian factions?
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/03/16 10:33 PM

Like someone said and I believe are correct, the Rizzuto faction always had a Calabrian faction. I'm not sure if Arcadi ran that side until Di Maulo was killed when Vito was released. I don't think Di Maulo was that active anymore mind you, but I think more would have easily followed him before they would Arcadi.

I do find it crazy Liborio is with him unless it was a set up? If it was N.Y. I could believe something like that, but most of the time in Montreal family followed family no matter what.

Too bad Del Balso and Arcadi were reported back to prison because things were just now getting interesting again. I imagine things get quiet for now until they get out or go back to a halfway house.
Posted By: pmac

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/03/16 10:34 PM

My thing with the Americans is when the montealiens go to Florida or Cali they hang out with there friends all lcn. Anyways so that article kinda screwed up translated like my writing. Says Vito inducted a bunch of guys into there family before he died. Probably his kid the lawyer who a few years ago the board said was totally legit but he got his button and went strait Escobar/scarfo ordering hits. The crazy thing no one ever gets caught doing these hits. Its amazing all them screw ups got caught when they killed sal the ironman. That was clearly rookies. And the guy who tried to do a drive by hit on a jet ski that could be a first in north america.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/03/16 11:57 PM

I was basically the only person on the forums who said Leonardo wasn't %100 percent legit nor still doing his legal lawyer thing. Because the articles and investigations weren't supporting it. Guys said I was crazy and didnt know any better, funny how that turned out. Not only that, before Vito died, various authors and retired law enforcement claimed Vito used to have Leonardo actually sit in on select meetings, and him being a lawyer, he was always in tune with aspects of his families business, none of this just happened out of the blue. And why do you assume these guys necessarily travel to Florida or California, when they, especially the Sicilians have or had investments like Cuba and the DR, where Vito normally vacationed at? These guys vacation in places like Mexico, not necessarily US vacation spots. So they really don't have to associate with US mobsters.


And I really doubt there's any US family involvement in this, especially Buffalo. And why Catalano, what's his position in the current Bonanno infrastructure? Last I heard he doesn't even have a crew, he hasn't been mentioned in any cases recently, or reports or anything. Where would he fit in with the current Cammarano Jr. line of order? And we have documented evidence that the Gambinos are involved with the Calabrians in Toronto & Ontario, yet absolutely none for them being involved with Montreal, like at all. Its possible NY is involved, but I don't find it likely, I think thats a reach.


And Montreal is notorious for guys doing hits and not being caught. Was the killer of Nicolo Jr & Sr ever brought to justice? Nope. What about Joe Di Maulo? Nope. What about Paolo Renda? Nope. Joe Renda? Nope. Rocco Violi? Nope. Paolo Gervasi? Nope. Ducarme Joseph? Nope. You have two hits in which guys got caught, and thats because in both cases those involved were using blackberries. And those who shot at Desjardins (the jet ski attempt youre referring to) werent even caught by the law, I believe. Just the bodyguard is sitting in jail now because they found out he lied to the responding officers about not firing his gun, yet shot himself, WITH his gun, to make it appear that the assassins shot him while he was defenseless. Believe it or not, there are places in the 21st century that are adept at this organized drug crime/mafia thing. They just arent in America.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/04/16 12:19 AM

Originally Posted By: mightyhealthy
Why are people so invested in the idea that American families play a part in Montreal? Does it fulfill some kind of criminal conspiracy fantasy?

Buffalo isn't even a viable family anymore. Now they are backing Canadian factions?


Believe it or not, from what I've seen from members on here and on the other forums, some guys really have a huge problem with the idea of these guys sustaining their own Crime Family/Organization.
Posted By: SonnyBlackstein

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/04/16 01:56 AM

Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
Originally Posted By: mightyhealthy
Why are people so invested in the idea that American families play a part in Montreal? Does it fulfill some kind of criminal conspiracy fantasy?

Buffalo isn't even a viable family anymore. Now they are backing Canadian factions?


Believe it or not, from what I've seen from members on here and on the other forums, so guys really have a huge problem with these guys sustaining their own Crime Family/Organization.


+1000

Buffalo? What a joke.

US 'influence' of candian LCN is fucking non existent. Let alone Buffalo, jeezus.
Posted By: pmac

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/04/16 02:22 AM

Ya Vito did vacation in Cuba. Growing up in the USA you were taught no one goes to Cuba or Fidel kills you or puts you in jail forever. He's a commie. I think there finaly letting baseball players come in go. I thought Fidel hated mobsters surprised Vito would go there. In my head its like north Korea that idiot student who stole the flag and is crying and begging on TV. Just wouldn't go to dom. Rep. Heard to many bad stories from people who went for the vacay. Won't comment no more on this subject till next week and some over guy gets whackd. Goodnight
Posted By: BlackFamily

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/04/16 02:56 AM

Sinatraclub,

The firebombing was/were tied to the Haitians gang. With all the focus on the Rizzutos, Im quite curious on the involvement of Greg Wooley's Syndicate and the conflict with the Reds. I read a few articles about the Blues owning some bars or businesses downtown. Speaking on nobody arrested for the murders of a few Rizzuto's members which possibly could of been the Reds.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/04/16 03:17 AM

Rizzutos were aligned with Reds. And when Rizzuto was released from prison and reestablishing himself in the underworld, the Reds was the gang he sat down with and opted to operate with. The Blues reportedly were behind the firebombings and the extortions of Rizzuto owned cafes. Montagna and Tony Magi used them as sort of an extended army of soldiers. They also may have been behind the attempt on Desjardins, at the behest of Montagna, reportedly. Ducarme Joseph was murdered and the Blues were purposely left out of the new alliance set up by Vito post his release from prison. Because it's the Blues and Ducarme Joseph and his Haitians whom are suspected to have been behind the murder of Vito's son, Nick Jr, either on the orders of Tony Magi, or Sal Montagna or both, not The Reds. This again, according to reports and authors like Antonio Nicaso. Gregory Woollery is a full patched member of the Hells Angels now, however he left one of his immediate subordinates in charge of the Reds gangs, whom was also indicted and charged in the Project MAGOT & MASTIF investigations, I forget his name right now though. And Woolley appparently still had immediate contact to the Reds.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/04/16 03:21 AM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
In addition, Giordano allegedly threatened an attempt on the life of at least two other criminals, including one close to the Hells Angels, to settle old conflicts dating back a decade.


They are referring to Sergio Piccirilli.
Posted By: BlackFamily

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/04/16 04:30 AM

What of the independent gangs? Also, Is Greg Woolley trying to consolidate the groups into The Syndicate or an umbrella ? How long you think this could continue before another shift in power happens?
Posted By: IvyLeague

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/04/16 05:33 AM

Originally Posted By: SinatraClub


And Montreal is notorious for guys doing hits and not being caught. Was the killer of Nicolo Jr & Sr ever brought to justice? Nope. What about Joe Di Maulo? Nope. What about Paolo Renda? Nope. Joe Renda? Nope. Rocco Violi? Nope. Paolo Gervasi? Nope. Ducarme Joseph? Nope. You have two hits in which guys got caught, and thats because in both cases those involved were using blackberries. And those who shot at Desjardins (the jet ski attempt youre referring to) werent even caught by the law, I believe. Just the bodyguard is sitting in jail now because they found out he lied to the responding officers about not firing his gun, yet shot himself, WITH his gun, to make it appear that the assassins shot him while he was defenseless. Believe it or not, there are places in the 21st century that are adept at this organized drug crime/mafia thing. They just arent in America.


I think that says more about the relative reach, resources, and competence of American law enforcement compared to Canada and elsewhere in the world than anything.
Posted By: SonnyBlackstein

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/04/16 07:59 AM

USA! USA! USA! USA!


Yawn.
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/04/16 10:59 AM

It's a bizarre thing, really...
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/04/16 11:02 AM

I think a lot of guys have only read about the NY mob, and they think the mafia STARTED THERE, and still revolves around NY, when it's always revolved around profit opportunity and power.....
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/04/16 11:04 AM

@Black Family

Unless Whooley gets his own connect to the Mexicans, he would have to do what the Hell Angels did;


Wage a street war for control of distribution in the streets....
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/04/16 11:16 AM

I honestly read somewhere Catalano went back to Italy....



Also, his power was the Sicilian drug connects, that's dead. I've suspected for awhile that the Rizzutos might be THE STRONGEST Sicilian drug connect left, this is why the Sicilians felt they had to deal with the Spanish guy, Fernandez....
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/04/16 01:05 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
Firstly,Thank you for your Montreal mafia history lesson 101 which I already know.
Secondly, your the one that neglects and does not understand not me.
Thirdly, you are making up things.Costa was not refering to the Montreal Calabrians.Read and do your research before you write.







Lol, why'd you just switch to this hostile dialect all of a sudden? #1. Giuseppe Costa wasn't from Montreal, he was from Toronto. #2. I assumed you were referring to Montreal since you mentioned your theory that this a coup by Toronto 'Ndranghesti, which is somewhat unlikely at this point. But the point still stands, Calabrian in Montreal, does not mean 'Ndrangheta nor 'Ndrangheta involvement. Guys like Arcadi and Giordano have ALWAYS had relationships with 'Ndranghesti from Ontario and Toronto, and still, a 'Ndrangheta takeover of Montreal Mafia rackets never really happened. Costa was right in the aspect that the 'Ndrangheta is the power in Canada now, I've said that on this forum before, so I don't know what I would need to research on that note. They've also become the most dominant organization in Italy as well, but you don't hear about them moving into Sicily and surrounding areas and taking over Sicilian Mafia rackets, this is somewhat the same situation. Even in the case of Joe Di Maulo, Sal Montagna & Desjardins. These guys didnt accomplish what they did on their own, it was mostly an inside job, but they had some help from Ontario & Toronto gangsters, maybe the same gangsters who aligned themselves with the Rizzutos when Vito was in power. Feeling Vito and the Rizzutos were history, they sided with whom it appeared were the new power, in order to continue the business relationships they had already had, not to takeover. Those guys became history, you dont think those same men then decided to do business with this "table" of sorts or with the co-bosses of Leonardo & Sollecito. Theres really been no evidence of a coup by 'Ndrangheta to try to take over Montreal from the Mafia that's already there. There's still little evidence of it now. Thats all I'm saying.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/04/16 04:59 PM

Originally Posted By: CabriniGreen
I think a lot of guys have only read about the NY mob, and they think the mafia STARTED THERE, and still revolves around NY, when it's always revolved around profit opportunity and power.....


They read about New York and Montreal and know that the history of the two is intertwined. They look at it from a different angle than the ones who are obsessed about this "Sixth Family".

That being said, I believe that the Bonannos washed their hands of Montreal after the Montagna affair. The city has turned into a hornet's nest. I think that the link with the Bonannos died with Rizzuto.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/04/16 07:33 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
I am not the one being hostile. Your the one that starts off telling people they do not understand and come across like you know it all. Maybe if you engage in dialogue rather than critizing people you may be taken more serious.
There has been lately more journalists out there theorizing the Toronto angle mendling in Montrea's affairs. Costa in the article mentioned Canada. As far as I know Quebec hasn't separated yet. So it includes Montreal and Toronto. You dismiss journalists of the Journal de Montreal,La Presee and testimony from a turncoat in Calabria who by the way had a brother who was killed in Toronto and is well knowledged of what is going on in Canada.
I have no problems about you reaching a conclusion other than mine, I will respect that. What I ask is that you respect other people opinions as well.


I've only seen one article that puts forth the Toronto theory. And not for nothing, but Laurentian who is somewhat educated on the subject and I believe may be an author himself, found it somewhat unlikely as well. There just isn't enough out there to support it right now. I never once said "nah you're wrong", just that I personally found it unlikely, because as of right now, there isn't anything to support the theory. I haven't seen one Lapresse article that suggest s Toronto 'Ndrangheta takeover since Giordanos shooting. They mentioned Vittorio Mirarchi being a part of the Calabrian cell of the Montreal Mafia, and having strong support from Ontario. So because of that, he shouldnt be excluded from the "next up" conversation. But him becoming boss is unlikely in itself, hes still in prison waiting to face trial for the Sal Montagna murder, and is a part of Desjardins group, which isnt very popular these days amongst the Montreal Underworld. Nor have I seen an article from Journal De Montreal implying it either. And again, I agree with Costa, the Sicilians are no longer the predominant OC group in Canada, nor is the Montreal Mafia for that matter. Its arguably the 'Ndrangheta, however that doesn't mean Costa was saying that the 'Ndrangheta control Montreal.
Posted By: Giacomo_Vacari

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/04/16 08:12 PM

The name of the game is money. Perhaps I should have said the remains of the Buffalo Canadian faction. Vito Rizzuto made a lot of connections and did quite a bit of joint venture to start pipelines with other groups and families. Frank Cotroni had done the same thing from the mid 1980s until his death. There is a lot of money to be made in Montreal, and Montreal mobsters who went to prisons in the US, during the 1980s to the early 2000s, have been getting released since everything has been happening in Montreal since the late 2000s. These guys are forgotten by the journalists and Mafia leaders in Montreal, they have made connections while state side or a broad, with other gangs and crime families. Vito was strong cause a lot of incarcerated guy were still loyal to Vito, and passed a long information and joint ventures to their Captains.

I say different about Bonanno, Gambino, and Buffalo roles in Montreal. Salvatore Catalano is said by FBI agents, again by FBI agents that he had returned to Sicily, but that is not what immigration is saying. Salvatore goes back to Carmine Galante, and has a lot of strong connections that are overlooked in Montreal. Frank Cali of the Gambino family had a lot of connections before the bodies started to drop in Montreal, and still does, but this was before he was bumped up to Underboss, plus he maintains contact with Toronto. Finale there is Dante of Buffalo family who I at first thought had retired in 2006, but was still running the crew through his son, while he was meeting with other Canadian mafia leaders, notable those in Montreal. Dante family had and has more connections than Dom Italiano/Joe P crew.
Posted By: SonnyBlackstein

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/04/16 08:18 PM

Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
the Sicilians are no longer the predominant OC group in Canada, nor is the Montreal Mafia for that matter. Its arguably the 'Ndrangheta, however that doesn't mean Costa was saying that the 'Ndrangheta control Montreal.


Think this is a pretty accurate summation.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/04/16 09:12 PM

Salvatore Catalano hasnt been mentioned through testimony, or prosecutors, or informants or FBI affidavits in ANY Bonanno cases in years. The FBI has a pretty good idea of the Bonanno hierarchy, and they've had such knowledge which accounted for multiple changes of guard, and Catalano has not been mentioned in any of them. There's been no mention in any trials of him having a crew or even being involved in any illegal activity within the last two decades, almost. I really don't think he has a hand in anything going on in Montreal, nor does he have enough current status, to "back" anyone. Just think about it, if he was active, his name wouldn't have come up by now in some investigations? Like at all? Any? Fat Tony Rabito was older and released the same year, and his name has come up multiple times in relation to Bonanno activity, just recently last year when he was being visited by Pallazolo, when Pallazolo was attempting to enlist some support against Cammarano Jr. Its been quiet for Catalano. Which is a rarity when it comes to Bonanno Family mob guys.


As said before , there's been no proof of Frank Cali's involvement with Montreal, Ontario? Yes. But none for Montreal. The last known Gambino/Montreal ties, I believe were Joe LoPresti, Nick Sr & Sciascia and the drug traffickers of the Gotti crew.


And Buffalo, is defunct. I'd be willing to consider all this information, if actual evidences, circumstantial or whatever are put forward, though.
Posted By: BlackFamily

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/04/16 10:56 PM

I'm not speaking on Woolley, but the Bo-Gars or the next largest set under the Reds. The leader or high ranking member was killed ( the one who slap Woolley 2x) and a few others killed could seek revenge later on.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/05/16 01:53 AM

There is literally one paragraph in that article that alludes to some Toronto mobsters being arrested in Montreal over the holidays. The translation seems to be questioning if they were there to protect some of their interests after the arrests of Rizzuto, Sollecito, Cazzetta, Cavaliere and Wooley. But then gives the impression that even Montreal criminals think the crime in Montreal is from others outside of Toronto.


Leonardo Rizzuto & Stefano Sollecito ordered to remain behind bars until the end of their court proceedings, after failing to convince a judge that they'll refrain from criminal activity if released on bail. Stefano didnt physically attend latest bail hearing, he was present via video. Said to be suffering bad from cancer, apparently looks worse than he has before. Article below...



Leonardo Rizzuto and Stefano Sollecito, who were detained on 19 November, the day of the operation Magot who beheaded Montreal organized crime, failed to convince the judge to restore their liberty pending further proceedings.

Leonardo Rizzuto, 46, youngest son of the late Mafia boss Vito Rizzuto and Stefano Sollecito, 48, son of Rocco Sollecito, a former lieutenant of Vito Rizzuto, are accused of gangsterism and conspiracy to traffic cocaine. Rizzuto also faces counts of possession of a weapon and possession of cocaine.

After presiding ten-day survey released spaced during the months of January and February, the Daniel Bédard judge of the Court of Québec concluded that the two men have failed to shift the burden of proof , to ensure attendance at proceedings and to demonstrate that their release would not represent a danger to the public or would not affect the confidence of that public in the administration of justice.

A publication ban prevents us from disclosing the details of the evidence and testimony heard during the investigation. For health reasons, Stefano Sollecito has not moved to the courthouse in Montreal. He followed the hearing from his prison in videoconferencing. Visibly suffering, he got up several times during the hour and a quarter that Bédard judge has to make a very substantial judgment.

The magistrate took the opportunity to deplore the length of the survey release, "which is far from a procedure that wants expeditiously", he has said.

The Magot-Mastif operation was conducted by the Joint Regional squad of the Sûreté du Québec, in collaboration with the Royal Canadian Mounted Police and the SPVM. It resulted in the arrest of forty individuals whose criminal lawyer Loris Cavaliere, the leading member of the Hells Angels, Salvatore Cazzetta and gang leader Gregory Woolley.

A member of the Hells Angels Nomads Ontario, Carlos Fernandez, and members of the Reds, club supporter of the Hells Angels were also arrested. Cazzetta and Fernandez have also failed in their attempt to obtain their freedom while Gregory Woolley has not requested it.

Loris Cavaliere was released under heavy conditions, including that of remaining at home round the clock seven days a week.

The procedures were postponed to 15 March.


http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...ent-detenus.php



English version of article, all credits to Laurentian for being the first to post these over on the Black Hand forum.



http://montrealgazette.com/news/judge-denies-bail-for-alleged-montreal-mafia-kingpins


A Quebec Court justice denied bail Friday to reputed Montreal Mafia bosses Leonardo Rizzuto and Stefano Sollecito.

The men have been behind bars since Nov. 19, when they were arrested and subsequently charged with cocaine trafficking and gangsterism.

Rizzuto, the 46-year-old son of the late Mafia boss Vito Rizzuto, also faces weapons and cocaine possession charges. He seemed unfazed by Justice Daniel Bédard’s ruling, nodding and smiling to a group of men in the front row of the courtroom after hearing the decision.

The 48-year-old Sollecito — Vito Rizzuto’s former lieutenant — appeared via video conference from a detention centre. Sollecito is battling cancer and could be heard writhing in pain several times during the proceedings.

Bédard presided over bail hearings for 10 days, hearing arguments from Crown prosecutors and defence attorneys before handing down his ruling. The defence’s arguments did not meet the burden of proof required to show their clients’ release wouldn’t present a danger to the public or undermine the public’s confidence in the judicial system.


The bail hearing came three days after Mafia member Lorenzo Giordano was shot to death Tuesday morning in a Laval parking lot. Giordano was part of an interim leadership committee that ran the Rizzuto clan in the early 2000s.

He’d been released from prison only months earlier after serving most of a 15-year sentence for gangsterism.

The execution of a former Rizzuto enforcer, according to Mafia experts, is indicative of a new period of instability within the mob. Since Vito Rizzuto died of cancer in 2013, there’s been a power vacuum in Montreal’s underworld, with rival factions vying for control of the city’s lucrative drug trade.

Rizzuto and Sollecito were rounded up along 44 others on Nov. 19 as part of the Sûreté du Québec’s Project Magot investigation. The raid dealt a serious blow to the Mafia, removing its leadership.

Defence attorney Loris Cavaliere, 61, was also scooped up in the raid, but has since been released on bail.

Police say the raid also hurt the Hells Angels and street gangs, according to police, who say they’ve established links between the three groups. The Montreal police and RCMP collaborated in the investigation, which began in January 2013.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/07/16 12:47 AM

The funeral-home visitation for Lorenzo Giordano will be at the Rizzuto-owned Complexe funéraire Loreto http://www.complexeloreto.com/avis-de-deces.php?action=view&id=2142
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/07/16 01:23 AM

Hmm,possible sign he was still a Rizzuto ally?


Actually, Anti, do you have any idea whom is the proprietor of the funeral home now, and how deep or strong is their current Rizzuto affiliation? I know its commonly said that the home is Rizzuto owned and I've always believed it was. But I wonder if they just cater to anyone willing to pay for service as opposed to having a specific alignment either way.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/07/16 03:18 PM

^^^^
It's not a question of rumours--the Registraire des entreprises in Quebec is a business registry for the province that allows you to search for corporate information for numbered companies.

Below is a link to an Evernote item I created on September 1, 2012:

https://www.evernote.com/shard/s229/sh/9...d5cdc90e856ad86

Below is a link to an Evernote item I created today from four separate Evernote notes also created today. That is, I merged the notes into one:

https://www.evernote.com/shard/s229/sh/5...6ccfb3affab1c94

Compare the earlier item from 2012 with the most recent one from today.

Freddy Ruscitti has long been listed in the corporate information for the business entities for the funeral homes owned by Rizzuto family members, going as far back as when the funeral home was still on Beaubien in St. Leonard (St-Léonard). I don't believe Ruscitti is either Sicilian or Calabrian, as the surname is distinctly from the Abruzzo region.

As to what Giordano's funeral-home visitation at the Loreto means, I don't know how to interpret such facts anymore. Frank Cotroni's visitation was there in 2004; the visitation for Giuseppe De Vito's murdered daughters was held there in 2009; and the visitation for De Vito himself was held there.

Posters may recall the kerfuffle when the imprisoned Raynald Desjardins requested and received a letter from Ruscitti shortly after Jos Di Maulo's death that stated the Di Maulo family had never asked for Di Maulo's visitation to be held at the Loreto, nor that the Loreto had refused the Di Maulos' desire for visitation to be held there. Writing in La Presse, David Santerre reported that the Di Maulo family's choice to have the visitation at the Magnus Poirier home was interpreted by some observers (of organized crime) as a reflection of tensions between the Rizzuto crime group and the deceased Di Maulo's associates. See http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...s-tensions.php.

Those in the Montreal area who are regular folk and happen to be paesani of the Rizzutos do not have a choice when making funeral arrangements in advance or upon the death of a relative--as far as the selection of the funeral home goes, the visitation has to be at the Loreto. End of story. I'm beginning to wonder, when the Rizzuto organization has held sway all these decades, whether there has been some similar underworld protocol for the funeral-home visitation with respect to Italian crime figures in, or associated with, the Montreal Mafia--regardless of tensions.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/07/16 08:00 PM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
^^^^
It's not a question of rumours--the Registraire des entreprises in Quebec is a business registry for the province that allows you to search for corporate information for numbered companies.

Below is a link to an Evernote item I created on September 1, 2012:

https://www.evernote.com/shard/s229/sh/9...d5cdc90e856ad86

Below is a link to an Evernote item I created today from four separate Evernote notes also created today. That is, I merged the notes into one:

https://www.evernote.com/shard/s229/sh/5...6ccfb3affab1c94

Compare the earlier item from 2012 with the most recent one from today.

Freddy Ruscitti has long been listed in the corporate information for the business entities for the funeral homes owned by Rizzuto family members, going as far back as when the funeral home was still on Beaubien in St. Leonard (St-Léonard). I don't believe Ruscitti is either Sicilian or Calabrian, as the surname is distinctly from the Abruzzo region.

As to what Giordano's funeral-home visitation at the Loreto means, I don't know how to interpret such facts anymore. Frank Cotroni's visitation was there in 2004; the visitation for Giuseppe De Vito's murdered daughters was held there in 2009; and the visitation for De Vito himself was held there.

Posters may recall the kerfuffle when the imprisoned Raynald Desjardins requested and received a letter from Ruscitti shortly after Jos Di Maulo's death that stated the Di Maulo family had never asked for Di Maulo's visitation to be held at the Loreto, nor that the Loreto had refused the Di Maulos' desire for visitation to be held there. Writing in La Presse, David Santerre reported that the Di Maulo family's choice to have the visitation at the Magnus Poirier home was interpreted by some observers (of organized crime) as a reflection of tensions between the Rizzuto crime group and the deceased Di Maulo's associates. See http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...s-tensions.php.

Those in the Montreal area who are regular folk and happen to be paesani of the Rizzutos do not have a choice when making funeral arrangements in advance or upon the death of a relative--as far as the selection of the funeral home goes, the visitation has to be at the Loreto. End of story. I'm beginning to wonder, when the Rizzuto organization has held sway all these decades, whether there has been some similar underworld protocol for the funeral-home visitation with respect to Italian crime figures in, or associated with, the Montreal Mafia--regardless of tensions.



Thats how I'm thinking as well.
Posted By: faffy444

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/07/16 08:21 PM

giacomo vacari
who is dante of the buffalo family ?
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/08/16 04:48 PM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
As to what Giordano's funeral-home visitation at the Loreto means, I don't know how to interpret such facts anymore. Frank Cotroni's visitation was there in 2004; the visitation for Giuseppe De Vito's murdered daughters was held there in 2009; and the visitation for De Vito himself was held there.


Lorenzo LoPresti's visitation was held there as well even though he had betrayed the Rizzutos by siding with Montagna.

And I wonder whether De Vito had any say over where his daughter's visitation would be held since he was hiding out in Toronto. Also, I remember that you stated that you found some evidence that De Vito and Vito Rizzuto had reconciliated before De Vito's death.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/08/16 09:43 PM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: antimafia
As to what Giordano's funeral-home visitation at the Loreto means, I don't know how to interpret such facts anymore. Frank Cotroni's visitation was there in 2004; the visitation for Giuseppe De Vito's murdered daughters was held there in 2009; and the visitation for De Vito himself was held there.


Lorenzo LoPresti's visitation was held there as well even though he had betrayed the Rizzutos by siding with Montagna.

And I wonder whether De Vito had any say over where his daughter's visitation would be held since he was hiding out in Toronto. Also, I remember that you stated that you found some evidence that De Vito and Vito Rizzuto had reconciliated before De Vito's death.


Lo Presti's visitation at the Loreto is yet another headscratcher. I didn't find Emilio Cordileone's visitation there to be puzzling except at first--I just think that a lot of the crime reporters and authors in Quebec have wrongly guessed, as we posters do all the time here and elsewhere, who in the Montreal Mafia was or is supposed to be aligned with whom.

When De Vito was on the lam, he did not seem to stay put in Toronto. I am fairly certain he was surveilled in Montreal during the close to four years he was on the run (from 2006 to 2010). For example, there are reports he made the effort to see his daughters once in a while. He also got his mistress in the Montreal area pregnant during that time period, but then again we don't know how much time she spent in Toronto. I agree with you about his very likely having little input into his daughters' funeral arrangements. Maybe he didn't have any input about his own.

I had speculated that Vito Rizzuto and De Vito (or De Vito's associates) had reconciled their differences after I reliably found out about De Vito's visitation having been held at the Loreto--I found out well afterward. But that isn't much evidence of a reconciliation; so I still have no idea why De Vito's visitation was at the Loreto.

Lo Presti's mother (Rosa Lumia) and Domenico Manno's wife (Carmela Lumia) are sisters--could that be the reason Lo Presti's visitation was held at the Loreto? I have no idea.

Tonino Callocchia was described in newspaper articles both as a possible successor to Rizzuto and as a member of the anti-Vito camp. Leonardo Rizzuto and Charlie Renda were seen at the funeral Mass for Callocchia, but the latter's visitation was not at the Loreto. Why not? Again, I have no idea.
Posted By: Giacomo_Vacari

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/08/16 10:07 PM

Dante Gasbarrini.
Posted By: faffy444

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/08/16 11:29 PM

Originally Posted By: Giacomo_Vacari
Dante Gasbarrini.


he died in 2014. do you now speak of his son perhaps ?
Posted By: Giacomo_Vacari

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/09/16 12:19 AM

Faffy44, look at my post on page 6.
Posted By: baldo

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/09/16 12:56 AM

I'm currently reading Business or Blood. I don't know if this has been answered before but why do the authors often fail to identify people by name in the book? They will say things like "a middle aged Montreal man flew to Ontario and met with so and so, etc" without naming him.

Another example was when they were talking about a certain middle aged man that was being shown respect around other mafia members, shocking the authorities. Could this have been Leonardo Rizzuto?
Posted By: mightyhealthy

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/09/16 01:00 AM

They could be concerned about possible Libel. Not sure what the Canadian rules are.
Posted By: pmac

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/09/16 02:01 AM

Ahit would you take a guess as to how much time rizzuto will get? 10 yrs 15yrs ect. The last guy who got whacked at the gym did half of his 15yr sentence that was for gambling. It seems rizzuto has a lot worse charges then that guy so he's probably looking at 20. Well I bet Vito didn't for see his family destroyed. Like everyone got murder or locked up that's not a mafia dinasty bad look.
Posted By: Giacomo_Vacari

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/09/16 02:38 AM

Leonardo will get out in 8 years. He has some good lawyers so maybe 5 years.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/09/16 04:24 AM

Originally Posted By: baldo
I'm currently reading Business or Blood. I don't know if this has been answered before but why do the authors often fail to identify people by name in the book? They will say things like "a middle aged Montreal man flew to Ontario and met with so and so, etc" without naming him.

Another example was when they were talking about a certain middle aged man that was being shown respect around other mafia members, shocking the authorities. Could this have been Leonardo Rizzuto?



That last part, I know what you're talking about. I believe they were referring to Leonardo. Not sure if this is 100% accurate, and I might have to look again, but I believe they said something a long the lines of "this person" was being taken to the Rizzuto hangout spots by Rocco Sollecito and was being introduced and being shown great respect by the longtime mafiosi. And I think they said "this person" had a strong familial tie to The Rizzutos and had no prior criminal record. I believe that's what it said, as I remember first reading that passage and thinking they were referring to Leonardo. And that was long before he was confirmed to be a co-boss. I think it was definitely Leonardo.
Posted By: TommyGambino

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/09/16 01:14 PM

Originally Posted By: Giacomo_Vacari
It looks pretty much like Arcadi vs Manno for the leadership postion. In other words it is Calabrians vs. Sicilians. The Rizzuto fraction is backed up by the Bonanno family (Salvatore Catalano), the Cotroni is backed up by the Gambino family (Frank Cali, but stopped when he become more scrutinized by LE, unknown who took over as a conduit) Buffalo was neutral before Dante passed away in 14', don't know who took over that crew, but if is Bruno, then they will support sicilians, if it was Giovanni, then they will support the calabrians. Not talking about Pops crew (which is in support of the Cotroni fraction, due to the Violi family) but different crew in Canada, which Buffalo has two crews up there.


lol Bullshit.
Posted By: baldo

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/09/16 01:34 PM

Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
Originally Posted By: baldo
I'm currently reading Business or Blood. I don't know if this has been answered before but why do the authors often fail to identify people by name in the book? They will say things like "a middle aged Montreal man flew to Ontario and met with so and so, etc" without naming him.

Another example was when they were talking about a certain middle aged man that was being shown respect around other mafia members, shocking the authorities. Could this have been Leonardo Rizzuto?



That last part, I know what you're talking about. I believe they were referring to Leonardo. Not sure if this is 100% accurate, and I might have to look again, but I believe they said something a long the lines of "this person" was being taken to the Rizzuto hangout spots by Rocco Sollecito and was being introduced and being shown great respect by the longtime mafiosi. And I think they said "this person" had a strong familial to The Rizzutos and had no prior criminal record. I believe that's what it said, as I remember first reading that passage and thinking they were referring to Leonardo. And that was long before he was confirmed to be a co-boss. I think it was definitely Leonardo.


Yup, that's the exact passage I was talking about. Reading this book, it's almost impossible to keep track of all the murders, who was on what side, etc.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/09/16 03:13 PM

Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
Originally Posted By: baldo
I'm currently reading Business or Blood. I don't know if this has been answered before but why do the authors often fail to identify people by name in the book? They will say things like "a middle aged Montreal man flew to Ontario and met with so and so, etc" without naming him.

Another example was when they were talking about a certain middle aged man that was being shown respect around other mafia members, shocking the authorities. Could this have been Leonardo Rizzuto?



That last part, I know what you're talking about. I believe they were referring to Leonardo. Not sure if this is 100% accurate, and I might have to look again, but I believe they said something a long the lines of "this person" was being taken to the Rizzuto hangout spots by Rocco Sollecito and was being introduced and being shown great respect by the longtime mafiosi. And I think they said "this person" had a strong familial to The Rizzutos and had no prior criminal record. I believe that's what it said, as I remember first reading that passage and thinking they were referring to Leonardo. And that was long before he was confirmed to be a co-boss. I think it was definitely Leonardo.


You may be right, but they also describe this person as a newcomer. Leonardo fits the description on everything but a newcomer.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/09/16 03:46 PM

They could've meant a newcomer to the criminal underworld. At least that's the way I interpreted it, I think Leonardo would fit that description as well. He was exposed to his fathers schemes and business ventures as a legal counsel I think, not as an actual participant. So I think that he would fit that as well. Thats just my theory though. And do you know of anyone whom, as they describe, would have a "strong familial tie" to the Rizzutos aside from Leonardo? I don't mean to make it sound so tongue in cheek, this is a legit question.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/09/16 05:42 PM

I was thinking Stefano Sollecito, but it's been a while since I read the book and don't remember the clean record part (not saying anyone is lying, I'm saying my memory sucks....lol).

Vito and Leonardo was under investigation before as I think both were on wiretaps. So he had some prior knowledge beforehand, but whether the whole "family" knew he was in on things or not who knows?

As for the Loreto stuff, I quit trying to figure that stuff out. It seemed out of the gate if you were not allowed to have your funeral there it meant you were out of favor but know it seems they will serve anyone, friend or foe.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/09/16 07:02 PM

Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
And do you know of anyone whom, as they describe, would have a "strong familial tie" to the Rizzutos aside from Leonardo?


I'm not sure whether those words are used to describe this person's relationship with Rizzuto. But I can't think of anyone else and you may very well be right.

Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
I was thinking Stefano Sollecito, but it's been a while since I read the book and don't remember the clean record part (not saying anyone is lying, I'm saying my memory sucks....lol)


Stefano was indicted in 2002 and served prison time.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/09/16 10:50 PM

I knew that, it was just the fact I didn't remember the clean record being in the sentence in the book. Wasn't it drugs that got him put up?
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/09/16 11:56 PM

Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
I knew that, it was just the fact I didn't remember the clean record being in the sentence in the book. Wasn't it drugs that got him put up?


I think it had something to do with a gambling enterprise or bookmaking in Ontario. He was indicted along with Joe Renda I believe.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/10/16 02:50 AM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
And do you know of anyone whom, as they describe, would have a "strong familial tie" to the Rizzutos aside from Leonardo?


I'm not sure whether those words are used to describe this person's relationship with Rizzuto. But I can't think of anyone else and you may very well be right.

Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
I was thinking Stefano Sollecito, but it's been a while since I read the book and don't remember the clean record part (not saying anyone is lying, I'm saying my memory sucks....lol)


Stefano was indicted in 2002 and served prison time.



You're right, I'm sorry. Here's the exact words from the passage:


"Police surveillance were startled in early 2014 to see Vito's last consigliere Rocco Sollecito making the rounds with a fresh face in the milieu. This man has a clean criminal record but enjoyed a tight, affectionate tie to Vito. Sollecito seemed bent on introducing him to everyone who was anyone in his world. As he made the rounds with Sollecito, the man carried himself with the utmost seriousness,as one might expect from the new boss of a major crime family."


Definitely sounds like they may have been describing a family member, like a son. And the police being startled part, may be in reference to them finding it very surprising that one like Leonardo were personally involving himself in his fathers criminal affairs.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/10/16 03:27 PM

And I was wrong about the word newcomer, fresh face differs a little bit. Now that I've read it along with the fact that Leonardo has been identified as leader I think they're most likely referring to him. Their description also corresponds with my theory that Leonardo oversees his family's interests while Stefano is in charge of the street operations. It's an interesting solution but I don't think it will last.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/10/16 05:42 PM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2016/03/08/funerailles-du-mafieux-lorenzo-giordano-1
Translation Journal de Montreal Félix Séguin
FÉLIX SÉGUIN
Tuesday, March 8, 2016 3:01 p.m.
Update Tuesday, March 8, 2016 3:05 p.m.
One of the last men of honor at the Montreal Mafia may have been killed because he wanted to keep to himself much of the income of Italian organized crime. Sources consulted by our Bureau of Investigation believe that the hypothesis holds up.
Shortly before his release, on December 8, Lorenzo Giordano had been assigned 25% of the revenue of the "Book" of the Mafia.
This famous book is actually a notebook in which the accounting of paris illegal activities of the Mafia is registered. Normally, the person who owns the book harvest millions of dollars per year.
The book been so coveted that many criminals who controlled part were, too, murdered.
The loan shark Roger Valiquette and Tonino Callochia gangster suffered the same fate as Lorenzo Giordano in 2013 and 2014.
Lorenzo calm
"The Italians wanted to buy peace with Lorenzo just before his release from prison," said a police source.
"By giving him part of the book, Stefano Sollecito [interim ex-mafia godfather] thought they could calm him," she continues.
The problem, according to our sources, is that the mafia in power seems to have forgotten that the boiling Lorenzo Giordano and his cronies (Francesco Arcadi and Francesco Del Balso) had 100% of the famous "Book" before being arrested after operation Coliseum in 2006 and not the 25% lean that we wanted to give them.
Upon his release from prison, Giordano who resided in a Sherbrooke Street halfway house would have undertaken to regain control of what he had lost.
"If I try to do you a favor by giving you a quarter of something you already owned, you'll tell me what?" Asks a source.
The following
Several observers of the Montreal underworld world believe that future decisions of Rocco Sollecito, a faithful ally of the former godfather Vito Rizzuto, will be crucial to the survival of the Sicilian clan.
Since the imprisonment of his son Stefano, the veteran would have taken a more active role in the daily operations of the Mafia.
DISCREET HOMAGE, BUT UNDER STRICT SURVEILLANCE
Members of the Montreal Mafia discreetly attended Tuesday's funeral Lorenzo Giordano, celebrated one day week to the day after he was murdered in his car outside a gym in Laval.
According to our sources, no criminal was interest too publicly exhibit at the funeral of one of the men who could lead the Montreal Mafia.
Indeed, the event was scrutinized closely by the police who are trying to determine what new alliances that is about to form organized crime in Montreal.
At least three unmarked vehicles also housed police officers taking pictures of these criminals and note in a notebook the names of those who are not.
The criminals tried to be discreet so that several went into hiding at the funeral Loreto.
Entrance through the garage
Lot, Mario Sollecito (Stefano Sollecito brother) and Nic Spagnolo (alleged member of the mafia table) entered the sly by the interior garage of the funeral complex, owned by the Rizzuto family.
In the past, the police gave much importance to the fact that Italian criminals are exposed or not living Loreto.
"The fact that a murder victim is exposed in Loreto could give us an indication that she had not been awarded by the Rizzuto clan. But things have changed is not so clear now, "said a source familiar with the anti-mafia fight.
" Dad "
At the end of the funeral, the body of 52 year old man was taken to the church of Mary Help of Rivieres-des-Prairies by a procession of ten cars, five limousines bearing flowers showers with the mentions "Zio" and "Papa".
No registration on bouquets seemed to suggest that they could come from prominent Sicilian families.
Posted By: pmac

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/10/16 06:28 PM

So the brother of the street boss whose in jail with cancer showed up to the wake. I mean that would mean his brother had nothing to do with the hit or he'd probably be attacked at the wake by the guys kids or brother no?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/10/16 07:59 PM

I think not. They are brazen enough to attend anyway but it's just an opinion. Will see where all this leads up to.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/10/16 08:15 PM

Originally Posted By: pmac
So the brother of the street boss whose in jail with cancer showed up to the wake. I mean that would mean his brother had nothing to do with the hit or he'd probably be attacked at the wake by the guys kids or brother no?


The wake was held at the Rizzuto owned Loreto funeral home, I believe, so it wouldn't be very surprising that Rizzuto affiliates would actually attend.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/29/16 04:46 AM

There was an attempt on the life of Nino De Bartolomeis.

Link to French-language article:

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...-a-la-mafia.php
Posted By: Giacomo_Vacari

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/29/16 06:06 AM

You beat me to it antimafia smile
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/29/16 09:22 PM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
There was an attempt on the life of Nino De Bartolomeis.

Link to French-language article:

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...-a-la-mafia.php


Here's a link to an English-language article:

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/man-shot-inside-home-in-riviere-des-prairies
Posted By: SonnyBlackstein

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/29/16 10:07 PM

Always appreciate your contributions AM.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/29/16 11:37 PM

One newspaper article mentions Nino de Bartolomeis got shot eight to nine times in the upper body & was rushed to a hospital where he was placed in an induced coma to treat his injuries.
Wonder if he is going to make it alive ?
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/30/16 12:39 AM

The English article says he's in stable condition...And he's got a nice nickname. Lol
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/01/16 01:39 PM

Francesco Del Balso is unhappy with the protection afforded by the medium-security penitentiary he has been in. My guess is that he finds it too confining. <----(see what I did there?)

In all seriousness, he wants to be released.

Link to French-language article:

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...-sa-liberte.php
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/01/16 04:31 PM

Should he get out of jail, it remains to see if he has enough muscle left to stay alive and mount an attack or will he get the same fate as his partner Giordano.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/01/16 09:07 PM

I think he'll end up like Giordano. Wonder if Arcadi ends up the same way?
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/04/16 06:47 PM

"Montreal Mafia: After brief lull, blood is being spilled again"

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...g-spilled-again
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/04/16 09:15 PM

Thanks again anti!
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/04/16 09:17 PM

I think even Montreal and Canada OC reporters are just as much in the dark as we are and are also theorizing. And I don't think their will ever be another full fledged leader of the Montreal Mafia, not a one person head anyway. I think, which I think was also proven in the MAGOT And MASTIF investigation, that the leader(s) will be two guys or more, like a council like the Genovese had. And I think untile we hear otherwise from Law Enforcement Leonardo & Stefano are those guys.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/04/16 09:35 PM

I agree on all of that Sinatra. We still don't know for sure who killed Giordano either. Is Arcadi going after Rizzuto/Sollecito? Is Rizztuo/Sollecito behind the murder attempt on Desjardins? If not, who is after them (since the RCMP claim someone had a hit on out on them)? We might not ever know. This seems to be the hardest family to crack period. No rats or nothing. So we might be guessing 10 years from now.
Posted By: BobbyPazzo

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/04/16 09:52 PM

Stating the obvious, these guys play for real. They make American cosa Nostra look silly. Straight shooters.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/04/16 10:00 PM

It was Montagna who was behind the attempt on Desjardins. Either him or Tony Magi, possibly both working in collusion, which I think is the most likely scenario. As for the recent death threats and plots on Desjardins, according to the multiple law enforcement agencies whom conducted Project MAGOT & MASTIF, Mom Boucher was orchestrating that with the help of his daughter and Gregory Wooley.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/05/16 10:22 PM

That's what I was talking about, the most recent "attempt". I agree it was easily Montagna on the first attempt.

BUT what has me is did Rizzuto/Sollecito go to Mom or did Mom act alone with Wooley? To me it doesn't seem they would go after Desjardins unless they had the ok from Rizzuto/Sollecito or they approached him first through Wooley or his daughter?
Posted By: Terence

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/05/16 11:15 PM

https://reportca.net/2016/04/turmoil-in-the-montreal-mafia-its-explosive/

Latest article from ReportCa on the growing tensions in Canada outlining the alliance between the remaining Ruzzuto clan, Hells Angels, Gregory Woolley's gang with Loris Cavaliere acting as a conduit.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/06/16 01:22 PM

That's the same exact article that Anti posted. Just a different website.
Posted By: Terence

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/06/16 05:32 PM

You're right, my mistake. Sorry for the repeat post.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/08/16 05:45 PM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...lan-rizzuto.php

Another Rizzuto soldier/bodyguard to be released from jail in the fall.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/08/16 07:35 PM

Translation for previous post
DANIEL RENAUD
La Presse April 2, 2016
Pompa Desiderio, considered by police as the one responsible for collecting money from sports bets for the Montreal Mafia, failed Wednesday to convince the commissioners to grant him parole.
Pompa, a 38 year old colossus, was arrested in possession of a weapon then charged that he was in his car in December 2010, a month after the assassination of the old godfather Nicolo Rizzuto.During an ensuing search at his home, investigators found other weapons, ammunition and money. In 2014, he pleaded guilty and was sentenced to three years in prison.
Commissioners parole Wednesday Pompa confirmed that he was wearing a bulletproof vest and he was still armed in the period before his arrest because he feared for his life, he added. He said he agreed to keep a weapon that once belonged to a friend. The name of this friend does not appear in the commissioners' decision, but everything indicates that this is Ennio Bruni, then a faithful of Rizzuto killed he left the coffee Bellerose in Laval in September 2010 at the height of the coup attempt against the Sicilians. Police believe also that Pompa has since replaced Bruni in the new organizational chart of the Montreal Mafia.
MEALS FOR INSIDERS
Pompa Desiderio had a criminal record before this conviction. He denied being part of the Montreal Mafia, contrary to the assertions of intelligence reports.
Against the advice of Pompa release agent, the Commissioners refused to grant him parole. In particular, they raised the fact that during his incarceration, Pompa "had some influence in the penitentiary, it was observed directly under other influential members of the mafia and that he participated in meals where only members organized crime were invited. "
"The fact that you were constantly reinforced during your illegal activities demonstrates a propensity for violence and considerable danger to society. Even if you have not broken your requirements during your freedom on bail, the Commission believes that you have not changed your marginal values and delinquent since your arrest. Your crime is more serious than indicated by your record, "write the commissioners in a decision of five pages made on Wednesday night.
Although it has been a failure, Pompa will not have to wait very long for his freedom. His release is scheduled for the fall.
Posted By: pmac

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/08/16 07:57 PM

That guy will be on the hit list. Do yourself a favor move to Florida.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/08/16 08:48 PM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2016/04...aine-en-arizona
Translation
ERIC THIBAULT
Friday, April 8, 2016 1:32 p.m.
Update Friday, April 8, 2016 1:32 p.m.
The Montreal mafioso Girolamo Del Balso likely spend the next four years in a penitentiary in Arizona, after being found guilty of possession of 50 kilos of cocaine for the purpose of trafficking.
The man of 45 years - the younger brother of one of the leaders of the clan Rizzuto arrested and convicted following Operation Colisée November 2006, Francesco Del Balso - recorded the plea Wednesday in Superior Court of the County of Mohave , learned the Journal.
Less than two months after his arrest, he accepted a settlement offer that included a sentence of four years in prison, said to us the prosecutor, Mr. Mark Barlow.

Judge Steven Conn postponed the sentencing until next month to allow a probation officer to prepare a report assessing the Quebec detainee and whether the suggested sentence is appropriate. Del Balso is liable to a maximum penalty of five years in prison under his crime.
The charge of transporting or importing cocaine for the purpose of trafficking, which would carry a punishment three times more severe, was abandoned as a result of negotiations between the prosecution and defense.

Careless driving
February 17, Girolamo Del Balso was stopped on Interstate 40 by a state patrol to have stuck too closely another motorist.
Finding his behavior "suspicious", the "State Trooper" then requested assistance from the Kingman Police and its canine unit to search the Canadian vehicle.
The tracking dog police, a German shepherd named Amigo, quickly sensed the 50 kilos of white powder concealed inside a gym bag in the trunk of the car.
The value of the drug, estimated at US $ 3.7 million by the police, was most likely for the Canadian market, according to her.
Mafia destabilized
In police circles, they were astonished Girolamo Del Balso could serve as mere "mail" to carry such quantity of drugs, given the important role that played his older brother Francesco in the upper echelons of organized crime Italian.
The Montreal Mafia is currently destabilized. Its main alleged leaders - lawyer Leonardo Rizzuto, son of Vito Rizzuto, Sollecito and Stefano, the son of Rocco Sollecito, who was a staunch ally of the deceased godfather - have been held for a police raid in November 2015 was also the leader of the Hells Angels Salvatore Cazzetta, and a number of street gangs, Gregory Woolley.
Five days before his brother arrest,Francesco Del Balso was transferred in a halfway house, after more than nine years of incarceration.
But the murder of his friend and partner, the aspiring godfather Lorenzo Giordano, shot in the parking lot of a training center in Laval, March 1, prompted correctional authorities to bring the penitentiary in Drummondville to better ensure protection, fearing that the same fate.
Francesco Del Balso - who was a lieutenant of the former interim head of the Mafia, Francesco Arcadi - will soon be heard by the Superior Court hoping to overturn the suspension of his parole.
He had made about him during the Charbonneau Commission, whereas we had broadcast the recording of a telephone conversation in which Del Balso warned a contractor of Quebec not to return to ceramic works in Montreal. "Because next time, you will leave no around here, OK?", Had said the mafioso before hanging up.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/08/16 09:26 PM

I agree, I would get the hell out of dodge.
Posted By: pmac

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/08/16 09:27 PM

He's either got the best lawyer or he gave the Canadian feds some info as to who killed his brother or why. 62 kilos caught red handed doesn't make any sense. Street value like 10 million.
Posted By: pmac

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/08/16 09:27 PM

36k a kilo give or take a few grand.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/08/16 10:31 PM

Yeah they mention in the article there were negotiations between the prosecution and defense. Wonder what that was all about.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/08/16 11:23 PM

He may know who was involved in the murder of his brother and started to talk. We'll see if this is the case in the upcoming weeks and months.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/09/16 12:08 AM

Girolamo Del Balso's brother, Francesco, is still alive and has requested parole despite a threat on his life. You guys are probably referring to Lorenzo Giordano, who was close but unrelated to Del Balso.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/09/16 12:19 AM

Sonny is correct, Giordano was killed, not any Del Balso. They snatched Del Balso and Arcadi back up and put them back in the pen instead of keeping them in the halfway house to be clipped as well.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/09/16 01:05 AM

Definitely got him confused with Giordano for a second. But considering the closeness of those three, and the fear of authorities that the lives of Del Balso and Arcadi are in danger, maybe he knows what's actually going on out there and who's really warring with whom. Though I don't see how US agencies would be able to use that information, unless he was talking to Canadian Authorities whom were brought in. Even so, would that have any effect on a sentence given by a US court? I mean I suppose it could.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/09/16 10:38 AM

Your are correct Sonny Black . My statement to pmac was in reference to the light sentence. I did not read the part about the brother.I shoud have been more attentive.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/09/16 11:08 AM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...la-di-marco.php

translation
Published April 8, 2016 at 19:19 | Updated April 8, 2016 at 19:19
Nicola Di Marco, an intermediate of the Montreal Mafia "high level" who was released on parole in 2014, was returned to prison in recent weeks for breaking one of its conditions, learned La Presse.

Di Marco, 46, who could not associate with individuals linked to organized crime, was seen with a person associated with the Mafia, which would have caused his recall. According to unconfirmed reports, this individual would be Nino De Bartolomeis, aka Nino Brown, seriously wounded in an attack two weeks ago. It also appears, according to our sources, the authorities were worried about the safety of Di Marco since the murder of aspiring godfather Lorenzo Giordano committed in Laval, March 1st.

In 2011, Nicola Di Marco was sentenced to more than four years in prison for possession of a 9 mm pistol and keeping a gambling house. When major anti-mafia raid Clemenza led by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police Canada in 2014, Di Marco was again arrested for attempting to introduce drugs in prison, on behalf of his former boss, the late leader of clan Giuseppe de Vito, poisoned with cyanide to Donnacona penitentiary in summer 2013. it imposed an additional sentence of 12 months for the crime.

During the 2000s, Di Marco has also been, for some time at least, one of the leaders of an illegal gambling house controlled by the Mafia.

It's also about him that investigators had found in 2008, incriminating documents given by the mole RCMP Angelo Cecere, who acted on behalf of Giuseppe De Vito.

During submissions on sentencing, the former prosecutor of the Federal Prosecution became a judge of the Court of Québec, Yvan Poulin, described Di Marco as an intermediate high-level mafia because he had testified himself, he could sit at the same table with important mafiosi.

Unless a turnaround, Di Marco might have to appear before the Parole Board members. It could also choose to wait until the end of his sentence, in the coming months.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/13/16 11:15 AM

Mathieu Desjardins son of Raynald Desjardins sentenced one year in jail for possession of a fire arm.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/13/16 04:18 PM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...-desjardins.php
translation
Published April 13, 2016 at 9:04 | Updated at 9:04

DANIEL RENAUD
La Presse
Mathieu Desjardins, 27, whose father Raynald Desjardins is regarded by the police as a major player in Montreal organized crime, was sentenced to a year in prison for possession of a weapon Tuesday at the courthouse in Montreal.

This provincial sentence is a victory for his lawyer, M e Jean Cordeau, which called for a year, while the prosecution wanted a sentence ranging from two and a half years to three years.

In his decision, Judge Jean-Pierre Boyer of the Quebec Court took into account the lack of criminal history of the accused, the fact that he pled guilty and a report was favorable which among his "dynamism, its good organization, maturity and motivation" to keep the efforts for a successful future.

Mathieu Desjardins was arrested by patrol SPVM as he left a jewelry store downtown Montreal, June 6, 2012. The police were called by an employee who had seen a handgun in the bag back of the suspect, now commercially as a single client. In searching her bag, patrol have found a 9mm pistol loaded with eight bullets and whose serial number had been obliterated.

FEARS FOR HIS LIFE

Mathieu Desjardins pleaded guilty to a weapons possession charge in May 2015. During sentencing submissions to impose, he explained that he had bought the gun a few days after the attempted murder against his father, in Laval, September 16, 2011, because he feared for his life. He also told that these are the contacts he has made while working in the bars which enabled him to obtain this weapon on the black market. Finally, Mathieu Desjardins also admitted to making marginal meetings in the past, but said he was not attracted to this lifestyle.


Today, the young man is co-owner of a fitness center. Mathieu Desjardins will likely serve at least half of his sentence before getting parole.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/05/16 03:33 PM

"Attaque au café Liana: un message à un acteur important de la mafia"

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...de-la-mafia.php
Posted By: Mick2010

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/05/16 07:16 PM

Any chance you can give a quick run down of the article? My translation was junk
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/05/16 10:18 PM

Here is the translation:
After a few relatively quiet weeks,the arson that occurred Saturday at Café Liana in Montreal suburb Rivière-des-Prairies could mean the beginning of a renewed tensions within the Montreal Mafia.

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Marco Pizzi is suspected of being a cocaine importer and is currently charged in connection by the Clemenza investigation led by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police in 2010 and 2011.
PHOTO HUGO SEBASTIAN AUBERT, THE ARCHIVE PRESS
According to our information and sources, the Liana café, located at 7310, boulevard Maurice-Duplessis, whose window was damaged by a Molotov cocktail to 5 h 30 Saturday morning, was controlled - at least until recently - by Marco Pizzi, suspected of being a cocaine importer and currently accused in connection with the Clemenza investigation by the RCMP in 2010 and 2011. Pizzi was arrested last May as part of this investigation and released a few weeks later, pending further proceedings.
On 1 st August, the 46 year old man Marco Pizzi was victim of a murder attempt when two individuals rammed his vehicle with their van on Avenue de la Grande-Allée, in Montreal East.
When Marco Pizzi got out of his car, he noticed that the occupants of the other vehicle were holding weapons and immediately fled and managed to avoid an attempt on his life.The suspects, one might ask if their intention was to kidnap Pizzi, ran to their getaway car before evaporating in nature. One of the suspects has associations to street gangs, but was arrested a few days later by the SPVM.

Café is KNOWN to police.
During major police investigations in recent years, scores of individuals linked to the mafia or organized crime , have led them to Liana cafe.
It has been reportedly that the property was controlled by Tonino Callocchia, suspected of being a lender and cocaine importer and an associate of Pizzi, murdered in a bar of the Rivière-des-Prairies, the XO Bistro, November 30, 2014.
The police does not exclude that Callocchia was the victim of a set up. Reportedly, he and Pizzi were to take part in a meeting which was apparently first convened at Liana bar and continue at bistro XO.
By coincidence, Pizzi was not a victim of events, but sources do not rule out that he could also have been targeted by the attackers.
The Liana coffee was formerly calle Boca coffee. In December 2010, investigators from the Organized Crime Division of the Montreal police had raided the Boca coffee as part of a project called Alkali for the purpose to end a wave of arson attacks against Italian cafes of Montreal, conducted at the height of the coup attempt carried out against Rizzuto, weakened by Project Colisée.
Last spring, following an agreement with the owners, the commission of Alcohol and Gaming, suspended the license of Boca cafe for 23 days after finding various breaches of the law. In particular, the board had not been notified of the name change from Boca Café to Liana Cafe.
In June 2014, an inspector from the agency was among others that found that the cafe service desk was not functional, the fridge was locked and not functional and there was no cash register.
To join Daniel Renaud confidentially, call 514 285-7000, extension 4918, or write to the postal address of La Presse.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/15/16 12:10 AM


It looks like they are at it again.

http://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2016/09/14/mysterieux-message-a-la-mafia
Posted By: ralphie_cifaretto

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/15/16 12:29 AM

The hatred they have for the ol' Rizzuto faction is like a bottomless pit.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/15/16 12:36 AM

http://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2016/09/14/mysterieux-message-a-la-mafia

Here is the translation: Sept. 14, 2016
Mysterious message to the Mafia
Three cafe’s linked to Vito Rizzuto clan (deceased godfather), were attacked by arsonists in less than a week. A mysterious message left in a bottle near one of the café’s, suggests that attempts to destroy what remains of the Sicilian clan.
Without fanfare, in the shadow of the return of the Hells Angels in Quebec, the Montreal Mafia seems beset by tensions.
For a third time, two mafia-related institutions were targeted, but this time around, they seem to have ensured to leave a message at the café.
On the night of September 9, Café Empire of the Jean-Talon St. E. had his window smashed by an incendiary object.
Empire and Dilallo
This cafe was the place of meeting of the Interim godfather of the Montreal Mafia, Stefano Sollecito, jailed since last November after Magot Mastiff and operations, according to police sources.
The same night, vandals have also visited Dilallo restaurant located a few meters from the Empire coffee.
The restaurant serves burgers is administered by Vito Salvaggio and as a third shareholder, a numbered company located in the home of Leonardo Rizzuto, but registered in the name of the mother of the man who was also arrested in anti-mafia raid last November.
"The suspects fled on foot to the arrival of police, we are always looking for them," confirmed the SPVM
It is in a side street not far from there that the police found a message for the Sicilian clan whose tottering leadership is questioned. The SPVM refused to confirm that such a message has been recovered from the scene.
Beautiful rose
Last Monday, in the morning, a Molotov cocktail was thrown against the Bellerose coffee shop window located in the Vimont district of Laval.
The incendiary device has only very little damage to the facility, but that's what happened there six years in the same place, which raises questions.
Empire and Dilallo
This cafe was the place of meeting of the Interim godfather of the Montreal Mafia, Stefano Sollecito, jailed since last November after Magot Mastiff operations, according to police sources.
The same night, vandals have also visited Dilallo restaurant located a few meters from the Empire coffee.
The restaurant serves burgers is administered by Vito Salvaggio and he is listed as a third shareholder, a numbered company located in the home of Leonardo Rizzuto, but registered in the name of the mother of the man who was also arrested in anti-mafia raid last November.
"The suspects fled on foot to the arrival of police, we are always looking for them," confirmed the SPVM
It is in a side street not far from there that the police found a message for the Sicilian clan whose tottering leadership is questioned. The SPVM refused to confirm that such a message has been recovered from the scene.
Café Bellerose
Last Monday, in the morning, a Molotov cocktail was thrown against the Bellerose coffee shop window located in the Vimont district of Laval.
The incendiary device has only very little damage to the facility, but that's what happened there six years in the same place, which raises questions.
In September 2010, the henchman of the Rizzuto family, Enio Bruni fell to the bullets of assassins while the godfather was still imprisoned in the United States
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/15/16 12:38 AM

I know when is all of this going to end.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/15/16 12:39 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment


Daniel Renaud theorizes that the recent attacks on establishments have been caused by a fight for control of the sports-betting racket.

Mafia montréalaise: bras de fer pour le «livre» des paris sportifs

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...is-sportifs.php
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/15/16 01:19 PM

Here is another article from Journal de Montreal. Interesting article. Some are refusing the godfather job.

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2016/09/15/vague-dincendies-criminels-contre-le-clan-rizzuto
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/15/16 01:29 PM

They are speculating Rizzuto clan retaliation for this Resto Liege.

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...-a-montreal.php
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/15/16 06:29 PM

Logical decision of Mucci not wanting to step in as leader of the old Rizzuto group. History has shown that he'll be marked and he knows that better than anyone. Not for nothing he's one of the last of the Mohicans. However, it seems that even the Rizzuto family have lost faith in Stefano Sollecito and that he's becoming increasingly isolated. Or perhaps he's now too ill to lead. In any case, it must suck to be him right now.

The intriguing question remains of who is behind these attacks. I'm suprised that so far not even a hint is given.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/15/16 09:35 PM

Importante frappe contre la mafia à Laval | JDM http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2016/09/15/importante-frappe-contre-la-mafia-a-laval
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/15/16 09:56 PM

This has been one busy week !
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/15/16 11:03 PM

Le criminaliste Loris Cavaliere accusé de possession d'arme http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...ssion-darme.php
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/15/16 11:15 PM

I guess he was afraid to get whacked Like the previous mob lawyers Frank Schoofey & Sidney Leithman.
Posted By: pmac

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/15/16 11:16 PM

When people were saying vitos family was like the 6th family or equal get fuck out of here. That family has gotten taken out 1by1. Now people are just bullying them firebombing there cafes and saying gives us what you got left. Just to much man power and history in the states for that type of shit.
Posted By: BobbyPazzo

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/16/16 01:32 AM

Originally Posted By: pmac
When people were saying vitos family was like the 6th family or equal get fuck out of here. That family has gotten taken out 1by1. Now people are just bullying them firebombing there cafes and saying gives us what you got left. Just to much man power and history in the states for that type of shit.

@pmac ... I don't much about Canada but from what I do know and hear about them they are on another level. These guys seen to still have the old world mentality. Yes they are getting killed left and right bu that's exactly the point... They're killing people like it's nothing. They don't give a fuck up there. That kinda shit would never happen in the states nowadays. I keep reading about all these murders and how they're carried out and I'm like what the fuck. I don't know how much money they make and the types of rackets they run but they are Definetly gangster as fuck. I don't know they amount of guys they have or the structure but you have to give them credit for being about that action. I feel like I'm reading a mob fiction novel.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/16/16 11:19 AM

Agostino [BadWord] enterprise hit with Molotov cocktail.

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...ail-molotov.php

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2016/09...saint-leonard-1
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/16/16 12:59 PM

English article.

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...ng-mafia-member
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/16/16 01:52 PM

pmac, I would have to disagree. When Vito was out of jail they were a well known power. The only time bodies start to drop is when the leaders were/are in jail or prison. They didn't even hit Rocco Sollecito until Stefano and Leonardo Rizzuto were behind bars. Same for these attacks.

I think Stefano lost a ton of power once his father died. Leonardo might be in trouble now unless he gets out with a good bit of power as well. We'll see soon enough.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/16/16 03:18 PM

Originally Posted By: pmac
When people were saying vitos family was like the 6th family or equal get fuck out of here. That family has gotten taken out 1by1. Now people are just bullying them firebombing there cafes and saying gives us what you got left. Just to much man power and history in the states for that type of shit.


Wrong. As Dixie said , these attempts happen when the leaders are in prison and the Sicilian clan is always in a state of weakness when the leaders are imprisoned. Its like they get knocked down by law enforcement and whomever their enemies are, they simply smell blood and attack when the clan is already in a weakened state. Of course this is typical of the mafia , however that doesn't take away from the power they seem to wield when their leaders are on the street .

I've stopped keeping track of all of this , tbh, after the Rocco Sollecito murder and the mandatory imprisonments of Frank Del Balso & Frank Arcadi. As I've taken an interest in NY matters between the 80's and early 00's. But things seem to be getting interesting again. Gonna be intriguing as to what comes next.
Posted By: pmac

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/16/16 04:06 PM

Agree to disagree. I just think theres more man power in the nyc families were no one would get firebombed on the regular like these last few years. Theyjust have to many guys. Even the small family like colombos they have 60made guys and probaly 100 sons n nephews who would be on the hunt for the guy doing this shit. The huge diffence in nyc not 1 boss have the balls to order hits on dumb shit and face the death penalty. Big paul chin or gotti were all before the federal death pen. Change in 1994. If any of there places got fire bombed and messges they probally have a boss meeting and send out crew from every family to kill the dudes.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/16/16 06:33 PM

Problem with Montreal is that there are a dozen or so factions consisting of a dozen or so guys and no unity.
Posted By: BillyBrizzi

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/16/16 08:47 PM

Looking at the Canadian mob the last couple of years, my esteem for Vito Rizzuto, as a mob leader, got even bigger in retrospect.

All the factions in the underworld must've really feared and respected him, because during his tenure his word was law and he could keep all the factions in line. In my eyes he was the most effective and intelligent North American mob boss of the new millennium.
Posted By: ralphie_cifaretto

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/16/16 08:53 PM

Originally Posted By: BillyBrizzi
Looking at the Canadian mob the last couple of years, my esteem for Vito Rizzuto, as a mob leader, got even bigger in retrospect.

All the factions in the underworld must've really feared and respected him, because during his tenure his word was law en he could keep all the factions in line. In my eyes he was the most effective and intelligent North American mob boss of the new millennium.


He was a very sharp guy. Well read and sophisticated. However, he was operating in a world filled with jealous neanderthals who wanted his spot. I think he knew it wasn't going to work out in the long run.
Posted By: BillyBrizzi

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/16/16 09:00 PM

Originally Posted By: ralphie_cifaretto
Originally Posted By: BillyBrizzi
Looking at the Canadian mob the last couple of years, my esteem for Vito Rizzuto, as a mob leader, got even bigger in retrospect.

All the factions in the underworld must've really feared and respected him, because during his tenure his word was law and he could keep all the factions in line. In my eyes he was the most effective and intelligent North American mob boss of the new millennium.


He was a very sharp guy. Well read and sophisticated. However, he was operating in a world filled with jealous neanderthals who wanted his spot. I think he knew it wasn't going to work out in the long run.


I think you could be right Ralphie, in a way his death was very anti-climatic because he was in the middle of his revenge expedition and it would've been very interesting to see what his reaction would've been to some of the events from the last couple of years.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/17/16 12:29 AM

Originally Posted By: pmac
Agree to disagree. I just think theres more man power in the nyc families were no one would get firebombed on the regular like these last few years. Theyjust have to many guys. Even the small family like colombos they have 60made guys and probaly 100 sons n nephews who would be on the hunt for the guy doing this shit. The huge diffence in nyc not 1 boss have the balls to order hits on dumb shit and face the death penalty. Big paul chin or gotti were all before the federal death pen. Change in 1994. If any of there places got fire bombed and messges they probally have a boss meeting and send out crew from every family to kill the dudes.



Your problem is you keep comparing Montreal to NY , when you can't. It's apples to oranges , they're completely different animals , with their own settings , alliances , criminal groups , etc. Its not a fair comparison . One place ever got firebombed in NYC , it'd be called terrorism, the feds would be on their asses in no time. Some place gets firebombed in Montreal or Canada and the RCMP don't know where to start. Mob leaders arent killed in NYC , at all , because the current landscape, environment and culture wouldnt allow it, it has nothing to do with manpower or NYC families being stronger or more vicious than those in Canada or vice versa. Simply put, the feds will shut shit down quick. Stop with this whole NYC is smarter and more dangerous theory, because it isn't true. Maybe in the 70's and 80's these things would happen, not now. Whereas those mafia affiliated in Montreal are going about like its the First Mafia War in Sicily. This also has nothing to do with either side being more smarter or more dangerous than the other , its simply the lack of a RICO in Canada , and the laws on Organized Crime being a lot more lax over there than it is in the States.
Posted By: pmac

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/17/16 01:16 AM

Your 100percent right s club i was kinda just being a dick. I just think some board members over hype the montreal fAmily or whatever the fuck they are. Your right about the terrorism call deffirent worlds.nyc to montreal. What evers going on up there it isnt organized crime its more like who said 12 groups of 12 all fighting for a piece.
Posted By: pmac

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/17/16 01:17 AM

Maybe toronto a whole nother ball game.
Posted By: pmac

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/17/16 01:18 AM

I will say the vito revenge tour was pretty badass well he was alive. But i think the whole organized mafia died with him.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/17/16 01:46 AM

Originally Posted By: pmac
Maybe toronto a whole nother ball game.


Toronto guys keep a low profile so they are not a high priority, but Montreal police make arrests all the time. They are even bugging law offices.
Posted By: JC

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/17/16 02:15 AM

He was a real success as a human being and a mob boss. His father, his brother-in-law and his son all got killed on his watch. Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy, I am sure that the Violis are laughing their asses off in Ontario.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/17/16 05:57 AM

Right JC but those who hit all 3 never would have done it had Massino NOT flipped. That's the only reason Vito took the plea and agreed to serve time in the U.S. If he could have served his time in Canada I don't think none of this gets kick started either. But as soon as he crossed the border the ones wanting to overthrow started their moves. Like Joe Bravo said about Vito being gone and said something to the like "once the boss is gone, the guys will play". Many overlooked Vito too like Joe Bravo who thought he had been with him long enough he thought he was ok but still spurned Vito's calls to Cuba and the DR and of course Vito sent word to Italy and before you knew it Joe Bravo is dead. Same for Moreno Gallo in Mexico.

I wouldn't expect any big hits for now after Sollecito was hit. Leonardo and Stefano are locked up, Desjardins is locked up, so it's a guess at this point as to who has been firebombing places up there. It's definitely going to get interesting if Rizzuto/Sollecito get off this case squeaky clean though.
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/17/16 06:38 AM

@ Sinatra
+1 to that, been missing your post my man.........

@pmac & scorcese


Only thing I disagree with is that they come to NY for coke connects. I think they come to NY to organize shipments FROM THEIR CONNECT, to their distributors in Europe. I think y'all misunderstanding NYs place in the chain here.

Its the MID-POINT, for the Calabrians. Not the starting point (where they purchase) or the end point (where they get money, distributing). Take the Dominicans right? NY is the END-POINT for them. That's where they GET money distributing. It's 23-25 thou in NY for a key. What makes this work is that it's 10000 a key in the Dominican Republic. Same price in Mexico, or Costa Rica, basically the closer you can get to South America. So THATS where you need your people for a high level connect.

NY is going to be the starting ( purchasing point) for like high level retailers- mid level wholesalers.


That's one of the main reasons these bust were kinda weird. The Siderno group consortium gets coke in Colombia', ships it around the Pacific coast, THROUGH THE PANAMA CANAL, over the Atlantic to Europe. So not only did their coke never go to NY, it never even went OVER LAND. It went directly from Colombia TO the ports in Gioia Tauro and I guess the Port in Montreal? ( I can't remember if they ship it to Europe first, then send it to Montreal, or if it's the other way around...edit: I realized I kept saying Montreal when I meant Toronto, sorry bout that...) This fact that they could bypass the Mexican border, over land is a big reason why they have become what they are today.
(It's also why the Dominicans have what they have in NY, they have the Water equivalent of what the Mexicans have with their land border. But land will always be cheaper to send product over than having to charter a ship or plane, so until they start building walls, increasing the difficulty at the border, and pushing more of the volume through the Caribbean again, the Mexicans kinda will always have the upper hand there as far as being able to move larger BULK shipments. But the Dominicans, because they have " distribution centers", their own neighborhoods they can sell on corners, they have no real reason to go to outsiders really, they are regional, but vertically and horizontally integrated, so they can maximize profits, with these profits, eventually, some Dominican drug lord will organize his own boats or planes and then volume wise they will compete with the Mexicans and Italians...)




My rule of thumb used to be, coke from Colombia over land, To the US = Mexico. ( interestingly, except for the North East...) Coke from Colombia over water, To Europe = Calabrian. But Coke from Colombia, over water to the Dominican Republic, and from there over water, ( be it plane or boat..) to NY and the North East, = Dominican wholesalers/Colombian suppliers. Now, the Dominicans aren't global, they are regional. (This is why I put the Italians and Mexicans a SLIGHT rung above em, the more coke passes through the Caribbean, the narrower the gap is..)

The other weird part of the bust was the MEXICAN CARTEL NOT BASED ON THE BORDER, BUT IN COSTA RICA, CLOSER TO THE COKE. I can't get an understanding as to WHAT CARTEL this is exactly. Sinaloa or the Zetas. I keep reading the Zetas are basically finished, so it must be Sinaloa I guess? They are the only cartel left with global capabilities I think. I always used to connect the cartels to what part of the border they controlled. (Juarez, the Gulf, Tiajuana, Sinaloa produces the most drugs, also has produced the most bosses amongst ALL the cartels) But this cartels strength seems to be based on the fact that they can get cheap coke, AND get the coke to Europe because they had their own shipment service in place. So you have a Mexican cartel, NOT based on moving product across the border.

See I think the Caribbean route is actually faster, better, going back to the rum running days of Luciano and Lansky. It's why they wanted Cuba as the transshipment/ command center for Narcotics. It's more direct, I guess. Whereas the land route is more secure? ( Coke can't sink over land)


So this is rival families, setting up their own TRANSHIPMENT POINTS, all their connects seem to be based in South America, or at least Central America.

What do you guys think, any more thoughts?
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/17/16 07:15 AM

Also @ pmac



Gang warfare is nothing like real warfare. Adding up the number of men doesn't tell the whole tale. Think back in Sammys book, the Gambinos had, whatever, twenty one -twenty-six crews right? Yet Sammy said when it came down to it, FIVE really mattered. Gottis crew, DeCiccos crew, Aurello crew, Gaggi- DeMeo, actually it might be four. If you woulda took a sheet of paper, drew a line down the middle, wrote Paul on one side, John on the other, and listed everything Paul had vs everything John had, on paper I'd bet you Paul wipes the fuckin floor with Gotti.


Like the Corleonesi. They had a death squad of maybe 14 guys. They never showed their faces until it was time to do a hit, then back to the shadows, you gotta understand the OLD WORLD WAYS.On paper, no way they win that war vs Bontade and Inzerillo. Or even think back to the castallamarese war. On paper, Maranzano SHOULDNT HAVE been able to beat Masseria. But Maranzano was a better guerrilla fighter/soldier.
Also having unidentifiable hitters is a big plus. I mean come on man, WE KNOW WHO THE MADE GUYS ARE. The Calabrians could find out more even easier, and their hitters would most likely be unknown to American wise-guys.


Now, having said all that, like Sinatra said it would never happen I the states. I don't even think you can take a City like NY, militarily. You know how you do it? With finances and resources. He who makes the most money, can buy the most guns, buy the most allies, gain the most power. So I think what they are talking about is a financial coup, more so than a military one...
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/17/16 11:45 AM

Originally Posted By: JC
He was a real success as a human being and a mob boss. His father, his brother-in-law and his son all got killed on his watch. Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy, I am sure that the Violis are laughing their asses off in Ontario.


The Violis undoubtedly had to have some gladness about what happened , but the family itself had jack shit to do with those murders in all likelihood , had Vito never been imprisoned and extradited. Odds are if Vito had to serve his sentence in a Canadian prison, like he initially was and wanted to, all three of those men would still be alive . Except maybe Nicolo Sr , but he'd of died of natural causes as an old man .


@ CabriniGreen , I've been lurking lol. And youre totally right about the crew thing, I hadnt even thought of that. I think Sammy even flat out said so in Underboss a couple of times , Paul had more guys than Gotti & Dellacroce , but the majority of Pauls guys and the crews loyal to him consisted of non-hitters and semi-retiree's . The only guys whom were a worry was the DeMeo crew. Good post.
Posted By: RollinBones

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/17/16 02:20 PM

cabrini green, just curious where you got that 23-25k/kilo number for NY?
Posted By: Alfa Romeo

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/17/16 03:41 PM

Thanks for the education Cabrini. I have not studied up much on Canadian Cosa Nostra. It's hella interesting from the layman book reader point of view. International drug trafficking Euro-criminals with tons of money, exotic names, and narcissistic personality disorder galore. I have a question for you.

It is said that Aruba became the first [Cosa Nostra] Mafia state to exist when the Cun-trera and Caruana mafia families took over like 60% of the real estate there. Alfonso [Caruana], my namesake, became almost like the mafia king of Aruba, or at least part of it. What is your take on Aruba's role today, if you have any? I think money laundering took place there, and it just had to be a transit point for narcotics. What do you think is going on today? If you don't have an opinion on Aruba, that's ok too.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/17/16 08:32 PM

I think they've been, at least partly, been kicked out of Aruba. However, the Mafia still has a presence on these island that are part of the Dutch kingdom, notably curacao.
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/17/16 11:39 PM

@rollingbones

Documentaries mostly, also a lot of reading. I've seen the 10000 a Ki number for Dominican Republic, Mexico and Costa Rica now. It's like 6000 or so in Venezuela and Brazil, maybe 2000 in Colombia and Peru.

That 23-25000 number I was low balling kinda. Scorsese mentioned that guys could just get coke in NY, so I figured it must be pretty cheap. I've also seen traffickers, in Chicago, the higher level guys can get it for close to 25, but this could be from a few years ago, in the other thread, about GDs, they got the guy on a wiretap saying he USEDto get it for 22, now it's 35. Again, that makes sense because there has been consolidation as far as who controls the borders, it's mostly only Sinaloa now so they can charge more if they want...


What do you think bones, is it more close to 30? 35? That would make sense, in the Decavalcante thread, they say they retail near 80 thou of a half Ki. I saw a doc on Dominican wholesalers saying they get it 10000 in The Dominican Republic, and sell for 23 in NY. I thought that was a little low, like not a big enough margin. But that could be the "Homie price" lol.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/17/16 11:57 PM

I disagree with your the premise, "had Vito never been imprisoned".
Same thing could be said with Paolo Violi who was also imprisoned when the Rizzuto clan made their moves. Frank Cotroni was also imprisoned.
The difference between now and then is that the Vic Cotroni was probably given orders by New York to stand down or he decided he had enough and decided to retire. The difference now is that they do not answer to New York and several capo's from the Cotroni clan decided to strike Rizzuto while he was vulnerable in jail. Furthermore in 2001 Paolo Gervasi wanted to revenge his son's death, he sent two contract killers ready to kill Vito and two of his associates and the attempt was foiled because of police intervention. Again someone could say things would have been different had they succeeded. I believe that fate sometimes plays a good part in determining events.
I also do not dismiss that fact that Ontario may have played a role to destabilize and eventually take control of the Montreal drug trade.
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/18/16 12:06 AM

Alfa, hey whats up my man!!!!

I think Sonny pretty much summed up Aruba, but that clan is still, I think one of the top three or so clans in ITALIAN ORGANIZED CRIME in general. Anywhere. They really are like the Mafias Rothschilds..
Posted By: Alfa Romeo

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/18/16 01:03 AM

Originally Posted By: CabriniGreen
Alfa, hey whats up my man!!!!

I think Sonny pretty much summed up Aruba, but that clan is still, I think one of the top three or so clans in ITALIAN ORGANIZED CRIME in general. Anywhere. They really are like the Mafias Rothschilds..


Hey Cabrini, doing great. I appreciate you for responding even though I knew you would.

From what you and Sonny had said, it's sounding like an off shore tax haven money laundering situation somewhere out in those islands. Curacao is right next to Aruba. Thank you Sonny and Cabrini for making an attempt at answering my question.

What is surprising [to me] about the Caruana and Cun Trera mafia families is the level of sophistication.

Apparently the underworld trusted them a great deal because they had an airtight ship...blood ties. Alfonso married his niece...it doesn't get any tighter than that.

Then you read about how they dealt directly with the Corsican underworld as Cosa Nostra's middlemen. To me, Corsican underworld means L'Unione Corsa, something almost everyone knows practically nothing about. Fascinating.

The Corsicans are mysterious. Like Sicily they are an island off the mainland of France. Like many Sicilians, they don't seem to quite identify with the mainland. Linguistically, they appear to be partly French and partly Italian, at least as far as their given names go. And last but not least, they have a blackamoor head on their flag. The blackamoor head symbol is also supposedly a sign that one is a member of the Corsican Brotherhood or L'Unione Corsa. It might be worn as a watch fob or pendant.

With these groups, the Cun-treras, Caruanas, and Corsicans, I just can't see them gathering in social clubs or having weekly shape ups at a mob headquarters. Not street gangs.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/18/16 05:33 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
I disagree with your the premise, "had Vito never been imprisoned".
Same thing could be said with Paolo Violi who was also imprisoned when the Rizzuto clan made their moves. Frank Cotroni was also imprisoned.


Not really because Nicolo was already making moves before Violi was locked up. That was why he wanted to kill Nicolo but never go the ok to do so.

In Vito's case you didn't hear shit until he was locked up in Supermax.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/18/16 07:42 PM

For your information Nicolo Rizzuto started to make his moves only after he learned from the CECO commission tape recordings that Paolo Violi and Pietro Sciarra were discussing Nicolo's fate. This was in 1975 and Paolo Violi was imprisoned the same year. Prior to 1975 Nicolo was doing his own thing and wanted nothing to do with Paolo V. This is what sparked meetings with the Bonanno's.
In Vito's case, I do not understand what point your trying to make. I agree that he kept a tight ship and he was good at keeping the peace among all the different clans in Montreal but it wasn't with out incidence. I explained in the same message that he and Paolo Gervasi were feuding and that was well before Vito got arrested.
Posted By: GangstersInc

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/19/16 11:54 AM

Arsonists set Montreal ablaze as deadly Mafia war continues
http://gangstersinc.ning.com/profiles/bl...a-war-continues
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/21/16 08:06 PM

Breaking news:

Projet Machine: le Hells Angels Salvatore Cazzetta libéré de toute accusation

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...-accusation.php
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/21/16 11:17 PM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
Breaking news:

Projet Machine: le Hells Angels Salvatore Cazzetta libéré de toute accusation

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...-accusation.php


I can hardly make anything out the translation. Has he been released? If so, why?
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/22/16 03:40 AM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: antimafia
Breaking news:

Projet Machine: le Hells Angels Salvatore Cazzetta libéré de toute accusation

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...-accusation.php


I can hardly make anything out the translation. Has he been released? If so, why?


Renaud has updated his article, but the one to which I've linked below should answer your questions.

Alleged Hells Angels boss obtains stay of proceedings in contraband tobacco case

http://ctv.news/uXgtiJa
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/22/16 01:08 PM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: antimafia
Breaking news:

Projet Machine: le Hells Angels Salvatore Cazzetta libéré de toute accusation

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...-accusation.php


I can hardly make anything out the translation. Has he been released? If so, why?


Renaud has updated his article, but the one to which I've linked below should answer your questions.

Alleged Hells Angels boss obtains stay of proceedings in contraband tobacco case

http://ctv.news/uXgtiJa


Thanks!
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/22/16 08:21 PM

Sonny Black, I've quit trying to read the translated articles myself. It's gotten to where you can't understand shit in them anymore unless you have a French background. It's frustrating as shit sometimes.
Posted By: ralphie_cifaretto

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/22/16 08:58 PM

The war in Montreal has forced me to attend French classes at USC every Monday, Tuesday and Friday.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/22/16 09:08 PM


Here is the Montreal Gazzette (english) version.

Sept 21,2016 CHRISTOPHER CURTIS, MONTREAL GAZETTE

The Hells Angels scored another judicial victory Wednesday as a Superior Court judge tossed out a slew of charges against high-ranking club member Salvatore Cazzetta.
Cazzetta was facing five counts of gangsterism and conspiracy to commit fraud among other alleged crimes stemming from a 2009 arrest. However, Judge James Brunton had to dismiss the charges because of a series of delays in Cazzetta’s trial.
The delays violated timeframes outlined by the Supreme Court of Canada’s Jordan decision — which states that Superior Court trials must be completed within 30 months of the suspect’s arraignment.
Defence lawyers argued Cazzetta’s trial would likely end only in the summer of 2017 — some 96 months after he was charged alongside other suspects in the Machine raids. The operation saw some 600 police from the RCMP, Sûreté du Québec and Kahnawake Peacekeepers break up an alleged contraband tobacco ring.
Brunton issued his decision in a Longueuil courthouse after deliberating for two days.
“We are absolutely satisfied with this decision,” said Anne-Marie Lanctot, Cazzetta’s lawyer. “We were way past the timeframe … Really, the only delays we were responsible for add up to about 11 months. The Crown made a strategic decision to try to introduce evidence that was inadmissible, which caused delay after delay after delay.”
The case against Cazzetta’s co-accused — Peter Rice and his sons Peter Francis and Burton — was also thrown out Wednesday.
This is the second time charges against Cazzetta have been dropped because of unreasonable court delays. In 2011, Brunton dismissed Cazzetta’s case and that of 30 others rounded up in the 2009 SharQC raids.
Though Cazzetta will not serve time for the gangsterism charges, he’s still awaiting trial for his arrest related to the Sûreté du Québec’s Magot-Mastiff’s organized crime probe.
Representatives from the Quebec Crown prosecutor’s office did not respond to the Montreal Gazette’s interview requests.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/22/16 09:49 PM

Originally Posted By: ralphie_cifaretto
The war in Montreal has forced me to attend French classes at USC every Monday, Tuesday and Friday.


Bonne chance avec ça! I had french and german at school, but it's very rusty.
Posted By: pmac

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/23/16 12:12 AM

So they dropped the charges on a old case but all this stuff with vito rizzutos kid will probaly hold him for another 5 yrs.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/23/16 12:39 AM

Originally Posted By: pmac
So they dropped the charges on a old case but all this stuff with vito rizzutos kid will probaly hold him for another 5 yrs.


Yes, but it's still a huge victory for the club. Authorities all over the world are not very succesfull against the Hells Angels in recent years.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/23/16 03:51 PM

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/e...rticle32012926/

Gang experts are concerned about the resurgence of biker gangs
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/23/16 07:57 PM

Prohibited goods delivered to Montreal prisons by drones.

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...es-et-lames.php

English translation:

PRISON in RIVER-DES-PRAIRIES Montreal
Édition du 23 septembre 2016,
TWO DRONES WERE OBSERVED, DRUGS AND WEAPONS FOUND
Last Thursday it was the day of drones at the detention center of Rivière-des-Prairies in Montreal. While two of these flying machines have been observed over the prison yards , the guards discovered in a prison sector housing gang members, a relatively large amount of drugs and tools that were likely delivered by drone tools, as reported by La Presse .
DANIEL RENAUD OF LA PRESSE
RISE IN SIGHTINGS
Drones reported to prison security Québec 2013-2014: 42014-2015: 182015-2016: 272016-2017: 11 (to July 16)

According to stats. obtained from the Ministry of Public Security through the Act on access to public information, the drone sightings over the land of Quebec prisons have vastly risen since 2014. Last year sightings was at 27. This year, as of July 11, there was 16, a figure which is already higher than the same period last year. This year's statistics do not include two last Thursday observations over the Rivière-des-Prairies Detention Centre.
MOST DELIVERED
DANIEL RENAUDLA PRESSE
The most frequent seized goods that are delivered by drones are narcotics, tobacco and rolling paper, the trafficking of these prohibited products within the prison institutional walls are high valued and in demand. Cellular devices, which may allow a prisoner to continue his criminal activities from his cell, are also regularly seized.
DRUGS, CELLULAR AND SAW BLADES ...
DANIEL RENAUDLA PRESSE
After receiving information, correctional officers conducted a search in the evening in the 16 cells of the prison sector which mostly houses “Blue” street gang members. According to sources, they found more than 50 grams of hashish, a substance resembling heroin, six cell phones, saw blades and a small multifunctional appliance. Hours earlier, two drones were sighted over two yards of the prison institution, which is another area where the prisoners are classified as a "general section” of the prison. It is not known if objects were seized as a result of the observation of these drones.
GRILLAGES CLAIMED
DANIEL RENAUDLA PRESSE
The president of the Union of Officers in Correctional Services of Quebec, Mathieu Lavoie, would not confirm the information obtained byLa Presse . But implore the government to take action to stop the growing deliveries by drones in the 18 prisons in Quebec. "We realize that pilot projects or measures put in place after the escapes of Quebec and St. Jerome did not stop these intrusions," says Mr. Lavoie.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/24/16 07:44 PM

Cazzetta in his younger years.

Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/25/16 06:44 PM

Ok so these charges are from 2009. It seems the worst charges are from this current case anyways. He still has a long way to go to get out on this case.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/05/16 12:23 PM

They're at it again.

This time, one of the most storied locations in Montreal Mafia history.

"Le bar de danseuses Solid Gold visé par deux incendies criminels"

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...s-criminels.php

Posted By: BobbyPazzo

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/05/16 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted By: antimafia
They're at it again.

This time one of the most storied locations in Montreal Mafia history.

"Le bar de danseuses Solid Gold visé par deux incendies criminels"

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...s-criminels.php


No English ? What happened A.M.? You have made me extremely interested in OC north of the border. You're a great poster my man.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/05/16 01:51 PM

Originally Posted By: BobbyPazzo
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Originally Posted By: antimafia
They're at it again.

This time one of the most storied locations in Montreal Mafia history.

"Le bar de danseuses Solid Gold visé par deux incendies criminels"

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...s-criminels.php


No English ? What happened A.M.? You have made me extremely interested in OC north of the border. You're a great poster my man.


Thanks, BP.

The reporter's story appears to me to be an exclusive, as one of the attacks happened a relatively long time ago (on September 2) and was likely being kept hush-hush by law enforcement. The journalist is probably the only crime reporter who was working on this story. There may be an English-language article that will come out and reference the one to which I linked.

Try using the link below for a Google Translate translation.

Translation
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/05/16 06:30 PM

"Several accused in case targeting alleged Mafia leaders renounce right to preliminary inquiry"

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...minary-inquiry/

------------

Some of the accused who do not want to attend all or part of the preliminary inquiry include Leonardo Rizzuto, Stefano Sollecito, and Alexandra Mongeau (Mom Boucher's daughter).
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/05/16 06:30 PM

Was Moreno Gallo's old headquarters. Interesting. Even a hint that Stefano Sollecito was supposed to take it over. Things will really get interesting if Stefano/Leonardo get out.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/05/16 06:36 PM

Here is the english translation of the Lapresse article.

The Solid Gold dancers bar has been in recent weeks the target of two arson that could be part of the infighting that persist within the Montreal Mafia, told by La Presse .
About 5pm on Wednesday of last week, the alarm system of the establishment in 8820, Saint-Laurent Boulevard sounded, calling the fire brigade on site. After examining the scene, the fire eventually discovered an incendiary device that was launched on the bar of the roof without causing much damage. They handed the file to their partners in the Arson Section of the Police Service of the City of Montreal (SPVM).
September 2, firefighters were called to a blazing vehicle in the parking lot of the establishment. They quickly extinguished the flames that ravaged the reported stolen vehicle, and entrusted the matter to the SPVM.
These two events have all the appearance of messages launched in the context of conflicts between the major factions of the Montreal Mafia since the natural death of the godfather Vito Rizzuto, in December 2013, and Magot Mastiff- police operation, which beheaded organized crime in Montreal on November 19.
The Solid Gold was once the headquarters of the influential Calabrian Moreno Gallo, a Mafia chieftain killed in an ambush in a restaurant in Acapulco, Mexico, in November 2013, presumably for his lack of loyalty to the Sicilians during detention of Vito Rizzuto in the United States.
A source reported in La Presse, that following the death of Gallo. Stefano Sollecito Acting boss of the Montreal Mafia that is currently charged as a result of Magot Mastiff-operation, would have taken control of the Solid Gold establishment, but information on this has not been confirmed by police.
One thing is sure, Gregory Woolley, gang leader arrest from the Magot Mastiff operation who is close to Sollecito and the Hells Angels, was regularly observed by police officers at Solid Gold before his arrest last November.
Arson investigators of SPVM will check if the two events in Solid Gold could be linked to the murders of Moreno Gallo and Rocco Sollecito, that occurred in June.
Both arsons may also be linked with Molotov cocktails launched in recent weeks on Bellerose cafes, Laval, and Empire, Montreal, Restaurant Le Liège in Park Extension, and the John and Dino business in St. Léonard.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/05/16 07:28 PM

Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
Was Moreno Gallo's old headquarters. Interesting. Even a hint that Stefano Sollecito was supposed to take it over. Things will really get interesting if Stefano/Leonardo get out.


Stefano is already at home because of his lung cancer.
Posted By: pmac

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/05/16 08:30 PM

Vito having that guy hit in mexico might have been his most impressive hit or order. Must have cost some $$$. Or gallos best friends set him up. Him have the spanish guy hit in sicily to.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/05/16 10:36 PM

Originally Posted By: Hollander
Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
Was Moreno Gallo's old headquarters. Interesting. Even a hint that Stefano Sollecito was supposed to take it over. Things will really get interesting if Stefano/Leonardo get out.


Stefano is already at home because of his lung cancer.


That's right, not sure what I was thinking.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/05/16 10:53 PM

Originally Posted By: pmac
Vito having that guy hit in mexico might have been his most impressive hit or order. Must have cost some $$$. Or gallos best friends set him up. Him have the spanish guy hit in sicily to.


Vito might have ordered the hit but there is another possibility that the Desjardins crew might of also had reasons to order the hit.
Prior to getting killed M.Gallo aligned himself with Montagna. According to a La Presse article, the police recorded a conversation between Desjardins and Mirarchi that they wanted to eliminate Montagna allies.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/06/16 01:56 PM

A suspect in the murder of Ferdinano Belmonte has been arrested in Kitchener, Ontario. It is the second link, below, that leads to a French-language article stating that Belmonte had ties to Rocco Sollecito.

"Kitchener man facing murder charge in Laval shooting death.
Laval police arrested a 29-year-old man they believe killed Ferdinando Belmonte this past summer"

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/f...tario-1.3793623

"Un suspect arrêté pour le meurtre de Ferdinando Belmonte"

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2016/10/06/un-suspect-arrete-pour-le-meurtre-de-ferdinando-belmonte
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/06/16 05:59 PM

http://www.vice.com/fr_ca/read/les-hells-angels-de-retour-en-affaires-au-quebec

According to Andre Cedilot organized crime expert, the Ontario Ndrangheta is now in control of Montreal and have formed at alliance with the Hells Angels. The Ontario Ndrangheta will handle the importation of drugs and the Hells will handle the distribution.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/06/16 06:30 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://www.vice.com/fr_ca/read/les-hells-angels-de-retour-en-affaires-au-quebec

According to Andre Cedilot organized crime expert, the Ontario Ndrangheta is now in control of Montreal and have formed at alliance with the Hells Angels. The Ontario Ndrangheta will handle the importation of drugs and the Hells will handle the distribution.


Wow..if true I wonder where the West End crew stands. Those guys need the port.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/06/16 07:41 PM

Cedilot has been proposing that theory for years. Back in 2010 he said the same, while we now know that the take-over came from groups within Montreal. I don't believe the Montreal Mafia, which comprises hundreds of associates, will allow Ontario to rule over them. The arguments that are now made against Bonanno influence also apply for Ontario.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/06/16 07:59 PM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Cedilot has been proposing that theory for years. Back in 2010 he said the same, while we now know that the take-over came from groups within Montreal. I don't believe the Montreal Mafia, which comprises hundreds of associates, will allow Ontario to rule over them. The arguments that are now made against Bonanno influence also apply for Ontario.


The Calabrians are only interested in drug and arms trafficking, the HA would be the best partner. They are not interested in controlling the Montreal streets I would think.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/06/16 08:00 PM

If all this is true, I don't believe it will change anything for the west end. Provided they cooperate with the new people.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/06/16 08:15 PM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Cedilot has been proposing that theory for years. Back in 2010 he said the same, while we now know that the take-over came from groups within Montreal. I don't believe the Montreal Mafia, which comprises hundreds of associates, will allow Ontario to rule over them. The arguments that are now made against Bonanno influence also apply for Ontario.


I agree with you back in 2010 they were saying the same thing because the Rizzuto clan were dealt with heavy casualties but things started to change in Rizzuto's favor when he was released in 2012. His rivals were dealt with heavy losses too. But now since 2015, the Rizzuto clan are being attacked once again but I do not see much retaliation. So there maybe some truth in what Cedilot is now saying.
It is just my impression of things.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/06/16 08:23 PM

Originally Posted By: Hollander
Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Cedilot has been proposing that theory for years. Back in 2010 he said the same, while we now know that the take-over came from groups within Montreal. I don't believe the Montreal Mafia, which comprises hundreds of associates, will allow Ontario to rule over them. The arguments that are now made against Bonanno influence also apply for Ontario.


The Calabrians are only interested in drug and arms trafficking, the HA would be the best partner. They are not interested in controlling the Montreal streets I would think.


I understand what your saying they will not have a big presence in the streets, they don't have to. But if you control the drugs you more or less control the rest.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/06/16 08:56 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: Hollander
Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Cedilot has been proposing that theory for years. Back in 2010 he said the same, while we now know that the take-over came from groups within Montreal. I don't believe the Montreal Mafia, which comprises hundreds of associates, will allow Ontario to rule over them. The arguments that are now made against Bonanno influence also apply for Ontario.


The Calabrians are only interested in drug and arms trafficking, the HA would be the best partner. They are not interested in controlling the Montreal streets I would think.


I understand what your saying they will not have a big presence in the streets, they don't have to. But if you control the drugs you more or less control the rest.


I think they would leave the local stuff to the Hells Angels, they have the men, those who survived the biker war and newcomers.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/06/16 09:18 PM


I agree with you.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/06/16 09:52 PM


It is not the translation of the full article. I only took the part that Mentions the Mafia and Ndrangheta:

The Mafia

While the Hells awaiting trial behind bars, Montreal Sicilian Mafia, once at the top of the criminal food chain in the province, was out routed. Incendiary bombs, killings, and reports of infighting had become almost weekly thing.
In the background, we witnessed the violent decline of the Rizzuto family and speculation about who might usurp its central role in the drug trade in the province.
For decades, the Hells have been a drug trafficking engine in Quebec, dealing with distribution throughout the province, while the Mafia was responsible for the import.
André Cédilot is a journalist and expert on organized crime that covers the criminal world in Quebec for over 40 years.
"Before the operation SharQc, the Hells Angels were at the head of the drug market with the Sicilian Mafia," said he told VICE. "The Mafia was responsible for import and Hells Angels were distributors. Internationally, the Mafia has a better reputation than the Hells Angels because the Colombians do not trust the Hells Angels, but they trust the Mafia. "
But now Cédilot said he sees a new alliance between the Hells Angels and the Calabrian Ndrangheta established in Ontario - a tectonic movement after four decades of Sicilian domination. "The Rizzuto family, I believe, is no longer the party," he said. "They do not have control right now, I can tell you that. The Calabrian have control now. "

The Ndrangheta

Following the decline of the Sicilian Mafia after years of infighting and arrests , the Calabrian mobsters of Ontario were able to settle in Montreal. But the Calabrians do not have the local connections or distribution networks but the Hells Angels do.The recent release of high-ranking Hells from prison couldn’t come at a better time for them and for criminal families from Ontario.
"The 'Ndrangheta of Ontario will have an influence in Montreal, much more than the Sicilians have now. It's a new partnership, "according Cédilot. "It is not yet in force, but I can tell you that it is preparing. "
Antonio Nicaso agrees. Nicaso is a professor and author of over 30 books on organized crime, including money or honor: the ultimate battle of Vito Rizzuto."When the Sicilians were in power [the 'Ndrangheta] never had the opportunity to settle in Montreal," he recounts. "It could be an opportunity for the Ndrangheta to form a strategic alliance with a local player. I believe that in future we will see a completely different picture emerge in the world of crime. "
"But there is also a huge opportunity for the biker group," he added. "The Hells Angels want to step it up," he said. "They want to be in direct contact with producers in Colombia, Peru and Bolivia. "
The possibility of an alliance Hells Angels-Ndrangheta, which remains to be confirmed, is a possibility that the SQ is conscious. "It's one of the theories that we contemplate," said Captain Guy Lapointe, adding that the SQ can not say more at the moment, since it does not comment on intelligence or investigations In progress.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/06/16 10:26 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
If all this is true, I don't believe it will change anything for the west end. Provided they cooperate with the new people.


Considering the ties between incarcerated West End leader Raymond Desfossés and the bikers that will probably be the case.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/06/16 11:49 PM

I got of hold of the english version Hells/Ndrangheta.

http://www.vice.com/en_ca/read/how-the-hells-angels-made-a-massive-comeback-in-quebec
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/07/16 04:20 AM

Ndrangheta has had the upper hand for awhile now, it's about who controls the connects, NOT MANPOWER.

Not the number of " MADE GUYS " or 500 associates. None of the associates or so called made guys have the connects that Ndrangheta have. The only one with the contacts and respect like that was Vito, which is why the strength died with him. All these guys are going to make deals with the new regime, take it to the bank...

I mean look at the post that was translated. Awhile back a guy made a post about the bikers in Canada, saying they were a power in Montreal or something. I said that if they made their own direct connect, they technically wouldn't even need the mafia. Now I didn't think the Colombians would deal with em, as they have long standing trust with Italians, but the Mexicans, I could see that.


It makes total sense that the Hells would want their own direct connect, that's what enables you to call shots. Look at all the manpower the Bikers had, and all the violence they were capable of. It got em to the table, but not the head seat.

The guy predicting this, or whatever, he's smart. I predicted this and I don't even follow Canada like that. I keep up with the drug trade, and if you got Mexicans everywhere in the US (exception NY, where the Dominicans have dominance, because the Colombians literally have to ship coke through their country, plus their neighborhood in NY hasn't gentrified yet that I know of) and Calabrians everywhere in Europe. Both these groups power is directly proportional to their ability to move narcotics across continents.

Now why did the Rizzutos take over? Drugs, they were the top Italian narcotics guys after the Gambino/Bonnano pizza connection unraveled. Vito going to jail in a US prison gave other groups time to make new connections, kinda like Galantes 12 year bid took him to far out of the loop. Those 12 years were the years Nicolo built his power, same way Vito's ten years away gave the Calabrians an opening to make moves.



Once the Caruana- Cun-Trera clan threw in with the Calabrians, the Rizzutos had serious problems. ( I see them as the Ochoas to the Rizzutos Escobar, I think they are the real power brokers there)


So Mexico=US, NY=Dominicans, Europe and Ontario = Calabrians.This means the Rizzutos Had only Quebec totally under their control. And this control was traditionally based on heroin, which was no longer the dominant force in narcotics, now it's coke. And the Calabrians and Mexicans control all the coke. So if you look at the GLOBAL PICTURE, they were already losing power fast.


I'm not making this shit up, just look at what's going on worldwide, it's the age of the Narcotic syndicate, has been for awhile now...
Posted By: IvyLeague

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/07/16 04:47 AM

I think to say NY=Dominicans is an over simplification.

The 2015 National Drug Threat Assessment reported that Mexican traffickers were expanding their operations to gain a larger share of Northeast markets and were now the most prominent wholesale-level heroin traffickers in the New Jersey, Philadelphia, and Washington, DC, and have greatly expanded their presence in the New York City area. Mexican organization were also said to be involved in wholesale cocaine distribution in the city. In New York City, Colombian organizations transported cocaine into the area and served as a primary source of wholesale quantities of cocaine. However, Mexican and Dominican trafficking organizations dominated the transportation of cocaine throughout the rest of New York State, limiting the role of Colombian organizations. Colombian organizations were also prominent transporters and distributors of wholesale quantities of heroin in New York City. It was also reported that Dominican traffickers were the dominant retail distributors of cocaine in the New York metropolitan area and both Colombian and Mexican TCOs relied on Dominican traffickers to assist in the transportation of heroin throughout New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Connecticut, and Massachusetts. In New Jersey, Dominican traffickers handled retail-level distribution of cocaine for Colombian TCOs and also supplied local street gangs, who handled street-level distribution.
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/07/16 06:36 AM

@Ivey

If you go through my post, you will see I already know all that. I mention the Dominicans cause guys on here like Pmac say they have like 95% of all the drugs. Rather than argue I just concede the point. ( I don't live in NY, not in tune with the everyday street life you know?) It doesn't change the greater scope of things being coke from Colombia, controlled by Mexicans and Italians from Europe. It's not as complicated as you are making it.

Like I know the Mexicans are in NY, Sinaloa is EVERY GODAMN WHERE IVEY lol. What was the post awhile ago about Sinaloa in upstate NY? Buffalo?
But even that makes you ask, Why did they pick Buffalo for a retail operation and not bigger NY?

I guess It's because there is no major stronghold there, ( Does NY have no Little Village?, or large Mexican area?, I find that hard to believe though....) from which to deal from. The Dominican presence gives em less leverage. It might have been more profitable to have 50%, 70% of the Buffalo trade instead of competing for 10% or less of the NY retail trade. I mean, like your post points out, they still have a lot of the wholesale trade. So a Mexican retail operation in Buffalo gives you a hint of how strong Dominican retail MUST BE IN NY. Mexico, having a land border with the US, can always get coke here cheaper, and with more flexibility, so they will always have MORE COKE than the Dominicans. On the flip side, going through the Dominicans gives the Colombians more negotiating leverage when getting coke into the US. So there is a balance of power that keeps Dominicans and Colombians in partnership, with the Mexicans constantly encroaching, as they maneuver closer and closer to the source countries for narcotics.


Again, it's why I kinda concede the point of Dominicans being dominant in NY, and the northeast. The Colombians kinda have a vested interest in doing business with em. I've described them as "Regional" , not whatever, intercontinental, or transnational, or whatever adjective describes moving drugs from Border to border, country to country.

Anyone following knows the Mexicans are pushing hard into heroin. Better refinement in Mexico, as well as imported fentanyl from China. 5000 for a kilo that you make 80 kilos out of? Something ridiculous like that I read somewhere... As well as producing meth on an industrial scale. Lots of overdoses in Chicago, check some of the Jersey threads and guys on there have lost a lotta friends recently behind heroin.

So everything in your post is true and 100% right, I've been following along. My post was more or less about connecting the power dynamics in Canada with the flow of narcotics. And a kinda central premise that THE RULES OF THE NARCOTICS TRADE TEND TO CLASH WITH TRADITIONAL MAFIA RULES AND PROTOCOL.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/07/16 10:44 AM

Time will tell if they can establish another "consortium" in Montreal.
Posted By: IvyLeague

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/08/16 04:24 AM

Except the Dominicans aren't dominant in NYC. They are a major part of the drug trade but they still basically middle men for the Colombians and Mexicans.
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/08/16 05:32 AM

Ivey, the fact that the Dominicans relatively call their own shot, does make them special from other groups. Like this exist ONLY in NY. Everywhere else in the US its Mexicans, period. As long as they get coke for 10 grand a Ki in the Dominican Republic, they will be pretty strong.


Also, like I said, guys from NY say the Dominicans have a lot of the trade, I mean I DONT LIVE IN NY. I don't wanna be an asshole an argue with a guy about what happens in his own city. Like take Philly or Jersey. I leave that to the Philly and Jersey guys like Serp or Bobby or Dante. They know their cities.

Case in point, the thread about the young Jersey guy moving coke for the DeCavalcantes. I was looking at the money he made, 78 grand from a half kilo.
Now Dante said that that basically the Gambinos give em orders and tell them what to do. Now in light of the Calabrian development, I asked what was the chance that the DeCavalcante crew was getting Calabrian coke through the Gambino family, what was the chance that they were like a new Cherry Hill crew moving coke In jersey for the Gambinos. I think it was Pmac who said no, the Dominicans have like 90% control.

Now, it seems weird that a NY mobster would get coke from Dominicans to me, but again I don't live there, they might do this everyday of the week for all I know.

The fact is this Ivey, the Colombians still control a good portion of the NY trade through the Dominicans, but the Mexican are relentless. I asked the question, is there a large Mexican enclave in NY like the Dominicans have? Cause if they did, like the Dominicans had in Washington Heights, they would already rule NYs drug trade too. It's also why I had the Buffalo example. Sinaloa doesn't even retail, ( they mostly wholesale from what I've read, but I'm sure they have more than a few operations around the country...) but they had a retail operation in BUFFALO? Why not Brooklyn? Or Queens? The Bronx? Then look at the distributors, street level black guys, Why not Hispanic traffickers? Makes you ask questions.....

Posted By: IvyLeague

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/08/16 06:55 AM

First, New York and the rest of the Northeast have been the last region the Mexicans have moved into simply because of geographic distance.

Second, the Mexicans face more competition from other groups in New York City than pretty much anywhere else in the country. There you not only have the Colombians and Dominicans, you also have Cubans, Jamaicans, Asians, as well as the Italians and others.

On a side note, somebody's knowledge based on simply living in an area only goes so far. One's zip code doesn't automatically afford them special insight on things. I can learn more from just reading the latest Drug Threat Assessment from the DEAD or HIDTA report than reading posts from a dozen New York posters on the boards.
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/08/16 12:29 PM

@Ivey

Seriously, how many times I gotta agree with you before you stop arguing about nothing?


We have had this convo before, you said NY was very competitive as far as narcotics, I said only at the street retail level. At the top it's a Colombian or a Mexican if you are in the US, and the ONLY place you will run into a Colombian, or Colombian proxy (Dominicans) is NY, and the Northeast. Why are you repeating literally my whole point, acting like I never said it?

My entire premise on drug clans, remember the Rizzuto/Fernandez questions, that thread? My whole thing was the Mexicans had the US, and Calabrians had Europe. So where did it leave the Rizzutos. Not for nothing but Ive been following the drugs, not counting up made guys or any of that.

And don't go and get silly on me. The Mexicans got thrown outta Spain years ago. Sinaloa is operational in Europe. They have been moving heavy narcotics since the early 90s maybe late 80s at least. You really believe they couldn't get drugs to NY because it's too far? Lol, Ivey you are talking about a truck, nothing more. ( watch Traffic, especially the part where he mentions NAFTA )They have the BORDER, coke comes into Chicago and goes EVERYWHERE. Carrillo was the " Lord of the Skies" way back when, they can't get coke to NY? Cause it's too far? Yet the whole reason they got big is that the COLOMBIANS could no longer reliably get coke through the Caribbean route, and trusted the Mexicans to get coke into the country. You don't seem to get that their WHOLE STRENGHT WAS BASED OFF TRANSPORTATION.


Im the one who told you before you can't control a city Like NY on the street level, it's too many corners/distribution points to try to control. Only ethnic enclaves like the old Italian Harlem where Ormento operated, as well as Pleaseant Ave. Nicky Barnes in Harlem, where you can sell in the streets. Otherwise you need a specific distribution points like Genovese with his midtown nightclubs, or the Pizza connection. You can only do it with supply, and the supply is controlled by Mexicans and Colombians. You brought up these other groups before, and this was the argument I gave you.


You started off in agreement in this thread, now you are reversing. We just established no one moves more coke than Mexicans and Colombian backed Dominicans in the US. But then you say, no the Dominicans aren't dominant NY, even though they are, cause none of these groups you mention have cocaine being shipped through their country. (Jamaica did in the past, Chinese? No. Maybe Cubans, but it can't be easy for them to get coke through Cuba into the US. And their stronghold is Miami, not NY. Aren't you labeled a defector or some shit if you leave?) You are not getting it, a Ki of coke in the Dominican Republic is 10 grand. Unless these groups go to Central America or something, they are NOT GETTING IT THAT CHEAP.

I just gave you a whole scenario with Sinaloa retailing in Buffalo, as an example of how intense it must be in NY if they set up shop there, not Brooklyn or somewhere. All those groups you mentioned, the ONLY ONE GROUP, that could compete with Mexican prices for coke, ARE DOMINICANS. The Chinese can't beat their prices, nor can any middle eastern group, or Russians, or Albanians, or Puerto Ricans, African Americans, Greeks, no one. And I was the one pointing out how the Calabrians didn't even attempt to move a GRAM of coke in NY, even though they have access to an avalanche of the shit.

Do you understand geographic distance is a big part of why cocaine cost what it does? The Mexicans would LOVE to supply Australia, it's like a hundred grand for a Ki. Again, the Dominicans been established in NY, they have a larger population there, and they pretty much can match Mexican prices. But the Mexicans have ACCESS TO MORE COCAINE THAN THEM. And more control over the coke they move.
Posted By: IvyLeague

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/08/16 07:09 PM

Originally Posted By: CabriniGreen
@Ivey

Seriously, how many times I gotta agree with you before you stop arguing about nothing?


We have had this convo before, you said NY was very competitive as far as narcotics, I said only at the street retail level. At the top it's a Colombian or a Mexican if you are in the US, and the ONLY place you will run into a Colombian, or Colombian proxy (Dominicans) is NY, and the Northeast. Why are you repeating literally my whole point, acting like I never said it?


There can be a number of wholesale levels between the the initial supply and retail levels.


Quote:
And don't go and get silly on me. The Mexicans got thrown outta Spain years ago. Sinaloa is operational in Europe. They have been moving heavy narcotics since the early 90s maybe late 80s at least. You really believe they couldn't get drugs to NY because it's too far? Lol, Ivey you are talking about a truck, nothing more. ( watch Traffic, especially the part where he mentions NAFTA )They have the BORDER, coke comes into Chicago and goes EVERYWHERE. Carrillo was the " Lord of the Skies" way back when, they can't get coke to NY? Cause it's too far? Yet the whole reason they got big is that the COLOMBIANS could no longer reliably get coke through the Caribbean route, and trusted the Mexicans to get coke into the country. You don't seem to get that their WHOLE STRENGHT WAS BASED OFF TRANSPORTATION.


You can go back and read law enforcement reports for the past 20 years. Which, by the way, is a better way to get an understanding of things than theorizing and pontificating or talking with posters on Internet forums. Generally speaking, earlier on it was the Mexicans in the western half of the country and the Colombians in the eastern half. As you go forward, year after year, you see a gradual movement eastward by Mexicans. It wasn't that long ago that they were only beginning to have a significant presence on the east coast. At first, it was more the lower half of the eastern seaboard, getting to the point where they were the dominant suppliers everywhere except Southern Florida where they were rivaled by the Colombians. You then see a move northward on the coast, and on the last few years they had become the top suppliers as far north as Philadelphia and South Jersey. Yet, even now, they don't have the same dominance in the rest of the Northeast like they do throughout the rest of the US. What else is the reason if not distance and competition?

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Im the one who told you before you can't control a city Like NY on the street level, it's too many corners/distribution points to try to control. Only ethnic enclaves like the old Italian Harlem where Ormento operated, as well as Pleaseant Ave. Nicky Barnes in Harlem, where you can sell in the streets. Otherwise you need a specific distribution points like Genovese with his midtown nightclubs, or the Pizza connection. You can only do it with supply, and the supply is controlled by Mexicans and Colombians. You brought up these other groups before, and this was the argument I gave you.

You started off in agreement in this thread, now you are reversing. We just established no one moves more coke than Mexicans and Colombian backed Dominicans in the US. But then you say, no the Dominicans aren't dominant NY, even though they are, cause none of these groups you mention have cocaine being shipped through their country. (Jamaica did in the past, Chinese? No. Maybe Cubans, but it can't be easy for them to get coke through Cuba into the US. And their stronghold is Miami, not NY. Aren't you labeled a defector or some shit if you leave?) You are not getting it, a Ki of coke in the Dominican Republic is 10 grand. Unless these groups go to Central America or something, they are NOT GETTING IT THAT CHEAP.


I'm not reversing anything. The Colombians and Mexicans, along with their Dominican wholesalers, certainly move the most drugs in the city but there are other groups who do supply lesser amounts, as well as provide competition at lower distribution levels. You would know this if you'd do more reading instead if just trying to theorize and read the tea leaves in your own. Cuban and Jamaican groups are significant suppliers of marijuana, for example. Asian groups supply marijuana too, as well as ecstasy. Read the 2009 NDTA or some other reports and you'll see Italian groups also facilitate movement of cocaine, marijuana, ecstasy, and heroin through POE's.

As important as Dominicans are, the definition of "dominant" (most important, powerful, or influential) does not accurately describe their position in the NYC drug trade. At least it's an over simplification, as I originally said.

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I just gave you a whole scenario with Sinaloa retailing in Buffalo, as an example of how intense it must be in NY if they set up shop there, not Brooklyn or somewhere. All those groups you mentioned, the ONLY ONE GROUP, that could compete with Mexican prices for coke, ARE DOMINICANS. The Chinese can't beat their prices, nor can any middle eastern group, or Russians, or Albanians, or Puerto Ricans, African Americans, Greeks, no one. And I was the one pointing out how the Calabrians didn't even attempt to move a GRAM of coke in NY, even though they have access to an avalanche of the shit.


Perhaps the difference is you're talking about cocaine alone while I'm talking about the entire drug trade.

Quote:
Do you understand geographic distance is a big part of why cocaine cost what it does? The Mexicans would LOVE to supply Australia, it's like a hundred grand for a Ki. Again, the Dominicans been established in NY, they have a larger population there, and they pretty much can match Mexican prices. But the Mexicans have ACCESS TO MORE COCAINE THAN THEM. And more control over the coke they move.


Wait, is that why a kilo of cocaine can sell for $2,000 in Peru, $10,000 in Mexico, and $30,000 on the US side of the border? Gee, thanks for the breaking news Cabrini. whistle
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/09/16 06:35 AM

Ivey, I'm seriously starting to wonder about you.......



First of all, I've kinda made a reputation as the poster who talks narcotics, BIG PERCENT OF THE TIME, yet you act like I haven't posted ad nauseum about all this shit, it's really funny. You are the one ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT FUCKIN GAMBLING LOL.. Like every time I bring up drugs it's always, " The five families have been marginalized" , " the biggest money maker is gambling", all of a sudden now here you go......

Remember the discussion about the Rizzutos, when I broke down how all or this shit revolves around the drug trade, I didn't hear any of this shit from you then, yet you think you know more about it than me now? Dude....


I read constantly, and everything, again, you act like you are the only person who knows how to read and interpret facts, and like your data or stats are the only thing that matters, you really kill me. And the funny thing is, you google Dominicans cocaine and NY, I mean, lol you act like this is all speculation or some shit, you don't have to take my word, wtf? And I'm sorry, but I gotta respect the word of a guy who lives In The city and sees what what.


You crack me up on the geography thing. I don't even think you know it's the Zeta cartel that most indentified with trafficking in NY. And it makes sense, they are based on the Gulf, all the states that border the Gulf are basically the same states at the end of the Caribbean route, Florida, Louisiana. The Gulf has 7 of the ten busiest ports in the US. Lots of camouflage for contraband. Now when you talk of the recent decline, like are you keeping up with Mexico? Lots of reports are that the Zetas are no longer operational. I JUST ASKED SMEARY ABOUT IT IN ONE OF HIS CARTEL THREADS, I DIDNT SEE BOO FROM YOU, NO POST NOTHING. Yet you act like you know now? Come on man..... You do realize I live in Chicago, Sinaloas home base. Where Zambadas son was locked up in the loop? Where the Flores brothers dealt thousands of kilos? You have any idea how many local articles have come out during even the last 10 years? Read a report, you gotta be kidding me....

The Dominicans are to coke on the east coast what Vietnamese gangs are to heroin and high grade weed on the west coast. Do a google, don't take my word for it, RESEARCH....

Edit: Also, I've READ reports, that coke seizures in the Caribbean are up the last couple years. This empowers Dominicans more than any other carribean crime group. This is something else I've mentioned, how the normalization of Cuban relations will lead to a more porous Caribbean route, and it puts pressure on the Mexicans to find more markets, again the push into the Northeast, it's ALL CONNECTED......



And you keep repeating shit I JUST SAID, like what is wrong with you? I just said the Mexicans are constantly encroaching, ON EVERYONES TERRITORY, MAN NOT JUST NY. Europe, Australia, Asia, these people are trying to position themselves all over the world. And here you go with some snarky comment, read the reports of the last 20 years, oh my god, give me a fuckin break. I grew up in an open air drug market, I don't need to consume every piece of literature to have a greater understanding of how this works.

Your sarcasm, lol "Wait is that why a Ki.." Look, if you understand all that I shouldn't have to explain why the Dominicans have leverage in NY, with the country being a transshipment point. It should be self evident.

You say, Read more, smh, LET ME ILLUSTRATE MY FRUSTRATION FOR YOU.
Remember this thread? It's about calculating the mafias total income, right?

http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=892984#Post892984


Now this guy says 24 bil for drugs, right? You go right along with this, as you can see from your responses right? But look at my last two post, it became clear to me I WAS THE ONLY POSTER WHO ACTUALLY READ THE THING.
Look at what is said on page 13......

Drug markets: estimating financial value
Illicit drug markets are complex systems of production and distribution that generate large sums of money at di erent levels. A conservative estimate values the retail market for illicit drugs in the European Union at EUR 24.3 billion in 2013 (likely range EUR 21 billion to EUR 31 billion). With an estimated retail value of EUR 9.3 billion (likely range EUR 8.4–12.9 billion), and responsible for about 38 % of the total, cannabis products account for the largest share of the illicit drug market in Europe. is is followed by heroin, estimated at EUR 6.8 billion (EUR 6.0–7.8 billion) (28 %), and cocaine at EUR 5.7 billion (EUR 4.5–7.0 billion) (24 %). Amphetamines occupy a smaller market share, estimated at EUR 1.8 billion (EUR 1.2–2.5 billion) (8 %), ahead of MDMA, at almost EUR 0.7 billion (EUR 0.61–0.72 billion) (3 %). These estimates are based on very limited data, which has necessitated some broad assumptions, and hence must be viewed as initial minimum estimates that need revision in the future, as the information underpinning them is improved.

So this was basically a bullshit, incomplete report. But I'm SURE you didn't READ the whole thing, just from your responses. You don't know the agenda behind this. The guy could be trying to downplay the official report to make Europe look better, to attract more foreign investment or who the fuck knows what.

Now take this one, which I can't help but notice I don't see you in......

http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=894721#Post894721


They are saying they seized 35000 kilos in a year. Like there are 35000 kilos in a room somewhere, that you can touch with your hands. And this might be a quarter of what was shipped they say. The retail value of this is like at least triple what they estimated for ALL NARCOTICS, and this is just cocaine. Don't tell me I don't read man.

I pay attention to EVERYTHING. When I see BlackFam post about an Atlanta hustler with an organization stretching to Boston, supplied by Mexicans, it proposes a question in my head, What Cartel? I see something like that and it makes me question the shit I read earlier about the Zetas being dismantled, see what I mean? When I see the cartel in Costa Rica working with the Calabrians, I wonder, what cartel is that? You can't understand what's happening with the Italians, if you pay no attention to South and Central America. What's happening in South America affects the criminal landscape of NY, Canada and the Entirety of Europe, GLOBALIZATION, it's what I'm talking about. YOU ONLY LOOK AT NY AND THINK YOU GOT THE WHOLE PICTURE, you don't......

Alright thats enough for one night, good lord man you bring out the debater in me lol
Posted By: IvyLeague

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/09/16 05:57 PM

Originally Posted By: CabriniGreen
Ivey, I'm seriously starting to wonder about you.......



First of all, I've kinda made a reputation as the poster who talks narcotics, BIG PERCENT OF THE TIME, yet you act like I haven't posted ad nauseum about all this shit, it's really funny. You are the one ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT FUCKIN GAMBLING LOL.. Like every time I bring up drugs it's always, " The five families have been marginalized" , " the biggest money maker is gambling", all of a sudden now here you go......


And what I said is all true. You can look at narcotics alone if you want, and it certainly is the most lucrative racket in terms of total dollars, but not for the LCN. Gambling is a bigger money maker for the American mob, not because it's more lucrative than drugs, but because the mob has more involvement and control in gambling than it does in the drug trade.

Quote:
Remember the discussion about the Rizzutos, when I broke down how all or this shit revolves around the drug trade, I didn't hear any of this shit from you then, yet you think you know more about it than me now? Dude....


If you mean the conflict in Montreal revolved around the drug trade, I would agree.

Quote:
I read constantly, and everything, again, you act like you are the only person who knows how to read and interpret facts, and like your data or stats are the only thing that matters, you really kill me. And the funny thing is, you google Dominicans cocaine and NY, I mean, lol you act like this is all speculation or some shit, you don't have to take my word, wtf? And I'm sorry, but I gotta respect the word of a guy who lives In The city and sees what what.


I'm not saying those in a given area don't have something to offer. But their knowledge is going to be on an anecdotal, micro level. In terms of big picture, there are far better sources than some dude on an Internet message board. And, having been on these forums for over 10 years now, I can tell you you'll get a better idea of things by going with official info than some guy's 2 cents.

Quote:
You crack me up on the geography thing. I don't even think you know it's the Zeta cartel that most indentified with trafficking in NY. And it makes sense, they are based on the Gulf, all the states that border the Gulf are basically the same states at the end of the Caribbean route, Florida, Louisiana. The Gulf has 7 of the ten busiest ports in the US. Lots of camouflage for contraband. Now when you talk of the recent decline, like are you keeping up with Mexico? Lots of reports are that the Zetas are no longer operational. I JUST ASKED SMEARY ABOUT IT IN ONE OF HIS CARTEL THREADS, I DIDNT SEE BOO FROM YOU, NO POST NOTHING. Yet you act like you know now? Come on man..... You do realize I live in Chicago, Sinaloas home base. Where Zambadas son was locked up in the loop? Where the Flores brothers dealt thousands of kilos? You have any idea how many local articles have come out during even the last 10 years? Read a report, you gotta be kidding me....


I'm not sure why you assume if I don't post in a certain thread, I'm not familiar with the topic. I'm become a lot more busy in the last few years and I have to be more selective about posting. Typically the titles of Smeary's threads are enough to make me skip them.

As far as the rest of what you said above, you are all over the place. You living in Chicago is irrelevant to this discussion. And I'm not sure what point you're trying to make about the Zetas in relation to New York and the rest of the Northeast being the last region of the country the Mexicans don't have dominance over.

Quote:
The Dominicans are to coke on the east coast what Vietnamese gangs are to heroin and high grade weed on the west coast. Do a google, don't take my word for it, RESEARCH....


Again, nobody said the Dominicans aren't very significant on the East Coast drug trade. I simply said you saying "Dominicans=NY" is an oversimplification and them being "dominant" isn't true, at least as far as the definition of that word goes.

Quote:
And you keep repeating shit I JUST SAID, like what is wrong with you? I just said the Mexicans are constantly encroaching, ON EVERYONES TERRITORY, MAN NOT JUST NY. Europe, Australia, Asia, these people are trying to position themselves all over the world. And here you go with some snarky comment, read the reports of the last 20 years, oh my god, give me a fuckin break. I grew up in an open air drug market, I don't need to consume every piece of literature to have a greater understanding of how this works.


You do need to read to get a more macro, big picture idea of things. Your personal, anecdotal experiences won't give you that.

Quote:
Your sarcasm, lol "Wait is that why a Ki.." Look, if you understand all that I shouldn't have to explain why the Dominicans have leverage in NY, with the country being a transshipment point. It should be self evident.


But you didn't say Dominicans "have leverage" in New York. You said "Dominicans=NY" and they're "dominant." Not the same thing.

Quote:
You say, Read more, smh, LET ME ILLUSTRATE MY FRUSTRATION FOR YOU.
Remember this thread? It's about calculating the mafias total income, right?

http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=892984#Post892984


Now this guy says 24 bil for drugs, right? You go right along with this, as you can see from your responses right? But look at my last two post, it became clear to me I WAS THE ONLY POSTER WHO ACTUALLY READ THE THING.
Look at what is said on page 13......

Drug markets: estimating financial value
Illicit drug markets are complex systems of production and distribution that generate large sums of money at di erent levels. A conservative estimate values the retail market for illicit drugs in the European Union at EUR 24.3 billion in 2013 (likely range EUR 21 billion to EUR 31 billion). With an estimated retail value of EUR 9.3 billion (likely range EUR 8.4–12.9 billion), and responsible for about 38 % of the total, cannabis products account for the largest share of the illicit drug market in Europe. is is followed by heroin, estimated at EUR 6.8 billion (EUR 6.0–7.8 billion) (28 %), and cocaine at EUR 5.7 billion (EUR 4.5–7.0 billion) (24 %). Amphetamines occupy a smaller market share, estimated at EUR 1.8 billion (EUR 1.2–2.5 billion) (8 %), ahead of MDMA, at almost EUR 0.7 billion (EUR 0.61–0.72 billion) (3 %). These estimates are based on very limited data, which has necessitated some broad assumptions, and hence must be viewed as initial minimum estimates that need revision in the future, as the information underpinning them is improved.

So this was basically a bullshit, incomplete report. But I'm SURE you didn't READ the whole thing, just from your responses. You don't know the agenda behind this. The guy could be trying to downplay the official report to make Europe look better, to attract more foreign investment or who the fuck knows what.


I realize the report isnt exhaustive or complete. One thing that stuck out from the start was the lack of estimates of not only other illicit activities but also legitimate businesses. I simply said I found those conservative estimates to be closer to the truth than the more extreme figures we often see published.

Quote:
I pay attention to EVERYTHING. When I see BlackFam post about an Atlanta hustler with an organization stretching to Boston, supplied by Mexicans, it proposes a question in my head, What Cartel? I see something like that and it makes me question the shit I read earlier about the Zetas being dismantled, see what I mean? When I see the cartel in Costa Rica working with the Calabrians, I wonder, what cartel is that? You can't understand what's happening with the Italians, if you pay no attention to South and Central America. What's happening in South America affects the criminal landscape of NY, Canada and the Entirety of Europe, GLOBALIZATION, it's what I'm talking about. YOU ONLY LOOK AT NY AND THINK YOU GOT THE WHOLE PICTURE, you don't.....


Some of what's going on globally affects things in New York, other things not so much. The drug trade, which you focus on, certainly. This involves people from other countries moving drugs and money across international borders.

But when we're talking about the NY Mafia, which is what I assume you are referring to when you mention New York, drugs are only one factor and not the most important one. Understanding the mob's current position in the drug trade alone, or having a good idea of the drug trade on a global basis alone, isn't going to give you a complete or necessarily accurate idea of the current overall state of the NY mob. Things you seem to overlook or not consider that important or maybe just boring, such as membership, are more crucial.
Posted By: pmac

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/09/16 07:06 PM

Dominicans are very transient. Travling from nyc to where ever they call home next. Just in mass boston worcester springfield they live in all and travel to them all there biggest community outside of washington heights is Lawrence ma which is on the nh border close to the ocean. Herion coke pipeline. And ive come to find out they work hand n hand with the mexicans. Just look at the huge busts in the last year. Little of both.
Posted By: DiLorenzo

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/09/16 08:17 PM

Ever see this video of Vic Cotroni ??

[video:youtube]https://youtu.be/RJsm0IhsJfo[/video]
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/10/16 01:06 AM

Thats from the "Connections" series. They caught him off guard, and basically bombarded him with questions. There's a story in the James Dubro book, Mob Rule. Where they tried to do that once outside one of his social clubs and had guys with camera's and mics hiding in a van outside. Cotroni basically lured the interviewer into the club without his camera crew, and the author explains that the host saw a bunch of shadowy figures and they were all Cotroni soldiers, they basically surrounded the guy under Cotroni's orders, chased him out the club and had the film crew scared to move the van because the guys knew they were inside. Funny shit.
Posted By: Mick2010

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/10/16 03:59 PM

Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
Thats from the "Connections" series. They caught him off guard, and basically bombarded him with questions. There's a story in the James Dubro book, Mob Rule. Where they tried to do that once outside one of his social clubs and had guys with camera's and mics hiding in a van outside. Cotroni basically lured the interviewer into the club without his camera crew, and the author explains that the host saw a bunch of shadowy figures and they were all Cotroni soldiers, they basically surrounded the guy under Cotroni's orders, chased him out the club and had the film crew scared to move the van because the guys knew they were inside. Funny shit.


i believe that story youre refering to is actually about the commissos in toronto. Remo Commisso at the casa commisso which was on keele st. near either lawrence or st. clair.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/16/16 12:54 AM

Vincenzo Spagnolo has been murdered in Laval. Yet another mobster killed who has ancestry descending from Cattolica Eraclea.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/16/16 12:57 AM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2016/10/15/le-mafieux-vincenzo-spagnolo-abattu-a-laval

Translation:

Saturday, October 15, 2016 8:20 p.m.
Update Saturday, October 15, 2016 8:20 p.m.
LAVAL - The mafia... Vincenzo Spagnolo was shot dead in the Vimont district of Laval late Saturday afternoon, learned our Bureau of Investigation.
He was taken to hospital where his death was confirmed.
Spagnolo was a close friend of the former godfather of the Montreal Mafia Vito Rizzuto. He has been a confidant and right arm of Rizzuto when the latter returned from his prison in Colorado.
An investigation is underway to determine the exact circumstances of the murder. This is the service of the investigation of crimes against the person of the Sûreté du Québec who took the matter in hand.
Sergeant Audrey-Anne Bilodeau, spokesperson for the SQ, rushed to the scene to maintain relations with the media, did not confirm the identity of the person shot dead Saturday on Laval territory, limiting itself to saying that he is a man in his sixties and could be subject to "a settling of accounts linked to organized crime."

"The man was suffering from at least one gun shot at his residence," said Ms. Bilodeau, adding that the event occurred on the street Antoine-Forestier 17 to 30 h.
The name of Vincenzo Spagnolo was mentioned in documents from the Colosseum project, which were presented in the framework of the Commission on the award of contract in construction.
In these documents, including one said he was present at the wedding ceremony of Giulia Arcadi, daughter of the former head of the Mafia interim, Francesco Arcadi.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/16/16 01:02 AM



Wow..one of the leaders it never stops.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/16/16 01:30 AM

I know, nobody wants to wave the white flag.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/16/16 01:42 AM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
I know, nobody wants to wave the white flag.


That he became a target is a bit suprising he always kept a low profile, running a restaurant.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/16/16 03:11 AM

Originally Posted By: Hollander


Wow..one of the leaders it never stops.


You might have been thinking of Vincenzo Spagnolo's son.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/16/16 04:47 AM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...tue-a-laval.php

translation:

The mafioso Vincenzo Spagnolo, former right-hand man and friend of the deceased godfather Vito Rizzuto, was killed Saturday night in Laval.
For now, we ignore the circumstances of the crime. It seems that Vincenzo Spagnolo, who had just celebrated his 65th birthday, was at home on the Antoine-Forestier Street in the Vimont district, when he was hit by gunfire around 17:30. He was taken to hospital where his death was confirmed. Since this is a murder linked to organized crime, the Laval police handed the case to their colleagues in the Crimes against the person of the Sûreté du Québec.
Vincenzo Spagnolo was the best friend and confidant of Vito Rizzuto, the former godfather of the Montreal Mafia died naturally in December 2013. Some sources even claim that the two men were cousins. Vincenzo Spagnolo was one of those who had received the godfather in Toronto in October 2012, when Vito Rizzuto returned to Canada after spending six years in US jails for his involvement in the murders of three captains of the Bonanno clan committed New York in 1981.
While he was in prison in Quebec, waiting to be extradited to the United States, Vito Rizzuto called Vincenzo Spagnolo almost as much as his wife, reveals the book Mafia Inc. journalists André Noël and André Cédilot.
After the arrest of Vito Rizzuto for a case of 32 tons of hashish seized off Sept-Îles in 1988, Vincenzo Spagnolo was willing to pay a million dollars for the deposit of his friend, also recall Cédilot and Andre Noel.
Spagnolo had owned a reception hall named buffet Roma . According to our information, he was also a silent owner of Romcafé Laval, a place where Vito Rizzuto had made his headquarters during his bloody return to power in fall 2012 and winter 2013. Spagnolo also controlled, at least until recently, Bellerose coffee, another head quarter for the Sicilian clan of Laval which targeted by a Molotov cocktail in the last few weeks.
In January 2003, Vincenzo Spagnolo was among seven companions-among them Giuseppe Di Maulo and Francesco Arcadi- who made a golf trip with Vito Rizzuto in the Dominican Republic, while they were closely monitored by the investigators of police operation “Colosse”, anti-mafia investigation.
In October 2014, several individuals linked to Sicilian Clan gathered at Buonanotte restaurant to celebrate the birthday of Vincenzo Spagnolo when police squad “Eclipse” invited themselves at the party.
Although he was very present in the entourage of the former godfather, Vincenzo Spagnolo was not recognized as being very involved in the criminal operations of the clan. Sources noted that he was to Vito Rizzuto what Gaetan Gosselin was for Raynald Desjardins, and Vincenzo Scuderi, for the deceased clan chief Giuseppe De Vito. Scuderi and Gosselin, men of confidence and friend of De Vito and Desjardins, two rivals of the Sicilians, were killed during the return to power of Vito Rizzuto winter 2013. "The death of Spagnolo is the same message. Some see it that way. Your reign is over (Sicilians), let go, "said one observer in the know to La Presse .
Spagnolo death could have a moral impact on the remaining members of the Rizzuto clan. Sources had told La Presse that Raynald Desjardins was particularly moved by the death of his friend Gaetan Gosselin.
One thing is certain, the systematic extermination of the Sicilian clan seems to continue, even after the assassinations of Vito Rizzuto last lieutenant , Rocco Sollecito, in May, and Lorenzo Giordano in March. Recalling events a few weeks ago, Molotov cocktails were thrown at the Bellerose coffee and also at Empire bar, another stronghold of the Rizzuto on Jean-Talon Street in Montreal.
Officially, however, the police still considers Stefano Sollecito, the son of Rocco Sollecito, as the head of the Montreal Mafia, and that the latter is still predominantly Sicilian, but things are slowly changing.
The son of Vincenzo Spagnolo, Nicola, had served on the mafia management table before it broke out following the death of Rocco Sollecito.
To join Daniel Renaud confidentially, call (514) 285-7000, extension 4918, or write to the postal address of La Presse.
Posted By: SonnyBlackstein

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/16/16 05:34 AM

Great posts Ciment and Antimafia.

Appreciated gents.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/16/16 11:13 AM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
Originally Posted By: Hollander


Wow..one of the leaders it never stops.


You might have been thinking of Vincenzo Spagnolo's son.


Yes I thought Nicola, but the Spagnolos go back a long way that whole family is important.
Posted By: BobbyPazzo

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/16/16 12:29 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...tue-a-laval.php

translation:

The mafioso Vincenzo Spagnolo, former right-hand man and friend of the deceased godfather Vito Rizzuto, was killed Saturday night in Laval.
For now, we ignore the circumstances of the crime. It seems that Vincenzo Spagnolo, who had just celebrated his 65th birthday, was at home on the Antoine-Forestier Street in the Vimont district, when he was hit by gunfire around 17:30. He was taken to hospital where his death was confirmed. Since this is a murder linked to organized crime, the Laval police handed the case to their colleagues in the Crimes against the person of the Sûreté du Québec.
Vincenzo Spagnolo was the best friend and confidant of Vito Rizzuto, the former godfather of the Montreal Mafia died naturally in December 2013. Some sources even claim that the two men were cousins. Vincenzo Spagnolo was one of those who had received the godfather in Toronto in October 2012, when Vito Rizzuto returned to Canada after spending six years in US jails for his involvement in the murders of three captains of the Bonanno clan committed New York in 1981.
While he was in prison in Quebec, waiting to be extradited to the United States, Vito Rizzuto called Vincenzo Spagnolo almost as much as his wife, reveals the book Mafia Inc. journalists André Noël and André Cédilot.
After the arrest of Vito Rizzuto for a case of 32 tons of hashish seized off Sept-Îles in 1988, Vincenzo Spagnolo was willing to pay a million dollars for the deposit of his friend, also recall Cédilot and Andre Noel.
Spagnolo had owned a reception hall named buffet Roma . According to our information, he was also a silent owner of Romcafé Laval, a place where Vito Rizzuto had made his headquarters during his bloody return to power in fall 2012 and winter 2013. Spagnolo also controlled, at least until recently, Bellerose coffee, another head quarter for the Sicilian clan of Laval which targeted by a Molotov cocktail in the last few weeks.
In January 2003, Vincenzo Spagnolo was among seven companions-among them Giuseppe Di Maulo and Francesco Arcadi- who made a golf trip with Vito Rizzuto in the Dominican Republic, while they were closely monitored by the investigators of police operation “Colosse”, anti-mafia investigation.
In October 2014, several individuals linked to Sicilian Clan gathered at Buonanotte restaurant to celebrate the birthday of Vincenzo Spagnolo when police squad “Eclipse” invited themselves at the party.
Although he was very present in the entourage of the former godfather, Vincenzo Spagnolo was not recognized as being very involved in the criminal operations of the clan. Sources noted that he was to Vito Rizzuto what Gaetan Gosselin was for Raynald Desjardins, and Vincenzo Scuderi, for the deceased clan chief Giuseppe De Vito. Scuderi and Gosselin, men of confidence and friend of De Vito and Desjardins, two rivals of the Sicilians, were killed during the return to power of Vito Rizzuto winter 2013. "The death of Spagnolo is the same message. Some see it that way. Your reign is over (Sicilians), let go, "said one observer in the know to La Presse .
Spagnolo death could have a moral impact on the remaining members of the Rizzuto clan. Sources had told La Presse that Raynald Desjardins was particularly moved by the death of his friend Gaetan Gosselin.
One thing is certain, the systematic extermination of the Sicilian clan seems to continue, even after the assassinations of Vito Rizzuto last lieutenant , Rocco Sollecito, in May, and Lorenzo Giordano in March. Recalling events a few weeks ago, Molotov cocktails were thrown at the Bellerose coffee and also at Empire bar, another stronghold of the Rizzuto on Jean-Talon Street in Montreal.
Officially, however, the police still considers Stefano Sollecito, the son of Rocco Sollecito, as the head of the Montreal Mafia, and that the latter is still predominantly Sicilian, but things are slowly changing.
The son of Vincenzo Spagnolo, Nicola, had served on the mafia management table before it broke out following the death of Rocco Sollecito.
To join Daniel Renaud confidentially, call (514) 285-7000, extension 4918, or write to the postal address of La Presse.

You don't have to agree with the shit that's going down up there but you gotta respect it. These guys play the game for real. Great posts guys.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/16/16 05:35 PM

Seems to be a revenge killing that could be related back to Vito Rizzuto's return in 2012.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/16/16 06:08 PM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Seems to be a revenge killing that could be related back to Vito Rizzuto's return in 2012.


He was Vito's closest friend.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/16/16 09:25 PM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...-sa-demeure.php

Translation:

CHRISTIANE DESJARDINS
La Presse
It was 5:25 p.m. on this sunny Saturday in October. Vincenzo Spagnolo and his wife were in their home Vimont. Someone rang the doorbell.The man of 65, former right hand of the deceased godfather Vito Rizzuto, went to open the door. To his misfortune, he was shot several times. At least eight, which left him with no chance.
This is, in summary, is what happened Saturday on Antoine-Forestier Street, according to a source. The suspect is a man with dark skin of about 25, who was wearing a black coat with a hood. The Sûreté du Québec, however, refused to confirm or deny this information.
The assassination of Vincenzo Spagnolo is in what appears to be the systematic extermination of the Sicilian mafia. Earlier this year in May, Rocco Sollecito met the same fate. A month earlier, in March, it was Lorenzo Giordano that had been eliminated.
Mr. Spagnolo was very close to the big boss of the Mafia, Vito Rizzuto, before he dies of natural causes in hospital in December 2013. Mr. Spagnolo is one of those who welcomed Mr. Rizzuto in Toronto during his return to Canada in 2012. the latter was returning home after serving six years in prison in the US for his involvement in the murders of three mobsters committed in 1981 in New York.
Mr. Spagnolo has owned halls, including Roma Buffet. Reportedly, he was silent owner Romcafé Laval, where Vito Rizzuto was holding his headquarters in 2012 and 2013, during the bloody resumption of power. Mr. Spagnolo also controlled, at least until recently, Bellerose coffee, another stronghold of Sicilian Clan in Laval. It was the target of a Molotov cocktail, a few weeks ago. In Montreal, the Empire bar, another stronghold of the Rizzuto, was also the target of Molotov cocktails

Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/16/16 09:48 PM

Mob expert Antonio Nicaso told CJAD News one thing's not clear.
"If this is an internal war between what remains of the Rizzuto crime family or it's something guided or inspired from another criminal organization who tried to gain more power in Montreal", said Nicaso. Nicaso added external crime groups trying to expand their power include, organized crime in Ontario, the Hells Angels or other street gangs.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/16/16 11:15 PM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Seems to be a revenge killing that could be related back to Vito Rizzuto's return in 2012.


I think you're right. I also think that a lot of the murders during certain periods of the war are revenge killings. Which could mean more retaliatory attacks, a recent example of which might be the two attacks on Solid Gold, which was Moreno Gallo's old stomping grounds; other future retaliatory attacks, of course, would be more murders that have yet to be avenged. The guys in Montreal often seem ready to pull the trigger and to avenge murders relatively quickly or at least when the opportunity presents itself (which may mean a few years later).
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/16/16 11:28 PM

http://globalnews.ca/news/3006159/suspected-mafioso-vincenzo-spagnolo-gunned-down-in-laval/

http://montreal.ctvnews.ca/former-rizzut...mp;_gsc=82uTk6f

Here more news articles.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/17/16 12:50 AM

Originally Posted By: Hollander
Mob expert Antonio Nicaso told CJAD News one thing's not clear.
"If this is an internal war between what remains of the Rizzuto crime family or it's something guided or inspired from another criminal organization who tried to gain more power in Montreal", said Nicaso. Nicaso added external crime groups trying to expand their power include, organized crime in Ontario, the Hells Angels or other street gangs.


The fall of the Rizzuto dynasty, or le clan sicilien, was first mentioned in newspaper articles in early 2010, correct? And is now being written about again in the media. But the attacks on members of the Montreal Mafia hierarchy over the years of the most recent war have claimed victims who were non-Sicilians in the group, i.e., Rocco Sollecito (the leader of the so-called "Sicilian clan"?!) and Lorenzo Giordano. And many of us have speculated since 2010 or 2011 that Francesco Arcadi (Calabrian) has had a target on his back all these years because of, among other possible reasons, his very important position in the Rizzuto organization. Sollecito and Arcadi had important connections in Italy, and one wonders whether Sollecito's died with him and whether Arcadi's are crucially relevant to a possible ascension to power once he's out of prison for good. (Daniel Renaud considers Stefano Sollecito to be officially, on paper, the current leader of the Montreal Mafia; I will write something about Stefano soon in the Rizzuto associate "Joe Bravo" resurfaces in Sicily thread.)

Keep in mind, as well, that the murder of Angelo D'Onofrio in early June of this year was considered a case of mistaken identity--the supposed target was Tony Vanelli, a stalwart in the old Cotroni-Violi group who, like many in this group, did not even have Calabrian ancestry. So then the media speculation was that anyone considered part of the old guard was being targeted by the new guard.

The leader in Montreal of the so-called "Calabrian faction," or le clan calabrais, is the French-Canadian Raynald Desjardins (who, in my opinion, still wields a lot of influence from prison).

After Paolo Violi was murdered in January 1978, the FBI identified Joe Di Maulo one to six months after Violi's death as the acting leader of the Montreal Mafia. Di Maulo's ancestry was from Campobasso in Molise, not from Calabria. So if the FBI intelligence was correct, there is a precedent that an acting leader of the Montreal Mafia has been neither Sicilian nor Calabrian for at least just a short period of time. If an individual does emerge after the current mob war as someone who will be recognized universally or by most as the Montreal godfather, he need not have Sicilian or Calabrian ancestry; I wouldn't be surprised if this person has ancestry from another region in Italy. But I doubt this will be someone from outside of Montreal.

Canada's three largest commercial marine ports are to be found in Montreal, Halifax, and Vancouver--it is the last that is the principal marine gateway into Canada, not Montreal. Although the Port of Montreal is still strategically important for Canadian organized-crime groups involved in drug trafficking, it isn't the only Canadian port used by such groups. Over the decades, the Rizzuto organization, for example, has used the Port of Halifax. The Siderno Group in the Greater Toronto Area does not need "control" of the Port of Montreal.

Some current newspaper stories about what the killing of the recently murdered Vincenzo Spagnolo means are citing Mafia inc. co-author André Cédilot's theory that the "Calabrian faction" in Montreal, along with influence from the Ontario 'ndrangheta and the Hells Angels, is behind the current mayhem. But Cédilot and his co-author are the ones who misidentified the ancestry of a number of important Montreal Mafia figures and other criminals in their 2010 book; the authors also made other significant errors that, to me, reveal a lack of understanding of the history and relationship between the Italian underworlds of Toronto and Montreal. One retired Sûreté du Québec (SQ) officer, John Galianos, is quoted in a recent article about Spagnolo's murder as follows: "It could be some of the younger guys or from the opposing group in Toronto who is trying to take over, the Paolo Violi group,” Galianos said. “His sons are in Ontario and taking care of things there, there is some sort of revenge going on.” The problem is, there is no Paolo Violi group in Toronto. The Luppino-Violi group in Hamilton is assumed to be a 'ndrina--and that's my take on it too after all these years--although it's worth noting that, significantly, Giacomo Luppino was caught saying in a bugged conversation that there are no mafia indoctrination rites or ceremonies (he was laughing at a TV portrayal of such rites).

What is laughable is that the theory of a takeover of the Montreal Mafia by Calabrian crime groups in Ontario has been strongest when Vito Rizzuto was imprisoned and after his death. So when he was alive and out of prison, the whole of the Canadian 'ndrangheta, it seems, was unable to make good on its mission to take over Montreal. Does that say something about the power of the Greater Toronto Area Siderno Group?

I am very intrigued about which individuals or groups could be behind the high-profile murders of Sollecito and Giordano because, insofar as the two killings are related--I think those two were targeted because they were on the same side but I can't be sure--the possible suggestion is that the individuals or groups behind the murders are far more powerful than Sollecito and Giordano ever were. But of course this isn't the only possibility--maybe a smaller unknown faction is responsible; maybe what is left of a certain faction in the mob war is redoubling its efforts; maybe alliances are being forged between groups previously opposed to each other. Time will tell.
Posted By: pmac

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/17/16 01:14 AM

My last piece on this. Its all fucked up there fighting over greed. Theres nothing orgnized in montreal anymore. Maybe the bikers but the lcn american style is done. There just like the cartel in mexico killing over turf and shipments spots. Theres no joey merlino type guy up there recruiting young guys to prick there finger and say the magic oath. Even the guy sal the iron worker who probaly thought thts what he was going to do gun smoke buy abunch or drugs guys. And died in a river. Im not saying them other 2 mafia groups from italy are not there but the john gotti burn a saint in your hand thing is probaly a thing of the past died with rizzuto. After vito seen his father dead and sons whacked he probaly had no faith in la cosa nostra. He even hit his friend in the driveway di maulo. Thats a nono.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/17/16 01:16 AM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Seems to be a revenge killing that could be related back to Vito Rizzuto's return in 2012.


I think you're right. I also think that a lot of the murders during certain periods of the war are revenge killings. Which could mean more retaliatory attacks, a recent example of which might be the two attacks on Solid Gold, which was Moreno Gallo's old stomping grounds; other future retaliatory attacks, of course, would be more murders that have yet to be avenged.


Are you suggesting that the attacks on Solid Gold were retaliatory attacks by the old Rizzuto group for recent murders or do I misinterpret?

It seems like we have as much clue on who's behind this as we did in 2010. Apparantly people are bringing up old theories like Paolo Violi's sons trying to take over, which I'm extremely sceptic about. I think a more viable theory is that Arcadi is making a powerplay with backing from Ontario. A more frightning theory is that Giordano, Arcadi and Sollecito were on the same side and are being killed off by another group. It feels too convenient thinking about people loyal to Desjardins and De Vito. It also seems like the old Di Maulo-Cotroni group is still on good terms with the 'Sicillians' because Carmine Vanelli was seen at Sollecito's funeral, but that may not mean much.
Posted By: pmac

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/17/16 01:23 AM

I would definitely thing the violi family kids who watched there father get sniper killed at the dinner table are suspects in nicolo rizutto death its like the same exact shit 30yrs later and what a sweet revenge. But it probaly to throw the target at them also smart
Posted By: Giacomo_Vacari

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/17/16 07:11 AM

Frank Arcadi is the boss. Frank Cotroni Jr, and Leonard Rizzuto both called peace.
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/17/16 07:31 AM

@ anti mafia

Great post, I have a couple of questions.....



You mention the different ports. The way I see it, the Montreal port was valuable when the primary destination for drugs was New York. Also, the original source was the French Connection, and Montreal does have the French component. When it became a Sicilian connection, and then later, Thai and Chinese, and Irish, and South American, this component was probably less important. When they kinda severed ties with NY, and it became about moving the drugs IN Canada and Europe, then it was only important to get the drugs INTO Canada. Might this explain why as time went on the Rizzuto clan and other crime groups use the other ports more?


On all the killings: I said before, I thought that the " Made" guys are the blood relatives, marriage alliances. Could there be a purging of the BLOOD RELATIVES more so than say, based on ethnic lines like Sicilian or Calabrian? Also' what do think about the possibility that we are seeing the different factions, ( I see you actually already kinda mentioned this as a possibility, just noticed..) switching sides back and forth? A lot of these murders seem like these guys are set up by people very close to them, the hits are TOO CLEAN.


The point you made about the Ndrangheta not making a move on Vito while he was alive, and what it says about their power? I think it says more about Vito's power to procure narcotics more than anything. He was TOO valuable to hit when he was alive, because he made too many people too much money. His connects were too solid, to the Big Circle Boys for heroin, the West End was it for Hashish? Like he was just as big in Hash as he was coke. He had his connections in Sicily, working with the Calabrians to try to build that bridge. He was TRUSTED, by the narcotics suppliers, I think his array of connects had even surpassed his fathers at that point. And he had TOO much clout with the guys moving the stuff on the street. Like take Arcadi? I don't even think guys like him would EVER deal with the street gangs and such, Vito was much more cosmopolitan, much more " Luciano-ish" for lack of a better adjective.
Edit; Were Rizzutos hash connections through Dejardins? He seemed to have some connects of his own, and connects to the Halifax port? Maybe that's why he still exercises power up there...and why he thought he could challenge the leadership..

The first point of control is the SOURCE of narcotics.
( Here is a historical parallel, I'll use gambling. In the 40s, if LCN wanted to control all the horse betting, they woulda had to have guys physically present at every track in the country, which is logistically a nightmare right? Okay apply this logic to drug corners, bars and clubs.

What was their solution, control the SOURCE of information, and thus you control all the bookies taking bets at the tracks. Now, think about it, they didn't send a massive crew to do this, they sent like Bugsy Siegal, maybe a few guys in a few key cities. Now apply this logic to narcotics and you see how the power is wielded...)

This brings me to my third question, but first consider this......
From this article...
Fly-wheel of the Drug Trade. https://www.tni.org/en/paper/rothschilds-mafia-aruba



The [BadWord]-Caruana clan has had some serious set-backs with the arrest and conviction of some of their most prominent bosses in 1996. Does this mean the clan is out of business? Prosecutor Natoli is under no illusions that the conviction of the [BadWord] brothers will mean the end of the clan's criminal activities and contends that the brothers are able to continue to organize drug transports from jail. [BadWord] and Caruana are not the kind of traffickers who smuggle the merchandise themselves, he explains: "They give the orders, they pull the strings." The highest levels of the drug trade use steady channels: solid systems of transport and tested money-laundering routes, Natoli adds. Several leading members of the clan – such as the [BadWord] sons, all called Giuseppe – remain outside prison and dozens of lower ranking foot-soldiers are still available. (82)

Natoli's fear that the clan continues to play a major role in the drug trade even though the principal leaders are in prison, proved to be correct. During the trial in Palermo, one of the defendants, the fugitive Alfonso Caruana, turned out to be the central organizer of a network that smuggled eleven metric tons of cocaine to Italy from 1991-94. The ring was dismantled in March 1995 in Northern Italy.

Caruana brought together the cocaine producers of the Colombian Cartels with the Italian distributors, six 'ndrangheta families the Calabrian variant of the Mafia. Once again the [BadWord]-Caruana family was "the fly-wheel of the drug trade and the indispensable link between suppliers and distributors." (83)

What I noticed is that the Caruanas and [BadWord] were securing coke for the whole of Cosa Nostra, as well as the Siderno group.


How important are the Caruana-[BadWord] in all of this? They run the Venuzelan family right? ( Apparently there are like HUNDREDS of wholesalers operating there..)And we know they had tremendous influence in the Antilles. And then I see reports of Avanlanches of coke coming through the Dutch ports. Who is organizing all that coke?

It seems their narcotics business got so large it outgrew being simply a Sicilian business. These guys are TOO globalized it seems. Dealing with Sicilians only, means you only control NY. Dealing with Calabrians means you control, Canada, and Europe, AND Australia. And they can STILL cut deals with whoever is left of the Sicilian, or Montreal, or what ever lines they are distinguished by be it geography or ethnicity. I know people think of the Rizzutos as a Bonnano subsidiary. But I gotta ask, were they actually a subsidiary of the Caruana- [BadWord] family, that was simply overtaken by the wider influence of Ndrangheta? And then the Caruanas made deals with Ndrangheta and the remnants of the Rizzuto group?

I appreciate any thoughts from everyone....
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/17/16 07:38 AM

Also, even though it's the wrong thread, I see these guys organized like this....



Crime Corporation- Shareholders= Blood Relatives

This company never goes "Public" so to speak, and you can't buy shares really.


Edit: You can acquire shares, but only if you control a large apparatus for distribution, (it's more like a contract between a supplier and retailer though, like a mattress manufacturer agreeing to supply Sears...) But sometimes the company fully integrates and develops their own, think LCN importing zips for their own distribution. Control a reliable method for transportation and or importation, (Again, this is more like a contract between companies. Sometimes a company will fully integrate and just develop their own, like Amazon getting their own trucks instead of hiring UPS. Think Cosa Nostra using the Teamsters to truck dope in the 40s -50s. Have an additional source for supply, (although this will most times put you in direct competition) or be able to launder all the money.
But you can do a " Hostile" takeover lol


Crime Ceo= Street Boss

Crime COO= Underboss

Crime VPs = Lieutenants

Assassins are a lot like lawyers, kept on retainer, but loyal to a dollar.

Everyone else is an employee. And replaceble, indeed even the CEOs and COOs are replaceable. The only ones who aren't, are the blood relatives, which is why they all gotta die....in a hostile crime corporate take over....

Maybe I think too much lol, any thoughts?
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/17/16 07:49 AM

Who is Leonard Rizzuto?
Posted By: Giacomo_Vacari

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/17/16 08:50 AM

Leonardo Rizzuto, son of Vito Rizzuto.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/17/16 09:37 AM

Good post antimafia, with this murder I think we also have to look at Sicily.
Posted By: GangstersInc

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/17/16 12:46 PM

Montreal mobster murdered at home as Mafia violence continues
http://gangstersinc.ning.com/profiles/blogs/montreal-mobster-murdered-at-home-as-violence-continues
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/17/16 04:26 PM

I'm still thinking these killings are coming from the Desjardins side. I'm thinking Arcadi and the Sicilians are on the same side here. I think he knows that's his best chance of taking over again. After the conspiracy to kill Desjardins with Mom Boucher, I don't think the Hells have turned on them either. That is another reason Desjardins is having no problems pushing his trial back, he gets a day and a half per day served and he still has people killing for him. I have no doubt that he wields power still from prison. He proved that the first time he was locked up. Now it will be interesting to see if the HA and the Sicilians can get to him behind bars like they wanted to though. Surely the conspiracy pissed him off and at least killed a few in revenge or tried to anyways.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/17/16 04:58 PM

TVA Nouvelles in Quebec is reporting that a possible motive for Vincenzo Spagnolo's murder this past Saturday is that he was in possession of information that includes a list of individuals that Vito Rizzuto wanted killed. The article to which I've linked below is accompanied by a video in which crime reporter Félix Séguin elaborates about a Book of Truth that Spagnolo was in possession of--I'm still trying to figure out whether the book is meant literally or figuratively, as the article mentions that Spagnolo took certain secrets to his grave. In the interest of fairness, I should mention that Séguin has heard from sources that the Toronto-area 'ndrangheta (i.e., the Siderno Group) is possibly behind the murders of Rizzuto loyalists in the last little while; Seguin has expressed this theory on Twitter as well. I'm afraid I don't buy it.

I owe a few posters some replies--I'll try to answer in due course.

http://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2016/10/17/le-gardien-du-livre-des-grands-secrets-reduit-au-silence
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/17/16 05:27 PM

If he does have that list, I'm pretty sure he wasn't the only one. If Vito knew he was dying like has been reported, surely he knew if Leonardo would have taken a role in the family or not. Also he trusted the Sollecito's enough that they would have probably had the same info as Spagnolo. I think it's more likely he was killed because of who he was close to than a list.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/17/16 05:30 PM

Originally Posted By: Giacomo_Vacari
Frank Arcadi is the boss. Frank Cotroni Jr, and Leonard Rizzuto both called peace.


I call bullshit.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/17/16 07:43 PM

Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
I'm still thinking these killings are coming from the Desjardins side. I'm thinking Arcadi and the Sicilians are on the same side here. I think he knows that's his best chance of taking over again. After the conspiracy to kill Desjardins with Mom Boucher, I don't think the Hells have turned on them either. That is another reason Desjardins is having no problems pushing his trial back, he gets a day and a half per day served and he still has people killing for him. I have no doubt that he wields power still from prison. He proved that the first time he was locked up. Now it will be interesting to see if the HA and the Sicilians can get to him behind bars like they wanted to though. Surely the conspiracy pissed him off and at least killed a few in revenge or tried to anyways.


Desjardins was the true leader of the murderous rebellion against the Rizzuto clan, this is what the turncoat Giuseppe Carbone told a court in Palermo last week.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/17/16 07:45 PM

It is not the hit list that is the problem.I also agree that others must have that list. The problem is the secrets of the Mafia that is in that book. Further in the news article it mentions that those secrets could upset or unbalance the order of the Mafia. What is not said in the article, are those secrets local to the Montreal area or does it expose other people from Ontario,NY or abroad.
The next question I ask myself is why would anyone have that information in a book and for what purpose ?
Posted By: SonnyBlackstein

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/17/16 07:55 PM

Amazing to think in the past decade the Montreal mob war victims number in amount to the size of the Columbo family.

That gives size and scale to the conflict.
That one of the five families has (metaphorically) essentially been wiped out.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/17/16 10:11 PM

Originally Posted By: SonnyBlackstein
Amazing to think in the past decade the Montreal mob war victims number in amount to the size of the Columbo family.

That gives size and scale to the conflict.
That one of the five families has (metaphorically) essentially been wiped out.


Depends on the numbers you're speaking of. A recent article list 40 murders, but that same number was also brought up years earlier and so seems to be repeated and outdated. Also, while some of the killings are related many probably are not. Chaos started to erupt not long after Vito Rizzuto was incarcerated. People saw that as an opportunity to settle old scores.
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/18/16 02:10 PM

Seems like a deja-vu doesn't it? A throwback to 2009 when the Rizzuto clan was under heavy attack.

Looking back, nobody knew what was going on. Who was killing such heavy hitters who seemed pretty much untouchable...Nick Jr, Nicolo, Paolo, Agostino and so forth....The media was using as they are today, the Calabrian clan, to describe the main rival faction. Years have passed and we now know that besides the Rizzuto top 6 leaders, Montreal had a rather large opposing group attacking the weakened Rizzuto clan which consisted of:

- Desjardins-Mirrarchi and friends
- Di Maulo-Cotroni group
- Arcuri-Montagna-Lopresti and co.
- De Vito and friends
- Other various groups, Scoppa, Gallo, Mucci..

Was the Ndrangheta involved? Maybe indirectly and on a support level basis. Many of the players above were documented as having visited leading figures in the Siderno group between 06-12'. But it may be possible that Montreal gangsters were reaching out to them vs the other way around.

I believe that the current situation in many ways replicates the early 80's when Vic Cotroni passed away. It was then that the Rizzuto family officially took over and prospered, even though the Violi brothers had already been wiped out. Whoever is trying to eliminate the old guard, has mainly done so because Vito passed away and what's left of his group no longer holds the same power.

Clearly local players are the main culprits here, Siderno boys will not be sending men here to pull the trigger but their involvement will be one of capital and logistics. Most likely, the current opposing faction is the remaining players of the former alliance that attempted to overthrow the Rizzuto family.

Time will tell.

**Disclaimer** to those who are not familiar with Quebec media and news, the Calabrian faction or Sicilian mafia are terms used by the media to describe opposing factions, similar to Bloods vs Crips. In reality, they are neither accurate since both groups have leaders or members from various parts of Italy. Traditionally the Sicilian faction is referred as the Rizzuto group, while the Calabrian faction is a mixture of the old Di-Maulo-Cotroni and others. Recently, some reporters are starting to make the distinction between the Calabrian faction in Montreal and the Siderno group.

The true Sicilian Cosa Nostra and Ndrangheta would almost never have a direct war, such things don't happen in Rome or Milan where both operate together. They are close and work together in Italy and Europe where they share and split territories accordingly to avoid conflict and all out bloodshed.

Typically the top leaders in each group will meet and discuss matters before wars breakout. Montreal's current situation seems messy but many decisions are taken both a local level and from abroad.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/18/16 02:47 PM

Originally Posted By: eurodave
Seems like a deja-vu doesn't it?


That's the best way to describe it, lol. Just like back then we'll probably learn more about these new (or old?), emerging players a year from now when the air has cleared. The question is: will this story ever end? It's an ongoing cycle of killings and revenge killings and revenge killings of revenge killings and so on. The police are playing a decisive part in this as well, because after a major arrest the opposing group starts cleaning house. Good post.
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/18/16 02:59 PM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: eurodave
Seems like a deja-vu doesn't it?


That's the best way to describe it, lol. Just like back then we'll probably learn more about these new (or old?), emerging players a year from now when the air has cleared. The question is: will this story ever end? It's an ongoing cycle of killings and revenge killings and revenge killings of revenge killings and so on. The police are playing a decisive part in this as well, because after a major arrest the opposing group starts cleaning house. Good post.


The Violi to Rizzuto transition took a few years I believe, between mid 70's to Cotroni's death in 83'. Because these situations are so complex and so many players are involved, both italian and non-italian, it takes time and strategy to implement a new order.

That being said, the Rizzuto clan is looking rather thin, in jail and weaker than ever. There is no more Vito. Maybe this time it will be a final extermination.

Like you said, the Police play a bigger role than most give credit. They knew all along that Desjardins was a huge factor in the rebellion as was Montagna. They followed them everywhere. By cleaning up the Rizzuto's again in 2015, they must of known that they pratically sealed their fate.

For some odd reason, I have a feeling the Scoppa brother's are making some moves. Rarely do you hear about them, but they wield a lot of power.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/18/16 03:08 PM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: antimafia
Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Seems to be a revenge killing that could be related back to Vito Rizzuto's return in 2012.


I think you're right. I also think that a lot of the murders during certain periods of the war are revenge killings. Which could mean more retaliatory attacks, a recent example of which might be the two attacks on Solid Gold, which was Moreno Gallo's old stomping grounds; other future retaliatory attacks, of course, would be more murders that have yet to be avenged.


Are you suggesting that the attacks on Solid Gold were retaliatory attacks by the old Rizzuto group for recent murders or do I misinterpret?

It seems like we have as much clue on who's behind this as we did in 2010. Apparantly people are bringing up old theories like Paolo Violi's sons trying to take over, which I'm extremely sceptic about. I think a more viable theory is that Arcadi is making a powerplay with backing from Ontario. A more frightning theory is that Giordano, Arcadi and Sollecito were on the same side and are being killed off by another group. It feels too convenient thinking about people loyal to Desjardins and De Vito. It also seems like the old Di Maulo-Cotroni group is still on good terms with the 'Sicillians' because Carmine Vanelli was seen at Sollecito's funeral, but that may not mean much.


Two pages back I posted a link to Daniel Renaud's October 4 article about the Solid Gold attacks. Here's the story link in case you haven't read the article:

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...s-criminels.php

According to the article, a source revealed that after Gallo's murder, Solid Gold passed into Stefano Sollecito's hands. The article also mentions that this information has not been corroborated by police. If the source's information is accurate, maybe one or more people close to Gallo were behind the attacks for a number of reasons, e.g., anger over Gallo's murder, resentment arising from losing the establishment.

If the information isn't accurate, the attacks may have been committed by people who were upset with Gallo's having sided with Montagna.

Toward the end of the article is the suggestion that because of the Solid Gold attacks, law enforcement will be looking into whether and how the murders of Rocco Sollecito and Moreno Gallo are related.

You don't have to read the rest of my post because you will have previously read my thoughts on the 'ndrangheta operating in the Greater Toronto Area.

Below I've quoted from Nick Rose's July 27, 2015 article for VICE News, "With Sicilian Mafia in Rapid Decline, Just Who Is Running the Mob in Montreal?"

With the rise of Haitian street gangs, the imminent release of numerous Hells Angels from prison, and rival Italian factions, there is no shortage of conspiracy theories surrounding Vito Rizzuto's replacement. Chief among those theories is that the Ontario-based Calabrian mafia, also known as the 'Ndrangheta, is moving in and getting revenge after having been violently pushed out of the city by Vito's father in the 1970s.

But this line of thinking is deeply flawed, said RCMP Staff Sergeant Chris Knight, because it assumes that Vito Rizzuto can even be replaced.

"No one's got the credibility, no one's got the clout and certainly no one has the charisma that Vito Rizzuto had—and I've met him—to make allies out of enemies. No one has that right now," Knight told VICE.

Knight has been with the RCMP for 34 years and works with local, provincial and international law enforcement to monitor organized crime in Quebec. His squad has seen no sign of rival Italian gangs moving to replace the Rizzuto's, as certain media and observers have speculated.

"We haven't seen attempts or power moves from Hamilton or Toronto on establishments or persons here. And we haven't received any information on the street to that effect either. It's a myth. I've always heard these things about New York and Toronto controlling Montreal but nothing could be further from the truth."

Antonio Nicaso agrees. He has authored 27 books about organized crimes and acted as a consultant for the government on these matters. In his most recent book Business or Blood he writes extensively about the final years of Rizzuto's life and the implications of a post-Vito world.


I think most of us realize that law-enforcement officials, whether active or retired, have conflicting opinions about various facets of the Montreal mob war, e.g., the roots, the causes, the factions, the behind-the-scenes players, and so on. The same can be said about organized-crime authors and crime reporters, who when writing their books and articles about the Montreal Mafia are citing the aforementioned officials.

I can't and won't dismiss the very real possibility that, a number of years ago, there were individuals in the Siderno Group in the Greater Toronto Area--not just the leaders--who supported and actively contributed to a toppling of the Montreal Mafia hierarchy. But my opinion is that there wasn't unanimous agreement in the GTA Siderno Group about attempting a takeover, providing support to Vittorio Mirarchi (and others?), and severing ties with the Rizzuto organization (with Vito in particular); I am sure there were many other areas of disagreement. A divided GTA Siderno Group is not only plausible but also very likely, given the internal frictions since mid-2008 that have been documented by antindrangheta investigators in Calabria and law-enforcement officials in the GTA (and you might include here the high-profile murder of Carmine Verduci in April 2014 if you don't think it was an act of Vito's revenge). If you look at the fate of some of the seven leaders of the GTA Siderno Group since their names were revealed in the arrest warrants of the 2010 Operazione Il Crimine antindrangheta operation, you would be right to wonder whether there have been shifts in the balance of power in the camera di controllo of the GTA Siderno Group and who has replaced the more influential individuals not on the board, i.e., Carmelo Bruzzese and Verduci. The Project OPhoenix investigation that culminated in June of last year either reveals a reorganization in the GTA Siderno Group (Verduci and Pino Ursino were said to head their own groups) or muddies the waters. In any event, I think that there were leaders in the GTA Siderno Group who took a shot at trying to influence events in Montreal, ultimately failed, and then worried about getting clipped after Vito got out of prison and even after he died. If you believe the GTA Siderno Group took an active role in killing Paolo Renda, Agostino Cun-trera, and Nick Rizzuto Sr. for the purpose of taking over Montreal, you have to stop writing how low-profile the 'ndrangheta in the GTA is. Or that the GTA Siderno Group in Ontario is not prone to violence the way the Montreal Mafia is in Quebec.

Many people overestimate the power of the GTA Siderno Group here in Canada--and this comes from me, someone who has researched this group more than any other Canadian crime group--not understanding that this group has had to interact with American LCN and Sicilian CN groups in Canada and the US for approximately 60 years at this point. A good part of this interaction has involved respecting protocols and territories of operation; a good chunk of the interaction has been criminal collaboration. The GTA Siderno Group is not some exotic drug-trafficking criminal group. Some of its leaders have been engaged in loansharking for more than 40 years.
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/18/16 03:17 PM

This is mostly accurate, but to undermine their influence is also naive. From various sources, we've seen major players in Montreal over the last few years take the 401 and visit local GTA gangsters.

De Vito did it, Piccirilli, Montagna, Mirarchi...etc...

Ironically you can't say Remo Commisso or Antonio Coluccio were seen multiple times hanging out in Montreal. It seems that Montreal mobsters were visiting Toronto. What for and why?

High profile murders usually require some sort of protocal and authorization. The GTA boys probably don't have a direct hand in what's going on, but as of late, with their own re-organization, I would assume they continue to play an external role which is not negligable.

That being said, made members of the Cosa Nostra and Ndrangheta divide territories and avoid conflict, both in the Americas and Europe.

You may believe that the Ndrine in Ontario are not significant, but on a global scale, the Sicilians buy coke from Calabrians, a reversal of what it was 20 years ago when they would go to people such as Caruana for large quantities. Various indictments and arrests have demonstrated how Cosa Nostra cells from different parts of Sicily, IE: Siragusa, Catania, Messina and Palermo are buying coke from Calabrian importers, mainly families from the Ionian side and the Gioia Tauro region.

If this happens in Italy and Europe, why can't this exact system replicate itself in Canada?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/18/16 07:10 PM

Originally Posted By: eurodave
This is mostly accurate, but to undermine their influence is also naive. From various sources, we've seen major players in Montreal over the last few years take the 401 and visit local GTA gangsters.

De Vito did it, Piccirilli, Montagna, Mirarchi...etc...

Ironically you can't say Remo Commisso or Antonio Coluccio were seen multiple times hanging out in Montreal. It seems that Montreal mobsters were visiting Toronto. What for and why?

High profile murders usually require some sort of protocal and authorization. The GTA boys probably don't have a direct hand in what's going on, but as of late, with their own re-organization, I would assume they continue to play an external role which is not negligable.

That being said, made members of the Cosa Nostra and Ndrangheta divide territories and avoid conflict, both in the Americas and Europe.



Excellent posts Eurodave. Your views and assessment on your last three posts are very identical to mine.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/18/16 09:14 PM

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/streit-gang-sales-1.3804199

Interesting article, armoured cars sold to an associate of Rizzuto Family.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/18/16 10:20 PM

Originally Posted By: eurodave
For some odd reason, I have a feeling the Scoppa brother's are making some moves. Rarely do you hear about them, but they wield a lot of power.


Might be the case. Andrea Scoppa was said to be on good terms with Vito Rizzuto, but times have changed. They've been around for a long time and are very active in the drug trade and because of that they may be looking for a larger slize of the pie if not the whole pie itself. Interestingly, Andrea Scoppa was listed as one of the individuals Stefano Sollecito was not allowed to meet with during his parole.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/18/16 11:30 PM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: antimafia
Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Seems to be a revenge killing that could be related back to Vito Rizzuto's return in 2012.


I think you're right. I also think that a lot of the murders during certain periods of the war are revenge killings. Which could mean more retaliatory attacks, a recent example of which might be the two attacks on Solid Gold, which was Moreno Gallo's old stomping grounds; other future retaliatory attacks, of course, would be more murders that have yet to be avenged.


Are you suggesting that the attacks on Solid Gold were retaliatory attacks by the old Rizzuto group for recent murders or do I misinterpret?

It seems like we have as much clue on who's behind this as we did in 2010. Apparantly people are bringing up old theories like Paolo Violi's sons trying to take over, which I'm extremely sceptic about. I think a more viable theory is that Arcadi is making a powerplay with backing from Ontario. A more frightning theory is that Giordano, Arcadi and Sollecito were on the same side and are being killed off by another group. It feels too convenient thinking about people loyal to Desjardins and De Vito. It also seems like the old Di Maulo-Cotroni group is still on good terms with the 'Sicillians' because Carmine Vanelli was seen at Sollecito's funeral, but that may not mean much.


Two pages back I posted a link to Daniel Renaud's October 4 article about the Solid Gold attacks. Here's the story link in case you haven't read the article:

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...s-criminels.php

According to the article, a source revealed that after Gallo's murder, Solid Gold passed into Stefano Sollecito's hands. The article also mentions that this information has not been corroborated by police. If the source's information is accurate, maybe one or more people close to Gallo were behind the attacks for a number of reasons, e.g., anger over Gallo's murder, resentment arising from losing the establishment.

If the information isn't accurate, the attacks may have been committed by people who were upset with Gallo's having sided with Montagna.

Toward the end of the article is the suggestion that because of the Solid Gold attacks, law enforcement will be looking into whether and how the murders of Rocco Sollecito and Moreno Gallo are related.


Yeah, I read that article (I rarely miss any) but I forgot about it stating that it had transitioned to Sollecito. It seems to me that Rocco Sollecito's murder could rather be linked to Giordano than Gallo, but who knows. Gallo had a small army of his own I believe. I still wonder where Mucci stood in all of this. Based on tapes of the Consenza club it looked like that Mucci was with Gallo back then. But based on information from Renaud, Mucci had supposedly distanced himself from Gallo during the take-over attempt because he chose to be neutral. Do you happen to have more information of Mucci's relationship with Gallo? I know that Mucci was in charge of a crew who where distributing coke, but I think that he was Gallo's second-in-command. Also, I ignored your advice and read your post in its entirety. wink
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/19/16 02:09 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/streit-gang-sales-1.3804199

Interesting article, armoured cars sold to an associate of Rizzuto Family.


Tony Mucci has been in armored vehicles for a while now, at least ever since Vito got out he was.
Posted By: baldo

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/19/16 03:22 PM

Just to check....after 14 pages were still have no idea what's going on up there? :-)
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/19/16 03:55 PM

Originally Posted By: baldo
Just to check....after 14 pages were still have no idea what's going on up there? :-)


On the old Real Deal forum we still had no clue after 25 pages of the 'Nicolo Rizzuto has been shot' thread. shhh
Posted By: Blackjack2121

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/19/16 04:11 PM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: baldo
Just to check....after 14 pages were still have no idea what's going on up there? :-)


On the old Real Deal forum we still had no clue after 25 pages of the 'Nicolo Rizzuto has been shot' thread. shhh


what happened to it?

it was still active and then a board error 2 months ago and counting just never got fixed?
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/19/16 04:41 PM

Originally Posted By: Blackjack2121
Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: baldo
Just to check....after 14 pages were still have no idea what's going on up there? :-)


On the old Real Deal forum we still had no clue after 25 pages of the 'Nicolo Rizzuto has been shot' thread. shhh


what happened to it?

it was still active and then a board error 2 months ago and counting just never got fixed?


It seems like the owner has pulled out the plug.
Posted By: IvyLeague

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/19/16 06:19 PM

Originally Posted By: Blackjack2121
Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: baldo
Just to check....after 14 pages were still have no idea what's going on up there? :-)


On the old Real Deal forum we still had no clue after 25 pages of the 'Nicolo Rizzuto has been shot' thread. shhh


what happened to it?

it was still active and then a board error 2 months ago and counting just never got fixed?


That's a long story but, in a nutshell, the administrator and moderator over there gave the boot to too many of their most consistent and long-term posters. Slowly the RD forum became a ghost town with only a few posters checking in regularly. Last I saw, a different format of the board can still be accessed elsewhere but it's still basically dead. And the powers that be there have themselves to thank for it.
Posted By: Giacomo_Vacari

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/19/16 06:32 PM

Power trip over there at the realdeal, too many a knowledgeable people were booted for not following the party line, plus "a few people" brought legal action against the site for discrimination (LE members) or so the rumor is. Those folks that were in power over there, some of them are across the street now, have been for over a year or so.
Posted By: Chicken713

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/19/16 07:21 PM

That sucks it went down. Right when I got vouched for and allowed into the forum it went down basically. Like the next day. I never got the RealDeal experience lol
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/19/16 08:36 PM

Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/streit-gang-sales-1.3804199

Interesting article, armoured cars sold to an associate of Rizzuto Family.


Tony Mucci has been in armored vehicles for a while now, at least ever since Vito got out he was.


Yes, the article makes reference to 2006 when a Rizzuto associate bought them. Mucci most probably got from the same company.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/19/16 09:01 PM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: baldo
Just to check....after 14 pages were still have no idea what's going on up there? :-)


On the old Real Deal forum we still had no clue after 25 pages of the 'Nicolo Rizzuto has been shot' thread. shhh


I agree the old existing OC family has split up in various factions, all fighting for dominance and with all the betrayals it is very difficult to know who is on what side. At one point the Rizzuto rivals were ahead then then Rizzuto made a comeback; now the rivals have the upper hand for now. It remains to be seen if the Rizzuto's will survive this second round of attacks.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/19/16 10:02 PM

Salvatore Cazzetta remains detained

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...78_section_POS1
Posted By: Blackjack2121

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/19/16 10:31 PM

Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
Originally Posted By: Blackjack2121
Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: baldo
Just to check....after 14 pages were still have no idea what's going on up there? :-)


On the old Real Deal forum we still had no clue after 25 pages of the 'Nicolo Rizzuto has been shot' thread. shhh


what happened to it?

it was still active and then a board error 2 months ago and counting just never got fixed?


That's a long story but, in a nutshell, the administrator and moderator over there gave the boot to too many of their most consistent and long-term posters. Slowly the RD forum became a ghost town with only a few posters checking in regularly. Last I saw, a different format of the board can still be accessed elsewhere but it's still basically dead. And the powers that be there have themselves to thank for it.


Nah I know what happened with people getting banned...

I was still posting right up until the end

there was no announcement or anything...there was just a board error and it never got fixed and i guess they just gave up on it

it happened about 2 months before this last time too, it was down for like 2 weeks, but then it got fixed....then out of nowhere the same thing happened.

people were still posting in the days leading up to the board error

weird
Posted By: dsbaloo

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/20/16 04:45 AM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/streit-gang-sales-1.3804199

Interesting article, armoured cars sold to an associate of Rizzuto Family.


Remember hearing when rizzuto got out he purchased like a fully armored s500 Mercedes or something . Smart move I would do the same thing. It's so wild up there if I was in the mix I would have an armored car and I wouldn't leave the house without a vest and a pistol close by... I know magi also had a armoured car and seemed to always be wearing a vest when he went anywhere .. and also had a fucking convoy of security...

Vests are easy to get and inexpensive.. and not that uncomfortable to wear under your clothes if your life is really on the line. Yeah it's not going to do shit off you catch a head shot or get hit with like a 762 round (some vests will) but still better than nothing
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/20/16 04:56 AM

I alluded to the Scoppa thing months ago.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/21/16 12:04 AM

Originally Posted By: dsbaloo
Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/streit-gang-sales-1.3804199

Interesting article, armoured cars sold to an associate of Rizzuto Family.


Remember hearing when rizzuto got out he purchased like a fully armored s500 Mercedes or something . Smart move I would do the same thing. It's so wild up there if I was in the mix I would have an armored car and I wouldn't leave the house without a vest and a pistol close by... I know magi also had a armoured car and seemed to always be wearing a vest when he went anywhere .. and also had a fucking convoy of security...

Vests are easy to get and inexpensive.. and not that uncomfortable to wear under your clothes if your life is really on the line. Yeah it's not going to do shit off you catch a head shot or get hit with like a 762 round (some vests will) but still better than nothing


That's who I meant in my post. Not sure why I typed Mucci, but I was thinking Magi. I know they had a story when his "convoy" was rolling and some guy jumped out of the woods with a rifle in his hands and jumped back in the woods and took off. I'm sure it was a sign that he was still being hunted. I have no doubt he still had something to do with Nick Jr's death. I would guarantee if there is a hit list his name is one of the ones still on it.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/21/16 10:33 AM

The Magi brothers have probably still ties to the people around Desjardins.
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/21/16 10:59 AM

I gotta confirm, Sinatra Club called that Scoppa thing forever ago, before it came out in the papers, I was quite impressed frankly lol
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/21/16 11:00 AM

@ Sinatra
Are those guys still based in Mexico, as far you know?
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/21/16 11:02 AM

Rizzuto coming back was like Savastano on the TV show..


In fact, the whole war up there is probably being fought in a similar fashion.

It's no wonder we can't get a full grasp on it, I doubt the participants have a full grasp on it...
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/21/16 12:18 PM

Originally Posted By: CabriniGreen
I gotta confirm, Sinatra Club called that Scoppa thing forever ago, before it came out in the papers, I was quite impressed frankly lol


Nothing has come out in the papers about the Scoppa brothers yet. It's only speculation.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/21/16 12:50 PM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: CabriniGreen
I gotta confirm, Sinatra Club called that Scoppa thing forever ago, before it came out in the papers, I was quite impressed frankly lol


Nothing has come out in the papers about the Scoppa brothers yet. It's only speculation.


I think eurodave was the first who said they had a big influence.
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/21/16 04:59 PM

Originally Posted By: Hollander
Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: CabriniGreen
I gotta confirm, Sinatra Club called that Scoppa thing forever ago, before it came out in the papers, I was quite impressed frankly lol


Nothing has come out in the papers about the Scoppa brothers yet. It's only speculation.


I think eurodave was the first who said they had a big influence.


I had head of their name and influence in the early 2000's and obviously, they are a force to be recknoned with. Just to inform those of you who that are not familiar with the city, the Scoppa's operated mainly on Gallo's old turf, basically Little Italy and the center of the city. I'm not quite sure what relationship they had though.

I've also come across an interesting article in Italian about certain facts.

"
Out of the game the managers of Alvaro, New York if they are taken the Ursino. Including contacts with the South Americans. The earthquakes are reflected in Canada, where the hierarchies crumble. And with them the pax mafia. The 80 criminals Italian emigrants there had divided the business between Toronto and Montreal. Sicilians to the Rizzuto clan drugs; the Calabrian arrived from Siderno, gambling, gambling and usury. Map designed it in 2010 Italians investigators who worked on the "Crime" maxi investigation, which for the first time identified the leaders of the 'Ndrangheta and is still valid. Three years ago, the leader of the Rizzuto, Vito, is dying of cancer. In the following months, coinciding with the rise of the Ursino in the North American dial, four of the six members of the "Council" of the Rizzuto clan are killed. The last to fall was Rocco Sollecito. A few weeks ago, in Montreal, he was about to end in a coffin Marco Pizzi, 46, cocaine importer for Rizzuto, escaped the ambush of the hitmen who had buffered and flanked with a car. They were masked and armed. "The Calabrian attacked the old" powers.

http://www.grandangoloagrigento.it/la-gu...-dei-calabresi/
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/21/16 08:37 PM

The only way Toronto can influence things in Montreal if there's indeed the alliance between the 'calabrian faction' of the Rizzuto clan and the 'Ndrangheta in Ontario maybe backed by the Hells Angels.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/21/16 08:45 PM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: CabriniGreen
I gotta confirm, Sinatra Club called that Scoppa thing forever ago, before it came out in the papers, I was quite impressed frankly lol


Nothing has come out in the papers about the Scoppa brothers yet. It's only speculation.


http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...s-policiers.php

For the record the Scoppa's were mentioned in various articles dating back over a decade. The one I posted above dates Oct. 14 2014. Daniel Renaud has been writing about them for years. This pre-dates claims by a certain individual on these posts, that said he called it months ago.
Eurodave is correct he was an associate of Gallo at one time, they do carry weight. They were neutral at first when the war began but now considered rivals.
They are Calabrian. Some of his associates were/are DeVito (Calabrian), Piccirilli(Calabrian),Mirarchi(Calabrian).They all have close ties with the bikers MC (Cazzetta). Most of them made trips to Ontario. If you connect the dots you get the big picture.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/21/16 09:00 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: CabriniGreen
I gotta confirm, Sinatra Club called that Scoppa thing forever ago, before it came out in the papers, I was quite impressed frankly lol


Nothing has come out in the papers about the Scoppa brothers yet. It's only speculation.


http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...s-policiers.php

For the record the Scoppa's were mentioned in various articles dating back over a decade. The one I posted above dates Oct. 14 2014. Daniel Renaud has been writing about them for years. This pre-dates claims by a certain individual on these posts, that said he called it months ago.
Eurodave is correct he was an associate of Gallo at one time, they do carry weight. They were neutral at first when the war began but now considered rivals.
They are Calabrian. Some of his associates were/are DeVito (Calabrian), Piccirilli(Calabrian),Mirarchi(Calabrian).They all have close ties with the bikers MC (Cazzetta). Most of them made trips to Ontario. If you connect the dots you get the big picture.


I was talking about the Scoppas being pinpointed by journalists as those suspected of being behind the recent turmoil. I'm aware of them being mentioned in older articles. Could you post the article that has identified them as rivals of the Rizzuto faction? I must've missed it.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/21/16 09:13 PM

Originally Posted By: Hollander
The only way Toronto can influence things in Montreal if there's is indeed the alliance between the 'calabrian faction' of the Rizzuto clan and the 'Ndrangheta in Ontario maybe backed by the Hells Angels.


It is of my opinion that the pie is already divided in Montreal but the war is not over yet. The days of one family having it all is over. That is why we are seeing this conflict being carried out for years.It would be wise to share but some are too stubborn to understand.
If it is true that Ontario Calabrian clans are behind all this then you will have some of these clans or ndrine establish themselves in Montreal. That is a pattern of how they operate in other countries or cities. According to past news articles the Caruana/[BadWord] clan seem to have a good working relationship with the Calabrian clans in Ontario. If hostilities end in Montreal you may have the same relationship taking place in Montreal.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/21/16 09:19 PM

I missed that in all the chaos, but last month they throwed molotov cocktails at John & Dino, a company that used to be owned by Agostino Cun trera, who was gunned down in front of the very same company in 2010.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/21/16 09:44 PM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: CabriniGreen
I gotta confirm, Sinatra Club called that Scoppa thing forever ago, before it came out in the papers, I was quite impressed frankly lol


Nothing has come out in the papers about the Scoppa brothers yet. It's only speculation.


http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...s-policiers.php

For the record the Scoppa's were mentioned in various articles dating back over a decade. The one I posted above dates Oct. 14 2014. Daniel Renaud has been writing about them for years. This pre-dates claims by a certain individual on these posts, that said he called it months ago.
Eurodave is correct he was an associate of Gallo at one time, they do carry weight. They were neutral at first when the war began but now considered rivals.
They are Calabrian. Some of his associates were/are DeVito (Calabrian), Piccirilli(Calabrian),Mirarchi(Calabrian).They all have close ties with the bikers MC (Cazzetta). Most of them made trips to Ontario. If you connect the dots you get the big picture.


I was talking about the Scoppas being pinpointed by journalists as those suspected of being behind the recent turmoil. I'm aware of them being mentioned in older articles. Could you post the article that has identified them as rivals of the Rizzuto faction? I must've missed it.


http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2015/10/08/un-mafioso-montrealais-doit-se-cacher-dans-le-sud

Here is one. In summary they mention he pissed off some street gang, west end gang and that he does not hesitate to give direct hits to the interim mafia led by Stefano.There was a price on his head, so he went to Mexico to give himself time to re-group etc....
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/21/16 10:45 PM

Thanks to the writer Pierre de Champlain for this link.

MONTREAL MAFIA: AN ALLIANCE TO SUCCEED THE SICILIAN
magictr | May 30, 2016 | News | No Comments


The murder Friday in Laval Rocco Sollecito, last faithful of Vito Rizzuto and ultimate representative of the heyday of the Sicilian Clan, announces a change of guard next and training of a new alliance to lead the mafia and bring peace after 10 years of bloody infighting. Here, according to our sources and observations, a list of individuals who could be part of the alliance, in the short or medium term, and to succeed Rizzuto head of the Montreal Mafia.

Vittorio Mirarchi

38 years old

Protected from the boss Raynald Desjardins, the ambitious young mafioso was arrested along with his mentor and more individuals of his bodyguards in December 2011 for the murder of aspiring godfather Salvatore Montagna, Charlemagne committed to a month earlier. He pleaded guilty to a reduced charge of conspiracy in March and his sentence will be known soon. Although Mirarchi risk of being sent to prison for an indefinite period, our sources believe that one should not exclude it from the equation and could be expected to play an important role someday. Mirarchi, which is associated with the Calabrian mafia cell of Montreal, enjoys strong support in Ontario.

Raynald Desjardins

62 years

While we did not give expensive of his skin there only a year and would have even been the subject of a murder plot by former soldier of the Hells Angels Maurice Boucher, it seems that the guy has taken the bull by the horns in recent months and that its influence is still real. Desjardins still has a team on the ground to defend its interests. However, it may spend several years in prison, who soon know his sentence after pleading guilty in July 2015 of conspiracy to murder of Salvatore Montagna. Desjardins is one of the clan leaders who tried to overthrow the Rizzuto in 2009-2010, according to police.

Andrea Scoppa

52 years

The name of this mysterious chieftain described as very intelligent resonates in the streets of Montreal for decades, but especially in recent years. Already active in the heroin trade, which would have allowed him to his place, Andrea Scoppa, aka Andrew, behind an elusive reputation, who has almost as unique criminal history sentenced to six years in prison in 2004 for a case of importing cocaine via the United States. Influential, Scoppa not like being in the spotlight; it would be surprising that a seat at the table is interested in, but it could hold the balance of power. It is also very close to the riders, the best allies for the Mafia today.

Salvatore Scoppa

46 years

Brother Andrew Scoppa would also be involved in heroin. His name is particularly out of the mouth of a police witness in the investigation of release of a university student, alleged seller of heroin, arrested by the Police Department of the City of Montreal (SPVM) the last fall. Over the past year, Salvatore Scoppa rose through the ranks within the Montreal Mafia and is one of the new strong men of the district Rivière-des-Prairies, an area at the center of many conflicts in recent times. Scoppa seems however to have regular contracts on his head, which encouraged him to move away from the city temporarily. His older brother and he would also links with influential individuals of organized crime called “Middle East”.

Antonio Mucci

61 years

The former soldier clan Violi during the 70s seems to have seven lives. Reportedly, the clan leader always associated to the Calabrian faction of the Montreal Mafia has rebounded in recent months, he has regularly been on the ropes during the years of infighting. There is a year and a half, a charge of possession of weapon was withdrawn against Mucci while his lawyer sought to testify investigator SPVM who had arrested the retired Paul Philippe. In 1973, when he was 18, Mucci had shot the journalist Jean-Pierre Charbonneau in full newsroom Devoir and was sentenced to eight years in prison.

Liborio [BadWord]

47 years

Liborio [BadWord], aka Poncho, faces cocaine trafficking charges after being arrested with other individuals in the last part of the RCMP investigation Clemenza there three weeks. According to our sources, he is part of the table towards the mafia set up after the natural death of the godfather Vito Rizzuto, in December 2013. [BadWord], that could represent the interests of the Sicilian branch to a possible new table is the son of Agostino [BadWord], nicknamed the Lord of Saint-Leonard, a man of honor mafia murdered in June 2010. [BadWord] is reputed to be very discreet, but his name had been mentioned in the investigation of organized crime Division of the SPVM Alkali to solve a series of arsons committed in cafés in 2010.

Vito Salvaggio

41 years

Vito Salvaggio, once very close to Nick Rizzuto Jr., the eldest son of Vito Rizzuto assassinated in December 2009, have also served on the mafia management table set up after the death of the sponsor in December 2013. It could have its up to a possible new table to represent the interests of the Sicilian branch of the Montreal mafia. Salvaggio is linked to Dilallo restaurant of Jean-Talon, target of a Molotov cocktail on December 10. Spring 2001 During the investigation, police had seen particular visit to the famous cache of money bikers Beaubien Street. He was arrested as part of this investigation, accused of conspiracy and drug trafficking and sentenced to four years in prison.

Gianpietro Tiberio

43 years

Little known, Tiberio, owner of a towing company, is considered by the police as a rising star of the Mafia. In April, his name was mentioned in an article in La Presse on a towing company to questionable practices. According to a joint investigation by CBC and the Globe and Mail, he was involved in the casino Dream, the Dominican Republic, the deceased godfather Vito Rizzuto allegedly tried to take control. Tiberio, aka JP, is a former soldier of the Rizzuto clan and was close to Domenico Macri, killed in August 2006. He has links with influential bikers. He was sentenced to three years in prison for a drug import conspiracy case from 2006. He denies having links with the Mafia.

Alessandro Sucapane

51

Sucapane purge since January 2015 a 10-year sentence for cocaine trafficking and gangsterism following his arrest in the second part of the Clemenza RCMP investigation in 2014. It certainly remain detained for a few years, but our sources believe that we should not set aside the influence it could have. Sucapane is the former partner of the dreaded chieftain Giuseppe De Vito, poisoned with cyanide in his cell at the Donnacona Penitentiary, in summer 2013, and was very active in the attempted coup against the Rizzuto clan in 2009- 2010. Even deprived of its leaders, the group Sucapane allied clans and Desjardins Mirarchi, would still have soldiers on the ground.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/21/16 10:55 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2015/10/08/un-mafioso-montrealais-doit-se-cacher-dans-le-sud

Here is one. In summary they mention he pissed off some street gang, west end gang and that he does not hesitate to give direct hits to the interim mafia led by Stefano.There was a price on his head, so he went to Mexico to give himself time to re-group etc....



That article is about Salvatore Scoppa and it's not clear who wanted him dead. Andrea Scoppa was on good terms with the Rizzutos, but that may have changed. However, brothers don't have to be on the same page. A good example were the Ciancaglinis from Philly.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/22/16 12:01 AM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2015/10/08/un-mafioso-montrealais-doit-se-cacher-dans-le-sud

Here is one. In summary they mention he pissed off some street gang, west end gang and that he does not hesitate to give direct hits to the interim mafia led by Stefano.There was a price on his head, so he went to Mexico to give himself time to re-group etc....



That article is about Salvatore Scoppa and it's not clear who wanted him dead. Andrea Scoppa was on good terms with the Rizzutos, but that may have changed. However, brothers don't have to be on the same page. A good example were the Ciancaglinis from Philly.


I do not know how good your French is but this article makes it perfectly clear that Salvatore is a rival. His brother was in good terms with Rizzuto, they all were at one time Desjardins included until war broke out. Then some had to choose sides. Whether there is a split between brothers remains to be seen. They could also be playing the good guy bad guy scenario. Furthermore, in other articles I read the other brother Andrea and DeVito were associates and everyone knows what side DeVito was. DeVito crew helped the Scoppa brothers in trying to retrieve money from Nino Debartolomeis (kidnapping). Andrea took the wrap.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/22/16 01:01 PM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2016/10...-clan-calabrais

Translation:


FÉLIX SÉGUIN
Saturday, October 22, 2016 0:00Update Saturday, October 22, 2016 0:00
The mafiosi Vincenzo Spagnolo, shot in Laval last Saturday, was part of a short list of men to be slaughtered by the Calabrian mafia, according to sources consulted by our Bureau of Investigation.
According to these informants, it appears that the obstacles for a great return to Montreal of the Calabrian mafia, confined for 40 years in the Toronto area, are less and less numerous.
For one of the few times, the police experts and sources speak with one voice; it is a matter of time before the 'Ndrangheta (Calabrian mafia region of Italy) relocates to the metropolis.
"It's not just a matter of revenge of the Calabrian faction that is behind all this recent months, but it is also a clear intention to eradicate the heads of the Sicilian faction of the Montreal Mafia," comments by Pierre De Champlain, former RCMP analyst and researcher on the mafia.
"There will be more killings of people linked to the clan of Vito Rizzuto, it is almost certain," said a source familiar with the tensions in the Italian organized crime in Montreal.
"But the list of individuals to eliminate is beginning to shorten dramatically," the source added.
Toronto-Montreal-Hamilton
The Sûreté du Québec, which is responsible for shedding light on this case, is more cautious. "For the moment, it is too early to advance one hypothesis rather than another because the investigation is just beginning," said Captain Guy Lapointe.
According to our information, there has been a significant increase in back and forth visits of Ontario individuals linked to the Calabrian clan in recent weeks.
Some even come from Hamilton, confirms a source familiar with this matter, and this is not "by chance".
Still in Loreto
Yesterday, for a rainy afternoon, the remains of Vincenzo Spagnolo was exposed to Loreto funeral home in St. Leonard.
An hour after the opening of the visitations, the parking was already crowded.
Under the watchful eye of the police intelligence services, we saw discreetly, family members arrive, Rizzuto, Cammisano and Salvaggio , all relatives of organized crime.
The funeral of the man of 65 years will be celebrated today in the church Notre-Dame-du-Mont-Carmel Saint-Léonard, where many other mafiosi’s before were brought to their final rest.

Posted By: pmac

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/23/16 06:22 PM

Remeber the old guy from up there was at his winter house in florida and the roof collapsed on him his kids were against rizzuto was that officialy called a accident nd what happend to the kids. There businesses were getting fire bombed and they went into hiding?
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/23/16 06:36 PM

While the papers are calling for the Rizzuto's death up there (we've heard that before) I think that if Rizzuto doesn't get out fairly quick and Sollecito doesn't get over this cancer they are done. Of course you never know with this bunch.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/23/16 07:08 PM

Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
While the papers are calling for the Rizzuto's death up there (we've heard that before) I think that if Rizzuto doesn't get out fairly quick and Sollecito doesn't get over this cancer they are done. Of course you never know with this bunch.


true, but what we don't know the position of Frank Arcadi, he will be out soon. Arcadi always supported the Rizzutos.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/23/16 07:53 PM

Originally Posted By: pmac
Remeber the old guy from up there was at his winter house in florida and the roof collapsed on him his kids were against rizzuto was that officialy called a accident nd what happend to the kids. There businesses were getting fire bombed and they went into hiding?


The old guy's name you are referring to is Domenico Arcuri Sr. The roof of a one-storey industrial garage collapsed. I think it was accidental but some say otherwise. His son's have been low key lately, you don't here much of them.
Posted By: pmac

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/24/16 12:58 AM

Wasnt the arcuri sons a big thing to do with this or did the media portray bad in the start of this. Or i should sy when vito got out of prison. Does anyone know if vito wraped up his 8yrs in colorado thats pretty bad ass i guess a short bid like that to be held in the max no moves or halfway house thing. He was kinda a big deal with clout that could pull strings or just a unlimited amount of money and after his dad n kid was killed the american feds probaly said no way to a prison transfer even to upsate ny i think there a couple federal prisons up there. Fucking cold out tonight had to put my gas on to 65im a cheap prick thAnks canada for the blast of artic air.
Posted By: pmac

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/24/16 01:00 AM

There surposed to accommodate a federal prisoner to the closet 150mile place to his house so for him to be in colorado like 1 2 or 3 years before his release date that shit was being talked about around Washington dc.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/24/16 02:40 PM

Originally Posted By: Hollander
true, but what we don't know the position of Frank Arcadi, he will be out soon. Arcadi always supported the Rizzutos.


I agree. If Arcadi does stay with them it will be huge I think.

Originally Posted By: pmac
Wasnt the arcuri sons a big thing to do with this or did the media portray bad in the start of this. Or i should sy when vito got out of prison. Does anyone know if vito wraped up his 8yrs in colorado thats pretty bad ass i guess a short bid like that to be held in the max no moves or halfway house thing.


I don't think they could do a halfway house deal because he was a Canadian citizen. The U.S. offered him to get out early at sentencing but he would have had to stay in the U.S. until his restrictions were up and he decided against it.
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/24/16 05:08 PM

Another young man has gone missing and has possible links to the Mafia. He was close to Joe Closure, murdered a few years ago.

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...61_section_POS3

Also noticed that this individual has pictures with Marco Campellone, a young man killed last year who was close to Sollecito.

The two brother who have gone missing may have been behind this or part of the same crew.
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/24/16 05:10 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2016/10...-clan-calabrais

Translation:


FÉLIX SÉGUIN
Saturday, October 22, 2016 0:00Update Saturday, October 22, 2016 0:00
The mafiosi Vincenzo Spagnolo, shot in Laval last Saturday, was part of a short list of men to be slaughtered by the Calabrian mafia, according to sources consulted by our Bureau of Investigation.
According to these informants, it appears that the obstacles for a great return to Montreal of the Calabrian mafia, confined for 40 years in the Toronto area, are less and less numerous.
For one of the few times, the police experts and sources speak with one voice; it is a matter of time before the 'Ndrangheta (Calabrian mafia region of Italy) relocates to the metropolis.
"It's not just a matter of revenge of the Calabrian faction that is behind all this recent months, but it is also a clear intention to eradicate the heads of the Sicilian faction of the Montreal Mafia," comments by Pierre De Champlain, former RCMP analyst and researcher on the mafia.
"There will be more killings of people linked to the clan of Vito Rizzuto, it is almost certain," said a source familiar with the tensions in the Italian organized crime in Montreal.
"But the list of individuals to eliminate is beginning to shorten dramatically," the source added.
Toronto-Montreal-Hamilton
The Sûreté du Québec, which is responsible for shedding light on this case, is more cautious. "For the moment, it is too early to advance one hypothesis rather than another because the investigation is just beginning," said Captain Guy Lapointe.
According to our information, there has been a significant increase in back and forth visits of Ontario individuals linked to the Calabrian clan in recent weeks.
Some even come from Hamilton, confirms a source familiar with this matter, and this is not "by chance".
Still in Loreto
Yesterday, for a rainy afternoon, the remains of Vincenzo Spagnolo was exposed to Loreto funeral home in St. Leonard.
An hour after the opening of the visitations, the parking was already crowded.
Under the watchful eye of the police intelligence services, we saw discreetly, family members arrive, Rizzuto, Cammisano and Salvaggio , all relatives of organized crime.
The funeral of the man of 65 years will be celebrated today in the church Notre-Dame-du-Mont-Carmel Saint-Léonard, where many other mafiosi’s before were brought to their final rest.



It's definetly an interesting perspective and seems more convincing than the same theory which was spoken of back in 2009.

What is occuring most likely is local players, remnants of the rival factions, have partnered up to take over.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/24/16 07:22 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment

If it is true that Ontario Calabrian clans are behind all this then you will have some of these clans or ndrine establish themselves in Montreal. That is a pattern of how they operate in other countries or cities.


If they are involved in the war remains to be seen, but I agree that's how they work. Most people don't understand the 'Ndrangheta its a sect.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/24/16 08:00 PM

I agree it does sound more convincing. Felix Sequin in a previous article
stated "For one of the few times, the police experts and sources speak with one voice" and both Montreal mainstream newspapers are more or less advancing the same theory.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/24/16 09:40 PM

Originally Posted By: eurodave
Another young man has gone missing and has possible links to the Mafia. He was close to Joe Closure, murdered a few years ago.

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...61_section_POS3

Also noticed that this individual has pictures with Marco Campellone, a young man killed last year who was close to Sollecito.

The two brother who have gone missing may have been behind this or part of the same crew.


They do like lupara bianca over there.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/24/16 10:12 PM

Originally Posted By: Hollander
Originally Posted By: Ciment

If it is true that Ontario Calabrian clans are behind all this then you will have some of these clans or ndrine establish themselves in Montreal. That is a pattern of how they operate in other countries or cities.


If they are involved in the war remains to be seen, but I agree that's how they work. Most people don't understand the 'Ndrangheta its a sect.


Yes, it will be interesting to know which of the 10 clans from both Toronto & Hamilton are involved.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/24/16 10:27 PM

Originally Posted By: eurodave
Another young man has gone missing and has possible links to the Mafia. He was close to Joe Closure, murdered a few years ago.

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...61_section_POS3

Also noticed that this individual has pictures with Marco Campellone, a young man killed last year who was close to Sollecito.

The two brother who have gone missing may have been behind this or part of the same crew.


The pictures you are talking about are those the ones taken from Marco Campellone funeral because there is one guy that looks like Constantinou ? Also when I read an article about the two missing brothers Falduto, it mentioned that they had ties to the late L.Giordano,it gets a little confusing sometimes.
Posted By: m2w

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/25/16 02:31 PM

at this point there are two strong factions fighting one is probably supported by 'ndrangheta (old cotroni crew) and the other by the caruana-[BadWord]'s (rizzuto) that's why this is a never ending war
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/25/16 10:27 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: Hollander
Originally Posted By: Ciment

If it is true that Ontario Calabrian clans are behind all this then you will have some of these clans or ndrine establish themselves in Montreal. That is a pattern of how they operate in other countries or cities.


If they are involved in the war remains to be seen, but I agree that's how they work. Most people don't understand the 'Ndrangheta its a sect.


Yes, it will be interesting to know which of the 10 clans from both Toronto & Hamilton are involved.


I only know Jimmy DeMaria was considered by police to be a GTA enemy of Vito.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/25/16 11:30 PM

Yes your right he would be one to consider ,his cousin Cortese was in Montreal and was arrested days after Nick Sr. shooting.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/26/16 12:18 AM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
Yes your right he would be to consider ,his cousin Cortese was in Montreal and was arrested days after Nick Sr. shooting.


And according to Italian authorities he has a seat on the Camera di Controllo formed in Toronto in 1962. Vito wanted to expand in Ontario first so it wouldn't be far fetched if it's now the other way around.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/26/16 03:00 AM

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Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/27/16 06:05 PM

Originally Posted By: eurodave
Another young man has gone missing and has possible links to the Mafia. He was close to Joe Closure, murdered a few years ago.

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...61_section_POS3

Also noticed that this individual has pictures with Marco Campellone, a young man killed last year who was close to Sollecito.

The two brother who have gone missing may have been behind this or part of the same crew.


You think the brothers could be behind the murder of Campellone?
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/29/16 02:35 PM

Originally Posted By: m2w
at this point there are two strong factions fighting one is probably supported by 'ndrangheta (old cotroni crew) and the other by the caruana-[BadWord]'s (rizzuto) that's why this is a never ending war


I don't think it's that black and white Arcadi for example has always been a Rizzuto guy, but is very close to 'ndrangheta could be even a member back in Calabria.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/29/16 06:34 PM

Originally Posted By: Hollander
I don't think it's that black and white Arcadi for example has always been a Rizzuto guy, but is very close to 'ndrangheta could be even a member back in Calabria.


I still think he's the most important factor at this point, who does he go with? Will make things interesting for sure.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/29/16 07:41 PM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: eurodave
Another young man has gone missing and has possible links to the Mafia. He was close to Joe Closure, murdered a few years ago.

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...61_section_POS3

Also noticed that this individual has pictures with Marco Campellone, a young man killed last year who was close to Sollecito.

The two brother who have gone missing may have been behind this or part of the same crew.


You think the brothers could be behind the murder of Campellone?


http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...cently-murdered

I believe journalist Daniel Renaud may have made a mistake with Marco Campellone being associated with Sollecito. The Campellone's worked for the Padula brothers who are associated with the Devito clan.
In relation to the Falduto brothers, one of them owned a cafe in a building that was owned by Giordano. This would make them rivals.
Steven Constantinou worked with Carlo Colapelle who is associated with the Desjardin clan. What I see here is a turf war that is still on going.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/29/16 07:43 PM

Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
Originally Posted By: Hollander
I don't think it's that black and white Arcadi for example has always been a Rizzuto guy, but is very close to 'ndrangheta could be even a member back in Calabria.


I still think he's the most important factor at this point, who does he go with? Will make things interesting for sure.


Yes he was the streetboss when Vito was away and no doubt he's still pulling strings from behind bars.
Posted By: m2w

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/31/16 01:15 PM

Originally Posted By: Hollander
I don't think it's that black and white Arcadi for example has always been a Rizzuto guy, but is very close to 'ndrangheta could be even a member back in Calabria.


it's right that the so-called sicilian and calabrian factions are mixep up with even not-italians, but as i said the sicilians are supported by the caruana-c untrera's and the calabrians by gta ndrangheta... the alliance beteween caruana- c untrera's and ndrangheta broke after the murdr of agostino cun trera and the murders of moreno gallo, verduci and calautti are sure carried out by the caruana- c untrera's
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/31/16 08:12 PM

Originally Posted By: m2w
Originally Posted By: Hollander
I don't think it's that black and white Arcadi for example has always been a Rizzuto guy, but is very close to 'ndrangheta could be even a member back in Calabria.


it's right that the so-called sicilian and calabrian factions are mixep up with even not-italians, but as i said the sicilians are supported by the caruana-c untrera's and the calabrians by gta ndrangheta... the alliance beteween caruana- c untrera's and ndrangheta broke after the murdr of agostino cun trera and the murders of moreno gallo, verduci and calautti are sure carried out by the caruana- c untrera's


The book "Business or Blood" page 144 contradicts your statement.

Business or Blood quotes:

"What the surveillance officers saw immediately after the funeral visitation might have shocked even Vito. Stalteri's mourners climbed onto a chartered bus and rode off to the anniversary reception for the [BadWord]. How could this be possible ? Weren't they mortal,blood enemies?
And yet it was clearly happening. Members of both the Sicilian and Calabrian factions of Canadian organized crime, including reps. from Hamilton,York Region,Ottawa,Montreal and Sherbrooke,Quebec, were breaking bread together as if they were on some mob version of homecoming week."

The author further down the page writes' quote:
"It was unthinkable, but it was happening right in front of the intelligence officers. What police witnessed was bonding between the Ontario Sicilians and the Ndrangheta, less than seven months after the murders of Agostino [BadWord] and his bodyguard in Montreal, and two months after the murder of Nicolo. It had been widely assumed that the Sicilians and the Calabrians mobsters were at war in, Montreal but that was clearly not the case in Toronto."

The author had more to say on this subject but you get the message.

Police intelligence picked up conversations and Verduci killing was a thing between Calabrians. Calautti owed money and had many enemies, hard to pinpoint if it was ordered by Rizzuto or the Ontario Ndrangheta.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/31/16 08:34 PM

Yes Climent I remember antimafia posting about that golden wedding anniversary in Vaughan, but we didn't know at the time it was that of Paolo Cun trera.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/01/16 12:01 PM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2016/10...e-de-sa-voiture

The body of Steven Constantinou found in trunk of a car.

MONTREAL - The body of a man found in the trunk of a car Monday morning in Saint-Leonard area, Montreal, would be that of Steven Constantinou, a man linked to the Montreal Mafia missing for three weeks QMI Agency has learned.
The investigation into the disappearance of the young man of 22 years is now a murder.
It is not known yet how the victim was murdered and how long the crime was committed.

Earlier this month, the Montreal police had issued a notice of disappearance concerning Constantinou and asking the public's help to find him.
The body was discovered in the trunk of a black Dodge Caliber parked on Avenue Paul-Émile-Lamarche near the rue du Creusot. This is the same car with which Constantinou had left his home in the borough of LaSalle, October 8. He then mentioned his family that he was going out shopping, but he never returned home. He was never seen alive either.

Reached by telephone QMI Agency, the young man's mother was inconsolable. She would not react to the murder of his son. "I'm sorry, but that's not the right time to talk," she breathed, the faint voice.
Reportedly, Steven Constantinou would have already had business ties with Giuseppe "Closure" Colapelle, a major drug importer related to Italian organized crime. Colapelle was shot in March 2012 while he was in his vehicle parked in the parking lot of the bar Beaches, in the Saint-Leonard neighborhood.
Connections to larger sizes
According to our sources, Steven Constantinou also had links with two heavyweights of the Montreal Mafia, or Marco Pizzi and Liborio "Poncho" [BadWord]. These have both been pinned in May as part of a major police operation of the RCMP against the Montreal Mafia.
The murder of Steven Constantinou is the 18th to take place in Montreal since the beginning of the year. No arrests have yet been made in connection with this crime.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/01/16 01:17 PM

^^^^
The vehicle was found close to Ital Gelati, owned by the Arcuri family. Is there any significance?

https://goo.gl/maps/Qs8DFBS45iC2
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/01/16 03:04 PM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
^^^^
The vehicle was found close to Ital Gelati, owned by the Arcuri family. Is there any significance?

https://goo.gl/maps/Qs8DFBS45iC2


Possible but unlikely...it's also within walking distance of Cun-trera's food business. Hard to say why there

This young man was also good friends with Campellone, murdered last year.

Something is definetely going on if young aspiring men are getting clipped. It was quite uncommon before Operation Colisee to see young mid-level guys get whacked.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/01/16 07:35 PM

For them to leave the car within walking distance is definitely
a message.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/01/16 09:19 PM

^^^^
So 240 m (787 ft.) from Ital Gelati, and 400 m (1,312 ft.) from Distribution John & Dino.

That area sure has seen some significant mob-related crime in the last few years. There was also that firebombing of Garage Car-Pro, right beside Ital-Gelati, in 2012--"collateral damage" is what the media called it.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/01/16 09:24 PM

This guy has been missing since Oct. 8, 2016. I wonder why it took the cops that long to find the car ?
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/02/16 12:32 AM

@Climent

Great catch there, I saw that post and remembered the paragraph in Business or Blood, that you just posted but I couldn't remember exactly where in the book it was. Great point there.

I had a little bit of a frustrating convo in another thread, ( I still love you Alfa lol) I actually think the CC clan were the real controllers of the Rizzutos, not really the Bonnanos. I also believe that they are so important to European OC, and the European drug trade in general, that they are TOO BIG to deal with one mafia, or one city, or even one continent.

I I asked before, where the CC clan fits in as far as the power structure today. I know there was a list of Bosses posted, the Scoppas, Dejardins, and a [BadWord]-Ra? Or is it a Caruana? I gotta check again....
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/02/16 11:00 AM

Originally Posted By: CabriniGreen


I actually think the CC clan were the real controllers of the Rizzutos, not really the Bonnanos. I also believe that they are so important to European OC, and the European drug trade in general, that they are TOO BIG to deal with one mafia, or one city, or even one continent.


That's right. Alfonso Caruana will be out in about 36 months I think, he planned to return to Canada. I'm sure he has still the support of the 'ndrangheta.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/02/16 07:18 PM

Originally Posted By: CabriniGreen
@Climent

Great catch there, I saw that post and remembered the paragraph in Business or Blood, that you just posted but I couldn't remember exactly where in the book it was. Great point there.

I had a little bit of a frustrating convo in another thread, ( I still love you Alfa lol) I actually think the CC clan were the real controllers of the Rizzutos, not really the Bonnanos. I also believe that they are so important to European OC, and the European drug trade in general, that they are TOO BIG to deal with one mafia, or one city, or even one continent.

I I asked before, where the CC clan fits in as far as the power structure today. I know there was a list of Bosses posted, the Scoppas, Dejardins, and a [BadWord]-Ra? Or is it a Caruana? I gotta check again....


In my opinion the Caruana/Cun trera clan are very influential and wealthy. As you already know,their interest is more in drug import/export and money laundering. With the exception of their cousin Agostino & son who decided to join the ranks in Montreal,they are more in building drug trading alliances with other OC clans worldwide. I believe Rizzuto's success was build on that alliance he had with the Caruana/Cun trera clan.I think the Rizzuto's needed them more than the other way around.
With regards to the Bonnano's and again it is my opinion, the Rizzuto's used the LCN to serve their own purpose, their true loyalty lie with their own Sicilian clan at home and abroad.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/02/16 07:29 PM

http://www.thesundayleader.lk/2016/10/03/lankan-scapegoats-of-global-drug-trafficking-mafia/

Cabrini, I know it's a little off topic but I came across this article that I find may interest you,seeing that you like to comment on how drugs are being shipped.
Posted By: BillyBrizzi

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/02/16 08:09 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://www.thesundayleader.lk/2016/10/03/lankan-scapegoats-of-global-drug-trafficking-mafia/

Cabrini, I know it's a little off topic but I came across this article that I find may interest you,seeing that you like to comment on how drugs are being shipped.


Very interesting article, thanks Ciment..
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/03/16 02:12 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: CabriniGreen
@Climent

Great catch there, I saw that post and remembered the paragraph in Business or Blood, that you just posted but I couldn't remember exactly where in the book it was. Great point there.

I had a little bit of a frustrating convo in another thread, ( I still love you Alfa lol) I actually think the CC clan were the real controllers of the Rizzutos, not really the Bonnanos. I also believe that they are so important to European OC, and the European drug trade in general, that they are TOO BIG to deal with one mafia, or one city, or even one continent.

I I asked before, where the CC clan fits in as far as the power structure today. I know there was a list of Bosses posted, the Scoppas, Dejardins, and a [BadWord]-Ra? Or is it a Caruana? I gotta check again....


In my opinion the Caruana/Cun trera clan are very influential and wealthy. As you already know,their interest is more in drug import/export and money laundering. With the exception of their cousin Agostino & son who decided to join the ranks in Montreal,they are more in building drug trading alliances with other OC clans worldwide. I believe Rizzuto's success was build on that alliance he had with the Caruana/Cun trera clan.I think the Rizzuto's needed them more than the other way around.
With regards to the Bonnano's and again it is my opinion, the Rizzuto's used the LCN to serve their own purpose, their true loyalty lie with their own Sicilian clan at home and abroad.


Although I'm sure still influential, I personally think their role and influenced has diminished over the last 15 years or so.

Recent investigations in Italy continually show how Catania and Palermo families get their coke from the Calabrians. This pattern seem to replicate itself in parts of NYC so why wouldn't it happen here in Canada?

The Ndrangheta is moving tons of blow around the globe daily, on behalf of and for other organizations as well.

Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/03/16 03:36 PM

@eurodave


I'm sure you are correct there. It's something I noticed a long time ago. Sinaloa over here, Ndrangheta over there, plus Ontario. Add in the Calabrian infiltration of places like Milan, Germany and they have their own laundering networks as well.


I just notice a lot of guys seem to want to follow who got killed. What faction, how many soldiers, what rank. I just follow the drugs, it leads RIGHT to who's really in charge. Everything else is a realignment of business interest in regards to whomever is controlling the flow of narcotics. That's where the power is. Who has the connect, who can get it from here to there, who can distribute it. Figure those out, and the rank and all that sorts itself out... That's my take on it anyway..

Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/03/16 03:41 PM

@ciment

Great find on that article, I read a little on how the Calabrian clans work the docks there. I was surprised to find out there was no like central control mechanism like a union. It's just the dock is so vast and under policed that they just " Rob" the contraband before anyone can be any wiser. It's kinda "Democratized" any clan can create contacts at the docks from what I could gather.

It gives more insight to the NY operations, with Calabrian families setting up routes outside the Siderno groups operations. Sending it to their own contacts at the docks on the other end.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/03/16 06:57 PM

Originally Posted By: eurodave
Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: CabriniGreen
@Climent

Great catch there, I saw that post and remembered the paragraph in Business or Blood, that you just posted but I couldn't remember exactly where in the book it was. Great point there.

I had a little bit of a frustrating convo in another thread, ( I still love you Alfa lol) I actually think the CC clan were the real controllers of the Rizzutos, not really the Bonnanos. I also believe that they are so important to European OC, and the European drug trade in general, that they are TOO BIG to deal with one mafia, or one city, or even one continent.

I I asked before, where the CC clan fits in as far as the power structure today. I know there was a list of Bosses posted, the Scoppas, Dejardins, and a [BadWord]-Ra? Or is it a Caruana? I gotta check again....


In my opinion the Caruana/Cun trera clan are very influential and wealthy. As you already know,their interest is more in drug import/export and money laundering. With the exception of their cousin Agostino & son who decided to join the ranks in Montreal,they are more in building drug trading alliances with other OC clans worldwide. I believe Rizzuto's success was build on that alliance he had with the Caruana/Cun trera clan.I think the Rizzuto's needed them more than the other way around.
With regards to the Bonnano's and again it is my opinion, the Rizzuto's used the LCN to serve their own purpose, their true loyalty lie with their own Sicilian clan at home and abroad.


Although I'm sure still influential, I personally think their role and influenced has diminished over the last 15 years or so.

Recent investigations in Italy continually show how Catania and Palermo families get their coke from the Calabrians. This pattern seem to replicate itself in parts of NYC so why wouldn't it happen here in Canada?

The Ndrangheta is moving tons of blow around the globe daily, on behalf of and for other organizations as well.



I agree with you Eurodave, I was in no way comparing them with the Ndrangheta, I was comparing Caruana/Cun trera with the Rizzuto's in reference to Cabrini's post. I understood the CC clan as being Caruana/Cun trera unless I misunderstood what CC clan stands for.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/03/16 09:43 PM

Originally Posted By: eurodave


Although I'm sure still influential, I personally think their role and influenced has diminished over the last 15 years or so.

Recent investigations in Italy continually show how Catania and Palermo families get their coke from the Calabrians. This pattern seem to replicate itself in parts of NYC so why wouldn't it happen here in Canada?

The Ndrangheta is moving tons of blow around the globe daily, on behalf of and for other organizations as well.



Cosa Nostra is still recovering from it's war against the italian state, but Provenzano as well as Messina Denaro have brought them back on the international level. Younger guys like Big Joe Cun trera will benefit from that. I send you a pm Dave.
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/04/16 06:21 AM

I see the CC clan as like, the Colombia to the Calabrians Mexico. The predecessors and their inheritors. As far as the European and Canadian markets are concerned.

Maybe you guys can shed some light, WHEN exactly did Ndrangheta become dominant in the cocaine trade? It seems to have been a gradual thing... Any idea on what years this takeover became complete? I'm thinking between like 2000-2010? Somewhere in there?

Any thoughts?
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/04/16 02:20 PM

Originally Posted By: CabriniGreen
I see the CC clan as like, the Colombia to the Calabrians Mexico. The predecessors and their inheritors. As far as the European and Canadian markets are concerned.

Maybe you guys can shed some light, WHEN exactly did Ndrangheta become dominant in the cocaine trade? It seems to have been a gradual thing... Any idea on what years this takeover became complete? I'm thinking between like 2000-2010? Somewhere in there?

Any thoughts?


I recall reading news back in 2005 or 2006 not only about the 'ndrangheta's dominance in the European cocaine market but also the 'ndrangheta's having eclipsed the Sicilian Costa Nostra as Italy's largest criminal group.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/04/16 02:36 PM

In the late 1990's.
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/04/16 03:02 PM

Originally Posted By: CabriniGreen
I see the CC clan as like, the Colombia to the Calabrians Mexico. The predecessors and their inheritors. As far as the European and Canadian markets are concerned.

Maybe you guys can shed some light, WHEN exactly did Ndrangheta become dominant in the cocaine trade? It seems to have been a gradual thing... Any idea on what years this takeover became complete? I'm thinking between like 2000-2010? Somewhere in there?

Any thoughts?


It seems the Cosa Nostra clans starting losing some clout in the mid to late 90's. At that time or before, Calabrian clans from all over Reggio were buying or importing blow via their Sicilian contacts while establishing their own routes. Aynone remember the 94' bust from the CC clan in Torino? That load was destined to Cosa Nostra and Ndrangheta consortium.

By the late 90's, they had established themselves well in Latin America and began brokering for ndrine all over the world and also for Sicilians and Neapolitans.

Their rise to prominance most likely began early 2000's and due to their secrecy and lack of informants, the organization prospered. It seems they've consolidated their power the most in the last 10 years in North America, mainly the Toronto-NYC-Montreal mafia trifecta, eclipsing on an import-export base, the traditional LCN routes.

What I find intriguing is how the calabrians operate below the radar, functioning on a cartel model, buying and moving huge quantities of blow around the globe in groups, therefore making it harder to pinpoint one specific leader, where as many knew for years that Vito and the CC were the go to guys for Montreal and transplanted Sicilians.

Who truly leads the GTA families? who calls the shots? is it back home?

Also worthy of mention is an anecdote in the book the sixth family which revealed intercepted conversations between Vito and Zappia about the potential bridge scheme between continent and Sicily. In this convo, Zappia states that both parties need to be happy and how the Calabrians are stronger, more organized and have better political contacts. This was 2003-2004

" Perché lì si deve fare il ponte tenendo contenti tutti quelli della Sicilia, la gang, capisci? In questo affare c’è moneta per loro. Ti dico un’altra cosa: è che c’è un lato la mafia, la Sicilia. Di quell’altro posto c’è la ‘ndrangheta. La ‘ndrangheta calabrese è più forte della cosa siciliana, sì, basata su attività di costruzione e di attività anche di influenza politica. Sono più organizzati i calabresi che i siciliani. Allora la ‘ndrangheta è più forte della mafia>>.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/04/16 04:50 PM

Originally Posted By: eurodave

Also worthy of mention is an anecdote in the book the sixth family which revealed intercepted conversations between Vito and Zappia about the potential bridge scheme between continent and Sicily. In this convo, Zappia states that both parties need to be happy and how the Calabrians are stronger, more organized and have better political contacts. This was 2003-2004

" Perché lì si deve fare il ponte tenendo contenti tutti quelli della Sicilia, la gang, capisci? In questo affare c’è moneta per loro. Ti dico un’altra cosa: è che c’è un lato la mafia, la Sicilia. Di quell’altro posto c’è la ‘ndrangheta. La ‘ndrangheta calabrese è più forte della cosa siciliana, sì, basata su attività di costruzione e di attività anche di influenza politica. Sono più organizzati i calabresi che i siciliani. Allora la ‘ndrangheta è più forte della mafia>>.


Dave, the Italian quote above is an excerpt of a phone conversation between Giuseppe Zappia and Filippo Ranieri. The excerpt does not appear in either English or Italian in the three English-language editions of The Sixth Family, but that quote and the larger excerpt were indeed widely reported in the Italian media.
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/04/16 05:13 PM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
Originally Posted By: eurodave

Also worthy of mention is an anecdote in the book the sixth family which revealed intercepted conversations between Vito and Zappia about the potential bridge scheme between continent and Sicily. In this convo, Zappia states that both parties need to be happy and how the Calabrians are stronger, more organized and have better political contacts. This was 2003-2004

" Perché lì si deve fare il ponte tenendo contenti tutti quelli della Sicilia, la gang, capisci? In questo affare c’è moneta per loro. Ti dico un’altra cosa: è che c’è un lato la mafia, la Sicilia. Di quell’altro posto c’è la ‘ndrangheta. La ‘ndrangheta calabrese è più forte della cosa siciliana, sì, basata su attività di costruzione e di attività anche di influenza politica. Sono più organizzati i calabresi che i siciliani. Allora la ‘ndrangheta è più forte della mafia>>.


Dave, the Italian quote above is an excerpt of a phone conversation between Giuseppe Zappia and Filippo Ranieri. The excerpt does not appear in either English or Italian in the three English-language editions of The Sixth Family, but that quote and the larger excerpt were indeed widely reported in the Italian media.


My bad, it was from Italian law enforcement.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/04/16 05:24 PM

Originally Posted By: eurodave


Who truly leads the GTA families? who calls the shots? is it back home?


I think so, they all report directly to bosses in Calabria and profits are funnelled back to the mother organisation.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/04/16 07:07 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: CabriniGreen
I gotta confirm, Sinatra Club called that Scoppa thing forever ago, before it came out in the papers, I was quite impressed frankly lol


Nothing has come out in the papers about the Scoppa brothers yet. It's only speculation.


http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...s-policiers.php

For the record the Scoppa's were mentioned in various articles dating back over a decade. The one I posted above dates Oct. 14 2014. Daniel Renaud has been writing about them for years. This pre-dates claims by a certain individual on these posts, that said he called it months ago.
Eurodave is correct he was an associate of Gallo at one time, they do carry weight. They were neutral at first when the war began but now considered rivals.
They are Calabrian. Some of his associates were/are DeVito (Calabrian), Piccirilli(Calabrian),Mirarchi(Calabrian).They all have close ties with the bikers MC (Cazzetta). Most of them made trips to Ontario. If you connect the dots you get the big picture.


For the record, no. Because I was specifically referring to the Scoppa's & their involvement in recent going ons, not just bringing them up for the sake of conversating about them, which is what Cabrini is saying. And Sonny Black is right, nothing ever came out in the papers about them being involved, other than the article that's been linked which mentions the both of them possibly being a part of the new "Montreal Mafia consortium" or whatever you want to call it. Which along with personal research, is what I used to base my theory that they COULD be one of the parties behind all of this.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/04/16 09:44 PM

Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: CabriniGreen
I gotta confirm, Sinatra Club called that Scoppa thing forever ago, before it came out in the papers, I was quite impressed frankly lol


Nothing has come out in the papers about the Scoppa brothers yet. It's only speculation.


http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...s-policiers.php

For the record the Scoppa's were mentioned in various articles dating back over a decade. The one I posted above dates Oct. 14 2014. Daniel Renaud has been writing about them for years. This pre-dates claims by a certain individual on these posts, that said he called it months ago.
Eurodave is correct he was an associate of Gallo at one time, they do carry weight. They were neutral at first when the war began but now considered rivals.
They are Calabrian. Some of his associates were/are DeVito (Calabrian), Piccirilli(Calabrian),Mirarchi(Calabrian).They all have close ties with the bikers MC (Cazzetta). Most of them made trips to Ontario. If you connect the dots you get the big picture.


For the record, no. Because I was specifically referring to the Scoppa's & their involvement in recent going ons, not just bringing them up for the sake of conversating about them, which is what Cabrini is saying. And Sonny Black is right, nothing ever came out in the papers about them being involved, other than the article that's been linked which mentions the both of them possibly being a part of the new "Montreal Mafia consortium" or whatever you want to call it. Which along with personal research, is what I used to base my theory that they COULD be one of the parties behind all of this.


When you brought him up then, I told you that I had read about him before. Daniel Renaud has written about him in the the Journal de Montreal and Daniel also wrote about him while working at LaPresse.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/05/16 03:04 AM

Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: CabriniGreen
I gotta confirm, Sinatra Club called that Scoppa thing forever ago, before it came out in the papers, I was quite impressed frankly lol


Nothing has come out in the papers about the Scoppa brothers yet. It's only speculation.


http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...s-policiers.php

For the record the Scoppa's were mentioned in various articles dating back over a decade. The one I posted above dates Oct. 14 2014. Daniel Renaud has been writing about them for years. This pre-dates claims by a certain individual on these posts, that said he called it months ago.
Eurodave is correct he was an associate of Gallo at one time, they do carry weight. They were neutral at first when the war began but now considered rivals.
They are Calabrian. Some of his associates were/are DeVito (Calabrian), Piccirilli(Calabrian),Mirarchi(Calabrian).They all have close ties with the bikers MC (Cazzetta). Most of them made trips to Ontario. If you connect the dots you get the big picture.


For the record, no. Because I was specifically referring to the Scoppa's & their involvement in recent going ons, not just bringing them up for the sake of conversating about them, which is what Cabrini is saying. And Sonny Black is right, nothing ever came out in the papers about them being involved, other than the article that's been linked which mentions the both of them possibly being a part of the new "Montreal Mafia consortium" or whatever you want to call it. Which along with personal research, is what I used to base my theory that they COULD be one of the parties behind all of this.


Furthermore, since you mention Sonny Black and Cabrini. Unlike you, I can dialogue with them. They don't pretend to know everything. They are not condescending.It is okay to disagree and respect each other. You seem to get along with them but for some reason we do not see eye to eye.
I know we started on the wrong footage prior to this Scoppa thing and I am willing to extend an olive branch; provided that we start anew with mutual respect. It's your call.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/05/16 10:32 AM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
Originally Posted By: CabriniGreen
I see the CC clan as like, the Colombia to the Calabrians Mexico. The predecessors and their inheritors. As far as the European and Canadian markets are concerned.

Maybe you guys can shed some light, WHEN exactly did Ndrangheta become dominant in the cocaine trade? It seems to have been a gradual thing... Any idea on what years this takeover became complete? I'm thinking between like 2000-2010? Somewhere in there?

Any thoughts?


I recall reading news back in 2005 or 2006 not only about the 'ndrangheta's dominance in the European cocaine market but also the 'ndrangheta's having eclipsed the Sicilian Costa Nostra as Italy's largest criminal group.


You only have to look at all the police operations and trials in Italy the 'Ndrangheta is everywhere. Cosa Nostra only in Sicily, Milan and Rome. I send you a PM.

Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/05/16 11:17 AM

@ eurodave

I do remember that bust, the 5000 plus kilo one right? It's what really caught my eye as far as the Italians and the worldwide narcotic routes. That was in like 94, by the 2000s, the Mexicans were the only ones capable of such loads to the US.

And then I'm reading about the Calabrian dominance in Europe. Then I read about how they are dominant in Toronto. Then you read about the demise of Sicily. The Rizzutos being kinda cut off from NY, to me, it looked like they really only controlled Montreal. And that was based on a dominance in the Narcotics routes. So to me the writing was on the wall, that they sooner or later were going to be eclipsed by the Calabrians.

But a lot of guys STILL believe their strenghth was based on the number of Made guys or whatever. I say follow the connects and routes, see who's at the end of them. It leads to the power....
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/05/16 11:23 AM

@ Hollander

You are right, Costa Nostra in Sicily, Milan and Rome. Camorra is dominant IN Naples, maybe parts of Eastern Europe like the Chech Republic?( I say this because Saviano said the Licciardis monopolized criminal activity in the Chech Republic..) And Spain I think, I think the Camorra is very deep in Spain. They also control the INTERNAL narcotics markets in Italy I think. And they don't seem to travel abroad AT ALL...

But the Calabrians are EVERYWHERE, INCLUDING NEW YORK now. Australia, Ontario and now probably Montreal. Germany, maybe France? I'm assuming they supply the United Kingdom, although there was a Camorra clan that was HUUUUGE in Scotland the LaTorres. Basically the rest of Europe is theirs....
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/05/16 01:01 PM

The Camorra doesn't have to emigrate like the Calabrians do nor do they need to. It's all about geography and culture.

Naples as a city is rather big and it's surrounding areas are densely populated therefore the napolitani have a huge retail market to work with.

Calabria is the opposite mainly composed of smaller towns in the country side. The strongest most powerful families come from villages with no more than 5000 people. Calabrias largest city has maybe 300000k people. Compare that to Naples or even Palermo.

The calabrians emigrated and exported their crime syndicate with it. They have blood relatives in Canada Australia Germany Argentina and USA. The reason you hear less of them is that culturally speaking they are less flamboyant than either Sicilians and napolitani. They fly under the radar and would rather not be known....which by product makes their syndicate less interesting for tabloids as opposed to some camorra war or don Corleone war here in Montreal.

The truth is that everyone in italy now fears and respects the ndrangheta...when they talk others follow. Here's a video of how Cosa nostra in its hey day paid off ndrangheta just to avoid them.

https://youtu.be/LdzAsfw0_eA
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/05/16 01:27 PM

The Calabrians are also working often with local criminal groups for example in the ports of Antwerp and Rotterdam.
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/06/16 04:22 AM

@eurodave


I'm right there with you. You can look at my post history, I've pretty much said the same things. Naples is URBAN, the Calabrians and Sicilians are RURAL.
I've posted on how the rural mafias have to move around the world because their surroundings simply don't have enough INDUSTRY to siphon wealth from. It was part of a long drawn out post about the difference between " Power syndicates" and "Enterprise Syndicates".

The Naples clans control the INTERNAL markets in Italy, they are in the streets. It's why I don't necessarily agree that they are " Less" organized, like you say, the culture and criminal methodology is a little different.
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/06/16 01:44 PM

100% agree....Naples and to a lesser extent Cosa Nostra is highly concentrated in their geographical area although the Sicilians have always had a hard time managing urban mafia clans vs more rural clans.

The Sicilians and camorra are also very present in central and n9rthern italy and it seemseems from Italian police investigations that the three syndicates divide territory accordingly therefore rarely if ever going to war. To be honest the Canadian situation seems to be more unique where the rivalry seems more plausible.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/06/16 04:56 PM

Not related to Montreal, but it's interesting that in Australia they used a calabrian hitman in the murder of gangland lawyer Joe Acquaro on March 15. The Italian man flew back to his homeland in the days after the murder and was detained at an airport for questioning before being released.
Posted By: BillyBrizzi

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/06/16 05:37 PM

Originally Posted By: CabriniGreen
@eurodave


I'm right there with you. You can look at my post history, I've pretty much said the same things. Naples is URBAN, the Calabrians and Sicilians are RURAL.
I've posted on how the rural mafias have to move around the world because their surroundings simply don't have enough INDUSTRY to siphon wealth from. It was part of a long drawn out post about the difference between " Power syndicates" and "Enterprise Syndicates".

The Naples clans control the INTERNAL markets in Italy, they are in the streets. It's why I don't necessarily agree that they are " Less" organized, like you say, the culture and criminal methodology is a little different.


You're a fuckin criminologist CC, for real..
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/06/16 09:27 PM

Originally Posted By: CabriniGreen
@ eurodave

I do remember that bust, the 5000 plus kilo one right? It's what really caught my eye as far as the Italians and the worldwide narcotic routes. That was in like 94, by the 2000s, the Mexicans were the only ones capable of such loads to the US.

And then I'm reading about the Calabrian dominance in Europe. Then I read about how they are dominant in Toronto. Then you read about the demise of Sicily. The Rizzutos being kinda cut off from NY, to me, it looked like they really only controlled Montreal. And that was based on a dominance in the Narcotics routes. So to me the writing was on the wall, that they sooner or later were going to be eclipsed by the Calabrians.

But a lot of guys STILL believe their strenghth was based on the number of Made guys or whatever. I say follow the connects and routes, see who's at the end of them. It leads to the power....


In my opinion, you should look at several factors:

* the relative size of the Montreal Mafia in Quebec and the Greater Toronto Area Siderno Group in Ontario;

* how many people involved or associated with those criminal organizations engage in drug importation and trafficking (regardless of whether these individuals are inducted members or not);

* whether criminals in Quebec (Italian and otherwise) had already been buying cocaine from the GTA Siderno Group during the ongoing Montreal mob war;

* whether criminals in Quebec (Italian and otherwise) would still be able to get their coke through other suppliers even if the Siderno Group were to develop a stranglehold on the supply of cocaine through the Port of Montreal;

* control of drug importation at the Port of Montreal, i.e., corruption of stevedores and checkers;

* the level of importation of cocaine at other Canadian maritime ports (Halifax, Vancouver, Saint John, St. John's, Windsor);

* the distribution of cocaine in the aforementioned provinces (as well as provinces west of Ontario and east of Quebec);

* the current flow of narcotics;

* the current drug routes; and

* the intended remapping of the flow and routes.

The last bullet point is particularly important, as the posters arguing in this thread that the takeover of the Montreal underworld by the 'ndrangheta (read: Siderno Group) is a fait accompli are convinced that the Siderno Group will soon be flooding New York City with cocaine. How? By importing the cocaine through the Port of Montreal and then smuggling it over the Canadian border over land and into New York State.

For many years now, there has been no evidence that major or minor shipments of coke are being smuggled into the US from Canada.

Most cocaine being smuggled into Canada (the destination country) passes through the United States (transit country). The cocaine has been primarily getting into Canada over land through border points via vehicles (mostly commercial). The cocaine has also been getting through Canadian maritime ports and, to a lesser extent, through airports and parcel (for example, through the Léo-Blanchette mail processing centre, which is located in Saint-Laurent, Quebec).

The provenance of the cocaine entering Canada is known in general terms--we know the source countries are typically Colombia, Peru, and Bolivia (but not just those countries); we know that before the coke destined for Canada goes through the US, other transit countries may include Jamaica, Haiti, the Dominican Republic, or others. We also know that insofar as the cocaine entering Canada bypasses the continental US, the route is usually Mexico, up the Pacific Ocean, and into British Columbia.

When articles were written about Carmine Verduci right after his murder, we were privileged to learn in Peter Edwards's story that the route for the cocaine he was smuggling into Canada was Mexico–British Columbia–Ontario. I write "privileged" because that level of detail is hardly ever publicly available, as it is used as police intelligence. Posters on these forums, like me, can rely on newspaper articles, government-issued organized-crime backgrounders, and anti-drug institutional reports all we want; however, there are limitations to using such information. For example, you can read about cocaine smuggling routes, but the reports will only list source and destination countries. So whenever there has been a drug seizure involving cocaine in the last few years in Quebec and Ontario--not to mention in other Canadian provinces--you will read in the newspapers a list of criminals or groups charged but you won't ever find out where the cocaine came from and all the other places the cocaine travelled en route before arriving in the hands of the people charged.

There is so much more that I can write about each of the bullet points I listed farther above, but that's a lot of work. So I will just mention for now that I think we should keep a particular eye on the interaction between the Hells Angels in Ontario and those in Quebec. The fairly recent mass release of all the Hells Angels in Quebec who were originally charged in Project SharQc may have ramifications down the road if there haven't been some consequences already. Some Hells Angels chapters in both provinces have influence and control over particular Hells chapters and puppet clubs in Newfoundland, Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, and Prince Edward Island. Those of you who have read last year's Business or Blood know that the largest funeral wreath seen at Vito Rizzuto's funeral services came from the Ontario Hells; however, the landscape may have changed since the aforementioned release of all those Hells in Quebec. Similarly, although Salvatore Cazzetta seems to have been allied with the Montreal Mafia leadership after Rizzuto's death, he is now in jail--while Cazzetta is the face of the Hells in Quebec and is an influential crime figure, he may be impotent to stop any important developments he may not like within the organization.
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/07/16 10:28 AM

@ Billybrizzi

Thanks man, I appreciate it lol..

@antimafia


Preach!!! Great post my man, +100

My head hurt when I read some past post in another thread about the Queens NY Calabrian bust. Everyone ( and this included respected guys on here like Pizzaboy and Ivy) they all assumed they were just some mutts pushing blow in the streets of NY. When it was like you pointed out, they were using NY as a TRANSIT POINT to ship it to Europe. (I think I pointed out before,the main route went through the Panama Canal, never even went over land..) It's interesting that coke TO Canada, goes THROUGH the US OVER land.....

I know what you mean about trying to explain it in a couple post. It's like so much information, I think I irritate people with the size of some of my post, yet I always feel like Im only scratching the surface of what I REALLY want to say lol....



Those are some great bullet points, I can't disagree with any of it.
That point you made of no Italiangroups smuggling coke into the US. You wouldn't believe the argument I had trying to explain this to Alfa. I couldn't get him to understand that coke in the US in the 80s meant Medillin cartel, 90s Cali Cartel, and 2000s and beyond, Mexican-cartels.

I like how you point out, coke through the port of Montreal doesn't even make sense if you look at a map. Another reason I was looking hard at the Rizzutos like, How are they maintaining?
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/07/16 02:10 PM

@antimafia great post as usual

Now I would like to know what you think of the following:

I personally don't think the Siderno boys are directly implicated in the Montreal situation, physically speaking of course.

That being said, considering the number of visits that local Montreal players have made in the GTA to members of the Siderno group and others, what's your take on that?

I ask because partnerships, drug routes, kickbacks and so forth are and have always been flexible and not static. Friends today can be enemies tomorrow, money and reliability triumph ethnicity in Canada.

Why and for what reason are members of the Montreal mafia visiting the GTA? Clearly it's not for the cannolis or coffee...Montreal has that covered.

Montagna, Piccirilli, De Vito, Mirarchi and co..
Posted By: Alfa Romeo

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/07/16 03:48 PM

Quote:
You wouldn't believe the argument I had trying to explain this to Alfa. I couldn't get him to understand that coke in the US in the 80s meant Medillin cartel, 90s Cali Cartel, and 2000s and beyond, Mexican-cartels.


lollollol

Cabrini, you guys are more knowledgeable in this area than myself. My point in our original debate was that the Rizzuto group was receiving dope or whatever, into Canada, on behalf of the Bonannos. It really matters not whether the contraband was sent downwards into the States, or sold retail in Canada. My point was that there was very likely a Caruana/C[untrera-Rizzuto-Bonanno axis, with the Rizzutos receiving financing from the Bonannos to function as intermediaries. Could I be wrong? Of course. But I don't believe I am.

Edit: I think it might be time to differentiate between smack (heroin) and coke. This because the coke might have been travelling upwards, but the heroin might have been travelling down [into the United States], simultaneously. Someone somewhere might have even said that one type of narcotic was used to trade for the other, as a means of payment. No money changing hands, imagine that. Opinions?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/07/16 09:53 PM

Originally Posted By: eurodave
@antimafia great post as usual

Now I would like to know what you think of the following:

I personally don't think the Siderno boys are directly implicated in the Montreal situation, physically speaking of course.

That being said, considering the number of visits that local Montreal players have made in the GTA to members of the Siderno group and others, what's your take on that?

I ask because partnerships, drug routes, kickbacks and so forth are and have always been flexible and not static. Friends today can be enemies tomorrow, money and reliability triumph ethnicity in Canada.

Why and for what reason are members of the Montreal mafia visiting the GTA? Clearly it's not for the cannolis or coffee...Montreal has that covered.

Montagna, Piccirilli, De Vito, Mirarchi and co..


The book Business or Blood makes at least a dozen references about meetings between Montreal mafia members(rival to Rizzuto) having meetings with the GTA and Hamilton Ndrangheta members.
There was another mention that struck my interest,quote:
"Vito had never really liked members of the Commisso Ndrangheta family. How things stood with Carmelo Bruzzese wasn't so clear.They had once been friendly, but Bruzzese's son-in-law was Antonio Coluccio,and Coluccios seemed central to the Ndrangheta to push into Montreal."
This illustrates the Ndrangheta interest in Montreal,let alone several Montreal journalist supporting that idea.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/08/16 12:42 AM

Originally Posted By: Alfa Romeo


Edit: I think it might be time to differentiate between smack (heroin) and coke. This because the coke might have been travelling upwards, but the heroin might have been travelling down [into the United States], simultaneously. Someone somewhere might have even said that one type of narcotic was used to trade for the other, as a means of payment. No money changing hands, imagine that. Opinions?


Yes, one of the first who did that for the Sicilian Mafia and the 'Ndrangheta was early cocaine broker Roberto "The Baby" Pannunzi.

Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/08/16 11:55 AM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...afia-arrete.php

DRUGS
A MAFIA CLAN LEADER ARRESTED
DANIEL RENAUD
LA PRESSE
One of the most influential clan leaders of the Montreal Mafia at present according to police, Andrea Scoppa, aka Andrew, was recently arrested in connection with a seizure of one hundred kilos of cocaine, has told La Presse .

Scoppa, 52, was reportedly arrested with other individuals two weeks ago, questioned and then released.

"On October 26, investigators from the Joint Regional Squad North Shore have conducted searches in Montreal. But since it is under investigation, we will not give further information to not harm the investigation "simply explained Sergeant Claude Denis of the Sûreté du Québec.

Reportedly, two searches have taken place October 26 - one in the Canadian condo tower on Peel Street, and the other in an apartment building of 13 th Avenue in the Saint-Michel district, in the northeast of Montreal. No further details filtered yet. Assuming that the market value of the cocaine is currently $ 60,000 per kilogram, the total value of the seizure would amount to more than 6 million.

A GHOST
In September 2004, Andrea Scoppa was sentenced to six years in prison for a case of conspiracy and cocaine trafficking that would have passed through the United States. He and his accomplices had been compromised by a double agent. Scoppa had regained his freedom pending further proceedings after having made a deposit of $ 150,000 certified check. Apart from this case, it has little criminal history.

Yet Andrew Scoppa is considered by the police as an influential player in the Montreal Mafia has very close contact with bikers, former bikers, mobsters and other individuals linked to organized crime, Greek, Lebanese and Arabic.

The police still consider him being involved in heroin trafficking, even if he has already told the people around him to never touch this drug. His influence on territories would be Parc-Extension, Mile End, Little Italy and Lachine, Montreal. He would also be very present in Laval.

Historically, Andrew Scoppa has always been quite independent of the other clans of the Mafia. He did not take part in the struggle for influence that thrashed the Rizzuto clan during the years 2009-2010 and would have rallied with the godfather Vito Rizzuto upon his return to Montreal in the fall of 2012. However, it appeared that Scoppa was not on very good terms with those who succeeded Vito after the natural death of the latter in December 2013.

On 3 October 2015, one of his trusted men was the victim of a murder attempt,it passed came under the media radar. While the victim was about to enter the underground parking lot of a tower of condos of Dollard-des-Ormeaux area, his vehicle was riddled with five bullets fired by a suspect armed with a nine millimeter pistol with a quiet.

During the great Colosseum investigation by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police on the Montreal mafia between 2001 and 2006, Andrea Scoppa has been at the heart of a territory dispute with the Hells Angels Yves "Led" Leduc, who would have even wanted to eliminate its rival before the deceased mafia Moreno Gallo settles the dispute.

Andrea Scoppa is the brother of Salvatore Scoppa, an individual who has taken a place in recent years in the Montreal Mafia, notably in Rivière-des-Prairies, scene of many violent in recent years.
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/08/16 01:20 PM

Thanks for the post.

The Scoppas are heavy indeed. This will be interesting.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/08/16 10:02 PM

Would be interesting if the Scoppas are behind the recent turmoil. Having been around for a long time and at age 52 it would be now or never. Usually 40s/50s is the age American mafiosi rise to prominence. I still think a more likely scenario is Arcadi with backing from Ontario. The Scoppas might definitely be part of the conspiracy though.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/08/16 10:21 PM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Would be interesting if the Scoppas are behind the recent turmoil. Having been around for a long time and at age 52 it would be now or never. Usually 40s/50s is the age American mafiosi rise to prominence. I still think a more likely scenario is Arcadi with backing from Ontario. The Scoppas might definitely be part of the conspiracy though.


Interesting scenario you propose with Arcadi but how will the Sicilian clan react to that ? They will feel betrayed.Looks like he maybe screwed either way he goes. It will be a tough decision to make.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/08/16 11:03 PM

In the news article they mention that Oct.3, 2015 there was an attempted murder on one of Scoppa's men.

I looked at the timeline and four days prior on Sept. 29, 2015 there was a molotov cocktail at Leonardo Rizzuto's law office.
I wonder now, having read this article, if the attempted murder was a retaliation from the Rizzuto's.I know it is speculation but it's something to think about. Most of 2015 all was quiet,I thought they had finally reached a peace agreement but in September when Marco Campellone got shot all hell went loose and they have been warring again ever since then.
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/09/16 12:41 AM

It has been relatively quiet since Spagnolo got clipped, no molotovs or attempts of any kind.

I wonder if theres some new leadership in place now
Posted By: m2w

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/09/16 04:08 PM

Originally Posted By: CabriniGreen
You are right, Costa Nostra in Sicily, Milan and Rome. Camorra is dominant IN Naples, maybe parts of Eastern Europe like the Chech Republic?( I say this because Saviano said the Licciardis monopolized criminal activity in the Chech Republic..) And Spain I think, I think the Camorra is very deep in Spain. They also control the INTERNAL narcotics markets in Italy I think. And they don't seem to travel abroad AT ALL...

But the Calabrians are EVERYWHERE, INCLUDING NEW YORK now. Australia, Ontario and now probably Montreal. Germany, maybe France? I'm assuming they supply the United Kingdom, although there was a Camorra clan that was HUUUUGE in Scotland the LaTorres. Basically the rest of Europe is theirs....


sicilian mafia is active also in turin, bologna and genoa, in europe it has some cells in france, germany, spain and belgium
the ndrangheta is pretty much everywhere, i also read a recent article that states it is the strongest criminal group in switzerland
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/09/16 04:09 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Would be interesting if the Scoppas are behind the recent turmoil. Having been around for a long time and at age 52 it would be now or never. Usually 40s/50s is the age American mafiosi rise to prominence. I still think a more likely scenario is Arcadi with backing from Ontario. The Scoppas might definitely be part of the conspiracy though.


Interesting scenario you propose with Arcadi but how will the Sicilian clan react to that ? They will feel betrayed.Looks like he maybe screwed either way he goes. It will be a tough decision to make.


It looks like he may have betrayed them years ago. Business or Blood states how he had met with some of Vito's rivals in Ontario without Vito's consent. Also, on the old RD forum there was a poster with apparant inside knowledge who said that Arcadi had fallen out of favor with the Sicilians because he had arranged his own coke deals.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/09/16 04:11 PM

Originally Posted By: eurodave
It has been relatively quiet since Spagnolo got clipped, no molotovs or attempts of any kind.

I wonder if theres some new leadership in place now


I don't think it's over. In the summer months it was pretty quiet as well.

Then again, killings within the Montreal Mafia usually peak from the autumn through Christmas...
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/09/16 10:43 PM

Yep if we get through Christmas without any hits I would be very surprised.
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/10/16 01:38 PM

I guess I spoke to soon.......so it begins.

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2016/11/10/un-restaurant-vise-par-un-cocktail-molotov-dans-ahuntsic
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/10/16 03:15 PM

Thus the saying"it ain't over until the fat lady sings". LOL
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/10/16 03:39 PM

So we might expect a few more molotovs and maybe another big hit around christmas lol

Gallo, Rizzutos, Di Maulo all got murdered during this time of the year.

November-December seem to be crappy months for mafiosi.

Maybe it's year-end overview and financials lol
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/10/16 04:15 PM

Your right, most of the big hits were during those two months. Montagna and Calocchia were also killed in the same months.
It must be on account of the extra Christmas bonus that the hitmen get.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/10/16 04:57 PM

Originally Posted By: eurodave
So we might expect a few more molotovs and maybe another big hit around christmas lol

Gallo, Rizzutos, Di Maulo all got murdered during this time of the year.

November-December seem to be crappy months for mafiosi.

Maybe it's year-end overview and financials lol


The end of the mild weather means a break from major construction, so they have more time for other stuff. wink
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/10/16 06:03 PM

Originally Posted By: eurodave
So we might expect a few more molotovs and maybe another big hit around christmas lol

Gallo, Rizzutos, Di Maulo all got murdered during this time of the year.

November-December seem to be crappy months for mafiosi.

Maybe it's year-end overview and financials lol


Not to mention Montagna. The biggest names were all clipped in November. It's the high season.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/10/16 07:22 PM

Today is the anniversary of the Nick Sr./Di Maulo hits
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/10/16 10:06 PM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Also, on the old RD forum there was a poster with apparant inside knowledge who said that Arcadi had fallen out of favor with the Sicilians because he had arranged his own coke deals.


I remember that guy, but I don't think its enough to conclude he's now on the other side.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/11/16 12:11 AM

Originally Posted By: eurodave


Quebec's business registry lists a Giuseppe Franco as a principal for Il Tavolino, as well as listing some interrelated companies--one of the latter companies shows an Aurelio Franco as a principal for what appears to be a holding company for residential and commercial buildings. Il Tavolino and some of the other related companies, such as Billiard Colors Inc., are categorized in the registry as restaurants, night clubs, or establishments with video-lottery terminals (VLTs).
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/11/16 12:02 PM

Andrea 'Andrew' Scoppa arrested in hundred kilo cocaine seizure

http://gangstersoutt.blogspot.nl/2016/11/andrea-andrew-scoppa-arrested-in.html
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/17/16 11:02 PM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...uisitionnee.php

Translation:

The residence of Andrew Scoppa, influential chieftain of the Montreal Mafia, was raided by police this morning in the northwest of the island of Montreal, learned the Press .

According to our information, the operation, which began around 8 am, was conducted by investigators from the Joint Regional Squad (ERM) north shore, in collaboration with the SPVM. The raid, which took place in the northwest of the island of Montreal, was conducted along with a dozen others performed in homes and vehicles, also on the island of Montreal.

This would involve searches conducted as part of a narcotics investigation ongoing.

Recall that last week, La Presse revealed that Andrew Scoppa and two other individuals were arrested and released on October 26 as part of an investigation into the seizure of more than 100 kilos of cocaine.

According to sources, the drug was, in part at least, found in a car parked in the parking lot of a gym Tower Canadiens in Montreal West.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/19/16 06:28 AM

Quebec's 81s are believed to be the new top dogs in the province's organized-crime landscape.

Crime organisé: les Hells Angels ont détrôné la mafia

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...ne-la-mafia.php
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/19/16 11:14 AM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
Quebec's 81s are believed to be the new top dogs in the province's organized-crime landscape.

Crime organisé: les Hells Angels ont détrôné la mafia

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...ne-la-mafia.php


Merci, we already saw this with guys like Piccirilli.

Despite the organizational upheaval of organized crime in Quebec, there is no animosity between bikers and mafiosi, as well as individuals of both groups come together regularly and work together, according to our sources, making the line between Hells Angels and mafia increasingly diffuse.
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/19/16 11:52 AM

Could it be possible that the recent murders were in part initiated by the bikers and some Italians? What do you guys think.

I had mentioned recently that it had been relatively quiet since spagjolo6 got clipped.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/19/16 12:35 PM

I find it to be very possible. Most of the individuals that have mounted the greatest opposition to the Rizzuto's all have strong ties to the bikers.....Mirarchi, DeVito, Scoppa, Piccirilli(recently formed his own MC).
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/19/16 12:39 PM

I also forgot to mention the D'Amico's (ties to the Hells) from Granby, who started this fiasco back when Vito was arrested.
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/19/16 12:50 PM

It shows the Bikers strength on the streets and their power in controlling the distribution. Like its deceptive, it may very well be that if you WANT to be a powerful mobster in Quebec, YOU GOTTA have a relationship with the bikers.

It ties into something Saviano touches on in 000. And also in John Roberts book. The more coke these people ship, the less money made per kilo. The distributors end up making way more money per kilo. In a weird way they kinda become just as, if not more important. This dynamic happened with the Mexicans.. Here another excerpt......

Now the Mexicans could aspire to have a seat at the business table too. That and more. Much more. That’s how it works in big companies too; the distributor often becomes the producer’s main competitor, and its earnings surpass the head company’s.


The dynamics are much more complicated than people make it out to be....
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/19/16 01:26 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
I also forgot to mention the D'Amico's (ties to the Hells) from Granby, who started this fiasco back when Vito was arrested.


Speaking of them the deported Luigi D'Amico started a few succesful restaurants in his home country. Here he is with his staff.

http://graffitinews.it/a-s-egidio-parte-la-catena-di-ristoranti-la-sera/
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/19/16 02:35 PM

Good find Hollander !
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/20/16 06:46 PM

This time, a different paper reporting what La Presse reported a few days ago.

Les Hells imposent une taxe de 10% | Le Journal de Montréal

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2016/11/19/les-hells-imposent-une-taxe-de-10
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/21/16 12:18 AM

It will be interesting to see how long this keeps up as I doubt the Italians will keep paying the bikers.

It will also be interesting to see who has the pull and influence within the mob to establish leadership
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/21/16 11:46 AM

Originally Posted By: eurodave
It will be interesting to see how long this keeps up as I doubt the Italians will keep paying the bikers.

It will also be interesting to see who has the pull and influence within the mob to establish leadership


To keep the HA happy they will probably pay them, enough money to do so. They don't want a confrontation.
Posted By: m2w

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/21/16 04:17 PM

i doubt italian mafia pay something to ha in montreal, italian mafia is clearly by far the strongest criminal group there, it imports even more drugs than ha, it has tons of shooters and made montreal a war-zone... honestly, canada is a joke, there is not anti-mafia law, no informants
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/21/16 04:28 PM

Originally Posted By: eurodave
It will be interesting to see how long this keeps up as I doubt the Italians will keep paying the bikers.

It will also be interesting to see who has the pull and influence within the mob to establish leadership


I just find there is something missing with this picture about the HA being in control.The journalist mentioned the Montreal mafia are no longer calling the shots but where does the Ontario Ndrangheta fit in this equation. Are we to conclude that this is a result of what was mentioned in the earlier articles that mentioned an alliance was taking place between HA & the Ontario Ndrangheta or is HA the sole head of the pyramid ? I just find these journalists keep us hanging and there is no follow up on the alledged alliance.
Posted By: m2w

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/21/16 04:34 PM

ha have nothing to do with the montreal war, it's an italian thing, in my opinion there are 2 strong factions killing eachother, 1 supported by the ndrangheta and the other by caruana- c untrera's
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/21/16 07:04 PM

Originally Posted By: m2w
ha have nothing to do with the montreal war, it's an italian thing, in my opinion there are 2 strong factions killing eachother, 1 supported by the ndrangheta and the other by caruana- c untrera's


Assuming that were true,weren't there be a stream of killings in Toronto among the Caruana/Cun trera and Ndrangheta. It wouldn't be limited to Montreal. I don't mean to put holes in your theory, I am just asking ?
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/21/16 07:34 PM

Originally Posted By: m2w
i doubt italian mafia pay something to ha in montreal, italian mafia is clearly by far the strongest criminal group there, it imports even more drugs than ha, it has tons of shooters and made montreal a war-zone... honestly, canada is a joke, there is not anti-mafia law, no informants


Many of the shooters are Haitians and police do have a lot of informants.

Ex Montreal Cop Tried To Sell Mafia Informants' List
CBC
Posted: 01/16/2012 9:11 pm EST Updated: 03/17/2012 5:12 am EDT

A retired Montreal police officer tried to sell a list of informants to the Mafia, according to information obtained by Radio-Canada.

After his retirement in January, the officer allegedly tried to sell the list for a six-figure sum.

Police said he was one of only two or three people who had access to the list.

Didier Deramond, of the Montreal police, said information was received in April 2011 through a wiretap investigation. That information led to the suspect's arrest in October, he said.

A search warrant was issued after his arrest, and the list of informants was seized.

Police said the identities have not been compromised.

No charges have been laid.

Deramond said the officer worked for Montreal police for more than 30 years.

A second person was arrested in connection with the case. Police said the investigation is ongoing.

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Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/21/16 08:49 PM

As much as we might believe the recent mafia war only included italian factions against each other, the biker component shouldnt be undermined. They were used and will continue to be a force as their geographical influence is far greater than the mafia or any ethnic gangs which are usually confined to large urban centers.

Certainly as we saw with the new table Vito put in place, bikers and gangs sat at the same table with the mafia and discussed, their importance has increased in the last decade.

It would be interesting to study the power dynamics between the 3 big crime groups operation in the area but the mafia seems weekened at the moment.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/21/16 10:26 PM

Originally Posted By: eurodave
As much as we might believe the recent mafia war only included italian factions against each other, the biker component shouldnt be undermined. They were used and will continue to be a force as their geographical influence is far greater than the mafia or any ethnic gangs which are usually confined to large urban centers.

Certainly as we saw with the new table Vito put in place, bikers and gangs sat at the same table with the mafia and discussed, their importance has increased in the last decade.

It would be interesting to study the power dynamics between the 3 big crime groups operation in the area but the mafia seems weekened at the moment.


+1
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/21/16 11:57 PM

Apart from small disputes,the HA and the mafia always respected each others territory.
When the bikers in Montreal had their wars in the 90's. Although Vito leaned more with HA,they chose the role of mediator between HA and the Rock Machine.They could of moved in and seek more control but chose not to. Now we are supposed to believe that HA are now in control and no questions asked. I am suspicious that there is something else going on here. Why would HA risk a possible war in the future with the mafia. All it takes is a few police raids on the HA to unbalance the scale and a war can break out again. Unless the Mafia or the Mafia dissidents decided to make an alliance with HA. If this is not the case then I find it remarkable that the HA were able to takeover without losing one MC member. It is too hard to believe.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/22/16 02:45 AM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
Apart from small disputes,the HA and the mafia always respected each others territory.
When the bikers in Montreal had their wars in the 90's. Although Vito leaned more with HA,they chose the role of mediator between HA and the Rock Machine.They could of moved in and seek more control but chose not to. Now we are supposed to believe that HA are now in control and no questions asked. I am suspicious that there is something else going on here. Why would HA risk a possible war in the future with the mafia. All it takes is a few police raids on the HA to unbalance the scale and a war can break out again. Unless the Mafia or the Mafia dissidents decided to make an alliance with HA. If this is not the case then I find it remarkable that the HA were able to takeover without losing one MC member. It is too hard to believe.


I don't believe the Italians or other groups are paying the HA 10% because they have to but they want to have their support. They are equal partners for a very long time.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/22/16 03:00 AM

Originally Posted By: m2w
ha have nothing to do with the montreal war, it's an italian thing, in my opinion there are 2 strong factions killing eachother, 1 supported by the ndrangheta and the other by caruana- c untrera's


We have yet to see if thats true. It's nice to have an opinion and all and to voice it, but to say like you'd know for sure that the Bikers aren't involved in whats going on in Montreal nowadays, in some capacity, I think thats a bit of a reach. I also wouldn't say the Montreal Mafia is the strongest OC group in Montreal either, with so much in fighting going on now, and with the constant rise of the Hells even when they're leaders were jailed, and the consolidation they made with some of the black street gangs and turning them into HA subsets, I think the Biker gangs, mostly the Hells, are at least somewhat equal to the Montreal Mafia.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/23/16 11:50 AM

Sebastien Comtois, president of the Devils Ghosts of Montreal, a junior club of the Hells Angels, is among the individuals arrested yesterday in an operation to dismantle a drug trafficking network. The first chapter of Devils Ghosts was founded in 2012 and was sponsored by the influential member of the Hells Angels Salvatore Cazzetta and Sergio Piccirilli.
Posted By: m2w

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/23/16 03:28 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
Assuming that were true,weren't there be a stream of killings in Toronto among the Caruana/Cun trera and Ndrangheta. It wouldn't be limited to Montreal. I don't mean to put holes in your theory, I am just asking ?


i think that the murders of verduci, calautti, the attempt to rocco di paola and others were carried out by caruana-c untrera's, so yes there were killings also in toronto
Posted By: m2w

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/23/16 03:30 PM

Originally Posted By: Hollander
Many of the shooters are Haitians and police do have a lot of informants.


according to who? there is not any evidence that the shooters are haitians, maybe a couple, but not many as you claim...
if they had so many informers they would know what's happen, the police seems to know almost nothing about the war
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/23/16 06:25 PM

Originally Posted By: m2w

if they had so many informers they would know what's happen, the police seems to know almost nothing about the war


The montreal ex-cop who killed himself had a list with 2,000 informants and undercover agents.
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/23/16 07:06 PM

Originally Posted By: m2w
Originally Posted By: Ciment
Assuming that were true,weren't there be a stream of killings in Toronto among the Caruana/Cun trera and Ndrangheta. It wouldn't be limited to Montreal. I don't mean to put holes in your theory, I am just asking ?


i think that the murders of verduci, calautti, the attempt to rocco di paola and others were carried out by caruana-c untrera's, so yes there were killings also in toronto


Verduci got clipped by the Figliomeni brothers, according to Italian documents.

Calautti owed money to alot of people, including his own organization. Coluccio took on 200k in debt he owed to the Montreal group.
Posted By: m2w

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/24/16 03:29 PM

Originally Posted By: Hollander
The montreal ex-cop who killed himself had a list with 2,000 informants and undercover agents.


2.000? there are not even so many mafia members in montreal, i know there are not turncoats in canada, maybe yes they have some informants but they seem to know very little about the mafia war
Posted By: m2w

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/24/16 03:30 PM

Originally Posted By: eurodave
Verduci got clipped by the Figliomeni brothers, according to Italian documents.


i doubt italian police knows about what's happening in canada
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/24/16 03:44 PM

Originally Posted By: m2w
Originally Posted By: Hollander
The montreal ex-cop who killed himself had a list with 2,000 informants and undercover agents.


2.000? there are not even so many mafia members in montreal, i know there are not turncoats in canada, maybe yes they have some informants but they seem to know very little about the mafia war


This are also informants in other circles montreal has a very diverse underworld like most major cities. Without them police can't make any cases against the mafia like we see the last ten years.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/24/16 05:16 PM

Originally Posted By: m2w
Originally Posted By: eurodave
Verduci got clipped by the Figliomeni brothers, according to Italian documents.


i doubt italian police knows about what's happening in canada


This news article mentions how Italian police knew.

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/toronto-on-brink-of-a-mob-war-italy-warns
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/24/16 07:13 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: m2w
Originally Posted By: eurodave
Verduci got clipped by the Figliomeni brothers, according to Italian documents.


i doubt italian police knows about what's happening in canada


This news article mentions how Italian police knew.

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/toronto-on-brink-of-a-mob-war-italy-warns


Better yet, everyone should see the Italian-language PDF found at http://www.strettoweb.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/COMUNICATO-ARRESTI-28.09.2015.pdf.

Pay particular attention to the bottom of p. 3 and the first four paragraphs of p. 4.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/24/16 09:59 PM

It can't be any clearer than that.

Good Find antimafia !
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/25/16 09:53 AM

Gotta read as much as you can......
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/25/16 10:49 AM

Another influential Hells Angel released.

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...03_section_POS4
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/25/16 04:00 PM

Beaches molotoved last night this was where colapelle got killed and a known hang out for de vito associates
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/25/16 04:26 PM

Originally Posted By: eurodave
Beaches molotoved last night this was where colapelle got killed and a known hang out for de vito associates


That might rule out the Desjardins people then, who were allies with De Vito.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/25/16 05:01 PM

http://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2016/11/24/temoin-important-de-lattaque-au-cocktail-molotov-recherche

Important witness to the Cafe Bellrose molotov cocktail attack.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/25/16 10:17 PM

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/tony-papa-1.3862798

What the article does not mention, he is Moreno Gallo's brother-in-law.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/25/16 10:51 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/tony-papa-1.3862798

What the article does not mention, he is Moreno Gallo's brother-in-law.


Below is a link to a French-language article on the very same subject:

http://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/1001...ups-de-montreal
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/26/16 04:15 PM

Originally Posted By: m2w
Originally Posted By: eurodave
Verduci got clipped by the Figliomeni brothers, according to Italian documents.


i doubt italian police knows about what's happening in canada


That's quite a ridiculous statement, you don't think they'd have insight through 'Ndrangheta members who are connected to other 'Ndrine members in Canada, namely the Siderno/Commisso group? Which is how they got that info in the first place.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/27/16 12:58 PM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...emi-liberte.php

Montreal Columbian that supplied HA with cocaine on condition release.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/30/16 05:46 AM

"Un mafioso condamné à 32 mois pour possession d'arme"

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...ssion-darme.php
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/30/16 06:14 AM

Sounds like De Gregorio was either prepared to do some work, or was protecting himself in that rough climate in the Montreal underworld. I think it was the latter.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/02/16 02:30 AM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2016/12...vre-a-la-police

Translation:

MAXIME DELAND
Thursday, December 1, 2016 5:02 p.m.
Update Thursday, December 1, 2016 5:02 p.m.
The Hells- Guy "Malin" Rodrigue, who was among the list of 10 most wanted criminals in Quebec, was arrested on Thursday, confirmed the Sûreté du Québec.
The 59 year old man was wanted since SharQc operation, conducted in April 2009. Rodrigue, a member of the Hells Angels chapter in Sherbrooke since the mid-80s, was particularly wanted for murder, gangsterism and drug trafficking .
Between 1994 and 2002 he plotted 22 murders and had personally ordered several in order to maintain or increase the territory of the Hells Angels in Quebec," police said.
Guy Rodrigue has delivered himself Thursday to police. He appeared in the afternoon at the courthouse in Montreal, but the Sûreté du Québec was not able to say what charges were brought against him.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/02/16 02:39 AM

Originally Posted By: Ciment

Between 1994 and 2002 he plotted 22 murders and had personally ordered several in order to maintain or increase the territory of the Hells Angels in Quebec," police said.
Guy Rodrigue has delivered himself Thursday to police. He appeared in the afternoon at the courthouse in Montreal, but the Sûreté du Québec was not able to say what charges were brought against him.


Those french bikers are on another level.
Posted By: pmac

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/02/16 03:06 AM

Just my 2 cents montreal is up for grabs. The rizzutto bonanno crew had there run for 50+years. And it worked its over. Seems when joe massino the boss of all was exposed as a rat in 2006 it all went down hill since
Agree or disagree?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/02/16 04:59 AM

Originally Posted By: Hollander
Originally Posted By: Ciment

Between 1994 and 2002 he plotted 22 murders and had personally ordered several in order to maintain or increase the territory of the Hells Angels in Quebec," police said.
Guy Rodrigue has delivered himself Thursday to police. He appeared in the afternoon at the courthouse in Montreal, but the Sûreté du Québec was not able to say what charges were brought against him.


Those french bikers are on another level.


Most of those murders were probably committed during the biker war between the Hells Angels and the Rock Machine.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/02/16 05:17 AM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...92_section_POS1

Translation: Daniel Renaud LaPresse
The Hells Angels Guy Rodrigue, who had been on the run since Operation SharQc more than seven years ago and was on the list of the ten most wanted criminals in Quebec, was arrested this afternoon.

Rodrigue, 59, gave himself up, following negotiations between his lawyer and the police. He appeared this afternoon at the Montreal courthouse. He remains detained and returned to court on 5 January. He is currently facing the same charges as other leaders who were deposed against on the day of the famous police strike on April 15, 2009. He is accused of 22 counts of murder and counts of conspiracy, drug trafficking and gangsterism.

We do not know what Rodrigue, who belongs to the Sherbrooke chapter, did during his long journey on the run. There are indications that he has spent an indefinite period in Mexico. According to some reports, it was because he could no longer be on the run that the biker surrendered to the police.

Guy Rodrigue is one of the most influential members of the Hells Angels in Quebec, according to the police. He would be involved in the facet of the organization's money laundering. He is close to Charles Huneault, an associate of the Hells Angels arrested in 2014 in Operation Hantise de la Sûreté du Québec and considered by this one as a major usury lender and recycler of the proceeds of crime.

Let us recall that a few weeks ago, the public prosecutor withdrew all the charges against seven other Hells Angels on the run for more than seven years. However, the charges were not withdrawn against Rodrigue and another fugitive rider, Claude Gauthier. The latter is the last Hells Angels who has not yet been arrested since SharQc. According to our information, the charges have not been withdrawn against Rodrigue and Gauthier because the prosecution would like to bring against them the informer Dayle Fredette
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/02/16 07:39 PM


Two suspicious deaths in Vaudreuil-Dorion could be linked to biker gangs.
CTV Montreal
Published Thursday, December 1, 2016 6:55PM EST
Last Updated Friday, December 2, 2016 2:25PM EST
One of the two men killed in a double homicide in Vaudreuil-Dorion Thursday is Joseph Fluet, who reports say was linked to biker gang The Rock Machine.
Police resumed their investigation Friday morning into the shooting deaths of two men. They confirmed Friday that one of the men is Fluet, who was named in a 2014 report in La Presse as linked to The Rock Machine. The report said Fluet had been arrested in along with other gang members for possession of prohibited arms.
The body of one of the victims was found badly injured shortly after 1 p.m. Thursday on Alstonvale Way near Harwood.
Shortly thereafter, police investigating the scene discovered a second man, also badly hurt. Both men were pronounced dead in hospital.
Sûreté du Québec spokesperson Ingrid Asselin said the two men were both in their 40s. Fluet was 45. While police said one of the men was linked to biker gangs, but they would not confirm which gang.
Police do not have any description of any potential vehicles or attackers involved in the deaths.
The major crimes unit spent the night at the scene began investigating again Friday morning.
Neighbour Jackie Nadeau said she was startled by the gunshots.
“I was on the phone with a friend. I heard the gunshots from my apartment. I ran upstairs because it startled me, and I said it sounded like gunshots and I came up and looked over in that direction because that’s where I thought it came from and I said, ‘Oh, I must be crazy’ everything was quiet. There was nothing. There weren’t any people around or a car around or anything moving on the street. It was peaceful,” she said.
The investigation continues.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/02/16 07:52 PM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2014/03...dre-leur-retour

Eric Thibault
ERIC THIBAULT
Monday, March 31, 2014 8:09 p.m.
Update Tuesday, April 1, 2014 0:24
A surprising discovery of the police in a warehouse north of the island of Montreal on Saturday suggests a return to Quebec of the Rock Machine, the sworn enemies of the Hells Angels against which they fought a war that has killed 160 between 1994 and 2002.
The Journal has learned that the Quebec provincial police seized three jackets bearing the image of the Rock Machine - called "patches" or "colors", in the jargon of the police - and for members of the motorcycle gang, inside of a warehouse Balmoral Street, in the borough of Saint-Laurent.
Threat
The Rock Machine are yet disappeared from the province for more than ten years, although Canadian members exhibited their colors a few times in bars of downtown Montreal, in 2011 and 2012.

SQ refused to confirm our information or elaborate on the meaning of this unexpected discovery yesterday. Sergeant Anne Mathieu said that the search was conducted from an investigation for threats in a commercial dispute.
"The complainant filed a complaint in mid-March. He had to invest thousands of dollars in a project with a man of Laval but that did not materialize as planned. The suspect allegedly tried to obtain money under threat and with the help of intermediaries, "recounted the spokesman for the SQ.
Saturday, officers from the SQ Regional Investigation Division arrested Yan Seguin, 25, of Montreal West, in this case. Still detained, he appeared to face a charge of threats yesterday.
An arrest warrant has also been issued to the place of Joseph Fluet, 42, of Laval, to answer the same charge.
defectors
Most tenors of the Rock Machine have joined the Hells Angels after the bloody war between the two gangs.
Salvatore Cazzetta, one of the founders of the Rock Machine in 1985, Paul "Sasquatch" Porter, who then led the Nomads chapter of the Hells in Ontario and Jean Judes Faucher were the lot.
The latter's brother, Frédéric Faucher, serving 23 years in prison for having ordered the hired killer Gérald Gallant for the killings of a dozen allies of the Hells Angels.
Their followers had been arrested and sentenced to long terms in the margins of the police operation Amigo, conducted in 2002 by the SQ.
Nevertheless, the biker assured a presence in Ontario - where six of its members were killed in an internal purge in 2007 - and Manitoba, where the RCMP has dealt him a blow it a year ago, when Dilemma of the drug operation with the arrest of 11 bikers.
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/02/16 11:50 PM

Biker related news has increased alot lately, murders and such while the same cant be said about the mob

Will be interesting to see how things play out
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/03/16 12:53 AM

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...audreuil-dorion

More on the Rock Machine shooting.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/03/16 12:59 AM

Originally Posted By: eurodave
Biker related news has increased alot lately, murders and such while the same cant be said about the mob

Will be interesting to see how things play out


Yes, interesting observation. Montreal mafia is very quiet these days.

This Rock Machine shooting maybe internal but if HA is behind this shooting we may see a new biker war brewing and new alliances being made.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/04/16 01:05 AM

The Rock Machine has connections to what is left of the Cotronis.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/04/16 04:13 AM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2016/12...un-rock-machine

A former informer riddled with bullets.

The Rock Machine Joseph Fluet, alias Eric Lefebvre, had also worked for the Hells Angels and the police


Friday, December 2, 2016 8:54 p.m. Eric Thibeau
Update Friday, December 2, 2016 8:54 p.m.
A member of the Rock Machine riddled with bullets Thursday in Vaudreuil-Dorion was back in the unforgiving environment of the bikers after having failed as an informer for the police.
Joseph "Fuego" Fluet, who began his criminal career as a henchman of the Hells Angels, had long known that there was a price on his head, and that even if he was living under a new identity for seven years, learned the Journal .
Joseph Fluet
COURTESY PHOTO
Joseph Fluet
In April 2001, who spent the first 38 years of his life under the name of Éric Lefebvre told the Journal de Québec he was blacklisted by the Hells for having had a "one night stand" with a blonde of another member of the motorcycle gang.

At the time, he was "striker" of Damners MC - a farm club of the Hells in the Quebec City area - and he had been arrested for his participation in the war waged for the Hells vs Rock Machine.
"Never informer ..."
He said that the Sûreté du Québec offered him to become an informer and to denounce his accomplices to justice.
"I'll never be an informer. It does not tempts me to die at 31 years, "he proclaimed then.
But Lefebvre changed his mind a few weeks later when investigators from the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) in New Brunswick advised him that he would be accused of setting fire to a bar in Moncton.
They offered him to collaborate with them in exchange for a new identity, police protection and financial compensation.
He agreed, but soon got in trouble after admitting his other crimes and was sentenced to seven years in prison.
He committed perjury under oath in court, refused to return to testify for the Crown during another trial and even sued the RCMP for breach of contract claiming one million dollars.
In 2009, he returned to Quebec on leaving the penitentiary. It did not take long to be re-handcuff. It was under the name of Joseph Fluet that he appeared in court and was sentenced.
A real headache
Nicknamed "Fuego" (Fire) in the underworld, Fluet was pinched again in a case of extortion and firearms in 2014.
During the investigation, the Sûreté du Québec (SQ) made a surprise entry in a warehouse in the borough of Saint-Laurent: thry found black and white jackets brand new with the emblems of the Rock Machine, that were believed to be missing since the end of the biker war.
Fluet was one of the new members of this gang that he fought for.
He had just served two years in prison when a shooter made him one of the victims of a double murder that has the signature of organized crime Thursday in a wooded area of &#8203;&#8203;Vaudreuil-Dorion.
The case is a puzzle for investigators. Not for the fact Fluet had many enemies, but because the SQ do not know who is the other victim, a man in his forties who had no identification on him.
Posted By: Marcow

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/04/16 04:49 AM

Does anyone of you believe that the New York families have something to do with the preconditions in Montreal?

I mean different Ndrangheta clans have their fingers in the game.

It speaks when you look at the global development very much for it.

The Siderno Group is among the largest and biggest in the cocaine business in North America I would say almost the largest. The commissos the coluccios and other clans. Perhaps also the rest of the cotronis, but they are not as rich and powerful as the siderno group.

These families are rich, powerful and operate all over the world.

At the moment they are on everyone's lips. Italy Canda Australia and in half of Europe.

What would also interest me is the role of the caruana and the [BadWord] family.

Have he any contact with the siderno group? Have the New york familys contacts with the siderno group?

The new york mafia have contacts with the ndrangheta clan Aquino, which is also associated with the coluccios and the commissos.


The New York families have I still think of a certain power in america but worldwide?

Apart from the Gambinos and Genovese, the American Mafia has absolutely nothing to say in the world.

The question for me is how does it look at these 2 families?
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/04/16 12:56 PM

Two people sought by the Sûreté du Québec in connection with the double murder occurred on Thursday in Vaudreuil-Dorion. Investigators are asking the public's help to trace Richard Hunt, 38, and Melanie Binette, 28 years.

Investigators want to question them in connection with the murders of Joseph Fluet, 45, and Steven Lamarsh, 38. Last Thursday, the victims' bodies were found on a plot of Montée Alstonvale in Vaudreuil. According to information obtained by La Presse , Joseph Fluet - his baptismal name Éric Lefebvre - has been or was still a member of the Rock Machine of the 13th legion.

Richard Hunt, who lives in Vaudreuil, could circulate on a 2011 Dodge Ram vehicle, four-door, pale and gray G54 MKS registered.

Any information that may help locate Richard Hunt or Melanie Binette can be transmitted confidentially to the Central criminal information of the Sûreté du Québec at 1 800 659-4264.

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...tion_ECRAN1POS2
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/04/16 12:59 PM

No I don't think there is any American involvement in Montreal anymore.

As for the Mafia up there, it will be quiet until Rizzuto gets out and Sollecito beats cancer or dies one.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/04/16 02:13 PM

Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
No I don't think there is any American involvement in Montreal anymore.

As for the Mafia up there, it will be quiet until Rizzuto gets out and Sollecito beats cancer or dies one.


No idea, but an acting boss of the Bonannos was involved in the war so there are links to NY.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/06/16 12:10 AM

Only because he was from America. He couldn't even step foot in America legally again so the links end there. He held no sway in the Bonanno's anymore much less NY or America.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/06/16 12:20 AM

Originally Posted By: Marcow
Does anyone of you believe that the New York families have something to do with the preconditions in Montreal?

I mean different Ndrangheta clans have their fingers in the game.

It speaks when you look at the global development very much for it.

The Siderno Group is among the largest and biggest in the cocaine business in North America I would say almost the largest. The commissos the coluccios and other clans. Perhaps also the rest of the cotronis, but they are not as rich and powerful as the siderno group.

These families are rich, powerful and operate all over the world.

At the moment they are on everyone's lips. Italy Canda Australia and in half of Europe.

What would also interest me is the role of the caruana and the [BadWord] family.

Have he any contact with the siderno group? Have the New york familys contacts with the siderno group?

The new york mafia have contacts with the ndrangheta clan Aquino, which is also associated with the coluccios and the commissos.


The New York families have I still think of a certain power in america but worldwide?

Apart from the Gambinos and Genovese, the American Mafia has absolutely nothing to say in the world.

The question for me is how does it look at these 2 families?


No.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/06/16 06:25 PM

Originally Posted By: Marcow
Does anyone of you believe that the New York families have something to do with the preconditions in Montreal?


There's no evidence of involvement of New York with the current situation, but with the preconditions absolutely. It was Massino's testimony that put Rizzuto in jail which led to chaos in the Montreal underworld. And it escalated when Montagna became involved. This is not even debatable, it is a fact.

Quote:
What would also interest me is the role of the caruana and the [BadWord] family.

Have he any contact with the siderno group? Have the New york familys contacts with the siderno group?


Yes, and there is evidence to support it.

Quote:
The New York families have I still think of a certain power in america but worldwide?


Not really. The late IvyLeague (as a poster) stated that the New York families have become primarily a local enterprise.

Quote:
Apart from the Gambinos and Genovese, the American Mafia has absolutely nothing to say in the world.


Not even these families have much world wide sway anymore. And besides, the New York families never were as active on a global scale as let's say the 'ndrangheta.

Quote:
The question for me is how does it look at these 2 families?


Pretty stabile.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/07/16 12:36 AM

I also think the situation in Montreal has changed in a few years from a strict mafia tradition to urban gangsterism like we also see in for example Napels.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/07/16 01:55 AM

Things in Montreal just got very interesting if not downright confusing.

Le resto incendié avait accueilli des mafieux

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2016/12/06/le-resto-incendie-avait-accueilli-des-mafieux
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/07/16 03:00 AM

At least we know the Cotronis and Violis are still connected. Very little is known about Michel Cotroni.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/07/16 03:16 AM

Originally Posted By: Hollander
At least we know the Cotronis and Violis are still connected. Very little is known about Michel Cotroni.


One of Frank's brothers was named "Michel," who, according to one of Frank's obituaries from 2004, might have left Montreal a number of years earlier because he was not part of that world, i.e., the underworld.

There is probably another Michel Cotroni in the family.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/07/16 03:44 AM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
Things in Montreal just got very interesting if not downright confusing.

Le resto incendié avait accueilli des mafieux

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2016/12/06/le-resto-incendie-avait-accueilli-des-mafieux


Very interesting indeed.
The Violi's revenge plot theory, with the backing of the Ontario Ndrangheta, now seems to be more plausible.
-The owner of the restaurant connection with Dany DeGregorio from the DeVito clan.
- Cotroni's and Violi's meeting last October at that same restaurant.
-The Violi brothers being in Montreal the week before Nick Rizzuto sr. was killed.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/07/16 04:14 AM

I believe he is Frank Cotroni's son. He had six children,five boys were Nicodemo,Jimmy,Frank Jr.,Paolo and Michel.

Frank Cotroni did have a brother Michel but he is deceased, it is most likely one of his sons.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/07/16 04:39 AM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
I believe he is Frank Cotroni's son. He had six children,five boys were Nicodemo,Jimmy,Frank Jr.,Paolo and Michel.

Frank Cotroni did have a brother Michel but he is deceased, it is most likely one of his sons.


You're right, Ciment, about Frank's having a son Michel.

There's a pic of Michel on p. 2 of the PDF to which I've linked below (file size is about 8 MB).

La Presse article dated September 27, 1985
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/07/16 11:37 AM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
Originally Posted By: Ciment
I believe he is Frank Cotroni's son. He had six children,five boys were Nicodemo,Jimmy,Frank Jr.,Paolo and Michel.

Frank Cotroni did have a brother Michel but he is deceased, it is most likely one of his sons.


You're right, Ciment, about Frank's having a son Michel.

There's a pic of Michel on p. 2 of the PDF to which I've linked below (file size is about 8 MB).

http://collections.banq.qc.ca:8008/lapresse/src/cahiers/1985/09/27/01/82812_1985092701.pdf


Great find! Seems like most of the brothers have followed in their father's foot steps. Paolo was killed by the hitman Gallant in 1998.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/07/16 01:30 PM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...ur-la-mafia.php

Salvatore Scoppa making the news again.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/07/16 01:39 PM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2016/12/07/une-guerre-judiciaire-peu-commune

Condo's where the mafia and Hells were involved.
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/07/16 03:58 PM

Lots of interesting information lately but in a misty fog it could seem possible that remnants of the violi cotroni and friends have made some space for themselves lately and will continue to do.

The Cotroni-Violi meeting at the resto is super interesting as is the black dude hired by Scoppa who could of potentially murdered Campellone.

The number of people involved, alliances and such is hard to follow.

One things for sure, all the action happens in Montreal

Time will tell...

http://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2016/12/06/bu...lli-des-mafieux
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/07/16 06:04 PM

Linguini Restaurant fire may hold clues to Montreal mafia war

http://aboutthemafia.com/linguini-restaurant-fire-may-hold-clues-to-montreal-mafia-war
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/07/16 11:32 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...ur-la-mafia.php

Salvatore Scoppa making the news again.



Jesus Christ, that dude's head!
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/08/16 12:30 AM

Damn, things are definitely getting interesting
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/08/16 02:04 AM

Maybe just a coincidence but the murder of spagnolo and this linguini meeting were within the same time frame
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/08/16 02:14 AM

Originally Posted By: eurodave
Maybe just a coincidence but the murder of spagnolo and this linguini meeting were within the same time frame


I remember an article from 2012 that said Domenic Violi is now in power in Canada and is cleaning up. That is who the people in Quebec think it is. They said it was in retaliation for the murder of Paolo Violi and for pushing them out of Montreal in the first place.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/08/16 03:46 AM

Originally Posted By: eurodave
Maybe just a coincidence but the murder of spagnolo and this linguini meeting were within the same time frame


Yes it was, the Journal de Montreal mentions that this meeting at Linguini took place at the beginning of October and Spagnolo was killed on the Oct. 15. It's seems that whenever the Violi's are in town, some killing occurs thereafter. I noticed the same with Mirarchi when he would meet with the Ontario clans.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/08/16 03:53 AM

Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...ur-la-mafia.php

Salvatore Scoppa making the news again.



Jesus Christ, that dude's head!


Now that his brother might be going to jail, I guess he has to carry the load.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/08/16 12:39 PM

Speaking of the Violis I think they are the cousins of these two brothers who were involved in drug trafficking to the USA.

Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/08/16 03:57 PM

Looking back over the last year and timeline of events, it's interesting to note how things have changed.

On one hand, we've been hearing more and more about the Scoppa's and the rise of the bikers, as evidenced by recent arrests and murders, on the other hands we've seen 3 important figures in the Rizzuto loyalists get killed (Giordano, Sollecito, Spagnolo). These were older senior members.

A few months ago, journalist Cedillot had mentioned some sort of alliance brewing between bikers and the calabrians, could the recent meeting at Linguini be an indication of that?

The Lapresse article mentioned that some italian mafiosi were paying the bikers a tax, maybe the new structure put in place has enabled this.

If im not mistaken, the Cotronis have always been extremely close to the french-canadian community and by extension the bikers.

Most likely, the criminal map is being re-drawn within the city.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/08/16 04:17 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment


In English:

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/nation...2920/story.html
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/08/16 05:28 PM

Thanks Hollander!
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/08/16 06:19 PM

Originally Posted By: eurodave

If im not mistaken, the Cotronis have always been extremely close to the french-canadian community and by extension the bikers.

Most likely, the criminal map is being re-drawn within the city.


They said the Cotroni group was finished after the death of Frank in 2004, but it seems like they are still doing their own thing, they are deeply rooted in Quebec culture. I wouldn't besuprised if there is still a structure in place.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/08/16 07:59 PM

Frank Cotroni wasn't even a force in his later years, especially after his last release from prison. I also wouldn't jump to conclusions and assume the Cotroni group has all of a sudden regrouped, and become a force within the Montreal Mafia like old times. If there is some newly consolidated Cotroni group, I'd place it in the same group as the typical factions. Meaning it's group comprised of other Italian Canadian & French Canadian criminals moreso than Cotronis themselves. In other words, I simply don't believe there is anything at this point to go on that leads to them suddenly being a standalone faction.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/08/16 08:31 PM

Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
Frank Cotroni wasn't even a force in his later years, especially after his last release from prison. I also wouldn't jump to conclusions and assume the Cotroni group has all of a sudden regrouped, and become a force within the Montreal Mafia like old times. If there is some newly consolidated Cotroni group, I'd place it in the same group as the typical factions. Meaning it's group comprised of other Italian Canadian & French Canadian criminals moreso than Cotronis themselves. In other words, I simply don't believe there is anything at this point to go on that leads to them suddenly being a standalone faction.


Despite the power shift, Frank Cotroni appeared to maintain
considerable influence in Montreal's underworld.
In July 2002, he was still described in police
intelligence reports as "an important person in the Montreal
Italian Mafia and in Canada."
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/08/16 08:48 PM

Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
Frank Cotroni wasn't even a force in his later years, especially after his last release from prison. I also wouldn't jump to conclusions and assume the Cotroni group has all of a sudden regrouped, and become a force within the Montreal Mafia like old times. If there is some newly consolidated Cotroni group, I'd place it in the same group as the typical factions. Meaning it's group comprised of other Italian Canadian & French Canadian criminals moreso than Cotronis themselves. In other words, I simply don't believe there is anything at this point to go on that leads to them suddenly being a standalone faction.


Frank Cotroni was a force to be reckoned with in the 80s and inherited the so called Calabrian faction from his brother while Di Maulo, who was his protege, inherited it from him. Di Maulo married into the Cotroni family through his daughter and he took the Cotroni sons under his wing. So the Cotroni-Di Maulo faction (the old Cotroni-Violi group) never really ceased to exist up until this day.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/08/16 09:58 PM

Correct Sonny, they just operated in the shadows of the Rizzutos.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/09/16 12:51 PM

Desjardins and De Vito associate charged with importing cocaine

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2016/12...is-arrestations
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/09/16 05:39 PM

Originally Posted By: Hollander
Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
Frank Cotroni wasn't even a force in his later years, especially after his last release from prison. I also wouldn't jump to conclusions and assume the Cotroni group has all of a sudden regrouped, and become a force within the Montreal Mafia like old times. If there is some newly consolidated Cotroni group, I'd place it in the same group as the typical factions. Meaning it's group comprised of other Italian Canadian & French Canadian criminals moreso than Cotronis themselves. In other words, I simply don't believe there is anything at this point to go on that leads to them suddenly being a standalone faction.


Despite the power shift, Frank Cotroni appeared to maintain
considerable influence in Montreal's underworld.
In July 2002, he was still described in police
intelligence reports as "an important person in the Montreal
Italian Mafia and in Canada."


In '00 period before he died in '04, which are the "later years" I'm referring to, Cotroni wasn't much of a factor in the Montreal underworld, this is at least according to The Northern Connection & Peter Edwards. Not saying it's facts, but there's no reason to assume Edwards wouldn't have an idea. A law enforcement officer from the time is quoted as saying "he's slowed down quite a bit. The organization is in tatters, if you want to call it an organization." This officer is unnamed however, and I don't know which organization he's referring to, most likely the Cotroni group itself, meaning the direct group whom was under Cotroni & his brother themselves. He definitely stayed in contact with various undesirables though, I won't deny that, which was his reason for going back to prison in '02 on a parole violation, meeting with a man who went on to meet with old Cotroni associates. I believe he even released a cookbook during this period, I wonder how guys would've felt about that. It's not exactly writing a memoir but who knows.

Chapter 28 of the aforementioned book details the murder of Franks son Paul in '98. There's another quote by another unnamed member of law enforcement, granted, but the rumors were to them that the killers did a sort of risk assessment before they killed the kid and they supposedly determined "They (Frank's Crime Family?) didn't have the clout in place..."; Meaning the "old Cotroni group" of Frank's didn't have the clout to avenge the death of his own son. These were supposedly bikers, as rumors were he was selling diluted cocaine to biker gangs. Again, rumors, but again Edwards was also a reporter for these groups specifically, and this specific book is usually referenced when sometimes the Cotroni's come up in other places. But hey, he could be wrong, I don't suspect him to be right about everything.


As far as the current status of the immediate group, I think Frank's son Francesco is still around, he served time for murder before, and if he isn't in prison I can see him being the representation for the "Cotroni group", I guess in the same way Leonardo would be for the "Rizzuto group", so I could be wrong about they're current place within the Montreal milieu.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/10/16 02:28 AM

I believe Nicodemo is Frank's oldest son, who is technically the family's patriarch. I'm not sure, but I vaguegly remember reading somewhere that Francisco was out of the game. Perhaps this Michel is now representing the group since he was named along with Domenico Violi as attending that meeting.

I think, if true, a clash between the Rizzutos and Cotronis had to happen at some point. I'd say it was even inevitable given the history.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/10/16 02:40 AM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
I believe Nicodemo is Frank's oldest son, who is technically the family's patriarch. I'm not sure, but I vaguegly remember reading somewhere that Francisco was out of the game. Perhaps this Michel is now representing the group since he was named along with Domenico Violi as attending that meeting.

I think, if true, a clash between the Rizzutos and Cotronis had to happen at some point. I'd say it was even inevitable given the history.


Would be nice to see a list of the other 18 attendees.
Posted By: Marcow

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/10/16 02:57 AM

I Think some of the other attendees are members of the Ndrangheta in Ontario or some men with contact to the Ndrangheta Guys.

I think not that only the cotronis and violis have the finger in the game in Montreal in future. In the background are other Groups. Full Calabrians if you know what I mean.

Posted By: pmac

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/10/16 03:45 AM

Wow its cold in mass tonight like 17. So i can only imagine up there. Makes perfect sense just old scores being settled 30+yrs later. I being in the usa think it deffintly started in 2006when it was reported massino flipped and the whole montreal bonanno/rizzuto family has been whacked out. These guys fathers who were killed probaly on orders from nyc in the 70tys said you know what fuck them and there rat boss vitos gone lets kill everyone else standing behind him.
Posted By: pmac

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/10/16 03:46 AM

They won.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/10/16 08:48 PM

By the time Massino flipped, the speculation was that the Rizzuto's were no longer under the Bonanno's anyway. Idk about that anymore, but even if that isn't true, your line about the Montreal Bonannos/Rizzutos being wiped out is a bit inaccurate. Suppose the Rizzutos did get upset with Massino after the whole Sciascia thing, and stopped answering to Massino, the criminal group itself, existed and regaining strength even until the day Vito died. After that, they still merely existed in the criminal world (I don't know about thrived) under Leonardo Rizzuto & Stefano Sollecito. IF that isn't true, then the Montreal Bonannos still existed even after Massino flipped, as Cicale reports of Montreal kicking up to Basciano & Tony Urso (D'Urso?), then you have the whole Montagna connection, him being the literal link to the old Sciascia NY crew and there still being a link to the Bonannos & the Montreal group. Long story short, what I'm saying is, the Montreal Bonanno/Rizzuto group was never "whacked out" (at least maybe up until now) and those links and supposed testimony proves that Massino wasn't crucial to their survival. And clearly things that occurred before Massino's era is proving to have been the Rizzuto's ultimate downfall, NOT Joey Massino and him flipping.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/11/16 02:07 AM

It's just that most of the Montreal Bonanno crew members are now dead. Rizzuto, Di Maulo, Renda, Arcuri, Gallo and even Montagna. It is however possible that the Cotronis are still in contact with New York and have their support. The historical ties between the Cotronis and Bonannos were strong.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/11/16 06:30 PM

Yea the Rizzuto's thrived without the Bonanno's, they might have needed their strength early on but they probably quadrupled their money and strength in Canada without New York's help. That was proven as Rizzuto was at his height during the 2000's it seems. No telling where they would be had Vito not gone away to Supermax and gotten shitty health care it seems. And no telling what Vito was still worth when he died. Just look at his deal with Magi when he brought in help to pay for it and bought five of those condos for a $1 a piece. He probably could have netted more than the 1.7 they sold for, that's what we know about. The drug numbers are probably out of this world, as we seen Desjardins proved they were worth fighting over.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/11/16 08:01 PM

I think the key link between the two families nowadays is the drugtrade with the Bonnanos as customers.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/11/16 10:00 PM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: antimafia


Two pages back I posted a link to Daniel Renaud's October 4 article about the Solid Gold attacks. Here's the story link in case you haven't read the article:

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...s-criminels.php

According to the article, a source revealed that after Gallo's murder, Solid Gold passed into Stefano Sollecito's hands. The article also mentions that this information has not been corroborated by police. If the source's information is accurate, maybe one or more people close to Gallo were behind the attacks for a number of reasons, e.g., anger over Gallo's murder, resentment arising from losing the establishment.

If the information isn't accurate, the attacks may have been committed by people who were upset with Gallo's having sided with Montagna.

Toward the end of the article is the suggestion that because of the Solid Gold attacks, law enforcement will be looking into whether and how the murders of Rocco Sollecito and Moreno Gallo are related.


Yeah, I read that article (I rarely miss any) but I forgot about it stating that it had transitioned to Sollecito. It seems to me that Rocco Sollecito's murder could rather be linked to Giordano than Gallo, but who knows. Gallo had a small army of his own I believe. I still wonder where Mucci stood in all of this. Based on tapes of the Consenza club it looked like that Mucci was with Gallo back then. But based on information from Renaud, Mucci had supposedly distanced himself from Gallo during the take-over attempt because he chose to be neutral. Do you happen to have more information of Mucci's relationship with Gallo? I know that Mucci was in charge of a crew who where distributing coke, but I think that he was Gallo's second-in-command. Also, I ignored your advice and read your post in its entirety. ;) 


Sorry for only getting around to answering you now.

On September 26, 2012, Éric Vecchio, a police officer with the SPVM, where his title is lieutenant-détective, testified before the Charbonneau Commission inquiry (the CEIC). The transcript of his testimony will be found at

https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.ceic.gouv.qc.ca/fileadmin/Fichiers_client/fichiers/Transcriptions/2012-09/Transcription_audience_CEIC_2012-09-26.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwisnrCSjO3QAhUBw2MKHTm3A88QFggaMAA&usg=AFQjCNFg4WCbpeWWMyieIR6D0wRYsq9Xqw&sig2=lQO1HKjyxaZI9qd5OGI6NA

or at

https://www.ceic.gouv.qc.ca/fileadmin/Fi...2012-09-26.pdf.

At least one of these links should work.

Below is an excerpt from the transcript.

Q. Et également à l'instar de monsieur Moreno Gallo il faisait partie, il est calabrais?

R. Lui aussi il est calabrais, très proche de monsieur Di Maulo et très proche aussi avec le départ de monsieur Rizzuto, il y a toujours été dans l'entourage, là, des peut-être supposés prétendants au titre. Monsieur Mucci pendant un bout de temps a été, les rumeurs courait que c'est lui qui allait devenir la tête du réseau, la tête de l'organisation, ce qui était assez, tant qu'à moi assez farfelu, là.

Q. [419] Pour?

Parce que monsieur Mucci n'a jamais, n'a jamais occupé des, des postes clés dans le crime organisé italien à Montréal. Il a toujours été considéré comme un subalterne et non pas une tête dirigeante.
Donc son lien avec monsieur Di Maulo le laisse...

Donc monsieur Mucci a toujours été un peu dans l'ombre de monsieur Di Maulo. Donc le, le titre était plus ou moins farfelu.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/12/16 12:26 AM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: antimafia


Two pages back I posted a link to Daniel Renaud's October 4 article about the Solid Gold attacks. Here's the story link in case you haven't read the article:

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...s-criminels.php

According to the article, a source revealed that after Gallo's murder, Solid Gold passed into Stefano Sollecito's hands. The article also mentions that this information has not been corroborated by police. If the source's information is accurate, maybe one or more people close to Gallo were behind the attacks for a number of reasons, e.g., anger over Gallo's murder, resentment arising from losing the establishment.

If the information isn't accurate, the attacks may have been committed by people who were upset with Gallo's having sided with Montagna.

Toward the end of the article is the suggestion that because of the Solid Gold attacks, law enforcement will be looking into whether and how the murders of Rocco Sollecito and Moreno Gallo are related.


Yeah, I read that article (I rarely miss any) but I forgot about it stating that it had transitioned to Sollecito. It seems to me that Rocco Sollecito's murder could rather be linked to Giordano than Gallo, but who knows. Gallo had a small army of his own I believe. I still wonder where Mucci stood in all of this. Based on tapes of the Consenza club it looked like that Mucci was with Gallo back then. But based on information from Renaud, Mucci had supposedly distanced himself from Gallo during the take-over attempt because he chose to be neutral. Do you happen to have more information of Mucci's relationship with Gallo? I know that Mucci was in charge of a crew who where distributing coke, but I think that he was Gallo's second-in-command. Also, I ignored your advice and read your post in its entirety. ;) 


Sorry for only getting around to answering you now.

On September 26, 2012, Éric Vecchio, a police officer with the SPVM, where his title is lieutenant-détective, testified before the Charbonneau Commission inquiry (the CEIC). The transcript of his testimony will be found at

https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.ceic.gouv.qc.ca/fileadmin/Fichiers_client/fichiers/Transcriptions/2012-09/Transcription_audience_CEIC_2012-09-26.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwisnrCSjO3QAhUBw2MKHTm3A88QFggaMAA&usg=AFQjCNFg4WCbpeWWMyieIR6D0wRYsq9Xqw&sig2=lQO1HKjyxaZI9qd5OGI6NA

or at

https://www.ceic.gouv.qc.ca/fileadmin/Fi...2012-09-26.pdf.

At least one of these links should work.

Below is an excerpt from the transcript.

Q. Et également à l'instar de monsieur Moreno Gallo il faisait partie, il est calabrais?

R. Lui aussi il est calabrais, très proche de monsieur Di Maulo et très proche aussi avec le départ de monsieur Rizzuto, il y a toujours été dans l'entourage, là, des peut-être supposés prétendants au titre. Monsieur Mucci pendant un bout de temps a été, les rumeurs courait que c'est lui qui allait devenir la tête du réseau, la tête de l'organisation, ce qui était assez, tant qu'à moi assez farfelu, là.

Q. [419] Pour?

Parce que monsieur Mucci n'a jamais, n'a jamais occupé des, des postes clés dans le crime organisé italien à Montréal. Il a toujours été considéré comme un subalterne et non pas une tête dirigeante.
Donc son lien avec monsieur Di Maulo le laisse...

Donc monsieur Mucci a toujours été un peu dans l'ombre de monsieur Di Maulo. Donc le, le titre était plus ou moins farfelu.


Better late than never, thanks! wink

So another one who fell under Di Maulo's wing. This indicates that Mucci is probably not a made member, because the members of the Montreal Bonanno crew were high ranking in the Montreal Mafia as a whole. The were basically capos in the Cotroni and Rizzuto organizations.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/12/16 04:26 PM

Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
Originally Posted By: Hollander
Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
Frank Cotroni wasn't even a force in his later years, especially after his last release from prison. I also wouldn't jump to conclusions and assume the Cotroni group has all of a sudden regrouped, and become a force within the Montreal Mafia like old times. If there is some newly consolidated Cotroni group, I'd place it in the same group as the typical factions. Meaning it's group comprised of other Italian Canadian & French Canadian criminals moreso than Cotronis themselves. In other words, I simply don't believe there is anything at this point to go on that leads to them suddenly being a standalone faction.


Despite the power shift, Frank Cotroni appeared to maintain
considerable influence in Montreal's underworld.
In July 2002, he was still described in police
intelligence reports as "an important person in the Montreal
Italian Mafia and in Canada."


In '00 period before he died in '04, which are the "later years" I'm referring to, Cotroni wasn't much of a factor in the Montreal underworld, this is at least according to The Northern Connection & Peter Edwards. Not saying it's facts, but there's no reason to assume Edwards wouldn't have an idea. A law enforcement officer from the time is quoted as saying "he's slowed down quite a bit. The organization is in tatters, if you want to call it an organization." This officer is unnamed however, and I don't know which organization he's referring to, most likely the Cotroni group itself, meaning the direct group whom was under Cotroni & his brother themselves. He definitely stayed in contact with various undesirables though, I won't deny that, which was his reason for going back to prison in '02 on a parole violation, meeting with a man who went on to meet with old Cotroni associates. I believe he even released a cookbook during this period, I wonder how guys would've felt about that. It's not exactly writing a memoir but who knows.

Chapter 28 of the aforementioned book details the murder of Franks son Paul in '98. There's another quote by another unnamed member of law enforcement, granted, but the rumors were to them that the killers did a sort of risk assessment before they killed the kid and they supposedly determined "They (Frank's Crime Family?) didn't have the clout in place..."; Meaning the "old Cotroni group" of Frank's didn't have the clout to avenge the death of his own son. These were supposedly bikers, as rumors were he was selling diluted cocaine to biker gangs. Again, rumors, but again Edwards was also a reporter for these groups specifically, and this specific book is usually referenced when sometimes the Cotroni's come up in other places. But hey, he could be wrong, I don't suspect him to be right about everything.


As far as the current status of the immediate group, I think Frank's son Francesco is still around, he served time for murder before, and if he isn't in prison I can see him being the representation for the "Cotroni group", I guess in the same way Leonardo would be for the "Rizzuto group", so I could be wrong about they're current place within the Montreal milieu.


The risk assessment turn out to be wrong, the person that ordered the killing of Paul Cotroni, Johnny Plescio one of the founders of the Rock Machine was killed about two weeks later and his brother Tony Plescio was killed one year later. Johnny Plescio didn't like the fact the Paul& Frank Cotroni Jr. were doing business with HA.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/12/16 04:31 PM

If the Google translate is right I agree with that Mucci was not a major player in the upper echelon either. Still good stuff.

Edit: I may have misunderstood the post just for the record.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/12/16 05:04 PM

Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
Originally Posted By: Hollander
Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
Frank Cotroni wasn't even a force in his later years, especially after his last release from prison. I also wouldn't jump to conclusions and assume the Cotroni group has all of a sudden regrouped, and become a force within the Montreal Mafia like old times. If there is some newly consolidated Cotroni group, I'd place it in the same group as the typical factions. Meaning it's group comprised of other Italian Canadian & French Canadian criminals moreso than Cotronis themselves. In other words, I simply don't believe there is anything at this point to go on that leads to them suddenly being a standalone faction.


Despite the power shift, Frank Cotroni appeared to maintain
considerable influence in Montreal's underworld.
In July 2002, he was still described in police
intelligence reports as "an important person in the Montreal
Italian Mafia and in Canada."


In '00 period before he died in '04, which are the "later years" I'm referring to, Cotroni wasn't much of a factor in the Montreal underworld, this is at least according to The Northern Connection & Peter Edwards. Not saying it's facts, but there's no reason to assume Edwards wouldn't have an idea. A law enforcement officer from the time is quoted as saying "he's slowed down quite a bit. The organization is in tatters, if you want to call it an organization." This officer is unnamed however, and I don't know which organization he's referring to, most likely the Cotroni group itself, meaning the direct group whom was under Cotroni & his brother themselves. He definitely stayed in contact with various undesirables though, I won't deny that, which was his reason for going back to prison in '02 on a parole violation, meeting with a man who went on to meet with old Cotroni associates. I believe he even released a cookbook during this period, I wonder how guys would've felt about that. It's not exactly writing a memoir but who knows.

Chapter 28 of the aforementioned book details the murder of Franks son Paul in '98. There's another quote by another unnamed member of law enforcement, granted, but the rumors were to them that the killers did a sort of risk assessment before they killed the kid and they supposedly determined "They (Frank's Crime Family?) didn't have the clout in place..."; Meaning the "old Cotroni group" of Frank's didn't have the clout to avenge the death of his own son. These were supposedly bikers, as rumors were he was selling diluted cocaine to biker gangs. Again, rumors, but again Edwards was also a reporter for these groups specifically, and this specific book is usually referenced when sometimes the Cotroni's come up in other places. But hey, he could be wrong, I don't suspect him to be right about everything.


As far as the current status of the immediate group, I think Frank's son Francesco is still around, he served time for murder before, and if he isn't in prison I can see him being the representation for the "Cotroni group", I guess in the same way Leonardo would be for the "Rizzuto group", so I could be wrong about they're current place within the Montreal milieu.


It was also a dumb move on the Rock Machine part to pick a fight with the Cotroni's while they are waging war on the Hells. The position of the mafia was do do business with both biker gangs. The Mafia didn't want the Hells to become too powerful. They were playing a balancing act with them. Peter Edwards mentions that in this book that I am presently reading the "The Bandido Massacre"; also heard the same from another source.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/12/16 06:29 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
Originally Posted By: Hollander
Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
Frank Cotroni wasn't even a force in his later years, especially after his last release from prison. I also wouldn't jump to conclusions and assume the Cotroni group has all of a sudden regrouped, and become a force within the Montreal Mafia like old times. If there is some newly consolidated Cotroni group, I'd place it in the same group as the typical factions. Meaning it's group comprised of other Italian Canadian & French Canadian criminals moreso than Cotronis themselves. In other words, I simply don't believe there is anything at this point to go on that leads to them suddenly being a standalone faction.


Despite the power shift, Frank Cotroni appeared to maintain
considerable influence in Montreal's underworld.
In July 2002, he was still described in police
intelligence reports as "an important person in the Montreal
Italian Mafia and in Canada."


In '00 period before he died in '04, which are the "later years" I'm referring to, Cotroni wasn't much of a factor in the Montreal underworld, this is at least according to The Northern Connection & Peter Edwards. Not saying it's facts, but there's no reason to assume Edwards wouldn't have an idea. A law enforcement officer from the time is quoted as saying "he's slowed down quite a bit. The organization is in tatters, if you want to call it an organization." This officer is unnamed however, and I don't know which organization he's referring to, most likely the Cotroni group itself, meaning the direct group whom was under Cotroni & his brother themselves. He definitely stayed in contact with various undesirables though, I won't deny that, which was his reason for going back to prison in '02 on a parole violation, meeting with a man who went on to meet with old Cotroni associates. I believe he even released a cookbook during this period, I wonder how guys would've felt about that. It's not exactly writing a memoir but who knows.

Chapter 28 of the aforementioned book details the murder of Franks son Paul in '98. There's another quote by another unnamed member of law enforcement, granted, but the rumors were to them that the killers did a sort of risk assessment before they killed the kid and they supposedly determined "They (Frank's Crime Family?) didn't have the clout in place..."; Meaning the "old Cotroni group" of Frank's didn't have the clout to avenge the death of his own son. These were supposedly bikers, as rumors were he was selling diluted cocaine to biker gangs. Again, rumors, but again Edwards was also a reporter for these groups specifically, and this specific book is usually referenced when sometimes the Cotroni's come up in other places. But hey, he could be wrong, I don't suspect him to be right about everything.


As far as the current status of the immediate group, I think Frank's son Francesco is still around, he served time for murder before, and if he isn't in prison I can see him being the representation for the "Cotroni group", I guess in the same way Leonardo would be for the "Rizzuto group", so I could be wrong about they're current place within the Montreal milieu.


The risk assessment turn out to be wrong, the person that ordered the killing of Paul Cotroni, Johnny Plescio one of the founders of the Rock Machine was killed about two weeks later and his brother Tony Plescio was killed one year later. Johnny Plescio didn't like the fact the Paul& Frank Cotroni Jr. were doing business with HA.



Is there definitive proof that Plescio was killed by members of the Cotroni group though? I don't believe so. As you mentioned, they were already in a long standing war against the Hells Angels. The risk assessment simply could've been correct and someone outside of the Cotroni's killed Plescio over drugs, but unrelated to the Paolo Cotroni Jr. murder.


And we see how the Montreal Mafias game with the HAs turned out. They actually ended up empowering them and the HAs have outlasted the mafia group of Montreal for the most part. And I dont doubt the goal was to work with both groups, as evidence shows. Evidence also shows the relationship between The Rock Machine & The Montreal Mafia may have eroded over time. As Leonardo Rizzuto was involved in a fight with a member of Rock Machine, I believe this member was killed afterwards but I could be wrong. And it was I think Paolo Gervasi's kid whom was murdered by mafia loyalists for dealing drugs with the Rock Machine after HA complained. Or I may have that in reverse. And Cazzetta eventually joins up with HAs as well. And he seems to be, at least after Vito's death, the primary liason between the Montreal Mafia & The Hells Angels, him and Greg Wooley.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/12/16 08:16 PM

If you want definitive proof, then you better not believe 90% of what is said on this forum because no one has the proof or facts unless you happen to be there yourself.
It is only logic that a person like Johnny Plescio issues threats to two sons of a notorious crime family, orders the murders of Paolo Cotroni and then this person Johnny Plescio just happens to get killed two weeks after Paolo Cotroni gets killed.
Yep it must be coincidence !
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/12/16 10:27 PM

For what its worth, a very knowlegeable poster on another forum had stumbled upon an FBI file that stated that Gerlando Sciascia was believed (by the Bonanno admin) to have ordered the murder of Cotroni's son and was killed himself as a result of it. I'm not sure, but I believe this was apparantly said by Massino himself.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/12/16 11:17 PM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...-a-la-mafia.php

Attempted fire bombing....Marco Pizzi.

Things are heating up again.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/12/16 11:41 PM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
For what its worth, a very knowlegeable poster on another forum had stumbled upon an FBI file that stated that Gerlando Sciascia was believed (by the Bonanno admin) to have ordered the murder of Cotroni's son and was killed himself as a result of it. I'm not sure, but I believe this was apparantly said by Massino himself.


Gerard Gallant, Rock Machine hitman on orders from Plescio, confessed to having killed Paul Cotroni.
The Massino angle seems strange to me ,if you can get Massino's testimony on this matter I would be interested to know the connection.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/12/16 11:48 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
For what its worth, a very knowlegeable poster on another forum had stumbled upon an FBI file that stated that Gerlando Sciascia was believed (by the Bonanno admin) to have ordered the murder of Cotroni's son and was killed himself as a result of it. I'm not sure, but I believe this was apparantly said by Massino himself.


Gerard Gallant, Rock Machine hitman on orders from Plescio, confessed to having killed Paul Cotroni.
The Massino angle seems strange to me ,if you can get Massino's testimony on this matter I would be interested to know the connection.
'

I agree, maybe West End leader Raymond Desfossés had something to do with it because Gallant was his man.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/13/16 01:06 AM

Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
As Leonardo Rizzuto was involved in a fight with a member of Rock Machine, I believe this member was killed afterwards but I could be wrong.


Yes, almost certain he was killed. I think he even tried to go on the run once he found out who Leonardo was as I don't think he would have done it had he known.

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
For what its worth, a very knowlegeable poster on another forum had stumbled upon an FBI file that stated that Gerlando Sciascia was believed (by the Bonanno admin) to have ordered the murder of Cotroni's son and was killed himself as a result of it. I'm not sure, but I believe this was apparantly said by Massino himself.


That would jive with the story that Vitale might have testified to that they tried to make up a story on Sciascia. I mean it's not exact word for word but makes sense that they would spread the rumor to not think Massino was behind the hit or at least give them a reason to do it.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/13/16 02:50 AM

Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
As Leonardo Rizzuto was involved in a fight with a member of Rock Machine, I believe this member was killed afterwards but I could be wrong.


Yes, almost certain he was killed. I think he even tried to go on the run once he found out who Leonardo was as I don't think he would have done it had he known.

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
For what its worth, a very knowlegeable poster on another forum had stumbled upon an FBI file that stated that Gerlando Sciascia was believed (by the Bonanno admin) to have ordered the murder of Cotroni's son and was killed himself as a result of it. I'm not sure, but I believe this was apparantly said by Massino himself.


That would jive with the story that Vitale might have testified to that they tried to make up a story on Sciascia. I mean it's not exact word for word but makes sense that they would spread the rumor to not think Massino was behind the hit or at least give them a reason to do it.


Leonardo Rizzuto was not beaten by the Rock Machine, the biker that beat him up was a Hells Angel underling.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/13/16 10:23 PM

I didn't say he was beaten by a Rock Machine member, I overlooked it and Sinatra is the one that said Rock Machine. I just simply missed it when replying.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/13/16 10:50 PM

Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
I didn't say he was beaten by a Rock Machine member, I overlooked it and Sinatra is the one that said Rock Machine. I just simply missed it when replying.


Yes, I know it wasn't you Dixiemafia, that is why my response included Sinatra's quote. My apology if it was misconstrued.

I just wanted to correct the error in the original quote.
Posted By: vito_andolini

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/14/16 01:22 PM

Another fire-bombing at a business owned by Marco Pizzi: http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2016/12...ocktail-molotov
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/14/16 02:00 PM

Originally Posted By: vito_andolini
Another fire-bombing at a business owned by Marco Pizzi: http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2016/12...ocktail-molotov


Poor dude is catching hell up there lol


No worries Ciment!
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/14/16 02:05 PM

What's it all aboot?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/14/16 06:49 PM

Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
Originally Posted By: vito_andolini
Another fire-bombing at a business owned by Marco Pizzi: http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2016/12...ocktail-molotov


Poor dude is catching hell up there lol


No worries Ciment!


He doesn't seem to get the message.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/14/16 06:59 PM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...ie-criminel.php

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/police-investigating-arson-at-east-end-used-car-lot

This is the LaPresse & Gazzette version.
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/14/16 08:17 PM

It seems they're going all in to get Pizzi or anyone close to him...

I figure he'll be dead before the new year or people will have taken over his interests.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/14/16 09:10 PM

Seems like Pizzi is the last one defending the interests of the Rizzuto-Sollecito faction. Perhaps these bombings are also linked to the fire of that restaurant.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/14/16 10:17 PM

I agree that would make sense.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/14/16 10:24 PM


Quebec court acquits man in Hells Angels slaying after key witness admits lying

http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/quebec-cour...lying-1.3203637
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/14/16 10:36 PM

Originally Posted By: eurodave
It seems they're going all in to get Pizzi or anyone close to him...

I figure he'll be dead before the new year or people will have taken over his interests.



Good possibility, December is usually a busy month for the hitmen.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/14/16 11:06 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: eurodave
It seems they're going all in to get Pizzi or anyone close to him...

I figure he'll be dead before the new year or people will have taken over his interests.



Good possibility, December is usually a busy month for the hitmen.


You suppose they get a Christmas bonus?

As for Pizzo, I think that he might be some a sort of street boss for the jailed leaders of the old Rizzuto group who are still holding ground. They probably still have a crew of loyalist who pose a threat to the group trying to take over. I figure the restaurant set on fire might be their work and a message to the usurpers who in turn sent a message back by firebombing Pizzo's business.

Could it really be back to the basics with the old Rizzuto group aka Sicilian faction against the old Cotroni group aka Calabrian faction? With the latest developments it definitely seems like it. It wasn't so simple back in 2010 when it was a mixture vying for control.
Posted By: ralphie_cifaretto

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/14/16 11:09 PM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: eurodave
It seems they're going all in to get Pizzi or anyone close to him...

I figure he'll be dead before the new year or people will have taken over his interests.



Good possibility, December is usually a busy month for the hitmen.


You suppose they get a Christmas bonus?

As for Pizzo, I think that he might be some a sort of street boss for the jailed leaders of the old Rizzuto group who are still holding ground. They probably still have a crew of loyalist who pose a threat to the group trying to take over. I figure the restaurant set on fire might be their work and a message to the usurpers who in turn sent a message back by firebombing Pizzo's business.

Could it really be back to the basics with the old Rizzuto group aka Sicilian faction against the old Cotroni group aka Calabrian faction? With the latest developments it definitely seems like it.


It's Pizzi..not Pizzo
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/14/16 11:09 PM

It should be an interesting 2017.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/14/16 11:13 PM

Originally Posted By: ralphie_cifaretto
Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: eurodave
It seems they're going all in to get Pizzi or anyone close to him...

I figure he'll be dead before the new year or people will have taken over his interests.



Good possibility, December is usually a busy month for the hitmen.


You suppose they get a Christmas bonus?

As for Pizzo, I think that he might be some a sort of street boss for the jailed leaders of the old Rizzuto group who are still holding ground. They probably still have a crew of loyalist who pose a threat to the group trying to take over. I figure the restaurant set on fire might be their work and a message to the usurpers who in turn sent a message back by firebombing Pizzo's business.

Could it really be back to the basics with the old Rizzuto group aka Sicilian faction against the old Cotroni group aka Calabrian faction? With the latest developments it definitely seems like it.


It's Pizzi..not Pizzo


Do you think Pizzi is still collecting Pizzo?

You can consider it a typo given the proximity of the letters...
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/14/16 11:33 PM

I know back then in 2010 it was more like a minestrone of different clans trying to out do the other. We're starting to see more clarity by process of elimination.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/14/16 11:44 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
I know back then in 2010 it was more like a minestrone of different clans trying to out do the other. We're starting to see more clarity by process of elimination.


In 2010 it was a coalition of different groups against the Rizzutos that fell apart a year later.
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/15/16 12:23 AM

It was definitely more of a broth in 2010 with various groups vying for control which have now over time been exposed.

What we know for sure is that multiple fire bombings are usually a sign of things to come. Come to think of it, back in in 2009 most of the attacks on cafes were considered rizzuto bars, very few if any di maulo desjardins bars were fire bombed.

Leading up to Spagnolos death...rizzuto headquarters were hit


Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/15/16 01:26 AM

Originally Posted By: eurodave
It was definitely more of a broth in 2010 with various groups vying for control which have now over time been exposed.

What we know for sure is that multiple fire bombings are usually a sign of things to come. Come to think of it, back in in 2009 most of the attacks on cafes were considered rizzuto bars, very few if any di maulo desjardins bars were fire bombed.

Leading up to Spagnolos death...rizzuto headquarters were hit




The general consensus is that it was a coalition of Montagna-Arcuri-Di Maulo-Desjardins-De Vito that wanted to establish a new order and eliminate the Rizzuto leaders. That coalition fell apart in the summer of 2011 when Montagna conspired against Desjardins. The rest is history.

I agree with you that we're now seeing a similar pattern. However it needs to be noted that some of the firebombings in 2010 were attributed to Rizzuto loyalists ([BadWord] group). I figure they tried to keep control (by threat) of some businesses for drug trafficking purposes.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/15/16 02:10 PM

Nicola Spagnolo, the son of Vincenzo Spagnolo (who was killed this past October), has a contract on his head.

http://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2016/12/14/un-contrat-sur-la-tete-du-membre-de-la-mafia-nic-spagnolo
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/15/16 02:16 PM

Oh shit. So it's looking like it's back to the basics after all with the Cotroni-Rizzuto group going head to head for control of the Montreal Mafia. At least thats what it looks like. I think the imprisonment of other guys whom were speculated to be involved in this over drug offenses, like the Scoppa's, cleared the way for this to happen. It seems like the remnants of the old Rizzuto & Cotroni groups (I guess you can group Arcadi up with them now), is the only ones left on the street, and they aren't going to stop until the other side is completely wiped out. That's just my theory of course.
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/15/16 02:20 PM

A lot of armchair quarterbacking on this thread.
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/15/16 02:49 PM

As a one famous song said......Let it go, let it go...lol

In all seriousness, first the father now this dude and Pizzi, it's just a matter of time before they get to you.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/15/16 03:05 PM

I figure it had to happen sooner or later, they were just biding their time. With all these killings the new order set up after Vito Rizzuto's death was always an uneasy alliance. There was no clear, undisputed leader which suggests that they weren't prepared for Rizzuto's death. It's pretty amazing how fate can unfold and the unpredictability of events could make this a Game of Thrones 'Montreal Mafia special' episode.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/15/16 03:25 PM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: eurodave
It was definitely more of a broth in 2010 with various groups vying for control which have now over time been exposed.

What we know for sure is that multiple fire bombings are usually a sign of things to come. Come to think of it, back in in 2009 most of the attacks on cafes were considered rizzuto bars, very few if any di maulo desjardins bars were fire bombed.

Leading up to Spagnolos death...rizzuto headquarters were hit




The general consensus is that it was a coalition of Montagna-Arcuri-Di Maulo-Desjardins-De Vito that wanted to establish a new order and eliminate the Rizzuto leaders. That coalition fell apart in the summer of 2011 when Montagna conspired against Desjardins. The rest is history.

I agree with you that we're now seeing a similar pattern. However it needs to be noted that some of the firebombings in 2010 were attributed to Rizzuto loyalists ([BadWord] group). I figure they tried to keep control (by threat) of some businesses for drug trafficking purposes.


If the Rizzuto side/loyalists survive this there is nothing that can take them out of power lol
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/15/16 06:26 PM

http://aboutthemafia.com/nicola-spagnolo-now-a-target-in-the-ongoing-montreal-mafia-war

http://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2016/12/14/un-contrat-sur-la-tete-du-membre-de-la-mafia-nic-spagnolo

Nicola Spagnolo now a target.
Posted By: BronaZora

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/16/16 12:32 AM

Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
Oh shit. So it's looking like it's back to the basics after all with the Cotroni-Rizzuto group going head to head for control of the Montreal Mafia. At least thats what it looks like.


That was always the case, even when this whole thing started, it's just that people got confused because Montagna was in the picture and for a split second people thought that perhaps the Bonnanos were making a come back, when the truth was that Montagna was simply deported and he had no other choice but to get involved in Montreal to stay relevant. The mistake he made was he underestimated the power Desjardins had, he also thought that his Bonnano status actually meant something to these guys when the reality was that it did not matter much. He would have fared better if he just stuck with the alliance he made with the Cotroni guys and just be part of them, I mean he still would've been targeted by Vito once he got out but he would have had a better chance of surviving and staying relevant in the game had he stuck with those guys.

Anyways, while the picture does involve other external factors such as the Toronto Calabrian clans and the Contrera-Caruana clan, the root of the problem goes back to the beef between Nicolo Rizzuto and Paolo Violi, plain and simple. When the Rizzuto family took out the Violi brothers the Montreal group was still under the Bonnano banner. The Bonnanos gave the OK because Nicolo Rizzuto was heavily connected and close to the Sicilians, who were not only the main importers of narcotics, but also at the top of their game, this was a time where the Sicilian LCN was the most powerful Mafia out of Italy, not the 'Ndrangheta, it was also a time where the American LCN was declining heavily, so the Bonnanos basically did not want to risk messing with the Rizzutos nor did they want to lose the cash they were bringing in. Vic Cotroni had no choice but to give his blesssing, he was an old man and just wanted peace, if it meant taking out his protege so be it, the Rizzutos were way too powerful and were on their way to becoming the most powerful group out of Canada. Once the Violis were out, the Rizzuto faction stopped the war because the Cotronis backed out peacefully and agreed to give them the leadership of the group.

When the Rizzutos took over, Nicolo focused on his Sicilian connections and importing narcotics out of South America, while Vito was left to control the group in Montreal. At the time Southern Ontario (Toronto and Hamilton) was pretty much under the control of the Buffalo Mob, independent families did operate there of course such as the Calabrian clans of Toronto along the Luppinos and Musitanos out of Hamilton, but everyone played by the rules of Stefano Magaddino. Well when the Rizzutos took over, Magaddino was gone and the American LCN was pretty much in decline. The first move out of Montreal was to simply recruit Peter Scarcella and have him be their main representative in Toronto, those of you who don't know Scarcella, he was a Sicilian mobster that at one point was the driver for Paul Volpe, a Toronto mobster that was a made guy in the Buffalo Mob. Volpe was only a solider but he did have his own crew in Toronto so he was considered somewhat of a boss, when he got killed, it was Scarcella that took over that group which still exists today I believe. With Scarcella representing Vito in Toronto, and the Contrera-Caruana clan also operating there, the Rizzuto influence over the city was set. Their next sight was Hamilton, though this was a tougher task since John Papalia was actually a capo and he had a whole crew that was powerful there, also the Luppinos operated there who were Rizzuto enemies since Paolo Violi was married to the daughter of don Giacomo Luppino. So it seems like the Rizzutos waited til the 90's to make their move, this was a time where the Musitano family was rising, the Papalias and the Luppinos were declining, so Vito likely gave the order to take out the heads of the Papalia crew and pretty much made the Musitanos as his representives in Hamilton.

Business was good until Vito went to jail, but I should also say that going to jail or not this war would have still happened, why? Because of Violi's sons, plain and simple. These guys are pretty much the heads of the Luppino family in Hamilton, they're young and hungry for revenge and power, they're the main culprit of this whole war. They have good relations with the Toronto clans who are pretty much the most powerful today, they're backing the Cotroni group because their dad was in that faction, and they're likely driving the Musitanos out of power in Hamilton. If Leonardo Rizzuto wants a target, it should be these guys, I mean he may still have to deal with the Cotroni loyalists in Montreal, but so long as the Violis live, they'll always take out any Rizzuto man standing.

A good question is where does Arcadi stand in all of this? There was rumors that when he gets out he was going to make a run for it and take power away from this new leadership table. Seeing how Cotroni loyalists are taking anyone that was connected to Vito out, Acradi should rethink his plans carefuly, he's probably better off joining up with Rizzuto/Sollecito if he wants to survive, because I'm not sure the other side is interested in having him.
Posted By: pmac

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/16/16 12:57 AM

Brona good recap.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/16/16 08:15 AM

In the late 1970s or even the 80s the New York families weren't that much in decline yet and still very powerful. Their real decline started in the 90s. However, for the Bonannos the 90s were a good time and it wasn't until their entire administration flipped that everything fell apart. Montagna's status meant enough for people to align with him. However Desjardins himself didn't have much to do with the Bonannos at that point and neither did his guys which is why they didn't care for him to be the leader, and when Montagna tried to take out Desjardins it was simply kill or be killed.
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/16/16 09:00 AM

@Bronazora


+100

Good post, you get the importance of the drugs. And the position Sicily had at the time, in the WORLD, not just the US, and Canada.
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/16/16 09:01 AM

And your take on it jives with the opinion of Lee Lamothe, one of the authors of Sixth Family. In the mafia books thread, he said you would have to be dumb to see all this aggression vs the Rizzutos as anything but a vendetta...
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/16/16 12:49 PM

Great summary there and it seems to represent the situation quite well. I'd like to add that the Violis aren't the only ones seeking revenge, many montreal players were waiting for the Rizzuto empire to crumble. Desjardins best friend Bartolo had been murdered by the clan and some would argue the true violence started at that point.

The Violi angle is becoming more and more apparent it seems. It would make sense for theme to want the Rizzuto clan dead at all costs but they need support for that....the Hamilton mob on its own can't guarantee that kind of decision. They most likely have the blessing and support of the ndrangheta including nyc in the mix.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/16/16 03:10 PM

I'm not sure whether New York still wants to be involved in that powder keg (as Nicaso ones eloquently put it). If the Violis are the instigators, they're able to be so because New York has washed their hands of the city. And they don't have the manpower to take over Montreal themselves and so they have to resort to making alliances with players from within the city, which is obviously the case.
Posted By: BronaZora

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/16/16 04:58 PM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
In the late 1970s or even the 80s the New York families weren't that much in decline yet and still very powerful. Their real decline started in the 90s. However, for the Bonannos the 90s were a good time and it wasn't until their entire administration flipped that everything fell apart. Montagna's status meant enough for people to align with him. However Desjardins himself didn't have much to do with the Bonannos at that point and neither did his guys which is why they didn't care for him to be the leader, and when Montagna tried to take out Desjardins it was simply kill or be killed.


You're correct, the American Mafia was still powerful in the 70s/80s but it was in a steady decline. The truth is the American LCN was at its highest peak from the 30s to the 50s, they ran the syndicate like an oiled machine and no other Italian Mob group around the world compared. Then you had significant turning points such as the Apalachin meeting and the Valachi testimony, both of these events were the beginning of the decline. American LE started to catch up and with each decade, their power and influence decreased.

When the American Mafia was at its might, the Mob groups in Italy were very peasant like. That all changed when the Sicilians got their act together and created their own commission in the late 50s. Ironically, it was the Americans that helped them create it and Joe Bonnano of all people was one of the main organizers, from then on (Until they decided to act stupid and take on the Italian government) the Sicilians were on the rise which eventually played into the favor of the Rizzuto family later on.

During the 70s/80s the Montreal Mob was still very much so under the Bonnanos, by the 90s I would argue that they were under the Bonnano banner by name only but were independent and acted as such, they did kick up to them but I feel it was out of respect for Gerlando Sciascia since he was very close to Vito. Once Sciascia was gone, that was the end of it as it was clear that no more envelopes were being sent. Vitale was apparently sent to Montreal to make Vito a capo around 2001, he was received with respect and all but Vito declined the offer, that was a clear message to the Bonnanos that just in case they did not understand the memo back in 1999 (No more envelopes), this offer refusal should make it very clear that their time in Montreal was done.

As for Montagna's status, it was enough to get him a hello and an invitation to the club, but certainly not enough to make him the main power player. If he was gonna play, he should have just chosen a side and stuck with it to the end, instead he approached this as a Bonnano and acted like he wanted to bring them under the Bonnano order. This is why he approached Nicolo Rizzuto first and asked him to step down, when Nick Sr declined, Sal decided to team up with the opposition. He joined up with Desjardins and the other Cotroni loyalists, he also made trips to Hamilton to meet with the Luppino family (Violi brothers). It seems like his Bonnano status got the best of him because he thought he could just get rid of Desjardins and take control of the Cotroni guys, he did not realize that these guys don't care whether you're made or not, they were loyal to their own guys. Desjardins was the brother in law of Joe Di Maulo, he was also very connected to the Hells Angels and had significant power in the city of Montreal, Montagna's support was no where close to such in the city and the fact that there was no retribution made should be clear evidence that the group cared very little for him.

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
I'm not sure whether New York still wants to be involved in that powder keg (as Nicaso ones eloquently put it). If the Violis are the instigators, they're able to be so because New York has washed their hands of the city. And they don't have the manpower to take over Montreal themselves and so they have to resort to making alliances with players from within the city, which is obviously the case.


The Violis are not exactly trying to take over Montreal, their base is in Hamilton and I believe they'll continue to advance their power there. They're just heavily involved in taking out the Rizzutos and replacing them with the Cotroni faction. After all not only was their dad killed by the Rizzutos, he was also a top Cotroni guy. Their recent meeting with Frank Cotroni's son along with other signs are an indication of their heavy involvement, it's also obvious that the two sides are very close to one another historically. To extend the picture further I believe the Toronto clans who are the ultimate power today are probably in favor of this since they were always seen as Rizzuto's main indirect rivals, and while I'd say that the Montreal war in itself may not be a Sicilian vs Calabrese thing, when the 'Ndrangheta is involved, I think being a Calabrese may actually mean something, in which all of these guys (Luppinos/Violis and the Cotronis) are, the Musitanos are also Calabrese, but they were Vito's allies, back then this was a great thing, but times have changed and this past alliance may mean trouble for them in the near future.

As far as New York or any other American mafia family goes, their say in the matters or affairs within Canada is none existent. Their only say is in business dealings and ventures with the families of Canada, that's it.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/16/16 06:16 PM

Originally Posted By: BronaZora
Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
In the late 1970s or even the 80s the New York families weren't that much in decline yet and still very powerful. Their real decline started in the 90s. However, for the Bonannos the 90s were a good time and it wasn't until their entire administration flipped that everything fell apart. Montagna's status meant enough for people to align with him. However Desjardins himself didn't have much to do with the Bonannos at that point and neither did his guys which is why they didn't care for him to be the leader, and when Montagna tried to take out Desjardins it was simply kill or be killed.


You're correct, the American Mafia was still powerful in the 70s/80s but it was in a steady decline. The truth is the American LCN was at its highest peak from the 30s to the 50s, they ran the syndicate like an oiled machine and no other Italian Mob group around the world compared. Then you had significant turning points such as the Apalachin meeting and the Valachi testimony, both of these events were the beginning of the decline. American LE started to catch up and with each decade, their power and influence decreased.


The American Mafia as a whole was in decline by the 1970s, but the New York families weren't that much affected until the mid 80s. It wasn't until the 90s that they lost much of their power over the unions among other things. By that time the Bonannos weren't involved in the unions anymore and so were able to fly under the radar and left unscathed until the early 2000s.

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During the 70s/80s the Montreal Mob was still very much so under the Bonnanos, by the 90s I would argue that they were under the Bonnano banner by name only but were independent and acted as such, they did kick up to them but I feel it was out of respect for Gerlando Sciascia since he was very close to Vito. Once Sciascia was gone, that was the end of it as it was clear that no more envelopes were being sent. Vitale was apparently sent to Montreal to make Vito a capo around 2001, he was received with respect and all but Vito declined the offer, that was a clear message to the Bonnanos that just in case they did not understand the memo back in 1999 (No more envelopes)


It hasn't been made clear whether envelops were still being send or not after 1999. Vitale even admitted as such. Domenick Cicale, another turncoat, claimed that tribute was still being send. He also said that Massino and Rizzuto partnered a stripclub. In addition, journalist Daniel Renaud stated that Montagna was used as a go-between and reguraly traveled to Montreal in the years before his deportation.

Anyway, this discussion seems to be never-ending due to conflicting statements, opinions and preferences. And even if Massino himself comes out of the woodwork and states that he was still receiving tribute, the people believing in the 1999 indepence will probably refute it.

As for myself, I don't think or very much doubt that the Bonannos are still involved in Montreal, but I don't believe it ended in 1999, unless Massino confirms it.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/16/16 06:27 PM

Great posts Brona. Only thing I might disagree with is whether this would have happened or not under Vito's reign. I think if he stayed out of prison then no chance it happens because he was simply untouchable at that point. Once he went away, it gave the Controni/Violi faction and Desjardins (who seemed to be plotting his revenge already) faction was ready to pounce at that point. They were biding their time and figured more than likely he would eventually go down and they got their chance once Massino started talking. Most like Di Maulo who knew that would sink Vito, probably let others like Desjardins who might have not known (I think he drove Di Maulo then so he probably did know already) that it was coming and they plotted their revenge once Vito started fighting extradition.

I just don't see anyone strong enough until then to attempt an overthrow of Vito.

But excellent posts!
Posted By: BronaZora

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/16/16 06:52 PM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
The American Mafia as a whole was in decline by the 1970s, but the New York families weren't that much affected until the mid 80s. It wasn't until the 90s that they lost much of their power over the unions among other things. By that time the Bonannos weren't involved in the unions anymore and so were able to fly under the radar and left unscathed until the early 2000s.


This is why I said it was a steady decline, it took decades but LE eventually caught up.

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It hasn't been made clear whether envelops were still being send or not after 1999. Vitale even admitted as such. Domenick Cicale, another turncoat, claimed that tribute was still being send. He also said that Massino and Rizzuto partnered a stripclub. In addition, journalist Daniel Renaud stated that Montagna was used as a go-between and reguraly traveled to Montreal in the years before his deportation.

Anyway, this discussion seems to be never-ending due to conflicting statements, opinions and preferences. And even if Massino himself comes out of the woodwork and states that he was still receiving tribute, the people believing in the 1999 indepence will probably refute it.


I get there are mixed opinions, but Vito declining to be a capo was the biggest answer to Montreal's independence. Also being a business partner with Massino is one thing and answering to him is completely another matter. Vito above all was a successful business man, he always preferred the way of diplomacy which is why he was able to remain the boss of Montreal and be on top for such a long time. Even if they did not answer to the Bonnanos, there was still a lot of business to be made (Remember, these guys transported narcotics to the US, they needed people to distribute), it should also be clear that Vito did business with other families, notably the Gambinos, so it's only natural that these families keep in touch, there's a lot of money to be made. Further proof to this, due to the power shift in Canada and the conflict in Montreal, today we are seeing more of these Canada/US relations transition to the NY families and the families in Toronto instead of Montreal, does that mean the 'Ndrangheta families of Toronto answer to New York? Absolutely not.

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As for myself, I don't think or very much doubt that the Bonannos are still involved in Montreal, but I don't believe it ended in 1999, unless Massino confirms it.


The Bonnanos and all the other American families are having a hard time operating within their own turfs thank to American LE, if they're having such rough time on their own ground, I highly doubt they're capable enough to be involved in matters or control families in other countries.

Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
Great posts Brona. Only thing I might disagree with is whether this would have happened or not under Vito's reign. I think if he stayed out of prison then no chance it happens because he was simply untouchable at that point. Once he went away, it gave the Controni/Violi faction and Desjardins (who seemed to be plotting his revenge already) faction was ready to pounce at that point. They were biding their time and figured more than likely he would eventually go down and they got their chance once Massino started talking. Most like Di Maulo who knew that would sink Vito, probably let others like Desjardins who might have not known (I think he drove Di Maulo then so he probably did know already) that it was coming and they plotted their revenge once Vito started fighting extradition.

I just don't see anyone strong enough until then to attempt an overthrow of Vito.

But excellent posts!


Even if Vito did not go to jail, the Violi brothers and the Cotroni loyalists would eventually look for revenge, specially with the rise of the 'Ndrangheta families and their potential backing. The Rizzutos would have fared much better that's for sure, but a war would have happened eventually.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/16/16 09:46 PM

Originally Posted By: BronaZora

Even if Vito did not go to jail, the Violi brothers and the Cotroni loyalists would eventually look for revenge, specially with the rise of the 'Ndrangheta families and their potential backing. The Rizzutos would have fared much better that's for sure, but a war would have happened eventually.


I agree the honour of the Violi family was at stake. That's the risk the Rizzuto took when they let the sons live.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/16/16 10:18 PM

Marco Pizzi's name also appeared this summer on a blacklist of the Hells Angels. So maybe an agreement between the bikers and Rizzuto enemies like some media reported isn't far-fetched. It's a small world.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/16/16 10:23 PM

I agree.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/17/16 01:00 AM

About the Bonannos they are done in Canada according to a good source on the RD forum. If there is one NY family with influence in Canada now it's the Gambinos.
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/17/16 10:17 AM

I think the Rizzuto/Caruana-[BadWord]-ra/ Gambino connections go back to at least the 70s, Nicola Rizzuto was partners in a ranch with a number of heavyweight Gambinos and narcotics traffickers.

I think anti mafia posted something about Paolo Gambino having meetings in Ontario I the 70s.....



(The whole link....)
https://www.tni.org/en/paper/rothschilds-mafia-aruba



(Specifically)


Only when the Americans and Italians pooled their findings did they grasp what was going on. In 1983 the Italian police summarized their investigations in the Bono+159 report. The report identified [BadWord] and Caruana as the pivot of the well organized network moving heroin up to the US and the money down. It was the first time the clan was thoroughly examined. In fact, the police had uncovered part of the supply line for the Pizza Connection. But, while the US Pizza Connection trial resulted in the conviction of a significant segment of the network the authorities didn't find the real link between North-America and Sicily. (48) That missing link was to be found in Venezuela, where the [BadWord]-Caruana clan had set up their headquarters at the start of the 1970s, buying hotels and founding a string of businesses in Caracas and Valencia.

The most intriguing of the dozens [BadWord]-Caruana enterprises was a cattle-breeding company on an extended ranch in the state of Barinas, close to the Colombian border. It had its own private airstrip. A special task-force of the Venezuelan intelligence-service DISIP looked at this farm called Ganaderia Rio Zapa, established in 1971. (49) The shareholders of the firm represented the creme-de-la-creme of Mafia heroin-movers in those days:

(NOTE, NO BONNANOS AS FAR AS IMPORTATION, LAUNDERING, THEY ONLY COME INTO PLAY ONCE THE STUFF GETS TO NEW YORK FOR DISTRIBUTION...)

* Salvatore 'Cicchiteddu' Greco, the former head of the overall Commission of the Sicilian Cosa Nostra, and one of the pioneers in the international heroin trade (50);
* Nick Rizzuto, a lieutenant in the Montreal-based Cotroni Family, but highly independent and in fact subordinate to the Sicilian Mafia (i.e. [BadWord]-Caruana);
* Antonio Napoli, a high-ranking made member of the New York Gambino Family and 'the biggest mover of junk to the United States' (51);
* John Gambino, a relative of Carlo Gambino and boss of the Sicilian faction of the New York Gambino Family (52);
* Brothers Angelo and Francesco Mongiovì, figure-heads of the [BadWord] in Caracas and Italy's financial centre Milan. According to a DEA report, Angelo's son Nino Mongiovì married Paolo [BadWord]'s daughter and was the 'super manager for drugs of all kinds passing through Miami'. (53)

The DEA spotted them investigating the Napoli brothers of the Gambino Family in New York. Antonio Napoli had moved to Venezuela and was a partner in a [BadWord] business. At the time DEA headquarters figured the trail irrelevant; nevertheless, special agent Tom Tripodi was sent to Caracas. DEA-analyst Mona Ewell told reporter Claire Sterling that Tripodi "came back with the whole thing." (54)

"We saw the [BadWord] and the Caruanas. The security around their homes was incredible... They had control in Venezuela like you wouldn't believe... We saw their businesses, all fronts for paper-shuffling. What these people handled was the money. Their names had been coming up for years on the money. Historically, they worked the money. They did it for cocaine as well as heroin ... It was a tremendous operation, and it was going on a long, long time... In my opinion, that's still the key. They're the people with the money; they've been in the business of narcotics the longest."

The implication, as Italian investigator Alessandro Pansa has noted is that "Venezuela has its own Cosa Nostra family as if it is Sicilian territory ... Until this day, the structure and hierarchy of the Mafia has been entirely reproduced in Venezuela ... The clan has direct links with the ruling Commission of the Sicilian Mafia, and are acknowledged by the American Cosa Nostra." Pansa claims that they are the funnel for the Gambino Family. Indeed, according to Tommaso Buscetta, it was the all-powerful New York Mafia boss Carlo Gambino himself who sponsored the acknowledgement of the [BadWord]-Caruana Family. (55)
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/17/16 10:38 AM

I got a question guys, what exact role did Salvatore Catalano play, in regards, wait, let me rephrase...

Where did he stand in terms of;

1. His role within the Bonnano family? I know he was a capo, but in Sixth Family, they said he stayed to himself and just concerned himself with moving Sicilian mafia heroin. Yet he was important enough that he almost made boss of the family. I'm assuming this was a Sicilian mafia initiative? Them trying to get THIER MAN in a top spot in New York. To go with their operatives in South America, Sicily, and Montreal. I can't see the American guys having sponsored that decision.

2. What was his role in relation to John Gambino?
I ask cause I could never get a handle on WHO was in charge of the Pizza connection.
Having asked that question, I suspect Gambino oversaw the American end of the ENTIRE OPERATION, ( importation, distribution, AND laundering the money) while Catalano was in charge of distribution in NY?
Or was it, Bonnanos distribute in Brooklyn, and the Gambinos had Jersey? But they both were operating in Queens right? Did they split it?

I think John Gambino handled a separate operation, but was SUPPLIED by the same source in Sicily as the Bonnanos. I think the Bonnano dope came through the Caruana-[BadWord]-ras, through the Rizzutos, whereas the Gambinos dope went direct to the Cherry Hill crew, who were moving shit DIRECT for the Palermo clans. Whereas the Rizzuto groups loyalty was to Agrigento, and their allies?

(This excerpt)

The investigation only looked at the years 1978-85, and the figures proved to be conservative. Subsequent evidence revealed that the investigators had missed a lot of what was going on. In 1992 pentito Gaspare Mutolo, Cosa Nostra's contact with Thai traffickers, disclosed massive heroin transports at the start of the 1980s. In 1981, Mutolo organized a 400 kilo shipment to the US. The [BadWord]-Caruana clan received half of the load, while John Gambino's crew took care of the other 200 kilos. When the money of the first deal came back, Mutolo immediately started to arrange another similar transport. (57)



SEE HOW THEY SPLIT THE LOAD?


3. Any info on how the Gambino relationship with Toronto works present day would be greatly appreciated..
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/17/16 11:48 AM

The killed Carmine Verduci had also close links to the Gambino family.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/17/16 02:55 PM

Deadly conflict between pot producers
Sentenced to nine years for killing his boss

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2016/12/16/conflit-mortel-entre-producteurs-de-pot
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/17/16 06:33 PM

It seems the Gambino's have contacts with specific Ndrangheta clans both in NYC, Toronto and Italy.

Certain Italian indictments revealed that Ndrangheta clans have been supplying Cosa Nostra clans for a few years, dividing their turf and supply routes by either selling narcotics to eastern sicilian or western sicilian clans. I had read the Aquino-Coluccio and Commisso-Crupi's divide sicily by shipping either towards Catania or Palermo, the two biggest hubs for cocaine consumption and cosa nostra strongholds.

These relationships have been exposed, to a certain extent, by New Bridge and other elements of American ndrangheta building relationships with the American LCN. The role the Rizzuto clan and the CC clan has been somewhat replaced by stronger ndrangheta families with solid south american contacts. This isn't to say that cosa nostra clans aren't importing their own blow, but it seems the calabrians have solid supply routes at the moment.

This could also explain the recent turmoil in Canada, which is in a current state of war and renewal. The Calabrians want the market, they want revenge and they have power to do it.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/17/16 08:07 PM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...de-montreal.php

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...l-pasta-factory

Another molotov at a pasta company.
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/18/16 04:53 PM

That pasta company is Sicilian owned
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/18/16 10:54 PM

Originally Posted By: eurodave
That pasta company is Sicilian owned


Are you sure?

The company's website seems to indicate the family's roots in Campobasso, Molise--see http://pastaromana.com/en/history/.

Speaking of which, have any of the Quebecers om this board heard whether Mylena Di Maulo and Frank Cotroni Jr. are separated? divorced?
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/18/16 11:07 PM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
Originally Posted By: eurodave
That pasta company is Sicilian owned


Are you sure?

The company's website seems to indicate the family's roots in Campobasso, Molise--see http://pastaromana.com/en/history/.

Speaking of which, have any of the Quebecers om this board heard whether Mylena Di Maulo and Frank Cotroni Jr. are separated? divorced?


I can't call them and ask lol but I was told they were Sicilian...the company is named Romana but yet their "history" is in Molise.....identity crisis much lol

Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/18/16 11:18 PM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
Originally Posted By: eurodave
That pasta company is Sicilian owned


Are you sure?

The company's website seems to indicate the family's roots in Campobasso, Molise--see http://pastaromana.com/en/history/.

Speaking of which, have any of the Quebecers om this board heard whether Mylena Di Maulo and Frank Cotroni Jr. are separated? divorced?


Found same online:

Francesco married Milena Di Maulo, the daughter of high-ranking mobster Jos Di Maulo, in the summer of 1991. The event was held at the Marie-Riene-du-Monde cathedral in downtown Montreal and was attended by some of the top members of the Mafia, West End Gang, and the Dubois Clan. The couple would have two children together but their marriage would unfortunately end in divorce in late 2000.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/19/16 12:11 AM

Yeah they were divorced. Francesco was at the funeral of Di Maulo, but you never know how relations really were at the end.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/19/16 02:29 AM

Currently there are in Quebec about 80 active Hells Angels in freedom and 160 members of subordinate clubs or sympathizers. They celebrated their 39th birthday celebrations in Canada on Saturday night at a Sainte-Anne-de-Sorel hotel.
Posted By: pmac

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/19/16 05:07 AM

So i would imagine frank cotronis sons were inducted into the bonanno family when frank sr was still the capo during the 90tys even thou the rizzutos had the power. Are the controni kids made men? I would think the pops probaly asked massino and did the inductions themselves up there.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/20/16 11:58 AM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2016/12/20/le-bistro-pot-masson-vise-par-un-cocktail-molotov

Another molotov at Bistro Pot Masson

MONTREAL | The Pot Masson bistro, located on a Avenue in the borough of Rosemont-La-Petite-Patrie in Montreal, was the target of a Molotov cocktail during the night from Monday to Tuesday.
According to Benoit Boisselle, a public relations officer with the Montreal Police Department (SPVM), "a restaurant window was smashed by an unknown object before an incendiary object was thrown" a little before 2:30 am .
Fortunately, staff who were still on site were able to control the fire before the flames could cause serious damage.
No one was injured during the event.
The SPVM's arson investigators will begin their investigation in the morning, Agent Boisselle said.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/20/16 02:48 PM

^^^^
According to Quebec's business registry, the primary and majority shareholder of Pot Masson is a woman named Roxane Mercier. Does her name ring a bell?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/20/16 04:57 PM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
^^^^
According to Quebec's business registry, the primary and majority shareholder of Pot Masson is a woman named Roxane Mercier. Does her name ring a bell?


It does not ring a bell but I am wondering if this is biker related not sure though.
The area where this bistro is located is a french neighborhood. That area years ago,used to be Devils Disciples territory who lost in a biker war against the Popeyes that were backed by the HA.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/20/16 05:44 PM

Originally Posted By: pmac
So i would imagine frank cotronis sons were inducted into the bonanno family when frank sr was still the capo during the 90tys even thou the rizzutos had the power. Are the controni kids made men? I would think the pops probaly asked massino and did the inductions themselves up there.


Francesco was an important figure in the organisation so that he was made in the 90s makes sense.

Francesco was in charge of his father's drug network. He travelled to Columbia in February, 1995 and met with Gilberto Rodriguez Orejuela and Miguel Rodriguez Orejuela, the heads of the Cali Cartel. They met at Miguel's posh home and discussed setting up a major cocaine pipeline from Columbia to Canada. Francesco was also seen meeting major drug traffickers at the Villa Sorrento hotel in Mexico, which is co-owned by his father. He would run the network until Frank Sr. was released from jail on September 28, 1995.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/21/16 01:45 AM

Just because the kids dealt in drugs doesn't mean they were made into the mafia. There's just not much evidence to support Frank Cotroni's sons being made, Paolo for one, wasn't. And the Cotroni children were involved in the drug business long before the 90's, from his two sons, all the way down to his daughter and son-in-law. They were all involved in cocaine & hashish trafficking. Francesco was also imprisoned for murder in the 80's along with Real Simard & Claude Faber, for the murder of Giuseppe Montegano inside Francesco's club. It should be noted that Frank Cotroni Sr. at one point in '97 had direct contact to the Cali Cartel. Quite frankly, neither Frank Sr. nor Francesco (Frank Jr.) needed the Bonannos.
Posted By: thebigfella

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/21/16 01:57 AM

Sorry for the interruption, but when does the leonardo rizzuto trial start?
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/21/16 02:14 AM

I had no idea, their original family name is not Cotroni, but Cotrone.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/21/16 02:39 AM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
Nicola Spagnolo, the son of Vincenzo Spagnolo (who was killed this past October), has a contract on his head.

http://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2016/12/14/un-contrat-sur-la-tete-du-membre-de-la-mafia-nic-spagnolo


Did anyone read the May 11, 2013 French-language article to which I've linked below when it was originally published in La Presse?

http://www.pressreader.com/canada/la-presse/20130511/281702612228851

I'm surprised to find Nicola Spagnolo among the many witnesses the prosecution wanted to testify in a preliminary phase of Sal Montagna's murder trial. Spagnolo may have been either friendly with or hostile to Montagna--in my opinion only, very likely the latter.

The contract that Spagnolo is reported to have on his head probably has to do at least in part with his desire to avenge his father's death. The same might also be said about the imprisoned Liborio Cun-trera. But this assumes that the sons even know who was behind or directly involved in their fathers' murders.
Posted By: Stubbs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/21/16 04:16 PM

I remember that Alfonso Caruana of the C.untrera-Caruana clan was arrested back in 1998 in Woodbridge outside of Toronto and he apparently lived there. Are there quite a bit of mobbed-up Sicilians in Toronto as well? I wonder if the C.untrera-Caruanas had a lot of connections in Toronto and, if so, they must've lost a lot of power for Agostino C.untrera (who lived in Montreal) to be killed back in 2010. Either that, or they still had their power but the rival faction to the Rizzutos still wanted them taken out so they could takeover.

Also, how powerful was Alfonso Caruana? The media has made him out to be this huge Godfather, but that might've just been hype. He's in Italy serving time now if I'm not mistaken?

So many unanswered questions, but I'm beginning to think that the Rizzutos were not structured anything like the NY families and were more like the families in Sicily or even more like the drug cartels like Sinaloa, meaning more of a looser federation of different groups and interests as opposed to a structured, hierarchical organization... but I could be wrong.
Posted By: Stubbs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/21/16 04:20 PM

This article implies the C.untrera-Cauranas have had ties in the Toronto area for decade, but it's odd that they weren't well connected enough to the Ndrangheta to avoid the Montreal war... if the Ndrangheta was involved.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/21/16 07:19 PM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...ge-de-laval.php

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/molotov-cocktail-pitched-at-wyte-lounge-in-laval


A Molotov cocktail was launched in a commercial building in Laval after the bars closed.

The target location was the Wyte Lounge Restaurant located at 378 Curé-Labelle Boulevard in the Chomedey neighborhood.

It was a fire alarm that alerted the firefighters around 3:30 on Wednesday morning. They quickly detected smells of accelerating and a broken window.

However, the damage is limited to the trade concerned, so that the adjacent businesses were able to open their doors normally in the morning.

The case was transferred to investigators from the Laval Police Service.

Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/21/16 07:37 PM

Originally Posted By: Stubbs
I remember that Alfonso Caruana of the C.untrera-Caruana clan was arrested back in 1998 in Woodbridge outside of Toronto and he apparently lived there. Are there quite a bit of mobbed-up Sicilians in Toronto as well? I wonder if the C.untrera-Caruanas had a lot of connections in Toronto and, if so, they must've lost a lot of power for Agostino C.untrera (who lived in Montreal) to be killed back in 2010. Either that, or they still had their power but the rival faction to the Rizzutos still wanted them taken out so they could takeover.

Also, how powerful was Alfonso Caruana? The media has made him out to be this huge Godfather, but that might've just been hype. He's in Italy serving time now if I'm not mistaken?

So many unanswered questions, but I'm beginning to think that the Rizzutos were not structured anything like the NY families and were more like the families in Sicily or even more like the drug cartels like Sinaloa, meaning more of a looser federation of different groups and interests as opposed to a structured, hierarchical organization... but I could be wrong.



Alfonso is in prison, but his brother Gerlando lives in the Montreal area.
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/22/16 01:24 AM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...ge-de-laval.php

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/molotov-cocktail-pitched-at-wyte-lounge-in-laval


A Molotov cocktail was launched in a commercial building in Laval after the bars closed.

The target location was the Wyte Lounge Restaurant located at 378 Curé-Labelle Boulevard in the Chomedey neighborhood.

It was a fire alarm that alerted the firefighters around 3:30 on Wednesday morning. They quickly detected smells of accelerating and a broken window.

However, the damage is limited to the trade concerned, so that the adjacent businesses were able to open their doors normally in the morning.

The case was transferred to investigators from the Laval Police Service.



Arab owned in a heavy Greek middle eastern neighbourhood
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/23/16 12:57 AM

This past October, Franco Roberti--Italy's national antimafia and antiterrorism public prosecutor--along with a delegation of Italian judges who are part of La Commissione Parlamentare Antimafia (the Italian Parliament's antimafia commission), visited Canada for a series of meetings with Canada's Minister of Justice and other counterparts.

Roberti and the delegation were told that between 2009 and the current year, there were 20 crimes in Canada attributed to clashes between mafia groups (mostly 'ndranghetisti versus Siclians) and to clashes between 'ndrangheta factions vying for control of both illicit and legal activities.

Link to Italian-language article published two days ago:

http://www.ansa.it/legalita/rubriche/spe...48c492c538.html
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/23/16 12:55 PM

This article further confirms what some of us thought all along that the ndrangheta was behind this feud in Montreal. What is also interesting is the mention of clashes between ndrangheta factions. Probably referring to the Figliomeni/Coluccio incident in Toronto that resulted in Carmine Verduci's death.

Good article.
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/23/16 01:19 PM

Great article thanks.

Would be interesting to see which of the ndrangheta cells was most motivated in pushing out Rizzuto and what relationship do the Violis currently have with the camera di controllo
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/23/16 01:58 PM

Originally Posted By: eurodave
Great article thanks.

Would be interesting to see which of the ndrangheta cells was most motivated in pushing out Rizzuto and what relationship do the Violis currently have with the camera di controllo


For the Violi's to be participating in the feud, they must of gotten the green light from the camera di controllo. With regards to which cells would have the motivation,I would be very interested to know myself. I have two that come to mind that interacted with Rizzuto for good and for bad but it remains to be seen.
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/23/16 02:16 PM

There has been mention that Bruzzese was in constant communication with Rizzuto and his top men. Bruzzese was head of the Grotteria locale which I think is subordinate to Siderno and Rocella-Gioiosa in terms of power and influence.

I had read that the Commissos always had an uneasy relationship with the Rizzuto clan.

Ciment whatso your take?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/23/16 02:40 PM

Those two are the one's I had in mind. The book Business or Blood on page 184 mentions that the Coluccio's were central to the Ndrangheta push into Montreal. Bruzzese(Coluccio's father-in-law) at one point had good relations with Rizzuto but I guess they decided to take advantage when he was jailed. The book also confirms that the Commisso/Rizzuto relations were not good. The Commisso's are related by marriage to the Luppino's which puts the Violi's in good standing.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/23/16 02:47 PM

The killing of Giordano the strongman of the Rizzutos was probably also a warning to Arcadi.
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/23/16 02:53 PM

Funny enough both Arcadi and Giordano are from Reggio but central to the Rizzuto organization
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/23/16 03:05 PM

On page 78 of Business or Blood we read:

"It was around the time of Della Peschios killing in 2009 that wealthy montreal cafe owner and desjardins protégé Mirarchi quietly made a trip to Woodbridge to attend the opening of a modest eatery in the heart of Ndrangheta territory, territory where his was becoming a familiar face as Desjardins group sought to firm up its Calabrian connections. The York region restaurant was the business of a relative of Antonio Commisso."
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/23/16 03:19 PM

Originally Posted By: thebigfella
Sorry for the interruption, but when does the leonardo rizzuto trial start?


The justice system works very slowly maybe in 2017, he will stay in prison untill the trial anyway. Not sure what the charges are but I think Leo will only be convicted of arms and cocaine possession, not trafficking.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/23/16 04:32 PM

Originally Posted By: eurodave
On page 78 of Business or Blood we read:

"It was around the time of Della Peschios killing in 2009 that wealthy montreal cafe owner and desjardins protégé Mirarchi quietly made a trip to Woodbridge to attend the opening of a modest eatery in the heart of Ndrangheta territory, territory where his was becoming a familiar face as Desjardins group sought to firm up its Calabrian connections. The York region restaurant was the business of a relative of Antonio Commisso."


I think we are on the right track.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/23/16 04:36 PM

Originally Posted By: eurodave
Funny enough both Arcadi and Giordano are from Reggio but central to the Rizzuto organization


You would think Arcadi being calabrese would understand the power of the Ndrangheta. Del Balso is also a calabrese I believe.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/23/16 05:10 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: eurodave
Funny enough both Arcadi and Giordano are from Reggio but central to the Rizzuto organization


You would think Arcadi being calabrese would understand the power of the Ndrangheta. Del Balso is also a calabrese I believe.


Even some of his family members back in Sant'Agata del Bianco are members of the 'Ndrangheta.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/23/16 05:26 PM

Originally Posted By: eurodave
On page 78 of Business or Blood we read:

"It was around the time of Della Peschios killing in 2009 that wealthy montreal cafe owner and desjardins protégé Mirarchi quietly made a trip to Woodbridge to attend the opening of a modest eatery in the heart of Ndrangheta territory, territory where his was becoming a familiar face as Desjardins group sought to firm up its Calabrian connections. The York region restaurant was the business of a relative of Antonio Commisso."


page 32 makes it more clear: Sept.17,2009 man connected to powerful Commisso crime family of the GTA flew to Montreal to meet with Mirarchi among others.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/23/16 05:26 PM

Good point
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/23/16 06:14 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: eurodave
Funny enough both Arcadi and Giordano are from Reggio but central to the Rizzuto organization


You would think Arcadi being calabrese would understand the power of the Ndrangheta. Del Balso is also a calabrese I believe.


Del Balso is from Bari like Sollecito
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/23/16 07:57 PM

If this was a 'ndrangheta organized take-over from the get-go it seems that they had enough respect (or fear) for Vito Rizzuto to allow him reclaim what was his and let him have his revenge... A little peculiar isn't it?

I can only imagine how that meeting in Toronto between Vito Rizzuto, the Calabrians and reps from NewYork went on. Obviously they struck some kind of a peace agreement in which Rizzuto was given carte blanche to kill his enemies, at least in Montreal. I state this because between his return and sudden death basically all victims were known enemies and there was no retaliation at the time. Yet I wonder why they didn't just kill him and be done with it. Cut the head of the snake so to speak. The most logical explanation is respect or fear or a combination. Ofcourse everyone also knew Rizzuto was the only one still alive who had proven to be capable to lead and bring stability among the factions. Perhaps it was only a practical decision given that the coup at the time had failed and had only created more turmoil.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/23/16 07:59 PM

Originally Posted By: Hollander
The killing of Giordano the strongman of the Rizzutos was probably also a warning to Arcadi.


Seems that way now don't it? I was interested in seeing which side he was on but when Giordano was killed right away and the fact that Arcadi seemed to stay loyal to Vito when he was away that they are all targets now. I don't see Arcadi going away quietly though. Isn't he still in prison after they put him back in after Giordano was killed?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/23/16 08:23 PM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
If this was a 'ndrangheta organized take-over from the get-go it seems that they had enough respect (or fear) for Vito Rizzuto to reclaim what was his and let him have his revenge... A little peculiar isn't it?


This is a good question,I once asked myself that very question but after rationalizing this I came to ask myself what valuable or high ranking targets did the Ndrangheta lose in this power struggle? Then the answer I came up with is none. The people that got killed are all associates from Montreal and none from the Toronto ndrangheta clans. I admit Vito put up a good fight in Montreal while he was alive but in reality his problem stemmed from elsewhere.
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/23/16 08:42 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
If this was a 'ndrangheta organized take-over from the get-go it seems that they had enough respect (or fear) for Vito Rizzuto to reclaim what was his and let him have his revenge... A little peculiar isn't it?


This is a good question,I once asked myself that very question but after rationalizing this I came to ask myself what valuable or high ranking targets did the Ndrangheta lose in this power struggle? Then the answer I came up with is none. The people that got killed are all associates from Montreal and none from the Toronto ndrangheta clans. I admit Vito put up a good fight in Montreal while he was alive but in reality his problem stemmed from elsewhere.


Good point as the only major murder in Toronto was between ndrangheta cells. The blood was spilled primarily in Montreal
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/23/16 08:46 PM

Originally Posted By: eurodave
Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: eurodave
Funny enough both Arcadi and Giordano are from Reggio but central to the Rizzuto organization


You would think Arcadi being calabrese would understand the power of the Ndrangheta. Del Balso is also a calabrese I believe.


Del Balso is from Bari like Sollecito


http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...project-colisee

The article refers Del Balso, caught on tape ,as being from Calabria
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/23/16 08:55 PM

Originally Posted By: eurodave
Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
If this was a 'ndrangheta organized take-over from the get-go it seems that they had enough respect (or fear) for Vito Rizzuto to reclaim what was his and let him have his revenge... A little peculiar isn't it?


This is a good question,I once asked myself that very question but after rationalizing this I came to ask myself what valuable or high ranking targets did the Ndrangheta lose in this power struggle? Then the answer I came up with is none. The people that got killed are all associates from Montreal and none from the Toronto ndrangheta clans. I admit Vito put up a good fight in Montreal while he was alive but in reality his problem stemmed from elsewhere.


Good point as the only major murder in Toronto was between ndrangheta cells. The blood was spilled primarily in Montreal


Maybe some of the Calabrian victims in Montreal like Tony Callocchia and Moreno Gallo have ties to 'ndrangheta.
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/23/16 09:01 PM

Originally Posted By: Hollander
Originally Posted By: eurodave
Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
If this was a 'ndrangheta organized take-over from the get-go it seems that they had enough respect (or fear) for Vito Rizzuto to reclaim what was his and let him have his revenge... A little peculiar isn't it?


This is a good question,I once asked myself that very question but after rationalizing this I came to ask myself what valuable or high ranking targets did the Ndrangheta lose in this power struggle? Then the answer I came up with is none. The people that got killed are all associates from Montreal and none from the Toronto ndrangheta clans. I admit Vito put up a good fight in Montreal while he was alive but in reality his problem stemmed from elsewhere.


Good point as the only major murder in Toronto was between ndrangheta cells. The blood was spilled primarily in Montreal


Maybe some of the Calabrian victims in Montreal like Tony Callocchia and Moreno Gallo have ties to 'ndrangheta.


At most they might have some business interests with ndrangheta men but they're not ndrangheta members. Theyre both montrealers that were part of the local syndicate. Moreno didn't even stay in italy very long after extradition
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/23/16 09:10 PM

Originally Posted By: eurodave

At most they might have some business interests with ndrangheta men but they're not ndrangheta members. Theyre both montrealers that were part of the local syndicate. Moreno didn't even stay in italy very long after extradition


Yes, but the ties are clear Gallo and Montagna had a meeting with the Violis in Toronto.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/23/16 09:21 PM

Yes they did meet with the Violi's but it does not make them Ndrangheta members. They were part of the consortium to take out the Rizzuto's then there was a split between Desjardin/Mirarchi and Montagna/Arcuri. Gallo sided with Montagna after that split.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/23/16 09:30 PM

No they weren't made into 'ndrangheta, but you have to look at the relations between cosa nostra and 'ndrangheta. They are all Uomini d'Onore so it's not that black and white. Look at the wedding anniversary of Paolo C untrera.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/23/16 09:42 PM

Sorry, Hollander I may have missed the point your making. Eurodave or I never said there was no relationship or ties between the Cosa Nostra and the Ndrangheta.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/23/16 09:53 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
Sorry, Hollander I may have missed the point your making. Eurodave or I never said there was no relationship or ties between the Cosa Nostra and the Ndrangheta.


I know, it was aimed at the media who are often talking about a 'ndrangheta take-over or Sicilians vs Calabrians. Which is bs IMO.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/23/16 10:57 PM

The town of Hamilton is rough, but they stay often under the radar.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/24/16 05:15 PM


Merry Christmas & Buon Natale to everyone !
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/24/16 10:05 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment

Merry Christmas & Buon Natale to everyone !


Joyeux Noël !
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/26/16 02:23 PM

Deux tentatives d’incendies criminels dans des restaurants

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2016/12...des-restaurants
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/26/16 02:43 PM

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/montreal-molotov-cocktails-1.3912718?cmp=rss

English article
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/26/16 04:26 PM

I'm a bit perplexed by these two incidents as the establishments are kind of hipster joints...upper middle class and very French
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/26/16 09:59 PM

Tomorrow in Grumo Appula, in the province of Bari, they will hold a mass in memory of Rocco Sollecito, shot dead a few months ago in Montreal.


Posted By: pmac

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/27/16 12:42 AM

I read on her that vito rizzuto was playing golf before he died with that guy joe dimaulos brother. Did he take vitos side over his own brothers. Last question out of all the montreal bonannos, sal vitale said there was 20around the year 2000. Are they all dead? By murder or old age. Surposely frank lino said some politician was a made guy in there crew ive never heard he died. And finally so its a deffinit no any of the cotroni sons were inducted by the father or rizzuto?
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/27/16 12:15 PM

Originally Posted By: Hollander
Tomorrow in Grumo Appula, in the province of Bari, they will hold a mass in memory of Rocco Sollecito, shot dead a few months ago in Montreal.




"Italian priest sparks scandal after inviting public to mass for slain Canada mafia boss"

http://www.thelocal.it/20161227/uproar-as-priest-invites-public-to-mass-for-slain-canada-mafia-boss
Posted By: GangstersInc

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/27/16 02:36 PM

Public church mass in memory of slain Montreal Mafia boss Rocco Sollecito canceled – Mass was to be held in Italy

http://gangstersinc.ning.com/profiles/bl...ia-boss-rocco-s
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/27/16 09:48 PM

"Church mass for murdered Canadian mafioso Rocco Sollecito kiboshed by Catholic authorities"

http://www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/news/ca...lic-authorities

"Mafia boss Mass nixed"

http://www.ansa.it/english/news/2016/12/...c5b66405cb.html
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/27/16 09:57 PM

"Planned mass in Italy for reputed Montreal mobster is scrapped after outcry"

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/News/12597029/story.html

This last part of the Canadian Press article seems to contain erroneous information:

A retired Montreal police investigator familiar with the Mafia told The Canadian Press Sollecito was Vito Rizzuto’s “right-hand man” and was blamed by some in the Rizzuto clan for not doing enough to protect the family when Vito was in prison.

Sollecito reportedly had been making money on his own and had fallen out with the Rizzutos.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/27/16 11:51 PM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
"Planned mass in Italy for reputed Montreal mobster is scrapped after outcry"

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/News/12597029/story.html

This last part of the Canadian Press article seems to contain erroneous information:

A retired Montreal police investigator familiar with the Mafia told The Canadian Press Sollecito was Vito Rizzuto’s “right-hand man” and was blamed by some in the Rizzuto clan for not doing enough to protect the family when Vito was in prison.

Sollecito reportedly had been making money on his own and had fallen out with the Rizzutos.


Someone seems to be confused with either Di Maulo or Arcadi. Note that it was rumored on the old RD forum that Arcadi had fallen out of favor because he had been making deals on his own. Then again, people can easily spread false rumors on the internet.

Whatever the case, what this article states about Sollecito doesn't make sense.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/28/16 12:01 AM

Arcadis falling out amongst some of the Sicilian members of the Montreal Mafia was attributed to his closeness with the Calabrians. At least thats whats stated in Business Or Blood.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/28/16 12:24 AM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: antimafia
"Planned mass in Italy for reputed Montreal mobster is scrapped after outcry"

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/News/12597029/story.html

This last part of the Canadian Press article seems to contain erroneous information:

A retired Montreal police investigator familiar with the Mafia told The Canadian Press Sollecito was Vito Rizzuto’s “right-hand man” and was blamed by some in the Rizzuto clan for not doing enough to protect the family when Vito was in prison.

Sollecito reportedly had been making money on his own and had fallen out with the Rizzutos.


Someone seems to be confused with either Di Maulo or Arcadi. Note that it was rumored on the old RD forum that Arcadi had fallen out of favor because he had been making deals on his own. Then again, people can easily spread false rumors on the internet.

Whatever the case, what this article states about Sollecito doesn't make sense.


I agree with you Sonny Black it makes no sense, if that were the case V.Rizzuto would of taken him out when he got released from prison. Furthermore, after Vito's death, Sollecito's son would not have been allowed to sit at the round table and assume a leader's role.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/28/16 01:22 AM

It's pretty interesting that the Sollecito family has major business interests in Italy.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/28/16 01:37 AM

Before Rizzuto died , he too had a lot of business interests in Italy . So not that surprising.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/28/16 12:26 PM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...-a-montreal.php

Montreal Fire bombings on the rise 2016
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/28/16 01:20 PM

If it's true that Solid Gold became Sollecito, then I would list the rival spots as:

Beaches...former de vito colapelle hangout

Linguini

The other places are all tied to the Rizzuto clan somehow
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/28/16 03:22 PM

http://www.giuseppelumia.it/2014/evoluzi...italoamericana/

The Italians are keeping abreast of the situation in Canada
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/28/16 06:29 PM

I have to agree, no way did Rocco Sollecito fall out of favor with Vito. It just doesn't make sense plus the fact him and Vito were very close for a very long time. I would definitely agree that if that was true for anyone it would be Arcadi over Sollecito and we still don't really know what side Frank is on.

Same for Stefano becoming a leading figure too, no way would Vito trust the family after his death if Rocco had turned on him.

And Sinatra is right, Vito did have some business dealings in Italy/Sicily so it only makes sense that what seems to be his best friend would have some dealings there too.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/28/16 11:47 PM

Yves Lavigne says the territorial push of the Hells Angels into the Maritimes is an attempt to ensure they control the drug market from coast to coast.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/hells-angels-make-return-to-maritimes-1.3913710
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/29/16 01:09 PM

http://www.985fm.ca/actualites/nouvelles...vsxzb7c.twitter

"The reign of Rizzuto and Sicilians is over in Montreal" - journalist Daniel Renaud
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/29/16 02:41 PM

Great article Cement!

Daniel seems to always bring great knowledge and perspective.

I wish he would of mentioned those 2-3 leaders lol!

I have a feeling Scoppa is one of them
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/29/16 04:08 PM

Yea, so do I . But I'm just repeating myself at this point. Anybody mind posting a translation of that article?
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/29/16 04:17 PM

"The reign of the Rizzuto and the Sicilians is over ...
"The reign of Rizzuto and Sicilians is over in Montreal" - journalist Daniel Renaud
Published by Jacques Thériault for 98.5 fm on Wednesday December 28, 2016 at 19h34.

Funeral of Vito Rizzuto on December 30, 2013 / PC - Graham Hughes, archive

(98.5 FM) - Since the beginning of the year 2016, the Montreal Police Department (SPVM) has counted 13 arson attacks, don 12 since September, linked to clan wars within the Mafia.

Journalist Daniel Renaud, a criminal affairs specialist with the daily La Presse, spoke with Marie-Claude Lavallée on Le Québec now on Wednesday afternoon.

"It is clear that this expresses a renewed tensions within the mafia," said Daniel Renaud. The mafia has been shaken by internal conflicts for several years, and it continues, that's what it means. "

Since the death of the Sicilian godfather Vito Rizzuto three years ago, confusion seems to prevail among the various clans for the conquest of power. According to Daniel Renaud, none of the leaders of clans currently stands out to be identified as the real leader of the criminal organization.

"We have people who are leaders of influential or important clans who struggle," he says. The SPVM evaluates that it is a fight with two clans. They are opponents of the Rizzuto, to show to the Rizzuto, but also to the Sicilians that their reign is finished. "

On the other hand, Renaud believes that there could be more than two clans in the war within the Mafia. The SPVM would lose a bit of conjecture, since the names of two or three chiefs are currently circulating

"One thing that everyone agrees is that the rule of the Rizzuto and Sicilians is over in Montreal," says Daniel Renaud. It is the end of an era; The Sollecito family who had taken over from Rizzoto no longer had much strength. It is a predominantly Calabrian Italian organized crime that will eventually settle in Montreal. "

Since several chiefs of clans are subject to police surveillance, the situation remains unclear as to which leader is likely to emerge.

According to Daniel Renaud, whoever takes control will have no choice but to deal with other criminal organizations in Quebec, including the Hell's Angels; It was Vito Rizzuto's way of doing things.

"He will not have a choice," says Renaud. The officials of the Sûreté du Québec (SQ) told us recently; The biggest criminal organization now, is the Hell's Angels. The future head of the Mafia will have no choice but to continue to do business with them in order to remain in office. "
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/29/16 04:28 PM

Thanks Hollander.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/29/16 04:49 PM

Originally Posted By: eurodave
Great article Cement!

Daniel seems to always bring great knowledge and perspective.

I wish he would of mentioned those 2-3 leaders lol!

I have a feeling Scoppa is one of them


Yes, I hate when they do not mention names. For who is left in Montreal to assume a leadership role, I agree the Scoppa clan would be one of them, the other might be the Cotroni clan which would include Vanelli,Mirarchi,Cotroni's. The third clan is what puzzles me,there is the DeVito clan ? I can't see the Sicilian clan going away, they seem to have it against the Rizzuto's loyalists only. Will the Sicilian clan be transformed under a new leadership with the help of the Caruana/Cun trera ? Then if we look outside of Montreal, there is the Ontario Ndrangheta that will want to plant their flag in Montreal as well. It will be an interesting year(2017).
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/29/16 06:39 PM

I wonder if the remnants of the Cotroni Di Maulo clan is also lumped with Desjardins Mirarchi. Then you have to consider the old De Vito crew and friends.

Old timers like Mucci and Vanelli could be part of any of those groups or against.

As for the remaining Sicilian loyalists, I think they'll continue to operate much like the cotroni clan did after the Rizzutos took over in the 80s.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/29/16 07:52 PM

But didn't he say they were done before Vito got out of prison too? Or am I thinking of someone else?

I want to see Arcadi, Del Balso and Rizzuto out before I claim victory over the old faction. You just never know these days, especially up there. They will definitely have to "come back" to win this one though.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/29/16 08:38 PM

Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
But didn't he say they were done before Vito got out of prison too? Or am I thinking of someone else?

I want to see Arcadi, Del Balso and Rizzuto out before I claim victory over the old faction. You just never know these days, especially up there. They will definitely have to "come back" to win this one though.


Yes you are correct,the Rizzuto clan received heavy casualties prior to his release & that is why some journalist thought it was the end; but much to everybody's surprise Vito Rizzuto made a comeback. Now that he is deceased I do not see anyone in the Rizzuto clan that could mount a second counter attack unless they receive help from outside sources. Arcadi does not have the same leadership capabilities that Vito had,as matter of fact he made things worse when he was in charge.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/29/16 08:47 PM

Originally Posted By: eurodave
I wonder if the remnants of the Cotroni Di Maulo clan is also lumped with Desjardins Mirarchi. Then you have to consider the old De Vito crew and friends.

Old timers like Mucci and Vanelli could be part of any of those groups or against.

As for the remaining Sicilian loyalists, I think they'll continue to operate much like the cotroni clan did after the Rizzutos took over in the 80s.

I do not know if the Rizzuto clan will be ready to stop fighting. You have the likes of Liborio Cun trera, Leonardo Rizzuto, Calogero Renda, Stefano Solecito, Nicola Spagnolo & more;may want to avenge their father's deaths. There has been too much blood spilled.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/29/16 09:41 PM

You never know. People doubted Leonardo and his comparisons to Michael Corleone (his involvement) up until the day of the project MASTIF-MAGOT busts, then everybody was like "oh wow, no way". He could pull a Michael Corleone forreal and stage a miraculous comeback and save the family name. Highly unlikely, but one can dream.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/30/16 12:50 PM

Another Italian article about the Rizzuto clan.

http://comunicalo.it/2016/12/30/mafia-interrogazione-lumia-al-governo-sul-clan-rizzuto/
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/30/16 01:47 PM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2016/12...ien-hells-angel

Michel "the animal" Smith gets 10,000 dollar/month pension from the Hells Angels.

Friday, 30 December 2016 06:30
Update Friday, 30 December 2016 06:30
ERIC THIBAULT AND FÉLIX SÉGUIN

Le Journal de Montréal and Investigative Office

The Hells Angels have just awarded a golden pension to one of their most influential members in Quebec, who will receive a $ 10,000 monthly pension after 23 years of loyal service.
It is under this lucrative deal that Michel "L'Animal" Smith, a pillar of the South chapter, has decided to withdraw from the motorcycle gang in recent months, according to information obtained by our Investigative Bureau .André "Curly" Sauvageau, an ex-Rock Machine among the most powerful Hells in Montreal, would have been asked to pay him his monthly starting premium, based on receipts from the criminal activities of the club, according to our sources.
" A lot of money "
"It did not matter to many, in the club, to pay him such an amount. But it shows us that the Hells have a lot, a lot of money, "a source familiar with the case said.
Those who previously bore the name of Michel Lajoie-Smith withdrew from the band "with honor" - or in "good standing", in the jargon of the Hells.
Ironically, the 54-year-old ex-motorcyclist received his patches as a member in good standing on December 5, 1993, the same evening as Sylvain Boulanger, who became the "$ 3 million" informer of Operation SharQc and the enemy Juror of the gang.
With the Mafia
According to our information, Smith would have played a leading role in the narcotics market, even though he has never been convicted of drug trafficking.
According to court records Le Journal received a copy, Smith was presumably one of only two Hells at the executive table that the motorcyclists had formed with the Italian mafia to control the cocaine market in the Greater Montreal area, 2008.
According to information from the SQ and the RCMP, Smith led the sales territories west of the territory alongside some mafiosi, including m Raynald Desjardins, detained since 2011 for plotting the murder of the aspirant Godfather Salvatore Montagna.
However, no drug charges were laid against them.
Strategic expansion
The police believe Smith also sponsored the first chapter of the Hells Angels in Ecuador last spring. In March, it was observed in the capital of Quito at the party where the Devils Clowns officially joined the ranks of the Hells.
The establishment of a section in this country is strategic since Ecuador is one of the main places through which the cocaine produced by its neighbor, Colombia, transits, before being exported to North America, according to the CIA.
Smith had made numerous contacts in South America, having spent three years on the run in Panama following Operation SharQC in 2009.
Once extradited to Quebec, "L'Animal", also known as "Gros Mike," did well in court. After three years in pre-trial detention, he found himself guilty of conspiracy to murder on March 17, 2015. His murder charges were dropped and Smith was released from prison.
THEY KEEP AN EYE ON THEIR PENSIONERS
"You can not withdraw from the Hells Angels and not keep in touch with them. Because a certain moment, surely you're going to get yourself killed. Sure and certain."
This is at least the opinion of Dayle Fredette, who was a member of the Hells of the Quebec Chapter for 12 years - and who knew "Gros Mike" Smith while they were both held in Donnacona's maximum security penitentiary - Before returning his jacket and collaborating in Operation SharQc with the police.
Fredette told the Sûreté du Québec (SQ) in 2011 that retired members of the gang "on good terms" must nevertheless "keep in touch with the club all the time".
" A divorce "
Several of them even remained "business partners" with motorcyclists, especially in the narcotics trade, and continued to pay a percentage of their revenues to the band.
The other SharQc informer, Sylvain Boulanger, compared his retirement from the Hells to "a divorce".
"When it does not work, we leave or there are some who are helped to leave. I had to leave. [...] With a criminal organization like this, one must expect everything. You can never be sure of staying alive. And I went to see you to sleep better, "said Boulanger in one of the statements he delivered to the SQ and that Le Journal had access.
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/30/16 03:28 PM

Interesting article Ciment especially about the part that mentions Desjardins and the 2008 territory division between the hells and mafia.

Clearly the hells don't care who's in charge and were willing to work with Vito's rivals as early as 2008.

the same might be true today
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/30/16 03:35 PM

Originally Posted By: Hollander


The Italian prosecutors and media seem to always paint the picture as a Siderno Group vs Rizzuto clan when it comes to the last few years.

The article also mentions 14 Locali, which is quite a lot and if true, no wonder they calabrians have the power and influence to do as they wish.

Can someone correct me if I've read that one locale is made up of at least 30-40 members?

Best part in all of this blood and war is our inability to pinpoint one central figure within the GTA who could be the main culprit.

Also, the trail of blood has 99% been within Montreal
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/30/16 05:02 PM

Originally Posted By: eurodave
Originally Posted By: Hollander


The Italian prosecutors and media seem to always paint the picture as a Siderno Group vs Rizzuto clan when it comes to the last few years.

The article also mentions 14 Locali, which is quite a lot and if true, no wonder they calabrians have the power and influence to do as they wish.

Can someone correct me if I've read that one locale is made up of at least 30-40 members?

Best part in all of this blood and war is our inability to pinpoint one central figure within the GTA who could be the main culprit.

Also, the trail of blood has 99% been within Montreal


The only way I can see the Siderno group may be involved is via the Violi brothers.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/30/16 07:29 PM

Originally Posted By: eurodave
Interesting article Ciment especially about the part that mentions Desjardins and the 2008 territory division between the hells and mafia.

Clearly the hells don't care who's in charge and were willing to work with Vito's rivals as early as 2008.

the same might be true today


Most of the rivals if not all,had good relations with the HA. Desjardins had good relations with the exception of one Mom Boucher who was planning a hit from prison on him. Someone must of paid good money for this.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/30/16 07:32 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
Yes you are correct,the Rizzuto clan received heavy casualties prior to his release & that is why some journalist thought it was the end; but much to everybody's surprise Vito Rizzuto made a comeback. Now that he is deceased I do not see anyone in the Rizzuto clan that could mount a second counter attack unless they receive help from outside sources. Arcadi does not have the same leadership capabilities that Vito had,as matter of fact he made things worse when he was in charge.


That's my point as well. I just think it's "too early" to post the Rizzuto's obituary.

Originally Posted By: Ciment
I do not know if the Rizzuto clan will be ready to stop fighting. You have the likes of Liborio Cun trera, Leonardo Rizzuto, Calogero Renda, Stefano Solecito, Nicola Spagnolo & more;may want to avenge their father's deaths. There has been too much blood spilled.


Agreed and that's why I think they will continue the fighting. I just don't see all of them laying down.

Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
You never know. People doubted Leonardo and his comparisons to Michael Corleone (his involvement) up until the day of the project MASTIF-MAGOT busts, then everybody was like "oh wow, no way". He could pull a Michael Corleone forreal and stage a miraculous comeback and save the family name. Highly unlikely, but one can dream.


I'm still eating crow on that one. I knew he was "involved" but I never thought he was in it deep enough to be the boss (or share it) at least to the point that the others would follow without trying to kill him.

Like you say though and I agree on, their comeback chances are against them but I'm not counting them out until they are dead or I am one lol
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/30/16 07:48 PM

Originally Posted By: eurodave
Originally Posted By: Hollander


The Italian prosecutors and media seem to always paint the picture as a Siderno Group vs Rizzuto clan when it comes to the last few years.

The article also mentions 14 Locali, which is quite a lot and if true, no wonder they calabrians have the power and influence to do as they wish.

Can someone correct me if I've read that one locale is made up of at least 30-40 members?

Best part in all of this blood and war is our inability to pinpoint one central figure within the GTA who could be the main culprit.

Also, the trail of blood has 99% been within Montreal


The Italian prosecutors seem to be well informed compared to the Canadian RCMP.It was the Italian authorities that informed the RCMP that there were 9 locale in Toronto. Back then most medias & authorities reported there were 3 or 4. Now it seems they have grown to 14 in Canada. It would be interesting to know where the remaining 5 are located. Maybe they established some locale in Montreal ?
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/30/16 08:52 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: eurodave
Originally Posted By: Hollander


The Italian prosecutors and media seem to always paint the picture as a Siderno Group vs Rizzuto clan when it comes to the last few years.

The article also mentions 14 Locali, which is quite a lot and if true, no wonder they calabrians have the power and influence to do as they wish.

Can someone correct me if I've read that one locale is made up of at least 30-40 members?

Best part in all of this blood and war is our inability to pinpoint one central figure within the GTA who could be the main culprit.

Also, the trail of blood has 99% been within Montreal


The Italian prosecutors seem to be well informed compared to the Canadian RCMP.It was the Italian authorities that informed the RCMP that there were 9 locale in Toronto. Back then most medias & authorities reported there were 3 or 4. Now it seems they have grown to 14 in Canada. It would be interesting to know where the remaining 5 are located. Maybe they established some locale in Montreal ?


14 x 20 members equals almost 300 Ndranghetisti...quite a bit if you ask me.
Posted By: cdn_wiseguy

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/30/16 09:37 PM

A lot of interesting posts right now of the current situation and who's on who's side. Definitely reminds me of the 2009-2013 portion of the war when nobody really knew who was on what side. It later turned out that there were 2 groups against the Rizzuto's which sounds a lot like what we are seeing again now.

I saw Mucci's name mentioned a few posts ago with regards to playing a part with the old Cotroni group. It's interesting that his name was rarely mentioned in the bloody part of the war, but that one of his closest allies Moreno Gallo sided with the Montagna group, which of course was opposite of the old Cotroni group. I'm confused as to how he would be described... I've read where he was a part of the Cotroni clan, I've also heard that he was a lietenant of Moreno Gallo, or would he have his own clan?

It's been said before, but Arcadi and Del Baso could hold the balance of power. Not to say they would be able to take over, but they could make a deal with one of the groups to put one group solidly in front.

Does anyone have information on the following?
- Are Stefano Sollecito's 2 brothers involved in the mafia?
- Are Pietrantonio or the Arcuri brothers back involved? They were big pieces of Montagna's group
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/30/16 11:18 PM

Originally Posted By: cdn_wiseguy
A lot of interesting posts right now of the current situation and who's on who's side. Definitely reminds me of the 2009-2013 portion of the war when nobody really knew who was on what side. It later turned out that there were 2 groups against the Rizzuto's which sounds a lot like what we are seeing again now.

I saw Mucci's name mentioned a few posts ago with regards to playing a part with the old Cotroni group. It's interesting that his name was rarely mentioned in the bloody part of the war, but that one of his closest allies Moreno Gallo sided with the Montagna group, which of course was opposite of the old Cotroni group. I'm confused as to how he would be described... I've read where he was a part of the Cotroni clan, I've also heard that he was a lietenant of Moreno Gallo, or would he have his own clan?

It's been said before, but Arcadi and Del Baso could hold the balance of power. Not to say they would be able to take over, but they could make a deal with one of the groups to put one group solidly in front.

Does anyone have information on the following?
- Are Stefano Sollecito's 2 brothers involved in the mafia?
- Are Pietrantonio or the Arcuri brothers back involved? They were big pieces of Montagna's group

I believe Stefano's brothers are involved. There was mention of Mario when they seized guns and license plates and Giuseppe is mentioned in Mafia Inc.
I haven't heard much of the Arcuri's, they are laying low. Especially for having betrayed both the Rizzuto's and their rivals.
With regards with the old Cotroni clan it is hard to follow who is on what side because some jumped ship to Montagna, others remained with the Rizzuto clan and others became rivals to Rizzuto. Example, we found out about Gallo supporting Montagna because of the wiretaps. Callocchia stayed with Rizzuto, Desjardins decided to fight the Rizzuto's, the ones that remained neutral got whacked.So far I haven't read anything in the news that would identify what side Mucci and Vanelli are on. They both had an attempt on their lives.
In this Montreal feud you have Sicilians betraying Sicilians and Calabrese betraying Calabrese.



Posted By: cdn_wiseguy

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/30/16 11:35 PM

Thanks Ciment. I didn't realize there was an attempt on Mucci and Vanelli. How long ago was that?

Do you know any names that affiliate with Scoppa's group?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/31/16 12:07 AM

Originally Posted By: cdn_wiseguy
Thanks Ciment. I didn't realize there was an attempt on Mucci and Vanelli. How long ago was that?

Do you know any names that affiliate with Scoppa's group?


Off the top of my head Andrew,Salvatore Scoppa: Tony Teoli, Bruno Romanelli,Mike Perna, Steve Bertrand; they have a very large crew. The Scoppa clan and Devito clan are associates.

Mucci was Dec. 2007
Vanelli was June 2,2016; they killed Angelo D'Onofrio by mistake
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/31/16 12:31 AM

Originally Posted By: cdn_wiseguy
Thanks Ciment. I didn't realize there was an attempt on Mucci and Vanelli. How long ago was that?

Do you know any names that affiliate with Scoppa's group?


http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...ucci-libere.php

This article makes mention of Mucci's attempt on his life.
Posted By: cdn_wiseguy

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/31/16 12:50 AM

Thanks again Ciment. A couple interesting things from the article. Renaud mentions that Mucci is considered to run his own cell. The other thing, was that the attempt on his life was in 2007, which was prior to the instability.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/31/16 01:07 AM

Vito was arrested in 2004. The instability started 2005.
Yes, Mucci has his own crew as mentioned in the news article.
Posted By: BronaZora

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/31/16 01:44 AM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: eurodave
Originally Posted By: Hollander


The Italian prosecutors and media seem to always paint the picture as a Siderno Group vs Rizzuto clan when it comes to the last few years.

The article also mentions 14 Locali, which is quite a lot and if true, no wonder they calabrians have the power and influence to do as they wish.

Can someone correct me if I've read that one locale is made up of at least 30-40 members?

Best part in all of this blood and war is our inability to pinpoint one central figure within the GTA who could be the main culprit.

Also, the trail of blood has 99% been within Montreal


The Italian prosecutors seem to be well informed compared to the Canadian RCMP.It was the Italian authorities that informed the RCMP that there were 9 locale in Toronto. Back then most medias & authorities reported there were 3 or 4. Now it seems they have grown to 14 in Canada. It would be interesting to know where the remaining 5 are located. Maybe they established some locale in Montreal ?


Can someone explain to me how so many locales can exist in one area? As I understand it, a 'ndrine is basically a family, this family can have multiple cells or crews operating in different parts of the world, if there are other 'ndrine cells operating in the same area, they form a locale together, does that sound about right? If so, how can there be 14 locales in the GTA? That's like an infestation.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/31/16 01:53 AM

The troubles for the Rizzuto clan didnt start immediately after Vito was put away. It started after Operation Coliseé, which was in 2006, where most of those guys were put away. And even then, the real instablity within the Montreal Mafia started with the death of Nicolo Jr. in '09. Dont know the reason why Mucci was shot in '07, couldve been involved, but cdn_wiseguy is right, Mucci's attempt was before all the real troubles began.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/31/16 02:20 AM

During the Charbonneau hearings in 2012 someone said Sicilian mobsters in Montreal used to make fun of Calabrian mobsters because of all their strange rules and slang.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/31/16 02:34 AM

Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
The troubles for the Rizzuto clan didnt start immediately after Vito was put away. It started after Operation Coliseé, which was in 2006, where most of those guys were put away. And even then, the real instablity within the Montreal Mafia started with the death of Nicolo Jr. in '09. Dont know the reason why Mucci was shot in '07, couldve been involved, but cdn_wiseguy is right, Mucci's attempt was before all the real troubles began.


Your facts are dead wrong. The instability started with the D'amico's (2005) with the kidnappings. It then progressed with the help of Sergio Piccirilli(2006) he was planning to kill N.Rizzuto but never got the green light from Toronto, and then Devito got into the picture, followed by Scoppa. D.Macri gets shot in 2006. Five from the Rizzuto clan get killed in 2007. This is the definition of instability in my books.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/31/16 02:38 AM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
The troubles for the Rizzuto clan didnt start immediately after Vito was put away. It started after Operation Coliseé, which was in 2006, where most of those guys were put away. And even then, the real instablity within the Montreal Mafia started with the death of Nicolo Jr. in '09. Dont know the reason why Mucci was shot in '07, couldve been involved, but cdn_wiseguy is right, Mucci's attempt was before all the real troubles began.


Your facts are dead wrong. The instability started with the D'amico's (2005) with the kidnappings. It then progressed with the help of Sergio Piccirilli(2006) he was planning to kill N.Rizzuto but never got the green light from Toronto, and then Devito got into the picture, followed by Scoppa. D.Macri gets shot in 2006. Five from the Rizzuto clan get killed in 2007. This is the definition of instability in my books.


I think it started with Johnny Bertolo (2005) who was aligned with Desjardins.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/31/16 02:47 AM

Originally Posted By: Hollander
Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
The troubles for the Rizzuto clan didnt start immediately after Vito was put away. It started after Operation Coliseé, which was in 2006, where most of those guys were put away. And even then, the real instablity within the Montreal Mafia started with the death of Nicolo Jr. in '09. Dont know the reason why Mucci was shot in '07, couldve been involved, but cdn_wiseguy is right, Mucci's attempt was before all the real troubles began.


Your facts are dead wrong. The instability started with the D'amico's (2005) with the kidnappings. It then progressed with the help of Sergio Piccirilli(2006) he was planning to kill N.Rizzuto but never got the green light from Toronto, and then Devito got into the picture, followed by Scoppa. D.Macri gets shot in 2006. Five from the Rizzuto clan get killed in 2007. This is the definition of instability in my books.


I think it started with Johnny Bertolo (2005) who was aligned with Desjardins.


Correct Hollander, there was also Mike Lapolla that got killed in Mar. 2005 & Bertolo was in Aug.2005. That is why I said it started in 2005.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/31/16 02:55 AM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: Hollander
Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
The troubles for the Rizzuto clan didnt start immediately after Vito was put away. It started after Operation Coliseé, which was in 2006, where most of those guys were put away. And even then, the real instablity within the Montreal Mafia started with the death of Nicolo Jr. in '09. Dont know the reason why Mucci was shot in '07, couldve been involved, but cdn_wiseguy is right, Mucci's attempt was before all the real troubles began.


Your facts are dead wrong. The instability started with the D'amico's (2005) with the kidnappings. It then progressed with the help of Sergio Piccirilli(2006) he was planning to kill N.Rizzuto but never got the green light from Toronto, and then Devito got into the picture, followed by Scoppa. D.Macri gets shot in 2006. Five from the Rizzuto clan get killed in 2007. This is the definition of instability in my books.


I think it started with Johnny Bertolo (2005) who was aligned with Desjardins.


Correct Hollander, there was also Mike Lapolla that got killed in Mar. 2005 & Bertolo was in Aug.2005. That is why I said it started in 2005.


I forgot that one that made the Rizzutos pretty nervous about the Haitians.
Posted By: cdn_wiseguy

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/31/16 03:19 AM

I think you guys are both right in what you are saying. There was a lot of instability after vito went away. But I don't think the direct attacks on the rizzuto's were right away.

I may be wrong, but there was always a lot of animosity from groups outside of vito's inner circle. Those on the outside just had to go along with whatever vito said. When vito went away a lot of the animosity that always existed started to show. It was the inability of the leadership group to extinguish those fires that demonstrated an opening. It's like when the parents are away, the kids test the baby sitter. If the baby sitter can't keep control, then all hell breaks loose. Nick sr wasn't very diplomatic and arcadi/del baso/giardano tried to deal with things (like granby) through force. When other groups saw the lack of ability on behalf of the Rizzuto leadership, they saw this as an opportunity. Then to compound the problem, project colisee happened. So it was wide open for the opposition groups.

I always thought the direct attack against the rizzuto's for actual control over montreal as a whole came when del peschio was murdered.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/31/16 03:19 AM

Here is more info:
Feb. 2005 Domenico Cordelone kidnapped
Apr.2005 T.Magi kidnapped
May Leonardo D’angelo kidnapped (nephew of Vince Spagnolo wife)
May 2005 F.Martorano kidnapped
Oct. 2005 N.Varcalli kdinapped
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/31/16 03:45 AM

I for one thunk problems rooted way before that in 2000 as Vito tried to push and consolidate his power becoming a sort of boss of all bosses by taking over Ontario.

It didn't take much for the siderno group to set him straight by killing pane pinto, his main man in Toronto. That push into Ontario might have given the siderno boys Extra reasons to find unhappy campers in Montreal and unite to push the Rizzuto family out. The bigger you are, the larger the target on your back is
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/31/16 03:54 AM

Originally Posted By: eurodave
Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: eurodave
Originally Posted By: Hollander


The Italian prosecutors and media seem to always paint the picture as a Siderno Group vs Rizzuto clan when it comes to the last few years.

The article also mentions 14 Locali, which is quite a lot and if true, no wonder they calabrians have the power and influence to do as they wish.

Can someone correct me if I've read that one locale is made up of at least 30-40 members?

Best part in all of this blood and war is our inability to pinpoint one central figure within the GTA who could be the main culprit.

Also, the trail of blood has 99% been within Montreal


The Italian prosecutors seem to be well informed compared to the Canadian RCMP.It was the Italian authorities that informed the RCMP that there were 9 locale in Toronto. Back then most medias & authorities reported there were 3 or 4. Now it seems they have grown to 14 in Canada. It would be interesting to know where the remaining 5 are located. Maybe they established some locale in Montreal ?


14 x 20 members equals almost 300 Ndranghetisti...quite a bit if you ask me.


A few years ago Italian authorities stated that there were approximately 40 members of the 'ndrangheta operating in Ontario divided among 9 clans. If there are now 14 as you say that number would probably have gone up by a few dozen. 300 members seems like an exaggeration just as some people were saying years ago that the Rizzutos had 300 made members while they had no more than 20 (Bonanno) and perhaps another dozen or so members of the Sicilian Mafia. However the Rizzutos did have hundreds of associates, a lange chunk of that comprising of footsoldiers divided among several factions but ultimately answerable to the Rizzutos. I think the Rizzutos total manpower at their height was much bigger than the manpower of the Ontario Calabrians which is why Rizzuto was able to expand into Ontario without much resistance. Times have definitely changed though, no doubt about it.

Nevertheless, I still feel like the power of the 'ndrangheta in Canada is overestimated.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/31/16 04:11 AM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: cdn_wiseguy
A lot of interesting posts right now of the current situation and who's on who's side. Definitely reminds me of the 2009-2013 portion of the war when nobody really knew who was on what side. It later turned out that there were 2 groups against the Rizzuto's which sounds a lot like what we are seeing again now.

I saw Mucci's name mentioned a few posts ago with regards to playing a part with the old Cotroni group. It's interesting that his name was rarely mentioned in the bloody part of the war, but that one of his closest allies Moreno Gallo sided with the Montagna group, which of course was opposite of the old Cotroni group. I'm confused as to how he would be described... I've read where he was a part of the Cotroni clan, I've also heard that he was a lietenant of Moreno Gallo, or would he have his own clan?

It's been said before, but Arcadi and Del Baso could hold the balance of power. Not to say they would be able to take over, but they could make a deal with one of the groups to put one group solidly in front.

Does anyone have information on the following?
- Are Stefano Sollecito's 2 brothers involved in the mafia?
- Are Pietrantonio or the Arcuri brothers back involved? They were big pieces of Montagna's group

I believe Stefano's brothers are involved. There was mention of Mario when they seized guns and license plates and Giuseppe is mentioned in Mafia Inc.
I haven't heard much of the Arcuri's, they are laying low. Especially for having betrayed both the Rizzuto's and their rivals.
With regards with the old Cotroni clan it is hard to follow who is on what side because some jumped ship to Montagna, others remained with the Rizzuto clan and others became rivals to Rizzuto. Example, we found out about Gallo supporting Montagna because of the wiretaps. Callocchia stayed with Rizzuto, Desjardins decided to fight the Rizzuto's, the ones that remained neutral got whacked.So far I haven't read anything in the news that would identify what side Mucci and Vanelli are on. They both had an attempt on their lives.
In this Montreal feud you have Sicilians betraying Sicilians and Calabrese betraying Calabrese.





I remember an article that stated that Callocchia was collecting payments on behalf of Montagna, but may have misinterpreted that.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/31/16 04:11 AM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/dossie...lan-rizzuto.php

Yes, I agree that the root problems started prior to 2000 because of the push into Ontario.
What I was talking about in my earlier posts was when the wheels were in motion in causing instability in Montreal; which began after Vito's arrest.In the above article the Violi's were having meetigs with Piccirilli back in 2005 and further down in the article Piccirilli wanted the green from Toronto to kill N.Rizzuto sr.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/31/16 04:19 AM

I think the 'ndrangheta simply preyed on the turmoil in Montreal, playing a divide and conquer game and indiscreetly making alliances with Rizzuto enemies. Then when Rizzuto came back they took a low profile and now they are preying on the chaos again and this time it seems they have a better change of succeeding.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/31/16 04:26 AM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...ns-un-piege.php

In earlier news articles the journalist did report Callocchia was a rival but later articles mention that he was in the Rizzuto camp and was also seen by his side. The above article mentions that.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/31/16 04:27 AM

Good summary.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/31/16 04:53 AM

Originally Posted By: eurodave
I for one thunk problems rooted way before that in 2000 as Vito tried to push and consolidate his power becoming a sort of boss of all bosses by taking over Ontario.

It didn't take much for the siderno group to set him straight by killing pane pinto, his main man in Toronto. That push into Ontario might have given the siderno boys Extra reasons to find unhappy campers in Montreal and unite to push the Rizzuto family out. The bigger you are, the larger the target on your back is


One of the two Ndrangheta members that was killed in Toronto by Panepinto is named Antonio Oppedisano. Domenico Oppedisano was appointed capo crimine in 2009, I always wondered if they were related. If they were it may share more light in the strained relationship between Montreal & Toronto.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/31/16 06:30 AM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: eurodave
I for one thunk problems rooted way before that in 2000 as Vito tried to push and consolidate his power becoming a sort of boss of all bosses by taking over Ontario.

It didn't take much for the siderno group to set him straight by killing pane pinto, his main man in Toronto. That push into Ontario might have given the siderno boys Extra reasons to find unhappy campers in Montreal and unite to push the Rizzuto family out. The bigger you are, the larger the target on your back is


One of the two Ndrangheta members that was killed in Toronto by Panepinto is named Antonio Oppedisano. Domenico Oppedisano was appointed capo crimine in 2009, I always wondered if they were related. If they were it may share more light in the strained relationship between Montreal & Toronto.


^^^^
Antonio Oppedisano was not related to Domenico of Rosarno.

Vito Rizzuto and his father had allies in Ontario going back to the 1960s. Panepinto, who was unlikely even made, was not the most important ally of the Montreal Mafia in the year 2000. Nino Cammalleri (the uncle of Vito's wife, Giovanna), Peter Scarcella, Giacinto Arcuri, Frank Campoli (the husband of Giovanna's first cousin),  Nicola Genua,  and the Caruana-Cun treras were the far more important Sicilian associates in the GTA.

Despite what many mobwatchers think, the Commisso brothers in Toronto facilitated the expansion of the Montreal Mafia in Ontario in the late 1990s (see The Sixth Family book; doesn't matter which edition). A member of Nino Cammalleri's family married into the Commisso brothers' family in 2005/2006.

In 2001, we know that Vito chaired a meeting in the GTA in which he announced that he wanted to amalgamate Italian mafia groups in Ontario and Quebec. To think he could amalgamate all such groups would be absurd, but all of them at the meeting got on board. Members of the GTA Siderno Group were present at the meeting. We found out only last year that individuals from New York's Gambino Family were also at the meeting.

After Vito was jailed in 2004, the GTA Siderno Group's Carmelo Bruzzese continued to have contact with Francesco Arcadi for more than a year (may have been up to 16 months--I'll check my computer in the morning), as Bruzzese was instrumental in helping the Montreal Mafia in the corruption of public-works contracts in Italy.

Back in 2008, mostly Italian-language articles were published about the Operazione Orso Bruno investigation in Italy that targeted the Montreal Mafia leadership. Bruzzese, because of his close association with Vito Rizzuto, was charged with being a member of Cosa Nostra. On another forum, now essentially defunct, where board poster Hollander and I were members, he posted the odd English-language article about the investigation and Bruzzese's being arrested and charged. Back then, Hollander and I didn't know who Bruzzese was. Nor did we know of the criminal collaboration between the GTA Siderno Group, the Montreal Mafia, the GTA Sicilian drug traffickers like Genua and son Ignazio, and the Commisso clan in Calabria--all of this was revealed after the July 2010 culmination of the antindrangheta operation in Calabria, as the four-volume arrest warrants published two months later mentioned all the names and all the ties.

Past criminal ties--and even present criminal ties or family ties--do not  guarantee future collaboration. The Commisso brothers forged very close ties with Nick Rizzuto Sr. in the 1970s; the brothers felt no loyalty to Giacomo Luppino and the Violis then and later in the 1980s, 1990s, and 2000s, just as they felt no loyalty to Domenico Racco, whose 1983 murder by the Musitanos could easily have been prevented by the Commissos' intervention. Scarcella and Rocco Remo Commisso had been close ever since the Commissos decided not to kill Scarcella in the early 1980s. The Charbonneau Commission revealed that Domenico Arcuri Jr. had very tight ties to the Cammalleri clan in the GTA, but did that stop the Arcuri brothers from allying themselves with Montagna and Desjardins? The intermarriage between the Commissos and the Cammalleris likewise seems to have had no real effect on the decision of certain GTA Siderno Group members to exploit opportunities presented by the mob war in Montreal.

If we look again at all the events and incidents involving the Italian underworlds of Toronto and Montreal between 2000 and 2006--maybe even as late as 2008--the newer information and evidence makes you see that for every criminal venture that went well, some other venture went horribly wrong. Or there was a murder such as that of senior GTA Siderno Group figure Vincenzo Raco, whose killing may have been ordered by Arcadi.

There is even a possibility that the murders and attempted murders at the Moka cafe in Woodbridge in 2015 are a result of renewed tension between certain GTA Siderno Group members and the Montreal Mafia--just reread one of the articles published at the time that named one of the two previous owners of the cafe.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/31/16 12:05 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
The troubles for the Rizzuto clan didnt start immediately after Vito was put away. It started after Operation Coliseé, which was in 2006, where most of those guys were put away. And even then, the real instablity within the Montreal Mafia started with the death of Nicolo Jr. in '09. Dont know the reason why Mucci was shot in '07, couldve been involved, but cdn_wiseguy is right, Mucci's attempt was before all the real troubles began.


Your facts are dead wrong. The instability started with the D'amico's (2005) with the kidnappings. It then progressed with the help of Sergio Piccirilli(2006) he was planning to kill N.Rizzuto but never got the green light from Toronto, and then Devito got into the picture, followed by Scoppa. D.Macri gets shot in 2006. Five from the Rizzuto clan get killed in 2007. This is the definition of instability in my books.


Well , for one , i didnt state any "facts", just what I thought. And there's clearly a difference of opinion when it comes to what "instabilty against the Rizzutos" mean. I'm talking about a power grab. Third, according to Lee Lamothe & The Sixth Family, the D'Amico kidnappings wasnt that, if im thinking right and thats the one where they built holding cells in their basement for Arcadi & someone else. That was over money Arcadi supposedly owed, and he referred to the D'Amicos as "cuckolds" and basically refused to pay them back. Outside of visiting the Cosenza social club, the "kidnappings" never got off the ground, again, if im remembering correctly, and things came to a halt, once all men of the Rizzuto leadership, were arrested in the Colisee bust, I will say that the D'Amico stuff was enough for Del Balso and Giordano, two well known Arcadi loyalists, to request armored vehicles and guns. Now we get into post '06, which is even when I said the instability started, your dates merely cosign that. Piccirilli never got the okay from Toronto because the Rizzuto group were still in power and working with Toronto 'Ndrines, De Vito supposedly got involved after the murder of Gervasi, who was angry at the Rizzutos over the death of his son, supposedly. Colisee happens and De Vito goes on the run, he never got a chance to act against the Rizzutos, to the best of my knowledge and he paid for his act of disloyalty. And that De Vito doc that aired in Canada about a year ago, alluded to De Vito being the one who killed Gervasi, as bullets from his gun passed through Gervasi's body, and the fatal shot was from a bullet that came from De Vitos firearm and that the order came from the Rizzuto leadership. He was also acknowledged in the Rizzuto owned Loreto funeral home, in a plaque of sorts honoring their dead. So theirs no real indication whom side De Vito was really on. Hard to call that instability against the Rizzutos to me. I havent seen anything that mentions the Scoppas acting against The Rizzutos either, physically during that timeframe, only thing I did see mentioned was the Scoppa drug pipeline. I didnt see anything about the Scoppas warring for leadership against them , again, during that timeframe. I stated time and time over why I first suspected them to be involved in the recent bloodshed, however. Maybe you can point me in the direction of some stuff which supports what youre saying in this post, in reference to The Scoppa's. I dont know enough about the Macri thing to speak on it, other than that it was also a part of the D'Amico trouble. But again, I already acknowledged '06 as the possible beginning. As cdn_wiseguy mentioned before, there was always instability against these various groups, however, not all of the animosity was always directly aimed at The Rizzutos.


Good analysis Anti, I always appreciate what you have to say on these matters.
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/31/16 12:34 PM

I appreciate your knowledge and post anti but whatever may have happened 10 or 20 years ago and the relationships that were in place then are surely not static.

Just because the siderno boys supposedly got along then and had to tolerate Vito doesn't mean they continued to do so.

That meeting in 2001 was in part a power grab to consolidate operations however the criminal landscape was different then both here, in italy and the Toronto. Think the ndrangheta expansion in the last 15 years alone

Some have suggested that Montreal was a formidable family and extremely powerful...then how can you explain that it took only 2 years for the police force put everyone beyind bars and less than two years for rivals to kill Nick, Nicolo, Agostino, Paolo and friends
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/31/16 12:48 PM

If anyone knows what they're talking about, its Anti. He's never provided any reason to doubt his post. He's arguably the most knowledgeable person around this forum when it comes to Canadian Organized Crime.


And everything started After Vito was imprisoned and far away from Canada. Clearly when he was on the street, the relationships he made with other crime groups and their bosses were greatly valued by enemies and allies alike. Quite obviously, nobody had the leadership skills he had to maintain those relationships. Thats why it was "so easy" to bring them down.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/31/16 12:51 PM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black

Nevertheless, I still feel like the power of the 'ndrangheta in Canada is overestimated.


Magistrate Nicola Gratteri, expert on the Siderno Group, said there are hundreds of 'ndranghetisti in Canada, I believe thats true. They do have the numbers because unlike Cosa Nostra they use blood ties to make guys.
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/31/16 01:01 PM

Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
If anyone knows what they're talking about, its Anti. He's never provided any reason to doubt his post. He's arguably the most knowledgeable person around this forum when it comes to Canadian Organized Crime.


And everything started After Vito was imprisoned and far away from Canada. Clearly when he was on the street, the relationships he made with other crime groups and their bosses were greatly valued by enemies and allies alike. Quite obviously, nobody had the leadership skills he had to maintain those relationships. Thats why it was "so easy" to bring them down.


Again if he was so respected and feared...would you dare kill his son and then his father in front of his daughter and mother?

You're only good to people until you're not anymore.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/31/16 01:24 PM

Originally Posted By: antimafia

Back in 2008, mostly Italian-language articles were published about the Operazione Orso Bruno investigation in Italy that targeted the Montreal Mafia leadership. Bruzzese, because of his close association with Vito Rizzuto, was charged with being a member of Cosa Nostra. On another forum, now essentially defunct, where board poster Hollander and I were members, he posted the odd English-language article about the investigation and Bruzzese's being arrested and charged. Back then, Hollander and I didn't know who Bruzzese was. Nor did we know of the criminal collaboration between the GTA Siderno Group, the Montreal Mafia, the GTA Sicilian drug traffickers like Genua and son Ignazio, and the Commisso clan in Calabria--all of this was revealed after the July 2010 culmination of the antindrangheta operation in Calabria, as the four-volume arrest warrants published two months later mentioned all the names and all the ties.


That also why I said they are all Uomini d'Onore it's not only business relations but also Mafia politics. The wedding anniversary of Paolo C untrera was a good example top guys from both societies were present.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/31/16 02:56 PM

Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
If anyone knows what they're talking about, its Anti. He's never provided any reason to doubt his post. He's arguably the most knowledgeable person around this forum when it comes to Canadian Organized Crime.


And everything started After Vito was imprisoned and far away from Canada. Clearly when he was on the street, the relationships he made with other crime groups and their bosses were greatly valued by enemies and allies alike. Quite obviously, nobody had the leadership skills he had to maintain those relationships. Thats why it was "so easy" to bring them down.


Anti is not the issue here and I am quite sure he is well respected on this forum and I value his opinion.
I seen others comment about Canadian Organized crime on this forum that are also very knowledgeable.So I don't see your point about making such blanket statements.
I for one and probably others on this forum,have been following Canadian organized crime since the late sixties. Knowledge is not only acquired by books or what you read on the internet. Some of us have also life experiences,friends and/or families in the know or have grown up in some of those neighborhoods.
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/31/16 03:15 PM

Ciment's got a valid point......some members on the forum have grown up around people, areas, countries and neighbourhoods where these criminals and turf wars take place.

By consequence, people talk, you hear stories and trends that for whatever reason journalists don't have access too.

How many times did they mess up the origins of gangsters, thats just one example.

Although I respect the depth and knowledge of antimafias post, the past is exactly that, the past.

Present day circumstances are not what it was in 95 or even 4 years ago.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/31/16 04:47 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...ns-un-piege.php

In earlier news articles the journalist did report Callocchia was a rival but later articles mention that he was in the Rizzuto camp and was also seen by his side. The above article mentions that.


I guess he just liked switching sides. Perhaps he was allowed back into the Rizzuto fold because he wasn't directly involved in the killings. It didn't serve any purpose for Rizzuto to kill anyone who was even remotely involved in the coup, just its leaders and some of the hitters. But at the end of the day business needed to continue and Callochia proved useful.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/31/16 05:49 PM

Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
He was also acknowledged in the Rizzuto owned Loreto funeral home, in a plaque of sorts honoring their dead. So theirs no real indication whom side De Vito was really on.


It is pretty evident that De Vito was a Rizzuto enemy. A documentary about him revealed that he aligned with Montagna and was believed to be behind the disappearance of Renda and the murder of [BadWord].

Originally Posted By: eurodave
Some have suggested that Montreal was a formidable family and extremely powerful...then how can you explain that it took only 2 years for the police force put everyone beyind bars and less than two years for rivals to kill Nick, Nicolo, Agostino, Paolo and friends


The Montreal Mafia as a whole was quite formidable but it was a loose federation of cells that Vito hold together. Under his leadership it mimicked a streamlined organization. But history showed that his family had silent enemies, and when he was sent away his successors weren't able to enact the same kind of authority over all the cells and on top of that messed things up.
Posted By: cdn_wiseguy

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/31/16 06:52 PM

Sonny,

I agree with you that De Vito probably was against the Rizutto's even though there has been some doubt cast on this. However, I've never seen anything suggesting he was aligned with Montagna. I feel like I remember the things I've read suggesting he was working more with Desjardins/Mirarchi.

I'd be interested to see your sources on his alignment with Montagna. I'd also like to see the sources that believe he was behind the Renda disappearance and the Agostino hit... I need something to do for the next couple of days smile
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/31/16 07:20 PM

But like said, it is still very interesting that De Vito's name was on the plaque in the Loreto. I think that is the true factor that confuses everyone on the subject of him being a Rizzuto rival. I'm on the boat that he WAS against Vito, but then again why would his name be on there?
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/31/16 07:54 PM

Originally Posted By: cdn_wiseguy
Sonny,

I agree with you that De Vito probably was against the Rizutto's even though there has been some doubt cast on this. However, I've never seen anything suggesting he was aligned with Montagna. I feel like I remember the things I've read suggesting he was working more with Desjardins/Mirarchi.

I'd be interested to see your sources on his alignment with Montagna. I'd also like to see the sources that believe he was behind the Renda disappearance and the Agostino hit... I need something to do for the next couple of days smile


Here's the original article:
http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2015/11/29/le-caid-a-filme-sa-cavale

Youtube link with English translation:
https://youtu.be/LPifwXv7eZ0
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/31/16 08:20 PM

Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
But like said, it is still very interesting that De Vito's name was on the plaque in the Loreto. I think that is the true factor that confuses everyone on the subject of him being a Rizzuto rival. I'm on the boat that he WAS against Vito, but then again why would his name be on there?


I think it was antimafia who said that he had reason to believe that Rizzuto and De Vito had made amends before the latter's death. I agree that it doesn't seem to make sense, being that there's clear evidence that De Vito conspired against the Rizzutos yet has his name on that plaque. Perhaps he was killed by the Rizzuto group nevertheless or perhaps he was killed by his former allies for making amends with Vito, who knows.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/01/17 03:07 AM

After Vito's release from Colorado De Vito's men Facchina and Scuderi were killed.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/01/17 03:29 AM

If Arcadi is already in a halfway house, he can probably send "pizzini" to his men.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/01/17 04:23 AM

Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
But like said, it is still very interesting that De Vito's name was on the plaque in the Loreto. I think that is the true factor that confuses everyone on the subject of him being a Rizzuto rival. I'm on the boat that he WAS against Vito, but then again why would his name be on there?





Exactly. And like I said, the De Vito doc from last year, mentions how Gervasi's body contained bullets from a firearm which matched to one De Vito had in his possession, which I believe they said was the gun he had with him in that apartment complex he had in Toronto where he was making those videos from. The documentary also said clear as day that De Vito himself was responsible for the Gervasi hit. Which led the documentary to question if he was acting on Rizzuto leadership orders. An article in reference to the doc says specifically "according to our sources, De Vito even murdered his own boss, Paolo Gervasi in 2004", it then went on to talk about how the bullets from De Vitos gun, passed through Gervasi and got lodged into the body of De Vito's accomplice, Carmelo Tommassino. This was also the same doc that claimed that De Vito sided with Montagna. It doesnt make sense, and I still don't believe its as clear cut as some would like to make it out to be, whose side De Vito may have really been on, from everything I've learned so far. Before Business Or Blood mentioning the Loreto plaque and the De Vito doc from a year ago, I was certain that De Vito did turn on the Rizzuto group. However since then, I simply dont know, and because of the doc and the Loreto plaque and the many relationships we still speculate about to this day, in regards to the Canadian underworld, I'm simply not willing to jump to such a conclusion, as to if he was definitely against the Rizzutos or if he wasn't, thats all.


And Ciment, I could be wrong, but isnt Anti from Canada as well, therefore what you said about people hearing things and researching the Canadian Mafia since the 60s, apply to him as well? Except aside from just word of mouth, he also uses actual RCMP documentation and other forms of documentation to make his posts. And I never doubted or disputed you "following Canadian OC dating back to the 60s", but you aren't the only one, and many of the discussion points, you, Sonny, myself, Cabrini, Euro, Dixie, etc, and theories and news we debate about has come from Anti and his posts, just throwing that out there. And yes, Eurodave, I understand that his post dealt with the past however its still within the discusssion as it goes to show despite what some here believe, Vito did still have allies in Toronto, Ontario which kept these groups from acting out directly against him and his leadership. And as already explained, The Rizzutos were a formidable force, thats undeniable, but as myself and others have said, his leadership skills were obviously one in a million. And his successors simply werent able to be diplomatic in the way he was and couldnt maintain those relationships and bonds, to keep their leadership position in tact and protected after he was extradited and convicted.



And heres the De Vito article I was referring to from Journal De Montreal...


Originally Posted By: "Journal de Montreal"


Le caïd a filmé sa cavale
On le voit, entre autres, réagir à la mort de ses filles, tuées par sa conjointe pendant ses années au large



Le mafieux Giuseppe De Vito s’est filmé à plusieurs reprises pendant sa cavale de quatre ans, immortalisant au passage sa peine après l’assassinat de ses deux filles par leur mère ainsi que l’annonce que sa maîtresse est enceinte.
Des dizaines de documents inédits obtenus par le Bureau d’enquête dressent un portrait jusqu’ici inconnu du chef de clan de la mafia montréalaise mort empoisonné au cyanure dans sa prison de Donnacona en 2013.

Des années plus tôt, celui qu’on surnomme «Ponytail» en raison de ses cheveux attachés en queue de cheval se trouve dans la région de Québec le 22 novembre 2006. Il est au téléphone avec sa femme quand il apprend que les policiers mènent la plus grande rafle antimafia de l’histoire canadienne.
Alors que les agents perquisitionnent son domicile de Laval, le mafieux de 40 ans est au téléphone avec sa femme Adèle Sorella qui, elle, est à l’intérieur de leur luxueuse maison. Le criminel a le choix: partir ou rester. Il part.


«Suivez-moi»
«Suivez-moi, je vais vous montrer où nous nous cachons depuis les cinq, six derniers mois», lance plus tard De Vito à la caméra. Il fait une visite guidée de l’appartement de Toronto dans lequel il se terre avec le soutien de la Ndrangheta, un puissant clan de la mafia calabraise.
Il note que le smog recouvre une bonne partie de la Ville Reine. Il met les limiers au défi de le retrouver dans les hauteurs du complexe d’habitation Le Pinnacle.
Au printemps 2009, un événement vient tout changer. Sa femme assassine leurs deux enfants de 8 et 9 ans, Amanda et Sabrina. De Vito enregistre une vidéo extrêmement déstabilisante. S’il n’a pas été possible de connaître sa date d’enregistrement, c’est bien à la mort de ses deux filles que le caïd réagit sur cette vidéo, selon nos informations.
Celui-ci, torse nu, ajuste la caméra pour que le spectateur puisse bien voir ses yeux. Ensuite, il fixe la lentille pendant plus d’une minute trente sans dire un mot. Son visage se tord de douleur sur une musique triste en arrière-plan. Sur son biceps, on peut lire les initiales de ses deux filles assassinées.
D’ailleurs, le soir du meurtre de ses filles tuées par leur mère, l’homme traqué s’était rendu chez son avocat, Me Daniel Rock.
«Il avait le poignet cassé, je ne sais pas ce qu’il avait fracassé. C’était un homme au tempérament très vif», raconte le criminaliste qui l’a rencontré à plusieurs reprises pendant sa cavale.
La grande annonce
Sur un autre document vidéo, De Vito fait une grande annonce. Après avoir perdu ses deux filles, le mafieux dit à la caméra que sa maîtresse Gina Conforti est enceinte. «Je suis gênée par la caméra», dit celle qui va lui donner des jumeaux quelques mois plus tard.



20 MEURTRES?
«Quelle vie! J’ai une longue histoire à raconter», lance Giuseppe De Vito à la caméra qui le filme dans un endroit inconnu trois jours après sa fête.
Il semble détendu, mais on ne saura jamais la suite de l’histoire que le fugitif voulait raconter.
Chose certaine, il a choisi de se rebeller contre l’organisation de l’ancien parrain de la mafia montréalaise Vito Rizzuto en s’alliant à Salvatore Montagna. Ce dernier est fraîchement débarqué de New York pour tenter d’occuper, en vain, le fauteuil du parrain.
Des sources policières croient que De Vito a participé de près ou de loin à près d’une vingtaine de meurtres, dont plusieurs ont précipité la chute du clan sicilien. C’est même lui qui serait derrière l’enlèvement du consigliere Paolo Renda et l’assassinat d’Agostino [BadWord], le numéro deux du clan Rizzuto, selon nos sources policières.
FAUSSE IDENTITÉ
Pendant sa cavale qui va s’échelonner sur quatre ans jusqu’à son arrestation en 2010, De Vito fait des allers-retours entre Toronto et Montréal. Quand il est au Québec, il habite un appartement de la rue Capri sous la fausse identité de Max Mele ou Max Melo.
IL TUE SON PATRON
Selon nos informations, De Vito aurait même assassiné son propre patron Paolo Gervasi en 2004.
Il pouvait être un tueur impitoyable. Lors de la fusillade, une balle provenant de l’arme de De Vito serait passée à travers le corps de Gervasi pour aller se loger dans l’abdomen du jeune Carmelo Tomassino, qui était complice du tueur dans cette affaire.
À la suite de cette blessure, Tomassino aurait été transporté dans un appartement, où la décision aurait été prise de le déposer devant l’hôpital Santa Cabrini pour qu’il y soit soigné.
La police croit que De Vito s’y est opposé et l’a plutôt achevé d’une balle dans la tête. Son corps aurait été brûlé, puis enterré par l’organisation mafieuse.


Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/01/17 05:39 AM



And Ciment, I could be wrong, but isnt Anti from Canada as well, therefore what you said about people hearing things and researching the Canadian Mafia since the 60s, apply to him as well? Except aside from just word of mouth, he also uses actual RCMP documentation and other forms of documentation to make his posts. And I never doubted or disputed you "following Canadian OC dating back to the 60s", but you aren't the only one, and many of the discussion points, you, Sonny, myself, Cabrini, Euro, Dixie, etc, and theories and news we debate about has come from Anti and his posts, just throwing that out there. And yes, Eurodave, I understand that his post dealt with the past however its still within the discusssion as it goes to show despite what some here believe, Vito did still have allies in Toronto, Ontario which kept these groups from acting out directly against him and his leadership. And as already explained, The Rizzutos were a formidable force, thats undeniable, but as myself and others have said, his leadership skills were obviously one in a million. And his successors simply werent able to be diplomatic in the way he was and couldnt maintain those relationships and bonds, to keep their leadership position in tact and protected after he was extradited and convicted.

Sinatra.... If you read my statement I never said anything negative about anti mafia. So where do you come off saying such a thing. Why do you make such stupid comments ?

Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/01/17 12:59 PM

As great leader as he was everyone has an expiration date including vito and his family. That's one thing they don't seem to understand.

The criminal landscape is different now and their time to shine is done
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/01/17 02:46 PM

Leo Rizzuto is a smart guy big shoes to fill but maybe he can pull it off. At least for now he's relatively safe behind bars.
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/01/17 03:05 PM

He may be smart but the reason there has been more blood spilled in this so called second mafia war is the Rizzuto clans reluctance to let go.

In 78-82 after the last Violi got clipped, the Cotronis diplomatically stepped aside and the rest is history.

The only surviving members of the former Montreal Cupola are behind bars.( Arcadi and Del Balso)

In 2016 alone they lost heavy hitters, made men
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/01/17 03:12 PM

Back in 2004 De Vito was still part of the Rizzuto organization. He was caught on tape visiting the cosenza club as late as 2005, perhaps even 2006.
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/01/17 03:25 PM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Back in 2004 De Vito was still part of the Rizzuto organization. He was caught on tape visiting the cosenza club as late as 2005, perhaps even 2006.


"Part" is a strong word...he paid his cut like any other Italian gangster had to, he brought his pizzo as Moreno Gallo did and many many others
Posted By: cdn_wiseguy

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/01/17 03:52 PM

You may be right eurodave, it could be over. But it's still too early for me to be as sure as you. They've spilled more blood in the so called second mafia war, but could that be that they are just weathering the storm? Everyone was wondering why they weren't retaliating very much during the first part of the war. So there was a large assumption that they were defeated. In reality they still had the man power and finances in place, but just couldn't. They had to wait for their top guys to get out of prison and analyze the landscape of who all was going after them. So long as Arcadi/Del Baso group and Liborio C's group stay aligned with Rizzuto/Sollecito, I think they still have a chance. Again, they have to wait until Arcadi/Del Baso get out, which will be soon, and have to see what happens with the charges against Leonardo/Sollecito and separate charges with Liborio.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/01/17 03:57 PM

Originally Posted By: eurodave
He may be smart but the reason there has been more blood spilled in this so called second mafia war is the Rizzuto clans reluctance to let go.

In 78-82 after the last Violi got clipped, the Cotronis diplomatically stepped aside and the rest is history.

The only surviving members of the former Montreal Cupola are behind bars.( Arcadi and Del Balso)

In 2016 alone they lost heavy hitters, made men



Well theres still Leonardo & Stefano. And IF, a real IF, Leonardo & Stefano , Arcadi & Del Balso can put their alleged differences aside, you dont think they could at least put up a fight? And they still might very well have allies on the street, seeing as violence is still occuring and the "Rizzuto clan" hasnt seemed to be giving up just yet. And as mentioned, the [BadWord], at least Liborio, seems to be maintaining the [BadWord]/Rizzuto alliance.
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/01/17 04:03 PM

Honestly I wouldn't say with certainty that they are done, I can't make such blank statements and clearly they have a sizable support group which seems to consist of second generation sons, sons who's fathers have been killed in the second mafia war.

What I'm getting to is their names and past history is carrying less and less weight over the last 4 years or so. Rivals feel empowered and are seemingly bold as of late.

That being said, anything can happen
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/01/17 04:04 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment


And Ciment, I could be wrong, but isnt Anti from Canada as well, therefore what you said about people hearing things and researching the Canadian Mafia since the 60s, apply to him as well? Except aside from just word of mouth, he also uses actual RCMP documentation and other forms of documentation to make his posts. And I never doubted or disputed you "following Canadian OC dating back to the 60s", but you aren't the only one, and many of the discussion points, you, Sonny, myself, Cabrini, Euro, Dixie, etc, and theories and news we debate about has come from Anti and his posts, just throwing that out there. And yes, Eurodave, I understand that his post dealt with the past however its still within the discusssion as it goes to show despite what some here believe, Vito did still have allies in Toronto, Ontario which kept these groups from acting out directly against him and his leadership. And as already explained, The Rizzutos were a formidable force, thats undeniable, but as myself and others have said, his leadership skills were obviously one in a million. And his successors simply werent able to be diplomatic in the way he was and couldnt maintain those relationships and bonds, to keep their leadership position in tact and protected after he was extradited and convicted.

Sinatra.... If you read my statement I never said anything negative about anti mafia. So where do you come off saying such a thing. Why do you make such stupid comments ?




Uhm, where'd I say that you said anything negative about him? I simply asked you a question.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/01/17 04:53 PM

Originally Posted By: eurodave
He may be smart but the reason there has been more blood spilled in this so called second mafia war is the Rizzuto clans reluctance to let go.

In 78-82 after the last Violi got clipped, the Cotronis diplomatically stepped aside and the rest is history.

The only surviving members of the former Montreal Cupola are behind bars.( Arcadi and Del Balso)

In 2016 alone they lost heavy hitters, made men


I agree, it depends if he can be a diplomat like his father.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/01/17 05:13 PM

(And Ciment, I could be wrong, but isnt Anti from Canada as well, therefore what you said about people hearing things and researching the Canadian Mafia since the 60s, apply to him as well?)

If you look at my statement I used the word "also knowledgeable"...which Includes antimafia. Your words make it look that I singled out anti.Instead my words were complementary.

Uhm... I see that you revised your stand about knowledgeable to include others, I like that.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/01/17 06:15 PM

Originally Posted By: eurodave
Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Back in 2004 De Vito was still part of the Rizzuto organization. He was caught on tape visiting the cosenza club as late as 2005, perhaps even 2006.


"Part" is a strong word...he paid his cut like any other Italian gangster had to, he brought his pizzo as Moreno Gallo did and many many others


He killed his boss on orders of the Rizzutos and was kicking up to them as well as working with them. There's also an RCMP chart of the Arcadi cell on which he is listed.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/01/17 06:43 PM

If I am not mistaken, they went a whole two months without anybody getting whacked.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/01/17 08:00 PM

Originally Posted By: cdn_wiseguy
So long as Arcadi/Del Baso group and Liborio C's group stay aligned with Rizzuto/Sollecito, I think they still have a chance. Again, they have to wait until Arcadi/Del Baso get out, which will be soon, and have to see what happens with the charges against Leonardo/Sollecito and separate charges with Liborio.


Agreed. They have a fighting chance IF Arcadi/Del Baso have not turned on the Rizzuto's. If they jump ship too, I think that really could be the end of the Rizzuto's...
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/02/17 01:34 AM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
(And Ciment, I could be wrong, but isnt Anti from Canada as well, therefore what you said about people hearing things and researching the Canadian Mafia since the 60s, apply to him as well?)

If you look at my statement I used the word "also knowledgeable"...which Includes antimafia. Your words make it look that I singled out anti.Instead my words were complementary.

Uhm... I see that you revised your stand about knowledgeable to include others, I like that.







Huh?







I didnt even realize Sonny posted the De Vito film Journal De Montreal article on the previous page before I did. So theres basically two articles stating the exact same thing on the last page. Lol. My bad.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/02/17 04:35 AM

Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
[quote=Ciment](And Ciment, I could be wrong, but isnt Anti from Canada as well, therefore what you said about people hearing things and researching the Canadian Mafia since the 60s, apply to him as well?)

If you look at my statement I used the word "also knowledgeable"...which Includes antimafia. Your words make it look that I singled out anti.Instead my words were complementary.

Uhm... I see that you revised your stand about knowledgeable to include others, I like that.







Huh?.......Sinatra Club quote: "Well , for one , i didnt state any "facts", just what I thought."







Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/02/17 11:45 AM

That was in my original post on the matter. I didnt edit that in, if thats what you're implying.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/02/17 12:48 PM

Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
That was in my original post on the matter. I didnt edit that in, if thats what you're implying.


Huhm....I am confused, are you talking about facts or are you telling me about your thoughts right now ?
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/02/17 02:32 PM

I'm lost.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/02/17 09:44 PM

La voiture du mafieux Marco Pizzi incendiée à Rivière-des-Prairies

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/01...re-des-prairies
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/02/17 10:03 PM

[quote=antimafia]La voiture du mafieux Marco Pizzi incendiée à Rivière-des-Prairies


This guy has a lot of luck on his side.
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/02/17 11:15 PM

Seriously Marco just give it up already
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/02/17 11:28 PM

One thing you have to give him, he is very dedicated to his work.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/03/17 12:15 AM

Anybody got a translation for that article ?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/03/17 01:04 AM

Translations:


FÉLIX SÉGUIN
Monday, 2 January 2017 16:00Update Monday, 2 January 2017 16:00

The year 2017 began as 2016 ended for the mafia Marco Pizzi. His vehicle was burned in the parking lot of his home in Rivières-des-Prairies, in the night from Sunday to Monday.
There were neighbors who called the police after hearing what appeared to be a blast, at 8625 Gouin Boulevard East.
Upon arrival, the firefighters noticed a strong odor of accelerating emanating from the BMW's 46-year-old man.
According to the SPVM, everything points to a fire arson.
No collaboration
It appears that the alleged trafficker offers very little cooperation to the police investigation.
"When we asked him to provide us with the camera recordings from his home surveillance cameras, he said it was not working," a police source said.
Marco Pizzi seems to be a key player in recent upheavals related to the Montreal mafia.
Often targeted
On August 1, he escaped a murder attempt that occurred in broad daylight in Montreal East.
During the last four months, businesses or buildings belonging to him have been targeted by incendiaries. The arson occurred last December 14 . The Automobile Trade Plus business, located on Notre-Dame Street, had been targeted overnight.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/03/17 01:32 AM

Dude has 9 lives lol
Posted By: cdn_wiseguy

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/03/17 02:37 AM

Is there any definitive information on Pizzi yet? (who he's working with) Wasn't there an article stating that he was with meeting with callocchia when callocchia was killed? I think it said he went to the bathroom and it happened when he was gone, so there was a possibility that he was part of the set up, or he was lucky and that was another one of his 9 lives. lol

Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/03/17 02:55 AM

He owns alot or property and real estate in the eastern part of the city and clearly had some importance within the Rizzuto clan

One of his commercial buildings was formerly owned or linked to Arcuri which I find rather interesting.
Posted By: Booster

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/03/17 03:58 AM

I believe This is all related to the Red street gangs. I believe this all revenge for the murders of chenier and Lamartine. The person that was arrested for the Pizzi missed attempt in August was from the reds. Once the three street bosses got arrested one them being Gregory wooley all hell broke loose. I am not convinced this is a Sicilian against calabrian thing. To many intertwined people from both parties.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/03/17 08:16 AM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
Translations:


FÉLIX SÉGUIN
Monday, 2 January 2017 16:00Update Monday, 2 January 2017 16:00

The year 2017 began as 2016 ended for the mafia Marco Pizzi. His vehicle was burned in the parking lot of his home in Rivières-des-Prairies, in the night from Sunday to Monday.
There were neighbors who called the police after hearing what appeared to be a blast, at 8625 Gouin Boulevard East.
Upon arrival, the firefighters noticed a strong odor of accelerating emanating from the BMW's 46-year-old man.
According to the SPVM, everything points to a fire arson.
No collaboration
It appears that the alleged trafficker offers very little cooperation to the police investigation.
"When we asked him to provide us with the camera recordings from his home surveillance cameras, he said it was not working," a police source said.
Marco Pizzi seems to be a key player in recent upheavals related to the Montreal mafia.
Often targeted
On August 1, he escaped a murder attempt that occurred in broad daylight in Montreal East.
During the last four months, businesses or buildings belonging to him have been targeted by incendiaries. The arson occurred last December 14 . The Automobile Trade Plus business, located on Notre-Dame Street, had been targeted overnight.




Thanks, Ciment.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/03/17 08:21 AM

Originally Posted By: Booster
I believe This is all related to the Red street gangs. I believe this all revenge for the murders of chenier and Lamartine. The person that was arrested for the Pizzi missed attempt in August was from the reds. Once the three street bosses got arrested one them being Gregory wooley all hell broke loose. I am not convinced this is a Sicilian against calabrian thing. To many intertwined people from both parties.



Interesting theory. But I dont agree with it, too many high profile mob guys have died as a result of all this, Rocco Sollecito, Lorenzo Giordano among them. And pretty much zero street gang casualties. The street gangs specifically the Reds , which I believe is Wooleys group, are connected with the bikers now, and I believe Wooley is now identified more as a Hells Angel, than a Reds leader, I could be wrong. Theres no doubt, at least in my mind, that they may be involved ie. contracted hitters, but I dont believe they're the reason behind all of this. And Im almost sure Operation MAGOT/MASTIF mentioned that one of Wooleys trusted guys now run the Reds, and that he was also indicted along with him. And judging from MASTIF, it seems Wooley and his group, including the Reds were connected with Leonardo Rizzuto & Stefano Sollecito and that the two mentioned were their suppliers.
Posted By: Booster

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/03/17 01:01 PM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/montre...le-qui-vive.php
You have to remember here was three top gang leaders that got arrested together with wooley. The reds did not want to work with hells unless they had a change of heart. Also how you going to kill a gangster they don't even know where to start.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/03/17 01:28 PM

Plus de meurtres liés au crime organisé

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/01/03/plus-de-meurtres-lies-au-crime-organise
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/03/17 01:33 PM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/01/03/incendie-criminel-chez-un-proche-du-gang-de-louest

A close associate to the Montreal west end gang,house was put on fire.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/03/17 01:38 PM

So you think because they wouldnt be able to kill the average gang member that they'd target mob guys, I dont get it, why would they do that? And Gregory Wooley was the former head of the Reds street gang, he's now recognized as a fully patched Hells Angel. His liuetenant, whose name I forget right now, was arraigned with him, according to Operation MAGOT-MASTIFF, Wooley left him in charge of the Reds group, by extension, they're Hells Angels affiliates. Wooley supposedly united the Reds & Blues after the murder of the haitian Blues leader whom owned the boutique, whose name I also forget right now. It was suspected Rizzuto may have been behind that murder because of the Haitians alliance with Montagna & Tony Mucci, and the haitians were once suspected to be those who killed Nicolo Jr. at the order of the two previously mentioned. I dont think this was ever proven, but that was supposedly the reason behind the death of the blues leader, other sources say Wooley was responsible, could be both, I dont know. But Boucher was sending messages to Wooley plotting the murder of Desjardins through Boucher's daughter. And supposedly through Wooley and his lieutenant were low level enforcers for the remnants of the Rizzuto group, and were aligned with Cazzetta, another Les' Hells member, as Cazzetta was the money man for the narcotics purchased from the Rizzuto clan and then given to the street gangs or sold for a lower number, to sell on the street, according to the indictment. Point of all this being, the Reds seemed to have indeed been cooperating with the Hells Angels through Wooley (supposedly a former bodyguard for Boucher) and Salvatore Cazzetta. So much so that when the indictments first came down, various articles were referring to the Reds as now being a Hells Angels sub-group, I guess because of Wooleys supposedly patching over, I dont know if thats indeed the case though.



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Cops 'Decapitate' Montreal Mafia, Hells Angels, and Street Gangs in One Big Bust
By Justin Ling

November 19, 2015 | 12:40 pm
Quebec police have slapped a spate of charges against 45 "high level" members of the North American underworld as part of a two-year investigation involving drug trafficking, money laundering, and murder.

Police say the Italian mafia, the Hells Angels biker gang, and a coalition of street gangs were all working in unity to run territory throughout the East Coast.

"Those arrested were high-level players," Gaétan Courchesne, from the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, told reporters Thursday morning.

The alleged alliance between the three criminal organizations came about after sweeping arrests through the 1990s and 2000s.

A brutal gang war resulted in and around Montreal, as challengers to the throne of mafia boss Vito Rizzuto — who was arrested in 2004 and died in hospital in 2013 — fought to take over his expansive crime family, which at one time controlled activities throughout New York and Sicily. Rizzuto's father and son were both shot to death during the violence, as were a smattering of Rizzuto's associates and enemies.

On Thursday police arrested Leonardo Rizzuto, son of Vito, as well as Stefano Sollecito, the man believed to have taken over from Rizzuto. They also picked up Loris Cavaliere, lawyer to the Rizzuto family, whose law office in Montreal's Little Italy had once been fire bombed.


The biker and street gangs, which were also said to have been responsible for racking up their own considerable body count over the past several years, were tasked with much of the drug-running and low-level enforcement for the Italians, according to the police.

"They made an alliance to keep control of their territory, and to help distribute narcotics," said Patrick Bélanger, Chief Inspector of the Sûreté du Québec.

Related: Hells Angels Biker Trial Comes to Stunning End as Judge Accuses Prosecutor of 'Abuses'

But Thursday's announcement also exposed divisions in the alliance. Several of the early-morning arrests involved a murder plot that targeted Raynald Desjardins, Vito Rizzuto's former right-hand man who supposedly made his own plan to take over the syndicate. Police say that the Hells Angels, at the direction of their jailed leader Maurice Boucher, had put out a hit on Desjardins in order to "maintain their territory" for their drug trafficking according to one SQ investigator.

Boucher, commonly known as "Mom," was the feared head of the Hells — supposedly booted from the group in 2014 — who is serving consecutive life sentences for his role in ordering the murder of two Quebec prison guards. Police arrested Boucher, inside his jail cell, and his daughter in connection with the plot against Desjardins. Police say that Boucher served as an "intermediary" and helped plan the murder during meets that took place at his maximum-security prison.

Police also arrested Gregory Wooley, a full-patch Hells member and reputed head of the North Montreal street gangs — divided between the "Reds" and the "Blues," often styled after the "Bloods" and "Crips" — that have often scrapped. Wooley was said to have united the two sides, and was reportedly responsible for the broad daylight execution of two gang leaders who balked at the gang unity, or who were operating outside the authority of the Hells.

"Evidently, you'd understand that an operation like today's will create a large hole, an emptiness, in the criminal environment," said Belanger.

Related: Calabrian Mafia Reportedly Cultivated Suspicious Links to Australian Politicians

While Thursday's arrests have already been heralded as the "decapitation" of Quebec's once-powerful criminal organization, Quebec has had a murky record on these sorts of grandiose operations.

SharQC, a large-scale investigation into the Hells Angels, netted 156 arrests and more than 100 guilty pleas on murder conspiracy charges. The first high-profile murder trial, however, was abruptly ended in October after a Quebec judge threw out the Crown's case for mishandling evidence.

Even so, police efforts to root out corruption and organized crime in Quebec have produced results in recent years. Investigations have brought down three different Montreal-area mayors, and have run mob-linked construction and contracting companies out of business.

The investigations that wrapped up this week — dubbed Project MAGOT, for the drug trafficking investigation; and Project MASTIFF, for the investigation into money laundering — have seized over $1 million so far in proceeds of crime. They've also grabbed guns, seven kilograms of cocaine, and a Harley Davidson motorcycle.

Quebec police say the investigation is ongoing, as they still have search warrants to execute throughout the province. Several suspects are currently at large in Mexico, they added.



That article is from VICE.com. I'm only using that as a source right now because Im on my iphone and apparently I cant translate the normal Journal De Montreal articles I would usually use as my first news source.
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/03/17 02:31 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/01/03/incendie-criminel-chez-un-proche-du-gang-de-louest

A close associate to the Montreal west end gang,house was put on fire.


Ironically that area is extremely Italian and has many mafiosi including Joe Torre, De Vito's ex wife, Kanho and many others

2017 is already looking to become an exciting year
Posted By: Booster

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/03/17 03:57 PM

I am aware of all those articles. I am more specifically speaking about pizzi that he was hit buy a red. Also that it was common knowledge chenier did not want to work with the Hells. Maybe Hells and gangs are now against Rizzutos.
Yes it would be hard to go after a gang member. How do you firebomb them they don't have anything.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/03/17 04:28 PM

Originally Posted By: eurodave
Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/01/03/incendie-criminel-chez-un-proche-du-gang-de-louest

A close associate to the Montreal west end gang,house was put on fire.


Ironically that area is extremely Italian and has many mafiosi including Joe Torre, De Vito's ex wife, Kanho and many others

2017 is already looking to become an exciting year


This guy is well connected with the Irish mob and Richard Griffin. DeVito used to do business with Richard Griffin.

Another thing I noticed is the attacks have escalated from commercial businesses to peoples homes. Ex. Pizzi's car burned in front of his home , John McKenzie home burned and Spagnolo they went at his home to kill him. Seems they have become more desperate for results.
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/03/17 04:36 PM

I would assume attacking the house is ultra personal and intimate as well as putting potential family members in danger.

If they're doing so, whoever is ordering this isnt messing around
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/03/17 04:37 PM

I get what youre saying Booster overall, but you can hit an average gang member, I dont know how they are in Canada, but street gangs typically hang around the same turfs and simply dont have the discipline of organized criminals. The higher ranking ones in Canada seem to be cut from a different breed though. What I'm trying to figure out is why you think that because they cant reach a gang member why'd they decide to hit an Italian mobster, from everything I've learned about Canada, the mobsters seem to be of a higher echelon than the average Red or Blue gang member, and use them mostly as low level enforcers and street traffickers. But thats not the point, I'm just trying to understand why they would go after Italian mobsters, because their unable to reach their true target, that being a gang member, especially if this is all a street gang beef at its core. Do Canadian mobsters typically involve themselves in low level affairs between street gangs?



And as history has shown, as recently as Project MASTIF, the Hells typically work with the Rizzuto group. And according to Peter Edwards and "Business Or Blood" Vito established an alliance with Wooley and his former Reds group after Wooley supposedly united his group and some of the leaderless Blues. Things couldve changed though, specifically Wooley who is now recognized as a fully patched Hells member, but MAGOT-MASTIF claimed that Wooley still asserts control over the Reds through his lieutenant, as well as the Blues and that they were aligned with the Rizzuto/Sollecito leadership. I dont know if that still stands now though. But arent Wooley and his lieutenant still incarcerated for the MAGOT-MASTIF charges? Anyone know?


The lieutenant is Dany Sprinces-Cadet, whom allegedly runs the Syndicate street gang and still reports to Woolley supposedly. Another black man was arrested as part of Operation MAGOT-MASTIFF, Jean Winsling Bartheus, but I dont know where he fits into that operation, as this is my first time seeing his name.
Posted By: Booster

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/03/17 06:36 PM

Here is an old article about gangs and mentioning of them working with mafia.
http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...61_article_POS1

Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/03/17 07:02 PM

Italians working with the gangs is old news. Most Haitians and other minor ties like the arabs and to a lesser extent the Latinos, live in the same areas so it's a relationship that's developed for years now.

Has there been friction between the groups? Of course there has but there also been friction with other groups like the bikers, but also gangs on biker friction .

Current mafia turmoil is mostly internal
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/03/17 07:18 PM

I agree the Rizzuto problems are internal within the Mafia, I don't see the gangs having any go ahead to go after anyone without approval at this point. I do still think the Hells are still with the Rizzuto's as well.
Posted By: cdn_wiseguy

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/03/17 07:31 PM

I agree with Sinatra and eurodave on this. The attacks and threats toward Pizzi have little to do with revenge for Chenier and Lamartine. It is internal and involves a battle for territory between competing mafia clans. Reds could very well be carrying out the attacks, that wouldn't surprise anyone, but it would likely be because they have been contracted out.
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/03/17 07:59 PM

Also consider that the gangs don't give a rats ass who is in charge so long as they pay

Calabrians, Sicilians, Rizzuto or not they follow the green.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/03/17 09:09 PM

Originally Posted By: antimafia


It's interesting that the Sûreté du Québec said there is no indication of a new war, but that unpaid debts and internal purges are likely behind most of the violence.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/03/17 10:08 PM

Originally Posted By: Booster
I am aware of all those articles. I am more specifically speaking about pizzi that he was hit buy a red. Also that it was common knowledge chenier did not want to work with the Hells. Maybe Hells and gangs are now against Rizzutos.
Yes it would be hard to go after a gang member. How do you firebomb them they don't have anything.





Now that I've read the article, I remember the Depuy thing may have been covered in "Business Or Blood". Interesting how you were disputing the fact that the Reds didn't want to work with the Hells, because he voiced his disagreement with Vito, and Wooley's supposed consolidation with the Rizzutos & the Reds (Syndicates for this matter) relationship with the Hells Angels when this guy has been dead for years. Not saying it still isnt an interesting theory, and because of such I understand more where you come from now, about members within the Reds possibly being upset over his murder. But I still disagree with the overall theory of mob guys being involved in some shit like this. If anything Depuys murder was most likely an internal hit, the hitters just followed command from the new order. Still dont see it likely the Montreal Mafia involves itself in something like that.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/03/17 10:22 PM

http://www.985fm.ca/actualites/nouvelles...Tnkgj-I.twitter

This is starting to get more complicated.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/03/17 10:40 PM

Originally Posted By: cdn_wiseguy
I agree with Sinatra and eurodave on this. The attacks and threats toward Pizzi have little to do with revenge for Chenier and Lamartine. It is internal and involves a battle for territory between competing mafia clans. Reds could very well be carrying out the attacks, that wouldn't surprise anyone, but it would likely be because they have been contracted out.



Exactly. The Italians have been using gang members to carry out hits for years now. Magi did it, Montagna did it, Rizzuto did it, it seems like a trend since the mob war escalated in 2009.
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/03/17 10:45 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://www.985fm.ca/actualites/nouvelles...Tnkgj-I.twitter

This is starting to get more complicated.


Interesting perspective by Andre. Pizzi is indeed a Calabrian surname but as we've seen prior, it means little. He was assumed to be close to the Rizzuto leadership and maybe be up against the rival clans Renaud had mentioned last week with backing by the hells.

The whole mafia biker relationship is very complex and has always been so. There used to be solid mediatiors for tensions amongst bikers and mobsters like Rizzuto and Gallo...doesn't seem to be anyone to be able to qualm tensions locally

To be honest...the most senior and heavy mafia members left are in Ontario
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/03/17 10:51 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://www.985fm.ca/actualites/nouvelles...Tnkgj-I.twitter

This is starting to get more complicated.


Does anyone have reliable information that Marco Pizzi has Calabrian ancestry as stated by the article? André Cédilot has made serious misidentifications over the years, especially in Mafia inc.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/03/17 10:57 PM


Translation:

The murders linked to organized crime were more numerous in 2016 and according to the journalist André Cédilot, the Hells Angels are putting pressure on the mafia.
On August 1, 2016, the mafia Marco Pizzi was the victim of an attempted murder. Then, on the night of December 13 to 14, his business was the target of an arson fire.

On Monday, his vehicle was set on fire in the parking lot of his home in Rivière-des-Prairies.

"Organized crime is in reorganization mode right now. These are messages to Marco Pizzi. He is a mafia calabrian. He grew up in the shadow of the Rizzuto clan. And he made his money in drug trafficking and money laundering by investing heavily in real estate and automotive.

"Now that the Rizzuto clan has left the place free, several second-generation mobsters want to get out of the shadows. This is the third reorganization attempt of the mafia. Every time this happens, there are people who are trying to take up more space, "explained André Cédilot, an organized crime journalist and co-author of Mafia Inc.

The Hells in good position

According to Mr. Cédilot, the Hells Angels are taking control of all organized crime activities.

"We know that the Hells Angels have the upper hand because they have a lot of relief in Quebec. While the recruiting pool for Italians is much smaller than the Hells. It's also interesting to know that the name of Pizzi, was found on a blacklist , of a someone close to the Hells Angels in 2015. "
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/03/17 11:00 PM

That surname is mostly from the Reggio Calabria region but he could very well be mixed.

Arcadi, Giordano and Macri were also from Reggio (origins) and also part of the Rizzuto organization.

Anti and others....I wouldn't read much into it as you pointed it out that Cedillot has made some bold claims in the past
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/03/17 11:01 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://www.985fm.ca/actualites/nouvelles...Tnkgj-I.twitter

This is starting to get more complicated.


So Pizzi is a Calabrian? Wasn't he close to [BadWord] or was that simply my interpretation?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/03/17 11:06 PM


It looks like Andre Cedilot is implying that the Hells have taken a side. Because he mentions at the end that someone close to the Hells have Pizzi on a blacklist.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/03/17 11:09 PM

Originally Posted By: eurodave
That surname is mostly from the Reggio Calabria region but he could very well mixed.

Arcadi, Giordano and Macri were also from Reggio (origins) and also part of the Rizzuto organization.


His father was a friend of Vito for 40 years than it doesn't matter any more where they originally came from.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/03/17 11:10 PM

Yes he was doing business with Cun trera and he was an associate of Callocchia but I do not know if Pizzi was Calabrian but I believe Callocchia is.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/03/17 11:19 PM

We definitely need to be careful with the supposed ancestry of some individuals.

A good site that gives some indication:
http://www.gens.info/italia/it/turismo-v...=6#.WGww-b3vLqA
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/03/17 11:20 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment

It looks like Andre Cedilot is implying that the Hells have taken a side. Because he mentions at the end that someone close to the Hells have Pizzi on a blacklist.


If the Hells in Quebec are now in a superior position compared with other organized-crime groups in the Quebec, I wonder why they even need the Montreal Mafia and independent Italian drug traffickers in the province.

It's easy to forget that both the Quebec Hells Angels and the West End Gang have become serious importers of drugs in their own right since the 1990s, not to mention having continued control of stevedores and checkers at the Port of Montreal. And with the recent return of the Hells to Nova Scotia, they are probably now planting a flag in the Port of Halifax--they can import drugs and even export them through the port.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/03/17 11:23 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
Yes he was doing business with Cun trera and he was an associate of Callocchia but I do not know if Pizzi was Calabrian but I believe Callocchia is.


Callocchia is not of Calabrian ancestry. He was married to a woman who is the sister of Vincenzo Armeni's ex-wife.
Posted By: cdn_wiseguy

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/03/17 11:45 PM

Pizzi was arrested with Liborio C as part of project clemenza and shared a couple of charges from working together.

Pizzi is quite intriguing. In working with [BadWord], one would assume he was still in the Rizzuto camp. But the Callochia death was bizzare because it sounded like Pizzi was possibly involved in that. (or maybe he was also an intended target and really did just happen to go to the bathroom at the exact time that the hitmen came for Callochia and didn't have a chance at Pizzi who was also an intended target) But Callochia was also assumed to be in the Rizzuto camp. In any event, whether Pizzi played a part in getting rid of Callochia, I don't know, but I have a feeling that Pizzi has carried on from the gains that Callochia made.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Callochia took up a lot territory in riviere do prairies area after De Vito was arrested/died in prison. De Vito's crew was hit pretty hard as well. An educated guess could be that Pizzi has tried to keep what Collochia has taken over, and what left of De Vito's crew is trying to regain it or what was left possibly joined with the Scoppas who were associcated with De Vito and both De Vito and Scoppas had ties to the hells, which coincides with that last article that Ciment posted)
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/03/17 11:47 PM

You make a valid point, there is nothing stopping the Hells from go on their own. The mafia is in turmoil on account of this war and have become weaker. The same was true with the Hells when they were having their war with the Rock Machine. They were weakened considerably but they made a comeback.
There is another factor to consider is the Ndrangheta, have they made a alliance with the Hells or other mafia clans from Quebec?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/03/17 11:52 PM

It was that relation that led me to believe he was, thanks for the correction antimafia. What region of Italy was callocchia from if I may ask ?
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/04/17 12:14 AM

Originally Posted By: cdn_wiseguy
Pizzi was arrested with Liborio C as part of project clemenza and shared a couple of charges from working together.

Pizzi is quite intriguing. In working with [BadWord], one would assume he was still in the Rizzuto camp. But the Callochia death was bizzare because it sounded like Pizzi was possibly involved in that. (or maybe he was also an intended target and really did just happen to go to the bathroom at the exact time that the hitmen came for Callochia and didn't have a chance at Pizzi who was also an intended target) But Callochia was also assumed to be in the Rizzuto camp. In any event, whether Pizzi played a part in getting rid of Callochia, I don't know, but I have a feeling that Pizzi has carried on from the gains that Callochia made.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Callochia took up a lot territory in riviere do prairies area after De Vito was arrested/died in prison. De Vito's crew was hit pretty hard as well. An educated guess could be that Pizzi has tried to keep what Collochia has taken over, and what left of De Vito's crew is trying to regain it or what was left possibly joined with the Scoppas who were associcated with De Vito and both De Vito and Scoppas had ties to the hells, which coincides with that last article that Ciment posted)



Pizzi did indeed seem to take alot of space in rdp which used to be a stronghold for both desjardins/Mirarchi and De Vito
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/04/17 12:22 AM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
We definitely need to be careful with the supposed ancestry of some individuals.

A good site that gives some indication:
http://www.gens.info/italia/it/turismo-v...=6#.WGww-b3vLqA


Your right, Andre Cedilot in this article is the same guy that wrote in Mafia Inc. that Joe DiMaulo was from Calabria instead of Campobasso.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/04/17 12:41 AM

Originally Posted By: cdn_wiseguy
Pizzi was arrested with Liborio C as part of project clemenza and shared a couple of charges from working together.

Pizzi is quite intriguing. In working with [BadWord], one would assume he was still in the Rizzuto camp. But the Callochia death was bizzare because it sounded like Pizzi was possibly involved in that. (or maybe he was also an intended target and really did just happen to go to the bathroom at the exact time that the hitmen came for Callochia and didn't have a chance at Pizzi who was also an intended target) But Callochia was also assumed to be in the Rizzuto camp. In any event, whether Pizzi played a part in getting rid of Callochia, I don't know, but I have a feeling that Pizzi has carried on from the gains that Callochia made.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Callochia took up a lot territory in riviere do prairies area after De Vito was arrested/died in prison. De Vito's crew was hit pretty hard as well. An educated guess could be that Pizzi has tried to keep what Collochia has taken over, and what left of De Vito's crew is trying to regain it or what was left possibly joined with the Scoppas who were associcated with De Vito and both De Vito and Scoppas had ties to the hells, which coincides with that last article that Ciment posted)



Funny I had my doubts with Pizzi also, the washroom scenario made me think of Luciano/Masseria scene. Luciano goes to the washroom and Masseria gets killed.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/04/17 01:44 AM

Originally Posted By: cdn_wiseguy
Pizzi was arrested with Liborio C as part of project clemenza and shared a couple of charges from working together.

Pizzi is quite intriguing. In working with [BadWord], one would assume he was still in the Rizzuto camp. But the Callochia death was bizzare because it sounded like Pizzi was possibly involved in that. (or maybe he was also an intended target and really did just happen to go to the bathroom at the exact time that the hitmen came for Callochia and didn't have a chance at Pizzi who was also an intended target) But Callochia was also assumed to be in the Rizzuto camp. In any event, whether Pizzi played a part in getting rid of Callochia, I don't know, but I have a feeling that Pizzi has carried on from the gains that Callochia made.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Callochia took up a lot territory in riviere do prairies area after De Vito was arrested/died in prison. De Vito's crew was hit pretty hard as well. An educated guess could be that Pizzi has tried to keep what Collochia has taken over, and what left of De Vito's crew is trying to regain it or what was left possibly joined with the Scoppas who were associcated with De Vito and both De Vito and Scoppas had ties to the hells, which coincides with that last article that Ciment posted)



Interesting analysis.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/04/17 08:25 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
It was that relation that led me to believe he was, thanks for the correction antimafia. What region of Italy was callocchia from if I may ask ?


I am fairly certain that Callocchia has ancestry from Abruzzo. If not Abruzzo, then from Lazio (Rome in particular).
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/04/17 08:33 PM

Thanks, I think it Abruzzo. I went to check some immigration records there seems to be many of them that came from Aeilli Abruzzo.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/05/17 12:21 AM

That corresponds with that site I posted earlier. The name exists predominantly in Abruzzo and Lazio.

Does anybody know the ancestry of Pietrantonio? I presumed the guy was Sicilian because he was close to the other Sicilians such as [BadWord], Rizzuto, Lo Presti and later Montagna, but I now think he probably hails from the mainland too.
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/05/17 12:41 AM

Pietrantonio is also from the mainland and most likely central.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/05/17 12:42 AM

The name is very common but the origin that pops up more frequent by order are from these places is Campobasso, Caserta, Bari.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/05/17 05:10 PM

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...-montreal-mafia

More firebombings !
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/05/17 06:14 PM

So, I'm guessing the guy whom used to owned the salon are associates of Del Balso & Arcadi, and maybe Giordano when he was alive. And the guy whom's wife owns it now, may also be tied with Del Balso at least. Del Balso , Giordano & Arcadi were all close to Domenico Macri. But I think the death of Macri was a blow to the family as a whole, than just those three. Possibly.


Interesting.
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/05/17 07:10 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment


This is getting personal....homes, hair salons, car dealerships etc..

It seems anyone remotely connected to the Rizzuto clan is getting it in the arse
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/05/17 08:01 PM

Every day I click on this post first because it's almost GUARANTEED to have a new story on it. lol

This is getting crazy!
Posted By: cdn_wiseguy

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/05/17 08:07 PM

The pick up in fire bombings and threats reminds me of the year leading up to Vito Rizzuto's release from prison. Vito's opponents were methodical, for the first few years, but just prior to his release things picked up. Opponents rushed and tried to fully have everything under control before he got out so that he couldn't mount a come back. Arcadi and Del Baso are due to be released shortly, and this could be opponents trying to weaken them as much as possible so they have little to work with when they get out. The owner and previous owner's husbands (Cannistraro and Torre) both seem like they are important parts of the Arcadi group.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/05/17 09:15 PM

Yes it looks like they are not sparing the wife's businesses either. Anything goes.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/05/17 09:26 PM

http://bitterqueen.typepad.com/friends_of_ours/2009/03/montreal-mafia-associate-sentenced.html

This was the couple's lavish life style they were living in the Past.
Posted By: Stu_Katz

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/06/17 12:06 AM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
That corresponds with that site I posted earlier. The name exists predominantly in Abruzzo and Lazio.

Does anybody know the ancestry of Pietrantonio? I presumed the guy was Sicilian because he was close to the other Sicilians such as [BadWord], Rizzuto, Lo Presti and later Montagna, but I now think he probably hails from the mainland too.


The guy's Campobassane.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/06/17 12:38 AM

Which part they came from is nice to know, but it doesn't really matter like it didn't matter Gotti was a neapolitan and his underboss Gravano a sicilian.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/06/17 01:25 AM

Yea, but these Montreal guys, judging from the past, has put more credence into blood lines, and proximities of closeness back in the old country, a lot more than the NY families did post-"Lucianos formation of The Commission" and the years after. They remind me of the construction of the old early 19th century NY families, where the closer you were to their homeland back in Italy, the more trusted you were and more chance you had to rise in the family organization here in America. The Sicilian Rizzuto side I'm assuming always were more close because of the blood line ties, and the dependence on members who hailed from the same towns and its surrounding neighbors back in Italy. I haven't seen enough to suggest that the Calabrians and those not of Sicilian descent don't do the same. Only difference I've seen is that the Calabrians used to be more open and dependent to French Canadian gangsters being amongst them. At least thats what it always seemed like to me.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/06/17 01:33 AM

Originally Posted By: Hollander
Which part they came from is nice to know, but it doesn't really matter like it didn't matter Gotti was a neapolitan and his underboss Gravano a sicilian.


I understand what you mean, but the misinformation about from where the past and present Montrealers descend is repeatedly spread through books, articles, blog posts, forums, tweets, etc.

If the D'Amicos, Piccirilli, Franco Mattoso, the Di Maulos, and others have been misidentified as Calabrians and continue to be, then we all have to revisit our theories and, perhaps, look for the nuances in the relationships between two or more mobsters, two or more Italian criminal groups, two or more mafia factions within a criminal group, and two or more mafie.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/06/17 01:43 AM

Yea thats valid, we'd all have to rethink whos really behind this war, whose against whom, and why. Because if it's a mixture of say, Sicilians, Calabrians, Neopolitans, French Canadians, guys from Campobasso, Abruzzi, Bari, on both sides, then it becomes a jumbled mess. And we could all be wrong as to whose behind this, and why this is going on.
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/06/17 01:49 AM

Italians in Canada are mostly 2nd and 3rd generation so their links to the continent tend to be much stronger. People in Montreal and Toronto still speak their local dialects, origins do matter in mafia circles although it's more diversified in North America vs Italy

Canadian authors have rarely grasped the concept of cultural origins within mafia circles and have made multiple mistake in the last few years with respect to who comes from where.

Mobsters like Di Maulo or Mucci became criminals here and we're not initiated into any organization back home mainly because mafia tradition is mostly found in Calabria Sicily and Naples.

The so called Calabrians in Montreal are merely a loose federation or criminals with different ethnic roots much like the Rizzutos had various people from different parts of Italy

The more insular Toronto ndrangheta is composed mainly of Calabrians but even then, associates can be from others parts
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/06/17 01:59 AM

I agree with both posts Sinatra. But I do believe the Montreal Mafia still has the same Cosa Nostra structure with a boss, underboss, consigliere and captains.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/06/17 04:28 AM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/01/05/la-mafia-en-pleine-deroute

According to the article the Montreal mafia is defeated and the Calabrians seem to be in a good position to regain control.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/06/17 04:41 AM

Journal De Montreal translation:



ÉRIC THIBAULT
Thursday, 5 January 2017 23:15Update Thursday, 5 January 2017 23:15
Without rudder, the Montreal mafia is completely disorganized at the end of another year of vendetta marked by the murders of three pillars of the Rizzuto clan.
Decimated by internal wars and police raids, the mafia is still in search of true leadership three years after the death of Vito Rizzuto, who died on December 23, 2013 after being the sponsor for nearly 20 years.
"The Montreal mafia is defeated. It has no rudder or structure as it was when it was headed by Vito Rizzuto or Vincent Cotroni, "says author Pierre De Champlain, an organized crime specialist and ex-intelligence analyst with the RCMP.
"Cleaning up"
According to him, 2016 was "one of the worst years" of the last decade in the murders perpetrated in the mafia milieu.
The fall of the Rizzuto clan accelerated with the assassination of three other major actors: the aspiring godfather Lorenzo Giordano, the interim leader Rocco Sollecito and Vincenzo Spagnolo, considered the "most faithful lieutenant" of the late godfather Rizzuto.
"In my opinion, the Sicilian clan is so weak at the moment that it no longer seems able to retaliate. We are witnessing a clean-up, "observed De Champlain.
The two main known leaders of the mafia, Leonardo Rizzuto and Stefano Sollecito, are awaiting trial for conspiracy, drug trafficking and gangsterism. Son of the late godfather, the former is in prison. Son of the late interim chief, the second is seriously ill.
The "Table de Direction" of the mafia they sat broke out with their arrest a year ago, coinciding with those of the alleged leader of the Hells Angels, Salvatore Cazzetta, and the number one street gang in Montreal , Gregory Woolley.
Return of the Calabrian clan?
"It has often happened in the past, mainly in Sicily and New York, that the mafia has been hit hard and has had to stay in the maquis for a few years before getting back up. Will this be the case in Montreal? "Asks the expert who has long followed the activities of the Montreal mafia while he was employed by the RCMP.
According to him, the year 2017 could give rise to a change of custody.
"The Calabrians seem to be in a good position to regain control," he said, referring to the sons of two ex-sponsors Paolo Violi and Frank Cotroni.
Our investigation office revealed on December 6 that Dominic Violi, born in Montreal and suspected of being linked to the Calabrian mafia of Hamilton, and Michel Cotroni met in October in a restaurant in Baie-D'Urfé, Which has since been ravaged by a suspect fire.
"But we'll have to see how it goes between them and the Hells Angels, who are in full swing," added De Champlain.
The last year was the return of the Hells Angels and bikers are expected to increase their hold on the criminal market in 2017.
Currently, "no criminal organization in Quebec has the ability to stand up to the Hells," say several police sources familiar with the activities of organized crime.
"The bikers are in a strong position. Unlike the mafia, it is a global organization, well structured and implemented throughout Quebec. It's not the workforce that's missing, "says Pierre De Champlain, a former intelligence analyst with the RCMP.
They now control the Quebec drug market, to the point of collecting a 10% sales tax from the other criminal groups - even the mafia - on the income they generate on "their" territory.
SharQc survivors
Neutralized by the imprisonment of the majority of their members since Operation SharQC of 2009, bikers have been well served by the confusion surrounding the outcome of the judicial proceedings of this historic police raid.
First, five of them had been released from charges of murder during the trial 14 months ago because the Crown delayed disclosing potentially favorable evidence for their defense.
Then, on appeal to the Court of Appeal from this "serious abuse of process" decried by the trial judge, another 35 Hells who had been found guilty of conspiracy to murder benefited from a significant reduction in their incarceration sentence , last summer.
About twenty of them were released from prison on the spot and the charges against several motorcyclists on the run were finally abandoned.
Full strength
The majority of the 80 members in good standing of the Hells are now at large. The police expect the management of the band to be taken by "pure wool" members after being assumed by former rock machines such as Salvatore Cazzetta as a result of Operation SharQc.
Having replenished their forces, the Hells reactivated four of their five chapters in Quebec and inaugurated a new section in New Brunswick.
The Hells are also assisted by many supporting clubs whose members get their hands dirty in their place in the "arm jobs" and other field crimes.
&#9830; In October, the head of the Sûreté du Québec, Prud'homme Martin, announced the Journal it would increase by about 30% the number of investigators in the fight brigades organized crime to deal with the rise of the Hells . The future will say whether it will be enough to contain them.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/06/17 01:52 PM

I respectfully disagree with Pierre (Laurentian) about the sicilians they are part of cosa nostra so the structure is still there if someone gets killed he will be replaced nothing changes.
Posted By: thebigfella

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/06/17 02:35 PM

When do Leonardo rizzuto trial starts?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/06/17 02:55 PM

Originally Posted By: Hollander
I respectfully disagree with Pierre (Laurentian) about the sicilians they are part of cosa nostra so the structure is still there if someone gets killed he will be replaced nothing changes.


I don't thing he was saying that there will be no structure at all within the Sicilian clan.
I believe what he is referring about is the structure in command which he compares to what Vito Rizzuto and Vincent Cotroni had. I think what he is saying is that there will be a change in custody of power but the Sicilian clan will still be there in my opinion but will not be as powerful as they were.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/06/17 03:19 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: Hollander
I respectfully disagree with Pierre (Laurentian) about the sicilians they are part of cosa nostra so the structure is still there if someone gets killed he will be replaced nothing changes.


I don't thing he was saying that there will be no structure at all within the Sicilian clan.
I believe what he is referring about is the structure in command which he compares to what Vito Rizzuto and Vincent Cotroni had. I think what he is saying is that there will be a change in custody of power but the Sicilian clan will still be there in my opinion but will not be as powerful as they were.


I agree they are weakened, but there are still so many left in Canada like the C untrera-Caruanas.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/06/17 04:10 PM

Who are the "calabrians" Laurentian is referring to though? He says the Montreal Mafia is done, and cites the lack of structure present during the reigns of Rizzuto & Cotroni. And he cites Lorenzo Giordano's death as one of those of the Sicilian clan, Giordano wasn't Sicilian and was an ally of Frank Arcadi & Francesco Del Balso from all I've assumed. And he writes as if Calabrians were not a part of the Montreal Mafia, when they in fact were, yet the Montreal Mafia is done, and the Calabrians are in a comfortable position to take power. Whom are these "Calabrians" are they 'Ndrangheta? Or are they the Calabrians and others of non-Sicilian descent, those whom were already a functioning part of the Montreal Mafia? Guys like Arcadi, etc.
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/06/17 04:17 PM

Once again, French Canadian media and police use terms like Calabrian and Sicilian factions to simplify things and make headlines.

It would be comparable to using Bloods vs Crips or Cali vs Medellin etc....There are various clans in Montreal operating and formerly, the inner circle of the Rizzuto family was in power, so most of those other clans would answer to them. Laurentian and others won't go into that detail when writing an article for the press.

It's easier and more eye-catchy to write Les Siciliens vs Calabrais.

Mirarchi-Desjardins-Di Maulo group was mixed, composing of multiple ethnicities, Calabrian, French, Irish, Sicilians.

Arcuri-Montagna group was also mixed but mostly Sicilian, fighting another Sicilian clan, the Rizzutos

The list goes on
Posted By: cdn_wiseguy

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/06/17 05:26 PM

Agreed. I hate the term Calabrian vs Sicilian. I think that term was more prominent when it was Violi vs Rizzuto 30 years ago.

Desjardins/Mirarchi/DiMaulo were mixed
Montagna/Arcuri/Gallo were mixed
Rizzuto/Sollecito/Arcadi/[BadWord] were mixed

Maybe they still use that term because one group had backing of Ontario Calabrians and the term indicates an international conflict? Montreal itself doesn't seem to align as easily as the media portrays it.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/06/17 06:26 PM

Some of you may have watched the video to which I've linked below when TVA Nouvelles had a report shortly after the murder attempt on Raynald Desjardins in September 2011.

http://www.tvanouvelles.ca/videos/1168533220001

I saw the news report live at the time, but this was only because I was scanning the French-language TV channels for information about the attempt. You may want to fast forward to the 1:40 mark to hear the two organized-crime experts give their take on why Desjardins was attacked.

Claude Poirier theorized that there was an attempt on Desjardins either because 1) Desjardins failed to defend the Rizzutos' interests when Vito was locked up, or 2) Desjardins did not want to pay some type of tribute to the new crime group hypothesized to have taken over in Montreal, a group that was supposedly based in Hamilton.

We are now fairly certain that the attack on Desjardins came from the Montagna camp (even though Montagna denied this), but if one day we ever find out that Poirier's second theory back in 2011 is true in whole or in part, this means that the Desjardins-Mirarchi group, which likely had backing from the GTA Siderno Group, was in conflict with Violi's sons and the others who backed the sons (given the Luppino-Violi group has likely never inducted people who weren't related to Giacomo Luppino by blood or marriage, the group has to be relatively small even today; if you don't agree, please provide some proof of this group's large size).

It took me a long time to accept that elements of the Siderno Group in the GTA were the Calabrians who got on board with Sal Montagna and Desjardins to decimate the Montreal Mafia's Sicilian leadership (Nick Rizzuto Sr., Paolo Renda, Agostino Cun trera). In my opinion, there has been relatively little information made available to the public about the possible involvement of Paolo Violi's sons in the mayhem when compared with the information about Siderno Group figures who appeared to have played a part in the turmoil.

The desire of Violi's sons to see Nick Sr., Renda, Cun trera, and Vito Rizzuto dead was probably nurtured from a young age, but the actual evidence is scant that the sons were involved in plotting murders of those first three names. Seems as though Violi's sons were passive and were probably more than glad to have other people kill the Sicilians rather than having to do so themselves. I know I'm not the only one who believes that if the sons wanted the Sicilians killed because of a "vendetta," there was no obligation on the sons' part to get permission to kill made men or pay others to do so. Therefore, the sons wouldn't even need to consult senior GTA Siderno Group figures, although it would have been a good idea. The Commisso brothers and other members of the GTA Siderno Group in the 1970s did not have a good relationship with Paolo Violi and Violi's brothers--Paolo Violi's death meant the removal of a significant rival. (Remember, that when Rosetta Commisso married Domenico Luppino in 1972, the Commissos intermarried with the Luppinos, not with the Violis.)

When we look at the information available to us at this point about Salvatore Calautti's or Nicola Cortese's possible involvement in the murder of Nick Sr., we know that law enforcement had to release Cortese because of a lack of evidence; that law enforcement didn't even have any proof that Calautti was in Quebec at the time of the murder; that the murder of Nick Sr. was a long-range shooting rather than what was reported in newspaper articles at the time and in the epilogue to Mafia inc.; and that despite Calautti's reportedly bragging that he killed Nick Sr., Toronto police believe that the sniper who killed crime figure Clinton Yow Foo in Toronto may have also killed Nick Sr.

The reports last December that Michel Cotroni and Domenico Violi (Paolo's older son) were among the approximately 20 guests who met at the Linguini restaurant last October were the first reports of any Cotroni ever being suspected of foul play in relation to the ongoing Montreal mob war. If there is an alliance in place between the Violi sons and the Cotronis, have law enforcement, certain crime reporters, and certain organized-crime authors been suggesting that this group was behind the murders of Rocco Sollecito, Lorenzo Giordano, and Vincenzo Spagnolo? behind the bungled attempt to murder old Cotroni-Violi group member Tony Vanelli? Would any new Cotroni-Violi alliance go after any old Cotroni-Violi group members who have either stayed neutral in the war or sided with the so-called le clan sicilien?
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/06/17 09:27 PM

Originally Posted By: cdn_wiseguy
The pick up in fire bombings and threats reminds me of the year leading up to Vito Rizzuto's release from prison. Vito's opponents were methodical, for the first few years, but just prior to his release things picked up. Opponents rushed and tried to fully have everything under control before he got out so that he couldn't mount a come back.


I noticed that too. A lot of firebombings aimed at predominantly Arcuri businesses that were attributed to the De Vito clan. A large chunk of that crew was busted just before Rizzuto returned.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/06/17 10:11 PM

I respectfully disagree with your analysis:

Claude Poirier's second theory is not valid and you admit it yourself, the attack came from the Montagna camp. Then you kind of lost me when you say in the next paragraph that if the second theory is true ? There is no proof that it is and I say also provide me the proof. With regards to Luppino not having a big family is subjective. Ndrangheta is based on blood ties and alliances made with other families and having marriage ties to the biggest Ndrangheta family in the GTA is proof enough that you don't mess with them. Then you lost me again when you talk about the marriage relation between the Luppino's and the Commisso's and make a distinction with the Violi's. The children from that marriage would make the Violi's cousins.
With regards to permission, Violi's alone would not be strong enough to take out a powerful clan like the Rizzuto's they would need the backing from the GTA and the coup would affect the GTA clans,that is why permission is needed.
In the Vanelli attempted murder, this could of come from other groups including the Rizzuto clan among others, we don't know.
I also don't find it a coincidence that different members from the Rizzuto rival clans visited Hamilton & Toronto Ndrangheta clans.
Why would they be consulting if not for the reason of collusion.
The Ndrangheta promotes expansion, that is why they are based in several countries and I do not see why they would hold back on Montreal. By the same token, I do not see the Sicilian clan go away because they believe in blood ties also and there are plenty living in Montreal and Laval to select new recruits. At the moment the momentum is not with them and there will probably be new people taking control or sharing the proceeds of crime with other OC groups which will include the Ndrangheta.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/06/17 11:49 PM

Originally Posted By: eurodave
Once again, French Canadian media and police use terms like Calabrian and Sicilian factions to simplify things and make headlines.

It would be comparable to using Bloods vs Crips or Cali vs Medellin etc....There are various clans in Montreal operating and formerly, the inner circle of the Rizzuto family was in power, so most of those other clans would answer to them. Laurentian and others won't go into that detail when writing an article for the press.

It's easier and more eye-catchy to write Les Siciliens vs Calabrais.

Mirarchi-Desjardins-Di Maulo group was mixed, composing of multiple ethnicities, Calabrian, French, Irish, Sicilians.

Arcuri-Montagna group was also mixed but mostly Sicilian, fighting another Sicilian clan, the Rizzutos

The list goes on


You're right, but we can always ask him to clarify. wink
I wonder if some of the factions are on speaking terms or if some people are trying to get the "Consortium" back in place.
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/07/17 12:15 AM

For what it's worth and I mean take this with a grain of salt, basically what the journal de montreal was saying about the Violi Cotroni meeting in October and their potential takeover is likely, from what I heard.

The Calabrians are apparently getting rid of anyone who gets in the way.
Posted By: Stu_Katz

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/07/17 01:56 AM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
Some of you may have watched the video to which I've linked below when TVA Nouvelles had a report shortly after the murder attempt on Raynald Desjardins in September 2011.

http://www.tvanouvelles.ca/videos/1168533220001

I saw the news report live at the time, but this was only because I was scanning the French-language TV channels for information about the attempt. You may want to fast forward to the 1:40 mark to hear the two organized-crime experts give their take on why Desjardins was attacked.

Claude Poirier theorized that there was an attempt on Desjardins either because 1) Desjardins failed to defend the Rizzutos' interests when Vito was locked up, or 2) Desjardins did not want to pay some type of tribute to the new crime group hypothesized to have taken over in Montreal, a group that was supposedly based in Hamilton.

We are now fairly certain that the attack on Desjardins came from the Montagna camp (even though Montagna denied this), but if one day we ever find out that Poirier's second theory back in 2011 is true in whole or in part, this means that the Desjardins-Mirarchi group, which likely had backing from the GTA Siderno Group, was in conflict with Violi's sons and the others who backed the sons (given the Luppino-Violi group has likely never inducted people who weren't related to Giacomo Luppino by blood or marriage, the group has to be relatively small even today; if you don't agree, please provide some proof of this group's large size).

It took me a long time to accept that elements of the Siderno Group in the GTA were the Calabrians who got on board with Sal Montagna and Desjardins to decimate the Montreal Mafia's Sicilian leadership (Nick Rizzuto Sr., Paolo Renda, Agostino Cun trera). In my opinion, there has been relatively little information made available to the public about the possible involvement of Paolo Violi's sons in the mayhem when compared with the information about Siderno Group figures who appeared to have played a part in the turmoil.

The desire of Violi's sons to see Nick Sr., Renda, Cun trera, and Vito Rizzuto dead was probably nurtured from a young age, but the actual evidence is scant that the sons were involved in plotting murders of those first three names. Seems as though Violi's sons were passive and were probably more than glad to have other people kill the Sicilians rather than having to do so themselves. I know I'm not the only one who believes that if the sons wanted the Sicilians killed because of a "vendetta," there was no obligation on the sons' part to get permission to kill made men or pay others to do so. Therefore, the sons wouldn't even need to consult senior GTA Siderno Group figures, although it would have been a good idea. The Commisso brothers and other members of the GTA Siderno Group in the 1970s did not have a good relationship with Paolo Violi and Violi's brothers--Paolo Violi's death meant the removal of a significant rival. (Remember, that when Rosetta Commisso married Domenico Luppino in 1972, the Commissos intermarried with the Luppinos, not with the Violis.)

When we look at the information available to us at this point about Salvatore Calautti's or Nicola Cortese's possible involvement in the murder of Nick Sr., we know that law enforcement had to release Cortese because of a lack of evidence; that law enforcement didn't even have any proof that Calautti was in Quebec at the time of the murder; that the murder of Nick Sr. was a long-range shooting rather than what was reported in newspaper articles at the time and in the epilogue to Mafia inc.; and that despite Calautti's reportedly bragging that he killed Nick Sr., Toronto police believe that the sniper who killed crime figure Clinton Yow Foo in Toronto may have also killed Nick Sr.

The reports last December that Michel Cotroni and Domenico Violi (Paolo's older son) were among the approximately 20 guests who met at the Linguini restaurant last October were the first reports of any Cotroni ever being suspected of foul play in relation to the ongoing Montreal mob war. If there is an alliance in place between the Violi sons and the Cotronis, have law enforcement, certain crime reporters, and certain organized-crime authors been suggesting that this group was behind the murders of Rocco Sollecito, Lorenzo Giordano, and Vincenzo Spagnolo? behind the bungled attempt to murder old Cotroni-Violi group member Tony Vanelli? Would any new Cotroni-Violi alliance go after any old Cotroni-Violi group members who have either stayed neutral in the war or sided with the so-called le clan sicilien?


Interesting theory, just wanted to that frank cotroni is married to the late Joe DImaulo's daughter.
Posted By: Stu_Katz

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/07/17 02:07 AM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
Originally Posted By: Hollander
Which part they came from is nice to know, but it doesn't really matter like it didn't matter Gotti was a neapolitan and his underboss Gravano a sicilian.


I understand what you mean, but the misinformation about where the past and present Montrealers descend is repeatedly spread through books, articles, blog posts, forums, tweets, etc.

If the D'Amicos, Piccirilli, Franco Mattoso, the Di Maulos, and others have been misidentified as Calabrians and continue to be, then we all have to revisit our theories and, perhaps, look for the nuances in the relationships between two or more mobsters, two or more Italian criminal groups, two or more mafia factions within a criminal group, and two or more mafie.


Bloodlines only went as far as Rizzuto's inner circle.As for the rest, being Sicilian wasn't a prerequisite. All types of Italians were involved. As they say no one's born into LCN, rather made.
The dranghetta is another animal all together for it is based bloodline ( being born one).That's what makes it more tough to crack.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/07/17 12:44 PM

Originally Posted By: eurodave
For what it's worth and I mean take this with a grain of salt, basically what the journal de montreal was saying about the Violi Cotroni meeting in October and their potential takeover is likely, from what I heard.

The Calabrians are apparently getting rid of anyone who gets in the way.


At the end everybody has to pick a side Rizzuto or Cotroni.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/07/17 01:27 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment

The Ndrangheta promotes expansion, that is why they are based in several countries and I do not see why they would hold back on Montreal.


We are already talking about 1000(!) locali world wide.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/07/17 05:05 PM

Originally Posted By: Stu_Katz
Originally Posted By: antimafia
Originally Posted By: Hollander
Which part they came from is nice to know, but it doesn't really matter like it didn't matter Gotti was a neapolitan and his underboss Gravano a sicilian.


I understand what you mean, but the misinformation about where the past and present Montrealers descend is repeatedly spread through books, articles, blog posts, forums, tweets, etc.

If the D'Amicos, Piccirilli, Franco Mattoso, the Di Maulos, and others have been misidentified as Calabrians and continue to be, then we all have to revisit our theories and, perhaps, look for the nuances in the relationships between two or more mobsters, two or more Italian criminal groups, two or more mafia factions within a criminal group, and two or more mafie.


Bloodlines only went as far as Rizzuto's inner circle.As for the rest, being Sicilian wasn't a prerequisite. All types of Italians were involved. As they say no one's born into LCN, rather made.
The dranghetta is another animal all together for it is based bloodline ( being born one).That's what makes it more tough to crack.



Not true. As seen with the Di Maulo/De Vito/Desjardins connection. Much of the core of that alliance was fueled by intermarriage, thus blood lines.



And I think Antimafia may be on to something. Would be really astonishing if the Cotroni sons in collaboration with the Violi kids, are the "Calabrians" some of these articles are referring to.
Posted By: pmac

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/07/17 05:30 PM

Say what you want about the usa lcn but i doubt they ever fire bombed a ladys hair salon to strike fear in the wives heads. Crazy low down shit. But usa dont fuck around with arson in federal court they smoke people for it.
Posted By: pmac

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/07/17 05:30 PM

Get less time shooting it up.
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/07/17 05:55 PM

More insight by Renaud on the latest molotovs:

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...61_section_POS5
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/07/17 05:59 PM

Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
Originally Posted By: Stu_Katz
Originally Posted By: antimafia
Originally Posted By: Hollander
Which part they came from is nice to know, but it doesn't really matter like it didn't matter Gotti was a neapolitan and his underboss Gravano a sicilian.


I understand what you mean, but the misinformation about where the past and present Montrealers descend is repeatedly spread through books, articles, blog posts, forums, tweets, etc.

If the D'Amicos, Piccirilli, Franco Mattoso, the Di Maulos, and others have been misidentified as Calabrians and continue to be, then we all have to revisit our theories and, perhaps, look for the nuances in the relationships between two or more mobsters, two or more Italian criminal groups, two or more mafia factions within a criminal group, and two or more mafie.


Bloodlines only went as far as Rizzuto's inner circle.As for the rest, being Sicilian wasn't a prerequisite. All types of Italians were involved. As they say no one's born into LCN, rather made.
The dranghetta is another animal all together for it is based bloodline ( being born one).That's what makes it more tough to crack.



Not true. As seen with the Di Maulo/De Vito/Desjardins connection. Much of the core of that alliance was fueled by intermarriage, thus blood lines.



And I think Antimafia may be on to something. Would be really astonishing if the Cotroni sons in collaboration with the Violi kids, are the "Calabrians" some of these articles are referring to.


It's more than likely a new consortium of factions. Remnants of Mirarchi, Desjardins, Di Maulo, Cotroni and Violi. Perhaps add the Scoppas to the mix.

Still not sure why the RCMP is saying that there's no sign of a mob war. There's at least enough violence as there was in 2010 with big names getting killed. Maybe they mean it's one sided, or maybe there's an unorganized reorganization taking place and it's still unclear who's going to be out on top, perhaps similar to the years between 2006 and 2010. We'll know more when Arcadi and Del Balso return to the streets.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/07/17 07:14 PM

Originally Posted By: pmac
Say what you want about the usa lcn but i doubt they ever fire bombed a ladys hair salon to strike fear in the wives heads. Crazy low down shit. But usa dont fuck around with arson in federal court they smoke people for it.


My bet is the wife just owned it in name only. I'd be surprised if women were piling in there getting their hair done.

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
There's at least enough violence as there was in 2010 with big names getting killed. Maybe they mean it's one sided, or maybe there's an unorganized reorganization taking place and it's still unclear who's going to be out on top, perhaps similar to the years between 2006 and 2010. We'll know more when Arcadi and Del Balso return to the streets.


Agreed. I mean someone like Rocco Sollecito, who was THE BIGGEST Rizzuto player on the street at the time, gets killed at the Mounties think there is no mob war? Doesn't make sense.

And man how long they going to hold Arcadi and Del Balso? They should be getting out any time soon. Anyone heard a date?
Posted By: pmac

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/07/17 07:33 PM

Yaeh dixie u rite. My girls tells me its cost her abouy 250$ for a cuttn color every few months. Thats a good way to wash some gambling proceeds and claims taxes on 20 chicks a day getn cutts n dyes. But tossing fire bombs at there shops is dry snitching. Seems like they just kill it other up there so why have the cops looking into the wives biz. But theres no rules up there seems anything goes in that war nothing off limits. And it goes back to them killing that last violi at his dinner table by a sniper. The same thing happens to nick rizzuto 30yrs later at his dinner table karmas a bitch.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/07/17 09:17 PM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black


It's more than likely a new consortium of factions. Remnants of Mirarchi, Desjardins, Di Maulo, Cotroni and Violi. Perhaps add the Scoppas to the mix.

Still not sure why the RCMP is saying that there's no sign of a mob war. There's at least enough violence as there was in 2010 with big names getting killed. Maybe they mean it's one sided, or maybe there's an unorganized reorganization taking place and it's still unclear who's going to be out on top, perhaps similar to the years between 2006 and 2010. We'll know more when Arcadi and Del Balso return to the streets.



Agreed.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/08/17 01:02 AM

Has it ever been confirmed that Angelo D'Onofrio was killed by mistake?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/09/17 12:00 PM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...une-semaine.php

Arson at hair salon again,a bakery,a dairy and a convenient store completely destroyed by fire. Hair salon is owned by the wife of Carmelo Cannistraro.
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/09/17 01:03 PM

Imagine all the poor mafioso wife's that have to cancel their appointments ;(
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/09/17 01:41 PM

What's worse is the mafioso that has to go home to his pissed off wife because she didn't get her hair done.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/09/17 01:51 PM

They seem to be very aggressive this time around. 2017....Four fires in nine days. From what the article says it looks like the strip mall was destroyed.

Someone read the book "The Prince"

"If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared."

Niccolo Machiavelli.
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/09/17 02:02 PM

It seems to revolve around the book, Carmelo has control or partial control of it and he may be one of the last pieces to the puzzle.

I was reading some old articles on Colisee and at one point Cannistraro and Del Balso gave Giordano a Ferrari 550 as a gift, circa 2003.

How times have changed....Cannistraro was def part of the inner circle
Posted By: cdn_wiseguy

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/09/17 04:10 PM

I think you're right Eurodave. Sounds like the group in opposition has not been able to get control of the book, which the Arcadi group seems to be in control of. The increase in attacks suggest that the opposition group is trying desperately to get their hands on the book before Arcadi and Del Baso get out of prison
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/09/17 04:22 PM

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...y-fire-in-laval

Here is another article. Damages look a lot more extensive.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/09/17 04:34 PM

That must be the book (mentioned in Business or Blood) Gallo had at one point which included info. on mortgages, financial records, banking information, names and addresses of gamblers and their parents and relatives.
This way they know who to go see if they don't pay up.
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/09/17 04:38 PM

It will be interesting who will get clipped next as all these molotovs are pointing in one direction.

How many big names are left?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/09/17 04:46 PM

I also remember reading in the book that Gallo had given this book to the Calabrians and other sports book operation had been given to Montagna.
When Rizzuto got out of prison the Calabrians(Ndrangheta) had given back that book to the Rizzuto's.

My point on this is, since it changed hands by so many, what stopped them from making copies of these book(s).
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/09/17 04:50 PM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...es-a-proces.php

The alleged Montreal mafia leaders cited at trial
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/09/17 05:34 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
I respectfully disagree with your analysis:

Claude Poirier's second theory is not valid and you admit it yourself, the attack came from the Montagna camp. Then you kind of lost me when you say in the next paragraph that if the second theory is true ? There is no proof that it is and I say also provide me the proof. With regards to Luppino not having a big family is subjective. Ndrangheta is based on blood ties and alliances made with other families and having marriage ties to the biggest Ndrangheta family in the GTA is proof enough that you don't mess with them. Then you lost me again when you talk about the marriage relation between the Luppino's and the Commisso's and make a distinction with the Violi's. The children from that marriage would make the Violi's cousins.
With regards to permission, Violi's alone would not be strong enough to take out a powerful clan like the Rizzuto's they would need the backing from the GTA and the coup would affect the GTA clans,that is why permission is needed.
In the Vanelli attempted murder, this could of come from other groups including the Rizzuto clan among others, we don't know.
I also don't find it a coincidence that different members from the Rizzuto rival clans visited Hamilton & Toronto Ndrangheta clans.
Why would they be consulting if not for the reason of collusion.
The Ndrangheta promotes expansion, that is why they are based in several countries and I do not see why they would hold back on Montreal. By the same token, I do not see the Sicilian clan go away because they believe in blood ties also and there are plenty living in Montreal and Laval to select new recruits. At the moment the momentum is not with them and there will probably be new people taking control or sharing the proceeds of crime with other OC groups which will include the Ndrangheta.


Ciment,

You seem to have written the above in anger and, as a result, quite possibly in haste.

Some posters get the impression from an earlier post of yours that only you and eurodave are qualified to reliably comment on the goings-on of organized crime in Quebec.

The post I've quoted above seems to be conveying to me and other posters that now we aren't allowed to comment on the goings-on of organized crime in Ontario, despite the fact some of us live in this province.

Giuseppe and Domenico Violi are indeed Rosetta Commisso's nephews. Other than Rosetta Commisso and Domenico Luppino's children, no one related to Rosetta is related to these Violis. Even if Rosetta were a sibling of Cosimo, Remo, and Michele Commisso, these Violis would not be related to the Commisso brothers. (Incidentally, the Commisso brothers' mother, Emilia, died in March 2015. All the obituaries and death notices I have read do not mention any children other than the three aforementioned brothers.)

By your logic, the Commissos would be related to the Rizzutos. But they are not.

I have more to write about the errors in your post, and the only way I can do that is to provide the evidence from a number of books and the odd French-language article. Stay tuned.
Posted By: mike68

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/09/17 05:44 PM

What if Joe Massino never flipped and Vito Rizzuto was never indicted on the three capos murder charges. What if Vito never left Montreal and received his cancer treatment in top notch Montreal hospitals rather than a Federal pen hospital. How many of these guys who have met their demise over the past ten plus years would still be alive right now? Most? All?
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/09/17 05:45 PM

I for one do not claim to have the answers and I think most of us know little at best.

That being said antimafia, while your knowledge and patience is impressive, it can be questioned or challenged.

Some us of live here, you live there, some of us also come from the old country and not everything we hear or see will be edited by the national post or montreal gazette.
Posted By: cdn_wiseguy

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/09/17 05:47 PM

Originally Posted By: eurodave
It will be interesting who will get clipped next as all these molotovs are pointing in one direction.

How many big names are left?




I don't know if these are considered big names, and I've probably missed a few as well because i'm doing this quickly and off the top of my head.

Rizzuto inner circle
-Leonardo Rizzuto
-Stefano Sollecito
-Giuseppe Sollecito
-Mario Sollecito
-Domenico Manno
-Liborio Manno
-Emanuele Ragusa
-Pat Ragusa
-Luigi Vella (son in law of e. Ragusa/bro. in law to nick jr.)
-Nicola Spagnolo

Others that could still support Rizzuto's
-Francesco Arcadi clan ( Francesco Del Baso, Stefano Arcadi,Giuseppe Torre, Carmelo Cannistraro, Girolamo Del Baso)
-Liborio [BadWord] clan
-Vito Salvaggio (not sure where he fits in with regards to clans/associates, but I think he is a supporter)
-Marco Pizzi (seems like he is being attacked due to his association with the book, which sounds like rizzuto's/sollecito still control.)

Who am I missing?





Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/09/17 07:27 PM

Di Maulo's brother?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/09/17 07:53 PM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
Originally Posted By: Ciment
I respectfully disagree with your analysis:

Claude Poirier's second theory is not valid and you admit it yourself, the attack came from the Montagna camp. Then you kind of lost me when you say in the next paragraph that if the second theory is true ? There is no proof that it is and I say also provide me the proof. With regards to Luppino not having a big family is subjective. Ndrangheta is based on blood ties and alliances made with other families and having marriage ties to the biggest Ndrangheta family in the GTA is proof enough that you don't mess with them. Then you lost me again when you talk about the marriage relation between the Luppino's and the Commisso's and make a distinction with the Violi's. The children from that marriage would make the Violi's cousins.
With regards to permission, Violi's alone would not be strong enough to take out a powerful clan like the Rizzuto's they would need the backing from the GTA and the coup would affect the GTA clans,that is why permission is needed.
In the Vanelli attempted murder, this could of come from other groups including the Rizzuto clan among others, we don't know.
I also don't find it a coincidence that different members from the Rizzuto rival clans visited Hamilton & Toronto Ndrangheta clans.
Why would they be consulting if not for the reason of collusion.
The Ndrangheta promotes expansion, that is why they are based in several countries and I do not see why they would hold back on Montreal. By the same token, I do not see the Sicilian clan go away because they believe in blood ties also and there are plenty living in Montreal and Laval to select new recruits. At the moment the momentum is not with them and there will probably be new people taking control or sharing the proceeds of crime with other OC groups which will include the Ndrangheta.


Ciment,

You seem to have written the above in anger and, as a result, quite possibly in haste.

Some posters get the impression from an earlier post of yours that only you and eurodave are qualified to reliably comment on the goings-on of organized crime in Quebec.

The post I've quoted above seems to be conveying to me and other posters that now we aren't allowed to comment on the goings-on of organized crime in Ontario, despite the fact some of us live in this province.

Giuseppe and Domenico Violi are indeed Rosetta Commisso's nephews. Other than Rosetta Commisso and Domenico Luppino's children, no one related to Rosetta is related to these Violis. Even if Rosetta were a sibling of Cosimo, Remo, and Michele Commisso, these Violis would not be related to the Commisso brothers. (Incidentally, the Commisso brothers' mother, Emilia, died in March 2015. All the obituaries and death notices I have read do not mention any children other than the three aforementioned brothers.)

By your logic, the Commissos would be related to the Rizzutos. But they are not.

I have more to write about the errors in your post, and the only way I can do that is to provide the evidence from a number of books and the odd French-language article. Stay tuned.


Antimafia,

Little that you know I still had respect for you up until you wrote that I was angry and in haste. I therefore am removing the word respectfully from my original post that I wrote to you. I do not know why you include Eurodave in a post that I wrote and he had nothing to do with it. Is it you that is angry ?
You can write all the errors you want your analysis is still flawed. You yourself just stated they are nephews. Make up your mind. Your splitting hairs here.
You also make statements having nothing to back it up but yet you want proof from others.
Furthermore this statement of yours "The post I've quoted above seems to be conveying to me and other posters that now we aren't allowed to comment on the goings-on of organized crime in Ontario, despite the fact some of us live in this province."

I stated in an earlier post that there are others on this forum that are also knowledgeable including myself and you. But yet you chose to ignore that.
In my opinion, for making such a statement,your nothing short of a liar and I have lost all respect for you.
Furthermore, eurodave has been nothing but polite with you and I say this on the record. It is you that can't accept other peoples opinions.

It is you that is angry and I think you and I both know why.





Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/09/17 08:01 PM

Originally Posted By: cdn_wiseguy
Originally Posted By: eurodave
It will be interesting who will get clipped next as all these molotovs are pointing in one direction.

How many big names are left?




I don't know if these are considered big names, and I've probably missed a few as well because i'm doing this quickly and off the top of my head.

Rizzuto inner circle
-Leonardo Rizzuto
-Stefano Sollecito
-Giuseppe Sollecito
-Mario Sollecito
-Domenico Manno
-Liborio Manno
-Emanuele Ragusa
-Pat Ragusa
-Luigi Vella (son in law of e. Ragusa/bro. in law to nick jr.)
-Nicola Spagnolo

Others that could still support Rizzuto's
-Francesco Arcadi clan ( Francesco Del Baso, Giuseppe Torre, Carmelo Cannistraro)
-Liborio [BadWord] clan
-Vito Salvaggio (not sure where he fits in with regards to clans/associates, but I think he is a supporter)
-Marco Pizzi (seems like he is being attacked due to his association with the book, which sounds like rizzuto's/sollecito still control.)

Who am I missing?







Quite a few names there although some are higher ranking than others.

It would be smart for the remnants of the sicilian clan to just keep operating under the new powers much like the Cotroni clan did and maybe one day, re-take the throne.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/09/17 08:12 PM

Originally Posted By: eurodave
I for one do not claim to have the answers and I think most of us know little at best.

That being said antimafia, while your knowledge and patience is impressive, it can be questioned or challenged.

Some us of live here, you live there, some of us also come from the old country and not everything we hear or see will be edited by the national post or montreal gazette.


Very good reply you are more of a gentleman than I am.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/09/17 08:42 PM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
Originally Posted By: Ciment
I respectfully disagree with your analysis:

Claude Poirier's second theory is not valid and you admit it yourself, the attack came from the Montagna camp. Then you kind of lost me when you say in the next paragraph that if the second theory is true ? There is no proof that it is and I say also provide me the proof. With regards to Luppino not having a big family is subjective. Ndrangheta is based on blood ties and alliances made with other families and having marriage ties to the biggest Ndrangheta family in the GTA is proof enough that you don't mess with them. Then you lost me again when you talk about the marriage relation between the Luppino's and the Commisso's and make a distinction with the Violi's. The children from that marriage would make the Violi's cousins.
With regards to permission, Violi's alone would not be strong enough to take out a powerful clan like the Rizzuto's they would need the backing from the GTA and the coup would affect the GTA clans,that is why permission is needed.
In the Vanelli attempted murder, this could of come from other groups including the Rizzuto clan among others, we don't know.
I also don't find it a coincidence that different members from the Rizzuto rival clans visited Hamilton & Toronto Ndrangheta clans.
Why would they be consulting if not for the reason of collusion.
The Ndrangheta promotes expansion, that is why they are based in several countries and I do not see why they would hold back on Montreal. By the same token, I do not see the Sicilian clan go away because they believe in blood ties also and there are plenty living in Montreal and Laval to select new recruits. At the moment the momentum is not with them and there will probably be new people taking control or sharing the proceeds of crime with other OC groups which will include the Ndrangheta.


Ciment,

You seem to have written the above in anger and, as a result, quite possibly in haste.

Some posters get the impression from an earlier post of yours that only you and eurodave are qualified to reliably comment on the goings-on of organized crime in Quebec.

The post I've quoted above seems to be conveying to me and other posters that now we aren't allowed to comment on the goings-on of organized crime in Ontario, despite the fact some of us live in this province.

Giuseppe and Domenico Violi are indeed Rosetta Commisso's nephews. Other than Rosetta Commisso and Domenico Luppino's children, no one related to Rosetta is related to these Violis. Even if Rosetta were a sibling of Cosimo, Remo, and Michele Commisso, these Violis would not be related to the Commisso brothers. (Incidentally, the Commisso brothers' mother, Emilia, died in March 2015. All the obituaries and death notices I have read do not mention any children other than the three aforementioned brothers.)

By your logic, the Commissos would be related to the Rizzutos. But they are not.

I have more to write about the errors in your post, and the only way I can do that is to provide the evidence from a number of books and the odd French-language article. Stay tuned.


Antimafia,

I checked the obituary and it mentions Cherished Nonna and Bis-Nonna.

And it doesn't mention whose kids they are.

Tell me antimafia is this another one of your lies ?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/09/17 08:53 PM

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/laval-rene-laennec-fire-businesses-vimont-1.3927074

More info on the fire.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/09/17 10:11 PM

Let's not start a mob war here. It might interfere with business (gaining knowledge/debating).
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/09/17 10:55 PM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Let's not start a mob war here. It might interfere with business (gaining knowledge/debating).


I will take your advise Sonny Black, for me the matter is closed.
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/09/17 10:56 PM

On a lighter note the salons Instagram page posted a pic 3 days ago at their other location saying that nobody can knock them down lol

Sure there buddy...lol
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/10/17 12:25 AM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Let's not start a mob war here. It might interfere with business (gaining knowledge/debating).


I will take your advise Sonny Black, for me the matter is closed.


Don't you want strict assurances from antimafia? I mean, as time goes by and his position grows stronger, he might attempt any individual vendetta.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/10/17 12:30 AM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Let's not start a mob war here. It might interfere with business (gaining knowledge/debating).


I will take your advise Sonny Black, for me the matter is closed.


Don't you want strict assurances from antimafia? I mean, as time goes by and his position grows stronger, he might attempt any individual vendetta.


LOL
Posted By: BillyBrizzi

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/10/17 12:55 AM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Let's not start a mob war here. It might interfere with business (gaining knowledge/debating).


I will take your advise Sonny Black, for me the matter is closed.


Don't you want strict assurances from antimafia? I mean, as time goes by and his position grows stronger, he might attempt any individual vendetta.


We are all honorable men here, we do not have to give each other assurances as if we were lawyers.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/10/17 03:12 AM

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/montreal-mafia-rizzuto-next-godfather-1.3927993

Assassinations, firebombs on rise as mobsters fight to be crowned Montreal's next godfather

Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/10/17 03:16 AM

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...ed-to-21-months

Lawyer sentenced for bribing RCMP.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/10/17 04:54 AM

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...angsterism-case

Alleged Montreal Mafia leaders opt for jury trial in gangsterism case.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/10/17 08:15 PM

That looks like a current mugshot of Leonardo, haven't seen that one before I don't think?

And I agree guys lets not go at it, this thread has been great so far and we don't need to tear each other up over something and ruin the whole deal for everyone involved.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/11/17 12:26 AM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: antimafia
Originally Posted By: Ciment
I respectfully disagree with your analysis:

Claude Poirier's second theory is not valid and you admit it yourself, the attack came from the Montagna camp. Then you kind of lost me when you say in the next paragraph that if the second theory is true ? There is no proof that it is and I say also provide me the proof. With regards to Luppino not having a big family is subjective. Ndrangheta is based on blood ties and alliances made with other families and having marriage ties to the biggest Ndrangheta family in the GTA is proof enough that you don't mess with them. Then you lost me again when you talk about the marriage relation between the Luppino's and the Commisso's and make a distinction with the Violi's. The children from that marriage would make the Violi's cousins.
With regards to permission, Violi's alone would not be strong enough to take out a powerful clan like the Rizzuto's they would need the backing from the GTA and the coup would affect the GTA clans,that is why permission is needed.
In the Vanelli attempted murder, this could of come from other groups including the Rizzuto clan among others, we don't know.
I also don't find it a coincidence that different members from the Rizzuto rival clans visited Hamilton & Toronto Ndrangheta clans.
Why would they be consulting if not for the reason of collusion.
The Ndrangheta promotes expansion, that is why they are based in several countries and I do not see why they would hold back on Montreal. By the same token, I do not see the Sicilian clan go away because they believe in blood ties also and there are plenty living in Montreal and Laval to select new recruits. At the moment the momentum is not with them and there will probably be new people taking control or sharing the proceeds of crime with other OC groups which will include the Ndrangheta.


Ciment,

You seem to have written the above in anger and, as a result, quite possibly in haste.

Some posters get the impression from an earlier post of yours that only you and eurodave are qualified to reliably comment on the goings-on of organized crime in Quebec.

The post I've quoted above seems to be conveying to me and other posters that now we aren't allowed to comment on the goings-on of organized crime in Ontario, despite the fact some of us live in this province.

Giuseppe and Domenico Violi are indeed Rosetta Commisso's nephews. Other than Rosetta Commisso and Domenico Luppino's children, no one related to Rosetta is related to these Violis. Even if Rosetta were a sibling of Cosimo, Remo, and Michele Commisso, these Violis would not be related to the Commisso brothers. (Incidentally, the Commisso brothers' mother, Emilia, died in March 2015. All the obituaries and death notices I have read do not mention any children other than the three aforementioned brothers.)

By your logic, the Commissos would be related to the Rizzutos. But they are not.

I have more to write about the errors in your post, and the only way I can do that is to provide the evidence from a number of books and the odd French-language article. Stay tuned.


Antimafia,

I checked the obituary and it mentions Cherished Nonna and Bis-Nonna.

And it doesn't mention whose kids they are.

Tell me antimafia is this another one of your lies ?


Ciment,

You are free to comment on anyone's posts, as am I. I hope you continue to comment on my posts because I will certainly continue to comment on yours. Any poster should feel comfortable commenting on the accuracy, veracity, and speculation found in another's post, as long as the commenting is done in a certain manner, i.e., is civil, respectful, non-shaming, etc.--this is an ideal when providing criticism of someone else's post, and I know that we posters often fall short.

I don't think you were trying to convey that you are going to be disrespectful to me in the future to the point that you would risk a temporary or permanent suspension from the board--I am not making a threat; nor am I giving you advice.

I've linked below to the page you either have in your files or may have come upon when you were searching for Emilia Commisso's obituary online:

http://demarcofuneralhomes.com/book-of-memories/2077380/Commisso-Emilia/obituary.php

If I am understanding you properly, you are suggesting or know for a fact that the Commisso brothers' children and grandchildren are related to Giuseppe and Domenico Violi. Should you not be correct, it's water under the bridge.

Should you be correct, I won't hesitate to apologize to you, not only because it's the right thing to do but also because a number of organized-crime authors and experts who have influenced my view of the relationship between the Commisso brothers and the Violi sons' father (Paolo) and uncles were either off the mark or caused me not to think of the possibility that the Commisso brothers would have better relations with Paolo's sons than with Paolo and his brothers.

In short, the tensions between the Commisso brothers and the Violis in the 1970s arose from 1) strongly differing opinions about Mommo Piromalli in Gioia Tauro, Reggio Calabria; and 2) the Siderno Group's being upset with Paolo Violi's having violated 'ndrangheta protocol when he enlisted a Siderno Group member in a caper in Toronto without first seeking permission. To this I might add, although the subject is different, that the Commissos' befriending Nick Rizzuto Sr. in the 1970s--especially after Paolo Violi was killed--must have been a supreme insult to the Luppino group in Hamilton.

Each 'ndrina looks after its own members first and foremost, even when it's part of a locale. What you consider to be splitting hairs, I consider to be crucial to figuring out why, over the GTA Siderno Group's 60-to-65-year history, certain 'ndrine in the group are aligned with other 'ndrine and with 'ndrine in Calabria (and now in other parts of Italy); why disagreements may erupt between individuals who are somehow related by blood or marriage; why the camera di controllo, or la commissione, is more a tool for dispute resolution than the coordination of what each 'ndrina does.

The Luppino-Violi group in Hamilton is a 'ndrina that is autonomous; so if Paolo Violi's sons wanted to kill the people who were involved in plotting their father's murder and who committed it, there has never been any necessity to get the okay from the more powerful Siderno Group in the GTA. The various 'ndrangheta groups in Ontario do not have to act--and should not act--as one man. But insofar as some of these disparate groups may have been or are collaborating together, say, for the takeover of the Montreal Mafia, disagreements or splits should not be surprising to anyone.

In my time I have made some embarrassing posts on this forum and others; below is a link to the post on this forum that caused me the most embarrassment afterward:

Oops!

I am certainly not above making factual errors in my posts but I will admit I am more prone to making poor predictions, as many of us have done during this Montreal mob war.

In the past 11 years there has been a treasure trove of information about the GTA Siderno Group for serious and recreational researchers. The GTA Siderno Group is the criminal group I spend the most time actually researching because you really have to do a lot of excavating in the Italian-language government documents and arrest warrants. The odd time, posters have asked me a question about the group on this forum, and I've tried my best to answer to the best of my ability. You have an avid interest in the 'ndrangheta groups in Ontario and in the scarce but historic presence of Siderno Group members in Quebec, as do I, so please don't hesitate to ask me about family trees, investigations targeting the Siderno Group, and anything else. For the past little while I have been working on constructing a tree for Paolo Violi and his family, and what struck me is how no organized-crime authors or reporters seem to have ever followed up on whatever happened to Rocco Violi's wife and her children--this is material for another thread; so I'll save the information for later.
Posted By: Giordano

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/11/17 01:59 AM

Great post as always antimafia. Your posts on mafia in Canada are by far and away the most researched and interesting on this forum.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/11/17 02:15 AM

AntiMafia,

I want you to know that my original post wasn't meant to be disrespectful. If it did then my apology; but believe me I had no intention to pick a fight. I always enjoyed reading your post even if we may disagree at times. We all make errors including myself and there is no shame in that. The benefit is that we can learn from them and be able to carry an amicable discussion.
I find it very admirable on your part to take the time to write this note.
I am looking forward for future discussions.

Regards
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/11/17 02:49 AM

Originally Posted By: Giordano
Great post as always antimafia. Your posts on mafia in Canada are by far and away the most researched and interesting on this forum.


Thanks for the kind words, Giordano. There are many posters on this forum who spend a lot of time researching their own areas of interest but aren't as long in the tooth as I am. :-)
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/11/17 02:55 AM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
AntiMafia,

I want you to know that my original post wasn't meant to be disrespectful. If it did then my apology; but believe me I had no intention to pick a fight. I always enjoyed reading your post even if we may disagree at times. We all make errors including myself and there is no shame in that. The benefit is that we can learn from them and be able to carry an amicable discussion.
I find it very admirable on your part to take the time to write this note.
I am looking forward for future discussions.

Regards



I too am looking forward to the discussions. If the mob war in Montreal were to end tomorrow, there would be countless hours I would still be spending on examining the roots and causes of the war, the relationships between mobsters, significant events, etc.

The common business interests that Raynald Desjardins and Domenico Arcuri Jr. still currently have is nothing short of astonishing, and a big credit goes to to Montreal Gazette reporter Linda Gyulai for her research and articles. I am finding this particularly fascinating.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/11/17 03:49 PM

Originally Posted By: Giordano
Great post as always antimafia. Your posts on mafia in Canada are by far and away the most researched and interesting on this forum.


An opinion I also share.


In what may be a completely unrelated matter, in fact I think it is, other than the acknowledgement of their being mafia in Ontario. Over the course of the extortion trial for Giuseppe D'Anna of Detroit, it came out that he and his brother, Girolamo routinely met mafia members from Ontario at a Sapori restaurant in Washington Township. Some of the matters presumably discussed was Girolamo taking over Giuseppe's position as captain, in an acting capacity, should Giuseppe have to serve time stemming from this recent trial. It's something interesting, as at the very least it still goes to show that a relationship exists between the Detroit Mafia and mob figures in Ontario. The D'Annas have familial ties to Terrasini & their local mafia, and their cousin is as of most recent news, possibly the current mafia boss of the town. It's said the D'Anna family still control the town though. The blood family itself, I mean. And Girolamo visited there for over a month, during his brothers trial. Nothing of real relevance to current going-ons in Montreal, but it's still interesting, at least I think.

Was the reason to release Sollecito early in relation to his health? Because other than that, I just can't see why they'd let Stefano out, if they really do care about these guys being targets for hits and such. Also quite interesting that they'd let him out amidst all this but kept Arcadi & Del Balso locked up, supposedly "for their own safety."
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/11/17 09:16 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
AntiMafia,

I want you to know that my original post wasn't meant to be disrespectful. If it did then my apology; but believe me I had no intention to pick a fight. I always enjoyed reading your post even if we may disagree at times. We all make errors including myself and there is no shame in that. The benefit is that we can learn from them and be able to carry an amicable discussion.
I find it very admirable on your part to take the time to write this note.
I am looking forward for future discussions.

Regards



Then we are agreed. The traffic in information will be permitted, but controlled, and Ciment will give up protection...

Wait, nevermind. blush
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/11/17 10:06 PM

With regards to the Luppino/Violi I agree with you that they are an autonomous Ndrine and in normal circumstances don't need permission.The reason why I felt that they needed permission is that the Violi's on their own could not win a war against the Rizzuto's based on their size and manpower. In order to mount an effective attack they would of needed to form a coalition with one or more Ndrangheta clan and therefore would not strike without their consent. I don't think a coalition with the Violi's and any other clan from Montreal would of been enough but this is just an opinion of mine.
The Violi son's had moved to Hamilton when their father was murdered and were raised by the Luppino's be it the grandfather Giocomo or the Luppino uncles.Their father's actions in the 70's in my opinion would not undermine the Violi sons relation with the Commisso's based on the fact the Luppino's raised them. When their uncle Domenico Luppino married Rosetta Commisso that put the Violi's sons in a favorable position with the Commisso's. From the Emilia obituary we know that great grand kids (Bis nonna) exist this is why I stated that the Violi's and I emphasize could be first cousins with Remo Commisso's grand kids. The possibilty is there but just based on the marriage alone is enough to benefit the Violi sons.
Another factor to consider was the good relationship Bruzzese/Coluccio had with Rizzuto. I know it later deteriorated but while it lasted attacking the Rizzuto's would of been a problem.

On another note I too wondered what has become of Rocco kids. There is not much talk about them. I also find they do not talk about the other three Paolo Violi brothers that lived in Ohio. I seen an obituary of one of them but the other two may still be alive.
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/11/17 11:48 PM

Does anyone know how many Violi sons remain active?

We know about Paolos two sons and I was reading about Roccos funeral and he had two sons of his own.

Did Francesco have sons?

The article mentioned that the three remaining brothers of Paolo lived in New York
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/12/17 12:13 AM

The three brothers lived in Parma Ohio near Cleveland whether they moved afterwards I do not know. One of the three died there of natural causes.
I do not know if Francesco had sons but he might of had a daughter. Back in the days they were pushing their own brand of coffee and it was named Nancy after the daughter.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/12/17 12:17 AM

http://www.upi.com/Archives/1980/10/24/D.../6800341208000/

More on Violi's
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/12/17 12:22 AM

http://obits.cleveland.com/obituaries/cl...1&fhid=2516

Here is the obituary
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/12/17 01:06 AM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: Ciment
AntiMafia,

I want you to know that my original post wasn't meant to be disrespectful. If it did then my apology; but believe me I had no intention to pick a fight. I always enjoyed reading your post even if we may disagree at times. We all make errors including myself and there is no shame in that. The benefit is that we can learn from them and be able to carry an amicable discussion.
I find it very admirable on your part to take the time to write this note.
I am looking forward for future discussions.

Regards



Then we are agreed. The traffic in information will be permitted, but controlled, and Ciment will give up protection...

Wait, nevermind. blush


Stop adding fuel to the fire..........LOL
Posted By: Stu_Katz

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/12/17 02:00 AM

Originally Posted By: Giordano
Great post as always antimafia. Your posts on mafia in Canada are by far and away the most researched and interesting on this forum.

I 2nd that, I don't post much, but I do find your posts good reading.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/12/17 12:56 PM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/01/12/les-champions-du-reglement-de-compte

The Hells Angels committed a quarter of organized crime murders in Quebec in 60 years.
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/12/17 01:19 PM

I see an odd resemblance between the biker war and recent mafia war in terms of longevity.

It took the Hells roughly 7-8 years to conclude and declare victory, hasn't this mafia war been going on for at least 7-8 years as well?

I wonder if back in the day, during the biker war, journalists and authors were claiming the demise of the bikers and their overall loss of influence as they're claiming for the montreal mafia today?


As for the Violis, the seem to have many sons left, how many are directly involved remains to be seen/
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/12/17 05:23 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment


This obituary that Ciment has shared has the correct information about the number of sons and daughters that Domenico Violi and Annunziata "Nancy" Condina had: seven sons (Paolo, Rocco, Francesco, Giuseppe, Vincenzo, Antonio, and Stefano) and one daughter (Francesca).

Of those children, per the obituary, only Antonio and Stefano survive. I recently recall reading one article written on the day of Rocco Violi's funeral or shortly thereafter that the only males surviving were the patriarch, Domenico, and Rocco's brother "Silvio"--this Silvio was identified as being 41 years old (which would make him, depending on his date of birth, 77 or 78 years old today). I have concluded the reporter got Stefano's name wrong by identifying him as "Silvio"; the reporter obviously also had an incomplete family tree.

eurodave and I likely read the same French-language article, about the funeral, in which the three surviving brothers were identified as living in New York. I will try to find the source in which I read that only the brothers who were involved in organized crime followed Paolo to Canada. (I'm not at home.)

Rocco Violi and his wife, Filomena, had three children: Domenico, Rocco, and Nancy. The two sons got mentioned in articles about the murder and the funeral at the time--the two sons still get mentioned--presumably because Domenico and Rocco were present when their father was murdered. A May 23, 1985 public notice about an auction sale for a particular building, owned by Rocco Violi in some capacity, mentions the 50% stake respectively held by both the three children (minors at the time) and an Antonietta Barbino. My guess is that this Antonietta would be related to Rocco, as the Violis' first cousin Domenico Barbino was involved in the kidnapping of John Paul Getty III in Rome in 1973.

The public notice and Filomena Violi's attempts between November 1980 and October 1996 to seek compensation from the Quebec government's victims' crime fund lead me to believe that she and her children continued to live in Quebec between at least November 1980 and May 1985. They may have lived in Quebec up to at least October 1996 and--who knows?--may still be living in the province.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/12/17 08:30 PM

http://montrealgazette.com/entertainment/rizzuto-the-tv-series-on-a-tv-screen-near-you-in-fall-2017

TV series on the Montreal OC.
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/12/17 09:02 PM

That should be interesting!
Posted By: Dwalin2011

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/13/17 04:39 AM


I will definitely watch it, but unfortunately we all know it will have an open ending with many plot holes and loose ends, there is no way to avoid it any more, the only possibility has been lost when the dumb judge didn't give Raynald Desjardins a life sentence, that could "stimulate" him to rat. He was the only one who "could" (theoretically at least) tell enough to clarify how things really went in details.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/13/17 04:30 PM

Not so sure about the casting. Vito was notably tall among other things. Both actors don't really look the part.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/14/17 02:06 PM

Un homme lié à la mafia tué à Montréal-Nord

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...ntreal-nord.php
Posted By: pmac

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/14/17 03:19 PM

You think after the other guys are sentenced for sal m murder theyll release all the blackberry text messasgrs. That should solve it all.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/14/17 03:46 PM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
Un homme lié à la mafia tué à Montréal-Nord

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...ntreal-nord.php


I guess the Rizzuto clan is not defeated after all.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/14/17 03:49 PM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Not so sure about the casting. Vito was notably tall among other things. Both actors don't really look the part.


Not only the height but the weight. La Paglia looks a lot heavier.
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/14/17 04:07 PM

When I saw the picture of the Grand Cherokee, I knew it was somewhat mob linked, the Grand Cherokee being a very common choice amongst mafiosi even though the area he was shot in has manyour street gang members.

Its also within a 2km radius of where Angelo Donofrio was killed and Emilio Cordileone was found dead.

I wouldn't jump to conclusions and declare it a Sicilian hit just yet
Posted By: cdn_wiseguy

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/14/17 04:09 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: antimafia
Un homme lié à la mafia tué à Montréal-Nord

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...ntreal-nord.php


I guess the Rizzuto clan is not defeated after all.


Agreed. I really don't think this is over yet. There are still a lot of guys left in the inner circle of the Rizzuto's along with clans that they can work with. Much like when Rizzuto was in prison, they had to weather the attacks and plan before hitting back.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/14/17 07:32 PM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
Un homme lié à la mafia tué à Montréal-Nord

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...ntreal-nord.php


That's what we need some Libanese in the mix.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/14/17 09:13 PM

http://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2017/01/14/un-homme-connu-des-policiers-assassine-a-montreal-nord

More on Ali Awada killing.

A man close to the mafia murdered in Montreal North
QMI Agency | Published on January 14, 2017 at 05:50 - Update At 10:46
The QMI agency has learned that the man murdered Friday night after being shot in the borough of Montreal North is Ali Awada,and he is well known to the police.

Shortly after 9 pm, citizens heard shots on Sabrevois Street, near Recollets Avenue, and called the police.

Upon arrival, the police found a man shot down by at least one firearm projectile lying on the ground. He was taken to the hospital, where his death was confirmed.

No suspects have been arrested for the moment.
The Montreal police confirmed that the 28-year-old murdered man was "known to police circles".
According to our sources, the 28-year-old man is called Ali Awada. He is the son of Mohamed Awada, a close friend of the Italian and Lebanese mafia murdered in front of his home in November 2012, on Leblanc Avenue, in Montreal North.

Among the 11 people accused in the case of the abduction in June 2008 of Nino de Bartolomeis, had a close relationship with the lieutenant of the mafia at the time, Francesco Arcadi .

Mohamed Awada was finally released in this kidnapping case.

In addition, Ali Awada was arrested in June 2014 as part of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) Clemenza project. He was suspected of having taken over from his father.

He also faced charges of arson fires in two Italian cafes in the Saint-Léonard borough in winter 2011 and for participating in a kidnapping allegedly commissioned by the Bastone brothers at the same time.

The Clemenza project was the result of nearly four years of investigation at the expense of two of the Montreal mafia's clans.

- With the collaboration of Maxime Deland.
Posted By: cdn_wiseguy

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/15/17 12:57 AM

I've heard the bastone brothers mentioned in the past, but I don't know a whole lot about them. Does anybody know any more details about them, like do they operate independently as their own clan or part of a clan? who works for them?
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/15/17 01:18 AM

I said in this very thread that I wouldn't count the Rizzuto's out, as did a few others. I immediately thought about this when reading that article and seeing the guy had ties to the De Vito group. This whole thing somewhat resembles what happened prior to Vito Rizzutos release from prison. Which tells me that it's possible that Arcadi & Del Balso are still loyal and still part of, or at least close to the remnants of the Rizzuto group. Let me highlight, that I'm not saying this is a fact, I'm just saying that it's possible.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/15/17 03:00 AM

Originally Posted By: cdn_wiseguy
I've heard the bastone brothers mentioned in the past, but I don't know a whole lot about them. Does anybody know any more details about them, like do they operate independently as their own clan or part of a clan? who works for them?


This article may answer some of your questions:
Daniel Renaud La Presse
Published February 4, 2015 at 11:01 | Updated on February 05, 2015 at 07:21
A major organized crime cell dismantled by the RCMP
Behind the scenes at the Montreal courthouse, lawyers were even talking about an "imminent strike" just last week. When would the next long awaited phase of the major RCMP Clemenza investigation take place?

The answer came yesterday. Early in the morning, investigators from the Joint Organized Crime Unit (UMECO) struck at residential gates, especially in the Montreal area, and notified four suspects already detained from the first phase last June That further charges would be brought against them.

In total, 15 people, including the alleged ruling heads, brothers Patrizio and Pasquale Silvano, aged 50 and 53 respectively, were arrested. Two suspects, Mathieu Bouchard and Mike Di Battista, were still being sought at the time of writing.

The apprehended individuals appeared by video conference at the Montreal Courthouse. They face a myriad of charges: gangsterism, conspiracy, import, possession and trafficking of cocaine, as well as trafficking in cannabis resin.

The suspects are accused of plotting with dozens of unidentified individuals with nicknames as colorful as Beluga, Cowboy, Spider, Free Tibet, Fish, Dog, Eskimos, Frenchi and Lobster, among others, Apparently appearing on hundreds of text messages exchanged by the suspects and intercepted by the investigators.
An ambitious clan

According to the police, the cell of the Silvano brothers attempted to take control of the distribution of cocaine in the Maritimes and part of the Montreal area and Ontario. It worked hand in hand with two other cells dismantled during the June 2014 strike, those of the brothers Bastone and the late lieutenant of the mafia Giuseppe De Vito, even exchanging henchmen. According to our sources, the Bastone brothers are very close to Vittorio Mirarchi, former protégé of Raynald Desjardins accused with his former mentor of the murder of aspirant-godfather Salvatore Montagna.

Moreover, among the individuals arrested yesterday, we find Steven Fracas, another of the co-accused of Mirarchi and Desjardins.

According to our sources, the cell of the Silvano brothers took over from the D'Amico family in the area of &#8203;&#8203;Granby, controlled territories in the sectors of Lachine and Ottawa and sold his drugs in Italian bars and cafes . His headquarters was a cafe on Jarry street, in the north of Montreal.
An ingenious process

One of the charges concerns an import of cocaine from Bogotá, Colombia. It is in fact a spectacular import of 10 kilos of cocaine mixed with asphalt powder, the seizure at the Montreal-Trudeau airport was announced by communique by the border services officers on October 26, 2011 In light of the events that occurred yesterday, there is reason to believe that Customs officers had received information from their federal colleagues in the RCMP.

The procedure to amalgamate the cocaine and the asphalt would have been developed by one of the defendants, Sébastien Flocari, true amateur chemist, and was intended to thwart sniffer dogs and mystify customs officers both Colombian and Canadian.

Cocaine, valued at 1.2 million, had been concealed in 10 bags of asphalt powder. It was intended for a company of refrigerated trailers, warehousing of all kinds and "import and distribution of raw materials" of Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu.

Although it is in its third round of arrests, the Clemenza investigation is continuing.

The Clemenza survey

In an investigation of drug importers Cynique, in 2010, RCMP investigators intercept conversations between one of the suspects, Piero Arena, and one of the Silvano brothers. The Cynic survey also allows investigators to target another individual, Giuseppe Collapelle, who communicates with Vittorio Mirarchi and Raynald Desjardins. The RCMP is launching the Clemenza investigation, targeting several Mafia cells that are taking advantage of the weakening of the Rizzuto clan to gain momentum. Raynald Desjardins and his protégé Vittorio Mirarchi are already in the crosshairs of the RCMP when the aspirant-godfather Salvatore Montagna was killed on 24 November 2011 in Charlemagne. The evidence gathered by the RCMP is shared with the SQ. Desjardins and its alleged accomplices were arrested a month later, in what is a first phase of the Clemenza investigation, but which is renamed Inertia. This resounding case, however, leads to delays in the continuation of the Clemenza investigation.

14 June 2014

The RCMP strikes the cells of Giuseppe De Vito, the Bastone brothers, and some collaborators of the Desjardins and Mirarchi clans. This is the first official phase of Clemenza.

4 February 2015

The RCMP moved into Phase 2 and did not rule out another strike.
People arrested
Giuseppe Arcoraci, 49 years old, Lasalle
Davide Barberio, 35 years old, Rivière-des-Prairies
Antonio Bastone, 52 years old, Saint-Jean-de-Matha
Roberto Bastone, 42 years old, Laval
Jocelyne Daoust, 58 years old, Blainville
Alain Duhamel, 58 years old, Blainville
Sébastien Flocari, 37 years old, Longueuil
Steven Fracas, 30, incarcerated
Mona Hrtschan, 50, address unknown
Artur Klodkowski, 38, incarcerated
Stéphan Parent, 47, incarcerated
Pasquale Silvano, 53 years old, Laval-des-Rapides
Patrizio Silvano, 50 years old, Laval-des-Rapides
Luigi Simeone, 44 years old, Montreal
Jenica Teleu, 56 years old, Laval-des-Rapides
Mathieu Bouchard ... - image 3.0
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Mathieu Bouchard

Suspects Still Wanted
Mathieu Bouchard, 37, address unknown
Mike Di Battista, 39, address unknown
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/15/17 04:44 PM

Seems like Pizzi related dealership hit again
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/15/17 04:46 PM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/01...cendie-criminel
Posted By: cdn_wiseguy

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/15/17 11:56 PM

Thanks Ciment. Interesting sentence regarding the Silvano brothers taking over for the D'Amico family in Granby. I wonder how that played out.
Posted By: cdn_wiseguy

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/15/17 11:57 PM



Pizzi again. lol... We should start a pool to see how long he lasts.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/15/17 11:59 PM

Originally Posted By: cdn_wiseguy
Thanks Ciment. Interesting sentence regarding the Silvano brothers taking over for the D'Amico family in Granby. I wonder how that played out.


The walked into Granby and said this is ours now. Then they got busted.
Posted By: cdn_wiseguy

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/16/17 12:02 AM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: cdn_wiseguy
Thanks Ciment. Interesting sentence regarding the Silvano brothers taking over for the D'Amico family in Granby. I wonder how that played out.


The walked into Granby and said this is ours now. Then they got busted.


Really? I hadn't heard that. D'Amico's were not intimidated at all by Arcadi. Did they put up a fight against the Silvano's?
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/16/17 12:37 AM

Originally Posted By: cdn_wiseguy
Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: cdn_wiseguy
Thanks Ciment. Interesting sentence regarding the Silvano brothers taking over for the D'Amico family in Granby. I wonder how that played out.


The walked into Granby and said this is ours now. Then they got busted.


Really? I hadn't heard that. D'Amico's were not intimidated at all by Arcadi. Did they put up a fight against the Silvano's?


All kidding aside, the senior D'Amico went back to Italy while I remember that his sons went living in the DR. Perhaps their former turf was up for grabs and the Silvano's stepped in.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/16/17 02:52 AM

Originally Posted By: cdn_wiseguy
Thanks Ciment. Interesting sentence regarding the Silvano brothers taking over for the D'Amico family in Granby. I wonder how that played out.


The Silvano brothers had caught my attention as well when I first read this article.There is not much written about them and yet according to Daniel Renaud they seem to control several areas.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/16/17 03:10 AM

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/nati...rticle22586192/

Patrizio D'Amico is mentioned in this article at the Dominican Republic.

Maybe leaving Granby was voluntary and the Silvano's are associates of theirs.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/16/17 04:29 AM

"Arsons, murders: power struggle in the mafia?"

http://www.iheartradio.ca/cjad/news/arsons-murders-power-struggle-in-the-mafia-1.2329095
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/16/17 01:49 PM

The mafioso would be hunted for six months by important actors of the crime with which he has incurred a debt following an import of drugs that went wrong.

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/01...cendie-criminel
Posted By: spartan

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/16/17 02:01 PM

Been a while since I posted here. Pretty crazy that the war is still on in Montreal.

I had stated in the past (years ago) that the Calabrians (criminal element) in the Greater Toronto Area were more numerous than people thought and people were trying to say on this forum and others that there were maybe 40-50 Ndrangheta in the GTA. Does anyone today actually believe there are only 40-50 Ndrangheta in the GTA?

If they've had any influence on the war in Montreal - which most people think they have - there has been very little retribution on them in the GTA.
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/16/17 02:28 PM

Of course....the same way Vitale said Montreal had about 20 made members or so

Considering how insular the Siderno group is,its not surprising people think there's only roughly 40 members
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/16/17 03:06 PM

The Siderno group doesn't make up the entirety of 'Ndrangheta groups in the GTA though, if I'm not mistaken.
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/16/17 03:22 PM

Siderno is loosely referred. Families come from competing villages
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/16/17 06:42 PM

Originally Posted By: Dwalin2011

I will definitely watch it, but unfortunately we all know it will have an open ending with many plot holes and loose ends, there is no way to avoid it any more, the only possibility has been lost when the dumb judge didn't give Raynald Desjardins a life sentence, that could "stimulate" him to rat. He was the only one who "could" (theoretically at least) tell enough to clarify how things really went in details.


I'll watch the show just to watch it. It is an interesting story and could be good if they do it right.

As for Desjardins, he could have gotten life and he wouldn't have flipped. It just ain't happening.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/16/17 07:01 PM

Originally Posted By: eurodave
The mafioso would be hunted for six months by important actors of the crime with which he has incurred a debt following an import of drugs that went wrong.

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/01...cendie-criminel


The article is short on details as to a possible motive as to why Pizzi, his businesses, and personal property have been attacked for such a long period of time, but are we to understand that the reason may have nothing to do with factional disputes but everything to do with his botching up of the drug importation?

Are the people attacking him part of the faction he is in?
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/16/17 07:28 PM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
Originally Posted By: eurodave
The mafioso would be hunted for six months by important actors of the crime with which he has incurred a debt following an import of drugs that went wrong.

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/01...cendie-criminel


The article is short on details as to a possible motive as to why Pizzi, his businesses, and personal property have been attacked for such a long period of time, but are we to understand that the reason may have nothing to do with factional disputes but everything to do with his botching up of the drug importation?

Are the people attacking him part of the faction he is in?


Not for nothing an RCMP officer stated that they didn't see evidence of a new mob war and that they believed these were a matter of internal purges. Could this mean that they are saying that there is infighting within the Sicilian faction? Arcadi vs. the round table?
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/16/17 07:34 PM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
Originally Posted By: eurodave
The mafioso would be hunted for six months by important actors of the crime with which he has incurred a debt following an import of drugs that went wrong.

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/01...cendie-criminel


The article is short on details as to a possible motive as to why Pizzi, his businesses, and personal property have been attacked for such a long period of time, but are we to understand that the reason may have nothing to do with factional disputes but everything to do with his botching up of the drug importation?

Are the people attacking him part of the faction he is in?


When the Rizzutos had problems with the D Amicos, the dispute lasted quite along time before it was potentially resolved. Maybe thats why they haven't killed him yet?

Large drug seizures and debts can definitely result in some serious repercussions by suppliers and wholesalers

What would you do if someone owed you millions in drug money ?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/16/17 09:08 PM

Whether this war is internal or not, if they are smart they should stop. All they are doing is weakening themselves to the point that the HA will be there to pick up the pieces.
I came across a book that I bought called " The Road to Hell" print 2003.
The book is about the Hells conquering Canada. There is a passage revealed by an informant working for the Hells that Mom Boucher wanted to wage a war with the Italians after they were done fighting with the Rock Machine. If true it goes to show you what their objectives were back then. Will the Cazzetta's and their cronies aspire to the same objective is something to think about ? Moms idea was to eliminate competition in the drug trade and the Italians, according to him, were their biggest competitors. He went as far as sending someone to film people going in and out of a Cotroni funeral.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/16/17 10:08 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
Whether this war is internal or not, if they are smart they should stop. All they are doing is weakening themselves to the point that the HA will be there to pick up the pieces.
I came across a book that I bought called " The Road to Hell" print 2003.
The book is about the Hells conquering Canada. There is a passage revealed by an informant working for the Hells that Mom Boucher wanted to wage a war with the Italians after they were done fighting with the Rock Machine. If true it goes to show you what their objectives were back then. Will the Cazzetta's and their cronies aspire to the same objective is something to think about ? Moms idea was to eliminate competition in the drug trade and the Italians, according to him, were their biggest competitors. He went as far as sending someone to film people going in and out of a Cotroni funeral.


It's interesting and I think the Hells have the manpower to do it. However, the Italians in Montreal have connections all over the world. Politically and economically they are far more powerful than the bikers. The Italian Mafias control a large chunk of the global drug trade and they have very good relationships with the South American cartels and other suppliers. If the bikers annihilate the Mafia in Montreal who wants to do business with them? Not to mention the potential vendettas from the Mafia's associates and vast families. This is a fantasy that you'll only see happening in Marvel comics.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/16/17 10:30 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
Whether this war is internal or not, if they are smart they should stop. All they are doing is weakening themselves to the point that the HA will be there to pick up the pieces.
I came across a book that I bought called " The Road to Hell" print 2003.
The book is about the Hells conquering Canada. There is a passage revealed by an informant working for the Hells that Mom Boucher wanted to wage a war with the Italians after they were done fighting with the Rock Machine. If true it goes to show you what their objectives were back then. Will the Cazzetta's and their cronies aspire to the same objective is something to think about ? Moms idea was to eliminate competition in the drug trade and the Italians, according to him, were their biggest competitors. He went as far as sending someone to film people going in and out of a Cotroni funeral.


Ciment,

Do you remember in which book there was a passage about a Hells Angels leader in Quebec -- Normand Robitaille, I think -- having met Vito Rizzuto at a restaurant in the early 2000s? The meeting was wiretapped. During the meeting, Rizzuto told the HA leader that if the Angels crossed Rizzuto, the mafia would give them more trouble than the Hells had seen with the Rock Machine.

Back in the early 2000s, I think Rizzuto's statement would have been true. I no longer think it's true because the Montreal Mafia organization, as you write, is being weakened.
_______________

On another topic, one that has been discussed in this thread and others, did anyone think that the following part of the article written by one of the Business or Blood co-authors in February 2015 (a few weeks after the publication of the book) seems odd now? (The article was published on Jerry Capeci's ganglandnews.com site.)

The crime family that Vito Rizzuto left behind after his sudden death 14 months ago remains relatively intact and is still the dominant underworld force in Montreal today. Its leaders are mostly Sicilians and are primarily in their forties and early 50s, and they have mended their connections to the 'Ndrangheta cells in Toronto.
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/16/17 10:44 PM

Great posts antimafia.

It would seem that when they released that article, it was mostly accurate as we saw with the arrests or the table set up by Rizzuto, handing down the crown to second and third generation mafiosi.

I guess most of us didn't expect the challenge to come so soon, the deaths and violence to erupt once more
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/16/17 11:12 PM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
Originally Posted By: Ciment
Whether this war is internal or not, if they are smart they should stop. All they are doing is weakening themselves to the point that the HA will be there to pick up the pieces.
I came across a book that I bought called " The Road to Hell" print 2003.
The book is about the Hells conquering Canada. There is a passage revealed by an informant working for the Hells that Mom Boucher wanted to wage a war with the Italians after they were done fighting with the Rock Machine. If true it goes to show you what their objectives were back then. Will the Cazzetta's and their cronies aspire to the same objective is something to think about ? Moms idea was to eliminate competition in the drug trade and the Italians, according to him, were their biggest competitors. He went as far as sending someone to film people going in and out of a Cotroni funeral.


Ciment,

Do you remember in which book there was a passage about a Hells Angels leader in Quebec -- Normand Robitaille, I think -- having met Vito Rizzuto at a restaurant in the early 2000s? The meeting was wiretapped. During the meeting, Rizzuto told the HA leader that if the Angels crossed Rizzuto, the mafia would give them more trouble than the Hells had seen with the Rock Machine.

Back in the early 2000s, I think Rizzuto's statement would have been true. I no longer think it's true because the Montreal Mafia organization, as you write, is being weakened.
_______________

On another topic, one that has been discussed in this thread and others, did anyone think that the following part of the article written by one of the Business or Blood co-authors in February 2015 (a few weeks after the publication of the book) seems odd now? (The article was published on Jerry Capeci's ganglandnews.com site.)

The crime family that Vito Rizzuto left behind after his sudden death 14 months ago remains relatively intact and is still the dominant underworld force in Montreal today. Its leaders are mostly Sicilians and are primarily in their forties and early 50s, and they have mended their connections to the 'Ndrangheta cells in Toronto.


It was the sixth family page 312.
In the book road to hell Mom Boucher did consider that they would be tougher but his long term plan was to wage war with the Italian but he said for the moment he will deal with them through diplomacy.
I believe he really thought he was indestructible.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/16/17 11:27 PM

I agree the article written by the Business or Blood author does seem out of place now. Even us on this forum our theories or analysis on this war keeps on evolving.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/16/17 11:45 PM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: Ciment
Whether this war is internal or not, if they are smart they should stop. All they are doing is weakening themselves to the point that the HA will be there to pick up the pieces.
I came across a book that I bought called " The Road to Hell" print 2003.
The book is about the Hells conquering Canada. There is a passage revealed by an informant working for the Hells that Mom Boucher wanted to wage a war with the Italians after they were done fighting with the Rock Machine. If true it goes to show you what their objectives were back then. Will the Cazzetta's and their cronies aspire to the same objective is something to think about ? Moms idea was to eliminate competition in the drug trade and the Italians, according to him, were their biggest competitors. He went as far as sending someone to film people going in and out of a Cotroni funeral.


It's interesting and I think the Hells have the manpower to do it. However, the Italians in Montreal have connections all over the world. Politically and economically they are far more powerful than the bikers. The Italian Mafias control a large chunk of the global drug trade and they have very good relationships with the South American cartels and other suppliers. If the bikers annihilate the Mafia in Montreal who wants to do business with them? Not to mention the potential vendettas from the Mafia's associates and vast families. This is a fantasy that you'll only see happening in Marvel comics.


You make an interesting point also. All I am saying is that there is another enemy the Montreal mafia has to worry about.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/16/17 11:56 PM

Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
Originally Posted By: Dwalin2011

I will definitely watch it, but unfortunately we all know it will have an open ending with many plot holes and loose ends, there is no way to avoid it any more, the only possibility has been lost when the dumb judge didn't give Raynald Desjardins a life sentence, that could "stimulate" him to rat. He was the only one who "could" (theoretically at least) tell enough to clarify how things really went in details.


I'll watch the show just to watch it. It is an interesting story and could be good if they do it right.

As for Desjardins, he could have gotten life and he wouldn't have flipped. It just ain't happening.


Whether your for or against,I agree with you he ain't flipping. He is one tough of a S.O.B

This guy was waging war and at the same time he manages to take a vacation to Italy and plan for his daughter's wedding.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/17/17 12:05 AM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: antimafia
Originally Posted By: Ciment
Whether this war is internal or not, if they are smart they should stop. All they are doing is weakening themselves to the point that the HA will be there to pick up the pieces.
I came across a book that I bought called " The Road to Hell" print 2003.
The book is about the Hells conquering Canada. There is a passage revealed by an informant working for the Hells that Mom Boucher wanted to wage a war with the Italians after they were done fighting with the Rock Machine. If true it goes to show you what their objectives were back then. Will the Cazzetta's and their cronies aspire to the same objective is something to think about ? Moms idea was to eliminate competition in the drug trade and the Italians, according to him, were their biggest competitors. He went as far as sending someone to film people going in and out of a Cotroni funeral.


Ciment,

Do you remember in which book there was a passage about a Hells Angels leader in Quebec -- Normand Robitaille, I think -- having met Vito Rizzuto at a restaurant in the early 2000s? The meeting was wiretapped. During the meeting, Rizzuto told the HA leader that if the Angels crossed Rizzuto, the mafia would give them more trouble than the Hells had seen with the Rock Machine.

Back in the early 2000s, I think Rizzuto's statement would have been true. I no longer think it's true because the Montreal Mafia organization, as you write, is being weakened.
_______________

On another topic, one that has been discussed in this thread and others, did anyone think that the following part of the article written by one of the Business or Blood co-authors in February 2015 (a few weeks after the publication of the book) seems odd now? (The article was published on Jerry Capeci's ganglandnews.com site.)

The crime family that Vito Rizzuto left behind after his sudden death 14 months ago remains relatively intact and is still the dominant underworld force in Montreal today. Its leaders are mostly Sicilians and are primarily in their forties and early 50s, and they have mended their connections to the 'Ndrangheta cells in Toronto.


It was the sixth family page 312.
In the book road to hell Mom Boucher did consider that they would be tougher but his long term plan was to wage war with the Italian but he said for the moment he will deal with them through diplomacy.
I believe he really thought he was indestructible.


I forgot that the meeting--and in particular the comment by Rizzuto--was discussed in The Sixth Family. Looking in that book, I am starting to remember where else I think I saw mention of the interaction: a book about Dany Kaye.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/17/17 12:43 AM

I had forgotten too until you mentioned it.
The book I just bought has several passages of Dany Kane. He was the informant I was talking about earlier.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/17/17 12:18 PM

http://www.lapresse.ca/international/ame...s-quebecois.php

Five Killed in Mexico. One Canadian,an Italian and a Colombian among the victims. Bar owned by Quebecers.

Paragraph translated from article:

"According to our sources and some information from the Magot-Mastiff survey, which decapitated Montreal organized crime in November 2015, Grégory Sénécal, 39, is co-owner of the popular discotheque. Mr. Sénécal was reportedly seen in the company of gang leader Gregory Woolley, who is one of the main individuals arrested and charged in the wake of Magot-Mastiff. Mr. Woolley is still being held in custody and is accused, among other things, of gangsterism and conspiracy with former Hells Angels warrior Maurice Mom Boucher to assassinate Raynald Desjardins."
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/17/17 12:42 PM

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/world/...-del-carmen-res

http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/mexican-town-fears-nightclub-shooting-means-drug-war-has-come-1.3244044



Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/17/17 01:23 PM

Rizzuto-Sollecito headquarters in Laval molotved....again.

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...en-de-laval.php
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/17/17 05:21 PM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...uisitionnee.php

Salvatore Scoppa residence raided.
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/17/17 06:22 PM

Interesting timing wouldn't you say?

Molotov this morning, recent arsons and murders...
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/17/17 07:08 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
Whether your for or against,I agree with you he ain't flipping. He is one tough of a S.O.B

This guy was waging war and at the same time he manages to take a vacation to Italy and plan for his daughter's wedding.


Yep it's crazy. Not to mention an attempt on his life in the process. Gotta give those Canadians (Sicilian, Calabrian or home bred) some credit, they are getting hardcore up there.

It's like they are all walking around with guns and molotovs up there. Real life GTA lol
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/18/17 11:58 AM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/01...nce-dun-mafioso

More on the police raid on Salvatore
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/18/17 01:35 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment


What I find interesting is the constant movement between Montreal and South America. It's a great way to build rapport with cocaine producers while hiding from any potential danger back home.

kind of reminds me of Rizzuto in the 70's when he fled to Venezuela.....
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/18/17 02:55 PM

I knew the Scoppas would be revealed to be some big players within the Montreal Milieu, at least as far as drugs may go, and of course if you have a constant link to South America, and a steady flow of drugs coming in, your power starts to grow in other areas. I agree his movements is definitely reminiscent of Nick Sr and his relations with South American cartels after he joined the Caruana-C-u-n-trera's in Venezuela. But it seems this raid had to do with a murder, anyone know who he's suspected of having murdered and if it has anything to do with the current going on's in Montreal? Whats also interesting is that the authorities don't see this as a mob war, but an internal conflict, like many of us were theorizing earlier before changing our opinions based on what was occurring. If it really is Arcadi & his group against the new consortium of leaders, or "roundtable", then wow, is all I can say.


And speaking on that recorded meeting with Vito & Robatile or however you spell his name, it's interesting that Vito brought Mucci along to that meeting. As I guess at that time with Vito around, Mucci's loyalty wasn't in question.
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/18/17 03:04 PM

Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
I knew the Scoppas would be revealed to be some big players within the Montreal Milieu, at least as far as drugs may go, and of course if you have a constant link to South America, and a steady flow of drugs coming in, your power starts to grow in other areas. I agree his movements is definitely reminiscent of Nick Sr and his relations with South American cartels after he joined the Caruana-C-u-n-trera's in Venezuela. Very interesting stuff.


And speaking on that recorded meeting with Vito & Robatile or however you spell his name, it's interesting that Vito brought Mucci along to that meeting. As I guess at that time with Vito around, Mucci's loyalty wasn't in question.


I remember hearing their name for the first time over ten years ago, more specifically Andrew. At the time, they had serious clout within Montreal and very few messed with them, including bikers or rival mobsters.

I would imagine that their influence over the last decade has grown due to all the arrests, murders and take-overs by rivals.

It would be interesting to see who they're allies are within Montreal and outside of Montreal

It's clearly an internal thing, but it was also very internal during 09-2013 as well ,with multiple groups vying for power.

Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/18/17 03:54 PM

Originally Posted By: eurodave
Originally Posted By: Ciment


What I find interesting is the constant movement between Montreal and South America. It's a great way to build rapport with cocaine producers while hiding from any potential danger back home.

kind of reminds me of Rizzuto in the 70's when he fled to Venezuela.....


I agree, many of them end up going on so called "vacations trips" to Mexico, Dominican republic,Colombia not to mention a few others. I guess like in any business you have to have close contacts with your suppliers and all. With a price on his head it makes it much harder for his enemies to track him down.As long as he doesn't make the same mistake like Gallo by staying at one place.
They mention the purpose of the raid may be for a murder case. I would imagine it must be for a recent murder. Wonder who?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/18/17 04:06 PM

Originally Posted By: eurodave
Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
I knew the Scoppas would be revealed to be some big players within the Montreal Milieu, at least as far as drugs may go, and of course if you have a constant link to South America, and a steady flow of drugs coming in, your power starts to grow in other areas. I agree his movements is definitely reminiscent of Nick Sr and his relations with South American cartels after he joined the Caruana-C-u-n-trera's in Venezuela. Very interesting stuff.


And speaking on that recorded meeting with Vito & Robatile or however you spell his name, it's interesting that Vito brought Mucci along to that meeting. As I guess at that time with Vito around, Mucci's loyalty wasn't in question.


I remember hearing their name for the first time over ten years ago, more specifically Andrew. At the time, they had serious clout within Montreal and very few messed with them, including bikers or rival mobsters.

I would imagine that their influence over the last decade has grown due to all the arrests, murders and take-overs by rivals.

It would be interesting to see who they're allies are within Montreal and outside of Montreal

It's clearly an internal thing, but it was also very internal during 09-2013 as well ,with multiple groups vying for power.



Yes he was in the news years ago,he made his mark when stepping over HA turf. HA complained and Gallo was send there to smooth things down with HA. That's when boundaries were determined.
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/18/17 04:17 PM

Andrew seems to have more clout and respect within the milieu.

Could the murder be about Campellone?
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/18/17 04:27 PM

Reading this thread back, from page 2 and 3 onwards, it's funny how much of this was called, and how early theories, are now resurfacing as supposed fact. Specifically this whole situation being internal.
Posted By: Uncle_June

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/18/17 05:00 PM

I have a feeling that it is more likely related to this case than Campellone's.

https://gangstersout.blogspot.ca/2013/06/another-mafia-murder-in-montreal.html?m=1
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/18/17 07:10 PM

Originally Posted By: eurodave
Originally Posted By: Ciment


What I find interesting is the constant movement between Montreal and South America. It's a great way to build rapport with cocaine producers while hiding from any potential danger back home.

kind of reminds me of Rizzuto in the 70's when he fled to Venezuela.....


I believe the Scoppas get their coke from the Sinaloa cartel, at least Andrew's associate Jimmy Cournoyer did.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/18/17 07:22 PM

Originally Posted By: Uncle_June
I have a feeling that it is more likely related to this case than Campellone's.

https://gangstersout.blogspot.ca/2013/06/another-mafia-murder-in-montreal.html?m=1


I agree.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/18/17 10:03 PM

Originally Posted By: Hollander
Originally Posted By: Uncle_June
I have a feeling that it is more likely related to this case than Campellone's.

https://gangstersout.blogspot.ca/2013/06/another-mafia-murder-in-montreal.html?m=1


I agree.


Seems like it yes. It could be totally unrelated to the current mayhem even though the timing is interesting.
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/18/17 11:33 PM

@Eurodave


Great observation on South America. I don't know if it's possible, (Because of the consequences of a Globalized drug market..) to fully understand the power structure in Ontario without knowing WHO is connected in South America...
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/18/17 11:34 PM

@Sonny


I thought the Hells had their own direct connections to Colombian Cartels?

I could have sworn I've seen others post on it, is this wrong guys?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/19/17 12:40 AM

Originally Posted By: CabriniGreen
@Sonny


I thought the Hells had their own direct connections to Colombian Cartels?

I could have sworn I've seen others post on it, is this wrong guys?


Your right Cabrini they did,in 1997 Montreal HA president Mom Boucher had an emissary Guy Lepage that did business with the Mejia Twins drug cartel in Colombia.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/19/17 12:14 PM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: Hollander
Originally Posted By: Uncle_June
I have a feeling that it is more likely related to this case than Campellone's.

https://gangstersout.blogspot.ca/2013/06/another-mafia-murder-in-montreal.html?m=1


I agree.


Seems like it yes. It could be totally unrelated to the current mayhem even though the timing is interesting.


Makes sense, although they are influential there were never signs they were involved in the major hits last year.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/20/17 08:07 PM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
This past October, Franco Roberti--Italy's national antimafia and antiterrorism public prosecutor--along with a delegation of Italian judges who are part of La Commissione Parlamentare Antimafia (the Italian Parliament's antimafia commission), visited Canada for a series of meetings with Canada's Minister of Justice and other counterparts.

Roberti and the delegation were told that between 2009 and the current year, there were 20 crimes in Canada attributed to clashes between mafia groups (mostly 'ndranghetisti versus Siclians) and to clashes between 'ndrangheta factions vying for control of both illicit and legal activities.

Link to Italian-language article published two days ago:

http://www.ansa.it/legalita/rubriche/spe...48c492c538.html


Franco Roberti is mentioned in the Italian-language article to which I've linked below. The article was published online today.

Il Canada è diventato il paradiso dei mafiosi
http://espresso.repubblica.it/inchieste/...3319?refresh_ce

Like many Italian-language articles written about the Montreal mob war, this article is essentially presented as a Sicilians-versus-Calabrians battle for control of the Montreal underworld, using the murders of Rocco Sollecito and Carmine Verduci as a framework, and concluding that the 'ndrangheta will not be stopped in its attempt to take over. The reporter has at least made the effort to present competing theories about certain events. This part of the article is what I found most intriguing:

Dissidi, forse alla base dell’agguato a Verduci, scoppiati dalla scoperta di un inatteso legame tra Ciccio Formaggio e uomini dell’odiato clan Rizzuto. Su questa ipotesi stanno lavorando anche i nostri specialisti antimafia. Che, ora, metteranno alla prova la controparte canadese dopo la firma delle linee guida volute da Franco Roberti. “The Animal”, colpito dal fuoco di due padrini emergenti che mirano a prendersi anche il Québec, cioè Montréal, la città dove Cosa nostra è più forte e il tessuto economico più florido.

The first sentence above indicates that one possible reason for the murder of Verduci was an unexpected link he had with men from the Rizzuto clan. The fourth sentence indicates that Verduci ("The Animal)" was shot as a result of two emerging godfathers (candidates?) who also have their sights set on taking over Montreal.

Last year, on another forum, either eurodave, Hollander, or I posted a link to an Italian-language article that indicated Rocco Sollecito had tight links to 'ndrangheta clans whose origins are in the Locride (an area in the province of Reggio Calabria)--here's the link to that article:

http://www.rivieraweb.it/la-‘ndrangheta-vuole-tutto-dopo-toronto-montréal

I am of the belief that Verduci had tight links to Agostino Cun-trera but I have never been able to confirm this. As an aside, I did read in the Operazione Il Crimine arrest warrants that Giuseppe Coluccio first sought refuge in Quebec in 2005 before making his way to Ontario, where he lived till his arrest in 2008. The ties that Sollecito is reported to have with the Commisso clan in Italy were also confirmed in the same warrants, as were the ties that Vito Rizzuto, Nick Rizzuto Sr., Paolo Renda, Francesco Arcadi, Sicilian traffickers in Ontario, and the Caruan-Cun-trera group had to the same clan.

The two emerging godfathers ("due padrini emergenti") could be a reference to the Figliomeni brothers who are thought to have ordered Verduci's murder, but I am also wondering whether this could be a reference to Francesco Arcadi and Francesco Del Balso.

The reporter may also be insinuating that Verduci and Sollecito had tight links.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/20/17 09:04 PM

For what it's worth, there are also one or more articles published at the time of Verduci's death stating that he had ties with or had sided with Salvatore Montagna.

With all these theories and sometimes contradicting statements it's hard to believe what is true and what isn't.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/20/17 09:15 PM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
For what it's worth, there are also one or more articles published at the time of Verduci's death stating that he had ties with or had sided with Salvatore Montagna.

With all these theories and sometimes contradicting statements it's hard to believe what is true and what isn't.


Did the articles state who were Verduci and Montagna's enemies? Or only that those two had been working together before Verduci's death?
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/20/17 10:04 PM

Thanks for that great article..what I got from it is that Verducis behaviour and connections to the Rizzuto clan were bothering local ndrangheta bosses, potentially the figliomenis
Posted By: BillyBrizzi

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/20/17 10:53 PM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
For what it's worth, there are also one or more articles published at the time of Verduci's death stating that he had ties with or had sided with Salvatore Montagna.

With all these theories and sometimes contradicting statements it's hard to believe what is true and what isn't.


That's the trouble I have with this Montreal war. I'm reading Business or Blood at the moment and it's all hypothesis and assumptions. As long as no major guys on both sides flip, we will never know the real story..
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/21/17 01:30 AM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
For what it's worth, there are also one or more articles published at the time of Verduci's death stating that he had ties with or had sided with Salvatore Montagna.

With all these theories and sometimes contradicting statements it's hard to believe what is true and what isn't.


Did the articles state who were Verduci and Montagna's enemies? Or only that those two had been working together before Verduci's death?


Here's at least one article that states:

During the fight to steal turf from Rizzuto, police say Verduci was part of a group that became involved with Sal Montagna, head of the Bonanno crime family of New York City.

https://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2014/04/25/suspected_mob_hitman_gunned_down_in_woodbridge.html

As of now, the theory that Verduci was killed as part of a fued between the Figliomeni and Coluccio clans still seems the most viable to me.

If it was in any way linked to Rizzuto in Montreal, perhaps that than also means that Coluccio had good ties with the Rizzutos. It would make sense given the fact that Coluccio is the son-in-law of Bruzzese and was supposedly close with Joe [BadWord]. Something to think about.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/21/17 04:12 AM

https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2012/...limbo_here.html


I also am in agreement that Verduci was killed because of an existing feud between Figliomeni and Colluccio. The Italian article,although I find it to be well written & interesting, for the most part is basically a summary of what was said in other news sources or by book authors. Verduci association with Rizzuto would not be surprising considering the fact that Bruzzese had good relations with the Rizzuto's as did the Coluccio's with the Cun trera's. Their relations may have deteriorated while Vito was imprisoned for they saw an opportunity to expand.

In the article above Bruzzese is quoted as saying in 2009:

"Bruzzese can be heard exchanging gossip and complaints about upcoming weddings and telling Commisso about “disagreements” and messy infighting within various clans."

The infighting existed well before Verduci got killed.

This my take on it but I don't dispute that some of theories expressed by some of you to be also possible.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/22/17 02:24 AM

For what it's worth the Figliomenis are problaby related to former Siderno mayor Alessandro Figliomeni. Carmine Verduci was from another town Oppido Mamertina.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/22/17 03:16 PM

http://www.timescolonist.com/news/unsett...perts-1.8336459

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...ontrealaise.php

Unsettled Montreal Mob leadership means arson and reprisals to continue: experts -
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/22/17 10:16 PM

I'd say a rather good but vague summary of current events.

There's a desire to get rid of the old regime and make a democratic pluralistic mafia within montrea, maybe similar to what they have in Toronto or New York where multiple families and leaders operate.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/23/17 12:29 PM

Originally Posted By: eurodave
I'd say a rather good but vague summary of current events.

There's a desire to get rid of the old regime and make a democratic pluralistic mafia within montrea, maybe similar to what they have in Toronto or New York where multiple families and leaders operate.



If so that will be the end of Cosa Nostra.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/23/17 04:32 PM

Originally Posted By: Uncle_June
I have a feeling that it is more likely related to this case than Campellone's.

https://gangstersout.blogspot.ca/2013/06/another-mafia-murder-in-montreal.html?m=1


Hard to get behind the stuff written here, with so many of the topic titles and photos to accompany them seem kind of tongue in cheek humor. IE. The "Cosmo The Clown" article.

Not saying this is the case, just what it looks like to me.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/25/17 05:35 PM

The police raid on Salvatore Scoppa could be linked to a double homicide. More details to come....

Felix Seguin TVA news
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/26/17 01:00 PM

https://news.vice.com/fr/article/une-petite-histoire-de-la-mafia-de-montreal

A small history on the Montreal mafia.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/26/17 02:18 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
The police raid on Salvatore Scoppa could be linked to a double homicide. More details to come....

Felix Seguin TVA news


Could be linked to the two brothers who disappeared last year?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/26/17 03:33 PM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: Ciment
The police raid on Salvatore Scoppa could be linked to a double homicide. More details to come....

Felix Seguin TVA news


Could be linked to the two brothers who disappeared last year?


Yeah your probably right, the Falduto brothers. That got me thinking, their bodies haven't been found so whatever the cops have can't be physical evidence.
Either someone saw the kidnapping or has become an informant.

This journalist was to get back with more details but hasn't up to now. He just kept us hanging.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/26/17 04:45 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment


The former RCMP analyst quoted, who is also an organized-crime author coming out with a new book later this year, has maintained that whichever individual is successful in assuming the Montreal Mafia godfather role will have to be someone from Montreal, born and bred in Montreal, and so on. For this reason, a number of years ago this author dismissed the idea that someone like Sal Montagna would have been successful in assuming the role; yet the same author has given hints he may be open to the idea that Paolo Violi's sons (likely the older one) aspire to that role. Funnily enough, both Montagna and the Violi sons were born in that city, and I think that all three of those individuals had been more familiar with Quebec's organized-crime landscape than one would be led to believe.

The author also thinks the Hells Angels in Quebec are taking a neutral position in the mob war.

Contrast those opinions with those spelled out by Antonio Nicaso in the article to which I've linked below.

https://news.vice.com/fr/article/pourquoi-mafia-de-montreal-est-elle-en-guerre

Nicaso doesn't see the conflict in Montreal as a Sicilian—Calabrian rivalry. Unlike the aforementioned author, Nicaso speculates that the Quebec Hells may have struck an alliance with the Ontario 'ndrangheta and that this alliance is either supporting or financing the efforts of a rebel Montreal faction. Nicaso entertains the idea of a confederation of Italian crime groups running the Italian underworld in Montreal.

What do posters think about the notion that there has to be a single individual who, through the force of his personality, will, and muscle, will impose himself as the godfather of the Montreal Mafia?

Do posters think that the Quebec Hells backed Vito Rizzuto and Rizzuto loyalists before Rizzuto's death and then afterward for about two years before breaking the alliance?

The Siderno Group in the GTA has not always had a good relationship with outlaw bikers in Ontario--the most evidence we have, and it might not be sufficient, is the fallout from the Commisso brothers' hiring of former Satan's Choice biker Cecil Kirby in the late 1970s and early 1980s, as Kirby chose to become an informant. A glimpse into Remo Commisso's attitude toward bikers will be found in Peter Edwards's 2013 book, Unrepentant: The Strange and (Sometimes) Terrible Life of Lorne Campbell, Satan's Choice and Hells Angels Biker--both Commisso and Campbell were in the same prison, and Commisso just hated the bikers there. The book indicates that the Hells in the GTA appeared to think Peter Scarcella was an important figure--someone to seek permission from--but then again, Scarcella has always been under the Commissos' thumb.

On the other hand, Jimmy Luppino (the uncle of Violi's sons) was very much respected by Ontario Hells Angels, some of whom attended his funeral back in 2009. Violi's sons seemed to have expanded the Luppino group's activities in an important way in the 1990s by getting into drug trafficking; so perhaps Violi's sons and the whole Luppino-Violi group have better connections to the Ontario Hells than the GTA Siderno Group does. But even if there isn't a good relationship, the more important consideration is whether there are good connections with the Quebec Hells--either directly or, as a result of links with Italian groups or figures in Montreal, indirectly.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/26/17 05:00 PM

I don't know if I can see a single guy whom can be charismatic and strength possessing to maintain being the only guy on top and run everything in Montreal. Outside of Vito Rizzuto (Who even had his father and surrounding family), we haven't seen it work. I don't know if I necessarily believe Nicaso's theory, but it's plausible. However I do believe that at the end of the day, it'll be almost like a confederacy, a group of guys whom control the Montreal Mafia.


John Dubros book Mob Rule covers Cecil Kirby a little bit. And he told pretty much every single thing he was asked to do by Cosimo, and Remo too. I can see why the bikers wouldn't be trusted I guess by those who came immediately after them, but there time was long ago, I'd be surprised if that still held relevancy, like you said.
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/26/17 05:21 PM

I guess a more valid question would be the following:

Did the bikers support the initial attack on the Rizzutos in 09-13?

Are the bikers really that involved in matters between Italians?

Likewise, are the Italians also interested or involved in biker affairs?
Posted By: pmac

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/26/17 05:51 PM

Me n my buddy had a convo about the trump wall going up probaly gonna make the coke routes down south all fucked up so there fighting in montreal cause it will be the number 1 gateway for coke to come into the usa. Just a guess.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/26/17 07:08 PM

Originally Posted By: pmac
Me n my buddy had a convo about the trump wall going up probaly gonna make the coke routes down south all fucked up so there fighting in montreal cause it will be the number 1 gateway for coke to come into the usa. Just a guess.


That's an interesting theory, but you have to wonder whether these guys were taking Trump's statement serious. I wasn't to be honest, but so far it seems like he's going to stick to his plans.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/27/17 02:11 AM

I am more inclined to support Nicaso's theory of a confederation of Montreal Italian crime groups which I think, will also include one or more Ndrangheta clan(s)and a weakened Sicilian clan among them. I can't see a single Mafia godfather scenario happening but I do see one emerging as a dominant group sharing power with others.
With regards to Rizzuto alliance with the HA. I find that alliance was deteriorating prior to Vito's arrest. The D'Amico feud was not handled well,I believe had Vito not been imprisoned, that feud would of been settled amicably. The D'Amico's being allies of HA did not help the relationship. Furthermore, Sergio Piccirilli (a childhood friend of Sal Cazzetta HA president) getting involved in the feud also did not help matters.
As the war progressed they tried appointing interim leaders to lead the mafia on a number of occasions but failed to rally the different factions. This failure was also illustrated by the number of meetings the Mafia, street gangs and HA had to have in order to settle disputes without success. It was posted in some articles that the HA were not pleased with the interim leaders of Stefano Sollecito and Leonardo Rizzuto.
I also believe that when Rizzuto came out of jail, even though HA relations were strained but not broken, Rizzuto still managed to revive an alliance with HA in Montreal and even met with the London ON, HA in the Republic Dominican. We do know that HA Mom Boucher & Leonardo Rizzuto conspired to murder of Raynad Desjardins. Up until this point HA was still in business with the Rizzuto clan.
With Rizzuto death and no one able to succeed him, it became more apparent for HA to back the rivals. It is sometime after the police raids of Nov. 2015 & arrests of Leonardo Rizzuto and others that I think the Ndrangheta may have made an alliance with HA but at this point it is just a theory.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/27/17 03:00 AM

With regards to the Commissos hating the bikers. Rizzuto also hated the bikers, didn't like to be seen with them. He would most of the time send Raynald Desjardins to meet with them but he still did business with them.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/27/17 04:32 AM

https://t.co/khPQpw75z6

Nicaso Interview
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/27/17 10:55 AM

@ Pmac

Actually Pmac is onto something there... It's something I've touched on before.... With the border politics being what they are currently, and when NORMALIZED relations with Cuba happen, reopening the Caribbean route, like YOU HAVE TO PAY ATTENTION TO THIS STUFF TO UNDERSTAND what's happening in NY and Canada, and even Italy.

It's something I was trying to get you guys to look at before.

THINK ABOUT IT: What does it mean to Ndrangheta if a Mexican cartel gets a foothold in Europe?

What does it mean for the Mexican cartels if the primary route for coke into the US reverts back to the Caribbean, and the end points of this route are controlled by Calabrians? ( In both NY, where the Mexican presence is not so strong, and Canada..)

Now look at the NY arrest in THAT context. ( with the Mexicans based in Costa Rica as opposed to the border...) Look at Canada in THAT CONTEXT. ITS ALL ABOUT THE DRUG ROUTES. Whoever is in control of the routes runs the Mafia.

This is why in another thread I asked if the Zetas were even still a cartel, it's going to get more expensive to send coke over the border, and with drones and shit, maybe easier than ever to spot, actually. We'll see...

I know y'all seen some of Hollanders post? 8 tons of coke seized in Colombia. So much coke in the Netherlands they have to have OPEC style meetings to control prices. I think North America is becoming more and more important to the Calabrians, as Europe becomes totally saturated, And North America means New York as a transshipment point, Ontario and Montreal as territories/control centers.


Here a few questions I got guys, is Montreal a transhipment point to Europe, or are they MOVING COKE IN MONTREAL?

Would coke go from Colombia, TO Montreal, DOWN TO NY? ( This is why the Dominican Republic route is attractive I suspect..) Or would they send coke FROM Europe TO Montreal? Basically what conduit does Montreal coke come from?
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/27/17 11:43 AM

They have so many options to get it to the east coast market with the container Ports of New York, Philly and Baltimore. In recent years Miami also became more important like in the past.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/27/17 12:24 PM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...e-de-guerre.php

CONFLICT WITHIN THE MAFIA
CLAN LEADERS TRY TO BURY THE HATCHET
DANIEL RENAUD
LA PRESSE Jan.27,2017

Several meetings have been held since the end of last fall between clan leaders and influential individuals linked to the Montreal and Toronto mafias with the aim of ending the bloody conflict that undermines the Italian organized crime of the metropolis of Quebec since a dozen years, learned the Press .

These efforts would, however, be jeopardized, at least for the moment, by the obstinacy of the last members of the Sicilian clan, in particular the one considered by the police until the fall of 2015 as one of the leaders of the Montreal mafia, Stefano Sollecito.

According to police and criminal sources, he would refuse to cede certain illegal activities, including the lucrative book sports betting, whose revenues would allow him to continue to battle and finance certain operations.

It is particularly in this context that two hairdressing salons belonging to the wife of the manager of sports betting of the mafia were the target of incendiaries in Laval at the beginning of the month.

"Sollecito does not want to hand over the book of bets. There are currently contracts on the heads of several people. It is he who is the cause of the continuation of the war ", told La Presse a police source very familiar with the matter.

Since the murder of Giovanni Bertolo in August 2005 - regarded by the police as the triggering event - the power struggles of the various factions of the Montreal mafia would be the motive of at least 35 murders, ten murder attempts or attacks, according to a tally of La Presse .

The last victim of these internal conflicts is Ali Awada, 28, killed in Montreal-North on January 13. According to the police, Awada was close to the Scoppa and Sucapane clans.

VISITORS FROM TORONTO
But since late fall, police have repeatedly observed individuals linked to the Toronto Mafia come to Montreal and participate in meetings. The influential and independent Montreal clan leader Andrew Scoppa reportedly took part in one of them last December. It seems that even individuals who have been associated directly and have been always with the former Rizzuto clan militate for peace.

"Toronto has always played a role. Remember that on his return from the United States in 2012, Vito Rizzuto first visited the Queen City. Montreal mafia clan leaders have strong ties with Toronto, "says a criminal.

"In the last 30 years, Sicilians, Calabrians, everyone was connected. There are more whites, Blacks, Yellow, everyone works together, "said this week in La Presse a man near the criminal world.

"War must stop, it's not good for business. Fathers and sons die, women and children are in mourning. "

- A man close to the criminal milieu

The table of direction of the mafia set up after the natural death of the godfather Vito Rizzuto no longer exists. Observers from the police and criminal communities believe that a possible peace would lead to a new mafia alliance composed of representatives from the Calabrian, Sicilian and other branches rather than the advent of a new sponsor and a new dominant family. This future alliance would work in partnership with the Hells Angels, who for the moment at least would not intend to get involved in the problems of the mafia.

"Never will anyone come from elsewhere, from Ontario, New York or Italy, to lead the Montreal mafia, it would not happen. There are too many strong men here to let this happen, "added our close interlocutor, suggesting that if Toronto mafios meet with their counterparts here in Montreal, it will not be in the lead role. The future will tell, observers believe. observers.

ORGANIZED CRIME
STEFANO SOLLECITO
DANIEL RENAUD
LA PRESSE
Until Operation Magot de la SQ, which decapitated Montreal organized crime on November 19, 2015, Stefano Sollecito was considered by the police as one of the leaders of the mafia, along with Leonardo Rizzuto, the son of the late sponsor . He has since been accused of conspiracy and gangsterism, but has been released pending further legal proceedings. He is the son of Rocco Sollecito, former number 3 of the Sicilian clan, killed in Laval in May 2016. Stefano Sollecito suffers from a serious illness.

ORGANIZED CRIME
ANDREW SCOPPA
DANIEL RENAUD
LA PRESSE
He is currently considered by the police to be one of the most influential clan leaders in the Montreal mafia. According to our sources, he was reportedly seen with individuals from Toronto at a meeting to bring peace, which was held in Montreal last December. Scoppa could however have a sword of Damocles over his head. Last fall, he was arrested by the Sûreté du Québec in connection with a major seizure of cocaine, but has still not been charged.

ORGANIZED CRIME
LIBORIO [BadWord]
DANIEL RENAUD
LA PRESSE
He is the son of Agostino [BadWord], nicknamed the lord of Saint-Léonard, murdered before his company John & Dino in Saint-Léonard, in June 2010. The [BadWord] have been associated for decades with the Rizzuto clan but Liborio [BadWord], aka Pancho , Would militate now to bring peace to the factions. [BadWord] is accused of conspiracy to traffic cocaine and cocaine trafficking following his arrest in May 2016 in the latest wave of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police's Clemenza investigation.

ORGANIZED CRIME
GIANPIETRO TIBERIO
DANIEL RENAUD
LA PRESSE
At the head of a towing company, Gianpietro Tiberio is considered by the police to be a rising star of organized crime in Montreal. It would be linked to the mafia, but would be even closer to the Hells Angels. Tiberio, whose castle would be the Rivière-des-Prairies district in eastern Montreal, would also militate for peace, sources said.

ORGANIZED CRIME
ANTONIO PIETRANTONIO AND THE ARCURI BROTHERS
DANIEL RENAUD
LA PRESSE
These three individuals formerly associated with the Rizzuto clan would seek to take up more space, according to sources from the police and criminal circles. Pietrantonio was the victim of an attempted murder in December 2011. He had close ties with influential members of the Hells Angels. The names of brothers Antonino and Domenico Arcuri were cited during the work of the Charbonneau commission. Associés of Raynald Desjardins in the late 2000s, they quarreled with the latter when a conflict broke out among the clans who tried to overthrow the Rizzuto in 2010.

ORGANIZED CRIME
VITTORIO MIRARCHI, RAYNALD DESJARDINS AND ALESSANDRO SUCAPANE
DANIEL RENAUD
LA PRESSE
The three allies are in prison or in the penitentiary, but will continue to pull some strings, according to our information. Sources believe they may be involved in some events that have shaken the mafia in recent months. Others believe that they have placed themselves a little apart, waiting for the rest of things. But everyone agrees on a fact: they should not be taken for granted.
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/27/17 01:06 PM

Ciment great find!

I think the article sums it up extremely well, dont you?

It basically sheds some light on the Toronto link and again confirms the level of importance the GTA mafia, which consists of Ndrangheta and Cosa Nostra cells, has become over the last decade or so.

I remember someone telling me that Vito went their first for a reason, and when he met or communicated with people from the Siderno group, they told him, do what you must do and bring peace back to the city.

The article also links Scoppa to meetings with Toronto mobsters as recent as December.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/27/17 03:06 PM

Originally Posted By: eurodave
Ciment great find!

I think the article sums it up extremely well, dont you?

It basically sheds some light on the Toronto link and again confirms the level of importance the GTA mafia, which consists of Ndrangheta and Cosa Nostra cells, has become over the last decade or so.

I remember someone telling me that Vito went their first for a reason, and when he met or communicated with people from the Siderno group, they told him, do what you must do and bring peace back to the city.

The article also links Scoppa to meetings with Toronto mobsters as recent as December.



I agree, the decision making is in the GTA.The Siderno and mafia groups from Toronto/GTA will decide the faith of what is happening in Montreal. The same will hold true for the HA bikers. There are more chapters in Ontario than anywhere else in Canada. Yes Vito went to the GTA first,so did Montagna and other leaders of crime organizations.
Toronto, in my opinion, has become the capital of organized crime in Canada.
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/27/17 03:13 PM

Some on the forum find it hard to believe that the GTA has become that important.

Toronto and Ontario are the economic capital of Canada
It's the most populated province
It's also the most wealthy
The Italian population in Ontario is nearly triple the size compared to Quebec, therefore the criminal element is not insignificant
The pentito Costa claimed that the ndrangheta now has the power in Canada, which evidently is playing a role in Montreal as they seek to stabilize the province.

The GTA families don't necessarily need or want to control Montreal but they will definitely have interest in the port and distribution networks as they can benefit from multiple access points which will benefit them and the cosa nostra.

Toronto has also demonstrated a more relaxed and less turbulent relationship between elements of cosa nostra from Palermo-Siculiana and various Ndrangheta cells.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/27/17 04:18 PM

There wasn't anything in Project MAGOT-MASTIF that pointed to Leonardo Rizzuto having involvement in the Boucher attempt on Desjardins. From what was said about it, in the indictment, was that Boucher was going through his daughter, who then would go to Woolley, whom would then facilitate said orders on the street. It's possible Leonardo could've had involvement but neither he nor Stefano were ever stated by authorities to have been involved. Either way, the arrest of Cazzetta along with Cavaliere, Sollecito, Rizzuto & Woolley, and the specific pyramid chart that had him as the money man of the operation, there was still a relationship between the Rizzuto group & The HA's. I'm not willing to believe just yet that the HA's have cut all ties and just jumped ship to some 'Ndrangheta groups.


And Renaud seems to believe Stefano Sollecito is continuing this war by himself through his refusal to cede control of some lucrative sports betting to his enemies. He also might be alluding to the "enemies" being the ones who may have these contracts hanging over their heads, that is further implicated in the mention of Ali Awada being the latest among the casualities , and his link to the Scoppa & Sucapane clans. If i'm interpreting the article correctly, and I may not be, then wouldn't that mean the demise of the remaining clan of Rizzuto was somewhat exaggerated, if the belief is that Stefano Sollecito is the one whos making this war continue? If he's got contracts on guys, and guys are still dying, and he has yet to cede his controlling interest of the lucrative bookmaking rackets over to those whom are against him and his group. Whats keeping his enemies from just removing him from the picture?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/27/17 08:31 PM

https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2015...lice-raids.html

In the article they mention the following alliance to control drug territory. The following is taken from the article:

Belanger said Cavaliere, a lawyer who has represented many organized crime figures, is facing gangsterism and trafficking charges.

He was described as a “facilitator” and “moderator” whose office allegedly served as a hub for decision-making for the three groups.

“This criminal alliance was born of a desire to control the territory, particularly in terms of drug trade and, more particularly for Montreal, to create revenue sharing (among them),” Belanger said.

Police say the investigation was conducted in three stages — the first looked at the links among street gangs, the Hells Angels and the Mafia following Vito Rizzuto’s death as they worked together to control territory and maintain distribution.

“All the profits were divided among this alliance and all the decisions were made by this alliance,” said Dubé, a lead investigator in the mixed squad that took part in Thursday’s operation.

The second stage followed the money trail, while the third looked at the conspiracy to kill Desjardins.

This is how I derived at the conclusion that they conspired together including the Mafia under the leadership of Leonardo.
With regards to HA they will go with whichever group that will win this war. They couldn't care less who it is because it is all about money. If I understand correctly, Boucher is in isolation, that would explain why his daughter was used for communication purposes.
Your entitled to your opinion but Renaud is one journalist among others to believe that the Rizzuto rivals,Ndrangheta and HA may have struck an alliance.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/27/17 08:53 PM

Originally Posted By: eurodave
Some on the forum find it hard to believe that the GTA has become that important.

Toronto and Ontario are the economic capital of Canada
It's the most populated province
It's also the most wealthy
The Italian population in Ontario is nearly triple the size compared to Quebec, therefore the criminal element is not insignificant
The pentito Costa claimed that the ndrangheta now has the power in Canada, which evidently is playing a role in Montreal as they seek to stabilize the province.

The GTA families don't necessarily need or want to control Montreal but they will definitely have interest in the port and distribution networks as they can benefit from multiple access points which will benefit them and the cosa nostra.

Toronto has also demonstrated a more relaxed and less turbulent relationship between elements of cosa nostra from Palermo-Siculiana and various Ndrangheta cells.


With all the facts you mentioned, the writing is on the wall.
Whether one likes it or not, things get decided in Toronto/GTA.
You have Mafia & Ndrangheta leaders from Italy & Albanian leader that come to Toronto. The Caruana/Cun trera moved to Toronto. This is where business now takes place.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/27/17 08:55 PM

@ eurodave

Agreed about the article, one of the best ones in a long time. But we're used to it coming from Daniel Renaud, who is seemingly the most informed journalist.

Also agreed about Vito and his meeting in Toronto. I've been saying that is how I think it occured as well and it makes sense. At the time it was reported New York reps also attended.

It's also interesting that the Arcuris and Pietrantonio are in the picture again. Last we've heard they were in hiding.

It also seems like Sollecito can either relinquish or be clipped so business can continue. I can imagine the tough position the guy is in, facing cancer and or a bullet.

@ Ciment

I tend to disagree that the decisions are made by Toronto. I think Montreal is capable to handle its own affairs. Ofcourse there's no denying that Toronto has become more influential over the years and it seems the balance of power has shifted to some degree.

@ Sintraclub,

It has not been stated that Leonardo Rizzuto conspired with Boucher to murder Desjardins, but it's kind of obvious that he had a hand in it. The contract more than likely came from the Rizzuto group. Also, at the time of Desjardins' arrest it was reported that the Bonannos placed a contract on him.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/30/17 12:56 PM

http://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2017/01/25/dettes-impayees-et-perquisitions-liees-a-un-double-meurtre

Unpaid debts and searches related to double murder?
News | Published on January 25, 2017 at 11:30 - Update January 25, 2017 at 11:30

The two arson attacks, which targeted two businesses owned by the woman Carmelo Cannistraro, Caterina Miceli, would serve to send messages to the mafioso and his relatives.

The Streakz Coiffure, the Vimont district of Laval, and the branch of the same name, situated Robert-Bourassa Boulevard, also in Laval, have been the target of flames in recent weeks.

According to our information, sports betting, controlled by Carmelo Cannistraro during Operation Colosseum, is at the heart of the actions of the incendiaries.

It seems that it is not to get control of the sports betting book that both hairdressing salons have been set on fire.


Stefano Sollecito, the Mafia's interim sponsor, who is responsible for the sports betting book , is very ill and would not pay his debts.

It would therefore be for the payment of debts that we attacked the businesses of Caterina Miceli, the wife of Carmelo Cannistraro.

Searches related to double murder?
The residence of mobster Salvatore Scoppa was invested by the Sûreté du Québec (SQ) in the upscale area of &#8203;&#8203;Val-des-Brises, Laval, on 17 January.

The purpose of the search by the SQ crime investigators at Scoppa's home was to gather evidence in an ongoing investigation.

According to information obtained by TVA Nouvelles, these searches are linked to a case of a double murder.

A residence in Blainville, in the Laurentians, was searched, on December 22, in a case of disappearance, considered however a double murder.

On September 25 and 26, 2013, Daniel Pierre, in his mid-forties, and Mohamed Qazi Ali, 30, two men linked to organized crime disappeared under nebulous circumstances.

"The investigation initiated by the SPVM seeks to demonstrate that there would be a link between the two disappearances and could be found in the Laurentians," said SQ in a press release.

Listen to Félix Séguin's column in the video above to find out more about Carmelo Cannistraro and Salvatore Scoppa.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/30/17 01:27 PM

Another article (in Italian) claiming Rocco Sollecito and Carmine Verduci had close ties.

http://www.vocidicitta.it/attualita/cosche-e-coca-e-il-canada-la-nuova-zona-franca-della-ndrangheta/
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/30/17 01:55 PM

Great articles Ciment and Anti.

Clearly there's a strong relationship between the cities, as noted by Renaud previous article, and different cells and people will work together for the main purpose of money and power.

As you mentioned in the past antimafia, the Siderno group seems to be split or have different opinions on how to handle the Montreal situation.

Its a very complex web of relationships.

As for Sollecito, if he isn't paying his debts, that tells me alot about his supposed role as the head and lack of respect other clans have towards him. Such things wouldn't of happened under Vito or Vic.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/30/17 02:04 PM

If I am not mistaken wasn't Carmine Verduci part of the Coluccio clan. If so, it would make sense that he would have a relationship with Montreal. In the book buisiness or blood, when Vito came out of jail, Vito was unclear how things stood with Bruzzese and that his son-in-law Antonio Coluccio was keen on attempting to push into Montreal.Their relations may have been strained at that point.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/30/17 02:16 PM

For the record, I wasn't saying that there was no relationship or collusion between Leonardo-Stefano's mafia, with Lloris Cavaliere, The HA's & Woolley's group. Since the beginning I've been saying there was. I'm just saying it wasn't anything conclusive to tie in Leonardo with the attempts Boucher attempted to make on Desjardins.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/30/17 04:17 PM

Originally Posted By: eurodave
Great articles Ciment and Anti.

Clearly there's a strong relationship between the cities, as noted by Renaud previous article, and different cells and people will work together for the main purpose of money and power.

As you mentioned in the past antimafia, the Siderno group seems to be split or have different opinions on how to handle the Montreal situation.

Its a very complex web of relationships.

As for Sollecito, if he isn't paying his debts, that tells me alot about his supposed role as the head and lack of respect other clans have towards him. Such things wouldn't of happened under Vito or Vic.



If were are to take this journalist at his word that Stefano is very ill and can't make payments.I do find peculiar that no one in Stefano's camp was assigned to continue payments. Could it be that Carmelo Cannistraro being involved in all of this decided to keep the money ? or is there betrayal in the ranks ?
I agree,something doesn't seem right.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/31/17 06:42 PM

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...release-revoked

http://gangsterreport.com/montreal-mob-muscle-big-desi-sent-away/

Man tied to Rizzuto clan's bookmaking operations has release revoked
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/31/17 11:55 PM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/01/31/un-montrealais-assassine-a-toronto-1

Montreal killed in Toronto links to HA and Mafia
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/01/17 12:18 AM

Background info. on brother of the deceased.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/quebec-police-dismantle-massive-drug-network-1.1236172

https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2013...police_say.html

Translation:Montrealer killed in Toronto

MAXIME DELAND
Tuesday, 31 January 2017 17:27
Update Tuesday, 31 January 2017 17:27
A 39-year-old Montrealer was murdered in the street on Monday afternoon in downtown Toronto. The victim is the brother of Mihale Leventis, who is now in jail for allegedly attempting to monopolize the distribution of cocaine in Canada.
Anastasios Leventis was riddled with bullets around 2:30 pm at the corner of George and Adelaide Streets.
His assassin disembarked from a vehicle before opening fire on him many times.The death of Leventis was recorded on the scene.

No arrests have yet been made in connection with this case.
Anastasios Leventis is the brother of Mihale Leventis, arrested in November 2012 as part of Operation Loquace.
Mihale Leventis was described by the Sûreté du Québec as one of the six heads of the disbanded criminal organization. The objective was to seize the monopoly on the distribution of cocaine in the country.
According to the police, the criminal network was implicated in the importation, transportation and trafficking of narcotic drugs in Quebec and other Canadian provinces. The criminal organization also had links with various strains of organized crime, including the Hells Angels and the Italian mafia.
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/01/17 01:54 AM

It seems the ring leaders of Operation loquace are being killed off one by one. Levantis is another victim

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...en-colombie.php
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/01/17 02:22 AM

Originally Posted By: eurodave
It seems the ring leaders of Operation loquace are being killed off one by one. Levantis is another victim

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...en-colombie.php


Like to know who they pissed off. HA, Mafia or Ndrangheta. Unless they stiffed the Columbians.
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/01/17 03:05 AM

Two of them were tortured and cut into pieces, isn't that more cartel style?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/01/17 03:09 AM

I agree,they are sending a message to the others.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/01/17 03:13 AM

Originally Posted By: Ciment


I think the Quebec media know more details than the Toronto Police Service does.

http://m.insidetoronto.com/news-story/70...oronto-shooting
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/01/17 03:26 AM

^^^^
The murder victim was investigated in Project Cancun a number of years ago.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/toro...article33852275
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/01/17 04:04 PM

Andrea Scoppa has been arrested.

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...oppa-arrete.php
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/01/17 04:25 PM

Another cocaine, drug enterprise halted at the arrest of one of their leaders. So the Canadian authorities, behind the scenes, were already considering the Scoppas as those whom would reap the benefits of the incarcerations of the old Rizzuto-Sollecito leadership? Interesting. Wasn't he arrested as well during the earlier November seizure as well? I'm guessing this arrest was the usual arrest authorities make before indictments are officially handed down.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/01/17 04:36 PM

http://www.sq.gouv.qc.ca/AfficherDetails...r=salledepresse

More on Scoppa arrest
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/01/17 05:44 PM

Here we go, more violence to come.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/01/17 05:48 PM

I have a feeling that these arrests may change the balance of power in Montreal and will prolong tensions between the two or more warring parties.If both Scoppa brothers end up in jail, who will take the relief ? Do they have enough manpower to continue this feud ? I know there is a third brother but do not know how involved he is. This maybe a game chnager.
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/01/17 05:54 PM

It seems as though peace talks were in the works prior to his arrest and I'm sure he knew it was coming. The balance of power may stabilize for the time being as multiple leaders are in jail or it may continue to get worse.

Although I agree that organized crime should be monitered and fought by law enforcement, there should also be a way of keeping the streets relatively calm.

It's been nothing but unrest and murders for the last decade.

Shouldn't they be more focused on the bikers? Didn't they de-throne the mafia?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/01/17 06:22 PM

Originally Posted By: eurodave
Two of them were tortured and cut into pieces, isn't that more cartel style?


El Tiempo newspaper reported that the body of Quebec City native Frederic Lavoie, 31, was found on May 12, 2014 in the town of Sabaneta, 300 km northwest of the capital, Bogota. His remains were found on a street inside four garbage bags that were leaking blood. He was among more than 100 people sought by provincial police in a massive anti-drug operation launched in 2012 against bikers, the Mafia and their associates.
Timoleon Psiharis, 29, was tortured, doused with acid and beaten to death in Greece in 2012.

It is amazing to what length they would go to kill these guys. Columbia, Greece and Toronto CA. Someone should make a movie about them.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/01/17 07:14 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: eurodave
Two of them were tortured and cut into pieces, isn't that more cartel style?


El Tiempo newspaper reported that the body of Quebec City native Frederic Lavoie, 31, was found on May 12, 2014 in the town of Sabaneta, 300 km northwest of the capital, Bogota. His remains were found on a street inside four garbage bags that were leaking blood. He was among more than 100 people sought by provincial police in a massive anti-drug operation launched in 2012 against bikers, the Mafia and their associates.
Timoleon Psiharis, 29, was tortured, doused with acid and beaten to death in Greece in 2012.

It is amazing to what length they would go to kill these guys. Columbia, Greece and Toronto CA. Someone should make a movie about them.


I'm wondering how or why Rabih Al Khalil, one of the four suspects in the murder of John Raposo in Toronto in June 2012, avoided being killed while he was in Greece, as Al Khalil was there (still there?) after Psiharis was murdered--Al Khalil was finally captured in Greece in February 2013 because he faced numerous charges in Canada.

Mihale Leventis, the murdered Lavoie, Psiharis, and Al Khalil were considered four important ringleaders in Project Loquace. Leventis's brother Anastasios was killed this past Monday. So Mihale and Al Khalil are alive now only because they are in prison?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/01/17 07:46 PM

Do you think the Alfredo Patriacca murder had something to do with this crew ? Wasn't he there when Raposo got killed ?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/01/17 07:58 PM

Originally Posted By: antimafia


They finally got a recent picture of him. They have been using the same old picture for over a decade.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/01/17 08:07 PM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/02...-de-penitencier

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...de-coupable.php

Rizzuto's lawyer pleads guilty.

Translation:
Long-time lawyer of the Rizzuto clan, Loris Cavaliere, received 34 months of incarceration after pleading guilty to charges of gangsterism and illegal possession of a gun on Wednesday afternoon at the courthouse from Montreal.
The 62-year-old man was arrested on November 19, 2015 during a police roundup targeting alleged leaders of the Montreal mafia, Hells Angels and street gangs, as well as several alleged traffickers grouped in an "alliance" The control of the narcotics market.
After lengthy negotiations, the prosecution and the defense agreed on the terms of the penitentiary sentence they asked Judge Pierre Labelle to impose on Mr. Cavaliere.
A suggestion that the magistrate considered "reasonable". The charge of gangsterism means that the criminal will have to serve at least half of his sentence before he hopes for parole.
Knowing that he would go straight to the prison, the fallen lawyer appeared in court wearing a sweater and gray cotton sweat pants. With a beard, he also brought with him personal belongings in an olive green bag.
The charge of conspiracy to the cocaine trafficking against him was withdrawn as a result of these negotiations between the parties.

Mafia Consigliere
The criminalist notably played the role of consigliere (counselor) Rizzuto clan since the abduction of Paolo Renda, the brother in-law of the deceased godfather Vito Rizzuto, missing since May 2010.
He served as a "moderator of potential conflicts at the mafia leadership table and facilitator with the top managers since regular meetings with members of the alliance were held at his office," said Chief Inspector Patrick Bélanger , Of the Sûreté du Québec, during a press conference following this anti-drug operation.
In order to substantiate their evidence during the investigation, the police exceptionally obtained permission from the courts to install cameras and microphones in the lawyer's office for approximately one year without the knowledge of the lawyer, Believed that it was immune to electronic wiretaps in downtown Montreal.
Shortly before the criminal was handcuffed, a Molotov cocktail was launched through the door of the offices of his firm Cavaliere et Associés, located on Saint-Laurent Boulevard on September 29, 2015.
At the time of his arrest, the officers also seized at his office a semi-automatic pistol of Walther P99 brand and 9 mm caliber, whose serial number had been altered.
Mr. Cavaliere was granted provisional release after spending two weeks behind bars in Rivière-des-Prairies Prison for a bond totaling $ 300,000.
He also had to give up the practice of law until further notice, another exceptional measure imposed at the insistence of the Crown, in addition to being assigned to his residence 24 hours a day.
In 2004, Loris Cavaliere defended Vito Rizzuto during the extradition proceedings he faced in connection with his role in the murders of three American mafiosi committed in 1981 in New York State. The godfather could not escape American justice and had to spend six years behind bars in this case before his death from lung cancer in December 2013.
Cavaliere also represented Nicolo Rizzuto, Vito's father and patriarch of the Rizzuto clan, following his arrest in Operation Colosseum by the RCMP in 2006. The octogenarian was assassinated in his residence by a shooter, November 2010.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/01/17 08:45 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
Do you think the Alfredo Patriacca murder had something to do with this crew ? Wasn't he there when Raposo got killed ?


Patriarca was present; even got hit by a stray bullet. But I have no idea whether he had any dealings with either the suspects in Raposo's murder or in the Project Loquace bust (Al Khalil is a suspect in both).
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/02/17 12:23 AM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
Mafia Consigliere
The criminalist notably played the role of consigliere (counselor) Rizzuto clan since the abduction of Paolo Renda, the brother in-law of the deceased godfather Vito Rizzuto, missing since May 2010.
He served as a "moderator of potential conflicts at the mafia leadership table and facilitator with the top managers since regular meetings with members of the alliance were held at his office," said Chief Inspector Patrick Bélanger , Of the Sûreté du Québec, during a press conference following this anti-drug operation.
In order to substantiate their evidence during the investigation, the police exceptionally obtained permission from the courts to install cameras and microphones in the lawyer's office for approximately one year without the knowledge of the lawyer, Believed that it was immune to electronic wiretaps in downtown Montreal.
Shortly before the criminal was handcuffed, a Molotov cocktail was launched through the door of the offices of his firm Cavaliere et Associés, located on Saint-Laurent Boulevard on September 29, 2015.
At the time of his arrest, the officers also seized at his office a semi-automatic pistol of Walther P99 brand and 9 mm caliber, whose serial number had been altered.
Mr. Cavaliere was granted provisional release after spending two weeks behind bars in Rivière-des-Prairies Prison for a bond totaling $ 300,000.
He also had to give up the practice of law until further notice, another exceptional measure imposed at the insistence of the Crown, in addition to being assigned to his residence 24 hours a day.
In 2004, Loris Cavaliere defended Vito Rizzuto during the extradition proceedings he faced in connection with his role in the murders of three American mafiosi committed in 1981 in New York State. The godfather could not escape American justice and had to spend six years behind bars in this case before his death from lung cancer in December 2013.
Cavaliere also represented Nicolo Rizzuto, Vito's father and patriarch of the Rizzuto clan, following his arrest in Operation Colosseum by the RCMP in 2006. The octogenarian was assassinated in his residence by a shooter, November 2010.


Interesting. This just gets better and better.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/02/17 01:40 AM

Knew he had to be playing some more in depth role within the criminal aspect of things, once his law offices started being firebombed. Interesting to hear that he's supposedly been acting in the "consigliere" position since Paolo Renda's kidnapping, that was years ago. So Cavaliere could've possibly been schooling both Leonardo & Stefano Sollecito on how to run things, I think it's certainly possible.
Posted By: pmac

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/02/17 01:52 AM

Was paolo renda a made bonanno? Probaly made by galante. He probaly told vitos father in 76 77 bring all your guys down nyc and had a big ceromony cause they killed violi what 78? Wonder wheres his body and you guys probaly have a idea who where the actual killers sal tye iron guy or controni and violis kids?
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/02/17 01:20 PM

Joe Renda declared dead. He was the nephew of Gerlando Sciascia.

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...eclare-mort.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/02/17 03:04 PM

Originally Posted By: eurodave
Joe Renda declared dead. He was the nephew of Gerlando Sciascia.

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...eclare-mort.php


Renda's disappearance and likely murder show how there were people with ancestry from the Rizzutos' hometown, like Renda, who did not swear allegiance to the "Sixth Family" but, rather, to New York. He in particular appears to have betrayed Agostino Cun trera, to whom he had once been close.

Renda was born in New York and was a made Bonanno, likely made there. Before moving to Montreal and before Sciascia's murder in 1999, Renda would have come into contact with Sal Montagna and others in Montagna and Sciascia's circle, e.g., the aging mobster Giuseppe Arcuri, a made Bonanno and also from the Rizzutos' hometown, who died in 2001. Once in Montreal, Renda acted as its representative when he attended his uncle Gerlando's funeral in New York in 1999. Maybe Renda also acted as a go-between?

It took me close to four years to finally determine that Giuseppe Arcuri of New York is the brother of Domenico Arcuri Sr., the father of Domenico Arcuri Jr. and Antonino. Had I done some genealogical research shortly after Arcuri Sr.'s death in Florida in October 2012, I would have discovered that he and Giuseppe Arcuri had the same parents (Domenico and Filippa Arcuri); that Giuseppe and the parents had lived in the same household in New York during a certain period; that Giuseppe, his parents, and Gerlando had applied for their U.S. Social Security Number during a period of roughly three years (between 1955 and 1958); and that there is the possibility that Domenico Arcuri Sr. at one time was also living in New York with his parents and older brother Giuseppe before Domenico and his parents--as well as Domenico's other sibling(s)--moved to Montreal.

Apart from Gerlando's immigration matters, I don't know many of the reasons that the Arcuri clan and Sciascia clan had some members stay in New York, some move to Quebec, and some go back and forth. Gerlando's daughter, Donna, lives in the US with her husband and young son (Luciano); Gerlando's son, Joseph, lives in the Montreal area with his wife, and their son (Gerlando) is attending college in Poughkeepsie, New York--this grandson of Gerlando's very likely lives with his grandmother, Gerlando's wife, who lives in Yonkers.

Joseph Mark Sciascia, Gerlando'son, has at least one important business dealing with Domenico Arcuri Jr., who in turn still has an important business dealing with Raynald Desjardins (despite the friendship between the two that then turned into hatred).

It seems that for some of the guys in Montreal, whether they were made or not, being a made Bonanno meant something. Maybe that's why a non-Sicilian like Moreno Gallo aligned himself with Montagna?
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/02/17 04:19 PM

Interesting analysis anti.....

It would almost seem that the New York related or made men within the Montreal mob decided to take over the family, guys like Renda, Arcuri bros, Montagna and Lo Presti really pushed against the Rizzuto inner circle, one Sicilian faction vs another, from similar villages.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/02/17 05:58 PM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
It seems that for some of the guys in Montreal, whether they were made or not, being a made Bonanno meant something. Maybe that's why a non-Sicilian like Moreno Gallo aligned himself with Montagna?


Ofcourse, they were following Mafia protocol. I've being saying that is what I (firmly) believed for years. Isn't it interesting that almost all of the known Bonanno affiliates (excluding the Rizzuto-Renda-[BadWord] family members) sided with Montagna, who was the Bonanno emissary. I think that even Joe Di Maulo stayed neutral, or at least pretended to, during Montagna's fued with Desjardins. In addition, the people with Desjardins did not have a Bonanno affiliation, which is why Montagna wasn't able to bring them in, and in effect, wasn't able to become the uncontested leader of the Montreal Mafia.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/02/17 09:15 PM

Di Maulo might have pretended to be neutral, but I seriously doubt he truly stayed out of the Desjardins/Montagna feud. Of course we'll probably never truly know.

I think his "inaction" is what got him killed though. He didn't defend the Rizzuto's, like you said either acted neutral or pretended to (I think the latter) and more than likely helped Desjardins go along and help him with his attempt to take over. Otherwise I think Desjardins would have been dealt with pretty quick without Di Maulo's backing. But who really knows anymore? lol
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/02/17 09:42 PM

http://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2017/02/02/ma...eures-plus-tard

Translation:
Twenty-four hours after the operation that led to the arrest of seven individuals, including an influential member of the Montreal mafia, policemen struck again Thursday morning in Laval.

This was the second phase of the Estacade project, which aimed to dismantle a criminal organization that had become "very active in Laval and Montreal in the importation and trafficking of cocaine".

In the morning, four suspects were pinned in Laval soil, bringing the count to 11 individuals arrested in this important investigation.

Chadi Melki, 42, Charles Chouchani, 60, Hovhannes Yeghoyian, 29, and Mark Shirin, 42, are scheduled to appear on Thursday afternoon at the Montreal Courthouse on charges related to drug trafficking.

A man is still being sought in connection with this investigation, namely Louis Manuel Lopes, 57, of Montreal. According to the authorities, Lopes could currently be located outside the country
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/03/17 02:55 AM

What I find strange with the Montreal Bonanno made group led by Montagna(dead),which was comprised of Arcuri brothers(exiled)/ JoeRenda(dead)/Lopresti(dead)/Pietrantonio(wounded)/Gallo(dead), wanted to overtake the Rizzuto clan and did not have the muscle to do it.
Correct me if I am wrong but I did not see or read in the news, any retaliation from that group. They received a lot of incoming
but did not mount any substantial attacks.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/03/17 12:22 PM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...drew-scoppa.php

DANIEL RENAUD
LA PRESSE Feb. 3,2017
The influential clan leader of the mafia Andrew Scoppa, arrested Wednesday for trafficking cocaine, was particularly betrayed by a microphone that the police had installed in the car with his driver.LaPresse learned.

According to our information, several conversations between Scoppa and his driver Nicola Valiente, also co-accused in this case, have been caught on tape by the police since at least the beginning of last fall.

Andrew Scoppa and his alleged accomplices were subjected to numerous spin-offs by police officers who reportedly went to the Tower of Canadians more than once, where 65 kg of cocaine was seized by Squad Investigators Regional joint venture (ERM) of Laval, on October 26th.

The investigation, dubbed Estacade, began in June 2014. It focused on Andrew Scoppa, considered by the police to be a major supplier of cocaine to other criminal organizations in Montreal.

Scoppa, 52, and three of his alleged accomplices, Valiente, 40, Fazio Malatesta, 48, and Maxime Hébert, 24, must return to court today for their formal release investigation.

Remember that Andrew Scoppa faces four conspiracy charges, possession of cocaine for trafficking, trafficking in cocaine and receiving a sum of money in excess of $ 5,000. Arrested later than others on Wednesday, Valiente only appeared yesterday afternoon and was accused of conspiracy and trafficking of cocaine.

OTHER ARRESTS
Yesterday, the investigators of the ERM Laval of the Sûreté du Québec initiated phase two of Operation Estacade and arrested four other individuals suspected of being part of a drug trafficking cell operating in Laval and linked to the organization Of Andrew Scoppa. The suspects, Chadi Melki, 42, Charles Chouchani, 60, Hovhannes Yeghoyian, 29, and Mark Shirin, 42, were charged at the Laval Courthouse.

These last arrests increase to 12 the number of individuals apprehended in the investigation so far. At the time of this writing, a 13 th suspect, Luis Manuel Lopez, 57, of Montreal, was still being sought. The police believe it could be outside the country. The home of Lopez had been the subject of a search in recent months.

During the investigation, police seized more than 113 kg of cocaine, nearly $ 1 million in silver, 1 kg of MDMA, 280 lb of cannabis, 50,000 methamphetamine tablets, 15 kg of procaine, three weapons Prohibited weapons and a restricted weapon, according to a report unveiled Wednesday.
Posted By: pmac

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/03/17 05:45 PM

15kilos of procaine so that rumor is true they probaly use it to repress the bricks. Probaly the stuff that looks shinny then the next day ya nose is clogged like a sinus infection.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/03/17 06:03 PM


Pierre de Champlain
Feb.3,2017


Loris Cavaliere : a clarification about the mafia function of "consigliere"

Some medias have reported in recent days that Loris Cavaliere, a well-known Montreal lawyer specializing in criminal law, and still a member of the Barreau du Québec at the time of this writing (2017-02-03), pleaded guilty to charges of gangsterism brought against him. The former lawyer was arrested in November 2015, as part of Operation Magot-Mastif, conducted by the Regional Mixed Squad of Montreal (ERM). Cavaliere was accused of committing acts of gangsterism for the benefit of a criminal organization, namely the Rizzuto organization. These are, of course, serious accusations, especially since he was a lawyer.

Cavaliere was released under a heavy bail with, furthermore, that he was prohibited from practicing the profession of lawyer, pending the conclusion of the procedures against him. On February 1st, 2017, he pleaded guilty to the charges and was sentenced to 34 months, half of the sentence to be served before he could be eligible for parole.

There have been reports that Cavaliere allegedly acted as a "consigliere" or "house counsel" for the Rizzuto family in recent years, this being based on Crown evidence that Cavaliere promoted the interests of the Rizzuto family in the pursuit of its criminal activities. Cavaliere has not challenge the facts since he admitted his guilt.

However, I would like to draw attention to the attribution of the "consigliere" label on the deposed lawyer. This qualifier, from my point of view, is ambiguous because it implies that he is a member of Cosa Nostra. In the mafia, it is not necessary to be a lawyer to hold the position of the "consigliere", as in the mythical film "The Godfather" in which actor Robert Duvall played the role of Tom Hagen, the loyal lawyer who advised the boss of clan, Vito Corleone, and later his son, Michael. There stops the fiction of Hollywood.

In Cosa Nostra the rank of "consigliere" is not a fiction. It really exists, as it has been demonstrated many times in the past by numerous testimonies of former members of Cosa Nostra who became repentant. The individual who holds this key position is a career criminal who has a long history of mafia affiliations. The consigliere is appointed by the family boss and ranks third in the hierarchy of a mafia family, hence its importance and influence.

The consigliere plays a key role in the destiny and development of the criminal policies of the family. He is the first advisor to the boss and he also acts as an ambassador to the other families of Cosa Nostra. He is also the one who will preside over the election of a new leader of family to replace the former one who had deceased or who was killed, as it was the case for John Gotti, who took over the head of the Gambino family in New York, after murdering his boss, Paul Castellano, in december 1985.

But to hold such a rank, one must first and foremost be a “made” member of the mafia, that is to say, to have undergone through an elaborate initiation rite and to have proved not only his allegiance to the boss, but to have an eloquent "états de service", criminally speaking, to gain the family boss’s trust. Because the "consigliere" exerts a great deal of influence on the boss. He can convince him, for example, to recommend a promotion or a demotion, and even the assassination of a member of the family. That's saying it all!

Had Loris Cavaliere reached up that level? Was he truly a member of the mafia that would deserve him to be called a "consigliere"?

I do not think so. Instead, he merely acted as a facilitator, for example by allowing the use of his lawyers' premises for criminals to continue their discussions, knowing that they would fall under the cover of solicitor-client privilege And thus, out of reach judicially by wiretap warrants. It was a waste of time, as there were countless microphones that police had installed as part of Operation Magot-Mastif strategies. He was accused of transmitting messages from incarcerated members of the organization to other members on the street, and vice versa. Finally, the lawyer, who had access to sensible intelligence gathered from ongoing police investigations, circulated them among members of the Rizzuto organization. The acts alleged against the lawyer fall within the purview of section 467.12 (1) of the Criminal Code: Offense for the benefit of a criminal organization.

Perhaps the principal interested will one day venture to provide explanations about the role he really played in the last years of his controversial practice. But this explanation might never come out, since the lawyer, although not a made member of the mafia, nevertheless remains subject to the infamous law of silence, omertà.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/03/17 11:26 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
What I find strange with the Montreal Bonanno made group led by Montagna(dead),which was comprised of Arcuri brothers(exiled)/ JoeRenda(dead)/Lopresti(dead)/Pietrantonio(wounded)/Gallo(dead), wanted to overtake the Rizzuto clan and did not have the muscle to do it.
Correct me if I am wrong but I did not see or read in the news, any retaliation from that group. They received a lot of incoming
but did not mount any substantial attacks.


Even though the first shots came from them they did seemingly lack street muscle. I do think that the murder of Colapelle was a retaliation and Renaud also speculated about it. Colapelle was the one who had spied on Montagna on behalf of Desjardins. Also, after Montagna's murder it was reported that Desjardins stayed inside his home for most of the day until his arrest a few weeks later. So even if remnants of Montagna's group were looking to retaliate, it would've been difficult to get to him if not impossible. Even in Montreal they don't blow up a house yet, that only happens in Philly. And for what it's worth, the media did state that the police believed that Desjardins' life was in danger after Montagna was killed.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/04/17 12:07 AM

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...icer-tossed-out

With all whats going on in Montreal, you also have corrupted cops fighting each other.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/04/17 12:50 AM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...icer-tossed-out

With all whats going on in Montreal, you also have corrupted cops fighting each other.


From the article to which you linked:

Also, on Sept. 15, a Park Extension restaurant owned by Labos’s brother, Haralambos, was firebombed. Media reports on the arson fire alleged the restaurant was frequented by several organized crime figures. A police source confirmed this week Andrea (Andrew) Scoppa, 52, a leader within the Montreal Mafia who was charged in a cocaine trafficking case this week, was known to visit the restaurant.


Do you or does anyone else know whether there was speculation before this week that the firebombing of the restaurant might have been an attack by people opposed to Andrea Scoppa?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/04/17 01:04 AM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...icer-tossed-out

With all whats going on in Montreal, you also have corrupted cops fighting each other.


From the article to which you linked:

Also, on Sept. 15, a Park Extension restaurant owned by Labos’s brother, Haralambos, was firebombed. Media reports on the arson fire alleged the restaurant was frequented by several organized crime figures. A police source confirmed this week Andrea (Andrew) Scoppa, 52, a leader within the Montreal Mafia who was charged in a cocaine trafficking case this week, was known to visit the restaurant.


Do you or does anyone else know whether there was speculation before this week that the firebombing of the restaurant might have been an attack by people opposed to Andrea Scoppa?


http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...-a-montreal.php

That is what this news article suggests. Resto Bar "Liege" is the name of the place.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/04/17 02:24 AM

^^^^
Thanks, Ciment.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/04/17 02:59 AM

Originally Posted By: eurodave
Joe Renda declared dead. He was the nephew of Gerlando Sciascia.

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...eclare-mort.php


I've always thought Renda's wife's Facebook post to which I've linked below--she shared a news story--was curious. Tap/click on the link below; then click on the link to the news story she shared; finally, allow yourself to chuckle out loud.

https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2468145395353&id=1603877775
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/04/17 07:48 PM

Page not found, guess they already deleted it
Posted By: Marcow

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/05/17 05:38 PM

You can go in your Facebook profil, and when you scroll down you can find the post in 2011 or 2012.

Yes this Link is death. I will not post open her facebook profil.


Regards

Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/05/17 08:02 PM

^^^^
All,

I didn't think to provide various links that will work on every platform and device.

The link below, which I originally provided, will not work on your laptop/desktop PC; however, the link should open up both in the Facebook app on your smartphone (at least on an Android device) and, if you so choose, in a new tab of your mobile browser:

https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2468145395353&id=1603877775

The link below should work on both your smartphone and your laptop/desktop PC:

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2468145395353&id=1603877775

The link below should work on all platforms and devices:

https://www.facebook.com/betty.castiglione/posts/2468145395353

Here's another link in case anyone wants to save the following item to their own Evernote account:

https://www.evernote.com/shard/s229/sh/1...e3321e5242344e4

So what was the news article that she linked to and recommended on November 24, 2011? See below.

http://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2011/11/24/lechiquier-de-la-mafia-encore-une-fois-secoue
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/06/17 03:07 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
What I find strange with the Montreal Bonanno made group led by Montagna(dead),which was comprised of Arcuri brothers(exiled)/ JoeRenda(dead)/Lopresti(dead)/Pietrantonio(wounded)/Gallo(dead), wanted to overtake the Rizzuto clan and did not have the muscle to do it.
Correct me if I am wrong but I did not see or read in the news, any retaliation from that group. They received a lot of incoming
but did not mount any substantial attacks.


They certainly had the muscle to remove both Nicolo Sr & Jr. from the picture, but as said, once they began to turn their targets onto the non-mafia members whom were once a part of Rizzuto's group, their retaliations stopped after Montagna tried to have Desjardins killed. After the point they were simply running scared.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/06/17 04:42 PM

I wouldn't say they had the muscle more than they finally had the balls to go after Nicolo and Nick. It wasn't like either was firmly entrenched somewhere and never went out. If anything, they were seen too much. At that time it seems nobody was ever going to go after the Rizzuto's until Nick was killed.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/06/17 05:17 PM

There is also another point to be considered here,if and when this feud between the Montreal Calabrian clan and the Rizzuto clan comes to an end or a settlement. What will become of the Arcuri clan ? Will they have a seat at the table ? The Arcuri's did betray both clans.
The Rizzuto's & company will certainly want their revenge.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/06/17 06:40 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
There is also another point to be considered here,if and when this feud between the Montreal Calabrian clan and the Rizzuto clan comes to an end or a settlement. What will become of the Arcuri clan ? Will they have a seat at the table ? The Arcuri's did betray both clans.
The Rizzuto's & company will certainly want their revenge.


Are the Arcuri brothers even considered influential leaders in the Italian underworld in Montreal at the moment?

What confuses me is whether the eventual undisputed group of leaders in Montreal (undisputed for the most part) will consist of any made men or not. Which Italian groups in Quebec and Ontario will recognize the members of this roundtable as being the equivalent of made men? Because if these roundtable members are not made men, they can have their territory taken away by made men from other territories and can be killed by made men from other territories. On the other hand, made men in the Montreal Mafia and outside of Montreal started realizing at a certain point that the rules went out the window, i.e., made men are legitimate targets for assault and murder by non-made guys who didn't even obtain permission first to kill made guys. Who knows what claims Arcadi will make of the roundtable if he isn't made its leader, let alone be placed on it? In answer to his claims, the roundtable will probably clip him.

Are there other posters who, like me, think that the Montreal mob war would never have started if Sal Montagna hadn't been introduced to Raynald Desjardins?

I wonder, too, whether Desjardins and Mirarchi had planned from the very beginning to usurp power from anyone like Montagna who was going to make a grab for all the power. And was Desjardins hoping to see Mirarchi (not made) in the godfather role or Jos Di Maulo (made)? Assuming Di Maulo showed neutrality because he had no interest in getting involved in the war, do we think he was upset because his made status would be diluted if Desjardins, Mirarchi, and their loyalists achieved their goal of running Montreal? Or do we think that Di Maulo's made status didn't mean anything to him anymore, regardless of whether Desjardins was acting on his behalf?

By the way, are polls enabled for this forum? I'd like to create a poll asking posters what they think were the main catalysts for the war.
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/06/17 08:27 PM

Although the media simplifies this whole dispute between two large factions, I personally believe tensions originate in a generational conflict within Montreals mafia with what I call the Sub-40 group.

This sub 40 group was opposing the established cupola, Renda, Rizzuto, Cun-trera, Arcardi etc.. , and wanted to establish itself and not have to pay tribute to the remnants of the Rizzuto clan after Colisee.

Think that Scoppa was in his early 40s when Colisee occurred, add to that Montagna, Arcuri, Lopresti, Colapelle and so many others who were subject to the Rizzuto clans tax and control within the Italian milieu.

These men, De Vito for example, were not willing to kick up and submit to men such a Nick JR and the second generation of Rizzuto clan members it seems. The bars and cafes that did not suffer any or if little molotovs between 07-12 were all part of the initial coallition and the sub 40 group.

Obviously Montagna accelerated tensions with other established players in Montreal.

Also I noticed another pattern, many members killed in the Rizzuto clan were above a certain age and part of a certain prestige.

Antimafia, as for Montagna and his role of effect, its undeniable that he may have propelled the coalition to overthrow the old regime. That being said, I had heard rumors that many in Montreal used him and his ego to fuel his ambitions.

Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/06/17 10:31 PM

Not sure who you are alluding to eurodave but I think that Desjardins initially respected Montagna and I doubt that he manipulated him into thinking that he would become the leader of Montreal. I think this was never the arrangement they made. Montagna was probably going to reorganize the Bonanno group while Desjardins and his group would remain independent. I base this on the fact that Desjardins texted Mirarchi that he had trusted Montagna and that the latter had betrayed him. I think that if anyone manipulated Montagna it would be the Arcuri brothers. It would be to their benefit if Montagna became the leader and perhaps they believed that they could influence him. This makes me think that they may have been the true instigators of the war, after all, they had introduced him to Desjardins knowing that he and his boys were necessary in order to go up against what was left of the Rizzuto group. It was the elder Arcuri who was or felt like being passed over by the Rizzutos after Violi was clipped. The Arcuris seemingly were never truly allowed in the Rizzutos' circle of trust like the other paesani from their village.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/06/17 10:31 PM

I believe there are several contributing factors to this war.
They are:
1- D'Amico feud
This feud with the D'amico's was not by design or planned but it's implications and how it was handled made the Rizzuto clan look vulnerable. Other OC groups realized that if a small clan from Granby can cause so much unrest with all the kidnappings and ransoms then imagine how much damage larger groups can inflict.
2- Vito Rizzuto's arrest
These criminal groups have the same laws as that of the jungle, they can spot weakness in a herd and strike on those that are vulnerable. With Vito in prison they felt this was their chance to mount an attack. I am of the opinion that this war began after Vito's arrest.
3- Disgruntled drug dealers and old vendettas
The Rizzuto takeover in the late 70's was hostile. Many from the Cotroni clan were not pleased by this takeover. This set back indviduals like DiMaulo,Cotroni's,Gallo,Arcuri's and others who felt they deserved a bigger share of the pie. Drug dealers like Piccirilli & DeVito and the likes were not happy with the new administration. The Violi sons were also plotting their revenge.
4- Montagna's deportation (2009)
This brought the war at a higher level. It gave birth to the coalition of rivals against the Rizzuto clan. More high level targets were being killed.This coalition broke up and it gave Rizzuto an opportunity to mount a counter attack.
5- Rise of the Ndrangheta
In the early 2000's the Ndrangheta had risen to be one of the most powerful OC organization. Ontario benefited from this rise in power and it limited Rizzuto expansion into Ontario.
This expansion wave to Ontario has reversed course to the point that the Ndrangheta is supporting rival groups in Quebec.
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/06/17 10:41 PM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Not sure who you are alluding to eurodave but I think that Desjardins initially respected Montagna and I doubt that he manipulated him into thinking that he would become the leader of Montreal. I think this was never the arrangement they made. Montagna was probably going to reorganize the Bonanno group while Desjardins and his group would remain independent. I base this on the fact that Desjardins texted Mirarchi that he had trusted Montagna and that the latter had betrayed him. I think that if anyone manipulated Montagna it would be the Arcuri brothers. It would be to their benefit if Montagna became the leader and perhaps they believed that they could influence him. This makes me think that they may have been the true instigators of the war, after all, they had introduced him to Desjardins knowing that he and his boys were necessary in order to go up against what was left of the Rizzuto group. It was the elder Arcuri who was or felt like being passed over by the Rizzutos after Violi was clipped. The Arcuris seemingly were never truly allowed in the Rizzutos' circle of trust like the other paesani from their village.


Sorry I didn't specify per say.

What I meant to say is that certain people including the Arcuris and others close to him , manipulated motivated and pumped him up, using him to a certain extent to further advance their own agendas.

Again this is what was being said at the time
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/06/17 10:44 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
I believe there are several contributing factors to this war.
They are:
1- D'Amico feud
This feud with the D'amico's was not by design or planned but it's implications and how it was handled made the Rizzuto clan look vulnerable. Other OC groups realized that if a small clan from Granby can cause so much unrest with all the kidnappings and ransoms then imagine how much damage larger groups can inflict.
2- Vito Rizzuto's arrest
These criminal groups have the same laws as that of the jungle, they can spot weakness in a herd and strike on those that are vulnerable. With Vito in prison they felt this was their chance to mount an attack. I am of the opinion that this war began after Vito's arrest.
3- Disgruntled drug dealers and old vendettas
The Rizzuto takeover in the late 70's was hostile. Many from the Cotroni clan were not pleased by this takeover. This set back indviduals like DiMaulo,Cotroni's,Gallo,Arcuri's and others who felt they deserved a bigger share of the pie. Drug dealers like Piccirilli & DeVito and the likes were not happy with the new administration. The Violi sons were also plotting their revenge.
4- Montagna's deportation (2009)
This brought the war at a higher level. It gave birth to the coalition of rivals against the Rizzuto clan. More high level targets were being killed.This coalition broke up and it gave Rizzuto an opportunity to mount a counter attack.
5- Rise of the Ndrangheta
In the early 2000's the Ndrangheta had risen to be one of the most powerful OC organization. Ontario benefited from this rise in power and it limited Rizzuto expansion into Ontario.
This expansion wave to Ontario has reversed course to the point that the Ndrangheta is supporting rival groups in Quebec.


On point
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/06/17 10:54 PM

Originally Posted By: eurodave
Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Not sure who you are alluding to eurodave but I think that Desjardins initially respected Montagna and I doubt that he manipulated him into thinking that he would become the leader of Montreal. I think this was never the arrangement they made. Montagna was probably going to reorganize the Bonanno group while Desjardins and his group would remain independent. I base this on the fact that Desjardins texted Mirarchi that he had trusted Montagna and that the latter had betrayed him. I think that if anyone manipulated Montagna it would be the Arcuri brothers. It would be to their benefit if Montagna became the leader and perhaps they believed that they could influence him. This makes me think that they may have been the true instigators of the war, after all, they had introduced him to Desjardins knowing that he and his boys were necessary in order to go up against what was left of the Rizzuto group. It was the elder Arcuri who was or felt like being passed over by the Rizzutos after Violi was clipped. The Arcuris seemingly were never truly allowed in the Rizzutos' circle of trust like the other paesani from their village.


Sorry I didn't specify per say.

What I meant to say is that certain people including the Arcuris and others close to him , manipulated motivated and pumped him up, using him to a certain extent to further advance their own agendas.

Again this is what was being said at the time


That makes sense, that the people in his own group motivated and to an extent manipulated him trying to replace the Rizzutos knowing that they themselves were not in a position to do so.

Anyway, great analysis by all of you gentlemen.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/07/17 12:37 AM

La sentence de Mathieu Desjardins reste à 12 mois de prison

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...s-de-prison.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/07/17 01:10 PM

La boulangerie du défunt mafieux Moreno Gallo visée par un incendie criminel

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...ie-criminel.php
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/07/17 01:44 PM

Interesting to say the least.

Does anyone know if gallo has any sons or brothers that may be continuing his legacy ?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/07/17 01:59 PM

Originally Posted By: eurodave
Interesting to say the least.

Does anyone know if gallo has any sons or brothers that may be continuing his legacy ?


He has a son Anthony Gallo and brother-in-law Tony Papa mentioned in the article below.

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2015/09/08/comment-la-pegre-a-deja-infiltre-la-bourse
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/07/17 02:24 PM

Gallo has switched over to Montagna's camp.
Are they after remnants of that camp ? Does it have to do with the sports book ?
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/07/17 02:33 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: eurodave
Interesting to say the least.

Does anyone know if gallo has any sons or brothers that may be continuing his legacy ?


He has a son Anthony Gallo and brother-in-law Tony Papa mentioned in the article below.

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2015/09/08/comment-la-pegre-a-deja-infiltre-la-bourse


Ciment,

For years I also thought that Tony Papa was Gallo's brother-in-law because Papa was reported to be married to a Micheline Gallo, supposedly the sister of Moreno. But a couple of months ago I came upon a retraction in La Presse that stated Papa was not Moreno Gallo's brother-in-law. I'll try to dig up this item when I get home late tonight.

Another error about Tony Papa that I found on the Net is that he is sometimes confused with Antonio Papalia. We recall that Vito Rizzuto had connections to the Calabrian-Canadian brothers Roberto and Antonio Papalia, who at a certain point in their stock-promoter careers moved out to British Columbia. Papa, of course, is himself known as a stock promoter.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/07/17 02:46 PM

^^^^
I was able to look up the retraction by searching for it here at work. See

https://www.evernote.com/shard/s229/sh/3...fc05ebeee169f0b

Look for the red arrow. Everyone will likely have to zoom in on the Evernote item.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/07/17 04:57 PM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
^^^^
I was able to look up the retraction by searching for it here at work. See

https://www.evernote.com/shard/s229/sh/3...fc05ebeee169f0b

Look for the red arrow. Everyone will likely have to zoom in on the Evernote item.


Thanks for the info.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/07/17 05:26 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: antimafia
^^^^
I was able to look up the retraction by searching for it here at work. See

https://www.evernote.com/shard/s229/sh/3...fc05ebeee169f0b

Look for the red arrow. Everyone will likely have to zoom in on the Evernote item.


Thanks for the info.


You're welcome. I'm still curious to know why, years later, a number of journalists at various papers are reporting the same error.
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Links below to English-language articles about the most recent firebombing. These articles, unlike the French ones, currently don't mention who owns the establishment. :-)

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/little-italy-pizzeria-hit-by-arsonists-again

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/montreal-little-italy-arson-pizzeria-1.3970009

http://montreal.ctvnews.ca/arsonists-attack-little-italy-pizzeria-1.3274065
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/08/17 03:59 AM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: eurodave
Interesting to say the least.

Does anyone know if gallo has any sons or brothers that may be continuing his legacy ?


He has a son Anthony Gallo and brother-in-law Tony Papa mentioned in the article below.

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2015/09/08/comment-la-pegre-a-deja-infiltre-la-bourse


I got the following from a court document:

 The applicant, Moreno Gallo, has been a permanent resident for a long time. He entered Canada in 1954 with his mother and sister at the age of eight. He has been married since 1969, and he and his wife have three children; They also have four grandchildren; All resident in Canada, as well as the applicant's mother and two sisters.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/08/17 12:49 PM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...eroport-pet.php

José McCarthy, who was wanted since police operation Magot- Mastiff that beheaded organized crime in Montreal 14 months ago, was arrested Tuesday night at Pierre Elliot Trudeau.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/08/17 04:29 PM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: antimafia
^^^^
I was able to look up the retraction by searching for it here at work. See

https://www.evernote.com/shard/s229/sh/3...fc05ebeee169f0b

Look for the red arrow. Everyone will likely have to zoom in on the Evernote item.


Thanks for the info.


You're welcome. I'm still curious to know why, years later, a number of journalists at various papers are reporting the same error.



I do find it annoying. One logical explanation may be the lack of resources. So when making references to other books, they naturally assume that the other authors have done their fact checking. I am not excusing them but merely trying to understand their rationale. It could also be a simple explanation of laziness on their part.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/08/17 05:53 PM

I think in the case of LoPresti at least, that his involvement with the Montagna side was moreso for revenge over what happened to his father, years earlier, as opposed to having an actual gripe about kicking up to the Rizzuto group and those involved.



On a sidenote, here's a photo of Paul Sorvino & Anthony LaPaglia as Nicolo Sr & Vito Rizzuto from the upcoming miniseries, Bad Blood.

Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/09/17 11:19 PM

One reason the underworld in Quebec is so fascinating--to me, at least--is that there are so many small independent drug operators working in the province.

Cocaïne: un ancien homme d'affaires évite la prison

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...e-la-prison.php
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/10/17 12:28 AM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
One reason the underworld in Quebec is so fascinating--to me, at least--is that there are so many small independent drug operators working in the province.

Cocaïne: un ancien homme d'affaires évite la prison

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...e-la-prison.php


When do you think this fragmentation started? It seems to me that during the Cotroni era the Montreal Mafia, and in effect Quebec, all centered around this group known as the Montreal decina. It seems that all these smaller groups developed during the Rizzuto era somewhere in the 90s or 2000s. Even though I don't believe in the declaration of independence in '99 there is a clear pattern that things did change in terms of decentralization. The very root of this must have started in the 70s when one group splintered in two and never fully blended again.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/10/17 06:50 PM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...limmobilier.php

Irregular real estate transactions in Rivière-des-Prairies and royalties levied by the Italian mafia for infrastructure contracts in Montreal would be at the heart of the police investigation called Contour
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/11/17 12:51 PM

http://gjengkriminalitet.blogspot.ca/2017/02/how-hells-angels-conquered-canada.html?spref=tw

How the Hells Angels Conquered Canada
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/11/17 12:54 PM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...e-suspendue.php

Operation Colosseum: release of cocaine importer still suspended
Posted By: pmac

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/12/17 12:31 AM

The co writer of that rizzuto book wrote a summary of what's going on in montreal today on Jerry capris site. Dont no how to post maybe someone can.
Posted By: BillyBrizzi

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/12/17 01:15 AM

Originally Posted By: pmac
The co writer of that rizzuto book wrote a summary of what's going on in montreal today on Jerry capris site. Dont no how to post maybe someone can.


Here you go Pmac:

Quote:
Bodies Dropping Like Flies In Canada Mob War

Gang Land Exclusive!

Vito RizzutoBodies keep dropping in Toronto and Montreal, and around the globe, three years after Montreal Mafia leader Vito Rizzuto's death.

They've been falling for about ten years now, since Rizzuto pleaded guilty and began serving a prison term in a Colorado prison for his role as the primary shooter in the storied Three Capos Murders in a Brooklyn social club 36 years ago.

Those slayings solidified the status of then-Bonanno family capo Joseph Massino and assured his eventual rise to the top of the crime family. They also established Rizzuto as a major player in the family's Montreal faction that had been in place since the 1950s. Bodies have stopped dropping in Brooklyn and the rest of New York City in recent years, but they're still dropping like flies in the mob war that's raging north of the U.S. border.

The current war has claimed some 20 lives in Montreal, Toronto, Mexico and Italy since 2009.

Former Rizzuto loyalists are also finding their businesses under siege. This winter, there has been a rash of arson attempts against Montreal businesses with ties to the old Rizzuto organization.

Rizzuto, once known as Canada's Teflon Don, was the country's most powerful mobster when he died suddenly of reported natural causes in December 2013 at the age of 67. That same year, Massino, now 74, received his reward for being the first New York mob boss to flip, and was released from prison. He hasn't been heard from since.

Joseph MassinoRizzuto was once seen as a unifying, stabilizing force in Canada's underworld, working with outlaw bikers, the Calabrian 'Ndrangheta, American mob families, street gangs, Irish mobsters and anyone else with an idea on how to turn an illegal profit.

Things started to fall apart after he pleaded guilty in 2007 in Brooklyn Federal Court to racketeering charges in exchange for a 10-year sentence for taking part in the 1981 murders of three Bonanno family captains — Dominick (Big Trin) Trinchera, Philip (Philly Lucky) Giaccone and Alphonse (Sonny Red) Indelicato.

He ended up serving five and a half years — not much time for three dead bodies but plenty of time for his old empire to come under siege from bitter enemies in the the 'Ndrangheta, or Calabrian Mafia, in the Greater Toronto Area, and from Salvatore (Sal The Ironworker) Montagna of New York City, the former acting head of the Bonanno crime family.

Shortly after Rizzuto was released from prison in October 2012, it was his forces who were on the offensive.

Lorenzo GiordanoNow they're on the receiving end of the gunfire and there's talk of a "black list" of former Rizzuto loyalists who are targeted for murder.

The latest high-profile body to drop is that of Vincenzo Spagnolo, 65, a former Rizzuto confidante who was gunned down on Saturday October 15 at his home in the city's Vimont neighborhood.

Spagnolo's murder came months after the shooting deaths in the Laval suburb of Montreal of former Rizzuto allies Lorenzo (Skunk) Giordano, 52, and Rocco (Sauce) Sollecito, 67.

Giordano had clout in Toronto as well as Montreal and was once seen as potential leadership material.

Sollecito was one of the men who helped run the Montreal Mafia while Rizzuto was serving his U.S. prison term.

Sollecito's son Stefano, who once lived in the Toronto area, is battling drug conspiracy charges as well as cancer.

Rocco Sollecit, Nicolo Rizzuto, Paol RendaIn all of the recent killings, there was no exchange of gunfire. The killers seemed to know their victims' morning routines and lay in wait for their arrival. Giordano was shot dead in the parking lot of a health club while Sollecito was gunned down in broad daylight at a stop sign in his luxury BMW SUV, within eyeshot of the Laval police headquarters.

Another lesser light in the Rizzuto orbit, Alfredo Patriarca, 42, of Toronto, was shot dead on January 20, 2016, in the garage of his upscale house.

His killer patiently waited for him to return home, and was picked up on security video as he was shot from close range. No arrest has been made.

For a short time after Rizzuto's death, there seemed to be a new order with a coalition of his loyalists still in charge.

Police said that Rizzuto's son Leonardo assumed a leadership role as part of La Table, a coalition of a half dozen gangsters who shared power.

That attempt at restructuring crumbled when police arrested Leonardo Rizzuto and others connected to biker and street gangs in October 2015.

Now he sits in a jail cell, awaiting trial for gangsterism charges and the violence has escalated again.

Leonardo RizzutoAt the time of his arrest, Leonardo Rizzuto was a lawyer in good standing with no criminal record.

Rizzuto's other son, Nicholas, was murdered in 2009 as Rizzuto languished behind bars. His father Nicolo, was killed a year later. No arrests have been made.

Pierre de Champlain, an author and former RCMP organized crime analyst, says he doubts Montreal will see another charismatic Mafia leader like Rizzuto or Vic (The Egg) Cotroni before him. It's not clear how Cotroni got his nickname. Perhaps it was for the egg-shape of his balding head or perhaps because he hatched ideas that generated profits. Whatever the case, The Egg was able to rule the roost from the 1960s to the early 1980s, when the Rizzutos stepped up.

De Champlain also doubts any future boss will have the longevity of Rizzuto or Cotroni.

"Today leaders of Mafia families go as fast as they come in," de Champlain says. "There is a lot of turn over." Whoever gets the top spot will need Rizzuto's mediation skills, de Champlain says.

Vic Cotroni"It will be important for the next Montreal leader to maintain cohesion within various factions, and also it is important that this leader is also recognized and respected by other criminal organizations leaders in Montreal and elsewhere in Quebec," de Champlain says.

Of particular importance are relations with the Hells Angels. Outlaw bikers once did heavy lifting and "wet work" — or murders — for the mob. Now they're a force in their own right.

In the past few months, scores of Hells Angels have been released from prison in Quebec after a massive crackdown on the bikers there in 2009.

They're expanding into Canada's Maritimes, where Vito and the Angels once worked together. Also pushing in on Canada's east coast are Hells Angels from Woodbridge, north of Toronto.

"The next leader of the (Montreal) Mafia must be a strong character to negotiate alliances and business partnership with the Hells Angels," de Champlain says.

NicholasOne former Rizzuto ally who's still alive is Francesco Arcadi, who remains in custody on a string of organized crime offenses.

No one's expecting him to assume Rizzuto's old post. The only curiosity is what happens to him when he's finally released.

Arcadi's release from prison was suspended by the Parole Board last summer after officials expressed concern that he might be a target for murder on the streets.

In the happier days of the early 2000s, Arcadi was a frequent and powerful visitor to the province of Ontario and particularly York Region north of Toronto.

A major challenge for the next generation is to match Rizzuto's influence with construction companies, politicians, business people and union officials.

A recent provincial crime commission disrupted some relationships between criminals, politicians, builders and unions although no one is saying things are scrubbed clean. The crime commission did not extend its work to neighboring Ontario, traditionally seen as a place of investment for the Montreal mob.

Business Or BloodAs a final indignity to a rough year for the old Rizzuto group, Vito's old friend Rocco Sollecito was denied a public commemoration mass in southern Italy on Dec. 27 because of his reputation.

Sollecito's role in the Montreal underworld was that of a mediator, not a gunman, but that was bad enough for his killers, authorities, and the archbishop in his old hometown.

At first, a priest posted notices for the mass to be held at 6:30 pm in tiny Grumo Appula, part of the larger metropolitan area of the city of Bari.

Then the local police chief demanded that it be held at dawn instead, so it wouldn't draw a large crowd.

And finally the area's archbishop stepped in and called it a "great scandal" to hold the public mass for someone who didn't live a Christian life.

Ultimately, it was decided that no mass at all would be held for the man who died for his friendship with Vito Rizzuto.

Editor's Note: Guest columnist Peter Edwards, an acclaimed Toronto Star newsman for more than 30 years, is a recognized expert on organized crime in Canada. His most recent true-crime book, with co-author Antonio Nicaso, Business Or Blood: Mafia Boss Vito Rizzuto's Last War, was published in 2015. It will air later this year on FX Canada as a six-part series, Bad Blood.


Sal The Ironworker's Killers Start Paying The Price

Salvatore MontagnaIt's doubtful the Montreal-based killers of onetime acting Bonanno family boss Sal (The Ironworker) Montagna of New York gave much thought that it was Thanksgiving Day in the United States on the day that they shot him dead.

Their strength is ruthlessness, not irony.

But that date stuck in the craw of Montagna's widow, Francesca, when she spoke to mobster Raynald Desjardins in a Montreal courthouse via a video link from the Canadian Consulate General office in New York last June.

"I will regret you for the rest of my life, Mr. Desjardins," Montagna's widow said. "I will never forgive you. I tried, but I can't. You will never know the harsh pain and struggle you caused us."

In December, Desjardins was sentenced to 14 years for his role in the death of her husband, after pleading guilty to conspiracy to commit murder.

With credits for pre-sentence time served, Desjardins is due to walk free in the summer of 2022.

Raynald DesjardinsLater this month, six more men — Jack Simpson, 75: Vittorio Mirarchi, 39; Calogero Milioto, 45; Pietro (Peter) Magistrale, 64; Steven Fracas, 33; and Steven D'Addario, 40 — are due to be sentenced for their role in the murder. They've all pleaded guilty to conspiracy, but no one has confessed to actually pulling the trigger.

Montagna was shot on Nov. 24, 2011 inside Simpson's home on Vaudry, a small island, east of Montreal.

For a short time, Montagna was thought to be a viable candidate to become Montreal's top mob boss, with clout over both Sicilian, Calabrian and homegrown mobsters. The top spot remains open with the death of Vito Rizzuto to reportedly natural causes in December 2013.

The next leader of the Montreal Mafia will be a true Montrealer, not a carpetbagger from the outside, says de Champlain.

Vito Rizzuto"I don't think that guys in the Bonanno family will be happy and comfortable with a leader coming from Chicago," de Champlain says. "Same reasoning for Montreal."

Intercepted cell phone conversations show that Desjardins felt Montagna's men were horning in on his bookmaking, loan-sharking and protection rackets.

Desjardins also wasn't happy that someone opened fire at him with an assault rifle as he sat with his bodyguard in a vehicle near the Olivier-Charbonneau bridge in Laval, two months before Montagna's murder.

As Desjardins listened somberly, Mrs. Montagna told the court about her personal and family grief.

"I don't know how I've made it since (my husband was killed)," she said. "When I stop and think where my life is now, I want to scream and let the whole world hear me."

Pierre de ChamplainShe said it always stuck in her memory how she lost her spouse on Thanksgiving Day. She explained that she wore black clothing for four years after the murder and stopped when "I realized that no matter what color I wore, it made no difference."

She let Desjardins know that on her husband's birthday, she and her three daughters would have a cake and candles for him, which they'd blow out.

"My in-laws both recently died, I believe, from broken hearts caused by the death of their wonderful son. I often prayed that God would take me, too. But I realized I need to (move) forward to help and teach my daughters to live productive, happy lives."

The Crown prosecutor also informed the court that authorities had confiscated a number of items from Desjardins when he was arrested, including a prayer card and a lottery ticket.

He was given back the prayer card, which is for St. Joseph, the patron saint for families.

The lottery ticket, like Desjardins, is assumed to be a loser.


Fugitive Mob Leader Avoids Bloodletting In Mexico

Daniele RanieriIt was only natural for Toronto area police to check with their counterparts in Mexico to see if Daniel Ranieri had made the body count last month at the shooting at the Blue Parrot club on Mexico's Riviera during a well-attended techno music festival.

Mexico is believed to be the not-so-secret hiding place for Ranieri, 32, one of the last vestiges of the Rizzuto crime family in Toronto. Ranieri has been on the run from charges of extortion and conspiracy to commit an indictable offense for the past two years.

Four people were shot dead and a woman was trampled to death at the Blue Parrot in the wee hours of the morning on January 16. Fifteen others were injured. None of them turned out to be Ranieri, but there was still a distinctly Canadian flavor to the shooting. The music festival and Blue Parrot are owned by Toronto residents with no criminal records and a decade of experience in the entertainment industry.

Sunny Mexico has long been an Elba for Canadian mobsters, seeking to escape the winter's cold and police heat.

Meyer LanskyThe country has long been a magnet for Montreal's underworld, including mobsters, bikers and French-Canadian gangsters, notes de Champlain.

Back in 1970, Canadian mobsters from Hamilton, Toronto and Montreal, including Vic and Frank Cotroni and Paolo Violi, went down to Acapulco to meet with mob money-launderer Meyer Lansky. The topic for the Southern Summit was how to cash in on casinos, which were soon to be legalized in Quebec. The Canadians were accompanied by one of their lawyers as they also met with a millionaire businessman who made his fortune in Canada before settling in the south.

Nowadays, it's generally the promise of a drug supply that draws Canadian underworld figures south.

Giuseppe ColuccioFormer Toronto resident Giuseppe Coluccio was arrested in September 2008 in what was announced at the time as one of the largest international drug busts in history.

Coluccio lived for three years in the Toronto area under the alias of "Joe Scarfo," and was dubbed the "King of International Drug Trafficking" when American and Italian authorities announced the arrests of 507 of his alleged associates.

Coluccio was a frequent visitor to York Region, north of Toronto, where he drove a yellow Ferrari and a silver Maserati — using a fake Ontario driver's license.

He lived in a luxury apartment on Palace Pier, overlooking Lake Ontario, and when police raided it, they found $1.5 stuffed behind his walls.

Coluccio's organization wound through a pizzeria in New York, and authorities said he helped direct the shipment of massive quantities of cocaine, methamphetamine, heroin and marijuana into CanadaNorth America from Colombia, Guatemala, Panama and Mexico. He's currently behind bars in a high-security Italian prison, with no prospect of slipping back into Toronto in the foreseeable future.

Kirk WilsonAuthorities said at the time that the bust underlined how the Gulf Cartel has used its links to paramilitary Zetas to push ahead of established Colombian rivals through the murders of hundreds of witnesses, informants, magistrates and police.

The Zetas were mentioned as a possible attacker in Mexican media after the Blue Parrot attack.

Authorities say they're investigating whether the attack was triggered by competition for drug turf, extortion or a murder plot against one of the victims.

The drug theory is supported by the presence of four banners that appeared briefly in the areas, proclaiming the shooting to be the work of "Old School Zetas."

Media reports say the area's drug trade has recently been split between two drug dealing gangs, the Gulf Cartel and Los Pelones, and that the Zetas are pushing in.

In the end, no mobsters were killed in the attack on the Blue Parrot. The sole Canadian killed was longtime security guard Kirk Wilson, who was hailed as a hero for trying to stop a man from entering the club with a gun.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/15/17 12:37 PM

OPERATION LOQUACE
ARMS TRAFFICKER (linked to west end gang) PLEADS GUILTY
DANIEL RENAUD
LA PRESSE
Shane Kenneth Maloney, accused of controlling an arsenal that led to the largest seizure of weapons and explosives in Canadian history, pleaded guilty yesterday to charges of gangsterism, cocaine trafficking, Weapons. The prosecution and the defense agreed on an overall sentence of approximately 10 years. However, by deducting pre-trial detention, he would have four and a half years to serve.

But the punishment is not yet sealed. Judge Sophie Bourque of the Superior Court will have to ratify or not this joint suggestion on March 15 next.

TREASON
Maloney was arrested on November 1 , 2012 in an operation of the SQ, called Loquace, to dismantle a consortium of six people from various organized crime sectors who allegedly attempted to seize the monopoly The distribution of cocaine in Canada.

In this resounding investigation, the task of the police officers was greatly facilitated by the right arm of one of the members of the consortium who became an undercover officer for the police and who transmitted to him the messages that the suspects exchanged on their apparatus PGP, and narcotics and money photos.

In less than six months, the officer trafficked 530 kg of cocaine and cashed nearly 14 million. In all, 132 individuals were charged in the wake of Operation Loquace.

According to a summary of facts read by the prosecutor M e Philippe Vallieres-Roland, the investigators were able to link Maloney to a seizure of 25 kg of cocaine.

HISTORICAL ENTRY
However, Maloney's involvement is most evident in the Loquace investigation.

On October 3 and 4, 2012, investigators discovered an unprecedented amount of weapons, over 1,000 dynamite sticks, explosives and detonators in two warehouses in Laval and Montreal. In Laval, on Chomedey Street, the police observed Maloney during the investigation. When they searched her condo in L'Île-des-Sœurs on the day of the police strike, they discovered documents to link it to these warehouses. According to information that came from the evidence, the dynamite sticks found come from a bold armed robbery committed at the premises of a blasting company in Sainte-Sophie, in the Laurentians, in August 2011.

When Maloney was arrested, the police seized 1.5 million while his condo and a farm in Ontario were blocked. Much of the money and the farm will be confiscated for the benefit of the Attorney General while the condo will be handed over to the future convict.

In determining the sentence, the prosecution and defense, provided by M e Dominique Shoofey, were particularly given the harsh conditions of Maloney, who is paraplegic and suffering from severe back pain since a motorcycle accident has Rendered invalid some fifteen years ago.

Maloney relinquishes a motion to stay the judicial process under the Jordan Judgment he made and undertakes not to withdraw his conviction if co-accused succeed in similar motions filed by them .

The other presumed leaders of the consortium, Larry Amero (Hells Angels), Mihale Leventis and Rabi Alkhalil, are expected to have their trial in Loquace respectively in July 2017, September 2017 and January 2018.

In the box, Maloney, who was wearing very short hair and a beard for a few days, answered politely to the judge's questions and looked at a couple of policemen sitting in the room.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/15/17 12:40 PM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/02/15/liberte-sous-haute-surveillance

Francesco Del Balso, a strong man of the mafia clan Rizzuto, who has been murdered by a number of comrades, has just returned to freedom with an electronic bracelet around his ankle.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/15/17 06:35 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/02/15/liberte-sous-haute-surveillance

Francesco Del Balso, a strong man of the mafia clan Rizzuto, who has been murdered by a number of comrades, has just returned to freedom with an electronic bracelet around his ankle.


That will make a lupara bianca a little bit complicated.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/15/17 07:45 PM

Not if they cut the leg off.... lol
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/15/17 08:42 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
who has been murdered by a number of comrades


He's been murdered? lol

I'd imagine Arcadi is the next to get the same deal probably
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/15/17 09:18 PM

http://globalnews.ca/news/3248292/7kg-of...o-airport-cbsa/

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...n-a-toronto.php

Cocaine found in the food carts of a plane in Toronto.
The Canada Border Services Agency announced that it had seized seven kilograms of cocaine from trolleys used to distribute food on board an aircraft.

The agency says it discovered earlier this month by conducting a routine inspection of a plane that landed at Toronto's Pearson International Airport.

The officers noticed something unusual about the restoration carts and examined them more closely.

They finally found seven brick-shaped packages containing white powder wrapped in plastic.

The packages were transported to a laboratory, where tests showed that it was indeed cocaine, customs officials said.

The agency did not disclose more details about the origin of the packages or about possible charges in connection with this case.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/15/17 09:23 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
Not if they cut the leg off.... lol


Then they could as well kill him on the spot lol. But doesn't he need to stay at home?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/15/17 10:12 PM

I would rather be in jail than being a target in your own home.
He will not be allowed to bear arms to defend himself.
He will not be able to answer his front door or he will be shot down like Spagnolo.
He can't have his window blinds up or can also be shot like Rizzuto sr.
He cannot associate with criminals so his buddies can't be bodyguards.
His house may be subject to molotov firebombings and can be smoked out.
Tough situation to be in.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/15/17 11:54 PM

He can always hire professional security. Stefano Sollecito still seems to have some pull and he's in a similar situation. These guys always find ways.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/16/17 02:20 AM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
He can always hire professional security. Stefano Sollecito still seems to have some pull and he's in a similar situation. These guys always find ways.


Yes he can hire security but it gets quite expensive to be protected 24/7 and your income is being disrupted by rivals.
Stefano might of got a pass on account he has cancer and may be obsolete or no longer have control.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/16/17 02:33 AM

There might be a slim chance that a truce may save Del Balso.
I know it is premature but they actually went a whole 8 days with no incidents.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/16/17 02:40 AM

http://aboutthemafia.com/rizzuto-family-mobster-francesco-del-balso-set-free

Another article on Del Balso
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/16/17 02:46 AM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...le-a-verdun.php

Not sure if it is mafia related but there has been another shooting.

Translation:
The driver of a snowplow was hit by a gun bullet Wednesday in the late afternoon in the Verdun borough of Montreal. The 46-year-old man, known to the police, survived his upper body wounds.

The attack occurred around 4:30 pm on Gordon Street south of Bannantyne Avenue, a residential area southwest of Montreal. The victim was in the snow plow belonging to a private company when he was the target of the shooter.

"A vehicle traveling northbound on Bannantyne Avenue would have stopped at the snow removal machine. One of the occupants of the vehicle was allegedly fired at least once in the direction of the victim, "said Daniel Lacoursière, spokesperson for the Montreal Police Department (SPVM). The shooter's vehicle then fled.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/16/17 02:53 AM

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/man-using-snow-removal-equipment-shot-in-verdun

The victim is someone who is “well known” to police.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/16/17 02:29 PM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...-deneigeuse.php

The shooting of the snow plow operator is (HA) biker related.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/16/17 04:04 PM

Rumors are Stefano is defying the new leadership group, and not kicking up to them. I doubt they'd give him a pass considering that. I just don't believe his influence is completely gone, the fact that he's still alive I think proves that he still possesses some sort of "power".
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/16/17 05:35 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
There might be a slim chance that a truce may save Del Balso.
I know it is premature but they actually went a whole 8 days with no incidents.


Could be due to the arrest of Scoppa. However, there have been months without incidents last year. Like always, time will tell.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/17/17 08:20 PM

The Turin Court of Assizes sentenced Alfonso Caruana to 21 years in prison. Caruana, extradited from Canada after years of legal battles, is currently being held in Sicily as a result of another process, but his sentence expires in October 2019.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/18/17 03:05 AM

Originally Posted By: Hollander
The Turin Court of Assizes sentenced Alfonso Caruana to 21 years in prison. Caruana, extradited from Canada after years of legal battles, is currently being held in Sicily as a result of another process, but his sentence expires in October 2019.


Wow, an extra 21 years. I guess they want to make an example out of him.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/18/17 10:41 AM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: Hollander
The Turin Court of Assizes sentenced Alfonso Caruana to 21 years in prison. Caruana, extradited from Canada after years of legal battles, is currently being held in Sicily as a result of another process, but his sentence expires in October 2019.


Wow, an extra 21 years. I guess they want to make an example out of him.


The Italian justice system is complicated, but I think he already served most of this sentence this ruling was just a confirmation of his earlier sentence.
This was the final stage of the police crackdown code-named "Carthaginian" that led to five tonnes of cocaine being seized in March 1994 and the dismantling of the C untrera Caruana clan.
The other process could result in additional years, otherwise he will be out in 2019.
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/18/17 11:39 AM

I really think the loss of THAT shipment gave the Calabrians the opening to build trust in Colombia. That combined with the completion of that port.

Like until then, LCN controlled European coke. Then it became kinda like an open bazzar in Spain, until all the routes and channels really got sewn up...
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/18/17 04:01 PM

Originally Posted By: CabriniGreen
I really think the loss of THAT shipment gave the Calabrians the opening to build trust in Colombia. That combined with the completion of that port.

Like until then, LCN controlled European coke. Then it became kinda like an open bazzar in Spain, until all the routes and channels really got sewn up...


True, the agreement was 70% for CC clan 30% for the 'ndrangheta.

It was the Pannunzi, Miceli, Agate group who took over the Colombian connection after that, while the fathers, who had a history in Canada, are gone (prison or dead) the eldest sons took over the business in Colombia.
Posted By: BlackFamily

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/18/17 04:34 PM

So far what's the body count for this fued on all sides?
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/18/17 06:51 PM

Originally Posted By: BlackFamily
So far what's the body count for this fued on all sides?


Depends on the source. Some consider certain murders unrelated and opinions differ on when the war started. There have been dozens of people killed since 2004. The Montreal underworld became unstable after Vito's arrest, but the actual war started in my opinion with the murder of Domenico Macri in 2006. Around 30 directly related killings would probably be a good estimate, but total murders since Vito's arrest is probably 50+ by now.

There have been several phases. I'd say 2006-2009 was the prelude. Then the actual take-over attempt in 2009-2010 followed by a civil war within the anti-Rizzuto coalition in 2011-2012. Then the counter offensive by the Rizzuto group in 2012-2013 followed by relative peace until last year. You could make a case that these were several conflicts but all in all there has been turmoil and instability for over a decade.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/18/17 10:24 PM

The following are the records that I kept to the best of my knowledge. The fire bombings are not always reported by the press so they may vary. These stats are only mafia related & may vary a little but it gives you an idea.

2009 killed 3 shootings 1 Fire bombings 4
2010 killed 8 shootings 1 Fire bombings 17
2011 killed 3 shootings 6 Fire bombings 9
2012 killed 12 shootings 2 Fire bombings 8
2013 killed 14 shootings 1 Fire bombings 5
2014 killed 4 shootings 0 Fire bombings 5
2015 killed 2 shootings 1 Fire bombings 5
2016 killed 9 shootings 2 Fire bombings 20
2017 killed 2 shootings 0 Fire bombings 7
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/19/17 02:22 PM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/02/18/20-annees-dans-les-ligues-majeures-du-monde-interlope

New book on Montreal organized crime.
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/22/17 01:20 PM

Attempted murder on Salvatore Scoppa.......things are heating up again.

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/02/22/tentative-de-meurtre-a-terrebonne
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/22/17 02:09 PM

Originally Posted By: eurodave
Attempted murder on Salvatore Scoppa.......things are heating up again.

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/02/22/tentative-de-meurtre-a-terrebonne


Here's the link to Daniel Renaud's article about it:

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...de-la-mafia.php
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/22/17 03:21 PM

Amazing, the minute one side gets weakened for whatever circumstances the other side strikes back. I have my doubts this feud will ever end.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/22/17 03:52 PM

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...t-in-terrebonne

Montreal Gazette link
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/22/17 04:27 PM

Wow. Earlier I said I wouldn't write off the "old guard", just yet, especially with Stefano Sollecito supposedly refusing kicking up to the supposed "new leadership", but I wasn't expecting this.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/22/17 05:01 PM

Possible fued between Sollecito and Scoppa? Always intriguing to speculate, but perhaps it's much less interesting and it's all about an unpaid debt. I may misremember, but I thought Salvatore was in trouble with street gangs. There was a price on his head before this war started.

Anyway, with Andrew incarcerated his brother probably has to step up, if he hadn't already.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/22/17 05:30 PM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/02...t-fixes-en-juin

The six accomplices in the murder of the aspiring godfather Salvatore Montagna, killed on November 24, 2011, should finally know their sentence in June, five and a half years after their arrest.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/22/17 07:25 PM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Possible fued between Sollecito and Scoppa? Always intriguing to speculate, but perhaps it's much less interesting and it's all about an unpaid debt. I may misremember, but I thought Salvatore was in trouble with street gangs. There was a price on his head before this war started.

Anyway, with Andrew incarcerated his brother probably has to step up, if he hadn't already.


His last known conflict was with the Arcadi crew.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/22/17 08:05 PM

Originally Posted By: Hollander
Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Possible fued between Sollecito and Scoppa? Always intriguing to speculate, but perhaps it's much less interesting and it's all about an unpaid debt. I may misremember, but I thought Salvatore was in trouble with street gangs. There was a price on his head before this war started.

Anyway, with Andrew incarcerated his brother probably has to step up, if he hadn't already.


His last known conflict was with the Arcadi crew.


Still unclear where he stands, seems like with Sollecito. Even more unclear, who stands with Arcadi?
Posted By: cdn_wiseguy

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/22/17 11:53 PM

I've been saying in all of my posts that it wasn't over. And even though as Sonny pointed out, we don't know for sure that it was finally some retaliation from Rizzuto/Sollecito group, I have a feeling it is. I still think that much like when things first started when Vito went away, there was no retaliation, but that didn't mean that it was over as most news outlets reported. So many at that time said it was over for the Rizzuto group. But the group didn't hand over any of there rackets, they just went to ground and calculated for the opportune time to strike back. Today, there are too many from the inner circle of the Rizzuto's left to have said they were done this time around as well.

As many of us said, if Arcadi and Del Baso stick with the Rizzuto/Sollecito's, this thing is far from over... Didn't Del Baso just get out of prison last week?

Didn't Del Baso just get out 1 week ago?
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/23/17 12:01 AM

What we know about the latest Montreal police scandal

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/What+know+about+latest+Montreal+police+scandal/12968470/story.html
Posted By: SC

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/23/17 01:47 AM

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Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/23/17 03:12 AM

Originally Posted By: cdn_wiseguy
I've been saying in all of my posts that it wasn't over. And even though as Sonny pointed out, we don't know for sure that it was finally some retaliation from Rizzuto/Sollecito group, I have a feeling it is. I still think that much like when things first started when Vito went away, there was no retaliation, but that didn't mean that it was over as most news outlets reported. So many at that time said it was over for the Rizzuto group. But the group didn't hand over any of there rackets, they just went to ground and calculated for the opportune time to strike back. Today, there are too many from the inner circle of the Rizzuto's left to have said they were done this time around as well.

As many of us said, if Arcadi and Del Baso stick with the Rizzuto/Sollecito's, this thing is far from over... Didn't Del Baso just get out of prison last week?

Didn't Del Baso just get out 1 week ago?



Well, there was platinum Sports betting. Which reportedly changed hands and reportedly it was one of the issues between Montagna & Desjardins. Moreno Gallo was said to oversee it until Vito came home and reportedly the Rizzutos had controlled it before Vito unexpectedly died.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/24/17 05:02 AM

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...m-whistleblower

Corruption among the police force.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/24/17 07:06 AM

"Six Montreal area men face extradition to U.S. in telemarketing case"

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...marketing-case/
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/24/17 12:33 PM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/02/23/maxim-roy-dans-une--serie-sur-vito-rizzuto

Vito Rizzuto mistress on TV series.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/24/17 12:53 PM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/02...-de-pots-de-vin

Allegations of bribes scrutinized by SQ police
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/24/17 04:10 PM

Some good insights about the reopening of the Quebec City Hells Angels chapter are contained in the article to which I've linked below. No bunker has been opened yet. There are some good photos that accompany the article.

http://www.journaldequebec.com/2017/02/24/les-hells-sactivent-a-quebec

According to the article, the Hells in the province have exclusive control of the drug trade in the eastern part of Quebec. As well, they are said to control 90% of the flow of drugs in Quebec City, principally cocaine.

One piece of information in the article that stuck out for me is the establishment of an HA chapter in the province of New Brunswick by a former Quebec City HA. The Hells may be furthering their trafficking activity; they seem to be not only importing drugs in eastern Canada's maritime ports but also exporting drugs--for now this is true of the Port of Halifax.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/24/17 09:13 PM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
Some good insights about the reopening of the Quebec City Hells Angels chapter are contained in the article to which I've linked below. No bunker has been opened yet. There are some good photos that accompany the article.

http://www.journaldequebec.com/2017/02/24/les-hells-sactivent-a-quebec

According to the article, the Hells in the province have exclusive control of the drug trade in the eastern part of Quebec. As well, they are said to control 90% of the flow of drugs in Quebec City, principally cocaine.

One piece of information in the article that stuck out for me is the establishment of an HA chapter in the province of New Brunswick by a former Quebec City HA. The Hells may be furthering their trafficking activity; they seem to be not only importing drugs in eastern Canada's maritime ports but also exporting drugs--for now this is true of the Port of Halifax.


I agree it is a very insightful article. It seems that they have cornered all three ports in eastern Canada; Halifax, Montreal and Quebec. The efforts of years past by Mom Boucher and Walter Stadnick in expanding the HA throughout Canada have come to fruition. While the Italian OC's are killing themselves in Montreal HA are planting new flags in other regions of Canada.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/24/17 09:23 PM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
"Six Montreal area men face extradition to U.S. in telemarketing case"

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...marketing-case/


If Rino Magi ends up doing time in the US. Will he be protected in jail or pay for his brother involvement of Nick Rizzuto jr. death.
The Rizzuto's may have to hire a "sicario" to do the job.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/24/17 09:26 PM

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/f...vigne-1.3997042

Gang expert urges Fort McMurray to crack down on drugs.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/24/17 09:32 PM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...nt-rouverte.php

More on HA.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/24/17 10:39 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: antimafia
Some good insights about the reopening of the Quebec City Hells Angels chapter are contained in the article to which I've linked below. No bunker has been opened yet. There are some good photos that accompany the article.

http://www.journaldequebec.com/2017/02/24/les-hells-sactivent-a-quebec

According to the article, the Hells in the province have exclusive control of the drug trade in the eastern part of Quebec. As well, they are said to control 90% of the flow of drugs in Quebec City, principally cocaine.

One piece of information in the article that stuck out for me is the establishment of an HA chapter in the province of New Brunswick by a former Quebec City HA. The Hells may be furthering their trafficking activity; they seem to be not only importing drugs in eastern Canada's maritime ports but also exporting drugs--for now this is true of the Port of Halifax.


I agree it is a very insightful article. It seems that they have cornered all three ports in eastern Canada; Halifax, Montreal and Quebec. The efforts of years past by Mom Boucher and Walter Stadnick in expanding the HA throughout Canada have come to fruition. While the Italian OC's are killing themselves in Montreal HA are plant new flags in other regions of Canada.


True they also infiltrated Vancouver's port a long time ago.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/25/17 12:59 AM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
If Rino Magi ends up doing time in the US. Will he be protected in jail or pay for his brother involvement of Nick Rizzuto jr. death.

The Rizzuto's may have to hire a "sicario" to do the job.


Don't rule out the HA's wink
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/25/17 02:32 AM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: antimafia
Some good insights about the reopening of the Quebec City Hells Angels chapter are contained in the article to which I've linked below. No bunker has been opened yet. There are some good photos that accompany the article.

http://www.journaldequebec.com/2017/02/24/les-hells-sactivent-a-quebec

According to the article, the Hells in the province have exclusive control of the drug trade in the eastern part of Quebec. As well, they are said to control 90% of the flow of drugs in Quebec City, principally cocaine.

One piece of information in the article that stuck out for me is the establishment of an HA chapter in the province of New Brunswick by a former Quebec City HA. The Hells may be furthering their trafficking activity; they seem to be not only importing drugs in eastern Canada's maritime ports but also exporting drugs--for now this is true of the Port of Halifax.


I agree it is a very insightful article. It seems that they have cornered all three ports in eastern Canada; Halifax, Montreal and Quebec. The efforts of years past by Mom Boucher and Walter Stadnick in expanding the HA throughout Canada have come to fruition. While the Italian OC's are killing themselves in Montreal HA are plant new flags in other regions of Canada.


Let's keep an eye out for more news stories about the recently concluded Operation Halfpenny--see link to article below.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scoti...caine-1.3998230

I'm curious as to who the two accused men in Ontario are and what their affiliation is to any large crime groups. I'd also like to know whether the Port of Saint John in New Brunswick was going to be used to import the cocaine.
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/25/17 08:38 AM

Very interesting stuff gentlemen....




I've been saying that you should pay attention to who is in control of the narcotics. That's what will tell you who is in power, much more than the murders.

I've suspected that the HA are maybe the sleeping giant in Canada. What happens when they forge their own connect to Colombia? Which I think, they already have. Mom Boucher put down the " Marlo," method a long time ago, where you position yourself so that no narcotics can be moved on the street without it going through you. Plus, they have patched members, who lead street gangs themselves like Wooley, so they have influence with the gangs as well. You guys tell me, but that looks like a near monopoly on distribution, or at least, the HA control a great deal of it.

That's what gave em leverage to sit down with Vito in the first place, they controlled distribution. Now add in that they control PORTS, so now they call their own shot on IMPORTATION, AND EXPORT. See, look at this, WHY WOULD THEY STILL NEED ITALIANS?

This is the same dynamic that occurred with the Calabrians and Sicilians. People were like, where are the made guys? I'm like, it's all about the dope and coke. Is it, like, there are 150 PATCHED MEMBERS of the HA in Quebec, and this is why they are so strong? Fuck no, it's all about their relationship to the coke.
Until they became organized and marshaled their strength, they would have always been dependent on the Italians ability to provide narcotics, as the Italians depended on them to move said narcotics.
The same dynamics. If you control all the street level sales, have your own relationship to the suppliers in Colombia, ( or Mexico), you call your own shot. If the port of Vancouver is available, it sort of undermines the importance of controlling the Montreal port, UNLESS you are trying to get stuff into NY.

It's like narcotics has its own rules, that don't respect the rules of a criminal organization. You could be a Boss, but if I have a solid connection to dope or coke, I could probably make a business deal with an underling or one of your allies to betray you for money.


Seriously, this whole thing reminds me of the whole second season of Gommorah, lol with the factions, alliances made and broken, retaliations, peace offerings made and broken. Long time leaders gone to ground, waiting to strike...
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/28/17 12:51 AM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/02/27/recrute-sur-le-bs-par-la-police

A welfare recipient & bandit was recruited as a double agent to help police trap Quebec/Ontario traffickers, who were running their business in Porsche, Hummer or helicopter.
The police paid the welfare recipient a salary of $ 240,000 to become a civilian undercover agent. This has to the conviction of six members of the Hells Angels network.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/01/17 01:05 AM

Des kilos de coke entreposés dans la Tour des Canadiens

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/02/28/des-kilos-de-coke-entreposes-dans-la-tour-des-canadiens
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/02/17 01:11 AM

Originally Posted By: antimafia


I wonder how much muscle his clan has left. There were at least 13 that got arrested with police operation "Estacade". His brother was wounded and depending what police found when they raided his home may face charges for the double murder. It doesn't look too good for them. Furthermore, there hasn't been any retaliation yet for his brother attempted murder.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/03/17 04:39 AM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: antimafia


I wonder how much muscle his clan has left. There were at least 13 that got arrested with police operation "Estacade". His brother was wounded and depending what police found when they raided his home may face charges for the double murder. It doesn't look too good for them. Furthermore, there hasn't been any retaliation yet for his brother attempted murder.


I figure 13 guys wouldn't be enough to go up against the Rizzuto group if this is the case. Giuseppe de Vito had more guys working for him. Retaliation may take a while. We'll probably see something happening within a month or two.
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/03/17 02:02 PM

ÉLIMINER SCOPPA ?

C'est aussi dans le bureau de Me Cavaliere que des leaders de la mafia et un acteur important des gangs de rue discutent de l'idée d'éliminer un autre influent membre de la mafia, Salvatore Scoppa (pas accusé dans Magot-Mastiff), afin de «&#8201;préserver le contrôle du territoire&#8201;».

Nous sommes le 20 août 2015. «&#8201;Ils n'ont plus confiance en Andrea et Salvatore Scoppa, en JP [que la police identifie comme Gianpietro Tiberio] et se doutent qu'il y a parmi ces trois individus, une taupe&#8201;», résume la police dans les documents. Le membre de gang de rue affirme être prêt à mettre «&#8201;une balle dans la poitrine&#8201;» de Scoppa «&#8201;pour garder la ville&#8201;». Finalement, un autre mafieux s'oppose à son élimination.

Quatre jours après les discussions sur le projet d'assassinat de Scoppa, le membre de gangs de rue est arrêté et accusé de gangstérisme et trafic de stupéfiants. Les leaders de la mafia décident alors de changer de «&#8201;machines&#8201;» - cellulaires - et de cesser de se parler. Peine perdue, ils seront arrêtés à leur tour plus tard cette année-là.

Il y a deux semaines, Salvatore Scoppa a échappé à un attentat. Personne n'a encore été arrêté en lien avec cette tentative de meurtre.

Note : Les allégations de l'Escouade régionale mixte de lutte au crime organisé de Montréal dans cette affaire n'ont pas encore subi l'épreuve des tribunaux.


http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...de-la-mafia.php


Some pretty eye opening statements here...

1 - The table considered eliminating Scoppa brothers
2 - Members at the table did not get along either
3 - Tiberio is lumped with Scoppas
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/03/17 04:57 PM

^^^^
By the far the most interesting article I have read this year about the Montreal Mafia--thanks for posting!
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/03/17 05:12 PM

So it looks like law enforcement and their charts after the initial Project MAGOT-MASTIF arrests were correct. Cavaliere was the facilitator of the new relationship between Leonardo & Stefano and the Hells & the Syndicate Street Gang and was pretty much the origin piece that the "leadership table" spreaded out from.


The Scoppas were targeted by I'm assuming Leonardo, Stefano & Gregory Woolley, as a way to cement their grasp on the city, it was called off. The main guys were indicted and arrested, and then we get a full scale war. Now idc, how many people dislike me after this, this article shows I was right to first question the involvement of the Scoppas in all this, when shit first hit the fan. As were a few others.


This also shows that the Scoppas sat on the leadership table or "the alliance" alongside Cavaliere, Rizzuto & Sollecito, Cazzetta & Woolley, but that they may not have been all that well liked. Clearly, they posed a threat to Rizzuto & Sollecito.
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/03/17 05:16 PM

Le puissant mafieux décrit son comparse qui siège à ses côtés à la table de direction comme «&#8201;une guimauve&#8201;» et un homme «&#8201;pas de couilles&#8201;». «&#8201;Il n'a pas de colonne pour dire aux autres quoi faire&#8201;», se plaint-il au criminaliste. Me Cavaliere l'ignore, mais son bureau est alors placé sur écoute par la police.

This paragraph above might be mentioning Sollecito, as it's been said numerous times that he lacked true leadership and influence within the milieu.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/03/17 06:06 PM

Yea, the one about the guy being a "marshmellow" and having "no balls".
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/03/17 07:03 PM

Originally Posted By: eurodave
Le puissant mafieux décrit son comparse qui siège à ses côtés à la table de direction comme «&#8201;une guimauve&#8201;» et un homme «&#8201;pas de couilles&#8201;». «&#8201;Il n'a pas de colonne pour dire aux autres quoi faire&#8201;», se plaint-il au criminaliste. Me Cavaliere l'ignore, mais son bureau est alors placé sur écoute par la police.

This paragraph above might be mentioning Sollecito, as it's been said numerous times that he lacked true leadership and influence within the milieu.


You are probably right about Sollecito, I remember reading a news article in the past, mentioning that other members of the table were not happy about his performance.
This latest article mentions that they were suspecting a mole, it never dawned on them that they were being taped.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/03/17 07:08 PM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/03...s-des-policiers

Incriminating Conversation of a Mafioso against Police Officers
A senior officer was recorded telling his lawyer that he is paying bribes.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/03/17 07:16 PM

Translation:

ÉRIC THIBAULT
Friday, 3 March 2017 06:30
Update Friday, 3 March 2017 06:30
"The police are afraid of the casting in the file. That is why internal affairs were involved. It does not worry me, that's why we pay them ... "
This troubling passage from a conversation two years ago between an influential mafioso and the fallen advocate of the Rizzuto clan, Loris Cavaliere, clearly suggests that SPVM policemen would be at the mercy of organized crime.
Yesterday at the end of the day, Judge André Vincent authorized Le Journal and other media to publish this excerpt from the wiretap conducted during a survey carried out by the regional mixed crime fighting squad (ERM).

Recorded without their knowledge
On the afternoon of February 17, 2015, two Montreal mafiosi - whose identities could not be uncovered - were with Mr. Cavaliere in the latter's office on St. Laurent Boulevard.
They were unaware that the ERM had installed microphones with the blessing of a judge.
One of them mentions that "the heat is brutal" for a month, with reference to the pressure exerted by the police.
A month earlier, Sergeant André Thibodeau, of the SPVM, had been arrested in a case of illegal gambling related to the mafia.
One of the mafioses said he knew him, adding that the Montreal police were "afraid of the casting" in the public square in this case and "that's why internal affairs were involved".
When Mr. Cavaliere asks him if it worries him, the mafioso answers: "No, that's why we pay them."
Francoeur Police Brotherhood
On February 2, the Crown itself requested a stay of proceedings in the case of Sergeant Thibodeau. The day before, Mr. Cavaliere was sentenced to 34 months of penitentiary for gangsterism.
The Sûreté du Québec is interested in these bribes in its investigation into the Division of Internal Affairs of the SPVM, Le Journal reported.
It also supports the statements of Yves Francœur, the president of the Montreal Police Brotherhood, to host Paul Arcand yesterday morning at 98.5 FM.
According to Mr. Francoeur, the director of the SPVM, Philippe Pichet, has known for several months that criminal allegations will weigh on members of his staff.
"Jobs of pigs"
He said he had reported three cases to the chief, including a "close relative" who would be in the mafia, and another "interfered in files to bring charges to court".
But these cases have been entrusted to internal affairs which would have smothered them with "jobs of pigs", making "false allegations to attack the police who had denounced [the fault]".

Still no vote of confidence

Minister Martin Coiteux again refused to give a vote of confidence to Chief Philippe Pichet yesterday.
Questioned in Sept-Îles by journalists about his level of confidence in Director Pichet, the Minister of Public Security reiterated - as he said on Tuesday in Quebec City - that he must "shed light on what is happening To the SPVM "and that it is" premature to pass judgment ".
"The issue of trust is a matter between the population and the police service," he insisted. It is the Montreal population, but also the whole of Quebec because the Montreal Police Service has a role to play that goes well beyond Montreal. It is a leading police force for Quebec. "
The minister also assured that the words of the president of the Montreal Police Brotherhood, Yves Francoeur, accusing Chief Pichet of laxity in the face of the alleged corruption of members of his staff, were transmitted to "the extended team that Will carry out the investigations ".
Position in play?
According to our information, these allegations have created a stir in the minister's office, which is waiting for Mr. Pichet to say "what actions he intends to take to restore the situation, to restore the confidence of Montrealers and Quebeckers towards the SPVM". It was not possible to know whether the post of Director Pichet is now at stake.
Under the Police Act, it would not be easy to show him the way out.
The Act provides that the Minister of Public Safety may recommend the removal of any chief of police to the municipality employing him.
But in the case of the director of the Montreal police, the minister must first "take the advice of the council and the public security commission" of the city, who should then give the chief the " Opportunity to be heard.
And ultimately, the government would make the final decision. At the SPVM, it would be never-seen.
- With the collaboration of Emy-Jane Déry
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/03/17 07:21 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: eurodave
Le puissant mafieux décrit son comparse qui siège à ses côtés à la table de direction comme «&#8201;une guimauve&#8201;» et un homme «&#8201;pas de couilles&#8201;». «&#8201;Il n'a pas de colonne pour dire aux autres quoi faire&#8201;», se plaint-il au criminaliste. Me Cavaliere l'ignore, mais son bureau est alors placé sur écoute par la police.

This paragraph above might be mentioning Sollecito, as it's been said numerous times that he lacked true leadership and influence within the milieu.


You are probably right about Sollecito, I remember reading a news article in the past, mentioning that other members of the table were not happy about his performance.
This latest article mentions that they were suspecting a mole, it never dawned on them that they were being taped.



Could it be possible then that other members of the table took it upon themselves to take out Sollecito?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/03/17 07:21 PM

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...d-of-his-duties

Heads are starting to fall.
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/03/17 07:35 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment


Quebec is such a joke.....hahaha

Guys in Ontario are loving this, operating under the radar.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/03/17 07:54 PM

Originally Posted By: eurodave
Could it be possible then that other members of the table took it upon themselves to take out Sollecito?


That sounds like a real possibility now.

Could explain a black hit man on Rocco and could spell doom for Stefano as well. Who the hell knows what happens up there anymore lol
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/03/17 08:02 PM

I know there is corruption everywhere but it just seems that Montreal is more infested and yes it is a joke.

For example in the past you had the police translator that was reporting everything to the mafia, several lawyers getting involved in criminal activities, you had the cop that had a list of informants that he wanted to sell for $1 million dollars to the mafia,several cops,mayors and politicians were caught colluding. You have corruption at every level. Then they want the public to report crimes, that is when it becomes a joke.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/04/17 03:56 AM

"Affidavit raises questions about mobsters bribing cops"

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/affidavit-raises-questions-about-mobsters-bribing-cops/
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/04/17 12:43 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: eurodave
Le puissant mafieux décrit son comparse qui siège à ses côtés à la table de direction comme «&#8201;une guimauve&#8201;» et un homme «&#8201;pas de couilles&#8201;». «&#8201;Il n'a pas de colonne pour dire aux autres quoi faire&#8201;», se plaint-il au criminaliste. Me Cavaliere l'ignore, mais son bureau est alors placé sur écoute par la police.

This paragraph above might be mentioning Sollecito, as it's been said numerous times that he lacked true leadership and influence within the milieu.


You are probably right about Sollecito, I remember reading a news article in the past, mentioning that other members of the table were not happy about his performance.
This latest article mentions that they were suspecting a mole, it never dawned on them that they were being taped.


You're referring to Stefano, not Rocco, right?

It might also be Leonardo Rizzuto, who went from being lawyer to mob boss and therefore may lack credentials in the eyes of the more experienced mafiosi.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/04/17 08:11 PM

I also wonder if there are ties between the Scoppas and the guys of the meeting in the burned down restaurant Cotroni-Violi et al.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/04/17 10:37 PM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: eurodave
Le puissant mafieux décrit son comparse qui siège à ses côtés à la table de direction comme «&#8201;une guimauve&#8201;» et un homme «&#8201;pas de couilles&#8201;». «&#8201;Il n'a pas de colonne pour dire aux autres quoi faire&#8201;», se plaint-il au criminaliste. Me Cavaliere l'ignore, mais son bureau est alors placé sur écoute par la police.

This paragraph above might be mentioning Sollecito, as it's been said numerous times that he lacked true leadership and influence within the milieu.


You are probably right about Sollecito, I remember reading a news article in the past, mentioning that other members of the table were not happy about his performance.
This latest article mentions that they were suspecting a mole, it never dawned on them that they were being taped.


You're referring to Stefano, not Rocco, right?

It might also be Leonardo Rizzuto, who went from being lawyer to mob boss and therefore may lack credentials in the eyes of the more experienced mafiosi.


Yes, I was referring to Stefano.
In the article below some complained that he wasn't a strong leader. It also mentions the HA & the street gangs had several disputes to settle with the mafia leaders.

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2015/09/30/funerailles-et-cocktails-molotov
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/05/17 05:26 AM

"Montreal police chief remains confident as allegations swirl about officers taking Mafia bribes"

http://bit.ly/2mETSB4
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/08/17 05:29 AM

Some interesting relationships are revealed in Paul Cherry's latest:

"Telemarketing case documents shed light on quick-tempered, violent man"

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...ed-violent-man/
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/08/17 02:10 PM

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...utique-downtown

Things may be getting back to normal, more molotovs.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/08/17 02:47 PM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
Some interesting relationships are revealed in Paul Cherry's latest:

"Telemarketing case documents shed light on quick-tempered, violent man"

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...ed-violent-man/


Another Magi being hunted now? Go figure.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/08/17 03:46 PM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/03...ents-a-montreal

Looks like the owner got himself into debts and they even set fire to his car previously.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/08/17 03:50 PM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
Some interesting relationships are revealed in Paul Cherry's latest:

"Telemarketing case documents shed light on quick-tempered, violent man"

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...ed-violent-man/


Interesting enough behind the scene details paint a bigger picture of one's character or how violent the organized crime really is.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/08/17 03:54 PM

http://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2017/03/08/incendie-suspect-dans-un-bar

Molotov fire at bar in Laval
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/08/17 04:06 PM

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/n-d-g-boustan-restaurant-targeted-by-firebombing

NDG restaurant firebombed yesterday.
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/09/17 01:21 PM

There's one common link between the last 3 moltovs, they're all arab operated and owned.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/09/17 02:17 PM

Retired SPVM officer Pietro Poletti has been talking to the media in the last few weeks about Vito Rizzuto's having warned him many years earlier about corruption in the Montreal police service.

Link to English-language article published yesterday (Mar 8/17):

http://www.thesuburban.com/news/city_new...6d24da04fb.html
("Former SPVM detective denounces high-level police corruption")

Link to French-language article published on Feb 22/17:

http://www.985fm.ca/actualites/nouvelles...orr-823113.html
("Dès 2002, Vito Rizzuto avertissait le SPVM de corruption interne")
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/09/17 08:41 PM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...ouve-ligote.php

The son of Cora restaurant chains was tied up and kidnapped.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/09/17 08:45 PM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
Retired SPVM officer Pietro Poletti has been talking to the media in the last few weeks about Vito Rizzuto's having warned him many years earlier about corruption in the Montreal police service.

Link to English-language article published yesterday (Mar 8/17):

http://www.thesuburban.com/news/city_new...6d24da04fb.html
("Former SPVM detective denounces high-level police corruption")

Link to French-language article published yesterday (Feb 22/17):

http://www.985fm.ca/actualites/nouvelles...orr-823113.html
("Dès 2002, Vito Rizzuto avertissait le SPVM de corruption interne")


Interesting article but I don't understand why Vito would tell the Poletti that there is corruption in the police force.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/09/17 09:00 PM

Originally Posted By: eurodave
There's one common link between the last 3 moltovs, they're all arab operated and owned.


Montreal OC never sleep, there is always action.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/09/17 10:00 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
but I don't understand why Vito would tell the Poletti that there is corruption in the police force.


Maybe they were shaking gangsters down?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/11/17 09:01 PM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...-un-arsenal.php

http://www.courrierlaval.com/faits-diver...-ile-jesus.html

Organized crime: the drug trail leads the police to an arsenal

By investigating a drug trafficking network linked to Lebanese organized crime and the mafia, Montreal police investigators thought they would find drugs and money; But, to their surprise, they got their hands on a real arsenal of military-type weapons.

Investigators from the SPVM's Organized Crime Division (COD) would never have thought of making such a discovery by entering the housing of Nicolae Catalin Vinersar on René Laennec Boulevard in Laval on January 12th.

They grabbed a Colt M4A1 submachine gun - a version of the US Army's M-16 assault rifle - a 5.56-mm C-7A1 submachine gun - A Tec-9 submachine gun with high-capacity silencer and charger, an automatic rifle, three 9mm guns and 22 guns, firearm parts, telescopes, multi-caliber ammunition, knives, Cell phones and GPS devices.

Vinersar, 50, an individual with a military profile according to our information, was arrested and charged with drug trafficking and possession of weapons. He has been detained since his arrest. Two others were arrested in the case: Olivian Dimitrescu, 43, who was also accused of drug trafficking and possession of arms, and 50-year-old Sophie Leduc, accused of drug trafficking. She was released pending further proceedings, for a bond of $ 20,000.

Montreal-North

It information from sources and complaints from citizens that the investigators targeted a network of drug trafficking that operated in the borough of Montreal North. "The network was selling and distributing cocaine, marijuana and speed tablets on the street or making deliveries," said Commander Nicodemo Milano of the SPVM's Organized Crime Division.

In spinning one of the members of the network, the investigators noticed that meetings were taking place in a house on Henri-Bourassa Street East and observed for the first time Nicolae Catalin Vinersar. It was by taking an interest in the latter that they spotted his lodging and discovered the cache of weapons.

In three targeted housing units, the bloodhound found 1.7kg of cocaine, 27,000 methamphetamine tablets, three pounds of marijuana, 2kg of greyish paste, 11kg of crystalline white powder, Kilo and a counting machine.

According to our information, Vinersar, who has an almost virgin criminal record, has already been seen during events related to the Rizzuto clan of the Montreal mafia.

The dismantled network reportedly had links with a notorious Montreal mafia player and Ali Awada's group, killed in mid-January, sources said.

It seems that it was because the investigation was not over that the SPVM decided to mediate this seizure only yesterday, almost three months after the strike.

Investigators from the Shared Investigations Department of the Eastern Region of the SPVM and Laval Police participated in the investigation and searches.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/12/17 01:51 AM

Or he could've mentioned it in passing conversation, just giving Polletti a heads up without naming anyone specific, but warning him like "Yea, believe it, there are guys in your police force who aren't on the up and up" and with him most likely having personal experience on the matter, Polletti considered it as a legit warning for the future. I don't know, just a possibility.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/14/17 03:35 PM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
[snip]
Let's keep an eye out for more news stories about the recently concluded Operation Halfpenny--see link to article below.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scoti...caine-1.3998230

I'm curious as to who the two accused men in Ontario are and what their affiliation is to any large crime groups. I'd also like to know whether the Port of Saint John in New Brunswick was going to be used to import the cocaine.


One of the two Ontario men is a lawyer in Hawkesbury, which is close to the Ontario-Quebec border. Quite a few law-enforcement agencies in several provinces were involved in this investigation.

Link:

"Hawkesbury lawyer accused of conspiring to import a tonne of cocaine"

http://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news...nne-of-cocaine/
Posted By: Stubbs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/15/17 04:19 PM

Random thought: I wonder if the Gambinos are at all connected to anyone in Canada? I mean, once the Ruzzutos and the Bonnanos split, I wonder if the Gambinos made any inroads into Montreal and Toronto?

I don't mean that I think they're pulling the strings, but simply making stronger connections with groups in Canada, especially the Ndrangheta.

I think I remember reading that someone from the Gambinos was at some Canadia mafia meeting between Quebec and Ontario in the early 2000's when Vito Rizzuto was still in power.... wonder what the specific connections are and if they've strengthened since the Rizzutos fell off.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/15/17 04:58 PM

Originally Posted By: Stubbs
Random thought: I wonder if the Gambinos are at all connected to anyone in Canada? I mean, once the Ruzzutos and the Bonnanos split, I wonder if the Gambinos made any inroads into Montreal and Toronto?

I don't mean that I think they're pulling the strings, but simply making stronger connections with groups in Canada, especially the Ndrangheta.

I think I remember reading that someone from the Gambinos was at some Canadia mafia meeting between Quebec and Ontario in the early 2000's when Vito Rizzuto was still in power.... wonder what the specific connections are and if they've strengthened since the Rizzutos fell off.


Good question, the Rizzutos always had ties to the Gambinos.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/17/17 04:48 PM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: eurodave
Two of them were tortured and cut into pieces, isn't that more cartel style?


El Tiempo newspaper reported that the body of Quebec City native Frederic Lavoie, 31, was found on May 12, 2014 in the town of Sabaneta, 300 km northwest of the capital, Bogota. His remains were found on a street inside four garbage bags that were leaking blood. He was among more than 100 people sought by provincial police in a massive anti-drug operation launched in 2012 against bikers, the Mafia and their associates.
Timoleon Psiharis, 29, was tortured, doused with acid and beaten to death in Greece in 2012.

It is amazing to what length they would go to kill these guys. Columbia, Greece and Toronto CA. Someone should make a movie about them.


I'm wondering how or why Rabih Al Khalil, one of the four suspects in the murder of John Raposo in Toronto in June 2012, avoided being killed while he was in Greece, as Al Khalil was there (still there?) after Psiharis was murdered--Al Khalil was finally captured in Greece in February 2013 because he faced numerous charges in Canada.

Mihale Leventis, the murdered Lavoie, Psiharis, and Al Khalil were considered four important ringleaders in Project Loquace. Leventis's brother Anastasios was killed this past Monday. So Mihale and Al Khalil are alive now only because they are in prison?


I didn't see Paul Cherry's article about Mihale Leventis that was published online this past Wednesday night--here's the link:

"Man charged in major drug bust can't leave jail to pay final respects to brother"
http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...rothers-funeral

From the article:

Leventis is also fighting an extradition request from the U.S., where he has been indicted in a case filed at a U.S. District Court in New York, on charges alleging he smuggled large quantities of marijuana from Canada to American drug dealers. Leventis is also named, but not charged, in another major drug trafficking case heard in New Hampshire. In that case court documents allege he was the leader of a drug smuggling operation “responsible for the transportation of large quantities of marijuana into the United States by various methods, including 1,000-pound loads delivered by tractor trailers.” In some cases the marijuana was shipped to New Hampshire in black hockey equipment bags. According to an affidavit filed in the New Hampshire case, Leventis met one of the alleged co-conspirators in the case a while both were serving time at a New Hampshire state prison in 2005.

The next date to challenge the extradition request is set for April.
Posted By: Stubbs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/17/17 06:21 PM

Saw this on a website about the history of Montreal and the five families and thought it was interesting:

Quote:
Much of what is known about organized crime is a mixture of supposition or educated guess work; the suspected causes of actions and loyalties derived from conclusions that are often based on a lonely piece of evidence, be it a single publicized news story, rumour or quote that has managed to retain resonance. At times, such information is based on the words of a cooperating witness, which often presents the most reliable method for obtaining any kernels of truth regarding the actions and history of organized criminal groups. Paradoxically, the word of people who have betrayed their compatriots or the values of their sub-culture often become the most trusted sources for glimpses into a caliginous world, one deliberately kept dark and opaque. The consequence of such a reality is that the incidents crime historians and enthusiasts are able to recount or use in their analysis may not be the most significant or even relevant when attempting to accurately understand the actions of individual gangsters or their organizations. Perhaps all that are available for the analyst or author are apocryphal outliers and lies that intertwine between shady characters and villains, tantalizing those who seek to know more.

Compounding the prevalent issue of source credibility is the sometimes mystifying factor of time. Stories and memories tend to dim after moments pass, recollections altering naturally as the thoughts and dreams of the memory-holder evolve with the experiences of their lifetime; such is the reality with all human experience – a truism that is magnified exponentially when the events being remembered exist as wisps of rumours, as they do with the histories of criminals. The story being discussed today, unfortunately, is one that suffers from both the ravages of time and potential inaccuracy in the sources. It is also a story that, regardless of the subtle ins-and-outs, continues to influence the lives of citizens in Canada, Italy, the United States, and beyond, and that has done so for over 80 years. The actions of its characters and their ripple effects creating legacies of criminality, avarice, drug abuse and pain that continue to this day in cities along the north-eastern seaboard of North America.

In this article, PanAmerican Crime will investigate Montreal’s history as a crime nexus for North America and attempt to reveal how it became associated with traditional organized crime syndicates in New York City, developing into the primary source for illegal narcotics on the continent until the rise of Mexican and South American cartels during the latter decades of the twentieth-century. Specifically, today’s tale encompasses the takeover of the Montreal rackets by the New York City-based Bonanno Crime Family over the course of 1953-54 as well as the contacts it established and the networks it operated. During this relatively quick period of time Carmine “Lilo” Galante, the treacherous and notoriously lethal underboss of the Bonanno’s, moved to Montreal at the behest of his boss, Joe Bonanno, consolidating the rackets in the City and, more importantly, streamlining the transportation of drugs in and out of the City’s deep-water port. Once the product – Heroin – had arrived in the City, Galante ensured it travelled either south to his various connections in the crime families of New York City or west to the busy border crossings near Buffalo, New York or further to Windsor, Canada and on to the Detroit borgata (crime family). Other gangsters located in Montreal would make certain that Canadian communities were also included as shipping destinations for the lucrative but deadly product. This process ensured Montreal became the pivoting point for the much-publicized French Connection: a network which brought poppies from Turkey, refined them into opium or morphine base in Lebanon and then transported it through Sicily to the port of Marseille where clandestine laboratories would further refine the product into high-grade heroin for shipment to Montreal and, finally, New York City, Buffalo or Detroit.

Montreal is old, corrupt and filled unreservedly a splendid elan and a zest for life. It is also a city with a deep-water port that can welcome large transport ships, allowing for greater smuggling opportunities within easy driving distance of population centres in central Canada as well as the large cities of the American northeast. Because of its earned reputation for venality, Montreal’s port quickly became a gateway for all manner of illicit merchandise flowing into the continent. Such an opportunity for smuggling was not lost upon the initial gangsters that plagued Montreal’s streets, alleys and wharves. Beginning in the early 20th Century, the City’s reputation for a fun-loving yet discretionary attitude when it came to authority and its previously discussed geographic features drew established criminals from across the continent who sought to take advantage of its topography, loose morals and incredible societal brio.

By the 1930s, established bookies – those who specialize in operating illegal betting rings – from other regions began establishing operations in Montreal. Departing the cities of the American northeast following the abrogation of prohibition and seeking an environment of accepted vice similar to what prohibition had previously created, these career criminals bought property in the City and immediately erected wire rooms directly connected to betting parlours and bet takers across the continent. Known bookies from Cleveland, Cincinnati, New York City and Chicago set up shop throughout the City. However, they often did not come alone or without “protection” acquired from their period of operation south of the border.

It is during this pre-war era that accounts first surface of a young Carlo Gambino arriving in Montreal, it can only be assumed to oversee the Mangano (later Gambino) Crime Family’s share of the illegal betting and any other rackets that this Family had influence over. The other New York crime families, all of which were formally established in 1931 following the Castellammarese War, undoubtedly sent operatives to ensure their shares of the proceeds were collected as well. It is unclear what degree of amiability their relationship with the local gangster element enjoyed, but by the 1940s gangsters of Italian heritage had begun to rise to prominence on La Ile de Montreal, introducing new levels of organization to local criminal undertakings. It was also during this period that trafficking in heroin began to develop as a major money-making activity for North American gangsters, and it can be safely assumed that the New York families soon began to absorb this enterprise into the orbit of their own operations to some degree or another.

In 1944, local Montreal mob power Vincenzo (Vic the Egg) Cotroni and his long-time friend and business partner, Armand Courville, opened the doors of their latest club in Montreal called the Faisan Doré. Also partnering in this operation were two brothers from Marseille, France by the names of Edmond and Marius Martin, and their enterprise was reportedly the trafficking of heroin. It is here, with the opening of the Faisan Doré that the seeds of the French Connection trafficking ring were likely born (or merely the first recognized instance of this network that the general public will ever be aware of). Corsican and French gangsters from Marseille enjoyed the Montreal nightlife, but there was also a pragmatic element to their relationship-building as they required the locally-based bi or trilingual gangsters to help facilitate the introduction of their wares into the burgeoning Anglophone market of New York City. Men like Vic the Egg could speak fluent French, as well as Italian and English, providing a perfect conduit for men from Europe and America to do business; and what better setting than dingy, corrupt and vibrant Montreal to accomplish such business.

The business of drug trafficking would come to define the Montreal borgata. The revenue it would bring in would help draw together local gangsters originating from different areas of Italy and ensure its prominence among the established mob families of the east coast as well as its pre-eminent position in the Canadian underworld. During this period, the groups that would come to comprise the Montreal crime family had their hands in a wide variety of graft and illicit enterprises, including but not limited to: labour union control and extortion; gambling; prostitution; loan-sharking; fraud; as well as good old fashioned stealing in any capacity. By the 1950s the role of heroin in the underworld continued to grow in prominence, not simply in terms of popularity for the suffering addict but also (apart from labour racketeering) as the dominant money-maker for many organized criminal groups. This developing reality, coupled with Montreal’s geographic and social realities discussed above, caused significant criminal interests in New York City to begin plotting to dominate the City’s rackets and drug trade. Given the Bonanno Family’s longstanding interest in the heroin market, (see here for more information on the Families of New York and their history) it came as no surprise that this group became extremely concerned with the trafficking of the product into and out of Montreal.

Giuseppe “Joe the Boss” Bonanno began his career in New York City as a racketeer within the Castellammare del Golfo clan. In the aftermath of the Castellammarese conflict Bonanno would become the country’s youngest godfather of the eponymously named Family and would subsequently inculcate within his borgata a specific appreciation for the profits derived from the trafficking of narcotics. He is thought to have once said to his protégé and underboss, the Machiavellian and dangerous Carmine Galante, that the shortest route to riches and power in the underworld was through the sale of heroin. This knowledge and obsession would drive Galante all the years of his life and eventually lead to his murder at the hands of rival Bonanno Family heroin dealers in 1979. But, before Galante became one of the paramount scourges of the American underworld he began as yet another button man for the heroin dealers operating in the impoverished Lower East Side of Manhattan, supposedly including the famous and deadly Vito Genovese.

By the end of the 1940s Galante had reportedly reached the position of underboss within the Bonanno Family and was wielding considerable influence within his own borgata and beyond. It was during this period that Bonanno began to expand his crime family outside of the borders of the New York area and started to look for other locales in which to plant his Family’s flag. Montreal, for all of the reasons identified earlier, soon became a target of his expansionism. Galante would be sent to Montreal in 1953, and by 1954 he would be deported at the behest of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police; yet, by the end of this one year or so, Galante would completely alter the criminal landscape in Montreal.

Galante’s first move was to align himself with the pre-eminent Italian criminals in the City and bring them under his control. By all accounts he accomplished this plan swiftly and efficiently. Due to Vic Cotroni’s established role as a drug trafficker and racketeer with international connections he soon became one of Galante’s right-hand-men. Whether or not Cotroni was actually given an option to join the Bonanno borgata has never been recorded, but it is likely he was smart enough to see the writing on the wall. Galante would formally initiate Cotroni into the Bonanno Family, as well as his brothers Francesco “Frank” Cotroni and Giuseppe “Pep” Cotroni. Luigi Greco, another prominent Montreal criminal, would be initiated and become Galante’s formal underboss in the Bonanno’s Montreal decina (crew), before Vic the Egg would take it over upon Galante’s deportation. The promotion of Cotroni would establish him, in effect, as the recognized boss of Montreal under the aegis of the Bonanno Family. Cotroni and Galante would also become fast friends, with both standing as godfather for one of each other’s children.

After establishing connections within the local underworld, Galante moved to take over and organize the various rackets in Montreal. One the most important achievements in this regard was his dominance of Local 382 of the Hotel, Restaurant and Club Employees Union, which gave him and his organization unprecedented control over the bars and clubs in the City, which provided innumerable spots for vice and the sale of other illicit wares. But, apart from the prostitution and labour rackets, Galante never lost sight of the purpose of his time in the City – to organize and streamline the transhipment of heroin throughout the continent under the banner of the Bonanno Family. One of Galante’s Bonanno-initiated Montreal subordinates, Frank Petrula, had initially been purchasing Mexican brown heroin from Joseph Bari of the 107th Street Mob, which had, by this time, become a major crew in New York’s Lucchese Crime Family – a family with a history of drug trafficking perhaps longer and more storied than the Bonannos. Seeking to break away from any dependence on members of another organized crime family and to take advantage of his new membership’s ability to communicate with French heroin traffickers – who, along with their Corsican neighbours, had rapidly risen to prominence after the Second World War – Galante soon sent his Montrealers abroad, in search of further reliable sources of supply.

In 1954 Galante would instruct Greco and Petrula to travel to Sicily to meet with heroin contacts there, which apparently included Salvatore “Lucky Luciano” Lucania following his deportation from the United States. The duo reportedly returned with high-grade heroin and the most profitable heroin pipeline ever established at that time was born. Upon their homecoming to Montreal, both Greco and Petrula would become involved in the campaign waged by several within the City’s criminal element to undermine the campaign of crusading mayor Jean Drapeau. Such corrupt practices were seen as essential for ensuring the continued success of the new heroin pipeline and this tradition of venality would continue to plague Montreal until at least 2017, with the conviction of former mayor Michael Applebaum on charges related to corruption and graft. And, given the long history of such practices, it is likely that this custom will continue long into the future.

The period beginning with the 1944 purchase of the bar Faison Doré by Armand Courville and Vic Cotroni in downtown Montreal is one that would define the cityscapes of eastern North America until the 1980s and the rise of cocaine as “America’s cup of coffee.” Heroin and the corrupt politics that enabled its transport and use would transform urban environments and, combined with de-industrialization and the white-flight phenomena, would create the big-city blight that many cities along the east coast and within the “Rust Belt” of North America have never truly recovered from.

Beyond bringing in vast new amounts of the drug, the actions of Cotroni, Galante and Bonanno would institutionalize and regulate the heroin-trade in a way never before envisioned by the traffickers of the 1930s and 40s. By the time of Galante’s deportation from Canada in 1954 he had reportedly formally inducted as many as 20 local members into the Bonanno Family and ensured that all heroin moving through Montreal passed through the hands of that organization. In this way, Galante and the Bonanno Family controlled all wholesale access to the drug during the first phase of the halcyon days of its use in the United States. This systematized control of the product would gradually lead to an expansion in operations, necessitating further association with the European syndicates that supplied the drug. The collaboration between American mob families and their Sicilian counterparts would reportedly be further ratified in October, 1957 at a multi-day meeting held at the now famous Hotel des Palmes in Palermo, Sicily. Bonanno, Galante and several other Family associates reportedly met with the exiled Lucky Luciano and the Sicilian families’ representatives, including the powerful Salvatore “the Little Bird” Greco; and, it is rumoured that at this meeting, besides establishing the latest version of the Sicilian Cuppola (similar in purpose and design to the American Commission), the group prepared the contacts and scheduling required to increase the capacity and management of their narcotics shipments.

The French Connection would formalize smuggling arrangements between the New York, Buffalo and Detroit borgatas, giving each unprecedented access to wealth and political power that would eventually be Bonanno’s undoing in a 1960s mob conflict, known colloquially in the contemporary press as “the Banana Split.” During this period Cotroni and his Montreal cohorts would operate five distinct connections into New York City, one for each specific Family located there. The Bonannos, due to Galante’s pre-eminent role in the conspiracy, had the most direct access to the pipeline, reportedly placing their New York terminus under the control of capo Joseph “Bayonne Joe” Zicarelli. Based out of New Jersey, Bayonne Joe would control the access point until the Bonanno’s “Banana Split” civil war (C. 1964-68), which broke the Family into perhaps as many as three distinct factions. Following Zicarelli, the pipeline access would be split between various Bonanno factions, one of which including Anthony “Tony” Mirra – a prolific trafficker who would eventually be killed by another faction led by Joseph Massino. Philip “Rusty” Rastelli and the successor factions of the Bonanno Family would do battle over access to this pipeline until its eventual dismantlement and the rise of its successor “Pizza Connection” in the 1970s and 80s.

The final iteration of the initial French Connection network would span from New York City to Detroit, Chicago and beyond. The Buffalo Cosa Nostra family, one with dynastic and long-operating personal ties to the Bonanno Family, was overseen by Bonanno’s cousin Stefano Maggadino, who apparently jealously coveted Bonanno’s influence and wealth. While it is rumoured that Maggadino in effect launched the Bonnano civil war by supposedly kidnapping Joe Bonanno in 1964, what is known is that the Magaddino Family controlled its own access to Montreal heroin through its control of the Southern Ontario underworld. In Toronto, the Agueci brothers, who were themselves inducted members of the Maggadino group, oversaw the smuggling of heroin across the border into Buffalo through the Niagara Falls and Lewiston border crossings. It is possible that the Bonanno dominance of the heroin trade and Maggadino’s forced reliance on this in the era after Galante left Montreal is what helped spur Maggadino’s hatred, resentment and violence toward his cousin.

Back in the proverbial volcano – the label assigned to New York City by Joe Bonanno – the Genovese Family’s contact to the Montreal network would be through a renowned trafficker named Louis Cirillo, who was equally well-known for his ability to import large quantities of illicit drugs and his ferocious temper. Cirillo would be at the forefront of trafficking activities in New York City until his arrest in Miami in 1972 for heroin importation. Cirillo’s arrest, and the discovery of over $1 million in his NYC backyard, would actually precipitate the murder of Genovese underboss “Tommy Ryan” Eboli, who had reportedly borrowed up to $4 million from other Cosa Nostra bosses, including Carlo Gambino. Cirillo, under the aegis of Eboli, was putting together a $4 million drug deal when he was arrested. Eboli’s inability or unwillingness to make good on this debt is reportedly why Gambino had him shot down in Brooklyn. Also likely working with Cirillo were important Genovese Family members in the Lower East Side, Greenwich Village and East Harlem (now the Uptown) crews – the historical power bases of the Family – including Vincent “Vinnie” Mauro and Anthony “Tony Bender” Strollo.

The Gambino Family, as evidenced by Carlo’s Gambino’s time in Montreal, was also comprised of various prolific traffickers who would have maintained an interest in the drugs moving in and out of the City. While it is unclear who the specific contact was for the Gambinos, it is certain that such a contact existed. Gambino’s choice for the assassination of Albert Anastasia in 1957 was, according renowned journalist Jerry Capeci, Stephen Grammauta and Stephen Armone. Both were in a Gambino crew based in the Lower East Side of Manhattan and were loyal to Gambino, and their role in such a momentous and important event demonstrates the importance such men (and their profession within the Family) were accorded by their leaders. Perhaps the most likely candidate for the managing partner representing the Gambinos in the conspiracy is Joseph Manfredi, who would be arrested in the early 1970s with the intent to sell 25lbs of high-grade heroin. His two nephews would be murdered shortly after his arrest by other mob members and it can be assumed that such actions were committed to ensure either Manfredi’s silence in the courtroom or, more likely, to avenge the loss of the product or to enforce a debt.

Although the Colombo crime family is often considered to be the least involved in drug trafficking of all of the New York families, this belief may be unfounded as there are many significant traffickers known to operate within that clan. While it is unclear who the Colombo Crime Family liaison was for the French Connection out of Montreal, as there is no known direct contact between the Colombo borgata and the Montreal Family, several candidates are available. Potentially the most likely of these Colombo mobsters to act as the Colombo-Montreal connection was Christoforo Rubino, who was reportedly responsible for the wholesale of as much as 20% of the heroin within New York City during the late 1950s and early 1960s. While the math certainly makes him a serious candidate, many other mobsters may have been involved as well and it is also possible that the primary connection to Montreal for the Colombos and the other New York clans may have shifted over time as various members either fell out of favour with their Family’s administration or were arrested.

Besides the Bonannos, the crime family that remained the most addicted to junk as an indispensible source of Family income remain the Luccheses. As briefly mentioned earlier, based in East Harlem, the precursor group known as the 107th Street Mob would become one the more powerful Lucchese street crews and would remain renowned for the trafficking of heroin right up until the close of the Nicky Barnes era in Harlem. The most important trafficker associated with the 107th Street Mob or crew would be Giovanni “Big John” Ormento. Big John began his trafficking career working with Sicilians from the Catalanotte clan, based in Windsor, Ontario, which was a crew of the Detroit Cosa Nostra Family. The Catalanotte clan is one of several groups in the Detroit crime family that has membership hailing from the Sicilian region of Partinico, giving it ties to gangsters with a similar heritage across the World. The Catalanotte Crew would obtain its product from the Cotroni Crew in Montreal, before shipping its product to its New York City customers, such as Ormento, or onwards to Families in Cleveland and Chicago. Ormento and the Lucchese Family’s long history of trafficking likely means that this group was purchasing its heroin off of the Detroit Family, which in turn was obtaining their supply from Cotroni well before Montreal became a Bonanno stronghold.

As the French Connection intensified throughout the later 1950s and into the 1960s the Lucchese clan continued its reliance upon the narcotics trade, specifically dominating the Family’s original breeding ground in the Bronx and the former Italian enclave of East Harlem. Interestingly, by the 1970s Lucchese soldier Angelo Tuminaro’s network – made famous by his nephew Pasquale “Patsy” Fuca’s 1962 arrest as part of the original French Connection case and the subsequent blockbuster movie – would reportedly be supplied by Louis Cirillo of the Genovese Family. Fuca’s successor, a Lucchese soldier named Vincent Papa, would become reliant on Cirillo as Ormento’s arrest in 1960 and death in 1974 would reduce and then remove one of the major conduits between the Luccheses in New York City and the Detroit Cosa Nostra group. Papa himself would become famous in his own right as the rumoured thief of the heroin confiscated as part of the 1962 case against Patsy Fuca, which Papa stole through his connections within the corrupt New York City Police Department. Throughout the 1970s Lucchese gangsters from the 107th Street Crew, utilizing heroin supplied through Montreal, would remain the primary suppliers for the famous African-American gangsters in Harlem. This pattern would continue even after Galante emerged from prison in 1974 and began re-cementing his hold over the heroin trade in New York City, launching a vendetta-inspired purge of traffickers from the other New York Families that had apparently usurped his trafficking routes and connections.

Gangsters working out of Montreal would continue to supply the eastern seaboard of the United States as well as the Midwest until the major Latin American cartels would establish themselves as the primary supply point for illegal narcotics in the United States – a process that would take well into the 1980s. It is also rumoured that, as Carmine Galante sought to re-assert control over the wholesale heroin market in New York City in the late 1970s, the New York Families would themselves seek new sources of supply in the Far East beyond the Corsicans and their Montreal entry point as the old gangsters of the Marseille Milieu would retire or be put out of business. However, despite losing its place as the nexus point in a heroin trafficking matrix that would literally spread across the Globe, Montreal would continue to stand as a crucial node of ingress for huge amounts of illicit wares seeking access into the North America underworld market. Today, even as trafficking routes and the narcotics of choice have changed with the times, the Montreal mafia clan continues to exert considerable power, not just within the province of Quebec but throughout the North American criminal landscape. As recently as the 2000s its former boss, the powerful Vito Rizzuto, reportedly ran a billion dollar smuggling and narcotic importation scheme with the Sinaloa Federation Cartel right up until his death from cancer in 2013. Rest assured, to this day the Montreal borgata remains neck-deep in the sale of drugs across the continent.

As can be seen, the Five Families of New York City recognized and exploited the unique social and geographical features of the Ile de Montreal almost since their inception in 1931. Beginning with illegal betting and then moving on to the trafficking of heroin, the New York borgatas utilized the conditions they found in the City, helping to create the fun-loving and corrupt place that exists to this day. In this realm of graft, vice and avarice the City’s local Italian and French-Canadian gangsters would formulate their own connections, establishing associations with the French Milieu by 1944 and providing yet another avenue for the larger New York groups to take in their quest for the extraordinary drug profits that are available in North America’s cities. As outlined above, this exploitation allowed them to further streamline the drug trade, forming relationships and networks that would persist, in some form or other, until the present era. Like the many villains and heroes that have influenced the beautiful Ville on the St. Lawrence River, the mafia borgatas that established rackets in Montreal would leave an indelible mark on the culture of the City, erecting precedents and traditions that continue to influence the current daily lives of the residents of North America and City, specifically.


Link to original article. Seems interesting, I didn't realize Chicago and Detroit had connections to Canada as well.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/18/17 07:31 PM

Nicola Di Marco was killed this morning.

Un intermédiaire de haut niveau de la mafia assassiné à Anjou

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...ine-a-anjou.php
Posted By: ForgettableName

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/18/17 08:46 PM

42 pages and the title of this is still accurate, things are far from over. Seeing as he was a Giuseppe De Vito guy its curious to think who took him out, perhaps more cleanup by the now Sollecito/Rizzuto clan.

Side note here's a classic picture of the recently departed.

Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/18/17 08:56 PM

Di Marco and Cun trera also backed Lorenzo Giordano.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/18/17 10:00 PM

It looks like this feud for now is starting to tip in favor of the Rizzuto clan. The Scoppa clan arrests are probably having an impact.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/18/17 11:04 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
It looks like this feud for now is starting to tip in favor of the Rizzuto clan. The Scoppa clan arrests are probably having an impact.


I think this is confusing. As Hollander stated, he was allegedly backing Giordano. In turn, it's unclear where Giordano stood in regard to Sollecito. This hit might have come from either of the warring factions. And how sure are we that it's Scoppa vs. Sollecito/Rizzuto?
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/18/17 11:30 PM

Mafioso Nicola Di Marco whacked in Montreal

The man found murdered this morning in the Anjou district is Nicola 'Big Nick' Di Marco. In 2011 Di Marco was sentenced to more than four years in a penitentiary for possession of a 9mm pistol and for operating a gambling house. In the Clemenza anti-mafia raid conducted by the RCMP Di Marco was again arrested for attempting to smuggle narcotics into prison for his former boss, clan leader Giuseppe De Vito.

Di Marco was considered a 'high-level intermediary of the mafia'. This latest milestone in the Montreal mafia hit parade follows the attempted murder of clan leader Salvatore Scoppa on February 21.

http://gangstersoutt.blogspot.nl/
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/18/17 11:59 PM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: Ciment
It looks like this feud for now is starting to tip in favor of the Rizzuto clan. The Scoppa clan arrests are probably having an impact.


I think this is confusing. As Hollander stated, he was allegedly backing Giordano. In turn, it's unclear where Giordano stood in regard to Sollecito. This hit might have come from either of the warring factions. And how sure are we that it's Scoppa vs. Sollecito/Rizzuto?


Confusing I agree; but I am not so sure he was backing Giordano or Cun trera unless there is an article to that effect that I may have missed. The articles that I read is that he was in Devito's camp.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/19/17 12:27 AM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: Ciment
It looks like this feud for now is starting to tip in favor of the Rizzuto clan. The Scoppa clan arrests are probably having an impact.


I think this is confusing. As Hollander stated, he was allegedly backing Giordano. In turn, it's unclear where Giordano stood in regard to Sollecito. This hit might have come from either of the warring factions. And how sure are we that it's Scoppa vs. Sollecito/Rizzuto?


Confusing I agree; but I am not so sure he was backing Giordano or Cun trera unless there is an article to that effect that I may have missed. The articles that I read is that he was in Devito's camp.


Le Journal de Montréal reported that before his death (also in March) Giordano had secured the support of several high-profile mafiosi. Among them were Liborio "Poncho" Cun trera and Nicola Di Marco.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/19/17 12:35 AM

Originally Posted By: Hollander
Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: Ciment
It looks like this feud for now is starting to tip in favor of the Rizzuto clan. The Scoppa clan arrests are probably having an impact.


I think this is confusing. As Hollander stated, he was allegedly backing Giordano. In turn, it's unclear where Giordano stood in regard to Sollecito. This hit might have come from either of the warring factions. And how sure are we that it's Scoppa vs. Sollecito/Rizzuto?


Confusing I agree; but I am not so sure he was backing Giordano or Cun trera unless there is an article to that effect that I may have missed. The articles that I read is that he was in Devito's camp.


Le Journal de Montréal reported that before his death (also in March) Giordano had secured the support of several high-profile mafiosi. Among them were Liborio "Poncho" Cun trera and Nicola Di Marco.


Thanks,I missed that one.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/19/17 10:18 AM

Di Marco was reportedly also the contact between the mafia and a RCMP employee who became a mole.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/19/17 12:04 PM

Another article about Di Marco's murder:

Le mafieux Di Marco trouvé mort dans un stationnement d’Anjou

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/03...nement-danjou-1
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/19/17 06:57 PM

This is intriguing but yet to be elaborated:

http://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2017/03/19/un-homme-retrouve-inconscient-a-saint-lambert
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/19/17 08:05 PM

Could Poncho be next? I'm not sure we'll know for sure who is on what side until a big name falls I'm afraid. I can understand why there is only 1-2 books about this, it's so intertwined nobody can figure it out! lol
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/19/17 08:06 PM

And did we ever figure out if/when Arcadi and Del Balso are getting out for good?
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/19/17 10:45 PM

Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
Could Poncho be next? I'm not sure we'll know for sure who is on what side until a big name falls I'm afraid. I can understand why there is only 1-2 books about this, it's so intertwined nobody can figure it out! lol


First the attempt on Pizzi and now Di Marco.
Posted By: cdn_wiseguy

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/19/17 11:20 PM

Dixie, I thought Del Baso was released in mid February. I can't find the article so maybe I'm wrong. I'll keep looking.

As for recent events. Like Sonny said, it's confusing. Very hard to tell where Dimarco stood, which means equally as hard to know where the hit came from.

What do we have?

1. Rizzuto/Sollecito group

2. Liborio C. group

3. Arcadi/Del Baso group

4. Scoppa's group

5. Desjardins/Mirarchi (Does Cotroni group fall in this group?)

6. De Vito group (what's left of it)

Every group has been weakened by either authorities and or war. So it could come down to a couple groups coming together.

Also, Some posters mentioned the story that said Dimarco and Liborio supported Giardano... I'm taking a total flyer on this one, so feel free to correct it, but could Dimarco (who was part of DeVito's group according to Daniel Renaud) have been representing the DeVito group? One thing that always sticks out for me is the chart of the Arcadi clan from project colisee which had not only DeVito, but many of his group as part/under Arcadi. If they were at one time under Arcadi, it could make sense that their support would go there. They would be way to weak to try and assume control on their own.

Also, is it just me, or does it seem that Liboria C has kept his group distanced from the Rizzuto/Sollecito group? it once seemed like a natural fit for a coalition, but there are several instances that sees them further apart than when Agostino was alive.


Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/20/17 01:55 AM

If I had to guess I'd say [BadWord] is still with Rizzuto. These Sicilians have been very close for decades and their families were both targeted by the first coup. They share important history.

Di Marco was with De Vito but it's interesting that he was backing Giordano. This could mean that Giordano was usurping Sollecito's reign or that Di Marco and the De Vito group were still at peace with the Sicillians. Ofcourse Di Marco could have also been killed by his own group for supporting Giordano, who used to be a rival of De Vito. As always it could simply be a settlng of old scores or involving an unpaid debt, but the timing is intriguing.

What is clear is that Di Marco had drifted away from the Rizzuto group by aligning with the De Vito group years ago.

I think the situation seems to be even more ambiguous than back in 2011 with more factions at play. As of now it seems like all the different factions trying to gain ground for themselves instead of a collaborating effort like in 2010.

As for the Cotroni group, I suspect they are not necessarily the same group as Desjardins-Mirarchi but more than likely they are friendly at the least.
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/20/17 11:11 AM

Uh oh...things just real again. The crown drops charges against some big names! Maybe Di Marcos murder was pre-emptive

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...ontrealaise.php
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/20/17 11:16 AM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/03/20/17-accuses-liberes-dun-seul-coup
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/20/17 06:42 PM

^^^^
Paul Cherry's article on this developing story will be found at the link below:

Charges to be stayed in major Montreal Mafia bust Project Clemenza
http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...roject-clemenza

From the article:

Charges are expected to be be stayed against the following accused:

Hussein Abdallah, Giuseppe Arcoraci, Ali Awada, Davide Barberio, Antonio Bastone, Roberto Bastone, Mathieu Bouchard, Martino Caputo, Alberto Castronovo, Steve Cecere, Gina Conforti, Liborio Cun trera, Jocelyne Daoust, Mike Di Battista, Michele Di Marco, Sophie Dubé, Alain Duhamel, Giuseppe Fetta, Jaime Flores, Giovanni Gerbasi, Louis-Marie Hébert, Mona Hrtschan, Robert Jetté, Hicham Kachouh, Mike Markos Karounis, Michele Lanni, Fenel Milhomme, Roberto Olacirequi-Martinez, Marcello Paolucci, Andrew Michael Poux, Riccardo Preteroti, Marco Pizzi, Pasquale Silvano, Patrizio Silvano, Luigi Simeone, Jenica Teleu, Angelo Testani, Frédéric Tremblay-Cazes.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/20/17 08:54 PM

Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
And did we ever figure out if/when Arcadi and Del Balso are getting out for good?


http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/02/15/liberte-sous-haute-surveillance

This is the article mentioning Del Balso's release.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/20/17 09:21 PM

The following links are the news articles mentioning the names of those arrested in the police operation Clemenza.
They mention one of the cells was led by DeVito and the other was linked to the Bastone brothers. We also learned by a previous article that the Silvano brothers are in charge of territories held by the D'Amicos.
The other link mentions the the names arrested from the Sicilian cell. This is just food for thought.

http://montreal.ctvnews.ca/rcmp-s-project-clemenza-breaks-up-cocaine-trafficking-ring-1.2897241

http://montreal.ctvnews.ca/rcmp-sq-montr...menza-1.1864820
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/20/17 09:23 PM

You have to wonder if Desjardins raises hell over this due to them dropping the charges against the rest that relied solely on the intercepted messages or did I read it wrong?

Thanks Ciment, I wonder how long he has to wear it? Things will get interesting once he loses the braclet.

So have we heard anything on Arcadi?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/20/17 10:22 PM

Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
You have to wonder if Desjardins raises hell over this due to them dropping the charges against the rest that relied solely on the intercepted messages or did I read it wrong?

Thanks Ciment, I wonder how long he has to wear it? Things will get interesting once he loses the braclet.

So have we heard anything on Arcadi?


This is what I found on Arcadi's release.

http://aboutthemafia.com/montreal-mafia-leader-francesco-arcadi-nears-prison-release
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/20/17 11:52 PM

I thought Arcadi was put back in along with Del Balso once Giordano was hit? That said he must be in something (halfway house) until 2019 and still cannot associate with anyone who is thought to be in the mafia. I got a feeling things will be over before he even gets out fully.

I think the winter of '17 Rizzuto/Sollecito go on trial. If they get out then this year will get very interesting.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/21/17 11:28 AM

Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
I thought Arcadi was put back in along with Del Balso once Giordano was hit? That said he must be in something (halfway house) until 2019 and still cannot associate with anyone who is thought to be in the mafia. I got a feeling things will be over before he even gets out fully.

I think the winter of '17 Rizzuto/Sollecito go on trial. If they get out then this year will get very interesting.


To compound matters it looks like Mirarchi and his accomplices may also be let out of prison in the short future.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/21/17 12:07 PM

ANALYSIS
CLEMENZA, THE SHARQC OF THE MAFIA
DANIEL RENAUD
LA PRESSE March 21,2017
On hearing yesterday of the news that serious charges against 36 close to the Mafia are being withdrawn today, former RCMP civilian analyst Pierre De Champlain tweeted that the Clemenza project, under which These people were apprehended, is the new "Italian SharQc", referring to the end in fish tail of the famous operation of 2009 which was aimed at eradicating the Hells Angels, which today are stronger than they Were.

M. De Champlain does not think so. If Clemenza, which was to be an even larger investigation than Colosseum, is now a sword in the water, the release of some thirty people will have other impacts. Several of them will give oxygen to the Montreal mafia, which is in the shambles, weakened by internal struggles for years by Operation Magot of November 2015.

Many of the individuals who will benefit from a halt to the judicial process are not choirboys. They are suspected of being major traffickers and importers with dozens, if not hundreds, of pounds of cocaine. Some of them were accused of controlling a warehouse in which a machine gun, seven submachine guns, laser scanners, silencers, bulletproof vests and explosives were discovered in February 2011 in Montreal.

Others are involved in the kidnapping of a man to whom his captors claimed 1 million and who owed his salvation only to the interception of the text messages of his torturers by the investigators and to the providential arrival of Policemen of the tactical intervention group while being handcuffed to a bed in a Napierville farmhouse.

The individuals released this morning belong to groups that have been at the heart of the Montreal Mafia war in recent years.

If they had not been killed in 2013, clan leader Giuseppe De Vito and his right-hand man Vincenzo Scuderi were reportedly accused in the Clemenza opration. Assassinated Saturday in the district of Anjou, Nicola Di Marco had been arrested and sentenced in the wake of Clemenza. Another who is due to be stopped in the judicial process today will receive his posthumously, as he was killed last January, while a fifth was the victim of an attempted murder in the fall of 2012. Not to mention Marco Pizzi, who is one of the 11 individuals who remain accused and tried to kill last summer.

WHAT ABOUT THE SEQUEL?

The decision announced today will certainly be hard to swallow for public opinion, which sees judicial judgments halt successively since the abrupt end of the SharQc trial in October 2015 and the Jordan judgment on the time limits given by the Court Supreme Court in 2016. The case of Clemenza is also frustrating for the police, some of the released individuals would have been ready to settle after the plea of &#8203;&#8203;Raynald Desjardins, but the prosecution would not have seized the pole, we were told .

It may now be asked whether the same fate awaits the 11 individuals arrested in the last phase of Clemenza in May 2016 and still accused. Details of the technology used to intercept the suspects' text messages and their weaknesses, which would involve Research in Motion (RIM) and the United States, and which the prosecution does not want to disclose to the defense, Of the problem. If the rest of the case gives reason to the defense, then how will the fate of the remaining 11 accused be different?

It seems that the RCMP and the prosecution would not have been on the same wavelength in the management of this arm, which would have given rise to some animated discussions.

As if that was not enough, our sources tell us that the protégé of Raynald Desjardins, Vittorio Mirarchi, and his accomplices, who should receive in June their sentence for the murder of the aspiring godfather Salvatore Montagna, would not stay very long in prison.

Like the Hells Angels, believed to be moribund in 2009, the Montreal mafia will rise again.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/21/17 06:57 PM

"11 who remain accused in Project Clemenza will have a hearing in May"
http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...-hearing-in-may

From the article:

Included among the people who no longer face any charges is Liborio Cun trera, 48, of Laval, a man alleged to be one of the current leaders in the Montreal Mafia. Cun trera’s father, Agostino, was murdered in St-Léonard in 2010 when the Rizzuto organization was under attack. Cun trera was charged last year with trafficking in cocaine on May 17, 2011. Another two charges that were stayed on Tuesday alleged that he and Marco Pizzi, 47, of Montreal North, conspired to traffic in cocaine during a nine-day period in 2011.

Pizzi faces charges in another indictment filed in Project Clemenza and he is one of the 11 accused who still have charges pending.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/21/17 11:55 PM

Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
You have to wonder if Desjardins raises hell over this due to them dropping the charges against the rest that relied solely on the intercepted messages or did I read it wrong?


It's his own fault he pleaded guilty instead of a trial. I don't get it why it takes so long to go on trial in Quebec.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/22/17 08:29 PM

Originally Posted By: Hollander
It's his own fault he pleaded guilty instead of a trial. I don't get it why it takes so long to go on trial in Quebec.


True, but that was their main evidence against him and the others. I don't know enough about Canada's laws and stuff to guess. I know the others were set to plead guilty but surely that has changed too unless they've already pled.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/23/17 11:09 PM

The Sicilia family, whose drug trafficking network was dismantled in 2015, wants to recover some of the large sums that have been seized.

http://www.lecourrierdusud.ca/faits-dive...--a-l-etat.html

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...mparaissent.php
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/24/17 11:33 AM

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...lent-kidnapping

Montreal Mafia: Charges stayed in Project Clemenza included a violent kidnapping
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/28/17 12:55 PM

http://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2017/03/28/un-restaurant-vise-par-un-incendie-criminel

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...de-montreal.php

Restaurant and house targeted by arsonist(s).
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/30/17 12:31 PM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/03/30/un-autre-incendie-suspect-au-mediterraneo

Another suspect fire at restaurant Mediterraneo.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/30/17 04:56 PM

Cocaine had been transported between Canada and Bahamas on more than one occasion. Two suspects so far are French-Canadians.

"Emergency landing in Ohio leads to cocaine discovery, 2 Quebecers arrested"

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...ecers-arrested/
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/30/17 08:15 PM

^^^^
Paul Cherry's article has been updated. The plane carrying the coke was destined for Windsor, Ontario.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/31/17 07:02 PM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...78_section_POS1

An influential member of the mafia has been freed from prison.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/07/17 11:11 PM

"Judge denies request to throw out Montreal mob-related murder case"

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...ed-murder-case/
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/11/17 02:45 AM

"Police break up alleged cocaine ring with ties to bikers and Montreal Mafia"

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...montreal-mafia/
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/11/17 02:29 PM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...-a-montreal.php

Cocaine seized in Ohio was destined for Montreal.

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/04...els-et-la-mafia

Lebanese mafia providing drugs to bikers and mafia.

Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/12/17 08:17 PM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/04/12/personne-ne-veut-devenir-le-nouveau-parrain-de-la-mafia

Nobody wants the godfather job in Montreal
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/12/17 08:22 PM

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/police-seek-suspect-in-fraud-scheme-targeting-elderly

Police seek suspect in fraud scheme targeting elderly
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/15/17 03:04 PM

Link below is to Éric Thibault's article that was published today. It gives you a better idea of the Hells Angels' drug-trafficking activity and how much the group is earning.

Les Hells Angels «s'en sacrent»

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/04/15/les-hells-angels-sen-sacrent
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/18/17 10:59 PM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...eure-detenu.php

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...rafficking-case

Alleged Montreal mafia leader denied bail.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/19/17 01:47 PM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
Link below is to Éric Thibault's article that was published today. It gives you a better idea of the Hells Angels' drug-trafficking activity and how much the group is earning.

Les Hells Angels «s'en sacrent»

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/04/15/les-hells-angels-sen-sacrent


Good article it updates us on the current prices and profits.
A lot money to be made in drug trafficking,that is why there will always be someone to replace them if things go bad.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/19/17 01:49 PM

http://www.grc.gc.ca/en/news/2017/18/cannabis-and-cocaine-trafficking-five-suspects-arrested

Cannabis and Cocaine Trafficking: Five Suspects Arrested
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/19/17 01:55 PM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/04/18/un-hells-en-prison-pour-une-info-non-confirmee

A former senior officer of the Hells Angels that was recently released from jail, is back behind bars because he is suspected of plotting to commit murder.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/19/17 04:01 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment


So in the earlier part of this Project Cendrier investigation, law enforcement indicated cocaine headed for Montreal got there via Los Angeles and Houston--see http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/en/news/2016/7...pects-arrested. The Quebecers just arrested all seem to be French-Canadian.

From the article in the thread you started a few weeks ago about the cocaine trafficking ring that saw cocaine from California going to Ontario (http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/ubbthr...0297#Post910297), we learned from the RCMP that traffickers shipping coke from the US to Ontario often use LA and Houston as distribution centres, "along major highways to Canadian land ports in Ontario, including Windsor, Sarnia and Sault Ste. Marie." The individuals arrested in the Waterloo Region in Ontario appeared to be a mix of Greek-Canadians, Serbian- or Croatian-Canadians, and some other ethnicities.

The cocaine trade in Canada is too big to be dominated by any one crime group. Yes, there are big players. But even the big players have not been able to reverse the direction of the flow of cocaine--the US is still a transshipment point for coke that is on its way to Canada. This is why I get so frustrated when control of the Port of Montreal is cited as a reason or even the reason for the mob war in Montreal. A mob war that, incidentally, may be far from over.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/19/17 08:21 PM

Am I the only one who thinks that Andrew Scoppa start to physically look a little bit like Vito Rizzuto?

Daniel Renaud once stated that he was a man of honor or made member, but if he was under Gallo I doubt it. It seems that as of today the made member status in Montreal doesn't mean that much anymore, it certainly doesn't protect the person. I think that Giuseppe De Vito also wasn't a made member yet he was one of the biggest players.

I think it would be intriguing if certain individuals are still connected to New York. I think connections still make the difference for anyone who wants to assume the top spot. As of now that seems to be a potential death sentence. I very much doubt nobody wants to be the big boss, they just don't want to be marked, so they keep a low profile until the time is right.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/20/17 01:54 AM

I agree that drug traffickers have been trending to include people from different ethnicities but these individuals, to the best of my knowledge, do not control large territories as bikers, mafia or other major OC groups.I wouldn't be surprised to find out that each of these ethnicities have ties to major OC groups.
You do make a good observation about this ethnicity trend , maybe the major OC are adapting and are willing to do business with whomever is able to obtain their merchandise.
With regards to the port of Montreal, it as been for decades, controlled by the Montreal Irish mafia. The Irish mafia have always done business with both the bikers and the Mafia. Although in recent years the Irish mafia have been losing influence, it could be possible that the bikers/mafia may control it one day. I also agree with you that the port of Montreal is one of the many entry points where they can bring in their drugs.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/20/17 02:18 AM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Am I the only one who thinks that Andrew Scoppa start to physically look a little bit like Vito Rizzuto?

Daniel Renaud once stated that he was a man of honor or made member, but if he was under Gallo I doubt it. It seems that as of today the made member status in Montreal doesn't mean that much anymore, it certainly doesn't protect the person. I think that Giuseppe De Vito also wasn't a made member yet he was one of the biggest players.

I think it would be intriguing if certain individuals are still connected to New York. I think connections still make the difference for anyone who wants to assume the top spot. As of now that seems to be a potential death sentence. I very much doubt nobody wants to be the big boss, they just don't want to be marked, so they keep a low profile until the time is right.


About the physical appearance, Andrew looks more scarier than Vito. Remember, Andrew fought his way up the ranks from the streets. Vito was groomed and appointed.

If there is connections to NY, it would come from the Sicilian camp.
I agree with you, they want the boss job but not the spotlight; especially when a war is being waged.
Posted By: Stubbs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/20/17 04:22 AM

Though Ciment, the group in power before Rizzuto (Cotroni, Violi, etc.) weren't Sicilians but they were closer than the Rizzutos to New York / The Bonannos.

I wonder if anyone left in Montreal is close to Cali and the current Gambino, Sicilian leafership group. That would be a better alliance than the Bonannos.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/20/17 11:20 AM

Originally Posted By: Stubbs
Though Ciment, the group in power before Rizzuto (Cotroni, Violi, etc.) weren't Sicilians but they were closer than the Rizzutos to New York / The Bonannos.

I wonder if anyone left in Montreal is close to Cali and the current Gambino, Sicilian leafership group. That would be a better alliance than the Bonannos.


However true that the Cotroni's had close ties to the Bonanno's at one point, the MTL Sicilian clan always did have blood relations with some of the NY members. The likelihood of any future relationship may come from the Sicilian clan but anything is possible.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/20/17 11:37 AM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Am I the only one who thinks that Andrew Scoppa start to physically look a little bit like Vito Rizzuto?

Daniel Renaud once stated that he was a man of honor or made member, but if he was under Gallo I doubt it. It seems that as of today the made member status in Montreal doesn't mean that much anymore, it certainly doesn't protect the person. I think that Giuseppe De Vito also wasn't a made member yet he was one of the biggest players.

I think it would be intriguing if certain individuals are still connected to New York. I think connections still make the difference for anyone who wants to assume the top spot. As of now that seems to be a potential death sentence. I very much doubt nobody wants to be the big boss, they just don't want to be marked, so they keep a low profile until the time is right.


About the physical appearance, Andrew looks more scarier than Vito. Remember, Andrew fought his way up the ranks from the streets. Vito was groomed and appointed.

If there is connections to NY, it would come from the Sicilian camp.
I agree with you, they want the boss job but not the spotlight; especially when a war is being waged.


Agreed about Scoppa. As for connections, historically speaking it seems that the Cotronis were closer to the Bonannos than the Rizzutos. But I'm going all the way back to the 1970s. You may be right that the Sicillians, especially the ones who were close to Montagna have more connections. I doubt however that any of them will ever assume the top spot.

Biggest candidates are imo: Cun trera, Scoppa or a Cotroni.

But Sollecito or Arcadi aren't to be ruled out and I think even Leonardo Rizzuto might remain influential.

Btw, do you know the correct translation of the last sentence of the Scoppa article? Google states that "both Scoppa's aren't in good shape". I don't think that's to be taken literally because both are gym fanatics, lol.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/20/17 11:57 AM

I agree with Cun trera , Scoppa or Cotroni but not so sure about Sollecito or Arcadi they seem to lack respect from the ranks.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/20/17 09:16 PM

Scoppa has that receding hairline like Rizzuto had but that is about it, by my eyes anyways.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/21/17 01:54 PM

Link to French-language article is below:

"Un important réseau de trafic de cocaïne démantelé"
http://plus.lapresse.ca/screens/546894f2-78db-44e5-8ce0-8037b14b8e35%7ClDkSxpIyq_o-.html

Please note that in the article, the copy "crime organisé traditionnel québécois" does not refer to Italian traditional organized crime.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/21/17 02:24 PM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Am I the only one who thinks that Andrew Scoppa start to physically look a little bit like Vito Rizzuto?

Daniel Renaud once stated that he was a man of honor or made member, but if he was under Gallo I doubt it. It seems that as of today the made member status in Montreal doesn't mean that much anymore, it certainly doesn't protect the person. I think that Giuseppe De Vito also wasn't a made member yet he was one of the biggest players.

I think it would be intriguing if certain individuals are still connected to New York. I think connections still make the difference for anyone who wants to assume the top spot. As of now that seems to be a potential death sentence. I very much doubt nobody wants to be the big boss, they just don't want to be marked, so they keep a low profile until the time is right.


About the physical appearance, Andrew looks more scarier than Vito. Remember, Andrew fought his way up the ranks from the streets. Vito was groomed and appointed.

If there is connections to NY, it would come from the Sicilian camp.
I agree with you, they want the boss job but not the spotlight; especially when a war is being waged.


Agreed about Scoppa. As for connections, historically speaking it seems that the Cotronis were closer to the Bonannos than the Rizzutos. But I'm going all the way back to the 1970s. You may be right that the Sicillians, especially the ones who were close to Montagna have more connections. I doubt however that any of them will ever assume the top spot.

Biggest candidates are imo: Cun trera, Scoppa or a Cotroni.

But Sollecito or Arcadi aren't to be ruled out and I think even Leonardo Rizzuto might remain influential.

Btw, do you know the correct translation of the last sentence of the Scoppa article? Google states that "both Scoppa's aren't in good shape". I don't think that's to be taken literally because both are gym fanatics, lol.


The last sentence of that article (http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...eure-detenu.php)

Depuis des années, des informations parviennent à la police voulant que les deux frères Scoppa ne soient pas en bon terme.

means that for many years, information has made its way to the police arguing, or claiming, that the Scoppa brothers (Andrea, Salvatore) are not on good terms.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/21/17 07:54 PM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Am I the only one who thinks that Andrew Scoppa start to physically look a little bit like Vito Rizzuto?

Daniel Renaud once stated that he was a man of honor or made member, but if he was under Gallo I doubt it. It seems that as of today the made member status in Montreal doesn't mean that much anymore, it certainly doesn't protect the person. I think that Giuseppe De Vito also wasn't a made member yet he was one of the biggest players.

I think it would be intriguing if certain individuals are still connected to New York. I think connections still make the difference for anyone who wants to assume the top spot. As of now that seems to be a potential death sentence. I very much doubt nobody wants to be the big boss, they just don't want to be marked, so they keep a low profile until the time is right.


About the physical appearance, Andrew looks more scarier than Vito. Remember, Andrew fought his way up the ranks from the streets. Vito was groomed and appointed.

If there is connections to NY, it would come from the Sicilian camp.
I agree with you, they want the boss job but not the spotlight; especially when a war is being waged.


Agreed about Scoppa. As for connections, historically speaking it seems that the Cotronis were closer to the Bonannos than the Rizzutos. But I'm going all the way back to the 1970s. You may be right that the Sicillians, especially the ones who were close to Montagna have more connections. I doubt however that any of them will ever assume the top spot.

Biggest candidates are imo: Cun trera, Scoppa or a Cotroni.

But Sollecito or Arcadi aren't to be ruled out and I think even Leonardo Rizzuto might remain influential.

Btw, do you know the correct translation of the last sentence of the Scoppa article? Google states that "both Scoppa's aren't in good shape". I don't think that's to be taken literally because both are gym fanatics, lol.


The last sentence of that article (http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...eure-detenu.php)

Depuis des années, des informations parviennent à la police voulant que les deux frères Scoppa ne soient pas en bon terme.

means that for many years, information has made its way to the police arguing, or claiming, that the Scoppa brothers (Andrea, Salvatore) are not on good terms.


Interesting, thanks antimafia.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/22/17 09:31 AM


LONGUEUIL
A LARGE NETWORK OF COCAINE TRAFFICKING DISMANTLED
DANIEL RENAUD
LA PRESSE April 21, 2017
The police in Longueuil yesterday dismantled a cocaine distribution network that managed to escape the police radar for a few years until becoming an organization able to sell for more than 1.5 million dollars of this drug every week.

"The investigation shows that the organization has distributed between 20 and 30 kilos of cocaine per week. Put the cost of the kilo at $ 50,000 or $ 55,000, and do the math. And at this price, the drug is not yet cut off, "says Pierre Duquette, a specialized crime inspector for the Longueuil Police Service (SPAL).

At 5 am yesterday, investigators from the Longueuil Police Network unit, assisted by their colleagues from the Richelieu Saint-Laurent Police Department, the Châteauguay police, the SQ and the RCMP, searched A dozen homes of Saint-Mathieu-de-Beloeil, Mont-Saint-Hilaire and Boucherville, as well as a warehouse in Beloeil that served as a cache for drugs.

Thirteen individuals were targeted. At the time of writing, ten of them had been arrested and three were wanted. Some suspects have been released while others are expected to appear today to face charges related to trafficking in cocaine and methamphetamine.

According to a partial assessment made mid-afternoon yesterday, investigators have seized up to now over $ 70,000 in cash, two kilos of cocaine, several hundred pills and nine vehicles used by the suspects.

WITH BIKERS
The disbanded organization would be independent and described as part of traditional organized crime in Quebec. It would have supplied other criminal organizations including the Devils Ghosts, a junior Hells Angels club.

The police assessed that the territory served by the organization was delimited by the sectors of Roussillon, Mont-Saint-Hilaire, Longueuil and Varennes. Historically, this territory is controlled by the South section of the Hells Angels, but nothing in the investigation has shown that the organization paid a tax to motorcyclists.

"It was a very well structured organization with a lot of contacts. The suspects used PGPs [encrypted messaging] to communicate. They were supplying themselves in an X-room with pounds, providing mid-level players who, in turn, were supplying players of lower level, "says Duquette.

It was not possible to know whether the organization was also importing. The investigation, called Sentence, began last September. Obviously, having escaped the police attention during a few years allowed the organization to take a significant place on the territory of Monterrey.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/22/17 10:37 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
I agree with Cun trera , Scoppa or Cotroni but not so sure about Sollecito or Arcadi they seem to lack respect from the ranks.


Desjardins.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/23/17 01:25 PM

Originally Posted By: Hollander
Originally Posted By: Ciment
I agree with Cun trera , Scoppa or Cotroni but not so sure about Sollecito or Arcadi they seem to lack respect from the ranks.


Desjardins.


Desjardins himself admitted that he can never be boss because he wasn't Italian. This was caught in surveillance tapes. The rising star Mirarchi is a possibility, he seems to have ties to the Ndrangheta in Ontario.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/23/17 01:50 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: Hollander
Originally Posted By: Ciment
I agree with Cun trera , Scoppa or Cotroni but not so sure about Sollecito or Arcadi they seem to lack respect from the ranks.


Desjardins.


Desjardins himself admitted that he can never be boss because he wasn't Italian. This was caught in surveillance tapes. The rising star Mirarchi is a possibility, he seems to have ties to the Ndrangheta in Ontario.


Not as a boss of the Italians, but Raynald is a leader in his own right.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/23/17 03:21 PM

Originally Posted By: Hollander
Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: Hollander
Originally Posted By: Ciment
I agree with Cun trera , Scoppa or Cotroni but not so sure about Sollecito or Arcadi they seem to lack respect from the ranks.


Desjardins.


Desjardins himself admitted that he can never be boss because he wasn't Italian. This was caught in surveillance tapes. The rising star Mirarchi is a possibility, he seems to have ties to the Ndrangheta in Ontario.


Not as a boss of the Italians, but Raynald is a leader in his own right.


I agree, he has proven to be a leader.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/23/17 08:05 PM

Originally Posted By: Hollander
Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: Hollander
Originally Posted By: Ciment
I agree with Cun trera , Scoppa or Cotroni but not so sure about Sollecito or Arcadi they seem to lack respect from the ranks.


Desjardins.


Desjardins himself admitted that he can never be boss because he wasn't Italian. This was caught in surveillance tapes. The rising star Mirarchi is a possibility, he seems to have ties to the Ndrangheta in Ontario.


Not as a boss of the Italians, but Raynald is a leader in his own right.


I was talking about the Montreal Mafia. Besides not being Italian, he also has health issues. And he killed a made member from New York which doesn't help.

Imo, it seems that the guys who are in the best position to gain unanimous support are the ones mentioned. Someone who was at the center of the mob war probably still has too many enemies and bad blood to be widely accepted. This turned out to be a problem for anyone other than Vito Rizzuto.
Posted By: Dwalin2011

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/23/17 11:09 PM

But isn't Mirarchi still in jail? I thought he was one of the defendants in the Montagna murder trial, as was Desjardins. Were the charges against him dropped or is he out on bail?

By the way, I still think they shouldn't have allowed Desjardins to plead guilty and get only 14 years. They should have tried getting him a life sentence or nothing. Not because I am sorry for Montagna or anything, it's just this was the only chance (although a small one) to get Desjardins to flip. I understand that it would have been unlikely anyway, he already did about 10 years for drugs (I think) and didn't talk, but with more decades behind bars, maybe he would have given up after waiting another 10 or 15 years. He isn't that young after all. This was the only chance to get at least some information about who is fighting whom, who is in charge in the Mafia in Canada now etc. Nobody else knows as much as Desjardins, among the ones who are still alive I think. All (or almost all?) of the older high ranking Mafiosi in Montreal who went through the major events, have been killed already, Vito Rizzuto died by himself, Mirarchi is too young to know things that happened when Desjardins was already active. The ones still around probably are mostly younger ones and/or former "secondary characters" who are "filling the void" left by all those whacked pro-Rizzuto and anti-Rizzuto faction members...
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/24/17 06:27 PM

Only the second incident described in the article (to which I've posted a link below) may be related to tensions within the Montreal Mafia.

"Deux incendies à Montréal"

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...-a-montreal.php
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/24/17 07:38 PM

Originally Posted By: Dwalin2011
But isn't Mirarchi still in jail? I thought he was one of the defendants in the Montagna murder trial, as was Desjardins. Were the charges against him dropped or is he out on bail?

By the way, I still think they shouldn't have allowed Desjardins to plead guilty and get only 14 years. They should have tried getting him a life sentence or nothing. Not because I am sorry for Montagna or anything, it's just this was the only chance (although a small one) to get Desjardins to flip. I understand that it would have been unlikely anyway, he already did about 10 years for drugs (I think) and didn't talk, but with more decades behind bars, maybe he would have given up after waiting another 10 or 15 years. He isn't that young after all. This was the only chance to get at least some information about who is fighting whom, who is in charge in the Mafia in Canada now etc. Nobody else knows as much as Desjardins, among the ones who are still alive I think. All (or almost all?) of the older high ranking Mafiosi in Montreal who went through the major events, have been killed already, Vito Rizzuto died by himself, Mirarchi is too young to know things that happened when Desjardins was already active. The ones still around probably are mostly younger ones and/or former "secondary characters" who are "filling the void" left by all those whacked pro-Rizzuto and anti-Rizzuto faction members...


Last article I read about Mirarchi and others involved is that there is a possibility that they may get a stay in sentencing this means that they can be out in the near future. Desjardins may be a different matter because he pleaded guilty.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/24/17 09:09 PM

I seriously doubt Desjardins has any worries about repercussions for killing Montagna other than from the Mounties. The Bonanno's are not after him, it's the Sicilian's in Montreal that he will have to worry about. Mirarchi is his only shot at living. But him killing a made member doesn't mean shit in Montreal anymore unless the guy was a Rizzuto or Ndrangheta.

As for his sentencing, I don't know Canada's laws but I wonder if he gets out of that plea agreement since the evidence couldn't be used. I don't think I've seen a case like that before.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/25/17 04:20 AM

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...spector-general

Montreal towing industry run by organized crime.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/25/17 11:29 AM

Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
I seriously doubt Desjardins has any worries about repercussions for killing Montagna other than from the Mounties. The Bonanno's are not after him, it's the Sicilian's in Montreal that he will have to worry about. Mirarchi is his only shot at living. But him killing a made member doesn't mean shit in Montreal anymore unless the guy was a Rizzuto or Ndrangheta.


Yes Mirarchi is the key guy and you also have the Neapolitan Felice Racaniello.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/25/17 04:52 PM

"Arson suspected in early morning fire at Rizzuto-linked funeral home"

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...d-funeral-home/
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/25/17 07:02 PM

http://globalnews.ca/news/3402037/fire-started-at-loreto-funeral-home-in-saint-leonard/

More info. on Loreto fire.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/25/17 08:15 PM

Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
I seriously doubt Desjardins has any worries about repercussions for killing Montagna other than from the Mounties. The Bonanno's are not after him, it's the Sicilian's in Montreal that he will have to worry about. Mirarchi is his only shot at living. But him killing a made member doesn't mean shit in Montreal anymore unless the guy was a Rizzuto or Ndrangheta.

As for his sentencing, I don't know Canada's laws but I wonder if he gets out of that plea agreement since the evidence couldn't be used. I don't think I've seen a case like that before.


Agreed that he has more to worry about the old Rizzuto group in Montreal than the Bonannos in New York. Other than putting a contract on him, of which there is anecdotal evidence, I doubt the Bonannos are inclined to send anyone over, but they don't need to either given the fact that Desjardins already has enemies over there looking to kill him. I think he still is, and will remain, a high priority target in Montreal.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/25/17 09:54 PM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
I seriously doubt Desjardins has any worries about repercussions for killing Montagna other than from the Mounties. The Bonanno's are not after him, it's the Sicilian's in Montreal that he will have to worry about. Mirarchi is his only shot at living. But him killing a made member doesn't mean shit in Montreal anymore unless the guy was a Rizzuto or Ndrangheta.

As for his sentencing, I don't know Canada's laws but I wonder if he gets out of that plea agreement since the evidence couldn't be used. I don't think I've seen a case like that before.


Agreed that he has more to worry about the old Rizzuto group in Montreal than the Bonannos in New York. Other than putting a contract on him, of which there is anecdotal evidence, I doubt the Bonannos are inclined to send anyone over, but they don't need to either given the fact that Desjardins already has enemies over there looking to kill him. I think he still is, and will remain, a high priority target in Montreal.


You can't leave out the Arcuri's, they have always been loyal to the Bonanno's. Everytime there is a conflict they come out of obscurity and become part of an alliance.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/25/17 10:42 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...spector-general

Montreal towing industry run by organized crime.


It's not easy to say no with the HA at your door.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/26/17 11:17 AM

Looks like the Loreto fire is a symbolic attack.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/26/17 09:32 PM

Originally Posted By: Hollander
Looks like the Loreto fire is a symbolic attack.


The last time it happened was when Nick Rizzuto was still alive. I think that attack in 2010 was a sign for him to step down. Could this have the same underlying message? If so, does that mean that the family (Leonardo?) is still in a position of power?
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/27/17 09:47 AM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: Hollander
Looks like the Loreto fire is a symbolic attack.


The last time it happened was when Nick Rizzuto was still alive. I think that attack in 2010 was a sign for him to step down. Could this have the same underlying message? If so, does that mean that the family (Leonardo?) is still in a position of power?


It's such an important place for the Italian community as a whole, the attack could have big consequences.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/27/17 11:38 AM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: Hollander
Looks like the Loreto fire is a symbolic attack.


The last time it happened was when Nick Rizzuto was still alive. I think that attack in 2010 was a sign for him to step down. Could this have the same underlying message? If so, does that mean that the family (Leonardo?) is still in a position of power?


The previous attack, which was pathetically executed, happened on January 6, 2011, about two months after Nick Sr.'s mruder. See link to older article below.

"Rizzuto clan attacked — even in death"

https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2011/01/06/rizzuto_clan_attacked_even_in_death.html
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/27/17 06:05 PM

Originally Posted By: Hollander
It's such an important place for the Italian community as a whole, the attack could have big consequences.


The funeral home has continued to operate, without any interruption, since the attack in January 2011.

I'm not the only poster who knows that the Loreto has income that is guaranteed because the Rizzutos' paesani in the Montreal area have no choice when a loved one dies but to hold visitations at the funeral home, i.e., the choice is made for the family of the bereaved; otherwise, the family members would face the consequences of showing a lack of respect. (This lack of economic freedom in particular offends my sensibilities. It disgusts me. If you're not in the mafia that's part of your community but you're pro-mafia, sometimes you have to pretend to be pro-mafia just so you keep up appearances and don't cross the wrong people.)

There are an estimated 18,000 people in the Montreal area whose ancestry can be traced to Cattolica Eraclea. The Loreto may be more important to them than to the significantly wider Italian-Canadian community in the Montreal area.

Italian families with ancestry from other than the Rizzutos' hometown sometimes also choose the Loreto for the deceased's funeral-home visitation. So do non-Italians. Both groups at least have other options.

Prepaid funeral arrangements are risky, especially when you prepay the funeral home (as opposed to prepaying an insurer). What if the quality of service at the funeral home goes downhill? You're stuck unless you want to shell out more money to have the visitation somewhere else when the time comes.

I'm not sure why the Loreto was targeted and what the attack represents. Perhaps the building was attacked because Italians in the Montreal underworld who are opposed to the remnants of the Rizzuto clan also see the building as somewhere the clan's loyalists convene for funerals.

One of Rocco Sollecito's siblings, Stefano, was shown at the Loreto earlier this month. See http://www.complexeloreto.com/en/obituary/stefano-sollecito/.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/27/17 08:36 PM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
Originally Posted By: Hollander
It's such an important place for the Italian community as a whole, the attack could have big consequences.


The funeral home has continued to operate, without any interruption, since the attack in January 2011.

I'm not the only poster who knows that the Loreto has income that is guaranteed because the Rizzutos' paesani in the Montreal area have no choice when a loved one dies but to hold visitations at the funeral home, i.e., the choice is made for the family of the bereaved; otherwise, the family members would face the consequences of showing a lack of respect. (This lack of economic freedom in particular offends my sensibilities. It disgusts me. If you're not in the mafia that's part of your community but you're pro-mafia, sometimes you have to pretend to be pro-mafia just so you keep up appearances and don't cross the wrong people.)

There are an estimated 18,000 people in the Montreal area whose ancestry can be traced to Cattolica Eraclea. The Loreto may be more important to them than to the significantly wider Italian-Canadian community in the Montreal area.

Italian families with ancestry from other than the Rizzutos' hometown sometimes also choose the Loreto for the deceased's funeral-home visitation. So do non-Italians. Both groups at least have other options.

Prepaid funeral arrangements are risky, especially when you prepay the funeral home (as opposed to prepaying an insurer). What if the quality of service at the funeral home goes downhill? You're stuck unless you want to shell out more money to have the visitation somewhere else when the time comes.

I'm not sure why the Loreto was targeted and what the attack represents. Perhaps the building was attacked because Italians in the Montreal underworld who are opposed to the remnants of the Rizzuto clan also see the building as somewhere the clan's loyalists convene for funerals.

One of Rocco Sollecito's siblings, Stefano, was shown at the Loreto earlier this month. See http://www.complexeloreto.com/en/obituary/stefano-sollecito/.


You summarized the Loreto patrons quite well.In the first attempt there was hardly any damage because of the security guard that was in place. This second attempt there was some damages. I agree the Sicilian customers are almost guaranteed but if this continues it will discourage the non Sicilians and non Italians to patronize that establishment.
It is obvious that someone has it in for the Rizzuto's. Normally there would be some peace accord that would take place after a prolonged feud. The bikers did manage to broker a peace accord between the Rock Machine & the Hell's and I find it peculiar that the Italians weren't able to strike one by now. Whoever is behind it all must have some personal vendetta.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/27/17 10:32 PM

Don't forget about the tribute in the basement there too. Didn't it even have De Vito's name on it?
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/27/17 11:44 PM

Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
Don't forget about the tribute in the basement there too. Didn't it even have De Vito's name on it?


Yes. I posted about this last November in another thread--see http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/ubbthr...rue#Post898821.
Posted By: pmac

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/28/17 01:08 AM

Keep it classy montreal mob war. That shits is a clusterfuck. No respect. Remeber people were saying rizzuto was more powerfull then a nyc boss. Shit his whole family and all his friends got whacked now there burning down there famikies bizness.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/28/17 01:22 PM

Originally Posted By: pmac
Keep it classy montreal mob war. That shits is a clusterfuck. No respect. Remeber people were saying rizzuto was more powerfull then a nyc boss. Shit his whole family and all his friends got whacked now there burning down there famikies bizness.


Doesn't mean the people saying that were wrong at the time. Every empire comes to an at one point or another.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/28/17 07:17 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: pmac
Keep it classy montreal mob war. That shits is a clusterfuck. No respect. Remeber people were saying rizzuto was more powerfull then a nyc boss. Shit his whole family and all his friends got whacked now there burning down there famikies bizness.


Doesn't mean the people saying that were wrong at the time. Every empire comes to an at one point or another.


Exactly. Nobody made a move until he was deported. This never happens if Massino doesn't flip and rat on Rizzuto. I mean it was possible, but nobody in Montreal had enough power to overthrow him at "full speed" so to speak.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/28/17 11:11 PM

https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2017...-in-quebec.html

Revelations about a corruption investigation involving former high-ranking members of the Quebec Liberal party
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/28/17 11:19 PM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...e-westmount.php

Attempted arson at a pizzeria Del Nova in Westmount
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/29/17 09:46 AM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...e-westmount.php

Attempted arson at a pizzeria Del Nova in Westmount



I know it's a young man's game now, but it would be interesting to see where the old guards like Domenico Manno stand.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/29/17 01:49 PM

"Flambée d'incendies criminels à Montréal"

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...-a-montreal.php
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/29/17 07:34 PM

Originally Posted By: Hollander
Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...e-westmount.php

Attempted arson at a pizzeria Del Nova in Westmount



I know it's a young man's game now, but it would be interesting to see where the old guards like Domenico Manno stand.


I would venture to say that the old guard would like it to be like it was, one Sicilian family in charge of it all; but the likelihood of that happening is remote.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/30/17 05:13 PM

Originally Posted By: Hollander
Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...e-westmount.php

Attempted arson at a pizzeria Del Nova in Westmount



I know it's a young man's game now, but it would be interesting to see where the old guards like Domenico Manno stand.


With one leg in the grave.
Posted By: pmac

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/01/17 01:15 AM

Its funny i watching bowling for columbine on vice ch. Rite now i wonder how much the gun murder rate went up since 15yrs ago when this was filmed. Between this rizzuto whole last stand and toronto seems like it probaly skyrocketed. Where as in usa atleast around boston murders going way down or i should say shootings. You get caught the fucking cias gun detectors are on ervery light pole shot spoter.
Posted By: pmac

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/01/17 01:15 AM

Im bored tonight.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/03/17 10:52 AM

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/angelo-musitano-shot-and-killed-hamilton-mob-hit-1.4096448

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada...s-hamilton-home


Does the shooting of Hamilton mobster have anything to do with what is happening in Montreal ?
The Musitano's did have close ties to the Rizzuto's.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/03/17 05:38 PM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
Originally Posted By: Ciment


So in the earlier part of this Project Cendrier investigation, law enforcement indicated cocaine headed for Montreal got there via Los Angeles and Houston--see http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/en/news/2016/7...pects-arrested. The Quebecers just arrested all seem to be French-Canadian.

From the article in the thread you started a few weeks ago about the cocaine trafficking ring that saw cocaine from California going to Ontario (http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/ubbthr...0297#Post910297), we learned from the RCMP that traffickers shipping coke from the US to Ontario often use LA and Houston as distribution centres, "along major highways to Canadian land ports in Ontario, including Windsor, Sarnia and Sault Ste. Marie." The individuals arrested in the Waterloo Region in Ontario appeared to be a mix of Greek-Canadians, Serbian- or Croatian-Canadians, and some other ethnicities.

The cocaine trade in Canada is too big to be dominated by any one crime group. Yes, there are big players. But even the big players have not been able to reverse the direction of the flow of cocaine--the US is still a transshipment point for coke that is on its way to Canada. This is why I get so frustrated when control of the Port of Montreal is cited as a reason or even the reason for the mob war in Montreal. A mob war that, incidentally, may be far from over.


Phase 3 of Project Cendrier saw four more French-Canadians arrested today in relation to the investigation.

Link:

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/en/news/2017/p...ficking-charges
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/05/17 02:43 PM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/05/05/un-autre-megaproces-menace

Another threatened megaprocess
Posted By: Stubbs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/05/17 03:27 PM



According to Google Translate, the article says:

Quote:
"Given his state of health, my client claims the right to be acquitted before he dies. He has not the luxury to wait," thundered Danielle Roy, lawyer of Stefano Sollecito. The former interim leader of the mafia, who is fighting cancer, is seeking permission to be tried alone in a separate trial and in an earlier period.

Is that right? Is Stefano really dying of cancer?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/05/17 04:24 PM

Originally Posted By: Stubbs


According to Google Translate, the article says:

Quote:
"Given his state of health, my client claims the right to be acquitted before he dies. He has not the luxury to wait," thundered Danielle Roy, lawyer of Stefano Sollecito. The former interim leader of the mafia, who is fighting cancer, is seeking permission to be tried alone in a separate trial and in an earlier period.

Is that right? Is Stefano really dying of cancer?


I do not know the type or degree of cancer he has but it was serious enough for a judge to agree to let him out of jail so that he can have his treatments.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/05/17 06:14 PM

Yep because Leonardo is still behind bars and he would be there with him if he didn't have cancer.

If Stefano dies I got a feeling Rizzuto won't be far behind. His only hope now is Arcadi/Del Balso and I'm not sure even that would save him at this point.
Posted By: Stubbs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/05/17 11:00 PM

Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
Yep because Leonardo is still behind bars and he would be there with him if he didn't have cancer.

If Stefano dies I got a feeling Rizzuto won't be far behind. His only hope now is Arcadi/Del Balso and I'm not sure even that would save him at this point.


I read a blog post from an author who believed that the Arcadi/Del Balso faction is a rival group, fighting for control of Montreal against the remants of the Rizzuto group. The author said Arcadi had been an acting boss for the family and felt he was entitled to the top seat. That's why Lorenzo Giordano was hit, to send Arcadi a message and to weaken his power base.

I'd be curious to hear what others here on the Boards think.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/05/17 11:52 PM

Originally Posted By: Stubbs
Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
Yep because Leonardo is still behind bars and he would be there with him if he didn't have cancer.

If Stefano dies I got a feeling Rizzuto won't be far behind. His only hope now is Arcadi/Del Balso and I'm not sure even that would save him at this point.


I read a blog post from an author who believed that the Arcadi/Del Balso faction is a rival group, fighting for control of Montreal against the remants of the Rizzuto group. The author said Arcadi had been an acting boss for the family and felt he was entitled to the top seat. That's why Lorenzo Giordano was hit, to send Arcadi a message and to weaken his power base.

I'd be curious to hear what others here on the Boards think.


The one to which I've linked below?

https://panamericancrime.wordpress.com/2016/04/06/the-giordano-murder-and-why-nothing-has-changed/
Posted By: Stubbs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/06/17 04:49 AM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
Originally Posted By: Stubbs
Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
Yep because Leonardo is still behind bars and he would be there with him if he didn't have cancer.

If Stefano dies I got a feeling Rizzuto won't be far behind. His only hope now is Arcadi/Del Balso and I'm not sure even that would save him at this point.


I read a blog post from an author who believed that the Arcadi/Del Balso faction is a rival group, fighting for control of Montreal against the remants of the Rizzuto group. The author said Arcadi had been an acting boss for the family and felt he was entitled to the top seat. That's why Lorenzo Giordano was hit, to send Arcadi a message and to weaken his power base.

I'd be curious to hear what others here on the Boards think.


The one to which I've linked below?

https://panamericancrime.wordpress.com/2016/04/06/the-giordano-murder-and-why-nothing-has-changed/


Yes, that article and that blog in general. I'm skeptical because the author isn't a journalist... but his theory that it's an internal split between multiple different Montreal factions makes a bit more sense than assuming all of the violence is simply from the Dejardins (sp) group linked with the Calabrians from Toronto.

There could be three factions: Rizzutos/Sollecitos vs Dejardins/Calabrians in Toronto vs Acardi/Del Balso. But I'm curious what you think Antimafia and what Ciment thinks.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/06/17 11:54 AM

Arcadi is not going away.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/06/17 10:39 PM

Originally Posted By: Stubbs
Originally Posted By: antimafia
Originally Posted By: Stubbs
Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
Yep because Leonardo is still behind bars and he would be there with him if he didn't have cancer.

If Stefano dies I got a feeling Rizzuto won't be far behind. His only hope now is Arcadi/Del Balso and I'm not sure even that would save him at this point.


I read a blog post from an author who believed that the Arcadi/Del Balso faction is a rival group, fighting for control of Montreal against the remants of the Rizzuto group. The author said Arcadi had been an acting boss for the family and felt he was entitled to the top seat. That's why Lorenzo Giordano was hit, to send Arcadi a message and to weaken his power base.

I'd be curious to hear what others here on the Boards think.


The one to which I've linked below?

https://panamericancrime.wordpress.com/2016/04/06/the-giordano-murder-and-why-nothing-has-changed/


Yes, that article and that blog in general. I'm skeptical because the author isn't a journalist... but his theory that it's an internal split between multiple different Montreal factions makes a bit more sense than assuming all of the violence is simply from the Dejardins (sp) group linked with the Calabrians from Toronto.

There could be three factions: Rizzutos/Sollecitos vs Dejardins/Calabrians in Toronto vs Acardi/Del Balso. But I'm curious what you think Antimafia and what Ciment thinks.


I find the article mentioned above to contain several errors and I wouldn't put too much weight in what was written.
With regards to the three factions mention, others may disagree but I do not believe that Arcadi/Del Balso splitted from the Rizzuto clan. There may have been disagreement between them as to who is in charge but I do not think it went any further than that. The split within the Sicilian clan was among the Rizzuto's and the Arcuri's.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/07/17 01:57 AM

To be confirmed.

https://twitter.com/DomenicFazioli/status/861021471698767877

Sources say 2 armed men broke into Laval home of mobster Francesco Del Balso today. He wasn't there. Del Balso arrested in Projet Colisée https://t.co/p8jUB2kVrQ
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/07/17 12:10 PM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...le-chez-lui.php

Mobster Del Balso arrested after a home robbery at his home.

The guy wasn't wearing his ankle bracelet.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/07/17 12:27 PM

I do not know how these ankle bracelets work but how did he mange to leave his residence without the cops knowing about it ?

Nevertheless, I think that probably saved his life because I don't think those two intruders went there for a social visit.
Posted By: pmac

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/07/17 01:55 PM

The wons in mass are gps. Ya i bet he was gonna get a bullet to the face area. Maybe he seen them on survilence jumped out a back window ran into woods or a neighbors yard.
Posted By: vito_andolini

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/07/17 02:59 PM

I agree, if it was a robbery I understand bringing a mask and a gun, but who shows up to your normal mid-day Saturday afternoon robbery in broad daylight, with an aggressively-trained guard dog? Doesn't the dog take the space in the vehicle of the items they were going to collect from the residence? Fact is: this was no robbery. It may not shed light on clearing up the bigger picture of who's running things on top, but what is clear is someone wanted Del Balso dead. The question for me is where does this leave Arcadi?
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/07/17 03:12 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
I do not know how these ankle bracelets work but how did he mange to leave his residence without the cops knowing about it ?

Nevertheless, I think that probably saved his life because I don't think those two intruders went there for a social visit.


Maybe it had to do with the Loreto fire.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/07/17 06:35 PM

Pretty blunt for a hit to break into somebody's house, risking the neighbours to alert the cops and be arrested. Or give Del Balso the time to arm himself or call the cops or his buddies. This was a risky undertaking for a hit squad if that was the case. As we've seen before, hits are carried out swiftly so the hitter can get away without being caught or recognised..
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/07/17 06:43 PM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Pretty blunt for a hit to break into somebody's house, risking the neighbours to alert the cops and be arrested. Or give Del Balso the time to arm himself or call the cops or his buddies. This was a risky undertaking for a hit squad if that was the case. As we've seen before, hits are carried out swiftly so the hitter can get away without being caught or recognised..


It was pretty blunt to hit Sollecito within seeing distance of the police station too but yet they pulled it off. I wouldn't put anything past them anymore.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/07/17 06:55 PM

Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Pretty blunt for a hit to break into somebody's house, risking the neighbours to alert the cops and be arrested. Or give Del Balso the time to arm himself or call the cops or his buddies. This was a risky undertaking for a hit squad if that was the case. As we've seen before, hits are carried out swiftly so the hitter can get away without being caught or recognised..


It was pretty blunt to hit Sollecito within seeing distance of the police station too but yet they pulled it off. I wouldn't put anything past them anymore.


Like I said, the hitter had the opportunity to strike and get away quickly without being caught. Breaking into somebody's house can be time consuming for a hit.

Anyway, from what I understand from the latest article these guys didn't break into the house, but nevertheless they were arrested so this will be interesting because the police will now be able to find out who was behind this.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/07/17 07:29 PM

The Francesco Del Balso incident resembles closely to the Vincenzo Spagnolo hit. The perpetrator(s) rang the door bell. In Vincenzo incident he answered the door and was killed. In the Del Balso incident a woman answered the door and Del Balso wasn't home. Both Vincenzo and Francesco lived in Vimont Laval. Both incidents have the same signature.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/07/17 07:49 PM

Here's what TVA Nouvelles reported last night, before the public was provided a name of the resident of the house targeted:

http://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2017/05/06/deux-personnes-arretees-et-un-chien-abattu-par-les-policiers

Below is a link to the Service de police de Laval's Facebook post from yesterday. As would be expected, most of the comments are about the pitbull who was killed.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1500103296726473&id=212671012136381


Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/07/17 07:59 PM

The cops are really going to be hated now. Wait until PETA gets on their case.
Posted By: pmac

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/07/17 11:48 PM

Jeeze its snowing up there today.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/08/17 12:58 AM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Pretty blunt for a hit to break into somebody's house, risking the neighbours to alert the cops and be arrested. Or give Del Balso the time to arm himself or call the cops or his buddies. This was a risky undertaking for a hit squad if that was the case. As we've seen before, hits are carried out swiftly so the hitter can get away without being caught or recognised..


It was pretty blunt to hit Sollecito within seeing distance of the police station too but yet they pulled it off. I wouldn't put anything past them anymore.


Like I said, the hitter had the opportunity to strike and get away quickly without being caught. Breaking into somebody's house can be time consuming for a hit.

Anyway, from what I understand from the latest article these guys didn't break into the house, but nevertheless they were arrested so this will be interesting because the police will now be able to find out who was behind this.


If Del Balso answers that door chances are they are off in the woods before anyone gets a chance to get outside if they blew his head off. Plus if it's just one shot nobody would probably even look outside. Like many hits that need more than one thing to happen for it to be quick, this one just didn't present itself. It basically comes to what they consider a "break in". Maybe they wanted to kidnap him? Many many options here.
Posted By: BronaZora

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/08/17 06:36 AM

Whatever the case is, being a mobster in Canada is a bad career choice that's for sure.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/08/17 09:15 PM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/05...menaces-de-mort

More on Del Balso and the Pittbull of course.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/08/17 09:19 PM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...es-suspects.php

The two men arrested Saturday for allegedly stealing at home in the residence of the mafioso Francesco Del Balso faced a string of charges this afternoon at the Palais de Justice in Laval
Posted By: Booster

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/08/17 09:36 PM

I wonder this is linked. Would be nice to know who this Laflamme guy was hired by. He has been in trouble since he is a kid
http://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2017/05/07/un-homme-grievement-blesse-par-balle-a-brossard
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/08/17 09:49 PM

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...ting-his-family

Men charged with breaking into Laval home of Montreal Mafia leader and assaulting his family
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/08/17 10:33 PM

Originally Posted By: Booster
I wonder this is linked. Would be nice to know who this Laflamme guy was hired by. He has been in trouble since he is a kid
http://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2017/05/07/un-homme-grievement-blesse-par-balle-a-brossard


http://www.brossardeclair.ca/faits-divers/2017/5/8/fusillade-a-brossard--l-homme-est-decede.html

This source states that the individual shot in Brossard may be linked to organized crime. We will have to wait until they release more info.

I agree it would be nice to know who hired him.
Posted By: Stubbs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/08/17 10:35 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...ting-his-family

Men charged with breaking into Laval home of Montreal Mafia leader and assaulting his family


From the article:

Quote:
In another twist to the story, Francesco Del Balso was arrested by the Laval police Saturday afternoon as a result of the break-in for an alleged breach of the conditional release he was granted in February 2016 on the 15-year sentence he received after he pleaded guilty to several charges related to Project Colisée. It is possible that Del Balso will be returned to a penitentiary for the alleged breach of his release.


Lol, that sucks but at least he's alive
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/09/17 10:36 AM

Del Balso was brought back to the penitentiary for violating his conditions. Having distanced himself from the Montreal mafia, he had already told the authorities that he was not afraid of being the target of a settlement of account like his ex-partner Lorenzo Giordano, shot in Laval on 1 March 2016.

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/05/09/les-cagoulards-armes-voulaient-voir-le-mafioso-del-balso
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/09/17 11:56 AM

Wow they even slapped around the wife and kids. That's pretty damn bad there. Those names sound like French-Canadian right? Makes me wonder if Desjardins is making a play again? This was pretty personal and as they found out Del Balso hasn't shunned the mafia, he's well involved. Why else remove that tracker?

Surely we see a response? I'm sure we see Del Balso locked up for whatever the maximum is for getting busted like that. He's out of excuses.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/09/17 02:47 PM

HOME INVASION AT LE MAFIOSO FRANCESCO DEL BALSO
"THAT THEY CAME TO KILL HIM IS A POSSIBILITY"
DANIEL RENAUD
LA PRESSE
The police do not rule out that the purpose of the break and enter in the mafioso Francesco Del Balso on Saturday in Laval was to eliminate it or to remove it.

The two suspects in this case, Marc Laflamme-Berthelot and David Cormier, do not face such accusations. On the other hand, according to our information, it seems that the armed man who broke into Del Balso's house on Saturday was looking for him and would not have chosen this residence in the Vimont neighborhood by chance.

"Whether it is a settlement of accounts and they came to kill him, it is a possibility," a police officer told La Presse yesterday .

One thing is certain: to break into the house of a powerful mafioso , a few years ago, and threaten his family, it caused reaction in the police circles. "If the goal was to kill him, it's unusual. In broad daylight, at home, before witnesses, you never see that, "a source told La Presse .

"The actions of the suspects will be very badly seen in the criminal environment that will not accept the fact that they have attacked his family," added another source. "It's an amateur job," added a third.


Marc Laflamme-Berthelot, 33, and David Cormier, 25, both of Montreal, faced a string of accusations yesterday at the Laval Courthouse, including breaking and entering, kidnapping and death threats. The prosecution objected to their release.

A SUSPECT IN THE LAST PASS
Marc Laflamme-Berthelot has many criminal histories and has served two federal sentences, one for attempted murder of a 14-year-old boy. On two occasions, his parole was suspended or revoked; The second time in the fall of 2016 because in his transition house room the guards discovered a phone in which they found photos related to the Hells Angels. He was granted his last statutory release three months ago.

Francesco Del Balso, who was not at home at the time of the intrusion, is still under sentence of 15 years pronounced in the wake of Operation Coliseum. One of his sons warned him by text message that an armed man was in the house and was looking for him. Del Balso contacted 9-1-1, but when the authorities wanted to contact him, they noticed that he no longer wore his GPS bracelet to follow in his footsteps. He surrendered himself to the police and was returned to the penitentiary for non-compliance.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/09/17 06:09 PM

Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
Wow they even slapped around the wife and kids. That's pretty damn bad there. Those names sound like French-Canadian right? Makes me wonder if Desjardins is making a play again? This was pretty personal and as they found out Del Balso hasn't shunned the mafia, he's well involved. Why else remove that tracker?

Surely we see a response? I'm sure we see Del Balso locked up for whatever the maximum is for getting busted like that. He's out of excuses.


This is the same guy back in 2002.

http://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2002/04/19/un-jeune-homme-de-23-ans-sera-accuse-de-tentative-de-meurtre
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/09/17 07:32 PM

Doesn't seem like a professional mob hit. Seems like anybody could have hired these maniacs. It looks like they were on drugs.

As for Del Balso, you'd have to wonder if he distanced himself from his mob buddies why he found it necessary to remove his bracelet.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/09/17 07:40 PM

They have reached a new low by going after family members.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/09/17 07:58 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
They have reached a new low by going after family members.


It seems like anyone with money can hire an (wannabe) assassin nowadays to kill someone in the Montreal Mafia and create chaos. Doesn't seem like the all-powerful 'ndrangheta from Ontario would be behind this.

What could be the case is that there is an open contract out on Del Balso and these guys decided to collect it..
Posted By: Stubbs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/09/17 08:11 PM

Originally Posted By: Hollander
Del Balso was brought back to the penitentiary for violating his conditions. Having distanced himself from the Montreal mafia, he had already told the authorities that he was not afraid of being the target of a settlement of account like his ex-partner Lorenzo Giordano, shot in Laval on 1 March 2016.

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/05/09/les-cagoulards-armes-voulaient-voir-le-mafioso-del-balso


Maybe he really is part of a breakaway faction from the Rizzutos.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/09/17 08:27 PM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: Ciment
They have reached a new low by going after family members.


It seems like anyone with money can hire an (wannabe) assassin nowadays to kill someone in the Montreal Mafia and create chaos. Doesn't seem like the all-powerful 'ndrangheta from Ontario would be behind this.

What could be the case is that there is an open contract out on Del Balso and these guys decided to collect it..


The open contract concept make sense. There is no other way to justify this.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/09/17 08:38 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: Ciment
They have reached a new low by going after family members.


It seems like anyone with money can hire an (wannabe) assassin nowadays to kill someone in the Montreal Mafia and create chaos. Doesn't seem like the all-powerful 'ndrangheta from Ontario would be behind this.

What could be the case is that there is an open contract out on Del Balso and these guys decided to collect it..


The open contract concept make sense. There is no other way to justify this.


On second thought, was it not Del Balso that rented an helicopter and start to shoot at the D'Amico's house with an AK-47.
If he gets another parole,he may go ballistic again for having gone after his wife and children.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/09/17 09:31 PM

Originally Posted By: Stubbs
Originally Posted By: Hollander
Del Balso was brought back to the penitentiary for violating his conditions. Having distanced himself from the Montreal mafia, he had already told the authorities that he was not afraid of being the target of a settlement of account like his ex-partner Lorenzo Giordano, shot in Laval on 1 March 2016.

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/05/09/les-cagoulards-armes-voulaient-voir-le-mafioso-del-balso


Maybe he really is part of a breakaway faction from the Rizzutos.


I wouldn't come up with this theory--or the belief that Del Balso has left behind his life of crime--by basing it on a bad English translation by Google Translate.

What that part of the French-language article means is that Del Balso has made a claim on more than one occasion that he deserves to serve the rest of his sentence on the outside. So Del Balso has made the argument to the parole board that because he has decided to no longer be involved in organized crime, he isn't worried about being targeted the way Lorenzo Giordano was.

Recall, for example, when Montreal Mafia member Emanuele Ragusa once told the parole board that he planned to be a shopkeeper upon being released from prison.

Parole conditions for members of organized crime often stipulate no association with other members of organized crime (you may not even be able to have contact with members of your own blood family). I'm sure Del Balso has observed such strict conditions to some extent, but he also wanted to be immediately released from prison after Giordano was hit. And has already been noted by Sonny_Black, why would Del Balso remove his ankle bracelet if not to consort with people on the prohibited-contacts list?
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/09/17 11:25 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
They have reached a new low by going after family members.


Those drug guys would do anything.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/10/17 11:41 AM

There is no question in my mind Del Balso is still in the game, otherwise he would have had that thing on. As for who is behind this, there is no telling. Open contract makes sense but who knows. I'd hate to be the gangster tied to these fools (if there are any).
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/10/17 12:51 PM

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...-leaders-family

Halfway house drama caused by man accused of assaulting Mafia leader's family.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/10/17 01:00 PM

Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
There is no question in my mind Del Balso is still in the game, otherwise he would have had that thing on. As for who is behind this, there is no telling. Open contract makes sense but who knows. I'd hate to be the gangster tied to these fools (if there are any).


I somehow got this feeling that someday these two clowns will be found in a car trunk. The people that hired them will want to hide their tracks.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/10/17 11:42 PM

There is no doubt they end up dead or missing for good. The link you posted claims he had pics showing ties to the 81's, that ain't good! They'll definitely shank him in prison to shut him down if he is indeed tied to them...
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/11/17 12:20 PM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/05/10/le-cartel-des-travaux-publics-echappera-a-la-justice

The cartel of public works escapes federal charges.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/11/17 10:42 PM

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...aine-explosives

Alleged West End Gang leader gets 10-year sentence for possession of cocaine, explosives
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/12/17 10:59 AM

Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
There is no question in my mind Del Balso is still in the game, otherwise he would have had that thing on. As for who is behind this, there is no telling.


The last victim was Di Marco in March.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/12/17 01:23 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: Hollander
Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
There is no question in my mind Del Balso is still in the game, otherwise he would have had that thing on. As for who is behind this, there is no telling.


The last victim was Di Marco in March.


https://www.thelocal.it/20170512/italy-d..._medium=twitter



What does this have to do with Di Marco, or Montreal at all?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/12/17 01:28 PM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: Hollander
Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
There is no question in my mind Del Balso is still in the game, otherwise he would have had that thing on. As for who is behind this, there is no telling.


The last victim was Di Marco in March.


https://www.thelocal.it/20170512/italy-d..._medium=twitter



What does this have to do with Di Marco, or Montreal at all?



Actually nothing, it was meant to be posted for the Ndrangheta news.
At least one person is awake this morning....LOL
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/12/17 05:39 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black



What does this have to do with Di Marco, or Montreal at all?



Actually nothing, it was meant to be posted for the Ndrangheta news.
At least one person is awake this morning....LOL


It was afternoon when I posted. I'm an evening person. wink
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/12/17 08:37 PM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...ditionnelle.php

Danny De Gregorio gets parole.

Here is another guy that says his life is not in danger and that he has changed.


Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/12/17 08:51 PM

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...stroyed-by-fire

another article by the Gazzette.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/13/17 01:06 PM

Arcadi was released again--nine days ago.

"Libéré du pénitencier alors que sa tête est mise à prix"

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/05/13/libere-du-penitencier-alors-que-sa-tete-est-mise-a-prix
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/13/17 01:23 PM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
Arcadi was released again--nine days ago.

"Libéré du pénitencier alors que sa tête est mise à prix"

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/05/13/libere-du-penitencier-alors-que-sa-tete-est-mise-a-prix


grin
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/13/17 01:42 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...ditionnelle.php

Danny De Gregorio gets parole.

Here is another guy that says his life is not in danger and that he has changed.


More from Daniel Renaud:

http://plus.lapresse.ca/screens/398695d9-585e-48dd-a742-62ccda157520%7CTJYYKlJZCp13.html

(You'll have to copy and paste the URL.)
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/13/17 11:49 PM

It's difficult to tell who's with who, but one day someone is gonna flip.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/16/17 02:52 PM

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...eks-full-parole

Montreal cop who sold sensitive information to Hells Angel seeks full parole.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/17/17 04:24 PM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...-costa-rica.php

A Lavallois wanted in Canada is shot down in Costa Rica
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/18/17 08:59 PM

http://www.courrierlaval.com/faits-divers/2017/5/18/un-mort-au-moomba.html

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/laval-police-man-dead-moomba-1.4120990

A 33-year-old Laval man died in the early hours of the morning after being found bloody outside the Moomba bar at the Centropolis.

Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/18/17 09:51 PM

...
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/19/17 10:48 AM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...-costa-rica.php

A Lavallois wanted in Canada is shot down in Costa Rica


Montreal has the largest Middle-Eastern community in Canada. Are the Libanese in Montreal involved with the Hells Angels?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/19/17 01:51 PM

Originally Posted By: Hollander
Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...-costa-rica.php

A Lavallois wanted in Canada is shot down in Costa Rica


Montreal has the largest Middle-Eastern community in Canada. Are the Libanese in Montreal involved with the Hells Angels?


I believe they are involved with both the Mafia and HA but more so with the Mafia.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/19/17 02:12 PM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/05/18/un-homme-meurt-dans-une-bagarre-a-laval

Third murder at Moomba bar in 12 years.If you recall in 2005 Thiery Beaubrun (Haitian gang member) and Mike Lapolla (Rizzuto clan) both had a dispute and were killed.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/19/17 03:11 PM

Thanks Ciment, I read the brothers belonged to the entourage of the killed Joseph Ghaleb leader of a group of Arabs and Jews associated with Mom Boucher.

http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/montrealgazette/obituary.aspx?pid=2875065
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/19/17 03:34 PM

Originally Posted By: Hollander
Thanks Ciment, I read the brothers belonged to the entourage of the killed Joseph Ghaleb leader of a group of Arabs and Jews associated with Mom Boucher.

http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/montrealgazette/obituary.aspx?pid=2875065


The Scoppa clan seems to have good relations with the Arab groups.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/19/17 07:54 PM

http://coolopolis.blogspot.ca/2017/05/the-riviera-montreal-mobsters-phony.html

Here is a little bit of Montreal history. Anybody remember this Italian movie theatre.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/20/17 10:38 AM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/05...elland-coupable

Stéfanie McClelland was the fourth border officer to be arrested for participating in drug imports in eight years in Quebec.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/20/17 11:15 AM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: Hollander
Thanks Ciment, I read the brothers belonged to the entourage of the killed Joseph Ghaleb leader of a group of Arabs and Jews associated with Mom Boucher.

http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/montrealgazette/obituary.aspx?pid=2875065


The Scoppa clan seems to have good relations with the Arab groups.


Interesting. There have always been many independent criminals in Quebec, makes the situation more confused.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/20/17 11:33 AM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/05/18/un-homme-meurt-dans-une-bagarre-a-laval

Third murder at Moomba bar in 12 years.If you recall in 2005 Thiery Beaubrun (Haitian gang member) and Mike Lapolla (Rizzuto clan) both had a dispute and were killed.



Is the victim named yet? He was known to police, a stabbing during a brawl bikers maybe?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/20/17 01:49 PM

Originally Posted By: Hollander
Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/05/18/un-homme-meurt-dans-une-bagarre-a-laval

Third murder at Moomba bar in 12 years.If you recall in 2005 Thiery Beaubrun (Haitian gang member) and Mike Lapolla (Rizzuto clan) both had a dispute and were killed.



Is the victim named yet? He was known to police, a stabbing during a brawl bikers maybe?


For some strange reason they haven't released his name. Normally it doesn't take long for the Quebec press to release names.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/20/17 02:06 PM

Originally Posted By: Hollander
Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: Hollander
Thanks Ciment, I read the brothers belonged to the entourage of the killed Joseph Ghaleb leader of a group of Arabs and Jews associated with Mom Boucher.

http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/montrealgazette/obituary.aspx?pid=2875065


The Scoppa clan seems to have good relations with the Arab groups.



Interesting. There have always been many independent criminals in Quebec, makes the situation more confused.


Under Mom Boucher independent criminals were being put out of business because he wanted control of everything but it now seems that they are flourishing once again. Maybe a deal was struck between bikers,the mafia and independents so that they can all benefit.
I guess they are implementing the Tony Soprano theory "there is plenty of garbage for everybody".
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/20/17 10:49 PM

I agree, but didn't the Angels demand high 'taxes' for protection recently?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/21/17 03:29 AM

Originally Posted By: Hollander
I agree, but didn't the Angels demand high 'taxes' for protection recently?


Yes, I believe it was reported that they would have to pay 10%.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/24/17 03:38 PM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...angs-de-rue.php

Five years sentence for one of the individuals in the attempted murder of Marco Pizzi.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/24/17 03:59 PM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...e-meurtrier.php

Police looking for suspect in Moomba bar murder.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/24/17 04:03 PM

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...p-club-in-n-d-g

Shooting at a strip joint in Montreal NDG.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/24/17 06:41 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...e-meurtrier.php

Police looking for suspect in Moomba bar murder.



Funny we talked about the Arabs a few days ago.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/24/17 11:10 PM

"Des mafieux profitent de la chasse aux terroristes"

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/05/24/des-mafieux-profitent-de-la-chasse-aux-terroristes
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/25/17 04:18 AM

Originally Posted By: Hollander
Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...e-meurtrier.php

Police looking for suspect in Moomba bar murder.



Funny we talked about the Arabs a few days ago.


Yeah that is funny !
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/25/17 04:35 AM

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/ndg-shooting-nightclub-man-30s-critical-condition-1.4128895

Man shot outside NDG strip club dies of injuries
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/25/17 05:34 PM

Daniel Renaud's latest about the June 2, 2016 murder of Angelo D'Onofrio in what is believed to be a case of mistaken identity.

"Meurtre au café Sinatra: la police recherche un véhicule et son conducteur"

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...-conducteur.php
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/25/17 07:13 PM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
Daniel Renaud's latest about the June 2, 2016 murder of Angelo D'Onofrio in what is believed to be a case of mistaken identity.

"Meurtre au café Sinatra: la police recherche un véhicule et son conducteur"

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...-conducteur.php


I find it strange that this latest info. was kept away from the public all this time.
So Vanelli's car was there but he was at funeral.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/25/17 07:30 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: antimafia
Daniel Renaud's latest about the June 2, 2016 murder of Angelo D'Onofrio in what is believed to be a case of mistaken identity.

"Meurtre au café Sinatra: la police recherche un véhicule et son conducteur"

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...-conducteur.php


I find it strange that this latest info. was kept away from the public all this time.
So Vanelli's car was there but he was at funeral.


Vanelli knew for certain that his life was in danger--if he didn't already know--after this botched murder attempt. Perhaps law enforcement didn't want to reveal the detail about his car's being parked near the Sinatra because the detail in some way gives clues about him and his routine that could be used by the people behind the murder plot.

The Loreto is a 45-minute walk from the cafe; so I doubt Vanelli walked there. Perhaps he got a ride to the Loreto from someone; and, again, that is a detail law enforcement may be reluctant to divulge.

Just my two cents.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/25/17 07:51 PM

Your possibly right.
On another point, they still have not mentioned on who's side Vanelli is on. I know the article says he pledged allegiance to Rizzuto after Violi's death but back then they were all on the same side whether you liked it or not; but I have not yet read an article that mentions his present allegiance.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/27/17 02:14 AM

"Meurtre à Anjou: la victime liée aux mafias libanaise et italienne"

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...t-italienne.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/27/17 05:50 PM

^^^^

"Police investigating mob ties in Anjou murder"

http://montrealgazette.com/news/police-investigate-suspicious-death-in-anjou/
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/31/17 11:38 AM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
Cocaine had been transported between Canada and Bahamas on more than one occasion. Two suspects so far are French-Canadians.

"Emergency landing in Ohio leads to cocaine discovery, 2 Quebecers arrested"

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...ecers-arrested/


"Les Québécois pris avec 132 kg de cocaïne plaident coupable"

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/05...aident-coupable
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/03/17 11:48 AM

The following article shares more light into who is behind the recent murders.


DANIEL RENAUD
LA PRESSE
The Montreal Police Service (SPVM) is asking for help from the public to find the suspect of the murder of a 28-year-old man committed 10 days ago in the parking lot of the Les Amazones dance bar located on the street Saint-Jacques, in the Notre-Dame-de-Grâce district of Montreal.

The SPVM describes the 36-year-old fugitive as a dangerous individual who could be armed. Silva is the subject of a pan-Canadian warrant, and the police ask citizens who see him not to intervene and contact 911.

Frederick Silva is suspected of having opened fire following an altercation between two groups that occurred around 2:40 am on the night of May 24, near the cabaret. A man, Daniel Armando Somoza Guildea, was hit by at least one shotgun bullet and became the victim of the tenth murder of the year in Montreal.

IN THE PAY OF SOLLECITO
According to our information, Frederick Silva has worked for the clan of the mafia of Stefano Sollecito (Rizzuto), still considered by the police as the leader of the Sicilian faction of the Italian traditional organized crime in the metropolis. He may be involved in other crimes committed in Montreal in recent years.


According to our sources, the victim, Daniel Armando Somoza Guildea, was reported to have been a close associate of Mustapha Danach, a 30-year-old man linked to Lebanese organized crime and the mafia, murdered in his wife's apartment in the Borough of 'Anjou on May 26th.

Mustapha Danach was himself a close associate of Ali Awada, who was also linked to the Mafia and Lebanese organized crime, and was killed in the Montreal-North borough last January.

Danach was reported to have been in a Terrebonne restaurant from where the mafia clan chief Salvatore Scoppa came out when he was wounded by a bullet on one arm on 22 February.

Several individuals who seem to be linked in a restricted circle have therefore been victims of attacks since the beginning of the year in the Montreal area.

The evening of the murder at the cabaret Les Amazones, Silva fled the scene aboard a sport utility vehicle along with three other individuals. It was he who was driving and he would have headed west in the Rue Saint-Jacques.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/03/17 09:42 PM

Interesting but no mention of the Hells Angels.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/04/17 04:42 PM

Further to Ciment's post two posts back.

"Man sought as suspect in murder outside N.D.G. strip bar has violent record"

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...violent-record/
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/07/17 04:38 PM

Breaking news re: the rounding up of suspects in the murder of Angelo D'Onofrio and in the last arson attack on the Loreto funeral home.

"Le SPVM croit avoir résolu un meurtre lié à la mafia"

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...-a-la-mafia.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/07/17 08:04 PM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
Originally Posted By: antimafia
Originally Posted By: Ciment


So in the earlier part of this Project Cendrier investigation, law enforcement indicated cocaine headed for Montreal got there via Los Angeles and Houston--see http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/en/news/2016/7...pects-arrested. The Quebecers just arrested all seem to be French-Canadian.

From the article in the thread you started a few weeks ago about the cocaine trafficking ring that saw cocaine from California going to Ontario (http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/ubbthr...0297#Post910297), we learned from the RCMP that traffickers shipping coke from the US to Ontario often use LA and Houston as distribution centres, "along major highways to Canadian land ports in Ontario, including Windsor, Sarnia and Sault Ste. Marie." The individuals arrested in the Waterloo Region in Ontario appeared to be a mix of Greek-Canadians, Serbian- or Croatian-Canadians, and some other ethnicities.

The cocaine trade in Canada is too big to be dominated by any one crime group. Yes, there are big players. But even the big players have not been able to reverse the direction of the flow of cocaine--the US is still a transshipment point for coke that is on its way to Canada. This is why I get so frustrated when control of the Port of Montreal is cited as a reason or even the reason for the mob war in Montreal. A mob war that, incidentally, may be far from over.


Phase 3 of Project Cendrier saw four more French-Canadians arrested today in relation to the investigation.

Link:

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/en/news/2017/p...ficking-charges


Link to RCMP news release from yesterday:

Project Cendrier: Alleged ring leader arrested
http://www.grc.gc.ca/en/news/2017/project-cendrier-alleged-ring-leader-arrested
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/07/17 09:05 PM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
Breaking news re: the rounding up of suspects in the murder of Angelo D'Onofrio and in the last arson attack on the Loreto funeral home.

"Le SPVM croit avoir résolu un meurtre lié à la mafia"

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...-a-la-mafia.php


Thanks, good job by police looks they are gonna solve this cowardly murder of a civilian.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/08/17 12:07 PM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
Breaking news re: the rounding up of suspects in the murder of Angelo D'Onofrio and in the last arson attack on the Loreto funeral home.

"Le SPVM croit avoir résolu un meurtre lié à la mafia"

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...-a-la-mafia.php


"Sept arrestations en lien avec des crimes violents dans le Grand Montréal"

http://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/1038...l-saint-calixte
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/09/17 11:59 AM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
Originally Posted By: antimafia
Breaking news re: the rounding up of suspects in the murder of Angelo D'Onofrio and in the last arson attack on the Loreto funeral home.

"Le SPVM croit avoir résolu un meurtre lié à la mafia"

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...-a-la-mafia.php


"Sept arrestations en lien avec des crimes violents dans le Grand Montréal"

http://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/1038...l-saint-calixte


"Two alleged street gang members charged with killing innocent victim of Mafia war"

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...m-of-mafia-war/
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/09/17 12:03 PM

"Un ex-criminaliste qui a servi de messager pour la mafia est remis en liberté"

http://radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/1038737/ex-criminaliste-messager-mafia-liberation-gerardo-nicolo
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/09/17 04:17 PM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
Originally Posted By: antimafia
Originally Posted By: antimafia
Breaking news re: the rounding up of suspects in the murder of Angelo D'Onofrio and in the last arson attack on the Loreto funeral home.

"Le SPVM croit avoir résolu un meurtre lié à la mafia"

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...-a-la-mafia.php


"Sept arrestations en lien avec des crimes violents dans le Grand Montréal"

http://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/1038...l-saint-calixte


"Two alleged street gang members charged with killing innocent victim of Mafia war"

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...m-of-mafia-war/


"La mafia avait son commando"

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/06/09/la-mafia-avait-son-commando
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/09/17 11:22 PM

It was one of the Sollecito's who said those blacks are animals no reasoning with them, but now they use them against the Calabrian faction?
Posted By: pmac

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/10/17 03:08 AM

Ive been reading this thread forever you guys should cap it at the 50 page mark. Its the best thread on the board but it gone to big. Break it up. Put a part 2 2017. Edition. The nba is so corrupt with this bullshit final.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/10/17 12:19 PM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
Originally Posted By: antimafia
Originally Posted By: antimafia
Originally Posted By: antimafia
Breaking news re: the rounding up of suspects in the murder of Angelo D'Onofrio and in the last arson attack on the Loreto funeral home.

"Le SPVM croit avoir résolu un meurtre lié à la mafia"

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...-a-la-mafia.php


"Sept arrestations en lien avec des crimes violents dans le Grand Montréal"

http://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/1038...l-saint-calixte


"Two alleged street gang members charged with killing innocent victim of Mafia war"

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...m-of-mafia-war/


"La mafia avait son commando"

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/06/09/la-mafia-avait-son-commando


"Meurtre au café Sinatra: les tueurs ont laissé des pistes"

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...-des-pistes.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/14/17 07:57 PM

"Street gang member linked to Mafia pleads guilty to drug charges in Montreal court"

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...montreal-court/
Posted By: thebigfella

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/15/17 01:23 AM

The renegade faction must be loosing this battle if Rocco boy is still the boss, and it also tells me that accardi fell in line
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/15/17 01:38 AM

I don't think Arcadi is even on the streets yet. He was supposed to be in a halfway house until 2019 and they snatched him off the streets when Giordano was clipped as they did with Del Balso as well.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/15/17 06:08 PM

Some more murders are finally starting to get solved.

"Mafia montréalaise: deux meurtres résolus, cinq accusés plaident coupable"

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/06...aident-coupable
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/15/17 06:36 PM

^^^^
Some more links:

'I have a taste for this': Five men plead guilty in plot to murder Rizzuto rivals

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...rizzuto-rivals/

Meurtres de Gaëtan Gosselin et Vincenzo Scuderi: les accusés plaident coupable

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...nt-coupable.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/15/17 08:42 PM

"Mafia montréalaise: un lieutenant de Vittorio Mirarchi arrêté"

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...rchi-arrete.php
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/15/17 09:21 PM

Are those guys connected to the Bloods?
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/16/17 02:31 AM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
"Mafia montréalaise: un lieutenant de Vittorio Mirarchi arrêté"

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...rchi-arrete.php


Here's another link:

"Two men with alleged ties to Montreal Mafia charged with possession of firearms"

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...on-of-firearms/
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/16/17 04:29 PM

Daniel Renaud's article from today goes into details about the murders of Gosselin and Scuderi.

"Sur les traces d’un groupe de tueurs implacables"

http://plus.lapresse.ca/screens/c20db98f-75ca-4447-ae92-80308ad2d7d9%7C_0.html
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/16/17 09:08 PM

Good stuff anti!
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/16/17 09:14 PM

Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
Good stuff anti!


This mob war writes itself.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/16/17 09:15 PM

True, but many of us don't speak French so we don't know what stories to pluck either. Thanks again
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/16/17 09:47 PM

Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
True, but many of us don't speak French so we don't know what stories to pluck either. Thanks again


I had french at school way back. I use those articles to keep up with it a little bit.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/21/17 02:04 AM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...eroport-pet.php

José McCarthy, who was wanted since police operation Magot- Mastiff that beheaded organized crime in Montreal 14 months ago, was arrested Tuesday night at Pierre Elliot Trudeau.


"Three men plead guilty to drug-related charges in Project Mastiff"

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...roject-mastiff/
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/21/17 11:46 AM

"L’étau se resserre autour d’un important clan de la mafia"

http://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2017/06/21/ex...lan-de-la-mafia
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/21/17 07:48 PM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
Some more murders are finally starting to get solved.

"Mafia montréalaise: deux meurtres résolus, cinq accusés plaident coupable"

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/06...aident-coupable


"Mafia montréalaise: de quatre à douze ans de taule pour complot de meurtre"

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/06...plot-de-meurtre
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/21/17 08:21 PM

"Deux chefs portés contre Maurice Boucher abandonnés"

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...-abandonnes.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/21/17 11:49 PM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
"L’étau se resserre autour d’un important clan de la mafia"

http://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2017/06/21/ex...lan-de-la-mafia


This paragraph from the article was the one that stood out for me:

C’est avec la peur au ventre que l’entourage du jeune vendeur de drogue en exil a décidé de passer un coup de fil à la Sûreté du Québec en affirmant que je jeune homme était prêt à « vendre » Scoppa, qui travaillait alors sous les ordres du parrain intérimaire de la mafia Montréalaise Stefano Sollecito.
____________________

Per the timeline in the article, Salvatore Scoppa either reported to or took orders from Stefano Sollecito as of September or October of last year.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/22/17 12:22 AM

That is very interesting
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/22/17 02:43 AM

"Sentences handed down to five men in Mob-related murders"

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/sentences-handed-down-to-five-men-in-mob-related-murders/
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/29/17 12:10 AM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...une-riviere.php

Antonio Catania found dead.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/29/17 04:39 PM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/06/28/antonino-catania-retrouve-mort

More on Antonio Catania.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/29/17 05:21 PM

Sounds like suicide
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/06/17 09:46 AM

With the Bonanno family, after the Massino era, beginning to reorganize its ranks and to inject new blood it's possible they will work again with Montreal.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/06/17 11:15 AM

Originally Posted By: antimafia


Again Unit 44, so the Bloods are working as hitmen.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/06/17 08:28 PM

Originally Posted By: Hollander
Originally Posted By: antimafia


Again Unit 44, so the Bloods are working as hitmen.


This is nothing new the Mafia and the Hells have been using Haitian gang members for years now. Most of the gangs fall under the two main gangs. The Crips(blue) and the Bloods(red). The number 44 is the bus route of a certain street. That is how they divide their territories.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/16/17 10:50 AM

Raymond Desfossés has been granted statutory release. In recent days, two other old accomplices of Desfossés, Raymond Bouchard and Gérard Hubert also obtained their statutory release.



Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/16/17 02:18 PM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/07/16/un-homme-tue-par-arme-a-feu-a-montreal

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/man-29-shot-dead-outside-st-leonard-reception-hall

Man Killed outside the reception hall Le Madison St.Leonard Montreal.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/16/17 09:13 PM

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/critical-condition-cotes-des-neiges-shooting-1.4207437

32-year-old man in critical condition after early morning shooting in Côte-des-Neiges, Montreal
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/18/17 06:01 PM

Am reposting some article links I posted yesterday, as I see there was some type of issue then that affected the boards.

"Montreal Mafia: Project Clemenza screeches to a halt as cases stayed"

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...as-cases-stayed

"Projet Clemenza: le processus judiciaire abandonné contre des accusés"

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...des-accuses.php
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/19/17 09:35 AM

2 found dead at Brossard park likely shot to death

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/two-dead-brossard-1.4209908
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/19/17 08:07 PM

Uh oh, if Pizzi is fixing to get out then we know for sure someone will throw some shots at him very soon lol
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/19/17 09:33 PM

Originally Posted By: Hollander
2 found dead at Brossard park likely shot to death

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/two-dead-brossard-1.4209908


http://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2017/07/19/pas-la-signature-des-motards-ou-du-crime-organise

They don't think its the work of the bikers nor the Mafia.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/19/17 09:41 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: Hollander
2 found dead at Brossard park likely shot to death

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/two-dead-brossard-1.4209908


http://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2017/07/19/pas-la-signature-des-motards-ou-du-crime-organise

They don't think its the work of the bikers nor the Mafia.


The victims are young, so maybe street gangs?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/19/17 09:47 PM

That was my first thought also.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/20/17 10:57 PM

"From luxury cars to highway busts: Veil lifted on Project Clemenza publication ban"

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...ublication-ban/
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/20/17 11:33 PM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
"From luxury cars to highway busts: Veil lifted on Project Clemenza publication ban"

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...ublication-ban/


Good article it shares more light into Mirarchi organization,he was no small time drug smuggler. Also shows the Mexican connection.This may also explain his frequent visits to Ontario.

“To give some context, the organization imported or attempted to import, during an 11-month period, 1.4 tons of cocaine.”
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/22/17 12:43 AM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2017/01/25/dettes-impayees-et-perquisitions-liees-a-un-double-meurtre

Unpaid debts and searches related to double murder?
News | Published on January 25, 2017 at 11:30 - Update January 25, 2017 at 11:30

The two arson attacks, which targeted two businesses owned by the woman Carmelo Cannistraro, Caterina Miceli, would serve to send messages to the mafioso and his relatives.

The Streakz Coiffure, the Vimont district of Laval, and the branch of the same name, situated Robert-Bourassa Boulevard, also in Laval, have been the target of flames in recent weeks.

According to our information, sports betting, controlled by Carmelo Cannistraro during Operation Colosseum, is at the heart of the actions of the incendiaries.

It seems that it is not to get control of the sports betting book that both hairdressing salons have been set on fire.


Stefano Sollecito, the Mafia's interim sponsor, who is responsible for the sports betting book , is very ill and would not pay his debts.

It would therefore be for the payment of debts that we attacked the businesses of Caterina Miceli, the wife of Carmelo Cannistraro.

Searches related to double murder?
The residence of mobster Salvatore Scoppa was invested by the Sûreté du Québec (SQ) in the upscale area of &#8203;&#8203;Val-des-Brises, Laval, on 17 January.

The purpose of the search by the SQ crime investigators at Scoppa's home was to gather evidence in an ongoing investigation.

According to information obtained by TVA Nouvelles, these searches are linked to a case of a double murder.

A residence in Blainville, in the Laurentians, was searched, on December 22, in a case of disappearance, considered however a double murder.
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On September 25 and 26, 2013, Daniel Pierre, in his mid-forties, and Mohamed Qazi Ali, 30, two men linked to organized crime disappeared under nebulous circumstances.

"The investigation initiated by the SPVM seeks to demonstrate that there would be a link between the two disappearances and could be found in the Laurentians," said SQ in a press release.

Listen to Félix Séguin's column in the video above to find out more about Carmelo Cannistraro and Salvatore Scoppa.


"Le fisc s’attaque à la femme d’un mafieux"

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/07/21/le-fisc-sattaque-a-la-femme-dun-mafieux
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/22/17 01:09 AM

If Raynald is one of the most powerful figures in Montreal’s underworld, he's probably backed by the Cotroni-Violi's.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/22/17 09:11 PM

Originally Posted By: Hollander
If Raynald is one of the most powerful figures in Montreal’s underworld, he's probably backed by the Cotroni-Violi's.


Ever since he married Joe Di Maulo's sister and got hooked up with Vito he became one of the most powerful figures in Montreal without question. Definitely the highest figure among those that were not Sicilian/Italian. People really don't give him enough credit in what he built up there.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/23/17 10:34 PM

Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
Originally Posted By: Hollander
If Raynald is one of the most powerful figures in Montreal’s underworld, he's probably backed by the Cotroni-Violi's.


Ever since he married Joe Di Maulo's sister and got hooked up with Vito he became one of the most powerful figures in Montreal without question. Definitely the highest figure among those that were not Sicilian/Italian. People really don't give him enough credit in what he built up there.


Made (like Joe Bravo claimed) or not he was/is the top guy in the construction industry.

Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/23/17 10:42 PM

No doubt and there is no telling what he made all those years up there too. Since the corruption cases he might not make as much, but him and Mirarchi will be tough to top unless the Sicilians get their shit in gear.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/25/17 09:02 AM

Another Renaud article.

Back to basics for Hells Angels

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...78_section_POS3
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/27/17 08:50 PM

The Sûreté du Québec (SQ) announced on Thursday it took the reins of the investigation into the double murder committed last week in Brossard, since the crime would be linked to organized crime. According to sources, 21-year-old Mohamed Odeh and 23-year-old Kevin Paul were shot in the head after being forced to kneel.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/28/17 04:42 PM

"Salvatore Cazzetta libéré d'un chef de gangstérisme"

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...angsterisme.php
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/28/17 07:34 PM

Wow, looks like Cazzetta will be back at home soon.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/28/17 08:41 PM

Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
Wow, looks like Cazzetta will be back at home soon.


I'm sure the 81 will give a hell of a party.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/29/17 01:17 AM

Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
Wow, looks like Cazzetta will be back at home soon.


The article to which I've linked below clarifies some issues.

Hells Angel Salvatore Cazzetta won't face a gangsterism charge

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...sterism-charge/
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/29/17 11:30 AM

Former construction magnate Tony Accurso is in trouble with the law again, according to a report.

The Journal de Montréal reports Accurso, who was a star witness at the Charbonneau Commission into collusion in the construction industry, was arrested on suspicion of driving under the influence in May.

The arrest came while Accurso was already awaiting trial for a previous DUI charge.

Around 11:40 p.m. on May 15, the paper reports Accurso was stopped by police near his home in Deux-Montagnes.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/29/17 02:19 PM

Daniel Renaud writes that the Nesparolis are associates of Sergio Piccirilli.

Crime organisé: la famille Nesparoli règle ses comptes avec la justice

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...-la-justice.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/29/17 02:59 PM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
Daniel Renaud writes that the Nesparolis are associates of Sergio Piccirilli.

Crime organisé: la famille Nesparoli règle ses comptes avec la justice

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...-la-justice.php


Back in 2013, I saw on the Rizzuto-clan-owned funeral home's website that one of the decedents whose visitation was held there in January 2013 was an individual named Gabriele Piccirilli. I was unable to determine whether he was in any way related to Sergio. I also noted that one of the people who left online condolences was a lawyer in Niagara Falls, Ontario. When I googled this lawyer's surname to see whether there was any connection with the Piccirillis, I came up short--again, I didn't find anything.

Below is a link to the Evernote item I clipped back in 2013.

https://www.evernote.com/shard/s229/sh/3...051e2fff95cc540
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/29/17 08:32 PM

^^^^
I tweeted about this today. A Twitter follower sent me a DM stating that Gabriele was Sergio's father. The follower was fairly confident. Just wish I had more definitive corroborating information.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/01/17 11:23 AM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...-identifiee.php

Another killing that may be linked to organized crime.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/02/17 10:43 AM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...-identifiee.php

Another killing that may be linked to organized crime.


Weed used to be something of idealists, hippies and other lovers of the plant, but the business has become rough. At least legalisation is underway in Quebec. These murders happened after the SQ arrested 19 in connection with a cannabis production operation in June.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/04/17 09:29 PM

Found this browsing the web about the FX Series of this coming out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUQc5q37z2c

I wasn't impressed with the cast when they announced it, but it might be better than I thought.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/05/17 12:31 AM

Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
Found this browsing the web about the FX Series of this coming out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUQc5q37z2c

I wasn't impressed with the cast when they announced it, but it might be better than I thought.


I had the same thought as you. Can't wait to watch it now.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/10/17 05:25 AM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
Wow, looks like Cazzetta will be back at home soon.


The article to which I've linked below clarifies some issues.

Hells Angel Salvatore Cazzetta won't face a gangsterism charge

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...sterism-charge/


An update:

Salvatore Cazzetta demande sa libération provisoire

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...-provisoire.php
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/11/17 12:31 AM

Ciment I send you a PM.
Posted By: Dwalin2011

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/11/17 12:43 AM

It's already for some time that they don't whack an important mafioso in Montreal (or even a soldier). Has the last stronghold of "mafia civilization" become "boring" like the rest? smile Not so long ago they were still at it like in the 50s at least, if not like in the 30s. Even in Sicily they keep more quiet today than they were in Montreal during Vito Rizzuto's absence, the Montagna-Desjardins-Di Maulo alliance cleaning the place from Rizzuto loyalists and later, when Vito came back, "the reverse cleaning" from the ones responsible for killing the Rizzuto group members. Even after Vito died, they were still continuing. But lately, nothing relevant, have they gotten bored? Or has somebody won the war finally so there is nobody to kill?

I still say they should have given Desjardins the maximum penalty, this was the only hope (even a slight one) that somebody who really knows much would give up information about who the "big players" are today. After Vito Rizzuto died, with Montagna and Di Maulo whacked and Desjardins in prison, we can't even make realistic allegations about who has been killing whom on whose orders and who is on top now, who has lost etc.....
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/11/17 01:44 AM

Maybe they finally put a consortium together or they are running short on hitters.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/11/17 01:53 AM

It's vacation season, they will go back at it again soon !!
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/11/17 03:28 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
It's vacation season, they will go back at it again soon !!


Yeah it is. If there are no major hits in the autumn then maybe there is a status quo, peace or someone prevailed. It's intriguing how things calmed down when the Scoppa group was busted. I still think some guys are marked.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/11/17 05:18 PM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
Originally Posted By: antimafia
Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
Wow, looks like Cazzetta will be back at home soon.


The article to which I've linked below clarifies some issues.

Hells Angel Salvatore Cazzetta won't face a gangsterism charge

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...sterism-charge/




An update:

Salvatore Cazzetta demande sa libération provisoire

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...-provisoire.php


Another update: Cazzetta was released this morning.

Salvatore Cazzetta libéré provisoirement

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...visoirement.php
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/11/17 05:47 PM

Originally Posted By: Dwalin2011
It's already for some time that they don't whack an important mafioso in Montreal (or even a soldier). Has the last stronghold of "mafia civilization" become "boring" like the rest? smile Not so long ago they were still at it like in the 50s at least, if not like in the 30s. Even in Sicily they keep more quiet today than they were in Montreal during Vito Rizzuto's absence, the Montagna-Desjardins-Di Maulo alliance cleaning the place from Rizzuto loyalists and later, when Vito came back, "the reverse cleaning" from the ones responsible for killing the Rizzuto group members. Even after Vito died, they were still continuing. But lately, nothing relevant, have they gotten bored? Or has somebody won the war finally so there is nobody to kill?

I still say they should have given Desjardins the maximum penalty, this was the only hope (even a slight one) that somebody who really knows much would give up information about who the "big players" are today. After Vito Rizzuto died, with Montagna and Di Maulo whacked and Desjardins in prison, we can't even make realistic allegations about who has been killing whom on whose orders and who is on top now, who has lost etc.....


For one, no way were they giving Desjardins the maximum because they reached a plea deal. You don't plea out to maximum penalties. For two, there was not and will not be a chance that he flips either. He's just as hardcore as any Sicilian gangster can be.

As for the killings, we have to realize that Arcadi, Del Balso, Rizzuto and others are in jail. Even Sollecito is battling jail and cancer so it's not like any of the top gangsters in Montreal are currently walking the streets.

And let's not forget Angelo Musitano was just hit when? Last month? That was pretty significant.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/11/17 07:37 PM

Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
And let's not forget Angelo Musitano was just hit when? Last month? That was pretty significant.


May have absolutely nothing to do with Montreal.

As for Montreal, most of the so called round-table members are on the streets.
Posted By: Dwalin2011

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/11/17 09:39 PM

Originally Posted By: dixiemafia

For one, no way were they giving Desjardins the maximum because they reached a plea deal. You don't plea out to maximum penalties.

Exactly, that's why I think they shouldn't have made a plea deal, so they could have given the maximum.

Originally Posted By: dixiemafia

For two, there was not and will not be a chance that he flips either. He's just as hardcore as any Sicilian gangster can be.


Most likely you are right, but one can never know....Angelo Lonardo in Cleveland was grown in the mafia, his father was a mafia boss, he killed his first target at 18 years, was sentenced to life and later got off, became acting boss, was already old, who would think he would flip? Or Massino in New York, nobody expected him to, although Lonardo's example is more significant imo, he grew old in the mafia, usually at that age one doesn't "change directions" that suddenly. Desjardins isn't young either, and has served jail terms before, maybe, just MAYBE, he wouldn't have wanted to do another 25 and would have gotten tired after another 10 or 15.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/11/17 11:09 PM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: Ciment
It's vacation season, they will go back at it again soon !!


Yeah it is. If there are no major hits in the autumn then maybe there is a status quo, peace or someone prevailed. It's intriguing how things calmed down when the Scoppa group was busted. I still think some guys are marked.


I agree with you on this one.
Posted By: ralphie_cifaretto

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/11/17 11:14 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: Ciment
It's vacation season, they will go back at it again soon !!


Yeah it is. If there are no major hits in the autumn then maybe there is a status quo, peace or someone prevailed. It's intriguing how things calmed down when the Scoppa group was busted. I still think some guys are marked.


I agree with you on this one.


So true
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/12/17 06:52 PM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
And let's not forget Angelo Musitano was just hit when? Last month? That was pretty significant.


May have absolutely nothing to do with Montreal.

As for Montreal, most of the so called round-table members are on the streets.


Oh I agree, but you have to also think it could have something to do with Montreal as well.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/12/17 10:03 PM

Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
And let's not forget Angelo Musitano was just hit when? Last month? That was pretty significant.


May have absolutely nothing to do with Montreal.

As for Montreal, most of the so called round-table members are on the streets.


Oh I agree, but you have to also think it could have something to do with Montreal as well.


It's all connected Cattolica Eraclea, Montreal, Ontario, New York.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/13/17 11:41 AM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: Ciment
It's vacation season, they will go back at it again soon !!


Yeah it is. If there are no major hits in the autumn then maybe there is a status quo, peace or someone prevailed. It's intriguing how things calmed down when the Scoppa group was busted. I still think some guys are marked.


I agree with you on this one.


But disagreed on everything else. tongue
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/13/17 12:44 PM

But disagreed on everything else. tongue

Looks like I agree once again. shhh
Posted By: Marcow

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/13/17 03:08 PM

@Hollander

Do you mean the 5 Families from New York City have to do with the things in Montreal and Ontario?

And if yes, what is the Contact to New York?
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/14/17 09:31 AM

Originally Posted By: Marcow
@Hollander

Do you mean the 5 Families from New York City have to do with the things in Montreal and Ontario?

And if yes, what is the Contact to New York?


I was talking about Bonannos, Rizzutos and Caruana-Cun treras. Ik know things with NY changed after the Sciascia murder, but after Massino became a turncoat NY warned Rizzuto so they were still on speaking terms. The two families go way back I don't see them completely server ties.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/14/17 10:04 PM

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...n-project-magot


Alleged Montreal Mafia leaders request trial separate from others accused in Project Magot.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/14/17 10:09 PM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/08/13/un-commerce-vise-par-un-cocktail-molotov-au-mont-royal

A Molotov cocktail was launched on to a luxury car rental company, located on Côte-de-Liesse Road in the Mount-Royal borough on Saturday night.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/15/17 12:52 AM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/08/13/un-commerce-vise-par-un-cocktail-molotov-au-mont-royal

A Molotov cocktail was launched on to a luxury car rental company, located on Côte-de-Liesse Road in the Mount-Royal borough on Saturday night.


I'm fairly certain the owners of Location Prime Leasing--David and Michel Bitton--are the founders of Buffalo Jeans.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/15/17 01:57 AM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/08/13/un-commerce-vise-par-un-cocktail-molotov-au-mont-royal

A Molotov cocktail was launched on to a luxury car rental company, located on Côte-de-Liesse Road in the Mount-Royal borough on Saturday night.


I'm fairly certain the owners of Location Prime Leasing--David and Michel Bitton--are the founders of Buffalo Jeans.


On the surface they seem legit. Interesting that they would be a target.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/17/17 04:25 AM

Wondering whether incident described in linked article below is like or related to the murder last month that might have occurred at a wedding reception in St-Leo.

Both murders may have nothing to do with the mob war. The victim of the murder in July has yet to be identified, and police seem to have no suspects in that case.

"Police investigate shooting during soccer match in St. Leonard park"

http://globalnews.ca/news/3676268/police...t-leonard-park/
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/17/17 11:03 AM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...es-dun-parc.php

A Mafia executioner murdered near a park
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/17/17 11:11 AM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
Wondering whether incident described in linked article below is like or related to the murder last month that might have occurred at a wedding reception in St-Leo.

Both murders may have nothing to do with the mob war. The victim of the murder in July has yet to be identified, and police seem to have no suspects in that case.

"Police investigate shooting during soccer match in St. Leonard park"


http://globalnews.ca/news/3676268/police...t-leonard-park/


I believe the reception hall shooting may have been street gang related.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/17/17 11:56 AM

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...s-in-st-leonard

More on the shooting in St. Leonard.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/17/17 12:52 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
I believe the reception hall shooting may have been street gang related.


Thanks for that. Is this a possible reason for the victim's not yet being identified by the SPVM?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/17/17 03:36 PM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
Originally Posted By: Ciment
I believe the reception hall shooting may have been street gang related.


Thanks for that. Is this a possible reason for the victim's not yet being identified by the SPVM?


Unlike Toronto it is very unusual for MTL press not to release names, there must be a good reason.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/17/17 07:51 PM

De Blasio had influential members of the mafia and street gangs among his relationships, according to our sources. It would have served as a link between street gangs and mafia clan leaders for the execution of several murders committed in recent years and whose victims did not always belong to the same groups.

He probably knew too much.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/18/17 02:52 AM

More news about yesterday's murder of Antonio De Blasio.

"Un mafioso abattu sous les yeux de son enfant"

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/08/17/un-mafioso-abattu-sous-les-yeux-de-son-enfant
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/18/17 05:48 PM

"Timeline: How Francesco Del Balso ended up back behind bars"

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...ck-behind-bars/

"Montreal Mafia leader has first release hearing since home invasion"

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...-home-invasion/
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/18/17 09:09 PM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
"Timeline: How Francesco Del Balso ended up back behind bars"

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...ck-behind-bars/

"Montreal Mafia leader has first release hearing since home invasion"

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...-home-invasion/


Paul Cherry has updated the second article above. On Twitter, where his handle is @PCherryReporter, he tweeted the following not too long ago:

https://twitter.com/PCherryReporter/status/898643754369785856

Montreal Mafia leader Chit Del Balso sees release revoked. Tells parole board he knows someone wants to kill him.

4:32 PM - 18 Aug 2017
Posted By: Dwalin2011

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/18/17 10:26 PM

So the "holidays" have ended, like some posters above predicted. They are at it again. Maybe there is still "hope" for "civilization" in Montreal smile
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/19/17 01:32 PM



"La police recherche deux incendiaires"

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...ncendiaires.php
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/19/17 08:49 PM

Canada: lo scontro tra calabresi e siciliani per la supremazia a Montreal

http://www.telemia.it/2017/08/canada-lo-scontro-calabresi-siciliani-la-supremazia-montreal/
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/19/17 09:24 PM

Thanks Anti! That link about Del Balso showed me the first date I believe I've ever seen on Frank Arcadi being let back out. After Giordano was killed Del Balso and Arcadi went back behind bars and nothing else we heard until now unless I've missed a French article?

So Arcadi has been on the streets for 3 months now. Interesting.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/20/17 01:58 AM

Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
Thanks Anti! That link about Del Balso showed me the first date I believe I've ever seen on Frank Arcadi being let back out. After Giordano was killed Del Balso and Arcadi went back behind bars and nothing else we heard until now unless I've missed a French article?

So Arcadi has been on the streets for 3 months now. Interesting.


We knew that Arcadi was released on May 4.Below is my post from May 13.

Originally Posted By: antimafia
Arcadi was released again--nine days ago.

"Libéré du pénitencier alors que sa tête est mise à prix"

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/05/13/libere-du-penitencier-alors-que-sa-tete-est-mise-a-prix


What I find interesting about Del Balso is that in previous opportunities when he appeared before the parole board to argue for his release, he indicated his life would not be in danger. But yesterday he told the parole board that he knows someone wants to kill him. Did he mean he knows who wants to kill him? Or did he mean he became aware someone wants to kill him because of the home invasion that happened two days after Arcadi was released?
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/20/17 12:17 PM

Hells Angels show up at the 2017 Thunder Bike Show.

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/201708/20/01-5125968-des-hells-angels-saffichent-au-bike-show.php
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/20/17 06:13 PM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
Thanks Anti! That link about Del Balso showed me the first date I believe I've ever seen on Frank Arcadi being let back out. After Giordano was killed Del Balso and Arcadi went back behind bars and nothing else we heard until now unless I've missed a French article?

So Arcadi has been on the streets for 3 months now. Interesting.


We knew that Arcadi was released on May 4.Below is my post from May 13.

Originally Posted By: antimafia
Arcadi was released again--nine days ago.

"Libéré du pénitencier alors que sa tête est mise à prix"

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/05/13/libere-du-penitencier-alors-que-sa-tete-est-mise-a-prix


What I find interesting about Del Balso is that in previous opportunities when he appeared before the parole board to argue for his release, he indicated his life would not be in danger. But yesterday he told the parole board that he knows someone wants to kill him. Did he mean he knows who wants to kill him? Or did he mean he became aware someone wants to kill him because of the home invasion that happened two days after Arcadi was released?


Well shit, I must have missed it. Generally I don't read the French articles because it's so hard to translate and then you're not sure if it's still right or not but I should have noticed your heading as I generally click on this thread no matter who posts. Thanks for pointing that out. It's interesting we haven't heard more from him, I'd imagine since he was sent back and got back out that he has no kind of restrictions?

I'm wondering the same on Del Balso. Surely he would be out for blood after his family got slapped around like that, why would he even say he knew of a threat unless they asked him does he think his family is in danger if he's released and he said yes?
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/21/17 01:59 AM

Maybe the latest murder and the release of Arcadi are connected. Frank started as a Cotroni guy did he turn his back on the Sicilians?
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/21/17 03:19 PM

Originally Posted By: Hollander
Maybe the latest murder and the release of Arcadi are connected. Frank started as a Cotroni guy did he turn his back on the Sicilians?


Given how little is known about Antonio De Blasio, how do you know if he was on a side? if he was neutral? You posted this translation a couple of days ago:

Originally Posted By: Hollander
De Blasio had influential members of the mafia and street gangs among his relationships, according to our sources. It would have served as a link between street gangs and mafia clan leaders for the execution of several murders committed in recent years and whose victims did not always belong to the same groups.


The home invasion at Francesco Del Balso's residence (May 6) happened two days after Arcadi was released. Is there any significance? And if there is, does this mean Arcadi and Del Balso are on the same side or opposite sides?

Arcadi was the acting leader of the Montreal Mafia after Vito Rizzuto was arrested in January 2004. Arcadi, Rizzuto, Nick Rizzuto Sr., Paolo Renda, and Rocco Sollecito seemed to have divided the tribute they received after Vito was arrested, and an argument could be made that the arrangement was the same before Vito went away. In my opinion, Arcadi might have ranked higher than Sollecito, even though all five were receiving an equal share of the tribute.

Is an out-of-prison Arcadi valuable to an imprisoned Stefano Sollecito and Leonardo Rizzuto because they are all on the same side and because Arcadi can run things? Do Stefano and Leonardo acknowledge Arcadi's previous greater authority and his previous experience running the organization? Or are the first two worried about Arcadi's leadership style and consider him a liability?

Should anyone on any side of this war be worried about having Arcadi as the leader of their faction?
Posted By: Dwalin2011

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/21/17 05:10 PM

Originally Posted By: antimafia

Arcadi was the acting leader of the Montreal Mafia after Vito Rizzuto was arrested in January 2004. Arcadi, Rizzuto, Nick Rizzuto Sr., Paolo Renda, and Rocco Sollecito seemed to have divided the tribute they received after Vito was arrested, and an argument could be made that the arrangement was the same before Vito went away. In my opinion, Arcadi might have ranked higher than Sollecito, even though all five were receiving an equal share of the tribute.

Do you mean Arcadi over-ranked Nick Rizzuto during that period? Strange though, are you sure it was possible? That Nick left Vito be in charge is already weird imo, but maybe he wanted to get a rest due to age....But, with Vito being taken off the streets, would Nick allow somebody who wasn't even a relative, to out-rank him?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/21/17 08:09 PM

Originally Posted By: Dwalin2011
Originally Posted By: antimafia

Arcadi was the acting leader of the Montreal Mafia after Vito Rizzuto was arrested in January 2004. Arcadi, Rizzuto, Nick Rizzuto Sr., Paolo Renda, and Rocco Sollecito seemed to have divided the tribute they received after Vito was arrested, and an argument could be made that the arrangement was the same before Vito went away. In my opinion, Arcadi might have ranked higher than Sollecito, even though all five were receiving an equal share of the tribute.

Do you mean Arcadi over-ranked Nick Rizzuto during that period? Strange though, are you sure it was possible? That Nick left Vito be in charge is already weird imo, but maybe he wanted to get a rest due to age....But, with Vito being taken off the streets, would Nick allow somebody who wasn't even a relative, to out-rank him?


If you are to believe the conventional wisdom of journalists and book authors, they did state that Arcadi was acting boss and that position would put him at a higher level. But we have to put all this in proper perspective. Two of the five Rizzuto family were prominent active members watching over the business. You had Nick SR. regularly showing up at the Consenza bar stuffing his socks full of money. Renda handled the finance part. Arcadi might of had the title but his power may have been more restrictive than that of his predecessor. The Rizzuto family still got 3/5 of all the revenue not including what share of the pie Vito son's received as well.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/21/17 09:08 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: Dwalin2011
Originally Posted By: antimafia

Arcadi was the acting leader of the Montreal Mafia after Vito Rizzuto was arrested in January 2004. Arcadi, Rizzuto, Nick Rizzuto Sr., Paolo Renda, and Rocco Sollecito seemed to have divided the tribute they received after Vito was arrested, and an argument could be made that the arrangement was the same before Vito went away. In my opinion, Arcadi might have ranked higher than Sollecito, even though all five were receiving an equal share of the tribute.

Do you mean Arcadi over-ranked Nick Rizzuto during that period? Strange though, are you sure it was possible? That Nick left Vito be in charge is already weird imo, but maybe he wanted to get a rest due to age....But, with Vito being taken off the streets, would Nick allow somebody who wasn't even a relative, to out-rank him?


If you are to believe the conventional wisdom of journalists and book authors, they did state that Arcadi was acting boss and that position would put him at a higher level. But we have to put all this in proper perspective. Two of the five Rizzuto family were prominent active members watching over the business. You had Nick SR. regularly showing up at the Consenza bar stuffing his socks full of money. Renda handled the finance part. Arcadi might of had the title but his power may have been more restrictive than that of his predecessor. The Rizzuto family still got 3/5 of all the revenue not including what share of the pie Vito son's received as well.


I understand your arguments about Arcadi's rank and that of the other three leaders after Vito was arrested in January 2004. Do I think there was a position of "acting leader"? Yes, but only after Vito Rizzuto's extradition in August 2006 did I take a stab at guessing who the three candidates for this position were: Arcadi, Jos Di Maulo, and Moreno Gallo. I think there was an article published around that time that stated Di Maulo declined the position, which means the reporter didn't think Arcadi was acting leader after Vito's arrest in January 2004. French-language newspaper reporters Félix Séguin and Éric Thibault, who work for the same company, have always maintained in their articles that Arcadi was acting leader after January 2004. Daniel Renaud of La Presse, on the other hand, does not share this opinion, while Paul Cherry (Montreal Gazette) does.

My opinion about Arcadi's ranking higher than Sollecito between Vito's arrest and the Project Colisée roundup (November 2006) is based on Arcadi's being the only one who seemed to step up to the plate. I don't know whether it's true that, over the years, Sollecito, Di Maulo, Gallo, and Nick Rizzuto Sr. didn't want to be at the helm when asked by others. And of course there was that whole back story about Agostino Cun trera's being reluctant to take on that position but accepting the role anyway, despite the fact he seemed highly anxious and prone to depression.

On the other hand, when I re-read earlier today the September 2012 testimony of RCMP Cpl. Vinicio Sebastiano, who testified at the Charbonneau Commission inquiry, I noticed that he viewed Arcadi, Sollecito, Renda, and Nick Rizzuto Sr. as underbosses (Une distinction en sorte qu’eux étaient des têtes dirigeantes, mais plutôt comme on appellerait des « under boss »).
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/21/17 09:36 PM

If you listen to the many taped conversations you will notice that it was Arcadi handling the day to day operation not the others.

How can they all be underbosses ? I personally think Sebastiano meant it in a different concept, maybe each having their separate roles. Some were sayng Renda handled the finance, Nick Sr. was a consiglieri, and Sollecito the underboss and Arcadi acting boss.
But Nick Sr. being old school and judging his past behavior, I think he had Arcadi on a short leash.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/21/17 09:43 PM

Arcadi's crew was pretty big I read more than 25 men.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/21/17 11:02 PM

I just read some Sebastiano testimony and he did not only view Nick SR., Arcadi, Renda and Sollecito as under bosses but he included Giordano and Del Balso. He was later asked in the testimony how are Giordano and Del Balso distinct from the others and it was then that he changed their title from underboss to lieutenants and that they reported to Arcadi. On his power point slide he just lumped everyone as under bosses most likely because they reported to Vito. Sebastiano testimony as to titles was very vague and did not offer to give titles on the other four because he was not asked to do so.
Têtes dirigeantes in French means Heads or Masterminds.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/22/17 12:47 AM

March 2,2016

La fin des parrains.

DANIEL RENAUD
LA PRESSE

English

Arcadi replaced Vito Rizzuto in mafia street operations after the arrest of the godfather in 2004 and his extradition to the United States in 2006. His reign had not been unanimous within the various clans of the mafia.

French
Arcadi avait remplacé Vito Rizzuto dans les opérations de la rue de la mafia après l’arrestation du parrain en 2004 et son extradition vers les États-Unis en 2006. Son règne n’avait pas fait l’unanimité au sein des différents clans de la mafia.
Posted By: Dwalin2011

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/22/17 01:21 AM

Still, Nick "reporting" to somebody, since the day he grabbed the power having Violi whacked.....The fact he didn't live to die a natural death already implies he wasn't one willing to step aside, otherwise there would have been no need to kill him. Even when Vito became boss, I never got it completely, the mafia is a patriarchal organization. If he wanted to retire for real and give the "throne" to Vito, ok that happens, but then why he got back in the life after Vito went away? But at the same time accepted a SECONDARY position, if you say he reported either to his own son or to Arcadi later? I would have honestly expected for Nick to continue to cling to the boss position until he was killed, although he must have gone senile in his last life period, since he didn't take any security measures even when it was clear he had become a target. He still continued to live in a house with big windows for everyone to watch and to shoot at him. No fortified mansion, no underground bunker or some unknown hideout, no armored cars and doubled number of bodyguards, nothing!

Well, I can understand if he thought nobody would dare to touch him who has been untouchable for decades, but then Di Maulo, who wasn't old enough to be senile, later acted in the same way: when Vito returned for revenge, instead of going on the run or doubling the defenses, and trying to kill Vito first, he just went around unprotected, as if resigned to his fate, while he had as good a chance to kill Vito as Vito had to kill him.

Really, the reasoning of some of those guys is a mystery to me.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/22/17 01:35 PM

Originally Posted By: Dwalin2011
Still, Nick "reporting" to somebody, since the day he grabbed the power having Violi whacked.....The fact he didn't live to die a natural death already implies he wasn't one willing to step aside, otherwise there would have been no need to kill him. Even when Vito became boss, I never got it completely, the mafia is a patriarchal organization. If he wanted to retire for real and give the "throne" to Vito, ok that happens, but then why he got back in the life after Vito went away? But at the same time accepted a SECONDARY position, if you say he reported either to his own son or to Arcadi later? I would have honestly expected for Nick to continue to cling to the boss position until he was killed, although he must have gone senile in his last life period, since he didn't take any security measures even when it was clear he had become a target. He still continued to live in a house with big windows for everyone to watch and to shoot at him. No fortified mansion, no underground bunker or some unknown hideout, no armored cars and doubled number of bodyguards, nothing!

Well, I can understand if he thought nobody would dare to touch him who has been untouchable for decades, but then Di Maulo, who wasn't old enough to be senile, later acted in the same way: when Vito returned for revenge, instead of going on the run or doubling the defenses, and trying to kill Vito first, he just went around unprotected, as if resigned to his fate, while he had as good a chance to kill Vito as Vito had to kill him.

Really, the reasoning of some of those guys is a mystery to me.


He did take some security measures when he was advised by an Italian speaking police officer that his life was endanger. He installed security camera's at his home and stopped going to Ed's Cafe and Tony sports bar where he used to play cards and have his coffee by the window. He confined himself to his home. He made the same mistake Rocco Violi did. The fate he gave to Rocco came back to haunt him at the end.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/22/17 08:46 PM

I don't think Arcadi outranked Nick Jr. or Rocco Sollecito. Vito/Sollecito were supposedly best friends, grew up together, family from the same town, the whole 9 yards. Rocco was as close as family can be even IF they were not kin. Yes maybe by the rules of the rank he outranked Sollecito but I don't think Sollecito wanted the top spot either and that's why Arcadi went up instead. One thing we can agree on, this was a weird ass set up no matter what! But it does seem that Vito or Nick gave them all an option to take over when Vito went away, but maybe they all said no out of respect for Nick and when Arcadi said yes he took the role of "acting boss"? Hell who knows! lol

As for Nick Sr. I don't think he was ever "out". He was one of those like Peter Limone from the Patriarca's when he got filthy rich when he got out of prison but still wanted to be a gangster. I think Nick gave Vito advice when asked and I do think Vito gave his Father tribute. Whether it was his cut or not, who knows. But I do think his Father kept his hands dirty the whole time. I do think he slowed down of course before Vito went away, but after that things changed.

Great catch on Del Balso's house invasion being 2 days after Arcadi got out. That is very important, remember they tried to get his family to contact Del Balso and get him there. If they were willing to bust in blind like that, then they were possibly wanting to keep him alive to maybe get Arcadi as well. I don't think that timing means Arcadi went after Del Balso because I've always been under the impression Arcadi/Del Balso/Giordano were all close and had plans when they got out to take over after all that has happened. It's confusing to say the least.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/22/17 09:20 PM

^^^^
dixiemafia:

Vito Rizzuto and Rocco Sollecito did meet when they were young and in school. Sollecito, who was two years younger than Vito, was not from the Rizzutos' hometown--this is an error in the Mafia inc. book, as well as in numerous newspaper articles. I am guessing Sollecito became involved in organized crime in the late '60s or early '70s. Like Arcadi, Sollecito was part of the old Cotroni-Violi group.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/22/17 10:09 PM

Sollecito is from Grumo Appula, a village near Bari, Italy.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/23/17 06:59 PM

The Hells Angels are now the biggest they've ever been in Quebec in terms of numbers. The article to which I've linked below also repeats what we started learning last year or had already been guessing at: the Hells are the number-one organized-crime group in Canada.

La relève des Hells Angels foisonne

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/08/23/la-releve-des-hells-angels-foisonne
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/23/17 08:00 PM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
The Hells Angels are now the biggest they've ever been in Quebec in terms of numbers.


After that war which claimed more than 150 lives, pretty scary.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/23/17 11:01 PM

Thanks Anti, I must have been thinking of Ragusa. I know before Joe Bravo got it he had to try and contact Vito through Sollecito, so he definitely had clout with Vito.
Posted By: Dwalin2011

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/24/17 12:53 AM

Originally Posted By: Ciment

He did take some security measures when he was advised by an Italian speaking police officer that his life was endanger. He installed security camera's at his home and stopped going to Ed's Cafe and Tony sports bar where he used to play cards and have his coffee by the window. He confined himself to his home. He made the same mistake Rocco Violi did. The fate he gave to Rocco came back to haunt him at the end.

I understand....But still, living in a house with windows that big (if I remember well the descriptions) was like "Hey you, here I am, shoot at me!" At least he could get them covered with walls with only small windows left. With what he had there, the shooter probably didn't even need to be a skilled sniper to hit him. And imo, he should have ordered a preventive hit on Montagna at least (and on Desjardins and Di Maulo too, if he knew they were in it too).

By the way, is it known who the triggerman was in that case, who killed Nick Sr?
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/24/17 01:24 AM

No, but a close associate of Sam Calautti was detained and questioned by Montreal police.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/24/17 01:32 AM

Originally Posted By: Dwalin2011
Originally Posted By: Ciment

He did take some security measures when he was advised by an Italian speaking police officer that his life was endanger. He installed security camera's at his home and stopped going to Ed's Cafe and Tony sports bar where he used to play cards and have his coffee by the window. He confined himself to his home. He made the same mistake Rocco Violi did. The fate he gave to Rocco came back to haunt him at the end.

I understand....But still, living in a house with windows that big (if I remember well the descriptions) was like "Hey you, here I am, shoot at me!" At least he could get them covered with walls with only small windows left. With what he had there, the shooter probably didn't even need to be a skilled sniper to hit him. And imo, he should have ordered a preventive hit on Montagna at least (and on Desjardins and Di Maulo too, if he knew they were in it too).

By the way, is it known who the triggerman was in that case, who killed Nick Sr?


I agree with you he could of taken more precautions. Some of these mobsters become complacent over time.
No one was charged for the murder as far as I know. He had many enemies so it would be hard to pin point what clan it was. If you recall some of the clans against the Rizzuto's were many.
Posted By: m2w

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/24/17 04:50 PM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
The Hells Angels are now the biggest they've ever been in Quebec in terms of numbers. The article to which I've linked below also repeats what we started learning last year or had already been guessing at: the Hells are the number-one organized-crime group in Canada.

La relève des Hells Angels foisonne

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/08/23/la-releve-des-hells-angels-foisonne


they are the most widespread and with more members, but italian mafia has sure more politic conncections and it is more involved in legal business as constructions, waste disposal, money laundering
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/24/17 06:13 PM

Originally Posted By: m2w
Originally Posted By: antimafia
The Hells Angels are now the biggest they've ever been in Quebec in terms of numbers. The article to which I've linked below also repeats what we started learning last year or had already been guessing at: the Hells are the number-one organized-crime group in Canada.

La relève des Hells Angels foisonne

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/08/23/la-releve-des-hells-angels-foisonne


they are the most widespread and with more members, but italian mafia has sure more politic conncections and it is more involved in legal business as constructions, waste disposal, money laundering


HA from Quebec have learned from the Italian mafia and are also into legal businesses, construction and money laundering.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/24/17 08:35 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment


Link below is to the obituary notice on the website of the funeral home where Antonio De Blasio's visitation is being held. The funeral home is in St. Leonard, but De Blasio isn't being shown at the Loreto.

https://www.urgelbourgie.com/en/necrology-obituaries/47818-antonio-de-blasio
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/24/17 10:09 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment

HA from Quebec have learned from the Italian mafia and are also into legal businesses, construction and money laundering.


I agree those guys are almost like a paramilitary.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/25/17 02:06 AM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
Originally Posted By: Ciment


Link below is to the obituary notice on the website of the funeral home where Antonio De Blasio's visitation is being held. The funeral home is in St. Leonard, but De Blasio isn't being shown at the Loreto.

https://www.urgelbourgie.com/en/necrology-obituaries/47818-antonio-de-blasio


I wouldn't read too much into it. His spouse is French Canadian. She probably felt more comfortable with that particular funeral home.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/25/17 04:02 AM

^^^^
Before the Loreto was built, one of the funeral homes of choice for the Montrealers who were in the life was this Urgel Bourgie location on Beaubien. Joe Lo Presti's visitation was at this particular location.

But there is a reason I won't read into De Blasio's funeral arrangements, as I was being coy in my previous post. I noticed a few months ago that the Loreto website wasn't showing any visitations after April 24, possibly because of the arson on April 25. If a deceased had previous arrangements with the Loreto and his or her family has had to make other funeral-home arrangements, that is just a disgraceful business practice by the owners of the Loreto. It's downright scandalous.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/25/17 01:30 PM

http://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2017/08/24/le...te-surveillance

Police officers were reportedly intimidated outside the funeral home by relatives of Antonio De Blasio.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/25/17 03:39 PM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
Originally Posted By: antimafia
Originally Posted By: antimafia
Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
Wow, looks like Cazzetta will be back at home soon.


The article to which I've linked below clarifies some issues.

Hells Angel Salvatore Cazzetta won't face a gangsterism charge

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...sterism-charge/




An update:

Salvatore Cazzetta demande sa libération provisoire

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...-provisoire.php


Another update: Cazzetta was released this morning.

Salvatore Cazzetta libéré provisoirement

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...visoirement.php


Salvatore Cazzetta: la poursuite en appel

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...te-en-appel.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/25/17 03:42 PM

Alleged Montreal Mafia leaders Rizzuto and Sollecito will have trial separate from others

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...te-from-others/
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/25/17 05:35 PM

For those speaking about Nick being hit at home like that, no it wasn't anywhere long enough for a true "sniper" hit, as he was probably close enough to fire in with a pistol if he wanted. He simply got to comfortable being at home and it cost him. He probably even thought nobody would even hit him at home.

Anti, a lot of funeral homes do that here with pre-paid services. They'll pop up, take in a bunch of money, and then fold up. Gives the good folks a bad name. Not sure if the Loreto done that or not.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/25/17 08:52 PM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
Alleged Montreal Mafia leaders Rizzuto and Sollecito will have trial separate from others

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...te-from-others/


Rizzuto et Sollecito obtiennent un procès séparé

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...oces-separe.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/26/17 01:42 PM

^^^^
Un mégaprocès réservé à deux présumés leaders de la mafia

http://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2017/08/25/un-megaproces-reserve-a-deux-presumes-leaders-de-la-mafia-1
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/26/17 03:27 PM

The Rizzuto trial in english is good for us.
Posted By: JC

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/26/17 05:57 PM

The Rizzutos were not ordering any hits at the time when the old man got taken out, they were getting their butts handed to them until Desjardins hit Montagna and then he and Mirachi were taken off of the streets. It was only then that the Rizzutos were able to fight back, before that all of their guys were sitting ducks.
Posted By: Dwalin2011

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/26/17 07:12 PM

In your opinion, why didn't Di Maulo at least try to hit Vito when he returned from the USA? He surely knew he would be the priority as a target, since he was the only one of the 3 main "conspirators" still on the streets and free, therefore easy to kill, since Desjardins was already in prison and Montagna dead. If Vito died, maybe Di Maulo would have become boss at the end if some Rizzuto loyalists decided to "change loyalties" impressed by Vito's murder (if it had happened), at least trying is better than nothing. And, if he was so willing to die and had a "philosophical" approach towards "being sentenced to death by the boss", like Sonny Black decades ago in the USA, then why did he participate in the anti-Rizzuto "rebellion" in the first place? Di Maulo's actions before and after Vito's return seem to contradict one another, in the end he started acting out of character imo. In your opinion, what could be the reason? Even if he felt he had little chance, trying would have been better than nothing.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/26/17 09:06 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
Sollecito is from Grumo Appula, a village near Bari, Italy.


And Arcadi from Reggio Calabria province, I read a few days ago that another Francesco Arcadi is a member of the 'locale' of Marina di Gioiosa Ionica. Those guys are also in the GTA.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/26/17 11:29 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2017/08/24/le...te-surveillance

Police officers were reportedly intimidated outside the funeral home by relatives of Antonio De Blasio.



That will only piss them off.
Posted By: JC

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/27/17 01:37 AM

Originally Posted By: Dwalin2011
In your opinion, why didn't Di Maulo at least try to hit Vito when he returned from the USA? He surely knew he would be the priority as a target, since he was the only one of the 3 main "conspirators" still on the streets and free, therefore easy to kill, since Desjardins was already in prison and Montagna dead. If Vito died, maybe Di Maulo would have become boss at the end if some Rizzuto loyalists decided to "change loyalties" impressed by Vito's murder (if it had happened), at least trying is better than nothing. And, if he was so willing to die and had a "philosophical" approach towards "being sentenced to death by the boss", like Sonny Black decades ago in the USA, then why did he participate in the anti-Rizzuto "rebellion" in the first place? Di Maulo's actions before and after Vito's return seem to contradict one another, in the end he started acting out of character imo. In your opinion, what could be the reason? Even if he felt he had little chance, trying would have been better than nothing.


From what I remember Di Maulo was not one of the primary movers against the Rizzutos, he was older and obviously very wealthy and probably didn't want to go to war at that point in this life. I think that it was Montagna, Desjardins, and DeVito who were the main engines behind the war, Di Maulo was at most in an advisory role. Desjardins was his brother in law, so I think that he was in a tough spot. I also remember reading that he let Montagna and the Calabrians take a sports book that belonged to the Rizzutos and that obviously pissed Vito off. Maybe he told Vito "Hey, I was in a tough spot, I had you on the one hand and my brother in law on the other, what was I supposed to do? You are back and my brother in law is in jail, so I am fine with going back to the old status quo." He might have thought that that was enough, it is possible that Rizzuto even said "Ok, let's let bygones be bygones, all is forgiven." He was obviously very clever, maybe he told Di Maulo enough to make him believe that all was forgiven so that he would drop his guard and was easier to hit. It could have also been that he was older, had lived his whole life in Montreal, and did not think that there was anywhere that he could go. Maybe with all of the leaders of the anti-Rizzuto faction either dead or in jail, he thought that he did not have the muscle to make peace and that his only option, as much of a long shot as it was, was to try and re-establish a good relationship with Rizzuto.

A lot of things don't make sense to me, like how Tony Magi is still alive, even though it seems to be common knowledge that he set up Nick Rizzuto's murder. Also, where does Tony Mucci fit in, he was really close to Moreno Gallo and as far as I know the Rizzuto faction had no problem with him. Hopefully some day a cooperator is able to shine some light on where everyone stood and who was with who when the fighting broke out and then when Rizzuto came home.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/27/17 02:06 AM

I agree JC and don't forget Frank Cotroni's sons, they always seemed ambitious.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/27/17 03:31 PM

Good analysis. I think Tony Magi is still alive because contrary to others hasn't dropped his guard and is under 24/7 protection. People have tried to get to him after Vito's return. As for Mucci, he was close to people of the old Cotroni faction but seemed to have chosen to stay neutral during the war. He was even threatened to chose the anti-Rizzuto side. I've also been one of the few who believed Di Maulo wasn't actively participiting in the take-over but I don't think he was neutral either. He may very well have been killed because he didn't do anything to stop Desjardins.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/27/17 03:34 PM

Originally Posted By: Hollander
Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2017/08/24/le...te-surveillance

Police officers were reportedly intimidated outside the funeral home by relatives of Antonio De Blasio.



That will only piss them off.


I agree, for the most part some get mad at the media but to get mad a the police will only empower them to use more intimidation tactics.
Posted By: Dwalin2011

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/27/17 08:39 PM

Originally Posted By: JC

From what I remember Di Maulo was not one of the primary movers against the Rizzutos, he was older and obviously very wealthy and probably didn't want to go to war at that point in this life. I think that it was Montagna, Desjardins, and DeVito who were the main engines behind the war, Di Maulo was at most in an advisory role.


Thanks for the information, I honestly didn't know De Vito was a main player here. But was he even made? I think I read somewhere he was an associate although a big earner, so what would he gain by overthrowing the Rizzuto group? Promotion to soldier (he couldn't become boss or capo just like that without "working" for some time at least as a made member)? Desjardins isn't made because he has no Italian blood, so at the end only Montagna could grab the power and become boss; unless Desjardins controlled him behind the scenes like a "non-formal" power, but he obviously couldn't since he had to kill Montagna to avoid being killed himself. So who he thought should be boss after the Rizzutos got killed, if he himself wasn't arrested for Montagna's murder? Would he have tried to convince Di Maulo to step up as boss, or did he initially think he could control Montagna, but was mistaken almost at cost of his life? I know we can only make speculations, but still....

But that De Vito was a main figure here, not a secondary character, this is completely new to me. In your opinion, did they poison him in prison at Vito RIzzuto's order? But if he was powerful enough to get to prisoners too, why didn't he kill Desjardins as well?

I agree that hopefully somebody will eventually give information...But as I said before, imo they missed a possible (although small) chance by making a deal with Desjardins instead of asking for the maximum penalty. As unbelievable as it sounds, that he would ever tell anything, there have been cases in mafia history when gangsters who nobody could ever think would cooperate, ratted everybody out all of a sudden on a certain point (take Lonardo and Massino for instance). If somebody among the Montreal gangsters really knows much (at least among the ones currently in jail), it's Desjardins, and imo it would have been worthy to at least try to make him crack by giving him life (or is it 25 years maximum in Canada, I don't remember). He isn't that young and has done not-so-short prison stretches before, so who knows what would his position be after other 10 or 15 years in jail with still at least other 10 ahead. Maybe he would at least tell about the gangsters that are already dead. Or is it considered ratting all the same, like testifying against living ones?
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/27/17 09:29 PM

Originally Posted By: Dwalin2011
Desjardins isn't made because he has no Italian blood, so at the end only Montagna could grab the power and become boss


That is still up for debate. wink
Montagna was just crazy he didn't have the support in Quebec needed to become a player like the Desjardins family. Ray's son Mathieu Desjardins is half Italian so in theory they can make him.
Posted By: Dwalin2011

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/27/17 09:47 PM

Originally Posted By: Hollander
Originally Posted By: Dwalin2011
Desjardins isn't made because he has no Italian blood, so at the end only Montagna could grab the power and become boss


That is still up for debate. wink
Montagna was just crazy he didn't have the support in Quebec needed to become a player like the Desjardins family. Ray's son Mathieu Desjardins is half Italian so in theory they can make him.

Maybe, though I imagine there would have been quite a lot of....objection among the mafiosi when a traditionally Italian organization gets "officially" under control of somebody with last name Desjardins smile If I remember well what I read, when they accept half Italians, they are more willing to take ones who are Italians on father's side, I only remember Charles "Chucky" Porter from Pittsburgh as an exception. But it would be really interesting though, a boss of an Italian mob named Mathieu Desjardins! It would be like having somebody with last name Ivanov as president of France or somebody named Wang or Chen in charge in Germany.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/27/17 10:49 PM

Police operation interrupts party for Hells Angels associates

http://montrealgazette.com/news/sq-monit...mbert-de-lauzon
Posted By: mike68

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/28/17 04:55 PM

I just watched the three minute video of the emergency services pounding on De Blasio's chest and you can hear one of his children screaming 'Daddy' over and over and over in the background. Just horrifying. These people are sick.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/29/17 09:01 AM

He is 71 years old but still a person with a high risk of recurrence . For this reason, despite his advanced age, Alfonso Caruana, who was suggested by investigators as head of the Cun trera mafia family and nicknamed "the boss of two worlds", must Remain in custody. The Turin Judicial Tribunal established it with a decision confirmed by the Supreme Court.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/29/17 11:56 AM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...tite-italie.php

A 70-year-old mafioso forced to avoid Little Italy.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/29/17 02:53 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...tite-italie.php

A 70-year-old mafioso forced to avoid Little Italy.


REPUTED MOBSTER BANNED FROM LITTLE ITALY

http://fw.to/IYcEiDX
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/30/17 10:09 AM

http://lactualite.com/actualites/2017/08/30/un-homicide-fait-un-mort-a-montreal-nord/

A homicide occurred in the Montreal-North neighborhood
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/30/17 10:20 AM


http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/08...exy-de-rosemont

Cocktail Molotov at a sexy waitress restaurant on Rosemont boulevard.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/30/17 03:08 PM

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...artment-hallway

Montreal North man dead after being gunned down in apartment hallway
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/30/17 03:12 PM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...-identifiee.php

The man killed Tuesday night in an apartment building in the Montréal-Nord borough is Valéry Belange, La Presse reported .

Belange, 31, was to be sentenced on September 21 for a drug trafficking case from 2015. The victim, who had been living in the Saint-Léonard district until recently, had also been sentenced to a few days in jail this year, for a possession of narcotics.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/30/17 05:39 PM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...ells-angels.php

Larry Amero, an influential member of the Hells Angels of British Columbia, was granted a stay of proceedings this morning
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/31/17 12:16 PM

http://vancouversun.com/news/crime/high-...-charges-stayed

Another article on Amero:

High-profile B.C. Hells Angel released after cocaine charges stayed
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/01/17 04:30 AM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://vancouversun.com/news/crime/high-...-charges-stayed

Another article on Amero:

High-profile B.C. Hells Angel released after cocaine charges stayed


As a free man again, Amero may influence some of the supply of cocaine to Quebec and Ontario, even if he chooses to return to British Columbia now that he's out of jail.

Police in B.C. ready to tackle Hells Angel Larry Amero if he “chooses to heat up a conflict within the organized crime groups”

http://www.voiceonline.com/chooses-conflict-organized/
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/01/17 10:32 AM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://vancouversun.com/news/crime/high-...-charges-stayed

Another article on Amero:

High-profile B.C. Hells Angel released after cocaine charges stayed


As a free man again, Amero may influence some of the supply of cocaine to Quebec and Ontario, even if he chooses to return to British Columbia now that he's out of jail.

Police in B.C. ready to tackle Hells Angel Larry Amero if he “chooses to heat up a conflict within the organized crime groups”

http://www.voiceonline.com/chooses-conflict-organized/


Good article.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/01/17 09:42 PM

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...-hearing-friday

LaSalle suspect in drone drug delivery to jail to have bail hearing Friday
Posted By: Gambler007

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/05/17 11:06 PM

New poster so might be in the wrong place but here is some info about the situation in MTL, Toronto.

http://www.gazzettadelsud.it/news/home/257973/la-guerra-tra-siciliani-e-calabresi-in-canada.html

if you have chrome right click and select translate to english!
Posted By: Gambler007

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/05/17 11:28 PM

http://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/1054258/colis-drogue-drone-prison-accuse-reste-detenu
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/06/17 12:55 AM

Originally Posted By: Gambler007
New poster so might be in the wrong place but here is some info about the situation in MTL, Toronto.

http://www.gazzettadelsud.it/news/home/257973/la-guerra-tra-siciliani-e-calabresi-in-canada.html

if you have chrome right click and select translate to english!


Your in the right place.
Just want to welcome you !
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/06/17 03:01 PM

Originally Posted By: Gambler007
New poster so might be in the wrong place but here is some info about the situation in MTL, Toronto.

http://www.gazzettadelsud.it/news/home/257973/la-guerra-tra-siciliani-e-calabresi-in-canada.html

if you have chrome right click and select translate to english!


It's an article that contains numerous inaccuracies.

I don't think the Italy-based journalist, who is also an author, has enough information about what has been happening in the Greater Toronto Area with regard to the murders, attempted murders, firebombings, arson, and shots being fired into homes. My own opinion keeps changing, but at this point I am leaning toward the Siderno Group ('ndrangheta) and Caruana-Cun trera clan--Calabrians and Sicilians who are in an alliance--being the ones under attack. This alliance isn't something I made up, as one only has to read Business or Blood. At first I dismissed the assessment that the Caruna-Cun trera clan in York Region (north of Toronto) turned its back on the Rizzuto loyalists in Montreal. Now I'm not so sure.

As for Montreal, I don't see any war there as being a Sicilians-versus-Calabrians war--viewing the war this way is not only outdated but was even wrong to begin with when interpreting the 1970s-war-related events in Montreal. The journalist writes that the murdered Antonio De Blasio was definitively Calabrian and was in the Rizzuto camp. (I'm not sure how the journalist knows this, but this is another reason I don't trust his reporting skills.) When posts in this thread were made about the numerous attempts on Marco Pizzi's life, the feeling was that the Rizzuto loyalists were all but wiped out. Then when the Quebec-based crime reporter Daniel Renaud wrote that Pizzi had Calabrian ancestry, we were left scratching our heads.

Gambler007, please don't let me discourage you from posting links to whatever articles you like. While I myself tend not to post links to stories full of errors, I do post many articles that have content I strongly disagree with. Welcome to the board!
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/06/17 03:21 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...tite-italie.php

A 70-year-old mafioso forced to avoid Little Italy.


"Your presence in that area represents a risk situation to meet individuals from organized crime"

http://nationalpost.com/wcm/ca5d17fb-ab8f-4348-92de-c7bb4faf673b
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/06/17 07:20 PM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...tite-italie.php

A 70-year-old mafioso forced to avoid Little Italy.


"Your presence in that area represents a risk situation to meet individuals from organized crime"


http://nationalpost.com/wcm/ca5d17fb-ab8f-4348-92de-c7bb4faf673b


437 charges ! He must of broken the record....LOL
Posted By: Stubbs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/06/17 07:35 PM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
Originally Posted By: Gambler007
New poster so might be in the wrong place but here is some info about the situation in MTL, Toronto.

http://www.gazzettadelsud.it/news/home/257973/la-guerra-tra-siciliani-e-calabresi-in-canada.html

if you have chrome right click and select translate to english!


It's an article that contains numerous inaccuracies.

I don't think the Italy-based journalist, who is also an author, has enough information about what has been happening in the Greater Toronto Area with regard to the murders, attempted murders, firebombings, arson, and shots being fired into homes. My own opinion keeps changing, but at this point I am leaning toward the Siderno Group ('ndrangheta) and Caruana-Cun trera clan--Calabrians and Sicilians who are in an alliance--being the ones under attack. This alliance isn't something I made up, as one only has to read Business or Blood. At first I dismissed the assessment that the Caruna-Cun trera clan in York Region (north of Toronto) turned its back on the Rizzuto loyalists in Montreal. Now I'm not so sure.

As for Montreal, I don't see any war there as being a Sicilians-versus-Calabrians war--viewing the war this way is not only outdated but was even wrong to begin with when interpreting the 1970s-war-related events in Montreal. The journalist writes that the murdered Antonio De Blasio was definitively Calabrian and was in the Rizzuto camp. (I'm not sure how the journalist knows this, but this is another reason I don't trust his reporting skills.) When posts in this thread were made about the numerous attempts on Marco Pizzi's life, the feeling was that the Rizzuto loyalists were all but wiped out. Then when the Quebec-based crime reporter Daniel Renaud wrote that Pizzi had Calabrian ancestry, we were left scratching our heads.

Gambler007, please don't let me discourage you from posting links to whatever articles you like. While I myself tend not to post links to stories full of errors, I do post many articles that have content I strongly disagree with. Welcome to the board!


So you think it's Sidernos + C.untrera-Caruanas in a war aganst Rizzuto loyalists? What caused the C.untreras and Rizzutos to have a falling out? They're all from Agrigento.

Speaking of Agrigento - I wonder what happened to Camella? Her in-laws were from there.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/08/17 08:47 PM

http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/news/14585002/story.html

http://thechronicleherald.ca/novascotia/...5fGEdz8.twitter

Sailboat found loaded with cocaine had come from Caribbean.
The officer said an organized crime group from Montreal or Toronto was likely behind this shipment and that the drugs were destined for one of those cities for distribution.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/13/17 06:57 PM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/09...e-avec-un-drone

Drones sited near prisons.

From 1 April 2017 to 31 August 2017 (5 months)
98 drones were sited
3 drones seized
From 1 April 2016 to 31 March 2017 (12 months)
120 drones sited
4 drones seized

Types of intercepted objects
Tobacco, cannabis, cell phones, chargers, smart watches, XBOX, wires, batteries, saws, screws
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/19/17 11:21 AM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...-mont-royal.php

This car rental facility, located in the northwest of the island of Montreal, has been the target of a third-round arson in just a few weeks.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/19/17 09:25 PM

Customs found 29kg Afghan heroin in the port of Montreal. Four people from the York region were arrested.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/19/17 11:15 PM

Originally Posted By: Hollander
Customs found 29kg Afghan heroin in the port of Montreal. Four people from the York region were arrested.


http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/en/news/2017/r...ined-the-gta?re
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/20/17 09:54 AM

UPAC strike: Frank Zampino and Bernard Trépanier arrested

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...03_section_POS1
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/20/17 10:03 PM

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/laval-corruption-3-men-sentenced-in-project-honorer

Laval corruption: 4 men sentenced in Project Honorer
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/20/17 10:05 PM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...se-mccarthy.php

Magot-Mastiff: 54 months for cocaine trafficker José McCarthy
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/22/17 10:32 PM

Another person sentenced in relation to Project Magot.

Man caught transporting cocaine during Mafia probe gets 30 months

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...month-sentence/
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/25/17 11:33 AM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/09/25/deux-vehicules-incendies-a-laval

Two vehicles burned in Laval.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/28/17 04:34 AM

Street gang member, who in the past has been hired by people with ties to the Montreal Mafia, is being sought by police because he is a suspect in a 2014 murder.

"Montreal police seek 'Gino Mad Dog' in connection with Plateau homicide"
http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...plateau-murder/
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/30/17 08:36 PM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/09/29/les-maitres-de-la-culture-du-pot

The Asian underworld has supplanted the Hells Angels and took the monopoly of domestic marijuana cultivation in the greater Montreal area, where its illegal plantations should continue to proliferate despite the legalization of the pot.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/30/17 08:40 PM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...-un-message.php

The arson fires last night in a hairdressing salon in the Vimont neighborhood of Laval could be linked to another event during which molotov cocktails were thrown on cars a few days ago in the Auteuil area
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/01/17 07:59 PM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/10...ique-a-montreal

Asian mafia and connections to Desjardins and DiMaulo
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/05/17 07:12 PM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...000-a-letat.php

Jean-François Émard, considered at one time as the head of the Rock Machine in Canada, yesterday filed a $ 650,000 lawsuit against the state for the blows he received in a cell of a police station in Québec, in the fall of 2014
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/06/17 07:02 AM

The Rise And Fall of the Last Canadian Godfather

https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/8x87da/the-rise-and-fall-of-the-last-canadian-godfather
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/07/17 02:46 PM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/10/07/amendes-de-18-million-pour-un-financier-proche-des-hells

Fines of $ 1.8 million for a financier close to the Hells
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/10/17 09:32 PM

Trial of Tony Accurso: jury selection begins

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...91_section_POS3

Frank Zampino calls for a stay of proceedings

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...92_section_POS1
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/11/17 02:09 PM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
Originally Posted By: antimafia
Cocaine had been transported between Canada and Bahamas on more than one occasion. Two suspects so far are French-Canadians.

"Emergency landing in Ohio leads to cocaine discovery, 2 Quebecers arrested"

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...ecers-arrested/


"Les Québécois pris avec 132 kg de cocaïne plaident coupable"

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/05...aident-coupable


Saisie de 132 kg de cocaïne en Ohio: huit ans proposés pour le pilote québécois

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...e-quebecois.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/12/17 04:02 PM

"How Canada enabled the rise of Mafia boss Vito Rizzuto"

http://www.macleans.ca/opinion/how-canada-enabled-the-rise-of-mafia-boss-vito-rizzuto/
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/13/17 02:23 AM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
Originally Posted By: antimafia
Originally Posted By: antimafia
Cocaine had been transported between Canada and Bahamas on more than one occasion. Two suspects so far are French-Canadians.

"Emergency landing in Ohio leads to cocaine discovery, 2 Quebecers arrested"

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...ecers-arrested/


"Les Québécois pris avec 132 kg de cocaïne plaident coupable"

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/05...aident-coupable


Saisie de 132 kg de cocaïne en Ohio: huit ans proposés pour le pilote québécois

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...e-quebecois.php


"Mirabel man on plane carrying cocaine in U.S. sentenced to 63 months'

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...d-to-63-months/
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/19/17 11:01 PM

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...begins-thursday

The fix was in at Laval city hall for years, jury told at Accurso trial
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/23/17 05:38 PM

http://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2017/10/23/une-relation-de-la-mafia-tourne-autour-de-la-grande-roue

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/10...oue-de-montreal

A mafia relationship revolves around The Ferris wheel.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/23/17 05:43 PM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/10/23/fausse-joie-pour-un-entrepreneur-acquitte

Montreal entrepreneur Francesco Bruno, who took advantage of his acquittal to file a $ 45 million lawsuit against the Canadian and Quebec Revenue agencies, will eventually face a new tax evasion lawsuit.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/26/17 11:54 AM

http://www.ledevoir.com/societe/actualit...anise-en-images

Retired journalists André Cédillot and André Noël publish an illustrated book on organized crime in Montreal.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/26/17 12:43 PM

"Un mafieux en a ras-le-bol d’être gardé emprisonné"

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/10/25/un-mafieux-en-a-ras-le-bol-detre-garde-emprisonne
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/28/17 01:12 PM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...-identifiee.php

The man stabbed to death Friday night in the Hochelaga-Maisonneuve district is Claude Fleury, 39, learned La Presse . The victim has multiple criminal histories. A narcotics transaction that went wrong could be one of the motives of crime.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/28/17 06:35 PM

Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
[snip]

Anti, a lot of funeral homes do that here with pre-paid services. They'll pop up, take in a bunch of money, and then fold up. Gives the good folks a bad name. Not sure if the Loreto done that or not.


The Loreto funeral home resumes business on Tuesday, October 31, based on the most recent obituary shown on the website. Below is a link to my Evernote item about the renovations that seemed to have been undertaken at some point after the arson on April 25.

https://www.evernote.com/shard/s229/sh/2...be1dcbbd204f560

dixiemafia,

Sorry. I should have commented on your post from back in August.

Per Quebec's business registry, the Loreto funeral home started operating in or around 1995. I am reluctant to believe that the closure for several months was related to some sort of scam to take money from grieving families. A number of organized-crime authors and reporters have often mentioned that the Loreto is the only business owned by the Rizzutos (and their relatives) that is a source of legitimate income.

Nevertheless, I have to wonder whether the Loreto refunded the money it received from those who made prepaid funeral-home arrangements but were forced during the closure to make arrangements at another funeral home. And did the Loreto provide additional compensation to people who made prepaid arrangements but had to scramble to find another funeral home? The whole idea of these prepaid arrangements is for individuals and families to save money by prepaying for a funeral before it ever takes place. Making funeral arrangments in the last few months obviously cost these people more than what they shelled out in prepaid arrangements some time ago.
Posted By: doggystyle

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/28/17 06:39 PM

I havent read the whole threaad just thought i take a shortcut and ask who's behind this Montreal war? I know the Rizzutos is taking a hit but whos on the other side?
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/28/17 06:54 PM

Originally Posted By: doggystyle
I havent read the whole threaad just thought i take a shortcut and ask who's behind this Montreal war? I know the Rizzutos is taking a hit but whos on the other side?


I just noticed that this thread recently went over the 100,000-views mark.

The mob war in Montreal is now over. We now return you to our regularly scheduled programming.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/02/17 03:12 PM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...de-montreal.php

Three individuals arrested for trying to smuggle 20 kg of cocaine into the Port of Montreal.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/03/17 01:18 PM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...cien-motard.php

The man killed by several firearm projectiles at a company in the Rivière-des-Prairies district last night is Vincent Lamer, a former member of the Rowdy Crew and Rockers, deceased clubs-schools of the Hells Angels
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/03/17 01:20 PM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...rte-disparu.php

Jacques Desjardins, 68 years old, brother of the boss Raynald Desjardins, left his residence of Laval to go to an appointment around 8 am Monday morning. He has not returned and has never given any news since, contrary to his habits. Worried, his family contacted Laval police who began an investigation.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/03/17 01:47 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...rte-disparu.php

Jacques Desjardins, 68 years old, brother of the boss Raynald Desjardins, left his residence of Laval to go to an appointment around 8 am Monday morning. He has not returned and has never given any news since, contrary to his habits. Worried, his family contacted Laval police who began an investigation.



Jesus..

Vito and Jacques.

Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/03/17 02:51 PM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/11/03/le-frere-du-caid-raynald-desjardins-porte-disparu

More info. on Raynald Desjardins's brother.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/03/17 02:55 PM

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/laval-police-seek-help-in-finding-missing-68-year-old-man

English article on Raynalds's brother disappearance.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/03/17 03:48 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...rte-disparu.php

Jacques Desjardins, 68 years old, brother of the boss Raynald Desjardins, left his residence of Laval to go to an appointment around 8 am Monday morning. He has not returned and has never given any news since, contrary to his habits. Worried, his family contacted Laval police who began an investigation.



Could be a message to Desjardins now that his guys are returning to the streets

This ain't over.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/03/17 03:58 PM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...rte-disparu.php

Jacques Desjardins, 68 years old, brother of the boss Raynald Desjardins, left his residence of Laval to go to an appointment around 8 am Monday morning. He has not returned and has never given any news since, contrary to his habits. Worried, his family contacted Laval police who began an investigation.



Could be a message to Desjardins now that his guys are returning to the streets

This ain't over.


Yeah, I think it is going to get messy again.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/03/17 07:20 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...rte-disparu.php

Jacques Desjardins, 68 years old, brother of the boss Raynald Desjardins, left his residence of Laval to go to an appointment around 8 am Monday morning. He has not returned and has never given any news since, contrary to his habits. Worried, his family contacted Laval police who began an investigation.



Could be a message to Desjardins now that his guys are returning to the streets

This ain't over.


Yeah, I think it is going to get messy again.


I wonder how much support he still has now everyone is dead. There will be a point people get tired of waging wars and then the biggest antagonizer will be taken out before the rest makes peace.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/03/17 07:49 PM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...rte-disparu.php

Jacques Desjardins, 68 years old, brother of the boss Raynald Desjardins, left his residence of Laval to go to an appointment around 8 am Monday morning. He has not returned and has never given any news since, contrary to his habits. Worried, his family contacted Laval police who began an investigation.



Could be a message to Desjardins now that his guys are returning to the streets

This ain't over.


Yeah, I think it is going to get messy again.


I wonder how much support he still has now everyone is dead. There will be a point people get tired of waging wars and then the biggest antagonizer will be taken out before the rest makes peace.


To be honest with you I wondered that myself. It all boils down to who was backing the Desjardins clan. Will the remnants of the Cotroni clan get involved? Is the Ndrangheta from Toronto willing to continue this conflict when they have one in their own soil ? Is it Hamilton or will there be another Montreal clan leader that will emerge & want to challenge the leadership ?
One thing for sure the Rizzuto clan are willing to fight till death, they don't seem to be giving up.


Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/03/17 08:07 PM

Another point, Antonio De Blasio (a Rizzuto clan enforcer) was murdered back in August and adding the Del Balso incident proves that there is still someone out there giving opposition to the Rizzuto's. The big question is who ?
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/03/17 08:11 PM

Maybe Sal Montagna had still some support.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/03/17 08:26 PM

Originally Posted By: Hollander
Maybe Sal Montagna had still some support.


It is hard to say, he didn't have anyone when he was alive. He would brag that he had muscle from New York and was later proven wrong but it doesn't dismiss that a close and/or connected Montagna family member from the Bonnano's, may have put a contract; although I believe the later not to be the case.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/03/17 10:35 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: Hollander
Maybe Sal Montagna had still some support.


It is hard to say, he didn't have anyone when he was alive. He would brag that he had muscle from New York and was later proven wrong but it doesn't dismiss that a close and/or connected Montagna family member from the Bonnano's, may have put a contract; although I believe the later not to be the case.


True was thinking out of the box here, but what do we know about Montagna, don't forget he grew up in Sicily his family is probably old school.
Posted By: pmac

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/04/17 02:18 AM

Thats prettu sick killing people brothers who are probaly inncoent as a nun. But he did take pics with Vito. That shits is blood thirsty. Crazy your killing peoples dads and kids what do you expect. I said close the thread at page 50. Who the fuck knows whats going on today they havnt busted 1 murder in like all the pages except sal the iron worker and these guys will be out before this thread ends. Or sc stops paying for a web page.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/04/17 05:27 AM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: Hollander
Maybe Sal Montagna had still some support.


It is hard to say, he didn't have anyone when he was alive. He would brag that he had muscle from New York and was later proven wrong but it doesn't dismiss that a close and/or connected Montagna family member from the Bonnano's, may have put a contract; although I believe the later not to be the case.


He had guys around him in Montreal. Don't say you don't know that because you do. But obviously he didn't have wide support in the city and also not enough muscle. I'm confident however that when more evidence is made available it will only support his role in the coup even further. I think he had a bigger hand in the hits on [BadWord], Renda and Rizzuto than Desjardins.

As for the contract, do you think the Bonannos are not capable of it or that they don't care?
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/04/17 12:04 PM

And he had guys going after Desjardins himself.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/04/17 01:43 PM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: Hollander
Maybe Sal Montagna had still some support.


It is hard to say, he didn't have anyone when he was alive. He would brag that he had muscle from New York and was later proven wrong but it doesn't dismiss that a close and/or connected Montagna family member from the Bonnano's, may have put a contract; although I believe the later not to be the case.


He had guys around him in Montreal. Don't say you don't know that because you do. But obviously he didn't have wide support in the city and also not enough muscle. I'm confident however that when more evidence is made available it will only support his role in the coup even further. I think he had a bigger hand in the hits on [BadWord], Renda and Rizzuto than Desjardins.

As for the contract, do you think the Bonannos are not capable of it or that they don't care?


Of course he had guys around him. If you recall the Arcuri's,Devito, Desjardins,Montagna & others had formed an alliance. The people around him were all Canadians. In police recordings, the Desjardins clan were mocking Montagna about bring his New York guys that never materialized. They referred to him as Mickey Mouse if I recall.
From this fact, it is logical to conclude that if his New York muscle were not present when Montagna was alive and warring with the Rizzuto's; why would New York want to get involved after Montagna's death, if they haven't done so before. Furthermore, I have seen no evidence thus far of any Bonnano direct involvement, they may, and I underscore may, have been indirectly.
With regards to the second question, I think the Bonnano's would care to continue their business in Montreal but they lack Canadian muscle at the moment to do the job. The Arcuri's are close to the Bonnano's but they went underground when things got tough, their crew got wiped out. The Bonanno's had good relations also with the Cotroni's for several decades. It was the Rizzuto's that came in and upset the cards. They wanted total domination.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/04/17 03:47 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: Hollander
Maybe Sal Montagna had still some support.


It is hard to say, he didn't have anyone when he was alive. He would brag that he had muscle from New York and was later proven wrong but it doesn't dismiss that a close and/or connected Montagna family member from the Bonnano's, may have put a contract; although I believe the later not to be the case.


He had guys around him in Montreal. Don't say you don't know that because you do. But obviously he didn't have wide support in the city and also not enough muscle. I'm confident however that when more evidence is made available it will only support his role in the coup even further. I think he had a bigger hand in the hits on [BadWord], Renda and Rizzuto than Desjardins.

As for the contract, do you think the Bonannos are not capable of it or that they don't care?


Of course he had guys around him. If you recall the Arcuri's,Devito, Desjardins,Montagna & others had formed an alliance. The people around him were all Canadians. In police recordings, the Desjardins clan were mocking Montagna about bring his New York guys that never materialized. They referred to him as Mickey Mouse if I recall.
From this fact, it is logical to conclude that if his New York muscle were not present when Montagna was alive and warring with the Rizzuto's; why would New York want to get involved after Montagna's death, if they haven't done so before. Furthermore, I have seen no evidence thus far of any Bonnano direct involvement, they may, and I underscore may, have been indirectly.
With regards to the second question, I think the Bonnano's would care to continue their business in Montreal but they lack Canadian muscle at the moment to do the job. The Arcuri's are close to the Bonnano's but they went underground when things got tough, their crew got wiped out. The Bonanno's had good relations also with the Cotroni's for several decades. It was the Rizzuto's that came in and upset the cards. They wanted total domination.


It were Canadian associates of the Bonannos who aligned with him. And most of them were higher-ups in the Rizzuto organization, some id'd as made members. But their problem was that they weren't in charge of large crews. The lion share of street thugs were either still loyal to the Rizzuto organization or the dissidents De Vito and Desjardins.

Things had indeed changed for the Bonannos when the Rizzutos took over and basically formed their own organization apart from the Bonannos which also led to fragmentation. By the time Montagna came to Montreal there was not simply one Bonanno crew he could take over and be head of the Montreal Mafia. He had to work with others.

I think both Montagna and Desjardins mocked each other through intercepted messages. Desjardins also wrote that Montagna had broken his trust which means that they had a serious alliance before it fell apart.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/04/17 04:24 PM

Originally Posted By: pmac
Thats prettu sick killing people brothers who are probaly inncoent as a nun. But he did take pics with Vito. That shits is blood thirsty. Crazy your killing peoples dads and kids what do you expect. I said close the thread at page 50. Who the fuck knows whats going on today they havnt busted 1 murder in like all the pages except sal the iron worker and these guys will be out before this thread ends. Or sc stops paying for a web page.


Jacques was NOT innocent
Posted By: JC

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/05/17 05:25 AM

Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
Originally Posted By: pmac
Thats prettu sick killing people brothers who are probaly inncoent as a nun. But he did take pics with Vito. That shits is blood thirsty. Crazy your killing peoples dads and kids what do you expect. I said close the thread at page 50. Who the fuck knows whats going on today they havnt busted 1 murder in like all the pages except sal the iron worker and these guys will be out before this thread ends. Or sc stops paying for a web page.


Jacques was NOT innocent


Your heroes were scumbag drug dealers who got what was coming to them. Your idol couldn't save his son and his father, live with it.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/05/17 02:33 PM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black

It were Canadian associates of the Bonannos who aligned with him. And most of them were higher-ups in the Rizzuto organization, some id'd as made members. But their problem was that they weren't in charge of large crews.


Like I said earlier the Bonannos are rebuilding their ranks why not recruit over there with such a large Italian community.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/05/17 08:45 PM

A 36-year-old man was the victim of an attempted murder on Saturday night in Montreal's Ville-Marie borough.

According to information obtained by TVA News, the victim would be Tivon Bradshaw, who has already been prosecuted for the murder of a young man committed in 2003.

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/11/05/tentative-de-meurtre-dans-larrondissement-ville-marie
Posted By: thebigfella

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/05/17 09:36 PM

I think it would be in the rizzutos best interest to re establish connections with the banannos, the need to have captions controlling sections to prevent rebellion...congrats to the rizzutos for standing their grounds
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/06/17 12:29 PM

Originally Posted By: JC
Your heroes were scumbag drug dealers who got what was coming to them. Your idol couldn't save his son and his father, live with it.


WTF are you talking about? Hate to tell you, but my hero is my Grandmother. Not sure what she has to do with Montreal though.

Originally Posted By: thebigfella
the need to have captions controlling sections to prevent rebellion


Hate to tell you man but they haven't give a shit for years now, whether NYC was involved or not. Just look back at Montagna, a non-made guy pops him. They know NYC ain't coming across the border for shit...
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/08/17 04:00 PM

A body has been found in Laval, the suburb (city) just north of Montreal. The male victim has not yet been identified. One theory is that the victim is Raynald Desjardins' brother Jacques.

https://www.courrierlaval.com/faits-dive...villeneuve.html
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/08/17 08:03 PM

Cops are chasing Hells Angels out of bars in Quebec

https://news.vice.com/story/cops-are-chasing-hells-angels-out-of-bars-in-quebec
Posted By: pmac

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/09/17 03:24 AM

Has the body been identified? Weird they never let that old rizzuto guys body be found i think he was a cun terea or whatever. They found his benz or bmw idling down from his house. That guy was a heavyweight. I could imagine how bad anywon related to him just wants to bury there bones its so disrespectful to hide the body in 2017. If they want they can charge you for murder without a body we seen it alot.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/09/17 02:52 PM

Originally Posted By: pmac
Has the body been identified? Weird they never let that old rizzuto guys body be found i think he was a cun terea or whatever. They found his benz or bmw idling down from his house. That guy was a heavyweight. I could imagine how bad anywon related to him just wants to bury there bones its so disrespectful to hide the body in 2017. If they want they can charge you for murder without a body we seen it alot.


According to the French-language article to which I've linked below, the victim has been identified but is not Jacques Desjardins. The Laval police have yet to release a name.

https://www.courrierlaval.com/faits-dive...identifiee.html

The person you are thinking of whose body has never been found is Paola Renda (Vito Rizzuto's brother-in-law). The body of Giuseppe Renda, who is the nephew of George from Canada (Gerlando Sciascia), has also never been found.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/09/17 08:19 PM

Yea pmac you're thinking about Renda.

Anti, I didn't know Giuseppe Renda was Sciascia's nephew. Good stuff.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/09/17 09:05 PM

Originally Posted By: thebigfella
I think it would be in the rizzutos best interest to re establish connections with the banannos, the need to have captions controlling sections to prevent rebellion...congrats to the rizzutos for standing their grounds


http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/en/news/2017/r...ed-crime-canada

The Bonnano's & Gambino seem to have established connections to Ontario Ndrangheta instead.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/09/17 09:12 PM

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...urso-trial-told

Laval corruption trial: Accurso finally takes stand, flatly denies involvement.
Posted By: Stubbs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/09/17 11:42 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: thebigfella
I think it would be in the rizzutos best interest to re establish connections with the banannos, the need to have captions controlling sections to prevent rebellion...congrats to the rizzutos for standing their grounds


http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/en/news/2017/r...ed-crime-canada

The Bonnano's & Gambino seem to have established connections to Ontario Ndrangheta instead.


Wow, two Violi’s on that list too. I wonder if the Bonanno’s were pissed about disrepect from Vito Rizzuto and secretly funded their enemies in order to take back Montreal. Far-fetched, but nothing would surprise me anymore.
Posted By: pmac

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/10/17 01:54 AM

Kinda off topic over on the daily news they got a article about a bonanno induction ceremony in montreal. The guy being inducted wore a wire and the feds or mountain rangers got the whole thing on video. Say it happend in 2015 the guys were busted selling coke out of a gelato place in Manhattan. Figured this is a huge story.
Posted By: pmac

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/10/17 02:15 AM

It also says the feds and Mounties arrested 9 men part of the to dark family in Canada. Isnt that the boss of whatever left of buffalo mafia were. The feds say the got a video of the induction ceremony. They don't do the blood finger part.
Posted By: pmac

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/10/17 02:16 AM

Todaro family my auto correct on again.
Posted By: MegaMikejr

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/10/17 02:29 AM

http://nypost.com/2017/11/09/court-documents-reveal-details-of-mob-induction-ceremony/
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/11/17 01:36 AM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...urso-trial-told

Laval corruption trial: Accurso finally takes stand, flatly denies involvement.


Tony and associates in better days. grin

http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/cms/binary/10165581.jpg?size=640x420
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/11/17 05:21 PM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...iere-sortie.php

The members of the new squad Synergie, announced this week and set up to chase bikers and drug dealers from the bars of the North Shore of Montreal, made their first big exit Friday night. After 9 pm, several police officers from the Sûreté du Québec (SQ) and municipal police forces took over a lounge bar on the Côte de Nord Road in Boisbriand, where the bikers were holding a rally.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/12/17 03:07 AM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...iere-sortie.php

The members of the new squad Synergie, announced this week and set up to chase bikers and drug dealers from the bars of the North Shore of Montreal, made their first big exit Friday night. After 9 pm, several police officers from the Sûreté du Québec (SQ) and municipal police forces took over a lounge bar on the Côte de Nord Road in Boisbriand, where the bikers were holding a rally.



I don't think the Angels are impressed it's only bullying.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/13/17 12:11 PM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...-liberation.php

Rizzuto,Former criminal lawyer Loris Cavaliere, who was convicted of gangsterism at the beginning of the year, will be addressing Canadian parole commissioners for the first time Wednesday, asking for his freedom or permission to go to a halfway house.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/13/17 01:27 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...-liberation.php

Rizzuto,Former criminal lawyer Loris Cavaliere, who was convicted of gangsterism at the beginning of the year, will be addressing Canadian parole commissioners for the first time Wednesday, asking for his freedom or permission to go to a halfway house.


I wonder if he ain't in danger too?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/13/17 02:20 PM

Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...-liberation.php

Rizzuto,Former criminal lawyer Loris Cavaliere, who was convicted of gangsterism at the beginning of the year, will be addressing Canadian parole commissioners for the first time Wednesday, asking for his freedom or permission to go to a halfway house.



I wonder if he ain't in danger too?


Good point, he participated in criminal activity so he is free game.
Posted By: thebigfella

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/13/17 03:43 PM

So is it the banannos contingent getting revenge on the renegade rizzutos, or is there a third faction involved that turned against the rizzutos and bonannos?
Posted By: m2w

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/13/17 04:20 PM

Originally Posted By: thebigfella
So is it the banannos contingent getting revenge on the renegade rizzutos, or is there a third faction involved that turned against the rizzutos and bonannos?


probably two faction at first, the rizzuto's and the bonanno's led by montagna
later desjardin and dimaulo formed a third after the murder of montagna
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/13/17 05:04 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...-liberation.php

Rizzuto,Former criminal lawyer Loris Cavaliere, who was convicted of gangsterism at the beginning of the year, will be addressing Canadian parole commissioners for the first time Wednesday, asking for his freedom or permission to go to a halfway house.



I wonder if he ain't in danger too?


Good point, he participated in criminal activity so he is free game.


Years ago Frank Shoofey and Sidney Leithman both criminal lawyers who acted as defense lawyers for organized crime clans were killed in Montreal. Did they cross the line between being a lawyer and engaging in criminal activities with the people they defend ? Lawyers who do must consider the consequences of their actions.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/13/17 08:06 PM

Originally Posted By: thebigfella
So is it the banannos contingent getting revenge on the renegade rizzutos, or is there a third faction involved that turned against the rizzutos and bonannos?


Here is a little outline taken from different news clips and authors of mafia books.

-2009 Salvatore Montagna was deported to Canada.
- The feud against the Rizzuto's had begun years before Montagna's return to Montreal.
-Upon his return Sal made trips to Hamilton and Toronto with the objective to gain backing from Calabrian clans.
-While in Montreal he managed to form an alliance with the Arcuri clan and other Montreal clans such as Mirarchi/Desjardins, DeVito & others who were out of favor with the Rizzuto's.
-Dec.2009- Feb.2011 During this time, under this newly formed alliance, things started to happen at a rapid pace & high level targets from the Rizzuto clan were being murdered.
-Sept 2011 Sal Montagna later became overzealous,started to raise dues and pushing his weight around against some of the people (Desjardins) he had aligned himself with.
- Sept 16, 2011 An attempt was made on Desjardins life, and soon after the alliance quickly dissolved but the Arcuri's remained loyal to Montagna.
- Oct. 25,2011 Mirarchi (associate of desjardins) made a trip to Toronto .
-Next months ahead people from Arcuri's crew including Montagna were being killed.
- Oct 2012 Vito Rizzuto got out of jail and people opposed to him were being killed until he died in Dec. 2013. The war to this present day hasn't stopped

The Bonnano's may have played a role but there is no evidence to support it. It is unsure whether Sal Montagna planned this in New York prior to being deported or whether he decided this on his own.
I stopped the outline at 2011. When Vito Rizzuto got out of jail in Oct 2012, people opposed to him started to drop off until he died in Dec. 2013.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/14/17 10:58 AM

Man, 29, shot on sidewalk in Rosemont

http://montreal.ctvnews.ca/man-29-shot-on-sidewalk-in-rosemont-1.3676540
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/14/17 01:17 PM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/201711...e-une-taupe.php

A policeman from Terrebonne suspected of being a mole.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/16/17 03:43 AM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/11...-du-penitencier

Imprisoned for gangsterism since February, former Rizzuto clan lawyer Loris Cavaliere will soon leave the penitentiary to spend the next six months in a halfway house.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/16/17 05:12 AM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/11...-du-penitencier

Imprisoned for gangsterism since February, former Rizzuto clan lawyer Loris Cavaliere will soon leave the penitentiary to spend the next six months in a halfway house.


Loris Cavaliere en maison de transition

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...-transition.php
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/16/17 06:27 AM

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...angsterism-plea

“When someone from that milieu calls and (threatens you), you can’t call the police. It wouldn’t be appreciated,” he said of his past clientele, which he conceded was “mostly organized crime.”

“I sleep better now,” Cavaliere said.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/16/17 12:19 PM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...s-cavaliere.php

"I facilitated the activities of organized crime," admits former lawyer Loris Cavaliere
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/16/17 12:32 PM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/11...-du-penitencier

Mea culpa of the mafia lawyer
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/16/17 11:17 PM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...n-louisiane.php

Quebecer arrested with 80 kg of cocaine in Louisiana
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/17/17 12:18 AM

So he had his hands dirty at least, so he better be worried once he gets out or someone is likely to make those letters come true.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/17/17 01:45 AM

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...osing-arguments

Accurso's lawyer attacks credibility of witnesses in closing arguments
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/17/17 01:51 AM

Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
So he had his hands dirty at least, so he better be worried once he gets out or someone is likely to make those letters come true.


He says he slept good in jail why ask to be released ?
If I were him I would skip town.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/19/17 05:43 PM

Former Family Minister Tony Tomassi was arrested Friday night after trying to solicit sexual services from a policewoman pretending to be a prostitute, La Presse revealed Sunday.

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/11...dune-prostituee

Tomassi have been linked in the past to Italian mafia member Domenico Arcuri.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/20/17 02:49 AM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...n-louisiane.php

Quebecer arrested with 80 kg of cocaine in Louisiana


There is guy with that name living in Laval.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/20/17 03:44 AM

Originally Posted By: Hollander
Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...n-louisiane.php

Quebecer arrested with 80 kg of cocaine in Louisiana


There is guy with that name living in Laval.


What is wrong about him living in Laval ?
His last name Baril means barrel in French.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/20/17 11:46 AM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: Hollander
Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...n-louisiane.php

Quebecer arrested with 80 kg of cocaine in Louisiana


There is guy with that name living in Laval.


What is wrong about him living in Laval ?
His last name Baril means barrel in French.


Nothing, but that is the only thing I could find about his history. This was probably not the first time he made that ride to the US.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/20/17 05:03 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...s-cavaliere.php

"I facilitated the activities of organized crime," admits former lawyer Loris Cavaliere


I think that statement alone is sufficient enough to seal his fate.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/20/17 06:51 PM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...s-cavaliere.php

"I facilitated the activities of organized crime," admits former lawyer Loris Cavaliere


I think that statement alone is sufficient enough to seal his fate.


I agree, he is a liability. People he defended may come to the realization that he knows too much and has to go;for the reason Cavaliere may decide one day to use this information to gain favor with law enforcement. Furthermore, opponents may also want to seize that information to have the upper hand.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/21/17 01:31 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...s-cavaliere.php

"I facilitated the activities of organized crime," admits former lawyer Loris Cavaliere


I think that statement alone is sufficient enough to seal his fate.


I agree, he is a liability. People he defended may come to the realization that he knows too much and has to go;for the reason Cavaliere may decide one day to use this information to gain favor with law enforcement. Furthermore, opponents may also want to seize that information to have the upper hand.


Agreed.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/22/17 01:54 AM

Daniel Renaud has written a great article that in some parts sheds light on the murders of Antonio De Blasio, Gaétan Gosselin, and Vincenzo Scuderi, with the first of these individuals being somehow implicated in the murders of the other two. The article also gives some possible insight about the firebombing of the Loreto funeral home back in April.

Un détenu avale son cellulaire pour le cacher

http://plus.lapresse.ca/screens/f5205bc9-c7ea-4eed-b4fd-901b55267456__7C___0.html
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/22/17 12:35 PM

RIVIÈRE-DES-PRAIRIES DETENTION FACILITY
AN INMATE SWALLOWS HIS CELL PHONE ... TO HIDE IT
Surgery was required to retrieve the device, which the authorities then seized.
DANIEL RENAUD Edition of November 21, 2017,
THE PRESS
Montreal police, have been given a warrant to seize and analyze a cell phone that was swallowed by an accused in prison and removed from his stomach during surgery, according to court documents obtained by La Presse .

The accused in question is 28-year-old Vladimir Laguerre, an individual who has been detained since June and charged with conspiracy and possession of a weapon following the police operation Mazout, to solve a murder and arson in the context tensions within the mafia.

Last summer, he was in possession of a cell phone as big as a car dongle that had passed through the walls of the Rivière-des-Prairies Detention Center and swallowed it just before the guards proceeded. a search in his area.

But the cell phone has never been evacuated by natural means. On August 19, Laguerre was transported to Santa Cabrini Hospital - which is located near the prison - and underwent surgery to allow doctors to remove the device. The phone was then handed over to correctional officers.

"I've already heard about minicellulars that detainees hid in their cavities, but never had adetainee swallow one. We find this little cell phone just like smart phones that arrive by drones. There is now a new problem: phones installed in watches. The evolution of technology gives us headaches, and the problem is always the same: the Department should invest to allow us to detect these devices, "responded the president of the Union of Correctional Officers of Quebec, Mathieu The way.


A LINK WITH A MURDER VICTIM?
The police asked, by mandate, to be able to seize the phone to have it analyzed, because it believes that it contains information which could help it in the investigation and the procedures of Fuel oil and - without making play on words - on the internal wars and the tensions that still shake the Montreal mafia.

The police, who obtained the phone, wants to check whether there was any exchange between the Laguerre device and those of Antonio De Blasio, an individual linked to the mafia killed in front of his son who came from complete a football training session on the evening of August 16 in a park in the Borough of Saint-Léonard.

Antonio De Blasio had been linked to organized crime for several years. He was the link between various Italian groups and various street gangs. He was the one who recruited members of street gangs to commit various crimes on behalf of organized crime, "reads the documents.

De Blasio himself was the subject of an investigation as part of the Mazout project. The examination of the file continued in his case, and he could have been accused of gangsterism if he had not been killed, one learns also in the papers.

OTHER REVEALING MESSAGES
According to the documents, before being murdered, De Blasio also exchanged text messages with some of the five individuals linked to street gangs convicted of the murders of Gaétan Gosselin and Vincenzo Scuderi, committed in January 2013. Gosselin was the Raynald Desjardins's friend and confidant, and Scuderi had the same status with the late clan leader Giuseppe De Vito, who was poisoned by cyanide in his cell at Donnacona Penitentiary in the summer of 2013.

"De Blasio has, for the duration of the electronic surveillance, put pressure on several people to get money for the five defendants. He had to take care of the money for the canteens, for the payment of legal fees, for the defendants and their respective families ", describes a police officer in the documents.

The analysis of the murder of Gaétan Gosselin directs the police directly to the Sicilian clan, says one.

An important meeting was held in downtown Montreal on April 18, between De Blasio and another individual, on one side, and two influential people associated with the Sicilian clan, on the other. The purpose of the meeting would have been to discuss upcoming payments for the five accused, according to the documents.

On the night of April 25, 2017, arson was lit at the Loreto Funeral Complex, a legitimate facade of the Rizzuto and Renda families. The police believe that the fire sponsors wanted to put pressure on the Sicilian clan for a sum of money to be paid.

On May 9, the Sicilians would have paid the money, according to the police. Five weeks later, the five accused of the Gosselin and Scuderi murders pleaded guilty to a reduced chief of conspiracy and were sentenced to between 9 and 18 years.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/22/17 02:36 PM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...r-le-cacher.php

Here is a picture of a similar cell phone he swallowed.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/22/17 03:15 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...r-le-cacher.php

Here is a picture of a similar cell phone he swallowed.


This guy is nuts. Regularly swallowing your cell phone eats up all your data.
Posted By: Marcow

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/22/17 07:02 PM

On which side in this War you think are the Cun-Caruana Clan?


On the side of the sicilian wing from the Rizzuto Clan, or on the side of the Coluccio Clan, or maybe on the side from a other fraction?

You think the Cun-Caruana have a lot of power in Canada this days?

You think the Clan play a role in the war and if so which ones?



Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/22/17 07:47 PM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...r-le-cacher.php

Here is a picture of a similar cell phone he swallowed.


This guy is nuts. Regularly swallowing your cell phone eats up all your data.


He really did not want to part with his cell phone. smile
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/22/17 08:29 PM

Originally Posted By: Marcow
On which side in this War you think are the Cun-Caruana Clan?


On the side of the sicilian wing from the Rizzuto Clan, or on the side of the Coluccio Clan, or maybe on the side from a other fraction?

You think the Cun-Caruana have a lot of power in Canada this days?

You think the Clan play a role in the war and if so which ones?



No idea, we hear very little from the Caruanas side in recent years we only know Alfonso is in a Sardinian prison.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/22/17 09:38 PM

Originally Posted By: Marcow
On which side in this War you think are the Cun-Caruana Clan?


On the side of the sicilian wing from the Rizzuto Clan, or on the side of the Coluccio Clan, or maybe on the side from a other fraction?

You think the Cun-Caruana have a lot of power in Canada this days?

You think the Clan play a role in the war and if so which ones?





In Montreal Liborio Cun-trera (son of Agostino) is busy fighting a war along side with the Rizzuto's and in Greater Toronto area someone wants them out of Toronto. One of the Cun-trera had their house shot at, the other had his house burned down and the bakery where one of them hung out was the target of arson. If you read news articles and passages of books written on them. They do mention that they were doing business with both the Rizzuto's and the Coluccio clan (Ndrangheta) but I do not think that some of the other Ndrangheta clans were on board with this.
It looks like they are running into some competition right now.
Posted By: Marcow

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/24/17 09:24 AM

Thank you for the Answer. I think also the Caruana-Cun Clan is not on the side from the Coluccios and other Calabrian Clans.

I think they work together with the Rest of the Rizzuto Family.


I am surprised that the Commisso clan has almost no losses in the War.

The clan is almost not attacked. Do you think they protect themselves better? I read a commisso has disappeared from Ontario.

Do you think the wolf pack or other factions attack in the past or in the future the commissos?

We hear and read so little about the commissos and the rest of the Siderno group.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/24/17 08:09 PM

http://montrealgazette.com/news/former-h...t-halfway-house

Former Hells Angel leader no longer required to reside at halfway house
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/25/17 11:13 PM

2 days ago they arrested the Hells Angel Marco Bordage, he was on the top 10 most wanted criminals list in Quebec.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/29/17 08:09 PM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...a-identifie.php

The individual responsible for the attack against the clan leader of the mafia Salvatore Scoppa identified.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/29/17 08:59 PM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/11...gereux-individu

English translation:
MAXIME DELAND
Wednesday, 29 November 2017 13:24
Update Wednesday, 29 November 2017 13:24
Police are on the heels of a dangerous suspect suspected of murder in Montreal and attempting to murder a well-known Mafioso a few months earlier in Lachenaie on the North Shore.
Frédérick Silva, 36, is wanted under a Canada-wide arrest warrant. The police consider him armed and dangerous.
On February 21, Silva and 10 of her friends showed up at a restaurant in Lachenaie, where Salvatore Scoppa, 47, was a prominent actor in the Montreal mafia.

Silva then opened fire several times towards Scoppa, hitting him twice.
Frédérick Silva would then have pursued his victim to try to finish it, but would have finally decided to turn back and leave the premises in a hurry in his vehicle, a luxurious Range Rover red.

A few months later, at the end of May, Silva was involved in an altercation with another man inside the Les Amazones dancers' bar, located in the Notre-Dame-de-Grâce district of Montreal.
The dispute
Silva and the other man were then expelled from the establishment. The dispute escalated to the point where the suspect allegedly pulled a firearm and fired at his rival, reaching Daniel Armando Somoza Guildea deadly.
Frédérick Silva is currently one of the 10 most wanted criminals in Quebec. It is 1.75m (5'9 ") and weighs 88kg (194lb). He has several tattoos.
The police warn people who see him not to approach him, but instead to do 911 immediately.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/29/17 10:03 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...a-identifie.php

The individual responsible for the attack against the clan leader of the mafia Salvatore Scoppa identified.


"Montreal murder suspect Frédérick Silva now wanted in connection with Lachenaie shooting"

http://www.cbc.ca/1.4424954
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/29/17 10:47 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/11...gereux-individu

English translation:
MAXIME DELAND
Wednesday, 29 November 2017 13:24
Update Wednesday, 29 November 2017 13:24
Police are on the heels of a dangerous suspect suspected of murder in Montreal and attempting to murder a well-known Mafioso a few months earlier in Lachenaie on the North Shore.
Frédérick Silva, 36, is wanted under a Canada-wide arrest warrant. The police consider him armed and dangerous.
On February 21, Silva and 10 of her friends showed up at a restaurant in Lachenaie, where Salvatore Scoppa, 47, was a prominent actor in the Montreal mafia.

Silva then opened fire several times towards Scoppa, hitting him twice.
Frédérick Silva would then have pursued his victim to try to finish it, but would have finally decided to turn back and leave the premises in a hurry in his vehicle, a luxurious Range Rover red.

A few months later, at the end of May, Silva was involved in an altercation with another man inside the Les Amazones dancers' bar, located in the Notre-Dame-de-Grâce district of Montreal.
The dispute
Silva and the other man were then expelled from the establishment. The dispute escalated to the point where the suspect allegedly pulled a firearm and fired at his rival, reaching Daniel Armando Somoza Guildea deadly.
Frédérick Silva is currently one of the 10 most wanted criminals in Quebec. It is 1.75m (5'9 ") and weighs 88kg (194lb). He has several tattoos.
The police warn people who see him not to approach him, but instead to do 911 immediately.



Link to the SPVM news release:

https://spvm.qc.ca/fr/PersonnesRecherchees/AvisDeRecherche/300

Silva is on Quebec's list of the 10 most wanted -- see http://www.10criminelsrecherches.qc.ca/pages/silva_frederick/en_profile.html.
Posted By: m2w

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/30/17 08:07 AM

is silva connected to organized crime/street gangs or is he just a though street guy?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/30/17 11:44 AM

Originally Posted By: m2w
is silva connected to organized crime/street gangs or is he just a though street guy?


According to news sources he is most likely a hired killer for the mafia.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/30/17 12:43 PM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/11...e-stupefiants-1

A big blow to Saguenay regional organized crime Twenty individuals linked to the Hells arrested Wednesday, including 14 in the Chicoutimi region.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/30/17 12:46 PM

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/n...enaie-1.4424954

NDG murder suspect now wanted for attempted murder in Lachenaie.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/30/17 12:57 PM

Damn he's living up the Wild West up there ain't he?
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/30/17 01:06 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/n...enaie-1.4424954

NDG murder suspect now wanted for attempted murder in Lachenaie.


Police want your help to find Frédérick Silva, from Quebec 'most wanted' list

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...st-wanted-list/
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/30/17 03:32 PM

Any news on the execution of Vincent Lamer?

https://www.google.nl/amp/montrealgazett...ng-for-life/amp
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/30/17 05:36 PM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...tore-scoppa.php

The fugitive Frederick Silva accused of attempting to kill the clan leader of the mafia Salvatore Scoppa.

The alleged hitman Frederick Silva, one of the ten most wanted criminals in Quebec, is accused of attempted murder on the clan leader of the mafia Salvatore Scoppa, February 21, in Terrebonne.

The warrant of arrest filed last week by the Police Department of the City of Montreal (SPVM) was filed Thursday morning at the courthouse in Montreal. Frederick Silva is also charged with unloading a prohibited firearm against Salvatore Scoppa, possessing a charged prohibited firearm and contravening a court order by detaining a Smith & Wesson revolver and ammunition .

Frederick Silva, 37, has been actively pursued since the beginning of June by the SPVM Major Crime Investigators and the Sûreté du Québec (SQ) Crimes Against the Person. Yesterday, the police renewed their appeal to the population in the hope of finding the dangerous fugitive.

According to our information, Silva was with a dozen people, including individuals linked to Lebanese organized crime, the evening of February 21, at a restaurant in the Lachenaie sector in Terrebonne. Salvatore Scoppa was at a nearby table, with two other people, a man and a woman.

When Salvatore Scoppa came out of the restaurant with his escorts, an individual fired at him several times as the clan leader was near his vehicle. The suspect, whom the police believe to be Frederick Silva, chased the victim a short distance before stopping the race and fleeing into a red Range Rover SUV.

The police identified five people who were with Silva that night, but are still trying to identify the other five.

Silva, who is now on a Canada-wide warrant, has been wanted by police since May 24, when he shot and killed a client at Les Amazones cabaret in Montreal following a trivial dispute.

Silva is currently wanted for this murder and for the attempted murder against Scoppa. He is considered very dangerous. The police recommend that anyone who crosses it not act alone and communicate with 911. Sources told La Presse that Silva may be involved in other violent events and that he would have acted as an executioner for the clan. Sicilian Montreal Mafia still considered the most influential by the police.

The police tried a few times to put the hook on him, in vain.

***

Major Crimes of the SPVM: (514) 280-2052

Info-Crime: (514) 393-1133

The information will be treated confidentially
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/30/17 06:13 PM

Originally Posted By: Hollander
Any news on the execution of Vincent Lamer?

https://www.google.nl/amp/montrealgazett...ng-for-life/amp


One theory out there mentioned in the LaPresse news,was that the shooting was due to an internal purge going on within the Hells Angels.

I have a theory of my own. Vincent Lamer was shot on November 3,2017 and Jacques Desjardins the brother of Raynald went missing around the same time.
Vincent Lamer was a close confident of Maurice "mom" Boucher. Mom Boucher was caught in the Magot Mastiff for plotting to murder Raynald Desjardins. I am just wondering if a feud is going on between Mom and Raynald. Time will tell.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/30/17 10:18 PM

I think Mom most likely wanted to collect the contract on Desjardins. I think it's the same situation with Silva, who saw an opportunity to kill Scoppa. Doesn't seem like a planned hit with all those potential witnesses..
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/01/17 12:41 AM

You would have figured they would have passed word to whoever is leading the HA's now on the outside than to go to Mom knowing they would watch everything said to him. That seemed really risky using his daughter.

I agree Sonny on Silva, sounds like he just ran into him and decided he was going to make a name for himself. That was very sloppy. Why not wait outside the club for him to come out? That would have been better than gunning for him in front of everyone.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/01/17 05:56 AM

Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
You would have figured they would have passed word to whoever is leading the HA's now on the outside than to go to Mom knowing they would watch everything said to him. That seemed really risky using his daughter.

I agree Sonny on Silva, sounds like he just ran into him and decided he was going to make a name for himself. That was very sloppy. Why not wait outside the club for him to come out? That would have been better than gunning for him in front of everyone.


He followed Scoppa outside the restaurant before shooting him. Still many people would've seen him which is why the police is certain he did it.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/02/17 10:47 PM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...-de-cocaine.php

Soninder Dhingra(Montrealer), 44, is charged with conspiracy and drug importation.He is accused of importing 94 kg of cocaine, has connections to Marco Pizzi.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/04/17 01:03 PM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/12/04/une-pharmacie-volante-dans-un-penitencier

Prison authorities cut the wings of a network of drugs and cell phones dropped by drones at Archambault medium security penitentiary in Ste-Anne-des-Plaines.
As a punishment, two of the major resellers were transferred to Donnacona Maximum Security Penitentiary, where the use of this technology by detainees is harsh.
Aldo Franchini, a Montrealer incarcerated for manslaughter and Leonard Freedom Ballantyne, who was deprived of his liberty for a murder in western Canada, challenged their transfer to court, but Justice Louis Dionne has just ruled in favor of the correctional service.


Aldo Franchini
Inmate
Out of bounds
Last July, Le Journal reported that the direction of the "Max" Donnacona had banned outings to his inmates in the large outdoor courtyard for 45 days because the penitentiary had received the visit of drones.

Pot, hash, heroine ...
This decision of the Superior Court shows that, like provincial prisons, federal penitentiaries are not immune to this phenomenon.
The network of Archambault Penitentiary had been delivered "significant quantities" of cell phones, tobacco, hashish and even heroin, according to management.
Correctional officers also learned that an unmanned aerial drone had delivered 1000 logs of hydromorphone - a derivative of morphine - and wax, a kind of cannabis resin five times more potent than marijuana sold in the outdoor yard. on the black market.
Related to organized crime
"Several inmates involved" in the network were associated with organized crime as drone smuggling "requires contacts and means outside walls that few inmates possess," said a prison security officer.
Franchini and Ballantyne are considered "relations" of street gangs.
The first was connected to the "18" - a gang of red allegiance in the Saint-Léonard sector - and was only 18 when he was arrested for stabbing another youth in the summer of 2011.
However, no criminal charges were laid against them for these contraband activities.
Prior to their transfer to Donnacona, they were sent to the "hole" (in isolation) as a disciplinary measure as many other accomplices.
Joined by Le Journal , the Correctional Service of Canada (CSC) did not want to specify the exact number of prisoners sanctioned in this file and could not specify the number of intrusions by drones into its penitentiaries in 2017.
TURBULENCE ZONE
106 flights of UAVs identified in the 19 Québec prisons between April 2016 and March 2017 (27 in 2015-2016).
20 incidents involving drones in federal penitentiaries in Quebec between 2013 and 2016, including 9 at Cowansville.
3 detained s In June 2017, three inmates of Donnacona penitentiary were arrested when their drone drug delivery was thwarted. They pleaded guilty and received prison sentences ranging from six months to two years.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/06/17 12:54 PM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...re-cazzetta.php

HELLS ANGELS
SALVATORE CAZZETTA RELEASED FOR THE THIRD TIME
DANIEL RENAUD
THE PRESS Edition of December 6, 2017
The influential Hells Angel Salvatore Cazzetta, whose trial for concealment was to begin today, will be released for the third time in six years. The press has learned from a reliable source that the prosecution will file this morning at the courthouse in Montreal, a nolle prosequi , a form of abandonment of prosecution.

The reasons for this flip-flop of the prosecution, which comes after the defense has filed motions to stop the judicial process and to disclose evidence, are unknown.

Cazzetta, who will turn 63 in a few days, was arrested in November 2015 as part of the Magot-Mastiff investigation, in which the police decapitated a Mafia-biker-street gang alliance that directed organized crime in Montreal. that time.


The police, who were investigating the activities of a drug trafficking network, had in particular followed an individual who had transported an envelope of money to a shop owned by the motorcyclist in the Joliette area. A publication ban, however, prevents us from giving more details on this matter.

Initially, Cazzetta faced three counts of conspiracy, gangsterism and receiving. But the conspiracy charge was withdrawn in the following months, while Cazzetta was released by the Superior Court from that of gangsterism last summer. The motorcyclist had been detained since his arrest, and his lawyers then obtained provisional release, including the fact that he had already served more than the penalty normally imposed for a Hijacker if convicted.

NEVER TWO WITHOUT THREE
Arrested in Operation SharQc in April 2009, Cazzetta was one of 31 released in May 2011 due to delays already considered unreasonable by Justice James L. Brunton of the Superior Court.

In October 2016, he benefited from a halt in the judicial process following his arrest in the Machine project conducted in 2009 against alleged cigarette traffickers established in particular in the Kahnawake Native American Reserve.

Cazzetta, former Rock Machine boss - enemies of the Hells Angels during the biker war in the 90s - went to the other side in 2004-2005. He and a few other members, most of them former Rock Machine for the most part, kept the Hells Angels home while almost all of them were imprisoned as a result of Operation SharQc.

The release of Cazzetta, if it materializes today, comes after the 40 th anniversary of the establishment of the Hells Angels in Quebec. The biker will surely be expected at the anticipated party by the police that bikers should hold next weekend to mark this anniversary.

Recall, however, that a nolle prosequi leaves a door open to the prosecution, who can accuse an individual again within one year.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/08/17 04:18 AM

Forty years ago, the Hells Angels settled in Quebec. Police expect to see them present this weekend to celebrate. They are now much more discreet and have infiltrated the legal trade.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/08/17 04:12 PM

Article to which I've linked below isn't related to the mob war but does make you wonder whether Antonio Pietrantonio is criminally active.

À la recherche des Riopelle volés

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...pelle-voles.php
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/08/17 10:07 PM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...de-coupable.php

Ex-bodyguard of Tony Magi pleads guilty.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/10/17 02:11 PM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/12/09/dans-lantichambre-dune--guerre-sans-merci

Going back in time:

Former Hells Angels and enemy bikers tell how their battle broke out, killing more than 160 people
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/10/17 04:39 PM

Hells Angels hold 40th anniversary bash in St-Marc-Sur-Richelieu sugar shack
CTV Montreal
Published Saturday, December 9, 2017 2:26PM EST
Last Updated Saturday, December 9, 2017 11:13PM EST

One of the world’s most notorious biker gangs is celebrating its fortieth anniversary in Quebec with some of the province’s traditional food and local officials said they’re confident security will be sufficient.
The Hells Angels gathered at the Handfield Sugar Shack in St-Marc-Sur-Richelieu on Saturday. Local city councillor Pascal Smith said the city was only made aware of the event on Friday.
“We don’t usually have to be aware of everything going on in St-Marc,” he said. “As far as we’re concerned, it’s just a group of people having a gathering.”
Smith said responsibility for monitoring the situation is the jurisdiction of the Surete du Quebec and no extra local resources will be used.
“We trust the SQ will do its work,” he said. “We don’t see a problem with the security with the event.”
He added that it’s not the first time the Hells Angels have descended on the town but no problems were reported in those prior instances.
“We have no idea what’s going to be happening in there,” he said “It’s a social gathering in a restaurant… we’re not aware of anything else.”

http://montreal.ctvnews.ca/hells-angels-...shack-1.3714615
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/11/17 11:56 AM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/12/11/une-residence-luxueuse-visee-par-un-cocktail-molotov-1

A luxurious residence targeted by a Molotov cocktail
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/12/17 02:50 AM

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...murder-in-n-d-g

Getaway driver convicted of double murder in N.D.G.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/12/17 05:27 AM

Originally Posted By: Hollander


The Italian-language report to which I have linked below repeats, in some places, copy that was in a previous report (found at Hollander's link, for example) of which the Italian senator Giuseppe Lumia was also a co-author. Whether you're on a laptop, desktop, or mobile device, this newer report should be easy to have translated to English. Warning: There are some significant errors in the Italian report that all of you will be able to spot immediately.

Link:

http://osservatoriomediterraneosullamafia.blogspot.ca/2017/11/report-2017-fondazione-antonino.html

REPORT 2017
FONDAZIONE ANTONINO CAPONNETTO
LA GUERRA DI MAFIA
ITALO-CANADESE

A cura di

Salvatore Calleri
Giuseppe Lumia
Simona Trombetta
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/12/17 11:00 AM

Lol I forgot I posted that article.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/12/17 03:36 PM

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/en/news/2017/investigation-cendrier-arrests-trafficking-illegal-tobacco

Investigation Cendrier: Several arrests for trafficking illegal tobacco
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/12/17 03:46 PM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...-aux-aguets.php


RELEASE OF VITTORIO MIRARCHI
POLICE ON THE LOOKOUT
DANIEL RENAUD
LaPresse Dec.12,2017
The various police forces in Quebec are on the lookout, a few days before Christmas, with the imminent release from jail of an influential member of the Montreal mafia.

Condemned last September for plotting the murder of the aspiring sponsor Salvatore Montagna committed in November 2011, Raynald Desjardins's protégé, Vittorio Mirarchi, and two members of his close guard will soon leave the prison, their sentences served.

Mirarchi, 40, was sentenced to nine years in penitentiary last September, with the judge endorsing a joint suggestion between the Crown and the defense called a "compromise" by the prosecutor. But subtracting the period of pre-trial detention, calculated in time and a half, he had only four and a half months to serve.

A FILM PAUSED

Mirarchi, Desjardins and half a dozen other individuals were arrested on December 20, 2011, a month after the Montagna murder, largely because the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) was investigating the Mafia succession. Montreal, had found a way to intercept the text messages of members of their clan. The mafia was then shaken by an internal war, three clans this time: Rizzuto, Desjardins and Montagna.


"On December 20, 2011, it's a bit like putting the film on pause. It may be that with the release of Mirarchi, someone presses the button again, "a police officer told La Presse.

According to reports, Mafia clan chiefs have called a meeting or meetings in the coming days to try to know what to expect or be fixed on certain intentions in the context of this release.

"We are attentive and proactive to follow the evolution of the situation which is very unpredictable. We can not predict what will happen, "said Montreal police commander Nicodemo Milano last week when asked by La Presse about the release of Mirarchi.

The latter is considered by the police as a major importer of cocaine, even though he was not charged with such a crime - despite evidence that could have been overwhelming - following the Clemenza investigation conducted by the RCMP in 2011.

Mirarchi has strong support in Ontario, particularly in the Ottawa area.

RELATIVE CALM

Weakened by years of internal wars, the Montreal mafia currently has a cellular and linear structure - not pyramid - and is composed of predominantly Calabrian and Sicilian clans who do business together and share their expertise.

Commander Milano, who speaks on his behalf and not on behalf of the other police forces, says that there is currently calm in Montreal, that there is no leader who stands out from the others and no clan dominant, although that of Rizzuto-Sollecito (Sicilians) has strengthened a little in recent months.

The latest attack on the Montreal mafia occurred in mid-August when Antonio De Blasio was killed in front of his 12-year-old son who had just finished a football training in a park in the Saint-Léonard neighborhood.

"There is a relative calm in the city of Montreal. Traditional Italian Organized Crime (COTI) is always looking for networking to raise profits, and these are associations by opportunity, not by culture, village or language. "

- Nicodemo Milano, Commander of the Organized Crime Division (COD) of the Montreal Police

"Since Operation Magot-Mastiff in November 2015, we have not identified a" table "or alliance of mafia clans. For several reasons. The important actors are incarcerated, they are very afraid to assume a position and a role of chief or they operate in total secrecy and with many intermediaries. The leader places several individuals between himself and the executors to isolate himself from possible criminal charges and, most importantly in the current context, to avoid being killed, "adds the officer.

According to Commander Milano, several members of the Mafia currently stand back, waiting to prove their loyalty to a leader who stands out, and for the moment, there would be none.

Commander Milano says that alliances within the mafia are currently very short-lived and that there is no intention among Mafiosi from Ontario, the United States or Italy to come to Montreal .
Posted By: thebigfella

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/13/17 03:56 AM

Good to see sollecito held his ground
Posted By: JC

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/13/17 04:04 AM

Originally Posted By: thebigfella
Good to see sollecito held his ground


Why is he a a friend of yours?
Posted By: thebigfella

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/13/17 04:33 AM

He's a friend of yours too, why else is he here
Posted By: thebigfella

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/13/17 04:34 AM

Why else are you here?
Posted By: JC

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/13/17 04:56 AM

Originally Posted By: thebigfella
Why else are you here?


Do you think at all before you post? Did you sustain a head injury at some point or were you born this way?
Posted By: JC

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/13/17 04:58 AM

Originally Posted By: thebigfella
He's a friend of yours too, why else is he here


He is not a friend of mine, do you actually think that he is a friend of yours? If so, that is really sad, you need to leave the fantasy world in your head and join the real world.
Posted By: thebigfella

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/13/17 05:16 AM

You really are special to ask me a question like that...your here because we share the same interest so if you assumed that He's my friend then I must assume that he's your friend also
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/13/17 06:14 AM


Le «futur parrain» libéré de prison
Les policiers croient que Vittorio Mirarchi pourrait diriger la mafia montréalaise

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/12/13/le-futur-parrain-libere-de-prison
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/13/17 11:20 AM

The article mentions:

"According to police circles, Vittorio Mirarchi having gotten his freedom yesterday, is predicted to be the next godfather of the Montreal mafia."

I just find the comments by law enforcement to be premature. I do not think for a moment that the Rizzuto clan will accept him. Too much blood as been spilled, the sons of Sollecito,Cun-trera, Spagnolo,Rizzuto are still in play wanting to avenge their fathers deaths.Even if they do accept, it will only be temporary. What Mirarchi has got going for him are his connections with the Ontario Calabrians. I could also see some of the rival gangs unite behind him if he chooses to assume the position. It will also depend which sides the Hells will choose.
One thing for sure, whoever assumes the throne will be a marked man.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/13/17 11:39 AM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/12/12/un-ancien-bar-incendie-pour-une-seconde-fois-a-montreal

The former bar Latour, which had been a prey to the flames a few years ago, was again the target of a fire on Tuesday night in the Verdun borough of Montreal.
Posted By: thebigfella

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/13/17 12:59 PM

How can he go from being Vito's enemy to the godfather?
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/13/17 01:19 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
The article mentions:

"According to police circles, Vittorio Mirarchi having gotten his freedom yesterday, is predicted to be the next godfather of the Montreal mafia."

I just find the comments by law enforcement to be premature. I do not think for a moment that the Rizzuto clan will accept him. Too much blood as been spilled, the sons of Sollecito,Cun-trera, Spagnolo,Rizzuto are still in play wanting to avenge their fathers deaths.Even if they do accept, it will only be temporary. What Mirarchi has got going for him are his connections with the Ontario Calabrians. I could also see some of the rival gangs unite behind him if he chooses to assume the position. It will also depend which sides the Hells will choose.
One thing for sure, whoever assumes the throne will be a marked man.


This newer article's claims, of course, clash with those in Daniel Renaud's article, which was published some 14 or 15 hours earlier than Thibault's.

Mirarchi's allies in Ottawa, Ontario may very well be the long-established 'ndrina that answers to the Siderno Group in the Toronto area. But again, I suspect that whatever animosity existed between some elements of the GTA Siderno Group and the remnants of the Sollecito-Rizzuto faction may now be over. Cosimo Commisso's wife is Facebook friends with one of Giovanna Rizzuto's first cousins in the GTA whose father headed (heads?) the Toronto Sicilian Group--Giovanna's uncle has longstanding ties, including criminal ones, to the Commisso brothers and other senior Siderno Group figures. Elena Veltri (Agostino [BadWord]'s wife) is Facebook friends with Giuseppe "Little Joe" [BadWord] (Paolo's son). I'm not at all embarrassed that I scour social media, which law enforcement also does, to find photos, posts, and comments that all help to untangle possible relationships between individuals and between groups of people.

If the GTA Siderno Group does not want to help Mirarchi in whatever war he may continue to wage in Montreal, he will still probably criminally collaborate with the Siderno Group. If Paolo Violi's sons have chosen, for whatever reason, to affiliate themselves with the New York Bonannos--I'm theorizing based on the recent Project Otremens bust--then I don't know what relationship Domenico and Giuseppe have with Mirarchi and Desjardins today.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/13/17 01:27 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
The article mentions:

"According to police circles, Vittorio Mirarchi having gotten his freedom yesterday, is predicted to be the next godfather of the Montreal mafia."

I just find the comments by law enforcement to be premature. I do not think for a moment that the Rizzuto clan will accept him. Too much blood as been spilled, the sons of Sollecito,Cun-trera, Spagnolo,Rizzuto are still in play wanting to avenge their fathers deaths.Even if they do accept, it will only be temporary. What Mirarchi has got going for him are his connections with the Ontario Calabrians. I could also see some of the rival gangs unite behind him if he chooses to assume the position. It will also depend which sides the Hells will choose.
One thing for sure, whoever assumes the throne will be a marked man.


Agreed yet again. I think he has as much change of becoming the next godfather as Leonardo Rizzuto. He has too many enemies to be unanimously accepted as the supreme leader. It isn't even that long ago that there were reports stating that there wouldn't be another godfather and that the clans opposing the Rizzuto group wanted a horizontal structure. This article won't help much either. It's better to rise to the top silently. Perhaps a tactic applied by the police to stirr things up?

Speaking of which, during the Charbonneau hearings the RCMP stated that Le Clan Calabrais was in power. Then a year later Rizzuto came home and all of a sudden he was back on top again..
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/13/17 02:26 PM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: Ciment
The article mentions:

"According to police circles, Vittorio Mirarchi having gotten his freedom yesterday, is predicted to be the next godfather of the Montreal mafia."

I just find the comments by law enforcement to be premature. I do not think for a moment that the Rizzuto clan will accept him. Too much blood as been spilled, the sons of Sollecito,Cun-trera, Spagnolo,Rizzuto are still in play wanting to avenge their fathers deaths.Even if they do accept, it will only be temporary. What Mirarchi has got going for him are his connections with the Ontario Calabrians. I could also see some of the rival gangs unite behind him if he chooses to assume the position. It will also depend which sides the Hells will choose.
One thing for sure, whoever assumes the throne will be a marked man.


Agreed yet again. I think he has as much change of becoming the next godfather as Leonardo Rizzuto. He has too many enemies to be unanimously accepted as the supreme leader. It isn't even that long ago that there were reports stating that there wouldn't be another godfather and that the clans opposing the Rizzuto group wanted a horizontal structure. This article won't help much either. It's better to rise to the top silently. Perhaps a tactic applied by the police to stirr things up?

Speaking of which, during the Charbonneau hearings the RCMP stated that Le Clan Calabrais was in power. Then a year later Rizzuto came home and all of a sudden he was back on top again..


RCMP Corp. Linda Féquière made that statement on September 25, 2012 about the "Calabrian" clan (you know, the one led by Raynald Desjardins from Catanzaro). Rizzuto was released 10 days later on October 5. Di Maulo was killed November 4.

But, yes, I think that it would be safe to say that Rizzuto took about a year to perhaps gain back a bit of power that he once held and to feel comfortable being seen in certain places and travelling to them--he even visited York Region, the GTA Siderno Group's base, when he attended the wedding of Frank Campoli's daughter Jeanette on Saturday, September 14, 2013.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/13/17 03:16 PM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: Ciment
The article mentions:

"According to police circles, Vittorio Mirarchi having gotten his freedom yesterday, is predicted to be the next godfather of the Montreal mafia."

I just find the comments by law enforcement to be premature. I do not think for a moment that the Rizzuto clan will accept him. Too much blood as been spilled, the sons of Sollecito,Cun-trera, Spagnolo,Rizzuto are still in play wanting to avenge their fathers deaths.Even if they do accept, it will only be temporary. What Mirarchi has got going for him are his connections with the Ontario Calabrians. I could also see some of the rival gangs unite behind him if he chooses to assume the position. It will also depend which sides the Hells will choose.
One thing for sure, whoever assumes the throne will be a marked man.


Agreed yet again. I think he has as much change of becoming the next godfather as Leonardo Rizzuto. He has too many enemies to be unanimously accepted as the supreme leader. It isn't even that long ago that there were reports stating that there wouldn't be another godfather and that the clans opposing the Rizzuto group wanted a horizontal structure. This article won't help much either. It's better to rise to the top silently. Perhaps a tactic applied by the police to stirr things up?

Speaking of which, during the Charbonneau hearings the RCMP stated that Le Clan Calabrais was in power. Then a year later Rizzuto came home and all of a sudden he was back on top again..


RCMP Corp. Linda Féquière made that statement on September 25, 2012 about the "Calabrian" clan (you know, the one led by Raynald Desjardins from Catanzaro). Rizzuto was released 10 days later on October 5. Di Maulo was killed November 4.

But, yes, I think that it would be safe to say that Rizzuto took about a year to perhaps gain back a bit of power that he once held and to feel comfortable being seen in certain places and travelling to them--he even visited York Region, the GTA Siderno Group's base, when he attended the wedding of Frank Campoli's daughter Jeanette on Saturday, September 14, 2013.


Yeah, I was mixing 2013 up with 2012. But this timeline makes their statement even more ironic. If Le Clan Calabrais was really in power then there was remarkably little opposition. Di Maulo killed as a sitting duck with no retribution. Then in January or February 2013 (your impeccable memory will correct me I'm sure) Rizzuto was seen out in the open with no bodyguards at Montreal airport and approachable by journalists. A fairly clear sign that at that stage he had regained a bit of power and felt comfortable traveling without security.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/13/17 07:53 PM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: Ciment
The article mentions:

"According to police circles, Vittorio Mirarchi having gotten his freedom yesterday, is predicted to be the next godfather of the Montreal mafia."

I just find the comments by law enforcement to be premature. I do not think for a moment that the Rizzuto clan will accept him. Too much blood as been spilled, the sons of Sollecito,Cun-trera, Spagnolo,Rizzuto are still in play wanting to avenge their fathers deaths.Even if they do accept, it will only be temporary. What Mirarchi has got going for him are his connections with the Ontario Calabrians. I could also see some of the rival gangs unite behind him if he chooses to assume the position. It will also depend which sides the Hells will choose.
One thing for sure, whoever assumes the throne will be a marked man.


Agreed yet again. I think he has as much change of becoming the next godfather as Leonardo Rizzuto. He has too many enemies to be unanimously accepted as the supreme leader. It isn't even that long ago that there were reports stating that there wouldn't be another godfather and that the clans opposing the Rizzuto group wanted a horizontal structure. This article won't help much either. It's better to rise to the top silently. Perhaps a tactic applied by the police to stirr things up?

Speaking of which, during the Charbonneau hearings the RCMP stated that Le Clan Calabrais was in power. Then a year later Rizzuto came home and all of a sudden he was back on top again..


LINDA FÉQUIÈRE statement made at the Charboneau Inquiry, tranlated to English:

Q.Who are now the actors of the COTI(LE CRIME ORGANISÉ TRADITIONNEL ITALIEN) in Quebec, following Project Colisée ?
  A. I will answer very briefly because those
  people are currently being investigated. But
  it will suffice to say that it is mostly people who
  belong to a faction of the Calabrian wing of the
  Italian organized crime. I'm not trying to
  to say that the Sicilian faction is completely
  disappeared, however there is a return of the organized crime
  of Calabrian origin that followed the arrest and extradition of Mr. Vito Rizzuto.

I believe that was the statement that was given at the Charboneau inquiry and it seems to be accurate. The pendulum was swinging in favor of the Calabrian clan especially when high level members from the Sicilian clan were being killed. When Rizzuto was released from jail the pendulum started swinging in the opposite direction in favor of the Sicilian clan.
It possible that the media twisted her words around to increase ratings.I don't recall if she made other remarks, I would have to read all her testimony.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/13/17 08:27 PM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: antimafia
Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: Ciment
The article mentions:

"According to police circles, Vittorio Mirarchi having gotten his freedom yesterday, is predicted to be the next godfather of the Montreal mafia."

I just find the comments by law enforcement to be premature. I do not think for a moment that the Rizzuto clan will accept him. Too much blood as been spilled, the sons of Sollecito,Cun-trera, Spagnolo,Rizzuto are still in play wanting to avenge their fathers deaths.Even if they do accept, it will only be temporary. What Mirarchi has got going for him are his connections with the Ontario Calabrians. I could also see some of the rival gangs unite behind him if he chooses to assume the position. It will also depend which sides the Hells will choose.
One thing for sure, whoever assumes the throne will be a marked man.


Agreed yet again. I think he has as much change of becoming the next godfather as Leonardo Rizzuto. He has too many enemies to be unanimously accepted as the supreme leader. It isn't even that long ago that there were reports stating that there wouldn't be another godfather and that the clans opposing the Rizzuto group wanted a horizontal structure. This article won't help much either. It's better to rise to the top silently. Perhaps a tactic applied by the police to stirr things up?

Speaking of which, during the Charbonneau hearings the RCMP stated that Le Clan Calabrais was in power. Then a year later Rizzuto came home and all of a sudden he was back on top again..


RCMP Corp. Linda Féquière made that statement on September 25, 2012 about the "Calabrian" clan (you know, the one led by Raynald Desjardins from Catanzaro). Rizzuto was released 10 days later on October 5. Di Maulo was killed November 4.

But, yes, I think that it would be safe to say that Rizzuto took about a year to perhaps gain back a bit of power that he once held and to feel comfortable being seen in certain places and travelling to them--he even visited York Region, the GTA Siderno Group's base, when he attended the wedding of Frank Campoli's daughter Jeanette on Saturday, September 14, 2013.


Yeah, I was mixing 2013 up with 2012. But this timeline makes their statement even more ironic. If Le Clan Calabrais was really in power then there was remarkably little opposition. Di Maulo killed as a sitting duck with no retribution. Then in January or February 2013 (your impeccable memory will correct me I'm sure) Rizzuto was seen out in the open with no bodyguards at Montreal airport and approachable by journalists. A fairly clear sign that at that stage he had regained a bit of power and felt comfortable traveling without security.


http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...-a-montreal.php

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2013/09...-a-vito-rizzuto

In the above article they mention that Vito bought a bullet proof vehicle.
Then they set fire to the place where he plays golf(article above).
I doubt that he was traveling without security.
I thing the journalist thing may have been planned(PR) to show he is now in charge.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/13/17 08:38 PM

Originally Posted By: antimafia


http://osservatoriomediterraneosullamafia.blogspot.ca/2017/11/report-2017-fondazione-antonino.html

REPORT 2017
FONDAZIONE ANTONINO CAPONNETTO
LA GUERRA DI MAFIA
ITALO-CANADESE

A cura di

Salvatore Calleri
Giuseppe Lumia
Simona Trombetta


I'm now reading it, even with the few errors good stuff.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/13/17 08:42 PM

It's interesting the report says the Hells Angels started the feud inside the Rizzuto clan.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/13/17 09:13 PM

https://twitter.com/IsabelleRicher

There was an interview with Cedilot,author of Murder Inc., about Vittorio Mirarchi. It kind of confirms most of the things we have been saying. They say he has strong connections with Ottawa, Toronto and Hamilton organized crime.
The author goes on saying that he was relatively unknown until his name started to appear in the early 2000's along with Desjardins & Mirarchi developed close ties with the Hells Angels. Back then he was considered to be a wealthy person. Cedilot echoed what police circles have been say about him being the next Mafia boss.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/13/17 10:27 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
https://twitter.com/IsabelleRicher

There was an interview with Cedilot,author of Murder Inc., about Vittorio Mirarchi. It kind of confirms most of the things we have been saying. They say he has strong connections with Ottawa, Toronto and Hamilton organized crime.
The author goes on saying that he was relatively unknown until his name started to appear in the early 2000's along with Desjardins & Mirarchi developed close ties with the Hells Angels. Back then he was considered to be a wealthy person. Cedilot echoed what police circles have been say about him being the next Mafia boss.


Probably right after his father Antonio Mirarchi died and Raynald became his second dad.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/13/17 10:30 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
https://twitter.com/IsabelleRicher

There was an interview with Cedilot,author of Murder Inc.,


Mafia Inc. tongue

Although Murder Inc. would've been a proper name for the book as well. lol
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/13/17 10:38 PM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: Ciment
https://twitter.com/IsabelleRicher

There was an interview with Cedilot,author of Murder Inc.,


Mafia Inc. tongue

Although Murder Inc. would've been a proper name for the book as well. lol


I now know why I typed Murder in instead of Mafia it's because I just bought a book Murderinc by Martin Short, it could also be old age too! LOL
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/13/17 10:56 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: Ciment
https://twitter.com/IsabelleRicher

There was an interview with Cedilot,author of Murder Inc.,


Mafia Inc. tongue

Although Murder Inc. would've been a proper name for the book as well. lol


I now know why I typed Murder in instead of Mafia it's because I just bought a book Murderinc by Martin Short, it could also be old age too! LOL


I also got lucky this week, I walked in a store where they sell used books and found a book "Malapianta" signed by the author Antonio Nicaso. It's in Italian and in excellent condition.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/14/17 10:25 AM

BTW his father also had close contacts with the 81.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/14/17 11:45 AM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...dominicaine.php

Dec.14,2017
MEXICO AND THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC
THE HELLS PERSONA NON GRATA
DANIEL RENAUD
THE PRESS
If Quebec Hells Angels have planned to spend the holidays in the South and have already bought their plane tickets, they could have a bad surprise. It seems that Mexico and the Dominican Republic do not want our bikers anymore.

The press has learned from various sources that for a little over a year, a dozen individuals, members of the Hells Angels, ex-members or relations of this group of bikers, were turned back on their arrival at an airport in Mexico or the Dominican Republic. The trend seems to have intensified in recent weeks, according to our information.

"Some guys came to Mexico, some with their family or their spouse, for a vacation, and they were told to go back home because they were linked to organized crime," said a source from the judiciary.

Another informant told us that in addition to the individuals who were turned back, at least one other man, the Hells Angels' relationship, was interrogated and searched for a long time before the Mexican authorities finally accepted his presence on their territory.

HUBS FOR IMPORTING COCAINE


Mexico and the Dominican Republic - where the Hells Angels have a section in Santo Domingo with former Quebec members - are countries considered to be hubs for the importation of cocaine into Canada, and the pretensions Canadian authorities are that the Quebec Hells Angels meet or meet with each other and conduct business when they visit these countries, even with relatives.

Some rumors want the Mexican authorities to have a list of Quebec bikers who would be consulted at the customs posts.

Local police officers, however, told La Presse , on condition of anonymity, that Canadian authorities would never dare to provide such a list because of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms and the risk of prosecution.

Rather, they believe that the information obtained by Mexican customs officials could come from Interpol, an international organization that brings together police forces from 192 countries, including Canada, through which they help each other and exchange information.

"The truth is that Mexico and the Dominican Republic do not want our bikers anymore. They are already fed up with their organized crime. It is their police force that calls ours to get information, "we were told yesterday.

"I confirm that we have excellent cooperation with the authorities of these countries, but the refoulement of some Quebec bikers on their arrival there, this decision belongs to the local authorities," said the Inspector Guy Lapointe, the Sûreté du Québec, which has the mandate to fight against criminal bikers in the province.

"A PREROGATIVE OF IMMIGRATION OFFICERS"

Joined by La Presse , an employee of the Mexican Consulate in Montreal, Zoila Sanchez, did not want to comment directly on the situation.

"Any decision on entry into the country issued by an immigration officer shall be made by assessing the specific case and on the basis of respect or non-compliance with the migratory provisions the limits of which are laid down in the Constitution, the Treaties and the international agreements of which the Mexican State is a part, the Immigration Act and applicable general legal provisions. As in most countries, the knowledge, resolution and enforcement of expulsion or assisted return of foreigners, under the terms and conditions established in the law, [are] a prerogative of immigration officers, in the the case of Mexico, the National Institute of Immigration ", she wrote to us by e-mail.

Sources told La Presse that links have been somewhat tighter in recent years between Canadian police forces and those in Mexico and several Central and South American countries. Regularly, the authorities of these countries even monitor the whereabouts of Canadian criminals and give information to the Canadian authorities.

In addition to the Hells Angels section in the Dominican Republic, Quebec bikers would have been instrumental in the recent creation of another section of the Hells Angels in Quito, Ecuador, according to Quebec police.

If, after the end of the Sharqc procedures and the return of the Hells Angels in Quebec, the police here hoped for a way to hurt the bikers, the shot seems to carry. Some information suggests that the Hells Angels do not like to be forced back into countries they have traditionally visited. If the refusals become systematic, they will have to migrate to other seaside resorts.

To contact Daniel Renaud, call 514 285-7000, ext. 4918, write to drenaud@lapresse.ca or write to La Presse's mailing address .

Bikers who have been driven back abroad

Christian Ménard , HA Montreal (Sherbrooke), Mexico November 2016

Roch Delaney , HA South, Dominican Republic December 2016

Eric Bouffard , HA South, Dominican Republic December 2016

Stéphane Maheu , HA South, Dominican Republic March 2017

Dean Moore , HA South, Mexico March 2017

Mario Brouillette , former member of Trois-Rivières, Mexico August 2017

Jean-Judes Faucher , HA Quebec, Mexico November 2017

Bernard Plourde , HA Trois-Rivières November 2017
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/14/17 12:32 PM

One of the highest ranked Angels in the world is the Nomad Wolf Carroll 16 years on the run and wanted by Interpol.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/14/17 06:01 PM

Before seeing any names you recognize, you'll have to read toward the end of the translation for the French-language article to which I've linked below.

La Ville de Montréal redoute un gâchis environnemental

http://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2017/12/14/la-ville-de-montreal-redoute-un-gachis-environnemental-1
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/14/17 06:27 PM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
Before seeing any names you recognize, you'll have to read toward the end of the translation for the French-language article to which I've linked below.

La Ville de Montréal redoute un gâchis environnemental

http://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2017/12/14/la-ville-de-montreal-redoute-un-gachis-environnemental-1


So it seems the first attempt on Callocchia came from the Desjardins group while he was ultimately killed by the Sicilians.
Posted By: thebigfella

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/15/17 08:51 PM

So who really killed Giordano? Who tried to kill del baso? Who is the arcade faction loyal to? Can anyone post the current structure of the rizzutos family to the best of your knowledge?
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/16/17 11:29 AM

Any idea who he is?

Mirarchi has close ties to Calabrian groups in Ontario, including one Toronto-area businessman who was on the alleged Rizzuto clan’s hit list in the 1990s.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/16/17 03:56 PM

Originally Posted By: Hollander
Any idea who he is?

Mirarchi has close ties to Calabrian groups in Ontario, including one Toronto-area businessman who was on the alleged Rizzuto clan’s hit list in the 1990s.


From which article, book, blog, etc. are you quoting? The decade--1990s--doesn't sound right, especially because the Commissos in the GTA helped the Montreal Mafia expand in Ontario in the late 1990s.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/16/17 04:14 PM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
Originally Posted By: Hollander
Any idea who he is?

Mirarchi has close ties to Calabrian groups in Ontario, including one Toronto-area businessman who was on the alleged Rizzuto clan’s hit list in the 1990s.


From which article, book, blog, etc. are you quoting? The decade--1990s--doesn't sound right, especially because the Commissos in the GTA helped the Montreal Mafia expand in Ontario in the late 1990s.


http://torontosun.com/2012/08/05/mob-chi...8f-338b36a1935f
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/16/17 04:45 PM

Originally Posted By: Hollander
Originally Posted By: antimafia
Originally Posted By: Hollander
Any idea who he is?

Mirarchi has close ties to Calabrian groups in Ontario, including one Toronto-area businessman who was on the alleged Rizzuto clan’s hit list in the 1990s.


From which article, book, blog, etc. are you quoting? The decade--1990s--doesn't sound right, especially because the Commissos in the GTA helped the Montreal Mafia expand in Ontario in the late 1990s.


http://torontosun.com/2012/08/05/mob-chi...8f-338b36a1935f


I think the key words are "alleged" and "hit list"; "alleged" might be understood by some as referring to an alleged Rizzuto clan, but that would be a misreading.

Lamberti and some others--reporters, organized-crime authors--strongly believe that the Montreal Mafia leadership (maybe Vito Rizzuto alone?) felt that the best way to expand into Ontario in the 1990s was to arrange to have Ontario-based made members of the Buffalo Family murdered. I don't subscribe to that theory, which purports to explain why Enio Mora, Johnny Papalia, and Carm Barillaro were murdered in succession between September 1996 and July 1997.

I am especially skeptical of the following account in Mafia inc:

In the 1990s, [Enio] Mora borrowed $7.2 million from Vito Rizzuto and gave the bulk of the money to [John] Papalia and Carmen Barillaro. Johnny Pops used the funds to open an upscale restaurant on Avenue Road in Toronto and a similarly posh nightclub in the city’s west end. The rest of the money disappeared. The Rizzuto clan demanded to be repaid but got nowhere. “They can’t touch us,” Barillaro boasted. That was a mistake.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/16/17 05:02 PM

^^^^
There is another way to interpret that sentence from Lamberti's article. The article earlier states the following:

Initially, Rizzuto’s move into Ontario was marked with the murders of Carmen Barillaro and Johnny “Pops” Papalia in 1997.

Police also know there was a hit list that wasn’t completed. The list included a number of other GTA and Niagara area Calabrian mobsters, particularly four related to three Violi brothers who were killed between 1976 and 1980 during the Rizzuto family’s rise to power in Montreal.

-------------

The Toronto-area businessman could be a reference to Rocco Remo Commisso, as Ken Murdock claims to have warned Remo that the latter was on Pat Musitano's hit list. Compare this claim with the following information from The Sixth Family (2014 edition, p. 320):

Vito [Rizzuto] searched for a strong group with an impeccable pedigree with whom to forge an alliance with in Ontario. Shunning the Sixth Family's traditional fondness for keeping their affairs closely Sicilian, he found the perfect coupling in the Commisso family. Based around three brothers, Cosimo, Rocco Remo, and Michele, the Commissos had immigrated to Toronto from Calabria in 1961 and were about as street strong in Toronto as any mob clan could expect. The stage seemed set for the Sixth Family to make its move.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/16/17 06:06 PM

Good stuff antimafia! It seems to me Antonio Mirarchi had the connections before his son came up under Desjardins.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/16/17 07:00 PM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
In the 1990s, [Enio] Mora borrowed $7.2 million from Vito Rizzuto and gave the bulk of the money to [John] Papalia and Carmen Barillaro. Johnny Pops used the funds to open an upscale restaurant on Avenue Road in Toronto and a similarly posh nightclub in the city’s west end. The rest of the money disappeared. The Rizzuto clan demanded to be repaid but got nowhere. “They can’t touch us,” Barillaro boasted. That was a mistake.


Call them dumb or stupid but that took some balls.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/16/17 07:16 PM

Originally Posted By: Hollander
Good stuff antimafia! It seems to me Antonio Mirarchi had the connections before his son came up under Desjardins.


There is nothing remarkable about Italian mobsters in Quebec and Ontario having connections to one another.

I might have missed the sources that state Antonio Mirarchi had ties to Calabrian crime groups or Calabrian organized-crime figures in Ontario -- I recall reading only that he had ties to the Hells in Quebec, as well as to Desjardins of course. Given that Vittorio has strong ties to individuals in Ottawa -- maybe even the Siderno Group 'ndrina in that city -- I will assume his father did too because of the proximity of the two cities. I am merely guessing that, despite Vittorio's younger age, his network of contacts is more extensive than his father's ever was.

One day, I hope there will be solid intelligence revealed about the supposed 2011 meeting in Quebec between people from Ontario and people in the Montreal area during which the former were angry or upset and abruptly left -- one thread this was discussed will be found here: http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/ubbthr...true#Post625058.

If anyone can jog my memory about which article mentioned the meeting -- I think only one article did, one in French -- I would be very appreciative. Thanks.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/16/17 07:17 PM

Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
Originally Posted By: antimafia
In the 1990s, [Enio] Mora borrowed $7.2 million from Vito Rizzuto and gave the bulk of the money to [John] Papalia and Carmen Barillaro. Johnny Pops used the funds to open an upscale restaurant on Avenue Road in Toronto and a similarly posh nightclub in the city’s west end. The rest of the money disappeared. The Rizzuto clan demanded to be repaid but got nowhere. “They can’t touch us,” Barillaro boasted. That was a mistake.


Call them dumb or stupid but that took some balls.


If it happened, dix. If it happened. :-)
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/17/17 12:09 AM

Mirarchi hails from Isca sullo Ionio in Catanzaro.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/17/17 11:42 AM

Is the Montreal mafia on the verge of another shakeup with release of Vittorio Mirarchi

http://aboutthemafia.com/is-the-montreal...ttorio-mirarchi
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/17/17 12:01 PM

I usually leave this to you guys, you know all the players, but if this guy is a Cocaine importer, PAY ATTENTION TO HIM, he will have power if he still has those contacts, someone will probably court him before they kill him.


Suppliers, importers, guys that control distribution. These people will always have power in syndicates based around narcotics trafficking.

I'm watching this guy closely...
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/17/17 12:14 PM

To kill him is the only way, because in Canada sentences are pretty soft even Mom Boucher is eligible for parole in 10 years. I also think they still have major influence in the unions.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/17/17 10:51 PM

Cabrini, thing is more than one person is pushing drugs into Montreal. He is not the only one. He'll definitely be welcomed by the Desjardins side, but the Rizzuto's will more than likely be after him.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/17/17 11:46 PM

Originally Posted By: thebigfella
So who really killed Giordano? Who tried to kill del baso? Who is the arcade faction loyal to? Can anyone post the current structure of the rizzutos family to the best of your knowledge?


Giordano(Killed),DelBalso and Arcadi are with the Rizzuto's.

According to news sources, allegedly some of the clans or cells opposing the Rizzuto's are Mirarchi/Desjardins, the Silvano brothers,the Bastone brothers, Devito(dead)/Succapane clan and possibily the Scoppa brothers.
You also had Sal Montagna(killed)/Arcuri brothers at one point.
Some of these groups may have the backing of the Toronto & Hamilton Ndrangheta.
The Silvano brothers took over the D'amico territory Granby/Lachine/Ottawa,they also tried to take control of the cocaine distribution in the Maritimes,a section of Montreal and Ontario.
Posted By: The_Rooster

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/17/17 11:51 PM

Does anyone know if Nick Nero was made and into what family?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/18/17 12:27 AM

Originally Posted By: The_Rooster
Does anyone know if Nick Nero was made and into what family?


One news article I read refers to him as a gang boss. He has ties to Amero a BC Hells Angel. Also has ties to Martino Caputo, who has ties to Libori Cun-trera. So I would put him on the Rizzuto side. Also has ties to the Irish west end Gang Montreal and street gangs.
Posted By: The_Rooster

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/18/17 12:36 AM

Interesting, hes from Niagara Falls right? Plus smuggling from NY borders. Would figure him to be with Hamilton/Toronto

So Caputo was a rep for Rizzutos in Toronto?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/18/17 01:30 AM

Originally Posted By: The_Rooster
Interesting, hes from Niagara Falls right? Plus smuggling from NY borders. Would figure him to be with Hamilton/Toronto

So Caputo was a rep for Rizzutos in Toronto?


http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...roject-clemenza

If you look at the news article arrests were made in three stages.
At the bottom of the article they lump people from opposing camps all together. I tried to find out who is in what camp and I remember one article mentioning Caputo getting arrested with Liborio. Let me find that article to be double sure I will get back to you.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/18/17 01:47 AM

Originally Posted By: The_Rooster
Interesting, hes from Niagara Falls right? Plus smuggling from NY borders. Would figure him to be with Hamilton/Toronto

So Caputo was a rep for Rizzutos in Toronto?



Here is the article. I am assuming they are all from the same drug ring.

https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/rcmp-s-project-clemenza-breaks-up-cocaine-trafficking-ring-1.2897241
Posted By: The_Rooster

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/18/17 01:48 AM

Good read. Charges stayed means dismissed or a holding pattern? (If you know)

Canada has such a lenient and forgiving justice system, hard for us in the States to even comprehend.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/18/17 01:54 AM

Originally Posted By: The_Rooster
Good read. Charges stayed means dismissed or a holding pattern? (If you know)

Canada has such a lenient and forgiving justice system, hard for us in the States to even comprehend.


I agree, it is like a revolving door.
Posted By: pmac

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/18/17 03:17 AM

This thread should be finalized. This shit aint a mob war anymore its drug gangs and bikers and all types of shit except organized crime rite?
Posted By: thebigfella

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/18/17 05:08 PM

I read an article that said the reason why the violence has slowed is because the rizzutos have new leaders but he wouldn't divulge name, any idea who this might be?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/18/17 05:59 PM

Originally Posted By: thebigfella
I read an article that said the reason why the violence has slowed is because the rizzutos have new leaders but he wouldn't divulge name, any idea who this might be?


Whether or not there are news leaders is just speculation for now, a slow down in violence is nothing new.It has happened a few times before. I can't see a permanent cease fire because there are many who sit at the decision table of the Rizzuto clan that have lost a parent or a relative from this warring.
Was this a recent article ?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/19/17 07:33 PM

According to @IsabelleRicher of Radio-Canada, the mafioso Francesco Del Balso made a request to the superior court to get out of prison. But the Court rejected his request. Del Balso is returned to prison because of a breach of condition earlier this year.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/19/17 07:47 PM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/12/19/le-mafioso-del-balso-deboute-en-cour-superieure

Mafioso Del Balso request dismissed in Superior Court

Here is a related English article on his breach of his realease:

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...ting-his-family
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/20/17 01:07 AM

https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/zm3y4...he-hells-angels

How Canada’s Most Prolific Hit Man Turned Informant on the Hells Angels
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/20/17 02:16 AM

Mafia montréalaise: un présumé garde du corps condamné à 28 mois

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...e-a-28-mois.php
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/20/17 04:09 AM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
Mafia montréalaise: un présumé garde du corps condamné à 28 mois

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...e-a-28-mois.php


Will see how long this truce will last.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/22/17 05:00 PM

Catalano any relation to Toto Catalano?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/22/17 08:47 PM

Originally Posted By: Hollander
Catalano any relation to Toto Catalano?


I don't think so, all I know he is one of the guys who was involved in the kidnapping of Nino De Bartolomeis.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/26/17 11:27 AM

Fires in Montreal: the number of victims on the rise

As of December 25, criminal fire investigators had opened about 820 cases this year, compared with 572 for the same period in 2016. Of the approximately 820 fires this year, about 500 are considered criminal or suspicious.

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...a-la-hausse.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/27/17 12:42 PM

Meurtres de 2017: beaucoup de crimes non résolus et plus d'enquêtes

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...s-denquetes.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/29/17 05:36 PM

A survey of Quebec's organized-crime landscape. Mention is made of the Montreal Mafia.

Sous l’emprise des Hells Angels

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/12/29/sous-lemprise-des-hells-angels
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/30/17 12:19 PM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
A survey of Quebec's organized-crime landscape. Mention is made of the Montreal Mafia.

Sous l’emprise des Hells Angels

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/12/29/sous-lemprise-des-hells-angels


Most of the filthy few are also nomads.
Posted By: Wilson101

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/02/18 06:18 AM

Canada.... Bang bang son
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/02/18 06:45 AM

Originally Posted By: VegasMikey
Canada.... Bang bang son


They’re not playing around North of the border Mikey.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/02/18 08:48 PM

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...g-in-california

Fraudulent telemarketers from Montreal face sentencing in California
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/03/18 12:02 AM

The holidays were so unremarkable you'd think the war is over.

I think there's a truce at best. I expect scores will still be settled at some point.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/03/18 12:33 AM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
The holidays were so unremarkable you'd think the war is over.

I think there's a truce at best. I expect scores will still be settled at some point.


And where there is big business there will be new feuds.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/03/18 04:59 PM

I was reading an old article from 2011, which claimed former federal MP and cabinet minister Alfonso Gagliano is a made man. Any truth in this?
Posted By: miklo

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/03/18 07:05 PM

Someone would have the new family chart operating in Montreal Family Rizzuto, Clan Ndrangheta etc.
https://www.opensourceinvestigations.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Rizzuto_Crime_Family_2015.jpg
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/04/18 02:42 AM

Originally Posted By: miklo
Someone would have the new family chart operating in Montreal Family Rizzuto, Clan Ndrangheta etc.
https://www.opensourceinvestigations.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Rizzuto_Crime_Family_2015.jpg


Not bad, but there are more guys.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/04/18 03:39 AM

I also miss Marco Pizzi and a lot of the Arcadi crew.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/04/18 02:17 PM

Originally Posted By: Hollander
I also miss Marco Pizzi and a lot of the Arcadi crew.


We should nickname Marco Pizzi "Houdini", for his skill of avoiding being killed.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/04/18 06:19 PM

Originally Posted By: miklo
Someone would have the new family chart operating in Montreal Family Rizzuto, Clan Ndrangheta etc.
https://www.opensourceinvestigations.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Rizzuto_Crime_Family_2015.jpg


That chart is rubbish. People don't know what to make of it and just let their imagination run wild.

Someone just needs to break in the RCMP headquarters and steal a real chart...
Posted By: Stubbs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/05/18 04:09 PM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: miklo
Someone would have the new family chart operating in Montreal Family Rizzuto, Clan Ndrangheta etc.
https://www.opensourceinvestigations.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Rizzuto_Crime_Family_2015.jpg


That chart is rubbish. People don't know what to make of it and just let their imagination run wild.

Someone just needs to break in the RCMP headquarters and steal a real chart...


Yeah, at least three people on it have since been killed
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/07/18 01:17 PM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/01/07/coups-de-feu-dans-un-bar-de-danseuses-de-longueuil

Shots fired in a Longueuil strip joint.

LONGUEUIL - Shots were fired at a dancer's bar in Longueuil on the night of Saturday to Sunday, injuring two people.
According to preliminary reports, the shots were fired at around 2:45 am at Cabaret Doric, located on Taschereau Boulevard.

A man in his thirties and a woman in his forties were reported to have been hit by projectiles. The two victims were transported to a hospital on the South Shore of Montreal. We do not fear for their lives.

"The suspect or suspects fled before the arrival of the police, who evacuated the place and erected a crime scene," said Marie Beauvais, spokesman for the Police Department of the agglomeration of Longueuil.

An investigation was initiated to determine the circumstances surrounding this event.
Posted By: miklo

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/07/18 01:52 PM

In which clan is Vittorio Mirarchi?

And in which clan are the Scoppa brothers?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/07/18 02:19 PM

Originally Posted By: miklo
In which clan is Vittorio Mirarchi?

And in which clan are the Scoppa brothers?



The Scoppa's originated from the Cotroni clan.
Mirarchi is an associate of Raynald Desjardins who is brother-in-law to Joe DiMaulo also from the Cotroni clan. Mirarchi has contacts with the Ontario Calabrians. DiMaulo's daughter was married Frank Cotroni Jr.
Posted By: miklo

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/07/18 02:44 PM

The Cotroni family is deceased since 2004 it is apparently under control Bonanno is it possible knowing that Vittorio Mirarchi and the Scoppa brothers who are Calabrian can not they ally rather to clans of the Ndrangheta already on the spot
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/07/18 03:28 PM

Originally Posted By: miklo
The Cotroni family is deceased since 2004 it is apparently under control Bonanno is it possible knowing that Vittorio Mirarchi and the Scoppa brothers who are Calabrian can not they ally rather to clans of the Ndrangheta already on the spot



The reigns of the Cotroni clan passed on to the Rizzuto's but the Cotroni clan was never deceased or dismantled.They kept their identity and are alive and well today. What happened after Rizzuto's arrest was that alliances were being formed with other clans. Some remained loyal to Rizzuto family and others were intent on overpowering the Rizzuto's.This is what makes it confusing in creating an organizational chart.Allegiances were being made and some members defected from one clan to join others.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/07/18 04:18 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: miklo
The Cotroni family is deceased since 2004 it is apparently under control Bonanno is it possible knowing that Vittorio Mirarchi and the Scoppa brothers who are Calabrian can not they ally rather to clans of the Ndrangheta already on the spot



The reigns of the Cotroni clan passed on to the Rizzuto's but the Cotroni clan was never deceased or dismantled.They kept their identity and are alive and well today. What happened after Rizzuto's arrest was that alliances were being formed with other clans. Some remained loyal to Rizzuto family and others were intent on overpowering the Rizzuto's.This is what makes it confusing in creating an organizational chart.Allegiances were being made and some members defected from one clan to join others.


Good point, nowadays the traditional mob family is outdated, organised crime is more like a network.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/08/18 01:47 AM

Shooting at a strip joint? Yea, a Scoppa is probably involved lol
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/08/18 02:01 AM

Jimmy Di Maulo is one of the top guys of the Cotronis, well connected.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/09/18 10:46 PM

Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...g-in-california

Fraudulent telemarketers from Montreal face sentencing in California


California prosecutor seeks 18-month prison term for Montreal telemarketer

http://montrealgazette.com/news/californ...l-telemarketer/
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/12/18 12:30 PM

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...ase-he-violated

Notorious Quebec gangster to appear before parole board Friday
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/12/18 07:15 PM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/01/11/incendie-criminel-dans-un-cafe-libanais

Looks like maybe things are starting to heat up again.

QMI AGENCY
Thursday, 11 January 2018 08:36
Update Thursday, 11 January 2018 08:39
A fire erupted in a Lebanese café on boulevard de l'Acadie in the borough of Ahuntsic-Cartierville, Montreal, early Thursday morning.

At approximately 5:15 am, the emergency services received a call that three individuals had smashed the window of Ezo D Restaurant with an iron bar near Mazurette Street, Benoit Boiselle reported. - Police Department of the City of Montreal (SPVM).

The suspects then threw a can of burning gasoline inside the store. The coffee, however, suffered only slight damage, according to police officers, as the sprinklers went off.


The investigation was transferred to the investigators of the SPVM's Criminal Fire Section. No arrest has been made yet.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/14/18 11:18 PM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
The holidays were so unremarkable you'd think the war is over.

I think there's a truce at best. I expect scores will still be settled at some point.


It's also extreme cold in Montreal this winter, many are probably in warmer sunny places.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/15/18 10:25 PM

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...ear-prison-term

Man linked to Hells Angels affiliate gang gets two-year prison term
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/15/18 11:09 PM

Originally Posted By: Hollander
Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
The holidays were so unremarkable you'd think the war is over.

I think there's a truce at best. I expect scores will still be settled at some point.


It's also extreme cold in Montreal this winter, many are probably in warmer sunny places.


Yeah, like Moreno Gallo or Fernandez. tongue
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/17/18 10:48 PM

Originally Posted By: antimafia
Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...g-in-california

Fraudulent telemarketers from Montreal face sentencing in California


California prosecutor seeks 18-month prison term for Montreal telemarketer

http://montrealgazette.com/news/californ...l-telemarketer/


Montrealer gets 15-month prison term in U.S. for telemarketing fraud

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...arketing-fraud/
Posted By: vito_andolini

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/18/18 12:29 PM

Chit may be released within 60 days, according to this local article (french only). Summarizes his past connection with the Rizzuto's, and the infamous home invasion from May of last year that put him back behind bars.

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...o-del-balso.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/18/18 02:50 PM

One of Jos Di Maulo's daughters, Milena, will be interviewed on a French-language TV program this Sunday, January 21, 8:30 pm EST. Here's a link to a French-language article about the upcoming interview:

http://quebec.huffingtonpost.ca/2018/01/...fia_a_23336260/

Below is a link to the TV program's webpage.

http://tva.canoe.ca/emissions/conversation-secrete/episodes

I think some of you are aware that a book about Milena Di Maulo will be published shortly -- here's a link to the publisher's page:

http://www.editions-homme.com/milena-di-maulo-fille-femme-mafiosi/maria-mourani/livre/9782761948098

Edit: I was mistaken in writing that Milena Di Maulo has a book coming out -- it is actually written by Maria Mourani, a former federal Member of Parliament (M.P.) from Quebec who is a well-known expert about street gangs and is also quite knowledgeable about the Italian mafia in Quebec.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/18/18 05:26 PM

I wonder if they'll have an English version?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/18/18 10:34 PM


I think she is wise enough not to reveal anything important like exposing mafia secrets but she can give us more insight into the inner lives of some of these mobsters. I look forward in reading the book.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/19/18 01:54 AM

Originally Posted By: Ciment

I think she is wise enough not to reveal anything important like exposing mafia secrets but she can give us more insight into the inner lives of some of these mobsters. I look forward in reading the book.


After Frank Cotroni died there is very little known about the Calabrian faction. Her father was an interesting guy, looks like her uncle gave his OK for the book.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/19/18 02:01 PM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/01...e-pot-quebecois

A criminal gang inundated the United States with Quebec pot


ÉRIC THIBAULT
Update Friday, 19 January 2018 01:00
A Montrealer who would have helped a daring network of smugglers to export for $ 1 billion in Quebec pot will have to go to court in the United States.

Leslie Grant just learned that the Supreme Court's Jordan decision to reduce judicial time in Canada "can not be applied in the context of an extradition request" like the one he's been doing. object since his arrest in 2014.

In making this decision last week, Judge Guy Cournoyer ordered the incarceration of the 38-year-old man until he was escorted to Albany, New York, where he risked 20 years of jail.



"Iron strainer"

Grant, who lived in Pierrefonds, was one of the last targets of the DEA (Iron Enforcement Administration) "Iron Curtain" operation, which led some fifteen Quebeckers to the American courts.


They were all accused of transporting drugs or money to a criminal organization that flooded the East Coast of massive amounts of "Quebec Gold" between 2006 and 2009.

Clearly, the "Iron Curtain" at the border looked more like a colander. Every week, this network raised between 500 and 900 kg of Canadian marijuana in the northern United States, for a potential turnover of $ 1 billion over four years, according to court documents obtained by Le Journal .

The drug was camouflaged in hockey pockets carried by convoys of pickup trucks or snowmobiles. They often crossed the border through the Akwesasne Mohawk Reserve.

Cocaine in reverse

Drivers who preceded the procession without carrying anything were instructed to warn their accomplices by radio when they saw patrol boats or on purpose for the police to intercept them, so that the smugglers have the free way.

Paid just $ 1,000 off the trip, Quebec "couriers" were also going to collect from American traffickers their employers' share of pot sales in New York and Boston.

Part of this money was reinvested "every week" to order California associates from the network of "dozens of kilos of cocaine" to Montreal.

In addition to transporting her husband, Grant reportedly brought in $ 182,000 in dirty money and 25 kg of cocaine in Quebec, according to prosecution witnesses.

The DEA strikes, however, seem to have wreaked havoc within this underground smuggler.


Leslie Grant

A DEA officer alleges that in the spring of 2012, Leslie Grant allegedly fired at the alleged "number 2" in the network, Mihale Leventis.

"He thought that" Rookie "[leventis nickname] had the contract to kill him at the request of a member of the Irish underworld," wrote the agent Michael Norian in writing.

Murder contract

According to the SPVM, Leventis escaped an attempted murder at Cavalli Restaurant on Peel Street on November 9, 2011. Grant denied these allegations before Judge Cournoyer. Detained in Montreal, Leventis challenges his extradition in the Court of Appeal.


Jeffrey Colegrove
Detainee
The DEA alleges that the leader of the network would be Montrealer Jeffrey Colegrove, whom she associates with the Irish underworld. Colegrove is not charged or targeted by these extradition proceedings. He is serving a 12-year penitentiary for possession of a kilo of cocaine in Montreal.

&#9658; An investigation by the Journal , published in February 2015, established that the fugitive Elisabeth Barrer, 32, who was shot dead in Lachine in the spring of 2014, was linked to this organization. His murderer is still running.

OPERATION IRON CURTAIN
In the United States, the network reportedly moved between 450 and 900 kg of Quebec pot per week, from 2006 to 2009, up to 180 tonnes in four years.
The price of their pot pound ranged between $ 2,300 and $ 3,700, for potential annual revenues of $ 300 million.
The leader of the "couriers" of the network, Steven Sarti, of Brossard, 23 years old at the time of his arrest in 2009, was sentenced to 64 months of incarceration.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/19/18 02:11 PM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...res-dun-bar.php

Posted on 19 January 2018 at 06h56 | Updated at 06:56
A man shot by bullets near a bar in NDG

A man was the target of an attempted murder in the street, early Friday night, in front of a bar in the Notre-Dame-de-Grâce district in southwest Montreal.

After being hit by at least one firearm project, around 1:45 am, the individual in his thirties, known to the police, was transported to the hospital. His injuries are not life threatening, according to reports from the Montreal Police Service (SPVM).

Police officers were able to talk to him, but he refused them any collaboration.

The institution in which the assault occurred is located on Sherbrooke Street West, near the intersection of Oxford Street.

No suspects were arrested later in the night. Investigators examine the scene while dogs from the SPVM's canine squad rake the area.The police will try to find out if surveillance cameras in this commercial and residential sector were able to capture images that could help them solve this case.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/22/18 11:30 AM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/01/22/details-inedits-sur-le-meurtre-dun-mafioso

Rizzuto, Di maulo and Desjardins
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/22/18 11:37 AM

Conversation between rizzuto and Di Maulo, before he died
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/22/18 08:33 PM

Interesting, makes Desjardins look like a fuck up if true. Would also show Di Maulo did in fact stay out of things and by not killing Desjardins it cost him his life.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/23/18 03:29 PM


La Presse Edition of January 23, 2018,

MILENA DI MAULO
LIFE AFTER THE MAFIA
NATHALIE PETROWSKI

Is there life after the mafia? A normal life means without mountains of brown notes that accumulate on the tables, without lines of coke that go on forever, without jewelry and furs offered at will, without drivers and limousines, without hotels five stars, without filet mignon and Dom Pérignon, but also without police raids at home, without arrests, trials or prison sentences, and without relatives who fall under the bullets of enemy fire?

Is a normal life possible when we are the daughter of the late Joe Di Maulo, shot in front of his home in 2013, the niece of Raynald Desjardins, currently in prison, the goddaughter of the late Frank Cotroni and the ex-wife of his son , Frankie? According to Milena Di Maulo, who launches these days mafiosi girl and woman , a book about her life written by criminologist Maria Mourani, it seems that yes. On one condition: cut all existing links with his old family.

I met Milena Di Maulo yesterday afternoon in the middle of a day where she chained interviews after TVA and Paul Arcand had given her an hour of television Sunday night on the program Secret Conversation.

During the brief moment that I spent yesterday with this 51-year-old brunette who has the same cajoling smile as her father, she told me everything and her opposite. That she had cut the bridges with the mafia milieu, its restaurants and nightclubs, 12 years ago. But she had kept the money from her father's inheritance and her two children, aged 20 and 22, proudly bore the name Di Maulo Cotroni. Why proudly? "Because they had a great grandfather who brought them to the restaurant and spent hours talking to them and taking an interest in them," says Milena.

Yet this great grandfather, in this case Joseph Di Maulo, whom she affectionately defends in an interview, is described in the book as an inadequate, irresponsible father, a monster of selfishness and greed, ready to betray his own daughter out of greed. For his 15 years, this father has offered his "princess" a Jaguar. She did not have a driver's license? Never mind, Dad paid a girl to fraudulently pass Milena's driver's license instead. When her darling daughter wanted to drop out of school at age 16, Dad did nothing to restrain her. Instead of calling her to order, he gave her $ 500 in spending money for the evening and let her hang out at all the cabarets he ran.


"My father loved me, but his love, he gave it in money. Still, if he and my mother had encouraged me to continue my studies, I would be a cardiovascular surgeon today, "she says with self-esteem who is not afraid of heights or comparisons.

The fact remains that the father was too busy running his clubs and scheming shady business, and the mother, too taken by alcohol and drugs to worry about the schooling of young Milena. Result: from the age of 16, she has landed to live a life of sex, drugs and disco, worthy of Scarface , the classic of Brian de Palma on a baron of drugs in Miami who goes crazy and drowns in the white powder he sells.

"Me too, I put a nose to the sight of all in the restaurants of Miami. I did not care, I was flying, frozen, constantly on the party and surrounded people who said to themselves my friends and who were not. Did I care where the money came from? Let's say that I was playing the ostrich. "

- Milena Di Maulo

From this period, which was finally rather sinister when the Mafia's daughter was on the run without anyone coming to her aid, she would say with almost dreamy eyes: "Being my father's daughter opened so many doors to me everywhere. In planes, hotels, restaurants. I lived the glamorous life of a Hollywood star. "

A glamorous life, really? What glamor can there be to enjoy dirty money, done on the back of prostitution, drug trafficking, corruption, and won most often in violence and blood? In this regard, we feel that Milena Di Maulo continues to play a little ostrich, still dazzled by the pomp she has experienced.

She repeats what she said to Paul Arcand on the program Secret Conversation about her marriage, which she said was the biggest wedding ever in Quebec and Canada. The biggest, really? I remind her of the weddings of Celine Dion, Justin Trudeau and Mulroney. It persists: "Me, my marriage was nothing short of nothing. It was 100% glamorous, elegant and classy. People have talked about it everywhere. We had rented the whole island of La Saulaie. The centerpieces were immense montages of fruits. It was a seven-course meal. People had the choice between two meals, all for a thousand people! Even though at first my father was against my marriage to Frankie, he put the package to impress me, but also to please Frank Cotroni, my father-in-law. "

Life was good for Mafia's daughter and wife, yet she could not get rid of a dull anger. This anger throbbed in her since childhood and the moment she realized that her father, her hero, lied to him with impunity. This anger finally broke out when, out of pure greed, Joe Di Maulo destroyed Joisse Milena, the thriving vinaigrette business his daughter had managed to ride without him.

When Milena Di Maulo was forced to declare bankruptcy because of her father's shenanigans, she stopped talking to him and even let him into her house. It was a breaking point and a turning point. Their relationship was never the same until the death of the mafiosi, shot in front of his home in 2013. His daughter then went into therapy to heal the anger that inhabited. The therapy was prolonged with Maria Mourani and her 56 hours of interview with Milena in preparation for the book.

Today, Milena says she is a liberated woman of immense weight, who cherishes her children and loves to wander through nature without her mafia girl's high heels. She has been dating for a few years a man who has nothing to do with the mafia.

She believes that her book is a bomb, but at the same time, she says she does not fear for her life. The light that exposes it for a few days seems to make him happy. However, she agrees that once the spotlight is turned off, she could disappear and start her life elsewhere, where no one knows Joe Di Maulo's daughter.

Milena Di Maulo - Mafiosi girl and woman

Maria Mourani
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/23/18 03:37 PM

http://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2018/01/22/battue-a-lecole-car-elle-etait-la-fille-dun-mafieux


Beaten at school because she was the daughter of a mafia

She adored her father and followed him like a shadow. Milena Di Maulo, daughter of Joe Di Maulo, an influential member of the Montreal Mafia murdered at home in 2012, has seen all the colors.

She adored her father and followed him like a shadow. Milena Di Maulo, daughter of Joe Di Maulo, an influential member of the Montreal Mafia murdered at home in 2012 , has seen all the colors.

"I accompanied him everywhere until the age of 28, I had no choice. I saw things that really upset me, but other than that, I still had a good childhood. It was quite extravagant, money, travel, clothing, jewelry, it was glamorous, "says Milena Di Maulo in interview to Denis Levesque.

The latter confided to Maria Mourani, author of the book Milena Di Maulo Girl and woman mafiosi . "I wanted to talk about the private dimension. What is the role of women in the mafia? How do children live this? Milena was beaten at school, blamed because she was the daughter of a mafia. It's not easy for a child to live, "says Maria Mourani.
No monsters
Joe Di Maulo lived in crime, but did not want that life for his daughter. Milena had fallen in love with Frank Cotroni's son, Francesco, and married her despite his father's wishes.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/23/18 11:09 PM

"Wanted for 19 years, man with alleged Mafia ties arrested in Gatineau"

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/norman-rosenblum-mafia-wanted-19-years-gatineau-1.4500398
________

From the article:

Norman Rosenblum, 65, was charged 19 years ago with importing more than 550 kilograms of cocaine. It was alleged at the time he had conspired with Montreal Mafia kingpins Vito Rizzuto and Frank Cotroni to orchestrate the crime.

Someone forgot to tell Rizzuto and Cotroni that they should have been at each other's throats. Those wacky Montreal Mafia leaders, collaborating and whatnot.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/24/18 03:15 PM


http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/j...ells-angels-la-police-perquisitionne.php

The police have been conducting a half-dozen searches north-east of Montreal this morning as part of an investigation into a Hells Angels-related drug smuggling ring.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/25/18 12:33 PM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/01/25/le-presume-leader-des-hells-angels-dans-la-mire

The youngest Quebecer to become a member of the Hells Angels in Quebec and now considered the true guiding spirit of the biker gang is in the sights of the police.

Mario Brouillette is suspected of being at the head of a major drug smuggling ring that was the target of searches by the National Organized Crime Squad (ENRCO) yesterday, Le Journal de sources sources policières .

This network based on the North Shore is "directly linked to influential members of the Hells Angels," according to a statement released by this new brigade of investigators from the Sûreté du Québec (SQ), the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, Montreal Police and Laval Police.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/25/18 01:50 PM

Any info on the mysterious Rizzuto member Gianpietro "JP" Tiberio?

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Posted By: Gambler007

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/25/18 11:37 PM

Gianpietro Tiberio--Article from May 30 2016 LaPresse

43 years

Little known, Tiberio, owner of a towing company, is considered by the police as a rising star of the mafia. In April, his name was mentioned in an article in La Presse about a towing company with dubious practices. According to a joint CBC / Globe and Mail investigation, he was involved in the Dream casino in the Dominican Republic, whose late godfather Vito Rizzuto reportedly attempted to take control. Tiberio, aka JP, is believed to be a former soldier of the Rizzuto clan and reportedly close to Domenico Macri, who was killed in August 2006. He has ties to influential bikers. He was sentenced to three years in prison for a 2006 narcotics import conspiracy case. He denies having links with the Mafia.
Posted By: Gambler007

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/25/18 11:45 PM

Aug 17,2017 article

Until recently, the SPVM considered Antonio De Blasio close to Gianpietro "JP" Tiberio, who would also be linked to the Rivière-des-Prairies underground market by a recent police investigation. The police observed Tiberio often in the company of big names of the Italian mafia and leaders of street gangs as with Hells Angels.
Posted By: Gambler007

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/25/18 11:50 PM


If De Blasio was under JP, these 2 clans did not like each other

De Blasio has already had trouble with the clan of influential mafia brothers Andrea and Salvatore Scoppa, already identified by the police as the "strong men" of the Rivière-des-Prairies district.

SPVM investigators know that the victim had already fought with one of the two brothers in a bar in the city a few years ago.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/26/18 01:53 AM

Yeah I think his family is from Abruzzo.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/26/18 12:40 PM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/j...ier-saint-michel-une-cliente-blessee.php

A scene as we rarely see in Montreal. At approximately 2:00 last night, an armed man broke into a Jarry restaurant and randomly opened fire, injuring a client.
The event, which has all the appearance of a "message" presumably passed on to one or more people who frequent a school that the police associate with street gangs, happened at Lucky 7, located at the corner of 10 th Avenue.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/26/18 12:51 PM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/20...l-dans-un-restaurant-libanais-a-montreal

MONTREAL - A fire erupted in a Lebanese restaurant on boulevard de l'Acadie, in the borough of Ahuntsic-Cartierville in Montreal, on the night of Thursday to Friday. This is the third time in just three weeks that the restaurant has been the victim of arson.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/26/18 09:41 PM

https://www.courrierlaval.com/actua...rces-de-bonheur-pour-milena-di-maul.html


Laval was one of the few sources of happiness for Milena Di Maulo

Benoit LeBlanc benoit.leblanc@tc.tc
Posted on January 26, 2018


EVENT. It is in front of a hundred people gathered in a bookstore of the boulevard Le Corbusier that Milena Di Maulo launched her book-testimony Girl and woman of mafiosi where Laval holds a place of choice until the second arrest of her husband, the 16 April 1996, in their residence in Vimont.

Publicity
"Until that day, I only have fond memories of Laval, a city where I celebrated a lot with my friends and gave birth to my two children, to tell the story of the one who divorced Francesco Frankie. Cotroni, son of the former sponsor of the Montreal mafia, in 2003. But during this arrest, there were people everywhere with police, TV cameras and journalists. After that, the neighbors were scared and did not want their kids playing with mine anymore. "


"I grew up in a world of violence, having lost 25 murdered loved ones."

Milena Di Maulo, mafiosi girl and woman

Publicity
Before leaving Laval for the Laurentians, Milena Di Maulo will have a funny surprise.

"I really liked going out at Bentley's," she says. One evening, two members of the tactical squad recognized me. We had a good time and sympathized. "

A few years earlier, Joseph's daughter, "Joe" Di Maulo, one of Quebec's most influential mafiosi murdered in November 2012, had created a stir in the corridors of Hôpital de la Cité-de -the health.

"I received 245 gifts! says Milena Di Maulo. People were asking which star was occupying my room. When they knew it was an organized crime person, I was asked to sign autographs! When I left, I handed the doggies to the Department of Pediatrics and Flowers to seniors in palliative care. "

Crying one's life

His particular position on the chessboard of the Quebec mafia, the brother of his mother is none other than Raynald Desjardins, currently in prison for conspiring in the murder of New York mafioso Salvatore Montagna, makes that Milena Di Maulo was asked for 25 years to tell her story, she said.

In the end, she trusted the criminologist and former MP Maria Mourani for the writing of this biographical work published by Les Éditions de l'Homme.

"I waited to be 50 years old because I had the omertà in me, having grown up with the 3 little monkeys: we do not see anything, we do not hear anything, we do not say anything, mentions the one whose godfather was Frank Cotroni himself, the leader of the powerful Calabrian clan. However, I do not betray anyone in this book. Yes, I loved this life of glamor with jewels, furs, the private jet that takes you to New York and the Bahamas. But I cried my life back. "


Now, the strong woman administers a spa in health care after a dozen years to operate a food business.

"I have nothing to reproach myself with," she adds. I just wanted to tell young women that, yes, these men are beautiful, rich, charming, elegant and lead a luxury lifestyle. However, be very careful! We can no longer have real friends, travel alone and hope for a life in rank, in addition to being a submissive woman. We must not forget that I am lucky to have had my father. He helped me and I was treated equally. "
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/26/18 10:03 PM


http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/j...n-homme-blesse-par-balles-a-montreal.php
updated Jan. 26,2018
La Presse Daniel Renaud

A 40-year-old man was shot and wounded late Wednesday afternoon in Montreal. The event, which went completely under the radar of the media, occurred in the parking lot of a restaurant on the Boulevard Métropolitain, at the rue Pascal-Gagnon, in the Saint-Léonard borough.

"Around 4:00 pm, calls for shots in the parking lot of a restaurant were made at 911. When the police came to the scene, there was no one there. But they did bring the dog handler and the latter found casings ", says the agent André-Anne Picard of the police of Montreal.

"Then, around 8:30 pm, we received a call from the hospital personnel on the north shore of Montreal who told us that a man wounded by a bullet had just presented himself in the hospital," said the spokesperson. .

The man, aged 40, was shot in the upper body, including one arm. He was operated shortly after admission and his life is not in danger. At the time of his statement, he had not yet been interviewed by the investigators from the SPVM's Eastern Division. On the other hand, they searched his home in the Montréal-Nord borough yesterday, looking for clues. It is not excluded that he will eventually be charged.

Linked to organized crime

The police did not want to reveal his identity, but according to our information, the wounded man would be Girard Anglade, aka Jay, who would have links with one of the clans of the Montreal mafia. Moreover, this nebulous affair could be linked to the Mafia or organized crime in Montreal.


According to circules, which has not been confirmed, the story would involve two armed men. The first would have wanted to shoot the second, but his weapon would have jammed. The second then opened fire on the first, wounding him. It is unclear who is the second individual involved and yesterday afternoon the police had not yet determined who was the initiator and the victim in this case.

Anglade has several criminal histories. Police are known to be involved in extortion cases and contracts of all kinds.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/26/18 10:11 PM

http://montrealgazette.com/news/from-the-archives-trio-suspected-in-several-violent-home-invasions

Related article regarding Girard Anglade. The article mentions links to Frederick Silva wanted for the Scoppa incident.

I guess this must be payback.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/27/18 03:41 AM

Originally Posted by Ciment


The Laval police service (Le Service de po​lice de Laval) has handed over the missing-person case to the province's police force (Sûreté du Québec).
_____________

Le frère du caïd Raynald Desjardins porté disparu

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/01/26/le-frere-du-caid-raynald-desjardins-porte-disparu
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/01/18 10:13 PM

More print coverage of the book about Milena Di Maulo. There are a number of photos of her at the item to which I've linked below, including a picture of her and children Joseph Di Maulo Cotroni et Alessandra Di Maulo Cotroni.

Milena Di Maulo: Fille et femme de mafiosi

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/01/31/milena-di-maulo-fille-et-femme-de-mafiosi
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/08/18 11:51 AM

The latest report by the Italian Dia, between 'Ndrangheta and narcos is'' solidarity ''

The change in the structure of criminal power was recorded by Dia in Canada, where "a subversion of the balance of power between Cosa Nostra and 'Ndrangheta" took place, in favor of the latter, which would be replacing the Sicilian rivals in the control of the traffic and drug dealing.

http://www.antimafiaduemila.com/hom...a-ndrangheta-e-narcos-e-solidarieta.html
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/08/18 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by Hollander
The latest report by the Italian Dia, between 'Ndrangheta and narcos is'' solidarity ''

The change in the structure of criminal power was recorded by Dia in Canada, where "a subversion of the balance of power between Cosa Nostra and 'Ndrangheta" took place, in favor of the latter, which would be replacing the Sicilian rivals in the control of the traffic and drug dealing.

http://www.antimafiaduemila.com/hom...a-ndrangheta-e-narcos-e-solidarieta.html


Interesting article. It states that Ndrangheta is present in NY,NJ, and Florida.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/09/18 07:07 PM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/02/09/la-liberation-de-lex-leader-des-hells-confirmee-en-appel

The Court of Appeal confirmed on Friday the stay of proceedings, whose former Hells Angels chief Salvatore Cazzetta and three businessmen from the Kahnawake Mohawk Reserve benefited because of unreasonable judicial delays.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/11/18 01:15 PM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/j...e-des-producteurs-de-methamphetamine.php

Police strike against methamphetamine producers.

Here are some highlights of the article:

The suspects apprehended are Marcello Paolucci, 37, Lorenzo De Rosa, 46, Rudolph Jean, 45, Lucio Angelo, 45, and Julie Hache, 47. Paolucci, De Rosa and Jean were charged with conspiracy, production of substances and possession of substances for the purpose of trafficking.

During the Clemenza investigation, RCMP investigators intercepts in 2011 a communication between Paolucci and Marco Pizzi, an individual suspected of being an importer of cocaine, arrested in the final phase of Clemenza, but also released as a result a judgment of the judicial process. At that time, Paolucci was labeled as part of the clan of Giuseppe De Vito, an opponent of the dead Rizzuto clan poisoned with cyanide in his cell at Donnacona Penitentiary in 2013.

In 2008, Paolucci and other individuals, including the clan chief Salvatore Scoppa, were arrested and accused of abducting Nino De Bartolomeis, aka Nino Brown - a victim of attempted murder in March 2016 - but he had been released, as most of the alleged kidnappers elsewhere.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/13/18 01:24 PM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/20...u-criminel-lie-a-la-mafia-et-aux-motards

Greater Montreal: Large police operation against a criminal network linked to the mafia and bikers
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/13/18 01:48 PM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/02/12/un-caid-est-largue-par-sa-banque

A former West gang leader who has already brewed millions of dollars in cocaine trafficking, but is now broke, may lose his luxurious pied-à-terre in L'Île-des-Sœurs while he is languishing behind the bars.

The Toronto Dominion Bank (TD) has just asked the Superior Court to strip Shane Kenneth Maloney of his condo valued at $ 718,000 and to allow the sale under judicial control, so that the plaintiff can recover nearly half a year. million dollars owed to him by the trafficker.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/13/18 01:56 PM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/02/12/du-dangereux-carfentanil-decouvert-a-laval-1

Blotting patches with the effigy of the LSD discoverer soaked in an opioid 100 times more powerful than fentanyl were seized in Laval after a police intervention in a man in respiratory distress.

The Laval police announced Monday to have got hold of fifteen blotters containing carfentanil, a substance 100 times more powerful than fentanyl.

The discovery took place in a residence in the Vimont neighborhood on January 23, when a 59-year-old man was found inanimate by his son. He died a few days later at the hospital of a cause that remains unknown.


During the intervention, the police discovered marijuana and fifteen stamps, mostly known to contain LSD, a hallucinogenic drug. The analyzes, however, revealed the presence of carfentanil.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/13/18 03:23 PM

https://spvm.qc.ca/fr/Actualites/De...amp;utm_content=5a83021756e48d67a22bf17e

Arrests, laboratory dismantling and major seizures: the SPVM is doing a great deal in the world of traffickers
February 12, 2018

During the night of February 9 to 10, police officers from the Montreal Police Service (SPVM), with the support of several partners, carried out a vast operation against a network involved in the production and trafficking of narcotic drugs. large scale. It was linked to Italian organized crime and criminal bikers.

This operation was carried out following an extensive investigation conducted by the SPVM Organized Crime Division with the collaboration of the Sûreté du Québec (SQ), the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) and the Canada Border Services Agency. Canada (CBSA). The targeted criminal network played a key role in drug trafficking in the greater metropolitan area.

In all, the police conducted six searches: four residences (Montreal, Mirabel, Terrebonne and Blainville); a warehouse in Mirabel and a clandestine laboratory in Chertsey.

Four individuals were arrested. This is Lorenzo DE ROSA, 46 years old; Marcello PAOLUCCI, 37 years old; Rudolph JEAN, 45 years old; and Lucio AUGELLO, 45 years old. They face charges for the production of substances, possession of substances for the purpose of trafficking as well as possession. The suspects appeared at the Court of Quebec on Saturday, February 10, 2018.

Marcello PAOLUCCI Rudolph JEAN Lucio AUGELLO Lorenzo DE ROSA
Marcello Paolucci Rudolph Jean Lucio Augello Lorenzo De Rosa


The police seized considerable amounts of narcotics, including 7 kg of methamphetamine, approximately 100,000 methamphetamine tablets, large batches of anabolic products, and 25 kg of phenyl-2-propanone (P2P) a product used in the manufacture of drugs. narcotics. They also seized several drug-making equipment including three tablet presses in the clandestine laboratory - each with a production capacity of 105,000 tablets per hour.

This operation may have taken place thanks to the survey work carried out following a large project conducted between June 2016 and 2017 targeting individuals involved in the manufacture of synthetic drugs, particularly fentanyl.

The fight against synthetic drugs is a priority for police organizations because they present very important health and public safety issues. Synthetic drugs are produced by improvised chemists and their manufacture and consumption are dangerous. They are also an important source of funding for organized crime.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/14/18 01:55 AM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/20...oupable-davoir-importe-300-kg-de-cocaine

American justice: a Quebecker guilty of having imported 300 kg of cocaine.

A trafficker from Brossard admitted to US justice that he was at the head of an international criminal organization that imported more than 300 kilograms of cocaine into the United States and Canada.

Iraklis Haviaropoulos, 41, convicted of conspiracy, drug trafficking and money laundering with four accomplices - two Americans and two Colombians - last Friday in New York State, Le Journal de Montreal .
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/15/18 05:15 PM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/02/15/mafia-un-ex-leader-du-clan-rizzuto-libere

Francesco Del Balso, one of the leaders of the Rizzuto clan who was sentenced in Operation Colisee, will be able to regain his freedom even if his life remains under threat.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/15/18 06:04 PM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/02/15/pions-quebecois-et-narcotrafiquants-mondiaux-1

The two young women and the 60-year-old Quebecker who allegedly imported 95 kg of cocaine in Australia were part of a vast remote control operation in Montreal, involving at least 12 people in Quebec, Morocco, Mexico and Peru.

Mélina Roberge, Isabelle Lagacé and André Tamine are in prison, in Sydney, but they would have been nothing but simple mules in this alleged plot, carefully planned by an Egyptian-Syrian gang and the Jewish underworld of the metropolis, in collaboration with the infamous Mexican cartel of Sinaloa.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/15/18 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment
http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/02/15/mafia-un-ex-leader-du-clan-rizzuto-libere

Francesco Del Balso, one of the leaders of the Rizzuto clan who was sentenced in Operation Colisee, will be able to regain his freedom even if his life remains under threat.


Link to Daniel Renaud's article is below. Renaud will update his story later.

Francesco Del Balso retrouve sa liberté sous conditions

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/j...-retrouve-sa-liberte-sous-conditions.php
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/15/18 08:30 PM

They seem to have on a short leash.

Did you notice that it has been quiet both in Montreal and Toronto. Curious to know if they reached some agreement.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/15/18 11:13 PM

We'll find out soon because someone definitely wants him dead too.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/16/18 05:09 AM

Below is the link to Daniel Renaud's updated story (see my post from three posts back):

Francesco Del Balso libéré malgré une vie menacée

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/j...-balso-libere-malgre-une-vie-menacee.php
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/17/18 12:15 AM

http://cattolicaeracleanews.eu/2018...-storica-famiglia-scatta-sequestro-beni/



Cattolica eraclea Mafia: Ciccu Mormina "identified as the successor in the role of head of the historic family", seized assets seizure.

Millitary forces of the Economic-Financial Police Unit of the Guardia di Finanza of Agrigento have executed an sequestration order issued by the Court of Agrigento - Section of Prevention Measures with reference to the real estate assets, as well as to the financial resources of Giuseppe Mormina (called " Ciccu ") , 78, of Cattolica Eraclea. This ordinance arises from the results of patrimonial investigations delegated to the financiers within the procedure of prevention measures of the District Attorney of Palermo with reference to Mormina and to the respective family unit. The assessment activity took place in the broader sector of the so-called "economic" contrast to organized crime and the effective aggression against illicit assets was made possible thanks to the in-depth analysis of financial flows compared to consumption and income achieved on a large scale- time frame. In particular, the forces of the Economic-Financial Police Unit of Agrigento have sealed 7 residential properties , a business complex (operating in the agricultural sector) and 22 land properties totalling 373.410 sqm located in the Municipality of Cattolica Eraclea, as well as current and deposit accounts for a total value of 752.377.05 euro .

The provision of prevention, which relates to the figure of Giuseppe Mormina son of the well-known boss Francesco Mormina, historic Mafia cattolicese, shows the danger as a result linked to criminals of international caliber (of which the best known is undoubtedly Nick Rizzuto , killed November 10, 2010) and, as pointed out by the judges, identified as the successor in the role of head of the historic family of Cattolica Eraclea. The Mormina's, are in fact linked by close family relationships with Domenico Terrasi (person subjected to the measure of prevention of special surveillance of public security, with obligation to stay in the municipality of residence when he leaves), another prominent feature of the mafia consortium of Cattolica Eraclea, together with which he was also a witness to the wedding of Gaetano Amodeo , the latter arrested in Canada (then extradited to Italy where he died in prison for an illness) after a long hiding from having played an active role in various murders, including that of the Marshal of the Carabinieri Giuliano Guazzelli . The criminal links of Mormina transpires indubitably from the relationships maintained with various members of the criminal gangster such as Antonino Messina, (formerly ruler of the Agrigento family in the 80s), Emanuele Sedita , Simone Capizzi and Salvatore Di Ganci , heads of the families of Ribera and Sciacca respectively, Bonanno family as well .
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/19/18 11:03 PM

Stefano Sollecito and Leonardo Rizzuto, who on paper are considered acting leaders of the Montreal Mafia, have been acquitted.

Leonardo Rizzuto et Stefano Sollecito acquittés

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/j...zzuto-et-stefano-sollecito-acquittes.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/20/18 02:31 AM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Stefano Sollecito and Leonardo Rizzuto, who on paper are considered acting leaders of the Montreal Mafia, have been acquitted.

Leonardo Rizzuto et Stefano Sollecito acquittés

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/j...zzuto-et-stefano-sollecito-acquittes.php


Alleged Montreal Mafia leaders Rizzuto and Sollecito acquitted

http://montrealgazette.com/news/loc...rizzuto-and-sollecito-acquitted-reports/


Espionnés illégalement, deux ex-piliers de la mafia montréalaise sont acquittés

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/20...-de-la-mafia-montrealaise-sont-acquittes
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/20/18 05:32 PM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/j...-de-perquisitions-contre-les-motards.php

About 130 police officers, including investigators from Montreal's ENRCO, have been searching since the middle of the morning about twenty homes and businesses in the greater Montreal area and the North Shore, in connection with a major investigation against a network of alleged drug traffickers related to the Hells Angels.
The police searched the city of Mount Royal, in Pointe-aux-Trembles and Anjou neighborhoods in Montreal, Repentigny, L'Assomption, Sainte-Adèle, Charlemagne, Legardeur and Terrebonne. Among the targeted places, one would find a training room located on the Boulevard Marien and a sumptuous residence belonging to a certain Carmelo Sacco. Nobody will be arrested. These are searches carried out during the course of the investigation.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/20/18 06:32 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment
http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/j...-de-perquisitions-contre-les-motards.php

About 130 police officers, including investigators from Montreal's ENRCO, have been searching since the middle of the morning about twenty homes and businesses in the greater Montreal area and the North Shore, in connection with a major investigation against a network of alleged drug traffickers related to the Hells Angels.
The police searched the city of Mount Royal, in Pointe-aux-Trembles and Anjou neighborhoods in Montreal, Repentigny, L'Assomption, Sainte-Adèle, Charlemagne, Legardeur and Terrebonne. Among the targeted places, one would find a training room located on the Boulevard Marien and a sumptuous residence belonging to a certain Carmelo Sacco. Nobody will be arrested. These are searches carried out during the course of the investigation.


Seems like when the Mafia gets a break the others aren't followed by the other way around.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/20/18 08:56 PM

Originally Posted by Sonny_Black
Originally Posted by Ciment
http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/j...-de-perquisitions-contre-les-motards.php

About 130 police officers, including investigators from Montreal's ENRCO, have been searching since the middle of the morning about twenty homes and businesses in the greater Montreal area and the North Shore, in connection with a major investigation against a network of alleged drug traffickers related to the Hells Angels.
The police searched the city of Mount Royal, in Pointe-aux-Trembles and Anjou neighborhoods in Montreal, Repentigny, L'Assomption, Sainte-Adèle, Charlemagne, Legardeur and Terrebonne. Among the targeted places, one would find a training room located on the Boulevard Marien and a sumptuous residence belonging to a certain Carmelo Sacco. Nobody will be arrested. These are searches carried out during the course of the investigation.


Seems like when the Mafia gets a break the others aren't followed by the other way around.


I know, maybe it is a new police tactic.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/20/18 09:06 PM

http://www.journaldequebec.com/2018...n-reseau-de-trafiquants-des-hells-angels

Journal de Montreal
ÉRIC THIBAULT
Tuesday, February 20, 2018 11:04
Update Tuesday, February 20, 2018 11:04


The police have been conducting since Tuesday morning about twenty searches at the expense of a large network of drug trafficking whose strings would be pulled by the new alleged leader of the Hells Angels.

It is a criminal organization linked to "influential members" of the motorcycle gang, including Mario Brouillette, who is targeted in this operation involving 130 police officers from the National Crime Suppression Squad (ENRCO).

On January 24, Le Journal de Montreal reported that Mario Brouillette, formerly known as "The Dauphin of Mauritius 'Mom' Boucher" and that the police believe to be the new guiding spirit of the Hells, is suspected of leading this network of traffickers present in Montreal and on the northern neigborhoods.


The brigade is thus conducting its second series of searc[/b]hes in as many months against this network, after the one carried out at the end of January where a jeweler's shop in Repentigny had been visited.

Suspect well connected

In this second phase of the investigation project called "Objection", the ENRCO is particularly interested in a businessman of Italian origin considered to be the alleged right hand of Mario Brouillette.

According to our information, the police believe that Carmelo Sacco Jr. is not only close to Brouillette and the Hells but also has ties to the mafia and street gangs in Montreal.

According to our sources, Sacco has already been observed by the police in the company of large organized crime figures, including the former head of the Italian mafia, Stefano Sollecito, before the arrest of the latter in November 2015.

On Monday, Sollecito was acquitted, along with the son of the late godfather Vito Rizzuto, the lawyer Leonardo Rizzuto, charges of gangsterism and conspiracy that had been against them for more than two years.

Judge Eric Downs dismissed the wiretap evidence that incriminated them, finding that the police had illegally recorded their conversations in the lawyer's office Loris Cavaliere.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/20/18 09:56 PM

Damn Rizzuto sits in jail for 3 years or so for nothing.

I'm interested in seeing how things go now that the "bosses" are back on the streets now. I'm betting things really pick back up news wise North of the border.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/20/18 10:14 PM

"Rizzuto to keep low profile after release, crime expert suggests"

http://montrealgazette.com/news/loc...ile-after-release-crime-expert-suggests/
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/21/18 01:28 AM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/20...-australie--un-quebecois-plaide-coupable

The Montrealer accused of importing 95 kg of cocaine in Australia with the help of two young Quebec women pleaded guilty on Friday to a charge of importing drugs in commercial quantities.

Andre Jorge Tamine, 64, was arrested in August 2016 aboard the Sea Princess boat in Sydney Harbor. He had just completed a luxurious two-month cruise around the world alongside Isabelle Lagacé, 30, and Mélina Roberge, 24
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/22/18 12:22 PM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/02/22/un-proces-pour-avoir-importe-15-tonnes-de-haschisch

Alain Charron, an associate of Raynald Desjardins can not avoid his trial in the face of serious charges of conspiracy to import of 15 tons of hashish in Montreal.
Posted By: southend

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/22/18 01:03 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment
http://www.journaldemontreal.com/20...-australie--un-quebecois-plaide-coupable

The Montrealer accused of importing 95 kg of cocaine in Australia with the help of two young Quebec women pleaded guilty on Friday to a charge of importing drugs in commercial quantities.

Andre Jorge Tamine, 64, was arrested in August 2016 aboard the Sea Princess boat in Sydney Harbor. He had just completed a luxurious two-month cruise around the world alongside Isabelle Lagacé, 30, and Mélina Roberge, 24


that Melina Roberge is a fucking smoke show hot damn. I guess Isabella Lagace used to be a nude model or porn actor one or the other. I've seen this a handful of times in the past couple years with drug dealers sending women on luxurious vacations across the world as a cover up for actually getting a sizeable load of drugs from point A-B
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/23/18 07:00 PM

Les accusations contre Leonardo Rizzuto sont maintenues

http://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2018/02/23/les-accusations-contre-leonardo-rizzuto-sont-maintenues
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/23/18 07:09 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia


Mob-linked Leonardo Rizzuto to answer to weapons, drug charges in March

http://montrealgazette.com/news/loc...answer-to-weapons-drug-charges-in-march/
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/23/18 08:38 PM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/j...e-frappe-contre-les-hells-en-un-mois.php

Police continue to search the Hells Angels. Fourth time in a month, officers struck a narcotics-related drug ring this morning.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/24/18 02:04 PM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/20...vier-dans-le-cadre-de-lenquete-objection

More than $ 3 million in money and drugs
Authorities take stock of seizures after raids on high-ranking organized crime HA figures
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/25/18 06:48 PM

Linking below to an article that explains why Stefano Solllecito and Leonardo Rizzuto were recently acquitted.

La police trahie par sa technologie

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/02/25/la-police-trahie-par-sa-technologie
Posted By: aidanbrexit

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/25/18 07:34 PM




Bronfman Crime family

In 1922 Paul Matoff was shot to death in Saskatchewan in a firefight between 2 bootlegger-gangs. Matoff was the brother in law of Samuel Bronfman who makes in Canada whiskey and sold it during prohibition to gangs in the US. The Bronfman family delivered booze from Canada to the Purple gang, Dalitz in Cleveland, Rothstein, Luciano and Lansky.

This section excerpted from:
http://home.wxs.nl/~puparo/canada.htm


According to the authors of *Dope, Inc.*, one way that greedy dealers are punished by the Big Boys of the illegal narcotics business is to have agencies of the federal government act as "muscle" or "enforcers". "Back during Prohibition, old Sam Bronfman had [a] problem with the petty racketeers who drove the trucks across the border. They were greedy, and too numerous. Meyer Lansky's Murder, Inc. provided the essential service of weeding their ranks. It appears that today the same service is performed for the dope traffic by the United States Treasury."

source:
http://www.beyond-the-illusion.com/files/New-Files/960930/cn-835.txt



Big-Time Gangsters Set up McCain's Family Fortune
The Buchanan-hating Bronfman family are the "godfathers" behind the organized crime empire in Arizona that spawned the political career of "reformer" John McCain.

By Michael Collins Piper

In 1976 a crusading Phoenix reporter, Don Bolles, was murdered by a car-bomb after writing a series of stories exposing the organized crime connections of well-known figures in Arizona, including one Jim Hensley.

Five years later "Honest John" McCain arrived in Arizona as the new husband of Hensley's daughter, Cindy. "From the moment McCain landed in Phoenix," according to Charles Lewis of the Center for Public Integrity, "the Hensleys were key sponsors of his political career."

The fact is, the people ultimately behind the Hensley fortune are even more interesting and controversial

While it is well-known McCain's father-in-law is owner of the biggest Anheuser-Busch beer distributor in Arizona—one of the largest beer distributors in the nation—the media has had nothing to say about the origins of the Hensley fortune that financed McCain's rise to power.

The Hensley fortune, in fact, is a regional offshoot of the big time bootlegging and rackets empire of the Bronfman dynasty of Canada, founded by Sam Bronfman, an early partner of Meyer Lansky, longtime "chairman of the board" of the international crime syndicate. (The Bronfmans cover all bases. Sam's son, Edgar, today—at least publicly—supports George W. Bush.)

McCain's father-in-law got his start as a top henchman of one Kemper Marley who, for some forty years until his death in 1990 at age 84, was the undisputed behind-the-scenes political boss of Arizona. But Marley was much more: he was also the protege of Lansky's longtime lieutenant, Phoenix gambler Gus Greenbaum.

In 1941 Greenbaum had set up the Transamerica Publishing and News Ser vice, which operated a national wire service for bookmakers. In 1946 Green baum turned over the day-to-day operations to Marley while Greenbaum focused on building up Lansky-run casinos in Las Vegas, commuting there from his home in Phoe nix. Greenbaum, in fact, was so integral to the Lansky empire that he was the one who took command of Lansky's Las Vegas interests in 1947 after Lansky ordered the execution of his own longtime friend, Benjamin "Bugsy" Siegel, for skimming profits from the new Flamingo Casino.

Greenbaum and his wife were murdered in a mob "hit" in 1948, their throats cut. The murder set off a series of gangland wars in Phoenix, but Marley survived and prospered

During this time Marley was building up a liquor distribution monopoly in Arizona. The truth is that it was the Bronfman family that set Marley up in business. However, in 1948, some 52 of Marley's employees (including Jim Hensley) went to jail on federal liquor violations—but not Marley.

The story in Arizona is that Hensley took the fall for Marley. Upon Hensley's release from prison, Marley paid Hensley back by setting him up in the beer business. That company today, said to be worth $200 million, financed McCain's career. And without Marley's political support McCain could have never even gotten elected dogcatcher.

But there's more. McCain's father-in-law had also dabbled in the dog racing business and he expanded his family fortune further by selling his dog racing track to an individual connected to the the Buffalo-based Jacobs family.

The Jacobs were the leading distributors for Bronfman liquor into the United States during Prohibition into the hands of local gangs that were part of the Lansky syndicate. Expanding over the years, the family's enterprises were once described as being "probably the biggest quasi-legitimate cover for organized crime's money-laundering in the United States."

While John McCain himself can not be held personally responsible for the sins of his father-in-law, the fact is that this "reformer" owes his political and financial fortunes to the good graces of the biggest names in organized crime.

source: The Spotlight
http://www.spotlight.org/Pat/gangsters/gangsters.html

Charles Luciano was nicknamed Charile Lucifer, "the devil." He was the most feared and hated of the underworld bosses. Luciano liked Toddy both because he was attracted to her and she had a restaurant he wanted to use for one of his bases of operations on the third floor for gambling. Luciano was one of the three major distributors for the Bronfman’s narcotics. The Bronfmans are outwardly Jewish and covertly satanists. Remember they were mentioned in the previous Collins article being friends of actor Joan Collins.

Rothstein and Meyer Lansky were the other two Bronfman distributors. (Dope. Inc., p. 431) Luciano supplied Hot Toddy with her drugs. At the time of her murder, her movie boss had planned to raise her salary to $3,500 a week. Luciano worked for the U.S. government during W.W. II, and in 1946 was deported to Sicily. During W.W.II Luciano work for US. Intelligence--SOE and OSS. (Where else in this newsletter have I mentioned the corruption in the Intelligence Agencies?) After being "deported" to Sicily, Luciano continued to work for US. Intelligence and Permindex (Dope. Inc., p. 483)-which is the elite’s assassination bureau which later moved the center of its headquarters to Paradise Island in the Grand Bahamas. (Dope. Inc., p.493) (It seems to me that Luciano had connections to Onassis.)

I noticed that there was a man named Collins who was involved with the Illuminati’s movements to take over the Australian economy. He was an executive of H.W. Smith, one of those companies that interlock with the CIA, mob, and Illuminati. As you may realize, I offer these types of clues because I can’t presume on the future and hope that others will asist in putting together the pieces of how widespread the satanic Collins family is.

Joan Collins spent time with Edgar Bronfman. The Bronfman family are the Jewish Illuminati family that runs Canada. (p. 281-282)

Source: Excerpts from: Dope, Inc.
http://www.light1998.com/The_satanic_bloodline/Collins_bloodline.htm




The Rest of the Story
The Bronfman Crime Families

By Allan May

The Purple Gang originated in Detroit. Dalitz, who once lived in Detroit and had family there, had connections to the Purple Gang but his main influence was in Cleveland. Born in Boston, Dalitz moved to Cleveland and used the name Maurice Davis so he wouldn't embarrass his family, who remained in Detroit and ran a legitimate laundry business.

Dalitz's important status in the underworld was apparent when he was invited to the Atlantic City crime conference in 1929. The meeting, which coincided with Meyer Lansky's honeymoon, was the first movement toward a national crime syndicate. The theme of the conference was nationwide cooperation. Some discussions took place on the beach with mobsters walking around barefoot with their pantlegs rolled up. The main topics of conversation were post-Prohibition plans for the liquor business and dividing up the country into exclusive gambling franchises. Depending on which book you read, the meeting was initiated by Lucky Luciano, Lansky, (left) Frank Costello (right) or Johnny Torrio of Chicago. What is not in dispute is that the participants came from a wide variety of ethnic and religious backgrounds including Italian, Irish, Polish and Jewish.

The Bronfman (Edgar left) family started out in the hotel business in Canada but during Prohibition they reportedly made tremendous profits by shipping liquor into the United States, reportedly shipping booze through Cleveland, Detroit and New York.

Dalitz's connection to the Bronfman family stemmed from the fact that the Bronfmans shipped most of their liquor through Cleveland because of the city's proximity to the Canadian border. However, the Bronfmans also dealt with the Purple Gang in Detroit, and with various New York bootleggers including Luciano (right), Lansky and Arnold Rothstein. The Bronfmans were always entertained lavishly and treated to the best seats at boxing matches by their underworld hosts. After Prohibition, the Bronfmans' distilleries were among the most profitable in the liquor industry.

source:
Excerpt from an article at:
http://www.ganglandnews.com/

[1] FIRST NATIONAL BANK OF CICERO (a Chicago suburb, Al Capone Land, a long-known mafia enclave). Later it became the flagship of PINNACLE BANC GROUP. Still later, to confuse matters, the bank was called Old Kent Bank, a unit whose head office is Grand Rapids, Michigan. Pinnacle was the successor and alter ego to the mysterious, scandal-wrecked, BANK OF CREDIT AND COMMERCE INTERNATIONAL, which supposedly (although not actually) went under in 1991. BCCI was a reputed assassination and espionage funding apparatus for various intelligence agencies, including the American CIA, the French CIA, and Israel's The Mossad (The Institute).

Bishop Paul Marcinkus, head of the VATICAN BANK until 1991, was also the dominant force controlling First National Bank of Cicero. Marcinkus was originally from Cicero and ran a church there. Marcinkus fled the Vatican, sheltering himself with his Vatican passport, when Italian authorities sought to grill him and possibly prosecute him for various criminal offenses he reportedly committed as Vatican Bank chief. He returned to the U.S. and lives in Sun City, Arizona.

[2] Roger D'Onofrio, an American CIA official, with dual citizenship, U.S. and Italy, living near Naples, Italy. Italian authorities, in the wire service and other stories of December, 1995, described him as the CIA's secret paymaster in Italy, to fund political assassinations of those not liked by the American CIA, and to pay-off or destroy opposition parties in the Italian government.

The Pelossi-Marcinkus-D'Onofrio ring reportedly, through Vatican Bank and other financial institutions, trafficked in smuggled gold, osmium nuclear bomb triggers, high quality counterfeit foreign currencies, and other illicit goods and services. With the corrupt connivance of top officials of the INTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE, Chicago Region office, Pelossi reportedly arranged the laundering of billions of dollars through concealed and dummy accounts, reportedly in the following banks, among others; and for and on behalf reportedly of George W. Bush, Jeb Bush, and the Elder Bush, their father: HARRIS BANK OF CHICAGO, and their Foreign Exchange section, called ForEx, a unit of BANK OF MONTREAL owned principally by the whiskey-soaked BRONFMAN FAMILY [SEAGRAMS booze, Cineplex Odeon movie theater chain, as well as numerous operations of records-entertainment in California].

This section excerpted from:
Laundry Wizard For George Bush Family Arrested


http://hiddenmysteries.org/conspiracy/reststory/bronfmanscrime.html
Posted By: Moscone65

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/25/18 08:55 PM

What does this have to do with Montreal?
Posted By: aidanbrexit

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/25/18 08:58 PM

Originally Posted by Moscone65
What does this have to do with Montreal?


The Bronfmans Run Montreal...And most of Canada.
Media, Booze, Gambling, Drugs, Prostitution.
See the below link.

http://www.lyndonlarouche.org/dope9.pdf
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/25/18 10:59 PM

Originally Posted by aidanbrexit
Originally Posted by Moscone65
What does this have to do with Montreal?


The Bronfmans Run Montreal...And most of Canada.
Media, Booze, Gambling, Drugs, Prostitution.
See the below link.

http://www.lyndonlarouche.org/dope9.pdf



You have your facts wrong buddy !
Posted By: aidanbrexit

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/25/18 11:25 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment
Originally Posted by aidanbrexit
Originally Posted by Moscone65
What does this have to do with Montreal?


The Bronfmans Run Montreal...And most of Canada.
Media, Booze, Gambling, Drugs, Prostitution.
See the below link.

http://www.lyndonlarouche.org/dope9.pdf



You have your facts wrong buddy !


Not according to the Montreal Crime Commission, 'buddy'
Posted By: helenwheels

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/25/18 11:27 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment


You have your facts wrong buddy !


Dont waste your time with him, Ciment. He's either a Nazi or a troll. Look at the garbage he's posting in all the threads he's in.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/25/18 11:45 PM

Originally Posted by helenwheels
Originally Posted by Ciment


You have your facts wrong buddy !


Dont waste your time with him, Ciment. He's either a Nazi or a troll. Look at the garbage he's posting in all the threads he's in.


I think you are right.
Posted By: aidanbrexit

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/25/18 11:49 PM

Originally Posted by helenwheels
Originally Posted by Ciment


You have your facts wrong buddy !


Dont waste your time with him, Ciment. He's either a Nazi or a troll. Look at the garbage he's posting in all the threads he's in.


By Nazi, you mean someone who tells the truth about Jews and jewish crime...
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/26/18 03:54 PM

https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/...-the-latest-l-for-quebec-law-enforcement

A Mafia Acquittal Is the Latest L for Quebec Law Enforcement
Posted By: aidanbrexit

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/26/18 04:11 PM

A New Book on OC in Montreal....


Pierre de Champlain is one of Canada’s foremost experts on organized crime. As an intelligence analyst for the RCMP he got an up close and personal look at gangsters and crimes. As an author he shared his knowledge with readers around the world. On February 26, his new book about the history of organized crime in Montreal will hit stores.
By Pierre de Champlain

The release of Histoire du crime organisé à Montréal de 1900 à 1980 (it is printed in French - English prints will soon follow) comes ten years after the release of my book Mobsters, Gangsters and Men of Honour which detailed the Mafia’s codes, structure, and behavior.

This new book reveals that organized crime activities such as drug trafficking, prostitution and gambling were almost out of control in the early 20th century in Montreal, where corruption was “a way of life” among city police and politicians. It also covers the activities of the Black Hand, a criminal organization which was not only active in New York and Chicago but in Montréal and Toronto as well.

It contains new information about Tony Frank, a mobster born in Catania, Sicily, who emigrated in Montréal in the 1900's. He was a very influential mafia boss who had solid ties to some of the members of the Morality Squad of the Montreal police. There was also Harry Davis, a gangster born from Russian Jewish parents, who in the mid-1920s became an important drug trafficker, and who was finally arrested by the RCMP in 1933.

Organized crime in Montreal was predominantly ruled by Jewish gangsters who migrated to the US and Canada in large masses at the beginning of the 20th century.

The Italian mob became a force only in the mid-1950s, when Carmine Galante and his cohorts set foot on Canadian soil in the early 1950's and took over Montréal rackets, namely major drug operations.

The book focuses in great part on the life and career of the Cotroni brothers, and in particular that one of Vincenzo, who ruled Montréal rackets from the mid-1950's until the 1980s. Thanks to the Access to Information Act, and to National Archives in Ottawa, which enabled me to get genuine information on the origins of the Cotronis in 1925, and other well-known Canadian major crime figures.

And

Jewish Gangsters

Until the arrival of New York’s Cosa Nostra in Montreal in the early 1950s, gambling and underworld crime were locally-run, and from the 1920s until the 50s, many Jews were actively involved in these illicit enterprises.

Max Shapiro came to Montreal from Poland in the 1920s and ran one of the most successful gambling houses in the city. Eventually, with partners, he opened the famous Ruby Foo’s hotel and restaurant.

Harry Feldman, of New York, owned a three-storey building on Bleury and Ste-Catherine, where the ground floor housed a legitimate business, but the upper floors were dedicated to bookmaking. Unlike his contemporaries, he lived quietly and did not get involved in the drug trade.
He was a part owner of many significant establishments, including Chez Parée, and was known as a good family man. In fact, over the course of his 14-year career, he was never apprehended and his organizational skills were even praised by the chief of Montreal police at the time, Pacifique Plante.

Harry Davis of Romania was another prominent local gambler, responsible for the first underworld killing in Montreal. In 1935, he had Charles Feigenbaum—a police informant whose testimony had resulted in Davis’ 14-year sentence for smuggling morphine—murdered on Esplanade across from Fletcher’s Field.
After several years in jail, Davis returned to the city in the mid-1940s and regained his title as gambling Tsar, controlling who could open gambling venues in the Red Light District and taking 20% from each. His rule came to an end on July 25, 1946, when he was shot to death in his gambling house at 1244 Stanley Street. He was killed by Louis Bercowitz, who did not receive Davis’s permission to open his own gambling establishment. Davis’s death permitted Harry Ship to dominate the gambling trade until his mistakes brought the New York Cosa Nostra to Montreal, engendering a new era of organized crime.

Harry Ship, called the King of the Montreal Gamblers
, was a major bookmaker and operator of illegal casinos all over Montreal. Born in 1915, Ship studied mathematics at Queen’s University. Although he did not graduate, he excelled in his studies and was highly respected among his peers.
He returned to Montreal in 1940, where he established a series of “white houses” along Ste-Catherine Street. Each house contained five telephone lines, blackboards and operators’ headsets, so bookies could take bets and write them up simultaneously. Business was so brisk that the apartments were often subdivided into halves and quarters to be able to house all the bookmakers. He also operated illegal casinos in Lachine, Greenfield Park, and on a farm in Côte St. Luc. Ship admitted that he made $1M annually, from 1940 to 1946 (equivalent: $15M today).

Although he lived lavishly, including owning a mansion in Outremont and the Chez Parée nightclub, which featured acts such as Frank Sinatra and Dean Martin, his operations were frequently raided and he paid huge sums of money to the local police. Eventually, he was arrested and sentenced to six months in jail.

Perhaps Ship’s legacy to Montreal is the introduction of New York’s Cosa Nostra into the city.
It seems that Ship owed money to Frank Erikson, the wealthiest bookie on the East Coast, whose silent partners included Meyer Lansky, Frank Costello and Lucky Luciano. Due to his indebtedness, Ship was forced to accept the interference of the New York families in the early 1950s, which resulted in the Montreal underworld being controlled from New York, and the city becoming an important center for bookmaking and heroin smuggling.
Little is known about Ship after this period, except that his is buried in the only family circle at the Baron De Hirsch Cemetery in Montreal and he, like so many other iconic figures, is immortalized in Mordecai Richler’s novel, The Apprenticeship of Duddy Kravitz.
Ship’s legacy in the Jewish community was immortalized in Mordecai Richler’s novel, The Apprenticeship of Duddy Kravitz. Richler’s character, “The Boy Wonder,” was based on Ship, who went by the same nickname. Died 1998.


http://www.juifsdici.ca/en/montreal-jewish-gangsters/
Posted By: aidanbrexit

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/26/18 04:13 PM

Older Story 1997, still relevant.



Montreal daily assailed for Jewish mob-member focus

By J. Correspondent | June 6, 1997

MONTREAL — Canadian Jewish groups are demanding an apology from a French Montreal daily for a story they claim is anti-Semitic.

The article focused on Royal Canadian Mounted Police arrests of Jewish members of a criminal organization.
The story in the newspaper La Presse ran Wednesday of last week under the headline, "RCMP Strike a Deadly Blow to a Jewish Criminal Organization."
It described a criminal group led by Montrealers with Jewish-sounding last names.
These men, Morris Mayers and Shimon Ben-David, were charged along with Mahmood Hassan and Thomas McKinnon, but La Presse focused on the Jewish identity of the organization.

Seven of the group's 31 members, also suspected of smuggling drugs, are said to be Jewish.
Both Canadian Jewish Congress and B'nai B'rith Canada expressed their outrage at the La Presse coverage, which also alleged links between Jews and the Mafia.
The newspaper also ran a separate article about infamous American Jewish organized crime leaders Meyer Lansky and "Bugsy" Siegel.

"The religious background of a number of the individuals apprehended has no relevance nor relationship to the criminal acts and the identification of the group as such casts a very negative shadow over Quebec's Jewish community," said Steve Slimovitch, legal committee chairman of the BBC League for Human Rights.
"It unjustly nourishes intolerant stereotypes."
The league sent a letter to Claude Masson, La Presse's assistant publisher, demanding a published apology.
Mike Cohen, CJC's national communications director, said that his organization's leadership would meet with Masson to explain its position on the issue.

CJC also issued a written statement expressing its outrage.
But Masson defended his paper's coverage.
"I think we're playing with words a bit," he was quoted as saying. "I think we should be careful about being so politically correct that we can no longer say what is happening in our society."

Masson did say he would reserve judgment until meeting with representatives of Jewish groups.
But he pointed out that the leaders of the criminal group have been identified as Jewish by the RCMP, which stated that the main leaders have Jewish or Israeli connections.
Fo Niemi, executive director of the Center for Research Action on Race Relations, said the story "shows a tremendous lack of sensitivity. It essentially turns a crime issue into an issue of ethnicity."

According to some of the newspaper's critics, the story about Lansky and Siegel appeared to add insult to injury.
Jeffrey Boro, a lawyer for one of those arrested (who was later released), said the newspaper "had to go back 40 years to find a notorious Jewish criminal, which gives you an idea of how criminalized our population is."
Regarding the second story on infamous Jewish mobsters, Masson admitted, "Perhaps we went too far there."

CJC Quebec region chair Reisa Teitelbaum said La Presse's coverage was simply unacceptable.
"Criminals are criminals. It is despicable that ethnicity and religion became an issue here. We think it is important that the media does not fall into this kind of trap."
The CJC's community relations chairman, Arielle Meloul, pointed out that other newspapers covering this story locally refused to focus on the religion of those arrested.

"This is particularly disturbing to the Jewish community, given the very good relations we have fostered with La Presse over the last number of years. That is why we are seeking this meeting with La Presse before deciding whether or not to take further action."
One option open to Jewish groups would be to file a grievance with the Quebec Press Council.'

https://www.jweekly.com/1997/06/06/montreal-daily-assailed-for-jewish-mob-member-focus/






Posted By: aidanbrexit

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/26/18 04:39 PM

So Bronfman owns AIRPORT Security......Drug trafficking mastermind.




Mitchell Bronfman: Montreal man of unlikely intrigue and mystery

Quote

The title might not seem a natural fit for Bronfman, who died two years ago at age 80, as he had the sex appeal of a head of wilted Romaine lettuce (and about as much hair - Chimples) Though he might not come off as a man of action or intrigue, Bronfman, remarkably, had one degree of separation, from Italian mobsters, Jewish Mafia, the airline industry, pump and dump stock market fraudsters, airport drug crooks, corrupt RCMP and FLQ terrorists.
His name came up in just about every scandal, even though he looked incapable of villainy of any sort.
His legacy has never been clearly resolved. French media cited RCMP reports suggesting that he might have been in on a big ring of drug importers at the airport.

Psychologists could tell you that it's more psychologically healthy to be raised poor among the poor than be raised merely comfortable in an environment of people who are much richer than yourself. So unlike many other Bronfmans, Mitchell had to hustle. To his credit he started businesses here in Montreal and employed people and so forth.
He reportedly owned a restaurant downtown and started an airport service for luxury seeking passengers. He also started a company called Securex which helped do security at the Airport. Bronfman's main troubles stemmed from doing business with Willie Obront, who was a butcher but also the mastermind behind legitimatizing, reinvesting and laundering Mafia cash.The RCMP noted that Mitchell Bronfman was very close to Obront.

Bronfman claimed that he was not close to Obront, who may or may not be still alive nowadays in Florida, he'd be in his 90s.
Donald McLeery. The unusual chain went something like this: Italian Mafia (Frank Cotroni)- Jewish Mafia (money launderer Willie Obront) - Mitchell Bronfman - RCMP anti terrorism squad (McLeery) - FLQ.
Bronfman was called to testify at the crime commission and answered questions about how his cash managed to get put into fraudulent pump and dump penny oil stock New Gateway Oils and Ministers Ltd. traded by his brokers Grant Johnston between 1965 and 1968.
He said that his brokers were acting on their own and he was oblivious to the scam and that his only instructions to them were to sell the Seagrams shares he inherited at the best possible price.

Paul Michelin
Mitchell Bronfman told the CECO crime commission in the mid-1970s that the affair made him lose faith in broker Paul Michelin, Harry Workman and Willie Obront.
Bronfman borrowed big money from Obront by selling 5,000 Seagrams shares.
Airport security
Bronfman claimed to be such a fan of police that he started his own security force at the airport.This did not end well. The RCMP advised against allowing Bronfman's Securex company to do airport security, citing his links to Obront.


Annapolis MP Patrick Nolan told Parliament that former Solicitor General (a post invented to take some files away from the Justice Minister) Francis Fox intervened to allow Bronfman to get the gig in 1972.
At the time about 60 Dorval Airport employees were said to be involved in a gang that brought drugs into the country. Bronfman's Securex lost its contract in the spring of 1975. Bronfman was close to Donald McLeery, who was born within a few months of him and died within a few months of him as well.
McLeery was an RCMP figure who was fired from his top post as an RCMP counter-espionage boss in 1973 for being associated with Bronfman.
Bronfman later gave him a job and protested his innocence, noting that he was so much on the side of police that he'd frequently offer unsolicited tips to cops.

McLeery had also stolen TNT from St. Gregoire in April 1972 in a way to infiltrate the FLQ.
McLeery's partner Gilles Brunet was also considered a victim as he was fired a the same time.
Only after his death in 1984 did the RCMP learn that Brunet had been selling secrets to the Soviets, so the argument for McLeery's victimhood seems a little more tenuous in light of the later revelation that his partner was a mole.
by Kristian Gravenor
https://coolopolis.blogspot.com/2016/12/mitchell-bronfman-montreal-man-of.html



A pillar in the Jewish community in Canada and especially in Montreal, donating millions to McGill University xii .
How could The most lucrative crime boss in North America go "from being the greatest importer of alcohol during prohibition, to one of the most influential Zionists in the world?"
https://www.coursehero.com/file/p4v...cially-in-Montreal-donating-millions-to/
Posted By: thebigfella

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/26/18 07:27 PM

For the record thier are Jewish gangsters and if he wants to talk about them just like we talk about black and Italian gangsters I see nothing wrong with it. The truth of the matter is Jews have been deeply rooted in organized crime since Myer lansky! Admitting that truth don't make you an nazi
Posted By: thebigfella

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/26/18 07:32 PM

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2010/05/man_accused_of_running_the_luc.html&ved=2ahUKEwi61sC8qMTZAhVD2IMKHfZSBzoQFjAAegQICBAB&usg=AOvVaw2fMHgKLSaJkc_nPSWdvdiV
Posted By: thebigfella

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/26/18 07:38 PM

Just Google Brian cohen
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/26/18 08:23 PM

Originally Posted by thebigfella
For the record thier are Jewish gangsters and if he wants to talk about them just like we talk about black and Italian gangsters I see nothing wrong with it. The truth of the matter is Jews have been deeply rooted in organized crime since Myer lansky! Admitting that truth don't make you an nazi


Did you go to General Discussians under the topic "A question for Italian Americans and Irish America" and see this hate literature that he put out there and tell me with a straight face that he is just discussing Jews that are deeply rooted in organized crime like Mayer Lansky.
Posted By: BillyBrizzi

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/26/18 09:16 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment
Originally Posted by thebigfella
For the record thier are Jewish gangsters and if he wants to talk about them just like we talk about black and Italian gangsters I see nothing wrong with it. The truth of the matter is Jews have been deeply rooted in organized crime since Myer lansky! Admitting that truth don't make you an nazi


Did you go to General Discussians under the topic "A question for Italian Americans and Irish America" and see this hate literature that he put out there and tell me with a straight face that he is just discussing Jews that are deeply rooted in organized crime like Mayer Lansky.


Co-signed 100% Ciment.. In my opinion he can say anything he wants, but it is very obvious what his agenda is and I wonder if this thread is the place for it..
Posted By: helenwheels

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/26/18 09:36 PM

Originally Posted by thebigfella
For the record thier are Jewish gangsters and if he wants to talk about them just like we talk about black and Italian gangsters I see nothing wrong with it. The truth of the matter is Jews have been deeply rooted in organized crime since Myer lansky! Admitting that truth don't make you an nazi


Of course there were/are Jewish gangsters.

Thats not why I used the term Nazi, which definitely isn't something I throw out lightly. But when you start to use sources like 'Jew Watch', it speaks for itself.
Posted By: aidanbrexit

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/26/18 09:56 PM

Originally Posted by helenwheels
Originally Posted by thebigfella
For the record thier are Jewish gangsters and if he wants to talk about them just like we talk about black and Italian gangsters I see nothing wrong with it. The truth of the matter is Jews have been deeply rooted in organized crime since Myer lansky! Admitting that truth don't make you an nazi


Of course there were/are Jewish gangsters.

Thats not why I used the term Nazi, which definitely isn't something I throw out lightly. But when you start to use sources like 'Jew Watch', it speaks for itself.


guess Im summoned and a topic with this, so I will respond.

A poster asked why Jews are so hated under the Irish/Italian thread. I quoted Henry Ford, and I also quoted Al Goldstein, Porn Mogul.
I also linked a story On The Bronfman Crime Family from Jewwatch.
I thought that I had explained that Jewwatch was simply a repository, that catalogues news and stories. The site owner is a Librarian with a Masters Degree.
The citation and links on that site came from Seagrams, Slate, Farrakhan Interview, and other places.
Some took and take issue with it. For hurting their feelings, Im sorry.

This site is hopefully an educational site, and I thought that good information was valued.
If you want to equate truth with nazism or any other kind of ism, I suppose thats your right, and Ill be sensitive to that going forward.
Not trying to rustle anyones shorts. Some are wound very tight, but i suppose being a new poster, im suspect.
I have a jewish aunt, who is a great lady, and the only one to make it with my uncle, divroced 3x and an asshole. My best friends wife is jewish. Great lady.
Again, Im sorry for upsetting any members.
Posted By: thebigfella

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/26/18 09:57 PM

I've seen the tittle "general discussions a million times but never clicked on it, I like it
Posted By: thebigfella

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/26/18 10:02 PM

And I see your point, you can't paint a race with a broad brush. If aidanbrexit can show proof of a Jew being connected with organized crime then let the truth speak for itself, all other harmful and racial comments don't belong on these boards
Posted By: thebigfella

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/26/18 10:03 PM

Any pictures of Leonardo rizzuto since his release?
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/26/18 10:12 PM

Originally Posted by thebigfella
Any pictures of Leonardo rizzuto since his release?


Considering most to all the pics we have now, I seriously doubt you'll find any. If I remember right they had a publication ban on their case so you couldn't take pics I'd imagine (don't know Canada laws good enough, maybe Anti can comment) so everything we pretty much have seen is him at court. Outside of funerals and court it's about all we've seen.
Posted By: Turnbull

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/27/18 03:33 AM

There is a big difference between citing history--there were/are Jewish gangsters, just like there were/are Irish gangsters, Italian gangsters, Chinese gangsters, Russian gangsters, etc.--and quoting and continually using self-identifying anti-Semitic---or anti-Catholic, or racist--sources to "prove" the point. The honest, open and informative give-and-take we can have on this and the other boards are ruined by bigotry and bullshit like this.

The mods here welcome controversy but we will not tolerate any kind of bigotry!
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/27/18 07:20 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment
https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/...-the-latest-l-for-quebec-law-enforcement

A Mafia Acquittal Is the Latest L for Quebec Law Enforcement


Acquittal of alleged mobsters due to improper wiretap a lesson for police

https://www.thelawyersdaily.ca/constitutional/articles/5977
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/28/18 12:46 PM

http://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2018/02/27/deces-de-libertina-manno-matriarche-du-clan-rizzuto

The mother of former Montreal Mafia boss Vito Rizzuto, Libertina Manno, passed away at 90
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/28/18 07:04 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment
http://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2018/02/27/deces-de-libertina-manno-matriarche-du-clan-rizzuto

The mother of former Montreal Mafia boss Vito Rizzuto, Libertina Manno, passed away at 90


Link to her obituary notice:

http://www.complexeloreto.com/en/obituary/libertina-manno-rizzuto/

Link to short Italian-language news item:

http://www.agrigentonotizie.it/cronaca/morte-libertina-manno-febbraio-2018.html
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/03/18 08:29 AM

Interesting story about Carlo Colapelle and Nicola Valvano. The latter apparently boasted of being "the king" because no tobacco entered Quebec without his knowledge

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/j...fiquants-quand-la-sq-fait-son-cinema.php
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/03/18 05:09 PM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/03/03/une-page-est-tournee-pour-la-mafia-montrealaise

She was really a woman made for this life
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/04/18 12:11 PM

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/hells-angels-maple-syrup-1.4557656

Top Hells Angels member behind Outaouais syrup enterprise
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/04/18 12:26 PM

The funeral of the matriarch of the Rizzuto clan, yesterday, was an opportunity for some of the tenors of the Montreal underworld to reaffirm their allegiance to the family under a discreet police surveillance.
In the morning, a few hundred people converged on the Notre-Dame-de-la-Défense church to pay a last sober tribute to Libertina Manno, the mother of the late godfather of the Montreal mafia Vito Rizzuto.
Besides his brother Domenico Manno, his daughter Maria Renda and his grandson Leonardo Rizzuto, freshly acquitted of charges, including gangsterism, the close guard and some allies of the clan were well visible.

Antonio Mucci and Antonio Vanelli, two important figures of the mafia since the time of the Cotroni, arrived side by side at the church.
Stefano Sollecito, Nicola Spagnolo and Marco Pizzi, in particular, represented the "new guard".

Those who come to [the funeral] are clearly on the Rizzuto side," says Antonio Nicaso, a professor of organized crime.
The influence of the family on the underworld, although weakened in recent years, remains important, according to him, hence this demonstration of several dominant figures.
The Rizzuto saw Nicolo Jr and Nicolo Sr die by bullets in 2009 and 2010. Paolo Renda, Vito's brother-in-law, disappeared the same year. The sponsor himself died of natural causes in 2013 after a long stay in prison in the United States.
Since, different factions oppose to take control of the mafia.
Construction and politics
Former construction contractors, made famous by the Charbonneau commission, were also present, including Nicolo Milioto.
The political community was not left behind as former federal Liberal Minister Alfonso Gagliano was spotted.
"Both the Italian community of Montreal and the underworld are affected by the death of Libertina Manno," says author and former intelligence analyst Pierre de Champlain.
In the vicinity of the church, which also received the funerals of Nicolò father, shot in 2010, and Vito Rizzuto, died of natural causes in 2013, a discreet police surveillance was exercised.
"The police will notice the present, but especially the absent," said Mr. de Champlain.
He suggests that for security reasons, some factions may have sent emissaries or will simply take the time to call the bereaved family.
At the Loreto funeral complex in Saint-Léonard, huge wreaths framed the room where the family received condolences during the passage of the Journal.

Funeral wreaths are often a good indicator of the links between clans, "says Nicaso.
The authorities will certainly have taken the time to take a look ahead.
One of the cars of the funeral procession had an immense bouquet identified to the Vanelli family, demonstrating their proximity to the Rizzuto.

PRESENTS YESTERDAY

Antonio (Tony) Mucci
Convicted of the attempted murder of Jean-Pierre Charbonneau, the journalist of Le Devoir newspaper in 1973. Mucci was the victim of an assassination attempt in 2007. He is considered by the police to be the head of the his own clan in the mafia. He was released from weapons possession charges in 2015.
Antonio (Tony) Vanelli
A figure of the underworld since the 1970s, he had pledged allegiance to the Cotroni before joining the Rizzuto when they took control of the Montreal mafia. Close to godfather Vito Rizzuto, he is considered a man of honor. He has also been the target of an attempted murder in recent years.

Domenico Manno
Le beau-frère de Nicolo (Nick) Rizzuto avait plaidé coupable à la fin des années 1970 à une accusation de complot dans le meurtre du parrain de l’époque, Paolo Violi. Sa mort avait laissé le champ libre aux Siciliens pour prendre le contrôle de la mafia montréalaise. Il avait écopé d’une lourde peine de prison aux États-Unis pour trafic de stupéfiants avant d’être libéré en 2012.

Nicolo Milioto
Ex-contractor in construction in the field of sidewalks. His testimony to the Charbonneau commission had made the commissioners go out of their hinges. In particular, he had been filmed by the police at the Consenza café while handing large sums of money hidden in his socks to Rocco Sollecito, a loyal lieutenant of Nicolò Rizzuto.

Alfonso Gagliano
A former Liberal Minister of Public Works and linked to the sponsorship scandal, he was a member of Parliament in Saint-Léonard from 1984 to 2002. He denied the allegations of an FBI informer who stated in 2004 that Gagliano was a long-time soldier Bonnano. In 1994, he also had to defend his links with Agostino [BadWord], for whom he would have done accounting. [BadWord] was also sentenced in connection with the murder of Paolo Violi.

From: http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/03/04/tenors-loyaux-aux-rizzuto
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/04/18 12:29 PM

Mafioso's family Tony Vanelli had sent a huge wreath of flowers yesterday for the funeral.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/04/18 11:52 PM

Tony Mucci at the funeral.

http://storage.journaldemontreal.co...quality=80&version=22&size=1200x
Posted By: thebigfella

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/06/18 10:10 PM

Is that the only picture from the funeral?
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/06/18 11:42 PM

Originally Posted by thebigfella
Is that the only picture from the funeral?


Here are more among them Domenico Manno.

http://comunicalo.it/2018/03/04/fed...portanti-al-funerale-di-libertina-manno/
Posted By: thebigfella

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/06/18 11:53 PM

Still no pictures f Leonardo rizzuto???
Posted By: cdn_wiseguy

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/07/18 12:29 AM

Here's a video that shows Leonardo Rizzuto and other close family members leaving the church (other than Leonardo, Charlie Renda (Paulo's son) and Domenico Manno are visible)

http://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2018/03/03/funerailles-sobres-pour-la-matriarche-de-la-mafia-montrealaise
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/12/18 07:53 PM


http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montr...el-street-men-s-clothing-store-1.4572617

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2015/05/18/mysterieux-marchand-de-vetements-en-eaux-troubles

Man shot, assailant drops gun fleeing Peel Street men's clothing store.

Tony Elian the owner of the clothing store Giorgio Gruppo Roma has links to Vito Rizzuto, Joseph Ducarme and other members of organized crime.
They had even burned his car parked in front of his Westmount home.
Posted By: The_Rooster

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/12/18 08:28 PM

Revenge by the Rizzutos or Attrition by Ndraghenta?
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/12/18 10:29 PM

The businessman of Lebanese origin was present at the funeral of Vito.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/13/18 05:42 PM

http://montrealgazette.com/news/loc...-boutique-that-was-firebombed-a-year-ago

Man shot in Peel St. boutique that was firebombed a year ago

Police said a masked man entered the store and fired once at the victim. Elian, who is in his 60s, was shot in the lower body. He was taken to hospital, but police do not fear for his life.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/13/18 05:47 PM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/j...156972-un-message-passe-a-coup-de-12.php

12 gauge message for the owner.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/13/18 07:04 PM

http://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2018/03/13/un-homme-retrouve-sans-vie-dans-larrondissement-de-lasalle

The owner of a Montreal brewery murdered.

The owner of a brewery in the LaSalle borough with links to the Italian mafia in Montreal was shot dead Tuesday morning in a commercial garage.

Emergency services were called Tuesday morning around 9:50 am in the garage near a small commercial complex, at the corner of Newman Boulevard and Lapierre Street.
They discovered Mario Macri, 44, unconscious. The businessman, owner of Brasserie des Rapides with other members of his family, had been hit by at least one projectile on his upper body.

According to Urgences-santé, resuscitation maneuvers were performed on the victim, but were later abandoned.

His death was found on the spot.

By mid-afternoon, the Montreal police had dispatched their mobile command post to the scene and major crime investigators were busy meeting potential witnesses to try to understand the circumstances surrounding this case.

Forensic identification technicians were also on hand to analyze the crime scene and collect as many clues as possible.

According to the police, no one would have witnessed the murder directly. As for the shooter, he fled before the police arrived and has not yet been arrested.

Mario Macri has become the fifth murder victim in Montreal since the beginning of the year.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/13/18 08:24 PM

Related to the killed Domenico Macri?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/13/18 08:46 PM

I do not know if they were related but this is what I found about them. Some of these people connect with one another.

http://coolopolis.blogspot.ca/2013/07/nite-lite-double-murders-whappen.html

http://yamedia.ca/the-lasalle-brasserie-des-rapides-gives-back-to-the-community/

http://montrealgazette.com/news/men...erial-linked-to-hells-angels-puppet-gang
Posted By: mike68

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/14/18 04:29 PM

Is this right out of the Godfather where they waited until after the matriarch's funeral to start the fighting back up again?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/15/18 06:22 PM

http://lesfrancstireurs.telequebec.tv/episodes/38241

French interview with crime journalists Cedilot, Richer and Thibault.

I took some notes, they say that:

Hells Angels control 90 % of Quebec organized crime

-Hells have 80 Full patched members and 180 members in the MC support gangs.

-They deal mostly in Cocaine and synthetic drugs. Asian mafia deals mostly in pot destined for the U.S
- They formed alliances with the Mafia, Irish mafia and street gangs. The mafia because of the internal war is fractionned into cells. The street gangs do the dirty work like using molotov's to burn places, intimidation tactics and hits.
-The Hells use their patches as show of force & power and also dress in suits when involved in legit businesses, dealing with bankers, lawyers,politicians and other.
-other organized crime groups in Montreal are Lebanese, Turks, Vietnamese, Chinese,Latino's and Russians. Some of them deal in marketing scams, fraud. Buying guns and drugs on the dark web.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/15/18 11:34 PM

http://www.journaldequebec.com/2018...ement-de-lasalle-il-sagirait-dun-meurtre


Mario Macri has reportedly been associated with a prominent member of the Irish underworld, Jamie Laramée, in his finance company, according to a decision made by the Liquor, Racing and Gaming Authority (RACJ) in 2009.

Jamie Laramée and his brother Cody were shot dead in 2013 in a bar on Newman Boulevard, which police were then linking to the Hells Angels and which was located near the offices of Mario Macri.

It was also his company that financed the mortgage for the condo where the influential Hells Angel Normand "Casper" Ouimet lived before his arrest during the SharQc and Diligence police operations. This condo, which did not belong to the biker, was located in the prestigious building of 1000 de la Commune East, in Montreal.

Police sources are also linking Mario Macri to the Italian mafia, which was experiencing a lull before this week.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/16/18 11:57 AM

Originally Posted by Ciment


Hells Angels control 90 % of Quebec organized crime


All the others should retire.
Posted By: The_Rooster

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/16/18 12:24 PM

How do they possibly come up with 90% or any percent for that matter, very far stretched
Posted By: m2w

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/16/18 03:16 PM

Quote
The Hells use their patches as show of force & power and also dress in suits when involved in legit businesses, dealing with bankers, lawyers,politicians and other.


italian mafia has political connections at high level in canada, i doubt hells have this kind of connections
Posted By: Moscone65

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/16/18 05:26 PM

I don't think the hells have the sophistication of the mob yet, or possibly ever.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/16/18 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by The_Rooster
How do they possibly come up with 90% or any percent for that matter, very far stretched


I don't know how they arrived at 90% but like everyone else I am just trying to rationalize their position on this.

I could be mistaken but I believe they base this on mass area. Support MC gangs have been popping up in many rural areas where the Mafia is not present.



Posted By: m2w

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/17/18 04:12 PM

Quote
Italians are patsys and scapegoats. Hollywood BS.


the minister alfonso gagliano is close to sicilian mafia, if not a member
italian mafia has tons of connections with politicians and businessmen in canada for public works, waste disposal etc.
Posted By: Moscone65

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/17/18 04:56 PM

Aiden is just a troll, dont really pay attention to that stuff.
Posted By: spartan

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/18/18 09:56 AM

Originally Posted by m2w
Quote
Italians are patsys and scapegoats. Hollywood BS.


the minister alfonso gagliano is close to sicilian mafia, if not a member
italian mafia has tons of connections with politicians and businessmen in canada for public works, waste disposal etc.



Former minister, a long time ago. Nothing was ever proven. He simply came from a certain town in Sicily.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/18/18 01:42 PM

Link to Spanish-language article for BBC Mundo is a bit farther below. Given that the article mentions there are a number of factions and splinter groups within the Montreal Mafia, I'm not sure why the headline asserts that the organization is controlled by the Rizzuto family. There is an error toward the end of the article (seven paragraphs from the bottom), where "Nicola Milano" is mentioned as a murder victim--I'm fairly certain the author was referring to Nick Rizzuto Jr. Otherwise, some good quotes from organized-crime authors Antonio NIcaso and Pierre de Champlain, as well as from Nicodemo Milano, who now heads the organized-crime division of the SPVM (Montreal police service)--Milano used to be a Detective-Sergeant with the SPVM.

http://www.bbc.com/mundo/noticias-internacional-43425444
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/19/18 12:48 PM

Attempted murder in Saint-Léonard: mysterious customers still unidentified
According to the SPVM, Girard Anglade is "linked to Italian organized crime, bikers and red and blue street gangs.

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/j...ieux-clients-toujours-non-identifies.php
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/21/18 10:20 AM

http://www.news.com.au/national/cou...s-story/6180e32c11087bdf615fd726d743aba0

Youngest of Canadian cocaine trio who imported 95kg ‘recruited by sugar daddy’
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/21/18 10:26 AM

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/four-plead-guilty-in-series-of-armed-bank-robberies

Four plead guilty in series of armed bank robberies
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/21/18 10:01 PM

Francesco Arcadi was released from prison on March 9.

Retraite à domicile pour un ex-chef de la mafia

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/03/21/retraite-a-domicile-pour-un-ex-chef-de-la-mafia
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/22/18 07:37 PM

Rizzuto acquitté de gangstérisme: la Couronne ne fera pas appel

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/20...terisme-la-couronne-ne-portera-pas-appel
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/23/18 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment


Originally Posted by Ciment
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montr...el-street-men-s-clothing-store-1.4572617

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2015/05/18/mysterieux-marchand-de-vetements-en-eaux-troubles

Man shot, assailant drops gun fleeing Peel Street men's clothing store.

Tony Elian the owner of the clothing store Giorgio Gruppo Roma has links to Vito Rizzuto, Joseph Ducarme and other members of organized crime.
They had even burned his car parked in front of his Westmount home.


Coup de 12 tiré en plein jour au centre-ville : un homme accusé

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/j...jour-au-centre-ville-un-homme-accuse.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/23/18 12:21 PM

Mafia montréalaise: pénitence de trois mois pour Danny De Gregorio

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/j...de-trois-mois-pour-danny-de-gregorio.php
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/24/18 11:37 AM

Contraband Tobacco: Part of the profits went to the Violi clan

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/j...s-profits-serait-allee-au-clan-violi.php
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/24/18 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Contraband Tobacco: Part of the profits went to the Violi clan

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/j...s-profits-serait-allee-au-clan-violi.php


This ends the speculation about whether the Violi's sons from Hamilton, were involved in Montreal's organized crime affairs.
Domenico Agostino mentioned in the article is a close associate of Sergio Piccirilli.
Sergio was the one who join forces with the D'Amico's.
The Ontario clans did back opponents of the Rizzuto's.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/24/18 01:27 PM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/03/22/vaste-frappe-contre-le-tabac-illegal

More on the tobacco smuggling:

Huge strike against illegal tobacco
Smugglers traveled through the United States and Ontario before returning to Quebec.

A smuggling network of smugglers whose goods traveled more than 3000 km across Canada and the United States and which allowed the Italian mafia to fill put their pockets was dismantled yesterday by the Sûreté du Québec.
n total, 14 people who are suspected of being involved in this fraud were arrested yesterday morning. Among them, we find the presumed head of the network, Domenico Agostino, and his accomplice Domenico Cocullo. Men aged 48 and 39 are close to the Italian mafia, especially the Calabrian clan, according to our information.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/24/18 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Francesco Arcadi was released from prison on March 9.

Retraite à domicile pour un ex-chef de la mafia

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/03/21/retraite-a-domicile-pour-un-ex-chef-de-la-mafia


http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/j...clan-rizzuto-peut-retourner-chez-lui.php

According to La Presse:


At that time, Arcadi said he was not afraid for his life yet his exit plan was to settle far from Montreal, to settle in a residence protected by a grid and cameras "to control the comings and goings. visitors, and avoid the unwanted, "maintain a garden and lead a peaceful life, surrounded by his children and grandchildren.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/24/18 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment
Originally Posted by Hollander
Contraband Tobacco: Part of the profits went to the Violi clan

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/j...s-profits-serait-allee-au-clan-violi.php


This ends the speculation about whether the Violi's sons from Hamilton, were involved in Montreal's organized crime affairs.
Domenico Agostino mentioned in the article is a close associate of Sergio Piccirilli.
Sergio was the one who join forces with the D'Amico's.
The Ontario clans did back opponents of the Rizzuto's.


Pretty old school those cigarettes more lucrative than coke lol. I recall Sergio was close to the natives pretty tough themselves.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/24/18 05:02 PM

I thought Arcadi had been out longer than that?

Things should be heating up with Arcadi, Rizzuto and Sollecito being back on the streets. Del Balso too.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/24/18 05:56 PM

Man charged with downtown Montreal shooting carried out in broad daylight

http://montrealgazette.com/news/man...l-shooting-carried-out-in-broad-daylight
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/29/18 09:22 PM

More on the Nesparolis.

At the end of July, the Court of Quebec pronounces its judgment against the Nesparoli family, close to the boss Sergio Piccirilli. The father, Sergio Nesparoli, 74, and one of his sons, Sergio Junior, 37, are sentenced: 12 months under conditions for possession of weapons for the father and 36 months in prison for the son for possession of weapons and drug trafficking. The time spent in pretrial detention counting for "1.5", Petardi and Nesparoli Junior had only ONE day of prison to perform.
The Nesparoli and their accomplices were arrested on August 11, 2015. Sergio Nesparoli Junior and Michael Petardi were members of the "Devils Ghosts" club, affiliated with the Hells Angels. Gino was wounded in July 2013 during the shooting at the Nite Life Bar (former Nesparoli property), which killed 37-year-old Jamie Laramée, who is considered the replacement for the West End Gang.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/31/18 01:28 PM

Two articles respectively published yesterday and today regarding contraband, or illegal, tobacco:

Federal, provincial governments target illegal tobacco with new funding
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/can...ernments-target-illegal-tobacco-with-new

The RCMP has estimated that there are roughly 175 organized-crime groups in Canada with ties to the illicit tobacco market.

Earlier this month, the Sûreté du Québec announced the takedown of a mass tobacco-importation scheme that they allege had ties to Italian and Indigenous organized-crime groups.

Project Olios, which began in June of 2016 and was conducted in partnership with the Canada Border Services Agency and partners on both sides of the border, focused on individuals illegally importing tobacco from the United States, through the Lansdowne and Fort Erie border crossings, to be sold on the Kahnawake territory in Quebec.

__________________

Organized crime behind contraband tobacco costs governments billions
http://ctv.news/A6xXsMP

Dubbed ‘Project Mygale,’ the nearly two-year-long operation tracked raw tobacco that was purchased in the United States, smuggled into Canada at three separate border crossings, and turned into cigarettes at manufacturing plants on First Nations reserves in Ontario and Quebec.

...

Watch W5's 'Smoke Rings' Saturday at 7 p.m. on CTV. The documentary will become available in our video player above after 8 p.m., and later on as well on W5's official YouTube channel.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/03/18 11:23 PM

A rising star in the HA organization received his "patches" after being targeted by searches. Daniel André Giroux was observed by police while wearing his new full-patch member jacket of the Montreal division earlier this month, Le Journal said .

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/04/02/il-monte-en-grade-avec-les-hells
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/06/18 09:44 PM

http://montrealgazette.com/news/jur...-alleged-plot-to-kill-raynald-desjardins

Jury selection set to begin in case involving alleged plot to kill Raynald Desjardins
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/06/18 11:06 PM

I wonder what they have on him since they can't use anything that came from Rizzuto/Sollecito. I'm interested in what the prosecution says too about their arrangement.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/07/18 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by dixiemafia
I wonder what they have on him since they can't use anything that came from Rizzuto/Sollecito. I'm interested in what the prosecution says too about their arrangement.


dix,

When Loris Cavaliere pleaded guilty, anyone who was in the courtroom at the time was prevented, because of a publication ban, from naming the individuals who were holding meetings in a room in Cavaliere's law offices to discuss "money laundering, payment of rent for (the permission) to sell drugs, collection of money and the possibility of using violence to solve different problems.” Paul Cherry of the Montreal Gazette used that quote in his article about Cavaliere's release to a halfway house--the quote itself is from the summary of facts read into the court record when Cavaliere pled guilty. Cherry is one of a number of journalists who reported that Cavaliere was present for a lot of the meetings.

We don't know whether "the possibility of using violence to solve different problems" means plotting the murder of Raynald Desjardins. However, I am quite doubtful because, if the plot had been discussed, Stefano Sollecito and Leonardo Rizzuto, along with others in those meetings, would also have been charged back in November 2015 with conspiring to murder Desjardins.

Gregory Woolley and Boucher's daughter, Alexandra Mongeau, are the other two people specifically charged with conspiracy to murder Desjardins. Could Woolley have been participating in those meetings at Cavaliere's law offices? Yes. However, the police allege that Boucher and his daughter discussed the murder plot when she would visit him in prison, and she in turn would convey the messages to Woolley at some point every time after she left. I'm not sure why Boucher and his daughter thought that talking in code during her prison visits to him wouldn't or couldn't be deciphered by prison officials--it is a given that the officials were listening in.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/07/18 05:24 PM

Oh yea Mom knew he was being recorded, he had to. I was hoping there wasn't a publication ban on anything but most Canadian laws still confuse me. Thanks for explaining it. I just think there are more involved other than Mom, his daughter and Wooley. I don't understand why the Hells Angels would want Desjardins dead unless Rizzuto/Sollecito went through them? Maybe we'll get something after the trial, does Canada generally take the ban off "after" the trial?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/11/18 04:15 PM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/04/10/le-fils-de-cotroni-condamne-a-20mois

Cotroni's son sentenced to 20 months
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/14/18 12:34 PM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/04/13/reglement-de-compte-pour-une-dette-dargent

Settling an account for a debt of money
The two young victims linked to organized crime were shot in the car parked behind a brewery on Bernard-Pilon Street in Beloeil on Thursday night.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/14/18 08:37 PM

Interesting that the 2nd guy lived. If he lives, does he turn?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/17/18 12:43 PM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/04/16/une-usineremplie-darmes-prohibees

A weapons factory for criminals in Montreal
Company executives reportedly told their employees that they were more like paintball guns
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/17/18 12:52 PM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/j...05-crime-organise-tueurs-a-tout-prix.php

Organized crime: killers at all costs.

They have no loyalty except to money. They can commit an assassination at the request of an organized crime individual and turn against him the following week. They use sophisticated means, such as GPS, to know the habits of their targets, but can also be rough. They would be at least half a dozen in Quebec. These are the hitmen, version 2018.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/17/18 12:56 PM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/j...es-dextorsion-recherchees-a-montreal.php

Extortion victims wanted in Montreal

Two men arrested for extortion over $ 30,000 may have killed other victims, believe investigators from the Montreal Police Department, who ask anyone who had a similar experience with Claudio Lapolla or Mario Ruscitti to come forward.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/17/18 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by Ciment
http://montrealgazette.com/news/jur...-alleged-plot-to-kill-raynald-desjardins

Jury selection set to begin in case involving alleged plot to kill Raynald Desjardins


Ex-Hells leader 'Mom' Boucher pleads guilty to jailhouse plot to kill Raynald Desjardins

http://montrealgazette.com/news/ex-...ilhouse-plot-to-kill-raynald-desjardins/
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/17/18 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia

Originally Posted by Ciment
http://montrealgazette.com/news/jur...-alleged-plot-to-kill-raynald-desjardins

Jury selection set to begin in case involving alleged plot to kill Raynald Desjardins


Ex-Hells leader 'Mom' Boucher pleads guilty to jailhouse plot to kill Raynald Desjardins

http://montrealgazette.com/news/ex-...ilhouse-plot-to-kill-raynald-desjardins/


I bet he done it to get his daughter off even though they don't mention it, plus what are they going to do to Mom? He's already in for life.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/17/18 07:16 PM

^^^^
Maurice «Mom» Boucher plaide coupable de complot pour meurtre:

http://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2018/04/...t-pour-meurtre-contre-raynald-desjardins
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/17/18 08:34 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment
http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/j...es-dextorsion-recherchees-a-montreal.php

Extortion victims wanted in Montreal

Two men arrested for extortion over $ 30,000 may have killed other victims, believe investigators from the Montreal Police Department, who ask anyone who had a similar experience with Claudio Lapolla or Mario Ruscitti to come forward.



Claudio may be related to Mike Lapolla murdered in 2005.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/17/18 09:44 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
^^^^
Maurice «Mom» Boucher plaide coupable de complot pour meurtre:

http://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2018/04/...t-pour-meurtre-contre-raynald-desjardins


'Mom' Boucher used code, hand gestures to plan jailhouse killing

http://montrealgazette.com/news/loc...ilhouse-plot-to-kill-raynald-desjardins/
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/17/18 10:28 PM

^^^^
Maurice Boucher plaide coupable de complot pour meurtre

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/j...ide-coupable-de-complot-pour-meurtre.php
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/18/18 12:07 PM

https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/1095720/cocaine-australie-condamnation-quebecois-melina-roberge

Mélina Roberge sentenced to 8 years in prison for importing cocaine into Australia
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/19/18 12:58 AM

http://aboutthemafia.com/rizzuto-family-still-a-key-player-in-montreal-mafia

Rizzuto family still a key player in Montreal Mafia?
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/20/18 02:51 PM

Lawyer Loris Cavaliere barred, for life, from practising law.

L’avocat déchu de la mafia accepte la radiation à vie

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/04/19/lavocat-dechu-de-la-mafia-accepte-la-radiation-a-vie
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/20/18 04:25 PM

Damn that's crazy. He seemed to have been a pretty good defense lawyer too.

I'd kill to see what is being said on those wiretaps.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/20/18 06:16 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Rizzuto acquitté de gangstérisme: la Couronne ne fera pas appel

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/20...terisme-la-couronne-ne-portera-pas-appel


Un procès pour Leonardo Rizzuto

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/j...1869-un-proces-pour-leonardo-rizzuto.php
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/22/18 09:52 PM

Would only make sense that if the raid of his house was from the wire taps, then that would be an illegal search as well?
Posted By: pmac

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/23/18 12:22 AM

in america that would be fruits of the poisonous tree. a violation of the 4th amendant illegal search n seizure stuff. lawyer files the motion ect. dont know how it works up there but im guessing its the same. evidence should be thrown out, case dropped lack of evidence. they dont take illegal handguns lightly in canada i think its like 5yrs.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/30/18 11:08 PM

Court date set in home invasion of Montreal Mafia leader

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/court-date-set-in-home-invasion-of-montreal-mafia-leader/
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/03/18 10:34 PM

http://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2018/05/03/un-garde-du-corps-envoye-en-prison-1

A former professional boxer turned driver and bodyguard of a mafia-related entrepreneur has just been sentenced to 10 months in jail after wanting to play matamore with the Montreal police.

Richard Zarbatany, who was responsible for the safety of businessman Tony Magi, was also banned from driving for three years under his conviction that he failed to have the Court annul in April.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/04/18 12:19 PM

I'm not sure you could pay me enough to protect Tony Magi.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/04/18 12:38 PM


I'm surprised he is still alive.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/08/18 09:07 PM

Attempted murder in downtown Montreal Yesterday. The victim is Bernardin Polynice, 33, a member of the Rouges (Bloods) who has a very heavy criminal past. No arrest has yet been made in this case.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/08/18 09:43 PM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/j...ia-une-ligne-de-plus-en-plus-diffuse.php

Brunetti is not the last to come. He already had been Hells Angels in the past, left their ranks and redid the process to regain his colors. But above all Brunetti has already been considered by police sources almost as a member of the Italian mafia of Montreal. "He could even have his own family, an offer in this sense would have been made," said a source who requested anonymity.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/09/18 12:32 PM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/20...-hells-a-echappe-au-tueur-gerald-gallant

The 66-year-old Hells Angels "rookie" has already escaped the formidable hitman, Gerald Gallant, who had the contract to kill him even though he thought he was friendly.

While still part of the Alliance, Brunetti approached two influential Hells he knew, Louis "Melou" Roy and Yvon "Bagosse" Tanguay, to express his wish to change sides in 1999.

According to ex-biker Sylvain Boulanger, their boss Maurice "Mom" Boucher would have participated in the meeting. Brunetti was then offered to help the Hells give the coup de grace to their rivals.

"The purpose of the meeting was to propose to Brunetti that he bring together five big names from the Rock Machine in a place where they would be killed. But he refused, "the SQ told Sharqc.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/11/18 11:57 AM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/j...-maurice-boucher-plaiderait-coupable.php

Alexandra Mongeau, daughter of the former Hells Angels warrior chief Maurice Boucher, is expected to plead guilty this morning to the charges - or to some of them - brought against her since her arrest in November 2015, in the wake of an important police operation against organized crime in Montreal.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/11/18 12:08 PM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/05/11/un-montrealais-ecope-de-15-ans

Conspiracy to import cocaine: a Montrealer gets 15 years
Real estate broker and his accomplices have tried to import tons of cocaine into Canada.
This network, whose members were divided between Western Canada and the Maritimes, counted six Quebecers, was infiltrated by a double agent of the RCMP between the fall of 2014 and the spring of 2015.

The dual agent has become one of their partners in claiming to operate a boat brokerage business that can smuggle narcotics between the Caribbean and Canada.

The mole had meetings in Toronto and Montreal with Tello, Ontario's Matthew Fleming and Quebecer Michael Dibben, a close friend of the West gang, who has already been jailed in the United States for a coke import with Salvatore Cazzetta, the former leader of the Hells Angels.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/11/18 01:13 PM

Andrea Scoppa is likely to be released from jail this morning.

Mafia : un important chef de clan libéré

http://plus.lapresse.ca/screens/f1c76c9b-77e0-4071-996e-94de860c9d63__7C___0.html
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/11/18 02:33 PM

^^^^
Two more articles about this:

Les accusations contre Andrew Scoppa pourraient tomber

http://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2018/05/11/les-accusations-contre-andrew-scoppa-pourraient-tomber

Arrêt des procédures contre un leader mafieux

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/05/11/arret-des-procedures-contre-un-leader-mafieux
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/11/18 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Andrea Scoppa is likely to be released from jail this morning.

Mafia : un important chef de clan libéré

http://plus.lapresse.ca/screens/f1c76c9b-77e0-4071-996e-94de860c9d63__7C___0.html


Update to Daniel Renaud's article:

L'important chef de clan de la mafia Andrew Scoppa libéré

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/j...lan-de-la-mafia-andrew-scoppa-libere.php
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/11/18 03:17 PM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/j...-boucher-condamne-a-10-ans-de-prison.php

Maurice Boucher sentenced to 10 years in prison

Justice Eric Downs has just sentenced Maurice Boucher to 10 years in prison for the murder plot against Raynald Desjardins, to which he pleaded guilty a few weeks ago. This sentence will be concurrent with that of life imprisonment that he is already serving for the murders of two prison guards.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/11/18 03:29 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment
http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/j...-maurice-boucher-plaiderait-coupable.php

Alexandra Mongeau, daughter of the former Hells Angels warrior chief Maurice Boucher, is expected to plead guilty this morning to the charges - or to some of them - brought against her since her arrest in November 2015, in the wake of an important police operation against organized crime in Montreal.



She was acquitted on the charge of conspiracy to murder Desjardins. She pled guilty to the charge of possession of more than $5,000 obtained from the proceeds of crime.

La fille de Maurice Boucher plaide coupable à une accusation

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/j...her-plaide-coupable-a-une-accusation.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/11/18 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment
http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/j...-boucher-condamne-a-10-ans-de-prison.php

Maurice Boucher sentenced to 10 years in prison

Justice Eric Downs has just sentenced Maurice Boucher to 10 years in prison for the murder plot against Raynald Desjardins, to which he pleaded guilty a few weeks ago. This sentence will be concurrent with that of life imprisonment that he is already serving for the murders of two prison guards.


'Mom' Boucher to serve 10 years for plot to kill Montreal Mafia figure

http://montrealgazette.com/news/mom...-for-plot-to-kill-montreal-mafia-figure/
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/12/18 02:39 PM

http://montrealgazette.com/news/all...-prosecution-drops-drug-trafficking-case

Alleged Mafia leader free after prosecution drops drug trafficking case.

There are interesting details in this article about recordings.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/12/18 03:15 PM

^^^^
That is one of the best articles I've read all year.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/13/18 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
^^^^
That is one of the best articles I've read all year.



I agree, it remains to see whether the warring will resume.
It also confirms that the Montreal mafia is split possibly between at least two or more factions.
What I find also interesting is that all the Mafia factions have close ties to the Hells.
Posted By: m2w

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/13/18 05:18 PM

Quote
What I find also interesting is that all the Mafia factions have close ties to the Hells.


the hells probably are waiting italian mafia backs centalized like it used to be, but they work with all factions for drugs
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/14/18 07:06 PM

A man shot in Montreal

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/05/14/un-homme-atteint-par-balle-a-montreal-2
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/14/18 08:25 PM

According to our sources, the victim in this case is Samy Mokaddem, a 39-year-old Plateau Mont-Royal resident who was arrested last year for extortion, intimidation and assault. He was waiting for trial. He was taken to the hospital and is feared for his life.

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/j...par-balle-au-volant-dune-decapotable.php
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/15/18 07:11 AM

The guy shot in Little Italy might be Lebanese.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/15/18 01:48 PM

http://aboutthemafia.com/montreal-mafia-at-a-crossroads-with-release-of-another-key-figure

Montreal Mafia at a crossroads with release of another key figure
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/15/18 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by Hollander
The guy shot in Little Italy might be Lebanese.


He is Algerian.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/15/18 11:11 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment
Originally Posted by Hollander
The guy shot in Little Italy might be Lebanese.


He is Algerian.


Yeah, I read he has connections to a "rising figure' in organized crime in Quebec.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/16/18 11:46 AM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/05/15/la-victime-payait-cash-et-aimait-le-luxe

Shot at close range: victim paid "cash" and liked luxury.

The owner of a luxurious white convertible that was seriously wounded by a shooter Monday afternoon in Montreal seemed to be riding on gold and living dangerously.

Samy Kaci Mokaddem, active in lending and private investment, but also targeted by a police investigation for fraud, was still hospitalized in critical condition Tuesday night.

This French national was hit by "at least one projectile in the upper body", according to the SPVM, while sitting at the wheel of his gleaming Bentley parked in front of a business in the Rosemont district.


The gunman fled, leaving his gun on the spot, in the manner of settling accounts with the signature of the organized crime.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/16/18 10:54 PM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/j...me-abattu-dans-sa-bentley-est-decede.php

The man shot in his Bentley is dead.
The 39-year-old with at least one bullet in his head while sitting aboard his Bentley convertible in Montreal Monday died of his injuries, La Presse said . According to our information, Samy Mokaddem was artificially kept alive since the events occurred in broad daylight, under a bright sun, around 13:30 on Monday, on Bélanger Street.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/17/18 02:28 PM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/20...ime-lie-a-la-mafia-et-la-pegreirlandaise

The man shot at close range in his gleaming convertible in Montreal Monday had a new companion whose father-in-law is linked to both the Italian mafia and the Irish underworld, according to our sources.

The father-in-law held an important position in a chain that imported cocaine into the country and received a heavy jail sentence in 2009. The Montreal police investigators (SPVM) will try to determine if there is a link between this information and aggression.
Posted By: housepainter

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/17/18 02:40 PM

So who is the father in law? Anyone have a guess?
Posted By: horse_face

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/17/18 07:19 PM

Khano or Torre
both arrested in 2009 and received long jail sentences
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/17/18 09:21 PM



I wonder which city many tough places in France.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/17/18 11:06 PM

The guy is also into the legal marijuana business.
Posted By: housepainter

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/18/18 12:50 AM

Didn't think Khano was Italian... although they mentioned Italian mafia... not an actual Italian.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/19/18 03:50 AM

Originally Posted by housepainter
Didn't think Khano was Italian... although they mentioned Italian mafia... not an actual Italian.


Kahno was once quoted as being of Arab descent. He speaks several languages including Italian.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/19/18 11:49 PM

http://gangstersinc.ning.com/profil...g-the-u-s-with-dope#.WwA2NsMERDk.twitter

The Canadian Connection: Flooding the U.S. with dope
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/19/18 11:50 PM

Don't think Torre or Khano are old enough to be father-in-law to a 39 year old.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/22/18 10:36 PM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/05/22/un-commercant-blesse-par-balle-blame-les-medias

A little over two months after he was shot and wounded when his business was shot by a gunman with a shotgun , the owner is struggling to recover.

Tony Elian, owner of the Giorgio Gruppo Roma clothing store on Peel Street in downtown Montreal, is back at work. He is ailing and sits in a wheelchair since he is still wounded in his left foot.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/25/18 11:20 AM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/j...-de-ducarme-joseph-et-dautres-crimes.php

Perfection Metal Trial: pistols used for the murder of Ducarme Joseph and other crimes.

Machine guns made by Perfection Metal, two of whose bosses have been on trial for a month, have been used in murders and attempted murder related to organized crime in recent years in Montreal and elsewhere. The most famous of these crimes is the assassination of the gang leader Ducarme Joseph killed in 2014. The jurors do not know all these details which can now be revealed since they are sequestered for their deliberations since yesterday.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/25/18 12:10 PM

Alain Charron has already been convicted. He has ties to the 81s, mafia, and West End Gang.
___________________

Crown seeks 7-year prison term for well-connected drug smuggler

http://montrealgazette.com/news/loc...n-term-for-well-connected-drug-smuggler/
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/28/18 08:23 PM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/j...ta-exige-2-millions-en-dedommagement.php

HA biker Salvatore Cazzetta demands 2 million in compensation

The influential Hells Angel Salvatore Cazzetta sued the authorities and demanded two million dollars in compensation from those who accused him "unfairly" of being involved in the sale of cocaine in Hochelaga-Maisonneuve, which caused him stress, anguish , anxiety and insecurity.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/28/18 08:25 PM

http://montrealgazette.com/news/loc...atore-cazzetta-sues-quebec-for-2-million

Alleged Hells Angels leader Salvatore Cazzetta sues Quebec for $2 million
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/29/18 01:39 AM

Originally Posted by Ciment
http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/j...-de-ducarme-joseph-et-dautres-crimes.php

Perfection Metal Trial: pistols used for the murder of Ducarme Joseph and other crimes.

Machine guns made by Perfection Metal, two of whose bosses have been on trial for a month, have been used in murders and attempted murder related to organized crime in recent years in Montreal and elsewhere. The most famous of these crimes is the assassination of the gang leader Ducarme Joseph killed in 2014. The jurors do not know all these details which can now be revealed since they are sequestered for their deliberations since yesterday.


Peter Edwards of the Toronto Star and Daniel Renaud of La Presse share the byline for the article linked to below.

These guns were used in GTA crimes. Their manufacturer said he thought they were for paintball

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/20...-he-thought-they-were-for-paintball.html
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/30/18 11:35 AM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/05/30/un-resto-repaire-pour-tous-les-groupes-criminalises

The Montreal police has urgently obtained the suspension of the liquor license of a restaurant in Chinatown considered a haunt for "all criminal groups in the city" and where a sustained shootout occurred recently in front of passersby.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/30/18 11:11 PM

http://montrealgazette.com/news/loc...r-loris-cavaliere-is-granted-full-parole

Montreal Mob-tied lawyer Loris Cavaliere is granted full parole
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/05/18 06:10 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Originally Posted by Ciment
http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/j...-boucher-condamne-a-10-ans-de-prison.php

Maurice Boucher sentenced to 10 years in prison

Justice Eric Downs has just sentenced Maurice Boucher to 10 years in prison for the murder plot against Raynald Desjardins, to which he pleaded guilty a few weeks ago. This sentence will be concurrent with that of life imprisonment that he is already serving for the murders of two prison guards.


'Mom' Boucher to serve 10 years for plot to kill Montreal Mafia figure

http://montrealgazette.com/news/mom...-for-plot-to-kill-montreal-mafia-figure/


Des vidéos compromettantes pour Maurice Boucher

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/j...compromettantes-pour-maurice-boucher.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/05/18 11:12 PM

^^^^
Maurice Boucher's veiled conversations on failed murder plot released

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montr...on-failed-murder-plot-released-1.4692779
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/06/18 06:00 PM

Montrealer who used Canadian border guard to smuggle cocaine found guilty

http://montrealgazette.com/news/ile-bizard-man-who-used-border-guard-to-smuggle-cocaine-convicted/

____________

Daniel Renaud writes that the individual sentenced has ties to an important player in the Montreal Mafia. Here's the link to Renaud's French-language article:

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/j...ir-importe-94-kilogrammes-de-cocaine.php
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/07/18 10:10 PM

Mafia link between the PLC and Rizzutos shows they have still political connections.

Close to the Montreal Mafia, the organizer of the PLC Karine Desjardins resigns
She's in business with a mafia mate

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/06/06/lorganisatrice-du-plc-karine-desjardins-demissionne
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/11/18 11:47 AM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/j...rpresse_meme_auteur_5185042_article_POS3

A major cocaine trafficker wants to go to a minimum penitentiary.
A cocaine trafficker linked to the Montreal mafia, who has received the largest drug narcotrafic sentence ever passed in Quebec, wants to be transferred from a medium-security penitentiary to a minimum, to better prepare for his release.

Vincenzo Armeni, 61, was sentenced to 19 years in prison in 2007 for trafficking more than 250 kilograms of cocaine. Since he committed the crime when he was already under a 10-year sentence for another case of trafficking in cocaine dating from 1998, a judge sentenced him to serve the two sentences consecutively - 29 years in total - without being able to apply for parole for ten years.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/11/18 12:55 PM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/06/11/la-fille-dun-mafieux-liee-a-un-projet-de-60m

The daughter of a mafia linked to a $ 60 million project

Our Investigation Bureau has learned that part of the land where the project is developed belongs to a numbered company whose president is Nathalie Di Maulo. The latter is the daughter of Vincenzo Di Maulo.
Posted By: Gallinari

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/11/18 04:39 PM

Long Live The Rooster.

@ SC, disappointed in you that you had to stoop to name calling. But youre the boss. Feel bad for you too now.

@ Loscalzo, your nonsense about Tampa still holds no weight and Ive been vindicated many times over.

All the best to Nickle, Bensonhurst, Cabrini, and Giacomo. Keep up the good posts in my absence
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/11/18 08:37 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment
http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/02/22/un-proces-pour-avoir-importe-15-tonnes-de-haschisch

Alain Charron, an associate of Raynald Desjardins can not avoid his trial in the face of serious charges of conspiracy to import of 15 tons of hashish in Montreal.


Originally Posted by antimafia
Alain Charron has already been convicted. He has ties to the 81s, mafia, and West End Gang.
___________________

Crown seeks 7-year prison term for well-connected drug smuggler

http://montrealgazette.com/news/loc...n-term-for-well-connected-drug-smuggler/


Projet Celsius: cinq ans de pénitencier pour Alain Charron

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/j...ns-de-penitencier-pour-alain-charron.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/11/18 08:49 PM

^^^^
Prolific drug smuggler Alain Charron sentenced to 5-year prison term

http://montrealgazette.com/news/loc...charron-sentenced-to-5-year-prison-term/
Posted By: Gopher

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/12/18 02:20 PM

Long Live The Rooster.
Posted By: Homers77

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/12/18 06:29 PM

Originally Posted by Gopher
Long Live The Rooster.

Originally Posted by Gopher
Long Live The Rooster.


Why do you keep posting this in informative threads???

If this is just a new name for Rooster..... some friendly advice... only make posts that add value and other members would enjoy reading. And don’t start dumb fights.

It was like Rooster has two personalities.... he would post something interesting and then two minutes later post something ridiculous.

No one wants to waste their time reading your childish bashing for no reason.
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/12/18 09:41 PM

Exactly, he has a lot of time on his hands.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/13/18 11:18 AM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/06/12/une-saisie-de-fusilsak47-jamais-vue-au-canada

A seizure of AK47 rifles never seen in Canada.
The AK47 automatic rifles that Anatoliy Vdovin sold on the internet from his Montreal apartment made 600 shots per minute. They could have caused serious problems to the police if they flooded the market.
The seizure in Montreal of nearly 1,000 body parts of AK47 assault rifles is unprecedented in Canadian history, a detective in the cause of an arms dealer who is now facing a long prison sentence testified on Tuesday
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/13/18 11:23 AM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/06/13/retraite-moins-doree-pour-le-chef-du-gang-de-lage-dor

The head of a network of drug traffickers dubbed the "Golden Age gang" has just been confiscated a small fortune in property, acquired with dirty money.

Bruno Varin, 70, has been stripped of four buildings and as many lands worth a total of $ 1.9 million, which the Attorney General of Quebec is preparing to sell to the highest bidder.

This network, which had business ties with the Italian mafia, the Hells Angels and the West gang, planned to import 1200 kg of cocaine worth $ 60 million.

The organization sent smugglers to Miami, Florida, to take delivery of the white powder. After successfully bringing back 50 kilos, the Golden Age gang saw one of its employees seize 123 kilograms in his van in Ontario.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/13/18 06:50 PM

Six men plead guilty to being part of Montreal drug trafficking ring

http://montrealgazette.com/news/six...-part-of-montreal-drug-trafficking-ring/
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/18/18 10:03 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Originally Posted by Ciment
http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/j...-maurice-boucher-plaiderait-coupable.php

Alexandra Mongeau, daughter of the former Hells Angels warrior chief Maurice Boucher, is expected to plead guilty this morning to the charges - or to some of them - brought against her since her arrest in November 2015, in the wake of an important police operation against organized crime in Montreal.



She was acquitted on the charge of conspiracy to murder Desjardins. She pled guilty to the charge of possession of more than $5,000 obtained from the proceeds of crime.

La fille de Maurice Boucher plaide coupable à une accusation

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/j...her-plaide-coupable-a-une-accusation.php


Daughter of Mom Boucher faces new charges

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/daughter-of-mom-boucher-faces-new-charges/
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/20/18 05:48 PM

http://montrealgazette.com/news/maf...ed-unimpeded-in-canada-after-deportation

Mafia-linked fugitive drug smuggler settled unimpeded in Canada after deportation
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/21/18 10:27 PM

http://montrealgazette.com/news/loc...ied-to-west-end-gang-seeks-early-release

Convicted murderer tied to West End Gang seeks early release
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/27/18 11:34 PM

http://montrealgazette.com/news/sentence-for-man-who-manufactured-guns-used-in-mob-hits

Man who manufactured firearms used in Mob hits awaits sentence
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/28/18 02:32 AM

A man was shot in the parking lot of a Samson Boulevard business in Laval on Wednesday night.
The victim is Steve Ovadia, a prominent partner of Montreal mafia boss Andrew Scoppa.

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/06/27/un-membre-important-de-la-mafia-tue-a-laval-1
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/28/18 02:43 AM

He’s dead
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/28/18 02:46 AM

A man was killed in the parking lot of a Samson Boulevard business in Laval on Wednesday night.

According to what TVA Nouvelles has learned, the victim is Steve "The Jew" Ovadia, a prominent partner of clan chief Andrew Scoppa of the Montreal Mafia.

Laval police say they were shot at around 8:17 pm When they arrived, the emergency services found a man in his mid-forties shot dead.

Andrew Scoppa has just been released from any charge in a case where he was suspected of having traded large quantities of cocaine.

This murder could have significant impacts in traditional Italian organized crime in the coming months.

Steve Ovadia was well known to underworld and police.

http://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2018/06/27/un-membre-important-de-la-mafia-tue-a-laval
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/28/18 04:33 AM

^^^^
Un proche de la mafia tué à Laval

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/j...74-un-proche-de-la-mafia-tue-a-laval.php
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/28/18 05:42 AM

It remains to be seen if this is an internal purge that is going on or the end of the truce that they had for the past months.
Most likely it's the latter, too much blood has been spilled. Many have lost a blood relative and are seeking to avenge; it was bound to happen.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/28/18 10:55 AM

^^^^
Mafia montréalaise: l'été pourrait être chaud

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/j...ontrealaise-lete-pourrait-etre-chaud.php

Man shot to death in Laval strip mall

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/man-shot-to-death-in-laval-strip-mall-reports/
Posted By: furio_from_naples

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/28/18 12:36 PM

Why nobody tried to kill Desjardins in prison? Or the Rizzutos are too weak for put a contract on him ?
Posted By: housepainter

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/28/18 01:50 PM

There was a story a few weeks ago about Mom Boucher trying to organize a hit on DesJardins, so I'm sure they want too, but he is also probably heavily guarded in prison.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/28/18 03:00 PM

http://montrealgazette.com/news/man-killed-in-laval-had-ties-to-highest-levels-of-montreal-mafia

Man killed in Laval had ties to highest levels of Montreal Mafia
Posted By: furio_from_naples

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/28/18 04:21 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment
http://montrealgazette.com/news/man-killed-in-laval-had-ties-to-highest-levels-of-montreal-mafia

Man killed in Laval had ties to highest levels of Montreal Mafia


Ciment do you know how many people was killed after deblasio died in august 17,2017 ?
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/28/18 04:27 PM

Originally Posted by furio_from_naples
Why nobody tried to kill Desjardins in prison? Or the Rizzutos are too weak for put a contract on him ?


Like painter said, supposedly there was a plot between Rizzuto/Sollecito and Mom Boucher to kill Desjardins once he was transferred to the same jail that Boucher was in. He got delayed and it threw a wrench into the whole plot and then RCMP figured out what was going on after watching video of Mom and his daughter talking in code.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/28/18 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by furio_from_naples
Originally Posted by Ciment
http://montrealgazette.com/news/man-killed-in-laval-had-ties-to-highest-levels-of-montreal-mafia

Man killed in Laval had ties to highest levels of Montreal Mafia


Ciment do you know how many people was killed after deblasio died in august 17,2017 ?


Killed Nov.2017 -There was Jacques Desjardins brother of Raynald Desjardins went missing body never found
Killed Nov.2017- Vincent Lamer x Rocker bikers
Killed Mar.2018- Mario Macri connected to west gang & mafia
Killed May 2018- Samy Mokkadem connected to west gang and mafia
Killed Jun.2018- Steve Ovadia connecter to mafia leaders
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/28/18 05:18 PM

Originally Posted by furio_from_naples
Originally Posted by Ciment
http://montrealgazette.com/news/man-killed-in-laval-had-ties-to-highest-levels-of-montreal-mafia

Man killed in Laval had ties to highest levels of Montreal Mafia


Ciment do you know how many people was killed after deblasio died in august 17,2017 ?


I do not know if your making a list of dead people but there is also Emanuele Ragusa (Nick Rizzuto jr. father-in-law) died of a heart attack in May 2018.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/28/18 06:26 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment
http://montrealgazette.com/news/sentence-for-man-who-manufactured-guns-used-in-mob-hits

Man who manufactured firearms used in Mob hits awaits sentence


LaSalle gun manufacturer sentenced to seven years in prison

http://montrealgazette.com/news/lasalle-gun-manufacturer-sentenced-to-seven-years-in-jail/
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/28/18 10:40 PM

Never heard of the guy, but the Montreal underworld always had jewish gangsters.

[Linked Image]
Posted By: furio_from_naples

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/29/18 07:13 AM

Originally Posted by Ciment
Originally Posted by furio_from_naples
Originally Posted by Ciment
http://montrealgazette.com/news/man-killed-in-laval-had-ties-to-highest-levels-of-montreal-mafia

Man killed in Laval had ties to highest levels of Montreal Mafia


Ciment do you know how many people was killed after deblasio died in august 17,2017 ?


I do not know if your making a list of dead people but there is also Emanuele Ragusa (Nick Rizzuto jr. father-in-law) died of a heart attack in May 2018.


I'm reading the last book on rizzuto war and Im just curios to know if the people continue to be killed,just it.And a heart attack doesn't count as violent death.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/29/18 12:51 PM

More on the murder of Steve Ovadia.

Le mafioso liquidé en quelques secondes

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/06/28/une-video-captee-sur-les-lieux-du-meurtre-dovadia-1
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/30/18 09:23 AM

Crime expert Pierre de Champlain tweeted yesterday.

There is no doubt that the Toronto and Montreal mafias have been going through a critical phase in their future evolution on the organized crime scene in Canada for several years and that, possibly, two clans, the Sicilians and the Calabrians, are fighting it. .
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/30/18 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Crime expert Pierre de Champlain tweeted yesterday.

There is no doubt that the Toronto and Montreal mafias have been going through a critical phase in their future evolution on the organized crime scene in Canada for several years and that, possibly, two clans, the Sicilians and the Calabrians, are fighting it. .


Retired Toronto Sun reporter Rob Lamberti's reply to the tweet, and de Champlain's response:

@roblamberti1

What about the Wolfpack?

3:25 PM - 29 Jun 2018


Pierre de Champlain
‏
@PdeChamplain

I cannot say much about it as I am less familiar with this group.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/30/18 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Originally Posted by Hollander
Crime expert Pierre de Champlain tweeted yesterday.

There is no doubt that the Toronto and Montreal mafias have been going through a critical phase in their future evolution on the organized crime scene in Canada for several years and that, possibly, two clans, the Sicilians and the Calabrians, are fighting it. .


Retired Toronto Sun reporter Rob Lamberti's reply to the tweet, and de Champlain's response:

@roblamberti1

What about the Wolfpack?

3:25 PM - 29 Jun 2018


Pierre de Champlain
‏
@PdeChamplain

I cannot say much about it as I am less familiar with this group.







I just find it curious that John Ignani who the National Post mentions is an associate of the 33 yr old Cosimo that got shot, was killed in 2016 two months after the Wolfpack Sing Deo got shot in Toronto.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/30/18 11:31 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia


There is contradiction as to Steve Ovadia allegience depending on what news media you read.

According to the LaPresse article:

"Steven Ovadia was, according to the police, a rising star in the Montreal mafia and allegedly ran a network of cocaine traffickers operating in Laval. He was already associated with another rising star of the mafia, cocaine importer.

In 2016, Ovadia was arrested as part of a major drug investigation by the SQ-led Regional Mixed Squadron (ERM) called Estacade, targeting mainly Mafia clan chief Andrew Scoppa. He was not charged, however, and released. He did not have a criminal record

But the allegiances of Ovadia were not always clear, according to some observations made by the police in recent years.

In 2014, Ovadia took part, along with many prominent Mafia-related individuals, in a celebration celebrating the birthday of Stefano Sollecito, chief of the predominantly Sicilian cell, at a restaurant in Ahuntsic, Montreal.

In 2015, he was seen on at least two occasions with Stefano Sollecito, notably during a meeting in the restaurant of the Holt Renfrew store, which was also attended by Leonardo Rizzuto, the youngest son of the late mafia godfather, Vito Rizzuto."
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/01/18 12:17 AM

^^^^
True about Ovadia.

Some of us might recall that back in September 2016, the following article to which I've linked below referred to him as un homme de main de Stefano Sollecito -- essentially, Ovadia was considered one of Sollecito's henchmen.

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2016/09/15/importante-frappe-contre-la-mafia-a-laval
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/01/18 12:38 AM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Originally Posted by Hollander
Crime expert Pierre de Champlain tweeted yesterday.

There is no doubt that the Toronto and Montreal mafias have been going through a critical phase in their future evolution on the organized crime scene in Canada for several years and that, possibly, two clans, the Sicilians and the Calabrians, are fighting it. .


Retired Toronto Sun reporter Rob Lamberti's reply to the tweet, and de Champlain's response:

@roblamberti1

What about the Wolfpack?

3:25 PM - 29 Jun 2018


Pierre de Champlain
‏
@PdeChamplain

I cannot say much about it as I am less familiar with this group.




I think the Wolfpack are like the street gangs in Montreal, contract killers.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/01/18 03:28 PM

^^^^
Uh, no.

If you want to know more about the Wolfpack Alliance, Google is your friend.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/01/18 04:50 PM


I can't wait for Peter Edwards to write his article and offer more insight on this murder.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/01/18 08:27 PM

Things seem to be picking up again. Just more crazy stuff from North of the border. Can't make this up!
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/03/18 10:25 AM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/07/02/la-fille-de-mom-boucher-dans-le-petrin

The daughter of former Hells Angels boss Maurice "Mom" Boucher risks a long stay behind bars for ignoring a court order and driving in a busy afternoon.

One month after benefiting from court leniency, Alexandra Mongeau was arrested on Highway 30 on June 16 with a blood alcohol level two and a half times the allowable limit.

At the time of her arrest, she was under house arrest 24 hours a day, ordered by Judge Eric Downs when she sentenced her to 21 months of "suspended" detention on May 11 for concealment of proceeds of crime.

In addition to being charged with impaired driving, the 28-year-old woman is now charged with breaching conditions of the judge's stay order.

The latter charge could eventually result in the 21-month community sentence that Alexandra Mongeau was sentenced in May to be changed to a term of imprisonment.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/06/18 12:41 AM

https://montrealgazette.com/news/co...entenced-to-4-years-for-fraud-corruption

Construction magnate Antonio Accurso sentenced to 4 years for fraud, corruption
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/09/18 12:53 PM

https://montrealgazette.com/news/wh...ia-and-west-end-gang-had-charges-dropped

Probe into West Island drug trafficking ring was sparked by gangland murder
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/12/18 12:38 AM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/20...ncendiaires-se-seraient-trompes-dadresse

On May,15, 2018 A 61 yr old woman died in a fire because arsonist burnt the wrong building.

What the arsonist had in mind was to burn a property owned by Mr. Schacter. Coincidently, the opulent residence of Allan Schacter was also targeted by a Molotov cocktail, just like his car, in the same period.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/mont...d-up-with-delinquent-developer-1.2437749

Before working with Schachter, Patricia Navarro co-owned the project with Ricardo Magi, brother of Mafia-linked construction boss Tony Magi.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/12/18 10:19 AM

The Montreal police stormed Wednesday at noon an Italian café in Saint- Léonard known to be frequented by members of the Mafia.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/12/18 04:35 PM

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...usion-case-will-be-freed-pending-appeals

Construction magnate Antonio Accurso will be freed pending collusion appeals
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/12/18 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment
http://www.journaldemontreal.com/20...ncendiaires-se-seraient-trompes-dadresse

On May,15, 2018 A 61 yr old woman died in a fire because arsonist burnt the wrong building.

What the arsonist had in mind was to burn a property owned by Mr. Schacter. Coincidently, the opulent residence of Allan Schacter was also targeted by a Molotov cocktail, just like his car, in the same period.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/mont...d-up-with-delinquent-developer-1.2437749

Before working with Schachter, Patricia Navarro co-owned the project with Ricardo Magi, brother of Mafia-linked construction boss Tony Magi.


Hope Tony still has his security detail. lol
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/12/18 08:34 PM

Originally Posted by dixiemafia
Originally Posted by Ciment
http://www.journaldemontreal.com/20...ncendiaires-se-seraient-trompes-dadresse

On May,15, 2018 A 61 yr old woman died in a fire because arsonist burnt the wrong building.

What the arsonist had in mind was to burn a property owned by Mr. Schacter. Coincidently, the opulent residence of Allan Schacter was also targeted by a Molotov cocktail, just like his car, in the same period.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/mont...d-up-with-delinquent-developer-1.2437749

Before working with Schachter, Patricia Navarro co-owned the project with Ricardo Magi, brother of Mafia-linked construction boss Tony Magi.


Hope Tony still has his security detail. lol


That guy has 9 lives. I am surprised he is still alive.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/13/18 11:13 AM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/07/13/paysagiste-et-vendeur-de-pot

Landscaper and pot seller.

The owner of Montreal-based landscaping firm Bellegrand could find himself on the straw for selling marijuana, cocaine and crystal meth in a network led by the Italian mafia.

Dominic Sollazzo must not only face serious criminal charges, but the state now wants to dispossess him of his condo, where the police have found significant amounts of drugs and cash.

The 31-year-old entrepreneur fell into the hands of the Montreal police following a spinning operation on a LaSalle dealer.

In the spring, the Crimes of Violence West investigative unit was notified that this network was linked to one of the Mafiosi arrested in the Clemenza drug operation, and released from charge in 2017 because the RCMP refused to to reveal to them how she had intercepted their communications
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/16/18 06:20 PM

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/07/16/un-avocat-de-montreal-est-accuse-de-trafic-de-fentanyl

A Montreal lawyer is accused of being part of a network of fentanyl traffickers, two of whose clients are close to death.

The Journal has learned that Samir Ouati, a 39-year-old lawyer specializing in immigration law, has been temporarily detained for a week in the Rivière-des-Prairies prison, following this SPVM operation that led to five arrests and the seizure of a real black market pharmacy in Verdun.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/22/18 11:20 AM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/j...ustice-en-manchette_2078092_section_POS1

The Journal de Montréal revealed this morning that a letter sent to the headquarters of the Sûreté du Québec (SQ) contained "unequivocal death threats" against Inspector Guy Lapointe, while targeting his hockey legend father of the same name, the former star defender of the Montreal Canadiens, 70 years old.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/22/18 11:23 AM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/07/21/un-haut-grade-de-la-sq-et-son-celebre-pere-menaces

A high-ranking Sûreté du Québec and his father, the former star defender of the Canadian Guy Lapointe, have been the target of death threats that police believe come from the Hells Angels or their supporters Thursday.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/26/18 11:32 AM

A man was shot and injured on Wednesday evening in Ahuntsic-Cartierville.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/27/18 08:47 AM

Two Quebecers have been arrested after French Customs officials seized 1.5 tons of cocaine valued at 60 million euros in a sailboat off Martinique.

https://www.stlucianewsonline.com/cocaine-worth-60-million-euros-seized-off-martinique/
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/28/18 06:59 PM

https://www.lavoixdelest.ca/actuali...-angels-39bdbf26de1836d8354d2665db66b584

The victim linked to the Hells Angels.

The Sûreté du Québec unveiled the identity of the victim as part of the homicide investigation that took place on the night of Friday to Saturday. This is Cédric Dupuis Skinner, a young man of 20 from the region and known police officers. The SQ believes that the crime could be related to a criminal organization. According to information obtained by the police, the victim would be the son of Hells Angels Richard Skinner.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/30/18 04:27 PM

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...d-businessman-antonio-magi-denied-parole

Bodyguard to Montreal Mafia-tied businessman Antonio Magi denied parole
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/30/18 07:46 PM

Well I guess Tony is going to have to dish out some more cash for a new bodyguard to fit into his small army he pays for now. Better hope the housing market doesn't go down
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/30/18 09:22 PM

Originally Posted by dixiemafia
Well I guess Tony is going to have to dish out some more cash for a new bodyguard to fit into his small army he pays for now. Better hope the housing market doesn't go down


This guy Tony was once kidnapped , was shot at and survived, his wife received warning shots, an associate of his had his house building project burned down.
He doesn't get the message.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/30/18 10:47 PM

Don't forget the lone guy standing on the side of the road with a rifle when Magi's motorcade rode by
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/30/18 11:11 PM

How does this guy sleep at night ?
Posted By: mike68

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/31/18 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment
How does this guy sleep at night ?


I keep thinking of that scene from Braveheart, after the clan leaders betrayed Wallace, and he showed up in the guys bedroom on freakin' horseback to bash his skull in.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/01/18 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by mike68
Originally Posted by Ciment
How does this guy sleep at night ?


I keep thinking of that scene from Braveheart, after the clan leaders betrayed Wallace, and he showed up in the guys bedroom on freakin' horseback to bash his skull in.


Hilarious !
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/01/18 04:41 PM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/07/29/la-pegre-asiatique-cultive-encore

The Asian underworld is still cultivating.
The upcoming legalization of cannabis in Canada is far from having stifled Montreal's Asian underworld, whose "pot houses" continue to flourish in every corner of the city to fuel the black market.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/01/18 04:50 PM

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...ville-under-lockdown-after-inmates-death

Update: Inmate who died in prison linked to Rock Machine biker gang
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/20/18 05:50 PM

Man involved in hit on alleged Montreal Mafioso is denied parole

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...leged-montreal-mafioso-is-denied-parole/
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/23/18 01:53 AM

Former hostage in Montreal Mafia dispute paroled in pot-smuggling case

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...a-dispute-paroled-in-pot-smuggling-case/
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/23/18 09:45 PM

No jail time for getaway driver in home invasion at Mafia leader's residence

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...ome-invasion-at-mafia-leaders-residence/
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/24/18 02:43 AM

Murder and attempted murder in Saint-Léonard.

For now, we don’t know if its street gang related or mafia related. It could also be arab crime related.

MONTREAL | One man died Thursday and another was in critical condition after being shot by at least one firearm project in the borough of Saint-Léonard, Montreal.
According to preliminary reports, one of the victims called the emergency services at around 8:20 pm to report that she had been shot in a commercial building near Lafrenaie and Magloire streets.
When they arrived, the police noticed a man on the street with an upper body wound. He was transported in critical condition to a hospital center where he was feared for his life in the evening.

While conducting checks in the building, the police discovered another man, also shot, on the upper body. However, his death was found on the spot.
"The identity of the two victims is not known at the moment," said Andrée-Anne Picard, spokesperson for the Police Department of the City of Montreal (SPVM).
A security perimeter has been erected. The canine squad was on the scene and investigators from the Major Crime Section were dispatched to analyze the scene and shed light on this event.


https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/08/23/meurtre-et-tentative-de-meurtre-a-saint-leonard
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/24/18 02:45 PM

^^^^
Meurtre dans Saint-Léonard: la victime liée au crime organisé

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/j...rd-la-victime-liee-au-crime-organise.php
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/24/18 05:13 PM

https://montrealgazette.com/news/the-notorious-west-end-gang-leader-allan-the-weasel-ross-has-died

Notorious West End Gang leader Allan (The Weasel) Ross has died
Posted By: GangstersInc

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/25/18 10:14 AM

A deadly weasel moving tons of cocaine – Profile of Montreal’s West End mob boss Allan Ross http://gangstersinc.ning.com/profil...ns-of-cocaine-profile-of-montreal-s-west
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/25/18 12:16 PM

The man gunned down Thursday night inside a car-repair shop in St-Léonard once told a parole officer he had opted for the life of a drug dealer as a means to escape the poverty he experienced as a child. Guy Therrien, 53, was out on full parole when he was fatally shot, still serving a sentence for cocaine possession.

https://montrealgazette.com/news/homicide-victim-was-drug-dealer-who-feared-poverty-of-his-youth
Posted By: pmac

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/25/18 12:49 PM

Is leonardo rizzuto back ln the street and in the fold. Im guessing wgoever killed his bro and rest of family have him as numner 1 on hitlist. What a mess up there absolutely no organized crime mafia rule stuff just drug dealing cartel shit. Next theyll be posting beheadings or hanging guys from bridges with signs vitos alive
Posted By: pmac

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/25/18 12:51 PM

A 30 something yr old non italian white guy does a home invasion looking to kill a 1 time acting boss. He jumps out a window. Wouldnt fly in the us. Stir pot
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/27/18 11:35 AM

Attentat contre Marco Pizzi: l'un des auteurs reste incarcéré

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/j...izzi-lun-des-auteurs-reste-incarcere.php
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/29/18 02:54 AM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/08/28/des-incendies-lies-a-la-pegre

A usurer lender linked to the Irish underworld who escaped an attempted murder in June appears to be the target of a new vendetta while two business premises owned by his wife were burned in 24 hours.

On Monday night, a disused restaurant on Arthur-Sauvé Boulevard in Saint-Eustache, Chingon Cantina Mexicana, fell prey to the flames.

Then, at about 3:20 am, a Rosemère establishment, Train 344, was hit.

If the two braziers were quickly mastered, obvious traces of a deliberate act were discovered by the investigators.

The two buildings where the restaurants were housed belong to a registered number company in the name of Isabelle Roy.

Fire in Saint-Eustache
PASCAL GIRARD / QMI AGENCY

Friend of the underworld

According to our sources, she is the spouse of John McKenzie, a usurious lender who is close to the west end gang.

The 48-year-old is known to police circles as a "friend for life" of Richard Griffin, a notorious member of the Irish underworld murdered more than 40 bullets in 2006.


McKenzie himself narrowly escaped death at the end of June when he was leaving a Laval training center.

He was caught by a sniper in the gym parking lot along Highway 440. No suspects have been identified so far on this file.

The Sûreté du Québec (SQ) inherited fire investigations because of links with organized crime.

"Our work is just beginning and we still have to meet witnesses," said Lieutenant Hugo Fournier while maintaining that it was too early to make a definitive link between events.

Fire in Saint-Eustache
PASCAL GIRARD / QMI AGENCY
Present on the North Shore

The SQ had already detailed McKenzie's proximity to the West end Gang in front of the Liquor, Racing and Gaming Authority (RACJ) in 2011, during auditions for O'Neil's pubs in Rosemère and Saint-Eustache.

The investigator Dominique Alain explained then that the individual used companies belonging to his relatives to acquire legal companies in payment of usurious debts.

In January 2017, Le Journal also revealed that a luxurious residence on Commissioner's Street owned by his wife had been burned.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/30/18 01:00 PM

https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/1120778/canada-italie-lutte-contre-mafia-rapport-justice

The mafia is still alive and well in this country because Canada lacks the tools to deal with it, according to an elite police squad of the Italian government. The Charbonneau commission and the police operations are not enough. Should we worry?

A text Gaetan Pouliot of Survey

The tentacles of the mafia extend to Montreal and Toronto. But also in Ottawa and Thunder Bay. British Columbia and Alberta are also affected by the activities of this criminal organization. This is revealed by a report of the Anti-Mafia Investigations Directorate made public last month in the Italian Parliament.

"The presence of criminal organizations of Italian origin would be mainly due to the economic and financial opportunities offered by the country," says the 386-page Italian report, which devotes a visit to Canada.

But Canada is not always well equipped to fight this scourge, says the Anti-Mafia Investigations Directorate.

"The kilos of coke can be intercepted. We are able to weaken the Mafia criminally, "said André Cédilot, journalist and specialist mafia in Quebec. There is, however, a blind spot: infiltration into the legal economy makes the mafia and its associates difficult to reach. "It's the biggest danger," he believes.

They make so many millions with drug trafficking that they have to reinject them into the legal economy. That's what's worrying.

André Cédilot, mafia specialist
Italy amended its Criminal Code in 1982 to more easily accuse those who associate with the mafia, whether they are business people or politicians. This type of criminal charge has no equivalent in Canada and the mafia benefits, says the Italian police.

"We have a law on gangsterism. But the malaise is so great in Italy that they have been forced to adopt a law that goes further than the criminal conspiracy. They include the mafia relatives. For example, they could arrest a person who was seen with Vito Rizzuto, "says the author of the book Mafia inc. : magnitude and misery of the Sicilian clan in Quebec, which believes that this type of legislation is inevitable in Canada.

"Toronto should be worried"
The heavy blows brought to the Rizzuto clan for the past ten years, by the incarceration or murder of members of its staff, have not done away with the organization based in Montreal. But the Mafia of Calabrian origin, the 'Ndrangheta, would now be the most powerful in the country, says the Italian police. And it's primarily in the Toronto area.

Cranes bustle in downtown Toronto
Toronto Real Estate Construction Photo: The Canadian Press / Frank Gunn
The Canadian mafia is involved in the trafficking of cocaine and heroin, but also in money laundering operations. It would recycle huge sums in the areas of catering, private security, real estate and waste management, the report says.

Toronto should be worried, says Cédilot. "Quebec journalists did some investigations. But [in Ontario], there is no one out there who cares about that, the government is not interested in that. "

By neglecting the mafia and not taking it seriously, one day, we will pick up as in Italy.

André Cédilot, mafia specialist
"In Quebec, we did a commission of inquiry. Sure it looks bad, but at least we try to stop the problem a bit, "he adds.

The Charbonneau commission, which ran from 2012 to 2015, showed that the Quebec construction industry had been infiltrated by the Rizzuto clan. In the 2000s, businessmen went to the Consenza Social Club in Montreal to hand over money to mafia bosses.

Police officers hold Francesco Arcadi by the arms
Francesco Arcadi arrested in 2006 in Operation Colisée led by the RCMP Photo: The Canadian Press / Paul Chiasson
According to André Cédilot, it is no longer possible to stop mafia organizations.

It's too late. They are made too rich. Their influence is everywhere.

André Cédilot, mafia specialist
The Canadian authorities must therefore seek to impede their efforts by trying to dry them financially, as much the criminals as the businessmen who work for them.

The Royal Canadian Mounted Police declined to comment on the presence of the Mafia in Canada. "The RCMP does not comment on reports written in other countries," the federal police responded to Radio-Canada, adding that the "fight against organized crime is a priority."

The Anti-Mafia Investigations Directorate of Italy, for its part, is exchanging information with the Canadian authorities.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/30/18 11:50 PM

Montreal mobster Alan Ross called for a bloody reckoning

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/can...alan-ross-called-for-a-bloody-reckoning/
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/01/18 11:21 AM

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/new...ing-back-to-the-fifties/article22489952/

Storied Montreal mobster Richard Matticks, dead at 80, was a character in one of the biggest Quebec police scandals
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/01/18 11:27 AM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/09/01/un-chef-de-gang-est-pince-avec-de-la-drogue-en-prison

An alleged street gang leader in Montreal will face justice after being caught with jar and speed tablets in jail.

The influential Gregory Woolley was charged earlier this month with possession of methamphetamine and cannabis for the purpose of trafficking.
The alleged offenses allegedly occurred on January 2 at Montreal's century-old prison, commonly known as Bordeaux, where Woolley is being detained pending trial for other charges already against him.

According to our information, the 46-year-old man was reportedly surprised by correctional officers during a drug transaction with a visitor in the prison's visiting room.


After seizing the narcotics, the prison authorities then called on the Sûreté du Québec police officers to investigate and submit a file to the Director of Criminal and Penal Prosecutions (DPCP).

A prosecutor finally authorized the filing of two charges on 6 August.

Hells School Club


Gregory Woolley has been in custody for more than two years, in relation to another court case.

The facts alleged in this pending case are subject to a publication ban.

According to The Black Book of the Hells Angels , Woolley remains to this day "the only black to have been admitted into the big family" of this biker gang in Quebec.

In 1998, in the midst of the biker war against the Rock Machine, Maurice's former bodyguard "Mom" Boucher had received his jacket from the Rockers, the club-club of the elite chapter Nomads des Hells.

That same year, under the recommendation of the former Hells Chief, Woolley founded the Syndicates, a street gang associated with bikers in business and whose motto is Do or Die .

The Rockers, like the Nomads of the Hells chapter, were disbanded after the Spring 2001 police operation, during which Woolley was arrested and sentenced to a long term penitentiary for gangsterism and drug trafficking.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/02/18 06:53 AM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/09/02/mafioso-declare-mort-par-la-cour

Mafioso declared dead by the court
The consigliere of the Rizzuto clan has never been found by the police since its kidnapping in 2010

The death of the former consigliere of the Montreal mafia, who disappeared since his kidnapping in 2010, was finally confirmed by the courts even though the police never found his body.
After a first request rejected in 2013, the Superior Court granted the second request of mafioso wife Paolo Renda, Maria Rizzuto, in a judgment passed unnoticed last winter.
Judge Brian Riordan stated that Renda - brother-in-law of the late godfather Vito Rizzuto - "died in Montreal on May 20, 2010", the day of his abduction, in this succinct decision that Le Journal was able to consult.

The construction contractor has long been considered the number 3 mafia and the "financier" of the Rizzuto clan.
Respected in the underworld, Renda exercised a "moral authority" in arbitrating conflicts and perceived "money from the commission of crimes", according to documents of Operation Colisée in which he was arrested by the Gendarmerie Royal Bank of Canada in 2006.



False police officers
On May 20, 2010, three months after leaving the penitentiary, the 70-year-old man went to play golf before heading to the Loreto Funeral Complex, owned by his family. On the spot, he called his wife around 1 pm, to inform him that he was buying steaks before going home.
A few hours later, 500 meters from the family residence, his son-in-law found the car of the disappeared on Gouin Boulevard: the doors unlocked, the windows down, the key in the contact and the meat still on the bench.
Construction workers said they saw the victim leave with two tall men in a black car with flashing lights, suggesting that the kidnappers had pretended to be plainclothes policemen.
Clan decimated
Five months before Renda's disappearance, his nephew Nick Rizzuto Junior had been murdered. Five months after the kidnapping, the "patriarch" of the clan, Nicolo Rizzuto, was shot in his house. At that time, godfather Vito Rizzuto was incarcerated in the United States for plotting three murders.
Paolo Renda never gave any sign of life or financial transaction. No ransom was claimed by his captors. He did not have life insurance either.
If his family's second judicial request seemed only a formality, it is because Canadian courts consent to make a declaratory judgment of death when at least seven years have elapsed since the disappearance of a person .

The Journal has already reported that the boss Giuseppe Ponytail De Vito was suspected by the police to have been involved in this case which has never been elucidated. In 2013, De Vito died in cyanide poisoning at Donnacona Penitentiary.

Who was Paolo Renda?
Born in Italy on September 10, 1939
Married to Nicolo Rizzuto's daughter, Maria, September 5, 1964, in Montreal
Sentenced to four years in prison on January 28, 1972, for setting fire to his Boucherville hair salon with the intention of defrauding his insurers
In the late 1970s, he helped his father-in-law Nicolo Rizzuto and his brother-in-law Vito Rizzuto to take the lead in the Montreal mafia, taking part in important clan decisions.
He lived in an affluent residence on Rue Antoine-Berthelet, in the Cartierville sector, located between those of his father-in-law and his brother-in-law
Between 2002 and 2006, during Operation Colisée RCMP, he was filmed 51 times at the Rizzuto Clix headquarters, Consenza, engaged in questionable financial transactions and accepting bundles of money.
In April 2004, the RCMP recorded him handing mafioso Lorenzo Giordano to order after he fired a firearm shot into the testicles of a heroin trafficker at The Globe restaurant.
In November 2006, he was one of the six mafia leaders arrested in Operation Coliseum, with Nicolo Rizzuto, Francesco Arcadi, Rocco Sollecito, Lorenzo Giordano and Francesco Del Balso - of the group, only Arcadi and Del Balso were not murdered since
In September 2008, Renda pleaded guilty to charges of gangsterism and receiving money from crime; he was released on parole in February 2010 after being jailed for nearly three and a half years
In 2012, during the Charbonneau commission, he was identified as one of the mafiosos who shared a 2.5% "commission" that many construction contractors handed over to the Rizzuto clan on the public contracts they received from the City. of Montreal by participating in a ploy of collusion.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/03/18 08:33 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/new...ing-back-to-the-fifties/article22489952/

Storied Montreal mobster Richard Matticks, dead at 80, was a character in one of the biggest Quebec police scandals


I'm sure some big names in organized crime in Montreal will attend the funeral.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/03/18 09:39 PM

He died in Jan,2015. It was an updated flashback article.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/04/18 11:56 AM

Un mafieux conteste la loi sur les libérations conditionnelles

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/j...-sur-les-liberations-conditionnelles.php
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/04/18 01:39 PM

https://nationalpost.com/pmn/news-p...f-cora-breakfast-chain-president-in-2017

Arrest in kidnapping of president of Cora breakfast chain president in 2017
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/05/18 05:19 PM

https://montrealgazette.com/news/su...a-chief-was-in-serious-financial-trouble

Suspect in kidnapping of Chez Cora chief was in serious financial trouble
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/11/18 03:32 PM

https://montrealgazette.com/news/drug-dealer-tied-to-murdered-mob-tied-loan-shark-granted-day-parole

Drug dealer tied to murdered Mob-tied loan shark granted day parole
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/12/18 11:51 PM

https://nationalpost.com/pmn/news-p...len-from-homes-of-two-prosecutors-report

Documents on anti-biker probe stolen from homes of two prosecutors: report
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/13/18 11:31 AM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/09/13/un-mafieux-montrealais-vise-des-pizzerias-de-quebec

Montreal mobster targets Quebec pizzérias
This is the first time a member of the Rizzuto clan has moved to the Old Capital.

The Montreal Mafia settles in Quebec City. An influential lieutenant of the Sicilian Rizzuto clan recently settled in the Old Capital, where he and his gang engaged in extortion attempts at pizzerias.
According to the information gathered by our Investigation Office, Francesco Del Balso, a soldier of the former godfather Vito Rizzuto, has been living since last spring on Grande-Allée.
The police believe that he tries by all means to make "business" in the Quebec City area. At least half a dozen restaurants would have been targeted.

Members of his entourage have, among other things, asked pizzi some restaurateurs. The pizzo is the periodic payment of money to the mafia by traders in exchange for its protection. This type of typical Italian mafia practice has existed in some Montreal neighborhoods for decades.
Del Balso also allegedly attempted extortion to take control of other institutions.

According to our police sources, this is the first time a mafia member has settled permanently in Quebec.
Investigation for extortion
Francesco Del Balso is the subject of an investigation for trying to extract several thousand dollars from the owners of the restaurant La Fornarina, in the Saint-Jean-Baptiste district.
Rather than yield to the mafia pressures, the courageous owners decided to contact the Quebec Police Service (SPVQ) to file a complaint for extortion.
The SPVQ quickly sought the help of the National Organized Crime Squad (ENRCO). Sources involved in the case say the case is treated very seriously.
"This is really a bum, this guy [Del Balso]. He was told to get away from Montreal if he wanted to live and the next thing that comes to our ears is that he is threatening Quebec restaurants. Frankly ! Said one of them.
"What are you talking about? Del Balso said when we reached him on the phone, before asking our Investigation Bureau never to call him again.
Victim of an attempted murder in May in Laval, Del Balso, nicknamed "Chit" (cucumber, in Italian jargon), has landed in Quebec since the beginning of summer.
Stay away
"We asked him to stay away [from the Montreal area]," says a source related to the Rizzuto clan.
"I think he did not understand that" far "it was much further than Quebec," adds a police officer well aware of the case, who also requested anonymity.
Del Balso is currently employed as a representative in a fruit and vegetable distribution company. He had the same type of job when he was arrested in 2006, during the anti-Colafia operation.

Threatened with a sack of flour

Two young Italian entrepreneurs who immigrated to Quebec in 2017 are among the restaurateurs who would have tasted the "recipe" of Francesco Del Balso.
Last February, the owners of the pizzeria La Fornarina, rue Saint-Jean, were visited by strange but affable customers, perhaps even a little too much. Among the group, someone seemed to want to invest in the company to expand the premises, which had just been inaugurated.
On February 20, we find a Facebook publication of the restaurant that says renovations are coming.
"We are going to take advantage of the break week to enlarge the main hall. Do not be bored of us, we will come back in force ", can we read there.
They refuse to give in
It was after that date that Del Balso gradually came into play by introducing himself to the business of Annie Ghattas and Federico Marcellini. He finally suggested to small traders to sell their business for a pittance, otherwise there would be consequences.
They refused, but then they received a sack of flour on which was written an unequivocal message: either they sold their trade for a pittance, or they would have to "leave".
Young entrepreneurs left Senigallia, Italy, in 2017, for a better life in Quebec. Far from being intimidated, the owners of the restaurant instead called the police. They did not want to grant an interview to our Investigation Office.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/13/18 04:37 PM

https://aboutthemafia.com/montreal-mobster-francesco-del-balso-operating-in-quebec

Montreal mobster Francesco Del Balso operating in Quebec
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/13/18 04:49 PM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/09/12/les-hells-a-la-chasse-aux-delateurs

A police mole hunt by the Hells Angels could explain the theft of court documents at two Crown Attorneys a week ago.

This is an assumption made by law enforcement as a possible motive for two burglaries perpetrated on September 5, in Montreal and Longueuil, at the homes of as many lawyers of the Office of Serious Crime.

The criminals stole only investigation reports and court documents without touching the valuables, according to La Presse reported Wednesday and whose Journal was able to obtain confirmation.

The victims represent the prosecution of the Objection drug trial, which resulted in the arrest of 70 alleged traffickers, including four members of the Hells Angels in April.

According to our sources, the thieves were hoping to get their hands on information about a criminal who collaborated with the police to infiltrate the network and trap suspects in this investigation.

In addition, it is likely that the perpetrators of these crimes also wanted to obtain information about other police informants in these documents.

On the other hand, there would be nothing that would compromise investigations or put people at risk in stolen reports, according to our sources. The Sûreté du Québec, responsible for elucidating these flights, made no comment Wednesday.

Assassination

In February 2000, civilian agent Claude DeSerres was murdered a few months after the Hells obtained information about him by stealing an investigator's laptop from a hotel room in Sherbrooke.

The Hells have been trying for a long time to guard against the use of informers. In particular, they put a half-million-dollar contract on the head of Operation SharQc informant Sylvain Boulanger.

In 1997, after having ordered the murders of two correctional officers, the former Hells chief Maurice "Mom" Boucher told Stéphane "Godasse" Gagné that "we would kill the family of [the] next informant's family". . Gagné became an informer the same year.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/15/18 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment
https://aboutthemafia.com/montreal-mobster-francesco-del-balso-operating-in-quebec

Montreal mobster Francesco Del Balso operating in Quebec


Une présence «atypique» de la mafia à Québec

https://www.journaldequebec.com/2018/09/15/une-presence-atypique-de-la-mafia-a-quebec
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/18/18 05:51 PM

https://montrealgazette.com/news/mo...lleyfield-destined-for-toronto-vancouver

Mounties seize cocaine in Valleyfield destined for Toronto, Vancouver
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/23/18 01:59 PM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/j...ait-ete-chef-interimaire-de-la-mafia.php

Andrew Scoppa would have been acting chief of the mafia

One of the most influential actors in the Montreal mafia for several years, Andrew Scoppa, was considered by the Sûreté du Québec to be the "interim leader of the Montreal mafia" before being arrested.

That's what an SQ officer said on Thursday during his testimony at the trial for possession of several kilograms of cocaine currently involving a former co-accused of Scoppa, at the courthouse in Montreal.

"Andrew Scoppa had the status of interim leader of the Mafia of Montreal at that time," repeated twice a lieutenant of the organized crime division of the SQ, in response to questions from Mr. Claude Olivier, counsel for the the accused Maxime Hébert.

It would be the first time a police officer has testified under oath that Scoppa was considered the acting head of the mafia, and not just an influential leader.

Andrew Scoppa, 54, was arrested without charge on October 26, 2016, in the Tower of Canada parking lot, as part of a cocaine smuggling investigation by the North Shore Regional Joint Squad (MRE). called Estacade, a survey aimed at Scoppa and accomplices. It was following one of them, Fazio Malatesta, that the bloodhounds were directed to Maxime Hébert's home on 13th Avenue in Montreal, where they found dozens of pounds of cocaine.

During the investigation, the police installed a microphone in the vehicles rented by Scoppa and his driver, Nicola Valiente, and intercepted many conversations between the two men.

Scoppa, Malatesta and Valiente were charged in February 2017, but on May 11, they benefited from a halt in the judicial process while the proceedings continue for the other co-defendants, including Hébert.

TORONTO AND ITALY AGREEMENT

According to police documents filed in the trial of Maxime Hébert, citing information compiled sources from 2012, Andrew Scoppa would have been a rising star of the mafia, respected by the late godfather Vito Rizzuto, and would have controlled the traffic of narcotics in Laval and several neighborhoods north of Montreal. His right arm would have been Steve Ovadia, aka The Jew or Ghost, murdered last June.

In May 2016, another source told the police that Andrew and his brother Salvatore would have received the approval of the Toronto Mafia and Italy, that they would be the leaders of the Montreal Mafia and "the decision-makers". Remember, however, that this is source information and that it has not been proven or tested in court.

In one of the conversations with his driver intercepted during the Estacade investigation, Scoppa claims however that he does not want to be the boss.

"I do not want to be the boss. To be, you must aim to become one, "he told Valiente.

"Andrew Scoppa is probably the closest to Vito Rizzuto in his organized crime strategies, and he and his brother, even though there is tension between them, make up one of the strongest clans in the mafia. For years. But they have always stayed behind and know everything about all organized crime actors. They are probably stronger in this position than the direction of the mafia, "said a police source for La Presse.

IN THE WAY OF POLICE HITCHES

In November 2015, the day of Operation Magot-Mastiff, which decapitated Montreal's organized crime, the police named Stefano Sollecito and Leonardo Rizzuto, from the Sicilian clan, as leaders of the Montreal Mafia. According to the Sûreté du Québec, which conducted the Magot-Mastiff and Estacade investigations, the direction of the Montreal Mafia would have changed a year later.

As was the case for all target groups during each major police operation against organized crime since Colisée in 2006, the Sollecito-Rizzuto clan was weakened and others would have taken over. Let's not forget that between March 1 and October 15, 2016, three important members of the Sicilian clan were murdered, Lorenzo Giordano, Rocco Sollecito and Vincenzo Spagnolo.

But if Andrew Scoppa was the interim leader in the fall of 2016, the situation could be different today, as things evolve and alliances are still fragile within the Montreal mafia.

The trial of Maxime Hébert continues on December 6 with the pleadings on three motions, including one in stoppage of the judicial process, presented by Mr. Olivier. The seasoned criminal lawyer, however, faces fierce opposition from the prosecution, provided by Karine Cordeau and Julien Gaudet-Lachapelle.

During the trial, presided over by Judge Linda Despots, a witness also told an anecdote: the investigators gave up the use of the sniffer dog during the search of Maxime Hébert's house, because he was infested with ... bedbugs bed.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/23/18 02:26 PM

Interesting so another Calabrian leader after Acardi.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/23/18 02:36 PM

The French-language article to which I’ve linked below has a section at the very end about individuals who, tied to Italian organized crime or crime figures, were all killed by street gang members who were given the contracts.

Pas de seconde chance pour un jeune meurtrier

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/09/23/pas-de-seconde-chance-pour-un-jeune-meurtrier
Posted By: Homers77

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/23/18 02:59 PM

Is there any chance Acardi and del basi helped set up the Rizzutos... strange they are still around and didn’t Arcari hold like a street boss position when Vito was away....

Then again they would be loose ends and DB isn’t even in Montreal anymore I think I read....

Would love for someone high up to flip too bad Fat boy Massino didn’t make until now then maybe we would no more. And I’m not a mafia fan boy fat boy probably destroyed 100s of families and got to keep money and dissapear. Him and Sammy should have gotten a $.10 bullet to back of head after they flipped.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/23/18 03:37 PM

If true this is big news, that the Scoppa's are the chosen favorites ,by the Ndrangheta, to be in charge of Montreal.


"Andrew Scoppa had the status of interim leader of the Mafia of Montreal at that time," repeated twice a lieutenant of the organized crime division of the SQ, in response to questions from Mr. Claude Olivier, counsel for the the accused Maxime Hébert.

It would be the first time a police officer has testified under oath that Scoppa was considered the acting head of the mafia, and not just an influential leader.

In May 2016, another source told the police that Andrew and his brother Salvatore would have received the approval of the Toronto Mafia and Italy, that they would be the leaders of the Montreal Mafia and "the decision-makers". Remember, however, that this is source information and that it has not been proven or tested in court.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/23/18 04:42 PM

So Toronto guys prefer the Cotroni family.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/23/18 06:29 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
The French-language article to which I’ve linked below has a section at the very end about individuals who, tied to Italian organized crime or crime figures, were all killed by street gang members who were given the contracts.

Pas de seconde chance pour un jeune meurtrier

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/09/23/pas-de-seconde-chance-pour-un-jeune-meurtrier


Too bad, journal de montreal is unavailable here due to recent rulings of the EU. Bastards.
Posted By: Strax

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/23/18 06:41 PM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Originally Posted by antimafia
The French-language article to which I’ve linked below has a section at the very end about individuals who, tied to Italian organized crime or crime figures, were all killed by street gang members who were given the contracts.

Pas de seconde chance pour un jeune meurtrier

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/09/23/pas-de-seconde-chance-pour-un-jeune-meurtrier


Too bad, journal de montreal is unavailable here due to recent rulings of the EU. Bastards.


I will copy-paste you whole article in PM. Check your PM
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/23/18 07:08 PM

Originally Posted by Blackmobs
http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/j...ait-ete-chef-interimaire-de-la-mafia.php

Andrew Scoppa would have been acting chief of the mafia

One of the most influential actors in the Montreal mafia for several years, Andrew Scoppa, was considered by the Sûreté du Québec to be the "interim leader of the Montreal mafia" before being arrested.

That's what an SQ officer said on Thursday during his testimony at the trial for possession of several kilograms of cocaine currently involving a former co-accused of Scoppa, at the courthouse in Montreal.

"Andrew Scoppa had the status of interim leader of the Mafia of Montreal at that time," repeated twice a lieutenant of the organized crime division of the SQ, in response to questions from Mr. Claude Olivier, counsel for the the accused Maxime Hébert.

It would be the first time a police officer has testified under oath that Scoppa was considered the acting head of the mafia, and not just an influential leader.

Andrew Scoppa, 54, was arrested without charge on October 26, 2016, in the Tower of Canada parking lot, as part of a cocaine smuggling investigation by the North Shore Regional Joint Squad (MRE). called Estacade, a survey aimed at Scoppa and accomplices. It was following one of them, Fazio Malatesta, that the bloodhounds were directed to Maxime Hébert's home on 13th Avenue in Montreal, where they found dozens of pounds of cocaine.

During the investigation, the police installed a microphone in the vehicles rented by Scoppa and his driver, Nicola Valiente, and intercepted many conversations between the two men.

Scoppa, Malatesta and Valiente were charged in February 2017, but on May 11, they benefited from a halt in the judicial process while the proceedings continue for the other co-defendants, including Hébert.

TORONTO AND ITALY AGREEMENT

According to police documents filed in the trial of Maxime Hébert, citing information compiled sources from 2012, Andrew Scoppa would have been a rising star of the mafia, respected by the late godfather Vito Rizzuto, and would have controlled the traffic of narcotics in Laval and several neighborhoods north of Montreal. His right arm would have been Steve Ovadia, aka The Jew or Ghost, murdered last June.

In May 2016, another source told the police that Andrew and his brother Salvatore would have received the approval of the Toronto Mafia and Italy, that they would be the leaders of the Montreal Mafia and "the decision-makers". Remember, however, that this is source information and that it has not been proven or tested in court.

In one of the conversations with his driver intercepted during the Estacade investigation, Scoppa claims however that he does not want to be the boss.

"I do not want to be the boss. To be, you must aim to become one, "he told Valiente.

"Andrew Scoppa is probably the closest to Vito Rizzuto in his organized crime strategies, and he and his brother, even though there is tension between them, make up one of the strongest clans in the mafia. For years. But they have always stayed behind and know everything about all organized crime actors. They are probably stronger in this position than the direction of the mafia, "said a police source for La Presse.

IN THE WAY OF POLICE HITCHES

In November 2015, the day of Operation Magot-Mastiff, which decapitated Montreal's organized crime, the police named Stefano Sollecito and Leonardo Rizzuto, from the Sicilian clan, as leaders of the Montreal Mafia. According to the Sûreté du Québec, which conducted the Magot-Mastiff and Estacade investigations, the direction of the Montreal Mafia would have changed a year later.

As was the case for all target groups during each major police operation against organized crime since Colisée in 2006, the Sollecito-Rizzuto clan was weakened and others would have taken over. Let's not forget that between March 1 and October 15, 2016, three important members of the Sicilian clan were murdered, Lorenzo Giordano, Rocco Sollecito and Vincenzo Spagnolo.

But if Andrew Scoppa was the interim leader in the fall of 2016, the situation could be different today, as things evolve and alliances are still fragile within the Montreal mafia.

The trial of Maxime Hébert continues on December 6 with the pleadings on three motions, including one in stoppage of the judicial process, presented by Mr. Olivier. The seasoned criminal lawyer, however, faces fierce opposition from the prosecution, provided by Karine Cordeau and Julien Gaudet-Lachapelle.

During the trial, presided over by Judge Linda Despots, a witness also told an anecdote: the investigators gave up the use of the sniffer dog during the search of Maxime Hébert's house, because he was infested with ... bedbugs bed.

Originally Posted by Blackmobs
http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/j...ait-ete-chef-interimaire-de-la-mafia.php

Andrew Scoppa would have been acting chief of the mafia

One of the most influential actors in the Montreal mafia for several years, Andrew Scoppa, was considered by the Sûreté du Québec to be the "interim leader of the Montreal mafia" before being arrested.

That's what an SQ officer said on Thursday during his testimony at the trial for possession of several kilograms of cocaine currently involving a former co-accused of Scoppa, at the courthouse in Montreal.

"Andrew Scoppa had the status of interim leader of the Mafia of Montreal at that time," repeated twice a lieutenant of the organized crime division of the SQ, in response to questions from Mr. Claude Olivier, counsel for the the accused Maxime Hébert.

It would be the first time a police officer has testified under oath that Scoppa was considered the acting head of the mafia, and not just an influential leader.

Andrew Scoppa, 54, was arrested without charge on October 26, 2016, in the Tower of Canada parking lot, as part of a cocaine smuggling investigation by the North Shore Regional Joint Squad (MRE). called Estacade, a survey aimed at Scoppa and accomplices. It was following one of them, Fazio Malatesta, that the bloodhounds were directed to Maxime Hébert's home on 13th Avenue in Montreal, where they found dozens of pounds of cocaine.

During the investigation, the police installed a microphone in the vehicles rented by Scoppa and his driver, Nicola Valiente, and intercepted many conversations between the two men.

Scoppa, Malatesta and Valiente were charged in February 2017, but on May 11, they benefited from a halt in the judicial process while the proceedings continue for the other co-defendants, including Hébert.

TORONTO AND ITALY AGREEMENT

According to police documents filed in the trial of Maxime Hébert, citing information compiled sources from 2012, Andrew Scoppa would have been a rising star of the mafia, respected by the late godfather Vito Rizzuto, and would have controlled the traffic of narcotics in Laval and several neighborhoods north of Montreal. His right arm would have been Steve Ovadia, aka The Jew or Ghost, murdered last June.

In May 2016, another source told the police that Andrew and his brother Salvatore would have received the approval of the Toronto Mafia and Italy, that they would be the leaders of the Montreal Mafia and "the decision-makers". Remember, however, that this is source information and that it has not been proven or tested in court.

In one of the conversations with his driver intercepted during the Estacade investigation, Scoppa claims however that he does not want to be the boss.

"I do not want to be the boss. To be, you must aim to become one, "he told Valiente.

"Andrew Scoppa is probably the closest to Vito Rizzuto in his organized crime strategies, and he and his brother, even though there is tension between them, make up one of the strongest clans in the mafia. For years. But they have always stayed behind and know everything about all organized crime actors. They are probably stronger in this position than the direction of the mafia, "said a police source for La Presse.

IN THE WAY OF POLICE HITCHES

In November 2015, the day of Operation Magot-Mastiff, which decapitated Montreal's organized crime, the police named Stefano Sollecito and Leonardo Rizzuto, from the Sicilian clan, as leaders of the Montreal Mafia. According to the Sûreté du Québec, which conducted the Magot-Mastiff and Estacade investigations, the direction of the Montreal Mafia would have changed a year later.

As was the case for all target groups during each major police operation against organized crime since Colisée in 2006, the Sollecito-Rizzuto clan was weakened and others would have taken over. Let's not forget that between March 1 and October 15, 2016, three important members of the Sicilian clan were murdered, Lorenzo Giordano, Rocco Sollecito and Vincenzo Spagnolo.

But if Andrew Scoppa was the interim leader in the fall of 2016, the situation could be different today, as things evolve and alliances are still fragile within the Montreal mafia.

The trial of Maxime Hébert continues on December 6 with the pleadings on three motions, including one in stoppage of the judicial process, presented by Mr. Olivier. The seasoned criminal lawyer, however, faces fierce opposition from the prosecution, provided by Karine Cordeau and Julien Gaudet-Lachapelle.

During the trial, presided over by Judge Linda Despots, a witness also told an anecdote: the investigators gave up the use of the sniffer dog during the search of Maxime Hébert's house, because he was infested with ... bedbugs bed.


The article of JdM in english
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/24/18 08:30 PM

Andrew Scoppa was the interim leader of the Montreal Mafia?

https://aboutthemafia.com/andrew-scoppa-was-the-interim-leader-of-the-montreal-mafia
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/25/18 08:54 AM

A man and woman were shot and wounded on Sunday morning in the parking lot of a bar in Laval.
Posted By: mike68

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/25/18 05:00 PM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Andrew Scoppa was the interim leader of the Montreal Mafia?

https://aboutthemafia.com/andrew-scoppa-was-the-interim-leader-of-the-montreal-mafia


Didn't Scoppa almost get whacked within the past couple of years in a restaraunt parking lot or something similar? Who was behind that then, Rizzuto-Sollecito?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/25/18 06:00 PM

Yes it was Salvatore Scoppa brother of Andrew.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/25/18 08:18 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment
Yes it was Salvatore Scoppa brother of Andrew.


And in June Andrew´s close friend Steve "The Jew" Ovadia was found shot to death in Laval.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/26/18 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by Ciment
Yes it was Salvatore Scoppa brother of Andrew.


Yep, it seems they cannot get along at all which makes this cluster even more interesting.
Posted By: mike68

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/26/18 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by dixiemafia
Originally Posted by Ciment
Yes it was Salvatore Scoppa brother of Andrew.


Yep, it seems they cannot get along at all which makes this cluster even more interesting.


It doesn't seem that they will ever settle on someone who all parties can live with up there.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/26/18 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by mike68
Originally Posted by dixiemafia
Originally Posted by Ciment
Yes it was Salvatore Scoppa brother of Andrew.


Yep, it seems they cannot get along at all which makes this cluster even more interesting.


It doesn't seem that they will ever settle on someone who all parties can live with up there.


You are right no matter who you put in charge they will never agree but at this moment the Scoppa's seem to be the most dominant but this may change if he goes to jail.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/26/18 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by dixiemafia
Originally Posted by Ciment
Yes it was Salvatore Scoppa brother of Andrew.


Yep, it seems they cannot get along at all which makes this cluster even more interesting.


I know the press has reported them not getting along but yet the Ndrangheta has approved both brothers as new leaders.
Could be they made up ?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/26/18 04:58 PM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Originally Posted by Ciment
Yes it was Salvatore Scoppa brother of Andrew.


And in June Andrew´s close friend Steve "The Jew" Ovadia was found shot to death in Laval.



Steve Ovadia was known in mafia terms to visit "different churches." Could be that is what got him killed.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/26/18 06:51 PM

The victim had ties to organized crime. But to which group?

Man dies after shooting in Laval restaurant

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/fatal-shooting-laval-restaurant-1.4838738
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/26/18 07:02 PM

^^^^
Some other article links (French-language articles):

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/j...victime-serait-liee-aux-hells-angels.php (Renaud names the victim: Sébastien Vena)

http://journalmetro.com/actualites/montreal/1819883/meurtre-relie-au-crime-organise-a-laval/

https://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2018/09/26/un-meurtre-lie-au-crime-organise-dans-un-resto-de-laval
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/26/18 07:39 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
The victim had ties to organized crime. But to which group?

Man dies after shooting in Laval restaurant

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/fatal-shooting-laval-restaurant-1.4838738


Hells Angels
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/27/18 01:06 AM

^^^^
"Police believe deadly Laval shooting linked to organized crime"

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...aval-shooting-linked-to-organized-crime/
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/28/18 02:10 PM

When was Vito Rizzuto inducted into the Bonannos and by who? Galante?
Posted By: NickleCity

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/28/18 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by Hollander
When was Vito Rizzuto inducted into the Bonannos and by who? Galante?


From CBC NEWS article The Rizzuto Family by Corrine Smith (Nov. 13. 2010)

Quote
1981: Police believe Vito Rizzuto is formally inducted into the powerful New York Bonanno family organization after allegedly helping to murder three of the family's captains who were suspected of plotting a takeover. Authorities start referring to the younger Rizzuto as "Godfather" of the Montreal Mafia, and he becomes Canada's most influential member of the Bonnano clan.


Here is a link to the article:CBC NEWS: "RIzzuto Family" by Corrine Smith
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/28/18 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by NickleCity
Originally Posted by Hollander
When was Vito Rizzuto inducted into the Bonannos and by who? Galante?


From CBC NEWS article The Rizzuto Family by Corrine Smith (Nov. 13. 2010)

Quote
1981: Police believe Vito Rizzuto is formally inducted into the powerful New York Bonanno family organization after allegedly helping to murder three of the family's captains who were suspected of plotting a takeover. Authorities start referring to the younger Rizzuto as "Godfather" of the Montreal Mafia, and he becomes Canada's most influential member of the Bonnano clan.


Here is a link to the article:CBC NEWS: "RIzzuto Family" by Corrine Smith


I've seen posters speculating about this but can't recall reading it an actual article, so thanks for posting.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/30/18 04:57 AM

‪Projet Estacade: quatre accusés plaident coupable

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/j...ade-quatre-accuses-plaident-coupable.php
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/30/18 09:15 PM

A man, 67, shot in Verdun

http://fr.canoe.ca/infos/regional/montreal/archives/2018/09/20180929-113146.html
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/03/18 02:56 AM

Nouvel échec pour Francesco Del Balso devant la Cour d'appel

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/j...esco-del-balso-devant-la-cour-dappel.php
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/03/18 11:43 AM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/10/03/un-fleuriste-de-66-ans-a-ete-pris-pour-cible

66-year-old florist targeted
Organized crime victim shot three bullets on chest Saturday

A man was shot three times on Saturday morning in southwestern Montreal is a 66-year-old florist known for his criminal record and links to organized crime.

Antonio Iannacci was still hospitalized in a serious condition yesterday, three days after having the thorax pierced with three bullets in an alley near the intersection of Monk Boulevard and Springland Street, in the Ville-Émard district, Le Newspaper .

The major crime investigators of the SPVM are still trying to identify the suspect shooter and determine the motive of the attempted murder at the expense of the sexagenarian who was not content to grow roses peacefully.

"You do not know who you're dealing with"

"Tony" Iannacci (whose criminal record includes convictions of drugs, theft and fraud) is the owner of the Elsa florist trade, located on Monk Boulevard, near which he was shot Saturday.

Antonio Iannacci during a visit to the Montreal courthouse in 2011.
PHOTO ARCHIVE
Antonio Iannacci during a visit to the Montreal courthouse in 2011.

In 2007, to avoid losing this business in a bankruptcy, he asked a friend to serve him as a nominee. The latter accepted, but two years later, Iannacci returned to see him to resume his flower shop.

The victim reported in court that Iannacci went to her home with henchmen, including one named "Paulo" who claimed $ 10,000 on the spot.

"You do not know who you're dealing with," Iannacci added. His "friend" refused and was hit in the head.


Mafia and street gang

The SPVM Organized Crime Division determined that "Paulo" was Lamartine Severus Paul, an influential member of the Reds and a cousin of street gang leader Ducarme Joseph.

A search of the offices of a mafia-related contractor had allowed investigators to seize documents showing that Paul was working "contract" in debt collection and extortion.

Guilty of criminal harassment, Iannacci escaped with two years in prison.

His accomplice Paul was also sentenced, but in August 2012, a gunman murdered him at his home in Laval. Duc Ducharme Joseph suffered the same fate two years later in 2014, in the Saint-Michel district.

According to court documents, "Kenny" Joseph was hunted by the mafia. The late godfather Vito Rizzuto, who died in 2013, would have liked to have him "alive to make him suffer" because he suspected him of killing his son Nick Rizzuto Jr in 2009.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/03/18 11:57 AM

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/j...uitte-davoir-decharge-une-arme-a-feu.php

A man acquitted of unloading a firearm

he masked assailant who fired in daylight in the foot of businessman Tony Elian last March in downtown Montreal is still on the run. A man detained for six months for this crime has recently been acquitted of the most serious charges against him, since his presence on the scene has finally proved "improbable".

Tony Elian, owner of a luxury men's clothing store on Peel Street, was hit on the foot on March 12 at about 11:40 am. In his escape, the gunman had abandoned a 12 gauge rifle on the sidewalk. in front of the Georgio Gruppa Roma shop. The police believed they had snatched the shooter a few days later, when Kevin Buehler II was charged with unloading a weapon with the intention of hurting Tony Elian and committing a robbery using a firearm. fire.

But a video showing Kevin Buehler II moments later in Saint-Viateur Street, in another part of the city, made "improbable, although not impossible" that he is the masked shooter, explained the prosecutor of the Crown, M e Jean-François Roy, 21 September 2018.

Kevin Buehler II was not, however, fully cleared in this case. As his fingerprints - and those of two men - were found on the pair of ski goggles worn by the assailant, the accused pleaded guilty to disguise with intent. He was acquitted of the other three counts.

The 29-year-old admitted to providing these glasses to an "individual" involved in a conflict with the victim. In addition, Mr. Buehler was "aware of a serious conflict between individuals and the victim in this case," said M e Martin Subak, defense lawyer presenting the summary of facts.

Although there is no evidence that the accused knew the circumstances of the crime, he should have known that this pair of glasses would be used when committing a crime, Subak said.

RELEASED

With virtually no criminal history, Kevin Buehler II was released the same day by Justice Suzanne Custom two weeks ago. He had served the equivalent of nine months of pre-trial detention since his arrest.

Tony Elian seemed targeted by enemies in the months leading up to this attack. The Police Department of the City of Montreal had to defuse a suspicious package last December in front of his shop. A Molotov cocktail had also been thrown at his establishment a year earlier and his vehicle was set on fire in the entrance to his home in Westmount. Tony Elian attended the funeral of former mob boss Vito Rizzuto in December 2013, according to TVA News.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/03/18 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment
https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/10/03/un-fleuriste-de-66-ans-a-ete-pris-pour-cible

66-year-old florist targeted
Organized crime victim shot three bullets on chest Saturday

A man was shot three times on Saturday morning in southwestern Montreal is a 66-year-old florist known for his criminal record and links to organized crime.

Antonio Iannacci was still hospitalized in a serious condition yesterday, three days after having the thorax pierced with three bullets in an alley near the intersection of Monk Boulevard and Springland Street, in the Ville-Émard district, Le Newspaper .

The major crime investigators of the SPVM are still trying to identify the suspect shooter and determine the motive of the attempted murder at the expense of the sexagenarian who was not content to grow roses peacefully.

"You do not know who you're dealing with"

"Tony" Iannacci (whose criminal record includes convictions of drugs, theft and fraud) is the owner of the Elsa florist trade, located on Monk Boulevard, near which he was shot Saturday.

Antonio Iannacci during a visit to the Montreal courthouse in 2011.
PHOTO ARCHIVE
Antonio Iannacci during a visit to the Montreal courthouse in 2011.

In 2007, to avoid losing this business in a bankruptcy, he asked a friend to serve him as a nominee. The latter accepted, but two years later, Iannacci returned to see him to resume his flower shop.

The victim reported in court that Iannacci went to her home with henchmen, including one named "Paulo" who claimed $ 10,000 on the spot.

"You do not know who you're dealing with," Iannacci added. His "friend" refused and was hit in the head.


Mafia and street gang

The SPVM Organized Crime Division determined that "Paulo" was Lamartine Severus Paul, an influential member of the Reds and a cousin of street gang leader Ducarme Joseph.

A search of the offices of a mafia-related contractor had allowed investigators to seize documents showing that Paul was working "contract" in debt collection and extortion.

Guilty of criminal harassment, Iannacci escaped with two years in prison.

His accomplice Paul was also sentenced, but in August 2012, a gunman murdered him at his home in Laval. Duc Ducharme Joseph suffered the same fate two years later in 2014, in the Saint-Michel district.

According to court documents, "Kenny" Joseph was hunted by the mafia. The late godfather Vito Rizzuto, who died in 2013, would have liked to have him "alive to make him suffer" because he suspected him of killing his son Nick Rizzuto Jr in 2009.


Apparently he was connected to Tony Magi.

https://www.pressreader.com/canada/montreal-gazette/20110512/287350493285616
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/04/18 12:34 AM

https://lecourant.ca/articles/2505-...-ans-de-prison.html#.W7VApy0XsUU.twitter

Four henchmen sentenced to two years in prison

Gabriel Auclair 26, Kevin Manno, 25, Marc-André Di Schiavi, 28, and Daniel Santana Terreno, 36, pleaded guilty on September 17, 2018 to the Mont-Laurier courthouse on introductory charges break-in and armed aggression.

Judge Jean-Jacques Gagné immediately sentenced him to two years 'imprisonment, two years' probation, a life ban on possession weapons and the obligation to submit to a life sentence. DNA sampling.

The four individuals, three of whom come from Montreal and one from Deux-Montagnes, have a criminal record in terms of drugs and armed assaults. They are known to the police.

AGGRESSION
On September 6, 2018, four hooded individuals broke into a garage located at the back of a residence on the road to Lac Nadeau in Mont-Laurier. A person was doing mechanical work there. She warned her assailants that there were cameras. The latter hit her in the head and then fled.

A call was placed at 911 at 23:35 to report the break and enter and the assault. About ten minutes later, the four suspects were intercepted in a high-risk operation on Hébert Street in Mont-Laurier. They were arrested and taken to the police station of the Sûreté du Québec (SQ).

During the arrest of the suspects, the police found a baseball bat in the vehicle with traces of blood. It was sent to the Forensic Science and Forensic Sciences Laboratory.

THE APPEARANCE
The four individuals appeared the next day at the Mont-Laurier Courthouse to be charged. They presented themselves in white tracksuits provided by the police, their clothes having been seized and also sent to the laboratory of forensic science and forensics for clues.

The defendants returned to court on September 17 to undergo their bail hearing. They eventually pleaded guilty and, at the joint suggestion of the defense attorneys and the criminal and penal prosecutor, Justice Jean-Jacques Gagné imposed a sentence of two years' imprisonment.

When questioned by Justice Gagné on the theory of prosecution, the criminal and penal prosecutor stated that "the victim has a history of drugs and it is an order to pick him up and bring him somewhere else."

Moreover, the four individuals had been charged with attempted kidnapping, but a conditional sentence was handed down when they registered their plea of ​​guilty. The four men were represented by Mr. Benoit Cliche and Mr. André Laporte, two lawyers known to have defended in the past close individuals or allegedly part of the Hells Angels.

In closing, Justice Gagné added that the accused are doing well. They left the court smiling and even pushed the audacity to applaud.

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Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/08/18 01:28 PM

Attempted murder in Pierrefonds

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...tm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/09/18 10:33 PM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...ur-dune-luxueuse-residence-de-blainville

Two vehicles burned in the drive way of a luxurious Blainville residence.

Two vehicles parked in the entrance of an opulent residence in Blainville, in the Laurentians, were burned in the night from Monday to Tuesday.

Both sport utility vehicles (SUVs) blazed around 3.30am. Fortunately, the fire did not spread to the house and no one was injured.

According to our information, Molotov cocktails could have been used by the malefactor (s).

Both SUVs were parked in the entrance of 1207 Maurice-Cullen Street.

Investigators went to the scene this morning, which is currently considered suspect by the police.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/09/18 10:35 PM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/10/09/plus-de-106-kilos-de-cocaine-saisis-au-port-de-montreal

More than 106 kilos of cocaine seized at the Port of Montreal

Canada Border Services officers seized more than 100 kilograms of cocaine at the end of September at the Port of Montreal.

According to the authorities, more than 106 kilograms of cocaine were found in one of the containers transported by a ship arriving from the Dominican Republic on 24 September.

"It was during the unloading of the ship that the drug was discovered," said Dominic McNeely, spokesperson for the Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA).

The cocaine was concealed in four bags of nylon and placed in the container, which contained many boxes of men's shirts.

The drug has been handed over to the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, which will be responsible for further investigation.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/11/18 12:40 AM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...n--pour-quatre-contrebandiers-de-tabac-1

Fines totaling $ 1.1 million for four tobacco smugglers

Recognized as guilty of offenses related to contraband tobacco, four men were sentenced by the court to pay fines totaling $ 1.1 million, announced Revenue Quebec Wednesday.

"These people were particularly blamed for selling, delivering or having in their possession tobacco for retail sale in Quebec whose package was not identified in accordance with the Tobacco Tax Act. In addition, they were not registered with Revenu Québec's files and did not hold any of the permits required by the Act to carry on commercial activities related to tobacco products, "Revenu Québec said in a statement.

Pierre Collin, of Trois-Rivières, is the one who has received the highest salt penalty among the group. It will have to repay to the state a sum of 791 800 $ within the next 30 days.

Trever Diabo, of Kahnawake, has been fined $ 154,800, to be paid within 24 months.

Dave Beauchamp of Joliette will also have 24 months to pay the $ 87,000 fine imposed by the court.


Finally, Serge Legault of Gatineau will have to repay $ 66,496 within three months.

"Revenu Québec wishes to inform persons carrying on commercial activities related to tobacco products that they must hold the permits required by the Act to manufacture, import, transport, store or wholesale tobacco products", call Revenu Québec.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/11/18 08:35 PM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...c-cartierville-la-victime-identifiee.php

Murder in Ahuntsic-Cartierville: the identified victim

The 57-year-old man killed early this morning in a large apartment building in the Ahuntsic-Cartierville sector is Bruno Turcotte, La Presse learned . Mr. Turcotte was known to the police for narcotics.

In January 2016, he was sentenced to nine months in prison, with a three-year probation period, for a drug possession and trafficking case.

He was attacked around 7:20 am in a building located at 10, boulevard Henri-Bourassa West, at the corner of boulevard Saint-Laurent.

"Neighbors have contacted 911 for a fight in a fourth-floor apartment. When the police came to the scene, they found a bleeding man in the hallway. The ambulance technicians were called and the victim lost consciousness during transport. When he arrived at the hospital, his death was noted, "says SPVM officer Jean-Pierre Brabant.

According to our information, the man displayed several open wounds in the upper body. The police do not know how the man was killed, whether the wounds were made by a firearm, stab or other object. An autopsy will be performed to determine it.

For the moment, the police have not mentioned any description of a suspect or suspects. Neighbors heard noises but did not see anything. Videos captured by surveillance cameras will, however, be viewed by SPVM Major Crime investigators who also carried out door-to-door interviews with neighbors.

This is the 21 th murder in Montreal this year, compared to 16 for the same period last year.
Posted By: NickleCity

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/11/18 08:37 PM

QUESTIONS ABOUT MONTREAL MOB HISTORY

According to CBC News' Corrine Smith Vito Rizzuto was formerly inducted into the Bonanno family in 1981. It is assumed Vic Controni and Paolo Violi were made in the Bonanno family. Can anyone point me to a newspaper article or book stating such? Is there a date?

Also, do we know when the Bonannos took firm control of Montreal? I ask because Edwards makes it sound like Bonanno control was in question and not fully established before 1967/68 --unless I'm reading him wrong.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/12/18 01:25 AM

Originally Posted by NickleCity
QUESTIONS ABOUT MONTREAL MOB HISTORY

According to CBC News' Corrine Smith Vito Rizzuto was formerly inducted into the Bonanno family in 1981. It is assumed Vic Controni and Paolo Violi were made in the Bonanno family. Can anyone point me to a newspaper article or book stating such? Is there a date?

Also, do we know when the Bonannos took firm control of Montreal? I ask because Edwards makes it sound like Bonanno control was in question and not fully established before 1967/68 --unless I'm reading him wrong.


Vic Cotroni was probably made before ´54 I read, his brother Pep went with Greco to apalachin.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/12/18 11:01 AM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/10/12/un-homme-tue-a-laval

LAVAL | A man in his thirties was killed on Thursday night in Laval.

The crime was committed on the ground of the car dealer Vinci inc. on René-Lévesque Boulevard, west of 90 th Avenue in Chomedey sector.

According to the Laval police, the event took place around 8:50 pm. The victim has been identified but has not been revealed to the public.

The investigators established a security perimeter in order to proceed with the analysis of the scene.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/12/18 11:09 AM

Originally Posted by Ciment
https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/10/12/un-homme-tue-a-laval

LAVAL | A man in his thirties was killed on Thursday night in Laval.

The crime was committed on the ground of the car dealer Vinci inc. on René-Lévesque Boulevard, west of 90 th Avenue in Chomedey sector.

According to the Laval police, the event took place around 8:50 pm. The victim has been identified but has not been revealed to the public.

The investigators established a security perimeter in order to proceed with the analysis of the scene.


The business is run by Antonio Vinci and his sons.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/12/18 12:13 PM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...t-envers-le-journaliste-felix-seguin.php

Mafioso accused of death threats against journalist Félix Séguin

Francesco Del Balso, a Montreal mafia lieutenant sentenced in the wake of the massive Colisée investigation, will be appearing this morning at the Courthouse in Drummondville for allegedly uttering threats against TVA journalist Félix Séguin. learned La Presse.

The events occurred yesterday at the Courthouse in Drummondville. According to our information, 48-year-old Del Balso reportedly went to the courthouse to file a harassment complaint against the journalist and to impose an obligation to keep the peace - commonly known as 810 - against Félix Séguin.

But in the face of the authorities' refusal, Del Balso reportedly made threatening remarks against the journalist alleged to have been heard by a police officer and a lawyer. One of these witnesses reportedly filed a complaint and Del Balso was arrested. He spent the night in cell and will be accused of death threats this morning.

Angry

According to our information, the mafioso is angry with the journalist since the broadcast of a report on September 13 in which it was alleged threats allegedly made by Del Balso to the owners of a pizzeria in Quebec, and which revealed even the presence of the mafioso in the Old Capital.

Del Balso, who was sentenced to 15 years as a penitentiary for gangsterism, cocaine import and trafficking after the Coliseum investigation, is on parole and has not yet completed his sentence. This case could result in his return to a penitentiary. If so, it would be the fourth time since he was released after serving two-thirds of his sentence in February 2016.

In May 2017, a stranger entered Del Balso's home in Laval, presumably to kill him, and threatened his wife and one of his sons with a gun. It would be because of threats to his life that the mafioso was invited to settle far from Montreal, for the rest of his sentence, which will end in about a year.

Joined by La Presse, Félix Séguin did not want to comment on the matter and sent us to a Quebecor spokesperson to whom we left a message.

Del Balso is the individual who intimidates the contractor Martin Carrier of Quebec during the Colisée investigation and whose conversation, which was recorded by the RCMP, was broadcast during the work of the Charbonneau Commission.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/12/18 04:15 PM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...e-gerant-dune-entreprise-tue-a-laval.php

The man killed last night in Laval is Alessandro Vinci, 31, manager of Automobile Vinci, where the crime was committed, La Presse learned .


Alessandro Vinci, 31, was manager of the company Vinci Automobile.

PHOTO TAKEN FROM LINKEDIN

The victim is also the son of the president of the trade. On his Linkedin page, Alessandro Vinci introduced himself as the sales manager of the company specialized in the sale of used vehicles and the repair of vehicles, located on boulevard Lévesque, in the Chomedey district.

According to our information, between 8 pm and 9 pm, the closing time of the business, an individual with a pistol entered the company and fired several shots at the victim who was in his office and who did not see his attacker arrive.

Laval's major crime investigators began the investigation before transferring the file to their colleagues in the Sûreté du Québec's Crimes Against the Person division, presumably because the murder could be linked to organized crime. Investigators and crime scene technicians from the Sûreté du Québec (SQ) are also on the scene this morning to gather testimonials and clues. Images captured by the institution's surveillance cameras will be examined by the bloodhounds.

Alessandro Vinci did not have a criminal record and was not linked to any known criminal activity, according to police information.

This is the fifth murder committed this year in Laval.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/12/18 10:50 PM

^^^^
Re: the last few posts about Del Balso and Alessandro Vinci.

Mafia leader Francesco Del Balso charged with threatening TVA reporter
https://montrealgazette.com/news/ma...o-charged-with-threatening-tva-reporter/

Update: Deadly shooting in Laval 'could be linked to organized crime'
https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...aval-could-be-linked-to-organized-crime/
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/15/18 09:00 PM

Murder in Montreal: the killer fired through the door of housing

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...e-au-travers-de-la-porte-du-logement.php
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/16/18 02:51 AM

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...-lasalle-facing-possible-4-year-sentence

Man who helped manufacture illegal firearms in LaSalle facing possible 4-year sentence
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/16/18 09:40 PM


Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/21/18 12:59 PM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/10/19/incendie-criminel-dans-une-pizzeria

Criminal fire in a pizzeria
The damage, which was concentrated inside, would have done for at least $ 200,000 worth of damage.

The arson of a pizzeria in Belœil in the night from Thursday to Friday brings back bad memories to its owner, he who had been the victim of similar events several times in 2014.
"I do not have a problem with anyone," says Hasan Kayali of Pizzeria Chez Dino. It's frustrating and unfortunate that people are trying to make me lose my business like that. "


Hasan Kayali
Owner pizzeria
Police report that two individuals were seen by a witness in front of the shop throwing an incendiary object, probably a Molotov cocktail, before fleeing.

Competition

"We are talking about two white men, aged between 25 and 30 years old. Investigators will try to find pictures of nearby businesses to get a better description, "said Captain Francis Lepage of the Richelieu-Saint-Laurent Intermunicipal Police Board.


In the world of catering for 15 years, Mr. Kayali does not know the real motives of incendiaries, but he believes that "the competition" could have decided to set fire to his pizzeria.

"I'm sure," said the 37-year-old in a confident tone. Currently, it is a quieter period, the numbers are lower than usual. If that's what happened, it's just disloyal. "

Rebuild


In 2014, he recalls having been the victim of four arson attempts, including "one that has succeeded", but does not believe that the Friday is linked.

For its part, the police indicate taking "all possible tracks seriously".

"Nothing is left out. We are at a preliminary stage of the investigation, "says Captain Lepage.

According to the owner of the pizzeria, the fire caused at least $ 200,000 in damages. The damage was concentrated inside.

"When the employees came in this morning, everyone was crying. It's difficult, admits Hasan Kayali. I am assured, which is good news. As soon as the paperwork is signed, we will be able to start renovations and open as soon as possible. "
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/23/18 01:20 PM

Re: the restaurant in Quebec City whose owners were threatened by Francesco del Balso.

La pizzeria de Québec qui était visée par la mafia ferme ses portes

https://www.journaldequebec.com/2018/10/23/la-pizzeria-qui-etait-visee-par-la-mafia-ferme-ses-portes
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/24/18 09:17 AM

I wonder if the Vinci family is related to the sicilian Michele Vinci well known in Toronto underworld.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/24/18 07:23 PM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...mende-de-75-000-pour-un-entrepreneur.php

A judge recently sentenced a construction contractor, Serafino Oliverio, and his company, Développement Olicon, to pay a fine of $ 75,000 to the Quebec Revenue Agency (ARQ) for taxes not paid to the government.

A summary of the facts of the ARQ obtained by La Presse indicates that section 223 of the Act respecting the Québec sales tax and section 191 1 of the Excise Tax Act stipulate that every building builder registered for taxes, who rents a new property intended for sale, is deemed to have sold this property to oneself.

In this case, the builder must remit the Quebec sales tax and the excise tax as if he had sold the property. However, the company 9087-1195 Québec inc.- Développement Olicon - did not remit the GST and the QST following the rental of new condos intended for sale. The company and its boss would have behaved this way twice, when they were informed to pay the taxes by the agency after the first time.

THE SHADOW OF COLISÉE

In November 2013, Mr. Oliverio gave up the retention of four handguns that he owned, after the Quebec Firearms Controller refused to renew his licenses, "because the Coliseum investigation established that he was maintaining relationships with the Rizzuto clan and that the Rizzuto clan is known as an Italian criminal organization ", could be read on the refusal note produced by the controller.

For two years, Mr. Oliverio, who was a member of a shooting club, objected to the controller's actions in court. During the process, counsel, M e Isabelle Mercier, including summary filed 400 pages of the Colosseum investigation by the RCMP against the Montreal Mafia in the early 2000s, with particular reference to the day of April 19, 2005.

That day, contractor Tony Magi was abducted by strangers and managed to escape. According to the summary of the investigation soon after Magi, Serafino Oliverio - aka Sergio Lopez - and an individual linked to the Mafia, Tony Volpato, met one of the lieutenants of Francesco Arcadi, Francesco Del Balso, Laennec in the bar, Laval. During this meeting, Del Balso asked Tony Magi what the individuals looked like and how he managed to remove his handcuffs.

However, Serafino Oliverio, in his petitions for the recovery of his firearms licenses, stated that the reasons for the Firearms Officer's refusal were false, unfounded and damaging to his reputation, and that the refusal was unjustified. He described himself as a respected businessman and a responsible citizen who has always been exemplary. He wrote that he always handled his weapons with care and stored them in a safe and lawful manner. He stated that he had never been the subject of a criminal charge related to his firearms, or even committed a violent act on himself or another person related to his firearms.

Mr. Oliverio has no criminal record.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/26/18 11:34 AM

Canada, the last war of Vito Rizzuto.
Italian Interview with Antonio Nicaso

https://www.articolo21.org/2018/10/...to-rizzuto-intervista-ad-antonio-nicaso/
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/26/18 02:32 PM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...tony-accurso-meurt-dans-une-embardee.php

Posted on 26 October 2018 at 06:21 | Updated at 09:49

Tony Accurso's eldest son dies in a lurch.

The 43-year-old man who died last night in a lurch in Sainte-Marguerite-du-Lac-Masson in the Laurentians, is Jimmy Accurso, 43, the eldest son of businessman Tony Accurso, have confirmed police sources at La Presse .

James (Jimmy) Accurso, photographed last June during ... (David Boily, La Presse Archives) - image 1.0
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James (Jimmy) Accurso, photographed last June during the trial of his father for whom he testified.

DAVID BOILY, LA PRESSE ARCHIVES

According to our information, the victim was a passenger in a Tesla-branded car driven by a local resident, businessman and lobbyist Sebastien Varin, 38 years old. Mr. Varin is one of the owners and managers of the Manoir Saint-Sauveur hotel, located about twenty kilometers away.

Slightly injured, he was arrested early Friday morning for allegedly driving while impaired and caused fatal lurching. He is being questioned by police and could face criminal charges of dangerous driving causing death and impaired driving. A blood test was done to determine his blood alcohol level.

Missed curve

At around midnight 45, the suspect missed a curve on route 370 in Sainte-Marguerite-du-Lac-Masson, and swerved, which cost the life of his passenger, whose death was observed in the hospital. .

It was another driver who saw the damaged car and alerted the Sûreté du Québec (SQ). This citizen will be met later in the day by police investigators to give him his observations.

No other vehicle was involved in the accident.

The Sûreté du Québec has asked a reconstitutionist to move to the site of the lurch to add its investigative elements.

Active in business

Jimmy Accurso, a resident of Deux-Montagnes, was director and then vice-president of Simard-Beaudry, his father's construction company, before his father was charged with corruption and selling the family empire. He now chaired a Laval company specializing in the management of heavy vehicle fleets by GPS.

Tony Accurso was sentenced to four years in jail last July for his involvement in municipal corruption in Laval. But he appealed the verdict and remains on conditional release for the duration of the judicial process. His son Jimmy had testified in his favor before the court twice this year.

- With The Canadian Press
Posted By: pmac

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/26/18 03:10 PM

What the fucks a lurch my candian friends
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/26/18 03:36 PM

Originally Posted by pmac
What the fucks a lurch my candian friends


Dictionary definition: make an abrupt, unsteady, uncontrolled movement or series of movements; stagger.
"the car lurched forward"
synonyms: stagger, stumble, wobble, sway, reel, roll, weave, pitch, totter, blunder More
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/26/18 03:45 PM

https://www.breitbart.com/border/20...ing-stolen-fuel-found-near-texas-border/

Gulf Cartel Truck Hauling Stolen Fuel Found near Texas Border
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/26/18 04:47 PM

https://montrealgazette.com/news/man-who-protected-mob-boss-during-shootout-gets-day-parole

Man who protected Mob boss during shootout gets day parole
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/27/18 04:21 AM

Originally Posted by Ciment
https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/09/01/un-chef-de-gang-est-pince-avec-de-la-drogue-en-prison

An alleged street gang leader in Montreal will face justice after being caught with jar and speed tablets in jail.

The influential Gregory Woolley was charged earlier this month with possession of methamphetamine and cannabis for the purpose of trafficking.
The alleged offenses allegedly occurred on January 2 at Montreal's century-old prison, commonly known as Bordeaux, where Woolley is being detained pending trial for other charges already against him.

According to our information, the 46-year-old man was reportedly surprised by correctional officers during a drug transaction with a visitor in the prison's visiting room.


After seizing the narcotics, the prison authorities then called on the Sûreté du Québec police officers to investigate and submit a file to the Director of Criminal and Penal Prosecutions (DPCP).

A prosecutor finally authorized the filing of two charges on 6 August.

Hells School Club


Gregory Woolley has been in custody for more than two years, in relation to another court case.

The facts alleged in this pending case are subject to a publication ban.

According to The Black Book of the Hells Angels , Woolley remains to this day "the only black to have been admitted into the big family" of this biker gang in Quebec.

In 1998, in the midst of the biker war against the Rock Machine, Maurice's former bodyguard "Mom" Boucher had received his jacket from the Rockers, the club-club of the elite chapter Nomads des Hells.

That same year, under the recommendation of the former Hells Chief, Woolley founded the Syndicates, a street gang associated with bikers in business and whose motto is Do or Die .

The Rockers, like the Nomads of the Hells chapter, were disbanded after the Spring 2001 police operation, during which Woolley was arrested and sentenced to a long term penitentiary for gangsterism and drug trafficking.


Trafic de cocaïne: deux influents chefs de gang écroués

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...ers-de-gangs-de-rue-condamnes-a-huit-ans

Projet Magot: Gregory Woolley plaide coupable

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...agot-gregory-woolley-plaide-coupable.php
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/27/18 09:12 AM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Canada, the last war of Vito Rizzuto.
Italian Interview with Antonio Nicaso

https://www.articolo21.org/2018/10/...to-rizzuto-intervista-ad-antonio-nicaso/


Mafia families who must agree, are they always historical?
<< No ... because in Canada it's different: to understand Canada we must take into account that the Canadian mafia like the American one is a sort of melting pot, in the sense that there are not only Sicilians, but inside the same organization there are criminals of Apulian origin, criminals of Calabrian origins, there are various components that often struggle to find the synthesis. At the time of the father of Rizzuto the Canadian mafia depended on the American, with Vito Rizzuto instead the Canadian mafia has become somewhat independent, has found a sort of operational autonomy, no longer depends on the families of New York, or the family of Bonanno in a particular way, and this was one of the big news and one of the great successes of Vito Rizzuto to get out of the Bonanno family, from the moment when this historic family from New York,
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/27/18 09:26 PM

“Gang leaders Gregory Woolley, Lou Sprinces Cadet plead guilty to cocaine trafficking charges”

https://montrealgazette.com/news/ga...d-guilty-to-cocaine-trafficking-charges/
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/29/18 11:31 AM

The brother of the boss Desjardins was killed, believes the police
The man, who seemed to have withdrawn from criminal cases, disappeared a year ago in Laval

The older brother of Raynald Desjardins, Jacques, who died a year ago, was probably murdered in a settlement of the mafia.
"The thesis currently favored by our investigators is that it is a homicide related to organized crime," said Inspector Guy Lapointe, of the Sûreté du Québec (SQ), interviewed by Le Journal on this case

.Jacques Desjardins, 68, had left his home in Laval, around 8 am, on the morning of October 30, 2017, telling his family that he had to go to "an appointment".
A trap
According to our sources, the police believe that this sexagenarian having already dipped in the importation of narcotics was thus caught in a trap, and possibly by an acquaintance of which he was not suspicious.
Jacques Desjardins never gave a sign of life afterwards. His white Volkswagen Passat was found two days later, abandoned on a residential street in the Sainte-Rose neighborhood of Laval.
The officers combed through it, but the assailants left no trace of the body behind them, nor any indication of what happened to the man wearing a North Face black fleece and running shoes. gray and blue.
The investigators of the SQ's crime against the person section are obviously dealing with professionals.
Vengeance against his brother?
The relatives of Jacques Desjardins were quick to ask the police for help saying fear for his safety.
The missing man appeared to have withdrawn from criminal cases for good after being arrested in Peru in 2012 for seizing 48 kilograms of cocaine. Suspected of financing the importation of this drug into Canada, he was finally released.
That is why, among the theses considered to explain this crime, police sources believe that the officials wanted to take revenge on the mafia Raynald Desjardins by eliminating a member of his family.
Or, that Jacques Desjardins was eliminated after they tried to extract information about his brother, who is currently serving a 14-year prison sentence for getting rid of a rival.
Raynald Desjardins made enemies during the bloody power struggle that tore the Montreal mafia after the arrest of godfather Vito Rizzuto in 2004 for three murders committed in New York 23 years earlier.

Another appointment

In the fall of 2011, Raynald Desjardins, who was trying to seize control of the mafia with certain allies, was tracked by the SQ and the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) after surviving a murder attempt at the AK-47. At the time, one of his bodyguards was the son of the deceased, Hugo Desjardins.
The police intercepted the texting of the boss while he planned his revenge against a former partner who had betrayed him, the aspiring sponsor Salvatore Montagna.
Moreover, Montagna had also been invited to an appointment before dying. He falsely believed he was going to meet Raynald Desjardins to settle their dispute on the island of Vaudry, in Charlemagne, where he died of bullets on the morning of November 24, 2011.
A month later, Raynald Desjardins was arrested with half a dozen accomplices.
♦ Jacques Desjardins was sentenced to four years of penitentiary in 1997 for importing hashish. The RCMP also arrested him in 1992 for importing cocaine into the Port of Montreal, but was released from charges for lack of evidence.
 
A CLAN IN THE MIRE
August 11, 2005
While Raynald Desjardins is imprisoned for plotting to import 740 kg of cocaine with Hells Angels, the trafficker and trade unionist Giovanni Johnny Bertolo is shot dead in Montreal. From then on, Desjardins turns his back on the Rizzuto clan, of which he was an influential collaborator, for allowing the murder of his best friend.
The morning of September 16, 2011
Desjardins fights unscathed after he and one of his bodyguards, Jonathan Mignacca, were targets of an AK-47 gunman who fired 23 shots at their BMW branded SUVs. Boulevard Lévesque, Laval.
November 4, 2012
Desjardins brother-in-law and ex-Montreal No. 2 Joe Di Maulo is shot dead by a gunman in front of his home in Blainville, while godfather Vito Rizzuto was released from a US penitentiary after nine years of incarceration.
January 22, 2013
A friend and business partner of Desjardins, Gaétan Gosselin, is murdered by members of a street gang in the pay of the mafia, in front of his home in the Mercier neighborhood. Since 2011, a dozen relatives and associates of Desjardins have been murdered.
April 9, 2013
The former Desjardins corps guard in Montreal, Juan Ramon Fernandez, nicknamed Joe Bravo, is riddled with bullets in Sicily. Having become an informer, one of the killers testified before the Italian courts in October 2016 that "Desjardins was the one leading the war against Rizzuto".

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/10/29/le-frere-du-caid-desjardins-a-ete-tue-croit-la-police
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/30/18 02:57 AM

Police recordings provide rare glimpse inside Montreal's underworld

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...are-glimpse-inside-montreals-underworld/
Posted By: BarrettM

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/30/18 03:17 AM

Could anybody make a Wikipedia-esque chart of the Rizzuto family, historical leadership?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/30/18 11:28 AM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/10/30/des-chicanes-de-famille

The "family" that mafia, Hells Angels and street gang leaders had formed to better share the Montreal drug market was plagued by mistrust and rivalry.

This is revealed by documents from Operation Magot that resulted in gang leader Gregory Woolley being sentenced to eight years for gangsterism and cocaine trafficking last Friday, previously banned from publication.

Arrested in the fall of 2015, Woolley was considered the number one street gang and one of the most powerful "decision makers" in organized crime in Quebec.

The only Black to have been a member of a Hells school club in Quebec, Woolley was a bridge between bikers, mafia and gangs to orchestrate the supply and sale of cocaine in Montreal.

"Gregory Woolley is the dominant figure [of organized crime] currently on the island of Montreal," said a police informant from Montreal in 2013.


Paying but ...

The 46-year-old gangster controlled, among other things, the Hochelaga-Maisonneuve territory, where he sells for more than $ 1 million worth of "coke" each month.

"We are a family," the acting mafia boss Stefano Sollecito told him, unaware that the police were registering him.

Yet this marriage of reason between criminal factions was stormy even though Woolley wanted to "avoid problems".

The 650,000 conversations intercepted during this investigation by the Montreal Regional Mixed Squad turned "all around" with territorial conflicts, "communication problems", liars and mafiosi "that arouse suspicion," said Judge Daniel Bédard in an earlier decision.

frictions

In addition, the alliance suspected the presence of "moles" who spoke to the police and raised the possibility of cleaning up.

At a meeting attended by Woolley and Sollecito, it was said that the brothers Andrea and Salvatore Scoppa, influential followers of the late godfather Vito Rizzuto, were no longer trusted.

The possibility of putting one of the Scoppa "apart" was discussed, but Leonardo Rizzuto, son of the godfather Rizzuto and one of the presumed leaders of this alliance, opposed it, according to the survey.


"Like a marshmallow ..."

Sollecito had complained to Loris Cavaliere, the former Mafia lawyer who was convicted of gangsterism in 2017, comparing Leo Rizzuto to "a marshmallow" with "not enough column to tell others what to do".

Salvatore Scoppa was shot by a gunman on his way out of a restaurant in Terrebonne on February 21, 2017. The fugitive Frédérick Silva, one of the 10 most wanted criminals in Quebec, is the only accused in this shootout.

Andrew Scoppa was charged and detained for 15 months after a large seizure of cocaine in the Tower of Canadians, but was released from any charges last May.

His right-hand man, Steve Obadia, was murdered in Laval a month later.

Sollecito and Rizzuto, whom the police also informed of a plot to murder them in 2015, have been successful in the court proceedings last winter.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/30/18 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by BarrettM
Could anybody make a Wikipedia-esque chart of the Rizzuto family, historical leadership?


Ask not what your Gangster BB board can do for you – ask what you can do for your Gangster BB board.

— Attributed to John F. Kennedy, January 20, 1961, the date of his inaugural address
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/31/18 01:41 PM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...bureau-de-lex-avocat-loris-cavaliere.php


The Hells Angel Gilles Lambert was seen by police more than 70 times in the offices of former criminal lawyer Loris Cavaliere in 2014 and 2015.

This is demonstrated by a document entitled Analysis of internal and external cameras of the office of M e Cavaliere and neighboring trade, Denim, filed in court during the proceedings of the Mastiff-Magot investigation. It was through this investigation that the Regional Joint Squadron (MRA) and the Proceeds of Crime Division of the Sûreté du Québec defeated a Mafia-Biker-Street Alliance that led organized crime in Montreal on November 19, 2015.

Last Friday, two of the latest defendants pleaded guilty and were sentenced. On Monday, Justice Eric Downs of the Superior Court lifted the publication bans that had been imposed at the beginning of the proceedings, allowing us to reveal the details of this document that La Presse consulted last April.

OFFICES UNDER SURVEILLANCE

At the height of the investigation, the bloodhounds installed cameras directed to the front and back doors, and inside the offices of former criminal lawyer Loris Cavaliere. The locals, suspected by the police to serve as a meeting place for influential members of organized crime, were also riddled with microphones.

The document reveals that the Hells Angel of the Montreal chapter Gilles Lambert was seen about 75 times over a period of 20 months, between March 2014 and the day of the strike, on November 19, 2015.

Yet Lambert, a former Rock Machine turned Hells Angel at the turn of the 2000s, had no case in the courts since he was released by Judge James Brunton along with 30 other SharQc defendants in May 2011, in reason unreasonable unreasonable delays. Lambert was not arrested and charged after the Magot investigation.

The document also indicates that the street gang leader Jean-Philippe Célestin was observed in the former offices of Loris Cavaliere 16 times between March 2014 and his arrest for drug trafficking and gangsterism, a year later. Celestin, however, was a client of the criminal lawyer's office.

The chieftain Andrew Scoppa was seen in the offices of M e Cavaliere 13 times between March 2014 and November 2015, four days in a row in the same month of November.

Gregory Woolley, who was arrested in the Magot project and sentenced to eight years for gangsterism and drug trafficking on Friday, was observed nine times. Woolley, a former member of the Rockers, a late Hells Angels club-school, is the only black person to have risen through the ranks of the Hells Angels organization in Quebec. The police today consider him more than a street gang leader, one of Montreal's most influential organized crime actors, as well as Mafia clan leaders or Hells Angels members. .

The document also indicates that the police considered the interim head of the Montreal Mafia, Stefano Sollecito, and the youngest son of the godfather deceased mafia Leonardo Rizzuto - lawyer and formerly associated with the office of M e Cavaliere - were seen eight once each in the premises of the former criminal lawyer between March 2014 and November 2015.

We also learn that a rising star of the mafia, Marco Claudio Campellone, was observed there on six occasions, including the day of his assassination, on September 18, 2015. Before being killed in front of his home in the Rivière- des-Prairies to 20 h 45, the young man of 24 years was seen entering the offices of M e Cavaliere to 16 h 18 and standing out 15 minutes later.

SECRET CONVERSATIONS

On August 20, 2015, investigators recorded an important discussion in the conference room of Loris Cavaliere's office between Stefano Sollecito, Leonardo Rizzuto and Gregory Woolley, which reveals the ways organized crime works, links between organizations and conflicts that existed at that time. The three men discuss including a certain Gianpietro Tiberio in which they would have little confidence. They talk about taking the territory of Rivière-des-Prairies from Salvatore Scoppa & give it to Tiberio. They also discuss the doubts they have towards brothers Salvatore and Andrew Scoppa and talk about eliminating someone, but Leonardo Rizzuto does not agree.

It was this famous conversation that led to the arrest of Sollecito and Rizzuto on the day of Operation Magot, but one judge concluded that the listening was illegal because Sollecito was a client of the office and Rizzuto, one of the lawyers. The two men were released, but not Woolley because he was not a criminal lawyer client.

On September 14, 2015, influential Hells Angels member Salvatore Cazzetta visited Loris Cavaliere's offices. There is mention of a list of people to be slaughtered found in the home of Sergio Nesparoli. Cazzetta asked for a copy of the list and Loris Cavaliere gave him one.

Loris Cavaliere was arrested in Operation Magot and charged with gangsterism. He pleaded guilty and was sentenced to 34 months in February 2017. He was released on parole last May and is no longer a lawyer.

Leonardo Rizzuto is still facing charges of possession of a weapon and cocaine and being tried in late November.
Posted By: m2w

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/31/18 01:52 PM

so it proofs the rizzuto clan is still very powerful
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/31/18 01:54 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment


On September 14, 2015, influential Hells Angels member Salvatore Cazzetta visited Loris Cavaliere's offices. There is mention of a list of people to be slaughtered found in the home of Sergio Nesparoli. Cazzetta asked for a copy of the list and Loris Cavaliere gave him one.


Pretty reckless to have a hit list on paper.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/31/18 02:05 PM

Mafia montréalaise: fin de règne sous haute tension

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/10/31/fin-de-regne-sous-haute-tension
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/31/18 02:23 PM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/10/31/fin-de-regne-sous-haute-tension

Montreal Mafia: end of reign under high tension

The reign of the last leader of the Montreal mafia ended in a climate so explosive that the police even asked him to "calm the game on the ground."

This is what is learned in the judicial documents of Operation Magot, which broke up an alliance formed by the Mafia, Hells Angels and street gangs to share the drug market three years ago. .

Publication bans on the details of the investigation were lifted after gang leader Gregory Woolley was sentenced to eight years on Friday.
The alliance was undermined by dissension within the mafia, led by Stefano Sollecito, who had succeeded godfather Vito Rizzuto, who died in 2013.

On November 6, 2015, the Regional Joint Organized Crime Squad was apprehensive of an outbreak of violence by warning Sollecito and the son of the late godfather, Leonardo Rizzuto, that they were being targeted for murder of rivals.

"The situation of violence is becoming so worrying [...] that the police are asking Mr. Sollecito to calm the game in the field," Judge Daniel Bédard said in a decision on the case.

Sollecito and Rizzuto were apprehended two weeks later.

During the summer of 2015, the police had also recorded without their knowledge a meeting between Woolley, Sollecito and Rizzuto. The trio was discussing "territorial problems" in Rivière-des-Prairies, their fear of being denounced to the police by "moles" and the possibility of "eliminating certain people," wrote Judge Bédard.

The police also seized a "black list" of mafiosi names whose head was priced during a raid on relatives of a motorcycle gang associated with the Hells, the Devils Ghosts.

Oil on the fire

Two other crimes had thrown oil on the fire of these internal tensions.

On September 29th of that year, the building housing the offices of former Rizzuto clan lawyer Loris Cavaliere was the target of a Molotov cocktail on Saint-Laurent Boulevard. It was here that Sollecito, Rizzuto and Woolley had been spied by the police a month earlier.

This arson attempt coincided with the funeral of Claudio Marco Campellone, a young mafia gangster shot in front of his home in Rivière-des-Prairies.

Campellone, the father of Stefano Sollecito, Rocco, and four other identified mafiosi police surveillance operations in the Magot project were killed between 2014 and 2018.

Stefano Sollecito and Leonardo Rizzuto were finally released from charges of gangsterism and conspiracy last February because they were illegally wiretapped in the offices of lawyer Cavaliere. Nobody has officially succeeded the first to head the mafia.

♦ Rizzuto is still accused of illegally possessing cocaine and two semi-automatic guns found at his home during his arrest. His trial is scheduled in three weeks.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/01/18 08:36 AM

Épiés à l’hôpital, au Toys R Us et jusqu’aux danseuses

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/11/01/epies-a-lhopital-au-toysrus-et-jusquaux-danseuses
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/01/18 03:51 PM

Enquête Magot: Woolley voulait faire témoigner l'ex-policier Benoit Roberge

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...emoigner-lex-policier-benoit-roberge.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/02/18 11:51 AM

Frayeur d’Halloween pour un chef mafieux en danger

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/11/02/frayeur-dhalloween-pour-un-chef-mafieux-en-danger
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/03/18 01:07 PM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/11/03/la-mafia-sarme-aux-etats-unis

Even though they were heads of opposing Mafia's clans, Leonardo Rizzuto and Raynald Desjardins were arrested with pistols from the same US arms trafficker.
This is the amazing discovery that the police made during Operation Magot targeting the son of the late godfather Vito Rizzuto and other leaders of an alliance between the Mafia, the Hells Angels and street gangs to share the narcotics market in Montreal, Le Journal has learned .

Tension was high in the mafia at the time of this raid, three years ago.

Several of his Rizzuto members, including Leonardo Rizzuto and former boss Stefano Sollecito, had already been warned by the police that their heads were priced by rivals.

On November 19, 2015, the Regional Joint Organized Crime Squad apprehended Rizzuto at his luxurious residence in Laval, as well as conducting a search.

In a kitchen cabinet above the refrigerator, the police found two semi-automatic pistols: a .40 caliber Walther P99 and a 6.35 Browning pistol.

At least one of these prohibited weapons was loaded. The police also seized ammunition, about forty bullets.
The serial numbers of the guns had been made up or removed, as is the case with most firearms circulating in the underworld, to prevent the police from finding their source.

Imported from the United States

Investigators from the Sûreté du Québec, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police and the Montréal and Laval police departments involved in this operation nevertheless managed to find the source by other means.

It is a clandestine supplier from the United States where several strains of organized crime in Quebec have been illegally supplied, according to our information.

As evidence, weapons seized in 2011 at the home of Desjardins and two of his acolytes during the investigation of the murder of the aspiring sponsor Salvatore Montagna have also been linked to the same American arms dealer, according to our sources.

Hidden in a couch

Desjardins was at the head of a group that was trying to take control of the Montreal mafia at the expense of the Rizzuto clan.

His loaded pistol, whose serial number had been erased by grinding, was hidden inside the lining of a couch in his living room. Desjardins is currently serving a 14-year sentence.

Leonardo Rizzuto - a 49-year-old lawyer practicing at the same office as Loris Cavaliere, sentenced to 34 months for gangsterism and expunged by the Law Society after Operation Magot - will stand trial for possession of prohibited weapons and drugs. November 21, before a judge of the Court of Quebec.

Cocaine in a jacket

The police officers who arrested him also seized five grams of cocaine in bags hidden in the bottom of a Hugo Boss jacket pocket.

They had also found nearly $ 50,000 in his home, including $ 3,000 wrapped in a nylon stocking.

Rizzuto spent 26 months in pre-trial detention before being released from charges of gangsterism and conspiracy against him in this operation.

In February, a judge ruled that he had been illegally wiretapped by police officers who had recorded him unwittingly in his colleague Cavaliere's office.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/03/18 04:31 PM

https://aboutthemafia.com/newly-released-documents-offer-a-look-inside-the-montreal-mafia

Newly released documents offer a look inside the Montreal Mafia
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/04/18 11:56 AM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/11/04/le-condo-dun-caid-sera-bientot-mis-a-vendre-pour-855000

The high-end condo, of the dangerous leader of the Montreal Irish mob that was forced to move to a penitentiary, will soon be on sale for $ 855,000 in L'ÃŽle-des-SÅ“urs.

The judicial sale of Shane Kenneth Maloney's luxury apartment has been authorized by the courts, at the request of the Toronto Dominion Bank (TD), according to documents consulted by Le Journal .

The bank had applied to the Superior Court to recover a debt of more than half a million dollars on a mortgage loan that the West end gang trafficker had not paid since he was sentenced to 10 years. years of incarceration, in the spring of 2017.

Drug operation


Shane Kenneth
Maloney Inmate
L'usissier Thierry Pirro from Laval was appointed to sell this condo located on the seventh and last floor of 230 chemin du Golf in Montreal, as well as four parking spaces that belonged to Maloney.

It is in this condo that the kingpin 40 years had been fired from the bed and picked up by police during an anti-drug operation, the project Loquace the morning of the 1 st November 2012. The police had also seized more than $ 300,000.

Maloney, nicknamed Wheels in the underworld since a serious motorcycle accident made him paraplegic, was brewing millions of dollars and was considered a major player in organized crime.

Beaten Policeman

Connected directly with Mexican cartels, the consortium he was piloting with traffickers from several Canadian criminal groups had imported two tons of cocaine and earned $ 50 million in just one year, according to the survey. police.

Maloney also had at his disposal an impressive arsenal of about a hundred guns, silencers and magazines, as well as a thousand sticks of dynamite that the police had discovered in Laval.

He was also arrested with a Hells Angels relative following a severe beating by a police investigator in Montreal, Mexico, in 2011.

The policeman on vacation had been sequestered, threatened and beaten after recognizing and photographing Maloney with other Quebec police officers in a bar in Playa del Carmen. Maloney had pled guilty to intimidation and received two years in prison.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/05/18 01:56 PM

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...rare-glimpse-inside-montreals-underworld

Montreal’s underworld: Mafia, Hells Angels, street gangs worked in concert
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/05/18 02:45 PM

Smith was arrested in Panama in 2012 after several years on the run.

Quote
At the time, the Montreal Mafia apparently began trafficking in drugs in Laval, which for years had been controlled by the Hells Angels — until they were hit by a major police operation in 2001.

“Lorenzo” presumably was a reference to Lorenzo Giordano, a Mafia leader who was killed in Laval in 2016. Sollecito recounts how Lajoie-Smith expected Giordano to pay him a tax on territory the biker gang used to control.

“That was a big problem between Animal and Lorenzo — a big one,” Sollecito recalls.

“I called (Vito) for me to sit down and listen to what was going on. They fixed the problem. Animal was pissed at me,” Sollecito says.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/06/18 12:58 PM

Hmmmm, so the HA's hit Giordano?
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/06/18 04:10 PM

Marc Laflamme-Berthelot plaide coupable à tous les chefs portés contre lui

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...e-a-tous-les-chefs-portes-contre-lui.php
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/07/18 04:00 PM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...presse_vous_suggere_5203238_article_POS1

Man Murdered in Montreal: the victim has a history with narcotics.
The man shot last night in a restaurant in the north of Montreal is Philipos Kollaros, 38.

In April 2015, Kollaros was arrested along with a half-dozen individuals, including a former Olympic athlete and a Canadian Coast Guard employee, as part of a Royal Canadian Mounted Police investigation in Halifax. called Harrington, where the federal police fought conspiracies to import 1200 kilograms of cocaine into Canada.

Kollaros pleaded guilty to conspiring to import 25 million cocaine last December and was sentenced to four years. But subtracting the time spent in pre-trial detention, he had only one day left to serve. He had also been on probation for three years and was expected to do community work.

In 2013, Kollaros was also arrested in the wake of a $ 6.5 million cocaine seizure in Toronto.
According to police reports, the victim was in a restaurant located on Beaubien Street, near Casgrain Street, on the border between Little Italy and the Rosemont-Petite-Patrie area, when an armed man was arrested. burst into the facility and opened fire on it.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/07/18 09:11 PM

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...fter-shooting-at-little-italy-restaurant

Update: Man shot at Little Italy restaurant is Montreal's 25th homicide

Philipos Kollaros associate Ritesh Thakur was gunned down 2014 in Woodbridge, see articles below.

https://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2014/05/05/police_identify_woodbridge_murder_victim.html

https://nationalpost.com/posted-tor...rams-of-cocaine-in-6-5-million-drug-bust


Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/08/18 12:48 PM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/11/08/un-client-de-el-chapo-liquide

A customer of "El Chapo" liquidated
Montreal victim was an importer of cocaine linked to a dangerous Mexican cartel

The Montrealer coldly murdered in a restaurant in La Petite-Patrie on Tuesday night was a client of the dangerous Mexican cartel headed by "El Chapo", the most powerful drug trafficker in the world.

This is what Le Journal learned from sources well aware of the criminal activities in which Philipos Kollaros, riddled with bullets at Café Cubano, was plunking on Beaubien Street in Montreal.

Originally from British Columbia, this importer of cocaine who resided in a luxury condo in downtown Montreal had "strong business ties with the Sinaloa cartel," according to our sources.

Led by the famous Mexican boss Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman, this cartel is the most prolific drug supplier on the North American continent.

Coincidence or not, Kollaros was eliminated while Guzman's trial had just begun in Brooklyn for exporting more than $ 14 billion in narcotics to the United States and ordered 37 murders.

Privileged contacts

Thanks to his privileged contacts, Kollaros was able to "negotiate directly with the Sinaloa cartel" and have access to "huge" quantities of cocaine, according to our sources.

The police have already seen him several times in Montreal with people linked to this cartel, including the ex-spouse of a co-accused of "El Chapo", the Colombian Hildebrando "Alex" Cifuentes.


Detained in the United States, the latter is one of the leaders of the Cifuentes Villa clan which, according to the FBI, became the main cocaine supplier of the Sinaloa cartel in Colombia, after collaborating with the late boss Pablo Escobar.
But the links between Kollaros and the Mexican cartel may have broken off since a series of expensive police raids and the seizure of 220 kg of coke destined for Canada aboard a sailboat in the Caribbean between 2013 and 2015.
Two alleged accomplices of Kollaros, trapped by the RCMP and the Toronto police, were murdered during this period, in Ontario and British Columbia.

In April 2015, Kollaros was pinned with 12 suspects in Quebec and across the country, including former Olympic skateboarder Ryan James Wedding, for plotting to import several tons of cocaine into the country.

"Under the radar"

Last December, he left prison Rivière-des-Prairies after two and a half years of detention. He was still on probation for three years when a killer made him the 25th murder victim of the year in Montreal.

According to our sources, Mexican cartels are unobtrusive, but "very present" in Canada since 2010.

They would also benefit from the Trudeau government's cancellation of the mandatory visa for Mexicans wishing to enter Canada since 2009. The cartels are no longer bothered to send their emissaries to Montreal who "go under the radar" of the authorities more easily.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/08/18 12:58 PM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/11/08/le-fondateur-de-guess-jeans--aurait-emprunte-a-la-mafia

The founder of "Guess Jeans" borrowed money from the Mafia
The RCMP allegedly heard him parley with Leonardo Rizzuto and Stefano Sollecito

The adopted Montrealer Georges Marciano, founder of Guess Jeans, would have turned to two leaders of the mafia to borrow $ 325,000, learned our Bureau of Investigation.

This is what is revealed by the police filings of Operation Magot against organized crime, which can now be made public.

It is difficult to know if the ex-collector of works of art, beautiful cars and jewels has paid off all his debts to Leonardo Rizzuto and Stefano Sollecito, leaders of the Italian underworld.
In August 2015, however, the two men were impatient, according to a conversation that the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) intercepted in the lobby of the Hotel Montreal, the luxury hotel of Georges Marciano, where the businessman has hung from many works of great masters like Andy Warhol and Joan Miró, in Old Montreal.
"Stefano [Sollecito] wants to be paid and George [Marciano] says he has deposited a check in Leonardo [Rizzuto] 's account of about $ 325,000, in an account in the name of a company," he says. affidavit of a police officer produced to obtain wiretap warrants.
Incorrect numbers

Sollecito responds that these "numbers are incorrect". Then Rizzuto says "he meets people at the office in Loris," referring to the lawyer Loris Cavaliere, arrested at the same time as the two men as part of Operation Magot, in November 2015.

The documents do not say whether they have settled their financial dispute, but a judge addresses this loan in its 2016 decision on the release of the two Mafiosi.


He mentions that the investigator on file "acknowledges that the transaction between Leonardo Rizzuto and the businessman Marciano can not be qualified as a criminal transaction and that it appears legal", without giving details.

At that time, the former tycoon of faded jeans was coming out of a long conflict with American creditors. In 2013, former employees managed to seize his Montreal assets for US $ 86 million in debt after he was found guilty of defamation and "serious mental suffering".

The founder of Guess Jeans did not want to explain his loan to Rizzuto and Sollecito.

"Mr. Marciano has no comments to make," said one of his lawyers contacted by our Investigation Bureau, Quentin Leclercq.

His former employee, Donato Trafficante, who was also present at this meeting with Rizzuto and Sollecito, according to the police document, assures that he keeps no memory of it.

"I never heard of money he borrowed from them," he says. Mr. Marciano has nothing to do with them. "

Georges Marciano and Donato Trafficante have never been charged in connection with Operation Magot, which resulted in the conviction of King Gregory Woolley to eight years in prison for cocaine trafficking.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/08/18 01:05 PM

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...ds-guilty-to-possession-of-stolen-silver

A West Island resident, who was one of the first people to be charged after more than $10 million worth of silver was stolen from the Port of Montreal three years ago, pleaded guilty on Wednesday to being in possession of a fraction of the loot.

Related article:

https://montrealgazette.com/news/wh...ia-and-west-end-gang-had-charges-dropped
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/10/18 06:19 PM

Ce que Vito Rizzuto aurait dit s'il avait témoigné

http://plus.lapresse.ca/screens/1c4e6f18-2663-4556-9526-6442eec1effd__7C___0.html
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/12/18 02:40 AM

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ri2BOkfzWvs

An journalist from Lapresse and an ex-cop who was one of the canadian cops who arrested Rizzuto.
They just released a book about Rizzuto. The video is in french.

The interview is mostly about the time when rizzuto was in Colorado and didn’t know who was attacking his family.
Ploting is revenge.
How he was well respected. He was the one who made the peace between the hells angels and an other organization in Vancouver.

How the sicilian mafia has change. Its not the same culture. New members are italians but born in canada.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/12/18 03:00 PM

^^^^
TLMEP: «Vito Rizzuto contrôlait tout»

http://journalmetro.com/actualites/montreal/1918855/tlmep-vito-rizzuto-controlait-tout
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/13/18 01:28 AM

https://montrealgazette.com/news/ju...and-library-in-drug-smuggling-conspiracy

Jury convicts man who used Kirkland library in drug smuggling conspiracy
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/21/18 11:15 AM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Daniel Renaud has written a great article that in some parts sheds light on the murders of Antonio De Blasio, Gaétan Gosselin, and Vincenzo Scuderi, with the first of these individuals being somehow implicated in the murders of the other two. The article also gives some possible insight about the firebombing of the Loreto funeral home back in April [2017].

Un détenu avale son cellulaire pour le cacher

http://plus.lapresse.ca/screens/f5205bc9-c7ea-4eed-b4fd-901b55267456__7C___0.html


Libération conditionnelle: un incendiaire ignore si sa vie est en danger

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...iaire-ignore-si-sa-vie-est-en-danger.php
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/21/18 04:19 PM

https://montrealgazette.com/news/al...-rizzuto-faces-trial-on-gun-drug-charges

Alleged Montreal Mafia leader Rizzuto faces trial on gun, drug charges
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/22/18 12:05 AM

Originally Posted by Ciment
https://montrealgazette.com/news/al...-rizzuto-faces-trial-on-gun-drug-charges

Alleged Montreal Mafia leader Rizzuto faces trial on gun, drug charges


Rizzuto unfairly targeted because of family name, defence argues

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...rizzuto-faces-trial-on-gun-drug-charges/


Leonardo Rizzuto, «l'éléphant dans la pièce»

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...ardo-rizzuto-lelephant-dans-la-piece.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/22/18 12:30 AM

^^^^
If you think you've read the names of lawyers Dominique Shoofey and Frank Addario before but can't remember when, please note that with respect to Sal Montagna's murder trial, Shoofey represented Milioto, D'Addario, and Racaniello; Addario represented Mirarchi.

Interesting that Leonardo Rizzuto is being represented by both Shoofey and Toronto-based lawyer Addario.
Posted By: BlackFamily

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/22/18 01:42 AM

What's the size and territories of the Syndicate? Also , Are the 67s responsible for Joseph's death?
Right now it seem La Bleus are in the most favorable position.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/22/18 01:55 AM

Originally Posted by BlackFamily
What's the size and territories of the Syndicate? Also , Are the 67s responsible for Joseph's death?
Right now it seem La Bleus are in the most favorable position.


The Syndicate operate in downtown montreal and hochelag, but are connected in many other neighborhoods.

The 67’s was a name given to Ducarme’s crew by the news. 67 is the name given to the neighborhoods St-Michel. In creole, we say negs 67 yo, which translate the niggas from St-Michel. So the news taught it was their name.

Theirs alot of rumors about the death of Ducarme.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/22/18 01:58 AM

Crips always been in better position than the bloods in Momtreal
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/22/18 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment
https://montrealgazette.com/news/al...-rizzuto-faces-trial-on-gun-drug-charges

Alleged Montreal Mafia leader Rizzuto faces trial on gun, drug charges


Did anyone save an earlier version of the article to which Ciment linked above (yesterday)?

An earlier version has the following copy:

He was also quoted as saying that Andrea (Andrew) Scoppa could not replace his father as the head of the Montreal Mafia “because no one...."
_____________

The "He" must, given the context, refer to Leonardo Rizzuto. The ellipsis (....) refers to copy that, just like the line above, is no longer in the current online version of the article.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/22/18 08:23 PM

https://montrealgazette.com/news/crown-defends-warrant-used-to-search-leonardo-rizzutos-home

Crown defends warrant used to search Leonardo Rizzuto's home
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/23/18 12:49 AM

Originally Posted by Ciment


Procès Leonardo Rizzuto: «Il faut regarder le dossier dans son ensemble»

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...egarder-le-dossier-dans-son-ensemble.php
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/23/18 07:09 PM

Originally Posted by Blackmobs
Theirs alot of rumors about the death of Ducarme.


Don't leave us hanging! lol
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/23/18 07:21 PM

Anti, maybe you can answer this, but why do the gangsters North of the border trust Blackberry's so much? Didn't they learn anything with Desjardins/Montagna?
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/24/18 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by dixiemafia
Anti, maybe you can answer this, but why do the gangsters North of the border trust Blackberry's so much? Didn't they learn anything with Desjardins/Montagna?


I have no idea why the Italians in Quebec continued to use their BlackBerry after there was speculation in January 2012 that Desjardins might have been betrayed by his BlackBerry--speculation that was then confirmed almost immediately afterward.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/25/18 07:57 PM

Yea it makes no sense. I could understand trying to use a hot one or something but there is no way would I use one on the regular. I don't like the way the government was allowed to use that contraption they used to steal the texts
Posted By: Torch

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/25/18 10:34 PM

Desjardins and company got screwed because they didn’t fight the illegal blackberry interceptions, the following 14 who were arrested as the second phase of clemenza walked because the prosecutor wouldn’t divulge how they got their info
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/27/18 09:36 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Originally Posted by antimafia
Daniel Renaud has written a great article that in some parts sheds light on the murders of Antonio De Blasio, Gaétan Gosselin, and Vincenzo Scuderi, with the first of these individuals being somehow implicated in the murders of the other two. The article also gives some possible insight about the firebombing of the Loreto funeral home back in April [2017].

Un détenu avale son cellulaire pour le cacher

http://plus.lapresse.ca/screens/f5205bc9-c7ea-4eed-b4fd-901b55267456__7C___0.html


Libération conditionnelle: un incendiaire ignore si sa vie est en danger

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...iaire-ignore-si-sa-vie-est-en-danger.php


Man who conspired to set fire to Rizzuto funeral home denied parole

https://montrealgazette.com/news/ma...e-to-rizzuto-funeral-home-denied-parole/
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/28/18 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by Torch
Desjardins and company got screwed because they didn’t fight the illegal blackberry interceptions, the following 14 who were arrested as the second phase of clemenza walked because the prosecutor wouldn’t divulge how they got their info


Yep I never understood why he pled out that quick. Good chance he's walking the streets now if he didn't take the plea. They claim he lives pretty good in prison anyways..
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/28/18 01:11 PM

Originally Posted by dixiemafia
Originally Posted by Torch
Desjardins and company got screwed because they didn’t fight the illegal blackberry interceptions, the following 14 who were arrested as the second phase of clemenza walked because the prosecutor wouldn’t divulge how they got their info


Yep I never understood why he pled out that quick. Good chance he's walking the streets now if he didn't take the plea. They claim he lives pretty good in prison anyways..


If he would be back on the streets now he would have a big target on his back. I don't see Desjardins surviving for long when he's out. The not so long ago lupara bianco of his brother is a predicament of his own fate.
Posted By: Torch

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/28/18 01:16 PM

The prosecutor bluffed and Desjardins and company figured they were done for and took the deal, personally his lawyers were a The ones who screwed up. He would definitely be walking the streets today if he had a better lawyer.
Posted By: Torch

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/28/18 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by Sonny_Black
Originally Posted by dixiemafia
Originally Posted by Torch
Desjardins and company got screwed because they didn’t fight the illegal blackberry interceptions, the following 14 who were arrested as the second phase of clemenza walked because the prosecutor wouldn’t divulge how they got their info


Yep I never understood why he pled out that quick. Good chance he's walking the streets now if he didn't take the plea. They claim he lives pretty good in prison anyways..


If he would be back on the streets now he would have a big target on his back. I don't see Desjardins surviving for long when he's out. The not so long ago lupara bianco of his brother is a predicament of his own fate.


When he gets out there will be problems but I’m under the impression he’ll be starting them, he’s got the bikers behind him and he’s got money. They could have easily made him disappear inside but for some reason he’s still alive so you have to believe he’s got the right backing.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/28/18 11:10 PM

Another fire related to organized crime, the target was a money lender close to the Irish.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/28/18 11:20 PM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/11/28/un-incendie-lie-au-crime-organise

A fire related to organized crime

The arson attacks against a lender close to the Irish underworld continues with a fifth attack in just a few months against properties owned by members of his family.

At approximately 2:30 am on Friday, two individuals were reportedly seen by witnesses when they threw a Molotov cocktail inside the Save N Ship courier on Sainte-Catherine Street West in the Wesmount neighborhood of Montreal.

The company is owned by Jennifer McKenzie, the sister of John McKenzie, a usurious lender known to be close to the West gang.

If police officers called to the scene quickly surrounded the fire with fire extinguishers, the investigation to find the perpetrators and the sponsors is still ongoing.

Since June, the 48-year-old has been the target of a fierce vendetta that began with an attempted shooting in Laval in broad daylight.

Then, at the end of the summer, two commercial buildings owned by his wife in the Lower Laurentians were set on fire on the same weekend.

Last September, it was a residential development in Mirabel in which he was involved that was visited by incendiaries, throwing innocent families into the street.

Several residents of the area had then confided to the Journal.

In January 2017, it was the luxury Laval couple's house on the Commissioner's Road that was fired while they were away.

John McKenzie is known to police circles as a "friend for life" of Richard Griffin, a notorious member of the Western Gang murdered more than 40 bullets in 2006.

The Sûreté du Québec had already detailed its proximity to the underworld before the liquor, racing and games board (RACJ) in 2011 and its involvement in loan sharking.

At hearings for O'Neil's pubs in Rosemère and Saint-Eustache, run by his sister Jennifer McKenzie, the investigator alleged that the individual had extorted the two companies as debt payers.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/30/18 10:33 PM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/11/30/la-creme-du-crime-organise-pour-le-mariage-dun-hells

The cream of organized crime for the wedding of an Hells
More than 270 guests will gather in downtown Montreal Saturday

The lavish wedding scheduled between an influential member of the Hells Angels and the daughter of a powerful drug trafficker from Kanesatake will gather Saturday, in the heart of Montreal, several tenors of organized crime.

Signifying the importance of Martin Robert and Annie Arbic in the underworld, more than 270 guests linked to bikers, mafia or the Irish underworld will attend the ceremony in a sumptuous reception hall on Peel Street, downtown.

AMONG THE GUESTS
Hells Angels
Montreal

David Lefebvre
Salvatore Brunetti
Salvatore Cazzetta
South

Eric Bouffard
Frédéric Landry-Hétu
Roch Delaney
Alain "Zappa" Durand
Trois-Rivières

Mario Brouillette (former member)
Sherbrooke

Vincent Boulanger
Alain Vallée
Sylvain Tétreault
François Vachon
la France

Cyril Henri
Other Hells Angels from France and Germany, in particular, are expected.

Italian mafia (Rizzuto clan)
Miguel Torres
? Giuseppe
Focarazzo
? Antonio
Pietrantonio
Antonio Lavaronne, of Hamilton
Close relatives of the Dubois clan have also confirmed their presence
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/01/18 05:17 PM

^^^^
We may see a correction to the copy “Antonio Lavaronne, of Hamilton”—I’ve communicated with one of the authors of the article, who confirmed for me the misspelling of the surname. Stay tuned.

https://twitter.com/CdnOrgC/status/1068710456561295362?s=20
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/01/18 05:54 PM

I was also suspicious that they had made a mistake on the surname. Antonio Pietantonio also caught my eye haven't heard of him in a while. He was shot in 2011 but survived. Also the Dubois clan seem to be resurfacing.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/02/18 09:55 AM

Nice wedding pictures def a show of power ! Cazzetta looks sharp.

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...mp;utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1543716694
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/02/18 02:53 PM

Daniel Renaud’s article about yesterday’s significant wedding in downtown Montreal:

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...es-sous-haute-surveillance-policiere.php
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/02/18 10:34 PM

Video !

https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/video?clipId=1554180
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/03/18 12:08 PM

https://twitter.com/CTVMontreal

Police investigating reports of Molotov cocktail thrown in an california pizza parlor on Decarie blvd near Garland. This is the second time in two weeks they've been hit.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/03/18 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment
https://twitter.com/CTVMontreal

Police investigating reports of Molotov cocktail thrown in an california pizza parlor on Decarie blvd near Garland. This is the second time in two weeks they've been hit.


Ciment, the Quebec business registry shows the names of Frank Trimarchi (Groupe Serpone) and Johanne Serpone (Groupe Serpone) respectively as primary stakeholders in the California Pizza locations on Decarie and Crescent--do either of those names ring a bell?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/03/18 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Originally Posted by Ciment
https://twitter.com/CTVMontreal

Police investigating reports of Molotov cocktail thrown in an california pizza parlor on Decarie blvd near Garland. This is the second time in two weeks they've been hit.


Ciment, the Quebec business registry shows the names of Frank Trimarchi (Groupe Serpone) and Johanne Serpone (Groupe Serpone) respectively as primary stakeholders in the California Pizza locations on Decarie and Crescent--do either of those names ring a bell?


Sorry, the names doesn't ring a bell.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/03/18 06:31 PM

Plateau-Mont-Royal: a dead man and a wounded man after a shooting
It is the 29th homicide to occur this year in the territory of Montreal.

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-un-blesse-a-la-suite-dune-fusillade.php
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/04/18 02:46 AM

https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/...t-of-the-season?utm_campaign=sharebutton

A Dispatch from the Hells Angels Wedding Event of the Season
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/05/18 06:18 AM

Alessandro Sucapane, leader in a Montreal Mafia clan, granted day parole

https://montrealgazette.com/news/al...-montreal-mafia-clan-granted-day-parole/
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/06/18 03:12 PM

^^^^
Ancien bras droit du mafieux Giuseppe De Vito, Alessandro Sucapane est envoyé en maison de transition

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...e-est-envoye-en-maison-de-transition.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/06/18 04:04 PM

Recent tweet from Paul Cherry, reporter for the Montreal Gazette.

https://twitter.com/PCherryReporter/status/1070705975903031298

Paul Cherry
‏@PCherryReporter

Montreal Mafia leader Francesco Del Balso pleads guilty to threatening TVA reporter Félix Séguin.

10:46 AM - 6 Dec 2018
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/06/18 10:42 PM

^^^^
Menaces envers un journaliste: le mafioso Del Balso plaide coupable

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...le-mafioso-del-balso-plaide-coupable.php


Menaces contre un journaliste: un leader de la mafia coupable

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...urnaliste-un-leader-de-la-mafia-coupable

Google translation
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/07/18 01:50 AM

^^^^
Montreal Mafia leader pleads guilty to threatening TVA reporter

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...eads-guilty-to-threatening-tva-reporter/
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/12/18 05:21 PM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...ace-de-mort-un-juge-et-trois-avocats.php

Andy Duroseau case: accused of threatening a judge and three lawyers

An individual awaiting sentence for opening fire on the driver of a mafia clan leader in 2014 has been accused of death threats against a judge of the Court of Québec, a prosecutor of the prosecution and two lawyers of the the defense yesterday afternoon at the Montreal courthouse.

The accused in this unusual case, Andy Duroseau, 30, also faces charges of death threats against a man and a woman. A publication ban prevents us from disclosing the identity of the six alleged victims. The alleged acts took place last October.

DELICATE CASE

The case is delicate, and for the sake of transparency, it was a Québec City prosecutor who represented the lawsuit yesterday, before Judge Manlio Del Negro of the Court of Quebec. The prosecutor, Mr. Daniel Bélanger, announced at the outset that it is a judge from another district who will hear the case.

He also opposed the release of the suspect, whose release investigation was postponed until 19 December. But in fact, this appearance will have no impact, since Duroseau is already detained pending the pleadings on sentence in relation to a case of attempted murder on the driver and bodyguard of a clan chief of the Mafia of Montreal to be held next February.

Yesterday, Duroseau did not have a lawyer to represent him, and it was Judge Del Negro who had to be a pedagogue and explain what was happening.

"I do not have a lawyer! I need a lawyer! What threats? Duroseau, who was appearing by video conference from a local detention center in Rivière-des-Prairies.

On October 3, 2014, when Mafia boss Andrew Scoppa's driver and his pregnant wife were returning to their Dollard-des-Ormeaux condo building, Duroseau jumped off a wall, fell, raised and, armed with a pistol, opened fire several times on their vehicle. The Mafioso driver backed up quickly before the SUV came to a standstill and the SUV and his wife ran to a nearby business.

Duroseau was arrested shortly after the incident and pleaded guilty to two counts of attempted murder and a weapon possession charge last March.

THREATS AGAINST PROSECUTORS

According to figures obtained from the Director of Criminal and Penal Prosecutions (DPCP), at least 13 cases of threats to a prosecutor have been handled by the DPCP security service since the beginning of the year, a number which is similar to that of 2014 and 2015.

The statistics also reveal that between January 1, 2010 and November 16, 2018 (over a nine-year period), 1280 court files of threats to a person associated with the justice system (lawyers, judges, police officers, constables, etc.) have been opened everywhere in Quebec.

- With the collaboration of William Leclerc, La Presse
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/16/18 01:39 PM

Le fils de la «taupe de la GRC» dans l’eau chaude

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/12/16/le-fils-de-la-taupe-de-la-grc-dans-leau-chaude

Google Translate link
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/17/18 07:20 PM

Mafia montréalaise: un mariage sous surveillance à Laval

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...un-mariage-sous-surveillance-a-laval.php
Posted By: BarrettM

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/19/18 08:54 AM

who killed the rizzutos? for beginners
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/19/18 11:19 AM

On the lam: More than 100 criminals in Quebec are 'unlawfully at large'

https://montrealgazette.com/news/on...minals-in-quebec-are-unlawfully-at-large
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/22/18 11:10 AM

Quote
Beauchamp was not charged in Project Magot, but the affidavit shows police conducting surveillance on gang leader Gregory Woolley, a former member of the Rockers, often spotted Beauchamp with him.


Slain biker’s life had a rough start, violent ending in St-Léonard

https://montrealgazette.com/news/slain-bikers-life-had-a-rough-start-violent-ending-in-st-leonard
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/23/18 04:08 PM

A very important article you will probably want to read.

Daniel Renaud’s update on status of the Montreal Mafia
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/23/18 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
A very important article you will probably want to read.

Daniel Renaud’s update on status of the Montreal Mafia



The Hells are the top dogs of the province. They are stonger than the mob.
I think theirs no place in the world, where the hells angels are as strong than the hells of quebec.
Posted By: m2w

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/23/18 10:23 PM

Originally Posted by Blackmobs
Originally Posted by antimafia
A very important article you will probably want to read.

Daniel Renaud’s update on status of the Montreal Mafia



The Hells are the top dogs of the province. They are stonger than the mob.
I think theirs no place in the world, where the hells angels are as strong than the hells of quebec.


i think the mafia is stronger than hells in montreal
also what this anonymous said sounds like bullshit
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/23/18 11:36 PM

Originally Posted by m2w
Originally Posted by Blackmobs
Originally Posted by antimafia
A very important article you will probably want to read.

Daniel Renaud’s update on status of the Montreal Mafia



The Hells are the top dogs of the province. They are stonger than the mob.
I think theirs no place in the world, where the hells angels are as strong than the hells of quebec.


i think the mafia is stronger than hells in montreal
also what this anonymous said sounds like bullshit


The Hells got Montreal on lock. But the Hells will r soect the mob. But they can’t tell the Hells what to do, like in the 90s.
Posted By: Moscone65

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/24/18 02:56 AM

The HA are in a pretty good position right now. However, I wouldn't be surprised to see things change in 5-10 years from now. If alot of HA get locked up, it frees that space up again, and if there's one thing we know, its that the mob is resilient. All that needs to happen is for someone to come along that can bring all the small Italian groups together, even if not to the extent that Vito did. Perhaps an outsider. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if we start seeing ndrangheta guys more and more in Montreal as well, as well as other Ontario Italians. (Hamilton/Buffalo groups like Violi and Luppino's)
Posted By: m2w

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/24/18 10:19 AM

ndrangheta is not even present in montreal
the violi's and luppino's are members of buffalo family and active in ontario
in montreal there are two or maybe three strong mafia factions (bonanno's) the rizzuto's, the di maulo group and another led by the arcuris's
i bet the mafia war in montrel was all internal to bonanno family
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/24/18 10:31 AM

Don't forget the Rizzuto organisation were considered zips by the Americans, when Vito was alive a few years ago they still had links to Italy.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/24/18 06:13 PM

I think the Hells need the mafia or desjardins group to survive so I'm not sure they will ever overtake them at that level.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/24/18 06:27 PM

Its not the 80s anymore. The Hells in Quebec, doesn’t need the mob as much than before. Sure the mob can facilate some deals for them. But the italian mob also need the Hells Angels now.
For exemple, Rizzuto got back to power because of his tie with the Hells Angels et street gangs.
Yes the mob is a strong organization, but lets not be blind because of the movie godfather or the past mobsters like Al Capone.
Posted By: BlackFamily

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/24/18 08:38 PM

Let's not forget the CDPs & Bo-Gars as well. They do have chapters outside of Montreal.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/24/18 09:20 PM

Originally Posted by BlackFamily
Let's not forget the CDPs & Bo-Gars as well. They do have chapters outside of Montreal.



They do, you’ll see alot of gangs members from Montreal in Ottawa, Toronto and the West of Canada.

Also Bo-gars is the name given by the media. The name was in creole Neg-Bo, Neg meaning Nigga/er in Creole.
So the media couldn’t say Neg in the news so they change it for Bo-Gars. And because of this, people think the name means the Handsome boys, which its false
Posted By: BlackFamily

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/24/18 09:33 PM

Originally Posted by Blackmobs
Originally Posted by BlackFamily
Let's not forget the CDPs & Bo-Gars as well. They do have chapters outside of Montreal.



They do, you’ll see alot of gangs members from Montreal in Ottawa, Toronto and the West of Canada.

Also Bo-gars is the name given by the media. The name was in creole Neg-Bo, Neg meaning Nigga/er in Creole.
So the media couldn’t say Neg in the news so they change it for Bo-Gars. And because of this, people think the name means the Handsome boys, which its false


Source?
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/24/18 09:38 PM

Originally Posted by BlackFamily
Originally Posted by Blackmobs
Originally Posted by BlackFamily
Let's not forget the CDPs & Bo-Gars as well. They do have chapters outside of Montreal.



They do, you’ll see alot of gangs members from Montreal in Ottawa, Toronto and the West of Canada.

Also Bo-gars is the name given by the media. The name was in creole Neg-Bo, Neg meaning Nigga/er in Creole.
So the media couldn’t say Neg in the news so they change it for Bo-Gars. And because of this, people think the name means the Handsome boys, which its false


Source?


When you’re a haitian from montreal, and lived in montreal-north, you know those things, cuz everyone knows
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/24/18 10:03 PM

Two guys got killed in st-leonard right now.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/24/18 10:07 PM

https://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2018/12/24/un-mort-et-un-blesse-grave-par-balle-a-saint-leonard
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/24/18 11:07 PM

https://montrealgazette.com/news/one-man-dead-one-in-critical-condition-after-st-leonard-shooting

One man dead, one in critical condition after St-Léonard shooting
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/24/18 11:11 PM

There's been another deadly shooting incident in St. Leonard.

Montreal police say at around 11:40 a.m. on Monday, they got a call about gunshots inside an apartment on Jean-Talon St. E., near De Come St. When they arrived, they found a 38-year-old man dead at the scene. A 41-year-old man was taken to hospital, where he was pronounced dead some time later.

The shooting happened just blocks away from last Thursday's deadly shooting of a 44-year-old man with ties to the Hells Angels in the parking lot of an Ultramar gas station on Langelier Blvd.

For the moment, it's not clear if the two events are linked.
Posted By: BlackFamily

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/24/18 11:27 PM

Originally Posted by Blackmobs
Originally Posted by BlackFamily
Originally Posted by Blackmobs
Originally Posted by BlackFamily
Let's not forget the CDPs & Bo-Gars as well. They do have chapters outside of Montreal.



They do, you’ll see alot of gangs members from Montreal in Ottawa, Toronto and the West of Canada.

Also Bo-gars is the name given by the media. The name was in creole Neg-Bo, Neg meaning Nigga/er in Creole.
So the media couldn’t say Neg in the news so they change it for Bo-Gars. And because of this, people think the name means the Handsome boys, which its false


Source?


When you’re a haitian from montreal, and lived in montreal-north, you know those things, cuz everyone knows


I'm American so you'll have to fill me in better than that since I'm thinking back to the Master B then Bo-Gars.
Ha.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/24/18 11:33 PM

In Montreal-north,it was Master B first, then Compagnie B, then Neg Bo, then Outlaws, then BMF.
Master B, Compagnie and Neg Bo, are all linked to one guy. You probably read about him, Beauvoir.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/26/18 04:06 PM

https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/quebecs-top-crime-stories-of-2018-to-be-continued

Quebec's top crime stories of 2018, to be continued
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/26/18 04:11 PM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...ctimes-etaient-connues-des-policiers.php

Double homicide in Saint-Léonard: victims were known to police.

Two men were shot dead in Saint-Léonard, east of Montreal, on Christmas Eve. The double homicide would have a link with organized crime, La Presse learned .

On Monday, the Police Department of the City of Montreal (SPVM) indicated that it received a call at approximately 11:40 am regarding a man shot and wounded in a residential building on Jean-Talon Street East, near de Como Street. , in the borough of Saint-Léonard.

The death of a 38-year-old man was first observed at the scene, while another 41-year-old man was transported to a hospital center.

The latter, who was seriously injured "upper body" with a gun, however succumbed to his injuries a few hours later, late afternoon, said Monday the SPVM.

The known victims of the police force

The two men who lost their lives were known to the police, said the SPVM, which refused to say for what reasons. According to our information, some people involved in this event are associated to street gangs, a group of bikers or both.

The homicides result from "a conflict that has degenerated between several people in housing," said Caroline Chèvrefils, spokesperson for the SPVM.

The authorities have still not made any arrests and were still looking for "several suspects" yesterday who fled on foot in an unknown direction after the shots were fired.

A 25-year-old woman was also in the apartment at the time of the murders. She was not injured, but was treated for nervous shock.

This is the 31 th and 32 th homicides occur in the territory of the City of Montreal since the beginning of the year 2018.

- With Daniel Renaud, La Presse and The Canadian Press.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/26/18 04:28 PM

Originally Posted by dixiemafia
I think the Hells need the mafia or desjardins group to survive so I'm not sure they will ever overtake them at that level.



I agree with you.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/26/18 05:05 PM

Originally Posted by m2w
ndrangheta is not even present in montreal
the violi's and luppino's are members of buffalo family and active in ontario
in montreal there are two or maybe three strong mafia factions (bonanno's) the rizzuto's, the di maulo group and another led by the arcuris's
i bet the mafia war in montrel was all internal to bonanno family


Violi's and Luppino's also have very close ties to the Ndrangheta.

On the contrary, I believe the Ontario Ndrangheta has increased it ties with some clans Montreal clans.
Posted By: doggystyle

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/26/18 08:08 PM

I dont know much about the Canadian underworld so id like to know, Who runs Canada now? is it still the Rizzutos or Calabrians? And the Calabrians in Canada are they Ndrangheta or just tied to Ndrangheta?
Posted By: doggystyle

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/26/18 08:17 PM

Also it seems that the Canadian mobsters make more money than the USA mobsters, or am i completly wrong?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/26/18 09:16 PM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...int-leonard-les-victimes-identifiees.php

Posted on 26 December 2018 at 11h54 | Updated at 11:55

Two murders of Saint-Léonard: Victims identified.

The two men shot dead in a borough building in Saint-Leonard on Christmas Eve are Marc-Hilary Dasilma and Davis Arbor, La Presse learned .

According to our information, the first, 41, was reportedly linked to street gangs while the second, aged 38, was a member of the Devils Ghost, a school club Hells Angels.

A transaction that went wrong or a conflict that erupted between the two men and other individuals present in the building at Jean-Talon Street East, near rue du Como, where the tragedy took place, could be the motive of the crime. Some sources do not exclude that the two men killed each other, which however was not confirmed by the SPVM.

Dasilma and Arbor were known to the police. Both had criminal histories.

Moreover, according to court documents consulted by La Presse , Dasilma, aka Ocean, would have been close to Jean-Luc Sanon, leader of a street gang of red allegiance in the Montreal-North sector. According to a police source quoted in court documents, around 2012, a contract was placed on the head of Dasilma, because he, Sanon and a gang leader of red allegiance killed that year, Chénier Dupuy, would have refused a gang unification project concocted by Gregory Woolley in the run-up to the release of the mafia godfather, Vito Rizzuto.

According to some reports, Dasilma was involved in the fire of a Montreal dance club controlled by the Hells Angels during the 2000s.

Davis Arbor, meanwhile, had a history of drug trafficking.

The authorities have still not made any arrests in relation to these two murders and were still looking for "several suspects" who fled on foot in an unknown direction after the shooting was fired.

A 25-year-old woman was also in the apartment at the time of the murders. She was not injured, but was treated for nervous shock.

According to the police, these two murders would have nothing to do with the assassination of former Rockers member Sébastien Beauchamp murdered in the same arrondissement last Thursday.

This is the 31 th and 32 th homicides occur in the territory of the City of Montreal since the beginning of the year 2018.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/26/18 09:31 PM

Originally Posted by doggystyle
I dont know much about the Canadian underworld so id like to know, Who runs Canada now? is it still the Rizzutos or Calabrians? And the Calabrians in Canada are they Ndrangheta or just tied to Ndrangheta?


Some may disagree, but at the moment the way I see things, the Calabrian Ndrangheta in Ontario have surpassed any other Italian mafia present in Canada.
The Sicilian clan in Montreal have lost ground, they now have to share territory with other mafia clans such as the Calabrian Scoppa/Mirachi clan(s) supported by the Ontario Ndrangheta.

With regards to the Bikers, basically all Italians clans to do business with them.

There is also something going with the West end gang/Irish clan. I do not know if there is internal fighting or if they are being targeted by other clans. There seems to be greater activity in recent months of molotov bombings of houses, cars and businesses and shootings. Arab clans also being targeted.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/26/18 09:50 PM

With old school guys like Cazzetta, Piccirilli and Brunetti gangsters of italian origin also play a big part in the Hells Angels.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/26/18 10:02 PM

Originally Posted by Hollander
With old school guys like Cazzetta, Piccirilli and Brunetti gangsters of italian origin also play a big part in the Hells Angels.


Yes they do, there are also other Italian bikers in the Devils Ghost and Head Hunter MC gangs.

When they say 95% of Quebec is controlled by bikers is not a surprise. HA have been opening new chapters in small cities/towns where independent drug dealers have been given a choice to associate with the MC or be eliminated. Most of those areas were never controlled by Italians.

Majority Italians live in the most populated areas of Quebec like Montreal island and Laval.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/26/18 10:22 PM

Controlling 95% has its good points and also its bad points.

They control a bigger territory but they also become more visible to the politicians, population and police force. At the end, with greater police presence and raids and more mouths to feed, it is questionable as to whether they do in fact yield increase profits.
Posted By: m2w

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/27/18 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by Ciment
Originally Posted by doggystyle
I dont know much about the Canadian underworld so id like to know, Who runs Canada now? is it still the Rizzutos or Calabrians? And the Calabrians in Canada are they Ndrangheta or just tied to Ndrangheta?


Some may disagree, but at the moment the way I see things, the Calabrian Ndrangheta in Ontario have surpassed any other Italian mafia present in Canada.
The Sicilian clan in Montreal have lost ground, they now have to share territory with other mafia clans such as the Calabrian Scoppa/Mirachi clan(s) supported by the Ontario Ndrangheta.

With regards to the Bikers, basically all Italians clans to do business with them.

There is also something going with the West end gang/Irish clan. I do not know if there is internal fighting or if they are being targeted by other clans. There seems to be greater activity in recent months of molotov bombings of houses, cars and businesses and shootings. Arab clans also being targeted.


in my opinion cosa nostra (both sicilian and american) is still the dominant italian criminal group in canada
scoppa and mirarchi are probably members of bonanno and there is not any proof ontario ndrangheta supported them
there are still several rizzuto mobsters in freedom leonardo rizzuto, poncho cun tre ra, stefano sollecito, nicola spagnolo, frank arcadi,charles renda and others
also i think in montreal italian mafia is the strongest criminal group and the rizzuto's are the most connected both with hells and haitian gangs
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/27/18 11:17 AM

m2w you can now post Cuntrera it´s not seen as a bad word anymore. wink
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/27/18 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by m2w
Originally Posted by Ciment
Originally Posted by doggystyle
I dont know much about the Canadian underworld so id like to know, Who runs Canada now? is it still the Rizzutos or Calabrians? And the Calabrians in Canada are they Ndrangheta or just tied to Ndrangheta?


Some may disagree, but at the moment the way I see things, the Calabrian Ndrangheta in Ontario have surpassed any other Italian mafia present in Canada.
The Sicilian clan in Montreal have lost ground, they now have to share territory with other mafia clans such as the Calabrian Scoppa/Mirachi clan(s) supported by the Ontario Ndrangheta.

With regards to the Bikers, basically all Italians clans to do business with them.

There is also something going with the West end gang/Irish clan. I do not know if there is internal fighting or if they are being targeted by other clans. There seems to be greater activity in recent months of molotov bombings of houses, cars and businesses and shootings. Arab clans also being targeted.


in my opinion cosa nostra (both sicilian and american) is still the dominant italian criminal group in canada
scoppa and mirarchi are probably members of bonanno and there is not any proof ontario ndrangheta supported them
there are still several rizzuto mobsters in freedom leonardo rizzuto, poncho cun tre ra, stefano sollecito, nicola spagnolo, frank arcadi,charles renda and others
also i think in montreal italian mafia is the strongest criminal group and the rizzuto's are the most connected both with hells and haitian gangs


-Luppino's are related by marriage to a well known Ndrangheta family in Toronto
-Recent media reports & arrests have linked Violi/Luppino to the Bonanno's
-Recent media reports also have reported ties between Violi & Hells in Ontario
-Arrests in NY link several NY families with the Ndrangheta
-several high ranking members of the Rizzuto were killed by Haitian hitmen proving that not all Haitian gangs are with the Rizzuto's as you state.
-Nicola Cortese (Ontario) was in Montreal at the time N.Rizzuto Sr. was shot. Nicola wasn't in Quebec looking for Caribou to hunt.
-Several members of the Montreal clans opposing the Rizzutos were caught by police surveillance meeting with ndrangheta members in Toronto & Hamilton before and after some of the high profile shootings in Montreal
-Cuntrera's (Ontario)were often caught on surveillance meeting with ndrangheta members.
-Ranieri, Rizzuto's point man in Ontario had to flee to Mexico and killed,received the same fate as his predecessors.
-Most of the Italian clans in Montreal all do business with Hells not just the Rizzuto.

But surprisingly ever since the fallout between Rizzuto & Messino I haven't seen any interrelations between the Rizzuto clan and any of the NY families but there are between the Luppino/Violi/Ndrangheta.
Prior to the war between factions of the Rizzuto clan, they were much bigger under Vito and more in control. The war has fractured and weakened them. Territories have been partitioned between them & opposing clans. This is a present snap shot of how I perceive it to be based on media, police reports and criminologists. They may once again regain their power in the distant future but at the moment they are one clan among the others.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/27/18 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment

But surprisingly ever since the fallout between Rizzuto & Messino I haven't seen any interrelations between the Rizzuto clan and any of the NY families


Good post Climent, however the Ironworker, still acting boss at the time of death, wouldn't get involved in the war without some backing from NYC.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/27/18 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Originally Posted by Ciment

But surprisingly ever since the fallout between Rizzuto & Messino I haven't seen any interrelations between the Rizzuto clan and any of the NY families


Good post Climent, however the Ironworker, still acting boss at the time of death, wouldn't get involved in the war without some backing from NYC.




Yes I agree but Montagna went there with a mission to destroy the Rizzuto clan and takeover the rein not to form a partnership or business relationship.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/27/18 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment
Originally Posted by Hollander
Originally Posted by Ciment

But surprisingly ever since the fallout between Rizzuto & Messino I haven't seen any interrelations between the Rizzuto clan and any of the NY families


Good post Climent, however the Ironworker, still acting boss at the time of death, wouldn't get involved in the war without some backing from NYC.




Yes I agree but Montagna went there with a mission to destroy the Rizzuto clan and takeover the rein.


First he had tried to convince the old Nick Rizzuto to step down, and let younger blood rule.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/27/18 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Originally Posted by Ciment
Originally Posted by Hollander
Originally Posted by Ciment

But surprisingly ever since the fallout between Rizzuto & Messino I haven't seen any interrelations between the Rizzuto clan and any of the NY families


Good post Climent, however the Ironworker, still acting boss at the time of death, wouldn't get involved in the war without some backing from NYC.




Yes I agree but Montagna went there with a mission to destroy the Rizzuto clan and takeover the rein.


First he had tried to convince the old Nick Rizzuto to step down, and let younger blood rule.


What was meant by interrelations was amicable relations not hostile ones.
Posted By: m2w

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/27/18 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment

-Luppino's are related by marriage to a well known Ndrangheta family in Toronto
-Recent media reports & arrests have linked Violi/Luppino to the Bonanno's
-Recent media reports also have reported ties between Violi & Hells in Ontario
-Arrests in NY link several NY families with the Ndrangheta
-several high ranking members of the Rizzuto were killed by Haitian hitmen proving that not all Haitian gangs are with the Rizzuto's as you state.
-Nicola Cortese (ndrangheta hitman) was in Montreal at the time N.Rizzuto Sr. was shot. Nicola wasn't in Quebec looking for Caribou to hunt.
-Several members of the Montreal clans opposing the Rizzutos were caught by police surveillance meeting with ndrangheta members in Toronto & Hamilton before and after some of the high profile shootings in Montreal
-Cuntrera's (Ontario)were often caught on surveillance meeting with ndrangheta members.
-Ranieri, Rizzuto's point man in Ontario had to flee to Mexico and killed,received the same fate as his predecessors.
-Most of the Italian clans in Montreal all do business with Hells not just the Rizzuto.

But surprisingly ever since the fallout between Rizzuto & Messino I haven't seen any interrelations between the Rizzuto clan and any of the NY families but there are between the Luppino/Violi/Ndrangheta.
Prior to the war between factions of the Rizzuto clan, they were much bigger under Vito and more in control. The war has fractured and weakened them. Territories have been partitioned between them & opposing clans. This is a present snap shot of how I perceive it to be based on media, police reports and criminologists. They may once again regain their power in the distant future but at the moment they are one clan among the others.


it has nothing to do with montreal war in my opinion, ndrangheta is not involved, that's mostly a bonanno internal war
the fact that canadian mobsters are also linked with some ndrangheta members in ontario it doesn't mean ndrangheta is involved in the war, also ndrangheta is not even active in montreal, at least there is not any ndrina or locale
moreno gallo was also killed in mexico and he was a rizzuto enemy, so rizzuto's are probably capable to carry out murders over there
cuntrera had links with ontario ndrangheta but he's also a rizzuto allies, a proof ndrangheta is not against the rizzuto's
all criminal groups are linked eachother, with hells and haitians, yes, not only the rizzuto's, but they seem to be the most connected, just see the 2015 wiretaps between leonardo rizzuto, sollecito and the highest hells and haitian bosses
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/27/18 05:05 PM

We seem to have opposite opinions so I will agree to disagree.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/27/18 11:34 PM

Montreal Mafia always has been a mixture of Sicilian and Calabrian men later also other, but a guy like Paolo Violi was born in the ´ndrangheta his father was a top boss and Paolo associated with the highest bosses.
Posted By: m2w

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/28/18 10:04 AM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Montreal Mafia always has been a mixture of Sicilian and Calabrian men later also other, but a guy like Paolo Violi was born in the ´ndrangheta his father was a top boss and Paolo associated with the highest bosses.


paolo violi was a bonanno member, like all the mobsters of calabrian origins in montreal; nick rizzuto father was also a mafia member in sicily but he was a bonanno member in montreal
even paolo violi sons are lcn members, not ndrangheta
in north italy there are several sicilians who are ndrangheta members, for example
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/28/18 11:30 AM

I don´t deny Violli was a member of the NY borgata, but you also have to look at the bigger picture and the family relations with ´ndrangheta.
Posted By: m2w

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/28/18 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by Hollander
I don´t deny Violli was a member of the NY borgata, but you also have to look at the bigger picture and the family relations with ´ndrangheta.


i dont think they have so much relations anymore and the fact paolo violi sons are lcn member proof it
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/28/18 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by m2w
Originally Posted by Hollander
I don´t deny Violli was a member of the NY borgata, but you also have to look at the bigger picture and the family relations with ´ndrangheta.


i dont think they have so much relations anymore and the fact paolo violi sons are lcn member proof it


But the probe into the Violi sons also discovered they have a reach into Italy and other parts of Europe. To me it´s clear there are still relations.
Posted By: m2w

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/28/18 12:18 PM

they may have some links for drug trafficking but if they were so entrenched in the ndranegheta they woud be ndrangheta members not members of lcn(buffalo)
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/28/18 03:54 PM

It is well documented that Giacomo Luppino was a ndrangheta member that immigrated to Canada in 1955 and became to a trusted Ontario lieutenant for Maggadino. Giacaomo Luppino is the grandfather to Domenico Violi jr. recently reported to be the underboss of the Buffalo family.
He is also the father-in-law of Paolo Violi. It is also documented that Paolo Violi's father Domenico Violi sr was also a ndrangheta member.
Giacomo Luppino was a member of the camera di controllo (ndrangheta board) that he established. Giacomo Luppino is proof that you can be a ndrangheta member and also be member of the mafia. The Buffalo mafia and Ontario ndrangheta have always had strong relationships for many decades.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/28/18 04:23 PM

It is well documented that Giacomo Luppino was a ndrangheta member that immigrated to Canada in 1955 and became to a trusted Ontario lieutenant for Maggadino. Giacaomo Luppino is the grandfather to Domenico Violi jr. recently reported to be the underboss of the Buffalo family.
He is also the father-in-law of Paolo Violi. It is also documented that Paolo Violi's father Domenico Violi sr was also a ndrangheta member.
Giacomo Luppino was a member of the camera di controllo (ndrangheta board) that he established. Giacomo Luppino is proof that you can be a ndrangheta member and also be member of the mafia. The Buffalo mafia and Ontario ndrangheta have always had strong relationships for many decades.

Originally Posted by Hollander
Originally Posted by m2w
Originally Posted by Hollander
I don´t deny Violli was a member of the NY borgata, but you also have to look at the bigger picture and the family relations with ´ndrangheta.


i dont think they have so much relations anymore and the fact paolo violi sons are lcn member proof it


But the probe into the Violi sons also discovered they have a reach into Italy and other parts of Europe. To me it´s clear there are still relations.


I agree Holland.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/28/18 04:25 PM

Originally Posted by Hollander
I don´t deny Violli was a member of the NY borgata, but you also have to look at the bigger picture and the family relations with ´ndrangheta.


It true, you can't cherry pick , you have to look at the big picture.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/28/18 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by m2w
Originally Posted by Hollander
Montreal Mafia always has been a mixture of Sicilian and Calabrian men later also other, but a guy like Paolo Violi was born in the ´ndrangheta his father was a top boss and Paolo associated with the highest bosses.


paolo violi was a bonanno member, like all the mobsters of calabrian origins in montreal; nick rizzuto father was also a mafia member in sicily but he was a bonanno member in montreal
even paolo violi sons are lcn members, not ndrangheta
in north italy there are several sicilians who are ndrangheta members, for example


I agree Paolo was a lcn member but to say he was not ndrangheta how do you know ? I ask the same question back to you prove it.
I say he was both.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/28/18 05:32 PM

Indeed Luppino was involved in both groups there are stlll many luppinos in Calabrian mafia. Also Violis back in Sinopoli. Its documented that even Vic Cotroni was at meetings of the locali in Ontario and at the same time was godfather to one of Carmine Galante's children.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/28/18 06:10 PM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Indeed Luppino was involved in both groups there are stlll many luppinos in Calabrian mafia. Also Violis back in Sinopoli. Its documented that even Vic Cotroni was at meetings of the locali in Ontario and at the same time was godfather to one of Carmine Galante's children.


The Vic & his brother Giuseppe also had ties with other locali from Reggio. Just like Giacomo Luppino & Magddino, the Cotroni's, also had good relations with the Bonanno's that lasted for decades.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/28/18 11:25 PM

The Rizzutos had their own links to NY mafia and Cosa Nostra in Agrigento.
Posted By: BlackFamily

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/29/18 03:08 AM

Originally Posted by Blackmobs
In Montreal-north,it was Master B first, then Compagnie B, then Neg Bo, then Outlaws, then BMF.
Master B, Compagnie and Neg Bo, are all linked to one guy. You probably read about him, Beauvoir.


Yes I have. Between the CDPs & Bo-Gars , who's more larger and have the deepest pockets?
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/29/18 03:51 AM

Originally Posted by BlackFamily
Originally Posted by Blackmobs
In Montreal-north,it was Master B first, then Compagnie B, then Neg Bo, then Outlaws, then BMF.
Master B, Compagnie and Neg Bo, are all linked to one guy. You probably read about him, Beauvoir.


Yes I have. Between the CDPs & Bo-Gars , who's more larger and have the deepest pockets?


CDPs, Crips in montreal, are more linked to the Hells Angels than Bloods. Theirs many reasons why.
First, most of the time we are talking about the eastside of montreal. And most Bloods neighborhoods, are also neighborhoods of a large italian community, like st-leonard and rdp. While, Crips neighborhoods are closer to bikers neighborhoods, st-michel, villeray and pie9 are close to hochelagua-maisonneuve (stronghold of the Hells).
Montreal gangs started in the late 80s, so during the 90s, most gangs members like the Cdp’s and Bo were in their late teens or early 20s. So they rely on adult organizations., like the mob and Bikers.
The mob didn’t really work well with gangs in their neighborhoods (mostly bloods), probably because of racism, or the mob tends to look down on black gangs. While the bikers, some were racist but many were not, also theirs was the war between hells and rock machine. Sonthe crips helped the Hells win this war. So the hells, kind of show the crips how to step up in the criminal world, with contacts for drugs, guns etc.
If you look, most of the rich street gangs members. like really rich arw crips. You have bloods that are really rich, bit you have more crips. When I say crips, i’m not only talking about CDP, but also, 67, Ruffryders, and the orher offset.
Posted By: Stubbs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/29/18 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by Hollander

First he had tried to convince the old Nick Rizzuto to step down, and let younger blood rule.


I had always assumed because Sal Montagna was the Bonannos acting boss, that according to LCN protocol he outranked Nick Sr, who was a capo (the capo since Vito said no to Sal Vitale). So Sal was essentially telling Nick (not asking) to step down so someone else would be installed as the capo of the Rizzuto faction... or Sal would run it himself. Because Nick said no he had to be hit... he was in violation of protocol in that he went against a direct order from a superior.

And my thinking was that Nick Sr told Sal no because Nick and Vito were considering themselves 100% independent from New York. They thought were too powerful to put up with all of the bs and rats in NY.

But the Rizzutos underestimated how important it is to have the Bonanno flag behind them... and that the Bonannos wanted to get Montreal back in line. And the Bonannos were also making inroads with the Ndrangheta in Ontario. He also underestimated the Reynald Dejardins faction who wanted more control. Throw in the Violis in Hamilton insreasing their power, you have multiple different groups aligned against the Rizzutos.

Sal was going to run everything in Montreal with Reynald, but possibly Sal’s ego was too big and he wasnt diplomatic enough to pull it off and keep all of the factions in-line like Vito did. So Sal and Reynald had a falling out and Sal failed to have Reynald killed, then got killed in return.

Or, and this is a recent theory I just heard - Sal never tried to have Reynald killed... it was actually the Rizzutos who tried to hit Reynald, he just misread the attempted hit. He mistakenly thought Sal did was behind the hit and had him killed. So, the Rizzuto faction successfully splintered the rebel faction.
Posted By: BlackFamily

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/29/18 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by Blackmobs
Originally Posted by BlackFamily
Originally Posted by Blackmobs
In Montreal-north,it was Master B first, then Compagnie B, then Neg Bo, then Outlaws, then BMF.
Master B, Compagnie and Neg Bo, are all linked to one guy. You probably read about him, Beauvoir.


Yes I have. Between the CDPs & Bo-Gars , who's more larger and have the deepest pockets?


CDPs, Crips in montreal, are more linked to the Hells Angels than Bloods. Theirs many reasons why.
First, most of the time we are talking about the eastside of montreal. And most Bloods neighborhoods, are also neighborhoods of a large italian community, like st-leonard and rdp. While, Crips neighborhoods are closer to bikers neighborhoods, st-michel, villeray and pie9 are close to hochelagua-maisonneuve (stronghold of the Hells).
Montreal gangs started in the late 80s, so during the 90s, most gangs members like the Cdp’s and Bo were in their late teens or early 20s. So they rely on adult organizations., like the mob and Bikers.
The mob didn’t really work well with gangs in their neighborhoods (mostly bloods), probably because of racism, or the mob tends to look down on black gangs. While the bikers, some were racist but many were not, also theirs was the war between hells and rock machine. Sonthe crips helped the Hells win this war. So the hells, kind of show the crips how to step up in the criminal world, with contacts for drugs, guns etc.
If you look, most of the rich street gangs members. like really rich arw crips. You have bloods that are really rich, bit you have more crips. When I say crips, i’m not only talking about CDP, but also, 67, Ruffryders, and the orher offset.


What about other Haitian crews or syndicates that's involved in the drug trade?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/29/18 09:28 PM

Originally Posted by Stubbs
Originally Posted by Hollander

First he had tried to convince the old Nick Rizzuto to step down, and let younger blood rule.


I had always assumed because Sal Montagna was the Bonannos acting boss, that according to LCN protocol he outranked Nick Sr, who was a capo (the capo since Vito said no to Sal Vitale). So Sal was essentially telling Nick (not asking) to step down so someone else would be installed as the capo of the Rizzuto faction... or Sal would run it himself. Because Nick said no he had to be hit... he was in violation of protocol in that he went against a direct order from a superior.

And my thinking was that Nick Sr told Sal no because Nick and Vito were considering themselves 100% independent from New York. They thought were too powerful to put up with all of the bs and rats in NY.

But the Rizzutos underestimated how important it is to have the Bonanno flag behind them... and that the Bonannos wanted to get Montreal back in line. And the Bonannos were also making inroads with the Ndrangheta in Ontario. He also underestimated the Reynald Dejardins faction who wanted more control. Throw in the Violis in Hamilton insreasing their power, you have multiple different groups aligned against the Rizzutos.

Sal was going to run everything in Montreal with Reynald, but possibly Sal’s ego was too big and he wasnt diplomatic enough to pull it off and keep all of the factions in-line like Vito did. So Sal and Reynald had a falling out and Sal failed to have Reynald killed, then got killed in return.

Or, and this is a recent theory I just heard - Sal never tried to have Reynald killed... it was actually the Rizzutos who tried to hit Reynald, he just misread the attempted hit. He mistakenly thought Sal did was behind the hit and had him killed. So, the Rizzuto faction successfully splintered the rebel faction.


Good summary Stubbs.

With regards to the recent theory. If it were true then Calogero Milioto would have to be in on it because the following was conversation was intercepted :

"Three weeks later, on Aug. 30, 2011, Mirarchi informed Desjardins that Calogero Milioto, 45, (one of the men who ultimately pleaded guilty to being part of the conspiracy to murder Montagna) had been approached by someone on Montagna’s side of the dispute with an offer to kill Desjardins.

Milioto was apparently a known associate of Mirarchi when the offer was made, and the move seemed desperate to Desjardins. In a message he sent back to Mirarchi, Desjardins reacted by stating Montagna was “trying to win by any way.”
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/29/18 11:13 PM

Originally Posted by BlackFamily
Originally Posted by Blackmobs
Originally Posted by BlackFamily
Originally Posted by Blackmobs
In Montreal-north,it was Master B first, then Compagnie B, then Neg Bo, then Outlaws, then BMF.
Master B, Compagnie and Neg Bo, are all linked to one guy. You probably read about him, Beauvoir.


Yes I have. Between the CDPs & Bo-Gars , who's more larger and have the deepest pockets?


CDPs, Crips in montreal, are more linked to the Hells Angels than Bloods. Theirs many reasons why.
First, most of the time we are talking about the eastside of montreal. And most Bloods neighborhoods, are also neighborhoods of a large italian community, like st-leonard and rdp. While, Crips neighborhoods are closer to bikers neighborhoods, st-michel, villeray and pie9 are close to hochelagua-maisonneuve (stronghold of the Hells).
Montreal gangs started in the late 80s, so during the 90s, most gangs members like the Cdp’s and Bo were in their late teens or early 20s. So they rely on adult organizations., like the mob and Bikers.
The mob didn’t really work well with gangs in their neighborhoods (mostly bloods), probably because of racism, or the mob tends to look down on black gangs. While the bikers, some were racist but many were not, also theirs was the war between hells and rock machine. Sonthe crips helped the Hells win this war. So the hells, kind of show the crips how to step up in the criminal world, with contacts for drugs, guns etc.
If you look, most of the rich street gangs members. like really rich arw crips. You have bloods that are really rich, bit you have more crips. When I say crips, i’m not only talking about CDP, but also, 67, Ruffryders, and the orher offset.


What about other Haitian crews or syndicates that's involved in the drug trade?


InMontreal?
You gave alot more. CDP and Bo are the most well known, because of their war in the 90s. But you got gangs like bad boys, dope squad, family, 47, outlaws.
You also got haitian gangs and jamaicans gangs in the western part of Montreal. Alot of the jamaican gangs of Momtreal are linked with the jamaicans gangs from toronto.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/30/18 11:56 PM

Originally Posted by Hollander
m2w you can now post Cuntrera it´s not seen as a bad word anymore. wink


You're welcome wink

I got tired of always seeing the censor so I asked SC to let us use it since it's used a lot in the Montreal/Canada threads.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/01/19 04:29 PM

Thanks dixie,

Today, the biker gangs, the Italian Mafia and street gangs all work together. "The links are so close between the groups that police investigators talk about organized crime in general and refuse to assign crimes to different strains."

https://ici.radio-canada.ca/premier...s-angels-motards-daniel-renaud-la-presse
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/12/19 02:11 AM

https://montrealgazette.com/news/ju...gainst-leonardo-rizzuto-should-be-tossed

Judge decides Feb. 25 if case against Leonardo Rizzuto should be tossed
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/16/19 01:42 AM

La filière montréalaise d'El Chapo

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...39-la-filiere-montrealaise-del-chapo.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/18/19 12:54 PM

Latest article by Daniel Renaud regards Francesco Del Balso.

Go to link below and then scroll down a little.

Crime organisé libérations conditionnelles.
Le comportement d’un mafieux tracasse les services correctionnels.

http://plus.lapresse.ca/screens/8ac6c94d-022b-4437-ace9-637a40fd6555__7C___0.html
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/18/19 11:01 PM

^^^^
Alleged Montreal Mafia leader Francesco Del Balso granted fifth release

https://montrealgazette.com/news/al...ancesco-del-balso-granted-fifth-release/
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/19/19 01:27 AM

^^^^
Please let me know whether you are unable to view the French-language article to which I've linked below.

Coupable d’avoir menacé un journaliste, le mafioso Del Balso sera libéré

https://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2019/01...liste-le-mafioso-del-balso-sera-libere-1
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/22/19 08:05 PM

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...-fellow-officer-suspended-for-two-months

Montreal cop who sold steroids to fellow officer suspended for two months
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/22/19 09:08 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
^^^^
Please let me know whether you are unable to view the French-language article to which I've linked below.

Coupable d’avoir menacé un journaliste, le mafioso Del Balso sera libéré

https://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2019/01...liste-le-mafioso-del-balso-sera-libere-1


Us in the EU can't read it.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/22/19 09:23 PM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Originally Posted by antimafia
^^^^
Please let me know whether you are unable to view the French-language article to which I've linked below.

Coupable d’avoir menacé un journaliste, le mafioso Del Balso sera libéré

https://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2019/01...liste-le-mafioso-del-balso-sera-libere-1


Us in the EU can't read it.


Below is a Google Translate translation, warts and all.

Guilty of threatening journalist, mafioso Del Balso will be released
Éric Thibault | Le Journal de Montréal | Published on January 18, 2019 at 12:15 pm

Photo caption: The mafioso Francesco Del Balso will be able to regain his freedom after three months of penitence behind bars for threatening a journalist from our Investigation Bureau.

The Parole Board of Canada (PBC) gave her another chance on Thursday, but she warned the 48-year-old Lavallois that she is clearly "dissatisfied" with the behavior he's been showing for the last three years in recent years. attempts to reintegrate society.

Del Balso was forced to return to the penitentiary no less than four times because his statutory release - a privilege he has been entitled to since he served two-thirds of a 15-year sentence imposed after his arrest for trafficking drug and gangsterism in Operation Colisée 2006 - was suspended each time.

"Old habits"
In its decision Le Journal received a copy Friday, the PBC finds that this former strongman of the Rizzuto clan is still struggling to manage his emotions and he tends to "fall back into his old habits" mafia intimidating and threatening soon that he is upset.

This is what happened on October 11th during his last free day.

He went to the Drummondville courthouse to obtain a court order to prevent journalist Félix Séguin from contacting him.

The mafioso was still embittered by a report broadcast a month earlier, in the Journal and on the airwaves of TVA, citing his alleged extortion attempts in pizzerias in Quebec. However, no charges were laid against him.

Del Balso first spoke about the order sought to a prosecutor and two police officers on site but they "did not price seriously," says the PBC.

"Will I have to deal with it myself and arrange for him to be in a box," said Del Balso in front of witnesses in reference to the journalist, according to the PBC's decision.

The same day, correctional services brought Del Balso back to the penitentiary as he had just violated his release conditions. And the next day he appeared in court to answer a charge for uttering threats.

Frustrated
He pleaded guilty on December 6, receiving 30 days in jail and a two-year probation. Del Balso said he talked about "frustration" and that he "did not really think" what he said.

The PBC told him not to contact journalist Séguin until the end of his sentence.

Commissioners also took the opportunity to deplore the fact that his previous releases were often tainted by his "lack of transparency" and his disagreements with the federal staff responsible for his supervision.

For three years, when he is not incarcerated, Del Balso works for a fruit and vegetable distribution company.

Eventful liberation
His first two statutory release suspensions had followed the murders of his former mafia partners, Lorenzo Giordano and Rocco Sollecito, both shot dead in Laval in the spring of 2017. The authorities had then received information that Del Balso was "the next on the list".

Then, on May 7, 2017, an armed and violent hoodie appeared in his absence at his former home in the Vimont neighborhood, demanding to know where Del Balso was.

The authorities had immediately returned the Mafioso impulsive to detention, in part because he had dumped his electronic bracelet with a GPS device through which the correctional service could follow him from a distance.

Del Balso claims he has cut the bridges with the Montreal mafia and intends to live his life away from crime, the commission said.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/23/19 08:46 AM

Thanks antimafia, I wonder if the threats against them came from the Hells Angels.
Posted By: vito_andolini

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/24/19 06:04 PM

Tony Magi got hit early this morning and has been rushed to the hospital. If you ask me, it was years that he had this coming to him. More details to come.
Posted By: vito_andolini

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/24/19 06:05 PM

https://globalnews.ca/news/4884610/montreal-police-attempted-murder-ndg/
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/24/19 06:52 PM

Confirmed: Tony Magi is dead
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/24/19 06:54 PM

3 bullets in the chest and one in the head
Posted By: housepainter

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/24/19 07:16 PM

They finally got him. I remember being in a Depaneur (convenience store) and he comes in and stands behind me in line, waiting to be served. All I kept thinking was someone could burst in and off him any minute and I am right next to they guy.. The time I saw him, he had no security. I know that if you walked by his house, and I have on many an occasion, there was always someone in a car taking down plate numbers and giving you the stink eye.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/24/19 07:36 PM

https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/mafia-linked-tony-magi-shot-and-killed-in-ndg-1.4267488
Posted By: m2w

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/24/19 07:41 PM

it was the rizzuto faction
Posted By: Ravens410

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/24/19 09:14 PM

Originally Posted by m2w
it was the rizzuto faction

What makes you say that? This shit is crazy up there, it’s like the old west.
Posted By: m2w

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/24/19 09:22 PM

Originally Posted by Ravens410
Originally Posted by m2w
it was the rizzuto faction

What makes you say that? This shit is crazy up there, it’s like the old west.


who else? it's the most probable
Posted By: Ravens410

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/24/19 09:55 PM

Originally Posted by m2w
Originally Posted by Ravens410
Originally Posted by m2w
it was the rizzuto faction

What makes you say that? This shit is crazy up there, it’s like the old west.


who else? it's the most probable


Wasn’t Magi tight with Rizzuto? They have wiretaps with Rizzuto and Magi on YouTube discussing business
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/24/19 10:18 PM

After the first attack on Magi, Nick Rizzuto Jr. was shot dead and they blamed Magi. But that happened ten years ago the whole landscape has changed with new players so who knows.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/25/19 01:16 AM

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...b-mafia-plans-exposed-in-project-colisee

Wiretaps reveal crime family's hidden tangled web; Mafia plans exposed in Project Colisée

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...ndition-after-being-gunned-down-in-n-d-g

Update: Mafia-tied developer Tony Magi dead after shooting in N.D.G.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/25/19 01:23 AM

https://nationalpost.com/news/canad...zzuto-crime-family-gunned-down-in-street

After escaping death for years, Montreal businessman linked to Rizzuto crime family gunned down in street
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/25/19 01:25 AM

He had 9 lives.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/25/19 09:30 AM

https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/vito-rizzuto-tony-magi-ties-a-timeline

Vito Rizzuto-Tony Magi ties: A timeline
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/25/19 09:37 AM

https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/...ived-many-shootings-has-died-in-montreal

A Mob Associate Who Survived Many Shootings Has Died in Montreal
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/25/19 11:53 AM

Oh shit, they finally got him!!!
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/25/19 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by Ravens410
Wasn’t Magi tight with Rizzuto? They have wiretaps with Rizzuto and Magi on YouTube discussing business


They were involved in quite a few projects but I'm not sure we could say they were "tight". It's been long thought that Magi was the one that set up Nick Jr. and had the assassin waiting outside (Ducarme Joseph).

Who do we have left on the hit list? Desjardins?
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/25/19 03:13 PM

Link to Daniel Renaud and Vincent Larouche's French-language article in La Presse appears below. The list you see first -- it appears before the article -- was authored by Renaud only.

http://mi.lapresse.ca/screens/837032d4-7e1e-4845-9fa0-dd5625687fa9__7C___0.html

Google Translate translation is below.

ORGANIZED CRIME
THE "BLACKLIST" OF VITO RIZZUTO

By Daniel Renaud

SEPTEMBER 16, 2011

Attempted murder on Raynald Desjardins

Desjardins is suspected of having been part of an alliance to overthrow the Rizzuto at the head of the Montreal mafia in 2009-2010. An armed man, arrived by watercraft, fired several times at him on Lévesque Boulevard, along the Rivière des Prairies in Laval, without reaching it. According to police sources, it is the Sicilian clan that is behind this murder attempt.

DECEMBER 13, 2011

Attempted murder on Antonio Pietrantonio

Formerly close and faithful Rizzuto, Antonio Pietrantonio, aka Tony Suzuki, would have rallied to one of the rebel clans of the mafia in 2009-2010. He was shot several times when he left a restaurant on Jarry Street and survived.

NOVEMBER 4, 2012

Murder of Giuseppe Di Maulo

The brother-in-law of Raynald Desjardins would have lacked loyalty and would not have acted in a way to defend the interests of the Rizzuto while the godfather was imprisoned thousands of kilometers in Colorado. He was killed while returning to his residence in Blainville by an individual who was waiting for him, lurking in a grove. Di Maulo was shot dead one month after Vito Rizzuto was released and returned to Canada.

APRIL 9, 2013

Murder of Juan Ramon Fernandez

The former lieutenant and trusted man of Vito Rizzuto was found dead in Sicily. Police sources believe that Fernandez was killed because he walked into the local ganglands, but others believe that the avenging arm of the Montreal mafia godfather has crossed the Atlantic and caught up with his former lieutenant, who would have shown too much loyalty to Raynald Desjardins.

JULY 8, 2013

Murder of Giuseppe de Vito

De Vito was reportedly part of the alliance of clan leaders who attempted to overthrow the Rizzuto. He was poisoned with cyanide at Donnacona Penitentiary where he was serving a sentence imposed in the wake of Operation Coliseum which hit hard the traditional Italian organized crime in 2006.

NOVEMBER 10, 2013

Murder of Moreno Gallo

Formerly very close to Vito Rizzuto, the Calabrian would have lacked loyalty to the latter and is part of the coup plotters of 2009-2010. He was murdered in the restaurant of a hotel in Acapulco, Mexico, in what looks like a trap, a November 10, the same day as the murder of the old godfather Nicolo Rizzuto committed three years earlier .

AUGUST 1, 2014

Murder of Ducarme Joseph

The gang leader and his men have always been suspected - but never accused - of killing Federico Del Peschio and Nicolo Rizzuto Jr. Joseph was literally stared at by a gunshot fired at close range in his stronghold of Saint-Michel. Documents from the Magot-Mastiff investigation revealed that Vito Rizzuto wanted to torture Joseph to avenge his son's death and that several groups of killers were on his heels. Joseph was killed after the natural death of Vito Rizzuto in December 2013.


MURDER OF TONY MAGI
"IT WAS THE LAST FILE TO SETTLE"
Vito Rizzuto's posthumous vengeance is now complete, police say

By Daniel Renaud and Vincent Larouche

"He was on the list of those who had to leave. It had been years since we wondered why this guy was still breathing, "a police source told La Presse.

"It was the last file to settle," adds another.

The posthumous vengeance of former Montreal Mafia supporter Vito Rizzuto - who died naturally five years ago - is the assumption favored by the police specialized in the fight against organized crime to explain the assassination of the building contractor Antonio Magi.

The body of the 59-year-old businessman was found shot several times, some at the head, around 11:15 am yesterday morning in front of a garage door of a building under construction on Beaconsfield Street near Saint-Jacques Street, in the Notre-Dame-de-Grâce area. The death was found on the spot, although, officially, the authorities first stated that the man was in critical condition.

A MAN MARKED

The businessman has been on a tightrope for years, especially since December 28, 2009, when his partner, Vito Rizzuto's eldest son, Nicolo was killed near the offices of the Magi company, FTM Construction, on Upper Lachine Street.

The names of Magi and a gang leader who worked for his safety, Ducarme Joseph, have constantly come back in the police investigation into the murder of the godfather's son over the years. The entrepreneur has always denied his involvement.

In 2005, Magi was kidnapped for a suspected Mafia affair and managed to flee her captors with her hands still tied behind her back.

In 2008, he was riddled with missiles while on his vehicle on Cavendish Boulevard and miraculously survived. Magi suspected the Rizzuto of being behind this attack and these also denied.

Subsequently, Magi moved in armored SUV, flanked by bodyguards, including former police officers. In September 2010, he was arrested for possession by the investigators of the SPVM, including Philippe Paul, now retired.

"At the time, it was presumed that there was an opportunity contract on Tony Magi and Ducarme Joseph. "

- Philippe Paul

In the criminal environment, an "open contract" is an open contract that can be executed by anyone who wants to earn tens of thousands of dollars. The offer circulates by word of mouth, and the first person to accomplish the fatal mission can come to the premium.

When they searched the businessman's home, the investigators found a semi-automatic pistol in his bedside table and rolls of plastic to apply on the windows to make them bullet-proof. Magi pleaded guilty, but received an absolute discharge. He was often told by the police that his life was in danger and he used this argument to justify his behavior.

After the murder of Nicolo Rizzuto, Tony Magi was the victim of at least two known failed bombings, while a man opened fire in the direction of the car driven by his wife in the winter of 2011 and an individual had was seen, with a long gun, on his private land in 2013.

"In my opinion, Magi had lowered his guard," responded a policeman, trying to explain how he was killed after so many years.

PACT WITH THE DEVIL

According to police officers, Tony Magi's problems and his links with the mafia began when the businessman had financial problems related to the construction of the 1000 luxury condominium building, the Commune, in a old cold store in Old Montreal.

Investors, who feared losing their money, asked Vito Rizzuto to get involved. It was at this point that the godfather placed his son Nicolo with Tony Magi, according to what he himself told investigators who visited him at the penitentiary in Florence, Colorado, where he was serving a sentence. for a triple murder committed in New York in 1981, and investigators Charbonneau commission.

"My son should not die! He had told Pascal Leclair and Jean-François Veillette of the SPVM, banging a table in the common room of the penitentiary in Florence with his fist.

It would be in the late 2000s that Magi would have hired Ducarme Joseph for his protection. According to our information, investigators have uncovered clues suggesting that Ducarme Joseph and some of his men were present on the scenes of the murders of Nicolo Rizzuto Jr and Federico Del Peschio, co-owner of restaurant La Cantina and close friend of Rizzuto killed during the summer of 2009.

Joseph was killed in 2014. "It was a matter of time" before Magi suffered the same fate, yesterday we wrote sources from the judiciary and police. Especially as the time passed, more these delays could have been interpreted as a sign of weakness on the part of the Sicilian clan.

"It's the influence of the family. It was necessary to avenge the violent death of the son. The loop ended yesterday, "concluded another police officer.

HARSH RELATIONSHIPS

But even if the posthumous revenge of the godfather is the preferred thesis, the investigators will also have to examine the affairs of Magi, who was not reputed to be an easy partner.

For example, Tony Magi and his family had been involved for years in extremely acrimonious litigation with financier Allan Schachter. The case came from a loan of 2.4 million granted in 2008 by Schachter to support the realization of a real estate project in the area of ​​the rue Bois-des-Caryers, in which the construction company Magi . The case was to return to court in February, after a dozen round trips to the judge over the years.

Schachter claimed that the loan had been renewed verbally at the interest rate of 12% in 2013, which the Magi denied. A chemical expert had come to analyze the ink of the signatures on certain documents because of suspicions of irregularities. Allegations of hundreds of thousands of cash dollars secretly collected from buyers of homes and condos in the area were launched. The judge had even had to look into the betrayal of Schachter's childhood friend who had gone to work for the Magi family. Some estimates now estimated the claim at $ 5 million because of accumulated interest.

In December 2017, Allan Schachter's residence in Mount Royal was the target of a Molotov cocktail. Then, last May, a building in the Bois-des-Caryers sector was the target of arson. A 61-year-old woman died in the fire. According to our information, the police suspect that the deadly fire could have some connection with this dispute between the lender and the borrowers.
Posted By: Gambler007

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/25/19 11:01 PM

is the job really over??? , Desjardins is still walking and Suzuki looks more powerful then ever, if its true of his connection to El Chapo.
Posted By: JC

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/26/19 01:30 AM

Originally Posted by Gambler007
is the job really over??? , Desjardins is still walking and Suzuki looks more powerful then ever, if its true of his connection to El Chapo.


Desjardins is in prison and Suzuki was actually shot by Dejardins'' people. According to the Sixth Family Desjardins had actually sided with Mongtagna against Desjardins before Montagna got hit, Suzuki was shot shortly after his murder.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/26/19 06:14 PM

https://www.telemia.it/2019/01/la-g...e-della-ndrangheta-sui-porti-del-canada/

The War in Montreal and the ndrangheta sights on Canadian ports.
Posted By: BensonHURST

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/26/19 06:59 PM

Originally Posted by Gambler007
is the job really over??? , Desjardins is still walking and Suzuki looks more powerful then ever, if its true of his connection to El Chapo.


I AGREE after all this, 100+ murders later he is the guy who, spear-headed this whole.thing.

He will be out shortly, to let him walk would be crazy.

And while they are at it, to have killed every other player and leave Suzuki?

What sense does that make?

They gotta finish the job.

The same way Michael had to kill Fredo, 5he Rizzuto's have to kill Desjardins and Suzuki.
Posted By: BensonHURST

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/26/19 07:00 PM

It's real "GREASE-BALL SHIT"
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/26/19 07:11 PM

In Montreal, Street gangs is Organized crime

THEY SAY TO FORM "A FAMILY"
The undercover police investigation that uncovered the alliance between street gangs, mafia and bikers
Gregory Woolley "is the actor who changed the portrait of organized crime in Montreal" by orchestrating the alliance of all his clans, SPVM commander David Bertrand told the Journal. Here is a portrait of this influential gang leader.
The police had never before seen a street gang leader arrive at the funeral of an Angel Hells in the Ferrari of an Italian mafia lawyer.

A search of the SPVM by Jean-Philippe Célestin, a close friend of Gregory Woolley and leader of the gang K-Crew who controlled several clubs on Saint-Laurent Street, allowed to find this painting of Célestin sitting on a throne.
That's what happened in Montreal on September 2, 2012, when Gregory Woolley and Me Loris Cavaliere came together in a funeral home on Sherbrooke Street East, before the funeral of biker Gaétan Comeau
In spite of himself, Cavaliere - who has long represented the late godfather Vito Rizzuto and was removed from the Bar after his conviction for gangsterism in 2017 - ended up explaining to the police the strong symbolic of this gesture.
All under the same roof

After reading an article in Le Journal, the lawyer's wife asked him why "Italians", bikers and gangs worked and ate "all under one roof", unlike in the past.
"That's thanks to me. Do you remember when I went to the [Hells] funeral with Greg [Woolley]? He told him without suspecting that the police were registering him.
On August 20, 2015, it was also by spying what was said in the offices of Cavaliere that the police officers of Operation Magot were able to measure the full extent of this new alliance between organized crime groups.

To keep the city »
The police pickups then recorded Woolley, the acting mafia boss Stefano Sollecito and the son of the late godfather, Leonardo Rizzuto, in full reunion.
"We are forming a family! I'm watching his back and he's watching my back, "Sollecito said as he talked about his relationship with the man he simply called" Greg ".
But it was Woolley who dictated to the Mafiosi "what to do to keep the city".
"A bullet in the chest is what we are supposed to do," he said as the three men suspected one of their associates of being a traitor who informed the police.
It was also about the sharing of drug territories in the Montreal area, the "sales taxes" to pay to the Hells and conflicts to settle.
Such synergy seemed unthinkable after former high-ranking mafia boss Francesco Arcadi compared black gangs to "monkeys" that "grow like mushrooms." He too was registered by the police. He regretted his words when he was admitted to prison in 2008.
Clashes in jail
It was Woolley, then incarcerated for biker war in the Hells camp, who settled this conflict.
Woolley, who spent the entire period from 2000 to 2011 behind bars, also took the opportunity to build relationships with the godfather Vito Rizzuto.
In the summer of 2005, the two spent three months at the Sainte-Anne-des-Plaines penitentiary where they were "seen together several times talking in the outdoor courtyard," insisted Sergeant François Lambert of the SPVM. testifying during the judicial phase of Operation Magot.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/26/19 07:12 PM

The alliance concluded in 2012 between Montreal street gangs to share the criminal market with the Hells Angels and the mafia has brought down the killings committed by organized crime gangs in Quebec, according to unpublished data from Statistics Canada, obtained by The Journal. The same can not be said for the other four most populous provinces, where street gangs remain divided.
THE UNION IS NOT FORCE ELSEWHERE IN CANADA
The new business model of street gangs and their biker and mafia partners in Quebec has not yet been adopted in Ontario and Western Canada.

Here, the Hells do not control all the illicit markets like in Quebec. There are some alliances involving gangs, but there is more competition and it's very volatile, "said criminologist Martin Bouchard, a professor at Simon Fraser University in British Columbia.
"What's happening in Toronto and Vancouver is often little-known gangs fighting to try and pick up crumbs that remain in the criminal market," he added. Or young people exposed to the subculture of firearms who shoot for junk. It creates an escalation of aftershocks. "
We share the cake
Mr. Bouchard believes that the profile of gangs is very different in Montreal.
"They have reached a level of maturity. There is a well-established hierarchy with other organized crime groups. The rules are clear, we share the cake and we know what to expect. "
He believes that the police alone can not stop the violence between gangs in Ontario or the West "only by arrests".
"They can speed up the end. We saw it in Quebec during the biker war with the Carcajou squad and Operation Spring 2001 against the Hells. But they will need help. "
Moreover, it has not been possible to quantify the current Quebec gangs' numbers, as was the case in the past.
In Montreal, the SPVM says it no longer keeps statistics on the number of gangs or their members. The police services of Laval, Longueuil and Gatineau have preferred not to reveal their figures in the Journal.
♦ In Quebec City, where the late Wolf Pack made the headlines between 2002 and 2004 in an unprecedented juvenile prostitution scandal, the police say no street gang is currently established there.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/26/19 07:13 PM

From sworn enemies to business partners
The last street gang-related murder in Montreal dates back to 2016, while in Toronto it is the root cause of a record of 96 homicides in 2018

Settling scores between street gangs has exploded the number of murders in the country in two years. It's the opposite in Quebec, where once-enemy gangs have become unlikely business partners.

It's so rare that we talk about street gangs that it's a bit like they did not exist anymore! "Says René-André Brisebois, who gives the course" Gang Phenomenon "at the University of Montreal.
According to the adage "unity is strength", the first street gangs appeared more than 30 years ago in Montreal "in response to discrimination or racism", before embarking on crime, d after this criminologist.
In 2012, long-time rival bands pushed the saying further.
Under the rule of Gregory Woolley, the only black gangster to have been admitted to the Hells Angels family, they were convinced to unite in an economic alliance with bikers and mafia factions.

They realized that there was room for everyone [in the criminal market] and that they could make more money through business associations. It is no longer a question of respecting colors, but rather of maximizing profits, "said Major David Bertrand of the Organized Crime Division of the Montreal Police Service (SPVM).
In 2017 and 2018, out of a total of 15 murders attributable to organized crime in Montreal, Major Bertrand confirmed to the Journal that no one is connected to street gangs.
"They have learned to do business together, often in lucrative niches like pimping and fraud, where police investigations are difficult to conduct. They are less visible than before and attract less police heat, "said René-André Brisebois.
There is no criminal alliance of such magnitude anywhere in Canada, according to our information.
The longest lull
A dozen years ago, the Bloods (Red) of Montreal-North, the Crips (Bleus) of Saint-Michel and the many Posse of Jamaican origin in the West Island of Montreal fired on each other every week.
"It was war. But street gangs are definitely in the most peaceful period I've seen in Montreal, "says Harry Delva, a gang and street worker in the Saint-Michel neighborhood for 30 years.
He never thought that was possible, according to Mr. Delva's testimony before a committee of members in Ottawa on January 30, 2007.
Not the right color
"Will we be able to stop all this? Me, I tell you in advance that no, unfortunately, "he said recalling that these young people having" nothing to lose "clashed" in the streets, around schools and parks. "
On the afternoon of October 28, 2005, 17-year-old Patricio Astudillo was stabbed to death in front of a Cartierville high school for displaying his "blue" allegiance to his attackers on the Blood's red bandana.
" It was crazy. You could die if you did not wear the right colors. There have been a hundred deaths for that in Montreal, "said Detective Sergeant Jean-Claude Gauthier.
During these troubled years, the former expert on street gangs at the SPVM compiled "on a whiteboard" the list of murders and attempted murders, their dates and locations, the names of targets and suspects.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/26/19 07:14 PM

Gregory Wooley

THE GODFATHER OF THE STREET GANGS

As Vito Rizzuto was for the Italian mafia, Gregory Woolley is seen as the "godfather of blacks" forming gangs in Montreal.
This is how it is described by police informants from the gang community and cited in court documents of Operation Magot, which led to the arrest of Woolley in November 2015.
"We have seen how he plays a very, very major role [in the underworld]," said Captain David Bertrand, SPVM, who participated in this survey project. He changed the profile of organized crime in Montreal with his alliances. "
Rendezvous discoverers
His meetings on the only day of August 5, 2014 give a convincing example, according to the reports consulted by Le Journal.

The gang leader was also monitored during a meeting with mafioso Andrea Scoppa.
Spied on by a police surveillance team, Woolley left his home in Saint-Hubert around 11 am driving a gray Mercedes S450. He went to a downtown Montreal hotel to meet Andrea Scoppa, a big Mafia man with whom he scrambled the following year.

Gregory Woolley, left, with Hells Angels Salvatore Cazzetta (seen from the back) and Stéphane Jarry (right), all filmed by the police during the Magot investigation.
Two hours later, he parked his Mercedes near a restaurant on Newman Boulevard where two high-ranking Hells Angels, Salvatore Cazzetta and Stéphane Jarry, were waiting for him.
"All three of them give each other a handshake and a big hug with the pat on the back," the police officers said.

Woolley often met the one who was acting head of the Montreal mafia at that time, Stefano Sollecito.
Woolley completed his tour by going for an hour to talk with acting mafia boss Stefano Sollecito in an alleyway near an Italian café.
Paid "Coke"
Woolley was brewing millions of dollars in the narcotics market. With his right arm Dany "Lou" Cadet-Sprince, he directed "Les Bronzés", a clique that controlled the supply and trafficking of cocaine in Hochelaga-Maisonneuve.
Consumers sniffed about 40 kilos of coke a year from the Bronzés between 2011 and 2015, according to Judge Eric Downs.
And like the Hells Angels, Woolley levied a "tax" of a few thousand dollars a month on the "HO-MA" traffickers to have the right to sell their drugs.
Last October, Woolley was sentenced to eight years after convicted of conspiracy, drug trafficking and gangsterism. He could be released on parole by the end of 2020 as the court credited him with five years in pre-trial detention.
RECRUITED BY THE HELLS TO ELIMINATE COMPETITION
Before joining street gangs in a business alliance, Gregory Woolley took part in the Hells Angels' bloody war against a rival band, the Rock Machine.

On the morning of April 5, 2000, the person who was both a member of a Hells school club and leader of the new Syndicate street gang, went to Mirabel airport to catch a flight to the city. where he was born in Haiti, Port-au-Prince.

The security personnel immediately noticed the black sports bag he was carrying as hand luggage, adorned with a skull and identified with Rockers bikers.
Woolley calmly gave his bag to the agents to be examined by fluoroscopy. Suddenly, he asked to pick up his bag, but too late.
"I forgot something in my bag, I have to go and carry it in my car," he said in vain, according to the Mirabel police investigation report.
Officers were able to observe the barrel, barrel and buttstock on their monitor before alerting the police.
It was "by shucking his head" that he waited for the arrival of these. The weapon in question was a Smith & Wesson silver revolver loaded with three bullets.

The contents of his blue suitcase were also searched. Police found $ 8934, a Rockers scarf and a black wool hood.
He pleaded guilty on June 16, 2000 and was sentenced to two years in prison.
Accused of nine murders
"I do not want to see you," Gregory Woolley told the two investigators who arrested him for no fewer than nine murders on March 28, 2001.

He was held in Donnacona's maximum security penitentiary and was facing heavy charges in connection with Operation Spring 2001, which dealt a major blow to the Hells. He and several other bikers were charged with the killing of Rock Machine members or traffickers.

Among them were Johnny Plescio, a Rock Machine founder shot dead in his residence in Laval on September 8, 1998.

After the abortion of a 19-month mega-trial and an acquittal in a separate trial, Woolley was found not guilty of any of these murders.
But in June 2005, Woolley followed the lead of almost all of his acolytes and pleaded guilty to reduced charges of conspiracy, drug trafficking and gangsterism. He came out of jail in the summer of 2011.
The taxpayers then paid most of the bill for his defense, as for several Hells accused in this trick.
Her lawyer, Cristina Nedelcu, was awarded fees totaling $ 394,550 through Quebec legal aid.

Stator stabbed 187 times

An informant who had a sordid end told in court that Gregory Woolley had accompanied him as a "back-up" during his first murder because he was "used to".
Aime Simard had a short career in the Rockers' "football team", bringing together the most violent henchmen at the Hells club-school.
However, the jury did not believe him when Simard wanted to incriminate Woolley for the murder of the trafficker Jean-Marc Caissy, Ville-Émard, March 28, 1997.
Originally from Quebec City, Simard testified that he and Woolley each had a vehicle to go to a recreation center where Caissy played hockey that night.
The recruit said he executed the contract, adding that Woolley was armed and ready to intervene in case of a glitch.
Simard then had congratulations at a party at the Rockers' Lair on Gilford Street. The police intercepted a telephone conversation between him and Woolley, who was at home. The latter asked him if there was a lot of people at the party and if the guys were happy.
"Put it on, crunch! I feel almost like a p'lotte, so I'm kissing since I arrived here, "replied Simard.
On July 18, 1998, Woolley was acquitted.
Five years to the day after this verdict, Simard was killed by 187 stab wounds in a Saskatchewan penitentiary.
The detainee who stabbed him admitted that the Hells had paid him $ 25,000 for this crime.

Killing, for him, is like a citizen working from 9 to 5 ... "
It is with this sentence taken note by an investigator of the Carcajou squad that the informer Stéphane Sirois described the coolness of his ex-comrade Gregory Woolley.
The Rockers' striker had the reputation of being "very hardworking" and not afraid of anything, according to Sirois, a former member of the Hells school club.
On December 20, 1996, Pierre Beauchamps, a Rock Machine cocaine supplier, was shot at close range at the wheel of his minivan on a busy St. Catherine Street due to Christmas shopping.
Sirois claimed that Woolley admitted to him that he was the murderer. According to the informer, the accused had asked him to burn the coat he was wearing when he riddled Beauchamps with bullets. A coat that Sirois had offered him in the previous weeks.
Sirois' mission seemed to be won in advance because his testimony served to corroborate almost irrefutable scientific evidence in court.
In fact, Woolley's DNA was identified in a fisherman's hat found in a bin in the Bonaventure metro station. The same bin also contained a revolver, but the accused's fingerprints were not there.
A bit like during the famous trial of O.J. Simpson for the murder of his wife in 1995, Woolley ended up being acquitted as a result of numerous shortcomings in the Crown's case.
Due to a "lack of personnel", the police sent a rookie technician who was on his first-ever murder to document the crime scene.
This policeman not only made several mistakes as a beginner, but he also lied under oath to try to hide some blunders. A "disturbing" case in the eyes of the trial judge, which prompted the defense to evoke the possibility of producing evidence.
In addition, none of the police eyewitnesses had been able to assert under oath that the accused was indeed the gunman. One of them even said in court that it was no longer certain that the suspect was black.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/26/19 07:15 PM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2019/01/26/dennemis-jures-a-partenaires-daffaires
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/27/19 10:34 PM

Originally Posted by vito_andolini
Tony Magi got hit early this morning


Was it 4 'o clock in the morning?
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/27/19 10:41 PM

Originally Posted by JC
Originally Posted by Gambler007
is the job really over??? , Desjardins is still walking and Suzuki looks more powerful then ever, if its true of his connection to El Chapo.


Desjardins is in prison and Suzuki was actually shot by Dejardins'' people. According to the Sixth Family Desjardins had actually sided with Mongtagna against Desjardins before Montagna got hit, Suzuki was shot shortly after his murder.


LE apparantly believes he was hit by the Rizzuto group for siding with Montagna. He used to be close to Vito Rizzuto and Agostino Cuntrera. All seems to be forgiven by now.
Posted By: pmac

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/28/19 01:13 AM

Dixie wernt you calling it years back this guy tony magi was a dead man. I believe so. You nailed it. What the fuck is the reasoning for real estate nerds getting whacked. Its a shit show up there. Nothing honorable or organized about it up there. Point of the mafia was to make money them guys are idiot's
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/28/19 12:22 PM

I figured he was on the list as I truly think Magi set Nick Jr. up to be hit outside his office. It made sense to me, Magi had too much to lose with that project and with Vito getting one or more condos for free it was just that much more he lost in his eyes no matter if Vito helped him or not. I knew there was no way he could keep up that armed guard 24/7. I am surprised it took this long though.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/31/19 01:39 PM

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A man linked to the Mafia would be an owner of the Big Wheel
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/01/19 12:35 PM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2019/02/01/aux-trousses-dun-tueur-a-gages-1

In the hunt for a hitman
The capture of Frédérick Silva, a mafia-paid killer, is an urgent priority for the Montreal police

A Montreal Mafia hired assassin suspected of committing at least three homicides and one attempted murder is under constant police pursuit.

The capture of Frédérick Silva, one of the 10 most wanted criminals in Quebec for a year and a half, has even been raised as one of the top priorities to be addressed by the Montreal Police Service (SPVM). learned The Journal and its Investigation Bureau.

"It's one of the best criminals in recent years," a police source said of the 38-year-old, who uses at least three fake identities and different "looks" to escape. to the forces of order.

In action

It is Silva who allegedly murdered Sébastien Beauchamps, a former Rockers biker member, on the afternoon of December 20th, believe the SPVM's major crime investigators who are leading this manhunt with the Sûreté du Québec.

According to our information, the shooter was then filmed in action by a surveillance camera when he fired on the former bearer of the school-school Hells Angels, near a service station in the area St. Leonard.

Silva is also suspected of murdering Alessandro Vinci, the manager of a used car dealership in Laval, which was riddled with bullets on October 11.

The shooter is already accused of attempted murder at the expense of the mafia boss Salvatore Scoppa, in Terrebonne, in February 2017, as well as the murder of a client of the cabaret Les Amazones, during the night of May 24, 2017, in the Notre-Dame district. Dame-de-Grâce.

The police have information that Silva will be able to escape police forces with the protection and financial support of the Italian Mafia.

On March 27, 2015, Frédérick Silva was particularly noted police officers during the operation against the drug Magot, according to court documents consulted by Le Journal .

Members of the RCMP were then responsible for monitoring the movements of Stefano Sollecito, the interim leader of the Montreal Mafia.

Shortly before 2 pm, Silva, Sollecito and another mafia boss, Leonardo Rizzuto, son of the late godfather Vito Rizzuto, were observed leaving the Trudeau Airport terminal in Dorval.

The trio went aboard a black Honda Accord driven by Silva. He and Sollecito then went to eat and talk in English at a restaurant on Boulevard Pie-IX.

... and bikers

During this investigation, Silva was also seen with a Hells Angels trafficker, Gaétan Sévigny, in the latter's Porsche Cayenne, on February 25, 2014.

That same evening, Sévigny - who is serving a five-year sentence in connection with this operation - was observed with Sébastien Beauchamps at a restaurant in Terrebonne. This is the same Beauchamps murdered at the end of 2018.

"Silva is a good example of organized crime in 2019, where the different groups work together by sharing professional resources," said a source familiar with the issue.

♦ Considered "armed and dangerous", Frédérick Silva is constantly on the move, staying in rented apartments for short periods of time and frequently modifying his physical appearance.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/02/19 12:05 PM

Andrew Scoppa and Gregory Woolley

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Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/02/19 01:03 PM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2019/02/02/le-tueur-pourrait-avoir-frappe-12-fois

Hitman Frédérick Silva may have executed up to a dozen murder contracts for organized crime, most of them in Quebec and some in Ontario.

This is what tends to demonstrate the investigation into this alleged assassin wanted for 18 months and whose capture is now a priority of the Montreal Police (SPVM), as reported by Le Journal and its Investigation Bureau yesterday.

The SPVM has come to this estimate by analyzing similarities in several cases of mafia or Hells Angels homicides in recent years.

Also in Toronto

Police have not limited their examination in Quebec since three or four murders committed in the greater Toronto area could also be attributed to him, according to our information. This police hunt takes on a race against the clock to find Silva alive.
It is feared that anyone who has benefited from the protection and financial assistance of the Rizzuto clan is now "burned". Since it could become an embarrassing witness for his employers, it can not be ruled out that the mafia or bikers are trying to find him before the police to silence him.

"People who gave him contracts must now be worried," former SQ investigator Jean-François Brochu told LCN, suggesting that Silva could denounce his employers by becoming an informer if the police manages to pin it.


A danger

"He has become a danger and can not trust many people. It is also dangerous for the police who will try to stop him, "said Mr. Brochu, who led the investigation into imprisoning the hitman Gerald Gallant for 28 murders in 2006.

In Quebec, several hired assassins preferred to collaborate with the police in confessing their crimes, while incriminating the sponsors and accomplices of their murders, in order to save their lives.

This is particularly the case of Gallant, who also sentenced 11 people, former Angel Hells Angel Trudeau (involved in 43 murders), Donald Lavoie (27 murders for the Dubois clan) and the mafia killer Real Simard (five murders).

He knew he was being hunted

The investigators are able to link Frédérick Silva to at least three homicides, including two clerks while he knew himself labeled among the ten most wanted criminals in Quebec since June 2017.

On December 20, a surveillance camera filmed him while firing on the ex-biker Sébastien Beauchamps, shot near a service station in Saint-Léonard.

Silva is also the one who liquidated Alessandro Vinci in the offices of the car dealership of which he was manager in Laval, on October 11, 2018.

The 38-year-old suspect is already accused of murdering a client of Les Amazones dancers, Daniel Armando Somoza Guildea, who was killed after an argument on May 24, 2017 in Montreal.

Silva, who uses aliases and often changes his physical appearance to escape the police, is also charged with attempted murder on the mafia boss Salvatore Scoppa in Terrebonne in February 2017.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/02/19 01:54 PM

Good stuff Ciment thanks for posting.
Posted By: m2w

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/02/19 05:04 PM

so silva killed somebody in ontario?
the suspected shooter of musitano and mila barberi was connected to the rizzuto's too, so they are using hired killers to carried out murders in toronto/ontario
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/05/19 04:04 AM

Link to French-language article:

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2019/02/04/un-homme-agresse-a-larme-blanche-dans-un-bar

Translation (using Google Translate):

Stumped in a long past bar.
The place had already been the target of a Molotov cocktail in an attack linked to Italian organized crime.

The Rivière-des-Prairies bar, where a man was stabbed on Monday morning, has a troubled past that has resulted in two long suspensions of his liquor license and a criminal arson attack on the mafia.

At approximately 3:50 am, a 37-year-old man was stabbed in the upper body at 6th Ave. Bar & Grill for a reason that remained to be cleared up by the investigators.

"The people inside refuse to cooperate, so it is impossible for the moment to determine the reason for the attack and to know more about the suspect," said Andrée-Anne Picard, spokesman for the Service de Police of the City of Montreal.

The life of the victim, however, was not in danger.

Suspensions

The licensed establishment of boulevard Maurice-Duplessis, formerly known as Café Liana, has been repeatedly targeted by the authorities.

Its liquor sales licenses had been suspended for 20 days by the Liquor, Racing and Gaming Authority (RACJ) because of multiple shortcomings last July.

In addition to tolerating the presence of miners on site, the tenant was exploiting one of the permits without having the required and functional layout. Among the many commitments that the owner had made to the RACJ to preserve his rights, he had to "actively collaborate with the police service" and "install and keep functional a surveillance camera system".


The commissioners had also banned the operation of the establishment for 23 days in April 2016 for the same reasons. A local employee had also tried to hinder the work of a police officer.

In September of the same year, while the bar was still called Café Liana under the same manager, he had been the target of a Molotov cocktail.

The SPVM investigators suspected that the beginning of the fire was a message sent to Marco Pizzi, a major player in the new Italian organized crime watchdog.

A month earlier, the 48-year-old man had been the target of a spectacular murder attempt in Montreal East. For several weeks, other businesses related to him had been hit by arsonists, just like his car.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/05/19 01:13 PM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...sse-a-deja-fait-affaire-avec-des-mafieux

The V.-P. Martine Gaudreault shares her life with Alain Cormier, who was in business with people related to the Rizzuto clan

A major real estate finance manager of the Caisse de dépôt is a business partner and heart of a private lender long linked to the mafia clan Rizzuto, discovered our Investigation Bureau.

Since February 2010, Martine Gaudreault has been the Vice-President Real Estate Financing, Quebec and Eastern Canada, for Otéra Capital.

Otéra is a major subsidiary of the Caisse de dépôt et placement du Québec, Quebec's wool sock. He is a major player, with loans totaling $ 12.3 billion.

Ms. Gaudreault is the spouse of the lender Alain Cormier, president of the alternative loan firm Bancan. Research in Alain Cormier's business relations allowed us to discover the following:

Between 2008 and 2012, while in a relationship with Martine Gaudreault, Alain Cormier was in business with two members of the Rizzuto mafia family (see box). This is Leonardo Rizzuto, the son of Vito Rizzuto (former sponsor of the Montreal Mafia, now deceased), and Giovanna Cammalleri, who was the wife of Vito Rizzuto.
In 2009, Alain Cormier became a director of the company that was the promoter of the famous 1000 de la Commune in Montreal, the famous real estate project of Tony Magi, shot on January 24th.
The spouse of V.-P. Otéra also took out a loan with money laundering firm Samy Bitton in 2011.

Over the years, Martine Gaudreault also had business ties with her husband. They have been involved together in three companies since 2012.

In April 2012, she became the sole shareholder of a company that had been created by her husband and entrepreneur Gary Iacobaccio.

The latter has a criminal past and has been in business with Giuseppe Focarazzo, a man related to the Rizzuto clan.

Then, in June 2014, Gaudreault and Cormier both become involved in two numbered companies that will be used to purchase buildings totaling $ 3.2 million.

One of these buildings, on Saint-Laurent Boulevard in Little Italy, now houses a branch of the Société des alcools du Québec (SAQ).

According to the Register of Personal and Movable Real Rights (RPMRR), Alain Cormier also donated $ 100,000 to Ms. Gaudreault, who allowed her to acquire a house in Laval, which she is still owner. The residence, paid $ 340,000 in 2001, is now valued at nearly $ 1 million.

According to Otéra's code of ethics, employees like Ms. Gaudreault must be very cautious. They must ask themselves if their actions and decisions will "withstand the closest public scrutiny", and whether they could "cause a negative perception in [their] place or place of Otéra".

They must finally ensure that they do not participate, directly or indirectly, in important financial activities that could compete with those of Otéra.

Donald Riendeau, Ethics Specialist and Director of the Institute of Trust in Organizations, considers these facts "extremely worrying".

"Ms. Gaudreault occupies extremely important functions. It raises important questions about conflicts of interest and the protection of savers' assets, "he says.

"I do not have to talk to you as a journalist," said Martine Gaudreault yesterday, attached to the phone.

The Vice President said she did not know "absolutely" Gary Iacobaccio.

"I have nothing to say," she repeated three times before ending the conversation.

His spouse Alain Cormier stated that Martine Gaudreault was not aware of her business ties.

For its part, the spokesman of Otéra, Melanie Charbonneau, said yesterday that the organization was carrying out checks.

In April 2008, the numbered companies of Alain Cormier, Leonardo Rizzuto and Giovanna Cammalleri became shareholders of another numbered company, 9188-5863 Québec inc.

In November 2007, 9188-5863 Québec inc. had bought land for a residential complex in LaSalle, for $ 1 million. Alain Cormier was one of the guarantors of the loan that allowed the purchase of the land.

HE CLAIMS THAT HIS WIFE DID NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT
The lender Alain Cormier assures that his wife Martine Gaudreault, vice-president of a subsidiary of the Caisse de dépôt, did not know anything about her business ties with individuals linked to organized crime, before our Investigation Office did not know her. contact about it.

"My girlfriend knows nothing about that," he said when we joined him yesterday morning.

"My spouse manages her life, I manage my life! That I made funding ten years ago ... It's the most honest person, the straightest person I know in my life. You know what you are going to do. You're going to mess up everything, "he said.

Here is what he had to say about:

His business connections with mafia-related or criminal-sentenced individuals:

"I have nothing to do with this milieu: I am a financier, I lend money, I do real estate."

His involvement in a condo project in the LaSalle borough, where he jointly invested with a company controlled by the Rizzuto family:

"I may have done some funding, but not done, uh ... and never with the Rizzuto family! You mix a lot of things, sir. "

A little later, he explained to know Leonardo Rizzuto, because the latter is a customer of the family jewelery. "I met him there, yes."

His involvement in the 1000 of the Commune, from 2009:

"I was in the project two days. I wanted to buy the project; finally, it did not work and I left the company. "

(In fact, the Québec Business Register indicates that it still signed documents for the company in 2010.)

The steps of our Investigation Office:

"You're just going to make big crap. "

Mr. Cormier promised yesterday morning to answer our questions in detail when he would have access to his documents, but he did not finally call back.

In January 2009, Alain Cormier and Ricardo Magi (brother of Tony Magi) are shareholders and administrators of the firm Les Développements Harbourteam, promoter of 1000 de la Commune.

Cormier will be stationed at least until August 2010, according to public records.

The Commune 1000 project was initiated by Tony Magi, shot dead on January 24th.

The former godfather Vito Rizzuto had acted in the shadows as conductor of the construction of this luxury condo complex near the Old Port of Montreal.

Rizzuto was rewarded by receiving five condos for the modest sum of $ 1, which he then sold for $ 1.7 million.

"It's still a good profit," investigator Éric Vecchio quipped during a testimony to the Charbonneau commission in March 2014.

In February 2011, a real estate company of Alain Cormier borrows $ 150,000 from Samprêt plus inc., A firm owned by Samy Bitton.

Cormier is using this money to buy a single-family home in Laval.

Bitton is well known to the police. In January 2016, he was sentenced to 18 months in prison in Tel Aviv for money laundering related to drug trafficking.

On the phone, Cormier also told us that he was a broker in the sale to Samy Bitton of the construction rights that were used for the 5th wharf project.

This condo project in Old Montreal was abandoned after Mr. Bitton's imprisonment in Israel.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/05/19 11:38 PM

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...-54-month-prison-term-for-drug-smuggling

Beaconsfield resident gets 54-month prison term for drug smuggling
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/06/19 12:06 AM

In relation to Ciment's post two posts back.

Caisse suspends subsidiary vice-president over alleged ties of spouse with Mafia

https://o.canada.com/pmn/business-p...-over-alleged-ties-of-spouse-with-mafia/
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/06/19 01:58 PM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...r-un-tenor-du-crime-et-ses-complices.php

Louis Nagy, who has been on the radar of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) a few times over the years, was sentenced to four years and eight months of penitentiary yesterday.

Two of his accomplices, Robert Bryant and Marco Milan, received sentences of three years and eight months for the first and two and a half years for the second. A fourth accomplice, Dean Copkov, a movie stuntman, was murdered in a context of theft that went wrong in Ontario the day before the pleading. In his case, the prosecution filed a stay of proceedings.

Nagy, Bryant, Milan and Copkov were arrested in 2013 by the RCMP after an investigation called "Unmarried" by which the federal police fanned two plots to import tons of hashish and cocaine. However, they were conspiracies, no drugs were seized.

After a jury trial, Bryant and Milan were found guilty of importing hashish and cocaine, while Nagy and Copkov were convicted of the only hashish import conspiracy .

Louis Nagy, 59, is well known to the police, especially the RCMP. In the early 2000s, he and a score of other individuals had been arrested and charged after a spectacular investigation called Chevalin in which the federal police had carried out about fifty searches and seized in particular more than 4000 kilograms hashish and prohibited weapons. Nagy had been sentenced to eight years as a penitentiary in this case.

Louis Nagy is close to the boss Raynald Desjardins, who is currently being held for plotting the murder of aspiring sponsor Salvatore Montagna, who was killed in November 2011.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/08/19 05:32 PM

Vincent Chiara, director of a major cannabis company and owner of the CBC tower, wants to sue people who associate him with the Rizzutos

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...uivre-les-usagers-dun-forum-boursier.php
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/11/19 04:07 PM

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/rcmp-money-laundering-1.5013912

RCMP break up alleged money-laundering ring in Montreal, Toronto
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/11/19 04:12 PM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...international-de-blanchiment-dargent.php

he Royal Canadian Mounted Police has been dismantling an important money laundering network based in Toronto and Montreal since 6:00 am, with links to other countries.

More than 300 police officers from the RCMP's Division C Crime Products Division (Quebec), the RCMP in Ontario, Laval, Montreal and Toronto are participating in the operation.

A total of 19 individuals are targeted, 12 in the Montreal area and seven in the Toronto area, where the suspected leaders of the network were located. Eleven searches are planned.

According to our sources, this is a money-laundering network that offers turnkey services to drug traffickers, and has connections with several countries, including Iran, Lebanon and the United Arab Emirates. .

According to information that has not been confirmed, the suspects reportedly used at least one exchange office in the Toronto area.

Investigation of more than two years

The collector investigation began more than two years ago. During the investigation, between May 2016 and August 2018, the police found large quantities of cannabis, cocaine, hashish and methamphetamine that were not specified. They also seized more than 1.7 million in Canadian money and various currencies.

The Canada Revenue Agency is involved in the file and we are talking about blocking buildings worth more than $ 15 million.

Suspects arrested in Toronto will be transported to Montreal aboard an RCMP-owned aircraft. All suspects are scheduled to appear tomorrow at the Montreal Courthouse.

The RCMP will explain its investigation tomorrow at a press conference at 10:00 am at C Division Headquarters on Dorchester Street in Montreal.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/11/19 04:41 PM

^^^^
Two people arrested in Toronto have already arrived in Quebec.

Link to tweet by GRC Québec / Quebec RCMP (two photos accompany the tweet):

https://twitter.com/grcqc/status/1094991452671787009
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/11/19 07:00 PM

Attempted murder in Laval: the crime could be related to narcotics

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-pourrait-etre-relie-aux-stupefiants.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/11/19 08:15 PM

Excerpt a bit farther below is from the article to which I've linked immediately below.

The El Chapo jury is re-examining testimony from three key narcos. Here's what they told the court
https://nationalpost.com/news/world...ey-narcos-heres-what-they-told-the-court

Transcripts obtained by the National Post show Alex outlining another Canadian relationship — an agreement for cocaine, heroin and crystal meth deals with “Tony Suzuki.” This is believed to be Antonio Pietrantonio of the Montreal mafia.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/11/19 09:53 PM

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...oney-laundering-ring-in-montreal-toronto

Drugs and cash seized in RCMP raids in Montreal and Toronto
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/12/19 01:38 PM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Attempted murder in Laval: the crime could be related to narcotics

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-pourrait-etre-relie-aux-stupefiants.php


The 35-year-old victim died in the hospital. The file was transferred to the Sûreté du Québec.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/13/19 12:46 AM

Originally Posted by Ciment
https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...oney-laundering-ring-in-montreal-toronto

Drugs and cash seized in RCMP raids in Montreal and Toronto


There are 33 good photos, slides, and charts to be found at https://www.flickr.com/photos/grc-rcmp-quebec/. Some examples are below.

[Linked Image]Projet_Collecteur_Project.indd by GRC/RCMP, on Flickr

[Linked Image]Projet_Collecteur_Project.indd by GRC/RCMP, on Flickr
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/14/19 12:21 PM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2019/02/14/quatre-condos-payes-cash-en-une-seule-annee

Four paid cash condos in one year
The Quebec leader of the network dismantled Monday by the RCMP could lose everything

The Lavallois at the head of the network that laundered the millions of dollars of organized crime in Quebec has had no trouble to afford four condos in one year, he paid cash.

However, Mohamad Jaber is now in jail since the RCMP's Collector operation on Monday, and the federal treasury could inherit the many properties he acquired when he was clearing money from drug traffickers.

Jaber, 51, is charged with tax evasion, gangsterism, money laundering, conspiracy and money laundering.

He and Nader Gramian-Nik - the Ontario network leader who got his $ 7-million "castle" near Toronto - "failed to report multi-million dollar revenues between 2013 and 2017," according to the Director of Criminal Investigations of the Canada Revenue Agency, Stéphane Bonin.

To ensure that Jaber gets what he owes, the IRS obtained court blocking orders from six condos owned by Jaber.

More than $ 3 million

This includes the four that he bought cash in 2015 in Laval, Montreal and Mont-Tremblant, as well as a house and another condo acquired in 2017, according to court documents and notarial deeds that Le Journal consulted.

The present value of these six properties exceeds $ 3 million.


In May 2015, Jaber purchased the $ 1.1 million condo he owned when he was arrested on Avenue Jean-Béraud in Laval. Seven months later, he got his hands on a nearby condo for $ 740,000.

That year, he also bought one for $ 411,900 in Côte-Saint-Paul, Montreal, and another $ 215,000 in Mont-Tremblant.

He lodged his lieutenant

He also owns a house on Laval's Fafard Street, which served as home to his alleged right hand man and number two in the dismantled network's Quebec cell, Kamel Ghaddar, also accused in this case.

If Jaber is unable to pay his tax debt, the federal agency will then ask the courts to confiscate the foreclosed property for his benefit.

He remains the owner of the six condos pending further legal proceedings. But he is forbidden to sell them and he must "keep them in good condition" to "save their value," according to the ordinances.

THE ADDRESSES OF HIS RESIDENCES
1050 Drummond , Montreal (paid $ 404,597 in 2017)
5077 Paré , Montreal (paid $ 471,181 in 2015)
3635 Jean-Béraud , Laval (paid $ 1,160,000 in 2015)
3635 Jean-Béraud , Laval (paid $ 740,000 in 2015)
2879 Village Road , Mont-Tremblant (paid $ 215,000 in 2015)
4330 Fafard , Laval (paid $ 180,000 in 2004)
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/14/19 12:58 PM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...a-la-mafia-atteint-par-balle-a-laval.php

Cocaine importer linked to mafia shot in Laval

The victim of last night's murder attempt in Laval is Ray Kahno, an importer of cocaine arrested and sentenced in the wake of the Colisée Anti-Mafia investigation in 2006, La Presse learned .

Kahno, 42, is in critical condition in the hospital.

"We received a call around 11:48 pm for a man lying on the ground near his car, at the corner of Pothier and Edinburgh streets, in the Vimont district. When the police arrived, the man was semi-conscious. The paramedics transported him to the hospital, but it was there that we realized that he had been shot, "said police officer Stephanie Beshara of Laval.

Ray Khano, in 2006 .... (Photo Alain Roberge, La Presse archives) - image 2.0
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Ray Khano, in 2006.

PHOTO ALAIN ROBERGE, LA PRESSE ARCHIVES

The spokeswoman did not want to confirm the identity of the victim saying "she was known to the police." But according to our sources, it is Ray Khano who would have been hit by at least one bullet in the head.

Cocaine in PET

Following the Royal Canadian Mounted Police Coliseum survey in November 2006, Kahno was sentenced to eight years and two months of penitentiary for import and conspiracy for possession of cocaine for the purpose of smuggling. He and a partner, Giuseppe Torre, were responsible for the Montreal Mafia's cocaine imports from Montréal-Trudeau Airport, including bribing customs officers.

During the Coliseum investigation, Kahno found himself in the hot water when Mafia bosses based at the Consenza Social Club realized that 100 kg of cocaine had been unknowingly imported into a cargo of 218 kilograms seized at the time. Trudeau Airport in January 2005. Later, however, he denied his involvement in this case and indicated that he had no debt as a result of this case.

To add to their evidence against him during the Coliseum investigation, the investigators stole $ 3 million from family members and disguised the crime as a break and enter. This surreptitious operation angered Kahno, who suspected a family member and asked an accomplice to bring a weapon. The police, who were listening to Kahno, then found a pretext to intercept the two men near the RCMP headquarters in Westmount and arrest them.

Kahno was automatically released at two-thirds of his sentence in March 2015, but on at least two occasions his parole was suspended, including because he had ended up with an individual linked to organized crime and having a history of narcotics.

In front of the parole board, Kahno said he was working with the mafia, but was not part of it, and thought he would retire from the crime before being arrested in November 2006.

Two events in three days

This is the 2 th time in three days that an individual is suffering gunshot in Laval. On Monday morning at around 4:00 am, a 33-year-old man, Eliott Blanchard, was found injured near a vehicle in a municipal parking lot on Avenue du Havre-des-ÃŽles in the Chomedey neighborhood. He died in the hospital several hours later.

Blanchard had a history of narcotics and the police do not exclude that it is the motive of the crime. The investigation was transferred to the Sûreté du Québec because of possible links with organized crime.

It is too early to determine if the two events are related. For the moment, there is no indication that this is the case, but investigators should still consider this possibility.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/14/19 02:46 PM

Wow Ray is a high profile guy,.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/14/19 06:43 PM

Related to Ciment's post (two posts back).

Man, 42, in critical condition after being shot in Laval's Vimont neighbourhood

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/laval-shooting-1.5018998
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/14/19 07:16 PM

^^^^
Ray Kahno has died in hospital.

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...tateur-de-cocaine-ray-kahno-est-mort.php
Posted By: JoeTadaro

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/14/19 07:40 PM

Can someone fill me in on who ray kahno is and who was he affiliated with and also who may have wanted him dead lol thanks
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/14/19 09:24 PM

Originally Posted by JoeTadaro
Can someone fill me in on who ray kahno is and who was he affiliated with and also who may have wanted him dead lol thanks


He his a drug trafficker affiliated with the Rizzuto's. He belonged to the Francesco Arcadi cell.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/14/19 11:11 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment
Originally Posted by JoeTadaro
Can someone fill me in on who ray kahno is and who was he affiliated with and also who may have wanted him dead lol thanks


He his a drug trafficker affiliated with the Rizzuto's. He belonged to the Francesco Arcadi cell.




Also worked with Ponytail De Vito.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/14/19 11:34 PM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Originally Posted by Ciment
Originally Posted by JoeTadaro
Can someone fill me in on who ray kahno is and who was he affiliated with and also who may have wanted him dead lol thanks


He his a drug trafficker affiliated with the Rizzuto's. He belonged to the Francesco Arcadi cell.




Also worked with Ponytail De Vito.


De Vito was also part of the Arcadi cell until he broke off and started his own faction.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/14/19 11:51 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia


Cocaine smuggler with ties to the Mafia shot dead in Laval https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...ssault-leaves-man-in-critical-condition/
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/15/19 02:06 AM



The following powerpoint has names and pictures of the Arcadi cell and yes some defected but not all.

https://www.ceic.gouv.qc.ca/fileadmin/Fichiers_client/centre_documentaire/Piece_11P-126.pdf
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/15/19 02:24 AM

Very cool powerpoint Ciment, thank you for sharing.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/15/19 12:20 PM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2019/02/15/il-a-fait-perdre-des-millions-a-la-mafia

He lost millions for the Mafia

An importer of coke, held responsible by the mafia for the closing of one of its drug entry doors at the Montreal airport, was shot dead in the street in Laval, in what looks like a settlement of accounts.

Just before midnight on Wednesday, 42-year-old Ray Kanho was hit by at least one bullet in the head when he was a few meters away from his vehicle, at the corner of Potier and Edinburgh streets in the city. Vimont district.

In all likelihood, he tried to flee his assailant before being hit and collapsing. His death was confirmed at the hospital a few hours later.

Kanho had trouble with the Rizzuto clan, especially with Giuseppe De Vito 14 years ago, because of a cocaine import that had gone wrong.

Historical entry


On January 22, 2005, the Canada Border Services Agency discovered 218 kg of drugs, valued at $ 27 million, hidden in two baggage containers on a flight from Port-au-Prince, Haiti.

In telephone conversations intercepted during the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) Colisée investigation, Kanho told one of his associates that De Vito held him responsible for the failure of the operation.

He reportedly threatened to liquidate him if he did not quickly pay up to $ 1 million in "taxes" to the criminal organization.


It's because, in the eyes of the boss, the importer and his acolytes, Giuseppe Torre and Frank Faustini, had "burned his front door" at the Montreal airport by trying to bring in more coke than what had been allowed.

Personal profit

Not to mention that the extra 98 kg were for their own profit, an affront to De Vito, died poisoned in prison in 2013. The leaders of the mafia had also discovered the pot with the roses on one of the Journal.

The trio had made at least three more illegal imports under the nose of the Sicilian clan, but which were known to De Vito, before being pinched.

The Laval resident would have "settled" his penalty for a few hundred thousand dollars, in order to continue working with them and calm tensions.

Another failure

Almost a year to the day, after this fiasco, another cocaine delivery plot with Kanho at his head was foiled by the agents, revealing court documents.

The 38 kg of drugs had been concealed in metal containers carrying the meal trays of an airplane bound for Montreal from Venezuela, this time.
Arrested in November 2006, he was sentenced to 14 years of penitentiary after his trial in 2009. He was free as the air since December 2017.

One month before his arrest, the RCMP "stole" more than $ 2.8 million in cash from his parents' home to advance the Colisée investigation. This money belonged mainly to his partner Torre and to Francesco Del Balso, one of the lieutenants of the Rizzuto family.

According to our sources, Ray Kanho was still active in the underworld.

This attack comes just days after the murder of another narcotics trafficker linked to organized crime. Eliott Blanchard, 35, was shot in similar circumstances early Monday morning in a public parking lot on Havre-des-Iles Street, still in Laval.

He had been arrested in 2013 in another record seizure of narcotics; this time it was the equivalent of two million methamphetamine tablets.

It is the Sûreté du Québec's investigators of crimes against the person who must now shed light on these unrelated cases.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/15/19 03:19 PM


The hitman wanted for murdering the nephew of a former Montreal mafia boss two weeks ago in Ontario may well be a Quebecker.
This is the hypothesis envisaged by the Hamilton police, who has just released images of the gunman suspected of the murder of Cece Luppino, hoping that the public will be able to identify him and help stop him.
"It is certainly in the realm of possibility that the suspect lives in Quebec. This is one of the avenues we are exploring, "confirmed Detective Sergeant Peter Thom, who conducts three homicide investigations in Hamilton with a potential Quebec connection.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/15/19 03:21 PM

Cece Luppino, 43, was shot dead at his home in the middle of the afternoon of 30 January. Surveillance cameras from his home filmed the man who killed him.
We can see the suspect approaching the house with his right hand inside his coat, presumably holding a firearm.

Luppino worked in the real estate field and did not have a criminal record. His grandfather Giacomo and his father Rocco, however, were notorious Mafiosi in the 'Ndrangheta, the Calabrian mafia, present in Ontario.

He was also the nephew of Paolo Violi, the last sponsor of the Montreal Mafia who was shot dead on January 22, 1978, near the Reggio Bar in Saint-Léonard.
The end of Calabria
The murder of Violi - who succeeded Vic Cotroni, jailed for contempt of court after his testimony at the Commission of Inquiry into Organized Crime (CECO) - ended the reign of the Calabrians at the head of the Italian mafia, for the benefit of the Rizzuto clan.
In 2018, the brothers Domenico and Giuseppe Violi, cousins ​​of Cece Luppino, were sentenced to long prison terms for being involved in a trafficking network of cocaine and fentanyl.
The murder of Luppino is the third in two years to be linked to the mafia in Hamilton. The police wonder if these killings are all part of a power struggle in which organized crime in Quebec could be involved.
On May 2, 2017, suspects aboard a car registered in Quebec murdered Angelo Musitano, whose family was an ally of the Rizzuto clan.
Then, September 6, 2018, it was the turn of another Mafioso, Albert Iavarone, to undergo the same fate.
Antonio's brother Antonio (Tony) Iavarone did not fail to draw the attention of the police on December 1, since he was one of 270 guests at the sumptuous wedding of influential Hells Angel Martin Robert in downtown Montreal.

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2019/02/15/qui-est-ce-tireur-recherche--en-ontario-et-au-quebec
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/17/19 11:28 PM

The Italian Direzione Investigativa Antimafia (DIA) reports on the Italian-Canadian Mafia.

http://comunicalo.it/2019/02/13/mafia-italo-canadese-dia-il-clan-rizzuto-meno-influente/
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/18/19 01:43 AM

The link doesn't work....
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/18/19 03:36 AM

Originally Posted by CabriniGreen
The link doesn't work....


Italian-Canadian Mafia, Dia: "The less influential Rizzuto clan"
February 13, 2019

"In Canada, the Sicilian mafia is, among those of Italian origin, the most dating back in time, being well established in the provinces of Quebec, Ontario and British Columbia where, for some time now, Italian immigrant communities have settled permanently. In Quebec, the Sicilian mafia will flank the 'Calabrian ndrangheta, making the province, with its capital Montreal, the hub of organized crime of Italian origin in Canada. As for the Sicilian families, the RIZZUTO, originating from Cattolica Eraclea (AG) and the CUNTRERA CARUANA, originally from Siculiana (AG), moved to Canada in the 50s, have imposed their hegemony in the Canadian criminal scenario since the years 80, operating in drug trafficking and recycling activities ".This was written by the Anti-Mafia Investigation Department in the Report on the activities of the first half of 2018 delivered to Parliament.

"Due to major arrests by the Canadian police, the RIZZUTO would have seen their influence diminished. A progressive weakening also accentuated by a "mafia war" that led, between 2009 and 2010, to a series of murders of subjects of criminal thickness within the team. To this state of affairs was added, more recently, an internal struggle for supremacy fomented by emerging elements, who would like to supplant the old representatives of the mafia association, many of whom died. Last but not least, the pressure exerted by other organizations for the control of the territory, in particular the 'Ndrangheta, which would be replacing the Sicilian rivals in the control of trafficking and drug dealing, would have contributed to this downsizing. At the same time, the 'Ndrangheta would be equally active in the recycling and redeployment of illicit capital.

The cosche would have adopted, also in Canada, a propagation strategy focused on the reproduction of criminal structures similar to those of the areas of origin.In fact, the Canadian premises would ensure the Calabrian gangs, functional support for the laundering of illicit proceeds and drug trafficking. The loads of cocaine produced in Colombia would transit through Venezuela, for the subsequent passage to the USA and Canada. Over time, the presence of members of the AQUINO-COLUCCIO-SCALI, PAPALIA, SERGI, MORABITO, ALVARO, AGOSTINO, IERINÃ’, but above all the COMMISSO, which would be at the top of the so-called "Siderno group", has historically been recorded, historically in contrast to the COSTA. Everyone would be particularly active in drug trafficking and money laundering in financial, commercial and real estate assets.

On the front of the contrast, of particular importance was the action carried out, in recent years, by Italian and Canadian investigative apparatuses.On 8 March 2011, as part of the "Crime 2" operation, the State Police and the Arma dei Carabinieri arrested 41 subjects by mafia-type association. The investigation, continued the note "Crime" of 2010, has revealed, among other things, the operation of two gangs: one in Thunder Bay and the other in Toronto, respectively linked to the clans of Gioiosa Ionica and Marina di Joyful Ionian. In June 2015, in Ontario, the local police arrested 19 subjects held responsible for extensive drug and arms trafficking, extortion and money laundering, some of which were linked to the 'ndrangheta reggina. The following September, as part of the aforementioned operation '' Acero Connection-Krupy ", concerning a vast international drug trafficking, the State Police and the Arma dei Carabinieri have shed light on the economic-criminal interests and on the foreign branches of the gangs, which spread from Siderno to the Netherlands and Canada. Also the operation "Typograph - Acero bis", concluded in March 2016 by the Arma dei Carabinieri and the Guardia di Finanza, has shed light on the projections in Piedmont of Cosche di Gioiosa Ionica, Grotteria and Marina di Gioiosa Ionica, also on the offshoots in Canada and the USA.

A common factor, the operations described above show a presence of the 'ndrangheta certainly functional to the large trafficking of drugs, but that also allowed the absconding of criminals of thickness. During the half-year under review, on March 22, 2018 an exponent of the cosca COMMISSO of Siderno (RC) was arrested, at the airport of Fiumicino (RM), after being extradited from Canada, where he had been stopped a few days before violation of the immigration law. The man was wanted since 2010, as the recipient of an order for custody in prison issued by the GIP Reggio Calabria, by mafia-type association and fictitious heading of assets as part of the "Recovery - Common Good" operation. the fact that after joining Canada, using a dense network of logistical support, the fugitive lived permanently in the Greater Toronto Area, using false generality to prevent his identification. Finally, in the country several bands of Hells Angels are active,
Posted By: m2w

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/18/19 07:59 PM

there is not any proof the ndrangheta is involved in montreal war and even in ontario war, it's mostly a sicilian mafia and lcn thing, although they say ndrangheta is involved
all the calabrians involved are not even members of ndrangheta but lcn (buffalo or bonanno), except carmine verduci, that's the only one can be an hit internal to ndrangheta
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/19/19 02:22 PM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...ux-qui-etait-vise-temoigne-par-ecrit.php

Murder at the Hillside café: the mafioso who was targeted testifies in writing.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/21/19 01:13 AM

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...r-in-the-west-island-a-botched-mafia-hit

Was attempted murder in the West Island a botched Mafia hit?
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/22/19 07:46 PM

Originally Posted by m2w
there is not any proof the ndrangheta is involved in montreal war and even in ontario war, it's mostly a sicilian mafia and lcn thing, although they say ndrangheta is involved
all the calabrians involved are not even members of ndrangheta but lcn (buffalo or bonanno), except carmine verduci, that's the only one can be an hit internal to ndrangheta


Ties are not clear-cut Nicolo Rizzuto was very close to Rocco Zito, Frank Arcadi to Carmelo Bruzzese.
Posted By: m2w

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/22/19 09:14 PM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Originally Posted by m2w
there is not any proof the ndrangheta is involved in montreal war and even in ontario war, it's mostly a sicilian mafia and lcn thing, although they say ndrangheta is involved
all the calabrians involved are not even members of ndrangheta but lcn (buffalo or bonanno), except carmine verduci, that's the only one can be an hit internal to ndrangheta


Ties are not clear-cut Nicolo Rizzuto was very close to Rocco Zito, Frank Arcadi to Carmelo Bruzzese.


and the caruana-cuntrera to the coluccio's, of course lcn and sicilian mafia has links to ndrangheta in canada but it doesn't mean ndrangheta is involved
so far, and withouth any evident proof that is not just speculation, the canadian mafia war both in montreal and ontario is a lcn thing (bonanno/buffalo) and sicilian mafia
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/23/19 01:00 PM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...tueur-a-gages-frederick-silva-arrete.php

The alleged hitman Frederick Silva arrested

The alleged hitman Frederick Silva was arrested by the SPVM's tactical intervention group (GTI) at around 1 am that night in Montreal after a year and nine months on the run.

According to our sources, he was arrested in or near a building on Duke Street, near de la Commune Street. The police had known for some time that Silva was hiding in downtown Montreal.

Silva is already accused of killing a client at a Montreal dance club in May 2017 and attempting to assassinate mafia cleric Salvatore Scoppa in Terrebonne in February 2017.

He is also suspected of having committed at least a dozen other crimes, including the murder of former Rocker Sebastien Beauchamp in Montreal last December.

Silva was on the list of the ten most wanted criminals in Quebec and was a priority of the SPVM. He had been the subject of a joint investigation of Major Crimes and the Organized Crime Division since before Christmas.

The police had almost stopped Silva a few times in a year and nine months. He was taken to a police station for interrogation. We do not know yet when he will appear.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/23/19 01:41 PM

Good job, let´s see if he flips.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/23/19 02:53 PM


Update: On the Arrest of alleged hitman Frederick Silva: La Presse has just learned that an alleged accomplice was arrested this morning and that a search is underway in Terrebonne.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/23/19 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Good job, let´s see if he flips.


Yes, if he flips a lot of heads are going to roll.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/23/19 03:08 PM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...ges-frederick-silva-arrete-par-la-police

One of the most wanted criminals in Quebec arrested in Montreal

A dangerous individual wanted under a pan-Canadian arrest warrant, Frédérick Silva, was eventually arrested by the Montreal police.

The individual was one of the 10 most wanted criminals in Quebec. He was arrested around 1:00 am by the tactical intervention group (GTI) of the Police Department of the City of Montreal (SPVM), we learned.

Detained, he was to be interrogated by the investigators. He should appear Saturday afternoon.

The Montreal police have been on the heels of this man since 2017 who is considered as armed and dangerous, notably suspected of having committed a murder in Montreal and attempting to murder a mafia individual in Lachenaie, in the North Shore.

Silva and 10 of his friends had appeared in February of this year in a restaurant, where was Salvatore Scoppa, 47, a major player in the Montreal mafia. He then opened fire several times towards Scoppa, hitting him twice.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/23/19 03:36 PM

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...st-sought-fugitives-arrested-in-montreal

One of Quebec's most sought fugitives arrested in Montreal
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/23/19 05:06 PM

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/mont...n-on-quebec-s-most-wanted-list-1.5031191

Montreal police arrest man on Quebec's most wanted list
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/23/19 07:39 PM

Ce dépanneur ne veut pas mourir

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2019/02/23/ce-depanneur-ne-veut-pas-mourir
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/23/19 08:20 PM


Frédérick Silva has been charged with two counts of murder, one count of attempted murder and one count of possession of a weapon.

He will plead not guilty.

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Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/23/19 08:21 PM

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He looks a little different than his mugshot circulated by police. His hair is past his ears and he has a beard.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/23/19 09:14 PM

He won't flip. He'll serve his 15 and come home
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/24/19 01:13 AM


If they could connect him to the other 7 murders he could be locked up for the rest of his life.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/24/19 01:52 AM

He´s a loose cannon shooting some guy in the head after a bar fight over a girl.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/24/19 11:45 AM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...mme-soupconne-detre-un-tueur-a-gages.php

The time of choice for a man suspected of being a hitman

His name, for the moment at least, does not strike the imagination like those of Réal Simard, Donald Lavoie, Gerald Gallant or Yves Trudeau, but Frederick Silva, apprehended in the night from Friday to yesterday in the street Duke, in the center Montreal City is perhaps another hitman to be put in the same category.

With one difference - it is big and could have a major impact in the Montreal and Quebec organized crime scene over the next few months: unlike the other hit men in Quebec, Silva would not have worked exclusively for one. camp, he would have been "contractual" for several criminal organizations. In fact, it is probably a product of the current organized crime, where all criminal groups are mixed and work hand in hand.

The predator become prey

"Silva was a predator outside. Now that he has been arrested, he is a prey, "a police source told La Presse .

Silva is officially charged with two murders and an attempted murder against a mafia clan leader. But he would be suspected of having committed a dozen others, many even while he was on the run.

Most of the victims were related to criminal organizations and the first natural question is: how will organized crime deal with Silva? Will anyone suspected of being a hitman be supported or not by those who would have been his sponsor?

And how will senior leaders of the various organized crime cells who would have used Silva's services react to those who would have contracted directly?

It is still too early to answer these questions, but one thing is certain, the arrest of Silva is likely to have an impact within organized crime.

The predator is no longer there. People who had reason to fear him will no longer fear him. On the contrary, those who had it in their pocket no longer have it. The wind could turn. Reactions to killings and attempted murder in recent months and years may occur, and settlements could occur. Already, they are a little more numerous in organized crime in recent months, after a relative lull.

"The structure of organized crime has been shaken since yesterday. Organizations are weakened while others feel safer. "

- A police source, in La Presse

Game on the table

Captured, Silva is a prey. Could he be tempted to collaborate with the police and sit down to table, as a consecrated expression requires?

Police believe he is not the type to do it. But what do Simard, Lavoie, Trudeau and Gallant have in common? They all collaborated with the police for one reason or another, not least because they did not feel supported by their "employing organization", and they only had one.

It is certain that the police will put Silva in front of a choice and will try to make him return his jacket. The investigators of major crimes will put all their rigor and those of organized crime, all their knowledge. His arrest is an example of the effectiveness of homicide investigators, organized crime, intelligence, and members of the spinning and tactical intervention groups, when pooling their resources. They will continue in order to elucidate as many crimes as possible for which Silva is suspected.
Posted By: JoeTadaro

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/25/19 11:36 AM

No way in hell this guy flips
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/25/19 09:45 PM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...uitte-de-possession-darmes-et-de-cocaine

Montreal Mafia: Leonardo Rizzuto acquitted of possession of weapons and cocaine
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/25/19 09:49 PM

https://montrealgazette.com/news/ju...acquits-alleged-mobster-leonardo-rizzuto

Judge rules rights violated, acquits alleged mobster Leonardo Rizzuto
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/27/19 09:47 AM

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...three-organized-crime-hits-in-st-leonard

Charges filed in cases of three organized crime hits in St-Léonard
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/27/19 01:02 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment
https://montrealgazette.com/news/ju...acquits-alleged-mobster-leonardo-rizzuto

Judge rules rights violated, acquits alleged mobster Leonardo Rizzuto


I knew that one was coming. Will be interesting now that Rizzuto has nothing to worry about now and see if things get back into gear with the killings and power plays with the coke and what not.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/27/19 02:22 PM


I agree with you there will be more power plays. It looks like a never ending saga.
Posted By: mike68

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/27/19 05:23 PM

If I'm Rizzuto, I would GTFO. Announce you are retiring. It's a death wish if he continues. While that family has caused a lot of suffering and pain, a grandfather, father, and son should be enough.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/28/19 01:18 AM

He was probably more safe in prison, Stefano is the boss but Leonardo is his advisor.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/28/19 11:49 AM

A hitman refuses to become an informer and empty his bag

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2019/02/27/un-tueur-a-gages-pas-interesse-a-devenir-delateur
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/28/19 01:40 PM

Originally Posted by mike68
If I'm Rizzuto, I would GTFO. Announce you are retiring. It's a death wish if he continues. While that family has caused a lot of suffering and pain, a grandfather, father, and son should be enough.


Why would he run? Him and Stefano are the powers to be in Montreal. With that comes big money. It wasn't like Leonardo was some innocent dude who had never been involved with his father. Why would you bring Vito up when talking about the suffering? They had it made under Vito and he didn't get killed by anyone.

Originally Posted by Hollander
A hitman refuses to become an informer and empty his bag


I could have saved them a lot of time lol
Posted By: JC

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/28/19 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by dixiemafia
Originally Posted by mike68
If I'm Rizzuto, I would GTFO. Announce you are retiring. It's a death wish if he continues. While that family has caused a lot of suffering and pain, a grandfather, father, and son should be enough.


Why would he run? Him and Stefano are the powers to be in Montreal. With that comes big money. It wasn't like Leonardo was some innocent dude who had never been involved with his father. Why would you bring Vito up when talking about the suffering? They had it made under Vito and he didn't get killed by anyone.

Originally Posted by Hollander
A hitman refuses to become an informer and empty his bag


I could have saved them a lot of time lol


Yes, Vito was such a power that he couldn't keep his son, his father and his brother-in-law from getting killed. What a success story. You're the man, you are just so plugged in down there in Bama, what other words of hick wisdom do you have to share?
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/28/19 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by JC
Yes, Vito was such a power that he couldn't keep his son, his father and his brother-in-law from getting killed. What a success story. You're the man, you are just so plugged in down there in Bama, what other words of hick wisdom do you have to share?


Here come the dumbasses!

Never said I was plugged in you dipshit, but it's painfully obvious Silva wasn't going to roll over. Is that enough "hick wisdom" for your dumbass?
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/28/19 02:18 PM

And do you have anything to add other than you taking shots at about everyone in this thread? It's idiots like you that have destroyed this site
Posted By: JC

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/28/19 03:48 PM

Originally Posted by dixiemafia
And do you have anything to add other than you taking shots at about everyone in this thread? It's idiots like you that have destroyed this site


Stop being such a fan boy /wannabe and no one will bother you. Maybe you can get together with some of the Philly posters and you could show them your Rizzuto shrine and they can show you their Merlino shrine.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/28/19 05:32 PM

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...n-has-spent-much-of-his-life-behind-bars

Alleged Montreal hit man has spent much of his life behind bars
Posted By: MegaMikejr

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/01/19 11:32 PM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2019/01/26/dennemis-jures-a-partenaires-daffaires
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/02/19 03:40 AM

Link below is to French-language article (which some of you may not be even be able to open):

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...BtRdee2M2sOEbNoGFkvWQ-HRrdc1-F_f93eDiV5s

Translation (using Google Translate):

Laval mafioso claims $ 426,000 to the government.
He sued prison authorities for illegal detentions.

ÉRIC THIBAULT
Le Journal de Montréal
Friday, March 1, 2019 8:34 pm
UPDATE Friday, March 1, 2019 8:34 pm

Mafioso Francesco Del Balso claims nearly half a million dollars to the federal correctional service for "illegally" incarcerating him after the murders of two of his acolytes.

In his lawsuit filed Wednesday in Superior Court, Del Balso wants neither more nor less than a compensation of $ 4000 for each of the 94 days of "illegal detention" which he says he has served in 2016. He also claims $ 50,000 in " punitive damages "for a total of $ 426,000.

The 48-year-old Lavallois was one of the leaders of the Rizzuto clan pinned in Operation Colisée RCMP in 2006. He was sentenced to 15 years for cocaine trafficking and gangsterism.

His associates Lorenzo Giordano and Rocco Sollecito had also been sentenced to long sentences as a result of this investigation.

In February 2016, Del Balso was released on statutory release after serving two-thirds of his sentence, although under the responsibility of Correctional Service Canada (CSC) until the expiry of the sentence in September 2019.

For his security

The following month, Giordano, also on parole and then considered an aspiring mobster godfather, was shot dead in Laval.

CSC immediately suspended the release of Del Balso, who returned to the penitentiary. This decision was taken to ensure his safety.

However, "ensuring the protection of an offender on statutory release is not grounds for reincarceration" under the Corrections and Conditional Release Act, according to his lawyer. "The plaintiff had not violated any condition of his statutory release and was therefore legally entitled to remain at liberty," said Rita Magloé Francis in the lawsuit. Recognized for his fiery temper, the ex-strongman of the Rizzuto clan was able to leave the penitentiary in the spring.

But the scenario was repeated when Rocco Sollecito, a former partner of Del Balso in illegal betting and then acting head of the mafia, was riddled with bullets in turn, May 27, 2016 in Laval.

Del Balso had been taken back to prison, again for his own safety, as the authorities feared he would be "next on the list".

- His release was suspended on two other occasions, through his fault. Notably in October 2018 for his threats against a journalist from our Investigation Bureau, which earned him 30 days in prison. He has been free since January.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/06/19 12:35 PM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2019/03/06/un-pret-signe-pour-un-mafieux

A loan signed for the mafia.
Edmondo Marandola, economist at Otéra Capital, served as representative for the boss Giuseppe Focarazzo.

A senior member of the Caisse de depot represented a high-ranking mafia official in a private loan.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/06/19 12:58 PM

See Ciment's post immediately above -- he posted a link before I did below; different link but same article.

Link below is to French-language article about Giuseppe Focarazzo. Some of you might recall his name on a list of wedding guests who attended the wedding reception in Montreal last December for Hells Angel Martin Robert and Annie Arbic. Focarazzo was sitting at a table with Antonio Pietrantonio and other Italians in Quebec considered affiliated with the Montreal Mafia. At the same table was Tony Iavarone of Ontario, brother of the murdered Al Iavarone who was killed last September.

https://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2019/03/06/un-pret-signe-pour-un-mafieux-1

Translation (using Google Translate):

A loan signed for a mafia
By Hugo Joncas, Philippe Langlois, Andrea Valeria and Félix Séguin and Jean-François Cloutier
Published on March 6, 2019 at 4:23 am

A senior member of the Caisse de depot represented a high-ranking mafia official in a private loan while working for Quebecers' wool stockings, our Investigation Bureau discovered.

This frame is the economist Edmondo Marandola. It was he who was suspended on February 19 by the Caisse's real estate financing subsidiary, Otéra Capital, when he learned in Le Journal that he was running a real estate developer at the same time.

Our research on him continued. We discovered that even though he has been bankrupt since 2006, Edmondo Marandola continued to be involved in several financial transactions with businessmen.

Among them is Giuseppe Focarazzo, one of the leaders of Italian organized crime in Montreal.

Notarized loan

In March 2015, Edmondo Marandola signed for him a notarized loan of $ 110,000, according to the land register.

This loan was secured by the mock manor du Pegriot, an opulent residence in Mascouche, in the North Shore of Montreal, valued at nearly $ 700,000.

The money from this private loan went in part to the contractor responsible for the renovations on the Focarazzo house, but $ 5,000 also landed in the pockets of Edmondo Marandola, according to copies of checks that our office obtained. 'investigation.

The documents consulted do not explain why Mr. Marandola represented the Mafioso in this transaction.

The two men did not call back to answer our questions.

Other mafia links

Edmondo Marandola is the second executive of the Caisse de dépôt to be directly or indirectly related to the Montreal Mafia.

We asked Otéra Capital if Mr. Marandola had disclosed to his employer the transaction he had made in the name of Giuseppe Focarazzo.

Otéra's spokesperson, Mélanie Charbonneau, merely recalled that he was suspended for an independent investigation and that the results of this investigation would be made public.

Mr. Marandola is also in the sights of the Royal Bank. Two weeks ago, the financial institution seized its shares in a retirement home project, after learning in our pages about its involvement in the project.

The suspended framework owes more than half a million dollars to the Royal Bank. He is still not released from bankruptcy, which dates back to 2006.

Still the mafia

This is the second time in a month that a manager of Otéra Capital, a subsidiary of the Caisse de dépôt, is closely related to the mafia.

At the beginning of February, our Investigation Office revealed that Martine Gaudreault, Vice President of Otéra, is in a relationship with Alain Cormier, a private lender long associated with the Rizzuto clan.

Cormier notably held a company for four years with Leonardo Rizzuto, the son of the former godfather of the Montreal mafia Vito Rizzuto (now deceased). Giovanna Cammalleri, the wife of Vito Rizzuto, was also a shareholder in this firm.

Martine Gaudreault has been involved in three businesses with her spouse since 2012. He stated that Ms. Gaudreault was not aware of her business relationship.

The V.-P. of Otéra was suspended following our article.

At the head of a mafia group

Giuseppe "Joey Gator" 43-year-old Focarazzo is leading a small group of mafia gangs who are particularly well connected to the Hells Angels, according to police sources. He also attended the wedding full patch Martin Robert in downtown Montreal last October.

Since the Coliseum survey in the 2000s, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) considered him a money collector of the Rizzuto clan.

A photographer from QMI Agency also shot him at the funeral of mafioso Rocco Sollecito in June 2016.

In December 2017, one of Giuseppe Focarazzo's numbered companies sold a condo in Repentigny to Giovanna Camalleri, the widow of former godfather Vito Rizzuto.

The Focarazzo company had seized an individual who had not been able to repay his loan, granted 57% interest per year. This rate is a hair's breadth away from the 60% that the Criminal Code considers a usurious rate.

Under surveillance

"Joey Gator" has been on the radar of RCMP investigators since the mid-2000s.

On August 20, 2006, officers observed her at the Laennec bar in Laval, one of the mafia's main haunts at the time, according to an overview of the evidence presented in September 2012 to the Charbonneau commission on contracts in construction.

That day, Focarazzo came to find especially Francesco Del Balso, a high ranking heavily involved in the financial operations of the Rizzuto clan.

The police officers were able to observe them "handling handguns," according to the evidence.

"They discuss firearms types and caliber and seem to compare their weapons," the federal police wrote.

The criminal record of Giuseppe Focarazzo is still light. In July 2004, he was fined and sentenced to two years for extortion, death threats or injuries, and for being in a vehicle carrying a prohibited weapon.

- With the collaboration of Éric Thibault
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/06/19 01:26 PM

^^^^
Interesting tweet reply by Paul Manning re: Tony Iavarone:

https://twitter.com/mobinfiltrator/status/1103284706018091009

Paul Manning @mobinfiltrator

Replying to @CdnOrgC

Tony still off the map and missing, apparently.

8:22 AM - 6 Mar 2019
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/06/19 03:25 PM


Interesting tweet. Will see where all this may lead to !
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/06/19 07:44 PM

Jesus..another hit in Laval.

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...-lentree-de-cour-de-sa-residence-a-laval
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/06/19 10:01 PM

^^^^
The victim is John Danny Elias Espinal.

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...eurtre-a-laval-la-victime-identifiee.php
Posted By: Marcow

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/07/19 11:56 PM

You guys think that the Cuntrera Caruana clan is more on the side of the Ontario Calabres ( Coluccio Clan and other) or more with the Sicilians from Montreal?

And you think the Cuntrera Caruana Clan ist still one of the Richest and most Powerful Italian Mafia Organization in North America and the World, or is the best time of the clan over and others have more power and money today?
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/08/19 12:19 AM

Pasquale Cuntrera is probably retired he´s about 84 now. Alfonso Caruana is still in prison. You have the younger generations like Poncho and Big Joe still around, but they don´t have the same influence as their fathers.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/08/19 01:50 AM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Pasquale Cuntrera is probably retired he´s about 84 now. Alfonso Caruana is still in prison. You have the younger generations like Poncho and Big Joe still around, but they don´t have the same influence as their fathers.


I think Poncho followed in his father's footsteps, taking over his old crew and becoming one of the so called leaders of the Montreal Mafia. The Cuntreras in Montreal are probably not part of the group in Ontario. Montreal has historically been LCN turf while Toronto belongs to the Italian mafias, at least nowadays.

I'm inclined to believe the Cuntreras in Ontario have been on the fence at the very least. It also now seems the putch against the rogue Rizzuto group came from within LCN while the Toronto Calabrians were only peripherally involved.

I think nowadays the Cuntrera-Caruana Mafia clan is enjoying the sheer amount of profits once made with drugs and has invested it in real estate and other legal ventures while taking a low profile.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/08/19 02:11 AM

LCN and sicilian Cosa Nostra are seperate groups but the Rizzutos are in a way more Zips.
Posted By: Stubbs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/08/19 04:23 PM

Originally Posted by Sonny_Black
Originally Posted by Hollander
Pasquale Cuntrera is probably retired he´s about 84 now. Alfonso Caruana is still in prison. You have the younger generations like Poncho and Big Joe still around, but they don´t have the same influence as their fathers.


I think Poncho followed in his father's footsteps, taking over his old crew and becoming one of the so called leaders of the Montreal Mafia. The Cuntreras in Montreal are probably not part of the group in Ontario. Montreal has historically been LCN turf while Toronto belongs to the Italian mafias, at least nowadays.

I'm inclined to believe the Cuntreras in Ontario have been on the fence at the very least. It also now seems the putch against the rogue Rizzuto group came from within LCN while the Toronto Calabrians were only peripherally involved.

I think nowadays the Cuntrera-Caruana Mafia clan is enjoying the sheer amount of profits once made with drugs and has invested it in real estate and other legal ventures while taking a low profile.


Here's what I can't figure out: Who in the Bonannos back in NY was supporting Sal Montagna and his fight against the Rizzuto's? Asaro? The Grimaldi's?
Posted By: Marcow

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/09/19 09:42 AM

You guys think the Ndrangheta (Siderno Group) in Canada today is stronger and more active in drug trafficking than the Cuntrera Caruana clan?

I have read some articles. Giuseppe Coluccio and Giuseppe Big Joe Cuntrera were business partners.

Which of these two do you think is more powerful? Aquino-Coluccio Clan or Cuntrera Caruana Clan?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/12/19 12:01 PM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...use-incapable-de-continuer-le-proces.php

Hillside Coffee Murder: Defendant Unable to Continue Trial

One of the two men accused of killing an innocent client in a café on Fleury Street in 2016, because they would have mistaken him for a mafioso, can not continue to stand trial with his co-accused because of health problems.

Since January, Jeff Joubens Theus and Ebamba Ndutu Lufiau have been jointly tried by jury for the murder of Angelo D'Onofrio, a client who was peacefully seated at Hillside Cafe, in the north of the city.

The prosecution's thesis is that the two accused wanted to kill Antonio Vanelli, a member of the mafia who regularly attended the establishment.

Client Angelo D'Onofrio physically resembled the mafia, but he had nothing to do with him, he was not known to the police and he had no criminal background. A gunman entered the cafe, shot Mr. D'Onofrio, shot him dead and fled.

Investigators from the SPVM homicide section determined that Theus was the gunman and Lufiau the driver who had driven him there before and after the murder.

On Monday, however, Judge Daniel Royer told the jury that Lufiau could not continue to stand trial for the moment. "He may have had a stroke," said the magistrate, adding that the medical opinions received about him indicated that he was not fit to continue the hearings.

His trial was therefore separated from that of Theus and postponed.

Listening

An SPVM investigator, David Desrochers, yesterday recounted how police officers had been watching Theus' conversations during the investigation.

Whenever new information about the case was made public or a member of his entourage was questioned by the police, Theus multiplied the frantic conversations with his brother or friends. These conversations were intercepted by the police.

He made several calls to know how to renew his emergency passport in order to leave the country. He called a girl to tell him that he had to see her in person to discuss something very important that we can not talk on the phone, or even on Snapchat, he said.

Shortly before his arrest, he also questioned how the police could have identified him as a suspect.

"Who has been talking? We'll never know, "he told another suspect in an intercepted conversation that was presented to the jurors on Monday.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/12/19 03:15 PM

The alleged murderer of the co-owner and a manager of a bar of nude dancers from the Montérégie was filmed with his co-accused buying the same rope that was used to tie the bodies of the victims.

Giuseppe de Leto is accused of the premeditated murders of Martin Bélair and his wife Nancy Beaulieu who were working at Cabaret Flamingo in Saint-Hyacinthe.

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2019/03/11/filmes-en-train-dacheter-ce-qui-aurait-servi-au-crime
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/13/19 08:29 PM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-a-rencontre-le-mafioso-tony-vanelli.php

A few hours after the murder of an innocent client, Angelo D'Onofrio, at the Hillside café in Montreal on June 2, 2016, the police met the mafioso Antonio Vanelli to inform him that the murderer had mistaken a target and that he was the intended person.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/13/19 08:35 PM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2019/03/13/des-montrealais-accuses-de-fraude-seront-extrades

Montrealers accused of fraud will be extradited.
The group reportedly drew a total of $ 1.35 million from several Americans

Six Montrealers accused of taking $ 1.35 million from Americans to believe they won the lottery will be extradited to the United States, where they face decades of prison.

"The handcuffs are too tight," complained Sebastiano Joseph Torino when he was detained yesterday at the courthouse in Montreal.

At 57, Torino is one of the youngest among the six accused in this "lottery fraud" affair. Itcace Abramovici, Micheal Dissos, Konstantinos Filippas, Michael Pare and Reouven Dreiblatt are between 54 and 73 years old.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/13/19 08:37 PM

https://montrealgazette.com/news/five-montreal-men-detained-while-they-challenge-extradition-order

Five Montreal men detained while they challenge extradition order
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/13/19 10:03 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-a-rencontre-le-mafioso-tony-vanelli.php

A few hours after the murder of an innocent client, Angelo D'Onofrio, at the Hillside café in Montreal on June 2, 2016, the police met the mafioso Antonio Vanelli to inform him that the murderer had mistaken a target and that he was the intended person.


Tensions high when alleged Montreal Mafia member learned he was target of hit

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...fia-member-learned-he-was-target-of-hit/
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/16/19 03:40 AM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Things in Montreal just got very interesting if not downright confusing.

Le resto incendié avait accueilli des mafieux

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2016/12/06/le-resto-incendie-avait-accueilli-des-mafieux


Linguini restaurant site being cleared years after burning down

https://globalnews.ca/news/5061458/baie-durfe-linguini-site-cleared/
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/22/19 06:59 PM

Acquittement de Leonardo Rizzuto: la poursuite fait appel d'un jugement

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...la-poursuite-fait-appel-dun-jugement.php
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/25/19 06:04 PM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/un-montrealais-tue-en-republique-dominicaine

An italian linked to the mafia and the hells got killed in the DR.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/26/19 12:25 AM

Mike was linked to Liborio Cuntrera.

[Linked Image]
Posted By: Jamesbontate33

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/26/19 01:12 AM

My god that's a crazy picture. It just doesn't stop here in Canada !! I was talking to my brother about the war out here and I mentioned that things were peaceful with Rizzuto as the boss , but since he was arrested it has been insane . I know this sounds dumb to some but I was explaining it would have been better to let Rizzuto remain a Free man . Now it's just bodies everywhere and the underworld is unstable. I think the l.e need to realize crime is never going away but with someone like Rizzuto there's less violence and things are peaceful. Anyways new to the forums !
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/27/19 12:58 PM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...l-avait-31-kilos-de-cocaine-chez-lui.php

Estacade project: acquitted even though he had 31 kilos of cocaine at home

A judge of the Court of Quebec rendered a decision Tuesday that could have a significant impact on the ways of doing police investigators specialized in the fight against organized crime and narcotics. She excluded from the evidence the discovery of 31 kilograms of cocaine at a Montreal office in October 2016 because the police broke down the man's door and searched his home before obtaining a warrant.

As a result, the individual, Maxime Hébert, who was arrested on the same day as Montreal Mafia clan leader Andrew Scoppa, and two other individuals, Fazio Malatesta and Nicola Valiente, was acquitted because the Pursuit had not been no other evidence to offer.

"It's not mine"

In 2015-2016, Scoppa and Malatesta, who were suspected of trafficking cocaine, were investigated by the North Shore Regional Joint Squad (MRE) headed by the Sûreté du Québec called Estacade.

During the investigation, the police officers listened to Scoppa and his alleged accomplices. They followed Malatesta noted that he went into a slot on the 13 th Avenue in Montreal, since he had exchanged a bag with the tenant and suspected that it was a drug cache of the organization of Scoppa.

On October 26, 2016, investigators arrested Malatesta and Scoppa in the parking lot of the Canadian Tour in downtown Montreal and found more than 70 kilograms of cocaine in the first car.

A judge of the Court of Quebec rendered a decision Tuesday ... (CAPTURE OF SCREEN) - image 2.0
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SCREENSHOT

The head of the investigation then was - in 11h11- given the green light for the Emergency Response Team (ERT) between dynamically in the housing of the 13 th .

Maxime Hébert was sleeping in his room when the police burst into his home. While he was kneeling and handcuffed, he told the police that "he did not have access to the first bedroom of the house and that what was there was not his."

Intrigued, a policeman went into the room and saw recyclable bags similar to those found in the Malatesta vehicle. He lifted plastic bottles from the top of the bags, and opened a trash bag, noticing a package that looked like a kilo of cocaine. The police then asked for a search warrant that they obtained at 4:30 pm.

A call to order

During the proceedings, the lead investigator explained that after the unexpected arrests of Malatesta and Scoppa, he found it urgent to act. He then ordered the dynamic entry without a warrant on 13 th Avenue before the news of the arrests of Scoppa and Malatesta broke out, to prevent evidence - cocaine - from being destroyed.

But Judge Linda Despots concluded that there was no urgency to act. She asks why, if IWG members already knew they could intervene at 6:40 on 13 th Avenue, the head of the investigation was not from that time, asked for a search warrant. She finds that the police had reason to believe that drugs could be found there and that the conditions for obtaining judicial authorization were met. It recognizes that these are serious offenses and that cocaine is wreaking havoc on society. She does not doubt the good faith of the police but blame them for their ways.

"The Tribunal, while aware of the hard work of the police when confronted with investigations into organized crime, is concerned that this type of entry, without a warrant, into a dwelling house accompanied by a dynamic entrance become almost routine, given the danger inherent in the type of investigation. As such, because search execution principles are presumed to be known to police officers, the Tribunal finds that the seriousness of state conduct is important. "

"A dwelling house is a place where the expectation of privacy is surely the most important. The Tribunal notes the intrusiveness of the intrusion and finds an impact on the rights of the accused. Despite the company's definite interest in having the case heard on the merits, the Tribunal, in analyzing all the criteria, can only find that the police officers acted contrary to the established rules and have been many years, "writes Judge Despots.

It therefore excluded the evidence - the 31 kilograms - accumulated against Hébert, finding that the rights of the latter were violated and that the search was unreasonable.

Counsel for the Prosecution, M e Karine Cordeau, announced that it had no new evidence to present and the judge acquitted Maxime Hébert, who was defended by M e Claude Olivier.

Scoppa, Malatesta and another co-accused, Nicola Valiente, benefited from a stay of proceedings in September 2018 after Pursuit filed a nolle prosequi without explanation.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/28/19 12:34 AM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...coupable-de-meurtre-au-premier-degre.php

Hillside Coffee Murder: The Accused Guilty of First Degree Murder

fter approximately eight weeks of trial, a jury convicted Jeff Joubens Theus this afternoon of the first degree murder of Angelo D'Onofrio, committed on June 2, 2016 at Hillside Café, in the north of Montreal.

Mr. D'Onofrio, 72, a regular at the Fleury Street establishment, was confused with a man linked to the Montreal mafia, Antonio Vanelli, by the shooter.

Angelo D'Onofrio (left) and Antonio Vanelli (at ... (PHOTOS FILED IN COURT) - image 2.0
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Angelo D'Onofrio (on the left) and Antonio Vanelli (on the right)

PICTURES IN COURT

Messrs. D'Onofrio and Vanelli had a certain resemblance and their photos were filed and compared before the jury.

Theus and an accomplice suspected of driving the vehicle that was used for the crime, Ebamba Ndutu Lufiau, were arrested in 2017 following a major crimes investigation by the SPVM.

Surveillance camera images and DNA evidence were presented to the jury during the trial.

Mafioso Antonio Vanelli signed a written statement explaining that his vehicle was parked near the cafe on the day of the murder, and an investigator from the organized crime division testified in writing that there were tensions within the Montreal mafia at the time of the murder. crime.

Due to a health problem, the trial stopped for Lufiau but continued in the case of Theus, who was the one who shot on June 2, 2016. The jurors delivered their verdict after two full days of deliberations.

La Presse seized the video interrogation of Theus by the police on the day of his arrest. For more than two hours, an SPVM Major Crime investigator tries by all means to crack the suspect but he refuses to talk and goes to bed in the small room.


The woman of the victim, Lina Simone.


"That day, he took two lives"

The pleadings on the sentence were fixed on April 18th. The victim's wife, Lina Simone, is expected to make a statement. "I can not put words to describe how I feel. That day, he took two lives, Lino's and mine. The whole family is suffering. I do not wish anyone to feel what I feel. I am not relieved but justice has been done. I'm happy for Lino and he too would have been happy with this verdict of murder in the first degree if he had been there, "he told La Presse M me Simone, on leaving the courtroom.

"This is the verdict we were waiting for. We are very satisfied with the work of the jury. We thank him, "said for his part M e Eric de Champlain, who represented the prosecution in the company of M e Kateryne Brabant.

Visibly shocked, M e Elizabeth Menard and M e Audrey Bianca Chabauty, representing Jeff Theus, would not comment on the verdict. The trial was chaired by Judge Daniel Royer of the Superior Court.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/29/19 11:18 PM

Un homme tué par balles dans Côte-des-Neiges

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-tue-par-balles-dans-cote-des-neiges.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/30/19 02:21 AM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Excerpt a bit farther below is from the article to which I've linked immediately below.

The El Chapo jury is re-examining testimony from three key narcos. Here's what they told the court
https://nationalpost.com/news/world...ey-narcos-heres-what-they-told-the-court

Transcripts obtained by the National Post show Alex outlining another Canadian relationship — an agreement for cocaine, heroin and crystal meth deals with “Tony Suzuki.” This is believed to be Antonio Pietrantonio of the Montreal mafia.


Antonio Pietrantonio is mentioned in the news yet again, this time in the article to which I’ve linked below.

Canadian trucker charged El Chapo's cartel $155,000 to move two loads of cocaine: documents

https://nationalpost.com/news/world...-to-move-two-loads-of-cocaine-documents/
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/30/19 02:56 AM

Originally Posted by antimafia


https://www.coldwellbanker.ca/agent/mario-simeone-h4t1z6/
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/30/19 09:15 AM

Simeone has been linked in the past to Tony Magi. He had accumulated financial problems in recent years and found himself at the heart of a conflict involving a mafia entrepreneur
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/30/19 01:59 PM

The name of Mario Simeone, murdered yesterday morning in Côte-des-Neiges, appears once in an affidavit of Leo Lee Lalli that was sworn May 8, 2015. More interesting names also appear in the document. The five-page PDF of the affidavit, to which I’ve linked below, is found in the Library of the National Assembly of Quebec (Quebec’s legislative body, or house).

https://www.bibliotheque.assnat.qc.ca/DepotNumerique_v2/AffichageFichier.aspx?idf=162479
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/31/19 03:08 AM

Originally Posted by Jamesbontate33
My god that's a crazy picture. It just doesn't stop here in Canada !! I was talking to my brother about the war out here and I mentioned that things were peaceful with Rizzuto as the boss , but since he was arrested it has been insane . I know this sounds dumb to some but I was explaining it would have been better to let Rizzuto remain a Free man . Now it's just bodies everywhere and the underworld is unstable. I think the l.e need to realize crime is never going away but with someone like Rizzuto there's less violence and things are peaceful. Anyways new to the forums !


Rizzuto is white collar smart lawyer he could lead them if he gets the chance.
Posted By: Jamesbontate33

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/31/19 06:30 AM

Yeah I never expected leo to step up , he deft seems to be alot smarter and more charismatic than his junior . Be interesting to see how things work out this year .
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/06/19 11:46 AM

https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/man-shot-in-an-attempted-murder-in-pointe-aux-trembles

Man shot in an attempted murder in Pointe-aux-Trembles
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/08/19 01:25 AM

https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/1162940/homme-atteint-projectiles-arme-feu-laval

Two men wanted for attempted murder in Laval

Two men are wanted after a murder attempt inside a Laval apartment building.

We do not fear for the life of the man in his forties who was hit by at least one shot of a single-arm gun, around 6:40 pm Saturday, inside one of the apartments of the 14-storey building on the boulevard de Chenonceau, located between boulevards Daniel-Johnson and Chomedey.

The building is home to about 100 units, but only one-storey residents had to be evacuated.

At the Laval Police Service (SPL), it was not yet possible to specify whether the crime was related to organized crime, but Constable Evelyne Boudreau confirmed that the victim was well known to the police. She collaborates with the investigators to a certain extent, and it remains to validate several elements of his testimony.

There would be no direct link between the two suspects and the victim, but the victim could know who it is.

The SPL also has an idea of ​​the identity of the wanted men, which could help advance the investigation. However, he still had several witnesses to meet, and the images captured by surveillance cameras had to be analyzed.

About thirty police officers were mobilized, as well as a dog handler. The SPL intervention group finished analyzing the scene around 4:00 am Sunday morning; he combed through the housing where the victim was at the time of the shots and the other home where she took refuge.

As for the evacuated residents, they were able to return to their homes at around 10:45 pm

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Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/16/19 12:35 AM

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...after-being-caught-in-real-estate-scheme

Man admits to killing Laval resident after being caught in real-estate scheme
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/17/19 10:02 PM

Feared Wolf Pack leader Rabih Alkhalil who was accused in 2012 of importing 1,800 kg of cocaine into Quebec is likely to be unscathed by the slowness of the judicial system. Born in British Columbia, Alkhalil reportedly headed a network that sold more than $ 50 million worth of cocaine in Quebec in 2012.

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2019/04/17/la-lenteur-aide-un-caid-et-presume-client-del-chapo
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/19/19 01:44 AM

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...tion-wheel-turned-down-for-liquor-permit

Owners of Montreal Observation Wheel turned down for liquor permit
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/20/19 01:04 AM

^^^^
Updated article found at link below.

Steve Vogl, man behind denial of liquor permit, has long established ties to organized crime

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...ong-established-ties-to-organized-crime/
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/25/19 01:29 AM

Convicted drug trafficker pleads guilty to possessing meth behind bars

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...s-guilty-to-possessing-meth-behind-bars/
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/26/19 12:25 PM

A 49-year-old man rests in a stable condition in hospital after being shot in the upper body with at least one firearm shot during a late-night shootout on Wednesday in Verdun in southwest Montreal.

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...e-blesse-dans-une-fusillade-a-verdun.php
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/28/19 11:17 AM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Convicted drug trafficker pleads guilty to possessing meth behind bars

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...s-guilty-to-possessing-meth-behind-bars/


Interesting that Vito Rizzuto and Woolley forged a relationship in 2005 I knew they were in prison together, but I didn´t read anything into that.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/05/19 03:53 AM

https://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2019/05...treal.com&utm_campaign=reco#cxrecs_s

Salvatore Scoppa just got killed
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/05/19 04:07 AM

Wow it just keeps on rolling. Good report Blackmobs.
Posted By: BronaZora

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/05/19 04:21 AM

Originally Posted by Blackmobs


This is most likely coming from the Rizzuto-Sollecito faction. It seems like the Rizzuto family may be on their way to controlling Montreal if that hasn't happened already.
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/05/19 04:22 AM

You would think it is the Rizzuto faction but who knows anymore.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/05/19 04:40 AM

Salvatore getting killed is a major turning point in favor of the Rizzuto clan.
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/05/19 04:50 AM

His bro Andrea must be worried. Did they not try to take out Salvatore a couple of years ago? Was there ever an attempt on his bro?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/05/19 04:57 AM

Originally Posted by Scalish
His bro Andrea must be worried. Did they not try to take out Salvatore a couple of years ago? Was there ever an attempt on his bro?


Yes there was an attempt on Salvatore and was shot in the arm but there was also an attempt on the brother Andrea.
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/05/19 05:03 AM

Thought so but was not sure thx pal.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/05/19 05:25 AM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2019/05/04/deploiement-policier-a-la-suite-dune-fusillade-a-laval

He is shot during a family party
The mafia had already escaped a shooter two years ago


FÉLIX SÉGUIN and AXEL MARCHAND-LAMOTHE
Saturday, May 4, 2019 22:28
UPDATE Sunday, May 5, 2019 01:05
An important Mafia figure who had already escaped an attempted murder was finally caught up in his past last night, being shot dead in the parking lot of a hotel in Laval.


Salvatore Scoppa
Victim
According to our sources, Salvatore Scoppa, a 49-year-old mafioso who had previously been in trouble with the Rizzuto clan, was repeatedly hit on the thorax by firearm projectiles.

He was allegedly shot at around 2200 at the entrance of the Sheraton Hotel, off Highway 15, by a hooded gunman.

The assailant then fled into a black Ford Explorer driven by an accomplice, using fast lanes. They were still off at the beginning of the night.

The death of Scoppa was noted when he arrived at the hospital.

Another person was taken to a hospital because of nervous shock. Witnesses from the scene were also treated at the scene for the same reasons.

The victim attended a family party when he was murdered.

Police sources told the Journal that Scoppa had become a "marginal" player in the criminal scene of the Quebec metropolis. His behavior was considered unpredictable and his allegiances unknown. He had several enemies in the underworld.

Failed attempt

The mafia of Laval had already been the target of an attack in the parking lot of a Terrebonne restaurant in February 2017, but had escaped with an injury to one arm.

The gunman, Frédérick Silva, a notorious hitman, was arrested on February 22 following a two-year manhunt.

Scoppa and his older brother Andrew had come under the spell of Stefano Sollecito, Acting Head of the Rizzutto at the time.

The victim was particularly involved in drug trafficking on Île Jésus and in the Montreal district of Rivière-des-Prairies.

According to police reports, there was no indication that Scoppa's life was threatened again since the attempted murder in 2017.

- With Jonathan Tremblay, Magalie Lapointe and Agence QMI
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/05/19 05:33 AM

Next murder will be back here in Hamilton seems to be the pattern lately one there and then one here.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/05/19 05:59 AM

Originally Posted by Scalish
Next murder will be back here in Hamilton seems to be the pattern lately one there and then one here.


It looks like the Rizzuto clan is mounting two offences. One in Quebec & the other is in Ontario and Hamilton is affected for sure. The Rizzuto/Violi war has expanded.
Rizzuto's have formed alliances with several other criminal organizations. The Toronto clans will need more hired help to stop them.
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/05/19 06:07 AM

Agreed. It is odd how quiet it has been in Toronto, the Commisso clan has been quiet lately after their loss.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/05/19 06:14 AM

Yes they have been quiet and should be worried too.
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/05/19 06:29 AM

Yep they should be. Just gets more and more interesting. Not many made men but we have tons of gangsters in Ontario.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/05/19 06:44 AM

Originally Posted by Ciment
Originally Posted by Scalish
Next murder will be back here in Hamilton seems to be the pattern lately one there and then one here.


It looks like the Rizzuto clan is mounting two offences. One in Quebec & the other is in Ontario and Hamilton is affected for sure. The Rizzuto/Violi war has expanded.
Rizzuto's have formed alliances with several other criminal organizations. The Toronto clans will need more hired help to stop them.


In Quebec Hells Angels are running the show now.
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/05/19 07:11 AM

I think the Haitians are almost as powerful as the bikers in Montreal.
Posted By: m2w

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/05/19 07:49 AM

Originally Posted by Scalish
I think the Haitians are almost as powerful as the bikers in Montreal.


the mafia is still the most powerful in montreal, followed by bikers and haitians
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/05/19 10:48 AM

Recent pic of Sal Scoppa

https://storage.tvanouvelles.ca/v1/...?quality=80&size=1200x&version=1
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/05/19 12:09 PM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...mafieux-salvatore-scoppa-tue-a-laval.php

The mafia Salvatore Scoppa killed in Laval

Posted on 04 May 2019 at 23:31 | Updated May 05, 2019 at 7:53 am


The Press
Mafia Salvatore Scoppa, brother of former Montreal Mafia leader Andrew Scoppa, was killed Saturday night in Laval.

49-year-old Salvatore Scoppa was attending a family party at the Sheraton Hotel off Highway 15, when at around 10 pm he was shot with at least two firearm projectiles in his head. at the thorax, in the lobby of the hotel.

When help arrived, the victim no longer had any vital signs. He was taken to the hospital where his death was noticed shortly thereafter.

Two suspects have fled aboard a dark SUV on the highway. At the time of writing, no one had been arrested.

In addition to the family party, a computer conference was held at the hotel at the time of the crime. Several people had to be treated for nervous shock.

The crime occurred at the Sheraton Hotel ... (PHOTO ROBERT SKINNER, THE PRESS) - image 2.0
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The crime occurred at the Sheraton Laval Hotel.


A targeted man

Salvatore Scoppa escaped an attempted murder a little over two years ago, in February 2017, in Terrebonne. An individual, Frederick Silva, opened fire in his direction, wounding him in the arm, while Scoppa was leaving a restaurant and boarding his vehicle. Silva was arrested by the police last February and is currently charged with this attempted murder.

During the Magot-Mastiff investigation, in which the Sûreté du Québec had decapitated Montreal organized crime in November 2015, the investigators had captured a conversation in the office of the ex-criminal lawyer Loris Cavaliere during which there was talk of Salvatore Scoppa and other Mafiosos.

During the discussion between Stefano Sollecito, Leonardo Rizzuto and Gregory Woolley, a gang leader, there was talk of eliminating Scoppa and "putting a bullet in his chest" in order to "maintain control of the territory" and " keep the city, "but the younger son of the late godfather Vito Rizzuto had objected.

On more than one occasion, Salvatore Scoppa was notified by the police that his life was threatened. At one point, he even fled to Mexico.

In January 2017, Salvatore Scoppa's home was searched by the Crime Against the Person investigators of the Sûreté du Québec regarding an investigation into the disappearance since 2013 of two individuals linked to drug trafficking, Daniel Pierre and Mohamed Qazi Ali.

In 2016, three close to the Rizzuto clan, Lorenzo Giordano, Rocco Sollecito and Vincenzo Spagnolo, were killed and police sources told La Presse that they suspected Salvatore Scoppa could be involved in at least one of these crimes.

However, since the situation stabilized in Montreal, and the storm is brewing more on the Ontario side, the name of Salvatore Scoppa was less on the lips of the Montreal mafia community. But in the mafia, revenge is exerted just when you least expect it.

The Scoppa have long been considered to be at the head of one of the most influential clans in the Montreal mafia. In 2016, police regarded Salvatore's brother Andrew as the acting leader of the Montreal Mafia. Andrew was arrested and charged with possession of a hundred kilograms of cocaine in 2017, but was granted a stay of proceedings.



The murder of Salvatore Scoppa could provoke a stir in the Montreal mafia.

Since this is an organized crime murder, the investigation was conducted by the Crime Against the Person Division of the Sûreté du Québec.

To contact Daniel Renaud, call 514-285-7000, extension 4918, write to

drenad@lapresse.ca or write to La Presse's mailing address.



Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/05/19 12:49 PM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...mafieux-salvatore-scoppa-tue-a-laval.php

Mafia Salvatore Scoppa, brother of former Montreal Mafia leader Andrew Scoppa, was killed Saturday night in Laval.

49-year-old Salvatore Scoppa was attending a family party at the Sheraton Hotel off Highway 15, when at around 10 pm he was shot with at least two firearm projectiles in his head. at the thorax, in the lobby of the hotel.

When help arrived, the victim no longer had any vital signs. He was taken to the hospital where his death was noticed shortly thereafter.

Two suspects have fled aboard a dark SUV on the highway. At the time of writing, no one had been arrested.

In addition to the family party, a computer conference was held at the hotel at the time of the crime. Several people had to be treated for nervous shock.

The crime occurred at the Sheraton Hotel ... (PHOTO ROBERT SKINNER, THE PRESS) - image 2.0
Enlarge
The crime occurred at the Sheraton Laval Hotel.



Salvatore Scoppa escaped an attempted murder a little over two years ago, in February 2017, in Terrebonne. A man had opened fire at him, wounding him in the arm, while Scoppa was coming out of a restaurant and getting into his vehicle. An alleged hitman, Frederick Silva, was arrested by police last February and is currently charged with this attempted murder.

During the Magot-Mastiff investigation, in which the Sûreté du Québec had decapitated Montreal organized crime in November 2015, the investigators had captured a conversation in the office of the ex-criminal lawyer Loris Cavaliere during which there was talk of Salvatore Scoppa and other Mafiosos.

During the discussion between Stefano Sollecito, Leonardo Rizzuto and Gregory Woolley, a gang leader, there was talk of eliminating Scoppa and "putting a bullet in his chest" in order to "maintain control of the territory" and " keep the city, "but the younger son of the late godfather Vito Rizzuto had objected.

On more than one occasion, Salvatore Scoppa was notified by the police that his life was threatened. At one point, he even fled to Mexico.

In January 2017, Salvatore Scoppa's home was searched by the Crime Against the Person investigators of the Sûreté du Québec regarding an investigation into the disappearance since 2013 of two individuals linked to drug trafficking, Daniel Pierre and Mohamed Qazi Ali.

In 2016, three close to the Rizzuto clan, Lorenzo Giordano, Rocco Sollecito and Vincenzo Spagnolo, were killed and police sources told La Presse that they suspected Salvatore Scoppa could be involved in at least one of these crimes.

However, since the situation stabilized in Montreal, and the storm is rumbling on the side of Ontario, the name of Salvatore Scoppa, who was nicknamed "Mental" in the criminal community, was less on the lips.

The Scoppa have long been considered to be at the head of one of the most influential clans in the Montreal mafia. In 2016, police regarded Salvatore's brother Andrew as the acting leader of the Montreal Mafia. Andrew was arrested and charged with possession of a hundred kilograms of cocaine in 2017, but was granted a stay of proceedings.


The murder of Salvatore Scoppa could provoke a stir in the Montreal mafia.

Drug trafficking and other crimes

In recent years, police have testified in court about alleged involvement of Salvatore Scoppa in drug trafficking and violent crime.

In September 2015, during the investigation of the release of a student suspected of having stored heroin on behalf of Salvatore Scoppa's organization, an SPVM investigator, Sébastien Létourneau had described the latter of the as follows: "Salvatore Scoppa is a leader of known networks in the distribution of heroin and cocaine, and a member of the Italian mafia of Montreal, a high placed, a hood of the Italian mafia, a very well known and very criminalized who oversees heroin sales and distribution networks, "testified the investigator.

In December 2016, at the time of the trial of a gang leader, an investigator of the SPVM, Érick Lacoursière, had spoken of Scoppa while, during his testimony, it was about the murder of Marco Campellone, 24, committed in September 2015 , to Montreal. The murder of the latter, however, has not been elucidated to date and no one has been charged.

"One source tells us that this gang leader is doing contracts and collecting for organized crime, especially for Salvatore Scoppa. These are basically contracts of murder, attempted murder, kidnapping, arson, home invasion and robbery, "said the witness Lacoursière.

Since this is an organized crime murder, the investigation into the murder of Salvatore Scoppa has been entrusted to the Crime Against the Person Division of the Sûreté du Québec.

To contact Daniel Renaud, call 514-285-7000, extension 4918, write to

drenad@lapresse.ca or write to La Presse's mailing address.
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/05/19 05:17 PM

The Irish were once pretty big in Montral, but at this point I think they are little to none there anymore agreed?
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/05/19 05:25 PM

The Irish are still a factor in dowtown montreal and the South western part of Montreal.
Sure we don’t ear alot of those groups compared to the 90s.

Many groups are present in Montreal, but they are mosly cells. You have the vietnamese that are most known for the production of marijuana. You also have the turks that deal alot of heroin.

One group that have become stronger each years, are the arabs groups. You can see that they deal mainly with the italians and the haitians. They probably deal eith other groups, like the bikers.

Also, Montreal has Russian groups, that the leaders are from Toronto. In the prostituion rings in Montreal, the news mostly talk about young haitians that get caught because they have one or two girls in there grips. But its known, that the russians are pretty big in prostitution also.
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/05/19 05:32 PM

Thanks Blackmobs, makes sense here in Hamilton no one talks about the Russians but they have a pretty good presence here they own alot of buildings and businesses. I know a couple of them they are bad dudes.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/05/19 05:39 PM

Yes the Russians are very strong. They tried to take the drug buisness from the Vancouver Hells Angels in the 90s, but didn’t win the war against them. The news didnt talk alot about this war, because the main focus was about the biker war in Quebec.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/05/19 05:40 PM

I wonder how the italian war will affect Hamilton in the future. Because the city is probably a mess right now.
Do you think the Hells Angels will benefit from the italian war in Hamilton?
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/05/19 05:46 PM

The bikers will benefit. But our bikers here compared to Montreal are not very powerful they are very unorganized. Too many of them are drug addicts, hard to be organized when you have your nose in the sugar bowl. As far as the city being a mess nothing new lol for such a big city we kind of suck.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/05/19 05:55 PM

Hamilton is an important city for Organized crime in Canada.
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/05/19 05:58 PM

For organized crime yes but fir a big city we don't have much to offer. Shit for tourism our downtown is so scummy it is embarrassing.
Posted By: Moscone65

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/05/19 06:04 PM

There are so many Italians in Canada, and many young generations of associates and wannabes waiting for their chance, getting more serious ect, all these guys getting killed will be replaced. One of these days peace is inevitable, either through a new leader to bring balance or through all the main players in the old vendettas dying off. It’s a normal thing in the mob, like Clemenza says, every 10 years or so this stuff happens to get rid of the bad blood and it’s true.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/05/19 06:04 PM

I think Montreal and Toronto are the two cities that have more to give, for tourism
Posted By: TheKillingJoke

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/05/19 06:12 PM

What's the Russian mob in Toronto and Montreal like?

In Antwerp there was a time people were going off about the "Russian mob" but not a single one of them were actually Slavic Russian lol.
The most prevalent were a few Georgian-Jewish families: Melikhov, Biniasjvili, etc... were names that came up often. There were also some groups connected to Mogilevich that set up shop in Antwerp; Boris Nayfeld for instance was involved in heroin trafficking in Antwerp for some time together with another well-known Russian underworld figure named Rachmiel Brandwain. A bit later there were also Chechen, Georgian, Kurdish and Armenian groups from the former USSR active. Chechens were prevalent in organized jewel and gold robbery as well as extortion, as were the Georgians and Armenians (who were active in match-fixing as well). The Georgians settled some internal feuds in Antwerp as well: David Ozmanov, one of Zakhar Kalashov's guys and member of a Yezidi-Kurdish network from Georgia, was stabbed by a few Georgian gangsters - Kalichava, Uglava and Gurchiani - connected to Merab Dzhangveladze.
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/05/19 06:14 PM

Yep Toronto and Montreal are the places to go to have fun. Only thing in Toronto now be careful where you go so many little punks just itching for a chance to jump somebody.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/05/19 06:15 PM

True Moscone65.

There is alot of italians in the province of Ontario and Quebec. But the difference between now and the 80s or 90s, there are more big players in the game.

In Quebec, the Hells Angels are stronger than before and have more connections than in the 90s.
The haitian gangs are more organized. You have stronger leaders that work with Woolley or are independant but still strong.

In Ontario, i guess the Hells Angels also got stronger. You have aslo many orher groups like the russians, the indians etc.
Also you got the jamaicans that have got more organized. And the somalians are just ready to shot, real cowboys loll
Posted By: Moscone65

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/05/19 06:16 PM

The Russian mob in Toronto from what I know consists of a lot of Jews in the north east of the city. They are a small cell and stick mainly to their areas. They usually do their own thing and don’t interfere with Italians or bikers, and if they do, then you may find the odd Russian working for Italian groups like seen in the Violi bust.
Posted By: Moscone65

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/05/19 06:19 PM

That’s true, and while the Italians face a bit more competition in the drug game, their other areas of income such as extortion, involvement in union and construction scams ect are almost untouched by competitors. As long as the Italians keep their international connections to bring in coke, they will be the top dogs. I would say the HA are number two in Canada as a whole and they have indeed been getting more organized and are almost like a pan-white, bike riding mafia lol
Posted By: TheKillingJoke

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/05/19 06:27 PM

It's crazy to see how much pull the bikers in Canada have.
I know a few in my area and...well, let's just say they ain't anything like they seem to be in Canada lol.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/05/19 06:27 PM

Yes I also think the italians are number one. Ecen in Quebec. The biker did get a boost, but I think, when the war will be finish, the winning team will restablished themself at the top of the food chain.
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/05/19 06:34 PM

The Jews are very quiet and they all stick together and help each other. They control alot of big corporations here. Once dates a Jew from Woodbridge her father found out I was half Portuguese and half Italian he made her drop me like a bad habit lol.
Posted By: TheKillingJoke

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/05/19 06:35 PM

Aren't there Lebanese active in Montreal as well?
In my country they're pretty low-key, but they're active in mainly the black market diamond trade as well as weapon trafficking. They got quite a few connections with the more infamous Georgian-Jewish families in this (weirdly enough, seeing the Lebanese here mostly consist of Shi'ite clan from the outskirts of Beirut and the Bekaa).
They're huge in Germany though.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/05/19 06:36 PM

Yes the Lebanese have alot of presence in the region of Montreal, specially in Chomedey, a neigborhood in Laval.
And they sure got alot of money
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/05/19 06:39 PM

In Hamilton the Lebanese have a small presence.
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/05/19 06:40 PM

I am watching this show Bad blood it really sucks.
Posted By: TheKillingJoke

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/05/19 06:43 PM

Bad Blood is terrible. 5 minutes into the first episode and the guy playing Rizzuto giving that Morgan Freeman speech to the other gangs I already knew it was gonna be a pile of shit.
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/05/19 06:46 PM

Lol yep Anthony Lapaglia he played Frank Nitti in the movie Nitti as well another horrible film.
Posted By: Moscone65

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/05/19 06:51 PM

The accents were totally off as well.
Posted By: Moscone65

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/05/19 06:51 PM

Italians Canadians have their own particular accent
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/05/19 06:56 PM

Yes my Mother's Italian is different then the Italian I hear on T.V
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/05/19 09:44 PM

Originally Posted by TheKillingJoke
It's crazy to see how much pull the bikers in Canada have.
I know a few in my area and...well, let's just say they ain't anything like they seem to be in Canada lol.


Mom Boucher did a good job despite all those murders, with the 150 in the biker war we are now probably around 250.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/05/19 10:46 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment
Originally Posted by Scalish
His bro Andrea must be worried. Did they not try to take out Salvatore a couple of years ago? Was there ever an attempt on his bro?


Yes there was an attempt on Salvatore and was shot in the arm but there was also an attempt on the brother Andrea.


On Andrew, when?
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/05/19 10:50 PM

Originally Posted by Moscone65
There are so many Italians in Canada, and many young generations of associates and wannabes waiting for their chance, getting more serious ect, all these guys getting killed will be replaced. One of these days peace is inevitable, either through a new leader to bring balance or through all the main players in the old vendettas dying off. It’s a normal thing in the mob, like Clemenza says, every 10 years or so this stuff happens to get rid of the bad blood and it’s true.


In Montreal it's every 2/3 years.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/05/19 10:52 PM

Originally Posted by Sonny_Black
Originally Posted by Ciment
Originally Posted by Scalish
His bro Andrea must be worried. Did they not try to take out Salvatore a couple of years ago? Was there ever an attempt on his bro?


Yes there was an attempt on Salvatore and was shot in the arm but there was also an attempt on the brother Andrea.


On Andrew, when?


There was also an attempt on Andrew's driver Nicola Valiante and his fiancée, who was 36 weeks pregnant at the time.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/06/19 12:05 AM

Originally Posted by TheKillingJoke
What's the Russian mob in Toronto and Montreal like?

In Antwerp there was a time people were going off about the "Russian mob" but not a single one of them were actually Slavic Russian lol.
The most prevalent were a few Georgian-Jewish families: Melikhov, Biniasjvili, etc... were names that came up often. There were also some groups connected to Mogilevich that set up shop in Antwerp; Boris Nayfeld for instance was involved in heroin trafficking in Antwerp for some time together with another well-known Russian underworld figure named Rachmiel Brandwain. A bit later there were also Chechen, Georgian, Kurdish and Armenian groups from the former USSR active. Chechens were prevalent in organized jewel and gold robbery as well as extortion, as were the Georgians and Armenians (who were active in match-fixing as well). The Georgians settled some internal feuds in Antwerp as well: David Ozmanov, one of Zakhar Kalashov's guys and member of a Yezidi-Kurdish network from Georgia, was stabbed by a few Georgian gangsters - Kalichava, Uglava and Gurchiani - connected to Merab Dzhangveladze.


Yaponchik and other thieves-law had ties to Toronto's Russian communities.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/06/19 01:30 AM

Originally Posted by Sonny_Black
Originally Posted by Ciment
Originally Posted by Scalish
His bro Andrea must be worried. Did they not try to take out Salvatore a couple of years ago? Was there ever an attempt on his bro?


Yes there was an attempt on Salvatore and was shot in the arm but there was also an attempt on the brother Andrea.


On Andrew, when?


https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...05-crime-organise-tueurs-a-tout-prix.php



Oct.3, 2014

Neither Nicola Valiente nor his wife were injured. During her testimony, the woman did not exclude that the person targeted by the attack could have owned the condo that the couple lived in and that he was preparing to buy: Andrew Scoppa.
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/06/19 01:33 AM

Isn't Valiente locked up right now for dealing blow?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/06/19 02:35 AM

[i][/i]
Originally Posted by Sonny_Black
Originally Posted by Ciment
Originally Posted by Scalish
His bro Andrea must be worried. Did they not try to take out Salvatore a couple of years ago? Was there ever an attempt on his bro?


Yes there was an attempt on Salvatore and was shot in the arm but there was also an attempt on the brother Andrea.


On Andrew, when?


Here is the Montreal Gazzette version

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...r-in-the-west-island-a-botched-mafia-hit

Botched Mafia Hit

No one was injured in the shooting but Valiante’s fiancée began to experience early contractions as the couple sought shelter in a nearby Pharmaprix. When she was asked by police why she thought someone might want to kill her or Valiante, the woman replied she believed the shooting was a case of mistaken identity.
The woman is related to Scoppa and was living in a condo he owned in that building.
“I mentioned it was maybe because of who I was renting the place from. I was renting to buy from Andrew Scoppa,” the woman said when she testified at Duroseau’s preliminary inquiry in 2015
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/06/19 03:08 AM

Thanks Ciment.
Posted By: spartan

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/06/19 08:35 AM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Originally Posted by Ciment
Originally Posted by Scalish
Next murder will be back here in Hamilton seems to be the pattern lately one there and then one here.


It looks like the Rizzuto clan is mounting two offences. One in Quebec & the other is in Ontario and Hamilton is affected for sure. The Rizzuto/Violi war has expanded.
Rizzuto's have formed alliances with several other criminal organizations. The Toronto clans will need more hired help to stop them.


In Quebec Hells Angels are running the show now.



No they're not.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/06/19 10:35 AM

Well from what we can see now, yes they are.
The bikers do not control the mob, but in drug trafficking and in power, they are the #1 right now.

Before, the mafia would have won a war against the hells angels, but now, its different.

But the mafia have so many contacts, they will probably become the #1 organization in Quebec after the war.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/06/19 10:39 AM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2019/05/06/vito-rizzuto-resonne-encore-aux-etats-unis

Vito Rizzuto still resonates in the United States
A famous policeman remembers his intelligence

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Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/06/19 11:26 AM


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MURDER OF SALVATORE SCOPPA
"CHILDREN WERE RUNNING EVERYWHERE, PEOPLE WERE HIDING IN THE TOILETS"

DANIEL RENAUD
THE PRESS
Mafia Salvatore Scoppa crawled to the front door of the Sheraton Hotel in Laval, trying to flee the murderer who finished it in front of several horrified and panicked witnesses who ran out of the lobby before hide in the toilet, where they dialed 911.

"Children were running everywhere. Some people thought he was an active shooter and took refuge in the washrooms, where they contacted relief workers. There were a lot of calls to 911, "said a police source.

The Scoppa family held a family party at the Sheraton on Saturday night. Around 10 pm, while he was with another man in the hotel lobby, Scoppa was attacked by two individuals as he headed for a door.

According to our information, Scoppa would have received a first projectile before collapsing on the ground. He later tried to flee, crawling, and avoid the balls rolling on himself, but his attacker would have followed him by firing a dozen other shots on him, including the head.

The scene was filmed by surveillance cameras of the hotel. The suspects, who would have acted methodically and very coolly, fled in a dark SUV, before disappearing into the night on Highway 15.


TAKEN BY SURPRISE

Scoppa would have been totally taken by surprise. A man who accompanied him would not have had time to intervene. Everything was a matter of endless seconds.

"It may sound like the work of professionals, but it can be done in two ways: the killers still acted in front of several witnesses, in the lobby of a hotel. It does not seem like a trap. They knew that the Scoppa family had a party and they decided to take action. It is likely a crime of opportunity. "

- A police source

It is a member of Scoppa's family who made the reservation, according to our sources.

Of note, there were two other receptions in the adjoining rooms; a party for the end of the hockey season, which would have been ironic taken by Laval police officers, then in civilian clothes, and an engagement or wedding reception, attended by a man associated with the Rizzuto clan. The police believe, however, that the man's presence in the hotel when Scoppa was killed was fortuitous. However, he will likely be questioned by the Crime Investigators against the person from the Sûreté du Québec, to whom the case has been assigned.

At the time of writing, the identity of the suspects, or their belonging to a group, was not confirmed. According to our information, the shooter was wearing a dark coat and pale trousers.

When help arrived, Salvatore Scoppa had no vital signs. He was transported to the hospital, where his death was noticed shortly thereafter. Guests at the hotel had to be treated for nervous shock.

A TARGETED MAN

Mafia Salvatore Scoppa is the brother of the former acting leader of the Montreal Mafia Andrew Scoppa.

Salvatore Scoppa escaped an attempted murder a little over two years ago, in February 2017, in Terrebonne. A man had opened fire at him, wounding him in one arm, while Scoppa was coming out of a restaurant and getting into his vehicle. An alleged hitman, Frederick Silva, was arrested by police last February and is currently charged with this attempted murder.

During the Magot-Mastiff investigation, in which the Sûreté du Québec had decapitated Montreal organized crime in November 2015, the investigators had captured a conversation in the office of the ex-criminal lawyer Loris Cavaliere during which there was talk of Salvatore Scoppa and other Mafiosos.

During the discussion between Stefano Sollecito, Leonardo Rizzuto and gang leader Gregory Woolley, the latter discussed the possibility of eliminating Scoppa and "putting a bullet in his chest" in order to "maintain control of the territory" and to "keep the city". But the younger son of the late godfather Vito Rizzuto had objected.

On more than one occasion, Salvatore Scoppa was notified by the police that his life was threatened. At one point, he even fled to Mexico.

In January 2017, Salvatore Scoppa's home was searched by the Crime Against the Person investigators of the Sûreté du Québec regarding an investigation into the disappearance since 2013 of two individuals linked to drug trafficking, Daniel Pierre and Mohamed Qazi Ali.

In 2016, three close to the Rizzuto clan, Lorenzo Giordano, Rocco Sollecito and Vincenzo Spagnolo, were killed and police sources told La Presse that they suspected that Salvatore Scoppa could be involved in at least one of these crimes, although this has never been proven.

However, since the situation stabilized in Montreal and the storm is brewing on the Ontario side, the name of Salvatore Scoppa, who was nicknamed "Mental in the Criminal", was less on the lips. He was still active, however, according to police sources.

But in the mafia, revenge is exerted just when you least expect it. Scoppa may have been on guard since Silva was behind bars.

The Scoppa have long been considered to be at the head of one of the most influential clans in the Montreal mafia. In 2016, the police regarded Salvatore's brother, Andrew, as the acting head of the mafia. Andrew was arrested and charged with possession of a hundred kilograms of cocaine in 2017, but he was granted a stop in the court process.

The murder of Salvatore Scoppa could provoke a stir in the Montreal mafia.

IN DRUGS AND OTHER CRIMES

In recent years, police have testified in court about alleged involvement of Salvatore Scoppa in drug trafficking and violent crime.

In September 2015, during the investigation of the release of a student suspected of having stored heroin on behalf of the organization of Salvatore Scoppa, an investigator from the Police Department of the City of Montreal (SPVM Sébastien Létourneau described the latter as follows: "Salvatore Scoppa is a leader of known networks in the distribution of heroin and cocaine, and a member of the Italian mafia of Montreal, a high placed, a capo of the Italian mafia, a well-known and highly criminalized individual who oversees heroin sales and distribution networks. "

In December 2016, at the time of the trial of a gang leader, an investigator of the SPVM, Érick Lacoursière, had spoken of Scoppa while, during his testimony, it was about the murder of Marco Campellone, 24, committed in September 2015 to Montreal. The murder of the latter, however, has not been elucidated to date and no one has been charged.

"One source tells us that this gang leader is doing contracts and collecting for organized crime, especially for Salvatore Scoppa. These are basically contracts of murder, attempted murder, kidnapping, arson, home invasion and robbery, "said the witness Lacoursière.

It is because this is an assassination related to organized crime that the investigation into the murder of Salvatore Scoppa has been entrusted to the Sûreté du Québec.

To contact Daniel Renaud, call 514 285-7000, ext. 4918, write to drenaud@lapresse.ca or write to La Presse's mailing address .
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/06/19 11:27 AM

In term of pure strength in Quebec, right now the mafia is too much divised. They need to make alliance with other groups to make war. Also, the mafia don’t have a good pool in the italian community to comite murders. While the haitians and the bikers can take a young guy in his 20s ro kill someone for not mich money.

The Hells Angels and Wolley’s organisation are probably the strongest factors in term of a war.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/06/19 11:35 AM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...tere-bouillant-et-aux-decisions-bizarres

Assassination of Salvatore Scoppa: this murder is a message to a mafia clan
The partner and brother of Andrew Scoppa were murdered in the same year


FÉLIX SÉGUIN
Monday, May 6, 2019 01:00
UPDATE Monday, May 6, 2019 01:00
The murder of a Mafioso during a family reunion on Saturday evening at a Laval hotel is perceived by the police as a message to the clan led by his brother.


Leading Mafia clan leader Andrea (Andrew) Scoppa lost his brother Salvatore Scoppa less than a year after the murder of longtime associate Steve Ovadia. Police sources interpret an attack against the mafia faction he leads.

Salvatore Scoppa, 49, had no chance when he was shot several times in the head and chest in the lobby of the Sheraton Laval.

This murder in full family celebration is an unusual way of doing things in the underworld. The murderers have targeted an entire family, not just one person, according to our police sources.
Andrew Scoppa has already been considered by the authorities as the interim leader of the Montreal Mafia. He and his brother were already at loggerheads with the Rizzuto clan, led by Stefano Sollecito.
Operation Magot

The latter suspected the Scoppa to be moles, according to judicial documents of Operation Magot.

"Stefano Sollecito argues that the decision was made to eliminate someone, and Gregory Woolley [at the time at the head of street gangs] adds by saying that a bullet in the chest is what they must do to keep the street, the city ", we summarize from electronic listening.
Salvatore Scoppa is described as a man who made bizarre decisions because of his boiling character. He had thus attracted a good number of enemies over time.

He is suspected by the authorities of having been involved in a dozen murders in recent years, even though he has never been charged.

"He was one of the most dangerous criminals in Quebec," says a police source.

In exile

On at least three occasions, investigators suggested he flee the country because of the risks he ran.

He was forced into exile in 2015 and found refuge in Mexico. According to our information, Scoppa owed money after a drug deal in Peru went awry.

In the police community, it is estimated that this is probably the most significant murder to have occurred in the mafia since those of Rocco Sollecito and Lorenzo Giordano, occurred in 2016.

Last night, no one was arrested in connection with the crime.

- With the collaboration of Amélie St-Yves
Posted By: m2w

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/06/19 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by Blackmobs
In term of pure strength in Quebec, right now the mafia is too much divised. They need to make alliance with other groups to make war. Also, the mafia don’t have a good pool in the italian community to comite murders. While the haitians and the bikers can take a young guy in his 20s ro kill someone for not mich money.

The Hells Angels and Wolley’s organisation are probably the strongest factors in term of a war.

i think they use hired killers because they have money to pay them the mafia is by far richer than bikers and haitians it has politics links, involvement in constructions , waste etc. not in street stuff only
in other words the most powerful
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/06/19 12:14 PM

Yes in term of money, connection etc, the italians are probably the strongest. But the mafia now can’t go in war with another organization. Its not like in movies, mobsters can get hit also.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/06/19 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by Blackmobs
Yes in term of money, connection etc, the italians are probably the strongest. But the mafia now can’t go in war with another organization. Its not like in movies, mobsters can get hit also.


I agree and like someone said the bikers in Quebec are like the French mafia.
Posted By: m2w

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/06/19 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by Blackmobs
Yes in term of money, connection etc, the italians are probably the strongest. But the mafia now can’t go in war with another organization. Its not like in movies, mobsters can get hit also.

the mafia ls also the most violent group in montreal nowadays more killings although all internal to mafia factions
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/06/19 01:50 PM

Yes, cause they are the only group that is at war.
Believe me, if the bikers or the gangs were at war, Montreal would be like Toronto now.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/06/19 01:51 PM

Theirs a radio show right now in Quebec called Narcos PQ. Its in french.
This week the episode was about the Rizzuto. Interview with the cop that arrested rizzuto and also a high ranking in the DEA.
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/06/19 02:09 PM

Tell me this whole thing would not make the best mob movie ever.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/06/19 02:17 PM

The cop that arrested Rizzuto tell in the interview.
Rizzuto was a gentleman, when they went to arrest him, in his house. Rizzuto told his wife to give coffee to the officiers, while he dress.

Also, the cop told, that the Rizzuto have more than 1 billion in different banks around the world, Canada, Italy, South America.
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/06/19 02:23 PM

There was a documentary sometime ago about the Rizzutos and there power not only in Canada but Italy and South America all the money they have over there.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/06/19 02:27 PM

If someone understand french, you should listen to the interview. You can find it on the internet with google.
Its called Narcos PQ
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/06/19 03:54 PM

Originally Posted by Blackmobs
If someone understand french, you should listen to the interview. You can find it on the internet with google.
Its called Narcos PQ


Vito Rizzuto still resonates in the United States: listen to the last episode of the Narcos PQ podcast
A famous policeman remembers his intelligence

Monday, May 6, 2019 01:00
UPDATE Monday, May 6, 2019 01:00
The name Vito Rizzuto, the last godfather of the Montreal mafia, still rings in the offices of the American drug police, who consider him one of the smartest criminals of his time.

This is what can be learned from an interview with Mike Vigil, the former chief of international operations of the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA).

It is broadcast today in the fourth episode of Narcos PQ , a podcast produced by our Investigation Bureau.

With Pablo Escobar

The US agency dedicated to the eradication of drug trafficking began to take an interest in Rizzuto during the war that shook the New York mafia 40 years ago. It was in 1981 that the Montreal criminal committed the triple murder of three rivals of the Bonanno family.

"He laundered money with the help of companies, through the trafficking of diamonds and gold, but it was his many fictitious companies that allowed him to leach out very large amounts of money," he says. former agent.

"He was probably smarter than the mafia."

Mike Vigil also claims that the DEA's surveillance operations prove that the late godfather was doing business with the Colombian drug cartels, including the Medellin cartel led by Baron Pablo Escobar.

To his knowledge, Rizzuto has never met Escobar in person, as this kind of meeting would have been too compromising for the Mafioso.

"He let his associates take care of this so as not to expose themselves too much," says the man who hunted down the biggest drug traffickers, including the Mexican El Chapo Guzman, from the Sinaloa cartel.

Politicians in his pocket

The former DEA officer says he has proof that Vito Rizzuto has succeeded in corrupting politicians.

"I will not name names, but he had politicians and policemen in his pocket. He had managed to bribe several people. "

He paints an extremely dark portrait of the activities of his clan in Montreal from the early 1980s until his death from pneumonia on December 23, 2013.

"He blew so much blood, he imported so many drugs that poisoned so many Canadians. He alone has damaged the social fabric of this beautiful country. "

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2019/05/06/vito-rizzuto-resonne-encore-aux-etats-unis
Posted By: JoeTadaro

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/06/19 05:28 PM

There will never be another Vito Rizzuto
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/06/19 05:33 PM

Wasn't the Scoppa brothers at odds with each other when Silva shot at one of them? Or am I thinking of someone else?

This is a huge hit in terms of power and drugs in Montreal. I think this could be the first hit since Leonardo Rizzuto got out of jail? Or at least the first major hit? This could swing things for sure as I think they are still in power in Montreal (meaning Sollecito/Rizzuto)
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/07/19 11:07 AM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...hese-des-siciliens-la-plus-plausible.php

MURDER OF SALVATORE SCOPPA

THE THESIS OF THE SICILIANS THE MOST PLAUSIBLE
DANIEL RENAUD
THE PRESS
The Sûreté du Québec (SQ) believes that the Sicilian clan of the Montreal mafia could be behind the murder of Salvatore Scoppa, shot in front of several stunned witnesses in the lobby of the busy Sheraton Hotel in Laval on Saturday night.

"Let's say that for the moment, this is the hypothesis that is at the top of the list. But the investigation is just beginning. There are other hypotheses, and things could change down the road, "said yesterday in La Presse a police source who requested anonymity.

The police do not believe, however, that the individual linked to the Rizzuto clan who was in another reception room at the hotel on Saturday night, for a wedding, is related to the crime.

The SQ already seems to want to rule out the possibility that Salvatore Scoppa was killed for a cocaine import case that allegedly explained his stay in Peru a few months ago.

Two people told La Presse that the family party at which Salvatore Scoppa took part on Saturday night was organized on the occasion of the confirmation of one of his children, but this information could not be confirmed with the SQ.

By the time he was killed, Scoppa was accompanied by a bodyguard, who however could not do anything.

Sources said that Salvatore Scoppa, known to be constantly on the lookout, or even paranoid, may have dropped his guard Saturday night, because the chances that he will be shot in the lobby of a hotel, in front of witnesses and during a family party, were, we could logically think, rather thin. But things have changed over the years in the mafia.

The investigators began to watch videos captured by the hotel's surveillance cameras.

Few details filtered about the two suspects, the shooter and another man, who were in the lobby when the crime was committed. It is also unknown whether the faces of the individuals were hidden or not.

A BIT OF CONTEXT

Salvatore Scoppa was the brother of Andrew Scoppa, considered by the police as an influential chieftain of the Montreal mafia.

The Scoppa began to make themselves known in the early 1990s. According to the police, they were then involved in the heroin and cocaine trade, and reportedly controlled areas in Parc-Extension, Mile End and East of France. Montreal. Their trade would not have been without conflicts with other traffickers. According to police documents, Andrew Scoppa was reportedly the target of three bombings in the mid-1990s.

The Scoppa, like some clans still active in the mafia, have always had the reputation of being independent, but they were nonetheless allies of leaders of the Montreal mafia, the Rizzuto (Sicilians).

After the arrest of Vito Rizzuto in 2004, the Scoppa remained neutral in the attempted coup against the Sicilians in the absence of the godfather, then held in the United States.

After returning from Vito Rizzuto to Montreal in the fall of 2012, police officers observed the sponsor with Andrew Scoppa a few times, according to court documents.

In December 2013, a few days before his death, Vito Rizzuto summoned some influential Mafia members, including Salvatore Scoppa, to his home in Laval to invite them to make peace, police sources told La Presse .

But tensions then appeared between Scoppa and those who took over from the godfather. In 2015, Sicilian clan leaders discussed the possibility of eliminating Salvatore Scoppa during a conversation in the office of former criminal lawyer Loris Cavaliere.

In 2016, three influential Mafiosos, including Rocco Sollecito, father of Stefano Sollecito, acting head of the Mafia, were killed and the police suspected Salvatore Scoppa of having been involved in at least one of these murders, even though he was never charged.

The relationship between Salvatore and Andrew Scoppa was not always good, according to several police, judicial and criminal sources.

"We'll see if blood ties are stronger," said a source close to the criminal scene.

To contact Daniel Renaud, call 514 285-7000, ext. 4918, write to drenaud@lapresse.ca or write to La Presse's mailing address .
Posted By: mike68

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/07/19 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by Scalish
I am watching this show Bad blood it really sucks.


Quite possibly one of the worst television shows in history, unwatchable.
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/07/19 05:02 PM

Yep it really is. Now they have a second season out.
Posted By: Stu_Katz

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/07/19 10:53 PM

The Scoppa hit is more proof that the Italian mafia stronghold of the streets of Montreal is coming to an end. Although there is no true honour amongst thieves, killings in front of family is not the Italian way.
This has hells angels written all over it.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/07/19 11:11 PM

If true it was well planned at the same time they had their first run of the year. Salvatore Cazzetta is still running montreal.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/08/19 12:51 AM


Almost every influential person involved in this conflict lost at least one family member.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/08/19 02:21 AM

Originally Posted by Stu_Katz
The Scoppa hit is more proof that the Italian mafia stronghold of the streets of Montreal is coming to an end. Although there is no true honour amongst thieves, killings in front of family is not the Italian way.
This has hells angels written all over it.



The mafia kill in front of families also.
Less often then street gangs, but they do it sometime.
In front of thw family, kids, wife
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/08/19 03:42 AM

Did Salvatore Cazzetta ever win that lawsuit for 2 million against Quebec?
Posted By: JoeTadaro

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/08/19 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by Stu_Katz
The Scoppa hit is more proof that the Italian mafia stronghold of the streets of Montreal is coming to an end. Although there is no true honour amongst thieves, killings in front of family is not the Italian way.
This has hells angels written all over it.


So what about the past 3 killings that were done at home with the families inside? Does that not count as killing in front of family?
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/08/19 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment

Almost every influential person involved in this conflict lost at least one family member.


Yes the end of the conflict is still far away peace talks are the only way to end this.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/08/19 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by Stu_Katz
killings in front of family is not the Italian way.


Bless your heart, you obviously don't follow Montreal at all.
Posted By: TheKillingJoke

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/08/19 08:01 PM

Killing in front of the family not the Italian way?
In Naples and Calabria for instance there were more than a few instances where a car was riddled with bullets with wife still inside.
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/08/19 08:46 PM

There were alot of rules back in the 40's until maybe the eighties when it came to the Italian mafia like not killing wives stuff like that but unfortunately now a days they are more like a street gangs and don't really follow much of a code anymore. I mean look at the nut Casso when he ordered a hit on Chiodos sister.

Remember as well that here in Canada most of the Italians farm their hits out to blacks and bikers, so they could care less who they kill.and in front of whoever.
Posted By: Stu_Katz

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/08/19 09:26 PM

Originally Posted by Scalish
There were alot of rules back in the 40's until maybe the eighties when it came to the Italian mafia like not killing wives stuff like that but unfortunately now a days they are more like a street gangs and don't really follow much of a code anymore. I mean look at the nut Casso when he ordered a hit on Chiodos sister.

Remember as well that here in Canada most of the Italians farm their hits out to blacks and bikers, so they could care less who they kill.and in front of whoever.


Hence my point. Italians aren’t running the streets no more. No one gets whacked in front of family without a Large retaliation. It only happens when there’s no fear nor reservation. The Italians ( whoever’s left of course) have made their money, laundered it, and now are running “legitimate” businesses. Nobody wants to get their nails dirty anymore. Yes, they may be still the drug importers, but their dominance and control of the retail side of the business has dwindled. Montreal is like an open city, no ones afraid of anyone anymore.
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/08/19 10:54 PM

I agree with you there especially in Montreal I think it is wide open. Here in Hamilton at least I think the Italians are still the strongest not by much though.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/09/19 09:47 PM

Originally Posted by Blackmobs
The Irish are still a factor in dowtown montreal and the South western part of Montreal.
Sure we don’t ear alot of those groups compared to the 90s.

Many groups are present in Montreal, but they are mosly cells. You have the vietnamese that are most known for the production of marijuana. You also have the turks that deal alot of heroin.

One group that have become stronger each years, are the arabs groups. You can see that they deal mainly with the italians and the haitians. They probably deal eith other groups, like the bikers.

Also, Montreal has Russian groups, that the leaders are from Toronto. In the prostituion rings in Montreal, the news mostly talk about young haitians that get caught because they have one or two girls in there grips. But its known, that the russians are pretty big in prostitution also.


Yeah the Irish won't go anywhere, a tough bunch.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/09/19 10:19 PM

Originally Posted by Scalish
Did Salvatore Cazzetta ever win that lawsuit for 2 million against Quebec?


He also has some tax problems, but that case is still pending.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/10/19 12:05 AM

The Irish have the port that's a huge advance.
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/10/19 12:14 AM

Thx Hollander. I had no idea the Irish still had the porr been a long time.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/10/19 12:33 AM

Originally Posted by Scalish
Thx Hollander. I had no idea the Irish still had the porr been a long time.


They have still over 100 men.
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/10/19 12:52 AM

No shit. You know any of their names?
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/10/19 12:57 AM

Originally Posted by Scalish
No shit. You know any of their names?


Not really ,the Arcadi crew did a lot of business with them as well as the Hells Angels.

Posted By: Scalish

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/10/19 01:09 AM

I know in the stupid show bad blood it shows the Irish involved just never hear any names. I think the only Irish Canadian gangster I ever heard of.was Dunie Ryan and that was a long time ago.
Posted By: Moscone65

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/10/19 02:08 AM

Donnie Matticks is one of their top guys now I would assume.
Posted By: m2w

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/10/19 06:40 AM

Originally Posted by Stu_Katz
Hence my point. Italians aren’t running the streets no more. No one gets whacked in front of family without a Large retaliation. It only happens when there’s no fear nor reservation. The Italians ( whoever’s left of course) have made their money, laundered it, and now are running “legitimate” businesses. Nobody wants to get their nails dirty anymore. Yes, they may be still the drug importers, but their dominance and control of the retail side of the business has dwindled. Montreal is like an open city, no ones afraid of anyone anymore.


if the mafia in montreal didn't kill so much like new york they would have said it was dead
Posted By: Giacomo_Vacari

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/10/19 08:08 AM

Originally Posted by Scalish
No shit. You know any of their names?


Gerald Matticks, was said to be the boss.
Donald Matticks, son of Gerald, is said to be one of the leaders
Donald Driver
Darrell Van Elk is one of its leaders.
Byron Cullen is Elk second in command.
Billy MacAllister
Shane Maloney
James Ashton is another leader.
George Harris
Larry Cooney, an enforcer for the gang.
Kenny Fisher
Martin Rowland
Kevin O'Brian
O'Neill, McPolland, and McGuire brothers.
There are many too list.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/10/19 11:15 AM

I think Raymond Desfosses is also free again.
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/10/19 01:53 PM

Great list thx Giacomo.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/11/19 01:54 AM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2019/05/10/la-retraite-paisible-du-roi-de-la-cocaine

An article about Raymond desfosses just got out
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/11/19 01:58 AM

Good post Blackmobs
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/11/19 02:08 AM

Not suprised that some irish were teaming with the Rock Machine against the Hells Angels.

Some we’ll known irish mob stronghold were also Rock Machine neighborhood
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/11/19 02:09 AM

Scalish do you have informations about the 90s war in vancouver between the HA and the Russians?
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/11/19 02:16 AM

No I never kept up with gangs in B.C no Italians there that's why that is more.my interest. Lots of Bikers and Chinese gangs there. The Bacon brothers were pretty big at one time, but one got shot to death one is in jail and I think one is out on patrol. Sorry don't have more for you bro.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/11/19 02:32 AM

That alright.
Don’t remember if I saw that in an article or listened in the radio.
Vito Rizzuto went to Vancouver to handle buisnesses over there. He had also power in Vancouver.


Also, the Wolfpack gang from Vancouver seems to make troubles in Ontario and Quebec
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/11/19 02:36 AM

Rizzuto doing business out there is new to me, but then again he had his hand in alot of places including Mexico, Dominican and Venezuela.
Posted By: Moscone65

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/11/19 04:08 AM

There are/were some Italian OC in Vancouver, such as the Papalia bros (no relation to the Hamilton papalias)
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/11/19 04:12 AM

Never knew that thx for the info.
Posted By: Moscone65

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/11/19 05:24 AM

Here is an article on them

https://www.pressreader.com/canada/vancouver-sun/20071026/283068409954003
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/11/19 06:15 AM

Nice thanks.
Posted By: Giacomo_Vacari

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/11/19 08:29 AM

Rocco Zito had a guy there in Vancouver that washed money for him from the 1960s till his death in the 90s. I believe Zito had a counterfeiter there who almost sunk Zito, but the charges against Rocco Zito were dropped I believe. The Commissos had a drug connection there from late 1970s till mid 1980s. Mobsters from NF did a hit in Vancouver half a decade ago. HA control the docks and that use to be mob controlled through the longshoremen, well 502. Not hard to connect how that happened, when at least four HA members were former associates with mafia families.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/11/19 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by Blackmobs
Scalish do you have informations about the 90s war in vancouver between the HA and the Russians?


It started with the murder of Ray Ginetti a wealthy businessman/playboy close to the HA. Then they killed the Ukrainian Filonov brothers.
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/11/19 03:24 PM

Good info thx guys. I did read the Commissos Had some businesses there.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/11/19 06:52 PM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2019/05/11/les-funerailles-du-mafieux-salvatore-scoppa-annulees-1

The funeral of the mafia Salvatore Scoppa canceled

The funeral of Salvatore Scoppa shot during a family party last weekend is canceled. It was the mafia murderer's wife in Laval who made the announcement on her Instagram account.

According to what TVA Nouvelles has learned, the police believe that the family may have been warned of certain "dangers".

The funeral of the 49-year-old was due to take place Monday in Little Italy in Montreal.

Missed attempt

The mafia of Laval had already been the target of an attack in the parking lot of a Terrebonne restaurant in February 2017, but had escaped with an injury to one arm.

The accused in this case, Frederick Silva, a notorious hitman, was arrested on February 22 following a two-year manhunt. He is waiting for his trial.


Scoppa and his older brother Andrew had come under the spell of Stefano Sollecito, Acting Head of the Rizzutto at the time. The victim was particularly involved in drug trafficking on Île Jésus and in the Montreal district of Rivière-des-Prairies.

According to police reports, there was no indication that Scoppa's life was threatened again since the attempted murder in 2017.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/11/19 07:31 PM

The latest murder — see article link below — may not have anything to do with current tensions.

Update: Police have found gun, vehicle linked to fatal shooting in Brossard

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...y-night-shooting-in-brossard-restaurant/
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/11/19 08:31 PM

Crazy stuff.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/11/19 10:37 PM



Originally Posted by Ciment


"We can understand that they cancel because of the manner in which Mr. Scoppa was murdered," said criminologist Maria Mourani on Saturday. If there are other family members who have contracts on their heads and are executed by these kinds of individuals - who do not respect the Mafia's informal codes - we can expect them to intervene at the funeral ".

Ms. Mourani says she has seen in recent years, since the death of Vito Rizzuto, that since there is more godfather to keep families together, the traditional codes of the mafia are no longer respected as before.

New generations of mafiosi have their own codes, she said.

"They do not like the codes of their fathers or grandfathers, and they do a little bit of what they want to do at the assassination level, for example. In the mafia, we do not kill people in front of their families, we pay attention. [...] We try to have as few witnesses as possible, too. The case of Mr. Scoppa, it was done very visibly [...], it is a little unusual.
Posted By: m2w

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/12/19 09:45 AM

this fact that italian mafia respects codes etc. it's just bullshit
in italy they always killed women and childrens, innocent witness, relatives of snichtes, members in front of families etc.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/13/19 08:26 AM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2019/05/13/la-police-declare-la-guerre-a-la-mafia


Police declare war on mafia
Killing of hundreds of people is deemed inadmissible


FÉLIX SÉGUIN and JONATHAN TREMBLAY
Monday, 13 May 2019 01:00
UPDATE Monday, 13 May 2019 01:00
The murder of a Mafioso in full family reception in Laval last week shocked the police who are now openly declaring war on organized crime to ensure the safety of citizens.

"This is totally unacceptable, immediately dropped the director of the police of Laval, Pierre Brochet, in an interview felt with our Office of investigation. They entered a well-known hotel where there were hundreds of people. They fired several times without worrying about the repercussions. We were just lucky not to lose innocents. "

Salvatore Scoppa, 49, was gunned down with several firearm projectiles inside the Sheraton Hotel, in front of his wife and children on May 4th.

Hearing the many shots fired, several people present believed to be dealing with a mass killer.

"It illustrates the feeling of panic, the impact of this gesture, committed by organized crime," continued Director Brochet, visibly upset. People have been greatly affected by this event. They barricaded themselves, convinced that it was not over. "

Stop The Bandits

The Laval police have implemented the Repercussion project, which aims to increase its presence in places frequented by members of the Mafia or their associates.

In collaboration with the Sûreté du Québec and the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, it intends to redouble its efforts by carrying out interventions to repress violent phenomena, in addition to collecting additional information about the underworld.

"The situation has changed. We will be present in these places, in bars and restaurants. We will investigate them repeatedly. We will ask them what they are doing there. Obviously, the ultimate goal is to stop these bandits, "said Mr. Brochet.

Near an arrest

Despite the numerous witnesses to the murder of Scoppa, the perpetrator (s) have not yet been arrested.

However, the police would come closer to arrest.

The "amateurs" who allegedly committed this crime would have simply covered the license plate of the leakage vehicle, a black Ford Explorer, with tape.

- With Maxime Deland, QMI Agency

♦ Another public assassination was perpetrated Friday in Brossard, in a crowded restaurant in Quartier DIX30. Although the victim, Éric-Francis De Souza, seems to have no connection with organized crime, the modus operandi used was similar to that of the murder of Salvatore Scoppa.

The Mafia Salvatore Scoppa was absolutely not suspicious of the danger that awaited him the night he was shot in front of his family in Laval.

The man had greatly reduced his usual protection, learned our Investigation Bureau.

According to our sources, it is presumably without a bodyguard, without a bullet-proof jacket and without weapons that the victim had presented himself at the feast following the first communion of one of his children, in a reception hall of the Sheraton hotel.

These carefree decisions would have been contrary to all his habits.

Scoppa, who usually traveled in an armored car, even used his wife's car to get there.

Anxious and stressed

However, the Mafioso, of Calabrian origin, would have become "stressed and anxious" when he noticed that another evening, attended by guests linked to the Sicilian clan, took place at the same place.

Especially since his brother, Andrea (Andrew) Scoppa, a powerful chieftain, would have had a physical confrontation with "colleagues" in the previous weeks. Note, however, that Andrew Scoppa did not attend the party at the Sheraton.

Funeral canceled

Sign of internal tensions since the murder, the funeral of Salvatore Scoppa that was to take place today in the neighborhood of Little Italy, in Montreal, were canceled, revealed Le Journal yesterday.

The police believe that the deceased's family may have been warned of some "dangers".
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/13/19 01:08 PM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...al-cest-alle-trop-loin-dit-la-police.php

Posted on May 13, 2019 at 05h00 | Updated at 6:16 am

Murder of a Mafioso in Laval: "It's gone too far," says the police

Unacceptable and intolerable. The police chief of Laval, Pierre Brochet, does not want any more to see, in public places of the Ile Jésus, scenes like that which occurred a week ago in the lobby of the hotel Sheraton, where the mafioso Salvatore Scoppa was shot and finished in front of stunned customers.

"Often, we say," It's organized crime, we understand that there are homicides. " But there, it went too far. Organized crime entered a public place where people had the right to be safe. There were hundreds of people. There were families on the premises. There were organized parties. Several shots were fired to commit a high-risk murder, "said Brochet in an interview with La Presse on Friday.

Just seven hours after the police chief's release, a 24-year-old man, Eric Francis De Souza, was shot in the head while he was sitting with friends at a Brossard restaurant. A second murder committed in a public place in less than a week. Again, a crime that bears the signature of organized crime, even though this assumption is still not confirmed by the police.

No excuse

"We often hear that things have changed, that the Italian mafia now entrusts murder warrants to other types of criminals, less organized [street gangs]. But I'm sorry, the mafia remains responsible for his actions. I make it accountable for what happened at the Sheraton and I thank God that nothing has happened to anyone more seriously, "said Mr. Brochet.

Five murders have been committed in Laval since the beginning of the year. Three are related to organized crime.

In the wake of the Sheraton events, the Laval police chief called his counterparts from the Sûreté du Québec (SQ) and the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP).

In collaboration with them, the Laval police launched the Repercussion project. For the past few days, patrolmen from Laval, including members of the Équinoxe squad - specialized in bar surveillance and intelligence gathering - have been visiting establishments that sell alcohol. They are accompanied by SQ organized crime officers and RCMP intelligence officers. The goal is to put pressure on organized crime.

"We can not allow organized crime to commit crimes like this in public and endanger the lives of families and children. The police, we are here to ensure the safety of citizens. When crimes such as this occur, it really comes to us and it is our duty to react. - Pierre Brochet, Chief of the Laval Police

In 2018, the SQ responded to a similar request from the Gatineau Police Service, which feared acts of violence on its territory, following several shootings in Ottawa.

"Violent crimes committed in public places are very worrying because you never know when an innocent person will be hurt or killed. In 2017, Martin Prud'homme made the fight against organized crime the operational priority at the Sûreté du Québec, and we will continue to support our partners in this fight, "says Chief Inspector Guy Lapointe, of the SQ.

Live and perish by the sword

Chief Inspector Lapointe reminds us that killers hired by organized crime no longer have loyalty and allegiance, and accept contracts from enemy clans. The lure of profit motivates them. According to our information, the contract on the head of Salvatore Scoppa would have been $ 300,000 to $ 500,000.

For the moment, the thesis that his assassination was ordered by the Sicilians, in agreement with other clans of the Montreal mafia, is still the most plausible, according to a police source.

"The code of honor is dead with Vito Rizzuto. Salvatore Scoppa lived by the sword and he perished by the sword, "summed up a policeman recalling that the mafia was involved in several murders and violent acts during his career.

"The way Scoppa was killed is a personal matter. The sponsor wanted to humiliate him and his family. - An individual from the criminal milieu

The family of Salvatore Scoppa has given up on exposing the remains and celebrating funerals. These tributes were to take place yesterday and today, in Little Italy, according to information that circulated at the end of last week in the criminal and police circles.

Some information wants the Scoppa family to make this decision because of the threats it would have received, but this has not been confirmed.

To contact Daniel Renaud, call 514 285-7000, ext. 4918, write to drenaud@lapresse.ca or write to La Presse's mailing address .

December 20, 2018

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Sébastien Beauchamp

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Sébastien Beauchamp, a relationship with the Hells Angels, was shot dead in the afternoon in the parking lot of a garage, at the corner of Langelier and Robert Boulevards, in the borough of Saint-Léonard. He tries to flee the killer who fires several shots in the busy intersection. At least one bullet hits a citizen's vehicle, without hurting her.

September 25, 2018

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Sebastien Vena

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Around 8 pm, Sébastien Vena is hit by a projectile on Lévesque Boulevard in Laval. He takes refuge in a restaurant where his murderer finishes it under the eyes of witnesses.

August 16, 2017

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Antonio de Blasio

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Around 8:30 pm, Antonio de Blasio was killed in front of his son, in a park in the Saint-Leonard area where a football training session had just ended, in the presence of many young people and their parents.

June 2, 2016

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Angelo D'Onofrio

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An individual enters the Cafe Sinatra (former Hillside), rue Fleury, in the afternoon and kills an innocent client, Angelo D'Onofrio, confusing the latter with an established member of the Montreal mafia.

March 21, 2016

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Yannick Larose

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Yannick Larose, a former Hells Angels relationship, tries to flee his attacker and takes refuge in a shopping center in Terrebonne, where he is killed in front of several custo
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/13/19 01:19 PM

^^^^
Following is a link to photos and video accompanying the article to which Ciment posted two posts back (warning: You may find the images disturbing or unsettling):

https://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2019/05/13/en-images-au-chur-de-la-tuerie-du-sheraton-de-laval

Also:

«Des gestes inacceptables du crime organisé», dénoncent les policiers

https://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2019/05...u-crime-organise-denoncent-les-policiers

Sans garde du corps, sans arme, le mafieux Scoppa ne se méfiait pas

https://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2019/05...arme-le-mafieux-scoppa-ne-se-mefiait-pas
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/13/19 01:42 PM

^^^^
Project Répercussion: Laval police create special squad after reckless Mafia-related hit

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...uad-following-reckless-mafia-related-hit
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/13/19 01:43 PM

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...uad-following-reckless-mafia-related-hit

Project Répercussion: Laval police create special squad after reckless Mafia-related hit
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/13/19 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment
https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...uad-following-reckless-mafia-related-hit

Project Répercussion: Laval police create special squad after reckless Mafia-related hit


Like they did with Eclipse to fight street gangs in Montreal.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/13/19 01:47 PM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...tue-par-balles-a-terrebonne-dimanche.php

A man shot dead in Terrebonne Sunday

A man was killed by firearm projectiles during a shootout that took place on Sunday night in front of a residence in the Lachenaie sector in Terrebonne, northeast of Montreal.

The person who opened fire managed to flee to an unknown destination before the arrival of the first officers of the Terrebonne Police Service in the predominantly residential area where the attack took place.

The victim, Éric Chabot, was 42 years old. The exact circumstances of the assassination remain to be established.


Since the police believe that the case could be a settling of accounts related to the activities of organized crime, the direction of the investigation was forwarded to the Sûreté du Québec (SQ). Officers from the SQ's Crimes Against the Person squad will deploy a command post at the scene on Monday so that people who have information about this case can meet the police.

It was the third homicide to occur in the Montreal area in just eight days.

Last Friday night, a man opened fire in a crowded restaurant on Boulevard Leduc in the Quartier DIX30 neighborhood in Brossard, Montérégie, reaching a 25-year-old man who succumbed to his injuries during the night. hospital. The Longueuil Agglomeration Police Service (SPAL) does not yet report an arrest concerning this case

And last May 4th, at the end of the evening, a man who was identified with the Italian mafia, Salvatore Scoppa, was the target of shots in the entrance of a hotel in Laval located on the road serving the city. 15. The shooter is still off.

The murder of the 49-year-old man in front of several people, including children, outraged the population, prompting the Laval Police Service (SPL) to set up the "Repercussion Project" to ensure a greater police presence in places frequented by individuals linked to organized crime.

-With the Canadian Press
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/13/19 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
^^^^
Project Répercussion: Laval police create special squad after reckless Mafia-related hit

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...uad-following-reckless-mafia-related-hit


After hotel shooting, Laval police vow to crack down on organized crime

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/laval-hotel-shooting-police-respond-1.5133430
Posted By: JoeTadaro

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/13/19 03:30 PM

Who are these other 2 guys that got killed? Anyone know?
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/13/19 04:42 PM

Laval police cracking down on organized crime after fatal shooting

https://globalnews.ca/news/5270453/...on-organized-crime-after-fatal-shooting/
Posted By: mike68

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/13/19 04:44 PM

I am by no means advocating murder or criminal actitvity, just making an observation that without the ongoing activity in Montreal and Ontario, this site would be more mafia history discussion than anything. It's the Wild West up there as has been mentioned before without any sign of letting up. I'm not sure if this will ever end.
Posted By: JoeTadaro

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/13/19 06:36 PM

if this shit was going on in the US there would be outrage...the feds would not even let these guys take a shit without watching them. Are the criminals in Canada just that legit up there that they can get away with all these murders or is Canadian law enforcement that weak...I’m not advocating murder or any other crime either but I do have to say it does make for a great discussion and it is very entertaining lol
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/13/19 07:29 PM

Well US cities still got way more murders than Canadian cities.
The only big difference, there is a mafia war going on in Canada.
Posted By: JoeTadaro

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/13/19 07:57 PM

Originally Posted by Blackmobs
Well US cities still got way more murders than Canadian cities.
The only big difference, there is a mafia war going on in Canada.


Yea good point
Posted By: m2w

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/13/19 08:17 PM

Originally Posted by Blackmobs
Well US cities still got way more murders than Canadian cities.
The only big difference, there is a mafia war going on in Canada.

probably because in usa there are too many citizens armed and several altercations ends with a dead
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/13/19 10:06 PM

They are talking about the scoppa murder on the news right now.
They killed him in front of his kids.
The party was for the communion of one of his kids.

They are showing a video of the wife of Scoppa crying on the body of her husband and asking for her kids.

We also can see a coo trying to revive Scoppa.

Heartbreaking
Posted By: spartan

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/14/19 08:33 AM

Originally Posted by Blackmobs
They are talking about the scoppa murder on the news right now.
They killed him in front of his kids.
The party was for the communion of one of his kids.

They are showing a video of the wife of Scoppa crying on the body of her husband and asking for her kids.

We also can see a coo trying to revive Scoppa.

Heartbreaking


Heartbreaking? He was a mobster and a guy who was not very well liked. You know the saying, live by the sword die by the sword. I don't feel sorry for the wife or kids, sorry.

Apparently he wasn't even talking to his brother (who is at the top of the Montreal mafia food chain and actually well liked by many ppl).
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/14/19 10:40 AM

Sure its not about his faith. Gangsters die like gangsters dies. But more about the reaction of his wife.
She knew that there was a possibility that je qould died like that, because of his lifestyle.
Still seeing a wife, a mother crying, a son a daughter crying, you can feel some kind of way.
But you’re not sad for the gangsters, since he probably killed people also.
Posted By: Ben54

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/14/19 11:51 AM

Any links to these videos? Tried finding them with a google search but couldn’t. Thanks!!
Posted By: JoeTadaro

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/14/19 12:12 PM

Is it me or does it look like they’re giving him CPR while he’s face down on the floor lol
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/14/19 08:20 PM

https://www.985fm.ca/nouvelles/fait...aurait-travaille-pour-la-famille-rizzuto

The victim of the Terrebonne shootings allegedly worked for members of the Rizzuto family.

That's what the 98.5 FM crime reporter Marie-Laurence Delainey learned.

Éric Chabot, who was shot dead on Sunday, has already owned a safe business. He would, among other things, have ensured the safety of Nick Rizzuto Junior's funeral on January 2, 2010.


M.-L. Delainey learned that the victim of Terrebonne worked for the Rizzuto clan | Witnesses traumatized by shootings

With Paul Arcand and Marie-Laurence Delainey

10 hours ago

A close friend of Charlie Renda

According to a police source, Eric Chabot was still around Charlie Renda last year.

Renda is at the head of the Loreto funeral complex that once belonged to Rizzuto.
Posted By: Stu_Katz

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/15/19 02:57 AM

Originally Posted by Ben54
Any links to these videos? Tried finding them with a google search but couldn’t. Thanks!!



https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2019/05/13/en-images-au-cur-de-la-tuerie-du-sheraton-de-laval
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/15/19 08:56 AM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2019/05/15/les-hells-en-beau-fusil-a-cause-de-la-mafia

The murder of a mafioso in a hotel in Laval not only shocked the police, but also raised the grumbling of the Hells Angels.

Influential bikers expressed their dissatisfaction with the reckless method with which Salvatore Scoppa was killed at the Sheraton Hotel on the evening of May 4, the Journal of Sources on Organized Crime said.
Some of them have even told law enforcement officials in recent days, according to our information.

This may seem surprising coming from the gang that, under the thumb of Maurice "Mom" Boucher, led a deadly war against rival gangs that killed more than 160 people and around 20 innocent victims in Quebec, between 1994 and 2002.

But the Hells, who now control almost the entire Quebec drug market, fear the repercussions of these mafia retaliation because of increased police attention.

"They do not agree with this murder. The Hells do not need to have more police heat. They want to have as little trouble as possible, "said a reliable source.

Police more present

On Monday, Laval police chief Pierre Brochet announced that his troops would increase their presence in places frequented by the mafia and other organized crime groups.

He reiterated that the murder of Scoppa, in which a shooter emptied two bullets into a crowded hotel, was "inadmissible" and could have resulted in innocent victims.

The Sûreté du Québec, which made the fight against organized crime its priority in 2017, added to it by promising to "keep up the pressure" on Mafiosi, street gangs and bikers.

These groups have already been the target of 1100 arrests in a year and a half, an average of three per day, according to Chief Inspector Guy Lapointe.

Means "at the height"

Public Safety Minister Geneviève Guilbault reiterated on Monday that "the means [of fighting organized crime] will be up to the task".

The police suspected Salvatore Scoppa of having been involved in murders at the expense of the Rizzuto clan and believe that he was the victim of revenge.

Scoppa, 49, escaped an attempted murder by leaving a restaurant in Terrebonne in 2017. The alleged hitman Frédérick Silva is currently indicted for this crime.

It seems that since Silva's arrest in February, Scoppa had dropped his guard. He was not wearing his bulletproof jacket and had no bodyguard when he was killed at a party following the first communion of one of his children.

A LOADED PISTOL IS SEIZED FROM A MAFIOSO
A Laval mafioso who felt his life threatened by rivals has been convicted of unlawful possession of a loaded pistol.

Steve Casale, considered a lieutenant in the clan of influential mafia leader Vittorio Mirarchi and Caid Raynald Desjardins, conceded the verdict last week at the courthouse in Montreal.

The 40-year-old man, who would dip into illegal sports betting and loan sharking, according to a survey by the SPVM, should receive his sentence next month.

Armed bodyguards

Nicknamed "Cook" in the underworld, he was reported to Montreal police two years ago by an informant who claimed that Casale feared for his life and never moved without being accompanied by armed bodyguards.

On June 13, 2017, the SPVM carried out a search of his residence in Laval and seized a Beretta-branded, 22-gauge pistol.

The same evening, the police also arrested one of his bodyguards, Francesco Catalano, armed with a semi-automatic pistol as he was leaving a bar in Little Italy. The possession of this prohibited weapon earned him a 28-month sentence.

This same Catalano had already been accused in 2008 - then whitewashed - of having participated in a kidnapping with Mafia Salvatore Scoppa. He was murdered at a family party at a Laval hotel on May 4th.

According to court documents, Steve Casale was one of the wedding guests of Vittorio Mirarchi in 2009 in the Bahamas and the wedding of Raynald Desjardins' daughter at the Mirage Golf Club in Terrebonne in 2011. He did not criminal record.

Mirarchi was convicted of plotting the murder of aspiring sponsor Salvatore Montagna with Desjardins in 2011. He has been free for a year and a half. He would always be perceived as a potential sponsor of the Montreal mafia.
Posted By: Ben54

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/15/19 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu_Katz
Originally Posted by Ben54
Any links to these videos? Tried finding them with a google search but couldn’t. Thanks!!



https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2019/05/13/en-images-au-cur-de-la-tuerie-du-sheraton-de-laval


Thanks!!
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/15/19 03:19 PM

Good article Ciment. Pretty bad when bikers think the violence was to much.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/15/19 03:48 PM

Originally Posted by Scalish
Good article Ciment. Pretty bad when bikers think the violence was to much.


That was just a PR stunt by the bikers, they are not any better. When they were at war in the 90's they were using explosives. Unfortunately it killed a child.
Posted By: mike68

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/15/19 04:17 PM

Haven't heard Mirarchi's name in a while. How involved is he with the oppositon to the Sollecito/Rizzuto leadership group?
Posted By: spartan

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/15/19 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by Scalish
Good article Ciment. Pretty bad when bikers think the violence was to much.


Quebec bikers are not your traditional bikers. Totally different animal.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/15/19 07:30 PM

Originally Posted by JoeTadaro
Is it me or does it look like they’re giving him CPR while he’s face down on the floor lol


I thought the same thing but my connection sucks and couldn't watch it again.

Originally Posted by Blackmobs
We also can see a coo trying to revive Scoppa.


Reminds me of the video where they're doing CPR to Sal Montagna but they didn't blur it out.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/16/19 12:01 PM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2019/05/16/tue-pour-venger-le-clan-rizzuto

Victim of his own methods: killed to avenge the Rizzuto clan
Suspicions hovered over the mafia Salvatore Scoppa for the murders of three influential opponents

This is one of the main assumptions the police have made to explain the death of the fearsome Salvatore Scoppa, shot by a gunman who dumped two shippers at a family party at the Sheraton Hotel.

According to our sources, there were suspicions hanging over the victim in connection with the murders of Lorenzo Giordano, Rocco Sollecito and Vincenzo Spagnolo, three influential Rizzuto veterans who were also shot by a gunman. Laval, three years ago.

The exact role that police officers suspected Scoppa had played in these killings is unknown. However, he was never arrested or charged with these crimes.
At the time of their deaths, Giordano was considered an aspiring mob boss, while Sollecito was an acting leader.

Spagnolo had been a close confidant and friend of godfather Vito Rizzuto, carried away by the disease in December 2013.

These three account settlements by professional killers had dealt a heavy blow to the Rizzuto clan, which many observers were predicting at the end.

n the underworld, it was known for a long time that Scoppa, 49, was at loggerheads with the Sicilian faction of the Montreal mafia.

The Laval had even had to go into exile in Mexico in the fall of 2015 after being notified by the police that organized crime groups had put a contract on his head, according to what revealed our Investigation Bureau.

In August 2015, mafia and street gang leaders were unknowingly recorded by police discussing Sal Scoppa's "putting a bullet in his chest" to "keep control of the city." ".

Second attempt

Back in Quebec, Salvatore Scoppa escaped a first murder attempt when he was hit by a shooter with a shot from a restaurant in Terrebonne on the evening of February 21, 2017.

An alleged hitman tied to the Rizzuto clan, Frédérick Silva, is currently being held and charged with this crime.

The Sûreté du Québec, which is responsible for investigating the assassination of Scoppa 12 days ago, did not confirm or comment on our information.

Organized crime is now under increased police pressure following the "unacceptable" murder that could have resulted in innocent victims, denounced Laval police chief Pierre Brochet.

The execution, as reckless as spectacular, and the increased attention of the police do not do the job of the Hells Angels, some of whom expressed their dissatisfaction, reported Le Journal yesterday.

- With Félix Séguin, Investigation Office
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/16/19 08:26 PM

https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/...rce-to-deal-with-latest-montreal-mob-war

Quebec Police Set Up Special Task Force to Deal With Latest Mob War
Posted By: m2w

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/16/19 08:50 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment
https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/...rce-to-deal-with-latest-montreal-mob-war

Quebec Police Set Up Special Task Force to Deal With Latest Mob War


anyway this mob war has already caused at least an innocent victim, angelo d'onofrio
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/17/19 01:29 PM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...t-et-incrimine-deux-autres-individus.php

Hillside Coffee Murder: Second Defendant Denies Everything and Blames Two Other Individuals

His vehicle may have been seen on Fleury Street in front of Hillside Café on June 2, 2016, the day a regular from the establishment was killed by mistake, but he was not driving, says Ebamba Ndutu Lufiau .

The 30-year-old man, accused of the murder of Angelo D'Onofrio confused with the man of honor of the Montreal mafia Antonio Vanelli, testified for his defense yesterday and today.

Lufiau is suspected of having made a mark with ... (PHOTO PROVIDED BY POLICE) - image 2.0
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Lufiau is suspected of having made a mark with his car, a gray Nissan Maxima 2011

PHOTO PROVIDED BY POLICE

Lufiau is believed to have spotted his car, a gray Nissan Maxima 2011, before the murder, and to have driven the shooter, Jeff Joubens Theus, already convicted of murder after a jury trial.

Before testifying, Lufiau submitted motions that his car could have been occupied by one of his friends, Vladimir Laguerre, or an acquaintance, Jordy Milius, at the time of the crime.

Judge Daniel Royer of the Superior Court allowed the motions declaring admissible the proof that Laguerre or Milius "could have participated in the murder of Mr. D'Onofrio" by carrying out, for the first, of the locating before the crime and by driving, for the second, the vehicle at the moment of flight.

Several mafia names evoked

The evidence surrounding these two motions revealed that on September 21, 2016, Milius and Theus were arrested near the residence of the parents of a mafia-related individual, Erasmo Crivello. The police found a gun in Milius's car and a picture of Crivello in his wallet.

As regards Laguerre, the evidence shows that he was arrested at the wheel of Lufiau's car on the first day of August 2016, the day on which an individual linked to the mafia, Marco Pizzi, was the victim of an attempted murder.

It was also reported that on January 6, 2017, Laguerre and Antonio de Blasio made three passes in front of the Hillside café and once in front of Antonio Vanelli's residence.

A major crimes investigator at the SPVM, Gilles Gagné, said that during the Mazout investigation-which led to the arrest of Theus and Lufiau- De Blasio and Laguerre were considered intermediaries; De Blasio being the one who took the orders of the mafia clans and Laguerre, the one who gave them to the street performers.

Coded language

During his testimony, Lufiau told Judge Royer that in June 2016, Vladimir lodged him and he lent him his car four or five times, but he did not remember the exact dates.

"I am not convinced that he did not participate in the crime," he replied during a close cross-examination.

Faced with the fact that a toque containing his DNA was found within hours of the murder, among half-burned clothes and a license plate, Lufiau said he did not recognize woolen cloth. He suggested, however, that the toque could have been in his car and that someone to whom he had lent his vehicle could have carried it.

He further stated that in June 2016, he did not go to Theus.

But during his strong against-examination, M e Katerine Brabant pummeled the witness with conversations captured by the police, making it particularly noticed that he was not very angry against Theus and Laguerre, while, defends-t- he, they would have used his car to commit murder.

The prosecutor also pointed out that he spoke in code and used the letter "M" to speak of murder.

"Yes, it's because I was selling pot," said Lufiau.

"And M, it's always been used for the word murder. It happens often, by people around me. It's urban language. There are even some who say that TM is for attempted murder, "he also explained.

In a March 23, 2017 conversation with Theus's wife, Lufiau gasps when she tells him that an investigator has come to see her and told him that there is a remote camera. "The investigator told you about a car? Lufiau worried.

The trial continues tomorrow with a short debate on a motion and the pleadings of both parties.

Recall that Lufiau had begun to stand trial with Theus but had to withdraw because of health problems. The trial resumed where it was rendered in his case, but before judge alone this time.

Jeff Joubens Theus was sentenced to life.

Antonio De Blasio was murdered in front of his son, at the end of a football practice, in the middle of the park, in the borough of Saint-Léonard, in August 2017. Detective Sergeant Gilles Gagné testified that he was reportedly arrested and charged with gangsterism in the aftermath of the Mazout Inquiry had he not been killed.

Vladimir Laguerre was arrested after the fuel oil investigation and charged with conspiracy and possession of a weapon. He is currently detained.

***
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/18/19 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
The latest murder — see article link below — may not have anything to do with current tensions.

Update: Police have found gun, vehicle linked to fatal shooting in Brossard

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...y-night-shooting-in-brossard-restaurant/


Police think this May 10 murder is tied to outlaw bikers.

Le meurtre à Brossard pourrait être lié aux motards

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-brossard-pourrait-etre-lie-aux-motards.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/18/19 09:33 PM

Sollicito, Rizzuto and Hells Angels Woolley, Mom Boucher, Cazzetta seem to be one group.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/18/19 09:51 PM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Sollicito, Rizzuto and Hells Angels Woolley, Mom Boucher, Cazzetta seem to be one group.


Wonder how this organization work.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/19/19 12:07 AM

Originally Posted by Blackmobs
Originally Posted by Hollander
Sollicito, Rizzuto and Hells Angels Woolley, Mom Boucher, Cazzetta seem to be one group.


Wonder how this organization work.


Cazzetta seems to be the money man Rizzuto is the legal expert he's the lawyer. Sollicito is the boss. Woolley the muscle.
Posted By: Giacomo_Vacari

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/19/19 07:38 AM

It is a business relationship between them. HA has a lot of money tied up with the Rizzutos and vice versa. Woolley has been around for over two decades, there is a ton of photos of him in the Rockers, HASG, standing next to Boucher, Griffen, Lou Diamond, Nick Rizzuto Jr, the list goes on. Salvatore Cazzetta is the money man, with help from his brother John, and a couple of other members of HA. Cazzetta and Boucher were members of SS, and has a colorful relationship.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/19/19 07:57 AM

All of this is what we think, according to the news.
But I wonder, how they work together, because there’s many factions in play.
You got many street gangs, from neg bo, cdp, dope squad and others. So Woolley most find a way to make all those gangs, from the eastern part of Montreal, but also the western parts.

Also, for the Hells Angels, you got many full patch that most get paid also.

Then, you have the mob. Sure Sollecito and Rizzuto are two of the big name at the top. But, how Sol’ectito and Rizzuto make other clans or family stay loyal to them.
Posted By: m2w

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/19/19 09:45 AM

i don't think they're one group, they are allied but different organizations, the rizzuto faction seems the closest to bikers and haitians gangs... anyway the other mafia faction is very strong too fighting against it
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/19/19 11:57 AM

A man was shot and wounded Saturday night in Montreal North during a homicide attempt.

According to the police, at around 10:45 pm, a 27-year-old man was found at the corner of Paris and Martial Streets with a serious bullet wound to his upper body.

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2019/05/19/un-homme-blesse-par-balle-dans-montreal-nord
Posted By: pmac

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/20/19 01:43 AM

Notice a trend in this thread these guys are getting younger n younger . Next month theyll be teenager's. This isnt mafia lcn business anymore its just gang member fighting over corners like the wire. Except there italian.
Posted By: Moscone65

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/20/19 03:13 AM

How do you know all these guys are Italian? Besides anyone with any clout is atleast in their late 30’s-early 40’s, if not older.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/20/19 09:10 AM

Non-Italians always played a big role in the Montreal Mafia, with the Cotronis as well as the Rizzutos, that´s the reason Vito started with formally inducting non-Italians.
Posted By: Giacomo_Vacari

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/20/19 09:35 AM

Non Italian people with big roles in Montreal are Russians, West End, Hells Angel's, Bloods, Crips, MS-13, and many more.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/20/19 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by Giacomo_Vacari
Non Italian people with big roles in Montreal are Russians, West End, Hells Angel's, Bloods, Crips, MS-13, and many more.




MS-13 aint a factor in Montreal.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/20/19 02:13 PM

Also Lebanese, Mohawks, Jews, Asians, Latin Americans.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/20/19 02:25 PM

Every nationality in a city, has some kind of role in the criminal world of this city.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/20/19 02:26 PM

But not all of those, can go to a full blown out war, in the street.
Posted By: mr_white

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/20/19 09:08 PM

Pretty much every white guy shot in Montreal in recent years has been mafia, HA, or Irish mob related. It doesnt seem like the Italian mafia there - any faction - sends Italian shooters out on hits. Is there any evidence at all that Rizzuto formally made any non-Italians at all? I know Joe Bravo claimed it but that was far from confirmed?
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/20/19 10:34 PM

I think the turncoat in Sicily also confirmed that him and Desjardins were made. Other non Italians killed in the current conflict were Steve Ovadia and Ray Kahno.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/21/19 01:18 PM

Originally Posted by Gambler007
Gianpietro Tiberio--Article from May 30 2016 LaPresse

43 years

Little known, Tiberio, owner of a towing company, is considered by the police as a rising star of the mafia. In April, his name was mentioned in an article in La Presse about a towing company with dubious practices. According to a joint CBC / Globe and Mail investigation, he was involved in the Dream casino in the Dominican Republic, whose late godfather Vito Rizzuto reportedly attempted to take control. Tiberio, aka JP, is believed to be a former soldier of the Rizzuto clan and reportedly close to Domenico Macri, who was killed in August 2006. He has ties to influential bikers. He was sentenced to three years in prison for a 2006 narcotics import conspiracy case. He denies having links with the Mafia.


Gianpietro Tiberio is mentioned in the latest article by Daniel Renaud -- see link below -- as are other people considered to be part of the Montreal Mafia.

Nouvelle enquête du BIG sur le remorquage

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...lle-enquete-du-big-sur-le-remorquage.php
Posted By: mike68

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/21/19 04:27 PM

Patrick Poulin? It's not everyday that an ex-Montreal Canadien pops up in a mob article.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/22/19 12:00 PM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2019/05/22/au-moins-200-membres-de-cartels-en-liberte-au-quebec

At least 200 cartel members roaming free in Quebec
Several entered with fake Mexican passports thanks to the easing of border controls.
Philipos Kollaros, shot in November 2018 at Cafe Cubano, rue Beaubien in Montreal, was considered by the police as a Quebec client of the Sinaloa cartel. He imported drugs from Mexico.

More than 200 importers, facilitators and hitmen linked to powerful drug cartels roam freely in Quebec. Several have entered with fake Mexican passports since the relaxation of the rules at the border decreed by the Trudeau government, in 2016, reveals our Investigative Office in a big report broadcast on Club illico.
Romualdo Lopez-Herrera landed at Toronto's Pearson Airport in April 2018. The 41-year-old man, known in Mexico as a dangerous member of the drug cartels, managed to enter the country without problems.

Even though he is suspected of being a sicario , that is to say a hitman, the Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA) and the Quebec police force have lost their track.

Six months after he entered the country on 9 September, Lopez-Herrera, whose real name is Noé Hulloa Sevilla, was arrested for extortion by the Quebec police. But the criminal, who is in fact a member of the violent gang of prisoners called Los Paisanos, is nowhere to be found.

According to our information, the case of Lopez-Herrera is not unique. Several knowledgeable sources have confirmed that 400 criminals have recently entered Canada to traffic cartel drugs. Half would have chosen Quebec as a host country.

"It's very serious that there are people who infiltrate our home, in Quebec City, in Montreal or in Toronto, and that we are not able to find them. Do you think the population can accept that? Asks the Conservative MP for Charlesbourg-Haute-Saint-Charles, Pierre Paul-Hus.

No visas

According to figures confirmed by the CBSA, the lifting of the requirement for Mexican travelers to present a Canadian border visa on December 1, 2016 would have had a significant impact on the increase in the number of drug traffickers who have successfully entered Canada's border. country.


The CBSA states that seizures of drugs from Mexico had already jumped 80% one year after the entry into force of the decision, and the 500% territorial prohibitions.

Canadian customs had predicted that this Trudeau government policy would have devastating consequences.

"The lifting of the bond will facilitate travel to Canada to reinforce cartel chains or establish new cartel chains," states a progress report from the Border Services Agency consulted through a request for access to the 'information.

Not the only ones

The members of the Mexican cartels are far from the only ones to benefit from this novelty. Among these people linked to unheard-of violence are also suspects from Peru and Colombia, among others.

Most of them obtained fake Mexican passports, a document that is easy to counterfeit given the corruption that is eating away at the various levels of government in this country.

"After this decision by the Liberal government, there has been a resurgence of fake Mexican passports. One can buy one for about $ 1,000, "says Jean-Pierre Fortin, president of the national union of customs and immigration.

The office of Canada's Minister of Public Safety, Ralph Goodale, sent us back to the CBSA, which e-mailed it to take its responsibilities very seriously when it comes to border protection and national security.

"In order not to compromise its operational efforts, the CBSA can only talk about its role," it said.
THE POLICE LOST THEIR TRACK
400 people who entered Canada and are suspected of being linked to the Mexican drug cartels are now untraceable. Some are actively sought by the police.

â–º Carlos Joel Borrego Mendoza

Originally from Peru, he is suspected of working for the Peruvian cartel. He has a criminal record in Brazil for serious crimes. He came here with a fake Mexican passport. He can not be found.

â–º Fredi Gil Rodriguez

Colombian, he is suspected of working with Mexican cartels as a hitman. He was extradited to the United States in the early 2000s and sentenced for drug trafficking and returned to Colombia. He finally managed to enter Canada last year with a fake Mexican passport. He can not be found.

â–º Romualdo Lopez-Herrera

This man is suspected of being a sicario (killer) serving the Mexican cartels and is actually called Noé Hulloa Sevilla.
He is a member of a prison gang, Los Paisanos. He entered here with a fake Mexican passport, and he is nowhere to be found.

LINKS TO THE MURDER AT THE SHERATON?
The murder of Mafia Salvatore Scoppa, shot in front of family and friends at the Sheraton Hotel in Laval on May 4, could hide an unpaid debt to the Peruvian cartels.
A transaction of nearly 100 kg of drugs that would have gone wrong in Peru in 2016, may have incited drug traffickers to put the Mafioso's head at a price.

At that time, our Investigation Office had also revealed that Scoppa had returned from this trip injured on the arm and carrying several bruises.

Murder contract

One of the theories currently circulating in police circles suggests that the Sicilian clan, with whom Sal Scoppa was cold, could have taken on the murder contract of the Peruvians to shoot him down.

"This theory would have the advantage for the Sicilians to settle their clan war with Scoppa while solving the problem of the cartels of Peru," said a police source who requested anonymity.

The public execution of Salvatore Scoppa in front of hundreds of people was enough for the Laval police to openly declare war on organized crime.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/23/19 09:21 PM

https://www.thepostmillennial.com/4...a-since-trudeau-eased-visa-requirements/


REPORT: 400 Mexican cartel traffickers, hit-men and criminals have entered Canada since Trudeau eased Visa requirements
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/24/19 01:45 PM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2019/05/24/un-incendie-chez-une-relation-de-la-mafia

A suspicious fire has completely destroyed the house, of a businessman with a heavy history & ties to the mafia, dating early yesterday morning in Esterel, in the Laurentians.

"There are indications that this is a criminal fire," says Marc Tessier, spokesman for the Sûreté du Québec (SQ) for the region.A trust controlled by Rhéal Dallaire and his family acquired the house for $ 1.3 million in January 2018.Located directly on the shores of Lac du Nord, it was formerly owned by former businessman Guy Cloutier, who was sentenced in 2004 for sexual assault on children, including singer Nathalie Simard.The fire investigator of the SQ must inspect the premises today to clarify the cause of the incident.

Suspicious soil

Joined by our Investigation Office, Rhéal Dallaire was still shocked by the burning of the residence, where there was a member of his family.

"My nephew called me at 2 in the morning," he says.

The businessman does not know who could blame him for burning his home.

"No idea," he said. They asked me that question this morning [yesterday]. "

Dallaire, 55, made a name for himself in 2017, when the City of Montreal and the Quebec government took steps to stop the accumulation of tons of suspect soil on a vast piece of land in Rivière-des-Monts. -Prairies. In the 1990s, he increased jail time for drug trafficking, fraud, fraud, extortion, theft and assault, among others.

Charbonneau Commission

Dallaire then had business relations with individuals linked to the Italian mafia, who made talk about them to the Charbonneau commission on corruption in the construction industry.

According to court documents, he has had business relations with Domenico Arcuri, who is close to the mafia. With his former partner, the boss Raynald Desjardins, this entrepreneur has tried to get his hands on the decontamination company Carboneutre.

For years, Dallaire and his wife were the most important creditors of the company.

A Carboneutre consultant, Marlene Girard, has been pursuing her since 2013, accusing her of having sentenced a lieutenant of former godfather Vito Rizzuto, Tonino Callochia, to threaten her with death. Callochia was murdered in December 2014.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/24/19 02:03 PM

^^^^
A suspect has been arrested. The journalist has updated the article:

Un proche des gangs de rue arrêté en lien avec l'incendie de L'Estérel

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...rrete-en-lien-avec-lincendie-de-lesterel
Posted By: mike68

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/29/19 06:51 PM

https://nationalpost.com/news/10-3-podcast-latest-montreal-mafia-shooting-leads-to-police-crackdown

Great listen here. National Post Podcast with Montreal Gazette reporter Paul Cherry who provides somewhat of a 20,000 foot overview of the Montreal mafia war from 2009 through the present day. Well worth your time.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/01/19 11:39 AM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2019/06/01/une-fabrique-darmes-a-la-maison

A weapons factory at home
Terrebonne citizen accused of using a 3D printer to make gun parts

A restaurant owner accused of helping an alleged hitman during the murder of an ex-biker would have used a 3D printer to make firearms in his home in Terrebonne.

This is the astonishing hypothesis raised by the Montreal police (SPVM) in court documents the seizure of an arsenal and a printer in three dimensions in the bungalow Giovanni Presta Jr, February 23, learned the Newspaper .

It would be the first time in Canada that a murder investigation leads to such a discovery.

The 33-year-old man, detained for two months, is charged with premeditated murder, manufacturing and illegal possession of weapons and possession of drugs for the purpose of smuggling.

Sébastien Beauchamps, a former Rockers and Hells Angels supporter, was shot dead near a service station in the Saint-Léonard neighborhood on the afternoon of December 20, 2018.

The alleged hitman Frédérick Silva is suspected of firing "several projectiles at the victim, reaching vehicles occupied by innocent citizens" during the shootings filmed by surveillance cameras, reads in a request of SPVM filed in court this week.

There is no charge, however, since the gunman "wore a mask" and could not be identified by other means of investigation.

However, "the totality of the evidence leads to the conclusion that Giovanni Presta Junior is the driver of the vehicle used for the murder," the SPVM alleged to Judge Hélène Morin.

Three silenced guns were dropped at the scene of the crime, including a Cobray pistol identical to one of the 12 firearms found at the former owner of the Le Villagio's Terrebonne resto-bar.
The famous 3D printer was "behind the kitchen" and was used to "manufacture" accessories and firearms, according to the court documents we consulted.
In particular, the police found 13 black plastic "handgun pieces", a pistol gun and a charger also made of plastic, all of which could have been reproduced with this technology.

To find out, the police wait for the results of analyzes of the contents of the memory card of the printer.

Silencers and masks

The shed contained a "machine shop and storage of materials used to manufacture prohibited devices such as silencers".

Documents showing how to make a machine gun and a pistol were also seized.
Presta had also set up a cache of weapons in the wall of a bathroom in the basement, behind a removable cabinet.

It contained "a hand-crafted black P80 gun with a gray silencer," three empty magazines, a license plate, and GPS tags that could have been used to track Beauchamps' real-time movements.

Presta also had rubber masks - "face and hair," according to the police - identical to those seized at the condo that Frédérick Silva lived in Old Montreal when he was also arrested on February 23.

A fingerprint of Presta was found on the packaging of one of the masks found at Silva on Duke Street.

Presta's spouse, Sonia Langlais, is also charged with guns and drugs found in their home worth $ 251,000.

Considered an "offending property", the house could be handed over to the state in the event of guilty verdicts against the couple.

Between 2007 and 2016, Presta ran Projection SEXXXTASS, a company specializing in the "distribution of exotic films online", according to the SPVM.

Without a judicial record, he went bankrupt in January 2018, having reported to the tax office revenues totaling just $ 43,600 in the previous six years.

- With the collaboration of Félix Séguin, Investigation Office


The so-called Megalo investigation project targeting alleged hitman Frédérick Silva could lead to charges for other organized crime murders.

However, the SPVM specifies that "several analyzes and expertise remain to be done" before reaching that point, according to new court documents related to this case.

It could take several months before the police get the results of expertises on the contents of the computer equipment and the cell phones seized.

The same is true for comparative DNA analyzes of several potential pieces of evidence taken on murder scenes and inside the condo where Silva was hiding.

A dozen contracts

The police, who tracked Silva for two years before capturing him three months ago in Old Montreal, suspect him of having executed up to a dozen murder contracts, has already revealed Le Journal
.For now, Silva is accused of two murders - Alessandro Vinci, killed in Laval on October 11, 2018, and Daniel Armando Somoza Gildea, who died outside the bar Les Amazones in Montreal, May 24, 2017 - and attempted to murder on the mafioso Salvatore Scoppa, Terrebonne, February 21, 2017.

This same Scoppa was shot dead in a family reception at the Sheraton Hotel in Laval on May 4th.

"This is one of the best organized crime killers in recent years," according to a police source, referring to the 38-year-old man, who used at least three false identities and different looks to escape the forces. of the order.
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/01/19 12:38 PM

So that scene in Gomorrahs second season was based in fact....
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/02/19 11:59 PM

It's the first time I read 3D printed guns are used in gangland shootings, welcome to the future.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/03/19 06:07 PM

Latest article by Daniel Renaud is about drug dens in Montreal, as well as about the sale of cocaine and crack.

Incursion dans l'univers lucratif des piqueries

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...dans-lunivers-lucratif-des-piqueries.php
Posted By: JoeTadaro

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/03/19 08:03 PM

Originally Posted by CabriniGreen
So that scene in Gomorrahs second season was based in fact....



Thought the same thing lol
Posted By: pmac

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/03/19 11:39 PM

Cracks been a thing in massachusetts think its just not a popular as herion. Mass just loves some dope. Its weird theres crack dens in montreal just such a old term n thing. New jack citys the carter is a picture. Around new england just way smaller.
Posted By: pmac

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/03/19 11:40 PM

Crack dens were huge in 90tys early 2000s around here. Now cops will just shut them down illegally if they even have a thought its open door drug spot
Posted By: pmac

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/03/19 11:43 PM

Just come threw door kick everyone out throw up there own no trespassing sign and arrest everyone everyday till they forget about the spot
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/04/19 03:53 AM

Attempted murder in Saint-Eustache

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...entative-de-meurtre-a-saint-eustache.php
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/06/19 02:29 AM

https://globalnews.ca/news/5352122/quebec-laval-montreal-drug-raids/

Major drug sweep in Quebec leads to 20 arrests
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/06/19 04:04 PM

Link below is to a short article by Claude Poirier, who is most well known in Quebec for his work as a hostage negotiator.

Il n’y a plus de code d’honneur dans le milieu criminel

https://www.lecourrierdusud.ca/opin...e-code-dhonneur-dans-le-milieu-criminel/
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/06/19 11:17 PM

^^^^
One of my Twitter followers indicated the above link no longer works; so use the following link instead:

Web Archive link
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/08/19 11:02 AM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...dro-sucapane-peut-retourner-chez-lui.php

Montreal Mafia: Alessandro Sucapane can return home

Alessandro Sucapane, 54, former partner of the late rebel clan leader of the Montreal mafia Giuseppe de Vito, may leave the half-way house where he has been living for six months and return home.

The Parole Board of Canada considers that he has made a lot of progress and no longer poses a risk to society. She therefore grants him full parole.

For its part, an investigator from the Royal Canadian Mounted Police told the Commission three months ago that Sucapane is no longer a subject of interest to the federal police and that it has reason to believe that he retired from the Montreal Mafia.

"You said you have been withdrawn since 2013 and others have taken your place. You now want to dedicate yourself to your job as manager, salesman and businessman, and make your family your priority. In addition, your friend's death and incarceration influenced your decision to stay away from the criminal scene, "commissioners wrote in a five-page decision on May 27.

Friend with Ponytail

In January 2015, Sucapane was sentenced to 10 years as a penitentiary for gangsterism, drug trafficking and cannabis production. He had been arrested the previous year as part of a major RCMP investigation called Clemenza. This investigation was aimed at emerging mafia clans attempting to take the place of the Rizzuto after they had been squashed during Operation Coliseum in November 2006.

Sucapane was the right arm of Giuseppe De Vito who, according to the police, was part of an alliance that attempted a coup against the clan of the Sicilians in 2010 and 2011. From Vito, aka Ponytail, because of this hair that he always wore a ponytail, died poisoned by cyanide which was poured into his smoothie, at Donnacona Penitentiary in 2013.

During his hearing before the commissioners last December, Sucapane told De Vito that he was a very good friend, but disassociated himself from the "political gestures" of the latter.

Sucapane also asserted that a contractor owed him a fairly large debt and this probably tickles the commissioners who took the trouble to include it in their decision. Sucapane is ready to reduce the amount of the debt, to settle the file, and the commissioners require that he discloses all its financial transactions, including the possible settlement of this financial dispute.

Sucapane will also have to avoid anyone whom he knows is involved in criminal activities and not to frequent the bars.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/11/19 12:50 PM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...tation-musclee-comme-si-vous-y-etiez.php

An individual whose trial is being held in Montreal reminisced, in spite of himself, of bad memories when the prosecution broadcast a recording of his spectacular arrest.

This one, carried out by the Tactical Intervention Group (GTI) of the Police Service of the City of Montreal (SPVM), took place on March 3, 2017.

It has the particularity of being recorded by a microphone that the police had installed in the car of the suspect, which gives a spectacular intervention as the public is rarely lucky enough to hear.

Period of tension

The accused, Vladimir Laguerre, 29, a resident of the borough of Rivière-des-Prairies-Pointe-aux-Trembles, is on trial for a robbery robbery and possession of a weapon.

He was among five Mafia and gang-related individuals who were being tapped in an investigation called Fuel Oil and intended to elucidate the murder of Angelo D'Onofrio, an innocent client of Hillside Coffee, committed on June 2 2016.

The mafia was experiencing yet another moment of tension in 2016. The Mazout project was also intended to elucidate the murder of another individual, Ali Awada, committed in January 2017, according to court documents obtained by La Presse . No one has been charged for this crime.

In addition, the 1 st August 2016, after an attempted murder committed against the mafia probably Marco Pizzi, the police found that an individual had contacted Vladimir Laguerre. "He started to be of interest to us," said Detective Sergeant Gilles Gagné, of the SPVM's Major Crimes.

"Do you have your hood? "

The Major Crime Investigators and the SPVM Organized Crime Division obtained a listening authorization on February 23, 2017. On March 3, they heard on the Laguerre lines and an accomplice talk about "three kis", and the police concluded that the suspects were preparing to rob traffickers to seize 3 kg of cocaine.

"One of them asked," Do you have your hood? " They also said to bring a big, which means a large-caliber weapon, suggesting they were doing a drug burn, "said the prosecutor, M e Martin Joly, in its statement of opening.

On March 3, 2017, the investigators spotted the suspects and saw them scouting in the area of ​​French and Sainte-Claire Streets, in the Tétreaultville sector, in the east end of Montreal. They then decided to intervene.

"We knew the background of Vladimir Laguerre. He has already been arrested with a weapon. He stands with mafia people. In our charters, there are three kinds of risks: low, moderate and high. Laguerre is of a high degree of dangerousness, so the IWG was involved, "said Witness Gagné.

At the time of his arrest, Laguerre had in his belt a pistol with a charger - but no bullet was still chambered - and another charger full, apart.

He wants to exclude from the evidence

The trial, chaired by Justice Jean-Jacques Gagné, of the Court of Quebec, will continue next week. Laguerre, who is defended by M e Claude Olivier, challenges the legality of his arrest.

Laguerre made headlines in the fall of 2017 when he swallowed a cell phone mini-phone at the Rivière-des-Prairies Detention Center to hide him.

Two of the five individuals heard in the Fuel Project are Jeff Joubens Theus and Ebamba Ndutu Lufiau.

The first was convicted by a jury of the murder of Angelo D'Onofrio and sentenced to life imprisonment, while the trial of the second for the same charge is still ongoing.

A third individual, Antonio De Blasio, linked to the mafia, was murdered in a park in Saint-Léonard, under the eyes of his son, after a football training in August 2017.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/12/19 02:56 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...tation-musclee-comme-si-vous-y-etiez.php

An individual whose trial is being held in Montreal reminisced, in spite of himself, of bad memories when the prosecution broadcast a recording of his spectacular arrest.

This one, carried out by the Tactical Intervention Group (GTI) of the Police Service of the City of Montreal (SPVM), took place on March 3, 2017.

It has the particularity of being recorded by a microphone that the police had installed in the car of the suspect, which gives a spectacular intervention as the public is rarely lucky enough to hear.

Period of tension

The accused, Vladimir Laguerre, 29, a resident of the borough of Rivière-des-Prairies-Pointe-aux-Trembles, is on trial for a robbery robbery and possession of a weapon.

He was among five Mafia and gang-related individuals who were being tapped in an investigation called Fuel Oil and intended to elucidate the murder of Angelo D'Onofrio, an innocent client of Hillside Coffee, committed on June 2 2016.

The mafia was experiencing yet another moment of tension in 2016. The Mazout project was also intended to elucidate the murder of another individual, Ali Awada, committed in January 2017, according to court documents obtained by La Presse . No one has been charged for this crime.

In addition, the 1 st August 2016, after an attempted murder committed against the mafia probably Marco Pizzi, the police found that an individual had contacted Vladimir Laguerre. "He started to be of interest to us," said Detective Sergeant Gilles Gagné, of the SPVM's Major Crimes.

"Do you have your hood? "

The Major Crime Investigators and the SPVM Organized Crime Division obtained a listening authorization on February 23, 2017. On March 3, they heard on the Laguerre lines and an accomplice talk about "three kis", and the police concluded that the suspects were preparing to rob traffickers to seize 3 kg of cocaine.

"One of them asked," Do you have your hood? " They also said to bring a big, which means a large-caliber weapon, suggesting they were doing a drug burn, "said the prosecutor, M e Martin Joly, in its statement of opening.

On March 3, 2017, the investigators spotted the suspects and saw them scouting in the area of ​​French and Sainte-Claire Streets, in the Tétreaultville sector, in the east end of Montreal. They then decided to intervene.

"We knew the background of Vladimir Laguerre. He has already been arrested with a weapon. He stands with mafia people. In our charters, there are three kinds of risks: low, moderate and high. Laguerre is of a high degree of dangerousness, so the IWG was involved, "said Witness Gagné.

At the time of his arrest, Laguerre had in his belt a pistol with a charger - but no bullet was still chambered - and another charger full, apart.

He wants to exclude from the evidence

The trial, chaired by Justice Jean-Jacques Gagné, of the Court of Quebec, will continue next week. Laguerre, who is defended by M e Claude Olivier, challenges the legality of his arrest.

Laguerre made headlines in the fall of 2017 when he swallowed a cell phone mini-phone at the Rivière-des-Prairies Detention Center to hide him.

Two of the five individuals heard in the Fuel Project are Jeff Joubens Theus and Ebamba Ndutu Lufiau.

The first was convicted by a jury of the murder of Angelo D'Onofrio and sentenced to life imprisonment, while the trial of the second for the same charge is still ongoing.

A third individual, Antonio De Blasio, linked to the mafia, was murdered in a park in Saint-Léonard, under the eyes of his son, after a football training in August 2017.


Getaway driver found guilty of manslaughter in death of Ahuntsic man

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...f-manslaughter-in-death-of-ahuntsic-man/
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/12/19 04:33 PM

^^^^
Meurtre au café Hillside: l'accusé Lufiau évite le pire
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...illside-laccuse-lufiau-evite-le-pire.php

Tué par erreur: le deuxième accusé aussi coupable
https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2019/06/11/tue-par-erreur--le-deuxieme-accuse-aussi-coupable
Posted By: pmac

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/12/19 05:15 PM

Why are all these black gang members killing the mafia guys up there. Good way to start a race war atleast in the prisons. Even the guy who shot the mustaino guy in Hamilton was black. The shooter of rizzuto jr was black I think. Crazy. This guy an his buddy walked into a bar shot a guy dead thinking he was some other mafia dude
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/12/19 05:46 PM

Well its not a black thing, or an italian thing.
Its just different factions making deals with different groups in the montreal underworld.
You got haitians that support the Rizzuto’s, you got haitians that support those against Rizzuto’s.

Also, the italians put hits on people, and anybody can take the deal.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/12/19 05:48 PM

You won’t see a race war in Montreal or in Canada.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/18/19 01:25 PM

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...after-cote-des-neiges-hair-salon-torched

Montreal police investigate after Côte-des-Neiges hair salon torched
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/19/19 10:22 AM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2019/06/18/incendie-criminel-dans-un-commerce-de-cote-des-neiges

The beauty salon of a man known to police for his links with the mafia was destroyed by the flames

Recently opened, a beauty salon in Montreal, owned by a close couple of the late godfather of the mafia, was destroyed by arson Tuesday.

The call to 911 was made at 2:40 am by a passerby who saw the flames springing from the Avanti Le Spa store, located at the corner of Jean-Talon Street West and Décarie Boulevard, in the Côte-des-Monts neighborhood. -Neiges.

It took a little less than an hour for the twenty or so firefighters present to control the fire, said Matthew Griffith, head of the fire prevention section at the Montreal Fire Department.

The trade is not considered a total loss, but the very significant damage is valued at $ 225,000.

When the building was secured, the first firefighters to set foot inside did not take long to notice something was wrong.

Traces of flammable liquid were discovered, confirmed the Police Department of the City of Montreal (SPVM), to which the file was quickly transferred.

The criminal fire department of the SPVM has spent the scene combing for many hours on Tuesday, to go back to the culprit.

Images of security cameras installed on the scene were also viewed and could help investigators find the suspect.

The company Avanti The Spa belongs to Micheline Gallo, the wife of Antonio "Tony" Papa.

The branch of Jean-Talon West is the third and last of the banner and was inaugurated just two months ago.

The 71-year-old, well known in the Montreal business community, was, by his own admission, a close friend of the late Montreal Mafia godfather, Vito Rizzuto.

He was also very close to Moreno Gallo, an influential mafioso murdered in 2013 in Acapulco, Mexico.

According to our information, everything indicates that the fire was lit to send a message to the septuagenarian.

And this message, we can not be clearer.

The suspect at the origin of the fire was careful to spray several corners of the living room flammable liquid, presumably for the purpose that it is a total loss.

According to our sources, the investigators suspect that Tony Papa is probably the person targeted by this criminal act.

But they will have to determine the precise reason.

Without explanation

Contacted Tuesday by Le Journal , the Papa family says they have received no threat that could explain such a gesture and has no idea who could be behind the crime.

As the fire was lit in the middle of the night, the living room was closed and no one was injured.

The investigation is continuing and the police have not made any arrests for the moment.

- With the collaboration of Jean-François Cloutier and Félix Séguin, Investigation Office
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/19/19 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment
https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2019/05/15/les-hells-en-beau-fusil-a-cause-de-la-mafia

[snip]

A LOADED PISTOL IS SEIZED FROM A MAFIOSO
A Laval mafioso who felt his life threatened by rivals has been convicted of unlawful possession of a loaded pistol.

Steve Casale, considered a lieutenant in the clan of influential mafia leader Vittorio Mirarchi and Caid Raynald Desjardins, conceded the verdict last week at the courthouse in Montreal.

The 40-year-old man, who would dip into illegal sports betting and loan sharking, according to a survey by the SPVM, should receive his sentence next month.

Armed bodyguards

Nicknamed "Cook" in the underworld, he was reported to Montreal police two years ago by an informant who claimed that Casale feared for his life and never moved without being accompanied by armed bodyguards.

On June 13, 2017, the SPVM carried out a search of his residence in Laval and seized a Beretta-branded, 22-gauge pistol.

The same evening, the police also arrested one of his bodyguards, Francesco Catalano, armed with a semi-automatic pistol as he was leaving a bar in Little Italy. The possession of this prohibited weapon earned him a 28-month sentence.

This same Catalano had already been accused in 2008 - then whitewashed - of having participated in a kidnapping with Mafia Salvatore Scoppa. He was murdered at a family party at a Laval hotel on May 4th.

According to court documents, Steve Casale was one of the wedding guests of Vittorio Mirarchi in 2009 in the Bahamas and the wedding of Raynald Desjardins' daughter at the Mirage Golf Club in Terrebonne in 2011. He did not criminal record.

Mirarchi was convicted of plotting the murder of aspiring sponsor Salvatore Montagna with Desjardins in 2011. He has been free for a year and a half. He would always be perceived as a potential sponsor of the Montreal mafia.


Man with alleged ties to Montreal Mafia sentenced for loaded gun

https://montrealgazette.com/news/man-with-alleged-ties-to-montreal-mafia-sentenced-for-loaded-gun/
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/19/19 09:56 PM

^^^^
Un individu lié à la mafia condamné à deux ans moins un jour

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...ia-condamne-a-deux-ans-moins-un-jour.php
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/20/19 11:00 AM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2019/06/20/le-caid-scoppa-victime-dune-ruse

A friend would have invited him to go smoke to attract him outside the hotel, where a shooter was waiting patiently

The dreaded mafioso Salvatore Scoppa may have been betrayed by a member of his close guard, who invited him to smoke outside just before being the target of a shooter last month in Laval.

The thesis that the 49-year-old caïd was the victim of such a ruse, in the best tradition of settling scores of the Italian mafia, would be seriously considered by the police, according to sources from our Office of Investigation and of the Journal .

On the evening of May 4th, Sal Scoppa participated in a family party for the first communion of one of her children, at the Sheraton Hotel in Laval. Other receptions gathering a few hundred people were held simultaneously.

t was therefore necessary to bring out this dangerous mafia to facilitate the task of the armed killer.


At 10 pm sharp, Scoppa appeared in the hotel's porch to go smoke a cigarette with an employee he also considered a friend, according to our information.

At the same time, the shooter approached and fired at his target, caught by surprise, reaching it a first time, while ignoring "the friend" at his side.

While the latter remained at the entrance as if he were watching, the shooter entered the hotel chasing Scoppa to finish him off.


The murderer emptied two magazines, hitting the victim with several projectiles on the thorax and head before fleeing in a black Ford Explorer driven by an accomplice.

According to our sources, the "friend" in question gave contradictory versions to the police when they questioned him as an eyewitness to the murder.

Clan Rizzuto

In addition, our sources claim that this witness has already worked in the Rizzuto clan, which was at loggerheads with Scoppa.

In the summer of 2015, Stefano Sollecito, then acting head of the Montreal Mafia, was registered without his knowledge by the police saying that it was necessary to "put Salvatore Scoppa away from the street" because he he trusted him more.

Another organized crime leader told Sollecito that Scoppa deserved "a bullet in the chest."

On May 27, 2016, Rocco Sollecito, father of Stefano Sollecito and faithful ally of the late godfather Vito Rizzuto, was shot dead.

The killer, who knew the whereabouts of the victim, was waiting for her in a bus shelter in front of which she had to make a mandatory stop at the wheel of her SUV.

As Le Journal reported a month ago, Scoppa was considered by the police as the main suspect of this murder, as well as those of Lorenzo Giordano and Vincenzo Spagnolo, two other relatives of the Rizzuto clan killed the same year.

The Sûreté du Québec, which is investigating the murder of Scoppa, did not confirm or comment on our information. Nobody has been apprehended yet.

As revealed by Le Journal on May 15, the murder was unfortunate for the Hells Angels as the police took the opportunity to increase the pressure on all organized crime.

Laval police chief Pierre Brochet said the crime was "unacceptable" and that he was "lucky not to lose innocents".

WHO WAS SALVATORE SCOPPA
In 2008, he was sentenced to one year in prison for extortion after participating, with several accomplices, in the kidnapping of a mafia kid who owed him more than $ 200,000.
Before dying, in 2013, the godfather Vito Rizzuto invites the fiery Caid of Calabrian origin to better get along with other mafia leaders.
On September 20, 2015, he temporarily exiles himself to Mexico after being notified by the police that rivals had put murder contracts on his head.
On February 21, 2017, he was shot by a gunman in the parking lot of a restaurant in Terrebonne, an attempted murder of which the alleged hitman Frédérick Silva is currently accused.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/20/19 08:55 PM

Seems like Scoppa was ignoring the Mafia's politics and went over his head ordering the murders of made members while he probably was not. At the time it seemed the old Rizzuto allies were slaughtered one by one in another coordinated attack on their group while it may just have been a crazy man's act. If he was acting alone, he never had much of a change to begin with. He was a sort of Giuseppe De Vito 2.0. I think take-overs will only work when it's internal. This guy seemed like an outlier who thought he could go up against anyone while high on steroids. He probably did scare the hell out of these guys for some time.

Time will tell whether he was secretely backed by others but it wouldn't suprise me if he did do this just by himself. If he was supported, he was probably being used a la Caponigro.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/21/19 12:19 PM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...complices-de-frederick-silva-arretes.php

Three alleged accomplices of Frederick Silva arrested

Three alleged accomplices of an individual whom the police consider a hitman, Frederick Silva, were arrested yesterday by investigators of the Major Crimes of the Police Department of the City of Montreal (SPVM).

The police force announced the arrest of three individuals this morning by way of press release, but did not give further details about the alleged acts. According to our information, the three men, or some of them, would have facilitated the Silva run, which lasted almost two years.

It is unclear whether the arrested suspects were released pending further investigation, or whether they will appear this afternoon at the courthouse in Montreal.

Silva was arrested last February by members of the SPVM's tactical intervention group (GTI) as he was walking a small dog near the condo where he was holed up in the Griffintown area near Old Montreal.

His run began in May 2017 when police suspected him of killing a client at a bar in downtown Montreal after an altercation.

Silva also reportedly tried to kill the mafioso Salvatore Scoppa in February 2017 in Terrebonne.

Frederick Silva is accused of both crimes, but also the murder of a 31-year-old Lavalman, Alessandro Vinci, in October 2018.

The police, however, suspect Silva of having committed a dozen murders, in particular that of Sebastien Beauchamp, a close friend of the bikers killed in broad daylight, in a busy crossroads of the district Saint-Leonard last December.

The investigation into the alleged crimes committed by Silva continues. It is led by the members of the Unsolved Major Crimes Section of the SPVM. Other arrests could follow.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/21/19 03:08 PM

^^^^
Montreal police arrest 3 people with ties to murder suspect Frédérick Silva

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/3-people-arrested-connection-to-frederick-silva-1.5184501
Posted By: PetroPirelli

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/21/19 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Originally Posted by Ciment
https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2019/05/15/les-hells-en-beau-fusil-a-cause-de-la-mafia

[snip]

A LOADED PISTOL IS SEIZED FROM A MAFIOSO
A Laval mafioso who felt his life threatened by rivals has been convicted of unlawful possession of a loaded pistol.

Steve Casale, considered a lieutenant in the clan of influential mafia leader Vittorio Mirarchi and Caid Raynald Desjardins, conceded the verdict last week at the courthouse in Montreal.

The 40-year-old man, who would dip into illegal sports betting and loan sharking, according to a survey by the SPVM, should receive his sentence next month.

Armed bodyguards

Nicknamed "Cook" in the underworld, he was reported to Montreal police two years ago by an informant who claimed that Casale feared for his life and never moved without being accompanied by armed bodyguards.

On June 13, 2017, the SPVM carried out a search of his residence in Laval and seized a Beretta-branded, 22-gauge pistol.

The same evening, the police also arrested one of his bodyguards, Francesco Catalano, armed with a semi-automatic pistol as he was leaving a bar in Little Italy. The possession of this prohibited weapon earned him a 28-month sentence.

This same Catalano had already been accused in 2008 - then whitewashed - of having participated in a kidnapping with Mafia Salvatore Scoppa. He was murdered at a family party at a Laval hotel on May 4th.

According to court documents, Steve Casale was one of the wedding guests of Vittorio Mirarchi in 2009 in the Bahamas and the wedding of Raynald Desjardins' daughter at the Mirage Golf Club in Terrebonne in 2011. He did not criminal record.

Mirarchi was convicted of plotting the murder of aspiring sponsor Salvatore Montagna with Desjardins in 2011. He has been free for a year and a half. He would always be perceived as a potential sponsor of the Montreal mafia.


Man with alleged ties to Montreal Mafia sentenced for loaded gun

https://montrealgazette.com/news/man-with-alleged-ties-to-montreal-mafia-sentenced-for-loaded-gun/


Have either of you heard of Casale before? I've been following this thread for awhile and haven't seen his name come up.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/21/19 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...complices-de-frederick-silva-arretes.php

Three alleged accomplices of Frederick Silva arrested

Three alleged accomplices of an individual whom the police consider a hitman, Frederick Silva, were arrested yesterday by investigators of the Major Crimes of the Police Department of the City of Montreal (SPVM).

The police force announced the arrest of three individuals this morning by way of press release, but did not give further details about the alleged acts. According to our information, the three men, or some of them, would have facilitated the Silva run, which lasted almost two years.

It is unclear whether the arrested suspects were released pending further investigation, or whether they will appear this afternoon at the courthouse in Montreal.

Silva was arrested last February by members of the SPVM's tactical intervention group (GTI) as he was walking a small dog near the condo where he was holed up in the Griffintown area near Old Montreal.

His run began in May 2017 when police suspected him of killing a client at a bar in downtown Montreal after an altercation.

Silva also reportedly tried to kill the mafioso Salvatore Scoppa in February 2017 in Terrebonne.

Frederick Silva is accused of both crimes, but also the murder of a 31-year-old Lavalman, Alessandro Vinci, in October 2018.

The police, however, suspect Silva of having committed a dozen murders, in particular that of Sebastien Beauchamp, a close friend of the bikers killed in broad daylight, in a busy crossroads of the district Saint-Leonard last December.

The investigation into the alleged crimes committed by Silva continues. It is led by the members of the Unsolved Major Crimes Section of the SPVM. Other arrests could follow.


Three arrested as Montreal police investigate suspected hitman

https://montrealgazette.com/news/three-arrested-as-montreal-police-investigate-suspected-hitman/
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/21/19 10:48 PM

I haven't heard of Casale either.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/21/19 10:51 PM

Originally Posted by Sonny_Black
Seems like Scoppa was ignoring the Mafia's politics and went over his head ordering the murders of made members while he probably was not. At the time it seemed the old Rizzuto allies were slaughtered one by one in another coordinated attack on their group while it may just have been a crazy man's act. If he was acting alone, he never had much of a change to begin with. He was a sort of Giuseppe De Vito 2.0. I think take-overs will only work when it's internal. This guy seemed like an outlier who thought he could go up against anyone while high on steroids. He probably did scare the hell out of these guys for some time.

Time will tell whether he was secretely backed by others but it wouldn't suprise me if he did do this just by himself. If he was supported, he was probably being used a la Caponigro.


Stefano Sollecito wanted him dead, so he had no other choice to take Rocco Sollecito out.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/22/19 12:06 AM

Originally Posted by Ciment
I haven't heard of Casale either.


There are some Casale's in the NY mafia. Bonannos and Gambinos.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/22/19 12:42 AM

Originally Posted by Ciment
https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2019/06/18/incendie-criminel-dans-un-commerce-de-cote-des-neiges

The beauty salon of a man known to police for his links with the mafia was destroyed by the flames

Recently opened, a beauty salon in Montreal, owned by a close couple of the late godfather of the mafia, was destroyed by arson Tuesday.

The call to 911 was made at 2:40 am by a passerby who saw the flames springing from the Avanti Le Spa store, located at the corner of Jean-Talon Street West and Décarie Boulevard, in the Côte-des-Monts neighborhood. -Neiges.

It took a little less than an hour for the twenty or so firefighters present to control the fire, said Matthew Griffith, head of the fire prevention section at the Montreal Fire Department.

The trade is not considered a total loss, but the very significant damage is valued at $ 225,000.

When the building was secured, the first firefighters to set foot inside did not take long to notice something was wrong.

Traces of flammable liquid were discovered, confirmed the Police Department of the City of Montreal (SPVM), to which the file was quickly transferred.

The criminal fire department of the SPVM has spent the scene combing for many hours on Tuesday, to go back to the culprit.

Images of security cameras installed on the scene were also viewed and could help investigators find the suspect.

The company Avanti The Spa belongs to Micheline Gallo, the wife of Antonio "Tony" Papa.

The branch of Jean-Talon West is the third and last of the banner and was inaugurated just two months ago.

The 71-year-old, well known in the Montreal business community, was, by his own admission, a close friend of the late Montreal Mafia godfather, Vito Rizzuto.

He was also very close to Moreno Gallo, an influential mafioso murdered in 2013 in Acapulco, Mexico.

According to our information, everything indicates that the fire was lit to send a message to the septuagenarian.

And this message, we can not be clearer.

The suspect at the origin of the fire was careful to spray several corners of the living room flammable liquid, presumably for the purpose that it is a total loss.

According to our sources, the investigators suspect that Tony Papa is probably the person targeted by this criminal act.

But they will have to determine the precise reason.

Without explanation

Contacted Tuesday by Le Journal , the Papa family says they have received no threat that could explain such a gesture and has no idea who could be behind the crime.

As the fire was lit in the middle of the night, the living room was closed and no one was injured.

The investigation is continuing and the police have not made any arrests for the moment.

- With the collaboration of Jean-François Cloutier and Félix Séguin, Investigation Office


It was believed Tony Papa was an informer.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/27/19 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
^^^^
Meurtre au café Hillside: l'accusé Lufiau évite le pire
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...illside-laccuse-lufiau-evite-le-pire.php

Tué par erreur: le deuxième accusé aussi coupable
https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2019/06/11/tue-par-erreur--le-deuxieme-accuse-aussi-coupable


Meurtre du café Hillside: «Une vie enlevée injustement»
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...hillside-une-vie-enlevee-injustement.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/27/19 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Originally Posted by Ciment
Originally Posted by Hollander
Contraband Tobacco: Part of the profits went to the Violi clan

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/j...s-profits-serait-allee-au-clan-violi.php


This ends the speculation about whether the Violi's sons from Hamilton, were involved in Montreal's organized crime affairs.
Domenico Agostino mentioned in the article is a close associate of Sergio Piccirilli.
Sergio was the one who join forces with the D'Amico's.
The Ontario clans did back opponents of the Rizzuto's.


Pretty old school those cigarettes more lucrative than coke lol. I recall Sergio was close to the natives pretty tough themselves.


Contrebande de tabac: 300 millions auraient échappé à l'État

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...00-millions-auraient-echappe-a-letat.php
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/03/19 04:30 PM

https://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2019/07/03/tony-accurso-poursuivit-par-ses-propres-avocats-1

Tony Accurso sued by his own lawyers

The fallen entrepreneur Tony Accurso faces a new lawsuit, this time by his own lawyers who claim $ 485,000 for unpaid fees.

"Since [last February], no payment of fees has been paid," laments the firm De Granpré Chait, in a civil suit made public Wednesday at the courthouse in Montreal, which targets both the former tycoon of construction and its former company Simard Beaudry Construction.

Since 2012, Accurso is entangled in several court cases. If he was acquitted of breach of trust for having helped the former Mayor of Mascouche Richard Marcotte, he was found guilty of taking part in the contract rebate system in Laval, with the former mayor Gilles Vaillancourt.


If he appealed the latter conviction, Accurso must still be tried in another case in Montreal where he is accused of plotting with a Canada Revenue Agency official.
e Granpré Chait is responsible for this file, according to the court document.

Pipeline
In the civil suit, the team of lawyers explained that they had been assured that Accurso and Simard Beaudry Cosntruction would pay certain costs in the case, where there are several accused.

"The fees would be borne by the defendants due to the fact that the work on the files benefited the defendants as part of their own judicial system," reads the court document.

In 2017, the law firm received a first payment of $ 40,000. Then, a few months later, another check for $ 271,000 was paid by Accurso. But since then, the tycoon of fallen construction no longer pays, he laments in the pursuit.

"The defendants have reiterated a few times that the payment [...] would take place upon receipt of proceeds from the sale of a pipeline in western Canada belonging to Simard Beaudry Construction," says the law firm.

However, despite this sale that would have occurred at the beginning of the year, Accurso would have paid nothing, despite several promises reassuring.

Faced with this situation, De Granpré Chait had no choice but to go to court.

Unless an amicable agreement is reached, the application will be presented shortly to a judge of the Superior Court of Quebec.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/05/19 11:34 AM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...els-mexicains-pourrait-toucher-le-quebec

A wave of settlements linked to the dangerous Mexican drug cartels could hit Quebec and the rest of Canada.

This is the warning given to police by the Criminal Intelligence Service Canada (CISC) in a report on the current state of the narcotics market that Le Journal has obtained.

We learn that the murder of Montrealer Philipos Kollaros, shot in La Petite-Patrie last fall, was not an isolated act.

Kollaros was an ex-client of Sinaloa's cartel leader, Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman.

"An abnormal number of high-level cocaine importers in Canada who have links to Mexican cartels ... have been recently killed in Mexico and Canada," reports the Royal Canadian Mounted Police agency.
CISC did not specify the exact number of victims.

In addition to this Quebecker, at least three drug traffickers from western Canada have been shot dead for 11 months while in Mexico.
This series of events suggests to the SCRC that Mexican cartels are "trying to eliminate competition" or restructuring their "operational cells in Canada" by getting rid of unwanted associates.
"If this is confirmed, we can expect an increase in violent incidents," warns the police agency that informs the country's law enforcement agencies.

CISC recalls that Mexican and Colombian cartels are responsible for "almost all cocaine" imported by Canadian organized crime.

The influence of Mexican cartels on Canada's drug market will not diminish, despite last winter's conviction of El Chapo for exporting more than $ 14 billion worth of drugs to the United States.

On the contrary, in addition to cocaine, "Mexican cartel officials are exporting more and more methamphetamine, heroin and fentanyl to Canada," says SCRC.

Kollaros, who was killed in a café on Beaubien Street, had privileged contacts that enabled him to negotiate the importation of massive amounts of cocaine with the Sinaloa cartel, according to our Investigation Bureau.

He and his accomplices, however, had been the targets of major police operations and had seized several hundred pounds of drugs.
At the El Chapo trial in New York, it was learned that the latter also wanted to liquidate a Montreal associate real estate broker, Stephen Tello, who was suspected of stealing narcodollars from the cartel.

But Tello was arrested for importing drugs and sentenced to 15 years in Toronto in May 2018.

SOME IMPORTERS KILLED
December 5, 2018

Jodh Singh Manj of Vancouver, a member of a gang called United Nations, is shot while leaving a gymnasium in Mexico City.

November 6, 2018

Philipos Kollaros, 38, an importer of cocaine linked to Sinaloa's Mexican cartel, is murdered at Café Cubano, in the neighborhood of La Petite-Patrie, Montreal.

August 24, 2018

Nabil Alkhalil, also of Vancouver and associated with the gang of drug traffickers Wolf Pack, dies riddled with bullets at a car dealership in Mexico City.

August 17, 2018

Giuseppe Bugge, a close associate of the British Columbia Hells Angels, is shot dead in a shopping center in Guadalajara, western Mexico.

Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/09/19 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Originally Posted by Hollander
Originally Posted by Ciment
Originally Posted by Hollander
Contraband Tobacco: Part of the profits went to the Violi clan

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/j...s-profits-serait-allee-au-clan-violi.php


This ends the speculation about whether the Violi's sons from Hamilton, were involved in Montreal's organized crime affairs.
Domenico Agostino mentioned in the article is a close associate of Sergio Piccirilli.
Sergio was the one who join forces with the D'Amico's.
The Ontario clans did back opponents of the Rizzuto's.


Pretty old school those cigarettes more lucrative than coke lol. I recall Sergio was close to the natives pretty tough themselves.


Contrebande de tabac: 300 millions auraient échappé à l'État

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...00-millions-auraient-echappe-a-letat.php


According to the article to which I've linked below, Domenico Agostino passed away one week ago today. Read the part of the article below the subheading "Projet Olios-Médian," as I suspect the online newspaper somehow mixed two stories together.

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...es-dans-les-hopitaux-en-milieu-rural.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/09/19 12:40 PM

^^^^
Below is a proper link to just the story about Domenico Agostino's death:

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...uelques-jours-apres-avoir-ete-accuse.php
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/09/19 03:15 PM

Thanks antimafia. Interesting article by Renaud. So Domenico suggested that NY ordered the murder of Sal Montagna?

The people of New York believe in the code. Not only did they kill a capo, but a capo of a large family, "wrote Agostino on November 28, 2011 to an individual named in the Clemenza investigation, Hansley Lee Joseph

Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/10/19 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Thanks antimafia. Interesting article by Renaud. So Domenico suggested that NY ordered the murder of Sal Montagna?

The people of New York believe in the code. Not only did they kill a capo, but a capo of a large family, "wrote Agostino on November 28, 2011 to an individual named in the Clemenza investigation, Hansley Lee Joseph



I think you misinterpret. With "they" he meant whomever killed Montagna at the time and then he implies that the ones who did it would be in trouble because they killed a capo of a large family. It is interesting that he refers to Montagna as a capo, but perhaps he meant capo in the general sense.
Posted By: m2w

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/10/19 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by Sonny_Black
I think you misinterpret. With "they" he meant whomever killed Montagna at the time and then he implies that the ones who did it would be in trouble because they killed a capo of a large family. It is interesting that he refers to Montagna as a capo, but perhaps he meant capo in the general sense.


yes, i think you're right, he meant this... and it confirms the bonanno's have still a big influence over montreal
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/10/19 09:26 PM

Yeah after reading it again I think you right Sonny. Any info about his cousin Franco Albanese? What part of Calabria do they come from?
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/13/19 03:17 AM

Menaces de mort contre un procureur, des avocats et un juge

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-un-procureur-des-avocats-et-un-juge.php
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/14/19 12:47 AM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2019/07/13/meurtre-a-laval

Murder of a man known to police in Laval

A 35-year-old man was shot dead early Saturday morning in the Chomedey neighborhood of Laval.

According to our information, this is Michail Michakis, who was known to the police for a recent history of narcotics.

Several shots were heard at approximately 0:45 am on Phil Watson Street, near the intersection with Jacques-Plante Street.

When the police arrived, the victim was found on the ground in the parking lot of his residence. His death was found on the spot.

An investigation was opened and witnesses were questioned by the Laval police, then the file was transferred to the Sûreté du Québec because of the alleged links of the victim with the organized crime.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/14/19 01:01 PM

Michakis was close to Philippos Kollaros, a late cocaine importer and a client of the Sinaloa cartel.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/14/19 01:26 PM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2019/07/14/encore-la-trace-du-crime-organise

According to our sources, the individual had links with members of the Italian mafia as a drug distributor.

Michakis pleaded guilty to drug charges in Laval in February. He had been sentenced to 6 months in prison.

His murder occurred just steps from his former home on Eliot Avenue where neighbors knew he was engaged in shady activities.


"The police came a few times and then, two years ago, they took him on board and we never saw him again. His condo was sold 8 to 10 months ago, "says resident Constantino Retsnas.

Michakis was also close to Philippos Kollaros, a late cocaine importer and a client of the dangerous Mexican Sinaloa cartel formerly run by Joaquin Guzman, aka El Chapo.

Violence

The Journal reported on July 5 growing concern among law enforcement that violence associated with Latin American organized crime is gaining momentum in the country.

In a report, the Criminal Intelligence Service of Canada (CISC) reported that "an abnormal number of high-level cocaine importers in Canada ... have recently been killed in Mexico and Canada."

In particular, the SCRC identified Kollaros' murder in Montreal last fall as a sign of this surge in settling scores.

In Laval, out of six homicides this year, this one is the fourth to bear the signature of organized crime.

In February, 35-year-old Eliott Blanchard, a methamphetamine producer, was shot in a parking lot.

Another coke importer, Ray Kahno, had a similar spell a few days later.

Finally, in May, Salvatore Scoppa, the brother of a chieftain of the Montreal mafia, was being shot at the Sheraton Hotel, in front of his family.

The murder of the mafioso in full reception led the Laval police, in collaboration with the Sûreté du Québec (SQ) and the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, to go to war against the actors of the underworld.

Yesterday, the police spent the day in the area gathering clues.

The investigation was transferred to the SQ because of the links with organized crime.

By late evening, no suspects had been apprehended.

-With the collaboration of Stéphane Sinclair
Posted By: horse_face

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/15/19 07:35 PM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Yeah after reading it again I think you right Sonny. Any info about his cousin Franco Albanese? What part of Calabria do they come from?


Mammola, Reggio, Calabria
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/16/19 06:39 PM

Originally Posted by horse_face
Originally Posted by Hollander
Yeah after reading it again I think you right Sonny. Any info about his cousin Franco Albanese? What part of Calabria do they come from?


Mammola, Reggio, Calabria


Thanks also the comune of the Cotronis it borders Siderno.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/28/19 02:39 AM

Originally Posted by Ciment
http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/j...uitte-davoir-decharge-une-arme-a-feu.php

A man acquitted of unloading a firearm

he masked assailant who fired in daylight in the foot of businessman Tony Elian last March in downtown Montreal is still on the run. A man detained for six months for this crime has recently been acquitted of the most serious charges against him, since his presence on the scene has finally proved "improbable".

Tony Elian, owner of a luxury men's clothing store on Peel Street, was hit on the foot on March 12 at about 11:40 am. In his escape, the gunman had abandoned a 12 gauge rifle on the sidewalk. in front of the Georgio Gruppa Roma shop. The police believed they had snatched the shooter a few days later, when Kevin Buehler II was charged with unloading a weapon with the intention of hurting Tony Elian and committing a robbery using a firearm. fire.

But a video showing Kevin Buehler II moments later in Saint-Viateur Street, in another part of the city, made "improbable, although not impossible" that he is the masked shooter, explained the prosecutor of the Crown, M e Jean-François Roy, 21 September 2018.

Kevin Buehler II was not, however, fully cleared in this case. As his fingerprints - and those of two men - were found on the pair of ski goggles worn by the assailant, the accused pleaded guilty to disguise with intent. He was acquitted of the other three counts.

The 29-year-old admitted to providing these glasses to an "individual" involved in a conflict with the victim. In addition, Mr. Buehler was "aware of a serious conflict between individuals and the victim in this case," said M e Martin Subak, defense lawyer presenting the summary of facts.

Although there is no evidence that the accused knew the circumstances of the crime, he should have known that this pair of glasses would be used when committing a crime, Subak said.

RELEASED

With virtually no criminal history, Kevin Buehler II was released the same day by Justice Suzanne Custom two weeks ago. He had served the equivalent of nine months of pre-trial detention since his arrest.

Tony Elian seemed targeted by enemies in the months leading up to this attack. The Police Department of the City of Montreal had to defuse a suspicious package last December in front of his shop. A Molotov cocktail had also been thrown at his establishment a year earlier and his vehicle was set on fire in the entrance to his home in Westmount. Tony Elian attended the funeral of former mob boss Vito Rizzuto in December 2013, according to TVA News.


Montréal: la tête d’un marchand de vêtements de luxe mise à prix

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...archand-de-vetements-de-luxe-mise-a-prix
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/30/19 05:36 AM

Loto-Québec remet 30 000$ à un caïd associé à la mafia

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2019/07/30/loto-quebec-remet-30000-a-un-caid-associe-a-la-mafia
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/02/19 11:32 PM

En prison pour un incendie criminel chez un homme d’affaires:

https://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2019/08...-homme-daffaires-aux-relations-mafieuses
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/08/19 11:19 AM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2019/08/08/un-homme-blesse-par-balle-dans-saint-leonard

A man shot in Saint-Léonard

MONTREAL - A 46-year-old man is in critical condition after being wounded by a firearm on Wednesday night in the Saint-Léonard borough of Montreal.

According to the Police Department of the City of Montreal (SPVM), a call was placed at 911, around 1:40, to indicate that a seriously injured man had presented himself at the reception of a hotel located at the corner of Jarry Street and Lacordaire Boulevard.

When the police arrived at the scene, they found the man with upper body injuries "similar to firearm injuries," said Véronique Dubuc, spokesperson for the SPVM.

The victim, aged 46, was taken to hospital where her condition is considered critical.

"The man is known to the police in terms of narcotics," said Ms. Dubuc.

A security perimeter was erected on site to allow investigators to learn more about the circumstances surrounding this event.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/08/19 12:20 PM

^^^^
Tentative de meurtre dans Saint-Léonard: un chef de gang ciblé

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-saint-leonard-un-chef-de-gang-cible.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/10/19 04:41 PM

Cross-posting.

——————-

Journalist Félix Séguin tweeted just a few minutes ago, in French, that Giuseppe Focarazzo was drugged and “volé” — I think the latter means robbed as opposed to kidnapped but I’m not sure, as volé means stolen.

https://twitter.com/felixseguin/status/1160224691509956608?s=20

Felix Seguin
@felixseguin

Le mafieux québécois Giuseppe Focarazzo à été drogué et volé

12:21 PM · Aug 10, 2019
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/10/19 05:29 PM

^^^^
Un influent mafieux montréalais drogué et volé à Miami:

https://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2019/08/10/un-influent-mafieux-montrealais-drogue-et-vole-a-miami
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/11/19 10:39 PM

^^^^
Woman Accused of Drugging, Stealing From Man She Met at South Beach Hotel | NBC 6 South Florida

https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local...-Met-at-South-Beach-Hotel-508605911.html
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/29/19 09:21 PM

Alleged Montreal Mafia leader unable to meet parole officers

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...a-leader-unable-to-meet-parole-officers/
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/30/19 06:48 PM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2019/08/30/un-motocycliste-abattu-en-pleine-rue-a-boucherville

A man named Ivan Silva was just killed while riding is bike. He was an important person in Canada’s organized crime.
Posted By: MegaMikejr

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/30/19 08:56 PM

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...ath-in-bouchervilles-commercial-district
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/30/19 09:31 PM

This was the attack by Silva in the bar.

[Linked Image]
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/13/19 05:17 AM

An Italian restaurant in Saint-Eustache was the target of arson on the night of Wednesday to Thursday in Saint-Eustache, a northern suburb of Montreal.

"We do have indications that it's criminal," said Detective Lt. Audrey Bouchard, spokesperson for the Saint-Eustache Police Service.

At around 4am, one or more suspects smashed the front window of Fellini restaurant, rue Dubois, before launching an incendiary device.

Passersby, however, managed to extinguish the flames before they spread.

Damage to the building was therefore limited.

No one has been injured and no arrests have yet been made in this case.

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...eustache-vise-par-un-incendie-criminel-1
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/14/19 04:15 PM

Un coup de feu tiré près du Solid Gold

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-coup-de-feu-tire-pres-du-solid-gold.php
Posted By: pmac

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/16/19 12:23 AM

This is the never ending war its got to end by page 100 cause Canada sucks
Posted By: thebigfella

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/16/19 02:48 AM

How would you determine who won or who lost?
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/16/19 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by pmac
This is the never ending war its got to end by page 100 cause Canada sucks


Canada is the best mafia story going on right now. I say it hits 200 before the violence ends
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/16/19 10:50 PM

A 26-year-old man died Monday morning after being shot to death in an apartment block in the borough of LaSalle.

Police said the incident occurred at about 8:30 a.m. in a six-unit apartment building on Bédard St. near Dollard Ave. Multiple 911 calls were received concerning a man who had been injured in the upper body by gunfire. Witnesses interviewed by investigators said several suspects were seen fleeing the scene.

Police said the victim was known to them. No motive has been established for the slaying and no arrests have been made.

A crime scene has been set up and Bédard St. is closed between Dollard Ave. and Clément St.

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...e-street-leaves-man-in-serious-condition
Posted By: mike68

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/17/19 05:05 PM

Originally Posted by dixiemafia
Originally Posted by pmac
This is the never ending war its got to end by page 100 cause Canada sucks


Canada is the best mafia story going on right now. I say it hits 200 before the violence ends



Another hit in Toronto last night too. It's never ending. They need their own version of a RICO statute for starters.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/19/19 12:56 PM

Attempted murder in Hochelaga
QMI Agency| Published on September 19, 2019 at 05:27 - Update at 05:39

A 46-year-old man was seriously injured after an attempted gun murder late Wednesday night in the Mercier-Hochelaga-Maisonneuve borough of Montreal.

The police were alerted around 11:30 pm

According to preliminary reports, at least two suspects entered an apartment on Baldwin Street, near Hochelaga Street, which contained two people.

"The suspects seemed to be looking for something," said Manuel Couture, spokesperson for the Montreal Police Service (SPVM).

"Not finding what they wanted, they would have fired at a victim, a 46-year-old man, before leaving," he added.

The man was taken to a hospital with a serious upper body injury. He has since remained in a stable state.

The second victim would not have been hurt.

No arrests were made.

A crime scene was erected on site to allow investigators and the handler to learn more about the circumstances surrounding this event.

https://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2019/09/19/tentative-de-meurtre-dans-hochelaga-1
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/23/19 11:29 AM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...s-florissante-dans-un-libre-echange-.php

Article about the different mafia cells, and how they making more money than before.

Also, talling about the fact that the Hells Angels are the main force in the province of Quebec.
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/23/19 01:03 PM

Originally Posted by Blackmobs
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...s-florissante-dans-un-libre-echange-.php

Article about the different mafia cells, and how they making more money than before.

Also, talling about the fact that the Hells Angels are the main force in the province of Quebec.


Not only that, but for me, it puts all the Bonnano control in Canada stuff to bed for good..... they would be one of many criminal factions.....
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/23/19 01:05 PM

In fact, the article didnt mention em at all....
Posted By: horse_face

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/23/19 02:03 PM

English version of the same article

https://www.en24.news/2019/09/more-flourishing-in-free-trade.html
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/23/19 09:41 PM

Originally Posted by Blackmobs
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...s-florissante-dans-un-libre-echange-.php

Article about the different mafia cells, and how they making more money than before.

Also, talling about the fact that the Hells Angels are the main force in the province of Quebec.


Great article..
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/28/19 02:20 PM

Some quotes from Renaud’s article in the Lapresse.

« Six years after the death of Vito Rizzuto, the Montreal mafia has lost its supremacy at the hands of the Hells Angels. »

« The Hells Angels have control in Quebec but also in Montreal. What we realize is that all other strains of organized crime are accountable to the Hells Angels, "says Chief Inspector Guy Lapointe of the Sûreté du Québec »

« Most of the mafia clans have bent their heads in front of influential Hells Angels, but they gravitate and do business around and with them. Drug importation, drug trafficking, money laundering and transportation, sports betting, fraud or recycling with cryptocurrency, prostitution, violent crime, etc. ; mafiosi and bikers exchange services between them »

What do y’all think about those quotes in the article?
How do y’all think the relation between the mafia and the hells is in the province? Will it stay like that?
Posted By: m2w

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/28/19 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by Blackmobs
Some quotes from Renaud’s article in the Lapresse.

« Six years after the death of Vito Rizzuto, the Montreal mafia has lost its supremacy at the hands of the Hells Angels. »

« The Hells Angels have control in Quebec but also in Montreal. What we realize is that all other strains of organized crime are accountable to the Hells Angels, "says Chief Inspector Guy Lapointe of the Sûreté du Québec »

« Most of the mafia clans have bent their heads in front of influential Hells Angels, but they gravitate and do business around and with them. Drug importation, drug trafficking, money laundering and transportation, sports betting, fraud or recycling with cryptocurrency, prostitution, violent crime, etc. ; mafiosi and bikers exchange services between them »

What do y’all think about those quotes in the article?
How do y’all think the relation between the mafia and the hells is in the province? Will it stay like that?


in montreal italian mafia is by far more connected with politicians and businessmen than bikers, maybe they have more influence in quebec as a whole, but sure not in montreal
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/28/19 04:08 PM

The bikers has changed alot from the 90s.
I wouldn’t be surpise that the bikers has as many contacts in politics now than the mafia.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/28/19 04:11 PM

But the force of the mafia is really their connections.
Because nobody is scared of the mob now in montreal.
Posted By: LuanKuci

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/28/19 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by Blackmobs
But the force of the mafia is really their connections.
Because nobody is scared of the mob now in montreal.


Problem is that there is no such thing as the “mob”.

That’s the whole point of the article.

Some clans/crime families are much better off than others and thus more influential, relevant and intimidating.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/28/19 04:46 PM

Well more like the mob has changed. And theirs no more a pyramid hierarchy.

But the clans/ families are still there.
Posted By: m2w

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/28/19 09:46 PM

Originally Posted by Blackmobs
The bikers has changed alot from the 90s.
I wouldn’t be surpise that the bikers has as many contacts in politics now than the mafia.


do you have some proof of connections between bikers and politicians? i've never found one, unlike the italian mafia, for that reason the mafia is by far more powerful in greater montreal
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/29/19 12:43 AM

The Quebec bikers and also the Amsterdam HA are like the mafia.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/29/19 01:40 AM

Hells Angels are now gangsters and they have connections all over the world.
Posted By: LuanKuci

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/29/19 08:58 AM

Originally Posted by Blackmobs
But the clans/ families are still there


Well...yeah...of course...who ever thought otherwise?

Originally Posted by Blackmobs
Well more like the mob has changed. And theirs no more a pyramid hierarchy.


It seems like that at the moment, even if I have my doubts. If that’s the case then it’s a matter of time before a new regime is formed.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/01/19 10:40 AM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...t-moreno-gallo-enlevee-et-sequestree.php

They kidnapped the widow of Moreno Gallo.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/01/19 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by m2w
Originally Posted by Blackmobs
The bikers has changed alot from the 90s.
I wouldn’t be surpise that the bikers has as many contacts in politics now than the mafia.


do you have some proof of connections between bikers and politicians? i've never found one, unlike the italian mafia, for that reason the mafia is by far more powerful in greater montreal



Well you had the case of Boisclair and an associate of him.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/02/19 02:50 AM

Originally Posted by Blackmobs


The Montreal Gazette article to which I've linked below essentially piggybacks on the French-language article to which Blackmobs linked.

Woman who escaped kidnappers is a Montreal mobster's widow: report

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...widow-of-a-montreal-mafia-figure-report/
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/02/19 10:01 AM

I didn't realize Moreno Gallo was murdered in 2013, three years to the day after Nicolo Rizzuto was killed.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/03/19 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by Hollander
I didn't realize Moreno Gallo was murdered in 2013, three years to the day after Nicolo Rizzuto was killed.


They were like 5 days shy of the same when Di Maulo was gunned down.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/04/19 07:10 PM

Attempted murder in Montreal's St-Leonard district: a 34-year-old man was hit with several firearm projectiles. He was sitting in his car when the shooter burst. The murder weapon with a silencer was left on the sidewalk.

https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/man-34-shot-in-st-leonard-driveway
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/04/19 07:54 PM

^^^^
Based on the street, as well as what I think is the street number, the victim could be somehow connected to the Armenis. However, according to the white pages, there is also a Del Balso and a Sciascia living on that street.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/05/19 01:06 PM

^^^^
According to a tweet by Agence QMI journalist/photographer Maxime Deland, who was at the scene, the shooting victim is an Aldo Terlizzese. Terlizzese is not known to police per Deland.

https://twitter.com/MaxDelandQMI/status/1180261832768000001?s=20

Maxime Deland @MaxDelandQMI

Aldo Terlizzese, un homme de 34 ans qui ne serait pas connu des policiers. Il a été atteint plusieurs fois aux bras, vraisemblablement en tentant de se protéger.

7:22 PM · Oct 4, 2019
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/05/19 01:09 PM

^^^^
And Deland had his article published this past Thursday:

Criblé de balles en plein jour dans Saint-Léonard

https://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2019/10/03/crible-de-balles-en-plein-jour-dans-saint-leonard
Posted By: LuanKuci

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/05/19 07:44 PM

Today’s St-Leonard is like Bensonhurst in the 1980’s...
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/06/19 08:52 PM

Attempted murder in Lachine: the victim in critical condition

A 28-year-old man, struck by at least one bullet on Saturday morning in Lachine, is in critical condition, the City of Montreal Police Department said.

He was hit by "at least one projectile in the upper body" around 4:00 am in the Lachine borough of Montreal, said SPVM officer Jean-Pierre Brabant. The victim was found in a parking lot on Camille Street, near the Ville Saint-Pierre Shooting Club.

A perimeter was established and investigators and forensic identification technicians were called on site.

On Saturday morning, no suspects had been arrested in connection with the event.

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...ine-la-victime-dans-un-etat-critique.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/08/19 12:28 PM

Incendies criminels dans LaSalle : la police demande l’aide de la population

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...olice-demande-laide-de-la-population.php
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/13/19 12:07 PM

"We're lucky there were no casualties"
ANTOINE LACROIX
Saturday, October 12, 2019 23:05
UPDATE Saturday, October 12, 2019 23:05
Experts deplore the poor response of the Montreal police to the violent shooting in a crowded restaurant on Tuesday night, which miraculously did not kill.

"Publicly, they should go out and say that is unacceptable," says Paul Laurier, former investigator of the Sûreté du Québec. [ With the published video-shock ], they should be on all the stands this weekend to say that it does not pass. "

Tuesday night, three shooters with little regard for innocent people sitting in the Resto-Café SB, in the Saint-Leonard district, have fired more than a dozen times in the direction of a man. According to our information, this is an individual linked to a street gang sector.

For the criminologist Maria Mourani, the trio of suspects performed a "very amateurish" job, and it is a "miracle" that no one has been reached as a collateral victim.

"We are lucky that there have been no victims, said Ms. Mourani, who does not see a contract performance. It seems to me rather a settling of accounts, of people who know each other. Usually, they will not shoot everywhere through the windows. They will rather be very close to the target, at close range. "

heading

She gives as examples of "real contracts" the shootings that occurred in May in public places and targeted criminals: in Laval, where the Mafia Salvatore Scoppa had been killed, and in the Quartier DIX30 of Brossard, where the victim was Éric -Francis De Souza.

"Laval's answer was perfect. They had reacted strongly by saying that for them, it is zero tolerance for settling accounts in public, "said Maria Mourani.

"The best response is to send the message that criminals are going to be under surveillance and that they are better off being quiet [...] because if you let them go, it can open the door. replicas and a loss of control, "she adds.

Paul Laurier recalls that at the time of the biker war, where the young Daniel Desrochers had lost his life in a bomb attack, the police replica was immediate with the formation of a specialized squad.

"The pressure started to rise, we showed that there was no forgiveness for that. Today, the new generation no longer has a code of honor. And it was clearly low-level "hitmen", he lamented.

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2019/10/12/on-est-chanceux-quil-ny-ait-pas-eu-de-victimes
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/13/19 01:28 PM

Arrêt des poursuites dans l’opération Magot-Mastiff

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...suites-dans-loperation-magot-mastiff.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/16/19 03:42 PM

Huge news, which I was alerted to by a post I just saw elsewhere.

Several law-enforcement agencies in Quebec have solved the murders of Rocco Sollecito, Lorenzo Giordano, and the two Falduto brothers.

Résolution de quatre meurtres reliés au crime organisé

https://www.sq.gouv.qc.ca/communiques/resolution-de-quatre-meurtres-relies-au-crime-organise/
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/16/19 03:48 PM

^^^^
[Linked Image]
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/16/19 04:05 PM

^^^^
According to Radio-Canada reporter Pascal Robidas,

1. the Sûreté du Québec (province's police force) has indicated that Salvatore Scoppa's murder was retaliation for his having ordered the four murders, and

2. the SQ had found the motorcycle used by two of the shooters.

I don't know when the motorcycle was found, especially in light of the fact that last month, the SQ had published photos for the first time since Sollecito was killed, including a picture of two unidentified people on the motorcycle.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/16/19 04:20 PM

^^^^
Quatre meurtres de mafieux finalement résolus:

https://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2019/10/16/quatre-meurtres-de-mafieux-finalement-resolus


La police arrête de présumés tueurs issus du crime organisé

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...sumes-tueurs-issus-du-crime-organise.php
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/16/19 05:47 PM

This is just the start they will now also solve other murders. Is someone talking?

Quebec provincial police make arrests in 4 Mafia killings
SQ says killings happened amid struggle for power and an old Montreal Mafia conflict

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/4-arrested-in-mafia-deaths-1.5322714
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/16/19 07:20 PM

^^^^
4 arrested in 4 Mafia killings that targeted Rizzuto clan

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...ns-lead-to-eight-raids-and-four-arrests/
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/16/19 07:36 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
^^^^
According to Radio-Canada reporter Pascal Robidas,

1. the Sûreté du Québec (province's police force) has indicated that Salvatore Scoppa's murder was retaliation for his having ordered the four murders, and

2. the SQ had found the motorcycle used by two of the shooters.

I don't know when the motorcycle was found, especially in light of the fact that last month, the SQ had published photos for the first time since Sollecito was killed, including a picture of two unidentified people on the motorcycle.


Radio-Canada has an updated article online that states the four murders were ordered by Jonathan Massari.

Quatre meurtres mafieux résolus par la SQ

https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvell...i-scoppa-viau-sollecito-falduto-vincenzo
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/16/19 08:15 PM

Thanks anti, this is big. Guy Dion charged with the murders of the Falduto brothers is a local fire chief !

"We are really surprised to hear news like this," said Mayor of Saint-Jude Yves de Bellefeuille, in a telephone interview. We did not expect that. Guy Dion, we've known him for a long time, he was a pretty "low profile" guy. But it proves that you never really know the people you think you know."

Guy Dion was immediately suspended on pay and the municipality indicated that she would soon be appointing an Acting Fire Chief.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/17/19 02:15 PM

Four arrested in four Mafia killings that targeted Rizzuto clan
https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...ns-lead-to-eight-raids-and-four-arrests/ [NB: This updated article has more details than the original.]


Arrestations pour des meurtres liés à la mafia : les présumés tueurs piégés par une taupe
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...presumes-tueurs-pieges-par-une-taupe.php


Commando de la mafia piégé
https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2019/10/17/commando-de-la-mafia-piege
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/17/19 09:46 PM

^^^^
Daniel Renaud has updated his article -- see link below.

Projet Préméditer : la taupe aurait comploté avec les accusés
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...upe-aurait-complote-avec-les-accuses.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/18/19 03:18 PM

^^^^
Trois mois pour préparer leurs coups

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2019/10/17/le-commando-de-la-mafia-dans-le-box-des-accuses
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/21/19 04:00 PM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...chef-de-clan-andrew-scoppa-assassine.php

Andrew Scoppa just got wacked
Posted By: housepainter

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/21/19 04:09 PM

After last weeks arrests, that didn't take long. I'd expect some of those arrested to start talking pretty quickly out of fear.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/21/19 05:47 PM

Man slain in Pierrefonds lot was Mafia-linked Andrea Scoppa: police source
https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...ool-of-blood-in-pierrefonds-parking-lot/


The alleged Mafia leader Andrew Scoppa was killed in Pierrefonds
http://ctv.news/KrhX29Y


Le mafioso Andrew Scoppa tué d’une balle à la tête
https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2019/10/21/un-homme-abattu-en-plein-jour-dans-louest-de-montreal (by Éric Thibault)


Link below is to photos uploaded to Twitter by Maxime Deland, a colleague of Thibault's.

https://twitter.com/MaxDelandQMI/status/1186287544612339712?s=20
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/21/19 06:08 PM

^^^^
Video link:

Pierrefonds: Assassinat de Andrew Scoppa / Mafioso shot dead at restaurant 10-21-2019

https://the4kguy.com/video/rf9njf7s...fioso-shot-dead-at-restaurant-10-21-2019
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/21/19 06:16 PM

^^^^
Man found dead in Pierrefonds parking lot, police say

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/pierrefonds-man-found-shot-police-1.5328644
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/21/19 06:19 PM

^^^^
Man shot dead in Pierrefonds parking lot is Andrea Scoppa: police sources

https://globalnews.ca/news/6059334/man-shot-dead-pierrefonds-parking-lot/
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/21/19 06:25 PM

^^^^
Le chef mafieux Andrew Scoppa assassiné

https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/1354301/pierrefonds-homme-abattu-stationnement-cadavre
Posted By: housepainter

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/21/19 07:57 PM

You've got to wonder, with the recent news from last week... why was he keeping up with the regular routines like the gym? Wouldn't you be in hiding? No hired bodyguard? Why so sloppy?
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/21/19 08:36 PM

Originally Posted by housepainter
You've got to wonder, with the recent news from last week... why was he keeping up with the regular routines like the gym? Wouldn't you be in hiding? No hired bodyguard? Why so sloppy?


Keeps suprising me too. Either he didn't expect it or he chose to accept his fate. Or perhaps he didn't want to raise any suspicion or appear weak.
Posted By: mr_white

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/21/19 08:38 PM

Were the Falduto brothers the shooters for the Scoppas in the Sollecito and Giordano hits, then double -crossed and killed themselves by the Scoppas? Seems like they were clearly Scoppa crew members...
Posted By: horse_face

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/21/19 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by housepainter
You've got to wonder, with the recent news from last week... why was he keeping up with the regular routines like the gym? Wouldn't you be in hiding? No hired bodyguard? Why so sloppy?


bodyguards are no deterrents, just potential collateral damage. Cuntrera's bodyguard was blown away with the old man. Ducarme Joseph's gunned down in the Flawnego hit. Andrew went like his bro, Magi and Ducarme Joseph who all knew they were targeted and living on borrowed time. yet they all chose to stick around and go through their regular routines. fascinating mindset that civilians can't understand. there's one more Scoppa brother left. hope he wasn't involved in any of this.
Posted By: horse_face

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/21/19 08:43 PM

Originally Posted by mr_white
Were the Falduto brothers the shooters for the Scoppas in the Sollecito and Giordano hits, then double -crossed and killed themselves by the Scoppas? Seems like they were clearly Scoppa crew members...


no, Scarfo and Massari were on that hit. Falduto bros were eliminated because of their loyalty to the Sicilians and the territory they controlled (part of RDP)
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/21/19 08:56 PM

At some point Andrew seemed to be have been close to becoming the new leader of the Montreal Mafia, until he was incarcerated. Things might've been very different for Leonardo Rizzuto and Stefano Sollecito had they not been arrested when their lives were in danger. Instead the elder Sollecito and Giordano were killed as interim leaders, but the real leaders were safe behind bars. You'd almost think the police are on the Sicilians' side.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/21/19 09:00 PM

Originally Posted by Sonny_Black
At some point Andrew seemed to be have been close to becoming the new leader of the Montreal Mafia, until he was incarcerated. Things might've been very different for Leonardo Rizzuto and Stefano Sollecito had they not been arrested when their lives were in danger. Instead the elder Sollecito and Giordano were killed as interim leaders, but the real leaders were save behind bars. You'd almost think the police are on the Sicilians' side.


Giordano was Frank Arcadi's guy, who was also behind bars at the time.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/21/19 09:06 PM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Originally Posted by Sonny_Black
At some point Andrew seemed to be have been close to becoming the new leader of the Montreal Mafia, until he was incarcerated. Things might've been very different for Leonardo Rizzuto and Stefano Sollecito had they not been arrested when their lives were in danger. Instead the elder Sollecito and Giordano were killed as interim leaders, but the real leaders were save behind bars. You'd almost think the police are on the Sicilians' side.


Giordano was Frank Arcadi's guy, who was also behind bars at the time.


Yeah, who would've thought Compare Franco would be the last man standing of the old guard. He made so many enemies he would've been the first to go had he not been behind bars too.
Posted By: housepainter

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/21/19 09:55 PM

Gotta wonder where he is now? Him and Del Balso... not a peep...
Posted By: pmac

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/21/19 10:01 PM

So whose the winners in all this? Leonardo rizzuto is free rite? If he is im guessing hes living on barrowed time. Should pack up and move to Wyoming if they allow him in the usa
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/21/19 11:41 PM

Originally Posted by horse_face
Originally Posted by mr_white
Were the Falduto brothers the shooters for the Scoppas in the Sollecito and Giordano hits, then double -crossed and killed themselves by the Scoppas? Seems like they were clearly Scoppa crew members...


no, Scarfo and Massari were on that hit. Falduto bros were eliminated because of their loyalty to the Sicilians and the territory they controlled (part of RDP)


The Falduto surname is found most among Italians whose ancestry is from Calabria but is common enough that people in Lombardia, Lazio, Piemonte, Sicily, and Toscana -- among other regions -- also bear that surname. Do you happen to know whether there is definitive information that the Falduto brothers had Calabrian ancestry?

I'm fairly certain Lorenzo Giordano's mother (last name: Scrufari) descended from Calabria. Did his father as well?
Posted By: eurodave

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/22/19 12:29 AM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Originally Posted by horse_face
Originally Posted by mr_white
Were the Falduto brothers the shooters for the Scoppas in the Sollecito and Giordano hits, then double -crossed and killed themselves by the Scoppas? Seems like they were clearly Scoppa crew members...


no, Scarfo and Massari were on that hit. Falduto bros were eliminated because of their loyalty to the Sicilians and the territory they controlled (part of RDP)


The Falduto surname is found most among Italians whose ancestry is from Calabria but is common enough that people in Lombardia, Lazio, Piemonte, Sicily, and Toscana -- among other regions -- also bear that surname. Do you happen to know whether there is definitive information that the Falduto brothers had Calabrian ancestry?

I'm fairly certain Lorenzo Giordano's mother (last name: Scrufari) descended from Calabria. Did his father as well?


Once again the media strikes. They pitch this whole thing as a Sicilian vs Calabrian rivalry when it's not that simple.

Falduto are from Reggio Calabria
Giordano also from Reggio Calabria
Sollecito from Bari
Spagnolo from Cattolica Eraclea
Scoppa is from Catanzaro region

Clearly this isn't a sicilian vs calabrian cell war but rather a battle for turf between different clans which have italian canadian leaders from various regions in italy. The Scoppa brothers were at odds with similarly aged gangsters left from the old rizzuto clan.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/22/19 09:48 AM

Andrew Scoppa, the former head of the Montreal Mafia who was shot in the head yesterday morning, was about to leave the country and had already bought his plane ticket abroad.

https://www.journaldequebec.com/2019/10/21/un-homme-abattu-en-plein-jour-dans-louest-de-montreal
Posted By: JoeTadaro

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/22/19 11:00 AM

Originally Posted by Sonny_Black
At some point Andrew seemed to be have been close to becoming the new leader of the Montreal Mafia, until he was incarcerated. Things might've been very different for Leonardo Rizzuto and Stefano Sollecito had they not been arrested when their lives were in danger. Instead the elder Sollecito and Giordano were killed as interim leaders, but the real leaders were safe behind bars. You'd almost think the police are on the Sicilians' side.


The police probably are on their side lol
Posted By: JoeTadaro

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/22/19 11:02 AM

Originally Posted by pmac
So whose the winners in all this? Leonardo rizzuto is free rite? If he is im guessing hes living on barrowed time. Should pack up and move to Wyoming if they allow him in the usa


Why would he run now? He’s been fighting since Vito died and now it seems that it’s finally paying off. If he was going to run he should have a long time ago lol shit is getting very interesting up there can’t wait to see who gets offed next
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/22/19 02:14 PM

Meurtre d'Andrew Scoppa: du respect pour Vito Rizzuto, mais pas pour ses successeurs

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...izzuto-mais-pas-pour-ses-successeurs.php
Posted By: thebigfella

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/22/19 02:55 PM

His side is looking that's why he's running
Posted By: thebigfella

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/22/19 02:56 PM

Loosing
Posted By: thebigfella

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/22/19 02:58 PM

Were the scoppa's on the same side as desjardins?
Posted By: m2w

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/22/19 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by eurodave
Originally Posted by antimafia
Originally Posted by horse_face
Originally Posted by mr_white
Were the Falduto brothers the shooters for the Scoppas in the Sollecito and Giordano hits, then double -crossed and killed themselves by the Scoppas? Seems like they were clearly Scoppa crew members...


no, Scarfo and Massari were on that hit. Falduto bros were eliminated because of their loyalty to the Sicilians and the territory they controlled (part of RDP)


The Falduto surname is found most among Italians whose ancestry is from Calabria but is common enough that people in Lombardia, Lazio, Piemonte, Sicily, and Toscana -- among other regions -- also bear that surname. Do you happen to know whether there is definitive information that the Falduto brothers had Calabrian ancestry?

I'm fairly certain Lorenzo Giordano's mother (last name: Scrufari) descended from Calabria. Did his father as well?


Once again the media strikes. They pitch this whole thing as a Sicilian vs Calabrian rivalry when it's not that simple.

Falduto are from Reggio Calabria
Giordano also from Reggio Calabria
Sollecito from Bari
Spagnolo from Cattolica Eraclea
Scoppa is from Catanzaro region

Clearly this isn't a sicilian vs calabrian cell war but rather a battle for turf between different clans which have italian canadian leaders from various regions in italy. The Scoppa brothers were at odds with similarly aged gangsters left from the old rizzuto clan.

i knew spagnolo was sicilian and sollecito from puglia, i was not sure about the ancestry of the others... anyway canadian mafia is like american one, formed by sicilians but with members from other regions
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/22/19 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by thebigfella
Loosing


French-language journalist Daniel Renaud was interviewed by CTV Montreal News journalist Rachel Lau. This is what she wrote in her article, which is published in English (https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/reputed...w-scoppa-killed-in-pierrefonds-1.4647556):

Renaud told CTV Scoppa's death was [sic] not come as a surprise to those who follow the movements of Montreal's underworld, and likely wasn't even a shock to Scoppa himself. Police had warned him that his life was in danger at least once in the past few months, the journalist said.

With Andrew's death, the Scoppa clan has been wiped off the map, Renaud said.

"Whatever is left of their clan, if ever there were other individuals who were faithful to Andrew, they will doubtlessly head to other clans," he told CTV.

________________________

Nevertheless, I can't help but wonder whether there will be a revenge killing soon or three years from now, regardless of whether Scoppa's crew is no more. His friends/associates could become part of a crime group that doesn't like the way the Italian underworld is being run by whoever is the presumed leader(s) of the Montreal Mafia (Stefano Sollecito, or he and Leonardo Rizzuto), which Scoppa apparently was considered at one point in the last few years -- Scoppa might have had an extensive network of contacts, some of whom may also want to avenge his death; one article by Renaud from September 2018 mentions Scoppa's role as the Montreal Mafia's interim leader, and that in May 2016, the idea of Andrew and brother Salvatore being co-leaders was met with approval by the mafia in Toronto and in Italy, according to a source. (Link: https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...t-ete-chef-interimaire-de-la-mafia.php/.)
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/22/19 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by thebigfella
Were the scoppa's on the same side as desjardins?


Good question, Both Andrew and Raynald were at one time close to Vito Rizzuto.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/22/19 05:56 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Meurtre d'Andrew Scoppa: du respect pour Vito Rizzuto, mais pas pour ses successeurs

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...izzuto-mais-pas-pour-ses-successeurs.php


Merci antimafia, a nice portrait of Andrew.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/22/19 09:02 PM

Interesting tweet by Anna Sergi. Those who don't know her she is an expert on the 'Ndrangheta.

"The fact that two Calabrian brothers are dead in Laval (Montreal) in the space of a few months needs to be read in conjunction with the instrumental friendships other alleged mafia people in the city are making in other cities."
Posted By: mr_white

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/22/19 09:56 PM

Nah, probably not at all - I think she's wrong and trying to sound relevant...this is Sollecito and Rizzuto finally getting him after a number of years and long consideration and I don't think they need any new friends or permission from anyone to do it..
Posted By: mr_white

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/22/19 09:57 PM

Her comment implies they sought permission from other cities which seems incorrect to say the least.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/23/19 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Originally Posted by thebigfella
Loosing


French-language journalist Daniel Renaud was interviewed by CTV Montreal News journalist Rachel Lau. This is what she wrote in her article, which is published in English (https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/reputed...w-scoppa-killed-in-pierrefonds-1.4647556):

Renaud told CTV Scoppa's death was [sic] not come as a surprise to those who follow the movements of Montreal's underworld, and likely wasn't even a shock to Scoppa himself. Police had warned him that his life was in danger at least once in the past few months, the journalist said.

With Andrew's death, the Scoppa clan has been wiped off the map, Renaud said.

"Whatever is left of their clan, if ever there were other individuals who were faithful to Andrew, they will doubtlessly head to other clans," he told CTV.

________________________

Nevertheless, I can't help but wonder whether there will be a revenge killing soon or three years from now, regardless of whether Scoppa's crew is no more. His friends/associates could become part of a crime group that doesn't like the way the Italian underworld is being run by whoever is the presumed leader(s) of the Montreal Mafia (Stefano Sollecito, or he and Leonardo Rizzuto), which Scoppa apparently was considered at one point in the last few years -- Scoppa might have had an extensive network of contacts, some of whom may also want to avenge his death; one article by Renaud from September 2018 mentions Scoppa's role as the Montreal Mafia's interim leader, and that in May 2016, the idea of Andrew and brother Salvatore being co-leaders was met with approval by the mafia in Toronto and in Italy, according to a source. (Link: https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...t-ete-chef-interimaire-de-la-mafia.php/.)


This is very interesting. I suppose with Toronto and Italy the reference is to the 'Ndrangheta. They may have used the Scoppas as proxy's to gain more influence in Montreal, now that it may be more of an open city (as a result of the failed attempt by Montagna to reorganize the fractured Bonanno crew and Vito Rizzuto' s demise).

But imo it is unlikely the Scoppas themselves are 'Ndrangheta based on the fact that they were first connected to Moreno Gallo (an alleged Bonanno member) and Vito Rizzuto (a Bonanno member). Previously, Montreal was La Cosa Nostra territory. A few years ago Renaud identified Andrew as a member, but in what family would he have been inducted?

It is very much requested the Canadian mob experts, such as Renaud, specify this matter instead of these vague anecdotes.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/23/19 02:24 PM

^^^^
Brace for more violence after Pierrefonds shooting, Mafia experts warn

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...pierrefonds-shooting-mafia-experts-warn/
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/23/19 07:04 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
^^^^
And Deland had his article published this past Thursday:

Criblé de balles en plein jour dans Saint-Léonard

https://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2019/10/03/crible-de-balles-en-plein-jo.ur-dans-saint-leonard


Link doesn't work here you go https://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2019/10/03/crible-de-balles-en-plein-jour-dans-saint-leonard

Have we learned any thing about the motive? The name Terlizzese doesn't ring a bell but it looks like it has Puglian origins.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/23/19 10:10 PM

^^^^
Thanks for pointing out my error. I've fixed the link in the original post.

As far as I know, there hasn't been any news about the shots being fired at Terlizzese.
Posted By: Serpiente

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/24/19 03:11 PM

With Trump trying to crush the southern border Canada will be making unlimited money .

Before and after the 70’s and up till the routes were created by what we now know as cartels Canada was the the place and all the city’s that border it . You watch with Mexico taking a huge hit from USA these city’s on the northern border will once again will increase in OC control.

There is a small town on the border of Maine called Eagle Lake and the route in 60’s and 70’s was so well traveled for stuff headed south people could not understand why there were so much traffic on a logging road that eventually connected to 95 .

Not just that , the money spent to get 95 extended further north to meet the route from Eagle Lake always had my attention and one of the old OC guys from,Nucky Johnson friends at the end a Italian guy (dead and gone) bought most of the town cannot say more other then these places are ripe for what’s going to start over again.

Obviously weed was a big thing for that route and with it being legal the traffic will have other stuff in the loads

Backthen the main highway north of Eagle Lake had aborder stop but there were tons and tons of back roads .

Not the Eagle Lake in center of state .... north.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/24/19 10:40 PM

'Ndrangheta or not the fact is the Scoppa's ties to the underworld stretching to Italy and Mexico are significant.
Posted By: MegaMikejr

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/24/19 11:12 PM

https://torontosun.com/news/national/mob-rubout-what-does-montreal-hit-mean-for-gta
Posted By: Stubbs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/25/19 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by Serpiente
With Trump trying to crush the southern border Canada will be making unlimited money .

Before and after the 70’s and up till the routes were created by what we now know as cartels Canada was the the place and all the city’s that border it . You watch with Mexico taking a huge hit from USA these city’s on the northern border will once again will increase in OC control.


The stupid wall, even if they somehow got it built, won’t put even a slight dent in the drug trade from Mexico. Even the DEA says 95% of all drugs come through legal ports of entry. The cartels flood the highways going north with so much drugs, and maybe 1 in 10 loads actually gets stopped. No wall will stop that.

Not to mention Chapo was famous for building tunnels underneath the border, which a wall wouldn’t stop. And I only mention the wall because that’s the only solution the current administration has come up with, which anyone who follows the drug trade knows it’ll fail.

The Canadians are all working with the Mexicans, like Tony Suzuki buying from the Sinaloa cartel. This won’t stop anytime soon. The Mexicans have too much control over central and south america as well.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/25/19 01:54 PM

The theft of money to repay a debt to the Mafia could be the motive for the wild assault of a woman
Jean-Sébastien Cormier, the victim's ex-husband, owed money to Marco Pizzi

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...fia-pourrait-etre-le-mobile-du-crime.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/25/19 05:49 PM

Un promoteur au passé trouble s’étend au centre-ville

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2019/10/25/un-promoteur-au-passe-trouble-setend-au-centre-ville
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/25/19 11:13 PM

Who want to be the boss now? Most of the leaders have been killed lol.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/26/19 01:06 AM

Andrew Scoppa killed in Montreal: thoughtful Mafia boss doomed by circumstance

Andrew Scoppa, aka Andrea Scoppa, 55, was shot dead Monday morning while making his rounds near the top of St. John's Blvd in Pierrefonds.
Scoppa leaves a widow whom he married in the late 90s, as well as three kids.
Scoppa was an underworld entrepreneur, considered the head of one of the seven tribes controlling the local crime scene and was admired for being an even-tempered, thoughtful person, well-read in history, a Habs fan and extremely cool under even the most intense pressure.
Andrew's younger brother Sal Scoppa, 49, was shot dead in Laval in May.
The two were a study in contrasts, as Sal was known to be short-tempered and enjoyed inflicting brutal punishment - it's said that he even killed or ordered killings - for what would seem trivial or misguided reasons.
Andrew, however, was not known for violence, although he could be brutal if he deemed the situation called for it.
Andrew and Sal were from a tight-knit Calabrian family that grew up in Park Extension and attended William Hingston High.
Andrew found himself hustling for gangsters from the age of 14. So busy was he that he only got around to teaching himself to read and write after the age of 20.
Andrew's brother Sal joined later, but their families - siblings, spouses and kids - were in no way associated with the underworld.
With the decline of the local Rizzuto clan, about four well-organized families are believed to control the local Mafia, with another three less-organized also completing the picture.
The soup includes factions with names like Lopez, a Granby-based faction and the remnants of the old Ponytail Devito crew.
Andrew's death comes as a shock but it was not entirely unexpected, after brother Sal was gunned down in front of his family at a hotel in Laval. Sal had also survived a 2017 shooting in Terrebonne, allegedly by prolific hired-hitman Fred Silva.
Pressure on Andrew ramped up last Tuesday after police arrested four of Sal's closest associates (Jonathan Massari, 38, Dominico Scarfo, 47, Guy Dion, 48, and Marie-Josée Viau, 44) in connection with the 2016 murders of Rocco Sollecito, Lorenzo Giordano, Vincenzo Falduo and Guiseppe Falduto.
Andrew was aware of the pressure and was said to have booked a flight out of the country in the days before his death.
Sal, with his brutal ways and monosyllabic utterances, had incurred the fear and wrath of many in his management the selling of cocaine and heroin in cafes and bars in St. Leonard and other adjacent areas.
Sal's crew of dial-a-dope distributors was a diverse gang of Turks, Lebanese and Arabs, some of whom might have been a little terrified of their boss and could possibly have tipped police off.
One of Sal's distributors, for example, was a 21-year-old Concordia student, who was found dead in a field north of Montreal, after receiving a mere fine for a drunk-driving infraction.
Although the DUI punishment was normal, some believe the dealer was killed because his perceived small punishment for the DUI was seen to suggest that he had gone informant against his boss..
Sal and his crew were an independent unit who were not closely associated with Andrew, who was above Sal in the local crime hierarchy.
However the family link might have been fatal nonetheless.
Andrew was killed - with shots to the face, a sign of disrespect - most likely for one of two reasons.
When Sal's associates were arrested on Tuesday October 15 for the four Mafia murders, it lead rival Mafioso to suspect Andrew's involvement. The four murders were committed with professional precision considered far beyond Sal's competence.
A second credible motive for Andrew's killing lies in his 2017 arrest for possession of over 100 kilos of cocaine inside of the Canadiens condo towers downtown, where he owned three units.
It's possible that there were bad feelings among investors about money lost by police seizing the supply.
The latest developments suggest that much more blood could spill in coming months.

http://coolopolis.blogspot.com/2019/10/andrew-scoppa-killed-in-montreal.html
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/26/19 01:58 PM



They corrected the Toronto Sun story, reporter Brad Hunter attributed to Dubro Anna Sergi’s quote.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/26/19 06:28 PM

Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/26/19 10:57 PM

Wow I missed a lot!!
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/27/19 03:15 PM

^^^^
Un simple manche à balai pour torturer les mauvais payeurs

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...-balai-pour-torturer-les-mauvais-payeurs
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/27/19 04:29 PM

Déjà 16 victimes du crime organisé cette année:

https://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2019/10/27/deja-16-victimes-du-crime-organise-cette-annee
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/29/19 10:39 AM

Sextorsion: le propriétaire de la Grande Roue aurait exigé 2,5 millions en crypto-monnaie

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-exige-25-millions-en-crypto-monnaie.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/29/19 10:52 AM

Un matamore de la mafia est de retour en prison

https://www.journaldequebec.com/2019/10/29/un-matamore-de-la-mafia-est-de-retour-en-prison
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/29/19 05:17 PM

^^^^
Le mafioso Francesco Del Balso renvoyé au pénitencier

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...sco-del-balso-renvoye-au-penitencier.php
Posted By: vito_andolini

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/29/19 10:11 PM

Anyone have any updates on Arcadi since his release?

"At that time (2016), Arcadi said he was not afraid for his life yet his exit plan was to settle away from Montreal, to settle in a residence protected by a grid and cameras "to control the comings and goings, visitors, and avoid the unwanted..."and to "maintain a garden and lead a peaceful life, surrounded by his children and grandchildren."

A new man
But two years later (2018), the Parole Board concludes that Arcadi is a new man. "You adopt a conformist behavior and respect your conditions. You recognize the violence associated with your activities and the consequences that drug use can have on society and consumers. "
"In 2016 and 2017, information suggested that your security could be compromised. Currently, this situation seems to have subsided. For your part, you stress that you do not have any fear for your safety. Moreover, nothing in the police information currently indicates that there are threats to you, "wrote a commissioner in a decision rendered on March 9 that allows Arcadi to return home.

https://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2018/03/21/retraite-a-domicile-pour-un-ex-chef-de-la-mafia-1
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/30/19 12:17 AM

Originally Posted by Hollander


The topic of the first podcast on Monday:

What was it like for a young police investigator to listen in on the Violi-Cotroni organization in its final days?
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/30/19 01:29 PM

Alleged Montreal Mafia leader Francesco Del Balso back in prison

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...ader-francesco-del-balso-back-in-prison/
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/31/19 12:23 AM

Roger Bishop shot dead outside Brossard gym; victim reportedly linked to Hells Angels

https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/man-gun...ortedly-linked-to-hells-angels-1.4662428
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/31/19 12:47 AM

Bishop had some pull with the port of Montreal as a longshoreman have been linked to drug trafficking for a long time police is investigating if there are links to the other recent murders both Mafia and Hells Angels.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/01/19 02:17 PM

Un rare policier à avoir pu approcher Vito Rizzuto prend sa retraite

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...ocher-vito-rizzuto-prend-sa-retraite.php
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/02/19 12:20 AM

Originally Posted by antimafia
^^^^
Thanks for pointing out my error. I've fixed the link in the original post.

As far as I know, there hasn't been any news about the shots being fired at Terlizzese.


Renaud had a new article today in which he said Terlizzese was mistaken for a target, but this was not confirmed by the police.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/02/19 04:55 PM

^^^^
Grand Montréal: un expert craint une montée de la culture des armes à feu

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...montee-de-la-culture-des-armes-a-feu.php

Similar topic:

Une montée du crime « désorganisé » dans l’est de Montréal

https://journalmetro.com/actualites...crime-desorganise-dans-lest-de-montreal/

Also:

Attaque par de faux livreurs de pizza: Marco Pizzi nie tout lien avec l’affaire

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...co-pizzi-nie-tout-lien-avec-laffaire.php
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/03/19 08:07 PM

Nov 1, 2019

Mafia, decline and death of the Rizzuto clan: the whole story (true) ended in a film
The elimination of Andrea "Andrew" Scoppa is the latest episode in a war torn between Canadian mafia families triggered by the decline of the Rizzuto clan.
Grandangolo has dealt much with North American mafia events driven by the territorial ownership of its historical exponents of the Agrigento region.
Some time ago with a lucid interview with the former senator of the Democratic Party, Giuseppe Lumia had focused our spotlight on Canada and the Agrigento families operating in that vast territory, illuminating disquieting scenarios on the mafia phenomenon and returning attention to what happened in the past and on the truly prominent role of the Agrigento mafia in all the criminal dynamics, including transnational ones, which have consecrated clans of absolute mafia prestige, such as those of the Caruana - Cuntrera and the Rizzutos, at the top of the international organized crime.
Even today, these names are back in the limelight and have recently appeared among the papers of the Parliamentary Commission of Inquiry into the Mafia phenomenon.
Not everyone knows that - the events date back to half a century ago, testifying that the mafia of Agrigento was and is powerful - Cosa Nostra had even a head of the so-called Cupola, in that Giuseppe Settecasi, later assassinated under the house, who besides driving the commission of Cosa Nostra flew, at seventy and more years of age, both in Canada and in America to put in place delicate and difficult situations and remedy the disagreements between the mafia and ndrine of the Calabrian ndrangheta.
That Giuseppe Settacasi who was at the head of Cosa Nostra Sicilian for a well-defined period during which the internecine war between Sicilian gangs had "turned upside down" (words of Tommaso Buscetta) the honored society.
For the Canadian red coats, who had intercepted and listened to Settecasi on April 22 and May 10, 1974 in Paul Violi's "Reggio Bar" in Montreal while giving orders and explaining how the mafia worked in Sicily (for the half-island police stations it was a poor 80-year-old pensioner playing cards, in shirt sleeves, with taxi drivers at the central station of Agrigento) the old boss was a mafia authority so charismatic he could heal the disagreements between the ndrangheta and the Cosa Nostra.
Those interceptions that explained the exact organization chart of the Sicilian mafia of those years, ended up in a drawer of the Questura of Agrigento and never used. It took the first massacre of Porto Empedocle, 14 years later, to understand its role and scope. And in these 14 years the mafia has enormously exaggerated its power by carrying out massacres, killing men of the institutions, controlling the social, entrepreneurial and political life of an entire nation.
In 1974, therefore, as proof of the consolidated friendship and business relations between the exponents of the North American mafia and the Sicilian Cosa Nostra, Vincent Cotroni, Nick Rizzuto and the local representatives of the Cuntrera-Caruana families received Giuseppe Settecasi, head of the gangs, in Canada mafia members of the entire province of Agrigento. The climate of the time was very heavy, the Sicilian mafia was torn by an internecine war that would have allowed, some time later, the climb to the top of the Corleonesi of Riina and Provenzano. In an endless series of meetings in Montreal, Epiphani, Hamilton and New York, Settecasi met the main exponents of the Italian-American mafia, including Paul Castellano, Paul Violi, Giuseppe Cuffaro, Gerlando Sciascia, Angelo Mongiovì, Emanuele Ragusa.
The main reason for Settecasi's trip, according to Canadian authorities, was to strengthen relations between the mafia on the two continents and repair a rift within local criminal groups.
Settecasi was to smooth out the differences that arose in the cosca represented by Vincent Cotroni, between Leonardo Caruana and the same Nicola Rizzuto who had questioned his appointment as head of the district. Rizzuto, in particular, did not like the familiarity created between Vic Cotroni and the Calabrese Paul Violi, strongly on the rise in Canadian crime, also thanks to the marriage with Grazia Luppino, the daughter of Giacomo Luppino, the original boss of Castellace di Oppido Mamertina and representative of Magaddino "family". Precisely Cotroni, in that marriage, had acted as ringleader to Paul Violi.
The pax mafiosa reached thanks to the mediation of Settecasi was short-lived.
In 1975 Vincent Cotroni was jailed for refusing to testify before the Canadian Parliament's Committee of Inquiry on the Mafia phenomenon. Paul Violi was appointed his successor. From Caracas, where Nick Rizzuto had been forced to relocate by starting a restaurant he called "The Godfather", the military counter-offensive against the new Montreal boss was organized. One by one all Violi's subjects fell. The Mafia war was fierce and in the streets of the Canadian metropolis there were about twenty murders. Then, in 1978, it was the turn of Paul Violi himself to end up murdered in the "Reggio Bar", the restaurant he managed in Montreal and which had been the site of the summit between the North American mafia and Giuseppe Settecasi.

For the murder Violi were arrested, among others, Agostino Cuntrera and Domenico Manno, both linked to Nick Rizzuto.
Three years later, no better fate would have fallen to the other antagonist of the former camp of Cattolica Eraclea, Leonardo Caruana. Deported to Italy because he was branded as "unwanted" by the authorities who suspected him of international drug trafficking, Leonardo Caruana was killed on 2 September 1981 in Palermo after attending the wedding ceremony of his son Gerlando. Even the elderly boss Settecasi was the victim of the same year of a blatant murder in the center of Agrigento. It was the epilogue of a long war that had consecrated the new leadership of Nick Rizzuto in the Canadian mafia organization linked to the most powerful Sicilian-Calabrian families.
This whole affair, up until the present day, was represented in a parliamentary question presented by the then Democratic senator, Giuseppe Lumia, which deserves to be recalled given its topicality and effectiveness.
Lumia writes to the Ministers of the Interior and of Justice: given that, as far as the interrogator is concerned, a growing mafia war is taking place in Canada which also involves sectors of the Italian-American mafia of Cosa Nostra and the Ndrangheta; there are more than twenty deaths in what can be defined as the second Mafia war on Canadian soil, especially within the Rizzuto clan;
the Rizzuto clan is now commonly called the "sixth family" of New York, after that of the Gambinos, Lucchese, Colombo, Genovese and Bonanno. The progenitor boss, Vito Rizzuto, was born and raised in Sicily, in Cattolica Eraclea (Agrigento) on 12 April 1901, he was the first of the family to move to the new continent in 1922, along with 5 friends (Calogero Renda, Mercurio Campisi, Francesco Giula , Giuseppe Sciortino, Vincenzo Marino), and after only 8 months from his daring arrival in America he even managed to obtain American citizenship. Immediately engaged in criminal affairs, he lost his life at the young age of 32, quite brutally. The perpetrators of the murder still remain ambiguous, there was a great deal of talk then of bosses like Max Simon, Stefano Spinello and Rosario Arcuro due to a sort of settlement of accounts; in February 1954, Nicolò Rizzuto, Vito's son, arrived in Canada, following in his father's footsteps, he always sought fortune out of Sicily. Unlike his father, Nicolò arrived in the land of lakes with his family and immediately went to the great city of Montreal with the support of a dear friend, Giuseppe Cuffaro, who settled in the Canadian city, a year before and an expert in recycling of money;
the Mafia summit held in 1957 at the Hotel des Palmes in Palermo, attended by the bosses of Cosa Nostra Sicilian and American (Lucky Luciano, Carmine Galante of the Bonanno family, Tano Badalamenti and Tommaso Buscetta, among others), sanctioned the the will of the two mafia organizations to insert themselves in the lucrative trade of heroin, undermining the now decadent "French connection", managed by the famous Marseilles criminals. Asian opium was transformed into heroin in secret laboratories distributed in Sicily and transported to Canada. From Montréal then, it was sorted towards the USA, and in particular in New York, where demand was constantly increasing. For two decades the heroine enriched the Sicilian and American bosses, guaranteeing a monopoly on traffic. In this activity the bosses Caruana and Cuntrera stood out, as it happens, they too come from the province of Agrigento, just from Siculiana, which is only 16 kilometers from Cattolica Eraclea; Vito married in 1966 with Giovanna Cammalleri, originally from Cattolica Eraclea, but moved with her family to Canada, to Toronto. The most influential bosses participated in the wedding, including the Calabrian Paolo Violi. The latter gained a leading position in the management of offenses and Nick Rizzuto was granted the opportunity to build another family outpost in Venezuela, where he moved in 1973. In Venezuela Nick was able to take advantage of the support of the Caruana - Cuntrera, and in that territory he was head of the main business. In reality Nick confided to Buscetta that he had left Montreal, because Paolo Violi wanted him dead, but the removal was only physical,
the Rizzuto family and in particular Nick, is considered the instigator of as many as 3 homicides (Pietro Sciarra, Francesco Violi, Paolo Violi) and from this moment begins a bloody conflict to obtain the full hegemony of the sixth family.
This is a real war, the first mafia war that could count on enormous financial resources coming from drug trafficking and had as its main objective the control of the great deal of the Montreal Olympics in 1976. In the years following Violi's death , won the war against the Calabrian mafia, the Rizzutos go into business with all the major Sicilian mobsters, with the drug exponents of South America and the most important New York bosses;
From the mid-seventies the Rizzutos, completely independent from the Bonanno supervision (weakened by purges and murders in an attempt to block the ever increasing influence of the Sicilians, the "Zip"), imposed themselves in Canada and with the control of Montréal to north and with the alliance with the Cuntrera-Caruana to the south, they got the keys to drug trafficking to the US. The Rizzutos therefore became the intermediary for drug trafficking, forging a profitable and strong alliance with the Cuntrera-Caruana family, which from the Island of Aruba would become the link with the South American narcos also for the paths of the cocaine;
In the space of a decade (1975-1985), drug trafficking was strengthened. Also with the help of the Cuntrera-Caruana, logistic bases were opened in Florida, from where coca was marketed to the north, up to Montréal and from there sent to Europe. Heroin traveled in the opposite direction. Hashish was another very lucrative affair. Numerous traffic routes were opened: the Lebanese way through the Phalangist militias, who sold hashish in exchange for weapons; the Irish way, via the Irish West End Gangs operating in Montreal; the Pakistani way with the complicity of the Gang Dubois; the Libyan way. The traffic was so frequent and profitable that the Canadian police seized 55 tons of hashish for 675 million dollars in two separate operations in the late 1980s;
Drugs were joined by counterfeiting and trafficking in dollars, bank operations and fraud, money laundering and there seems to have been an attempt to get hold of the treasure of the former Asian dictator, the Filipino Ferdinand Marcos and massive investments in Italy and in Europe, like the one foiled by Dia in 2005, to enter with 5 million euros into the business of building the bridge over the Strait of Messina, through the entrepreneur Joseph Zappia, responsible for the construction of the Montreal Olympic village in 1976, or the big fraudulent operations with the founder of Made in Italy Inc, Mariano Turrizi, and with components of the oldest Italian families (for the two operations over 6 billion dollars of investments were available);the proponent of the wealth and power of the Sixth Family was Vito Rizzuto, the gentleman boss, who managed to make his criminal family a powerful and feared money machine, poured into bank accounts in Switzerland and Liechtenstein;
The interests of the Sixth Family are very extensive, from Canada to the United States, from Venezuela to Colombia, from Switzerland, Germany and Great Britain, from China, to Algeria, United Arab Emirates to Cuba, from Mexico to Italy, from Haiti to Belize .
Vito Rizzuto managed not to be arrested, until the collapse of the Bonanno family dragged him to a US court. The relations between the sixth family and the Bonanno over the years (since 1995) became increasingly cold, to the point that even the sixth family succeeded in completely obscuring, both for wealth and power, the Bonanno family;
the Sixth Family combines the traditions of the Sicilian mafia with a modern and solid corporate structure, resulting in a strong, stable and constantly expanding mafia company. He abandoned the outdated organizational structure of a military order, for a more familiar one (he joined the mafia organization not so much with the ancient initiation ceremonies, but with marriages or promises of marriage). The result is a sense of solid belonging, based on trust, devotion and unconditional esteem, which protects the structure itself from devastating betrayals and infiltrations. The Bonannos, in fact, put under intense pressure by the American police forces, saw their power and their stability crumble. Many Bonanno first-level bosses, starting with the head of the family Joey Massino, a close ally of Vito and formally his superior, once arrested, they decided to collaborate with the authorities. The help of 4 penitents of great criminal importance, all former members or associates of the Bonanno, led to the disintegration of the family, and dragged Vito Rizzuto to ruin. Arrested at his home in January 2004, Rizzuto was extradited to the United States and sentenced to prison. A pecuniary penalty was applied through an unexpected plea bargain and a declaration of guilt; Rizzuto was extradited to the United States and sentenced to prison. A pecuniary penalty was applied through an unexpected plea bargain and a declaration of guilt; Rizzuto was extradited to the United States and sentenced to prison. A pecuniary penalty was applied through an unexpected plea bargain and a declaration of guilt;
in conjunction with the imprisonment of the boss, the Sixth Family suffered a harsh attack from the Canadian Police, which in several operations arrested numerous high-volume components, putting the dense traffic network at risk. The organization is greatly weakened, but there are many important members of the Rizzuto family clan who remained immune to the arrests and continue to operate;
More recently, a new mafia war has broken out.
This time, the Rizzuto clan was unsuccessful due to the Calabrian Mafiosi of the Siderno group, originating in the province of Reggio Calabria. In fact, the trail of blood in recent years is impressive. On December 28, 2009 Nick Rizzuto junior, son of Vito Rizzuto, the historical head of the family, falls. Thus began a second mafia war, after that of the 70s, where the Rizzutos prevailed over the Calabrian exponents of their own family, linked to the Cotroni and the Bonanno. A year later, a victim of white shotgun is Paolo Renda, brother-in-law of the godfather Nicola Rizzuto senior, followed a month later by Agostino Cuntrera, linked to the famous Caruana and Cuntrera clan. On 10 December 2010, 86-year-old Nicola Rizzuto senior was hit with an extraordinary aim by a sniper while he was in his villa. sitting in the kitchen. The boss of the bosses of the Rizzutos, his son Vito, remained alive, released from prison in October 2012, ready for revenge for the killing of his son and father and able to raise the clan from the dust and thus try to react in this bloody war that saw them unsuccessful. Suddenly, an unexpected opponent arrives, the disease, and is struck down by pulmonary complications on December 23, 2013. Almost all the six members who managed the dome of Montreal during Vito's stay in prison die. Only Francesco Arcadi and Francesco Del Balso remained alive because they were arrested in the meantime. Other exponents fall and even the Rizzutos' grandsons are at risk. Many central figures of this family are missing, Salvatore Montagna in 2011, and more recently in 2016 Rocco Sollecito is also killed on May 27th, and Angelo D'Onofri, on June 2nd. The son of Sollecito, Stefano and a grandson of the Rizzutos, the lawyer Leonardo, remain alive, perhaps because they are under arrest;
A return of the Rizzutos in the province of Agrigento cannot be excluded, because right now in Toronto they are suffering repeated and systematic fatal blows. It is to be assessed if money and assets of this very important clan in the province of Agrigento have already arrived in these years. It is not a peregrine hypothesis to ask where is this money, what are the investments, who are their nominees. It is a first working track on which to engage the best Italian investigative energies. It is also possible to exclude a physical return of some of the offspring of the Rizzutos, in particular of that bourgeois and professional part, which in order to escape death could return to their ancestors' homeland, seen as a sort of safe haven to take refuge in and wait for the end of the terrible storm that hit them.
Now the killing of "Andrew" Scoppa, considered involved in the death of Rocco Sollecito.
A story that repeats itself and never ends.


Read more at https://www.grandangoloagrigento.it...ra-finita-in-un-film#E8vsYwHxto0v5L3u.99
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/04/19 01:16 AM

A luxury SUV is set on fire in front of an opulent residence in Terrebonne

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...ant-une-residence-cossue-de-terrebonne-1
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/06/19 05:01 PM

Le SPVM et la SQ unissent leurs forces
http://plus.lapresse.ca/screens/50490b3d-e7c6-4d26-bd76-4fd8c1905cc1__7C___0.html

SQ, SPVM join forces to investigate organized crime
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/sq-spvm-joint-squad-organized-crime-1.5349520
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/10/19 12:49 PM

As brazen organized crime shootings hit Montreal, police mum on extent of problem

https://www.660citynews.com/2019/11...ontreal-police-mum-on-extent-of-problem/
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/12/19 12:20 PM

A mafia winner is a loser for life in the United States
The one who pocketed $ 30,000 in lotto was banned from this country
FÉLIX SÉGUIN
Tuesday, November 12, 2019 01:00
UPDATE Tuesday, November 12, 2019 01:00
One of the central characters of the Montreal Mafia has just been banned for life from the United States. Giuseppe Focarazzo was turned back at the border on his way to Las Vegas, confirmed several sources from our Investigation Bureau.

On November 2, Focarazzo, nicknamed Joey Gator, and one of his partners showed up at Montreal-Trudeau Airport.

They planned to travel to Vice City to attend the boxing match between Canelo Alvarez and Sergey Kovalev. With $ 18,000 in US currency, the duo was ready for the fight that night at the MGM Grand Garden Arena.

Focarazzo had in hand a "US Waiver", a derogation that allowed him to cross the US border despite his convictions for extortion, death threats and injuries in 2004.

This document is issued by the US Department of Homeland Security.

But US customs officials at the airport have undone his plans.

They relied on police reports that Giuseppe Focarazzo is now responsible for linking the Hells Angels to the Montreal Mafia.

In December 2018, he was among the guests at the wedding of Martin Robert, the most influential Hells of the province.

"Americans view organized crime as a threat to security just like terrorists, and can therefore deny access to connected individuals in the United States," reports a source familiar with the issue.

Although surprised by this expeditious procedure, an immigration lawyer explains that it is not unusual.

"If the information [about Giuseppe Focarazzo's involvement] comes after his request for a derogation to enter the United States, the customs officer has every reason to exercise his discretion," says Stéphane Handfield.

DRUGS IN FLORIDA

Focarazzo made the headlines twice this summer.

In August, our Investigation Office revealed that he was allegedly drugged and stolen by a prostitute while he was staying at the W Hotel in Miami Beach.

Also, we revealed at the end of July that the 43-year-old man had won $ 30,016 at the Banco lottery, and that he proudly posed with his check on the Loto-Québec website.

In fact, Joey Gator's numerous mediated freaks earned him a new alias for his organized crime acolytes, who now call him The Prince, according to our sources.

Joined yesterday by phone, Giuseppe Focarazzo refused to talk to our Investigation Bureau.

"I'm not interested, have a good day," he replied before hanging up.

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2019/11/12/un-gagnant-mafieux-est-perdant-a-vie-aux-etats-unis
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/13/19 12:33 PM

Wow..the civilian infiltrative agent (ACI), whose identity, image and voice are banned from publication, is the one who opened fire on Rocco Sollecito before fleeing on a motorcycle driven by Jonathan Massari.

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...cipe-au-meurtre-du-mafieux-sollecito.php
Posted By: mike68

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/13/19 05:15 PM

So did the Scoppa's act alone, or did they have support from Toronto?
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/13/19 11:28 PM

Originally Posted by mike68
So did the Scoppa's act alone, or did they have support from Toronto?


They became isolated in recent years in particular after the murder of Andrew's right hand Steve Ovadia, aka The Jew or Ghost, murdered in June last year.
But indeed in 2016, a source told the police that Andrew and his brother Salvatore would have received the approval of Toronto and Italy, that they would be the leaders of the Montreal Mafia and "the decision-makers".
Remember, however, that this is source information and that it has not been proven or tested in court.
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/14/19 07:36 AM

That sounds like potential. Back in the Biker War in Quebec there was something called the DarkTable or something that was used to fund the Rock Machine, someone of group must be doing something similar. Also the shown Bad Blood predicted the massacre of the Calabrese in Hamilton in season 2 beforehand it happened in Hamilton, no conspiracy but what the hell
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/14/19 07:38 AM

Also is it true that there was never an autopsy done on Vito Rizzuto?If so opinions??
Posted By: Giacomo_Vacari

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/14/19 09:10 AM

That was the coroner's call and no I dont think anyone killed Rizzuto.
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/14/19 09:53 AM

It’s a stretch to think someone could, but not a stretch to think that someone would want to or make an attempt
Posted By: pmac

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/14/19 01:26 PM

So 1 of the hitman flipped and is giving police everyone on the scoppas side im getting from the french article. But all the guys who were giving the orders are dead. What a cluster fuck. Thats not anything ive ever seen with the american lcn. Thats just some cartel shit north of the border
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/14/19 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Originally Posted by mike68
So did the Scoppa's act alone, or did they have support from Toronto?


They became isolated in recent years in particular after the murder of Andrew's right hand Steve Ovadia, aka The Jew or Ghost, murdered in June last year.
But indeed in 2016, a source told the police that Andrew and his brother Salvatore would have received the approval of Toronto and Italy, that they would be the leaders of the Montreal Mafia and "the decision-makers".
Remember, however, that this is source information and that it has not been proven or tested in court.


I don't think Torono can dictate who is in charge in Montreal. This is the same bullshit that was said in 2010.
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/14/19 01:56 PM

Word is that completing groups out of Ontario and Quebec both welched on a deal with cartel in 2014 with serious implications. Hence the mysterious help of FBI DEA and Homeland to solve the murder of Angelo Musitano, Homeland Security solving a hit in Hamilton??? Danny Ranieri executed in Mexico as well
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/14/19 01:58 PM

Wrong Toronto we have to consider Bay Street (Legal Weed) etc. and whatever Hollywood types. Reasons being major consumers of drugs and fronts
Posted By: PetroPirelli

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/14/19 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by MolochioInduced
Word is that completing groups out of Ontario and Quebec both welched on a deal with cartel in 2014 with serious implications. Hence the mysterious help of FBI DEA and Homeland to solve the murder of Angelo Musitano, Homeland Security solving a hit in Hamilton??? Danny Ranieri executed in Mexico as well


Never heard of '14 deal but that makes a lot of sense. Thanks for insight, Molo.
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/14/19 02:40 PM

No prob bro! Yayo from South America and the Poppy from Afghanistan and everything and everyone in between.
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/14/19 02:51 PM

Group of Bikers out of Quebec, Richard Gervais was a name of a dead HA that is tied to them and group of Bikers in Hamilton went in on some keys and where gonna front through a fitness facilities that went bankrupt. They blamed each other and the mob, then Verducci gets whacked. From there everyone has watched. The internal HA stuff has been sandwiched between the mob hits of 2016, doesn’t get mentioned for whatever reason. The prez and VP of HA Nomads in Ontario were both shot in 2016, in between Giordano and Sollecito give or take
Posted By: PetroPirelli

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/14/19 03:24 PM

Originally Posted by MolochioInduced
Group of Bikers out of Quebec, Richard Gervais was a name of a dead HA that is tied to them and group of Bikers in Hamilton went in on some keys and where gonna front through a fitness facilities that went bankrupt. They blamed each other and the mob, then Verducci gets whacked. From there everyone has watched. The internal HA stuff has been sandwiched between the mob hits of 2016, doesn’t get mentioned for whatever reason. The prez and VP of HA Nomads in Ontario were both shot in 2016, in between Giordano and Sollecito give or take


I remember when the papers mentioned that some of the hits were cartel related but only that the cartel was looking to muscle in on Canada and take out the guys they have been supplying and replace them with their own guys.
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/14/19 03:39 PM

That Gervais guy had a brother in Hamilton at the time that was close with politicians and cops....there is nothing easier to purchase or greedier than cops and politicians. They can be purchased with promises of profits as well, like this scenario. Without the profits because the deal failed, even the politicians and cops need to cover their asses. Antonio Sergi was prospecting buildings in Hamilton for legal weed growing with an East End politician, then he like a lot of others since Jan 2014 have been silenced. Hamilton is a major access point in Ontario with borders at Windsor and Buffalo that have to pass through it to get to TO, The cartel was promised this would be successful created and it wasn't, who really wants to admit that they mislead the cartel, and messed them over, nobody not politicians, cops of anyone else
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/14/19 03:51 PM

Last point it’s too nice outside where I am to post all afternoon, but Mom Boucher was voted out of the HAs in March 2014. Add that to the timeline of what has occurred as well as Walter Stadnik being released in December 2014 back to Hamilton
Posted By: PetroPirelli

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/14/19 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by MolochioInduced
Last point it’s too nice outside where I am to post all afternoon, but Mom Boucher was voted out of the HAs in March 2014. Add that to the timeline of what has occurred as well as Walter Stadnik being released in December 2014 back to Hamilton


Very interesting information. Seems to fit in with everything that has gone down and is currently going down. Enjoy your day, Molo. Thanks for the insight.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/14/19 09:00 PM

Originally Posted by Sonny_Black
Originally Posted by Hollander
Originally Posted by mike68
So did the Scoppa's act alone, or did they have support from Toronto?


They became isolated in recent years in particular after the murder of Andrew's right hand Steve Ovadia, aka The Jew or Ghost, murdered in June last year.
But indeed in 2016, a source told the police that Andrew and his brother Salvatore would have received the approval of Toronto and Italy, that they would be the leaders of the Montreal Mafia and "the decision-makers".
Remember, however, that this is source information and that it has not been proven or tested in court.


I don't think Torono can dictate who is in charge in Montreal. This is the same bullshit that was said in 2010.


Hehe..at least they are consistent.
Posted By: Bobbybacala

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/15/19 07:19 AM

Originally Posted by MolochioInduced
Word is that completing groups out of Ontario and Quebec both welched on a deal with cartel in 2014 with serious implications. Hence the mysterious help of FBI DEA and Homeland to solve the murder of Angelo Musitano, Homeland Security solving a hit in Hamilton??? Danny Ranieri executed in Mexico as well


Wow the u.s helped with the angelo musitano murder? You got a article?
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/15/19 10:46 AM

Same with the attempted hit on Diego Serrano’s son and the murder of his son’s girlfriend

https://www.thespec.com/news-story/...itano-murder-police-hunt-for-two-others/
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/15/19 10:49 AM

Same group of conspirators, no one has asked why Saverio Serrano was targeted first and why when the hit failed Musitano was targeted next
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/15/19 10:50 AM

Killers are from Hamilton according to the cops
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/16/19 09:18 PM

Le cartel d’El Chapo gagne du terrain à Montréal:

https://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2019/11/16/le-cartel-del-chapo-gagne-du-terrain-a-montreal
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/17/19 01:49 PM

Not surprising should be concerning for those who created the scenario where the competing cartels in Mexico, work together to finalize the collection of the groups in Canada that tried to burn them out of their money but more importantly pipeline. Playing the parts of polished business men, when your not especially when the business is Narcotics is suicidal
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/17/19 05:06 PM

Criminal fire at a Montreal pizzeria

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...iminel-dans-une-pizzeria-de-montreal.php
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/18/19 10:00 PM

Mihale Leventis is nearing extradition to the United States

Detained since December 2012, 43-year-old Leventis is awaiting trial for gangsterism, conspiracy, drug trafficking and weapons possession following his arrest in the wake of the Loquace project in which the Sûreté du Québec dismantled a consortium. six individuals who allegedly attempted to monopolize Canada's cocaine distribution monopoly in violence, according to police theory.

But in parallel with Canadian proceedings, the Americans asked for his extradition in 2014. They suspect him of co-leading an organization that allegedly exported 2,000 kilograms of marijuana a week to the United States, especially to New York and Boston, according to court documents.

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...oche-dune-extradition-aux-etats-unis.php
Posted By: thebigfella

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/19/19 10:57 PM

Do the Montreal mafia still have any guy's left that's made into the bonanno's?
Posted By: pmac

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/19/19 11:05 PM

rizzuto"s kid leonardo if his father did his induction. he might have severd ties with the massinos family but big picture he was still a member of the nyc 5 families rite?
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/19/19 11:31 PM

Originally Posted by thebigfella
Do the Montreal mafia still have any guy's left that's made into the bonanno's?


If the Montreal Mafia chart on pp. 37 and 38 of Daniel Renaud's Cellule 8002 vs mafia is accurate -- the chart depicted a number of made and non-made men as of 2004 (I have guessed that the chart reflects the situation shortly after January 20, 2004, which was the date of Vito Rizzuto's arrest) -- there are three made men still alive who were likely made into the Bonanno Family: Francesco Arcadi, Antonio Van(n)elli, and Antonio Mucci.
Posted By: thebigfella

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/20/19 12:18 AM

So if all 3 of these gus is out of the picture then how can anyone get made? How can it still be costra nostra?
Posted By: Moscone65

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/20/19 07:58 AM

Whoever was made by nick Rizzuto sr, is cosa nostra, and I’m sure there’s a few of those guys left. Also, whoever vito made is still cosa nostra. Just because it’s not related to the bonnanos doesn’t mean it’s not “official”. I doubt most Canadian wiseguys give a shit if they were considered made by New York wiseguys, they are their own entity, just like Chicago or Detroit.
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/20/19 11:38 AM

The Rizzutos are from the West Coast of Sicily which is a very traditional/influential area when it comes to Cosa Nostra
Cosa Nostra isn’t something you become it’s something that you are, meaning blood
Joe Bonnano is the same all of the men who started LCN in the USA and Canada were the same, equal as Men of Respect and honour
Over in Sicily it’s the same because blood is always blood regardless of where it goes, it’s still property of Sicily itself
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/23/19 10:09 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment
https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...els-mexicains-pourrait-toucher-le-quebec

A wave of settlements linked to the dangerous Mexican drug cartels could hit Quebec and the rest of Canada.

This is the warning given to police by the Criminal Intelligence Service Canada (CISC) in a report on the current state of the narcotics market that Le Journal has obtained.

We learn that the murder of Montrealer Philipos Kollaros, shot in La Petite-Patrie last fall, was not an isolated act.

Kollaros was an ex-client of Sinaloa's cartel leader, Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman.

"An abnormal number of high-level cocaine importers in Canada who have links to Mexican cartels ... have been recently killed in Mexico and Canada," reports the Royal Canadian Mounted Police agency.
CISC did not specify the exact number of victims.

In addition to this Quebecker, at least three drug traffickers from western Canada have been shot dead for 11 months while in Mexico.
This series of events suggests to the SCRC that Mexican cartels are "trying to eliminate competition" or restructuring their "operational cells in Canada" by getting rid of unwanted associates.
"If this is confirmed, we can expect an increase in violent incidents," warns the police agency that informs the country's law enforcement agencies.

CISC recalls that Mexican and Colombian cartels are responsible for "almost all cocaine" imported by Canadian organized crime.

The influence of Mexican cartels on Canada's drug market will not diminish, despite last winter's conviction of El Chapo for exporting more than $ 14 billion worth of drugs to the United States.

On the contrary, in addition to cocaine, "Mexican cartel officials are exporting more and more methamphetamine, heroin and fentanyl to Canada," says SCRC.

Kollaros, who was killed in a café on Beaubien Street, had privileged contacts that enabled him to negotiate the importation of massive amounts of cocaine with the Sinaloa cartel, according to our Investigation Bureau.

He and his accomplices, however, had been the targets of major police operations and had seized several hundred pounds of drugs.
At the El Chapo trial in New York, it was learned that the latter also wanted to liquidate a Montreal associate real estate broker, Stephen Tello, who was suspected of stealing narcodollars from the cartel.

But Tello was arrested for importing drugs and sentenced to 15 years in Toronto in May 2018.

SOME IMPORTERS KILLED
December 5, 2018

Jodh Singh Manj of Vancouver, a member of a gang called United Nations, is shot while leaving a gymnasium in Mexico City.

November 6, 2018

Philipos Kollaros, 38, an importer of cocaine linked to Sinaloa's Mexican cartel, is murdered at Café Cubano, in the neighborhood of La Petite-Patrie, Montreal.

August 24, 2018

Nabil Alkhalil, also of Vancouver and associated with the gang of drug traffickers Wolf Pack, dies riddled with bullets at a car dealership in Mexico City.

August 17, 2018

Giuseppe Bugge, a close associate of the British Columbia Hells Angels, is shot dead in a shopping center in Guadalajara, western Mexico.



You will need to sign up for a free pressreader.com account to read the article to which I've linked below. If you already have an account, you shouldn't have any problem.

"Canada's Cocaine Cowboys"

https://www.pressreader.com/canada/national-post-latest-edition/20191123/page/6
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/25/19 05:54 PM

Any other way to read this article, hopefully those who turn to burn the cartels will sense the danger approaching, this is already as serious as it can get
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/25/19 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by MolochioInduced
Any other way to read this article, hopefully those who turn to burn the cartels will sense the danger approaching, this is already as serious as it can get


The article was put up online just several hours ago on the National Post website and related Postmedia sites. Here's the link:

https://nationalpost.com/news/world...-all-the-way-to-mexican-kingpin-el-chapo

If you want to try reading the article again on pressreader.com, let me know whether the following link works:

https://www.pressreader.com/canada/national-post-latest-edition/20191123/page/6/textview
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/25/19 07:06 PM

I couldn’t find it on the Press Reader, Thanks. Will definitely review the newest article
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/25/19 07:22 PM

Outside of the commonly accepted circles, who else did Rizzuto meet with upon leaving prison and returning home. He must of spoke to Sicilians in Sicily that more than likely still alive. Wasn’t Bravo murdered in Sicily and was going through Sicily professing loyalty to others, not Rizzuto himself
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/25/19 07:57 PM

Here the video and recording of Bravo, Danny Ranieri was the of the people I believe Bravo is referring to. Ranieri was found dead in Mexico, and was being considered in the Musitano murder and attempt murder of Diego Serrano’s son


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gJFAVbxtSl4
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/25/19 09:09 PM

Listen to how Gregory Woolley started out in Montreal street gangs in northern Montreal to becoming one of Vito Rizzuto's closest associates at a turning point in Rizzuto's life.

https://montrealgazette.com/news/gangs-of-montreal-episode-4-rise-of-the-street-gangs
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/25/19 10:23 PM

Thanks, also I believe Nicolo Jr was close with the Nomads especially Norman Robitaille, who was taking class in University in Toronto, while in a halfway house. I believe Donald Stockford also was in halfway house in Toronto

Interesting that his parole was revoked, the did the same thing to Walter Stadnik

https://www.thespec.com/news-story/5267329-infamous-hamilton-hells-angel-stadnick-out-of-jail/

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/montrea...-required-to-reside-at-halfway-house/amp
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/27/19 09:54 PM

listening to the podcast, it brought up a point that I wanted to confirm. They state that Woolley couldn’t be HA because he is black and HA is white only club. Why are there non-white HA members in Canada, a non-white HA was killed in BC not too long ago.
Do Canada Hells Angels not have follow the rest of the world club?non white members??peace with Outlaws in Ontario?

What has changed, new presidents and leadership??

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/vancouv...d-in-shooting-near-south-surrey-mall/amp
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/28/19 12:28 PM

MolochioInducted

Woolley could never became a full-patch Hells Angels, probably because of the jail and prison politics from California. In California, I guess the Hells Angels hang with the AB in prison, so having a black member in jail could be a problem. Some canadians bikers were put in jail in the US, because of drug accusations, so imagine a black hells angels from Canada, most be extrated in an american prison, were the Hells Angels are with the Aryan Brotherhood....this would cause a lot of problems.

Theirs a video on youtube, where a snitch from the hells angels of Quebec, talked about a meeting, where a high member of the Hells Angels ask during the meeting, if they could make all the members of the Syndicates, full patch members of the Hells, and it was refused, for the same things that couldn’t make Woolley an Hells.

In Quebec, you got many black members, mostly street gangs members, that are part of an gang and also are members of a puppet club of the Hells. In some articles are videos from the news of Quebec you can see black members with their cuts.
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/28/19 01:24 PM

I agreed from what I know as well, thanks for the clarification. San Quentin and Folsom being the major prison yards in California. The Aryan Brothers are the elite of White gangs in prison. So now that there non-white HAs in Canada, does this cause problems with California HAs and AB

What has changed where this allowed, did California and AB agree or is Canada HAs making their own rules, if so, isn’t that dangerous
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/28/19 01:41 PM

In Europe you see more and more non-white HA members in Germany led that to a feud between the old school German bikers and a huge turkish faction. The Biker world in general has changed a lot.
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/28/19 01:50 PM

Cool, that was my next line of thought, being Europe, especially with the Far Right. I would only assume it would be a problem there. Where like prison your skin is even more important than your patch, obviously not the same in Canada
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/28/19 02:43 PM

Well I don’t think the US hells angels has a non-white policy, they have a non-black policy.
Theirs some hispanic hells angels in the US.
The rapper Mike P look mexican, and look like he’s a member of the California Hells angels.
You can look his videos on youtube.
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/28/19 02:57 PM

I guess the definition of white varies when prison life is always a reality, harder to do with black. Maybe prison life is different in Canada, then here in the states. It seems like the prison yard does dictate to the street in US, not in Canada?

What if they start to focus on Canada, looking to implement these policies, I believe Cazzetta and Boucher both were Popeyes, very white 1%er
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/28/19 04:05 PM

I’ll talk about montreal cuz i’m from there, but also lived in toronto for a while.

The criminal underworld politic un Quebec is very different than parts in the US.
The street dictate more what happen in the yard, than the yard dictate what happen in the streets.
In Quebec, the jail/prison have sections separated by group affiliations. You have blocs that are occupied by the hells angles, blocs for the RM, blocs for the bloods and blocs for the crips. An exemple, how the street affect the prison system, since theirs more crips members and neighborhood in Montreal, you have more crips blocs in jail.

Also for the Popeyes that were very white 1%er.
Lets not forget that before the 80s, the criminal world un Quebec, was purely white. You had french-canadians, italians and irish and that it. Theirs an article, that said before 85, their was only one black guy in the prison of bordeaux.
So the Popeyes could say they were really just white, but their was no « black » criminal world in the province of quebec.

Black criminal world started in the mid-80s, with the jamaicans in the west of montreal, and after the haitians in the east of montreal.

You won’t have the politics in Quebec like the ones in California based on race. The new Hells angels et the new members of the Mafia grew up with haitians, algerians and others.
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/28/19 04:20 PM

Cool, so does the Mafia have have non white members or do they still follow their own rules. Is this why Mom Boucher was stabbed in prison and thrown out of the new style of HA in Canada, who are the leaders of HA in Canada, I know of the nickname of National President it’s Truck. Apparently he has the ability to threaten enemies of the club being to get cops to damage them. Out relationship with cops is something else that isn’t tolerated in California, etc.

The fearsome reputation of the Brand, Mexican Mafia etc, enables them to dictate to the street. So the fearsome reputation of street gangs/Hell’s dictates to the yard that skin doesn’t matter the same in Canada
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/28/19 04:31 PM

For the rules about the mafia, you should talk with a person from the italian community of montreal. Because I couldn’t say if theirs non-italian that are made men. Some people say that Desjardins was a made men, like some people said that Woolley wqs a full patch. I think that members from those criminal groups only have the answers to those questions.

The real leaders, also members could answer those questions. The news give us some hints, but they are not 100% sure.

The skin thing in the US is not like Canada. Yes theirs racism. And yes you can have conflicts between skin colors or nationalities. But not like the prison system in the US. Even if the Canadian criminal world is influence by groups from the US. The criminal world in Canada has its own history and background.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/28/19 04:42 PM

You had conflicts between ethnic groups, like all the criminal world around the globes.
But in montreal it didn’t became a full race or ethnic war. You had conflicts between jaimacan gangs and haitians gangs in montreal, like you had a beef between Jamcains and Somalis gangs in Toronto. You had beef between the Hells and the Bloods in Montreal, who could had been seen like a French-canadians vs haitians, but the hells were cool with the crips. Same thing with the beef between haitians and italians.
You had beef between Irish and jamaicans in West of montreal.
So you had conflicts, but it was more a gang thing. Not a full race war
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/28/19 04:59 PM

That’s interesting, you have shed some light on things that the need them. Regarding the attempts on Luppino members in Hamilton 2018 and murder 2019, the conversation of HA and street gangs being responsible has been considered, this info makes it even more possible. They seem to make the rules, that most other places don’t follow, and killing an innocent family member of Luppino is a another rule that was disregarded. Also return of Stadnik to Hamilton who is well received by the families in Hamilton, is a problem for the new HA club in Canada?

Where does the power base come from to be able to behave like this?Toronto, Montreal or Wolfpack. It isn’t California or Europe with hardcore far right HA

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5118200
https://www.thespec.com/news-story/...e-of-suspect-in-mob-hit-of-cece-luppino/
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/28/19 05:09 PM



That CeCe Luppino was retaliation for the killing of Antonio Maggi, who most consider is part of the plot to kill Nick Rizzuto Jr, and Haitian Leader in Quebec was trigger on that murder. He was killed in August 2014. It’s not Vendetta for some it’s business, for others the business is Vendetta or has become Vendetta.


https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/mobile/gang-leader-gunned-down-in-st-michel-1.1943647
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/28/19 05:28 PM

I don’t know nothing about the landscape of Hamilton. All I see is that theirs a mob war, some of the hitmen are from Quebec. And the implication of the Wolfpack from Vancouver.

For the power base, for the canadian biker world probably between Quebec and British Colombia.

For the Mafia the war in Montreal changed everything in the criminal world. The hamilton war is probably a repercussion from montreal.
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/28/19 05:47 PM

I agree that everything has to do with the discussion that occurred prior to moving on Rizzuto, the discussion that happened during his incarnation in US, the discussion he had when he returned, and the discussion since he left. Does anyone know how Milan and Nick sr P2 relationship with influential Black Nobilty plays into the Charbonneau Commission Investigation. Black Nobility being Papal bloodlines, Orsini, Medici, Sforza etc. Specifically Michael Degroote from Hamilton, who is billionaire also know for a sour deal on Casino on Dominican with Rizzuto, also Platinum Sports Betting




https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.vic...ngels-have-a-hard-on-for-sports-gambling


https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.2929109
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nUqqROQwcwY
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/28/19 05:57 PM

As well Tony Iavarone from Hamilton’s relationship with new HA in Quebec, he has now boss in Hamilton after Violis in prison and attack on Luppino with Quebec street gangs maybe influence or partners with new HA in Quebec. He is there guy in Hamilton, Iavarone attended new HA royal wedding in Quebec

https://montrealgazette.com/gallery/gallery-a-hells-angels-wedding


https://www.google.ca/amp/s/montrea...g-dealers-daughter-marry-in-montreal/amp
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/28/19 11:00 PM

As Sonny Barger once put it in an interview "Every Hells Angels chapter is autonomous" meaning they make their own set of rules and bylaws which are based on a standard set of rules from the National Chapter in their area. This simply means each chapter is self-governed and independent.

In other words each individual chapter can decide what rules they follow and can vote on who they want to be members including women. True many blacks are turned down only because they have their own black clubs they can join and some just aren't biker material. Its not about being in a gang which is why many people no matter what color they are have to be turned down. Most clubs select who they want to join and most citizens don't just knock on the door of the Hells Angels and beg to be members. In other words you have to establish yourself first by getting credibility and respect in the biker world this is usually done by knowing someone personally that is a patchholder, rubbing shoulders at local bars for a few years or by joining a Support Club or Puppet Club of a larger MC and work your way up into a prestigious and worldly recognized Club like the Bandidos, Hells Angels or Outlaws.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/28/19 11:05 PM

Sergio Picirilli victime d’une tentative de meurtre au pénitencier

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-tentative-de-meurtre-au-penitencier.php


Un influent criminel empoisonné en prison

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2019/11/28/un-influent-criminel-empoisonne-en-prison-1
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/28/19 11:15 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Sergio Picirilli victime d’une tentative de meurtre au pénitencier

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-tentative-de-meurtre-au-penitencier.php


Un influent criminel empoisonné en prison

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2019/11/28/un-influent-criminel-empoisonne-en-prison-1


Wow another poisoning inside like De Vito.
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/29/19 07:21 AM

Having that type of structure must help against RICO, is there a similar law in Canada?
Having met people from both HA and Outlaws and the hate they have for each other, it’s hard to grasp how in Canada, specifically Ontario how they can co-exist. There is little chance that would happen in America or anywhere else in the world. One suggestion that is being made is that both the HA and Outlaws in Ontario have similar enemies being the mob.

An enemy of a enemy is a friend of mine, type of ideology. An angle that can help explain the wars in Quebec and Ontario.


Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/29/19 07:26 AM

Prior to Papalia and Rizzuto death the mob had a dominance in both provinces, now with the bikers in charges, it seems they will do anything to maintain power including changing rules. Non-whites in club, openingly working with LE, as well as your enemy. Regardless others have and are documenting it and taking notice. Very interesting no matter what.
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/29/19 07:48 AM

It’s near impossible to believes that Harry Bowman and Ralph Barger could coexist in Florida or California or anywhere else. Maybe it’s just different to be 1%er in Canada. Would they be able to coexist if Outlaws expand back into Quebec?

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/lfpress...ging-as-outlaws-boss-freed-on-charge/amp
Posted By: Bobbybacala

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/29/19 09:31 AM

Originally Posted by MolochioInduced


That CeCe Luppino was retaliation for the killing of Antonio Maggi, who most consider is part of the plot to kill Nick Rizzuto Jr, and Haitian Leader in Quebec was trigger on that murder. He was killed in August 2014. It’s not Vendetta for some it’s business, for others the business is Vendetta or has become Vendetta.


https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/mobile/gang-leader-gunned-down-in-st-michel-1.1943647








Wasn't cece retaliation for ang musitano?
Posted By: Bobbybacala

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/29/19 09:42 AM

Originally Posted by MolochioInduced
Having that type of structure must help against RICO, is there a similar law in Canada?
Having met people from both HA and Outlaws and the hate they have for each other, it’s hard to grasp how in Canada, specifically Ontario how they can co-exist. There is little chance that would happen in America or anywhere else in the world. One suggestion that is being made is that both the HA and Outlaws in Ontario have similar enemies being the mob.

An enemy of a enemy is a friend of mine, type of ideology. An angle that can help explain the wars in Quebec and Ontario.




This shit is fucking weird man I know for a fact the hells Angel's work with the ndrangheta at least in Woodbridge
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/29/19 09:50 AM

Don’t know for sure about retaliation for Musitano, nothing like this is cut and dry. In the states HA and Outlaws they would never co-exist. In Canada they do, in southern Italy and the rest of the world CN and Ndrangheta never fight, in Canada they do. Something is different up there, and people aren’t stupid, especially criminals. The see trends and irregularities are becoming obvious
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/29/19 09:56 AM

Similar to the fear of zips in NYC in the past, upsetting business with their foreign ways. It appears the same if people identify with being Canada or the different rules in Canada, then they will stick together. Joe Massino during his rise basically removed the zips/pizza connection at the time, to ensure that Americans not Sicilians were in charge, that could explain this
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/29/19 09:58 AM

What about the Outlaws do they work with Ndrangheta as well?
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/29/19 10:03 AM

Do you know anything outside of what has been reported on the killing Tony Iavarone brother Albert who also was an innocent victim?


https://www.thespec.com/news-story/...bert-iavarone-asks-to-be-left-in-peace-/

Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/29/19 10:26 AM

The retaliation for Musitano leaves out the fact that the same shooters and conspirators attempted to murder Diego Serrano’s son Saverio 6 weeks before Musitano in the Woodbridge, and Diego Serrano is Ndrangheta busted 2015. If it’s the Violi/Luppino who got Musitano murder, then they tried to murder Saverio Serrano and instead murdered his girlfriend Mila Barberi. What is the link between Musitano and Serrano and why did Violi/Luppino want both dead?

Did they also get Tony Large murdered he was doing business in Hamilton. He is Ndrangheta from the Woodbridge?

Great line of thinking Bacala, thanks bro
Posted By: LuanKuci

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/29/19 10:59 AM

I highly doubt LCN in Canada would break such a fundamental rule and “make” non-Italians.
Chances were Desjardins and Bravo were given the “Outfit treatment”: highly respected non-Italians with a bigger clout.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/29/19 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Sergio Picirilli victime d’une tentative de meurtre au pénitencier

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-tentative-de-meurtre-au-penitencier.php


Un influent criminel empoisonné en prison

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2019/11/28/un-influent-criminel-empoisonne-en-prison-1


Daniel Renaud had written an article about Piccirilli just several days ago:

Sergio Piccirilli débouté en appel

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...5-sergio-piccirilli-deboute-en-appel.php
Posted By: Gambler007

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/29/19 11:23 PM

Picirilli was another Rizutto enemy . Could he be part of that famous Rizutto hit list? he was never one to conform with anyone. Seeing the continuation of hits going on , how the hell is desjardins still standing!
Posted By: Bobbybacala

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/30/19 04:12 AM

Originally Posted by MolochioInduced
What about the Outlaws do they work with Ndrangheta as well?


Outlaws I dont know but h.a and ndrangheta for sure in the Woodbridge chapter
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/30/19 09:18 PM

Nice, thanks Bacala. Do you or anyone else know if the Figliomeni that were busted in the Woodbridge area are related to the Filgliomeni from Railway St/Rocco Perri crew. They either used last name Ross or Romeo, lived on different street than Railway . Two brothers one killed the other. Related could be through archangel Mike and/or the piccolo Tony Papalia. Something to do with Stella and Holy Mother
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/30/19 09:29 PM

I think Tony Pugliese is still around married the daughter of Tony and Maria Papalia, I believe, not too sure. He might be able to confirm or deny if it’s true or not
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/30/19 09:56 PM

Also I gotta go, is that Cosimo Quail Commiso I think got released from prison in Naples and Rocco Papalia got released from prison in Milan recently

The killing of Mila Barber by mistake, and the killing of Cosimo Commiso and wife. One has a mistake undertone then other southern Italy as man and woman both targeted.


Wolfpack=HA using street gangs? Or are they partners?Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver street gangs for hire? Street gang members shooters of Luppino for sure.

Article states a war between HA and mob in the Woodbridge as well. Could explain HA& Outlaws maybe all 1%ers (Loners, Bacchus, new Red Devils) not fighting, and mostly Mobsters and family being hurt

https://www.voiceonline.com/ontario-spillover-effect/
Posted By: Bobbybacala

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/30/19 10:50 PM

Originally Posted by MolochioInduced
Nice, thanks Bacala. Do you or anyone else know if the Figliomeni that were busted in the Woodbridge area are related to the Filgliomeni from Railway St/Rocco Perri crew. They either used last name Ross or Romeo, lived on different street than Railway . Two brothers one killed the other. Related could be through archangel Mike and/or the piccolo Tony Papalia. Something to do with Stella and Holy Mother


I don't know but figliomeni is a very common last name in calabria
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/30/19 11:33 PM

Ok, it’s a specific blood, pretty sure there were Commisso in Hamilton at that time, but regardless it’s all blood from the same geographic area. Pretty sure marriage is based on blood=respect and honor, same for man and woman
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/01/19 05:36 PM

Posted this another thread, others might find it appropriate here, if not I apologize.


After all the great discussions and information that has been shared. I have been able to acquire the following, and am hoping that others will help confirm or disqualify the following

For I have been told is that 1%ers have been using Martial Arts schools for decades as fronts for the business of OC, similar to the mob and boxing. With this new thing MMA that the bikers have continued the trend and use MMA as their fronts for drugs, pimping and recruiting women/children, as well as talent.

The interesting part is the people that also use it as a front for shared interest/business that usually couldn’t associated. The MMA community enables cops, bikers and government to work together without others/competition being aware. This disguised relationship already provides a platform where they have a shared business interests that need to be protected the front, so their shared business of criminality can thrive

Adrian Woolley, President of Peel Police Association, former Canadian MMA champ, was trained in a school Iron Tiger or Combat something owner of the school is a high level friend of HA , apparently full patch HA were always visible, nickname OneEye, also guy from Cambridge, don’t know if the city even exists, named Mitch. School in the Woodbridge, Double Dragon, being moving drugs since 80’s, Rick or Mickey is owner. Legendary Martial Arts Rick Joslin from Hamilton, full patch original Red Devil, was seen being photographed in 2008ish with table of full patch HA at fight shown in Ontario. Mark Stables full patch HA, owned MMA school Mecca in Toronto, got deported now in Mexico, I was told. Guy name Danny Moroney runs MMA school the Woodbridge, brother is full patch HA.

Stephen Patry, legend in Quebec MMA, brother was HA who fought Rock Machine, was George St Pierre manager, until he lost first fight. In 2009, promotion in Quebec XMMA, shut down because HA front. The timing is the same as major HA bust 2009 in Quebec. With the HAs that were busted then now getting out this could be part of all the violence, without fronts the business of criminals doesn’t work.

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.mixedmartialarts.com/forums/amp/UnderGround/XMMA--Hells-Angels:1470263

The MMA schools either pay a tax or front for the bikers, since the MMA industry has grown, so has the potential for profits. The network is almost exclusively bikers and cops. Which can explain the biker harmony in Ontario, HA/Outlaws etc, protect shared business. Also the cross province Ontario vs Quebec HA fight, as released HAs want back what is theirs. MMA was originated in Quebec in Canada, and was illegal in Ontario until 2010, since then it really has been a huge failure. The Ontario group refusing to acknowledge Quebec superiority. Now with 95 HA Nomads being released the stakes are as high as they get. Rizzuto was king when MMA started in Quebec and thrived, was close with Mom Boucher and other 95 Nomads. Could be an angle that when explained to me, seems very plausible

The MMA industries growth also opens up revenue to laundry money via the media HA Ontario President?Joe Ertel, and guy named Harold have ties to Rogers, Tsn, Sportsnet. Enables to control the narrative in the media, potentially everything that is written or spoken in Ontario media, as which people get to front for them, the big money in the province of Ontario
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/01/19 05:44 PM

Also major MMA club was being built in Hamilton 2014, place was a bust over a million put into it to front for HA union from Ontario and Quebec. Guy named Jim Flood was the project boss, martial arts champ on 90’s lots of ties to bikers, was trying to get a loan from Musitano’s in 2014, to keep the front going. Don’t know if he got the loan, but some drugs got ripped off from cartel, maybe Ranieri was involved he is dead found in Mexico and shooters of Musitano also fled there.
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/01/19 05:45 PM

Most likely Wolf Pack members were in Hamilton through the time the project was started until it went bankrupt
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/01/19 06:03 PM

The Figliomeni are a force one of them even became the Mayor of Siderno. He visited Australia and Canada several times.

https://www.occrp.org/en/27-ccwatch...ayor-gets-12-years-for-mafia-association
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/01/19 08:45 PM

Do any Montreal-area posters know what happened at the Semolina restaurant in Anjou last night? According to Quebec business-registry records, the owner is a Filippo Iacono. If this incident were related to Italian organized crime, we would have found out by now. So I'm guessing this is something else.

1 dead, 3 injured in shooting at east end Montreal reception hall

https://globalnews.ca/news/6240599/montreal-shooting-reception-hall/
Posted By: Bobbybacala

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/02/19 04:46 AM

Originally Posted by MolochioInduced
Posted this another thread, others might find it appropriate here, if not I apologize.


After all the great discussions and information that has been shared. I have been able to acquire the following, and am hoping that others will help confirm or disqualify the following

For I have been told is that 1%ers have been using Martial Arts schools for decades as fronts for the business of OC, similar to the mob and boxing. With this new thing MMA that the bikers have continued the trend and use MMA as their fronts for drugs, pimping and recruiting women/children, as well as talent.

The interesting part is the people that also use it as a front for shared interest/business that usually couldn’t associated. The MMA community enables cops, bikers and government to work together without others/competition being aware. This disguised relationship already provides a platform where they have a shared business interests that need to be protected the front, so their shared business of criminality can thrive

Adrian Woolley, President of Peel Police Association, former Canadian MMA champ, was trained in a school Iron Tiger or Combat something owner of the school is a high level friend of HA , apparently full patch HA were always visible, nickname OneEye, also guy from Cambridge, don’t know if the city even exists, named Mitch. School in the Woodbridge, Double Dragon, being moving drugs since 80’s, Rick or Mickey is owner. Legendary Martial Arts Rick Joslin from Hamilton, full patch original Red Devil, was seen being photographed in 2008ish with table of full patch HA at fight shown in Ontario. Mark Stables full patch HA, owned MMA school Mecca in Toronto, got deported now in Mexico, I was told. Guy name Danny Moroney runs MMA school the Woodbridge, brother is full patch HA.

Stephen Patry, legend in Quebec MMA, brother was HA who fought Rock Machine, was George St Pierre manager, until he lost first fight. In 2009, promotion in Quebec XMMA, shut down because HA front. The timing is the same as major HA bust 2009 in Quebec. With the HAs that were busted then now getting out this could be part of all the violence, without fronts the business of criminals doesn’t work.

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.mixedmartialarts.com/forums/amp/UnderGround/XMMA--Hells-Angels:1470263

The MMA schools either pay a tax or front for the bikers, since the MMA industry has grown, so has the potential for profits. The network is almost exclusively bikers and cops. Which can explain the biker harmony in Ontario, HA/Outlaws etc, protect shared business. Also the cross province Ontario vs Quebec HA fight, as released HAs want back what is theirs. MMA was originated in Quebec in Canada, and was illegal in Ontario until 2010, since then it really has been a huge failure. The Ontario group refusing to acknowledge Quebec superiority. Now with 95 HA Nomads being released the stakes are as high as they get. Rizzuto was king when MMA started in Quebec and thrived, was close with Mom Boucher and other 95 Nomads. Could be an angle that when explained to me, seems very plausible

The MMA industries growth also opens up revenue to laundry money via the media HA Ontario President?Joe Ertel, and guy named Harold have ties to Rogers, Tsn, Sportsnet. Enables to control the narrative in the media, potentially everything that is written or spoken in Ontario media, as which people get to front for them, the big money in the province of Ontario



Yup I dont know if they use it as a front but theres lots of h.a who own mma gyms here, one gym I used to go to one of the fighters stole from the safe the owner is h.a i think the fighter fled Canada. Very interesting it's kind of funny you brought this up because the gym i used to go to is massive and I dont think they were turning a profit the memberships were cheap and they didn't have enough customers I think to run the buildings maintenance costs? Makes sense it could be a front.
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/02/19 10:15 AM

Thanks man, I haven’t done a workout in years, but it sounded possible, figured I would see what people in the province would say. The front portion of business is very important to those who treat crime as a business. The ability for people to network, plot etc (cops, crooks, government) that couldn’t be seen anywhere else together, is what I found interesting.

Hollander
That interesting you mentioned Australia, the Papalia are in Australia as well? If so, the same family names would of been together in Canada since 1910ish

I believe blood is very important to the Calabrese, that is why I was asking Bacala, if the Figliomeni in the Woodbridge were the same as Rocco Perri/Papalia family
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/02/19 10:28 AM

The gym that was going to be in Hamilton was suppose to provide a jump point in Ontario with borders at Detroit and Buffalo. Everything that came in from Mexico through US would of flown through Hamilton. Combo of business(lying, jealousy, etc) and poor leadership destroyed it. Seems like 25 or more keys of blow were lost, aka stole from cartel

Since then it’s been chaos, there was word that it could of been Ranieri involved, and that Musitano was considered being murdered the start of April 2014, Verducci got it first and that the order came from the USA

Last name Bommarito comes up, not related to the ones in Detroit. It could have been a deal mob, bikers, cops and government were in on. After it fell apart, it became a game of keeping the cartel from killing you until they get what they want. Basically blame anyone but yourself
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/02/19 10:51 AM

The deal was agreed to while Rizzuto was alive and was in operation early fall of 2013. It really didn’t start to fall apart until the start of 2014, Rizzuto passed away last week of December 2013 or close to that. Nobody has stated whether Rizzuto was part of this and if this was a result of the meetings Rizzuto had when he returned from prison officially.

But the creation of the axis point would of serve NYC, as well as others, lends to the idea that Rizzuto and NYC came to an agreement, that allowed Rizzuto to finish Vendetta, no confirmation on this yet.

When he died, it was a case of Rome without Caesar, and the ensuing war that has spread is the result.

Beware the Ides of March, type of stuff
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/02/19 11:11 AM

Video of Mom Boucher recently, anyone know why HA voted him out of HA. Also opinion in the streets regarding him and his close relationship with Rizzuto

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=v1HdiQ-G2j8
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/02/19 12:00 PM

The latest word was that the Figliomenis hit Verducci....
But you are saying it came from, the USA? USA like who?
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/02/19 12:07 PM

Also, who was the point man for the Hamilton ops, Verducci? Musitanos? Or Violis?

I think anti mafia said Verducci might have had links to the cartels.....


I've had a long standing theory that the Violis/Bonnanos wanted to build a pipeline, so your line of reasoning is very intriguing to me...
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/02/19 12:14 PM

That could follow, the name philly genovese, don’t know if it’s a person or code. Scarfo and Papalia were tight, both Calabrese, both Cosa Nostra. Figliomeni I am pretty sure the last name of Ross brothers from Rocco Perri crew. They and Tony Pops maybe did Bessy Starkman. Related to Rizzuto meetings and his death, basically the Woodbridge reneged on deal, to work together with jump point in Hamilton. Rather do own thing with Wolfpack and whoever takes their side in province (mob, bikers, cops, media, government)

Calabrese in any honour society are usually related through blood oath to Archangel Michael, not necessarily the Catholic Church.

Ross (Figliomeni) Papalia, Scarfo all Calabrese, all of them also tied through Cosa Nostra confirmation in 1931.
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/02/19 12:17 PM

Not just Bonnanos/ Violi, rather NYC maybe all of the families in USA, southern Italy and Mexico. Rizzuto was/is international would have the ability to structure agreement, in exchange to Vendetta. Rizzuto had reputation as mediator as well
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/02/19 12:23 PM

Guy named Claudio was only Italian around as well as Ross Bommarito, they were suppose to work as one. With Stadnik return to Hamilton at the end of 2014. Guy running the building Jim Flood, lots of ties to bikers, maybe did collecting for them/Papalia in 90’s. Once Rizzuto died the wheels fell off. Guy named Mike Gervais, brother Richard was HA and nephews Phil, who was apparently part of Bandidos Massacre called a crew from Quebec and Kirkland lake. They all hated each other, then the drugs go missing, and no one wants beef with Chapo.

Critical point is that the cops were in on stealing the drugs with I don’t know yet. One name is Stephen Metelsky, was involved with investigation that put Violis away and left their family vulnerable. He is now a college professor at Mohawk College, has a blog that was mainly about Musitano, and was quoted in the paper predicting another mob shooting, days before Iavarone was murdered. The shooters of Musitano and attempt on Serrano were from Mohawk College

Here is Metelsky’s blog

https://underworldstories.com/
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/02/19 12:27 PM

You seen this article?



http://gangstersinc.ning.com/profil...onto-area-canada-hit-but-still-too-power
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/02/19 12:33 PM

No can you please some insight, thank you

Also legal weed seems to be involved, Serrano was legit entrepreneur with legal weed ties, Bommarito guy in Hamilton also legal weed. Tony large was prospecting a building to grow legal weed in Hamilton, with politician Sam Merulla ties to Musitano. Lots of cops are involved with the legal weed business
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/02/19 12:36 PM

NY, plus all the families in Italy?

I dunno, if there is any clan organizing ANYTHING like that, it's the Inzerillo group, my opinion......

You saying the Bikers were organizing a MMA front, paid for with with mafia loans, to move Mexican coke, that I'm assuming they got on consignment, to crime families in Canada and Italy? With it all being orchestrated from the US Cosa Nostra?

I don't know my man....
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/02/19 12:42 PM

It goes into WHY Verducci was hit, the factions that exist within the Mother Locale of Siderno, which of these clans might have been involved in the aggression vs the Rizzutos, the Calabrian clans the Rizzutos were tight with...


It goes into the Mila Barberi hits, just a lot of good info, you should check it out....
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/02/19 12:43 PM

I’m not saying that I am suggesting based on what I hear that the elite families and their members. Most likely organized by Chapo or his representatives, everyone else would of agreed with the terms of the cartel.

It was a co-operative not a biker only, multiple groups invested. I apologize if I am not being clear, also I am not saying this is 100% confirmed, closer to 90% or so
I will check it out, thanks for the info
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/02/19 12:49 PM

Aah, okay no problem, for sure.

It's an interesting hypothesis, it would connect the bikers, mafia, and cartels together, as well as explain some of the violence, the savagery of some of the hits..
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/02/19 01:01 PM

For real, also the shooters in Musitano/Barberi have all fled to Mexico, except for Jabril Abdalla who was arrested. Ranieri they say was involved but was found dead in Mexico and the others can’t be found. You wonder if Abdalla will be silenced. Where is he being held, and if convicted where will he serve. Is it easy to get guys in Canadian prisons?

Lastly, it’s the reason Musitano/Barberi was solved with help from Homeland, DEA and FBI. Prevent cartels from turning Ontario into Tijuana
Posted By: mike68

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/02/19 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by MolochioInduced


That CeCe Luppino was retaliation for the killing of Antonio Maggi, who most consider is part of the plot to kill Nick Rizzuto Jr, and Haitian Leader in Quebec was trigger on that murder. He was killed in August 2014. It’s not Vendetta for some it’s business, for others the business is Vendetta or has become Vendetta.


https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/mobile/gang-leader-gunned-down-in-st-michel-1.1943647









Wait, so the Luppino hit was for Tony Magi, and not a brother for brother with the Musitano's?? Not that any of this is supposed to make sense, but that really doesn't make any sense at all to me. If the Luppino's clipped Magi, then they were on the Rizzuto's side, and also on the Musitano's side? I'd like to see some proof on that one.
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/02/19 05:51 PM

All I know is that Magi was whacked, shortly after that a call from Hamilton PD to Montreal PD about about home invasions on Luppino in Hamilton spring 2018. Within a cpl hours of the call, there is street gang members sitting on CeCe Luppino, who is suppose to be innocent member of family. If I can get proof, I would probably be dead. Related to the cops involvement, hard to prove which/how. Not hard to conceive that the business of crime involves the cops. I apologize I am not looking to spread any disinformation

The deal set up by Chapo or his representatives, doesn’t just involve OC players common thinking. Similar to Mexico or Sicily, the government, cops and power elite are involved in the business. Makes it hard to prove if not impossible. If I was from or in the area maybe it would be easier to confirm or deny everything

The intention is to share what I know or hear, if it’s disproven, I could care less. It’s the best I got if/ when I get anymore if I will definitely share it here

I don’t know who killed Magi, if I did I could be considered some how involved. Regardless, something brought the war to Hamilton. As much as I can offer is what I know so far


In the scenarios where the info seems too ocult, I apologize. The word that is used is allegory, in those instances the info is coming from a Lodge like source in the US. I am only at the position I AM and able share what I know or am told.

Patenaude is another name that has been said multiple times, if that helps.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/02/19 09:00 PM

Originally Posted by MolochioInduced

That interesting you mentioned Australia, the Papalia are in Australia as well? If so, the same family names would of been together in Canada since 1910ish

I believe blood is very important to the Calabrese, that is why I was asking Bacala, if the Figliomeni in the Woodbridge were the same as Rocco Perri/Papalia family


Posters from down under are more knowledgeable than me, but both Papalias and Musitanos have relatives involved in the Calabrian mafia over there many people living there from Delianuova and Platì.
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/02/19 09:54 PM

Thanks, you are right about them being from the same part of Calabria, didn’t know about the Musitano having actives relatives in Italy.

I believe the original Angelo Musitano came to Canada to avoid a murder charge in 1939ish. So Papalia and Musitano would of been in Canada together since.
Posted By: PetroPirelli

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/04/19 08:06 AM

Originally Posted by MolochioInduced
All I know is that Magi was whacked, shortly after that a call from Hamilton PD to Montreal PD about about home invasions on Luppino in Hamilton spring 2018. Within a cpl hours of the call, there is street gang members sitting on CeCe Luppino, who is suppose to be innocent member of family. If I can get proof, I would probably be dead. Related to the cops involvement, hard to prove which/how. Not hard to conceive that the business of crime involves the cops. I apologize I am not looking to spread any disinformation

The deal set up by Chapo or his representatives, doesn’t just involve OC players common thinking. Similar to Mexico or Sicily, the government, cops and power elite are involved in the business. Makes it hard to prove if not impossible. If I was from or in the area maybe it would be easier to confirm or deny everything

The intention is to share what I know or hear, if it’s disproven, I could care less. It’s the best I got if/ when I get anymore if I will definitely share it here

I don’t know who killed Magi, if I did I could be considered some how involved. Regardless, something brought the war to Hamilton. As much as I can offer is what I know so far


In the scenarios where the info seems too ocult, I apologize. The word that is used is allegory, in those instances the info is coming from a Lodge like source in the US. I am only at the position I AM and able share what I know or am told.

Patenaude is another name that has been said multiple times, if that helps.


Jesus, Molo...
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/04/19 09:24 AM

The deal was supposed to bring back stability and whatever type of peace can exist within the business of OC. With all the profit that would have been rolling in. It wasn’t hard for me to conceive it was possible, especially if Rizzuto was able to get the ball rolling with Cartel for the deal, to enable him to Vendetta.

Included with all the attacks on his family, was the fact that his mother and sister witnessed his father death. On top of it all the Sicilian Don has his mother and sister’ honor to restore, and whatever else.

When he died, it was another instance of we or I can do what he does better, as well as all the old feelings of hate, and the general emotions that the OC business provides.

Is there realistically anyone that can do whatever it was that Rizzuto did to bring back stability, or was he right when he predicted the mess that would ensue when he went to prison, and this is just the landscape now?
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/04/19 09:30 AM

I have seen video of Rizzuto walking around a hotel in Dominican after his release, same one he was apparently in on with Canadian billionaire Mike Degroote. Seemed Degroote ripped Rizzuto group off when Rizzuto died. The Dominican Casino and Sports Betting is another underlining current that’s involved, but has yet to be really considered or discussed regarding this war.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/04/19 11:07 PM

Man dead after shooting in downtown Montreal hotel room
Police say witnesses who were in the room are not co-operating with investigation

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/shooting-hotel-downtown-1.5383458?cmp=rss
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/08/19 02:24 PM

Originally Posted by MolochioInduced
listening to the podcast, it brought up a point that I wanted to confirm. They state that Woolley couldn’t be HA because he is black and HA is white only club. Why are there non-white HA members in Canada, a non-white HA was killed in BC not too long ago.
Do Canada Hells Angels not have follow the rest of the world club?non white members??peace with Outlaws in Ontario?

What has changed, new presidents and leadership??

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/vancouv...d-in-shooting-near-south-surrey-mall/amp



https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...malgre-lui-dans-les-mailles-du-filet.php

In this article, theirs a picture of members of one of the hells angels puppet club, the Minotaures. In the picture, you can see the club look to have some black members.
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/08/19 05:23 PM

Thanks, if it’s puppet then they are subordinate to HA? If so and are street gang recruits who can 1%, then is this the tie between HA and streetgang, those types have been implicated if attempts on Pat Musitano and murder of CeCe Luppino, Quebec roots.

The murder of Ang Musitano and Mila Barberi were college students from Hamilton, that fled to Mexico or have been caught. This war is crazy, Ontario-Quebec-Mexico, who knows where else.

It’s starting to show the importance of at least the cities of Toronto, Hamilton and Montreal are to the business of crime.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/09/19 09:18 AM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Man dead after shooting in downtown Montreal hotel room
Police say witnesses who were in the room are not co-operating with investigation

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/shooting-hotel-downtown-1.5383458?cmp=rss


The victim is Brendon Bombia, a 26-year-old man known to the police community as being linked to street gangs.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/09/19 11:30 AM

The Rizzuto clan is back in force
A group of five people has recently regained control of Montreal organized crime

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2019/12/09/le-clan-des-rizzuto-revient-en-force
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/09/19 12:38 PM

Originally Posted by Blackmobs
The Rizzuto clan is back in force
A group of five people has recently regained control of Montreal organized crime

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2019/12/09/le-clan-des-rizzuto-revient-en-force


Good stuff !

Martin Robert
45 years old
Hells Angels, Montreal Chapter
It is the most important Hells Angels in the province. He would be the only Hells in Quebec to have "World" status. This advantage leads him to travel all over the world and make contacts there.
Posted By: BronaZora

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/09/19 01:26 PM

Originally Posted by Blackmobs
The Rizzuto clan is back in force
A group of five people has recently regained control of Montreal organized crime

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2019/12/09/le-clan-des-rizzuto-revient-en-force


The way I read that is exactly what I suspect. Sollecito is the front boss, and Rizzuto seems like the boss in the back. I believe Leonardo is an educated lawyer, it's likely he will be dealing with the high end white collar crime, where as Sollecito will deal with the street stuff.

That alliance with Mirarchi seems rather interesting, Vito did the same in the past with the Cotroni faction, and it looks like the new leaders are taking a page out of that book. It's very smart if everyone holds their end of the bargain, which is a good possibility if things quiet down and business goes good.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/09/19 02:31 PM

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/montrea...sode-6-vito-rizzuto-global-superboss/amp

Good podcast on Vito Rizzuto.

- He made a deal with toronto mobster, because the Hells Angles could be a treat in Ontario.

- He refuse the rank of Capo for the Bonnano family, and ask to put his father instead.
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/09/19 05:14 PM

What an interesting article, not wanting to wear your patch, is something I understand would upset others. With LE harassment, it makes sense not to advertise what you’re involved.

Sal Cazzetta was Rock Machine, that is now HA what a career choice being a professional criminal is, lol. Francesco Acardi is like the last peasant standing of Rizzuto, not an insult either. Nicolò and Vic Rizzuto, Renda born in Sicily, Rocco Sollecito I believe born in Bari and Acardi born in Calabria. All of them are Southern Italian born, if the above is correct.

That could be where this new style of diplomacy is from, the same place that the Fathers and Mothers get it. Also a Southern Italian Zip program could be what is providing the proper structure for the Rizzuto to get back traction and Market Share. The alliances with HA developed by Vito and Nicolò JR, specifically 95 Nomads, seems to of been more Blood than Business and paying off
Posted By: mike68

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/09/19 05:50 PM

The Mirarchi thing is interesting. Perhaps he was further removed from the murders of Vito's father and son, along with Renda, Cuntrera etc.

That being said, I would still have to believe Desjardins continues to be a dead man walking. I can't see how they can allow his betrayal.
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/09/19 06:32 PM

Good point, not to be a broken record, but Mirarchi being Southern Italian, I assume Calabrese. They would benefit from the meetings Rizzuto had after release from Prison, if they stuck to their promises/oaths and the business model.

Ray is different not Southern Italian, plus Bravo talked trash in Sicily about Vito and edified Desjardins. Sicilians killed Bravo, even with Vito dead, the right people know Ray’s name.

I assume this is also why Mom Boucher was convicted of attempted murder of Desjardins earlier this year. You wonder if the Calabrese that were with Desjardins will see the opportunity of playing for blood now, as dictated on the otherside of the Atlantic, opposed to money that has brought problems since. Also if this will help bring some form of stability to the mob in Toronto and Hamilton as well

Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/10/19 12:53 PM

30 murders in 10 years: the crimes of the blood of the mafia

The decade that has ended is bloody in the Montreal mafia. Murders ordered, account settlements, plots and various associations to delight the power at Rizzuto.

In spring 2010, the consigliere of the Sicilians, and Vito Rizzuto's brother-in-law, Paulo Renda, was kidnapped by two fake policemen and a few months later, the patriarch Nick Rizzuto was shot dead at his home. Then, the victims follow one another.
Posted By: vito_andolini

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/10/19 01:13 PM

What an incredible article!

Mirarchi working with he Rizzuto's again is also surprising. It shows that the Scoppa's may have been in conflict with Mirarchi's group too. That way, a possible alliance could have been bridged by the Rizzuto's if they took care of Scoppa, and thus continue working together.

The article mentions both Acradi and Del Balso are active again. The cop interviewed mentioned that "Andrea Scoppa represented instability and Arcadi was stability." Wow, powerful statement. I guess the decision had to be made. It was either one or the other. The Scoppa's took care of Sollecito, Giordano and the Falduto's... maybe they had a plan for Arcadi too and decisions had to be made?

Very interesting to see what's to come of this. If the streets remain quiet for a while, we'll know they have their shit together for the first time in a while. It looks more like the "organized" portion of "organized crime" is making a comeback in Montreal.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/10/19 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by mike68
The Mirarchi thing is interesting. Perhaps he was further removed from the murders of Vito's father and son, along with Renda, Cuntrera etc.

That being said, I would still have to believe Desjardins continues to be a dead man walking. I can't see how they can allow his betrayal.


The Mirarchi clan is still a mystery they seem independent. One of his guys is Francesco Catalano at first I thought he was Sicilian but I now think he may be from Reggio Calabria. They were also linked to the Bertolos who worked for Arcadi. Maybe Compare Franco is now bringing everybody back in the fold.
Posted By: BronaZora

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/10/19 04:20 PM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Originally Posted by mike68
The Mirarchi thing is interesting. Perhaps he was further removed from the murders of Vito's father and son, along with Renda, Cuntrera etc.

That being said, I would still have to believe Desjardins continues to be a dead man walking. I can't see how they can allow his betrayal.


The Mirarchi clan is still a mystery they seem independent. One of his guys is Francesco Catalano at first I thought he was Sicilian but I now think he may be from Reggio Calabria. They were also linked to the Bertolos who worked for Arcadi. Maybe Compare Franco is now bringing everybody back in the fold.


I don't think Mirarchi is independent, he's most likely with the old Cotroni crew or whatever is left from it, based on the evidence, he seemed like Desjardins' protege, so it's going to be interesting to see how this works out given that Desjardins is a marked man and Mirarchi was really close to him.

I have a feeling Mirarchi is pulling out a page from Junior Soprano's book (How he played Richie in favor for Tony). Mirarchi knows who the power is, not only is he saving his own butt in this case, he also sees this as an opportunity to move up. After all, it's better to be a capo of an official crew and be alive rather than back up a non-Italian who is marked for death. Whatever significance Desjardins had, likely was gone when his brother in law (Joe Di Maulo) was hit.

With Arcadi and Del Balso back in the fold, chances are they'll get the muscle crew of the family back in business. Del Balso will probably get bumped to capo of that crew while Arcadi being an old timer will probably move up to some sort of adviser role (Similar to what Rocco Sollecito was before his death). They also have a Cun-trera in their family that will likely lead the drug crew, while Rizzuto/Sollecito will focus on the higher end businesses and carry on where their fathers left off.
Posted By: Moscone65

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/10/19 04:50 PM

Seems like there’s multiple crews again. Possibly Del Balso like you said, Cuntrera, Mirarchi, the guy D’Adamo from lasalle might also have one, Salvaggio is very close to them and high regarded so he may be a capo as well, and I’m probably forgetting a few other people still close with the rizzutos. Seems like even the hells angels are falling in line now that they see the Italians are getting their shit together. I think the rizzutos killed so many people that they basically won the war and everyone is scared and falling in line. It may be early, but it could be a new era for that family as a powerhouse. Whoever wrote them off years ago were fools.
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/10/19 05:03 PM

If they HA are following Rizzuto again, it’s probably related to HA Nomad Stadnik getting off parole. He was HA National President as well in Canada. Rizzuto and HA Nomads 95 were/are close. The way those guys did business, it’s as if they were Sicilians in 1%er clothes.

The way Salvatore Scoppa was murdered was so sensational, if was like something you would see in Naples. If the war amongst the families is cooling or done, the opportunity to allow the Nomads 95 to take back their club might be next or already accomplished.

The people in government that were either involved in Charbonneau Commission or being investigated have probably just went back to business as well
Posted By: Moscone65

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/10/19 05:22 PM

Good points, agreed
Posted By: JoeTadaro

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/10/19 07:09 PM

I always thought that compare frank Arcadi double cross the rizzutos or some shit. Like he tried to take over as boss and failed? If so how is he back in their good graces ?
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/10/19 08:18 PM

Originally Posted by JoeTadaro
I always thought that compare frank Arcadi double cross the rizzutos or some shit. Like he tried to take over as boss and failed? If so how is he back in their good graces ?


Yeah it was about Frank doing cocaine deals without telling the Rizzutos, but that was years ago we don't know about the current situation don't forget his guy Ray Kahno was killed this year.
Posted By: BronaZora

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/10/19 11:29 PM

Originally Posted by JoeTadaro
I always thought that compare frank Arcadi double cross the rizzutos or some shit. Like he tried to take over as boss and failed? If so how is he back in their good graces ?


He might have messed some things up on the street for the family, but I don't think he ever double crossed Vito.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/11/19 02:46 AM

Originally Posted by BronaZora
Originally Posted by JoeTadaro
I always thought that compare frank Arcadi double cross the rizzutos or some shit. Like he tried to take over as boss and failed? If so how is he back in their good graces ?


He might have messed some things up on the street for the family, but I don't think he ever double crossed Vito.


They also depended on him, his crew was the armed arm of the Rizzuto clan.
Posted By: JoeTadaro

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/11/19 10:38 AM

Thanks fellas
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/11/19 10:10 PM

Paris sportifs: la mafia ferme un site qui serait à l’origine d'un suicide

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...te-qui-serait-a-lorigine-dun-suicide.php
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/14/19 10:16 PM

I wouldn't be jumping to believe that just yet unless Mirarchi stabbed Desjardins in the back there is no way he would let Sollecito/Rizzuto murder Raynald because him and Mirarchi are so close. If they decided to work with Mirarchi he had to give up Ray I think IMHO.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/15/19 02:36 AM

Originally Posted by dixiemafia
I wouldn't be jumping to believe that just yet unless Mirarchi stabbed Desjardins in the back there is no way he would let Sollecito/Rizzuto murder Raynald because him and Mirarchi are so close. If they decided to work with Mirarchi he had to give up Ray I think IMHO.


I agree, don't forget Jacques Desjardins the brother of Raynald is missing two years now, def lupara bianca. I won't rule out Ray yet.
Posted By: BronaZora

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/15/19 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by dixiemafia
I wouldn't be jumping to believe that just yet unless Mirarchi stabbed Desjardins in the back there is no way he would let Sollecito/Rizzuto murder Raynald because him and Mirarchi are so close. If they decided to work with Mirarchi he had to give up Ray I think IMHO.


I would not rule out Mirarchi stabbing Desjardins in the back either. He was very close to him, but it's not like they're bound by blood. Remember that Raynald was once close to Vito too, and that did not stop him from double crossing the family and working with the enemy.

If Mirarchi is with the Rizzutos now, it's because he sees it as an opportunity to save his own butt from all these assassinations, and because he can position himself to be something significant in the organization.
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/15/19 05:14 PM

Both make great points. Raynald has the fact that he is French, in a part of a country where French people tend to be in positions of power. More than likely some were part of the plot and attack on Rizzuto. Government, Elite Class type, there must of been an attempt in those circles to remove Rizzuto loyalists.

If that’s what really failed, then Desjardins won’t be safe in prison or anywhere else, unless they went back to the people they were paying and taking money from. It could enable lots of people back into Rizzuto good standing, where the Pizzo flows Is where most people are, meaning the pockets of the boss/bosses.

The fella murder in the Muskoka, Kahno, I heard that it was Desjardins that got it done for whoever, the guy was too lose of a end, and tying him off was the first of many agreements that has got Montreal and maybe now Ontario some stability.
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/15/19 05:35 PM

Group out of TO, Joe Ertel HA and partner Harold have ties to mob in Montreal, don’t think it/was Rizzuto. These guys had a wash company in Toronto on Bay St. and ties to Montreal Stock Exchange, they started to acquire power and wealth in and around the time of Rizzuto arrests/murders. Lots of show biz type connections in Canada, don’t think they got any over here in Hollywood.

Regardless, the Harold guy is somehow involved with Mossad or that are the suggestions, which gives international reach/credentials. This is more than likely a thread that has been missed by mistake or on purpose in what has/is occurring. That type of backing could persuade people to do things in either direction in business and war.

How do they rest of the known Rizzuto especially in Ontario, relationship with these guys play into this?

The Ertel guy was National President of Satan’s Choice, then became HA President of Ontario. I don’t see how any business gets done without people like that.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/15/19 06:32 PM

Originally Posted by MolochioInduced
Both make great points. Raynald has the fact that he is French, in a part of a country where French people tend to be in positions of power. More than likely some were part of the plot and attack on Rizzuto. Government, Elite Class type, there must of been an attempt in those circles to remove Rizzuto loyalists.

If that’s what really failed, then Desjardins won’t be safe in prison or anywhere else, unless they went back to the people they were paying and taking money from. It could enable lots of people back into Rizzuto good standing, where the Pizzo flows Is where most people are, meaning the pockets of the boss/bosses.

The fella murder in the Muskoka, Kahno, I heard that it was Desjardins that got it done for whoever, the guy was too lose of a end, and tying him off was the first of many agreements that has got Montreal and maybe now Ontario some stability.


If people want to know Raynald's power just look at the Joe Bravo situation, Bravo turned down VITO RIZZUTO 3 freaking times to basically back Raynald. That should tell you all you need to know about Desjardins.

And yes it would NOT surprise me if Mirarchi turns on Raynald. I was just saying that Mirarchi would have to give Ray up or I just couldn't see them working with him. Of course if it's true the paper gave up the surprise and surely Ray knows about this by now so the element of surprise is gone.

And I DO think Ray gets popped within 6 months after his release, IF he lasts that long
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/17/19 07:32 PM

Based on the book with the same name release in February.

Posted By: Bobbybacala

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/18/19 12:34 AM

Lol I like how you guys call him compare Frank
Posted By: LuanKuci

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/18/19 08:53 AM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Based on the book with the same name release in February.



^ thank you Hollander

It’s about time we get a PROPER movie/tv about Montreal/Canadian organized crime. “Bad Blood” with the Sons of Anarchy guy was just awful. The fact that local critics called it “Canada’s The Sopranos” made me feel really sad for the state of the entertainment and creative fields up north...
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/18/19 01:17 PM

The craziest thing I thought about the BadBlood was that they predicted the slaughter of the Calabrese in Hamilton in season 2, then it happened in real life.

I don’t speak French that well is this one about Rizzuto and Desjardins as well?
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/18/19 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by MolochioInduced
The craziest thing I thought about the BadBlood was that they predicted the slaughter of the Calabrese in Hamilton in season 2, then it happened in real life.

I don’t speak French that well is this one about Rizzuto and Desjardins as well?


Yep the leading characters are LOOSELY based on Rizzuto and Desjardins their relation and later fallout is the main story line.
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/19/19 09:41 PM

Cool, sounds interesting.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/22/19 03:35 AM

Back in the day they imported tons of hashish, do they still do that? I can imagine there is still a pretty big market for hash in the US and Canada.
Posted By: Terence

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/22/19 06:39 AM

Originally Posted by LuanKuci
Originally Posted by Hollander
Based on the book with the same name release in February.



^ thank you Hollander

It’s about time we get a PROPER movie/tv about Montreal/Canadian organized crime. “Bad Blood” with the Sons of Anarchy guy was just awful. The fact that local critics called it “Canada’s The Sopranos” made me feel really sad for the state of the entertainment and creative fields up north...


+1,000,000
Bad Blood is terrible. It felt like I was watching a Canadian version of Sons of Anarchy from the very start, and not just because of Kim Coates.

This looks fantastic! The French really know how to put together solid gangster dramas. Trailer kind of has the same feel as Cedric Jimenez', The Connection.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/27/19 06:56 PM

Heads rolled in 2019 within organized crime, whether among bikers, street gangs or the Italian mafia. Nearly 20 murders attributable to criminal groups have been committed in the greater metropolitan area in the past year. Two of the most significant assassinations are undoubtedly those of the Salvatore and Andrew Scoppa brothers, two big names in the Italian mafia in Montreal. The first was the victim of a resounding murder in May during a family celebration in a hotel in Laval. His big brother Andrew, a famous mafia clan leader, also fell under the bullets in late October, in the west of the metropolis.
Posted By: AngieColombo

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/28/19 01:37 AM

Originally Posted by pmac
I don't think rizutto would be playing lots of golf with the sniper who killed his father on the loose. so im thinking the wars over and the sniper is dead. wonder what his standing with the bonanno's today is. I still think nyc played a role in this.

Originally Posted by pmac
I don't think rizutto would be playing lots of golf with the sniper who killed his father on the loose. so im thinking the wars over and the sniper is dead. wonder what his standing with the bonanno's today is. I still think nyc played a role in this.

Originally Posted by pmac
I don't think rizutto would be playing lots of golf with the sniper who killed his father on the loose. so im thinking the wars over and the sniper is dead. wonder what his standing with the bonanno's today is. I still think nyc played a role in this.

Originally Posted by pmac
I don't think rizutto would be playing lots of golf with the sniper who killed his father on the loose. so im thinking the wars over and the sniper is dead. wonder what his standing with the bonanno's today is. I still think nyc played a role in this.
haha haha
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/28/19 01:10 PM

Organized crime: Rizzuto, a name that is gradually disappearing

Ten years after the start of the first frontal attack on the Rizzuto family, it still has its place in the Montreal mafia, but the police and experts believe that its influence will inexorably diminish.

The family name is still important, but it is not as important as it once was. He no longer has the same weight. Why ? Because today in the Mafia, there is more emphasis on what you can bring to the community rather than to a family, "said Nicodemo Milano, ex-commander of the City of Montreal Police Service ( SPVM).


https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...rizzuto-un-nom-qui-sefface-peu-a-peu.php
Posted By: JC

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/29/19 06:07 AM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Heads rolled in 2019 within organized crime, whether among bikers, street gangs or the Italian mafia. Nearly 20 murders attributable to criminal groups have been committed in the greater metropolitan area in the past year. Two of the most significant assassinations are undoubtedly those of the Salvatore and Andrew Scoppa brothers, two big names in the Italian mafia in Montreal. The first was the victim of a resounding murder in May during a family celebration in a hotel in Laval. His big brother Andrew, a famous mafia clan leader, also fell under the bullets in late October, in the west of the metropolis.



Who cares, so many scum bags, so many bullets to go. Vito Rizzuto's wife sucks cock like no other.
Posted By: Jamesbontate33

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/29/19 11:00 AM

I Could careless what your opinion is , but regardless of who ...should never disrespect someone's wife . Grow up
Posted By: JC

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/29/19 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by Jamesbontate33
I Could careless what your opinion is , but regardless of who ...should never disrespect someone's wife . Grow up


Sorry Mrs. Rizzuto lol.
Posted By: Jamesbontate33

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/29/19 06:05 PM

Every post you have has you saying something about cocks lol kinda ironic don't ya think lmao
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/30/19 01:42 PM

Timeline: A decade of deadly Mob instability, Hells arrests, corruption

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...ob-instability-hells-arrests-corruption/
Posted By: Jamesbontate33

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/30/19 08:05 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Timeline: A decade of deadly Mob instability, Hells arrests, corruption

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...ob-instability-hells-arrests-corruption/


God damn what a crazy story this has been and it seems like things are stable now , I really wish they didn't ruin the story with that garbage tv show bad blood. I hope they make this into a movie soon, the story's even better than the godfather.

Edit* my bad just saw the Mafia inc video , hopefully this is worth of the story !*
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/03/20 12:48 AM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Originally Posted by MolochioInduced
Any other way to read this article, hopefully those who turn to burn the cartels will sense the danger approaching, this is already as serious as it can get


The article was put up online just several hours ago on the National Post website and related Postmedia sites. Here's the link:

https://nationalpost.com/news/world...-all-the-way-to-mexican-kingpin-el-chapo



Article has been updated December 27, 2019.

It remains unclear how closely American and Canadian agencies were working, but the DEA had its own El Chapo-focused agents in Canada as it scoured Mexico to find the kingpin through 2013. The Americans constantly monitored encrypted BlackBerrys used by the Sinaloa Cartel, and these intercepts showed El Chapo worked with Iranian-Canadian gangs, the Hells Angels and others groups, according to DEA agent Andrew Hogan’s 2018 book Hunting El Chapo, written with Douglas Century.

Hogan said El Chapo, by 2013, was making more money from cocaine in Canada than the United States. The economics were simple, Hogan said; a kilo of cocaine fetched at least US$10,000 more in Canada than it did in L.A. or Chicago.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/03/20 04:59 AM

Hitman who killed Mafia enforcer Eddie Melo denied a release
Melo’s death was listed along with the 2010 murder of Montreal Mafia leader Nicolo Rizzuto and the disappearance of his son-in-law Paolo Renda, as a series of events believed to be part of the “historical conflict.”

https://montrealgazette.com/news/hitman-who-killed-mafia-enforcer-eddie-melo-denied-a-release
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/07/20 04:21 AM

Montrealer sentenced for failed Mob hit, threats against six, including judge

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...ttempt-to-kill-mob-driver-death-threats/
Posted By: NickleCity

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/08/20 12:24 PM

Mafia, "the Rizzuto clan recovers power in Montreal after six years of instability"

https://www.agrigentooggi.it/mafia-...stabilita/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Excerpt translated from the article:

A group of five recently took over organized crime activities in Montreal after the murder of aspiring leader Andrea Andrew Scoppa in October, ...At the head of the group would be Leonardo Rizzuto and Stefano Sollecito.
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/08/20 02:22 PM

Amazing how fast things can accelerate or decelerate, that’s the same in any business. The West Coast of Sicily is extremely influential, I’m sure Rizzuto coming from there is foundational in this stability.

Also shooters of Sal Scoppa, Zips from the other side?? Word is power play involving Southern Italy Republic within CN, Camorra, Ndragheta, SCU, maybe even Stidda. Now, not only in Canada, rather International.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/08/20 09:01 PM

Originally Posted by NickleCity
Mafia, "the Rizzuto clan recovers power in Montreal after six years of instability"

https://www.agrigentooggi.it/mafia-...stabilita/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Excerpt translated from the article:

A group of five recently took over organized crime activities in Montreal after the murder of aspiring leader Andrea Andrew Scoppa in October, ...At the head of the group would be Leonardo Rizzuto and Stefano Sollecito.



They will probably never be as succesful without a strong leader Rizzuto and Sollecito don't have the charisma and respect Vito had, that's why the Scoppa and others began to rebel.
We have to see where the Mirarchi clan stands.The group would be fairly independent of other mafia clans and bikers, but would have strong support from a mafia family in Ontario and may still enjoy support, including some influential members of the Hells Angels of Trois-Rivières.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/08/20 11:46 PM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Originally Posted by NickleCity
Mafia, "the Rizzuto clan recovers power in Montreal after six years of instability"

https://www.agrigentooggi.it/mafia-...stabilita/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Excerpt translated from the article:

A group of five recently took over organized crime activities in Montreal after the murder of aspiring leader Andrea Andrew Scoppa in October, ...At the head of the group would be Leonardo Rizzuto and Stefano Sollecito.



They will probably never be as succesful without a strong leader Rizzuto and Sollecito don't have the charisma and respect Vito had, that's why the Scoppa and others began to rebel.
We have to see where the Mirarchi clan stands.The group would be fairly independent of other mafia clans and bikers, but would have strong support from a mafia family in Ontario and may still enjoy support, including some influential members of the Hells Angels of Trois-Rivières.


How exactly did the Mirarchi "clan" and the Scoppa "clan" become clans without Vittorio Mirarchi's Calabrian father and Andrew Scoppa's Calabrian father respectively being around?

Do you think Vittorio Mirarchi is going to determine the direction of the Montreal Mafia because he has Calabrian ancestry? The high-ranking Bonanno soldier Moreno Gallo had Calabrian ancestry, and he was the right hand of Jos Di Maulo, who did not have ancestry from Calabria (Maria Mourani's book about his daughter confirms he had ancestry from Montorio dei Frentani in Molise).

Or is Mirarchi going to be killed if he had even the slightest involvement in the high-profile murders of Nick Rizzuto Sr., Paolo Renda, and Agostino Cuntrera? Between Raynald Desjardins and Mirarchi, isn't Desardins really the more powerful of the two? I mean, Desjardins was the leader of le clan calabrais, and Mirarchi was his mentee. If Desjardins and Montagna didn't agree to work with each other, would Montagna have made moves?
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/09/20 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Originally Posted by Hollander
Originally Posted by NickleCity
Mafia, "the Rizzuto clan recovers power in Montreal after six years of instability"

https://www.agrigentooggi.it/mafia-...stabilita/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Excerpt translated from the article:

A group of five recently took over organized crime activities in Montreal after the murder of aspiring leader Andrea Andrew Scoppa in October, ...At the head of the group would be Leonardo Rizzuto and Stefano Sollecito.



They will probably never be as succesful without a strong leader Rizzuto and Sollecito don't have the charisma and respect Vito had, that's why the Scoppa and others began to rebel.
We have to see where the Mirarchi clan stands.The group would be fairly independent of other mafia clans and bikers, but would have strong support from a mafia family in Ontario and may still enjoy support, including some influential members of the Hells Angels of Trois-Rivières.


How exactly did the Mirarchi "clan" and the Scoppa "clan" become clans without Vittorio Mirarchi's Calabrian father and Andrew Scoppa's Calabrian father respectively being around?

Do you think Vittorio Mirarchi is going to determine the direction of the Montreal Mafia because he has Calabrian ancestry? The high-ranking Bonanno soldier Moreno Gallo had Calabrian ancestry, and he was the right hand of Jos Di Maulo, who did not have ancestry from Calabria (Maria Mourani's book about his daughter confirms he had ancestry from Montorio dei Frentani in Molise).

Or is Mirarchi going to be killed if he had even the slightest involvement in the high-profile murders of Nick Rizzuto Sr., Paolo Renda, and Agostino Cuntrera? Between Raynald Desjardins and Mirarchi, isn't Desardins really the more powerful of the two? I mean, Desjardins was the leader of le clan calabrais, and Mirarchi was his mentee. If Desjardins and Montagna didn't agree to work with each other, would Montagna have made moves?


Scoppa had been described in court as the leader of a Calabrian clan operating within the Montreal Mafia. Steve Casale was in charge of loansharking and a sports betting operation for a group an informant referred to as “Mirarchi clan.”
The word clan is often used by montreal police lately, but I would instead use crew/group, because it's not like the clans in Italy. I also believe these groups have people from several backgrounds sicilian, calabrian, puglian etc..often it are just guys who grew up together.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/16/20 11:20 PM

A shot was fired Wednesday night in the window of Montreal restaurant Uncle Pete's in the Little Italy district.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/18/20 12:14 PM

This is what Cosa Nostra commands in Canada The new godfather, Leo Rizzuto from Agrigento
And the new boss of the leaders returned to Cattolica Eraclea last summer for a holiday

https://www.lasicilia.it/news/agrig...-nuovo-padrino.html#.XiLpU3ESa4M.twitter
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/20/20 01:04 AM

New poster to site but have followed/read post for years lots of great info on all subjects glad to join.
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/20/20 01:13 AM

THE RIZZUTO FACTION
(OCT.6,2012-DEC.23,2013)
BOSS
VITO RIZZUTO

Leonardo Rizzuto
Vincenzo Spagnolo

Street Boss
Rocco Sollecito

Sollecito cell
Leader
Stefano Sollecito

Liborio Cuntrera
Nicola Spagnolo
Desiderio Pompa
Giuseppe Focarazzo
Steven Vogl

Vito Salvaggio
Carmelo Cannistraro
Natalino Paccione
Andre Thibodeau
Gianpietro Tiberio
Antonio De Blasio


Callochia cell
Leader
Tonino Callochia

Roger Valiquette
Nicolae Catalin Vinersar
Darrell Van Elk
Bryan Cullen

Marco Pizzi
Erasmo Crivello
Soninder Dhingra
Richard Desormiers

senior members
(inactive)
Domenico Manno
Emanuele Ragusa
Girolamo Sciortino
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/20/20 02:04 AM

Also i would be curious who if anyone Leonardo met with while in Cattolica Eraclea.
I.E. Domenico Terrasi,Giuseppe Mormina...
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/20/20 06:50 PM

Originally Posted by VitoCahill
Also i would be curious who if anyone Leonardo met with while in Cattolica Eraclea.
I.E. Domenico Terrasi,Giuseppe Mormina...


It would be rather stange if they didn't met anyone over there. Cosa Nostra from Agrigento remains strong. It is no longer military, but it has essential characteristics that are still respected. The Dia report on the first half of 2019 showed that the consortium needs a boss and at the same time an already top management is free. Pretty similar to Montreal situation.
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/20/20 07:55 PM

P2
Doves and Snakes 🐍

VENDETTA

Meaning if everything since Rizzuto release and death has been in alignment with the deal struck, regarding Vendetta. Rizzuto himself getting specific names.

I don’t know personally, but a lot of stuff has happened since. If this Vendetta is over, how couldn’t there be new ones now??

The new peace or stability may indicate, yes, if so, it will be whatever Cupola 2.0(whatever it is) I assume it’s the perfect mix, really mafiosi, totally control, but equal table. Similar to how Montreal was with co-operative. Most likely through Southern Italy and it’s networks internationally.

It got me thinking about the cartel thread, that if something like this, could fill the void in Mexico as well?
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/22/20 01:35 AM

Seems french reporters use this term it could be a translation error but the term that should be used for MTL mafia is cells.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/24/20 07:52 PM

Sharon Simon’s house was set on fire.

A suspicious fire has destroyed a luxury home in Kanesatake

https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/a-suspicious-fire-has-destroyed-a-luxury-home-in-kanesatake-1.4781992
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/24/20 08:15 PM

Is she a relative of the woman who is married to HA Martin Robert, world HA from Montreal?
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/24/20 08:21 PM

She is Robert’s mother-in-law.
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/24/20 08:37 PM

Interesting, thanks for the clarification.
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/25/20 03:14 AM

sharon simon was for a time also involved w/ sergio picciralli of the devils ghosts both were arrested at same time 2006.
Project Cleopatra in QC.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/25/20 11:55 PM

Rizzuto family remains in control as the Bloody Montreal Mafia War comes to an end

https://aboutthemafia.com/rizzuto-f...loody-montreal-mafia-war-comes-to-an-end
Posted By: JC

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/26/20 03:10 AM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Rizzuto family remains in control as the Bloody Montreal Mafia War comes to an end

https://aboutthemafia.com/rizzuto-f...loody-montreal-mafia-war-comes-to-an-end



That war has been said to be over more than once, let's see where they stand in a year or two.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/26/20 08:11 AM

Originally Posted by JC
That war has been said to be over more than once, let's see where they stand in a year or two.


But who is left that could actually be a threat? Mirarchi was probably their biggest threat that was on the streets and now he's working with them. Desjardins is dead as soon as he's freed unless he pulls a Tony Magi and drive around with the secret service protecting him. The Scoppa's are dead and 2/3 of the group fighting them on the other side is dead (Montagna and Desjardins with Mirarchi being the only one to live it seems)

There is nobody else in Montreal that could take things over at this point other than the Rizzuto's. I never believed for a minute that the HA's were in control, the Sicilians have the routes locked down in Canada...
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/27/20 06:01 PM

Originally Posted by VitoCahill
Also i would be curious who if anyone Leonardo met with while in Cattolica Eraclea.
I.E. Domenico Terrasi,Giuseppe Mormina...


Domenico Terrasi, 75, the boss of Cattolica Eraclea crime family just died; he was released from prison on February 2018, police headquarters banned public funerals.
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/28/20 01:52 AM

well Leonardo i suppose could have been meeting w/ the new boss on his recent trip to sicily???
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/28/20 02:33 PM

Montrealer charged with Gaspé region murder, body yet to be found
The victim is reported to be the son of a man caught with 1,500 kilos of cocaine on a burning boat near Martinique in 2018.

https://montrealgazette.com/news/qu...gaspe-region-murder-body-yet-to-be-found
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/30/20 10:35 PM

Land in new Grand parc with links to Mafia to remain private — for now

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/land-in-new-grand-parc-with-links-to-mafia-to-remain-private-%E2%80%94-for-now/ar-BBZtEas
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/16/20 08:02 PM

A 40-year-old man was shot dead on Saturday night in the borough of Saint-Laurent, near the intersection of boulevard Décarie and rue MacDonald, a few steps from Côte-Vertu metro station.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/21/20 01:32 AM

‪Mafia montréalaise: un incendiaire du complexe funéraire Loreto condamné

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...u-complexe-funeraire-loreto-condamne.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/21/20 01:39 AM

Tweet from TVA nouvelles @tvanouvelles:

8:30 PM · Feb 20, 2020

«LA PIEUVRE» | Le clan Rizzuto est loin d’être mort. Bien au contraire. Il brasse toujours des dizaines de millions de dollars au Québec. Sous le nez des autorités, il infiltre toujours l’économie légale.

Le reportage de @felixseguin et @JE_enquete est à 21h, à @TVAreseau

https://twitter.com/tvanouvelles/status/1230665944210362368?s=20
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/21/20 04:56 AM

^^^^
The TV broadcast stated that the mafia in Montreal currently consists of 13 “clans.” Leonardo Rizzuto heads a group of 19 people.

An intelligence report from Project Estacade revealed that Rizzuto was the new parrain of the mafia in Montreal. For that particular investigation, the media reported on the first arrests at the beginning of February 2017.

The TV program identified Stefano Sollecito as a street boss.

The 18 other people in Rizzuto’s cell are as follows:

• Stefano Sollecito
• Loris Cavaliere
• Francesco Sollecito
• Mario Sollecito
• Giuseppe Sollecito
• Vincenzo Spagnolo
• Nicola Spagnolo
• Vito Salvaggio
• Marco Pizzi
• Gino Costantini
• Liborio Cuntrera
• David Barberio
• ______ Ragusa (at the moment I can’t make out the first name)
• Carmelo Cannistraro
• Steven Di Paola
• Steve Vogl (the program referred to him as the money man)
• Antonio Cinquino
• Domenico Salerno
_______

Related article:

‪Mafia: l’Italie fait la leçon au Québec:

https://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2020/02/20/mafia-litalie-fait-la-lecon-au-quebec‬
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/21/20 10:18 PM

Strong criticism from Italian authorities Quebec is too soft against the mafia.
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/21/20 10:58 PM

That seems like a thin roster, or is that only made men. Francesco Acardi??
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/21/20 11:37 PM

Originally Posted by MolochioInduced
That seems like a thin roster, or is that only made men. Francesco Acardi??



Yeah, they probably consider the Acardi-Del Balso cell/clan seperate from the Rizzutos. Also four Sollecito brothers?
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/22/20 12:16 AM

yeah,lots to pick apart in that report.
makes sense w/ Leonardo BOSS and Stefano street boss seems to be what most media and law enforcement have been reporting for years.
i have always been confused w/ loris cavaliere in that yes he was THE LINK between mafia,H.A. and street gangs in magot/mastiff bust but he has also acted as a lawyer for a wide range of criminals of all stripes over the years.also he was disbarred after serving sentence and now he is a stone cold G?
the mention of francesco among the other 2 sollecito bros is a new name.giuseppe had been arrested in 2008 as part of a follow up gambling bust linked to project colisee.however i don't think he ever served time paid a fine i think.mario has only been mentioned in passing as a sometimes golf partner of Vito and has been seen at funerals over the past few years.
the vincenzo spagnolo in the list could be nicola's brother as the father was murdered in 2016.a vincenzo spagnolo jr had been seen on the charter of companies in the bar/cafe business,but he doesn't have an arrest record.
nicola spagnolo has long been a leading member of Rizzuto/Sollecito faction as well as vito salvaggio.
marco pizzi along w/ david barberio would be part of a cell in rivieres-des-prairies part of MTL w/ pizzi being the leader.
liborio cuntrera is considered to be a leading loanshark and senior member of faction having survived the decade long war.
carmelo cannistraro is a leader in the sports/illegal gambling in laval had once been under francesco del balso.
steve vogl has past arrests for drug trafficking in early 1990's and 2000's but is now involved in the grande wheel project in MTL trying to run a liquor concession but had been seen meeting w/ Vito before his death.
the blank ragusa could be referring to pat who is the son of emanuele ragusa who died 2018.pats sister eleonora was married to nick jr.
antonio cinquino was arrested for cocaine importation in 1993 i think but could find no further info.
as for gino constantini,steven di paola and domenico salerno i have no clue could find no relevant info anywhere...???
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/22/20 12:38 AM

i also have questions about the french medias use of the term clans.i have a hard time believing that there r 13 mafia groups,clans,cells or crews whatever u want to call them of even 10 members each let alone 19 operating in MTL.i think of it as different factions as i don't yet believe that the mafia is united as one so called family.
so for example the Rizzuto/Sollecito faction could have3- 4 of these clans/cells working for it.
vittorio mirarchi could operate his own cell that is entirely independent of the R/S faction.
its more likely that these clans/cells consist of 3-5 core members w/ associates who come and go or come from different criminal groups for brief periods of time for select jobs/work.
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/22/20 12:55 AM

Right on, the mentioning of Clan, really gives a European/Southern Italian flare/feeling. Out of all the cities in NA, Montreal is one of the most European feeling lol, maybe it’s more of marketing thing, sell papers, also get funding to police.
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/22/20 04:57 AM

i guess,could just be a translation thing.
some names missing as mentioned above francesco arcadi and francesco del balso.
also missing:giuseppe focarazzo,pietro d'adamo,gianpietro tiberio,giuseppe torre,erasmo crivello,nino de bartolomeis???
so from report i would gauge that these men r not part of Rizzuto/Sollecito faction???
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/22/20 05:58 AM

Forazacco and D'adamo are there....
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/22/20 06:00 AM

Focarazzo I meant lol
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/22/20 06:01 AM

They both are listed as running their own cells
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/22/20 06:14 AM

in the original post from 2/20/20 the names don't show up on list that is posted.
Posted By: LuanKuci

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/22/20 09:27 AM

Originally Posted by MolochioInduced
Right on, the mentioning of Clan, really gives a European/Southern Italian flare/feeling. Out of all the cities in NA, Montreal is one of the most European feeling lol, maybe it’s more of marketing thing, sell papers, also get funding to police.


I could be wrong but I’d say that the use of the term “Clan” is more of a French language thing. I’d translate it as a “crew”.
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/22/20 01:16 PM

yes that is what i've always taken it to mean crew or cell.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/22/20 02:27 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment
Originally Posted by Sonny_Black
Originally Posted by Ciment
Originally Posted by Scalish
His bro Andrea must be worried. Did they not try to take out Salvatore a couple of years ago? Was there ever an attempt on his bro?


Yes there was an attempt on Salvatore and was shot in the arm but there was also an attempt on the brother Andrea.


On Andrew, when?


https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...05-crime-organise-tueurs-a-tout-prix.php



Oct.3, 2014

Neither Nicola Valiente nor his wife were injured. During her testimony, the woman did not exclude that the person targeted by the attack could have owned the condo that the couple lived in and that he was preparing to buy: Andrew Scoppa.


Enza Esposito, wife of Nicola Valiente (Valiante?), is one of two women charged and arrested in the US per article to which I’ve linked below.

‪Trafic d’armes: deux Montréalaises arrêtées et accusées aux États-Unis 

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...arretees-et-accusees-aux-etats-unis-.php
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/22/20 10:24 PM

Another great find on this site, would the guilty 3 been considered the WolfPack? Where is this alliance/ organization now? Does it still exist??

I think a restauranter in Woodbridge was killed in retaliation for this murder, named Caputo.

https://aboutthemafia.com/murder-in-little-italy
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/23/20 02:38 AM

well one take away from that article is that it states that friedman(the lawyer)which i think they mean frederic lavoie was a drug importer and was further murdered in 2014.
obviously a typo on the authors part.
am interested as to the connections of the caputo bros. to the MTL mafia.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/23/20 02:48 AM

I think the Caputos are tied to Poncho Cuntrera.
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/23/20 03:56 AM

Seems like the recent murder is being suggested that it’s related to outstanding debts to cartels.

https://www.iheartradio.ca/newstalk...ave-been-killed-over-drug-debt-1.9812346
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/25/20 10:49 PM

Originally Posted by VitoCahill
i guess,could just be a translation thing.
some names missing as mentioned above francesco arcadi and francesco del balso.
also missing:giuseppe focarazzo,pietro d'adamo,gianpietro tiberio,giuseppe torre,erasmo crivello,nino de bartolomeis???
so from report i would gauge that these men r not part of Rizzuto/Sollecito faction???


Perhaps unconfirmed or they may maintain a low profile. Torre said to the parole board that he was leaving the life. Perhaps they give him the benefit of the doubt and leave him out of this (public) chart. The police probably has far more detailed charts than this one.

Arcadi and Del Balso are most likely still allied with the Rizzutos. This may simply be Leonardo and Sollecito's inner core of friends and business associates. Most on that list have crews of their own that are in effect stil part of that group. I don't think these people do the collecting, enforcing and killings themselves.
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/26/20 01:29 AM

so the number of cells working under the leadership of Rizzuto/Sollecito could be anywhere from 4-6 covering the territory of MTL proper,laval,rivieres-des-prairies and the southwest of the island.
Posted By: pmac

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/26/20 01:42 AM

longest thread ever...... its over the end. they all died over revenge and drugs
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/26/20 02:29 AM

fair enough.
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/26/20 02:29 AM

UNCLE.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/26/20 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by Sonny_Black

Arcadi and Del Balso are most likely still allied with the Rizzutos. This may simply be Leonardo and Sollecito's inner core of friends and business associates. Most on that list have crews of their own that are in effect stil part of that group. I don't think these people do the collecting, enforcing and killings themselves.


The Rizzuto cell are also mostly Sicilians except the Sollecitos, while those Acardi-Del Balso guys are mostly Calabrian.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/17/20 12:20 PM

There was an attempted murder Sunday night in Repentigny. It would be linked to organized crime. It happened around 11.57pm in the Valmont sur Parc district. Bruno Marier, of the Repentigny police service, does not want to reveal the exact street so as not to identify the victim.

The man, in his late thirties and known to the police, got out of his vehicle. Another car came up to it and the driver unloaded his gun in his direction.

The victim was superficially affected and has already been discharged from the hospital. The information received from him and from the neighbors made it possible to quickly locate a suspicious vehicle.

A man in his thirties, also known to the police, was arrested. His identity cannot be revealed until he has appeared.

With the murder of Francis Turgeon in 2019 in Repentigny, this makes some events that occur on the territory of the municipality.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/17/20 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by Hollander
There was an attempted murder Sunday night in Repentigny. It would be linked to organized crime. It happened around 11.57pm in the Valmont sur Parc district. Bruno Marier, of the Repentigny police service, does not want to reveal the exact street so as not to identify the victim.

The man, in his late thirties and known to the police, got out of his vehicle. Another car came up to it and the driver unloaded his gun in his direction.

The victim was superficially affected and has already been discharged from the hospital. The information received from him and from the neighbors made it possible to quickly locate a suspicious vehicle.

A man in his thirties, also known to the police, was arrested. His identity cannot be revealed until he has appeared.

With the murder of Francis Turgeon in 2019 in Repentigny, this makes some events that occur on the territory of the municipality.



The person they tried to killed is a member of turkish organized crime.

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-trafiquant-dheroine-vise-par-balles.php
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/17/20 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by Blackmobs
Originally Posted by Hollander
There was an attempted murder Sunday night in Repentigny. It would be linked to organized crime. It happened around 11.57pm in the Valmont sur Parc district. Bruno Marier, of the Repentigny police service, does not want to reveal the exact street so as not to identify the victim.

The man, in his late thirties and known to the police, got out of his vehicle. Another car came up to it and the driver unloaded his gun in his direction.

The victim was superficially affected and has already been discharged from the hospital. The information received from him and from the neighbors made it possible to quickly locate a suspicious vehicle.

A man in his thirties, also known to the police, was arrested. His identity cannot be revealed until he has appeared.

With the murder of Francis Turgeon in 2019 in Repentigny, this makes some events that occur on the territory of the municipality.



The person they tried to killed is a member of turkish organized crime.

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-trafiquant-dheroine-vise-par-balles.php


Interesting, there is unrest in the Turkish underworld lately with links to Canada (BC).
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/28/20 04:14 PM

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gJfakl7s8Uk

A lil documentary on the history of organized crime in montreal.
Italian and jewish mobsters
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/28/20 07:19 PM

That was cool, interesting part is how Controni had a Jewish mentor, similar to Luciano etc., had with Rothstein.
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/03/20 05:59 PM

Rizzuto Widow apparently robbed...

https://www.gangsterismout.com/2020/04/vito-rizzutos-widow-robbed.html?m=1

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/montrea...d2b9cd1-bb0c-43b9-bda1-1830ae76ba31/amp/
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/09/20 03:36 PM

Says this guy killed over 40 ppl...WOW!!

https://aboutthemafia.com/irish-canadian-mob-hit-man-moves-closer-to-freedom
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/10/20 02:20 PM

‪Informant in Mafia murder investigation charged with uttering threats

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...cm/c8ee34ce-4051-4b15-acc2-4a0b2686e891/
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/10/20 02:29 PM

have to wonder who this guy is and who is he threatening.
this would be the first known informant in any current MTL mafia investigation.

any ideas if the remnants of the scoppa bros. faction continue to have any influence on street or best to consider it gone after murders and arrests in past 2 yrs.
nicola valiente and fazio malatesta would be only 2 names that come to mind.
valientes wife was just arrested i think for smuggling guns into QC from the U.S.??
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/15/20 10:34 PM

^^^^
‪Meurtres au sein de la mafia: une taupe qui a aidé la police détenue pour menaces

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-aide-la-police-detenue-pour-menaces.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/24/20 01:28 AM

‪COVID-19: la mafia et les Hells perdent des millions

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2020/04/23/covid-19-la-mafia-et-les-hells-perdent-des-millions
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/24/20 11:04 PM

Trois bars ciblés par des incendiaires en autant de jours à Montréal

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...iaires-en-autant-de-jours-a-montreal.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/24/20 11:41 PM

Projet Préméditer: les accusés cités directement à procès

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...s-accuses-cites-directement-a-proces.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/28/20 04:05 AM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Trois bars ciblés par des incendiaires en autant de jours à Montréal

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...iaires-en-autant-de-jours-a-montreal.php


Flambée d’incendies criminels dans des bars de Montréal

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-criminels-dans-des-bars-de-montreal.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/06/20 12:07 AM

Two of Daniel Renaud's articles -- same topic -- were published online today.

Pluie de constats dans un repaire de la mafia

https://plus.lapresse.ca/screens/2e...gn=internal+share&utm_content=screen


La propriétaire du café Bellerose dit n'avoir «rien à voir» avec la mafia

https://www.lapresse.ca/covid-19/20...dit-navoir-rien-a-voir-avec-la-mafia.php
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/08/20 04:21 AM

Interesting a Joseph Sciascia was in business with the boss Raynald Desjardins. He's probably related to Gerlando Sciascia.

But to whom does the government entrust Quebec seniors, hard hit by the COVID-19 pandemic? In Montreal and Laval, business people with troubled ties participated in the financing of a large network of residences for the elderly, discovered our Office of Inquiry.

Business partners of caïds Raynald Desjardins and Domenico Arcuri; the son of a notorious mobster; a contractor linked to Nick Rizzuto Jr at the Charbonneau commission; the lawyer of relatives of organized crime. All these characters have guaranteed bank loans granted to the residences of the Global Real Estate Group.

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2020/05/02/relations-troubles-derriere-des-residences-pour-aines
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/08/20 04:33 AM

He is the son, should have read the full article first.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/11/20 11:56 PM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Feared Wolf Pack leader Rabih Alkhalil who was accused in 2012 of importing 1,800 kg of cocaine into Quebec is likely to be unscathed by the slowness of the judicial system. Born in British Columbia, Alkhalil reportedly headed a network that sold more than $ 50 million worth of cocaine in Quebec in 2012.

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2019/04/17/la-lenteur-aide-un-caid-et-presume-client-del-chapo


Projet Loquace : supplice de la goutte d’eau pour des trafiquants

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-la-goutte-deau-pour-des-trafiquants.php
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/12/20 07:48 PM

I knew that a Controni was killed by the Rock Machine during that war, didn’t know who the killer was, or that he was so well used.

https://www.gangsterismout.com/2020/05/hitman-gerald-gallant-canadas-most.html?m=1
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/15/20 07:23 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Two of Daniel Renaud's articles -- same topic -- were published online today.

Pluie de constats dans un repaire de la mafia

https://plus.lapresse.ca/screens/2e...gn=internal+share&utm_content=screen


La propriétaire du café Bellerose dit n'avoir «rien à voir» avec la mafia

https://www.lapresse.ca/covid-19/20...dit-navoir-rien-a-voir-avec-la-mafia.php


Laval : le Café Bellerose fermé jusqu’à nouvel ordre

https://www.lapresse.ca/covid-19/20...-bellerose-ferme-jusqua-nouvel-ordre.php
Posted By: MegaMikejr

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/08/20 02:49 PM

https://montrealgazette.com/news/well-known-gangster-gregory-woolley-denied-parole
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/09/20 11:22 PM

This was different, looks like a real celebration 🍾




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XVV-VZ4gdk&list=PL8rgOYdq7Krhv4Xds2PQ4exMmv7XPZ_FB
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/12/20 04:18 AM

Originally Posted by horse_face
Originally Posted by mr_white
Were the Falduto brothers the shooters for the Scoppas in the Sollecito and Giordano hits, then double -crossed and killed themselves by the Scoppas? Seems like they were clearly Scoppa crew members...


no, Scarfo and Massari were on that hit. Falduto bros were eliminated because of their loyalty to the Sicilians and the territory they controlled (part of RDP)


Projet Préméditer: la taupe condamnée pour menaces de mort envers des policiers

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...our-menaces-de-mort-envers-des-policiers
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/12/20 05:42 AM

^^^^
‪Informant in Mafia murder investigation pleads guilty to threatening police

https://montrealgazette.com/news/in...tion-pleads-guilty-to-threatening-police
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/13/20 01:26 AM

Retired Montreal police specialist in Mafia assaulted at his home

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...pecialist-in-mafia-assaulted-at-his-home


Braquage à domicile chez un ex-enquêteur du crime organisé du SPVM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...n-ex-enqueteur-du-crime-organise-du-spvm

Posted By: Giacomo_Vacari

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/13/20 01:51 AM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Retired Montreal police specialist in Mafia assaulted at his home

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...pecialist-in-mafia-assaulted-at-his-home


Braquage à domicile chez un ex-enquêteur du crime organisé du SPVM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...n-ex-enqueteur-du-crime-organise-du-spvm



My thinking is 1) cops hired thugs to do this. 2) street gangs act of revenge when he was on the force. 3) the mafia is last on my list as he is no longer an officer so he would not he an immediate threat to them.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/13/20 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Retired Montreal police specialist in Mafia assaulted at his home

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...pecialist-in-mafia-assaulted-at-his-home


Braquage à domicile chez un ex-enquêteur du crime organisé du SPVM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...n-ex-enqueteur-du-crime-organise-du-spvm



The French-language article has been updated, and Vincent Larouche is now, along with Daniel Renaud, its co-author.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/13/20 07:44 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
^^^^
‪Informant in Mafia murder investigation pleads guilty to threatening police

https://montrealgazette.com/news/in...tion-pleads-guilty-to-threatening-police


Paul Cherry has updated his article, but it seems to be available only on PressReader — try this link:

https://www.pressreader.com/canada/montreal-gazette/20200613/281706911923391
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/14/20 01:20 AM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Originally Posted by antimafia
Retired Montreal police specialist in Mafia assaulted at his home

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...pecialist-in-mafia-assaulted-at-his-home


Braquage à domicile chez un ex-enquêteur du crime organisé du SPVM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...n-ex-enqueteur-du-crime-organise-du-spvm



The French-language article has been updated, and Vincent Larouche is now, along with Daniel Renaud, its co-author.


‪Trois suspects accusés pour l’agression d’un ex-policier et de sa mère

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...agression-d-un-ex-policier-et-de-sa-mere
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/18/20 11:04 PM

Judge tosses out high-profile case against alleged drug trafficker

https://montrealgazette.com/news/ju...cm/ac309b3a-1390-4a51-8c40-2dce073b6140/
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/19/20 10:07 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Originally Posted by antimafia
Originally Posted by antimafia
Retired Montreal police specialist in Mafia assaulted at his home

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...pecialist-in-mafia-assaulted-at-his-home


Braquage à domicile chez un ex-enquêteur du crime organisé du SPVM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...n-ex-enqueteur-du-crime-organise-du-spvm



The French-language article has been updated, and Vincent Larouche is now, along with Daniel Renaud, its co-author.


‪Trois suspects accusés pour l’agression d’un ex-policier et de sa mère

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...agression-d-un-ex-policier-et-de-sa-mere


Getaway driver in assault on retired police Mafia expert did it for drugs, court told
https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...ce-mafia-expert-says-he-did-it-for-drugs

Braquage chez l’ex-enquêteur Poletti: un suspect toujours en fuite
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...eur-poletti-un-suspect-toujours-en-fuite

Ex-enquêteur battu: arrêtés en raison de leurs erreurs
https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2020/06/19/ex-enqueteur-battu-arretes-en-raison-de-leurs-erreurs
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/20/20 01:17 PM

^^^^
Agression contre un ex-enquêteur du SPVM: «Si on avait voulu le tuer, il serait mort»

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...si-on-avait-voulu-le-tuer-il-serait-mort
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/22/20 01:21 PM

Accalmie dans le crime organisé | Le Journal de Montréal

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2020/06/22/accalmie-dans-le-crime-organise
Posted By: mike68

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/23/20 03:52 PM

So is it safe to say that the war is over at this point? What happens with Desjardins?
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/26/20 02:57 PM

Un ancien leader de la mafia refait surface
Le nom de Francesco Del Balso est associé aux paris sportifs

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2020/06/26/un-ancien-leader-de-la-mafia-refait-surface
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/28/20 07:37 PM

Originally Posted by mike68
So is it safe to say that the war is over at this point? What happens with Desjardins?


If they made a pact to work with Mirarchi as has been reported then it means Desjardins dies when he gets out of prison. I just don't see the Sicilians working with Desjardins. If they popped Di Maulo they're definitely popping Desjardins
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/28/20 08:37 PM

Originally Posted by dixiemafia
Originally Posted by mike68
So is it safe to say that the war is over at this point? What happens with Desjardins?


If they made a pact to work with Mirarchi as has been reported then it means Desjardins dies when he gets out of prison. I just don't see the Sicilians working with Desjardins. If they popped Di Maulo they're definitely popping Desjardins


I believe there was already an attempt on Desjardins in 2015ish.
Posted By: JoeTadaro

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/29/20 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by dixiemafia
Originally Posted by mike68
So is it safe to say that the war is over at this point? What happens with Desjardins?


If they made a pact to work with Mirarchi as has been reported then it means Desjardins dies when he gets out of prison. I just don't see the Sicilians working with Desjardins. If they popped Di Maulo they're definitely popping Desjardins


Couldn’t agree more...there’s no way the Sicilians will ever do business with him let alone let him live lol he’s def a dead man walking
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/01/20 04:20 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
^^^^
Agression contre un ex-enquêteur du SPVM: «Si on avait voulu le tuer, il serait mort»

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...si-on-avait-voulu-le-tuer-il-serait-mort


Braquage chez l’ex-policier Poletti: les trois accusés demeurent détenus

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-les-trois-accuses-demeurent-detenus.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/02/20 02:16 AM

^^^^
No bail for men charged with assault on retired Montreal police officer

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...ault-on-retired-montreal-police-officer/
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/03/20 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by MolochioInduced
Originally Posted by dixiemafia
Originally Posted by mike68
So is it safe to say that the war is over at this point? What happens with Desjardins?


If they made a pact to work with Mirarchi as has been reported then it means Desjardins dies when he gets out of prison. I just don't see the Sicilians working with Desjardins. If they popped Di Maulo they're definitely popping Desjardins


I believe there was already an attempt on Desjardins in 2015ish.


Those shots didn't come from the Sicilians though, those came from Montagna. Now he has the Sicilians chasing him.
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/03/20 08:18 PM

Originally Posted by dixiemafia
Originally Posted by MolochioInduced
Originally Posted by dixiemafia
Originally Posted by mike68
So is it safe to say that the war is over at this point? What happens with Desjardins?


If they made a pact to work with Mirarchi as has been reported then it means Desjardins dies when he gets out of prison. I just don't see the Sicilians working with Desjardins. If they popped Di Maulo they're definitely popping Desjardins


I believe there was already an attempt on Desjardins in 2015ish.


Those shots didn't come from the Sicilians though, those came from Montagna. Now he has the Sicilians chasing him.


I didn’t know that Mom Boucher was with the Bonnanos, I thought he was loyal to Rizzuto.

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/montrea...66e59b6-672e-4de4-a228-19eef81f6da8/amp/
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/03/20 10:24 PM

Here’s the video that they used as evidence to convict Boucher on the attempted murder of Desjardins.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=v1HdiQ-G2j8
Posted By: MegaMikejr

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/04/20 09:26 PM

https://bobrtimes.com/lull-in-the-organized-crime/86680/amp/
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/08/20 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Originally Posted by antimafia
Two of Daniel Renaud's articles -- same topic -- were published online today.

Pluie de constats dans un repaire de la mafia

https://plus.lapresse.ca/screens/2e...gn=internal+share&utm_content=screen


La propriétaire du café Bellerose dit n'avoir «rien à voir» avec la mafia

https://www.lapresse.ca/covid-19/20...dit-navoir-rien-a-voir-avec-la-mafia.php


Laval : le Café Bellerose fermé jusqu’à nouvel ordre

https://www.lapresse.ca/covid-19/20...-bellerose-ferme-jusqua-nouvel-ordre.php


Un café fréquenté par des mafieux en pleine pandémie

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...e-par-des-mafieux-en-pleine-pandemie.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/20/20 04:25 PM

Le SPVM cherche des victimes d’un réseau d’extorsion de la mafia

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-d-un-reseau-d-extorsion-de-la-mafia.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/20/20 10:51 PM

^^^^
Montreal police seek victims of alleged loan-sharking ring

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...ek-victims-of-alleged-loan-sharking-ring
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/23/20 10:34 PM

­­­­Un café lavallois fréquenté par la mafia doit fermer pendant 20 jours

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...a-mafia-doit-fermer-pendant-20-jours.php
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/25/20 12:46 PM

so who r these no necks working for??
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/25/20 04:32 PM

There are so many varied splintered independent gangs and ethnicities active up there, that it's nearly impossible to call it "organized" crime lol.

Thats another reason why props should be given to Vito Rizzuto for having had the tenacity and savvy to be able to negotiate with the myriad of gangsters, drug dealers, and far-flung gangs in Canada.

With his demise we see the result. I don't think LE or the general populous realize or give Vito enough credit for his efforts. Because although he may have been what he was, a mafioso to the core. He was also a tactician and very intelligent guy. And a "Politician" albeit a mob politician to have had the ability to "speak" everyones language and "reach" agreeable compromises with all factions.

He pretty much kept violence to a minimum during his tenure.

We now see the true chaos that COULD have been, had a Vito Rizzuto not been at the helm as he was.
Posted By: Jamesbontate33

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/25/20 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by NYMafia
There are so many varied splintered independent gangs and ethnicities active up there, that it's nearly impossible to call it "organized" crime lol.

Thats another reason why props should be given to Vito Rizzuto for having had the tenacity and savvy to be able to negotiate with the myriad of gangsters, drug dealers, and far-flung gangs in Canada.

With his demise we see the result. I don't think LE or the general populous realize or give Vito enough credit for his efforts. Because although he may have been what he was, a mafioso to the core. He was also a tactician and very intelligent guy. And a "Politician" albeit a mob politician to have had the ability to "speak" everyones language and "reach" agreeable compromises with all factions.

He pretty much kept violence to a minimum during his tenure.

We now see the true chaos that COULD have been, had a Vito Rizzuto not been at the helm as he was.



Well put ! Problem is l.e doesn't realize but they are better off having someone like Rizzuto in control instead of all these factions fighting . If I remember he even made a similar comment to police before he was extradited . It's the same as New York , whether the police and politicians like it or not they need the 5 families , without them you'd have complete chaos all over the place .
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/25/20 05:46 PM

I agree with you
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/07/20 12:18 AM

If you don’t understand French, use Twitter’s translation feature to decipher the tweet to which I’ve linked below.

https://twitter.com/felixseguin/status/1291502755744489477?s=21
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/07/20 12:30 AM

https://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2020/08/06/un-proche-du-clan-rizzuto-arrete

Powerful mobster Nic Spagnolo was reportedly arrested Thursday in connection with attempted murder this weekend in Old Montreal
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/07/20 12:30 AM

It was a 911 call at around 2:15 a.m. Sunday morning that brought the police to the intersection of rue Saint-François-Xavier and Notre-Dame-Ouest, in the Ville-Marie borough.
The police discovered the victim, a 27-year-old man, who had been stabbed in the upper body with a stabbing weapon.

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...mme-poignarde-dans-le-vieux-montreal.php
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/07/20 12:31 AM

Wonder if he stab a street gang member, an member of the biker world or an young guy from the mob world
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/07/20 12:44 AM

Originally Posted by Blackmobs
https://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2020/08/06/un-proche-du-clan-rizzuto-arrete

Powerful mobster Nic Spagnolo was reportedly arrested Thursday in connection with attempted murder this weekend in Old Montreal


His father was already shot dead 4 years ago, so powerful is relatively.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/07/20 12:46 AM

^^^^
Police had determined that Nicola had been the intended target, not Vincenzo.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/07/20 01:37 AM

Originally Posted by Blackmobs
https://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2020/08/06/un-proche-du-clan-rizzuto-arrete

Powerful mobster Nic Spagnolo was reportedly arrested Thursday in connection with attempted murder this weekend in Old Montreal


Un mafieux montréalais soupçonné de tentative de meurtre

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...is-soupconne-de-tentative-de-meurtre.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/12/20 03:36 PM

^^^^
Tentative de meurtre: le mafieux Nicola Spagnolo obtient sa liberté provisoire

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...agnolo-obtient-sa-liberte-provisoire.php
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/13/20 12:35 AM

Originally Posted by antimafia
^^^^
Tentative de meurtre: le mafieux Nicola Spagnolo obtient sa liberté provisoire

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...agnolo-obtient-sa-liberte-provisoire.php


Seems like a spur of the moment thing, but if he is hanging around the Hells Angels no suprise.
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/13/20 01:25 PM

The Rizzutos really came under fire in 2016, Giordano, Sollecito and Spagnolo, etc
Is the Spagnolo murder tied to the Scoppas, if not, who is considered responsible, Violi??
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/22/20 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Originally Posted by Hollander
Feared Wolf Pack leader Rabih Alkhalil who was accused in 2012 of importing 1,800 kg of cocaine into Quebec is likely to be unscathed by the slowness of the judicial system. Born in British Columbia, Alkhalil reportedly headed a network that sold more than $ 50 million worth of cocaine in Quebec in 2012.

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2019/04/17/la-lenteur-aide-un-caid-et-presume-client-del-chapo


Projet Loquace : supplice de la goutte d’eau pour des trafiquants

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-la-goutte-deau-pour-des-trafiquants.php


‪Projet Loquace: Alkhalil acquitté de plusieurs chefs, dont celui de gangstérisme

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...urs-chefs-dont-celui-de-gangsterisme.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/26/20 10:15 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
‪Mafia montréalaise: un incendiaire du complexe funéraire Loreto condamné

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...u-complexe-funeraire-loreto-condamne.php


‪Incendie au salon funéraire Loreto: le dernier des accusés plaide coupable

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-dernier-des-accuses-plaide-coupable.php
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/31/20 10:49 PM

Rabih Alkhalil gets 8 years.

https://www.gangsterismout.com/2020/08/rabih-robby-alkhalil-pulls-8-years.html
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/31/20 10:50 PM

^^^^
Please see above and three posts back for context.

Rabih Alkhalil condamné à huit ans de pénitencier

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...l-condamne-a-huit-ans-de-penitencier.php


Major cocaine trafficker sentenced to eight-year prison term

https://montrealgazette.com/news/major-cocaine-trafficker-sentenced-to-eight-year-prison-term
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/29/20 10:25 PM

Montreal underworld leader pleads guilty in Albany

https://www.timesunion.com/news/art...der-pleads-guilty-in-Albany-15605424.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/30/20 06:12 PM

^^^^
Murdered mobster’s brother pleads guilty in U.S.-Canada drug smuggling scheme

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/20...-in-us-canada-drug-smuggling-scheme.html
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/30/20 06:18 PM

It is an amazing thing the level of raw organized crime violence being exhibited across Canada nowadays. To think in the year 2020 such open warfare could exist is almost a singular phenomena.

Even the Colombo civil war of the early 1990s never came close to what goes on in Montreal, Toronto, etc.

It makes for great mob watching thats for shit sure.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/05/20 04:00 AM

Former coach of MMA icon Georges St-Pierre arrested in Argentina
A former coach of mixed martial artist Georges St-Pierre was arrested for suspected involvement in an international money laundering network.
Vargotskii is a former cornerman for retired UFC champion Georges St-Pierre. Vargotskii, whose surname is also spelled Vargotsky, is himself a former kick-boxing champ from Ukraine and an ex-Soviet Union special forces sniper who served in Afghanistan during the 1980s.

Vargotskii was the last of 19 suspects to be arrested as the result of a major RCMP investigation targeting a criminal organization in Montreal and Toronto. The two-year investigation led to the arrest of 17 suspects in February 2019. Another suspect, Francisco Javier Jimenez Guerrero was arrested on Oct. 24, 2019, in Spain.

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...-georges-st-pierre-arrested-in-argentina
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/05/20 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Former coach of MMA icon Georges St-Pierre arrested in Argentina
A former coach of mixed martial artist Georges St-Pierre was arrested for suspected involvement in an international money laundering network.
Vargotskii is a former cornerman for retired UFC champion Georges St-Pierre. Vargotskii, whose surname is also spelled Vargotsky, is himself a former kick-boxing champ from Ukraine and an ex-Soviet Union special forces sniper who served in Afghanistan during the 1980s.

Vargotskii was the last of 19 suspects to be arrested as the result of a major RCMP investigation targeting a criminal organization in Montreal and Toronto. The two-year investigation led to the arrest of 17 suspects in February 2019. Another suspect, Francisco Javier Jimenez Guerrero was arrested on Oct. 24, 2019, in Spain.

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...-georges-st-pierre-arrested-in-argentina


Thanks man! OC is huge in MMA in Canada. specifically the HA, St. Pierre used to be managed by Stephane Patry, whose brother was HA during the Biker War. At that time there was no debate which province had the best MMA/Bikers, it was Quebec.

Unless you were in on St. Pierre it is pretty much a broke mans game, not like boxing in America. There is/was a link involving MMA/Bikers in Hamilton that is now emerging with maybe Cudmore being linked via Street gangs to the Hamilton HA, and the murder of Musitano/Barberi.

"He (Cudmore) was a founding member of a street gang known as the North End Crew (NEC), or at least was an early member. As the NEC grew, it became a training ground for larger enterprises, including the Hamilton chapter of the Hells Angels Motorcycle Club. When the local Hells Angels chapter expanded, several of its new members were recruited from the NEC. The ties between the two groups were so strong that evidence at a 2011 Hamilton licensing hearing for a bar in which cocaine had been sold described the NEC as “an extension of the Hells Angels. Despite the connection, Cudmore never became a Hells Angel; maybe because he had such a hard time staying out of jail."

There was a fight club on Barton and Green (Iron Tiger https://houseofchampionsmma.com/), the head guy in now a cut man in the UFC) in which full patch HA would hang out, in the same plaza where the Monello (Musitano) Social Club is located, also where Giorgio Baressi trained (Iron Tiger), as well as other clubs (Joslins Red Devil/HA Puppet https://joslinsmma.com/) all in Hamilton.

Knowing how to fight and being in a criminal business is a asset and typically valued in those who are looking to recruit talent into their business operation, etc.

The HA in Hamilton are tied into all of the MMA clubs in that City, many cops also train in those places. Now it seems like all the mobsters have been killed in Hamilton or put in prison. There is a brother combo of Cop/Biker from the Parkdale area of Hamilton, Chris Poole (OPP Cop), Vince Poole HA, he was arrested last summer of guns and coke https://www.chch.com/guns-cash-and-1m-worth-of-cocaine-seized-by-hamilton-police/. Seems to be back on the street no problem! lol. This is their family's Motorcycle Shop in the East End of Hamilton https://poolescycle.ca/

I was told that a Super Club that was supposed to be built in the East End of Hamilton in 2014, as part of a pipe line of premium blow from Mexico, as part of Rizzuto making a deal with NY, prior to returning to Canada, to get the details he needed to get Vendetta. The Super Club was a huge failure, but the premium blow connection, became a bit of a sticking force, to the point where it was a major catalyst to the violence in, around, and related to Hamilton, as well as everything else considered business.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/06/20 05:13 PM

True MMA, Kickboxing and don't forget Boxing.

Boxing too "vulnerable" to the influence of the Hells?
The RACJ questions a promoter who had links with bikers

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2020/10/05/la-boxe-trop-vulnerable-a-linfluence-des-hells
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/08/20 10:11 PM

Deux accusés demandent leur libération provisoire

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...demandent-leur-liberation-provisoire.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/21/20 02:56 AM

100 milliards $ blanchis en 2019 par le crime organisé

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2020/10/20/100-milliards-blanchis-en-2019
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/22/20 07:33 PM

Tête dirigeante de la mafia et toujours avocat

https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/1742722/rizzuto-cavaliere-wooley-sollecito-avocat-barreau
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/24/20 03:54 AM

Un trafiquant voulait être libéré malgré des menaces sur sa vie

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...libere-malgre-des-menaces-sur-sa-vie.php
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/24/20 03:14 PM

Is this fella part of the group that surrounded the Consenza looking to kill Arcadi? If so, is that group also part of the confederacy of clans, for lack of a better term in Montreal, currently?

He was also married to HA Martin Robert’s mother-in-law?


https://www.gangsterismout.com/2020/10/sergio-piccirilli-has-balls.html
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/24/20 06:10 PM

La victime est un trafiquant lié à la mafia et aux Hells Angels

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...t-lie-a-la-mafia-et-aux-hells-angels.php
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/27/20 12:05 AM

yes sergio piccirilli was part of the first group to take a run at the rizzuto's along w/ the now defunct d'amico's from granby,qc.
on that note the d'amicos seemed to have vanished from the scene years ago.
i think the father was deported back to italy in 2013?? there still remains 2 bros and a cousin in qc and d.r.
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/27/20 12:11 AM

and concerning the attempt on stephane dupuis he was once aligned w/ francesco del balso or more likely was paying pizzo/street tax to him for the ability to operate as a cocaine trafficker in the MTL area.
all of that was in 2006 so where his alliance falls in 2020 who the heck knows.
the article mentions that he was still connected to both the MAFIA and HA??being a criminal in mtl this is not shocking, as to whom the mafia and ha connections r as usual the author leaves that out of the article.
it is also mentioned that dupuis was seen frequenting a laval cafe where he met with a mafia member who financed cocaine deals and laundered money???
a quick guess would be giuseppe focarazzo but who knows.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/27/20 03:09 AM

Originally Posted by VitoCahill
yes sergio piccirilli was part of the first group to take a run at the rizzuto's along w/ the now defunct d'amico's from granby,qc.
on that note the d'amicos seemed to have vanished from the scene years ago.
i think the father was deported back to italy in 2013?? there still remains 2 bros and a cousin in qc and d.r.


Luigi D'Amico the father is now running restaurants back in Italy.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/28/20 12:37 PM

A mafioso was a source of police
Andrew Scoppa briefing investigators while leading Montreal mafia, new book reveals

Former Montreal Mafia interim godfather Andrew Scoppa was both a police informant and a journalistic source as he tried to take over from the Rizzutos.

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2020/10/28/un-mafieux-etait-source-de-police
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/28/20 03:06 PM

^^^^
Deux journalistes ont réussi à gagner sa confiance

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2020/10/28/deux-journalistes-ont-reussi-a-gagner-sa-confiance
Posted By: mike68

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/28/20 04:35 PM

Hopefully, this book will come out with an English version for the non-Francophones in the crowd:)
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/29/20 12:49 AM

had scoppa not been murdered he could have been the one to finally get to the bottom of a lot of questions in MTL MAFIA.
always did find it odd that even in canada a guy could get arrested w/100+kgs of blow and never face serious jail time.
i would think this book will see an english edition.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/29/20 01:03 AM

Originally Posted by VitoCahill
had scoppa not been murdered he could have been the one to finally get to the bottom of a lot of questions in MTL MAFIA.
always did find it odd that even in canada a guy could get arrested w/100+kgs of blow and never face serious jail time.
i would think this book will see an english edition.


I think many of the murder victims have been working with police, that is still one of the main reasons mafia will use violence what they usually try to avoid.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/29/20 10:18 AM

Scoppa était le plus gros importateur de drogue au pays

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2020/10/29/scoppa-etait-le-plus-gros-importateur-de-drogue-au-pays
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/29/20 06:53 PM

Re: the question, since deleted, about the ancestry of the Scoppa brothers.

The Quebec poster eurodave had written in this thread a number of years ago that the Scoppas were from the Catanzaro area. Andrew Scoppa’s Canadian passport shows that he was born in Badolato, which is a town in the province of Catanzaro. Not sure whether younger brother Salvatore was also born there.

The brothers’ mother, whose maiden name is Scrufari, was likely also born in Badolato. If not, other possibilities are the towns of Reggio di Calabria, Porto Melito di Salvo, Malito, Bagaladi, and others.

Given that the Scoppas’ father deserted the family when his children were young and that his wife and children lived in poverty, I’m not holding my breath that the Scoppas had roots in the ‘ndrangheta — far from it.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/30/20 12:34 AM

Yes Catanzaro I remember, thanks!
Posted By: MegaMikejr

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/01/20 12:25 AM

https://alkhaleejtoday.co/international/5224068/Scoppa-and-me-a-story-worthy-of-a-film.html
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/03/20 03:13 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Originally Posted by horse_face
Originally Posted by mr_white
Were the Falduto brothers the shooters for the Scoppas in the Sollecito and Giordano hits, then double -crossed and killed themselves by the Scoppas? Seems like they were clearly Scoppa crew members...


no, Scarfo and Massari were on that hit. Falduto bros were eliminated because of their loyalty to the Sicilians and the territory they controlled (part of RDP)


Projet Préméditer: la taupe condamnée pour menaces de mort envers des policiers

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...our-menaces-de-mort-envers-des-policiers


Deux accusés obtiennent leur liberté provisoire

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...s-obtiennent-leur-liberte-provisoire.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/06/20 12:04 AM

Originally Posted by antimafia
^^^^
Meurtre au café Hillside: l'accusé Lufiau évite le pire
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...illside-laccuse-lufiau-evite-le-pire.php

Tué par erreur: le deuxième accusé aussi coupable
https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2019/06/11/tue-par-erreur--le-deuxieme-accuse-aussi-coupable


Joubens Jeff Theus was also the actual shooter in the murder of Angelo D’Onofrio, whom Theus mistook for Tony Van(n)elli.


“Man who set Rizzuto-owned funeral home on fire sentenced”

https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/man-who-set-rizzuto-owned-funeral-home-on-fire-sentenced
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/09/20 12:08 PM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...pour-le-chef-de-gang-gregory-woolley.php

High surveillance release for gang leader Gregory Woolley

Wonder what will be is place in the criminal world
Posted By: ralphie_cifaretto

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/09/20 07:17 PM

Is the war in Montreal considered over because the Scoppas are no more or...?
Posted By: mike68

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/10/20 06:15 PM

From the outside, you would have to think that there is only retribution left, mainly Desjardins, but who knows?
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/10/20 10:40 PM

LE are probably worried about the release of Picasso considering his ties to mafia, streetgangs and hells angels.
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/12/20 12:08 AM

the war w/ the scoppas (nov,2015-oct,2019) roughly is over both bros r dead.
any new war should have it's own thread this one on page 105 (good god) has been wild but like others have posted this thread should be put to bed.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/12/20 01:27 AM

10e anniversaire de l'assassinat de Nicolo Rizzuto:

https://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2020/11/10/10e-anniversaire-de-lassassinat-de-nicolo-rizzuto
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/17/20 04:26 AM

Originally Posted by Hollander


Mihale Leventis of Montreal sentenced in U.S. District Court in Albany today to time already served.

“Montreal underworld figure gets time served for U.S. marijuana smuggling”

https://www.timesunion.com/news/article/Montreal-underworld-figure-gets-time-served-for-15731424.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/19/20 04:24 PM

Un membre d’un gang qui exécute des contrats pour la mafia visé

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...cute-des-contrats-pour-la-mafia-vise.php


Criblé de balles en plein jour à Montréal

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2020/11/19/tentative-de-meurtre-dans-villeray
Posted By: mike68

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/19/20 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Un membre d’un gang qui exécute des contrats pour la mafia visé

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...cute-des-contrats-pour-la-mafia-vise.php


Criblé de balles en plein jour à Montréal

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2020/11/19/tentative-de-meurtre-dans-villeray


Just when you thought that the killings might be over...I wonder what this one means, more uprising? Internal housecleaning? A message to or from Barberio? Who's side is Barberio on?
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/19/20 08:03 PM

Barberio was aligned with Giuseppe de Vito up until his 2013 death.
I can't understand the label of street boss Barberio has obtained from media/LE in past few yrs. Street boss of what and for whom,Sollecito?
It sounds like Barberio is allied w/ Rizzuto-sollecito faction but I would think he would rank as a soldier with a small group of associates working for him.

Any info on atna onha???
Looking at the arrested list from July 2020 on loansharking charges there doesn't appear to be anyone of significance in the Mafia.

Davide Barberio (soldier)

Associates
Atna onha
+4 individuals arrested July 2020.
Posted By: ralphie_cifaretto

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/19/20 08:34 PM

Street boss for Sollecito. He deals with all the ground level guys it seems. Yeah he's probably a soldier
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/19/20 10:59 PM

Originally Posted by mike68
Originally Posted by antimafia
Un membre d’un gang qui exécute des contrats pour la mafia visé

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...cute-des-contrats-pour-la-mafia-vise.php


Criblé de balles en plein jour à Montréal

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2020/11/19/tentative-de-meurtre-dans-villeray


Just when you thought that the killings might be over...I wonder what this one means, more uprising? Internal housecleaning? A message to or from Barberio? Who's side is Barberio on?


Daniel Renaud is reporting that the shooting victim has died in hospital. Journalist Maxime Deland has tweeted that police have confirmed the victim’s death.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/21/20 12:05 AM

^^^^

Le présumé chauffeur du tireur arrêté

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...e-presume-chauffeur-du-tireur-arrete.php


Man charged with murder after fatal shooting in Villeray

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...t-a-day-after-fatal-shooting-in-villeray
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/26/20 07:51 AM

Le tapis rouge pour le crime organisé au Casino
https://www.journaldequebec.com/2020/11/26/le-tapis-rouge-pour-le-crime-organise-au-casino

Sollecito appelle pour ses cadeaux
https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2020/11/26/sollecito-appelle-pour-ses-cadeaux

Loto-Québec refuse une entrevue sur le crime organisé https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2020/11/26/loto-quebecrefuse-une-entrevue-sur-lecrime-organise
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/26/20 04:20 PM

^^^^
Mafia VIP au casino: l’opposition réclame une commission d’enquête

https://www.journaldequebec.com/2020/11/26/une-enquete-publique-sur-les-casinos-reclamee-1
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/27/20 04:27 AM

^^^^
Alleged presence of individuals linked to organized crime at casinos - Loto-Québec wishes to elaborate on certain points

https://www.newswire.ca/fr/news-rel...aborate-on-certain-points-831226826.html
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/27/20 01:48 PM

Part of the article to which I’ve linked below is about the mother-in-law of Anthony Di Maulo, who is a nephew of Jos Di Maulo.

Des shylocks tentent de profiter des joueurs

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2020/11/27/des-shylocks-tentent-de-profiter-des-joueurs
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/27/20 06:25 PM

Blog post by Canadian lawyer Christine Duhaime, who is an anti-money-laundering expert.

Well-known leaders of organized crime welcomed at Montréal area casinos

http://www.antimoneylaunderinglaw.c...e-welcomed-at-montreal-area-casinos.html
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/28/20 04:05 PM

Le mafioso qui a joué 8 millions $

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2020/11/28/le-mafioso-qui-a-joue-8millions
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/07/21 04:28 PM

Une résidence visée a été habitée par un homme lié à la mafia

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-habitee-par-un-homme-lie-a-la-mafia.php
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/09/21 04:00 PM

not sure what relation vincenzo crivello shares w/ erasmo there appears to be another branch of the crivello family in mtl.
a passing observer couldn't tell that the entire province of quebec is about to go into a curfewed lockdown.
still arsons,a blues connected gang member was shot the other day and a few current HA connected drug busts for good measure...OC doesn't miss a beat.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/18/21 03:40 AM

Des requins de la finance qui prêtent à 150%... minimum

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2021/01/16/des-requins-de-la-finance-qui-pretent-a-150-minimum
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/24/21 06:44 PM

La veuve d’un prêteur mafieux n’aura que des miettes

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2021/01/24/la-veuve-dun-preteur-mafieux-naura-que-des-miettes
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/12/21 02:01 PM

Une résidence ayant été habitée par un proche de la mafia est rasée par les flammes

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...he-de-la-mafia-est-rasee-par-les-flammes
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/16/21 09:40 PM

Tentative d’incendie criminel dans un café

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...ive-d-incendie-criminel-dans-un-cafe.php
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/29/21 09:48 PM

Last week The Sûreté du Québec and several American police forces struck a criminal network directed from Montreal which would have controlled a roving troop of fraudsters in the United States.

The investigation on the Quebec side is being carried out by the National Organized Crime Repression Squad (ENRCO), which seems to indicate that the suspects are linked to a structured criminal organization. The Press noted that the investigators had notably searched the residence of Francesco Sollecito, brother of Stefano Sollecito. The latter was still recently considered by several police sources as the leader of the Sicilian clan of the Montreal mafia.

Francesco Sollecito and his brother are the sons of Rocco Sollecito, one of the former mafia leaders, assassinated in 2016. When Francesco got married, the witnesses to his wedding were Paolo Renda, the consigliere of the Sicilian clan, and his wife.
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/29/21 11:35 PM

would be the first intell that francesco sollecito is involved criminally in anything.
2 of the arrested in the u.s. appear to have been arrested previous.
darlens renard of florida was picked up on I 95 on may 16 2020 w/ $155 000 in sumter cty s. carolina.
from article he had no way of explaining the large amount of cash inside a fire safe in car.

jasaun pope was arrested mar 25 2019 for crimes related to the exact same type of scam.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/01/21 11:14 AM

The police fear the return of the kingpin Raynald Desjardins

The imminent release of boss Raynald Desjardins, heralded as the event of the year in organized crime, could reignite a bloody war with his rivals in the Montreal mafia.

This will be the most important event in organized crime since the return to the country of the late godfather Vito Rizzuto in 2012 after being imprisoned in the United States for his participation in murders, ”commented a police source, recalling that Desjardins is at loggerheads with the Rizzuto clan, of which he was once a close collaborator.
Fight to finish
Several police forces are preparing for a war to be ended between the veteran Desjardins, who is associated with the Calabrian wing of the mafia, and the new generation of the Rizzuto clan led by the son of the late godfather, Leonardo Rizzuto, and Stefano Sollecito, son of ex-interim chief Rocco Sollecito.
According to our sources, it would be "very unlikely" that the Sicilian clan and that of Desjardins, both decimated by dozens of murders since 2004, come to cohabit peacefully.
Rather, the authorities predict that the two enemy groups will come to confront each other to "make a master" once and for all, using firearms.
In the police community, it is reported that the animosity of the Rizzuto-Sollecito clan is still alive in the place of Desjardins, which an informer in Italy has already identified as the one who "led the war" against the Rizzutos.

In addition, police do not believe that Desjardins will quietly retire from the underworld upon his return, when he still has scores to settle.
Since his incarceration in December 2011, at least a dozen people associated with him have been murdered, including his brother-in-law and ex-mafia number 2, Joe Di Maulo in 2012, his friend and business partner, Gaétan Gosselin. in 2013, and his older brother, Jacques Desjardins in 2017.

In addition, Raynald Desjardins himself was the target of a plot to kill him in a penitentiary in 2015.
It is none other than the former head of the Hells Angels, Maurice "Mom" Boucher, who admitted his guilt in this case in which the gang leader Gregory Woolley, closely linked to the sons Rizzuto and Sollecito, was also indicted. then released.
New soldiers
The police also believe that Desjardins, who still has considerable financial means, has already surrounded himself with new "soldiers" to protect him and help him get revenge.
The boss would have taken advantage of the time he was incarcerated in a maximum security penitentiary in the Maritimes to ally with the Spryfield MOB, a violent gang from Nova Scotia which has been raining and shining in this province for two decades (see other text below).
The presence in the Montreal area of ​​certain individuals linked to this gang is arousing police interest and apprehension within the Mafia, according to our sources.

Our Investigation Office had access to the interrogation that the investigator Steeve Girard, of the Sûreté du Québec, conducted with the gangster Gregory Woolley, the day the latter was accused of conspiring to murder Raynald Desjardins, the November 19, 2015. The following quotes are all from the police officer as Woolley, against whom the charge was dropped in 2018, has remained silent. The leaders of the Rizzuto clan, Stefano Sollecito and Leonardo Rizzuto, have never been charged with this plot.

Desjardins] possibly thinks it comes from [Stefano] Sollecito, for a lot of reasons. Sollecito may be the first person to whom Raynald Desjardins' doubts have gone. "
“Desjardins waged war on Vito [Rizzuto], we all know that. Sollecito [...] is on Rizzuto's side. His son, Me Leonardo Rizzuto, is with you in the alliance you have made. "
“It was easy to see that for about a month, Sollecito had feared greatly for his life. [...] It does not take the head with Papineau to know that Desjardins, it will take revenge. "

HANDS OF THE MARITIMES

Raynald Desjardins recruited his new henchmen from a penal colony in the Maritimes where he had been transferred after his head was put on a price by his rivals in Quebec in the fall of 2015.
The unlikely alliance between the mob boss and Spryfield M.O.B. is believed to have originated at the Atlantic Prison, a maximum security penitentiary located in Renous, New Brunswick.
According to sources from our Bureau of Investigation, Desjardins met another prisoner there, Brian James Marriott - alias "BJ" or Brian James Brumner, his mother's last name - who was incarcerated for manslaughter. and drug trafficking.
Marriott is one of the chief executives of the Spryfield M.O.B. Coming from a suburb of Halifax, this independent gang of criminals has been embroiled in a multitude of murders, bloody internal strife and other acts of violence in that province for two decades.
Armed and dangerous
“Marriott was the boss of his wing [detention wing] in Renous. When Desjardins got to his wing, he told her he had a contract on his mind. They made a deal and Marriott took care of protecting him. He is a very dangerous person, "according to one of our sources, who demanded that his identity be withheld for fear of reprisal.
When Marriott left the penitentiary, he moved to Montreal, in the borough of Saint-Laurent, two years ago. Other members of his clan followed him.
In addition to being suspected of being involved in interprovincial drug trafficking, some are said to be busy accumulating handguns and high-caliber assault weapons, according to our reports.
In July 2019, Marriott and four of his Nova Scotian comrades were arrested following a violent brawl at a Griffintown bar where seven other people, including a police officer, were injured.
The 38-year-old gangster, who is charged with inflicting aggravated assault on three alleged victims, has yet to be tried in Montreal.
These charges, however, resulted in him being returned to detention in his home province for violating release conditions decided by a judge.
Marriott, who learned French during a stay at Donnacona Penitentiary, near Quebec, must stand trial for the murder of a fellow inmate at Dartmouth prison, committed in December 2019 along with 14 other defendants.
The current detention of Marriott does not, however, prevent his cronies from preparing for the return of Desjardins, according to our sources.

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2021/04/01/la-police-redoute-le-retour-du-caid-raynald-desjardins
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/01/21 11:26 AM

Look like Brian James Marriott, Head of Spryfield M.O.B. and associate of Reynald Desjadrins is not only the leader of a street gang, but also the son of the leader of an Halifax crime family. There an article about the father of Brian james Marriot and his family.

https://www.capebretonpost.com/news...ifax-crime-family-dies-at-age-70-410916/

Terry Marriott Sr., patriarch of Halifax crime family, dies at age 70

The patriarch of a well-known Halifax crime family has passed away.

Terry Marriott Sr., 70, died “unexpectedly” Tuesday at his home in Spryfield, according to his obituary.

Marriott was in and out of prison for most of his life, lawyer Wayne Bacchus said at his last sentencing in August 2015, after he pleaded guilty to possession of cocaine for the purpose of trafficking.

That charge was laid after police raided Marriott’s apartment on Herring Cove Road on July 31, 2015, and seized 95 grams of cocaine, scales, packaging, cash and 250 grams of marijuana.

A Halifax provincial court judge accepted a joint recommendation from the Crown and the defence for a four-year prison sentence, less 42 days of credit for Marriott’s time on remand.


The defence lawyer told the court Marriott had endured a great deal of tragedy in his life and had serious medical issues, including problems with his heart, liver and lungs, and arthritis.

Marriott had more than 30 convictions on his criminal record going back to the 1960s, including at least 14 for drug-related offences.

In January 2012, Marriott was sentenced to two years in prison for possession of cocaine for the purpose of trafficking, after police searched his house on Woodcrest Avenue in Spryfield in April 2009.

The defence lawyer at that sentencing, Chris Manning, now a provincial court judge, admitted Marriott’s record was “unenviable” but stressed that his client’s most previous drug offence had been in 1999.

Manning said Marriott only got back into drug-dealing to try to get information about the February 2009 killing of his son.

Death of Marriott's son
Terry Marriott Jr., 34, was shot to death while taking a nap at a friend's house in Harrietsfield.

“Mr. Marriott was very, very distraught and upset,” Manning told the court. “He expected that because of the name and the family, there would be less effort expended by the police (to find the killer).


“He decided … that if he was active on the street, so to speak, he might find tidbits of information that would lead to the discovery of his son’s killers. He decided the best way to do that was to become involved in the drug business, where information is readily transferred and given for drugs.”

Jimmy Melvin Jr., a member of a rival crime family, was arrested in 2015 and charged with first-degree murder in the killing of Terry Marriott Jr. but was found not guilty in May 2017 after a jury trial in Nova Scotia Supreme Court.

Five months later, in October 2017, a different jury found Melvin guilty on charges of attempted murder and conspiracy to commit murder, from a thwarted plot to kill Terry Marriott Jr. in December 2008.

Melvin, 37, is still awaiting sentencing on those charges. The Crown wants him declared a dangerous offender and locked up indefinitely.

One of Terry Marriott Sr.’s other children, Brian James (B.J.) Marriott, 37, is among 15 men facing charges, including attempted murder and conspiracy to commit murder, from an assault on an inmate at the Dartmouth jail two months ago.

In November 1998, Terry Marriott Sr.’s brother, Ricky Marriott, 32, was shot to death. Ricky, who used a wheelchair, was facing three drug charges. His girlfriend, Gail Stone, was also injured in the Nov. 20 shooting and died in hospital four days later.

In August 2000, another brother, Billy Marriott, 38, hanged himself in jail as he awaited trial for first-degree murder in the killing of former Hells Angels associate William St. Clair Wendelborg.

Terry Marriott Sr.’s obituary says he will be remembered for how much he loved his family and friends and for his sense of humour.

He is survived by his wife Darlene, whom he married last July, four children, 10 grandchildren and six great-grandchildren.

A celebration of Marriott's life will be held Friday afternoon at J. Albert Walker Funeral Home in Spryfield, with a reception to follow at a house in Williamswood.
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/01/21 11:30 AM

The Marriott's have long been active on East coast but Brian BJ Marriot is currently facing numerous charges for crimes committed in jail.
Don't know how his power and influence inside Halifax prison will translate to the violent streets of Montreal.
Do we know when Desjardins release date is?
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/01/21 11:57 AM

Desjardins is supposed to get out on April 19.

Coming from Montreal, I disnt know about the Marriott’s family and the Spryfield MOB.

Look like Desjardins found himself some muscle.

The montreal mob scene could become hot again.
Desjardins and his crew, maybe some old time friends and the guys from Halifax.
Against The Rizzuto’s (Rizzuto, Sollecito and Woolley).

Desjardins could made an alliance with the factions of the bloods (B.M /Monpoint) who are fighting against the alliance of Wooley and were allied with Scoppa.

The ennemies of youre ennemies are youre firends ....
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/01/21 12:17 PM

The Inside Story of How the Deadly Melvin vs. Marriott Feud Began

Halifax, Nova Scotia's most notorious criminal, Jimmy Melvin Jr., stepped into the courtroom Monday, facing murder charges for allegedly killing his long-time nemesis, Terry Marriott Jr. The Melvin and Marriott families are practically household names in Nova Scotia, infamous for a long and violent feud in a rough-ish suburb of Halifax called Spryfield, which I previously wrote 4,000 words about here.

Melvin Jr., 35, made national news numerous times during his decades of crime, but perhaps nothing is more memorable than the website, Real Live Street Shit (the url is now dead), which he launched four months after the February 2009 murder of Marriott Jr.

The short-lived website featured videos of him wearing only his underwear, proudly showing off his bullet wounds and colostomy bag while waving around multi-colored Canadian bills. It also featured local TV news clips about his various criminal activities set to hip-hop beats.

Although the website was quickly removed, highlights from the various videos can be seen in this old CBC News clip, including him shouting his most famous quote, "There is no rats in the Melvin family!" after an attempt on his father's life.

After the Marriott Jr. murder, Melvin Jr. appeared to feel invincible; nearly all his enemies were dead or imprisoned after a years-long feud. He felt so confident that in one video he referred to himself as "the cock of the walk, king of the talk."

The Melvins and the Marriotts have become synonymous with crime in Nova Scotia, and the root cause of the violence has long been a source of speculation for many in the eastern Canadian province. The media has often portrayed it as a battle for drug territory, however, inside information tells a different story—a tale of reputation and revenge

A source close to both families has spoken with me for many hours under the condition of anonymity. The source is a childhood friend of Jimmy Melvin Jr., his brother Cory Melvin, Terry Marriott Jr., BJ Bremner (Terry's half brother, son of Terry Marriott Sr.), and their cousin Wayne "Chop" Marriott and has been been publicly implicated in criminal activities with various members of both families.

The following is his explanation of the cause of Nova Scotia's most infamous feud, backed up by newspaper articles and court proceedings of various incidents.

Terry Marriott Jr. was murdered in February 2009, but during the late 90s he'd established himself as a crime figure in Spryfield involved in small time drug dealing. Marriott Jr. was several years older than the younger generation and eight years older than Jimmy Melvin Jr.

The younger generation consisted of a group of Spryfield residents who were childhood best friends: Jimmy Melvin Jr., BJ Marriott, Derek MacPhee (the Crown's key witness in the ongoing murder trial), as well as several others. They were followed by a second group a few years younger led by Wayne "Chop" Marriott, Cory Melvin, and Jeremy Leblanc.

"We always looked up to Terry, he was older, right," said the source. "He had everything."

As teenagers, the source claimed the younger group would often hang out at Terry Jr.'s residence, where drugs and women were plentiful, as they began committing crimes themselves. But Jimmy Jr. always used to get on Terry Jr.'s nerves.

"He used to always pick on Jimmy, like slap him, try to bitch him out in front of people," said the source. "He never used to slap anyone else, it was always Jimmy man."

But although they didn't get along, Jimmy Melvin Jr. and Terry Marriott Jr. had something in common—both their fathers and namesakes were in jail, Jimmy Melvin Sr. and Terry Marriott Sr.

Jimmy Melvin Sr. was sentenced to eight years in prison in 1994, along with nine others, for his role in the importation of a reported 3.5 tons of Middle East hashish to Nova Scotia three years prior.

His sentence was extended until the mid 2000s when he was also implicated in the attempted importation of $20 million of cocaine in 1992. Unfortunately for Melvin Sr., after a high-seas pursuit by the US Coast Guard the drug-filled ship sank and he and an associate reportedly spent two days hunting for the vessel and its shipment, unaware it was underwater.

Terry Marriott Sr. had been in and out of jail for a variety of offenses since the mid-1960s. During the 90s he was incarcerated while his brothers, Billy and Ricky, continued criminal activities on the outside. Billy specifically was said to have a close relationship with the Hells Angels after a previous stint in the shoe—a Nova Scotia slang word for prison.

After Marriott Sr. became a free man in the mid 90s, Terry Jr. was already a well-known Spryfield drug dealer in his own right. But little did they know, their lives would change as Marriott Sr.'s two brothers, Billy and Ricky, would both soon be dead.

It's unclear exactly what relationship Billy had with the Hells Angels, however, he was charged for carrying out a Hells Angels hit in 1998 on another Nova Scotia criminal named William St. Clair Wendelborg (this is explained in more depth in my previous Melvins and Marriotts article).

Weeks after Wendelborg's decomposed body was found, Billy Marriott claimed to have discovered his own brother Ricky, and Ricky's wife, Gail Stone, murdered in their home. Due to the positioning of their bodies police suspected that they were murdered by someone they trusted. Shortly after, police arrested and charged Billy for the Wendelborg hit, but before his 2000 court date, Billy hanged himself in his cell.

If yall want to read the rest of the article

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.vic...the-deadly-melvin-vs-marriott-feud-began
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/01/21 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by Blackmobs
Desjardins is supposed to get out on April 19.

Coming from Montreal, I disnt know about the Marriott’s family and the Spryfield MOB.

Look like Desjardins found himself some muscle.

The montreal mob scene could become hot again.
Desjardins and his crew, maybe some old time friends and the guys from Halifax.
Against The Rizzuto’s (Rizzuto, Sollecito and Woolley).

Desjardins could made an alliance with the factions of the bloods (B.M /Monpoint) who are fighting against the alliance of Wooley and were allied with Scoppa.

The ennemies of youre ennemies are youre firends ....


Is Montreal real a city you can just bring people in like that? Reason being, they must have permission from the Hells, especially if they are number one?

So the Hells would value Desjardins over Rizzuto? Also, wouldn’t the revenge of Sal Montagna also have to be considered by Desjardin, a lot has change specifically with Italian OC, since he went away, (Ie. GTA, Hamilton, Montreal, Buffalo/NYC).
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/01/21 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by MolochioInduced
Originally Posted by Blackmobs
Desjardins is supposed to get out on April 19.

Coming from Montreal, I disnt know about the Marriott’s family and the Spryfield MOB.

Look like Desjardins found himself some muscle.

The montreal mob scene could become hot again.
Desjardins and his crew, maybe some old time friends and the guys from Halifax.
Against The Rizzuto’s (Rizzuto, Sollecito and Woolley).

Desjardins could made an alliance with the factions of the bloods (B.M /Monpoint) who are fighting against the alliance of Wooley and were allied with Scoppa.

The ennemies of youre ennemies are youre firends ....


Is Montreal real a city you can just bring people in like that? Reason being, they must have permission from the Hells, especially if they are number one?

So the Hells would value Desjardins over Rizzuto? Also, wouldn’t the revenge of Sal Montagna also have to be considered by Desjardin, a lot has change specifically with Italian OC, since he went away, (Ie. GTA, Hamilton, Montreal, Buffalo/NYC).


Well I think every big city. To get involved you most allign yourself with people from the city.
And if Desjardins could bring people from the Eastern province of Canada, that only means that Desjardins still got people in Montreal.

Every cities in Canada have gangsters from other cities in there city.
Montreal gang members are known to be in Toronto downtown, calgary, vancouver, winniped and edmonton doing drug trafficking, prostitution and fraud.
But to do that, you most be align with an organization from the city.

Also, the Hells are big in Quebec,and are probably at the top of the food chain. But dont let the articles of the news fools you.
Other organizations are strong and are not scared of the hells angels. Sure they are less strong than the hells, but they will go to war against the hells if they need to.
And its probably like that in every canadian cities
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/01/21 03:37 PM

I think the Sal Montagna thing is over. I think nobody from Canada will go to war because of Montagna.
To get revenge, it would probably come from people from the states, but I doubt it
Posted By: TheKillingJoke

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/01/21 07:53 PM

Bikers and street gangs usually value one thing and that's with who they're going to make the most money. I can imagine the same goes for the Lebanese and whatever's left of the Irish in Montreal.
Hells Angels aren't going to go to war Desjardins just because he's French Canadian like most of them. They're not that clannish; at least not in the way the Sicilians or Calabrians are.

If the Sicilians decide to whack Desjardins, I doubt anyone will avenge him. It's all about the green.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/01/21 08:04 PM

Originally Posted by TheKillingJoke
Bikers and street gangs usually value one thing and that's with who they're going to make the most money. I can imagine the same goes for the Lebanese and whatever's left of the Irish in Montreal.
Hells Angels aren't going to go to war Desjardins just because he's French Canadian like most of them. They're not that clannish; at least not in the way the Sicilians or Calabrians are.

If the Sicilians decide to whack Desjardins, I doubt anyone will avenge him. It's all about the green.


We don't know which (calabrian) groups were behind the purge against the Rizzuto. 'Ndrangheta, Violis?? Desjardins and Montagna (before their fall out ) had some serious backing IMO.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/01/21 08:14 PM

Also New York City families probably.
Posted By: TheKillingJoke

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/01/21 08:26 PM

I was under the impression that whatever NYC backing there was, was due to Montagna. Not sure how much they'd care about Desjardins.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/01/21 08:31 PM

Originally Posted by TheKillingJoke
I was under the impression that whatever NYC backing there was, was due to Montagna. Not sure how much they'd care about Desjardins.


Ray def was respected by them way back in 1973, he accompanied Di Maulo and Paolo Violi to New York for the election of Philip Rastelli as the acting boss of the Bonanno family.
Posted By: TheKillingJoke

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/01/21 08:43 PM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Originally Posted by TheKillingJoke
I was under the impression that whatever NYC backing there was, was due to Montagna. Not sure how much they'd care about Desjardins.


Ray def was respected by them way back in 1973, he accompanied Di Maulo and Paolo Violi to New York for the election of Philip Rastelli as the acting boss of the Bonanno family.


1973 is a long long time ago haha
If there's any environment where minds and hearts can change in the blink of an eye, it's the criminal environment
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/01/21 09:12 PM

The boss Raynald Desjardins obtains his release

King Raynald Desjardins, an organized crime heavyweight convicted of his participation in the conspiracy to murder an aspiring mafia godfather in 2011, has just been granted statutory release after two-thirds of his sentence. His return to society is closely watched in criminal and police circles.

Before the parole board, Raynald Desjardins said he considered himself "semi-retired". Several sources told La Presse that both criminals and police are monitoring the situation closely to see what the attitude of the 67-year-old career criminal will be.
Raynald Desjardins had been convicted of the conspiracy to murder aspiring mafia godfather Salvatore Montagna, which arose in the context of a war for power among organized crime in Montreal.
“You explained that because of the fact that you were respected in the field and even if you had retired, you were consulted by former compatriots in the context of the war between different parties which were evolving in the middle of the mafia, ”reads the parole board's decision.
The commissioners imposed a series of severe conditions on Mr. Desjardins: he will not be able to associate with criminals, will not be able to come into contact with the Montagna family, will not be able to frequent bars and cafes associated with organized crime and will have to provide the call register. from his phone to the authorities, as well as information about his finances.


https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...ald-desjardins-obtient-sa-liberation.php
Posted By: CalabrianWatcher

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/01/21 10:20 PM

And Felix Seguin for the JDM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2021/04/01/la-police-redoute-le-retour-du-caid-raynald-desjardins
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/01/21 10:46 PM

Major Montreal organized crime figure Raynald Desjardins to be released soon

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...e-raynald-desjardins-to-be-released-soon
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/01/21 11:16 PM

Originally Posted by TheKillingJoke
Originally Posted by Hollander
Originally Posted by TheKillingJoke
I was under the impression that whatever NYC backing there was, was due to Montagna. Not sure how much they'd care about Desjardins.


Ray def was respected by them way back in 1973, he accompanied Di Maulo and Paolo Violi to New York for the election of Philip Rastelli as the acting boss of the Bonanno family.


1973 is a long long time ago haha
If there's any environment where minds and hearts can change in the blink of an eye, it's the criminal environment


Ofcourse Desjardins was first close to Paolo Violi, later became VERY close to Vito Rizzuto and then became the architect of the rebellious faction that challenged the leadership.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/02/21 02:46 AM

Raynald Desjardins obtient sa libération conditionnelle

https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvell...onditionnelle-meurtre-salvatore-montagna
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/02/21 04:02 PM

Un promoteur immobilier obligé de retirer des terres contaminées à Rivière-des-Prairies

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...s-contaminees-a-riviere-des-prairies.php
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/08/21 06:25 AM

Things will get interesting soon
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/10/21 12:11 PM

L’argent circulait bien dans le clan Desjardins

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2021/04/10/largent-circulait-bien-dans-le-clan-desjardins
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/10/21 08:06 PM

Thanks, like I said the Desjardins clan is still pretty influential and wealthy.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/12/21 11:11 AM

Projet de casino lié aux Hells et à la mafia

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2021/04/12/projet-de-casino-lie-aux-hells-et-a-la-mafia
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/16/21 04:18 PM

Raynald Desjardins libéré 24 heures plus tôt que prévu

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-libere-24-heures-plus-tot-que-prevu.php
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/16/21 07:44 PM

The gang leader Arsène Mompoint back in the street

Immediately after pleading guilty to counts of conspiracy and drug trafficking, gang leader Arsène Mompoint was sentenced to one day in prison and will be released on Friday.

Mompoint had nothing to do with the network, prosecutor Me Mathieu Longpré told Judge Salvatore Mascia of the Court of Quebec on Friday, but thanks to listening and monitoring, investigators were able to prove that the gang leader was involved in a transaction for tens of thousands of MDA pills, and he kept 100,000 pills as collateral.
In effect, the judge sentenced Mompoint to 29 months and five days, but this equates to the time spent in preventive detention, which is calculated in time and a half, due to the conditions of detention.
The gang leader is however subject to a two-year probation during which he will have to respect conditions: he is forbidden to communicate with his co-accused of Project Asterios, to communicate with anyone with a criminal history, to possess a weapon. and using drugs, except marijuana, on a medical prescription.
Mompoint is on a lifelong gun possession order and will be required to provide a DNA sample. He will have to collect his passport from Passport Canada, he who was about to leave the country and was arrested at Trudeau Airport on the morning of the search.

A contractual

During his release investigation, a DCO investigator testified that Mompoint and his group were "contractors" for organized crime.

Just before the summer of 2019, source information wanted Mr. Mompoint to be active in murder contracts, so find people to execute the contracts or do them himself. It comes up regularly with his name, in the middle, "said investigator Francis Derome.
Arsène Mompoint had also testified and recounted having spent more than two months in Haiti, at the beginning of 2019, to erect fences around the land of his parents.
He introduced himself as an assistant construction project manager and said he worked for a company that has a $ 30 million condo tower site in Terrebonne.
Arsène Mompoint has a heavy judicial past, especially in the theft and possession of weapons.

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...rsene-mompoint-de-retour-dans-la-rue.php
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/16/21 07:45 PM

Mompoint is an enemy of Wooley. And he was working with Scoppa.

Guess an alliance with Desjardins could be probable, yall think ?
Posted By: TheKillingJoke

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/16/21 08:13 PM

'He introduced himself as an assistant construction project manager and said he worked for a company that has a $ 30 million condo tower site in Terrebonne."

Seems like this guy definitely had/has $$$$$$$
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/21/21 10:52 PM

May or may not be related to tensions.

Different articles, different newspapers, same headlines. smile

Coups de feu dans la Petite Italie, un homme de 47 ans arrêté

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...ite-italie-un-homme-de-47-ans-arrete.php


Coups de feu dans la Petite-Italie: un homme de 47 ans arrêté

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...-petite-italie-un-homme-de-47-ans-arrete




Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/29/21 11:31 AM

A loan shark considered by police and criminal sources to be close to individuals linked to Montreal organized crime, Louis Brissette, has died in a road collision in the Cancun area, Mexico few weeks ago.

Louis Brissette, nicknamed Gros Louis, who had just turned 42, had been in Mexico for some time now.

The police observed him in the company of a clan leader of the Montreal mafia, other important individuals of organized crime and a businessman, before the sacked establishments were closed due to the COVID-19 pandemic a year ago.

During the Magot-Mastiff investigation, by which the Sûreté du Québec beheaded a motorcycle-mafia-gang alliance that led Montreal organized crime in November 2015, the police observed Louis Brissette seated at a table with individuals linked to the Hells Angels, including the gang leader Gregory Woolley.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/01/21 01:14 AM

Parole board modifies Mob figure's release conditions so he can see his son.

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...release-conditions-so-he-can-see-his-son
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/03/21 02:07 PM

Mr. Sidewalk is dead.

Le témoin Nicolo Milioto est mort

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...au/le-temoin-nicolo-milioto-est-mort.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/03/21 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Mr. Sidewalk is dead.

Le témoin Nicolo Milioto est mort

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...au/le-temoin-nicolo-milioto-est-mort.php


Nicolo Milioto, alias «M. Trottoir», est décédé

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2021/05/03/nicolo-milioto-alias-m-trottoir-est-decede
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/03/21 06:05 PM

^^^^
Nicolo Milioto, Charbonneau inquiry witness known as Mr. Sidewalk, dies at 71.

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...-witness-known-as-mr-sidewalk-dies-at-71
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/21/21 04:06 PM

La libération conditionnelle de Raynald Desjardins suspendue

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...elle-de-raynald-desjardins-suspendue.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/27/21 12:00 AM

^^^^
Organized crime leader Raynald Desjardins back behind bars

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...ader-raynald-desjardins-back-behind-bars
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/27/21 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by antimafia
^^^^
Organized crime leader Raynald Desjardins back behind bars

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...ader-raynald-desjardins-back-behind-bars


Interesting!

The associate's nickname is Tooth Fairy, Denommé would take care of the affairs of Marc-André Lachance, considered by the police to be a sympathizer of the Hells Angels, also accused with another individual of having threatened the investigator of the SPVM violently beaten in a bar in Playa Del Carmen in Mexico in January 2011.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/28/21 04:14 AM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Originally Posted by antimafia
Originally Posted by horse_face
Originally Posted by mr_white
Were the Falduto brothers the shooters for the Scoppas in the Sollecito and Giordano hits, then double -crossed and killed themselves by the Scoppas? Seems like they were clearly Scoppa crew members...


no, Scarfo and Massari were on that hit. Falduto bros were eliminated because of their loyalty to the Sicilians and the territory they controlled (part of RDP)


Projet Préméditer: la taupe condamnée pour menaces de mort envers des policiers

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...our-menaces-de-mort-envers-des-policiers




Deux accusés obtiennent leur liberté provisoire

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...s-obtiennent-leur-liberte-provisoire.php


Trial begins for couple charged with murdering brothers who disappeared in 2016

https://montrealgazette.com/news/tr...rdering-brothers-who-disappeared-in-2016
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/31/21 10:40 PM

^^^^
Paul Cherry’s latest article, to which I’ve linked below, is making the rounds today.

Falduto brothers were killed by a Mafia hitman, prosecutor says

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...-by-a-mafia-hitman-prosecutor-tells-jury
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/31/21 10:46 PM

Also making the rounds today is Daniel Renaud’s article, to which I’ve linked below. Mentions are made of Francrsco Del Balso, Marco Pizzi, and Davide Barberio.

La dernière recrue des Hells Angels accusée de possession d’arme

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-angels-accusee-de-possession-d-arme.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/01/21 01:17 PM

Craintes d’attentats entre mafieux

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2021/06/01/craintes-dattentats-entre-mafieux
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/01/21 01:26 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
^^^^
Paul Cherry’s latest article, to which I’ve linked below, is making the rounds today.

Falduto brothers were killed by a Mafia hitman, prosecutor says

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...-by-a-mafia-hitman-prosecutor-tells-jury


Un couple de «nettoyeurs» aurait aidé la mafia

https://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2021/05...ettoyeurs-aurait-aide-la-mafia-italienne
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/01/21 09:40 PM

^^^^
Les téléphones de Giuseppe Falduto et d’un « Brad Pitt » ont transité par les mêmes tours

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...itt-ont-transite-par-les-memes-tours.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/09/21 02:09 AM

^^^^
Des substances biologiques retrouvées dans le garage des accusés

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...etrouvees-dans-le-garage-des-accuses.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/10/21 05:23 AM

^^^^
Falduto brothers were killed in isolated area in Quebec, jury told.

https://montrealgazette.com/news/falduto-brothers-were-killed-in-isolated-area-in-quebec-jury-told
Posted By: Tommy2Times

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/10/21 01:57 PM



I'm still waiting for Carmela's prediction from 2011 to come true? Where is this never named Calabrian boss who's taking over Montreal?
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/10/21 11:57 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
^^^^
Falduto brothers were killed in isolated area in Quebec, jury told.

https://montrealgazette.com/news/falduto-brothers-were-killed-in-isolated-area-in-quebec-jury-told


Fouilles méticuleuses, résultats mitigés

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...illes-meticuleuses-resultats-mitiges.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/17/21 10:07 PM

^^^^
Couple on trial for murder: Police uncovered small arsenal in Laval.

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...-police-uncovered-small-arsenal-in-laval
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/22/21 11:04 PM

^^^^
Le pistolet trouvé chez les accusés était fonctionnel

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...e-chez-les-accuses-etait-fonctionnel.php
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/01/21 11:26 PM

Gang leader Arsène Mompoint was shot and killed in the late afternoon in Kanesatake indigenous territory, near Oka, La Presse has learned from several sources.

Mompoint is said to have been shot at least one round of a firearm in the Greenroom on St. Michael's Road, near where a large rally took place two weeks ago.
According to our information, Arsène Mompoint was also involved in the organization of this event.
Arsène Mompoint, 47, was released from prison last April after being arrested in an anti-drug investigation by the Service de police de la Ville de Montréal (SPVM).
During his release investigation, an investigator from the Organized Crime Division of the SPVM, Francis Derome, testified and said that Mompoint and his group were "contractors" for organized crime.
“Just before the summer of 2019, source information was that Mr. Mompoint was active in murder contracts, so find people to execute the contracts or do them himself. It comes up regularly with his name, in the middle, "said the investigator.

Arsène Mompoint had a long legal history, especially in theft and possession of weapons.
In June 2017, he was sentenced to 25 months in prison after being arrested with a gun.
During these procedures, another SPVM investigator revealed that Arsène Mompoint was linked to street gangs of red allegiance and that he had been the leader of a group that allegedly executed several contracts, including murders, for the crime. organized, especially the Mafia, in recent years.

The investigator also said that police believed Mompoint was seeking to take the place of influential gang leader Gregory Woolley following the latter's arrest in the Magot-Mastiff investigation by which the Sûreté du Québec beheaded Montreal organized crime in November 2015. Woolley is currently on parole.

In August 2019, Mompoint was shot in the arm during an attempted murder in the borough of Saint-Léonard. During the investigation into the release of his alleged attacker, a police witness said that Mompoint was then the subject of a lucrative contract on his head.
"One day or another, it will brew, it's inevitable," had confided, after the release of Mompoint in April, an investigator to La Presse, on condition of anonymity, because he is not authorized to talk to the media.
The investigation into the murder of Arsène Mompoint is being led by Crimes Against the Person investigators from the Sûreté du Québec.

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...sene-mompoint-assassine-a-kanesatake.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/06/21 01:03 PM

Un individu visé par l’enquête a fréquenté la sœur de l’accusée

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...te-a-frequente-la-soeur-de-l-accusee.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/07/21 06:11 AM

^^^^
La police a utilisé sa taupe à au moins 13 reprises

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...lise-sa-taupe-a-au-moins-13-reprises.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/07/21 05:48 PM

^^^^
Mafia hitman-turned-informant says there were several attempts on his life.

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...-there-were-several-attempts-on-his-life
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/07/21 06:00 PM

^^^^
La taupe aurait été ciblée par plusieurs tentatives de meurtre

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-par-plusieurs-tentatives-de-meurtre.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/07/21 06:45 PM

The two articles to which I’ve linked below are actually from July 5 and 6.

Accused's sister claims ignorance at murder trial.
https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/woman-refuses-to-testify-against-sister-in-murder-trial

Viau sisters haven't spoken since one was charged with murders
https://montrealgazette.com/news/viau-sisters-havent-spoken-since-one-was-charged-with-murders
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/07/21 08:23 PM

Gregory Woolley ne peut pas encore retourner à la maison

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...eut-pas-encore-retourner-a-la-maison.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/08/21 03:23 PM

^^^^
Crime organisé: un influent leader devra rester en maison de transition

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2021/07/07/un-influent-leader-devra-rester-en-maison-de-transition
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/08/21 11:50 PM

La taupe de la police a avoué avoir commis trois meurtres

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-a-avoue-avoir-commis-trois-meurtres.php
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/09/21 12:00 AM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Gregory Woolley ne peut pas encore retourner à la maison

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...eut-pas-encore-retourner-a-la-maison.php


Woolley is walking on a thin line, he has a lot of enemies.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/11/21 06:40 AM

Originally Posted by antimafia
La taupe de la police a avoué avoir commis trois meurtres

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-a-avoue-avoir-commis-trois-meurtres.php


Informant doubled cannabis consumption while working for SQ, murder trial told

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...n-while-working-for-sq-murder-trial-told
Posted By: MegaMikejr

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/11/21 02:09 PM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...e-la-garde-au-sein-du-crime-organise.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/12/21 06:23 PM

Lutte contre le crime organisé : patiner sur la bottine

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...rime-organise-patiner-sur-la-bottine.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/13/21 08:39 PM

From the article to which I've linked below:

Contrats non remplis
Mardi matin, l’enquêteur Philippe Savard de la Sûreté du Québec a expliqué qu’au début de sa collaboration avec la police, l’ex-tueur à gages, dont on doit taire le nom, a dit vouloir récupérer plus de 220 000 $ de dettes qu’il avait sur la rue pour assurer ses frais de subsistances.

Il a notamment expliqué qu’un certain Charlie Renda devait à l’ACI, selon ce dernier, une somme de 60 000 $ au printemps de l’année 2019
....
____________

Le tueur à gages aurait reçu d’autres commandes pour commettre des assassinats
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...andes-pour-commettre-des-assassinats.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/14/21 01:13 PM

^^^^
Le tueur à gages aurait reçu la commande de tuer les frères Scoppa

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...a-commande-de-tuer-les-freres-scoppa.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/14/21 09:35 PM

^^^^
La police s’est demandé si sa taupe a tué Salvatore Scoppa

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...e-si-sa-taupe-a-tue-salvatore-scoppa.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/21/21 12:39 PM

^^^^
« On savait nettoyer »

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...es-freres-falduto/on-savait-nettoyer.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/22/21 09:57 PM

The incident this afternoon may be related to the Hells rather than Italian organized crime.

Un innocent blessé lors d’un attentat raté dans un café italien à Saint-Léonard
https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...-dans-un-cafe-italien-de-saint-leonard-1

Un homme blessé lors d’une tentative de meurtre
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...esse-lors-d-une-tentative-de-meurtre.php
Posted By: SimonChen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/22/21 10:12 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
The incident this afternoon may be related to the Hells rather than Italian organized crime.

Un innocent blessé lors d’un attentat raté dans un café italien à Saint-Léonard
https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...-dans-un-cafe-italien-de-saint-leonard-1

Un homme blessé lors d’une tentative de meurtre
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...esse-lors-d-une-tentative-de-meurtre.php


It seems that the target is affiliated with the HA if so the assassin might be connected to other groups.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/23/21 03:33 PM

« Lui c’est les bras, moi je suis le cerveau »

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-est-les-bras-moi-je-suis-le-cerveau.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/24/21 01:22 PM

« Tu sais que ta vie est en danger ? »

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...ion/tu-sais-que-ta-vie-est-en-danger.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/04/21 01:38 PM

Working with Mafia hit man was eye-opening, undercover officer tells jury https://montrealgazette.com/news/wo...ye-opening-undercover-officer-tells-jury

Le policier infiltré « stupéfait » de découvrir autant d’armes à feu
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...it-de-decouvrir-autant-d-armes-a-feu.php

Brownies au pot, cryptomonnaie et armes à feu
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-au-pot-cryptomonnaie-et-armes-a-feu.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/04/21 11:31 PM

Mafia hit man who became an informant set to testify in murder trial Thursday.

https://montrealgazette.com/news/ma...t-to-testify-in-murder-trial-on-thursday
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/05/21 10:19 PM

Informant says Scoppa brothers wanted to eliminate Sicilians in Montreal Mafia
The informant said Andrea and Salvatore Scoppa had plans to kill essentially anyone tied to the Sicilian clan in the Montreal Mafia.

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...to-eliminate-sicilians-in-montreal-mafia
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/06/21 01:00 AM

Témoignage explosif de l’ex-tueur à gages

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...gnage-explosif-de-l-ex-tueur-a-gages.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/06/21 04:39 PM

Informant says one victim of Mob war was 'eliminated' by mistake

https://montrealgazette.com/news/informant-says-one-victim-of-mob-war-was-eliminated-by-mistake
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/06/21 11:29 PM

^^^^
Paul Cherry continues to update that article.

Excerpt:
The informant also said he ultimately ended up working for both sides in the conflict, late in 2016, after one of the people working for the Calabrians decided it was time to betray Salvatore Scoppa and kill him.

“In either November or October 2016 (an accomplice whose name cannot be published for the time being) asked if I could get rid of Sal Scoppa and if I could find money for his head. (The accomplice) sent me to the other side, but he betrayed me,” the informant said, adding he eventually went to see a man named Charlie Renda who, he alleged, was on the Sicilian side of the conflict.

“In December, (Renda) gave me a 22 (calibre firearm) with a silencer because I said we didn’t have tools where we were working. He gave me that and an amount of $40,000. I was supposed to get $100,000 plus another $100,000 if I killed (another accomplice whose name cannot be published) for them because he did Lorenzo,” the informant said in reference to Lorenzo Giordano, another leader on the Sicilian side of the conflict who was killed in Laval in 2016.

The informant added that he did not carry out the contract for Renda.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/09/21 06:39 PM

L’accusée a rencontré Andrew Scoppa avant le double assassinat

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...ew-scoppa-avant-le-double-assassinat.php
Posted By: mike68

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/10/21 02:31 AM

So much for Mirarchi making a truce with the Rizzuto's. Sounds like he against them the whole time.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/10/21 04:24 AM

Informant in Montreal Mafia conflict probe had rocky relationship with SQ.

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...ict-probe-had-rocky-relationship-with-sq
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/10/21 10:20 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Informant in Montreal Mafia conflict probe had rocky relationship with SQ.

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...ict-probe-had-rocky-relationship-with-sq


Wow this is so similar to cases in Holland where turncoats often have conflicts with the police and prosecutors.

Earlier in his testimony, he said an alliance of Calabrian groups failed because they ultimately didn’t trust each other.
Posted By: enricopc

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/10/21 11:31 PM

Originally Posted by mike68
So much for Mirarchi making a truce with the Rizzuto's. Sounds like he against them the whole time.

But wasn't the 'truce' reported after the Scoppa killings in 2019? Like the killings of Giordano, Sollecito and else coming from Scoppa with Mirarchi (maybe) in the know but then stepping away from them (Scoppas).
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/16/21 06:13 PM

Le tueur à gages disait être une « banque d’informations »

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...isait-etre-une-banque-d-informations.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/16/21 08:37 PM

^^^^
Former hit man tells jury he was 'manipulated' into becoming an informant.

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...s-manipulated-into-becoming-an-informant
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/16/21 08:53 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
^^^^
Former hit man tells jury he was 'manipulated' into becoming an informant.

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...s-manipulated-into-becoming-an-informant


I keep reading this and don’t know if reading the right thing?

“ I would have left the police station with a rape complaint filed,” he said.” Is this person a man? Did he get raped by the HA? The cops 👮‍♀️? Both?

Seems like such a strange thing to be in the middle of all these articles and statements and nobody is asking WTF. Is that part of the manipulation?
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/17/21 10:01 PM

« Ou tu déménages avec ta femme et ton enfant ou tu pars en guerre »

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...e-et-ton-enfant-ou-tu-pars-en-guerre.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/18/21 12:59 AM

Informant says he warned SQ that Mafia leader Salvatore Scoppa would be killed.

https://montrealgazette.com/news/in...-leader-salvatore-scoppa-would-be-killed
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/18/21 03:45 AM

Un tueur à gages devenu délateur craint d’être ciblé

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2021/08/17/un-tueur-a-gages-devenu-delateur-craint-detre-cible
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/19/21 12:02 AM

Shooter who killed Salvatore Scoppa was from Toronto?

Salvatore Scoppa wasn't meant to be killed in front of his kids, informant told.

https://montrealgazette.com/news/sa...lled-in-front-of-his-kids-informant-told
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/19/21 12:34 AM

^^^^
Les accusés ignoraient que le crime serait commis chez eux, dit la taupe

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-serait-commis-chez-eux-dit-la-taupe.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/19/21 04:17 PM

Informant in Mafia murder trial confirms consuming a pound of cannabis per week.

https://montrealgazette.com/news/in...s-consuming-a-pound-of-cannabis-per-week


Man who was supposed to help in double-murder panicked, informant says.

https://montrealgazette.com/news/ma...in-double-murder-panicked-informant-says
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/19/21 09:55 PM

Un véritable climat de paranoïa régnait parmi les suspects

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-paranoia-regnait-parmi-les-suspects.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/20/21 04:02 PM

L’ex-tueur à gages dit avoir été victime d’au moins six tentatives de meurtre

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...d-au-moins-six-tentatives-de-meurtre.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/20/21 11:44 PM

Informant in Montreal Mafia murder trial says several attempts were made on his life.

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...s-several-attempts-were-made-on-his-life
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/21/21 04:23 PM

^^^^
Son complice a tenté de le tuer six fois:

https://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2021/08...n-complice-a-tente-de-le-tuer-six-fois-1
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/24/21 08:00 PM

Only carry a gun when it's needed, informant tells Montreal Mafia murder trial.

https://montrealgazette.com/news/on...ormant-tells-montreal-mafia-murder-trial
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/25/21 09:04 PM

La personnalité du tueur à gages passée au peigne fin par la défense
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-passee-au-peigne-fin-par-la-defense.php

Le tueur à gages fume du pot même en témoignant
https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2021/08/24/le-tueur-a-gages-fume-du-pot-meme-en-temoignant

Informant in Mafia murder trial is grilled about threats he made. https://montrealgazette.com/news/informant-in-mafia-murder-trial-is-grilled-about-threats-he-made
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/26/21 06:30 PM

Informant in Montreal Mafia murder trial once threatened to kill a prosecutor.
https://montrealgazette.com/news/in...ial-once-threatened-to-kill-a-prosecutor
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/31/21 05:19 AM

Nicola Spagnolo libéré d’un chef de tentative de meurtre
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...re-d-un-chef-de-tentative-de-meurtre.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/01/21 03:34 PM

Montreal Mafia murder trial resumes after juror contracted COVID-19.
https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...-resumes-after-juror-contracted-covid-19
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/02/21 12:33 PM

Procès pour les meurtres des frères Falduto | Les frères Scoppa avaient une liste d’au moins 20 personnes à abattre
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...te-d-au-moins-20-personnes-a-abattre.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/02/21 05:26 PM

Everyone who worked for Scoppa brothers wanted a piece of the pie: informant.
https://montrealgazette.com/news/ev...hers-wanted-a-piece-of-the-pie-informant
Posted By: housepainter

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/02/21 05:53 PM

Quite the list of names to come out in this process. I wonder if the name of the informant will ever come out.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/02/21 11:07 PM

Le tueur à gages voulait assassiner un autre mafieux le même jour
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...ssiner-un-autre-mafieux-le-meme-jour.php
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/02/21 11:39 PM

Originally Posted by housepainter
Quite the list of names to come out in this process. I wonder if the name of the informant will ever come out.


It's the first time in over a decade we finally learn more about the War. Is the informant a crown witness?
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/03/21 02:25 AM

Mirarchi is the real deal.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/03/21 03:40 PM

Originally Posted by housepainter
Quite the list of names to come out in this process. I wonder if the name of the informant will ever come out.


When a Twitter user asked French-language journalist Daniel Renaud about the identities of Brad Pitt and the hitman/informant, this is how Renaud replied (go to https://twitter.com/DanielRenaud13/status/1428453747785666560?s=20):

bru_lander (@Brusk DeJake) 8:38 PM · Aug 19, 2021

Will it ever be revealed who Brad Pitt or the informant is?


DanielRenaud13 (@Daniel Renaud) 10:15 PM · Aug 19, 2021

The informant no. Brad Pitt yes...one of these days.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/03/21 07:07 PM

Montreal Mafia murder trial: Accused feared for their lives before arrest.
https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...sed-feared-for-their-lives-before-arrest

« C’est bizarre, ça sent pas bon »
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...alduto/c-est-bizarre-ca-sent-pas-bon.php
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/04/21 12:57 PM

the revelation by informant of charlie rendas involvement is new info.
renda is the son of paolo and operates the loreto funeral home but up until this point had never been mentioned in an investigation.
seems to have been very active in payouts for hits.
Posted By: mike68

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/07/21 04:07 PM

So are they saying that they lose the pipeline if Mirarchi is whacked? How did he get so powerful for a younger guy?
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/08/21 01:18 AM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...lie-a-la-mafia-meurt-sous-les-balles.php


Mafia-linked cocaine importer dies from gunfire

A man was shot and killed at around 7:30 p.m. this evening in the borough of Saint-Léonard, northeast of Montreal, La Presse has learned. According to our information, the victim is Piero Arena, an individual linked to the Mafia already convicted in the past for importing cocaine.
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/08/21 02:08 AM

Interesting article. Can you convert this into English BM?
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/08/21 02:26 AM

Mafia-linked cocaine importer dies from gunfire

A man was shot and killed at around 7:30 p.m. this evening in the borough of Saint-Léonard, northeast of Montreal, La Presse has learned. According to our information, the victim is Piero Arena, an individual linked to the Mafia already convicted in the past for importing cocaine.

Arena, 63, was in his condo building on the corner of Jean-Talon and Michelet streets when gunshots were heard. The exact circumstances of the crime are not yet known.

In November 2013, Piero Arena was sentenced to seven years and three months in prison after being arrested, along with accomplices, in a Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) investigation dubbed Cynique and targeting two organizations that attempted to import cocaine in Quebec. According to the evidence, Arena had acted as an intermediary between a supplier and a buyer, Louis Vigeant, for the import of 275 kg of cocaine, valued at $ 2 million. But what Arena did not know was that Vigeant, a former criminal, had become a civilian undercover officer for the RCMP.
Piero Arena, a veteran of the crime whose family was in the entourage of the Cotroni at the time of the Calabrian predominance of the Montreal mafia, was allegedly observed by the police during the Colosseum investigation which beheaded the Sicilian mafia in November 2006.
In 2002, Piero Arena was arrested along with several individuals in connection with an investigation dubbed Clover into cocaine imports. He had been sentenced to four years for conspiracy.
He was also sentenced to 57 months in the United States for another import case dating from 1996.
Already targeted for the first time?

Arena was seated on the terrace of the Sorento café bar, located at the corner of rue Jean-Talon and rue des Angevins on July 22, when an individual opened fire in the middle of the afternoon, injuring another customer with shards of glass.

Sources believe Arena was the target in the failed attack at a licensed facility he attended.

Piero Arena is said to have been seated with a few individuals, including a member of the Hells Angels, when the shooter appeared and dropped the magazine on his weapon before retrieving it and opening fire.
According to reports, Arena is said to have been in debt. The investigation was entrusted to the Major Crimes Division of the SPVM.

NYMafia there you go.

I’ve just past in front of the place. Cops are everywhere
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/08/21 02:40 AM

Good man BM. Thank you very much. I appreciate it.

Interesting reading. It never seems to stop up there by you guys. It's like the Wild West. 1920's Chicago in the 2020s
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/08/21 02:43 AM

Yes its really crazy.

The worst thing is that, desjardins still want revenge.
And Leo Rizzuto and Sollecito are probably planning is killing.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/08/21 04:06 AM

Originally Posted by Blackmobs
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...lie-a-la-mafia-meurt-sous-les-balles.php


Mafia-linked cocaine importer dies from gunfire

A man was shot and killed at around 7:30 p.m. this evening in the borough of Saint-Léonard, northeast of Montreal, La Presse has learned. According to our information, the victim is Piero Arena, an individual linked to the Mafia already convicted in the past for importing cocaine.


Journalist Félix Séguin’s tweet:

https://twitter.com/felixseguin/status/1435444520083197955?s=21

Aréna avait manifestement des relations, à titre d’importateur de drogues, avec plusieurs factions du crime organisé.

Notons que plusieurs sources affirment que le garçon d’honneur de Arena lors de son mariage était nul autre que feu Joe Di Maulo.

2021-09-07, 11:26 PM
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/08/21 04:40 AM

Meurtre à Saint-Léonard: un proche de la mafia sauvagement abattu

https://www.journaldequebec.com/2021/09/07/un-homme-abattu-dans-un-garage-a-saint-leonard-1
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/08/21 01:27 PM

^^^^
Update: St-Léonard shooting victim had ties to organized crime in Montreal
Montreal police found Piero Arena, who had been killed gunfire, in the garage of a condo building.

https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/man-dies-in-a-st-leonard-shooting
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/08/21 07:55 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
^^^^
Update: St-Léonard shooting victim had ties to organized crime in Montreal
Montreal police found Piero Arena, who had been killed gunfire, in the garage of a condo building.

https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/man-dies-in-a-st-leonard-shooting

Additional info
“ Arena was linked to the cocaine trade and was close to the Cotroni clan.”

https://www.gangsterismout.com/2021/09/piero-arena-whacked.html
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/08/21 09:44 PM

The saga continues in MTL.
All these articles state arenas past connections to the west end gang and the cotroni faction of the Mafia and I don't doubt the accuracy.
The connections however are close to 20 yrs old.

Arena imported coke with WEG in 2002. Any reference to cotronis is pointless there is not a cotroni in MTL right now who has any influence with the Mafia.
My question as usual is who was arena allied with since his release up until his murder. Arena must have joined with somebody.
I have read in lapresse articles that he was related to or working with Franco Albanese and Domenico Agostino. Agostino...who has since died was proven in court to be paying tribute/tax to the violi bros on tobacco imports. If arena held his loyalty to the cotroni/violi of old perhaps he was still doing so after release.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/08/21 11:26 PM

I'm sure this hit is somehow related to the trial/informant.
Posted By: housepainter

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/09/21 01:24 AM

Gotta wonder if there is word out on who the informant is. I cant wait for the trail to be over to find out who Brad Pitt is.
On the other hand, mob murders in Montreal usually tend to kick off end of summer going into the fall, so this just may be the usual year kick off, kinda like pre season for Hockey.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/09/21 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Originally Posted by Ciment
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...complices-de-frederick-silva-arretes.php

Three alleged accomplices of Frederick Silva arrested

Three alleged accomplices of an individual whom the police consider a hitman, Frederick Silva, were arrested yesterday by investigators of the Major Crimes of the Police Department of the City of Montreal (SPVM).

The police force announced the arrest of three individuals this morning by way of press release, but did not give further details about the alleged acts. According to our information, the three men, or some of them, would have facilitated the Silva run, which lasted almost two years.

It is unclear whether the arrested suspects were released pending further investigation, or whether they will appear this afternoon at the courthouse in Montreal.

Silva was arrested last February by members of the SPVM's tactical intervention group (GTI) as he was walking a small dog near the condo where he was holed up in the Griffintown area near Old Montreal.

His run began in May 2017 when police suspected him of killing a client at a bar in downtown Montreal after an altercation.

Silva also reportedly tried to kill the mafioso Salvatore Scoppa in February 2017 in Terrebonne.

Frederick Silva is accused of both crimes, but also the murder of a 31-year-old Lavalman, Alessandro Vinci, in October 2018.

The police, however, suspect Silva of having committed a dozen murders, in particular that of Sebastien Beauchamp, a close friend of the bikers killed in broad daylight, in a busy crossroads of the district Saint-Leonard last December.

The investigation into the alleged crimes committed by Silva continues. It is led by the members of the Unsolved Major Crimes Section of the SPVM. Other arrests could follow.


Three arrested as Montreal police investigate suspected hitman

https://montrealgazette.com/news/three-arrested-as-montreal-police-investigate-suspected-hitman/


Le procès de Frédérick Silva s’ouvre à Montréal
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-frederick-silva-s-ouvre-a-montreal.php#
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/09/21 06:30 PM

^^^^
Trial of alleged organized crime hit man begins at Montreal courthouse
https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...me-hit-man-begins-at-montreal-courthouse
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/14/21 12:49 AM

^^^^
Procès de Frédérick Silva
Identifié cinq semaines après la tentative de meurtre sur Salvatore Scoppa

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...tive-de-meurtre-sur-salvatore-scoppa.php
Posted By: Kese

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/14/21 05:51 PM

Judge in Canada Sends Mob Bodyguard, ‘The Tooth Fairy,’ Back To Prison For Lunch With Desjardins

https://gangsterreport.com/judge-in...ack-to-prison-for-lunch-with-desjardins/
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/14/21 05:54 PM

Man charged in Montreal Mafia double homicide case testifies in his defence
Guy Dion told the jury he was led to believe a friend was simply coming over to test firearms on his property, oblivious to the murder plot.
https://montrealgazette.com/news/ma...e-homicide-case-testifies-in-his-defence


Meurtres des frères Falduto
« Il n’a jamais été question qu’ils tirent dans mon garage », témoigne Guy Dion
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...nt-dans-mon-garage-temoigne-guy-dion.php


Dion says he didn't know Falduto brothers would be killed in his garage
"I was trying to understand what was happening. But I couldn't understand."
https://montrealgazette.com/news/di...o-brothers-would-be-killed-in-his-garage


Procès pour le meurtre des frères Falduto
Guy Dion a aidé le tueur à gages par « automatisme »
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...ide-le-tueur-a-gages-par-automatisme.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/14/21 10:01 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
^^^^
Procès de Frédérick Silva
Identifié cinq semaines après la tentative de meurtre sur Salvatore Scoppa

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...tive-de-meurtre-sur-salvatore-scoppa.php


Une chasse à l’homme après la tentative de meurtre contre Salvatore Scoppa

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...e-de-meurtre-contre-salvatore-scoppa.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/15/21 07:45 PM

Being charged with murders brought us closer as a couple, accused testifies.

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...rs-brought-us-closer-guy-dion-tells-jury
Posted By: ralphie_cifaretto

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/15/21 08:26 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Being charged with murders brought us closer as a couple, accused testifies.

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...rs-brought-us-closer-guy-dion-tells-jury


Well, that's sweet
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/16/21 12:47 AM

« Je n’étais pas à l’aise mais j’ai embarqué quand même »

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...l-aise-mais-j-ai-embarque-quand-meme.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/16/21 06:42 PM

« J’avais plus peur de Salvatore Scoppa que de la police »

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...de-salvatore-scoppa-que-de-la-police.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/17/21 04:11 PM

Le procès suspendu à la suite de la chute d’un juré

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...ndu-a-la-suite-de-la-chute-d-un-jure.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/20/21 09:51 PM

L’accusée dit avoir répertorié les armes à feu pour faciliter leur vente

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...rmes-a-feu-pour-faciliter-leur-vente.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/21/21 09:10 PM

La victime est « le patron de la rue » de la mafia montréalaise

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...n-de-la-rue-de-la-mafia-montrealaise.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/21/21 09:22 PM

^^^^
Félix Séguin @felixseguin

David Barberio, un soldat bien connu de la mafia vient d’être victime d’une tentative de meurtre à Laval. Il était un associé de Marco Pizzi (lui aussi visé à plus d’une reprise dans le passé)

En collaboration avec @MaxDelandQMI

2021-09-21, 4:56 PM

https://twitter.com/felixseguin/status/1440419657614172160?s=21


Maxime Deland @MaxDelandQMI

DERNIÈRE HEURE: Un homme que la police considère comme une étoile montante de la mafia a été victime d'une tentative de meurtre à Laval. Atteint par balle à l'abdomen. Sa vie ne serait pas en danger. Suspect en fuite. pic.twitter.com/3us4KTxxyb

2021-09-21, 5:03 PM

https://twitter.com/maxdelandqmi/status/1440421465870913549?s=21
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/21/21 09:44 PM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...n-de-la-rue-de-la-mafia-montrealaise.php

Attempted murder in Laval The victim is "the boss of the street" of the Montreal mafia

A man was shot in the middle of the afternoon on Lévesque Boulevard East in Laval, La Presse has learned. According to our information, the victim is Davide Barberio, considered by the police to be the street boss of the Montreal mafia.

According to our information, Barberio was in the garage of his residence on Boulevard Lévesque Est, near Rue du Tangara, when he was allegedly struck by several high-caliber projectiles in the abdomen.

Barberio, alias Baldy, is also considered by the police to be part of the group of new decision-makers in Montreal organized crime.

According to our sources, he inherited several activities and territories from chieftain Andrew Scoppa following the latter's assassination in October 2019.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/21/21 09:46 PM

So the Montreal’s mafia scene in two weeks

- 1 homicide and 1 attempted murder
Posted By: mike68

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/21/21 10:19 PM

So who is firing back now? Is this Desjardins' buddy Mirarchi? So confused at this point.
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/21/21 10:26 PM

Originally Posted by Blackmobs
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...n-de-la-rue-de-la-mafia-montrealaise.php

Attempted murder in Laval The victim is "the boss of the street" of the Montreal mafia

A man was shot in the middle of the afternoon on Lévesque Boulevard East in Laval, La Presse has learned. According to our information, the victim is Davide Barberio, considered by the police to be the street boss of the Montreal mafia.

According to our information, Barberio was in the garage of his residence on Boulevard Lévesque Est, near Rue du Tangara, when he was allegedly struck by several high-caliber projectiles in the abdomen.

Barberio, alias Baldy, is also considered by the police to be part of the group of new decision-makers in Montreal organized crime.

According to our sources, he inherited several activities and territories from chieftain Andrew Scoppa following the latter's assassination in October 2019.


Maybe one of the narcos or snitches Scoppa was talking about? Both those brothers had ‘friends’?

The guys name just started to appear as a somebody too, hmmm?
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/21/21 10:34 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
La victime est « le patron de la rue » de la mafia montréalaise

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...n-de-la-rue-de-la-mafia-montrealaise.php


Une étoile montante de la mafia atteint par balle à Laval

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2021/09/21/un-homme-atteint-par-balle-a-laval
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/21/21 10:50 PM

Would not be surprised if this was Mirarchi, he is dangerous and old school.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/21/21 11:09 PM

Can someone explain the difference between Boss and Street Boss?

And also where in the hierarchy the street boss is?
Under the underboss and consigliere ? Or above ?
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/21/21 11:15 PM

Originally Posted by Blackmobs
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...n-de-la-rue-de-la-mafia-montrealaise.php

Attempted murder in Laval The victim is "the boss of the street" of the Montreal mafia

A man was shot in the middle of the afternoon on Lévesque Boulevard East in Laval, La Presse has learned. According to our information, the victim is Davide Barberio, considered by the police to be the street boss of the Montreal mafia.

According to our information, Barberio was in the garage of his residence on Boulevard Lévesque Est, near Rue du Tangara, when he was allegedly struck by several high-caliber projectiles in the abdomen.

Barberio, alias Baldy, is also considered by the police to be part of the group of new decision-makers in Montreal organized crime.

According to our sources, he inherited several activities and territories from chieftain Andrew Scoppa following the latter's assassination in October 2019.


Laval police investigate attempted murder of Davide Barberio.

https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/laval-police-investigate-attempted-murder-2
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/22/21 12:14 AM

in the rizzuto/sollecito faction to my knowledge the position of consigliere and underboss do not exist.
boss
street boss
cell leaders
seems to be the administration setup.
the media may be using this term "street boss" but barberio is in fact a cell leader.
OR
with noones knowledge rizzuto and sollecito no longer hold power in the MTL mafia and barberio is now the #2 of the rizzuto/sollecito faction with a new boss?
this second scenario seems unlikely it may be that barberio as a cell leader has taken a more prominent role on the street in dealing with other mafia members,HA and street gangs. these are not roles that rizzuto or sollecito would be taking on.
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/22/21 12:42 AM

another question is how does this relate to the murder 2 weeks ago of piero arena?
arena was released nov 2016 and had stayed under the radar of police but had a long record going back decades in the import of cocaine.
i can find no links between arena and barberio. there is no intell showing them as ever working together.
so you could say these 2 mafia shootings arent related in that it is not the same side being attacked.
barberio was released in the summer of 2017 from charges relating to project clemenza.
barberio was for a time allied with giuseppe devito until his death (2013).i will assume he cont'd to be allied with alessandro sucapane who is believed to have taken over devitos rackets.
then a lapresse article appears claiming he is "street boss".???
so how does a guy go from imprisoned for 3 years (2014-2017) and previously allied with a faction trying to eliminate the rizzutos to overall #2?
he doesnt see above post.
also 2 members of his cell frantz louis murdered nov 2020 and fenel milhomme attempted murder aug 2020 these could be part of a larger push into barberios territory.
the territory in question is alleged to be some that barberio took over from andrea scoppa.
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/22/21 12:54 AM

and...this might be the last for a bit both lapresse and journal de mtl link barberio to marco pizzi which could make sense.
but the articles make it sound like barberio is under pizzi in the pecking order.
marco pizzi has been identified as a cell leader of his own so the confusion is easy to understand and at times very frustrating.

as far as mirarchi being the instigator of this i would say no only because as i have stated before the very fact that he is alive after his dec 2017 release would prove either he is very well connected or indeed as most media have stated he has made a truce with current leadership.
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/22/21 01:37 AM

Originally Posted by Scalish
Would not be surprised if this was Mirarchi, he is dangerous and old school.


Hey man! Just noticed your from Hamilton?
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/22/21 08:16 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
^^^^
Trial of alleged organized crime hit man begins at Montreal courthouse
https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...me-hit-man-begins-at-montreal-courthouse


Alleged hit man placed at restaurant just before Sal Scoppa was shot.
https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...staurant-just-before-sal-scoppa-was-shot
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/22/21 11:49 PM

^^^^
Trahi par un billet de la STM ?
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-silva/trahi-par-un-billet-de-la-stm.php
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/22/21 11:57 PM

Mirarchi had a tough life losing his father at a young age he's the crown prince.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/23/21 07:06 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia


Gunman in Laval homicide needed only 30 seconds to kill
A police dog found an STM ticket with fingerprints on it near the car dealership where Alessandro Vinci was murdered in 2018.
https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/gunman-in-laval-homicide-needed-only-30-seconds-to-kill
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/23/21 09:39 PM

^^^^
Procès de Frédérick Silva

Une vie enlevée en moins de 20 secondes
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-vie-enlevee-en-moins-de-20-secondes.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/27/21 03:31 PM

Co-accused in Faldutos murder trial says she feared she might be killed.

https://montrealgazette.com/news/co...rial-says-she-feared-she-might-be-killed

L’accusée dit n’avoir absolument rien vu venir

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...dit-n-avoir-absolument-rien-vu-venir.php


On another subject....

Des familles de mafieux se partagent des terres agricoles
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...ux-se-partagent-des-terres-agricoles.php

From the article:

Les terres agricoles sont maintenant détenues par Raynald Desjardins et les proches de plusieurs mafieux vivants ou morts : la femme de Domenico Manno, la femme de Giuseppe Lo Presti, le fils et la bru de Gerlando Sciascia, le frère et la belle-mère de Giuseppe Renda. L’entrepreneur en construction Domenico Miceli, un ancien associé du mafieux Domenico Arcuri, détient aussi des intérêts dans les terrains, tout comme deux autres investisseurs minoritaires qui n’ont pas de liens familiaux connus avec le crime organisé. Au total, une dizaine d’actionnaires se partagent les terrains.

Fort potentiel de développement

Raynald Desjardins ainsi que les familles Manno, Lo Presti, Sciascia et Miceli ont tous été impliqués dans l’industrie de la construction et dans la promotion immobilière par le passé.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/28/21 08:20 PM

Marie-Josée Viau tells jury she lived in fear for months.

https://montrealgazette.com/news/marie-josee-viau-tells-jury-she-lived-in-fear-for-months
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/29/21 08:12 PM

Tout ce qu’elle a dit à la taupe était des mensonges, affirme l’accusée

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...tait-des-mensonges-affirme-l-accusee.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/30/21 05:05 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia


Filmé tout au long de son trajet dans le métro

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-au-long-de-son-trajet-dans-le-metro.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/01/21 03:46 PM

Un véhicule incendié dans Rivière-des-Prairies

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...e-incendie-dans-riviere-des-prairies.php
Posted By: jace

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/01/21 04:34 PM

I'm a bit shocked at how wild and out of control those parts of Canada are, I am in the United States and we hear nothing of this at all. Great info guys. I think eventually with all these groups in competition an incident so big (St. Valentine's Day type) will take place or the death toll will get so high the story will explode in the American media.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/04/21 10:50 PM

La Couronne et l’accusée se livrent une véritable partie d’échecs

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...ivrent-une-veritable-partie-d-echecs.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/06/21 12:42 PM

Cross-posting.
-------------------
Tweet from journalist Félix Séguin about 10 minutes earlier:

https://twitter.com/felixseguin/status/1445728125740982277?s=20

Félix Séguin @felixseguin

Ce vendredi à 21h, J.E. vous présente une émission dont nous sommes assez fiers: des vidéos inédites de l’interrogatoire du co-chef de la mafia montréalaise Leonardo Rizzuto.

On y apprend beaucoup....

@tvanouvelles
8:30 AM · Oct 6, 2021

A 15-second teaser video accompanies the tweet.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/07/21 03:22 AM

Il donne des informations sur le suspect au 911 avant de mourir

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...ur-le-suspect-au-911-avant-de-mourir.php
Posted By: DillyDolly

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/07/21 03:34 AM

I really don't think it's that much out of control, as long as it's gangsters killing gangsters. Nobody really cares unless you're a mob buff.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/07/21 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Cross-posting.
-------------------
Tweet from journalist Félix Séguin about 10 minutes earlier:

https://twitter.com/felixseguin/status/1445728125740982277?s=20

Félix Séguin @felixseguin

Ce vendredi à 21h, J.E. vous présente une émission dont nous sommes assez fiers: des vidéos inédites de l’interrogatoire du co-chef de la mafia montréalaise Leonardo Rizzuto.

On y apprend beaucoup....

@tvanouvelles
8:30 AM · Oct 6, 2021

A 15-second teaser video accompanies the tweet.


https://twitter.com/felixseguin/status/1446134629983940608?s=21
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/08/21 02:06 AM

Un homme accusé d’un incendie criminel au bureau d’une avocate de renom
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...nel-au-bureau-d-une-avocate-de-renom.php

The English-language version:

Man charged with arson of prominent Montreal lawyer’s office
https://www.thestar.com/news/canada...f-prominent-montreal-lawyers-office.html
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/08/21 05:22 AM

Le clan Rizzuto reprend le contrôle de la mafia

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2021/10/08/le-clan-mafieux-rizzuto-est-de-retour-en-force
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/08/21 10:43 AM

good article again from QC journalists,however i dont think the rizzuto/sollecitos ever fell from power.
since leonardo and stefano have been on the street this faction of the mafia has been dominant in MTL.
and looks still like 5 that form the admin of this faction.
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/08/21 02:26 PM

No mention in article of Marco Pizzi or Davide Barberio being the alleged Street boss?
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/09/21 11:39 AM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...n-chef-de-la-mafia-apres-son-arrestation

another great write up.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/09/21 02:34 PM

^^^^
Leonardo Rizzuto’s 6-hour interrogation appears to have been conducted entirely in English. The 30-minute episode actually has French subtitles for the scenes where he’s interrogated.

https://www.tvanouvelles.ca//emissions/je/video/6276210440001
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/09/21 03:10 PM

No responses to this?


The hitman turned informant described Mirarchi as being “part of the ‘Ndrangheta"
“The two Scoppa brothers wanted to hit Victor (Mirarchi) in the end and Victor wanted to get rid of the (Scoppa) brothers,” the informant said.
Posted By: DillyDolly

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/09/21 08:03 PM

Why would he put up with them interrogating him for 6 hours? I would've told them to go fuck themselves.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/09/21 09:30 PM

Originally Posted by DillyDolly
Why would he put up with them interrogating him for 6 hours? I would've told them to go fuck themselves.


He still acts like a lawyer.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/09/21 09:32 PM

Evidence portion closes of Montreal Mafia homicide trial in fifth month.

https://montrealgazette.com/news/ev...real-mafia-homicide-trial-in-fifth-month
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/10/21 11:36 AM

Originally Posted by Hollander
No responses to this?


The hitman turned informant described Mirarchi as being “part of the ‘Ndrangheta"
“The two Scoppa brothers wanted to hit Victor (Mirarchi) in the end and Victor wanted to get rid of the (Scoppa) brothers,” the informant said.


While his close associate is the neapolitan Felice Racaniello.
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/10/21 01:58 PM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...-stupefiants-saisis-et-sept-arrestations

although not stated in article this area of MTL the west island has long been claimed to be territory controlled by pietro d'adamo.
not stated in this article but looking for it in another was a ref to this drug network being tied to the WEST END GANG/irish OC??
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/13/21 01:53 AM

Police dog found important evidence near scene of Laval homicide.

https://montrealgazette.com/news/four-legged-cop-found-evidence-near-scene-of-laval-homicide
Posted By: mike68

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/13/21 04:34 PM

The one thing I haven't read about this trial is why this sales manager was murdered in the first place.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/16/21 01:22 AM

There was no plot to kill brothers, defence argues in Montreal Mafia murder trial.

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...ce-argues-in-montreal-mafia-murder-trial
Posted By: DillyDolly

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/16/21 01:30 AM

This is going to be the new great defense in mob murder trials, calling into question whether the murder was even mob-related or not.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/19/21 02:21 AM

Originally Posted by antimafia
There was no plot to kill brothers, defence argues in Montreal Mafia murder trial.

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...ce-argues-in-montreal-mafia-murder-trial


Guy Dion ignorait que des meurtres seraient commis chez lui, plaide la Défense

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...nt-commis-chez-lui-plaide-la-defense.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/19/21 02:24 AM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Police dog found important evidence near scene of Laval homicide.

https://montrealgazette.com/news/four-legged-cop-found-evidence-near-scene-of-laval-homicide


Trois pistolets utilisés pour tuer Sébastien Beauchamp

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...ilises-pour-tuer-sebastien-beauchamp.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/19/21 10:01 PM

^^^^
« Il a un pistolet, il vient vers toi ! Baisse-toi ! »

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...istolet-il-vient-vers-toi-baisse-toi.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/20/21 06:11 AM

^^^^
Witness to St-Léonard killing tried chasing the gunman.

https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/witness-to-st-leonard-killing-tried-chasing-the-gunman
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/20/21 09:52 PM

Le tueur a agi impulsivement, plaide la défense

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-agi-impulsivement-plaide-la-defense.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/21/21 11:20 AM

Un enquêteur raconte la traque du présumé tueur à gages

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...e-la-traque-du-presume-tueur-a-gages.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/21/21 11:22 AM

Vague de fusillades à Montréal: la police demande à la mafia de calmer le jeu

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2021/10/21/la-mafia-pour-lutter-contre-les-armes-a-feu
Posted By: DillyDolly

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/21/21 11:23 AM

English please
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/21/21 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Vague de fusillades à Montréal: la police demande à la mafia de calmer le jeu

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2021/10/21/la-mafia-pour-lutter-contre-les-armes-a-feu


Mafia can’t do nothing, except talking to OG’s from those hoods.
But to much blood have been spilled
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/21/21 08:18 PM

Commission Charbonneau: dix ans après, Lino Zambito attend toujours des réponses

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...ino-zambito-attend-toujours-des-reponses
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/21/21 08:20 PM

Mafia hit man was 'not the perfect witness,' Crown admits in murder trial's closing arguments

https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/crown-makes-closing-arguments-in-mafia-murder-trial
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/21/21 10:26 PM

Originally Posted by Blackmobs
Originally Posted by antimafia
Vague de fusillades à Montréal: la police demande à la mafia de calmer le jeu

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2021/10/21/la-mafia-pour-lutter-contre-les-armes-a-feu


Mafia can’t do nothing, except talking to OG’s from those hoods.
But to much blood have been spilled


Lutte aux fusillades à Montréal: tout le monde doit s’impliquer, même la mafia, dit le PLQ

https://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2021/10...real-la-mafia-doit-simpliquer-dit-le-plq
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/22/21 12:22 AM

if barberio holds this "street boss" position the gangs in his area are not listening.
new intell though stating that barberio/pizzi have control of R.D.P. since the death of salvatore scoppa.
one of the 2 gangs that are fighting in the area though must be under the direction of the barberio-pizzi cell.
neither of these gangs have the ability to wholesale import any kind of drug. most likely sourcing drugs from mafia or H.A. for distribution.
seeing as the article states barberio/pizzi control R.D.P then one of the gangs are getting drugs from them.
Posted By: LuanKuci

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/22/21 07:29 AM

Originally Posted by Journal de Montreal
The rise of Pizzi and Barberio coincides with his association for two years with the Rizzuto clan, which itself has once again become the most dominant criminal group in the Montreal mafia.
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/22/21 09:43 AM

Originally Posted by VitoCahill
if barberio holds this "street boss" position the gangs in his area are not listening.
new intell though stating that barberio/pizzi have control of R.D.P. since the death of salvatore scoppa.
one of the 2 gangs that are fighting in the area though must be under the direction of the barberio-pizzi cell.
neither of these gangs have the ability to wholesale import any kind of drug. most likely sourcing drugs from mafia or H.A. for distribution.
seeing as the article states barberio/pizzi control R.D.P then one of the gangs are getting drugs from them.



I honestly think they need Woolley to control the gangs, I think hes still on restrictions. Also not sure if he wields 5he same influence today. Scoppa seemed to be a rival and enemy of his, maybe he got stronger?

Need more intel...
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/22/21 05:20 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Mafia hit man was 'not the perfect witness,' Crown admits in murder trial's closing arguments

https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/crown-makes-closing-arguments-in-mafia-murder-trial


« Ils le savaient que des meurtres allaient être commis dans leur garage »

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...llaient-etre-commis-dans-leur-garage.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/22/21 05:33 PM

Radio-Canada devra payer 60 000 $ à un homme d’affaires
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...a-payer-60-000-a-un-homme-d-affaires.php

Diffamation : Radio-Canada condamnée à payer 60 000 $ en Cour d’appel
https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/1833563/cour-appel-jugement-radio-canada-60-000-lee-lalli
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/25/21 10:24 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
^^^^
No bail for men charged with assault on retired Montreal police officer

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...ault-on-retired-montreal-police-officer/


Preliminary inquiry begins for three men charged with attack on Montreal detective

https://montrealgazette.com/news/pr...harged-with-attack-on-montreal-detective
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/26/21 05:47 AM

Le fils d’un mafieux notoire associé aux Hells Angels

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2021/10/26/le-fils-dun-mafieux-notoire-associe-aux-hells-angels
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/26/21 05:49 AM

The son of a notorious mobster associated with the Hells Angels
Raynald Desjardins boy reportedly runs a biker loan business

The son of the kingpin Raynald Desjardins would be associated with two "very influential" members of the Hells Angels who have close links with the Rizzuto clan.
This is what internal police documents on organized crime in Quebec reveal in 2021, to which our Investigation Bureau had access.

This information would partly explain the lull that has reigned in the Montreal mafia since 2019, after fifteen years of deadly blood feuds between rival factions.

Information is circulating that a truce could have been intervened earlier this year in the conflict between Raynald Desjardins and the Rizzuto clan.
Imprisoned for plotting the assassination of a mafia opponent, Raynald Desjardins was himself the target of a murder plot orchestrated in 2015 by ex-Hells Angels chief Maurice "Mom" Boucher.
The latter is imprisoned for life for the murders of two correctional officers in 1997.
Private loans
The Hells Angels Martin Robert and Stéphane Plouffe are at the head of a criminal organization "with considerable financial means" which has for several years controlled the "lucrative" narcotics market on the North Shore of Montreal and in the Laurentians, according to reports that we were able to consult.
Mathieu Desjardins, 32, is identified as one of the "associates" of this group.
The Sûreté du Québec writes that Martin Robert is allegedly involved in the financing of a private loan business held by Raynald Desjardins.

The latter's son, Mathieu, "would have taken back control of this business since his father's imprisonment," according to these documents.

The organization led by the two members of the Hells from the Montreal chapter also maintains good contacts with most of the other major factions of Quebec organized crime.

Mafia financier

Among other things, the police consider Plouffe and Robert among the associates and financiers of the Rizzuto clan, which has once again become the dominant group of the Montreal mafia.

They are also in a "relationship" with Davide Barberio, the "street boss" of the Mafia that the police recently instigated to calm things down in the northeast of the city, struggling with an outbreak of shootings between gangs, as our Bureau of Investigation reported last week.


? Police believe that Robert and Plouffe's group has expanded its activities elsewhere in the country as well as abroad, where it has "extensive contacts" in cocaine trafficking and money laundering.

Arrested with a gun downtown

Raynald Desjardins’s son was caught with an illegally acquired pistol after his father was targeted by a killer with an AK-47 ten years ago.

On the morning of September 16, 2011, a gunman fired 17 times in the direction of Raynald Desjardins's SUV, in full traffic, in Laval, but the kingpin escaped unscathed.

On June 6 of the following year, Mathieu Desjardins, then 23, was arrested in possession of a loaded 9mm caliber pistol while in a jewelry store in downtown Montreal.

"Stupid" gesture

The latter then pleaded guilty, while qualifying his gesture as "stupid".

He claimed in court that he obtained the weapon because he was "afraid for his safety" after the attempted murder of his father.

In April 2016, Judge Jean-Pierre Boyer imposed 12 months in prison on him, concluding that it was an "isolated act" by a young man whose only criminal record remains.

The magistrate also noted at that time that Mathieu Desjardins was "not known to be affiliated with any criminal organization".

“He knows that being the son of Raynald Desjardins has earned him a certain prestige with various people, but he claims to have been able to remain detached from it. He denies having any attraction for marginality and delinquency, "said Judge Boyer.

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2021/10/26/le-fils-dun-mafieux-notoire-associe-aux-hells-angels
Posted By: mike68

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/26/21 04:08 PM

If there is now a truce as this article suggests, who is responsible for the attempted murder of Barberio a few weeks back?
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/26/21 05:20 PM

Great question Mike 68 also how does Piero arena feel about said truce?
The article also states Mathieu is operating a private lending business.
I can only assume it is a legit one as is legal in QC. Otherwise the author would have just said loanshark.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/27/21 05:29 AM

Méconnaissable, «Mom» rêve de vengeance

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2021/10/27/meconnaissable-mom-reve-de-vengeance
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/29/21 01:45 AM

Consider hit man's testimony with care, judge tells jury in Montreal Mafia murder trial

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...ells-jury-in-montreal-mafia-murder-trial
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/30/21 12:38 AM

^^^^
Hit list revealed during murder trial sheds light on Mafia conflict

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...rder-trial-sheds-light-on-mafia-conflict
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/30/21 07:12 AM

https://www.journaldequebec.com/202...x-premiers-chapitres-du-livre-le-parloir

November 19, 2015, Sûreté du Québec headquarters, rue Parthenais, Montreal

- It's an important day for you, Greg! Probably the one that will have the most impact in your life. I can tell you that from today your life will change completely.
Gregory Woolley sketches a barely perceptible smirk on hearing Detective Sergeant Steve Girard give him this warning in a tone yet quite convincing. Two hours earlier, the influential gangster was dragged out of bed by a group of police who came to apprehend him at his home. In total, four autopatrols were mobilized, each identified with one of the police forces participating in this large-scale operation: the Sûreté du Québec, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, the Service de police de la Ville de Montréal and the Service de la Ville de Montréal. of the Longueuil agglomeration. Woolley was then escorted to Sûreté du Québec headquarters on Parthenais Street in Montreal while police searched his residence in Saint-Hubert. This morning, the ex-Hells Angels henchman, who many now call "the black godfather" of street gangs in Montreal, was not the only one leaving his home in handcuffs. About 40 other suspects, including heads of the Montreal mafia and members of the Hells, are also targeted in this large-scale crackdown.

It's 8:15 am Woolley has spent the last 60 minutes, eyes closed, slumped in an office chair, when Sergeant Girard walks into the small, gray-walled interrogation room where silence reigned. The 43-year-old is dressed in a white t-shirt and jogging pants; he does not even sit up when the investigator asks him to sit "properly". Visibly sleep deprived, he casually supports his head with his right hand, while the rest of the body is leaning against a small table that separates him from the policeman. His body language is unambiguous: Woolley doesn't want to hear from the investigator. While trying to stay calm, he remains silent as a carp when Girard asks him questions. Worse, pretending to ignore it, he does not even deign to look in the direction of the policeman, who is to his right. Woolley remained behind bars between 2000 and 2011 for conspiracy to murder, drug trafficking and gangsterism, and he now faces those same charges. But he has seen others.

During the 1990s, during the time of the biker wars, the leader of the Hells Angels, Maurice "Mom" Boucher, recruited this member of a street gang to make him one of the henchmen of this criminal gang. According to the internal rules of the Hells, no black can be admitted as a member in good standing of the "big club". However, in the summer of 1998, four days after being acquitted of the murder of a trafficker linked to their rivals Rock Machine, Woolley still obtained his "patches" as a member of the Montreal Rockers, the dreaded club-school of the Hells. . A few years later, Woolley was charged with another murder, that of Pierre Beauchamp, a Rock Machine cocaine supplier. On December 20, 1996, Beauchamp was killed at close range while driving his minivan on Sainte-Catherine Street, then busy due to Christmas shopping. The Crown believed it had irrefutable proof of the accused's guilt. Woolley’s DNA was found in a fisherman’s hat found in a trash can at the Bonaventure metro station, in which the Montreal police also found a gun identified as the murder weapon. But the police officer tasked with documenting the evidence-gathering at the scene was a recruit, on his very first career murder case. He not only made several rookie mistakes, but he also lied under oath during the trial, in order to cover up his mistakes. Citing the fabrication of evidence thesis, the defense asked the jury to find Woolley not guilty. All the more so since no fingerprints could be identified on the gun and no eyewitnesses were able to incriminate the accused. Woolley had again been acquitted.

On that rainy and windy morning of November 19, 2015, Sergeant Girard occasionally continues to ask questions of what he simply calls Greg. But he receives no response from her. Obviously, Woolley, who is known to the police for not being talkative with them, will still live up to his reputation and remain silent. So Girard will speak. It's still early days anyway, and there's no rush until Woolley's scheduled afternoon appearance.
Sergeant Girard is not the first to come to the investigation of murders and murder plots. In addition, he knows a little about the world of organized crime. He notably participated in the Baladeur investigation project, following which Gérald Gallant, the contract killer of the enemies of the Hells Angels during the biker war, became an informer, admitted to being the author of 28 murders, in addition to denounce the sponsors and accomplices of his crimes. Investigator Girard also arrested the boss Raynald Desjardins in December 2011 for a murder plot targeting Salvatore Montagna, an aspiring patron of the Montreal Mafia. A few months earlier, Desjardins had survived a flurry of projectiles fired in his direction with an AK-47 machine gun.
Desjardins, who suspected Montagna to be behind the attack, admitted his guilt the previous summer and is still awaiting sentence as Girard attempts to cook Woolley. This is good: Raynald Desjardins will be mentioned during this questioning which will have quite a long monologue.

Girard takes his time, even if Woolley would prefer to get it over with as soon as possible. Dressed in a purple shirt, dark gray pants, and a black tie, the sergeant brought his chair up to Woolley's. The two men, who both have shaved heads, are very close to each other. Their knees are almost touching. Sometimes Woolley has his eyes riveted on the ground, sometimes he looks straight ahead, never meeting the policeman's gaze. Girard, on the contrary, does not take his eyes off him for a moment. He speaks to her in a measured but firm tone, while frantically chewing on an eraser. The investigator has placed a laptop on the small table, but he does not need it at this time.
"We showed up at your place this morning at 6 am," Girard told him, starting to explain to Woolley how and why he found himself confined against his will to a police station rather than lying in bed. To notify you of our presence in front of your house, we turned on the flashing lights of our four patrol vehicles and one of the vehicles woke you with a siren. Me and my colleague Martin Robert, we knocked on your door. I showed my police badge to the surveillance camera. You came to open. You were in your underwear. I showed you we have a warrant to arrest you. You took the time to read it. I informed you that you were under arrest for conspiracy to traffic cocaine and gangsterism. And also for a murder plot that you made with Maurice "Mom" Boucher and her daughter ... "
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/30/21 07:20 AM

Today, as you can see, some big names have fallen. Big hitters. Rizzuto, Sollecito, today, it was not expected to fall. Mr. Cavaliere, he didn't think his legal career was going to end today. You are the common denominator that makes the majority of people in that group fall today. The manager, Greg, is you. It is your actions that cause the image of crime in Montreal to change completely from today. It's your fault. What I know about you is that you're not the type to talk to the police or yell at the police. But be man enough to listen to what's against you. "
Greg, you got out of prison in 2011. And already in 2012, our news sources told us that you wanted to take your place back at all costs. That you were prepared to use violence, murder, to make your place. That you wanted to bring everyone together. That you were a ticking time bomb. And that you were on the verge of getting out of hand. Guys like Rizzuto, Sollecito and Cavaliere are low profile guys. You don't really hear from them. You know who they are, but it feels like at no point in time they want to put the police spotlight on them. Quite the opposite of you. " You must know that whatever I am going to tell you, I am able to demonstrate it with facts. It's going to be in the disclosure of the evidence you're going to receive from the Crown. Do you understand that? In 2012, you managed to form an alliance with Sollecito and Rizzuto. And with other small groups alongside, under Alliance control. From you and the Italians. " We understand that when you form an alliance, you will displease some people. We know very well that you wanted to bring everyone together under the supervision of your Table. As in the biker war, we agree that there are sacrifices to be made. Because, for sure, you can't please everyone, Greg. You take the place of certain people, impose your ideas on yourself. Impose your laws in the middle. Much like the one who sponsored you to get into bikers, "Mom" Boucher tried to do in the 1990s by imposing his rules with the Rock Machines, independents and others he waged war against. You, on a smaller scale, wanted to do the same thing. You wanted to follow your godfather in the way you do things. " We don't expect a guy like Maurice "Mom" Boucher today to talk to us. Worse, it is certain that he will not be offered a contract to become an informer. OK ? That’s my impression. Although, maybe after years of incarceration, when he finds out that we know his daughter was involved ... When he realizes that she too is going to go inside for a little while ... She who has just given birth. Maybe sometimes it can get someone to understand something. " Usually there is wiretapping in a large police investigation. You know there are some who escape a little more than others, who are less careful with their words. There are also spinning mills. Although you are very awake to this, I must tell you that most of the time, we achieve incredible results by physical surveillance of our suspects. Often, thanks to conventional spinning, that leads us to be able to obtain something else. I will not surprise you, we know that Me Cavaliere warns you about a lot of cases. But at some point, you can't predict everything. Surprises happen. You are going to make mistakes. This may lead us to install cameras and microphones in certain places. You know, there is no such thing as a foolproof protection system. No matter how much you want to protect yourself from everything ... In my career, I saw guys who had rottweilers or cameras in their house to prevent the police from going to put microphones, then we came back like that to put them on . You are never going to outrun us enough that we won't be able to stop you. We're going to be able to stop you all the time. For a lot of reasons. Sometimes because you are surrounded by the weak. Other times, because you make mistakes. At some point you all make mistakes. Because you think you are the kings. When you think of yourself as the king, you'll let your guard down. And for sure at some point there is going to be a lucky punch that will hit your nose. Then you will fall. That's life. When you are too sure of yourself, when you think you are in control of the city of Montreal, you think yourself above the fray. And you think nothing can get to you.

But like I told you, you have become THE priority for the police. You were the man who had to be removed from the island of Montreal to get some security back, to make things quieter in your area. So there is nothing that was left to chance in the investigation. Because you crossed the line. Not only did you distribute kilos of cocaine in the market, but you also used extreme violence. You led to the creation of Project Magot which targeted you and your gang. It’s rare that you are able to leave the streets and go to the top. And the boss is you. This is Stefano Sollecito. It's Leonardo Rizzuto. We reached the top in this investigation. I'll never thank you enough for that. ” There is one thing that fascinated me about what I read and learned in the investigation that started with you, Greg. You know that I am from Quebec. And I had the chance to work on the investigation into Gerald Gallant's case. Do you know Gerald Gallant? In the biker war, he was the killer of the Rock Machines and the West End Gang. He's the one who killed Bruno Van Lerberghe, a full patch HA, and Bob Savard, your godfather's right hand ... of "Mom" Boucher. At the time, that investigation led me to meet guys like the Rock Machine Fred Faucher and Marcel Demers. And Raymond Desfossés, a West End Gang boss who gave Gallant contracts. It's all from the world that you know. It also led me to meet a lot of guys, like Gilles Lambert and André "Frisé" Sauvageau, who were also in the Rock Machine at that time, but who are now in the HA. In Operation SharQc, the police were investigating the Hells killing the Rocks. We did the opposite with Gallant. We listened to Sauvageau, Lambert - and Cazzetta, who is made your leader or, at the very least, a very important person in the Hells Angels. I was listening to these guys talk and they all wanted to rip your head off. They said you were rats. Reliable steps. Crosseurs. And then, when I read that you ended up with "Frisé" Sauvageau, who was an enemy at the time ... He who said: "Never that I am going to enter the Spits!" Because he called you Spits, instead of HAs. And then you got to know these guys who declared war on you.

You trust them. I don't understand, Greg. I don't understand how you can come to trust these people. I don't understand how you can even tack your cockpit covers. How can you agree to bring the wolves into the fold and then trust them? Me, it seems to me that I would trust my guys, the ones I grew up with in the organization, with whom I fought at the time. You who were a bit the dolphin of

Mom »Butcher ...
So, for the first time, Sergeant Girard opens the laptop he had placed on the table, right next to him and Woolley. He glances back at the suspect and pauses, as if to arouse the suspect's curiosity, before moving on.
- I'm going to tell you about the plot you made with
"Mom" Boucher and her daughter, Alexandra. I know he's been good for you, "Mom". And I also know you're good for him, for example. What is disturbing about this is that although "Mom" Boucher has been detained for several years, he maintains some contact with the outside world. We also know that "Mom" Boucher, her support is crumbling quite a bit. But you will endure it. Investigation shows that you continue to send him $ 4,000 monthly envelopes. Except that, according to what we know, the amount is going down. And there it won't be long before he will be forgotten. Because if there is one who has blundered, if there is one who has made enemies, it is him. He continued to blunder, even in the penitentiary. What happened with Raynald Desjardins was another very big blunder he just made. We know that you are not going to see "Mom" Boucher in prison, but clearly, you have given your consent for an upcoming plot to have Raynald Desjardins killed. I don't know if "Mom" is less alert after all these years in it. I think he's starting to get rusty and he's become less vigilant. But if you want to pass messages and you're in the USD, it's not that easy. It can cause you to make mistakes. That’s what I meant when I said earlier that you think yourself above everything. That you think you are unattainable. And you're running to ruin with that. ” So, "Mom" Boucher, in all his glory, he brought his daughter to the penitentiary. His own daughter. So she can deliver her messages to you. Because he couldn't get them straight to you. And he implicated her in this plot. It's Maurice's daughter "Mom" Boucher anyway, so I sure didn't expect her to fit into the nuns. But still, his father made him cross a line and I find that quite ordinary. And Greg, you're going to see that, like her, you too are in trouble because of him. "

You will understand that in this investigation, it was also necessary to use technical means. We therefore went before a judge to bugger Parlor A of the penitentiary where visits were made between Alexandra Mongeau and her father. We have two cameras, one that points to "Mom" Boucher and one to Alexandra. We see that the two suspect that they could be listened to. They say big things about it, then they talk to each other only by articulating words, without hearing them, or by whispering. But you are able to read their lips and understand. Especially “Mom” Boucher. They also make gestures. When they talk about you in the parlor, "Mom" Boucher and Alexandra touch each other's cheeks. It's a code not to say your name, but we know they're talking about you. In my opinion, this code may have something to do with the color of your skin. You'll see, when they talk about you, we're sure they're talking about you even if they don't say your name. At each of their meetings, we have both camera angles. You'll see...

Sergeant Girard then invites Woolley to move his chair so that he sits directly next to him, in front of the small table where he has placed his laptop. While continuing to chew his gum, the investigator then plays a video recording, then turns the computer screen towards the suspect and turns up the volume.
An obese prisoner, with short hair but all white, appears on the screen. You can hear him laugh out loud, mumble something and then cough. Gregory Woolley can't help but take a close look at this bespectacled 60-year-old who the investigator calls his "godfather." This man, who shook the whole of Quebec not so long ago, is unrecognizable at first glance. The years he spent locked in a "super-max" with the worst criminals in the country have clearly done their work.
- Has it been a long time since you last saw him? Girard asks him. He has changed into a sacrament! Ouffff! Looked. Then listen carefully ...
***
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/30/21 07:22 AM

Parlor A, Regional Reception Center / Special Detention Unit,

Sainte-Anne-des-Plaines
- Daddy! cries Alexandra Mongeau affectionately.
This is how she greets her father, whom the correctional officers have just escorted to one of the visiting rooms in the penitentiary where inmate visits take place. This is parlor A, since we are in sector A of the USD, which also includes sector B. A large sign on a black background with the capital letter A inscribed in white is clearly visible inside of the visiting room.
Maurice Boucher arrives smiling in the small cubicle, wearing a simple white t-shirt and a pair of jeans. He sits opposite his daughter, behind a plexiglass wall similar to the floor-to-ceiling windows of hockey rinks. It is 9.43 a.m. on a hot July morning in 2015.

Outside, it's a blazing sun. But of course, only his daughter was able to benefit from it.
- Did I wake you up? asks Alexandra, whose long hair is dyed platinum blonde.
- No why?
- Well ... I don't know. It's really rare that I come to visit you in the morning. I thought, "Maybe he's asleep."
- Well no. I get up at 6 o'clock.
- Ah! Like me, remarks her well-dressed daughter in a loose, pale blouse, white leggings and a pair of sandals.
- You've slimmed down, looks like. Eh ? Boucher asks, smiling, proud of his joke.
- Ha ha! I knew you were going to tell me that. I am on the eve of splitting. I gained ten pounds this month. Still.
- Get up then, see, that I see.
Alexandra immediately gets up from one of the two chairs which, placed next to each other, take up the entire width of the visitors' section of the parlor.
- Well, you look stable. Show me your belly. Put that up there, Boucher asks, pointing to the bottom of Alexandra's blouse.
- We're good with that. Maternity pants.
- It's done on purpose. Looks like you've lost some butt.
- I don't think so. It must be an optical illusion. I think the bigger the belly, the smaller the rest of it looks, she said humorously.
- But you look healthy.
- Yes. With my double chin.
- You have four, he laughs.

Three, let's say.
- Four, he repeats, continuing to laugh. I saw them quickly there. How are you, my baby?
- It's okay, but I can't stand it. Are you Hot?
It's so hot outside.
- It's not that bad. It’s tolerable. It seems to me that we got hotter than that last year.
- Tomorrow they announce like 30 degrees.
- Bah! It’s not hot. We had 35s last year.
- But you guys don't have air conditioning there?
- No. Here, if you want air, you have to run. Worse, it doesn't tempt me to run. Because it's hot when you stop, he laughs at his joke.
- What have you done to yourself here? she asks him, pointing a finger to his mouth. You look split.
- Ah, that's a sore spot.
- A cold sore?
- Well, it started with a bump on the inside. I think it's because I cut myself with the razor on the last stroke. There, I'm not shaving because I'm afraid to cut myself with the razor. Worse on top of that, I had lots of plaques here on my throat. Like some kind of eczema there, you know. They gave me antibiotics.
- But are you still spitting?
- I spit, but not like before, he said after having a hard cough.
- Is it less worse?
- Less worse than winter. Worse, have you been to see him? Boucher asks his daughter, touching her cheek.

- No, I'm trying, I'm kidding, I'm kidding, but there's no time. I tried to see it, but it’s quite steep.
- You know, in the mafia business here. Raynald ... The banks? Eh? says "Mom", which suddenly changes the subject.
- Banks? Alexandra repeats without really understanding.
- Desjardins banks! insists his father while whispering a name.
- Raymond? she whispers to him in turn, not sure she got it right.
- Not Raymond, Raynald! Boucher then said aloud, with a long, sonorous laugh, as he stood up and raised his chest.
- Ah, answers Alexandra simply while waiting for the continuation.
The ex-chief biker then stretches his arms outstretched. The parlor is so narrow that he presses the palms of his hands against the wall on either side. For a few seconds, he stares his daughter in the eye. Then, after pulling his jeans up higher on his waist, he breaks that short moment of silence he has knowingly caused, as if what he is going to say next matters a lot.
- OK. Because, in my opinion, he's going to come here. If he comes here, we will be able ... I know someone who can ..., he said whispering the last word, while making a repetitive gesture of the arm, as if pretending to stab someone. If he wants, he adds, while touching his cheek to signify that Woolley is the one to ask if he's okay.
- Cuddle, you tell me that worse ... It's crazy, there, I do not know. But whatever he is ..., his daughter stammers nervously, uncertainly.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/30/21 07:29 AM

Boucher simply answers him with a look.
And a little smile.
- OK, I know. It's none of my business. That's my curiosity, she said, answering her own question herself.
- We won't talk about it. You'll see, it's better. Because me, that leaves me indifferent, you know. I know him well, me, Raynald. But so many things have happened ... that it doesn't hurt me. Anybody. All my supposed friends ... Trash!
- Yes N.
"Ask her if he knows anyone in New Brunswick," he adds, touching his cheek again, "for her to pass this message on to Woolley."
"Mom" mentions that he heard that Desjardins could be transferred to a maximum security penitentiary located in this Maritime province, rather than that of Sainte-Anne-des-Plaines.
- Looks like they opened up a row over there just for people like me. You know, the world that Quebec wants to get rid of. Anyway, excuse me, my little baby, for having had renewed ...
- Anger, she said, finishing her father's sentence.
- Worse mom, now, I can't call her. When we talk to each other on the phone, every time, she talks to me about money right away, continues Boucher, talking about Alexandra’s mother, Louise Mongeau. The one "Mom" calls "mum" is his former mistress, with whom he had two children. During the time they were dating, she affectionately referred to him as "my little kitty," according to what the police discovered while investigating the former Hells chief.

- Mom? Alexandra asks.
- Yes N. Right away, there. Makes me lose my whistle, huh.
- Is tiring with that. I said more.
- We talk two to three minutes on the phone, and it's over. Worse, she said, "Call me there." I want to call him, Alex. How would I say that ...? I shut my mouth on anything mom could have done to me. I never said a word ostia. I never put mom down. But I want to have minimal contact with her. How would I tell you that ... Mom, I love him, I adore him, I love him all the time. It has been a love in my life. But she's mean. With me, at least. She's not the same when you're there with her. Worse, I'm playing along because I don't want to show you how much animosity one can have.

Boucher and his daughter then have a heated discussion in which the ex-leader of the Hells drops a few coronations while calling someone a "hypocrite host" and "emptying screech." Neither the father nor the daughter mentioned his name, but the police understand that Boucher is referring to André Sauvageau, a member of the Hells Angels. The veteran biker, then 59, is nicknamed the "Curly" in the underworld because he has been bald for a long time. He was among the enemies of "Mom" during the murderous war that the latter waged. During the 1990s, Sauvageau was one of the most influential members of the Rock Machine. He joined the ranks of the Hells in May 2001, a few months after the two clans reached a truce, when Boucher was already in prison. Sauvageau is one of the only Hells Angels not to have been arrested in Operation SharQc, which sent 156 gang members and associates behind bars in 2009, precisely because he had not fought this bloody war on the Butcher sides. As part of the Magot investigation project that it was then leading, the Sûreté du Québec suspected Sauvageau of being one of the leading heads of a network of traffickers which sold nearly 50 kilos of cocaine per year in the east. of Montreal, mainly in the Hochelaga-Maisonneuve district. Sauvageau would also oversee the system of royalties - the "taxes," in middle jargon - of 10% that the Hells collect on sales from drug traffickers established in territory controlled by bikers. One of Sauvageau's business partners is said to be Boucher's ex-protégé Gregory Woolley. The previous winter, more specifically on February 19, 2014, Alexandra Mongeau was arrested on the sidelines of the same investigation as she was leaving an apartment on rue Cuvillier that was used as a hiding place for the Hells. She was in possession of a few thousand dollars at the time, which the police said was the result of drug trafficking. Incidentally, André Sauvageau and Alexandra’s mother seem to be good friends. On the evening of February 13, the police officers who were watching Sauvageau on his return from a trip abroad, at the Montreal-Trudeau airport, were surprised to observe him accompanied by the former mistress of Maurice "Mom" Butcher.

- You know, what's the connection? Mom won't say it now. She will tell you: "Well no, well no ... we're just friends." But do you have a friend who took a woman on a trip like that, ostie, just to ... well no, we're just gonna eat chips together. Eh? Butcher spits.
- No, that's it.
- You know, mom, it's always the same big poop that I have against her. Because I know what she is like, Mom. She's been with everyone I know. It's been several years but ... It bothered me without bothering me. Y'know? I was wondering, "Crisse, are you crazy?" "She let me down. Worse, I was the only person who would have helped her. Because I am the father of children. Even if she would give me her opinion ... I'm going to demolish her, her opinion. I can skate, too. In my head, it's like, "The time I was with you, I loved you, we had two beautiful children." But it always comes back to me when she said to me too: "My children, if it is not with you, I have to have them with another." She told me that, mom. She hurt me so much.
- It's mean.
- She said to me, "Crisse, you never forgave me. "I said," Louise, I have always forgiven you. I forgave you the same day you did to me. But I don't have to forget it. I forgive, but I don't forget. In any case, life is not easy, my baby.

Oh no. You know, knowing that I would be in that situation, I would have done my things differently. I wouldn't have had a child. Now is not the time for that to happen. I know this will work out, but how nice life sends you stuff sometimes ... It's stressful.
- Maybe it will be settled with your boyfriend. I do not know it. But if not, stay on good terms with the child.
- Well at least we're on good terms.
- Anyway, you had a choice. We had discussed this at the beginning. I said, "My baby, maybe now is not the time ..."
- I think there's never a good time. Something will always happen.
- You are right in a way, because life today ... Life, there, it keeps you sticking out. Life today seems like it's not for kids.
- It's a world of selfish people.
- It is to put a child in misery by giving birth today because it is worse than before. The family is keeping better. The world is bad. Everyone, it's fair: money, money, money, money ... It's more about being nice, polite and welcoming, there. Before that, the world wasn't even barring their door at home. Where do I come from, me, in the Gaspé, in Causapscal, in any case ...
- Worse, I'm thinking of having an alarm system put on, you know, Alexandra said, laughing to lighten the mood.
- That's it. Worse if you forgot to put the alarm system on, you got robbed. But where I can encourage you to have a child is that it will unblock you. You will see that life is not more beautiful. But she's taking it better. Because you have someone to give love to all the time. Unconditional love, you know. You will see, there is an ostia of beautiful part in that, my baby.
- I'm going to have a blast.
- Oh yes, you're going to have a blast.
***
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/30/21 07:30 AM

This is a chapter of the book le parloir
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/30/21 12:23 PM

Des aveux jamais entendus par les jurés

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-aveux-jamais-entendus-par-les-jures.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/31/21 09:19 PM

^^^^
Les jurés demandent de réécouter des parties des témoignages des accusés

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-parties-des-temoignages-des-accuses.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/02/21 06:22 PM

Alleged hit man Frédérick Silva brings his murder trial to a halt. His lawyer enters a non-contest plea.
https://montrealgazette.com/news/alleged-hit-man-frederick-silva-brings-his-murder-trial-to-a-halt

Revirement majeur au procès de Frédérick Silva
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-majeur-au-proces-de-frederick-silva.php

Un tueur à gages présumé veut mettre fin à son procès
https://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2021/11/02/un-tueur-a-gages-presume-veut-mettre-fin-a-son-proces

Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/08/21 07:36 AM

Montreal Mafia murders: Jury acquits Guy Dion, convicts Marie-Josée Viau
https://montrealgazette.com/news/mo...s-guy-dion-but-convicts-marie-josee-viau

Viau coupable de complot et de meurtre au second degré, Dion acquitté
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...eurtre-au-second-degre-dion-acquitte.php
Posted By: mike68

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/08/21 05:17 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Montreal Mafia murders: Jury acquits Guy Dion, convicts Marie-Josée Viau
https://montrealgazette.com/news/mo...s-guy-dion-but-convicts-marie-josee-viau

Viau coupable de complot et de meurtre au second degré, Dion acquitté
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...eurtre-au-second-degre-dion-acquitte.php


I wonder if Guy Dion is in more danger than his girlfriend now that he will on the street while she won't.
Posted By: vito_andolini

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/09/21 12:31 AM

Ya, especially given that he knows the true identity of "Brad Pitt."
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/09/21 11:47 PM

Gangsterism Out: Rat hit man reveals Scoppa brothers hit list [with accompanying photos]

https://www.gangsterismout.com/2021/11/rat-hit-man-reveals-scoppa-hit-list.html
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/10/21 02:19 PM

Charbonneau Commission corruption investigation docuseries coming to Crave

https://cartt.ca/charbonneau-commission-corruption-investigation-docuseries-coming-to-crave/
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/10/21 02:19 PM

(I've deleted my original post that was here)
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/11/21 12:31 AM

@felixseguin’s tweet (7:17 pm EST tonight)

Un ex-associé de Vito Rizzuto, Serafino Oliverio a été pris pour cible cet après-midi dans Rivières-des-Prairies. Atteint à une cheville et à un bras, sa vie n’est pas en danger. Il a toujours été considéré comme un « indépendant ». C’est quand même une nouvelle importante….

https://twitter.com/felixseguin/status/1458589609990971398?s=21
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/11/21 01:33 AM

^^^^
La victime est le patriarche d’un clan de la mafia

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-le-patriarche-d-un-clan-de-la-mafia.php
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/11/21 01:36 AM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-le-patriarche-d-un-clan-de-la-mafia.php

The victim is the patriarch of a mafia clan

The 69-year-old man injured in an attempted murder Wednesday afternoon in Montreal's Rivière-des-Prairies neighborhood is Serafino Oliverio, aka Sergio Lopez.

The City of Montreal Police Department has let it be known that the life of the 60-year-old, who was allegedly injured in the legs, is out of danger. He is currently lying in hospital, surrounded by relatives.
A call was made to 911 around 4:30 p.m. for gunshots heard on Boulevard Gouin Est, near Avenue Paul-Dufault. Upon their arrival at the scene, the police located "several cartridge cases" as well as a bullet impact on one of the vehicles parked on Boulevard Gouin Est, the SPVM said.
A man then presented to a hospital with gunshot wounds to his upper body.
Investigators and forensic identification technicians were dispatched to analyze the scene. A perimeter has been set up on the premises.
Serafino Oliverio is considered by the police to be the leader of a Montreal mafia clan with a strong presence in north Montreal, where its members own several bars and other businesses.

The Lopez-Oliverio clan has always conducted its affairs discreetly before the spotlight of the Sûreté du Québec investigators was shone on it during the Magot-Mastiff investigation, between 2013 and 2015.


Three brothers, Franco, Giuseppe and Pasquale Lopez, considered to be the nephews of Serafino Oliverio, have been accused of supplying cocaine to a trafficker in the Hochelaga-Maisonneuve neighborhood when he was out of stock during the investigation. But they later benefited from a stay of proceedings.
Serafino Oliverio does not have a criminal record.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/11/21 05:40 AM

^^^^
Montreal police investigating shooting of Mob boss in R.D.P.: reports

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...ng-shooting-of-mob-boss-in-r-d-p-reports
Posted By: LuanKuci

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/11/21 05:25 PM

Are the Oliverio-Lopez Calabrian?
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/11/21 10:15 PM

Originally Posted by LuanKuci
Are the Oliverio-Lopez Calabrian?


I did see the surname in 'ndrangheta investigations, like convicted boss Giuseppe Oliverio, boss of the locale Mariano Comense in the province of Como, northern Italy.
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/12/21 12:01 AM

no idea if this cell is calabrian or not nor should that matter.
i am in no way trying to start anything unlike whatever has been transpiring on this site today but the sicilian v. calabrian thing is overblown.
there are some calabrians in MTL there r some sicilians both operating all over the place with a variety of criminal partners.
as most media has reported there appeared to be a "truce" between warring factions.

with that being said 2 groups in the R.D.P/mtl north area are fighting over territory.
the barberio-pizzi cell being one.
the new intell which is always good is that the oliviero-lopez cell leader is serafino oliviero.
his 3 nephews franco,giuseppe and pasquale operate under him as wholesale cocaine distributors in the mtl north area.
all 4 of these men are currently out on the street.

how any of this connects to the murder of piero arena i am still not sure.
in both areas there has also been ongoing feuds with the local street gangs some of which are allied with the blues some with reds some with the mafia and some with the HA.
all around making for a confusing situation.

again i don't mean to toss aside your question.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/12/21 12:48 AM

Originally Posted by antimafia
^^^^
Montreal police investigating shooting of Mob boss in R.D.P.: reports

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...ng-shooting-of-mob-boss-in-r-d-p-reports


Un mafieux survit à une pluie de balles. Serafino Oliverio a été attaqué près de chez lui à Montréal

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2021/11/10/tentative-de-meurtre-a-riviere-des-prairies
Posted By: housepainter

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/12/21 01:36 AM

Gotta wonder if it's a reply to the hit on Barberio.
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/12/21 01:12 PM

The attempt coincidentally was on the anniversary of Nick Sr being murdered 11 yrs ago. Probably unrelated.

I think a possible scenario could be remnants of the scoppa bros old cells continuing there drug trafficking in the r.d.p. MTL north area.
The scoppas had worked with Arsene mompoint now murdered.
Mompoint was a strong leader opposed to the Woolley aligned set of gangs.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/30/21 08:44 PM

Quebec Court of Appeal upholds excluding evidence in Leonardo Rizzuto case
In 2019, Quebec Court Judge Julie Riendeau ruled a search warrant used to search Rizzuto's home in Laval was illegal.
https://montrealgazette.com/news/qu...luding-evidence-in-leonardo-rizzuto-case

Crime organisé: l'acquittement de Leonardo Rizzuto confirmé
https://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2021/11/30/crime-organise-lacquittement-de-leonardo-rizzuto-confirme-1
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/01/21 03:20 AM

^^^^
La Cour d’appel confirme l’acquittement de Leonardo Rizzuto

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...e-l-acquittement-de-leonardo-rizzuto.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/01/21 05:23 PM

La poursuite demande 15 ans de pénitencier pour Marie-Josée Viau

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...de-penitencier-pour-marie-josee-viau.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/01/21 07:02 PM

^^^^
Daniel Renaud has updated his article.

Link below is to Paul Cherry’s article.

Montreal Mafia case: Viau robbed us of chance to mourn, Falduto family says

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...s-of-chance-to-mourn-falduto-family-says
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/02/21 02:35 PM

Sur les traces de Salvatore Scoppa jusqu’à son arrestation

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...atore-scoppa-jusqu-a-son-arrestation.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/19/21 05:14 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Link below is to a short article by Claude Poirier, who is most well known in Quebec for his work as a hostage negotiator.

Il n’y a plus de code d’honneur dans le milieu criminel

https://www.lecourrierdusud.ca/opin...e-code-dhonneur-dans-le-milieu-criminel/


For the journalist interviewing him, Claude Poirier confirms that one of his neighbours growing up was Frank Cotroni.

«Autant j’ai réussi dans ma carrière, autant j’ai été lamentable dans ma vie familiale»

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...jai-ete-lamentable-dans-ma-vie-familiale
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/27/21 04:41 PM

La nouvelle normalité

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...se-montrealais/la-nouvelle-normalite.php
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/28/21 06:57 PM

another interesting article out of montreal.
shows again the prominence of pizzi,barberio and crivello operating on the street w/ robert and plouffe from the MTL HA.
also the general continuing alliance b/ cells of the mtl mafia and members of just the mtl chapter and no other chapters.

wonder who the lebanese and greek groups are that are referenced?
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/02/22 05:21 AM

Daniel Renaud of Le Press offers a view of the Montreal underworld.

The price of a kilo of cocaine was around $45k before the pandemic, and peaked at nearly $80k at the height of the health crisis. The price is now said to be around $36k. Relations "have been close" for two years between the Hells Angels and the Mafia. Influential members meet regularly, like a party Dec 10 at the Café Bellerose in Laval.

Hells Angels Martin Robert and Stéphane Plouffe are the two heavyweights in Montreal. Robert is considered the most influential Hells Angel in Quebec. Ontario Hells Angel Rob Barletta, well known to be involved in sports betting, now wears the colors of the Montreal section. Cops say that gang leader Gregory Woolley has returned to the Montreal Chapter's Hells Angels fold. The mafia is unstable and still has no leader. The Sicilian clan, the former Rizzuto clan, is still considered the strongest, but its influence is in steady decline. Street gangsters never disappeared, what is new, cops say, is that their members are younger and have more guns. While at one time the conflicts opposed the Reds and the Blues, today there are quarrels between members of groups of the same allegiance.
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/03/22 12:19 PM

Who is Crivello? And to me, it looks like Miriarchi clearly runs his own thing....
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/03/22 02:32 PM

erasmo crivello has been alleged to be working w/ marco pizzi since there dual arrest in proj clemenza 3 2016.
its possible the 2 worked together going back to 2013 under tonino callochia in cocaine trafficking.
there appears to be 2 sides of crivello family in mtl one of which has no mafia links.

i agree that mirarchi runs his own cell...i am also coming around to the theory that the mafia in mtl has become a lateral structure not a classic top down admin.
mirarchi had an almost direct link in 2011 to cocaine coming from the sinaloa cartel out of LA. that was a long time ago now i know but mirarchi has strong connections and clearly commands respect in the milieu.
Posted By: mike68

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/03/22 05:07 PM

Why was Callochia killed? Was it the Rizzuto's?
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/03/22 06:02 PM

One theory was that callochia lied about delivery of large load of cocaine.
He was supposed to split with rizzutos.
Callochia historically had been aligned with old cotroni faction.
Posted By: chin_gigante

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/03/22 11:06 PM

According to Andrew Scoppa, the Callocchia murder was ordered by Steve Sollecito and carried out by Salvatore Scoppa and a gang member.

Prior to this, Callocchia had killed Joe Di Maulo with Vito Rizzuto's permission. Callocchia and Sollecito then pressured Rizzuto for permission to have Roger Valiquette killed because they wanted control of the Book. Valiquette had been previously been encouraged by Sollecito and Callocchia to take the Book from the jailed Lorenzo Giordano. Scoppa describes Sollecito, Callocchia, and Valiquette at that time as the three men who were calling the shots for Rizzuto and pressuring him to have certain people killed (like Gaétan Gosselin and Vincenzo Scuderi). They used their victims' affiliations with the likes of Raynald Desjardins and Giuseppe De Vito as excuses to have them killed, but really the murders were motivated by a desire to take over their loan sharking operations. Sollecito and Callocchia turned on Valiquette when he began pressuring them to repay money he had loaned out to them (several hundred thousand dollars each).
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/04/22 12:12 AM

does that version of events come from le source? if so i will trust the scoppa info.
the scoppa book will be the first credible street level info at the center of this 15 year war in MTL.

the switching of alliances/factions and different cells working together then weeks,months or years later murdering each other has become one of the least understood conflicts in the history of the mafia.
Posted By: DillyDolly

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/04/22 12:52 AM

Vito you should write a book too you know. I'd work on that grammar though.
Posted By: mike68

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/04/22 03:35 AM

Originally Posted by VitoCahill
does that version of events come from le source? if so i will trust the scoppa info.
the scoppa book will be the first credible street level info at the center of this 15 year war in MTL.

the switching of alliances/factions and different cells working together then weeks,months or years later murdering each other has become one of the least understood conflicts in the history of the mafia.



With friends like that, who needs enemies? It's neverending up there.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/04/22 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by CabriniGreen
Who is Crivello? And to me, it looks like Miriarchi clearly runs his own thing....


He is said to be independent, but the hitman/informant testified and described Mirarchi as being “part of the 'Ndrangheta.”
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/04/22 02:55 PM

which goes to my next question and one that has remained unanswered on this thread since it began 114 pages ago...
what 'ndrangheta locale,'ndrine or group does mirarchi belong to.
if we can all agree that he is 'ndrangheta and that he is a powerful member...who does he report to?

does mirarchi operate independent of all other 'ndrangheta groups in QC and ON.?possibly
is mirarchi a cell leader for a more powerful 'ndrine located in toronto...commisso,ursino,figliomeni et al?
or is mirarchi a cell leader for a yet unknown 'ndrine operating inside QC/MTL?

info on his father is hard to find and there doesnt appear to be any consensus on antonios status or affiliation inside the 'ndrangheta if he had any at all.

since vittorios name appeared in MTL mafia circles there has long been refs to the 'ndrangheta and now 10+ years later the mystery abounds.
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/04/22 09:40 PM

https://www.gangsterismout.com/2017/12/vittorio-mirarchi-future-godfather.html?m=1
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/04/22 09:40 PM

Talks about his ties with Calabria
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/04/22 10:52 PM

Antonio Mirarchi was very close to the hells angels I believe he was from Catanzaro.
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/05/22 12:54 AM

page 33 in business or blood by antonio nicaso and peter edwards says the same,catanzaro.
isca sullo ionio is the actual place they put his lineage from.

could find no info on any 'ndrangheta from that area in ON/QC.
Posted By: DillyDolly

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/05/22 01:18 AM

Anyone who thinks he has no Ndrangheta ties, I have some oceanfront property in Arizona to sell you.
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/05/22 07:49 AM

The latest article seems to....

1. Confirms the shareholder structure of the sportsbook network that was in The Source. Also looks like Sollecito was indeed forced to cede exclusive control.

2. Looks like not even Whooley can control the gangs right now. If hes back with the Hells, it kinda explains Steve Sauce losing control of the streets. He depended on Wholley for street stuff...


3. To me, it looks like the Mexicans took over the coke.... bad for the Italians... good for the Hells.... it seems like it currently takes the collective strength of the underworld to duplicate the Mexicans capabilities, as far as sourcing the coke, importing, getting it through the ports, wholesaling, retailing, ect.... There isnt one group strong enough to dominate in all aspects, only a particular niche.
The Italians used to control the source, and shared control of the ports, now it seems the Mexicans are the main importers, with some independents, but I doubt they longterm can compete with the volumes Mexicans can move. The Hells dominate wholesaling/ retailing.



You gotta wonder who's supplying the kids in the gangs. I bet money it's the Mexicans, who rather deal with youngsters than seasoned veterans.
Whooleys strength was that he was close to Italians, who were close to the supply. But he himself said this caused jealousy. If the Mexicans are supplying the new generation, Whooley has no leverage. He shoulda made his own connection to the Mexicans, hes gonna play second fiddle to Bikers and Mobsters forever.....He coulda leveled up the Syndicate.....


4. Time actually seems ripe for a guy like Violi to make a move into Montreal. If he still has his Colombian contacts, he could make some inroads in Quebec maybe.
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/05/22 07:33 PM

I don't think Violi wants the headache that comes with Montreal, he has lots here in GTA to make money off of with less hassles.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/13/22 05:35 PM

Un homme accusé de meurtre au premier degré

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...e-accuse-de-meurtre-au-premier-degre.php
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/13/22 09:29 PM

this investigation has been ongoing since 2020 i believe.
running those wonderful phone scams that everyone enjoys so much.

francesco sollecito again is mentioned as possibly being behind this he is the brother of montreal mafia leader stefano sollecito.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/25/22 09:23 PM

Trial begins for man accused of murdering two Montreal Mafia leaders

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...f-trial-of-man-accused-of-two-mafia-hits
Posted By: LuanKuci

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/25/22 10:01 PM

^ ^ ^
Quote
According to Godbout, Scarfo was recorded saying he was paid $17,500 for killing Giordano, less than what he was promised, and $5,000 for his role in Sollecito’s murder. The prosecutor added that the accused was also recorded telling the informant he is a member of the ‘Ndrangheta, a Mafia-type organization.

Godbout said Giordano and Sollecito were killed as part of a conflict between Calabrian and Sicilian clans within the Montreal Mafia.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/25/22 10:11 PM

Interesting so according to the informant both Mirarchi and Scarfo are 'ndranghetisti.
Posted By: DillyDolly

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/26/22 12:31 AM

This is how things have changed, back in the day members weren't paid for hits, they were just ordered to kill. They didn't do it for money, but out of a sense of duty. Only outsiders or associates were paid.
Posted By: DillyDolly

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/26/22 12:39 AM

Nicky Scarfo was Calabrian as well, I mean his parents were from Naples and Calabria.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/26/22 04:27 AM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Trial begins for man accused of murdering two Montreal Mafia leaders

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...f-trial-of-man-accused-of-two-mafia-hits


« La preuve la plus percutante provient de l’accusé lui-même »

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...utante-provient-de-l-accuse-lui-meme.php


Le procès d'un mafieux s'ouvre à Montréal

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2022/01/25/le-proces-dun-mafieux-souvre-a-montreal
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/26/22 06:35 AM

^^^^
Mafia leader's girlfriend was covered in blood after he was shot, murder trial witnesses say

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...f-trial-of-man-accused-of-two-mafia-hits
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/26/22 12:30 PM

^^^^
Procès d'un mafieux: «C’était un feu d’artifice et après, c’était la mort»

https://www.journaldequebec.com/2022/01/25/cetait-un-feu-dartifice-et-apres-cetait-la-mort
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/26/22 06:29 PM

Originally Posted by DillyDolly
This is how things have changed, back in the day members weren't paid for hits, they were just ordered to kill. They didn't do it for money, but out of a sense of duty. Only outsiders or associates were paid.


Scarfo only got $17,500 and $5,000 for two murders just enough to cover the costs of the hits.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/26/22 06:36 PM

Originally Posted by DillyDolly
Nicky Scarfo was Calabrian as well, I mean his parents were from Naples and Calabria.


Little Nicky had uncles in NYC affiliated with the Siderno Group.
Until 1980, the head of the Group was Michele (Mike) Racco. He maintained close contacts with the Luppino crime family in Hamilton, Ontario and with the Cotroni crime family in Montreal.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/27/22 03:14 AM

Originally Posted by antimafia
^^^^
Mafia leader's girlfriend was covered in blood after he was shot, murder trial witnesses say

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...f-trial-of-man-accused-of-two-mafia-hits


Le mafieux Lorenzo Giordano a été tiré à bout portant

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...o-giordano-a-ete-tire-a-bout-portant.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/28/22 02:33 PM

« Tu n’es pas Dieu, tu es un lâche »

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...ilva/tu-n-es-pas-dieu-tu-es-un-lache.php
Posted By: mike68

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/28/22 05:57 PM

Why was the Vinci kid murdered? It seems that he had no connection to organized crime?
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/28/22 10:08 PM

Le tueur de Rocco Sollecito portait des vêtements et un casque de moto

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...t-des-vetements-et-un-casque-de-moto.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/29/22 02:49 AM

Witness in murder trial describes Rocco Sollecito's final moments

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...describes-rocco-sollecitos-final-moments
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/29/22 02:25 PM

i guess we will find out at trial of frederick silva.
silva was a hitman for hire not working for any one group, possible the vinci hit was unrelated to OC.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/29/22 03:33 PM

Meurtre du mafieux Rocco Sollecito: «Il était criblé de balles»

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...co-sollecito---il-etait-crible-de-balles
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/30/22 05:47 AM

Les 35 témoins vedettes de la commission Charbonneau
10 ANS APRÈS, QUE SONT-ILS DEVENUS?

https://www.journaldequebec.com/202...les-temoins-de-la-commission-charbonneau
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/07/22 01:22 AM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/chroniques/2022-02-06/alessandro-vinci-n-etait-pas-un-bandit.php

Alessandro Vinci was not a bandit

It was late at night on October 11, 2018, and Vincenzo Vinci's phone rang. It must have been 11:15 p.m. Her mother's number, Sara, was on the display. Weird, thought Vincenzo: my mother never calls at this time, she's already in bed.

He has answered.
And it was her father, Tony, who was on the phone.
This was really, really weird: Sara and Tony had been separated for a long time, since 1997.
Vincenzo's father started talking:
“Yeah, hello…”
Tony hadn't finished the word "hello" that Vincenzo heard his mother, he heard his mother's wailing. A sound that he still struggles to describe, three years later, a sound that still haunts him.
"Something happened to your brother Alex," Tony finally told his eldest son.
- "Something" ?

- He left.
- Left ?
- Left. »
* * *
Alessandro Vinci was born on November 28, 1986. Gifted at school, but not interested in school. Interested in business, in cars. His father had a garage where he sold used cars, Vinci Automobiles, on Lévesque Boulevard in Laval.
Vinci's three sons, Vincenzo, Elvio and Alessandro, worked there, as well as in another car business operated by Tony.
Alex's interpersonal skills, charisma and ingenuity have made him a gifted salesperson. He sold – and bought – cars, while dad Tony repaired them, in the workshop, on Lévesque Boulevard. A thunderous tandem.

Tony came to Canada from Italy with $100 and his talent as a mechanic in 1971. The money from the marriage to Sara allowed him to buy a Petrofina garage.
Alessandro was the youngest of Tony and Sara's three sons. A pillar of the family, who called her 90-year-old grandmother twice a day, who went to lunch with her at her residence a few times a week. Alex was also Elvio's protector. Elvio was born with a mild intellectual disability. Alex always kept him under his wing; where Alex went, Elvio went.
For Elvio and Vincenzo, Alex was more than a brother: “He was, says Vincenzo, our best friend. »

And on October 11, 2018 at 8:36 p.m. and 24 seconds – we know this thanks to a surveillance camera – a man entered Vinci Automobiles and found Alex there, who was alone, on the phone, in the office.
The stranger shot him 15 times.
The surveillance camera shows him fleeing the scene, 20 seconds later.
* * *
Vincenzo, that evening, took the car, he went north up Papineau and he crossed the bridge to go to his mother's.
It was unreal: Alex, dead. Impossible. Vincenzo was in a sort of denial. On the way to his mother's house, he saw a sea of ??flashing lights in the distance in front of the family business.

It was stronger than him: he stopped, he got out of the car and he notified a policeman who immediately banned him from the perimeter.
“But he is my brother, pleaded Vincenzo …
- It's your brother ? replied the policeman.
- Yes. »
The agent lifted the yellow blindfold, invited Vincenzo to follow him to meet the investigators.
Through the garage windows, Vincenzo saw a blanket on the floor inside, in front of the desk. He later found out that this blanket was on his little brother's body.
Vincenzo met an investigator, who promised to talk to him later, but told him that for now he had to leave the scene of the crime.
Vincenzo got back in the car to go find his parents, at his mother's. The scene still tenses his face: “My father was destroyed. My mother... My mother was wailing. She couldn't say anything, she could hardly breathe. All she could do was…those moans. »
Vincenzo spent the night sitting next to his mother on the couch. Saying nothing, feeling useless like he had never felt useless.

Around 5 a.m., Vincenzo's phone began to vibrate. Worried text messages from relatives were beginning to reach him. He understood that Alex's murder had been publicized.

At 6 a.m., Sara, her mother, was finally able to speak words, between her sobs.
She said, “They killed my baby. »

Vincenzo read the article in La Presse recounting the murder of his brother on October 12, 2018, the next day.
He read words that would be devastating in his life, in the life of his family, words that added to the drama that the Vincis lived, and still live.
I quote the article: “Laval police officers began the investigation before transferring the file to their colleagues at the Crimes Against Persons Division of the Sûreté du Québec, presumably because the murder could be linked to organized crime. »
The article was signed by my colleague Daniel Renaud, who has covered criminal cases for La Presse since 2012. Daniel has written three books on organized crime. He is a seasoned, rigorous, respected journalist.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/07/22 01:23 AM

What Daniel wrote was true: the murder bore the signature of organized crime.
Daniel did not write that Vincenzo Vinci was "linked to organized crime". But the name “Vinci” appeared in an article which evoked a “link” described as “likely” with “organized crime”.
In the hours that followed, Tony Vinci's bank severed its business ties with him, when it wanted to increase its credit lines the previous month.
No other bank wanted to do business with Tony afterwards; the La Presse article was cited to justify the refusals. Only one accepted, at almost usurious interest rates, according to Vincenzo.

The Directorate General for Compensation for Victims of Crime (IVAC) refused to compensate the Vinci, afterwards: we do not compensate if there is a link with organized crime.
The CNESST refused to treat Alex's death as a death in the workplace: there is no compensation if there is a link with organized crime.
During our interview, Vincenzo looks at me: “My brother was not linked to organized crime. »

Vincenzo is telling the truth. His brother was not a bandit, Alex was not "linked" to organized crime.

To continue…

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/chroniques/2022-02-06/alessandro-vinci-n-etait-pas-un-bandit.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/07/22 05:13 AM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Les 35 témoins vedettes de la commission Charbonneau
10 ANS APRÈS, QUE SONT-ILS DEVENUS?

https://www.journaldequebec.com/202...les-temoins-de-la-commission-charbonneau


Ép 16. La Commission Charbonneau, dix ans plus tard

https://www.qub.ca/tvaplus/tva/j-e/...charbonneau-dix-ans-plus-tard-1065104294
Posted By: mike68

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/07/22 05:03 PM

Quote
"Then he had these words, which restored the facts: "Based on the evidence we have, the only motive for the murder of Alessandro Vinci is reprisals following his collaboration with the Terrebonne police. in a fraudulent acquisition of a vehicle. »

Alex had provided police in 2015 with an incriminating statement against a relative of Silva, in a fraud case involving a vehicle Alex had found for the woman.

Silva and this woman had been in the sights of the police, for a network of vehicle theft by fraud.

There was never a trial.

The theory among investigators is that Frédérick Silva executed Alex on October 11, 2018, because of his statement to the Terrebonne police.

This is the only documented link between Silva and Vinci."


So there you have it. This piece of absolute scum murdered an innocent civilian and destroyed a family. Disgusting. May he rot in hell.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/08/22 09:27 PM

Man accused of killing Montreal Mafia leaders said he wanted 'power' after slayings

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...ders-said-he-wanted-power-after-slayings


Procès de Dominico Scarfo
Les tueurs de Rocco Sollecito l’ont attendu durant une heure

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...ecito-l-ont-attendu-durant-une-heure.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/09/22 03:32 AM

^^^^
Procès de Dominico Scarfo
« J’aime apparaître derrière la personne »

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...aime-apparaitre-derriere-la-personne.php
Posted By: DillyDolly

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/09/22 04:49 AM

mike68, I don't care if he was a civilian, anyone who stands with the wicked State and its law enforcement are rats and scum, so may he rot in hell.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/09/22 05:02 AM

Originally Posted by DillyDolly
mike68, I don't care if he was a civilian, anyone who stands with the wicked State and its law enforcement are rats and scum, so may he rot in hell.


You’re saying that a civilian who talked to the police and had nothing to do with the criminal world, and got killed is a rat and a scum ?
Posted By: DillyDolly

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/09/22 05:09 AM

Yes, mind your own business. No snitching.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/09/22 05:16 AM

So you got a buisness, and you’re an honest guy.
And someone come to you’re buisness and rob you, ou do a scam… you aint suppose to talk to the police….
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/10/22 12:26 PM

Montreal Mafia murder trial: Secret recordings paint picture of deadly scene

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...recordings-paint-picture-of-deadly-scene
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/10/22 12:57 PM

La victime aurait eu des liens avec le crime organisé

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-eu-des-liens-avec-le-crime-organise.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/10/22 01:34 PM

^^^^
Man with links to Mafia shot to death in the garage of a LaSalle home

https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/man-shot-to-death-in-the-garage-of-a-lasalle-home
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/10/22 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
^^^^
Man with links to Mafia shot to death in the garage of a LaSalle home

https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/man-shot-to-death-in-the-garage-of-a-lasalle-home


Wow I thought the Macris were part of the Arcadi group.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/10/22 01:52 PM

Une relation mafieuse dans la mire du fisc pour un fournisseur de la Grande roue

https://www.journaldequebec.com/2022/02/10/une-relation-mafieuse-dans-la-mire-du-fisc
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/10/22 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
^^^^
Man with links to Mafia shot to death in the garage of a LaSalle home

https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/man-shot-to-death-in-the-garage-of-a-lasalle-home


Lié à la mafia, il est abattu dans son garage

https://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2022/02/09/lie-a-la-mafia-montrealaise-il-est-abattu-dans-son-garage


Retrouvé dans le garage: un homme lié à la mafia assassiné

https://www.985fm.ca/nouvelles/show...garage-un-homme-lie-a-la-mafia-assassine
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/11/22 10:27 AM

According to police sources, the Macri brothers had ties to Pietro D’Adamo.
D'Adamo, a cocaine importer from the Rizzuto clan caught in Operation Coliseum, was recently warned by the police as he went to visit Stefano Sollecito.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/12/22 10:58 AM

Mafia and illegal betting
According to our information, Macri, who seems to have been the target of a settling of accounts, had certain links with members of the Italian mafia of the Rizzuto clan and could have been involved in the illegal bet.

He was also close to Donald Matticks, of the west end gang, we are told. The two were often seen together at the Brasserie des Rapides, owned by Domenico Macri.

He had no criminal history.

"He went under the radar because he stood apart," said a police source.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/13/22 12:45 AM

Originally Posted by antimafia
[snip]

Link below is to Paul Cherry’s article.

Montreal Mafia case: Viau robbed us of chance to mourn, Falduto family says

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...s-of-chance-to-mourn-falduto-family-says


No parole for 12 years for woman sentenced in murder of Falduto brothers

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...-sentenced-in-murder-of-falduto-brothers
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/15/22 06:39 AM

Procès de Dominico Scarfo | L’accusé au cœur d’un piège visant à le faire parler

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-d-un-piege-visant-a-le-faire-parler.php


Montreal Mafia murder trial put on pause following translation issues

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...ut-on-pause-following-translation-issues
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/17/22 11:28 PM

Procès de Dominico Scarfo | « Mon frère voulait tuer tout le monde »

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...mon-frere-voulait-tuer-tout-le-monde.php


'We showed your brother a lot of loyalty,' accused told Mafia leader Scoppa
Andrea (Andrew) Scoppa said he had nothing to do with the war his brother Salvatore had waged, in a recording made by an informant four months after Salvatore's death in 2019.

https://montrealgazette.com/news/we...loyalty-accused-told-mafia-leader-scoppa
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/18/22 05:38 PM

Tentative de meurtre d'un influent mafioso : le présumé tueur à gages filmé en plein acte à Laval

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2022/02/18/tueur-filme-en-plein-acte
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/18/22 06:50 PM

Montreal Mafia murder trial: Accused was warned his life was in danger

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...ccused-was-warned-his-life-was-in-danger
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/18/22 08:28 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Un trafiquant voulait être libéré malgré des menaces sur sa vie

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...libere-malgre-des-menaces-sur-sa-vie.php


Sergio Piccirilli peut aller en maison de transition

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...i-peut-aller-en-maison-de-transition.php
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/19/22 05:08 AM

Giordano #2? Do we believe that? I’ve been away not reading like I used to so I’m behind a little
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/19/22 08:10 AM

Originally Posted by dixiemafia
Giordano #2? Do we believe that? I’ve been away not reading like I used to so I’m behind a little



At that point in time, what do you think the hierarchy was?
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/21/22 04:34 PM

I don't know, that's why I'm asking lol
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/22/22 02:35 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Originally Posted by antimafia
^^^^
Montreal police investigating shooting of Mob boss in R.D.P.: reports

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...ng-shooting-of-mob-boss-in-r-d-p-reports


Un mafieux survit à une pluie de balles. Serafino Oliverio a été attaqué près de chez lui à Montréal

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2021/11/10/tentative-de-meurtre-a-riviere-des-prairies


Guichets de cryptomonnaie
Le propriétaire d’Instacoin en lien avec un chef mafieux

https://www.lapresse.ca/affaires/en...stacoin-en-lien-avec-un-chef-mafieux.php
Posted By: mike68

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/22/22 05:42 PM

So Barberio is a street boss for the Rizzutos, Oliverio is member of the 'old guard' according to this article. Who is shooting them? Who shot Macri? What the hell is going on up there? Things continue to seem very fluid up there.
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/22/22 10:32 PM

in MTL its possible these 2 cells barberio and oliverio are working together in the montreal north/R.D.P. area.
its possible they are fighting each other???

in the mafia landscape of montreal you r right to be confused. you only have to look at the current trial of dominic scarfo for the 2015/2016 murders of members of the rizzuto faction. the justice system moves slooooooowly up north. also until the revelations from andrea scoppa in la source there has been a complete lack of reliable info from members/associates.

as far as davide barberio being a street boss i have mentioned this before. barberio operates in a cell with marco pizzi in criminal affairs in montreal north,east and R.D.P.
barberio is not the overall street boss for the entire montreal mafia as say michael ragusa is for the genovese.
it is said that barberio has good contacts in other OC groups...street gangs,HA etc. because of his ability to work with other groups he has been given this title by the media.
in days past the mafia in MTL operated with a hierarchal admin similar to other mafia families but it has become clear in the last couple years that no admin exists anymore.
several different cells now operate with there own admin/structure and work with other mafia/OC groups sometimes for only brief periods of time.

as far as whom is behind the hit on domenico macri only time will tell.
but odds are it is not the same group behind the attempts on barberio and oliverio. i say this mostly for the reasons i have mentioned above.
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/22/22 10:41 PM

THE RIZZUTO/SOLLECITO FACTION
Nov.20 2015-May.27 2016
-this period covers the time after the project mastiff/magot arrests and the murder of ROCCO SOLLECITO.

BOSS
ROCCO SOLLECITO
-the most senior member of the old group of 6 that once ran the RIZZUTO CRIME FAMILY still on the street.
-SOLLECITO was a longtime loyal member of VITO RIZZUTO'S inner circle.

rizzuto/spagnolo cell
leader
leonardo rizzuto-imprisoned related to nov 2015 arrest.
vincenzo spagnolo

sollecito cell
leader
stefano sollecito-imprisoned related to nov 2015 arrest.
vito salvaggio

pizzi cell
leader
marco pizzi

giordano cell
leader
lorenzo giordano

-only showed leaders for this chart to give an idea of admin/structure of this faction.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/23/22 12:37 AM

Le mafioso Andrew Scoppa n’y a vu que du feu

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...so-andrew-scoppa-n-y-a-vu-que-du-feu.php


Mob leader Andrew Scoppa recorded while speculating about his brother's murder

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...le-speculating-about-his-brothers-murder
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/23/22 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Originally Posted by antimafia
Un trafiquant voulait être libéré malgré des menaces sur sa vie

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...libere-malgre-des-menaces-sur-sa-vie.php


Sergio Piccirilli peut aller en maison de transition

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...i-peut-aller-en-maison-de-transition.php


Drug trafficker with close ties to Hells Angels gets day parole

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...ose-ties-to-hells-angels-gets-day-parole
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/24/22 02:41 AM


Hitman Frédérick Silva gets fourth life sentence for attempted murder

https://montrealgazette.com/news/hitman-silva-sentenced-for-series-of-crimes


Perpétuité sans libération conditionnelle avant 25 ans pour Frédérick Silva

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...le-avant-25-ans-pour-frederick-silva.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/25/22 08:50 PM

Mafia murder trial: Key witness finally testifies after refusing to answer questions

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...urder-trial-breaks-down-on-witness-stand
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/28/22 09:29 PM

La taupe de la police incrimine l’accusé durant un témoignage houleux

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-accuse-durant-un-temoignage-houleux.php
Posted By: Liggio

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/28/22 09:50 PM

In plain English!
Posted By: Ben54

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/01/22 01:20 PM

Originally Posted by Liggio
In plain English!


They speak French in Montreal you knuckledragger. Use Google translate
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/03/22 03:50 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia


Jeff Joubens Theus subira un nouveau procès

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...ubens-theus-subira-un-nouveau-proces.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/03/22 04:07 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Originally Posted by antimafia
Originally Posted by antimafia
^^^^
Montreal police investigating shooting of Mob boss in R.D.P.: reports

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...ng-shooting-of-mob-boss-in-r-d-p-reports


Un mafieux survit à une pluie de balles. Serafino Oliverio a été attaqué près de chez lui à Montréal

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2021/11/10/tentative-de-meurtre-a-riviere-des-prairies


Guichets de cryptomonnaie
Le propriétaire d’Instacoin en lien avec un chef mafieux

https://www.lapresse.ca/affaires/en...stacoin-en-lien-avec-un-chef-mafieux.php


L’actionnaire fondateur d’Instacoin démissionne

https://www.lapresse.ca/affaires/20...re-fondateur-d-instacoin-demissionne.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/08/22 02:38 AM

Les tueurs surveillaient Rocco Sollecito depuis deux semaines

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...rocco-sollecito-depuis-deux-semaines.php


Informant tells jury he was willing to kill more than one member of the Sollecito family

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...-than-one-member-of-the-sollecito-family
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/10/22 04:01 AM

Hit list kept getting longer, informant tells Montreal Mafia murder trial

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...fence-in-his-montreal-mafia-murder-trial


L’accusé ne présentera pas de défense

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-accuse-ne-presentera-pas-de-defense.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/11/22 01:27 AM

Originally Posted by VitoCahill
in MTL its possible these 2 cells barberio and oliverio are working together in the montreal north/R.D.P. area.
its possible they are fighting each other???

in the mafia landscape of montreal you r right to be confused. you only have to look at the current trial of dominic scarfo for the 2015/2016 murders of members of the rizzuto faction. the justice system moves slooooooowly up north. also until the revelations from andrea scoppa in la source there has been a complete lack of reliable info from members/associates.

as far as davide barberio being a street boss i have mentioned this before. barberio operates in a cell with marco pizzi in criminal affairs in montreal north,east and R.D.P.
barberio is not the overall street boss for the entire montreal mafia as say michael ragusa is for the genovese.
it is said that barberio has good contacts in other OC groups...street gangs,HA etc. because of his ability to work with other groups he has been given this title by the media.
in days past the mafia in MTL operated with a hierarchal admin similar to other mafia families but it has become clear in the last couple years that no admin exists anymore.
several different cells now operate with there own admin/structure and work with other mafia/OC groups sometimes for only brief periods of time.

as far as whom is behind the hit on domenico macri only time will tell.
but odds are it is not the same group behind the attempts on barberio and oliverio. i say this mostly for the reasons i have mentioned above.


Dominic Macri, hunky entrepreneur with no criminal record gunned down in LaSalle -- who pulled the trigger?

http://coolopolis.blogspot.com/2022/03/dominic-macri-hunky-entrepreneur-with.html
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/16/22 09:54 PM

« C’est le procès de M. Scarfo, pas celui de l’agent civil »

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-m-scarfo-pas-celui-de-l-agent-civil.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/18/22 01:12 AM

Malgré l’opposition de la police, un homme d’affaires peut acheter un bistrot

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...e-d-affaires-peut-acheter-un-bistrot.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/18/22 01:05 PM

‘Ndranghetisti per caso: i free-riders canadesi sfidano Cosa nostra

https://icalabresi.it/rubriche/rizzuto-ndrangheta-free-riders-sfida-cosa-nostra-canada/
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/18/22 03:38 PM

Montreal Mafia murder trial: Defence says informant was an unreliable witness

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...says-informant-was-an-unreliable-witness
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/18/22 06:58 PM

^^^^
Procès de Dominico Scarfo | La taupe de la police a un agenda caché contre l’accusé plaide la défense

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...he-contre-l-accuse-plaide-la-defense.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/24/22 01:30 AM

^^^^
Le jury commencera à délibérer jeudi matin

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...y-commencera-a-deliberer-jeudi-matin.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/25/22 04:33 AM

De présumés trafiquants liés aux motards et à la mafia visés

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...lies-aux-motards-et-a-la-mafia-vises.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/31/22 02:59 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia


Procès de Dominico Scarfo | Un juré expulsé parce qu’un proche lui a dit d’envoyer l’accusé en prison

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...i-a-dit-d-envoyer-l-accuse-en-prison.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/04/22 04:51 AM

^^^^
Un deuxième juré libéré en pleines délibérations

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...jure-libere-en-pleines-deliberations.php
Posted By: mike68

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/04/22 04:19 PM

I'm starting to get the impression that this guy may walk. Although in Canada, where murder is still an option, that may not be the best thing for him.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/05/22 03:24 AM

L’ancien resto La Cantina toujours placardé

https://journaldesvoisins.com/lancien-resto-la-cantina-toujours-placarde/
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/06/22 05:05 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
^^^^
Un deuxième juré libéré en pleines délibérations

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...jure-libere-en-pleines-deliberations.php


Procès de Dominico Scarfo | Le juge refuse de libérer un troisième juré

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-refuse-de-liberer-un-troisieme-jure.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/06/22 06:23 PM

^^^^
Dominico Scarfo murder trial almost ends in a mistrial after juror asks to be discharged

https://montrealgazette.com/news/do...strial-after-juror-asks-to-be-discharged
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/11/22 06:50 PM

^^^^
Dominico Scarfo déclaré coupable

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...fia/dominico-scarfo-declare-coupable.php


Dominico Scarfo found guilty of murdering two Montreal Mafia leaders

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...-of-murdering-two-montreal-mafia-leaders


Dominico Scarfo coupable sur toute la ligne :

https://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2022/04...inico-scarfo-coupable-sur-toute-la-ligne
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/19/22 06:41 PM

Victim testifies Nicola Spagnolo stabbed him during argument outside club

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...stabbed-him-during-argument-outside-club


Procès de Nicola Spagnolo | « J’étais convaincu que j’allais mourir »

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-etais-convaincu-que-j-allais-mourir.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/20/22 12:28 PM

Les policiers s’attendent à un printemps chaud!

https://www.985fm.ca/nouvelles/faits-divers/478729/les-policiers-s-attendent-a-un-printemps-chaud
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/20/22 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Victim testifies Nicola Spagnolo stabbed him during argument outside club

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...stabbed-him-during-argument-outside-club


Procès de Nicola Spagnolo | « J’étais convaincu que j’allais mourir »

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-etais-convaincu-que-j-allais-mourir.php


Proche de la mafia accusé de voies de fait graves

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2022/04/19/proche-de-la-mafia-accuse-de-voies-de-fait-graves


Procès de Nicola Spagnolo | La Défense soulève des contradictions dans le témoignage de la victime

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...ons-dans-le-temoignage-de-la-victime.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/21/22 05:46 PM

^^^^
Forcé de témoigner à la cour toute la nuit
https://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2022/04/20/force-de-temoigner-a-la-cour-toute-la-nuit-1

Procès de Nicola Spagnolo | « Il gigotait beaucoup et criait de douleur »
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...gotait-beaucoup-et-criait-de-douleur.php

Old Montreal stabbing victim sparked argument with insult, defence suggests
https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...ed-argument-with-insult-defence-suggests
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/22/22 06:07 AM

^^^^
Agressé au Vieux-Port: II «criait de douleur»

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2022/04/21/agresse-au-vieux-port--ii--criait-de-douleur

(accompanied by a video)
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/22/22 04:56 PM

^^^^
Crown closes its evidence in trial of man accused in Montreal stabbing

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...rial-of-man-accused-in-montreal-stabbing
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/26/22 06:37 PM

Un mafioso influent interdit dans un bar de son propre domaine

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...it-dans-un-bar-de-son-propre-domaine.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/27/22 03:58 AM

^^^^
Alleged Montreal Mafioso not allowed inside bar in Rivière-des-Prairies

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...lowed-inside-bar-in-riviere-des-prairies
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/06/22 02:38 PM

Pas d’arrêt du processus judiciaire contre Marie-Josée Viau

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...s-judiciaire-contre-marie-josee-viau.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/06/22 04:59 PM

Enquête pour meurtre: un policier a fabriqué un faux mandat en utilisant la signature d’une juge à son insu

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...lisant-la-signature-dune-juge-a-son-insu
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/06/22 05:55 PM

Frédérick Silva sera reconnu coupable de meurtre au deuxième degré

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...oupable-de-meurtre-au-deuxieme-degre.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/06/22 09:48 PM

^^^^
Tweet by @PCherryReporter:

Hit man Frédérick Silva pleads no contest to killing of Concordia University student. This allows him to appeal four murder convictions and the attempted murder of Sal Scoppa. Appeal alleges fake warrant used in investigation.
2022-05-06, 5:11 PM

https://twitter.com/pcherryreporter/status/1522685607763398658

Link to article:

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...-killing-of-concordia-university-student
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/07/22 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Enquête pour meurtre: un policier a fabriqué un faux mandat en utilisant la signature d’une juge à son insu

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...lisant-la-signature-dune-juge-a-son-insu


La nouvelle cliente sympathique était… une policière

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...ente-sympathique-etait-une-policiere.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/12/22 02:20 AM

Man who recently pleaded guilty to helping hit man Silva gunned down

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...lty-to-helping-hit-man-silva-gunned-down
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/12/22 12:40 PM

^^^^
« J’ai entendu deux gros bam »

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...nt-michel/j-ai-entendu-deux-gros-bam.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/19/22 06:25 PM

Murdered Montreal Mafia leader's sister says family is devastated by loss https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...sister-says-family-is-devastated-by-loss
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/19/22 09:41 PM

Family may be devasted all they want, Giordano was no angel and his family knew exactly who he was and what the consequences may be, so devasted may be a stretch.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/20/22 01:29 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Murdered Montreal Mafia leader's sister says family is devastated by loss https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...sister-says-family-is-devastated-by-loss


« Ses yeux de glace me convainquent qu’il peut tuer encore »
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-convainquent-qu-il-peut-tuer-encore.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/20/22 08:01 PM

Case against hit man Silva delayed because Montreal cop may be under investigation

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...-montreal-cop-may-be-under-investigation
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/24/22 08:30 PM

Un restaurateur se bat devant la Régie des alcools pour conserver ses permis

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...es-alcools-pour-conserver-ses-permis.php
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/28/22 01:12 AM

https://thecanadian.news/kingpin-gregory-woolley-must-be-on-his-guard/

Kingpin Gregory Woolley must be on his guard

One of Montreal’s most important organized crime leaders, Gregory Woolley, now risks being vigilant, as shots mistakenly rang out at his neighbor’s house and casings were found on the ground near his residence in Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu in the space of three weeks.

• Read also: Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu: A residence targeted twice by mistake

The first incident dates back to the beginning of the month, when neighbors reported to the authorities that they heard an explosion. While inspecting the scene, the authorities discovered a bullet hole on the front of a residence on rue des Trembles.

This is located a stone’s throw from the luxurious home of Woolley and his wife, a former contestant of reality TV loft story.

Then, on Wednesday, a resident of the area discovered casings on the ground, very close to the property of the influential gangster.

Targeted by mistake

After verification, the police of Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu affirmed that the residence affected by the projectile had been targeted by mistake. According to our sources, Gregory Woolley, closely linked to both the Montreal mafia and the Hells Angels, was targeted during the two incidents. Everything indicates that we are trying to send him a message.

Investigators have not yet made any arrests in the case.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/30/22 10:21 AM

The Canadian citizen / Scarpinato and Nicaso: here are the intertwining between mafia, politics and economy - by Vittorio Giordano
05/25/2022 15:37
MONTRÉAL \ aise \ - “The “ Great Game ”of power . This is the theme of the conference which, on May 17 last, saw Professor Antonio Nicaso and Prosecutor Roberto Scarpinato "tell" to the approximately 80 people present at the Italian Cultural Institute in Montreal the discreet but invasive role that organized crime takes place in today's globalized and interconnected world. A very widespread international phenomenon in Canada, favored by a banking system that favors investments without investigating the origin of the funds. So much so that it would be enough to follow the 'trajectory' of capital to understand how organized crime moves today ”. Vittorio Giordano writes about itwho in Montreal directs the weekly Canadian Citizen .
“A strategy intuited a few decades ago by Giovanni Falcone. “Films and TV series - said Scarpinato - tell a false story: on the one hand the ugly, dirty and bad ones, on the other the angels. The truth is that the two worlds are intertwined. Through the investigation, I found myself in Parliament, the Council of Ministers, banks and even the Vatican. And I began to understand that the real mobsters, the most dangerous ones, are not those who shoot, but they are those who have a degree and who sit on the highest floors of the social pyramid. I found that some of the most prominent Mafia leaders were doctors, engineers and architects. The mafia has become a system of power. This is because with the votes of the mafia many have become important politicians;
“When I came to Canada in 1989 - Nicaso said - I felt the same feeling that a kid can feel when he enters a candy shop, because in this country there are all the mafias in the world. In 1982 they killed an accountant who had looked after the interests of the Cotroni family. Then he chose to look after the interests of the Rizzuto family as well. He was killed and in their pockets they found bank slips relating to deposits attributable to the children of the former mayor of Palermo, Vito Ciancimino. He understood perfectly well how the Sicilian Mafia invested in Montreal. And this is because until 2000, in Canada, there was no ceiling for the introduction of cash. Falcone becomes dangerous when he begins to poke his nose into banks and the economy. Some time ago, a small Canadian Falcon, Mark Bourque,
He seizes his checking account, but it is his sentence. The banks protest and the Supreme Court of Canada rules that money, once it enters the bank, is an accounting note and not a tangible asset. And therefore it cannot be seized. Our investigator, transferred to the escort service, will die years later on a United Nations mission in Haiti. That death has this country on its conscience ”.
“What seems interesting to me - underlined Scarpinato - is that the history of the mafia is no longer an Italian history, but a world one. The mafia is becoming one of the most important capitalist powers in the world. With globalization, millions and millions of people around the world are looking for the same lifestyle as in the West: Ferrari, Valentino clothes, but also drugs, gambling, prostitution, counterfeit luxury products. There has been a worldwide demand for goods and services produced by the mafias. The mafia is therefore turning into a trading agency that sells drugs, prostitutes and counterfeit products to millions and millions of ordinary people. All the magistracies of the world, every year, despite their efforts, manage to seize only 10-15% of the global turnover of the drugs that are produced, 85% enter trade and become capital. (…) So perhaps we could distinguish 2 types of criminals: those who fail, who end up in prison; and the successful ones, who become bankers, entrepreneurs and politicians ".
“Canada - added Nicaso - is the only country in the world that allows lawyers not to report suspicious transactions. Canada also allows the trustees, ie those who represent the shell companies, not to reveal the real owner of the investment fund. Everyone knows this, but nobody does anything, because otherwise the economy is put at risk. Canada is the country with the most bank branches in the Caribbean.
There is this hypocrisy that bank executives are judged on the basis of deposits. The higher the deposits, the more the bank counts. But nobody moves a finger. And why? The Charbonneau Commission explained it to us: everyone in Québec benefited from corruption. And what does Canada invent itself? 'Yes, but Québec is a distinct company.' The problem is that corruption doesn't stop at the border. Also because in the 70s another Commission had demonstrated the infiltration of the mafia into the Toronto building. Only Iceland has decided to punish bankers as if they were money launderers, sending them to jail. It is the only case in the world ”.
Roberto Scarpinato was attorney general at the Court of Appeal of Palermo and is one of the most exposed magistrates in the fight against the mafia in Italy. He was part of the anti-mafia pool with Giovanni Falcone and Paolo Borsellino and has dealt with many of the most important mafia trials.
Historian of criminal organizations, Antonio Nicaso is one of the leading 'Ndrangheta experts in the world. He teaches Social History of Organized Crime at Queen's University. He has written over 30 books, including some international bestsellers ”. (aise)
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/30/22 04:56 PM

Two separate topics here:

Manquements sanitaires et crime organisé | Le Canadien était à contrat avec un resto convoqué par la Régie des alcools
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...to-convoque-par-la-regie-des-alcools.php

Le Canada, « un paradis » pour la mafia
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...0/le-canada-un-paradis-pour-la-mafia.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/02/22 03:07 AM

Un autre proche du tueur à gages Frédérick Silva abattu à Laval
https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvell...r-a-gages-frederick-silva-abattu-a-laval

Un entrepreneur tué par balle à Laval
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...n-entrepreneur-tue-par-balle-a-laval.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/02/22 01:36 PM

^^^^
Man killed in Laval restaurant had ties to hit man Frédérick Silva
https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...-had-links-to-organized-crime-police-say

Man fatally shot inside Laval restaurant; police draw links to organized crime
https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/man-fat...-draw-links-to-organized-crime-1.5929002
Posted By: mike68

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/02/22 04:06 PM

Just curious, could this be a mob cleanup? Silva was obviously a cowboy who killed civilians. Now that he is away for life, could the mob be sending a message about this type of activity?
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/02/22 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by mike68
Just curious, could this be a mob cleanup? Silva was obviously a cowboy who killed civilians. Now that he is away for life, could the mob be sending a message about this type of activity?


He tried to kill Salvatore Scoppa.

Another article (there are many more at the moment):

Meurtre dans un restaurant à Laval
« C’était épeurant »
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-restaurant-a-laval/c-etait-epeurant.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/03/22 01:25 AM

^^^^
'There will be repercussions' for brazen restaurant shooting, Laval police chief vows
https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...-had-links-to-organized-crime-police-say
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/11/22 01:53 PM

Gangsterism Out: Conflict in Montreal Mafia approaching
https://www.gangsterismout.com/2022/06/conflict-in-montreal-mafia-approaching.html
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/17/22 03:01 AM

Supreme Court refuses to hear appeal in CBC/Radio-Canada defamation case

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/mont...g-radio-canada-cbc-defamation-1.6291230?
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/17/22 01:12 PM

^^^^
Alain Gravel et Radio-Canada devront verser 60 000 $ en dommages à Lee Lalli

https://www.lesoleil.com/2022/06/16...e-lalli-57530094d352d9df633541dbd1329bc6
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/17/22 09:22 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
^^^^
Man killed in Laval restaurant had ties to hit man Frédérick Silva
https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...-had-links-to-organized-crime-police-say

Man fatally shot inside Laval restaurant; police draw links to organized crime
https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/man-fat...-draw-links-to-organized-crime-1.5929002


La SQ arrête une femme

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...urant-a-laval/la-sq-arrete-une-femme.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/18/22 06:31 PM

Cross-posting (see http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1036027#Post1036027).

Sale alert, which I received just this morning via email, re: this newly released English translation of La source:

Inside the Montreal Mafia: The Confessions of Andrew Scoppa

I'm not sure whether this is a 1-day sale or not. I'll check again tomorrow and report back.

Available on Kobo Canada for $4.99 ($4.49 if you have a VIP membership):
https://www.kobo.com/ca/en/ebook/07aaad2d-b1f2-4468-81dc-0f1eceb20338

Available on Kobo US for $4.99:
https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/inside-the-montreal-mafia

-------------------------

Not sure whether the $9.99 USD price on Amazon US is the regular price, but it's still a good deal -- see below.

https://www.amazon.com/Inside-Montreal-Mafia-Confessions-Andrew-ebook/dp/B09MXG35TW
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/19/22 05:00 PM

^^^^
Still on sale today (Sunday) on both the Kobo Canada and Kobo US sites.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/22/22 05:16 AM

Anti, have you read it yet? Waiting to hear what the experts say before I buy it. Very intrigued by it for sure!
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/25/22 04:22 AM

^^^^
dix,

My apologies for answering so late.

I bought the French ebook version as soon as it came out 21 months ago in October 2020.

For me, the biggest revelations in it are Scoppa's inside details surrounding murders related to the mob war -- these particular revelations were enough for me to consider the money I plopped down on the book to be money well spent. They don't answer all the questions we have regarding Montreal, but by thinking for myself, I used what I read in the book to try to make more sense of what happened, what is happening, and what will happen.

The book will fail to meet the expectations of anyone who hopes it ties up everything in a bow at the end.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/30/22 07:35 PM

Breaking news from about 1 hour ago:

Crime organisé : le tueur à gages Frédérick Silva devient délateur
https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...a-gages-frederick-silva-devient-delateur
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/30/22 08:11 PM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...a-gages-frederick-silva-devient-delateur

Look like Silva will snitch
Sollecito, Rizzuto and Woolley are in deep problem
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/30/22 08:14 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Breaking news from about 1 hour ago:

Crime organisé : le tueur à gages Frédérick Silva devient délateur
https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...a-gages-frederick-silva-devient-delateur


Le tueur à gages Frédérick Silva se place sous la protection de la police
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...lace-sous-la-protection-de-la-police.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/30/22 11:21 PM

^^^^
Hitman tied to organized crime removed by helicopter from a federal penitentiary
https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...y-helicopter-from-a-federal-penitentiary
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/03/22 12:22 AM

Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/04/22 03:12 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
^^^^
Hitman tied to organized crime removed by helicopter from a federal penitentiary
https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...y-helicopter-from-a-federal-penitentiary


Quelle mouche a piqué Frédérick Silva ?
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...uelle-mouche-a-pique-frederick-silva.php
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/08/22 02:58 AM

to the above about frederick silva cooperating do we even know who he was working for on all these hits.
the attempt on salvatore scoppa looks to be a spur of the moment shooting not an organized hit similar to some of his others.
and the others he has been charged with are a hodge podge of murders from HA associates to alleged innocent businessmen.

none of his hits were taken out against anyone loyal to the rizzuto/sollecito faction so make of that what u will.
i guess only time will tell....stay tuned.
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/08/22 03:13 AM

and on the scoppa book after finishing the tiny barely 250 pg. book i was pissed.
i thought for sure it would be full of revelations about a long timeline in crime by a high level mafia operator.
it wasn't exactly that.
parts were articles long discussed on this forum and pulled directly from the archives of the authors or there quebec press colleagues.
many on here have read posted and dissected them ad nauseam...i guess for the unacquainted on the subject they may have been useful but for a longtime researcher and mafia buff absolutely pointless. another pointless subject the bowel afflictions of mr.scoppa who cares.

however it did shed some light on the cutthroat world that is the mafia in MTL.
if we are to believe scoppas confessions about a laundry list of murders committed in the melieu many did not happen because of long seething vendettas or a media driven narrative about the sicilian vs. calabrian nonsense. the majority of these murders were simply over money and territory.

for those who have not or will not read the book feel free to ask some questions. there can be many on a wide range of topics.
i went back over and pulled some notes as frustratingly there was no index.
ask on spoiler alert......the scoppa bros didnt make it.
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/08/22 08:43 AM

Originally Posted by VitoCahill
and on the scoppa book after finishing the tiny barely 250 pg. book i was pissed.
i thought for sure it would be full of revelations about a long timeline in crime by a high level mafia operator.
it wasn't exactly that.
parts were articles long discussed on this forum and pulled directly from the archives of the authors or there quebec press colleagues.
many on here have read posted and dissected them ad nauseam...i guess for the unacquainted on the subject they may have been useful but for a longtime researcher and mafia buff absolutely pointless. another pointless subject the bowel afflictions of mr.scoppa who cares.

however it did shed some light on the cutthroat world that is the mafia in MTL.
if we are to believe scoppas confessions about a laundry list of murders committed in the melieu many did not happen because of long seething vendettas or a media driven narrative about the sicilian vs. calabrian nonsense. the majority of these murders were simply over money and territory.

for those who have not or will not read the book feel free to ask some questions. there can be many on a wide range of topics.
i went back over and pulled some notes as frustratingly there was no index.
ask on spoiler alert......the scoppa bros didnt make it.


I hear you on the books format. But you gotta listen to what the authors said about Scoppa. He had ill intentions of using these guys like a weapon, like almost like his own personal propaganda machine. He was a lot like Greg Scarpa to me. They published what could be independently verified by MULTIPLE SOURCES. Then published the sources. Honestly, it reminded me of the boards, where no one takes what you say seriously unless you provide a Law Enforcement file and 2 or 3 articles. They had to do it like this I think, if they publish everything Scoppa wanted, he would have probably been pinning murders on people and who knows what. He woulda got them sued for sure.

And like you, I was also surprised how much beef was over money and territory. Just street shit. And I was VERY shocked at how many Italians actually directly ran street distribution.
I couldnt believe they formed a " Co- Op" with the Hells Angels. And there WERE surprises. Valiquette being one of the biggest.


I was surprised at Vito owing money. Mostly because I assumed Vito controlled the sports gambling. I was NOT surprised when Scoppa insinuated that Alfonso Caruana pulled Vitos strings, or at least, greatly influenced him. And that HE was really the rich one. Arcadi started the War, then fled at the 1st sign of danger. The Rizzutos inertia after 1st the Renda, then Nick Jr. hits was startling. The Renda hit is the REAL mystery to me..... I was shocked at how scared they were of Ducarme Joseph, how dependent on Whooley Sollecito was, and on how VICIOUS Sollecito was.


One of the most interesting revelations was that Montreal has, and if I'm incorrect, feel free to let me know, but Montreal has ONE SPORTSBOOK, with " Investors". And Montreal no longer controls the Platinum book.

I'm trying to understand when that happened, and how?
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/08/22 01:35 PM

Yes the BOOK (the loan,gambling one) looks like one of the main prizes for anyone able to obtain it. Scoppas claim of it being worth 25 million a year to whomever controls it almost seems low. I assume that number is based just on loan collection not overall sports betting. Even in 2006 the Rizzuto family was taking in hundreds of millions in bets.
As far as platinum goes I had recently reread parts of business or blood on that subject. In that book it states that Moreno Gallo had control of platinum at least from 2010-2012. From the time Gallo allied with Montagna to Gallo's Jan 2012 deportation. Around the time of Vito's release control of platinum on the MTL end had passed back into the Rizzuto family.
However the book states that those in Toronto who had control of platinum retained it. Platinum was controlled 2012-2013 by Ontario based hells Angels and eventually from the 2019 figliomeni arrests and project Hobart the figliomeni ndrine.
So I would say the rizzutos don't currently control platinum but they clearly have a financial interest in it.
There was also a reference in business or blood to Ontario ha members attending Vito's funeral.
Well rob Barletta,billy miller 2 powerful members were long involved in platinum.
And if u have read bloodlines by Lee Lamothe the definitive book about the Caruana cuntrera family Alfonso Caruana was at his peak way above Vito.
Caruana was one of the biggest importers of drugs in the world in his prime.
Financially there would be no comparison to what the cc were up to and the rizzutos.
Caruana being based in Canada being one of the reasons.

The mafia and hell's alliance has long existed in MTL in one form another so was not shocking and still exists in 2022.

The rizzutos were rudderless leadership wise after 2006 colisee bust. Think of an East coast family having its entire admin busted. The recent Colombo bust being a good example. So what if after the Colombos 2021 bust say the lucchese started picking off low level guys and taking territory or a powerful faction of the Colombos?
The rizzutos were a unified crime family pre 2006. After that the family splintered and devolved into a total mess 2006 and on with a litany of groups and factions fighting each other.

The nick jr hit being done by magi was surprising and over money owed as well as del peschio. The reason makes more sense than Montagna or Calabrians from Toronto.

Keep em coming everyone it's refreshing to talk about fairly current mafia activity.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/09/22 04:41 AM

Originally Posted by CabriniGreen
and on how VICIOUS Sollecito was.


I'd love to hear more on this.

Thanks for the answer anti, I'm looking at possibly trying to find this
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/09/22 05:07 AM

a theory...?
sebastien giroux and bernard cherfan being murdered so recently is it possible that someone in OC already knew that silva had flipped?
there has been mention that cherfan helped hide silva when he was on the run and possibly hired him out for "work"
cherfan looks to have been a link to the mafia by way of stefano sollecito.

sollecito is ruthless that much has been established if we are to believe the litany of murders andrea scoppa pinned on him in his book.
also the police in MTL (and canada in general) are not above corruption of any kind. the MTL police have a history of officers dealing with the mafia.

the giroux murder to me is more puzzling.
i'm sure it will not take long to find out.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/10/22 12:23 AM

The Rizzuto borgata still has strong ties to Sicily.
Posted By: BensonHURST

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/10/22 06:01 PM

Are Rizzuto’s the most powerful LCN family in Canada?

I believe what their downfall was that they structured their Borgata like a drug cartel more than a traditional LCN family.

With a drug cartels all any member needs is a direct supplier to the drugs and than he can either start his own organization or try to take over the existing.

If their Borgata was LCN, there are atleast rules to try and prevent anyone from just grabbing the Reins.

I still don’t know exactly what happened with the Rizzutto’s other than a coup attempt.

If they were still allied with the Bonanno’s this might not I’ve happened.

It seemed like when all went to shit families and crews were trying to ally themselves with American LCN for some reason.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/26/22 04:28 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Pas d’arrêt du processus judiciaire contre Marie-Josée Viau

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...s-judiciaire-contre-marie-josee-viau.php


Meurtres des frères Falduto | Marie-Josée Viau libérée pendant son appel

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...josee-viau-liberee-pendant-son-appel.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/27/22 12:10 PM

^^^^
Coupable de meurtres, Marie-Josée Viau pourra être libérée

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2022/07/26/coupable-de-meurtres-elle-pourra-etre-liberee
Posted By: mike68

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/27/22 03:57 PM

I'm sorry but this is outrageous. How can they let this woman out when she was convicted of setting up two men to be murdered on her property and she disposed of the bodies?!?!?! You wonder why the Mob is still operating old school with murders etc. in Canada and not the U.S. Well this could be reason number 1.
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/28/22 01:13 AM

typical canadian "justice" system.
let a convicted murderer out on bail and yet it took over a month for our courts to even decide if another woman could even get a bail hearing.
tamara lich was charged with mischief and a small list of other petty crimes related to canadas freedom convoy protest in february.
soooooo....mischief and other nonsense keep her locked up.(i will say she was just released 2 days ago)...murder,disposing of bodies for the mafia welllllll i guess go home with conditions and be good sweetheart.

but i digress.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/28/22 05:17 AM

There's no doubt the lax Candian laws is what is keeping the mafia alive North of the border. Until they get stringent RICO laws (whether fair or not) they will continue to deal with it up there.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/02/22 09:40 PM

Mob-tied Montreal drug smuggler on the lam nabbed after applying for passport

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...e-lam-nabbed-after-applying-for-passport
Posted By: Liggio

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/02/22 09:48 PM

You act like Canada is in such bad shape because of the Mafia. Look at America, where the mob has been mostly eradicated, yet our economy is shit, inflation is out of control, we get raped through high income taxes, people are having to work much, much harder than generations past to even hope to own a home, the list goes on and on. Taking all of this into consideration I have absolutely no problem with the mob.
Posted By: enricopc

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/18/22 12:17 PM

Confessions de Frédérick Silva, le tueur à gages: plusieurs dizaines de meurtres pourraient être résolus:

https://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2022/08...ines-de-meurtres-pourraient-etre-resolus
Posted By: mike68

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/18/22 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by enricopc
Confessions de Frédérick Silva, le tueur à gages: plusieurs dizaines de meurtres pourraient être résolus:

https://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2022/08...ines-de-meurtres-pourraient-etre-resolus


Wow, could this bring down the Rizzuto leadership if not more?
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/18/22 05:09 PM

Originally Posted by mike68
Originally Posted by enricopc
Confessions de Frédérick Silva, le tueur à gages: plusieurs dizaines de meurtres pourraient être résolus:

https://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2022/08...ines-de-meurtres-pourraient-etre-resolus


Wow, could this bring down the Rizzuto leadership if not more?


Big news makes a lot of people nervous.
Posted By: enricopc

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/18/22 07:13 PM

Really exciting. Will depend on who directly gave him orders. But, however, they say he knows about or is implicated in so many murders. How can He not have been paid enough money or be provided to feel safe to secure he doesn't talk?
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/19/22 04:04 AM

Originally Posted by enricopc
Confessions de Frédérick Silva, le tueur à gages: plusieurs dizaines de meurtres pourraient être résolus:

https://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2022/08...ines-de-meurtres-pourraient-etre-resolus


Premières révélations de Frédérick Silva divulguées en cour

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...e-frederick-silva-divulguees-en-cour.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/19/22 02:22 PM

^^^^
Les aveux explosifs d’un ex-tueur à gages sèment la panique au sein du crime organisé

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2022/08/19/panique-au-sein-du-crime-organise
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/19/22 06:24 PM

L'ex-motard Sergio Piccirilli peut retourner à la maison

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...iccirilli-peut-retourner-a-la-maison.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/19/22 08:40 PM

^^^^
Organized crime figure tied to Hells Angels gets full parole

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...re-tied-to-hells-angels-gets-full-parole
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/22/22 07:33 AM

Originally Posted by mike68
Originally Posted by enricopc
Confessions de Frédérick Silva, le tueur à gages: plusieurs dizaines de meurtres pourraient être résolus:

https://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2022/08...ines-de-meurtres-pourraient-etre-resolus


Wow, could this bring down the Rizzuto leadership if not more?


Doubt it
Posted By: chin_gigante

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/22/22 08:58 PM

Originally Posted by mike68
Originally Posted by enricopc
Confessions de Frédérick Silva, le tueur à gages: plusieurs dizaines de meurtres pourraient être résolus:

https://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2022/08...ines-de-meurtres-pourraient-etre-resolus


Wow, could this bring down the Rizzuto leadership if not more?


It's conceivable. We know Silva personally met with Rizzuto and Sollecito
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/24/22 01:08 PM

Trente minutes, deux meurtres

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...ontreal/trente-minutes-deux-meurtres.php

Two men dead after separate midday shootings in Montreal

https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/man-shot-in-parking-lot-of-rockland-shopping-centre

2 men dead after daytime shootings less than an hour apart in Montreal

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/man-shot-rockland-centre-1.6559722
Posted By: mike68

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/24/22 04:02 PM

They mention a drug deal that fell through in Ohio. I wonder if this is a cartel hit as was rumored with Caputo.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/24/22 04:49 PM

He pictures himself hours before he was shot at the restaurant

Diego Fiorita began his coffee-in-hand day philosophizing about the beauty of life. A few hours later, he was gunned down on the terrace of a restaurant in Montreal’s Latin Quarter where he had his habits.

https://www.townoflaronge.ca/he-pictures-himself-hours-before-he-was-shot-at-the-restaurant/
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/24/22 08:50 PM

Fiorita was a magazine publisher, a martial arts practitioner, and a sports announcer, among other things.
Posted By: Captbony1999

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/24/22 10:13 PM

Maybe someone can complete and publish a list of Rizzuto-related murders.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/25/22 12:16 AM

Originally Posted by Captbony1999
Maybe someone can complete and publish a list of Rizzuto-related murders.


Yep we are talking about dozens in the last decades.
Posted By: BensonHURST

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/25/22 03:34 AM

He didnt seem like he had a care in the world this guy.

Shits CRAZY up north...
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/25/22 04:49 AM

Le véhicule du suspect est localisé

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/.../le-vehicule-du-suspect-est-localise.php


Old Montreal stabbing victim's testimony is unreliable, defence argues

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...s-testimony-is-unreliable-defence-argues
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/25/22 06:37 AM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Le véhicule du suspect est localisé

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/.../le-vehicule-du-suspect-est-localise.php


Old Montreal stabbing victim's testimony is unreliable, defence argues

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...s-testimony-is-unreliable-defence-argues


Any way for you to convert these articles to English?
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/25/22 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia


Meurtre au Centre Rockland: un 6e importateur de coke assassiné en trois ans
La victime était liée au cartel de Sinaloa

https://www.journaldequebec.com/2022/08/25/un-6e-importateur-de-coke-assassine-en-trois-ans
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/25/22 08:26 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Originally Posted by antimafia


Meurtre au Centre Rockland: un 6e importateur de coke assassiné en trois ans
La victime était liée au cartel de Sinaloa

https://www.journaldequebec.com/2022/08/25/un-6e-importateur-de-coke-assassine-en-trois-ans


Interesting !

This black series targeting cocaine importers began with the November 2018 murder of Philipos Kollaros , then linked to the Sinaloa Cartel.

Since then, Ray Kanho (Italian Mafia), Michail Michakis (Sinaloa Cartel), Ivan Alejandro Silva Sanchez (Sinaloa Cartel) and Piero Arena (Italian Mafia) have suffered the same fate.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/26/22 06:21 PM

More gunshots in Deux-Montagnes

PHOTO PATRICK SANFAÇON, THE PRESS

A dozen shots were fired at a residence on 15th Avenue .

A dozen shots were fired at the residence of Tony Accurso's son. This is the second time this week that shots have been fired in this residential area of ??Deux-Montagnes.

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...re-des-coups-de-feu-a-deux-montagnes.php
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/27/22 10:21 AM

Shots fired at another Deux-Montagnes house near Tony Accurso's home
Police are investigating possible links between the events of Tuesday and Friday near the property of the construction magnate.

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...deux-montagnes-for-second-time-this-week
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/07/22 02:33 AM

Un mafieux a tenté d’extorquer des religieuses

https://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2022/09...avoir-tente-dextorquer-des-religieuses-1
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/07/22 01:33 PM

^^^^
Le mafieux Francesco Del Balso arrêté

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...e-mafieux-francesco-del-balso-arrete.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/07/22 07:13 PM

^^^^
Montreal Mob figure arrested after alleged extortion of priest

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...er-francesco-del-balso-arrested-in-laval
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/07/22 07:19 PM

He's gonna help him eat out of a straw. lol....thats very nice of Del Balso.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/07/22 10:16 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia


Article has been updated (same link) and has a new title:

Le mafieux Francesco Del Balso libéré sous conditions
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/08/22 04:35 PM

Murder trial of hit man's alleged accomplice begins at Montreal courthouse

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...accomplice-begins-at-montreal-courthouse
Posted By: BensonHURST

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/08/22 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Originally Posted by antimafia


Article has been updated (same link) and has a new title:

Le mafieux Francesco Del Balso libéré sous conditions


The article
Says former lieutenant
Also, someone broke into his house and they molested his family members??

W.T.F…. Is that about???
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/08/22 07:26 PM

Yes del balso worked under and I still think does work under Francesco Arcadi.
The molested is a bad translation more likely meaning harassed.
I have never heard an explanation as to what went on there or why at that time he was targeted. Del balso wasn't home when that happened and had just been released from prison.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/09/22 03:40 AM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Originally Posted by antimafia


Article has been updated (same link) and has a new title:

Le mafieux Francesco Del Balso libéré sous conditions


Possible extorsion dans une église : le mafieux Francesco Del Balso libéré - :

https://www.qub.ca/article/possible...ux-francesco-del-balso-libere-1080249766
Posted By: BensonHURST

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/09/22 08:51 AM

They label him one of the most powerful mobsters in MTL and they let him out ROR
Posted By: BensonHURST

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/09/22 08:51 AM

Oh CANADA, OH CANADA
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/10/22 03:40 PM

« Une grande partie de nous est disparue et ne reviendra jamais »

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-est-disparue-et-ne-reviendra-jamais.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/12/22 09:52 PM

Gas-station hit of Hells Angels associate was messy, court hears

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...s-angels-associate-was-messy-court-hears
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/13/22 02:27 PM

^^^^
Meurtre en plein jour: le contrat de trop pour un assassin

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2022/09/12/le-contrat-de-trop-pour-un-assassin
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/13/22 04:23 PM

Trial begins for man charged in four killings in Montreal Mob war

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...ged-in-four-killings-in-montreal-mob-war
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/14/22 04:08 AM

^^^^
Incursion au cœur d’une guerre de clan

https://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2022/09/13/proces-pour-meurtres-incursion-au-cur-dune-guerre-de-clan-1


Un tueur à gages témoignera contre un homme accusé de quatre meurtres

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...e-un-homme-accuse-de-quatre-meurtres.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/19/22 09:25 PM

Giovanni Presta, charged with murder, had tools to 3D print firearms

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...th-murder-had-tools-to-3d-print-firearms
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/20/22 03:00 PM

^^^^
Un véritable arsenal était caché dans un mur chez l’accusé

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...tait-cache-dans-un-mur-chez-l-accuse.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/20/22 06:15 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Trial begins for man charged in four killings in Montreal Mob war

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...ged-in-four-killings-in-montreal-mob-war


CSI shows do not reflect real police work, crime scene technician tells Massari jury

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...rime-scene-technician-tells-massari-jury
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/22/22 06:47 AM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Giovanni Presta, charged with murder, had tools to 3D print firearms

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...th-murder-had-tools-to-3d-print-firearms


L’accusé a acheté 44 balises GPS en moins de trois ans

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...44-balises-gps-en-moins-de-trois-ans.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/22/22 08:30 PM

L’un s’est évadé de prison, l’autre doit y retourner

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...e-de-prison-l-autre-doit-y-retourner.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/22/22 09:13 PM

Tweet by Félix Séguin:

Cette semaine à J.E. - Il exporte DEUX TONNES de coke par année de la Colombie au Québec.

Un traffic lucratif sous le nez de la police canadienne. Suivez notre aventure (complètement débile) à sa rencontre dans la Cordillère des Andes.

https://twitter.com/felixseguin/status/1572343149321768961?s=20&t=TG-ujTNWHzDOLFa5kxX5qw
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/22/22 09:24 PM

Deux suspects arrêtés un mois plus tard

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...x-suspects-arretes-un-mois-plus-tard.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/22/22 09:38 PM

Cross-posting — see http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/u...s=antimafia&Search=true#Post1040587.

Alleged West End Gang leader has parole revoked because of his paranoia

https://montrealgazette.com/news/al...s-parole-revoked-because-of-his-paranoia


Trafic de cocaïne: trop risqué de libérer un ex-leader du gang de l’Ouest

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...e-liberer-un-ex-leader-du-gang-de-louest
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/23/22 05:57 AM

^^^^
Shane Maloney has now disappeared. The man uses a wheelchair.

High-level gangster vanishes while on parole in B.C.

https://vancouversun.com/news/crime/high-level-gangster-vanishes-while-on-parole-in-bc
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/23/22 02:12 PM

Narcos PQ : la cocaïne entre en première classe sur Air Canada :

https://www.qub.ca/article/narcos-pq-la-cocaine-entre-en-premiere-classe-sur-air-canada-1081032670
——-

Airing tonight at 9:30 pm EDT:

NARCOS PQ: LA ROUTE DE LA COCAÏNE

Les Québécois consomment 12 fois plus de cocaïne que la moyenne mondiale.

Cette semaine à J.E, incursion au cœur des cartels colombiens.

Soyez au rendez-vous vendredi 21h30 sur @TVAreseau

https://twitter.com/je_enquete/status/1572303816271216643?s=46&t=_62B1uRNMFs-8uAfTpuqVA
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/23/22 04:45 PM

Extrait du livre Narcos PQ

https://www.journaldequebec.com/2022/09/23/extrait-du-livre-narcos-pq
Posted By: Captbony1999

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/24/22 12:21 AM

Can someone come up with Rizzuto count murders?
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/24/22 02:01 PM

what kind of count? an overall murder list or those committed by the rizzutos against the rizzutos?

and what time period?
from 2004-???
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/25/22 02:00 PM

https://gangsterreport.com/bullet-point-presentation-the-montreal-mafia-war-hit-list-2005-2020/

get ya started for now.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/25/22 05:58 PM



March 25. 2019— Montreal mob enforcer Mike Di Battista is shot to death behind the wheel of his car in the Dominican Republic. Di Battista was tied to mafia chief Liborio (Poncho) Cuntrera.


He was linked to the so-called Silvano cell, linked in turn with the groups Bastone, the Hell’s Angels and De Vito.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/26/22 07:22 PM

Originally Posted by Hollander


March 25. 2019— Montreal mob enforcer Mike Di Battista is shot to death behind the wheel of his car in the Dominican Republic. Di Battista was tied to mafia chief Liborio (Poncho) Cuntrera.


He was linked to the so-called Silvano cell, linked in turn with the groups Bastone, the Hell’s Angels and De Vito.


@Captbony1999

For numbers with respect to earlier in the war, see the following:

1. the list here at http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=694000 -- scroll down to the 4th post.

2. the list here at http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=682894#Post682894.

3. the 2nd para. of Les Perreaux's Feb. 4, 2013 article, which is located at http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/in-the-trenches-with-the-montreal-mob/article8156407/, regarding a body count.

4. the timeline appearing at the end of the Canadian Press article found, among other places, at http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/ca...dinary-107429248.html?viewAllComments=y.

5. the list, taken from reporter Peggy Curran's article, that appears here at http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/u...real+Mafia%22&Search=true#Post585545.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/30/22 03:28 AM

Originally Posted by antimafia
^^^^
Shane Maloney has now disappeared. The man uses a wheelchair.

High-level gangster vanishes while on parole in B.C.

https://vancouversun.com/news/crime/high-level-gangster-vanishes-while-on-parole-in-bc


Cross-posting.

Tweet from reporter Kim Bolan (@kbolan) earlier today:

Vancouver Police confirmed today that gangster Shane Maloney is back in custody. Arrested downtown several days ago.

4:55 PM 2022-09-29

https://twitter.com/kbolan/status/1575575108043042817?s=46&t=Bx9T7GgYISM_JM9ncM-fMA
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/30/22 07:45 PM

Le géant des ordures Ricova sous enquête pour trafic de cocaïne

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2022/09/30/geant-des-ordures-sous-enquete-pour-trafic-de-cocaine

Excerpt:

Aux funérailles de Rizzuto

Dans ce même rapport, la SQ fait aussi état de contacts entre un des dirigeants de Ricova et le clan Rizzuto.

Selon nos informations, cet individu dirige notamment la filiale Services Ricova. Cette entreprise a obtenu au moins 150 M$ de contrats publics depuis cinq ans, notamment avec les villes de Montréal, Boucherville et Brossard, ainsi qu’avec des centres de services scolaires et le gouvernement du Québec.

Ce dirigeant est connu de la police pour avoir participé au party privé de l’ancien parrain de la mafia, Nicolo Rizzuto Senior, en 2009.

La police soutient que des individus haut placés du crime organisé de Montréal, de Toronto, des États-Unis, mais aussi d’Italie étaient présents à cet événement.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/30/22 11:29 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
^^^^
No bail for men charged with assault on retired Montreal police officer

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...ault-on-retired-montreal-police-officer/


Man who attacked retired Montreal police detective in his home pleads guilty
Two other men charged in the same case are scheduled to have a trial that begins on Monday.

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...lice-detective-in-his-home-pleads-guilty
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/01/22 01:14 AM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Le géant des ordures Ricova sous enquête pour trafic de cocaïne

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2022/09/30/geant-des-ordures-sous-enquete-pour-trafic-de-cocaine

Excerpt:

Aux funérailles de Rizzuto

Dans ce même rapport, la SQ fait aussi état de contacts entre un des dirigeants de Ricova et le clan Rizzuto.

Selon nos informations, cet individu dirige notamment la filiale Services Ricova. Cette entreprise a obtenu au moins 150 M$ de contrats publics depuis cinq ans, notamment avec les villes de Montréal, Boucherville et Brossard, ainsi qu’avec des centres de services scolaires et le gouvernement du Québec.

Ce dirigeant est connu de la police pour avoir participé au party privé de l’ancien parrain de la mafia, Nicolo Rizzuto Senior, en 2009.

La police soutient que des individus haut placés du crime organisé de Montréal, de Toronto, des États-Unis, mais aussi d’Italie étaient présents à cet événement.


Dominic Calubriale used a PR newswire firm to issue the press release found here:

Reputation of Dominic Colubriale - Ricova's president reiterates that he has always acted legally
https://prn.to/3fAlt2T
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/01/22 05:11 AM

^^^^
I’ve been watching a replay of the French-language J.E TV program — about Colubriale and his company Ricova — that aired Friday at 9:30 pm EDT.

At the 6:45 mark, journalist/host Félix Séguin, who is also narrating, is more specific about the provenance of the American guests at the 2009 private party for Nick Rizzuto Sr.: they are from New York. No other details provided.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/01/22 01:47 PM

Procès de Jonathan Massari | « Je devais être le plus près possible de lui »

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...s-etre-le-plus-pres-possible-de-lui.php#
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/01/22 01:55 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Originally Posted by antimafia
^^^^
No bail for men charged with assault on retired Montreal police officer

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...ault-on-retired-montreal-police-officer/


Man who attacked retired Montreal police detective in his home pleads guilty
Two other men charged in the same case are scheduled to have a trial that begins on Monday.

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...lice-detective-in-his-home-pleads-guilty


Agression contre l’ex-enquêteur Poletti | Un deuxième accusé plaide coupable
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...i/un-deuxieme-accuse-plaide-coupable.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/01/22 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
^^^^
I’ve been watching a replay of the French-language J.E TV program — about Colubriale and his company Ricova — that aired Friday at 9:30 pm EDT.

At the 6:45 mark, journalist/host Félix Séguin, who is also narrating, is more specific about the provenance of the American guests at the 2009 private party for Nick Rizzuto Sr.: they are from New York. No other details provided.


Go to https://www.qub.ca/tvaplus/tva/j-e/saison-30/episode-877-1082337152 to watch last night's episode. On the landing page, you'll have to wait for three or four 15-sec. ads before the actual program starts. Scrub to around the 6:00 mark to listen to the detail above.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/05/22 04:34 PM

Le SPVM est sur les talons de la mafia italienne

https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/1922506/spvm-arrestation-proche-clan-rizzuto-mafia
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/06/22 01:02 AM

interesting...but what a waste of ink.
so 2 people were arrested and no names????
someone close to the rizzutos...well thats pretty generic. is it an actual relative or a member of the mafia?

i cannot understand why canadian media is so hesitant to publish names of arrested criminals. from the article someone was arrested with a large amount of money and .40 cal ammo. both those should be enough to publish a name.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/11/22 07:50 PM

Accused was getaway driver in Montreal Mafia leader Sollecito's murder, jury hears
https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...afia-leader-sollecitos-murder-jury-hears

« Tu dois en tuer un absolument »
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...assari/tu-dois-en-tuer-un-absolument.php
Posted By: BensonHURST

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/12/22 09:32 AM

Why did Scoppa want Giordano and Solicetto killed?

And Massari was supposed to kill one of the brothers so he would be made capo, for Scoppa, than a short while later Massari set up Scoppa, to be KILLED?

What happened there?

And a RAT in C.A. don’t see that all too often.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/14/22 01:18 AM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Originally Posted by antimafia
^^^^
I’ve been watching a replay of the French-language J.E TV program — about Colubriale and his company Ricova — that aired Friday at 9:30 pm EDT.

At the 6:45 mark, journalist/host Félix Séguin, who is also narrating, is more specific about the provenance of the American guests at the 2009 private party for Nick Rizzuto Sr.: they are from New York. No other details provided.


Go to https://www.qub.ca/tvaplus/tva/j-e/saison-30/episode-877-1082337152 to watch last night's episode. On the landing page, you'll have to wait for three or four 15-sec. ads before the actual program starts. Scrub to around the 6:00 mark to listen to the detail above.


Ricova poursuit GROUPE TVA et MÉDIA QMI en diffamation et réclame plus de 17 M $

https://prn.to/3VmzSjW

Below is one link to the English version of the press release:

Ricova sues TVA Group and QMI MEDIA for defamation and claims over $17M

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ricova-sues-tva-group-qmi-120900759.html
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/16/22 02:03 PM

salvatore scoppa saw giordano and rocco sollecito as threats to his own life.
scoppa knew it was only a matter of time before stefano sollecito got out of prison on bail and wanted to weaken his position by murdering any leadership left on the street. according to andrew scoppa stefano was intent on murdering both scoppa brothers before his arrest and imprisonment in 2015.
rocco sollecito and giordano and then the murder of vincenzo spagnolo which as it turns out was a somewhat botched hit. the intent was to kill nicola spagnolo not the father. it turns out vincenzo was not a leader in current admin for the rizzuto/sollecito faction. but all 3 plus the falduto bros make 5 murders linked direct to salvatore scoppa and his crew.

now as far as massari becoming capo we can right off as a translation issue. massari was not going to become a capo i dont even know if MTL mafia uses this term. massari would have become more like a soldier working under scoppa. regardless its a mute point as he most likely will spend the rest of his life in jail.

the cut throat nature of the mafia in MTL is more surprising. sollecito trying to turn the 2 scoppa bros against each other. mirarchi trying to play all sides. mirarchis play looks to have worked as he is still living....for now.
Posted By: jace

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/16/22 05:36 PM

Are these all one war or different feuds? The violence there is comparable to the 1920's in America during the Chicago wars. It's amazing. Just looking over this thread and how long it is shows that.
Posted By: mike68

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/17/22 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by jace
Are these all one war or different feuds? The violence there is comparable to the 1920's in America during the Chicago wars. It's amazing. Just looking over this thread and how long it is shows that.


What will it take for the mafia up there to say, ok enough, time to move forward. Is there a cooler mind up there that will eventually prevail? Is there anyone who can garner the widespread respect that Vito had?
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/17/22 09:15 PM

all of the murders in MTL are NOT related to one single ongoing war...despite the length of this thread.

there have been several overlapping but separate feuds/wars ongoing since 2004 arrest of VITO RIZZUTO.

many of which i have or others have explained in detail on this and other threads on this forum. many of the murders have nothing to do with the dominant wars against the RIZZUTOS. i can go into further detail on this but may take a bit to get all my facts straight.

to the other question about a capable leader up north its possible that person is in place currently. despite the near constant daily gun violence in MTL area very little of it since the murder of the scoppa bros and more importantly andrew scoppa has anything to do with the MAFIA. the majority of these shootings and murders are being committed by street gang members over drug turf,on line rapping feuds and some inter gang fighting. there has been attempts by the police to contact both the MAFIA and HA leaders to stem the violence. however why would the OC leaders in MTL get caught meeting with these low level gangbangers? it could be a trap by police to show links between all these groups or the police belief that these leaders even have the ability to control seemingly un controllable gangs.

i think that LEONARDO RIZZUTO and STEFANO SOLLECITO still hold sway amongst the MAFIA in MTL.

murders/attempts jan.1 2020-
piero arena-murder sept.7 2021,attempt july.22 2021.
davide barberio-attempt sept.21 2021
serafino oliverio-attempt nov.10 2021

there may be other attempts or murders of MAFIA leaders since scoppas murder but i cant find them.
there is a much longer list of murders since oct 2019 but i dont think there is clear evidence yet if any of them are directly related to the MAFIA.
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/19/22 02:45 AM

posting this list to show murders related to overall wars against the RIZZUTO CRIME FAMILY (RCF) starting with aug.11 2005 murder of giovanni bertolo. i will use this murder as a start date for first war.

(aug.11 2005-nov.10 2010)

1.aug.11 2005-giovanni bertolo
allied w/ raynald desjardins (RD)
ordered by: francesco arcadi

2.aug.30 2006-domenico macri
allied w/ francesco arcadi, alleged macri was a relative?
ordered by:?

note: the large gap in murders can be explained by the mass arrests against the RCF as part of project colisee nov.22 2006 imprisoning entire administration of family.

3.jan.16 2009-sam fasulo
allied w/ francesco arcadi, alleged to be a relative?
ordered by:?

4.aug.21 2009-federico del peschio
allied w/ nick rizzuto sr./RCF
ordered by: tony magi
committed by: ducarme joseph

5.dec.28 2009-nick rizzuto jr.
allied w/ nick rizzuto sr./RCF
ordered by: tony magi
committed by: ducarme joseph

note:both murders 4,5 committed over a $1.5 million debt.

6.may.19 2010-paolo renda
allied w/ nick rizzuto sr./RCF
ordered by: alliance of joe dimaulo/raynald desjardins,giuseppe devito.
committed by:?

7/8.june.28 2010-agostino cuntrera and liborio sciascia (bodyguard)
allied w/ RCF, at this point cuntrera was street boss.
ordered and committed by: giuseppe devito

9.sept.29 2010-ennio bruni
allied w/RCF
ordered by:?

10.nov.10 2010-nick rizzuto sr.
allied w/ RCF, at this point nick sr. was acting boss.
ordered by: alliance of joe dimaulo/raynald desjardins,giuseppe devito.
committed by:?
Posted By: mike68

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/19/22 04:04 PM

Magi was not 'made', correct? That took some balls to clip the bosses son. Why did he think he could get away with that?

I notice you didn't mention Montagna. I thought that I had read that he had a conversation with Vito Sr. pressuring him to step aside. There is very little doubt that he was involved in these hits as well prior to the internal discord with Desjardins.
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/19/22 11:37 PM

much like the chicago outfit MTL has no ceremony. i have followed the MAFIA in MTL very closely for a long time read a lot of books and can find no evidence of an initiation ceremony ever taking place. i know all the comments soon to come of being a secret society and how could us civilians ever know the inner workings of a ....blah blah blah. IF said ceremony did exist in MTL since the days of the cotronis or even since the reign of the rizzutos nowhere is there evidence.

with that being said magi in an american sense was not made. magi had long been involved with VITO and NICK JR. in real estate purchases and condo deals.
magi had rung up a large debt to del peschio and JR. and with NICK SR. old recently released from jail and staying off the street magi with the help of ducarme joseph felt able to pull off both. we could assume also that magi arranged these with full knowledge that it would play well with the desjardins/devito/dimaulo alliance. possibly even backed by them.

the extent to which montagna was involved in a lot of these murders is still a subject of debate. there is no doubt that he joined in with desjardins et al at some point.
but was it immediately upon arrival on the scene in MTL in april of 2009? not sure.
even being a former acting boss of the bonannos did not mean much to dug in OC figures in MTL, consider how things ended for him.
in the very good book mafia inc. it is suggested that a meeting did take place with NICK SR. and montagna where SR. was asked to step aside and the old man told him where to go. oh to be a fly on the wall at that meeting.

i think after hitting the streets montagna would have had to take some time to gather a crew around him which he did. the arcuri family,giuseppe renda,antonio pietrantonio,lorenzo lo presti to name the most prominent all joined up with him. but no way that could have happened en masse april 2009. there is no evidence montagna had links into MTL at all prior to being deported. there is a reference to family he had in the MTL area but i cannot find any names to prove. montagna and his small crew did begin to extort pizzo/street tax from some businesses but by doing this began to step on the toes of others in the desjardins group.

after the murder of NICK SR. montagna and desjardins et al began a working alliance that soured and eventually ended with montagnas nov 2011 murder.
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/20/22 01:55 AM

2nd war
(oct.6 2012-dec.23 2013)
-time period after VITO RIZZUTO'S release from prison up to his death.
-brief calm period prior to this (nov.11 2010-oct.5 2012) because of most leaders of alliance desjardins,devito were imprisoned. montagna was dead leaving but dimaulo left. devito continued to exert influence from his jail cell back to his crew on the street. any remaining members of a now shattered rizzuto crime family were either imprisoned or in hiding.

1.nov.4 2012-joe dimaulo
allied w/RD
ordered by:VR
committed by:tonino callochia

2.jan.22 2013-gaetan gosselin
allied w/RD
ordered by:VR
committed by:unit 44-harry mytil led crew,reds street gang.
-gosselin with RD in jail would have looked after some of his interests on the street.

3.feb.1 2013-vincenzo scuderi
allied w/ devito crew
ordered by:VR
committed by:same crew as shown above for gosselin.

4/5.apr.9 2013-juan ramon fernandez and fernando pimentel.
allied w/RD
ordered by:VR
committed by: pietro and salvatore scaduto in bagheria sicily.

6.may.15 2013-harry mytil
allied w/ unit 44 reds allied street gang,mytil would be leader of crew.
ordered by:few possibilities here...
a.VR for crew getting arrested for both hits.
b.allies of RD and giuseppe devito.
c.feud inside reds or from blues allied street gangs.

7.july.8 2013-giuseppe devito
allied w/ RD,leader of own crew while imprisoned.
ordered by:VR
committed by:? poisoned with cyanide while imprisoned.

8.nov.10 2013-moreno gallo
allied w/ ? murdred took place in mexico as gallo had been deported from canada.
ordered by:VR

9.dec.18 2013-roger valiquette
allied w/ RCF,tonino callochia,stefano sollecito.
ordered by:VR/s.sollecito
committed by: marco claudio campellone
-most likely committed because of large debts owed to valiquette by both callochia and sollecito.
Posted By: mike68

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/20/22 04:17 PM

Vito's revenge tour was the most interesting part of the war, if you can call multiple murders interesting. Callochia was then whacked by the Rizzuto's correct? Why did they turn on him after he did work for their side?
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/20/22 05:29 PM

Mistrial declared in case involving the murders of Montreal Mafia leaders
https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...ng-the-murders-of-montreal-mafia-leaders

Le procès de Jonathan Massari avorte
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...le-proces-de-jonathan-massari-avorte.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/20/22 11:04 PM

^^^^
Crime organisé : Tout est à refaire dans un procès pour meurtres
https://www.journaldequebec.com/202...t-a-refaire-dans-un-proces-pour-meurtres
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/21/22 03:25 AM

Callochia had sided with VR by time of his release in 2012.
Callochia and Roger valiquette had partnered up to control a large loan shark operation. There direct link to VR was Stefano Sollecito.

It has been alleged that callochia and the Rizzuto/Sollecito faction had gone in on a 200kg cocaine import. There was a suspicion that callochia took the whole load or part. More likely Sollecitos debts to valiquette were taken over by callochia. Sollecito as has come apparent in the new book le Source about Andrea scoppa either had no intention of paying debts or saw callochia as a potential leadership rival.
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/21/22 05:03 PM

3rd war
(nov.20 2015-oct.21 2019)
-time period after mass arrests in project magot/mastiff where LEONARDO RIZZUTO and STEFANO SOLLECITO the 2 top leaders of the RIZZUTO/SOLLECITO FACTION (R/SF) were arrested and imprisoned.
-again between VR's death and the nov 2015 arrests there was a period of calm on the streets of MTL. there was however 3 murders that did take place worth a mention.

1.aug.2 2014-ducarme joseph
allied w/ tony magi,leader of own street crew.
ordered by: R/SF
committed by:?
-joseph was the shooter in the NICK JR. hit so more than likely a revenge hit. there could be the possibility that this murder was gang related.

2.dec.1 2014-tonino callochia
allied w/ R/SF,STEFANO SOLLECITO
ordered by: STEFANO SOLLECITO
committed by: salvatore scoppa
-the possible reasons for this hit have been explained above. marco pizzi was at same location of murder and was supposed to also be eliminated but was in the bathroom when shots rang out.

3.sept.18 2015-marco claudio campellone
allied w/ R/SF,STEFANO SOLLECITO
ordered by:STEFANO SOLLECITO
committed by:salvatore scoppa

3rd war proper
1.mar.1 2016-lorenzo giordano
allied w/R/SF
ordered by: salvatore scoppa
committed by: jonathan massari (not shooter,driver),alleged shooter is a paid informant currently testifying in court trials.

2.may.27 2016-ROCCO SOLLECITO
allied w/ R/SF,at time of murder SOLLECITO was BOSS of faction and most senior member on the street.
ordered by: salvatore scoppa
committed by: jonathan massari (not shooter),same informant as above involved.

3/4.june.30 2016-giuseppe & vincenzo falduto
allied w/R/SF
ordered by: salvatore scoppa
committed by: jonathan massari,guy dion and marie-josee viau with last 2 having already been convicted for disposing of bodies.

5.oct.13 2016-vincenzo spagnolo
allied w/R/SF,spagnolo was close to VR and RIZZUTO family for decades.
ordered by: salvatore scoppa
committed by:?
-it has now been revealed that vincenzo was not intended target but shooter was instead looking for his son nicola. vincenzo at time of murder was not involved in a leadership position in faction.

6.aug.17 2016-antonio de blasio
allied w/ R/SF,gianpietro tiberio?
ordered by:?
committed by:?
-possible that murder was over control of rivieres-des-prairies area. at time ANDREA SCOPPA was in charge of this part of the city.

7.nov.3 2017-jacques desjardins (brother of RD)
allied w/ RD
ordered by:R/SF
committed by:?

8.june.27 2018-steve ovadia
allied w/ andrea scoppa
ordered by:R/SF
committed by:?

9.jan.24 2019-tony magi
allied w/ at this point magi would have had few if any allies.
ordered by: R/SF
committed by:?

10.may.4 2019-salvatore scoppa
allied w/ andrea his brother,leader of own street crew.
ordered by:R/SF
committed by:? there was a mention in ongoing trial of jonathan massari now ended in a mistrial that this hit was carried out by "a black" from toronto. those are a witnesses words not mine.

11.oct.21 2019-andrea scoppa
allied w/ brother salvatore and leader of own street crew.
ordered by: R/SF
committed by:?
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/21/22 05:09 PM

33 murders that can be directly related to the 3 wars involving RIZZUTO'S over the course of 14 years. a staggering number in modern day mafia terms.
there was dozens more that took place during the same time period but i am not sure enough on the others to link them to same timeline.
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/21/22 05:26 PM

sorry but a quick edit to my own work the date of murder for antonio de blasio should be aug.16 2017 not 2016.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/25/22 01:55 PM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...mportateur-de-cocaine-lie-a-la-mafia.php

A killing this morning of a guy link to the mafia.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/25/22 01:57 PM

A man was the victim of a murder Tuesday morning, near a business on the service road of Highway 440 East, in Laval. The circumstances of the crime are unknown for the moment, but according to our information, the victim is Vincenzo Armeni, 66, a cocaine importer that the police links to the Montreal mafia, learned La Presse from several sources.
Posted By: Giacalone

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/25/22 03:02 PM

This is a major hit! He was very close to Desjardins and the Calabrians. Lol these guys will never stop
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/25/22 05:08 PM

Known Quebec mafia drug trafficker shot dead outside strip mall

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6628811
Posted By: DanD

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/25/22 05:22 PM

^^^

Man gunned down near Montreal, killing possibly linked to organized crime: police
By Staff The Canadian Press



]https://globalnews.ca/news/9224927/laval-death-highway-440-organized-crime/


Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/25/22 07:28 PM

While he operated as a drug smuggler and trafficker, police believed Armeni was closely linked to Agostino Cuntrera, a Mafia leader who was killed in 2010, likely because he remained loyal to the Rizzuto organization while it was under attack. Armeni was also the brother-in-law of Tonino Callocchia, a high-ranking member of the Montreal Mafia who was fatally shot on Dec. 1, 2014, outside a restaurant in Rivière-des-Prairies.
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/25/22 07:45 PM

in the past there was links between cuntrera and armeni on cocaine imports allegedly.
i dont think when arrested in 2007 there was any mention of the two being connected and have always wondered where that info came from?
also its a mute point cuntrera has been dead 12 years.
callochia and armeni were brothers-in-law...no link as callochia is dead. i dont know where the links to desjardins rumour comes from either???
armeni was in jail from 2007 on. armeni was never on the streets or had any influence on the streets of MTL while imprisoned and never had any current links to raynald desjardins.

now the possibility exists that the two had made an alliance in the brief time both have been out of jail.

in MTL any past connections are just that and i would never assume after everything that has happened that any past alliances still hold amongst some members.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/25/22 08:00 PM

His uncle Giuseppe Armeni died in 2015, he was close to the Cotroni family in particular the Di Maulo's hench the link to Desjardins.
Vinnie Black was only out of prison for 2 years so who knows what happened most of his old associates are gone maybe he wanted to get back in the game.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/25/22 08:31 PM

Victim of Laval parking lot shooting had ties to Montreal Mafia

https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/man-found-dead-in-laval-parking-lot-after-shooting
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/25/22 10:34 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Victim of Laval parking lot shooting had ties to Montreal Mafia

https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/man-found-dead-in-laval-parking-lot-after-shooting


Thanks I said father but Giuseppe was his uncle like this article said a very influential figure.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/26/22 01:24 AM

^^^^
older thread about Vincenzo Armeni and his relatives will be found at

http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=898617

but I’ll post about Armeni’s murder in this mob-war thread because other posters have done so.
Posted By: mike68

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/26/22 04:06 PM

Ok, so who's responsible for whacking all the cocaine importers?
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/26/22 07:15 PM

The evidence established that for the year 2005, Mr. Armeni had in his possession at least 10% of all the drugs seized across Canada for that year and that its quality was one of the purest on the market.

Originally Posted by mike68
Ok, so who's responsible for whacking all the cocaine importers?


Time will tell. The murder of Armeni brings to seven the number of cocaine importers who have been killed in Quebec in the last three years.
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/26/22 10:37 PM

The cops lol just kidding
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/28/22 05:33 AM

L’entreprise de la famille d’un mafieux réclame 1,6 million à un projet du gendre d’Accurso

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...lion-a-un-projet-du-gendre-d-accurso.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/28/22 05:43 PM

Hitman-turned-informant Frédérick Silva can't find a lawyer to represent him
The situation is delaying his sentence for killing a Concordia University student outside an N.D.G. strip club in 2017.
https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...ilva-cant-find-a-lawyer-to-represent-him

Frédéric Silva cherche désespérément un avocat
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...ilva-cherche-desesperement-un-avocat.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/28/22 10:32 PM

Vincenzo Armeni's visitation is at the Magnus Poirier funeral-home location in Laval, as opposed to the Loreto funeral home in St. Leonard that is owned by the Rizzuto clan.

https://www.magnuspoirier.com/fr/avis-de-deces/113077/vincenzo-armeni
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/29/22 04:36 AM

some info on these coke importers.

philipos kollaros (m: nov.7 2018)
allied w/ sinaloa cartel, had a direct connection to cartel. was also part of import group which was lead by steven tello. tello was on a cartel hitlist at one point.
-possible murder over seizures totaling 220kg between 2013-2015. previous arrest june.7 2013 for a $6.5 million cocaine/crystal meth bust while residing in vancouver.
in same arrests was one ritesh thakur who was murdered may.4 2014 in toronto. possible kollaros escaped punishment being imprisoned at the time only being released dec 2017. clearly kollaros,thakur and tello did something to anger the cartel.

michail michakis (m:july.13 2019)
allied w/ philipos kollaros
-had been just released on a 6 month sentence alleged to be a street level distributor.

ray kanho (m:feb.14 2019)
allied w/ ?
-arrested nov.22 2006 in project colisee bust. sentenced oct.5 2009 to 14 years. released jan.21 2015. during the 2006 arrest time would have worked under giuseppe torre in a cocaine import cell at trudeau airport. torre has not been very active lately. also in his past kanho was connected to street gangs but not sure which ones blue/red? and would be 13 years before his murder.

ivan alejandro silva sanchez (m:aug.30 2019)
allied w/ sinaloa cartel,ivan eduardo villaroel not much intell on villaroel.
-sanchez had been seen in investigations w/ gregory woolley and andrea scoppa. possible that he got caught up in the 3rd war between rizzuto/sollecito and the scoppa bros. or hit by the cartel.

piero arena (m:sept.8 2021)
allied w/ franco albanese

maxime lenoir (m:aug.25 2022)
allied w/ sinaloa cartel and lebanese/middle eastern crime groups.
-was a high level importer and leader of a meth production/distribution cell in the danville,estrie region of qc.

can link 5 murders to the sinaloa cartel so i'd go with them.

an interesting mention in an article about armenis murder was that stefano sollecito was once employed there and he had been surveilled during project magot/mastiif 2015 arrest. 7 years ago a long time i know.
Posted By: jace

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/29/22 03:55 PM

How many major gangs are operating there? Cartels, Mafia, Ndraganta, Haitian gangs, Jamaicain gangs, Muslims gangs, it's like a war zone.
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/29/22 06:17 PM

Oh Canada bud...the great diverse multicultural mess from coast to coast.
Let me all In and let them sort it out in the streets.
Montreal Toronto Vancouver to a lesser extent Ottawa full of a wide array of gangs and criminal groups.
Also to point out it shows the Sinaloa cartel doesn't seem to care who they work with in Canada. Just don't mess up...or yer dead.
Posted By: Liggio

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/29/22 07:09 PM

Vito,there's no proof that all those murders were by the cartels quit spreading misinformation, and learn to use words like allegedly, likely, or probably.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/29/22 07:25 PM

Originally Posted by jace
How many major gangs are operating there? Cartels, Mafia, Ndraganta, Haitian gangs, Jamaicain gangs, Muslims gangs, it's like a war zone.


Each provinces has is gangs, just like in the US.

You have bikers:
Hells Angels MC and there puppet clubs
Outlaws MC
Rock Machine MC
Bacchus MC
And many more

Italians:
You have Cosa Nostra and Ndrangheta they are mostly on the east coast (Ontario an Quebec)
You also have italian gangsters in British Columbia, but don’t know if they are Cosa Nostra, Ndrangheta or neither

Blacks:
Haitian gangs in Quebec
Jamaican gangs in Quebec and Ontario
Somali gangs in Ontario
Different african gangs in the Prairies
Black Scotian gangs in Nova Scotia

East Asians:
Chinese triads in British Columbia and Ontario
Chinese tongs in British Columbia and probably Ontario
Vietnamese gangs in mostly all the provinces

Indians:
Indian and Punjabi gangs, mostly in British Columbia and probably a factor in Ontario.

Natives gangs: mostly in the Prairies, but all over Canada.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/29/22 07:26 PM

Lets not forget, criminal groups tend to move and do buisness in other provinces.
Somali gangs are mostly in Ontario, bit you also see them in the Prairies. And its the same with all the other crime groups
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/29/22 07:28 PM

For the many drug traffickers that got killed in the recent years.
I guess nobody know except the criminal world. We can speculate all we want, but everything we say are just hypothesis
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/30/22 12:56 AM

https://www.pressreader.com/canada/the-province/20210721/281539408977705
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/30/22 12:57 AM

https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/man-kill...2437/comments-7.512437/comments-7.512437
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/30/22 12:58 AM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/11/08/un-client-de-el-chapo-liquide
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/30/22 12:59 AM

https://www.gangsterismout.com/2018/12/drug-trafficker-philipos-kollaros.html
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/30/22 01:09 AM

i can keep posting more just about kollaros and the rest of the people mentioned previous.
after reading a wide variety of material on line and elsewhere thats my best guest. a poster asked a question i tried to answer which is what i thought this whole site is about. all the info i posted is readily available on line from journalists and other media i simply condensed what i had read and posted it to answer a question.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/30/22 01:25 AM

It's cocaine that's 'ndrangheta business all around the world they are the biggest brokers.
Posted By: jace

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/30/22 01:29 AM

Originally Posted by Blackmobs
Originally Posted by jace
How many major gangs are operating there? Cartels, Mafia, Ndraganta, Haitian gangs, Jamaicain gangs, Muslims gangs, it's like a war zone.


Each provinces has is gangs, just like in the US.

You have bikers:
Hells Angels MC and there puppet clubs
Outlaws MC
Rock Machine MC
Bacchus MC
And many more

Italians:
You have Cosa Nostra and Ndrangheta they are mostly on the east coast (Ontario an Quebec)
You also have italian gangsters in British Columbia, but don’t know if they are Cosa Nostra, Ndrangheta or neither

Blacks:
Haitian gangs in Quebec
Jamaican gangs in Quebec and Ontario
Somali gangs in Ontario
Different african gangs in the Prairies
Black Scotian gangs in Nova Scotia


East Asians:
Chinese triads in British Columbia and Ontario
Chinese tongs in British Columbia and probably Ontario
Vietnamese gangs in mostly all the provinces

Indians:
Indian and Punjabi gangs, mostly in British Columbia and probably a factor in Ontario.

Natives gangs: mostly in the Prairies, but all over Canada.




Great breakdown. Thank you Blackmobs.
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/30/22 11:58 AM

punjabi/south east asian or indian networks are a major factor in drug importation and distribution in the toronto area.
indian owned trucking firms and there drivers have been busted with multi kg loads of cocaine coming from US and crossing at one of the many border points in southern ontario.
they have had an increasing role in imports for at least the last decade with connections to mexican cartels.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/30/22 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by jace
Originally Posted by Blackmobs
Originally Posted by jace
How many major gangs are operating there? Cartels, Mafia, Ndraganta, Haitian gangs, Jamaicain gangs, Muslims gangs, it's like a war zone.


Each provinces has is gangs, just like in the US.

You have bikers:
Hells Angels MC and there puppet clubs
Outlaws MC
Rock Machine MC
Bacchus MC
And many more

Italians:
You have Cosa Nostra and Ndrangheta they are mostly on the east coast (Ontario an Quebec)
You also have italian gangsters in British Columbia, but don’t know if they are Cosa Nostra, Ndrangheta or neither

Blacks:
Haitian gangs in Quebec
Jamaican gangs in Quebec and Ontario
Somali gangs in Ontario
Different african gangs in the Prairies
Black Scotian gangs in Nova Scotia


East Asians:
Chinese triads in British Columbia and Ontario
Chinese tongs in British Columbia and probably Ontario
Vietnamese gangs in mostly all the provinces

Indians:
Indian and Punjabi gangs, mostly in British Columbia and probably a factor in Ontario.

Natives gangs: mostly in the Prairies, but all over Canada.




Great breakdown. Thank you Blackmobs.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/30/22 12:35 PM

Youre welcome @Jace . Sure there are other organizations that other people from
The forums knows probably more.
Like the lebanese groups in Quebec or others provinces.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/30/22 12:38 PM

Originally Posted by VitoCahill
punjabi/south east asian or indian networks are a major factor in drug importation and distribution in the toronto area.
indian owned trucking firms and there drivers have been busted with multi kg loads of cocaine coming from US and crossing at one of the many border points in southern ontario.
they have had an increasing role in imports for at least the last decade with connections to mexican cartels.


Good to know, thxs.
Are they link with the indian/punjabi criminal groups of Vancouver ?
I guess so
Also, the Wolfpack have made alot of connections with organizations from other provinces
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/30/22 01:44 PM

i dony know if all the punjabi groups are linked together but there have been some recent investigations involving inter province cooperation.
i will try to find info, there was one involving cannabis flowing from bc to ontario for further transport to the US. same bust involved cocaine and tobacco smuggling.
also in some of these cases the transport truck drivers at times are un wittingly carrying drugs across borders. in other cases they are directly involved.
one thing for sure it is predominantly south east asian drivers being busted the most over past 2 years in the western ny/southern ontario corridor. this trafficking route is becoming one of the busiest for cocaine imports into canada.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/02/22 02:35 AM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Vincenzo Armeni's visitation is at the Magnus Poirier funeral-home location in Laval, as opposed to the Loreto funeral home in St. Leonard that is owned by the Rizzuto clan.

https://www.magnuspoirier.com/fr/avis-de-deces/113077/vincenzo-armeni


Updated by funeral home.

https://www.magnuspoirier.com/en/obituaries/113077/vincenzo-armeni
Posted By: jace

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/02/22 04:51 PM

This topic is approaching its 10 year. I wonder what the reaction would have been if one of us answered the topic question back then with the answer of "At least 10 years."
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/06/22 11:15 PM

Originally Posted by jace
This topic is approaching its 10 year. I wonder what the reaction would have been if one of us answered the topic question back then with the answer of "At least 10 years."


Without the Montreal Mafia it would be very boring lol.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/07/22 07:24 PM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...ur-important-du-crime-organise-cible.php

Attempted murder in Laval A major player in organized crime targeted

Francesco Del Balso, a major player in Montreal organized crime, was reportedly the target of gunshots this morning in Laval, La Presse learned.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/07/22 07:26 PM

The events occurred shortly after 9 a.m. near a business located at the corner of boulevard Saint-Martin and rue de Blois, in a residential area of the Duvernay sector.
Half a dozen shots were reportedly fired. The police found casings.
According to our information, after the attack of which he was the victim, Del Balso would have moved to a café he frequents regularly on Bellerose Boulevard in Laval.
Investigators from the Organized Crime Division of the Service de police de Laval (SPL) are on the scene.
Cocaine and sports betting

Formerly associated with the Sicilian clan of the Montreal mafia, Francesco Del Balso was sentenced to 15 years in prison for gangsterism, trafficking and importing cocaine in the wake of the major Coliseum operation carried out by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police in November 2006.

The evidence had shown that Del Balso was one of the Mafia's cocaine import managers at Trudeau Airport and one of the organization's sports betting directors, whose profits are said to have reached more than 26 million in a little over a year, according to a police expert.
In May 2017, while he was on parole, individuals broke into his home in Laval, presumably to kill him. But the mafioso was absent and the suspects manhandled his family members before leaving without fulfilling their contract.
In October 2018, Del Balso threatened TVA journalist Félix Séguin and his parole was suspended for a fourth time. He was then sentenced to one month in prison.
The last time Del Balso made headlines was last September, when Laval police arrested him on allegations of extortion of a priest

But Del Balso was released a few hours later and has not been charged in this case.
According to police sources, Del Balso would today be more associated with bikers than with the mafia. He would be very close to the Hells Angels Martin Robert and Stéphane Plouffe, considered by the police to be among the most influential individuals in Montreal organized crime.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/07/22 07:55 PM

According to our information, the individual targeted by this attack is Francesco Del Balso, one of the most influential mafiosos in the province.

Surprisingly, Del Balso returned to the scene of the crime in the middle of the afternoon. After parking his van at the edge of the street, he went to talk very briefly with a policeman before leaving the scene promptly.

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2022/11/07/laval-fusillade-en-pleine-rue-dans-le-quartier-duvernay
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/07/22 09:05 PM

^^^^
Laval police investigate shooting near home of Montreal Mafia figure

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...oting-near-home-of-montreal-mafia-figure
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/09/22 01:48 AM

Originally Posted by antimafia
^^^^
Crime organisé : Tout est à refaire dans un procès pour meurtres
https://www.journaldequebec.com/202...t-a-refaire-dans-un-proces-pour-meurtres


Pas de recette miracle pour un tueur trop volubile
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-miracle-pour-un-tueur-trop-volubile.php
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/09/22 04:33 AM

It is only a matter of time before Del Balso gets clipped. He has avoided about 4 known hits and probably a few other times he knows nothing about. He is marked for death. I am pretty confident this is coming from Mirarchi. Also remember hearing Desjardin did not like Del Balso at all.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/09/22 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by Scalish
It is only a matter of time before Del Balso gets clipped. He has avoided about 4 known hits and probably a few other times he knows nothing about. He is marked for death. I am pretty confident this is coming from Mirarchi. Also remember hearing Desjardin did not like Del Balso at all.


Also threatening crime reporters and extorting a church lol.
Posted By: mike68

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/09/22 05:23 PM

The weapon can be found in the habit on Sister Mary Margaret's head. Do NOT mess with the retirement stash for the Sister's of Saint Joseph!!!!
Posted By: mike68

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/09/22 05:25 PM

But seriously, is Del Balso on the outs with the Sicilians up there too? Or are the Calabrians attempting to strike for power again??
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/09/22 11:24 PM

Originally Posted by mike68
But seriously, is Del Balso on the outs with the Sicilians up there too? Or are the Calabrians attempting to strike for power again??


Good question I do believe in the past there were tensions between the Rizzuto's and the calabrian Arcadi crew of which the murdered Giordano and Del Balso were key figures.
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/10/22 01:35 AM

I am positive Del Balso is still good with the sicilians as he has been spotted with Leo a Sollecito not that long ago.
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/10/22 01:36 AM

Sorry not a Sollecito I meant and
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/10/22 02:01 AM

OK, Frank Arcadi has been quiet though before his arrest he was the acting boss.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/10/22 03:58 AM

Andrew Scoppa’s take on the relationship between Desjardins and Mirarchi (from ch. 9 of Inside the Montreal Mafia):

“At the end of the day, things didn’t turn out so good for Raynald. I heard he and Mirarchi are on the outs now. You never wondered why Raynald wasn’t put in the same jail as the rest of his gang? Raynald was in Bordeaux with the bikers, while Mirarchi and the others stayed together at the jail in Rivière-des-Prairies and then in Saint-Jérôme. Raynald was the first to plead guilty, alone, without checking with the other co-accused. Supposedly, Mirarchi told all of them, ‘You’re with me or you’re with him.’ And they all followed Mirarchi. They say it cost Mirarchi $3 million in legal fees, especially to challenge the way the RCMP intercepted their texts with Stingray devices in Project Clemenza. And he ended up winning. Desjardins never challenged anything. Strange, isn’t it? When Mirarchi came out, the first thing he did was go make peace with everyone [in the business] for him and his guys. …”
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/10/22 02:57 PM

I don't understand why some on here continue this Sicilian vs Calabrian nonsense.
These past feuds are no longer part of MTL mafia.
No proof that so called calabrians or ndrangheta ever had anything to do with 3 wars in MTL. Arcadi has been quiet since release and i can't think of any evidence showing a feud between rizzutos and arcadi.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/11/22 12:04 AM

Originally Posted by VitoCahill
I don't understand why some on here continue this Sicilian vs Calabrian nonsense.
These past feuds are no longer part of MTL mafia.
No proof that so called calabrians or ndrangheta ever had anything to do with 3 wars in MTL. Arcadi has been quiet since release and i can't think of any evidence showing a feud between rizzutos and arcadi.


Montreal had always many Calabrians Vic Cotroni was a big boss.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/11/22 12:20 AM

You think the Armeni hit and this one on Del Balso are related? It has been just over two weeks since Vince was hit.
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/11/22 12:31 AM

Vic cotroni has been dead since 1984.
There hasn't been an influential cotroni in MTL since the death of Frank cotroni in 2004.
As per the conflicts in the past 17 years it will take time to figure out who is fighting whom. What is clear from reading the source book about scoppa is that the MTL mafia and OC groups in general are extremely cut throat and loyalties from the past mean nothing.
Armeni and del balso have no connection that I know of for working together.
And can think of no reason why they would be at odds.
As another post stated maybe it was the nuns.

The conflicts in MTL cannot be so easily explained as a Sicilian vs Calabrian war.
I don't even know what part of Italy del balsos family hails from and in this context it doesn't matter. He's a prominent criminal in a hyper criminal city I'm surprised more it took this long for someone to take a pot shot at him.
Posted By: m2w

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/11/22 01:36 PM

Del Balso is probably from the southern region of Molise
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/14/22 11:46 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Vincenzo Armeni's visitation is at the Magnus Poirier funeral-home location in Laval, as opposed to the Loreto funeral home in St. Leonard that is owned by the Rizzuto clan.

https://www.magnuspoirier.com/fr/avis-de-deces/113077/vincenzo-armeni



The slaughter of drug traffickers in Canada and the criminal balance between Calabria, Toronto and Montrèal
Vincenzo Armeni, coca broker originally from Ardore, killed on 25 October. Seven traffickers killed in three and a half years

https://www.corrieredellacalabria.i...nali-tra-la-calabria-toronto-e-montreal/
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/19/22 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Hitman-turned-informant Frédérick Silva can't find a lawyer to represent him
The situation is delaying his sentence for killing a Concordia University student outside an N.D.G. strip club in 2017.
https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...ilva-cant-find-a-lawyer-to-represent-him

Frédéric Silva cherche désespérément un avocat
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...ilva-cherche-desesperement-un-avocat.php


Ex-tueur à gages devenu collaborateur | Des avocats se sont manifestés pour représenter Frédérick Silva
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...tes-pour-representer-frederick-silva.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/01/22 09:09 AM

Originally Posted by VitoCahill
a theory...?
sebastien giroux and bernard cherfan being murdered so recently is it possible that someone in OC already knew that silva had flipped?
there has been mention that cherfan helped hide silva when he was on the run and possibly hired him out for "work"
cherfan looks to have been a link to the mafia by way of stefano sollecito.

sollecito is ruthless that much has been established if we are to believe the litany of murders andrea scoppa pinned on him in his book.
also the police in MTL (and canada in general) are not above corruption of any kind. the MTL police have a history of officers dealing with the mafia.

the giroux murder to me is more puzzling.
i'm sure it will not take long to find out.


Meurtre dans un restaurant à Laval
Deux autres suspects arrêtés en Ontario
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...x-autres-suspects-arretes-en-ontario.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/01/22 06:51 PM

Re: Giovanni Presta Jr., a getaway driver in the murder by Frédérick Silva of Sébastien Beauchamp, found guilty of murder

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...ring-hells-angel-associate-in-st-leonard
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...amp/giovanni-presta-declare-coupable.php
https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...n-tueur-a-gages-ecope-de-la-prison-a-vie


Re: Arrest made in the attempted murder of Davide Barberio
https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...er-une-etoile-montante-du-crime-organise
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...barberio/un-suspect-arrete-et-accuse.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/01/22 09:38 PM

^^^^
Police make arrest in shooting of alleged Montreal Mafia member
Gahens Lee Souverain, 23, has been charged with attempted murder in the Laval shooting last year of Davide Barberio.
https://montrealgazette.com/news/police-make-arrest-in-shooting-of-alleged-montreal-mafia-member
Posted By: Jimmybrown

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/02/22 01:47 AM

Canada lovely country
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/05/22 09:00 PM

Nicola Spagnolo coupable de voies de faits graves
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...lo-coupable-de-voies-de-faits-graves.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/06/22 12:18 AM

^^^^
Man with alleged ties to Montreal Mafia convicted of aggravated assault
https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...al-mafia-convicted-of-aggravated-assault
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/07/22 04:03 AM

^^^^
Un proche de la mafia déclaré coupable
https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2022/12/05/un-proche-de-la-mafia-declare-coupable
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/07/22 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Originally Posted by antimafia
Hitman-turned-informant Frédérick Silva can't find a lawyer to represent him
The situation is delaying his sentence for killing a Concordia University student outside an N.D.G. strip club in 2017.
https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...ilva-cant-find-a-lawyer-to-represent-him

Frédéric Silva cherche désespérément un avocat
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...ilva-cherche-desesperement-un-avocat.php


Ex-tueur à gages devenu collaborateur | Des avocats se sont manifestés pour représenter Frédérick Silva
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...tes-pour-representer-frederick-silva.php


L’avocat d'Alexandre Bissonnette défendra l’ex-tueur à gages Frédérick Silva
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...a-l-ex-tueur-a-gages-frederick-silva.php
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/07/22 09:59 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
^^^^
Man with alleged ties to Montreal Mafia convicted of aggravated assault
https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...al-mafia-convicted-of-aggravated-assault


Spagnolo on his way to Boho Bar. The victim described his assailant as "un vieux crisse de riche" (rich old man)

https://blogger.googleusercontent.c...00/49e409a0909e3880be8bc2a247c6f49e.webp
Posted By: Mafia101

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/06/23 05:49 AM

Just catching up reading these and had a few notes.

Originally Posted by VitoCahill

now as far as massari becoming capo we can right off as a translation issue. massari was not going to become a capo i dont even know if MTL mafia uses this term. massari would have become more like a soldier working under scoppa. regardless its a mute point as he most likely will spend the rest of his life in jail.


When the court reporters were asked about it they said capo was the term the witness used in court. Not a translation issue. Not that that helps understand any of it.

Originally Posted by VitoCahill

i think after hitting the streets montagna would have had to take some time to gather a crew around him which he did. the arcuri family,giuseppe renda,antonio pietrantonio,lorenzo lo presti to name the most prominent all joined up with him. but no way that could have happened en masse april 2009. there is no evidence montagna had links into MTL at all prior to being deported. there is a reference to family he had in the MTL area but i cannot find any names to prove. montagna and his small crew did begin to extort pizzo/street tax from some businesses but by doing this began to step on the toes of others in the desjardins group.


There was plenty of evidence he had links to Montreal prior to arriving. His family has lived there off and on again over the years and it's known that Montagna served as a messenger to the Montreal before and after Gerlando Sciascia was killed. There was even recordings between Massino and Basciano discussing Montagna going to Montreal in 2005.


Originally Posted by VitoCahill

3rd war proper
1.mar.1 2016-lorenzo giordano
allied w/R/SF
ordered by: salvatore scoppa
committed by: jonathan massari (not shooter,driver),alleged shooter is a paid informant currently testifying in court trials.


This was carried out by Dominic Scarfo not the paid informant. It was said Scarfo was the shooter and the getaway driver was a accomplice who couldn't be named most likely Massari

Quote
Armeni and del balso have no connection that I know of for working together.
And can think of no reason why they would be at odds.
As another post stated maybe it was the nuns


If I had to put money on it I'd wager it's two separate unrelated events and Del Balso's shooting either came from the Sollecito or the bikers and I'd guess it's over debts he owes. It would explain his sudden and idiotic attempt to retrieve years old donated jewellery worth hundreds of thousands of dollars and the extortion of 5k a week.

Originally Posted by VitoCahill

The conflicts in MTL cannot be so easily explained as a Sicilian vs Calabrian war.
I don't even know what part of Italy del balsos family hails from.


I can't stress this enough!! Theres been those of Sicilian and Calabrese descent on both sides in all of these squabbles and the ndrangheta has never been directly linked to any of it.

I remember a a recording between Francesco and his father talking about these Calabrese involved in a legal dispute with the Cammalleri and Francesco asked his father if these Calabrese were their paesans.



Posted By: Liggio

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/06/23 11:49 AM

Wasn't Francesco Del Baso the one who was in the news for gambling away $8 million in casinos over a few years, and yet you're saying he was broke before his murder?
Posted By: Mafia101

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/06/23 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by Liggio
Wasn't Francesco Del Baso the one who was in the news for gambling away $8 million in casinos over a few years, and yet you're saying he was broke before his murder?


He wasn't murdered. I'm suggesting he may have debts as a theory to explain his sudden extortion attempt of a church and then his assassination attempt months later. Him gambling 8 million at the casino of Montreal was over 20 years ago between 1996-2004. I wouldn't assume anything about his wealth several decades later. Don't forget from 2006-2019 he spent most of that time in prison.
Posted By: Liggio

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/07/23 02:11 AM

Oh, so many have been bumped off over there it's hard to keep track of them all.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/19/23 01:45 AM

The Montreal Mafia Murders: Blood, Gore, Cannolis, and Hockey Bags
https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2023/01/the-montreal-mafia-murders
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/26/23 05:05 PM

something to add about del balso's gambling. it was done to launder money through casino de mtl. this a very common form used across the world by criminals. using smurfs to also gamble away some money then cash out the rest as legit "winnings/losses". the asian criminal groups operating in vancouver area have perfected this method. the book wilfull blindness by sam cooper explains this money laundering technique in great detail in book.
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/26/23 05:12 PM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...pas-vouloir-respecter-ses-conditions.php

nothing to do with wars but a good/bad example of canadas pathetic justice system. a convicted criminal giving the big middle finger to parole board and challenging them on their attempts at restrictions. nothing less would be expected from an HA lawyer i guess.
Posted By: Liggio

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/26/23 06:24 PM

It is true that Chinese organized crime doesn't get the same amount of scrutiny as the Italians. I would love to see that change.
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/27/23 02:59 PM

out in vancouver and the markham/toronto area they in no way face the same scrutiny. the chinese groups especially mostly because they are not necessarily just criminals. the major chinese criminals are similar to russian criminals of the 1980's and 1990's. the chinese are a mix of criminal,member of the intelligence community,former police or army with connections to communist party and in some cases political parties in canada. a little off topic for this thread i know but the chinese ability to infiltrate levels of power in canada is far greater than the mafias.
Posted By: m2w

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/27/23 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by VitoCahill
out in vancouver and the markham/toronto area they in no way face the same scrutiny. the chinese groups especially mostly because they are not necessarily just criminals. the major chinese criminals are similar to russian criminals of the 1980's and 1990's. the chinese are a mix of criminal,member of the intelligence community,former police or army with connections to communist party and in some cases political parties in canada. a little off topic for this thread i know but the chinese ability to infiltrate levels of power in canada is far greater than the mafias.

are there indictments that proof chinese criminal groups are linked with canadian politicians? I read that minister alfonso gagliano was a bonanno member
Posted By: Liggio

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/27/23 05:42 PM

But Vito, as you said, those Chinese you mention are not just straight up gangsters from the streets, at least not gangsters in the way that we know. They are former police, intelligence agents, or army these guys are or were an ACTUAL part of the Establishment, making infiltration far easier. Most Mafiosi dropped out of 3rd grade, were never cops or spies or military officers so the fact that they were/are able to achieve what they achieved is even more extraordinary in my opinion.
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/27/23 07:26 PM

there is also fear by canadian media of offending anyone or anything to do with china.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/27/23 07:54 PM

Originally Posted by VitoCahill
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...pas-vouloir-respecter-ses-conditions.php

nothing to do with wars but a good/bad example of canadas pathetic justice system. a convicted criminal giving the big middle finger to parole board and challenging them on their attempts at restrictions. nothing less would be expected from an HA lawyer i guess.



Most Western countries have cute laws compared to those of the usa.
The penal system in the USA is more private.

Canada, France, England have not so harsh laws compared to the US.
Sure you got criminals in Canada that will get Life. But the canadian penal system is more about rehabilitation than punishment. And its the same case for many western countries.

I guess we have many people in the forum from Italy. How is the justice system in Italy compared to the US ? Or even Canada, France or other western countries ?
Posted By: m2w

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/27/23 08:38 PM

in italy there is the crime of mafia-type association that is like the RICO and you also have the 41bis that is like the max security prison, hard when it comes to mafia-type groups
Posted By: Liggio

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/27/23 08:55 PM

Sure, America is tough on organized crime, only because they don't want any competition, nothing to do with morality. But that being said, does that make America any safer or better or more peaceful than those other countries you mentioned? That would be a big fat NO! With or without the mob, it's still the same old shitty place.
Posted By: RushStreet

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/27/23 09:08 PM

You ever notice the government only started going after the mob once it started earning serious money through stuff like Unions and stuff the government wants to tax? If gangs did that you would see tons of indictments coming forward on them and tougher laws.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/30/23 11:06 PM

Long read!

THE MONTREAL MAFIA MURDERS
FEBRUARY 2023

https://archive.vanityfair.com/article/2023/2/1/the-montreal-mafia-murders
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/31/23 02:44 AM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Long read!

THE MONTREAL MAFIA MURDERS
FEBRUARY 2023

https://archive.vanityfair.com/article/2023/2/1/the-montreal-mafia-murders


I posted the original link 12 days ago — just go 12 posts back from your post above.
Posted By: mr_white

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/31/23 04:43 AM

If anti-mafia and Hollander beef we'll never have anything good to read left on here...
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/31/23 06:26 PM

Originally Posted by mr_white
If anti-mafia and Hollander beef we'll never have anything good to read left on here...


LOL.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/02/23 03:28 AM

Montreal Mob boss fails to have condition lifted as sentence nears end
Desjardins is serving a sentence for his role in the plot to kill Mafioso Salvatore Montagna. The sentence expires in June.

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...e-condition-lifted-as-sentence-nears-end
Posted By: Liggio

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/02/23 03:45 AM

Funny, I was actually going to ask how this guy ain't dead yet, not realizing he's still incarcerated.
Posted By: Mafia101

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/02/23 03:54 AM

He isn't incarcerated. He was released back in September 2022.
Posted By: Liggio

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/02/23 08:24 AM

Really? So then I'll ask my question, how the fuck is he still alive?
Posted By: LuanKuci

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/02/23 08:39 AM

Who knows what kind of alliances he formed while incarcerated. Plus he’s loaded.
Easy to get people to protect you if you pay them well.
Posted By: Liggio

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/02/23 11:41 AM

I would think that no amount of money could protect him after his betrayal. Anyways...
Posted By: Mafia101

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/02/23 03:05 PM

He's close with the Trois-Rivières Hells Angels and the Montreal Hells Agels are close with the Rizzutos and they don't want a war breaking out. It probably doesn't matter and it's only a matter of time before he is killed. When he was release back March 2021 he was being stalked and police found Rizzuto members information on a piece a paper his bodyguard had.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/02/23 09:24 PM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Montreal Mob boss fails to have condition lifted as sentence nears end
Desjardins is serving a sentence for his role in the plot to kill Mafioso Salvatore Montagna. The sentence expires in June.

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...e-condition-lifted-as-sentence-nears-end


Raynald Desjardins doit divulguer toutes ses transactions financières

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-toutes-ses-transactions-financieres.php
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/02/23 11:54 PM

Leo Rizzuto is a smart boss if they kill Desjardins he will be the number one suspect.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/03/23 12:03 AM

There are more clever ways to deal with him.
Posted By: LuanKuci

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/03/23 12:25 AM

Framing Reynald for something he didn’t do and have him put behind bars forever would be the perfect villainous move. Given Rizzuto’s connections and Quebec wild corruption I don’t see why not…
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/03/23 12:42 AM

Originally Posted by LuanKuci
Framing Reynald for something he didn’t do and have him put behind bars forever would be the perfect villainous move. Given Rizzuto’s connections and Quebec wild corruption I don’t see why not…


Yep Desjardins is too high profile in Quebec, that is his luck they could get to others around him.
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/03/23 12:54 AM

Just my opinion. But nowadays I don't believe that the "Rizzuto" organization is all that powerful or influential anymore. Certainly, they are nowhere near what they once were at the height of their power under Nick, and later, Vito Rizzuto.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/03/23 01:03 AM

Originally Posted by NYMafia
Just my opinion. But nowadays I don't believe that the "Rizzuto" organization is all that powerful or influential anymore. Certainly, they are nowhere near what they once were at the height of their power under Nick, and later, Vito Rizzuto.


I do believe Leo Rizzuto has been building another strong family, in 2019 he was back in Agrigento cosa nostra never dies.
Posted By: LuanKuci

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/03/23 01:07 AM

Considering what they’ve gone through it’s fairly stunning to see them still being considered at the top.
He may not he at his father’s level (yet) but he’s young and had the best school imaginable.
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/03/23 01:09 AM

Originally Posted by LuanKuci
Considering what they’ve gone through it’s fairly stunning to see them still being considered at the top.
He may not he at his father’s level (yet) but he’s young and had the best school imaginable.


I do agree with that. He had two excellent teachers. But as they say, "time will tell!"...It always does
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/03/23 01:18 AM

And he's a lawyer, that's a big advance.
Posted By: Mafia101

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/03/23 01:27 AM

Leonardo Rizzuto might not even be the one in charge. By all accounts the real power lies with Steve Sollecito.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/03/23 01:38 AM

Originally Posted by Mafia101
Leonardo Rizzuto might not even be the one in charge. By all accounts the real power lies with Steve Sollecito.


You could be right, but after Vito Rizzuto died in 2013, his legacy lives on with his son.
Posted By: Mafia101

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/03/23 02:52 AM

Did anyone see his interview when he was arrested? Really sounded like he was regretting the life he chose.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/03/23 05:34 AM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Montreal Mob boss fails to have condition lifted as sentence nears end
Desjardins is serving a sentence for his role in the plot to kill Mafioso Salvatore Montagna. The sentence expires in June.

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...e-condition-lifted-as-sentence-nears-end


Raynald Desjardins devra divulguer ses finances:
https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...-ses-finances-aux-autorites-carcerales-1
Posted By: mr_white

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/03/23 07:05 AM

If Desjardins stays in the game or has no choice, it seems like his relationship now with Mirarchi is the big question. I've read on messageboards that they've had a rift and are on the outs. I dont know if thats true or where it came from...anybody know? Mirarchi had some fanboys rooting for him online awhile ago but I think there were maybe some more academic posts on him as well that traced his family lineage, his clan, etc...or maybe it was speculations or even known facts that he's Ndrangheta. So any move against Desjardins might come from him, if he's really that mad, but in the old days it would have had to go THROUGH him to touch Desjardins..if they didn't really have a falling out he could still be a dangerous, powerful ally of Desjardins in addition to HA, etc.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/03/23 09:02 AM

Italian-Canadian mafia, Dia: Rizzuto clan dominant in Montreal and in liaison with Italy
April 7, 2022 Editorial board Canada , Cattolica Eraclea , Clan Rizzuto , Leonardo Rizzuto , Mafia , Montreal
"During the six months in question, meetings continued with representatives of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) relating to the activities of well-known exponents of the 'Ndrangheta (Commisso family) and Cosa Nostra (Rizzuto family) stationed in Canada who are said to be in connection with 'Italy". This is what we read in the Dia report, relating to the first half of 2021, delivered to Parliament. The report continues: “In particular, the Cosa Nostra would operate mainly in the Montreal areas, while the 'Ndrangheta in Toronto and Thunder Bay. Both organizations are allegedly active in drug trafficking, extortion, usury, gambling, money laundering and infiltration in the public procurement sector. These would, over time, become deeply rooted, taking on prominent positions in the management of criminal affairs.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/03/23 09:14 AM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Originally Posted by Hollander
Montreal Mob boss fails to have condition lifted as sentence nears end
Desjardins is serving a sentence for his role in the plot to kill Mafioso Salvatore Montagna. The sentence expires in June.

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...e-condition-lifted-as-sentence-nears-end


Raynald Desjardins devra divulguer ses finances:
https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...-ses-finances-aux-autorites-carcerales-1


Bad link anti.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/03/23 12:40 PM

^^^^
Thanks for letting me know -- the link was working for me yesterday.

Here's a link to a duplicate of the article (same newspaper publisher):

https://www.qub.ca/article/raynald-...nces-aux-autorites-carcerales-1092711390

And here's a link to the archived version I created via WayBack Machine:

WayBack Machine link
Posted By: Mafia101

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/03/23 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by mr_white
If Desjardins stays in the game or has no choice, it seems like his relationship now with Mirarchi is the big question. I've read on messageboards that they've had a rift and are on the outs. I dont know if thats true or where it came from...anybody know? Mirarchi had some fanboys rooting for him online awhile ago but I think there were maybe some more academic posts on him as well that traced his family lineage, his clan, etc...or maybe it was speculations or even known facts that he's Ndrangheta. So any move against Desjardins might come from him, if he's really that mad, but in the old days it would have had to go THROUGH him to touch Desjardins..if they didn't really have a falling out he could still be a dangerous, powerful ally of Desjardins in addition to HA, etc.




I don't think anyone knows his background or if he's apart of the Ndrangheta. In the trials that have taken place against Sal Scoppa's former underlings the witness described Mirarchi asa Ndrangheta member but that doesn't really prove anything. The source that Mirarchi and Desjardins had a falling out is from Andrea Scoppa in the book La Source I don't think that rumor was out before.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/03/23 07:55 PM

I think the Mirarchi organization is fairly independed, mainly focused on cocaine trafficking. \Around the same time they were arrested for the murder of Montagna, their Mexican supplier in LA was busted by the FBI,
Posted By: Mafia101

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/03/23 08:35 PM

Who was their supplier?
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/03/23 08:57 PM

Luis Carrillo Torres

https://nationalpost.com/news/canad...anadian-truckers-to-smuggle-drugs-police
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/14/23 12:16 PM

In this article about three individuals extorting a victim and collecting on his original $15,000 debt that ballooned to around $675,000, there are minor mentions of Antonio Pietrantonio, well-known criminal lawyer Joseph La Leggia, the now-closed Grinderz in Mile End, and Cafe Danesi (firebombed twice in two weeks in 2009).

Sexagénaire violemment battu | Le remboursement de sa dette négocié par un agent double | La Presse

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...sa-dette-negocie-par-un-agent-double.php
Posted By: Mafia101

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/14/23 10:12 PM

Doesn't say the debt rose to $675,000. It was $15,000 and Roswell to $140,000. It says one of the suspects was arrested with $675,000 and has since had half of it returned to him.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/17/23 02:29 AM

Originally Posted by Mafia101
Doesn't say the debt rose to $675,000. It was $15,000 and Roswell to $140,000. It says one of the suspects was arrested with $675,000 and has since had half of it returned to him.


Merci pour la précision.
Posted By: LuanKuci

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/17/23 11:56 PM

Man shot multiple times after suspect opens fire in Laval restaurant:

https://beta.ctvnews.ca/local/montreal/2023/2/16/1_6277814.amp.html
Posted By: Mafia101

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/18/23 01:49 AM

Not every shooting in Montreal involves the Mafia
Posted By: Liggio

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/18/23 02:18 AM

I was thinking the same thing
Posted By: LuanKuci

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/18/23 07:40 AM

Duh.

But it’s still a suspicious shooting, in Laval, and it just happened.

Sharing it as we wait for more info is what we’ve been doing in this thread since page 1.
Posted By: Mafia101

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/18/23 11:27 AM

Unless they arrest the shooter we won't hear anything else on it
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/18/23 01:11 PM

Originally Posted by Mafia101
Unless they arrest the shooter we won't hear anything else on it


They won't release even the name of the victim unless he dies. All we know is it was a targeted hit.
At the end of january a 77-year-old man was shot in Laval parking lot, he also survived. We even don't know if the man was known to (police).
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/18/23 01:25 PM

And a man was the target of an attempted murder in Laval on 31 December. The victim was shot multiple times shortly before 1 a.m. in the Fabreville neighbourhood, in a residential area. When police arrived on 20th Avenue, they discovered the middle-aged man with gunshot wounds to his upper and lower body.

No arrests have been made in connection with these two cases. But something is going on in Laval.
Posted By: Mafia101

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/18/23 04:27 PM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Originally Posted by Mafia101
Unless they arrest the shooter we won't hear anything else on it


They won't release even the name of the victim unless he dies. All we know is it was a targeted hit.
At the end of january a 77-year-old man was shot in Laval parking lot, he also survived. We even don't know if the man was known to (police).


The police won't release the name but that is almost every police departments policy. News agencies on the other hand release names of people targeted in shootings all the time. This shooting a couple nights ago in Laval wasn't Mafia related.

The 77 year old that was shot in January wasn't known to the police and had no criminal history. Could be a case of mistaken identity but we don't know.

Originally Posted by Hollander
And a man was the target of an attempted murder in Laval on 31 December. The victim was shot multiple times shortly before 1 a.m. in the Fabreville neighbourhood, in a residential area. When police arrived on 20th Avenue, they discovered the middle-aged man with gunshot wounds to his upper and lower body.

No arrests have been made in connection with these two cases. But something is going on in Laval.


There were actually two shootings that night first one in Montreal's Saint Laurent neighborhood where the victim died and later that night in Laval. The name of the Montreal victim was reveal as Chayanne O'Neil Peralta Garcia. He's a known gang member with a long criminal history. The second shooting that night in Laval was not a middle-aged man it was someone under the age of 20. Police haven't said whether these two shootings were related or not the Montreal murder was related to street gangs and the laval one was probably street gang related too.

You're right something is going on in Laval it's called a gang war. The Flameheads Boys gang of Laval-des-Rapides district is fighting against the gang Zone 3 in the Chomedey district. The 24 Gang of Saint-François in Laval is aligned with the Flamehead Boys and is also fighting the gang 2die4 in Laval. Profit Boys or Profit Kollektaz of the Rivière-des-Prairies district in Montreal is aligned with the 24 Gang and Flamehead Boys and are fighting against Zone 43 in North Montreal. 2die4 is aligned with Villeray 99 of the Villeray neighborhood in Montreal.

There are so many more gangs of red and blue allegiance that are allied or at odds with eachother we would be here all day if I named them all. These gang wars have been going on for years and there's no end in sight. They account for most of the shootings we see in these neighborhoods. The Flamehead Boys seem to be the most active its like every week we see something they're involved in reported on.

Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/19/23 03:39 PM

Soupçonnés d’avoir éventé une descente dans un café lié à la mafia
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...descente-dans-un-cafe-lie-a-la-mafia.php
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/19/23 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Soupçonnés d’avoir éventé une descente dans un café lié à la mafia
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...descente-dans-un-cafe-lie-a-la-mafia.php


Serafino Oliverio, alias Sergio Lopez, is considered by the police to be the leader of a relatively independent clan and present for several years in the north of Montreal, where its members own several bars and other businesses.

Why are they called Lopez?
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/19/23 07:36 PM

^^^^
As you wrote above, Oliverio has the alias/aka “Sergio Lopez.” In articles that have appeared in just the past few years, reporters have sometimes written that “Serafino Oliverio” is the alias of Sergio Lopez, but we now know this was incorrect. The Société québécoise d'information juridique (SOQUIJ) database of legal decisions shows numerous cases to which Serafino Oliverio is a party.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/19/23 08:36 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
^^^^
As you wrote above, Oliverio has the alias/aka “Sergio Lopez.” In articles that have appeared in just the past few years, reporters have sometimes written that “Serafino Oliverio” is the alias of Sergio Lopez, but we now know this was incorrect. The Société québécoise d'information juridique (SOQUIJ) database of legal decisions shows numerous cases to which Serafino Oliverio is a party.


Thanks, his nephews last name is also Lopez, maybe they just took Lopez as a family name instead of Oliverio.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/21/23 12:56 PM

Montreal mafia debt collection case study

https://www.gangsterismout.com/2023/02/montreal-mafia-debt-collection-case.html
Posted By: Mafia101

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/21/23 05:38 PM

Copy and paste job from the lapresse article that was already posted lol
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/27/23 05:04 AM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Mistrial declared in case involving the murders of Montreal Mafia leaders
https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...ng-the-murders-of-montreal-mafia-leaders

Le procès de Jonathan Massari avorte
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...le-proces-de-jonathan-massari-avorte.php


It appears the retrial will start later today.

https://www.evernote.com/shard/s229...g3s5BC_HsWoHTwEjyDhY-qxaXPaUXZEF0gzK79zw
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/27/23 08:11 PM

^^^^
Jonathan Massari plaide coupable à des chefs de complot https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...aide-coupable-a-des-chefs-de-complot.php

Complots pour meurtres : un mafieux plaide coupable |
https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2023/02/27/complots-pour-meurtres-un-mafieux-plaide-coupable
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/27/23 10:06 PM

^^^^
“You can’t unscramble scrambled eggs.”

Man who organized hits on Montreal Mafia leaders pleads guilty to conspiracy
https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...afia-leaders-pleads-guilty-to-conspiracy
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/28/23 03:33 AM

^^^^
Man pleads guilty to conspiracy in 2016 Mafia-related murders
https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/man-hir...-in-2016-mafia-related-murders-1.6291707
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/28/23 03:42 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
^^^^
Jonathan Massari plaide coupable à des chefs de complot https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...aide-coupable-a-des-chefs-de-complot.php

Complots pour meurtres : un mafieux plaide coupable |
https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2023/02/27/complots-pour-meurtres-un-mafieux-plaide-coupable


The first article has been updated — same link.
Posted By: Liggio

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/05/23 01:21 PM

I'd like to see a complete list of everyone who died in this war/violence along with the most probable theory behind each murder as far as who was behind it and why.
Posted By: Mafia101

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/05/23 02:14 PM

There's a couple lists like that on reddit
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/07/23 12:36 AM

^^^^
There are some lists here on Gangster BB:

http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=694000

http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=682894#Post682894
Posted By: ForgettableName

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/07/23 01:26 AM

Holy Cow I've been updating this list for a long time, really didn't pay much attention the last year but it's been fully updated, things are heating up this past year, only time will tell what happens next.

Deaths in the Montreal Mafia War 2008 - Present

Francesco Del Balso, 52, Shot At - November 2022
Vincenzo Armeni, 66, Shot to Death - October 2022
Maxime Lenoir, 44, Shot to Death - August 2022
Bernard Cherfan, 42, Shot to Death (Frederick Silva Associate)- June 2022
Sébastien Giroux, 36, Shot to Death (Frederick Silva Associate) - May 2022
Stéphane Dupuis, 51, Shot to Death - April 2022
Domenic Macri, 46, Shot to Death - February 2022
Serafino Oliverio, 69, Shot and Injured - November 2021
Piero Arena, 63, Shot to Death - September 2021
Davide Barberio, 42, Shot - September 2021
Arsène (BM) Mompoint, 47, Shot to Death - July 2021
Frantz Louis, 50, Shot to Death - November 2020
Pasquale (Pat) Musitano, 52, Shot to Death in Hamilton - July 2020
John Clary, 76, Injured in Hamilton - July 2020
Giuseppe Avignone, Injured in Hamilton - July 2020
Giorgio Barresi, 42, Shot to Death in Hamilton - March 2020
Sergio Piccirilli, 59, Poisoned in Prison - November 2019
Antonio “Scratch” Fiorda, 50, Shot to Death in GTA - November 2019
Andrew Scoppa, 55, Shot to Death - October 2019
Vito Lapolla, 72, Shot to Death in GTA, Possibly Unrelated - September 2019
Paolo Caputo, 64, Shot to Death in GTA - August 2019
Eric Chabot, 42, Shot to Death - May 2019
Eric-Francis De Souza, 24, Shot to Death, Possibly Unrelated. - May 2019
Salvatore Scoppa, 49, Shot to Death- May 2019
Pat Musitano, 51, Shot and Wounded in Hamilton, April 2019
Mario Simeone, 61, Shot to Death - March 2019
Mike Di Battista, 43, Shot to Death in Dominican Republic - March 2019
Eliott Blanchard, 35, Shot to Death - February 2019
Ray Kanho, 42, Shot to Death - February 2019
CeCe Luppino, 43, Shot to Death in Hamilton - January 2019
Tony Magi, Shot to Death - January 2019
Yvon Marchand, 51, Shot to Death - October 2018
Alessandro Vinci, 31, Shot to Death - October 2018
Albert Iavarone, 50, Shot to Death in Hamilton - September 2018
Guy Therrien, 53, Shot to Death, Possibly Unrelated to Montreal Mafia War - September 2018
Cosimo Commisso, 33, Shot to Death in GTA, June 2018
Chantelle Almeida, 26, Shot to Death in GTA, June 2018
Steve “The Jew” Ovadia, 45, Shot to Death, June 2018
Samy Kaci Mokaddem, 39, Shot to Death - May 2018
Yu Ling, 61, Unintended Victim of Mob Related Fire - May 2018
Matthew Staikos, 37, Shot to Death in GTA - May 2018
Mario Macri, 44, Shot to Death - March 2018
Tony Elian, 60's, Shot and Wounded - March 2018
Daniele Ranieri, 33, Shot to Death in Mexico - February 2018
Girard Anglade , 40, Potential Mob Hitman Shot and Wounded, January 2018
Jacques Desjardines, 68, "Missing" - October 2017
Simon Giannini, 54, Shot to Death in GTA - September 2017
Antonio De Blasio, 45, Shot to Death - August 2017
Antonino Catania, 72, Suspicious Death - June 2017
Mustapha Danach, 30, Shot to Death - May 2017
Daniel Armando Somoza Guilde, 30, Shot to Death - May 2017
Angelo Musitano, 39, Shot to Death in GTA - May 2017
Domenic Triumbari, 55, Shot to Death in GTA - March 2017
Antonio Sergi, 53, Shot to Death in GTA - March 2017
Nicola Di Marco, 47, Shot to Death - March 2017
Mila Barberi, 28, Shot to Death in Hamilton -March 2017
Saverio Serrano, 41, Shot and Wounded in Hamilton - February 2017
Salvatore Scoppa, 53, Shot and Wounded - February 2017
Anastasios Leventis, 39, Shot to Death in GTA - January 2017
Ali Awada, 28, Shot to Death - January 2017
Daniel Romain, 32, Shot and Wounded - November 2016
Steven Constantinou, 22, Found Dead in Trunk - October 2016
Vincenzo Spagnolo, 65. Shot to Death - October 2016
Marco Pizzo, 46. Shot and Wounded - August 2016
John Ignagni, 33, Shot to Death in GTA - August 2016
Vincenzo Falduto, 30, Dismembered - July 2016
Giuseppe Falduto, 23, Dismembered - July 2016
Pierre Michaud, Late 50's, Shot to Death, Possibly Unrelated to Montreal Mafia War - June 2016
Angelo D'Onofrio, 72, Shot to Death in Case of Mistaken Identity - June 2016
Rocco Sollecito, 67, Shot to Death - May 2016
Lorenzo Giordano, 52, Shot To Death - February 2016
Rocco Zito, 87, Shot to Death in GTA, Possibly Unrelated to Montreal Mafia War - January 2016
Alfredo Patriarca, 42, Shot To Death in GTA - January 2016
Domenico Iacono, 56, Found Dead in Trunk, Possibly Unrelated to Montreal Mafia War - November 2015
Marco Claudio Campellone, 24, Shot To Death - September 2015
Christopher DeSimone, 24, Shot to Death in GTA, Possibly Unrelated to Montreal Mafia War - July 2015
Maria Voci, 47, Shot to Death in GTA, Possibly Unrelated to Montreal Mafia War - July 2015
Tonino Callocchia, 53, Shot to Death - December 2014
Ducarme Joseph, 46, Shot to Death - August 2014
Carmine Verduci, Shot to Death in GTA - April 2014
Roger Valiquette, 54, Shot to Death - December 2013
Moreno Gallo, 68, Shot to Death in Mexico - November 2013
Mathieu Vallée, 30, (Associate of Mohamed Awada) Shot to Death - October 2013y
Daniel Pierre, 46, Missing - September 2013
Mohamed Qazi Ali, 30, Missing - September 2013
Patrick Rivet, 45, Shot to Death - September 2013
Salvatore (Sam) Calautti, 40, Shot to Death in GTA - July 2013
James Tusek, 35, Shot to Death in GTA - July 2013
Jamie Laramee, 37, (Associate of De Vito co-defendant Pietro D'Adamoa) Shot to Death - July 2013
Cody Laramee, 25, Shot to Death - July 2013
Giuseppe (Ponytail) De Vito, 46, Died in Prison - July 2013
William Robinson, 23, Shot to Death - June 2013
Fernando Pimentel, 36, Shot to Death in Italy - May 2013
Juan Ramon Fernandez, 56, Shot To Death in Italy - May 2013
Martin Geoffrion, 40, "Missing" - April 2013
Tonino Callocchia, 51, Shot and Wounded - February 2013
Vincenzo Scuderi, 49, Shot to Death – January 2013
Gaétan Gosselin, 69, Shot to Death – January 2013
Domenico Facchina, 37, Shot to Death – December 2012
Giuseppe Fetta, 33, Shot and Wounded - December 2012
Emilio Cordileone, 50, Shot to Death – December 2012
Tony Gensale, 43, Shot to Death - November 2012
Mohamed Awada, 47, Shot to Death - November 2012
Joe Di Maulo , 70, Shot to Death – November 2012
Pierre-Paul Fortier, 27, Shot to Death, Possibly Unrelated to Montreal Mafia War – October 2012
Frederick Murdock, 33, Shot to Death, Possibly Unrelated to Montreal Mafia War – October 2012
Vincent Pietrantonio, 53, Shot and Wounded, Possibly Unrelated to Montreal Mafia War - October 2012
Tommy Pietrantonio, 28, Shot and Wounded, Possibly Unrelated to Montreal Mafia War - October 2012
Domenico Arcuri Sr. , 79, Died Suspiciously – October 2012
Ben Zaid Moez Ben Ali, 34, Shot to Death, Possibly an Innocent Civilian – August 2012
Marco Lafratta, 24, Shot and Wounded - August 2012
Riccardo Ruffolo, 34, Shot to Death – August 2012
Chenier Dupuy, 37, Shot to Death, Possibly Unrelated to Montreal Mafia War – August 2012
Lamartine Paul Severe, 42, Shot to Death, Possibly Unrelated to Montreal Mafia War - August 2012
Walter Ricardo Gutierrez, 60, Shot to Death – July 2012
John Raposo, 35, Shot to Death in GTA - June 2012
Giuseppe "Joe" Renda, 53, “Missing” – May 2012
Salvatore Silletta, 49, Shot To Death – March 2012
Giuseppe "Closure" Colapelle, 38, Shot To Death – March 2012
Steven Laporte, 39, Shot To Death – March 2012
Antonio (Tony Suzuki) Pietrantonio, 48, Shot and Wounded – December 2011
Salvatore "Sal the Ironworker" Montagna, 40, Shot to Death – November 2011
Matt "Dutch" Garner, 29, Burned to Death, Possibly Unrelated to Montreal Mafia War - November 2011
Einick Gitelman, 28, Burned to Death, Possibly Unrelated to Montreal Mafia War - November 2011
Lorenzo "Larry" Lopresti , 40, Shot To Death – October 2011
Raynald Desjardins, 60, Shot At – September 2011
Antonio Di Salvo, 44, Shot To Death – February 2011
Rita Biasini, 50, Shot At - February 2011
Nicolo Rizzuto, 86, Shot To Death – November 2010
Ennio Bruni, 36, Shot To Death – September 2010
Agostino Cun-trera, 66, Shot To Death – June 2010
Liborio Sciascia, 40, Shot To Death – June 2010
Paolo Renda, 70, “Missing” – May 2010
Ducarme Joseph, 43, Shot At In Suspected Dispute With Montreal Mafia– March 2010
Peter Christopoulos, 27, (Bodyguard of Ducarme Joseph), Shot To Death – March 2010
Nick Rizzuto Jr., 43, Shot To Death – December 2009
Fredrico Del Peschio , 59, Shot To Death - August 2009
Dany De Gregorio, 43, Shot and Wounded – June 2009
Sam Fasulo, 37, Shot To Death - January 2009
Mario (Skinny) Marabella, 40, “Missing” – December 2008
Tony Stocola, 40, Shot to Death - January 2008
Posted By: Mafia101

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/07/23 03:21 AM

Missing Serafino Oliverio November 2021 and Francesco Del Balso November 2022
Posted By: ForgettableName

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/07/23 03:27 PM

I don't always add non-fatal shootings, and especially un-hit targets (Gregory Wooley would be on here like 4 times if that was the case). But since those are both big names they have been added. Not a lot of info on the record high homicide victims from 2021 in Montreal or The October 2, 2022 killing of a 48-year-old found in the trunk of a burning car that is said to be underworld related, if anyone has more info let me know.
Posted By: Mafia101

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/07/23 04:27 PM

I wouldn't consider Wooley's house being shot at a attemped murder to me its more of a message but I understand. By the way Serafino Oliverio was shot in 2021 not 2022. I haven't heard anything but the October 2nd murder but murdering a guy and leaving him in the trunk of a car and burning it sounds like the bikers MO. It's similar to the May 2022 murder of Hugues Leblanc he was found in the trunk of a burned tesla. He was a associate of the Hells Angels and he was killed within a 2 month period where 3 other Hells Angels associates were killed and it was reported they were all in the drug territory of a certain biker but I think they took that report down.

Unfortunately Montreal Police doesn't reveal names of those who are murdered or targeted to be murdered and the newspapers only reveal the names if it's a known name.

Posted By: mike68

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/07/23 04:57 PM

What's it going to take to have a lasting peace up there? Or is that impossible at this point?
Posted By: Mafia101

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/07/23 06:01 PM

It's not impossible but Montreal is made up of a bunch of different Mafia cells that cooperate together but also do their own thing. Sometimes their activities don't align with other cells and eventually violence will occur over it. There's two dominant groups that are the common denominators in all the violence Montreal has seen. Vittorio Mirarchi and the Rizzutos. From 2009-2011 Vittorio Mirarchi was in the center of it working under/with Raynald Desjardins trying to take out the Rizzutos. Then in 2016-2019 we saw Sal and Andrea Scoppa try to take over leadership from Leonardo Rizzuto and Stefano Sollecito and a hitman working for them who turned informant said Vittorio Mirarchi was behind the scenes pulling the strings.

Even though we have seen periods of peace like we currently are seeing I think if Montreal wishes to achieve long term peace the Rizzutos or Vittorio Mirarchi must go. Either a long prison sentence or taken out. Those are the only two options I see but in my opinion Vittorio Mirarchi is the one that has to go. The Rizzutos are too entrenched in Montreal just look at how hard they were hit in 2009-2011 and how well they recovered. They aren't at the height they once were but they are considered the strongest group again. If Vittorio Mirarchi went away for a long time or was taken out I don't think another strong leader would emerge out of his group or have the same ambitions as Vittorio Mirarchi does. I could see his group even splinter off into other groups or into their own little groups.

We have yet to see if Raynald Desjardins is willing to reignite the feud since his release. But he's a dead man walking either way.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/11/23 08:42 AM

I thought they had the story where Mirarchi and the Rizzuto faction teamed up around the time Desjardins was supposed to get the first time? So was that not true?
Posted By: Mafia101

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/11/23 10:09 PM

Never saw that. After Sal and Andrea Scoppa were killed he made nice again but I haven't heard of any Rizzuto and Mirarchi alliance
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/12/23 04:46 AM

In 2022 private security around Leonardo Rizzuto and Stefano Sollecito has been reinforced. Both men have been warned by cops, with Sollecito being a prime target. They said Sollecito has lost favor with his cohorts at the top table.

Woolley was also told by cops to be on his guard. Rounding out the cop warnings is to Vittorio Mirarchi, a rising star of the Calabrians.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/13/23 08:43 PM

Man sentenced to 25 years for role in Mafia-related murders

https://www.iheartradio.ca/cjad/man...role-in-mafia-related-murders-1.19365864
Posted By: ForgettableName

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/13/23 09:19 PM

Already served 3.5 years, and 9.5 to go until he gets parole, so 13 years for 4 murders. Truly not hard to see why the only thing that knocks off mobsters up there in Canada is death, just really no consequences. I mean Rabih "Robby" Alkhalil was basically one of the top dogs in all of Canada and poof, escaped their "max" prison and is likely gone for good. Just crazy how lenient it gets up there. Makes for good reading at least.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/13/23 10:56 PM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Man sentenced to 25 years for role in Mafia-related murders

https://www.iheartradio.ca/cjad/man...role-in-mafia-related-murders-1.19365864


Jonathan Massari condamné à 25 ans
« Il a détruit ma foi en Dieu »
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...i-condamne-a-25-ans-d-emprisonnement.php

Man who plotted murders of Mafia leaders sentenced to 25-year prison term
https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...leaders-sentenced-to-25-year-prison-term
Posted By: Benballer

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/14/23 07:23 PM

Not
Originally Posted by ForgettableName
Already served 3.5 years, and 9.5 to go until he gets parole, so 13 years for 4 murders. Truly not hard to see why the only thing that knocks off mobsters up there in Canada is death, just really no consequences. I mean Rabih "Robby" Alkhalil was basically one of the top dogs in all of Canada and poof, escaped their "max" prison and is likely gone for good. Just crazy how lenient it gets up there. Makes for good reading at least.

Definitely not lenient in canada. Rabih was serving a life sentence and he was heading to court for another murder trial the day he escaped . He wasn’t at the supermax they’ll put him if they ever find him again. Hes a criminal mastermind and clearly a super savage and super wealthy. He has direct link to cartel sources. Hope he never gets caught anyways
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/14/23 07:49 PM

Mirarchi is not going anywhere. He carries more clout then anyone in the Rizzuto clan. Mirarchi is the most powerful Italian in Montreal.
Posted By: Mafia101

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/14/23 08:18 PM

Why do you say that?
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/14/23 10:47 PM

If it's true that Sollecito has lost favor at the "top table", we can expect more things to come. His health also taking in consideration he had/has cancer.
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/14/23 11:35 PM

Mirarchi and his guys remind me of Merlino and his guys. Just in a sense they have been together since grade school very loyal following. Mirarchi's guys are very loyal to him.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/14/23 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by vito_andolini
What an incredible article!

Mirarchi working with he Rizzuto's again is also surprising. It shows that the Scoppa's may have been in conflict with Mirarchi's group too. That way, a possible alliance could have been bridged by the Rizzuto's if they took care of Scoppa, and thus continue working together.

The article mentions both Acradi and Del Balso are active again. The cop interviewed mentioned that "Andrea Scoppa represented instability and Arcadi was stability." Wow, powerful statement. I guess the decision had to be made. It was either one or the other. The Scoppa's took care of Sollecito, Giordano and the Falduto's... maybe they had a plan for Arcadi too and decisions had to be made?

Very interesting to see what's to come of this. If the streets remain quiet for a while, we'll know they have their shit together for the first time in a while. It looks more like the "organized" portion of "organized crime" is making a comeback in Montreal.


Francesco Arcadi has not been mentioned lately, but I guess him and Del Balso are still tied.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/14/23 03:14 PM

^^^^
Arcadi's sister passed away in November of last year, and her visitation was at the Loreto funeral home owned by the Rizzuto clan. The one-time former director of the Loreto, Freddy Ruscitti (now retired), was the first to post online condolences.

http://www.complexeloreto.com/en/obituary/giulia-arcadi/
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/14/23 06:41 PM

Originally Posted by Blackmobs
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...n-de-la-rue-de-la-mafia-montrealaise.php

Attempted murder in Laval The victim is "the boss of the street" of the Montreal mafia

A man was shot in the middle of the afternoon on Lévesque Boulevard East in Laval, La Presse has learned. According to our information, the victim is Davide Barberio, considered by the police to be the street boss of the Montreal mafia.

According to our information, Barberio was in the garage of his residence on Boulevard Lévesque Est, near Rue du Tangara, when he was allegedly struck by several high-caliber projectiles in the abdomen.

Barberio, alias Baldy, is also considered by the police to be part of the group of new decision-makers in Montreal organized crime.

According to our sources, he inherited several activities and territories from chieftain Andrew Scoppa following the latter's assassination in October 2019.


Two men charged with attempted murder of man tied to Hells Angels
https://montrealgazette.com/news/two-men-charged-with-attempted-murder-of-man-tied-to-hells-angels

From the article:

Last year, Souverain was charged with the attempted murder of Davide Barberio, an alleged member of the Montreal Mafia. Barberio was shot on Sept. 21, 2021, at his home on René Lévesque E. in Laval and survived the attempt on his life.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/20/23 07:28 PM

Organized-crime writers and podcasters Scott Burnstein and Jimmy Buccellato interview Peter Edwards.

Rizzuto Mob vs Hells Angels
https://youtu.be/b8eOTBUJzig
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/20/23 08:46 PM

^^^^
Peter Edwards reveals just 3 mins. in that Francesco Del Balso is rumoured 1. to have fled to Amsterdam, and 2. to have a large bounty on his head.
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/22/23 07:36 PM

a staggering list to be sure.
but the title needs to be changed. the amount of names on there that have nothing to do with anything relating to wars in montreal is staggering. so organized crime related murders in quebec and ontario may be better. good on ya for tracking all that but there needs to be distinction amongst all these attempts/murders.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/22/23 07:55 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
^^^^
Peter Edwards reveals just 3 mins. in that Francesco Del Balso is rumoured 1. to have fled to Amsterdam, and 2. to have a large bounty on his head.


Interesting in Europe you can hide a long time I don't know if he has connections here. He would need some id's /passports.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/25/23 05:29 AM

Obituary for Pauline Desormiers, ex-wife of Frank Cotroni:
http://www.complexeloreto.com/en/obituary/pauline-desormiers/
Posted By: BensonHURST

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/25/23 10:14 AM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Originally Posted by antimafia
^^^^
Peter Edwards reveals just 3 mins. in that Francesco Del Balso is rumoured 1. to have fled to Amsterdam, and 2. to have a large bounty on his head.


Interesting in Europe you can hide a long time I don't know if he has connections here. He would need some id's /passports.


So if the HA control everything and he FDB is aligned with them
Why is he fleeing the country?
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/25/23 12:25 PM

^^^^
What appears to be definitive, as opposed to rumour, is that Francesco Del Balso had his passport seized when he was arrested at the Montréal-Trudeau International Airport, from where he was supposedly planning to fly to Italy. I’m assuming that he is still being detained so that he can’t try to flee again, with a stronger reason being that he was targeted in the recent drug investigation that mostly involved the Hells.

Apparently he knew for a week after the attempt on Leonardo Rizzuto’s life that his own life was in danger — this is according to what Del Balso was allegedly told by individuals in the underworld with whom he is close, with these same individuals apparently also having encouraged him to flee Canada.

Edit: My assumption about Del Balso being detained was wrong, as he was released per the latest article by Daniel Renaud that will be found at https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...olice-recherche-un-vehicule-suspect.php.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/25/23 01:10 PM

Real estate developer Tinel Timu was shot and killed Thursday morning in Laval. As the case could be linked to organized crime, the Sûreté du Québec will take charge of the investigation.

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...immobilier-controverse-tue-par-balle.php

In August 2021, the building in question, the former Moody factory, was the prey of a violent fire, a month after being sold to other promoters.

In 2016, a Montreal mafia lieutenant, Lorenzo Giordano, was shot and killed at close range in the parking lot of Laval's Carrefour Multisports, which is owned by a company chaired by Tinel Timu's wife and owned by a trust.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/26/23 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia


Crown seeks four-year sentence for Nicola Spagnolo for Old Montreal stabbing
https://montrealgazette.com/news/cr...icola-spagnolo-for-old-montreal-stabbing
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/26/23 07:17 PM

^^^^
La poursuite demande quatre ans de pénitencier pour Nicola Spagnolo
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-de-penitencier-pour-nicola-spagnolo.php
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/30/23 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
^^^^
La poursuite demande quatre ans de pénitencier pour Nicola Spagnolo
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-de-penitencier-pour-nicola-spagnolo.php


Nicola Spagnolo - "un vieux crisse de riche" - Crown seeks 4 years

https://www.gangsterismout.com/2020/08/mafioso-nicola-spagnolo-released-after.html
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/03/23 01:34 PM

Un bar fréquenté par la mafia est fermé
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...bar-frequente-par-la-mafia-est-ferme.php
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/03/23 05:46 PM

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...ering-organized-crime-figure-in-villeray

Two men found guilty of murdering organized crime figure in Villeray
Months before he was killed, Frantz Louis was seen meeting with two Hells Angels and other organized crime figures at a park in Laval.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/03/23 05:53 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment
https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...ering-organized-crime-figure-in-villeray

Two men found guilty of murdering organized crime figure in Villeray
Months before he was killed, Frantz Louis was seen meeting with two Hells Angels and other organized crime figures at a park in Laval.


Ciment,

Sorry for my delay in welcoming you back -- an oversight on my part. Please accept my apologies.

I'm going to cross-post your link to the "Montreal Haitian gangs" thread, as I also want to include there the La Presse article just recently published.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/03/23 06:01 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Originally Posted by Ciment
https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...ering-organized-crime-figure-in-villeray

Two men found guilty of murdering organized crime figure in Villeray
Months before he was killed, Frantz Louis was seen meeting with two Hells Angels and other organized crime figures at a park in Laval.


Ciment,

Sorry for my delay in welcoming you back -- an oversight on my part. Please accept my apologies.

I'm going to cross-post your link to the "Montreal Haitian gangs" thread, as I also want to include there the La Presse article just recently published.


Antimafia,

No problem, thanks happy to hear from you also. I always appreciated your contribution and views from your posts.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/03/23 06:12 PM

^^^^
You're very welcome, Ciment.

After you left, I came to appreciate even more your contributions and viewpoints, as my thinking about this stuff started evolving several years ago and continues to evolve -- and that largely comes from entertaining other people's opinions, including those of one's fellow posters on an organized-crime forum.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/05/23 12:42 AM

https://www.globaldomainsnews.com/sainte-therese-olivier-primeaus-pizzeria-vandalized

Sainte-Therese | Olivier Primeau’s pizzeria vandalized
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/05/23 12:43 AM

https://www.globaldomainsnews.com/laval-olivier-primeaus-condo-targeted-by-gunfire

Laval | Olivier Primeau’s condo targeted by gunfire
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/05/23 12:58 AM

Originally Posted by antimafia
^^^^
You're very welcome, Ciment.

After you left, I came to appreciate even more your contributions and viewpoints, as my thinking about this stuff started evolving several years ago and continues to evolve -- and that largely comes from entertaining other people's opinions, including those of one's fellow posters on an organized-crime forum.


100% I thought Ciment had died or in prison LOL. Glad he's back.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/05/23 04:02 PM

https://www.globaldomainsnews.com/s...zzeria-targeted-again-a-suspect-arrested

Sainte-Therese | Olivier Primeau’s pizzeria targeted again, a suspect arrested.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/05/23 10:48 PM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...-suspect-arrete-est-lie-aux-gangs-de-rue

Olivier Primeau still targeted by a Molotov cocktail: the arrested suspect is linked to one of the most violent street gangs in Montreal


Jean-Richard Émile, alias "ti-doigt", is accused of having started an arson attack with danger to human life at the Slice Gang pizzeria. This is also the second time in as many days that the establishment has been targeted by a Molotov cocktail. The gang with which he is affiliated, Zone 43, is established in Montreal North and refers to the 43 bus which serves this sector of the island. It is reputed to be one of the most violent in Montreal. The group of red allegiance is notably at the origin of the murder of Jean Romel Victor, who died in atrocious circumstances at the prison of Rivière-des-Prairies in September 2013.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/05/23 11:01 PM

https://www.globaldomainsnews.com/s...izzeria-targeted-again-a-suspect-charged

Sainte-Therese | Olivier Primeau’s pizzeria targeted again, a suspect charged.



The files of the two attacks on the pizzeria were later transferred to the SQ, it is added. The Major Crimes Investigation Division will continue the investigation.Certain elements collected during the investigation lead us to believe that there could be links with organized crime,” reports the SQ.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/06/23 10:48 PM

https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/getaway-driver-in-mob-hit-not-allowed-on-montreal-island

Getaway driver in Mob hit not allowed on Montreal Island
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/07/23 10:38 AM

It’s even worse than we thought.

Des acteurs importants de la mafia visés à répétition
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...tants-de-la-mafia-vises-a-repetition.php
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/07/23 11:19 AM

https://www.globaldomainsnews.com/sentenced-for-trafficking-80-kg-of-cocaine

Sentenced for trafficking 80 kg of cocaine
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/07/23 11:30 AM

Originally Posted by antimafia
It’s even worse than we thought.

Des acteurs importants de la mafia visés à répétition
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...tants-de-la-mafia-vises-a-repetition.php



Things are heating up again !
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/07/23 11:36 AM

I can not read the article guys.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/07/23 11:53 AM


There it is Hollander.

Important Mafia players repeatedly targeted


Major Mafia players have been repeatedly targeted by mischief, arson or gunfire in the past month in Montreal and Laval, an unequivocal expression of a new wave of tension within organized crime. traditional Italian.
WHAT THERE IS TO KNOW
Two vehicles were burned in the entrance of a residence located very close to that of Francesco Del Balso, formerly of the Rizzuto clan.
At least eight arson attacks, attempted arson attacks and shooting episodes in just a month have been directed against two high-ranking mob bosses, Marco Pizzi and Davide Barberio.
The number of arson attacks would be on the rise in Montreal since the beginning of the year compared to last year.

La Presse learned that the most recent event would have taken place on the night of Wednesday to Thursday, in Laval, in the street where Francesco Del Balso lives, a former lieutenant of the Rizzuto clan sentenced to 15 years for gangsterism and importing cocaine into the wake of the major anti-Mafia operation Colisée by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police carried out in 2006.

Two vehicles were burned in the entrance of a residence located very close to that of the mafia and the authorities do not exclude that the arsonists were in the wrong house.

“Around 4:05 a.m., a call was made to 911 for two luxury vehicles on fire in a house entrance. Our crime scene technicians went to the scene to investigate, ”described to La Presse the spokesperson for the Service de police de la Ville de Laval (SPL), Érika Landry, who did not want to confirm the incident. hypothesis that Del Balso could be the one who was targeted.

Del Balso is suspected of being involved in the attempted murder of Leonardo Rizzuto, youngest son of former godfather Vito Rizzuto, which occurred on March 15 on Highway 440, near Highway 13, in Laval.

He is also the subject of a major drug investigation led by the National Organized Crime Squad (ENRCO), headed by the Sûreté du Québec.

Eight events in one month
Moreover, according to our information and a compilation made by La Presse , at least eight arson attacks, attempted arson attacks and episodes of shootings that occurred in barely a month, between the end of March and the end of April, were obviously directed against the clan leader Marco Pizzi, present in Rivière-des-Prairies and Laval, and the one whom the police consider to be the street boss of the mafia, Davide Barberio.


In Montreal, fires reportedly targeted businesses or vehicles belonging to them, or belonging to relatives, particularly in the boroughs of Rivière-des-Prairies-Pointe-aux-Trembles and Montreal-Nord.

Shots were also fired at a massage parlor on Rue De Lorimier in late March.

In Laval, three suspects went to the property of a relative of Marco Pizzi on Lévesque Boulevard, on the night of Saturday to Sunday last.

They were surprised by one of the occupants of the place and an altercation ensued.

“The suspects then set fire to one of the vehicles parked in the entrance to the residence and stole the other vehicle. But as they fled, two of the suspects in one of the vehicles crashed into a house. They were arrested, ”explained to La Presse Stéphanie Beshara, also spokesperson for the SPL.

The two suspects, Kervens Raphaël and Raphaël Massé-Beauvais, both 20, have been charged with arson, possession of a firearm and absconding.

It appears that individuals linked to the Mafia have hired guards to guard their property.

According to our information, the number of arson attacks has increased significantly in Montreal since the beginning of the year compared to last year.

About fifteen of them seem linked to the mafia, according to our information.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/07/23 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by Hollander
I can not read the article guys.


Link to my Evernote item is below. This clipping is best read on a device larger than a smartphone.

https://www.evernote.com/shard/s229...rQV3UxnlYHD4NhvNaAHXL1bL7woyr7dgjCcoWvQA
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/07/23 12:01 PM

Thanks!
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/10/23 10:31 PM

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...nts-different-portrait-in-montreal-court

Family of murder victim tied to organized crime paints different portrait in Montreal court
Posted By: mike68

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/11/23 04:27 PM

So is this another uprising of one group challenging another for supremacy in Montreal? Or is this revenge for the attempted hit on Rizzuto? What side of the aisle are Barberio and Pizzi on??
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/11/23 06:27 PM

hey mike 68.

on the thread currently going on about attempt on leonardo rizzuto i had posted a few theories.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/12/23 01:37 AM

Mike....According to the reporters they have them both on Rizzuto side.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/12/23 11:32 AM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...un-incendie-criminel-par-jour-en-mai.php


Conflicts between organized crime groups, extortion attempts, disputes between vehicle theft rings and debts are setting Montreal ablaze at the start of the year.
Posted By: BensonHURST

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/12/23 12:08 PM

H.O.L.L.Y.
ShiT….

If Canada does away with their mandatory 25 years before eligible for parole law.
The only deterrent presently I place, which I believe only the shooter is the one charged with 1st degree,
Not like RiCO laws where the boss is on the hook for murder if he ordered it.

If so away with that and guys will get out after 10 years give or take
That would be a nail in the coffin for the Govt to fight OC with any sort of success.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/16/23 11:29 PM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...nte-de-l-un-des-fils-de-moreno-gallo.php


The victim is the spouse of one of Moreno Gallo's sons
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/16/23 11:30 PM

The victim is the spouse of one of Moreno Gallo's sons

The woman shot dead while driving, in the middle of rush hour on Tuesday afternoon, in the Côte-des-Neiges sector, is the spouse of one of the sons of the late Calabrian mafioso Moreno Gallo, La Presse learned.

The victim, Claudia Iacono, was driving her car when she was shot before hitting a building on Jean-Talon Street, near Savane Street, at about 4:30 p.m.

Called to the scene, the police then found that the woman had been hit by at least one firearm projectile.

According to our information, the victim was the spouse of Anthony Gallo, son of Moreno Gallo.

It seems, according to our information, that the victim was followed by the killer or killers. Witnesses reportedly saw a suspect flee on foot.

Major Crimes investigators from the City of Montreal Police Service will have to determine whether the victim was the one targeted.

If this is the case, it is very rare for the wife of an individual related to organized crime to be the victim of murder.

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...nte-de-l-un-des-fils-de-moreno-gallo.php
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/16/23 11:36 PM

https://www.journaldequebec.com/2023/05/16/montreal-une-femme-tuee-par-balle-alors-quelle-conduisait

Montreal: a woman shot dead while driving
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/17/23 12:03 AM

They have gone out of control. Now any organized crime figure's wife is a shooting target. What's next children.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/17/23 12:45 AM

Originally Posted by Ciment
They have gone out of control. Now any organized crime figure's wife is a shooting target. What's next children.


A new low sad but the stakes are high, it's a billion dollar industry.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/17/23 01:03 AM

I read Moreno Gallo's wife was abducted in 2019.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/17/23 01:08 AM

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...-widow-of-a-montreal-mafia-figure-report

Yes she was. kidnapped
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/17/23 02:01 PM

One of the hitters??

Man found dead in Montreal parking lot hours after fatal shooting in Côte-des-Neiges

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6845974
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/17/23 02:22 PM

Woman shot dead in her car in Côte-des-Neiges in broad daylight
https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...car-in-cote-des-neiges-in-broad-daylight
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/17/23 04:06 PM

Daughter-in-law of Montreal Mafia figure shot dead in parking lot
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/woman-shot-dead-montreal-1.6845655
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/17/23 04:28 PM

Most families that have Iacono as a last name in Montreal are of Sicilian origin from Rizzuto's home town. The fact that she is a woman also is not the first to be shot at. . Rita Biasini, Magi's spouse survived an attempt back on Feb.18, 2011. She was driving her car and she was shot at whenn she stopped at a corner..
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/17/23 04:33 PM

There was a Domenico Iacono that was killed on Oct. 2015. Don't know if they are related.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/17/23 05:07 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment
Most families that have Iacono as a last name in Montreal are of Sicilian origin from Rizzuto's home town. The fact that she is a woman also is not the first to be shot at. . Rita Biasini, Magi's spouse survived an attempt back on Feb.18, 2011. She was driving her car and she was shot at whenn she stopped at a corner..


Originally Posted by Ciment
There was a Domenico Iacono that was killed on Oct. 2015. Don't know if they are related.


Correct on both counts, Ciment. I touched on some of these same points you've made when I started a thread on Twitter about 40 mins. ago. Great minds think alike.

https://twitter.com/CdnOrgC/status/1658871621598294021
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/17/23 05:48 PM

Good one ! clap
Posted By: ralphie_cifaretto

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/17/23 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Originally Posted by Ciment
They have gone out of control. Now any organized crime figure's wife is a shooting target. What's next children.


A new low sad but the stakes are high, it's a billion dollar industry.


Exactly sir. The stakes couldn't be higher!! I applaud them for taking her out
Posted By: Mafia101

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/17/23 06:34 PM

What's wrong with you Ralphie
Posted By: ralphie_cifaretto

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/17/23 06:35 PM

Originally Posted by Mafia101
What's wrong with you Ralphie


Don't get me wrong, I feel for the family but if you look at it from a gangster's view then this is brilliant. Shit like this sends a message!!
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/17/23 06:35 PM

Assassination of Claudia Iacono: "She was indeed the person targeted"

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...elle-etait-bel-et-bien-la-personne-visee
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/17/23 06:38 PM

The murder of Claudia Iacono created a real earthquake in the mafia world, and even resonates as far as Italy, according to Félix Séguin, host of J.E, who is there precisely for the shooting of a future show.

He also confides that it is unlikely that this murder is a mistake on the person.

"She was followed for long minutes before her assassination, she was indeed the person targeted," he says.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/17/23 07:22 PM

What message does it send ? If you go after my woman I will go after yours. Is that what it comes to now.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/17/23 07:27 PM

Originally Posted by Hollander
One of the hitters??

Man found dead in Montreal parking lot hours after fatal shooting in Côte-des-Neiges

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6845974



https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...is-montreals-second-homicide-in-12-hours
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/17/23 08:24 PM

i do not know if domenico and claudia were related. i do know from reports on his murder that domenicos murder had nothing to do with the MAFIA. domenico iacono was not in the MAFIA. his murder has long been shown on various lists as being part of the many mtl mafia wars. it should not be counted as such. i would also hope that some on here are not still trying to push a sicilian v. calabrian narrative. this may have been the case in the 70's or 80's in mtl but it is not the case now or since. these various mafia groups, cells, families what have you are warring over money and territory.
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/17/23 08:26 PM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-plaide-coupable-d-homicide-involontaire

there is the latest update on man charged and reason for committing murder.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/17/23 08:47 PM

Originally Posted by VitoCahill
i would also hope that some on here are not still trying to push a sicilian v. calabrian narrative. this may have been the case in the 70's or 80's in mtl but it is not the case now or since. these various mafia groups, cells, families what have you are warring over money and territory.


Yes these people now are second or even third generation they are all Canadians.
Posted By: DanD

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/17/23 09:10 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Originally Posted by Ciment
Most families that have Iacono as a last name in Montreal are of Sicilian origin from Rizzuto's home town. The fact that she is a woman also is not the first to be shot at. . Rita Biasini, Magi's spouse survived an attempt back on Feb.18, 2011. She was driving her car and she was shot at whenn she stopped at a corner..


Originally Posted by Ciment
There was a Domenico Iacono that was killed on Oct. 2015. Don't know if they are related.


Correct on both counts, Ciment. I touched on some of these same points you've made when I started a thread on Twitter about 40 mins. ago. Great minds think alike.

https://twitter.com/CdnOrgC/status/1658871621598294021


Fantastic thread. Great job.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/17/23 10:11 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...nte-de-l-un-des-fils-de-moreno-gallo.php


The victim is the spouse of one of Moreno Gallo's sons


Targeting a woman would go against 'unwritten rules' of Montreal's organized crime
https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/targeti...-of-montreal-s-organized-crime-1.6402793
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/17/23 10:21 PM

^^^^
Brazen daylight murder of Montreal salon owner shows ‘arrogance’ of Mafia: expert - The Globe and Mail
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/can...montreal-salon-owner-shows-arrogance-of/
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/17/23 10:23 PM

Everyone is talking about unwritten rules, no women etc
The mob don’t kill women if they stay on the side and play there role.
But I would think that if a woman wan’t to be in the game, like in the game…. Well i guess bullets aint’t got no gender.
If the hitmen really waited for her outside of her beauty saloon… and don’t think the hit was about sending a message to the husband.
The peoples know why she got hit, and I don’t think it was just to send a message.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/17/23 10:35 PM

Her father-in-law was gunned down in Acapulco 10 years ago. This is like Mexico, journalists, lawyers are also not safe we have seen how drug trafficking has an impact on regular society, like I said we are talking about billions of dollars.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/17/23 10:49 PM

https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/30-cars-set-ablaze-montreal-164601035.html

'Probably organized crime': Montreal police probe wave of arsons, extortion attempts
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/17/23 11:23 PM

You are dealing with unscrupulous people here, not everybody but plenty.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/17/23 11:29 PM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2015/09/08/comment-la-pegre-a-deja-infiltre-la-bourse

I dug out an 2015 article which I don't think has anything to do with her death ; but it does show her and her husband involved with underworld infiltration in the stock market. Maybe this shooting could of been about some other deal her and her husband may have been involved and not about the going feud. This is just based on speculation.

How the underworld has already infiltrated the stock market


ANTHONY GALLO
Son of Montreal mobster Moreno Gallo.
He is presented to the AMF as the business partner of Tony Papa by the financier Jean-François Amyot, sued by the AMF.
Anthony Gallo and his wife were assessed $488,000 by Revenue Canada in 2011 for trading in penny stocks .
In a testimony to the AMF, Michel Demontigny says he places Tony Papa and Anthony Gallo "at the top" in the hierarchy of stock market promoters of penny stocks . “Tony Dad, he's been doing this for 25 years, then, you know, he knows all the tricks of the system”. (...) "It is certain that they pay higher cuts to people in the middle, you know, since the young Anthony Gallo is with him, (...) it is certain that it is necessary that he pays royalties to someone.”
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/17/23 11:59 PM

i will give a different take here than on the other thread and it has to do with a post above by blackmobs. i wont go back on my claim where i dont think iacono was a female mafia leader or "godmother" of any kind. but what if this murder has no connection to the mafia in mtl at all? as i stated previous the gallo family has been consistently under attack since murder of moreno gallo. presumably from one or several mafia/OC groups in mtl. the sons anthony and moreno jr. have no criminal record, have been linked to no specific influential member or group denoting protection. what if this family through desperation got mixed up with another OC group for protection? perhaps a cartel? there is no precedent in mtl for murdering women i think we can all agree on that. one case against tony magis wife in 2011. but she survived in what was most likely a mistake. cartels however do not have a rule book (i would also argue the mafia has none either). now before everyone gets excited like last time i dared to blame a mexican cartel for a possible murder in mtl...this is just a theory. i will name not these sacred cartels that we cannot blame for anything even in speculation or hypothesis.

we can agree that mexican cartels have a presence in both ontario and quebec. not every group in mtl gets all there drugs from the same HA/MAFIA source. most comes up through ontario after crossing u.s. border in a semi truck. i digress.

if through some act of desperation this family were involved in even financing a load of drugs and that load was seized, as many have been lately who would they turn to in the melieu for protection? after years of being persona non grata.

i repeat just a theory, hypothesis.
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/18/23 12:03 AM

i will add further the murder of iacono in no way fits into the possible rizzuto v del balso feud. the gallo/iacono family are certainly not allied with rizzuto that is for sure. del balso is now consistently being grouped in with the HA and barely ref'd as a mafia member at all.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/18/23 02:05 AM

Your theory Vito is plausible. Nothing to laugh about. It's when I read the 2015 article that I posted and their involvement in the stock market; that gave me the idea that they might of been involved in another deal or scheme that went bad.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/18/23 12:36 PM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-sac-de-plastique-au-coeur-du-proces.php

A plastic bag at the heart of the trial. This banal object is the centerpiece of the Crown in the trial of Joshua Sarroino, accused of having coldly murdered a man in the middle of a restaurant at the DIX30 shopping center in 2019.

https://www.iheartradio.ca/boom/boo...-a-brossard-un-suspect-arrete-1.16923408

Fraud
According to the Sûreté du Québec, the investigation showed that Joshua Sarroino could have played an important role within a criminal organization established in Quebec, very active in a “grandparents” type fraud scheme .

The organization's goal was to collect lists of names of seniors residing in the United States and distribute them to members of the organization for a fee per name.

Subsequently, these people were contacted as part of a "Grandparents" type fraud scheme, that is, to request an urgent payment to help a supposed family member.

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...nte-de-fraudeurs-dirigee-de-montreal.php
The Sûreté du Québec and several American police forces on Wednesday struck a criminal network directed from Montreal which would have controlled a traveling troop of fraudsters specializing in “grandparent” type scams in the United States. La Presse was able to note that the investigators had notably searched the residence of Francesco Sollecito, brother of Stefano Sollecito. The latter was until recently considered by several police sources as the head of the Sicilian clan of the Montreal mafia.
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/18/23 01:53 PM

https://www.justice.gov/opa/page/file/1037286/download

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...eurs-quebecois-incarceres-aux-etats-unis

2 links to other grandparent scams involving men from montreal, one of which is the brother of bernard cherfan, rony. rony along with his brother bernard are now both dead. bernard in a june 2022 murder and rony in 2021. rony as far as i can tell was not murdered but i cannot find a cause of death. both cherfan brothers have been linked to supporting and hiding frederick silva.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/18/23 02:06 PM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...es-par-un-incendie-criminel-en-24-heures

A business in Saint-Léonard, Montreal, was targeted Thursday morning by arson, the second in the space of 24 hours.

The police were called around 4 a.m. for an arson fire that broke out in the Ciociaro Sports Bar & Grill establishment located near Langelier and Lavoisier boulevards.

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Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/18/23 05:24 PM

^^^^
Who's torching cars, restaurants and businesses across Montreal?
https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...staurants-and-businesses-across-montreal

Voici ce que cache la vague d’incendies criminels dans le grand Montréal
https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...cendies-criminels-dans-le-grand-montreal
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/18/23 05:26 PM

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...staurants-and-businesses-across-montreal

Who's torching cars, restaurants and businesses across Montreal?

More than 50 cars and five businesses set ablaze at 18 separate locations in last month
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/18/23 05:29 PM

Hi Antimafia,

Here we are thinking alike again. We posted the same article. wink
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/18/23 06:14 PM

^^^^
Great minds and all that. lol lol
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/18/23 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment
https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...staurants-and-businesses-across-montreal

Who's torching cars, restaurants and businesses across Montreal?

More than 50 cars and five businesses set ablaze at 18 separate locations in last month


'Probably organized crime': Montreal police probe wave of arsons, extortion attempts
https://montreal.citynews.ca/2023/05/18/probably-organized-crime-montreal-police/
Posted By: Giacalone

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/18/23 07:28 PM

Jesus this city has gone fucking mad lol. Whether she was involved or not, killing a woman is definitely a new low
Posted By: LuanKuci

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/18/23 07:52 PM

if she’s involved then I don’t see why shouldn’t she be hit like any other guy

women have been active in OC in Italy a lot, and some were taken out in a similar fashion

Posted By: Giacalone

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/18/23 08:22 PM

I guess it depends on what she's actually done. If her only crime is laundering money then I fail to see the upside
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/18/23 08:39 PM

https://themobmuseum.org/blog/top-5-women-of-organized-crime/

TOP 5 WOMEN OF ORGANIZED CRIME
MEN HAVE LONG GOVERNED THE MOB WORLD BUT THE GENDER GAP HAS NARROWED WITH RISE OF FEMALE BOSSES IN ITALY

In most cases the women that got involved, their brother or father ,dead or in prison , held a high ranking job.
I doubted that Claudia did. This is why I don't think it was a contract killing. She may have been involved in something else or owed money to someone.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/19/23 01:23 PM

Sober reminder from Antonio Nicaso on Twitter earlier this morning:

Antonio Nicaso @AntonioNicaso

Mafiosi show no mercy towards women. Over the past six years, at least three women have fallen victim to deadly ambushes in Canada, directly associated with organized crime activities. In Italy, over 150 women have been killed by mafia organizations since the late 19th century.

3:44 AM · May 19, 2023

https://twitter.com/AntonioNicaso/status/1659464922995085312?s=20
Posted By: Malavita

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/19/23 01:51 PM

The Corsican Mafia killed a woman 10 years ago : Marie-Jeanne Bozzi.

She was the sister of a Corsican Boss who had a feud with another clan. She was a politician but she was also handling some of the businesses of the clan and was even an accomplice in the murder attempt of the rival Boss. I guess the rival clan thought she was fair game after that.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/19/23 02:54 PM

https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna39724114

Some women have been killed by their own partner or family as depicted in this 2010 article.

Cops: Female mafia informant dissolved in acid
A mafia informant who disappeared nearly a year ago was tortured and her body dissolved in acid by her former partner and other family members angry that she had cooperated with authorities, Italian police said Monday.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/19/23 03:03 PM

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/children-murdered-mafia-italian-mobsters-3402712

Not only do they kill women but also children.

EXCLUSIVE: Children murdered by the Mafia as Italian mobsters sink to new low.

In a 2014 article: Domenico is the latest of 80 children killed in Mafia hits. More than 800 adults who had no involvement in the feuds have also been murdered, all just “collateral damage” in a violent war for mob supremacy in crime-ridden cities like Naples.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/20/23 10:21 AM

Escalade à l'horizon
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/.../crime-organise/escalade-a-l-horizon.php

La nébuleuse montréalaise
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...e-organise/la-nebuleuse-montrealaise.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/20/23 10:27 AM

Intriguing tweet earlier this morning by Milan-based journalist Antonio Talia, who has spent time in Canada:

Antonio Talia @AntonioTalia

In Canada gli equilibri criminali sono sempre più precari. Secondo alcune voci potrebbe già essere scattata la ritorsione per l’omicidio di Claudia Iacono, uccisa a Montréal 3 giorni fa. Iacono era la nuora del boss mafioso di origini calabresi Moreno Gallo.

2023-05-20, 5:52 AM

https://twitter.com/antoniotalia/status/1659859718586630144?s=46&t=ec5JjzW4kIbijwKywCiI0w
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/20/23 11:56 AM



Finally we see the big picture which I suspected all along but need to see if Ontario Ndrangheta was involved. Robert Barletta involvement clarifies it.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/20/23 12:43 PM



These articles also clarify the Wooley situation and possibly the killing of Mario Macri in Lasalle. Very interesting. It now seems evident on who the feuding parties are.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/20/23 12:49 PM

Anti Mafia

I read an article once about Domenico Violi saying something about together with the biker he controls Hamilton. I think it was the Globe and Mail.
Which makes me think about Barletta again. Barletta was also linked with the gambling network in Ontario. These are two good articles.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/20/23 12:52 PM

Vito Cahill

You got your work cut out for the day. Lot's to type about . Your crystal ball just got defogged. wink
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/20/23 01:14 PM

Well look like some Hells Angels could be part of the attempt on the life of leonardo rizzuto.
Well, Del baso is close to Martin robert, and like the news said before, the day of the attempt, del baso and robert martin were on vacation together.

There was the big meeting of all the hells angels of Canada and Martin robert and Plouffe were not present…. What does it mean…. Did the HAs kicked out Robert and Plouffe ? I guess not all the HAs are ok with the attempt assasination of Leonardo.

Also, Woolley and Cazetta are really close with the Rizzuto clan…. We know Woolley will probably side with the Rizzuto.
But what about Cazetta? If Martin and Plouffe really goes to war with the Rizzuto’s…. How the HAs of Quebec will react ?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/20/23 01:40 PM

Yes Cazzetta is close to Rizzuto but he is also close to Sergio Piccirilli and Piccirilli is close to Martin and everybody knows which side Sergio is on. Cazzetta may decide to not get involved. This explains why he retired but his loyalty is to the bikers.I don't think the HA's of Quebec will go against their own. Most likely Martin/Plouffe had prior meetings with the bikers prior to engaging in such a move.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/20/23 01:47 PM

Cazzetta didn’t retire.
They tried to retired him, but he’s now a member of the HAs South chapter.
He’s no longer a member of the HAs Montreal chapter, the chapter of Robert and Plouffe.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/20/23 03:04 PM

Thanks for the info. Blackmobs. Do you know the status of his friend Brunetti is he active or retired ?
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/20/23 03:21 PM

very good point black mobs and ties into some thoughts i've had. cazzetta has moved to south chapter as best evidence suggests. which may mean cazzetta is not allied or on board with what robert/plouffe is up to and requested a move. HA do move between chapters that in itself is not rare but the timing is curious that is for sure.

from the latest la presse articles of this morn one of my theories about who is attacking whom proves to be partially true. theory #2 of rizzuto/sollecito vs. del balso and robert/plouffe. however there was no mention in either article of where marco pizzi and davide barberio fit into this. my theory had included them against the r/s faction.

and still fighting over "the book" just incredible. is it actually a book? at this point maybe a thumb drive. i like the idea though of a ye olde book being moved around and secreted filled with past debts and such. whatever form it holds it is obviously still of extreme value. the involvement of barletta is curious and i dont think conclusively proves 'ndranheta involvement. but again is another intriguing angle to all this.

finally though a statement on pietro d'adamo's status. still considered based in lasalle but now or for some time working with sollecito. so his loyalty can be said to be for the rizzuto/sollecito faction.

more to follow a little later...rainy saturday.
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/20/23 03:25 PM

brunetti only got his full patch status back in 2018 i believe. i would say still active and part of HA mtl chapter.

piccirilli and where he lines up is a question though. i couldnt say either way where his loyalty lies. i know he was once sharon simons boyfriend and worked with cazzetta but that was so long ago seems irrelevant.
Posted By: mike68

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/20/23 07:00 PM

So why did a woman become the target though? Is this Rizzuto saying how dare you attempt to kill me? We will kill anyone, male or female, so don't mess with us?
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/20/23 07:17 PM

Had Moreno Gallo ties to Italy? Why did he choose Mexico when he was expelled from Canada?
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/20/23 07:25 PM

from la source, the andrea scoppa book he states that both moreno gallo and carmine antonio vanelli has business interests down there. perhaps easier to try to get back into canada for gallo. he had been deported in jan 2012 i think and was working on returning legally before his murder.

and i still cant fit claudia iaconos murder into any of this.
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/20/23 07:33 PM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...riminels-dans-le-grand-montreal#cxrecs_s

a good article explaining another side of OC arsons and extortions. not directly related to HA/MAFIA conflict but showing that not everything is indeed related when it comes to all the crimes being committed in the city. some chapters or members of HA work alongside lebanese and middle east gangs as well as some MAFIA cells.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/20/23 07:54 PM

Originally Posted by VitoCahill
brunetti only got his full patch status back in 2018 i believe. i would say still active and part of HA mtl chapter.

piccirilli and where he lines up is a question though. i couldnt say either way where his loyalty lies. i know he was once sharon simons boyfriend and worked with cazzetta but that was so long ago seems irrelevant.


Piccirilli supported the D'Amico's when they were having conflict with the Rizzuto, furthermore he also was plotting Nicola Rizzuto sr. demise back then. The Rizzuto's later put a contract on him. So it is obvious which side he is on.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/20/23 08:20 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...nte-de-l-un-des-fils-de-moreno-gallo.php


The victim is the spouse of one of Moreno Gallo's sons


Online obituary for Claudia Iacono:

https://www.magnuspoirier.com/en/obituaries/117684/claudia-iacono
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/20/23 09:15 PM

Sorry ciment I wasn't clear above. All I meant was piccirilli can't automatically be lumped in with Robert/Plouffe and del balso. His history clearly shows he is no Allie of Rizzuto/Sollecito.
Posted By: Mafia101

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/20/23 10:45 PM

Originally Posted by VitoCahill
from la source, the andrea scoppa book he states that both moreno gallo and carmine antonio vanelli has business interests down there. perhaps easier to try to get back into canada for gallo. he had been deported in jan 2012 i think and was working on returning legally before his murder.

and i still cant fit claudia iaconos murder into any of this.


Her murder is a huge outlier and I don't know what to make of it either. They're saying she was the intended target but I still have trouble believing that. It's such a huge escalation for whatever problem the Gallo family has. The Gallo sons haven't been anyone of importance in Montreal from what I can tell since they're basically never reported on. I don't believe Claudia Iacono's murder was retaliation for Leonardo Rizzuto's shooting. We know the perpetrators for that but even if the Gallo sons were somehow involved why would anyone target the wife of a relatively small player in Montreal?
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/20/23 11:26 PM

agreed mafia101.
an example being the article at top of this page. its got arson, shootings and extortion all hallmarks of MAFIA in mtl. but is being perpetrated by middle eastern and lebanese OC groups. i am not saying iaconos murder has anything to do with those crimes or groups, but a casual observer would simply lump them all together as being just another part of the ongoing mafia wars in the city. even googling some of her relatives quickly reveals nothing even remotely related to crime let alone organized crime.

better sleuths/reporters than us on the ground in mtl will get to the bottom of this in time i'm sure.
Posted By: Gambler007

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/21/23 01:19 AM

Antonio Gallo had a hit on his head in 2015 , mother kidnapped in 2019 and escapes , but dont believe the mob had anything to do with this. Can be simple extorsion from other groups and they are refusing . Her salon was not in Italian territory. Could it be she refused to pay , and threatened to call the cops or something along those lines so they clipped her.
Posted By: Gambler007

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/21/23 01:35 AM

Originally Posted by Ciment
Anti Mafia

I read an article once about Domenico Violi saying something about together with the biker he controls Hamilton. I think it was the Globe and Mail.
Which makes me think about Barletta again. Barletta was also linked with the gambling network in Ontario. These are two good articles.



https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/sophisti...leads-to-more-than-200-charges-1.4736634
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/21/23 02:39 AM

Originally Posted by Gambler007
Originally Posted by Ciment
Anti Mafia

I read an article once about Domenico Violi saying something about together with the biker he controls Hamilton. I think it was the Globe and Mail.
Which makes me think about Barletta again. Barletta was also linked with the gambling network in Ontario. These are two good articles.



https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/sophisti...leads-to-more-than-200-charges-1.4736634


Thanks Gambler 007
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/21/23 02:45 AM

Originally Posted by Mafia101
Originally Posted by VitoCahill
from la source, the andrea scoppa book he states that both moreno gallo and carmine antonio vanelli has business interests down there. perhaps easier to try to get back into canada for gallo. he had been deported in jan 2012 i think and was working on returning legally before his murder.

and i still cant fit claudia iaconos murder into any of this.


Her murder is a huge outlier and I don't know what to make of it either. They're saying she was the intended target but I still have trouble believing that. It's such a huge escalation for whatever problem the Gallo family has. The Gallo sons haven't been anyone of importance in Montreal from what I can tell since they're basically never reported on. I don't believe Claudia Iacono's murder was retaliation for Leonardo Rizzuto's shooting. We know the perpetrators for that but even if the Gallo sons were somehow involved why would anyone target the wife of a relatively small player in Montreal?


This is the only thing of importance that I found it dates to 2015


https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2015/09/08/comment-la-pegre-a-deja-infiltre-la-bourse

ANTHONY GALLO
Son of Montreal mobster Moreno Gallo.
He is presented to the AMF as the business partner of Tony Papa by the financier Jean-François Amyot, sued by the AMF.
Anthony Gallo and his wife were assessed $488,000 by Revenue Canada in 2011 for trading in penny stocks .
In a testimony to the AMF, Michel Demontigny says he places Tony Papa and Anthony Gallo "at the top" in the hierarchy of stock market promoters of penny stocks . “Tony Dad, he's been doing this for 25 years, then, you know, he knows all the tricks of the system”. (...) "It is certain that they pay higher cuts to people in the middle, you know, since the young Anthony Gallo is with him, (...) it is certain that it is necessary that he pays royalties to someone.”
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/21/23 05:05 AM

Originally Posted by VitoCahill
very good point black mobs and ties into some thoughts i've had. cazzetta has moved to south chapter as best evidence suggests. which may mean cazzetta is not allied or on board with what robert/plouffe is up to and requested a move. HA do move between chapters that in itself is not rare but the timing is curious that is for sure.

from the latest la presse articles of this morn one of my theories about who is attacking whom proves to be partially true. theory #2 of rizzuto/sollecito vs. del balso and robert/plouffe. however there was no mention in either article of where marco pizzi and davide barberio fit into this. my theory had included them against the r/s faction.

and still fighting over "the book" just incredible. is it actually a book? at this point maybe a thumb drive. i like the idea though of a ye olde book being moved around and secreted filled with past debts and such. whatever form it holds it is obviously still of extreme value. the involvement of barletta is curious and i dont think conclusively proves 'ndranheta involvement. but again is another intriguing angle to all this.

finally though a statement on pietro d'adamo's status. still considered based in lasalle but now or for some time working with sollecito. so his loyalty can be said to be for the rizzuto/sollecito faction.

more to follow a little later...rainy saturday.



This is precisely why you can't throw out the Scoppa book, just because he says some shit about what being made MIGHT mean up there. The things that can be independently verified are relevant information, his level of vindictiveness notwithstanding... Please don't anyone take that personal...

I asked a question.. would the Hells get involved in an internal Italian conflict, and that I could see it over an economic asset to be gained. It turns out everyone was partially correct.

1. Vito, You had the alliances right.

2. It seems most of the Hells were probably against it.

3. They DID get involved over an economic asset, the Book.

Whooley IS holding them down in street, and there are attacks against DelBalso, Barberio, and Pizzi.
Is it possible he is directing the street campaign on the Rizzutos behalf?


Is D'damo a drug guy? Like the Scoppas were? Or a gambling guy? I'm trying to get a handle on him. If Pizzi is an importer, is D'damo a distributor? Renda said Miriarchi was needed for the imports, I still see him as the key Italian drug operator....


This internal Biker drama is an angle I hadn't really considered. Wasn't Cazettas original beef over some Bikers getting killed by their own, over their reluctance to embrace a more business oriented mindset? And Lou Melu, was that his name? He was killed because he bucked against the drug consortium. An independent importer.

So what? Some of the Hells, decide they should control the sportsbetting in Montreal, with Sollecito sick, and they saw Leonardo as vulnerable?

(Is that why Whooley was shot at? A strategy to weaken the Rizzutos in the street? A message to stay away from the Italians, and stay close to the bikers? Or was that just some mindless gang shit? )

And other Bikers don't want to get involved in a mob war. They did after all, warn the Italians not to take sides when they were going at the Rock Machine. So how does this affect Robert's actual strength on the street? Is he on his own? Exactly what portion of his chapter is with him? If any?
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/21/23 01:39 PM

according to most recent la presse articles woolley is allied still with the rizzuto/sollecito faction. so entirely possible he or those close to him are committing arsons and shootings on their behalf. and as far as the shots fired at what turned out to be his neighbors house that happened after the murder of arsene mompoint. i say this only because there was obviously a war going on between those two from 2019-2021 mompoint murder with both sides losing members. so it could have been a message job and unlikely an actual murder attempt.

d'adamo's rackets are an endless mystery. he was a major cocaine importer according to the charges he faced from proj colisee. one of the imports was for 1300kg in one shot. thats not nothing. there is no good intell on what d'adamo is mixed up in now.

there was a post on this thread or the leo rizzuto attempt thread pointing out that both robert/plouffe did not show up on their bikes for the HA 1st run of the year. the argument could be made it was because the event is heavily under surveillance by police. but robert/plouffe are under heavy surveillance now it appears anyway. so their absence could be telling. this is a mandatory event for QC HA full patch members...let alone the alleged 2 most powerful in province. alas dont look to bikers to even follow there own rules.

sorry i could be of no more help on d'adamo.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/21/23 08:17 PM

I was about to say I thought D’Adamo was a drug guy, but my memory sucks!

Speaking of the Scoppa book, we got a thread on that? I finally got it and read it and wanted to talk about it
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/21/23 08:52 PM

just re activated thread on la source andrew scoppa book see latest post.
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/21/23 10:24 PM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...nous-demandent-c-est-qui-ces-gars-la.php

another good read.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/21/23 11:31 PM

Pietro D'Adamo is a Cuntrera-Caruana guy I believe.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/22/23 01:08 AM

Originally Posted by dixiemafia
I was about to say I thought D’Adamo was a drug guy, but my memory sucks!

Speaking of the Scoppa book, we got a thread on that? I finally got it and read it and wanted to talk about it


D'Adamo is a drug dealer and has close ties with both the Mafia clan and the Irish west end gang. The Gang of the West no longer exists, police say, but traditional Irish organized crime still has a successor. Although weakened, it is still present in the southwest of the island of Montreal and still controls certain criminal activities in the port, according to our sources. LaSalle recently had it's share of arson atttacks. D'Adamo's associate was killed in Lasalle about fifteen months ago, Mario Macri was the brother of Domenico Macri who was also killed. Since Scoppa's murder there have been several attacks on mafia associates, attempted murder and killings. According LaPresse police sources, DelBalso attempted coup on Rizzuto, had the backing of Martin HA. I doubt it that Martin would of acted alone without discussing it with his HA associates.
What we do know is of one defector from the Mafia clan "DelBalso" ; with regards to Barberio and PIzzi we know they meet and seem to have close ties with Martin but we do not know for sure whether they have crossed the line. If they did it doesn't look good for Rizzuto and we don't know if others will follow. Now it remains to be seen if the Mafia clan will retaliate by attacking HA. The Mafia clan will need lots of soldiers or able bodies to sustain such a war. I think they will favor for a settlement.

With regards to Mirarchi the following LaPresse paragraph says it all.

La presse Nov.23,2019

Vittorio is suspicious. In the weeks following his release, he reportedly owned no cellphones. Vittorio Mirarchi, 41, is surrounded by a close guard whose loyalty is unfailing. The recent marriages of two of his relatives have demonstrated that it will be difficult to put the knife in the oyster of his organization. During the Clemenza investigation, in which the RCMP attacked emerging mob clans in 2011, investigators amassed evidence that the clan was involved in the large-scale importation of cocaine, but Mirarchi was never charged with such crimes. According to our information, the clan would control some of the illegal sports betting in Montreal. The group is currently quite independent of other mafia clans and bikers, but has strong support from a mafia family in Ontario.
Posted By: Mafia101

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/22/23 02:07 AM

What irks me is the vague reference to the Mafia in Ontario or sometimes it says Ndrangheta in Ontario or in Ottawa. Never have I seen something specific about who this is or anyone even make a good educated guess. I don't know what Ndrangheta is in Ottawa if any are even there the only thing close to the Mafia there would be Benedetto Manasseri and his associates who we know Vittorio Mirarchi is close to.

Hollander I don't think Pietro D'Adamo was a Cuntrera-Caruana guy. He was in the Francesco Arcadi cell back in the 2000s.
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/22/23 03:47 PM

i will second what mafia101 said about d'adamo. never found links to caruana-cuntrera. i am of doubt also that car-cun even exists in the structure and power it once held in the past in canada. there are an array of children, cousins and family still living in canada with a confusing network of companies and similar names. but none have ever been arrested or even mentioned as currently being active or connected...except liborio cuntrera and giuseppe cuntrera of toronto. so that criminal family has transitioned its wealth into the legit/legal world or has become even more secretive than in the past.

as far as 'ndrangheta in ottawa...please. long been mentioned never been proven, doubtful it exists at all.

benny manasseri is at best an associate or was until he got shot in 2019. the reason for this and who did it or ordered it is still a mystery. the FBI will find hoffa before a single homicide is conclusively solved in ottawa. the police force is an absolute joke. i have no numbers about successful homicide cases solved but it has to be the lowest in the country.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/22/23 09:01 PM

I guess I got him mixed up with someone else Marco Pizzi maybe, wasn't he charged with Liborio Cuntrera?
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/22/23 10:05 PM

Murder in Montreal: ''The message of this execution is yet to be decoded''
Vincent Musacchio May 22, 2023
The murder is probably linked to the Montreal mafias and raises concern because it could reopen the war between the mafia gangs of Italian origin (Calabrian and Sicilian who were previously a single entity). Claudia Iacono is not a secondary target. Married to the son of the late boss Moreno Gallo, linked to the Rizzuto clan - the main mafia organization active on Canada's east coast - was shot and killed in her car in front of her own hot springs. As a criminologist, I concentrated on three investigative evidences: a) the shooting which took place in broad daylight; b) killing of a female daughter-in-law of a Montreal mafia boss; c) potential mafia message. This murder, and above all its dynamics, however, does not seem to me an execution of professional killers, so we could also be dealing with a simple feud between individuals and not reflecting wider tensions between the Montreal mafias (especially Calabrian and Sicilian). . Of course, it cannot be ruled out that this assassination hides a precise mafia message which at the moment is not easy to decode.Leonardo Rizzuto , son of late Mafia boss Vito Rizzuto . If we associate the two criminal events and if they were linked, then we would be facing a possible mafia war that could soon degenerate, leaving many dead on the ground. It is no coincidence that we are facing the eighth homicide of the year in Montreal and the second Mafia-related shooting in the last two months.
Posted By: Mafia101

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/22/23 10:18 PM

Originally Posted by Hollander
I guess I got him mixed up with someone else Marco Pizzi maybe, wasn't he charged with Liborio Cuntrera?


Those two were charged together in Project Clemenza but a lot of people were charged together in that case. He wasn't a Cuntrera-Caruana guy either.

And can I ask why you only share a paragraph or two from articles instead of just posting the link to it?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/23/23 04:34 PM

https://montrealgazette.com/news/ma...t-says-he-has-victims-blood-on-his-hands

Man who killed West Island resident says he has victim's blood on his hands
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/23/23 09:06 PM

Originally Posted by Mafia101
Originally Posted by Hollander
I guess I got him mixed up with someone else Marco Pizzi maybe, wasn't he charged with Liborio Cuntrera?


Those two were charged together in Project Clemenza but a lot of people were charged together in that case. He wasn't a Cuntrera-Caruana guy either.

And can I ask why you only share a paragraph or two from articles instead of just posting the link to it?


I give the links of english articles, but when it's in another language I usually only give a translation. It's an english forum.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/24/23 12:14 AM

The Lebanese are interesting though they have a strong presence in Quebec.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/24/23 02:11 AM

Une période trouble dans le milieu interlope montréalais?
https://www.985fm.ca/audio/559510/une-periode-trouble-dans-le-milieu-interlope-montrealais
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/24/23 05:18 AM

Originally Posted by VitoCahill
just re activated thread on la source andrew scoppa book see latest post.


Thanks Vito, will check it out
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/25/23 06:11 AM

MAFIOSFERA | Dove c’è Calabria c’è ‘ndrangheta? Paradossi e faide in Canada
By Anna Sergi

https://icalabresi.it/rubriche/ndrangheta-calabria-e-canada-morti-crimini-e-razzismo/
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/25/23 11:04 AM

Originally Posted by antimafia
MAFIOSFERA | Dove c’è Calabria c’è ‘ndrangheta? Paradossi e faide in Canada
By Anna Sergi

https://icalabresi.it/rubriche/ndrangheta-calabria-e-canada-morti-crimini-e-razzismo/


Good article !
Posted By: LuanKuci

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/25/23 01:11 PM

It’d be hysterical if Jimmy DeMaria wins this by playing the “Discrimination Card” basically using the government’s own obsessions with political correctness and shallow anti-racism against them.
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/25/23 03:49 PM

a couple interesting take aways from sergis article.

-claudia iacono is NOT part of a 'ndrangheta feud in ontario or quebec.

-moreno gallo was NOT 'ndrangheta, virtually none of the so-called calabrians of mtl has anything to do with the 'ndrangheta.

- this confusion ends up raising the profile of some of these subjects, making them more than what they they are in the criminal world.
example= dominic scarfo (my example, but see article linked to rizzuto chart thread.)

key quote..."if there is 'ndrangheta...then there also has to be non- 'ndrangheta."
-the above relates mostly to the ongoing legal battle of demaria, but could be applied across both mtl and toronto.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/25/23 10:33 PM

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...-captured-key-moment-in-shooters-getaway

Murder at Dix30: Surveillance camera captured key moment in shooter's getaway
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/26/23 12:05 AM

Originally Posted by VitoCahill
a couple interesting take aways from sergis article.

-claudia iacono is NOT part of a 'ndrangheta feud in ontario or quebec.

-moreno gallo was NOT 'ndrangheta, virtually none of the so-called calabrians of mtl has anything to do with the 'ndrangheta.

- this confusion ends up raising the profile of some of these subjects, making them more than what they they are in the criminal world.
example= dominic scarfo (my example, but see article linked to rizzuto chart thread.)

key quote..."if there is 'ndrangheta...then there also has to be non- 'ndrangheta."
-the above relates mostly to the ongoing legal battle of demaria, but could be applied across both mtl and toronto.


Compare Frank Arcadi was acting boss, but born in Sant'Agata del Bianco (RC) so it's obvious he has ties to 'ndrangheta.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/26/23 09:42 PM

Gratteri explained: "And the 'Ndrangheta has adopted these rules as a brand. The same structure of the 'Ndrangheta that exists in Calabria, has been cloned in Brooklyn, Toronto, Montreal, as well as Frankfurt, Nice or Cape Town. It's a mafia that manages to present itself as proactive, comes here, to the north, with a lot of money and finds the embrace of greedy businessmen,"

https://www.antimafiadosmil.com/ind...nente-estructural-del-capitalismo-global
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/26/23 10:46 PM

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...-to-know-exactly-where-victim-was-seated

Murder at Dix30: Gunman seemed to know exactly where victim was seated
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/26/23 11:29 PM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Gratteri explained: "And the 'Ndrangheta has adopted these rules as a brand. The same structure of the 'Ndrangheta that exists in Calabria, has been cloned in Brooklyn, Toronto, Montreal, as well as Frankfurt, Nice or Cape Town. It's a mafia that manages to present itself as proactive, comes here, to the north, with a lot of money and finds the embrace of greedy businessmen,"

https://www.antimafiadosmil.com/ind...nente-estructural-del-capitalismo-global



https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/longform/calabria-mafia-trial/

The Mafia from the mountains:Ndrangheta

This article mentions Montreal as well.

Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/26/23 11:36 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment
Originally Posted by antimafia
MAFIOSFERA | Dove c’è Calabria c’è ‘ndrangheta? Paradossi e faide in Canada
By Anna Sergi

https://icalabresi.it/rubriche/ndrangheta-calabria-e-canada-morti-crimini-e-razzismo/


Good article !


Anna Sergi mentions further on in the article: "That there is a Calabrian faction in the Canadian/American/Italian mafia in Montreal that is not connected to the 'Ndrangheta obviously does not mean that there is no 'Ndrangheta on the ground . On the contrary."
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/26/23 11:42 PM

Montreal is once again a sort of Pandora's box , where anything can happen, also because interest is high.Whoever controls Montreal controls the port which is the main access point for cocaine in North America », explains the professor.

“Cocaine remains the main source of wealth for the 'Ndrangheta and many other criminal organizations, but they are exploring the field of synthetic drugs . By now in North America, fentanyls have completely supplanted cocaine. They are very strong drugs and they cost less ,” confesses Nicaso. He adds: « They have synthesized heroin, they are synthesizing cocaine with pink cocaine, they have synthesized cannabinoids with a much higher thc and a lower cost than, for example, that guaranteed in countries where marijuana has been legalized ». It doesn't take much. "It's a new front, just hire an expert who systematically manages to modify the molecular structure and make the substances marketable, at least until they are seized, analyzed and included in the list of prohibited substances".


https://www.corrieredellacalabria.i...a-il-porto-punto-daccesso-della-cocaina/
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/26/23 11:45 PM

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...to-eliminate-sicilians-in-montreal-mafia

Informant says Scoppa brothers wanted to eliminate Sicilians in Montreal Mafia

The informant mentioned in the article said "“Salvatore (Scoppa) had one. Andrew Scoppa had his menu and Vittorio (Victor) Mirarchi had his menu,” the informant said. He later described Mirarchi as being “part of the ‘Ndrangheta.” Mirarchi is not charged in the murder case and is not mentioned in the charges Viau and Dion face."

Whether this informant is credible remains to be seen.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/27/23 12:16 AM

Over the years, having read various articles/ books on this Montreal feud, there seems to be a pattern with rival Montreal crime members whom are plotting Rizzuto's demise. Many of them seem to gravitate to Toronto. I don't believe in coincidences, but these frequent visits are further evidence that Calabrian criminal entities/clans from Toronto are possibly involved; as speculated by media reports.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/27/23 07:43 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment
https://montrealgazette.com/news/ma...t-says-he-has-victims-blood-on-his-hands

Man who killed West Island resident says he has victim's blood on his hands


Un homme condamné à 16 ans de pénitencier pour un homicide à Laval en 2017
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...ier-pour-un-homicide-a-laval-en-2017.php
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/27/23 08:32 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment
Over the years, having read various articles/ books on this Montreal feud, there seems to be a pattern with rival Montreal crime members whom are plotting Rizzuto's demise. Many of them seem to gravitate to Toronto. I don't believe in coincidences, but these frequent visits are further evidence that Calabrian criminal entities/clans from Toronto are possibly involved; as speculated by media reports.


I do believe from a strategic perspective the 'ndrangheta has an interest in Montreal it doesn't mean they order hits there but there are alliances and they probably back the strongest.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/28/23 11:02 PM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...naise-victime-d-un-incendie-criminel.php

Lebanese bakery victim of arson
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/29/23 07:35 PM

Isn’t Raynald due out soon?
Posted By: Mafia101

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/29/23 07:40 PM

Been out for over 6 months already.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/29/23 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment


Gosselin was also the former brother-in-law of Raynald Desjardins.

[Linked Image]
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/29/23 08:10 PM

Quebec investing over $5.6 million to fight organized crime in Montreal
https://montreal.citynews.ca/2023/05/29/quebec-investing-to-fight-organized-crime/
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/30/23 03:58 AM

Originally Posted by Mafia101
Been out for over 6 months already.


Interesting. Wonder if he was involved with this Rizzuto/Del Balso deal. Surely he still has an ax to grind knowing they wanted him dead for turning on them and the failed prison murder plot with Mom.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/30/23 03:33 PM

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...-more-and-more-violence-the-corner-booth

Montreal's 'new Mafia' could lead to more and more violence | The Corner Booth
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/30/23 04:04 PM

Deux voitures ont été incendiées la nuit dernière dans le stationnement d'un commerce lié à l'influent mafieux Marco Pizzi, à Montréal-Est.

https://twitter.com/maxdelandqmi/status/1663549668956180482?s=46&t=ec5JjzW4kIbijwKywCiI0w
Posted By: mike68

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/30/23 04:11 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment
https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...-more-and-more-violence-the-corner-booth

Montreal's 'new Mafia' could lead to more and more violence | The Corner Booth




I watched this morning, very interesting history here. Some takeaways for me were that Poletti thinks that Italian OC will look like altar boys in the next seven years or so as Mexican, Colombian, and MS-13 continue growing in Canada. Also mentioned that Frank Cotroni's sister was in charge of the Cotroni led mafia at one point.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/30/23 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Deux voitures ont été incendiées la nuit dernière dans le stationnement d'un commerce lié à l'influent mafieux Marco Pizzi, à Montréal-Est.

https://twitter.com/maxdelandqmi/status/1663549668956180482?s=46&t=ec5JjzW4kIbijwKywCiI0w


The 2 torched vehicles:

Burned-out cars

Link on Twitter (you need to be logged in): https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FxYdkI-agAILIhy?format=jpg&name=large
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/30/23 05:53 PM

https://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2023/05...r-dun-commerce-lie-a-un-influent-mafieux

Arson in the courtyard of a business linked to an influential mafia
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/31/23 01:35 PM

^^^^
In case anyone is hitting a paywall:

Un autre incen­die cri­mi­nel lié à un mafieux montréalais. Deux voitures ont flambé hier dans un commerce de voitures d’occasion de l’est.
https://www.pressreader.com/canada/le-journal-de-montreal/20230531/281509345567754
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/31/23 01:48 PM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-devant-un-commerce-lie-a-un-mafioso.php

Deux voitures incendiées devant un commerce lié à un mafioso
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/31/23 01:59 PM

I like Daniel Renaud how, from time to time, he lists the arson attacks or gun shots on businesses or other properties.

EVENTS POSSIBLY LINKED TO ORGANIZED CRIME THAT MAY PORTEND TENSIONS


Night of May 29 to 30: two vehicles burned in the courtyard of a garage linked to Marco Pizzi.
Night of May 17 to 18: second molotov cocktail targeting the Ciociaro café in Saint-Léonard
Night of May 16 to 17: molotov cocktail targeting Ciociaro coffee
Night of May 7 to 8: molotov cocktails targeting the Promécanique garage in Rivière-des-Prairies
Night of May 6 to 7: attempted fire at the Promécanique garage
Night of Saturday April 29 to Sunday April 30: car burned in Laval
Night of April 27 to 28: two separate arson attacks in Rivière-des-Prairies causing damage to several vehicles
April 10: arson in a garage in Rivière-des-Prairies and another at the Hendrix restaurant
Morning of March 31: arson targeting a vehicle near the Via restaurant, in Montreal North.
Night of March 28 to 29: arson in a garage in Rivière-des-Prairies
Night of March 27 to 28: gunshots targeting a massage parlor
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 05/31/23 09:03 PM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...nt-d-un-club-ecole-des-hells-angels.php#

Search of the president of a Hells Angels school club
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/01/23 11:37 AM

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uBoxp-oPK3A&pp=ygUOZ2FuZ3MgbW9udHJlYWw%3D

Interview with retired montreal cop, Pietro Poletti on the montreal
Mafia.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/02/23 12:58 PM

https://montreal.citynews.ca/2023/03/01/gunshots-crescent-wednesday-morning/

Gunshots on Crescent Wednesday morning

https://montreal.citynews.ca/2023/02/23/ahuntsic-cartierville-gunshots-spvm-montreal-police/

Shots fired in Ahuntsic-Cartierville Wednesday night

https://montreal.citynews.ca/2023/02/02/busy-wednesday-night-for-montreal-police/

Stabbings, gunshots, Molotov cocktails; a busy Wednesday night for Montreal police
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/04/23 05:24 PM

Please see my three tweet threads respectively found at the following links:

https://twitter.com/CdnOrgC/status/1664769277201661954?s=20

https://twitter.com/CdnOrgC/status/1665217318547251201?s=20

https://twitter.com/CdnOrgC/status/1665364767643516929?s=20
Posted By: Gambler007

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/05/23 06:06 PM

Del Balso is Done, his lives ran out
https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2023/06/05/le-mafieux-francesco-del-balso-assassine

Basically a few shots to the head in west MTL, near a GYM, more details to come
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/del-balso-shot-1.6866047
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/05/23 06:48 PM

Recently, Francesco Del Balso hired people to provide surveillance around his residence in Laval 24 hours a day, seven days a week.

Police sources confirmed to us that the mafia moved in an armored vehicle and always wore his bulletproof jacket during his public outings.



Straight in the head, that was a pro
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/05/23 06:54 PM

He was killed bear the Monster GYM.
This gym has alot of members from the criminal world, mafia, bikers etc
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/05/23 07:01 PM

Multiples shots in the head.
Also you can see many bullets holes on the wall and glasses of the gym
Posted By: mike68

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/05/23 07:37 PM

Who's next?
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/05/23 08:23 PM

Mafia leader Francesco (Chit) Del Balso gunned down in West Island
Two attempts were made on Del Balso's life in recent months.

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...hit-del-balso-gunned-down-in-west-island
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/05/23 08:29 PM

Montreal, freddato in strada a colpi di pistola il boss della mafia Francesco Del Balso

continua su: https://www.fanpage.it/esteri/montr...il-boss-della-mafia-francesco-del-balso/
https://www.fanpage.it/

[Linked Image]
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/05/23 09:35 PM

https://www.instagram.com/p/CtH6j5qAb2A/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
Posted By: LuanKuci

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/05/23 10:08 PM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Montreal, freddato in strada a colpi di pistola il boss della mafia Francesco Del Balso

LOL you’ve got to love Italian pop media when it comes to the mafia abroad.

Everyone is a boss for them!

When Emilio Fusco was arrested over there he was dubbed as a boss by almost all outlets. Same thing with Francesco Palmeri, Enzo Morena, Roberto Settineri, Frank Lupoi, even young buck Calogero Zito.

I guess it’s good for sales and clicks.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/05/23 11:01 PM

We had a discussion about his roots but he was indeed Calabrese

Francesco Del Balso was born on April 13, 1970 in the region of Calabria, Italy. A former lieutenant of the Rizzuto clan, he was for a long time an influential member of the Italian mafia in Montreal.

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2023/06/05/qui-etait-francesco-del-balso
Posted By: Giacalone

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/05/23 11:11 PM

He always struck me as a major scumbag lol
Posted By: Giacalone

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/05/23 11:12 PM

Originally Posted by mike68
Who's next?


Is there anyone left?
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/05/23 11:37 PM

Originally Posted by Giacalone
He always struck me as a major scumbag lol


Extorting nuns pure evil good riddance lol. There will be some champagne tonight in Montreal.
Posted By: Liggio

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/05/23 11:47 PM

Apparently there's still shooters left or else they wouldn't have gotten him, so of course there's people left, goof.
Posted By: LuanKuci

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/05/23 11:52 PM

Originally Posted by Giacalone
Originally Posted by mike68
Who's next?


Is there anyone left?


Desjardins is certainly on many people’s list
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/06/23 12:38 AM

Originally Posted by LuanKuci
Originally Posted by Giacalone
Originally Posted by mike68
Who's next?


Is there anyone left?


Desjardins is certainly on many people’s list


It's unbelievable how many lives the war has taken from the 70s till now.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/06/23 12:40 AM

https://www.instagram.com/p/CtIQsZOAbg1/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/06/23 12:45 AM

Francesco Del Balso would have fallen into an ambush

In the program Le Bilan with Paul Larocque, Félix Séguin explains that police sources point out that Francesco Del Balso would have fallen into an ambush.

According to him, he would have become a disturbing individual for many fringes of organized crime, including the Hells Angels, to whom he would have approached, particularly Martin Robert and Stéphane Plouffe, two influential members.

Francesco Del Balso would therefore have been drawn into a false meeting by some members of the Hells.

"He could have been sacrificed by the Hells Angels to attract a kind of peace for the future. Since the attempted murder on Rizzuto, it has moved a lot in Montreal, "says Félix Séguin.

"Could we have sacrificed an Italian gangster like Francesco Del Balso to buy peace? For police officers, it's part of the police officers' theories, "completes the journalist.

https://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2023/06/05/francesco-del-balso-serait-tombe-dans-un-guet-apens
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/06/23 12:47 AM

h

Thanks he knew it was coming, but I feel sorry for his family though they went already through some shit and now this.
Posted By: mike68

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/06/23 12:55 AM

Originally Posted by Hollander
h

Thanks he knew it was coming, but I feel sorry for his family though they went already through some shit and now this.



No doubt there are always victims in these things. His kids didn't sign up for this. But how many victims was he responsible for through the years? He lived by the sword, no doubt. I still want to know why the woman was killed though. Was it give up Del Balso or nobody is safe??
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/06/23 01:03 AM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...afieux-francesco-del-balso-assassine.php

Mafioso Francesco Del Balso murdered
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/06/23 01:11 AM

https://nationalpost.com/news/local...wcm/f5556997-1e14-4b9d-9518-bd3574826009

Mafia leader Francesco (Chit) Del Balso gunned down in West Island, Montreal
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/06/23 02:59 AM

This was Leonardo Rizzuto response that he isn't going anywhere. Now this murder opens up new possibilities and questions.

- If Del Balso was under Martin's protection , will Martin retaliate ? He will look weak if he doesn't
- Did Rizzuto strike a deal with Martin to give him (Del Balso ) up ?
-If Martin can't protect a Mafia defector such as Del Balso then what will become of others like Pietrantonio or Sergio Piccirilli ?
-What will become of the peace deal with Mirarchi ?
-Last but not least, will Desjardins be able to get enough protection by the Spryfield Mob ?
Posted By: LuanKuci

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/06/23 07:44 AM

one theory is that the HA sold him out, they probably thought that he wasn’t worth the heat and that he didn’t have Rizzuto’s pull.

smart move by HA imho

Originally Posted by Blackmobs
Francesco Del Balso would have fallen into an ambush

In the program Le Bilan with Paul Larocque, Félix Séguin explains that police sources point out that Francesco Del Balso would have fallen into an ambush.

According to him, he would have become a disturbing individual for many fringes of organized crime, including the Hells Angels, to whom he would have approached, particularly Martin Robert and Stéphane Plouffe, two influential members.

Francesco Del Balso would therefore have been drawn into a false meeting by some members of the Hells.

"He could have been sacrificed by the Hells Angels to attract a kind of peace for the future. Since the attempted murder on Rizzuto, it has moved a lot in Montreal, "says Félix Séguin.

"Could we have sacrificed an Italian gangster like Francesco Del Balso to buy peace? For police officers, it's part of the police officers' theories, "completes the journalist.

https://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2023/06/05/francesco-del-balso-serait-tombe-dans-un-guet-apens
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/06/23 10:37 AM

Shot dead, Del Balso would have been delivered on pasture by the Hells Angels

The murder contract on his head was payable in cocaine, according to our information

Several police sources indicate that the Hells welcomed the execution of this murder contract, in order to ease tensions and avoid a bloody war within organized crime.

The police witnessed a surprising meeting between Del Balso and the influential Hells Angels Martin Robert on March 29, in the hours following searches of the homes of the two men.

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...ete-livre-en-pature-par-les-hells-angels
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/06/23 10:48 AM

Yes Francesco Del Balso would have been delivered to his enemies by the Hells Angels, the police believe. The murder contract on his head was payable in cocaine, according to information.
Posted By: ralphie_cifaretto

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/06/23 11:04 AM

Montreal is like the fuckin wild west


Crime boss Martin Robert
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Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/06/23 11:25 AM

Wonder what will happen with the two HAs, Martin and Plouffe.
If they really were part or knew about the hit against Leo Rizzuto…
Will they stay members of the HAs ? Will the Rizzuto want something from them ?
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/06/23 11:50 AM

Downtown Montreal restaurant targeted by firebomb
An individual was seen throwing a Molotov cocktail at the facade of the restaurant before fleeing.

https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/downtown-montreal-restaurant-targeted-by-firebomb
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/06/23 12:08 PM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...ille-ravage-par-un-incendie-criminel.php


Downtown business ravaged by arson
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/06/23 12:13 PM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...n-restaurant-au-centre-ville-de-montreal

Molotov cocktail against a restaurant in downtown Montreal.
According to initial reports, a suspect was seen throwing a Molotov cocktail at the facade of the Terrasse Maya restaurant, which opened only two weeks ago.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/06/23 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by Blackmobs
Wonder what will happen with the two HAs, Martin and Plouffe.
If they really were part or knew about the hit against Leo Rizzuto…
Will they stay members of the HAs ? Will the Rizzuto want something from them ?


Robert is one of the few Quebec members of the Hells Angels to have achieved "World" status, having spent some time in France he has contacts around the world, would they give that up?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/06/23 01:25 PM

https://torontosun.com/news/local-n...wcm/5acfcd97-9647-4443-8afd-04dc2d7045e4

Montreal Mafia leader Francesco (Chit) Del Balso gunned down in West Island
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/06/23 02:55 PM

an attempt to answer a few questions posed above/previous.

-it would appear the working theory is that del balso was setup/sacrificed by HA to appease the rizzuto/sollecito faction. payment of $250 000 was made in cocaine allegedly? making it about 5 kg's worth i guess. if indeed the HA were behind this there can be no retaliation expected. if a truce was made and the cost was del balso all other scenarios can be discarded. the fly in the ointment is gone...back to business.

-i can see all this decreasing robert/plouffes power and influence and possibly causing perhaps pietrantonio or others to migrate back to the MAFIA.

-i dont think any of this has anything to do with mirarchi at all. del balsos murder could open up more sports gambling for mirarchi and his cell. business as usual for him and his i would think.

-the spryfield mob or what remains of it has NO/ZERO power or influence in mtl. if this group still exists it is in the east coast/maritime prison system. the majority of this mob are in jail. i cant even find any good proof that any of these members ever set foot in mtl proper. considering how del balsos life ended, if desjardins has been afforded the same type of "protection" from robert/plouffe i would be worried if i were him.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/06/23 04:30 PM

Quebec never gets boring. Tweet by reporter Pascal Robidas:

https://twitter.com/pascalrobidas/status/1666109774910332930?s=46&t=ec5JjzW4kIbijwKywCiI0w

Pascal Robidas @pascalrobidas

DERNIÈRE HEURE: selon mes sources policières, Sharon Simon « la Reine de Kanesatake » est visée par une perquisition de la @sureteduquebec sur le territoire Mohawk, en ce moment.

Le membre en règle des HA Robert Barletta est aussi visé à son domicile de St-Jérôme.

#rcmtl

2023-06-06, 11:48 AM

Most of you will recall that Sharon Simon was the onetime girlfriend of Sergio Piccirilli.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/06/23 04:59 PM

Murder of Francesco Del Balso: he had just met the #1 of the Hells

Del Balso tried to escape when he saw the shooter

Everything suggests that the mafia Francesco Del Balso came out of a meeting with the number one of the Hells Angels shortly before his assassination, yesterday afternoon, in front of a gym in Dorval.

The 53-year-old man went in the early afternoon to the training center of the Grant brothers, two well-known boxing champions in Montreal, located in the Monster gym on the Trans-Canada Highway. It is here that he would have met the biker Martin Robert, considered the most influential Hells in Quebec, according to the thesis currently favored by the investigators.

He tried to save himself

At the end of an interview that would have lasted "a good time", according to the gym employee, Francesco Del Balso went to the parking lot. As he walked towards his vehicle, he saw the shooter coming towards him. It was at this point that he would have turned around and tried to take refuge inside the gym. But the shooter still had time to aim at him. The scene was partially filmed by the establishment's security cameras.

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...o-il-venait-de-rencontrer-le-1-des-hells
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/06/23 05:31 PM

^^^^
Francesco Del Balso savait sa tête mise à prix
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...del-balso-savait-sa-tete-mise-a-prix.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/06/23 05:50 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia post_id=262627 time=1686069083 user_id=113

Quebec never gets boring. Tweet by reporter Pascal Robidas:

https://twitter.com/pascalrobidas/status/1666109774910332930?s=46&t=ec5JjzW4kIbijwKywCiI0w

Pascal Robidas @pascalrobidas

DERNIÈRE HEURE: selon mes sources policières, Sharon Simon « la Reine de Kanesatake » est visée par une perquisition de la @sureteduquebec sur le territoire Mohawk, en ce moment.

Le membre en règle des HA Robert Barletta est aussi visé à son domicile de St-Jérôme.

#rcmtl

2023-06-06, 11:48 AM

Some of us will recall that Sharon Simon was the onetime girlfriend of Sergio Piccirilli.


More confirmation that Hells Angel Rob Barletta has a place in Saint Jérôme, Quebec.

https://twitter.com/maxdelandqmi/status/1666125321744023553?s=46&t=ec5JjzW4kIbijwKywCiI0w

Maxime Deland @MaxDelandQMI

Dernière heure: La SQ débarque en territoire mohawk pour perquisitionner des commerces appartenant à «la reine de Kanesatake», la narcotrafiquante Sharon Simon. La police a également fouillé la résidence du Hells Robert Barletta, à Saint-Jérôme. pic.twitter.com/SVB6VBU42a [4 photos]

2023-06-06, 12:50 PM
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/06/23 07:36 PM

Originally Posted by VitoCahill
an attempt to answer a few questions posed above/previous.

-it would appear the working theory is that del balso was setup/sacrificed by HA to appease the rizzuto/sollecito faction. payment of $250 000 was made in cocaine allegedly? making it about 5 kg's worth i guess. if indeed the HA were behind this there can be no retaliation expected. if a truce was made and the cost was del balso all other scenarios can be discarded. the fly in the ointment is gone...back to business.

-i can see all this decreasing robert/plouffes power and influence and possibly causing perhaps pietrantonio or others to migrate back to the MAFIA.

-i dont think any of this has anything to do with mirarchi at all. del balsos murder could open up more sports gambling for mirarchi and his cell. business as usual for him and his i would think.

-the spryfield mob or what remains of it has NO/ZERO power or influence in mtl. if this group still exists it is in the east coast/maritime prison system. the majority of this mob are in jail. i cant even find any good proof that any of these members ever set foot in mtl proper. considering how del balsos life ended, if desjardins has been afforded the same type of "protection" from robert/plouffe i would be worried if i were him.


I am more inclined to believe that Del Balso was set up by Martin but his protection with regards to defectors, that he has welcomed in his clan, is now questionable. That is why Pietrantonio's name comes up. The Rizzuto clan has been systematically eliminating any one that was disloyal to them or aligned with their rivals. Mirarchi and Desjardins had orginally aligned themselves with Montagna, a rival, but later parted ways. Will the Rizzuto clan look the other way and not seek retribution, I think not , but time will tell. If on the other hand, Martin did not set Del Balso up; then this may cause further friction between Rizzuto and Martin.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/06/23 08:49 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Originally Posted by antimafia post_id=262627 time=1686069083 user_id=113

Quebec never gets boring. Tweet by reporter Pascal Robidas:

https://twitter.com/pascalrobidas/status/1666109774910332930?s=46&t=ec5JjzW4kIbijwKywCiI0w

Pascal Robidas @pascalrobidas

DERNIÈRE HEURE: selon mes sources policières, Sharon Simon « la Reine de Kanesatake » est visée par une perquisition de la @sureteduquebec sur le territoire Mohawk, en ce moment.

Le membre en règle des HA Robert Barletta est aussi visé à son domicile de St-Jérôme.

#rcmtl

2023-06-06, 11:48 AM

Some of us will recall that Sharon Simon was the onetime girlfriend of Sergio Piccirilli.


More confirmation that Hells Angel Rob Barletta has a place in Saint Jérôme, Quebec.

https://twitter.com/maxdelandqmi/status/1666125321744023553?s=46&t=ec5JjzW4kIbijwKywCiI0w

Maxime Deland @MaxDelandQMI

Dernière heure: La SQ débarque en territoire mohawk pour perquisitionner des commerces appartenant à «la reine de Kanesatake», la narcotrafiquante Sharon Simon. La police a également fouillé la résidence du Hells Robert Barletta, à Saint-Jérôme. pic.twitter.com/SVB6VBU42a [4 photos]

2023-06-06, 12:50 PM


« La Reine de Kanesatake » visée par une perquisition de la SQ
https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/1985436/perquisitions-sq-kanesatake-sharon-simon-enrco
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/06/23 09:51 PM



[VIDÉO] Un témoin a filmé le corps inanimé du mafieux Francesco Del Balso peu après son assassinat
https://www.journaldequebec.com/202...cesco-del-balso-peu-apres-son-assassinat
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/06/23 11:15 PM

Simon's daughter who married Robert in the huge flashy wedding 5 years ago is pretty tough herself doing plenty of time and because she refused to give up her relation with Martin she didn't get parole. Tough girl like most Mohawks.
Posted By: Giacalone

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/06/23 11:18 PM

They offered so much to get this man. There was no way he was going to live
Posted By: Gambler007

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/06/23 11:35 PM

Ok here is a Theory with all this action:

Del Balso gets out of jail. Is told he is persona non grata in MTL , so goes and live in Quebec. IN quebec hooks up with the bikers , tells them he can give them alot of info on the MOB , more precisely the famous book worth millions. He then falls under the protection of the bikers and has his way back to Montreal. In Montreal Roberts probably makes him the liason between him and the mob. This royally pisses off the Rizzutto clan , as they know he is nothing but a fuck up. Del Balso then probably rubs this in the mobs face as he knows he has the protectian of the bikers.

The mob then knows he is giving the bikers alot of info on there business and tries to wack him a few times before his demise yesterday

Some questions : is pizzi next , his garagee's up to a few days ago were being torched , he was seen at a table beside Martin Robert , and was sitting with Del Balso and Barbieri ?

The bikers had a meet without Roberts and Plouffe, what does that mean? He lost alot of credibility doing business or protecting Del Balso a guy that threatened a journalist and priest , and has been a fuck up everywhere .
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/06/23 11:35 PM

Originally Posted by Giacalone
They offered so much to get this man. There was no way he was going to live


He wanted to flee to Amsterdam, but was arrested at the airport. They took his passport, but I believe he still tried to get away.
Posted By: Giacalone

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/06/23 11:42 PM

Lol imagine having this guy as your neighbor H. He'd extort you. You'd have to turn your beers in
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/06/23 11:49 PM

Originally Posted by Giacalone
Lol imagine having this guy as your neighbor H. He'd extort you. You'd have to turn your beers in


Haha. he would have fit in with the bikers here LOL.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/07/23 12:02 AM

Originally Posted by Gambler007
Ok here is a Theory with all this action:

Del Balso gets out of jail. Is told he is persona non grata in MTL , so goes and live in Quebec. IN quebec hooks up with the bikers , tells them he can give them alot of info on the MOB , more precisely the famous book worth millions. He then falls under the protection of the bikers and has his way back to Montreal. In Montreal Roberts probably makes him the liason between him and the mob. This royally pisses off the Rizzutto clan , as they know he is nothing but a fuck up. Del Balso then probably rubs this in the mobs face as he knows he has the protectian of the bikers.

The mob then knows he is giving the bikers alot of info on there business and tries to wack him a few times before his demise yesterday

Some questions : is pizzi next , his garagee's up to a few days ago were being torched , he was seen at a table beside Martin Robert , and was sitting with Del Balso and Barbieri ?

The bikers had a meet without Roberts and Plouffe, what does that mean? He lost alot of credibility doing business or protecting Del Balso a guy that threatened a journalist and priest , and has been a fuck up everywhere .



Nice post cheers.
Posted By: Gambler007

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/07/23 01:43 AM

some other interesting points:

1- Cazzetta is sent packing from the MTL Chapter , a Rizzuto supporter, probably was not aligned with Robert on doing business with Del Balso
2- Wooley gets his house or neighbors house shot up. Rizzutto supporter
3- Desjardins son is under Robert in the HA , quite interesting , is daddy Desjardins been relaying info to Martin Robert , through his son? Desjardins has been way to quiet.
4- Fun fact , would you want to associate with Mirarchi , last 2 partnerships , resulted in Montagna, Devito, etc all dead , then he partnered with the scoppas and they are all dead. and almost a 3rd if he has partnered with the Rizzutos

Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/07/23 02:46 AM


There seems to be a pattern.
They should avoid going to the GYM


June 2009 Dany DeGregorio Mafia was shot and injured near St. Leonard GYM
March 2016 Lorenzo Giordano Mafia shot dead near GYM in Laval
June 2018 John McKenzie West end gang shot and injured near Extreme Evolution gym
Oct 2019 Roger Bishop ties to HA shot dead outside Brossard GYM
Oct. 2019 Andrew Scoppa Mafia shot dead out side West Island GYM
Jun 2023 Francesco Del Balso Mafia shot dead outside Dorval GYM
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/07/23 02:44 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment

There seems to be a pattern.
They should avoid going to the GYM


June 2009 Dany DeGregorio Mafia was shot and injured near St. Leonard GYM
March 2016 Lorenzo Giordano Mafia shot dead near GYM in Laval
June 2018 John McKenzie West end gang shot and injured near Extreme Evolution gym
Oct 2019 Roger Bishop ties to HA shot dead outside Brossard GYM
Oct. 2019 Andrew Scoppa Mafia shot dead out side West Island GYM
Jun 2023 Francesco Del Balso Mafia shot dead outside Dorval GYM


That’s what I came to say, they need to stay away from gyms. I’d have to say this power move failed big time. The book is truly cursed like Scoppa said
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/07/23 05:53 PM

Francesco Del Balso était sur le point d’être accusé
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...lso-etait-sur-le-point-d-etre-accuse.php
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/07/23 06:41 PM

A man arrested for the murder of Claudia Iacono

A 28-year-old man, a resident of Brampton, Ontario, was arrested by the City of Montreal Police Service (SPVM) for the murder of Claudia Iacono, this mother and spouse of a mafioso murdered in her car on May 16.

Joel Richad Clarke was arrested by SPVM Major Crimes investigators and is due to appear this afternoon at the Montreal courthouse to be charged with first-degree murder.

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...te-pour-le-meurtre-de-claudia-iacono.php
Posted By: mike68

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/07/23 07:01 PM

Quote
According to our information, which the SPVM has not yet publicly confirmed, the investigators are seriously considering the possibility that Ms. Iacono was not the real target of the attack and that she was killed by mistake.


This would make more sense. Hiring idiots to do a job and they kill a guy's wife instead of the guy himself. Maybe the Gallo's were aligned with Del Balso/bikers, and this put Antonio Gallo on a Sicilian hit list?Now do they try to finish the job or is this enough? He has to live with the fact (if this hypothesis is true) that he may have gotten his wife killed. If they complete the job, then they orphan two small kids. I'm sure that matters very little to them.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/07/23 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by Blackmobs
A man arrested for the murder of Claudia Iacono

A 28-year-old man, a resident of Brampton, Ontario, was arrested by the City of Montreal Police Service (SPVM) for the murder of Claudia Iacono, this mother and spouse of a mafioso murdered in her car on May 16.

Joel Richad Clarke was arrested by SPVM Major Crimes investigators and is due to appear this afternoon at the Montreal courthouse to be charged with first-degree murder.

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...te-pour-le-meurtre-de-claudia-iacono.php


The SPVM has tweeted about the arrest. I’ve yet to check the press-conference replay on YouTube to see whether the police are still refraining from using her name.

https://twitter.com/spvm/status/1666532147509841920?s=46&t=ec5JjzW4kIbijwKywCiI0w
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/07/23 10:02 PM

^^^^
Ontario man charged in death of Montreal Mafia leader's daughter-in-law
https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...f-montreal-mafia-leaders-daughter-in-law
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/07/23 10:59 PM

Originally Posted by Gambler007
some other interesting points:

1- Cazzetta is sent packing from the MTL Chapter , a Rizzuto supporter, probably was not aligned with Robert on doing business with Del Balso
2- Wooley gets his house or neighbors house shot up. Rizzutto supporter
3- Desjardins son is under Robert in the HA , quite interesting , is daddy Desjardins been relaying info to Martin Robert , through his son? Desjardins has been way to quiet.
4- Fun fact , would you want to associate with Mirarchi , last 2 partnerships , resulted in Montagna, Devito, etc all dead , then he partnered with the scoppas and they are all dead. and almost a 3rd if he has partnered with the Rizzutos



In good or bad standing?
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/07/23 11:45 PM

Originally Posted by Blackmobs
A man arrested for the murder of Claudia Iacono

A 28-year-old man, a resident of Brampton, Ontario, was arrested by the City of Montreal Police Service (SPVM) for the murder of Claudia Iacono, this mother and spouse of a mafioso murdered in her car on May 16.

Joel Richad Clarke was arrested by SPVM Major Crimes investigators and is due to appear this afternoon at the Montreal courthouse to be charged with first-degree murder.

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...te-pour-le-meurtre-de-claudia-iacono.php


Links to other articles on the same subject:

Man faces 1st-degree murder charge in shooting of Montreal Mafia figure's daughter-in-law
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/montreal-mafia-figure-daughter-in-law-arrest-1.6868912

Ontario man charged with first-degree murder in killing of Claudia Iacono outside Montreal salon
https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/ontario...-iacono-outside-montreal-salon-1.6431488

Suspect to face murder charge in death of daughter-in-law of late Montreal mob boss
https://www.thestar.com/news/canada...er-in-law-of-late-montreal-mob-boss.html

Un Ontarien accusé d’avoir tué Claudia Iacono
https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...re-de-la-belle-fille-dun-mafioso-notoire

Meurtre de Claudia Iacono : le SPVM arrête un suspect
https://www.noovo.info/nouvelle/meurtre-de-claudia-iacono-le-spvm-arrete-un-suspect.html

Ontario man arrested in brazen shooting of woman in Montreal parking lot
https://globalnews.ca/news/9752912/ontario-man-arrested-shooting-montreal-parking-lot/
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/08/23 12:36 AM

Don't forget the chapter led by Robert is compared to the Nomads chapter of Mom Boucher, very powerful. Boucher wanted to kill Desjardins, but he died a year ago. So that means an opportunity for Desjardins.
Posted By: Gambler007

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/08/23 01:51 AM

article in the newspaper last Nov states forced retirement but then we hear he might be with the south side chapter now . If he is still part of the south chapter then he is in good standing
https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...chef-des-hells-angels-salvatore-cazzetta
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/08/23 02:40 AM

Originally Posted by mike68
Quote
According to our information, which the SPVM has not yet publicly confirmed, the investigators are seriously considering the possibility that Ms. Iacono was not the real target of the attack and that she was killed by mistake.


This would make more sense. Hiring idiots to do a job and they kill a guy's wife instead of the guy himself. Maybe the Gallo's were aligned with Del Balso/bikers, and this put Antonio Gallo on a Sicilian hit list?Now do they try to finish the job or is this enough? He has to live with the fact (if this hypothesis is true) that he may have gotten his wife killed. If they complete the job, then they orphan two small kids. I'm sure that matters very little to them.


Yep I would believe this over her being the real target and that the Rizzuto’s were after her. It made no sense at all
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/08/23 03:52 AM

^^^^
While the charge of 1st-degree murder might change, especially when more details and a motive emerge, for now the SPVM is stating that Claudia Iacono was not wrongly targeted.

Quebec journalist Pascal Robidas explains this in a tweet:

https://twitter.com/pascalrobidas/status/1666538233423974400?s=46&t=ec5JjzW4kIbijwKywCiI0w

Pascal Robidas @pascalrobidas

Le commandant Jean-Sébastien Caron du @SPVM affirme qu’une accusation de meurtre prémédité a été autorisé par le @_DPCP contre Joel Richard Clark, 28 ans.
On comprend que Claudia Iacono n’a pas été victime d’une erreur sur la personne quand elle a été abattue par balles.

#rcmtl pic.twitter.com/0elJCSck6Z
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/08/23 12:27 PM



Carlos Pena Torrez’s legal matter in Quebec — he’s suspected of trying to kill Francesco Del Balso this past January 29 but mistakenly shot a 77-year-old man instead — will be spoken to today in Laval.

https://www.evernote.com/shard/s229...tM56XWA7hFCxMzKI0JCHj8YwmRPajOqbJB-d1UAg

In Ontario, he faces several charges, one of which is conspiracy to commit murder for the drive-by execution of a man walking his dog in Schomberg, Ontario. York Regional Police theorize that Pena Torrez and others, having been hired by an unnamed organized-crime group, shot the wrong man — this murder occurred 14 days after the bungled attempt by Pena Torrez to kill Del Balso.

Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/08/23 01:21 PM

https://torontosun.com/news/local-n...cused-of-shooting-innocent-schomberg-man

a good write up on torrez and company. MS-13 members thats a new angle. very intriguing.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/08/23 07:58 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
^^^^
While the charge of 1st-degree murder might change, especially when more details and a motive emerge, for now the SPVM is stating that Claudia Iacono was not wrongly targeted.

Quebec journalist Pascal Robidas explains this in a tweet:

https://twitter.com/pascalrobidas/status/1666538233423974400?s=46&t=ec5JjzW4kIbijwKywCiI0w

Pascal Robidas @pascalrobidas

Le commandant Jean-Sébastien Caron du @SPVM affirme qu’une accusation de meurtre prémédité a été autorisé par le @_DPCP contre Joel Richard Clark, 28 ans.
On comprend que Claudia Iacono n’a pas été victime d’une erreur sur la personne quand elle a été abattue par balles.

#rcmtl pic.twitter.com/0elJCSck6Z


Ontario man charged with Claudia Iacono's murder facing other charges
https://montrealgazette.com/news/cr...udia-iaconos-murder-facing-other-charges
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/08/23 11:27 PM

^^^^
The suspect was arrested one day after Iacono's murder.

Le présumé meurtrier de Claudia Iacono rapidement arrêté... dès le lendemain du crime
https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvell...rtre-premier-claudia-iacono-enquete-spvm
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/08/23 11:34 PM

Originally Posted by Gambler007
article in the newspaper last Nov states forced retirement but then we hear he might be with the south side chapter now . If he is still part of the south chapter then he is in good standing
https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...chef-des-hells-angels-salvatore-cazzetta


thx considering his ties to the Rock Machine, he became a Hells Angel as late as 2005 he may not have the support like others have.
Posted By: Mafia101

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/09/23 01:15 AM

He was the Montreal president in the 2010s until 2015. He must of done something in the last year or 2 that has made him lose favor with his chapter. He wasn't allowed wearing Hells Angels memorabilia including his vest for a few months last year.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/09/23 01:23 AM

Originally Posted by Mafia101
He was the Montreal president in the 2010s until 2015. He must of done something in the last year or 2 that has made him lose favor with his chapter. He wasn't allowed wearing Hells Angels memorabilia including his vest for a few months last year.


Interesting that seems to indicate a bad standing.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/09/23 04:30 AM

Originally Posted by Gambler007
Del Balso is Done, his lives ran out
https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2023/06/05/le-mafieux-francesco-del-balso-assassine

Basically a few shots to the head in west MTL, near a GYM, more details to come
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/del-balso-shot-1.6866047


Avis de décès pour Francesco Del Balso :
https://www.urgelbourgie.com/fr/avis-de-deces/71153-francesco-del-balso
Posted By: vito_andolini

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/09/23 10:18 AM

Great find anti, I've been looking out for this avis de deces. Thanks for that.

The media seems to point to the Rizzuto thing directly to Del Balso with a Hells backing, all about the Book. Robert and the Hells did the right thing by owning the situation instead of making an even bigger mess.

Now that we can all assume that Iacono had nothing to do with the Rizzuto attempt, I'd love to learn know who she pissed off enough to get whacked the way she did. Who ordered this? Like usual, only time will tell.
Posted By: mike68

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/09/23 01:56 PM

It seems that the 'gang who couldn't shoot straight' was hired to do these hits. Killing the wrong person in Ontario. Shooting a 77 year old man who was mistaken for a 53 year old. Potentially shooting a woman who may have been mistaken for a man. They won't get a good review on the Better Business Bureau, that's for sure.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/10/23 06:24 AM

https://ottawasun.com/news/national...VVI0anfNHGopzMlFQQeT70lhDiGKT1ACtFVWl0Ig

HUNTER: GTA on fringes of percolating Montreal Mafia war
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/11/23 12:35 AM

Originally Posted by antimafia
^^^^
The suspect was arrested one day after Iacono's murder.

Le présumé meurtrier de Claudia Iacono rapidement arrêté... dès le lendemain du crime
https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvell...rtre-premier-claudia-iacono-enquete-spvm


GTA man charged in Montreal Mafia killing was on bail at the time
https://www.therecord.com/ts/news/g...-mafia-killing-was-on-bail-the-time.html
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/13/23 03:44 PM

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...mafia-corner-booth-broad-daylight-murder

‘A perfect night for murders’: Mafia expert Pietro Poletti is back in The Corner Booth
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/13/23 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment
https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...mafia-corner-booth-broad-daylight-murder

‘A perfect night for murders’: Mafia expert Pietro Poletti is back in The Corner Booth


Good stuff C .
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/15/23 04:14 PM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...s-angels-avec-de-nouvelles-perquisitions

Organized crime: Hells Angels at the funeral home where the mafia Del Balso was exposed

Michel Lamontagne, a member of the Hells of the Montreal chapter, was present in particular
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/15/23 05:47 PM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...nerailles-du-mafieux-francesco-del-balso

The leader of the Hells at the funeral of the mafia Francesco Del Balso

Big names of Hells Angels attended the funeral of the mafia Francesco Del Balso, murdered last week in the west of the metropolis, on Thursday.

Less than 100 people were present at the funeral of the 53-year-old man celebrated in the late morning at Notre-Dame-de-Pompei Church in the Ahuntsic district of Montreal.

Among the guests was the most powerful Hells in Quebec - and perhaps even in Canada - Martin Robert, who was accompanied by his wife Annie Arbic.

We were also able to see on the spot the influential members of the criminal gang Stéphane Plouffe and Robert Barletta, in particular.

Francesco Del Balso was killed by several gun projectiles on June 5, when he had just left the Gym Monster, on the edge of Highway 40, in Dorval.

According to our information, he had a meeting with Hells Martin Robert a few minutes before being shot.
Posted By: Giacalone

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/15/23 05:53 PM

Originally Posted by Blackmobs

Among the guests was the most powerful Hells in Quebec - and perhaps even in Canada - Martin Robert, who was accompanied by his wife Annie Arbic.



That's one way to seem innocent lol
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/15/23 07:48 PM

While Italians are killing each other, the Hells are getting stronger.
Posted By: Giacalone

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/16/23 12:03 AM

Is Desjardins out? What is his status?
Posted By: Mafia101

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/16/23 12:27 AM

Out for months and nothing new about him has come out
Posted By: Giacalone

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/16/23 12:34 AM

He must be laying extremely low
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/16/23 04:05 AM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...nerailles-du-mafieux-francesco-del-balso

Other hells present:

Robert Barletta, a specialist in illegal sports betting as was also Del Balso, and a future recruit of the club, Stéphane Orphanos.

Stéphane Orphanos, aspiring member of the Hells.

It is exceptional that the Hells pay a final tribute to a mafioso who, in addition, was shot dead on June 5, and who was the subject of a $250,000 murder contract by his enemies of the Rizzuto clan.

As proof, no Hells Angels was present when godfather Vito Rizzuto, who reigned over the Montreal mafia for decades, was taken to his last rest in 2013.

According to our sources, Kevin Rochebrun, one of the three suspects identified by the police in the attack on Leonardo Rizzuto, was also present at the funeral.
Posted By: Giacalone

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/16/23 04:10 AM

Oh wow that is extremely interesting. Maybe Leo and Stefano are dead men walking lol
Posted By: enricopc

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/16/23 05:05 AM

Originally Posted by Blackmobs
https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...nerailles-du-mafieux-francesco-del-balso

Other hells present:

Robert Barletta, a specialist in illegal sports betting as was also Del Balso, and a future recruit of the club, Stéphane Orphanos.

Stéphane Orphanos, aspiring member of the Hells.

It is exceptional that the Hells pay a final tribute to a mafioso who, in addition, was shot dead on June 5, and who was the subject of a $250,000 murder contract by his enemies of the Rizzuto clan.

As proof, no Hells Angels was present when godfather Vito Rizzuto, who reigned over the Montreal mafia for decades, was taken to his last rest in 2013.

According to our sources, Kevin Rochebrun, one of the three suspects identified by the police in the attack on Leonardo Rizzuto, was also present at the funeral.




Well, I don't get how they say there was no Hells Angels at V. Rizzutos funeral. Salvatore Cazzeta was obviously attending and considered No. 1 Hells Angel in Quebec the following months.

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...tta-le-numero-un-des-hells-au-quebec.php

Rochebrun attending this funeral is really interesting, and kinda weird.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/16/23 05:33 AM

For the guys who are expert in the mafia.

Does the peoples lifting the coffin of a mob guy are important?
Or it can be anybody ?
Wonder who is the black guy lifting the coffin of del baso
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/16/23 11:18 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment

There seems to be a pattern.
They should avoid going to the GYM


June 2009 Dany DeGregorio Mafia was shot and injured near St. Leonard GYM
March 2016 Lorenzo Giordano Mafia shot dead near GYM in Laval
June 2018 John McKenzie West end gang shot and injured near Extreme Evolution gym
Oct 2019 Roger Bishop ties to HA shot dead outside Brossard GYM
Oct. 2019 Andrew Scoppa Mafia shot dead out side West Island GYM
Jun 2023 Francesco Del Balso Mafia shot dead outside Dorval GYM


Del Balso didn't seem like a man who worked out or boxing, mma, kickboxing, but I know plenty of gyms where the underworld is hanging out.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/16/23 11:30 PM

Originally Posted by Mafia101
Out for months and nothing new about him has come out


Just a matter of time, he lost so many people close to him including his brother.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/16/23 11:37 PM

Wow those funeral pictures are great after the big wedding in 2018 another show of strength.

Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/17/23 08:28 PM

GP weekend in Montreal ! One of my favorite F1 races.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/18/23 12:50 PM

^^^^
Les criminels se pavanent, la police observe
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...minels-se-pavanent-la-police-observe.php
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/18/23 01:05 PM

Montreal: a man undergoes an attempted kidnapping

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2023/06/18/montreal-un-homme-subit-une-tentative-denlevement
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/19/23 01:36 AM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Originally Posted by Ciment

There seems to be a pattern.
They should avoid going to the GYM


June 2009 Dany DeGregorio Mafia was shot and injured near St. Leonard GYM
March 2016 Lorenzo Giordano Mafia shot dead near GYM in Laval
June 2018 John McKenzie West end gang shot and injured near Extreme Evolution gym
Oct 2019 Roger Bishop ties to HA shot dead outside Brossard GYM
Oct. 2019 Andrew Scoppa Mafia shot dead out side West Island GYM
Jun 2023 Francesco Del Balso Mafia shot dead outside Dorval GYM


Del Balso didn't seem like a man who worked out or boxing, mma, kickboxing, but I know plenty of gyms where the underworld is hanging out.


June 2009 Dany DeGregorio Mafia was shot and injured near St. Leonard GYM
March 2016 Lorenzo Giordano Mafia shot dead near GYM in Laval
June 2018 John McKenzie West end gang shot and injured near Extreme Evolution gym
March 2019 Michael Deabaitua-Schulde, Hells Angels ,was killed moments after exiting a gym at a busy Mississauga plaza
Oct 2019 Roger Bishop ties to HA shot dead outside Brossard GYM
Oct. 2019 Andrew Scoppa Mafia shot dead out side West Island GYM
Nov.20,2019 Benedetto Manasseri, shot and injured, Movati Athletic GYM on Meadowlands Dr Ottawa
Jun 2023 Francesco Del Balso Mafia shot dead outside Dorval GYM Ottawa

I updated the list. added two more.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/19/23 12:44 PM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...ative-de-meurtre-contre-leonardo-rizzuto

Organized crime: two men charged with attempted murder of Leonardo Rizzuto
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/19/23 01:02 PM

https://montrealgazette.com/news/crime/two-wounded-in-drive-by-shooting-in-saint-leonard

Two wounded in drive-by shooting in Saint-Léonard
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/19/23 01:04 PM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...esses-dans-une-fusillade-a-saint-leonard


Montreal: two men injured in a shooting in Saint-Léonard
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/19/23 01:09 PM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...deux-suspects-officiellement-arretes.php

The two suspects officially arrested
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/19/23 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment
https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...ative-de-meurtre-contre-leonardo-rizzuto

Organized crime: two men charged with attempted murder of Leonardo Rizzuto


Les deux suspects officiellement arrêtés
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...deux-suspects-officiellement-arretes.php

Quebec police arrest two in connection with Leonardo Rizzuto shooting
https://montrealgazette.com/news/crime/two-men-arrested-in-leonardo-rizzuto-shooting-reports

2 men arrested in March shooting of Leonardo Rizzuto in Laval
https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/2-men-arrested-in-march-shooting-of-leonardo-rizzuto-in-laval-1.6446556

Two suspects in attempted murder of Leonardo Rizzuto to appear in court Monday
https://montreal.citynews.ca/2023/0...der-leonardo-rizzuto-to-appear-in-court/

Deux arrestations liées à l’attentat contre Leonardo Rizzuto
https://courrierlaval.com/arrestations-attentat-leonardo-rizzuto-meurtre/

Deux hommes arrêtés de nouveau pour tentative de meurtre contre Leonardo Rizzuto
https://www.noovo.info/nouvelle/deu...-de-meurtre-contre-leonardo-rizzuto.html

Tentative de meurtre contre Leonardo Rizzuto : les suspects arrêtés de nouveau
https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvell...me-organise-complot-rochebrun-barthelemy
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/19/23 05:38 PM

^^^^
Del Balso aurait loué les véhicules dans la tentative de meurtre contre Leonardo Rizzuto
https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvell...o-location-voitures-rochebrun-barthelemy
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/19/23 09:23 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment


The La Presse article has been updated. Same link:

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...do-rizzuto/les-deux-suspects-accuses.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/20/23 04:21 AM

Moins de violence dans le crime organisé ?
https://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2023/06...moins-de-violence-dans-le-crime-organise
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/20/23 02:12 PM

so the police working theory is that the rizzuto/sollecito and HA teamed up to hit del balso to avoid further bloodshed and heat. rochebrun at funeral can finally put to rest theory that pizzi and barberio were allied with del balso in his attempted putsch.
Posted By: Mafia101

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/20/23 06:05 PM

How does Kevin Rochebrun being at Francesco Del Balso's funeral put to rest theories that Marco Pizzi and Davide Barberio were involved in Francesco Del Balso's plot to take out Leonardo Rizzuto?

You're probably right that Marco Pizzi and Davide Barberio aren't involved because the hit was so poorly planned with Francesco Del Balso renting the posches himself. This was probably Francesco Del Balso's idiotic plan for revenge and to get Hells Angels blessing he offered the sportsbook he thought he'd control afte rmurdering Leonardo Rizzuto. But what do we think the attacks targeting Marco Pizzi and Davide Barberio are then? It can't be a coincidence that their businesses were suddenly targeted after Leonardo Rizzuto was shot and are still being targeted. Maybe it's because of their association with Francesco Del Balso.
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/20/23 07:06 PM

well i still cant see pizzi partnering up with del balso to begin with, let alone with full knowledge that a man who once tried to murder him (rochebrun) was part of del balsos crew. second the last confirmed arson or any type of attack against pizzi/barberio dates to may 30. one week later del balso is murdered and not a single arson since. could be a coincidence or not.

the other theory could be that the arsons/attacks against pizzi/barberio have nothing to do with either leonardo or del balso and are part of an ongoing feud with another crime group.
Posted By: Liggio

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/20/23 08:21 PM

Ciment, according to some here, your list is inaccurate because you referred to many gang war casualties as Mafia. According to them there's no Mafia in Montreal or Canada for that matter so don't use that term.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/20/23 08:43 PM

Originally Posted by VitoCahill
so the police working theory is that the rizzuto/sollecito and HA teamed up to hit del balso to avoid further bloodshed and heat.


Why would the leading Hells Angels pay so much respect at the Funeral? Wouldn't they just stay away?
Posted By: Mafia101

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/20/23 09:29 PM

Originally Posted by VitoCahill
well i still cant see pizzi partnering up with del balso to begin with, let alone with full knowledge that a man who once tried to murder him (rochebrun) was part of del balsos crew. second the last confirmed arson or any type of attack against pizzi/barberio dates to may 30. one week later del balso is murdered and not a single arson since. could be a coincidence or not.

the other theory could be that the arsons/attacks against pizzi/barberio have nothing to do with either leonardo or del balso and are part of an ongoing feud with another crime group.


I can agree with that but I can also look at it as it not being personal. Kevin Rochebrun was a hired gun and Marco Pizzi unforunantely was the target. Kevin Rochebrun was or is with/associated with the gang Arsène Mompoint was with. Arsène Mompoint was Sal and Andrea Scoppa's friend and was or supplied shooters for Andrea and Sal Scoppa. Kevin Rochebrun could be one of those shooters for the 2016 attempt on Marco Pizzi who was on their hitlist. Let's not forget Francesco Del Balso was also on that list. Shows that alliances shift and change all the time in Montreal. That is why I don't think we can dismiss Marco Pizzi's possible involvement until more information comes out.

There was a attempted arson on Saturday night at a business Marco Pizzi owns. His guys stopped the would be arsonist and threw him in a trunk of a car a brought him to a nearby garage.

Originally Posted by Hollander
Originally Posted by VitoCahill
so the police working theory is that the rizzuto/sollecito and HA teamed up to hit del balso to avoid further bloodshed and heat.


Why would the leading Hells Angels pay so much respect at the Funeral? Wouldn't they just stay away?


Could be to keep up appearances or they just wanted to mourn a friend.
Posted By: mike68

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/21/23 01:45 AM

Where is Francesco Arcadi in all of this? There hasn't been a peep from him in the media for what seems like years.
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/21/23 04:04 PM

arcadi has indeed been low key since final full release in 2019. he is a respected and most senior member of mafia in montreal. perhaps he is done with all the mayhem and has not involved himself in most recent conflicts. del balso long worked under arcadi...however nothing suggests arcadis involvement in any of this.

as far as HA robert being at del balso funeral it could meen nothing. it is looking more and more like del balso was setup by robert to be murdered likely after feeling pressure from both the rizzuto/sollecito faction and others in HA in quebec. it is not uncommon for mafia funerals to be attended by the very same men who have conspired to kill someone. an example being funeral of gerlando sciascia in ny by massino. all memebers were told to attend even some involved in hit.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/22/23 01:17 AM

It was not only Robert at the funeral several top guys of the Montreal Chapter. Del Balso was close to them but not a member, no need to go unless you want to show your strength. Why would they turn on Del Balso only a few months after the hit on Rizzuto, where at least Robert played a role in it?? I know alliances changes but that is very opportunistic!
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/22/23 02:55 AM

Originally Posted by Hollander
It was not only Robert at the funeral several top guys of the Montreal Chapter. Del Balso was close to them but not a member, no need to go unless you want to show your strength. Why would they turn on Del Balso only a few months after the hit on Rizzuto, where at least Robert played a role in it?? I know alliances changes but that is very opportunistic!


We will get to see in the next few weeks. If things are quiet that means they reached an agreement.
Posted By: Mafia101

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/22/23 03:07 AM

Originally Posted by Hollander
It was not only Robert at the funeral several top guys of the Montreal Chapter. Del Balso was close to them but not a member, no need to go unless you want to show your strength. Why would they turn on Del Balso only a few months after the hit on Rizzuto, where at least Robert played a role in it?? I know alliances changes but that is very opportunistic!


It was 3 members that's not exactly a show of strength. The fourth man there was Stephane Orphanos and is a prospect and could've been there as a bodyguard to the members. There were actually other bikers there that weren't mentioned in the article too and probably there as protection to Martin Robert Stephane Plouffe and Robert Barletta.

I think it's pretty clear this wasn't some well thought out plan to take over the book. It was Francesco Del Balso wanting revenge for them targeting him and in his dumb twisted mind probably thought he'd take over after killing Leonardo Rizzuto and to get the blessing of his Hells Angels friends he offered the book or part of it. When the murder failed and Francesco Del Balso tried leaving the country and the report that the Hells Angels were involved they probably cut ties to Francesco Del Balso to salvage their relationship with Leonardo Rizzuto. They saw Francesco Del Balso was a bad bet and it was better for everyone if he was eliminated.
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/22/23 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by Mafia101
Originally Posted by Hollander
It was not only Robert at the funeral several top guys of the Montreal Chapter. Del Balso was close to them but not a member, no need to go unless you want to show your strength. Why would they turn on Del Balso only a few months after the hit on Rizzuto, where at least Robert played a role in it?? I know alliances changes but that is very opportunistic!


It was 3 members that's not exactly a show of strength. The fourth man there was Stephane Orphanos and is a prospect and could've been there as a bodyguard to the members. There were actually other bikers there that weren't mentioned in the article too and probably there as protection to Martin Robert Stephane Plouffe and Robert Barletta.

I think it's pretty clear this wasn't some well thought out plan to take over the book. It was Francesco Del Balso wanting revenge for them targeting him and in his dumb twisted mind probably thought he'd take over after killing Leonardo Rizzuto and to get the blessing of his Hells Angels friends he offered the book or part of it. When the murder failed and Francesco Del Balso tried leaving the country and the report that the Hells Angels were involved they probably cut ties to Francesco Del Balso to salvage their relationship with Leonardo Rizzuto. They saw Francesco Del Balso was a bad bet and it was better for everyone if he was eliminated.



I interpreted that as a minority of the Hells being present. But we still don't know the circumstances of their absence from the big rally.

When this all happened, I joked.." Is DelBalso a biker now?". But I think Robert and his allies were actually acting too " Italian". Too conniving, cunning, ....and I DO think it was for a share of the Book. Barletta's presence at the funeral kinda speaks volumes as he's a gambling guy. Maybe THE gambling guy for Hells.

Like fuck all the criminal profiles.... I really wish Renaud or someone would break down this Sportsbook network, and exactly how it works. Why is DelBalso even in possession, ( is it SOLE possession?) Of this sportsbook? What exactly qualifies one to be in possession? Is doesn't seem to be exactly territorial, its more about the ledger? Where did this book come from? Gervasi had it. Giordano had it. Valiquette had it. DelBalso had it. What's the criteria exactly?

Was this the same Book Montagna demanded 25 percent of? And Mirarchi balked? So why doesn't Mirarchi have it?


What exactly the fuck....lol




Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/22/23 01:00 PM

I think Robert is actually smarter than what I thought he was. He has the upper hand now that the Italians are killing each other. He didn't need Del Balso once Barletta agreed to join him; he has experience in handling the gambling in Ontario. Barletta is has ties to the Ndrangheta. Which brings a new dimension in all of this. Also don't forget Robert accepted Montreal mafia defectors in his crew which doesn't make him likeable to rivals. I believe he is getting advice from Sergio Piccirilli (who also has connection in Toronto ). How all this is going to unfold is unknown for now; but eventually they will have to sit down at a table and end this once and for all.

Moreno Gallo had the book at one point.

The closest description I found of this book is mentioned in the Business or Blood book, which reads as follows:

"Gallo had run Platinum for Vito. A gambler’s file was made up of significant financial records, such as mortgages and banking information. It also included the names and addresses of a gambler’s parents and other close relatives. This information would be carefully studied before the operators of a sports book determined how much, if any, credit he could be granted. The information also let the sports book operators know where to go calling if a gambler couldn’t make good on debts. That degree of financial diligence could be overlooked if the prospective gambler was related to someone of interest, such as a professional athlete. In those cases, inside information is better for the gambler to run up a major debt, so that the book’s operators could suggest to the athlete that all would be forgiven in exchange for the fixing of a game or the provision on the team."

What puzzles me is what stops the handlers of this book from making copies.
Furthermore and also puzzling, is that there was an informant that mentioned Casale acted as a leader in Mirarchi's group to collect on loans and sports bets.
Are there several clans using this network ?
Posted By: Mafia101

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/22/23 01:26 PM

Francesco Del Balso never controlled the book and Moreno Gallo had Platinum which is different from the Mobtreal book but he apparently gave that away to the Ndrangheta in the GTA.
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/22/23 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by Mafia101
Francesco Del Balso never controlled the book and Moreno Gallo had Platinum which is different from the Mobtreal book but he apparently gave that away to the Ndrangheta in the GTA.



Antimafia has posted that before he died, Vito asked for it back and they acquiesced without incident.

I know the answer is rooted in mob politics, but why the fuck would Gallo give it away? Lol... I need to go back and refresh....
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/22/23 02:36 PM

Originally Posted by CabriniGreen
Originally Posted by Mafia101
Francesco Del Balso never controlled the book and Moreno Gallo had Platinum which is different from the Mobtreal book but he apparently gave that away to the Ndrangheta in the GTA.



Antimafia has posted that before he died, Vito asked for it back and they acquiesced without incident.

I know the answer is rooted in mob politics, but why the fuck would Gallo give it away? Lol... I need to go back and refresh....


Yes Vito did got it back; also mentioned in Business or Blood book.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/22/23 03:17 PM

About Gallo giving it away ? I also asked the same question when it was first reported that he did.

Many members from the Cotroni camp had to decide whether to stay with the Rizzuto's who were receiving immense opposition or go with the new guy from the Bonanno family. Tough decison to make back then.
Remember , the Cotroni's got along fairly well with the Bonanno's for decades. So people like Di Maulo , Gallo, Arcuri's were accustomed working with the Bonnano's.
Others like Vanelli & Mucci , who stayed loyal to the Rizzuto camp, chose wisely. They are still alive but they also had attempts on their lives.

The Rizzuto's proved to be resilient and eliminated many who had opposed them but it came at a great cost for them too.
In hind sight Di Maulo, Gallo and others would probably still be alive if they had stayed with the Rizzuto's.

Presently or in the near future, they may have tentative agreements here and there; but too much blood has been spilled. Many in the Rizzuto clan who are in power have lost their fathers and relatives. The vendetta may still linger for a while.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/22/23 03:32 PM

Quebec police forces target drug traffickers with raids in Montreal and North Shore
https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...s-with-raids-in-montreal-and-north-shore

Excerpt (last paragraph):

According to police sources, one of the people arrested is a 37-year-old man who is one of the two alleged leaders of the group targeted in the investigation. The man is alleged to have ties to the Hells Angels and Montreal Mafia.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/22/23 03:54 PM

https://montrealgazette.com/news/cr...ms-of-cocaine-arrest-ile-bizard-resident

Montreal police seize 38 kilograms of cocaine, arrest Île-Bizard resident
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/22/23 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Quebec police forces target drug traffickers with raids in Montreal and North Shore
https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...s-with-raids-in-montreal-and-north-shore

Excerpt (last paragraph):

According to police sources, one of the people arrested is a 37-year-old man who is one of the two alleged leaders of the group targeted in the investigation. The man is alleged to have ties to the Hells Angels and Montreal Mafia.



I think that the article to which I've linked above is on the same subject as the article to which I've linked below.

La fille de Raynald Desjardins visée dans une enquête de la GRC
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...ins-visee-dans-une-enquete-de-la-grc.php
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/22/23 04:25 PM

well thats some intriguing intell anti good find. a cocaine import network with a link to raynald through his daughter.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/22/23 04:46 PM

^^^^
Google alerts and Twitter notifications are what help me navigate. Currently I can't find the running shoes I was wearing a couple of hours ago when I went out to run an errand.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/22/23 07:44 PM

Originally Posted by Mafia101
Francesco Del Balso never controlled the book and Moreno Gallo had Platinum which is different from the Mobtreal book but he apparently gave that away to the Ndrangheta in the GTA.


Mafia101, I never mentioned that Del Balso had the book. I was referring to Del Balso apparent expertise in online gambling as mentioned in the following:

La Presse June 22, 2023

"Since then, Hells Angels from the Montreal section have sought to seize the "book" of illegal sports betting and loan sharking, historically controlled by the Rizzuto clan. The group of bikers has teamed up with two specialists in online games: Francesco Del Balso, himself a former member of the Rizzuto clan, and Rob Barletta, a former biker from Ontario who joined the ranks of the Hells Angels of Montreal."
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/22/23 08:27 PM

Originally Posted by VitoCahill
well thats some intriguing intell anti good find. a cocaine import network with a link to raynald through his daughter.


Vanessa Desjardins wedding reception was a who's who of Montreal gangsters

https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/wedding-reception-was-a-whos-who-of-montreal-gangsters
Posted By: Mafia101

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/22/23 08:47 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment
Originally Posted by Mafia101
Francesco Del Balso never controlled the book and Moreno Gallo had Platinum which is different from the Mobtreal book but he apparently gave that away to the Ndrangheta in the GTA.


Mafia101, I never mentioned that Del Balso had the book. I was referring to Del Balso apparent expertise in online gambling as mentioned in the following:

La Presse June 22, 2023

"Since then, Hells Angels from the Montreal section have sought to seize the "book" of illegal sports betting and loan sharking, historically controlled by the Rizzuto clan. The group of bikers has teamed up with two specialists in online games: Francesco Del Balso, himself a former member of the Rizzuto clan, and Rob Barletta, a former biker from Ontario who joined the ranks of the Hells Angels of Montreal."


I know you didn't. I was speaking to you and cabrinigreen in my comment.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/22/23 09:18 PM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...fer-pour-le-livre-des-paris-sportifs.php

Montreal mafia: arm wrestling for the "book" of sports betting

Found more info. on the book. La Presse updated Sep 15, 2016

"In the heyday of Sicilian rule in the early 2000s, Colosseum investigators conservatively estimated that mafia sports betting, then run by Lorenzo Giordano and Francesco Del Balso, had generated profits of $26. 8 million over a period of just under a year.

According to our information, the "book", in which all sports betting activities and accounting are recorded, has lost a lot of value due to the conflicts that have plagued the mafia for years, and even more since the natural death of the godfather Vito. Rizzuto, in December 2013."
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/22/23 09:56 PM

Business or Blood page p220

" Gallo didn't seem nervous about trying to come back to Montreal. Did he think Vito hadn't detected the depth of his betrayal ? He was too smart and experienced a man to truly believe that. De he feel he might somehow be forgiven for transferring Vito's sports book to the Toronto area to the Calabrians during his absence ? Other sport books operations had been turned over to Montagna. In Vito's world betrayed accounts were closed with bullets. Gallo knew all this, and yet he agreed to the meeting in the Dominican."

So now we know there are several books.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/22/23 10:18 PM

Online betting has become so hugh around the world.



Hell’s Angels-Operated and Mafia-Linked Online Sports Book Techie Fined $400,000
Posted on: September 13, 2016, 03:00h. Last updated on: October 12, 2016, 03:25h.

Casino.org Staff Writer
Platinum Sports Book
The London, Ontario Hell’s Angels, were in court this week for links to Platinum Sports Book. (Image: Toronto Star)
The tech guy for an online sports book operated by the Hell’s Angels and with links to the Canadian Mafia has been fined CA$400,000 by a Toronto court.

Gordon Baird, 59, pled guilty to being the web administrator of Platinum Sports Book, a credit betting operation with servers based in Costa Rica. Police say Platinum used members of the London, Ontario Hell’s Angels Chapter and the Mafia as bookmaking agents and enforcers.

The sports book was shut down in 2013 following a police raid on a Super Bowl party spread for the site’s VIPs in Toronto. With 2,700 guests and an open bar, the court heard that it cost $100,000 to put on.

Police arrested 31 people at the party and later confiscated $4.6 million in illegal betting proceeds, as well as seizing the PlatinumSB.com domain.

But within hours the gambling ring loaded an identical website using a .tk domain, which signifies registration in Tokelau, a tiny island in the South Pacific.

One Hundred Million in Revenues
Baird, who was not one of the site’s owners, was spared a lengthy prison sentence because he pled guilty and has no previous convictions. He has one year to pay the fine and will receive three years in prison if he fails to do so.

“He was not a controlling mind of the criminal organization but through his actions he contributed to the criminal organization,” said Justice John McMahon, sentencing.

“This was an extremely well-organized, professional criminal organization making millions of dollars,” he added. “It could not have functioned without his technical expertise.”

Police wiretaps revealed that Platinum employed several hundred bookies who catered to thousands of customers within the Toronto area. Company records seized by police show that between 2009 and 2013 the outfit generated over $103 million in revenues.

Sophisticated Pyramid
“The operation is best viewed as a highly sophisticated and organized pyramid-type structure,” court documents read. “The pyramid structure involved a number of ‘cells’ consisting of bookies and their sub-agents signing up bettors/clients. These cells in turn are all connected to the top of the pyramid structure by those managing the organization.”

Meanwhile, in the same courthouse, Rob Bartella, a former president of the London Hell’s Angels, and co-accomplice Andrew Bielli, pleaded not guilty to charges that included bookmaking for the benefit of a criminal organization and possession of the proceeds of crime.

Bartella walked over to watch Baird’s plea after his own case had adjourned.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/22/23 10:23 PM

Barletta, founder of the London Hells Angels chapter, narrowly escaped an attempted shooting on March 30, 2020 in Toronto.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/23/23 03:53 AM

Sergio Piccirilli is def someone to watch he was recorded on wiretaps referring to leaders in the Montreal Mafia as “idiots.” LOL.
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/23/23 05:08 AM

Originally Posted by Ciment
About Gallo giving it away ? I also asked the same question when it was first reported that he did.

Many members from the Cotroni camp had to decide whether to stay with the Rizzuto's who were receiving immense opposition or go with the new guy from the Bonanno family. Tough decison to make back then.
Remember , the Cotroni's got along fairly well with the Bonanno's for decades. So people like Di Maulo , Gallo, Arcuri's were accustomed working with the Bonnano's.
Others like Vanelli & Mucci , who stayed loyal to the Rizzuto camp, chose wisely. They are still alive but they also had attempts on their lives.

The Rizzuto's proved to be resilient and eliminated many who had opposed them but it came at a great cost for them too.
In hind sight Di Maulo, Gallo and others would probably still be alive if they had stayed with the Rizzuto's.

Presently or in the near future, they may have tentative agreements here and there; but too much blood has been spilled. Many in the Rizzuto clan who are in power have lost their fathers and relatives. The vendetta may still linger for a while.



But it's a fascinating thing. Like you said, Gallo was accustomed to working with the Bonnanos, yet he gives control of this book to Ndrangheta, Toronto, not New York.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/23/23 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by CabriniGreen
Originally Posted by Ciment
About Gallo giving it away ? I also asked the same question when it was first reported that he did.

Many members from the Cotroni camp had to decide whether to stay with the Rizzuto's who were receiving immense opposition or go with the new guy from the Bonanno family. Tough decison to make back then.
Remember , the Cotroni's got along fairly well with the Bonanno's for decades. So people like Di Maulo , Gallo, Arcuri's were accustomed working with the Bonnano's.
Others like Vanelli & Mucci , who stayed loyal to the Rizzuto camp, chose wisely. They are still alive but they also had attempts on their lives.

The Rizzuto's proved to be resilient and eliminated many who had opposed them but it came at a great cost for them too.
In hind sight Di Maulo, Gallo and others would probably still be alive if they had stayed with the Rizzuto's.

Presently or in the near future, they may have tentative agreements here and there; but too much blood has been spilled. Many in the Rizzuto clan who are in power have lost their fathers and relatives. The vendetta may still linger for a while.



But it's a fascinating thing. Like you said, Gallo was accustomed to working with the Bonnanos, yet he gives control of this book to Ndrangheta, Toronto, not New York.


You bring up an excellent point Cabrini.
My guess is that he was trying to appease both the Ndrangheta and the Bonanno's and gain favor from both should they succeed to overthrow the Rizzuto's.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/23/23 12:41 PM


Cabrini maybe this may enlighten us.

I forgot to mention that the police intercepted a message days before Montagna got killed and it states that Gallo was helping Montagna by providing documents and weapons.
These documents may include other books.

November 16, 2011

“Clo [Colapelle] read me other messages. These guys are getting dangerous. Mickey told Turkey [Moreno Gallo, a Montreal mafioso who will be murdered in Mexico, in an Acapulco restaurant, November 10, 2013] that everything is fine between you and him. Turkey gave him other documents and weapons. Mickey says he's bringing some guys from New York here to help him." – Mirarchi
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/26/23 03:02 PM

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...hen-a-vehicle-in-a-t-m-r-residential-lot

Arsonists hit used-car dealership in Roxboro, vehicle in a T.M.R. residential lot

The arsonists did not get the memo. Peace treaty ????

Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/27/23 12:52 PM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...incendies-criminels-en-cinq-semaines.php


100 arson attacks in five weeks
Posted By: mike68

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/27/23 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment



So somebody appears to still be unhappy with Pizzi and Barberio. But who? Could it be that they took the side of HA and Del Balso after all?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/27/23 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by mike68
Originally Posted by Ciment



So somebody appears to still be unhappy with Pizzi and Barberio. But who? Could it be that they took the side of HA and Del Balso after all?



I am just as confused right now. I am wondering if these Montreal clans are playing the game of :

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend. The friend of my enemy is my enemy." or “Keep your friends close; keep your enemies closer.”
panic
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/27/23 06:13 PM


There is a lot of unanswered questions at the moment. Like what happened to Scoppa's crew ? Did they disband or are they still together under a new leader and continue to cause havoc ?
Did some switch sides ? Barberio used to work for Devito and later switched. Do some of his old crew still want him dead ?
Did others like Del Balso and Pietrantonio switch to the Hells ?
What about Mirarchi, his influence seemed to have grown ?
What about the Violi brothers or the Ndrangheta they most likely would want a piece of the action in Montreal ?
Are the Hells playing divide and conquer with the Italians ?

I can't see the Rizzuto clan agreeing to any long term agreement. Most of their top members lost their fathers and still have vendetta's against their enemies.

I find there are too many moving parts at the moment.

Maybe Vito Cahill can look in his crystal ball and help clarify ? Both Vito and Mafia 101 came up with good opposing arguments about Pizzi and Barberio last week.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/27/23 09:32 PM

I got the answer to one of my questions .

La Presse article states:

"Barberio, alias Baldy, is also considered by the police to be part of the group of new decision makers in organized crime in Montreal.

According to our sources, he inherited several activities and territories from clan leader Andrew Scoppa following the latter's assassination in October 2019."
Posted By: Mafia101

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/28/23 05:11 AM

I'll try to answer or comment on those questions but of course we don't know what we don't know.

1. I don't think Andrew Scoppa really had a crew. There was Fazio Malatesta who was said to be his connection to cocaine suppliers and I haven't heard anything since his arrest a few years ago. Nicola Valiante was his driver and haven't heard anything with him either. Then there was the other brother Roberto Scoppa and he's involved in illegal dumping with the Gabriel brothers in Kanesatake and Mirabel. More recently in January 2019 he was seen at the same hotel as Hells Angels Martin Robert in Colombia and he denies being there with him. If he did have a larger crew they haven't made a noise since his death and probably joined up with others or are trying to do their own thing. You already posted it but yes Davide Barberio took over Andrew Scoppa's territory in Rivière-des-Prairies after his murder.

2. From what I've come across about the old Joe De Vito group is it was pretty large. After Joe De Vito's arrest and death guys of this crew started branching out on their own or joined up with others. I'm not sure if Davide Barberio is viewed as a successor or a break away but he took over many of Joe De Vito's interests after his death. I haven't seen any tensions or hostilities between any of these guys for moving on.

3. Over the last few years the Hells Angels have provided protection for many of these Mafia outcasts. After Sal Montagna's faction was decimated in 2011/2012 Tony Pietrantonio was basically alone with many enemies. It's possible he had previously established relationships with the Hells Angels that got him his protection or what in my opinion seems more likely is he used his connections to cocaone suppliers as currency and bought his protection. Francesco Del Balso was a bit in the same boat after his release from prison after his arrest in Project Colisée. Many people were upset with the attention he brought on himself and others and wanted nothing to do with him. Not sure what he had to offer the Hells Angels but many it was just his money making abilities. We know he was involved in drug trafficking with them prior to his death.

4. I'm just waiting for something to drop on Vittorio Mirarchi. He has some sort of peace treat with Leonardo Rizzuto and Stefano Sollecito that has held up so far. A article from few years ago said Davide Barberio had contacts with the Mirarchi clan and I believe that still to be the case maybe even more so today based on other things I've come across.

5. I know you didn't say this but the Ndrangheta and Violi involvement in the chaos in Montreal has been greatly exaggerated. There's been very little of anything linking them do any of it. Cooperation is the way with these groups and any activity they have there is not in competition with others. Dom Violi was recorded in 2016 saying they all get along.

6. I think the Hells Angels respect the boundaries between the Mafia and themselves. If it's true about them making a play for the book I've already said I don't think it was some coordinated plan but was a opportunity that Francesco Del Balso offered to them for their blessing to take out Leonardo Rizzuto.

Hopefully we learn why Marco Pizzi and Davide Barberio are being targeted right now.
- Could be because of possible involvement with Francesco Del Balso or their association with him
- Could be unrelated criminal dispute.
- Could it be Marco Pizzi and Davide Barberio are targeting eachother?
Whatever it is it hasn't reached any actual violence on either one yet. My last point is because there doesn't appear to be anyone else targeted in these arsons and shootings. I still find it odd the attacks started near the end of March after Leonardo Rizzuto was shot.
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/28/23 05:48 AM

Originally Posted by Ciment
I got the answer to one of my questions .

La Presse article states:

"Barberio, alias Baldy, is also considered by the police to be part of the group of new decision makers in organized crime in Montreal.

According to our sources, he inherited several activities and territories from clan leader Andrew Scoppa following the latter's assassination in October 2019."




I don't know about this. I think they mean Sal Scoppas territories. Andrew Scoppa had to relinquish his drug territory to a Hells Angel named Yves Leduc, or something like that. From the Scoppa book, he greatly coveted possession of the sportsbook ledger, so I don't think he had gambling territories either.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/28/23 11:44 AM

Good insight Mafia 101. Thanks for sharing.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/28/23 11:48 AM

[Thanks for sharing Cabrini !
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/28/23 11:51 AM

Vito Cahill hasn't answered yet. Which is unusual. He is probably still typing . wink
Posted By: Mafia101

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/28/23 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by CabriniGreen
Originally Posted by Ciment
I got the answer to one of my questions .

La Presse article states:

"Barberio, alias Baldy, is also considered by the police to be part of the group of new decision makers in organized crime in Montreal.

According to our sources, he inherited several activities and territories from clan leader Andrew Scoppa following the latter's assassination in October 2019."




I don't know about this. I think they mean Sal Scoppas territories. Andrew Scoppa had to relinquish his drug territory to a Hells Angel named Yves Leduc, or something like that. From the Scoppa book, he greatly coveted possession of the sportsbook ledger, so I don't think he had gambling territories either.



That was over 15 years ago in 2003. A lot had changed by then in the mid to late 2010s.
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/28/23 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by Mafia101
Originally Posted by CabriniGreen
Originally Posted by Ciment
I got the answer to one of my questions .

La Presse article states:

"Barberio, alias Baldy, is also considered by the police to be part of the group of new decision makers in organized crime in Montreal.

According to our sources, he inherited several activities and territories from clan leader Andrew Scoppa following the latter's assassination in October 2019."




I don't know about this. I think they mean Sal Scoppas territories. Andrew Scoppa had to relinquish his drug territory to a Hells Angel named Yves Leduc, or something like that. From the Scoppa book, he greatly coveted possession of the sportsbook ledger, so I don't think he had gambling territories either.



That was over 15 years ago in 2003. A lot had changed by then in the mid to late 2010s.


So..... what exactly changed, if you DONT think Andrew Scoppa had a crew? Do you think Andrew and his brothers operations were more conjoined than they led on?
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/28/23 03:36 PM

as far as scoppa bros go i have always thought they worked closer together than they let on. the territories they were alleged to control overlapped. the ethnic groups they worked with overlapped and both were deeply entrenched in drug trafficking at a high level. i have an older brother we do not always get along but if push came to shove i'm lining up with my brother against anyone no matter what. so to think that these 2 major criminals were in no way connected and on differing sides from november 2015 on is impossible.

onto remnants of the scoppa brothers cells, both bros had small cells working for them and allies amongst different OC groups in mtl. lebanese mafia and red aligned black street gangs...arsene mompoint et al being one. some names from the proj estacade feb 2017 were nicola valiente, fazio malatesta, marco colella and dany iaconetti. i got no info on colella and iaconetti. malatesta has been non existent since and has not been mentioned at all. valiente pretty much the same except for the fact his wife enza esposito was arrested along with 3 others for gun trafficking in jan 2020. guns were being smuggled from u.s. into qc. so could be that valiente is still active, whether valiente operates his own independent cell or now works for someone else is not known.

i think both scoppas had cells but very small and used there links to street level drug dealers to move narcotics.

onto the old devito crew.
alessandro sucapane was the last leader of this crew,cell,network of drug dealers. not much has been heard from sucapane since his release. sucapane had switched his alliance to the rizzuto side upon vito's release allegedly. as far as whom he lines up with now??? the only other major names from the past are danny degregorio, the padula bros and the paparelli bros. all of the mentioned have been quiet for awhile. however to answer a question about the ongoing arsons and crimes against pizzi/barberio, the possibility exists that these remnants of devito/sucapanes network are attempting to regain there lost territory. all of the above mentioned are out of jail and had controlled drug dealing in cafes and bars in the mtl north/ r.d.p area.

agree with mafia 101 on his point about mirarchi and i have nothing left to add.

the violi bros/buffalo connection appears to have been either a working agreement or the colapelle/albanese/valvano cell was paying street tax to the violi group as has been reported. this info is the only proof of any involvement by an ontario based mafia group directly involved with a mtl based mafia cell. could be true then that most mafia groups are getting along now and trying to work together?
Posted By: Mafia101

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/28/23 03:46 PM

In the book it says in 2011 and 2012, police informants identified Scoppa as
the trafficker who “controlled” the drug trade in Laval and Montreal’s Park Extension, Villeray, Saint-Michel and Saint Laurent neighbourhoods. By the mid to late 2010s this probably had changed due to all the instability in Montreal.

Maybe saying Andrew Scoppa didn't have a crew is improper because obviously someone who has as much as he did going on had guys working for him. What I meant was I don't think he had a close circle of guys around him except for Nicola Valiante and Fazio Malatesta. There's Steve Ovadia who was described as Andrew Scoppa's right hand man but he's dead so not worth bringing up and you have Joseph Chamai who has come up in police reports of a boss of Lebanese organized crime in Laval and Saint Laurent. Joseph Chamai might have been close to Andrew Scoppa and maybe worked for him but I don't know if I'd say he was part of his crew or close circle. Andrew Scoppa was said to be close with the Lebanese most likely referring to Joseph Chamai and the Greeks in Parc extension that I don't know who that refers to.

Not sure how conjoined Sal and Andrew Scoppa were and the book didn't help shine any light on this. They both did their own but Andrew Scoppa looked more like a leader while Sal Scoppa was more like an enforcer doing hits for Stefano Sollecito throughout the 2010s until he decided he wanted to take over. That police informant who was the hitman for Sal Scoppa kept saying Andrew and Vittorio Mirarchi were involved but nothing linked them to it but there are photos of Jonathan Massari and Andrew Scoppa in the summer of 2016. It sounded like Jonathan Massari started working for Vittorio Mirarchi after Sal Scoppa screwed him out of his pay for hits. Could be they were aligned more than people thought. Maybe Andrew felt he had to because at the end of the day that's still his brother and he was the one with the real clout.
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/28/23 04:03 PM

For the record....this is my favorite ongoing dialouge right now....
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/28/23 05:51 PM

I like this dialogue as well . You learn more when brainstorming with several individuals .
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/28/23 06:09 PM

Here are some of the names associated with Andrew Scoppa that came up during drug bust in the past other than those already mentioned.

Tony Teoli, Ivo Korcicak, Marco Bertone, Dany Iaconetti, Marco Colella, Marcelo Paolucci, Steve Bertrand, Bruno Romanelli, Michael Perna , Joseph Farag.

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Posted By: Mafia101

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/28/23 06:47 PM

The Albansese Agostino trafficking cell has historical ties to the old Cotroni and Violi guys and could possibly explain why the descendants of these men were paying money to Dom Violi or what I think is more likely the case is it was a tax for trafficking in and through Dom Violi's area. We know Pat Musitano imposed a tax on all drug traffickers in the Niagara region.

Ciment where did you come across those names? Marcello Paolucci was a Joe De Vito guy way back when and was arrested with Sal Scoppa and many others for the kidnapping of Nino De Bartolomeis. Nino De Bartolomeis is another person I wish we had more info on and am surprised he's still around. Kidnapped in 2008 shot at in 2013 shot at in 2015 shot at in 2016 he's been dodging bullets for the last 15 years. When he was shot in 2016 it was said he was close to Sergio Piccirilli.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/28/23 09:29 PM

Some I probably got from drug busts like I said that had ties to Scoppa and others most likely the kidnapping. I had these names for awhile. Back then DeVito and Scoppa were sharing some of each others men.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/28/23 11:25 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Originally Posted by Ciment


The La Presse article has been updated. Same link:

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...do-rizzuto/les-deux-suspects-accuses.php


Les deux présumés tireurs restent détenus
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...eux-presumes-tireurs-restent-detenus.php
Posted By: Mafia101

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/28/23 11:54 PM

I ask because nothing comes up for me on some of those names.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/29/23 12:53 AM

Originally Posted by Mafia101
I ask because nothing comes up for me on some of those names.


Here are most of the names. With regards to the Kidnapping, De Vito loaned some henchmen to Andrea Scoppa who had pleaded guilty if I recall to the kidnapping. That is why there were some DeVito men mixed up with the original list.

https://www.sq.gouv.qc.ca/communiques/projet-estacade/

http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v03/n1915/a09.html
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/29/23 01:24 AM

Originally Posted by Ciment
Originally Posted by Mafia101
I ask because nothing comes up for me on some of those names.


Here are most of the names. With regards to the Kidnapping, De Vito loaned some henchmen to Andrea Scoppa who had pleaded guilty if I recall to the kidnapping. That is why there were some DeVito men mixed up with the original list.

https://www.sq.gouv.qc.ca/communiques/projet-estacade/

http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v03/n1915/a09.html



One more

https://spvm.qc.ca/fr/Communiques/Details/1113
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/29/23 11:48 AM

https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/old-montreal-restaurant-torched-early-thursday-morning

Old Montreal restaurant torched early Thursday morning
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/29/23 11:52 AM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...ia-vise-par-une-tentative-d-incendie.php


Mafia-linked dealership targeted by attempted arson
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/29/23 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia


Carlos Pena Torrez’s legal matter in Quebec — he’s suspected of trying to kill Francesco Del Balso this past January 29 but mistakenly shot a 77-year-old man instead — will be spoken to today in Laval.

https://www.evernote.com/shard/s229...tM56XWA7hFCxMzKI0JCHj8YwmRPajOqbJB-d1UAg

In Ontario, he faces several charges, one of which is conspiracy to commit murder for the drive-by execution of a man walking his dog in Schomberg, Ontario. York Regional Police theorize that Pena Torrez and others, having been hired by an unnamed organized-crime group, shot the wrong man — this murder occurred 14 days after the bungled attempt by Pena Torrez to kill Del Balso.



Carlos Pena Torrez’s matter is listed in the Courts of Quebec Hearing Rolls once again. The case will be addressed next on July 7.

https://www.evernote.com/shard/s229...fWLem1gc8nfjhaBY3qhd0WIOPz-ZM2l1nscH6tLg

He and his seven co-accused in the Schomberg, Ontario murder (mistaken identity) have all had their matters addressed at least once at the Newmarket courthouse north of Toronto.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/29/23 02:24 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment


Per the REQ:

If the restaurant is Chitalia, its principal is a Dan Hong Huang.

If the restaurant is Inevitable, its principal is an Aldo Arciero.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/29/23 02:43 PM

Originally Posted by Hollander
GP weekend in Montreal ! One of my favorite F1 races.


Deux balles dans la jambe, « c'est chill »
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...eux-balles-dans-la-jambe-c-est-chill.php
Posted By: mike68

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/29/23 04:10 PM

Quote
The businesses and vehicles of Pizzi, Davide Barberio – who was once considered by police to be the street boss of the Italian mafia – and those around them have been the regular target of mischief since the end of March. Arson, attempted arson, gunshots… according to a compilation by La Presse , they have been targeted 13 times since the spring.


Whoever is against these guys is absolutely relentless.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/29/23 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Originally Posted by Ciment


Per the REQ:

If the restaurant is Chitalia, its principal is a Dan Hong Huang.

If the restaurant is Inevitable, its principal is an Aldo Arciero.



I guessed wrong. Article to which I’ve linked below states that the establishment is Restaurant Sauvage. Per the REQ, 1. the restaurant’s principal is a Matthew Guerguerian; and 2. the restaurant also operates under the name Bar Le Joverse 2.0.

Old Montreal restaurant targeted by arson: police
https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/old-montreal-restaurant-targeted-by-arson-police-1.6460989
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/29/23 06:43 PM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...ade-quatre-accuses-plaident-coupable.php

Projet Estacade

Ivo Korcicak, 54, Danny Iaconetti, 46, Robert Griffin, 43, and Marco Colella, 42, were arrested in 2016 as part of an investigation by the regional mixed squad (ERM) of the Rive- North - headed by the Sûreté du Québec - baptized Estacade, and targeting in particular the clan leader of the Montreal mafia, Andrew Scoppa.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/29/23 11:16 PM

Originally Posted by Mafia101
The Albansese Agostino trafficking cell has historical ties to the old Cotroni and Violi guys and could possibly explain why the descendants of these men were paying money to Dom Violi or what I think is more likely the case is it was a tax for trafficking in and through Dom Violi's area. We know Pat Musitano imposed a tax on all drug traffickers in the Niagara region.

Ciment where did you come across those names? Marcello Paolucci was a Joe De Vito guy way back when and was arrested with Sal Scoppa and many others for the kidnapping of Nino De Bartolomeis. Nino De Bartolomeis is another person I wish we had more info on and am surprised he's still around. Kidnapped in 2008 shot at in 2013 shot at in 2015 shot at in 2016 he's been dodging bullets for the last 15 years. When he was shot in 2016 it was said he was close to Sergio Piccirilli.


https://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2016/04/21/la-mafia-se-lie-aux-motards

The article mentions Nino De Bartolomeis linked up with the Devil's Ghost. May be this is the reason he is still alive. Sergio Piccirilli was with the Devils Ghost if memory serves me right.
Posted By: Mafia101

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 06/30/23 01:09 AM

Nice I somehow missed that or forgot about it thank you for that and the links to the other names. Can add him the the list of mobsters to go under Hells Angels protection except it doesn't look like it provided him much so makes you ask the question who he owed debts to?
Posted By: Gambler007

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/03/23 02:41 AM

https://montrealgazette.com/news/two-men-charged-with-attempted-murder-of-man-tied-to-hells-angels

This is the same guy that tried to kill barbieri

https://montrealgazette.com/news/police-make-arrest-in-shooting-of-alleged-montreal-mafia-member

So he kills a HA associate and attempts to also kill Barbieri. Any thoughts on what group wants/wanted Barbieri dead.

Then Leo Rizzuto shooters, one is the same that chased down Pizzi ina Parc and attempted to kill him , would Pizzi forgive and forget and work with these guys who were hired by Del Balso , doubt it.. but pizzi has been seen with Robert, Plouffe, Del Balso and Barberio eating together..
.
So freakin intriguing , I believe that Pizzi is a marked man.

Any thoughts on where these 2 lie in terms of affiliation.

Shooter Gahens Lee Souverain is from MTL-North and is Blue affilated gangster.





Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/04/23 12:58 PM

To all that has been following this war !

Is the war over or are we in the eye of the storm ?
Posted By: Mafia101

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/04/23 02:18 PM

Neither. Think we need to see what's happening with Marco Pizzi and Davide Barberio first but I think we'll see a period of peace again depending on the above like there was after the elimination of Sal and Andrea Scoppa. Still haven't seen a escalation in these attacks on Marco Pizzi and Davide Barberio so that could indicate someone is trying to pressure them into or away from something or maybe they're out of the country and that's why there's been no escalation.

I think if Marco Pizzi and Davide Barberio were truly marked men there would've been some sort of retaliation in the last 3 now going on 4 months.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/04/23 04:44 PM

I agree, it would be nice if these reporters could clarify what is going on with Pizzi and Barberio.
I am also skeptic as to what Martin is scheming. I find it odd that he has accepted, in his crew, former Rizzuto rivals.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/04/23 04:50 PM

I guess it's now safe to have an Italian espresso , in a Montreal cafe, without having to dodge for bullets. lol
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/04/23 09:16 PM

While we are waiting for the next shooting I thought we can play this game.

Can anyone identify all these Montreal OC individuals. I tried and had to look three or four up. I identified all but one.

Attached picture 5272.jpg
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/04/23 10:11 PM

One clue they all have one thing in common .
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/05/23 01:04 PM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...par-un-incendie-criminel-a-saint-leonard

Montreal: a business targeted by arson in Saint-Léonard
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/05/23 03:15 PM

^^^^
If the targeted establishment is GESTION IMMOBILIÈRE CHAMP-D'EAU at 8605, rue du Champ-d'Eau, the federal corporation is registered to an Angelo Diadelfo. I got the federal corporation number from the REQ.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/05/23 03:22 PM

https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/five-vehicles-torched-in-the-east-end-of-montreal

Five vehicles torched in the east end of Montreal
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/05/23 03:42 PM

I think it was Oggi foods that was the target.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/05/23 04:43 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment
I think it was Oggi foods that was the target.


You’re absolutely right. The reporter in the video accompanying the article was near Oggi Foods and mentioned the business by name.

Oggi Foods is a significant enterprise in Montreal that has a New York–based investor: Bregal Partners, a private-equity firm. If you do a search of the REQ, you’ll see that some of Oggi Foods’ principals are with Bregal, i.e., Charles Yoon, Thomas Kearney, Kevin Deemer.
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/05/23 05:18 PM

i'll take a go at pic trivia. no sneak peaks on line. from the top left to right...

joe dimaulo,?,agostino cuntrera,?

?,marco campellone,?,giuseppe renda

?,giuseppe devito,ducarme joseph,nick rizzuto jr.

piero arena,tonino callochia,lorenzo giordano, giuseppe colapelle

nick rizzuto sr.,vincenzo armeni,salvatore montagna,?

paolo renda,moreno gallo,?,?

best guesses...?= i dont know and didnt check. they all dead.
Posted By: Mafia101

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/05/23 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment
While we are waiting for the next shooting I thought we can play this game.

Can anyone identify all these Montreal OC individuals. I tried and had to look three or four up. I identified all but one.

Joe Di Maulo
Ennio Bruno
Agostino Cuntrera
Don't know

Don't know
Marco Campellone
Emilio Cordileone
Joe Renda

Don't know
Joe De Vito
Ducarme Joseph
Nicolo Rizzuto Jr

Roger Valiquette
Tonino Callocchia
Lorenzo Giordano
Giuseppe Colapelle

Nicolo Rizzuto Sr
Joe Di Maulo
Sal Montagna
Vincenzo Scuderi

Paolo Renda
Moreno Gallo
Emilio Cordileone
Domenic Facchini

First row 4th guy and third row 1st guy look familiar but I can't come up with a name.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/05/23 06:10 PM

You did very well ! Two out of the three are the Laramee brothers. I also don't know , who the guy next to DeVito is.

Joe Di Maulo
Ennio Bruno
Agostino Cuntrera
Cody Larmee

Jamie Laramee
Marco Campellone
Emilio Cordileone
Joe Renda

Don't know
Joe De Vito
Ducarme Joseph
Nicolo Rizzuto Jr

Roger Valiquette
Tonino Callocchia
Lorenzo Giordano
Giuseppe Colapelle

Nicolo Rizzuto Sr
Joe Di Maulo
Sal Montagna
Vincenzo Scuderi

Paolo Renda
Moreno Gallo
Emilio Cordileone
Domenic Facchini
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/05/23 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by VitoCahill
i'll take a go at pic trivia. no sneak peaks on line. from the top left to right...

joe dimaulo,?,agostino cuntrera,?

?,marco campellone,?,giuseppe renda

?,giuseppe devito,ducarme joseph,nick rizzuto jr.

piero arena,tonino callochia,lorenzo giordano, giuseppe colapelle

nick rizzuto sr.,vincenzo armeni,salvatore montagna,?

paolo renda,moreno gallo,?,?

best guesses...?= i dont know and didnt check. they all dead.


Yes, they are all dead but I can't account for one because I do not know who he is.
Posted By: Mafia101

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/05/23 07:12 PM

I just saw pictures of the Laramee brothers 2 days ago and didn't recognize them but looking back they look pretty different. The other photo we can't identify kinda looks like Antonio De Blasio but I don't think it is.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/05/23 07:29 PM

Yes there is a resemblance with Di Blasio. He doesn't look Italian so I tried looking at pictures of the west end gang, bikers or drug dealers and didn't come up with anything.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/05/23 07:42 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Originally Posted by Ciment
I think it was Oggi foods that was the target.


You’re absolutely right. The reporter in the video accompanying the article was near Oggi Foods and mentioned the business by name.

Oggi Foods is a significant enterprise in Montreal that has a New York–based investor: Bregal Partners, a private-equity firm. If you do a search of the REQ, you’ll see that some of Oggi Foods’ principals are with Bregal, i.e., Charles Yoon, Thomas Kearney, Kevin Deemer.


Oggi food directory

https://www.zoominfo.com/pic/oggi-foods/370148729
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/07/23 11:28 AM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...tireur-etait-a-90-metres-de-sa-cible.php

The shooter was 90 yards from his target
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/07/23 11:35 AM

This recent article confirms the tensions between both groups.

"According to the police, a conflict between the group of Martin Robert and the Rizzuto clan for the control of sports betting would constitute, among other things, the backstory of the tensions between the two factions which would have started around the summer of 2022."
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/07/23 11:43 AM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2023/07/06/des-coups-de-feu-tires-sur-une-residence-a-terrebonne

Shots fired at a residence in Terrebonne

I don't know if this is related to the on going war in Montreal !
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/07/23 05:50 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment
This recent article confirms the tensions between both groups.

"According to the police, a conflict between the group of Martin Robert and the Rizzuto clan for the control of sports betting would constitute, among other things, the backstory of the tensions between the two factions which would have started around the summer of 2022."


https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...tireur-etait-a-90-metres-de-sa-cible.php

I wonder if the Cazzetta transfer to the south shore chapter of the HA has anything to do with the tensions between Martin and Rizzuto ?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/07/23 06:00 PM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-bar-sasha-pourra-rouvrir-ses-portes.php


The Sasha café-bar will be able to reopen its doors
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/12/23 08:28 PM

Nicola Spagnolo receives three-year sentence for Old Montreal stabbing
https://montrealgazette.com/news/cr...-year-sentence-for-old-montreal-stabbing

Nicola Spagnolo condamné à trois ans de pénitencier
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-condamne-a-trois-ans-de-penitencier.php

Le mafieux Nicola Spagnolo en taule pour trois ans pour avoir poignardé un jeune à la sortie des bars
https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...-poignarde-un-jeune-a-la-sortie-des-bars
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/14/23 12:42 PM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...s-saisies-de-cocaine-sans-precedent.php#

Unprecedented cocaine seizures
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/14/23 12:56 PM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...magasin-de-chaussures-dans-saint-laurent

Montreal: Molotov cocktail launched in a shoe store in Saint-Laurent
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/15/23 02:44 AM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Originally Posted by antimafia
Originally Posted by antimafia
^^^^
No bail for men charged with assault on retired Montreal police officer

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...ault-on-retired-montreal-police-officer/


Man who attacked retired Montreal police detective in his home pleads guilty
Two other men charged in the same case are scheduled to have a trial that begins on Monday.

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...lice-detective-in-his-home-pleads-guilty


Agression contre l’ex-enquêteur Poletti | Un deuxième accusé plaide coupable
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...i/un-deuxieme-accuse-plaide-coupable.php


Two men sentenced for assaulting retired Montreal cop Poletti
https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...assaulted-pietro-poletti-inside-his-home

Neuf et huit ans de détention pour les agresseurs de Pietro Poletti
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...our-les-agresseurs-de-pietro-poletti.php
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/16/23 10:06 AM

https://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2023/07...ux-vise-par-un-incendie-criminel-a-laval

The vehicle of ex-boxer David Lemieux targeted by arson in Laval.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/17/23 11:19 AM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-gages/tire-le-gars-pis-jette-l-arme.php

A contract given by an ex-hitman

"Shoot the guy and throw the gun"
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/17/23 12:12 PM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2023/07/17/montreal-un-individu-blesse-par-balle-a-ville-marie

Montreal: an individual injured by gunshot in Ville-Marie
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/17/23 12:15 PM

https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/downtown-shooting-sends-man-in-his-20s-to-hospital

Downtown shooting sends man in his 20s to hospital
The shooting early Monday at St. Denis St. and de Maisonneuve Blvd. is the third to occur downtown since last Wednesday.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/20/23 11:45 AM

https://montrealgazette.com/feature/what-the-reckless-violence-reveals-about-the-montreal-mafia

What the reckless violence reveals about the transformation of the Montreal Mafia
Posted By: mike68

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/20/23 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment
https://montrealgazette.com/feature/what-the-reckless-violence-reveals-about-the-montreal-mafia

What the reckless violence reveals about the transformation of the Montreal Mafia




Great article
Posted By: DanD

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/20/23 04:53 PM


Originally Posted by Ciment
https://montrealgazette.com/feature/what-the-reckless-violence-reveals-about-the-montreal-mafia

What the reckless violence reveals about the transformation of the Montreal Mafia



Great piece. I accidentally posted the link to the National Post version of the same story. I'll delete now to avoid duplication but yes. a fantastic read.
Posted By: Liggio

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/22/23 03:13 AM

So I read the article from the Gangster Report, and the one thing that stands out to me is when they mention the "continuing rapid and bloody decline of the once thriving Rizzuto Family." Well, if the Hells Angels did in fact kill Francesco Del Balso to appease the Rizzuto Clan, then that would suggest that they're a long way from being in a state of a "continuing rapid and bloody decline."
Posted By: mike68

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/24/23 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by Liggio
So I read the article from the Gangster Report, and the one thing that stands out to me is when they mention the "continuing rapid and bloody decline of the once thriving Rizzuto Family." Well, if the Hells Angels did in fact kill Francesco Del Balso to appease the Rizzuto Clan, then that would suggest that they're a long way from being in a state of a "continuing rapid and bloody decline."


Consider the source.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/25/23 05:51 PM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-le-trafic-de-drogue-au-centre-ville.php

Who manages the drug traffic in the city center?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/26/23 08:39 PM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...incendie-suspect-cause-la-mort-dun-homme

Montreal North: shot dead without anyone noticing anything
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/26/23 08:41 PM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...n-vehicule-a-montreal-nord-a-ete-tue.php
The man found in a vehicle in Montreal North was killed
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/27/23 01:51 AM

Raymond has still a lot of influence !

Arrested in the spring with encrypted phones, the kingpin Raymond Desfossés is suspected by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) of being again at the head of a major drug trafficking network. The career criminal will be subject to strict conditions once his statutory release is obtained.


https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...a-la-tete-d-un-reseau-de-trafiquants.php
Posted By: Liggio

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/27/23 02:15 AM

That's Raymond Desfossés, not Desjardins.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/27/23 02:30 AM

Originally Posted by Liggio
That's Raymond Desfossés, not Desjardins.


Yes I know ! Ray goes way back very dangerous guy. In the summer of 1991, Desfossés was photographed attending the wedding of Milena Di Maulo and Francesco Cotroni Jr., son of Cotroni crime family boss Frank Cotroni, at the Mary, Queen of the World Cathedral in Montreal.
Posted By: Liggio

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/27/23 02:56 AM

Oh
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/27/23 02:33 PM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...e-chez-le-chef-du-clan-des-siciliens.php

The police search the house of the head of the Sicilian clan
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/27/23 02:45 PM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...vra-purger-quatre-ans-de-penitencier.php

Tony Accurso will have to serve four years in prison
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/27/23 02:52 PM

https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/supreme-court-refuses-to-hear-accurso-appeal

Supreme Court refuses to hear Accurso appeal
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/27/23 03:18 PM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...-chez-le-cochef-de-la-mafia-montrealaise

Look like the alliance between Rizzuto-Sollecito-Woolley could be near its end.

Do ya’ll think this could be the end for the rizzuto’s ?

The enemies just got to wait
Posted By: Liggio

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/27/23 04:04 PM

I don't know how you got that it may be the end of the Rizzutos from that article. Please explain further.
Posted By: mike68

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/27/23 04:11 PM

Originally Posted by Liggio
I don't know how you got that it may be the end of the Rizzutos from that article. Please explain further.



I think the rationalization might be that if Sollecito is arrested on murder charges, or passes away due to illness, he takes the muscle for the Sicilian faction with him. Or perhaps the window to take another shot at Leo R. opens again. I'm not so sure about that.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/27/23 04:24 PM

This is just my opinion but I think the end of the Rizzuto's was already heading there with or without this search. There are just too many rivals going after them. The Sicilian clan will still exist as I said before they are resilient and have plenty of Sicilian recruits to draw from but it will not be as powerful as it once was. The HA have rearranged the distribution of power and alliances in Montreal and it does not favor the Rizzuto's. I think there is this new alliances being forged with HA, Hamilton and Toronto mafia's but I could be wrong; it's just a theory of mine. Vito Rizzuto was the glue that held everything together and his departure has left a big vacuum to fill. He even forecasted it himself at the time of his arrest that there will be chaos with his departure. If this search has anything to do with Silva being an informant then it may be sooner than later.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/27/23 05:15 PM

Could we say desjardins is in a good posture now ?
Mirarchi is probably top 3, if not top 2 most powerful mobster in Quebec. And I guess they are still cool ?
And his son is linked to the most powerful HAs in Quebec.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/27/23 05:36 PM

He hardly leaves his house anymore and some say he is on the verge of death, ”said a police source.

Stefano's death could change things again in favor of other groups.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/27/23 06:01 PM

Originally Posted by Blackmobs
Could we say desjardins is in a good posture now ?
Mirarchi is probably top 3, if not top 2 most powerful mobster in Quebec. And I guess they are still cool ?
And his son is linked to the most powerful HAs in Quebec.


I tend to mostly agree with you. I think Martin is protecting Desjardins and I also think Mirarchi is much closer to HA than most people think. He is a good earner and has powerful connections. It's been said that he sometimes drives around with SUV's owned by HA. . If it's true that Mirarchi is really part of the Ndrangheta he may have earned to be in charge of a Ndrine in Montreal with ties to HA. I don't think there will be one supreme leader in charge of all the Italian mafia as there was before in Montreal. I think it will be more likely what there is in Toronto. You have the Ndrangheta coexisting with the other mafia's or HA willing to do business with them. There will be conflicts from time to time but that is part of doing business. Also Barletta ties to the Toronto Ndrangheta and joining Montreal HA will strengthen that relationship. But of course all this is based of theories.
Posted By: Mafia101

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/27/23 06:32 PM

If Stefano Sollecito dies it'll be a huge blow to them but they'll still have the ability to stay as the top clan in Montreal. Leonardo Rizzuto is viewed as a soft leader by a lot of guys in Montreal Stefano Sollecito even held this opinion of him in 2015. It'll be a true test of his leadership ability and he'll have to show people he's capable. Maybe someone else with a better reputation will rise and replace Stefano Sollecito and help keep the balance of power. Someone is bound to challenge them again.

The information Frederick Silva is sharing with police is a big problem for a lot of guys not only with the Rizzutos but others in Montreal. When the arrests happen they'll have major ramifications for the criminal landscape in Montreal.

Originally Posted by Blackmobs
Could we say desjardins is in a good posture now ?
Mirarchi is probably top 3, if not top 2 most powerful mobster in Quebec. And I guess they are still cool ?
And his son is linked to the most powerful HAs in Quebec.


Hard to say because we haven't heard much about him. Andrea Scoppa said Raynald Desjardins and Vittorio Mirarchi were on the outs. Let's not forget his daughter was named in a drug trafficking investigation a little over a month ago linked with the Hells Angels.

Originally Posted by Ciment
Originally Posted by Blackmobs
Could we say desjardins is in a good posture now ?
Mirarchi is probably top 3, if not top 2 most powerful mobster in Quebec. And I guess they are still cool ?
And his son is linked to the most powerful HAs in Quebec.


I tend to mostly agree with you. I think Martin is protecting Desjardins and I also think Mirarchi is much closer to HA than most people think. He is a good earner and has powerful connections. It's been said that he sometimes drives around with SUV's owned by HA. . If it's true that Mirarchi is really part of the Ndrangheta he may have earned to be in charge of a Ndrine in Montreal with ties to HA. I don't think there will be one supreme leader in charge of all the Italian mafia as there was before in Montreal. I think it will be more likely what there is in Toronto. You have the Ndrangheta coexisting with the other mafia's or HA willing to do business with them. There will be conflicts from time to time but that is part of doing business. Also Barletta ties to the Toronto Ndrangheta and joining Montreal HA will strengthen that relationship. But of course all this is based of theories.


Where has it been said Vittorio Mirarchi drives Hells Angels vehicles?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/27/23 06:41 PM

Here you go Mafia 101 :

On page 35 Business or Blood authors Peter Edwards & Antonio Nicasso
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/27/23 07:15 PM

If any body wonders why Mirarchi has nine lives. Consider the following:

La Presse Jul.11,2021

A court document reveals that, according to the evidence collected during the Clemenza investigation - which has never been tested in court -, however, Crivello and Pizzi would have made transfers of more than 2.3 million to Mexico and the United States for imports of cocaine from Vittorio Mirarchi.

The RCMP, which investigated Mirarchi during Project Clemenza, estimates that the young clan leader would have imported or conspired to import 1.4 tons of cocaine during 11 months around 2010-2011, according to court documents.
Posted By: Mafia101

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/27/23 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment
Here you go Mafia 101 :

On page 35 Business or Blood authors Peter Edwards & Antonio Nicasso


Thank you Ciment
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/27/23 07:21 PM

Journal de Montreal Dec. 09, 2019

The message seems to have been well understood. So much so that Vittorio Mirarchi, former associate of boss Raynald Desjardins suspected of having a vast network of narcotics importation, would also have agreed to be part of this new alliance.     

 "Mirarchi will always do his little business on his side, but nobody can do without a guy like that," says a policeman involved in the fight against mafia.     
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/27/23 09:59 PM

Implicated in the assassination of Paolo Violi: an uncle of Vito Rizzuto dies at the age of 89
The landmark murder in 1978 allowed his clan to take over the leadership of the Montreal mafia

One of the uncles who helped Vito Rizzuto become the head of the Montreal mafia died in the last days, at the venerable age of 89.

Domenico Manno passed away on July 22 and his funeral was celebrated today in Montreal.

"He was a remarkable man and a wonderful friend too," read his obituary.

However, Manno had a rather eventful life, marked by various convictions.

He was one of three men convicted for the assassination of Paolo Violi, the predecessor of Vito Rizzuto, then at the top of Italian organized crime in Montreal.

On January 28, 1978, Violi, leader of the Calabrian clan, was shot dead in his Saint-Léonard café, the Reggio Bar.

Manno — the brother-in-law of Vito Rizzuto's father, patriarch Nicolo Rizzuto Sr — had convicted on a conspiracy charge and was sentenced to seven years in prison.

Beginning of the reign of the Sicilians

This attack marked the beginning of the reign of the Sicilian clan over the Montreal mafia. A reign that is the subject of a deadly power struggle after Vito Rizzuto was sentenced to eight years in prison in the United States for his role in three murders committed in 1981.

One of Manno's accomplices was Agostino Cuntrera, sentenced to five years in prison for the same crime. Cuntrera, who later became an influential mafioso, was murdered by a gunman on June 29, 2010, in Saint-Léonard.

Five months later, Vito Rizzuto's father was also shot dead in his Cartierville home.

Drug trafficking

In 2012, Manno was released from a US penitentiary in New Jersey, where he had been incarcerated since 1998 on charges of importing cocaine and heroin into Florida.

He also had to pay a fine of $250,000, an amount he tried unsuccessfully to have reduced.

In recent years, he has been involved in transactions involving land, presumably for real estate development, according to reports published by our Investigation Bureau and in La Presse .

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...e-de-vito-rizzuto-meurt-a-lage-de-89-ans
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/27/23 10:07 PM

Originally Posted by Blackmobs
Implicated in the assassination of Paolo Violi: an uncle of Vito Rizzuto dies at the age of 89
The landmark murder in 1978 allowed his clan to take over the leadership of the Montreal mafia

One of the uncles who helped Vito Rizzuto become the head of the Montreal mafia died in the last days, at the venerable age of 89.

Domenico Manno passed away on July 22 and his funeral was celebrated today in Montreal.

"He was a remarkable man and a wonderful friend too," read his obituary.

However, Manno had a rather eventful life, marked by various convictions.

He was one of three men convicted for the assassination of Paolo Violi, the predecessor of Vito Rizzuto, then at the top of Italian organized crime in Montreal.

On January 28, 1978, Violi, leader of the Calabrian clan, was shot dead in his Saint-Léonard café, the Reggio Bar.

Manno — the brother-in-law of Vito Rizzuto's father, patriarch Nicolo Rizzuto Sr — had convicted on a conspiracy charge and was sentenced to seven years in prison.

Beginning of the reign of the Sicilians

This attack marked the beginning of the reign of the Sicilian clan over the Montreal mafia. A reign that is the subject of a deadly power struggle after Vito Rizzuto was sentenced to eight years in prison in the United States for his role in three murders committed in 1981.

One of Manno's accomplices was Agostino Cuntrera, sentenced to five years in prison for the same crime. Cuntrera, who later became an influential mafioso, was murdered by a gunman on June 29, 2010, in Saint-Léonard.

Five months later, Vito Rizzuto's father was also shot dead in his Cartierville home.

Drug trafficking

In 2012, Manno was released from a US penitentiary in New Jersey, where he had been incarcerated since 1998 on charges of importing cocaine and heroin into Florida.

He also had to pay a fine of $250,000, an amount he tried unsuccessfully to have reduced.

In recent years, he has been involved in transactions involving land, presumably for real estate development, according to reports published by our Investigation Bureau and in La Presse .

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...e-de-vito-rizzuto-meurt-a-lage-de-89-ans


Very good article and post up BM.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/27/23 10:34 PM

That leaves Giovanni DiMora, the other one that was convicted of the assassination. Is he still alive ?
I haven't heard much of him over the past years.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/28/23 01:39 AM

Originally Posted by NYMafia
Originally Posted by Blackmobs
Implicated in the assassination of Paolo Violi: an uncle of Vito Rizzuto dies at the age of 89
The landmark murder in 1978 allowed his clan to take over the leadership of the Montreal mafia

One of the uncles who helped Vito Rizzuto become the head of the Montreal mafia died in the last days, at the venerable age of 89.

Domenico Manno passed away on July 22 and his funeral was celebrated today in Montreal.

"He was a remarkable man and a wonderful friend too," read his obituary.

However, Manno had a rather eventful life, marked by various convictions.

He was one of three men convicted for the assassination of Paolo Violi, the predecessor of Vito Rizzuto, then at the top of Italian organized crime in Montreal.

On January 28, 1978, Violi, leader of the Calabrian clan, was shot dead in his Saint-Léonard café, the Reggio Bar.

Manno — the brother-in-law of Vito Rizzuto's father, patriarch Nicolo Rizzuto Sr — had convicted on a conspiracy charge and was sentenced to seven years in prison.

Beginning of the reign of the Sicilians

This attack marked the beginning of the reign of the Sicilian clan over the Montreal mafia. A reign that is the subject of a deadly power struggle after Vito Rizzuto was sentenced to eight years in prison in the United States for his role in three murders committed in 1981.

One of Manno's accomplices was Agostino Cuntrera, sentenced to five years in prison for the same crime. Cuntrera, who later became an influential mafioso, was murdered by a gunman on June 29, 2010, in Saint-Léonard.

Five months later, Vito Rizzuto's father was also shot dead in his Cartierville home.

Drug trafficking

In 2012, Manno was released from a US penitentiary in New Jersey, where he had been incarcerated since 1998 on charges of importing cocaine and heroin into Florida.

He also had to pay a fine of $250,000, an amount he tried unsuccessfully to have reduced.

In recent years, he has been involved in transactions involving land, presumably for real estate development, according to reports published by our Investigation Bureau and in La Presse .

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...e-de-vito-rizzuto-meurt-a-lage-de-89-ans


Very good article and post up BM.


Obituary for Domenico Manno:

http://www.complexeloreto.com/fr/l-avis-de-deces/domenico-manno/
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/29/23 01:08 PM



According to other sources consulted by our office, in three police forces, three theories are explored to explain the attack on Leo Rizzuto. Here they are:

The first hypothesis is formulated around the revenge that the kingpin Raynald Desjardins maintains against the Rizzuto clan. Since December 2011, a dozen of his friends or associates, including his ex-brother-in-law Joe Di Maulo, have been victims of settling of scores suspected of having been sponsored by the Sicilian clan. At 69, Desjardins is intimately linked to the Calabrian mafia. During an initial release in 2021, investigators found him escorted by a bodyguard in possession of registration numbers linked to vehicles of members of the Rizzuto clan.

The second hypothesis revolves around an attempt by Calabrian Vittorio Mirarchi to wipe the name of the Rizzutos off the map. Mirarchi was also the protege of Raynald Desjardins, but the strength of his support in the 'Ndrangheta in Ottawa and Toronto made him an extremely powerful criminal. He and Raynald Desjardins are now free after serving time in prison for planning the murder of would-be godfather Salvatore Montagna in 2011.
Posted By: Liggio

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/29/23 01:23 PM

I thought the Rizzutos killed Salvatore Montagna? It was the Calabrians?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/29/23 01:26 PM

I started a new thread based on Sicilians vs Calabrians. The media in the interest of generating more money are fixated on promoting the fact that Calabrians want to wipe out Sicilians and the same could be said about Sicilian wiping out Calabrians. But is it really the truth. The Arcuri's ,Sciara, Gervasi , Montagna and other were Sicilians who did not side with the Rizzuto's. Musitano Calabrese clan sided with the Rizzuto's. I could go on but I don't want to steal the thunder from the new thread I posted minutes ago.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/29/23 01:28 PM

Originally Posted by Liggio
I thought the Rizzutos killed Salvatore Montagna? It was the Calabrians?


They wanted to eliminate him but Desjardin and Mirarchi got to him first.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/29/23 06:27 PM

Do someone knows were the mafia clan from Granby (D’Amico family) stand in all of this ?
Before the wars of the Rizzuto’s, the D’Amico’s and the Rizzuto’s almost went to war in 2004.

https://www.lapresse.ca/dossiers/op...9-guerre-de-clans-evitee-de-justesse.php

Clan war narrowly avoided

A Granby family used threats and intimidation for two years to recover $900,000 from leaders of the Rizzuto clan, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police have learned during their investigation into the Sicilian Mafia. The conflict almost degenerated into a bloody war.

In a 131-page document accompanying its requests for search warrants, the RCMP recounts this episode in detail, under the title The organization (the Rizzuto clan) experiences a conflict with the D'Amico family of Granby. In January 2004, the chief of the clan, Vito Rizzuto, was arrested at the request of the Americans who accused him of having been involved in a triple murder on behalf of the Bonnano family of New York. His lieutenant, Francesco Arcadi, takes the lead. A month later, Luigi D'Amico telephoned him from his son's restaurant, La Trattoria Saint-Charles, in Granby, to make an appointment.

Late in the afternoon, hidden RCMP cameras reveal the presence of Arcadi, Luigi d'Amico and his son Tiziano in the back office of the Le Consenza social club, which serves as the clan's headquarters. Rizzuto, in Saint-Leonard. We don't know what the men said to each other. But in August 2005, Arcadi explains to a sidekick that the "bikers" of Granby wanted to "cut off his head". He adds that Luigi d'Amico came to him and begged him to meet his other son, Patrizio. Arcadi refused.
Kidnapping

In the same chapter, the RCMP recalls the circumstances of the kidnapping, on Halloween night, of Nicola Varacalli, a man from the Rizzuto clan, close to Francesco Arcadi. The police do not know who the kidnappers are. But it seems that these kidnapped Varacalli to send a message to the Rizzuto clan. Anyway, Arcadi “mentions that in truth he is scared and keeps his eyes open.” He says "there's no more money there, just leftovers."
Negotiations continue with the kidnappers. The RCMP captures a multitude of conversations. Thus, in the Laennec bar, another haunt of the Rizzuto clan in Laval, an Arcadi henchman, Lorenzo Giordano, mentions the name of Patrizio D'Amico, which he associates with the "Frenchmen" (the Hells Angels). He suggests paying half a million dollars now and $400,000 later when Varacalli is released.
A few days after this conversation, Luca D'Amico, Patrizio's cousin, walks into Le Consenza and comes out almost immediately. He delivered a letter to Arcadi, addressed to Nick Rizzuto, Vito's father. Arcadi reads the letter aloud. Clandestine RCMP microphones pick up much of the reading. The author of the letter “seeks a compromise to a dispute, which he believes only Nick Rizzuto can resolve”. A week later, on December 8,
Varacalli is released

But nothing seems to be settled. Two days before Christmas, Patrizio, Luca D'Amico and a third man enter Le Consenza. One of them carries a weapon. The three men come out of the bar and wave to other drivers. A procession of eight vehicles leaves the place. Arcadi is informed and calls his troops to be careful, because "the crazy guy (Patrizio D'Amico) is around".

Arcadi himself is filmed with a gun to the hip. Bodyguards are posted in front of Le Consenza and inside. They accompany the chefs on their travels. Nick Rizzuto, who leads the clan in the absence of his son Vito, brings in four men from Venezuela, most likely killers. It's Patrizio D'Amico's turn to be scared. He advises a relative “to move before they get ready”.
restaurant closed

It is unclear whether and how the conflict was resolved. La Presse tried to reach the D'Amicos, but to no avail. La Trattoria restaurant is closed. The RCMP continues its story by recalling the murder of Domenico Macri, last August, but does not link it to the conflict with the D'Amico family. Arcadi, obviously, feared for his life: he disappeared from circulation for two months. Eager to keep the fort, his henchmen, Francesco Del Balso and Lorenzo Giordano, procured armored vehicles and were accompanied by bodyguards.
The day before Macri's funeral, officers saw three gang members with submachine guns and a pistol in a warehouse garage that served as the Italian clan's weapons cache on Saint-Laurent Boulevard in northern Montreal. A week later, the anti-gang brigade raided the area and seized four high-caliber automatic weapons, magazines, several boxes of bullets and two bullet-proof vests.
The D'Amicos were not arrested, unlike most of the leaders of the Rizzuto clan, starting with Nick, Paolo Renda, Rocco Sollecito, Francesco Arcadi and Francesco Del Balso. An arrest warrant has also been issued against Lorenzo Giordano, but he has not been found since the raid on November 22.




Posted By: Liggio

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/29/23 06:40 PM

Amazing that there's really no photos of the D'Amico clan. Are they Sicilian?
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/29/23 06:41 PM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-mafieux-de-granby-menace-dexpulsion.php

During this conflict, an individual with links to the mafia and bikers, Sergio Piccirilli, entered the Consenza displaying a weapon. He and his men also prowled around the café for several days. The soldiers of the Rizzuto clan responded by chartering a helicopter which they allegedly fired with an AK-47 on the roof of the house of one of Luigi D'Amico's sons.


Thats crazzzyyyy…. The granby guys were prepare to do drive-by, hits
The rizzuto’s replied with a shooting from an helicopter wtf….
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/29/23 06:46 PM

Originally Posted by Liggio
Amazing that there's really no photos of the D'Amico clan. Are they Sicilian?


I just put another article about the D’Amico. There a picture of Luigi D’Amico. But the article don’t say were they are from.

But I wonder why a mafia family made granby there base of operation. Like the only thing granby is known for is its zoo (and i’m not kidding)
Posted By: Liggio

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/29/23 07:10 PM

What clan does Sergio Piccirilli belong to? I hate how in Canada mob guys don't have clearly defined roles and ranks and membership unlike in the US.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/29/23 07:20 PM

Sergio Piccirilli is from the D’Amico clan of Granby.


For the ranks, i really don’t know.
Posted By: Mafia101

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/29/23 07:26 PM

Luigi D'Amico was deported back Italy but I don't know where in Italy and I think it's a good chance he's passed away by now. The last report had at least one of the sons has been living in the Dominican Republic and the government was going after them pretty hard for owed taxes that added up into the millions.

It's said the Silvano brothers are running the drugs in Granby now.


Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/29/23 07:32 PM

Crazy that many factions of organized crime from montreal operate in the dominican republic.
The rizzuto’s had or maybe still have casinos over there.
The quebec HAs open a HA chapter in the dominican republic.
And many haitian gangsters from montreal have houses, clubs in the DR.
Also there are prostitution rings in the DR run by haitians from montreal.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/29/23 07:55 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment
They wanted to eliminate him but Desjardin and Mirarchi got to him first.


Yep the Rizzuto’s would have hit him but the failed hit on Desjardins by Roger Valiquette (if we believe Andrew Scoppa) changed everything and caused Desjardins to kill Montagna with Mirarchi’s help.

Also on the theory someone posted about Mirarchi possibly being behind the failed hit on Leo Rizzuto, I thought Mirarchi made peace with the Rizzuto’s around the time the story leaked that Mom and crew (with Rizzuto help) was planning to hit Raynald in prison? Wasn’t there a story claiming that or am I wrong? We haven’t heard much of anything about Vic and Raynald’s partnership since he’s gotten out of prison
Posted By: Liggio

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/29/23 08:57 PM

The rule of thumb here is, once you become powerful, it's only a matter of time before someone challenges you.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/30/23 04:32 PM

I think if Leonardo is replaced , the next leader will be of Sicilian origin from Cattolica Eraclea or Siculiana not necessarily born there. No matter how loyal Sollecito is, he does not qualify.
Posted By: Mafia101

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/30/23 06:42 PM

I'll disagree with that. Right now as far as we know Leonardo Rizzuto and Stefano Sollecito are co leaders. Both are equal neither out ranks the other. But we know that Stefano Sollecito is more respected and Leonardo Rizzuto is viewed as weak. If something were to happen to Leonardo Rizzuto I don't think anyone would replace him as this equal co leader with Stefano Sollecito.
Posted By: enricopc

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/30/23 09:46 PM

There were the tapes that had Sollecito implicate Leonardo is weak, right? Any other sources? I don't know how accurate the Scoppa book is, but it made Sollecito look like a greedy guy who kills too many people for too little reason, when I remember right. And even Vito was telling Scoppa murders were not coming from him, but people were pushing him to authorise them. Maybe that's what he wanted Scoppa to think. Maybe that's what he wanted Scoppa to tell everybody he was talking to. And right now, it seems things like that are whats getting Sollecito into trouble through Silvas cooperation. So the ill guy near death, who got lot of competition out of the way, will soon take the blame and others get a pass?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/31/23 03:21 PM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...vise-par-un-incendie-criminel-a-montreal

“Significant damage”: a restaurant targeted by an arson attack in Montreal
Posted By: Liggio

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/31/23 04:41 PM

What's up with all of these arsons? Just kill whoever you wanna kill already.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/31/23 04:56 PM

Some of the arsons are linked to the mafia.
But many of them are also link to lebanese organized crime. Specially in Laval. Many restaurants don’t want to pay for protection, so they burn their buisness.
And the owner has to close, because the insurance doesn’t want to insured them again.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/31/23 05:32 PM

That is right, and if you happen to own a house next door to these Cafe's/restaurant . The insurance companies will make you pay high premiums.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 07/31/23 08:24 PM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...e-stupefiants/cinq-suspects-arretes.php#

Five suspects arrested
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/02/23 04:25 PM

Le commerce d’un mafieux visé par une attaque :
https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2023/08/02/un-commerce-vise-par-des-projectiles-a-montreal-est
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/02/23 04:30 PM

It's amazing, someone really dislikes this guy. They are relentless.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/02/23 09:11 PM

^^^^
Des coups de feu visent un commerce lié à un mafieux
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-visent-un-commerce-lie-a-un-mafieux.php
Posted By: mike68

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/03/23 04:30 PM

Could all of this aggression towards Pizzi be because he linked up with HA, similar to Del Balso?
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/03/23 08:19 PM

with pizzi at this point who knows?

a few theories though or possible enemies.

1. the rizzuto/sollecito faction, still being led by leonardo and stefano.

2. davide barberio-these 2 were thought to have partnered up to control r.d.p and mtl north, perhaps there was a falling out.

3. another as yet unknown mafia cell clearly using young fearless street gang members/associates.


who it is not

1. francesco del balso-he is dead, and no known close associates have been alleged to have taken up his rackets.

2.a mexican cartel- i say this only because pizzi has been long described as a high level cocaine importer, however as most on here would agree the cartels do not play around with arsons and pot shots at cars. the M.O. being used is straight up mtl mafia 101 so i think we can eliminate any cartel.

3. HA - if pizzi is alleged to be allied with them (robert/plouffe faction) and was with del balso then what chapter would be instigating these assaults?

-a reason for this continued aggression also has yet to be revealed. is it over the book/gambling, an unpaid drug debt or failed import???
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/05/23 06:47 PM

Originally Posted by Mafia101
I'll disagree with that. Right now as far as we know Leonardo Rizzuto and Stefano Sollecito are co leaders. Both are equal neither out ranks the other. But we know that Stefano Sollecito is more respected and Leonardo Rizzuto is viewed as weak. If something were to happen to Leonardo Rizzuto I don't think anyone would replace him as this equal co leader with Stefano Sollecito.


Agreed, if Stefano is still active (many rumors say his cancer has had him out) he’s definitely the boss if Leonardo is killed or goes away. Don’t forget that Vito also put Arcadi in charge on the street when he was deported so I don’t think birthplace matters much.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/07/23 12:20 AM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-de-coiffure-evacuations-preventives.php

Arson in a hair salon, preventive evacuations

(Montreal) An arson attack targeting another business in Montreal forced the evacuation of tenants located nearby, in the middle of the night, as a preventive measure.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/08/23 12:33 PM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...un-vus-detruit-par-le-feu-lundi-soir.php


An SUV destroyed by fire on Monday evening
Posted By: streetbossliborio

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/09/23 09:55 PM

Canada is the Wild West. I find it insane the amount of mob related hits/violence here, and the US there isn’t any really. The hits over the last 15 years must be into 4 figures+.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/14/23 07:11 PM

Meurtre de la belle-fille d’un mafieux: le «cerveau» de l’assassinat arrêté à Toronto
https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...no-un-deuxieme-suspect-arrete-en-ontario


Le SPVM arrête un deuxième suspect
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...o/le-spvm-arrete-un-deuxieme-suspect.php
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/14/23 07:51 PM

According to our information, Ms. Iacono would have been the victim of a mistake about the person and it was her spouse who would have been targeted that day.
According to our sources, the attack that resulted in the death of Ms. Iacono was a response to the attempted murder of Leonardo Rizzuto, youngest son of the late mafia godfather Vito Rizzuto, on March 15 in Laval. .

What do ya’ll think about the husband ?
He probably wanted to revenge is father’s death.
But now, he lost his wife. And probably will want more revenge.

And do ya’ll think the rizzuto’s got no choice but to kill him ?
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/14/23 07:56 PM

Also the lapresse and the journal de montreal have two conclusion about the hit.

Lapresse:

According to our information, Ms. Iacono would have been the victim of a mistake about the person and it was her spouse who would have been targeted that day.
According to our sources, the attack that resulted in the death of Ms. Iacono was a response to the attempted murder of Leonardo Rizzuto, youngest son of the late mafia godfather Vito Rizzuto, on March 15 in Laval. .

Journal de montreal:

Everything suggests that the murder of Claudia Iacono was not a mistake on the person and that the businesswoman was indeed the target of this attack.


So the two news say two different things.
She was the target and she was not the target…. What do ya’ll think ?
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/14/23 08:51 PM

Considering Anthony Gallo has been targeted since his father was shot dead in Mexico, he was probably the target again.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/14/23 11:20 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Meurtre de la belle-fille d’un mafieux: le «cerveau» de l’assassinat arrêté à Toronto
https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...no-un-deuxieme-suspect-arrete-en-ontario


Le SPVM arrête un deuxième suspect
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...o/le-spvm-arrete-un-deuxieme-suspect.php


Both articles have been updated to add the name of this newest suspect: Tyranne Andre Greenidge.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/15/23 02:35 AM

^^^^
Second suspect arrested in killing of former Mafia leader's daughter-in-law
https://montrealgazette.com/news/crime/police-arrest-second-suspect-in-claudia-iacono-killing

Second arrest in shooting death of Claudia Iacono, Montrealer killed in May
https://montreal.citynews.ca/2023/08/14/claudia-iacono-second-arrest-shooting-death/

Police arrest second suspect in Ontario in Claudia Iacono killing
https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/police-...ario-in-claudia-iacono-killing-1.6518725

Un deuxième suspect arrêté dans l’affaire du meurtre de Claudia Iacono
https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/2003195/meurtre-claudia-iacono-arrestation-mafia-montreal
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/15/23 03:18 AM

THE INVESTIGATION

Canada at gunpoint, the great war for the control of coca in the port of Montreal: a long trail of blood between bosses of Italian origin
Canada-investigation: the drug war for control of the port of Montreal is bloodying the country

July 29, 2023 at 07:00
2 minute read

Canada at gunpoint, the great war for the control of coca in the port of Montreal: a long trail of blood between bosses of Italian origin
You don't need followers, who are many (37,000), to tell the figure (and the genesis) of the murder of Claudia Iacono, mother of two, killed at 39 in Montreal at 4.28 pm on 18 May last. Parking of the Salon Deauville between Jean-Talon and De La Savane streets in Montreal, six shots fired while the woman is parking the SUV in the "Il Triangolo" shopping area. Mafia ambush. Doubts? Zero.

Because more than social networks are related: Claudia was the wife of Anthony Gallo, daughter-in-law of Moreno Gallo, boss of the Canadian Cosa Nostra, in the past historically linked to the Rizzuto clan (later betrayed by him) killed on November 10, 2013 in Acapulco with nine shots gun from a killer dressed in black who surprised him at the table (at dinner) in the "Forza Italia" restaurant. Three months ago, Leonardo Rizzuto, son of the boss Vito escaped an ambush on the provincial highway 440 in the jurisdiction of the Sûreté du Québec. Two of him shoot 6 9-gauge shots at him, the side of the Mercedes GLE 53 becomes Swiss cheese, they wound him in the shoulder and chest, he manages to continue his run by hiding in the parking lot of a funeral home. Miraculously alive.

Courses and appeals. Bullets bouncing from field to field. Blood calling for blood. Keep an eye on the dates: November 10, 2010 - the same day and month as Gallo - Nick Rizzuto was killed. He was having lunch at home in Montreal, a sniper shot him with a precision pointer. A sniper. He died at 86 years old. Exchange of rude anniversaries, one might say.

For Canadian investigators - ca va sans dire - the track sinks into this never dormant war between Calabrian and Sicilian criminals, a decades-long "question and response", interspersed with fragile mafia pax that roots in times when - that is - the Rizzuto organized the "Sicilian takeover" in 1978, of the Montreal mafia by the Cotroni organization, people from Calabria. A feud with losses (dozens of dead) for both groups: bosses, solicitors, traffickers and drug dealers, businessmen and half-socks: lead does not question origin and rank.

Antonio Nicaso, essayist, university professor of organized crime in Quebec


But is this enough? Is the ancestral call of revenge, the revenge DNA of mafia and para-mafia groups enough to explain the long trail of blood that colors the map of crimes in North America? It really seems like no. Antonio Nicaso, essayist, university professor of organized crime in Quebec, appropriately widens the compass and his analysis converges with that of several investigators. At stake would be control of the port of Montreal, a "central port of call for the drug market from (and to) New York," he says. Immense spaces, boundless businesses that perhaps also tell why - in these parts - between 2017 and 2019 seven drug traffickers were killed. Detail: based on personnel and investments in the port in question - and until recently - only 20/25 containers were checked per day: less than 1% of those landed on the docks from all over the world. And then there is the soft underbelly of border territories: Indian reservations where there is no national sovereignty. "They are ideal corridors for transporting drugs and weapons." It is no coincidence that the Canadian route is considered one of the most appropriate for attributing the so-called "virginity license" to containers with respect to the risk parameters used by the border police in investigating shipments also linked to transit ports.

"Moreover - adds Nicaso - there is the theme of synthetic drugs in whose trials Canada is the leading country in the world". Another planetary business. “By now in North America, Fentanyl has completely supplanted cocaine. They are very strong drugs and they cost less - explains the teacher - they have synthesized heroin, they are synthesizing cocaine with pink cocaine, they have synthesized cannabinoids with a much higher thc and a lower cost than, for example, that guaranteed in countries where marijuana has been legalized.

The 'Ndrangheta is not competing for this world: an equation, this, betrayed by the official papers that disengage the Calabrian group of the Rizzuto clan from a pure affiliation. Instead, there is a criminal "melting pot" that records "Calabrian, Sicilian, Apulian and even French-Canadian components," says Nicaso. And the 'Ndrangheta? He doesn't participate in the war, he dribbles in midfield and observes: «Clearly, if the Calabrian component of the Rizzutos were to win, they would benefit from it». But the surnames that return – Mammoliti, Montagna, Violi, Luppino – are only descendants. Far enough away for no one from Calabria to intervene to stop the hostilities.

https://www.lastampa.it/esteri/2023...p;state=91073b3fced2477ebab6ec196b7d442f
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/15/23 09:55 PM

Originally Posted by Blackmobs
Also the lapresse and the journal de montreal have two conclusion about the hit.

Lapresse:

According to our information, Ms. Iacono would have been the victim of a mistake about the person and it was her spouse who would have been targeted that day.
According to our sources, the attack that resulted in the death of Ms. Iacono was a response to the attempted murder of Leonardo Rizzuto, youngest son of the late mafia godfather Vito Rizzuto, on March 15 in Laval. .

Journal de montreal:

Everything suggests that the murder of Claudia Iacono was not a mistake on the person and that the businesswoman was indeed the target of this attack.


So the two news say two different things.
She was the target and she was not the target…. What do ya’ll think ?


After having done a fair bit of genealogical research, what I am 100% certain about is that the murder victim's parents have ancestry from the hometown in Sicily from where the Rizzutos and the Rizzutos' relatives descend.

What I am 99.99% certain about is that the murder victim is the niece of Nicolò Miloto, alias "Mr. Sidewalk," or «M. Trottoir», who of course became famous for his testimony during the Charbonneau Commission inquiry.

The Service de police de la Ville de Montréal (SPVM) has stated that the murder victim was targeted. There is now a second suspect charged in this murder: the man from Ontario who is believed to have planned it.

If the murder victim's husband was in fact the real target, whoever gave the order in Quebec probably would have gone to great pains to stress that there must be no mistake when identifying and locating this target because of who the target's wife is -- that is, the target is the husband, and the wife can't be harmed in any way because of her ancestry.

Despite the growing number of cases in Ontario and Quebec of mistaken identity in organized-crime shootings this year and in the past -- especially 1. the shooting this past February in which suspected MS-13 members in Ontario allegedly botched a drive-by in that province, and 2. the incident this past Feburary in which one of those suspected members allegedly botched a drive-by in Laval by shooting an older man instead of alleged target Francesco Del Balso -- there is still reason to believe that the murder victim could have indeed been targeted.

Again, playing devil's advocate, I think that if sources in Quebec with inside knowledge of the murder are talking to Quebec-based journalists but not the police, the sources probably have intel that is likely as good as what the SPVM has.

Coincidentally, some of the online condolences posted under the obituary for the recently deceased Domenico Manno include those from Ninetta Randisi and daughter Francesca Marsala of the Rizzutos’ hometown in Sicily — these two women posted online condolences when Claudia Iacono’s uncle Antonino died in July of last year.
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/16/23 01:02 AM

this thread has over a million views...that has to be a record.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/16/23 01:06 AM

This thread is like a broken record. wink
Posted By: mike68

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/16/23 01:10 PM

Quote
The federal Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act originated in 1970 as a tool to fight organized crime. The law enabled prosecutors to target people in positions of authority within a criminal organization, not just lower-level people doing the dirty work.


If Canada really wants to cut down on organized crime violence, they need to adopt something similar to RICO due to the above definition. Right now, they are only arresting the 'doers' of the dirty work. But the ones who actually pull the strings walk free. The last NY mob hit, Meldish, took down the whole administration, anyone who even nodded their heads. That's the difference.
Posted By: Liggio

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/16/23 04:14 PM

Why do we have people here championing the government? Saying we need more laws and shit. And there's still quite a few 21st century unsolved mob hits in America, not on the scale of Canada but still. A lot of hits going on up there go beyond organized crime too, many are personal. Not much RICO can do when human emotions are involved
Posted By: Liggio

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/16/23 04:20 PM

I take that back, we do need to cut back on the violence up there, I just hope they don't end up with the MobTube shit show we have in America where everyone has a channel and no one's scared anymore.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/16/23 06:08 PM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...-hells-detruite-par-un-incendie-criminel

Organized crime: the residence of an influential Hells destroyed by arson

The luxurious residence of the influential Hells Robert Barletta was destroyed by arson on the night of Tuesday to Wednesday, in Saint-Jérôme, in the Laurentians. The house would be a total loss and the damage would amount to several hundred thousand dollars.

Barletta was also a member in good standing of the London chapter of the Hells Angels when he was "recrued" by his Quebec colleagues in the Montreal chapter for his expertise in illegal sports betting, according to our sources.

Robert Barletta is currently being investigated by the Sûreté du Québec for his alleged involvement in a large drug trafficking network led by the Hells Angels. His "brothers" bikers Martin Robert, Stéphane Plouffe and Michel Lamontagne are also targeted by this same investigation.

The four bikers were seen together on June 15 in Montreal at the funeral of the mafia Francesco Del Balso, murdered a week earlier in the west of the metropolis.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/16/23 06:22 PM

That is big news, it will surely ignite a feud. Who would be bold enough to commit such an act to a HA member ? This is an attack on Martin's crew.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/16/23 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment
That is big news, it will surely ignite a feud. Who would be bold enough to commit such an act to a HA member ? This is an attack on Martin's crew.


Let's just say that Barletta's rented residence in Quebec has been targeted more than once. Stay tuned.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/16/23 06:29 PM

Yes you are correct, after I send the messaged I recalled that that incident in Ontario.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/16/23 06:34 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment
Yes you are correct, after I send the messaged I recalled that that incident in Ontario.


No, I mean the unreported arson attacks on Barletta's rented house in Saint-Jérôme.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/16/23 06:41 PM

Originally Posted by Blackmobs
https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...-hells-detruite-par-un-incendie-criminel

Organized crime: the residence of an influential Hells destroyed by arson

The luxurious residence of the influential Hells Robert Barletta was destroyed by arson on the night of Tuesday to Wednesday, in Saint-Jérôme, in the Laurentians. The house would be a total loss and the damage would amount to several hundred thousand dollars.

Barletta was also a member in good standing of the London chapter of the Hells Angels when he was "recrued" by his Quebec colleagues in the Montreal chapter for his expertise in illegal sports betting, according to our sources.

Robert Barletta is currently being investigated by the Sûreté du Québec for his alleged involvement in a large drug trafficking network led by the Hells Angels. His "brothers" bikers Martin Robert, Stéphane Plouffe and Michel Lamontagne are also targeted by this same investigation.

The four bikers were seen together on June 15 in Montreal at the funeral of the mafia Francesco Del Balso, murdered a week earlier in the west of the metropolis.


Daniel Renaud has updated his own La Presse article about this subject:

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...angels-vise-par-un-incendie-criminel.php
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/16/23 06:51 PM

https://lfpress.com/news/local-news...ill-alleged-london-biker-robert-barletta

Old article of about Barletta. Published Sep 23, 2020 • Last updated Jan 06, 2022 •


TARGETED: Who is trying to kill alleged London biker Robert Barletta?
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/16/23 07:58 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Originally Posted by Blackmobs
https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...-hells-detruite-par-un-incendie-criminel

Organized crime: the residence of an influential Hells destroyed by arson

The luxurious residence of the influential Hells Robert Barletta was destroyed by arson on the night of Tuesday to Wednesday, in Saint-Jérôme, in the Laurentians. The house would be a total loss and the damage would amount to several hundred thousand dollars.

Barletta was also a member in good standing of the London chapter of the Hells Angels when he was "recrued" by his Quebec colleagues in the Montreal chapter for his expertise in illegal sports betting, according to our sources.

Robert Barletta is currently being investigated by the Sûreté du Québec for his alleged involvement in a large drug trafficking network led by the Hells Angels. His "brothers" bikers Martin Robert, Stéphane Plouffe and Michel Lamontagne are also targeted by this same investigation.

The four bikers were seen together on June 15 in Montreal at the funeral of the mafia Francesco Del Balso, murdered a week earlier in the west of the metropolis.


Daniel Renaud has updated his own La Presse article about this subject:

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...angels-vise-par-un-incendie-criminel.php


Home of ex-Ontario Hells Angels boss hit by suspected arson
It was at least the third time a house connected to former Cabbagetown Hells Angel Rob Barletta has been destroyed by suspected arson.
https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/ho...21613b0-8e92-5a2a-85cb-e95f95b449e1.html
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/16/23 09:38 PM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2023/08/16/ma-fille-nous-a-ete-enlevee-par-erreur

“My daughter was taken from us by mistake”
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/16/23 09:55 PM

^^^^
Montreal police charge Toronto inmate in gangland killing
https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/mo...2dd10f3-62d0-5880-924f-610fd7c1ea7e.html
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/16/23 10:23 PM

L’omicidio della nuora dell’ex luogotenente dei Rizzuto, scatta un altro arresto
Secondo arresto nell'inchiesta sull'omicidio di Claudia Iacono

https://www.grandangoloagrigento.it...ente-dei-rizzuto-scatta-un-altro-arresto
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/17/23 12:39 AM

in the above article from daniel renaud of la presse he says and i will choose to believe him that the rizzuto/sollecito faction (my term) is in direct conflict with robert/plouffe faction over control of sports betting in mtl...i.e THE BOOK.

thats the reason for the arson.

i think as some time has gone by this is the most reasonable explanation.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/17/23 06:44 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Originally Posted by antimafia
Originally Posted by Blackmobs
https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...-hells-detruite-par-un-incendie-criminel

Organized crime: the residence of an influential Hells destroyed by arson

The luxurious residence of the influential Hells Robert Barletta was destroyed by arson on the night of Tuesday to Wednesday, in Saint-Jérôme, in the Laurentians. The house would be a total loss and the damage would amount to several hundred thousand dollars.

Barletta was also a member in good standing of the London chapter of the Hells Angels when he was "recrued" by his Quebec colleagues in the Montreal chapter for his expertise in illegal sports betting, according to our sources.

Robert Barletta is currently being investigated by the Sûreté du Québec for his alleged involvement in a large drug trafficking network led by the Hells Angels. His "brothers" bikers Martin Robert, Stéphane Plouffe and Michel Lamontagne are also targeted by this same investigation.

The four bikers were seen together on June 15 in Montreal at the funeral of the mafia Francesco Del Balso, murdered a week earlier in the west of the metropolis.


Daniel Renaud has updated his own La Presse article about this subject:

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...angels-vise-par-un-incendie-criminel.php


Home of ex-Ontario Hells Angels boss hit by suspected arson
It was at least the third time a house connected to former Cabbagetown Hells Angel Rob Barletta has been destroyed by suspected arson.
https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/ho...21613b0-8e92-5a2a-85cb-e95f95b449e1.html


Home linked to alleged Hells Angels destroyed in blaze: Media reports
Another home linked to the alleged founder of the London Hells Angels chapter has been destroyed by a suspicious fire, according to media reports.
https://lfpress.com/news/local-news...-alleged-hells-angels-destroyed-in-blaze
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/18/23 12:02 AM

Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/18/23 12:37 AM

Originally Posted by Hollander

Originally Posted by Hollander


Always wonder who were the most powerful, most influential and richest HAs of Canada. Those from Quebec or those from BC ….
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/18/23 02:01 PM

Policier du SPVM | Suspendu pour avoir été présent à un évènement où se trouvait Leonardo Rizzuto
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...ment-ou-se-trouvait-leonardo-rizzuto.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/18/23 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Originally Posted by VitoCahill
well thats some intriguing intell anti good find. a cocaine import network with a link to raynald through his daughter.


Vanessa Desjardins wedding reception was a who's who of Montreal gangsters

https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/wedding-reception-was-a-whos-who-of-montreal-gangsters


Vanessa Desjardins (Raynald's daughter) is mentioned in the article to which I've linked below. She is the wife of Adham Haouili, one of several individuals -- accused in a case -- who are at large. She appears to be facing another charge (charges?).

Quatre suspects toujours au large
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...on/quatre-suspects-toujours-au-large.php
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/18/23 03:42 PM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...ment-ou-se-trouvait-leonardo-rizzuto.php

Police Officer:
Suspended for being present at an event where Leonardo Rizzuto was present
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/19/23 03:39 AM

Originally Posted by VitoCahill
in the above article from daniel renaud of la presse he says and i will choose to believe him that the rizzuto/sollecito faction (my term) is in direct conflict with robert/plouffe faction over control of sports betting in mtl...i.e THE BOOK.

thats the reason for the arson.

i think as some time has gone by this is the most reasonable explanation.


If the Sicilian's are at war with the Angels then things are fixing to really get interesting up there
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/19/23 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Originally Posted by Ciment
Yes you are correct, after I send the messaged I recalled that that incident in Ontario.


No, I mean the unreported arson attacks on Barletta's rented house in Saint-Jérôme.


Sorry , I read your message too quickly and was thinking of the burned Ontario properties. Arson seems to follow him around.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/19/23 11:50 PM

Originally Posted by Blackmobs


Always wonder who were the most powerful, most influential and richest HAs of Canada. Those from Quebec or those from BC ….


With six chapters in Alberta (three in Edmonton, two in Calgary and one in Red Deer) they are also a force on the prairies.
Quebec Hells Angels apparently created their first-ever Ontario chapters 23 years ago.
According to CBC News, the Hells Angels have thirty-four chapters operating in Canada with 1,260 full-fledged (patched) members.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/21/23 06:06 PM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...n-bar-vise-par-un-incendie-criminel.php#

A bar targeted by arson
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 08/23/23 11:36 AM

I am surprised that there hasn't been any retaliation yet for the Barletta arson .
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/06/23 08:21 PM

A member of a Montreal mafia clan murdered in the Dominican Republic

Giuseppe Lopez, a member of the Lopez-Oliverio family clan, linked to the Montreal mafia, was murdered Monday evening in the Dominican Republic, La Presse learned from several police and criminal sources.

Giuseppe Lopez, 59, was shot dead according to our information. We do not know the exact circumstances of the crime, and the place where it was committed.

Through its network of international liaison officers, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police is able to confirm that a man known to the police was shot dead in the Dominican Republic," Corporal Anick Fournier told La Presse . of C Division (Quebec) of the RCMP, without however confirming the identity of the victim.
A discreet clan

The Lopez clan has always conducted its business discreetly before the spotlight of investigators from the defunct Regional Mixed Squad (ERM) of Montreal and the Proceeds of Crime Division of the Sûreté du Québec are trained on him during the investigation Magot- Mastiff, between 2013 and 2015.
During the investigation, the sleuths listened to and followed several suspects, including Giuseppe Lopez and his brothers, and used a civilian undercover agent thanks to which the police were able to ascertain that the clan had supplied a dozen kilograms of cocaine to a trafficker in the Hochelaga-Maisonneuve district when it was out of stock.
In a 400-page summary of the Magot-Mastiff investigation filed in court, ACI was allegedly involved in a nearly $700,000 transaction with the Lopez brothers in the summer of 2014.

On August 2, 2014, CREA went to a restaurant owned by the Lopez family to deposit $140,000.
One of the brothers had previously explained to him that he had to wear bigger pants because he didn't want him entering the establishment with a bag, that he had to order a meal and then go to the bathroom to drop off. the money in a cupboard, "near Ajax", and that after he left, someone would go and take the tickets to prevent them from crossing paths.
ACI followed these instructions and subsequently investigators observed one of the Lopez brothers retrieve the bag.
Nickname Espresso

Also during the Magot-Mastiff investigation, on March 25, 2015, the police intercepted a conversation between former criminal lawyer Loris Cavaliere, Giuseppe Lopez, his twin brother and two other individuals linked to organized crime.

During the conversation, one of the Lopez brothers asked Cavalière if the "machines" (encrypted communication devices) were secure, to which the former lawyer replied that before, BlackBerrys were the most secure, but that the police (RCMP) were able to decrypt them during the investigation which led to the arrest of Raynald Desjardins.
According to the evidence filed in court, Giuseppe Lopez would have used the nickname Espresso for his communications on PGP.
Giuseppe and his two brothers were charged with cocaine trafficking at the end of the Magot-Mastiff investigation, but they benefited from a stay of proceedings in October 2019.
Giuseppe Lopez had no criminal history, just like his brothers.
At the heart of a conflict

In recent years, the Lopez clan has presumably been embroiled in a conflict with another clan which is unclear whether it is over or not.

In November 2021, the clan's patriarch and Lopez brothers' uncle, Serafino Oliverio, was shot and wounded as he left his residence on Gouin Boulevard in northeast Montreal.
The clan owns several cafes, restaurants and buildings, especially in the northeast of the metropolis.
As of 2019, some of their cafes and other establishments, including a restaurant on Boulevard Gouin in the Rivière-des-Prairies district considered the headquarters of Serafino Oliverio, were the targets of arsonists.
Vehicles belonging to family members were also damaged in arson attacks.

In 2018, a building that houses a business owned by the Oliverio-Lopez family in northern Montreal caught fire when a fire – presumably accidental – broke out in cryptocurrency servers installed in the basement.

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-assassine-en-republique-dominicaine.php
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/06/23 08:39 PM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...ontrealais-tue-en-republique-dominicaine

Montreal cocaine trafficker killed in Dominican Republic
Linked to the mafia, Giuseppe Lopez was shot on Tuesday outside his residence in Juan Dolio

A mafia-linked Montrealer who was nabbed in a major strike against a drug-trafficking ring in 2015 was shot and killed Tuesday night in a seaside village in the Dominican Republic.

Giuseppe (Joe) Lopez was murdered at the end of the evening while driving a motorcycle near the secondary residence that his family owns in the small town of Juan Dolio, according to information obtained by Le Journal and our Investigation Office .


The Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) has also confirmed to the Journal that a man known to the police was shot dead in the Dominican Republic.

According to our sources, the 58-year-old man is a member of a notorious clan of Montreal mafia traffickers who have fallen out with the Rizzuto clan.

He was staying there with his uncle, Serafino Oliverio, whom the underworld of Montreal knows rather under the name of "Sergio Lopez".

Mistake on the person?

The latter, who has already had business ties with several mafia clans and other organized crime groups, had also been shot and wounded during an attempted murder in November 2021 in the Rivière-des- Meadows.

Oliverio's presence and the shooting he already survived in Montreal two years ago will likely lead local law enforcement to investigate the possibility that Giuseppe Lopez may have been the victim of a mistaken persona and that it was his uncle who was rather targeted by the shooter.

According to our sources, the residence owned by the Lopez-Oliverio clan in Juan Dolio, located about sixty kilometers east of the capital Santo Domingo, is usually protected by armed security guards.

However, it appears that was not the case when Giuseppe Lopez was shot on his motorbike while returning to his home near the fence at the entrance to the property.

The victim was known to authorities for his involvement in the cocaine business. He and his twin brother Franco, along with their younger brother Pasquale, 50, were accused of playing a role in supplying a major cocaine trafficking ring linked to the Hells Angels during the Magot-Mastiff project in 2015.

In the communications between suspects intercepted by the police during this investigation, they were referred to respectively as Espresso, Cappuccino and Caffe Latte.

The Sûreté du Québec investigation tended to establish that they would have sold a dozen kilograms for nearly $ 700,000 to the network of traffickers who controlled the distribution of this drug in the Mercier-Hochelaga-Maisonneuve borough, according to documents legal proceedings obtained by the Bureau of Investigation.

Bad quality

However, the business ties between the parties had been ruined since half of this cocaine turned out to be of poor quality. The network even reportedly “returned a full kilo to the Lopez family,” according to police reports resulting from Magot.

The three Lopez brothers, however, escaped unscathed in the fall of 2019 following a stay of the legal proceedings obtained by the Crown due to the unreasonable delays in trying them.

Bars linked to the Lopez-Oliverio clan were also targets of arson between 2018 and 2020.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/06/23 08:52 PM

Do ya’ll think it could be the Rizzuto’s behind this hit?
It could also be something else, involving drug organizations from the DR.
Posted By: housepainter

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/07/23 04:40 PM

Surprised this hasn't had more attention. They're fairly quiet, so maybe that's why it's not as big in the media.
As for the "who did it?" Who knows. Alot of activity around the drug trade fight. I'd venture more towards that than anything else, so a wide range of theories.
Again, very surprising as they are pretty quiet as a clan.
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/07/23 06:55 PM

very good points housepainter. best to look at most likely scenario first. all info on this clan points to them being involved in cocaine business. so likely the hit was over something to do with that part of organized crime. as yet there has been no good info as to whom the lopez-oliverio are allied with in mtl if anyone. the journal de mtl article states they had a falling out with rizzuto clan. i take this as the rizzuto/sollecito faction of the mtl mafia. these 2 clans are the only 2 of about 8-10 clans in mtl that are confirmed as being allied. the lopez-oliverio were once allied with them as well during the magot/mastiff years ( 2013-2015 ). as mentioned the lopez bros were acquitted or charges were dropped in 2019, then the attempt of serafino in nov 2021. so that statement points to the rizzuto/sollectio faction being behind the attempt. this however has not been confirmed and no one to my knowledge has been arrested or charged let alone named as being part of hit team.

sooooooo...theories could be.
1. an unknown cocaine trafficking group based in d.r.
2. rizzuto/sollecito faction.
3. an unknown mtl mafia clan that is currently fighting the lopez-oliverio for control of territory in mtl. ( possible the barberio-pizzi clan who also control territory in same r.d.p. mtl east area.)
Posted By: housepainter

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/08/23 12:00 AM

The Pizzi-Barberio clan would make sense since the share the same territory, more or less. But who knows. The entire mob war is so fluid right now. So many moving parts. It will only get messier before it clears up. Seems there is no natural leadership to calm the waters. Good for those on the outside looking in, but very sad for the families of those involved.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/08/23 12:18 AM

Wow this is a BIG hit in the 'milieu' !
Posted By: Gambler007

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/08/23 12:35 AM



https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...ce-latest-targets-of-gunfire-in-montreal

4 arsons and business shot at twice latest being 3 days ago in 2023 . Who is hunting Pizzi?

https://www.google.com/maps/@45.6300196,-73.497483,3a,75y,297.56h,79.69t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1stxqo804OBZ3F5PJnQQViTw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/08/23 03:43 AM

Originally Posted by Blackmobs
A member of a Montreal mafia clan murdered in the Dominican Republic

Giuseppe Lopez, a member of the Lopez-Oliverio family clan, linked to the Montreal mafia, was murdered Monday evening in the Dominican Republic, La Presse learned from several police and criminal sources.

Giuseppe Lopez, 59, was shot dead according to our information. We do not know the exact circumstances of the crime, and the place where it was committed.

Through its network of international liaison officers, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police is able to confirm that a man known to the police was shot dead in the Dominican Republic," Corporal Anick Fournier told La Presse . of C Division (Quebec) of the RCMP, without however confirming the identity of the victim.
A discreet clan

The Lopez clan has always conducted its business discreetly before the spotlight of investigators from the defunct Regional Mixed Squad (ERM) of Montreal and the Proceeds of Crime Division of the Sûreté du Québec are trained on him during the investigation Magot- Mastiff, between 2013 and 2015.
During the investigation, the sleuths listened to and followed several suspects, including Giuseppe Lopez and his brothers, and used a civilian undercover agent thanks to which the police were able to ascertain that the clan had supplied a dozen kilograms of cocaine to a trafficker in the Hochelaga-Maisonneuve district when it was out of stock.
In a 400-page summary of the Magot-Mastiff investigation filed in court, ACI was allegedly involved in a nearly $700,000 transaction with the Lopez brothers in the summer of 2014.

On August 2, 2014, CREA went to a restaurant owned by the Lopez family to deposit $140,000.
One of the brothers had previously explained to him that he had to wear bigger pants because he didn't want him entering the establishment with a bag, that he had to order a meal and then go to the bathroom to drop off. the money in a cupboard, "near Ajax", and that after he left, someone would go and take the tickets to prevent them from crossing paths.
ACI followed these instructions and subsequently investigators observed one of the Lopez brothers retrieve the bag.
Nickname Espresso

Also during the Magot-Mastiff investigation, on March 25, 2015, the police intercepted a conversation between former criminal lawyer Loris Cavaliere, Giuseppe Lopez, his twin brother and two other individuals linked to organized crime.

During the conversation, one of the Lopez brothers asked Cavalière if the "machines" (encrypted communication devices) were secure, to which the former lawyer replied that before, BlackBerrys were the most secure, but that the police (RCMP) were able to decrypt them during the investigation which led to the arrest of Raynald Desjardins.
According to the evidence filed in court, Giuseppe Lopez would have used the nickname Espresso for his communications on PGP.
Giuseppe and his two brothers were charged with cocaine trafficking at the end of the Magot-Mastiff investigation, but they benefited from a stay of proceedings in October 2019.
Giuseppe Lopez had no criminal history, just like his brothers.
At the heart of a conflict

In recent years, the Lopez clan has presumably been embroiled in a conflict with another clan which is unclear whether it is over or not.

In November 2021, the clan's patriarch and Lopez brothers' uncle, Serafino Oliverio, was shot and wounded as he left his residence on Gouin Boulevard in northeast Montreal.
The clan owns several cafes, restaurants and buildings, especially in the northeast of the metropolis.
As of 2019, some of their cafes and other establishments, including a restaurant on Boulevard Gouin in the Rivière-des-Prairies district considered the headquarters of Serafino Oliverio, were the targets of arsonists.
Vehicles belonging to family members were also damaged in arson attacks.

In 2018, a building that houses a business owned by the Oliverio-Lopez family in northern Montreal caught fire when a fire – presumably accidental – broke out in cryptocurrency servers installed in the basement.

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-assassine-en-republique-dominicaine.php

Man with ties to Montreal Mafia shot to death in Dominican Republic: report
https://montrealgazette.com/news/cr...ot-to-death-in-dominican-republic-report
Posted By: Mafia101

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/08/23 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by housepainter
The Pizzi-Barberio clan would make sense since the share the same territory, more or less. But who knows. The entire mob war is so fluid right now. So many moving parts. It will only get messier before it clears up. Seems there is no natural leadership to calm the waters. Good for those on the outside looking in, but very sad for the families of those involved.


I'm not saying it's not but Davide Barberio is close with Serafino Oliverio and involved with them in a lot of businesses in the Northeast.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/10/23 02:11 PM

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Posted By: mike68

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/11/23 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by Hollander
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Is this the most recent victim? Or Barberio?
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/11/23 07:22 PM

Those are two of the Lopez brothers, the murdered Giuseppe on the left.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/12/23 08:50 PM

Murder in broad daylight: Innocent man shot by mistake
The trial of the alleged shooter opened this Tuesday at the Montreal courthouse

UPDATE Tuesday, September 12, 2023 3:30 p.m.

An elderly man riddled with bullets in an Italian café in Montreal was the sad victim of mistaken identity, simply because he looked like a member of organized crime who was targeted, we learned this morning, at the opening of the trial of the alleged shooter.

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...mme-innocent-crible-de-balles-par-erreur
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/12/23 10:34 PM

Annie-Soleil Proteau discusses for the first time her links with the underworld in the new documentary series Family of Criminals , in which the connections of some of her relatives with the criminal world are also discussed.

Criminal Family looks at, among other things, the journey of trafficker William Robinson linked to the Scoppa clan, street gang member Jean Raymond Claude, gangster Gaétan Sévigny, pawnbroker Roger Valiquette and delinquent Guy Laflamme, who was killed by Gérald Gallant.

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...arle-de-ses-liens-avec-le-monde-criminel
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/14/23 10:21 AM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...vant-une-entreprise-de-luigi-coretti.php

Vehicles damaged by gunfire in front of Luigi Coretti's business
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 09/15/23 01:26 AM

Leonardo Rizzuto récupère 55 000 $ et des images de vacances de son père
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...t-des-images-de-vacances-de-son-pere.php
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/04/23 11:18 AM

ttps://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justice-et-faits-divers/2023-10-04/fraudes-de-type-grands-parents/un-reseau-lie-a-la-mafia-montrealaise-demantele.php

Grandparent fraud : A network linked to the Montreal mafia dismantled
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/04/23 11:23 AM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...18-millions-d-argent-sale-en-10-mois.php

Organized Crime : Guilty of laundering 18 million in dirty money in 10 months
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/04/23 11:34 AM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...sino/2023-10-03/un-empire-florissant.php

A flourishing empire

One of the most powerful criminal organizations in the world is suspected by the RCMP of laundering its dirty money through a casino in Kahnawake. In the police force's crosshairs: a non-native investor believed to be linked to the Sinaloa cartel.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/04/23 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment
ttps://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justice-et-faits-divers/2023-10-04/fraudes-de-type-grands-parents/un-reseau-lie-a-la-mafia-montrealaise-demantele.php

Grandparent fraud : A network linked to the Montreal mafia dismantled

OPÉRATION VISANT UN STRATAGÈME DE FRAUDE DE TYPE GRAND-PARENT
https://www.sq.gouv.qc.ca/communiques/operation-visant-un-stratageme-de-fraude-de-type-grand-parent/
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/04/23 08:17 PM

Les permis d’un restaurant fréquenté par le crime organisé suspendus durant 25 jours
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...e-organise-suspendus-durant-25-jours.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/04/23 11:30 PM

^^^^
Restaurant frequented by Hells Angels and people tied to Mafia shut down for 25 days
https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...ople-tied-to-mafia-shut-down-for-25-days
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/05/23 12:45 AM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Originally Posted by Ciment
ttps://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justice-et-faits-divers/2023-10-04/fraudes-de-type-grands-parents/un-reseau-lie-a-la-mafia-montrealaise-demantele.php

Grandparent fraud : A network linked to the Montreal mafia dismantled

OPÉRATION VISANT UN STRATAGÈME DE FRAUDE DE TYPE GRAND-PARENT
https://www.sq.gouv.qc.ca/communiques/operation-visant-un-stratageme-de-fraude-de-type-grand-parent/


This article from March 24,2021 regarding the grand-parent scam, does mention a possible mafia link individual.

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...nte-de-fraudeurs-dirigee-de-montreal.php
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/05/23 12:56 AM

https://www.journaldequebec.com/202...cts-dune-organisation-criminelle-arretes

“Grandparent” fraud: police raid in greater Montreal.

There is also a connection with Joshua Sarroino.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/05/23 04:11 PM

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...task-force-targets-grandparent-scam-ring


Man acquitted of Dix30 murder scooped up in grandparent-scam raids
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/05/23 05:49 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...sino/2023-10-03/un-empire-florissant.php

A flourishing empire

One of the most powerful criminal organizations in the world is suspected by the RCMP of laundering its dirty money through a casino in Kahnawake. In the police force's crosshairs: a non-native investor believed to be linked to the Sinaloa cartel.

Un magnat des casinos impatient d’obtenir sa citoyenneté
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...s-impatient-d-obtenir-sa-citoyennete.php
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/14/23 09:54 AM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...le-de-meurtre-pour-une-deuxieme-fois.php

Mistaken identity
Convicted of murder for a second time
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/16/23 05:44 PM

I recently read this in one of Daniel Renaud book that on September 4 , 2011 there was murder attempt on Antonio Arcuri. He was shot 4 times but survived. This was not covered by media and the cops didn't know about it until they later intercepted messages between Salvatore Montagna and Raynald Desjardins. Antonio was wounded and Montagna asked if he knew a doctor that can treat him in clandestine.

Thought I'd share this one with you.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/17/23 04:50 PM

Robert Martin's wife posted a photo on IG. Of her, her husband and the children of del baso around a turkey during thanksgiving

This is what felix seguin said in the video of this article.
He also said, the police don’t know what that mean.

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...e-chaud-qui-na-finalement-jamais-eu-lieu
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/18/23 02:12 PM

For her to release this photo is unusual. What would be the motive ? It raises more questions. It is as though they are bothered by this stigma that Del Balso might of been set up by the Hell's. Is it a tactical move to steer and detract the police authorities to look elsewhere? And if it were true that they had nothing to do with this, why weren't they able to revenge the death of one of their own ?
It is just critical thinking on my part.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/18/23 02:39 PM


Here is an excerpt from the book "La Chute du Dernier Parrain" book by Daniel Renaud

"The Italians are losing ground to the Hells Angels that they could never regain because currently, no one has the leadership to take it back. They have lost their credibility, added another police officer who requested anonymity.
He might add that the Hells Angels are part of an international organization that has chapters on five continents and in more than fifty countries. They are structured in an almost paramilitary manner, which gives them a superiority. In Quebec, in the summer of 2018, the Hells Angels could count on around 80 members at large, nearly 300 members of school clubs or sympathizers, not counting their employees who sell, for example, clothing bearing their image. In recent years, the police have noticed a greater presence of individuals of Italian descent among bikers. This may be a coincidence, but perhaps not."


Why are more Italians joining biker gangs ?
This makes me think of Giovanni Bertolo , he goes to jail, doesn't snitch and does his time. He goes back thinking that he could regain his territory or place of business ;but the Rizzuto organization gives that territory to someone else. He is left on his own and gets murdered for trying to make a living. Del Balso was also complaining that his family wasn't taken care when he did his time.
Furthermore, the likelihood of surviving is very low if you work for the mafia.
I can now see why more are joining the bikers.
Posted By: Liggio

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/18/23 03:14 PM

That's a bunch of bullshit. The Hells Angels recently killed Francesco Del Balso for the Rizzutos, doesn't sound like the Mafia is taking a backseat to the Hells Angels to me.
Posted By: Liggio

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/18/23 03:15 PM

As far as Bertolo not snitching, that's just common in Canada. Rarely does anyone flip over there. It's hardly even noteworthy. And as far as Del Balso goes, wasn't he in the news for gambling away $8 million dollars over a few year times span (which was really him laundering money!)? He apparently had money he shouldn't rely on others.
Posted By: Liggio

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/18/23 03:38 PM

Here's a good question, if biker gangs are so much bigger and badder than the Mafia, then how come people here aren't making threads calling for the arrest of biker leaders like that one idiot who made that post calling for the arrest of Albert Vena?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/18/23 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by Liggio
As far as Bertolo not snitching, that's just common in Canada. Rarely does anyone flip over there. It's hardly even noteworthy. And as far as Del Balso goes, wasn't he in the news for gambling away $8 million dollars over a few year times span (which was really him laundering money!)? He apparently had money he shouldn't rely on others.


How do you know for sure it was his money and not the organization money he was laundering.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/18/23 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by Liggio
Here's a good question, if biker gangs are so much bigger and badder than the Mafia, then how come people here aren't making threads calling for the arrest of biker leaders like that one idiot who made that post calling for the arrest of Albert Vena?


I didn't take it from that statement that they are bigger and" badder" than the mafia . In some areas they are and other areas they are not. In Quebec there are many experts saying that the Hells are presently in a better position than the mafia and in Ontario that is not the case. More often than none both the Mafia and HA work hand in hand. The reason why the Hells have gained more more in Quebec is because the Italian have been at war for decades.

Same can be said in other parts of the world. The Ndrangheta is in all continents and in just as many countries. It doesn't mean because they are that they are in conflict with every other criminal organization.
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/18/23 04:25 PM

nothing wrong with some critical thinking ciment. at times this site is where one can find some. keep it up. one has to think outside the box when discussing montreal. the HA are by far superior to the mafia in quebec in both total numbers and criminal territory and control. quebec is a huge province where the HA has near total dominance of a wide variety of rackets. what territory can the mafia claim total control of? mtl, r.d.p,laval? sharing most of this with street gangs. also the mafias reach in canada is not national. it has a presence in quebec and ontario mostly situated in mtl,laval,toronto and hamilton. the HA are coast to coast and have been for decades. the HA in quebec control drug market from top to bottom.

likely del balso was laundering the families money not his. and that laundering goes back to mid 2000's that info is not current. if it was why was he recently alleged to be extorting a church for payments. doesnt sound like a crime even a degenerate criminal would do, especially not one sitting on 8 mill.

with that being said what if i, the media and law enforcement are looking at this all wrong. what if the violence committed in the 2020's involving mtl mafia is not internal? what if it is a push on a very weakened mtl mafia that are not united under one leader and in no way holds the type of power it once did? a theory i have been pondering when this stagnant brain comes alive.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/18/23 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by Liggio
As far as Bertolo not snitching, that's just common in Canada. Rarely does anyone flip over there. It's hardly even noteworthy. And as far as Del Balso goes, wasn't he in the news for gambling away $8 million dollars over a few year times span (which was really him laundering money!)? He apparently had money he shouldn't rely on others.


It was Arcadi and Nicolo Sr. that were running the organization back then. Both didn't have the charisma and leadership Vito Rizzuto had. The Bertolo situation was badly handled along with the D'amico case.
Both were big mistakes and initiated a rebellion against the Rizzuto organization.
Posted By: Liggio

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/18/23 04:26 PM

Ciment, thanks for your replies. It could've been the organization’s money that he was laundering. Wasn't he allegedly killed for switching sides or betrayal? I think that bikers are more powerful in the streets, but I read in one article about the situation in Canada, the author said that they still need a well-polished and charismatic Mafioso the caliber of Vito Rizzuto to guarantee political connections and corruption. I think that that's where the Mafia and similar groups come in, they are more intertwined with business and politics.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/18/23 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by VitoCahill
nothing wrong with some critical thinking ciment. at times this site is where one can find some. keep it up. one has to think outside the box when discussing montreal. the HA are by far superior to the mafia in quebec in both total numbers and criminal territory and control. quebec is a huge province where the HA has near total dominance of a wide variety of rackets. what territory can the mafia claim total control of? mtl, r.d.p,laval? sharing most of this with street gangs. also the mafias reach in canada is not national. it has a presence in quebec and ontario mostly situated in mtl,laval,toronto and hamilton. the HA are coast to coast and have been for decades. the HA in quebec control drug market from top to bottom.

likely del balso was laundering the families money not his. and that laundering goes back to mid 2000's that info is not current. if it was why was he recently alleged to be extorting a church for payments. doesnt sound like a crime even a degenerate criminal would do, especially not one sitting on 8 mill.

with that being said what if i, the media and law enforcement are looking at this all wrong. what if the violence committed in the 2020's involving mtl mafia is not internal? what if it is a push on a very weakened mtl mafia that are not united under one leader and in no way holds the type of power it once did? a theory i have been pondering when this stagnant brain comes alive.



Right on VitoCahill !
Posted By: Liggio

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/18/23 04:45 PM

I honestly think that if the Mafia were that weak they would be talking already, if they were that weakened what more is there to lose? And what about the theory that the HA killed Del Balso as a favor to the Rizzutos? That would suggest that they are still doing the Mafia's bidding, meaning that the Mafia isn't subservient to them, if anything that would tell me it's the other way around. Also, what exact murders do you think was an attack on them rather than internal? And I'll say again, if biker gangs are so much more powerful, then all of these anti-crime preachers on this blog need to start petitioning for mass arrests of bikers instead of focusing so much on a very weak to nonexistent Mafia. Just saying.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/18/23 05:09 PM

Originally Posted by Liggio
I honestly think that if the Mafia were that weak they would be talking already, if they were that weakened what more is there to lose? And what about the theory that the HA killed Del Balso as a favor to the Rizzutos? That would suggest that they are still doing the Mafia's bidding, meaning that the Mafia isn't subservient to them, if anything that would tell me it's the other way around. Also, what exact murders do you think was an attack on them rather than internal? And I'll say again, if biker gangs are so much more powerful, then all of these anti-crime preachers on this blog need to start petitioning for mass arrests of bikers instead of focusing so much on a very weak to nonexistent Mafia. Just saying.


The Sicilian mafia or clan in Montreal is still making good money but over the years HA gained more territories and power whereby the Italians lost some because of their own doing. Overtime, if they stop warring, they may gain some of it back but will not be as powerful as they once were. Those days are gone.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/18/23 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by Liggio
Ciment, thanks for your replies. It could've been the organization’s money that he was laundering. Wasn't he allegedly killed for switching sides or betrayal? I think that bikers are more powerful in the streets, but I read in one article about the situation in Canada, the author said that they still need a well-polished and charismatic Mafioso the caliber of Vito Rizzuto to guarantee political connections and corruption. I think that that's where the Mafia and similar groups come in, they are more intertwined with business and politics.


Your welcomed !
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/18/23 06:52 PM

sorry was outside hosing down pool filter for the winter ...very satisfying.

the quebec police task force has had an investigation ongoing against martin robert and his close associates since 2021. the reason there has been no arrests or major indictments has to do with canadas terrible justice system, one that the HA and mafia lawyers know how to exploit. the authorities because of the supreme courts dubious jordan decision from years ago has forced the law to change the way they conduct there investigations. as of today the investigation is ongoing.

my previous post was about possible what ifs, i did not conclusively state thats what is going down, it was a theory. i have tracked the mtl mafia and more recently some HA chapters for awhile and first stated theories or reasons for violence have often in the passing of time turned out to be false. the same can be said for certain alliances in the past. that being said i do believe the mafia are outnumbered totally in quebec. its not even close. this mtl mafia is not the same powerful, unified, world recognized and wealthy as it was under the leadership of vito rizzuto. not even close. the RIZZUTO CRIME FAMILY under vito, and i know i will hear about it, eclipsed most east coast american mafia families. not the case now obviously. the mafia clans in mtl are mostly concentrated in one area of the province and always have been. i will call it montreal proper and laval. there power and influence does not extend into the many areas that the HA has control over.

the as of now accepted theory on the del balso hit was that it was indeed done by HA for the rizzuto/sollecito clan as revenge for attempt on leonardo. i did not dispute this. no shooter or shooters, drivers have been arrested or even a name/names mentioned.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/18/23 07:01 PM

Good summary Vito Cahill.

I agree with regards to the Del Balso hit.
I think it suited both sides. Rizzuto wanted his revenge and HA realized that he brought too much media & police attention.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/18/23 07:10 PM


FYI..............VitoCahill the book by Daniel Renaud also mentions that there are three or four mafia clans each having their own leaders. The Sicilian clan is lead by Leonardo & Stefano and unfortunately they do not mention who the other leaders are.
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/18/23 07:11 PM

what is this book you speak of? and why dont i have it already?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/18/23 07:19 PM

Vito Rizzuto : "La Chute du Dernier Parrain" by Daniel Renaud. It is in French I haven't seen any English versions yet.
Posted By: Liggio

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/18/23 10:45 PM

You guys may be right. Honestly I haven't been able to keep up with stuff like I used to when I had my laptop up and running and a lot of free time. I've been too busy grinding. One of these days I'll be able to do better research and ask better questions.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/18/23 11:25 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment


Same can be said in other parts of the world. The Ndrangheta is in all continents and in just as many countries. It doesn't mean because they are that they are in conflict with every other criminal organization.


Former Italian "Mafia Princess" on how the 'Ndrangheta actually works ; "A stylized bird with an open mouth"
Posted By: Liggio

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/20/23 11:25 AM

I wouldn't use Del Balso’s committing petty crimes as proof that he's broke. Mobsters never stop committing petty crimes. Undercover FBI agent Jack Garcia would talk about how Gambino captain Gregory DePalma would stuff cheap items in his underwear when they would go to the store. He would be like, "hey, whatta you doing?" DePalma would say, "hey, what can I say, that's what we do!"
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/20/23 12:03 PM

true liggio, not conclusive. but again i think that info about money laundering is from the early 2000's. and although never convicted of such i do recall evidence stating that del balso was in charge of a group of 'smurfs' to launder large sums through the casino de mtl. likely came out in proj colisee trials. del balso's behaviour and attempted crimes after his release do look more like a man desperate to get back what he lost during time in jail. he did attempt another extortion of a small pizza place in qc city area as well shortly after getting back on street. media claims at that time 2017/2018 were that del balso was told to leave mtl area by figures unknown.
Posted By: Liggio

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/20/23 12:06 PM

Wow, so he was basically shelved? I wonder what he did.
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/20/23 12:33 PM

yeah that has never come out. there were threats on his life in person during a home invasion in 2017. del balso was not at home when this happened but his family was terrorized by a couple low level goons. i have also read it had to do with threats coming at anyone allied to rizzutos. this is the same time the scoppa brothers were at war with rizzuto/sollecitos so he may have fled on his own. there were also unconfirmed reports that arcadi, del balso and giordano wanted to reclaim there positions on top the mafia from the rizzuto/sollecito after serving colisee sentences. that info we know now was false as giordanos hit is confirmed to be done by the scoppa bros and not the rizzuto/sollecito camp and as yet francesco arcadi has been non existent in the melieu lately. and if you cant tell there is no shelf in montreal, you mess up and anger those in charge you end up like del balso did this year splayed out on a sidewalk. although i dont really see this method being the best or most effective way to discipline members.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/20/23 01:43 PM

I also wondered why Del Balso got in their bad side. The only think I found was the following appended statement from Nicaso.

“Francesco Del Balso, used to run the gambling for the Rizzuto crime family. He had the skill and expertise on this field. And he tried to carve out a space in the control of extortion and gambling, illegal betting this racket and end up clashing with the organization leaders,” said Antonio Nicaso“.
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/20/23 02:02 PM

this scenario would also make alot of sense and is not unprecedented in the annals of crime. many cases of a member doing a stretch in the can and wanting or thinking they deserve a bigger piece of the action when released or the ability to return to old rackets. this was the case in montreal with giovanni bertolo in 2005 for an example.alot of the violence seems to continue to trace back to control of 'THE BOOK' and all the rackets surrounding it. so if del balso once controlled a good portion of it, as all evidence suggests, this wouldnt be surprising. further if del balso was the point man in this with backing from as of now unknown conspirators this also helps explain what ultimately led to his demise.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/20/23 02:21 PM

The control for the BOOK or BOOKS have caused a lot violence. It's almost as though it was the "Grail" lol.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/26/23 03:06 AM

Yep Andrea Scoppa claimed Arcadi/Del Balso/Giordano wanted to retake control of the book AND the family if I’m not mistaken
Posted By: Liggio

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/26/23 03:19 AM

The Rizzuto Clan was actually a global powerhouse. If I remember correctly, they said that if Vito Rizzuto took a plane and flew to the United Arab Emirates, or one of those faraway countries, everyone important would know who he was and kiss his ass. John Gotti on the other hand, nobody would even give a fuck. I don't see how something so big and powerful could be so concerned with a lousy sports book, to the point of so many bodies dropping over it.
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/26/23 01:24 PM

i guess the key word is 'was'. at there peak in late 90's up to V.R.'s 2004 arrest indeed a global powerhouse as you said. that was over 20 years ago alot has changed. and to the book it clearly is more than just a record of sports gamblers. from business or blood pg.166-167 about moreno gallos possession of it or parts of it and those he may have turned over to salvatore montagna.

"files referred to the records kept by major organized crime sports books, and gallo had run platinum for vito. a gamblers 'file' was made up of significant financial records, such as mortgages and banking information. it also included the names and addresses of a gamblers parents and other close relatives. this information would be carefully studied before the operators of a sports book determined how much, if any, credit he could be granted.the information also let the sports book operators know where to go calling if a gambler couldn't make good on his debts. that degree of financial diligence could be overlooked if the prospective gambler was related to someone of interest, such as a professional athlete. in those cases it was better for the gambler to run up a major debt, so that the books operators could suggest to the athlete that all would be forgiven in exchange for the fixing of a game or the provision of inside information on a team."-peter edwards and antonio nicaso.
Posted By: Mafia101

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/26/23 05:20 PM

Remember that Platinum is not the same as the book that is so coveted in Montreal.
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/26/23 09:17 PM

true. but thats splitting hairs really. we are to believe only platinum customers fell under this part of the book and not those in mtl??? all i was trying to show is that it is not just about sports betting info. the figliomeni proj sindicato 2019 bust in toronto was an extension of the 2013 platinum busts. the figliomeni werent keeping as detailed info on there bettors???
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/29/23 07:41 PM

Originally Posted by Liggio
I don't see how something so big and powerful could be so concerned with a lousy sports book, to the point of so many bodies dropping over it.


Yea why would anyone want possession of a book that produces $25 mill a year (or more) in a country that’s weak on gambling. Scoppa laid it out perfectly in his book

This ain’t nickel and dime shit
Posted By: Mafia101

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/31/23 04:28 PM

Anyone hear anything about the murder in St Leonard a few nights ago
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/31/23 05:34 PM

as of yet no names, groups, affiliations have been mentioned. there is a la presse article but aside from where it took place and brief witness description not much info either.

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-49-ans-atteint-par-plusieurs-balles.php
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/31/23 08:03 PM

Originally Posted by VitoCahill
as of yet no names, groups, affiliations have been mentioned. there is a la presse article but aside from where it took place and brief witness description not much info either.

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-49-ans-atteint-par-plusieurs-balles.php


The guy survive.
From an article, they said that he did time from drug trafficking in the past, but was not a big player.

He survived, because when the shooter came to finish him off, the gun jammed.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 10/31/23 08:06 PM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2023/10/26/montreal--un-homme-blesse-par-balle-dans-saint-leonard

Attempted murder in Saint-Léonard: he survives by a miracle because the firearm jammed

The 49-year-old man who was the victim of an attempted murder in the street Thursday evening in the Saint-Léonard district of Montreal would probably have died if the suspect's weapon had not jammed after the third shot.

This new episode of armed violence occurred shortly before 8 p.m., rue de Villieu, near rue Salvaye, in the heart of a residential area.

According to our information, the victim had just parked his vehicle at the edge of the sidewalk when he was stopped by an individual in the street who said he wanted to speak to him.


While the victim went to meet the individual, a second suspect arrived from behind, before opening fire three times.

The man, who apparently fell into a trap that had just been set for him, was hit by three projectiles in the back.

He miraculously survived the attack, as the gunman's weapon allegedly jammed after the third shot.

The two suspects fled the scene after the crime and have still not been found.

The victim was rushed to hospital, where doctors initially feared for his life.

However, his state of health stabilized during the evening and night, so he is expected to survive his injuries.

Assisted by a dog handler, investigators and forensic identification technicians from the Montreal police remained for several hours at the scene of the attempted murder, in an attempt to collect testimony and evidence that could advance the case. 'investigation.

The man targeted by this attempted murder is known to police circles, but is not a high-level criminal.

He was sentenced to 12 months in prison in the late 1990s after being convicted of criminal drug offenses.

He also pleaded guilty in 2020 to several drug trafficking charges in two separate cases. He received prison sentences of 6 months and 12 months.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/01/23 02:47 PM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...rtre-dune-innocente-victime-dans-un-cafe

Life in prison for the murder of an innocent victim in a cafe
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/01/23 07:00 PM

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...must-serve-at-least-13-years-behind-bars

Getaway driver in botched Mafia hit must serve at least 13 years behind bars
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/02/23 12:04 AM

https://m.youtube.com/watch?si=Y1u9-uNOTlRFGPYP&v=JN9u-lRkXXE&feature=youtu.be

Here's what Hells Angels leaders in Ontario allegedly spent millions on

Look like the HAs are doing very well in gambling.

Rob Barletta Is one of the HA in this
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/02/23 09:23 PM

Shots on the business of a Montreal mafioso Four individuals arrested and charged

Four men aged between 24 and 31 were arrested Wednesday in connection with shots fired at one of the businesses associated with Marco Pizzi on September 4, in east Montreal, La Presse learned .

The suspects, Alexandre Lemonde, 31, Gabriel Michaud-Rémillard, 25, Louis-Alexandre Guérault, 24, and Sébastien Allard, 27, all residents of Salaberry-de-Valleyfield, were accused of intentionally discharging a firearm, Thursday morning, at the Montreal courthouse.

Guérault was also charged with possession of substances. The prosecution objected to their release and their bail hearing was postponed until Friday.
Lemonde has a history of drug trafficking, providing false information and failing to comply with conditions.
Michaud-Rémillard has a history of threats and assault, and has cases still active before the courts for assault with a weapon, assault and breach of condition.
As for the other two, they have no history in Quebec according to our research.

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/.../quatre-individus-arretes-et-accuses.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/04/23 05:04 AM

Men charged with shooting at Montreal East building tied to alleged Mafioso
https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...al-east-building-tied-to-alleged-mafioso
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Un accusé se voit refuser pour une seconde fois sa liberté provisoire
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...e-seconde-fois-sa-liberte-provisoire.php

Man charged with attempted murder of Leonardo Rizzuto denied bail — again
https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...er-of-leonardo-rizzuto-denied-bail-again
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/07/23 01:55 AM

Montreal Hitmen Get Life for Mob Hit on Wrong Man

https://www.casino.org/news/montreal-hitmen-get-life-for-mob-hit-on-wrong-man/
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/11/23 11:28 PM

Residents of the Griffintown neighborhood in Montreal were awakened early Saturday morning when shots rang out.

According to initial information from the Montreal City Police Service (SPVM), individuals discharged one or more firearms at Pizzeria Moretti at the intersection of Peel and Wellington streets, around 4:20 a.m. Saturday. The suspects then fled on foot.

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2023/11/11/coups-de-feu-a-montreal-dans-la-nuit
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/17/23 05:28 PM

Gregory Woolley just got killed this morning.

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...e-gang-gregory-woolley-tue-par-balle.php

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2023/11/17/le-caid-gregory-woolley-pris-pour-cible
Posted By: Giacalone

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/17/23 05:54 PM

Holy shit lol
Posted By: Giacalone

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/17/23 05:56 PM

Powerful organized crime figure Gregory Woolley killed in St-Jean-sur-Richelieu

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https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...-woolley-killed-in-st-jean-sur-richelieu
Posted By: Giacalone

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/17/23 06:40 PM

Any theories on where this is coming from?
Posted By: Giacalone

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/17/23 06:40 PM

Organized crime figure Gregory Woolley killed in shooting south of Montreal

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/gregory-woolley-shooting-1.7031620

[Linked Image]
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/17/23 06:50 PM

coming from the same side that is anti-rizzuto/sollecito. most recent info has woolley being closer to R/S clan then mtl HA. this theory goes back to an idea i had couple weeks ago that this recent up tick in violence could be a RIZZUTO/SOLLECITO clan + allies vs. ROBERT/PLOUFFE MTL HA + allies.??? i will also say there would be no good reason for the rizzuto/sollecito clan to do it so i would rule them out as being behind it.
Posted By: Giacalone

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/17/23 06:56 PM

One wonders if this is viewed as an attack on the Rizzutos
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/17/23 06:56 PM

Caïd Gregory Woolley murdered before the eyes of his spouse and baby
Posted By: Giacalone

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/17/23 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by Blackmobs
Caïd Gregory Woolley murdered before the eyes of his spouse and baby


Well, at least they didn't kill them. Gangsters with human decency. We need more of those
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/17/23 08:17 PM

According to our information, the Sicilian clan had given Woolley part of the profits from illegal sports betting and the mafia loan, commonly called the "Book" in the community.
Posted By: mike68

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/17/23 08:46 PM

It's The Never Ending Story
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/18/23 12:14 AM

For now there are 3 theories for the hit on Woolley

1. The montreal chapter of the Hells Angels, the group of Martin Robert are making a move on the Rizzuto’s.

2. A purge, because of the things frederick silva told the police. Many of the hits from Silva were on behalf of Woolley. And Woolley would have been arrested soon or later. So he knew too much.

3. The gangs from the eastern part of montreal, particularly the bloods gangs stop paying the 10% taxes to the hells angels. And this could be a hit from the gangs.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/18/23 01:31 AM

Originally Posted by Blackmobs
For now there are 3 theories for the hit on Woolley

1. The montreal chapter of the Hells Angels, the group of Martin Robert are making a move on the Rizzuto’s.

2. A purge, because of the things frederick silva told the police. Many of the hits from Silva were on behalf of Woolley. And Woolley would have been arrested soon or later. So he knew too much.

3. The gangs from the eastern part of montreal, particularly the bloods gangs stop paying the 10% taxes to the hells angels. And this could be a hit from the gangs.


Raynald Desjardins?
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/18/23 04:05 AM

“The killing of Gregory Woolley is a major symbol. We have just eliminated the armed wing of the organization that had access to its services. This is a change for the future of organized crime in Montreal. Woolley is a very powerful individual who has access to many people and is highly respected by some organized crime organizations. He is, I believe, on the list of the ten most important individuals in organized crime in Montreal,” one observer who knows Montreal’s organized crime well told us, on condition of anonymity.

To contact Daniel Renaud, call 514 285-7000, ext. 4918, write to drenaud@lapresse.ca, or write to the postal address of The Press.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/18/23 04:53 AM

Friday evening, people posted messages on X, noting the vehicle that was torched in Montreal was parked on Sébastopol St. In one message, Guy Ouellette, a retired member of the SQ and a biker gang expert, noted the Rockers set up their first clubhouse in 1992 on Sébastropol St. Ouellette wrote that leaving the vehicle there was “a strong message instead of a coincidence.”


So the escape car was burned just in front of the old local of the Rockers MC…. The biker club in wich woolley was a member
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/18/23 06:16 AM

The “godfather” of gangs in troubled waters
Gregory Woolley would be in conflict with an ambitious boss, according to the police

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2021/03/06/le-parrain-des-gangs-en-eaux-troubles
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/18/23 08:28 AM

Originally Posted by Blackmobs
According to our information, the Sicilian clan had given Woolley part of the profits from illegal sports betting and the mafia loan, commonly called the "Book" in the community.




DelBalso, now Whooley dead. Both involved with the Book....
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/18/23 10:21 AM

This murder could be a game changer. With the murder of Gregory Woolley the Rizzuto's lost a close ally. Probably going to be more shooting between the reds and blue street gangs. Furthermore, will rival clans take advantage of this turmoil and strike at the Rizzuto's again, it remains to be seen.
Posted By: Liggio

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/18/23 02:38 PM

Sucks to see such a powerful empire crumble like that, their replacements won't be as fascinating as far as I'm concerned, as a spectator.
Posted By: jace

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/18/23 04:32 PM

Montreal is totally out of control. I think they have more gangs interacting with each other than anywhere else in North America. That leads to all these conflicts. Plus they are a major city that has fallen apart. The immigrant gangs also seem to have gotten powerful quicker than the did in other cities, and then maintained their hold.
Posted By: mike68

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/18/23 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by Hollander
The “godfather” of gangs in troubled waters
Gregory Woolley would be in conflict with an ambitious boss, according to the police

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2021/03/06/le-parrain-des-gangs-en-eaux-troubles



https://montrealgazette.com/news/cr...gates-gang-leader-arsene-mompoints-death

Mompoint was whacked in July. Perhaps revenge for his murder?
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/18/23 06:03 PM

I think the murder of Woolley is the continuity of the conflict between the Rizzuto’s and the Hells Angels Montreal’s chapter.

The hit against Leo, the murder of Del Baso and now Woolley

So its probably the Rizzuto’s, some mafia clans and the syndicates against the HAs montreal chapters, some gangs and maybe others
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/18/23 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by mike68
Originally Posted by Hollander
The “godfather” of gangs in troubled waters
Gregory Woolley would be in conflict with an ambitious boss, according to the police

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2021/03/06/le-parrain-des-gangs-en-eaux-troubles



https://montrealgazette.com/news/cr...gates-gang-leader-arsene-mompoints-death

Mompoint was whacked in July. Perhaps revenge for his murder?


Tit for tat could be possible the first was affiliated with the Crips Wooley with the Bloods. But the gangs would probably not act alone they make the most money with other organizations.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/18/23 08:14 PM

STREET GANGS: EVEN THE “OG” ARE WORRIED ABOUT THE SITUATION IN MONTREAL
Published on
April 20, 2023 at 2:53 p.m.
Reporting :

Marie-Michelle Lauzon

David Romain has always been called Faya. That's what they call it on the streets of Montreal. At 44 years old, he has seen and experienced almost everything when it comes to crime. He is considered an OG , in street lingo: old or original gangster. And yet, what he observes among the new generation of street gang members worries him.

“They shoot everywhere, for anything,” says Faya. Personally, I don't respect them. I speak with a lot of OGs and none of us have any respect for the game today.”

Son of an absent father and victim of bullying at school, he began burglarizing chalets near Rivière-des-Prairies at 12 years old. He quickly became involved with blue street gangs – the Crips – which he frequented throughout his criminal career. The first time he held a gun in his hands, he was barely 13 years old.

David Romain alias Faya, in his youth.

As a teenager, bank robberies, mischief, drug possession, youth center, breach of conditions… At 18, he pleaded guilty to a charge of carrying a concealed firearm.

For 27 years, his life was punctuated by incarcerations and his criminal offenses: possession of firearms, criminal harassment, serious assault, pimping, arson... He was even accused in 2010 in a story where an SPVM double agent was violently beaten.

Despite a past marked by violent acts, he describes himself as a “good bandit”.

“In the old days, it was our beef , our business,” says Faya. We weren’t shooting innocent people.”

The data seems to support his claims. In the 2000s, a time when street gang violence reached its peak in Montreal, it nevertheless caused few collateral victims. In 2007, for example, all the victims of the 14 homicides and 54 attempted murders in Montreal were involved in criminal activities linked to street gangs, according to the Montreal Police Service (SPVM). And barely 7% of these crimes were committed in public places.

“A good bandit does his business and doesn’t kill innocent people.”
- David Romain, aka Faya

The former street gang member denounces the current trend in scoring, the act of shooting targeted victims at random to “score points”.

“Today, it’s their fashion: go to such and such a neighborhood, shoot someone,” describes Faya. You're not tough at all if you do that."

A point of view shared by Commander Francis Renaud, head of the Northeast organized crime section within the SPVM. He believes that the targeting of innocent victims is the “most worrying” phenomenon currently for the police force.

The proliferation of firearms among young people and the “brand new battlefield” that is social networks are creating an explosive climate in the streets of Montreal. From January 1 to March 26, the SPVM recorded 25 firearm discharge events and seized 135 firearms.

“There is a trivialization of firearms and violence,” Mr. Renaud assessed in an interview with the Noovo Le Fil 17 newsletter on Wednesday. Our young people are insensitive to this violence.”

Faya is also concerned about seeing more and more teenagers – younger and younger – owning a firearm.

“All the young people are armed, and are wild out , are ready there. It's crazy.""
- Faya
If Faya agreed to confide in Noovo Info, it is because he feels partly responsible for what is currently happening in Montreal. “Every day I say to myself: 'Had I known, I would never have done that.'”

Today, the ex-gangster has a lot to say to the young people of his city. He says his years in detention taught him a lot. He admits to having caused a lot of harm to a lot of people. His past will always follow him, but he aspires to a better future, far from the streets, he swears.

“As I tell young people, there are other things to do than shoot each other. There are a lot of them who are intelligent too, a lot!”

He is saddened to see young men “wasting their talent” by falling into crime.

“I’ve been happy in my life for two, three years. Stay away from problems, you breathe better, you live better.”

“That’s life, not being 15 and walking around with a glock. It's crazy, you're 14, 15 years old and you have to watch your back. Think about yourself, your school, your career, your future,” he advises teenagers tempted by the life he led.
Posted By: Mafia101

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/18/23 10:23 PM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Originally Posted by mike68
Originally Posted by Hollander
The “godfather” of gangs in troubled waters
Gregory Woolley would be in conflict with an ambitious boss, according to the police

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2021/03/06/le-parrain-des-gangs-en-eaux-troubles



https://montrealgazette.com/news/cr...gates-gang-leader-arsene-mompoints-death

Mompoint was whacked in July. Perhaps revenge for his murder?


Tit for tat could be possible the first was affiliated with the Crips Wooley with the Bloods. But the gangs would probably not act alone they make the most money with other organizations.


Mike Arsene Mompoint was killed in July 2021 in case you didn't notice.

Gregory Woolley was the one associated with the crips and Arsene Mompoint with the bloods.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/19/23 01:49 AM

https://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2023/11...t-activement-recherche-par-les-autorites

Murder of Gregory Woolley: at least one suspect actively sought by the authorities
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/19/23 02:20 AM

Originally Posted by Mafia101
Originally Posted by Hollander
Originally Posted by mike68
Originally Posted by Hollander
The “godfather” of gangs in troubled waters
Gregory Woolley would be in conflict with an ambitious boss, according to the police

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2021/03/06/le-parrain-des-gangs-en-eaux-troubles



https://montrealgazette.com/news/cr...gates-gang-leader-arsene-mompoints-death

Mompoint was whacked in July. Perhaps revenge for his murder?


Tit for tat could be possible the first was affiliated with the Crips Wooley with the Bloods. But the gangs would probably not act alone they make the most money with other organizations.


Mike Arsene Mompoint was killed in July 2021 in case you didn't notice.

Gregory Woolley was the one associated with the crips and Arsene Mompoint with the bloods.



You are right Mompoint was 'Unit 44' a blood set they did a lot of hits for the Italians.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/19/23 10:14 PM

Wow, this is another huge escalation North of the border
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/20/23 12:36 AM

Originally Posted by dixiemafia
Wow, this is another huge escalation North of the border


No suprise though Picasso has been warned by police many times.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/20/23 01:12 AM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Originally Posted by dixiemafia
Wow, this is another huge escalation North of the border


No suprise though Picasso has been warned by police many times.



They all get warned by the police since the 80s. Rizzuto got warned, del baso got warned, chenier got warned. Its part of the life
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/20/23 01:22 AM

Originally Posted by Blackmobs
Originally Posted by Hollander
Originally Posted by dixiemafia
Wow, this is another huge escalation North of the border


No suprise though Picasso has been warned by police many times.



They all get warned by the police since the 80s. Rizzuto got warned, del baso got warned, chenier got warned. Its part of the live


Yes the thing is they warn them but never say from who, so often they are still guessing.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/20/23 02:33 AM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Originally Posted by Blackmobs
Originally Posted by Hollander
Originally Posted by dixiemafia
Wow, this is another huge escalation North of the border


No suprise though Picasso has been warned by police many times.



They all get warned by the police since the 80s. Rizzuto got warned, del baso got warned, chenier got warned. Its part of the live


Yes the thing is they warn them but never say from who, so often they are still guessing.


True to that. But i guess they can’t tell them who made the treats, because them guys will go after them, and a murder could be in the hands of the cops
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/21/23 12:52 AM

Yea with what all he had his hands in, I think he knew he could be under the gun at some point. I imagine a lot were jealous of his connections as well
Posted By: TheGhost

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/22/23 05:50 AM

se la scimmia era la problema tra Sollecito e Scoppa, forse addesso la famiglia tradizionale potrebbe esiste nel canada? simile a italia. multi membri possible, non so chi? violi, luppino, ruzzuto, commisso, todaro, new york, etc? la polizia ama la loro scimmie soppratutto nel Canada, è la verita?
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/22/23 06:45 AM

Originally Posted by TheGhost
se la scimmia era la problema tra Sollecito e Scoppa, forse addesso la famiglia tradizionale potrebbe esiste nel canada? simile a italia. multi membri possible, non so chi? violi, luppino, ruzzuto, commisso, todaro, new york, etc? la polizia ama la loro scimmie soppratutto nel Canada, è la verita?



Seriously though...why are you on here speaking whatever that is?
Posted By: TheGhost

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/24/23 10:16 AM

Originally Posted by CabriniGreen
Originally Posted by TheGhost
se la scimmia era la problema tra Sollecito e Scoppa, forse addesso la famiglia tradizionale potrebbe esiste nel canada? simile a italia. multi membri possible, non so chi? violi, luppino, ruzzuto, commisso, todaro, new york, etc? la polizia ama la loro scimmie soppratutto nel Canada, è la verita?



Seriously though...why are you on here speaking whatever that is?


una domanda honesta mi dispiace.  ma è vero? ho ricordato qualcuno ha detto qualcosa riguarda le scimmie hanno cresciuto dopo Rizzuto è andato in prigone erano una malatia, forse arcadi?. molto strano qui, perche la stessa malatia esiste in italia.  sapete meloni e salvini? anche Sylvio, Minetti e Balotelli? cose come queste sono strane, vogliamo imparere I fatti a canada
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/24/23 08:49 PM

You enjoy hiding behind Google translate to sling racial insults?
Posted By: Benballer

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/25/23 03:18 AM

Firstly mompoint was with nloods.. wooley was with the crips

If your not from montreal you shouldn’t be speaking on OC your a spectator
I was on the streets and actively working for some individuals on the chart
Posted By: Benballer

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/25/23 03:21 AM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Originally Posted by mike68
Originally Posted by Hollander
The “godfather” of gangs in troubled waters
Gregory Woolley would be in conflict with an ambitious boss, according to the police

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2021/03/06/le-parrain-des-gangs-en-eaux-troubles



https://montrealgazette.com/news/cr...gates-gang-leader-arsene-mompoints-death

Mompoint was whacked in July. Perhaps revenge for his murder?


Tit for tat could be possible the first was affiliated with the Crips Wooley with the Bloods. But the gangs would probably not act alone they make the most money with other organizations.


Firstly mompoint was with nloods.. wooley was with the crips

If your not from montreal you shouldn’t be speaking on OC your a spectator
I was on the streets and actively working for some individuals on the chart
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/25/23 03:41 AM

LOL Bloods Crips whatever !! grin
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/26/23 04:45 PM

well benballer and not to be rude but that is not the way this site works. noone has to show street cred to share posts on here. aside from a relatively small number of criminals in quebec we are all spectators. i can respect the claim to being on the street but that by no means disallows anyone else from theorizing as to what is going on in mtl or elsewhere in the world. you now open youself to the easiest of questions...what have we all got so wrong then? what is it about mtl and organized crime, bikers, street gangs and the mafia do we all have no clue about? or are so far off that we have lost all credibility to speak on such matters?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/29/23 10:32 AM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...ris-sportifs/le-livre-de-la-discorde.php

THE SPORTS BETTING WAR
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/29/23 10:44 AM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...fs/2023-11-29/des-acteurs-importants.php

Important players
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/29/23 10:46 AM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...ris-sportifs/le-livre-de-la-discorde.php

The Book of Discord
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/29/23 12:21 PM

Good articles from LaPresse

From my part, I learn new names Cannistraro and Desiderio Pompa
Are they members of the Rizzuto clan ?

Also we can see that the Hells Angels from the montreal chapter also make alot of money from that book. So it make sense that they want to be the owners of the book.

Also, it amaze me that the lapresse or the JdM don’t know much about Gregory Woolley. The day of his murder, we learn that he had According to information, the Sicilian clan had given Woolley part of the profits from illegal sports betting and the mafia loan, commonly called the "Book" in the community.
But in the third article, woolley is no part in this, except for a call.
Did he invest in the book ?
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/29/23 12:25 PM

Crazy how the Rizzuto always got a new war in there hands.

First it was the Rizzuto’s against Desjardins-Montagna group.
Then it was the Rizzuto-Sollecito clan against the Scoppa brothers.
Now seem it will be the Rizzuto-Sollecito against the Hells Angels Montreal chapter.

Could we say there was also a war the Rizzuto and allies from Ontario against some Ontario clans ?
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/29/23 12:44 PM

carmelo cannistraro was part of arcadi crew involved in sports gambling going back to proj. colisee. he along with 10 others were busted for running a large gambling ring under the direction of the arcadi, del balso and giordano admin. cannistraro was sentenced to a short sentence in 2011 and not much had been heard from him aside from an arson at a beauty salon owned by his wife in 2017. his speciality and most current involvement all lead to gambling i have no evidence of his involvement in anything else. desiderio pompa worked for a time with or under ennio bruni until his 2010 murder. bruni was alleged to also work under arcadi/del balso and was one of the last active remaining members of the rizzuto crime family on the street. pompa after this became more closely allied with the rizzuto clan and was alleged to be act as a bodyguard and driver for vito rizzuto, a role he is also alleged tohave filled for his father nicolo. in past reports pompa has been linked to sports gambling specifically in laval. he is somewhat recently out on a gun possession charge.
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/29/23 12:55 PM

all 3 of those articles are very revealing. some of the names i had thought were no longer involved, krolik being one of them. also shows that mirarchi had indeed made a truce with rizzuto/sollecito clan. more to come.....
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/29/23 01:15 PM

Thanks VitoCahill.

I didn’t remember thise names, but thanks for the infos.
Mirachi seem to be a very powerful guy, and who knows how to move in this buisness
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/29/23 04:47 PM

I have been saying this on here for years, Mirarchi is the most powerful mafioso in Montreal.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/29/23 05:00 PM

Originally Posted by Scalish
I have been saying this on here for years, Mirarchi is the most powerful mafioso in Montreal.


I agree , he is well connected.
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/29/23 05:14 PM

https://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2023/11...treal.com&utm_campaign=reco#cxrecs_s

something to look out for on friday.
Posted By: mike68

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/29/23 05:24 PM

So it would appear, based on these articles that Pizzi and Barberio are still aligned with the mafia. This would lead me to believe that the HA would be responsible for the Barberio shooting and the constant harassment of Pizzi businesses. But who knows?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/29/23 06:14 PM

Originally Posted by Blackmobs
Crazy how the Rizzuto always got a new war in there hands.

First it was the Rizzuto’s against Desjardins-Montagna group.
Then it was the Rizzuto-Sollecito clan against the Scoppa brothers.
Now seem it will be the Rizzuto-Sollecito against the Hells Angels Montreal chapter.

Could we say there was also a war the Rizzuto and allies from Ontario against some Ontario clans ?


Yes , the Rizzuto's have had several disputes and most of them were self inflicted like the handling of Bertolo, Del Balso , D'Amico/Piccirilli and other.
I also agree some Ontario clans took advantage of Vito's imprisonment, to strike.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/29/23 06:20 PM

J.E: the Montreal mafia in disarray

The decline of the Rizzuto clan in Montreal is causing a wave of changes in the city's criminal underworld that could benefit the most powerful mafia in the world.

The JE show will present this Friday a one-hour special on the 'Ndrangheta, in addition to providing the most recent portrait of the Montreal mafia.

The police officers and specialists in the fight against organized crime met by the host Félix Séguin in Italy are also monitoring very closely what is happening here.

WATCH on the JE show Friday 9 p.m. on TVA, rebroadcast Saturday and Sunday 1 p.m. and 7 p.m. on LCN.

READ Friday in the Journal de Montréal and the Journal de Québec.

https://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2023/11/29/je-la-mafia-de-montreal-en-deroute
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/29/23 08:04 PM

Originally Posted by Blackmobs
Good articles from LaPresse

From my part, I learn new names Cannistraro and Desiderio Pompa
Are they members of the Rizzuto clan ?

Also we can see that the Hells Angels from the montreal chapter also make alot of money from that book. So it make sense that they want to be the owners of the book.

Also, it amaze me that the lapresse or the JdM don’t know much about Gregory Woolley. The day of his murder, we learn that he had According to information, the Sicilian clan had given Woolley part of the profits from illegal sports betting and the mafia loan, commonly called the "Book" in the community.
But in the third article, woolley is no part in this, except for a call.
Did he invest in the book ?


Whooley functioned as the Rizzuto's street muscle. A kind of loyal mercenary, if you will. I believe his piece of the Book to be compensation for protecting Rizzuto interest in the street. He became closer to them than the bikers. I read, (maybe back in 2015-ish?) That his closeness with the Italians was causing HIM friction within his own PowerBase. Don't be surprised if one of his jealous underlings lined him up for the bikers.


The Bikers are the strongest in the street. They fought that bloody war for control. If the streets were to be considered a marketplace, then they have " dominant market share" , so to speak. It would make sense to them thst they control the betting, as they have the muscle to enforce it.

Without Whooley, it's questionable at this point if the Sicilians can hold onto their interest. Time will tell.


I gotta say this though.... These revelations about the Book, I heard about, and read first in that Scoppa book. It's by far the most credible thing he talked about.
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/30/23 02:46 PM

crazy part to me is that the rizzuto/sollecito faction continues to fight off these attacks, albeit with serious losses across the board. none the less various factions and groups continue to push on the r/s faction and continue to get pushed back. it is not easy to dislodge any criminal group that is embedded like they are. the roots of the rizzutos go back near 70 years in montreal. i also get a kick out of the stories yet again claiming that now...now the rizzutos are in decline and weakened. as opposed to 2006, 2009-2011, 2012-2013, 2015-2019, 2023???
Posted By: vito_andolini

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 11/30/23 09:27 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment
Originally Posted by Scalish
I have been saying this on here for years, Mirarchi is the most powerful mafioso in Montreal.


I agree , he is well connected.


Agreed. Since his release he's been quiet, almost waiting for the stars to align.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/01/23 12:14 PM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...avec-lassassinat-du-caid-gregory-woolley

The Rizzuto mafia clan is seriously threatened with the assassination of kingpin Gregory Woolley
This murder which occurred on November 17 is described as “a tipping point” by several police sources

The 45-year reign of the Rizzuto clan at the head of organized crime in Montreal is seriously threatened with the murder of kingpin Gregory Woolley, which occurred two weeks ago.

The shooting of Woolley, which occurred on November 17 in front of his wife and three-day-old child in Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu, is described as “a tipping point” by several police sources interviewed by our Bureau of Investigation .

This is because the formidable Woolley, 51, was one of the most important allies left to Leonardo Rizzuto, co-leader of a clan increasingly shaken in recent months.

“Now that Gregory is dead, Leonardo has just lost his main protector,” says a police source on condition of anonymity.

Since the death of godfather Vito Rizzuto from natural causes in 2013, his son Leonardo and Stefano Sollecito, whose father Rocco was already interim head of the mafia, form the tandem at the head of the Sicilian clan's operations in Montreal.

As recently as 2020, the Quebec Criminal Intelligence Service ruled, in a detailed report of which we obtained a copy, that the Rizzutos formed “the most influential and powerful criminal group” in Quebec.

The organization saw the clan as "a direct and continuing threat to Quebec society."

But things changed very quickly.

Rizzuto targeted

Last March, Leonardo Rizzuto was the victim of an attempted murder on Highway 440 in Laval. Eight bullets were fired at his luxury Mercedes-Benz SUV, but the 53-year-old mobster survived.

Then, Del Balso himself was assassinated on June 5, after leaving a meeting in a Dorval gymnasium.

Police officers who expected the escalation of violence to continue were surprised by a relatively calm summer season in the metropolis... until the attack on Woolley two weeks ago.

That day, the boss took a seat in his partner's Lamborghini SUV. Normally, the 51-year-old would have been driving an armored vehicle, which was under repair.

In recent weeks, police had warned the man nicknamed “the godfather of street gangs” that his life was in danger.

He was feuding with Hells Angels Normand "Casper" Ouimet and Patrick Lock in recent months. Woolley had also made a powerful enemy in Raynald Desjardins, the veteran mafia kingpin. In 2015, he was also accused of plotting a failed assassination attempt on Desjardins.

Although the charges were dropped in 2018, investigator Steve Girard, responsible for questioning Woolley after his arrest in 2015, warned him that some of his enemies might want revenge.

“A characteristic specific to the Italian mafia is that revenge has no expiration date,” adds Commander Francis Renaud.

“The city is open”

The game of new alliances has now begun in the metropolis.

“There are a lot of new alliances that can be a little fragile. It might seem like a form of instability, but it's more tensions generated by these new alliances,” says Marie-Ève ??Lavallée, inspector responsible for the organized crime program in Quebec for the RCMP, in an interview.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/01/23 12:16 PM

ECHOES AS FAR AS ITALY

Italian police officers do not hesitate to speak of the “fall” of the Rizzuto clan after the latest setbacks of the Sicilian organization in Montreal.

On behalf of the JE program , our Bureau of Investigation went to Calabria, cradle of the most powerful mafia in the world, the 'Ndrangheta.

After half a dozen interviews with the greatest specialists in the fight against Italian organized crime, one observation emerges: the Rizzuto clan is in decline.

“The murders which have affected members of the Rizzuto family in recent years have led to the fall of the clan, which has already formed, with the Caruana and the Cuntrera, the main Italian criminal organization in Canada,” believes Alfonso Ladevaia, the director of the state police of Reggio, Calabria.

These murders are part of a change in the balance between Italian criminal groups operating in Canada,” adds Director Ladevaia.

Like a multinational

Experts interviewed say that the 'Ndrangheta has an annual turnover of more than $70 billion. This is more than that of companies like Air Canada, Desjardins, Couche-Tard, Bombardier and Metro combined.

In Canada, the Calabrian mafia is mainly established in the Toronto and Thunder Bay region of Ontario, where it has four branches, themselves divided into 17 sections. But it is also becoming more and more active in Montreal.

Without revealing the exact content of the discussions captured by the electronic eavesdropping of certain 'Ndrangheta mafiosi, the commander of the carabinieri of Reggio Calabria affirms that he often hears about the situation in Montreal.

“We have made Canada understand how dangerous these people are,” says Colonel Massimiliano Galasso.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/01/23 12:16 PM

Calabrian as boss?

Moreover, the Calabrian Vittorio Mirarchi, who has already been tipped as a future godfather, is at the center of discussions on the future of the Montreal mafia.

Mirarchi, a protégé of kingpin Raynald Desjardins, spent six years behind bars after being found guilty of plotting the murder of aspiring godfather Salvatore Montagna in Charlemagne in 2011.

Several sources claim that he still has what it takes to become the most influential criminal in Quebec, but specialized police officers see him very little in Montreal.

He would spend most of his time in Toronto. Mirarchi is not a member of the 'Ndrangheta, but there would be very strong support, sources report.

Organized crime in change
The violent events since March 2023 have reshuffled the cards within organized crime. Our Bureau of Investigation consulted several sources and police documents to draw up a portrait of those who have been weakened, those who are stronger and those whose positioning the police are awaiting in the coming weeks.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/01/23 12:19 PM

THE WEAKENED

Leonardo Rizzuto

Co-leader of the Sicilian clan of the Montreal mafia
Victim of attempted murder in March 2023

Stefano Sollecito

Co-leader of the Sicilian clan
Very sick

Nicola Spagnolo

Faithful lieutenant of the Rizzuto
Imprisoned for an assault that occurred in 2020

Vito Salvaggio

Loyal to the Rizzutos for 20 years
Involved in the economic interests of this mafia family
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/01/23 12:20 PM

ON THE UPLINE

Peter of Adam

Well established in the LaSalle district
Has good connections with Irish organized crime and the Hells Angels

Vittorio Mirarchi

Very close to Raynald Desjardins
Discreet, he has very strong support from Toronto

Raynald Desjardins

Recently released from prison
He established good ties with the Hells Angels
Enemy of the Rizzuto clan

Jean-Philippe Célestin

Close to Gregory Woolley
Able to unite street gangs
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/01/23 12:21 PM

TO MONITOR

Martin Robert

The most influential Hells Angels in Quebec
Is located outside the country

Stéphane Plouffe

Close to Martin Robert
Would control the sale of narcotics north of Montreal
Both Tamouro

Hells Angels henchman
Is located outside the country

Carmelo Cannistraro

Responsible for sports betting management
Stefano Sollecito's right-hand man
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/02/23 12:39 AM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...un-dernier-adieu-au-caid-gregory-woolley

The funeral ceremony was held late in the afternoon at the Loreto complex, in the Saint-Léonard district of Montreal.

Gregory Woolley was a man who led a lot within the underworld: he maintained close ties with the mafia as well as with the Hells Angels and street gangs.

The co-leader of the Montreal mafia, Leonardo Rizzuto, of whom Woolley was a faithful ally, showed up on the scene, fleeing the cameras of the media present on site. Her sister, Libertina, also made a notable presence.

Other big names in organized crime came to support those close to Woolley: former Hells Mario Brouillette and South Chapter prospect Richard Mayrand; mafioso Giuseppe “Gator” Focarazzo and gang leader Jean-Philippe Célestin, accompanied by his close guard.

The latter is expected by observers of the criminal scene to be the one who could fill the “vacuum” left by the death of Gregory Woolley in the scene of organized crime.

Throughout Friday afternoon, hundreds of people entered and exited the Loreto funeral home, while luxury vehicles – many of them armored – lined the complex's parking lot.

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-se-sont-deplaces-au-salon-funeraire.php

Mafiosi, bikers, gang members; individuals of all criminal stripes came early Friday afternoon to the Loreto Funeral Complex in Montreal, to show their respect to the loved ones of Gregory Woolley, who was shot and killed on November 17.

La Presse noted that some visitors were questioned by members of the Eclipse Squad.
Among the notable guests, let us highlight the presence of Leonardo Rizzuto, youngest son of the former mafia godfather Vito Rizzuto, the gang member Jean-Philippe Célestin, the ex-biker Mario Brouillette, the mafioso Pietro D'Adamo, biker and mafia associate Giuseppe Focarazzo and members of the Hells Angels, including some former Nomads, the now-defunct group led by Maurice Boucher during the biker wars.
Police also noticed some armored vehicles displaying Ontario license plates in the parking lot.
The gang leader will not have a funeral in a church.
Gregory Woolley's remains are also expected to be laid to rest on Friday evening and to be buried Saturday morning in a metropolitan cemetery.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/02/23 03:14 PM

https://www.tvanouvelles.ca/emissions/je

French Video on Montreal organized crime and Ndrangheta
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/02/23 03:35 PM


TVA JE French Video and the article from Journal de Montreal mentions:

"In Canada, the Calabrian mafia is mainly established in the Toronto and Thunder Bay region of Ontario, where it has four branches, themselves divided into 17 sections. But it is also becoming more and more active in Montreal. "

On the video they show 17 circles for Toronto and 1 circle for Thunder Bay. I may be wrong but are they are saying there are 17 cells/Families. If true they have more than doubled over the years.
Anyone else interpret to be different ? I am perplexed as to the meaning of that statement.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/03/23 11:19 AM

Anyone familiar with Adham Haouili? Haouili, who is known to the police in matters of fraud, would be the spouse of Ms. Desjardins, daughter of Raynald, according to our information. He is currently in Mexico, according to various sources who requested anonymity.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/03/23 08:23 PM

He is from the Lebanese community I think.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/07/23 02:21 PM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...tend-depuis-longtemps-s-intensifient.php

The police strikes that the community has been waiting for for a long time are intensifying

A year and a half after Frédérick Silva began collaborating with the police, the revelations of this former hitman in Montreal organized crime, very active for several years, resulted in a first major operation this week.

Important players targeted

According to our information, among the people visited by the police on Wednesday and Thursday, we find Pietro D'Adamo and Vito Salvaggio, whom the police consider to be two important players in the mafia, and the gang leader Jean-Philippe Célestin.
The latter was the right arm of Gregory Woolley, murdered in Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu on November 17, and was present at his burial at the end of last week.
Célestin has several criminal histories. In 2017, he was sentenced to 70 months in prison for gangsterism, conspiracy, possession of cocaine for the purpose of trafficking, cocaine trafficking and money trafficking conspiracy.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/07/23 04:49 PM

It has begun ! The question is how many will Silva takedown with him and will this create a vacuum for others to fill and takeover ?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/07/23 04:58 PM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...-des-grosses-pointures-du-crime-organise

Murder of three innocent people: the police arrive at the big names of organized crime
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/07/23 05:25 PM

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...murder-investigations-going-back-decades

Montreal Mafia, Hells Angels targeted in murder investigations going back decades
Posted By: Liggio

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/07/23 05:37 PM

I doubt much comes out of it. Too many different groups potentially involved. It's not as simple as America.
Posted By: Giacalone

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/07/23 07:24 PM

Is Leonardo Rizzuto still in Montreal? Any sensible human would leave the area
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/07/23 07:40 PM

Mafia : la ’Ndrangheta prépare plus sérieusement sa mainmise sur le Québec depuis 2004

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...nt-sa-mainmise-sur-le-quebec-depuis-2004
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/07/23 08:02 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Mafia : la ’Ndrangheta prépare plus sérieusement sa mainmise sur le Québec depuis 2004

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...nt-sa-mainmise-sur-le-quebec-depuis-2004


Very good article and to the point.
Posted By: Mafia101

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/07/23 08:51 PM

Originally Posted by Giacalone
Is Leonardo Rizzuto still in Montreal? Any sensible human would leave the area


Was as of last Friday because he attended Gregory Woolley's funeral.


Originally Posted by Ciment
Originally Posted by antimafia
Mafia : la ’Ndrangheta prépare plus sérieusement sa mainmise sur le Québec depuis 2004

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...nt-sa-mainmise-sur-le-quebec-depuis-2004


Very good article and to the point.


Pretty poor article that basically is blaming everything on the Ndrangheta and that clearly hasn't been the case.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/07/23 10:15 PM

Not a convincing argument. I reiterate very good article.
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/07/23 10:53 PM

the narrative of the 'ndrangheta backing some of the wars in mtl has been proven overtime to be FALSE. not a single murder has ever been linked back to any 'ndrine based in toronto or calabria...full stop. also the calabrian golden boy in mtl vittorio mirarchi is NOT a member of any known 'ndrangheta anything...none. even claims of him being allied to a specific toronto based group have proven elusive or non existent. the accepted narrative since 2004 has been explained and gone over to death i am curious where just where any of these wars were backed by the 'ndrangheta.

2004-2006
granby based d'amico clan vs. rizzutos

2009-2011
desjardins-devito-dimaulo vs. rizzutos

2012-2013
rizzuto vs. everyone who did them wrong...and several not related to wars but committed under the guise said feud. (i.e.=roger valiquette)

2015-2019
scoppa bros vs. rizzutos

2022-2023
ha (mtl chapter only as of now) vs. rizzutos

-i suppose in late 2023 there could be a small chance of some 'ndrine backing the mtl ha, but lets be honest why would the ha need help. unless i've missed something is there a shortage of willing hitmen? support clubs,associates, street gangs and independents ready and willing to prove there worth to the big club and or cash in like frederick silva did.

i will lastly bring up the case of carmine verduci as an example. almost all reports at the time in 2014 claimed his murder was the revenge of VITO RIZZUTO from the grave and even to this guy seemed possible. but as we now know it was an internal 'ndrangheta feud amongst toronto based groups over gambling. it had nothing to do with montreal. i have tried ad nauseum to find proof relating any of these wars back to toronto and its just not there. even the violi brothers at the apex of there power 2015-2017 to my knowledge never made a move that we know of and i even posted a thread saying as much. i take alot from the scoppa book when it comes to some inside info on montreal. scoppa was said to be the new boss after magot/mastiff busts with the blessing? of the toronto 'ndrangheta. it doesnt even come up in his book and nothing else about toronto really. and since when did toronto dictate what goes on in montreal.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/07/23 11:13 PM

VitoCahill ,

I always welcome your opinion and compelling argument but on this one we do not see eye to eye. At the moment, I have other matters to attend so I will not be able to give you an immediate response but I am looking forward to tomorrow in producing a counter argument. Take care.
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/07/23 11:52 PM

All good ciment, I do not believe with all the subjects and opinions on this site everyone will always agree. How else then to learn something than keep it civil and express our thoughts. Take care yourself.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/08/23 12:36 AM

Montreal is a very complex deal and not all of us will agree on all the theories for sure, hell a lot of them in MTL have no damn idea either lol
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/08/23 02:32 AM

Ndrangheta will become stronger in Montreal they are all over the world and the port is important.
Posted By: Mafia101

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/08/23 03:12 AM

Originally Posted by Ciment
Not a convincing argument. I reiterate very good article.


Lol okay if you wanted a more in depth explanation all you had to do is ask and I'd be happy to give it.

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There are three major mafia families in Italy: the Camorra (Naples), the Cosa Nostra (Sicily) and the 'Ndrangheta (Calabria).


The very first sentence calls the organizations families.

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In the mafia, revenge is a dish best served cold, even frozen. It was in 2004, with the extradition of Vito Rizzuto to the United States for a triple murder committed in 1981 in New York, that the 'Ndrangheta clearly seemed to move its pawns.

As it happened, an internal war broke out between the Sicilians and the Calabrians in Quebec. Vito's father was eliminated (November 2010) as was his son, Nicolo (December 2009), and several of his loyal captains, including Paolo Renda, Federico Del Peschio and Agostino Cuntrera. Then, Vito died in December 2013.


Few things to breakdown in this. First there wasn't an internal war between the Sicilians and Calabrians. That is some made up story that journalists and authors and people online continue to run with. What happened was a internal struggle within the Bonanno crew with members of the crew on both sides both sides having Sicilians and calabrians and other Italians. Where me and Vitocahill disagree is having Joe Di Maulo as one of the main players in this. Most accounts have Joe Di Maulo sitting on the sidelines in this. The main instigator was Sal Montagna along with Giuseppe De Vito and Raynald Desjardins. Sal Montagna tried approaching Joe Di Maulo about getting involved and he wanted no role in it and that's why Moreno Gallo played a larger role.

Secondly they call Paolo Renda Federico Del Peschio and Agostino Cuntrera Captains which wasn't the case and I think I've made my opinion on that very well known here. Even if you disagree with me on that most writings that fall into the Rizzuto Family trap never label Paolo Renda a Captain.

Thirdly how exactly did the Ndrangheta starting moving their pawns after 2004? Who are we even talking about? The Ndrangheta isn't one singular group with the same ambitions and motivations. There's many different clans with their own goals in mind. The way those paragraphs are written would have you believe the Ndrangheta was behind it all. There were some meetings between the Sal Montagna Raynald Desjardins and Giuseppe De Vito camp with certain Ndrangheta members and Dom Violi but that doesn't mean they were behind it or even directly involved.

Vitocahill already touched on it and I will too. Some killings that were all reported to be from a war between the Rizzutos and Ndrangheta turned out to be something else. Carmine Verduci was a big one and it turned out to be nothing related with Montreal and then the Musitano brothers murder was said to he part of this alleged war and it turns out again it had nothing to do with Montreal.

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Although Montreal has always distinguished itself from Italian mafia traditionalism, the fact remains that this system cannot function without a godfather, a direction. It's in the DNA of the mafia.


I found this one the most egregious of the whole article. Montreal has actually been very traditional since forever. I'm not going to go through every single example since we'd be here all night but we saw it back in the 1970s when Paolo Violi had issues with Nicolo Rizzuto because he was being a cowboy doing his own thing. The hot tempered Paolo Violi didn't just murder Nicolo Rizzuto and call it a day. He went to his family's administration in NY and put in a beef. He then went to Sicily and did the same. There was then mediation which didn't end well for Paolo Violi.

When Sicilian members wanted to become members of Bonanno crew in Montreal instead of just inducting them he followed protocol which said they needed to be on record with them for a period of 5-7 years first.

In the 2000s when Montreal wanted a associate serviced by a different member they didn't just say hey you're with him now they went to their administration and requested the change.

It's only been until recently that Montreal has taken a less traditional modus operandi and I think it's no coincidence it coincides in a time of a complete breakdown of Cosa Nostra in the city.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/08/23 03:13 AM

Don't forget the Cotroni family was also ndrangheta.
Posted By: Mafia101

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/08/23 03:20 AM

Their relatives were back in Mammola but Vic and his brothers were not. They were full fledge Cosa Nostra members except for the one.
Posted By: Liggio

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/08/23 04:16 AM

Then who had the Musitano brothers killed?
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/08/23 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by Mafia101
Their relatives were back in Mammola but Vic and his brothers were not. They were full fledge Cosa Nostra members except for the one.


Calabrian bosses have become part of the American Cosa Nostra.
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/08/23 11:18 AM

Originally Posted by Mafia101
Originally Posted by Ciment
Not a convincing argument. I reiterate very good article.


Lol okay if you wanted a more in depth explanation all you had to do is ask and I'd be happy to give it.

Quote
There are three major mafia families in Italy: the Camorra (Naples), the Cosa Nostra (Sicily) and the 'Ndrangheta (Calabria).


The very first sentence calls the organizations families.

Quote
In the mafia, revenge is a dish best served cold, even frozen. It was in 2004, with the extradition of Vito Rizzuto to the United States for a triple murder committed in 1981 in New York, that the 'Ndrangheta clearly seemed to move its pawns.

As it happened, an internal war broke out between the Sicilians and the Calabrians in Quebec. Vito's father was eliminated (November 2010) as was his son, Nicolo (December 2009), and several of his loyal captains, including Paolo Renda, Federico Del Peschio and Agostino Cuntrera. Then, Vito died in December 2013.


Few things to breakdown in this. First there wasn't an internal war between the Sicilians and Calabrians. That is some made up story that journalists and authors and people online continue to run with. What happened was a internal struggle within the Bonanno crew with members of the crew on both sides both sides having Sicilians and calabrians and other Italians. Where me and Vitocahill disagree is having Joe Di Maulo as one of the main players in this. Most accounts have Joe Di Maulo sitting on the sidelines in this. The main instigator was Sal Montagna along with Giuseppe De Vito and Raynald Desjardins. Sal Montagna tried approaching Joe Di Maulo about getting involved and he wanted no role in it and that's why Moreno Gallo played a larger role.

Secondly they call Paolo Renda Federico Del Peschio and Agostino Cuntrera Captains which wasn't the case and I think I've made my opinion on that very well known here. Even if you disagree with me on that most writings that fall into the Rizzuto Family trap never label Paolo Renda a Captain.

Thirdly how exactly did the Ndrangheta starting moving their pawns after 2004? Who are we even talking about? The Ndrangheta isn't one singular group with the same ambitions and motivations. There's many different clans with their own goals in mind. The way those paragraphs are written would have you believe the Ndrangheta was behind it all. There were some meetings between the Sal Montagna Raynald Desjardins and Giuseppe De Vito camp with certain Ndrangheta members and Dom Violi but that doesn't mean they were behind it or even directly involved.

Vitocahill already touched on it and I will too. Some killings that were all reported to be from a war between the Rizzutos and Ndrangheta turned out to be something else. Carmine Verduci was a big one and it turned out to be nothing related with Montreal and then the Musitano brothers murder was said to he part of this alleged war and it turns out again it had nothing to do with Montreal.

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Although Montreal has always distinguished itself from Italian mafia traditionalism, the fact remains that this system cannot function without a godfather, a direction. It's in the DNA of the mafia.


I found this one the most egregious of the whole article. Montreal has actually been very traditional since forever. I'm not going to go through every single example since we'd be here all night but we saw it back in the 1970s when Paolo Violi had issues with Nicolo Rizzuto because he was being a cowboy doing his own thing. The hot tempered Paolo Violi didn't just murder Nicolo Rizzuto and call it a day. He went to his family's administration in NY and put in a beef. He then went to Sicily and did the same. There was then mediation which didn't end well for Paolo Violi.

When Sicilian members wanted to become members of Bonanno crew in Montreal instead of just inducting them he followed protocol which said they needed to be on record with them for a period of 5-7 years first.

In the 2000s when Montreal wanted a associate serviced by a different member they didn't just say hey you're with him now they went to their administration and requested the change.

It's only been until recently that Montreal has taken a less traditional modus operandi and I think it's no coincidence it coincides in a time of a complete breakdown of Cosa Nostra in the city.




I would add a couple things. The Bonnanos lost control of local OC, which they controlled by proxy.. Essentially what we are seeing is local OC assert itself. Also, what exactly is the Caruana- Cuntreras status today? Them losing control of the drug trade lost the streets of Montreal, imo.

Also, Montreal, as top members, had a French guy, a Black guy, a none Made Calabrian, Valiquette, the unmade Scoppas, I dunno. They were pretty mixed up. But I see this as the emergence of
powerful components of local OC. I see the Rizzutos being the central reference, that local OC took direction from. 1st it was the Cotronis as the central reference, then a brief transition to the Violis, then the Rizzutos. Now the Bikers feel strong enough to be the central reference for OC.


The most interesting thing to me about this "Book" is that it seems to be a creature of local Organized Crime, not a extension of a New York based sportsbook operation.
Posted By: TheGhost

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/08/23 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by Liggio
Then who had the Musitano brothers killed?


Una buona domanada? la nuova famiglia? iavarone da Hamilton, ma perchè? anche, i violis sono da Montreal? e mirarchi è da Hamilton? tutti i mafiosi a Hamilton sono calabrese? grazie

the new family? iavarone from Hamilton, but why? also, are the violis from Montreal? and mirarchi is from Hamilton? are all the mobsters in Hamilton Calabrian? Thank you
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/08/23 01:26 PM

the violi family was originally from montreal. after the 1978 of paolo violi his widow and 2 sons, domenico and giuseppe moved to hamilton. as for mirarchi he is originally from catanzaro i believe. to my knowledge he and his late father operated in montreal alone. the violis, and luppinos are, as far as iavarones not sure. and as to why or who took out the musitanos, likely the luppino-violi group with backing of toronto 'ndrines and joe todaro in buffalo.
Posted By: Liggio

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/08/23 02:09 PM

The Caruana-Cuntrera clan isn't completely out of the picture I don't think. This is from one article I read: "On 11 February 2011, Martino Caputo attended the 50th wedding anniversary party for a senior leader of the Cuntrera-Caruana clan in Vaughan"
Posted By: Liggio

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/08/23 05:15 PM

Say whatever you wish about the "fall" of the Rizzuto Clan, but I don't think any of the other groups in Canada will ever be this wealthy and powerful, except for maybe the Ndrangheta:

HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN ASSETS SEIZED FROM MOB-LINKED BUSINESSMAN WITH TIES TO MULTIPLE MAFIA FAMILIES
June 28th, 2009

A multi-million-dollar treasure trove of art, jewels, antiques, real estate, and luxury cars was forfeited to Italian authorities yesterday by a man named as the longtime financier of the Mafia of Montreal.

"He is part of a criminal organization, the Mafia, but he has good taste," said a spokesman for the Italy Direzione Investigativa Antimafia. "We took away everything he had."

Beniamino Gioiello Zappia, 71, known as "Don Tito," is currently imprisoned in Italy for gangsterism and financial crimes, after a probe by the Rome-based anti-Mafia police targeted the European operations of the Rizzuto organization, a Mafia clan based in Montreal that has already been called the "pinnacle of organized crime" in Canada by the RCMP.

Earlier this year, police found hundreds of pieces of artwork, antiques, and archaeological artifacts at Zappia's homes in Milan and in Cattolica Eraclea, the Sicilian village that is also the hometown of Vito Rizzuto, the head of the Mafia in Montreal. The material was turned over to an Italian cultural office for identification and storage. On Thursday, an Italian court judge ordered the property forfeited to the government.

Among the haul are 345 paintings, including works by famed Spanish surrealist artist Salvador Dali, acclaimed Sicilian erotic painter Renato Guttuso, portraitist Giovanni Boldini, surrealist painter Giorgio de Chirico, and other famous Italian artists.

(At least one of the Dali pieces is a fake, according to New York Dali specialist Frank Hunter, who was shown a photograph of the work by the National Post.)

Also confiscated from Zappia were 220 antique clocks; precious stones, gems and crafted jewellery; antique ivory; collector's coins; and many ancient and antique vases, bronzes and statues, including works by Baroque sculptor Domenico Guidi.

More practical items confiscated were several apartment buildings, a jewellery shop, several tracts of real estate, bank accounts, safety deposit boxes and "many nice cars," the D. I. A. said.

An estimated value of the goods had not been calculated but would amount to many millions of dollars, the agency spokesman said.

The seizure adds to the picture of the Rizzuto organization as a vastly wealthy, white-collar and internationally active clan. Zappia was described by officials in Rome as the senior representative of Rizzuto in Italy.

Investigators in several countries have long suspected Zappia to be a financier for the Rizzuto Clan, playing a key role in moving the family's riches to safety.

On May 24, 1988, Swiss authorities tracked him crossing the Italian-Swiss border and making withdrawals from accounts of Rizzuto members at secretive Swiss banks in Lugano. Almost exactly 17 years later he was still a Rizzuto insider, police records show.

On May 23, 2005, wiretaps secretly installed by police in Montreal recorded a Rizzuto leader explaining to Zappia how money from underlings flowed to them at the social club they used as their headquarters.

"When they do something -- and it doesn't matter when they do it -- they always bring something here so it can be divided up among us."

The RCMP shared that information and other suspicious conversations, gathered during Project Colisee, with investigators in Rome. Italian police launched two probes of their own, Operation Brooklyn and Operation Orso Bruno (Italian for Brown Bear), targeting Rizzuto and his men. One investigated attempts to win the massive public works contract to build a bridge linking Sicily to mainland Italy, the other a sprawling European financial empire.

As evidence of the organization's wealth, the bridge contract was worth an estimated $6-billion and the second operation led police to freeze $689-million worth of assets.

"This is the end of our investigations that we started two years ago. We worked with Canadian police against the Rizzuto family," said the D. I. A. spokesman.

In 2007, Italian police arrested bankers, businessmen, investment brokers, and a man linked to the royal family of Italy. In total, arrest warrants were issued against 20 members of the "Italo-Canadian Mafia," including Rizzuto, who is currently in prison in the United States for 3 gangland slayings.

Also named in warrants were Rizzuto's father, Nicolo, and brother-in-law, Paolo Renda. Italian authorities have requested their extradition.

Italian officials yesterday said Zappia is linked not only to the Rizzutos but the Bonanno Family of New York and the Caruana-Cuntrera clan, a notorious group of Sicilian Mafia drug traffickers who were arrested in Toronto in 1998, as well as the Triasi Family. Zappia's sentence is not yet finalized and has several avenues of appeal still open to him.

These guys almost won the contract to build a $6 billion bridge linking Sicily to mainland Italy!
Posted By: Mafia101

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/08/23 05:21 PM

Originally Posted by Liggio
Then who had the Musitano brothers killed?


Like Ghost said it was the Iavarones from what we know and it was due to them supporting the Cuntreras in Toronto.



Originally Posted by Hollander
Originally Posted by Mafia101
Their relatives were back in Mammola but Vic and his brothers were not. They were full fledge Cosa Nostra members except for the one.


Calabrian bosses have become part of the American Cosa Nostra.


Very few and far between. The Cotronis were not one.

Originally Posted by TheGhost
Originally Posted by Liggio
Then who had the Musitano brothers killed?


Una buona domanada? la nuova famiglia? iavarone da Hamilton, ma perchè? anche, i violis sono da Montreal? e mirarchi è da Hamilton? tutti i mafiosi a Hamilton sono calabrese? grazie

the new family? iavarone from Hamilton, but why? also, are the violis from Montreal? and mirarchi is from Hamilton? are all the mobsters in Hamilton Calabrian? Thank you



Paolo Violi started in Hamilton but later mobed to Montreal and thats where he rose to prominence becoming the Acting Captain for the Bonanno crew there. Paolo Violi's sons moved to Hamilton a few years after their father was killed. Vittorio Mirarchi is a Montreal Calabrian but recently been spending more time in Toronto. Almost all of the well known mobsters in Hamilton are Calabrian but there are Sicilians and the Iavarones are neither.

Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/08/23 06:07 PM

Hi, Vito Cahill please don't call him the golden boy ,he is the Ghost lol.

I will begin with Sergio Piccirilli La Presse

An anecdote reveals in a rather particular way that it was not yesterday that criminals connected to the Calabrian clan in Ontario were planning to kill old Nick Rizzuto. In 2005, a man named Sergio Piccirilli joined the D'Amico brothers, from Granby, to launch an assault on Nick Rizzuto and his associates at the Consenza café, which served as their headquarters. For 20 years, Piccirilli had paid the Rizzuto clan a percentage of the profits he made from drug trafficking. The more he prospered, the more “taxes” he had to pay. He ended up balking and no longer wanting to pay. His audacity risked costing him dearly. His Calabrian godfather from Toronto, Franco Mattoso, learned that a price was on his head and informed him.
After Christmas 2005, Piccirilli joined the D'Amicos to intimidate the regulars at Consenza. His henchmen stationed themselves discreetly near the café to observe the comings and goings of Rizzuto and his acolytes.
“He’s in the cafe window!” one of his men, armed with a rifle, said to him when he saw old Nick through the window. I see it as it should be. I could do it easily!” “Don’t do anything tonight,” Piccirilli replied. I have to go to Toronto first.”

DeMaria Montreal Gazette

In 2012, police warned Demaria that they had reason to believe the Rizzuto organization wanted him dead. Melo’s death was listed along with the 2010 murder of Montreal Mafia leader Nicolo (Zio Cola) Rizzuto and the disappearance of his son-in-law Paolo Renda, also in 2010, as a series of events believed to be part of the “historical conflict.”
During the deportation hearing, the police presented evidence that after Gagné learned he was going to be charged with Melo and Pavao’s murders, he called Demaria from prison and told the alleged ‘Ndrangheta leader about the development. The call was secretly recorded by police as Demaria replied simply with “I can’t help you” before hanging up.

Cortese

A mysterious man linked to an alleged Mafia boss based in Toronto and who has been jailed because of a shoplifting case in Montreal has organized crime investigators in both cities intrigued. Nicola Cortese, 46, was sentenced yesterday at the Montreal courthouse to a seven-month prison term for relatively minor offences related to his bizarre arrest on Nov. 13, when he attempted to shoplift items from a Canadian Tire store in the St. Laurent borough. Cortese tried to steal a handgun holster, an ammunition pouch for 12-gauge shotgun shells, a black balaclava and another item. Despite having more than $3,000 in $100 bills on him, Cortese purchased only a flashlight while the other items were hidden in his clothes.
More intriguing to organized crime investigators in Montreal is that Cortese is the cousin and former business partner of Vincenzo DeMaria, a man who is alleged by Italian authorities to be a mob leader with a seat on a board that controls the Ontario clans of the 'Ndrangheta, the proper name of the Calabrian Mafia. The same group has clashed with the Rizzuto crime family, whose members are mostly of Sicilian origin, in the past. 

Business or Blood p184

Return of Vito:
Some things remained clear. There was no possibility of any common ground with relatives of Paolo Violi. Vito had never really liked members of the Commisso-Ndrangheta family. How things stood with Carmelo Bruzese wasn’t so clear. They had once been friendly , but Bruzese son in law was Antonio Coluccio, and the Coluccio’s seemed central to the Ndrangheta’s attempt to push into Montreal.

Business or Blood p209

Police responded to the wave of violence with a handful of arrests and a whole lot of theories. Among them , authorities speculated that the Ndrangheta members from Toronto and Violi’s hometown of Hamilton were involved in some of the trigger pulling.


Mirarchi meeting with Ndrangheta Business or Blood p78

It was around the time of Del Peshio’s killing in 2009 that Mirarchi and Desjardins quietly made a trip to Woodbridge. They met at a York region restaurant owned by a relative of Antonio Commisso the Lawyer who was not there because he was extradited to Italy.

Sal Montagna Business or Blood p-99

Soon after his move in Canada, Sal Montagna quietly appeared in the GTA and nearby Hamilton , meeting up with members of the camera di control of the local Ndrangheta. Curiously, he didn’t seem at all interested in meeting with the local Sicilian mobsters, even though this was accepted protocol since he was Sicilian himself.

Business or Blood P37.

Desjardin & Mirarchi now seem in sync with the Ndrangheta in Toronto and some heavy duty Quebec Hells Angels.

Business or Blood p73

Devito met with Ndrangheta

Business or Blood Mirarchi p35-36

trips to Ontario meeting with well established Ndrangheta members

Facts:

All of Rizzuto's rivals had meetings with Toronto Ndrangheta and Hamilton mobsters or had someone represent them. So did Gallo , Desjardins who also represents his brother-in-law. Scoppa at first was allied with Mirarchi and then went their separate ways.

Sal Montagna had meetings with the Ndrangheta and completely ignored the Caruana/Cuntrera clan in Toronto.

What Maria Mourani the criminologists is implying is that Toronto pulled the strings.

Nicasso had stated in the past that the Ndrangheta wants access to several ports. Montreal being one of them.

Reminder Piccirilli 's girlfriend is Martin Robert's mother in law. Medias have now confirmed that HA are feuding with the Rizzuto furthermore more Martin has surrounded himself with Rizzuto rivals such as Piccirilli, Del Balso now dead, Pietrantonio and other like Ontario HA that do business with the Ndrangheta.

Hamilton Violi's are the grandsons of Giacomo Luppino who sat on the Ndrangheta Camera di Controlo, Two of Giacomo Luppino's daughters married into the Commisso family. All three groups have special interest in Montreal affairs.













Posted By: m2w

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/08/23 07:07 PM

sal montagna meetings with the Ndrangheta is a fact or speculations?
Posted By: Liggio

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/08/23 07:18 PM

These guys are under constant surveillance, so if law enforcement says that he met with Ndrangheta figures, I tend to believe them. To tell you the truth, if we only had access to law enforcement's database of photos, wiretaps, and video recordings it would put our mob collections to shame. They even went so far as to say that he steered clear of fellow Sicilian mobsters while meeting with Calabrians. Apparently, someone knows a lot more than us mere internet mob buffs.
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/08/23 07:55 PM

all good points ciment. the more i read business or blood however the more it reads like a rush job and its utter lack of specifics as to names and who met who was a very frustrating part of the book. its main thesis stated or not is sicilian vs. calabrian. but to a few of yer points.

of all these meetings that took place noone has ever said whom desjardins, mirarchi, montagna, gallo etc actually met with amongst the powers that be in toronto and hamilton. how many members of the control board of 'ndrangheta were there during that time? 5,7,10?? i have no idea but theres a few options for sure. and which 'ndrines? just from the siderno group which as we have found out is distinct from other toronto calabrian groups. as far as i know it is not illegal in canada for law enforcement or media/authors to name someone in a picture. now with the passage of time still none of these pics come out proving conclusively who was meeting who, perhaps there is a book being written as we speak that may indeed reveal this.

del peschio if we are to believe the claims in scoppa book was murdered over a large debt owed by tony magi that magi did not want to pay and for that he was taken out. i am not aware of any connection whatsoever that magi had to high level or low level members in toronto. it is possible the meeting desjardins/mirarchi had in woodbridge around this time is pure coincidence and was related to other business, likely cocaine importation.

not one boss, leader of any 'ndrangheta group has ever been actually shot at by anyone let alone a proven hit team from montreal that could even loosely be traced back to the rizzutos or there allies. commisso bros, demaria (to be fair he has been imprisoned alot, but no attempts in jail either), ursino, figliomeni, bruzzese, violi bros. the only real case was the home invasion of natale luppino in 2018. all involved were from montreal but even as of now there is no good proof as to who they were working for. also not a pro job if indeed it was a hit. they broke the door down with the back of a toilet and only brought a knife so likely there was another motive.

[BadWord] faction in ontario. he met with the leaders in toronto, allegedly and if we are to believe he had there backing how is it he was murdered by desjardins and mirarchi also alleged to be working for the very same people. montagna was murdered because he thought with his past rep and title from new york that would mean something to people in montreal, he found out the hard way it did not. montagna wanted all of montreal to himself/bonannos and desjardins et al were never going to let that happen. a quick aside on this as well, the sept 2011 attempt on desjardins by jetski was also blamed on montagna at the time. again from the scoppa book we find out that it was roger valiquette who was behind this not montagna and his group. then just 2 years later we were being told valiquettes murder (2013) was the revenge of the rizzutos against an allie of desjardins??? valiquette was murdered by stefano sollecito and his group (rizzutos) to get control of...THE BOOK.

the trafficking of drugs into canada through port of mtl is obviously still happening, but lets be honest the majority of drugs, largely cocaine enters ontario at shared border crossings with america. possible the 'ndrangheta is using port to ship stolen vehicles out of canada as that has become a huge racket lately.

there is as you have posted above ample evidence of meetings in toronto but what we still dont have is the smoking gun so to speak proving exactly which group may have indeed been plotting against the rizzutos. the sicilian vs. calabrian narrative as i said previous was one i accepted for awhile but the actual facts, the little we know have thus far proven otherwise.

good debate, keep em coming.
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/08/23 08:10 PM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...e-qui-ebranle-les-colonnes-du-temple.php

another silva article.
Posted By: Mafia101

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/08/23 08:32 PM

Exactly Vitocahill. Yes meetings took place which no one is denying but as you put it no smoking gun has been found.

It's been awhile since I've read Business or Blood so I'm hazy on some things said in it but what I remember is it not being heavy on where a lot of what they claim comes from except for vague references. I know people got upset last time I said this but the author Antonio Nicaso isn't a great source for this stuff even though he has all these degrees and books under his belt. Peter Edwards is no better when it comes to Montreal and he'll still to this day try to sell you his stupid theory that Vito Rizzuto was murdered by poison.
Posted By: Liggio

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/08/23 08:44 PM

Seems like some people here believe that the Hells Angels or other gangs are behind all the murders, meaning that none of them were mob hits making the very title of this thread invalid. If it was bikers instead of mobsters, then technically it's not a "mob war" at all but an extermination campaign carried out by bikers and other gangs against the mob.

So who was responsible for the murders of Nicolo Rizzuto and Paolo Renda? The Hells Angels? Wolfpack? Anyone know, since Business or Blood can't be trusted?
Posted By: Mafia101

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/08/23 09:05 PM

Liggio no one has said anything you just said. Reread it again and you'll see me and VitoCahill have only said it isn't some longstanding Cosa Nostra vs Ndrangheta war. Both of have have explained those murders several times over too.
Posted By: Liggio

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/08/23 09:20 PM

I figured out a good explanation for why Cortese was stealing ammunition and masks even though he was carrying more than $3,000 on him. Think about it, if you're a gangster you don't want to leave a paper trail or for the store clerk to remember your face when going to the store for stuff like that. Makes perfect sense for why he would only pay for the flashlight.
Posted By: Liggio

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/08/23 11:05 PM

The fact remains that the vast majority of the murders up there are unsolved. Even the lists that have been put together are full of question marks, theories, and maybe so's. It gets kinda frustrating tbh lol because I really want to know what the hell is going on.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/09/23 03:37 AM

So all these meetings, Rizzuto rivals had with the Ndrangheta in Toronto or Hamilton, was to discuss the weather over a cup of tea LOL.
But yet facts from credible journalists ,criminologists and authors ; are all null and void because of a smoking gun which in the world of secret societies is mostly non existent.

Nevertheless I enjoyed having expressed my opinion in this matter.



Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/09/23 04:26 AM

Originally Posted by Liggio
Seems like some people here believe that the Hells Angels or other gangs are behind all the murders, meaning that none of them were mob hits making the very title of this thread invalid. If it was bikers instead of mobsters, then technically it's not a "mob war" at all but an extermination campaign carried out by bikers and other gangs against the mob.

So who was responsible for the murders of Nicolo Rizzuto and Paolo Renda? The Hells Angels? Wolfpack? Anyone know, since Business or Blood can't be trusted?


Very good point Liggio.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/09/23 04:29 AM

Originally Posted by Liggio
These guys are under constant surveillance, so if law enforcement says that he met with Ndrangheta figures, I tend to believe them. To tell you the truth, if we only had access to law enforcement's database of photos, wiretaps, and video recordings it would put our mob collections to shame. They even went so far as to say that he steered clear of fellow Sicilian mobsters while meeting with Calabrians. Apparently, someone knows a lot more than us mere internet mob buffs.


Another good point Liggio ,your on a roll !
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/09/23 01:16 PM

where did anyone claim that the HA were behind all of this? aside from the most recent conflict over 'THE BOOK' 2022- cont' the HA during the majority of these wars were imprisoned after numerous investigations and played almost no part and took no sides. it wasnt until VITOS release where the MAFIA-HA-WOOLLEY alliance took hold 2012-2015. i mean all but 1 of the over 100 full patch members were in jail at one point.

i have pointed through an exhaustive re check of many past murders in montreal how some should not be listed as being specific to a particular war. some not all were murders of opportunity over unpaid debts, money, take over of rackets or territory but not as part of revenge or total control of the city. there have been several cases of mistaken identity and the wrong people being killed. there have been some where it has been alleged it is indeed the HA 'cleaning house' on some of its own associates. the hard part for everyone is that there has been a tendency to lump every single murder in mtl (or toronto for that matter) into one all encompassing war. this is what is causing alot of confusion i find. the hair trigger approach by some is to assume they are all linked, and all linked to a larger quebec vs ontario or sicilian vs calabrian or 'the great canadian mafia war' moniker. when more likely it is several conflicts, wars and disputes in granted a small area geographically (montreal to toronto corridor) with some cross over amongst criminal groups. its a dogs breakfast to sort out is what im driving at. so assume nothing when guys go down and the purpose or reason. it is gonna take much more time to get a real look behind the curtain. perhaps silvas cooperation will be the straw?

one example of media et al jumping to conclusions. and really they cant be blamed in this era of who gets the story first. rocco zito. zito was murdered in 2011 and the all the initial reports were that it was the sicilians fighting back against those 'ndrangheta usurpers from toronto. what a big hit against this respected senior member. and then...it turned out fairly quickly i recall that the murder was by his son-in-law and had nothing, absolutely nothing to do with any mafia affairs whatsoever. his son-in-law had been taking care of zito who was old, infirm and totally inactive in the 'ndrangheta world. zitos name likely still shows up in 'great canadian mafia war' lists polluting the internet along with many others.

my views on this are clear and i do enjoy the discussion and debate. i also appreciate how unlike past threads this has not digressed into typical online name calling. simply state yer case wait for a response reply etc. this is the way it should work. the situation is confusing i get that, trust me, and us online sleuths as said by others stand little chance in figuring most of this out. but we press on dont we. i liken following the milieu and mafia/oc in canada in general to reading about quantum mechanics. as soon as you've read about a theory its almost irrelevant or has changed or a new study, test or report has come to a new conclusion totally opposite of what one expected. thats what keeps us following along though i guess. say what you want about all this...it aint boring fellas.
Posted By: Liggio

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/09/23 01:46 PM

I totally get your points Vito, and you are making a lot of sense. Everyone wants all of this to be so simple, when in reality it's extremely complex and complicated.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/09/23 01:52 PM

The Violi bros have long been suspected in the hits on Nicolo Rizzuto and Paolo Renda. At least they had a clear motive the murders of their father and uncles.
Posted By: Liggio

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/09/23 01:52 PM

That Rocco Zito murder was as disappointing as the Frank Cali killing, turning out to be a personal matter. What a snooze. Nobody wants to see anyone get killed but mob hits are more intriguing than say someone getting murdered over insurance money, we can get enough of that on LifeTime channel.
Posted By: Liggio

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/09/23 01:55 PM

Imagine Joe Massino is ultimately responsible for most of this mayhem when he flipped leading Vito Rizzuto to be jailed in the US. I guess he got his revenge for the Rizzutos breaking away from the Bonanno Family afterall.
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/09/23 04:18 PM

The Violi's had nothing to do with those murders.
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/09/23 04:19 PM

The sniper in the window thing was done so people think it came from them, but it did not.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/09/23 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by VitoCahill
where did anyone claim that the HA were behind all of this? aside from the most recent conflict over 'THE BOOK' 2022- cont' the HA during the majority of these wars were imprisoned after numerous investigations and played almost no part and took no sides. it wasnt until VITOS release where the MAFIA-HA-WOOLLEY alliance took hold 2012-2015. i mean all but 1 of the over 100 full patch members were in jail at one point.

i have pointed through an exhaustive re check of many past murders in montreal how some should not be listed as being specific to a particular war. some not all were murders of opportunity over unpaid debts, money, take over of rackets or territory but not as part of revenge or total control of the city. there have been several cases of mistaken identity and the wrong people being killed. there have been some where it has been alleged it is indeed the HA 'cleaning house' on some of its own associates. the hard part for everyone is that there has been a tendency to lump every single murder in mtl (or toronto for that matter) into one all encompassing war. this is what is causing alot of confusion i find. the hair trigger approach by some is to assume they are all linked, and all linked to a larger quebec vs ontario or sicilian vs calabrian or 'the great canadian mafia war' moniker. when more likely it is several conflicts, wars and disputes in granted a small area geographically (montreal to toronto corridor) with some cross over amongst criminal groups. its a dogs breakfast to sort out is what im driving at. so assume nothing when guys go down and the purpose or reason. it is gonna take much more time to get a real look behind the curtain. perhaps silvas cooperation will be the straw?

one example of media et al jumping to conclusions. and really they cant be blamed in this era of who gets the story first. rocco zito. zito was murdered in 2011 and the all the initial reports were that it was the sicilians fighting back against those 'ndrangheta usurpers from toronto. what a big hit against this respected senior member. and then...it turned out fairly quickly i recall that the murder was by his son-in-law and had nothing, absolutely nothing to do with any mafia affairs whatsoever. his son-in-law had been taking care of zito who was old, infirm and totally inactive in the 'ndrangheta world. zitos name likely still shows up in 'great canadian mafia war' lists polluting the internet along with many others.

my views on this are clear and i do enjoy the discussion and debate. i also appreciate how unlike past threads this has not digressed into typical online name calling. simply state yer case wait for a response reply etc. this is the way it should work. the situation is confusing i get that, trust me, and us online sleuths as said by others stand little chance in figuring most of this out. but we press on dont we. i liken following the milieu and mafia/oc in canada in general to reading about quantum mechanics. as soon as you've read about a theory its almost irrelevant or has changed or a new study, test or report has come to a new conclusion totally opposite of what one expected. thats what keeps us following along though i guess. say what you want about all this...it aint boring fellas.


Vito Cahill although I disagree with some of your points, as always , you have made a good argument. I agree that the media likes to rush to conclusions sometimes. But in general it works it's way out and they get it right. The Zito example is a perfect example. When I first heard of the murder it was natural to conclude some rival had him shot but it did not take long enough for his son-in- law to turn himself in. In my opinion it was resolved fairly quickly and do not see the point. Authors of books will make mistakes but in general I find Business or Blood to be an excellent book. Authors and journalists are privy to more information than we do. They often get information from taped conversations and other off the record information from law enforcement. Many of these mobsters or gangsters are often victims of surveillance. Meetings are recorded. I also exhausted my time to put together an argument.
The readers come to a conclusion and it may not be the same from one reader to another. But there has to be parameters, anyone can dismiss information and say there is no smoking gun. Leaders seldom get caught because they have others to do their dirty work.

To get back to the war.
The wars in Quebec is multi facade.

1- There is the Violi revenge of their father. The Violi's over the years have gained more status in the crime world and to say they didn't play any part in some of the murders is inconceivable.
2- x Cotroni members & drug traffickers were displeased under the Rizzuto regime and caused rebellion
3- HA took advantage of this rebellion
4- The Ndrangheta also seen this as an opportunity.to expand and gain access to more ports. This would make them more versatile for trafficking.
5- Sal Montagna also seen it as an opportunity to make inroads and regain lost investments for the Bonanno's
6-The street gangs wanting more power and territory.

Some criminologists for example Maria Mourani would question, who among these groups would end at the top of the food chain. The logical one, being the most powerful of them all is the Ndrangheta. That is the crux of her reasoning in the recent article she wrote.

The internal war in Quebec caused splits between Sicilians and Calabrian groups. For example the Arcuri's were rivals to fellow Sicilians such as the Rizzuto's. On the other hand you had Arcadi a Calabrian fighting along with the Rizzuto's. The two prevalent mafia's are either Sicilian or Calabrian and this is what causes the confusion.

I produced a mountain of evidence in the previous post, showing a large portion of Rizzuto rivals fraternizing with the Ndrangheta. It is obvious that individuals were seeking support and approval from the Ndrangheta. I can't see this evidence as being made up , most of it most likely came from police surveillance. The smoking gun argument is implied too easily. Montreal mafia leaders for example, never got caught for murder crimes because they never found a smoking gun. They have people to do their dirty work. Is one to believe they had nothing to do with it ? Furthermore , Montreal mafia point men that were sent to Ontario to look after some of their interests, were killed. Two Ndrangheta members killed by Panepinto ,a Rizzuto associate. What are we to say about that ? the Musitano's joining forces with the Rizzuto's there were casualties in that war too. Ndrangheta relatives also suffered casualties. Are we to dismiss that as well ?

I also enjoy these debates with you Vito and we kept it civil enough. LOL.


Posted By: Liggio

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/09/23 05:05 PM

So Scalish, if the Violis had absolutely nothing to do with the murders (which I personally highly doubt) then who was behind the murders of Nicolo Rizzuto and Paolo Renda? Please tell us we would really love to know.
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/09/23 05:34 PM

Hey Liggio, I really hate saying names but those murders were done by the Sal the Iron worker, Desjardins and Mirarchi peeps, also Nick Jr.
Posted By: Liggio

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/09/23 05:45 PM

Oh I see. Well one of those guys are long gone anyway. But Ciment is right, the Violi name has been making a comeback in the underworld recently.
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/09/23 06:07 PM

Bro here in Hamilton the Violi name has been big for a very long time. And I can say this from knowing him, Dom Violi is a gentleman.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/09/23 06:53 PM

We should not separate the people who made the decision from those the who executed some of the murders. Both played a part. Sal Montagna made several trips to Hamilton and Toronto. He mustered support from both. The decision was made in Ontario over a cup of tea LOL and the execution was carried out in Montreal.
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/09/23 07:01 PM

Sal was the one looking for support though not Dom. Lmao cup of tea and espresso with a shot of bucca
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/09/23 07:01 PM

I had one this morning warms you up good for the winter
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/09/23 07:06 PM

Originally Posted by Scalish
Sal was the one looking for support though not Dom. Lmao cup of tea and espresso with a shot of bucca


Yes, I meant Sal.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/09/23 07:08 PM

Originally Posted by Scalish
Sal was the one looking for support though not Dom. Lmao cup of tea and espresso with a shot of bucca



Yes the espresso and a shot of bucca is much better. LOL
Posted By: Mafia101

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/09/23 07:12 PM

You guys keep asking the same old questions and I've answered them several times. You can ignore me all you want but VitoCahill has also answered and explained them. You want this Cosa Nostra vs Ndrangheta story to be true so bad you're ignoring the evidence we have and jumping to conclusions that support your Cosa Nostra vs Ndrangheta war story.

Paolo Renda asked and answered. Nicoloa Rizzuto Jr and Sr asked and answered. Musitano brothers asked and answered.

Everyone can keep it civil but at some point it gets exhausting when one side just isn't listening and ignoring the info we have available to us.
Posted By: Liggio

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/09/23 08:04 PM

From what I can gather, they're not saying it was a Cosa Nostra vs Ndrangheta thing. They're saying that one of the conspirators behind the murders, Salvatore Montagna, was seeking support from Ndrangheta figures.
Posted By: Liggio

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/09/23 08:07 PM

If we can conclude that Montagna was indeed moving heavily against the Mafia powers that be in Montreal then it's only sensible that the mob meetings surveillance caught him having was to try and further that agenda. At least that makes sense to me.
Posted By: TheGhost

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/09/23 08:12 PM

Originally Posted by VitoCahill
the violi family was originally from montreal. after the 1978 of paolo violi his widow and 2 sons, domenico and giuseppe moved to hamilton. as for mirarchi he is originally from catanzaro i believe. to my knowledge he and his late father operated in montreal alone. the violis, and luppinos are, as far as iavarones not sure. and as to why or who took out the musitanos, likely the luppino-violi group with backing of toronto 'ndrines and joe todaro in buffalo.


grazie per tua riposta , che bello!

thanks for the answer.
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/10/23 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment
Originally Posted by VitoCahill
where did anyone claim that the HA were behind all of this? aside from the most recent conflict over 'THE BOOK' 2022- cont' the HA during the majority of these wars were imprisoned after numerous investigations and played almost no part and took no sides. it wasnt until VITOS release where the MAFIA-HA-WOOLLEY alliance took hold 2012-2015. i mean all but 1 of the over 100 full patch members were in jail at one point.

i have pointed through an exhaustive re check of many past murders in montreal how some should not be listed as being specific to a particular war. some not all were murders of opportunity over unpaid debts, money, take over of rackets or territory but not as part of revenge or total control of the city. there have been several cases of mistaken identity and the wrong people being killed. there have been some where it has been alleged it is indeed the HA 'cleaning house' on some of its own associates. the hard part for everyone is that there has been a tendency to lump every single murder in mtl (or toronto for that matter) into one all encompassing war. this is what is causing alot of confusion i find. the hair trigger approach by some is to assume they are all linked, and all linked to a larger quebec vs ontario or sicilian vs calabrian or 'the great canadian mafia war' moniker. when more likely it is several conflicts, wars and disputes in granted a small area geographically (montreal to toronto corridor) with some cross over amongst criminal groups. its a dogs breakfast to sort out is what im driving at. so assume nothing when guys go down and the purpose or reason. it is gonna take much more time to get a real look behind the curtain. perhaps silvas cooperation will be the straw?

one example of media et al jumping to conclusions. and really they cant be blamed in this era of who gets the story first. rocco zito. zito was murdered in 2011 and the all the initial reports were that it was the sicilians fighting back against those 'ndrangheta usurpers from toronto. what a big hit against this respected senior member. and then...it turned out fairly quickly i recall that the murder was by his son-in-law and had nothing, absolutely nothing to do with any mafia affairs whatsoever. his son-in-law had been taking care of zito who was old, infirm and totally inactive in the 'ndrangheta world. zitos name likely still shows up in 'great canadian mafia war' lists polluting the internet along with many others.

my views on this are clear and i do enjoy the discussion and debate. i also appreciate how unlike past threads this has not digressed into typical online name calling. simply state yer case wait for a response reply etc. this is the way it should work. the situation is confusing i get that, trust me, and us online sleuths as said by others stand little chance in figuring most of this out. but we press on dont we. i liken following the milieu and mafia/oc in canada in general to reading about quantum mechanics. as soon as you've read about a theory its almost irrelevant or has changed or a new study, test or report has come to a new conclusion totally opposite of what one expected. thats what keeps us following along though i guess. say what you want about all this...it aint boring fellas.


Vito Cahill although I disagree with some of your points, as always , you have made a good argument. I agree that the media likes to rush to conclusions sometimes. But in general it works it's way out and they get it right. The Zito example is a perfect example. When I first heard of the murder it was natural to conclude some rival had him shot but it did not take long enough for his son-in- law to turn himself in. In my opinion it was resolved fairly quickly and do not see the point. Authors of books will make mistakes but in general I find Business or Blood to be an excellent book. Authors and journalists are privy to more information than we do. They often get information from taped conversations and other off the record information from law enforcement. Many of these mobsters or gangsters are often victims of surveillance. Meetings are recorded. I also exhausted my time to put together an argument.
The readers come to a conclusion and it may not be the same from one reader to another. But there has to be parameters, anyone can dismiss information and say there is no smoking gun. Leaders seldom get caught because they have others to do their dirty work.

To get back to the war.
The wars in Quebec is multi facade.

1- There is the Violi revenge of their father. The Violi's over the years have gained more status in the crime world and to say they didn't play any part in some of the murders is inconceivable.
2- x Cotroni members & drug traffickers were displeased under the Rizzuto regime and caused rebellion
3- HA took advantage of this rebellion
4- The Ndrangheta also seen this as an opportunity.to expand and gain access to more ports. This would make them more versatile for trafficking.
5- Sal Montagna also seen it as an opportunity to make inroads and regain lost investments for the Bonanno's
6-The street gangs wanting more power and territory.

Some criminologists for example Maria Mourani would question, who among these groups would end at the top of the food chain. The logical one, being the most powerful of them all is the Ndrangheta. That is the crux of her reasoning in the recent article she wrote.

The internal war in Quebec caused splits between Sicilians and Calabrian groups. For example the Arcuri's were rivals to fellow Sicilians such as the Rizzuto's. On the other hand you had Arcadi a Calabrian fighting along with the Rizzuto's. The two prevalent mafia's are either Sicilian or Calabrian and this is what causes the confusion.

I produced a mountain of evidence in the previous post, showing a large portion of Rizzuto rivals fraternizing with the Ndrangheta. It is obvious that individuals were seeking support and approval from the Ndrangheta. I can't see this evidence as being made up , most of it most likely came from police surveillance. The smoking gun argument is implied too easily. Montreal mafia leaders for example, never got caught for murder crimes because they never found a smoking gun. They have people to do their dirty work. Is one to believe they had nothing to do with it. Furthermore , Montreal mafia point men that were sent to Ontario to look after some of their interests, were killed. Two Ndrangheta members killed by Panepinto ,a Rizzuto associate, what are we to say about that. the Musitano's joining forces with the Rizzuto's there were casualties in that war too. Ndrangheta relatives also suffered casualties. Are we to dismiss that as well.

I also enjoy these debates with you Vito and we kept it civil enough. LOL.




I like this post a lot. I agree....
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/13/23 07:49 PM

Un proche de l’ex-tueur à gages Frédérick Silva assassiné au Mexique
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...frederick-silva-assassine-au-mexique.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/13/23 07:55 PM

^^^^
https://x.com/felixseguin/status/1735024187989725419?s=46&t=ec5JjzW4kIbijwKywCiI0w
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/13/23 08:47 PM

^^^^
Le bras droit d’un influent Hells est assassiné au Mexique
https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...-influent-hells-est-assassine-au-mexique
Posted By: Malavita

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/13/23 08:54 PM

It shows how wide the HA network is, if they can order a killing in Mexico from Quebec.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/13/23 09:12 PM

^^^^
Un proche des Hells Angels et de l’ex-tueur à gage Frédérick Silva tué au Mexique
https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvell...s-angels-frederick-silva-enquete-spvm-sq
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/13/23 09:30 PM

^^^^
Quebecer with close ties to Hells Angels killed in Mexico
https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...se-ties-to-hells-angels-killed-in-mexico
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/13/23 10:26 PM

despite the many contradictory and past associations the consensus seems to be that samy tamouro was allied with the HA. to be more specific the montreal chapter and F.P. jean richard lariviere. i think we need to disregard the claims of being close to celestin, this seems like a past connection when there was still a working alliance amongst MAFIA-HA-WOOLLEY etc. the lapresse article also claims that tamouro was still active or receiving 'tax' for areas hoch-maiss and the laurentians for cocaine and meth trafficking. these 2 areas are HA territory, NOT celestin, MAFIA or otherwise. the most recent journal article claimed tamouro was allied with mtl chapter and 'right arm' of above mentioned lariviere.

but alas despite which side we can conclusively place tamouro on, the motive as usual remains unclear. was it an HA purge do to fear of tamouros past connections to silva? was it the rizzuto-sollecito clan taking out an important player from the robert/plouffe side? tamouros presence in mexico is curious, perhaps there in hiding or setting up cocaine shipments, although this has not been mentioned and is only my suspicion. or as some other murders in the milieu have turned out to be this one served a dual purpose for several different parties.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/13/23 11:07 PM

Israeli citizen? According to preliminary reports, Tamouro had a criminal record in Europe for money laundering and had spent time in prison for this crime.

https://www.palcoquintanarroense.co...jecutan-a-ciudadano-israeli-en-gimnasio/

Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/13/23 11:20 PM

Originally Posted by Malavita
It shows how wide the HA network is, if they can order a killing in Mexico from Quebec.



Cocaine trafficker Adham Haouili is currently in Mexico, according to various sources who requested anonymity. Haouili is the spouse of Vanessa Desjardins, daughter of Raynald.
Posted By: TheGhost

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/13/23 11:48 PM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Originally Posted by Malavita
It shows how wide the HA network is, if they can order a killing in Mexico from Quebec.



Cocaine trafficker Adham Haouili is currently in Mexico, according to various sources who requested anonymity. Haouili is the spouse of Vanessa Desjardins, daughter of Raynald.


Haouili è libanese e un parente di Desjardins? gli uomini francesi non sono bianchi e le loro figlie bianche?

they are blood? children exist from this? this is normal?



Marty il capo? Comparè Ray? hanno divento italiani? una storia interessante

why they wish the names are Italian when they trying to kill Italians?

è difficile da capire il video in inglese se sono sbagilato. mi dispiace
Posted By: Liggio

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/14/23 12:54 AM

Canadian gangsters love to stay in shape, they're almost always killed near a gym.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/14/23 01:21 AM

Originally Posted by TheGhost


Haouili è libanese e un parente di Desjardins? gli uomini francesi non sono bianchi e le loro figlie bianche?



Yes he is Lebanese and in a relation with Raynald's daughter.
Posted By: streetbossliborio

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/14/23 01:33 AM

The mob/OC violence in Canada is insane. Every few months without fail big long term faces are wiped out. And nothings clear, so many factions and changing alliances. Must be all underpinned by a lot money ultimately
Posted By: Liggio

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/14/23 01:52 AM

Bodies are dropping up there like it's the 1920s and most people are unaware of it lol.
Posted By: Liggio

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/14/23 02:44 AM

I hope when all this shit is over someone has enough information to write a really good book, starting with Vito Rizzuto going away. I imagine it might even take a series of books. If we're ever able to know everything, you're talking about at least a 1,000-page book.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/14/23 02:52 AM

https://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2023/12/13/un-delateur-a-lorigine-dune-purge-dans-la-mafia-montrealaise

It is a police theory seriously considered by the Canadian, Quebec and Montreal authorities.The murder of Samy Tamouro possibly marks the start of a purge within organized crime caused by the “betrayal” of hitman Frédérik Silva who decided to become an informer.
“The numerous police sources that we consulted today believe that the upcoming police operations which will arrest the most famous Montreal gangsters will destabilize organized crime to such an extent that Silva's accomplices, including Samy Tamouro is one, have every interest in being eliminated by those who could be victims of a police raid to silence those who already know too much about their actions,” explained the journalist and host of JE, Félix Séguin, in an interview with the show “Le Bilan”.

A police source also told the journalist a few weeks ago that Samy Tamouro was going to be killed. The head of the 37-year-old man had therefore obviously been priced for some time.

This murder is in addition to several other deaths that have occurred in recent years within Montreal organized crime.
It was the death of Vito Rizzuto in 2013 which would have led to a game of dominoes within the mafia. The Montreal clan has been in decline for a decade and this decline accelerated with the arrest of Frédérik Silva and the fact that the latter agreed to become an informer.

Ultimately, it could be that almost all the influential members of Montreal organized crime will be replaced as part of the anticipated purge by the police.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/14/23 03:50 AM

Originally Posted by Liggio
Canadian gangsters love to stay in shape, they're almost always killed near a gym.


Yep you’d think they would have learned by now. The list is VERY LONG of those killed or arrested near the gym
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/14/23 05:02 AM

Originally Posted by dixiemafia
Originally Posted by Liggio
Canadian gangsters love to stay in shape, they're almost always killed near a gym.


Yep you’d think they would have learned by now. The list is VERY LONG of those killed or arrested near the gym


I updated the list for you guys. Samy Tamouro violated two cardinal rules

1- Avoid the gym
2- Never exile to Mexico (they are doing hits in Mexico as well)

GYM list :

Aug.1,2005 Giovanni Bertolo was shot dead in parking lot of Metropolis Gym on Henri Bourassa Blvd.
June 2009 Dany DeGregorio Mafia was shot and injured near St. Leonard GYM
March 2016 Lorenzo Giordano Mafia shot dead near GYM in Laval
June 2018 John McKenzie West end gang shot and injured near Extreme Evolution gym
Dec.6,2018 Jogh Singh Manji was killed after leaving a gym in a commercial complex in the Mexico City . UN Street gang member
March 2019 Michael Deabaitua-Schulde, Hells Angels ,was killed moments after exiting a gym at a busy Mississauga plaza
Oct 2019 Roger Bishop ties to HA shot dead outside Brossard GYM
Oct. 2019 Andrew Scoppa Mafia shot dead out side West Island GYM, Pierrefond
Nov.20,2019 Benedetto Manasseri, shot and injured, Movati Athletic GYM on Meadowlands Dr Ottawa
Jun 2023 Francesco Del Balso Mafia shot dead outside Dorval GYM Ottawa
Dec.13,2023 Samy Tamouro HA, shot dead in Total Sport gym, la plaza Puerto Cancún, Mexico
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/14/23 12:59 PM

I am still working on the Mexican list but this is what I have so far:

Samy Tamouro Dec. 13, 2023 Cancun Mexico
Moreno Gallo Nov.10,2013 killed Mexico
Michael Cudmore Mar. 4 2018 killedMexico
Daniel Ranieri Mar. 4 2018. Ranieri’s body was found bound in a ditch in Cancun
Joe Catroppa sept .27,2020 killed in Mexico linked to Musitano
Giuseppe Bugge Aug 17,2018 HA associate killed in Mexico
Gordon Douglas Kendall sept. 27,2009 killed in Puerto Vallarta,Mexico
& Jeffrey Ronald Ivans HA sept. 27, 2009 killed in Puerto Vallarta,Mexico
Thomas Gisby April 29,2012 A high-ranking gangster from B.C. was gunned down in Mexico, at Starbucks in the tourist town of Nuevo Vallarta, Mexico.
Jodh Singh Manj Dec.6,2018 was gunned down after leaving a gym in a commercial complex in the Mexico City . member of the United Nations gang
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/14/23 11:04 PM

https://www.borderlandbeat.com/2023/12/quebec-hells-angels-connected-drug.html

WARNING GRAPHIC IMAGES

Quebec Hells Angels Connected Drug Trafficker Killed in Cancun Gym
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/15/23 01:49 AM

Damn he was actually on a machine and they drilled him eek
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/15/23 08:24 AM

Originally Posted by Ciment
Samy Tamouro violated two cardinal rules

1- Avoid the gym
2- Never exile to Mexico (they are doing hits in Mexico as well)



Samy first fled to Dominican Republic, where people also have been killed.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/17/23 04:56 AM

I read Frédérik Silva would have provided information about more than 30 murders.
Posted By: Liggio

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/17/23 10:37 AM

Yes he could probably solve a lot of mysteries.
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/17/23 06:43 PM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...s-quebecois-en-attente-d-accusations.php

this article was posted in feb 2023 and most on here saw it. im not sure as to which group these 3 young canadians belong to if any. could be that they are an independent trafficking group. what i find a little interesting is the reference to the alleged financier of these cocaine exports...AKA VICTOR. a common name yes, a random name chosen to disguise real name possible. victor however is also a name used by vittorio mirarchi in the past when registering legal companies. likely nothing but the ref to victor has always caught my eye.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/17/23 09:08 PM

Victor is indeed rare Vito. It's not that common I knew one Victor in my life.
Posted By: TheGhost

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/18/23 08:34 PM

penso che il nome di nascita di vito rizzuto è victor? ecco un altro victor che era arrestato in un investigazione criminale finanziare con i bikers. anche lui era una parte della palestra UFC. deve odiare gli italiani anche

vito rizzuto real name is victor? one different victor who is at a gym ufc and has business with bikers.

un cecchino dell'urss forse ha sparato a rizzuto sr. uno scherzo lol buona natale a tutti

maybe other victor pulled trigger on nicolo sr! christmas fun for all

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...-georges-st-pierre-arrested-in-argentina
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/18/23 08:57 PM

La police diffuse les images d’un véhicule suspect
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...use-les-images-d-un-vehicule-suspect.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/18/23 09:02 PM

^^^^
Montreal police seek vehicle tied to hit on Mafia leader Francesco Del Balso
https://montrealgazette.com/news/cr...-hit-on-mafia-leader-francesco-del-balso
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/18/23 09:14 PM

^^^^
Le véhicule ayant servi au meurtrier du mafieux Francesco Del Balso activement recherché
https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...francesco-del-balso-activement-recherche
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/19/23 07:35 AM

Mob violence in Montreal to continue in 2024, Mafia expert predicts

https://montreal.citynews.ca/2023/12/18/mob-violence-montreal-2024/
Posted By: Liggio

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/19/23 08:11 AM

I think it's so cringe when they call loanshark customers "victims," gimme a break.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/21/23 11:01 PM

Dernier adieu au caïd Samy Tamouro, assassiné au Mexique
https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2023/12/21/dernier-adieu-au-caid-samy-tamouro-assassine-au-mexique
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/23/23 02:07 PM

They arrest the alleged murderers of Samy Tamouro. These are Luis Felipe “N” and Juan Pablo “N” .

[Linked Image]
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/28/23 04:33 AM

Un homme atteint par balle dans l’arrondissement de Saint-Laurent
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...ns-l-arrondissement-de-saint-laurent.php

Un homme criblé de balles à Montréal
https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2023/12/27/un-homme-crible-de-balles-a-montreal
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/28/23 02:33 PM

https://www.pressreader.com/

an old article about sabino, being part of salvatore scoppa clan.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/28/23 11:12 PM

Originally Posted by VitoCahill
https://www.pressreader.com/

an old article about sabino, being part of salvatore scoppa clan.


I can't read the article was he the guy who got shot?
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/29/23 12:12 PM

yes, sorry about bad article. the same sabino arrested 2012 with salvatore scoppa and others.
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/29/23 12:14 PM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...ses-presumes-complices-comparaissent.php

if this translates gives the same details as pressreader article.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/30/23 10:38 AM

https://www.borderlandbeat.com/2023/12/samy-tamouros-wife-commits-suicide-in.html


A Colombian woman named Daniela, believed to be the wife or partner of the recently slain Canadian drug trafficker, Samy Tamouro; was found dead hanging in a Cancun apartment.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/30/23 06:40 PM

Damn she was fine, the link also mentions this could be cartel related with the hit on Samy
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/30/23 08:13 PM

https://www.infobae.com/mexico/2023...sesinado-dias-antes-en-un-gym-de-cancun/

Wife of gangster Samy Tamouro, murdered days before in a gym in Cancun, found dead
Posted By: Liggio

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 12/31/23 11:37 PM

Can't believe the suave, slick-suited Mafiosi up there are just going to sit back and watch some hairy, unkempt, drunken bikers take over everything, but it seems like that's exactly what's happening.
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/01/24 12:42 PM

happy new year all. liggio your description may be a little dated as most high level HA in canada rock the same suits as the italians, hardly ride their harleys and go around the city in suvs. all wardrobe aside i dont think the italians are letting anyone do anything. there has been major hits on each side in this war and unless i've missed something nothing is settled yet or even leaning one way or another.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/01/24 01:52 PM

Yep those french bikers are different from your typical bikers most guys who get killed are also NOT members but associate with the Hells Angels.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/02/24 06:41 PM

Originally Posted by VitoCahill
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...ses-presumes-complices-comparaissent.php

if this translates gives the same details as pressreader article.


Thanks. Interesting they were still dealing dope in the 2010s lol.


Tiago Correia-Sabino. During the 2010s, Correia-Sabina was considered a heroin trafficker and close to Andrew Scoppa, a clan leader of the Calabrian mafia from Montreal, murdered outside a fitness center in October 2019.
Posted By: Liggio

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/02/24 07:48 PM

Oh shit well I guess,my ideas of bikers up there is stereotypical.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/02/24 09:51 PM

Organized crime is disorganized
Le crime organisé se désorganise - Entrevue

TVA NEWS
Monday, January 1, 2024 09:58

UPDATE Monday, January 1, 2024 09:58

Even if a drop in gun violence was observed in Quebec in 2023, several major events punctuated this year which was almost as bloody as the previous one.


“A year of great violence”

This year has been “a year of great violence,” according to Roger Ferland, former investigator with the Quebec City Police Service (SPVQ).

The expert believes that the Montreal City Police Service (SPVM) has managed to complete several long-term cases in major interventions.

“These are choices that come from politics,” believes the former investigator.

Organized crime is disorganized

The new generation entering the ranks of organized crime has shaken up the way things are done, believes Mr. Ferland.

“Organized crime has offered its authority for years in a certain hierarchical order, but new trends are being observed. Young people with a new mentality decided that they no longer respected that and that led to excesses,” he explains.

“There is a law of physics that exists: when [there is] a force, we must oppose [it] an equal or sufficient resistance. [...] It is not true that it is time that will resolve things. We will have to take powerful actions,” he specifies.

According to him, mental health issues are part of the new reality with which police officers must deal.

He also calls for focusing on prevention among young people.

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2024/01/01/le-crime-organise-se-desorganise
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/02/24 11:16 PM

Who knows how many more murder plots police have disturbed/wrecked.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/03/24 12:29 AM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Organized crime is disorganized
Le crime organisé se désorganise - Entrevue

TVA NEWS
Monday, January 1, 2024 09:58

UPDATE Monday, January 1, 2024 09:58

Even if a drop in gun violence was observed in Quebec in 2023, several major events punctuated this year which was almost as bloody as the previous one.


“A year of great violence”

This year has been “a year of great violence,” according to Roger Ferland, former investigator with the Quebec City Police Service (SPVQ).

The expert believes that the Montreal City Police Service (SPVM) has managed to complete several long-term cases in major interventions.

“These are choices that come from politics,” believes the former investigator.

Organized crime is disorganized

The new generation entering the ranks of organized crime has shaken up the way things are done, believes Mr. Ferland.

“Organized crime has offered its authority for years in a certain hierarchical order, but new trends are being observed. Young people with a new mentality decided that they no longer respected that and that led to excesses,” he explains.

“There is a law of physics that exists: when [there is] a force, we must oppose [it] an equal or sufficient resistance. [...] It is not true that it is time that will resolve things. We will have to take powerful actions,” he specifies.

According to him, mental health issues are part of the new reality with which police officers must deal.

He also calls for focusing on prevention among young people.

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2024/01/01/le-crime-organise-se-desorganise


The things with this article make it seem like the guy who are against the HAs are really youngs. But sure you got guys in the their twenties, bit you also got guys in the mid to end of their thirties.

And many of those gangs members or independents know the new generation of full patch HA. Since many are from the same neighborhoods or school. So the thing in Quebec city is not only some youngins, but young adults.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/04/24 04:06 PM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-attend-a-une-annee-2024-mouvementee.php

Montreal organized crime Police expect eventful 2024

Montreal organized crime Police expect eventful 2024

War between mafia and Hells Angels for control of illegal sports betting, murder of Gregory Woolley, revolt of independent drug traffickers in eastern Quebec and major investigation surrounding the shocking revelations of a former hitman who makes important actors of the very nervous criminal world... If 2023 was eventful, 2024 could be just as eventful, if not more.

High-level organized crime is destabilized and weakened. And in this environment, when there is a smell of blood, there are sharks or piranhas who will try to take a stand,” says Commander Francis Renaud, of the Organized Crime Division of the Police Department of the City of Montreal (SPVM).
On March 15, Leonardo Rizzuto, youngest son of former mafia godfather Vito Rizzuto, was shot and injured in Laval. We have to go back to 2009 and 2016, when the Sicilian clan was facing real putsch attempts, to find direct attacks against the family which has reigned over the Montreal mafia for more than 40 years.

In Beauce and Hérouxville, opponents of the Hells Angels have been attacking local players in the international biker group and their subordinate clubs for several weeks.

It would have been unthinkable, barely a year ago, for independent traffickers to dare attack the Hells Angels, considered by the police to be the most powerful criminal organization in Quebec, and even in Canada.
“What we are currently seeing is that various Montreal organized crime cells have split and lost influence and strength. This makes the community wonder what is going on and ask themselves: “Is there a pilot on the plane or is the cockpit empty at the moment?” ", illustrates Commander Francis Renaud, according to whom the current situation is reminiscent of those of 2009-2010 and 2016, when rebel clans of the mafia and that of the Scoppa brothers attacked the Sicilians, who emerged victorious but weakened from these aborted putsches.

Climate of confrontation

Since the natural death of Vito Rizzuto in 2013, Montreal organized crime was led by an alliance between the mafia and Hells Angels, of which gang leader Gregory Woolley was the kingpin.

A lull reigned for several years, but the alliance dissolved sometime in 2022, when a conflict erupted between the Rizzuto clan and the Montreal Hells Angels for control of the lucrative illegal sports betting, held for decades by the Sicilian clan of the Montreal mafia.

It is in this context that Leonardo Rizzuto was injured in March and that Claudia Iacono – by mistake – and Francesco Del Balso were assassinated in May and June, probably in retaliation for the attack against the son of the late godfather.
There are certain partnerships that existed for a long time and which no longer exist today. We had a certain stability which seems to have evaporated and that will lead to a race for leadership or the coronation of an organization which will take over another. This is what we can see now.

Francis Renaud, commander of the SPVM organized crime division
“I don't think we're close to seeing alliances. I think more that we are in confrontation. There are people who seem to want to take the plunge and seize an opportunity, because there are lucrative positions that seem to want to open up. But it may not be easy to seize these places,” the commander continues.
Big shoes to fill

According to our information, representatives of criminal groups held meetings at the end of 2023, the reasons for which are unknown. Either they forge alliances, or they try to get along, keeping in mind that conflicts are never good for business, one might think.
Francis Renaud believes that the community will have to find a new Gregory Woolley, after the latter's assassination in Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu in November, to serve as a link between the groups.

“Woolley was a big guy. He played a certain role in criminal society. He was a liaison officer for all criminal organizations. There will have to be someone who plays this role, otherwise certain organizations will not talk to each other and that will bring violence and insecurity to the community,” says Mr. Renaud.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/04/24 04:13 PM

Also the youtube channel the Original Gangster podcast got some crazy infos about the crime scene of Montreal.
What are ya’ll think about those videos?

Hells Angels take out Gregory Woolley
https://youtu.be/T6gzJTCs7jA?si=MhOeAne2rLNqGe4o

Martin Robert the most powerful biker boss in Canada and his ambitions
https://youtu.be/SAJCQAwxW_s?si=ZjEIlQ2-FJzNG25B

The raids against the Rizzuto’s, the HA and the gangs
https://youtu.be/g9Fyz2IGVwI?si=dyJjdzuBrRwG3Av6

Some italians that could ally themself with Martin Robert against the Rizzutos
https://youtu.be/LYaH-aU_Xkk?si=PgsCf9Q5AHBDtWU3

Race Lariviere a Montreal HA
https://youtu.be/2vslEJalVUE?si=KkSJdJXaT6-Ul5ei

Martin Robert getting support from the Canada and USA hells angels to push the Rizzuto’s
https://youtu.be/wLNWa8wp1pA?si=xOJD5jWY-dBHmOPi

What are ya’ll taught about each of those videos?

Do ya’ll think that the Canadian and american hells angels are all on the same board to go against the Rizzuto’s ?
And if it is the case, do ya’ll think the Rizzuto’s got a chance ?
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/04/24 06:20 PM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-revoquee-pour-un-ancien-de-la-mafia.php

an interesting development. i thought sucapane had 'retired'. he retired and i'm the new lefty out of the pen for the bluejays. i would be curious to know who he was meeting may reveal sucapanes current loyalty or alliances.
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/04/24 06:25 PM

blackmobs until the last rizzuto is in the ground i will never count them out. the strength and respect that they and their allies have is unrivaled in 21st century mafia families. to still be top dog in montreal amongst mafia clans after every murder, attempted murder, arson and arrests is astonishing really. just another day in the milieu i guess.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/04/24 06:35 PM

Originally Posted by VitoCahill
blackmobs until the last rizzuto is in the ground i will never count them out. the strength and respect that they and their allies have is unrivaled in 21st century mafia families. to still be top dog in montreal amongst mafia clans after every murder, attempted murder, arson and arrests is astonishing really. just another day in the milieu i guess.


True to that, every time we think the Rizzuto are over just to realize they are stronger than we taught.
But this time, they are going against another organization, its not intern mafia war.
The rizzuto need many allies in this war.
Posted By: Mafia101

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/04/24 11:45 PM

Originally Posted by Blackmobs
Also the youtube channel the Original Gangster podcast got some crazy infos about the crime scene of Montreal.
What are ya’ll think about those videos?

Hells Angels take out Gregory Woolley
https://youtu.be/T6gzJTCs7jA?si=MhOeAne2rLNqGe4o

Martin Robert the most powerful biker boss in Canada and his ambitions
https://youtu.be/SAJCQAwxW_s?si=ZjEIlQ2-FJzNG25B

The raids against the Rizzuto’s, the HA and the gangs
https://youtu.be/g9Fyz2IGVwI?si=dyJjdzuBrRwG3Av6

Some italians that could ally themself with Martin Robert against the Rizzutos
https://youtu.be/LYaH-aU_Xkk?si=PgsCf9Q5AHBDtWU3

Race Lariviere a Montreal HA
https://youtu.be/2vslEJalVUE?si=KkSJdJXaT6-Ul5ei

Martin Robert getting support from the Canada and USA hells angels to push the Rizzuto’s
https://youtu.be/wLNWa8wp1pA?si=xOJD5jWY-dBHmOPi

What are ya’ll taught about each of those videos?

Do ya’ll think that the Canadian and american hells angels are all on the same board to go against the Rizzuto’s ?
And if it is the case, do ya’ll think the Rizzuto’s got a chance ?


Scott Burnstein is the greatest crime reporter ever having several high level criminal and police source for every single mafia family biker club and each chapter and his reach is international lol it's only a matter of time before he gets sued for the libelous claims that he makes up. I don't know how anyone takes him seriously what little credibility he had has been destroyed in the last year alone after all the crazy claims mistakes and times he's been caught lying.

Originally Posted by VitoCahill
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-revoquee-pour-un-ancien-de-la-mafia.php

an interesting development. i thought sucapane had 'retired'. he retired and i'm the new lefty out of the pen for the bluejays. i would be curious to know who he was meeting may reveal sucapanes current loyalty or alliances.


Since his release he's been linked to Vittorio Mirarchi's cell the few times his name has come up.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/04/24 11:47 PM

Originally Posted by Blackmobs
Also the youtube channel the Original Gangster podcast got some crazy infos about the crime scene of Montreal.
What are ya’ll think about those videos?

Hells Angels take out Gregory Woolley
https://youtu.be/T6gzJTCs7jA?si=MhOeAne2rLNqGe4o

Martin Robert the most powerful biker boss in Canada and his ambitions
https://youtu.be/SAJCQAwxW_s?si=ZjEIlQ2-FJzNG25B

The raids against the Rizzuto’s, the HA and the gangs
https://youtu.be/g9Fyz2IGVwI?si=dyJjdzuBrRwG3Av6

Some italians that could ally themself with Martin Robert against the Rizzutos
https://youtu.be/LYaH-aU_Xkk?si=PgsCf9Q5AHBDtWU3

Race Lariviere a Montreal HA
https://youtu.be/2vslEJalVUE?si=KkSJdJXaT6-Ul5ei

Martin Robert getting support from the Canada and USA hells angels to push the Rizzuto’s
https://youtu.be/wLNWa8wp1pA?si=xOJD5jWY-dBHmOPi

What are ya’ll taught about each of those videos?

Do ya’ll think that the Canadian and american hells angels are all on the same board to go against the Rizzuto’s ?
And if it is the case, do ya’ll think the Rizzuto’s got a chance ?


So basically what Scot Burnstein is stating in the videos based on rumors he heard, is that HA want to overthrow the Rizzuto's and become the supreme criminal organization of not only Quebec but Canada. These rumors also say HA may have been behind the hits on Rizzuto,Wooley, Tomouro and Del Balso. He goes on stating that Barberio would have joined forces with HA had Del Balso succeeded in the attempted murder of Rizzuto. Furthermore, he states that the fate of the Rizzuto organization may depend on three individulals Barberio, Pietrantonio and Focarazzo and that Quebec HA have the blessing of Ontario HA.
These are very bold statements and paints a very grim view of the Rizzuto organization. The Rizzzuto 's have proven to be resilient , their deep pockets have helped in the past to fight off these wars. The big question is how long can they last ? If what Scott Burnstein says is true and I underscore if, it doesn't look good for the Rizzuto's.


Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/05/24 03:13 AM

i did not watch any of the vids. not because they are by burnstein just not my thing. if i'm watching youtube it has to be old allman bros feat brother duane or gg allin just for a goof. back to mtl, unless i missed something the HA are already and have been for awhile the most powerful crime group in quebec and all of canada. clearly they dont yet have total control of montreal and laval and more specifically ' THE BOOK'. i'm curious as well in the more recent lapresse and jdm articles concerning this war there is a ref to something happening in 2022 that brought all this on. the 2 sides had a falling out over the book/gambling in 2022. i dont think it was the 1st attempt on del balso in november had to have been something else earlier. easy guess is over money. martin robert appears to have invested money into the book. perhaps he thought he was not getting his share? perhaps del balso got in his ear about taking full control of all gambling? none the less 2022 was an interesting year.
Posted By: Liggio

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/05/24 03:52 AM

I thought it was said that the Hells Angels killed Del Balso to get points with the Rizzutos after he tried to kill Leonardo Rizzuto?
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/05/24 04:27 AM

Originally Posted by Blackmobs
Originally Posted by VitoCahill
blackmobs until the last rizzuto is in the ground i will never count them out. the strength and respect that they and their allies have is unrivaled in 21st century mafia families. to still be top dog in montreal amongst mafia clans after every murder, attempted murder, arson and arrests is astonishing really. just another day in the milieu i guess.


True to that, every time we think the Rizzuto are over just to realize they are stronger than we taught.
But this time, they are going against another organization, its not intern mafia war.
The rizzuto need many allies in this war.


It's difficult to say how this goes, I'm sure the 81 has learned from the brutal Quebec Biker War, that killed 162 people in 8 years.
Posted By: TheGhost

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/05/24 07:30 AM

se questo è vero poi chi sono gli altri italiani? quando finiscono rizzuto è l'ontario prossimo. tutti italiani devono essere temore se i bikers hanno un piano per tutto e provano uccidere rizzuto.

if true all Italians are in danger spot not just rizzuto. ontario is next? musitano gone by bikers of hamilton?
Posted By: Liggio

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/05/24 11:25 AM

The Italians need someone like Toto Riina to deal with these fucks.
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/05/24 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by Blackmobs
Originally Posted by VitoCahill
blackmobs until the last rizzuto is in the ground i will never count them out. the strength and respect that they and their allies have is unrivaled in 21st century mafia families. to still be top dog in montreal amongst mafia clans after every murder, attempted murder, arson and arrests is astonishing really. just another day in the milieu i guess.


True to that, every time we think the Rizzuto are over just to realize they are stronger than we taught.
But this time, they are going against another organization, its not intern mafia war.
The rizzuto need many allies in this war.



I try to view them as a kind of hybrid between Feudalism, and a family owned corporation. It's just that the fiefdoms are "territories" like drug and gambling spots, whereas the business of the "corporation" are rackets, and various legal interest consolidated into a single Consortium.

Until you wipe out the family, they will always exist. There's a reason Riina wanted ALL the Inzerillos dead.

Also, there's a reason the Italian authorities refer to this type of structure as a " Criminal holding". The heirs of Riccobono in Sicily have something similar....

Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/06/24 05:46 AM

Originally Posted by Liggio
Oh shit well I guess,my ideas of bikers up there is stereotypical.


There are also many types of motorcycle clubs "bikers" is a general term and says very little about a person.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/06/24 06:02 AM

Originally Posted by Blackmobs
Also the youtube channel the Original Gangster podcast got some crazy infos about the crime scene of Montreal.
What are ya’ll think about those videos?

Hells Angels take out Gregory Woolley
https://youtu.be/T6gzJTCs7jA?si=MhOeAne2rLNqGe4o

Martin Robert the most powerful biker boss in Canada and his ambitions
https://youtu.be/SAJCQAwxW_s?si=ZjEIlQ2-FJzNG25B

The raids against the Rizzuto’s, the HA and the gangs
https://youtu.be/g9Fyz2IGVwI?si=dyJjdzuBrRwG3Av6

Some italians that could ally themself with Martin Robert against the Rizzutos
https://youtu.be/LYaH-aU_Xkk?si=PgsCf9Q5AHBDtWU3

Race Lariviere a Montreal HA
https://youtu.be/2vslEJalVUE?si=KkSJdJXaT6-Ul5ei

Martin Robert getting support from the Canada and USA hells angels to push the Rizzuto’s
https://youtu.be/wLNWa8wp1pA?si=xOJD5jWY-dBHmOPi

What are ya’ll taught about each of those videos?

Do ya’ll think that the Canadian and american hells angels are all on the same board to go against the Rizzuto’s ?
And if it is the case, do ya’ll think the Rizzuto’s got a chance ?


No idea who his sources are, but thanks for posting.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/07/24 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by Blackmobs
Originally Posted by VitoCahill
blackmobs until the last rizzuto is in the ground i will never count them out. the strength and respect that they and their allies have is unrivaled in 21st century mafia families. to still be top dog in montreal amongst mafia clans after every murder, attempted murder, arson and arrests is astonishing really. just another day in the milieu i guess.


True to that, every time we think the Rizzuto are over just to realize they are stronger than we taught.
But this time, they are going against another organization, its not intern mafia war.
The rizzuto need many allies in this war.


Very astute point Blackmobs. Maybe they should ask themselves the question why ? Why are they losing allies rather than gaining.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/07/24 09:44 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment
Originally Posted by Blackmobs
Originally Posted by VitoCahill
blackmobs until the last rizzuto is in the ground i will never count them out. the strength and respect that they and their allies have is unrivaled in 21st century mafia families. to still be top dog in montreal amongst mafia clans after every murder, attempted murder, arson and arrests is astonishing really. just another day in the milieu i guess.


True to that, every time we think the Rizzuto are over just to realize they are stronger than we taught.
But this time, they are going against another organization, its not intern mafia war.
The rizzuto need many allies in this war.


Very astute point Blackmobs. Maybe they should ask themselves the question why ? Why are they losing allies rather than gaining.


To stay at the top, you must make enemies I guess.

And if those who are moving against the rizzuto’s wins… well they will make some new enemies also
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/08/24 09:08 AM

A criminal organization leader will always have enemies that is not in dispute. What is in question is the effectiveness of a leader in maintaining old alliances , seeking news ones and keeping control.
Posted By: TheGhost

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/08/24 01:34 PM

in italia sappiamo che i nemici dei tutti criminali sono la politzia ma forse un po dei criminali in canada non sanno questo fatto altrimenti l'affari è sempre prima

troppo strano a capire lol anche è vero che fratelli violi la polizia ha fatto qualcosa illegal durante l'investigazione

in italia they know that police are enemies first, why violis out of carcere early?politics and law are the criminals not said
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/08/24 06:32 PM

Originally Posted by VitoCahill
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-revoquee-pour-un-ancien-de-la-mafia.php

an interesting development. i thought sucapane had 'retired'. he retired and i'm the new lefty out of the pen for the bluejays. i would be curious to know who he was meeting may reveal sucapanes current loyalty or alliances.

Former leader of Montreal Mafia clan has parole revoked
https://montrealgazette.com/news/former-leader-of-montreal-mafia-clan-has-parole-revoked
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/08/24 07:31 PM

Sucapane met with either Franco or Pasquale Lopez with it sounds like Serafino Olivero also present. May seem like nothing and likely was, however with tensions as they are lately in MTL the cops are likely just getting those off the street and out of way any way they can. Somehow Canada's weak justice system let's these guys out very early all the time yet appears to have harsh and even trivial parole violations.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/08/24 11:40 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Originally Posted by VitoCahill
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-revoquee-pour-un-ancien-de-la-mafia.php

an interesting development. i thought sucapane had 'retired'. he retired and i'm the new lefty out of the pen for the bluejays. i would be curious to know who he was meeting may reveal sucapanes current loyalty or alliances.

Former leader of Montreal Mafia clan has parole revoked
https://montrealgazette.com/news/former-leader-of-montreal-mafia-clan-has-parole-revoked


Interesting article, at least it reveals Sucapane standing with this other Calabrian clan. It makes you question new alliances between clans, did they fall out of favor with the Rizzuto's or did they switch sides on their own ?
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/09/24 12:33 AM

At this point after some deep digging where and how I can, I wouldn't even consider the olivero-lopez a clan. 3 members that we know of, oliverio, and the twins Franco and Pasquale. Which if we believe sucapane he didn't consider whichever twin he met with to be involved in the mafia as of 2023. Aside from there uncle who else do we include? Who are they allied with? Because of their alleged territory you would think pizzi and Barberio. The 3 nephews, Giuseppe now deceased were busted in 2015 in magot mastiff case and charges were dropped. There arrest turned into a nothing burger even with the aid of an informant. Plus the snow they were slinging was trash apparently making me think we are not dealing with the top brass here. Onto there uncle Serafino he has only been referenced as involved in money laundering. He does have interests in bars and cafes in MTL area and is involved with Bitcoin machines likely as a means to launder money. With that being said someone or group as yet unknown wants them gone. Oliverio was shot back in 2021 and of course Giuseppe's murder sept 2023. But alas as usual said group has yet to reveal itself.
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/09/24 12:39 AM

And as for sucapane he was under Arcadi circa 2006 like most everyone else. Became devitos #2 at some point up until his 2013 death as the article said. I do remember reading an article way back about his possible switch to the Rizzuto camp at some point. Now I have heard he's with mirarchi or the oliverio-lopez. So who knows, in MTL I'll wait until an arrest telling me who he's with. Evidence at this point tells us nothing really. The 2 parole violations seem so benign. The other violation was that he went into a saq depot to get some booze. My god what an animal hide yer kids put out an apb for an Italian with a bottle of red under his arm.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/09/24 02:10 AM

The French media refers to them as a clan. We also know from past articles that they had links to both the Montreal mafia and HA.
They operated for years under the radar and it was the Magot Mastiff bust that got them more attention. Followed by an attempt on their uncle,the bad batch of cocaine and later the murder of one of the brothers.
We now know from this article, that Sucapane has a speaking relationship with the said clan, which makes it more interesting given the fact that Sucapane was a member of the group that wanted to overthrow the Rizzuto's.
And I agree there hasn't been as much media attention on them as opposed to other clans.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/09/24 09:27 PM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...es-libere-sous-de-severes-conditions.php

One of the convicts released under harsh conditions
Stanley Minuty, convicted of plotting the murder of Gaetan Gosselin, great friend and confidant of boss Raynald Desjardins, has just been automatically released after serving two thirds of his sentence.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/10/24 01:08 AM

^^^^
Gang member involved in murder of Mob boss associate to be released
https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...der-of-mob-boss-associate-to-be-released
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/10/24 10:44 PM

i believe it is now 3 members of the gosselin and scuderi hit team to be released lately. kevin tate, edrick antoine and the above stanley minuty. 3 names to keep track of only because of how close desjardins and gosselin were. if desjardins is still involved in the milieu it would be telling if either of these 3 face violence in 2024. no revenge would be forthcoming from the devito side as that clan no longer exists. man canadas justice system is beyond schizophrenic. throw a guy back in jail for digging up and using a phone but let 3 guys out convicted of 2 murders????
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/11/24 05:14 AM

Originally Posted by VitoCahill
i believe it is now 3 members of the gosselin and scuderi hit team to be released lately. kevin tate, edrick antoine and the above stanley minuty. 3 names to keep track of only because of how close desjardins and gosselin were. if desjardins is still involved in the milieu it would be telling if either of these 3 face violence in 2024. no revenge would be forthcoming from the devito side as that clan no longer exists. man canadas justice system is beyond schizophrenic. throw a guy back in jail for digging up and using a phone but let 3 guys out convicted of 2 murders????


We dutch always complain about how soft/tolerant the Netherlands is on crime, but Canada takes the cake.
Posted By: Mafia101

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/11/24 04:27 PM

As a reminder it was conspiracy to commit murder not murder.
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/11/24 05:43 PM

lenient none the less compared to u.s.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/11/24 08:42 PM

Amende et permis d'alcool suspendu pour le bar Chez Parée
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...cool-suspendu-pour-le-bar-chez-paree.php
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/11/24 11:18 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Amende et permis d'alcool suspendu pour le bar Chez Parée
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...cool-suspendu-pour-le-bar-chez-paree.php


https://chezparee.ca/fr/photos/

Chez Paree : No.1 Gentlemen' s Club in Montreal

Why would they want to suspend their license ? wink

Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/12/24 12:44 PM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...ions-dans-une-enquete-sans-precedent.php

Ten arrests in an unprecedented investigation
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/12/24 01:03 PM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...du-bar-chez-paree-suspendu-deux-semaines

The alcohol license of the bar Chez Parée suspended for two weeks

A related article in March 2023

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2023/03/06/fusillade-devant-un-bar-du-centre-ville-de-montreal

Shooting outside a bar in downtown Montreal
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/12/24 07:41 PM

https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/police-...ges-of-selling-cannabis-online-1.4820199

this could be part of the same bust. the la presse article, very thorough as always states proj. postcure began in feb 2020. these arrests took place around then with exact same m.o.

the overall health canada cannabis debacle is a mess. i know a few friends who worked in it in ontario and the amounts they 'prescribe' are outrageous.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/14/24 11:55 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Amende et permis d'alcool suspendu pour le bar Chez Parée
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...cool-suspendu-pour-le-bar-chez-paree.php


Funny since one of the owner was an ex-cop.
Well don’t know if he’s still one of the owners.
Posted By: Liggio

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/16/24 05:05 PM

Do you think that the Del Balso hit was revenge for his attempted hit on Leonardo Rizzuto?
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/16/24 06:07 PM

at this point yes. with the revelation coming out at end of 2023 that the rizzuto-sollecito clan are in direct conflict with the robert/plouffe faction of the HA mtl chapter over control of the book. del balso it is said wanted a bigger piece of the book and thought it was owed to him after doing his time in jail. everything seemed civil amongst the rizzuto-sollecito clan with del balso up until somepoint in 2022 according to french media reporting. this conflict is about money, alot of money so perhaps del balso started taking more than his share or not kicking up anything, taking customers from other bookies or had started a rival sportsbook. with the arrival of rob barletta to montreal at some point in 2021 and patching into the mtl chapter you can see the pieces moving. with barletta, del balso, gilles lambert and the ability to setup or already having active servers in place on native reserves, say kanesatake, where martin roberts mother-in-law sharon simon still holds sway it is possible there was a rival book started. then the attempt on leonardo rizzuto, a co-leader of the r-s clan and possibly the one more active with sollecito very sick with cancer. by attempting to take him out would have been huge for the other side and likely would have allowed the robert/plouffe faction to bargain for a bigger piece of the book. the hitman, kevin rochebrun in the march 2023 attempt on rizzuto was seen at del balsos funeral for F sakes, and was involved although never charged in an attempt on marco pizzi, another member of the r-s clan in2016. del balso had been shot at in nov 2022, a mistaken attempt on an innocent bystander who lokked like him in jan 2023. so it looks like the r-s were after him as well. things seem quiet in the milieu lately at least amongst these 2 warring sides, perhaps the murder of del balso was enough to back the robert/plouffe faction off. they are also under pressure from police on several fronts related to a large scale drug investigation. i also think if the r-s were to make an attempt on a full patch angel that would set off this conflict to another level.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/18/24 05:32 AM

I’d say there’s no doubt it’s because of Rizzuto.

Del Balso was already attempting to try and take things over after Vito went away (according to Scoppa) then he attempts to take the book. Not smart and it got him killed
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/25/24 10:16 AM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...n-tueur-a-gages-devenu-delateur#cxrecs_s

the plot thickens.
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/25/24 09:42 PM

to the above article and the narrative of a house cleaning amongst those once close and working with frederick silva, which i believe is a valid one, the only other person once deemed close to silva not being shot at is girard anglade. he is currently imprisoned since 2020 for an attempted murder on one jean guy bourgoin an associate and possible fp HA close to jean richard lariviere of the HA mtl chapter. the shooting took place in 2018, i am not sure though if it was a planned hit or a spur of the moment shooting over an argument? matters only a little i suppose.
Posted By: vito_andolini

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/25/24 11:50 PM

Keeping in mind the video was recorded in 2015, does anyone have any reference as to why the cop in the video makes specific reference to HA's Normand (Casper) Ouimet not being happy with Woolley because he "treated him like clown?" When did this happen?

Is it a fact that later in 2023, Casper was released on parole and Woolley is now dead? Did I miss something?
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/26/24 06:59 AM

Originally Posted by dixiemafia
I’d say there’s no doubt it’s because of Rizzuto.

Del Balso was already attempting to try and take things over after Vito went away (according to Scoppa) then he attempts to take the book. Not smart and it got him killed


WE must see the hit on Leo Rizzuto in a historic perspective struggles for control has been going on in Eastern Canada since the 60s.
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/26/24 11:59 AM

vito andolini there had been references to a conflict between woolley and casper ouimet/patrick lock, both of the trois rivieres chapter. lock was the target of an attempted murder/shooting back in 2022 at the cafe sorrento, the same where piero arena was in attendance. woolley would have been on the street at this time, ouimet would not as he was only released late 2023. all to say there appears to have been a conflict between these groups as well.

woolley murder theories, for those keeping track at home now;
1. related to war b/ MAFIA vs. HA over 'the book'
2. conflict w/ ouimet/lock
3. closeness to frederick silva, knew too much.

those appear to be 3 most likely as of now.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/27/24 02:17 AM



Can anyone translate? I can’t copy anything from that article to translate and don’t understand anything in the video
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/27/24 09:48 AM

sorry dixie, the just of the article is the police believe that the reason for woolleys 2023 murder was related to his connections to cooperating hitman frederick silva. it refers to woolley as being the main sponsor for murders performed by silva. because of this closeness the police believe woolley was taken out internally. however the article does not state which group was behind it. as woolley was at the time close to the rizzuto-sollecito clan they could be behind it. but woolley also was close to HA and street gangs so i imagine any group could have ordered it. with that being said despite reports that because of his imprisonment into the 2020's woolley had lost some power in the milieu this hit would only have come from the highest level of organized crime in mtl. this was not a gang beef related to rap videos as per many in the montreal gang scene, this was a professional and ruthless murder acted out in front of his wife and infant child in full view of the public.
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/27/24 09:51 AM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...rain-des-gangs--gregory-woolley#cxrecs_s

sorry if no translate again dixie.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/27/24 08:26 PM

Yea that site blocks me after the first paragraph roughly. Thanks for letting me know what it says, that’s the only thing I hate about being addicted to the Montreal story is the damn language barrier LOL

This would be really interesting if this came from Rizzuto/Sollecito. Seems like they held him in high regard, but of course if we can truly believe Scoppa that Sollecito is as much of a snake that he claimed he was (funny coming from a snake himself) then things could really get interesting but then again who is going to defend Woolley?
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/27/24 09:37 PM

good points dixie, very good. most recent articles mentioning woolley all state that after his release from magot/mastiff charges his stature had fallen and he was no longer part of any decision making group in mtl. one article at time of death stated woolley was involved in 'the book' but to what end we do not know. when it comes down to loyalty and protecting those close around them italians will stick together that is not in doubt. as per other murders in the milieu woolleys could have been beneficial on several levels to different groups.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/28/24 04:01 AM

Like Scoppa said, the book is truly cursed lol folks still dropping over control of it. M

I admit I haven’t read up much since Woolley fell though so I’m behind on the theories crazy
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/28/24 11:23 AM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2024/01/28/montreal--incendie-criminel-dans-saint-leonard

Montreal: arson in Saint-Léonard.
A commercial building was the target of an arson attack in Montreal in the Saint-Léonard borough during the night from Saturday to Sunday.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/28/24 11:29 AM

After further digging into this, the building of which the arson attack took place is a law firm that have handle high profile cases in the past.
I found this La Presse 2014 article to be quite interesting.

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...ssocie-dun-avocat-proche-de-la-mafia.php
Michel Bissonnet was the associate of a lawyer close to the mafia

Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/30/24 07:49 PM

U.S. seeks to extradite brother of two deceased Montreal Mafia members
https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...r-of-two-deceased-montreal-mafia-members

Trafic de stupéfiants aux États-Unis : un frère du clan mafieux Scoppa arrêté à Montréal
https://www.journaldequebec.com/202...du-clan-mafieux-scoppa-arrete-a-montreal

Un des frères Scoppa arrêté et menacé d’extradition aux États-Unis
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-menace-d-extradition-aux-etats-unis.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/30/24 08:15 PM

^^^^
The respective FBI and RCMP releases:

Federal Indictments Allege International Organized Crime Syndicate Imported and Exported Narcotics Across North America
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/fede...ed-crime-syndicate-imported-and-exported

$940,000 and 70 kg of cocaine seized thanks to successful collaboration between the RCMP and the FBI | Royal Canadian Mounted Police
https://www.grc-rcmp.gc.ca/en/news/...ssful-collaboration-the-rcmp-and-the-fbi
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/30/24 08:57 PM

roberto scoppa it turns out, isnt just dealing with illegal dumps on reserves. no mention as to which family/clan he was working for but we can rule out the rizzuto-sollecito. mirarchi? or an as yet unknown or lower key clan. no surprise of the involvement of indo-canadians they have been the driving force...at times literally on large scale imports into canada at the named border crossings. a staggering drug bust.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/30/24 09:44 PM

^^^^
Feds charge 19 in drug trafficking scheme across U.S., Mexico and Canada
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/drug-trafficking-charges-us-mexico-canada-justice-department/
Posted By: Mafia101

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/30/24 10:32 PM

Originally Posted by VitoCahill
roberto scoppa it turns out, isnt just dealing with illegal dumps on reserves. no mention as to which family/clan he was working for but we can rule out the rizzuto-sollecito. mirarchi? or an as yet unknown or lower key clan. no surprise of the involvement of indo-canadians they have been the driving force...at times literally on large scale imports into canada at the named border crossings. a staggering drug bust.


Doubt he was working with any clan. Maybe a few guys who associated with his brothers but I'm guessing this was in partnership with the Hells Angels.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/30/24 11:05 PM

On January 2019 Robert Scoppa traveled to Colombia with Martin Robert, they stayed at the same hotel in Cartagena, Colombia. His recycling company was on Mohawk territory Kanesatake.
If I were a betting man I would say he had HA connection. But it's a circumstantial theory.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/30/24 11:16 PM

It seems that whoever is against or out of favor with the Rizzuto's tend to gravitate towards Martin. I guess we can put him on the same list.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/30/24 11:24 PM

There is another Scoppa LOL..
Posted By: Giacalone

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/30/24 11:25 PM

Originally Posted by Hollander
There is another Scoppa LOL..


I was just gonna post that. This shit is getting too confusing lol
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/30/24 11:31 PM

He was the quiet brother who at first everybody thought he had nothing to do with crime.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/30/24 11:42 PM

https://nationalpost.com/pmn/news-p...s-for-involvement-in-drug-smuggling-ring

Five Canadians facing extradition to the U.S. for involvement in drug-smuggling ring
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/31/24 12:04 AM

Originally Posted by Giacalone
Originally Posted by Hollander
There is another Scoppa LOL..


I was just gonna post that. This shit is getting too confusing lol


From Séguin and Thibault’s 2022 book about Andrew Scoppa:

From the various hints he’d dropped about his financial situation, I’d surmised that in 2014, Andrew was worth approximately $30 million. I’d also gathered that his wealth continued to grow thanks to his main sources of income: money laundering through his ATM company and his waste management businesses with his brother Roberto.

https://www.evernote.com/shard/s229...E5ff3iDbxw6dDtqmKUl5_ndmTYPKQlgv_YheRyfA
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/31/24 12:47 AM

good catch ciment about the robert and scoppa meeting in mexico, i had forgot about that. most articles from 2019 do state that most criminals or groups in quebec gravitate towards either thre rizzuto-sollecito or HA/ martin robert so that makes sense. we will have to see when further info comes out of these indictments. the connections to the illegal dumpong on kanesatake reserve would also steer roberto scoppa to being allied with robert as that reserve is fully martin robert territory.
Posted By: Mafia101

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/31/24 01:00 AM

Colombia not Mexico Vito. One of the articles from today brought up the trip but added Colombo and/or France. Roberto Scoppa has been doing quite a bit of traveling with Martin Robert in recent years by the sound of the reports. Remember Martin Robert use to be a member of a chapter in France and is still in contact with his frères en France.
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/31/24 01:04 AM

Again my apologies, not intended to muddy the waters all. I feel all these Lyme drugs r rotting my brain. Or perhaps it's all the spirochete bacteria that there battling. Been a ruff couple weeks...again.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/31/24 01:33 AM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Originally Posted by Giacalone
Originally Posted by Hollander
There is another Scoppa LOL..


I was just gonna post that. This shit is getting too confusing lol


From Séguin and Thibault’s 2022 book about Andrew Scoppa:

From the various hints he’d dropped about his financial situation, I’d surmised that in 2014, Andrew was worth approximately $30 million. I’d also gathered that his wealth continued to grow thanks to his main sources of income: money laundering through his ATM company and his waste management businesses with his brother Roberto.

https://www.evernote.com/shard/s229...E5ff3iDbxw6dDtqmKUl5_ndmTYPKQlgv_YheRyfA




Roberto Scoppa was mentioned in the French-language media at least as far back as 2012:

https://www.evernote.com/shard/s229...NZOkhrwNE1p6x3n95ONCj9g7tKHywZTAKxoPHpog
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/31/24 02:30 AM

Originally Posted by VitoCahill
good catch ciment about the robert and scoppa meeting in mexico, i had forgot about that. most articles from 2019 do state that most criminals or groups in quebec gravitate towards either thre rizzuto-sollecito or HA/ martin robert so that makes sense. we will have to see when further info comes out of these indictments. the connections to the illegal dumpong on kanesatake reserve would also steer roberto scoppa to being allied with robert as that reserve is fully martin robert territory.



It can be forgiven saying Mexico, as this coke did come from or at least through Mexico. It is entirely possible he met with Mexicans in Colombia. The thing is the Mexicans are IN Canada. It's coming over land. It's possible Robert has the most reliable "open door" in Canada at the moment with the Indian border.
Maybe he had to shore up supply. But the language they used was significant. They said wholesaler, not importer.
Posted By: Malavita

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/31/24 07:36 AM

Originally Posted by Mafia101
Remember Martin Robert use to be a member of a chapter in France and is still in contact with his frères en France.


I didn't know that. That's very interesting. Do you havemore details about this ?



It makes me think of the 2018 case about a couple of French canadian guy, connected to the HA, who got caught in the carribean trying to ship 1.5 tons of cocaine to Quebec.

The whole operation was organized by the Hell's Angels and part of it took place in France with the Help of local HA guys.
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/31/24 12:12 PM

https://montrealgazette.com/news/ma...ne-from-n-s-to-montreal-gets-full-parole

is this the case you were thinking of malavita?
Posted By: Malavita

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 01/31/24 08:32 PM

It's not that case Vito.

This is the case : https://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2018/07...ors-dune-spectaculaire-saisie-de-cocaine (sorry it's in French)

There was a documentary a few month ago about it on French TV and they interviewed the guy who did it (he did his time in jail without giving any names) .

He doesn't give names but he tells the whole story as it is and talked about the time he prepared the boat in France. When he needed money while preparing the boat in France, he would call the Hell Angel's in Quebec and they would have one of their French members in France going to him and giving him cash.

It's interesting because the HA in France are not as involved in criminality as the HA members in Northern Europe. We know that the French HA are close to the French canadians HA for obvious reason but it's the first time i have seen an actual involvement of the French HA in a criminal operation run by the Quebec Hell's Angels.


Basically, the operation consisted on using the cover of a tourist boat to ship 1.5 tons of cocaine from Colombia to Canada. It was organized by infamous Quebec gangster Raymond Desfossés and the Hell's Angels.

As i said, the man didn't provide any name but given the scale of the operation, i would assume that Martin Robert was involved.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/01/24 12:23 AM

Originally Posted by CabriniGreen
Originally Posted by VitoCahill
good catch ciment about the robert and scoppa meeting in mexico, i had forgot about that. most articles from 2019 do state that most criminals or groups in quebec gravitate towards either thre rizzuto-sollecito or HA/ martin robert so that makes sense. we will have to see when further info comes out of these indictments. the connections to the illegal dumpong on kanesatake reserve would also steer roberto scoppa to being allied with robert as that reserve is fully martin robert territory.



It can be forgiven saying Mexico, as this coke did come from or at least through Mexico. It is entirely possible he met with Mexicans in Colombia. The thing is the Mexicans are IN Canada. It's coming over land. It's possible Robert has the most reliable "open door" in Canada at the moment with the Indian border.
Maybe he had to shore up supply. But the language they used was significant. They said wholesaler, not importer.


Martin Robert was already arrested in Cancun (Mexico) on January 13, 2010.

Québec police had information (sent to their Mexican counterparts) that certain wanted members of the Hells Angels were hiding in Mexico. Mexican authorities launched an investigation that led them to the Cancun area. Martin Robert was arrested in a discotheque. He had entered Mexico under a false identity. Mexican immigration authorities deported Martin Robert, who was handed over to Québec police on January 16, 2010.

Tatoos: winged death's head with the inscription Hells Angels Forever on the left chest; "MONTRÉAL" on the right side ribs; "Original Gangster" on the left side ribs; "AFFA" on back of right arm.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/01/24 09:16 PM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...himent/pour-dany-de-la-part-du-vieux.php

Cocaine importation and laundering “For Dany, from the old man

Earlier articles:

https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/rcmp-makes-3-arrests-for-money-laundering-in-montreal-area-1.5978406

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...18-millions-d-argent-sale-en-10-mois.php
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/02/24 06:58 AM

I remember him being mentioned in the Scoppa book and I always figured he was just still tied to the garbage business. Very interesting, I figured if he was tied into any gangster shit they would have popped him before/after they killed the other two Scoppa brothers. Especially after they were playing dirty it seems by killing family members. Makes me think Roberto was lower level back then maybe?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/03/24 11:34 AM

https://www.borderlandbeat.com/2024/02/fbi-takes-down-drug-trafficking-network.html

FBI Takes Down Drug Trafficking Network Connecting Mexican Cartels to Canadian Mafia Figures
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/03/24 08:55 PM

Mirarchi also has strong ties to the South Americans.
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/04/24 07:22 AM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Mirarchi also has strong ties to the South Americans.


Any articles you could point me to?
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/04/24 08:22 AM

Quote
The person mentioned most often while Théberge-Turmel detailed Mirarchi’s cocaine suppliers was, by far, Luis Carrillo Torres, a Mexican who was living illegally in Los Angeles in 2011.


Here’s one:

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...1122c57-b270-4ad8-8790-e7960bea9530/amp/
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/04/24 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by dixiemafia
Quote
The person mentioned most often while Théberge-Turmel detailed Mirarchi’s cocaine suppliers was, by far, Luis Carrillo Torres, a Mexican who was living illegally in Los Angeles in 2011.


Here’s one:

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...1122c57-b270-4ad8-8790-e7960bea9530/amp/



This is fascinating. This is basically the SAME type of setup. LA based Mexican suppliers, Montreal based broker/wholesaler coordinating a network of Canada based truckers to move the stuff.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/04/24 12:18 PM

Originally Posted by CabriniGreen
Originally Posted by dixiemafia
Quote
The person mentioned most often while Théberge-Turmel detailed Mirarchi’s cocaine suppliers was, by far, Luis Carrillo Torres, a Mexican who was living illegally in Los Angeles in 2011.


Here’s one:

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...1122c57-b270-4ad8-8790-e7960bea9530/amp/



This is fascinating. This is basically the SAME type of setup. LA based Mexican suppliers, Montreal based broker/wholesaler coordinating a network of Canada based truckers to move the stuff.


Yes that's why this bust reminded me of him. Seems they have been using LA for many years.

Montreal Mafia family sent weekly chartered flights stuffed with millions in cash to L.A. to buy cocaine
Alessandro Taloni pleaded guilty in New York City Thursday after raids found millions of dollars and large drug stashes in his fancy Beverly Hills home and luxury car.

https://nationalpost.com/news/quebe...lan-pleads-guilty-to-cocaine-trafficking
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/06/24 10:07 PM

Montreal arson squad investigates string of firebombings on Tuesday

https://globalnews.ca/news/10275545/montreal-arson-squad-firebombings/
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/06/24 10:29 PM

Mob-Biker Boss Colombia Vacation Was Nothing But A Gangster Party: Marty & Bobby’s Trip To South America In ’19 Recently Comes To Light

https://gangsterreport.com/colombia...h-america-in-19-recently-comes-to-light/
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/08/24 10:27 PM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...x-autres-suspects-arretes-et-accuses.php

Shooting at a mafioso's business
Two more suspects arrested and charged
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/09/24 02:06 PM

The secret snitch who brought down the narcos
Recently unsealed court documents provide an inside account of Operation Dead Hand, an FBI drug smuggling probe spanning Canada, U.S. and Mexico

https://torontosun.com/longreads/the-secret-snitch-who-brought-down-the-narcos
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/16/24 04:30 PM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-un-tueur-a-gages-a-fuir-la-justice.php#

Convicted of helping a hitman flee justice
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/16/24 04:37 PM


I posted this article here for now. Don't know if he is linked to HA ,Mafia or other ?

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...omne-les-menottes-aux-poignets-cet-hiver


Shot at close range this fall, handcuffed this winter
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/16/24 05:12 PM

https://montrealgazette.com/news/a-look-at-girard-anglades-criminal-background

Who is Girard Anglade, the man with a long criminal background linked to the Hells Angels?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/16/24 05:14 PM

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...ck-silva-hide-after-murder-pleads-guilty

Man who helped hit man Frédérick Silva hide after murder pleads guilty
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/16/24 11:56 PM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...iminels-craindront-la-police-en-2024.php

“Criminals will fear the police in 2024”
"According to our information, Silva has confessed to 65 murders and attempted murders occurring since the 1990s, in which he was involved or for which he knows something."
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/18/24 02:57 PM

Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/23/24 12:55 PM

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/10-3-podcast-the-secret-snitch-who-brought-down-the-narcos


10/3 podcast: The secret snitch who brought down the narcos
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/28/24 03:24 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...r-un-tenor-du-crime-et-ses-complices.php

Louis Nagy, who has been on the radar of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) a few times over the years, was sentenced to four years and eight months of penitentiary yesterday.

Two of his accomplices, Robert Bryant and Marco Milan, received sentences of three years and eight months for the first and two and a half years for the second. A fourth accomplice, Dean Copkov, a movie stuntman, was murdered in a context of theft that went wrong in Ontario the day before the pleading. In his case, the prosecution filed a stay of proceedings.

Nagy, Bryant, Milan and Copkov were arrested in 2013 by the RCMP after an investigation called "Unmarried" by which the federal police fanned two plots to import tons of hashish and cocaine. However, they were conspiracies, no drugs were seized.

After a jury trial, Bryant and Milan were found guilty of importing hashish and cocaine, while Nagy and Copkov were convicted of the only hashish import conspiracy .

Louis Nagy, 59, is well known to the police, especially the RCMP. In the early 2000s, he and a score of other individuals had been arrested and charged after a spectacular investigation called Chevalin in which the federal police had carried out about fifty searches and seized in particular more than 4000 kilograms hashish and prohibited weapons. Nagy had been sentenced to eight years as a penitentiary in this case.

Louis Nagy is close to the boss Raynald Desjardins, who is currently being held for plotting the murder of aspiring sponsor Salvatore Montagna, who was killed in November 2011.


Un proche de Raynald Desjardins peut aller en maison de transition
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...s-peut-aller-en-maison-de-transition.php
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/29/24 07:14 PM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...pliquer-dans-des-projets-immobiliers.php

Tony Accurso will be able to get involved in real estate projects
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 02/29/24 07:31 PM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...-deja-libre-apres-huit-mois-de-detention

Sentenced to four years of detention: Tony Accurso already free after eight months of detention
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/02/24 04:04 AM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...n-promoteur-proche-du-crime-organise.php

The “girl from UQAM” pursues a promoter close to organized crime
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/02/24 04:13 AM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...omoteur-immobilier-lie-au-crime-organise

The “girl from UQAM” Hélène Boudreau was allegedly taken in by a real estate developer linked to organized crime
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/02/24 02:35 PM

Nagy is an interesting guy. During his first federal sentence, Nagy was considered to be connected to a clan called Mayers, but authorities no longer consider him to be part of that group.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/02/24 05:13 PM

Originally Posted by VitoCahill
https://www.justice.gov/opa/page/file/1037286/download

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...eurs-quebecois-incarceres-aux-etats-unis

2 links to other grandparent scams involving men from montreal, one of which is the brother of bernard cherfan, rony. rony along with his brother bernard are now both dead. bernard in a june 2022 murder and rony in 2021. rony as far as i can tell was not murdered but i cannot find a cause of death. both cherfan brothers have been linked to supporting and hiding frederick silva.

14 ans de taule pour le meurtre de Bernard Cherfan :
https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...ation-dans-le-meurtre-de-bernard-cherfan
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/15/24 03:06 PM

Un spa ciblé par des tirs
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...3-15/laval/un-spa-cible-par-des-tirs.php
Posted By: mike68

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/15/24 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia


Who is Tony Papa connected to?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/15/24 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia


other Avanti spa's, there seems to be a chains of spa's by the same name.

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2019/06/18/incendie-criminel-dans-un-commerce-de-cote-des-neiges

https://montrealgazette.com/sponsor...ing-as-this-montreal-institution-expands

https://montrealgazette.com/sponsor...-fashion-and-flair-to-its-third-location

There is seems to be more than one Papa by the same name , the CEO of Avanti is much younger than Tony Papa.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/15/24 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by mike68
Originally Posted by antimafia


Who is Tony Papa connected to?


This article should answer your question.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/tony-papa-1.3862798
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/16/24 10:41 AM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...eration-en-attendant-son-extradition.php

Roberto Scoppa requests his release pending extradition
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/26/24 12:59 PM

Major RCMP strikes in Montreal

Nearly 400 RCMP officers were mobilized Tuesday morning in a major operation targeting a major criminal organization. According to our information, it is the Lopez-Oliverio family clan, suspected by the authorities of working in cocaine trafficking, money laundering and illegal gambling.

The RCMP executed around twenty search warrants in four businesses, 16 residences and two vehicles. The targeted locations are mostly in the Montreal-North and Saint-Léonard sectors.

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...rappes-majeures-de-la-grc-a-montreal.php
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/26/24 01:44 PM

a surprising bust to say the least. with all that continues to go on in mtl/qc i didnt expect a bust this size related to olivero. 16 people arrested no names yet, odd that the alleged leader of this clan is not one of those arrested? when said names are released it may finally reveal who the olivero-lopez are allied with and who has been working with them. and of all the mafia clans in mtl why this clan now? is it related to any of the gang HA conflicts? or the MAFIA vs. HA gambling conflict? or is it unrelated to a conflict and perhaps related to some of the large drug busts of all kinds that have been broken up lately? scoppa et al, the mafia and west end grow ops? i suppose we will have to wait a little.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/26/24 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by Blackmobs
Major RCMP strikes in Montreal

Nearly 400 RCMP officers were mobilized Tuesday morning in a major operation targeting a major criminal organization. According to our information, it is the Lopez-Oliverio family clan, suspected by the authorities of working in cocaine trafficking, money laundering and illegal gambling.

The RCMP executed around twenty search warrants in four businesses, 16 residences and two vehicles. The targeted locations are mostly in the Montreal-North and Saint-Léonard sectors.

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...rappes-majeures-de-la-grc-a-montreal.php


Opération majeure contre la mafia italienne à Montréal
https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2024/03/26/operation-majeure-contre-la-mafia-italienne-a-montreal

Frappes importantes de la GRC dans Montréal-Nord et dans Saint-Léonard
https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/2060264/frappes-grc-montreal-nord-saint-leonard-lopez-oliveiro

RCMP launches raids that target 'suspected Montreal criminal organization'
https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...suspected-montreal-criminal-organization
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/26/24 05:11 PM

Are they affiliated with the 'Ndrangheta?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/26/24 09:06 PM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...es-freres-scoppa-veut-une-vie-tranquille

Accused of drug trafficking in the United States: one of the Scoppa brothers wants a quiet life
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/26/24 09:44 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment
https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...es-freres-scoppa-veut-une-vie-tranquille

Accused of drug trafficking in the United States: one of the Scoppa brothers wants a quiet life


Crown wants Roberto Scoppa, brother of Montreal Mafia leaders, detained despite ankle bracelet offer
https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...ers-has-bail-hearing-in-extradition-case
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/27/24 06:52 AM


Who are the Lopez brothers?
Franco, Giuseppe and Pasquale, of Sicilian allegiance;
Accused of importing cocaine during the Magot-Mastiff drug investigation, between 2014 and 2015;
Released in 2019 after a stay of proceedings;
Considered drug traffickers involved in supplying cocaine for various local organizations;
According to our sources, they control a sales network with the approval of senior figures in the mafia and the Hells Angels;
Their links with these organizations, however, are said to have crumbled due to quantities of poor quality drugs a few years ago;
Bars connected to them were targeted by arson attacks in spring 2020;
Giuseppe (Joe) Lopez was shot and killed in a seaside resort in the Dominican Republic last September;
Nephew of Serafino Oliverio, known under the pseudonym Sergio Lopez, considered an independent clan leader, ex-associate of Vito Rizzuto, major player in money laundering in Montreal and victim of a resounding murder attempt in November 2021.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/28/24 12:29 AM

A Scoppa just wanting a quiet life? That’s funny
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/28/24 06:41 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Originally Posted by Ciment
https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...es-freres-scoppa-veut-une-vie-tranquille

Accused of drug trafficking in the United States: one of the Scoppa brothers wants a quiet life


Crown wants Roberto Scoppa, brother of Montreal Mafia leaders, detained despite ankle bracelet offer
https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...ers-has-bail-hearing-in-extradition-case

Judge to decide on Roberto Scoppa's bail in April
https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/judge-to-decide-on-roberto-scoppas-bail-in-april
Posted By: Benballer

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 03/29/24 07:49 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Originally Posted by antimafia
Originally Posted by Ciment
https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...es-freres-scoppa-veut-une-vie-tranquille

Accused of drug trafficking in the United States: one of the Scoppa brothers wants a quiet life


Crown wants Roberto Scoppa, brother of Montreal Mafia leaders, detained despite ankle bracelet offer
https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...ers-has-bail-hearing-in-extradition-case

Judge to decide on Roberto Scoppa's bail in April
https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/judge-to-decide-on-roberto-scoppas-bail-in-april

No way he gets bail, although hes been low profile his whole life his brothers are to notorious in the media which depletes his credibility.. also he is caught via an informant on wire tap. Hes cooked.. if hes lucky hell get like 12-16 years in the feds. Hell do atleast 10+ years and he better hope he can live a quiet life free once he’s released if hes not killed. He may of been doing this under the radar without kicking up which hell have to pay for once he’s released.
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/01/24 02:43 PM

i guess there will be no forthcoming intell from this highly touted "international mafia bust" from last week concerning the lopez-olivero clan. i see there being a couple reasons for this. one, the rcmp is incapable of releasing proper media info for these alleged large arrests. 400 rcmp to arrest 13 people, 13 people of which 5 were women. no disrespect ladies but those 5 are irrelevant to this bust and likely were employees at some cafes and rest's when arrests took place. the other 8 apparently are soooooooo bad we may never know there names...OR they are just as irrelevant as the 5 women arrested. B, this is an evidence collecting bust similar to others in the past to insure that an ongoing investigation doesnt utterly fall apart like every other rcmp bust related to the mafia in the last 10 years in both qc and ontario.or 3, within minutes of this post all said missing info will be released. there is also no mention of seized items of any kind.

rcmp claim however that the lopez-olivero clan are still active in mtl north concerning cocaine trafficking, money laundering and a new allegation not yet seen of being involved in sports gambling. to the claims of cocaine trafficking i would hope there is more intell than the lopez bros proj mastiff indictment. that is 10 yr old news and charges related to it all in there entirety have been dismissed. i say this only to dispell the ongoing claims that this clan continues to operate in the same way with the same crime groups. so much has changed in the milieu since 2014/2015 'if' the l-o clan are still wholesaling cocaine it is likely to a different group of people than 10 years ago. the more intriguing aspect is the involvement in sports betting. if this is true it makes the attempt on serafino olivero in nov 2021, subsequent arsons at owned businesses and murder of giuseppe lopez in sept 2023 more than likely related to 'the book' conflict than any other. i cannot speculate however as to which side this clan falls if violent events against are related to them is part of mafia vs. HA gambling conflict. it could be that indeed as some have speculated the lopez-olivero had a falling out with rizzuto/sollecito clan at some point and chose to side with HA over control of 'the book.' or they were being directly targeted by HA. at least with this conflict (mafia vs. ha) the sides are clear compared to other possible conflicts, feuds or wars currently ongoing in montreal and qc city.
Posted By: Mafia101

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/01/24 05:37 PM

We know Franco Lopez and Pasquale Lopez were along those arrested. The article said these were only searches to gather evidence for the investigation as has been the norm in recent times. No charges were expected to be filed unless the searches turned up something that warranted one. The 13 that were arrested were likely given notices to appear at a later date like we've seen previously. The remaining Lopez brothers are the main targets of this case.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/05/24 04:11 PM

Roberto Scoppa demeurera détenu durant les procédures
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...meurera-detenu-durant-les-procedures.php

Roberto Scoppa denied bail while he challenges extradition request
https://montrealgazette.com/news/roberto-scoppa-denied-bail-while-he-challenges-extradition-request
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/05/24 08:48 PM

^^^^
Paul Cherry has updated his Gazette article.

new:
Trafic de stupéfiants aux États-Unis : un des frères Scoppa échoue à être libéré
https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...n-des-freres-scoppa-echoue-a-etre-libere
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/10/24 07:49 PM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...ntion-pour-avoir-brise-une-condition.php

Tony Accurso returns to custody for breaking condition
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/10/24 07:52 PM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2024/04/10/tony-accurso-retourne-en-prison

Released a few weeks ago, Tony Accurso returns to prison
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/11/24 07:55 PM

Un courtier immobilier condamné à six ans de pénitencier
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...er-condamne-a-six-ans-de-penitencier.php
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/14/24 05:09 AM

Un homme de main du mafieux Marco Pizzi arrêté pour pornographie juvénile
https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/2064478/mafieux-marco-pizzi-pornographie-juvenile
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/14/24 12:14 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Un homme de main du mafieux Marco Pizzi arrêté pour pornographie juvénile
https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/2064478/mafieux-marco-pizzi-pornographie-juvenile


Distributing child pornography disgusting, while Pizzi isn't involved it doesn't look good..
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/18/24 04:45 PM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...ique-dans-des-fraudes-grands-parents.php

Italian organized crime involved in grandparent fraud
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over - 04/18/24 04:50 PM

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...rrete-14-suspects-dans-le-grand-montreal

Grandparent fraud: Ontario police arrest 14 suspects in Greater Montreal
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