what are the chances of anthony nicodemo flipping?

Sorry if there is a thread already about this. I didn't see it. So I apologize if I made one for no reason.. But with all the philly shit going on right now what is everyones opinion, inside knowledge, ant kind of information regarding nicodemos murder charge and the likely hood of him flipping? If he hasn't already.. I don't know I personally feel like he will go "bad".. He's young and he's pretty fucked.. Don't see anyway out for him and highly doubt he's going to stand up.. Thoughts?

I say...

Flips -275
Stands up +255

Hes an underdog lol but who dont like an underdog?

Haha good stuff skinny.. I'm really interested to see how this turns out.. For some reason I think there's more to the murder. I find it hard to believe he was so stupid about the hit.. Maybe he was the crash car? And was suppossed to ditch the guns and ski mask? Driving your own car to do a hit is the dumbest thing ever, then keeping the gun and driving straight home? Seriously retarded. If not the guys a fucking moron.. I say he flips.. But I guess we will see.

You gotta be a moron to get a button nowadays its a prerequisite.

There are other topics on this but some have been closed out - it will be interesting to see if or when he flips. I'm local in Philly and you are right this is the dumbest hit ever ... Have to think there was a crash car and others involved but the mailman only took his license tags down which is how they basically beat him home to the house - funny thing is he lives about 5 or 6 houses down from ligambi. My question is if he turns are there moving trucks outside in middle of night ... ligambis family can see that happening no question about it..also Nicodemo HAS to have info on Gongs and Mortarano - possibly the hitman on both - definately gongs suspect...gongs casasanto responsible for mortarano is what they say with others as suspects as well so there are more than one in south Philly shaking , or should be ... Nicodemo has two young kids .. Unless he gives his life to this thing in the can - all these guys on trial will be back in court soon enough ... Although I think they all walk and get out this week , then there could be major activity in south Philly in an effort to close the loops in Nicodemo turn

Yeah fully agree with you.. I don't believe he acted alone that's for sure, had to be other people in on the hit like you said crash cars ect. Even if he was the shooter.. Ha ya he's fucked like you said ligambis family will see them moving his family out if he flips..I've heard many times that he was in on the gongs and mortarano hits.. Put it this way I'm sure there's a few people in s. Philly who aren't on trial right now who are stressing the fuck out about nicodemo flipping and giving up info on those murders.. Young guy, wife, 2 children.. Don't think he's standing at all.. There's been guys who have flipped facing a lot less time than he is right now.. Shits going to hit the fan..

Maybe it was just a "heat of passion" thing and he just went over there and shot the guy.

Yep, the majority of these guys arent touting college degrees on their resume that's for sure. And the few that are, arent usually made and maintain loose links as associates.



Reminds me of when bobby deluca flipped in new england, he was missing for a number of wks (probably being debriefed) and then his family just packed up all their stuff and left. By that point it was very obvious what happened.

Even if Ligambi's family see's them fleeing town in the middle of the night, its not like somebody is going to try something against them. They will be protected, and at that point the one that can do real damage to the borgata is already in custody and cooperating (if he does) so theres no point in doing anything to his family/doesnt matter if they see them leaving.

Agree Dapper - I was thinking more along lines that they tell uncle joe and the others that aren't on trial and in the can ... There are still soldiers out there on the street and senior guys that a free - some old school looking to get back involved and some younger up and comers ... Side of me says it's too bad that Nicodemo got involved in this one .. Even if dipietro was talking to the Feds about the gongs hit or another (as it's being suspected and talking about Nico) it would have been tough to prove after nearly 10 years ... I'm wondering if an order came during Chuckie Merlinos funeral in Philly recently and right before the hit .. Lots of wise guys around during that week in south Philly ... surveillance has nico showing up and Joey being there as well ... Some pasta for thought

Yeah, everything is speculation at this point. We just all have to be patient and see what happens.

Aside from everything Nicodemo was a fast riser with Philly. Big money earner, made guy and suspected in several hits...was also a well liked wise guy on the street and family man ... During the day , own car , in front of the victims house , weapon in car ... What the hell was he thinking is right .. something doesn't make sense

Skinny- yeah it could have been a weird "heat of passion" thing. Could have heard he was cooperating and then panicked and ran out and killed the guy before thinking about it.

On the other hand it just seems so unplanned and dumb, should have driven a stolen car, or at the very least got some stolen plates.. And ditch the fucking gun and ski mask asap.. Yeah I heard nicodemo was a good earner.. I feel like there has to me more to this hit than we know.. Someone who arguably has gotten away with participating in a few hits before this, then pulls this shit, makes you wonder.

the big one the cops just swipe your hand or fingers for the kickback dust and that shit proves your automaticly guilty they do it in every murder case when they find the weapon that fast, the big thing was that the murder gun. just me the guy looks like he was in a coke bing/crazy in the pic of him arrested maybe selling coke on the side, and just murderd his connect so he didnt have to pay the rest of the family the reason for the mask. idk?

Anthony Nicodemo may become like Brooks from Shaw-shank...I don't mean it in a sense of killing himself but the thought of him growing old in a state prison and feeding a little mouse will make a guy flip. The fact that Ligambi allegelly didn't look after his own nephews family shows the "BROTHERHOOD" of the Philadelphia Mob!

Good anaology DN, and teh guy just finished doing time for the Borgata case and was away from his family, unless he is just a sociopath

Are we sure he did time in the Borgata case ? Thought he had no jail time

Yeah I didn't think he went away either, I'm pretty sure he got off with probation or something

He didn't. He got a suspended sentence.

Four year suspended sentence but he did do 89 days in the Atlantic County Jail before he was sentenced. Not bad considering he was the ringleader.

The wiretap snippet of him schooling Drew or"DEW" Micali is great.."The lions and the Lams..F'n John Gotti's SON!.. " I AM ANTHONY NICODEMO HEAR ME ROAR!!!! His making ceremony from what I heard was a bit different then the traditional ones...Ligambi because of his age and size had to get a big muscular guy to pick Anthony up and hold him over a rooftop to reenact the lion king " MAAAAAAAAAAA ZIMBBBBBB BAAA BA DI DA BO DOFU GO AAHHHHH"

Andrew Micali, but people call him Dew. He had a brother Michael "Nippy" Micali that was murdered back in the 1980's. Stevie Vento was charged with the murder but beat the case, jury found him not guilty.

Nicodemo got a 4 year suspended sentence and he was the ringleader. His boy Micali got 5 years but was released after he was accepted into some intensive supervision parole program. Makes you wonder how the ringleader walks with a suspended sentence and his underling gets 5 years state time.

Nicodemo sounds like a real jackass on that tape. Looks like he's now the lamb sitting in that philly lockup zoo surrounded by inner city lions who could give 2 shits about him and his reputation as a tough guy.

How old was micali when he was taking the best down there in AC, like 25-26? who was the person to dime these guys out in this case? was it a degenerate.....they had the poker room and then next door is the horse racing book, that was some money rolling in and out of AC and now Chritie wants to get that legalized

In a article on the Borgata bust it said Micali was 32 at the time he was arrested. The article also called him the ringleader but if you listen to that tape of Nicodemo and Micali it seemed pretty obvious who was calling the shots. Micali was Nicodemo's guy inside the Borgata but it seemed to me that he answered to Nicodemo.

LMAO

Just wondering what everyone thought about Anthony... I kno a lot of people said they think he will flip.. But I dunno... I mean he does have the kids and wife but I guess it all comes down to what FAMILY is more important... But I'm def. anxious to find out what he is gonna do... And does anyone kno what the boys in south phila. Think about Nicademo??? I mean he was a stand up guy in the borgata,,, but that's def. not sitting in a city jail and possibly goin to state prison for the rest of his life... Kinda like Harry the hunchback being in state Nd he said it was way different then federal lock up....

It all comes down to how vain he is...

I honestly cant see how he does not flip ... He may be a stand up guy but his kids are young - and he probably sees what's left of the phila lcn and thinks its not worth it ... Either way he won't see daylight for at least 10 years...Feds won't need him that bad

Yes they do. He's their link to 2 Philly murders plus other crimes. But since he is facing a slam dunk murder case, they could offer him any kind of deal and he'd take it.

True The Zoo is very crowded and I'm sure that they put Nicodemo away from the "Inner-City Lions"

If he really is a tough guy, he shouldn't have problems in city lockup.

Tough or Not is gonna take shit some 18 year old black kids...You can't even make a phone call without them trying to steal you number

what if this guy killed anyone that was involved with these hits and the feds need the other killers to corroborate. say he killed this gino guy to cutoff the gongs murder killed gongs to cutoff the long john murder now nowone knows shit. he's fucked.

One of my older buddies grew up with him there is a lot more to the story he'll beat the case even though it seems like a slam dunk

Please fill us in... I mean we only kno what we have read and saw on the news.. And G.A. Is prob. Havin wet dreams over this whole tony nics deal...but would live to kno what more to the story there is...

His wife got excited he bought a pack of condemns, but when he broke the new they weren't for he then had to sleep in the guest beadroom covered in newspaper clippings

If he can stand up for himself, and not come off as a weakling, then he wont be bothered that much. It's not just the biggest, baddest guys that don't get messed with in prison.

He's a prime suspect in the gongs hit - who was suspected in the mortarano hit with a family member ... if canalichio flips first he will inform on those hits first leaving Nicodemo out in the cold ... He's Fawked either way

They might keep all the white boys together since they're so heavily out numbered in the city lockup.

But if not, he better watch that mouth of his. That south philly bravado doesn't fly with the bangers. Especially when they out number you 30 to 1 or whatever the ratio is in there.

Remember what happened to Schibetta on OZ.

You can't really compare Peter Schebetta (whose entire character was poorly written) to Nicodemo's situation. Peter was trying to kill someone much stronger than him (and didn't even bring a weapon) while Nicodemo is just looking to avoid trouble.

They have another person of interest in this hit they don't think he acted on his own

I was just messing around with the clip from OZ. I doubt Nicodemo's taking it up the ass. Well at least so far.

I meant comparing the prison life for Nicodemo in city lockup to Schibetta in Oz. Schibetta was raped because he tried to kill someone much stronger than him (and didn't even think to use a weapon). Nicodemo is just trying to survive in city lockup.

Ted whose that in your avator?

Jack Dragna.

He looks like a GameShow host. lol

Jimmy Fratianno said he looked like a banker.

well good 4 Jimmy what do you think he looks like ?

Do we know if the murderer was even him yet? I just can't believe a mobster, a made member of the Mafia, even if it is in America (Not saying Americans are dumb, but the mobsters seem to have less discipline that those in Italy) can be that dumb in executing a hit.

I really doubt Nicodemo is gonna flip on anyone, i hear he's a pretty hardcore guy and if he ever did flip it would be after he's found guilty at a trial.

Now if the other guys are smart they'll send Nicodemo's wife a nice envelope every few weeks so her and her kids can survive. That would take away some of the incentive to flip because nobody was helping out his family. I read they have 2 very young children and just knowing that his family is being taken care of would greatly reduce the chance he flips in my humble opinion.

But if he gets the death penalty for killing a witness then all bets are off.