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The Handshake Club..High-Profile Attorneys

Posted By: DickNose_Moltasanti

The Handshake Club..High-Profile Attorneys - 12/29/12 05:12 AM

I know we have posters from all over the World on here. But as far as criminal defense attorneys there are good ones,bad ones and list could go on... I'm throwing this out there because I'm getting a bit weary of one of my my co-defendants attorney. The case had been delayed for over three years now. It's got to the point where I'm fed up since it has been drug out for so long.I'm in a complicated spot. I feel that there have been conflict of interest that when addressed could have directly had the case thrown out but then again these guys see each other everyday they have to work together on cases and with this particular case I feel as I'm going to get thrown under the bus considered I didn't turn Stoolie like one has..another co-defendant of mine is a millionaire that's what has me on edge.. I have a feeling that my attorney hasn't been effective enough and never considered filing any motions that I think would be effective in helping me ....
Posted By: dsbaloo

Re: The Handshake Club..High-Profile Attorneys - 12/29/12 07:27 AM

Originally Posted By: DickNose_Moltasanti
I know we have posters from all over the World on here. But as far as criminal defense attorneys there are good ones,bad ones and list could go on... I'm throwing this out there because I'm getting a bit weary of one of my my co-defendants attorney. The case had been delayed for over three years now. It's got to the point where I'm fed up since it has been drug out for so long.I'm in a complicated spot. I feel that there have been conflict of interest that when addressed could have directly had the case thrown out but then again these guys see each other everyday they have to work together on cases and with this particular case I feel as I'm going to get thrown under the bus considered I didn't turn Stoolie like one has..another co-defendant of mine is a millionaire that's what has me on edge.. I have a feeling that my attorney hasn't been effective enough and never considered filing any motions that I think would be effective in helping me ....


Sorry I haven't been on here long. And understand if you don't feel comfortable saying.. But what's the case for? What are the charges? One of your codefendents is a millionaire and the other went stoolie? Sounds fucking horrible
Posted By: Dapper_Don

Re: The Handshake Club..High-Profile Attorneys - 12/29/12 10:53 PM

DNM, what did you do? Or better yet, what are you accused of doing?
Posted By: DickNose_Moltasanti

Re: The Handshake Club..High-Profile Attorneys - 12/30/12 05:35 AM

Originally Posted By: Dapper_Don
DNM, what did you do? Or better yet, what are you accused of doing?


A home invasion of a drug dealer who got shot.

I was arrested 16 months after the incident occurred based on hearsay of a cooperating witness who was the only person that caught near the scene with a good amount of cash, a firearm, and prescription drugs,

Charges are...
Consiparacy,A few Gun Charges , Breaking and Entering, Burglary,Aggravated Assault, Simple Assault, Burglary,

I've been out on bail for a little over 3 years now. I graduated from Temple University six months prior they indicted me on the charges above. I was already on probation at the time my mouthpiece scheduled a surrender I was in jail for about 10 days so I had a bail reduction as well as a detainer lifted. It's starting to wear me thin considering the accusations it's hard for me to make progress in life.

Posted By: Dapper_Don

Re: The Handshake Club..High-Profile Attorneys - 12/30/12 07:00 AM

^^^Sorry to hear your present predicament. I hope things work out. Best of luck!
Posted By: DickNose_Moltasanti

Re: The Handshake Club..High-Profile Attorneys - 12/30/12 07:06 AM

Originally Posted By: Dapper_Don
^^^Sorry to hear your present predicament. I hope things work out. Best of luck!


Yeah maybe I'll roll on IMAMOBGUY OR JOERUSSO and they'll give me the Valachi Suite at La Tuna
Posted By: pmac

Re: The Handshake Club..High-Profile Attorneys - 12/30/12 11:50 PM

home invasion/armed robbery are bad charge most states have a mandatory sentence so if you go to trial and loose its out of the judges discretion.
Posted By: Scorsese

Re: The Handshake Club..High-Profile Attorneys - 12/31/12 12:44 AM

could be a good thing. putting as much time between the crime and trial as possible.
is flipping still be an option? considering theyve already turned one guy in this alledged crime against his co defendants so they might not need anyone else.
Posted By: DickNose_Moltasanti

Re: The Handshake Club..High-Profile Attorneys - 12/31/12 01:46 AM

Yeah I wouldn't flip because I wasn't there...but the kid that did that has told 3 different stories
Posted By: EastHarlemItal

Re: The Handshake Club..High-Profile Attorneys - 12/31/12 01:50 AM

Originally Posted By: Scorsese
could be a good thing. putting as much time between the crime and trial as possible.
is flipping still be an option? considering theyve already turned one guy in this alledged crime against his co defendants so they might not need anyone else.


This day and age it's better to plead out than flip! And that's is they got you! If they don't take them to the wire! Let them play there hand. If they got you the. Take whatever deal they will give you at the last minute!
Posted By: DickNose_Moltasanti

Re: The Handshake Club..High-Profile Attorneys - 12/31/12 02:02 AM

Originally Posted By: EastHarlemItal
Originally Posted By: Scorsese
could be a good thing. putting as much time between the crime and trial as possible.
is flipping still be an option? considering theyve already turned one guy in this alledged crime against his co defendants so they might not need anyone else.


This day and age it's better to plead out than flip! And that's is they got you! If they don't take them to the wire! Let them play there hand. If they got you the. Take whatever deal they will give you at the last minute!


Yeah I have a hearing at the end of the month and if it goes to trial it starts in April
Posted By: EastHarlemItal

Re: The Handshake Club..High-Profile Attorneys - 12/31/12 02:07 AM

Let them play your hand. Hand on the bible I was OFFERED 60- 80! If I plead out! Went to discovery, saw they had shit and it got DIMISSED in a ore- trail conference by the judge!I ran my ass out of that building so fast! My lawyer looks at me and says "run now"!
Posted By: Big Alex

Re: The Handshake Club..High-Profile Attorneys - 12/31/12 02:57 AM

Originally Posted By: DickNose_Moltasanti
I know we have posters from all over the World on here. But as far as criminal defense attorneys there are good ones,bad ones and list could go on... I'm throwing this out there because I'm getting a bit weary of one of my my co-defendants attorney. The case had been delayed for over three years now. It's got to the point where I'm fed up since it has been drug out for so long.I'm in a complicated spot. I feel that there have been conflict of interest that when addressed could have directly had the case thrown out but then again these guys see each other everyday they have to work together on cases and with this particular case I feel as I'm going to get thrown under the bus considered I didn't turn Stoolie like one has..another co-defendant of mine is a millionaire that's what has me on edge.. I have a feeling that my attorney hasn't been effective enough and never considered filing any motions that I think would be effective in helping me ....
1. Ask yourself what evidence there is against you; the general rule is that a conviction will not stand only on the testimony of a co-conspirator. In other words, there must be evidence other then the testimony of this fellow who fingered you. What is that?

2. Evidence held by the State/Feds is available to you & your lawyer thru Discovery. Motions for Discovery should be filed & heard by the Court prior to trial. NOT, on the day of trial. Ask your lawyer what motions he/she has filed; if he has not done this ask him to or otherwise. Be sure to include a request for state's Witness list, this will show you who the State intends to subpoena.

3. Be sure to have your own Subpoena list filed & served on time.

4. Delay is a time proven tactic for Defense; ppl forget, die, move on with their lives.

5. There are a lotta crap lawyers out there - Be sure that you don't have one of them.
Posted By: DickNose_Moltasanti

Re: The Handshake Club..High-Profile Attorneys - 12/31/12 05:17 AM

Originally Posted By: Big Alex
Originally Posted By: DickNose_Moltasanti
I know we have posters from all over the World on here. But as far as criminal defense attorneys there are good ones,bad ones and list could go on... I'm throwing this out there because I'm getting a bit weary of one of my my co-defendants attorney. The case had been delayed for over three years now. It's got to the point where I'm fed up since it has been drug out for so long.I'm in a complicated spot. I feel that there have been conflict of interest that when addressed could have directly had the case thrown out but then again these guys see each other everyday they have to work together on cases and with this particular case I feel as I'm going to get thrown under the bus considered I didn't turn Stoolie like one has..another co-defendant of mine is a millionaire that's what has me on edge.. I have a feeling that my attorney hasn't been effective enough and never considered filing any motions that I think would be effective in helping me ....
1. Ask yourself what evidence there is against you; the general rule is that a conviction will not stand only on the testimony of a co-conspirator. In other words, there must be evidence other then the testimony of this fellow who fingered you. What is that?

2. Evidence held by the State/Feds is available to you & your lawyer thru Discovery. Motions for Discovery should be filed & heard by the Court prior to trial. NOT, on the day of trial. Ask your lawyer what motions he/she has filed; if he has not done this ask him to or otherwise. Be sure to include a request for state's Witness list, this will show you who the State intends to subpoena.

3. Be sure to have your own Subpoena list filed & served on time.

4. Delay is a time proven tactic for Defense; ppl forget, die, move on with their lives.

5. There are a lotta crap lawyers out there - Be sure that you don't have one of them.


After I read the discovery I felt pretty confident that I could beat the case but just recently they introduced new evidence that doesn't look good. I have to hire a specialist now, regarding that matter. My lawyer has filed a motion to not let them use the evidence...I find it very shady the way things are played out. I do have a good attorney he has been around for 40 years hes represented mobsters,murderers, politicians, Professional Athletes,as well as cops.
Posted By: DickNose_Moltasanti

Re: The Handshake Club..High-Profile Attorneys - 12/31/12 05:19 AM

How do I go about filing my own subpoena list...I'm going to google it but if you have any good law websites if anyone does this for PA State Court let me know. Thank You
Posted By: TonyG

Re: The Handshake Club..High-Profile Attorneys - 12/31/12 05:31 AM

DickNose, your attorney should be giving you the best legal advise and counsel possible. I don't know the details of your situation, but if you have co-defendants, and they have different attorneys, conflicts often arise. Again, without knowing your circumstances, in most cases, attorneys try to sever one defendant from another into separate trials. The strategies for this are obvious.

If you feel your attorney is not representing your best interests, get another attorney. It sounds like your gut is talking to you.
Posted By: stern49

Re: The Handshake Club..High-Profile Attorneys - 12/31/12 06:11 AM

Do you have a Public Pretender (Public Defender) at all? Your co-defendants attorney is fighting for him, because he's actually paid by your co-defendant, not by the county. If that's the case of course.

A Public Defender gets paid by the county, and most of the time are close to the DA. They hang out and go out on working lunches together all the time. They really can care less about the people they should be fighting for. You can always fire your attorney and ask your Judge for a court Appointed lawyer. They are much better.
Posted By: Giancarlo

Re: The Handshake Club..High-Profile Attorneys - 12/31/12 06:17 AM

Originally Posted By: DickNose_Moltasanti

A home invasion of a drug dealer who got shot.

Charges are...
Consiparacy,A few Gun Charges , Breaking and Entering, Burglary,Aggravated Assault, Simple Assault, Burglary,


Jesus Christ DickNose, those are some real bad charges. Use of a firearm in the commission of a crime where the victim got shot? Real bad charge. Even worse is the Home Invasion where the victim was wounded.

As soon as you get full discovery you should get a good feel for the case, You'll know if you can beat it or not. But those charges could be real trouble. If you don't think you can beat the case then i highly recommend cutting a plea deal. If you're found guilty on all those charges after a trial the judge will show you no mercy. Armed home invasion is a VERY serious charge.

Shit, sorry to hear about your problems. Good luck in court.
Posted By: stern49

Re: The Handshake Club..High-Profile Attorneys - 12/31/12 06:18 AM

cops always add charges. Dicknose could have did one thing wrong and they added the rest. Cops do it and get away with this all the time.
Posted By: stern49

Re: The Handshake Club..High-Profile Attorneys - 12/31/12 06:22 AM

But those are some pretty heavy charges......
Posted By: Giancarlo

Re: The Handshake Club..High-Profile Attorneys - 12/31/12 06:28 AM

Originally Posted By: stern49
cops always add charges. Dicknose could have did one thing wrong and they added the rest. Cops do it and get away with this all the time.


No doubt about that. They love to bury you with indictable offenses. I think they figure even if you make a deal and get some charges dropped that there will still be enough to fuck you over.

Do you have priors Dicknose? That could also seriously work against you at sentencing, assuming that you'll be found guilty.
Posted By: DickNose_Moltasanti

Re: The Handshake Club..High-Profile Attorneys - 12/31/12 07:37 AM

My Ex GF told me The D.A. lied at my bail hearing my waving papers in the air saying that they had me on camera at a CVS or Walgreens buying materials you use for that type of crime ...which they didn't ..My lawyer put it simply because the one kid confessed to the thing..and said I was there along with another kid that was enough to get warrants for both of us. It's kinda crazy the way the system works.

The victim said in the discovery that he took up to 8 oxycontins a day..he is not called to testify he could not even give a skin color to the police ..They read him his rights in the hospital and charged him with intent to distribute..and said you have the right to remain silence but do you want to talk to us and he did... he went on the run
Posted By: stern49

Re: The Handshake Club..High-Profile Attorneys - 12/31/12 10:17 AM

A handshake and a mans good word is all you need back in the days,for the most part. Not anymore.
Posted By: Jimmy_Two_Times

Re: The Handshake Club..High-Profile Attorneys - 12/31/12 02:35 PM

True that... The good ol' days
Posted By: gamms

Re: The Handshake Club..High-Profile Attorneys - 12/31/12 03:24 PM

Originally Posted By: EastHarlemItal
Originally Posted By: Scorsese
could be a good thing. putting as much time between the crime and trial as possible.
is flipping still be an option? considering theyve already turned one guy in this alledged crime against his co defendants so they might not need anyone else.


This day and age it's better to plead out than flip! And that's is they got you! If they don't take them to the wire! Let them play there hand. If they got you the. Take whatever deal they will give you at the last minute!


thats your guy talking east!lol. of corse we were supposed to go the complete opposite route.lol.

on a more serious note dn,where do is the main witness staying?
Posted By: Giancarlo

Re: The Handshake Club..High-Profile Attorneys - 12/31/12 05:40 PM

DickNose i hear Rio de Janeiro is pretty nice this time of year, maybe you should consider "relocating".wink

The way i understand the law down there is if you knock up a Brazilian woman and she gives birth they won't deport you. I remember reading that in the case against that guy in cali, Jesse James Hollywood. His problem was his girlfriend didn't give birth before they grabbed him, but if she did he would of been left alone since he would of been the father of a Brazilian child.

Anyone else remember that about Brazil? Just a thought DickNose.
Posted By: DickNose_Moltasanti

Re: The Handshake Club..High-Profile Attorneys - 12/31/12 05:45 PM

Ecuador you can live on $12 K a year
Posted By: DickNose_Moltasanti

Re: The Handshake Club..High-Profile Attorneys - 12/31/12 05:50 PM

Originally Posted By: Giancarlo
DickNose i hear Rio de Janeiro is pretty nice this time of year, maybe you should consider "relocating".wink

The way i understand the law down there is if you knock up a Brazilian woman and she gives birth they won't deport you. I remember reading that in the case against that guy in cali, Jesse James Hollywood. His problem was his girlfriend didn't give birth before they grabbed him, but if she did he would of been left alone since he would of been the father of a Brazilian child.

Anyone else remember that about Brazil? Just a thought DickNose.


Yeah I saw that's a crazy story for anyone who hasn't heard of it they can rent Alpha Dog lol I saw the one special they make him out like some little turd in the movie but in real life he was a big dude he could handle himself.. The mom whose played by Sharon Stone tried killing herself like 15 times and didn't want the movie released well she finally came to terms with it I saw she did a 30 min segment with ID Discovery in which she promoted her book "Stolen Boy" about her son. If I remember right there was in an erriee striking resemblance between the actor that played her son and the kid himself
Posted By: DickNose_Moltasanti

Re: The Handshake Club..High-Profile Attorneys - 12/31/12 06:02 PM



on a more serious note dn,where do is the main witness staying?[/quote]

Gamms from all people I did't expect to hear something like that from you.. C'mon ... What am I suppose to do pull a Nicodemo ...
Posted By: EastHarlemItal

Re: The Handshake Club..High-Profile Attorneys - 12/31/12 06:29 PM

Real men don't run, chin up and eyes forward!
They closed that BraIlian loop hole years ago! If anywhere Venezuela is the place to go.
Posted By: Giancarlo

Re: The Handshake Club..High-Profile Attorneys - 12/31/12 06:53 PM

Originally Posted By: EastHarlemItal
They closed that BraIlian loop hole years ago! If anywhere Venezuela is the place to go.

They did change that Brazilian law? Too bad.

Venezuela? Even with Chavez still running the show? I know at one time it was a popular place to hide out in but i thought Chavez might of cracked down on all the american criminals hiding out there.

How about the Dominican Republic? I know more then a few mob guys are supposed to be down there.

Dicknose has your lawyer told you how long a sentence your looking at? Those are some nasty charges. Were you specifically charged with "Armed Home Invasion"?
Posted By: EastHarlemItal

Re: The Handshake Club..High-Profile Attorneys - 12/31/12 07:15 PM

venezuela is the place! Chavez loves to dare the US with his "try and come here" routine. The country is a mess, sad its a very nice place too! But no they wont send you back from there
Posted By: gamms

Re: The Handshake Club..High-Profile Attorneys - 12/31/12 07:27 PM

i just meant a friendly talk.lol. but yeah what ever floats you boat.
Posted By: DickNose_Moltasanti

Re: The Handshake Club..High-Profile Attorneys - 12/31/12 08:01 PM

Belgium still no extradition
Posted By: DickNose_Moltasanti

Re: The Handshake Club..High-Profile Attorneys - 12/31/12 08:02 PM

Originally Posted By: gamms
i just meant a friendly talk.lol. but yeah what ever floats you boat.


Well we'll see ...him and his whore mother motherfuckers
Posted By: gamms

Re: The Handshake Club..High-Profile Attorneys - 12/31/12 08:30 PM

you ever been inside dickie?
Posted By: Big Alex

Re: The Handshake Club..High-Profile Attorneys - 01/08/13 03:41 AM

DN, Go to the Court house and ask for the Clerk's office, there should be a Civil & Criminal Divisions; you want criminal. Criminal may be divided into Misdemeanor and Felony sections-- ask for your file, you may need your file number as some of these lazy Gov't hacks will find it to demanding to look up the case by name. Your case number should be all over any papers that you have or ask your lawyer's secretary or bailbondsman.

In the file should be copies of any motions & Subpoenas filed, this will show you what has been filed & what has not been filed.

You may also ask for a Subpoena form (blank) to see what one looks like if not in the file. You may also want a to check the names and records of your alleged co-conspirators or witnesses. These are public records & are available to the public.
Posted By: Dapper_Don

Re: The Handshake Club..High-Profile Attorneys - 01/09/13 01:06 AM

^^^sounds like you got some personal experience with this process...
Posted By: Big Alex

Re: The Handshake Club..High-Profile Attorneys - 01/09/13 03:21 AM

Yes.
Posted By: Big Alex

Re: The Handshake Club..High-Profile Attorneys - 01/09/13 03:28 AM

DN,

All law schools have law libraries, also the Court House should have one--- Pray for a Friendly librarian, so look sharp & be on your best Behavior.

Cornell Univerity has a Law Library on line. I'll try to find the website.
Posted By: DickNose_Moltasanti

Re: The Handshake Club..High-Profile Attorneys - 01/09/13 03:31 AM

^ Thanks I have a good attorney my dad put it simply hes been practicing law for 30 + years you wouldn't want him to tell you how to do your job ...so I'll just leave it at that
Posted By: Dapper_Don

Re: The Handshake Club..High-Profile Attorneys - 01/09/13 03:33 AM

http://library.lawschool.cornell.edu/esources/

I went to Cornell for business school.
Posted By: Big Alex

Re: The Handshake Club..High-Profile Attorneys - 01/09/13 03:49 AM

DN, Next time don't ask for advice.
Posted By: DickNose_Moltasanti

Re: The Handshake Club..High-Profile Attorneys - 01/09/13 04:03 AM


Originally Posted By: Big Alex
DN, Next time don't ask for advice.

Ok Big Alex lol
Posted By: Big Alex

Re: The Handshake Club..High-Profile Attorneys - 01/09/13 04:05 AM

Jerk.
Posted By: DickNose_Moltasanti

Re: The Handshake Club..High-Profile Attorneys - 01/09/13 04:08 AM

Originally Posted By: Dapper_Don
http://library.lawschool.cornell.edu/esources/

I went to Cornell for business school.


Maybe I'll hire you as a consultant and also as a consultant on who was the boss of the genovese family
Posted By: DickNose_Moltasanti

Re: The Handshake Club..High-Profile Attorneys - 01/09/13 04:08 AM

Originally Posted By: Big Alex
Jerk.


Your Welcome AL ANYTIME
Posted By: Skinny

Re: The Handshake Club..High-Profile Attorneys - 01/09/13 04:36 AM

lol
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