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What kind of shape are Colombos in?

Posted By: Dynamic

What kind of shape are Colombos in? - 11/26/12 03:04 AM

I know there are posts somewhere about this, but was just wondering the current state they were in as of now. I here more guys got sentenced last week and more trials are coming up this week. Are they going to recover? Is Reynolds Maragani a credible witness and is he going to bring them and Farese down? Is Farese going to flip? Why does the FBI have such a vendetta with that family? Thanks in advance guys. Hope you all enjoyed your thanksgiving.
Posted By: Dapper_Don

Re: What kind of shape are Colombos in? - 11/26/12 03:06 AM

Maragni was kicked out of the witness protection program and fired as a witness against farese
Posted By: Dynamic

Re: What kind of shape are Colombos in? - 11/26/12 03:10 AM

Maragani is a free man walking the streets?
Posted By: Dynamic

Re: What kind of shape are Colombos in? - 11/26/12 03:13 AM

I here they (Colombos) are merging with the Jewish mafia, atleast down in South Florida. One of the family's attorneys, Goldstein from Miami is connected to them.
Posted By: 123JoeSchmo

Re: What kind of shape are Colombos in? - 11/26/12 03:20 AM

Colombos aren't down for the count yet. But they are easily the weakest of the five families.
Posted By: 123JoeSchmo

Re: What kind of shape are Colombos in? - 11/26/12 03:21 AM

And what's that shit about them merging with the "Jewish mafia"? Unless I'm wrong I don't think there is a a Jewish mafia. South Florida is just a bunch of retired old coots
Posted By: Dynamic

Re: What kind of shape are Colombos in? - 11/26/12 03:40 AM

Just saying what I heard. I here they (Colombos) have had some dealings in night clubs, betting, real estate with some Jewish Organized crime guys. Alvin Malnik and atty David Goldstein have quite a few dealings with the Colombos. But it may just be bullshit, who knows.
Posted By: Dapper_Don

Re: What kind of shape are Colombos in? - 11/26/12 03:59 AM

Maragni violated his deal, he's going to face his original charges
Posted By: Camarel

Re: What kind of shape are Colombos in? - 11/26/12 04:56 AM

Here's a link to what Dappers talking about from his site lol

http://www.fivefamiliesnyc.com/2012/11/feds-fire-colombo-captain-as-government.html
Posted By: BarrettM

Re: What kind of shape are Colombos in? - 11/26/12 05:43 AM

What kind of notes would he have been passing?

Kind of sucks, he got Anthony Casso'd. Going down for the full sentence but also as a rat.
Posted By: Jimmy_Two_Times

Re: What kind of shape are Colombos in? - 11/26/12 03:50 PM

I don't know if the Colombos ever really fullly recovered from the nonstop wars they were fighting back in the day. That, compounded with lots of busts and turncoats they seem to always be taking one step forward and two steps back.
Posted By: TommyGambino

Re: What kind of shape are Colombos in? - 11/26/12 06:23 PM

75% of the Colombo's are idiots, no brains.
Posted By: Little_Frankie

Re: What kind of shape are Colombos in? - 11/26/12 11:01 PM

The Columbos died with Wild Bill.
Posted By: Dwalin2011

Re: What kind of shape are Colombos in? - 11/26/12 11:07 PM

Originally Posted By: Little_Frankie
The Columbos died with Wild Bill.

Why? Wasn't he just a puppet of Orena's?
Posted By: Dapper_Don

Re: What kind of shape are Colombos in? - 11/27/12 12:49 AM

Originally Posted By: Dwalin2011
Originally Posted By: Little_Frankie
The Columbos died with Wild Bill.

Why? Wasn't he just a puppet of Orena's?


Bill from 11th ave was a major player in his own right.
Posted By: gamms

Re: What kind of shape are Colombos in? - 11/27/12 01:16 AM

@dapper. you said it. bill was under his own 'flag'. he was up there with jerry lang and allie shades and frank decicco. real heavyweights. theres nothing wrong with the colombos besides bad leadership decisions. vic orena never should have been given the acting spot.period.the war killed them. any guy that tucked a ingram in his pants is guilty of conspiracy. any guy that drove around as a look out is labeled a 'mafia hitman' by the media.

bottom line.they are not the top of the food chain, but they will survive. because it is more beneficial to everyone to have a successful family rather than a disfunctional one .
Posted By: Dapper_Don

Re: What kind of shape are Colombos in? - 11/27/12 01:24 AM

Orena was a good choice popular with the majority of the borgata and a major player as well, the real problem was/is the Persicos and their refusal to ever relinquish power. If it wasnt for Scarpa Sr and his double dealing as a rat and a hitter they would have lost. The Orena's had the backing of over half the family, the Persicos had Scarpa Sr, young druggies like John Pappa, Carmine Sessa, and a few others.
Posted By: Little_Frankie

Re: What kind of shape are Colombos in? - 11/27/12 01:46 AM

Originally Posted By: Dwalin2011
Originally Posted By: Little_Frankie
The Columbos died with Wild Bill.

Why? Wasn't he just a puppet of Orena's?


He was the last of a dying breed IMO. He was a big time earner, maybe the biggest they had. He knew how to squeeze cash from every situation. He was also a genuine tough guy with hitters all around him. He was feared but more importantly he was respected. He had it all and that's why he's dead. The guys at the top knew that he would own that family someday so they eliminated him. When I say he would have owned that family I don't mean like how Gotti bull rushed his way to the top, I mean that he was a natural leader and those around him would have pushed him there eventually.
Posted By: gamms

Re: What kind of shape are Colombos in? - 11/27/12 01:51 AM

you are right. you basically said what i meant.lol. for the persicos,orena was a bad choice. like how wild bill was so powerful they gave him a bump to keep an extra eye on him. dont get me started on the war. what a waste of life. i lost two friends. many more went 'in'. for a fucking gang war. at least in the army you would have gotten medals. a real shame. carmine sessa is scum. that is all i will say on the subject.
Posted By: conopizza

Re: What kind of shape are Colombos in? - 11/27/12 06:48 AM

I think most people are unaware of the full extent of the Colombo carnage, which goes far beyond the recognized "wars"... lots of lesser known and mysterious but strongly suspected inter-Columbo hits in the late '70s, early '80s... so many that they're not in books I'm aware of, you have to know of them personally, have OC sources in NYPD and/or closely review NYC crime reporting and interpolate from their fragmented and sometimes half-wrong NYPD sources...

In any event, I think it'd be difficult to say who was the more wantonly destructive boss, Carmine P. or Gotti... might have to go with Carmine since he's had so much longer to fuck things up for no reason but his own glorification.

Allie Boy P. on the lam all those years is it's own hell of a story.
Posted By: pmac

Re: What kind of shape are Colombos in? - 11/27/12 07:05 AM

in my opion if chin was backin wild bill he'd been a street boss like barney, they where about 4,5 yrs apart you gotta wonder if they meet i guess so. jack deross a president of some union70ty's good frien of castellano purposed him in the early eighties them guys was best friends, and reading alittle around wild bill was close to jerry lange. never mind carmine persico made him underboss in 87 but broke him fast cause he was to huge in the union. its all documented in the scarpa files a must read for mob readers..small family but strongly connected within there blood and brooklyn and unions to this day.
Posted By: Caramela77

Re: What kind of shape are Colombos in? - 08/14/13 06:41 AM

Originally Posted By: conopizza
I think most people are unaware of the full extent of the Colombo carnage, which goes far beyond the recognized "wars"... lots of lesser known and mysterious but strongly suspected inter-Columbo hits in the late '70s, early '80s... so many that they're not in books I'm aware of, you have to know of them personally, have OC sources in NYPD and/or closely review NYC crime reporting and interpolate from their fragmented and sometimes half-wrong NYPD sources...

In any event, I think it'd be difficult to say who was the more wantonly destructive boss, Carmine P. or Gotti... might have to go with Carmine since he's had so much longer to fuck things up for no reason but his own glorification.

Allie Boy P. on the lam all those years is it's own hell of a story.



I would like to know these supposed other "Mysterious" hits that are not documented that you know of? Sounds like pure fantasy on your end, partner. P.S. You misspelled Colombo, Genius.
Posted By: Ted

Re: What kind of shape are Colombos in? - 08/14/13 07:01 AM

Originally Posted By: Dynamic
Why does the FBI have such a vendetta with that family? Thanks in advance guys. Hope you all enjoyed your thanksgiving.

1. Their war caused too many dead bodies on the street (including civilians. The FBI had to come down hard on them.
2. Because of this, there are so many rats in the family that prosecuting them is relatively easy (Gioeli and Guerra aside). They've become so unstable, everyone wants to jump ship when arrested.
Posted By: bobbytran

Re: What kind of shape are Colombos in? - 08/14/13 02:57 PM

The head of the Colombo Squad at the FBI

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Posted By: Serpiente

Re: What kind of shape are Colombos in? - 08/14/13 07:49 PM

From what i see and hear and know just breathing...Need a few years of peace and quiet...They r putting a lot of cash back into what they have .Looks like it is being done nice and easy..But feds can kick your door down in the AM u never know..
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