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Posted By: andrewc

Phil Leonetti - 11/18/12 07:00 PM

Where is he hiding?
Posted By: Dapper_Don

Re: Phil Leonetti - 11/18/12 07:00 PM

buy his new book mafia prince and find out
Posted By: andrewc

Re: Phil Leonetti - 11/18/12 07:03 PM

i can't believe the us government cut him a deal, his fake everyday manner is insulting
Posted By: DickNose_Moltasanti

Re: Phil Leonetti - 11/18/12 07:03 PM

How is the book?
Posted By: Five_Felonies

Re: Phil Leonetti - 11/18/12 07:10 PM

seems like even with the ability for turncoats like to live out in the open today, phil might be one of the few still in danger. people often talk about the mob not risking the heat by going after witnesses after the damage is already done, but people seem to forget how much damage he did. even though the bull quickly outdid him as a rat, the case can be made that phil caused more damage, which i believe he did. with some of the old time scarfo guys getting out soon, and as long as scarfo sr stil has a breath left in him, i believe that given the chance, somebody would snuff him out in a second, regardless of consequences, not that i think they will ever get the shot though.
Posted By: Scorsese

Re: Phil Leonetti - 11/18/12 07:20 PM

here an excerpt from his book. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national...ticle-1.1203881
Posted By: Imamobguy

Re: Phil Leonetti - 11/18/12 07:22 PM

I agree Andrew. He doesn't even deserve the credit for a book about LCN anymore. It is stupid, He has told law enforcement everything that he knew and now he is writing a book about his past, well didn't he do an interview before? isn't that enough for him. He is now getting all the credit, getting money from his history and says he wants nothing to do with crime anymore? Idiot. Broke a rule and traded his friends.
Posted By: andrewc

Re: Phil Leonetti - 11/18/12 07:27 PM

don't forget he's also a murderer.. "my uncle told me to do it.." pfff
Posted By: pmac

Re: Phil Leonetti - 11/18/12 07:35 PM

i just read the few pages im in. i drop the 20 bucks on amazon. scarfo nephew i betwill shine alot of lite on the the crazy philly mob in the 80ty that nick the crow and tommy d didnt know.
Posted By: DickNose_Moltasanti

Re: Phil Leonetti - 11/18/12 07:53 PM

Five Felonies had mentioned this on here before if you want to read about players in the crime family from the burno days till whenever you can buy the book " I heard you Paint Houses"
Posted By: Joe_Bonanno

Re: Phil Leonetti - 11/18/12 08:00 PM

I ordered the book few days ago, hope it's good
Posted By: Joe_Bonanno

Re: Phil Leonetti - 11/18/12 08:02 PM

But I like Leonetti he turned his life around, not like Gravano or other idiots, that end up in jail, even after they managed to get out from that life
Posted By: Five_Felonies

Re: Phil Leonetti - 11/18/12 08:02 PM

Originally Posted By: DickNose_Moltasanti
Five Felonies had mentioned this on here before if you want to read about players in the crime family from the burno days till whenever you can buy the book " I heard you Paint Houses"
or in you case, sniffing it lol
Posted By: andrewc

Re: Phil Leonetti - 11/18/12 08:16 PM

Originally Posted By: Joe_Bonanno
But I like Leonetti he turned his life around, not like Gravano or other idiots, that end up in jail, even after they managed to get out from that life


he's a murderer. he shouldn't be given the chance
Posted By: Joe_Bonanno

Re: Phil Leonetti - 11/18/12 09:56 PM

Yes,but for me Leonetti is like the old time mobsters - calm, intelligent, charming, you would never say he is a mafioso, but at the same time a killer. Very very dangerous combination. I like him because is not cocky like many of the other ones, but he knew Meyer Lansky and other figures from the old days, probably that's the reason, he learned from them. Always reminded me of Bugsy Siegel - running casino, charming, killer...
Posted By: Imamobguy

Re: Phil Leonetti - 11/19/12 12:53 AM

No way Phil knew Meyer Lansky, Lansky rarely visited Philly and that was only for Booze in the 1920s. Lansky stayed in New York while Phil worked mainly in Philly with Nicky Scarfo! @ Andrew - I have no problem with organized killing people that was killed in business, Cosa Nostra killings. People who have nothing to do with, well I disagree with all that.
Posted By: Giancarlo

Re: Phil Leonetti - 11/19/12 01:06 AM

Leonetti said Scarfo used to take him down to florida back in the 1970's. Most likely the early to mid 1970's if it's really true. And thats when they met up with Lansky according to Leonetti.

From http://themafiaprince.com/2012/11/05/forward/


"Now one of the most important Mafia informants in history, Leonetti never said much during those meetings down in Miami. He was just happy to be there. He looked at Lansky the way others would look at DiMaggio, Caruso or Hemingway. One of a kind. A man who defined the world in which he operated.

Lansky was there at the beginning, when it all started, when Cosa Nos­tra was formed. Leonetti, who rode to power with his uncle and who for a time controlled the mob’s rackets in Philadelphia and Atlantic City, is a man who helped bring it all to an end.

“This was back in the 1970s,” Leonetti said several years ago as he recounted those trips to Florida. “Any time we went, my uncle would call and we’d go over and see Meyer. He’d be sitting there in the restaurant. Him, Nig Rosen. Mickey Weissberg. They used to get together there every day. It was, like, Meyer’s hangout. They’d go there and play cards. Meyer liked us. He liked my uncle. So we’d sit around and he’d tell stories about the old days, about Benny and Charlie and how it used to be.”

Benny was Benjamin “Bugsy” Siegel. Charlie was Charles “Lucky” Luciano. Siegel, of course, brought the mob to Las Vegas. He built the

Flamingo Hotel Casino in 1947 and that turned the desert into a money machine for the mob. Then he forgot who his partners were. And so he was killed.

Years later, Lansky still talked about it.

“Meyer told us about how upset he was when Benny got killed,” Leonetti said. “He really loved Benny. But he said Benny was robbing them guys and he wouldn’t lilsten. He said Benny never liked to listen to the Italians. And that he thought the casino was his, which it wasn’t. It was theirs. Benny would only listen to Meyer and Meyer said he kept him under control the best he could, but when they decided to whack him, there was nothing he could do. It broke his heart when they killed him, but he couldn’t stop it. It was business.

“Then he looked at my uncle and he said, ‘Benny was a stone killer, Nick. But you know, there’s a lot of killers [in the Mafia].’ My uncle just nodded.”"

Posted By: Philly_Broadway

Re: Phil Leonetti - 11/20/12 12:59 AM

Originally Posted By: andrewc
Where is he hiding?
Just Received my book today. I was reading and Phil Leonetti is on the West Coast. I am assuming CA but that is just an educated guess. He is in a seaside community.
Posted By: Giancarlo

Re: Phil Leonetti - 11/20/12 04:44 AM

Leonetti was a cold blooded killer just like his Uncle Nicky. He was a ruthless guy and he loved the life but as soon as he knew he was fucked he flipped. He'll tell you he did he for his kid or because his cousin Mark Scarfo tried to kill himself but lets be honest here, the guy did not want to sit in prison for 45 years so he ratted on everyone he could to get himself a deal and he did get the deal. I'm not sure but i think he served maybe 5 years but it might of been a little more and then he was released and relocated. I have no idea on how he's made a living after being released but i doubt he's making what he used to when he worked for his uncle.

I find interesting the comments he made about Merlino, calling him nothing but a punk and how he better watch out for the Scarfo guys getting released. He said to watch for Narducci and Grande and called them "real gangsters".

Here's what Leonetti said.

"Never a big fan of Joseph “Skinny Joey” Merlino, he writes that the erstwhile mob boss, now cooling his heels in Florida, is better off in the Sunshine State. He describes Merlino as a “punk” and a “thief.” And he warns that guys like Phil Narducci and Joe Grande who were jailed with Scarfo in 1987 and who have recently been released, also have less than a favorable impression of Merlino, a young, cocky wannabe gangster when they were on the streets.

“These guys are real gangsters,” Leonetti says of his former underworld contemporaries."

And here's the article he said it in. http://www.jerseymanmagazine.com/mobscene-leonetti.php
Posted By: azguy

Re: Phil Leonetti - 11/20/12 03:23 PM

Interesting stuff, maybe Joey is smart being down in Florida...
Posted By: LCN1987

Re: Phil Leonetti - 04/03/13 01:56 PM

Originally Posted By: Imamobguy
No way Phil knew Meyer Lansky, Lansky rarely visited Philly and that was only for Booze in the 1920s. Lansky stayed in New York while Phil worked mainly in Philly with Nicky Scarfo! @ Andrew - I have no problem with organized killing people that was killed in business, Cosa Nostra killings. People who have nothing to do with, well I disagree with all that.

Nicky Scarfo visited Lansky quite often in Florida with his nephew Leonetti. Lansky was living there so you're wrong.

Edit: Just saw who I replied to, LOL lol
Posted By: Jules_X

Re: Phil Leonetti - 04/04/13 08:24 AM

I almost finished Mafia prince and it's pretty good. Leonetti reveals alot of details he didn't in his interviews. Yep, he calls Joey Marlino a punk and a no good kid. Read Blood & honor a couple of years ago and I think Caramandi said Leonetti actually wanted to kill Salvie too. In Mafia Prince he's claiming he loved salvie and that that killing was the start of the downward spiral of the Philly LCN.
Posted By: streetbossliborio

Re: Phil Leonetti - 04/04/13 08:52 AM

Originally Posted By: Jules_X
I almost finished Mafia prince and it's pretty good. Leonetti reveals alot of details he didn't in his interviews. Yep, he calls Joey Marlino a punk and a no good kid. Read Blood & honor a couple of years ago and I think Caramandi said Leonetti actually wanted to kill Salvie too. In Mafia Prince he's claiming he loved salvie and that that killing was the start of the downward spiral of the Philly LCN.



that guys a punk. as if he can call merlino a punk. leonetti was a pussy rat that came up bcos of his uncle. then ratted on him after being given a sentence. merlino had the connections but warred his way to the top and accepted a 14 year sentence like it was nothing. leonetti is a spineless rat. in interviews u can see he's a weak punk. I hate this guy so much lol
Posted By: streetbossliborio

Re: Phil Leonetti - 04/04/13 09:00 AM

as if leonetti can call merlino a punk. leonetti was out of the game by his 30s. merlino's been there up until now in his 50's. and how can he call him a kid theres less than 8 yrs between them. merlino is a gangster thru and thru. no chance of him ratting. and he was a boss. he wont care about some old timeers like grande and narducci. he still carries a lot of weight doubt they do. leonetti u cheeky punk, shouldnt even have an opinion on those guys he is dirt on their shoes. leonetti come up on scarfo's back. merlino warred to be there.
Posted By: Camarel

Re: Phil Leonetti - 04/04/13 12:40 PM

Originally Posted By: streetbossliborio
Originally Posted By: Jules_X
I almost finished Mafia prince and it's pretty good. Leonetti reveals alot of details he didn't in his interviews. Yep, he calls Joey Marlino a punk and a no good kid. Read Blood & honor a couple of years ago and I think Caramandi said Leonetti actually wanted to kill Salvie too. In Mafia Prince he's claiming he loved salvie and that that killing was the start of the downward spiral of the Philly LCN.



that guys a punk. as if he can call merlino a punk. leonetti was a pussy rat that came up bcos of his uncle. then ratted on him after being given a sentence. merlino had the connections but warred his way to the top and accepted a 14 year sentence like it was nothing. leonetti is a spineless rat. in interviews u can see he's a weak punk. I hate this guy so much lol


No offence but i find it hilarious how you call these guys spineless rats from your computer in England lol when you've never had to face a decision like theirs yourself.
Posted By: LCN1987

Re: Phil Leonetti - 04/04/13 02:18 PM

Originally Posted By: Jules_X
I almost finished Mafia prince and it's pretty good. Leonetti reveals alot of details he didn't in his interviews. Yep, he calls Joey Marlino a punk and a no good kid. Read Blood & honor a couple of years ago and I think Caramandi said Leonetti actually wanted to kill Salvie too. In Mafia Prince he's claiming he loved salvie and that that killing was the start of the downward spiral of the Philly LCN.

Leonetti probably acted as IF he wanted to kill Salvie. He couldn't risk anything else around Scarfo. Scarfo would kill him if Leonetti went around telling people like Caramandi that he really didn't want to kill Salvie.

That said, who knows what he really wanted...
Posted By: LCN1987

Re: Phil Leonetti - 04/06/13 12:11 PM

Originally Posted By: streetbossliborio
as if leonetti can call merlino a punk. leonetti was out of the game by his 30s. merlino's been there up until now in his 50's. and how can he call him a kid theres less than 8 yrs between them. merlino is a gangster thru and thru. no chance of him ratting. and he was a boss. he wont care about some old timeers like grande and narducci. he still carries a lot of weight doubt they do. leonetti u cheeky punk, shouldnt even have an opinion on those guys he is dirt on their shoes. leonetti come up on scarfo's back. merlino warred to be there.

Merlino was a thug, not Cosa Nostra. Ralph Natale wasn't even made and he was the boss at one point with Merlino's approval! Merlino would've never come up if it wasn't for how the Scarfo regime ended because both Scarfo and Leonetti hated that kid, and would've clipped him eventually.
Posted By: southend

Re: Phil Leonetti - 04/06/13 12:16 PM

Originally Posted By: LCN1987
Originally Posted By: Jules_X
I almost finished Mafia prince and it's pretty good. Leonetti reveals alot of details he didn't in his interviews. Yep, he calls Joey Marlino a punk and a no good kid. Read Blood & honor a couple of years ago and I think Caramandi said Leonetti actually wanted to kill Salvie too. In Mafia Prince he's claiming he loved salvie and that that killing was the start of the downward spiral of the Philly LCN.

Leonetti probably acted as IF he wanted to kill Salvie. He couldn't risk anything else around Scarfo. Scarfo would kill him if Leonetti went around telling people like Caramandi that he really didn't want to kill Salvie.

That said, who knows what he really wanted...


In Blood&Honor Phil was supposedly really messed up over the contract on Salvie but after so many failed attempts he just wanted to get it over with
Posted By: LCN1987

Re: Phil Leonetti - 04/06/13 12:32 PM

Personally, I think he didn't want to hit Salvie. He said so himself in Mafia Prince and as you said, in Blood & Honor. Nobody wanted to disagree with Scarfo. Like Caramandi said, if he had the opportunity to warn Salvie, he'd go out guns blazing after Scarfo, but I think both Joe Punge and Leonetti knew that Scarfo would prevail in the end as whacking a boss was a death sentence and Scarfo had the backing of New York. I think Salvie was done either way, but it was a blow for them. What a capo he was.
Posted By: Serpiente

Re: Phil Leonetti - 07/28/13 01:47 AM

phil never said anything about lansky all the years i was around him.But all the other stuff he talked about.
Posted By: Serpiente

Re: Phil Leonetti - 08/04/13 01:47 PM

Originally Posted By: Five_Felonies
seems like even with the ability for turncoats like to live out in the open today, phil might be one of the few still in danger. people often talk about the mob not risking the heat by going after witnesses after the damage is already done, but people seem to forget how much damage he did. even though the bull quickly outdid him as a rat, the case can be made that phil caused more damage, which i believe he did. with some of the old time scarfo guys getting out soon, and as long as scarfo sr stil has a breath left in him, i believe that given the chance, somebody would snuff him out in a second, regardless of consequences, not that i think they will ever get the shot though.
Posted By: Serpiente

Re: Phil Leonetti - 08/04/13 01:54 PM

Yes about the guys getting out they are r a bad bunch.But the other ones with real power and cash to get him is the {westside}they are still ready to hit him for Gigante thay still love that guy and will get phil with a phone call.So to speak....
Posted By: Beanshooter

Re: Phil Leonetti - 08/04/13 02:40 PM

Who can forget Billy Veasey being shot down before his brother John testified. or Fat Pete Chiodo's sidter shot outside her home because Fat Pete was going to testify. Philly plays by crazy rules. Look at the hit that happened during this last trial. Their defense was the Mob of today was a gentler and less violent one and the hit happens. You can't make this shit up! Phil is a marked man and you are right as long as his Uncle breathes he is plotting revenge.Remember Scarfo sr has the backing of Amuso and the Lucchese. Just my three cents.
Posted By: SonnyBlackstein

Re: Phil Leonetti - 08/04/13 02:53 PM

Amuso's out.

As Serp says its the westside which is the threat.
Posted By: Beanshooter

Re: Phil Leonetti - 08/04/13 02:57 PM

I just think he's more of a Philly Problem. Yeah the westside will get involved if asked, but he's philly's elephant in the room.
Posted By: Serpiente

Re: Phil Leonetti - 08/04/13 03:22 PM

Fat Pete was caso...and the new Philly guys dont give a crap about Phil and if one of these stupid guys wanted to get his botton and took a shot at him the feds my be watching..people think that the mob has stopped wanting to kill rats ,no they know that someone is watching or maybe pic of them doing it.And the old scarfo guys yes they may look to take a shot.These guys do not plan things out and do it where no one can see.pic are being taken all over you cant get away for all this new stuff big bro watching. If they plain it and did it right slow and easy things would be diff.Old days you could go BANG BANG no saw anything now they have a pic from the wendys across the street.
Posted By: Beanshooter

Re: Phil Leonetti - 08/04/13 03:36 PM

Serpiente, Then how come Franzese run around town and Hill used to run around town after cooperating. I know Sammy was on the hit list and had he not been arrested they would have gotten him?
Posted By: Serpiente

Re: Phil Leonetti - 08/04/13 03:42 PM

I have never talked to him or his sons i have met alot of that fam but not them...I am not made i only know what i have over herd thru the years and i mean ,well first time i met hie i was 14 and that was 30 plus years ago...thats met Carmine
Posted By: red

Re: Phil Leonetti - 08/05/13 05:32 AM

Originally Posted By: Serpiente
phil never said anything about lansky all the years i was around him.But all the other stuff he talked about.
exactly serpiente your the voice of reason.
Posted By: red

Re: Phil Leonetti - 08/05/13 09:08 PM

chuckle! remember those days scarfo and his temper tantrums directed at his nephew. one day nicky flew into rage against phil, people are gonna say that man is not a man of his word (referring to phil) and if he's not a man of his word than well! that must mean that his uncle is not a man of his word too. do you want people to say that I am not a man of my word. scarfo would just start yelling phil was like a woman just sit there and take it all in. hahaha memories.
Posted By: bobbytran

Re: Phil Leonetti - 08/05/13 11:07 PM

Red or Serpinete how close to other Philly guys like Testa, Pungitore and that crew were you guys?
Posted By: Serpiente

Re: Phil Leonetti - 08/05/13 11:32 PM

Originally Posted By: bobbytran
Red or Serpinete how close to other Philly guys like Testa, Pungitore and that crew were you guys?
I did not get involved in oc stuff ,I did her lots but kept my mouth and eyes and ear shut or i guess u know...Philly guys came down, some more than others,the only one i went around with was Lawrence ,u know all were just regular guys,Now Lawrence had Philly guys with him sometimes but we were just looking for girls and fun.If they had to do something else then it was a diff people would just leave ..Poss not see them for a week ,who knows
Posted By: Serpiente

Re: Phil Leonetti - 08/05/13 11:50 PM

I will tell u something Lawrence was getting paid pretty good ,and then nicky knocked him down he was still used to spending 1000$ per night or more or less but anyway ,he did not stay home so it cost Phil an extra 500$ and me extra 200$ a night till hed started making money again..So it was not always fun .And sr. would do stupid shit like that just to see people hurt..
Posted By: bobbytran

Re: Phil Leonetti - 08/05/13 11:56 PM

I have read from newspaper articles from back during that time period that Lawrence had a nack for violence and temper just like Nicky and Phil, was that the media just hyping things up or is that true?
Posted By: Little_Frankie

Re: Phil Leonetti - 08/05/13 11:57 PM

Serpiente, do you believe Phil when he said he thought about killing his uncle and he wanted out of the life (before being arrested)? Or, do you subscribe to the Tommy Del school of thought that he only wanted out after he got hit with 45 years? Tommy Del claims he was as ruthless as his uncle and the Crow says Phil wanted Salvie killed just as much as his uncle did.

I've always been curious about those points.
Posted By: red

Re: Phil Leonetti - 08/05/13 11:59 PM

answer your question in 3 parts.
1st scarfo was 100% italian he wanted to be the meyer lansky of ac. all he thought about was building and building just like las vegas (look mama what your boy did look at what he built. never did have any problems with nicky cos I kept my nose clean literaly. and I fit into the filosofi of scarfoinc. nicky never touched anyone that fit into his filosofi fuddagetbouit, so I trusted him with my life.
scarfo used say that ppl who made their money in alternative ways could never be trusted cos looking at the business thier dealing in and woise the ppl involved. can two guys that make thier money outside the rules ever be good friends? dunno you tell me, I ask myself the same question.
3rdly I kept a very low profile had very few friends unless nicky said to go eat pasta with them.I kept to myself had a lot work cos nicky was not about bullshit, very few ppl in this world was as dedicated as he was.
Posted By: Serpiente

Re: Phil Leonetti - 08/06/13 12:05 AM

Originally Posted By: Little_Frankie
Serpiente, do you believe Phil when he said he thought about killing his uncle and he wanted out of the life (before being arrested)? Or, do you subscribe to the Tommy Del school of thought that he only wanted out after he got hit with 45 years? Tommy Del claims he was as ruthless as his uncle and the Crow says Phil wanted Salvie killed just as much as his uncle did.

I've always been curious about those points.
All the above, think what u would do...and yes he wanted to kill him ..He did not have to say it you could see it when sr was in fla.or was locked up it was a nice fam sr did not have to kill the way he did .he could have made a couple guys disapear and most would fall in line ,He started it and ruined it..Phil could of run it before the sal hit .and yes 45 years and you have a son and it is all gone to shit anyway..all the above
Posted By: Serpiente

Re: Phil Leonetti - 08/06/13 12:15 AM

Originally Posted By: Little_Frankie
Serpiente, do you believe Phil when he said he thought about killing his uncle and he wanted out of the life (before being arrested)? Or, do you subscribe to the Tommy Del school of thought that he only wanted out after he got hit with 45 years? Tommy Del claims he was as ruthless as his uncle and the Crow says Phil wanted Salvie killed just as much as his uncle did.

I've always been curious about those points.
THe house and all that lived in hated sr.little nicky not as the others,I hate to say his mom had a big problem with him ,but i think she was the only one that did not fear him....that house was hell for all..
Posted By: red

Re: Phil Leonetti - 08/06/13 12:17 AM

Having a real bad day this last post, made me cry soo hard I can't stop crying. I miss those days so bad made so much money! choking on tears. please young guys I am over 80 lived my life peace of advice stay the fuck away from certain ethnities stay 100% italian. there's no hope in dope.
Red
Posted By: serpico

Re: Phil Leonetti - 08/06/13 02:08 AM

hey Red you know else is a siggy rudy gioliani http://www.sicilianculture.com/people/giuliani.htm he sold out his people for power. I'm 100% Italian from NYC, I read that Guiliani charged the president of Mexico 10 million dollars for a 1 hour consultation on how to combat oc. Like you said money and treason!
Posted By: Serpiente

Re: Phil Leonetti - 08/06/13 02:14 AM

OOOOOOOOOOOO BOY
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