Does Joey Merlino have the final say in Philly?

So I ran this poll on my site www.fivefamiliesnyc.com, check out the results below:

Yes - 275 (61%)
No - 103 (22%)
He should leave the life while he can - 72 (16%)
Total votes: 450

I concur with the Yes crew and believe Skinny Joey has the final say in Philly through his buddies like Mazzone, Chang, etc.

What do you guys think?

I've seen nothing (yet) to suggest he could overrule Ligambi. People are always so eager to crown a new king.

There is no concrete evidence yet, but it very well could be true if Merlino wants to step up and be the lightning rod for the feds I don't think amyone in the organization will disapprove and plus he is in Florida so he would't have direct control

With Ligambi's people in jail, I believe Merlino does. There was never tention between those two anyway and with Merlino being boss prior and Mazzone back on the street I believe he and his guys do have final say. The only "evidence" really that would lead some to believe he does is the tape with Mazzone talking loudly with Phil Ligambi. But that really doesn't prove anything. I just think its the natural course for these guys.

i dont think that it would be far fetched at all to believe that he might have the final say from florida on certain things, although being so far away means somebody else obviously makes the day to day calls. when a small family like philly loses most of the top rank administration its much easier to restructure things as there are less factions to negotiate with, alot different than say one of the five families as they are made up of many powerful groups or factions that have different interests which could lead to more conflict. this is just my opinion and not fact but i think things will be alot more defined there in the next 6 months.

People forget that Merlino was acting boss before he went away. Ligambi is the official boss. And there really isn't a Ligambi faction or Merlino faction. They're both from the same group. Merlino would be the obvious one to take over - A) if he wants to; and B) however much time Ligambi does, but there's no point in considering it as fact until it happens.

ligambi referenced him on that wiretap in asymbolic kind of way. everyone knows who has the power but he just says that to take heat off himself. to put it in lehmann's terms its like the way tony soprano keeps references jr as the boss of this family to every1 when every1 knows this is bs.

I'm not sure what you're saying exactly but, since those tapes came out, the feds now have enough reason to believe Merlino was the official boss all along and Ligambi was acting boss. So, in answer to the original question that started this thread, yes, Merlino appears to have the final say. But Ligambi obviously had a lot of authority; including to hold off making guys Merlino wanted until Merlino got out of prison and could make them himself.

only 1 wiretap in a decade referring to this? im v skeptical about it. i believe he's just saying that to deflect heat. after a decade merlino is unlikely to be in any real power in my opinion but who knows.. theres no way he could come back and rule - would be a media circus. suprised a movie hasnt come out about him actually

Skinny Joey is still it. He is just applying some of the Machiavellian principles now, finally. imo

Guess the almighty feds had that one wrong uh ivey? You seemed pretty sure of yourself when I said I thought merlino had final say

It's an interesting question, we haven't heard about Philly guys being seen in Florida and my guess is he is being closely watched down there. He also seemed to get in and out of town petty quick when his dad passed rather than hanging around for a few days to lay some alliances down.

Joe could have just been laying blame/responsibility in that wire taped conversation or using it as an excuse to not make the guys supposedly Joey wanted made..

I think it was a simple arraignment. Ligambi was given complete control until Merlino got out of prison. Hence him putting off making those guys and letting Merlino do it. It fits with Ligambi's personality as a low key guy.

I don't think we will ever really know. Speculating only gets you so far, unless Joey gets indicted or something it's pretty unclear. To me anyway

Street Guys: 1

Google Guys: 0

Sorry, Ivy. But I know you can take a joke .

Ever?

You'll know as soon as someone gets arrested for it. And someone always gets arrested for it.

You guys know I don't follow Philly too closely, but I have to believe it's Merlino.

He's the right age. He had the title before he went away. He did the time like a man. And from what I understand, he still has a crew of crazies loyal to him.

And most importantly, having the job apparently means something to him. I don't think it does to Ligambi. He'd probably trade it in a minute if it meant beating his current case.

Then again what is there left to lead for Joey? Sure he's more discreet now, but I believe that once damion or nicodemo flips its over. And it will happen, this day and age someone's going to flip. Only a matter of time, and I'm no expert or tell all on this shit, but I believe a storms going to hit south Philly soon.

Yes, I can take a joke. But I would point out a couple things.

First, the guys who were saying Merlino was still the boss didn't know that. It was a speculation on their part that ended up being right for once. Even a blind man is going to hit the bulls eye sooner or later.

Second, consider the fact that we wouldn't even know Merlino was the boss if it wasn't for the FBI. They received new information, they released it, and now we know. So people can hardly use this as a reason to criticize the feds, especially considering it's very much the exception to the rule.

Street guys: 1

Google guys: 1

Tied up

How do you know it was speculation on their part?? YOU DON'T KNOW THESE PEOPLE!! OR WHAT THEY KNOW! I find it hilarious that you try to say if it wasn't for the FBI we wouldn't know Merlino was the boss. Just becasue you and the FBI didn't say so until recently. You and the FBI got it wrong and now your making excuses. Your a walking contradiction.

Spmob is the best Philly poster.

My man Dicknose is technically from the Philly suburbs. Plus, he's a pazzo. But I love him anyway.

Oh, and that guy 22 is great, too. But I think he's a Florida guy now.

Ivy had a Philly cheesesteak once. And he has a picture of Will Smith up on his wall. And he does the Carlton dance like nobody's business!

And don't get me wrong. I learned a lot from you along the way due to your research and we need great posters like you on these forums. And I have never said this to you before so don't come off all crazy. You live in Utah. There are going to be some things you just don't know or understand and thats fine. I know to not listen to everything I hear in South Philly. I take what I know, what I hear and what I read and form my own opinions. Not everything you read is true pal, from the FBI or otherwise.

I love your posts. Your one of the only reasons I been coming back here lately. You know how to lighten the mood. And you know your shit.

That's honestly what I aim for, Buddy. It's possible to be funny without being mean, starting a fight, and ruining an entire thread for the rest of the board.

Hey Pizzaboy I just saw that,thanks man I like that.

So how is the Philly family here in 2013? I'm sure they don't have their hands in near as much as even the lowly Colombo's in NY but would they be comparable to Chicago?

They have approximately 50 made guys, divided into three geographical groups in order of size Philly, South Nj, and North Nj , I'd define them as the most "Visible" of the families outside NY

pretty accurate, but i believe they have 2 crews in philly, one exclusively in the city itself, and the other with some stuff also going on in the surrounding counties, primarily bucks and montgomery.

Interesting. So I wonder like in North Jersey how they split up the rackets between Philly, the NY families that have NJ crews (Genovese comes to mind) and the Decavalcantes.

It's common sense. Somebody who is so "hooked in" they they knew Merlino was the official boss - something the FBI didn't know - isn't going to be posting away on internet forums. Some people were throwing darts in the dark and one of them happened to hit. These guys get a million things wrong but never bring it up afterward. They get one thing right and they think it sets up their reputation for life here on the forums.



The Philadelphia family's North Jersey crew is basically a gambling operation. Only a few soldiers still left. The DeCavalcantes have traditionally operated within their own narrow scope involving the Laborers Union and the construction industry. Pretty much everything else is the NY families, especially the Genovese family.

Damn Genovese Family This Genovese Family That Genovese Family My Ass

As always, thanks for the input, DN.

Hahahahaa! PizzaBoy is nutz. Haaha!

Excellent site D.D.

if joe had final say how come uncle joe didn't do wat he wanted will never know. the guys merlino wanted made, ligambi would be dead in the 80tys. scarfo had unioins no other philly boss came close give scarfo that, the Genovese may have schooled him.fat tony. shit I wish I knew a thing about conctrete. spell check

You really are like talking to a brick wall. I can't believe someone with such high moral values is such a know it all. You don't have to be "hooked in". Common sense my ass. How are you so sure that someone with knowledge on the topic wouldn't post to an internet forum? You couldn't know that. And this topic has come up before so its not like we were talking about something new. Your just upset that you got it wrong. Your head is so far up the Feds ass that you would need a pair of clamps, some lube and a vice grips to get you out. Everyone IN South Philly knew that Joey was the boss before he went away. It wasn't until after Joey went away that it got cloudy. And lets get something straight. YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE WORRIED ABOUT THEIR MOB INTERNET FORUM REPUTATION! You cream over it. I am glad your getting off somehow. That shit gets backed up.

These concrete statement you put out there come off condescending. I didn't see you posting any "I got it wrong threads". You may have admitted it once it got brought up but you didn't admit it first so don't come on here saying people don't admit when there wrong because you would be what they call a hypocrite sir.

IVY on a serious note your not allowed to jerkoff right?

Clear the pipe keep the sludge moving....

Recently, I read an older article that tells how Chuckie Merlino brought Joe Ligambi into the fold. Uncle Joe was good at handicapping and became a bookie under Chuckies flag. Over time, Joey Merlino and Ligambi became very close. Ligambi became a surrogate father figure to Joey. Hence the nickname, 'Uncle Joe'. IMO, the two Joes have an arrangement/understanding in regards to the management of the family. The specific nature of the arrangement can only be speculated by us. There are no outward signs of problems between the two Joes.

Do I seem upset? You're the one who's apparently been steaming about this. I'm content to go with the feds virtually all the time. You know why? Because, when all is said and done, I know they'll get it right the vast majority of the time. Far more than all the so called internet insiders combined.

The posters on the forums who claim inside knowledge are a dime a dozen. There's actually two groups. The first group are complete bullshitters. They know nothing but pretend like they're in the know. The second group is trickier. They are in a position to hear certain things, maybe they know certain people, and do have valid things to pass on. But many in this group routinely go beyond what they really know; i.e. passing off their own opinion as inside information. If they were always on the level, I'd give them more credibility. But their ego usually gets the best of them and they can't help but exaggerate their knowledge.

If people want to be given credit for what they knew, when they knew it, here's what they can do. They can explain exactly how they know it. I'm talking about actually name the names and everything. And they can maintain that position consistently until they are eventually proven right. But this never happens. These people always act like there's something keeping them from naming names, like some internet code of Omerta they have to follow. As if anybody would give a rat's what they posted here and as if it would have any effect in the real world. The truth is, they throw out their hunches, but don't want to name names because they're really don't know and want to have room to change their story around if need be.

And let me add that I'm pretty much the last person who cares about their reputation, at least in the way you mean. Most people recognize that I do my homework. But if I really gave a damn about what people think of me, I wouldn't have such a fan club over on the RD. Heck, I've got people stalking me here from other forums they love me so much.



It seems what will give you some sort of satisfaction and peace of mind is if I say that I was wrong. Or, to be more specific, say the feds were wrong. And I already have. I've said that this was one of the few times they've gotten something wrong like this. The other stand out one being, of course, Chin and Fat Tony.

But you say "all of South Philly knew Joey was the boss." It's easy to claim that. Especially after the FBI, who you criticize, verified it. But how did you know beforehand? Don't just give me stupid, baseless claims like "all of South Philly knew." Explain to me exactly how you knew this. Who told you. And how did they know, i.e. who told them? See, the problem is you expect me to just take your word for it, as if we're not all just faceless posters on an internet forum.

I'm pretty sure he's called uncle Joe because he's Borgesi's uncle.

Really Ted? I didn't knowt that

DUH!!!

Skinny Joey is still the boss guys...

Ivey, Joey Merlino's sister could log on to this forum and you would still give her shit. Im not a anti FBI guy, I just can't stand how you discredit people and pat yourself on the back. Your life is based on a google search. You can research and research all you want but you just dont get how the neighborhood works and thats my fault to think that all of a sudden you would. But while you were banging out that book report of yours up there I was having a nice dinner, watched the game, smoked a nice bowl and then got a blow job. Glad you had a nice night as well.

When have I ever patted myself on the back? You keep accusing me of stuff I don't do. I always defer to the FBI. Not myself.

And you can stuff that "neighborhood" bullshit where the sun doesn't shine. I'm so damn sick of hearing that crap. You know damn well that you and everyone else are just as dependent on public sources of information as the rest of us. Simply living in an area doesn't automatically make one privy to the inner workings of the local mob family. And it's time for people to quit pretending like it does.

And why add that last part? What are you trying to prove? I couldn't care what you do with your personal time. Just don't come here and pretend like you knew Merlino was the boss all along after the fact. Now go smoke a bowl and go ask your sister for another BJ.

Got no problem wity you ivy or sp mob none of my buisness on the argument..But Ivy if you are from a certain area yea you have more info and acess to it than others..If im in roxbro and things happen in southphy i do not have acess to it until the guys from that area tell me..Yea im same city but im 8 miles and 30 min away from there..Sorry Ivy but i do think it is a fact living in an area gives you chance for more information than others who dont live it that same exact area..And i hope u wouldnt make fun of me if i was abuseing my sister,i was told here i need some christian mingle....Lol .. where you at Dicknose .. im doing Pleanty Of Fish, and i did some korean massage joint 3 weeks ago...lol

You went out with some bitches and paid for a blowjob

Your beating MY dead horse! Some see it, some don't! However Ivy is from Utah and can't ski! He does like holding poles though!

I've never denied a person living in a certain area may hear certain things, know a guy who knows a guy, etc. But too many people on the forums exaggerate the extent of what they really know. They can't help it. And they end up killing their own credibility. The easiest ones to spot are those who constantly go against the known facts and the only card they have to play is, "I live in _____________, you don't, so you wouldn't understand."

In the present issue, half of South Philly knew Merlino was still the boss? How? Why did this news never get back to the press, let alone law enforcement? Seriously, get the hell out of here with that BS.



To paraphrase Furio, skiing is a stupid fu--ing hobby.

holy....you guys are getting outta control. Hahahaa!

Skinny Joe is up there with the worst bosses in LCN history, on the other hand, Ligambi is clearly a good un, rebuilt the organisation quietly and has had a good run.

If Merlino didn't go to prison back in 99 and was left in charge of things the Philly mob would be virtually extinct, that's pretty obvious. The guy is a moron.

So who the fuck was the boss when merlino got pinched and went away? Who did the FBI even say it was? I wouldn't need to look that up. Thats why you see me posting mainly on philly. And I didn't say half of south philly...i said all. Most knew Merlino was the real Boss even when Ralph was said to be boss. He set Uncle Joe up to take full control until he returned, something went down or have someone run for him. Merlino is a wild card anyway. But thats not the point. Point is...Your a jerk off!

Where did you SP Bonnies? I agree with your point

Apparently Merlino remained official boss after he went to prison and Ligambi was the acting boss. As for you and the rest of South Philly knowing that all along, did the mob send out a memo to everybody or something?

By the way, pal, I went back through all your posts where you mentioned Merlino and/or Ligambi, and you never mentioned Ligambi just being acting boss until after that news came out in April 2012.

lol no i know more about the real philly mob!!! i win
...erm so whats the prize?

Not to b a smart ass to anybody but i think there is only 4 guys left in the philly mob..And like 300{non mob guys} Quietly makin some money flow through numbers,sportsgambling, and some drug dealin..Like i said in another thread wats left to make money not much at all..?Almost gotta sell drugs.. Cant hijack trucks of ciggaretts anymore..not happening..Now hi tech shit like credit card skimmers and some computer stuff..

I never posted about who was boss during merlino trial or after his conviction. Never thought that was a question for debate

You also didn't answer my question. When merlino got locked up . ..who did the FBI have as boss of the philly family?

And thanks for going back and checking on my old posts teach. You have a sickness but search all you want I never said otherwise. Joey was boss when he went away for 14 years

Why wouldn't you think it was a question for debate? Pretty much everybody believed Ligambi was the boss. And various articles over the years, including from Anastasia, said so. But not a peep from you about it...until after the FBI released new info last year. Then, all of the sudden, you and the rest of South Philly knew all along.



When Merlino went to prison, and before that when he was indicted, the FBI had nobody as the official boss; as Natale had flipped and he had been the official boss previously. That's why Merlino was indicted as the acting boss at the time.



I only did so to prove how full of crap you are. You're a textbook example of what I'm always talking about. A local guy from a given area exaggerating the extent of his knowledge. You kill your own credibility.

See this is what you envy. I can do all your same research if I had as many free Friday nights as you. But you will never know or understand the neighborhood. You have never seen a wiseguy only jerked off to them in your dreams. Your a follower who goes by whatever the FEDS (people you don't know) say. You are naive. You have to much trust in the government. Nobody has questioned my credibility because I only post on what I know...Philly. I listen and interject when I can on others. But you on the otherhand feel the need to be Boss Hog of internet forums and people like me are tired of you bullshit.

Why let it bother you spmob? if u know what others dont, be happy that u know more and leave it at that. You dont see me running around saying so and so is the gambino consiglieri, so and sos a rat. If u know for real, no bs, then it shouldnt bother you if someone thinks otherwise. God knows i dont give a shit. Hows that rasberry kush?


I havent "exaggeratted the extent of my knowledge", so as far as i know i guess im still credible to my brudda ivy. Right?

"Ivey, Joey Merlino's sister could log on to this forum and you would still give her shit. Im not a anti FBI guy, I just can't stand how you discredit people and pat yourself on the back. Your life is based on a google search. You can research and research all you want but you just dont get how the neighborhood works and thats my fault to think that all of a sudden you would. But while you were banging out that book report of yours up there I was having a nice dinner, watched the game, smoked a nice bowl and then got a blow job. Glad you had a nice night as well."
LOL
"And why add that last part? What are you trying to prove? I couldn't care what you do with your personal time. Just don't come here and pretend like you knew Merlino was the boss all along after the fact. Now go smoke a bowl and go ask your sister for another BJ."
HAHAHHA. This stuff is priceless. Gives me great entertainment at work.

Here we go again. I'm the bad guy because I call you on your bullshit. The feds are people who don't know? But you do? Even though you didn't say word one about Merlino being the boss until after THE FEDS revealed it? Enough already. You're full of shit and everyone knows it. Living in Philly didn't give you any more insight on this topic than anyone else had. Sorry.



No, I have not seen you exaggerate the extent of your knowledge yet. Though I do wish you'd expound more on certain comments you make.

Has it even been proven that Merlino is boss?

It came out in the Stefanelli tapes, which is the reason the FBI changed it's info.

Ivy,
I am sorry to be an annoyance, I am playing catch up here. Did the fbi release something which showed them changing the info? Something I could find online?

I have to admit i thought Ligambi was the de facto boss, not just an acting one after Merlino got locked up. I was pretty surprised when it came out Merlino still held the official position. I thought it was the best move that family made, putting Ligambi in charge and just sending Merlino's family and later him a nice envelope every month.

But i wasn't living in south philly so i really don't know what the neighborhood guys knew at the time.

Excuse me Ivy, but just because SP might have had knowledge of something doesn't mean he needs to report it here, to you, or anyone else. Maybe he had a reason for not mentioning it or maybe he thought he already had, who knows. Doesn't mean he didn't know about Joey just because he didn't clue you (the forum) in.

Nothing against you, but I laughed at your commnent about his insight. As someone who has lived in Philly all my life it wouldn't surprise me at all if he knew. Not everyone talks about certain things the feds aren't aware of yet, especially on public forums.

If you can't see the inherit problem with somebody not saying Merlino was the real boss for all these years....when everybody including the FBI and George Anastasia thought otherwise...and then says they knew all along AFTER it gets released to the public....there's something wrong with you too. Anyone can see spmob didn't know. He wishes he did. He's acting like he did. But he didn't. If he had reason to not say anything before, why even bring it up now? Answer: He's simply trying to get undeserved credibility. I've seen it probably a hundred times now from various local guys on the forums. They can't help themselves.

Sorry ivy. Internet omerta, you know how that goes.

I actually don't understand all that but whatever.

Would you type the name of every girl youve every fucked online? Coarse not! Its a sense of honor!

Well, that list was be pretty short in my case. And I don't really see the correlation between the two. I honestly don't think whatever anyone posts on these forums is going to have any effect on the real world. The people in question likely won't know, likely wouldn't care, and certainly wouldn't know who's posting about them even if they did find out.

Seems pretty high. 8 seems low, but 50?

Approximately 50 members is what was cited in the 2004 New Jersey OC report.

There's 47 members listed in the most recent chart on the forums. Not all are active and on the street obviously.

Lol at least no one can say u dont have a sense of humor.

Basically, say i say something about someone, and he or one of his friend/family is googling his name and stumbles across my post. Then looks at more of my posts. Anybody who knows me will know my sick sense of humor or my taste in music or beer or weed or watever. Plus the name skinny is a dead give away. Basically there are limits. Imagine the situation is reversed, would you spread gossip on the internet about ur neighbors? Or want them talking about u? I know u dont have a drug dealer or associate with any on a regular basis (not poking fun), but if u did would u post "joe blow has the best weed in utah".

But then again im not trying to pass off all my info as fact to get all of u guys to believe me.

I can email you my list if you like too

I am counting 29. 31 not listed as imprisoned, but Borgesi and Nicodemo are not listed as imprisoned.

29? Not bad. I hope they werent all skanks.

Skinny, yeh if you gotta list message me that would be cool.
"29? Not bad. I hope they werent all skanks."
LOL

If they were criminals, I wouldn't care.



This is a list of total members. Active, inactive, and in prison.


Boss: Joseph "Skinny Joey" Merlino/51
Underboss: Joseph "Uncle Joe" Ligambi/73 (IP)
Consigliere: Steven "Handsome Steve" Mazzone/49

Captains:
Michael "Mikey Lance" Lancellotti/50 (South Philly Crew)
George “Georgie” Borgesi/49 (IP) (South Philly/South Jersey/Bucks County Crew)
Anthony “Tony S/Ants” Staino/55 (IP) - (South Jersey Crew)
Joseph "Scoops" Licata/71 (North Jersey Crew)

Soldiers:
1. Martin "Marty" Angelina/50 (IP/7/11/2015)
2. Gennaro "Joseph Costello" Boccia/61
3. Joseph “Bongs” Bongiovanni/66
4. Damion “Dame” Canalichio/43 (IP)
5. Vincent "Beepsie" Centorino/81
6. John "Johnny Chang" Ciancaglini/57
7. Joseph "Joey Chang" Ciancaglini Jr/54
8. Joseph “Chickie” Ciancaglini Sr/78 (5/04/2015)
9. Martin "Marty Crutch" Curro/59
10. Eric Esposito/42 (UI)
11. Louis "Big Lou" Fazzini/46 (IP)
12. Vincent "Big Vince" Filipelli/60
13. Robert Gentile/76 (UI/IP)
14. Dominic Grande
15. Joseph "Wayne" Grande/53
16. Francis "Faffy" Iannarella/66 (IP/7/8/2016)
17. Charles "Charlie White" Iannece/78
18. Vincent "Vince" Iannece/47
19. Gaeton “Gate/The Big Guy” Lucibello/60 (IP/2/2/2015)
20. Frank Martines/59 (IP/L)
21. Joseph "Mousie" Massimino/63 (IP)
22. Salvatore "Sonny" Mazzone/41
23. Nicholas "Nicky Whip" Milano/52
24. Frank “Windows” Narducci Jr/59
25. Phillip Narducci/50
26. Anthony “Tony Nics” Nicodemo/41 (UI/IP)
27. Nicholas "Nicky O" Oliveri/63
28. Vincent "Al Pajamas" Pagano/83 (IP/9/28/2063)
29. Anthony "Tony Pung" Pungitore Jr/58
30. Joseph "Joey Pung" Pungitore/56
31. Dominic Rugnetta/90
32. Salvatore "Tory" Scafidi/51
33. Nicodemo "Little Nicky" Scarfo/84 (IP/1/05/2033)
34. Antonio “Nino” Sciglitano/84
35. Joseph "Joey Electric" Servidio/
36. Ralph "Junior" Staino/80
37. John Stanfa/72 (IP/L)
38. Joseph “Joey” Stanfa/43
39. Luigi “Gino” Tripodi/75
40. Shawn Vetere/44


It was also reported another guy was made a while back. It's most likely one of these guys...

Anthony "Tony Cujino" Accardo/52
Michael "Mikey" Angelina/47
Antony Borgesi/43
Nicholas "The Hat" Cimino/47
Albert "Ally Lance" Lancelotti/48
Philip "Philly" Ligambi Sr./66

Ofcourse they won't name names as it can jeopardize their own safety. And why implicate people that you know and are, or used to be, friendly with? Why reveal your sources in the first place?

You like that picture man

I honestly don't believe anyone's safety is the least bit in danger by what they post online. That said, while I would like him to expound, a don't mind that Skinny doesn't name names because he doesn't take the approach of expecting everyone to take his word for it. It's the ones that do expect their word to be taken for it that I have a problem with.

Fair enough ivesy

IVY I was under the impresion vetre was not made. By the way thanks for posting that list, very comprehensive including the incative guys, the ones doing serious time, and the ones from scarfo and stanfa factions.

I dont think there are taht many guys over there. Id say 30 on the street tops. Then again, thats just my opinon based on the chart from the 5 families site.

Your wrong, Its at least 50 members,I personally believe there's 5 or 10 more even

http://www.freeuploadshare.com/image/Philadelphia_Cosa_Nostra_Family.jpg
I count 31. Thats including the guys like borgesi ligambi merlino nicodemo who arent on the street in philly

Vetere was made at the same ceremony Bobby Luisi Jr. and Mikey Virgilio were. It was around the time, in the late 1990's, when Natale was busted for parole violation and Merlino became acting boss.



That chart at the link you posted isn't official. It was made from a poster here on this forum; largely from info of other posters. The chart I posted is the most up-to-date, correct chart you'll find. It was done by a former RD poster who has the best research by far. Each one of those names is verified. And again, check out the 2004 New Jersey OC report, which cites approximately 50 members for Philadelphia. Notice that, as well as the chart I posted, are total members. Not just active on the street, which would maybe be half that.

Philly's same as NE, about 30 made guys on the street.

Yeah half of that on the street would be 25-30. Thats not a bad number.

What's Junior Staino up to these days? I never hear about him I thought he was either dead or in prison.

Not even.

Which ones got more Ted? I was under the impression they were in the same boat number wise

I think he died recently.

I meant that neither have 30 active made guys on the street.

From what I can tell Philly is the bigger one of the two, I count 55 with 15 in prison currently, I don't think any of us can say who's active or otherwise however likely it may be so I include them in the total,

How big is Lancelottis crew in South Philly?

philly and N.E are about as close as 2 families can be, both in size and level of activity. without counting, i believe both have around 50 members. N.E may have a few more out on the street right now, with i believe 20-25 in boston, and 7-8 in providence.

I heard that Ralph Staino died in November last year.

Does the 2nd Philly crew (suburban rackets) discussed a couple pages ago operate in Delaware area? Wilmington, etc.

i Doubt somone who has a facebook, is calling any of the shots for a criminal organization.... damnn 2013, we make soo easy for the government to keep tabs on us and invade our privacies.