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Dominick Ragucci or Nicky Guido

Posted By: JCrusher

Dominick Ragucci or Nicky Guido - 10/11/11 12:38 AM

Which murder was most troublesome for people? Both these guys were innocent people who were killed by the mob for mistaken identity. Ragucci happened to park in front of demeo's house during the worst time(cuban crisis) and he was probably scared to death up until he was finally tracked down by roy. Nicky guido was killed on the holiday and he protected his relative while he was killed
Posted By: GaryH

Re: Dominick Ragucci or Nicky Guido - 10/11/11 09:08 PM

I cant believe DeMeo got away with whacking Ragucci like that in broad daylight and he even used his own car to give chase.
According to Albert DeMeo, Roy and his crew went to ground for weeks because of it.
Roy didnt dare go near the Gemini incase someone recognised him, he and Dracula hid out in a safehouse in Manhattan.
Roy also had his car scrapped in the days after the murder incase someone recognised it and because of the bullet holes Dracula had accidentally shot in the floor!

Joey + Anthony did off to California and for a while even Roy didnt know where they were - Albert said that it greatly bothered his father that he didnt know the whereabouts of his 2 best men
Posted By: JCrusher

Re: Dominick Ragucci or Nicky Guido - 10/11/11 09:11 PM

I agree Gary. I know it was 1979 but a high speed chase where one guy is shooting out the window the whole time is odd that nobody got caught. i mean they drove from the north side of LI to the southside and ragucci crashed into another car while roy walked up casually and emptied his gun into him
Posted By: GaryH

Re: Dominick Ragucci or Nicky Guido - 10/11/11 09:28 PM

I'm clutching at straws here but I wonder if anyone has any links to any newspaper articles about the murder?
(I dont suppose on-line archives will go back that far though)
Posted By: JCrusher

Re: Dominick Ragucci or Nicky Guido - 10/11/11 09:42 PM

Good Question. I've been wondering that too. also Chris Rosenberg's murder. since the Cubans made a big deal that it had to be in the papers there must be some articles
Posted By: DJN

Re: Dominick Ragucci or Nicky Guido - 10/13/11 11:19 PM

ragucci ...poor guy must have shet in his pants while fleeing for his life , while guido went quickly and unknowigly !!
Posted By: NickyScarfo

Re: Dominick Ragucci or Nicky Guido - 10/13/11 11:21 PM

Has anyone got a large picture of Anthony Senter and others in that prison band?? I can only find a tiny one!
Posted By: LeroyJones

Re: Dominick Ragucci or Nicky Guido - 10/13/11 11:38 PM

Originally Posted By: NickyScarfo
Has anyone got a large picture of Anthony Senter and others in that prison band?? I can only find a tiny one!


This is the only one i have.

Posted By: JCrusher

Re: Dominick Ragucci or Nicky Guido - 10/14/11 04:33 AM

Imagine a sicko like Senter still gets to enjoy himself in jail after all the shit he did. He is arguably the worst out of the demeo crew which is saying something. Albert demeo said he despised him
Posted By: GaryH

Re: Dominick Ragucci or Nicky Guido - 10/14/11 06:26 PM

Thats Anthony on the far right and Carmine Persico on the drums - who are the other 2 guys?.

Just to pick up on what JCrusher said, the DeMeo crew did some horrible things and Roy was the worst of the bunch in my opinion.
The Gemini twins were his core men and I wonder what things they and Chris got up to that hasnt been revealed.
The DeMeo crew without a doubt also did other things that we dont know about!
Posted By: LeroyJones

Re: Dominick Ragucci or Nicky Guido - 10/14/11 06:42 PM

Originally Posted By: GaryH
Thats Anthony on the far right and Carmine Persico on the drums - who are the other 2 guys?.


On the left holding the mike is Mark Reiter who was a big drug guy with the Gotti crew in Queens. Went down with Gene Gotti and is doing life for being a drug kingpin.

The guy playing guitar is Joseph "J.R." Russo.

Russo is also in this photo with Persico. Russo is the one with the cowboy hat on. Thats Persico riding the mechanical bull. The guy on the far left i believe is Nick Virgilio who was a pal of Nicky Scarfo.


Posted By: NickyScarfo

Re: Dominick Ragucci or Nicky Guido - 10/15/11 04:25 AM

Thanks for posting the pics man.
Posted By: GaryH

Re: Dominick Ragucci or Nicky Guido - 10/15/11 07:26 PM

Thanks Leroy
Posted By: LeroyJones

Re: Dominick Ragucci or Nicky Guido - 10/18/11 06:12 PM

The 2 Nicky Guido's. The one that got murdered is on the left. The one Casso wanted to kill is on the right.



A blurry shot of Guido after he was shot.



Posted By: LeroyJones

Re: Dominick Ragucci or Nicky Guido - 10/18/11 06:14 PM

Dominick Ragucci after getting shot by DeMeo

Posted By: GaryH

Re: Dominick Ragucci or Nicky Guido - 10/18/11 06:54 PM

Poor kid.
I still cant believe DeMeo got away with that in broad daylight and with people around! He was even using his own car!
I know it was 1979 but still........
Posted By: JCrusher

Re: Dominick Ragucci or Nicky Guido - 10/18/11 09:20 PM

Originally Posted By: GaryH
Poor kid.
I still cant believe DeMeo got away with that in broad daylight and with people around! He was even using his own car!
I know it was 1979 but still........

Ya also it was a long chase with bullets flying the whole way. I guess in the 70's the mob could pretty much get away with anything. It wasn't until a few years llater that the gov't got stronger
Posted By: GaryH

Re: Dominick Ragucci or Nicky Guido - 10/19/11 06:00 PM

Hi again JCrusher.

Whats your view on Dracula (cousin Joe).
He dissappeared in 1983.
Albert DeMeo claims he dropped him off at the airport and never heard from him again.
Either he dissappeared into another state and spent the rest of his life in obscurity or he came back to New York where Joey and Anthony caught up with him.
Richie DiNome (Freddies Brother) was found murdered in his home along with a couple of his buddies - probably the handiwork of Joey and Anthony!
Joey and Anthony were a pair of dangerous bastards thats for sure!
Posted By: Tyler_Durden

Re: Dominick Ragucci or Nicky Guido - 10/19/11 06:09 PM

Originally Posted By: JCrusher
Imagine a sicko like Senter still gets to enjoy himself in jail after all the shit he did. He is arguably the worst out of the demeo crew which is saying something. Albert demeo said he despised him

Why is that?
Posted By: GaryH

Re: Dominick Ragucci or Nicky Guido - 10/19/11 06:16 PM

Originally Posted By: Tyler_Durden
Originally Posted By: JCrusher
Imagine a sicko like Senter still gets to enjoy himself in jail after all the shit he did. He is arguably the worst out of the demeo crew which is saying something. Albert demeo said he despised him

Why is that?


Al Demeo said of Senter - "there was something slick and phony about him"
Posted By: LeroyJones

Re: Dominick Ragucci or Nicky Guido - 10/19/11 06:29 PM

Richie DiNome was no innocent bystander. He got clipped by his own "Instant Karma". All the guys around that crew were a bunch of lowlifes who would kill you just for the fun of it.

I forget where i read it (probably in Murder Machine) but those guys would get depressed if they hadn't killed anyone that week. That pretty much tells you what people were dealing with back then.

Posted By: GaryH

Re: Dominick Ragucci or Nicky Guido - 10/19/11 06:39 PM

I agree Leroy.
Vito Arena started avoiding the crew because he was scared that he could be a victim someday.
Vito was no wimp, if he was scared that tells you how nasty this crew was
Posted By: NickyScarfo

Re: Dominick Ragucci or Nicky Guido - 10/19/11 07:07 PM

Yeah a real crew of scum bags, It always stuck with me from Murder Machine when the twins shot that young girl in the car the one who looked like the model Twiggy, that crew killed many innocent people. Some can consider it okay to a degree for mobsters to kill each other but killing innocent people...
Posted By: JCrusher

Re: Dominick Ragucci or Nicky Guido - 10/19/11 08:10 PM

Originally Posted By: GaryH
Hi again JCrusher.

Whats your view on Dracula (cousin Joe).
He dissappeared in 1983.
Albert DeMeo claims he dropped him off at the airport and never heard from him again.
Either he dissappeared into another state and spent the rest of his life in obscurity or he came back to New York where Joey and Anthony caught up with him.
Richie DiNome (Freddies Brother) was found murdered in his home along with a couple of his buddies - probably the handiwork of Joey and Anthony!
Joey and Anthony were a pair of dangerous bastards thats for sure!

Dracula is still a mystery to me. Like you said albert claims he dropped him off and that was it seems legit to me. I dont think there was a real need to kill dracula after roy died especially since he took off. also the other demeo members drifted pff onto the Lucchese family
Posted By: Rille1996

Re: Dominick Ragucci or Nicky Guido - 11/13/13 08:52 PM

Did the Gemini Twins kill a girls? please tell me that story?
Posted By: JoeP

Re: Dominick Ragucci or Nicky Guido - 11/14/13 02:15 PM

Originally Posted By: GaryH
I agree Leroy.
Vito Arena started avoiding the crew because he was scared that he could be a victim someday.
Vito was no wimp, if he was scared that tells you how nasty this crew was


Wasn't arena a closet homo?
Posted By: southend

Re: Dominick Ragucci or Nicky Guido - 11/14/13 02:27 PM

Originally Posted By: Rille1996
Did the Gemini Twins kill a girls? please tell me that story?


Joey and Anthony murdered a young girl named Cherie Golden,19 years old. Then they pulled her pants down. Here's an article about her murder:

One of the most blatant examples of the way women are treated by mobsters is the story of 19-year-old Cherie Golden, a New York woman who made the mistake of working a little too closely with her car thief boyfriend, John Quinn. They both ended up dead after crossing the bloodthirsty and ruthless DeMeo crew and Nino Gaggi, who objected to Quinn's success in competing with their own stolen car ring. In Gaggi's 1985 murder and racketeering trial, star prosecution witness Dominick Montiglio and seven other witnesses testified about how Quinn was marked for death by the Gaggi faction of the Gambino family after he was summoned before a Long Island grand jury.

Convicted car thief Joseph Bennett testified that he was contacted about a week before July 20, 1977, the day Quinn's body was found in a desolate part of Staten Island. The DeMeo crew wanted Bennett to help them take out his cousin.

The price for setting up Quinn would be $20,000, he testified that he was told, if he could lure Golden as well. When asked by prosecutors why the pair had to die, Bennett explained in a matter-of-fact way that there was reason to suspect Quinn was cooperating with authorities.

"John had gone before a Nassau County grand jury and wasn't in jail," said Bennett. "The rule of thumb is that if you weren't in jail you had talked."

Quinn and Golden were shot dead and while Quinn was found dumped near a landfill, dressed in pajamas with his hands tied behind his back, Golden's half-nude body was found jammed underneath the dashboard of a stolen Lincoln Continental near Coney Island in Brooklyn. She had not been sexually assaulted, but testimony revealed that she had been stripped after death to make police think it had been a sexual homicide and thus not likely to be mob connected.

Montiglio testified that Golden's murder had disturbed Gambino family boss Paul Castellano.

"My uncle [Nino Gaggi] was a little perturbed about the girl getting killed," Montiglio said. "Mr. Castellano asked my uncle why this girl Cherie was killed. My uncle told him she was part of the operation with Quinn and something about him going to the law and he had to be taken care of."
Posted By: Rille1996

Re: Dominick Ragucci or Nicky Guido - 11/14/13 03:59 PM

Thanks! i thought that some girl was killed in their crossfire or something!
Posted By: TheGoodRat

Re: Dominick Ragucci or Nicky Guido - 11/15/13 04:07 AM


I would argue that the Scarpa Mary Bari senseless murder is as bad if not worse than that poor kid Nicky Guido...at least the "mob cops" were brought to justice for Nicky (credit Kaplan for feeling some guilt about the whole damn thing)...where is the justice for Mary-a really pathetic situation if you ask me...NYPD should dust off this file and bring someone who was in that social club to justice!
Posted By: jace

Re: Dominick Ragucci or Nicky Guido - 11/15/13 09:17 AM

Originally Posted By: JoeP
Originally Posted By: GaryH
I agree Leroy.
Vito Arena started avoiding the crew because he was scared that he could be a victim someday.
Vito was no wimp, if he was scared that tells you how nasty this crew was


Wasn't arena a closet homo?



He was a homosexual who asked that part of his deal to testify allow him to have his boyfriend with him in prison. The government agreed, and gave him his boyfriend as a cell mate, and I think they were relocated together.
Posted By: jace

Re: Dominick Ragucci or Nicky Guido - 11/15/13 09:19 AM

Were Senter, Testa, or any of the others actual soldiers in the Gambino family, or just asscoiates through Roy DeMeo ?
Posted By: Rille1996

Re: Dominick Ragucci or Nicky Guido - 11/15/13 01:36 PM

asscoiates! but later on Testa and Senter were made in lucchese family.
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