Which Mobster has the Highest Personal body count?

who is the most murderous mobster in American history in your opinion? I don't mean ordering murders I mean personally killing. Many names come to mind, Roy DeMeo, Albert Anastasia, Casso, Scarpa and then you have non-Italian guys like Murder Inc Jewish gangsters, Lepke, Schultz, Strauss etc. There's guys from Chicago under Capone also could be number 1, or it could be a hispanic guy etc etc. What do you think?

This non mobster guy in NY has a large body count.
http://articles.nydailynews.com/2010-03-...ans-elias-colon

Joe barboza use to kill guys for looking at him the wrong way. He killed so many people raymond patriarca sr called for him and told he could never clip another person with out patriarca's okay

Well if you mean participating in murder i would say demeo. demeo usually did murders along with others so i'm not sure if you mean mobsters who kill individually or not.

I mean that he himself was the murderer, not ordering it, planning it etc. I think it could likely be someone from early 20th century, when it was harder to catch murderers.

This is actually a good question. You have to seperate those who ordered or help plan the murders, and the actual executioner. DeMeo killed quite a few with his own hands. Greg Scarpa personally killed a half dozen people we actually know of. A lot of people around Jimmy Burke were killed, but I don't know how often he was doing the killing.

Yeah IMO it could be someone from murder inc, its insane the numbers they talk about, 900+ murders, it could very well be a non-Italian, some Jewish guys were killing a lot for the corporation.

Tommy Pitera killed many, many people. Just as an example that should suggest he killed more than we know of - he was at a crew member's apartment one day, and the crew member's girlfriend was present as well. During the time hanging out, he assassinated the man's girlfriend, with no warning and absolutely no motive. He just did it. Just like that. Lepke Buchalter was really ridiculous. I believe Joe Valachi when he says Lepke and Gurrah Shapiro killed for their own gang, not for The Commission. Lucky Luciano was never violent enough to order really any of those murders.

Machine Gun Jack McGurn might be up there, and later, Chuckie Nicoletti. Ignazio Saietta (basis of Don Fanucci) never had much of his own gang when he was independent, yet frequently committing 'maintenance murders' just to keep the town terrified. He's got to be way up there.

You gotta think with a name like "lord high executioner" Anastasia did many.

back when Sonny Franzese was in his heyday the FBI personally suspected him of being involved in around 50 murders. Mikey mentions it in his book.

[quote=BarrettM]Tommy Pitera killed many, many people. Just as an example that should suggest he killed more than we know of - he was at a crew member's apartment one day, and the crew member's girlfriend was present as well. During the time hanging out, he assassinated the man's girlfriend, with no warning and absolutely no motive. He just did it. Just like that. Lepke Buchalter was really ridiculous. I believe Joe Valachi when he says Lepke and Gurrah Shapiro killed for their own gang, not for The Commission. Lucky Luciano was never violent enough to order really any of those murders.

Barrett are you referring to Frank Gangi and Phyllis Burdi as the crew members apartment Pitera went in and executed his girlfriend?

Ya if he means Phyllis Burdi then there was definetly motive. Tommy blamed Phyllis for his girlfriend dying from an overdose

Exactly... I don't recall them being boyfriend/girlfriend(Burdi & Gangi) just having sex for 2 days. I just wanted to clarify this because, I never heard of Tommy just executing someones girlfriend for no reason.

Mobsters in sicily have body counts like 50-100

Greg "The grim reaper" Scarpa was said to have done alot of "work", while being protected by the FBI.

I dont know how these names couldnt be at the top if you are talking about actually doing the hit. If history is correct then these guys are at the top of the list we are speaking of: (everyone has already said these, just adding a few of my own)

Roy Demao
Tommy Karate
Jimmy Burke
Lefty Ruggerio "I got 26 hits under my belt"
Scarpa SR
Charlie Carnegila
tony Spilatro
Bobby Borrelio
Anthony Capo (admitted to around 15 murders as the trigger man I think for the decavalcantes, not sure though, could be wrong)
Tommy Desimone
Frank Sheehan
Salvie testa

Those are the names I can think of as "trigger men" but im sure im off base on a few. Like Gravano, he says he only pulled the trigger once but pled to 19 murders as the set up guy, so who freakin knows

Oh wait, I forgot Richard " I flew the plane that dropped the first Abomb, Jimmy Hoffa, President Kennedy, took out Nancy Kerrigans knee, bombed the federal building in OKC and flew two planes at once on 9-11 from behind federal prison walls" kuklinski.


how could we forget about that liar?

LMFAO

My opinion is that its either Roy DeMeo or Jimmy Burke.
Flip a coin.
Both guys have many murders "credited" to them and those are just the ones we know about!

There should be a separate category for 'serial killers masquerading as mobsters'. I'm sure a few of these guys could be classified that way.

Id have to say, as far as personally undertaking (and some have been mentioned);
Mad Sam, "Buster from Chicago", some of the guys from the old Outfit crew that was known by some as the Wild Bunch.

Ignazio Saietta, Lepke Buchalter, Roy DeMeo, Greg Scarpa, Tommy Pitera, Gaspipe Casso.

Not American but Escobar was a gangster known to have committed a number of murders.

So far Roy DeMeo seems to be the popular choice for the most murderous guy...
If were talking about ordering whackings there's many candidates, although he probably didn't personally order all of them, under Castellano's reign an insane amount of people were killed in the name of the Gambino family.
You had DeMeo's crew of course, Gravano, Dellacroce etc etc many many killers, were talking in the hundreds probably, between the years 1976-1985.

Sammy the bull gravano killed about 19 people, incluse the wife'brother,and Thomas Pitera was suspected by law enforcement of as many as 60 murders.

Gravano ADMITTED to 19 murders but the real count was no doubt higher.
DeMeo seems to be the number 1 contender so far

yeah i think demeo has this won.

Here are the DeMeo crew-linked murders that were documented over on the Real Deal forum some time ago....



1. Paul Rothenberg (42 years old) (Murdered July 29, 1973)
Motive: Suspected of cooperating with authorities.
Method: Shot two times in back of head.
Murderer: Roy DeMeo (32 years old). Ordered by Anthony Gaggi (47 years old).
Location: Flower Hill, Nassau County.


2. Andrei Katz (22 years old) (Murdered June 13, 1975)
Motive: Cooperating with authorities; testified before Grand Jury.
Method: Stabbed to death; corpse dismembered.
Murderer: Harvey Rosenberg (24 years old).
Accomplices: Roy DeMeo (34 years old), Henry Borelli (27 years old), Anthony Senter (20 years old), Joseph Testa (20 years old), Judith Questal.
Location: Rockaway, Queens.


3. Vito Borelli (Murdered Mid-1975)
Motive: Made insulting remark about Paul Castellano.
Method: Shot to death; corpse dismembered.
Participants: Joseph Massino (32 years old), John Gotti (34 years old), Dominick Napolitano (45 years old), Angelo Ruggiero (34 years old), Frank DeCicco (39 years old), Anthony Rabito (40 years old), Salvatore Vitale (27 years old), Duane Leisenheimer (18 years old), Roy DeMeo (34 years old), others.
Location: Killed in Manhattan. Body dismembered in garage in Queens.


4. Joseph Brocchini (43 years old) (Murdered May 20, 1976)
Motive: Punched Roy DeMeo.
Method: Shot multiple times in back of head.
Murderers: Roy DeMeo (35 years old) and Henry Borelli (27 years old).
Accomplices: Harvey Rosenberg (25 years old), Joseph Testa (21 years old), Anthony Senter (21 years old). Authorized by Anthony Gaggi (50 years old).
Location: Woodside, Queens


5. Vincent Governara (34 years old) (Shot June 12, 1976; Died 1 Week Later)
Motive: Broke Anthony Gaggi’s nose in the late 1960s.
Method: Shot to death.
Murderers: Anthony Gaggi (50 years old) and Roy DeMeo (35 years old).
Accomplices: Dominick Montiglio (28 years old).
Location: Bensonhurst, Brooklyn


6. George Byrum (42 years old) (Murdered July 13, 1976)
Motive: Provided information to thieves that led to Anthony Gaggi’s house being robbed.
Method: Shot in face with .380 handgun. Stabbed in back 11 times. Partially decapitated.
Murderer: Roy DeMeo (35 years old).
Accomplices: Anthony Gaggi (50 years old) and Anthony Plate (63 years old).
Location: Dade County, Florida.


7. Unidentified Victim #1 (Murdered 1976)
Motive: Unknown. Mentioned to Dominick Montiglio by Roy DeMeo.
Method: Likely shot to death.
Participants: Roy DeMeo (35 years old), others.
Location: Body buried in Brooklyn.


8. Unidentified Victim #2 (Murdered 1976)
Motive: Unknown. Mentioned to Dominick Montiglio by Roy DeMeo.
Method: Likely shot to death.
Participants: Roy DeMeo (35 years old), others.
Location: Body buried in Brooklyn.


9. Charles/Ruby Stein (61 years old) (Murdered May 15, 1977)
Motive: Killed to erase debts and to take over his loansharking business.
Method: Shot to death with automatic pistol. Corpse dismembered.
Murderer: Edward Grillo (43 years old).
Accomplices: James Coonan (30 years old), William Beattie, Thomas Hess, Richard Ryan, Nicholas Kagabines (46 years old).
Location: Hell’s Kitchen. Disposed of at Ward’s Island.


10. Michael/Mickey Spillane (43 years old) (Murdered May 13, 1977)
Motive: Killed as favor to Irish mobster James Coonan.
Method: Shot five times in arm, stomach, chest and face with two handguns.
Murderers: Roy DeMeo (36 years old) and Edward Grillo (43 years old).
Accomplices: Harvey Rosenberg (26 years old), Henry Borelli (28 years old), Joseph Testa (22 years old), Anthony Senter (22 years old).
Location: Woodside, Queens.


11. Jerome Hofaker (23 years old) (Murdered June 1977)
Motive: Involved in altercation with Dennis Testa.
Method: Shot to death.
Participants: Anthony Senter (22 years old) and Joseph Testa (22 years old).
Location: Canarsie, Brooklyn.


12. Johnathan Quinn (34 years old) (Murdered July 20, 1977)
Motive: Testified before grand jury.
Method: Shot once in back of head with .32 caliber handgun.
Murderer: Peter LaFroscia (28 years old).
Accomplices: Roy DeMeo (36 years old), Henry Borelli (29 years old), Harvey Rosenberg (26 years old), Joseph Testa (22 years old), Anthony Senter (22 years old).
Location: Murdered in Flatlands, Brooklyn. Body left in Staten Island.


13. Cherie Golden (19 years old) (Murdered July 20, 1977)
Motive: Had knowledge of Quinn/DeMeo activities.
Method: Shot 3 times in head with .38 caliber handgun.
Murderer: Anthony Senter (22 years old).
Accomplices: Joseph Testa (22 years old), Roy DeMeo (36 years old), Peter LaFroscia (28 years old), Henry Borelli (29 years old), Harvey Rosenberg (26 years old).
Location: Murdered in Flatlands, Brooklyn. Body found in Gerritsen Beach, Brooklyn.


14. Daniel Conti (28 years old) (Murdered October 29, 1977)
Motive: Killed after botched hijacking; seen as weak link and potential cooperator.
Method: Shot to death.
Participants: Roy DeMeo (37 years old), Peter LaFroscia (28 years old), others.
Location: Body found in Lincoln Terrace Park, Brooklyn. Believed shot elsewhere.


15. John Costello (20 years old) (Murdered November 1977)
Motive: Killed after botched hijacking; seen as weak link and potential cooperator.
Method: Shot to death.
Participants: Roy DeMeo (37 years old), Peter LaFroscia (28 years old), others.
Location: Brooklyn.


16. Patrick Presenzano/Presinzano (35 years old) (Murdered March 23, 1978)
Motive: Stole jewelry from DeMeo acquaintance, refused to return it.
Method: Beaten then shot to death. Throat slit.
Participants: Roy DeMeo (37 years old), others.
Location: Sheepshead Bay, Brooklyn.


17. Michael Mandelino (37 years old) (Murdered March 19, 1978)
Motive: Suspected of setting up DeMeo Crew member Peter LaFroscia for robbery.
Method: Shot multiple times in head.
Participants: Unknown.
Location: Body found on Hinsdale Street in Flatlands, Brooklyn.


18. Nino Martini (38 years old) (Murdered March 19, 1978)
Motive: Present with Mandelino.
Method: Shot multiple times in head.
Participants: Unknown.
Location: Body found on Hinsdale Street in Flatlands, Brooklyn.


19. Kevin Guelli (Murdered April/May of 1978)
Motive: Attempted to scam Harvey Rosenberg out of $10,000 worth of cocaine.
Method: Shot to death.
Participants: Harvey Rosenberg (27 years old), others.
Location: Canarsie, Brooklyn.


20. Gary Gardine (25 years old) (Murdered April/May of 1978)
Motive: Attempted to scam Harvey Rosenberg out of 10 pounds of marijuana.
Method: Shot to death. Corpse burned.
Participants: Likely Harvey Rosenberg (27 years old), others.
Location: Canarsie, Brooklyn.


21. Michael DiCarlo (Murdered May 16, 1978)
Motive: Molested nephew of Lucchese associate.
Method: Blunt force trauma to the head after being shot, stabbed, beaten and sodomized. Corpse dismembered.
Murderer: Anthony Senter (23 years old).
Accomplices: Roy DeMeo (37 years old), Joseph Guglielmo (50 years old), Henry Borelli (29 years old), Joseph Testa (23 years old), Harvey Rosenberg (27 years old).
Location: Flatlands, Brooklyn.


22. Joseph Scorney (28 years old) (Murdered September 28, 1978)
Motive: Refused to join DeMeo’s auto-theft operation. Threatened Richard DiNome's children.
Method: Blunt force trauma to the head after being shot.
Murderers: Vito Arena (36 years old) and Richard DiNome (24 years old).
Accomplices: Ronald Turekian (29 years old), Frederick DiNome (37 years old).
Location: Autoshop owned by Richard DiNome in Canarsie, Brooklyn.


23. Edward Daniel Grillo (44 years old) (Murdered November 14, 1978)
Motive: Fell into heavy debt, seen as weak and potential cooperator.
Method: Shot to death. Corpse dismembered.
Participants: Likely Roy DeMeo (38 years old), Harvey Rosenberg (28 years old), Joseph Testa (23 years old), Anthony Senter (23 years old).
Location: Gemini Apartment in Flatlands, Brooklyn.


24. Unidentified Victim #3 (Murdered Early 1979)
Motive: Allegedly described to Arena as "favor for someone in Manhattan”.
Method: Unknown. Allegedly witnessed at the Gemini apartment by Vito Arena.
Participants: Roy DeMeo (38 years old), others.
Location: Gemini Apartment in Flatlands, Brooklyn.


25. Unidentified Victim #4 (Murdered Early 1979)
Motive: Allegedly described to Arena as "favor for someone in Manhattan”.
Method: Unknown. Allegedly witnessed at the Gemini apartment by Vito Arena.
Participants: Roy DeMeo (38 years old), others.
Location: Gemini Apartment in Flatlands, Brooklyn.


26. Unidentified Victim #5 (Murdered February 2, 1979)
Motive: Insulted Roy DeMeo.
Method: Shot to death. Allegedly witnessed outside Gemini Lounge by Dominick Montiglio.
Murderer: Roy DeMeo (38 years old).
Location: Flatlands, Brooklyn.


27. Peter Waring (Murdered February 7, 1979)
Motive: Suspected of being police informant.
Method: Likely Shot to Death. Corpse dismembered.
Participants: Likely Roy DeMeo (38 years old), Harvey Rosenberg (28 years old), others.
Location: Gemini Lounge in Flatlands, Brooklyn.


28. Scott Carfaro (Murdered Early 1979)
Motive: Acquitted of rape; victim’s family members contracted DeMeo Crew.
Method: Unknown.
Participants: Likely Roy DeMeo (38 years old), others.
Location: Unknown.


29. Frederick T.odaro (60 years old) (Murdered February 19, 1979)
Motive: Contract Murder; killed so his nephew, Douglas Rega (29 years old), could take over business property.
Method: Shot and stabbed to death. Corpse dismembered.
Murderer: Roy DeMeo (38 years old) and Harvey Rosenberg (28 years old).
Accomplices: Joseph Testa (23 years old), Anthony Senter (23 years old), Frederick DiNome (38 years old).
Location: Gemini Apartment in Flatlands, Brooklyn.


30. Charles Padnick (Murdered March 17, 1979)
Motive: Murdered in a cocaine rip-off by the Crew.
Method: Likely shot to death then dismembered.
Participants: Harvey Rosenberg (28 years old), Roy DeMeo (38 years old), others.
Location: Likely the Gemini Lounge in Flatlands, Brooklyn.


31. William Serrano (Murdered March 17, 1979)
Motive: Murdered in a cocaine rip-off by the Crew.
Method: Likely shot to death then dismembered.
Participants: Harvey Rosenberg (28 years old), Roy DeMeo (38 years old), others.
Location: Likely the Gemini Lounge in Flatlands, Brooklyn.


32. Unidentified associate of Serrano (Murdered March 17, 1979)
Motive: Murdered in a cocaine rip-off by the Crew.
Method: Likely shot to death then dismembered.
Participants: Harvey Rosenberg (28 years old), Roy DeMeo (38 years old), others.
Location: Likely the Gemini Lounge in Flatlands, Brooklyn.


33. Unidentified female associate of Serrano (Murdered March 17, 1979)
Motive: Murdered in a cocaine rip-off by the Crew.
Method: Likely shot to death then dismembered.
Participants: Harvey Rosenberg (28 years old), Roy DeMeo (38 years old), others.
Location: Likely the Gemini Lounge in Flatlands, Brooklyn.


34. Jamie Padnick (Murdered March 18, 1979)
Motive: Went to New York to investigate father’s disappearance; knew of cocaine deal.
Method: Likely shot to death then dismembered.
Participants: Harvey Rosenberg (28 years old), Roy DeMeo (38 years old), others.
Location: Likely the Gemini Lounge in Flatlands, Brooklyn.


35. Dominick Ragucci (18 years old) (Murdered April 19, 1979)
Motive: Mistaken for hitman by Roy DeMeo.
Method: Shot seven times at close range with handgun.
Murderer: Roy DeMeo (38 years old).
Accomplices: Frederick DiNome (38 years old), Joseph Guglielmo (51 years old).
Location: Route 101 in Suffolk County, Long Island.


36. Harvey/Chris Rosenberg (28 years old) (Murdered May 11, 1979)
Motive: Murdered to avoid war between Gambinos and Colombians.
Method: Shot four times in head.
Murderers: Roy DeMeo (38 years old) and Anthony Senter (24 years old).
Accomplices: Joseph Testa (24 years old), Henry Borelli (30 years old), Frederick DiNome (38 years old).
Location: Gemini Lounge. Body dumped at Gateway National Recreation Area, Brooklyn.


37. James Eppolito (62 years old) (Murdered October 1, 1979)
Motive: Accused Roy and Anthony Gaggi of being drug dealers.
Method: Shot multiple times in head with handgun.
Murderer: Roy DeMeo (39 years old).
Accomplice: Anthony Gaggi (54 years old).
Location: Coney Island, Brooklyn.


38. James Eppolito, Jr. (33 years old) (Murdered October 1, 1979)
Motive: Accused Roy and Anthony Gaggi of being drug dealers.
Method: Shot multiple times in head with handgun.
Murderer: Anthony Gaggi (54 years old).
Accomplice: Roy DeMeo (39 years old).
Location: Coney Island, Brooklyn.


39. Khaled Daoud (Murdered October 12, 1979)
Motive: Threatened to inform police about DeMeo auto-theft operation.
Method: Shot to death. Corpse dismembered.
Murderers: Roy DeMeo (39 years old) and Henry Borelli (31 years old).
Accomplices: Frederick DiNome (38 years old), Vito Arena (37 years old), Joseph Testa (24 years old), Anthony Senter (24 years old).
Location: Frederick DiNome’s bodyshop on Glenwood Road in Flatlands, Brooklyn.


40. Ronald Falcaro (29 years old) (Murdered October 12, 1979)
Motive: Worked with Daoud, knew of DeMeo car operation.
Method: Shot to death. Corpse dismembered.
Murderer: Henry Borelli (31 years old).
Accomplices: Roy DeMeo (39 years old), Frederick DiNome (38 years old), Vito Arena (37 years old), Joseph Testa (24 years old), Anthony Senter (24 years old).
Location: Frederick DiNome’s bodyshop on Glenwood Road in Flatlands, Brooklyn.


41. Joseph Coppolino (39 years old) (Murdered March 7, 1980)
Motive: Suspected of being informant for Narcotics Detectives.
Method: Stabbed to death. Corpse decapitated.
Participants: Roy DeMeo (39 years old), others.
Location: Brooklyn.


42. Patrick Penny (21 years old) (Murdered May 12, 1980)
Motive: Testified against Anthony Gaggi in State murder trial.
Method: Shot nine times in head.
Murderer: Roy DeMeo (39 years old).
Accomplices: Vito Arena (38 years old), Richard DiNome (25 years old).
Location: Sheepshead Bay, Brooklyn.


43. Charles Mongitore (30 years old) (Murdered June 5, 1980)
Motive: Ignored warnings about testifying against Andrew Mangialino, son of Gambino Soldier Salvatore Mangialino.
Method: Shot fourteen times at close range with handguns. Throat slit.
Murderers: Roy DeMeo (39 years old) and Henry Borelli (31 years old).
Accomplices: Vito Arena (38 years old), Richard DiNome (25 years old), Joseph Testa (25 years old), Anthony Senter (25 years old), Salvatore Mangialino (43 years old).


44. Daniel Scutaro (25 years old) (Murdered June 5, 1980)
Motive: Encountered DeMeo Crew as they were cleaning up after Mongitore shooting.
Method: Shot to death.
Murderers: Roy DeMeo (39 years old) and Henry Borelli (32 years old).
Accomplices: Vito Arena (38 years old), Richard DiNome (25 years old), Joseph Testa (25 years old), Anthony Senter (25 years old), Salvatore Mangialino (43 years old).


45. Frank Amato (Murdered September 20, 1980)
Motive: Ordered by Gambino Boss Paul Castellano.
Method: Shot to death with automatic firearm. Corpse dismembered.
Murderer: Roy DeMeo (40 years old).
Accomplices: Joseph Testa (25 years old), Anthony Senter (25 years old), Frederick DiNome (39 years old), Richard DiNome (26 years old).
Location: Gemini Apartment in Flatlands, Brooklyn. Body dumped in Atlantic Ocean.


46. James Bennett (April 29, 1981)
Motive: Cooperating Witness set to testify against DeMeo Crew member Richard Mastrangelo.
Method: Shot to death by two gunmen.
Participants: Unknown.
Location: Brooklyn.


47. Anthony Romano (64 years old) (Murdered July 4, 1982)
Motive: Suspected of involvement in 1978 robbery of Peter LaFroscia.
Method: Shot to death.
Participants: Roy DeMeo (41 years old), others.
Location: Brooklyn


48. John Romano (Murdered July 4, 1982)
Motive: Suspected of involvement in 1978 robbery of Peter LaFroscia.
Method: Shot to death.
Participants: Roy DeMeo (41 years old), others.
Location: Brooklyn


49. Roy DeMeo (42 years old) (Murdered January 10, 1983)
Motive: Gambino hierarchy feared he would become cooperating witness.
Method: Shot to death.
Participants: Suspected to be Anthony Gaggi (57 years old), Joseph Testa (27 years old) and Anthony Senter (27 years old).
Location: Found in parking lot of Varuna Boat Club in Sheepshead Bay, Brooklyn.


50. Richard DiNome (29 years old) (Murdered February 4, 1984)
Motive: Considered weak and potential cooperating witness.
Method: Shot once in back of head with automatic firearm.
Participants: Likely Joseph Testa (28 years old), Anthony Senter (28 years old), others.
Location: Found in living room of Gravesend, Brooklyn home.


51. John Baida (Murdered February 4, 1984)
Motive: Present at Richard DiNome’s house when hitmen arrived.
Method: Shot once in back of head with automatic firearm.
Participants: Likely Joseph Testa (28 years old), Anthony Senter (28 years old), others.
Location: Gravesend, Brooklyn


52. Frederick Seiden (Murdered February 4, 1984)
Motive: Present at Richard DiNome’s house when hitmen arrived.
Method: Shot twice in head with automatic firearm.
Participants: Likely Joseph Testa (28 years old), Anthony Senter (28 years old), others.
Location: Gravesend, Brooklyn.


Post DeMeo-Crew Murders


53. Vladimir Reznikov (Murdered June 13, 1986)
Motive: Threatened acquaintance of Lucchese Capo Anthony Casso.
Method: Shot multiple times in head.
Murderer: Joseph Testa (31 years old)
Location: Brighton Beach.


54. Nicholas Guido (Murdered December 25, 1986)
Motive: Mistakenly identified as individual involved in attempted hit on Anthony Casso.
Method: Shot four times at close range with handgun.
Murderer: Joseph Testa (31 years old)
Accomplices: Anthony Casso (Ordered Hit); George Zappola (Supervisor of hit).
Location: Brooklyn.


55. Carmine Varriale (Murdered September 3, 1987)
Motive:
Method: Shot multiple times at close range with handgun.
Murderer: Frank Smith.
Accomplices: Joseph Testa (32 years old) (Backup Shooter); Anthony Senter (32 years old) (Backup Shooter); George Zappola (28 years old).


56. Frank Santora (Murdered September 3, 1987)
Motive: Killed alongside Carmine Varriale.
Method: Shot multiple times at close range with handgun.
Murderer: Frank Smith.
Accomplices: Joseph Testa (32 years old) (Backup Shooter); Anthony Senter (32 years old) (Backup Shooter).

good list IVY League. The only thing is Vito Borelli who was murdered by joe Massino and possibly john gotti

Holy hell. And thats just the documented? Sheesh.

Guys as we all know Greg DePalma was in Gaggi's crew. He supposedly got his button in 1977. Does anybody know who he wacked, since he was in Gaggi's violent crew he must have participated in some of the above, no?

not necessarily. I dont know a whole lot about Greg - didn't even know he came up in Gaggi's crew!(never read Making Jack Falcone) but if Gaggi had a team of heavy hitters at his disposal with a tried and true method theres no need to involve someone like Greg in shit like that. Greg could have been more of an earner/moneyman/schemer than a killer. A lot of guys, even some associated with violent crews, have never killed

That list Ivy posted above is great. Imagine what a favor Andrei Katz would have done to the world if that ambush on "Chris" Rosenberg was successful? One could only imagine. The murders that hit me the hardest on that list are the Vincent Guvanara, Nicky Guido, and that poor 18 year old traveling salesman. Jesus...

You guys are forgetting somebody...

Al Capone

The man was ruthless

No matter what the FBI or anybody else says about how many people a guy killed nobody knows for sure.

Back in the 1930's, the Brooklyn DA believed Murder Inc. to be responsible for about 1000 deaths, coast to coast. Others put the estimate between 400 to 700.

Abe Reles was able to recount about 80 plus murders. You had members like Pittsburgh Phil, "Happy" Maione and "Blue Jaw" Magoon etc. who were responsible for quite a few murders. They were not members of Cosa Nostra, but were every bit as ruthless. Personally I believe the Roy Demeo crew was meant to emulate the Murder Inc. gang.

Yeah I'm with you man, I really think there's a good chance it could be a Murder Inc guy, possibly one of the Jewish hit guys. It doesn't have to be an Italian...

Certainly the mobster who killed more people is Giovanni Brusca, here is his testimony:
''I killed Giovanni Falcone. But it was not the first time I had already used the car bomb to kill the judge Rocco Chinnici, and the men of his escort. They are responsible for the kidnapping and death of the young Giuseppe Di Matteo, who was thirteen years old when he was kidnapped and fifteen when he was murdered. I personally ordered and committed murders over 150 . Even today I can not remember them all, one by one, the names of those I killed. Many more than a hundred, certainly less than two hundred. "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giovanni_Brusca

Lo Scannacristiani (spl?) they called the guy, "the killer of christians". He definitely had a lot of hits notched up, and some real messed up ones, too.
Creepy, pudgy and arrested with spaghetti stains on his face and shirt before he flipped, that was the pig that murdered Giovanni Falcone (r.i.p)

He's gotta be up there in terms of number, eh Furio? I think Nicky was talking about mobsters that operated in the US though. Still, I said Escobar, and I reckon Brusca had more hits to his name then him.

Frank Calabrese from the Chicago Outfit seems to have been a guy who killed a good deal of people, often in a very brutal manner. I watched "I Married a Mobster" last weekend, the one about Greg Scarpa, he supposedly killed a cab driver who tried to rape his daughter. Scarpa's daughter is still pretty hot, I was shocked to find out she is 42, and has four kids!

You're right Gerry. Im re-reading "Family Secrets" and between Frank and his brother Nick there's a fair few bodies. Some of those Outfit guys could fill a cemetery by themselves, to steal a quote from Sicilian boss Matteo Messina Dennaro.

This guy makes Roy DeMeo seem like choirboy. Tortured a 13 year old and killed him, than put him in acid? Hard to believe the Italian police agreed to use him as a cooperator. I think the us would even allow this.

EDIT: I don't know what happened. I had a very detailed response written and it double-posted and the response wasn't there, just the quote.

Yep, the Calabrese brothers are some vicious dudes. Not only were they stone cold killers, they were also brutal in the way they killed. Frank Calabrese liked to strangle his victims, then slit their throat from ear to ear, while most mafia guys like to just use the gun.

yeah i think it would be one of riinas hitmen like brusca or greco in the us i would say either anastasia or pitera.

lol

Roy DeMeo did far more than Pitera ever did.

personally?

Yeah I think an FBI made an estimate of 40-50 personally for DeMeo on a docu I saw, that crew itself were probably the most murderous of any family.

thanks for the innfo. u think the gemini twins killed more than demeo

who is that in your pic?

That is boxer Miguel Cotto. Maybe combined they did kill more, I know Henry Borelli was often the shooter in their murders.

Fantastic job on the DeMeo list... great research!

Demeo probably has the highest count. Between the drug trafficking, auto theft ring, contract killing, personal beefs and work for the family there was plenty of possible targets and victims.

Frank Sheeran is probably the guy with the highest body count, if you're counting the guys he killed in the war in addition to his hits. In a particular instance he claims he did 3 sepparate hits in the span of a day. He said in his book he flew to Puerto Rico and 'did what he had to do' on two separate matters, then flew back to Chicago and did another one. A busy man.

A few guys who haven't been mentioned:
-Lefty Ruggiero(27)
-Gerard Pappa(37)
-Mickey Featherstone
-Stevie Flemmi
-Johnny Martorano

How many did Mickey have? Forgot about him...

Just my opinion, but I question the veracity of Sheeran's claims.

i read in a old artticle christie tic was given photo's of the gallos frpm joe profaci to kill them 1 by 1. he went on to have gas pip and lil vic in his crew thats alot of killing. its strange he did 10yrs in prison for rape and still got made and was in high estem with joe profaci weird.

DeMeo's crew was demented, but Brusca made them look like the salvation army.

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Frank Schweihs, Chuckie Nicoletti, Roy Demeo, Pino Greco- trigger guys, but if you mean by ordering murder - Toto Riina, Albert Anastasia, Vito Genovese

Harry Aleman had 13, I believe, that are known.

Capone and Moran together may have biggest body count of any mob was in United States history.

A few guys i think could have killed alot back in the day. Like Anastasia Genovese and maybe even Bugsy siegel but there's obv no way t find out how muchh.

John mortarono from boston brother of mob capo jimmy mortarano in his book hitman and by others testimony he killed more than 40 and thats only in twenty years and ge did it alo.e most of the time

Not true. He was involved in 20 murders.

Holy shit, it seems they must have been knocking off a guy once a week between 1978-1980.

Frank 'Da Nut' Schweihs.

JoeRusso has personal knowledge. Dude has real LCN connections.

Roy DeMeo?

as far as new england goes its definetley joe barboza and john 'the basin street butcher' matarano. in the earlier days flemmi and whitey did alot of hits themselves too.

As for the younger guys in new england it'd be guys like mike prochillo, darin buffalino, gene giangrande, richard devlin, billy angelesco.

I think fat tony salerno as Young man was a hitter

Source?

Think laterally.

Joe Bannana's, Ricca/Accardo.

You're just as responsible for a hit whether you pull the trigger or order the hit.

Maybe more-so.

It says it wiki but I couldn't find any links that supported it. On another note I'm pretty sure that a couple of well known guys were charged with rape or gang rape I just cant think of them now.

Kuklinski

yeah kuklinski is deff up there.. forgot about him the iceman true contract kiler.. u had the money hed do the job.

Wasn't Sonny Franzese caught on a wiretap saying he killed 60 people?

'Trigger' Lee Burke was said to have been a heavy hitter on the west side back in the 50's before he was said to have went laughing to the chair in Sing Sing sometime in the 50's so legend has it. His body count was very high.

Mad Dog Joe Sullivan notched up at least 30 hits according to his own accounts. Once you get to 30-35 you stop counting he says.

I'd say the mob's hired trigger men would have to have notched some of the highest body counts. That's whhat they're payed for, that's what they do. The mob ruled through fear. It was guys lke these that gave the mob the fear it thrived on.

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Sonny count was said in court by the feds in the 1960's

carmine galente had over 6o hits.

I dont know about the us mobsters but im pretty sure orgsnized crime members from Colombia,Italy and Mexico take the spot.

Since people mentioned Escobar. Then I agree with you that he had more hits to his name than he actually killing people. Though Im pretty sure he does more body counts than your average crime boss but not enough to consider him a monster. He was more like Osiel Cardenas(Gulf Cartel boss), he killed and ordering killing to consolidate his power in the U.S. He still runs the Gulf Cartel behind max security prison in Colorado through his attorneys/laeyers and family members. He is the reason the Gulf Cartel are whacking the people that arent following the rules. But before I go into details and derail this thread. Lets leave it for another day. Hmm There are a quite few people that are truly monsters. The Zetas being the most disgusting, there are many myths rumors and conspiracies surrounding former Los Zetad leader Z-40 or going by his real name Miguel Angel Trevino. He has or is responsible for at least 300 innocent people, the 78 migrants of San Fernando(but regional boss 'Ardilla", and others are complicit. But there is a heavily fact that has been heavily supressed by both the media and the government. It all started in the state of Cohuila where one of his subordinates didnt hand 5 million dollars that belong to Z-40 but the guy ran away with the money and to never see Z-40 again to dissapear into the 112,000 million citizen Mexicans. But he forgot that he had family and friends in Cohuila. So in response Z-40 rounded up 80 families totaling 300 people and killed them all almost overnight. I think it was 80 convoy of trucks rounded up the family and friends in a single night and disappear them in the desert almost overnight. Imagine that. Getting all your family.members, friends and everybody you knew shot dead because you stole 5 million from your boss. A human life is worthless(in a good way) but he went overboard with that. And its unfair the story was heavily suppressed and get that monkey away with war crimes. Shame on the Mexican government, the DEA and international press for not publishing that story because of.politic relationships between Mexico and U.S. I'm hoping there is a mounted effort to make this story international and gain internatiol coverage. I dont think people should get away with this stuff no matter the consequences. I just had to get out of my system. I do truly believe Z 40 was the most evil gangster in modern day crime.

I respect gangsters like Tony Tormenta and his security team the Escorpiones with their bravado spirit. His whole security team died fighting the Marines to show how real gangsters should go down. Tony Tormenta and his crew were real bravado men and he went like a real G. Leaving the inocent alone and focusing on drug trafficking. The newer generation of Golfos dont respect the innocents and government,I dlo think there should be a form of respect to the government. About 2 months ago 36 Mexican soldiers were killed in an ambush near Mante-Reynosa highway by Gulf Cartel members(another story heavily suppressed by the Mexican government) and I think it.was the last straw that begin with the internal whackings off the newer generation Golfo.members that dont respect the old ways of.doing things. There is no reason to kill 36 soldiers trying to make.the.streets safer. There is a huge internal war going on in the Gulf Cartel and hopefully the good guys win and are winning.

Hmmm i keep getting.off track but there was an article back that 3.sicarios/gunmen had killed 200 people. There was a gunmen from CJNG that confessed that he personally killed 78 people. But from known drug bosses I think "Ardilla", "Coyote" from Zetas have personaly killed dozens. Also that monster Z-40, I think he said that he couldnt go.to sleep without killing something. I think he started with killing horses then he moved on to killing people. I think he would order his men to kidnap people so he could torture them. What a sick bastard.

Back to the question. Other countries cartels and organizations can't count not even in the same league. I def think that Vito Anastasia got there hands dirty as young guys and also ordered a bunch more when they became powerful. Galante as well but I def think that Roy demeo was personally involved in as many homicides as Gary ridgeway randy kraft or Ted bundy which makes him one of the most prolific serial killers of his day

of course demeo had a high bodycount, if you believe klukinski {he says he killed a hundred} then he would take the cake.however many of his hits are disputed. many on this site regard him as little more than a bragger. I will stand with galentes count as 60.

That guy Gerrard Pappa personally killed 36 people,thats what the net says.But my money is on Roy DeMeo.Also,rhey say that Sonny Franzese killed about 60 people,who knows.

The question is who personally killed the most people, not who ordered or planned the most hits.

Border Protector, I have an EXTREMELY GRAPHIC video that begins by showing the four bound women kneeling in a field in front of their heavily armed captors. Surrounded by 13 masked men, one woman was asked what her relation to a rival gang was in which she replied that her brother was a member.
After just a few more short moments, four members of the cartel stepped forward and slit the women’s throats and beheaded them in a variety of ways from a hunting knife, to a machete and even an axe.
Los Zetas’s date back to 1999, when commandos of the Mexican Army’s elite forces deserted and took up employment with the drug-trafficking Gulf Cartel.
In February 2010, Los Zetas broke away from the Gulf Cartel to branch out on their own, and their connections with the Mexican military soon made them the pre-eminent criminal organization in their country—and, as the Mexican invasion of America has continued, into the USA as well.
Los Zetas are now Mexico’s largest drug cartel and are based in Nuevo Laredo, Tamaulipas, directly across the border from Laredo, Texas.

I am not posting the video because it is quite graphic and disturbing.

No, the murder of the young lady outside their clubhouse was more shocking

A lot of the old Jews In Murder Inc were particularly sick fucks.

Abe Reles, Mendy Weiss and Louis Buchalter were all homicidal maniacs.

Reles's favourite method was an ice pick through the ear. How charming.

I'm with you on this one, Murder Inc had to have the highest personal body count but which mobster had the most kills? I'm also voting them as the "Most Feared" crew in American Organized crime.

The Westies racked up a decent amount of bodies,

deniro, youre correct. however as a group demeo and his crew have to top any list. now, in reading "murder machine" capeci says the number could be 200. now, deniro you have to admit demeos crew yielded to no one when it came to butchery.

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But everythings relative. Demeo crew were a particulary homicidal bunch. For the times. You get a crew today who has 10 hits under its belt and relatively speaking to todays enviroment thats big.
But Lefty Ruggerio himself had 22-24 alone 30yrs back and wasnt considered THE most crazy/hard guy on the streets. By a long shot.

So sure, the Demeo crew for their time, had a high count.

But in terms of simple numbers?

1920's and 30's SHIT all over Demeo.

Murder in 1920 was A DIFFERENT thing to 1981.

yes, blackstein, you certainly are correct, In the decade of the 20s early 3os in new York, and Chicago the murders were horrendous. thank you for pointing that out.

I seem to remember that Capeci once quoted a book ( East side West side, I believe it was called) which proved that the number of hits for Murder Inc. were hugely inflated. Still, for todays standards, as Sonnyblackstein wrote, the numbers would be huge. But it's hard to give a good number for those old guys.
Would Nicoletti and/or Alderisio have a shot at the title? And how would it compare to, for instance, Bugsy Siegel who was a stone killer in his younger days? (anyone have any figures about him? I just know some stories which might as well by mythical.)

Think casso admitted to. 37 murder conspiracy s. On top of taking over Roy demeo crew after they killed him. Did casso admit to the feds he supervised the hit on demeo that be a cool fact. But probably demeo or jimmy coon an or jimmy Burke for gangsters after the books were open in the 70 tys. Steve flemmi in Boston or martorano are serial killers. Be tter question goe stste by state. Read that guy Richie the boot killed a lot or would dispose of bodies

I still believe that the old timers from Brooklyn like Albert Anastasia, the Luciano/Genovese crew and the "Murder Inc" fellas clipped more people than any other mobsters. I wouldn't doubt if they took out a couple witnesses who got in their way while they were in route to clip a guy.

Back in the prohibition era it would be a cinch to clip five, ten guys at a time if they were trying to hijack your booze. The amount of bodies that add up are just too many to count. The old timers are the ones who would kill a civilian that would get in their way of making money. They had no qualms about it. These situations and killing civilians are something that rarely occurred in modern day times. That's why I just don't see the numbers with the De Meo crew and the other modern crews.

Yea Richie the Boot vs Longy Zwillman read about them. Most people don't know about their beef. Longy Zwillman wasalways in my Pops neighborhood with Moretti and the others in the Luciano crew.

Dominic cataldo of the Colombo family had a pretty high body count by all accounts

There were also more killers back then. The question is which mobster had the highest personal body count. The problem is sometimes on guy would hold the victim down while another stabbed or strangled them. Does each hitter get half a kill? How about when two or more guys shoot one victim? In all honesty nobody would ever know because the guys who do tell-all books are full of shit and then there are others who keep their mouths shut and we'll never know how many they killed.

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I didn't have to time to read everybody's answer on each page and everybody gave fantastic answers but did anybody mention Richard "ice man" Kuklinski? This son of a bitch was brutal but I heard that he exaggerated a little and took the credit for murders he didn't really commit. Also... Mad Sam destefano from Chicago was a absolute psychopath. Frankie Carbo from the lucchese's put in A lot of work during prohibition and in the murder inc era. And whitey bulger ...... He was a nut job !! No exaggeration there. He killed a lot of guys in the 70's and 80's alone. Gerry pappa that was in the Brooklyn faction of the genovese family was another nut with a gun!

[quote=Alfanosgirl]I still believe that the old timers from Brooklyn like Albert Anastasia, the Luciano/Genovese crew and the "Murder Inc" fellas clipped more people than any other mobsters. I wouldn't doubt if they took out a couple witnesses who got in their way while they were in route to clip a guy.

Back in the prohibition era it would be a cinch to clip five, ten guys at a time if they were trying to hijack your booze. The amount of bodies that add up are just too many to count. The old timers are the ones who would kill a civilian that would get in their way of making money. They had no qualms about it. These situations and killing civilians are something that rarely occurred in modern day times. That's why I just don't see the numbers with the De Meo crew and the other modern crews. killing civilians,the killing of innocent men,and women happened hundreds of times in the modern era. jimmy burkes crew killed many women, the Chicago outfit of the 40s, 50s killed many women, look what casso did, in the nineties, when galente was in prison he was always threating people that he would kill their families."we only kill our own" is a huge mafia myth.they killed many innocent civilians.

im sorry, my response started with killing civilians, I don't know what happened.

I get what you are saying... that there were innocents killed in modern times but the numbers just don't add up to the numbers in the earlier years.