Mark Rossetti being an FBI informant

Wow!!! I am an somewhat of an insider to the Patriarca Crime Family, and I know most of the co-defandants in the Rossetti case. They have been told that Mark Rossetti is an FBI informant, and is also (da!) giving the Staties everything they need as well. Word on the street Anthony Dinunzio and Anthony "Spucky" Spagnolo feel they are both going away, Dinunzio is the Acting Boss while Boss Peter Limone is surving 5 years probation from the entire Family. Spagnolo is a Capo and leads the Revere, Ma faction. Carmen Dinunzio the Underboss in federal jail is also going to get hit with more charges as well, and soldiers Mike Prochilo and Darin Bufalino are gone too.

Moving to the "Real Life" forum.

By the way I saw the chart made on the Patriarcas, and it is wrong. The chart should look like this.

BOSS: Peter Limone
UNDER BOSS: Carmen Dinunzio IP 2016
CONSIGLIERE: Robert "Bobby" Deluca
ACTING BOSS: Anthony Dinunzio

CAPO
Anthony "Spucky" Spagnolo Revere Faction Leader
CAPO
Vincent "The Animal" Ferrara North End In Town Leader with Anthony Dinunzio
CAPO
Mark Rossetti East Boston -FLIPPED in FBI custody
CAPO
James "Jimmy" Martorano- Quincy/ South Shore Faction Leader

CAPO
Joe Achille Rhode Island Faction
CAPO
Anthony Parillo Rhode Island Faction IP Restraining Order Violation
CAPO
Edward "Eddy" Lato Rhode Island Faction UI Gambling, Extortion, Racketeering

SOLDIERS

Darin Bufalino- UI East Boston Faction
Mike Prochilo Sr. East Boston Faction
Mike Prochilo- UI East Boston Faction
Joe Prochilo- UI East Boston Faction
Robert "Bobby Russo" Corozza-East Boston Faction
Anthony Ciampi-East Boston Faction IP 2017
Mike Romano-East Boston Faction IP 2017
Edward "Eddie" Harris- UI East Boston Faction
Stephen Rossetti IP East Boston Faction
Michael Rossetti East Boston Faction

Pryce Quintina- Revere Faction
Lee Rizzo- Revere Faction
Michael Spagnolo- Revere Faction
William "Billy" Angelesco IP 2013- Revere Faction
Gene Giangrande -Revere Faction
Cono "Connie" Frizzi -Revere Faction
Joseph "Junior" Pingaro UI- Revere Faction
Charles "Charlie" Lightbody- Revere Faction
John "Johnny" Lightbody- Revere Faction
Frank Martorano- Revere Faction

Robert "Rob" Malerba Revere Faction
Joe Spagnolo Revere Faction

Vinny good to have u aboard I am a boston guy myself.I always enjoy haveing other patriarca family insiders on here . Couple questions about yur chart. A few of yur soldiers are not even italian . I know the lightbodys are very well known and connected but actually made not so sure. And where did u hear that VF is the north end capo ?? Thanks and welcome

The Lightbodys report to Pryce Quitina in Revere, and I dont mean they are "made" men, I mean they are actual soldiers called upon for dirty work. They are in serious trouble considering their closeness to Mark Rossetti, they had gambling machines in Mark's headquarters, "The Bunker Social Club" in East Boston.

Vinny still has some influence and strenght in the Family from alot of bookmakers and loansharks, and calls some shots. He is according to law enforcement still a Captain and has maintained that status since his release.

I replied to your post on the forum

where would you put dee dee and freddy s in all this??

Freddy Simone was working at the Fillipo Restaurant in the North End, but isnt any more. And Dee Dee is working with a personal friend of his that runs a handy man/ construction company/ business, whatever it is. The Regime that is in place does not much like Dee Dee and word is he has been shelved. Freddy is a very well respected guy, I think after the administration is taken down by Mark Rossetti, Freddy will step out and take control over things. But he wont have many people on the street with him.

U def know yur stuff vinny. In yur opinoin any chance VF takes over this family if rosetti brings down the current leadership ??

First, it's easier to read what you're saying if you put it in a single post. You can always use the edit function instead of making multiple posts. Second, the term "soldier" typically means a made guy, not just an associate.

Also, without getting into specific positions for the moment, aren't you missing quite a few people? I mean, even not getting into all the names, where are guys who have been in the news recently like Luigi "Baby Shanks" Manocchio, Matthew "Matty Gugs" Gugliemetti Jr, Frank "BoBo" Marrapese, Anthony "The Saint" St. Laurent, Alfred "Chippy" Scivola, etc.? Even a guy like Raymond “Junior” Patriarca Jr. is still technically a member, even though he's long been inactive.

Well from what I hear Rossetti worked for Vinny back in the 80's until Vinny was incarcerated, then Rossetti worked for Frank Salemme. So Vinny may have a headache as well, but in my opinion I dont think so. Rossetti has done many things with Darin Bufalino and Mike Prochilo Jr on his rise to Captian, including murders. The last 10 years when he made Captain he became close with The Dinunzio brothers, Carmen and Anthony. And he became close with the Revere Faction led by Anthony "Spucky" Spagnolo. So all these guys are definately gone, word is he is going to take down "Baby Shacks" and New York guys as well. After its all over I can see Vinny, Freddy Simone, Bobby Corrozza, or Bobby Deluca takin over.

You are correct, I did not get to posting the rest of the Soldiers in the Family, so here they are.

Soldiers- Medford Faction (Reported to Carmen Dinunzio the Underboss)

Salvatore "Toby" Marino IP 2012
John Scarpelli IP 2012
Louis Dinunzio

Soldiers- Rhode Island Faction

Richard Bonafiglia UI
Alfred "Chippy" Scivola UI
Vito "The Ox" Deluca
Raymond "Scarface" Jenkins
Frank "BoBo" Marrapese
Pasquale Galea

Richard Tiberi UI
Joseph Tiberi UI
Joseph Achille Jr.
Vincent Tallo UI
Alfred Maeillo UI
Paul Calise UI
Carl Anastasio UI
Richard Cato UI
Anthony Delmonico UI
Gennaro Dicarlo UI
Blaise Marfeo
Rudolph "Rudy" Sciarra
Gaythorne "Poochie" Agnell
Kenneth "Kenny" Guarino
Christopher Disanto UI
Robert Ianiero UI
Raymond Vallante UI
Raymond Jr. Patriarca (Retired)

I didn't think the Lightbody's paid anyone and I've heard Pryce is pretty much retired also. I think Mark's codefendants could do ok if they play this the right way. He doing all kinds of things while working with them. Have you ever heard of the guy Joe LaFratta? I saw him on fox 25 recently. He was in prison for a while but his name is around these guys.

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Except Dapper_Don made the same thread over a week ago.

thanks for noticing lol

one of us should send a tip over to Target 12 about Mark R being an informant so they can investigate it/make a video...

http://www.wpri.com//generic/target_12/inside_mafia/local_wpri_inside_mafia_web_extras

E-mail target12@wpri.com
Call 401-228-1763

when the hell did anthony ciampi and mike romano become made? They both been in the can for like 14 years. Whatever happened to the rest of that crew? They were all at war with the rossettis and bufalino, back in the early 90s

im from boston too vinnygorgeous217, and i saw this coming a year ago, mark rossetti has always been hooked on heroin, so it isnt too unbeleivable that he flipped the only question in my mind was when was he going to flip, also that whole crew of his, the ones they showed in the orginazational chart, most of them have been rats there whole lives, not get up on the stand and testify rats, but rats that get pinched time and again for serious stuff and always walk away with out doing any real time, or no time at all, mark weddeleton, robert "puss" ciampi, agustus "gus" laface, to name a few, these 3 right here have all long been rumored to have been CIs throughout there lives, and for a mafia captain to get involved with the likes of these 3 makes you wonder!

chico welcome i 2 am a boston guy. its good to see we finally have 4 or 5 boston posters on here.

I think your wrong about Mark Weddelton. Weddelton has done alot of time and has never cooperated with authorities with anything or anyone. Gus Laface and Puss on the other hand you can make a case, Puss is a scumbag junkie doin heroin with Mark Rossetti, and Gus Laface wants some of his codefendants to tell the State the pot he got caught with wasnt his. Puss and Guss are rats, not Mark Weddelton he's a well respected stand up guy. They all put the blame on Weddelton, but when it come out Rossetti was the rat they all apologized to him. Thats 100% true my friend.

Well Anthony Ciampi and Romano are going to be made when they are out. Ciampi is half Greek, but they made Salemme and he was half Irish so whats the difference. They will work under Bobby Corozza if he is still on the street in a few years. Ralph Scarpa is in jail fighting a drug case, Gigi Portalla has about 15 more years left, and the rest of the renegade faction were all rats. John "Smiley" Mele, Jerry Matricia, and Johnny Patti all ratted. Anthony Diaz is also away for murdering Paul Struzzella.

To answer the first part, Revere, Ma has always been a Mafia breeding and stomping ground. There is no way The Lightbodys or anyone for that matter is going to earn in Revere without wetting the Mafia's beak. The Lightbodys have bars, real estate, illegal poker machines, and did other things. They pay every month take that to the bank. The Lightbody's are dangerous guys, but the guys in Revere are more serious and dangerous people, including Pryce. Second I dont know who Joe Lafratta is, no one I know has ever heard of him. And Pryce is still active.

Hey vinny gorgeous217, I could have sworn I read before that johnny patti, and gigi portalla marino were the only 2 who went through a 2nd trial in that mob war case back in the 90s, I never heard or read, anywhere that he ratted in that case, wasnt sean cote, the big rat in that case as well as matricia who had been a cooperating witness the whole time he was around these guys, also I remember hearing that there was a couple others who cooperated in that case as well.

Johnny Patti and his father both ended up cooperating with the government. Marino got time for things he didn't even commit, the word was straight from made guys that Bobby Nogeira shot Salemme, not Marino and Franky Imbruglia, although Imbruglia was the driver with Nogeira. Matricia, Mele, Mark Spisak, the Patti's, Cote, all cooperated with the government. Take it to the bank. The only ones who didnt were newly captured Enrico Ponzo, Anthony Ciampi, Mike Romano, Gigi Portalla, and Bobby Corozza. Now the Salemme faction saw Salemme rat because Flemmi had him cold, and now Mark Rossetti. Mafia guys in Boston are saying Mark Rossetti being an informant for 10 years is "the biggest shocker since "Sonny" Mercurio."

Thanks for the update, I dont know the man but I do know people he used to run with back in the 80s, and 90s, and that was always the general consensus, as far as mark weddeleton was concerned as well as the other 2, puss ciampi and laface. As a matter fact both of laface's patners in the drug business went into witness protection, smiley mele, who you mentioned in your other reply as well as his partner who he owned the garage with in East Boston.

I was just researching online and indeed patti did take it to trial, theres an appeal that names patti and marino and it says, that they were both members of la cosa nostra, and it tells the whole story of what happened in that case, it also says marino received 420 months, and that patti received 360 months, it doesnt say that patti and his father cooperated, it only says that matricia and spisak, and arciero, and some guy from worcester named leo boffoli cooperated in that case, it also says sean cote died prior to trial. Also what do you think about this ponzo fella being captured after all these years? Will he flip too, and if he does, wont romano and ciampi and all the other guys in that case have to worry about what he will say? And yes I agree, Mark Rossetti flipping, or as you say being an informant for the past 10 years is a shocker, His cousin stevie rossetti, and david turner must be sick to their stomachs, as well as worried about what he will say about them, also his cousin richie gillis who also just got out, another one who's been long suspected as being an informant. us vs vincent michael marino aka vincent portalla, and john j patti III, 277 f.3rd, page 11

With MR flipping who is leading the east boston crew now??. And with lato and AP getting pinched recently who wud likely step up to run there crews while they battle there legal problems ?

Well this is a hard thought and interesting post for me to write. First off, Parillo I dont think is going to do much time for a restraining order violation, so he is a Captain to stay over his crew or people. Eddie Lato is definately going away, if I made a statement no one inherats his position, I just think it's more for Parillo, Achille, and Jimmy Martorano, all three of these guys are based on the South Shore, Ma and Rhode Island. With these three guys reporting to Bobby Deluca, who is now officially the top guy in Rhode Island.

Now for the East Boston faction, and the rest of Boston for that matter, it all depends upon what does Mark Rossetti have on everyone. In my opinion soldiers Darin Bufalino, Mike Prochilo Sr, Mike Prochilo Jr, Joseph Prochilo, and Edward Harris are all with Mark, therefore they are all gone. These men committed inumerable acts of violence and murders with Mark and amongst themselves that Mark knows about and will be granted immunity to tell. Now when Mark 10 years ago was annointed Captain of East Boston, he because of his position got close to Luigi "Baby Shacks" Manocchio, Carmen Dinunzio, Anthony Dinunzio, and Antonio "Spucky" Spagnolo...continued

Word on the street is the Dinunzio boys are gone from what Mark has on them, Mark is the made guy that I think will testify against Manocchio to prove to the world Manocchio's position in the Patriarca Family, and Spagnolo is on egg shells as well, maybe even Spagnolo's right hand man Pryce Quintina. And how can we forget Peter Limone, I think he will get hit with charges as well. So after the administration gets taken down by the Feds, I'm truly guessing that Bobby Corozza will take the reigns in East Boston, maybe even higher. There are reportedly two guys in Eastie a guy named "Junior" and a guy named Joe that run things, but are very low key and I cannot mention their names it would be wrong....continued

they are serious people and are well respected among the Cosa Nostra circles, and other circles, and reportedly report to Spagnolo and the Revere faction, not East Boston, lucky them. But who knows Mark might have the goods on them as well, but guessing I dont think so. Bobby Corozza lives in East Boston so he is now the highest ranking member in that location, but after this bust he will encompass even higher than a Captain and into the Administration.

What five murders are you referring to? I can't think of any in recent years.

I Did not mention any murders specifically, I think you are mistaken. But I believe Rossetti, Bufalino, and the three Prochilo's are suspects in the murders of Barry Lazarini, Vincent Arcieri, Rocco Scali, Bobby and Richard Donati, Richard "The Pig" Devincent, Vincent DeNino, and many others. The Feds pulled Mark Rossetti into a grand jury that specifically targeted Mafia related un-solved murders, and he pled the 5th Amendment and was sent away for 18 months, but he was never pulled in front again, why? Because they flipped him and they got what they wanted, and for the last 10 years.

Really good point Vinny. The FBI did the same thing they did with Whitey. Mark was the worst guy on the street to get in bed with but they don't care. He's got a few bodies, no question about it. Daren must be crapping his pants....

Well the Rossetti's are well known in Cosa Nostra circles to the FBI. Mark's father Ralph was a made guy in East Boston who ran with J.R Russo's crowd. Then Mark and his cousins Stephen and Michael became heavily involved in armored car robbing, general theft, and having dangerous and violent reputations. Stephen Rossetti, David Turner, and Carmello Merlino were three suspects in the Isabella Stewart Gardner Museum heist. Then of course Darin Bufalino got involved, and then everyone got enlisted to work with Boss Frank Salemme. And of course the FBI isnt stupid, they know Mark didnt get his stripes because he was an earner, he got it because him and Darin can put people to sleep. Plus they knew he was a heroin junkie...

ever since he was rammed in the back on his motorcycle by a Massachusetts State Trooper named Billy Johnson. Mark was taking prescription pills, but the pills were not enough and he degenerated to heroin. Mark though I have to say is a tough kid, he suffered a broken back and still he was able to bash State Trooper Johnson's head in with his fists and put the guy on life support. He was intentionally hit, and yet he got a 5 year bid for that for the damage he did to the trooper. But the Feds knew he was a junkie, and they took full advantage, and he is going to bring an entire Family to it's knees.

Vinny, how the tell did the mafia let this guy become a captain? From what I hear it was common knowledge that he was a junkie.

Well I guess what you have to say to yourself is this, he murdered alot of people for the Mafia, he went to jail(even with his dependencies) and kept his mouth shut, and he had a crew that could go to Afganistam and keep things calm. So those three things there make a guy move up fast, not using drugs, but the ability to murder on command and having strong back up.

i wonder how long it will take untill we see some indictments??

Well Manocchio's case in underway really in Providence, so I think the FBI are stalling the case and preparing grand jury's in Massachusetts on Limone, Anthony Dinunzio, Carmen Dinunzio, Anthony Spagnolo, Darin Bufalino, Michael Prochilo Sr, Michael Prochilo Jr, Joey Prochilo, Edward Harris, Manocchio himself, and others, like for instance soldier Billy Angelesco who was aquitted of murdering Peter Devito, but now what does Mark Rossetti have to say about that? Maybe Conviction. I would say another year to six months and everyone will be rounded up.

"In-Town" North End/ Medford Faction Soldiers


Gregory Costa
Richard Costa
Vincent Capone
Dennis "Champagne" Lepore/ Former Capo
Ralph Lamattina
Joe "Joe Black" Lamattina
Salvatore "Toby" Marino
John Scarpelli
John Cincotti
Anthony Bova
Vincent Federico

Richard "Ricky" Floramo Jr.
Anthony Floramo
Jeffrey "Jeff" Floramo
Frank Pagano
Dominic "Junior" Santoro
Domenic Serino
Pasquale "Patsy" Barone
Thomas Palladino
Anthony Squillante
Ralph Ventola
Joseph "Junior" Truesce
Mario Marquardo
Anthony Lavuolo
Louis "Lou" Pepe IP
Edward "Eddy" "Goldberg" Alberti

The Connecticut Faction of the Patriarca Family

CAPO
Mathew "Matty Gugs" Guglielmetti
ACTING CAPO
Anthony "Tony the Beaver" Ascenzia Jr.

SOLDIERS
Americo "The Cigar" Petrillo
Salvatore "Butch" Da'Quila
Carl Apuzzo
Alphonse Amendola
Charles Cerreta
Andrew Colavolpe Jr.
Thomas Coppolla

James Cretella
Steven Datillo
Domininc Gentile
Ralph Ianuzzi
Michael Larbori Sr.
Angelo Lucifora
Biagio Martinelli
Benedetto Minichiro
Anthony M Natalizio
Nick Onofrio Jr.
John Vitello
John Zullo
Anthony Nostacio

Vinny great job with the InTown faction. U went real deep and pulled out some small time guys which to me proves u know yur stuff. I did notice u missed a couple younger guys but I don't wanna say who becaue u never know if LE is on a site like this. And if they r on to these guy yet. But regardless great job

But if he's been singing on murders for the last ten years, why no arrests. That doesn't make sense. They wouldn't let guys walk the streets that long if they were implicated.

You can't try someone again who has been acquitted of a crime, regardles of what comes out later.

Well believe me they are looking, especially the Feds. I have a couple names in East Boston one young guy and an old timer who are running things but they are not in the spotlight yet so until that happens, noone gets the names.

I think the FBI wanted to get more serious charges on the people that were around Mark Rossetti, he can say he killed this one, he killed that one, its Mark's word against theirs. But if you catch these guys with more stuff, like drugs, more murders, extortion, maybe they will talk because of all the time they are facing. The FBI plays what they call the "waiting game." They let things play out so you hang yourself more.

Wow Vinny you know a hell of a lot about the family in Boston!!! Let me ask you this: Within the Boston area are the Family still running all the streets or are they competing with Bikie's, Black gangs etc, is their standing still very powerful?

In the East Boston and Revere area's there are presence of Black gangs, Hispanic gangs, Asian gangs, and Bikers, none of this exist's in the North End. But the other groups know who the Mafia people are and respect them in those areas shockingly immensely. If you saw Mark Rossetti's bust, there are Dominican drug dealers in his case that were working for him, and paying him every month. The number one allie to the Mafia in Massachusetts is the Hell's Angels, and the Outlaws are coming around as well. If things get heavy the Angels got the Patriarca's back 100% But I will answer the question with there is an understanding among the different groups, and everyone gets along.

But I also will say that the Patriarca's are notorious for robbing drug dealers and street gangs. They get info off the street from junkies on stash apartments and high level dealers and rob them like it isnt anyone's business, and they also shake alot of them down as well. I never heard of once these street gangs ever getting violent with the Italians, but I heard of the Italians getting violent with them. I hope I answerd the question.

For any1 who may know him cono frizzi jr passed away.

I just heard that myself. Did you hear how he died?

Well Connie Frizzi Jr. has always been a junkie as well. The word on the street was he was made as a favor to his father Connie Sr. Before Sr. died he asked the Administration to make his son, and they did it because at the time he was a tough young kid and not a junkie. But like Mark Rossetti, drugs got the best of him too. I heard he was dieing, now I know unfortunately the rumor was true.

i heard it was from pneomonia

I knew cono personaly, and yes he did have a junk problem, and the past few years he was living out of state running a hotel he purchased, he recently developed diabetes and was thin as a rail, especially this past year or so compared to how heavy he was throughout his life, RIP Cono

Chico you seem to be from East Boston, am I right? I'll admit I am.

Thanks for answering my question Vinny! So it seems there may be more than the 50-60 made guys I see people say are in the family? I also didn't realize they were so involved in the drug business! Must help for the Hells angels to have their backs though.

Nick I think the 50-60 made guys is accurate. Even though I have more than 60 guys pencled in, for years now it has been hard to get your button, you really have to proove yourself loyal and capable. In the last 10 years these are the only guys that were made, Darin Bufalino, Mike Prochilo Jr, William Angelesco, Anthony Parrilo, and maybe Richard Bonafiglia. They have alot of associates, so why go through the trouble of setting up a ceremnony and everyone getting together in one spot for law enfrorcement to snap pictures, or possibly bug it.

Thanks man for the info. How does the 50-60 made guys compare to back in the day? like the 1970s? Were the family much bigger then?

Yes, I am from EB, grew up there as a kid, now live in southern massachusettes. married with kids now.

. Also made in the last 10 years was anthony dinunzio, greg costa and anthony rizzo who has since passed away.

Wasn't Anthony Rizzo only in his 40's? What happened to him? I know he was pinched in 2002 on a heroin sting. Is this the same guy?

Yup same guy. He had a massive stroke wile out on bail and died. His mother passed away bout 2 wks later. I felt so bad for his family cause both he and his mother were nice nice people. They were both 2 young. What a shame

Im pretty sure that Carmen Dinunzio and Anthony Dinunzio were made in the 1990's by "Baby Shacks" Manocchio when they were allowed to come back to New England from the Chicago LCN Family Vegas/ California Faction. Im sure the exact year would be 1995 or so, it was right after Frank Salemme was indicted and went on the lam, and when John Salemme was forced out as Acting Boss. I am also pretty sure that Anthony Rizzo was made before 2001 as well. He had done time in Raybrooke, N.Y with made guys like Anthony "Spucky" Spagnolo, and was a step-son to the elder Underboss and Revere Faction member Alexander "Sonny Boy" Rizzo. Rizzo and the Revere boys made him real young he was already a proven guy and extreme earner...

mosty with drugs though. He was considered by law enfrorcement as the most powerful soldier in the Family at one time making not thousands, hundreds of thousands of dollars. He also had sports and loansharking businesses. When he died his sports and shy action went to the Dinunzio boys "In Town" or in the North End, even though Anthony Rizzo reported to Revere. Greg Costa I guess I'll take your word on that, he was with the Medford, "In Town" Faction, which Carmen Dinunzio had control over as Underboss, he's was in real tight with him so I can't disagree.

I wonder if Rossetti will shed any light on a couple of murders in Medford/Somerville. Specifically, the Patsy Squillante hit (most likely Angelesco/Giangrande related) as Squillante was subpoenad to testify in the Bobby Rogers(?) murder trial which Angelesco was a suspec. The murder took place in Squillante's bar and he was killed shortly before the trial I think.

Also, there was a hit in Candelino's in Somerville a while back. I think the guys name was Mark Eldridge(?)or something like that. I read that a guy in a suit walked in, shot him in the face, and walked out. The guys gf chased him. He shot and wounded her. She clammed up. I don't think either of these were solved.

Well to answer the question, I believe even though Angelesco and Giangrande roamed Medford, Somerville, Everett, and Malden, their reporting place and memebership belongs to the Revere faction, which Antonio "Spucky" Spagnolo is the Captain over. So I'm guessing these murders came from the Revere Faction, or from Peter Limone, Carmen Dinunzio, and Anthony Dinunzio who as a trio controlled at the time the "In Town"/ North End/ Medford Faction. Mark Rossetti's territory is East Boston, Beachmont-Revere, Chelsea, and Winthrop. But as I'm told the top 5 guys in Boston all communicate with one another, and at the time of the murder, thats Peter Limone, Carmen Dinunzio, Anthony Dinunzio, Antonio Spagnolo, and.....

of course Mark Rossetti. So Mark I'm guessing had murders run by him by other Factions, but he was in jail alot so he might not know. But let's not forget he was a well trusted repsected man, someone must have mouthed off. I would say he has leads for the Feds on those.

. The beachmont club has a lot of young guys in there who are said to be big earners .

Are you referring to "Joe the Barber's" club? Because he has been closed for at least 2 years after his sons arrest for oxycontin distribution.

No not joe's place I know they closed down couple yrs ago. Some of the younger guys who hung out there opened there own spot back in january.

I knew everyone in that place, I dont know who you mean that opened up in January, can you specify or not? I know Eddy Gravallesse is out of business, he's the only one I know that could run his own business.

I am not tyalking bout "fast" eddie G that kid is a joke. If u know the people in beachmont then u shud know these 2 kids. I will not post there names as again I don't know if the Law knows bout them or would look on a site like this . I did make one mistake saying the club was in beachmont it is actually in medford . And it opened on super bowl sunday for a private party

Another story about Mark on that blog that I posted on here and started all this mess....LOL



http://con-sulting.blogspot.com/2011/07/its-hot-outside-but-not-nearly-as-hot.html

Good info in that article. Thanks for posting it

http://www.myfoxboston.com/dpp/news/undercover/mafioso-mark-rossetti-arraigned-in-court-20100521

pretty good video. Old but some good footage.

This news has everyone buzzing. A lot of people are going down over because of this guy.....

Here is the question alot of people are talking about that I'm going to post, is Brian Rossetti, Mark's younger brother, safe on the street now that all this has come out? Brian is a legitimate kid with a family and a career, but is he going to be safe. We all remember what happened to John Veasey's brother in Philly, I happen to think Boston guys are more dangerous.

I don't know. He lives in Marblehead and he has nothing to do with that life but who knows? Good question.

Boston Mob Associates

Have heard these names mentioned thru the years and recently. Any of youse guys got any info on these last names ?

Vierra, Onesimo, Lynch, Casella, Cali, Gaglione, Bono, Margareci, Masciulli, Mandrachia

Well John "Jackie" Vierra is a degenerate gambler and junkie who grew up with Mark Rossetti and Darin Bufalino, but is not in anyway a player in Organized Crime. He made headlines when he set up a Middleton man looking to buy 20,000's worth of rock salt with Darin Bufalino, of course, it was a bad set up. Darin snatched the money and took off. Shawn Lynch is a junkie in and out of jail, he's believed to be a strong arm guy for Mark Rossetti, and a step brother to the Rossetti family. The Masciulli's are a family from The Heights in East Boston that were involved with cocaine and prescription pills, they were actually with the Rossetti's years ago, but Jim Sr. and Jr. both died last year. Mark Mandracchia is a wanna be who......

did a little time and knew people in Providence. He tried shaking people down, but people start given him slaps and he went into the restaurant business, he currently owns "The Newbridge" in Revere, Ma. The Cali family was at one time a big family of bookmakers in East Boston and Revere. Philip "Beeshie" Cali was the head honcho, with Benny, and Tommy Cali. Tommy is the only one still alive in Revere. The rest, Casella, Gaglione, Bono, and Margareci I never heard off.

Johnny "Gags" Gaglione has been around a long time. He is just a huslter that was connected to Jr. Pingaro who just got arrested for tax evasion along with his wife. Here is the link on Jr.

http://apostille.us/news/middleton_couple_indicted_on_tax_and_structuring_charges.shtml

Here's some more info on the other alledged Associates

Onesimos are Everett / North End guys
There are Gaglione's in East Boston, and the Johnny Gags you speak of, is I believe a Medford guy.
Casella was a Revere politician from East Boston.
The Bono's and Margareci's are all from E.B.

These guys all know each other and have been in each others company at one time or another, as well as having been in the company of numerous LCN members. They all have ties and could be considered connected, but, basically they are non entities and inconsequential in the grand scope of things from what I heard.

I think the "Johnny Gags" you guys are referring to is Johnny Gagliardi, not Gaglione. John Gagliardi Sr. and Jr., were LCN associates in the Medford/ Somerville area. The son died in 2005 of a heroin overdose in the Fenway Commons in downtown Boston. The father is still considered to be active, but most of that crew is coming out and not on the street currently. The Medford crew, which is allied with the North End was

Peter Limone -Leader Capo
Carmen Dinunzio- Underboss
John "Johnny Gags" Gaglairdi Sr.
John "Johnny Gags" Jr. DECEASED

William "Billy" Angelesco IP
Eugene "Gene" Giangrande
John Scarpelli IP
Salvatore "Toby" Marino IP
John Barry
Gregory "Fat Boy" Costa IP
Richard Costa
Joseph Amato
Lilo Fabo
Thomas Verona
Anthony Bova
Lou Pepe
Cono "Connie" Frizzi DECEASED
James "Candy" Candelino
Frank Cinseruli

Any of you guys ever hear of the jewish kid named Neal? I heard he is the biggest bookmaker in Boston.

greg costa is not in jail i saw him friday. Giagrande is in jail

The biggest bookmakers in Boston and on the North Shore are Joseph "Jason Peters" Gialanella who was grabbed in Mark Rossetti's case, and John Gianelli of New Hampshire who is about to be indicted Federally for Bookmaking and Money Laundering.

Mike Spagnolo and Floramo's sons ??? Are you sure they're made?
What did they do to "make their bones?" In the old days you had to do a "piece of busines," or, be a good "earner??????"

Didn't see some other EB guys on your lists that may be involved...Festa ?? Sparky or Spanky ???? Ciampa ? Damelio ? Zampante ? Zullo ? Zirpolo ? Farro ? Cartolano ? And what about the kid who owns "RAIN" on Malden, the undertaker in Eastie, or the guy they call BA from Revere ??

Still no further info Onesimos, Bono's Gagliones, Casellas, or Margareci's ? Actually, that last one could be Mattarese ??

As for Markie R., having known him and his Dad, I find it almost impossible to believe he'd flip!

Well the Floramo kids are players in both Massachusetts and Rhode Island with strip clubs and video poker machines, Michael Spagnolo is under his father in Revere and has been for a while now. Now going to East Boston. I dont know a Festa at all. Joe Zampante is an FBI informant and ratted out Vincent "Dee Dee" Giaocchini, Frederick "Freddy the Neighbor" Simone, and Carmine "Junior" Damelio back in 2003. So why would I list Zampante he's a rat? Damelio has since retired from the game. The only Ciampa I know was Frederick in Revere who was a Mafia Captain and recently died. The Ciampi's are Anthony and Puss, Puss is a rat and Anthony is serving 6 more years for murder. Johnny Zirpolo was a gangster in the day....

in East Boston and not anymore. The Zullo's Johnny and Jerry along with Bobby Braccia, Carl "Sluggo" Demarco, and Bobby Italiano, were bookmakers, shylocks, and marijuana traffickers underneath Mafia Captain Salvatore "Mikey" Caruana. Johnny Zullo was murdered in his car 20 years ago on Breed St in East Boston, Jerry Zullo died this year, Bobby Braccia spends most of his time in Florida while his kids run the 466 Restaurant in Topsfield, Ma, he is retired and inactive, Carl Demarco is still active, and Bobby Italiano died. There are no Sparky's but one "Spanky" and his brother Greg Balliro who live in Eastie and are players. The Farro's Jimmy, Johnny, and Franky are minor leaguers, Johnny died of an O.D. And Jimmy.....

is a small time bookmaker who owes more than he makes. Franky is a junkie and loose cannon in and out of prison. Word is Jimmy Farro is a rat because he was caught a few years back with stolen merchandise and put the blame on his brother Johnny who served his time for Jimmy. The brother was qouted saying Jimmy was involved and should have done time with him. The rest I never heard of.

I gotta say vinny, you sure know your stuff, just about everything you have posted on here is very very accurate!

Your dealin with the iron here chico, not some wannabe bum, I know these people. Thank you for that complement, your my favorite to talk to.

Vinny what's going on in lynn these days??? Has the LCN just walked away from it or do they still have a prescence in the city. A lot of $ to b made in lynn but also a lot of competition the albanians , russians and bikers all are present in lynn

Hey barber, I was just reading the herald this morning, and there's an article about enrico ponzo, the guy who was on the run all those years, what do you think about all those guns he got caught with, this guy looks like he's in big trouble, 200.000, in cash and gold coins, 33 firearms, no gun license, all kinds of false identity stuff, not to mention, all the federal and state charges, he was on the run from. Put a fork in him he's done!

Well in my opinoin this guy obviously dosent want to do the time if he was willing to leave his family and friends 2 avoid prosecution. He is pretty much fucked which makes me think he will flip. The only thing is I don't know what he can offer the feds. Pretty much every1 involved in the salemme - carozza war has either been convicted or flipped. I don' t know what else this guy was involved in because I was like 12 yrs old when he ran and even younger when he was doing his thing

A REALLY GOOD BLOG ABOUT MARK ROSSETTI

http://con-sulting.blogspot.com/2011/07/boston-mafia-is-stupid-mark-rossetti.html

You definitely know the players Vinny, but, I'm a little confused...You use words like active, not active, minor leaguers, retired, associated etc...I'd like to see a list of just made guys and top notch associates posted on here...

Isnt it true that not all gangsters are made ??

And as for Associates aren't they ony "with someone" for protection, meaning they're also kicking up $$$ to operate ?

Hey Vinny, what involvement does Frank Cinserulli have ?
Same Fank Cinserulli from East Boston? Thought he was just a small time bookmaker? But, didn't he also own the Pony Lounge in East Boston at one time?

Before he was there, that bar was owned by a Zaninno Captain, was it not ?

What about these guys? How are they involved?

Johnny Festa, Frankie Ciampa, Greg and Spanky Baliro, Joey Russo,
Frankie Martorano, Charlie and Johnny Lightbody, Tommy Calli,
Franny White, Vinny Jackson,Joe Pingaro, Jimmy Dakotis, Dom Serino (Sr. or Jr. ??), Bill Baliro, Johnny Visone, Carl DeMarco, Tommy Rossi, Bobby Kelley, Joe Ruggerio, Bobby Alvino, Johnny Fagone, Paul and Biggie Mattarese, Bobby Luisi, Jimmy Jones, Joe Barber, also, ever hear of anybody named Pat Cadillac, Fabiano, and a guy they call "the Blur?"

I know the blur, his name is bobby paleo, very close freind of gigi portalla, and enrico ponzo, the guy who just got captured in Idaho. Anybody ever hear of red brady, and if so is he still around?

The only Reds I've heard of are Red Lake,Red Palladino & of course, Red Shea. Maybe Vinnie can offer some insight as to who these guys are and what their involvement is.

you have any info on these characters, Chico ?
Vierra, Onesimo, Lynch, Casella, Cali, Gaglione, Bono, Margareci, Masciulli, Mandrachia, OR, on the other ones I listed ?

Any idea how some of these guys like the Floramo and Spagnolo sons got made?

What I dont get, is, if everyone knows the players, and there are some pretty extensive lists on this site alone, why are they all, or, most of them, still walking the streets and still operating.

By the way, still find it very hard to believe that Mark R. is a cooperating witness. Having known him and his Dad, I find it almost impossible to believe he'd flip!

Hey sonny, vinnygorgeous pretty much summed it all up last night, I got to say he was very very accurate on everything he posted on those names. I personly know most of those people, and grew up with some of them. The cali you speak of has got to be "blinky" cali, the only brother still alive, and the lynch, you ask about, the only one I know is from east boston as well, and was ralph rossetti's step son, and is a junkie, just like vinny posted. I personally know these people and he is right on. The matteresses, are joseph, also known as biggie, & his brother paul, they are nobodys, just like alot of these guys you mentioned, drug dealers at one time or another, freinds of darin bufalino, but not in anyway made or anything like that

Well Sonny I dont know how they got made, or if they are even made, Mike Spagnolo and the Floramo kids, all I can tell you is that they are players in the game. And also if you look back you will see that I did answer your questions on the people you listed, but I will not get into actual spacifics, all I can tell you is that they are players.

Bobby kelley another nobody, probaly still a junkie, as are the machuilis from the heights. Mark mandrachia is another old junkie, used to smoke that angel dust back in the late 70's early 80's, and does still own the newbridge cafe in chelsea, some of the other names mentioned I do not recognize.

ok lets see what i can do. Joe pingaro is Junior pingaro . Joe is his real name. He is a confirmed soldier and was indicted last year for tax shit.

Jackie V is a friend of DB. He parties hard . Prob has been used as muscle over the years he is a very tough kid.

Mandracia's own the newbridge. The fathers were big book makers a hubdred years ago but the sons all went ligit.

Joey russo is a revere guy who got pinched a few years ago for bookmaking.

Joe the Barber is a old knock around guy. Think he is retired now he is well into his 70's. He did some time in the early 90's.

Jimmy Jones is a alias for Jimmy angiulo. He is the fifth brother and much younger than the rest. He did some time when his brothers got in trouble. He was living in FLA last i heard.

Franny white went away for racketering in 2003 and served a few years. He was released in 2007

Got some inside info on the State Police Investigation into Mark Rossetti. Apparently, the higher ups in the State Police knew Mark Rossetti was an FBI informant and was cooperating with the Feds and investigating other Captains and Soldiers. Again Apparently, we have a Bulger-Flemmi affect, most of the investigations the Staties began on cetain people reflected entirely around Mark Rossetti. Murders, shakedowns, drug trafficking, the investigators Nunzio Orlando and Pasquale Russolillo brought evidence in to the higher ups, and the higher ups in turn asked the Feds to take Rossetti off the streets. Orlando, like it was mentioned, tapped Rossetti's calls and heard him screaming out, "I want my fuckin money

you scumbag!" Who was the phone registered to, a man currently employed by the Federal Governmant whom the Staties went to see, and were told the news that their ace in the hole case compromised as a "High Echelon Informant." I can remeber a week before Mark was brought in, he was dining in the North End with Anthony Dinunzio, and Pasquale Russolillo went up to the pair and said to Mark, "Get ready because your next." And what did Mark reply, "Well Poopoo, if your LISTENING TO MY CALLS and watching me, you would know I'm not doin anything." Yeah all you were doin was ratting out guys who care for you, and would kill to protect you and your family, all on the FBI's dime. The Staties asked for his head, and they got him,....

congrats to them. It's going to be interesting to see who is next to be indicted, and what is going to stick. Who would a jury believe, a pack of known wiseguys, or a full fledged wiseguy- killer, extortionist, heroin addict, who was looking at 20 years to life if he didnt sing the blues. I'd go with the pack of wiseguys just for moral sake.

Hey Vinny, anything on these characters ?
Johnny Festa, Frankie Ciampa, Greg and Spanky Baliro, Joey Russo,Frankie Martorano, Charlie and Johnny Lightbody, Tommy Calli, Franny White, Vinny Jackson,Joe Pingaro, Jimmy Dakotis, Dom Serino (Sr. or Jr. ??), Bill Baliro, Johnny Visone, Carl DeMarco, Tommy Rossi, Bobby Kelley, Joe Ruggerio, Bobby Alvino, Johnny Fagone, Paul and Biggie Mattarese, Bobby Luisi, Jimmy Jones, Joe Barber, also, ever hear of anybody named Pat Cadillac, Fabiano, and a guy they call "the Blur?"

I think you are dead on Vinny. This guy is a real scumbag and Mikey P is a fighter, he will go trial if he needs to. Do you have any idea when this is going to become public? I hear there is a hearing on Aug 1st.

Vinny, Chico etc...
Sorry if I repeated some names, I used copy and paste - wanted to get my 10th post on here so I could get "upped." ;-)

Update!

In the old days the Boston Mafia would have sniffed out this rat long ago, however these days they seem to be too ignorant to do their homework. And that ignorance is going to help bring down a lot of people.

The incriminating paperwork on Mark Rossetti cooperating with the FBI has not been released to the public yet but soon will be, however this is no excuse for the mafia. If they dug a little into his past conviction they would have seen all the RED FLAGS.

I recently viewed his PRE SENTENCING INVESTIGATION REPORT done by US Department of Probation for his Felon in Possession conviction from 2001 and it is very telling indeed.

First of all I was there with him and John Pedoto the night he got arrested for the gun on Revere beach outside Shipwreck lounge in 1999. He told people that John P set him up. This is impossible due to the fact that Mark bailed out of Revere police station that night under his brother Brians name. If he got set up how could he bail out under his brothers name? Secondly, he went on the run after that and got indicted by the feds on that charge. When he finally did get picked up a year later it was because the DEA was running surveillance at a known drug house in Worcester. They pulled him over and he gave them a Florida License in a different name that lead to no one. They suspected him of buying drugs and they searched the car where they found 50 bags of heroin in between the drivers seat and the console. They brought him in and fingerprinted him. Once they found out who he was they handed him over to the feds. He was NEVER CHARGED WITH THE HEROIN OR THE FALSE ID.

All of this happened when he was out on bail. Now the PSI report recommends that he serve 62 months on the FELON IN POSSESSION charge. A guy with his Mafia pedigree would not get any special treatment in court however he ultimately got a sentence of 51 months which is not out of the realm of possibilities but still this should have had the Mafia questioning it and if they questioned it they might have noticed one line from the US attorneys sentence recommendation that states "we believe that Rossetti should receive a sentence of 51 months due to his timely acceptance of resposiblity AND OTHER INFORMATION KNOWN TO THE US ATTORNEY AT THIS TIME." Now that last line speaks volumes.

No where in my PSI does it say anthing like that. This guy being who he is should have gotten charged with the heroin, with the fake ID and he also fit the criteria for ARMED CAREER CRIMINAL wich would have put him away for 20 years.

HOW THE MAFIA DID NOT BOTHER TO LOOK AT THIS PUBLIC RECORD IS PROOF POSITIVE THAT THEY ARE STUPD AND OR LAZY. They really have lost their edge, just like I explain in my new book DIRTY MONEY.

Now because of their lazyness some good guys have to suffer. GIVE IT UP, ITS OVER. GET A JOB OR EVEN BETTER, WRITE A BOOK.......

http://con-sulting.blogspot.com/2011/07/boston-mafia-is-stupid-mark-rossetti.html

Vinny what's up over there in eastie these days. Who is running there show?? Any word on who the new capo or acting capo is?? I haven't heard anything so far

Johnny festa is an EB guy who served alot of time for 2nd degree murder and was a bad junkie for years, he now runs a sober house on trenton st EB.

I don't know, nothing has been annouced and there is no word on the street. Like I said there are two guys who I think are running the LCN activities in East Boston, but I dont want to mention their names, and to be quite honest, I think they were running things in East Boston not Mark Rossetti. But it will all come out August 1st.

VinnyG in yur opinoin who are the biggest young players in the game right now ???

"Sparky, Spunky" is Spucky

Biggie is Bobby Russo

Paul runs a trucking company in revere

I dig that blog bostonmob. Joe LaFratta's son, on the periphery of the mob and writing about it. I didn't realise there was a guy like this in the Boston Family.

Me too, it's pretty funny and informative.

This Lafratta is a ragbagger, he's a nobody. Anyway folks today is a motion day for the 31 co-defendants indicted alongside Mark Rossetti. let's see what happens and what is said. Today could be a judgment day.

Vinny you "somewhat of an insider" I did time with Mark and all these guys. Kids like you crack me up. What did you do a weekend in South Bay? "Ragbagger"? I bet you never saw 5grand in one place. The whole idea of doing things illegal is stay unknown. You sound like you would go bad in 2 seconds if you got pinched but you only know about other peoples stories. You most likely never did anything yourself. You're a mob groupie. Just keep reading my blog and please buy the book. You can pass my stories off as your own.....

All due respect, Joe, it's a lot safer being a mob groupie than an actual associate, no? But to each their own.

Yeah Joe, I talked to a high up guys the other day, and these guy's are all asking qoute "Who is this dope Joe Lafratta?" Then for saying these guys are "stupid," One guy said if he sees you, no matter where you are, he's going to drop you on the spot. Your a fuckin moron goin on Fox News with Mike Beudet and now writing a book, YOUR A NOBODY! If made guys dont know who you are then that leaves it at that. I dont give a fuck you did time that means nothin that means you were caught and your "stupid." By the way you cant talk to me or look at me if 5grand is involved that chump change you fa***t poser. What do you know about the guys around here, your dealin with some gerbal named Christpher Rich, ooohhh myyyy goood! Big time gangster and politician. Maybe you should have auditioned for Board Walk Empire. Do me and the rest of us a favor, dont post all we're going to do is laugh you wannabe.

I'm laughing at both of you!

Scary stuff Vinny. I'm around if you or your "high ups" need to get something off your chests. You have to be either a cop or from EB. Gerbil not "gerbal". Retard.

Take this crap off the boards. Now.

Ok boys let's calm it down a little. We finally have a good boston thread going on here . No reason to ruin it. Let's face facts some of us have grown up around some of these guys and have more info than some others but no1 on here is a gangster. So let's chill out with all the tough guy shit and move on

I know it's scary it should be. "I did time with Mark Rossetti," are you a junkie like Mark? You seem desperate to make money with your ficticious book. By the way you made insinuations that I would rat if arrested, the only way you could get that info on Rosetti in the Revere and Woburn arrest's would be to talk to the law. So you have a relationship with law enforcement, your a rat, just as much as Rosetti. Keep talkin and making a fool of yourself, you being on this site has tainted my ability to further post. Sorry everyone but you will not be hearing from me anymore listen to this fuckin moron, im done.

You guys won't be told again..... stop the pissing contest now!

VinnyG yur opinoins here along with your profiles r well respected. Don't stop posting on account of this

im sorry for the foul language everyone it is wrong, but I can no longer post because of this guy, I think he's a fraud and he's too friendly with the law, I have my sources.

sorry Barber and sorry SC.

Vinny Bramante please don't go on my behalf. The stuff about Mark is in his PSI. You can walk into federal court right now and get a copy of it. If you ever had dealings in court you would know that. And the Revere case I happened to be standing right there when the law showed up and I talked to him after he got out of Revere police station. You're putting everyones business on this site. I only talk about Mark because he's a rat. I'll be in EB tonight. What's up? Call me a rat to my face you PUNK.

OK.... you have a learning disability. Take a week off from the boards to see if you can learn to listen to a moderator.

Good Job SC. You just "whacked" them....

Same computer, huh? Take a week, too.

Sorry...but that whole thing was pretty funny.

In talking to those who know in Eastie, Mark Rosetti, Darin Bufalino, Jack Vierra, Mark Casella, Shawn Lynch and some of the others listed, all grew up together, and, either hung out and/or went to school together. They've kept in touch with each other through the years, and, have been seen in each others company, and, most likely were up to no good.

No one seems to know how much of a part was played by these long time childhood friends in getting Casella elected as a Representative in Revere, as he was also known to associate with "associates" who were much older than these guys, as were the others.

Damn, this thread was getting heated up nicely. No need for guys to take it off-forum though.

Vinny Gorgeous and JLaFratta both have interesting perspectives. I saw the JLaFratta interview with that yuppie journalist. When he said the politicians a lizard and should crawl on his belly the journalist was probably thinking "Journalism school didn't prepare me for this".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDpsaItgX_Q

Wrong. Whenever two members start acting like two little kids in a sandbox, throwing hissy-fits and calling each other names, they will be told to take their act off the boards. We don't want any childish crap here.

Did viinyG hey the week off ??

They "whacked" the original VinnyG. I say we petition to bring him back:)

Any more on rossetti they were surpose to come out with a lot of info on august 1, have not herd anything

Nah. He really detracted from any intelligent discussion in the threads he went in to, which was all of them. I prefer the boards clean, with a couple of research tabs open. None of the vulgarity.

Yeah, throwing a joke out now and again is fine. But he was always trying to be the clown in every post. Got old after a while.

agreed!!! i second that!

Changing the subject slightly, does anyone know how Joe Yerardi plays into the Boston OC landscape? I know he was tight with Arthur Gianelli and is still locked up for another little while. Is he a made guy? Also, is there more than one Yerardi involved? I did some research online and there appeared to be a Joe Yerardi who burnt his house down in Newton a few years ago for the insurance money. Then there is the Joe Yerardi who is involved in the gambling ring with Gianelli. But they had wives with different names. I can't figure that out.

yerardi is in his mid 50's by now i would say. He is serving time for the gianleii case. He was in otisville last i heard and prob due out later this year or early next year. Yerardi served bout 10 yrs from 95-2005 but was hooked into the gianelli case because some of gianelli's rackets were yerardi's rackets b4 he went in. AG was supervising them for Joe Y while he was away

I never heard bout him trying to burn his house down. Truthfully i could be wrong but i think he was only home for bout 6 months in 2005 before being locked up again

Thanks barber, I actually think there are a couple of Joe Yerardi's, maybe cousins? The famous Joey Y is the one we're talking about who was with Winter Hill I think. This other guy lived recently in Cohasset and I think went away for a couple of years for tax evasion involving his trucking companies in Dedham and Waltham. I'm not sure how many mobsters have the same name that weren't father and son. I'm pretty sure there are a lot of Yerardi's. I thought there was a 'Billy Y' back in the day who died years ago that was a legbreaker.

They say Mark Widdleton not a rat now, you think laface is a rat?

Have there been any (or many) murders linked to the family in recent years?

BOSTON GLOBE ARTICLE TODAY NAMING MARK ROSSETTI AS AN INFORMANT

http://con-sulting.blogspot.com/2011/08/mark-rossetti-informant-i-told-youuuuuu.html

Just read the artilce. I am sick . He has the info to take down a lot of people .

Well I'm back out of retirement, just want to let everyone know. As we have heard and read Mark Rossetti has been officially named an FBI informant today in the Boston Globe article and from court papers unsealed in his State case. It's old news to me because I know some codefendants along side him in this indictment. The focus from what I'm told is a slew of murders orchestrated by Rossetti and other family members is what the FBI wants and is their focus to prosecute other LCN members in Boston. Their to my knowledge are no new murders currently being investigated, but I'm told in the range from the late 1980's to 2003. There was a slew of mob murders Rossetti committed and knows about that were committed by others. It's going to be interesting how the FBI is going to incorporate the State case with the FBI indictments that are going to be handed down in the imminent future.

i wonder what murders they are interested in?? alot of guys shud be packing there suitcases tonight

Any and all I assume. Probably all of the unsolved ones from the war in the early 90's.

If it's up to 2003, then I wonder if Billy Angelesco is a little nervous right now. He was the main suspect in the Bobby Rogers Santasky murder at Patsy Squillante's bar in Medford/Malden(?). Then Squillante took two to the back of the head in 2004. It was believed he was a witness to the Rogers murder.

Another veteran guy, Vinnie the Pig DeVincent was whacked outside of Medford Sq. in 1996, allegedly for not kicking up to Salemme. So is Salemme back in hot water again?

Well murders under Frank Salemme's reign will be brought to public. Barry Lazarini, Rocco Scali, Robert Donati, Richard Donati, Vincent DeNino, and Vincent Arcieri, and possibly more. These murders were committed when Bobby Corozza challenged Salemme's power through Anthony Ciampi and Mike Romano. Now I think they will be brought into public on what exactly happened to these guys.

Hey Vinny, guess you had some real ggod information, now that the truth has been published in the Boston Globe.

Anything on these characters ?

Vinny Jackson, Greg and Spanky Baliro, Joey Russo,Frankie Martorano, Lightbody, Franny White, Jimmy Dakotis, Dom Serino (Sr. or Jr. ??), Bill Baliro, Johnny Visone, Tommy Rossi, Bobby Kelley, Joe Ruggerio, Bobby Alvino, Johnny Fagone,Bobby Luisi, Joe Barber, also, ever hear of anybody named Pat Cadillac or Fabiano?

I'm not at liberty to comment on those people, if you want to talk about PAST people, or Mark Rossetti, I will, but I'm not going to comment. I'll talk about one guy "Vinny Jackson." His real name is Vincent Descisio, he was a made guy in East Boston. He got diagnosed with brain cancer and killed himself with a gun shot wound to the head.

Anyway it seems Mark Rossetti has been doublecrossed by the FBI, oh I'm shocked. Apparently as reported by the Boston Globe and Richard Delauriers the unit leader for the Boston FBI office, the FBI announced that indeed after learning through intercepted phone calls that Mark Rossetti was a confidential informant, the Massachusetts State Police got permission from Delauriers and the Feds to infurtherence their investigation without interference from the FBI because Rossetti was committing crimes the FBI was not aware of, until of course the Staties informed them. The FBI announced that Rossetti was unknowingly terminated as an informant, and the Staties continued with their investigation and came out with an absolute slam dunk. Now what is to become of Rossetti and the info he passed along, what is to become of the 31 co-defendants, what is to become of the everything????? Joseph Gialanella a.k.a "Jason Peters" and Mike Petrillo have filed motions to dismiss the wiretap evidence because the judge who granted the warrats was unaware of Rossetti's FBI informant status, and they seem to think they are going to score on the motion. Let's see what happens.

Sonny I gave u a quick bio on a few of those guys a page or 2 back

Got some info on the type of damage MR can cause. For the curnt family leaDership he will b able to pin the usual gamling, loansharking and extortion charges. Prob enough to send guys away for 5-10 yrs.

But guys who were involved in the salemme - carrozza war in the early 90's shud prob get a passport ready. There was a lot of murders during that power strugle

Barber I think you are correct my man. Anthony Dinunzio and Anthony Spagnolo are probably going to suffer consequences for gambling, loansharking, and extortion, which because they are admitted LCN members will carry out I think 8-20 year sentences depending upon what a jury will covict them upon. But guys like Mike Prochilo Jr, Sr, Darin Bufalino, Billy Angelesco, all these guys that came up during and right after Salemme will be in hot water. Sources say Darin and Mark killed Robert Donati, Richard Donati, Rocco Scali, Barry Lazzarini, Vincent DeNino, and Vincent Arcieri, as well as murders that are not public. These murders are approaching 25 years unsolved, and all of these men either defied and challenged Frank Salemme's leadership, or were tied in with the Corrozza Faction lead by Anthony Ciampi, Mike Romano Sr., and Vincent "Gigi Portalla" Marino. Robert "Bobby" Donati was a confirmed FBI informant, so that might have been the cause of his murder and his brothers so called "disappearance." But what also has to come into question is entrapment on the FBI's part with a high echelon informant like Mark Rossetti, will he be a credible witness not telling the FBI EVERYTHING he was doing, and will he be credible being a known armored car robber and dope shooter. It all stinks to high heaven, the government is better off letting everyone walk.

So...all of revere is screwed???The Lightbody's , spucky, Pryce etc. Also if Carmen isnt gonna get outa Dix anytime soon-that really hurts guys that were coming up under him like Marino and Scarpelli-now they come out to nada.

If the entire family leadership goes down it will b very interesting to c who winds up with the top spots. As far as younger guys go they cud b left out in the cold or they cud step up and really move thru the ranks fast. I guess we will just have to c how things play out

Dont they need someone else to collaborate Mark R, story in court? I think DeeDee in a good spot right now, being on the shelf, probably saved him...

i know scarpelli was hoping to get made next year......now him tori and lilo wont have the carmen behind them...giagrande too

Well to answer everyone's post's respectively, meaning in order, I feel that in Revere Anthony Spagnolo and The Lightbody's are going to get a burn from Mark churping. Anthony Spagnolo was close with Mark the last 10 years, since he was released in the Digiacomo case, so Mark should have something to tell the Feds about his current activities. The statewide grandjury that indicted Mark Rossetti, a few people called in on Gerald Sarro testified that the machines used in "The Bunker" that were illegal poker machines, were operated by the Lightbody's with Mark Rossetti's permission. "The Bunker" is Mark Rossetti's club and building, and the operator was Gerald Sarro. Now if Mark is used as a witness he can basically get the Lightbody's on illegal gambling with the machines. Also if he is a credible witness, Anthony Spagnolo, Carmen Dinunzio, Anthony Dinunzio, Darin Bufalino, Mike Prochilo Sr, Mike Prochilo Jr, Joseph Prochilo, Edward Harris, the Lightbody's, Peter Limone, Robert Deluca, William Angelesco, and Luigi "Baby Shack's" Manocchio I got to think are in trouble. The last men high ranking guys left on the street are Bobby Corozza, Pryce Quintina, Vinny Ferrara, Frederick Simone, and Vincent Gioacchini. The word is Giaocchini is completely shelved and is no longer respected as a soldier, he is a outcast. The guy that will step out is Bobby Corozza, but he currently has state charges pending against him. If he goes down, my guess then would be Ferrara, or someone in Providence like Anthony Parrillo. Now shifting again, I don't see Scarpelli, Giangrande, Lillo Fabo, and Sal Marino getting made until maybe Gregory Costa is elevated because that is originally who they worked for as associates. If Costa becomes a Capo, then they will be inducted to his Regime, this is of course depending on Billy Angelesco, but Mark might have goods on him. We'll see, hope that answers alot guys.

I hate to see the lightbodys go-Johnny did 10 already(there is a younger brother as well ...is he safe?). Lilo burned a lot of bridges when he teamed up with Tori and Johnny S(he and angelesco don't mix). What about Floramo-rosetti must have goods o. Them as well. Christ-an informant for ten years!!! Who is safe????That being said-if Vinny f stays out-LOOK OUT!!!! Vinny you know your stuff.

Yeah I do man I do. I dont know what Mark would have on the Floramo kids, I know he has things on the Lightbody's. David Lightbody is the legitemate one out of the three, I think he's fine.

I know the Floramos had poker machines themselves and there was a beef after the old man died and they had to give them up on a concession-there's Aldo been more than one sit-down over there clubs. The more I think about it- rosetti could really Wipeout 90% of the people in play...no??

Amazing how just one guy can take down so many people. Tough to understand how you could live in that life knowing you can't truly trust anyone.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2011/08/16/sleeping_with_the_enemy_again/

And the bleep is starting to hit the fan. Once Kevin Cullen gets into it, things usually heat up.

there is a couple video s on myfoxboston about this case. Not very informative but then again mike beaudet never really is

That you did Barber, as did Vinnyboy. However, there were some names mentioned that no info was provided on.

bottom line is, these are dangerous people and i for one would stay away from, nor would i fuck with any of these guys from the East Boston/ Revere factions.

Sonny I agree with u. That's y I try to only speak about stuff that is publice knowlede on the site. Growing up where I did I know a lot more of these people than I have spoken about so far. I have heard a lot of stories, dirt and gossip that I won't share hear as I feel its wrong to air these guys dirty laundry. On a website like this I won't post a story about so and so unless its been documented in the press or let out by LE. Better safe than sorry

A US Rep. that participated in the investigation into the FBI's mishandling of Whitey Bulger has voiced similar concerns over the FBI's handling of Mark Rossetti

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2011/08/17/lynch_presses_fbi_on_source/

I think Mike68 posted a similar article.

http://www.myfoxboston.com/dpp/news/undercover/fbi-under-fire-20110816

And here is a third one. Retired state police detectives that dealt with the Feds while pursuing Whitey feel like the Feds haven't learned a thing. Three articles in two days. The crap is hitting the fan in terms of the media and public perception of the FBI. How the FBI could go into bed with this guy after all the bad blood built up with the Whitey farce is unbelievable. Especially when he is most likely a key player in unsolved murders. He was the guy they should have been gunning for.

Dancer to answer your question, State affidavits revealed in 2006 that Carmen Dinunzio was the Underboss of the New England LCN and infurthering in the reports you will read that Billy Angelesco and Gregory Costa were "soldiers" in the LCN who reported to Carmen Dinunzio. Gregory Costa had "associates" who reported to him, and they were Sal Marino and John Scarpelli. They sold O.C's and ran a bookmaking business while paying "rent" to Costa, and Costa kicking up a percentage to Carmen Dinunzio. This is fact because of the reports, and also they are doing time for it, which makes it now fact.

http://www.mafia-news.com/alleged-mafia-...illegal-gaming/

Here is an article linking Costa to DiNunzio and organized crime. He also popped up when Scarpelli and Marino were arrested as the three of them went to shake down the guy at the 99.

Thanks Vinny. That's very interesting! I just never heard his name, that's all... I know what papers say, but as I'm sure you know, the police can make up whatever they want when it comes to that stuff. Is he currently in prison or still walking around?

So Joseph Settipane, Thomas Verona, James Candelino are all very serious guys too?

Joe settipane died around 5-6 years ago. He was a real nice guy who def had some juice on the streets. I have no info on the other 2 guys

http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-7719309.html

Here is what I could find on the murder/hit in Candelino's in Somerville back in 2002. You have to pay for the full article though. I read that Eldridge was also an ex-con. I assume that this is either Joseph Candelino's bar or his family's. Being shot in the face is probably not an accident.....

Interesting stuff. Thanks for posting

Verona and James Candelino are, and were down on State affidavits as bookmakers and rivals for their area of geographic operation. They are not really serious people, in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts vs. Carmen Dinunzio, all the serious people in that case got locked up, Carmen Dinunzio, Billy Angelesco, Gene Giangrande, Gregory Costa, Sal Marino, and John Scarpelli. The Underboss, 2 soldiers, and 3 rising stars within the Mafia in New England.

A Boston news writer postulates that Rossetti may have been working for the FBI for "something like 20 years" Apparantly it was that far back that the DEA had their eyes on Rossetti, but FBI Agent Mike Buckley (identified by the writer as Rossetti's handler) had them back off.
http://www.boston.com/news/local/massach...r_fbi_bungling/

Buckley was also on the team of agents who were later disgraced over their handling of the Bulger/Flemmi affair. In Flemmi's testimony, he identified Buckley as one of the agents that regularly accecpted gifts from he and Bulger, which Buckley denied.

State Police say they have Rossetti on tape catching up with his handler over forty times, and that when asked if Rossetti was a co-operator, the Bureau denied it.

The Bureau, for it's part insisted via press release (as it would) that employee's "did not engage in any inappropriate activity".

Smacks of the same tactics the Boston office had in play during the Bulger/Flemmi fiasco.

http://www.myfoxboston.com/dpp/news/undercover/fbi-informant-questions-linger-20110815

You know who I think about? Peter Limone. Guy does over 30 years for a murder he wasn't in on (despite being a well known gangster, none the less) 'cause an old mutt like H. Paul Rico had a hard-on for him. "Whaddya want, tears?"

If I was Peter Limone, Id make sure they note "time served" as a sentencing. Seriously, if I was a crabby old mobster that'd just done thirty years without bitching out, Id expect to be made Boss of the Family too.

Well the word is Mark Rossetti became very close with Peter Limone over the years, maybe since 2001 when Peter I believe was released. I have to think that Peter is going to get some kind of head ache out of what Mark has said about him. There were several murders and high organized criminal activity under Peter Limone's territory in Medford, Ma. I have to think Rossetti has something to do, or knows about what was, and is, going on over there. But is Mark credible? Is the FBI now credible for that matter?

If it's true that Rossetti has been an informant for years, then I think the FBI has given themselves another big black eye. Just a total lack of crdibility. And if he has bene informing, what has he given them that that allows him to remain out on the street?

Well for the majority of the time he was informing he did some time, like for the weapon possession where he got 51 months. Thats almost 5 years. But I think there is alot we don't know that has got to come out. Rumors are circulating Rossetti might have been paying off the Feds for information and thats how Robert Donati, a known FBI informant, was killed. Also I hear State Police recorded Mark ordering murders of rival street gang members who werent paying "rent," and ordering murders on rival Cosa Nostra members. So one has to say to themselves, if Mark Rossetti is ordering murders and he is an FBI informant, then he would have some kind of protection to do what he wanted and take everything over unscathed. There is going to be alot of trouble, and somehting is telling me the FBI are the ones in the most trouble.

A lot of MR codefendants in the 2011 case are happy about his fucked up relationship with the feds as it helps there lawyers build a entrapment defense

Well the things that I am hearing from the codefendants is that they will do time, just not the maximum amount for their crimes. But the drug charges against some of these people are serious charges and they have a headache that's for sure. But the bookmaking offenses and loansharking offenses can be reduced a great deal because of this whole FBI situation. Some actually anticipate a walk, but the majority dont belive that, and neither do I. Martha Coakley's office and the State Police put alot of time, money, and effort into these 31 individuals, and they will put them away, it's just things have to get resolved with the Prosecution and the Feds in regards to Mark Rossetti. It all depends upon what Mark gave the Feds, what the Feds did and didnt know about his position on the street, and will the Staties use Mark as a witness- and will he be credible.

Vinny what's the word with providence. Last I knew they had bout 15 active soldiers and about half of them are under indictment or in the can at the moment. Is it possible that they will b consolidated to one crew and the New England family will become the Boston family with a crew in RI ???

No I think Providence can hold it's own, besides the rules within the Patriarca Family is the Boss and Underboss both have to be from either the Boston Faction or the Providence Faction. That is the way it has been for years, here are all the administrations to the present. Patriarca/ Angiulo, Patriarca Jr/ Francesco Intiso, Frances Salemme/ Luigi Manocchio, Luigi Manocchio/ Carmen Dinunzio, Anthony Dinunzio/ Robert Deluca. Providence I think has alot of young blood and associates as I listed, but today guys dont get made unless you have proven yourself to an extreme. Look at Mark Rossetti, hes a suspect in 6 murders, been in the can more than out on the street in his life, and he's an informant. I think Providence right now currently has about 10 soldiers on the street with dozens of associates, who report to Joe Achille and Anthony Parillo, and in return they report to Robert Deluca. James Martorano's name has been thrown around with the Providence Faction and he possibly might even be a Captian from the word on the street, so Providence is smaller than Boston, but in a way solidified and must be respected.

vinny not to be argumenative with you but earlier in yur charts you listed deluca as consigliere and now you say he is underboss?? which 1 is it ??

Well Barber I apologize you are right, Bobby Deluca was the Consigliere when Peter Limone was out on the street running things, just after Carmen Dinunzio went away. Now with Limone in 5 year isolation from the Family, Law Enforcment believes Anthony Dinunzio is the Acting Boss, and Deluca serves at his right hand from the Providence Faction. Basically, both Dinunzio brothers, Limone, and Deluca are all part of the Administration of the Family at the present time.

Even with Carmen in jail, and Limone serving his probation.

Ok got it. That's the way I always understood it . That if the boss is in boston then the UB is in prove and vica versa

Well now we know my Willy Johnson story was true. Amazing things being released on Mark Rossetti this week, revelations of him being a heroin dealer himself coming up as a Mafia soldier, him saying on State wiretaps that he wanted protection from the imminent indictments, and his relationship with corrupt FBI agent Mike Buckley, remember who said rumors were spreading Rossetti had agents in his pocket while surrendering information. For the FBI to say they handled this by the book is erroneous, expect more indictments, and dont be surprised if some agents are getting nailed besides wiseguys.

Producer Kevin Rothstein

(FOX 25 / MyFoxBoston.com) - The FBI turned down a chance nearly 20 years ago to bust an up-and-coming mobster who was dealing heroin in East Boston, according to a retired state police investigator.

That up-and-coming mobster, Mark Rossetti, is now a captain in the mob, according to authorities, and has also been a long-time FBI informant, FOX Undercover has learned.

Bill McGreal was an undercover state trooper in 1979 when he was first introduced to Rossetti as someone who could sell him cocaine.

“We're not even past the ‘Hi, how are you?’ stage when he says, ‘I'm just going to explain something to you. If something goes wrong with this deal, something is going to go seriously wrong for youse guys’” McGreal recalled.

“This kid is 21 or 22, something like that. He's right out of central casting from The Godfather. This is incredible. I have never dealt with anybody that young that was trying to act so mobbed up,” McGreal told FOX Undercover reporter Mike Beaudet.

McGreal says he later bought a small bag of cocaine from Rossetti, but the case never went anywhere.

That’s because the next day, Rossetti went to jail after pleading guilty to assaulting and nearly killing an off-duty state police trooper.

Then, more than a decade later, around 1992, a drug user came to McGreal with an offer. He said Rossetti was dealing heroin, and he offered to go undercover and buy drugs directly from Rossetti in exchange for help getting out of jail.

This time though, Rossetti was no up-and-coming wise guy. His standing with the mob had grown, along with his record, which by then included a conviction for helping rob an armored car at gunpoint.

“So I decide, being a good guy, the FBI is looking at members of La Cosa Nostra. This guy is either made or he's about to be made, and I have an informant who tells me he can do hand-to-hand sales with Mark Rossetti, and he says he's willing to do it.”

McGreal, an FBI agent and the informant met.

“My informant lays out clearly his dealings, heroin trafficking, purchasing heroin from Rossetti…he explains more with Rossetti's dealings, and says he's more of an up-and-coming heroin mover in the East Boston area,” McGreal said.

A few hours after the meeting, the FBI called McGreal to talk about the case.

“I'm told, ‘We're going to take a pass on Rossetti.’ And I'm saying to myself, this guy is really the guy who has got a propensity for violence, with crimes of violence in the armored car and assault with intent to murder with the trooper. He's got a drug distribution thing and now he's dealing heroin, and he's moving around pretty good in East Boston, and they're going to pass on him? It didn't make any sense.”

“Hearing now that Rossetti was an informant for the FBI, does it make sense?” asked FOX Undercover’s Beaudet.

“It would make sense because if you got a guy dealing heroin and he's either in the mob or he's about to go into the mob, what better time to take him off?” McGreal replied.

McGreal says it’s likely that Rossetti's arrest then would have prevented future crimes. But what angers him more is that the FBI would go into business with someone convicted of nearly killing a fellow trooper.

“Part of the outrage on this to me is you got a guy who almost killed a trooper. Almost killed him. And then he goes out and he holds up an armored car…. They have to be looking the other way. It has to be the same as (James “Whitey”) Bulger. He's more important to us as a top echelon informant than he is as the target of a FBI investigation,” McGreal said.

Another part of Rossetti's background the FBI was willing to overlook is that Rossetti is considered a suspect in several murders.

While it's not clear exactly when Rossetti became an informant, a defense attorney in the current case said in court recently that Rossetti was caught with an FBI agent's beeper number in his pocket in 1992, around the same time that McGreal offered him up to the FBI.

The FBI declined to comment for this story, but the agency has said its handling of the informant in this case has been by the book.



Read more: http://www.myfoxboston.com/dpp/news/undercover/fbi-ignored-informant%E2%80%99s-heroin-dealing-20110824#ixzz1W5G9BD4a

I was informed that martarano is not a capo. Never was and never will b according to these guys.

who are "these Guys," North End, Revere, East Boston????

A couple N End guys in there 60's who def know there stuff

Well not to argue Barber, but Jimmy Martorano was a Captain under Frank Salemme, and if you read Frank Salemme's indictment with Bulger, Flemmi, Bobby Deluca, Johnny Martorano, and Jimmy Martorano, you would see the FBI had Jimmy as a "Captain" in the Patriarca Family at the time. Jimmy is no rat either and is just as dangerous as his brother, and Jimmy has a great sense for business. Personally, I would have thought Jimmy would be in the administration by now judging by his charecteristics. I heard from some people that Jimmy was a Captain, now he may have hung it up down there in Quincy, but I dont think he has.

Vinny you prob are correct. Now that u say that the guy I got my info from was doing a bid during the saleme times. I also know he was opposed to salemme 's position as boss therefore he prob dosent recognize that entire admin. Since they were his rivals for lack of a better word

Barber the guy you talked to, sounds like he has the same name as me.

Here's hoping that guy sticks around after the indictments fly.....

Well I think it's safe to say that Vinny will still be on the street after the indictments. Even though Mark was under Vinny and them other guys years ago, Mark shined under Salemme in the 1990's. So Vinny will still be around.

I dont wanna release the name of my source on a site like this. Lets just say the guy is a life long friend of my father who has been in the game longer than i been alive

Thats o.k, I wouldnt want you to say who you talked to either, look at these guys writing on the site, who are these guys and those guys, the cops watch everything I'm only going to talk about what is public, and give some details no one knows that is going to be made public.

Well said vinny . I totally agree with u.

Im glad you do sir. Well there is a rumor that just came across my desk that a well known made member of the Patriarca Family, who already is serving time, was pulled out of his sell to face more serious charges, and the word is it's because of Mark Rossetti. Here it comes everyone, the rat is starting to make the dominos fall.

My guess is the Cheeseman is going to have to push back that home cooked meal for another couple/few years. Whether or not it's this guy is another story.

I was going to ask how you got the guy to speak somewhat openly about things but this answers that. One general question, when these guys are on parole, how often do they try to keep their noses clean vs. try to get right back into it and take their chances?

my guess is carmen or billy

No it's not them Barber. I'll give you a hint it's someone related to that scumbag Mark Rossetti.

Vinny here is what I been thinking. Even though the current leadeship did a good job of stabilizing the family over the last decade I feel there are 3 guys on the street right now 2 in boston and 1 in prov that cud really rebuild it if they wanted to. These guys are all old school gangster who were big earners and powerhouses on the street b4 doing serious time. When hit with serious sentences they all kept there mouths shut and did the time. They are the definition of gangster and if u combine there brains and balls with the many young associates out there I think they cud really put things back together if they want. All this is assuming MR decimates the current administration

Just wanted to hear your thoughts on this

Well the one guy I think as all the proper tools to lead this organization for the future is Biagio Digiacomo, the former Capo Regime from the East Boston faction who now resides in Waltham, Ma with his family and business. But the guy has come out and said he is retired and no longer wants any part of that life, can you blame him? Then theres Jimmy Martorano who is very business savy, and showed it under Howie Winter and Frank Salemme, Jimmy built Chandlers from the groud up, and made Salemme a fortune. Besides these two the only other's I can see are maybe Bobby Corozza, Vinny Ferrara, and maybe Anthony Parillo down in Providence.

I feel very safe in saying BD is done with the life

Oh yeah he's a self made millionair in the restaurant business, what reason would make him go back to that lifestyle?

It'll be a new day for somebody. With the amount of people in danger of indictments-whoever is left has an opportunity rarely seen.

It seems rumors are sworling several people that are made members and associates of the Patriarca Family that are already in prison, have been pulled out to face the music on other charges, one is confirmed, and it is because of Mark Rossetti. Is the FBI going to swoop up the Patriarca's in one swoop out of embarassment??? It's starting now, fasten your seat belt folks we are in for a ride.

i wonder who these made guys are, damm i never found out if the saint turned rat!! they keep pushing his court date back

Well the Saint is supposingly the made guy that is going to testify against Luigi "Baby Shacks" Manocchio in his case. The Saint admitted in accordance with his plea deal that at the time of his extortions of Taunton, Ma bookmakers, Manocchio was his superior and the "Boss" of the Patriarca Family.

yeah i know but they never explicitly said it will be the saint who will testify they just said they have "made members" who will testify, he did say luigi was the boss but i want to see if he cut a deal

Not sure, let me tell you, everything is on hold for other guys I know that are either up for sentencing, or going through court motions on their cases because of Mark Rossetti. Mark knows alot about Manocchio, so lets see what happens.

this is what i hate about mob cases they always take sooooo long to follow through look at tommy shots, joel cacace, etc

Well in this case you have Mark Rossetti who was informing all these years, so the FBI are putting cases and charges together based on what he gave the FBI, so this is why this State case is taking so long, plus other cases.

yep its always all these diff cases and this and that its just frustrating and im not even one of the guys charged lol i cant even imagine how these guys must feel waiting for these charges to be resolved

Vinny any idea which people got lugged from there cells and what the charges were ? Its no big deal to post that it will b public knowledge soon enough

Relatives of Mark Rossetti thats all I can say at the moment.

didnt had the time to follow the mark rosseti thing but is he and the fbi in trouble? or is the patriarca's who are the only ones in shit right now?

Well nothing is being released on what the FBI knew of what Rossetti was doing while being a confidential informant. Nothing is being released on what Mark gave the Feds over the last 10 years. And the State Police and the FBI are saying everything was constructed by the book. Until some information by the FBI is released, then we will know if the FBI, Mark Rossetti, or the Patriarcas are in trouble. My opinion everyone in the Patriarcas are in deep shit on what he gave them. So their screwed no matter what.

ok fair enough. Now i gotta make some calls to find out who this rat is related to other than his cousin stephen LOL

Richie gillis is mark's cousin and him and darin are going to get charged with the vinny arcieri murder that took place back in 1992.

Do you know that for sure Chico?

Wasnt there myself, but lets just say that this is a very strong rumor thats been circulating for years, also im already hearing that darin is talking himself he was moved out of mci concord to shirley medium, and his wife is trying to sell the house in winthrop, sounds like he's going into witsec. I did time with alot of wiseguys from the bonanno family and when sal vitale flipped almost everyone in that family flipped too, same thing is going to happen here just watch, and richie gillis is rumored to have been an informant himself people had discovery

Bobby carrozza's son bobby jr and sean vetere had discovery in thier drug case that said richie gillis is an informant, I read that myself when I was being detained down plymouth and we were all in the same pod and yes mark rossetti was there himself and when we approached mark with this he said he didnt beleive it that richie was his cousin and just said a bunch of stuff to let the feds release him out of custody, little did anyone know mark was the biggest CI at the time.

Well if Mark Rossetti, Stephen Rossetti, Richie Gillis, and Darin Bufalino are all talking, then that pretty much puts the nail in the coffin for the Patriarcas.

ya this will be like a domino effect alot more guys are gonna flip before this is all over and alot of guys will go down.

The streets will be wide open after this is over. Question is who will step up and take over the rackets???

Yeah I dont think a soul will be out there, maybe 10 guys between Boston and Providence, and whats left to build the Family up is incapable of doing that before being taken down by the law.

some1 will step up there is way to much money out there and some1 will take a shot at it. Mayb it will b a young associate who has the balls and drive to try and take things over.

All i know for sure is this is going 2 b a interesting year or 2

Well now reports are starting to come in that indictments are going to be released before December of this year.

There is gonna be a lot mire elbow room for the independents out there....dealers who were pressured to pay tax or were robbed are gonna be able to stretch their legs now. There are a few Malden guys almost done with bids that I can think of off the bat. POWER VACCUM.

What Malden guys do you think will fill the void?

There are a couple of guys finishing bids_(one in dix and one doing state time) if it wasnt for a contempt charge for keeping quiet during a recent(and continuing) grand jury he would be done with his state time. The kid in dix is out in june. I dont think these guys are gonna take over everything but they both are well known and will assuredly attempt to capatilize next summer.

im sure you know them vinny....also-whats your take on the grand jury on a certain prominent businessman???

I know the grand jury your talkin about on the fat kid. Whats my take, well you mess with the stuff your goin down that simple. I know who your talkin about from Malden one'd down in Rhode Island and he wont talk on the fat kid right?

Ya vin he won't take on the fat kid-rumor was they were pressing him hard and he may get another contempt. The kid from Malden is just a good example of an independent that could rise to prosperity....a kid with balls and chip on his shoulder.

U think they have enough to lug the fat kid??

Well I think the black kid from Malden from what it seems makes their case against him, and he just wont talk. If that is the case it depends upon the kid from Malden to get an indictment, then the Feds wont get their wish. But I think they have some info and evidence, but this is a well respected business man, the Feds have to be dead on ball to produce charges.

No way he talks.

He has done a few bids-and even though they are messing with his release now due to the contempt I can't see him yapping. Kid has stu cazzo. The other kid fr Malden will definitely go right back to work when he gets out as well.

And it seems barber knows his stuff but richie gillis......wow.

Summize on who the other Malden kid is besides the black one?

Got caught with like 400 lbs -italian kid fr the same malden projects as the black kid..he's in fort dix out in june. bumped heads with tori

All I can think of is Angelesco that you are talkin about, is that right? We can talk about him it's not like he's an unknown.

Not Billy (I thought Billy and Tori got along)-this kid is close to the black kid and his brother is real close w the fat kid. We don't have to play a guessing game I was using him as an example-I'm sure there are a few more around waiting for the chance to work without "restrictions".

No I dont know who it is and I dont want you to say.

You do agree that guys like the black kid will prosper...without the Revere faction(which does the most taxing and seems to be closest to the streets) around. You really think richie is talking too???? Alot of good guys are gonna get pinched.

Well Chico99 said Gillis is a rat, and from what Chico had to say it seems believable. As far as the black kid, I hear the Feds are tryin to give him 10-15 years for not cooperating to give them the fat kid. So even if Revere goes under, where will he make a buck from the can. By the time he's sentenced, the fat kid will be in the can as well.

10-15....that's a hard press.

Yeah he just wont talk and they are tired of it, they want the fat kid extremely bad, and they know he can give them the fat kid. I think the black kid is gone, and so isnt the fat kid.

I know both these guys real good. The blk kid from malden is a solid stand up guy he won't say a word .

The fat guy is a poser in my opinoin. He tries to portray a cerrtin image that I don't think he has the balls to pull off. He is a super nice generous guy but he is not what he tries to portray in my opinoin

The fat kid is doing a great job of appearing worry free I'll tell ya. Black kid had a nice run I suppose...t

Yeah the fat kid is doin his best to stay worry free believe me. He's going to get snatched up so fast his head will spin, I'm hearing more and more on the street, now I guess the Feds don't need the black kid to indict the fat kid.

U think the fat will stand tall?

If hes fat he ain't gonna stand tall..Imagine the feds offerinng him a feast of hot roast pork with brocali rabe with some penne pasta, and some long hots.. that fat pig would eat all that shit n cannolis....thats how they flip the fat mobsters...

They use the method that method man did to get answers when people from his drug gang didn't pay up

I'm gonnna keep feedin you, andd feeding you..thens sew your aSS#hole shut" - Method Man

depends on the time . 5 yrs or less probably. Anymore than 5 i doubt it

Well the charges are presumably going to be cocain trafficking and distribution, as well as money laundering and RICO. So this all inclusive with a plea deal is 15-20 years with asset forfeiture's, property, restaurants, bank accounts, everything. He's in other words fucked.

u think he ties in w the guy who owns the building his business operates in......for his sake i hope not.

Don't know who that guy is, and to be honest not in the fat kids circle so I dont know much about him other than what's on the street. If what is being talked about comes down, just know he is in serious trouble.

Who's the guy that owns the building?

It seems we have new rumors sworling on Mark Rossetti's status as a paid informant for the FBI. It seems Rossetti had developed a close relationship with the New York Families, in paticular the Genovese Family, which has territory in Springfield, Ma. It seems that not only New England, but New York awaits indictments as well, and I'm told high ranking Mafia figures within Cosa Nostra.

He stretched all that way??

Yes that is what is on the street, and that his heroin pipeline stretched from New York to Boston, with permission from New York guys to have his business going from New York to Boston.

i wonder which west side guys are going to get indicted, when should we expect these to come down?

Well my information is pretty good, I'm told Genovese guys were giving Rossetti permission to deal with New York heroin dealers and suppliers. In his state case, the dealers involved with Rossetti were getting the stuff from New York and it was shipped to Boston. I dont know if they are West Side guys, the permission could have came from Arthur Nigro who already got life for the Adolfo Bruno hit. Maybe he is awaiting more charges, which would be pointless.

All this and Rossetti still gets charged???

pointless? doubt it theres always a point, maybe they want to squeeze him with the threat of the death penalty

case in point, look at basciano, already a life sentence and still was tried and tried to get the needle the govt never quits

i seriously doubt it. That guy owns so much property and has so much $ its insane. He wud have to b the dumbest mother fucker on the planet to get involved in anything illegal

Well in your example you are right Dapper D, but Nick Scarfo Sr, who is already serving a life sentence, was or is going to be left out of an insider trading indictment that him and his son orchestrated. Nigro though is a pest to the Feds from what Anthony Arillota gave to them. Nigro was a Boss and was making people, ordering murders, the Feds want guys like him. But I am still not sure if it was him dealing with Mark Rossetti, but it will all come out.

Are you talking about the fat kid, or the people who own his building???

I was talking bout the guy who owns the building

well that remains to be seen if nicky sr will be left out, they might try him and move him to a more secure facility or use the threat of that against nicky jr to get him to plea/flip

You don't think the guy that owns the building still supplements his income??? I sort of had the notion it was in his blood. No?

what do you mean? J and S? If they what with their income?

I don't c scarfo or nigro being brought up on new charges unless they are murder related

Oh boy here we go again. Ladies and Gentlemen I am sorry to report that yet another Mafia informant has come out of the woodwork in New England, though it has not hit the news stands yet. Robert "Bobby" Deluca the alleged Acting Underboss for Carmen Dinunzio, and serving as Anthony "Tony" Dinunzio's right hand in the administration of the Patriarca Family has been the subject of rumors swurling from Providence up to Boston that he also like Mark Rossetti is a paid informant for the FBI. This is a devastating blow, worse than Rossetti, the entire crew in Rhode Island is subject to indictment, along with everyone in Boston because of Mark Rossetti. The guys in Connecticut have a problem, as well as guys in New York who are being kept secret from the public. Deluca unlike Rossetti was made with Raymond Jr and his brief administration, but shined ultimately under Frank Salemme like Rossetti in the 1990's. It seems Salemme's reign really self destructed the 100 year old Cosa Nostra in Massachusetts, not only did it spark a civil war among warring factions, but it brought people into the picture that should have been under the frame. Robert Deluca is now supposedly the made guy that will testify against Luigi Manocchio along with Anthony St.Laurent and Mark Rossetti, this is huge, and you heard it hear first, like dominoes, everyone is going to fall, never to be brought back up again, unless a young prodigy can re-stabilize a Family that can't stabilize itself and ran it right into the ground.

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW.

if this is true providence is done. Boston may be able to stand the rosetti hit due to the fact they have some older guys who i can guarantee were not involved with MR. Question is do they want the big chair but providence will b destroyed

NO WAY!
It is huge.
Man...see ya providence...

It's not the roman empire coming undone. Just some more high-school dropouts doing what they do best, getting by. FBI would make a deal with hannibal lecter if it suited their purpose.

Hold on...can we get a link or something?

Don't have one yet, but it is going to come out, Deluca is cooperating as we speak.

Deluca a rat???? wowwwwwwwww

if these 2 guys wipe out all the active guys it will b interesting to c who steps up.

Does a older semi-retired guy come out of retirement ?? Or some young guys grab there balls and step up??

This is the first Ive heard of Bobby DeLuca having flipped. Interesting no doubt. But are there any articles or press releases confirming?

And dont ever be "sorry to report" Vinny. These guys are for the most part scumbags, and every guy that flips gives us that much more info and brings us that much closer to their decimation.

Somewhat ironic considering the Saint wanted to whack DeLuca because Deluca accused him of being a rat. Every man for himself. No more honor amongst thieves if there ever was. Man, he was the last one I expected. Figured he was a candidate for boss depending on who went down.

Exactly!!!

Rumors pointed to the Saint cooperating as well which remains to be seen

at this point might as well have the Genovese take over the family and start over haha

At this point I bet the rank and file Patriarca guys left would agree.

so the fbi flipped deluca, rossetti, and the saint to get luigi whos probably going to croak by the time this goes to trial?

its obv to me they should have been going after deluca and rossetti and not flipping them to get an 80+ year old boss the guys on the street that are younger are more dangerous but its a net they throw and they get whoever they want, damm this is crazy info

Well you might see New York here with the remnants of the Family to keep the money flowing in, but I really cannot predict a future for this family, because right now, there isnt one to really predict because there's nothing.

It's a wrap........is deluca still out and about business as usual at the moment???

From what I hear he and his family were removed from their homes either by the FBI or the Rhode Island State Police, nobody knows where he is, he's long gone and protected.

Nobody is safe now.....

+1 on this.

It's be interesting to see the Genovese take over a lot of the mid-west/eastern families. Essentially anything The Outfit doesn't control. Put some influence in Detroit, Cleveland/Youngstown, Pittsburgh and hell...St. Louis/KC --- if such families still exist.

One has to realize that by spreading and branching out brings tremendous heat from the FBI. The Gambinos had crews as early as 2008 in California, Denver, Florida, New Jersey, New York, and Connecticut, and in Italy. When the Feds realized this they launched operation "Old Bridge," and took down 80+ Mafia members and associates. Now some guys were nailed earlier in California and Denver where they had some guys running high stakes card games, drugs, and loansharking. But when the Feds realized the Gambinos still had tenticles like that they swooped in hard.

i think we need to wait some time and c how thee MR case pans out b4 we give up New England to the NY families. In my opinoin if deluca has flipped providence is over. All the major players will b gone. LM, EL, chppy, bobo will all be in the can .

In my opinoin boston has more guys with juice left and will take the hit better and keep on going. They have some young guys in the can that will b home soon, some powerhouses from the 70-80's who have been laying low that may decide to pounce on the chance to take over everything and there is a few of young associates on the streets that are capable of becoming players.

The New England family may become the Boston family but they will not totally disappear . U can bet on that

i see your point but regardless there will be fbi heat and with the dissolution/consolidation of other families that will undoubtedly bring more heat on the families that are left standing (NY)

California? Any links man?

BTW, operation "Old Bridge" was a Media-oritented crackdown. I think that 80% of those indicted are already out. At least on this side of the Atlantic.
Heck, even Italian Dom was busted...and here he is in control of the family.

vinny they mentioned you in the newspapers, check it out!

Everybody else uses cyberspace to circulate false rumors about their rivals, so it was probably only a matter of time until the underworld discovered the infinite possibilities of the Internet.
A rumor went around this week that one of the leading gangsters in what’s left of organized crime in New England had flipped, become a rat. First it was just a whisper, but then it appeared on the Internet, posted by some guy with the moniker “vinniegorgeous,” after a New York gangster.
“Oh boy here we go again. Ladies and Gentlemen I am sorry to report that yet another Mafia informant has come out of the woodwork in New England, though it has not hit the newsstands yet.”
Nicely done. He’s giving you the scoop, and the fact that it hasn’t appeared in the papers yet doesn’t mean it’s not true, it means that you’re getting the news first, ahead of all the squares.
Is this true? I don’t know. I called a guy who’s close to the alleged rat and he says he saw him last weekend.
“I don’t believe a word of it,” my friend said.
Here’s the genesis of the rumor. The guy hasn’t been seen for a couple of weeks. Now, in the old days, everyone would have jumped to the same conclusion: Somebody whacked him. You’d ask around and some wiseguy would take the stogie out of his mouth, shake his head slowly and rasp, “He’s gone to California.”
Gone to California. Or, as they said in “The Godfather,” “He sleeps with the fishes.”
Nowadays, though, if you go MIA, the wiseguys jump to a completely different conclusion. They figure you flipped and have vanished into the Witness Protection Program. You’re now a hardware store owner in Iowa.
So “vinniegorgeous” says that this guy (who I’m not naming because I can’t nail down the story, if indeed there is a story) “will now testify against” another recently indicted mobster.
Saying things like that is a good way to get somebody shot.
Of course rumors didn’t start with the Internet. Remember Zip Connolly, the corrupt FBI agent now doing 40 years in Florida on a murder rap? He got Frank Salemme shot by (anonymously) predicting a gang war on the front page of this newspaper. Two days later, Salemme’s rivals struck first, gunning him down in the parking lot of the Saugus IHOP.
But planting a newspaper story requires a middleman — a reporter. With the Internet, vinniegorgeous can just sit at home in front of his screen and create just as much havoc without talking to a single soul.
These rumors affect stock prices all the time on Wall Street. It’s why doctors just sealed their Internet files. It’s why you hear new companies advertising on the radio, offering to clean up what’s said about businesses online.
“You heard it hear (sic) first,” vinniegorgeous wraps up. “Like dominoes, everyone’s going to fall, never to be brought back up again, unless a young prodigy can stabilize a Family that can’t stabilize itself.”
A young prodigy? A messiah. Like, maybe, vinniegorgeous? Probably not. I figure, this was written either by somebody who doesn’t like the guy he’s accusing of being a rat, or a cop.
I’d bet on the hood, but I could be wrong.

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/columnists/view.bg?articleid=1366720&format=text

http://fivefamiliesnyc.blogspot.com/

Not bad Vinny, Howie Carr is on your trail!

Hey,just signed up to ask a few questions...i was in Boston for 9 years,for thebig dig and have a lot of frienas and familly in Ny...my main questionis about winthrop...i owned a place there and had plenty of small time friends,connected in one way or another...my question is this, what kind of racketts were run in Winthrop? I can only see the drug scene having any impact...and tell me,if anyone can was that chinese reasturaunt in eb a mob hangout??? I had suspicions...thank you in advance,if these arent out of line question

The reasuraunt was the Kailua,i lved on atlantic in winthropthe kailua was on saratoga...i extremely miss saretarpios...insane sausage!!!

He is an associate who is currently doing time. He was arrested with a Johnny something (name escapes me). They were both linked to Greg Costa. I'd call him an aspiring wiseguy. Not sure where he stands in the big picture. Some others on here would know.

Holy shit, I can believe this website warrants an article in the respected Boston Herald regarding who, or who may not be a rat.

Damn!!

Howie carr is a asshole. His work is unprofessional and childish. When carmen was going thru his court process Howie constantly wrote articles making childish cracks at carmens weight. Carmen is prob 1 of the nicest people I have ever met and I don't care what bisiness he is in the guy is a true class act. So to make cracks at his weight problems in the paper was totally uncalled for and unprofessional . Report the facts and keep yur 3rd grade comments to yurself

Will somebody,please answer my questions,as frivolous as they may seem...thank you in advance!

He didn't even say which VinnyGorgeous it was.

Anybody who wants to make a deal can do so by contacting the Massachusetts State Police Special Investigating Unit. Keep in mind time is running out to do so. Me and Trooper Orlando have enough on all of you to lock you up for a very long time. Ask around about me, I treat my informants like gold but time is a wasting.

There really is a Pasquale Russolillo with the Massachusetts State Police. He got a mention on American Mafia.

http://www.americanmafia.com/mob_busters.html

You think Sonny Mercurio was a shocker, what about his best friend in the whole world "Richie Floramo". He gave us so much information we are still going over it. It took all we could to keep Ferrara from killing him, he knew he was just as responsible for the Mafia ceremony bugging as was Sonny. Vinny had him dropped from a Captain to a soldier when he got out. Name the only 2 people at the ceremony never to get pinched after. Vinny Federico who was doing a life bid at the time and Richie Floramo, he ain't that smart to stay out of trouble without our help.
The offer vstill stands come on in an cooperate or go down hard. Tick Tick Tick.

So.... How long til deluca a confirmed informant??

No shit.??

Bits and pieces Pat,bits and pieces...

He spelled it lowercase like vinny but left out the "217". Still he quoted the actual post. Verbatim.



Interesting, but are we actually to believe the Mass. State Police are going to try flipping guys by posting online?

Im too cynical to take "Pat" seriously at this point. Anybody with Google could have found the name. Still...its kinda niggling. Ill definitely be watchng this thread with interest.

This is awesome. It's like the mafia version of streetgangs.com

Definitely a legitimacy or a street cred to this site now

Has anyone heard from Vinny since the article on Sunday? Uh oh...

Nope. Thats the funny thing.

Remember the point Carr made in the article? "Saying that sort of thing is liable to get one shot"...? Or something to that effect?

Did vinnie get in trouble with his alleged "insider"? Nah...dya think? Cmon. Really? But then...hmmm.



I love it, I love it. First Vinny, then Carr, now Pat...whats the chance this was all a put on, and Vinny and Pat are actually the same guy...? Slim to none? Pretty damn high? Am I way too cynical? Too jaded?

Nah, couldn't be that...

^^^ i thought the same thing that vinny might also be pat...

idk we need some type of confirmation

maybe another poster who lives in that area can confirm if this is true? where are the new england guys?

Made a phone call to a guy on the outside of things and everything claimed is street kmowlege...so if it is leo he better drop some unknowns...

No, he's an impostor, and has been banned.

Was it vinnyg?

How can we b so sure he was a imposter ??

Because the real deal emailed me telling me so. He even said he might get the Attorney General after him. Besides, the impostor posted from a Vegas library, not Massachusetts.

Hmmm... someone else posting here is from Vegas, too... Hmmm........

Good work, Geoffy. Now go get 'em!

It could just be a coincidence

Really? The real guy sent you an e-mail. Boy, he must really be tracking this guy.


TIS

Still no further word on Bobby D??

Great work J Geoff.



At first I just assumed you meant the real deal mafia forum, like they were having a similar problem or something. But are you actually referring to the "real deal" as the actual Pat Russolillo? Holy hell.

I swear I saw "vinnygorgeous217" online for a few minutes earlier today, but it looks like he logged on and left before responding to anything. Is it because he was banned too? Was the other Vegas IP address his?

This whole thing has me amazed. At the (possible) stupidity of some, and the notion that an actual newspaper article quoted a post verbatim.

I love this site.

JI am new here and i am posting from Vegas as well... I hope i am no stirring the pot.if i am i completely appologize. That is the last thing i want to do. I found this link from howies article,and read.then i realized and recgnized Winthrop.that is where i lived whil i worked on the big dig. All i wanted to know was other than drugs what other rackets could have been going on? There arent that many bizs going on out there.but when the dig was completed work dried up. So i came to vegas,and now work has since drid sorry for any confusion i might have caused because this board

Yeah, holy hell lol -- and Vinny's not involved. And now I know it wasn't lorenzo

Thank you jg...i didnt want a ban...ive read alot of books, and enjoy this site so far.the stories about "todays mafia" are awesome.i am very far from a trouble maker,i dont know enough anyway to start anything anyway...lol:-)

I TOLD YOU ALL THAT VINNY WAS A PUNK.....LMAO

Whatup boys!Im new on here & this is very interesting. Just a couple questions. Anyone hear anything new on Mike Prochilo Jr.? Im very confused with the fact so many organized criminals are being outed as informants and/or full blown testifying witnesses! I also dont understand how there is no dividing line between law enforcement & criminals! I know alot of guys from stretches Ive done in prison over the years. Anyone know or heard of Matteo Trotto from Worcester? This guy is a very serious individual but I feel he was railroaded very unfairly & is now doing a couple decades upstate! He played fair in his world & never did scumbag moves & part of his demise was due to myths! Does anyone know if John "Bubba" Good from Cambridge or Dave Weichel from Southie is still alive in prison?

B-b-b-bumpity-bump-bump.

At over 10 pages long and nearly 30,000 views, I had to. This is/was easily one of the most popular threads on the whole BB for a good while.

Funny things is that JLaFratta was indeed saying from the beginning to not buy into Vinnie's claims. But Vinnie was so...compellingly sure of himself. And now? Vinnie's gone. Not even a pleasent go fuck yourself? After all that?

Was he really just that way off? Was DeLuca in California the whole time, having already let anyone who really needed to know that he's still down? Did Vinnie jump on it too early, and misread it? Is he really that embarrassed?

So many unanswered questions at this point. And no response at all from Vinnie. JGeoff says Vinnie wasn't a part of the whole Russolillo thing...at least not though IP address. And I swear Ive seen "vinnygorgeous217" in the "Who's Online" box a bunch of times. Ive waited for a response (since obviously he took the time to log on) but so far nothing.

Whaddya gonna do? Two tears in a bucket.

hey chicco99 and all the rest of u spineless cowards who hide behind your screen names FACT1 dnarin n his wifes home in winthrop isnot listed anywhere forsale FACT2 there was an internal investigation conducted by D.O.C. in concord prison about something happening in the prison But Darin was cleared of any incidences happening in concord prison Yes He is in shirley med and remains in population as he has upon being incarcerated since 10-20-10 so feel free to drop him a line and let him know whats on line about him would love to see how many cowards would write him. Not one of you sorry ass moreons could even be a quarter of the MAN he is so f--- off

Vinny was right about Rossetti, let's wait and see on DeLuca.

Yeah, I actualy repeated one time to someone what I heard here about Darin ... one time! I dont believe it! The D.O.C. does moves all the time & not all of them are for shaky reasons! That guys a big dude man! Very smart, intelligent, & calculating! I agree with you "Moreballs ..." and thats that I dont see too many people saying that kinda stuff to him especialy in reaching distance! You definetly gotta be careful who you gossip about & you better make sure its the truth!

This post was so important, it had to be posted twice! So here it is a third time!

LMAO

Learn how to spell before calling others idiots, BTW

OH! And welcome to the boards from the Head "Moreon" himself! And watch yourself.... we don't talk to others like that here.

Darin Bufalino barely even got a mention in this thread.

For the record, was it Vinnie that "broke" the story or did he just post about it? Ill have to go back and check.

I have dated every news story,it was vinny...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PjndYyaxK4

so a poster on the real deal says that he got confirmation from another real deal member who he trusts that deluca is cooperating and in fbi protective custody...

This is gonna be a death blow- between Rossetti and deluca there won't be any pieces left to be put back together.

new article on deluca up on my blog

http://fivefamiliesnyc.blogspot.com/

i think it is pretty obvious now he is in protective custody

unless he got whacked out and the family went on the lam which has a .1% chance of being the case

No doubt about it. Malinowski is the reporter who did the great expose on the New Enlgand mob a few years ago. He knows his stuff.

here is the Providence Journal article about Bobby Deluca possibly turning rat for anyone interested...

http://www.projo.com/news/content/WHERES_BOBBY_10-03-11_98QKD10_v28.6805c.html

So is it fair to say that if a guy like DeLuca can be flipped then it's pretty well lights out for LCN?

"Lights out" is a stretch but he could do a lot of damage to the Patriarcas, especially in the Providence faction.

"Lights out" is always a big word combination.
He can hurt them big time, but he's spent most of this past decade in the can...

I think with the combo of Rosetti and DeLuca, the worst case scenario for the family would be its reduction to one of those non-viable families without a structure.

I forgot he was inside until a few years ago so at least that should limit the damage he can do.

I guess my point is, from what I've gleaned, this is a well-respected guy, who's done his time in the past, who no-one would have suspected of playing both sides until recent developments. If a guy like that is gonna go over to the dark side, who's above suspicion? In the medium to long-term, I would say this bodes very ill for LCN countrywide.

Rosetti gives them Boston...all Bobby d has to do is sew up a few loose ends on the providence side and the Feds are golden. Who of any stature is gonna be left after a captain and an underboss spill the beans??

where is Limone in all this? He must be shitting himself.

What about DiNunzio? and the whole Boston faction?

Rosetti reported to Carmen so that can't be good for him. Ten years as a ci has gotta mean bye bye Boston faction. Peter might get charged but I bet he doesn't do a day.

Not sure about Limone. He's on five years probation for his recent activity. He was in jail during the mob war and so probably is clear of any murder charges. He'll be 80 by the time his probation ends. Maybe they'll let him slide.

as long as he can be charged they wont care his age, case in point

the living legend of lcn sonny franzese

Habitually I refer to the Patriarcas as the New England family. But, in reality now, it would be more correct to call them the Boston/Providence family since they've had very little activity in Connecticut over the past decade. Depending on the damage done, DeLuca's cooperation could possibly decimate the Providence faction. Rossetti's impact on the Boston faction would be less because it's bigger. With the recent busts in both the Patriarca and Bruno families, it wouldn't be surprising to see them shortly become what the DeCavalcantes appear to be - bordering on non-viability.

Even given the larger size of the Boston faction if rosetti gives them everything he knows there really isn't a major player safe. Considering the reach of "conspiracy" everyone and their mother could be done.

Yeah... the Patriarcas will still be around, but in the same way that Kansas City is still around. Maybe not quite that bad.

This has happened before with the Scarfo mob when Tommy Del and Leonetti, a captain and an underboss, flipped. It was pretty much a wipeout. Sure the family was still around afterwards, but it was very diminished and never really recovered. All you had left were old Bruno soldiers, complete morons like the Stanfa-ites, and the young relatives of convicted Scarfo underlings.

If this will be true...I wonder how will NYC react?

The Genoveses have a crew in Springfield and one in CT.
Even if is almost gone after Arrillotta and Tranghese flipped, there are still some guys around.

The Gambinos have a crew in CT as well.

Sooner or later, the Patriarca and Bruno families will be like how the Buffalo or Detroit families are now. Not quite as bad as Kansas City.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Genovese Springfield crew is decimated. Every known guy up there is either dead or in prison. The fact that they made a guy like Arillotta suggests it was slim pickings up there as far as manpower. People say, "There will always be gambling, etc. in Springfield." Well there's gambling in Arkansas too but the mob isn't there. It's a question of the family having the resources to move in again and if it's worth it at this point.

I'm also not sure the Genovese family has a standing crew in Connecticut. The only activity involving them in the state over the past decade was Ianniello controlling the trash business through James Galante. But, of course, Ianniello is based in NY.

The Gambino's still have a presence there but it also appears to be on the downswing. As time goes by, the radius of the mob's geographic influence becomes smaller.

What's your prediction?
10-15 years?
With no major busts...



After all, you gotta give'em credit...they're kinda cute

Detroit has more men than KC?

Of course, and they make a significant amount of cash.

KC is right at the bottom.

I think it will happen to the Patriarcas first, given that there always seems to be some kid in Philadelphia who pops up to fill any voids. The family is relatively youthful. The Patriarcas don't seem to have that so much.

Then again, maybe not, because even if the youthfulness factor is still around for Philadelphia wannabes, the attrition of talent will still be there.

Bear in mind that "kid" and "youthful" in the American Cosa Nostra context means "under 50".

It's possible with the double whammy of Rosetti and DeLuca flipping, the Patriarcas might end up being in even worse shape than Detroit and Buffalo. It might be a total wipeout. But there might be associates and lesser known soldiers that can fill the void. We'll see. <grabs popcorn>

By the way, who wants to be that there will be a domino effect of people flipping after Rosetti and DeLuca?

there is nothing left of any viable family/activity in buffalo

i have been going to school in the area for the past 5 years or so and there are barely if any italians around and the todaros are for the most part old as dirt, i know cause ive been to their pizzeria and seen them

buffalo is a HIGHLY depressed area with all kinds of flight (economic, business, brain drain, etc)

I've done the same thing but I only met Todaro Jr. His pizza business is so successful that he'd have to be crazy to bother with mob stuff anymore.



He was one of the very few whites I saw in the town, come to think of it. The neighborhood around La Nova seemed kinda run down when I was there.

yeah a while back their pizzeria was ranked the most successful/profitable independent pizzeria in the USA, ive heard stories of guys who are millionaires paying tons of money to have their pizza shipped out/flown to them

What do you mean no busts?



Yes, Detroit has a couple dozen and Kansas City has maybe half that.



By the time New England and Philadelphia become like Detroit and Buffalo are now, Detroit and Buffalo will be like Kansas City.

So you don't think the two of them flipping has the potential to reduce the Patriarcas to the handful-of-soldiers-left-glorified-crew status?

Really?
They would do that much damage?
I'm with you on Providence, but even Boston?

Man, who are these guys?!?


I mean with no MAJOR busts, few guys once in a while...you know, nothing historical.
How long do you give Philly & New England before they turn into Detroit?
And how long until Detroit turns into KC?

Oh, btw, I do consider Buffalo already a Kansas City.


Here's a question:

How can Detroit turn into KC if they keep being so low-key and not getting involved in nothing super serious besides gambling-shy-extortion and few legit biz?

I mean, the FBI managed to get rid of many of these families' members due to their involvment in racketeering, murders, bombings, violent power struggles, witness intimidation etc...

The Feds will not have enough stuff to put them away for 30 yrs like they used to (less long sentences, less rats).

Same thing with Philly.

New England had drugs involved (Rossetti) so it's different.

It's just sheer speculation on my part and I can't really comment on the situation authoritatively. Rosetti is a capo and acting consigliere, so he likely has a lot of dirt on a lot of people, and DeLuca could bring down everyone in Providence. The actual extent of they damage they inflict remains to be seen.

Generational attrition. There's not too many wannabe young Italians in the Detroit metro that could replenish the ranks. It WILL fade away eventually. It's only a matter of time.

A "handful-of-soldiers-left-glorified-crew" would be like Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Tampa, or LA. So, no, not quite. They could definitely do a lot of damage though, particularly if they cause others to flip.

Will Limone go down? Was he just way too close to these two guys to escape unscathed? It doesn't seem likely. In fact, with DeLuca on the stand, it seems a foregone conclusion.

Any thoughts on likely contenders for a defacto "up" now that this administration is basically done?

so apparently a poster over in real deal who is in the "know" said that its official deluca is a rat and is is wpp, apparently he was wired for sound for a while, the next wave of indictments will target the mass/boston faction

they also talk about some guy called joseph ruggiero who might emerge in a leadership position in the aftermath

Yeah I saw that. Funnily enough there's a few differing opinions on the guy who supposedly went to Italy with Baby Shanks in '09, Joe Ruggiero. Opinion's ranging from force to brokester.

But yeah, DeLuca seems all but officially official at this point. The Feds have got some "made guys" set to testify.

One thing Ive wondered about the Federico, Quintana, Tortara and DeLuca induction ceremony. Being that it was literally completely captured by the Feds, a pretty major coup against LCN in general, what was the status of this ceremony in later years? I seem to remember reading it was considered null and void in some circles, is that right? Did these guys ever have to get "remade", as it were?

In fact the whole things kinda familiar. Ill have to hack through some archives.

Joseph Ruggerio...any more info on this guy?

Thanks for the post Dapper

I think you might be thinking of the George Fresolone induction ceremony; that was nullified. I haven't heard anything about the NE recorded ceremony being nullified.

Check Shawn D. Vetere account on FB.

Thanks Ivan. Maybe I did get the idea mixed up.

Ruggiero has a varying rep according to some micro/local opinions, but in the macro he's linked to Baby Shanks and WPRI identifies him as a memebr of NELCN. This is taken from the page;

“[G]overnment records confirm that he traveled to Italy for a week in July 2009 with [New England La Cosa Nostra] member Joseph Ruggiero, flying on [airline] Alitalia on July 17 and returning on July 24,” Lawson wrote. “According to an FBI confidential source, the purpose for this trip was for Manocchio to purchase property in Italy.”

http://www.wpri.com/dpp/target_12/inside_mafia/manocchio-bail-revised

A great chart made by a poster on Real Deal called Arm which has turned up here at different stages identifies him as an active soldier, aged 62 (at the time the chart was compiled, at least) It doesn't identify his crew affiliations, but considering his links to Manocchio, it would seem he was originally linked to the Providence factions and was later made under them.

While some sources claim him as being pretty well off financially, as mentioned, some guys seem to disregard any real influence.

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regiona...&position=4

Darin Bufalino Chinese food fund raiser for legal defense.....oy vey

That the Same Vetere that was hooked up with Merlino?

Yup!
Vetere and Luisi are\were the Boston guys for Philly.
Vetere was released in 2006.
Any news if he's still active? He should, since that he's a reputed made guy.

Luisi is ejoiyng sunshine in North Eastern Idaho.
Here's a 2001 Citypaper article about him relocating to Philly.

Luisi was the guy that basically paid his way into hooking uo with Philly once he knew there was no chance he'd get made in Boston.

So what was the deal with Vinny 217? Who was he?

Vinny was a person who was posting in an attempt to collect information for The Mass State Police. Alot of people posted here in response to him and the Staties got alot of information.
His real name is Hal Mayo and he is from Everett. He was once into drug trafficking and that started a relationship with the Mass State Police Special Investigation Unit. It was quite an elaborate ruse that was thought up by Hal in an attempt to keep in good graces with his handlers. You might call Mark Rossetti a top echelon informant for the FBI. Hal Mayo is a top Echelon Informant for the Mass State Police and he is very elusive when it comes to arresting him on anything, thats why the Staties thought it if they can't beat him why not join him. They even went so far as to call his pre-trial probation officer to advocate keeping him on the street when he tested positive for cocaine. That's alot of pull, very valuable.
Lieutenant Johnson of the Mass State Police Special Services Unit has given a standing order to protect Hal at all costs.It is kind of a trade off with the FBI and Rossetti.If you go to Fox 25 undercover and watch the Trooper (the one who looks like he eats nails) escorting Rossetti into the State Police Barracks you can see him whisper in his ear don't worry Mark we'll just trade you for Hal, you'll both get sweetheart deals.

Good job Vinny I mean Hal

Your writing style is just like VinnyGorgeous217's. Just sayin....

I find it very very very hard to believe that they would plant someone on this board, exactly what information are they going to get from this or any board. Sorry but this sounds like a load of crap to me.

FWIW, I got the impression he wasn't claiming the guy was 'planted' as such, just some random douchebag.

Still, I agree. Sounds suspiciously like bullshit to claim that mob investigators would be gathering useful information from the speculative observations and rehashed info made by anonymous posters on an internet message board on the subject. If anything, all they got was info they should have already known, nothing that should possibly be considered actual intelligence gathering. If it's true, the State Police of MA are in a pretty sad fucking state.

Whoever Vinny was, he didn't have the balls to post any follow up's. Unless this Hal character is Vinny. Not the same thing as 'following up' though.

I'm with Mela on this one. Just sayin.....

I haven't seen the Barber post anything on here in a long time either. Just a conspiracy theory, but they(Barber and Vinny) both had some ties to the local OC (or at least knew some people). After the Howie Carr article raised some hell locally, is it possible that they were encouraged to stay off these boards?

Wow, and I thought I was a conspiracy theorist! Some vivid imaginations on here.

I have been around just reading and observing. I have put up a few post in the sopranos forum.

I have stopped posting because I realized 2 simple thing.First Whatever rumors we may here on this forum , another forum or wherever dosent mean they are true. They are gossip / speculation. I ll let the media do the reporting on what's what and I will just observe.

And second these are real people and I don't feel its our place to discuss them like they are TV characters.

I still enjoy reading the boards but my posting days are pretty much over

agreed!

Even as the Boston FBI was claiming that they changed their procedures, they still allowed their top echelon informants to run amok.
Take for instance Richard Floramo who led a charmed life after being inducted into the Mafia. He attempted to put a contract on someone's life and after it was reported to the FBI nothing happened. The person he tried to hire and refused to carry out the murder is now being tried for trying to kill Richie Floramo. I would of went on the run to Idaho too with the way the Boston FBI operates.

All this talk of Richie being a rat wouldn't be going on if he were still alive.

The individual that was and is posting under names such as Hal, Come Clean, Everett Mob, and even Pat Russolillo is a goof named Steven Fitzgerald. He goes by the name Fat Harvey. Harvey grew up in Everett and was basically a degenerate gambler. He goes from bulletin board to bulletin board with his nonsense and untruth. He did a short bit in Billerica where he got slapped around by a wannabe named Lelo. After he got out he was blackballed by everybody so he decided to be an informant. Fat Harvey was physically thrown out of the Everett Police Station when he brought his computed generated "paperwork" that was clearly devised by him. Next he went to the State Police where they realized he knew nobody and nothing. That is where his bitterness towards Staties comes from. His own family disowned him due to his clinical mental state of mind. He uses dozens of aliases on several different boards looking for attention and bad mouthing respected (rightfully so) people. In one word he was, is, and always will be a loser. You can expect replies under different names in response to this but you can take this reply to the bank. If you read his posts carefully they make no sense. He has pieces of different stories he's heard and tries to put them together. So Harvey, or whatever name you want to call yourself, time is a wasting. Tick Tick Tick.

harV any proof? this also seems like a bunch of crap

If Richie Floramo were still alive he would be calling the FBI and begging them to stop people from telling the truth about him.

i just want to say, i know this guy...and, i used to call him uncle bow...my dad, charles guarino was his best friend and we lived in malden, ma...and he was from medford. no wonder why my dad was in jail so much...what a piece of crap...now its confirmed that my dad was apart of the mob which excites me but saddens me bc of the legacy it leaves.

What ever happened to a man producing "paperwork" to verify an informants' status, or does being at least half Irish with ethical moral values of a career criminal require paperwork before labelling anyone as a "rat" ?

hey. you people seem pretty much on the money with these crews.They are in disarray and hear that their are people placed in the area from new york acting as overseers but acting very quietly. One guy is actually in Hampton,n.h. and is a grandson of a former Genovese member and the grandson grew up in eastie/winthrop and is purportedly a very nice guy but a vicious button guy who is used in special clean-up type jobs. Has anyone heard about this guy?

Bullshit Vinny wanted to wack Ritchie my ass Ritchie was one of Jr Russo my idol young Turk that's why he got made so Vinny wouldn't wack none of salemme and ray Jr loyalists that's why and Ritchie father ran with old Samuel granite that was sonny rizzo and the elder pryce capo who Is a salemme and ray Jr loyalist to correct the info

I'm right here and that's bullshit

this whole thread has become nothing but shit and should be locked.

you might be talking about dominic isabella a bonnano soldier moved to boston in the 80's to help things out

The beginning of this thread is interesting. I followed this ages ago. I sent people here to see what they thought. vg217 and chico99 appeared to be playing a game. The 'from Eastie' thing stuck out. Most everyone I know from East Boston would not have printed the stuff people printed here, but then again I never associated with rats or wannabeeeeeeeees.

Still, interesting thread.

btw, ask any old timer from Somerville about Howie Carr and the Pool Hall on Winter Hill. Now that is funny 'news'

I just registered and just want to say hello to everyone.I was reading some of the post made on this board and some of the information is wrong first of all the Saint was on a wire you can hear all the tapes on line. I read about his case and how they arrested his whole family that is pretty sad. All the guys that were arrested in providence R.I and in boston well now the truth has come out that it was Bobby Deluca

Hi Jerry welcome aboard!

Hey Nicky Scarfo Thank's

rico ponzo finally got caught haha after all these years working as a rancher in idaho hilarious... i can tell you this first hand that ponzo used to sell alot of guns back in the 80's and 90's, and supplied some to some low level salemme followers like lonnie hillson(ponzo worked withh various crews despite what clowns may say) etc.. ponzo operated in everett/revere and east boston for the most part.

Floramos in chelsea is a dump.

sonny and pryce are old time revere lcn guys(back in the revere beach days), there ancient these days but still run there betting office out of a deli shop in west revere.

iam familar with alot of the everett guys never heard of mayo or fitzgerald must not carry to much wieght, your saying duilio lelo fabbo smacked him aorund in the house, i can see that... lelo is definetley a wannabe, hes a juicehead too, shakesdown herion, and coke dealers in medford,malden and stoneham...

ah the Revere Beach days and a glorious roast beef sandwich from Kelly's, how I miss those days.....almost as dear to me as the nights I spent cruising Nantasket Beach in my 67 GTO back in high school....

Ponzo got caught a couple years ago right?

Kelly's roast beef! Most legit thing on this thread

@Southend. Have you ever eaten at Sully's in Southie on Castle Island? It's definitely the best place around here for burgers and dogs and great milkshakes. It's really a great place to go eat, being right near the water and the walking paths all around the Castle.

can't say I have. looks like i'll have to take your word for it too since I don't think ill be around Castle Island anytime soon lol

Kelly's is fucking overpriced garbage

Oh yeah there gonna find out where you live!....I grew up in this shit my family was involved with the Angiulos...my 2nd cousin Victor was gunned down on Shirley ave back in the late 80's in front of his family...
Victor was a good shit (for a mob enforcer) I still remember his face I was only a little kid back then...his poor mother she missed him everyday til she passed away..god rest their souls...I miss them now!

southend, how about the italian ice at albanos, or my personal fv the RED rose, theese are some of my favorite things!

Polcari's on Salem Street. Best lemon slush out of an 1930s barrel.

He is locked up pending trail.

The long standing argument about Santarpios v. Regina's for best pie is legit...I love em both...however, I must say that Bianca's at Revere Beach has got to be up there in the argument. Great pie!

Circle Pizza was great when Billy owned it. We used to use the boxes as dishes. Grabbed some Peroni Beer at Hanover Liquor and eat the pizza on the stoops. Fucking great days.

It's Bianchi's and nobody and I do mean nobody from here ever referred to a pizza as a pie .A pie is that crap they make in Chicago. Stewed tomatoes on tasteless bread dough.

Typo