Richard "The Iceman" Kuklinski...

...Mafia contract assassin, maniac serial killer.



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Video Interview Part I

Video Interview Part II

I've red the Phillip Carlo book on Kuklinski and I enjoyed it as I did his other books on Gaspipe (Casso) and Tommy Karate Petoria, see my response on Mafia books forum.

I am however slightly sceptical about many of his confessions, in Phillip Carlo's later book about Tommy Petoria it mentions a murder which Kulinski supposedly was involved with, the murders of Carmine Galante and Leonardo Coppolla, others involved have denied any involvement by Kuklinski...

All that said he most certainly was as you say a Mafia contract assassin and most definately a maniac serial killer.

Kuklinski was dangerous and he HAS killed but not to the extent that he claimed!

He DID NOT murder Galante, Castellano or DeMeo.
He claimed to have worked for DeMeo but I dunno wether to believe that.
Its been suggested that he simply visited the Gemini to buy a gun or two then years later when the truth about the DeMeo crew came out and Kuklinski was rotting jail with no hope of parole, he decided to say "I was with those guys" to get some attention!

I dont know what to believe about this guy!
Are they still making the planned movie about him?

I really don't think Kuklinski came to the Gemini lounge only to buy a few guns. He could have bought guns everywhere.

But I also believe he exaggerated his story. And why shouldn't he? Does he have anything better to do?

But I think it's likely he was associated with DeMeo, but definitely not part of his crew or anything.

Most of Phillip Carlo's books seem to be a bunch of bullshit. I don't trust an of the shit he writes.

I have my worries to, i wanted to buy and read Gaspipe, but dont know if i should.

HI Mukremin

The gaspipe book is a good read but its not wonderfully accurate.
Only buy though if you can get a cheap copy from somewhere

It's definitely a decent read and makes for a good story but i just find it to be a lot of fiction in my opinion.

Thanks guys, i am surfing ebay at the moment. I have found a couple of copies, not sure when to buy. Since the shipping costs are more then the actual cost of the book.

I hear that they are, with Mickey Rourke playing Kuklinski.

Phillip Carlo is a good author but as you said HIGHLY inacurate. In Gaspeipe he says:

Angelo "Quack Quack" Ruggerio, Who got his name from his uncanty ability to duck indictments.....uuummmm........Hello Tony Ducks Corrallo maybe?

He also refers to Big Joey Massino as "little Joey Meeseno"

He stated that Sonny Red succeeded Rusty as the boss of the Bonnanos.....Sony red was NEVER a boss and the whole reason he got killed was because Sonny black and Joey Massino wanted Rust to be the boss!

Honestly, there are far more than I can remember besides those. When you read the book (if you are educated about LCN)you almost want to stop reading its so highly inaccurate.

With that said, it is a good read.

As for the "iceman" wow where to begin.

Here is the problem, Carlo does NO cross checking with Gaspipe or Klukinski's stories, it goes straight from their mouth to paper and THAT is a terrible way to write a book that sells in the TRUE, let me repeat that, TRUE crime section.

Maybe you should download it from some ,ahem,alternative source .read it,and buy it after if you feel it's worthwhile.

As for Kuklinski,he has killed some people,but most of his exploits are fairy tales.

Kuklinski was so fake at times it was ridiculous!

Like the time he claimed to have accompanied Roy DeMeo to a sit down that was referee'ed by Dellacroce.
He claimed DeMeo was in dispute with Gotti over loot from JFK airport.
He (iceman) claimed he had gone to the meeting armed to the teeth as DeMeo's bodyguard.

2 problems with that.......

1. you get frisked for weapons
2. Sit downs are strictly made guys only

These are VERY good points. The whole book in in itself is a joke because the title is "The Iceman, Confessions of a Mafia Contract Killer". He was a contract killer but he was not a mafia contract killer. Kuklinski was a polish man who was OBSESSED with the mafia and the power that they had and alot of this shit is totally false. Growing up bullied in New Jersey he becamse infactuated with the power wiseguys had.

Also in Carlos Iceman, Phillip Carlo states that Roy Demao loaned money to Chris Rosenberg knowing he couldnt pay him back which would ensure Chris would be forever in debt to him, get a percentage of his proceeds and it eventually cost chris his life

NOT TRUE

Chris was ordered killed by Castellano and Nino Gagi because he ripped off and killed drug dealers and they were vowing revenge. The death was one of few that actually REALLY bothered Demeo because he thought of Chris as his son

The Iceman book also mistakenly refers to Chris Rosenberg as "Chris Goldberg"

It seems to me that Kuklinski claims to have killed everyone from the first T-Rex to JFK. I'm sure he has done some terrible things but much of his "resume" is questionable at best. Too bad he's gone, maybe we could have sent him after Osama Bin Laden.

This thread made me go back and read Iceman. All I can say is WOW. "the big guy" is 100 percent FULL OF SHIT. Any historical mob hit he has taken credit for:

Jimmy Hoffa
Carmine Galante
Paul Castellano
Roy Demao

He also said he went to all ends of the earth to fufill murder contracts. Europe, South America, Canada and California.

As someone mentioned before, he claims he went to a "sit down" armed to the teeth with guns and knives. In the book its almost as though Phillip Carlo realized "the big guy" was full of shit as he wrote.

First he mentions that there had a to a "sit down" to resolve the dispute between the Gotti Brothers and Roy Demao. Then as he types he says, this was not in fact a "sit Down" but rather an informal gathering.

WHAT?!?!?!?!?!?!

There are MANY problems with this. The first of which is John Gotti is ON RECORD as saying he never so much as did a single dollars worth of business with Roy because he was a lunatic. Second, JOHN GOTTI WAS IN JAIL on the date Phillip Carlo wrote this happened! thirdly, he called it an informal gathering, yet he says Neil Dellacroce was there to decide who got what.......THAT IS A SIT DOWN.

As someone mentioned above, only made guys can be at sit downs and there are not weapons allowed! Why do you think Nino Gagi had his nephew Dominick sit outside with a weapon when they made Big Paul Boss?

1. HE WAS NOT MADE AND COULD NOT GO INSIDE. He even said this himself.

2. Even if he could go inside, he couldnt bring a weapon.

honestly, I enjoyed all three books Carlo has written on the mob. The Butcher, Gaspipe and the Ice Man. But I wont read anymore. We all read these so we can find out what the life was really like, factual stuff. I now walk away questioning everything ive learned about the Mafias history because of him.

If I wanted a good fiction read I would go buy Harry Potter for christs sakes

LOL, good one. The lawyer of Michael Paradiso said something similar to a judge a few years ago. Paradiso was caught on tape talking about beating and kill loads of different people. His lawyer said it just an old man talking crap, because if it was true his client would be the all person still alive in the five boroughs.

I remember this episode, Paradio is the only guy to have allegedly smacked Gotti Sr and lived! Mikey is/was a dangerous wiseguy thats for sure.

Yeah, it was from a Jerry Capeci article when he was with the NY Sun, it can still be found online. There were a few funny things Paradiso said when he was being recorded, the funniest one was when he said he had better Christmases locked in prison with a bunch of (bleep'ers) then he did spending Christmas with his daughter and son inlaw. I think Paradiso gets out of prison in a few months actually

Yeah, it was from a Jerry Capeci article when he was with the NY Sun, it can still be found online. There were a few funny things Paradiso said when he was being recorded, the funniest one was when he said he had better Christmases locked in prison with a bunch of (bleep'ers) then he did spending Christmas with his daughter and son inlaw. I think Paradiso gets out of prison in a few months actually [/quote]

Yeah I remember that,

Capo (Brooklyn and Queens) - Michael "Mickey Boy" Paradiso (IP/5/15/2011)

he gets out soon

this sums up the Iceman.

We all know Capeci is the best author, writer on the mafia around. Does a TON of research and backgroud before he writes. Cross references, ETC.

Not ONCE was Kuklinski mentioned in Murder Machine

Not ONCE was Kuklinski mentioned in Murder Machine

I've said before that I have doubts about wether Kuklinski even worked for DeMeo as an assassin.
He maybe just bought some guns or traded a little porn with him?

Im saying I dont just have doubts, I am fully convinced they never even met!

When they arrested Kuklinski he had very little cash. He claims in his book he was making 20 plus k a week off porn.

I believe the whole Porn thing was a mere attempt for Kuklinski to tie himself to Demeo even further.

I think maybe your right jvanley.

Dominick Montiglio never mentioned Kuklinski and surely he would have heard about him through Nino if he (Kuklinski) really had worked for DeMeo.
Freddie DiNome or Vito Arena never mentioned him either

Dominick was paid $250.00 a week by his uncle Nino. His job was to keep a VERY close eye on the Demeo crew and report back to Nino exactly what was going on.

you are correct, never once was Kuklinski mentioned and he would have been.

Dominick was paid $250.00 a week by his uncle Nino

According to Albert DeMeo, one Christmas in the mid 70's - Nino Gaggi gave him and his 2 sisters $5000 each!!!!!

Nino wasnt fair with his money was he?
LOL

Probably one of the reasons why he flipped.

So, we have an author who can't get his facts straight, and a lunatic killer talking some smack and laying down some disinformation. I'm sure that anyone who has gone on record has lied, exaggerated, or put the reader on the wrong road to protect secrets.

I'm sure that anyone who has gone on record has lied, exaggerated, or put the reader on the wrong road to protect secrets.

You are right there but Kuklinski is crimes answer to Pinnochio.
Has it even been established or suspected by law enforcement that he knew Robert Pronge?

Law enforcement got what they wanted, put him away. Why would they waste the resources digging any deeper and trying to fill out a whole life profile for this guy?

The fact that he wasn't a made guy, wasn't an Italian, means that he was a "throwaway." And for that reason, may have actually seen or been part of some of the most shady of the shady dealings. It also means that he was probably involved in a lot of other things that never get mentioned or talked about. He puts things in "mafia" perspective, because that's what the media eats up, but the mafia are not the only people to utilize an accomplished free-agent assassin.

I think that a lot of what Kuklinski said was true, but he just sort of shuffled all the pieces around in a way to make it a more saleable product. Easier for the layman to understand. Sutff that could fit into a single book or a few TV interviews.

BS, infact, alot of what Kuklinski is UNTRUE. I love it in the first set of "ICEMAN" confessions when asked if he used a chainsaw for dismemberment he said "yes, it was quite messy" then in the second set when asked the same question he says "no, it was to messy". LOLOLOLOL

If you watch both sets, you can catch him in a BAZILLION lies. Fact is, this guy is not even CLOSE to the killer he claims, he simply associated himself with Roy Demeo because Roy had over 200 hits under his belt and in very hollywood grizzley fashion, something this dipshit wanted to do but couldnt or wouldnt. So what does he do? Leach onto the meanest nastiest SOB alive and THEN take credit for killing him so people will think he was the meanest nastiest SOB alive.

Joke, he is a f-ing JOKE

It's funny that you know for sure something is a "fact", instead of just you're oppinion.

What's even more funny is that you claim Kuklinski is a bullshitter (and he probably is) but you DO believe that Roy DeMeo killed "200" people...

That's EXACTLY the same bullshit.

but you DO believe that Roy DeMeo killed "200" people...

I'm with Jvanley on this one.
The exact number of DeMeo crew victims will never be known but the FBI estimate it to be between 75-200.
200 is maybe a slight over reaction though.

THe thing that makes ME believe the rumours about DeMeo is that DeMeo never talked himself - everything that is known about him comes from third parties (Dom Montiglio, Vito Arena and Freddie Dinome).
Crimes alledged to be the handiwork of Roy and his gang have been verified.
Most of Kuklinski's claims have not.
Some smell so bad that the bullshit is obvious.
Like when Kuklinski claimed he killed Jimmy Hoffa in Michigan and then drove all the way back to New Jersey with him in the trunk!!!!
Michigan has plenty of lakes and woodland - who in their right mind would drive half-way across the USA with a body in their trunk and risk a highway patrolman pulling them over?

I'll believe DeMeo rumours over Kuklinksi rumours anyday

Estimated, indeed.



It's never verified they killed 200 people. Speculation at most.

No it hasnt been verified that Roys crew killed 200 but knowing what we know about them it wouldnt be impossible.

Off the top of my head, DeMeo crew murders that have been pretty much verfied as true.......

Vinny Govonara (guy who broke Nino's nose)
George Byrum (Florida electrician)
Eppolito's (father and son)
Frank Amato (Big Pauls stupid son in law)
car thief Anthony Quinn and his teenage girlfriend
Chris Rosenborg
Danny Grillo
Mickey Spillane (Jimmy Coonans rival)
Frederick Todaro (porn film boss)
Joe Brocchini (made guy in another family who punched Roy in a row over porn)
Andrei Katz (guy who bought a stolen motor off Chris Rosenborg)
The Vacuum cleaner salesman who Roy thought was a Cuban hitman

I just pulled those quickly from my mind.
Most have been verified by a 3rd party or at least have a degree of credibility.

Roy DeMeo most definitely killed tens of people, maybe up to 75. I never said he didn't.

But the higher the number, the less likely it becomes.

On IMDB.COM they have michael shannon rumored to play Kuklinski in the movie and Benicio Del toro playing roy demeo which is weird cause i heard benicio was going to play jack falcone in the movie on agent garcia's life.

lol so its not only me after all

Really looking at Kuklinski, can anyone really say that he was convicted of a hit where a hitman of any kind would have been employed?

Some have pointed out that all of Kuklinski's verified kills were simply of business associates and/or underlings. There is no evidence he was ever employed to take out a ranking principal in the underworld by greater powers than himself...or is there?

A serial killer? Maybe. A hitman? Not impossible, but still dubitable. What professional killer would be busted for the 6 or 7 killings of small time criminals Kuklinski was convicted of?

Someone on this thread asked questions about the movie in the works for Kuklinski, that Mickey Rourke was supposed to play him, etc. Now we all know that the movie was finally made, with Michael Shannon in the starring role.

One word-

TROLL

The Iceman trolled everyone before the net came along. That is all

I hear the iceman admitted to planning the attack on the pentagon. He was also one of the shooters in Benghazi

The Iceman is STILL trolling the world via Carlo's book despite being 10ft underground. And we are still FEEDING the troll with these threads

My pipe dream was that David Chase would do a movie about the Iceman, with Gandolfini playing him.

Some of the notable hits I recall from his fantasy book

-He was dealing with a guy and whacked him to free a bunch of kidnapped kids whom he opened the door and set them & told them to run

-he took part in the John Favara killing with Gene

-Demeo sent him to whack a drug kingpin in Brazil. Claims despite getting lost he somehow found the place and finished them all off.

in the book "murder machine" it spells out many of the demeo gangs killing, and in the book they estimate 75-200, of course Rosenberg, testa, Borelli, and senter did many on their own, many not eve3n mob business, cheri golden for example, demeos killers were plain, and simple homicidal maniacs. so 200 could be accurate,

also, I read the book iceman, and saw the movie, kuklinski was copying porno flicks for demeo, so maybe demeo used him, but he had enough shooters of his own. so kuklinskis claims of being a mob hit man I take with a grain of salt,
also in the book he claims to have taken a mob hit, for 20,000 and gave the victims head to a mob guy, highly doubtful, like many of his claims.

Where is the evidence of the bolded? I've never seen any connection between Kuklinski and the Demeo crew confirmed, other than that he bought a gun off of Freddy or Richie Dinome i think it was once thus he was photographed outside the Gemini club. As far as i'm aware none of the informants connected to the Gemini crew, Richie Dinome, Vito Arena, Dominick Montiglio, etc, ever made mention of Kuklinski. Until i see some evidence of a connection i'm not willing to believe he had anything to do with the crew.

He was a interesting character none the less the fuckin creep

He claims in the book he set up a video camera in a cave and came back the next day or whatever and it had recorded rats eating the guy alive. He gave the tape to whatever mob boss it was.

How do you run lights to a cave? What year was that the 80's...battery life is only a couple hours on camcorders even in 2016.

It wasn't a camcorder silly. It was a regular camera that had some kind of motion detector. I remember reading that book and thinking "holy shit, here are all your unsolved big hits". Then I got to the Galante hit or Hoffa hit and felt so stupid for believing all of the previous stories and put tbe book down. They should've fiven him the chair.

strange about his murder, he was poisoned in prison, and some writers believe he was going to testify at a trial involving made guy, before he was murdered.

anyone know the facts about his death, and if or if not he was going to testify at a trial.

I know that you just said he was poisoned in jail meaning you haven't bothered to look into it yourself and that you are inclined to buy into ridiculous stories because they sound entertaining. Which to me means you are complete garbage when it comes to discussions here, it is pretty embarrassing that morons like you go unchecked here now, shows how far this site has sunk.

I agree, while watching his interview I thought here is a guy getting the most value he can.
Way over the top with his hit stories. Potrayed himself as an evil genius James Bond.

One thing is certain though, he was one sick puppy.

He was suppose to testify against Sammy Gravano..for a murder.Sammy got lucky.Peter Calabro was a hit by him That I personnaly know is the truth.

Since you know have you ever seen kuklinski in the Gimini lounge personally?

I believe now what people think about you on this site, you are an obnoxious uneducated, uncultured, complete self-absorbed
fool, and I don't believe you are an American, you have to be from some other place, god you stink !!!

When I was a kid, I had a band and once in a while got a gig in the Gemini Lounge..roughly 38 years ago. If Kuklinski was there, I wouldn't even know who he was..The owner/manager would come up to us and say.."can you play louder"...Calabro was a revenge murder by his 1st wife, who was found dead.Her Family had heavy mob ties. Gravano gave Kuklinski the contact.