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Posted By: RTintera

Buckwheats - 12/21/08 12:36 AM

This is a nice forum you have here. It would be a shame if anything were to happen to it...

Hi! It's my first post! smile

I love the Valachi Papers and have a question regarding his term "buckwheats", meaning (as I understand it) making a victim's death extra painful. Has anyone come across buckwheats in any other gangster lit, or read where the term could have come from?

I've got lots of gangster questions stored up in my head, and am glad to have found this forum.

Thanks!

Rich
Posted By: DE NIRO

Re: Buckwheats - 12/21/08 12:54 AM

Welcome..

Cant say ive ever came across that word other than this book..
Posted By: Lilo

Re: Buckwheats - 12/21/08 01:18 AM

The term is also referenced in the "Mafia Encyclopedia" by Carl Sifakis. Several examples are given but the only specific primary source listed is the Valachi Book. The Chicago Outfit evidently specialized in this sort of thing.

Another pop culture reference was in the movie Things to Do in Denver When You're Dead when the quadriplegic mob boss, played by Christopher Walken, promises buckwheats for Andy Garcia's entire crew. Here's an interesting take on the origin of the term.

http://moviesareonlyalife.wordpress.com/2008/10/12/give-it-a-name/
Posted By: Turnbull

Re: Buckwheats - 12/21/08 01:46 AM

Very interesting, Lilo. Thanks! smile
Posted By: Lompac

Re: Buckwheats - 12/21/08 08:38 PM

Wasn't this word mentioned in The Sopranos?

If I remember right, I believe it was highly racist.
Posted By: Lilo

Re: Buckwheats - 12/22/08 01:33 PM

It depends on the context and who's saying it.
So calling someone Buckwheat could certainly be derogatory but ordering buckwheats on someone wouldn't be..
Posted By: Yogi Barrabbas

Re: Buckwheats - 12/22/08 03:57 PM

I thought it was the name of a new breakfast cereal rolleyes
Posted By: Lompac

Re: Buckwheats - 12/22/08 04:22 PM

panic
Posted By: SC

Re: Buckwheats - 12/22/08 06:04 PM

Originally Posted By: Lompac
Tony said to Melfi: "I had a little conversation with buckwheat".

This means that Tony told Noah, Meadow's black boyfriend, to stay away from her.

So Lilo, ordering buckwheats on someone could mean that you would get your black friends to lay down a beating on someone.


If I was you I'd rather have someone THINK I might be a little nuts rather than go out and prove them right.

The term "buckwheats" as used in the original connotation of this thread's intent, has NOTHING to do with race.

Tony Soprano used it as a derogatory term (about Noah) because it was the name of a Little Rascals character who was black.
Posted By: Lompac

Re: Buckwheats - 12/22/08 08:24 PM

I was just pointing out my way of thinking.
Posted By: Lilo

Re: Buckwheats - 12/22/08 10:21 PM

Originally Posted By: SC
Originally Posted By: Lompac
Tony said to Melfi: "I had a little conversation with buckwheat".

This means that Tony told Noah, Meadow's black boyfriend, to stay away from her.

So Lilo, ordering buckwheats on someone could mean that you would get your black friends to lay down a beating on someone.


If I was you I'd rather have someone THINK I might be a little nuts rather than go out and prove them right.



Give it a name, SC.. smile
I'm not sure where you're coming from Lompac. But whatever.
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