Posted By: the bad guy tm
sammy the bull in court again! - 09/28/03 01:52 PM
if u have aol check it out he is testifing aganst a hit man who wanted to use a land mine to kill
Posted By: Beth E
Re: sammy the bull in court again! - 09/28/03 03:23 PM
Yeah, I saw that when I logged on this morning. Wonder how many security guys he'll have surrounding him to prevent him from dodging a bullet.
I thought he was in jail?? If so, is he testifying to save his skin or what?
TIS
Posted By: goombah
Re: sammy the bull in court again! - 09/30/03 04:35 PM
Originally posted by The Italian Stallionette:
I thought he was in jail?? If so, is he testifying to save his skin or what?
TIS I'm with you TIS - I thought Sammy was serving 15-20 years for his drug involvement stemming from the 2000 ecstasy arrest in Arizona. Talk about wasting a golden opportunity to turn your life around. Then again, maybe testifying is part of another deal he has struck to reduce his sentence significantly.
I wish Kay Adams could say her line from GF3 to Sammy: "I preferred you when you were just a common Mafia hood."
Posted By: Beth E
Re: sammy the bull in court again! - 09/30/03 06:32 PM
This is old news footage from 2001 I pulled up. Maybe he was charged in prison. It seems to me he'd still be in jail.
In the plea agreement, Gravano admitted to drug conspiracy, money laundering and eight other felonies. Most of his 45 co-defendants signed plea deals and received probation or light prison terms.
Gravano's state prison time will run concurrently with a federal sentence of 20 years and is to be served at an unnamed federal facility.
Napolitano said those terms mean Arizona wins twice: Gravano cannot be freed until he is 77 years old, and state taxpayers don't have to pay for his incarceration.
Posted By: Turnbull
Re: sammy the bull in court again! - 10/02/03 02:09 PM
The latest wrinkle in Da Bull case: Thomas "Huck" Carbonaro, one of his former subordinates now charged in the plot to kill him, has a tattoo on his back, saying: "Good Men Die, Rats Get Fat" with a big drawing of a rat. Prosecutor in the case wants to photograph the tattoo and use it as evidence; defense is objecting.
Ever get the idea that the total I.Q. of all of Da Bull's crew, including him, is less than the temperature of the room you're in now?
Posted By: Mike's Bodyguard
Re: sammy the bull in court again! - 10/02/03 03:53 PM
Turnbnull, you hit the nail on the head.
We tend to dramatize mafia types, and endow them with characteristics we see in mobsters in the movies.
Vito is smart and cunning, and seems to know what moves his enemies make before they make them.
Mike is cold and calculating, and also able to play three moves ahead of the game.
The old dons, because of the status they have achieved in the media, with programs like biography, and different web pages, seem to be Machiaveli like.
In reality, most of these bums are stupid beyond belief. Henry Hill? John Gotti? Sammy the Bull?
All three don't have the IQ of an ashtray.
Posted By: goombah
Re: sammy the bull in court again! - 10/02/03 04:05 PM
Originally posted by Mike's Bodyguard:
Turnbnull, you hit the nail on the head.
We tend to dramatize mafia types, and endow them with characteristics we see in mobsters in the movies.
Vito is smart and cunning, and seems to know what moves his enemies make before they make them.
Mike is cold and calculating, and also able to play three moves ahead of the game.
The old dons, because of the status they have achieved in the media, with programs like biography, and different web pages, seem to be Machiaveli like.
In reality, most of these bums are stupid beyond belief. Henry Hill? John Gotti? Sammy the Bull?
All three don't have the IQ of an ashtray.
Good point. If I recall from Sammy's biography, I don't think that he even made it to high school. I want to say he dropped out in 8th grade, but that may be inaccurate. Needless to say, he never wrote for the Harvard Review.
Posted By: eddietheplumber
Re: sammy the bull in court again! - 12/16/03 03:21 PM
By Associated Press
December 15, 2003, 5:12 AM EST
HACKENSACK, N.J. -- Former Mafia turncoat Salvatore "Sammy the Bull" Gravano has been charged in the 1980 murder of a New York City police detective.
Gravano, serving a 20-year sentence in Arizona for running an Ecstasy ring, pleaded innocent Thursday to the murder of Det. Peter Calabro in Saddle River.
Earlier this year, convicted murderer Richard "The Iceman" Kuklinski told authorities that he shot Calabro on orders from Gravano, 57. The highly decorated officer was suspected of having damaging information about an auto theft ring run by the Gambino crime family.
Kuklinski, 67, told investigators that he and Gravano drove around northwest Bergen on the night of March 14, 1980, waiting for the 36-year-old detective to return home from work in Queens.
Bergen County Prosecutor John Molinelli said Gravano supplied the murder weapon and three or four accomplices.
Gravano confessed to 19 murders nearly 10 years ago as part of a deal with federal prosecutors to implicate his longtime friend and mentor, mob boss John Gotti, and more than three dozen other mobsters.
He was freed from prison in 1995 and entered a witness protection program in Arizona. A few years later, he was convicted of running an Ecstasy network with his wife, children, and a group of white supremacists.
Two months ago, reputed hit man Thomas "Huck" Carbonaro was convicted in Brooklyn of trying to kill Gravano with a remote-control bomb. Authorities have accused Gotti's brother, Peter, of ordering the hit.
Copyright © 2003, The Associated Press