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THE OFFER - Paramount+ Series

Posted By: Irishman12

THE OFFER - Paramount+ Series - 02/02/22 12:45 AM

I'll be checking it out. This is a 10-part limited series that'll air beginning April 28.

"THE OFFER is based on Oscar-winning producer Albert S. Ruddy’s extraordinary, never-revealed experiences of making “The Godfather.” The series stars Miles Teller as Albert S. Ruddy, Matthew Goode as Robert Evans, Juno Temple as Bettye McCartt, Giovanni Ribisi as Joe Colombo, Dan Fogler as Francis Ford Coppola, Burn Gorman as Charles Bluhdorn and Colin Hanks as Barry Lapidus."

Posted By: CleanBandit

Re: THE OFFER - Paramount+ Series - 02/02/22 04:42 AM

Nice! I'll definitely find a way to check this out. The casting is pretty good - Miles Teller is a great actor!
Posted By: Irishman12

Re: THE OFFER - Paramount+ Series - 02/03/22 12:38 AM

I agree, solid cast. I'm most curious to see Dan Fogler as Francis Ford Coppola as he looks exactly like him from the trailer.
Posted By: Tru_Bizelli

Re: THE OFFER - Paramount+ Series - 02/21/22 09:10 AM

Sounds interesting. What happened to the video?
Posted By: Irishman12

Re: THE OFFER - Paramount+ Series - 02/22/22 01:26 AM

Originally Posted by Tru_Bizelli
Sounds interesting. What happened to the video?


Looks like whoever uploaded it, took it down for some reason.
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: THE OFFER - Paramount+ Series - 02/22/22 01:15 PM

That is some awful casting.
Posted By: Irishman12

Re: THE OFFER - Paramount+ Series - 03/23/22 11:57 PM

Full trailer

Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: THE OFFER - Paramount+ Series - 03/25/22 02:54 AM

Looks interesting. Looks like it's going into Colombo's venture into his civil rights organization, too, which I always thought would make a great movie or series in and of itself. Want to see how they handle this. Whether it was just a scheme all along or if he really started to buy into and take his family in that direction.
Posted By: DuesPaid

Re: THE OFFER - Paramount+ Series - 04/19/22 06:31 PM

Wife just told me about this, thanks i12
Posted By: Irishman12

Re: THE OFFER - Paramount+ Series - 04/19/22 11:39 PM

Originally Posted by DuesPaid
Wife just told me about this, thanks i12


No problem and enjoy!
Posted By: jace

Re: THE OFFER - Paramount+ Series - 04/20/22 05:05 PM

Giovanni Ribisi as Joe Columbo!!??? Oh God! I know that the civil rights league got involved after the movie was under way, but if the series is saying that the mafia would not them make the movie that is BS. There were several coming out every year, and I think that The Brotherhood starring Kirk Douglas was made just before the Godfather.
Posted By: mustachepete

Re: THE OFFER - Paramount+ Series - 05/01/22 12:20 AM

Pluto TV has a Paramount+ channel, and this is on right now, 8 pm ET Saturday evening. Might repeat.
Posted By: U talkin' da me ??

Re: THE OFFER - Paramount+ Series - 05/07/22 05:49 PM

In the previews of the series, I am not very impressed with the acting. It seems rather shallow to me. I'll probably pass this up. I don't have P+ anyway.
Posted By: mustachepete

Re: THE OFFER - Paramount+ Series - 05/07/22 06:45 PM

It seems there's some chance the whole show is baloney:

https://datebook.sfchronicle.com/mo...of-the-godfather-dont-ask-its-writer/amp

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I went into the interview as a fan of “The Offer,” then realized that every moment I found exciting about it was based on the idea that it was factually true, close to being true, or some version of some truth I hadn’t heard about. It didn’t occur to me that it was all made up.
Posted By: U talkin' da me ??

Re: THE OFFER - Paramount+ Series - 05/08/22 01:40 AM

Originally Posted by mustachepete
It didn’t occur to me that it was all made up.


Like GF III cool
Posted By: merlino

Re: THE OFFER - Paramount+ Series - 05/09/22 12:54 PM

I have watched all of it and enjoyed and Miles Teller's acting is great, the guy playing the studio head is the best, really enjoying the episodes so far and can see how the mafia gets their hooks into you even a little bit it can go South real fast
Posted By: jace

Re: THE OFFER - Paramount+ Series - 05/09/22 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by mustachepete
It seems there's some chance the whole show is baloney:

https://datebook.sfchronicle.com/mo...of-the-godfather-dont-ask-its-writer/amp

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I went into the interview as a fan of “The Offer,” then realized that every moment I found exciting about it was based on the idea that it was factually true, close to being true, or some version of some truth I hadn’t heard about. It didn’t occur to me that it was all made up.



I figured i thad to be made up, Puzo and others involved always said there were few problems. The previews looked overdone and overly dramatic.
Posted By: CleanBandit

Re: THE OFFER - Paramount+ Series - 05/09/22 04:53 PM

I enjoy the show - I like the acting, especially Miles Teller who's a greatly underappreciated actor and of course the Hollywood tax makes it more dramatic than it actually was, but so what? It's a show after all.
Posted By: Signor Vitelli

Re: THE OFFER - Paramount+ Series - 05/09/22 06:32 PM

Originally Posted by CleanBandit
I enjoy the show - I like the acting, especially Miles Teller who's a greatly underappreciated actor and of course the Hollywood tax makes it more dramatic than it actually was, but so what? It's a show after all.


Yes, I'll agree that "it's a show."

However...

Over the years, I've read many of the books and articles dealing with how GF1 came to be, beginning with Ira Zuckerman's The Godfather Journal back in 1972. Next to that yellowing old paperback I have seven other books dealing with the film. My point is that even reading one or two of those books will give you a pretty accurate account of how everything came together, with a helluva lot of real-life drama. Incidents are described, names are named, etc.

I read the SF Chronicle article linked above. Considering the facts they had to work with, and the wealth of material that could have been mined, it baffles me as to why in the world so much so-called "artistic license" was taken with the facts in order to tell a more "dramatic" story???

Many people who have not read any books on GF1 - or seen any recorded interviews with the protagonists, living and deceased - will, more than likely, come away with the belief that The Offer is telling it totally like it was, and that's the problem, as I see it.

I keep thinking of the old saying, "Never let the facts get in the way of a good story." We may be seeing yet another example of that here.

I do not have Paramount+ because all these add-ons and streamers just cost too much, considering what we're paying for what we already receive. I had been bemoaning not being able to see The Offer, but after reading through this thread (and the linked article), I'm not moaning as loudly.

Still, if I could view the series without having to pay anything additional for it... rolleyes


Signor V.
Posted By: CleanBandit

Re: THE OFFER - Paramount+ Series - 05/09/22 07:04 PM

Hey Signor Vitelli, I agree but we have to face the facts that with movies and TV shows based on true story, those things are always going to happen. Imagine a 13 year old kid watching The Irishman and thinking that Frank Sheeran killed Joe Gallo, or that Buffalino was the mastermind behind Anastasia's murder.

But, they just may get interested enough to start researching, reading and learning about the mob as much as all of us on the forum do. Everyone has to start somewhere; personally I got interested in the mob by watching The Sopranos and I thought all mobsters were rich playboys who kill people like it's nothing in the 2000s; until I started reading and learning. But the original story has to be just dramatic enough and big enough that it gets people interested in the subject.

We're seeing a similar trend with Winning Time: The Rise Of The Lakers Dynasty which is also an amusing show, but some of the key people from the Lakeshow era (such as Jerry West and Magic Johnson) are openly against it. But it still had some of my friends who weren't originally interested in basketball researching and reading about the Lakeshow era from the 80s and they realize things weren't exactly how they got portrayed in the show, but just close enough that it's believable.

FYI - this is where I watch The Offer for free - https://watchseries.pub/watch-tv/watch-the-offer-full-online-79630.8284480 (if this is against the rules please let me know and I'll edit the message).

Some characters and situations aren't that realistic when you know as much as we do (Carlo Gambino and Tommy Lucchesse sitting together in a cafe waiting for Joe Colombo, while T.L. is counting money on the table) but it's still fun to watch regardless!
Posted By: Signor Vitelli

Re: THE OFFER - Paramount+ Series - 05/12/22 04:06 AM

Here's an article by Peter Bart, who was there for it all:

Peter Bart on "The Offer"


Signor V.
Posted By: mustachepete

Re: THE OFFER - Paramount+ Series - 05/12/22 04:39 PM

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who was there for it all:


I've seen the first four episodes. One thing I've noticed is that Coppola seems to come off pretty well, while Puzo comes off as a dope. This could, of course, be because Coppola is alive and can defend himself, and Puzo is not.
Posted By: jace

Re: THE OFFER - Paramount+ Series - 05/17/22 04:43 PM

Originally Posted by Signor Vitelli
Here's an article by Peter Bart, who was there for it all:

Peter Bart on "The Offer"


Signor V.



Nice story. Him and everyone else who was there at the time says the story is fake. I think every series exaggerates a bit, but the mob ones go way out of the way to create storylines that they swear are real. Boardwalk Empire is an example.
Posted By: jace

Re: THE OFFER - Paramount+ Series - 05/17/22 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by mustachepete
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who was there for it all:


I've seen the first four episodes. One thing I've noticed is that Coppola seems to come off pretty well, while Puzo comes off as a dope. This could, of course, be because Coppola is alive and can defend himself, and Puzo is not.



That has to be the reason. If Coppola had died and Puzo had lived it would be the other way. I wonder if Puzo's family will have anything to say.
Posted By: Jimmy_Two_Times

Re: THE OFFER - Paramount+ Series - 05/20/22 01:37 PM

When it comes to any visual medium, unless they say it’s a documentary (and even those can be slanted to one particular view) I assume it’s going to be embellished for entertainment reasons. I don’t expect any movie or TV show to be giving me the truth.
Posted By: mustachepete

Re: THE OFFER - Paramount+ Series - 05/25/22 07:12 PM

From Coppola:

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Coppola has no involvement with the project and notes, “That’s the point of view of, I guess, the producer but it doesn’t really reflect what really happened, in my opinion.”


https://variety.com/2022/film/award...anniversary-walk-of-fame-1235204672/amp/
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