WAR... What IS It Good For?

I am about to attempt to discuss some VERY HAIRY stuff here. Some will accuse me of racism or being unpatriotic, or even worse. Death threats will not surprise me for what i am about to try to say.

I love my country. I love all of my brothers and sisters of all races and religions... Even the ones that want to kill me.

But the awful truth is that the corporate (I hate to say it but it IS true-- JEWISH-controlled) media which controls our foreign policy, and spoon-feeds us slanted "news" and downright lies...

Has this entire (U.S.A.) nation under its' control.

DO NOT GET ME WRONG---

I KNOW NOT all the Jewish are bad--- Many are good, wonderful human beings.

But the Zionist pigs who CONTROL almost every single facet of what we Americans are told and led to believe as true, have left us all in the dark and ALL OF US-- no matter WHAT religion-- are left in the dark.

The truth exists that the corporate (I hate to say it but it IS true-- JEWISH-controlled) media spoon-feeds us... What THEY want us to know, from only THEIR perspective.

DO NOT GET ME WRONG---

I KNOW NOT all Jews are bad--- THAT is just crazy.

But the Zionist pigs who CONTROL every single facet of what we Americans are told and led to believe, have left us all-- --ALL OF US-- no matter WHAT religion--

FUCKED UP 5 ways from Sunday (or Saturday or Friday or whatever your particular Sabbath falls on)...

I love ALL of my Jewish AND Muslim AND Christian and Hindu AND Buddhist AND Ba'hai and Animist AND whatever brothers and sisters of WHATEVER faith... Even those of NO faith...

But the awful truth IS that the so-called "Zionist Jewish" elite really DO have all of us FLAT OUT FUCKED with their propaganda and LIES...
ESPECIALLY how they lie and say that 9-11 was all President Clinton's fault...

Well.. At least Clinton's administration TRIED to recognize the very REAL threat of radical Islamists... And tried to take 'em out with missiles... This while in the midst of the so-called "scandal" where the Republicans tried to impeach him and cut his dick off...

Whereas the Cheney-Bush regime-- who are currently in POWER despite their MULTITUDE of REAL crimes-- has done ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to eliminate the threat to our once-great and proud nation. Nothing except lead us all to an unjustified, illegal war for their profit and corporate-interests... A war that has succeeded only in making the U.S. almost universally HATED.

Don't believe me?

OK. Fair enough.

I invite you to disagree.

BUT FIRST do some research that does NOT involve Murdoch's Orwellian media (i.e. NY POST, FOX News, et al)...

Try to watch some satellite feeds from other non-aligned nations (if you can)... READ a REAL book (if you can)... For Christ's sake if not your own...

THEN, once you have explored all the options which do NOT parrot the arch-right-wing party-line of the sinister, morally-questionable gang of criminals (a spade is a spade) who currently-- ILLEGALLY-- infest the integrity of the once-proud U.S.WHITE HOUSE...

THEN go ahead...Try to make up your OWN mind-- Without having it MADE UP FOR YOU... IF YOU EVEN CAN.

It truly makes me sad to write all of this.

I wish I was just lying and making it all up.

But... If YOU are fearless enough to do--As I have done-- And scratch JUST A LITTLE below the surface--- YOU will find that EVERY WORD I AM SAYING-- And a WHOLE HELL OF A LOT MORE SINISTER, UGLY STUFF-- Is RIGHT THERE below the surface of the shiny, polished corporate veneer...

...It is just WAITING for someone-- might be Woodward, might be Amy Goodman, might be someone else with some REAL INTEGRITY... YOU, maybe?
Someone with some REAL BALLS-- to actually come right OUT and

TELL THE REAL TRUTH

...About this whole LIE of this so-called "WAR ON TERROR."
And what has happened since this once-great nation was hijacked by a gang of evil thugs back in 2000.


Don't even believe me.
I do not care.

JUST DO YOURSELF a favor-- One that actually MATTERS--

FIND OUT for yourself THE TRUTH...
FOR YOURSELF AND YOUR CHILDREN AND THEIR CHILDREN...

It is the ONLY fucking chance we-- as the human race-- have got.

It's ALL up to YOU.

Your 'theory' has a major flaw in it.


Not true. The past 4 elections themselves disprove your theory that the Jews 'control' this country and the media and that they claim that 9/11 was Clinton's fault.

If anythng the Jewish faction has basically supported the democrats and President Clinton throughout the years. A study of American Jewish voting habits over the past 50 years shows that some 55 to 60 percent of the Jewish electorate pick Democrats almost automatically, while only 10 percent pick Republicans.

In 1992 the Jewish voters of this country overwelmingly rejected President George Bush Senior and he only received 10% of the jewish vote. The majority threw their support to Bill Clinton.

In 1996, President Clinton took 78 percent of the Jewish vote, with Bob Dole only managed 16 percent of the jewish for the Republicans.

In the 2000 Presidential elections 79 percent of American Jews voted for Al Gore, while only 19 percent voted for President Bush.

And even after 9/11, 3 years later in the 2004 elections, President Bush received only 22% of the Jewish vote.


Don Cardi

Nothing.

I'm glad to see such well constructed, fact based arguments permeating our message board!


Oops...

Can't you just move to fucking Antarctica and live with the penguins or something? :rolleyes:

Watching CNN doesn't count as actual 'research' or 'scratching below the surface.'

:p

Clinton took terorism seriously?
yeah he really took the 1993 wtc bombing the american embasy bombing and the uss cole bombing very seriously. :rolleyes:

Bush has done absolutely nothing to fight terorism?


DS

Because someone supports a Jewish state it makes them a pig?


Don Cardi

No, they're Zionists who happen to be pigs. :p

I can buy that, but decide not to. Rico, how does putting "Jewish", "Zionist" or any other suchlike variation add weight to your argument? Couldn't you have said whatever you did without all that?

My guess is that you're sort of aware that your argument, however ineffective or badly-constructed it might be, does not need any reference at all that the Media is Jewish-controlled, and that's why the very first thing you open the thread with is some self-defence rhetoric about you not being racist and all...

...and by doing so, you're being racist.

Last time I checked, Jews and pork didn't go together...which makes me confused with all the Zionist pig talk... :rolleyes:

Judaism isn't a race.

Judiasm isn't a race. [/b][/quote]Actually, in the 1980's, the US Supreme Court ruled that Jews were actually a race; though I haven't searched or confirmed this. The actual casename escapes me, however...I remember hearing it in passing during a criminal justice course I took a quite a few years ago.

Judiasm isn't a race. [/b][/quote]Well, discard your finicky pedanticism, and you know what I mean.

That's telling him.

A few moments ago we had to discard the "finicky pedanticism" of some pretensious clod who questioned the self-respect and castigated the whole lot of those who participated in a gaming thread because the original poster misspelled the title of the thread.

Some people are unbelievable.

Is this the end of Rico...????


Apple

Klydon, how am I pretentious? Please, that's a genuine question. I would seriously love to know.

DVC and I challenge one another because we see the potential for learning. I defaced the "ryme" thread because it was insulting to the English language.

Judaism isn't a race. [/b][/quote]Anti-semitist. Now go home.

Actually, Anti-Semite. But in reality, Jews don't exist. Neither do Christians or Muslims.

Actually, you know what, they do.

Religions are just ideas, theories, and morals, backed up by allegorical fairy tales. The only way you could justify calling someone a Jew is if they strictly follow all the rules and guidelines of their religion. And when I say "strictly" I mean without any slight imperfection. Otherwise, they're just a human being. Same goes for Christians and Muslims. There are people who call themselves Christians but at the same time have pre-marital sex, swear, steal, lie, cheat, and rarely attend church. What makes you a "Christian" then?

I genuinely do not understand religion, or its purpose.

Not true. The past 4 elections themselves disprove your theory that the Jews 'control' this country and the media and that they claim that 9/11 was Clinton's fault.

If anythng the Jewish faction has basically supported the democrats and President Clinton throughout the years. A study of American Jewish voting habits over the past 50 years shows that some 55 to 60 percent of the Jewish electorate pick Democrats almost automatically, while only 10 percent pick Republicans.

In 1992 the Jewish voters of this country overwelmingly rejected President George Bush Senior and he only received 10% of the jewish vote. The majority threw their support to Bill Clinton.

In 1996, President Clinton took 78 percent of the Jewish vote, with Bob Dole only managed 16 percent of the jewish for the Republicans.

In the 2000 Presidential elections 79 percent of American Jews voted for Al Gore, while only 19 percent voted for President Bush.

And even after 9/11, 3 years later in the 2004 elections, President Bush received only 22% of the Jewish vote.


Don Cardi [/quote]Dude...

I NEVER said that "The Jews" control the U.S. electorate.

I DO believe that most people of Jewish persuasion are good, kind-hearted, devoutly religious and spiritually on the right and good path toward propriety and righteous living.

BUT-- and this IS a BIG BUTT--

It is an undeniable fact that people who happen to be of Jewish faith
--(at least they purport to be)--
Are in EXTREMELY disproportionate control of the so-called mass-media.

Everything from TV and films in Hollywood to the music industry to advertising agencies and the list goes on.


I am no Timothy McVeigh! I am not railing against the "evil Jewish conspiracy" or the so-called "Z.O.G."

All I am saying is... There DOES exist a LOT of prominent Jewish males in VERY highest echelons of the elite.

And THESE guys (We will call them "Zionists") seem to call ALL the shots...

And we as regular people of ALL different faiths end up having to catch the bloody, carnage-strewn fall-out from.

Watching CNN doesn't count as actual 'research' or 'scratching below the surface.'

:p [/quote]Forget CNN. I don't believe their hog-wash either.

Now forgive me for what I am about to say because it will get a bit harsh.

And Double-J, DO NOT forget that I DO RESPECT you VERY much.

OK? So here goes:

Maybe if YOU occupied your single functioning sports-dominated brain cell with thoughts and ideas that actually matter, which are relevant to these dangerously sinister subjects... Which mean something important--
And which clearly affect this entire world which is in desperate peril...

But... NAH.

Instead, you just go ahead right on believing whatever you are told by your corporate masters...

Most of all... Make sure you continue mindlessly sucking down major-league tribal-based corporate-sponsored SPORTS propaganda...

After all-- Gotta keep them massess mindless or else... THEY MIGHT START THINKIN'!!!

If not... Then MAYBE YOU might could form an actual, objective, non-FOX-News-based opinion about what is REALLY going on in the world!

THEN maybe we could engage in a spirited and lively constructive debate!!!

Aw... Whaddahell am I sayin' over here.

Nevermind. Just go ahead and inevitably, predictably tell me to shut up and die.

You MUST be kidding, bimbo?

I'm the Teflon Underboss!!!

look... Believe it or not... I love alla youse guys.

I ain't here to start any fights!

I hate violence!

I hate war!

But I just think we can discuss stuff that the corporate-news-media WILL NOT TOUCH.

Like... Why the HELL are we at WAR in the first place???

It is no myth that the US and British media is sponsored by Zionists. They actually own the significant portion of the media and as the result they reflect the news as they please. The system is also tamper proof, so if a third party reflects some news that is unpleasant to them, they fall into anti-semite, anti-Jewish and terrorist loving category instantly.

Although the Jewish community in the US has always favored Dems over Reps, both parties have made it clear that they will continue to help and protect the state of Israel, just as they do for their homeland. But from what I understood, this was most of the American's wish, and their way making an ally in the Middle East, and as I said long ago, the war in Iraq is being fought for the sake of Israel.

Not true. The past 4 elections themselves disprove your theory that the Jews 'control' this country and the media and that they claim that 9/11 was Clinton's fault.

If anythng the Jewish faction has basically supported the democrats and President Clinton throughout the years. A study of American Jewish voting habits over the past 50 years shows that some 55 to 60 percent of the Jewish electorate pick Democrats almost automatically, while only 10 percent pick Republicans.

In 1992 the Jewish voters of this country overwelmingly rejected President George Bush Senior and he only received 10% of the jewish vote. The majority threw their support to Bill Clinton.

In 1996, President Clinton took 78 percent of the Jewish vote, with Bob Dole only managed 16 percent of the jewish for the Republicans.

In the 2000 Presidential elections 79 percent of American Jews voted for Al Gore, while only 19 percent voted for President Bush.

And even after 9/11, 3 years later in the 2004 elections, President Bush received only 22% of the Jewish vote.


Don Cardi [/quote]ahhh don cardi, its nice to have a good consig like yourself who checks out the 'facts' and delivers stone cold statistics. we have had our differences in the past(b/c i am a hot head)but u truly are the consigs of consigs.

now....everyone plz read these 3 points....

1. the jewish-israel state that we know today was of course set in motion by the nazi state of adolf hitler. they exported all the wealthy jews from europe that wanted to go, and the rest....well you know the holocaust, etc

2. in roman times (100-300a.c) the jews became the banking cartel that they are now b/c they were innovators in this banking technology that is so common place now, and more importantly b/c they had 'gonnections' across europe and into the middle east and northern africa that the romans and their german barbarian inheritors simply did not have. in time they were outcast by the common man who did not share in their knowledge and that outcast still exists in the present time.

so.......the hatred of the INTERNATIONAL MONETARY FUND(who sets the interest rate) or the banking system in general leads to a distaste in capitalism and leads to a communist state of mind. im a communist myself and am willing to sell my car to help feed the poor, BUT I LEAVE THE JEWS OUT OF IT!!! we are all slaves to this INTERNATIONAL MONETARY FUND/GLOBALIST BANKING STUCTURE that helps us maintain our current state of living while leaving out so many of the unfortunate.

Not in so many words, but when you say that the Jewish people run the media, control foreign policy, and have the entire (USA) nation under it's control, then your saying that the Jewish people run the country, period.


Don Cardi

Watching CNN doesn't count as actual 'research' or 'scratching below the surface.'

:p [/quote]Forget CNN. I don't believe their hog-wash either.

Now forgive me for what I am about to say because it will get a bit harsh.

And Double-J, DO NOT forget that I DO RESPECT you VERY much.

OK? So here goes:

Maybe if YOU occupied your single functioning sports-dominated brain cell with thoughts and ideas that actually matter, which are relevant to these dangerously sinister subjects... Which mean something important--
And which clearly affect this entire world which is in desperate peril...

But... NAH.

Instead, you just go ahead right on believing whatever you are told by your corporate masters...

Most of all... Make sure you continue mindlessly sucking down major-league tribal-based corporate-sponsored SPORTS propaganda...

After all-- Gotta keep them massess mindless or else... THEY MIGHT START THINKIN'!!!

If not... Then MAYBE YOU might could form an actual, objective, non-FOX-News-based opinion about what is REALLY going on in the world!

THEN maybe we could engage in a spirited and lively constructive debate!!!

Aw... Whaddahell am I sayin' over here.

Nevermind. Just go ahead and inevitably, predictably tell me to shut up and die. [/b][/quote]What the hell?

You're right. I just blindly follow everything I'm told. You have shown me the light.

Now let's go kill us some Jews!


Wahte powar! Wahte powar!

---

If I believed everything you said, there would be no point for debate. We'd just be going around, throwing clubs and having bumsex while our cave wives watched.

Never mind the fact that some of those things ARE anti-semite, anti-Jewish, and terrorist loving... :rolleyes:

I thought it was for oil? Or to kill Muslim innocents? Or what?

Personally, I think that the Middle East is lucky to have America...Israel would've nuked half that place already if it wasn't for us holding her back.

Either way, I'm quite amused by this thread. Please continue.

I love to be told by people who don't know what they are talking about that I don't know what I'm talking about when its painstakingly clear they are the ones who don't know what they are talking about.

"The Jew is using the Black as muscle against the White,"
Double-J

Relax, Capo. My post was tongue in cheek.

I did think, however, that challenging the self-respect of all those, who participated in a whimsical thread over the misspelling of the title was a little severe and dramatic. Sure, there is some irony in the fact that the misspelling occurs in the context of a word game, but that is a venial sin in the long run.

After all, the English language endures daily assaults on the boards with impunity in threads that are more serious.

But, my use of the word pretentious (with the at the end ) was not serious.

This from the same person, who only last week, accused me of GENERALIZING when speaking of Muslims!

THEM? Isn't that generalizing? Or is that different than using the word THEY?



Didn't you do the same thing to me?
When I reflected some news that was unpleasant to somone like you, about the Muslim world, you basically threw me into the anti-muslim category!


Oh, I guess that the old "this war in Iraq is being fought for oil" story is worn out and ineffective now.

But being that you brought this up, let me give you a little more insight as to what a part of the strategy in fighting this war in Iraq is also about. It is being fought in the hopes of democratizing that region of the world so that democracy will spread into other countries in that region. Hopefully it will spread into places like Iran, and rid Iran of a government and an extremist leader who continually supports terrorism, threatens the people of Israel, and isolates the good people of Iran from the rest of the world.

Hopefully the results of this war in Iraq will give the Iraqi people the opportunity to finally live in a democracy, and at the same time be an example to the rest of that region, showing that religious democracy, cultural democracy, and democracy in general can and will work.


Don Cardi

In honor of this thread, I have erected a statue of Ariel Sharon on my front lawn, and am currently flying the Israeli flag on my flagpole.

Mazeltov!
Double-J

Anti-semitist. Now go home. [/QB][/QUOTE]
Judaism is a religion, not a race. Calling someone who believes in that religion a judaist is okay, because it is one aspect of them.
No?

The Jews are a people, a race. They belong to the Semite people, just like the Arabs.

Jezus.

The existence of the human race depends on that?

I, for one, would expect global warming, structural poverty, the huge lack of water that will become in the near future, or our messing up the planet to be big things.

But no, apparantly not.

Fairy tales? Human perceptions of things like life, the world, humans, specific people; yes. That ain't no fairy tales.

And these are your own ideas?
What party do you vote for, if I may ask?

Romans had no gonnections?

A majority of people in the West seem to like the capitalist system and do not really like communism. A majority of people doesn't even know what the IMF is, btw.

:D

A communist state, but not for the Jews?

Not only are you a racist, but you're also one of the lousiest commies I've ever seen.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Enzo Scifo:
The Jew are a people, a race. They belong to the Semite people, just like the Arabs.


The 'jews' also belong to the 'celts'. Not just like the 'arabs'.

(my 3 jewish friends would prolly not agree w/ me though)

DC your optimism is a really noble trait (I am not being sarcastic, and I wish I shared it) but I think you have to admit that this Iraq war plan has failed.

The initial argument for this war was that Saddam was a threat to our national security and that he had WMD's or at least the capactiy to produce them on very short notice. That is what Colin Powell told the U.N. The bringing democracy to Iraq part was more of an after thought, although some of the books coming out now say it was the real reason the neocons wanted the war, and that the Saddam
issue was a mere pretext.

The bottom line is that you don't spread democracy at gunpoint. Oddly enough there now appears to be a better chance for some kind of democracy to emerge in places like Lebanon and Palestine, and maybe eventually Iran than in Iraq. What we are going to have to understand is that if free elections in places like that are not going to produce the kind of results we like for some time.

As things stand right now, the only hope I see for Iraq is some kind of huge Marshall Plan type of deal where they get their infrastructure back and then they have the feeling that they have too much to lose by continuing their civil war.

I would concentrate in the Kurdish areas, and the more peaceful parts of the country first and then work into Baghdad and the more violent regions last. This will take more than a U.S. effort it will take tons of money from all over, and it will probably take a new president of the US to implement it because this one has lost his credibility.

The real bad actors in that region are the Saudis who have as brutal a regime as anyone, but who enjoy our good will because of their oil. We need to bring heat on them to cough up money to shore up our efforts there before we go broke trying to save these people from themselves.

As for the virulent anti-semitic diatribe that started this thread, all I can say is I am appalled. This kind of crap has been floating around forever. The "Jews control the media" line is pure bullshit. Fox, Time Warner, General Elecrtic, Viacom, Disney, Gannett, Cox Newspapers,The Tribune Company, and Knight Ridder are all publically held mega corporations which own most of the media in this country. The New York Times is owned by a Jewish family, but that is one newspaper, and not the entire media. The Wall Street Journal is owned by the Dow Jones Company -- hardly a zionist organization. Please stop these factually erroneous attacks on religious groups.

Jews 'belong' to the Celts? How?

Jews are a semitic people, like Arabs. That's the treuth.

this Iraq war plan has failed.


Colonel??? Does the media know you are spilling the beans w/ all this information?

Jews 'belong' to the Celts? How?

Jews are a semitic people, like Arabs. That's the treuth. [/b][/quote]treuth with an 'e' maybe.

they are semitic but the celts touched up right against that area too.

('standard' history volumes debate the issue pretty regularly)

Celts are a Indo-European people, some believe they originated around the Black Sea.

Jews are Semitic.

... Exactly why I attempted, in my initial THREAD TITLE remarks-- to try to pre-emptively disclaim and deny any and all even mere suggestions-- of myself being someone who is "out to get all the JEWS!!!"
Those people DO exist. Most of them are raging nut-jobs and sometimes they can be extremely dangerous.

But others like myself that merely raise questions such as:

"Exactly WHAT are WE THE PEOPLE being TOLD of WHAT is REALLY going on in the world, and WHO are those that CONTROL and DETERMINE what WE (all of us, everybody, you and me)are actually ALLOWED to be aware of."

... And, in addition, asking for possible inquiry and accountability...

Well, those individuals are immediately labelled as "Anti-Semitic".

If I am wrong, or if anyone even thinks I am wrong, then somebody PLEASE post a photo clipping from ANY legitimate news source, concerning this specific subject.

THEN we can argue some more... And eventually we can all see the truth on this.

Yes they are Semitic. But not so 'pure' semitic b/c they did brush against the celts; just the same as the assyrians, lebanese and north africans did.

edit:{and yes, most history books debate whether or not they were solely a semitic ppl or whether they are a nice mix of all the NOMADIC ppls who occupied the area,including the celts. they could have come from the land of snow and ice or maybe they originated in the desert, point is, they are one of those 'unique' races that is extremely hard to trace. there are plenty of jews w/sandy blond hair and blue eyes who trace their roots back to israel}

chicken or the egg thing-kinda sort of.

my thoughts relate to your's here.
i consider myself a proud member of what i'll call the chaos/conspiracy party, but no one ever calls me an anti semite.

The Saudis, while satisfied that Saddam is removed, would not overtly support a democratic Iraq. The Saudi royal family probably sees democracy as a direct threat to their present authority. They wouldn't want it to spread into their country, and as such they would not want to sink a fortune into democrat

Why? You're the one making grandiose, unfounded statements. You haven't proven one thing in this thread other than that you don't seem to have a firm grasp on reality.

Show me the proof.

-DJ

The Saudis, while satisfied that Saddam is removed, would not overtly support a democratic Iraq. The Saudi royal family probably sees democracy as a direct threat to their present authority. They wouldn't want it to spread into their country, and as such they would not want to sink a fortune into democrat [/b][/quote]this saudi 'thing' is pretty messed up.

i saw the mike moore movie like everyone else and yes the bushes shook a lot of saudi hands and saw a lot of saudi camel toe, but 'this is business not personal sonny' ....and if the hyman roth/micheal corleone relationship holds true the best shooting is yet to come.


ALL OF 911 TERRORISTS ARE SAUDI!!!!

(put the women and children to sleep you hawks you, its time to go huntin')


Send Neri to move this thread out. I think it is done for now.

Hello, Afs.

Hope this post finds you well. <3

Your post is logical, and actually what you mention - is clear to truth-seekers in all corners of the world. America will be bled dry for Israel if it does not change its course of action, and should Americans stand by while it happens, so will their blood along with that of their children - as it has already been, and continues to be. It's a little instructive to see that those criticizing the initiator of this thread have not attempted to debate him with facts, nor will.

There's just no simpler way of stating it: The nation has been in steady, steep decline, since WWII, and egalitarianism, and weakness are pushed down the youth's throat, in schools and every possible form of the media - the nation's IQ, productivity, and economy have all dropped in keeping, steedily whence I mentioned.

The culprits will be found, and be made to pay - probably soon - as they usually are. They have a long history of becoming increasingly greedier, and being discovered. One older than Christ, their tribesman.

America will be bled dry for Israel if it does not change its course of action, and should Americans stand by while it happens, so will their blood along with that of their children-as it has already been, and continues to be.

[/QB][/QUOTE]

DO U PLAN ON KILLING SOMEONE YOURSELF 'GUINEAPIG'?


i have been wrong in attacking all the red necks on this board. i had no idea this kind of stuff was popping up.

Hello, Afs.

Hope this post finds you well. <3

Your post is logical, and actually what you mention - is clear to truth-seekers in all corners of the world. America will be bled dry for Israel if it does not change its course of action, and should Americans stand by while it happens, so will their blood along with that of their children - as it has already been, and continues to be. It's a little instructive to see that those criticizing the initiator of this thread have not attempted to debate him with facts, nor will.

There's just no simpler way of stating it: The nation has been in steady, steep decline, since WWII, and egalitarianism, and weakness are pushed down the youth's throat, in schools and every possible form of the media - the nation's IQ, productivity, and economy have all dropped in keeping, steedily whence I mentioned.

The culprits will be found, and be made to pay - probably soon - as they usually are. They have a long history of becoming increasingly greedier, and being discovered. One older than Christ, their tribesman. [/b][/quote]Hello GP!

We are doomed to bleed for Palestine and Lebanon as well and I just know the feeling. If only people could break these chains and set themselves free of those who triumph on labeling and framing for their own benefit ..., alas, all issues now come down to the Arab-Israeli conflict, and that's the scale one would be measured with in the end.

My deepest sympathies,
Afs~

Hello Ice -

Hope this post finds you well.

Your concerns are logical and not without merit and are very clear to the real truth seekers in all corners of the world.

Unfortunately the Middle East may be bled dry for Terrorists if it does not change it's course of INaction, so will their blood along that of their children - as it's already been and continues to be.

There's just no simpler way of stating it: Much of the Middle East has been in a steady, steep decline since the attacks of September 11th, and fanatisim, extremism and jihadism has been pushed down the youth's throats by fanatical extremists, in anti-western speaches, and much
of Arabic media.

The extremist fanatical culprits have and will be found, and have and will be made to pay - as they usually are. They have a long history of becoming increasingly greedier for world domination, and being discovered. One older than Muhammed, their tribesman.

My deepest sympathies for all those good and GOD loving middle eastern people who don't deserve to pay for the actions of those who are allowed to continue to set up terrorist cells, recruit, occupy and in some cases even rule some of those middle eastern countries.


Don Cardi

I hope your lack of personality, and 'ingenuity' serve you well in real life.

I agree with you GuineaPig, Cardi's personality is definitly lacking and his lack of "ingenuity" is definitly not going to serve him well in real life. :rolleyes:

It's just too bad that Cardi couldn't be a good friend, a lot of fun to be around and maybe even hold down a steady job :rolleyes:

It's funny when you try to insult someone on the internet without knowing them in real life, because to be honest with you all you do is look foolish to those of us who do know him.

And MY OWN lack of personality and "ingenuity" have served me just fine in real life, so please don't waste any of your wishes on me :rolleyes:

Apparently, yours have. Which might explain why you could not come up with a better response.

Apple

Apparently, yours have. Which might explain why you could not come up with a better response.

Apple [/b][/quote]Fiesty. Cute.

Some of you seem to forget that there are better things in life than posting on a messageboard - even more dismal, some of you don't. I could personally care less how Cardi's tact or lack thereof serves him in real life. Take the post at face value. It was actually not intended as a personal attack on someone I know nothing about, will never meet, and who is completely irrelevant to my life. Such basic things don't hold my interest anymore.

For someone, who seems - at least outwardly - to possess more intellect than a barren cat lady, I would expect you to be able to distinguish between internet and real life persona.

G-Pig

If your sudden reappearance back here is to make disparaging remarks about our members you'd better disappear again. I'll hold the door for ya.

and should Americans stand by while it happens, so will their blood along with that of their children [/b][/quote]what color of 'blood'?

white? black? brown? yellow? red?

there are lots of colors in america. don't ya know?

Are black and white colours?

If I remember from high school physics, white is a color, but black is not...or is it vice-versa...

I believe that according to the spectrum, white is the combination of all color, and black is the total absence of color.