2006 GangsterBB Convention

TIS suggested that we start a new topic for the possibility of having a 2006 GangsterBB convention. nothing is in stone , and suggestions are highly encouraged.

We've been throwing around the idea of having it at a Chicago location in May of 2006. :


http://hollywoodcollectorshow.com/

Again, some feedback is needed by anyone that is serious about attending. If you are serious about attending and have any other locations in mind, post it.


Don Cardi

It certainly looks interesting. It could be fun, but then anything with you guys would be fun!!

Sounds like our enforcer is game.

Some of those "stars" hafta be 100 years old now, yet I'd still wanna have my picture taken with them (Noel Niell, the gal who played Lois Lane on the 1950's tv show "Superman", is one of them).

We could have a conventioon in a cave and we would have a good time.

So are we talking Chicago or are we open to other locations??? (sorry, again I don't have time to browse)


TIS

I think DC was talking about the May 6/7 one that's tentatively scheduled for Chicago area. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Everything is open to discussion.

Geez.... you guys are unbelievable.... we just got home from one and now nobody can wait to even PLAN another one?

(Is it any wonder why I love these people?)

Plan it for when school is out for the summer.

Sounded awesome! Chicago is about five hours away, May 6th is a day after my birthday.

Oops! I forgot about that? That could cramp my style.

Can we do this again in about five years, so I'd have a better chance of travel, finance, and drinking eligibility?

Or better yet, bring it to Houston and we'll catch an Astros game together! Maybe someday...

Hoep this works out for y'all, though! I'll keep up with it as if I were going.

Ok, I have a few extra minutes here, since I am home for lunch.

It is funny (and fun) that another gathering is being planned only days after the last one. Are we party people or what.

My random thoughts (and this is ONLY my thoughts)

1.I was planning on posting a potential meeting in CA here after this last get-together. My initial thought was working with Zia (who agreed to help) in having a West Coast thing. She knows L.A. well and I'm sure would be extremely helpful in getting things together. Also Vegas sounds wonderful as well.

2.Also, again my two cents, I loved Chicago, but for me, and as far away as I am, and since I'd be traveling that far anyway, if I had to choose between Chicago and NYC, I'd definitely pick NYC. I never know when/if I'd be able to make it out there, and of the two, I would go with NYC.

3. Also, for me anyway, should East/midwest be decided I would require more than just a weekend, thus requiring me to put in vacation time. With that distance, I'd take a few extra days.

4. Another suggestion we could discuss as well, is maybe getting somewhere in the middle of the states, so more people may attend. I just am not certain if we want touristy things and/or an event along with the get together,

All that being said, I am open to discussion and will try to make it wherever it ends up.

TIS

Where is "Little Chicago" that it's 5 hrs away from Chicago?

hah May 6th will be 6 days from my 21st birthday lol

I agree with you there!! Especially about the drinking eligibility

I think you should all come and enjoy the rain in Scotland!! :p

wherever it ends up being at can I suggest that we do things as a group as much as possible.

vegas

Yeah, you may just fit right in there. With all those magicians, you could do your famous " Disappearing act!"


Don Cardi

Nothing is set in stone here. I just posted an "Idea" to try and get the ball rolling.



But to be realistic, we need to agree on a place that the majority of us would find easy and convenient to get to.

I've tossed around the idea of Atlantic City also. The only thing that concerns me about having it in a casino atmosphere is that we may tend to "do our own thing" in a casino and that would defeat the purpose of us getting together. Then again, I may be wrong. We can just agree that we will hang together nd limit our gambling to a certain amount of time. I wouldn't have to gamble all day and personally would spend the time we allott together with everyone. but I don't know how others feel. the other Positive with AC is that we can go to a show together.

The Chicago thing was also an idea because it provided a venue for us in regards to that show.

I think that having some sort of activity or venue is a positve addition for us.

So please give your ideas!

Don Cardi

I don't know, I think that if we want to get together, it should be for us to get together. Having a show or venue to me is like those birthday parties my daughter's friends have where they all go to a movie. How is that a party? The purpose of a party is to get together with your friends, not sit in the dark staring at a screen and not being able to talk to one another. But that's just me. I want to hang out and talk to you guys. On the other hand, I was only with you all one night. If we were to do a whole weekend, maybe we need the distraction of something else going on so we don't get sick of one another.

I like the idea of AC. But I live a few hours away, so it's rather convenient. Hell, I'd go back to the Doubletree. Just being with you guys is good enough for me.

Well when we were in Chicago, some of us arrived on Thursday, and some on Friday. Of course we hung together and went to dinner together and at night hung out drinking and having fun in the hotel lounge, but on Saturday it was nice for some of us to see Chicago, go to a game, go to the pier, etc. And having the show was really cool too because it broke the day up a bit and made for an even better party in the evening for us. We did the same thing in the doubletree, some went ot the Corleone House and some went to the track. If there was some kind of a movie or gangster show in the Doubletree, it would have made it interesting.

The more I think about it, the more I like the AC idea. Heck, we can gamble in the day, have dinner, do a show and then PARTY PARTY PARTY all night.

But then again, I also like the Chicago idea.

I'm sooo confused!


Don Cardi

You fickle, fickle man!! Hell, you can all come over to my house. I'll make the lasagna, you bring the wine!!

Hell I'd drive to Timbuckto to hangout with you guys.

They have any delis there?

They have any delis there? [/b][/quote]


THAT'S IT!!!!! Your a genious SC! We have the next GangsterBB Weekend for 2006 at the Hilton Garden Inn right next to HAROLD'S!!!









Don Cardi

IF we are having it in May can we please have it after the 12th?

You said you didn't drink. :p

I don't "drink" but if I want to have 1 with a couple of friends I would like the option to lol

I still like the convention idea over a casino. Sure, I suppose at both people could do their own thing (gamble vs walk the booths), but at least it's something that can be shared -- you can walk the booths together, buy movie memorabilia stuff, meet interesting B actors, etc. Conventions usually are only during the day, and you can come and go as you please. Casinos (and the bars) are open 24/7 which might sound great at first glance, but I don't know how many times I've spent all night at a table not realizing that many hours have gone by. And it's very difficult to gamble together unless you're standing next to someone playing slots. It can also cost you a lot of money if your luck is bad.

The Chicago con was great, even tho the con itself wasn't. We (at least I) spent maybe 30 mins max in that room all weekend! What was great was going to dinner, and hanging out in the lounge, and hanging out "waiting in the lobby", and touring a little (ballgame downtown). It was one of the best weekends of my life. I don't know -- maybe I'm wrong -- but it's harder for me to see that in a casino. But hell, I'll go wherever the majority wants and I'll still have a good time!

Then again, the buffets and 24/7 atmosphere is enticing... as is the fact that it's only 40 mins from me.

You guys who hung in Vegas recently -- what do you think? Would that atmosphere be good for something like we did last weekend?

At least we have some time to think about it...

If you're with us for a weekend, then you'll end up being an alcoholic by Sunday!

Ain't that the truth. I swear, it took me until this morning before I truly felt back to normal. And at least I got more sleep than poor JG!!

I can understand your point Geoff, about casinos and everyone kind of going there own way. For those who like to gamble, I suppose it wouldn't be hard to wander off and park it somewhere. Then again, if we are with a group, perhaps it'll curb the gambling somewhat. I don't know about AC, but if it's like Vegas, there are plenty of lounges/shops, tours, shows, etc. not to mention most any time of the year except the dead of summer you can count on decent weather.

It would be nice to see something "gangster" related simply because we are all fans, but even if not, doesn't mean a good time won't be had.

And I suppose where ever the location, it'll be close/convenient for one, but not for another. It would be nice if any of the members here who have never gone but really want to go, let us know if you're serious and if you have any suggestions feel free to say so. No reason why we can't toss the ball around. We have plenty of time at this point.

TIS

They have any delis there? [/b][/quote]


THAT'S IT!!!!! Your a genious SC! We have the next GangsterBB Weekend for 2006 at the Hilton Garden Inn right next to HAROLD'S!!!










Don Cardi [/b][/quote]Yea great idea. Since bec works for the hilton chain she can get us a discount.

I think that whatever we end up doing, we should do it in a place that will have decent weather at that time of year, and in a hotel that offers other amenities, be it gambling or golf or at least couple of pools. That way, we'll have other distractions during the day.

I love the idea of NYC, just because I love NY. However, you're not going to find much to do IN a NY hotel, and it's going to be very expensive to do almost anything. Even having a few drinks in NY can cost a fortune.

Well, I assume it goes without saying that I refuse to go in the winter, anyplace where it snows!!! :p

Why, I'd just shrivel up and die!!! What a shock to the system.


TIS

And don't forget SB the no smoking law for those who smoke in NY.

True, Mig. Maybe we should stick with NJ!!

Little Chicago is what my town used to be known as. When something was pulled off (a hit, heist, etc.), Chicago mafiosi would often come to this town to cool down from law enforcement. From what I hear, it usually worked.

I guess we can rule out Michigan in January then?

Wa chu worry about baby. I key chu warm wit dose cute little blu drinks mang!

No, I agree, it has to be decent weather. Especially if we decide on Chicago! I hear that May is a good time to visit Chicgao.


Don Cardi

But wouldn't it be a welcome change? Isn't it boring to have sunshine and oranges all year long?

Yeah, you don't have any hurricanes to drive through to get there.

Tornadoes are another story.

I guess having it in Williamsburg where Bec works is out cuz of the hurricanes huh

Hurricanes, earthquakes, tornados, snow....lions & tigers & bears oh my!!!!

Ok, then let's just have it in Hawaii :p

Of course then we'd have volcanos to worry about. Isn't anyone safe anywhere anymore???


TIS

Well, if we really wanted to do it the right way, we'd have it in Sicily!

Damn!! Wouldn't that be the ultimate "BB convention?"


TIS

If wishing made it so!!

Well I'll make the same wish.

Alright, plane ticket to Palermo for everyone. Geoff's treat!

First class of course!!


TIS

I get to sit by TIS.

Oh wait, you must've meant Palermo in California, Maine, or North Dakota, right? :p

Here's a freaky story:

I met Sicilian Babe and Mr. Babe for the first time on Saturday about two hours before dinner. As we were getting to know each other the subject of visiting Sicily came up and Mr. Babe was describing how dangerous the approach to Palermo Airport is. OK, so after dinner everyone was going back to the lounge when I went back to my room to freshen up first and I turned the tv on to catch the top news stories. Lo and behold there was a story about a plane crashing into the sea after leaving Palermo Airport.

BTW - That was the second freaky thing to happen that day. The other was seeing the horse die at the track. It was the #6 horse in the 6th race on the 6th day of the month.

...and you want me to go to a casino with you?

Hey..... I didn't hurt myself this time!

I suggest....ROME!!!!!!!!!

no, that plane left from Bari airport (in Puglia) and crashed into the sea near Palermo. It is not clear yet what this disaster was due to, the only thing they are sure it was not terrorism. It was a Tunisinian ATR, full of Italian tourists, en route to Djerba/Tunisia. Thirteen people died. Another 20 were rescued.

It is true that Palermo airport is generally considered by pilots to be "difficult to approach" because of the mountains nearby (Punta Raisi). Almost 30 years ago a plane crashed, with more than 100 casualites. No other disaster happened since then, though. When I go to Sicily I prefer landing in Catania, anyway....

I suggest....ROME!!!!!!!!! [/b][/quote]We'll be there! Gelato here I come.

Realistically, how cool would it be to do it in Italy? However, I think that we'll be in the good ol' USA.

BTW, It was really weird when SC came back from his room and said, "You're not going to believe this..." and described the plane falling into the water. Very freaky!

No body calls me a fickle and gets away with it! Well, except that one guy who called me a fickle, and then ran away. He got away with it. But everyone else who has ever called me a fickle didn't get away with it! Well, actually that one guy who called me a fickle and ran was the only person to ever call me a fickle... But starting today, only half the people who've called me a fickle would've gotten away with it!

:p I'm sorry, I couldn't help but quote Family Guy.

Palermo.

As a group we could get serious discounts in airfare, and we could rent a Villa for a week with cook and maids for a total of about two or three grand for the group.

Give me the word... I take care everything.

Not a bad idea. KC is even closer yet. Could see a Royals game, or wait until autumn and catch the Chiefs. I've seen one Chiefs game (against the Browns; blowout) and it was definitely a good time.

Why, you couldn't handle all of us wild women Part!

Seriously, I've never been to KC before. Wouldn't know what to expect, except of course, with Part....the unexpected.

TIS

Very true TIS. But that would be "part" of the fun.

You know that Part! He'd be a "gas gas gas"!! :p


TIS

I found a great place for 2006!! My mother went there the other day and said it's beautiful and that the food was very good. It's the Renault Winery in Egg Harbor, NJ. She said it's about a half hour from Atlantic City, so gamblers can have their fun if they like without a worry that it will consume the weekend.

The place has a hotel called Tuscany House (I know, I know!), a restaurant, golf course, pool, etc. They have a package that includes your room, a bottle of their champagne, dinner, a tour of the winery, and wine tasting. It's $265 per couple on weekends for June-October, less during the week, and even less in May. If anyone would like to see the website, it looks very pretty.

Winery and Tuscany House

Wine? in New Jersey? Whine maybe. Only kidding. I think my daughter went to a wedding there. Supposedly very nice.

We could have a side trip to the Pine Barrens to find the Russian from the Sopranos.

Speaking of which...SB did you know the famous Pine Barrens scene from the Sopranos was filmed in Harriman Park near Lake Tiorati??

Wow, it looks like a very nice place!

I may go there anyway one weekend.


Don Cardi

Wine? in New Jersey? Whine maybe. Only kidding. I think my daughter went to a wedding there. Supposedly very nice.

We could have a side trip to the Pine Barrens to find the Russian from the Sopranos.

Speaking of which...SB did you know the famous Pine Barrens scene from the Sopranos was filmed in Harriman Park near Lake Tiorati?? [/b][/quote]Yes, and I heard that the scene where they get rid of Ralphie's body was also somewhere in the Hudson Valley, perhaps Sloatsburg?? Not sure. Also, when Tony is in Maine with Meadow to look at colleges, and shoots the guy? Also Rockland County.

Well, my mother's not much of a drinker, but she said that this place is famous for their blueberry champagne, and that they greet you with a glass. She's been there a few times and really likes it. They do it as a group and include a trip to AC.

Why don't we have it in Miami you can all stay at my house.

I don't know about that, I don't want to have to pay $40 for a $30 breakfast

that was funny

You know, I think it's great that all you NYers get together from time to time. I'd be there in a minute if I were closer.

Since I'm sure the travel/expense isn't easy for everyone,I'd suggest, for the regular posters who are interested to have, say I shall, "regional" meetings. :p Of course it'd never be the same without the head honchos like Geoff/SC, but still could be a whole lot of fun. Then we could also have a yearly bash for those who want to go as well.

I don't suppose there's anyway to do a breakdown by state of who's who by state.

TIS

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Da Gangsta BB Familee goin nationwhy mang!


Fock Casper Comez, an Fock dee Fockin Diass Brothas, WE Bury dose cockarochez!


Don Cardi

Right. Many of the Member's Profiles are incomplete, and those that have a "From" area may be listed by state, city, county, etc.

The closest you'd come is looking at our Directory and sorting it by either name or number and then by "Location". Be prepared to see a lot of nonsense entries and blanks.

By this time you don't know who lives near ya??

That's funny how you call all of us NYers.

Many of us are originally from NY City and now live in New Jersey (Myself, Don Cardi, Turnbull) or other NYC suburbs (SC, Sicilian Babe).

There's not one board member that I am aware of who actually lives in NYC.

Ah, but PL, once a NYer, always a NYer, isn't that true? Or, as my brother likes to shake his head and say about me, "You can take the girl out of the Bronx, but you can't take the Bronx out of the girl."

True. I still consider myself a NYer.

Yea, I guess I do sort of lump you all together don't I. I know Geoff's and SC are in Jersey; I know MC works or worked in NYC, but he's from another area too if think. I think Don's Advisor is right in NYC, if I'm not mistaken. For some reason I think of NY/NJ as one in the same I guess. Sure can tell I'm not a NYer!! Sorry for the error, but I still think you're all great people.

TIS

You know, it is called the tri-state area, and I think that many people sort of lump anyone from CT, NY and NJ together and call them NYers. I do still live in NY, just not in the city.

That's funny how you call all of us NYers.

Many of us are originally from NY City and now live in New Jersey (Myself, Don Cardi, Turnbull) or other NYC suburbs (SC, Sicilian Babe).

There's not one board member that I am aware of who actually lives in NYC. [/b][/quote]DC still lives in a NYC suburb. Didn't get to Jersey yet.


Don Cardi

Oops...I forgot, DC.

To me, where you live isn't New York or New Jersey.

Hey this may be a crazy question but did you guys already have the 1st Convention..?

Now that's a good idea Kansas City is only about a 4 hour drive from where I live. I live in southeast Nebraska.

Personally I'd love to be able to attend a BB convention, I think it would be really cool to meet some of the other folks from this board. But that's just my 2 cents worth.

Yes, I've managed to disporve that theory that " No Man Is An Island."


Don Cardi

Not crazy. We had a "convention" last year in Chicago that coincided with an organized Crime Convention being held. The thread for that get-together is still listed under "General Discussion" ('search' for "Greetings from Chicago").

The second big sitdown was last weekend in Jersey.

You live near the City?

Now that's a good idea Kansas City is only about a 4 hour drive from where I live. I live in southeast Nebraska.

Personally I'd love to be able to attend a BB convention, I think it would be really cool to meet some of the other folks from this board. But that's just my 2 cents worth. [/b][/quote]IceMan -- which city in NE? [/b][/quote]Seward it's about 25 miles west of Lincoln.

Well guess who just e-mailed me today?
The promoter of the Golden Age Of Gangsters Convention that we went to in 2004!

This is what he wrote me :
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"Hi, I've been trying to work with the Holiday Inn Midway in Chicago. It's right at the airport, free parking etc-but they are giving me a ridiculous quote for the room I need, so I dont know yet what's going to happen...I'll definitely know as soon as I know... Stay in touch-talk soon-Harry"
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How ironic is it that this guy drops me an e-mail today just after I posted over in the other topic that I have been trying to contact him for 6 months?

Hey, we just might have our venue for the 2006 Gangster BB weekend after all!

I will definately let you all know as he let's me know.


Don Cardi

Another appropriate location would be San Francisco. I was there about 3 years ago with Saladbar; The FFC Winery is a nice tour with GF memorbilia; and there's alcatraz, not to mention their Little Italy, which is very quaint. The food in Frisco is good as well. I would love to see it again. Although, rooms may be costly, I'm not sure.

Just more food for thought.

TIS

TIS, I loved Frisco when I was there. I also loved the Alcatraz tour! Wine country was beautiful. ANd yes, the food is great at Fisherman's Wharf. I must go back there one of these days.

But let me ask you something, let's say that H. Lawrence pulls off another Golden Age Of Gangsters Convention in Chicago next year. Would you have any objections going back to Chicago?
My personal feeling is that a place like Chicago would work for many and would be a fair location for anyone that wants to travel from anywhere in the country.

However if H. Lawrence doesn't pull it off, I just may come stay at your house!

Den chu and I can rye da coast baby, I rent a convertible mang! One wit leopard skin interiror! But chu gotta promise to kiss me if I wear da hat!


Don Cardi

DC,

I will try to make it wherever it ends up. (ok, I doubt I'd travel to Timbuktu :p )I loved Chicago. I was just tossing ideas around. So far we've had Kansas City, Miami, NYC, Chicago & San. Fran. (did I miss some?)

I have one suggestion however, no matter where it ends up, that is, preferably a hotel that is close to restaurants, shops, etc. I have no complaints about the hotel in Itasca, but it would have been nice if it was walking distance to shop/eat or just walk around. Don't you think??

Oh, and one more thing, I refuse to eat breakfast anywhere that doesn't give 3 eggs when you order a two egg breakfast.

Btw, does anyone want to throw out a "ballpark" month for this get-together???

TIS

Actually TIS, Harry Lawrence told me that he was trying to get a Hotel near the Airprot if he pulls this one off in Chicago. At least it wouldn't be in the boondocks like Itasca was! NO CAB RIDES FOR ME!

I agree that the next one, no matter where we wind up MUST be somewhere where we can walk around, or at least a short cab (UNGH )ride to other activities.


Don Cardi

DC,

Wasn't Lawrence planning on having the next convention in NYC???


TIS

Same time frame we had this one first weekend in August. As long as it is when school gets out. Chicago is fine with me. If we can stay at one of the Hilton chains Becky can get us a discount.

Chicago?? In the spring?? Don't you freeze your you-know-what's off??

Ha ha! The midwest/east can be very unpredictable weather-wise. I remember it well. When I was in NYC 2 yrs ago it was early/mid September and it was kind of muggy and hot even tho there was light rain a couple of days). It's hard to tell what the weather will be.

I must say, I would love to see NYC again. Something about that city!!!!


TIS

The Naked Cowbody did it for you, huh?



(I'm posting the image here, cuz you don't want to do an image search for "naked cowboy" -- or maybe you do )

Oh yea!!! LMAO!! I forgot about him. Is he still around?? He was a head turner, that's for sure.

Yea, I want to walk around Time Square, shop, site see, eat to my heart's content and just enjoy.


TIS

P.S. Ha ha ha...Geoff we posted at the same time. Hey, I have his picture in my photo album. Don't know if he can sing, don't know if he can play a guitar, but he looks gooood!!!

Come back, come back!! We'll go wherever you want, eat at any restaurant you like, just come back!!

Come back, come back!! We'll go wherever you want, eat at any restaurant you like, just come back!! [/QB][/quote]We'll do lunch!!! :p But I'd have to have Mary Cas join us. He's my NYC guide.

Done! It would be very funny if I got to meet you and MC at the same time, considering that he and I live about 15 minutes from one another!!

He originally had planned one for 2005 in NYC and he tried getting a sponser hotel, but was unsuccessful. So he's gone back to his roots and is trying to set one up in Chicago for 2006.


Don Cardi

Just a note to you crazy guys and gals - any hotel around Midway airport in Chicago is the same distance, if not farther, away from downtown Chicago than the Itasca hotel. Also, the area around Midway isn't the greatest.

If you were to have it in Chicago, I suggest actually staying in a downtown hotel. Then you can really walk around, shop and do touristy things. There are also hotels in the North side of Chicago, which is close to downtown and in a nicer location with lots little shops and restaurants.

Thanks DS. It's a real plus having friends who live in a city to give us input. I was wondering about that myself.

Lori & I went downtown but it was on a Sunday and many places were closed. It sure looked neat though.

If it ends up in Chicago you'll be there right??? What if it's elsewhere?


TIS

Of course I'll be there, TIS! And this time, when I drive you guys around, you won't have to inhale any car fumes!

If it's elsewhere, I'll try my best, but like Plaw, JG, and SC - it better be a place with an internet connection - fantasy sports take no vacations!

I really don't think we have to be that anal about rooms. I'm sure they have flights going between NJ and CHI daily


btw, why was I left off the list

Who are you? :p

I figured your fiancee would take care of it. She is, after all, your better half. :p

I visited the Big Apple in March of this year, and he was still there, dancing out in the middle of Times Square.

Another idea.
Have the first part of the convention onboard an Amtrak train picking up attendees. Eventually arriving in New York as a destination, and then continue the sit-down on the return journey.
Possibly even reserving a bar-car and a pullman? (now that would be a blast)

Here is the url to the amtrak page that has a link to a route map, and also at the bottom of the page the list of route's and the cities they pass thru.

http://www.amtrak.com/servlet/ContentSer...&cid=108007 2922209&ssid=4

Around here he is referred to as Don Geoff :p

Tony D,

I like that idea. It sounds fun meeting everyone en route and all arriving at the same time. We could party the whole way. :p I haven't got the time now to check out the Amtrack schedule, but how difficult would it be to make sure we are on the same train as we stop at individual sites. I wonder how long it'd take from CA though???

What's everyone else think?

TIS

Well, since it ends in NYC, I'm a tad prejudiced. If you could get a private party car, it sounds like it could be a great deal of fun! However, I must tell you that my husband once traveled to Florida by train because his mom was afraid of flying. He said it was awful. All of that stuff about seeing the country as you travel? Bull. The parts of the country that are near train tracks are not something that you want to see.

My father took the train home from San Diego to NY after being discharged from the Navy. He said that all he remembered of the trip was waking up three days in a row, and being told that they were still in Texas!

I never traveled Amtrack. Has anyone else recently traveled by train? If so any comments.

SB I certainly would not be in for a week long train trip with no scenic route to get to NYC, but a couple days I could handle...only because I'd know I'd be meeting friends along the way. If you have good people to hang out with I could forget whether it's scenic or not, although hopefully it'd be halfway comfortable.

We'd make the NYers pick us all up at the depot and continue the party from there. :p

TIS

Or another thought. Have this convention somewhere in the middle and we travel til East meets West, and it'll include everyone, with some of course being closer and some farther from the final destination.


TIS

TIS, don't worry, you come stay with the Babe Family. My mother will make you some good Sicilian food, we'll drink some wine, show you a good ol' NY time!!

There is a place in Philadelphia that SC told me about a while back. The ship used in GF II, The Moshulu, has been converted into a restaurant in Philadelphia at Penn's Landing.


http://www.pennslandingcorp.com/default.aspx?pn=p&flag=63


The location of the ship itself is Penn's Landing, 401 S. Columbus Blvd, Philadelphia, PA 19106.

There is a Hyatt Regency Hotel located at 201 South Columbus Blvd. Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 19106.

ANd yes Geoff, it has HIGH SPEED WIRELESS INTERNET!!!

Just another Idea to throw around.


Don Cardi

How cool would that be, DC? Very GF!! Can we stand on the deck and pretend that we're seeing the Statue of Liberty for the first time? Sounds really good, and I've been wanting to go to Philly. Haven't been there since I was a kid.

My husband went there a few months ago for business, and there was a convention in town so, boo hoo for him, his company had no choice but to book him a room at The Four Seasons. He said it was incredible.

Now, if JG only had a laptop! :rolleyes:

That's a great idea too DC! I remember a discussion about that ship. Very cool!

It's good we toss this around. We have plenty of time. Perhaps toward the end of this discussion we can have a BB poll and those who plan on attending can cast their votes and decide that way. What do you think?

IMHO, assuming enough notice (workwise), no financial pitfalls and/or personal emergencies, I'll will try to go anywhere (in the US)that everyone wants to go.

SB, thanks for the offer.


TIS

That sounds like a great place DC. Just think we could go stand on another piece of GF history. And there is a couple of Hampton Inn's there so maybe Bec can get us a discount.

There's also a Doubletree!! We really should strive for consistency with these get-togethers.

She can get a discount there to. I really liked the Doubletree. I'd stay there again. The exec. chef called and left a message about how he wanted to talk over the survey I sent back via e-mail. To bad I wasn't home I would've love to have a little chi-chat with him.

Actually, Hilton has a number of hotels in Philly. Doubletree, Embassy Suites, Hilton, Homewood Suites, Hampton Inn, and all in the downtown, which is great. I love Embassy Suites. They're so comfortable.

I love the idea of Philly. It has so much history.

Are any of them near or in Penn's Landing Waterfront?


Don Cardi

From the maps, it looks like the Embassy Suites may not be that far, but I have to look more closely. Don't laugh, but I hear that the flower show in Philly is spectacular.

Ignore me cause I'm thinking way way ahead (well ignore me after someone answers my question :p .

How far is Philly from NYC???? Just thinking, if this ends up anywhere close to NYC, I'd love to go to NY afterward and spend a couple days there. Is it hours to drive it or better to fly? Sorry but I have no concept of direction back in the Eastern neck of the woods.


TIS

Probably about a 3.5 hour drive. Unless you're driving with JG; then it's only 15 minutes!!

I never made the drive myself, but it's not that far. According to THIS it should take less than 2 hours....

Edit: 3.5 hrs? In SB-time I guess. :p

NYC is about 1.5 hrs north of me, and Philly is about an hour due west of me -- even if you detoured to the Jersey Shore you could make it in less than 3.5 hrs

Really? I thought it was further than that. I guess I should've checked the web.

ETA: Of course, you need to stop for coffee, which then forces you to stop to pee, and while you're at the rest stop, you get more coffee, and maybe some beef jerky, bu the 2nd cup of coffee means you need to stop and pee again, and while you're there, you get more coffee.....

That's not bad at all. I thought it'd be much further for some reason (probably because I just didn't know )

Thanks guys, that's good to know.

Keep those suggestions a-coming!!!!!!


TIS

Funny, if you look at that map... I live right by the "s" in "Pinewald Keswick Rd" -- but I've never even heard of that road before!!

If I'm coming from WV It will take me 6 1/2hours or if I'm coming from Bec's house cuz I know she will want to come
5 1/2 hours. I'll say it again I LIVE IN THE WRONG STATE

But Mig, look how far I'll be coming? No way would I "drive" cross country when flying is soooo much faster.


TIS

Just an endless cycle. I hate having to stop so much. When I go on a long trip I hate being in the car I want to hurry and get there. Hey SB would you and Mr Babe drive or fly to Philly?

I don't blame you a bit TIS. We drove across country this year for vacation. Went all the way out to Cally and seen the sights along the way. That was a long 3 weeks but it was fun.

Mig,

You should check out the flights, with what you'd pay for gas, it might not be a whole lot more to fly.

You were in Cali and didn't give me a call??? Where in CA were you?


TIS

Check your PM

Actually from The Moshulu area to Downtown Manhatten is a 96 Mile Drive.
So figure around a 1 Hour and 45 Minute Drive.

Don Cardi

I thought I'd just refresh this thread. I've been doing some research and found a few sites that may or may not be of interest. I haven't read each through thoroughly, but just food for thought. All input is welcome. I figure we have time so we might as well toss things around.

Ok, I think this one is more for coproration, so we're not quite there yet. :p

web page


Part had mentioned KC, and I found this link

Kansas City

Of Course Chicago (I know we've mentioned this before)

Chicago

This one sounds like it might be fun in San Francisco

San Francisco

And of course, while there, we'd have to see this:

web page


St. Paul
web page

Then of course there's the one and only NYC, which I couldn't find any kind of gangster tours/events , but then with half the group from the area, we'd have our own tour guides. :p

TIS

The Coppola wine tour would really be a nice thing. Although if I did something like that, I would definitely plan a long vacation around it.

I liked that company that will set up a gangster theme. Pretty neat!


I still maintain that a place like Chicago is a good choice due to the convenience for everyone traveling there.

I hope that the guy who promoted the show there in 2004 will do one in 2006. He claims that he is trying to get one together for 2006. We'll see.

And of course, the gangster capitol of the nation, NYC is always a good choice. Good food, nice hotels, nightlife, plenty of things to do, and plenty of places to tour where real life stuff happened as well as filming locations for mob movies.

Don Cardi

Found this one in Chicago :


http://www.hollywoodcollectorshow.com/Rose.htm

May 6th and 7th 2006.

Don Cardi

I think it depends on what everyone wants to do. I think that the Jersey thing was perfect, because people did different things during the day, while others just came for the company.

Personally, I think that if you're going to get together, then just get together. I don't think we need a big convention or other distraction. If we were to do it in Manhattan, then there's certainly enough to do there (Sopranos tour, Ellis Island/Statue of Liberty just to name a quick two) that would be Ganster related. And like you said, DC, there are certainly very few cities that offer more in the way of restaurants, etc.

To be honest, I would LOVE to go to NYC again. I agree SB, there is so much to see, and I'd like to see again some sights I've already seen (i.e. Ellis Island, Little Italy). The food is spectacular, there are many GF sights in NY that our members know. Like DC said if we were to choose S.F., coming from the West Coast, I'd have to plan a longer stay if it were in NY. There's no way I'd only spend a weekend there, or half the time would be flight/airport time. :rolleyes:


TIS

P.S. I do think you all would love San Francisco though, and even if not this year, keep it in mind for the future. It's a great city.

I'd vote for Las Vegas.

Vegas?? I love Vegas (my other favorite city). Rooms are very reasonable, weather is great (except in summer), food is good, and lots of things to see and do (besides gamble that is, although I can't go to Vegas and not gamble at all :p ). I'm for that too.


TIS

Since I won't be able to attend unless a NYC or NJ location is chosen...I'll abstain from any voting and wait to see what's decided.

Everybody have fun deciding and planning.

Apple

Don't shoot me for this suggestion, but would it be worth it to post a thread and have everyone who would like to go vote on a location??? (I know, not another poll :p ). Just to get an idea.

I'd suggest only those who are serious vote and consider how far they are willing to/or can afford to travel to, rather than simply for the convenience of having it close to home.

I know it's an expense more for some than others (myself included). For me, I will definitely try to go anywhere, but would need time to plan/save if it were on the East, and vice versa. Since we are just tossing ideas around and have the time, why not?


TIS

Gee, TIS, it sounds like you're looking for an excuse to return to NY. Which we would love, by the way. It seems that your name comes up every time I get together with these guys, and only in the best way, so come on back!!!

I have to honestly say that anything as far as LV or CA would require an extended vacation for me, and that means that I would not be able to make it (kids, those pains). Or I'd have to bring them, which would definitely cut down on the fun, for me AND them.

Sure. We can always go shopping for sandals.

Apple, SB I understand your situation. Fortunately I don't have young ones at home, so I don't have those problems anymore.

SC, no matter where we end up, I promise you a sandal store won't be far away.


TIS

I've seen things like this get really confused when the voting choices are scattered way out there.

While I'll still abstain from voting since only one location would be good for me...might I suggest that Don Cardi, JGeoff, SC and possibly plaw look over the links provided and decide on THREE finalist cities. Then put those 3 out to a vote and everyone gather at the winner in 2006.

Don't count this as a vote since I wouldn't come anyway...but I happen to agree with Don C about the 'convenience' of travelling to Chicago which really is the one central point for almost everybody.

Incidentally...why does it have to be a 'major' city?
What would be the problem with everyone booking a chosen motel at some smaller vacation spot like Wildwood, NJ. Much cheaper, plenty to do and even within driving distance of AC in case anyone can't live without a visit there. From what little I saw of the most recent convention, it doesn't look like much more than a few nights out on the town and a visit to some kind of 'mob' or GF related location.

Of course, I've only partaken in one of these things...and showed up late at that. So what do I know..???

Not that any of the above is to be counted as a 'vote', mind you. Just enjoying a streamofconsciousness.

Hope y'all were enjoying it, too!!!



Apple

Never mind the convention. Have you started reading yet?


Atlantic City. Hmmmmmmmm.

Don Cardi

I don't know if I'd personally be able to enjoy Atlantic City*


*that is of course unless a certain restaurant doesn't own a casino

I'd be able to come out to Atlantic City.

Actually DMC, I was just kidding with that post. We've discussed AC in the past and felt that a place like that would probably not be a good venue. Too many distractions that would probably cause everyone to do their own thing. Not really what we would want for our convention.

Personally I feel that if enough people from these boards were serious enough to commit to coming, Chicago would be a fair location for all. If others are really not serious about attending and won't commit, then NY/NJ area would be reasonable as most of us who attend come from this area. That is just my opinion.


Don Cardi

Washington D.C.

DS

We want to have a Godfather Trilogy Convention, Not a General Discussion / Other Political Convention!


Don Cardi

We want to have a Godfather Trilogy Convention, Not a General Discussion / Other Political Convention!


Don Cardi [/b][/quote] Good one DC. Actually I'd love to see D.C., but I can just see it now....the dreaded Political Debate. If PLAW and SB didn't show, I'd be all alone.



To follow-up on DC's last post, it's probably most logical to ask, since most of you are East Coasters (or surrounding areas), who of you would attend if it were outside your area? If nobody can, then the only option would be NY/NJ no????? Do you guys have a preference between NY/NJ or Chicago?

TIS

Me, I have no preference really. Chicago would work fine for me. I liked that town and wouldn't mind going back there at all. The only objection that I would have to going to Chicago is if the others from around the country did not commit to attending and it wound up that the east coast faction and yourself only attended. Not that I wouldn't travel 10,000 mile to see you TIS, but you know what I mean.


Don Cardi

Ha ha ha!! You know, I was thinking, if I "am" the only one coming from a significant distance, and had to choose, I'd definitely choose NYC. Not that I didn't like Chicago, cause I did. I'm going to try to make it wherever it is, but if I'm gonna travel as far as Chicago, hell, I might as well go to NY. Unless of course gas prices rise so high that flights are out of my price range. I can't afford an arm or leg. :p


TIS

I tink dat da Don Malta guy shud pute a real Gofatha convention togetha mang! We find a hotel here on da ease coast mang. Den we rent da confrence rume, have a big party on Saturday nite mang, drinks an food, and have da epic play on a big screen. Maybe I even try ta get Gianni Russo to come down mang, he living back on da ease coast now. Wat chu tink mang?


Don Cardi

If the convention was to be held in Chicago then I'd try like hell to attend. Since I live in Nebraska that wouldn't be that far of a drive for me. Plus I have relation in Chicago.

But if it was to be held in NY/NJ then I just wouldn't be able to attend.

Chicago is nice. I hadn't been there in years when I went last year. I really enjoyed it. Lori & I attempted to go shopping but it was Sunday and most everything was closed. I would have loved to look around more. Neat city.


TIS

I would say there is almost 0% chance I would be able to leave the NY/NJ/CT area...maybe a little but definitly not Chicago or LA etc.

You're kidding, right? You are so far to the right that if you tried driving down to Washington you'd end up in St. Louis. :p

You're kidding, right? You are so far to the right that if you tried driving down to Washington you'd end up in St. Louis. :p [/b][/quote]


At least this time he would have an excuse for being a day late. :p

Don Cardi

Yes, I've read the first few pages outlining the situations of Bonasera/Fontaine/Nazorine...that was during lunch on Friday. Didn't open the book all weekend, though.

Don't be surprised if this takes a while.



Apple

Yes, I've read the first few pages outlining the situations of Bonasera/Fontaine/Nazorine...that was during lunch on Friday. Didn't open the book all weekend, though.

Don't be surprised if this takes a while.



Apple [/b][/quote]Well it's a start.


Don Cardi

By the time you people finally decide on a Convention location...I may have actually made it to Chapter 2.

Maybe it would be cheaper to just pay to move TIS out to Jersey lol

How much would you like to bet?


Don Cardi

Wow I go out of town for the weekend and I come back to making plans for the '06 convention. For me I can make it to NJ/NY / Chicago / Washington. You have to remember that alot of you smoke and doesn't NYC have the no smoking law? So I don''t know how if that would work for you smokers. All I ask is we need a time frame set up. So I can give Becky plenty of time to get that weekend off. I personaly wouldn't mind going back to the DoubleTree. I would like to see the horse races. Or go back to Harold's Deli yum-yum. Just not eat at that Tuscany's again.

That's not a bad idea they used the Washington Hotel there In GF2.
-or-

Someone came up with the idea of going to Philly to see that ship that young Vito sailed to America on. I forgot the name of the ship.

It was our dear Don Cardi. I don't know anything about Philly. The only time I was there was for a trip with, I believe, the Girl Scouts when I was about 11.

I've never been there :rolleyes:

How many would REALLY be interested in Philadelphia?


Dinner on The Moshulu. Nice hotels nearby. This may really be a good idea.

Opinions please?


Don Cardi

I can't think of a better venue for dinner than the ship, but keep in mind that Philly is famous for closing up early. If our hotel's bar stays open late I guess the rest of the town can go to sleep early. I'd still want some guarantee from the hotel on the bar's closing hours, though.

TIS - The Philly airport is a short ride from the downtown section where many of the hotels are AND you'd be able to climb the steps that Stallone did in "Rocky".

Miggie - Forget deli sandwiches.... you HAFTA try one of the local Philly cheesesteak sandwiches!

SC -But I must hear strict assurance
from The Hotel. When time goes by
and the night grows darker,
will he attempt to close down the bar?

Hotel Manager - The Hotel Bar will guarantee to stay open.

Don Cardi - Wait a minute, you're telling me
that The Hotel Bartender guarantees
that they will stay open late?

The hotel manager hears him first, and then very slowly turns to face him. Everyone in the room knows that DON CARDI has stepped out of line.

Geoff - Young people are greedy, and they
have no manners. They speak when
they should listen. But I have a
sentimental weakness for my
moderators, and I've spoiled them, as
you see.


------------------------------------------------------------

Don Cardi

I've never been to Philly, and don't know anything about it, except of course Rocky Balboa lives there :p and the cheesesteak sandwiches are good. Oh, and I think the tv show "Cold Case" is filmed there, if I'm not mistaken.
Sounds fun too.

TIS

Philly is nice. I go there several times a year, and there's lots to see and do.

The only thing I would suggest is a hotel closer to what they call "Center City". Penn's Landing is a bit out of the way and not really walking distance to any of the other attractions.

We have at least two Philadelphia members that I can think of: Johnny Ola and Big Daddy Don. And Beth lives in Baltimore, only about 2-3 hours away.

Good point PLaw. I think it's a good idea to be within walking distance of attractions. The Chicago hotel was very nice, but we weren't around anything we could walk to.


TIS

And don't forget the Liberty Bell, although I hear it's not what it's cracked up to be.

Philly is doable for me. It does sound like fun. And we can always cab over Penn's landing for dinner, because the Mosholu sounds like a must.

D'oh!!

Well, I am ok with Philly too, but I have a couple two/three questions: :p

This is a "weekend" thing right?
Is September firm, or are we flexible?
Does anyone one who knows at this point that they are going to be attending flying, or is it driving distance for all?

Also, for my NY friends who DO drive to Philly should we decide there; if I decide to go to NY for a couple days after the get-together, can I catch a ride with someone back to NY to any convenient point where I might get a cab to hotel??? I'll be glad to give an arm for gas money.

Lastly, to my friend Mary Cas, I sure hope you can make it, but if you can't, you better at least let me take you to lunch if I make it to NYC.

TIS

FYI Speaking of gas, I heard a report on MSNBC this morning saying fuel would skyrocket by this winter, which in turn would increase airfare considerably. They also said, although I don't understand fully why, that would in turn raise hotel rates on famous attractions as well.

TIS- I doubt any of us would allow you to get in a cab back to Philly.

TIS, It's definitely within driving distance for me and Mr. Babe. And I would hope that it would be earlier than September, or at least before the kids go back to school. This last one in NJ was in August, which I think works better. And of course you can catch a ride back up to NY with us. We'd be honored.

Right now I am more concerned with when and not so much where at this point. I agree with SB I like the time frame we had it over the Summer. Just my worth. If what TIS says is true about hotel rates being on the rise, maybe it wouldn't be a bad idea letting Becky getting us a discount through one of the Hilton chains IF there is one close by. Just another

SC,

Don't worry I'll eat a Philly cheesesteak sandwich. yum-yum
I'll try anything once except seafood. I'm alergic to it.

Actually I wouldn't mind August either (all but the first week). I like the summer, humidity or not.

Mig, as far as hotel goes, that's what I heard this morning on MSN, but your guess is as good as mine, as to how "up" everything will go. I am a little more concerned, since I'm coming from the other side of the States, that my airfare will skyrocket, which could "pinch" my budget.

I'm open to whatever everyone else wants to do. Keep the suggestions flowing. Now's the time to talk about it.


TIS

Mig, I did some research and found this hotel, which is exactly 7 minutes away from the Moshulu and Penn's Landing where the Moshulu and other places are located on the waterfront.

>>"Located in the heart of Philadelphia's arts district along the Avenue of the Arts, the Doubletree Hotel Philadelphia sits just across from the Kimmel Center for the Performing Arts, the Academy of Music, and Merriam and Wilma Theaters. Walk from our hospitable downtown hotel to South Street, the Italian Market, Antiques Row, Rittenhouse and Washington Squares, the Pennsylvania Convention Center, the Historic Waterfront District, world-class dining and shopping, and all the unique historical sites that make Philadelphia a national treasure. With easy access to I-95, Philadelphia International Airport is only 20 minutes from our hotel.
Our excellent location and friendly staff offer value and service to business and leisure travelers. The Doubletree Hotel is ideally situated for groups. Our well-appointed guestrooms, suites, and executive accommodations on the private-access Tower Level feature gracious, traditional décor, generous work areas and high-speed internet access . Enjoy casual dining at the Academy Café, or your favorite beverages and light fare at The Standing O Bistro & Bar.

Our full service hotel provides concierge and tour services, as well as inviting onsite recreational amenities like a sparkling, indoor pool and whirlpool, sauna, fitness center, sundeck (great views of Broad Street and downtown Philadelphia), racquetball courts, and a rooftop garden and jogging track. A full compliment of business support services and flexible meeting and banquet space provides everything a corporate traveler might need to remain productive while in Philadelphia.<<"

Maybe Becky can give us some "inside" information on this hotel and find out what the rates per night will be. She can use a date, just for informations sake, of a check in on Friday August 18th to Sunday August 20th. Again, just using those dates for the purpose of getting a rate. Nothing more right now.


http://www.doubletree.com/en/dt/hotels/index.jhtml;jsessionid=AE331TQJHPLG2CSGBI YM22QKIYFCXUUC?moreDesc=true&ctyhocn=PHLBLDT


Don Cardi

DC - Thanks for highlighting the 2 most important parts of that info; now I don't have to read the rest!

EXACTLY why I did it! Godfather!

:p

Don Cardi

I'll call her at work tonight that way she can look it up while I am on the phone with her and I will post the info.

Our own Mama Corleone of the GangsterBB taking care of it for us.

It would be great to get Our Mama Corleone and Our GangsterBB Godmother together at one of these things.


Don Cardi

That would be worth the drive alone just to meet the Godmother herself in person. You heard Don Cardi TIS we both have to show up.

Watch out, SC!! You're being shown up!

SB, you're on a roll today, putting both Plaw and SC to shame-- first the poem, now this!

Oh, Zia, you flatter me too much. Any way we can get YOU to Philly? Maybe the others want to do Ganster stuff, but I'm sure we can find some shopping....

And when you tell Mr. Babe that you need money for shopping, and he asks you how much, what are you gonna say?

"This Much!" (as she holds her pointer finger 4 inches from her thumb)

Don't worry, Mrs. Cardi will be right there with you.


Don Cardi

I tried to get in touch with Bec with no luck. She wasn't at home or work and she is not answering her cell. So I left a message on the house phone her cell phone and I also sent her a e-mail. The guy who answered the phone at the hotel told me that she is working tomorrow night. So I will try again tomorrow night. Sorry

Now you're talking!! I just got back from shopping, actually. There are very few things more fun than buying a bunch of stuff... I don't know why.

As for my showing up, I'm thinking about it. It really depends on when/where it is.

Now you're talking!! I just got back from shopping, actually. There are very few things more fun than buying a bunch of stuff... I don't know why.

As for my showing up, I'm thinking about it. It really depends on when/where it is. [/b][/quote]Zia,

I'll meet you at Ontario airport, and we'll fly out together. How far are you from Ontario???

TIS

If I go, that sounds like fun! I'm something like an hour and a half from Ontario. As opposed to like 20 minutes from LAX and like 30 minutes from Burbank. But that's okay, I don't mind.

Again, not to put too fine a point on it, but Penn's Landing and the waterfront is a good 16-20 blocks from Center City.

I've been to Philly maybe 20 times in the last 8-9 years, and the only time I was down there was to eat in one of the trendy restaurants.

Believe me, as far as I'm concerned, aside from the Mosholu there really aren't any "attractions" there.

We'd be much better off in Center City, where there are hotels and restaurants in all price ranges and you are walking distance to Independence Hall, the Liberty Bell, etc., and the all-important shopping.

Actually though, now that I think about it, why go to Philly at all when NYC is only 90 miles away?

It really has nothing to do with the fact that most of us East Coasters live closer to NYC, either.
Everything in NYC is better: Hotels, restaurants, shopping, attractions.....

Of course if you NY-NJers want to see Philly for a change of pace, that's one thing. But for the people coming from afar, going to Philadelphia when you could go to NYC is silly.

Yeah, God forbid any of you come to the Left Coast though, right? :rolleyes: :p

Well I don't know much about Philly, but you all know I love NYC, and like I mentioned in an earlier post, if I travel as far as Philly, I sure want to try for some time in NYC since I'd be that close.

Zia, ha ha..it's opposite for me, I'm about 40 mins. from Ontario and maybe an hour from John Wayne (OC) airport. I thought you were a little closer. I understand why you'd want to go to the nearest airport. And as far as the NYers coming to CA...we'll have to rent a big enough SUV and kidnap them. I wonder if they'll be able to handle all the sunshine. :p

TIS

They'd probably either go blind or melt.

Seriously though, I wouldn't mind Ontario. I've heard lines go way faster there, and it's a lot less crowded.

My mother used to warn me about going blind. I promised her I'd stop when I needed glasses.

When I first read this, I thought you were going to meet in Canada!

When I first read this, I thought you were going to meet in Canada! [/b][/quote]Ha ha ha I have a bad sense of direction, but if I drive to Canada to catch a plane, get me some help.

TIS

That would have been funny, especially since both of us were going along with it like there's nothing wrong with the idea-- the blonde leading the blonde.

So SC, finish the story... how's your eyesight now? :p

Huh??

Wow, you follow along pretty well around here... I'd never guess that you can't read most of what's being said!

Mig, were you able to find anything out about the rates in that hotel in Philly yet?


Don Cardi

Unforunately when I called the hotel last night she wasn't there. She must've called off. So I called the house and her cell phone again but she didn't answer. It is a pain trying to get ahold of her. I just hope I never need to get ahold of her in case of an emergency :rolleyes: . But I will try again today when she goes in for her shift. Sorry again

Thank you for your efforts, Mig. They are much appreciated.

Aww you are very welcome.

I was able to get ahold of Becky tonight at work so she was able to get the prices for us they are as follows:

1 room W/king size bed- $199.00 a night plus tax
1 room W/2 queen beds- $ 212.80 a night plus tax

In order for Becky to negotiate a group rate she will need to know how many rooms we will need.

Thank you Mig. I'll do whatever you and the rest decide on doing. I have no problem with going to Philly, and no problem with staying in that hotel. So once the others give their opinions, you can take it from there.


Don Cardi

I'm telling 'ya....

If we go to Philly, we're much better off staying downtown, not only because of proximity to the attractions.

There are more hotels, which means more competition, which means lower rates.

Can you suggest a couple of them?


Don Cardi

What dates are we talking about?

http://www.philadelphia.com/travelnowcal/calendar.html


Why don't we TENTATIVELY use Friday August 18 - Sunday 20th. Just to get a base Idea of rates. Then we can go from there.

Personally I would like being in a modern hotel vs. a historic older one. And I really think that a waterfromt hotel is nicer. But that's my opinion. What's the big deal about staying a couple of miles from the town itself? If someone wants to go into the historic area of Philly, they take a short 5 minute cab ride. Heck, when we were in Chicago, we were 40 miles outside of the city itself. I'll never forget that cabride from hell!

Keep in mind three things Plaw. A Bar that stays open late in the hotel, free wireless internet ( for Malta ) and also that MIG's daughter works for the hotel chain that owns the hotel that she quoted us from. And that quote was not YET a discount rate.


Don Cardi

Well, I guess we have some time then.

Everytime I've been to Philly the last few years, we made our reservations just a few weeks in advance when the hotels had a better idea as to their occupancy and room availabilty, and are more likely to offer discounts, especially through the websites like Travelocity or Orbitz.

Everytime we were down there, we got some kind of special weekend package for around $100-125 a night, which usually included breakfast or free parking or some other perk(s).

I also prefer the newer and more modern hotels, although we once stayed in The Latham which is older, but very charming. It was kind of like the Plaza in NY used to be: None of that modern cheap hotel furniture which makes every room look exactly the same; each room was decorated differently, and they had windows which you could actually open.

As far as downtown vs. waterfront goes, believe me when I tell you that there is nothing worth seeing or doing down there except restaurants. At least in my opinion, anyay.

I much prefer being able to step out the door and being within walking distance of everything.

Just checked Hilton.com for some rates. You can get a room at the Hilton Philadelphia on City Avenue for the weekend of 8/18-8/20, inc. breakfast for $169/nite with king bed, $204 for executive floor. Executive floor privileges vary from hotel to hotel, but they all have a lounge, which could be cool.

Embassy Suites City Center, which also gives breakfast, plus they have happy hour every night included in your room, have rates of $179-$199 for those dates, depending on which suite you book. It seems very centrally located, within walking distance of museums, etc. and 1.8 miles to Penns Landing.

Embassy Suites is also owned by Hilton, so Becky should be able to get us a discount there as well. Embassy Suites sounds like a great deal to me. But that's my 2 cents worth.

Just for kicks, I checked the Waldorf Astoria and the Millenium Hilton on those dates. Inc. Breakfast, a king bed deluxe room at The Waldorf is $329 per night, and the Millenium, near Ground Zero, is $209. The Embassy Suites, which is also downtown and offers harbor views of the Statue of Liberty, is $225 per night for a King suite with harbor view. If you can live without the view, it's $206.

Just thought you might want NYC rates as well.

I'M IN!!!!!!!!!!!


Don Cardi

Thanks for all the info guys.

Ok, I know we are in the talking stages and there is plenty of time, so I'll just give my views, with every intention of going to see you guys no matter where we end up.

It looks as tho, at this point, Philly and NYC are the only real choices. Of the two, I'd pick NYC.

And as far as location in Philly, I'd be tempted to go along with PLaw. Maybe being from CA, I'm not used to hailing cabs (never do) and like the idea of walking out of my hotel and having everything fairly close.

Plus, when I went to NYC two years ago, I believe it was PLaw who suggested hotels to me. I ended up at the Edison, which at that time was $150. and it was within walking distance to everything. It wasn't brand new nor real luxurious but it was very nice. I wouldn't hesitate to stay there again. I trust his judgement and may ask him again for assistance if I go to NYC again.

I know the Aug. 18th date was just tossed in to check hotel rates. However, I like the idea of August, cause the weather should be to my liking. :p However, can we make it the weekend before or after????? I understand we can't make petty changes to satisfy everyone, or we'd never get this show on the road, but just thought I'd ask.

It's nice to toss around this info because everyone will get an idea of what kind of expenses/tastes we are looking at. I like to plan these things. :p

Thanks again everyone and continue to post your thoughts/suggestions.


TIS

TIS, You're right about so many things. NYC IS great. However, it can also expensive. And hotel rooms seem to be on the rise BIG time. Downtown is much less expensive, but doesn't offer the restaurants, shopping and other attractions of midtown. It does, however, offer Little Italy, Chinatown, the Statue of Liberty and Ellis Island, and Ground Zero, of course. Then there's Century 21, one of THE best shopping experiences in NYC, IMHO.

So, it really depends on what we want to do and what we want to see. And, as far as dates, I think those would absolutely be flexible.

Hi SB!!

Like I mentioned earlier, it's my intention (if possible) to go to NYC after Philly (should we end up in Philly). I'm browsing prices now. Like I said I stayed at the Edison (47th St./Broadway I believe)last time. My question is, is that area considered East, West, South or Upper. :p Where the heck was I????


TIS

You were on the west side of midtown.

For Monetary reasons we might not be able to stay at the same place as everyone else, just incase you are going for a group deal we can't be guaranteed to be able to afford it. Just an FYI

I remember you mentioning that before... if I make it to NY, you'll take me there, right?

I remember you mentioning that before... if I make it to NY, you'll take me there, right? [/b][/quote]Well Zia, does this mean you're thinking about it???? You'll be on break from school right? Feel free to add any input you like. We're all open to discussion.

TIS

SC/Geoff, what are your thoughts. Where do you want to go. Speak up lads.

I remember you mentioning that before... if I make it to NY, you'll take me there, right? [/b][/quote]Let me think about it....YES!!

TIS, if you go on priceline.com, they have a great map of NYC broken down by neighborhood. Here it is: NYC Map . Hope that helps.

I've done quite a few searches and any good hotel in either Phialdelphia or Manhatten is going to cost $200 and up per night. Personally that don't matter to me. However I feel this is a group venture and we need to find something that is affordable, satisfying and agreeable to all of us. If some need to stay at another hotel because 6 of us choose to stay at a more expensive hotel, then to me that defeats the whole purpose of getting together. And it's not fair. In that case I'd rather we choose a hotel that everyone can stay at, this way we can all be together.

We must try and find something that best suits us ALL.

Maybe someone can come up with another Idea. Another place for us to go. I don't know.

We do have plenty of time to work with here and hopefully we can come up with someplace that is suitable for all who are really serious about attending.


Don Cardi

I agree with you DC. If we don't get in the same hotel together than why even bother. I know what you mean DMC $200+ a night is out of my price range but maybe we can figure something out. I still would like to know when and not where.

August 18-20 sounds great to me, a nice break before school starts.

I see a lot of "JFK Airport Hotels" and things like that, has anyone ever stayed at one of these? Are they better or worse than others?

Those hotels here in New York often have "short-stay" rates available (if you catch my drift).

Don Cardi

More food for thought....

Last April when checking flights to Michigan, I couldn't believe that the cheapest flight I could get was $450.- $550. Twice as much as I paid to go to NYC. Anyway, thru Priceline, I thought I'd "name my price", which guaranteed departure/arrival between 6:00 a.m. & 10:00 p.m. (no overnight flights), and on a major airline. For the heck of it, and being willing to take the gamble, I put in 250., well they came back with a $327. which is still over $150. less than I was finding searching "regular" flights.

Now, I know they do the same thing with hotels and looking thru the Priceline site, you can choose (I used NYC since I have a vague idea of the area as compared to Philly, which I don't know at all) whether you want a 2,3,4 star hotel showing a map (SB provided) so you can check the areas you're willing to stay, and put in a price you're willing to pay, then they'll either accept it or offer you another price. The thing is, once you purchase it, there are no refunds and/or changes. Anyone ever use this for a hotel before??? Another snag would be, we'd have to order rooms at one time, by one person to guarantee we are all in the same hotel.

Another suggestion which I haven't followed up on yet, is I have noticed with some hotels they offer a "group" rate, in many cases for 5 or more rooms. I'm guessing we'll have around 5 rooms no????? I don't know how much of a discount they're talking but we could check that.

Finally, DC, I don't get you're last reply. :p JFK airport area is no good???????

TIS

Those hotels here in New York often have "short-stay" rates available (if you catch my drift). [/b][/quote]oh a pay by the minute

Now I know lol

Oh!!!! I get it now!!! I'm in "blonde" mode this morning. :p




TIS

As far as Manhattan goes, I'd agree.

But as I've said, I've stayed in Philly many weekends the past several years, and always paid around $100-125 a night.

I juust checked both Orbitz and Travelocity, and all of the hotels seem to have their regular rates listed.

I think the problem is that we are looking way too far in advance. Hotels don't start offering discounts until they have an idea of what their occupancy and availability is.

If a hotel can sell out all of its rooms at its regular rate, why should they offer any discounts? But by next June or July, when a hotel sees that they are only maybe half full for a weekend in August, they becoming willing to offer lower rates.

Our problem, though, is that we can't wait until June or July of next year to figure out where we are going.

Or can we?

I might also add that the town in which I live, Secaucus, NJ, has more hotel rooms than any other town in New Jersey except Atlantic City.

The reason is that I am located literally 10-12 minutes (if no traffic) from midtown Manhattan, and there is regular bus service to and from the city at all hours.

Almost every one of the mid-priced hotel chains has a property here, and the rates are well under $100 a night.

Since so many of us live in NY/NJ, there will be plenty of cars for transportation in and out of Manhattan, and even if you factor in the toll and parking in the city - which can run about $30 a day in a midtown garage - if three or four people go in one car and split the cost, it's not that much more than the round trip bus fare (about $5).

Once in the city, everyone could go their own way if they chose to, or stay together, or whatever, and we could all meet somewhere for dinner.

Not the same as staying in Manhattan, of course, but considerably less expensive.

And in terms of things to do, etc., you absolutely cannot compare Philadelphia to New York City.

Of course, I'm thinking more here of those members who are coming from afar. I can understand that for some of us Philadelphia would be a nice change of pace, and we could feel like tourist/vacationers too.

I also thought about Atlantic City, but there are a few problems with going there.

If you're not a regular gambler who can get free or discounted rooms, the rates on the weekends in the casino/hotels are ridiculous, and there is no "middle ground". The hotels/motels that don't have casinos are all relatively inexpensive, however they are also all total dumps unless you stay outside of town.

And while there are several very good restaurants in the major hotels, if you don't gamble, unlike Las Vegas, there is really nothing to do there.

Here's another idea, though:

I thought about the possibility of renting a house somewhere on the Jersey shore for a week.

Depending on how many people/couples we had coming, I know that you can rent, say, a 5-6 bedroom house for a week for maybe $2-3,000. Split 5 or 6 ways for a week, that's pretty inexpensive. You have the beach, the nicer shore towns have plenty of good restaurants, and there will be enough people with cars for day trips to Manhattan, Atlantic City, or even Philadelphia.

Of course, living in a house together for a week is a far cry from everyone going to their own hotel room at the end of the evening, but we would certainly get to know each other.

PLaw I see your point on the hotels and you are right. If we wait, a better deal is likely. Although there is still plenty of time IMHO, I wouldn't mind setting at least a date/place by say the first of the year. Being the only one thus far flying in, I can try to book a flight before the airfare skyrockets like I expect it will. If it gets too pricey to fly, then that would put a damper in my budget.

Just for a quick count...so far those expressing a desire to go are:

PLaw & gf
SC & Lori
Geoff
DMC & gf
DC & wife
SB & Hubby
Myself
Don Smitty & wife
Apple (if in NYC)
Mig & daughter

That's 17. Not bad!!

Possibly Zia??? What about others in the NY area like JL and DJ???
Who am I missing?
Ha ha do I get bonus points for traveling the farthest??

TIS

You get unlimited Cute Little Blue Drinks for your entire stay!


Don Cardi

What do you get for coming in 2nd traveling the farthest?

Becky told me about a Hampton Inn in the city center. 1 room 2 Double beds-$129.10 AAA Discount $116.10 She said they have a free breakfast. But no lounge and you have to pay $15.00 a day to park. She told me she would do some research on the other Hilton chains and get back to me.

All the Deli sandwiches you want during your entire stay.


Don Cardi

Fuggedaboudit!!

That is a good Idea Plaw. Just a thought why don't we stay at that Double Tree in Somerset. Maybe Becky could get us a group rate. That hotel was great except for the no wireless and Tuscany's but we wouldn't have to eat there. I liked that lounge and it was big enough for this group of bber's. Someone told me and Becky that we could take the train to the city. We didn't go but that is another story. Any thoughts? Or is somerset to far away from the city?

Mig,

Are you talking Philly or NYC???

You might also ask Becky if there are "group" rates as well. If I'm correct, we'll have at least 5 rooms and that's what I've been seeing the minimum is for group rates.


TIS

Thoughts do come and go.


If you guys are really serious about Staying in New Jersey, across the river from Manhatten, then look into this Hotel :
http://www.hilton.com/en/hi/hotels/index.jhtml?ctyhocn=EWRAHHH

They have a lounge for SC , and wireless internet for Don Malta.

Here are the rates : https://secure.hilton.com/en/hi/res/choose_rates.jhtml;jsessionid=55HXBLPYFOUDUC SGBIW2VCQKIYFCVUUC?_requestid=446439

Don Cardi

I still say Wash DC.

DS

When you really think about it DS, there really isn't much to do in Washington DC. Not the kind of area that you would walk around in at night. Of course during the day there's a lot to see, but then at night you're locked down in your Hotel.


Don Cardi

They do have a lot of night tours threwout the city that are nice.

DS

DC,

I'm in. How far is that away from the city? I'll ask Becky about group Rates. Are you gonna be our tour guide in the city?

This is YOUR gig, Mig! You're in charge of this one.


That Hotel is right near Newark Airport. And a tunnel's ride to Midtown Manhatten.


Don Cardi

I don't know how I got to be in charge of this gig but ok :rolleyes: So who is ok with the Newark Hilton? Show of hands please DC since you are a local you can be my Consigliere you can be in charge of the itinerary. Is that a deal ?

Possibly. And if I come, I beat you for the farthest distance by like 80 miles. I know how you feel about your Windex-in-a-pretty-glass... maybe I shouldn't come, I'd ruin it for you.

So is Vegas out of the question now? I don't know, I mean you guys are saying good hotels, internet connections, and nice lounges that are open late-- it all sounds very much like Vegas to me. Although still, Philly or NJ/NYC sound great too.

Possibly. And if I come, I beat you for the farthest distance by like 80 miles. I know how you feel about your Windex-in-a-pretty-glass... maybe I shouldn't come, I'd ruin it for you.

So is Vegas out of the question now? I don't know, I mean you guys are saying good hotels, internet connections, and nice lounges that are open late-- it all sounds very much like Vegas to me. Although still, Philly or NJ/NYC sound great too. [/b][/quote]And that will put me and Becky in 3rd place now :rolleyes: Hey I'll settle for 3rd if that means you will come Zia

Aww thanks! How sweet. I'll make it worth your while, Mig.

You and Becky are about the same age. I know you will get along fine.

Sounds good! How come she doesn't post, by the way?

Possibly. And if I come, I beat you for the farthest distance by like 80 miles. I know how you feel about your Windex-in-a-pretty-glass... maybe I shouldn't come, I'd ruin it for you.

So is Vegas out of the question now? I don't know, I mean you guys are saying good hotels, internet connections, and nice lounges that are open late-- it all sounds very much like Vegas to me. Although still, Philly or NJ/NYC sound great too. [/b][/quote]As far as I know everything is open to discussion Zia. However, as you know, most of the members are from back East, and unlikely would be able to or would want to venture out as far as Vegas. Although as far as hotels, you can't beat the price for what you get in Vegas.
Anytime you're heading out that way, let me know there's always a pretty good chance I could meet up with you there.

Anyway, I do hope you do go to NYC, Philly or wherever we end up. I would love to meet you.
But damn, did you have to ruin my chance to get free blue girly drinks? Oh, okay, so we'll buy you the windex drinks.

TIS

TIS, that's true, you and I are a lot more willing to travel far than they are. To me, whether or not I come depends on the exact weekend-- as long as nothing comes up that weekend, it doesn't matter if I'm going to LV or NY. Although like a lot of you said, if it's NY, I want to stay longer than the weekend, so I'd have to have a good week to ten days free around the dates.

Good question Zia. You're guess is as good as mine haha

TIS-

Since you got bumped to 2nd place I hope you like Deli sandwiches

S'cuse me but I drove over 2k+ miles to go that shindig in August. And will do it again to.

Wow, I never realized it was that far! How long did that take you?

Yea! What Zia said. :p I never realized it was that far either. We Californians don't have any concept of distance when it comes to the Eastern part of the States.

Mig, why didn't you fly??? That's one hell of a drive.

TIS

If you guys are serious about staying in Jersey, we're much better off here in Secaucus.

There are at least two or three hotels that I know of with a "lounge" :rolleyes: and it's much closer to Manhattan than Newark Airport.
Plus, we can have a big party at my place.


I'll do some checking into prices and stuff when I have a chance.

Looks like you found your consigliere Mig. Plaw is more familiar with the Jersey "Territories" than I am, so he's much better qualified than I. And if he picks a Hotel that is anything like the restaurants that he has picked for several of our dinners, we're in good shape!

I handle Staten Island and Manhatten. SC Handles The Bronx and Queens, and we share Brooklyn. SC's father used to run Molasses out of Canada, with trucks provided by my father.

This can really become another Appalacin! We'll have representatives from New York, New Jersey, California, Virginia, Ohio, West Virginia and possibly Chicago.


Don Cardi

oh great DC, what happens if they pick a hotel that is around a forest or wooded area. I'll have to decide between my hunting gear or a silk suit.............who am I kidding? It would be much easier to talk my way out of being in the woods if I'm wearing the silk suit

If we do decide on New Jersey, then I say we rent a mini van or mini bus and have Don Smitty give us a REAL Sopranos tour. With a stopover at the Bada Bing!


Don Cardi

Don't worry DMC, I'll just tell them that my Luca Brasi now sleeps with the Dear.


Don Cardi

But that would involve him actually BEING THERE and TALKING

EXACTLY!!!!


Don Cardi

AppleOnYa

Yeah, they're all such small states, I always figure it's like the distance between counties here in California.

Yea! What Zia said. :p I never realized it was that far either. We Californians don't have any concept of distance when it comes to the Eastern part of the States.

Mig, why didn't you fly??? That's one hell of a drive.

TIS [/b][/quote]No I had to drive from Ohio to VA to pick up Becky then to Somerset then back to Ohio so Bec could spend a day with her grandparents then back to VA then back home to WV.

I call a window seat

Wow. I'm getting carsick just thinking about it.

Here are a list of places to have the '06 Covention so far:

Chicago
Philly
Washington DC
New Jersey
New Jersey(Renting a Summer house)

Did I miss any? Is there any other ideas?

Please keep in mind that a few of us can't afford high price hotels. That might make some of us not be able to attend. Just food for thought.

Las Vegas

If you plan on having it in New Jersey, let me know. I'm currently living in New Jersey and would be interested in attending then.

Well there were a lot suggestions mentioned throughout this thread, including Chicago, San Fran., D.C. I know we keep going back and forth and many suggestions sound really good.

PLaw mentioned Vegas, and more food for thought...you most likely can get great air/hotel packages to Vegas in August if you don't mind the heat. Anyone interested, and/or have never been there should browse around if you're the least interested. You'd be surprised at hotel rates that time of year, with most all of the known hotels on the strip being nice (of course gambling is where you spend most money).

All that being said, perhaps it's best to ask the "right" Coasters and vicinity (since there's more of you), how many would be willing to go to Vegas, because I'm guessing it'd be a smaller group than if we decided on the East Coast turf (so to speak ) If anyone wants, I'll be glad to check on rates/packages during that time period. I love Vegas, I love NY, both being my two favorite cities.


TIS

I'm going to Vegas next Tuesday.

That's great JL. Where are you staying? The weather should be pretty nice this time of year.

Btw, are you gonna try to come to our "convention" this year??


TIS

Mignon, if they decide on a NY/NJ location, I can name a few hotels in my neck of the woods that are a little more reasonable than all these 'Hilton's' and still close enough to be able to join the gang for a little fun.

For what it's worth, I'm not booking any hotel regardless of where the convention is. If it's in my area, 'll just drive out to meet with everyone for dinner as was the case last time (only hopefully I'll get there in time to eat something...). If it's in Manhattan, I'll hop the bus/subway.

Apple

If we end up in NJ/NY, I have no problem with any of you who know the area choosing a place, since you all would know what's good and reasonably priced. Also, if it's in NJ does it matter if I arrive via JFK, LaGuardia or Newark airports? I'm guessing Newark no??

I know Apple said she wouldn't be staying at the hotel, but for those of you who live in the NY/NJ area, would you be staying at the hotel, since you live in the area, or would you go home and return the next day?

TIS

I would still stay at the Hotel TIS. This past August almost everyone stayed at the hotel. So for the most part I don't think that it matters to us if we are close to home or not. What matters more is the comraderie. Personally if I hang out with everyone and have a couple of drinks, I would rather have a room to go to as I refuse to drive when I drink. If we're having a good time, who the hell wants to be looking at their watch and worrying that they have to drive home?

As I've said several times, I will do whatever the group decides as a group, as long as we get to have a weekend together. But personally, I think that Philadelphia would be a nice place for us to go to. Plenty of sightseeing to do, The Moshulu for a dinner, and for someone like yourself it's still close enough for you to go up to New York after the weekend for an extended vacation. Hey, you could have the best of both worlds.

My Vote is Phialdelphia.


Don Cardi

Here's a Hotel that I found in Philadelphia that's reasonably priced and close to the Historic sites:

Wyndham Philadelphia At Franklin Plaza
17Th And Race Street
Philadelphia, PA 19103
$119 per night.
Shula's Steak House - On-Site
Terrace Restaurant - On Site
Cocktail Atrium Lobby Lounge/evening Shula's No Name Lounge
In Room High Speed Internet
Computer Business Center or cybercafe


http://www.wyndham.com/hotels/PHLFP/main.wnt

It's 3 miles from the Moshulu and approximately 1.5 miles from The Liberty bell, Independence Hall, etc.


Just another suggestion.


Don Cardi

More food for thought: While looking at the hotels in Plaw's area I noticed that one of the hilton chains was already booked for that weekend of the 18-20 in August. Becky told me yesterday that we should set a date and book the room. We can always cancel if something better comes along without penalty's. Do we want to stay in a Hilton chain and let Becky get us a group rate?

Looks like a nice hotel DC! I don't care where we go really, and anyone else seriously interested that hasn't posted, please do so. Nothing is in stone at this point. Once we narrow it, or if it still remains between NYC/Philly, then we'll just have to make a decision. I am waiting for Geoff/SC's ideas. They have to go, or it just wouldn't be the same.

Btw, can we make it the weekend of 8/11 instead of the 18th?

TIS

Not a good weekend for me next year TIS, sorry. But if everyone else can, then please do NOT worry about me. I just cannot go that weekend.


Don Cardi

My 2c: If we're going to Philly, I'd rather stay in Philly. NYC isn't all that far for anyone wanting to go afterwards - or even take a train one day during the weekend. Amtrak takes about 1:15 to get there, for (currently) $42 each way.

But, I'm pretty much up for anything. Y'all know my basic necessities.

I understand DC. The 18th isn't the best weekend for me, and I wouldn't be able to definitely commit. I realize we can't work around everyone's schedule, but if it's not complicating matters further, and since we are still planning, may I suggest we post a couple different dates or month, as options? Just a thought. If not, that's ok.


TIS

That's great JL. Where are you staying? The weather should be pretty nice this time of year.

Btw, are you gonna try to come to our "convention" this year??

TIS [/b][/quote]I'm staying at Ballys. I haven't been to Vegas since last year. I used to go about 4 times a year, but now I go to Aruba instead. As for the convention, I probably won't be invited since I keep missing out on the local dinners.

JL,

Why you silly boy!! You know you're invited. The only clout anyone needs is to be a BB member. We all qualify. There may be a trip to the "Bada Bing' in it for you. :p

Never stayed at Bally's, but usually stay in that area. Have a good time and if you come back rich, let us know.


TIS

Then we'll just pick another weekend. Nothing is written in stone.


Don Cardi

Don Cardi

Newark?? YUK!! And any hotel near an airport is going to be incredibly noisy, and tons of people coming and going. Gross.

I still think that if we choose Philly, the Embassy Suites is a good choice. It's $179/nite, but that includes breakfast every morning. It also includes a nightly reception. AND everyone gets a suite, which is nice if we want to visit one another's rooms. As Plaw has said, chances are that the rates will go down as we get closer to the date as well. And the location seems perfect.

Here's the link to the hotel website: Embassy Suites Philadelphia

Just saw the post about The Wyndham. My husband was just in Philly on business and stayed there (he highly recommends Room 601). He was very happy with the hotel and said that Don Shula's was one of the best steakhouses he's ever eaten in.

Very good, Cardi! And I sure hope Heidi can make it this time!

She's no Trish

Sure, sure, I research hotels, restaurants and so on, and what do you guys do?? Post photos of semi-naked women for one another!! You're bad, bad boys!!

Maybe that's why I got along with you all.

SB likes Trish too?

I knew that's why I liked ya lol

If Mr. Babe says so thats good enough for me.

We went to Shula's when we were in Chicago and I was very highly impressed. They even thaw out the desserts!!

The company of others notwithstanding, the most important thing that I'd consider in picking a place for our sitdown is what amenities are available in the immediate vicinity. I don't mind travelling a bit for a daytime activity (i.e. a ballpark or the track) but I'd like a good restaurant and a bar in the IMMEDIATE area. If I wanna "let my hair down" (no smart-ass remarks, please) I don't wanna have to worry about travelling back to the hotel.

Sure, the rates are important to consider, too.

FWIW - I'm leaning towards Philly. (Hmmmm, if the wind stops blowing I may fall over).

That certainly clears that up!

Don Cardi [/b][/quote]You forgot Tongue

Well, I think that Philly would be a welcome diversion for us all. Anyone who is coming from a distance and would like to add NYC on to their trip, it is certainly doable. As I said earlier, if TIS or Zia need a ride to NY, there are certainly members that could accomodate them. I know I would. And Philly sounds fun, with plenty to do. And I like the idea of eating on the Mosulu. Very GF.

Doing it in NYC is a great idea, but it is rather expensive for many, especially midtown. Even the less expensive areas are more expensive than most. Unless we were to stay in a nearby area, like Seacaucus or Hoboken that offer easy access to Manhattan, but doesn't that sort of kill the purpose? Again, just my two cents.

As for dates, we should be able to find some weekend in July or August that works for everyone, no??

How about the weekend of August 25th?


Don Cardi

Thanks for the input SB! I don't want to make the "date" thing a big deal, but I'm thinking with so much time surely we can come up with an agreeable date. The 3 or 4th week in July works for me.

FWIW the last two weeks of June and first week or two of July are not good for me (due to closing & opening of school year) Other than that I shouldn't have any problem with the date we decide.

Anyone else's thoughts on the date/month?

TIS

Sorry but that won't work for me with school starting.

OK, so August is out then. July is also a tough month as many people go on vacations throughout that month. So maybe a weekend in the spring or the fall will work.


Don Cardi

Ok, don't worry, we'll get something. Let me ask this, for those who have kids in school, is the school year out of the question? Or just the starting of the school year??? Do you all prefer the summer months?


TIS

What about the first weekend in August?

TIS cannot make it then.

When does school start where you live?


Don Cardi

School starts earlier than up here for some of our members. But either July 28th or August 4th weekends should be okay, no?? And I would prefer to do it when the kids are not in school because of all the crap they have going on during the school year that they need to be chauffered to and from.

Is early/mid September out of the question? For those of you that have kids, when do they start school?

Mid-Late July then?

P.S. What happens if they ban smoking in Philly by then, like they're trying to?

I would prefer in not be in the fall but if it has to be then so be it. I'll just get my in-laws to come down and babysit my 9 year old. And if they can't come down then don't worry about me.

You guys, listen, if Aug. 18th was good with everyone, let's just leave it at that. That's fine. I certainly don't want to be a thorne on anyone's side. If that's the best date, than that's the best date. I'll see what I can do, but don't let me hold the planning up. The fair way really should be whatever time is good for the majority. Nobody mentioned Aug.18th wasn't good, so let's leave it.


TIS

P.S. Thinking about it, at this point, it's the 18th itself that I can't make it, but I can fly in on the 19th, so all is not lost.

That will never happen.

Then you go behind a building and smoke it... saw a guy smoking a joint yesterday. Such a bad city. I strongly encourage y'all to make sure no one ever has to walk anywhere alone down there. I had my first real experience of Philly yesterday. I compare it to North Korea. What a piece of shit.

Well, did anyone say no to July 28th or August 4th weekends??

Yes, but now it's ok again.


Don Cardi

Aug 4th weekend is a "no" for Lori and me.

I don't even have a 2006 calendar yet, but everyone else is all booked up for the summer??

Ha ha!! See! Me and my can of worms. :p

SB, long story short, I work year-round school in which all tracks start in the summer. Opening is the busiest time. While school itself (3 of the 4 tracks)starts in July (5th or so), the 4th track starts in either late July or first part of August (a few days different every year). I don't have next year's school calendar with me, so I'm not sure about the 06 school year yet. Last year it started I think Aug. 5th.

Where any other time of the year, I'd simply request it and have no problem getting it, I'd need to check with my boss during that time frame. Difficult, not impossible I guess.

As far as the 18th of Aug. goes, I can make a phone call and perhaps rearrange my commitments, I don't know, but I can try. But before I do either, I want to make sure of a date.

Damn! My life is so complicated. :p



TIS

Stop with the Rocco Lampone imitations. :p

Stop with the Rocco Lampone imitations. :p [/b][/quote]You didn't know I did imitations did you??? Sound just like him too.


TIS

Listen mang, firs we talking New Chork, Chikaco, Los Angely, Pheely, New Chersey. Den we acree on a place mang. No problem mang. Now we chuss ga to acree on a date mang. Dis stuff go roun an roun makin me tizzy mang! Lye I snort too much yayo! Chu all decite on da date mang, and den shu ley me no. Ok mang? Ok. Da fockin Matla mang, he da Gafadda of dis boar mang? All dat guy care abow is his focking stoli mang and his hi spee eenternet mang! Guineas, Mob guys, I dunt truss dem!

Chu no wha I tink mang? I tink we all shude go ta Cuba!


Don Cardi

I would like to try to meet other memebrs of this discussion board the next time everyone meets. Is there anything I have to do, right now?

Yeah tell us where you would like to have it.

Hi Don Lights,

It's not too late to attend this year's. We have a lot of time, and as you can see, haven't even set a definite date yet. We'd love to have you. Feel free to give us suggestions as well.


TIS

If you opt to head into Philly - I can probably hook you up with some good places to eat and visit. I saw earlier some mention of The Moshulu. I used to visit that quite often when I was a Little Daddy - down by the waterfront for some drinks and walks - was a good place to take the ladies on dates. It was not bad - have not been there in a few years since the fire but I don't know if that is a place everyone will like. Granted it was in the movie but as a ship - to me that may not be a reason to have dinner there. It is like everyone going to Cheers in Boston cause of the show only to get inside and be like - wtf. They have a lot of smaller tables overlooking the water, not sure how a big table for all of you will work. However it is not a bad place, but there are better places for dinner. Matter of fact if you like Italian food there is a great restraurant right up the waterfront. It is believe to be mobbed owned - that is the story, but for Italian food it is great. One of the places where like each table has 3 servers - soon as you put a fork down someone is there with a new one - class place and the food is delicious. Again pure Italian cuisine - when we were there earlier in the year with friends the background music was The Godfather - we just looked at smiled because of the mob reputation it has - but again great great place. I would recommend that over The Moshulu for dinner but you could also stroll down to The Moshulu for drinks afterwards.

If you hit NY or even in Phila, for those of you traveling out of town - was a dinner and cruise on The Spirit of NY (or Phila) discussed. Takes you up the river - see the sights and have your dinner. Allows you to be a bit rowdy and nobody needs to be on their best behavior - although I doubt that stops anyone regardless of where you go. You do need to put up with the Broadway wannabee waiters and waitresses singing and dancing though - plenty of broadway tunes.

With that I can see Lezbo brining her cousin Bruno now -
Zia - They have ShowTunes !!!

Again in Phila, the waterfront is really nice, I enjoy it however PL is right if you want to do a lot of walking or bar hoping it is a bit out of the way of Center City - depends on your mood, for a visit to Phila, I do suggest the waterfront for dinner though and CC for during the day, i.e. Brunch, shopping, whatever.

If you go and as the time gets closer I can try and forward suggestions.

I am WAY dizzy. Dates and times and places....can't keep it all straight. OK, we need to decide on a place and a date. Should everyone post their availability?? Here's mine, as of now: I'm pretty free. I would prefer the end of July or a weekend in August, but right now we have made no plans. I also like the idea of Philly. The Wyndham is great, but I also think that we should consider the Embassy Suites due to the fact that Becky can perhaps work some magic, since it's owned by Hilton. Please post your availabilities and location preference.

I don't have one of them fancy 2006 calendars BUT we are available all weekends except if July 14 falls on a weekend we won't be available for that.

Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So Bad Daddy, what are YOUR good dates for this convention?

Y'know, at this point I'm not really concerned anymore about where/when the Convention finally ends up. Watching all this lighthearted headbutting over the place/date is almost as much fun as being there will be.

If that is, I end up being there.

Carry on....

Apple

SB you say you are dizzy well I have mega headache over this back and forth stuff. I will be glad to talk to Becky about her working her magic. BUT she will have to know how many rooms we will need. I will also ask her thoughts on where to go. I consider her to be a member even though she hasn't offically joined the BB yet :rolleyes:

There is NO head butting going on here Apple. It's human nature that when you have a bunch of people trying to decide on something, there is bound to be some conflicting ideas. Nothing that any of us will get peeved with each other about. I think that we are all too mature for that nonsense. We are all adults here. And at least those posting back and forth are making positive suggestions and making an effort in providing different thoughts and ideas.......instead of just sitting back and having fun watching others try to contribute to something of interest to all involved.


Don Cardi

I wouldn't bring Bru along, he'd embarrass me with his rehearsed song-and-dance routine and his "Divas Live: 1998" t-shirt under a distressed pinstriped Gucci jacket. Plus his shimmery hair gel leaves glitter everywhere, and he makes me hold his man-purse when he's dancing. Forget it!

Man, I feel so bad every time I make him sound gay... but it's so fun that it's totally worth it. :p

WTF do you think I've been doing all this time? :rolleyes: :p

This has to happen every five, six months. It helps to clean out the bad blood.

Don Cardi, I did stress lighthearted headbutting. In other words it's obviously not turning into an argument but it has gotten a little complicated even with all the 'positive' suggestions. And it is a little bit fun to watch.

And although I maintain it makes no real difference me where the convention is finally held...I did also make a few minor suggestions (such as it should be narrowed to 3 'favorite' cities, and the final location/hotel decided between the moderators, otherwise you have just too many options - that's not even including the dates which has evolved into another issue) ; even if I didn't expect them to be taken.

Anyway, carry on....

Apple

Actually Apple, I was thinking of suggesting narrowing it down to two/three places also, and have all of us vote on it, and whatever comes up comes up, but didn't want to complicate matters even more.

Too bad there's not a way to post a calendar and have everyone check off the time that isn't good and pick a weekend from there. (more complication).

When you think of it, if we were all sitting in my living room, say about 12 people discussing when to have this convention, there'd be the same discussion with people and conflicting dates. We simply have to do it on line, from day to day, which makes it drag out.


Bottom line, whenever, wherever, I'll try to make it.

TIS

EXCELLENT IDEA...and it probably would help in coming to a quicker resolution, as opposed to complicating matters even more.

Here's my final contribution - Vegas, Chicago, Philly, NY/NJ seem to be the most 'popular' suggestions and happen to cover each section of the USA. So why don't the bunch of you vote on those and may the best location win.

Or...choose 4 cities of your own and then have the vote.

As promised (over & over), I'll abstain.

There's certainly no hurry, as this is clearly almost almost a year away!! Let me know, I'll join the gang if possible.

Done with this thread,
AppleOnYa

If I was sitting with you in YOUR living room, I wouldn't be worried about where we would be going next year.



Don Cardi

Well, I suggest that SC now add TIS' living room to the poll!! TIS, that ok with you?? Just kidding!!

Sure! You guys are all welcome to come to my house. Although I must tell you, it's very small. We'd be on top of each other. It'll be like playing a game of twister. :p

I wanna know if Mary Cas is planning to attend?? What about Don Sicilia??? Anyone else that hasn't said anything at least thinking about it??

TIS

If this is happening next summer, I could definetly make dinner in Philadelphia and some parts of Jersey... that is if I'm allowed to be there. I'll be an adult by age then, so I hope no one plans on kicking my ass. :p

How far are you from Philly Pat?

Don Cardi

Mig - I can get to Philly in an hour if there's no traffic, but there's usually traffic, so I can make it in an hour and a half at the most. I just take 422 east out to King of Prussia and then I get on 76 East and head right into Philly.

Bring it DC. :p

Be careful what you ask for, you just might get it! :p

Just Kidding Pat.


Don Cardi

We haven't heard from Turnbull yet

I don't know, Don Cardi...history has proven you're not always kidding around when you make that statement!!!



Apple

I don't know, Don Cardi...history has proven you're not always kidding around when you make that statement!!!



Apple [/b][/quote] True, very true.


Don Cardi

Ok here's the scoop. Becky called me tonight and told me about a Hilton Garden Inn in Philly in the center city or city center whatever. A co-worker of hers has a cousin and he/she is the manager of that hotel. He (co-worker) told Becky that he will TRY to get his cousin to give us a 50% discount. Sounds good to me. And yes they have a restaurant and a lounge on the top floor, a pool, fitness center,suites. Here is a link Hilton Garden Inn
The only thing I don't like is you have to pay $20.00 a day to park. She will call and let me know when she gets all the details.

SO WHAT DO YA THINK?

Hi Mig,

I don't know anything about the location, but it looks like a real nice hotel. I couldn't find their rates though.


TIS

Plaw suggested that we stay at the city center or center city. It's suppose to be a good area and close to the sights. I'll ask her about the prices but if we can get a 50% discount I'm such a tight wad :rolleyes:

They have a bar?? I intend to get tight!

Well I'll drink my cokes right along with ya

Mig, for some reason all the hotels in Philly do that. They do the same thing up in Newport Rhode Island.


Don Cardi

Their advertised rates from the site range from $140 a night to $170 per night.


Don Cardi

It's not really in the "center" of center city, but it's close enough. Much better location than the waterfront, IMO.

Can we go in this neighborhood?

TIS

That would be a good idea to visit Rocky's famous steps. Everyone could work off the philly cheesesteaks they're bound to eat.

I may be wrong, but I think that the location where they filmed that scene is on the other side of town. Several years ago I went on a trip with my son's school to Philadelphia, to see the liberty bell, constitution hall, and all the historic places in that area. It was very interesting. Very enjoyable. But when I asked about the famous Rocky steps, I was told that they were not in the same area.

Anyone here more familiar with Philly that would know for sure?


Don Cardi

If I eat any of those cheesesteak sandwiches I'll be RUNNING down those steps.

Those steps are in front of the Museum of Art on Pennsylvania Avenue.

Mig, Not to push one hotel over another, isn't the Embassy Suites in Philly also a Hilton hotel? Their rates were pretty reasonably, and you get a lot for the money. Could Becky try and find out about that hotel? I posted the hotel link in an earlier post.

That sounds like alot of fun TIS. I'm gonna have to get in shape if I'm gonna climb all those steps Do they have that statue that they used in that Rocky movie there or is that just a prop for the movie?

Does that include gulping down the raw eggs like Rocky did in the movie?

And yes, I think that Rocky statue is there, I vaguely remember seeing a televised bite of the dedication/unveiling with Stallone there & everything.

Or did I just 'dream' that....???

Apple

The Rocky Steps are at the Philadelphia Museum of Art, which is a pretty good one but a bit of a hike from center city.

As far as tourist attractions go, though, don't get too excited. The Art Museum is good and they also have an excellent Museum of Science and Natural History (The Franlin Institute).

Also, if you really like Fench Impressionist painting, visit the Barnes Foundation, which has one of the best collections in the world. Just remember to email them for tickets a couple of months in advance.

But aside from those, the only attraction I found of interest was Independence Hall, where the framers of the U.S. Constitution did their work. There's a whole tour (naturally) which was pretty interesting.

The Liberty Bell? You walk past a big old bell with a crack in it. The whole thing takes five minutes, not counting time spent waiting on line. Then there's the Betsy Ross House. Nothing remarkable about that. You get to tour the house and see the room where old Betsy put together our first flag. Fifteen minutes, tops.

Plaw, isn't there a mint? I remember visiting Philly as a kid, and going to a mint.

Apple, I don't know the outcome, but wasn't there some sort of controversy over the Rocky statue? I believe that Sly wanted to donate it to the city after the movie, and they really didn't want it. I don't remember what happened, but do remember reading about that.

I guess while you're there you will have to check out one of the famous Philly Cheesesteaks places. My daughter went to Villanova - about 10 miles west of Center City Philadelphia. Occasionally at 2am they would make their way to Pat's for a cheesesteak. A cholesterol special!

Getting off track a bit, I read they are suppose to start shooting Rocky VI (I know I know) in Dec. of this year. How long does it take to shoot a movie?? :p Man, if they were filming while we were there??? Be still my heart. (assuming it would be filmed in Philly that is)

It sounds like there isn't a whole lot of touristy things to do there. If we go with three days, will there be enough to keep us busy??? Or...we could stay two and movit it to NY for the third. Although, if all goes well, I intend to end up in NYC anyway.

Rocky VI

TIS

Well, it sounds like there's enough to keep us busy for day outings, and then we can all wander back to the hotel for drinks and dinner.

And TIS, you're right. Imagine seeing Sly?? Bestill my heart.

There's also decent shopping (altho nothing compared to NYC, of course), and a half a day of walking along South Street ("Where do all the hippies meet?") is a must.

Gosh, Plaw, for a man, you know an awful lot about where to do the best shopping. :p

You're forgetting he's metrosexual. :p

I'm going for the cheesesteak in MC's link.

That's right!! What WAS I thinking??? I definitely want a big ol' fat-filled cheesesteak. YUM.

I want one to. But if I eat one you will have to push me around in a wheel barrow

I remember reading about a controversy a while back where the city and the Museum were fighting over who would absorb the cost of taking down and removing the statue. So I don't know if it is still there or not. I'll do some searching.

Your memory serves you well. There is a mint right in the area. I went there in May of 2002 and unfortunately at the time, they would NOT allow people inside unless you pre-registered. I believe that they did that because of 9/11 and security reasons. I am assuming that they've changed policy back to normal. We can find that out with just a phone call.

Ok Plaw, you killed me now! My wife was looking over my shoulder when I was reading your post, and she screamed out " Shopping? I'm There!!!"


Don Cardi

My kind of woman. It's never to early to do a little Christmas shopping

I remember reading about a controversy a while back where the city and the Museum were fighting over who would absorb the cost of taking down and removing the statue. So I don't know if it is still there or not. I'll do some searching.
[/b][/quote]Ok baby! I do a serch an I fine owe for chu abow dat Italiyan guys stachew mang! Here is wha I fine :

March 2004
"The original bronze statue of the fictional South Philadelphia fighter Rocky Balboa was intended to be installed at the Philadelphia Museum of Art, where Rocky bounded up 72 steps as moviegoers cheered.
Museum officials and art aficionados nixed the idea and the 8 1/2-foot statue eventually came to rest at the South Philadelphia stadium complex."


Ok Lady? I tole chu dat I rememba someting about dem guys takin dat statue awy fum da mooseum.


Don Cardi

Are you kidding me? She's halfway done with the Christmas shopping, which is great. The only problem is that when she picks a gift out for someone, she has this " One for them and one for me" mentality!


Don Cardi

Now, DC, there's nothing wrong with that!! Mrs. C is a woman after my own heart. I am WAY behind in my Christmas shopping. I like to be finished by Thanksgiving, and I haven't started yet. Unfortunately, I always end up buying something I love for someone, and wrestling with the idea of keeping it.

Everyone is always saying how they don't need anything anymore, our houses are too full. I tried gift certificates one year, and half of them were never redeemed.

Sorry to get off on a tangent. Back to the topic at hand -

Mig - ask Becky to find out about the Embassy Suites!

I'll ask her when I talk to her again. Probably sometime this weekend. And I will get back with ya.

Dude, between Mrs. C and us BB girls, I bet we could boost an entire city's economy. Look out Philly!!

Mrs. Cardi has the "patent" on shopping! When the stores see her walking in, they immedeatly raise their projected profits for that quarter.

You've seen Goodfellas, right? Remember the scene where Lorraine Bracco tells Ray Liotta the she needs money? And when he asks her how much she replies " This Much" and her forefinger is about 5 inches over her thumb? Well that scene is based on a real life occurance; Mrs. Cardi and I before I leave for work in the morning!

Believe me, if you ladies get together with her and go shopping, you gals could stimulate the economy in 2 hours!

Seriously though, she's a great wife, a super mom and she deserves anything that she wants.


Don Cardi

Awww, see? What a sweet husband. It's great to see a guy who recognizes this in his wife. Just in case you forget and give her a hard time one day though, I've got it quoted here. :p

Damn it! Woman always stick together no matter what!


Don Cardi

Yeah don't forget it.

What's your name, Johnny Friendly?


Don Cardi

Me? Johnny Friendly? That might be fun!!

I looked at the site for the embassy suite hotel in philadelphia. it does not say anything about a lounge/bar area. It looks like they don't have one.


DS

They have a nightly manager's reception that's included. Where do they have it if they don't have a lounge??

Manager's Reception
"Our nightly Manager's Reception features a variety of cold beverages and warm conversation, signaling the beginning of a relaxing evening. Enjoy them in our atriums that offer you a tranquil place to unwind and socialize."


Hotel Services & Amenities

Beverage Area, Complimentary
Breakfast Area, Complimentary
Lounge


What we need to clarify is what type of lounge that they mean. I don't see anything about a bar under the dining options. As for the managers reception, it states "cold beverages."

I know that the Embassy Suites in Downtown Manhatten has manager reception parties that are NON alcoholic, and they serve complimentary breakfasts also. While the one in Manhatten does have lounge areas, the hotel itself does not have a bar. If you want a drink you must go into the Chevy's restaurant that is attached to the hotel. So it is possible that Embassy Suites do NOT have bars in their hotels. A simple phone call should answer our questions.


Don Cardi

Well, that would suck then, wouldn't it??

Hey, no biggie, we're all in this together! At least you are contributing and trying to find a place for us all. Between you and Mig, I think I can speak for us all when I say that we appreciate it!


Don Cardi

SB,

I went out of town for the weekend and I tried several times to get ahold of my daughter but with no luck. I'll try again this week and ask her about Embassy Suites. But I can't guarantee I'll be able to get ahold of her. :rolleyes:

I was doing some thinking and I want to put out an idea.

Since TIS wants to stay in NYC for a few days and since me and Bec would like to visit NYC how about we have the '06 convention at this hotel: Hotel
This way TIS is close to the airport. BUT I want to see what Bec's co-worker can get for us in Philly before we make a decision.

Sorry, but, as I've said, I got better places to stay than Newark -- including my own bed.

I vote against Newark, whether we decide to go to NYC or Philly, or NJ for that matter. I'm sure we (locals) would all rather stay in our own homes than "vacation" in Newark, NJ....

Have we decided on Philly vs NYC yet? I thought we were going to Philly...?

I agree with JG, definitly NOT Newark.
Some of you would rather sleep in JG's bed than in Newark :p

Teach you to make fun of Trish :p

:p

Hmmmmm....Newark, where you can be rocked to sleep by the soothing sound of sporadic gunfire of yet another drive-by shooting.... Nope, I think I'd rather be in Philadelphia.

As far as Newark goes, there are a wider range of hotels at various prices in Secaucus, not to mention the fact that it's a lot closer to Manhattan.

In defense of MIG, let's realize that she is NOT as familiar with the area as some of you New Joisy people are. I think that her intent was to suggest a hotel outside of NYC in general. I don't know that she is busting to specifiaclly visit Newark.

She, along with TIS, probably doesn't realize that Philly is only about 90 miles from NYC, and that it would not be so hard for them to go to NYC before or after the weekend.

Mig, we all appreciate the time and effort that you are putting into this thing.


Don Cardi

I'm no expert on the East Coast, only being in NYC once, I at least have an idea, but when it comes to Newark, I don't know nutin' about nutin' :p I guess I depend on those on the East Coast to pick a good/safe area.

As far as where, I assume the choices are NYC/Philly, and last I checked Philly is in the lead. I'm glad to hear it's close to NYC.

Also, FWIW, I was able to "clear" my commitments and I should be able to make the weekend of 8/18 providing it's approved at work, which if put in early enough (say by the first of the year), shouldn't have a problem.

TIS

Our Godmother has spoken!


Don Cardi

There's still plenty of time for more suggestions, so if anyone has any other ideas as to where/when feel free to post them. Now's the time to let it all hang out. :p


TIS

I had to show up in Newark several years ago to be fingerprinted for my pending adoption...it was about a 20 minute drive from my home. To tell you the truth, the 'business' district really was not so bad, even bordering 'pleasant'. Same probably goes for the area near the airport where I think all the hotels under consideration would be.

As for Philadelphia/NYC...wonderful cities that they are there are definitely parts of it where the identical same thing could be said regarding 'drive-by' shootings, so I hope we don't continue stereotyping certain areas.

I still like the Secaucus idea put forth by plawrence...not that I'm voting or anything.

Apple

Apple,

If you would like to attend, I don't see why you shouldn't vote. The idea is to choose a location/time that's best for you. Nothing's written in stone yet.

I'm sure you're right that every city has the "undesirable" areas, which is why it's good to know people who know those areas. As long as I can go to NYC from wherever we end up, I'm open.

TIS

Actually TIS...between you & me only, I did vote. Ssshhhh!!!

And speaking of NYC again, there's a hotel called The Milburn on Upper West Side ... it's a very pleasant residential area not far at all from the 'touristy' part of Manhattan. Also right near the subway which can get you anywhere in very little time. I'd be happy to meet anyone who's not familiar with NY and head for a meeting spot.

Here's the Milburn link....

http://www.milburnhotel.com

Apple

Ok Newark is out. Pardon me for trying to make it conveinent for us :rolleyes: Like DC said not everybody lives in NY/NJ area.

Don't take offense Mig. It's strictly business, and nothing personal. As I said, I know that everone here really appreciates all the effort you are putting into this.


Don Cardi

Mig,
I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings. That definitely was NOT my intention. I didn't take into account that you're not from this area and would not be familiar with the, how shall I put this, high crime rate associated with the city of Newark.

Please, please accept my apology. Of course your efforts are appreciated.

I'm sorry, too, Mig - I should've used some smilies to convey a lighter tone than perhaps what came across in my post.

Mig,


I do appreciate (and thank you)for your help in finding a decent hotel and trying to get us better rates through your daughter's help. I can't be of any assistance giving my opinion on areas, but will assume every city has good/bad part, and am open to ideas.

I am assuming that those who live in/around the same city, would (understandably) like to travel a little distance, so as to have more of a get-away, rather then staying at a hotel in their own town.
Yet the few of us (or maybe I should just speak for myself )who are traveling a long distance for the most part, most likely would be happy in or around the Big Apple.

I don't mind any of the choices we voted on, so I'll go with the flow.

TIS

Certainly not for any perceived reasons of possible bad feelings but I've been thinking (a pox on the first clown with a smartass remark).

Its pretty apparent that TIS and Mignon want to have access to the City. Since they're travelling the farthest (by far) and they haven't spent much time in our town, maybe we should more seriously consider Secaucus.

Hell, most of us will be spending most of the time at the bar anyway.

Just a thought.

OK, bring it on.

(note to myself: bob and weave)

SC,

While it's true, I definitely want access to NYC, if Philly is decided, and I can arrange a way to NYC, that's not a problem for me. If Chicago was decided, I'd just stay a couple extra days there and not go to NYC this trip.
I'll have fun with you guys no matter where we are.

Of course notice I'm omitting Vegas/LA (for lack of interest)....we'll save that for next year. I'll get you out here yet. Even if I have to make an offer you can't refuse.

TIS

Thanks for the apologies guys. I'm sorry I should have known better than to take this personal. A great man told me once I need to develop thicker skin and I agree with this great man. Before the polls close with the winner of where this convention will be held, I want to see what Becky and her co-worker can come up with for us.

PS. Geoff thanks for the kiss. One back at ya

Pox on me then! I can smell the burnt wood as I write this. :p

SC, what you say makes a whole lot of sense. When you really think about it, TIS and MIG ARE the ones traveling the farthest and obviously are looking to make a vacation out of the trip, and understandably so. I know that if I were traveling out west to meet up with everyone, I would not be going for two days, but would also look to make a vacation out of my trip also.

When you really think about it, those of us who live here in the east can really make a trip to Philadelphia for a weekend anytime that we want, being that it's really not that far for us to travel to.

So in the spirit of both friendship and consideration, I think that we should reconsider and accomadate the desires and wishes of those who are traveling so far to spend time with us.

I have no problem with Secaucus either.


Don Cardi

Philly, Seacacus, whatever. It's all fine by me. Remember this, though, if TIS and Mig want to make the most of their time out East, then maybe Philly makes the MOST sense. This way they can start in Philly and end it in NYC. That would give them access to two famous Eastern cities in one trip. Just a thought.

However, I will go along with whatever everyone else wants.

If we do stay in the NY/NJ area, then there is a Hilton in NJ by the Meadowlands, 7 miles from the city: Hilton Hasbrouck Heights/Meadowlands that has an American cuisine restaurant, wireless internet access, and lounge. There is also a Hilton-owned Embassy Suites Hotel Seacucus-Meadowlands with similar amenities (steakhouse).

The only problem here, is that there's really nothing to do in this area except perhaps visit Plaw's house. On the other hand, the rates are probably half that of staying in Manhattan itself for the Hilton (Embassy is more) - even though staying in the city has many benefits, of course.

I was just going to link to the Hilton in Times Square, but that's over $400/night, and Doubletree is over $500/night! Jeez, even the Marriott Marquis is now over $400/night... beautiful hotel w/ a revolving rooftop restaurant I stayed in once for like $250

Hey, The Meadowlands Racetrack is right there!!!!


Don Cardi

Was that great man by some chance named Hyman Roth?

There' much you can learn from him....

Apple

The Milburn (on West 76th St, not far from Midtown) is about $180/night.

Just in case no one's checked the link yet.

I would guess that as long as the accomodations are clean and comfortable, many would rather spend their $$$ on whatever get-togethers are scheduled.

Apple

Well thanks for thinking of us so far away you guys.
Just a couple comments if I may.

Comment 1: I voted NYC, but I have nothing against Philly and last I looked it was in the lead in our voting poll. Would it be fair to change it? Wouldn't that be something like election "fraud"? Ha ha Just trying to be fair.

Comment 2: If Philly is decided, is there any reason we can't meet-up later in the week in NYC for those who can't make Philly, even if just for dinner/lunch or a day outing or whatever? Or would that be way too much togetherness. :p

Just more food for thought.

TIS

Well, if you do want to stay in Manhattan, my husband and I recently stayed for the first time at the Sheraton in midtown. It was fine. The rooms were clean, they did have high-speed internet access (but there is a charge) and the location was unbeatable. It's on the corner of 7th and 51st, so it's a very easy walk to 5th Avenue, Rockefeller Center, Radio City, St. Patrick's, etc. And the restaurants in that area are unbeatable. We paid only $199 for the night, which is great for midtown. Right now they are quoting $269 for the weekend of 8/18, but they do run specials. They have a romance package that includes breakfast for two that is only $249, they have a stay 3 nights and only pay for two. They have all different specials.

Hey, The Meadowlands Racetrack is right there!!!!


Don Cardi [/b][/quote]Can't the hotel be in Jersey and we take a train or bus or whatever to NYC and spend the day then go back to the hotel at night?

Hey I'm game for the race track DC I've never been to a race track. That might be fun as long as I don't have to see a horse drop dead. Assuming it's a horse track.

Hey, you hang around with SC and I long enough, and we'll teach you all the bad habits that are fun.

Don Cardi

I'm just saying that if you can stay in Manhattan for a few dollars more, say $30 or $40 per night, it would probably be worth it, and not have to deal with going back and forth. Jersey's fine, too. My point was just that if you guys are coming from far away and want to see NYC, don't let hotel rates stop you, since you may be able to find a good deal if you search hard enough.

Hey, you hang around with SC and I long enough, and we'll teach you all the bad habits that are fun.

Don Cardi [/b][/quote]I look forward to that. I would have went to the track over the summer but I just had to see the Corleone house.

As far as I'm concerned you guys can choose the hotel. I'm not fussy as long as it's clean and not outrageusly priced. You know both NYC area & Philly and I don't. I'm sure you'll find a good place. I'll go with whatever you decide.

Then, I'll just look on my own (I'm already browsing ) for a place to stay in the city after the convention.


TIS

Wherever we decide to go to I have a BIG favor to ask. When we go to dinner can we PLEASE find a place that has other foods besides seafood cuz I'm allergic to seafood. Many thanks in advance

First you want to pick the hotel. Then you want to pick the state. Then you want us to go on a certain date. And now you want to tell us what to eat?

What next, you gonna tell us what time we can stay up until? :p

What do you think, your our Mama?

Oh, I forgot, you ARE Mama Corleone!

How about some deli tongue then?


Don Cardi

Sounds good to me...not that I know how to find that place in Edison (still dreaming about the pastrami)!!!

Apple

First you want to pick the hotel. Then you want to pick the state. Then you want us to go on a certain date. And now you want to tell us what to eat?

What next, you gonna tell us what time we can stay up until? :p

What do you think, your our Mama?

Oh, I forgot, you ARE Mama Corleone!

How about some deli tongue then?


Don Cardi [/b][/quote]Hey as long as you don't have any confrontations(sp) with any head waiters then you can stay up as long as you want. :rolleyes: And yes tongue would be good right about now.

Ok Mama, I promise to control my famous sicilian temper. But make sure that you tell SB not to start any trouble either.




So have you heard anything back from Becky yet?


Don Cardi

Me? Whatever do you mean?

Ok Mama, I promise to control my famous sicilian temper. But make sure that you tell SB not to start any trouble either.




So have you heard anything back from Becky yet?


Don Cardi [/b][/quote]Well I talked to her last night and she hasn't heard anything yet about that hotel in Philly But she told me the other night at her softball game she got hit in the neck with the ball. My poor baby girl

It all depends on if the Chads were pushed out properly or not.


Don Cardi

It all depends on if the Chads were pushed out properly or not.


Don Cardi [/b][/quote]Who is Chad, and why are you promoting bodily harm on him?

And Don Cardi, There isn't going to be any trouble from me!! Cicci! A porta!!

Would that be in counting the votes, or in the restaurant? :p


Don Cardi

We went to Pennsylvania over the weekend and found a brochure for Eastern State Pennetentary (sp?) This is the prison that Capone was sent to, and they have his cell designed the way it was when he was there.

Just curious if anyone would be interested in that.

Yeah, I can just see you in one of those places.
You'd definitely be Bubba's bitch!


Don Cardi

But that's only because DMC is sooooo purty!

Thank you SB It took me many a Game Playing/Trish Viewing hour to become the magnificent specimen I am today.

Hey That sounds like fun. When I was in SanFran. over the Summer I wanted to go to Alcatraz but I didn't get a chance. Do they let you go in the cells? Where is this at in PA?

It's in Philadelphia, it looks like a Castle, it's no longer in use. They have a guided tour that goes through certain parts of it but I'm almost positive you are allowed to roam most anywhere.

Here's the website if anyone is interested:
http://www.easternstate.org/daytime.html

I visited Alcatraz Prison several years ago. A really interesting tour that I would recomend to anyone visiting the San Fran area. I went inside one of those solitary confinement cells, and when they shut the door, you couldn't see your hand in front of your face. I was in the dark for like 5 seconds, which felt like 30 minutes.

They showed us AL Capone's cell, Machine Gun Kelly's cell along with Robert Stroud, The Birdman Of Alcatraz's cell, who by the way really wasn't the Birdman of Alcatraz. He actully was the birdman of Leavenworth. But that title didn't sound good for the hollywood movie, so they changed it to The Birdman Of Alacatraz. He never had any birds while in Alcatraz.

http://www.alcatrazhistory.com/stroud.htm


Don Cardi

I'm almost sure that this prison was used in filming "Once Upon A Time In America."


Don Cardi

I talked to Becky last night and she told me that she would like to go to Philly for the convention then go to NYC for a couple days instead of spending all the time in the NJ/NY area.

So my question is : Is having the convention in Philly ok with all the people who are serious about attending?

I can definetly show you guys around King of Prussia too.

I'm almost sure that this prison was used in filming "Once Upon A Time In America."


Don Cardi [/b][/quote]Yeah, I recognize it too!

It's a year late, but thanks to JG, I can finally post my pics from the GBB Chicago convention from September 2004. It took me a year to develop and scan them.

Like I said to JG - I REALLY need to step into the digital age!

Here ya go!



Left Side (Front to Back): Don Sicilia, JG, La Dolce Vita, Don Cardi

Right Side (Front to Back): TIS, Lori, SC, Mikey Montana



LDV and the Fonz (Ayyyyyyeeee) :p



LDV and JG proudly wearing Scrubbies hats. LDV Thought Bubble - "Watch your hand there, Geoff." :p

Very cool pics, DB! DAMN that took you forever! And you only took three pictures? I like that last picture of LDV and JG, it's really cute.

Alcatraz... it's so gorgeous, isn't it? I love seeing it across the water. There's just something so cool and mysterious and beautiful about it. Hey, why don't we go to Frisco for the convention?! There's a thought... had it been suggested before? Probably. Anyway, if you guys fly, it's about 5 hours, and if TIS and I drive, it's 6-ish hours. So the distance isn't the same but the time can be. And if JG drives, he'll make it in... what, 2 hours?

Just thought I'd bump this thread up again. Anyone else that hasn't posted, thinking about going tot he "meet?"Ideas/thoughts/suggestions??

Still plenty of time to plan you guys.


Yes Zia, Alcatraz would be nice, but with some of our "shady" members, they might just keep them there. (I loved S.F.)

Didn't we agree that because you and Mignon were traveling so far that we would do something in New Jersey, right across from Manhatten?

That would be ok with me.


DS

Well I'm changing my mind. After a long disscussion with Becky she would like to have the convention in Philly then she wants me and her to spend a couple days in NYC. BTW she is till working on getting us a deal at that hotel I posted about before in Philly. Any objections??

Mig, We discussed so many hotels in Philly that I honestly can't remember anymore!! A true sign of old age and too much Halloween candy!! Which hotel was it?

Was this the place?


Don Cardi

SB,

I know how that old age thing is. My memory is fading fast. I think I need to take some Ginko I think it is a Hilton Garden Inn in the City Center somewhere.

Who agreed to that?

When?

HILTON GARDEN INN CENTER CITY PHILADELPHIA
http://www.hiltongardeninn.com/en/gi/hotels/index.jhtml?ctyhocn=PHLGIGI

August 18th - August 20th 2006
Rates Between $179 - $209 per night.

>>"There are no rooms available that meet your criteria. Please change your dates and try again, or select a different hotel from the list below:"<<


WYNDHAM PHILADELPHIA FRANKLIN PLAZA
http://www.wyndham.com/hotels/PHLFP/main.wnt

August 18th - August 20th 2006
Rates between $107 - $119 per night.

>>"Available"<<


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Don Cardi

Not bad folks, 474 post and you folks still don't have anything down firm yet.
Do you think it is time, that one person takes control and get the event started?
Oh hell, Rome wasn't built in a day.

Who agreed to that?

When? [/b][/quote]Nobody has agreed on anything yet

Why don't you take control then?


Don Cardi

HILTON GARDEN INN CENTER CITY PHILADELPHIA
http://www.hiltongardeninn.com/en/gi/hotels/index.jhtml?ctyhocn=PHLGIGI

August 18th - August 20th 2006
Rates Between $179 - $209 per night.

>>"There are no rooms available that meet your criteria. Please change your dates and try again, or select a different hotel from the list below:"<<


WYNDHAM PHILADELPHIA FRANKLIN PLAZA
http://www.wyndham.com/hotels/PHLFP/main.wnt

August 18th - August 20th 2006
Rates between $107 - $119 per night.

>>"Available"<<

DOUBLETREE HOTEL PHILADELPHIA
http://www.doubletree.com/en/dt/hotels/index.jhtml?moreDesc=true&ctyhocn=PHLBLDT

August 16th - August 20th 2006
Rates Between $199 - 308 per night

>>"Available"<<

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Don Cardi