Trump or Biden

For the american members of the forums:

For who do you have voted?

Trump

Even the race in PA is now narrowing. Also Nevada and North Carolina very close. Trump has to win Georgia which is also uncertain now.

Trump......hope it ends soon and doesn't drag on like the phoney Russia, Russia, Russia, hoax!

trump. we need rudy g involved because they are stealing the election from trump.

Trump!

Looking from Italy,Trump is losing the battle.

I voted for Trump. The left has managed to rig the election. This will go to the Supreme Court and Trump is not going anywhere. You disgusting liberals will not destroy my life!!!!!!!

Hopefully so. Michigan and Wisconsin votes have my antennas up (especially those overnight votes where you had over 100,000+ votes that came in ALL for Biden).

DJT!

They seem to have bribed officials in Georgia now that Biden has taken the lead in that state. These people are so evil. Liberal scum who wanna kill babies and legalize drugs and God knows what else they will do to the this great country of ours. Damn them to hell in Jesus name

I'm blown away that we're still counting ballots. The irony is that we had an unprecedented amount of early voting, yet we have to wait for all of these mail in ballots. They spent four years and unlimited resources trying to get rid of the man and all they did was prove that he might be one of the cleanest people out there. The fbi spent $100 million to finally shut down Gotti. The whacked out left spent four years trying to shut down TRUMP with no avail.

Not only is he one of the cleanest men out there, he's also one of the most selfless human beings God has ever produced. The things he has accomplished in just four years is nothing short of extraordinary. If God was a human, he'd be Donald Trump. Ugh I haven't slept one hour in the past 24 hours. I heard that Oregon has now legalized ALL hard drugs. Cocaine, meth, heroin, you name it. Our country is being destroyed by Godless scum

There is NO DOUBT that the Democrats rigged the election and cheated. They wanted mail in ballots for a reason: its easy to manipulate mail in ballots. You can also miraculously find a bunch of ballots in the 11th hour after you know how much your candidiate is losing by and then make up the difference with a bunch of ballots you mysteriously found or a bunch of late ballots that just happened to get delivered. Its fraud !
The democrats have people in especially minority communities where they pay them for their ballots. Its much harder to do if they have to vote in person.
They also commit fraud during the counting process, particularly in detroit, atlanta, las vegas, and other minority cities that reside in states with close races. Trump won as of midnight on election night until about 3 in the morning when all those extra ballots suddenly appeared.
Americans should be outraged ! I know I am. Trump won. You cannot decide an election based on mail in ballots. Had voting been done in person and Trump lost, we would be upset but we would accept it since it was fair.

Lastly. Facebook and Twitter censor posts that call out the democrats for cheating and they delete accounts. They also censor anything that is factual. Social media is part of the fraud.

Couldnt have said it better my friend. I am beyond outraged. They've now managed to use those phony ballots to push Biden over the edge in PA. Unbelievable. This is treason!!!

I didn't hear that about Oregon. Wtf. Here in Florida, they got their way with raising Kirkuk wage to $15/hr in increments by 2025. I had to go to school full time for a solid year, pass a state test, just to make $15.15/hr as an lpn. That job sucked. I'd rather be bagging groceries. Maybe this all goes back to our shitty education system. Instead of worrying about bullying, gender, and standardized testing, these kids need to learn economics at a young age as well as implementing trade schools. Four years of college without any plan is a waste of time and unnecessary debt. At least I can still raise my kids right without interference.

Minimum nut Kirkuk.

Agree. Instead of teaching a 14 year old about why some kid who used to take a piss in a boys bathroom can now suddenly use a girls bathroom which is child abuse in my view, how about teaching a 14 year old about the laws of supply and demand ! Or how interest on a loan works?
My father was very politically correct when he taught me how to deal with a bully. He said, punch the bully in the nose as hard as you can. Anyone else have a politically correct father like mine ?

A scary thought. Kamala Harris in the White House . Thats fuckin scary.

Damn, there's a lot of angry snowflakes in here. Looks like it's just about over for Trump.

There was going to be peace in the Middle East between Arabs and Israel and where would it be now, when Biden yet again pays mullahs in Iran? We can't get a break it seems. Congratulations to big pharma, weapon manufacturers and bankers that lend money to both sides of wars.

Joe Biden. Enjoying Trumpers losing their minds. The Republicans got a lot more African American ls and Latinos on their side this election. While a lot of 3rd party and independent voters threw in for Joe Biden. When your anger subsides, think that one over and look at the areas. The biggest surprise is Georgia, I figured Biden would get more votes than the past Democrat presidents, and Trump would win that state, but it looks like Biden will get.

Even if he loses the Trump family is not going anywhere Trump Jr maybe in 2024.

You heard right. Democrat policies! And by the way, the day after the election, governor of Oregon finally called upon the National Guard to assist with putting down the looting, rioting, destruction, etc. Seem convenient to anyone else the timing of it all? 🤔

Overnight in both Michigan and Wisconsin, Biden gets over 100,000 votes while Trump gets none. Nothing fishy going on there. Not to mention the amount of people between the ages of 100-120 who "voted for Biden." One of his so called voters actually died in 1984! Forgot what state it was in (maybe Pennsylvania) but it was definitely a swing state.

Not to mention, the left claimed for 4 years that Trump stole the election in 2016 and "Russian interference." Now they're saying the election can't be rigged. Get out of my face with your lies!

Fucked up

And THAT'S what keeps me up at night. I can't stand her and if Biden does win, they're gonna hit us with the ol' bait-and-switch, mark my words!

I'm for Candace Owens personally.

Both parties need young leaders these 2 guys are fucking old.

I am pro trump

As an outsider I do think it's nice to see an Irishman in the White House the first since Kennedy. He is also a man of the middle.

I like her too, she checks every box. On another note, Michigan seems to be in play again, they blame the "problem" on software glitches.

I don't think that is going to happen. Biden has been busy or at least his close aides confidants have. They are not waiting for the official word and already are meeting with members close to state Governors, Congress members not just for the Democratic party either. I agree Kamala Harris is a scary being on to herself, and I have that fear that she will try to slip in some police state tactics if she can. After 4 years of Trump, I would rather have an actual caring Grandfather.
Hollander both parties have young members in their ranks, and many of the best ones in each party refuse to run for president at their stage of live, but may run in a decade or two. Who knows.

Joe Biden is a man of the middle? Do us a favor and keep your opinions to yourself

Software glitches lol. I can't wait to see these people in cuffs. Trump isn't going anywhere

Yeah, I forgot to put quotation around software glitches too.

Last night Biden spoke and one of the first things he mentioned was “ systemic racism”. Total bullshit. I guess Biden will be raising our taxes so entitled people get more free stuff.

They're giving it to Biden. Trump must fight!! Even Fox News has betrayed him

This is a devastating blow to all of humanity

A media coup. 2020 is not done yet.

I've literally got tears streaming down my face. I haven't cried in 17 years or since my mother died. TRUMP MUST FIGHT!!!!! THESE PEOPLE ARE SO EVIL

I'm so very sorry, but keep faith. He is nothing if not a fighter. Media can't declare winner. If they were to do their job right, they should be all over that "software glitch." But they serve their overlords.

Thank you brother. What I don't get though is why Fox News is throwing in the towel. Talk about betrayal. All these media people are lowlifes

They make different flavors for different tastes, only to control you on such a day. Fox is just like the rest of them. Don't be fooled by their facade.

What disgusts me is IMO, I don't think Biden is fit for office personally and that's not a knock at him. I think he honestly is suffering from some early stages of dementia/alzheimers or something in that ballpark. Remember when Trump got elected and people called his health into question (which was a bogus claim to begin with and it was proven so)? But I honestly do have concerns about Joe (another reason for the bait-and-switch). I was upset at the Republicans for attacking Joe on this point but I was even more upset at the Democrats for parading him out, seeing him in that condition. I've had a few people very close to me in my life suffer and die from the disease, so I recognize the signs. It's not all the time with Joe, that's why again, I believe it's in his early stages.

Also, for all the leftists claiming victory, claim down. This is going to the courts. There's too much documented proof of voter fraud for this not to proceed. The courts will decide it. Just another reason why we need voter ID laws in this country and I was against mail-in balloting as well (I voted in person BTW).

Yup, hit the nail right on the head.

This needs to be said Loud and Clear . 71 Million Americans voted for Trump and witnessed the biggest fraud in American Politics. However, there wasnt one riot or any violence whatsoever. Can you imagine what the left would be doing if Biden lost!
Biden won and the Left is still trying to riot in NYC and Philly. Republicans need to toughen up and start protecting their communities and values.
If one more Republican says “ we’re above that”, im going to be sick ! Fight fire with fire.

Wouldn't be something if there was a voter fraud claim that has merit and it turned out that those votes were casted for Trump.

Very unlikely the voter fraud be for electing Trump, since his votes were cast in person and they didn't give him a single mailed-in ballot, saying he suggested his base to vote in person. Plus, a republican congressman in Michigan was elected after that county flipped from 67-32 for Biden to 56-42 for Trump. 71 million in person voting for a sitting president is something really. It shows that many people in the US didn't listen to the biased media which is heart warming for me. Globalist's message is clear though, there is no room in their agenda for a leader who puts his country's interests first and does not play according to their rules. If it comes to that, they unleash a deadly virus, killing millions, make people vote by mail and steal an election. Then Germany suggests for Trump just to role over and accept the defeat with China gleefully watching. They had long plans for the US and the world, they've sown the seeds of hatred among people, and even if people now stand up to this sham of election, it would be the chaos that they planned for the US all along.

European elites have popped up some bottles of champagne, this is a big relief because many countries here face a similar rise of national populism.

...and the disappointed TRUMP voter goes to work on Monday and waits four years until the next election. Democrats should take note. No riots, no cry parties, you just suck it up and move forward. The last four years were disgusting and showed how corrupt and disenfranchised the left are. A non politician came in and despite the hurdles put in front of him, he accomplished more in four years than most have in their entire careers. One may argue that TRUMP didn't behave or speak like a president. Well, Obama was very well spoken and was "presidential" to the public. That's nice and all, but what what did he accomplish in eight years? Trump doesn't need money, the guy isn't going away.

If he stays healty Trump will probably run again in 2024 he has changed the GOP forever.

My prediction. Trump starts a company that rivals facebook or starts his own cable news station.

Is it over for trump ?
Or there is a real chance he might be the president ?

It is over, the only way for Trump to win is if he goes full blown dictator. Many current and former public officials anticipated such an event might happen, even after Florida in the 2000 election, that measures were put in place as time went on in the new millennium, even two years before this election when problems a raised in votes being counted, they fixed it and so far none of the issues surfaced. That doesn't mean there were no issues during this elections, just means no issues that have merit has come to light. Trump has cases depending and on ongoing in states, but he does not have a pot to piss in, and regardless of those outcomes they will not have any bearing on the results of this election. Trump is still the president for the next couple of month and in that time he could wreck havoc on the economy. That is something that fits his character, he does not care for anyone except his own ego which has been hurt badly with the results of this election.
When he is out of office officially dont be surprised if the next day or two he is put in handcuffs. His supporters will call foul, but hey a lot of charges were not brought against him while he was president, but with him not in office, he is going to have the best seat in the house on Bubba Rays lap.

Why would he be put in handcuffs? For what exactly? This man has given his life for your well being. Donald Trump is Jesus Christ as far as I'm concerned. I will NEVER understand why people dislike him. All he did was tell the truth and make America greater than it has ever been. Because of Donald Trump's tireless efforts, no country comes close to us .

He has to fight, but I can't say I'm very hopeful at this point

Ugh I've been sober for 8 years and now been boozing and doing blow since Fox called the election. Even had prostitutes over. Haven't felt this low since forever

That's not in their character. When they don't get their way, they throw temper tantrums and burn, loot, riot.



One of the many reasons I love Trump: he's not PC, he speaks and his mind and is brash. I'd rather that then someone who whispers sweet nothings into my ear. And like you said, Trump did more in 4 years that actually helps Americans than Obama did in 8.

I wouldn't count him out just yet because I'm not. I wouldn't be surprised if this goes all the way to the Supreme Court. I don't think Trump is just going to roll over and take it, he's going to fight (which he should because there's too much evidence of voter fraud for him not to follow it up).

Jo Jorgensen would have been my typical vote but she supports a Marxists organization. I couldnt vote for someone who's career put people of color in prison. I'm not pro Trump but he had my vote.


I will say this:

I voted R for the first time, my Noni (who practically raised me) is spinning her grave. She turned 100 this September passed away before the election, unfortunately she wasnt able to vote for Biden who would have been her candidate. An educated women ahead of her time (a WWII nurse, nursing teacher, taught English as a second language, took college courses until 85) she refused to vote for her own son because he was a Republican 🤣

Most of my friends voted Trump but not all of em are pro trump either. One friend voted Biden because he thinks hes got more chance of getting free healthcare for his mom who is dying of cancer lol

I totally agree. I think those of us who love him the most appreciate him because he talks like most blue collar people talk. It doesn't matter if he lies a little bit. What matters is the big picture and the big picture is all true. That's why I say he's the most honest leader we've had in a very long time

Obama didn't do shit for us lol. I got nothing against him. I'm sure he's a nice guy, but he had no business being president

Biden already said that if given the win the first thing he will do is reverse the Paris accord and start shipping our jobs and money over seas.

He should move there.

imo without trump you guys in the us will now have very hard time now
be strong !! and good luck !!! let's hope trump (if he will want of course) will be the next president after biden 4 years in his job

Without Covid Trump would have won a second term, because the economy was doing great untill the pandemic.

Thank you for the support brother. He will return in 2024 and hopefully we can make him president for life then

Trump got a record number of votes from the Black and Hispanic communities. Plenty of votes from Asian and Pacific Islander communities as well. Usually the Dems need almost all of those votes to be able to win the election. I don't understand how Biden won. The numbers just don't add up. I know there was a record voting turnout from snotty freshman college brats who thanks to media indoctrination and unfounded demonization would've done anything to get Trump out of office, but still...something's rotten in the state of Denmark.

I shouldn't have a horse in this race - being from Europe and all - but if I were an American, my vote would've gone to Trump.

That's why they closed us down, because history has shown here in the States that a President, with a booming economy, typically wins re-election. I said it since Day 1 that they were going to attack the stock market.

In some areas, there were more votes made than there were number of residents to make them 🤔 The more evidence that comes out, the more I think Trump has a good shot and getting it overturned. Remember, the crooked media are the one's who've called Joe Biden President and, they don't count when it comes to who actually won the race!

Ballot harvesting was rampant especially in inner cities. Many of those ballots had no signature.
What also happened was vote counters would fill in the dot for Biden when it was meant for Trump. Vote counters are not allowed to mark ballots, totally illegal. The machine would then cancel the ballot out and even though the vote was given to Biden, it took away a legit Trump vote. When the machine see’s both circles marked, it voids the ballot.

one plus is trump has rudy on point. they found problems with the software switching votes from trump to bide. observers were tossed out of the room. one place that had a water pipe break they kept counting even after sending the observers home. can't see how biden won PA since he is against fracking.

It's all just baffling to me. All the lawsuits have been thrown out though. Not sure if this is all some major conspiracy or Biden actual won fair and square LOL

So many people seem to hate Trump. I will never understand it.

i seem to notice that it's so popular for celebrities to hate him
weird
i think he is amazing president !
too bad biden was chosen
let's hope trump will win the 2024 election

The media and indoctrination

He can do it!!! I hope he starts his news company as well. I hope he only has white people presenting the news. That will anger the liberal scums.

I just got myself a Trump neck tattooo

I just think we need more thinkers. The world has gotten so stupid. The good thing about Trump is that he appeals to your common sense at all times. Speaks the language of the working man. He doesn't judge you for talking shit about gays or saying the n word when it's warranted

But that's the problem ralphie, too many people nowadays are stupid and allow the media to do the thinking for them. They determine what's "news worthy" and what's not. Then, they determine how to frame the narrative and tell you how to feel about it. People are so gullible and indoctrinated that they'll believe anything as long as the premise is "orange man bad."

I agree with you %100 percent. And it doesn't matter what side of the fence your on. Also how can you tell whats a setup, whats scripted, and whats real anymore. Any 2 people can get together and conspire to make a video with someone being racist for example and post it up on Youtube to further their cause and then if it goes "viral" the big media outlets report on it. We are in an information war weather we realize it and weather we like it or not. People out there dont understand that and they're being used..

Spot on

As the comments in this post make abundantly clear Trump's base of white supremacists can't deal with the fact that he lost. But that's too bad for the racist snowflakes. As they told everyone else in 2016 I tell them fuck their feelings.

The Justice Department, the Department of Homeland Security, the CyberSecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, and the Federal Bureau of Investigation. Four agencies run by Trump appointees have all publicly said that there's no evidence of election fraud.

Lawsuit after lawsuit has been thrown out of court after court because of lack of evidence. Other courts, including the Supreme Court, have refused to hear cases because of lack of evidence AND lack of standing. Unfortunately the mouth breathing cousin fucker brigade can't accept that millions of Americans voted against their beloved orange fuhrer. That's why some of them, like the oleaginous Michael Flynn, have called for Trump to declare martial law and shut down media conservatives don't like.

Trump's supporters don't believe in free and fair elections. The election doesn't count unless we win is not a healthy or frankly American point of view. It's fascist. But it's what I've come to expect from Republicans.

So about this Texas lawsuit to overturn the 2020 election...
First and foremost, it is important to note that the Texas Attorney General, Ken Paxton, has been under federal indictment on securities fraud since 2015 so this might be a Hail Mary pass to the President for one of those good old presidential pardons before Trump leaves office.

But setting that aside, you might be wondering how can Texas sue another state about how the other state conducted its own election? Let's break this down.
First, states can and do sue each other all the time and while the Constitution allows the Supreme Court to hear those lawsuits directly, it does so rarely. Typically the Court only hears cases where states are arguing about the state regulations of one state that have a negative impact on the natural resources of a neighboring state. Moreover, the Supreme Court has been clear that

"in a suit by a state to prevent other states from enforcing their statutes, the burden upon the plaintiff to establish fully and clearly all essential elements of its case is greater than that generally required to be borne by one seeking an injunction in a suit between private parties" and "application by a state for leave to file a bill to enjoin other states from enforcing their laws will not be granted unless the facts alleged are clearly sufficient to call for a decree in its favor and the threatened injury is clearly shown to be serious and imminent."
Alabama v. Arizona, 281 US 286 (1934).

In plain English, the burden for the Supreme Court to even agree to hear a lawsuit between states is super high. Meaning, if a state has not made its case in the complaint, the Supreme Court will not even bother to take the case. And unfortunately for Texas, it has long been established that states run their own elections. Unless there was legitimate evidence of fraud orchestrated on a nationwide scale, it's highly doubtful the Supreme Court entertains this lawsuit.
Speaking of fraud, Attorney General Paxton was very careful not to allege fraud in this case. The word "fraud" appears 33 times in the 154-page lawsuit, but it's always carefully mentioned in a way that never claims that fraud took place. Instead it says things like "urban areas" (aka Black people) have a "histor[y] of electoral fraud." At one point in the complaint, Paxton flat out admits that no fraud has been found:

"While investigations into allegations of unlawful votes being counted and fraud continue, even the appearance of fraud in a close election would justify exercising the Court’s discretion to grant the motion for leave to file. Regardless, Defendant States’ violations of the Constitution would warrant this Court’s review, even if no election fraud had resulted."

Even if no election fraud had resulted??? Are you kidding me? Invalidate millions of votes, and down ballot races where Republicans won by the way, all on a "hunch" that fraud *might* have occurred where Black people live?
Nice try.
Bottom line here, the Supreme Court will likely hold that Texas has no standing to bring this suit. And if the Court does hear this case, it will only be to set the record straight that Texas has no authority to invalidate an entire presidential election.

GOP Delegate and Giuliani witness: All Chinese people look alike.

Trump lost in Wisconsin. His team paid $3 million to do a recount and then lost by a greater margin.

^^^^ That's right buddy. We're all a bunch of racists. The way I look at all of this, is that TRUMP endured all of the comical nonsense that the left threw at him. People like yourself probably bought into it. None of it stuck. Possibly making ol TRUMP one of the cleanest politicians out there. If he wants to drag this shit through the courts for a couple of months, let him. He's not spending our money like your people did for the last four years. He kept all of his promises. Hopefully B/H 2021 do the right thing. The problem with the left is that they forget we're all AMERICANS. We're on the same team. At the end of the last four years, they've embarrassed us on the world stage. If I was a democrat I would be beside myself and question the legitimacy of my party. Not once, but two elections in a row, Bernie Sanders has been snubbed by a candidate who didn't deserve the party nomination. My guy lost, I suck it up and go to work the next day. Their nominee loses, it's the end of the world. The horrible things the left say about TRUMP. Yet they believe in releasing murderers, rapists, and other criminals becausE it's inhumane to imprison humans in the manner which they are. Something ain't right with the left. Pun intended. Why bother planting a money tree when you can go take from someone else's? That's the direction we're heading. Until then GOD BLESS AMERICA!

This is what happens when Drumpfen actually attempt to prove anything. A diaper full of crap. When you have left reality behind it's difficult to operate within its strictures.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/...tE002c9-QE6nwXgrvIL6SSJ3zIB4OwJjBydPLKAs

I didn't say ALL of you were a bunch of racists. But many Trump voters clearly are. Own it.
A sizable proportion of Trump voters are clearly unable to process his loss. Thus the threats, the racist insults, the appeals to violence. The Arizona Republican Party is asking Republicans if they are willing to sacrifice their lives to overturn the election.
https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/die-for-something-arizona-gop-incites-violence-11518730
This is not normal behavior. But it is becoming expected from Republicans.

The right doesn't think we're all Americans.

You are evil if you think what's going on is okay. Trump won the election by at least 25 million votes according to some experts on voter fraud. And I am not racist sir. I dislike thugs and people who leech off society.

I agree 1000% with most of that but Bernie is even worse than Biden though. The left is scum. Not human to me. We must fight for the white land and save America from these thugs

I thought we were done with threads like this one

Trump lost. He is a sore loser. Just like his cult of followers. Deal with it.

And cut out the racist comments, ralphie. There's no place for that here.

Lilo & XDCX, I agree with blueracing347. I voted for Trump and I'm not a racist either. For supporting a party who hates labels with such a furious passion, you certainly seem to pass them out at every opportunity you get. Just because I voted for someone you didn't doesn't automatically make me, him, or any of us a racist. Maybe we just like some of his policies. Maybe, we appreciate a President who has the balls to stand up to the other powers of this world (i.e. China, Russia) and not bow down to them. There's nothing to own here. Please put down the CNN Kool-Aid. I've always respected your reviews and your opinions on this board but you're way out of line with these statements. As for the results, I didn't think Trump had a shot to overturn them. If the election was legitimate and he lost, then the people have spoken, and I'll look forward to 2024. But, please don't be these hypocrites on the left who've done nothing but attempt to railroad President Trump for the last 4 years and are now preaching peace. Ain't happening. Biden can have his seat at the table and we'll see what happens in 2024. The Democratic party is in such shambles between the old guard (Pelosi, Biden, Shumer, etc). vs the radicals (AOC, Bernie, etc) that it'll make for good, entertainment, watching them all implode until then.

So now we have to defend ourselves that we are not racists, homophobic, or sexist? Or we have to apologize for some people in the party? Do democrats apologize for the looting and burning and inciting violence? Anyway, I know in my gut this election was fraudulent. We were watching. Some states said they were stopping counting and then they counted after hours. Trump got more votes than Obama ever did and now I'm supposed to think that Biden even got more. No honey, I've taken the red pill and I can never go back trusting this corrupt DNC. I'm done with them, and sorry to have defended them before.

Just because someone marvels at the beauty of the white race does not mean that person is racist. If black people can say they're proud to be black (something I have no problem with) then I should be able to say I'm proud to be white. You need to learn tolerance.

Glad you left them. You belong to a greater and much more powerful brotherhood now. We walk a higher path son.

I'm a gal from 8000 miles away who doesn't get a vote in this election, but whose life is going to turn for worse with another of these establishment guys. To be honest, I'm not much fond of most of GOP either, without their corruption, this fraud would not be possible. We've been miserable for 42 years out here, and now I realize why. Only when Trump came to power I realized there never was a will in the US to change things out here, and how easy is for the US to do so without firing a single bullet. Alas, establishment wants the ME to be the way it is.

Hey, Marco - We're done with political threads being posted willy-nilly all over the place, with the sole purpose of stirring up crap. During an election year, we figured that having one thread where people can (hopefully maturely) discuss the issues with minimal b.s. may work. Having just one thread makes it very easy to pass over/ignore.

Personally, I avoid all political discussions/posts/threads on ALL social media because the 'conversations' go nowhere but in circles, and have never changed anyone's mind or convinced someone that they were wrong. When's the last time anyone said, "you know what, you're right... I was wrong believing what I believed!"

Best bet is for people to avoid threads that they're uncomfortable with. And never feed the trolls!

Okay...let's look at a previous post you made, ralphie:



Tell me ralphie, when is it warranted for a white man to say the "n" word? I am genuinely curious.

I understand - but there is a difference between political discussion and outright racism. That line has been crossed.

Yes, because the left and MSM attempt to shame, cancel, ridicule, and destroy anyone who doesn't agree with their radical, communist agendas. I know who I am, so I could care less what people on the other side of the aisle want to call me. That's their only argument when they have nothing else is to call someone a racist. It's quite pathetic honestly.



Of course not because there is no looting going around. Just ask Democrat Jerry Nadler.

"It's a myth"

Hey XDC, long time! My friend, can I play the devil's advocate here? On top of my mind a period drama perhaps? Also a question, is it okay for an African American to say this word? And why do you discriminate based on color? Anyway, I don't know why someone should say it, it's hateful. It brings about discord and animosity between people. Can I ask both of you to take an hour of your time to watch something? And then ask you to put aside these discussions that benefit no one? It's an agenda to make a problem out of nothing, make conflicts and then ruin a nation. Don't play into their agenda. Tolerate, stick to the 1st amendment and stick to what's important. You've got a great country. Don't let them ruin it.

I don't recall saying or implying that you are racist, Irish. You've neither said nor done anything to ever make me make that assumption. I do believe ralphie is racist based on his previous posts.

Could there have been fraud? Sure there could have been. But the burden of proof lies with the accuser. And thus far, there has been no proof or evidence of any widespread voter fraud. None. Whatsoever.

I have no party affiliation. I am disgusted by both the DNC and the GOP, and therefore refuse to affiliate myself with either party.

But regarding racism and Trump supporters: do I believe that all Trump supporters are racist? Of course not. Do I think that racists are drawn to Trump's hate-filled rhetoric? Yes i do. Because there can be no mistake about it, Donald Trump is a racist, bigoted, egotistical, self-centered, just all around sorry excuse of a human being. And I predict he will go down in history as one of the worst presidents in the history of this nation. But I will also concede that his legacy will probably be based more on his personality than anything he actually accomplished while in office. Which wasn't very much anyway.

Sorry, I rambled a bit. I respect your views, even if I don't agree with them.

Okay, again, I've to ask, as you say, the burden of proof falls on the accuser. How is Trump racist? Because media tells you nonstop?

This is what media doesn't show you:
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1311399839964434432/pu/vid/480x270/xnM7ENdUyE76ZkU1.mp4?tag=10
And this:
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1311358890777473029/pu/vid/480x270/DjgqSAR70oae1lq7.mp4?tag=10

And he has plenty of legacy that media doesn't tell you. Like peace in the Middle East. Something Kerry said wouldn't happen until you solve Israeli-Palestanian conflict. This is just sad.

It's warranted when a black man rapes your wife. It's warranted when a black man calls you a cracker or when he mean mugs you for no reason. It doesn't mean you hate all black people. I used to have a good friend who was black. Later he turned out to be a thief of course and he's no longer part of my life.



Are you serious? If I was racist, I would hate an entire race. I would not be following Candace Owens on Instagram or watch Denzel movies.

What if a white man rapes your wife? You gonna call him the "n" word?

Beautiful post. Trump has done more good than all of the US Presidents combined. To me, he is the second coming of Jesus Christ. I know those are very big words, but what this man has done for the country and the world could never be repaid. He saved my stepson's life. Because of Trump's healthcare policies, he was able to get the medication he needed.

This is Kerry back in 2016? Anyway, If media was fair and balanced, at least one debate and one question would be about foreign affairs, where Trump really trumped, or if that phony Nobel Peace Prize meant anything, he should have gotten one. UAE, Kuwait, Bahrain, Sudan, Morocco now all recognize Israel and started relationship with Israel. Who was able to even imagine this before Trump?

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Why would I call a white man the n word?

Ralphie is clearly a troll. Just read his posts here, posting about fake tattoos and trying to incite people.. I mean, look at his avatar. Clearly a troll.

Edit: Ralphie's avatar at the time was of Adolf Eichmann, the high-ranking Nazi. As trolls do, he changed it immediately after I called him out.

I'm not trying to incite anyone. People have different opinions. I didn't post about fake tattoos. It's not a picture of me but its my tattoo

Sure, Adolf.. I'm not interested in a conversation just wanted to point out the obvious.

X and Lilo, nice to have some sanity here.

If Ralphie is such a good Christian man who adores Donald Trump, why would you refer to him as Jesus Christ? What's the first commandment? That you cannot honor false gods. How does a man with five children from three different wives, who pays off porn stars, how does he appeal to Evangelicals? I'm not saying he's the only man who has ever cheated, or the only one who has ever done it in the White House. There is plenty of proof to the contrary. But how does he appeal to the conservatives with a past like that??

How do you equate a good man with one who openly mocks the disabled? Whose family is forbidden from participating in charities because they stole from children with cancer and veterans? Who mocked President Obama for playing golf, saying he would be too busy as president, yet has literally played a year's worth of days? And on top of that, plays at his own clubs so that the secret service and his staff pay Trump properties for thousands of your tax dollars, millions over the last four years? Who, after years, still won't release his tax returns? Who started the racist birther rumors about President Obama? You think he did well on the economy? Look at the national debt!! It has skyrocketed under his administration! Don't confuse the economy and the Dow. They are two different things. And what kind of father is he? He's completely inappropriate about Ivanka, in the most nauseating and creepy way possible. What kind of man gets invited to throw out the first ball and doesn't bring his teenage son with him? Are there any photos of him with Barron, aside from getting on and off a plane or helicopter? He's the only Trump I feel bad for. He's a narcissist in the very worst way, perhaps even a sociopath.

And don't even get me started on the First Lady. She entered this country on an Einstein visa, an amazing feat since she dropped out of college. She supposedly speaks several languages, but always needs and uses an interpreter on visits with foreign dignitaries (the president of France and the pope, when she's supposed to be fluent in both French and Italian, for example). Plus the fact that none of her initiatives get past their press conference. She did manage to destroy the Rose Garden. And is she so tone deaf that at a time when millions of Americans are sick, dying, unemployed and on the brink of homelessness, that she touted opening the tennis pavilion?? And let's not forget that this classy gold digger did soft core porn modeling. What a role model! Also, spent millions of taxpayer dollars to stay in NYC at the beginning of his term to renegotiate her prenup.

And do you think he really gives two turds about this election? It's all a money grab. Any donation to his election defense fund that is under $8,000 doesn't even go to that fund. It goes to his PAC, which gives him very liberal use of the money, and to the RNC. When it comes to this man and his actions, always follow the money trail. He's fleecing people who can't afford it.

Why would you call ANYONE the n word? That's the real question. And the answer is you're racist. Just own it.

Is a black man who uses the word 'cracker' racist? Why can black people use the n word but not whites? I've never been racist in my life. I once performed CPR on a little black girl. Yeah so racist

We're trying very hard to keep this thread open. Let's keep race out of this starting right now!

So we are insane for wanting peace in the Middle East and not having president of the US paying mullahs and enable them to kill hundred thousands and displacing people in the Middle East. I guess his personal life whatever it is, is more important than our lives. Not that they found a single thing on his children, not even one drunken party. And yet he has been an awful father somehow. Be happy now. Business as usual is on the way. Biden never touched any woman, was never inappropriate, and always was nice to reporters. Never had picture with KKK, and is squeaky clean, nothing to see, all he has including his mansion was on government salary. Looking forward to Kerry with having multiple houses and a private jet telling the world to take a bus to reduce carbon footprint. No need to follow the money trail there!

The real question isn't "why can't you?" The real question is why would you want to?

We're slowly losing our rights in this country unfortunately afsaneh in the name of "progressivism." That's why so many of us on the right are fighting so vehemently against the lose of our rights, all the while being accused of being racist, sexist, etc.

My apologies, I misquoted you: you did not accuse me of being a racist but a cult follower simply because I voted for and support Trump. I'm not a cult follower. I was never political before 2016 and I've bit my tongue for the past 3 years while I've had friends, the media, and the left do nothing but railroad this President. I know that by engaging in these conversations, I'm not changing anyone's mind (please note, you're not changing mine either). But I have found my voice, I will speak up, and I will support my President. In saying that, don't get it twisted and believe what the media would have you believe: that if you voted for Donald Trump you automatically agree with every single word that comes out of his mouth, every piece of legislation that has come across his desk, every policy he's enforced, etc. No, I'm a free thinker and I believe Trump was a better President than Hillary would have been (or Biden for that matter). But I can call him out just the same and not agree with everything the man says. And I'm glad you said not all Trump supporters are racist because we aren't. Yes, racists are attracted to him. Do I wish he was more outspoken about that? Of course, nobody likes racist! But also please keep in mind, I didn't vote for Trump because he's a "nice guy." This isn't a popularity contest. I want someone who will do the job, put the American people first, stand up to our enemies, and make this country great again. In his 4 years in office, with the amount of lies, deceits, distractions, media interference, all things considered: I think he did a great job and as of now, is probably the best President during my lifetime. I respect your views as well as I've always said, everyone has a right to their opinion. Mine's no more right than yours and vice versa.

Don't forget, he told the American people to inject themselves with bleach

Don't forget about Ukraine. When the left tried to tie Trump to them, that quickly went away once it was found the Biden's had more ties with them than Trump did. Then the media has the audacity to lie and say Hunter Biden's laptop is "Russian disinformation!" How anybody can believe this crap is beyond me!

That's the strategy they used in our country that led to 1979 revolution. They called Shah a blood thirsty dictator, but did they report how many were killed last November? Were we anywhere in the media coverage? Likes of Barbra Walters and Oriana Fallaci were grilling Shah if he thought women were equal to men, never grilled Ayatollah with the same questions, don't mind that Shah was the one giving women the right to vote, his father before him freed women from Hijab and they were called sexist by the media who is keeping quiet now that we are in this mess. Talk about bringing back Pahlavi dynasty and they are sure to scream no, dictatorship! I hope they never get to do to the US what they did to us, 75 million people didn't care what media says and that's something.

The left doesn't even mention Russiagate anymore. Haha not a word about it. Why people still believe the fake news media is unbelievable to me. And I'm not saying Trump never lies. All good men lie, but at least he's an honest liar.

That is my biggest problem with the media: there is NO accountability. They print/report whatever they want to with impunity. Unfortunately, so many people buy into their garbage agenda and take it as gospel because "the TV told me so." Things are bad here and IMO, the media is the main culprit.

It's because "orange man bad." Well, the electoral college votes are in and unfortunately, Joe Biden will be our next President. So now they don't have the dead horse/Trump to kick anymore. Let's see what kinda puff pieces, softball questions, and "camelot" they can trick us into thinking we're in during these next 4 years. I pray Trump runs again in 2024 because he'd get my vote for a third time!

They are accountable alright, to their overlords; Just not to us. It's frightening when people repeat their talking points. "There is not evidence of widespread fraud." Well, first of all who said widespread? More like calculated and precise at the places with no accountability. If you refuse to look, you wont find any. "A nation can't solve what the press wont let it perceive." Congrats to all new slaves of CCP.

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It was a fair election with a fair result. Trump lost, the Trump experiment is now, and will forever be, over. It is amazing to me how 70 million+ people could be so easily duped by a billionaire conman who couldn't give a 2 shilling shit about anybody but himself. He's done. Get over it.

Well, Kamala Harris disagrees with you, why else has she not resigned from the Senate yet? Even she doesn't believe that dementia ridden Biden would get 81 million votes, beating Obama who didn't manage to match his own record 4 years later. I would never get over this. To me a Biden administration would be a bad joke and a failure for democracy, quite frankly everywhere, not just the US.

No offense but this is a very weak argument. Do you know the history of other Vice Presidents and when they left the positions they held prior to becoming VP? Dan Quayle, the VP under Bush Sr didn't leave the Senate until Jan 1989. Four years later Al Gore did the same thing when he was VP for Clinton. Were both of those elections stolen as well? Those are two bipartisan examples but if you choose to look into it just a little bit you will find many more.

He said Trump is done. That was meant to tell him if he was, she would've resigned. And you ignore the part that Biden suddenly mustered up 81 million votes. The past three elections, roughly around 130 million people had voted. It's an anomaly where Trump gets even more votes than his first term and suddenly 155.5 million people have voted. 25 million people over usual numbers of these past 3 elections.

When Bush Sr won, even though there was no thought of election fraud, Dan Quayle didn't resign. When Clinton won, the election also was not in question, but Al Gore didn't resign until January either. What is different now? You are trying to make it seem like a peculiar, suspicious choice when I am showing you facts dating back SEVERAL elections, among both parties, that her resigning sooner would actually be the anomaly, not her staying in her Senate seat. You say I'm ignoring the point about the amount of voters, but you are ignoring hard evidence that immediately discredits your claims.

This was the biggest turnout in election history because people on both sides all felt extremely strongly about it. But we can leave the question of election fraud to the courts, where it has been laughed out repeatedly. It really is all over but the crying.

And yet, never there was an actual forensic audit of the votes. It's no use adding up the tally on the boxes and telling us there is no evidence of fraud, where multiple witnesses have come forward, saying otherwise. We heard for 4 years that Russia stole the 2016 election with zero actual evidence. Well, now you'll be hearing from us that this was a sham election, because I don't see 81 million people voting for this guy who forgets his own name, and you all refused to do an audit in urban areas.

You're free to continue not believing the vote tallies or whatever you like. In the end I actually agree wholeheartedly with J Geoff, that nobody ever changes their mind or anyone else's in conversations like these so I don't expect either of us to do that. I simply just wanted to point out your reasoning that Kamala Harris thinks something is amiss, and is therefore not resigning from her Senate seat, is not as peculiar or sinister as you initially thought, and I tried to say it politely as possible while providing facts. Clearly you choose not to accept it, and that's okay. I still wish you well on life's journey. If you don't mind me asking, where are you from anyway?

Yes, unlike XDCX that used to be a friend, you are very polite and I do appreciate it, while I respectfully disagree. This woman rubs me the wrong way and I don't believe she can do anything that's not sinister. Telling it was a debate and laughing hysterically hoping the question of did she mean what she told Biden goes away still rings in my ears. Anyhow, I'm from one of remaining Bush's axis of evil. I let you guess which one. I'm genuinely scared for talking as much here as I did, I've endangered myself enough. I'm sure our dictators are very happy with Biden and will receive airplanes full of cash on Jan 21st.

Not sure exactly where I was impolite. Because I told you to get over Trump's loss?

Kamala Harris hasn't resigned yet because the dems are a minority in the Senate and they may need her vote. She has already been called upon to cast a deciding vote since the election, against Fed nominee Judy Shelton, on November 17th.

Why would she and her party give up a seat and leave it empty, when her vote may be needed again? Its very simple, it's smart politics, and it doesn't suggest what is being implied.

There have also been forensic audits, in multiple states. To claim that there haven't is disingenuous. These are easily checkable facts.

The claims made by witnesses, and Trump's lawyers in sham hearings don't line up with the claims made in court, where it counts. There's an obvious reason for that.

Nice video afsaneh. I've seen videos like this before, where they are all reading from the same script. Keep in mind, these are all at the local levels! Unfortunately, people believe the big networks like CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC aren't bias at all, they would never lie to them, blah blah blah blah blah.

EXACTLY! So she calls Biden a racist, accuses her own voters of being racist because "they're not ready for a black, female President," (keep in mind, this was for the primary - not the Presidential election. She was calling her own democrat voting base racists), then tries to laugh it off that "it was a debate," while never being pushed harder on the subject. So then let's take her at her word for a minute. Ok, it was a debate. So then you either falsely accused Joe Biden of being a racist for your own political gain or you kept your mouth shut and rode his coattails to the VP. Which is it exactly?

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That's Sinclair Broadcasting. They're a right wing, famously conservative company. Big Trump supporters and endorsers, btw. After the compliation shown in that video went viral, Trump defended the company as being "far superior to CNN and even more Fake NBC, which is a total joke." I'm not sure the point you think that you're making is clear, when Trump supports this type of 'news'.


There absolutely is a real problem in the US with too many people following corrupted information streams. And that applies to people of all political persuasions. Citizens need to be more informed consumers of media, and should know how to fact check. They should consume a variety of different sources, and not just those that confirm their biases.

There has not been a forensic audit of mailed-in ballots. Simply because there is no way to know which ballot came from which envelope where the signature can be matched with the actual owner. Some places the envelopes are even destroyed. The rate that mailed-in ballots were discarded in last elections compared to this election is a joke again. It's the decision of the judge to either keep the result of the mailed-in ballots or discard them altogether. And they went for the former, not that there was no fraud. Like Georgia, the governor says he likes it to be an audit of these ballots, but doesn't actually order it! And these are facts.

I don't know, let's see. The media goes crazy over a criminal drug addict person who resists arrest and even in Netherlands people protest police brutality in the US. Yet thousands of people in my country get killed by the police last year and not a peep. And you expect me to trust media ever again? I didn't see anyone protesting our deaths. I didn't see it even being reported properly.

The only person who ever actually cared and stood by us was that billionaire who apparently doesn't give a shit about anyone but himself and somehow has duped us! You know, I take this as an insult coming from you, XDC, knowing where I live where we fend for our lives.

The other one I posted about Trump disavowing and disapproving KKK multiple times, over the years, did you ever see them air that one? No, they just call him racist non-stop. And no one ask themselves if they lied so blatantly about this one, what other lies have they told us or what their agenda is? Nope.

I'm not XDC. And Trump doesn't care about you. And sadly, too many Americans don't either, because they're unable to separate their feelings about a regime from it's citizens.

I know you are not XDC, I was talking to him in that paragraph. I know you don't care about us. But don't tell me that Trump doesn't care about us. He tweeted in our language as well as English and voiced his support when my people were getting killed. He stopped the flow of money to the regime, and ended that sham of a nuclear deal. That's more than we could ask for. I'll never forget this. He is the only decent American President in my book.

I didn't say that 'I' dont care. Your comprehension could use some work, or perhaps it's just that nuances get lost in translation.


We disagee about this malignant narcissist. You think he cares about you, and i think he's incapable of caring about anyone but himself. So we're coming from opposite poles about the fundamental type of human being he is, and wont agree no matter how long we discuss it.

Have a nice day anyway, though. And i do sincerely hope you're able to push out your leaders someday soon.

After reading the anti-TRUMP comments, it appears that you voted Biden simply because you hate TRUMP. That's pure ignorance. We've seen we're the country went when Biden was in for eight years. In four years TRUMP kept true to his word, where the other two didn't do shit in their eight years. Go clean up Chicago and then worry about taking away everyone's guns. Let's tax the rich and give to those that don't try hard enough? The money tree! Free free free! Nothing's free bro. Planned parenthood? Still three people keep bringing kids into the world that they can't afford. IF YOU CAN'T FEED THEM, DON'T BREED THEM. I'm glad I'm here in sunny Florida where the left doesn't have a leg to stand on. Because of the ridiculous policies states like NY and CA, real estate here is booming. Did you all see what happened to the summer of love in Washington? You're nuts. Our country has too many under-achievers to support socialism. The saddest part about the left, is how they ran bullshit news stories about the guy for four years. The guy is a businessman first and foremost. Our country is a business. Some people's feelings were hurt. Too Bad. Suck it up buttercup. Grow some balls and do your best rather than waiting for handouts. You might surprise yourself with your results. At the end of the day were all American and need to act like it.

I say you don't care, meaning if you cared enough, you would've gotten past your prejudice about the man that may talk the way you don't like and actually have checked about his policies about the Middle East. You cannot be saying that you care about us, and then go vote for the guy who is going to help our oppressors just because the one who had his foot on their throats doesn't talk the way you like.

Thanks for the well wishes anyway.

First off, I can't imagine what that must be like, and I would never trivialize what it's like living somewhere like that. I am American, and therefore have no concept of what it must be like to live in Iran under that kind of regime. I empathize.

That being said, the only thing Trump succeeded in pulling out of the Iran Nuclear Deal is pissing off the current regime to the point where they are no longer cooperating or following the terms of the agreement. They have upped their production of advanced centrifuges to speed up production of uranium, as well as injecting 1,044 of these centrifuges with uranium, which had been kept empty prior as part of the deal. Additionally, he has imposed numerous sanctions against Iran (not necessarily undeserved). He pokes. He prods. He escalates. He says he wanted to negotiate another deal, yet did everything in his power to escalate tensions prior.

Was the deal perfect? Far from it. The sunset clauses included were a ridiculous compromise. But again, rather than any attempt at diplomacy, Trump aggressively lashes out. As he always does. He jumps on Twitter and makes inflammatory comments about ANYONE that doesn't go along with him. He complains the Democrats won't work with him, yet does nothing to improve relations. Quite the contrary actually, as, again, he'll jump on Twitter and bash Pelosi, Schumer, and the rest of the Dems. And I am not in any way excusing the actions or the behavior of the DNC, either. I'm disgusted by both parties.

At this point, I am done with this discussion. I know I'm not gonna change any minds, nor will anyone change mine. Afs, I wish you the best. I still consider you a friend, even if we disagree, and even if you don't consider me a friend anymore. No more politics for me.

Some people still need to be coddled. When I went from carpentry to being a nurse, I was taken back at how the disciplinary process is in the corporate world.

It doesn't fit the media's narrative to show Trump condemning the KKK and other hate groups. But then again, this is the same media who pushed that Trump told people to inject themselves with bleach. Completely taken out of context and they know it.

THIS RIGHT HERE!. I have a feeling over the next 4 years people are going to regret voting for Biden simply because he isn't Trump. And I hope it wakes people up. Take a look at the price of things now like gas, basic essentials, and taxes. See what those numbers look like under a few years of Biden (or Kamala). For anyone who voted for this party, you have just forfeited your right to complain about the cost of anything during the next 4 years. And surprise surprise, the media is now reporting on Hunter Biden's corruption. I seriously wouldn't be surprised if they pushed him out of office due to this in favor of Kamala. It's a bait and switch from the beginning, mark my words.



I truly do feel bad for the business owners and the citizens of these 2 states that are losing everything due to these archaic shutdowns. I only hope, that because of the damage these politicians are creating with these lock downs (that they're not even following themselves, mind you), is it'll turn some of these Democrat voters to vote Republican during the next election cycle!



Blue, we speak the same language! What people on the left don't understand and what I could care less about is Trump's demeanor or how he talks. I respect a man who speaks his mind. He's not politically correct and doesn't give in to the mob and I love that about him. People vote with feelings for Biden rather than facts for Trump.

I'm done with this as well. But wanted to point out that the deal that you say was less than perfect, enabled them to set fire to the entire middle east. It's responsible for killing half a million Syrian, and making over 5 millions of them fleeing their homes. Never mind what they do in Iraq, Lebanon, Yemen, et al. No one was safe. Don't buy into their talking points. Trump would not give them an inch doing what they were doing and that was a good thing.

My wife is currently pregnant with a baby boy and we have both decided to name him Donald.

So proud of my president for pardoning all the people who've been loyal to him. This is what a good man does, ladies and gentleman. He cares about people who went to bat for him. I feel he should pardon every single person who voted for him, regardless of crime. If you voted for this great man, then you are head and shoulders above the rest in my humble opinion. He should not leave office. Martial law is next.

Long live our great nation!

troll better

Donald Trump Thanks God for ‘Greatest Miracle in Human History’ in Christmas Greeting

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...-in-human-history-in-christmas-greeting/

I agreee withhim. Are you guys Christian?

I proudly am and his message was in stark contrast to what Biden put out (all COVID related).

So glad to hear that. Nothing can be accomplished without Christ. Biden is a piece of fucking shit

Same could be said for Trump.

Covid: Trump fails to sign economic relief bill into law

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-55454720

$600 per citizen with a whole bunch of other bullshit tagged along with it. Trump wants to eliminate the fluff and give $2k to those who qualify. What are you going to do with $600? Meanwhile two museums, some bullshit for the Dali llama, and so on.

Trumps out the door, but we all know there’s been something majorly wrong. You Americans seem to accept it every single election, apart from Abama...

It’s nearly a running joke across the rest of the world...remember bush and jeb in Florida...totally corrupt throughout the whole infrastructure..if it was any other country with nuclear weapons, the USA would invade....

Terrible the way the USA has went and will continue to go...

The USA is very slow on crypto currency and that’s the next thing they will miss out on then try to take by force....remember this post...

China and the rest of the world have accepted it wholeheartedly, including the UK, US are immediately lagging behind...watch how initially Bitcoin gets spoken about , then disregarded for other types.....just watch...;)

Just like blueracing347 said, only $600 for Americans while $10 million goes to Pakistan for gender studies!? I don't care if Pakistan does gender studies, just let them fund it. Not to mention the rest of the frivolous spending. Why should I be left with $600 as scraps and be told to "be grateful." Since March we would have received $1,800 in 10 months. $1800 / 10 = $180 per month. Do you think that's enough to live on?

I voted for the winner.