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Europes rape Crisis

Posted By: jace

Europes rape Crisis - 06/14/18 03:44 AM

Immigrant asylum seekers are causing rape rates to rise across Europe. When I thought it could not get sicker than the New Years Eve mass rapes in Germany or the rape of 12 year old boy in Austria by a refugee who claimed it was "A sexual emergency " we now have paralyzed and wheelchair bound women being attacked.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/201...ally-disabled-belgian-woman-anchor-baby/
Posted By: Giacomo_Vacari

Re: Europes rape Crisis - 06/14/18 07:09 AM

As sick and as bad as this is, I honestly can't say it is worst then the New Years Eve mass rapes in Germany.
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Europes rape Crisis - 06/15/18 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by jace
Immigrant asylum seekers are causing rape rates to rise across Europe.


Zero scientific evidence to back this up.
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: Europes rape Crisis - 06/15/18 02:47 PM

Almost every rape in Ireland is committed by asylum seekers.

The latest, a gang rape in County Kildare.

Most of the time, the newspapers neglect to mention the fact the attackers are non-nationals.

It's only going to get worse.

Unless the children of politicians, judges or policy makers start getting raped.
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Europes rape Crisis - 06/15/18 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by Moe_Tilden
Almost every rape in Ireland is committed by asylum seekers.


Absurd.
Posted By: JCrusher

Re: Europes rape Crisis - 06/15/18 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by OakAsFan
Originally Posted by Moe_Tilden
Almost every rape in Ireland is committed by asylum seekers.


Absurd.

Liberals shouldnt be calling anything absurd. The amount of bullshit they tell is the definition of absurd...and disgustin
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Europes rape Crisis - 06/15/18 03:40 PM

Well, Moe's outright made up rape statistics in Ireland are absurd.
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: Europes rape Crisis - 06/15/18 04:31 PM

The sad thing is I'm not making it up. Virtually every time I've read about a sexual assault in the last year or so, it's been a foreign national who committed it.

And, what the fuck would Oak know about rape statistics in Ireland.

The same thing has been happening for years in Sweden and England.

Now Ireland is catching up.
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: Europes rape Crisis - 06/15/18 04:36 PM

Off the top of my head:

Aforementioned gang rape in Kildare (non-nationals)
Two rickshaw drivers raped women in Dublin (non-nationals)
Male tried to rape a woman in toilets in McDonalds in Dublin (non-national)
Male followed foreign national off bus and raped her in her house (non-national)
Man drugged and raped two women in his flat; this happened in the county I live in (non-national)

I can't think of any rapes committed by Irish nationals thAt have been in the news here.

For such a small part of the population they sure do fucking seem to be responsible for most of the sexual assaults here.

But anyone could see what would happen when you look how they treat women and children in their own countries.

Fucking savages.
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Europes rape Crisis - 06/15/18 05:49 PM

Originally Posted by Moe_Tilden
The sad thing is I'm not making it up.


Actually, the sad thing is that you are.

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Virtually every time I've read about a sexual assault in the last year or so, it's been a foreign national who committed it.


This.....this is not proof that "almost every rape in Ireland is committed by asylum seekers". That's not how any of this works.

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And, what the fuck would Oak know about rape statistics in Ireland.


Better yet, what would you know? The only evidence you cite to back up your claim is that you've only read stories involving asylum seekers committing rape. There's no way for you to even prove that. Even if it were true, however, it still wouldn't prove that "almost every" rape in Ireland is committed by an asylum seeker. It would only mean that these instances are the ones being reported. Of course, you're making this up anyway, so it's a moot point.

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The same thing has been happening for years in Sweden and England.


No, it hasn't. And I thought Ireland was your area of expertise. Now you know eff all about Sweden and England, too? Anyhow, your conclusions are rants and musings of an uninformed person. You're simply making up your evidence.
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Europes rape Crisis - 06/15/18 06:03 PM

Originally Posted by Moe_Tilden
Off the top of my head:


Your only source, after all...

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Aforementioned gang rape in Kildare (non-nationals)
Two rickshaw drivers raped women in Dublin (non-nationals)
Male tried to rape a woman in toilets in McDonalds in Dublin (non-national)
Male followed foreign national off bus and raped her in her house (non-national)
Man drugged and raped two women in his flat; this happened in the county I live in (non-national)


These are examples of immigrants committing rape, not evidence that most rapes are committed by immigrants.

It would be like saying that the Republican party is the only party where people get indicted.

How do I know?

Well, off the top of my head...there's Paul Manafort....

That's how this game works...

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I can't think of any rapes committed by Irish nationals thAt have been in the news here.


This is only proof that such incidents aren't being reported, whether they're happening or not. It's not proof that Irish nationals don't commit rape, which is a laughably absurd statement.

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For such a small part of the population they sure do fucking seem to be responsible for most of the sexual assaults here.


Because this is what's being reported by the most notable media outlets. The media has the power to make things "seem".

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But anyone could see what would happen when you look how they treat women and children in their own countries.

Fucking savages.


I know. Based off "the top of your head". Certainly not any sort of scientific data which compares and contrasts how women and children are treated in any two particular countries.
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: Europes rape Crisis - 06/15/18 07:35 PM

"The media has the power to make things seem."

I don't know why I'm engaging with a troll, and moron, whose only purpose on this forum is to antagonize people - but I'll give it the old college try.

The Irish media goes out of its way to not mention the nationality of these rapists, yet cursory research will invariably show the nationality of the rapists is African or Middle Eastern.

I never said Irish people don't commit rapes; I said I can't think off the top of my head a rape involving an Irish attacker that made the news. Not my fault, you can't comprehend what I say.

Then again, look who I'm talking to.

Mr. Black and White whose understanding of social and political issues and nuances doesn't get any more profound than tired old cliches about Trump and republicans.
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: Europes rape Crisis - 06/15/18 07:38 PM

Again, the sad thing is I'm not exaggerating. For a statistically tiny proportion of the population, they commit an incredible amount of targeted rapes against strangers.

Of course, this being 2018, and a liberal society, the solution is to stick one's head in the sand.
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: Europes rape Crisis - 06/15/18 07:44 PM

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-england-39580591

What do you derive from that data, Oak?

While you're at it, look up the Rotherham child exploitation scandal, and tell us what you notice.
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Europes rape Crisis - 06/15/18 07:52 PM

Originally Posted by Moe_Tilden
I don't know why I'm engaging with a troll, and moron, whose only purpose on this forum is to antagonize people -


Should people who make blanketed statements about entire groups of people without any evidence whatsoever not be antagonized in some way?

Should no one have said anything? Would the world be an easier place if nobody ever challenged your fabrications and stereotypes?

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The Irish media goes out of its way to not mention the nationality of these rapists,


Unsubstantiated. Now you're making things up to back up other things you've made up.

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yet cursory research will invariably show the nationality of the rapists is African or Middle Eastern.


You're just using different words to state the same unfounded conclusion.

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I said I can't think off the top of my head a rape involving an Irish attacker that made the news.


Which proves nothing, other than that

a) it's just not being reported in the news
b) it is, but you have a short attention span
c) it is, but you're omitting it to suit your agenda

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Then again, look who I'm talking to.


You've been called out here in the past by several people for making sweeping generalizations about Italians. I suspect you're now doing the same with immigrants in Ireland.
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Europes rape Crisis - 06/15/18 07:56 PM

Originally Posted by Moe_Tilden
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-england-39580591

What do you derive from that data, Oak?

While you're at it, look up the Rotherham child exploitation scandal, and tell us what you notice.


Whenever someone posts a link without quoting anything from it, you know it's BS.

Sure enough, this is a link to a story about one case. It doesn't prove in any way that most rapes in Ireland are committed by immigrants. You're simply making it up.
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Europes rape Crisis - 06/15/18 07:57 PM

Originally Posted by Moe_Tilden
Again, the sad thing is I'm not exaggerating. For a statistically tiny proportion of the population, they commit an incredible amount of targeted rapes against strangers.

Of course, this being 2018, and a liberal society, the solution is to stick one's head in the sand.


Doubling down on your fictional tale.
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: Europes rape Crisis - 06/15/18 09:04 PM

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Should people who make blanketed statements about entire groups of people without any evidence whatsoever not be antagonized in some way?

Should no one have said anything? Would the world be an easier place if nobody ever challenged your fabrications and stereotypes?


It's my own anecdotal experience. Ireland is a small country; the size of a small American state. So the pattern quickly becomes very noticeable when, as I said, I click on news stories relating to sexual crimes and the attacker is invariably an asylum seeker/immigrant. That's not the same as saying all asylum seekers/immigrants are rapists. It's not my fault you can't comprehend simple English.

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Unsubstantiated. Now you're making things up to back up other things you've made up.


Do some research of your own instead of blithely dismissing my own. The details pertaining to nationality of the attackers are almost always buried. There was one Nigerian-born footballer, Ismahil Akinade, currently playing professional football in the country who was involved in a gang attack on a girl several years ago and the facts about his participation in the crime, and the nationality of the attackers, was buried in the almost non-existent coverage of the attack. His participation in the rape would've gone under the radar were it not for the due diligence of concerned citizens.


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Which proves nothing, other than that

a) it's just not being reported in the news
b) it is, but you have a short attention span
c) it is, but you're omitting it to suit your agenda


I've already explained it's my own anecdotal evidence. Foreign nationals certainly don't have a monopoly on crime in Ireland, but when it comes to sex related crimes, it's close.

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You've been called out here in the past by several people for making sweeping generalizations about Italians. I suspect you're now doing the same with immigrants in Ireland.


Proof?

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Whenever someone posts a link without quoting anything from it, you know it's BS.

Sure enough, this is a link to a story about one case. It doesn't prove in any way that most rapes in Ireland are committed by immigrants. You're simply making it up.


Refusing to engage with the facts, eh? I showed you a link to one well-publicized child exploitation scandal involving the ethnic community, but you have nothing to say about the relevant facts and figures.

Here's another one you refuse to engage with: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: Europes rape Crisis - 06/15/18 09:14 PM

Again, NOT generalizing all asylum seekers and immigrants as rapists, because the vast majority of them are law abiding. Simply stating facts that a shockingly high proportion of reported sexual assaults are committed by people who make up a sizeable minority of the country.

Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Europes rape Crisis - 06/15/18 09:49 PM

Originally Posted by Moe_Tilden
I click on news stories relating to sexual crimes and the attacker is invariably an asylum seeker/immigrant.


This. Proves. Absolutely. Nothing.

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Do some research of your own instead of blithely dismissing my own.


You don't have any research to dismiss. You made something up, and you're just doubling down on it.

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The details pertaining to nationality of the attackers are almost always buried. There was one Nigerian-born footballer, Ismahil Akinade, currently playing professional football in the country who was involved in a gang attack on a girl several years ago and the facts about his participation in the crime, and the nationality of the attackers, was buried in the almost non-existent coverage of the attack. His participation in the rape would've gone under the radar were it not for the due diligence of concerned citizens.


Proves nothing.

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Foreign nationals certainly don't have a monopoly on crime in Ireland, but when it comes to sex related crimes, it's close.


Just a differently worded version of the same lie.

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Refusing to engage with the facts, eh?


The facts were irrelevant. It was one case. Even if it were several cases, there was nothing in the article that compared rape convictions among immigrants to those of Irish nationals. You may as well have posted a dead link.

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Only you would post a link to a wikipedia page (that you probably just edited yourself) instead of simply posting the links from one of the articles' citations at the bottom of the page. And, of course, your wikipedia link describes one story, anyway.

You're lying. You're simply made up your theory that nearly all rapes in Ireland are committed by immigrants.
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: Europes rape Crisis - 06/15/18 10:04 PM

So basically your argument boils down to, "you're lying."

I don't have a theory that nearly all rapes in Ireland are committed by immigrants. Instead, I feel like I'm explaining this to a child, that, anecdotally, almost every time I read about a sexual assault in the news the culprits are non-nationals.

The mugshots and names listed in the two articles I provided all describe people from ethnic backgrounds. I don't have to make anything up. The article you conveniently ignored cites the BBC for crying out loud.

Here's another BBC link for the story you are accusing me of misrepresenting pertaining to Huddersfield:
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-39580591

And here is, yet another, BBC link referring to a child exploitation ring in another medium sized British town: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leeds-36559092

Notice a pattern yet?

I await your next passive-aggressive reply.

Still awaiting proof of my generalisations of Italian people BTW.
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Europes rape Crisis - 06/15/18 10:42 PM

Originally Posted by Moe_Tilden
So basically your argument boils down to, "you're lying."


It's all I needed.

I'll save my energy for someone who actually has a strong argument.

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almost every time I read about a sexual assault in the news the culprits are non-nationals.


Which neither proves or even demonstrates anything, other than your limited resources or attention span.

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The mugshots and names listed in the two articles I provided all describe people from ethnic backgrounds. I don't have to make anything up. The article you conveniently ignored cites the BBC for crying out loud.


And they prove nothing. Other than immigrants were the culprits, in those cases.

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Here's another BBC link for the story you are accusing me of misrepresenting pertaining to Huddersfield:
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-39580591

And here is, yet another, BBC link referring to a child exploitation ring in another medium sized British town: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leeds-36559092

Notice a pattern yet?


A pattern of you not knowing the difference between anecdotal evidence and evidence.
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: Europes rape Crisis - 06/15/18 11:10 PM

How is that not anecdotal evidence?

Says the troll who blocks discourse on his PM's.

Yeah, I already gauged that you can't rationally debate all the literature I posted.
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Europes rape Crisis - 06/15/18 11:17 PM

Here's some literature you can post.

How about the crime stats from Ireland showing that "nearly all" rapes are committed by those seeking asylum?

Just back out of this and admit you lied. Admit it, this has to be getting exhausting.
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: Europes rape Crisis - 06/15/18 11:28 PM

Look them up yourself. They don't specify who commits them. For the millionth time, I am referring to news articles I've read over approximately the last 18 months.
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Europes rape Crisis - 06/15/18 11:46 PM

And, for the millionth time, I'm referring to this crackpot comment of yours.

Originally Posted by Moe_Tilden
Almost every rape in Ireland is committed by asylum seekers.
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: Europes rape Crisis - 06/16/18 12:43 AM

And?

I said almost, not all.

I live here, unlike you.
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: Europes rape Crisis - 06/16/18 12:51 AM

If 7 out of every 10 articles, and I'm being conservative here, refers to a foreign national committing the crime specified then, excuse me, but I'm not going to mince words just to be politically correct.

When it comes to natives, Dublin has a plethora of problems with drug and gun crime, but that's drug and gun crime.

I'm talking about sex related crimes. I don't know a single woman who is comfortable taking a cab with a non-native driver (unless Eastern European or British)

There's probably a reason for this.
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: Europes rape Crisis - 06/16/18 01:19 AM

And I still await an explanation for Oak attributing to me comments about Italian people that I don't recall making.

Plenty of Italians here. They never cause any problems; just make an honest living. Like most blacks, and middle easterns, too. As for Italian-Americans, they helped mould America into what makes it great; so many artists who have been an enormous credit to culture and the arts.

For Gods sake, I have been the loudest critic of illegal IRISH immigrants in America or, "undocumented".

But, a lot of these asylum seekers and immigrants are not properly vetted. That's the facts. And it's reflected in the shit that's going on. And I won't pussyfoot about it.

Look at the child exploitation that's going on in India and Pakistan, in particular; rapes and abuse of children.

What rightful person wants this shit in their own backyard? A lot of these people lie about seeking asylum from some bullshit danger in their own country that doesn't exist.

It makes a mockery of people from places like Syria who do actually need, and deserve placement.
Posted By: jace

Re: Europes rape Crisis - 06/17/18 02:55 AM

Originally Posted by Moe_Tilden
So basically your argument boils down to, "you're lying."

I don't have a theory that nearly all rapes in Ireland are committed by immigrants. Instead, I feel like I'm explaining this to a child, that, anecdotally, almost every time I read about a sexual assault in the news the culprits are non-nationals.

The mugshots and names listed in the two articles I provided all describe people from ethnic backgrounds. I don't have to make anything up. The article you conveniently ignored cites the BBC for crying out loud.

Here's another BBC link for the story you are accusing me of misrepresenting pertaining to Huddersfield:
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-39580591

And here is, yet another, BBC link referring to a child exploitation ring in another medium sized British town: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leeds-36559092

Notice a pattern yet?

I await your next passive-aggressive reply.

Still awaiting proof of my generalisations of Italian people BTW.




If you showed him a video with the immigrants bragging that they rape, and that they do it frequently, he'd dismiss it as nothing. Sweden has. a rape crisis they never had till they took the people in, same for Austria and other nations. OakA's will demand proof, then when you show it to him he will just troll along saying it shows nothing or is a fake link.
Posted By: jace

Re: Europes rape Crisis - 06/17/18 03:00 AM

Immigrant raped 10 year old boy. OakA'sfan is fine with it.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-old-boy-swimming-pool-sentence-cut.html
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: Europes rape Crisis - 06/17/18 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by jace
Originally Posted by Moe_Tilden
So basically your argument boils down to, "you're lying."

I don't have a theory that nearly all rapes in Ireland are committed by immigrants. Instead, I feel like I'm explaining this to a child, that, anecdotally, almost every time I read about a sexual assault in the news the culprits are non-nationals.

The mugshots and names listed in the two articles I provided all describe people from ethnic backgrounds. I don't have to make anything up. The article you conveniently ignored cites the BBC for crying out loud.

Here's another BBC link for the story you are accusing me of misrepresenting pertaining to Huddersfield:
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-39580591

And here is, yet another, BBC link referring to a child exploitation ring in another medium sized British town: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leeds-36559092

Notice a pattern yet?

I await your next passive-aggressive reply.

Still awaiting proof of my generalisations of Italian people BTW.




If you showed him a video with the immigrants bragging that they rape, and that they do it frequently, he'd dismiss it as nothing. Sweden has. a rape crisis they never had till they took the people in, same for Austria and other nations. OakA's will demand proof, then when you show it to him he will just troll along saying it shows nothing or is a fake link.


Debating with him sure is a war of attrition.
Posted By: fergie

Re: Europes rape Crisis - 06/22/18 12:07 AM

Moe, I read all the comments here....you are totally correct, it's obvious. I couldn't give a fuck where my neighbours are from, however, however it's obvious, and history proves, whenever you introduce another population with different attitudes and beliefs on the scale western countries have especially, into an opposite belief country, it presents serious issues.

I'm cool with everybody mixing etc, but I get the feeling people from the Middle East, innocent people mainly, are getting pushed into Europe by groups who's end game is to breed the population out and ultimately make sure extreme Islam takes over.

They prey on our weakness about being PC and accepting everybody etc
Posted By: fergie

Re: Europes rape Crisis - 06/22/18 12:14 AM

It reminds me of a scene in the film Braveheart, the English King couldn't beat us (I'm Scottish) so he commanded every English soldier could basically rape Scottish women, the line was "If we can't get them out, we'll breed them out".

That's the deal....
Posted By: fergie

Re: Europes rape Crisis - 06/22/18 12:17 AM

No Muslim families in the U.K have only 1 kid....I assume it's the same in the US

Somebody tell me honestly different
Posted By: jace

Re: Europes rape Crisis - 06/22/18 02:48 AM

Swedish people have to alter their lives because of their governments insane immigration policy. instead of cracking down, they cancel an event.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/201...llowing-wave-sex-attacks-previous-years/
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Europes rape Crisis - 06/22/18 06:04 PM

Originally Posted by jace
Immigrant asylum seekers are causing rape rates to rise across Europe. When I thought it could not get sicker than the New Years Eve mass rapes in Germany or the rape of 12 year old boy in Austria by a refugee who claimed it was "A sexual emergency " we now have paralyzed and wheelchair bound women being attacked.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/201...ally-disabled-belgian-woman-anchor-baby/


Fake News.
Posted By: jace

Re: Europes rape Crisis - 06/23/18 05:27 AM

Originally Posted by OakAsFan
Originally Posted by jace
Immigrant asylum seekers are causing rape rates to rise across Europe. When I thought it could not get sicker than the New Years Eve mass rapes in Germany or the rape of 12 year old boy in Austria by a refugee who claimed it was "A sexual emergency " we now have paralyzed and wheelchair bound women being attacked.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/201...ally-disabled-belgian-woman-anchor-baby/


Fake News.


If it was fake news you would be cheering it on. It is real, women are being raped so much they had to stop a concert. You mock rapes, and child deaths. You are a sick degenerate.
Posted By: jace

Re: Europes rape Crisis - 06/23/18 05:52 AM

Originally Posted by OakAsFan
Originally Posted by jace
Immigrant asylum seekers are causing rape rates to rise across Europe. When I thought it could not get sicker than the New Years Eve mass rapes in Germany or the rape of 12 year old boy in Austria by a refugee who claimed it was "A sexual emergency " we now have paralyzed and wheelchair bound women being attacked.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/201...ally-disabled-belgian-woman-anchor-baby/


Fake News.



It is also reported by Time (liberal site) BBC (liberal site) and others.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Europes rape Crisis - 06/23/18 07:58 AM

Originally Posted by fergie
No Muslim families in the U.K have only 1 kid....I assume it's the same in the US

Somebody tell me honestly different


In the catholic south of the Netherlands it was normal to have a very large family with more than six children until the early 60s , after which the number of children per family quickly declined. The same will eventually happen with the large Muslim families here, but it will take some time.
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Europes rape Crisis - 06/23/18 08:11 PM

Originally Posted by jace
It is also reported by Time (liberal site) BBC (liberal site) and others.


Fake. News.
Posted By: jace

Re: Europes rape Crisis - 06/24/18 03:15 AM

Originally Posted by OakAsFan
Originally Posted by jace
It is also reported by Time (liberal site) BBC (liberal site) and others.


Fake. News.



So all news is fake. Good. Then there is no racism in America, no one has ever in history been discriminated against, and Malcolm X never existed. If anyone tells you he did, let them know it is fake news they read. Thank you. Now go get. life.
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