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Myth Of Absent Black Fathers

Posted By: BlackFamily

Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 02/20/18 07:57 PM



Mainstream media stereotypes as usual.
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 02/20/18 09:42 PM

I grew up with a lot of people raised by single mothers who ended up fine. Products of divorce. Would visit their fathers every other weekend, or something like that, but the father had very little influence on their upbringing. They ended up doing great.
Posted By: Belmont

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 02/20/18 11:05 PM

Divorce is totally different. The fathers usually play a big part in their childs lives. The kids have a sense of identity and usually have normal relationships with their grandparents and relatives
Out of wedlock Kids, many times, have no idea who their father, have no sense of identity, and more often than not, are born to very young, unskilled mothers who rely on welfare from day one. Those kids dont have a sense of identity and many times their siblings come from different fathers who they dont know either,
Coming from a divorced family and being born out of wedlock are comparing apples and oranges.
With diviorce, as tramutic as it may be, the child has a sense of stability and knows that they were born through traditional marriage opposed to an out of wedlock birth where they were concieved from “ a night of clubbing”.
Posted By: BlackFamily

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 02/20/18 11:08 PM

Originally Posted by Belmont
Divorce is totally different. The fathers usually play a big part in their childs lives. The kids have a sense of identity and usually have normal relationships with their grandparents and relatives
Out of wedlock Kids, many times, have no idea who their fathers are and more often than not, are born to very young, unskilled mothers who rely on welfare. Those kids dont have a sense of identity and many times their siblings come from different fathers who they dont know either,
Coming from a divorced family and being born out of wedlock are comparing apples and oranges.
With diviorce, as tramutic as it may be, the child has a sense of stability and knows that they were born through traditional marriage opposed to an out of wedlock birth where they were concieved from “ a night of clubbing”.


Obviously your a troll or fully not comprehending the information presented to you.
Posted By: Belmont

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 02/20/18 11:09 PM

No, im not a troll. I just dont buy into the nonsense you espouse. Its untrue and defies logic.
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 02/20/18 11:57 PM

I know of plenty cases where the fathers of divorced kids played a minimal role, at best, and the kids ended up fine. I pointed that out. This was the case with one of my best friends. He's in his 40s now and is quite successful by most standards.
Posted By: Belmont

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 02/21/18 12:26 AM

Of course crime results from kids that come from divorced families. However, its MUCH more prevelent with children born out of wedlock, especially violent crime. Lets not forget welfare, poverty, and kids who have no idea who their fathers are.
Posted By: alexandarns

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 02/21/18 12:51 AM

you are all fighting a lost cause, blacks tend to act like animals more than any other race even the latino race. They didnt get out of the ghettos like any other ethnic group like the jews, irish or italians..They stay and pillage their own neighbourhoods like rabies dogs even after 150 years of freedom and all that has been done for the emantipation of blacks. Obama would never have been president if he wasnt half white, and thats a fact.
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 02/21/18 12:57 AM

I'm not sure what you mean when you say that crime results from kids that come from divorced families. This hasn't been the case in my experience. Lots of single moms raised boys to successful men where I'm from.
Posted By: RollinBones

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 02/21/18 12:59 AM

Originally Posted by alexandarns
you are all fighting a lost cause, blacks tend to act like animals more than any other race even the latino race. They didnt get out of the ghettos like any other ethnic group like the jews, irish or italians..They stay and pillage their own neighbourhoods like rabies dogs even after 150 years of freedom and all that has been done for the emantipation of blacks. Obama would never have been president if he wasnt half white, and thats a fact.

Jeez pal you sound like you've got a lot of hate built up there. I didn't even know they had many black folks in Serbia for you to form these opinions.
Posted By: alexandarns

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 02/21/18 01:13 AM

Originally Posted by RollinBones
Originally Posted by alexandarns
you are all fighting a lost cause, blacks tend to act like animals more than any other race even the latino race. They didnt get out of the ghettos like any other ethnic group like the jews, irish or italians..They stay and pillage their own neighbourhoods like rabies dogs even after 150 years of freedom and all that has been done for the emantipation of blacks. Obama would never have been president if he wasnt half white, and thats a fact.

Jeez pal you sound like you've got a lot of hate built up there. I didn't even know they had many black folks in Serbia for you to form these opinions.



No buddy, I don't have even a bit of hate. I listen to hip hop and grew up with a family of black from Nigeria. Don't really hate anyone especially blacks but that's the way it is it's just that you guys won't admit to it and I get that. How come the little italy's or whatever old ghetto's aren't ghettos anymore? And is it not trur that Obama was 50% white?
Don't think I don't know what I'm talking about. Went to school for 4 years in the US and have fam there so..you guys just can't say a word without a lot of freaks, liberals and what not jumping like Al Sharpton.
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 02/21/18 01:23 AM

Black people in America have not had "150 years of freedom".

In fact, no group in America has enjoyed 150 consecutive years of freedom, other than white, Christian males.
Posted By: BlackFamily

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 02/21/18 01:39 AM

Originally Posted by Belmont
No, im not a troll. I just dont buy into the nonsense you espouse. Its untrue and defies logic.


Since I'm one of those out of wedlock children then I'm a walking paradox by your logic. Alrighty I will just take option A the troll and leave ye be. Peace.
Posted By: RollinBones

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 02/21/18 01:39 AM

Originally Posted by alexandarns
Originally Posted by RollinBones
Originally Posted by alexandarns
you are all fighting a lost cause, blacks tend to act like animals more than any other race even the latino race. They didnt get out of the ghettos like any other ethnic group like the jews, irish or italians..They stay and pillage their own neighbourhoods like rabies dogs even after 150 years of freedom and all that has been done for the emantipation of blacks. Obama would never have been president if he wasnt half white, and thats a fact.

Jeez pal you sound like you've got a lot of hate built up there. I didn't even know they had many black folks in Serbia for you to form these opinions.



No buddy, I don't have even a bit of hate. I listen to hip hop and grew up with a family of black from Nigeria. Don't really hate anyone especially blacks but that's the way it is it's just that you guys won't admit to it and I get that. How come the little italy's or whatever old ghetto's aren't ghettos anymore? And is it not trur that Obama was 50% white?
Don't think I don't know what I'm talking about. Went to school for 4 years in the US and have fam there so..you guys just can't say a word without a lot of freaks, liberals and what not jumping like Al Sharpton.


If you can't see how the shit you just posted was, at the very least, extremely ignorant then I don't know how much you're really willing to learn. For instance the history of things like redlining and other tools the government used to stifle black upward mobility. Also, the "end of slavery = end of racism and systematic oppression" argument is oversimplified and unrealistic. Do you really think the day the sun rose after the Emancipation Proclamation all racism and racist practices simply disappeared? That people didn't pass that racism down and those in power do what they could to make sure that power stayed firmly in an all-white grasp? That's a horribly narrow view to take man.

Obama is absolutely half-white, but I don't see why you think that's the key reason he was elected president.

Also, Little Italy is not a ghetto anymore because of its proximity to central Manhattan and the gentrification that has come with that. The neighborhood was a slum for over 100 years before people with money began wanting to move back in to major cities. The same sort of gentrification is happening in historically Black neighborhoods like Bed Stuy and Bushwick. When it was still a slum, most Italians who could afford to leave, did.

If you care to read more about this here's a good starting point. Not trying to belittle you or your experience, just offering a different perspective.
https://timeline.com/redlining-federal-housing-racist-14d7f48267e8
Posted By: BlackFamily

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 02/21/18 01:45 AM

Originally Posted by alexandarns
you are all fighting a lost cause, blacks tend to act like animals more than any other race even the latino race. They didnt get out of the ghettos like any other ethnic group like the jews, irish or italians..They stay and pillage their own neighbourhoods like rabies dogs even after 150 years of freedom and all that has been done for the emantipation of blacks. Obama would never have been president if he wasnt half white, and thats a fact.


You do realized that majority of blacks don't live in the ghetto , Carry themselves like every other American just with extra flavor, have multiple forms of music & creativity, inventions, & oh I'm sorry your not from here. How's the weather over there Cuzzz?
Posted By: Belmont

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 02/21/18 01:46 AM

Little Italy isnt a slum because the italians made it a better place. They actually had pride in their neighborhoods. They worked hard, saved their money, and then moved to the suburbs. Even in the 1970’s when they were still many Italians still living there, it was extremely safe. Money doesnt make a neighborhood safe, the people that live there do. Ask any italian who lived in an urban ghetto and they all say the same thing: they never locked their doors.
Most italians have strong traditional family values. Many asians came here the last 20 years and they are very poor. Yet , their kids do very well and the crime rates in asian neighborhoods are very low, especially compared to black neighborhoods. Asians are the true minorites. Again, stong family values. When is the last time you saw an asian with out of wedlock babies? Good luck trying to find one.
Posted By: Belmont

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 02/21/18 01:51 AM

They dont live in ghettos’s! They actually turn nice neighborhoods into ghettos. They are great at doing that. No offense.
Black inventions?? Really??? Give me a break.
Posted By: alexandarns

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 02/21/18 01:55 AM

RollinBones I appreciate your kind words and thank you for the link but you just making excuses for them that's all, thay should man up for their own acts. Not really talking about little italy man, but little italys all over America. How about the lower east side where the irish and jews left long before GENTRIFICATION. You can't blame it all on white folks that is just childish.
Not saying that Obama was elected because he was half white, but because of that he had a brain and is smart, and you guys know it. Look at black crime and italian organized crime, where did black crime lead? Never pased drugs. And than look at the italians, should I say more? One example after another.

Stop making exuses for their actions, it's just the way it is and that's ok. Nobody plays baskeball od dances like a black.

And for Oak

slavery was abolished 1865, so I don't know what the hell are you talking about. I don't care if you guys think white people were bringing them down. For me that's an exuse not to get up of your ass
Posted By: LittleNicky

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 02/21/18 01:56 AM

Originally Posted by OakAsFan
I grew up with a lot of people raised by single mothers who ended up fine. Products of divorce. Would visit their fathers every other weekend, or something like that, but the father had very little influence on their upbringing. They ended up doing great.


This is about as retarded as stating that height is of no help in basketball because 5'8 Isiah Thomas is a great basketball player. We are talking about on-average differences and distributions, moron. Not individuals.

This issue isn't up for debate. We have overwhelming empirical social science research on the extremely negative effects of single mother households. They show these children have inferior outcomes in education, economic attainment and mental health. I will not even go into the massively increased risk for childhood trauma- sexual and physical abuse is sickeningly common.
Posted By: fatdomgamiello36

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 02/21/18 02:02 AM

Can someone give me the cliff notes of this argument? Is it that the statistical evidence is wrong and there aren't alot of black kids with no fathers or is the argument that it isn't' that bad to have no dad?
Posted By: alexandarns

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 02/21/18 02:08 AM

Originally Posted by BlackFamily
Originally Posted by alexandarns
you are all fighting a lost cause, blacks tend to act like animals more than any other race even the latino race. They didnt get out of the ghettos like any other ethnic group like the jews, irish or italians..They stay and pillage their own neighbourhoods like rabies dogs even after 150 years of freedom and all that has been done for the emantipation of blacks. Obama would never have been president if he wasnt half white, and thats a fact.


You do realized that majority of blacks don't live in the ghetto , Carry themselves like every other American just with extra flavor, have multiple forms of music & creativity, inventions, & oh I'm sorry your not from here. How's the weather over there Cuzzz?



That's not flavor, it's called uncivilized.
Posted By: RollinBones

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 02/21/18 02:09 AM

Originally Posted by alexandarns
RollinBones I appreciate your kind words and thank you for the link but you just making excuses for them that's all, thay should man up for their own acts. Not really talking about little italy man, but little italys all over America. How about the lower east side where the irish and jews left long before GENTRIFICATION. You can't blame it all on white folks that is just childish.
Not saying that Obama was elected because he was half white, but because of that he had a brain and is smart, and you guys know it. Look at black crime and italian organized crime, where did black crime lead? Never pased drugs. And than look at the italians, should I say more? One example after another.

Stop making exuses for their actions, it's just the way it is and that's ok. Nobody plays baskeball od dances like a black.

And for Oak

slavery was abolished 1865, so I don't know what the hell are you talking about. I don't care if you guys think white people were bringing them down. For me that's an exuse not to get up of your ass

I'm not making any excuses, only exposing the racist history of America to you. It is what it is, but people don't like to be real about it. You're gonna sit here and tell me you're not racist when you consider black people to essentially be inferior to whites? Come on.

Obviously, you're not the only one that thinks that way. America has had generations of policy makers that believed the same and used their power to further their own agendas. And forgive but I still don't see your point about Obama. So he had a brain only because he was half-white?
Posted By: LittleNicky

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 02/21/18 02:10 AM

Just a white chick with a bizarre argument about cohabitation. We have the evidence on cohabitation, it is inferior to marriage in every way on childhood outcomes.

And even if we find it a step above the worst case scenario (ie no father), blacks again lead the racial groups in that: https://ifstudies.org/blog/race-cohabitation-and-childrens-family-stability

And anyone that wants to play the slavery game needs to explain why the black family was stronger than whites pre-welfare state. You literally would have to believe that the worst kind of racism in history failed to dent the family structure, but 1960s and 70s racism did.

Posted By: alexandarns

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 02/21/18 02:27 AM

Originally Posted by RollinBones
Originally Posted by alexandarns
RollinBones I appreciate your kind words and thank you for the link but you just making excuses for them that's all, thay should man up for their own acts. Not really talking about little italy man, but little italys all over America. How about the lower east side where the irish and jews left long before GENTRIFICATION. You can't blame it all on white folks that is just childish.
Not saying that Obama was elected because he was half white, but because of that he had a brain and is smart, and you guys know it. Look at black crime and italian organized crime, where did black crime lead? Never pased drugs. And than look at the italians, should I say more? One example after another.

Stop making exuses for their actions, it's just the way it is and that's ok. Nobody plays baskeball od dances like a black.

And for Oak

slavery was abolished 1865, so I don't know what the hell are you talking about. I don't care if you guys think white people were bringing them down. For me that's an exuse not to get up of your ass

I'm not making any excuses, only exposing the racist history of America to you. It is what it is, but people don't like to be real about it. You're gonna sit here and tell me you're not racist when you consider black people to essentially be inferior to whites? Come on.

Obviously, you're not the only one that thinks that way. America has had generations of policy makers that believed the same and used their power to further their own agendas. And forgive but I still don't see your point about Obama. So he had a brain only because he was half-white?



No I am not racist, I just call them like I see them. Don't mind black people at all, live close to them and hung out. Just like you guys do, but you gotta be honest. Don't see a full bloded black man becoming president, and he never will..yes he was smarter and more aceptable as a half white..
Like Belmont said, neighbourhoods were a lot safer before the blacks came from the south. Yes there were crime and poverty but not the type of crime you find in the black ghetto's. Imagine not locking your door or taking a midnight walk around Brownswille, Brooklyn. Whould you dare? Even as a black man from the n'hood. Walk down compton ave in south central, etc.
What I'm trying to say is that nowdays, when there is so much equality among races, and after a half white half black prez, blacks still complain that white people keep tham down. It's just stupid. Why don't the whites keep the chinese down?
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 02/21/18 02:28 AM

Belmont, if you've never met an Asian with children out of wedlock, you've clearly never been to the Red Hawk or Thunder Valley casinos outside of Sacramento.

I might recommend that you visit Fresno, Long Beach, or the San Gabriel Valley for more evidence of Asian ghettos. Oh, and how could I forget Garden Grove?

Your romanticized take on Italian-Americans sounds like Lilo Brancato's narration in A Bronx Tale. Fast forward to this century. Jersey Shore and Growing up Gotti.
Real working class heroes.
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 02/21/18 02:36 AM

Originally Posted by alexandarns
slavery was abolished 1865,


Slavery isn't the only form of freedom restriction.

You said black people in America have been free for 150 years. That is just crazy. The Civil Rights Act wasn't even passed until just over 50 years ago. No group of people in this country have enjoyed 150 consecutive years of freedom other than Christian white males.
Posted By: alexandarns

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 02/21/18 02:42 AM

Originally Posted by OakAsFan
Originally Posted by alexandarns
slavery was abolished 1865,


Slavery isn't the only form of freedom restriction.

You said black people in America have been free for 150 years. That is just crazy. The Civil Rights Act wasn't even passed until just over 50 years ago. No group of people in this country have enjoyed 150 consecutive years of freedom other than Christian white males.


Even if it was 200 years from the civil rights act, blacks would still be jobless, lazy, shooting each others, acting like animals and living in ghetto's. Deal with it.
Posted By: RollinBones

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 02/21/18 02:45 AM

Originally Posted by alexandarns
Originally Posted by OakAsFan
Originally Posted by alexandarns
slavery was abolished 1865,


Slavery isn't the only form of freedom restriction.

You said black people in America have been free for 150 years. That is just crazy. The Civil Rights Act wasn't even passed until just over 50 years ago. No group of people in this country have enjoyed 150 consecutive years of freedom other than Christian white males.


Even if it was 200 years from the civil rights act, blacks would still be jobless, lazy, shooting each others, acting like animals and living in ghetto's. Deal with it.

Our resident non-racist, everybody! Do you share your true feelings with your Nigerian friends?
Posted By: alexandarns

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 02/21/18 02:52 AM

Originally Posted by RollinBones
Originally Posted by alexandarns
Originally Posted by OakAsFan
Originally Posted by alexandarns
slavery was abolished 1865,


Slavery isn't the only form of freedom restriction.

You said black people in America have been free for 150 years. That is just crazy. The Civil Rights Act wasn't even passed until just over 50 years ago. No group of people in this country have enjoyed 150 consecutive years of freedom other than Christian white males.


Even if it was 200 years from the civil rights act, blacks would still be jobless, lazy, shooting each others, acting like animals and living in ghetto's. Deal with it.

Our resident non-racist, everybody! Do you share your true feelings with your Nigerian friends?


Of course buddy, we talk all the time. I can't dunk or sing like them, not even close. But you don't hear me putting blame on black folks for stealing all the talent. It's just the way thing are.

No need for anymore name calling, I haven't insulted you once. So lets keep it friendly, okey?
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 02/21/18 02:53 AM

Originally Posted by alexandarns
. Imagine not locking your door or taking a midnight walk around Brownswille, Brooklyn.


Brownsville. lol. Goodfellas, now? Do you have any source material on this topic other than movies?

It was never safe to walk around Brownsville, not even in the 1950's. The local gang would mug you. The wiseguys might pretend to confront the hoods on your behalf, then whack up the money with them as soon as you walk out of the room.

As your boy Sonny would say...Nobody cares. Nobody cares. Now that was one of the few realistic lines in those movies.
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 02/21/18 03:00 AM

Originally Posted by alexandarns
Even if it was 200 years from the civil rights act, blacks would still be jobless, lazy, shooting each others, acting like animals and living in ghetto's. Deal with it.


Oh, you're not a racist at all, are you?
Posted By: alexandarns

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 02/21/18 03:06 AM

Not if you lived in the neighbourhood Oak, try to keep up. Why would I need source material for something as obvious as that. Don't know why are you acting like you don't know what I'm talking about, but have it your way. Go take a walk around Bed stay and let as know how it turned out pal.
No I'm not a racist, I don't care about it just stating my opinion.
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 02/21/18 03:13 AM

How do you know what Brownsville was like in the old days, other than watching the first 20 minutes of Goodfellas?
Posted By: alexandarns

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 02/21/18 03:25 AM

Actually my mothers fam is from Brooklyn, grandfather born in Ocean hill. I've said it a 100 times. Not to mention I read like a 100 reports and stories on the matter. How do you know it wasn't like that, other than being blinded by liberal bull?
Posted By: RollinBones

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 02/21/18 03:33 AM

Originally Posted by alexandarns

Of course buddy, we talk all the time. I can't dunk or sing like them, not even close. But you don't hear me putting blame on black folks for stealing all the talent. It's just the way thing are.

No need for anymore name calling, I haven't insulted you once. So lets keep it friendly, okey?

You're right, no need for that. However I'm simply trying to point out that whether you know it or not, you possess racist tendencies. There are plenty of black people that are not jobless, lazy, criminals, etc. And there are plenty of white people that are. It depends on the person, not the race. Most of it has to do with poverty, a state that black people were intentionally kept in for generations. We're talking about a system of racism that didn't even let black people vote in many states until relatively very recently. That's something the Irish, Italians, Jews, Polish, etc. never had to deal with, along with many other prejudices simply because they were white.

Take for instance your personal views on black people, that they're lazy, jobless, etc. You're gonna pass those views down to your own children who will in turn grow up viewing black people as inferior. You don't think that happens among millions of families in America? It's why racism is ingrained in our society. You can spend all day reading vile comments about black people from the same people who swear they're not racist. They can't see the forest through the trees so to speak.
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 02/21/18 03:35 AM

Originally Posted by alexandarns
Actually my mothers fam is from Brooklyn, grandfather born in Ocean hill. I've said it a 100 times. Not to mention I read like a 100 reports and stories on the matter. How do you know it wasn't like that, other than being blinded by liberal bull?


But you've admittedly never been there, nor were you even alive in the era you're romanticizing. Your entire argument on this thread is based on what you saw in a movie. And you're calling liberals unrealistic?

Let me guess, you know what World War 2 was like, because you saw Saving Private Ryan.
Posted By: alexandarns

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 02/21/18 03:47 AM

Nor were you bro, the hell is wrong with you? My grandfather grow up there as were a bunch of my relatives. It dosen't get closer than that, also there are writen books comering the two periods. I was personally in NYC for 4 years.. that beats you by a hundred, don't know what your point is at all. What movie? The hell is wrong with you Oak...
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 02/21/18 04:05 AM

Yeah, you told me about your grandfather. What does he have to do with you? You have no experience with Brownsville. My Grandfather lived in Chicago. You don't see me going around talking about what it was like in The Patch during Accardo's day.

Also, none of your relatives are from Brownsville. You thought of Brownsville because of Goodfellas, and you know it. Your expertise on Brownsville and how safe the old mob neighborhoods were comes from a movie.
Posted By: BlackFamily

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 02/21/18 05:55 AM

Originally Posted by alexandarns
Originally Posted by BlackFamily
Originally Posted by alexandarns
you are all fighting a lost cause, blacks tend to act like animals more than any other race even the latino race. They didnt get out of the ghettos like any other ethnic group like the jews, irish or italians..They stay and pillage their own neighbourhoods like rabies dogs even after 150 years of freedom and all that has been done for the emantipation of blacks. Obama would never have been president if he wasnt half white, and thats a fact.


You do realized that majority of blacks don't live in the ghetto , Carry themselves like every other American just with extra flavor, have multiple forms of music & creativity, inventions, & oh I'm sorry your not from here. How's the weather over there Cuzzz?



That's not flavor, it's called uncivilized.


Your view of me & my culture is uncivilized rhetoric.
Posted By: BlackFamily

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 02/21/18 05:57 AM

Originally Posted by fatdomgamiello36
Can someone give me the cliff notes of this argument? Is it that the statistical evidence is wrong and there aren't alot of black kids with no fathers or is the argument that it isn't' that bad to have no dad?


Simple.
Out of wedlock doesn't equals absentee father 100%.
Posted By: alexandarns

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 02/21/18 09:27 AM

Originally Posted by OakAsFan
Yeah, you told me about your grandfather. What does he have to do with you? You have no experience with Brownsville. My Grandfather lived in Chicago. You don't see me going around talking about what it was like in The Patch during Accardo's day.

Also, none of your relatives are from Brownsville. You thought of Brownsville because of Goodfellas, and you know it. Your expertise on Brownsville and how safe the old mob neighborhoods were comes from a movie.



Ocean hill is Brownsville Oak, unfortunatly I see you talking lots of things you have no clue about. You stopped making sense a long time ago.
Posted By: Footreads

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 02/21/18 09:45 AM

It is possible to have both a mother and father and be by yourself most of you life until you got married.

That was my situation had trouble with Daddio. Took to many beatings from him so I ran away at 11 did not go back till after he was murdered. I was around 16. Nutty Ma and my brother stayed home and took the beatings that I missed. Ma did not want to live anymore after daddy went to hell.

But man could she cook before she died. That is what I missed most about Ma her cooking.

I have 4 grown up children. Three of whom can’t stay married to the same person. My older brother is a 4 time loser.

I got married a short time after I moved to Brooklyn been happy with her ever since. She was not always happy with me, but she stayed with me that knucklehead.

My friends that are still alive are all divorced. My wife’s friends she has a lot of them have all been married over 50 years I used to hate to go out with them because they feel they have to divide the check I used to someone picking up the check. But they are starting to grow on me.

She has one friend that never remarried after her husband passed away. What a character she is funny and very pretty.

I don’t think people feel the need to be married any more white, black or Chinese.
Posted By: Belmont

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 02/21/18 12:42 PM

This article sums it up well.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/readersrespond/bs-ed-rr-crime-help-20170707-story.html
Posted By: Belmont

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 02/21/18 12:45 PM

Study after study clearly shows that children born into stable, traditional family environments do much better in life than those that dont. The results are abundantly clear. 75% of blacks are born out of wedlock and what a coincidence, blacks are the majority in prison and its not because of laws designed to hold down the black man...lets be real.
There are many intelligent, successful blacks but unfortunately in the black community, they are frowned upon because they use proper english and live a responsible life. Very sad.
Posted By: Giacomo_Vacari

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 02/21/18 01:13 PM

Divorce and out of wedlock are two different things. 75 percent? No way. More like 50 percent. Oh, while on the subject of incarceration, perhaps city schools stop looking like prisons and more like a schools.
Posted By: BlackFamily

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 02/21/18 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by Footreads
It is possible to have both a mother and father and be by yourself most of you life until you got married.

That was my situation had trouble with Daddio. Took to many beatings from him so I ran away at 11 did not go back till after he was murdered. I was around 16. Nutty Ma and my brother stayed home and took the beatings that I missed. Ma did not want to live anymore after daddy went to hell.

But man could she cook before she died. That is what I missed most about Ma her cooking.

I have 4 grown up children. Three of whom can’t stay married to the same person. My older brother is a 4 time loser.

I got married a short time after I moved to Brooklyn been happy with her ever since. She was not always happy with me, but she stayed with me that knucklehead.

My friends that are still alive are all divorced. My wife’s friends she has a lot of them have all been married over 50 years I used to hate to go out with them because they feel they have to divide the check I used to someone picking up the check. But they are starting to grow on me.

She has one friend that never remarried after her husband passed away. What a character she is funny and very pretty.

I don’t think people feel the need to be married any more white, black or Chinese.


You and a few others actually understand it. It's like common sense is a superpower nowadays.
Posted By: Belmont

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 02/21/18 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by Giacomo_Vacari
Divorce and out of wedlock are two different things. 75 percent? No way. More like 50 percent. Oh, while on the subject of incarceration, perhaps city schools stop looking like prisons and more like a schools.


Look at all the data, its about 75% of all blacks born out of wedlock. Its not even debatable, its a fact.

Black Family, some people use heroin and dont get addicted but we all know the chances of being addicts from using heroin increase dramatically if someone uses it. If you are born out of wedlock your chances of being incarcerated and living an unproductive life increase dramatically. Yet knowing this, blacks continue to have out of wedlock kids and refuse to accept responsiblity for these children.
C’mon, wake up already. If blacks get their out of wedlock birth rate down below 35%, we probably wouldnt be having discussions regarding injustice. Enough is enough ! Its like get with the damn program already!!!
Posted By: alexandarns

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 02/21/18 03:45 PM

Originally Posted by Belmont
Originally Posted by Giacomo_Vacari
Divorce and out of wedlock are two different things. 75 percent? No way. More like 50 percent. Oh, while on the subject of incarceration, perhaps city schools stop looking like prisons and more like a schools.


Look at all the data, its about 75% of all blacks born out of wedlock. Its not even debatable, its a fact.

Black Family, some people use heroin and dont get addicted but we all know the chances of being addicts from using heroin increase dramatically if someone uses it. If you are born out of wedlock your chances of being incarcerated and living an unproductive life increase dramatically. Yet knowing this, blacks continue to have out of wedlock kids and refuse to accept responsiblity for these children.
C’mon, wake up already. If blacks get their out of wedlock birth rate down below 35%, we probably wouldnt be having discussions regarding injustice. Enough is enough ! Its like get with the damn program already!!!



Well said Belmont.
Posted By: BlackFamily

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 02/21/18 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by Belmont
Originally Posted by Giacomo_Vacari
Divorce and out of wedlock are two different things. 75 percent? No way. More like 50 percent. Oh, while on the subject of incarceration, perhaps city schools stop looking like prisons and more like a schools.


Look at all the data, its about 75% of all blacks born out of wedlock. Its not even debatable, its a fact.

Black Family, some people use heroin and dont get addicted but we all know the chances of being addicts from using heroin increase dramatically if someone uses it. If you are born out of wedlock your chances of being incarcerated and living an unproductive life increase dramatically. Yet knowing this, blacks continue to have out of wedlock kids and refuse to accept responsiblity for these children.
C’mon, wake up already. If blacks get their out of wedlock birth rate down below 35%, we probably wouldnt be having discussions regarding injustice. Enough is enough ! Its like get with the damn program already!!!


Like I said before I AM one of those out of wedlock babies and know other peers as well. Therefore those chances are not entirely ACCURATE! You keep thinking that's it's a monolithic problem that solves everything is beyond foolish. Stop oversimplifying my community with your ignorance .
Same goes for you to Alexandarns.

You 2 need to get yourselves out of that idealogy . This is why bigotry isn't going anywhere
Posted By: hoodlum

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 02/23/18 03:33 AM

Originally Posted by Belmont
No, im not a troll. I just dont buy into the nonsense you espouse. Its untrue and defies logic.

I really dont want 2 get into this ,but, every thread he starts or is involved in SEEMS 2b racially motivated,not 1 thread from Mr. B.F. has anything 2do w/ O,C,THAT I know of...just sayin'
Posted By: alexandarns

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 02/23/18 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by hoodlum
Originally Posted by Belmont
No, im not a troll. I just dont buy into the nonsense you espouse. Its untrue and defies logic.

I really dont want 2 get into this ,but, every thread he starts or is involved in SEEMS 2b racially motivated,not 1 thread from Mr. B.F. has anything 2do w/ O,C,THAT I know of...just sayin'



He does it all the time.
Posted By: Belmont

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 02/23/18 12:52 PM

Black family
Dont blame us for all the incompetence in your community, we are not the one’s constantly making irresponsible, immature decisions. If black politicians and community leaders were more concerned with doing and saying the right thing for their constituents and less concerned with being “ entertainers” , perhaps some progress would be made.

RollinBones
You make some great points, however, most childrens view on blacks come from the way they are portrayed in the news which shows the extremely high level of violence in their community. They also form their views by simply encountering how blacks live in their own neighborhoods and the way they conduct themselves in public. It doesnt take a 12 year old with a genious IQ to understand the level of incompetence in the black community. Blacks also tend to glorify their way of life on tv shows that young children watch. You dont need a racist parent to indoctrinate their children, blacks are pro’s at doing that on their own.

Im sure shows like the cosby show and the fresh prince were mostly viewd by whites because both shows depicted stable, traditional families. If whites are so racist, why did they embrace both shows? Because most whites related to those shows, thays why. Both shows depicted intelligent blacks usuing proper english and leading responsible lives.
Unfortunately, many blacks call intelligent speaks blacks who live responsible lives “ sell outs”.. wtf !!!!
Apparantly its a badge of honor to use incoherent grammar, rob, sell drugs, carry guns, and have babies without being married and not being able to support a new born child.
I just think the american people are sick and tired of all the excuses.
Posted By: hoodlum

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 02/23/18 05:45 PM

Originally Posted by Belmont
Black family
Dont blame us for all the incompetence in your community, we are not the one’s constantly making irresponsible, immature decisions. If black politicians and community leaders were more concerned with doing and saying the right thing for their constituents and less concerned with being “ entertainers” , perhaps some progress would be made.

RollinBones
You make some great points, however, most childrens view on blacks come from the way they are portrayed in the news which shows the extremely high level of violence in their community. They also form their views by simply encountering how blacks live in their own neighborhoods and the way they conduct themselves in public. It doesnt take a 12 year old with a genious IQ to understand the level of incompetence in the black community. Blacks also tend to glorify their way of life on tv shows that young children watch. You dont need a racist parent to indoctrinate their children, blacks are pro’s at doing that on their own.

Im sure shows like the cosby show and the fresh prince were mostly viewd by whites because both shows depicted stable, traditional families. If whites are so racist, why did they embrace both shows? Because most whites related to those shows, thays why. Both shows depicted intelligent blacks usuing proper english and leading responsible lives.
Unfortunately, many blacks call intelligent speaks blacks who live responsible lives “ sell outs”.. wtf !!!!
Apparantly its a badge of honor to use incoherent grammar, rob, sell drugs, carry guns, and have babies without being married and not being able to support a new born child.
I just think the american people are sick and tired of all the excuses.
100% well said
Posted By: BlackFamily

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 02/23/18 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by alexandarns
Originally Posted by hoodlum
Originally Posted by Belmont
No, im not a troll. I just dont buy into the nonsense you espouse. Its untrue and defies logic.

I really dont want 2 get into this ,but, every thread he starts or is involved in SEEMS 2b racially motivated,not 1 thread from Mr. B.F. has anything 2do w/ O,C,THAT I know of...just sayin'



He does it all the time.


@ Blockheads.

I've been a member of this board since 2012 delivering Black OC content from street gangs to crime syndicates with information that some to most didn't even knew about the content. I immediately notice that when those topics start becoming regular that someone often derail the topic into statstical stereotypical satire. Now ask yourself and please go through ALL my topics and convos " Does Mr.BF goes into all other OC topics bringing in stereotypical satires ?" The answer is no. I read it and move on. I don't be stereotyping anyone's culture on here but BS start with " Blacks & crime" then here comes the " typical" few crying about the same old BS. Again, Y'all are peas in the same pod.
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 02/23/18 05:47 PM

Bill Cosby is a rapist.

Fresh Prince of Bel Air, eh, it was funny. Carlton was hilarious. But the show was corny. Kind of children's entertainment.
Posted By: fergie

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 02/24/18 12:37 AM

I thought we had parked all this shit?
Posted By: blueracing347

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 02/24/18 08:28 AM

Cosby has some interesting things to say about black people.
Posted By: aidanbrexit

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 02/25/18 11:08 PM

Originally Posted by RollinBones
Originally Posted by alexandarns

Of course buddy, we talk all the time. I can't dunk or sing like them, not even close. But you don't hear me putting blame on black folks for stealing all the talent. It's just the way thing are.

No need for anymore name calling, I haven't insulted you once. So lets keep it friendly, okey?

You're right, no need for that. However I'm simply trying to point out that whether you know it or not, you possess racist tendencies. There are plenty of black people that are not jobless, lazy, criminals, etc. And there are plenty of white people that are. It depends on the person, not the race. Most of it has to do with poverty, a state that black people were intentionally kept in for generations. We're talking about a system of racism that didn't even let black people vote in many states until relatively very recently. That's something the Irish, Italians, Jews, Polish, etc. never had to deal with, along with many other prejudices simply because they were white.

Take for instance your personal views on black people, that they're lazy, jobless, etc. You're gonna pass those views down to your own children who will in turn grow up viewing black people as inferior. You don't think that happens among millions of families in America? It's why racism is ingrained in our society. You can spend all day reading vile comments about black people from the same people who swear they're not racist. They can't see the forest through the trees so to speak.


Throw out the pathetic R Card, Doesnt work anymore, pal.
No one cares. The truth Is the truth. That silly word Racist was invented by Marxist Lenin to browbeat whites to stifle tribal cohesion. Its pushed on us by the 'Liberals" or Israelis.
Facts are facts. Blacks dont live or run a single 1st world Nation. They literally are inept to do much of anything.
Someone once said" Give a white man a brick, and he will build you a city. Give a black man a city and he will reduce it to bricks.

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Posted By: alexandarns

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 02/25/18 11:43 PM

Originally Posted by RollinBones
Originally Posted by alexandarns

Of course buddy, we talk all the time. I can't dunk or sing like them, not even close. But you don't hear me putting blame on black folks for stealing all the talent. It's just the way thing are.

No need for anymore name calling, I haven't insulted you once. So lets keep it friendly, okey?

You're right, no need for that. However I'm simply trying to point out that whether you know it or not, you possess racist tendencies. There are plenty of black people that are not jobless, lazy, criminals, etc. And there are plenty of white people that are. It depends on the person, not the race. Most of it has to do with poverty, a state that black people were intentionally kept in for generations. We're talking about a system of racism that didn't even let black people vote in many states until relatively very recently. That's something the Irish, Italians, Jews, Polish, etc. never had to deal with, along with many other prejudices simply because they were white.

Take for instance your personal views on black people, that they're lazy, jobless, etc. You're gonna pass those views down to your own children who will in turn grow up viewing black people as inferior. You don't think that happens among millions of families in America? It's why racism is ingrained in our society. You can spend all day reading vile comments about black people from the same people who swear they're not racist. They can't see the forest through the trees so to speak.



rollin if the Jews havent been kicked around, looked like inferior, locked up in camps for a 1000 years I dont know who has and look where they gotten to. So please dont try to tell me how wrong I am and look how a bad exuse you are making for blacks. Thish one you are def wrong buddy.
Posted By: aidanbrexit

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 02/26/18 12:22 AM

The Family Unit is the backbone of society. Every society.
With a breakdown, the results are horrific. We are seeing and have seen that in our own society with the destruction of societal mores and glue being broken with the disintegration of the family unit. Its horrible.
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 02/26/18 02:45 AM

Originally Posted by aidanbrexit
The Family Unit is the backbone of society. Every society.
With a breakdown, the results are horrific. We are seeing and have seen that in our own society with the destruction of societal mores and glue being broken with the disintegration of the family unit. Its horrible.


No kidding.

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Posted By: BlackFamily

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 02/27/18 05:44 AM

LoL
That must be a new record in BB history. On here for 2 days and already the weakest link.
Posted By: cookcounty

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 02/28/18 12:38 AM

Originally Posted by Belmont
Black family
Dont blame us for all the incompetence in your community, we are not the one’s constantly making irresponsible, immature decisions. If black politicians and community leaders were more concerned with doing and saying the right thing for their constituents and less concerned with being “ entertainers” , perhaps some progress would be made.

RollinBones
You make some great points, however, most childrens view on blacks come from the way they are portrayed in the news which shows the extremely high level of violence in their community. They also form their views by simply encountering how blacks live in their own neighborhoods and the way they conduct themselves in public. It doesnt take a 12 year old with a genious IQ to understand the level of incompetence in the black community. Blacks also tend to glorify their way of life on tv shows that young children watch. You dont need a racist parent to indoctrinate their children, blacks are pro’s at doing that on their own.

Im sure shows like the cosby show and the fresh prince were mostly viewd by whites because both shows depicted stable, traditional families. If whites are so racist, why did they embrace both shows? Because most whites related to those shows, thays why. Both shows depicted intelligent blacks usuing proper english and leading responsible lives.
Unfortunately, many blacks call intelligent speaks blacks who live responsible lives “ sell outs”.. wtf !!!!
Apparantly its a badge of honor to use incoherent grammar, rob, sell drugs, carry guns, and have babies without being married and not being able to support a new born child.
I just think the american people are sick and tired of all the excuses.



you do realize crime is an economic factor?

i went to highschool out of district, literally u can cross one street and all the black kids acted totally different

one side of the street was junior criminals, the other side of the street was future white collar workers, mind u everybody was black

crime occurs because lack of oppurtunities (SCHOOLS, jobs, SCHOOLS, good healthcare, jobs, etc)

you've probably never seen a town or neighborhood of 50k people that literally don't have a grocery store, and i'm not talking about a "food and liqour" joint
Posted By: RollinBones

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 02/28/18 01:01 AM

Originally Posted by alexandarns
Originally Posted by RollinBones
Originally Posted by alexandarns

Of course buddy, we talk all the time. I can't dunk or sing like them, not even close. But you don't hear me putting blame on black folks for stealing all the talent. It's just the way thing are.

No need for anymore name calling, I haven't insulted you once. So lets keep it friendly, okey?

You're right, no need for that. However I'm simply trying to point out that whether you know it or not, you possess racist tendencies. There are plenty of black people that are not jobless, lazy, criminals, etc. And there are plenty of white people that are. It depends on the person, not the race. Most of it has to do with poverty, a state that black people were intentionally kept in for generations. We're talking about a system of racism that didn't even let black people vote in many states until relatively very recently. That's something the Irish, Italians, Jews, Polish, etc. never had to deal with, along with many other prejudices simply because they were white.

Take for instance your personal views on black people, that they're lazy, jobless, etc. You're gonna pass those views down to your own children who will in turn grow up viewing black people as inferior. You don't think that happens among millions of families in America? It's why racism is ingrained in our society. You can spend all day reading vile comments about black people from the same people who swear they're not racist. They can't see the forest through the trees so to speak.



rollin if the Jews havent been kicked around, looked like inferior, locked up in camps for a 1000 years I dont know who has and look where they gotten to. So please dont try to tell me how wrong I am and look how a bad exuse you are making for blacks. Thish one you are def wrong buddy.

I'm wrong for believing that people are fundamentally equal?
Posted By: Aces

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 02/28/18 04:29 AM

Originally Posted by cookcounty
Originally Posted by Belmont
Black family
Dont blame us for all the incompetence in your community, we are not the one’s constantly making irresponsible, immature decisions. If black politicians and community leaders were more concerned with doing and saying the right thing for their constituents and less concerned with being “ entertainers” , perhaps some progress would be made.

RollinBones
You make some great points, however, most childrens view on blacks come from the way they are portrayed in the news which shows the extremely high level of violence in their community. They also form their views by simply encountering how blacks live in their own neighborhoods and the way they conduct themselves in public. It doesnt take a 12 year old with a genious IQ to understand the level of incompetence in the black community. Blacks also tend to glorify their way of life on tv shows that young children watch. You dont need a racist parent to indoctrinate their children, blacks are pro’s at doing that on their own.

Im sure shows like the cosby show and the fresh prince were mostly viewd by whites because both shows depicted stable, traditional families. If whites are so racist, why did they embrace both shows? Because most whites related to those shows, thays why. Both shows depicted intelligent blacks usuing proper english and leading responsible lives.
Unfortunately, many blacks call intelligent speaks blacks who live responsible lives “ sell outs”.. wtf !!!!
Apparantly its a badge of honor to use incoherent grammar, rob, sell drugs, carry guns, and have babies without being married and not being able to support a new born child.
I just think the american people are sick and tired of all the excuses.



you do realize crime is an economic factor?

i went to highschool out of district, literally u can cross one street and all the black kids acted totally different

one side of the street was junior criminals, the other side of the street was future white collar workers, mind u everybody was black

crime occurs because lack of oppurtunities (SCHOOLS, jobs, SCHOOLS, good healthcare, jobs, etc)

you've probably never seen a town or neighborhood of 50k people that literally don't have a grocery store, and i'm not talking about a "food and liqour" joint



Cry me a river cookcounty. They can find jobs, they are out there. So they are poor and cant take care of themselves but yet they have bundles of out of wedlock kids????
Posted By: cookcounty

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 02/28/18 05:09 AM

Originally Posted by Aces
Originally Posted by cookcounty
Originally Posted by Belmont
Black family
Dont blame us for all the incompetence in your community, we are not the one’s constantly making irresponsible, immature decisions. If black politicians and community leaders were more concerned with doing and saying the right thing for their constituents and less concerned with being “ entertainers” , perhaps some progress would be made.

RollinBones
You make some great points, however, most childrens view on blacks come from the way they are portrayed in the news which shows the extremely high level of violence in their community. They also form their views by simply encountering how blacks live in their own neighborhoods and the way they conduct themselves in public. It doesnt take a 12 year old with a genious IQ to understand the level of incompetence in the black community. Blacks also tend to glorify their way of life on tv shows that young children watch. You dont need a racist parent to indoctrinate their children, blacks are pro’s at doing that on their own.

Im sure shows like the cosby show and the fresh prince were mostly viewd by whites because both shows depicted stable, traditional families. If whites are so racist, why did they embrace both shows? Because most whites related to those shows, thays why. Both shows depicted intelligent blacks usuing proper english and leading responsible lives.
Unfortunately, many blacks call intelligent speaks blacks who live responsible lives “ sell outs”.. wtf !!!!
Apparantly its a badge of honor to use incoherent grammar, rob, sell drugs, carry guns, and have babies without being married and not being able to support a new born child.
I just think the american people are sick and tired of all the excuses.



you do realize crime is an economic factor?

i went to highschool out of district, literally u can cross one street and all the black kids acted totally different

one side of the street was junior criminals, the other side of the street was future white collar workers, mind u everybody was black

crime occurs because lack of oppurtunities (SCHOOLS, jobs, SCHOOLS, good healthcare, jobs, etc)

you've probably never seen a town or neighborhood of 50k people that literally don't have a grocery store, and i'm not talking about a "food and liqour" joint



Cry me a river cookcounty. They can find jobs, they are out there. So they are poor and cant take care of themselves but yet they have bundles of out of wedlock kids????



So you avoid the truth just so u can spew some bullshit that u heard somebody else say?

People getting married aint a prerequisite for life

Not too mention the divorce rate gets higher as time passes
Posted By: blueracing347

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 02/28/18 12:27 PM

I watched Boyz in the hood the other night. I thought of this thread. Larry Fishburn said it best. Any fool can have a kid, but it takes a man to raise a kid. It's not just a black problem, it's all over the place. Too many people have kids that shouldn't have kids. You can be pro life all you want, but if you don't have the means to raise a kid, you should put the kid up for adoption or get an abortion and rethink your birth control methods. Tighter gun control laws because it's time. Society should not be supportive of all of the teenage pregnancies or any pregnancy where the child will not have a chance at life.
Posted By: alexandarns

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 02/28/18 12:32 PM

Originally Posted by RollinBones
Originally Posted by alexandarns
Originally Posted by RollinBones
Originally Posted by alexandarns

Of course buddy, we talk all the time. I can't dunk or sing like them, not even close. But you don't hear me putting blame on black folks for stealing all the talent. It's just the way thing are.

No need for anymore name calling, I haven't insulted you once. So lets keep it friendly, okey?

You're right, no need for that. However I'm simply trying to point out that whether you know it or not, you possess racist tendencies. There are plenty of black people that are not jobless, lazy, criminals, etc. And there are plenty of white people that are. It depends on the person, not the race. Most of it has to do with poverty, a state that black people were intentionally kept in for generations. We're talking about a system of racism that didn't even let black people vote in many states until relatively very recently. That's something the Irish, Italians, Jews, Polish, etc. never had to deal with, along with many other prejudices simply because they were white.

Take for instance your personal views on black people, that they're lazy, jobless, etc. You're gonna pass those views down to your own children who will in turn grow up viewing black people as inferior. You don't think that happens among millions of families in America? It's why racism is ingrained in our society. You can spend all day reading vile comments about black people from the same people who swear they're not racist. They can't see the forest through the trees so to speak.



rollin if the Jews havent been kicked around, looked like inferior, locked up in camps for a 1000 years I dont know who has and look where they gotten to. So please dont try to tell me how wrong I am and look how a bad exuse you are making for blacks. Thish one you are def wrong buddy.

I'm wrong for believing that people are fundamentally equal?


No you were wrong in the previous post, stating that only blacks have it tough, when in fact every jew has been though a 1000 times worse through history than blacks, not to mention other peoples So your argument is just an exuse.
Posted By: Aces

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 02/28/18 01:42 PM

Trumps children actually have a father and they know who their father is and they werent born out of wedlock.

Typical black family- a woman has 3-4 kids with 3-4 different men and never marries. This is usually done at a very young age. The kids dont know who the hell their father is. Their siblings come from different fathers. The family has no stability, no discipline.
No father and no family unit that dishes out consequences when they poorly behave.. no consequences!!! No one at home to make sure the kids are behaving in school, doing their homework, and not going out on school nights at 14 years old...the children think this is normal and repeat the same selfish, irresponsible behavior and become poor themselves. What happens, they have out of wedlock kids themselves and usually before they are old enough to legally drink. How the hell does a kid have a shot with that kind of ignorant behavior....??
Do they blame themselves for their irresponsible choices in life?? No, they blame racism...how sad!!! The excuses are endless...
Posted By: BlackFamily

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 02/28/18 04:05 PM

*SIGH*

How hard is it to comprehend that Out-of-Wedlock doesn't equate to "100%" absentee fathers?

In general our country ( The USA) have more than 1/3 of children born out of wedlock. Just look at the numbers people.
Posted By: Aces

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 02/28/18 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackFamily
*SIGH*

How hard is it to comprehend that Out-of-Wedlock doesn't equate to "100%" absentee fathers?

In general our country ( The USA) have more than 1/3 of children born out of wedlock. Just look at the numbers people.


No it doesnt but the majority of kids born out of wedlock dont know their fathers or ever see him. The father usually has other kids with other woman. The mothers usually have other kids with other men as well. Look at some pro athletes for gods sakes.

Statistics clearly show Children of unmarried mothers of any race are much more likely to perform poorly in school, go to prison, use drugs, be poor as adults, and have their own children out of wedlock. Blacks are at almost 75% ... hispanics are second at 53%..
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 02/28/18 09:21 PM

Out-of-wedlock childbirth isn't the problem. A lot of women choose to be single mothers. It's not 1950. There's technology that allows women to get pregnant now without a man. These women do fine with parenting. They get lumped in with statistics involving teenagers and young adults, uneducated, etc, having children out of wedlock, when its in fact these latter factors that are the problem.

The reason a lot of young minority adults have children out of wedlock is because they belong to churches that condemn contraception or abortion. They preach abstinence, which isn't realistic. Sex education being cut back in many inner city schools is a factor, too. It's been proven that schools with sex education have less pregnancies.
Posted By: Aces

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 02/28/18 09:47 PM

Nonsense.. its because the woman spread their legs for every idiot they meet at a club. Gimme a break. They have absolutely no moral compass.dont blame it on church. Im catholic and my church is 100% against abortion and yet my community has an extremely low rate of out of wedlock births. The overwhelming majority of blacks in prison come from unwed mothers.
The overwhelming majority of blacks born into a traditional black family do well in life. Thats a fact.
Posted By: hoodlum

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/01/18 03:12 AM

Originally Posted by blueracing347
I watched Boyz in the hood the other night. I thought of this thread. Larry Fishburn said it best. Any fool can have a kid, but it takes a man to raise a kid. It's not just a black problem, it's all over the place. Too many people have kids that shouldn't have kids. You can be pro life all you want, but if you don't have the means to raise a kid, you should put the kid up for adoption or get an abortion and rethink your birth control methods. Tighter gun control laws because it's time. Society should not be supportive of all of the teenage pregnancies or any pregnancy where the child will not have a chance at life.

Well said blue.
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/01/18 03:28 AM

I'd be willing to bet that Catholics have among the highest percentage of out-of-wedlock births compared to other religions, including atheists. And, it's for the same reason as black out of wedlock births, many of whom are also Catholic. The condemnation of contraception and abortion. Abortion is a very divisive issue, obviously, but contraception should be a no brainer. Any church or institution interfering with the availability of contraception to teenagers is part of the problem. It's also been proven that high schools with sex ed have less pregnancies than those without it. Of course, there are other factors. Schools with sex ed are typically well funded, in middle class areas, where as inner city schools are always put on the chopping block first, and sex ed would typically be one of the first things to go. The black church, very conservative on this issue, only exasperates this by actively lobbying against sex ed. The church is part of the problem. There's just no way around it. We're using 1950's methods to address a 21st century problem, and the results are disastrous.
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/01/18 03:38 AM

Glad someone brought up Boyz N The Hood.

Here's some other quotes by Furious Styles.

"Why is it that there is a gun shop on almost every corner in this community? ....I'll tell you why. For the same reason that there is a liquor store on almost every corner in the black community. Why? They want us to kill ourselves."

(to a black cop) "Something wrong? Yeah. It's just too bad you don't know what it is, 'brother'."

"I know every time you turn on the TV thats what you see, Black People, sellin the rock, pushin the rock, yeah I know. But that wasn't a problem as long as it was here...It wasn't a problem until it was in Iowa on Wall Street where there are hardly any black people."

"Well, how you think the crack rock gets into the country? We don't own any planes. We don't own no ships. We are not the people who are flyin' and floatin' that shit in here."

"It's called gentrification. It's what happens when the property value of a certain area is brought down. You listening? You bring the property value down. They can buy the land at a lower price, then they move all the people out, raise the property value and sell it at a profit. Now, what we need to do is keep everything in our neighborhood, everything - black. Black owned with black money. Just like the Jews, the Italians, the Mexicans and the Koreans do."
Posted By: RollinBones

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/01/18 03:51 AM

Originally Posted by alexandarns

No you were wrong in the previous post, stating that only blacks have it tough, when in fact every jew has been though a 1000 times worse through history than blacks, not to mention other peoples So your argument is just an exuse.

Please quote where I said "only blacks have it tough". That's not what I said nor do I believe that's true so I'm not sure where you picked that up. Honestly I'm a little disappointed that the only thing you have taken away from our conversation is that I think "only black people have it tough". Also, I'm talking about America here, so 1000 years ago is irrelevant.

I know Jewish people have been through a lot, but I was referring to the fact that they had an easier time assimilating in America because at the end of the day, they are white and could pass in mainstream society. Many Jews changed their names and you wouldn't be able to tell them from someone who's family came on the Mayflower. Black people face a racial stigma that can't be avoided in America. That's the truth no matter which way you slice it.
Posted By: BlackFamily

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/01/18 05:50 AM

Originally Posted by Aces
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Originally Posted by BlackFamily
*SIGH*

How hard is it to comprehend that Out-of-Wedlock doesn't equate to "100%" absentee fathers?

In general our country ( The USA) have more than 1/3 of children born out of wedlock. Just look at the numbers people.


No it doesnt but the majority of kids born out of wedlock dont know their fathers or ever see him. The father usually has other kids with other woman. The mothers usually have other kids with other men as well. Look at some pro athletes for gods sakes.

Statistics clearly show Children of unmarried mothers of any race are much more likely to perform poorly in school, go to prison, use drugs, be poor as adults, and have their own children out of wedlock. Blacks are at almost 75% ... hispanics are second at 53%..


Again. That narrative have been push for decades when in fact it's a small percentage that absolutely don't know nor meet their fathers. Half siblings aren't nothing exclusive to the Black community and MEN in general have multiple sex partners in their lifetime. Looking at ( Black since I know your not talking about non black) pro athletes is a poor example and bias selection.

Statistics also goes in-depth into breakdown percentages and also includes core numbers too. Another factor about stats is that it's fluid in nature and not set in stone. There's as much troublesome children from 2 parents ( regardless if married or unmarried) homes.

But I guess the next response still will be look at the percentages and rates for the umpthteen time huh.
Posted By: Aces

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/01/18 02:43 PM

You are again being less than truthful here. Of course there are troubled children from married couples. However, the percentage of troubled children from out of wedlock births FAR exceed those from a traditional family on a relative basis..its not even close.
Lets look at the homicides in chicago. I would bet that well over 90% of those perps are out of wedlock kids, no doubt. They are also black males: the majority. . why is that? No discipline and no consequences in the household. That is LAZY, irresponsible parenting. A single mom just cant control her kids nearly as well as a traditional family unit. Thats a fact.
The simple fact is young black males are running wild in our streets and commiting violent crime. That is undisputed.
Again, there are violent criminals from traditional families ( black and white) but not even close to those out of wedlock black males. its an epidemic and keeps getting worse because no one in the black community wants to stop it, it takes too much work.
Its so much easier to just make excuses.
To add insult to injury, these single moms give their children totally absurd names that have absolutely no meaning...
Kevar, LeVar, LeVan, Revan, Trevan, trevar, deAngelo, devanti, Lebron.. what the fuck!!! at least give them an african name that has meaning, give the kid a sense of identity and meaning for gods sakes.... what is up with these silly names? It makes them sound ignorant and they arent taken seriously. I just dont get it and never will.
Dont even get me started on the made up girls names...
It is rather amusing when they change their names to muslim sounding names but never step foot in a mosque.
Posted By: BlackFamily

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/01/18 04:21 PM

@Ace

How am I being less truthful? Earlier I just stayed that children born out of wedlock makes up around 1/3 or more. This informationcan be found at the CDC website.

No. We're speaking on Out of wedlock case not homicides and everybody for goodness sake stop falling back on that as an example. Your getting off topic and making another bias selection. Furthermore unless you pull up all the Black homicide victims background and discover your theory is inaccurate then your just make an additional excuse.

What does naming a child have to do with the topic? There are many names from within this country and around the world that will scratch your head.

The fact is you and others have a tarnish "view" of a culture that isn't to your liking. The more we speak on it the more you just repeat the same rhetoric: Blacks needs to do this, that, etc. Or look at the percentages and rates or what's wrong with [ input a nitpicking issue].

Notice as the next comments will still in one fashion or another spin back to decades old rehash narrative.
Posted By: cookcounty

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/01/18 05:14 PM

Originally Posted by Aces
You are again being less than truthful here. Of course there are troubled children from married couples. However, the percentage of troubled children from out of wedlock births FAR exceed those from a traditional family on a relative basis..its not even close.
Lets look at the homicides in chicago. I would bet that well over 90% of those perps are out of wedlock kids, no doubt. They are also black males: the majority. . why is that? No discipline and no consequences in the household. That is LAZY, irresponsible parenting. A single mom just cant control her kids nearly as well as a traditional family unit. Thats a fact.
The simple fact is young black males are running wild in our streets and commiting violent crime. That is undisputed.
Again, there are violent criminals from traditional families ( black and white) but not even close to those out of wedlock black males. its an epidemic and keeps getting worse because no one in the black community wants to stop it, it takes too much work.
Its so much easier to just make excuses.
To add insult to injury, these single moms give their children totally absurd names that have absolutely no meaning...
Kevar, LeVar, LeVan, Revan, Trevan, trevar, deAngelo, devanti, Lebron.. what the fuck!!! at least give them an african name that has meaning, give the kid a sense of identity and meaning for gods sakes.... what is up with these silly names? It makes them sound ignorant and they arent taken seriously. I just dont get it and never will.
Dont even get me started on the made up girls names...
It is rather amusing when they change their names to muslim sounding names but never step foot in a mosque.



there are more mexicans in chicago than black people now-a-days

you're on a mafia crime forum talking disparaging about black crime, that's extremely hypocritical

american names don't mean a good goddamn thing

you got so enraged that you're not even sticking to the subject, grow some balls and just say that u hate black people
Posted By: olivant

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/01/18 05:25 PM

I think Sarah Silverman hit the nail on the head:

"Everybody blames the Jews for killing Christ, and then the Jews try to pass it off on the Romans. I'm one of the few people that believe it was the blacks."
Posted By: Aces

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/01/18 08:45 PM

The majority of violent crime in the US is commited by blacks.. thats a fact. Why is that? There is something seriously wrong with that culture. These blacks kids desparately need fathers in the household enforcing rules.
I remember when mississippi, tennesee, and other southern states had beautiful, wholesome back country towns. Now they are small ghettos’s with violent crime. What a shame !
Posted By: Footreads

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/01/18 08:51 PM

Aces if what you say is true. Isnt black crime over whelmingly against other blacks?
Posted By: Footreads

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/01/18 08:54 PM

I think on average the divorce rate is much higher then it ever was when I was a kid. So does that mean the fatherless population is less now for all colors not just blacks. That tells me kids of all colors have a higher crime rate then ever before yes or no?
Posted By: hoodlum

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/01/18 09:54 PM

Originally Posted by OakAsFan
I'd be willing to bet that Catholics have among the highest percentage of out-of-wedlock births compared to other religions, including atheists. And, it's for the same reason as black out of wedlock births, many of whom are also Catholic. The condemnation of contraception and abortion. Abortion is a very divisive issue, obviously, but contraception should be a no brainer. Any church or institution interfering with the availability of contraception to teenagers is part of the problem. It's also been proven that high schools with sex ed have less pregnancies than those without it. Of course, there are other factors. Schools with sex ed are typically well funded, in middle class areas, where as inner city schools are always put on the chopping block first, and sex ed would typically be one of the first things to go. The black church, very conservative on this issue, only exasperates this by actively lobbying against sex ed. The church is part of the problem. There's just no way around it. We're using 1950's methods to address a 21st century problem, and the results are disastrous.

Oh geez Oak, any PRACTICING GOOD Catholic would not have sex in the 1rst place b-4 marriage if they follow what they are taught in Parochial School, at least back in my day, I myself went 2 Catholic school 4 the 1rst 8 yrs. & do occasionally attend church, but even though I was raised in a strict Irish Catholic family,I don't consider myself a fiercely devoted Catholic,& I am ashamed 2 admit I was party to 3 abortions,because as a youth who headed down a wrong path,& made some mistakes,I figured if I can't take care of myself, how am I able 2 take care of a child. Selfish young thinking, & also because I was also VERY promiscuous & careless in my teens & 20s & the fact that I was in a heavy metal band in the 80s when that genre was at it's height did not help. U cant really blame the church, blame the INDIVIDUAL...and I know a million Catholics & can't think of 1 who had a child out of wedlock.
Posted By: blueracing347

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/01/18 11:04 PM

"I'm an African American!" Oh yeah? What are part of Africa are your people from? The fact of the matter is that from the beginning of blacks coming to America was only partially because of the white man. Those tribal messes weren't battling to keep their people in the jungles. They had them lined up and ready to go when the slave traders showed up. "White, Caucasian offends me. I'm a italian, Irish, Dutch, Germans American!" Get the fuck out of here.
Posted By: BlackFamily

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/02/18 01:46 AM

And my point is still proven.

[ Facepalm]
Posted By: cookcounty

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/02/18 04:25 AM

@aces

The majority of rapes and child molestation are committed by white males....a violent crime


@blueracing

What the flying fuck does africa have to do with this thread

What part of italy, ireland, dutch and germany are your people from?

Alot of people believe black people were already in america before the slave trade
Posted By: blueracing347

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/02/18 04:41 AM

Lol. I felt it was appropriate. I don't go around saying that because Im from the USA. But this absent black father thing shouldn't just be pinned on the blacks. Any kid with an absent father, regardless of race, starts off with a disadvantage. It's obvious that there are many kids who have Fucked up home lives. All races belong in this category. Stop pointing the finger and come up with solutions. And if a solution is created and the blacks are the only race that still have Fucked up families, resume pointing the finger.
Posted By: Footreads

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/02/18 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by OakAsFan
Originally Posted by aidanbrexit
The Family Unit is the backbone of society. Every society.
With a breakdown, the results are horrific. We are seeing and have seen that in our own society with the destruction of societal mores and glue being broken with the disintegration of the family unit. Its horrible.


No kidding.

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So oak what do you think about his 12 yr old son Baron? I bet you hate him too.
Posted By: Aces

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/02/18 02:39 PM

Black family and his alias know the truth but wont admit it.
Fact- all kids, white or black who are born out of wedlock have a MUCH HIGHER chance of going to prison and being poor than a child born into a traditional family unit.
Fact- almost 75% of all Blacks are born out of wedlock and they commit the most violent crime by far and are the majority in prisons. Out of wedlock births are a way of life in the black community. Think about it; you ask a black kid who his father is and he replies: “ i dont know, some guy my mom met in a club”. Mean while his siblings all have different fathers, its down right sleazy.
Agan, BLACKS ARE BORN OUT OF WEDLOCK AT A MUCH HIGHER RATE THAN WHITES AND EVEN HISPANICS WHO ARE AT 52% which is still bad, im not letting the hispanics off the hook on this either. Im not referring to spaniards from spain who are great people and lead responsible lives.
Posted By: Footreads

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/02/18 02:48 PM


[quote=cookcounty]@aces

The majority of rapes and child molestation are committed by white males.”

Add to that boys are attacked by white and black homosexuals.
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/03/18 01:51 AM

Too much focus on race.

Not enough on religion.

Organized religion, particularly Christianity, is more to blame for out of wedlock births in this country than anything. Their solution to teen pregnancy is unrealistic, impractical, and rooted in dated, misogynistic customs.
Posted By: Aces

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/03/18 03:44 AM

Originally Posted by OakAsFan
Too much focus on race.

Not enough on religion.

Organized religion, particularly Christianity, is more to blame for out of wedlock births in this country than anything. Their solution to teen pregnancy is unrealistic, impractical, and rooted in dated, misogynistic customs.


Thats an idiotic statement as usual and quite frankly, i dont believe that you really think that. Blacks commit the majority of violent crime whereas white christians dont. White christians have a very low out of wedlock birth rate wheres blacks have the absolute highest out of wedlock birth rate. Its obviously all about race. Black communities are known for violent, irresponsible behavior. Its the black culture. The only ones that can and should fix it are blacks themselves, not responsible people who do the right thing.
Posted By: cookcounty

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/03/18 09:38 PM

Originally Posted by Aces
Originally Posted by OakAsFan
Too much focus on race.

Not enough on religion.

Organized religion, particularly Christianity, is more to blame for out of wedlock births in this country than anything. Their solution to teen pregnancy is unrealistic, impractical, and rooted in dated, misogynistic customs.


Thats an idiotic statement as usual and quite frankly, i dont believe that you really think that. Blacks commit the majority of violent crime whereas white christians dont. White christians have a very low out of wedlock birth rate wheres blacks have the absolute highest out of wedlock birth rate. Its obviously all about race. Black communities are known for violent, irresponsible behavior. Its the black culture. The only ones that can and should fix it are blacks themselves, not responsible people who do the right thing.



Blacks dont commit the majority of rapes and child molestation

That's probably a topic that u dont discuss
Posted By: Aces

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/03/18 09:44 PM

You are deviating from the topic...blacks commit the overwhelming majority of violent crime in the US. Black neighborhoods are the most dangerous and violent in the US by far. Out of wedlock kids gone wild!!!!
Posted By: cookcounty

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/03/18 10:00 PM

Originally Posted by Aces
You are deviating from the topic...blacks commit the overwhelming majority of violent crime in the US. Black neighborhoods are the most dangerous and violent in the US by far. Out of wedlock kids gone wild!!!!



This topic aint about crime

What about the people that had married parents and still rape women and children (male or female)
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/04/18 12:03 AM

At least Aces has faith that black people can fix their communities.

He can't be all that bad...
Posted By: cookcounty

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/04/18 02:03 AM

^^^^

You're right if thats the case, and i do mean if thats the case
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/04/18 02:39 AM

Well, he first said that black people are culturally violent, then went on to say that they can change their own community. He seems to be conflicted. There's hope with him. The Aces....are split.

You're welcome.
Posted By: Aces

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/04/18 03:43 AM

Originally Posted by OakAsFan
Well, he first said that black people are culturally violent, then went on to say that they can change their own community. He seems to be conflicted. There's hope with him. The Aces....are split.

You're welcome.


I said their culture is violent and irresponsible. Rather than split aces, how bout i split spades.
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/04/18 04:01 AM

Originally Posted by Aces
their culture is violent


Quote
how bout i split spades.
Posted By: thedudeabides87

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/04/18 10:51 AM

[BlackFamily]

How hard is it to comprehend that Out-of-Wedlock doesn't equate to "100%" absentee [/quote]

Kind of sad that people automaically think that in every case that the father just not involved in the child's life (is this of every race?)

Same kind of people will say Trump supporter does not 100% equal racist

Unfortunately we have so much bullsh*t engrained in us by identity politics it's hard for people to critically think sometimes

[Cookcounty]
People getting married aint a prerequisite for life[/quote]

People have been brainwashed into this way of thinking. You dont need to pay the the government and get permission from a religious institution in order to be considered a legitimate couple
Posted By: Aces

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/04/18 03:27 PM

“How hard is it to comprehend that Out-of-Wedlock doesn't equate to "100%" absentee ”

Again, you are distorting what i said. Most out of wedlock kids do NOT have a relationship with their fathers. Thats a fact.
Most black children are born out of wedlock. Most of those born out of wedlock kids dont have relationships with their fathers.
Posted By: Turnbull

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/04/18 04:50 PM

My hometown has a population of ~45,000, of whom only 0.5% are black. The local paper lists the week's births on Sunday, along with pictures of the infants. About three-quarters of the parents listed aren't married, and about half of those list only the mother. All of them are white.
Posted By: Aces

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/04/18 06:11 PM

Originally Posted by Turnbull
My hometown has a population of ~45,000, of whom only 0.5% are black. The local paper lists the week's births on Sunday, along with pictures of the infants. About three-quarters of the parents listed aren't married, and about half of those list only the mother. All of them are white.


Turnbull, unfortunately thats reality and a common problem throughout black communities in the US. 75% out of wedlock births in the black community is unacceptable bahavior. Guess who pays for that?? Hard working tax payers. We also have much higher rates of violent crime and poverty because of it. Its a tragedy.
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/04/18 08:00 PM

Aces, it's good to know you care. I think we all appreciate your concern for the black community, and your wishes for it to improve. Is there anything else?
Posted By: blueracing347

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/05/18 01:42 AM

Mandatory vasectomy at a certain age. If you really want a kid, you fill out an application, like a mortgage, if approved, they pay for their sperm to be aspirated. If you can't feed them don't breed them! Is this a contributing factor to why some lower class people can't get ahead. Dumb fucks can't take care of themselves but for some odd reason they think they can afford one or more mouths to feed.
Posted By: thedudeabides87

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/05/18 02:19 AM

Compulsory sterilization who pays for it? Why not mandatory hysterectomy after 2 children why do i have to be forced into surgery?

Asking government permission to have children, sounds like liberty to me
Posted By: blueracing347

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/05/18 02:56 AM

Hysterectomy after two kids doesn't fix the kids having kids. I'm talking about 14/15 year olds. Why men? Because women have had the option of the pill for how long? I wish there was a pill I could've taken once a day to insure I'm not going to get anyone pregnant. It's $500, & takes all of twenty minutes. Two tiny little punctures, clampity clamp, go home with a jock support, no ejaculating for a few days, and then you can get back to business. Who pays for all these kids now? It's great if you want to have a big family, but if you don't have the means to support it that's not fair to society and most importantly the child.
Posted By: cookcounty

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/05/18 04:40 AM

Originally Posted by Aces
Originally Posted by Turnbull
My hometown has a population of ~45,000, of whom only 0.5% are black. The local paper lists the week's births on Sunday, along with pictures of the infants. About three-quarters of the parents listed aren't married, and about half of those list only the mother. All of them are white.


Turnbull, unfortunately thats reality and a common problem throughout black communities in the US. 75% out of wedlock births in the black community is unacceptable bahavior. Guess who pays for that?? Hard working tax payers. We also have much higher rates of violent crime and poverty because of it. Its a tragedy.



He was giving u an example of how white people have kids outta wedlock nowadays

U should be talking about funding schools n the black community

Thats if u were talking about solving problems
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/05/18 05:13 AM

Some people believe they have to start a family and have children, no matter how poor they are, because that's what God wants.
Posted By: thedudeabides87

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/05/18 10:19 AM

And what happens if I reach the age and I say I don't want to have "two tiny little punctures, clampity clamp" am i arrested sent to prison? Maybe arrested and brought to a hospital where I am forced to have surgery and then thrown in jail. Tax penalty? That thing we all hate the affordable health care for

Is anyone exempt from this mandatory sterilization? Religious reasons? Perfect genetics? The right tax bracket?

75 billion (male population is 150 million according to 2010 concensus) in tax payer money could be used in a much wiser way


I don't want to pay for other people's kids or women's abortions why would I want to pay for some random guys sterilization

While we're at it why don't we sterilize men who genetic traits we don't like
Posted By: Aces

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/05/18 01:00 PM

“He was giving u an example of how white people have kids outta wedlock nowadays

U should be talking about funding schools n the black community

Thats if u were talking about solving problems”

I said white people may have kids out of wedlock but not nearly to the degree of blacks. Blacks have almost triple the amount of out of wedlock births compared to whites.
Fund schools in the black community?? We do that already and a lot of money goes into that. Our tax dollars. The money gets wasted because of corruption in the black community by so called “ community leaders”. A great example is Newark NJ, not only do tax dollars go into the black school system but Mark Zuckerberg( facebook ceo ) donated millions of dollars and what were the results??? Nothing!!!!!
more importantly, when you DONT have a stable, traditional family with a father in the home making sure their kids are doing their homework, making sure their kids are respecting teachers, making sure their kids arent hanging out on the streets on school nights, and making sure the kids understand their school work; all the money in the world does nothing to a black school system. Everything starts at home and thats where the black community fails miserably.
Posted By: blueracing347

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/05/18 01:22 PM

I'm sorry Dude. I'm just coming up with solutions to a problem. You just like to argue. If you really want a kid, although you've had a vasectomy you can still have a child. A big flaw with this solution now that I think about it, would be the increase of unprotected sex with the possible increase of std's. Regardless, I know I'm not part of the problem. My parents raised me right. And now my wife and I raise our kids in a traditional manner. Our jobs allow us to make sure someone is always with the kids rather than some stranger. Everyday I pick them up from the bus stop, have a snack, and do homework together. It takes time to sit there with them and make sure they understand what they're doing. I went to a school function the other night and I was appalled at what I saw. There wasn't one black kid, but there were a lot of families with three or four kids. Just like the parents, the kids were dressed in rags and just looked dirty. I saw this area that said free food, I went over and what it was packages of free meals something they would do for the homeless. People had kiddy wind filled with these voices. I felt bad for those little kids. I thought they don't stand a chance. To add to the dirty look, these kids were like a bunch of animals. The parents yelling at them and they didn't pay attention until they were yoked. It was for Dr. Seuss' birthday none the less. No Fucking respect.
Posted By: thedudeabides87

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/05/18 02:34 PM

No reason to apologize if more people raised kids they way you say you do maybe we wouldn't have so many problems unfortunately not everyone's has the means but it shouldn't be an excuse to be a bad parent.

Another solution: Let people sink or swim, of you make a choice you need to deal with the consequences without burdening other people. Definitely not a collectivist solution

Liberty, free association, small government are what I'm big on so when see someone pushing big government I have to question it
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/05/18 04:30 PM

Thanks again, Aces. Your concern for the black community is insurmountable. A lot of white people couldn't care less about problems facing the black community. It's clearly an emotional issue for you. You want something done. I think everyone appreciates your compassion.
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/05/18 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by thedudeabides87
Another solution: Let people sink or swim


So, don't change a thing, basically.
Posted By: Aces

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/05/18 07:38 PM

Originally Posted by OakAsFan
Originally Posted by thedudeabides87
Another solution: Let people sink or swim


So, don't change a thing, basically.


No, the blacks need to change their irresponsible behavior. Once thats done, they will move up the socio-economic ladder. Its up to them to realize and admit their issues and then finally, they need to actually do something about it.
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/05/18 08:07 PM

Aces, thanks again for your unwavering concern for the black community. Your passion for this issue is truly inspiring.
Posted By: blueracing347

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/05/18 08:50 PM

I was watching Fox news yesterday afternoon and I thought to myself: I'm so sick of hearing about left and the right and all of these bullshit problems, Americans are getting in the way of Americans making progress. Instead of what Trump tweeted or some other bullshit the left comes up with this week, why don't they go and explore these impoverished city's around our country. Similar to what live pd does. Pick a few of the worst places in the USA and shed light on how it really is. An article can depict areas with words, but live footage on everyday life would tell all." I despise people that don't try hard to get ahead or make up excuses for their lives being how shitty they are. I'm all for everyone getting ahead and having a comfortable life. But if you're born an American citizen and you can't get out of your own way. Get the fuck out of here. There are many successful people belonging to a minority. What I don't get is why it appears that black people as a whole can't get passed the 1960's?
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/05/18 08:52 PM

Black people can't get past the 1960's.

Conservative whites can't get past the 1950s.

Black people are ahead by 10 years.
Posted By: cookcounty

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/05/18 08:59 PM

Originally Posted by OakAsFan
Black people can't get past the 1960's.

Conservative whites can't get past the 1950s.

Black people are ahead by 10 years.



Im not even supposed to agree with this in public as a black man

But u pretty much nailed this on the head
Posted By: Aces

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/05/18 10:09 PM

Originally Posted by OakAsFan
Black people can't get past the 1960's.

Conservative whites can't get past the 1950s.

Black people are ahead by 10 years.


I think you meant to say : Blacks can’t get past the 1860’s. Whites are ahead by 90 years.
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/05/18 10:47 PM

Cook, from my experiences, black people are living in the future. I don't know one black person who wants to go back to the past.
Posted By: Aces

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/05/18 11:13 PM

Originally Posted by OakAsFan
Black people can't get past the 1960's.

Conservative whites can't get past the 1950s.

Black people are ahead by 10 years.


Blacks cant get past the 6th grade...lol
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/05/18 11:19 PM

Even if that were true, then it would sound like the educational system needs vast improvements.
Posted By: blueracing347

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/05/18 11:58 PM

Got it now. They got so far ahead that that's why they don't want to work now. I couldn't resist. There's oaks usual rhetoric. He can comment but lacks solution.
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/06/18 12:21 AM

I just gave a solution in the previous comment. We need better education in this country, across the board. All races. The president is proof of it. Intellectualism is dying in this country. The great comedian Bill Hicks once said that he was reading a book in a Texas diner one night, and when the waitress approached to take his order, she asked, "why are you reading?". ....As if reading is a behavior which needs to be explained. He says it was that moment he knew the country was getting incredibly stupid.
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/06/18 12:25 AM

Our president lives on fast food. That's ghetto as hell.
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/06/18 12:26 AM

President has like 5 kids with like 3 different baby's mamas.
Posted By: Aces

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/06/18 01:26 AM

Originally Posted by OakAsFan
President has like 5 kids with like 3 different baby's mamas.


Baby mama’s!!!!what !!, he married those women. He also made sure his kids were properly educated and you never hear anything negative about those kids.
Unlike the black ghetto girls who concieve on the roof of a building with some guy they met at a club. ...
You are purposely trying to sound ridiculous.
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/06/18 01:45 AM

Trump's are still pretty ghetto.
Posted By: Aces

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/06/18 08:43 PM

Originally Posted by OakAsFan
Trump's are still pretty ghetto.


They all speak very well and conduct themselves extremely well opposed to Lebron James and Kevin Durant who cant even put to words together.
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/06/18 09:58 PM

Don't disrespect Lebron and KD. Those are successful, grown men with class you're talking about. The Trumps are a hot mess. Donald is attracted to his daughter. Ewww. None of those kids have the same parents. Melania's a mail order bride.
Posted By: cookcounty

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/06/18 11:39 PM

Originally Posted by Aces
Originally Posted by OakAsFan
Trump's are still pretty ghetto.


They all speak very well and conduct themselves extremely well opposed to Lebron James and Kevin Durant who cant even put to words together.



You mean the first lady that used to work in a russian brothel? The one that plagiarized a michelle obama speech?

Lebron and KD are bad examples to use if u want to illustrate an ignorant black man

The fact that you're ok with donald trumps unqualified kids being in the white house is troubling
Posted By: Aces

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/07/18 02:05 AM

Lebron and durant cant even speak proper english and put a simple sentence together. They know absolutely nothing about politics, the economy, national or international affairs. They are two shit heads that get paid millions to bounce a friggin ball. Give me a break.
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/07/18 02:33 AM

These are successful, grown men you are talking about. Show some respect. The Trump family, on the other hand, looks like they were escorted to the White House in a Jerry Springer shuttle.
Posted By: Aces

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/07/18 03:03 AM

Donald trump jr went to the wharton school of business and runs a billion dollar company. Donald trump senior is a billionaire and is the president of the united states.
Lebron james barely finished high school and bounces a ball for a living. Lebron and kevin durant have a combined IQ of maybe 45 on a good day. Two rocket scientists who cant speak proper english and probably think africa is in california.
Personally i think its hilarious when lebron james tries to sound sophisticated and talks about things in which he knows nothing about. Which pretty much encompasses everything except basketball.
By the way, those two brain dead morons were born out of wedlock.
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/07/18 03:14 AM

I know. It's just funny how the Trumps are so educated and so rich and still ended up being this ghetto.
Posted By: cookcounty

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/07/18 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by Aces
Donald trump jr went to the wharton school of business and runs a billion dollar company. Donald trump senior is a billionaire and is the president of the united states.
Lebron james barely finished high school and bounces a ball for a living. Lebron and kevin durant have a combined IQ of maybe 45 on a good day. Two rocket scientists who cant speak proper english and probably think africa is in california.
Personally i think its hilarious when lebron james tries to sound sophisticated and talks about things in which he knows nothing about. Which pretty much encompasses everything except basketball.
By the way, those two brain dead morons were born out of wedlock.



Donald trump and his dumb ass son were born into money, they didn't make it by themselves

Trump has the single most dysfunctional white house in history, its not surprising since he has no business being there

Not too mention all of his people are crooks that keep getting indicted by the feds
Posted By: Aces

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/07/18 06:13 PM

With all the money the Trump kids had, you never heard anything negative about them. They are all respectable kids despite coming from money. As for Donald sr, he turned a million bucks into billions. The man is a machine.

Oakasfan and cookcounty and blackfamily
As a punishment, i may ask lebron james and kevin durant to teach your kids math... they just wrote a book called “2 + 2= 30..”
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/07/18 07:39 PM

Why are you insulting LeBron and KD? Who hates them, other than racists? They're role models. Two successful people with class.
Posted By: Aces

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/07/18 08:02 PM

Role models ??? To who ???? Those two knuckleheads cant even speak proper english yet they make millions.
I cant wat til Lebron says something almost intelligent. Hopefully im alive in another 50 years to hear it.

Actually i think lebron is a good role model. He does go to different communities and devotes a lot of time to kids. aside from talking about shit he knows nothing about, he seems like a good dude and is an exceptional athlete.
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/07/18 08:21 PM

Kevin and Lebron are good peeps. Put some respect on their names.
Posted By: blueracing347

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/07/18 10:49 PM

I'm pretty sure it was LeBron James who was posting a video while getting a police escort to a Justin Timberlake concert. If I recall correctly that cop got in some serious trouble.
Regardless of how much those two basketball players are worth, it's peanuts compared to Trump. And I'm going to agree with Aces about the Trump kids. They're all close to him, well educated, well spoken, and successful. Warren Sapp can't afford to pay all of his child support and then the dumb fuck loses his comfy nfl job over some prostitute.
Posted By: blueracing347

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/07/18 10:56 PM

When I came home yesterday I had a note from my kids teacher praising me for helping my boy with his homework. That was a good feeling. I tried to post it but it says it's too big of a file like any other picture I take and want to post on here.
Posted By: DuesPaid

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/08/18 02:38 AM

Originally Posted by blueracing347
When I came home yesterday I had a note from my kids teacher praising me for helping my boy with his homework. That was a good feeling. I tried to post it but it says it's too big of a file like any other picture I take and want to post on here.



Very nice.

I had probs posting pics too.

I think photobucket works, try that.
It will make a link you can copy and paste.
Posted By: Aces

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/08/18 02:47 AM

Originally Posted by blueracing347
When I came home yesterday I had a note from my kids teacher praising me for helping my boy with his homework. That was a good feeling. I tried to post it but it says it's too big of a file like any other picture I take and want to post on here.


Excellent blueracing !!! Being a dad is the most important job in the world. What you did will pay more dividends than any other investment.
Posted By: cookcounty

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/08/18 03:04 AM

Originally Posted by Aces
Role models ??? To who ???? Those two knuckleheads cant even speak proper english yet they make millions.
I cant wat til Lebron says something almost intelligent. Hopefully im alive in another 50 years to hear it.

Actually i think lebron is a good role model. He does go to different communities and devotes a lot of time to kids. aside from talking about shit he knows nothing about, he seems like a good dude and is an exceptional athlete.



The first lady is sort of a role model

First started in a filthy brothel, then became a mail order bride, and now shes in the white house

Thats progress
Posted By: Aces

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/08/18 03:23 AM

Cookcounty
Shut up and dribble.. lol
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/08/18 03:23 AM

Trump got a note from a teacher praising him for helping his kids with his homework. Of course it's from Trump University. And he was the teacher who wrote the letter to himself. But, a letter's a letter. Good job, Donald. After all, being a dad is the most important job in the world, and it's especially challenging when you're married and having an affair with a porn star.
Posted By: Aces

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/08/18 02:43 PM

All powerful men have affairs. Look at kennedy.. look at martin luther king.
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/08/18 07:33 PM

Don't talk about MLK like that. The man was a dignitary and leader. Those rumors were started by Abernathy in his cash grab book.
Posted By: helenwheels

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/08/18 07:46 PM

Nobody cares about affairs (except the religious right and people still carrying on over Clinton's blow job)...but hush money payoffs, if they came from campaign funds, are a felony.

The bank reported the payment to the treasury dept as 'suspicious'.They wouldn’t care if the payment was seedy. But they would care if it was laundered.

Thats exactly how they exposed Hastert.


I'm glad this came out, if adultery is now ok in politicians we don't have to hear the fake moralizing anymore from the pearl clutchers.
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/08/18 08:08 PM

MLK affairs are b.s. anyway. Ralph Abernathy made the claim in a sleazy book. Snopes officially has it classified as "Not Likely".

Kennedy. lol. The '60s.

Donald Trump's freak show is happening today!
Posted By: Aces

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/08/18 08:29 PM

Its a well known fact that MLK was a big time womanizer who had extramarital affairs. Jesse jackson is another one.
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/08/18 10:32 PM

A rumor started by one person who wrote a sleazy book for cash. You can put Donald Trump and all of his supporters together and you don't have half the man that Martin Luther King Jr. was.
Posted By: Aces

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/08/18 11:04 PM

Oakasfan
It was not only a rumor, it was true. MLK was a big time womanizer and more power to him. Jesse Jackson has the morals of an alley cat.
Posted By: hoodlum

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/08/18 11:51 PM

Originally Posted by OakAsFan
These are successful, grown men you are talking about. Show some respect. The Trump family, on the other hand, looks like they were escorted to the White House in a Jerry Springer shuttle.

This thread is starting 2 sound like a Jerry Springer show...but I have my popcorn & enjoying the banter.
Posted By: cookcounty

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/09/18 01:04 AM

Originally Posted by Aces
Cookcounty
Shut up and dribble.. lol


I dont know any black males that doesn't take care of their kids

Posted By: Aces

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/09/18 04:27 AM

Originally Posted by cookcounty
Originally Posted by Aces
Cookcounty
Shut up and dribble.. lol


I dont know any black males that doesn't take care of their kids



In other words, you dont know any black males.
Posted By: BlackFamily

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/09/18 05:33 PM

I'm back after a fun trip. I see this is still ongoing which still prove my point from earlier about bigotry views. The video explains it for those same people that still are harping about out of wedlock births. Read carefully and SLOWLY:

@ACE,Since you have a talent for getting off topic; You stated it's a FACT blacks commit MOST of the VIOLENT crimes......but according to the feds White individuals were arrested more often for violent crimes than individuals of any other race and accounted for 59.0 percent of those arrests. FBI UCR 2016.

Majority of the gun violence in black communities are HEAVILY CONCENTRATED within personal networks. https://crimeresearch.org/2017/04/n...-counties-2014-zero-murders-69-1-murder/

You also stated that Blacks were the majority in prison when ... https://www.bop.gov/about/statistics/statistics_inmate_race.jsp
https://www.prisonpolicy.org/reports/pie2017.html

Back on topic in regards to the notion that most out-of-wedlock black children don't have a relationship with their fathers, You don't know that but ASSUME it. Don't get your misguided opinion confused for a fact. As I stated for millionth time , I AM one of many children born out of wedlock and since I'm black I know much more personally about it then you.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr66/nvsr66_01.pdf

Now if you and your buddies don't have any productive commentary outside the broken rhetoric then there's nothing more I can do with bigotry.
Except Facepalm 4 ever.
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/09/18 05:42 PM

White supremacists are impervious to facts.
Posted By: cookcounty

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/09/18 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by Aces
Originally Posted by cookcounty
Originally Posted by Aces
Cookcounty
Shut up and dribble.. lol


I dont know any black males that doesn't take care of their kids



In other words, you dont know any black males.



More like you're a walking stereotype
Posted By: Aces

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/09/18 09:10 PM

Blackfamily
You are WRONG usual. What you say about more whites commiting violent crime is misleading since whites are a much larger poplulation. If you go by per capita, blacks overwhelmingly commit more violent crime. Just go to a black hood and you will see.. as long as you dont get robbed, shot, and killed.
You are born out of wedlock?? You arent embarassed by that? How did it happen? Do you have brothers and sisters from different men? You seem to have turned out very well but you are the minority ( no pun intended ).
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/09/18 09:30 PM

Originally Posted by Aces
You are born out of wedlock?? You arent embarassed by that? How did it happen? Do you have brothers and sisters from different men?.


Not cool.
Posted By: Aces

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/09/18 09:37 PM

trust me, im not being rude. He sounds like a good kid. I never met anyone born out of wedlock and i have some questions. This is totally foreign to me.
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/09/18 09:43 PM

Originally Posted by Aces
t I never met anyone born out of wedlock and i have some questions.


Why?
Posted By: BlackFamily

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/09/18 11:08 PM

Originally Posted by Aces
Blackfamily
You are WRONG usual. What you say about more whites commiting violent crime is misleading since whites are a much larger poplulation. If you go by per capita, blacks overwhelmingly commit more violent crime. Just go to a black hood and you will see.. as long as you dont get robbed, shot, and killed.
You are born out of wedlock?? You arent embarassed by that? How did it happen? Do you have brothers and sisters from different men? You seem to have turned out very well but you are the minority ( no pun intended ).


@Aces
I'm not wrong as you usually think. Argument can be made the rate is higher yet you said overall the majority ( numbers wise) and that's not true. I've been through hoods and it's not a 24/7 shootout.
No. I'm not embarrassed. It happens just like anywhere else. Plus I'm a grown man not kid.
Posted By: Aces

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/09/18 11:18 PM

Originally Posted by OakAsFan
Originally Posted by Aces
t I never met anyone born out of wedlock and i have some questions.


Why?


I think its important to know what makes certain people tick. I seem to ask the questions everyone else is afraid to ask, i ask the right questions. Especially when it comes to race relations, i believe i provide more factual insight than most.
Posted By: Aces

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/09/18 11:21 PM

Black family, blacks commit much more violent crime than whites. Go to chicago, new orleans, detroit, camden, or baltimore and you would know what i mean; its chilling. I never heard of someone claiming they got mugged by a white guy in a white hood. It happens of course but not nearly as much as a colored hood. I also never heard anyone ever say, dont go to that white neighborhood after dark. Thats just not a reality.
Posted By: BlackFamily

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/10/18 01:43 AM

Aces
Obviously you don't read links. So you keep thinking that about violent crimes. Yes of course it happens heaviest in those poor neighborhoods but not all black neighborhoods. Of course you can be Rob by a white person in a white hood. Well even today there's rural white neighborhoods I don't bother visiting. I see those trailerparks hoods get overlook a lot in mainstream news. Anything else?
Posted By: Aces

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/10/18 01:50 AM

C’mon blackfamily, where are all these dangerous white neighborhoods??? Gimme a break.
You are right, not all black neighborhoods are dangerous, in fact many are great hoods. Guess what those great black hoods would be? The Black hoods with traditional families!!! Thats a fact.
The most violent black hoods, and there are many, are mostly out of wedlock hoods.
Posted By: blueracing347

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/10/18 05:10 AM

You never hear about white people burning down there neighborhood or rioting. They want to act like a bunch of animals, let them. But there is no reason tax money should be used to rebuild.
Posted By: BlackFamily

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/10/18 06:12 AM

Originally Posted by Aces
C’mon blackfamily, where are all these dangerous white neighborhoods??? Gimme a break.
You are right, not all black neighborhoods are dangerous, in fact many are great hoods. Guess what those great black hoods would be? The Black hoods with traditional families!!! Thats a fact.
The most violent black hoods, and there are many, are mostly out of wedlock hoods.


Aces
If I had a dollar for every time you type out of wedlock I probably be closer to retirement. End of the day your stuck in your ways
It's painfully obvious and fact largest number of unmarried births is in the link I provided but bless your incorrigible heart.

Peace.
Posted By: BlackFamily

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/10/18 06:13 AM

Originally Posted by blueracing347
You never hear about white people burning down there neighborhood or rioting. They want to act like a bunch of animals, let them. But there is no reason tax money should be used to rebuild.


Yeeeaaah as if whites don't have a history of you know ...... rolleyes

Peace.
Posted By: BlackFamily

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/10/18 06:18 AM

All right y'all thank you for constantly proving my point rigorously. Continue on with it if you want but I'm done.
Back to other interesting topics........
Peace!
Posted By: blueracing347

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/10/18 07:43 AM

Maybe the white trash get drunk and accidentally burn down the trailer park or the occasional meth lab takes out a couple other trailers. But when it comes to riots, looting, burning, brutality of their own and others. The blacks stand alone. What history do the whites have, I don't know. If we're bringing up the slavery bullshit, my people weren't here back then and it has been over for quite some time. Just remember it was the African tribal ladders clearing the ones they didn't want our could make a profit on. Blame your ancestors well.
Posted By: Aces

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/10/18 02:51 PM

Yeah, i never heard of a white neighborhood where the children can’t go outside because of shootings and other forms of violence.
I never saw or even heard of a white neighborhood having a chinese restaurant that needed bullet proof glass between the cashier and the customer.
I never heard of white pro athletes getting involved in shoot outs.
I never heard of white musicians getting shot at or carrying guns to night clubs.
The black culture is just ridiculously immature, irresponsible, and may i say violent. It all goes back to out of wedlock births.
Where’s dad ??????

The title of this thread should be “the myth of black fathers”.
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/10/18 06:28 PM

I've said this before but the majority of the time I look up a black American athlete on Wikipedia the "early life" section says "raised by single parent".

It's not racist to say that. If anything I sympathise with black women in inner cities having to raise children because a lot of men in these communities don't have backbone.

Plenty of black people in Ireland now. I don't have a problem with them by and large, but I know a girl who was knocked up by a black guy, and, you guessed it, is raising the child alone.
Posted By: Aces

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/10/18 10:08 PM

Originally Posted by Moe_Tilden
I've said this before but the majority of the time I look up a black American athlete on Wikipedia the "early life" section says "raised by single parent".

It's not racist to say that. If anything I sympathise with black women in inner cities having to raise children because a lot of men in these communities don't have backbone.

Plenty of black people in Ireland now. I don't have a problem with them by and large, but I know a girl who was knocked up by a black guy, and, you guessed it, is raising the child alone.


Good post Moe. Unfortunately its an all too familiar problem. I just hope Ireland is staying true to its culture, i heard its a beautiful country with some great people.
Posted By: cookcounty

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/10/18 10:27 PM

Originally Posted by Aces
Originally Posted by Moe_Tilden
I've said this before but the majority of the time I look up a black American athlete on Wikipedia the "early life" section says "raised by single parent".

It's not racist to say that. If anything I sympathise with black women in inner cities having to raise children because a lot of men in these communities don't have backbone.

Plenty of black people in Ireland now. I don't have a problem with them by and large, but I know a girl who was knocked up by a black guy, and, you guessed it, is raising the child alone.


Good post Moe. Unfortunately its an all too familiar problem. I just hope Ireland is staying true to its culture, i heard its a beautiful country with some great people.



The world views america as racist assholes

You're certainly holding true to that stereotype
Posted By: Aces

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/10/18 10:58 PM

Yeah sure, the world thinks we are a bunch of racist. Yet when they are in danger or need help, who do they call ? Us, the racist assholes. Give me a break. Your statement is foolish. The world does view our country as violent thanks to black neighborhoods.
How many tourists were robbed and/ or killed in NYC by blacks? A lot. Do a google search. It certainly wasnt any whites.
Stop drinking the grape soda; i mean kool aid.
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/11/18 12:38 AM

Cook,

I wonder what the world is thinking of Trump getting ready to visit Kim Jong. Americans are easily fooled by Trump but the world sees right through him. Two dictators getting together. Nations that have had dictators in the past century know this isn't a good sign.
Posted By: blueracing347

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/11/18 06:29 AM

Here we go with the dumb fuck brigade.
Posted By: hoodlum

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/11/18 07:04 AM

Originally Posted by OakAsFan
Cook,

I wonder what the world is thinking of Trump getting ready to visit Kim Jong. Americans are easily fooled by Trump but the world sees right through him. Two dictators getting together. Nations that have had dictators in the past century know this isn't a good sign.

I knew u Oak ,were gonna jump on that shit,,just let see what happens? ...God forbid there is world peace ..... what will u have 2 post about then?? Geezz...
Posted By: hoodlum

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/11/18 07:24 AM

Originally Posted by Moe_Tilden
I've said this before but the majority of the time I look up a black American athlete on Wikipedia the "early life" section says "raised by single parent".

It's not racist to say that. If anything I sympathise with black women in inner cities having to raise children because a lot of men in these communities don't have backbone.

Plenty of black people in Ireland now. I don't have a problem with them by and large, but I know a girl who was knocked up by a black guy, and, you guessed it, is raising the child alone.

Moe...I have never talked 2 u b 4 ..but ..r u really in IRE.??,,,My parents r from the homeland ,,(CO.Mayo & Donegal )..Is it actually violent now???I can't imagine.last time I was there was in 1982.. my ,if what is u say is true ,,there needs 2 b alot of fixin...Do I have 2 worry about my father's farm in Co.Mayo?? I stand 2 inherit when me oldest aunt passes..she is now 89 yrs. & not doing too good ..I really dont want the bother ,,but will have 2 give it 2 another son... who dont ( if u dont mind me sayin') have a knack 4 farming....
Posted By: hoodlum

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/11/18 07:30 AM

By the way ,,,I ve always loved ur pics u posted
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/11/18 05:03 PM

I talk to people who are embarrassed to admit they're Americans when they travel oversees. One woman told me she purposely uses a fake British accent.
Posted By: hoodlum

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/11/18 05:50 PM

Originally Posted by OakAsFan
I talk to people who are embarrassed to admit they're Americans when they travel oversees. One woman told me she purposely uses a fake British accent.

I kinda avoid conversing w/ you , but now ,u grabbed me by the nut!!.... OAK...So that means, that ,u, OAK, relate 2 these ppl. b-cause YOU R Embarrassed 2 b an AMERICAN..Am I not right?? U know,Oak, I always tried 2 see ur side of ur conflictions that u have w/ basically EVERYONE..but, u know what Oak??....now I see.. they r right...u r a leftist liberal no good "I'm so great" more than likely closet homosexual do-something that u probably were the shame of ur 7th grade class & got beatup in the school yard so now u take it out on everyone u meet by ur intelligence just 2 prove that u have a mind of ur own motherfucker.....If u don't like the U.S.A.....then just fuckin' leave.... jitbag...p.s.,,I used 2 enjoy ur posts,,now ..go away.
Posted By: blueracing347

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/11/18 08:11 PM

I hope you don't talk to them anymore. I would cut ties in a second with someone shui told me that they were embarrassed to be an American. Goes to show the kind of people you surround yourself with. Did she grow up without a dad? Did you grow up without a dad oak? You seem to be a misguided individual. In regards to this recent bullshit you've posted. If people like yourself and this woman you speak of don't like the USA, why don't you leave? The woman travels, why doesn't she make a one way trip? You probably couldn't afford to travel or your parents won't let you leave. And if you're waiting for the day that you can say "I told you so" about Trump. Well, that day isn't going to Fucking happen. Just like Hilary was never going to win the election.
Posted By: cookcounty

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/12/18 12:21 AM

Originally Posted by blueracing347
I hope you don't talk to them anymore. I would cut ties in a second with someone shui told me that they were embarrassed to be an American. Goes to show the kind of people you surround yourself with. Did she grow up without a dad? Did you grow up without a dad oak? You seem to be a misguided individual. In regards to this recent bullshit you've posted. If people like yourself and this woman you speak of don't like the USA, why don't you leave? The woman travels, why doesn't she make a one way trip? You probably couldn't afford to travel or your parents won't let you leave. And if you're waiting for the day that you can say "I told you so" about Trump. Well, that day isn't going to Fucking happen. Just like Hilary was never going to win the election.



Lemme guess, having a black president for 8yrs drove u so crazy that u didn't vote for the better candidate

Or you're too weak to vote for a woman as president

Or both
Posted By: blueracing347

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/12/18 01:04 PM

Sorry buddy. When you work your ass off for everything you have, (something that my dad instilled in me since I was young), and you listen to what the left have to offer. Race and sex have nothing to do with my decisions. The better candidate won. People like you and oakster need to take the blinders off. I'm sorry but I don't believe in handouts. People come to this country from all over the world for a better life and make it by going through the proper legal channels. It's sad that people born here can't do the same. The left, whatever, the left is the left and the democratic party has failed and continues to fail. Obama handed Hilary the presidency on a silver platter and she still Fucked it up. It's a common theme amongst your people. I would quit this guessing game if I were you. Just like your Hillary, you were wrong.
Posted By: The_Rooster

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/12/18 01:10 PM

I thought Obama had a white mother no?
Posted By: Aces

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/12/18 02:26 PM

Obama’s black father was not around, he was raised by his white grandmother and white grandfather who had a traditional marriage. Had it not been for his white grandparents instilling proper values, he would probably be unemployed. I hate to say that.
Although Baracks father was from kenya and actually worked, he had many wives and was an absentee father. Baracks mom divorced him after a rather short marriage. At least they were married and he wasnt born out of wedlock, thank god for his moms parents. Important to note, a kenyan is much different than an american black in terms of work ethic from what i have read. You never hear them playing the race card.
Unfortunately, later in life he surrounded himself with liberal blacks which helped shape his political views. President obama is smart, a good person, and a hard worker. I just totally disagree with his political views. He also kind of perpetuates the blacks “ blame game”.
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/12/18 04:45 PM

Obama actually got into politics because of his white mother. The way the health insurers treated his mother while she died of cancer inspired him to prevent it from happening to others. I don't know where Republicans got the idea that he was all about race politics. Probably the same reason they think the hotel maid is stealing.
Posted By: cookcounty

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/12/18 06:49 PM

@blueracing

You're talking about hard work when the president u worship aint worked a hard day in his privileged life

Lets say u didn't vote for trump because of racism and sex of his opponent, that doesnt mean everybody else didnt


@aces


U dont know shit about american black people let alone kenyans

U hate obama so much that you're still obsessed with him even tho hes no longer president

The hatred for obama is the reason that trump is president
Posted By: The_Rooster

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/12/18 08:04 PM

Why is Obama considered black is he is half white? Am I missing something?
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/12/18 08:24 PM

Safe to say the police would call him black if they were looking for a black suspect.

"Suspect is half white, half black.." - said no police dispatcher ever
Posted By: The_Rooster

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/12/18 08:26 PM

In law enforcement youre absolutely right. Why is it that we are totally erasing his whiteness though in order to feed a narrative?
Posted By: Aces

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/12/18 09:46 PM

Cookcounty
I know plenty about blacks. I have to drive through black neighborhoods on a weekly basis. I should get combat pay for that.
There are a decent number of blacks that actually voted for trump.
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/12/18 10:28 PM

Why are the police erasing the whiteness of light complected black people to feed a narrative? They only see a black man.
Posted By: The_Rooster

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/12/18 11:45 PM

Im saying in general...yes, in color he is black, as in pigment. But he is half white, which isnt bad and neither is being black. But to simply say hes the first black president is racist in itself. He is the first President of black complexion. All races should be proud of him because he became president, not just blacks because he has a similar skin color.
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/12/18 11:51 PM

Are you saying all police are racist? Because if their suspect is a light complected black person, even very light complected, they're going to just call the suspect black.
Posted By: The_Rooster

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/13/18 01:06 AM

You are the one who brought police into the conversation.
Posted By: blueracing347

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/13/18 03:31 AM

During obama's inaugural speech, not once did he mention anything about being the first black president. The difference between Obama and dumb dumbs like the oakster are, he made it to the top because he didn't sit around waiting for handouts and crying the race card. As the oakster sits in his parents basement trying to solve the murder of tupac and biggie, obama educated himself and climbed to the top.
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/13/18 04:11 AM

Originally Posted by The_Rooster
You are the one who brought police into the conversation.


Police don't recognize the white in mixed race suspects. Isn't this a peeve of yours?
Posted By: cookcounty

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/13/18 04:14 AM

@therooster

If Obama wasnt president u would not be trying to claim his whiteness, he would just be black


@aces

Driving thru a neighborhood doesnt mean that u know black people

@blueracing

Chicago politics prepared obama for the whitehouse

Black people tell u the truth, and people like u cry about how black people are crying....the hypocracy
Posted By: blueracing347

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/13/18 04:54 AM

Cook ol buddy, Do you know how to read or do you only pick up on words you recognize? Every race tells the truth, every race lies. Now to say all black people tell the truth, sounds like a black supremacy thing. I'll tell you when a black person is most definitely telling the truth. When they're in prison. Because they're all innocent. Goes the same for all prisoners. Just the other night I had a 90 year old black lady as a patient. She was so polite as well as her family. Most doctors I work with are Indian, Pakistani, few black, few women, and a few white. All respectable people. I treat people how they treat me. It's 2018, it's fair game. Have fun being racist if you want. But as an adult in the USA you need to be responsible for your actions.
Posted By: Aces

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/13/18 12:33 PM

I agree. Was in an airport and i was talking with a cop from memphis tenn. i told him i would like to go to memphis one day..he said dont bother, the blacks ruined the city...he said if i ever saw the way they lived, i wouldnt believe it. He said the blacks moved into a bunch of middle class areas where whites once lived and totally destroyed the neighborhood, no one takes care of their home, they sleep on mattresses. He said its disgusting. he also said the same thing is happening in Orlando Florida.
Go to an equally poor white neighborhood and you will not see the crime and violence ypu see in a black hood. Its a true american tragedy.
Then again, look at the level of violence in african countries. Some times you need to look at the country of origin.
Posted By: cookcounty

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/13/18 08:05 PM

@blueracing

Black people have the cards against them, if u cant admit that then you're lying

Thats a fact, not a dream, lie, or ploy to be ignorant


@aces

Cops are the biggest gang in the country, most of them aint worth a good goddamn

Crime is rampant in poor white neighborhoods just like in all poor communities, do meth and heroin ring a bell?

Someone sleeping on a mattress can be a better person than someone living in a mansion, see donald trump for an example
Posted By: blueracing347

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/13/18 09:09 PM

Excuses, excuses. You should be ashamed of your parents or parent for raising such a pathetic piece of shit. If you grew up with a father, you'd know that in America you can do whatever you put your mind to. Dr. Ben Carson, president Obama, Dr. Cason, Dr. Matthews, Diddy, Jay Z, ... You're ignorant and pathetic. I came from a family that made less than a grand a week growing up. My dad made sure I did well in school and taught me to appreciate the value of dollar. "If you want to have what you're friends parents have, don't be like me son. Get an education, because they can never take that away. And money doesn't grow on trees." Maybe you surround your self with a bunch of worthless pieces of shit like yourself and discuss how the world is against you. Dr. King would be so proud of you. He died for what? Go take a history class. Everyone who immigrated to America has it stacked against them. Your life is what you make of it. You sound like you can't make sense of anything. It's a shame. It would be nice if we could trade our useless Americans for immigrants with motivation. Example: Russian doctor comes to the US after practicing for five years. If she wanted to practice in the U.S. She has to redo her residency in the U.S. Instead of crying about how that's not fair, she did it. So, as I was saying, you're pathetic cook.
Posted By: cookcounty

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/14/18 04:36 AM

@blueracing

So u resort to insulting my parents in order to show you're superiority?

Only a piece of shit would resort to those tactics

Where does all this anger come from if you're such an upstanding citizen
Posted By: blueracing347

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/14/18 05:13 AM

As I recall, you started this thread. As if you had something to prove. I don't need an article to realize that blacks aren't the only race with absent fathers. In my opinion this thread was unnecessary. All it did was stir up shit. At the end of the day, this is all on you pal. You have misinterpreted my posts over and over again. I give examples and you pick them apart. As for your parents or parent, it seems like they raised a cry baby. Isn't that what this post was about? PARENTS are responsible for a good upbringing and instilling morals and showing their children what and what not to do. So that when you become an adult you can hold yourself responsible for your actions and not blame others. You don't have to be rich to accomplish this. And your skin color definitely has nothing to do with this. As a kid I was raised to respect my elders. You don't steal. You work hard to get what you want. And so on. In conclusion, the year is 2018, a real estate tycoon is president, BLACKS WHITES HISPANICS and so on have children with absent fathers. They display a lack of responsibility and the one's hurt the most are these children. Some of these children make it and some don't. Luckily my parents did their best and I am doing my best. Every day I wake up I'm a happy guy. When I see my boys off to school or tell them to have a good day over the phone bc I'm getting out of work late, I always think back to how much I looked up to my parents. Side note, a new family moved in across the street. Black male white female and two daughters. He stays at home while she works. When I come home in the morning and stand out front with my after work beer he has no problem coming over and bullshitting with me and vice versa. He loves those little girls. And we can hold a conversation. We don't discuss politics but talk like two responsible adult men. I agree that racism is bullshit and it needs to end unfortunately I don't think I'll live to see it.
Posted By: Aces

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/14/18 12:29 PM

Blueracing347
Trust me, cookcounty is fully aware of the many issues in the black community, particularly the extreme levels of violence and irresponsible behavior. Dont let him fool you, he also fully understands that until blacks stop having so many bastard children out of wedlock, the ills of the black community will never be solved. We as americans have done everything for the black community but they are still content “ living the way they do”..
We all know every race has absent fathers and every race has children born out of wedlock but we all know, the blacks have the highest percentqge by far at almost an astounding 75% !!! You tell me, how does a community prosper and succeed if that issue is not fixed? They cant succeed, its impossible unless they fix that. Until they do, america will be forced to deal with ultra violent black neighborhoods and we will remain at risk.
Ignore cookcounty,oakasfan, and blackfamily- they only respond to our very truthful and factual posts just to stir the pot. They all know what we say is true. I hate to admit it but if i were black, i would be embarassed.
Posted By: Giacomo_Vacari

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/14/18 12:46 PM

75% is from 2010, and the 2012 report just copied the 2010. As I have said before, it is around 50 percent, still the highest in the ethnic group followed by Hispanics which roughly 7 percent is fathers having kids in the states then getting deported, maybe more then that.
Posted By: SC

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/14/18 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by Aces

Trust me, cookcounty is fully aware of the many issues in the black community, particularly the extreme levels of violence and irresponsible behavior. Dont let him fool you, he also fully understands that until blacks stop having so many bastard children out of wedlock, the ills of the black community will never be solved. We as americans have done everything for the black community but they are still content “ living the way they do”..
We all know every race has absent fathers and every race has children born out of wedlock but we all know, the blacks have the highest percentqge by far at almost an astounding 75% !!! You tell me, how does a community prosper and succeed if that issue is not fixed? They cant succeed, its impossible unless they fix that. Until they do, america will be forced to deal with ultra violent black neighborhoods and we will remain at risk.
Ignore cookcounty,oakasfan, and blackfamily- they only respond to our very truthful and factual posts just to stir the pot. They all know what we say is true. I hate to admit it but if i were black, i would be embarassed.



You really have to tone down the hate-filled diatribe if you want to continue to post here. You are entitled to your own beliefs but you are not entitled to make these kinds of divisive, racist statements on these forums.
Posted By: olivant

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/14/18 04:23 PM

Originally Posted by SC



You really have to tone down the hate-filled diatribe if you want to continue to post here. You are entitled to your own beliefs but you are not entitled to make these kinds of divisive, racist statements on these forums.



clap clap
Posted By: Aces

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/14/18 10:40 PM

Sc
Its not anything hate filled. Its just a very emotional debate based on facts and other various forms of evidence. We will tone it down.
Posted By: SC

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/15/18 12:23 AM

Originally Posted by Aces
Its not anything hate filled.


Bullshit. It's full of hate. You're accusing these other guys of not being American (the use of the word, "we", bolded in copying your post) and trying to get others to ignore them because you have some strange power of insight which these other guys are blind.

Originally Posted by Aces
Its just a very emotional debate based on facts and other various forms of evidence. We will tone it down.


Yes, it IS emotional but you will tone it down here because that's the only way you'll be allowed to stay.

Posted By: Aces

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/15/18 12:31 AM

When i said ignore blackfamily and oakasfan, i meant ignore the nonsense they were espousing. I never meant for them to ignore them as posters.
Posted By: SC

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/15/18 12:45 AM

Originally Posted by Aces
When i said ignore blackfamily and oakasfan, i meant ignore the nonsense they were espousing. I never meant for them to ignore them as posters.


Sure. rolleyes You'd be wise to just drop it now.
Posted By: cookcounty

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/15/18 04:17 AM

@blueracing

So you're ok with the guy living off his wife? Thats pretty much a contradiction of evrything you're saying

U do realize that you're friends with the quintessential black man, i hope he enlightens you
Posted By: blueracing347

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/15/18 01:00 PM

The point being made is that he isn't an absent black father. I have live an in a nice neighborhood. I never said be lives off his wife. For all I know he's a day trader. Maybe he is a drug dealer, maybe he has a trust fund. Who knows. But to live in his house, you must likely couldn't pull it off on a single income. The quintessential black man? Now you're stereotyping people? Hopefully you don't have kids. This world doesn't need more people like you. Like I said, you started this post and all you did was stir up a bunch of shit. That's all you have accomplished. You're pathetic.
Posted By: cookcounty

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/15/18 04:20 PM

Originally Posted by blueracing347
The point being made is that he isn't an absent black father. I have live an in a nice neighborhood. I never said be lives off his wife. For all I know he's a day trader. Maybe he is a drug dealer, maybe he has a trust fund. Who knows. But to live in his house, you must likely couldn't pull it off on a single income. The quintessential black man? Now you're stereotyping people? Hopefully you don't have kids. This world doesn't need more people like you. Like I said, you started this post and all you did was stir up a bunch of shit. That's all you have accomplished. You're pathetic.



I didn't start the thread, what is this all black people look alike?

Oh course he's with his kids, not being in your kids lives aint as common for black people as u think
Posted By: Aces

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/15/18 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by cookcounty
Originally Posted by blueracing347
The point being made is that he isn't an absent black father. I have live an in a nice neighborhood. I never said be lives off his wife. For all I know he's a day trader. Maybe he is a drug dealer, maybe he has a trust fund. Who knows. But to live in his house, you must likely couldn't pull it off on a single income. The quintessential black man? Now you're stereotyping people? Hopefully you don't have kids. This world doesn't need more people like you. Like I said, you started this post and all you did was stir up a bunch of shit. That's all you have accomplished. You're pathetic.



I didn't start the thread, what is this all black people look alike?

Oh course he's with his kids, not being in your kids lives aint as common for black people as u think



Really???? how many famous black athletes and other famous blacks ever thank their dads??? Close to zero..
They may thank their moms and grandmothers but never the fathers. Something seriously wrong with that picture.
Posted By: blueracing347

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/15/18 06:21 PM

Sorry cook. You didn't start the thread. My mistake. But once again you've proven that you pick up on words and don't read. "All black people look alike". Now you know what I think? You just like to stir the pot. I'm done with this thread. Life is what you make of it. Hopefully you can make something with yours. If you have kids and they act like they know more than you, you might want to think it through before you argue with them. From your posting you come across as an uneducated individual.
Posted By: cookcounty

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/16/18 03:25 AM

@aces

I don't keep up with what famous athletes have to say or their upringings

I watch sports for entertainment, not to listen to whatever the fuck they have to say


@blueracing

Why are u so angry?

You sound like a drunken toothless lunatic with a confederate flag t-shirt from your post
Posted By: Aces

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/16/18 03:31 AM

Whats wrong with a confederate flag T-shirt ?
Posted By: flamingokid123

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/16/18 11:34 PM

Originally Posted by Aces
Whats wrong with a confederate flag T-shirt ?


What? You can't be serious.
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/17/18 12:39 AM

I wonder if he wore the confederate flag t shirt when he went to black neighborhoods and "observed them" for himself. My guess is he just wears it around the house.
Posted By: cookcounty

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/17/18 02:51 AM

@flamingokid

He's dead ass serious


@oaksfan

He's probably very cordial to black people when he sees them
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/17/18 03:22 AM

I doubt that. Probably nervous. Palms sweating. Wondering if someone he tormented online doxed him and tracked him down.
Posted By: Aces

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/17/18 03:38 AM

Originally Posted by OakAsFan
I doubt that. Probably nervous. Palms sweating. Wondering if someone he tormented online doxed him and tracked him down.


No, i just stay far away from black neighborhoods, there really is no reason for me to be there. I stay out of their way and they stay out of my way.
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/17/18 03:48 AM

Originally Posted by Aces
they stay out of my way.


Sure they do.
Posted By: Aces

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/17/18 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by OakAsFan
Originally Posted by Aces
they stay out of my way.


Sure they do.




Keep in mind i am wearing a T shirt that says “ Im hiring”.. so yes, they stay out of my way.
Posted By: aidanbrexit

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/17/18 02:00 PM

I dont know how to sugar coat facts without conjuring up feels from snowflakes that dont like facts...

Blacks, at 13% of the population, and black males at 6.5%, are responsible for
60% of all Murders,
(45% of all welfare)
40% of ALL Crime
90% of All Interracial crime which is black ON white

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Posted By: Aces

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/17/18 02:22 PM

Aidanbrexit
That is some scary stuff. Everyone on this forum knew it was bad but not that bad. wow ! How do you fix something like that ?
I guess you need to bring in the national guard to those communities that are most violent. There is no other way.
I guess to protect the future of those communities, they need to initiate a very aggressive campaign regarding out of wedlock births. Most of these males have absolutely no family structure and no discipline in their households. They are basically running wild. Trust me, have a father in those households, you will see how significantly violent crime decreases in those communities.
C’mon Lebron James and Kevin Durant, this is the perfect time to sit down with these communities and have a very honest and candid discussion regarding the risks of having children not only out of wedlock but at a young age. Now is the time !!!
Instead of wasting everyones time with you driving in a very expensive SUV talking about how President Trump isnt a good coach, try driving that expensive SUV into a violent community in chicago, st louis, new orleans, or baltimore and have a candid discussion regarding the root of most of the issues facing black communities. I guess its just easier to drive around and talk about nonsens and waste everyones time. If thats the case, then “ shut up and dribble “....
Posted By: aidanbrexit

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/17/18 02:24 PM

Originally Posted by Aces
Aidanbrexit
That is some scary stuff. Everyone on this forum knew it was bad but not that bad .. wow !! How do you fix something like that ?


You dont.

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Posted By: Aces

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/17/18 02:41 PM

There has to be something we can do.. i admit its an uphill battle and we are talking about literally changing a certain way of life but it can be done, i just know it can.
Posted By: aidanbrexit

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/17/18 03:33 PM

Some eternal optimists think as you, other realists believe that with a collective iq 20 points lower than other groups, it is simply not possible.

Haiti was once the richest land in the Western Hemisphere, run by the French, who treated black servants quite well. All lived a rather nice life. One day, blacks organized a revolt and killed off every white man, woman and child and then killed off every mullato, as a reminder.
Haiti then descended into becoming a hell hole and the poorest land in the Western Hemisphere, despite being mineral rich.

When whites literally have to teach blacks in Haiti how to catch rainwater in a rainforest, how in the hell do you expect them to rise above such underachievement and integrate them?
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Photo above of Raincatchers, who teach blacks how to catch rainwater in their rain forests.

Why not admit failure and push for segregation? It seemed to work better for both groups...


Posted By: RollinBones

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/17/18 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by aidanbrexit

Haiti was once the richest land in the Western Hemisphere, run by the French, who treated black servants quite well. All lived a rather nice life.

you mean slaves? yeah i'm sure they loved it. i thought you were banned for posting conspiracy theories about jewish people non-stop.
Posted By: flamingokid123

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/17/18 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by aidanbrexit
Some eternal optimists think as you, other realists believe that with a collective iq 20 points lower than other groups, it is simply not possible.

Haiti was once the richest land in the Western Hemisphere, run by the French, who treated black servants quite well. All lived a rather nice life. One day, blacks organized a revolt and killed off every white man, woman and child and then killed off every mullato, as a reminder.
Haiti then descended into becoming a hell hole and the poorest land in the Western Hemisphere, despite being mineral rich.

When whites literally have to teach blacks in Haiti how to catch rainwater in a rainforest, how in the hell do you expect them to rise above such underachievement and integrate them?
[Linked Image]
Photo above of Raincatchers, who teach blacks how to catch rainwater in their rain forests.

Why not admit failure and push for segregation? It seemed to work better for both groups...


Haiti is actually a beautiful country and the Haitian people are wonderful. Been there a few times.
Posted By: aidanbrexit

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/17/18 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by RollinBones
Originally Posted by aidanbrexit

Haiti was once the richest land in the Western Hemisphere, run by the French, who treated black servants quite well. All lived a rather nice life.

you mean slaves? yeah i'm sure they loved it. i thought you were banned for posting conspiracy theories about jewish people non-stop.


Servants mostly. House servants, men worked in sugar cane fields, still doing the same today, only its now the Poorest nation in The West.
Life was SO much better in Africa, Im sure...

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Posted By: aidanbrexit

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/17/18 05:45 PM

Originally Posted by flamingokid123
Originally Posted by aidanbrexit
Some eternal optimists think as you, other realists believe that with a collective iq 20 points lower than other groups, it is simply not possible.

Haiti was once the richest land in the Western Hemisphere, run by the French, who treated black servants quite well. All lived a rather nice life. One day, blacks organized a revolt and killed off every white man, woman and child and then killed off every mullato, as a reminder.
Haiti then descended into becoming a hell hole and the poorest land in the Western Hemisphere, despite being mineral rich.

When whites literally have to teach blacks in Haiti how to catch rainwater in a rainforest, how in the hell do you expect them to rise above such underachievement and integrate them?
[Linked Image]
Photo above of Raincatchers, who teach blacks how to catch rainwater in their rain forests.

Why not admit failure and push for segregation? It seemed to work better for both groups...


Haiti is actually a beautiful country and the Haitian people are wonderful. Been there a few times.


Haiti, BY Every account, is officially, a Craphole. Ive been to the Domincan 5 x and Haiti once. Dominican looks luxurious by default, so much so that Haitians risk death trying to flee Haiti to get To Dominican, where they are hated.

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Posted By: aidanbrexit

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/17/18 05:50 PM

Originally Posted by RollinBones
Originally Posted by aidanbrexit

Haiti was once the richest land in the Western Hemisphere, run by the French, who treated black servants quite well. All lived a rather nice life.

you mean slaves? yeah i'm sure they loved it. i thought you were banned for posting conspiracy theories about jewish people non-stop.


Theories? I posted facts, all verifiable.
Some just dont like truth. Like who ran slavery..
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We didnt learn of this in school, tho. Cohen, Levin, Sadowsky....Not Christian or Gentile names.
Posted By: RollinBones

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/17/18 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by aidanbrexit
Originally Posted by RollinBones
Originally Posted by aidanbrexit

Haiti was once the richest land in the Western Hemisphere, run by the French, who treated black servants quite well. All lived a rather nice life.

you mean slaves? yeah i'm sure they loved it. i thought you were banned for posting conspiracy theories about jewish people non-stop.


Servants mostly. House servants, men worked in sugar cane fields, still doing the same today, only its now the Poorest nation in The West.
Life was SO much better in Africa, Im sure...


Slaves, all of them. It's troubling that you can't even admit that much. I can only assume you condone slavery? We already know you believe that black people are mentally inferior, you might as well go full racist.
Posted By: aidanbrexit

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/17/18 06:04 PM

Originally Posted by RollinBones
Originally Posted by aidanbrexit
Originally Posted by RollinBones
Originally Posted by aidanbrexit

Haiti was once the richest land in the Western Hemisphere, run by the French, who treated black servants quite well. All lived a rather nice life.

you mean slaves? yeah i'm sure they loved it. i thought you were banned for posting conspiracy theories about jewish people non-stop.


Servants mostly. House servants, men worked in sugar cane fields, still doing the same today, only its now the Poorest nation in The West.
Life was SO much better in Africa, Im sure...


Slaves, all of them. It's troubling that you can't even admit that much. I can only assume you condone slavery? We already know you believe that black people are mentally inferior, you might as well go full racist.


I only restated what every administrator of an academic test, SAT and ACT scores know. And how they are scored and average by Race

More Irish were enslaved in America than blacks until 1800, they were actually slaves, not servants. They got the Worst and most dangerous jobs as no investment was ever made in them. Political prisoners from Ireland captured by the English. Blacks were treated very well by comparison because of said investment.

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Additionally, the largest slave owner IN America, was Black. Anthony Johnson.



Since YOU called me on it....heres your proof. Or google: IQ and Race/ Nation. Im tired of doing your homework for you and other lazy people.
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Posted By: SC

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/17/18 07:31 PM

Originally Posted by aidanbrexit
Im tired of doing your homework for you and other lazy people.



aidan, it's now clear that you are here with an agenda. An agenda to recruit others to your hate-filled way of thinking. Besides that you are an extremely rude and obnoxious person. You'd do better to find a racist message board on which to post because you and your divisive ways are no longer welcome here.
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/18/18 12:00 AM

Originally Posted by Aces
I guess you need to bring in the national guard .


So, big government's the answer.
Posted By: olivant

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/18/18 01:03 AM

Originally Posted by SC
Originally Posted by aidanbrexit
Im tired of doing your homework for you and other lazy people.



aidan, it's now clear that you are here with an agenda. An agenda to recruit others to your hate-filled way of thinking. Besides that you are an extremely rude and obnoxious person. You'd do better to find a racist message board on which to post because you and your divisive ways are no longer welcome here.


SC, I’d like to add the following. Regarding the obnoxious posts above by Aidanbrexit, I did my homework.

First of all, the picture of the Irish children in his post above and the wording left and right of that picture is from a blog on Radio2Hot.com. None of its content is attributed and that content is a mishmash of fiction and misleading information. Those “slaves” about which it speaks were actually indentured servants. The quote “… it is no more a sin to kill an Irishman than a dog or any other brute” is from pre-13th century Ireland where the English (Catholic at the time) were trying to stamp out native paganism.

The colored Bell curve graph in that same post above is sourced as The National Longitudinal Surveys of Youth. That Survey was conducted by the US Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS). I examined that Survey and cannot locate that graph. I think it is a modified reproduction. In other words, someone accessed a data set within the Survey, modified it (or completely misinterpreted it) and then graphed the Bell curve based on it. Thus, what it purports to represent is false.

Then there is the post’s color-coded world map purporting to illustrate IQs around the world by nation. The post sources it from Photius. I accessed the Photius website; it is a personal website the author of which chose his site name apparently from Photius, an ecclesiastical leader of the Byzantine Church of the 9th century who fought religious heresy (his version). In any case, the website’s author states that among his sources is the CIA’s World FactBook. I couldn’t locate the map above in the CIA’s Factbook, but I did locate a similar map on the TargetMap website. However, that site’s maps are not attributed.

Posted By: The Italian Stallionette

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/18/18 02:17 AM

Go Oli. Our fact checking guru. 😉 I try to avoid political threads tho must admit I sometimes read them. Thanks for the research. Thank goodness for modern technology. Who needs the library. 🙂


TIS
Posted By: Turnbull

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/18/18 03:36 AM

Originally Posted by SC
Originally Posted by aidanbrexit
Im tired of doing your homework for you and other lazy people.



aidan, it's now clear that you are here with an agenda. An agenda to recruit others to your hate-filled way of thinking. Besides that you are an extremely rude and obnoxious person. You'd do better to find a racist message board on which to post because you and your divisive ways are no longer welcome here.


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Posted By: hoodlum

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/25/18 01:34 AM

Originally Posted by The Italian Stallionette
Go Oli. Our fact checking guru. 😉 I try to avoid political threads tho must admit I sometimes read them. Thanks for the research. Thank goodness for modern technology. Who needs the library. 🙂
Yes. but 4 some of us old heads , the library is & was a time 2 get some peace & relaxation while reading an array of knowledge,,it brings back fond memories of my Parochial school yrs.

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Posted By: Giacomo_Vacari

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/25/18 07:41 AM

Ok, that is why I haven't heard from Aidan.
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers - 03/25/18 12:31 PM

He no longer has to do our homework for us. He was tired of that.
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