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Posted By: BlackFamily

Suicide Rates Increases - 12/08/17 07:04 PM

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db241.htm

According to the CDC, The 10th leading cause of death is suicide. Any ideas why it's steady increasing?
Posted By: olivant

Re: Suicide Rates Increases - 12/09/17 03:12 AM

As the population increases, the components within it tend to increase. This can result in a rate increase because the pool of people has increased. Coincidentally, the opportunity for people to experience causes of suicide increases.
Posted By: fergie

Re: Suicide Rates Increases - 12/09/17 05:50 AM

Suicide.....Weak way out, we all have Bad times, but I always remind myself I'm a man, now recently with a daughter. I'd never do that, folks that do deserve a wee bit of help, but shoot them after 2 months...no use to any fucker after that
Posted By: BlackFamily

Re: Suicide Rates Increases - 12/09/17 06:04 AM

Originally Posted By: olivant
As the population increases, the components within it tend to increase. This can result in a rate increase because the pool of people has increased. Coincidentally, the opportunity for people to experience causes of suicide increases.


I would agree but the US population back in the mid 70s was over 205 million with suicides being over 1,500 in the past. Now it reach over 44,000.
Posted By: Footreads

Re: Suicide Rates Increases - 12/09/17 11:59 AM

People are living longer now. More things can go wrong with the body. So suicdes are higher especially assisted suicdes. That new career of the future might be a to help people kill themselves.

Especially if it is a state that ban guns. In the states that allow guns people can do it themselves.
Posted By: Mignon

Re: Suicide Rates Increases - 12/09/17 05:54 PM

Holidays are hard on some people. They feel they have no other choice.
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: Suicide Rates Increases - 12/09/17 06:18 PM

I kinda wish I was dead after something that happened today but I don't have the balls to off myself, no matter how tough life gets.

I don't get why people say it's a weak thing to do. Selfish maybe. But it takes a lot of courage to go against all natural human instincts in my opinion.
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: Suicide Rates Increases - 12/09/17 06:24 PM

Social media probably drives vulnerable people further over the edge because they get to see how great other people's lives are and it further impresses how shitty their own lives are by comparison.

Stuff like Instagram puts a lot of pressure on people to fulfil unrealistic expectations of themselves.

A lot of kids document every stupid, drunken thing they do these days i.e. Snapchat.

So I can see that backfiring on people and causing them to make rash decisions.

The internet is just generally not good for people's self-esteem if it's already low.
Posted By: blueracing347

Re: Suicide Rates Increases - 12/09/17 10:17 PM

Euthanasia for humans. I'm all about that. We can take our pets to be put down to stop . suffering. Why can't we do it to people? Some states have a program but only a few. Instead oncologists give false hope to people string them along, decrease their quality of life, and when there's nothing else they can do, they send you to hospice. Also, if someone genuinely wants to die, let them. It sucks for everyone else, but if someone is suffering in their mind day in and day out only they know what is best. If a gun I'd going to be involved do it outside so there isn't a big mess.
Posted By: mustachepete

Re: Suicide Rates Increases - 12/09/17 11:28 PM

Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
But it takes a lot of courage to go against all natural human instincts in my opinion.


I think there are a number of people who botched the job and who reported that their last conscious thought was, "Ah, this was really a stupid idea."

I think declining religion plays a part in the increase, partly because people don't have a moral imperative against it and partly because previous suicides might have been reported as accidents.
Posted By: dl

Re: Suicide Rates Increases - 12/10/17 12:19 AM

Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
I kinda wish I was dead after something that happened today but I don't have the balls to off myself, no matter how tough life gets.

I don't get why people say it's a weak thing to do. Selfish maybe. But it takes a lot of courage to go against all natural human instincts in my opinion.


I agree with that. I've thought about it semi-seriously a few times.
Once I started to buy a gun, once I tried cutting my wrists, but I don't have the guts. Suicide is not cowardly. Its usually wrong, but not cowardly. Things always seem to get better later, so I'm glad I didn't do it.

Whenever I have thought about it, I have decided that there are alternatives. I could just disappear instead. That wouldn't be worse than death, and it would be possible to improve the situation.
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: Suicide Rates Increases - 12/10/17 03:35 PM

Speaking for myself, when I've thought of suicide it has often been contemplated as a violent act towards someone else turned inward.

I'm sure that's pretty common. People will do the most drastic of impulsive things to prove a point to somebody.

Yeah. I've heard that a lot of people who've attempted suicide immediately regretted it after commencing the act, particularly several people who survived a jump off the Golden Gate.
Posted By: Footreads

Re: Suicide Rates Increases - 12/10/17 09:38 PM

Originally Posted By: blueracing347
Euthanasia for humans. I'm all about that. We can take our pets to be put down to stop . suffering. Why can't we do it to people? Some states have a program but only a few. Instead oncologists give false hope to people string them along, decrease their quality of life, and when there's nothing else they can do, they send you to hospice. Also, if someone genuinely wants to die, let them. It sucks for everyone else, but if someone is suffering in their mind day in and day out only they know what is best. If a gun I'd going to be involved do it outside so there isn't a big mess.


When I first heard that word I thought it meant” youth in Asia” Chinese kids.

Today evidently need kids need safe spaces even in colleges. A bunch of weak willed pussies. Life is not always easy. The idea is you push yourselves to improve your position. Then when and if you get there should should end up lucky and a lot happier then you were.
Posted By: Footreads

Re: Suicide Rates Increases - 12/11/17 02:19 AM

My next door dear departed neighbor ED who I never talked to started to talk to me. He tells me he has cancer, and is going to die. I tell him fuck the if that was me I go to Vegas buy a show girl. And fuck her to one of us is dead. He laughed I said good night. That was the last time I ever saw him. Maybe he did it.
Posted By: Aces

Re: Suicide Rates Increases - 12/12/17 04:36 PM

Saying Suicide is selfish amd cowardly is kind of ignorant. Can you imagine how low a person must be in order to contemplate taking their life? They are obviously not thinking rationally. Everyone always says never to make important decsions when you are depressed or traumatized and for good reason. I cant even imagine the low one must feel to actually follow through with suicide. I think some people feel as if they never fit in and are just living life on the outside and watching the rest of the world on the inside. Very sad, especially when kids do it.
I knew a guy through marriage who shot himself. He said he had nothing else to live for. He had lost his job and wife, so that and im sure some other things.
I also think some people are much more predisposed to depression, especially deep depression.
Posted By: Turnbull

Re: Suicide Rates Increases - 12/12/17 06:13 PM

There's a lot more stress in life now, and a lot less civility. Plus, social media have replaced real, personal relationships that could support emotionally needy people.
Posted By: olivant

Re: Suicide Rates Increases - 12/12/17 07:53 PM

Originally Posted By: Turnbull
There's a lot more stress in life now, and a lot less civility. Plus, social media have replaced real, personal relationships that could support emotionally needy people.


Indeed TB. Social media is doing exactly that. What is very troubling and predictive is that at least an entire generation has been raised with social media and it is embedded along with its consequences in that generation.
Posted By: Footreads

Re: Suicide Rates Increases - 12/13/17 06:04 AM

That is why I an not on Facebook, Twitter and I don’t text.

I am on sites like this and soccer sites.

A old friend of mine wants me on LinkedIn what ever that is I emailed him why?

Frankly, I don’t email much. It too easy to say things on it without having to hear a response.

I telephone people I want to talk to or I go talk to them in person.

Ever heard of the comedian Sebastian Maniscalco. I just found out someone wants him to play lucky Luciano. No one even knows about it yet. Scorsese asked my friend to work on his accent I guess it is a movie project.
Posted By: BlackFamily

Re: Suicide Rates Increases - 12/13/17 02:20 PM

LinkedIn is a social network for professionals and hobby related activies.
Posted By: Flushing

Re: Suicide Rates Increases - 12/17/17 12:08 AM

80% of suicides are committed by men.
70% of drug overdoses are men.
Men comprise the bulk of homelessness, workplace accidents, and prison sentences.

We are reared to be disposable warriors or manual laborers or both. And in a post industrial society soon to be dominated by women, we have no niche. Many of us have no idea what to do. The era of brute force and physical dominance is over, and we can't handle it.

https://www.theatlantic.com/.../archive/2010/07/the-end-of-men/308135
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: Suicide Rates Increases - 12/17/17 12:16 AM

Men are adapting though.

This is the era of men plucking their eyebrows, wearing skinny jeans and baby socks, and staring at themselves like Zoolander every time they see their reflection.

I've lost count of the amount of teen boys I've seen flicking and tossing their hair like Jennifer Aniston in a shampoo commercial.

Modern men are losing their masculinity, I'm not saying it as a bad thing, just a simple fact.
Posted By: BlackFamily

Re: Suicide Rates Increases - 12/17/17 01:42 AM

Originally Posted By: Flushing
80% of suicides are committed by men.
70% of drug overdoses are men.
Men comprise the bulk of homelessness, workplace accidents, and prison sentences.

We are reared to be disposable warriors or manual laborers or both. And in a post industrial society soon to be dominated by women, we have no niche. Many of us have no idea what to do. The era of brute force and physical dominance is over, and we can't handle it.

https://www.theatlantic.com/.../archive/2010/07/the-end-of-men/308135


That's abit melodramatic don't you think?
Posted By: dl

Re: Suicide Rates Increases - 12/17/17 08:17 PM

Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
Men are adapting though.

This is the era of men plucking their eyebrows, wearing skinny jeans and baby socks, and staring at themselves like Zoolander every time they see their reflection.



Hah! Thank you for that! I am so sick of seeing these little freaks dressing and acting like girls! I apologize in advance to anybody that I am going to offend.
I'm not a tough guy at all. I'm sure there are pregnant girls that could beat me up, but I'm not going to ask for it.

You said "I'm not saying it as a bad thing".

I AM saying it is a bad thing. Its one thing for it to be natural, but its not natural. Fighting against mother nature is a losing battle.
I have heard similar sentiments from other people. We don't have to be Arnold Schwarzenegger (I had to look up the spelling) but there is no good reason to act like a girl.
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Suicide Rates Increases - 12/17/17 10:32 PM

Men will continue to be disposable warriors and/or manual laborers, they just won't receive as many benefits in return. They can thank themselves for this, primarily by the way they've voted in the past 50 years.
Posted By: fergie

Re: Suicide Rates Increases - 12/20/17 11:34 PM

Oak, I agree with you and the last few posts...we are in a time in which we're more often being given a lower status by the left wing though. TBH I couldn't care less- remember, if your a white male, it's open season eh! smile
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Suicide Rates Increases - 12/21/17 01:09 AM

If you're a white person who isn't rich, the left wing still does more for you than the right wing does.
Posted By: fergie

Re: Suicide Rates Increases - 12/21/17 01:27 AM

Oak, you are just wrong...the left wing are the ones who censore free speech, (in the guise of everything they disagree with is "racist"), and promote division amongst races and sexes, simply by always identifying and promoting them as different.

America is trading its appeal as the home of the brave and land of the free, it going to become a 4th rate country within 10 years
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: Suicide Rates Increases - 12/21/17 01:40 AM

Didn't Hillary lose the election precisely because her indifference towards the average American who wasn't rich was so transparent?
Posted By: Flushing

Re: Suicide Rates Increases - 12/22/17 12:00 AM

Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
Didn't Hillary lose the election precisely because her indifference towards the average American who wasn't rich was so transparent?


What's more is the democratic party abandoned apallachia (sp)sp and the midwest. The unions in that midwestern/southern section used to be a automatic democrat vote. They voted for obama... Twice...

Those days are probably over. And drugs are destroying the area quickly. Doesn't matter because the left will import its new base from the rest of the world. Who cares about a bunch of dead guyys who used to be part of the formerr)) most productive manufacturing and agricultural center of the world. Not trying to sound like a john cougar mellencamp song but i guess i just did.

The author of Hillbilly Elegy, named J. d. vance wrote about this and basically predicted trumps victory, based on this forgotten corner of the countey. CNN sure as fuck isn't gonna report it.
Posted By: dl

Re: Suicide Rates Increases - 12/25/17 12:27 AM

Originally Posted By: OakAsFan
If you're a white person who isn't rich, the left wing still does more for you than the right wing does.


What specifically does the left wing do for poor people that the right wing doesn't do? I'm not (yet) disagreeing, but I would like to know exactly what you're referring to.
Posted By: Giacomo_Vacari

Re: Suicide Rates Increases - 12/27/17 11:56 AM

The big burst in the 2000's really was a bad time for Americans. Social media, internet, among other things make communication easier for a lot of people. Different reasons why someone takes their own life, but the data from U.S, U.K. and Germany shows a lot of it is from bullying or peer pressure online. I know these levels are low compared to Asian countries such as Japan and South Korea where there is a pressure to succeed in life.
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