well, trump just fired comey the FBI director, was the FBI getting to close to the truth about trump and russia, is trump scared about what will come out. and is he pulling a nixon, and we all know what happened to him.
Trump had bipartisan support for firing Comey, who had been playing God for far too long and deserved to be canned. But, there's no way Trump can avoid the appearance that he dumped Comey to quash the FBI investigation about Russian influence in the election. There's going to be a lot of pressure in Congress for an independent investigation. FBI is going to take a big hit.
President Trump acted based on the clear recommendations of both Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and Attorney General Jeff Sessions. Another fact is that senate voted 94-6 to confirm Rod Rosenstein as deputy attorney general. He is respected by both sides. Thus far Fenstein and other prominet democrats made public statements that there is no evidence of collusion between Trump associates and Russia. This is all a political ploy to make Trump look bad.
He was out there operating without any decent restraint, totally beyond the pale of any acceptable human conduct. And he was still in the field commanding troops.
Comey sought more resources for Russia probe days before he was fired by President Trump, officials say
Last week, then-FBI Director James B. Comey requested more resources from the Justice Department for his bureau’s investigation into collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russian government, according to two officials with knowledge of the discussion.
Comey, who was fired by President Trump on Tuesday, made the request in a meeting last week with Rod J. Rosenstein, the deputy attorney general, and briefed the chair and Democratic ranking member of the Senate Intelligence Committee on Monday, the officials said.
When Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.), the chairman, and Sen. Mark Warner (D-Va.) the ranking member, met with Comey, he told them about his request for more resources, according to a person familiar with the situation. The two committee chiefs informed other members of Senate Intelligence Committee about the meeting on Monday night, said the person, who was not authorized to speak publicly about the matter.
However, Justice Department spokeswoman Sarah Isgur Flores said reports that Comey had requested more funding or other resources for the Russia investigation are “totally false.” Such a request, she said, “did not happen.”
Rosenstein wrote the memo that was used to justify Trump’s swift and unexpected firing of Comey on Tuesday evening.
The news was first reported by the New York Times.
Asked by reporters Wednesday whether she was briefed by Comey on requests for additional funding for the investigation, Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), a member of the Intelligence Committee, said: “I was not. But I understand that there have been additional requests. That's all I can say.”
It's unclear where the FBI investigation stands. Comey acknowledged publicly in March that the FBI was looking into possible coordination between the Kremlin and the Trump campaign, and he said the investigation had begun in late July. Comey said that for a counterintelligence probe, “that’s a fairly short period of time.”
Isn't the point of an investigation to uncover actual evidence?
Paul Manafort was fired mid-campaign by Trump. Word was that he had ties and received money from Pro-Russian Ukranian interests and that he was "making changes in the GOP platform that were favorable to Russia".
The "word" came from "alleged sources", but Manafort was in fact fired. Wouldn't a true investigation either confirm or refute these ties?
I guess technically the campaign ends once the election results are confirmed, but Flynn clearly colluded with Russian officials pre inauguration.....lied about it to POTUS and was fired for it.
I think a thorough investigation would uncover ties to Russia from other members of the campaign/transition/current Trump team.
Isn't the point of an investigation to uncover actual evidence?
Paul Manafort was fired mid-campaign by Trump. Word was that he had ties and received money from Pro-Russian Ukranian interests and that he was "making changes in the GOP platform that were favorable to Russia".
The "word" came from "alleged sources", but Manafort was in fact fired. Wouldn't a true investigation either confirm or refute these ties?
I guess technically the campaign ends once the election results are confirmed, but Flynn clearly colluded with Russian officials pre inauguration.....lied about it to POTUS and was fired for it.
I think a thorough investigation would uncover ties to Russia from other members of the campaign/transition/current Trump team.
The investigation does not end just because Comey got fired. As far as I know it is still ongoing. With regards to Trump, he dealt with Manafort and Flynn by firing them also. All they found thus far is that Flynn got paid some money for some speech or service which is peanuts compared to Hillary allowing the Russians to get 20% of the US uranium and millions of money that her foundation got from shady world leaders including Russians. I did not see outrage from the Democrats and the mainstream media. All they are interested in doing is to demonize Trump. This is all political rhetoric.
Comey sought more resources for Russia probe days before he was fired by President Trump, officials say
Last week, then-FBI Director James B. Comey requested more resources from the Justice Department for his bureau’s investigation into collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russian government, according to two officials with knowledge of the discussion.
Comey, who was fired by President Trump on Tuesday, made the request in a meeting last week with Rod J. Rosenstein, the deputy attorney general, and briefed the chair and Democratic ranking member of the Senate Intelligence Committee on Monday, the officials said.
When Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.), the chairman, and Sen. Mark Warner (D-Va.) the ranking member, met with Comey, he told them about his request for more resources, according to a person familiar with the situation. The two committee chiefs informed other members of Senate Intelligence Committee about the meeting on Monday night, said the person, who was not authorized to speak publicly about the matter.
However, Justice Department spokeswoman Sarah Isgur Flores said reports that Comey had requested more funding or other resources for the Russia investigation are “totally false.” Such a request, she said, “did not happen.”
Rosenstein wrote the memo that was used to justify Trump’s swift and unexpected firing of Comey on Tuesday evening.
The news was first reported by the New York Times.
Asked by reporters Wednesday whether she was briefed by Comey on requests for additional funding for the investigation, Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), a member of the Intelligence Committee, said: “I was not. But I understand that there have been additional requests. That's all I can say.”
It's unclear where the FBI investigation stands. Comey acknowledged publicly in March that the FBI was looking into possible coordination between the Kremlin and the Trump campaign, and he said the investigation had begun in late July. Comey said that for a counterintelligence probe, “that’s a fairly short period of time.”
Fake News Busted: Comey Didn’t Request More Money for Russia Probe May 10, 2017
RUSH: CNN and the Washington Post with fake news. There’s a news story that Comey requested additional money for his investigation just days before he was fired. The Department of Justice has just denied it 100%. There was no request for additional money before he was fired. CNN and the Washington Post get this fake news trail going that Comey was getting close, man! He needed some more money. He needed some more money to nail Trump! And that’s when Trump moved in and said, “Screw you! You’re not getting the money. You’re not getting me.” The DOJ says it’s 100% false that the request was made. BREAK TRANSCRIPT RUSH: It’s bogus. Why would the FBI need additional money? Anyway. Really, really big investigation. Yeah, that’s been going on for how long now? (laughing) This is one of the biggest hoaxes. The Russian collusion with Trump to steal the election is one of the biggest hoaxes and scams that I can remember. I mean, just this side of climate change, global warming. But this is really localized. This is a very narrow-scope hoax. It’s amazing. There’s nothing! There’s literally nothing there. Before the election, when Hillary thought she was gonna win, there wasn’t any talk about the Russians tampering with anything other than Podesta’s emails, but nothing about the election. Nothing! They thought they were gonna win — and, after they won, they didn’t want the election tainted by claiming the Russians had helped out. They started this hoax about 24 hours after Hillary lost, once they came to grips with it (which they probably still haven’t, when you get down to it).
Yes, Trump fired Manafort and Flynn. Nunes recused himself from any investigation into Russian ties. Comey is fired.
I believe that an investigation will uncover others with ties to Russia...and perhaps a pattern. Clintons are a separate topic.
Perceptions about Trump's leadership/political acumen took a hit when he had to fire Flynn for lying to him.
Why would Clinton be a separate topic ? It has to do with Russians. Her getting money by Russians has all to do with Russian interference. Pedesta was also knee deep with the Russians. I am hoping that the new FBI director will expand this investigation to include Hillary,Pedesta and other Democrats as this should of been done a long time ago.
Clintons are a tangent to this topic. Their names come up to distract from what the current investigation is.
I think Bill Clinton is a singularly gifted and intelligent man and an expert politician. Also that both he and Hillary are scoundrels of the highest order.
But when person gets tired of defending Trump's team against accusations of Russian ties , bringing up Clintons is just lazy.
I know that the Trump tie video makes people laugh but if your a businessman who has to compete with other companies that buy ties overseas. You have no choice but to do the same. Trump wants to change that by lowering taxes and removing costly regulation to corporations & small business owners and renegotiate trade deals. In doing so, American companies will be able to manufacture more products in the USA. Previous administrations did not address this and this is why Trump (the businessman) and others had ties made in overseas countries. Trump(the president) wants to level the playing field for American companies. This will create jobs;video's of Letterman will only create laughter but no jobs.
Clintons are a tangent to this topic. Their names come up to distract from what the current investigation is.
I think Bill Clinton is a singularly gifted and intelligent man and an expert politician. Also that both he and Hillary are scoundrels of the highest order.
But when person gets tired of defending Trump's team against accusations of Russian ties , bringing up Clintons is just lazy.
Bringing the Clinton's is facing up to the truth. The truth hurts at times.
Yes, Trump fired Manafort and Flynn. Nunes recused himself from any investigation into Russian ties. Comey is fired.
I believe that an investigation will uncover others with ties to Russia...and perhaps a pattern. Clintons are a separate topic.
Perceptions about Trump's leadership/political acumen took a hit when he had to fire Flynn for lying to him.
Why would Clinton be a separate topic ? It has to do with Russians. Her getting money by Russians has all to do with Russian interference. Pedesta was also knee deep with the Russians. I am hoping that the new FBI director will expand this investigation to include Hillary,Pedesta and other Democrats as this should of been done a long time ago.
I brought up 5 separate people or points. You chose to respond only about the Clintons.
Like I said, when Trump team Russian ties investigation comes up....Clintons are a distraction. A welcome distraction, for those who would rather not talk about Trump.
I know that the Trump tie video makes people laugh but if your a businessman who has to compete with other companies that buy ties overseas. You have no choice but to do the same. Trump wants to change that by lowering taxes and removing costly regulation to corporations & small business owners and renegotiate trade deals. In doing so, American companies will be able to manufacture more products in the USA. Previous administrations did not address this and this is why Trump (the businessman) and others had ties made in overseas countries. Trump(the president) wants to level the playing field for American companies. This will create jobs;video's of Letterman will only create laughter but no jobs.
Isn't David Letterman the dude who sexually harassed every woman that worked for The Late Show like ever?
And yet Colbert/Stewart/insert unfunny twat are the first to mock Trump over his sexual indiscretions.
I know that the Trump tie video makes people laugh but if your a businessman who has to compete with other companies that buy ties overseas. You have no choice but to do the same. Trump wants to change that by lowering taxes and removing costly regulation to corporations & small business owners and renegotiate trade deals. In doing so, American companies will be able to manufacture more products in the USA. Previous administrations did not address this and this is why Trump (the businessman) and others had ties made in overseas countries. Trump(the president) wants to level the playing field for American companies. This will create jobs;video's of Letterman will only create laughter but no jobs.
I made the post as a follow up joke to the post about Russian ties.
The Trump clothing line was a LICENSING deal he made with a company that manufactures clothes under different brands.
Deal has been in place for over a decade. Trump didn't spend one cent producing or transporting the apparel to retailers in America.
If Trump wanted to, he could have added terms to the licensing deal that certain % of the clothing was to be made in America, or that certain amount of money allotted to create a shop in America to employ people here.
I know that the Trump tie video makes people laugh but if your a businessman who has to compete with other companies that buy ties overseas. You have no choice but to do the same. Trump wants to change that by lowering taxes and removing costly regulation to corporations & small business owners and renegotiate trade deals. In doing so, American companies will be able to manufacture more products in the USA. Previous administrations did not address this and this is why Trump (the businessman) and others had ties made in overseas countries. Trump(the president) wants to level the playing field for American companies. This will create jobs;video's of Letterman will only create laughter but no jobs.
Isn't David Letterman the dude who sexually harassed every woman that worked for The Late Show like ever?
And yet Colbert/Stewart/insert unfunny twat are the first to mock Trump over his sexual indiscretions.
I know that the Trump tie video makes people laugh but if your a businessman who has to compete with other companies that buy ties overseas. You have no choice but to do the same. Trump wants to change that by lowering taxes and removing costly regulation to corporations & small business owners and renegotiate trade deals. In doing so, American companies will be able to manufacture more products in the USA. Previous administrations did not address this and this is why Trump (the businessman) and others had ties made in overseas countries. Trump(the president) wants to level the playing field for American companies. This will create jobs;video's of Letterman will only create laughter but no jobs.
I made the post as a follow up joke to the post about Russian ties.
The Trump clothing line was a LICENSING deal he made with a company that manufactures clothes under different brands.
Deal has been in place for over a decade. Trump didn't spend one cent producing or transporting the apparel to retailers in America.
If Trump wanted to, he could have added terms to the licensing deal that certain % of the clothing was to be made in America, or that certain amount of money allotted to create a shop in America to employ people here.
I thought I made myself quite clear as to why companies (not only Trump) have products made overseas. Walmart is a perfect example, people will not pay more and I don't blame them because socialist policies of the left have prevented them from getting jobs. Jobs is the key to economic recovery. Investors, corporations and companies like what they see in Trump policies and yet Democrats are more interested in divisive politics rather than see the country recover to prosperity. If you turn on CNN,NBC and other mainstream media with the exception of FOX, all you see is hatred, they all have the same talking points. Reminds me of Russian media.
Senate Intel Committee Subpoenas Michael Flynn in Russia Probe
President Donald Trump's former national security adviser, retired Gen. Michael Flynn, was subpoenaed by the Senate Intelligence Committee on Wednesday.
The committee, led by Sens. Richard Burr, R-North Carolina, and Mark Warner, D-Virginia, said it requested documents that members believe to be relevant to its investigation into alleged Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election.
The committee initially requested the documents from Flynn in a letter on April 28, but he declined to comply if he wasn't offered immunity. The Intelligence Committee declined the deal and has now followed up with an official subpoena.
Burr and Warner have said they considered their committee's subpoena power as an available recourse.
"I think all options are on the table, and I think you can envision what those options are," Burr told reporters on Tuesday, a day ahead of the announcement.
"I think the most severe would be a subpoena," he said. "I think that the vice chairman and I have, from the beginning, believed that we would make more progress faster with voluntary participation by witnesses, so we have gone to all lengths to exhaust their willingness to do that."
This is the first time the Intelligence Committee has used its subpoena power since the joint inquiry into the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, and it's the first time it has subpoenaed documents since the 1970s, a Senate historian told NBC News.
Former President Barack Obama cautioned Trump against hiring Flynn as his national security adviser, but Trump ignored the warning. Obama fired Flynn in 2014 as head of the Defense Intelligence Agency.
Trump still hired Flynn, but he fired him three weeks after the start of his administration because he misled Vice President Mike Pence about conversations he had with the Russian ambassador to the United States about economic sanctions.
Former Acting Attorney General Sally Yates testified on Monday that she told the Trump administration that Flynn had been compromised and could be potentially "blackmailed by the Russians."
Rosenstein Pressed White House to Correct the Record on Comey Firing
Deputy attorney general objected to White House description of events, and hinted he couldn’t work in an environment where facts weren’t accurately reported
So he said he threatened to quit his brand new job? Another lie nothing but lies the leftists say. The only truth about leftists is that they fuck their mothers on Mother's Day.
one thing i think everyone has overlooked, when trump met with the russian, at the white house, no member from the U.S. press corp was allowed in, why? doesn't this disturb anyone? GETS !!
So he said he threatened to quit his brand new job? Another lie nothing but lies the leftists say. The only truth about leftists is that they fuck their mothers on Mother's Day.
foots, that is a terrible thing to say, did someone put something in your oatmeal ?
one thing i think everyone has overlooked, when trump met with the russian, at the white house, no member from the U.S. press corp was allowed in, why? doesn't this disturb anyone? GETS !!
Binnie, The past few days, there have been so many twists in this story that I actually didn't know this until you posted it.
wow.Damage control on Trump's part..which works against him,actually.
The Syria issues from a few weeks ago, knocked the Russian ties story out of the headlines temporarily...but it's back in full force now. However anybody feels about Trump, it's a fact that he's a political novice. Local mayor of a one-horse town is a better politician than Trump, and his inexperience is showing now. Don't want to deal with the press?, just don't allow them in.
[quote=Footreads]So he said he threatened to quit his brand new job? Another lie nothing but lies the leftists say. The only truth about leftists is that they fuck their mothers on Mother's Day.
foots, that is a terrible thing to say, did someone put something in your oatmeal ? [/quot
I still have my own teeth so no I don't eat oat meal or farina. Now that I posted this I will have the wife buy farina. I remember that I liked it with sugar and the lumps as a kid. As a kid you put up with things that you would never put up with today. Everyone lies now and them, but the democrats and the liberal press lie all the time. Too many times to actually believe it. But some people are stupid enough to believe them all.
Hey on another note the US, Canada and Mexico are not going to win their bid to host the men's World Cup in soccer/football. Of course a bunch of thieves run FIFA, But, you can not continually take them into American courts to prove it, and expect them to award us with hosting the WC.
one thing i think everyone has overlooked, when trump met with the russian, at the white house, no member from the U.S. press corp was allowed in, why? doesn't this disturb anyone? GETS !!
This is oddly funny:
Quote:
The White House did not anticipate that the Russian government would allow its state news agency to post photographs of an Oval Office meeting between President Donald Trump, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and Russia’s ambassador to the US, a White House official said…
The White House did not post photos of the meeting although an official White House photographer was also in the room, the White House said. The State Department did post photos of Lavrov’s meeting with Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, but that was open to the press…
“They tricked us,” an angry White House official said.
“That’s the problem with the Russians — they lie,” the official added.
Those tricky Russians, they're at it again
More seriously, they need to think -if you're dumb enough to get duped by TASS over a photograph, how well will you do in any serious negotiations?
So white supremacist Richard Spencer's posse showed up to protest the removal of the Robert Lee statue with tiki torches and all. The hipster millennial klan.
one thing i think everyone has overlooked, when trump met with the russian, at the white house, no member from the U.S. press corp was allowed in, why? doesn't this disturb anyone? GETS !!
Binnie, The past few days, there have been so many twists in this story that I actually didn't know this until you posted it.
wow.Damage control on Trump's part..which works against him,actually.
The Syria issues from a few weeks ago, knocked the Russian ties story out of the headlines temporarily...but it's back in full force now. However anybody feels about Trump, it's a fact that he's a political novice. Local mayor of a one-horse town is a better politician than Trump, and his inexperience is showing now. Don't want to deal with the press?, just don't allow them in.
gets.... now the latest...... trump giving russians U.S. intelligence concerning middle east, WTF !! are the republicans ever going to see the light? and stand up to this moron.!!
To be honest. I get scared when I watch the news now. Trump is POTUS and I guess legally he can do most of what he wants but I think he's incredibly naive and being manipulated like a puppet.
So with pressure on him about possible leaks to Russia pre election....he's sharing classified intel with Russians.WOW.
As far as Republicans standing up to him? The people spoke by electing Trump, but let's see what they have to say when mid-term elections come up.
Personally i dont think Trump did anything impeachable regarding Russia. I think there is a tremendous amount of inuendo and specualtion but thats it. The left want the world to think Trump made a deal with Putin that would lift sanctions off Russia in return for hacking into the election. Thats absurd and i dont actually think democrats really believe that ever happened. Thats an illusion they are creating. I do think Flynn may have discussed improving relations and removing sanctions prior ro Trump taking office. Remember, Trump is a deal maker. That doesnt make it right. However, i dont think actual laws were broken. That said, none of those conversationa involved stealing the election. In regards to Comey, i think Trump may of said " go easy on Flynn, he is a good guy". He may have said that in a friendly type way. I dont think he went as far as to ask Comey in a serious manner to drop the investigation. I think Trump was feeling him out and Coney wasnt biting. This display of disloyalty in Trumps eyes is probably the straw that broke the camels back.
One thing to consider is that if Comey, as the FBI Director, had evidence that Trump broke the law, why did he hold on to the information and not report it to the relevant congressional committees that oversee it? By holding on to it, Comey abetted a crime (if it was a crime). FBI Directors are not permitted to hold a few cards in their back pockets for future use.
One thing to consider is that if Comey, as the FBI Director, had evidence that Trump broke the law, why did he hold on to the information and not report it to the relevant congressional committees that oversee it? By holding on to it, Comey abetted a crime (if it was a crime). FBI Directors are not permitted to hold a few cards in their back pockets for future use.
Agree!
Furthermore, where are Comey's notes related to his interview with Hillary on the emails. Where are his notes for Benghazi, Fast and Furious, Pedesta brothers involved with the Russians, Lynch & Bill Clinton meeting and Hillary's foundation taking money for favors. The problem is that there are also republicans that want him to fail because he wants to drain the swamp and feel threatened by that.
One thing to consider is that if Comey, as the FBI Director, had evidence that Trump broke the law, why did he hold on to the information and not report it to the relevant congressional committees that oversee it? By holding on to it, Comey abetted a crime (if it was a crime). FBI Directors are not permitted to hold a few cards in their back pockets for future use.
F1, That's a good point you raise. To whom would Comey have reported it if it's a crime though? Technically, wouldn't it be reported to the Trump appointed Attorney General? Is there a time limit on when he would have to report it?
Also, if it's not a crime...wouldn't it just be a note to be included in the final report once investigation(s) is complete?
I think Trump tried to beat him to the punch by tweeting last week that "Comey better hope our conversations weren't recorded before he starts leaking stuff".
I could see Trump trying to beat Comey to the punch with regards to recorded conversations. Still, i dont think Trump came out and asked Comey to drop any investigation. I dont think the democrats think any laws were actually broken but this was their golden opportunity to derail Trumps agenda.
The intelligence committees in the Senate and the House (it's called a joint committee) oversees the FBI. The Director would have reported any potentially impeachable offenses to the heads of those committees. He would have also reported it to the Justice Dept. Since AG Jeffers removed himself from this investigation to avoid a conflict of interest, it goes to the Deputy AG. The Deputy AG is Rod Rosenstein, who happens to be a Democrat. So the fact that Comey did not tell them anything says that he didn't think Trump violated any law.
This is from the FBI's website:
The FBI’s activities are closely and regularly scrutinized by a variety of entities. Congress—through several oversight committees in the Senate and House—reviews the FBI’s budget appropriations, programs, and selected investigations. The results of FBI investigations are often reviewed by the judicial system during court proceedings. Within the U.S. Department of Justice, the FBI is responsible to the attorney general, and it reports its findings to U.S. Attorneys across the country. The FBI’s intelligence activities are overseen by the Director of National Intelligence. https://www.fbi.gov/about/faqs/who-monitors-or-oversees-the-fbi
As for Trump's tweets, he just needs to stop. His big mouth (and fingers) just get him in more trouble. If he insists on tweeting he needs to have them vetted. The problem is that he's a known control freak and micromanages. (Obama was said to have been a micromanager too, but he studied law and knew when to shut up.)
One thing to consider is that if Comey, as the FBI Director, had evidence that Trump broke the law, why did he hold on to the information and not report it to the relevant congressional committees that oversee it? By holding on to it, Comey abetted a crime (if it was a crime). FBI Directors are not permitted to hold a few cards in their back pockets for future use.
F1, That's a good point you raise. To whom would Comey have reported it if it's a crime though? Technically, wouldn't it be reported to the Trump appointed Attorney General? Is there a time limit on when he would have to report it?
Also, if it's not a crime...wouldn't it just be a note to be included in the final report once investigation(s) is complete?
I think Trump tried to beat him to the punch by tweeting last week that "Comey better hope our conversations weren't recorded before he starts leaking stuff".
gets, i don't think trump has any tapes, i consider what he told the russians, far more serious than comey's memo, the question i have is what is the real reason trump gave the russians this intel, no US press allowed in the meeting, and now we know why, putin now offers to tell us what went on,it looks more, and more like putin and the russians have really compromised this president, anxious to see how this all unfolds.
Did Mrs Clinton ever say why she gave our uranium to the Russians? Was it for giving her foundation millions in cash? Did she break any laws for doing that like aiding the enemy that is treason.
I personally feel that most of the accusations levied against both Trump and Clinton are hype and exaggerations. There is definitely smoke but in the end there may be just a spark but no actual fire, What Clinton did was walk the very grey area to where it may have been wrong but not quite illegal. I read all the transcripts regarding the email controversy and there is no way a jury would of convicted her. Trust me, im not a clinton fan.
Former FBI Director James Comey testified under Senate oath May 3rd that the Trump administration had not pressured his agency to halt any investigation for political purposes.
if that's Hannity as in Sean, no surprise that it's written that way(Uh,oh)....or that it's not related to whether TRUMP asked Comey to stop investigation.
if that's Hannity as in Sean, no surprise that it's written that way(Uh,oh)....or that it's not related to whether TRUMP asked Comey to stop investigation.
Try reading it again.
Are you telling me it depends what is is. Where did I hear this before ? Oh yes Bill Clinton. Playing with words again. I have been listening to Sean Hannity for years and he has never lied. He is a straight shooter. I can't say that for the mainstream media that lies daily.
HIRONO: So if the Attorney General or senior officials at the Department of Justice opposes a specific investigation, can they halt that FBI investigation?
COMEY: In theory yes.
HIRONO: Has it happened?
COMEY: Not in my experience. Because it would be a big deal to tell the FBI to stop doing something that -- without an appropriate purpose. I mean where oftentimes they give us opinions that we don't see a case there and so you ought to stop investing resources in it. But I'm talking about a situation where we were told to stop something for a political reason, that would be a very big deal. It's not happened in my experience. (Emphasis Added)
The intelligence committees in the Senate and the House (it's called a joint committee) oversees the FBI. The Director would have reported any potentially impeachable offenses to the heads of those committees. He would have also reported it to the Justice Dept. Since AG Jeffers removed himself from this investigation to avoid a conflict of interest, it goes to the Deputy AG. The Deputy AG is Rod Rosenstein, who happens to be a Democrat. So the fact that Comey did not tell them anything says that he didn't think Trump violated any law.
This is from the FBI's website:
The FBI’s activities are closely and regularly scrutinized by a variety of entities. Congress—through several oversight committees in the Senate and House—reviews the FBI’s budget appropriations, programs, and selected investigations. The results of FBI investigations are often reviewed by the judicial system during court proceedings. Within the U.S. Department of Justice, the FBI is responsible to the attorney general, and it reports its findings to U.S. Attorneys across the country. The FBI’s intelligence activities are overseen by the Director of National Intelligence. https://www.fbi.gov/about/faqs/who-monitors-or-oversees-the-fbi
As for Trump's tweets, he just needs to stop. His big mouth (and fingers) just get him in more trouble. If he insists on tweeting he needs to have them vetted. The problem is that he's a known control freak and micromanages. (Obama was said to have been a micromanager too, but he studied law and knew when to shut up.)
Mean no disrespect to you at all. Just do not like certain talking heads,,has little to do with where they stand politically. Hannity,Geraldo,Lemon,Limbaugh..and a bunch of them. There were several pundits who were cheerleaders for Obama during last 8 years....questioned nothing he said or did. Now when they get on soapbox about Trump's mistakes, they have no credibility.
Mean no disrespect to you at all. Just do not like certain talking heads,,has little to do with where they stand politically. Hannity,Geraldo,Lemon,Limbaugh..and a bunch of them. There were several pundits who were cheerleaders for Obama during last 8 years....questioned nothing he said or did. Now when they get on soapbox about Trump's mistakes, they have no credibility.
As long was we are civil to one another I enjoy a good debate even if we disagree.
WASHINGTON — President Trump told Russian officials in the Oval Office this month that firing the F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, had relieved “great pressure” on him, according to a document summarizing the meeting.
“I just fired the head of the F.B.I. He was crazy, a real nut job,” Mr. Trump said, according to the document, which was read to The New York Times by an American official. “I faced great pressure because of Russia. That’s taken off.”
Mr. Trump added, “I’m not under investigation.”
The conversation, during a May 10 meeting — the day after he fired Mr. Comey — reinforces the notion that Mr. Trump dismissed him primarily because of the bureau’s investigation into possible collusion between his campaign and Russian operatives. Mr. Trump said as much in one televised interview, but the White House has offered changing justifications for the firing. Newsletter Sign Up Continue reading the main story Breaking News Emails
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trump said with russians in meeting..... comey is a nut job, firing him is taking the heat off me, he just admitted why he fired comey, and set himself up for charges of obstruction of justice, also rance prebius called comey to ask him to lay off gen.michael flynn. things are going to get much, much, hotter.
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Interesting ! I doubt Hillary & the DNC would engage in voter fraud. Maybe we should ask Bernier Sanders that question. It would explain why some from a certain party do not want voter ID. No it can't be, it must be the Russians.
President Trump will be the Hercules to the Media Hydra:
Take it from me. If you like a public figure and the media is going after them, It's natural to view it the way you're doing it.
I've done it myself. Eventually though, I had to admit to myself, that most of the criticisms were valid in 90% of the cases.
The anti-politician image that Trump has helped him get into office, but his lack of political experience is a shortcoming. A glaring shortcoming and it's not funny anymore.
The New York Times, Washington Post and CNN have been using more of these anonymous sources and unseen documents in their stories. So how do we know that any of these sources are true? We don't, and some have turned out to be false. There are a lot of federal employees who don't like Trump and some of them are leaking information, some of it false information.
Trump has big mouth, tweets too much, says stupid things, acts like a bully, and I could go on, but there's no evidence of Russian collusion or obstruction of justice. Zero. James Comey testified that there's no obstruction and even Sen. Dianne Feinstein and Rep. Pelosi said there's no evidence of collusion. Alan Dershowitz, who voted for Hillary, said there's no reason for an appointment of a special investigator except for people wanting to cover their asses. Meanwhile, Rep. Maxine Waters is creating tin foil hat conspiracy theories and calls for his impeachment NOW.
Instead of all this witch hunting, the media needs to just stick with the facts and lay off the partisan speculation.
F1, Trump is a polarizing figure, for many of the reasons you outlined. Hard to find many people who are neutral about Trump as a person.
Trump is a cash cow for the American media, left leaning and right leaning. He's been that for about 12-14 straight months.
Less of a witch hunt, than a cash grab. Anything related to Trump is going to be "breaking news" in electronic media or front page news in print.
I'm convinced that if any major news editor had the smoking gun that could implicate Trump in anything solid.....that they would NOT release it right away. They'd sit on it and slowly leak it in a way to maximize the amount of views/subscriptions/hits it would draw.
From what I've learned, the media usually holds on to stories when they're protecting somebody. When they don't like someone, and especially when they have something big, they want to release it as soon as they can. They want to get the big scoop before another paper does, since it can mean getting a Pulitzer Prize. That's what happened with Watergate.
From what I've learned, the media usually holds on to stories when they're protecting somebody. When they don't like someone, and especially when they have something big, they want to release it as soon as they can. They want to get the big scoop before another paper does, since it can mean getting a Pulitzer Prize. That's what happened with Watergate.
giving the russians classified information doesn't disturb you? trump admitting obstruction of justice, you are ok with that? white house not denying that, when are you going to understand that this president is unstable. and nothing but putins puppet,are you in denial, faithful.
The classified information that trump gave the Russians in private was the warning that Isis has learned to put batteries in lap tops that can explode and bring a plane down in flight. So he warned them that can happen in their planes as well. What the fuck was so bad about that?
He did not say who told him that. Then it was leaked to the press and they said the Israeli gave him that information not trump. The person who leaked that bit about the Israelis should be tried and jailed.
The press and the leakers and the times for printing it should be put in jail. Then hung in their jail cell
So binni did they take away your social security and your guns as yet. If they do learn to use a knife.
Remember when the maniac sent anthrax in envelopes through the mail to politicians. Well there was this big mouth who called himself a journalists he decided to tell terrorists how to do it and most likely kill 50 thousand New Yorkers in our subway system. That mother fuckers name was Ted Kopel. One time wasn't enough for him he did it twice in case they may have missed that piece of information. If they did it does the motherless fuck Kopel that distinguished journalist deserve to live?
With insider information on the Trump administration being leaked to the press with ritual frequency, Americans can be fairly certain that if any incriminating evidence regarding Trump and the Russians existed, it would have already been leaked. Sensitive conversations shared between the highest political posts in the Oval Office are repeatedly revealed to the media, often read as word-for-word accounts of conversations between Trump and important foreign officials.
So far, White House leaks have allowed the press—and therefore, the American people—unprecedented access to office gossip between low-level aides and internal disputes involving belligerent staffers. More serious breaches of national security include phone calls between the president and foreign heads of state as well as undisclosed Oval Office meetings with Russian officials.[3]
Though President Trump has been the subject of persistent systemic efforts to leak compromising information, his approval rating remains fundamentally unchanged in the wake of any damaging direct evidence.
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It is simple to imagine an America where Hillary Clinton is president and, much like her predecessor, the toughest question the media asks her is: “What . . . enchanted you the most about serving in this office?”
The former Secretary of State would certainly get a free pass on ties to Russia. In one particular transaction, Clinton sat on a secretive board that swiftly approved the sale of 20 percent of America’s uranium reserves to a state-owned Russian company despite the potential national security threats such a deal entailed.[7]
Meanwhile, a French-owned company seeking similar board approval for the purchase of significantly less risky defense assets waited two years to have their own proposal approved. Perhaps the sudden urge by investors involved in the uranium deal to donate tens of millions of dollars to the Clinton Foundation or the generous Russian bankers’ payment of $500,000 for a one-hour speech by Bill Clinton would grease the wheels that produced the board’s approval for the deal.
Evidence of a similarly controversial deal between the Trump team and Russian big business would surely result in impeachment hearings. After all, Attorney General Jeff Sessions was compelled to recuse himself from any Russiagate investigations for simply bumping into a Russian ambassador in the presence of numerous other state diplomats at the Republican National Convention in summer 2016, demonstrating the complete intolerance of lawmakers for any interaction with Russian officials.
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An alarming percentage of media reports making bold accusations about the Trump White House today rely upon uncorroborated sources to support claims of Trump-Putin collusion. Anonymous sources claimed that Comey was requesting more assets to conduct his investigation into Trump’s ties with Moscow just before he was fired.
Justice Department spokesperson Sarah Isgur Flores called this accusation “totally false.” Similarly, unnamed “officials” also claimed that the mass departure of senior State Department officials was motivated by a lack of respect for the incoming president. The truth, according to actual named sources, was that Trump requested the exodus in preparation for installing his own team.
Across the nation, unimaginative journalists are increasingly depending on unreliable or anonymous contacts to describe a chaotic, self-destructive White House living on the edge of impeachment. To relate the story of Comey’s ouster, The Washington Post relied upon “the private accounts of more than 30 officials at the White House.”[9]
In many cases, stories are going to print in which an anonymous source cites an anonymous source. To reinforce the claims of their unnamed sources, news agencies are frequently turning to each other and former Obama appointees, as if to check the journalistic box requiring at least one verifiable reference per article.
I call Amazon tell them that I love their company, but I despise their owner. The same guy that owns the Washington post all they do is post lies about trump. I told them do not enroll me automatically to Amazon prime. Because when it expires I will not renew. They gave me a credit for prime for a year that's over 100 dollars back on my credit card. I told the girl she is the best. When my prime is do for renewal I won't renew but I will keep the hundred credit
Trump could have kept Comey from testifying by asserting executive privelege you know obama would have done that. But trump said let him testify. You don't do that when you have something to hide.
Hear about the girl arrested for leaking at the NSA. She is going to jail and will do ten years. Bye bye don't do the crime if you can't do the time. I think Robert Blake said that
Comey came off as a disgruntled employee who has never been fired before. He said he took notes on all of his telephone and private meets with trump. He never did that with obama. They kept asking Comey if trump asked him if he was being investigated for collusion and that trump wanted that stopped. He kept telling them no. That was true he was never investigated on collision with Russia because there was no proof that he did. The answer was no. They also asked him if he was ordered by trump to end the investigation of the general his adviser. The answer was no he just said he hoped it would end because the general was a good guy. Lastly and best was Comey said he want a special consul to investigate trump after he was fired. He tried to make sure that happened by sending a note with a friend to the New York Times. He admitted he was a leaker.
Comey was under oath when he gave his testimony. So if he's lying, then he is subject to perjury. That seems almost inconceivable. While Comey is far from perfect, he comes off as infinitely more believable than Trump.
Comey called b.s. on Trump's ridiculous claim to have taped their conversations. Think about it - if Trump did have Comey on tape and it was favorable for Trump, why wouldn't Trump rush to discredit him by releasing the tapes?
While I was surprised at the revelation of leaking the memo to his buddy at Columbia, remember it was unclassified information. Also, Trump has shown a penchant for trying to block free press when it suits him. Two examples: 1) only allowing Russian media into meeting last month and barring U.S. media; 2) attacking any story that criticizes him as "fake news" on multiple occasions.
The biggest takeaway I had was the meeting Comey described that included Sessions, Kushner, and other high level admin. The meeting broke up and Trump told Comey that they would meet alone. Kushner & Sessions lingered because they knew what Trump was going to do - ask Comey to stop the Russian investigation and to back off of Flynn. Trump dismissed Kushner & Sessions so that there would be no witnesses. Trump then appealed to Comey to stop investing Flynn and the Russian ties.
Based upon his first meeting with Trump, Comey said that he didn't trust to tell the truth. To me, that says everything. The FBI Director could not trust the leader of the free world to be honest. Comey made the point that has been overlooked - this is not a Democrat or Republican issue - it's an American issue. If the president or his campaign colluded with an enemy, that should upset everyone in America - regardless of party affiliation.
Goombah did you hear Comey's testimony or just word of mouth. One of the reasons he said he leaked what trump told him was to get the special prosecutor to get the tapes that trump said he had if he had them. The key words that trump said was I Hope. That is not a request by any normal persons standards. Even though Comey tried to make it seemed like an order. That was no order. Obama's DOJ told Comey to call Hilary criminal investigate the Hillary matter and not a criminal investigation and Comey did it. That may or may not be criminal on her and him.
Good points, especially the last one. I think the country is too divided to see it that way. Trump is sure framing it as a vendetta against him by the Dem.s and the media.
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Thanks for the rundown. I recorded the testimony on cspan and gonna watch it in full this weekend but it's not looking good for Trump. As Goombah said...head of the FBI is saying these things "under oath". This isn't his first rodeo. I got the impression that Comey was implying that HE had tapes.
I watched the full testimony, and the farce the previous day by the other 4 directors - who all DID assert executive privilege to maintain their own careers above telling the truth to the senate. Every American should see a red light there
Comey went there voluntarily for a reason, because he knows he's done basically nothing wrong, or at worst, acted in good faith. Trump was acting like he was managing a macdonalds joint - worrying times ahead for a year or so, however, he will no doubt get impeached.
All this bullshit is a natural reaction though, Trumps an egotistical businessman trying to create yet another fake "dynasty" off the back of a long running (shit) foreign policy America seems to always pursue
Goombah did you hear Comey's testimony or just word of mouth. One of the reasons he said he leaked what trump told him was to get the special prosecutor to get the tapes that trump said he had if he had them. The key words that trump said was I Hope. That is not a request by any normal persons standards. Even though Comey tried to make it seemed like an order. That was no order. Obama's DOJ told Comey to call Hilary criminal investigate the Hillary matter and not a criminal investigation and Comey did it. That may or may not be criminal on her and him.
Yes I watched it all. If the best argument is that Trump "hoped," then that's a weak position. That's as lame as Bill Clinton arguing the definition of "is." Trump has a long history of first trying to charm someone, then intimidate/bully them if charming failed.
It will be interesting to see whether some on the right start to distance themselves from Trump. It's becoming clear that Trump is incapable of governing. His only accomplishment in five months is confirming SCOTUS nominee. Healthcare is DOA, the tax revisions were largely dependent on passing healthcare, and the govt is headed for a shutdown in the fall.
If I was a Trump voter, what would really disappoint me is how this self-professed genius has been so easily manipulated. The Russians played Trump, he looked like a baffoon with the Saudis, and it looked like even the Pope wanted to be anywhere but in a room with Trump.
You know what trump should do if Russia did play him. He should press the bottom on Russia now. Kill them all what could happen they push the bottom on us. So what at least the fag left would see they were wrong before they all died.
its strange that with all the times [9] thay comey met with trump, the president never asked him to investigate the russian hacking, only indicates trump doesn't want anyone to know anything about it, the russians im afraid have him blackmailed.
The celebrities are spending their money on 4 congressional elections so far and they lost them all. Keep doing it no one cares what they think or say.
The G-20 two-day meeting between the 19 most important industrial and emerging economies in the world (plus the European Union) will begin with a discussion on the fight against global warming. US President Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin will not take part in that, however, and have scheduled a formal meeting with each other instead.
Nothing needs to be invented with Trump, he will go down as the worst president in History. I have a $10,000 bet that there will be a Praetorian situation within his first two years. Think that one over.
Trump is ok but he is used to running things in his businesses you cant do it as president. The left hates him. Also a lot of the people on the right hate him. He can't repeal obama care republicans have been winning elections for 8 yrs on promising to get rid of it. Now they have all three branches and still can't get rid of it. Now fuck them all the left and the right all fucking liars. I voted for Romney and MCCain. Then MCCain votes no on repeal. He comes back to vote no. I think MCCain should die already. I think we need a third party a populist party and fuck the other two parties. I would not vote for any of them again. Yes, all the news stations are left. Who watches them anymore. Still think the Russians caused Hillary to lose? Well what happen to that special procurator investigation. It was bullshit and why was a special procuring even allowed when republicans had all three branches. The republicans want it to try and get rid of trump so pence can become president. So fuck pence too. Maybe they want another civil war because that is what will happen if they get trump out. Then put Pence in. To replace him.
Hey let's destroy ever statue of everyone in the United States Jefferson he was a slave owner who wrote the Declaration of Independence who freed his slaves and died poor because of it. Let's destroy washingtons statue let's destroy Columbus Statue the left wants them all destroyed. I love the white anarchaisrs kicking a statue of a dead person. I want to see them kicking a real person when they don't out number them. White supremes can't recruit anymore so they do the charlottes rally to recruit new members. Then the left send their guys to fight them for publicity. Trump has been against kkk and Duke fior decades but the left likes to say he is a racist. I have found when white people call someone a racist it is actually them that are racists. They love when an innocent gets killed so they can use it. Not because they actually care about the person that died. They use that girl stupid enough to believe their lies.
Trump was in Texas yesterday talking about his "crowd" more than the victims. Who were the people cheering? Who cheers when people are still missing? Did Trump plant these audience members? I notice the camera never shows them. The victims of the Hurricane are in survival mode. They're tired. Many of them are grieving. They're not going to rallies and cheering, like going to a ball game. Just a bizarre scene.
Trump has lived his entire life in a bubble. It goes with being born rich. He's still the Apprentice host. He's still the flashy hotel developer. He's still his own hype man. Even in times of tragedy he can't get out of that bubble.
Trump was in Texas yesterday talking about his "crowd" more than the victims. Who were the people cheering? Who cheers when people are still missing? Did Trump plant these audience members? I notice the camera never shows them. The victims of the Hurricane are in survival mode. They're tired. Many of them are grieving. They're not going to rallies and cheering, like going to a ball game. Just a bizarre scene.
Trump has lived his entire life in a bubble. It goes with being born rich. He's still the Apprentice host. He's still the flashy hotel developer. He's still his own hype man. Even in times of tragedy he can't get out of that bubble.
The people who live in a bubble are the Washington D.C swamp and anyone who supports them.
Don't know. I've never been to D.C., and there's certainly no reason to visit in the next four years. I just wonder if people in a severely storm damaged region would act like they're at a pep rally when watching Trump speak. Who were these people? Why were they cheering when so many people are suffering right now? What were they celebrating?
Don't know. I've never been to D.C., and there's certainly no reason to visit in the next four years. I just wonder if people in a severely storm damaged region would act like they're at a pep rally when watching Trump speak. Who were these people? Why were they cheering when so many people are suffering right now? What were they celebrating?
Because that is what leaders do. Unlike previous administrations who lead from behind. Democratic governor from Louisiana and Republican Texas governor both praised Trump. Funny how this does not get mentioned enough by the fake news media.
Who were these people, anyway? Did Trump bring them in himself? It's hard to believe masses of people anywhere in Texas would be cheering right now. The state is in one of its biggest crises ever. Even areas that weren't immediately impacted by the storm will be impacted economically. WTF was Trump celebrating? What were those people celebrating?
Who were these people, anyway? Did Trump bring them in himself? It's hard to believe masses of people anywhere in Texas would be cheering right now. The state is in one of its biggest crises ever. Even areas that weren't immediately impacted by the storm will be impacted economically. WTF was Trump celebrating? What were those people celebrating?
The people of Texas want a leader like Trump, a man of action and words of encouragement during difficult times. Not Trump haters that concentrate on Melania's shoes reported by no other than the fake news media and spewed by leftist liberals.
Now we all know just how stupid oak really is. The only people who bus people in would be the anarchists of the left. It would not surprise me if the left bussed in looters to pay them for all the other things they did this past year. No Columbus Day if they do that in New York who would attend the other name they want to give the parade held on that day. Indeginous people day parade ha ha surely we all want to go to that parade don't we?
Always worth a laugh to be called stupid by someone who's barely literate.
As far as Columbus goes, he was an awful person. Who cares if his holiday is renamed? If Italians can't find anyone better than him to honor, then maybe we ought to just pass the holiday on to another ethnic group or nationality.
"Hey Sean, when did you stop beating your wife?" Pirro asked, adding that the "Fast Times at Ridgemont High" star's coziness with deceased Venezuelan Communist President Hugo Chavez is ironic in the face of his criticism of Trump.
LMAO
Not just a known beater of women but a racist to boot. And his son's a racist. And where did his son learn that behavior from?
Did Penn even finish high school? If he didn't get into acting through nepotism and coming from a rich family he would probably be pumping gas.
Who gives a shit what he thinks about anything?
I like Robert De Niro as an actor but if you listen to him in interviews it's clear he doesn't have two brain cells to rub together. His reliance on profanity is an indicator of this.
Nothing needs to be invented with Trump, he will go down as the worst president in History. I have a $10,000 bet that there will be a Praetorian situation within his first two years. Think that one over.
Did you here about the fake news awards that Trump will give out in a day or two.
The winner will be the guy that said that Wall Street will tank in Trump is elected.
Amen brother. The ceo of Apple ( Tim Cook )announced the new tax plan will not only creat thousands of new jobs but Apple is hiring thousands alone. He admitted to a reporter that the trump tax plan will create many new jobs.. Wait, wasnt this tax plan only for the rich ??? Lol This guy Trump is on fire !!!! He gets things done. The american people want results not a “ good speaker “...
Even Bryan Cranston brought up the point that, even if you don't like the man, surely you would put aside your vitriol to want the best for the economy and the country?
Did you here about the fake news awards that Trump will give out in a day or two.
The winner will be the guy that said that Wall Street will tank in Trump is elected.
Amen brother. The ceo of Apple ( Tim Cook )announced the new tax plan will not only creat thousands of new jobs but Apple is hiring thousands alone. He admitted to a reporter that the trump tax plan will create many new jobs.. Wait, wasnt this tax plan only for the rich ??? Lol This guy Trump is on fire !!!! He gets things done. The american people want results not a “ good speaker “...
Also announced every employee will get a 2500 dollar bonus.
[quote=Footreads]Denzel Washington said the same thing as Bryan Cranston.
Now if we can get the fake tough guy Robert DeNiro to say the same thing I might watch the Irishmen when it comes out on Netflix instead of cancelling my subscription to Netflix the minute they release it.
You do know the trump dossier is total bullshit right. They got the work of fiction so the democrats can get a warrant to bug his building. So how is holland going to do in this World Cup. We all know the US is out. But holland I am surprised the Dutch are not jumping in the canal.
LAS VEGAS—Not long after the billionaire casino mogul Steve Wynn opened his flagship Wynn Las Vegas in 2005, a manicurist who worked there arrived at the on-site salon visibly distressed following an appointment in Mr. Wynn’s office.
Sobbing, she told a colleague Mr. Wynn had forced her to have sex, and she repeated that to others later.
LAS VEGAS—Not long after the billionaire casino mogul Steve Wynn opened his flagship Wynn Las Vegas in 2005, a manicurist who worked there arrived at the on-site salon visibly distressed following an appointment in Mr. Wynn’s office.
Sobbing, she told a colleague Mr. Wynn had forced her to have sex, and she repeated that to others later.
Did you see the warm welcome the World Economic Forum in Davos gave to president Trump. The forum founder Klaus Schwab applauded Trump, he introduced the US president with a congratulatory speech, making his support clear. Trump said he made new friends. He also made an excellent speech. Too bad fake news media will not report this.
Glad he made the best of an embarrassing situation, his wife being noticeably absent from the trip.
Big friggin deal. The bottom line is this guy gets results.. who cares about the other nonsense.. i can care less if he paid off a porn star, i can care less if his wife didnt show up, i can care less if he insulted a senator.. i want effin results and this guy delivers. I admire those that take action and do what they say. Looks like this wall may get built after all. My accountant said i will “benefit nicely†from his new tax bill and im not rich. I guess the bs about the tax bill only helping the rich is another effin lie.
Clinton got away with Monica Lewinsky because people that supported him looked at the big picture. The guy lied on camera with his famous lie. Trump paid off a porn star before his presidency with his own money.
Did you see the warm welcome the World Economic Forum in Davos gave to president Trump. The forum founder Klaus Schwab applauded Trump, he introduced the US president with a congratulatory speech, making his support clear. Trump said he made new friends. He also made an excellent speech. Too bad fake news media will not report this.
Of course they are business leaders his kind of people.
Home depot, JP morgan, starbucks, comcast, disney, walmart, apple, and a shit load of other companies just announced increasing wages and hiring more people. Also giving bonuses. Why??? The new Trump tax plan. What do the fuckin liars at cnn and msnbc have to say about that !!!!! Those lazy, excuse making, liberal mother fuckers are running out of ammo.
Home depot, JP morgan, starbucks, comcast, disney, walmart, apple, and a shit load of other companies just announced increasing wages and hiring more people. Also giving bonuses.
Did you see the warm welcome the World Economic Forum in Davos gave to president Trump. The forum founder Klaus Schwab applauded Trump, he introduced the US president with a congratulatory speech, making his support clear. Trump said he made new friends. He also made an excellent speech. Too bad fake news media will not report this.
Of course they are business leaders his kind of people.
RNC plants. Like the ones he brought to Houston to cheer him on, while real Houston people were salvaging their belongings.
Home depot, JP morgan, starbucks, comcast, disney, walmart, apple, and a shit load of other companies just announced increasing wages and hiring more people. Also giving bonuses.
Teenagers across the nation are celebrating.
Really ?? Teenagers?? Celebrating new jobs from jp morgan, cateplliar, Intel, and united technologies??? Really. I think not. It all about the middle class. No more excuses.
OakAsFan, Are you saying that the Trump economic policies are bad because the companies didn't give big enough bonuses? Was the Obama economy worse when they didn't give any bonuses? What would the companies have to do to make you happy?
You dont buy into the truth. That said, i dont believe for a minute that you dont think Trump is great for the economy and great as a president. For whatever reason you just like being anti american. Typical liberal behavior.
Home depot, JP morgan, starbucks, comcast, disney, walmart, apple, and a shit load of other companies just announced increasing wages and hiring more people. Also giving bonuses.
Teenagers across the nation are celebrating.
Oak, what not was said, was some of those new hirings will be for older members who are about 5 to 10 years from collecting their social security. Home Depot and Ace Hardware have an average age of 45 depending on which store you go to, while I can see Lowes and Wal-Mart hiring more teenagers. JP Morgan hires college graduates mostly. Most teenagers have summer jobs, while some have part time jobs throughout the year, while some don't work, due to their parents being loaded, drug users, or doing crime.
Hey Oakasfan What about all those other companies such as jp morgan, goldman sachs, catepilliar, united technologies, Intel Corp, home depot, and MMM ( three m )?those are only a few,. Stop the bs. You know Trump is helping out the middle class in a huge way and he is helping you. Even though you are probably some rich guy purporting to be middleclass.
Holy crap, I'm rich now! Here I was dwelling over having to go back to work tomorrow. Glad I came here first to get the good news. I think I'll just wing to the Bahamas instead. Or perhaps, Marrr Aaaa Laaaaago. I can be Trump's wing man. He's single again.
The FAKE NEWS Russian collusion is starting to backfire on the Democrats. Andrew McCabe from the FBI (which now stands for Fake Bureau of Investigation) has resigned today. There will be many more FBI agents that will be resigning in the near future once all the facts come out. I would not be surprised that some may even go to jail. This scandal will make Watergate look like small potatoes.
The memo is just a prelude of what is to come. Think about it, Andrew McCabe is the number 2 at the FBI. If there is no significance then why was he removed from office ? Stay tuned there will be more FBI agents that will be removed. When inspector General Michael Horowitz's investigation comes to an end, a grand jury will be convened and that is when everything will start crumbling for the democrats. The Hillary resistance or secret society and the mainstream media complicity will all be exposed. Trump will emerge unscathed through all of this.
Your discontent for President Trump is obvious. Two questions for you Oak: 1. What would you do different? 2. What do you think that Hillary would've done different to make our country better than it is now? I don't want to hear anything about race.
I don't see the democrats do anything to help minorities. Democrats just want them to collect welfare and give them food stamps so that they can control them and secure their votes. At least Trump gives them jobs and wants to create a safe environment for them so that they can prosper.
All this race baiting the democrats engage in will one day backfire on them. More and more people are starting to get fed up with this bullshit and made up lies.
Rush Limbaugh talked about it today. What a coincidence, the day of the state of the union address and the Dow goes down. I wouldn't be surprised Sorros and his buddies had something to do with this like selling their stock and then buy them back at a cheaper price at a later date ;but I will guarantee you that it will get back to normal again. Sorros has a history of manipulating markets.
Rush mentions it many times on his radio show how predictable the leftist democrats are that a pattern has emerged.
Every time Trump gets a good day/week. Fake news CNN and the rest of the mainstream media come up with a distraction or made up lie.
Ahh, poor Trump's going stag again. Melania took off without him. Have they even been seen together since porno-gate?
It shows that the Democrats are so desperate and resort to lies. In the primaries they threw the kitchen sink at him,insulted his family and children, called him a misogynist, that he abused women, a racist, a clown, mentally unstable, markets were going to crash, the economy was going to tank if elected president,accused him of Russian collusion, having an affair with Niki Haley and now this porno star thing; and Trump just fights back by saying "is that all you got". It pretty well sums it up.
You still haven't answered my questions. Loss for words? If Hillary would've won and things were going like they are now, I'd have the balls to admit it. That's the problems with you liberals. A bunch of Fucking cry babies. It wasn't more evident than last night when they couldn't stand up to clap. What kind of example are they setting? If you don't get your way, you act like a spoiled brat? First year of presidency and he accomplished more than the last eight years. GO TRUMP!
It actually is customary for both parties of congress to stand and cheer during SOTU addresses, but, come on. We're talking about Donald Trump here, not a real president. I think everyone is just taking in the freak show.
The liberals hate the fact that a guy with balls is in the white house. They are dying to turn men into a bunch of little girls. Fuck em. A man needs balls and brains., Trump has both. I love the fact that he never backs down. So many politicians say this and that and then eventually fold. Not this guy. The man is a machine. I wouldnt be surprised if he sends the national guard into chicago.. I also saw what that kennedy kid said last night during his speech. How many times have we heard the exact words. He even stsrted speaking spanish..sorry , thats been done already by about a thiusand other liberals including the former vice presidential candidtate running with Hillary the skank. That kennedy kid sounded like half a fag., ironically, JFK is one of my favorites.
Oh and yes, I think President Trump did a Great job last night.
The only thing I cannot understand is how so many people who represent the American People would not applaud or rise from there seats to show support of the Outstanding positive message OUR President was sending.
Leave it to Trump to appoint a top health official who buys stock..... in a tobacco company!
What an embarrassment. These people really don't have a clue.
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President Donald Trump's top public health official resigned Wednesday amid mounting questions about financial conflicts of interest.
Dr. Brenda Fitzgerald's resignation comes one day after POLITICO reported that one month into her tenure as CDC director, she bought shares in a tobacco company. Fitzgerald had long championed efforts to cut tobacco use, which is the leading cause of preventable death.
“Leave it to Trump to appoint a top health official who buys stock..... in a tobacco company!â€
Typical liberal, irrational thing to say and it makes no sense. Im more concerned with the health official doing a good job and getting things done. If he gets the job done, i dont care if he owns stock in dildo america corp...The liberals complain about the things Trump says, who fuckin cares. I care about what he accomplishes. I voted for a man to make america better and to actually get things done. I dont give a fuck how he speaks or how he inspires a crowd.. what the frig does that do for america?? Democratic show boating is getting old. Democrats are talkers, Trump is a walker. The man has a tunnel vision and nothing is going to stop him. Tax reform was equivalent to turning a cruise ship in a lagoon: no one thought it could happen. Trump made it happen and its a damn good tax bill.
CDC director.....tobacco stocks. A top health official investing in a product that is one of the leading causes of cancer. How much of a Trump loyalist does one have to be to not see the irony in this?
So, I guess you'd also be okay with a secretary of defense owning stock in a Chinese weapon manufacturer...
Or....an attorney general owning stock in a company that sells police scanners, or in a law firm that specializes in criminal defense.
Then again, when you consider we have a president that colludes with a foreign country, I guess these things are par for the course in Trump's America. .
Collusion...they will be talking about that for a hundred years and guess what,there is no evidence. There was no collusion. Even the email scandal with hillary, i dont give a fuck, i want to move on amd have someone in the white house with balls and someone who actually does something. Trump does it in spades, the guy is a fuckin machine and he aint stoppin.
Leave it to Trump to appoint a top health official who buys stock..... in a tobacco company!
What an embarrassment. These people really don't have a clue.
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President Donald Trump's top public health official resigned Wednesday amid mounting questions about financial conflicts of interest.
Dr. Brenda Fitzgerald's resignation comes one day after POLITICO reported that one month into her tenure as CDC director, she bought shares in a tobacco company. Fitzgerald had long championed efforts to cut tobacco use, which is the leading cause of preventable death.
Democrat logic: Tobacco is bad for your health but Pot is good let's legalize it. Not to mention TED Kennedy, father & sponsor of the health bill but yet the family fortune was earned from the sales of alcohol. What an embarrassment for these Kennedy's they really don't have a clue....LOL
Not only is the economy on fire, we finally have tax reform, regulations have been reduced, ISIS is getting decimated. MS 13 are getting decimated as well.. if we had a democrat in the white house, none of the aforementioned would have occurred. Blacks have more opportunity than they ever did, however, its up to them to take the initiative and make smart decisions to improve their lives. The government cant do that for them.
Tobacco is one of the leading causes of cancer. (Marijuana is not). Anyone in the health care industry investing in tobacco stocks is effed up enough as it is. The CDC director doing it? Only Trump. lol. Only Trump.
Ironic that you would call a “proven winner†a loser. That makes about as much sense as all your other nonsense you post. I post fact, you post fiction and fantasy. Im pretty certain you dont even work.
Tobacco is one of the leading causes of cancer. (Marijuana is not). Anyone in the health care industry investing in tobacco stocks is effed up enough as it is. The CDC director doing it? Only Trump. lol. Only Trump.
Don't take my word for it. Smoke away. If Trump could work a couple of packs per day into his fast food diet, we might not need to impeach him after all.
Oh, I get it..... your just one of those who hate.
Hate NY or anyone from the area.
That’s the only thing I can come away with after a few of your reads. No worries, you may come around, one day. After you give away all that then consumes yours.
The release of the FISA memo will be the start of the democrat's downfall. This is much bigger than watergate. The DNC and Hillary will be exposed for what they are crooked,liars and dishonest. The mainstream media will also be exposed as being accomplices to this attempted coup by left wing socialist fanatics.
Tobacco is one of the leading causes of cancer. (Marijuana is not). Anyone in the health care industry investing in tobacco stocks is effed up enough as it is. The CDC director doing it? Only Trump. lol. Only Trump.
Bullshit........hyperbole !
There is plenty of hyperbole from both sides in this thread, but what about the statement you quoted was?
You guys don't even try to listen to each other in here, and that's basically a small scale of the nation as whole today. "I'm right, you're wrong, fuck you."
The release of the FISA memo will be the start of the democrat's downfall. This is much bigger than watergate. The DNC and Hillary will be exposed for what they are crooked,liars and dishonest. The mainstream media will also be exposed as being accomplices to this attempted coup by left wing socialist fanatics.
Congress passed that law. I don't think many have read it or know what is about. There are a few problems with the laws in it, but the main one I have in it, is section 702. Our intelligence agencies does not need to get warrent to intercept or overhear foreign communications, thus a U.S. citizen would be swept up in it without knowing that their rights have been violated and it is perfectly legal thanks to the patriot act.
Funny that these abuses did not come up for discussion or debate during the recent reauthorization of FISA 702. Does this imply Congress just reauthorized an act that is known to be actively abused? Nunes voted yes, btw. I'm looking for a logical, non-political argument, for that glaring inconsistency. I've yet to see one anywhere.
Special counsel Robert Mueller’s Russia investigation has gathered enough steam that some lawyers representing key Donald Trump associates are considering the possibility of a historic first: an indictment against a sitting president.
Funny that these abuses did not come up for discussion or debate during the recent reauthorization of FISA 702. Does this imply Congress just reauthorized an act that is known to be actively abused? Nunes voted yes, btw. I'm looking for a logical, non-political argument, for that glaring inconsistency. I've yet to see one anywhere.
Ghost voting. It is a lot more common with politicians. If a vote comes up and they are not there or away from their vote button, another member of the party who is sitting next to them will vote in their place.
Thanks for posting that Oak, I felt there would be indictments this summer, but looks like this spring.
Im aware of ghost voting. But Nunes actually cast his on the reauthorization, so that doesnt apply here. If they had concerns about FISA abuses they had ample opportunity to address them before the vote three weeks ago.
Full disclosure - ive long opposed the Patriot act but I support the memos release now that its become such an issue. I also want the response memo released, and the initial FISA application, as this was renewing, not initially requesting. Page has been said to have been investigated going back to at least 2013.
They don't even say that the Steele Dossier was the sole basis for the application (or subsequent 3 renewals which each must be based on new and different probable cause). This doesn't at all say what many thought it would. It also states that there are parts of the Steele dossier that are corroborated.
The FISA judge was not given all the information regarding this dossier that was funded by the Hillary campaign.
Furthermore top level FBI and DOJ staff engaged in partisan politics and tactics that you would find in banana republic countries.
If you take this memo and couple it with text messages, that are currently being released in piece meal, between FBI agent Peter Strzok and his mistress Lisa Page, it comes apparent that they were out to get president Trump.
This will certainly trigger other investigations and jail time for those involved. Shame on them.
Special counsel Robert Mueller’s Russia investigation has gathered enough steam that some lawyers representing key Donald Trump associates are considering the possibility of a historic first: an indictment against a sitting president.
The memo clearly states it was PapaD that kicked off the investigation, not the dossier. But the memo does blow up the theory that the dossier is all fake. And four different judges approved the FISA warrants, on four separate occasions, so there's that as well.
Also, given that Gowdy, not Nunes, is the one Republican who actually read the intel upon which the memo is based, this is significant:
Trey Gowdy Trey Gowdy @TGowdySC As I have said repeatedly, I also remain 100 percent confident in Special Counsel Robert Mueller. The contents of this memo do not - in any way - discredit his investigation.
Not that these madcap fantasies of widespread anarchy prophesied by Trump supporters should be taken seriously, but to whom it may concern, "the public" seems to believe Trump should cooperate with investigators.
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A large majority of Americans in both political parties think President Donald Trump should consent to an interview with special counsel Robert Mueller, according to a new poll.
The Monmouth University survey released Thursday found that 71% of Americans think Trump should agree to an interview, including 85% of Democrats, 74% of independents and 51% of Republicans. If Trump does agree to an interview, 82% of respondents think he should do it under oath, including 67% of Republicans.
The Dow Jones industrial average dropped 665.75 points to close at 25,520.96, capping off the index's sixth-largest points decline ever. The 30-stock index also fell below 26,000. Friday also marked the first time since June 2016 that the Dow fell at least 500 points.
Amazing how sympathetic democrats become to illegals when they need their votes. I truly believe both clinton and obama were speaking from the heart: they dont like illegal aliens coming here and polluting our country.
Clinton and Obama on Illegal Immigration & Border. Trump's reaction? Priceless!
Both Clintons and Chuck Schumer said that a wall needed to be built before Trump came along. John McCain made a promise to crack down on illegal immigration when he ran for president. Immediately after losing to Obama he reverted to his pro illegal immigrant position. Most politicians are shameless liars.
Mexican immigrants are needed because they're more valuable to the business world than unemployed Americans. Show me a hotel that employees only American citizens and I'll show you a place with a check in time of 10pm.
"...Billy quit because he's tired of working Saturdays. We're trying to get your room ready"
I have been laughing hard. Manafort just lost his suit to the FBI, and the Nunes report was just an edited report, which Trump released the whole thing which he did not realize, as he was trying to prove that the FBI are corrupt and trying to get him, and now has slowly backed himself into a corner. So it looks like indictments are coming down this spring, and Trump just started to tie his own noose.
If Democrats take back the congress, Trump will resign. He'd never stick around to be impeached. Not his style. His image is his top priority. Next would be his businesses. Then his personal possessions. Then, maybe, some of his family. The country is way, way down there on the list, somewhere....
If Democrats take back the congress, Trump will resign. He'd never stick around to be impeached. Not his style. His image is his top priority. Next would be his businesses. Then his personal possessions. Then, maybe, some of his family. The country is way, way down there on the list, somewhere....
And if the Republicans maintain control of congress, then Hillary and her resistance friends will be thrown in jail where they belong.
Well, Republicans have control of congress now, and you can see how smoothly things are running...
I would have to guess that if Republicans maintain control of congress, absolutely nothing will change. The same freak show will resume, and Hillary will continue to eat her popcorn like the rest of us.
Best Buy is a decent size company. Are they only giving this bonus to employees in the retail department or company wide?
I only care about the retail departments. That's what this is all about, right? The little guy? Wasn't that Trump's promise? As far as company wide bonuses go, i.e., corporate bonuses, that's the same old status quo. They've always gotten their bonuses.
BTW, isn't Best Buy one of these retailers that rents space within their stores to brand name manufacturers who bring in their own employees? How many actual Best Buy store level employees are there?
Well, Republicans have control of congress now, and you can see how smoothly things are running...
I would have to guess that if Republicans maintain control of congress, absolutely nothing will change. The same freak show will resume, and Hillary will continue to eat her popcorn like the rest of us.
The leftist liberal democrats have no understanding of how smooth things are. They are always miserable, they always see the glass half empty, they always play the victim card,they need their safe space,everybody is a racist except for themselves. Even when they are given more jobs, benefits and bonuses they are still not happy. I bet you most of them are on prozac or bipolar medications. Does this sound familiar to you ?
I seriously doubt Best Buy has a lot of full time customer service support agents. This is primarily part time work in today's job market. Retailers just do not hire people full time to do these things. It's more efficient from their angle to rotate part time employees, mostly young people, and people just trying to supplement other incomes. The "side hustle", as Uber likes to call it.
Best Buy is not one of our nation's great full time job providers. They are part of a shrinking brick and mortar retail industry. Whatever employees do receive bonuses will probably be laid off at some point this year.
Interesting regarding the Prozac. I believe NYT did an article just before the election about Trump supporters in rural America, and mental illness....
Interesting regarding the Prozac. I believe NYT did an article just before the election about Trump supporters in rural America, and mental illness....
Wasn't a pretty picture.
I see you are familiar with Prozac proves my point.
Gimma a break Oakasfan, i clearly told you about apple, google, catepilliar, united technologies, home depot, lowes, and jp morgan just to name a few. those are all legitimate full time jobs. By the way, a lot of the aforementioned companies are not only giving raises but bonuses as well. Trump is a job creating machine. He could very well go down as one of the best presidents in history as far as accomplishments. Then again, all presidents should be judged on accomplishments, not ability to give a good speech.
Part timers get 500 and it is only a 1 time deal for hourly employees which they say is over 100000. It could be severance for the dying retail business it's just easier to order online
How many full time retail workers do you know? I'll bet a decade ago, you maybe knew one or two. If you're old enough to remember the '80s and '70s, I'll bet you knew a handful of people who worked full time in retail. Today? How many? How many people do you know who work full time at a Rite Aid, or a Best Buy, or a Target, or a grocery store, or anything like that? Full. Time. Not 32 hours. Not management. Regular, non-management retail workers. I'll bet for most of you, it's none. The media gets their business information from company spokespeople. The NY Post is reporting that Best Buy is raining cash on its employees right now because....Best Buy's PR people are telling them that.
Good point Oak, Wal-Mart, Lowes and Target workers work 32 hours a week, unless it is the holiday season, then they work 36 hours a week, but are not full time, I know cause I have exes that work in those stores. It's so the company doesn't have to pay health insurance.
How many full time retail workers do you know? I'll bet a decade ago, you maybe knew one or two. If you're old enough to remember the '80s and '70s, I'll bet you knew a handful of people who worked full time in retail. Today? How many? How many people do you know who work full time at a Rite Aid, or a Best Buy, or a Target, or a grocery store, or anything like that? Full. Time. Not 32 hours. Not management. Regular, non-management retail workers. I'll bet for most of you, it's none. The media gets their business information from company spokespeople. The NY Post is reporting that Best Buy is raining cash on its employees right now because....Best Buy's PR people are telling them that.
First you claimed they have no full timers since 1997. Now you say there are only a few.
Oakasfan You are using typical liberal defection tactics. I just gave you a long list of companies that are not only hiring because of the trump tax, but also raising wages and giving bonuses.. apple, google, catepilliar, united technologies, home depot, jp morgan, and goldman sachs.. but yet, you keep mentioning retail as your liberal deflection. With the exception of home depot, none of these are retail !!! What the hell are you talking about. By the way, many blacks get jobs as macdonalds, starbucks, home depot, best buy, and target even though they may be part time. If you have no skills, you cant just start making 100k at apple.
Well like I said I was asking op more about what they posted in regards to who woild reveive the bonus not looking for a discussion of the retail industry.
But since I don't get what your point is. Are saying is Best Buy is just reporting but don't plan on following through with giving 1000 to full time hourly employees and 500 to part time hourly employees (the actual information I was looking for in my first post) Or that the number of employeea receiving thia one time bonus which i think they say is 100000 is false
But I do agree that people who work in retail generally don't get full time but I have to be honest I don't know too many people who work in retail but I guess I'll take your word for it
We need to get the Healthcare companies in check and out of the business of owning Politicians.
Then we can write a real healthcare plan.
When the real money decides to do what is right for the nations people , they will devise and put in place a system of healthcare for all that will put the Health care Monopolies on there knees and the Politicians in the light of exposure that will seal off the coruption they reap upon society.
U.S. stocks are plunging Monday as banks and healthcare and energy companies slip. The Dow Jones industrial average sank more than 1,000 points, more than erasing all the gains it made this year.
Sarah Huckabee Sanders will soon clarify that Dow Jones only briefly volunteered with the campaign in a low level role and Trump’s never even heard of him.
Lots of bullshit in this thread. I know quite a few full timers from CVS and Walmart and not to mention Best Buy. None are management or on salary. Quit believing the shit that's being spread by folks who don't know any better.
You probably can't blame trump or obama for the market, the FED has the most control over the market and there was a massive sell off today because of fears of interest rate hike. Many traders in interviews have been saying the FED is being too aggressive with the interest plans for 2018
Leader of the FED is arguably the most powerful person in the world because they control the rules and regulations of the American dollar. The president should not take credit or blame.
Markets dips the same day a new FED chairman is sworn in coincidence? Probably
Sarah Huckabee Sanders will soon clarify that Dow Jones only briefly volunteered with the campaign in a low level role and Trump’s never even heard of him.
"I don't trust Dow Jones or anyone else at CNN." - Trump
Sarah Huckabee Sanders will soon clarify that Dow Jones only briefly volunteered with the campaign in a low level role and Trump’s never even heard of him.
"I don't trust Dow Jones or anyone else at CNN." - Trump
And you do?
They tried to con us all that Hillary was a lock for the election so we would not go out and Vote for the Greatest New Yorker of all times and it backfired on them.
The Dow Jones is also the same organization that let Maddof run a muck
Dues, you have to understand that there are people who became scared and upset when they heard that handouts were over and people were going to go back to work. I bet there is one poster on here that is proud to still be part of 4.1% unemployed. The same kind of people that would argue that 1+1 doesn't equal two. The same kind of saps that cried when that old hag lost. What the Fuck hurt so bad that would make you cry. That's how I categorize the anti Trump goons nowadays. They wanted to be seen on world wide news crying at campuses all over the country when she lost. That's how I see them when they have negative things to say. They couldn't get their way, Fucking cry about it.
Senators Grassley/Graham memo makes the link between Hillary and the Russians. and it also proves that the FBI lied to the FISA judge. The FISA warrants were bought and paid for by Hillary.
All this time they were bullshitting people in thinking that Trump was colluding with the Russians when in fact according to the Grassley/Graham memo it was Hillary that was colluding with the Russians.
This will certainly open up a new investigation and people will eventually go to jail. Let's hope they start with Hillary.
They will never prove that the fisa judge was lied to. These warrant information are very big thousand pages. They could have stock that in any where.
Any one can be listened to or shown on a video Skype. Anyone
That is part of the reason I am not on social media.
The fbi can do anything they want against anyone they want.
I think if trump was taken down by this there would be a real civil war in this country.
Welcome back Footreads !
They already proved it according to some prominent lawyers I heard speaking on Hannity. Keep in mind that the memo is a summary of thousands of pages of testimony. Sarah Carter one of the investigative reporters who is often on the Hannity show , says this is only 10% of what is to come. It is only the tip of the iceberg. Every week there is more and more evidence coming out.
The FBI texts referred to Obama's interest in the Russian counterintelligence investigation, not the Clinton email investigation.
Fox News' story is a fraud (shocker). There's nothing sinister or illegal about a President wanting information on a foreign adversary attempting to subvert a US election. In fact, it's part of their job.
Johnson is the same guy who was screaming 'secret society' recently, which also turned out to be total bullshit. Perhaps it's time for him to retire.
If any news network that should be accused of fraud then CNN and NBC would win the awards for fake news. Oh yes it slipped my mind they did get fake news awards by Trump.
How can CNN and NBC, be worthy of being called news networks, when all they do is bash Trump from morning to night. Even the National Enquirer gets a story right from time to time. What a joke.
It is now proven that it was Hillary that colluded with the Russians and not Trump. President Obama only needed to look within his administration about fabricating foreign adversary attempting to subvert a US election.
The U.S. official in charge of protecting American elections from hacking says the Russians successfully penetrated the voter registration rolls of several U.S. states prior to the 2016 presidential election.
I tried to remove CNN and MSNBC from my cablevision. They told me they could not do it. I told them for years I wanted to buy my cablevision per channel. Now companies are letting you do it. I told cablevision pretty soon I will drop them. In have been using them since 1992. Soon they will be gone.
"Former President Barack Obama pledged that he did not speak with FBI directors about pending investigations throughout his presidency in a 2016 interview with Fox News’ Chris Wallace."
Page wrote in a Sept. 2, 2016, text exchange with Strzok that she was preparing the talking points because “POTUS wants to know everything we’re doing.†She was referring to President Obama in the text.
If any news network that should be accused of fraud then CNN and NBC would win the awards for fake news. Oh yes it slipped my mind they did get fake news awards by Trump.
How can CNN and NBC, be worthy of being called news networks, when all they do is bash Trump from morning to night. Even the National Enquirer gets a story right from time to time. What a joke.
Fox did the same thing to Obama for 8 years. Not to mention in your other post you're linking to The Daily Caller, which is an absolutely biased news source no matter which way you wanna look at it. The fact is, all media outfits slant one way or the other. Are you going to sit here and tell me The Daily Caller is not biased? This is how the media is, especially these days when the news cycle and hunger for content never stops.
I just don't see how you guys can't see how much these echo chambers harm us as a nation.
If any news network that should be accused of fraud then CNN and NBC would win the awards for fake news. Oh yes it slipped my mind they did get fake news awards by Trump.
How can CNN and NBC, be worthy of being called news networks, when all they do is bash Trump from morning to night. Even the National Enquirer gets a story right from time to time. What a joke.
Fox did the same thing to Obama for 8 years. Not to mention in your other post you're linking to The Daily Caller, which is an absolutely biased news source no matter which way you wanna look at it. The fact is, all media outfits slant one way or the other. Are you going to sit here and tell me The Daily Caller is not biased? This is how the media is, especially these days when the news cycle and hunger for content never stops.
I just don't see how you guys can't see how much these echo chambers harm us as a nation.
Obama's first years in office doesn't even come close to Trump's. Obama's treatment by the mainstream media was that he can't do nothing wrong.
Fox treatment of Obama was fair as well. Fox did have Hannity comment on Obama's past associations with certain shady individuals but Fox network as a whole was fair to him. It was later when incidences like fast&furious, Benghazi and other situations that started to emerge is when Obama was starting to have some negative coverage but it was nothing compared to Trump.
As I stated in the past FOX does hire people with liberal views, such as Juan Williams, Marie Harf (worked for Obama), Geraldo Rivera, Sheppard Smith, Chris Wallace,J.Roberts and much more. FOX network is more balanced, you can here both liberal and conservative points of views. The same cannot be said for CNN or MSNBC. Fox was polled once as having 52% negative coverage of Trump compared to CNN & MSNBC 93% negative coverage. With regards to echo chambers harm, it can be seen very clearly when you have Obama, John Kerry and other prominent democrats travel abroad and undermine the current president.
I do look in the mirror. I read across a wide variety of sources, and not just those that reinforce our natural human tendencies towards confirmation bias.
I also don't believe that my fellow citizens are my enemies because we may have different opinions about policy. I'd like to think that most people do the same. E Pluribus Unum ~shrugs~
The actions of the party you support does not reflect what you just stated. Does your definition of fellow citizens include Donald Trump and the deplorable's ? Does it include respecting the voting process ? Does it include free speech at university campuses and colleges ? Does it include freedom of religion ? I can go on and on.
Maybe that mirror needs cleaning from time to time.
Ciment, can't you just accept that not everyone supports Donald Trump? Doesn't each individual have a right to support or not support any given president?
what party do I support? Does criticizing Fox news make one a democrat?
That's why people should avoid deductive reasoning, and it's resulting false assumptions. I've voted for candidates in both major parties, and for third party on numerous occasions.
I've been a long term free speech and freedom of religion advocate. All speech. All religions. I strongly support the 2A, and own more guns than most people. I'm strongly pro choice. I support a strong military, but I despise authoritarianism. I don't use the term deplorables. I dislike both the hard left and the hard right, and believe in horseshoe theory regarding politics. But please, go on and on....just don't assume. Try asking instead.
I've never seen you go partisan either, Helen. You're pretty good at keeping your criticism to individuals, groups exemplifying a certain behavior, and avoiding identifying people strictly by political affiliations.
Trump wants to arrest people for not applauding his speeches. I guess Ciment is just doing his part under the fascist rule. Making sure everyone supports Trump at the ground level, or else.
what party do I support? Does criticizing Fox news make one a democrat?
That's why people should avoid deductive reasoning, and it's resulting false assumptions. I've voted for candidates in both major parties, and for third party on numerous occasions.
I've been a long term free speech and freedom of religion advocate. All speech. All religions. I strongly support the 2A, and own more guns than most people. I'm strongly pro choice. I support a strong military, but I despise authoritarianism. I don't use the term deplorables. I dislike both the hard left and the hard right, and believe in horseshoe theory regarding politics. But please, go on and on....just don't assume. Try asking instead.
I did not judge you only on FOX news remark but on your overall statements as a whole. From your past statements you seem quick to defend democrats with leftist views and reluctant to give any credit to Trump.So it was fair for me to surmise that you support the democratic party. In my opinion, the democratic party has been taken over by leftists and it is not the same party it used to be when John Kennedy was president . If it is true that you support everything you say up above then we are not too far apart politically. I also despise authoritarianism but where does this fit in the grand scheme of what we are discussing. I hope your not implying Trump of being one.
I've never seen you go partisan either, Helen. You're pretty good at keeping your criticism to individuals, groups exemplifying a certain behavior, and avoiding identifying people strictly by political affiliations.
Trump wants to arrest people for not applauding his speeches. I guess Ciment is just doing his part under the fascist rule. Making sure everyone supports Trump at the ground level, or else.
Oaks I am quite sure you fell on your head when you were born. It's the only explanation for uttering such stupidity.
“Trump wants to arrest people for not applauding his speeches. [/quote]
I never heard trump say that where did he say that? He never said that I have a lot of time to actually hear what he says.i think you mean when he said after the state of the union. That democrats did not applaud what he said about black and Hispanic unemployment getting a lot better. All he actually said only one black democrat applauded he wanted to know his name. Never said a thing about arresting the people who were not happy about it like Pelosi and Senator shut down and the rest of the black caucus
Ciment, can't you just deal with the fact that not everyone agrees with your politics? Is it your goal to question the character or insult any and every person that doesn't share your politics? Why do you do this?
Foots, Trump said the congresspeople who didn't applaud for him are treasonous. Death is one of the possible punishments for treason. So, you're right. What Trump said was even worse than threatening to arrest people. He's threatening to charge people with a crime that could sentence them to death if they don't clap for him. He's a fascist. Hopefully, he fails.
I'm curious as to what someone like Ciment thinks about David Frum, Bill Haslam, Bill Kristol, John Kasich, Mitt Romney, William Weld, Rick Wilson, Evan McMullin, or the entire editorial board of National Review...
These are just some of the lifelong republicans/conservatives who oppose Trump. Not exactly a group of flaming 'leftists'(which has become a word that means absolutely nothing anymore anyway, with the way it gets used )
I'm curious as to what someone like Ciment thinks about David Frum, Bill Haslam, Bill Kristol, John Kasich, Mitt Romney, William Weld, Rick Wilson, Evan McMullin, or the entire editorial board of National Review...
These are just some of the lifelong republicans/conservatives who oppose Trump. Not exactly a group of flaming 'leftists'(which has become a word that means absolutely nothing anymore anyway, with the way it gets used )
Very east to respond,Cement dislikes them just as much as the leftists.
Ciment, can't you just accept that not everyone supports Donald Trump? Doesn't each individual have a right to support or not support any given president?
The answer to your first question is Yes and the answer to your second question is also yes.
So you'd say you're more about Trump, than actual conservative Republican ideological principles? Fair enough.
Thanks for the honest reply. I've been very interested in the people who have abandoned their self professed political principles of conservativism for populism. These are interesting times indeed.
Ciment, can't you just accept that not everyone supports Donald Trump? Doesn't each individual have a right to support or not support any given president?
The answer to your first question is Yes and the answer to your second question is also yes.
(Make America Great Again)
Originally Posted by OakAsFan
Ciment, can't you just deal with the fact that not everyone agrees with your politics? Is it your goal to question the character or insult any and every person that doesn't share your politics? Why do you do this?
The answer to your first question, yes I am aware not everyone agrees. The answer to the second question, Your the one that insults people and had to be warned on several occasions on this board. You brand me a facist or make reference that I support fascism, I will respond back. You have no character, value or honor. All you like to do is bait people on this board and then call foul. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN
So you'd say you're more about Trump, than actual conservative Republican ideological principles? Fair enough.
Thanks for the honest reply. I've been very interested in the people who have abandoned their self professed political principles of conservativism for populism. These are interesting times indeed.
I understand that Trump is a populist and not a true conservative. What he has done is taken some conservative principles so that he can have a base for winning elections.What I like about Trump is that he stands for the blue collar workers that have been neglected for decades and doesn't like the swamp in Washington which includes both republicans and democrats. I noticed that there is a split among conservatives and that the National Review people you mentioned earlier have become more isolated. I find this split to be a good thing.
Ciment- one more question, if you would be so kind...
What is your position on free trade?
TIA
I have no problems with free trade providing that it is fair for both parties. Politicians in that past have signed free trade agreements with no provisions for protecting local jobs.
I think there should be a balance.
I believe we had this discussion prior to the elections if you recall.
I agree about the split in the GOP being a good thing...I'd like to see more viable political parties than just the two we currently have
I'll admit i am confused by your comments on supporting free trade with protection for local jobs. Protective measures do restict free trade. How would you accomplish both?
I agree about the split in the GOP being a good thing...I'd like to see more viable political parties than just the two we currently have
I'll admit i am confused by your comments on supporting free trade with protection for local jobs. Protective measures do restict free trade. How would you accomplish both?
That is the hard part, because some jobs will be eliminated and others will be created. These free trade agreements are designed to create more prosperity for corporations ,in which I have nothing against; but little goes to the workers affected. This is where they(corporations) should strike a balance by either compensating workers or help them get another job. Maybe imposing limits on outsourcing jobs abroad may help as well. I don't profess to have all the solutions but seeing jobs go abroad and having families in america struggling to make ends meet is not the answer. Things could not go on like this indefinitely. This is why something new had to be done.Let's see if this Trump experiment will work.
Who still believes Hillary would have made a good President?
Trump is not a true Republican. That’s why both sides hate him. But he is starting to grow on people.
Romney hates him. But trump did interview him for the Secretary of State job. Trump does not hold a grudge. But I would if I was trump.
Now every republican is getting on the trump bandwagon. Why, because he actually won. He may very well win again. If he picks up republicans in the senate and in congress this year. That would be unheard of but it could happen.
Democratic senator Warner links to Russians and Russian organized crime. He also did not want the rest of the intelligence committee to know that he was communicating with Christopher Steeles.
The new scandle according to the democrats was the Portman resignation. What a scandal that was. He hit his wives a couple of times he is evil. Maybe that news will turn the election in 2018 so the republican won’t win both houses again maybe trump will not win again in 2020 haha.
I met a Russian spy in the 1970s. He lived in the Russian consulate. He did not have the usual Russian accent. He spoke better English then I did. If you did not know you think he was a graduate of Norte dame university.
I said how do you like New York City women. He told me he does not go out with them. He goes out with Russian women who live in the consulate. I said why he was afraid of being black mailed. I said why he told me he was told the fbi girls would drug him and then take compromising photos of him with homo sexuals.
France is not a third world country last time I checked.
Why is it okay to have the Rose parade, St. Patrick's and not okay to have a parade to honor the military soldiers and families for their sacrifice.
The mainstream media is just using this as a distraction to the real scandal at hand. The attempted coup by Hillary & the deep state to subvert the elections. Top level people from the FBI have been removed from their jobs and resigning and the mainstream media don't seem to care about it. They find more interest in attacking Trump about a military parade.
Former Obama State Department official Jonathan Winer, in an attempt to come clean and shape the narrative before being exposed, confirmed that he passed on a dossier from Clinton operatives to the author of the infamous Trump dossier.
“4.2 million hard-working Americans have already received a large Bonus and/or Pay Increase because of our recently Passed Tax Cut & Jobs Bill … and it will only get better!†he wrote. “We are far ahead of schedule.â€
Morgan Stanley analysts expect companies to pass only 13% of Trump tax cut savings directly to workers, vs 43% to share buybacks. For manufacturers, it's 9% / 47%. Workers in this sense include executive management and C suite.
More than four in five Morgan Stanley analysts, across industries, said in a survey that the firms they track will use their tax gains to facilitate buybacks and dividends. Barely one in five said firms would pass even some of the tax gains on to workers.
Remember all the chants of "Lock her up, after she's been given due process and found guilty!"? He has always been a tremendous supporter of due process.
There is no due process or presumption of innocence in public discourse. If Porter wants due process he can take it through our legal system, which is the only place it's applicable.
"Federal abuses on Obama's watch represent a growing blight on his legacy."
Yeah, people that aren't hypocritical assholes vehemently opposed many of his actions while he was in office. The left leaning media was particularly vocal about these abuses of power at the time, eg: Mother Jones, the Nation, Glen Greeenwald, Kos, etc.
Report: CNN to Lay Off up to 50 Employees After Missing Revenue Targets. Despite the so-called Trump Bump, CNN appears to be re-thinking at least some elements of its digital strategy.
William Mendoza was investigated and ultimately charged with attempting to take unsolicited videos and photos up the skirts or shorts of women in several Washington, D.C. metro stations, the Daily Mail reports. He resigned from his position with the Obama administration before the investigation into his actions concluded
Prior to the voyeurism investigation, Mendoza had been accused of assaulting an autistic Native American student for wearing a Washington Redskins shirt in August 2016. Mendoza claimed the student was the aggressor in the confrontation. He was not arrested or charged with any criminal wrongdoing following the incident.
The Obama administration knew that this man had been accused of assaulting an autistic Native American student in August 2016.
And there’s no question that they knew that he was being investigated for looking up women’s skirts after they were also informed in August 2016.
So why was he allowed to stick around another four months until November 2016?
Breaking: Trump Plans To Replace Food Stamps, Here’s How
Ciment, do you consider this to be an unbiased news source? What about Breitbart?
I will concede to you that every news media is biased to a certain degree.
So let us concentrate on the big medias rather than the smaller ones like Breitbart on the right and the countless ones on the left.
Take for example, fake news CNN who bashes Trump from morning to night. Do you want me to believe that Trump never does anything right. One need only put their hatred aside and just use common sense that this cannot be possible. I have no problems if the opposition wants to criticize him on policies but all they do is make fun of his hair, he's mentally unfit, he drinks 10 diet cokes a day, he is racist and attack his family. It is total a disgrace what the mainstream media has become and it insults my intelligence.
Ciment I never was like am today when voting. If some one made sense on the other side I would be fore that. But today the democrat party is so over the top I can vote for a democrat anymore.
I get called by pollsters all the time any they ask me for oppionion son issues.
One pollster asked me about Governor Cuomo. She kept calling him Como I tolder Como was a singer in the 50s. Cuomo is our Governor she asked me about him running for President. I told her people are moving out of NY in droves. So no I did tell her I liked his father a lot better.
Then they asked the same thing about DeBlasio I said I like him better now then before because our pizza eating with a fork mayor can be bought. I like any politician that can be bought.
Then finally she asked about Hildabran and Schumer. I told her Hildabran is cute but she curses like a 10 dollar whore I don’t like women who do that.
Shimmer I called him shutdown Schumer who’s protege was Anthony show his Weiner and now Akeem Jeffries who was worse then Weiner if you ever been too a town hall meeting with Jeffries.
I know what you mean about them being over the top. I used to enjoy watching CNN years ago. I even used to watch MSNBC Chris Matthews when he would debate with republicans. He used to be more tolerable back then. Now all he does is spew garbage out of his mouth. I never got over that tingle up his leg.Things are not like they used to be.
Stormy Daniels, the porn star whom President Donald Trump’s personal attorney acknowledged paying $130,000 just before Election Day, believes she is now free to discuss her alleged sexual encounter with Trump, her manager told The Associated Press Wednesday.
Daniels, whose real name is Stephanie Clifford, believes that Trump attorney Michael Cohen invalidated a non-disclosure agreement after two news stories were published Tuesday: One, in which Cohen told The New York Times that he made the six-figure payment with his personal funds, and another in the Daily Beast, which reported that Cohen was shopping a book proposal that would touch on Daniels’ story, said the manager, Gina Rodriguez.
I agree, Moe. Really none of anyone's business, as long as its consenting adults. But, payback's a bitch. Republicans made a big deal out of Clinton doing it, Democrats are going to hammer Trump with this. Why shouldn't they?
An update on a murder cover up that happened in Arkansas while Clinton was Governor; it's suggested that the two teenage victims had stumbled on something they shouldn't have seen and had to be wiped out.
Billy Jack Haynes, huh? Billy-gate. I think a lot of Dems today would be perfectly willing to throw the Clintons under the bus to bury Trump. So, no leverage there.
I agree, Moe. Really none of anyone's business, as long as its consenting adults. But, payback's a bitch. Republicans made a big deal out of Clinton doing it, Democrats are going to hammer Trump with this. Why shouldn't they?
They still bring it up 20 years later..
No one who isn't a prude really gives a shit what consenting adults do. But paying them off out of campaign funds is illegal, and if it really was Cohen's money (highly unlikely ) and not the campaign's he's likely to have his license suspended by the bar for ethics violations (the paying off, not the porn star fucking part)
But the lack of 'moral outrage' from a right-leaning voting cohort that has made such outrage one of the primary defining aspects of their very loud and public self-identification proves just how full of shit those that cloak themselves in false morality really are. I love stuff like that.
Yep. In Trump's case, a law might have been broken regarding campaign funding. All Clinton had to do was stand mute, but he agreed to go under oath to satisfy moderates. The centrist Clintons, for you. They lived and died by it.
When a republican does it is illegal but when Hillary and the DNC use their lawyers to pay Fusion GPS to pay Steeles to fabricate a Russian collusion story and is later used to obtain FISA warrants in order to spy on their election opponents that is perfectly all right for them to so because democrats are above the law. Consenting adults having sex at work in the oval office is that okay ?
I thought I was clear that i dont care when consenting adults fuck, regardless of which party they belong to. But if not, I'll reiterate. I dont care what consenting adults do with their genitals.
I thought I was clear that i dont care when consenting adults fuck, regardless of which party they belong to. But if not, I'll reiterate. I dont care what consenting adults do with their genitals.
You made yourself perfectly clear. In Clinton's case they were both at work. He should of at least have brought her in the Lincoln bedroom. LOL
Stormy Daniels, the porn star whom President Donald Trump’s personal attorney acknowledged paying $130,000 just before Election Day, believes she is now free to discuss her alleged sexual encounter with Trump, her manager told The Associated Press Wednesday.
Daniels, whose real name is Stephanie Clifford, believes that Trump attorney Michael Cohen invalidated a non-disclosure agreement after two news stories were published Tuesday: One, in which Cohen told The New York Times that he made the six-figure payment with his personal funds, and another in the Daily Beast, which reported that Cohen was shopping a book proposal that would touch on Daniels’ story, said the manager, Gina Rodriguez.
I actually saw her in a hotel in NJ not long ago. Selling pictures of President trump but not with him in the picture by himself. She is doing it for the money so she isn’t an opportunist slut? There is a comic I like there Vic Debitateno
Your going to love this who is the head of counter intelligence with the FBI?
His real name is Bill Priestap. This is the only guy who did not lose his position with the FBI why?
Because he is spilling his guts on everyone involved with trying to bring down President Trump. He is going to bring down Obama, Hillary, Comey, strok and his girl friend and the rest deep throat. Democrat are trying to cover it up till after the 2018 election.
When the shit hits the fan I am going to really enjoy the result. It going to happen it’s party time.
Your going to love this who is the head of counter intelligence with the FBI?
His real name is Bill Priestap. This is the only guy who did not lose his position with the FBI why?
Because he is spilling his guts on everyone involved with trying to bring down President Trump. He is going to bring down Obama, Hillary, Comey, strok and his girl friend and the rest deep throat. Democrat are trying to cover it up till after the 2018 election.
When the shit hits the fan I am going to really enjoy the result. It going to happen it’s party time.
Here is some info. on Bill Priestap. According to this article Comey was going to put the blame on him. It also includes a chart of the Obama/Hillary crime family.
It looks like you will have your party.......... Footreads !
I'm still waiting to hear what the dems would do better than Trump is doing. The guy is open minded. Schumer and Pelosi are mutts in my opinion and unfortunately they run the democratic party. What they did at the sotu was despicable. What kind of example were they setting? They should have stayed home and gave their tickets to citizens who would've appreciated being there. Climent, why do you post these articles? You'll never get through to people like Oak. You can have a written confession from Hilary, but TRUMP ordered chicken wings from Hooters and we'll have two months of coverage about how TRUMP it's unfit to be potus. I'm still waiting for proof that Trump did anything wrong. Helen seems to be one that will hear both sides and defend her side with facts and be.open-minded. People like Oak, they only have themselves to blame. ,
Now what to do about the school shooting. I thought Trump made a good talk on it. But the democrats thought it was shit.
On crazy people you can only put them away after they prove how crazy they actually are. Not just talking about it.
That is the difference between our country and countries like China, Russia and places like those.
If you not put away and a doctor puts you on meds they can’t even force you take them if your not in a nut house.
On semiautomatic you can kill a lot of people with them if you have a lot of clips. I think the gun he used was made in China. Don’t buy from them not even the tocan canopener.
How do you stop it give qualified teachers a gun preferably more then one teacher and give them the balls to use it.
In June, 2006, Donald Trump taped an episode of his reality-television show, “The Apprentice,†at the Playboy Mansion, in Los Angeles. Hugh Hefner, Playboy’s publisher, threw a pool party for the show’s contestants with dozens of current and former Playmates, including Karen McDougal, a slim brunette who had been named Playmate of the Year......At the time of the party, Trump had been married to the Slovenian model Melania Knauss for less than two years; their son, Barron, was a few months old. Trump seemed uninhibited by his new family obligations. McDougal later wrote that Trump “immediately took a liking to me, kept talking to me - telling me how beautiful I was, etc. It was so obvious that a Playmate Promotions exec said, ‘Wow, he was all over you - I think you could be his next wife.’ â€
Trump and McDougal began an affair, which McDougal later memorialized in an eight-page, handwritten document provided to The New Yorker by John Crawford, a friend of McDougal’s.
If nothing else, adds another chapter to Stolen Democracy 2016. Maybe one of them will actually be captured and spill the beans (at least what isn't obvious already).
The Russian bots are going to be busy on social media today...and they must still be exhausted from the tough day they had yesterday. Better fill up their samovars....
I'm still waiting to hear what the dems would do better than Trump is doing. The guy is open minded. Schumer and Pelosi are mutts in my opinion and unfortunately they run the democratic party. What they did at the sotu was despicable. What kind of example were they setting? They should have stayed home and gave their tickets to citizens who would've appreciated being there. Climent, why do you post these articles? You'll never get through to people like Oak. You can have a written confession from Hilary, but TRUMP ordered chicken wings from Hooters and we'll have two months of coverage about how TRUMP it's unfit to be potus. I'm still waiting for proof that Trump did anything wrong. Helen seems to be one that will hear both sides and defend her side with facts and be.open-minded. People like Oak, they only have themselves to blame. ,
I don't do it for Oaks, I couldn't care less about him. I just find that the conservative side needs to be heard.There is too much fake news out there.
Has there ever been a presidential divorce? This would be funny if it weren't such an embarrassment to the world.
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First lady Melania Trump eschewed the traditional South Lawn couple's walk to Marine One on Friday amid another adultery allegation scandal, opting instead to drive separately ahead of President Donald Trump.
With all the real horrors going on in FLA. and the fbi they come up with this B.S. and the Russian B.S. to deflect the real problems and how the fbi is too buzzy being a Politacal machine for the Democratic Party, they should be ashamed of themselves.
If it's a waste of time, why is he lying? What's he hiding? If it's much ado about nothing, his explanations should at least hold up against the facts. They don't. Caught in a lie. He's hiding something. This is just the beginning.
Has there ever been a presidential divorce? This would be funny if it weren't such an embarrassment to the world.
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First lady Melania Trump eschewed the traditional South Lawn couple's walk to Marine One on Friday amid another adultery allegation scandal, opting instead to drive separately ahead of President Donald Trump.
All the time and resources wasted on Russia. If they would've been doing their job,.maybe 17 more people would be alive.
I agree, the FBI senior level were to busy trying to find dirt on Trump, which didn't exist, rather than doing their jobs at protecting people. Now they are covering their ass on this latest school attack. They knew and didn't do nothing about it.
Trump clearly states he didn't collude (repeatedly), but has now acknowledged that Russia has been at this since 2014. For arguments sake, lets believe that he didn't. Trump’s very own national Security advisor - Gen. McMaster - says Russia absolutely interfered in the 2016 election.
Our entire IC agrees we've been attacked by Russia. They also agree it's ongoing. Our foreign allies IC's are in agreement as well.
Indictments have now come in against the Putin lapdogs- and every thinking person knows his dogs wear his collars. These men were not acting as private citizens in this campaign, just doing it for shits and giggles.
What's a legitimate rationale for refusal to implement sanctions at this point?
Congress and senate voted overwhelmingly for sanctions against Russia. Trump refused. Now we know there were Russian efforts to control our election, and Trump still refuses to impose sanctions.
We have a traitor in the White House. It's that simple. Too bad Republicans are putting partisan politics above country. If Democrats take control of congress this year, the traitor is gone.
Has there ever been a presidential divorce? This would be funny if it weren't such an embarrassment to the world.
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First lady Melania Trump eschewed the traditional South Lawn couple's walk to Marine One on Friday amid another adultery allegation scandal, opting instead to drive separately ahead of President Donald Trump.
Can’t get trump on collusion or lying to the fbi what’s left try to break up his marriage that is low for the left.
Personally I don’t care who he is fucking he is doing a great job. But it is not necessary to try and hurt his wife. But the left are animals so let them lose their souls.
I hope now the left won’t make the Daca deal send them all back where they came from fuck them.
Has there ever been a presidential divorce? This would be funny if it weren't such an embarrassment to the world.
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First lady Melania Trump eschewed the traditional South Lawn couple's walk to Marine One on Friday amid another adultery allegation scandal, opting instead to drive separately ahead of President Donald Trump.
Can’t get trump on collusion or lying to the fbi what’s left try to break up his marriage that is low for the left.
Personally I don’t care who he is fucking he is doing a great job. But it is not necessary to try and hurt his wife. But the left are animals so let them lose their souls.
I hope now the left won’t make the Daca deal send them all back where they came from fuck them.
Trump clearly states he didn't collude (repeatedly), but has now acknowledged that Russia has been at this since 2014. For arguments sake, lets believe that he didn't. Trump’s very own national Security advisor - Gen. McMaster - says Russia absolutely interfered in the 2016 election.
Our entire IC agrees we've been attacked by Russia. They also agree it's ongoing. Our foreign allies IC's are in agreement as well.
Indictments have now come in against the Putin lapdogs- and every thinking person knows his dogs wear his collars. These men were not acting as private citizens in this campaign, just doing it for shits and giggles.
What's a legitimate rationale for refusal to implement sanctions at this point?
What good are sanctions useless let’s nuke them now. Why wait let them all die. How is that for a sanction and take Iran and Syria out as well
COLLUSION CRUMBLES: Mueller Says Russian Agents HELD ANTI-TRUMP, PRO-HILLARY Rallies
It's from Hannity, so it is bs. What was actually revealed so far was that the Russians threw money to help both Trump and Sanders to win their party nominations. They flew money so that Hillary, Cruz, and Rubio would not win their party nominations. It looks like members of Trump staff and his shithead son, inadvertently got the Russians involved, but for his son, he was willing to pay for dirt on Clinton, which there is a whole trove of it.
So far what has been revealed after all this nonsense is that 13 Russians are in trouble. Trump won fair and square. Trump is doing a great job. If the dirt is out there on Hillary, it needs to be exposed. After all of the digging and prodding at Trump, they gots nothing. He's a top international business leader. He has an army of lawyer's that he has advise him. Even if he did something wrong, he'll never be linked to it. One of his first lawyer's was Fucking Roy Cohen. Our beautiful country is governed by the constitution and there are people that know all of the ins and outs. Trump has the best of those guys. Keep digging guys. What the left has done is made a soap opera of our country. Nothing against true dems. It's these left wing assholes that post pictures of a red white house that I cast stand. Bitter little weasels.
Trump clearly states he didn't collude (repeatedly), but has now acknowledged that Russia has been at this since 2014. For arguments sake, lets believe that he didn't. Trump’s very own national Security advisor - Gen. McMaster - says Russia absolutely interfered in the 2016 election.
Our entire IC agrees we've been attacked by Russia. They also agree it's ongoing. Our foreign allies IC's are in agreement as well.
Indictments have now come in against the Putin lapdogs- and every thinking person knows his dogs wear his collars. These men were not acting as private citizens in this campaign, just doing it for shits and giggles.
What's a legitimate rationale for refusal to implement sanctions at this point?
What good are sanctions useless let’s nuke them now. Why wait let them all die. How is that for a sanction and take Iran and Syria out as well
Stop with ridiculous hyperbole. If you want to engage on a serious level, please do. The question remains.
The Russians did a great job they created hatred in this country. We should all appreciate them. Obama tried to do the same thing here with trump and the Israel election.
What the difference between the kgb and the fbi none.
Ask a Russian here even if they are US citizens they love Putin even some Ukraine’s like my ex son in law.
Can’t wait until a democrat wins the presidential election so he can be framed in return. We have some fun times a head of us. Let’s distribute the wealth to third world countries.
COLLUSION CRUMBLES: Mueller Says Russian Agents HELD ANTI-TRUMP, PRO-HILLARY Rallies
It's from Hannity, so it is bs. What was actually revealed so far was that the Russians threw money to help both Trump and Sanders to win their party nominations. They flew money so that Hillary, Cruz, and Rubio would not win their party nominations. It looks like members of Trump staff and his shithead son, inadvertently got the Russians involved, but for his son, he was willing to pay for dirt on Clinton, which there is a whole trove of it.
I have been listening to Hannity for decades and I never heard him lie. If he gets a story wrong which can happen to anybody , he is man enough to apologize the next day. Unlike the liberal mainstream media he doesn't get his talking points from & paid by Sorros. Unlike other left wing morons, he is able to think on his own. You must of slept through the primaries but someone should of told you that Sanders was cheated. Maybe the name Donna Brazile & Blabber mouth Shultz may ring a bell. The rest you can fact check on your own when your fully awake.
Has there ever been a presidential divorce? This would be funny if it weren't such an embarrassment to the world.
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First lady Melania Trump eschewed the traditional South Lawn couple's walk to Marine One on Friday amid another adultery allegation scandal, opting instead to drive separately ahead of President Donald Trump.
Can’t get trump on collusion or lying to the fbi what’s left try to break up his marriage that is low for the left.
Personally I don’t care who he is fucking he is doing a great job. But it is not necessary to try and hurt his wife. But the left are animals so let them lose their souls.
I hope now the left won’t make the Daca deal send them all back where they came from fuck them.
Republicans say Obama ‘failed to act’ on Russian threat, after indictment
U.S. Rep. Devin Nunes, R-Calif., now chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, pointed out Friday that the committee has investigated Russian “influence†on campaigns for “many years.†He said he’s warned others about such threats since 2014, when he was a rank-and-file member of the committee.
COLLUSION CRUMBLES: Mueller Says Russian Agents HELD ANTI-TRUMP, PRO-HILLARY Rallies
It's from Hannity, so it is bs. What was actually revealed so far was that the Russians threw money to help both Trump and Sanders to win their party nominations. They flew money so that Hillary, Cruz, and Rubio would not win their party nominations. It looks like members of Trump staff and his shithead son, inadvertently got the Russians involved, but for his son, he was willing to pay for dirt on Clinton, which there is a whole trove of it.
I have been listening to Hannity for decades and I never heard him lie. If he gets a story wrong which can happen to anybody , he is man enough to apologize the next day. Unlike the liberal mainstream media he doesn't get his talking points from & paid by Sorros. Unlike other left wing morons, he is able to think on his own. You must of slept through the primaries but someone should of told you that Sanders was cheated. Maybe the name Donna Brazile & Blabber mouth Shultz may ring a bell. The rest you can fact check on your own when your fully awake.
Bernie Sanders was definitely cheated, by his own party.
Bernie Sanders the real socialist. He spends his honey moon in Moscow in real life. No one did that years ago. His supporters love free stuff. Do you really think his supporters made all those small donations for him. There far to cheap to give him money. I would say the Russians did it some how.
Remember when breaking bad was on. Saul had people take Walters money and launder it through his sons web site in fake name and small amounts of money.
Bernie Sanders the real socialist. He spends his honey moon in Moscow in real life. No one did that years ago. His supporters love free stuff. Do you really think his supporters made all those small donations for him. There far to cheap to give him money. I would say the Russians did it some how.
Remember when breaking bad was on. Saul had people take Walters money and launder it through his sons web site in fake name and small amounts of money.
Good point, I had forgotten about his honey moon in RUSSIA.
He had a twitter meltdown this morning. Contradicting himself and tripping over his clown shoes. He knows his days are numbered.
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Over a series of tweets, Trump attacked the FBI; politicized the Parkland shooting for his own vindication; suggested collusion was no big deal; blamed Obama for the collusion; and said the real collusion involved Hillary Clinton. He undermined his national-security adviser; lied about denying that Russia meddled in the election; and finished with an appeal to numbers, citing an infamously unreliable pollster....
...Rather than stick to a single, coherent message, the president is trying out several contradictory ones. It cannot be true that the collusion is no big deal and also that Obama was negligent in handling it and also that the Clinton campaign colluded in worrisome ways
Bernie Sanders the real socialist. He spends his honey moon in Moscow in real life. No one did that years ago. His supporters love free stuff. Do you really think his supporters made all those small donations for him. There far to cheap to give him money. I would say the Russians did it some how.
Remember when breaking bad was on. Saul had people take Walters money and launder it through his sons web site in fake name and small amounts of money.
Honeymoon in Russia makes one a communist? Well I guess me having a honeymoon in Germany, Italy, and Spain makes me fascist.
Bernie Sanders the real socialist. He spends his honey moon in Moscow in real life. No one did that years ago. His supporters love free stuff. Do you really think his supporters made all those small donations for him. There far to cheap to give him money. I would say the Russians did it some how.
Remember when breaking bad was on. Saul had people take Walters money and launder it through his sons web site in fake name and small amounts of money.
Honeymoon in Russia makes one a communist? Well I guess me having a honeymoon in Germany, Italy, and Spain makes me fascist.
Unless you had your honeymoon during World War II, last time I checked Germany, Italy and Spain are not fascist countries.
Bernie Sanders the real socialist. He spends his honey moon in Moscow in real life. No one did that years ago. His supporters love free stuff. Do you really think his supporters made all those small donations for him. There far to cheap to give him money. I would say the Russians did it some how.
Remember when breaking bad was on. Saul had people take Walters money and launder it through his sons web site in fake name and small amounts of money.
Honeymoon in Russia makes one a communist? Well I guess me having a honeymoon in Germany, Italy, and Spain makes me fascist.
When sanders went to Russia it did mean that. It was not a tourist spot back then as you know.
At every turn, Trump has failed to do what a patriotic president would do—failed to put the national interest first. He has left the 2018 elections as vulnerable as the 2016 elections to Russian intervention on his behalf.
economy is doing great so republicans will do fine in 2018. The voters are not going to sink that ship. But part of me wants the democrats to destroy the economy. Why, well I got mine if you don’t get yours blame yourselves.
The Kerry State Department approved the visas for the Russian operatives to travel the US in 2014 through 2016 and attempt to interfere with the US election process.
The pressure's on. He's banning bump stocks. Props to those high school kids for speaking out.
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The announcement from Trump came as a surprise given that the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) had yet to decide whether it would create new restrictions for the attachment that enables a semiautomatic rifle to fire at a faster rate.
Trump is trying to do that right thing. No matter what you think. Pressure does not seem to matter to him.
No matter what he does people hate him in both parties. I was wondering myself when he was going to bring up the issue about the bump stocks. Also a stricter gun laws.
But don’t forget this fact illegal guns are easy to get for the criminal. I can get one by going to any bodega in the five boroughs I am sure it’s the same in Chicago in any city.
So make it had for people to get them legally they will get them illegally. I am more partial to knives myself then to guns in my old age.
The real crazy’s still have access to cars. What are you going to do about that?
Don’t forget how to make a bomb it’s all over the Internet.
No matter what trump does it is going to keep happening. The 19 yr old pull the fire alarm to get them outside. He could have rented a big truck and done more damage.
Where there is a will there is a way.
I think you should tell kids going home from school to travel in groups. Younger have someone pick them up and take them home. Teach your kids self defense. Cops are never there when you actually need one their response time is to slow to stop anything.
Goes to show, Oak has more in common with high school students than adults. Tighter Gun control unfortunately well not stop this. You can take away all of the guns from the bad guys and law abiding citizens. They can make bombs. Instead of telling the kids to stop bullying because it won't stop. People are mean. You have the kids stick up for themselves. Or you train them from a young age like the military, teach them comradery, and hold parents more accountable. These kids should be sitting in front of the J. Edgar Hoover building, bc those assholes dropped the ball big time. It makes you wonder what else is slipping through the cracks? Worried about Russian collusion and skinny Joey. Meanwhile 17 people were massacred in an act of terrorism. He's trying to make a deal that if he pleads guilty he doesn't want the death penalty. Put him on a giant dart board and let students throw objects at him until there's nothing left but human pulP. Think of how gang fights have evolved. It's only a matter of time until a bomb is set off. This recent school was an A school. Set them all up like some of the inner city schools with the cops and metal detectors.
We have mountains of evidence that proves that tighter gun regulations lower gun deaths. Nobody is so laughably naive as to think laws are only effective or valuable if they never fail.
This widespread assumption that people will just find other ways to produce the same results is incorrect. That's not what happens. Suicide rates drop drastically when guns aren't available. Shooting sprees result in far fewer deaths when automatic weapons are not available. Shootings in and of themselves decrease dramatically when firearms are not easy to come by. These things have been shown time and time again in the research, so why do people keep appealing to assumptions like this?
All we have to do is put informed and effective barriers up so that it takes more work to get the guns and they become less available to people who shouldn't have them.
Effective gun control would give us universal backgrounds checks for absolutely all sales that check against a federal registry to which all states are required to submit all their records. It would require a longer waiting period for a license and additional waiting periods for permits for each firearm purchased. That license would be revoked with conviction of certain crimes or certain mental health assessments. It would also legislate certain storage requirements and require reporting if stolen, with a criminal charge if a non-reported stolen gun were used in the commission of a crime. It would require taking safety and skills courses and passing a skills and knowledge test as well as a mental health check. Etc., etc. Most of these things are already in place in places like Canada, Switzerland, Australia, etc., and they work very well.
they had one armed guard in that school. He said he never saw the kid. Could be true it is a really big school. Or maybe he made sure he did not see anyone because he was afraid of getting hit.
Today the democratic governor of New Jersey said he was going to put an armed guard in every school in the town if East Brunswick NJ. Heard it this minrnung will that help maybe in East Brunswick if the schools are very small with one entrance. If no fire drills happen I thought you can not get a gun there. But you can rent a truck or a car and no fire drills and if the guard does not split to save his own ass.
I have no problem with tighter gun control. If they want to have more in depth background checks, have at it. When I applied fit my concealed, it took up to 60 or 90 days for the background check. When I bought my AK, it took a signature at a dealer and two days for shipping. Gun, magazines, and 1k rounds. If I was told that it would've taken 60-90 days for my background check, I wouldn't have complained. Those studies were done in other countries. The usa is a whole different kind of madness. Suicide by gun is the most effective, but if someone wants to die let them go. But guns aren't the problem. It wasn't until 1986 that full auto "machine guns"were banned from civilian sales. Granted with the proper permit, you can have one as well as suppressors. Kids weren't shooting up schools like they are now. What is causing all of this chaos? We need to get to the root of what is making these kids crack in such a sadistic manner. My point is, we can't just say guns are the problem and problem solved. Guns contributed as the weapon of choice. But these crazy fuckers are pulling the triggers. Another thing that will be difficult is the mental health background check. Good old HIPPA is going to get in the way, now we're infringing on people's health privacy. Come to think of it, say you have a seizure and go to the hospital. They have to notify the dmv and you lose your license for six months to see if you have another seizure. So why can't they do something similar to those with mental issues? But none of the six month thing, FOREVER!
Im all for the second amendment but with logic. i have no problem with more indepth background checks and certainly no problem with longer waiting periods. Did any of you know that in certain states, if your guns get stolen or lost, you are NOT required to report to the police ! Thats insanity. Can you imagine if you had 30 high powered rifles and a bunch of hand guns that were stolen and you never had to report it. Or you could buy hundreds of guns and sell them illegally and if they get traced to you, you can just say they were stolen... how that can happen is a mystery. The big gun control myth is this: states such as new jersey and new york that have tight gun control laws still have high levels of gun violence despite tough gun laws. What they dont say is the criminals travel to states with lax gun laws and buy them in those states. If every state had tighter gun laws, it would be much tougher for criminals to procure illegal guns.
Im all for the second amendment but with logic. i have no problem with more indepth background checks and certainly no problem with longer waiting periods. Did any of you know that in certain states, if your guns get stolen or lost, you are NOT required to report to the police ! Thats insanity. Can you imagine if you had 30 high powered rifles and a bunch of hand guns that were stolen and you never had to report it. Or you could buy hundreds of guns and sell them illegally and if they get traced to you, you can just say they were stolen... how that can happen is a mystery.
I found out about some of the states not having the requirement to report stolen guns about a year ago, and I still cannot wrap my mind around it. It was a very 'what the fuck?' moment for me
Also, many states don't require you to register each individual gun, which is another mind blower. Every one of my guns needed to be registered and I think that's just common sense law.
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The big gun control myth is this: states such as new jersey and new york that have tight gun control laws still have high levels of gun violence despite tough gun laws. What they dont say is the criminals travel to states with lax gun laws and buy them in those states. If every state had tighter gun laws, it would be much tougher for criminals to procure illegal guns.
Agree 100%. This is a no brainer. Where do people think illegal guns come from, gun fairies?
Im all for the second amendment but with logic. i have no problem with more indepth background checks and certainly no problem with longer waiting periods. Did any of you know that in certain states, if your guns get stolen or lost, you are NOT required to report to the police ! Thats insanity. Can you imagine if you had 30 high powered rifles and a bunch of hand guns that were stolen and you never had to report it. Or you could buy hundreds of guns and sell them illegally and if they get traced to you, you can just say they were stolen... how that can happen is a mystery. The big gun control myth is this: states such as new jersey and new york that have tight gun control laws still have high levels of gun violence despite tough gun laws. What they dont say is the criminals travel to states with lax gun laws and buy them in those states. If every state had tighter gun laws, it would be much tougher for criminals to procure illegal guns.
I agree with most of the points you stated but if you have a porous border tighter gun laws will only be a part of the solution. People intent on committing crimes will still be able to purchase guns illegally. Democrats that complain about these school massacres close their eyes to guns and criminals coming illegally across the border.
No thinking person makes the argument that we can stop all crimes. That's a red herring.
Common sense gun control is about reduction, not complete elimination. Like we did with drunk driving fatalities to great success.
Again you have illegals getting drunk , no car insurance, causing criminal harm to legal citizens and allowed to be protected in sanctuary cities. I understand that there is no perfect system but to ignore a major problem and I underscore MAJOR, like the border security where guns & criminals are allowed to roam free is total ignorance.
Gun control and border control are two separate issues. Im for much tighter border control, including a wall but that has nothing to do with gun control. The border needs to be secured, no doubt about it.. Again, i am for the second amendment, just be smart about it. I cant wait until states with very lax gun laws legalize weed. You will have a bunch of stoners hunting for pink elephants. Lots of fat people are going to die,..lol
Gun control and border control are two separate issues. Im for much tighter border control, including a wall but that has nothing to do with gun control. The border needs to be secured, no doubt about it.. Again, i am for the second amendment, just be smart about it. I cant wait until states with very lax gun laws legalize weed. You will have a bunch of stoners hunting for pink elephants. Lots of fat people are going to die,..lol
They are not separate issues when it comes to gun control. You mentioned if every state had tighter gun laws, it would be much tougher for criminals to procure illegal guns and I agree with this statement in part;but you ignore the fact that they can just cross the border and resupply the gun demand by criminals.
The economic recovery--which is global, not just in the US--began under Obama, who started out following the same formula as Bush: "Too big to fail." Some of the stock market gains (until very recently) could be attributed to Trump's pro-business rhetoric, but overseas exchanges actually have risen more than ours.
BUT: it's hardly unusual for a sitting president to take credit for good things begun by his predecessor. Obama took the victory lap when Bin Laden was killed, but Bush did most of the heavy lifting in finding Bin Laden.
The economic recovery--which is global, not just in the US--began under Obama, who started out following the same formula as Bush: "Too big to fail." Some of the stock market gains (until very recently) could be attributed to Trump's pro-business rhetoric, but overseas exchanges actually have risen more than ours.
BUT: it's hardly unusual for a sitting president to take credit for good things begun by his predecessor. Obama took the victory lap when Bin Laden was killed, but Bush did most of the heavy lifting in finding Bin Laden.
The fact that overseas exchanges have risen higher to that of the US proves that the Obama's domestic economic policies were a failure. The economy crashed in 2008 under Bush's watch, it had no way to go but up. Furthermore you are comparing 8 years of Obama policies to 1 year of Trump's.Recent stock markets gains are attributed to Trump not could be attributed.
Ciment Gun control and the border are 2 separate issues in my view. If you tighten the border, less illegal immigrants, less drugs, and less guns coming and going. The gun control aspect of border security is a fringe benefit. Again, i agree that border security is a must.
Back to Trump and the economy.. the market took off like a rocket when he got elected. That was due to Trumps pro business agenda. Obama got into office at a stock markey low, it really had no where to go but up. The feds intervention, bank bailouts, and artificially controlled low interest rates was the reason, not Obama. A year after he was elected, wages finally started moving up.
People intent on committing crimes will still be able to purchase guns illegally.
Then it sounds like we have a problem with law enforcement.
The problem is not law enforcement ,the problem are those leftist liberals that took over the democratic party and those activists judges that allow these criminals to roam the streets.
I must say I do appreciate the irony of people that think teachers at public schools are part of a Marxist plot to indoctrinate the youth of America wanting to arm those teachers.
I don’t like arming teachers. I rather they arm retired cops instead like they just did in a town in New Jersey and the fbi already picked up a kid who threatened a school their.
I think the fbi head in Florida should be out right fired. Everyone knew that kid was nuts including other students. The people that took that kid into their house after his adopted mother died should be arrested as well. For not reporting him especially when he bought guns and they knew he was not right.
Yeah, maybe the armed retired cops on campus will do as good of a job as law enforcement nationwide when it comes to enforcing gun laws. If this is this case, the mass shootings will probably increase. The retired cops looking to recapture their old glory will be too busy harassing weed smokers and black students (like old times) to even notice the white kid with the confederate flag t-shirt walking right by them with a loaded AR-15.
Go look at the post of what the Mexicans can accomplish with their wonderful law enforcement. I've a great idea, leave the USA! You don't like it here, you're afraid of white people, you hate the cops, and you can't give credit where it is deserved. I'm going to assume your mommy spent money on crack rocks and that out prioritized her birth control, you never knew your dad, you have numerous siblings with the same predicament, and one day when you were walking minding your own business a cop stopped you and instead of following commands and proving your innocence, you made a big scene and got your ass handed to you. So, how do you fix all these problems you have with this country? Solution: Move!
Yeah, maybe the armed retired cops on campus will do as good of a job as law enforcement nationwide when it comes to enforcing gun laws. If this is this case, the mass shootings will probably increase. The retired cops looking to recapture their old glory will be too busy harassing weed smokers and black students (like old times) to even notice the white kid with the confederate flag t-shirt walking right by them with a loaded AR-15.
Hey a democrat governor did that. You ever been arrested or stopped and frisked? I have I have a reason to hate cops what is yours.
But I also have Grand children and I want them to be safe in school and out if school. So people even me put up with that shit to keep them safe.. I don’t know any kkk guys never even saw one have you?
I have seen people in Germany Germany kids who think they are wise guys. Until you stick your fingers in their eyes then they turn respectful in an elevator. But then the wife gets mad at you not them.
Yeah, maybe the armed retired cops on campus will do as good of a job as law enforcement nationwide when it comes to enforcing gun laws. If this is this case, the mass shootings will probably increase. The retired cops looking to recapture their old glory will be too busy harassing weed smokers and black students (like old times) to even notice the white kid with the confederate flag t-shirt walking right by them with a loaded AR-15.
How old do you think they are you go in at 20 retire at 40. So they are not old. What do retired cops do they work in security in shopping malls or they become handy men. Why not work in a school.
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What is the attraction of social media I am not on any of them. A friend asked me to join LinkedIn what ever that was. I asked him why he is an engineer a smart guy when I was a kid. I told him why would you want a retired thief on that.
I am not on tweeter or Facebook I have no interest in that. I find social media us not really social.
Plus my son is on that he made the mistake of mentioning he voted for trump. S lot of people took him off their friend list.
I told him with friends like that who needs enemies.
I have very few friends living I had few friends as a kid. It hard to be a friend of mine. I still have a lot of soccer acquaintances not friends. We never talk politics because sports and everything else does not mix with politics.
I think we're going to see an increased discussion in this country regarding law enforcement and their role in mass shootings. Their apathy can be identified in just about every case. Whether it's repeated visits to the shooter's home resulting in no action taken, despite signs of erratic behavior, failure to investigate online activity, failure to enforce gun laws on the books, or, now, outright derelict of duty during incidents.
It's possible this officer could have saved most, if not ALL of the lives that were lost if he'd performed his duty. There is no end around at this point for police apologists. Law enforcement is as much to blame as anything.
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Banned the bump stocks.
Be a good boy, you get a treat.
What did Obama or the democrats do about gun control when they were in control of both houses. I'll tell you they did "balls" like they usually do. All you leftist like to do is play the victim, blame someone else, yell out words like racism,misogynist and walk around with vaginal hats and accuse the dog for eating your homework. More and more people are getting wise to the bullshit spewing out of liberal mouths.
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About a week ago I got called by Rasmussen that poll always favor demicrates not trump.
The girl doing the poll was an idiot. She asked me about what I thought about Como that is the name she asked about instead of gov Cuomo for president in 2020.
Then she asked the same question about DeBlasio you know what I said about him.
She asked me if I was a democrat or republican. The only reason she kept the info was I said democrat.
Yep.. liberals are always trying to be or create victims. Taking personal blame and taking care of your children takes work. Liberals are notoriously LAZY and rather than work hard, they just blame others for their problems.
A traditional parent — their kid says a curse. The parent kicks their ass an/ or punishes them. A liberal parent- their kid says a curse.. the parent says they are only expressing themselves... bullshit, lazy parenting. It takes a lot of effort to discipline a kid. Its so much easier to just use the excuse that he is expressing himself.
Now the left is trying to do with the NRA that they did with Trump. Make a few calls and getting companies to drop the NRA. They did that with trump that’s why Macy’s don’t cell the trump line anymore. That worked who is our President now Hillary?
Black lives matter calls Macy’s get a donation and the thanksgiving day parade goes on without agitator interference.
Delta airlines just dropped their discounts for NRA members. I wonder if Air France dropped theirs. Book a flight on delta to Germany direct then someone else books a flight on Air France you will find yourself on the same plane.
NRA makes a commercial against delta stock holders will lose a ton of money.
"One of the things that was immediately surprising in the wake of the school shooting in Florida was Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel on every channel appearing like a politician pushing for gun control."
Sheriff Scott Israel who is the boss of the coward Scot Peterson and the other officers that stayed outside the school. This sheriff is a democrat . It explains it all. It also explains why he teamed up with Fake News CNN to bash Dana Loesch at the town hall meeting. That was to deflect the incompetency of his officers. The truth is finally out.
[How old do you think they are you go in at 20 retire at 40. So they are not old. What do retired cops do they work in security in shopping malls or they become handy men. Why not work in a school.
All the more reason they should be required to work an addition 10 years to qualify for a pension. 20 on the beat, 10 at the desk, unless they choose to stay on the beat. Taxpayers should not be funding pensions for people retiring in their 40s. That's ridiculous. We're turning the law enforcement officer into a luxury job.
[How old do you think they are you go in at 20 retire at 40. So they are not old. What do retired cops do they work in security in shopping malls or they become handy men. Why not work in a school.
All the more reason they should be required to work an addition 10 years to qualify for a pension. 20 on the beat, 10 at the desk, unless they choose to stay on the beat. Taxpayers should not be funding pensions for people retiring in their 40s. That's ridiculous. We're turning the law enforcement officer into a luxury job.
Hey the left loves union workers. They contribute money they do grass roots door knocking. Am I wrong about that?
Police aren't real union members. They don't work in solidarity with other unions. They're protection racketeers. Their union is more like a mafia. The police unions would try to make their pensions eligible after 10 years if we let them get away with it. If you can score a sweet deal like that in the private sector, more power to you. But public pensions should not be springing people into second careers. That's b.s. It's called double dipping, and police are notorious for it today. It's not right.
Police aren't real union members. They don't work in solidarity with other unions. They're protection racketeers. Their union is more like a mafia. The police unions would try to make their pensions eligible after 10 years if we let them get away with it. If you can score a sweet deal like that in the private sector, more power to you. But public pensions should not be springing people into second careers. That's b.s. It's called double dipping, and police are notorious for it today. It's not right.
Tune in to LIVE Pd. Those cops in Pasco, at least up until a couple of years ago started off at $18/hr. They went five years without raises. With all of the stupid shit they deal with, they deserve a pension. Get your facts straight. After twenty years they get a pension. It's thirty years when they get the big pension. My dad worked in Hillsborough as a C.O. and after twenty years he said fuck it, and went to driving trucks. That pension doesn't start getting collected until later. So, get your facts straight. Could you ever hold a job for at least twenty years? Let alone a job dealing with a bunch of scum all day? That's the job they chose and if they get a pension at the end of the day, good for them. In Florida they have the f.r.s., it's like social security. The new generation pays for the older generations. By the way, what did the Obama administration do to protect schools? Not a Fucking thing. How many massacres with guns happened under his administration? What was done? You can bet your ass Trump is listening to the people and things will finally get done. But wait, he's going to get impeached for colluding with Russia our because he's mentally unfit.
You're sample sizing certain departments, not addressing the norm. There are several law enforcement agencies where people retire after 20 years of overall service, desk or field. That is ridiculous. They're starting second careers and double dipping into two pensions when they hit normal retirement age. This is taxpayer abuse, nothing more. It's a racket. A lot of cops go into it for the sweet 20 year plan. This is probably why those chumps in Florida didn't bother going in to stop Cruz. They were probably 3 years away from the Bahamas...and they're probably in their early 40s.
Tune in to LIVE Pd. Those cops in Pasco, at least up until a couple of years ago started off at $18/hr. They went five years without raises. With all of the stupid shit they deal with, they deserve a pension. Get your facts straight. After twenty years they get a pension. It's thirty years when they get the big pension. My dad worked in Hillsborough as a C.O. and after twenty years he said fuck it, and went to driving trucks. That pension doesn't start getting collected until later. So, get your facts straight. Could you ever hold a job for at least twenty years? Let alone a job dealing with a bunch of scum all day? That's the job they chose and if they get a pension at the end of the day, good for them. In Florida they have the f.r.s., it's like social security. The new generation pays for the older generations. By the way, what did the Obama administration do to protect schools? Not a Fucking thing. How many massacres with guns happened under his administration? What was done? You can bet your ass Trump is listening to the people and things will finally get done. But wait, he's going to get impeached for colluding with Russia our because he's mentally unfit.
Agree 100%. Cops have the worst job in America.
On Security, Trump is right. Arm teachers. Lastly, Rifles account for 2% of all gun fatalities. 40 get shot in Chicongo over the weekend, no one gives a damn, doesnt fit the media narrative, which is anti gun and wants them all banned. Thats what this is ultimately about. Gun control. And gun control isnt about guns, its about control. They did in Russia and killed 66 million Christians. Then in China-ditto.
Cops have the best job in the world, they can violate civil liberties whenever they feel like it, frame innocent people, beat and shoot people, they can not uphold the constitution just because.
Should fisherman get a fat pension after 20 years? Roofers? Trash collectors? Truck drivers? Construction workers? Maintenance workers?
They'd get laughed out of the room for asking. And, their jobs are more dangerous than a police officers' job. The numbers don't lie.
No one is trying to kill fishermen or loggers.
They are effectively zoo keepers, working with the most dangerous and most degenerate. only police officers face the threat of murder as a part of their job. No one is out trying to kill fisherman or loggers or garbage collectors. A cop on the street endures daily contact with drunks, the mentally disabled and violent criminals. They endure life-and-death situations on a daily basis.
Those other professions wished they had a Union to negotiate for them. Perhaps they should organize. I think Pensions are deserved for all of them, but the powers that be, restrict them and have made huge cuts. They now want you to try to beat the market, investing in the shell game aka The stock market with a 401 K, Just hope theres not a market crash. What a racket. Arrest all the criminals on Wall Street and DC.
Cops jobs, like fireman, is vital and crucial. I support them. Ive had to call them once and was glad they arrived when they did. 60k year average to work holidays and weekends is not a helluva lot of money. It might not be top 10 most dangerous, but its sure as hell top 50. Depending on the locale.
Bureau of Labor Statistics. A logging worker is eight times more likely than a police officer to die on the job, and a garbage man is three times more likely to die while working.
The 10 Deadliest Jobs: Deaths per 100,000
1. Logging workers: 128.8 2. Fishers and related fishing workers: 117 3. Aircraft pilot and flight engineers: 53.4 4. Roofers: 40.5 5. Structural iron and steel workers: 37 6. Refuse and recyclable material collectors: 27.1 7. Electrical power-line installers and repairers: 23 8. Drivers/sales workers and truck drivers: 22.1 9. Farmers, ranchers, and other agricultural managers: 21.3 10. Construction laborers: 17.4
Out of approximately one million police and law enforcement personnel, with 126 deaths per year, the death rate for police is 12.6 per hundred thousand. Thats gone down from the trend- downward in the last 40 years. Police work is getting progressively safer compared with historical averages:
From 1970 to 1980 police deaths averaged 231 per year. 1980 to 1989: police deaths averaged 190.7. 1990 to 1999: police deaths averaged 161.5. 2000 to 2009: police deaths averaged 165. 2013 to 2014: police deaths averaged 113.'
Cops have the best job in the world, they can violate civil liberties whenever they feel like it, frame innocent people, beat and shoot people, they can not uphold the constitution just because.
Black Lives Matter, right?
5% are rogue, it that. Video has changed the game, and few incidences of what you describe. Litigation or ghetto lottery assures that they are kept honest.
Nonetheless, police officers aren't being killed as often as the workers listed. We can't track what's going on inside of peoples' heads or what their motives are, but we can track the incidents. If as many people were out trying to kill police officers as you're implying, you'd have to believe that police officers would be on that list of 10 most dangerous jobs. They're not. Maintenance workers have a more dangerous job, and that is a fact.
The number of police officers killed on the job skyrocketed 40% in 2010 to 134 from 96 the year before. Craig Floyd, CEO of the National Law Enforcement Officer Memorial Fund in Washington, said that the increase in police fatalities has continued into 2011 with year-to-date deaths up 22% through early August.
"They're taking away training dollars, equipment dollars and manpower dollars," said Floyd. "When you cut law enforcement budgets people, including officers, die." Floyd said that, with fewer officers on the streets, criminals also seem more willing to shoot at them than in the past.
However, one of the main culprits when it comes to police killings are traffic accidents, said Floyd. Traffic-related accidents were up 37% in 2010 and represented 56% of all fatalities. Only two occurred in high-speed pursuits, he said, with the rest occurring on routine patrol.
The article you've linked posts numbers from 2010, nearly a decade ago. And, It's kind of weird that most of these lists are of the top 10, and this article has 11, listing police as number 11. Are police even really number 11 by the numbers in that year, or did they just add this section to include police as to not ruffle any feathers with outspoken police supporters?
Giving it the benefit of the doubt, you still have at least 10 occupations more dangerous than being a police officer.
All of the hyperbole aside.
All of the mythology about people wanting to kill police (if they really did, their job would be more dangerous by the numbers).
It is not even a top 10 most dangerous job in America.
Thats because 10 was almost a tie. The occupation of a Cop isnt in the Top 10 Most Dangerous, Because its #11 Most Dangerous. Deaths are down significantly in the last 5 years.
Probably has alot to do with (De) Policing. With post riots Cincinnati, St Louis, Ferguson etc. It Moves in cycles, pendulum swings and the community decides they dont want law and order and to be policed, only now, I believe nationally, that aggressive policing is out to make way for the race baiters and race hustler pimp. Its still a Dangerous job. A very dangerous job in fact in most places, unless its a white suburb, but even those are disappearing. Thanks Obama.
The article you've linked posts numbers from 2010, nearly a decade ago. And, It's kind of weird that most of these lists are of the top 10, and this article has 11, listing police as number 11. Are police even really number 11 by the numbers in that year, or did they just add this section to include police as to not ruffle any feathers with outspoken police supporters?
Giving it the benefit of the doubt, you still have at least 10 occupations more dangerous than being a police officer.
All of the hyperbole aside.
All of the mythology about people wanting to kill police (if they really did, their job would be more dangerous by the numbers).
It is not even a top 10 most dangerous job in America.
Roofers take more of a risk every day. Fact.
Cops wear Body armour. Factor in how many cops get shot or seriously injured, and it jumps way up on the Most Dangerous scale, if youre only considering murders.
And Most roofers arent wearing safety harnesses. Yes, roofing is a dangerous job. But Id much rather roof than be a cop in downtown Hoodville-pick any large city.
"Fact: Last year, 100 law-enforcement officers were killed. On average, over the past decade, there have been 58,261 assaults against law enforcement each year, resulting in 15,658 injuries.
Fact: New York City has lost more officers in the line of duty than any other department, with 697 deaths. Texas has lost 1,675 officers, more than any other state."
Factor in Officers shot or seriously injured, and its way more Dangerous on the Most Dangerous Jobs. Our cities are like war zones. I dont want that job.
'Our cities are like warzones' says the guy who has never been in either a war zone or a major city.
I collected thousands in rent every Friday, 1st Friday of the month, in the worst neighborhoods in West Dayton and Cincinnati. Cincinnati metro is a Top 20 Largest City. Mind you. Both are war zones, both are Top 20 Most Dangerous Cities in America, by Murder and Violence. I said had because Im now out. I had 2 people Murdered on my curb in Dayton and in a drug shootout. That was it.
You have NO idea who I am, what I do, who Ive been around and what Ive done. Ive had close friends shot and killed, close friends sent to the Pen, been to the worst biker bars in the Midwest, mostly as a kid with my dad on the arm wrestling circuit-3rd in the USA when he hit it big, and dodged my own demise multiple times. Been bar hopping and hustling from 15 on. Then I got serious about football and turned life around.
But Id much rather roof than be a cop in downtown Hoodville-pick any large city.
Yeah, let's see you get on that roof on a July morning when it's expected to hit triple digit temperatures, for the 14th day straight, and then nearly lose your balance while ripping out shingles. You'd take a job staring down tweens like Wyatt Earp while riding around in the ghettos in an air conditioned police cruiser, in a heartbeat.
[quote=aidanbrexit] But Id much rather roof than be a cop in downtown Hoodville-pick any large city.
Yeah, let's see you get on that roof on a July morning when it's expected to hit triple digit temperatures, for the 14th day straight, and then nearly lose your balance
Been there, dont that. I worked a Summer in Roofing long ago. I also collected rents in some of the worst areas in the Midwest. Roofing never worried me. Bring a gallon of water and stay hydrated, watch your footing. But being white, strong / large as I am, Getting shot by a gang banger, robbed of the thousands I had on me in rent money, or having the hood explode over stupid BS nonsense or drive by bullets DID concern me. And I had scares on roofs. But I never worried about not going home to my wife and kids or wished to carry a piece on me for protection to get on a roof.
But the odds are, you won't get shot at by a gang banger. The odds of falling off that roof or having a heat stroke were much greater.
There are at least 10 jobs more dangerous than that of a police officers, among them roofing, maintenance work...and fishing.
Cop is #11, close TO #10.
Odds are you wont get robbed either, but I still carry a gun. Roofing Accidents are for idiots and risk takers. Placing yourself as a white guy in A bonafied Top 20 War Zone, having $1000s in your pocket, everyone Knowing you have $1000s in your pocket, on a Friday,despite whatever odds someone on a board tells you, isnt comforting.
Ive seen violence and guns erupt first hand. Ive Had guns pulled. I dealt with felon tenants. Drug users, Drug dealers and usual degenerates. I Had 2 murdered on MY curb street. Memorial constructed. Homies dumping the 40s regularly there. Try renting that house... I Had my home featured in a Gangsta rap video. Had cops pull me over and ask me what in the hell i was doing there, as I had no business being there, letting me go for running a stop sign at dusk. Thats reality & sobering.
Roofing is a hard job, but its honest work and a 'cake walk' vs collecting Section 8 and worrying about your lifes safety.
DEADLIEST US CITIES 9. Cincinnati, Ohio The murder rate in Cincinnati is 11.0 per 100,000. The rate went unchanged compared with the same timespan last year. Credit: John Minchillo/AP
If you're going to say that roof accidents are self caused, then it could be the case for police injuries, too. They too could have been taking unnecessary risks outside of their legal authority. They could have been acting like idiots.
If you're going to say that roof accidents are self caused, then it could be the case for police injuries, too. They too could have been taking unnecessary risks outside of their legal authority. They could have been acting like idiots.
Not really. Im speaking from personal experience. Accidents in roofing are largely NOT wearing safety harnesses, cougar paw roof shoes, or taking unnecessary chances. Factor the above IN, and roofing is far safer. Same with fishing- lack of sleep a huge component in injury. And injuries arent usually fatal. Just bangups.
Police work INVOLVES putting oneself in direct harms way. They cant refuse to respond to a call of officer down, or robbery in progress... Huge difference.
If you're going to factor in human error in regards to roofing accidents, you have to factor it into police injuries, too. Otherwise we're just skewing the numbers to make police work seem more dangerous, right? Human error applies to both categories. Some roofers get a little careless, some cops start acting like cowboys out there and making the job more dangerous for themselves and their fellow officers.
You're going to compare roofers and cops? This is too much for me. A roofer can go to work drunk every day and do drugs if they want. A roofer can go to work without bathing our grooming four weeks if they want. A roofer can beat his wife, get arrested, go home, get a dui, and still keep their job. A roofer can learn the trade and become a contractor and make a fortune with the right mindset. A cop doesn't have that option.The mental anguish that cops deal with on a daily basis surpasses that of most professions. I did carpentry for seven years and never once did I run into someone from another trade who did something routine like rolling out a power cord and getting shot at. Body armour doesn't stop head shots nor armour piercing rounds. A roofer climbs up a leader to a roof where trusses have been set and decked with plywood. The roofer uses the toe boards that are already in place and also if they are playing by the rules of osha after a certain pitch of a roof they are wearing harnesses. You're just full of anti cop rhetoric. What kind of work is it you do? Maybe one day McDonald's will offer a pension.
If you're going to factor in human error in regards to roofing accidents, you have to factor it into police injuries, too. Otherwise we're just skewing the numbers to make police work seem more dangerous, right? Human error applies to both categories. Some roofers get a little careless, some cops start acting like cowboys out there and making the job more dangerous for themselves and their fellow officers.
Sure. Do it. Id surmise that getting shot and living, or stabbed is as a cop, worse than a fall from a roof breaking an arm or spraining an ankle.
You're going to compare roofers and cops? This is too much for me. A roofer can go to work drunk every day and do drugs if they want. A roofer can go to work without bathing our grooming four weeks if they want. A roofer can beat his wife, get arrested, go home, get a dui, and still keep their job. A roofer can learn the trade and become a contractor and make a fortune with the right mindset. A cop doesn't have that option.The mental anguish that cops deal with on a daily basis surpasses that of most professions. I did carpentry for seven years and never once did I run into someone from another trade who did something routine like rolling out a power cord and getting shot at. Body armour doesn't stop head shots nor armour piercing rounds. A roofer climbs up a leader to a roof where trusses have been set and decked with plywood. The roofer uses the toe boards that are already in place and also if they are playing by the rules of osha after a certain pitch of a roof they are wearing harnesses. You're just full of anti cop rhetoric. What kind of work is it you do? Maybe one day McDonald's will offer a pension.
+1
I think most of the board has jumped the shark and supports Black Lives Matter
You have NO idea who I am, what I do, who Ive been around and what Ive done.
Everybody is handsome and rich on the internet.
Anyway, how many people are murdered every day in even the worst large city in the US, compared to say, Damascus or Kabul? You know, actual war zones?
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I worked a Summer in Roofing... I had 2 people Murdered on my curb...everyone Knowing you have $1000s in your pocket...Ive Had guns pulled on once
What's with all the random capitalization in the middle of sentences? ESL? Globalist Jewish conspiracy against punctuation?
I told myself I wouldnt respond to you, as youre prone to emotional tantrums, muh feels and run back to the moderator, but Ill indulge you as your question is legit.
I never said or intimated that I was rich and famous. Only that Ive been around. Ive spent time in the Ring as a sparring partner for a HW contender, Played D1 Football in the Big 10, been around real gangsters, and folks from all walks of life, lowlifes and rich n famous. I attended one of largest high schools in Ohio and got comfortable with folks from trailer parks to those with trust funds.
The Top 10 cities in the USA have a higher murder rate per capita THAN the cities you mentioned ironically. They are officially war zones. This is Chicago. It has a lower rate than that of Dayton or Cincinnati. And yet its still higher than in Kabul Afganistan. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/16/chicago-homicide-rate-wor_n_1602692.html
Id surmise that getting shot and living, or stabbed is as a cop, worse than a fall from a roof breaking an arm or spraining an ankle.
Do you think breaking an arm is the only injury you could get falling from a roof? How about a broken collar bone? How about spinal damage? How about being paralyzed? You'd rather have these kinds of injuries than get stabbed by a mentally ill homeless guy with a pencil?
Id surmise that getting shot and living, or stabbed is as a cop, worse than a fall from a roof breaking an arm or spraining an ankle.
Do you think breaking an arm is the only injury you could get falling from a roof? How about a broken collar bone? How about spinal damage? How about being paralyzed? You'd rather have these kinds of injuries than get stabbed by a mentally ill homeless guy with a pencil?
Pretty much. Fall is a fall. Most get up and get back to work unless its a sprain or break. I worked AS a roofer. I spent a year as an Insurance adjuster as well, climbing roofs in August 95F. Been there, done it.
I never worried about my life, despite having 1-2 close calls on 2-3 story roofs. I DID however worry about my life more than a few xs collecting rents. Dealing with Felons, them knowing I had many $1000s on me, Baby mama drama collecting, late tenants, renting to drug dealers learned after the fact. Owning homes on a major drug traffic street with dealers on the corner with occasional daytime shoot outs in some of the worst neighborhoods in America... These are all job hazards I dont like. Ill take a roof wearing cougar paw shoes and safety harnesses, all day long.
You have NO idea who I am, what I do, who Ive been around and what Ive done.
Everybody is handsome and rich on the internet.
Anyway, how many people are murdered every day in even the worst large city in the US, compared to say, Damascus or Kabul? You know, actual war zones?
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I worked a Summer in Roofing... I had 2 people Murdered on my c8urb...everyone Knowing you have $1000s in your pocket...Ive Had guns pulled on once
What's with all the random capitalization in the middle of sentences? ESL? Globalist Jewish conspiracy against punctuation?
I told myself I wouldnt respond to you, as youre prone to emotional tantrums, muh feels and run back to the moderator, but Ill indulge you as your question is legit.
I never said or intimated that I was rich and famous. Only that Ive been around. Ive spent time in the Ring as a sparring partner for a HW contender, Played D1 Football in the Big 10, been around real gangsters, and folks from all walks of life, lowlifes and rich n famous. I attended one of largest high schools in Ohio and got comfortable with folks from trailer parks to those with trust funds.
The Top 10 cities in the USA have a higher murder rate per capita THAN the cities you mentioned ironically. They are officially war zones. This is Chicago. It has a lower rate than that of Dayton or Cincinnati. And yet its still higher than in Kabul Afganistan. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/16/chicago-homicide-rate-wor_n_1602692.html
The link you posted clearly notes:
CORRECTION #2: The title and first paragraph of this story have been updated to clarify that Chicago’s homicide rate is not higher than Kabul’s, rather the number of homicides in Chicago outpaced that of U.S. troops in Afghanistan as of the date of this piece’s publication.
So, not a vaild counterpoint.
How many people total are killed every day in Damascus or Kabul? How many are killed daily in Chicago? Use valid, current sources.
Now, I'm sure youve been around some real gangsters. Many posters here have. As for the rest of your bio, maybe it's true, maybe it's not. I'm not sure how big the biggest HS in Ohio is, or what relevance it has to this discussion, but I'd doubt it's bigger than the average NYC HS. Which is where I grew up, in a far worse time for crime than currently exists. And even in that era warzone would still be hyperbolic.
And please dont try to pull the 'emotional tantrums' and 'feels' nonsense. I've done neither. I manage to have civilized discussions here with everyone, even when we disagree. You showed up two days ago posting nothing but garbage and behaving like a child and got called out for it. That's life.
You have NO idea who I am, what I do, who Ive been around and what Ive done.
Everybody is handsome and rich on the internet. Anyway, how many people are murdered every day in even the worst large city in the US, compared to say, Damascus or Kabul? You know, actual war zones?
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I worked a Summer in Roofing... I had 2 people Murdered on my c8urb...everyone Knowing you have $1000s in your pocket...Ive Had guns pulled on once
What's with all the random capitalization in the middle of sentences? ESL? Globalist Jewish conspiracy against punctuation?
I told myself I wouldnt respond to you, as youre prone to emotional tantrums, muh feels and run back to the moderator, but Ill indulge you as your question is legit.
I never said or intimated that I was rich and famous. Only that Ive been around. Ive spent time in the Ring as a sparring partner for a HW contender, Played D1 Football in the Big 10, been around real gangsters, and folks from all walks of life, lowlifes and rich n famous. I attended one of largest high schools in Ohio and got comfortable with folks from trailer parks to those with trust funds. The Top 10 cities in the USA have a higher murder rate per capita THAN the cities you mentioned ironically. They are officially war zones. This is Chicago. It has a lower rate than that of Dayton or Cincinnati. And yet its still higher than in Kabul Afganistan. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/16/chicago-homicide-rate-wor_n_1602692.html
The link you posted clearly notes:
CORRECTION #2: The title and first paragraph of this story have been updated to clarify that Chicago’s homicide rate is not higher than Kabul’s, rather the number of homicides in Chicago outpaced that of U.S. troops in Afghanistan as of the date of this piece’s publication.
So, not a vaild counterpoint. How many people total are killed every day in Damascus or Kabul? How many are killed daily in Chicago? Use valid, current sources.
Now, I'm sure youve been around some real gangsters. Many posters here have. As for the rest of your bio, maybe it's true, maybe it's not. I'm not sure how big the biggest HS in Ohio is, or what relevance it has to this discussion, but I'd doubt it's bigger than the average NYC HS. Which is where I grew up, in a far worse time for crime than currently exists. And even in that era warzone would still be hyperbolic.
And please dont try to pull the 'emotional tantrums' and 'feels' nonsense. I've done neither. I manage to have civilized discussions here with everyone, even when we disagree. You showed up two days ago posting nothing but garbage and behaving like a child and got called out for it. Lifes tough, get a helmet.
I dont BS, and I dont lie. Thats all you need to know about me.
If you factor Per capital deaths, Americas Top 10 Murder Capitals, ranks higher than other war zones. Just no IEDs..otherwise, similar levels of violence. Vets come home and get killed by gangbangers. Happens every month it seems.
On my Bio- My school had almost 4,000 students. My point was Im well versed on people, and have friends, acquaintences from all walks of life. And YES, more Americans die in Chicago than die in Iraq on an annual basis, per capita and thte total is actually close.
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10 years U.S. deaths in Chicago = 8,384 vs. the war-zones of Afghanistan & Iraq = 6,778 8,384 vs. 6778
Detroit police declare city to be 'war zone' unsafe for ... (NaturalNews) The once-great city of Detroit is continuing to self-implode, a victim of decades of gross mismanagement that borders on the criminal. Detroit isnt much worse than Dayton or Cincinnati per capita. We are literally comparing 1 US city, not even a TOP 10, to 2 Occupied War zone nations!!
Cincinnati
Winton Terrace & Over The Rhone are both bonafied war zones
Well, Aidan, let's just bet back to the numbers. Roofing, maintenance work, and even fishing are more dangerous jobs than being a police officer. You can't say that police getting shot and not dying should count while not considering that people in these others jobs get serious injuries without dying.
The bottom line is, being a police officer isn't nearly as dangerous as the police say it is. It's more dangerous to be a truck driver.
Well, Aidan, let's just bet back to the numbers. Roofing, maintenance work, and even fishing are more dangerous jobs than being a police officer. You can't say that police getting shot and not dying should count while not considering that people in these others jobs get serious injuries without dying.
The bottom line is, being a police officer isn't nearly as dangerous as the police say it is. It's more dangerous to be a truck driver.
Common sense tells everyone with a 3 digit iq that this isnt true. Depending on the locale of WHERE one is a COP, makes a HUGE difference. Im in the arm pit of the Midwest. High violence region, not rural illinois or iowa.
Honey Im going to be a cop, vs honey im going to drive a truck....I know which one will cause her to kvetch. And for good reason.
I know truck drivers here and cops, went to school with both. My Cop friends all pulled guns, served felony warrants, dealt with death regularly. All were put in harms way as a matter of routine. And they liked it. A masculine trait to want to help others. By contrast, My truck driver friends all have good, nice, higher paying jobs. If you can dodge a serious accident, its a decent job if you can work alone and sit for long periods. Sorry, but your post lacks logic.
Come on, Aidan. Let's not start with the assumptions about IQs. Let's keep it civil. I'm just sharing facts with you.
There are at least 10 jobs that are more dangerous than being a police officers. Most of them do not have reputations for being dangerous jobs. Some are considered easy jobs, when they're obviously not.
I can see how many police or police supporters could be offended or perhaps emasculated by these findings, but that doesn't make them any less true. It just adds perspective to the propaganda police try to spread about how dangerous their jobs are. They're not that dangerous.
Cops have the best job in the world, they can violate civil liberties whenever they feel like it, frame innocent people, beat and shoot people, they can not uphold the constitution just because.
Black Lives Matter, right?
5% are rogue, it that. Video has changed the game, and few incidences of what you describe. Litigation or ghetto lottery assures that they are kept honest.
I don't support Black Lives Matter.
Equality, justice, liberty is what I'm about I don't support groups or "isms" just people
Come on, Aidan. Let's not start with the assumptions about IQs. Let's keep it civil. I'm just sharing facts with you.
There are at least 10 jobs that are more dangerous than being a police officers. Most of them do not have reputations for being dangerous jobs. Some are considered easy jobs, when they're obviously not.
I can see how many police or police supporters could be offended or perhaps emasculated by these findings, but that doesn't make them any less true. It just adds perspective to the propaganda police try to spread about how dangerous their jobs are. They're not that dangerous.
There are job hazards with fishing, and roofing. No doubt. But cops respond TO Gunfire, TO Robberys in progress, To murders and shots. The profession is worthy of respect. Same with Firemen. True Men. Brave guys that run INTO fires
Cop is not the Top 10 Most Dangerous, its #11, because in the last 5 years, cop murder #s are down. They are de-policing, due to the race pimps, post rioting nonsense. Go back Pre 2010 and it was a TOP 10 Most Dangerous, and theyre still underpaid at 55k average.
Id take my chances on a fishing boat, knowing falling in water is a hazard, or being stupid and getting hit with a net might cause me harm. Most of that I can control. Same with roofing. Wear a harness, Wear cougar paw shoes. Dont be hungover. Stay hydrated. ie Controllable. Cops cant control what runs they go on, what idiot decides to shoot up a place, or shoot at you serving a warrant. No thanks
But cops respond TO Gunfire, TO Robberys in progress, To murders and shots.
No, they don't.
Most cops don't respond to any of these things. A few do. Most never have to. That's why there are so many jobs with higher death rates than that of a police officer.
After the senseless death and tragic funerals of two young New York City policeman, cops have got to be thinking about assassination. “I want to go home to my wife and kids,†said a cop to the New York Post.†I am concerned about my safety.â€
On NBC’s Meet the Press,†NYC Police Commissioner William Bratton said that cops across the country “feel under attackâ€
They have good reason to worry. Getting killed is a hazard in many occupations, but there is one glaring difference between death risks of law enforcement officers and those of other dangerous occupations: only police officers face the threat of murder as a part of their job. No one is out trying to kill fisherman or loggers or garbage collectors.
A cop on the street endures daily contact with drunks, the mentally disabled and violent criminals. They endure life-and-death situations on a daily basis.
However, the misconception that police work is dangerous, propagated by the media and police unions, could become a self-fulfilling prophecy— especially if police believe that they are going into deadly battle when they head out on patrol. They are likely to be nervous and trigger-happy and might affect their decision-making in a stressful situation.
The fact is: being a policeman is not one of the most dangerous jobs you can have, according to statistics from the Bureau of Labor.
In five years, 2008 to 2012, only one policeman was killed by a firearm in the line of duty in New York City. Police officers are many times more likely to commit suicide than to be killed by a criminal; nine NYC policemen attempted to take their own lives in 2012, alone. Eight succeeded. In 2013, eight NYPD officers attempted suicide, while six succeeded. If police want to protect themselves, a wise move might be to invest in psychiatric counseling, rather than increased firepower.
2013 had the fewest police deaths by firearms since 1887 nationwide.
The national figures vary widely from year to year. In 2014, police deaths in the line of duty, including heart attacks, spiked upward from 100 in 2013, to 126 in 2014.
But the trend has been clearly downward in the last 40 years. Police work is getting progressively safer compared with historical averages:
From 1970 to 1980 police deaths averaged 231 per year.
1980 to 1989: police deaths averaged 190.7.
1990 to 1999: police deaths averaged 161.5.
2000 to 2009: police deaths averaged 165.
2013 to 2014: police deaths averaged 113.
Statistics are drawn from the police friendly National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund which also show that felony killings of police dropped by 50 percent from 1992 to 2013 from 10,000 to 5,000 annually per 100,000 residents.
Statistics are notably unreliable both from the federal government and from law enforcement friendly sites. The best statistics come from the New York City Police Firearms Discharge Reports.
The report for 2013 noted the following:
—- In 1971, 12 officers were killed by other persons and police shot and killed 93 subjects.
—- In 2013, no officers were shot and killed and police killed eight subjects.
To put the risk of policing in perspective: fisherman and loggers are 10 times more likely to be killed on the job than a police officer, a farmer is 2 times more likely to die on the job, according to national figures from the Bureau of Labor Statistics. A logging worker is eight times more likely than a police officer to die on the job, and a garbage man is three times more likely to die while working.
The 10 Deadliest Jobs: Deaths per 100,000
1. Logging workers: 128.8 2. Fishers and related fishing workers: 117 3. Aircraft pilot and flight engineers: 53.4 4. Roofers: 40.5 5. Structural iron and steel workers: 37 6. Refuse and recyclable material collectors: 27.1 7. Electrical power-line installers and repairers: 23 8. Drivers/sales workers and truck drivers: 22.1 9. Farmers, ranchers, and other agricultural managers: 21.3 10. Construction laborers: 17.4
Out of approximately one million police and law enforcement personnel, with 126 deaths per year, the death rate for police is 12.6 per hundred thousand.
The most dangerous job in the U.S. is being president. Eight out of 44 presidents died in office, about 18 percent. Four were assassinated, just over 9 percent.
Most policemen killed on the job die in accidents (mostly auto), not from firearm assault, according to the FBI.
According to FBI figures (which are slightly different than other tabulations), 14 of the 76 police deaths in 2013, nation-wide, were due to auto accidents —- when the officer wasn’t wearing a seatbelt. Tragic for sure.
Of the 76 cops who died in the line of duty in 2013, 18 of them were from gunfire. The rest were traffic fatalities or slips and falls.
Assailants used personal weapons (hands, fists, feet, etc.) in 80.2 percent of the incidents, firearms in 4.3 percent of incidents, and knives or other cutting instruments in 1.7 percent of the incidents.
About 40 percent of officers (30) who die in the line of duty are homicides, which would give police a murder rate of 3 per 100,000, compared with the average national murder rate for the general population of 5.6 per 100,000.
The average citizen of Chicago had a murder risk of 18.5 in 2012, more than three times the murder risk of policeman. Police killings are almost always classified as line-of-duty.
In reality, police don’t draw or fire their guns very much.
Many NYC cops never draw their weapons in their whole career. In New York City, only one cop in 755 fired his or her gun at a suspect intentionally in 2012. In 2013, only one of 850 officers fired a weapon at a suspect intentionally.
In 2012, 80.2 percent of officers who were assaulted in the line of duty were attacked with personal weapons (e.g., hands, fists, or feet). 4.3 percent of the officers were assaulted with firearms.
The reason a policeman’s job is getting safer is simple. There has been a dramatic drop in crime in the last two decades. Less crime means safer working conditions for the people who try to stop it.
The act of policing needs to be safer. Use body cameras. Cut down on the number of traffic accidents. Mandate the use of seat belts on duty. Enforce better and more professional training to avoid dangerous situations, and offer better counseling to deal with the stress of the job.
Attacks on police are a great media story, but if the false narrative — that policing is getting more dangerous — continues to spread it will have a significant effect on how police do their jobs —- making them more fearful than they already are, with increasingly deadly results for the general public.
After the senseless death and tragic funerals of two young New York City policeman, cops have got to be thinking about assassination. “I want to go home to my wife and kids,†said a cop to the New York Post.†I am concerned about my safety.â€
On NBC’s Meet the Press,†NYC Police Commissioner William Bratton said that cops across the country “feel under attack†They have good reason to worry. Getting killed is a hazard in many occupations, but there is one glaring difference between death risks of law enforcement officers and those of other dangerous occupations: only police officers face the threat of murder as a part of their job. No one is out trying to kill fisherman or loggers or garbage collectors.
A cop on the street endures daily contact with drunks, the mentally disabled and violent criminals. They endure life-and-death situations on a daily basis. However, the misconception that police work is dangerous, propagated by the media and police unions, could become a self-fulfilling prophecy— especially if police believe that they are going into deadly battle when they head out on patrol. They are likely to be nervous and trigger-happy and might affect their decision-making in a stressful situation.
The fact is: being a policeman is not one of the most dangerous jobs you can have, according to statistics from the Bureau of Labor. In five years, 2008 to 2012, only one policeman was killed by a firearm in the line of duty in New York City. Police officers are many times more likely to commit suicide than to be killed by a criminal; nine NYC policemen attempted to take their own lives in 2012, alone. Eight succeeded. In 2013, eight NYPD officers attempted suicide, while six succeeded. If police want to protect themselves, a wise move might be to invest in psychiatric counseling, rather than increased firepower.
2013 had the fewest police deaths by firearms since 1887 nationwide. The national figures vary widely from year to year. In 2014, police deaths in the line of duty, including heart attacks, spiked upward from 100 in 2013, to 126 in 2014.
But the trend has been clearly downward in the last 40 years. Police work is getting progressively safer compared with historical averages: From 1970 to 1980 police deaths averaged 231 per year. 1980 to 1989: police deaths averaged 190.7. 1990 to 1999: police deaths averaged 161.5. 2000 to 2009: police deaths averaged 165. 2013 to 2014: police deaths averaged 113.
Statistics are drawn from the police friendly National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund which also show that felony killings of police dropped by 50 percent from 1992 to 2013 from 10,000 to 5,000 annually per 100,000 residents. Statistics are notably unreliable both from the federal government and from law enforcement friendly sites. The best statistics come from the New York City Police Firearms Discharge Reports.
The report for 2013 noted the following:
—- In 1971, 12 officers were killed by other persons and police shot and killed 93 subjects. —- In 2013, no officers were shot and killed and police killed eight subjects.
To put the risk of policing in perspective: fisherman and loggers are 10 times more likely to be killed on the job than a police officer, a farmer is 2 times more likely to die on the job, according to national figures from the Bureau of Labor Statistics. A logging worker is eight times more likely than a police officer to die on the job, and a garbage man is three times more likely to die while working.
The 10 Deadliest Jobs: Deaths per 100,000
1. Logging workers: 128.8 2. Fishers and related fishing workers: 117 3. Aircraft pilot and flight engineers: 53.4 4. Roofers: 40.5 5. Structural iron and steel workers: 37 6. Refuse and recyclable material collectors: 27.1 7. Electrical power-line installers and repairers: 23 8. Drivers/sales workers and truck drivers: 22.1 9. Farmers, ranchers, and other agricultural managers: 21.3 10. Construction laborers: 17.4
Out of approximately one million police and law enforcement personnel, with 126 deaths per year, the death rate for police is 12.6 per hundred thousand. The most dangerous job in the U.S. is being president. Eight out of 44 presidents died in office, about 18 percent. Four were assassinated, just over 9 percent. Most policemen killed on the job die in accidents (mostly auto), not from firearm assault, according to the FBI.
According to FBI figures (which are slightly different than other tabulations), 14 of the 76 police deaths in 2013, nation-wide, were due to auto accidents —- when the officer wasn’t wearing a seatbelt. Tragic for sure. Of the 76 cops who died in the line of duty in 2013, 18 of them were from gunfire. The rest were traffic fatalities or slips and falls.
Assailants used personal weapons (hands, fists, feet, etc.) in 80.2 percent of the incidents, firearms in 4.3 percent of incidents, and knives or other cutting instruments in 1.7 percent of the incidents. About 40 percent of officers (30) who die in the line of duty are homicides, which would give police a murder rate of 3 per 100,000, compared with the average national murder rate for the general population of 5.6 per 100,000. The average citizen of Chicago had a murder risk of 18.5 in 2012, more than three times the murder risk of policeman. Police killings are almost always classified as line-of-duty. In reality, police don’t draw or fire their guns very much.
Many NYC cops never draw their weapons in their whole career. In New York City, only one cop in 755 fired his or her gun at a suspect intentionally in 2012. In 2013, only one of 850 officers fired a weapon at a suspect intentionally. In 2012, 80.2 percent of officers who were assaulted in the line of duty were attacked with personal weapons (e.g., hands, fists, or feet). 4.3 percent of the officers were assaulted with firearms.
The reason a policeman’s job is getting safer is simple. There has been a dramatic drop in crime in the last two decades. Less crime means safer working conditions for the people who try to stop it. The act of policing needs to be safer. Use body cameras. Cut down on the number of traffic accidents. Mandate the use of seat belts on duty. Enforce better and more professional training to avoid dangerous situations, and offer better counseling to deal with the stress of the job. Attacks on police are a great media story, but if the false narrative — that policing is getting more dangerous — continues to spread it will have a significant effect on how police do their jobs —- making them more fearful than they already are, with increasingly deadly results for the general public.
I read it. Police is #11, its basically a tie for #10.
Actually it is YOU that is doing the trolling. You are Playing the Anti Cop card, minimizing the inherent dangers of that work, discounting the rates of injury on that job.
I told you I had decided to ignore you previously. Now I mean it. You are on ignore. I will not EVER respond to another post of yours.
If you post actual statistics regarding police dangers vs. other job dangers, you're anti-cop? My goodness....
No.
When YOU make comments like these, you are Anti Cop
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If you're going to factor body armor, you have to factor how many roofers took a tumble, were seriously injured, but didn't die. No way around it. There are at least 10 occupations which workers take more of a risk than police offices, and none of them are first responders. The danger of a police officer's job is hyperbole, propagated by their unions.
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Yeah, let's see you get on that roof on a July morning when it's expected to hit triple digit temperatures, for the 14th day straight, and then nearly lose your balance while ripping out shingles. You'd take a job staring down tweens like Wyatt Earp while riding around in the ghettos in an air conditioned police cruiser, in a heartbeat.
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But the odds are, you won't get shot at by a gang banger. The odds of falling off that roof or having a heat stroke were much greater. There are at least 10 jobs more dangerous than that of a police officers, among them roofing, maintenance work...and fishing.
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Well, Aidan, let's just bet back to the numbers. Roofing, maintenance work, and even fishing are more dangerous jobs than being a police officer. You can't say that police getting shot and not dying should count while not considering that people in these others jobs get serious injuries without dying. The bottom line is, being a police officer isn't nearly as dangerous as the police say it is. It's more dangerous to be a truck driver.
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If you're going to say that roof accidents are self caused, then it could be the case for police injuries, too. They too could have been taking unnecessary risks outside of their legal authority. They could have been acting like idiots.
What YOU dont mention, is that a Cops job, up until only 5 years ago, was about the #7th Most Dangerous Job, as Murder rates half been halfed in that time for cops. Its presently the 11th Most dangerous, basically in a tie for 10th. Im postulating that its due to de-policing and restraint, again, race pimps, litigation and public scrutiny have forced them to sit back on their heels.
Overall, I appreciate the job they and the firemen do. They pretty much are the the only thing protecting our society from a lawless breakdown, and even that is on a fine thread.
I saw it with the Cincinnati Riots in 2002, when 150 whites were pulled and beaten from their cars, for being white. When cops were sniped at and hit. I remember it well. City curfew, National Guard on the verge of being called in. Hearing gun shots nightly from my home.
Not anti-cop at all. I'm pro truth. Just sharing facts. Being a police officer is not nearly as dangerous as police say it is.
1. YOU Are very much ANTI Cop. Your post has it written all over them..
2. You are NOT Pro Truth. YOU are Pro Agenda.
3. You have not shared facts, Just bias & ridiculous hypotheticals, with twisted circular logic. in YOUR Mind, Being a Cop is not dangerous, but in truth, it is an extremely dangerous job in most major cities, one of the worst jobs in the USA, and the #11 Most Dangerous Job In America. 5 years ago, it was the 7th Most Dangerous Job.
What I'm getting out of all of this ongoing investigation into Russia is that Trump won without cheating and HILARY lost with cheating. Those facts are indisputable. Oak, how would you fix the school problem? Enough of your fuck the police nonsense and let's hear your ideas.
Were you at one time a cop? How can you make these claims? What experiences in life have you had that you can weigh in on anything?
I quoted from a Mainstream News source, who listed the occupation 11th Most Dangerous, ranking them in order from 1-11. Cop was 11-11. Most Dangerous.
NOW, Factor in that there are many MORE Cops than Fishermen and Loggers. And Factor IN the Cops that work in High Crime Large Metro Cities vs those in whitebread Iowa, Vermont, NH, WY, MT, ND, SD etc, and you have a Very Dangerous Job.
As mentioned, I have friends whose occupation are cops, 1 a former police chief, and others who are truck drivers. I know from personal testimony that being a cop here in SW Ohio is Far more dangerous than as a trucker on our interstates. Id roof or drive a truck on I75 anyday vs serving a Felony warrant.
Some of this is Common Sense, and you have to apply it and know HOW to read stats, and interpret them. And I hope you read the part of the stat I listed that showed that cop murders are down almost 50% in the last 6 years.
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From 1970 to 1980 police deaths averaged 231 per year. 1980 to 1989: police deaths averaged 190.7. 1990 to 1999: police deaths averaged 161.5. 2000 to 2009: police deaths averaged 165. 2013 to 2014: police deaths averaged 113.'
Factor those murders at previous levels just a few years ago, and a cop is the 7th most dangerous job. Again, they are De-Policing to stay out of Rev Jesse and Al Sharptons cross hairs.
Now, with Trump, they can get back to actually do their jobs, which are basically thankless in most black and hispanic hoods. But carry on with the Police bash fest ad Black Lives Matter all you want.
The statistics are per captia. Doesn't matter how many are in each profession.
It's just a fact. Fishing is more dangerous than being a cop. So is maintenance work. So is roofing. The numbers don't lie.
NO. Its not a fact. There are many factors TO consider, like WHERE and What district does a Cop work? If its a Top 25 Most Violent City, with aggressive policing policy, and higher black demographic, then its far more dangerous to be a cop. So it DOES matter how many, because policing in Cleveland, Detroit or Cincinnati is one helluva lot more dangerous than Vt, NH, or Iowa when compared to fishing.
Of course, the #s are per capita, I never disputed that, as there arent that many fisherman. We only have 2 coasts and a few great lakes. We have an entire inland in between of land mass between that water, that is populated and needs policing. Hence, many more numbers of cops. Some in entire states that see relatively little crime.
I never disputed that there arent hazards with fishing, or roofing. No dispute. You did however, and posted some nonsense and lots of crap with an anti cop agenda.
And again, IF roofers and fisherman take proper precautions-cougar paw shoes safety harness etc, the job is infinitely more safe. If guess for fisherman, that wearing a life vest- common sense type stuff, is a life saver...All preventables. Cops have NO such measures to take. They already Wear armor vests.
The same factors could be considered in the other professions.
Such, as, where do such roofers work. What is the weather like. What is the wind like.
You can't use a standard to skew numbers on one side and not use them for the other. It wouldn't be honest.
Weather isnt an issue for roofers. Most like it hotter, makes for better footing. All bring water, coolers and take breaks. Ive been around 100s of job sites as an adjuster and roofer, and roof salesman. You have NO idea what youre talking about, that much is sure. I do. And firsthand.
There is nothing to skew with roofers. Either they wear safety harness (Ocea labor code) for wind and fall prevention or they dont. And cougar paws and use foam. Their environment and safety can be made very safe just with these things. A Cops job with armed assailants & felons as variables, cannot.
Construction work is definately more dangerous then being a cop.
Cop makes a bad split second decision he through his union has millions of dollars of legal help behind him.
Al sharpton knows that so when he says a poor black man deserves the same kind of legal help. So he steps in I agree with that.
Most cops never have to use their gun in a life and death situation. I agree with that as well.
The four cops who were first on the scene of that school shooting were gutless cowards. They heard shots being fired and they did nothing. They let those kids get shot and killed to me they are cowards. The chief of their police department should be fired. The fbi and them knew about him did nothing. The guy who took the kid in after his adopted mother died should be locked up. The adopted mother should have been locked up years ago.
Everyone is guilty.
The democrats turned it into a politics instead of doing the right thing to protect those kids. They are more guilty.
I would think wind would be a factor for roofers. Sudden wind gusts. Anyhow, there's several others. That was just one example. So, you can take any of these professions aside from that of police officer, and point out factors that would effect various locations. It all evens out.
You said that being a cop is the worst job in America. It's not even close. And, considering the eligibility requirements for pensions and even paid leaves, it's actually a very easy job, with exception to the rare event of taking live fire.
I would think wind would be a factor for roofers. Sudden wind gusts. Anyhow, there's several others. That was just one example. So, you can take any of these professions aside from that of police officer, and point out factors that would effect various locations. It all evens out.
You said that being a cop is the worst job in America. It's not even close. And, considering the eligibility requirements for pensions and even paid leaves, it's actually a very easy job, with exception to the rare event of taking live fire.
Guy that work high up have safety lines and another worker as their partner. But if the fall even with the safety line they will night die, but they are definately going to get hurt.
Oak don’t even use live fire as an excuse for them not doing their job. So they don’t go into to a school because they might be fired upon. That what those 4 want you to say.
I would think wind would be a factor for roofers. Sudden wind gusts. Anyhow, there's several others. That was just one example. So, you can take any of these professions aside from that of police officer, and point out factors that would effect various locations. It all evens out.
You said that being a cop is the worst job in America. It's not even close. And, considering the eligibility requirements for pensions and even paid leaves, it's actually a very easy job, with exception to the rare event of taking live fire.
Qualifier. Being a COP in a Top 25 Murder Capital City is far and away, the Worst Job in America. Unless you live on a farm, or white state, your police are over stressed, overworked, and undervalued.
Wind only a factor in Chicago, Cleveland or Buffalo-high rise commerical type especially, but they are usually Union and OCEA strict.
My ex son in law is a nyc cop he is definately a coward. The job attraction for him is get his 20 yrs in and retire.
I say take away their semi automatics and bring back the revolver so they have to aim and shoot. Now they hide behind a wall and shoot their 17rounds or more without aiming. That is how innocent people get hit.
Even in cities with the highest murder rates, most cops will never need to use their guns, nor will they take fire. Many of these cities, no matter how poor, have most of their budgets going to police officers. In many of them, police are eligible for retirement in as early as 20 years. Cops have a pretty sweet deal nowadays. You can do a lot worse.
My ex son in law is a nyc cop he is definately a coward. The job attraction for him is get his 20 yrs in and retire.
I say take away their semi automatics and bring back the revolver so they have to aim and shoot. Now they hide behind a wall and shoot their 17rounds or more without aiming. That is how innocent people get hit.
Very Few people are even shot today by cops...about 500 a year. Most shootings are black officers shooting black perps IN commission of a Felony.
One doesnt need to be Superman to be a cop, but one cant or shouldnt be a coward either, you dont know until youre in that position.
Even in cities with the highest murder rates, most cops will never need to use their guns, nor will they take fire. Many of these cities, no matter how poor, have most of their budgets going to police officers. In many of them, police are eligible for retirement in as early as 20 years. Cops have a pretty sweet deal nowadays. You can do a lot worse.
Never said they do or will. COPS are the line between chaos and order. Period. If you value lawlessness, move to Nigeria or East St Louis, almost 1 in the same, low budget with few cops and out of hand crime.
Some cops have desk jobs, some work in detention center, some file, some book. A Beat Cop in a Top 25 City Has a Dangerous Job. You can type until youre blue in the face and that wont change this reality. Im done with this thread, because the iq on here is lowering mine.
Even in cities with the highest murder rates, most cops will never need to use their guns, nor will they take fire. Many of these cities, no matter how poor, have most of their budgets going to police officers. In many of them, police are eligible for retirement in as early as 20 years. Cops have a pretty sweet deal nowadays. You can do a lot worse.
My paperboy when I had one made more then a cop makes to start with. That is why cops take money. You can not support a family on what a cop makes.
At NYC police graduation day you see people representing places like Seattle they offer almost double the NYC police starting salary. For rookie cops to relocate to Seattle.
My ex son in law is a nyc cop he is definately a coward. The job attraction for him is get his 20 yrs in and retire.
I say take away their semi automatics and bring back the revolver so they have to aim and shoot. Now they hide behind a wall and shoot their 17rounds or more without aiming. That is how innocent people get hit.
Very Few people are even shot today by cops...about 500 a year. Most shootings are black officers shooting black perps IN commission of a Felony.
One doesnt need to be Superman to be a cop, but one cant or shouldnt be a coward either, you dont know until youre in that position.
I am an old man but in general I love kids. I coached them soccer. I love helping them with their game like my first coach helped me with my game.
If I were near that school in Florida and I heard shots fired I would go in with a gun if I had one or even with a knife to try to help them. If I made it out I would make it out if not that’s the way it goes
First of all trump has a carry permit and so does at least one of his sons. I am pretty sure he would have gone in. I would have also.
A liberal would run.
Every heard of Steve Busemiente something like that a working actor a former fireman. He was living in NYC when the towers were hit. This guy would go in everyday looking for survivors and the cleanout. He had balls. A lot if firemen are like that.
Obama certainly have went in but would have used his wife and kids as human shields for protection.
Remember the man that rushed at Trump during a Trump rally. If you look closely at the video clip Trump did no back down and wanted to confront the guy but was held down by secret service. I truly believe he would gone in the school and confront the shooter.
Dimb Dumb mentioned the Phillipines. Look at how Duterte is handling their drug problem. Kill the scum of society. They get a chance to go to rehab call or you're dead. As a citizen you have the right to execute a drug dealer or usr and you get a medal. It's working quite well. That's a little too extreme for some here in the USA. Everybody deserves a second, third, fourth, fifth chance.
Donald Trump Apparently Stopped a Mugging in 1991, Resurfaced Report Says
I figured this would pop up here eventually. This shit is laughable tbh. The only identified witness says Trump didn't even do anything, but of course the "unnamed witness" backs up everything Trump says. This is coming from a guy known to do anything for publicity, and who would routinely plant stories about himself in the media.
This is the same guy we're talking about right? The guy who can't stand the sight of blood is gonna turn into Batman?
I'm the first to admit when the media blows frivolous things involving Trump out of proportion, because that definitely happens, but this shit is a joke and I'm shocked you guys are buying into this bullshit.
Obama certainly have went in but would have used his wife and kids as human shields for protection.
Remember the man that rushed at Trump during a Trump rally. If you look closely at the video clip Trump did no back down and wanted to confront the guy but was held down by secret service. I truly believe he would gone in the school and confront the shooter.
so you really believe that he wanted to get into his first fight of his life at 70plus years of age?
he wouldn't have gone into that school if that degenerate mothafucka (school shooter) stole his hairpiece
The readers can see the Black Lives Matter Supporters, SJW retards and Israelis on this board, who all hate Trump despite his accomplishments in DC with an inept Party on either aisle and a huge task in draining an immense toxic swamp.
They really show their colors, dont they? Oy gevalt. Kvetching and moaning that Hillary didnt get in. Girl power and all that.
The readers can see the Black Lives Matter Supporters, SJW retards and Israelis on this board, who all hate Trump despite his accomplishments in DC with an inept Party on either aisle and a huge task in draining an immense toxic swamp.
They really show their colors, dont they? Oy gevalt. Kvetching and moaning that Hillary didnt get in. Girl power and all that.
only an immoral and sick individual would think somebody's life doesn't matter because they're black
i can't even remember the last time BLM had a rally but yet its etched into your brain
trump is taking credit for things the last adminstration got accomplished, he hasn't been president long enough for his efforts to have taken affect
he needs another full year before he can actually take claim for any of americas improvements under his leadership
They did the same thing with Bush. There was some incident where one of Bush's detail got tangled up with someone, and then, according to Bush supporters, he sprung to action and grabbed the guy's hand and whisked him out of there. If you watch the actual video, Bush is basically just standing there with his hand out. He didn't do anything. Stans see what they want to see.
I'm an Obama supporter but I don't have any delusions about him going into a building to take on a mass shooter. I don't think any president would, except maybe Eisenhower. Definitely not Trump. He's a bitch.
Even in cities with the highest murder rates, most cops will never need to use their guns, nor will they take fire. Many of these cities, no matter how poor, have most of their budgets going to police officers. In many of them, police are eligible for retirement in as early as 20 years. Cops have a pretty sweet deal nowadays. You can do a lot worse.
Never said they do or will. COPS are the line between chaos and order. Period. If you value lawlessness, move to Nigeria or East St Louis, almost 1 in the same, low budget with few cops and out of hand crime.
Some cops have desk jobs, some work in detention center, some file, some book. A Beat Cop in a Top 25 City Has a Dangerous Job. You can type until youre blue in the face and that wont change this reality. Im done with this thread, because the iq on here is lowering mine.
Why don't u b done w/this board...do everyone a relieving favor..
Donald Trump Apparently Stopped a Mugging in 1991, Resurfaced Report Says
I figured this would pop up here eventually. This shit is laughable tbh. The only identified witness says Trump didn't even do anything, but of course the "unnamed witness" backs up everything Trump says. This is coming from a guy known to do anything for publicity, and who would routinely plant stories about himself in the media.
This is the same guy we're talking about right? The guy who can't stand the sight of blood is gonna turn into Batman?
I'm the first to admit when the media blows frivolous things involving Trump out of proportion, because that definitely happens, but this shit is a joke and I'm shocked you guys are buying into this bullshit.
So you guys are allowed to buy in this bullshit Russian collusion and hear fake news from CNN everyday but we can't believe in our hero Donald Trump about something that happened in 1991. This isn't fair, I think I am going to need a safe space.
Obama certainly have went in but would have used his wife and kids as human shields for protection.
Remember the man that rushed at Trump during a Trump rally. If you look closely at the video clip Trump did no back down and wanted to confront the guy but was held down by secret service. I truly believe he would gone in the school and confront the shooter.
so you really believe that he wanted to get into his first fight of his life at 70plus years of age?
he wouldn't have gone into that school if that degenerate mothafucka (school shooter) stole his hairpiece
Make fun of his hair piece but one thing for sure we do know who the cowards are starting with that Sheriff Isreal and his fearless deputies. Implementing liberal leftist policies like not reporting those 45 warning calls they had about the shooter. Not arresting people so that their crime stats. would look good for the purpose of getting grants. So if that denerate mothafucka Sheriff had done his job, Trump would not have to worry about his hair piece.
Donald Trump Apparently Stopped a Mugging in 1991, Resurfaced Report Says
I figured this would pop up here eventually. This shit is laughable tbh. The only identified witness says Trump didn't even do anything, but of course the "unnamed witness" backs up everything Trump says. This is coming from a guy known to do anything for publicity, and who would routinely plant stories about himself in the media.
This is the same guy we're talking about right? The guy who can't stand the sight of blood is gonna turn into Batman?
I'm the first to admit when the media blows frivolous things involving Trump out of proportion, because that definitely happens, but this shit is a joke and I'm shocked you guys are buying into this bullshit.
So you guys are allowed to buy in this bullshit Russian collusion and hear fake news from CNN everyday but we can't believe in our hero Donald Trump about something that happened in 1991. This isn't fair, I think I am going to need a safe space.
Ciment, we may disagree on things but I believe we've always provided valid reasons as to why, so I'm not sure why you're turning to sarcasm and strawmen at this point. I've never posted about Russia, never posted a link from CNN either for that matter. All I'm asking is that you guys at least be realistic about this shit, Trump says shit like that because he knows he'll never have to back it up and it's extremely transparent, but I guess it works because you guys eat it up. IMO it's ridiculous, but we all have a right to our opinion.
Donald Trump Apparently Stopped a Mugging in 1991, Resurfaced Report Says
I figured this would pop up here eventually. This shit is laughable tbh. The only identified witness says Trump didn't even do anything, but of course the "unnamed witness" backs up everything Trump says. This is coming from a guy known to do anything for publicity, and who would routinely plant stories about himself in the media.
This is the same guy we're talking about right? The guy who can't stand the sight of blood is gonna turn into Batman?
I'm the first to admit when the media blows frivolous things involving Trump out of proportion, because that definitely happens, but this shit is a joke and I'm shocked you guys are buying into this bullshit.
So you guys are allowed to buy in this bullshit Russian collusion and hear fake news from CNN everyday but we can't believe in our hero Donald Trump about something that happened in 1991. This isn't fair, I think I am going to need a safe space.
Ciment, we may disagree on things but I believe we've always provided valid reasons as to why, so I'm not sure why you're turning to sarcasm and strawmen at this point. I've never posted about Russia, never posted a link from CNN either for that matter. All I'm asking is that you guys at least be realistic about this shit, Trump says shit like that because he knows he'll never have to back it up and it's extremely transparent, but I guess it works because you guys eat it up. IMO it's ridiculous, but we all have a right to our opinion.
Why does it bother you when Trump says trivial things ? Should you not judge a person by what he does and not what he says. Why is it when democrats say crazy things like impeach him, that he is racist, that republicans are deplorables , rednecks ,white spremacist and get away with all this but when Trump plays politics and says trivial things it make the front page of every newspaper. Mainstream media never talk about the good things he has done but make a big fuzz on a story that happened in 1991.
I am willing to debate with you on serious matters without the use of sarcasm but you must also do your part in picking serious subjects and not use this trivial story that happened to Trump in 1991 as a basis for serious discussion. I used it knowingly because the media always makes fun of Trump and I like to have fun too. What bothers me is when politicians to not fulfill their promises and not what happened in 1991.
Implementing liberal leftist policies like not reporting those 45 warning calls they had about the shooter.
Every state has tools to detain mentally ill people who pose a threat to the public. All 50. The reason why the police didn't take action any of those times is because they simply don't care. The problem is with law enforcement.
But don't take my word for it. Here's your very next sentence:
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Not arresting people so that their crime stats. would look good for the purpose of getting grants.
More evidence that the problem is with law enforcement. Thank you.
Implementing liberal leftist policies like not reporting those 45 warning calls they had about the shooter.
Every state has tools to detain mentally ill people who pose a threat to the public. All 50. The reason why the police didn't take action any of those times is because they simply don't care. The problem is with law enforcement.
But don't take my word for it. Here's your very next sentence:
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Not arresting people so that their crime stats. would look good for the purpose of getting grants.
More evidence that the problem is with law enforcement. Thank you.
I do not paint all law enforcement with the same paint brush. There are cops that do their job. Broward county was following liberal policies implemented by the previous administration. Not all counties behave like Broward county does. Many have policies in place to neutralize the shooter not wait outside and smoke a cigarette.There has been many instances in the past shootings where cops died in line of duty. You like to cherry pick one situation and apply it for all; things don't work that way. Thank you too!
Why does it bother you when Trump says trivial things ? Should you not judge a person by what he does and not what he says. Why is it when democrats say crazy things like impeach him, that he is racist, that republicans are deplorables , rednecks ,white spremacist and get away with all this but when Trump plays politics and says trivial things it make the front page of every newspaper. Mainstream media never talk about the good things he has done but make a big fuzz on a story that happened in 1991.
I am willing to debate with you on serious matters without the use of sarcasm but you must also do your part in picking serious subjects and not use this trivial story that happened to Trump in 1991 as a basis for serious discussion. I used it knowingly because the media always makes fun of Trump and I like to have fun too. What bothers me is when politicians to not fulfill their promises and not what happened in 1991.
Lol I didn't choose this subject, it was in response to a link you posted because you think it makes Trump appear heroic. It doesn't bother me when he makes these statements, he's a shameless self-promoter so that's what I expect of him. I just can't believe you guys actually buy it. The liberal media isn't making a story out of that '91 incident, Trumps supporters, such as yourself, are the only ones giving that story any traction. I first saw it on The_Donald subreddit where they were praising their glorious leader.
I suppose the point I'm getting at is that idol-worship and "my hero can do no wrong" attitudes are dangerous. I can't take anyone who thinks Trump can do no wrong serious, and it was the same with people who worshiped Obama. It's just not mentally healthy to blindly believe everything you hear from one side because the truth usually lies somewhere in the middle.
I do agree that politicians should fulfill their promises. Although Trump hasn't been doing the best job with that, I hope he does better because I want our nation to do better regardless of who is in charge, which is something I think is lost these days, people only want their side to do well and IMO that's sad because we're all American. You can check Trump's progress here:
The media makes mountains out of molehills with Trump, and they did the same with Obama, and the same before them with Bush Jr. It comes with the office. If you want to be arguably the most recognized man on Earth, it will come with scrutiny no matter what.
Why does it bother you when Trump says trivial things ? Should you not judge a person by what he does and not what he says. Why is it when democrats say crazy things like impeach him, that he is racist, that republicans are deplorables , rednecks ,white spremacist and get away with all this but when Trump plays politics and says trivial things it make the front page of every newspaper. Mainstream media never talk about the good things he has done but make a big fuzz on a story that happened in 1991.
I am willing to debate with you on serious matters without the use of sarcasm but you must also do your part in picking serious subjects and not use this trivial story that happened to Trump in 1991 as a basis for serious discussion. I used it knowingly because the media always makes fun of Trump and I like to have fun too. What bothers me is when politicians to not fulfill their promises and not what happened in 1991.
Lol I didn't choose this subject, it was in response to a link you posted because you think it makes Trump appear heroic. It doesn't bother me when he makes these statements, he's a shameless self-promoter so that's what I expect of him. I just can't believe you guys actually buy it. The liberal media isn't making a story out of that '91 incident, Trumps supporters, such as yourself, are the only ones giving that story any traction. I first saw it on The_Donald subreddit where they were praising their glorious leader.
I suppose the point I'm getting at is that idol-worship and "my hero can do no wrong" attitudes are dangerous. I can't take anyone who thinks Trump can do no wrong serious, and it was the same with people who worshiped Obama. It's just not mentally healthy to blindly believe everything you hear from one side because the truth usually lies somewhere in the middle.
I do agree that politicians should fulfill their promises. Although Trump hasn't been doing the best job with that, I hope he does better because I want our nation to do better regardless of who is in charge, which is something I think is lost these days, people only want their side to do well and IMO that's sad because we're all American. You can check Trump's progress here:
The media makes mountains out of molehills with Trump, and they did the same with Obama, and the same before them with Bush Jr. It comes with the office. If you want to be arguably the most recognized man on Earth, it will come with scrutiny no matter what.
Didn't I say in my last statement I brought it up because the media makes fun of Trump so this is why I put the link so that I can have fun too.
You said it your self that I was using sarcasm and now you say that I idol worship. It can only be one or the other. I was even honest with you in saying it was trivial. I only worship my god no one else. Unfortunately, I was willing to meet you half way but you seem to be upset. I do not have to check on Trump's progress. I know what he did. I do not have my blinders on unlike some democrats that will be receiving more money on their paychecks, benefits,jobs,bonuses and still spit on Trump afterwards.
Obama certainly have went in but would have used his wife and kids as human shields for protection.
Remember the man that rushed at Trump during a Trump rally. If you look closely at the video clip Trump did no back down and wanted to confront the guy but was held down by secret service. I truly believe he would gone in the school and confront the shooter.
so you really believe that he wanted to get into his first fight of his life at 70plus years of age?
he wouldn't have gone into that school if that degenerate mothafucka (school shooter) stole his hairpiece
Make fun of his hair piece but one thing for sure we do know who the cowards are starting with that Sheriff Isreal and his fearless deputies. Implementing liberal leftist policies like not reporting those 45 warning calls they had about the shooter. Not arresting people so that their crime stats. would look good for the purpose of getting grants. So if that denerate mothafucka Sheriff had done his job, Trump would not have to worry about his hair piece.
The sherrifs and all his deputies probably voted for trump
The real problem is a goddamn 18 yr old being able to buy an ar-15
Assault rifles shouldn't be sold to anybody under 25, recent event show that they probably shouldn't be sold at all
Didn't I say in my last statement I brought it up because the media makes fun of Trump so this is why I put the link so that I can have fun too.
You said it your self that I was using sarcasm and now you say that I idol worship. It can only be one or the other. I was even honest with you in saying it was trivial. I only worship my god no one else. Unfortunately, I was willing to meet you half way but you seem to be upset. I do not have to check on Trump's progress. I know what he did. I do not have my blinders on unlike some democrats that will be receiving more money on their paychecks, benefits,jobs,bonuses and still spit on Trump afterwards.
You can be sarcastic and idol-worship, the two are not mutually exclusive. Also, I'm not upset at all, not sure how you picked up that vibe. I even began with an "lol" to imply a light tone but I guess that wasn't enough.
If you don't need facts to inform you on Trump's progress, great. I'll go on and keep using them to inform myself. Anyway, I wish you and yours prosperity and health regardless of who our Commander in Chief is. Take care.
The sheriff is 100% democrat . It has been reported in the media. I am not sure for the deputies although it was reported this particular sheriff wanted deputies that believed in his liberal policy. But if true or not, this will all come out when this situation is investigated.
I would be willing to try under 25 but regretfully we will still be having this discuss in the future. Did you notice that both parties never come up with solutions when it comes to guns and immigration. When one party comes up with a solution the other will knock it down for political reasons.
I am for armed guards at schools but others want gun free schools. I know one thing, if I were a teacher and someone would be shooting at me, I wouldn't say no to having a gun but I can only speak for myself.
Tell me what gun free place had an attack where no one was killed? Let’s say your kids were in the school would you still want it to be gun free. So by the time the police come your kids are dead.
Oak said has “Every state has tools to detain mentally ill people who pose a threat to the public.â€
I believe in most states you can hold someone for 24hours then you have to let them go. No matter what they say if they have not done anything before that. Then they go and shoot up a school.
The only story that I think was real about trump. Yeas ago his limo broke down. He needed a tire change a Good Samaritan help his driver fix it. Trump wanted to give the guy something for his help. He told him he had no cash and ask the guy to give him his address. I guess he asked the guy if he owned the house.
Later the Good Samaritan found out that trump paid off his mortgage.
Nothing brave about the story. But it was a nice thing to do that trump did not have to do.
I guess Barach would have done the same or Hillary.
Do you know what’s going on right now through the country fucking fa***t queers are making calls through the country threating schools through out the US. So much so like schools are being locked down like Wagner in Staten Island here in NYC. They are making parents of students now to push politicians to ban guns.
I just called my so called Senator chunky Schumer spokes person said they know nothing about it. Then she said she did but it was a fake call. So now all of a sudden he knows about it. I said to her how do you know it was a fake call she wanted to hang up. It a plan evidently probably calls like that one are being made through the country.
Broward county was following liberal policies implemented by the previous administration.
You said yourself police purposely don't arrest people, in order to keep crime rates down, so that they can earn grants.
Now you're saying the libs have tied their hands and armed them with water guns, or something.
Which is it?
All 50 states have tools for officers to use immediate judgement to decide whether to detain a mentally ill person who poses a threat to society. Any cop that just walks away from an unstable person acting in a threatening manner has failed to do their job. Period.
Armed teacher already flips out, barricades himself in classroom, and fires his gun.
The chaos is just beginning.
Trump's America.
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An armed teacher who fired his weapon at a Georgia high school was in custody Wednesday afternoon.
No students at Dalton High School were hurt directly in the incident or remained in danger after they were evacuated as the crisis unfolded, Dalton police tweeted.
The teacher — identified as Randall Davidson, 53 — initially barricaded himself in an empty classroom at about 11:30 a.m. ET as confused students tried to get in, Dalton police spokesman Bruce Frazier said at a news conference. There were then reports that a gun was fired. Davidson, a social studies teacher, surrendered after 30 to 45 minutes, police said.
It's easy for you to make jokes about, Foots, because you're not trapped in one of these classrooms, forced to be a sitting duck for the next mass shooter...student or teacher.
It's easy for you to make jokes about, Foots, because you're not trapped in one of these classrooms, forced to be a sitting duck for the next mass shooter...student or teacher.
So you put a student in the same light as one teacher who has not killed anyone.
Interesting point your not able to make.
Oh some people scare easier then others even as kids.
The chaos has been building. This has nothing to do with politics, it's about a pussified USA where people have too many choices, too much time worrying about other people, and a bunch of kids being born that shouldn't be born.
My son went crazy yesterday we he went on Facebook and they talked about Wagner HS in Staten Island. His step daughter goes to school there. The school went to lock down yesterday because one teacher said she heard about a gun being in the school.
So he is driving like a maniac to get to the school to get her.
Turns out it was a bullshit lock down because of a teacher not a real situation. I called Senator Schumer office. The girl said she did not known about it first. Than I told her how I knew about it she changed her tune then said she knew about it, but it was a false alarm. Then I asked her how do you know it was a false alarm. Then I asked was the teacher arrested for starting this.Then she wanted to get off the phone with me. That is how I knew she and our senator were full of shit that it was a set up that he knew about.
That's not cool. I was watching a victim's dad speak and he said he couldn't remember if he told his kid goodbye and I love you that morning. It made me Fucking think. If I'm at work no matter how late I get stuck staying I call my wife at 07:30 to say the same thing to the boys before they go to school. It shouldn't have to be like this. I'm glad your son's family is safe. If they want to do this arming the teacher shit, they need to do an in depth background check. Imagine you have some fruit loop teacher who decides to kill the whole class? The world's Fucked. When things get to this point the nation needs to put aside their differences and come together. 17 dead kids and the parties are finally demonstrating bipartisanship.
Cook county it started with obama my ass. Remember his shovel ready jobs none. The electric car none. We can go on and on.
Everything obama tried to do was half ass. All he did was make regulation to keep people from building and starting business or growing their business. No business no new jobs.
Never promotited any thing to get people to build. And start businesses.
All he did was get people not to start business here.
Maybe to start the marajana business here. I just both diabetes testers got them very cheap from meds r us.
You know what there real business is 1000 different kinds of drugs are us. Based of course in California. They are growing the drug business. I just hope they don’t go in the heroin business.if they do and they will it will be with Mexican heroin which is the best. Now you know why they don’t want the wall.
Cook county it started with obama my ass. Remember his shovel ready jobs none. The electric car none. We can go on and on.
Everything obama tried to do was half ass. All he did was make regulation to keep people from building and starting business or growing their business. No business no new jobs.
Never promotited any thing to get people to build. And start businesses.
america was in a recession when obama took over as president
america was not in a recession when he left office, in part because somehow more americans were working
trump hasn't been in office long enough for the economy to change, it doesn't take one year for unemployment to decrease
you would believe trump if he told you that hes the reason the sky is blue
Cook county it started with obama my ass. Remember his shovel ready jobs none. The electric car none. We can go on and on.
Everything obama tried to do was half ass. All he did was make regulation to keep people from building and starting business or growing their business. No business no new jobs.
Never promotited any thing to get people to build. And start businesses.
america was in a recession when obama took over as president
america was not in a recession when he left office, in part because somehow more americans were working
trump hasn't been in office long enough for the economy to change, it doesn't take one year for unemployment to decrease
you would believe trump if he told you that hes the reason the sky is blue
What was the black unemployment rate when obama left office. He did a great job with them didn’t he?
GREAT AGAIN: Jobless Claims PLUMMET to Lowest Levels in Nearly 50 YEARS
you do realize that trend started with the obama administration right?
jobs just dont mysteriously appear in a year and those jobs that appeared don't get filled in a year
trump is sick mindedly obsessed with obama but damn sure is taking credit for his work
Dream on.
You probably believe in groundhog day
If unemployment didnt decrease by 10% than trump aint the sole reason for it
Economies dont fix themselves in a year
The Obama administration/democrats have been known to lie from time to time like Benghazi & video, fast and furious, Clinton emails , uranium deal,Iran deal, election polls, unemployment numbers and other. Why should I believe anything they say. I rather believe in a groundhog at least it will not lie to me and take me for a fool.
Cook county it started with obama my ass. Remember his shovel ready jobs none. The electric car none. We can go on and on.
Everything obama tried to do was half ass. All he did was make regulation to keep people from building and starting business or growing their business. No business no new jobs.
Never promotited any thing to get people to build. And start businesses.
america was in a recession when obama took over as president
america was not in a recession when he left office, in part because somehow more americans were working
trump hasn't been in office long enough for the economy to change, it doesn't take one year for unemployment to decrease
you would believe trump if he told you that hes the reason the sky is blue
What was the black unemployment rate when obama left office. He did a great job with them didn’t he?
Under Obama people had given up looking for a job because there was nothing out there therefore these people did not show in the stat. Welfare & food stamp recipients shot up as well. How can he create jobs when EPA would shut development because of an endangered frog or a water pot hole on your land. He also incurred the biggest debt increase than all the past presidents combined.
"Mr. Trump seems not to understand that steel-using industries in the U.S. employ some 6.5 million Americans, while steel makers employ about 140,000."
BTW- For all the talk about Chinese dumping, they aren't even in the top 10 nations that we purchase steel from, they're #11. And Bush tried this in 2002, it cost the US 200,000 jobs.
Here is an article about Gruber, Obama's guru on affordable healthcare/Obama care. Calling Obama supporters stupid. There is also audio/video footage out there about Gruber calling democrats stupid.
Obama who stands by Gruber thinks democrats are stupid and most democrats fell in love with him.
Cook county it started with obama my ass. Remember his shovel ready jobs none. The electric car none. We can go on and on.
Everything obama tried to do was half ass. All he did was make regulation to keep people from building and starting business or growing their business. No business no new jobs.
Never promotited any thing to get people to build. And start businesses.
america was in a recession when obama took over as president
america was not in a recession when he left office, in part because somehow more americans were working
trump hasn't been in office long enough for the economy to change, it doesn't take one year for unemployment to decrease
you would believe trump if he told you that hes the reason the sky is blue
THIS.
The country was far better when Obama left office than it was when he was sworn in, which was in the middle of a deep recession, thanks to the Bush administration.
The last two Republican presidents left a worse economy than what they inherited, and I don't see Trump having any ideas that would reverse the trend. Deregulation, trade policies written by corporations, tax cuts to the wealthy....same recipe for disaster that Republican presidents always destroy the economy with.
Sorry cook, but you have been misinformed. Anyways, just like the other left wing dumb dumb, I must ask: what would Hilary our Bernie be doing different right now that would make things so much better? Myself along with others I meet on a day to day basis would basis would argue your point about lower middle class. Even if it 37's a lower middle class thing, what does your class have to do with this?
If I understand black people who hate white people, I guess that would make me a racist, or a racist apologist, or something.
Am I a white supremacist? No.
White supremacy is evil. It's the religion of the most powerful terrorist group in America today, right wing extremists. It was the motivating factor for Nikolas Cruz.
I don’t know any white supremist and I would bet neither do you.
Never met one I guess I led a sheltered life unlike you.
Right wingers are not even extremists. The left extremists marxists religion hating degenerate homosexuals. Just decided to demonize those that believe in the constitution as extremists.
BTW, Trump just congratulated China's dictator on his takeover. Says he wants to do the same here. I knew right wingers were fascists all along, but now its in plain sight.
Idiot stupid kids some people believe what they hear on the news, but don’t actually watch the person actually talk them selves. I guess because they have to wait until they get home from school.
What a school they must have gone to.
Since some posters here are obviously school kids. Can any of you do simple math using common core?
That is what trump should have done to Hillary in one of the debates. Give her a simple math question and ask her to solve it using common core techniques:)
No way in hell she could have solved it. Or ask her when was the last time she drove a car. I know trump still drives even though most of the time he has a driver.
I don’t know any white supremist and I would bet neither do you.
Never met one I guess I led a sheltered life unlike you.
Right wingers are not even extremists. The left extremists marxists religion hating degenerate homosexuals. Just decided to demonize those that believe in the constitution as extremists.
A constitution that can be amended if shit aint working right
Assault rifles shouldn't be sold to anybody, especially not teenagers that cant legally drink
but they can legally serve in our armed forces and carry automatic weapons and use the other stuff.
When I was a kid there was a crazy kid shooting people from a roof. As far as I knew no one called the cops a bunch of guys went after him on the roof. Got him and threw him off the roof. They had some kind of weapons guns and knives
but they can legally serve in our armed forces and carry automatic weapons and use the other stuff.
When I was a kid there was a crazy kid shooting people from a roof. As far as I knew no one called the cops a bunch of guys went after him on the roof. Got him and threw him off the roof. They had some kind of weapons guns and knives
How many white people have to die before white people decide that assault rifles have no place in the private sector
Ar-15s are murder weapons, why the fuck do average citizens need murder weapons
18yr olds are only allowed to join the army to be cannon fodder
Sadly, he understands that they already have his emails. I don't know why he's willing to go to jail over this. Although, maybe he wants to be arrested and placed in protective custody.
Lou Dobbs. What happened to him? I remember in the mid '00s he seemed reasonable. The he jumped on the xenophobia train and rode it right to FoxNews. Ratings must have been bad. Piers Morgan has gone off the deep end too, hasn't he?
Retarded are the people who voted for trump and dont fit into the tax bracket he cares about
He got elected by a lower middle class and poor people because he spewed racist jargon
Obama and his wife attended the Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago for several years listening to reverend Wright racist remarks he made about Jews and Italians. He also posed for pictures with racist Luis Farakan. Several congressmen and women attended meetings with Farakan. You even had a sitting senator Byrd that was a member of the KKK. It was the democrats that supported slavery. They also supported the Muslim brotherhood that promote hatred for gays and women Before you call someone a racist or a retard look into your own backyard or mirror.
Democrats used to be the party of white supremacists. Republicans are today.
Bullshit ,if there are any racists now it is the Democratic party. They are the ones that attend meetings with Farakan. Obama family attending the racist reverend Wright church sermons, the DNC caught by wikileaks making racist remarks. It is your party that supported the Muslim Brotherhood. Your party that praised senator Byrd, member of the KKK.
Most of what I pointed here happened during Obama administration.
Democrats used to be the party of white supremacists. Republicans are today.
Bullshit ,if there are any racists now it is the Democratic party. They are the ones that attend meetings with Farakan. Obama family attending the racist reverend Wright church sermons, the DNC caught by wikileaks making racist remarks. It is your party that supported the Muslim Brotherhood. Your party that praised senator Byrd, member of the KKK.
Most of what I pointed here happened during Obama administration.
You do realize that democrat, Republican, independent, or dont vote all know you're lying about the gop not being racist
Republican voters associate racism with the Republican party, thats why alot of them vote repub
Democrats used to be the party of white supremacists. Republicans are today.
Bullshit ,if there are any racists now it is the Democratic party. They are the ones that attend meetings with Farakan. Obama family attending the racist reverend Wright church sermons, the DNC caught by wikileaks making racist remarks. It is your party that supported the Muslim Brotherhood. Your party that praised senator Byrd, member of the KKK.
Most of what I pointed here happened during Obama administration.
You do realize that democrat, Republican, independent, or dont vote all know you're lying about the gop not being racist
Republican voters associate racism with the Republican party, thats why alot of them vote repub
The truth hurts, do you need a safe space. It's hard to digest that leaders of your party are racists.
Democrats used to be the party of white supremacists. Republicans are today.
Bullshit ,if there are any racists now it is the Democratic party. They are the ones that attend meetings with Farakan. Obama family attending the racist reverend Wright church sermons, the DNC caught by wikileaks making racist remarks. It is your party that supported the Muslim Brotherhood. Your party that praised senator Byrd, member of the KKK.
Most of what I pointed here happened during Obama administration.
You do realize that democrat, Republican, independent, or dont vote all know you're lying about the gop not being racist
Republican voters associate racism with the Republican party, thats why alot of them vote repub
You accuse me of words I did not say in your statement and you have the balls to accuse me of lying. Good try !
White supremacists have gone Republican since the 1960s. There isn't much about the Democratic party today that's appealing to white supremacists. The Republican party, meanwhile, ran an openly racist candidate for president in 2016. Steve Bannon, a noted white supremacist, played a key role in Trump's campaign, and was appointed to his cabinet.
You wanna find a racist, go talk to a group of black guys. You will find them hanging out on a corner. The best time to find them hanging out is when we are all working.
John Bolton. Oh geez. I thought he was dead. I remember George W. Bush appointing him in those years where he didn't care anymore. That's typically when Bolton shows up. When the ship is sinking. His disgusting mustache is the last thing seen on the deck.
Hillary is a retired grandmother living in Westchester and not germane to the conversation of the possible appointment of Bolton by the current administration and the ramifications of such an appointment.
U sound like a broken record, evrything u say is a stereotype that has been repeated ten million times over
@ciment
You're the pot calling the kettle black
@footreads
The world thinks america is a joke with trump as president, we might all need to duck missles oneday
The US woud never need to duck missiles with Trump as president, you are referring to Obama who kept drawing fake red lines in the sand that everyone and their mother laughed at.
Hillary is a retired grandmother living in Westchester and not germane to the conversation of the possible appointment of Bolton by the current administration and the ramifications of such an appointment.
Helen your trying hard to forget about Hillary now no wonder. Got News for you a special prosecutor will be announced soon to look into her entire time as Secretary of State and presidential campaign. And the Clinton foundation.
Pence was supposed to come out here to Cali to make the big announcement about the lawsuit, and Trump stole his thunder and tweeted it last night. Pence flew all the way out here for nothing. lol. This was supposed to be Pence's big moment. Loyalty goes one way in the Trump mob.
Practically everyone I know with money and power are not faithful to their wives. Plenty of women will give up their pussy to be near powerful men. In every field my problem with them is their weak willed all of them in that regard. What if they give their wives a sexually transmitted disease. Or they kiss their kid and he gets herpes. Then what?
Thing about the left that I hate is they love to go after a politicians family. I think people who do that are low life dogs.
Oh yeah, and the lawsuit's on. Stormy Daniels is suing the president of the United States A sitting president is being sued over an issue involving an extramarital affair, with a porn star.
U sound like a broken record, evrything u say is a stereotype that has been repeated ten million times over
@ciment
You're the pot calling the kettle black
@footreads
The world thinks america is a joke with trump as president, we might all need to duck missles oneday
The US woud never need to duck missiles with Trump as president, you are referring to Obama who kept drawing fake red lines in the sand that everyone and their mother laughed at.
North korea didnt talk about bombing us for 8 years when obama was president
They started talking about killing us as soon as trump got in office
Other countries got along with obama, they dont respect trump, hes a fucking joke
I think we know some people here who'd like to see it. It is to Trump supporters what the pyramids are to Egyptians. They pray to it. Their entire lives have built up to the day when they're face to face with it. Roy Moore fought to have it displayed in his courtroom.
U sound like a broken record, evrything u say is a stereotype that has been repeated ten million times over
@ciment
You're the pot calling the kettle black
@footreads
The world thinks america is a joke with trump as president, we might all need to duck missles oneday
The US woud never need to duck missiles with Trump as president, you are referring to Obama who kept drawing fake red lines in the sand that everyone and their mother laughed at.
North korea didnt talk about bombing us for 8 years when obama was president
They started talking about killing us as soon as trump got in office
Other countries got along with obama, they dont respect trump, hes a fucking joke
@ Cookcounty
After Obama gave Iran the money, they still chanted death to america. So your argument does not hold water. Furthermore why would North Korea still pursue their path to nuclear weapons if rocket man or his dad got along so well with Obama for 8 years ? During Obama's presidency, North Korea were not talking about bombing because they were too busy trying to built the bomb. Bill Clinton back then told everybody that they had settled the nuclear situation, what happened to the liberal appeasement way to solving the North Korea situation ? All democrats know how to do is give them more money and kick the can further down the road and the problem will go away.
Unless you believe in fantasy land,your statement is a very laughable.
Oh yeah, and the lawsuit's on. Stormy Daniels is suing the president of the United States A sitting president is being sued over an issue involving an extramarital affair, with a porn star.
You know the left paid her to sue him. Like I said they like to go after people family members. Is she suing Baron as well? She would have fucked him if the money was right.
Polanski is a fucking pig, but it doesn't detract from Moore. I will never understand whataboutism. As far as im concerned anyone that supports either of them is reprehensible but at least no one was trying to put Polanski into our government in a position to write laws.
Polanski is a fucking pig, but it doesn't detract from Moore. I will never understand whataboutism. As far as im concerned anyone that supports either of them is reprehensible but at least no one was trying to put Polanski into our government in a position to write laws.
I find it reprehensible for both cases. It does not matter if your a politician or not.
Polanski is a fucking pig, but it doesn't detract from Moore. I will never understand whataboutism. As far as im concerned anyone that supports either of them is reprehensible but at least no one was trying to put Polanski into our government in a position to write laws.
Same here. But it is so common today, especially with the excessive identity politics. Over the past couple years it's like people have lost any ability to reason with one another and only like to point fingers.
Yes, there are scumbags on both sides.. But let's be real, what the fuck has Roman Polanski got to do with Roy Moore? Talk about a reach. The worst thing is, "whataboutisms" don't push any conversation further, they only muddle them and stray from the original points.
Polanski is a 1970's film director hiding in France.
Roy Moore ran for the senate last year, and was endorsed by a Republican president.
According to you people you are guilty until proven innocent.
Roy didn't run, if he is proven guilty in a court of law then lock him up for good and throw out the key but when it was known that Lisa Bloom wanted to pay the alledged victim and falsified evidence that is a different story, he deserves his day in court.
U sound like a broken record, evrything u say is a stereotype that has been repeated ten million times over
@ciment
You're the pot calling the kettle black
@footreads
The world thinks america is a joke with trump as president, we might all need to duck missles oneday
The US woud never need to duck missiles with Trump as president, you are referring to Obama who kept drawing fake red lines in the sand that everyone and their mother laughed at.
North korea didnt talk about bombing us for 8 years when obama was president
They started talking about killing us as soon as trump got in office
Other countries got along with obama, they dont respect trump, hes a fucking joke
@ Cookcounty
After Obama gave Iran the money, they still chanted death to america. So your argument does not hold water. Furthermore why would North Korea still pursue their path to nuclear weapons if rocket man or his dad got along so well with Obama for 8 years ? During Obama's presidency, North Korea were not talking about bombing because they were too busy trying to built the bomb. Bill Clinton back then told everybody that they had settled the nuclear situation, what happened to the liberal appeasement way to solving the North Korea situation ? All democrats know how to do is give them more money and kick the can further down the road and the problem will go away.
Unless you believe in fantasy land,your statement is a very laughable.
No countries govt were talking about killing america under obama
Obama had a better relationship with other countries than trump....thee end
Cook maybe we will all get lucky and North Korea will nuke Chicago or California then we will nuke Korea and hopefully Iran. This is for oak and Israel that will make oak very happy the Jew hater.
Polanski is a 1970's film director hiding in France.
Roy Moore ran for the senate last year, and was endorsed by a Republican president.
According to you people are guilty until proven innocent.
Roy didn't run, if he is proven guilty in a court of law then lock him up for good and throw out the key but when it was known that Lisa Bloom wanted to pay the alledged victim and falsified evidence that is a different story, he deserves his day in court.
You brought up Polanski to defend Moore. lol. Polanski is a public figure out of the 1970s. lol. Moore just ran for senate. And, Trump endorsed him, despite several allegations of being a perv. Birds of a feather.
As Moore is a politician a better whataboutism would have been Dennis Hastert, Buz Lukens, Mark Foley, or Anthony Weiner.
It would still be a weak argument, along the lines of 'Yes, I killed people but look at Jeffrey Dahmer', but at least it would be examples from the same wheelhouse.
Rollinbones is correct about it doing nothing to further the conversation. It's just an unproductive old Soviet tactic that is used when someone doesn’t want to / can’t add anything meaningful to the discussion to either prove their own point or discredit the opposing point.
Polanski is a 1970's film director hiding in France.
Roy Moore ran for the senate last year, and was endorsed by a Republican president.
According to you people are guilty until proven innocent.
Roy didn't run, if he is proven guilty in a court of law then lock him up for good and throw out the key but when it was known that Lisa Bloom wanted to pay the alledged victim and falsified evidence that is a different story, he deserves his day in court.
You brought up Polanski to defend Moore. lol. Polanski is a public figure out of the 1970s. lol. Moore just ran for senate. And, Trump endorsed him, despite several allegations of being a perv. Birds of a feather.
According to your logic and communist ideology let's put Mark Cuban in jail, why go to court. Lunacy !
Furthermore, the republican party was going to oust him from the party once elected so that they can keep the seat republican. It was a political strategy and not support for his actions.
Climent, polls don't mean anything. Ask Oaks psychiatrist. Because according to the bullshit news that the left listens to Hilary was supposed to win by a landslide. That's why she hardly campaigned. Yet, her miniscule fan base thought she was the perfect person to run this country. Suckers!
Climent, polls don't mean anything. Ask Oaks psychiatrist. Because according to the bullshit news that the left listens to Hilary was supposed to win by a landslide. That's why she hardly campaigned. Yet, her miniscule fan base thought she was the perfect person to run this country. Suckers!
I pity the psychiatrist.
The polls were meant to tease our mutual friend kind of nice from time to time to give him a taste of his own medecine.
Climent, I was just busting balls. I had to say that to make my point. Thinking back to the election, that old hag had the audacity to talk shit about American citizens with that deplorable comment. Trump has never stooped that low. He may talk shit about the fake news assholes and other politicians. But when it comes to name calling and acting like spoiled children the democratic leadership stand alone.
Polanski is a 1970's film director hiding in France.
Roy Moore ran for the senate last year, and was endorsed by a Republican president.
According to you people are guilty until proven innocent.
Roy didn't run, if he is proven guilty in a court of law then lock him up for good and throw out the key but when it was known that Lisa Bloom wanted to pay the alledged victim and falsified evidence that is a different story, he deserves his day in court.
You brought up Polanski to defend Moore. lol. Polanski is a public figure out of the 1970s. lol. Moore just ran for senate. And, Trump endorsed him, despite several allegations of being a perv. Birds of a feather.
Moore is not a pervert. The same people acting angry about him allegedly dating 18 year olds and perhaps 17 year olds when he was 32 are the same ones who advocate for Mexican immigration. The tie in is that in Mexico the age of consent for a girl is 12. In that nation a 13 year old can marry or just have sex with a man in his 30's and it's fine and legal. Libs do not criticize Mexico or bring it up, instead they want more of them to come here and "Enrich us with their culture." Since their culture has no issue with 12 years olds becoming pregnant and having multiple children by age 18, in some cases with men way older than them, Moore should be hailed as a monk. I have not seen anyone crying out about Mexico and other nations with similar ways being perverts.
[quote=OakAsFan]Polanski is a 1970's film director hiding in France.
Roy Moore ran for the senate last year, and was endorsed by a Republican president.
According to you people are guilty until proven innocent.
Roy didn't run, if he is proven guilty in a court of law then lock him up for good and throw out the key but when it was known that Lisa Bloom wanted to pay the alledged victim and falsified evidence that is a different story, he deserves his day in court.
You brought up Polanski to defend Moore. lol. Polanski is a public figure out of the 1970s. lol. Moore just ran for senate. And, Trump endorsed him, despite several allegations of being a perv. Birds of a feather.
Moore is not a pervert. The same people acting angry about him allegedly dating 18 year olds and perhaps 17 year olds when he was 32 are the same ones who advocate for Mexican immigration. The tie in is that in Mexico the age of consent for a girl is 12. In that nation a 13 year old can marry or just have sex with a man in his 30's and it's fine and legal. Libs do not criticize Mexico or bring it up, instead they want more of them to come here and "Enrich us with their culture." Since their culture has no issue with 12 years olds becoming pregnant and having multiple children by age 18, in some cases with men way older than them, Moore should be hailed as a monk. I have not seen anyone crying out about Mexico and other nations with similar ways being perverts.
Moore is a pervert. One of his accusers was 14, another 16. I guess that's ok with you, but it's certainly not ok with me. I don't know anyone that would be ok with that. I'd cut a man's balls off if he tried it with my kid.
Mexico's age of consent laws are disgraceful, but they're also are a bit more complicated than you're implying. Each state has it's own age of consent, and state law overrides federal law. It's also a third world hellhole. But here we are with more whataboutism. Can you provide any sources that pro immigration people are ok with the Mexican age of consent or child rape? An article link or something? A public statement by a pro immigration group?
Climent, I was just busting balls. I had to say that to make my point. Thinking back to the election, that old hag had the audacity to talk shit about American citizens with that deplorable comment. Trump has never stooped that low. He may talk shit about the fake news assholes and other politicians. But when it comes to name calling and acting like spoiled children the democratic leadership stand alone.
He called nfl players exercising their 1st amendment constitutional right "sons of bitches"
He calls every illegal immigrant criminals and rapist
He calls white supremacist that killed a woman and yelled racial slurs fine people
I've heard one of the pundits say that Trump speaks to only one person. The rural, white, racist American. Every word that comes out of his mouth is spoken directly to this one single person.
Was there a child born? Did she get pregnant and have it terminated? Did he have a child with someone else and tell Daniels about it?
If there was an abortion involved, I can’t wait to watch the back flipping evangelicals turn themselves into Cirque de Soleil contortionists [/quote
Originally Posted by cookcounty
[quote=blueracing347]Climent, I was just busting balls. I had to say that to make my point. Thinking back to the election, that old hag had the audacity to talk shit about American citizens with that deplorable comment. Trump has never stooped that low. He may talk shit about the fake news assholes and other politicians. But when it comes to name calling and acting like spoiled children the democratic leadership stand alone.
He called nfl players exercising their 1st amendment constitutional right "sons of bitches"
He calls every illegal immigrant criminals and rapist
He calls white supremacist that killed a woman and yelled racial slurs fine people
Any informed person would know that you do not have first amendment rights at a place of work. The NFL has every legal right to fire them if they want. And they are sons of bitches for disrespecting the flag.
He did not call every illegal immigrant criminals and rapist. In his statement he did say some are good people.
He never called white supremacist fine people. He condemned the white supremacist many times. The fine people comment referred to other innocent people that were there that were not part of the white supremacist crowd.
Polanski is a 1970's film director hiding in France.
Roy Moore ran for the senate last year, and was endorsed by a Republican president.
According to you people are guilty until proven innocent.
Roy didn't run, if he is proven guilty in a court of law then lock him up for good and throw out the key but when it was known that Lisa Bloom wanted to pay the alledged victim and falsified evidence that is a different story, he deserves his day in court.
You brought up Polanski to defend Moore. lol. Polanski is a public figure out of the 1970s. lol. Moore just ran for senate. And, Trump endorsed him, despite several allegations of being a perv. Birds of a feather.
Moore is not a pervert. The same people acting angry about him allegedly dating 18 year olds and perhaps 17 year olds when he was 32 are the same ones who advocate for Mexican immigration. The tie in is that in Mexico the age of consent for a girl is 12. In that nation a 13 year old can marry or just have sex with a man in his 30's and it's fine and legal. Libs do not criticize Mexico or bring it up, instead they want more of them to come here and "Enrich us with their culture." Since their culture has no issue with 12 years olds becoming pregnant and having multiple children by age 18, in some cases with men way older than them, Moore should be hailed as a monk. I have not seen anyone crying out about Mexico and other nations with similar ways being perverts.
Many liberal democrats have no morals, they defended that pervert Bill Clinton who also used to go on sex trips with his pedophile friend Jeffrey Edward Epstein a registered sex offender in the United States. Roman Polanski another pedophile is also their idol.
I've heard one of the pundits say that Trump speaks to only one person. The rural, white, racist American. Every word that comes out of his mouth is spoken directly to this one single person.
Look again in your own backyard, there seems to be many racists democrats representing you in congress that are supporters of the racist Farrakhan.
Was there a child born? Did she get pregnant and have it terminated? Did he have a child with someone else and tell Daniels about it?
If there was an abortion involved, I can’t wait to watch the back flipping evangelicals turn themselves into Cirque de Soleil contortionists [/quote
Originally Posted by cookcounty
[quote=blueracing347]Climent, I was just busting balls. I had to say that to make my point. Thinking back to the election, that old hag had the audacity to talk shit about American citizens with that deplorable comment. Trump has never stooped that low. He may talk shit about the fake news assholes and other politicians. But when it comes to name calling and acting like spoiled children the democratic leadership stand alone.
He called nfl players exercising their 1st amendment constitutional right "sons of bitches"
He calls every illegal immigrant criminals and rapist
He calls white supremacist that killed a woman and yelled racial slurs fine people
Any informed person would know that you do not have first amendment rights at a place of work. The NFL has every legal right to fire them if they want. And they are sons of bitches for disrespecting the flag.
He did not call every illegal immigrant criminals and rapist. In his statement he did say some are good people.
He never called white supremacist fine people. He condemned the white supremacist many times. The fine people comment referred to other innocent people that were there that were not part of the white supremacist crowd.
Your TV must be stuck on the fake news channel.
Originally Posted by Ciment
Originally Posted by helenwheels
Interesting part of the Stormy Daniels NDA was a point where she could not discuss "paternity information" with anyone.
Was there a child born? Did she get pregnant and have it terminated? Did he have a child with someone else and tell Daniels about it?
If there was an abortion involved, I can’t wait to watch the back flipping evangelicals turn themselves into Cirque de Soleil contortionists [/quote
Originally Posted by cookcounty
[quote=blueracing347]Climent, I was just busting balls. I had to say that to make my point. Thinking back to the election, that old hag had the audacity to talk shit about American citizens with that deplorable comment. Trump has never stooped that low. He may talk shit about the fake news assholes and other politicians. But when it comes to name calling and acting like spoiled children the democratic leadership stand alone.
He called nfl players exercising their 1st amendment constitutional right "sons of bitches"
He calls every illegal immigrant criminals and rapist
He calls white supremacist that killed a woman and yelled racial slurs fine people
Any informed person would know that you do not have first amendment rights at a place of work. The NFL has every legal right to fire them if they want. And they are sons of bitches for disrespecting the flag.
He did not call every illegal immigrant criminals and rapist. In his statement he did say some are good people.
He never called white supremacist fine people. He condemned the white supremacist many times. The fine people comment referred to other innocent people that were there that were not part of the white supremacist crowd.
Your TV must be stuck on the fake news channel.
Trump called nfl players sons of bitches, he didnt call the players bitches, he called their mothers bitches.....NO CLASS AT ALL
he said there were fine people on both sides in Charlottesville, meaning non white supremacist and white supremacist....another low class statement
Jeffrey Epstein? This guy? I'm glad we all agree that he should be given a wide berth by decent people
"I've known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy,'' Trump booms from a speakerphone. "He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it -- Jeffrey enjoys his social life." http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/people/n_7912/
Some of the businessmen who dine with him at his home—they include newspaper publisher Mort Zuckerman, banker Louis Ranieri, Revlon chairman Ronald Perelman, real-estate tycoon Leon Black, former Microsoft executive Nathan Myhrvold, Tom Pritzker (of Hyatt Hotels), and real-estate personality Donald Trump https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2003/03/jeffrey-epstein-200303
In 2000, Corcoran was a guest on Trump’s 727 that weekend, and he wasn’t the only one. The article published in Maximum Golf magazine notes Trump had to wait at the marine terminal for now-disgraced pedophile billionaire Jeffrey Epstein and his society gal-pal Ghislaine Maxwell—who have since been accused by dozens of women of running what amounted to a “sex slave†ring. Corcoran, who didn’t know the pair at the time, remembers Trump standing in the doorway of the plane yelling to them, “You broke the cardinal rule, Jeffrey! Never be late for someone else’s plane!†https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-bragged-nothing-in-the-world-like-first-rate-psy
Yes, I agree those son's of bitches players have no class at all ! Where is the CLASS for soldiers that died for their country.
If you want class from a president you must be willing to respect the presidency office. The way liberal democrats treated Trump and his family from the very start was a disgrace. Any honorable man will defend his family if faced in a similar situation.
These leftist democrats are childish and have been on a meltdown ever since Trump became president. The leftist idiots, along with the mainstream media have been trying to overthrow the election results from day one. Actually, I find Trump hasn't gone far enough to stick it to Hillary and her resistance supporters.
You DARE TALK ABOUT CLASS when the left goes after his 11 year old son. Show decapitated head of Trump and other.
Yes, I agree those son's of bitches players have no class at all ! Where is the CLASS for soldiers that died for their country.
If you want class from a president you must be willing to respect the presidency office. The way liberal democrats treated Trump and his family from the very start was a disgrace. Any honorable man will defend his family if faced in a similar situation.
These leftist democrats are childish and have been on a meltdown ever since Trump became president. The leftist idiots, along with the mainstream media have been trying to overthrow the election results from day one. Actually, I find Trump hasn't gone far enough to stick it to Hillary and her resistance supporters.
You DARE TALK ABOUT CLASS when the left goes after his 11 year old son. Show decapitated head of Trump and other.
Make America Great Again
The Rebulicans didn't go after Obama until after his first year, when he kept snubbing them a lot more than he should have. Obama said one thing then changed his mind and and went full liberal, with no bi-partisanship. Only later in his Presidency did he try. He practically set the tone for his Presidency after that meeting, but he did great on the economy. I still didn't vote for him the second time around as he made me mad at some of his policies.
Trump and North Korea reminds me of Nixon and China lol
People mistakenly bought the Obama lie that he would work with both sides and bring people together.
Then when Republicans saw he lied. They stopped trying to work with the him.
On the other hand Trump has been trying to work with both sides. Democrats decided to obstruct everything he tried to do. That includes a lot of Republicans.
He is the closest President we have had to be elected by a third party of voters. So of course he is hated.
The left wing decided to go after him and his family through his infidelity. Like they never fucked around. No one is beyond I remember the night trump won his youngest son was up all night and I am sure was bored with the whole business he was only 11 or 12. Because he looked tired they said he looked like he had autism. Those fucking animals.
There is a coffee shop in Oakland that won’t serve a police officer coffee. I think if they refuse them free donuts they would never go in any way. Cops love free stuff don’t give it to them. They won’t go in, but you might get your windows broke.
That happen to my friends Italian deli johnnies super hero’s. Cops broke his store window of course could not prove it. There was a guy from the neighborhood I though he was a good guy in his way. He had an adult daughter. He spend more then half of his life in prison. Like that movie he was definately institutionalized.
He was an important guy in prison out on the street he was nothing.
We knew the cop who broke the window it cost 600 to fix a lot of money in the early 60s.. Money that Johnny did not have to fix. Remember tenement rent for a month was 30 dollars a month. His new wife had to work in the store to help out.
So we got to talking with the guy. You could tell he was going to do something to go back to prison. But he wanted to leave his daughter some money before he went back.
So he was told who the cop was and what he looked like. So we paid him money to jack that cop up. He did a number on him and went back to prison. No more problems with cops after that.
Yes, I agree those son's of bitches players have no class at all ! Where is the CLASS for soldiers that died for their country.
If you want class from a president you must be willing to respect the presidency office. The way liberal democrats treated Trump and his family from the very start was a disgrace. Any honorable man will defend his family if faced in a similar situation.
These leftist democrats are childish and have been on a meltdown ever since Trump became president. The leftist idiots, along with the mainstream media have been trying to overthrow the election results from day one. Actually, I find Trump hasn't gone far enough to stick it to Hillary and her resistance supporters.
You DARE TALK ABOUT CLASS when the left goes after his 11 year old son. Show decapitated head of Trump and other.
Make America Great Again
You sound like a fucking lunatic
You're talking about somebodies mother but crying about the democrats disrespecting trumps family
Slavery will never happen again, neither will jim crow or a wall between mexico
So you might as well give up on the make america great again fantasy
At a certain age, "fantasies" about other things start to, well, diminish. So, I suppose the fantasy of making a country "great" (white?) again kind of replaces it. The mid-life crisis vote. The GOP does well here.
Remember when Limbaugh attacked 12 year old Chelsea Clinton? That was classy...
Children are either off limits or they aren't. I'd would say they should always be off, but you cant attack one side for going after children and then ignore, make excuses or try to rationalize it when attacks are on your 'side'. That's the very definition of hypocrisy.
He is the closest President we have had to be elected by a third party of voters..
Russian voters?
Originally Posted by OakAsFan
At a certain age, "fantasies" about other things start to, well, diminish. So, I suppose the fantasy of making a country "great" (white?) again kind of replaces it. The mid-life crisis vote. The GOP does well here.
Oak do you consider the Jews white? Knowing how much you hate Jews maybe you consider them white. We all know if Jews lived in Mexico you would build that wall on your own.
“His 8 years of living in the White House is over. This came from a union guy in Chicago who didn't vote for Obama. Very interesting perspective!
It will be interesting to see what they put in his "Library" about his early years now that he is out of office. In a country where we take notice of many, many facets of our public figures' lives, doesn't it seem odd that there's so little we know about Barack Obama?
For example, we know that Andrew Jackson's wife smoked a corn cob pipe and was accused of adultery; Abe Lincoln never went to school; Jack Kennedy wore a back brace; Harry Truman played the piano.
As Americans, we enjoy knowing details about our news makers, but none of us know one single humanizing fact about the history of our own ex-president.
We are all aware of the lack of incontestable birth records for Obama; that document managing has been spectacularly successful.
There are however, several additional oddities in Obama's history that appear to be as well managed as the birthing issue. One other interesting thing... There are no birth certificates of his daughters that can be found?
It's interesting that no one who ever dated him has shown up. The charisma that caused women to be drawn to him so strongly during his campaign, certainly would in the normal course of events, lead some lady to come forward, if only to garner some attention for herself. We all know about JFK's magnetism, that McCain was no monk and quite a few details about Palin's courtship and even her athletic prowess, Joe Biden's aneurysms are no secret; look at Cheney and Clinton, we all know about their heart problems. Certainly Wild Bill Clinton's exploits before and during his White House years, were well known. That's why it's so odd that not one lady has stepped up and said, "He was soooo shy..." or "What a great dancer..."
It's virtually impossible to know anything about this fellow. Who was best man at his wedding? Start there. Then check groomsmen.
Then get the footage of the graduation ceremony. Has anyone talked to the professors? It is odd that no one is bragging that they knew him or taught him or lived with him.
When did he meet Michele, and how? Are there photos there? Every president gives to the public all their photos, etc. for their library, etc. What has he released? And who voted for him to be the most popular man in 2010? Doesn't this make you wonder?
Ever wonder why no one ever came forward from Obama's past saying they knew him, attended school with him, was his friend, etc?? Not one person has ever come forward from his past. It certainly is very, very strange... This should be a cause for great concern. To those who voted for him, you may have elected an unqualified, inexperienced shadow man. Have you seen a movie named "The Manchurian Candidate"
As insignificant as each of us might be, someone with whom we went to school will remember our name or face; someone will remember we were the clown or the dork or the brain or the quiet one or the bully or something about us. George Stephanopoulos of ABC News said the same thing during the 2008 campaign.
He questions why no one has acknowledged he was in their classroom or ate in the same cafeteria or made impromptu speeches on campus. Stephanopoulos also was a classmate of Obama at Columbia -- the class of 1984. He says he never had a single class with him.
He is such a great orator; why doesn't anyone in Obama's college class remember him? Why won't he allow Columbia to release his records? Nobody remembers Obama at Columbia University .
Looking for evidence of Obama's past, Fox News contacted 400 Columbia University students from the period when Obama claims to have been there... but none remembered him.
Wayne Allyn Root was, like Obama, a political science major at Columbia who also graduated in 1983. In 2008, Root says of Obama, "I don't know a single person at Columbia that knew him, and they all know me. I don't have a classmate who ever knew Barack Obama at Columbia , ever."
Nobody recalls him. Root adds that he was also, like Obama, Class of '83 Political Science, and says, "You don't get more exact or closer than that. Never met him in my life, don't know anyone who ever met him. At class reunion, our 20th reunion five years ago, who was asked to be the speaker of the class? Me. No one ever heard of Barack! And five years ago, nobody even knew who he was. The guy who writes the class notes, who's kind of the, as we say in New York, 'the macha' who knows everybody, has yet to find a person, a human who ever met him."
Obama's photograph does not appear in the school's yearbooks and Obama consistently declines requests to talk about his years at Columbia, provide school records, or provide the name of any former classmates or friends while at Columbia. Some other interesting questions:
1.Why was Obama's law license inactivated in 2002? It is said there is no record of him ever taking the Bar exam.
2...Why was Michelle's law license inactivated by court order? We understand that it was forced to avoid fraud charges.
It is circulating that according to the U.S. Census, there is only one Barack Obama but 27 Social Security numbers and over 80 alias' are connected to him.
The Social Security number he uses now originated in Connecticut where he is reported to have never lived. And was originally registered to another man (Thomas Louis Wood) from Connecticut , who died in Hawaii while on vacation there.
As we all know Social Security Numbers are only issued 'once, they are not reused. No wonder all his records are sealed...
Please continue sending this out. Somewhere, someone has to know SOMETHING, before he reorganized Chicago ?... SOMETHING!!! He just seemed to burst upon the scene at the 2004 Democratic Convention. ANYONE??? ANYWHERE??? ANYTHING???
I think soon much is going to come to light about this highly unqualified person who was President of the United States for 8 years. Soon, we will know how badly we were all doped and duped by this impostor who has basically, with much help from his minions, brought the greatest nation in history to its knees in ruins.
That will be his legacy.
He totally destroyed the Integrity, morals and Christian heritage of our once great country.
Yes, I agree those son's of bitches players have no class at all ! Where is the CLASS for soldiers that died for their country.
If you want class from a president you must be willing to respect the presidency office. The way liberal democrats treated Trump and his family from the very start was a disgrace. Any honorable man will defend his family if faced in a similar situation.
These leftist democrats are childish and have been on a meltdown ever since Trump became president. The leftist idiots, along with the mainstream media have been trying to overthrow the election results from day one. Actually, I find Trump hasn't gone far enough to stick it to Hillary and her resistance supporters.
You DARE TALK ABOUT CLASS when the left goes after his 11 year old son. Show decapitated head of Trump and other.
Make America Great Again
You sound like a fucking lunatic
You're talking about somebodies mother but crying about the democrats disrespecting trumps family
Slavery will never happen again, neither will jim crow or a wall between mexico
So you might as well give up on the make america great again fantasy
Originally Posted by cookcounty
Originally Posted by Ciment
Yes, I agree those son's of bitches players have no class at all ! Where is the CLASS for soldiers that died for their country.
If you want class from a president you must be willing to respect the presidency office. The way liberal democrats treated Trump and his family from the very start was a disgrace. Any honorable man will defend his family if faced in a similar situation.
These leftist democrats are childish and have been on a meltdown ever since Trump became president. The leftist idiots, along with the mainstream media have been trying to overthrow the election results from day one. Actually, I find Trump hasn't gone far enough to stick it to Hillary and her resistance supporters.
You DARE TALK ABOUT CLASS when the left goes after his 11 year old son. Show decapitated head of Trump and other.
Make America Great Again
You sound like a fucking lunatic
You're talking about somebodies mother but crying about the democrats disrespecting trumps family
Slavery will never happen again, neither will jim crow or a wall between mexico
So you might as well give up on the make america great again fantasy
Originally Posted by cookcounty
Originally Posted by Ciment
Yes, I agree those son's of bitches players have no class at all ! Where is the CLASS for soldiers that died for their country.
If you want class from a president you must be willing to respect the presidency office. The way liberal democrats treated Trump and his family from the very start was a disgrace. Any honorable man will defend his family if faced in a similar situation.
These leftist democrats are childish and have been on a meltdown ever since Trump became president. The leftist idiots, along with the mainstream media have been trying to overthrow the election results from day one. Actually, I find Trump hasn't gone far enough to stick it to Hillary and her resistance supporters.
You DARE TALK ABOUT CLASS when the left goes after his 11 year old son. Show decapitated head of Trump and other.
Make America Great Again
You sound like a fucking lunatic
You're talking about somebodies mother but crying about the democrats disrespecting trumps family
Slavery will never happen again, neither will jim crow or a wall between mexico
So you might as well give up on the make america great again fantasy
I think your the one that is mentally unstable, I never mentioned anything in my previous statement about about slavery or Jim Crow, I do not know why you are bring this up. You must tell your imaginary friend to stop making things up about me.
With regards to the wall, It will be built and I hope they put a big painting of Donald Trump.
I noticed that you like to make false accusations without substance. Is it because you do not take the time to read. You should try it sometime.
If You Didn’t Watch the Oscars, You’re Not Alone
The Democrat Party stands for nothing that it can be honest about. The Democrat Party really has been losing elections in droves since 2010. The Democrat Party lost a presidential race with a can’t-lose candidate to an outsider who’d never been in politics before. The Democrat Party lost the presidency with an entire media industry opposed to the Republican Party candidate.â€
Another way of looking at it, the Democrat Party candidate favored, chosen, beloved Hillary Rodham Clinton had the entire, not just American, but worldwide media establishment behind her, and she still lost. And yet my friend says they own everything else. The Democrat Party may be losing left and right, and the Democrat Party may not have a bench. They may not have a clear front-runner for 2020, “But, Rush, they own everything else. They own the media. They own pop culture. They money movies, books, TV shows. They own everything. So the fact that they’re losing left and right, it never appears that way to average, ordinary low-information voters.â€
The only way the wall will be built is if thw government builds a state of the art drug tunnel
The govt makes too much money from drugs to ever build a wall
Americans love their drugs
I agree nothing is perfect. They will always find a way if they really want in but the numbers of illegals will drastically reduce. Furthermore they can always add electronic surveillance, drones and other gadgets to help curb down the flow of illegals/drugs.
This country needs Mexican immigrants, and I bet the wall is just a political posture. There's several ways for immigrants to get in (there are tunnels), and they're going to continue to let immigrants in. There's a manual labor demand. Americans don't work in fields. At least not in over a hundred years. Even that arrest where the woman was snatched on the streets by ICE, in San Diego, was a political gesture to appease the right. She's probably already back in the U.S.
Barack Obama Neither Carrot Nor Stick Just month’s into President Barack Obama’s first term, the North detonated a series of nuclear bombs.
Rather than negotiate, Mr. Obama imposed a policy of “strategic patience,†hoping that through sanctions and espionage, the United States could wait out the isolated state.
Mr. Obama hoped that the North would eventually feel it had reason to negotiate and make a good-faith effort at talks. Instead the North pursued its weapons program and launched a series of cyberattacks on American businesses, including Sony Pictures.
Mr. Obama also talked tough with the North Koreans when he thought it necessary: In 2014, he warned that the United States “will not hesitate to use our military might†to protect American allies.
North Korea’s Response It was during the Obama administration that Kim Jong-un, a grandson of the country’s founder, was named leader after the death of his father, Kim Jong-il. The youngest Mr. Kim quickly eliminated those who might challenge his leadership and began a program, using new technology, to develop an intercontinental missile.
The Americans initially hoped the young leader would represent a break from the hard-line policies of his predecessors, but instead he doubled down. In September 2016, he tested a nuclear warhead that he claimed could fit on a long-range missile.
Trump has mentioned many times in his speeches that because of the failures of past presidents democrats & republicans alike is the reason North Korea has nukes today. They gave them billions of dollars and got nothing in return. I don't blame Trump for trying something new. Hopefully this new approach will work.
All other past presents didn't want North Korea to have nukes. The reason being, is the more countries that have nukes the greater the risks of one of them will use it one day.
In WWII, it was a very terrible thing to have used the nuclear bomb but experts say that many more people would of died if they had not used it.
Latter comments you made about Trump are false because he is the greatest.
Trump has mentioned many times in his speeches that because of the failures of past presidents democrats & republicans alike is the reason North Korea has nukes today. They gave them billions of dollars and got nothing in return. I don't blame Trump for trying something new. Hopefully this new approach will work.
All other past presents didn't want North Korea to have nukes. The reason being, is the more countries that have nukes the greater the risks of one of them will use it one day.
In WWII, it was a very terrible thing to have used the nuclear bomb but experts say that many more people would of died if they had not used it.
Latter comments you made about Trump are false because he is the greatest.
MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN
North korea probably already has nukes that russia or china sold them
Trump has some explaining to do if there is an afterlife, and so do most of his supporters
Calling him the greatest....lol....are u delusional?
ICE officials now jumping ship because they're expected to lie for Trump.
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The San Francisco spokesman for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement resigned after the agency’s recent Northern California sweep, saying he couldn’t continue to do his job after Trump administration officials made false public statements about a key aspect of the operation.
Trump’s Personal Assistant Fired Over Security Issue John McEntee was fired because he is currently under investigation by the Department of Homeland Security for serious financial crimes
Black Man Spills the Beans on Real Reason Liberals Keep Calling Trump Racist
@cookcounty
The truth hurts. Democrats need to clean up their own back yard before they call other people racists. Democrats shout racist more often than giving out candies to children on halloween night. Approx. 98 % of democrats racist charges are false,bullshit is a better word. It is even more laughable when it comes from white democrats.
Any black man saying that trump aint racist is more delusional than white trump supporters
So when did america stop being great?
@ Cookcounty
Yes, your one to know the meaning of delusional. According to you all those democrat politicians drink tea when they meet up with racist Farrakhan and discuss the weather.
The parents of slain Democratic National Committee staffer Seth Rich are suing Fox News, claiming writers and editors knowingly and maliciously spread false information about their son's killing.
Trump made one mistake when he campaigned for that Pennsylvania congress men. He told Pence to go as well. Unions hate Pence he is not a union guy I guess trump did not realize that. My son is a union guy ion NYC he told me that.
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The people in California turned out 3 to 1 in Trumps favor yesterday. But the fake news networks did not show it.
I know, that is why many people stopped watching these fake news networks. Their rating keep getting lower. Especially CNN. They will still be talking about Russian collusion when we will be dead and gone.
If the demo does win in Pennsylvania it will only be for a short while. During that time the fake republican democrat will vote no on something I am sure of that. Then he lose the next election because nothing he says or does will be believed by that time.
Lamb is pro union, pro ACA, pro choice, pro-EPA regulations, pro student loan reform, pro raising minimum wage. He opposes cuts to SS and medicare, opposes tax cuts for the wealthiest...none of these are part of the current GOP platform. The `basically a Republican' attempt at spin after his loss is both dumb and delusional.
Yesterday the official GOP twitter said "“Liberal Lamb is promising to take us back to what did not work.â€Get out and vote for @Saccone4PA18 in #PA18 today!
Rick Saccone on Conor Lamb, 5 days ago: "He can try to disguise himself, but we know he's a far-left liberal."
The Congressional Leadership Fund (Paul Ryan's PAC), yesterday "Conor Lamb claims he would serve #PA18, but in Washington he would be another sheep following Nancy Pelosi’s liberal agenda."
It wouldn't matter if Lamb was further to the right than Rush Limbaugh, the fact that Trump and the GOP put all their chips on Saccone, and he lost, gives Democrats added momentum going into the mid terms. But as you said, Helen, Lamb's not a conservative, anyway. Look no further than the things Trump and Saccone were saying about him during the campaign.
Saccone was bordering on parody, "They have a hatred for our president …. Many of them have a hatred for our country. I’ll tell you some more — my wife and I saw it again today, they have a hatred for God."
I dont know of or care about democrats meeting with farrakhan, the average black person could care less about farrakhan, he aint the leader of black people
@footreads
9 times outta 10, you weren't saying america aint great before trump came up with the slogan
Everything is made in other countries because the govt doesn't want to spend money paying americans
I dont know of or care about democrats meeting with farrakhan, the average black person could care less about farrakhan, he aint the leader of black people
@footreads
9 times outta 10, you weren't saying america aint great before trump came up with the slogan
Everything is made in other countries because the govt doesn't want to spend money paying americans
@Cookcounty
Now you do not care about the democrat racist politicians having tea & biscuits with Farrakhan. Oh I get it, when it happens in your own backyard you want to hide it under the carpet.
I think Americans feel more patriotic then we felt before trump. I think we would be willing to pay more for products if we know Americans are making them.
I know I would. I think at this moment in time most Americans would except the poor ones because they would buy from anyone to save a few bucks even if what is being made outside the US is shit.
I think Americans feel more patriotic then we felt before trump. I think we would be willing to pay more for products if we know Americans are making them.
I know I would. I think at this moment in time most Americans would except the poor ones because they would buy from anyone to save a few bucks even if what is being made outside the US is shit.
I totally agree, any price increase will be negligible. If it helps american WORKERS, im all for it. I said it many times before, Trump is a machine!! The man knows how to get things done. I dont recall any other president being this result driven. Obama was a good speaker...big friggin deal !! Americans want results. Trump produces results: positive results.
What's stopping people from buying American now? It takes a little legwork to find, and it usually costs more but there is lots of stuff made here. If you believe in something you have to walk the walk, not just talk the talk.
American compnaies have a tough time producing products that get imported at a fraction of the cost. They can compete with sweatshops in china. Level the playing field, america first. Would you want your home built with chinese wood or sheetrock? How about your children playing with plastic toys made in china.
You just stated above that price increases will be negligible, and if it helps American workers you're all for it.
I didn't let my kids play with Chinese made toys, and i paid the higher prices for American or European ones. I do the same with cosmetics and toiletries. If it says made in China, and its going to come in contact with my body i dont buy it.
Adding tariffs won't decrease the prices of American goods, it will just increase the prices of imported ones. I guess that's a way of leveling the field but you'll still be paying more.
So, given that the main factor in import vs domestic prices on goods is the cost of American labor how do you level the playing field without having American consumers paying more for those goods? Ask our workers to work for global level wages? Have the government own factories or industries, like they do in China?
Pushed the new tax bill through — thats HUGE ! Im helped by it big time and im middle class. Reduced bs regulations, especially the epa. Appointed a conservative judge to supreme court Strengthened our international stance Kicked the living shit out if ISIS North korea now wants to meet with us Those are just a few.
What's stopping people from buying American now? It takes a little legwork to find, and it usually costs more but there is lots of stuff made here. If you believe in something you have to walk the walk, not just talk the talk.
I want to see made in America on the box not china or Mexico or anywhere else for that matter.
Can you buy a washing machine made here. He you buy a dishwasher made here can you buy a tv made here. Hell I want to buy an ipad made here, a can opener, a toaster etc etc
What's stopping people from buying American now? It takes a little legwork to find, and it usually costs more but there is lots of stuff made here. If you believe in something you have to walk the walk, not just talk the talk.
I want to see made in America on the box not china or Mexico or anywhere else for that matter.
Can you buy a washing machine made here. He you buy a dishwasher made here can you buy a tv made here. Hell I want to buy an ipad made here, a can opener, a toaster etc etc
You can buy a Staber washing machine, made in Ohio. Or a Frigidaire dishwasher. If you want them you can get a can opener and a toaster. Everything on your list but an Ipad. People say they want to, if they mean it then they should. All it takes is some research.
Cook county buying American made products you consider being racists? Are you a knocklehead or What? I hope black people and Latinos are making them here I would buy them.
A meat supreme deli just went out of business here. You want to know why they did not have a guy that did quality control in the store.
When that place just open up it was three days before July 4 last year. I bought a lot of meat for a baroque some of it was marinated. The marinated meat was practically all fat. Threw it all out. I knew they would be going out if business that day.
Frigidaire, which is owned by Sweden's Electrolux, produces dishwashers for both brands at their Kinston, North Carolina, plant. Another factory in Anderson, South Carolina, builds 15- to 18-cubic foot top-freezer refrigerators and premium wine coolers. But all other refrigerators are built in Juarez, Mexico.Apr 19, 2011
I don’t consider it American just because they got a company here.
Do you consider a Toyota American car just because they owned a factor here?
I don’t can an American company open a factory in japan or China. First the Japanese and the Chinese would never buy a car from an American company. If they did which they would never allow it would have a tariff on them so no Japanese or Chinese would pay that kind of money to buy one.
I did here Americans might build appliances her partially run by solar made here. That I would buy.
But I understand you now, you dont just want money in American worker's pockets, you want the companies to be American owned? So its not really the workers you care about, it's the owners/shareholders. Please explain how you think this will happen.
Technically, the foreign cars that are made in factories in the USA are factored into the GDP. We're just starting off year number two of Trump. So far he has been doing a great job. To say he divides the country is absurd.If the U.S. citizens are so concerned about Russia colluding, why do they only blame Trump. Go get on a plane to Moscow and point your finger at Putin. See where that gets you. Oh, the non-deplorables.
McMaster is a 3 star rank lieutenant general who was awarded the silver star for valor in combat, the bronze star and a purple heart. But go on, go ahead and call him a 'desk jockey' if it makes you feel better about the revolving door personnel shit show going on.
McMaster is a 3 star rank lieutenant general who was awarded the silver star for valor in combat, the bronze star and a purple heart. But go on, go ahead and call him a 'desk jockey' if it makes you feel better about the revolving door personnel shit show going on.
I don't know how people overlook the mockery trumps making outta the presidency
He fires everybody that doesn't kiss his ass like he's a giant child throwing temper tantrums
Trump and his supporters are not going to buy American. They say they will. They won't. They're going to continue shopping at Amazon and Wal Mart, they're going to pay the lowest price possible, and they're not going to bat an eye toward the product's origin.
McMaster is a 3 star rank lieutenant general who was awarded the silver star for valor in combat, the bronze star and a purple heart. But go on, go ahead and call him a 'desk jockey' if it makes you feel better about the revolving door personnel shit show going on.
I did not call him a desk jockey I called obama people desk jockey. I respect soldiers and firemen. Notice I left out cops.
Remember the girl that set up enrollment for obama care. How fucked up was she he kept her. Remember shovel ready jobs how many billions or trillions did that waste. Romberg the girl from the irs. She abused her power remember fast a furious remember Secretary of State Carey and Hillary another in competent.
Trump and his supporters are not going to buy American. They say they will. They won't. They're going to continue shopping at Amazon and Wal Mart, they're going to pay the lowest price possible, and they're not going to bat an eye toward the product's origin.
Here comes dumb fuck with his assumptions. Yes, I'm talking about the oakster. How do you justify the nonsense that you post. Just like your "Trump will never win" rhetoric, you are wrong. Some people will always buy the cheaper item, no matter the quality or where it's purchased from. How does it feel when you say Trump? Which is worse for you? Knowing that Trump is president or knowing that the cops could give two shits about who killed biggie and tupac? What do you do for a living oak? Are you one of those forty something that collects disability rt some bullshit diagnosis bc it's easier to collect a little off something than work hard for a little more. You want to make assumptions about Trump supporters, game on scumbag.
Calling democrats racist in comparison to republicans is a joke
@Cookcounty
Democrat politicians,currently in office, who legitimize meeting & associating with racist Ferrakhan makes them racist. They do not meet for milk and cookies.
Again before you call other people racist, start cleaning up your own backyard.
McMaster is a 3 star rank lieutenant general who was awarded the silver star for valor in combat, the bronze star and a purple heart. But go on, go ahead and call him a 'desk jockey' if it makes you feel better about the revolving door personnel shit show going on.
I don't know how people overlook the mockery trumps making outta the presidency
He fires everybody that doesn't kiss his ass like he's a giant child throwing temper tantrums
Same could be said for Obama's inaction for Fast & Furious, Benghazi, Clinton emails,Uranium one, Kerry's dumb deal with Iran and more.
At least Trump firing of his staff, for which he is empowered, has no long term damage to the country.
Trump runs the white house like a company. If someone isnt producing, they are simply let go. If he finds someome thats more qualified, he hires them. Thats a good quality. Opposed to obama who filled his office with incompetence. Eric holder wouldnt of lasted 2 minutes under president trump. He would of been fired ! !
Our diplomatic and military policy leadership is wiped out in a single week. I keep hearing from Trump supporters that we're doing so much better globally with this new administration than we were before. If these men weren't performing how would this incredible improvement of our status on the world stage be possible?
McMaster managed the most important inter-agency process in the U.S. government and the most important staff in the White House. The celebrated strides the US made against ISIS were done under his stewardship of policy. I'm willing to hear in which way he failed at this job if anyone wants to elucidate.
Tillerson was in charge of Foreign Policy, and last week everyone was celebrating the breakthrough with North Korea. Is this another example of under performance?
S. Korea's foreign minister, was scheduled to meet with Tillerson in Washington, now he will meet Ivanka instead. I'm sure shes eminently more qualified.
As a Trump fan, clearly this is not good for morale. Its kind of hard to like your job when you know that any minute you could be let go. Its not good. Its amazing how he keeps finding good replacements. There comes a time when no one will accept due to the uncertainty.
The instability is very unsettling, but I'm ready to see Sessions and DeVos gone. Especially DeVos, she's essentially a danger to future generations of Americans and the most transparent appointment in an administration full of them.
Can I get a Wtf! They've complicated math for kids by introducing this model of number bonds. Bond models work well with chemistry. Because that's what elements do. When I was a kid, when my parents were kids, and so on, we all learned addition and subtraction by memorization at an early age. Now they've added multiple steps for simple addition and subtraction. My kids math teacher made me so mad with this nonsense and her argument of evidence based blah blah, that last summer I schooled him on all the tricks I could remember with multiplication and division over the summer. The first week of this school year, I demanded that they test his math level and landed him in the next grades advanced math class. I don't know why they have to mess with a good thing. Does anyone else's kids or grandkids have this practice our is it just a Florida thing.
So evidently no one here can actually do common core math.
I sure there are brilliant mathemations on here who might be able to look it up on the internet and do one already done.
But no one can do that math if they were given a simple math question for the first time by their own kid
I agree that Common Core is ridiculous. However, that doesn't mean DeVos is the right person for the job. She secured her position through the exact same "swamp" practices that Trump decried through his campaign and is so unfit for the position she holds it's not even funny. Did you see her on 60 Minutes? This is a woman who has no degrees in an education-related field, no experience working in schools at all, and has never attended a public school or sent her children to one, and supports for-profit education. This is not a woman who cares about the average kid in Anytown, USA. Can you really tell me with a straight face that this woman was the best possible candidate for the job?
So, the case against Common Core is based just in traditionalism? Anyone have an objection to it based in its merit where the 21st century global business world is concerned?
I remember the paranoia over the metric system. It never happened here in the states. Did we stand tall and win the cultural war, or did we just outsource all of the jobs anyway, so now it's a moot point? I think one could walk around and observe the answer.
By making people look up the word dotard, Kim Jong Un has done more for American education than Betsy DeVos.
I joke, but it couldn't be a more serious issue. Her humiliating performance on 60 Minutes got attention, but it's about her policy agenda and complete lack of qualifications that we need to be concerned with. The damage she is doing will be with us for a long time.
Cant help to notice Kim Jong sporting the fedora hats since the talk of meeting Trump. They don't have access to American movies produced after 1940, evidently. They're excited. Got the RCA record player and Glen Miller 45s ready to go for the big sit down with Don Dotard.
Common core. When it comes to education, there should be no such thing as common. Some will excel and others will barely get by. No reason to subject those who excel to limit their ability to demonstrate their potential. I assume that's why there is a rise in charter schools.
Some charter schools follow common core, as do many private and parochial schools. It depends on both the individual state/schoolboard/B of E, and school.
Trump got elected president and is allowed to appoints and fire who he wants. Democrats should get over the fact that they lost the election. The resistance will soon come to an end when people from the FBI and DOJ will be handcuffed and sent to prison. Obama appointed the most incompetent administration; many in his administration should of been fired for their fuck ups. Trump is a man of action, he hardly sleeps, his staff can't keep up to him. That is why he needs new blood. Change is good and new ideas will be implemented.
Democrats criticize Trump's appointees and these are the same people that voted for crooked Hillary that has a hard time standing on her own two feet.
What does that have to do with political appointees? And what if you didn't vote for Hillary, then are you allowed to critique Trump's choices?
Like I always say, not trying to be rude, but I can't help but notice just about every single time someone criticizes Trump they are met with "But Democrat so-and-so did XYZ so they are worse!". Which has nothing to do with solutions, especially if you're like myself and not a Democrat.
I criticize Trump's appointees, but I'm not a Democrat and did not vote for Hillary. I've stated why I don't think DeVos was worthy of appointment. What's your retort?Again, not trying to be an asshole, but I'm genuinely interested to know how you feel without resorting to whatboutism.
Democrats criticize Trump's appointees and these are the same people that voted for crooked Hillary that has a hard time standing on her own two feet.
What does that have to do with political appointees? And what if you didn't vote for Hillary, then are you allowed to critique Trump's choices?
Like I always say, not trying to be rude, but I can't help but notice just about every single time someone criticizes Trump they are met with "But Democrat so-and-so did XYZ so they are worse!". Which has nothing to do with solutions, especially if you're like myself and not a Democrat.
I criticize Trump's appointees, but I'm not a Democrat and did not vote for Hillary. I've stated why I don't think DeVos was worthy of appointment. What's your retort?Again, not trying to be an asshole, but I'm genuinely interested to know how you feel without resorting to whatboutism.
Who cares who you voted for, I have a right to defend Trump's appointees just as you have a right to criticize. Even if you were a republican, and there are swamp republicans that hate Trump, you would of been met with the same fate. What am I supposed to do keep track of who you voted for. Furthermore, you weren't the only one that criticized Trump's appointees. Did I mention you by name? The answer is no ! If you did not vote for Hillary then you shouldn't be bothered by what I said about her. Devos was not the only Trump appointee/future appointee that was criticized here, you can go back and check; and where in my statement did I mention Devos ? So did I give you facts or did I resort to whatboutism ? It looks like you jumped the gun.
I mentioned DeVos specifically because that's an appointee that I criticized, so I figured I would explain why to show you in good faith that I'm not just doing so blindly. And why would you have to mention me by name for me to question your thought process?
You don't seem interested in answering my questions though, so I'll leave it there.
I mentioned DeVos specifically because that's an appointee that I criticized, so I figured I would explain why to show you in good faith that I'm not just doing so blindly. And why would you have to mention me by name for me to question your thought process?
You don't seem interested in answering my questions though, so I'll leave it there.
I was polite and tried to answer your questions the best I know how. Apparently you seem pissed off for something I do not know. But who cares.
You didn't even attempt to answer my questions, I at least tried. Now you are doing whatboutism, what the fuck that means.
I am willing to end it there but if you want to carry this conversation further let's go.
I can't help but notice just about every single time someone criticizes Trump they are met with "But Democrat so-and-so did XYZ so they are worse!". .
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Whataboutism (also known as whataboutery) is a variant of the tu quoque logical fallacy that attempts to discredit an opponent's position by charging them with hypocrisy without directly refuting or disproving their argument,[1][2][3] which is particularly associated with Soviet and Russian propaganda.[4][5][6] When criticisms were leveled at the Soviet Union, the Soviet response would be "What about..." followed by an event in the Western world.[7][8][9]...
...Critics say that US President Donald Trump has engaged in whataboutism in response to criticism leveled at him, his policies, or his support of controversial world leaders.[4][88][89] National Public Radio (NPR) reported, "President Trump has developed a consistent tactic when he's criticized: say that someone else is worse."[4] NPR noted Trump chose to criticize the Affordable Care Act when he himself faced criticism over the proposed American Health Care Act of 2017, "Instead of giving a reasoned defense, he went for blunt offense, which is a hallmark of whataboutism."[4] NPR noted similarities in use of the tactic by Putin and Trump, "it's no less striking that while Putin's Russia is causing the Trump administration so much trouble, Trump nevertheless often sounds an awful lot like Putin".[4]
I can't help but notice just about every single time someone criticizes Trump they are met with "But Democrat so-and-so did XYZ so they are worse!". .
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Whataboutism (also known as whataboutery) is a variant of the tu quoque logical fallacy that attempts to discredit an opponent's position by charging them with hypocrisy without directly refuting or disproving their argument,[1][2][3] which is particularly associated with Soviet and Russian propaganda.[4][5][6] When criticisms were leveled at the Soviet Union, the Soviet response would be "What about..." followed by an event in the Western world.[7][8][9]...
...Critics say that US President Donald Trump has engaged in whataboutism in response to criticism leveled at him, his policies, or his support of controversial world leaders.[4][88][89] National Public Radio (NPR) reported, "President Trump has developed a consistent tactic when he's criticized: say that someone else is worse."[4] NPR noted Trump chose to criticize the Affordable Care Act when he himself faced criticism over the proposed American Health Care Act of 2017, "Instead of giving a reasoned defense, he went for blunt offense, which is a hallmark of whataboutism."[4] NPR noted similarities in use of the tactic by Putin and Trump, "it's no less striking that while Putin's Russia is causing the Trump administration so much trouble, Trump nevertheless often sounds an awful lot like Putin".[4]
So Obama was the first black president (with white lineage), made the entire black population proud and proved the world wrong and you give him the respect he deserves by telling us his daughter has a phat ass. Man he really touched your life and helped debunk stereotypes.
So Obama was the first black president (with white lineage), made the entire black population proud and proved the world wrong and you give him the respect he deserves by telling us his daughter has a phat ass. Man he really touched your life and helped debunk stereotypes.
U wouldn't be mentioning him being half white if he wasnt a former president, thats a fact
Trump said he'd date his daughter if she wasn't his daughter....thats creepy
So Obama was the first black president made the entire black population proud and proved the world wrong and you give him the respect he deserves by telling us his daughter has a phat ass. Man he really touched your life and helped debunk stereotypes
That a black person could be elected in America, do you not know the history of America or the racist undertones you and Cook have claimed to exist for the whole duration of this thread?
That a black person could be elected in America, do you not know the history of America or the racist undertones you and Cook have claimed to exist for the whole duration of this thread?
Racist undertones? Some here are keeping it in plain sight.
So Obama was the first black president made the entire black population proud and proved the world wrong and you give him the respect he deserves by telling us his daughter has a phat ass. Man he really touched your life and helped debunk stereotypes
So i shouldnt notice that she has a nice body because he was the first black president?
Footreads made a crack about him molesting his children and u didnt complain about that
The fall of the Hillary/Obama resistance has just began with the firing of Andy McCabe. Rumor has it that they are also thinking of laying criminal charges against him. The deep state is in deep trouble and there will be more heads to fall. More shit has come out on the FBI love birds Peter Strzok & Lisa Page and a FISA judge may also be implicated.The arrogance of these people trying to overthrow an elected president is unbelievable. Time to pay the piper.
So Obama was the first black president made the entire black population proud and proved the world wrong and you give him the respect he deserves by telling us his daughter has a phat ass. Man he really touched your life and helped debunk stereotypes
So i shouldnt notice that she has a nice body because he was the first black president?
Footreads made a crack about him molesting his children and u didnt complain about that
The fall of the Hillary/Obama resistance has just began with the firing of Andy McCabe. Rumor has it that they are also thinking of laying criminal charges against him. The deep state is in deep trouble and there will be more heads to fall. More shit has come out on the FBI love birds Peter Strzok & Lisa Page and a FISA judge may also be implicated.The arrogance of these people trying to overthrow an elected president is unbelievable. Time to pay the piper.
I made a post about him he was corporating because he had money and did not want to lose it. He is going to lose his pension now and he will be in jail later. The fbi has their own watch dog group they wanted him fired.
He is going to rat atveveryone if he goes to jail and he will. All parties are at risk now and they all know it from Hillary even Obama so not only was obama the first black president he maybe the first president to do a prison stretch.
Maybe Comey and the rest of the 7th floor may all be going. Good that is where they belong.
You know the first general under trump indicted he maybe getting off. Strok set him up and now he will get off and the guy strok will also go to jail.
Also obama head of the cia and the other guy that back Comey.
Your right eventually Comey and the democrats are going to be found out and they are all going to be disgraced and hopefully go to jail. That’s Hillary obama and the rest of the sheep. They are trying to delay it until after the 2018 election. Fbi is trying to cover it up so not to hurt the fbi reputation to late for that. So let it play out and enjoy the show it is going to be a lot of fun to watch.
Comey problem is he would do anything to stay on his job. He is just a disgruntled employee who has never been fired before.
Hopefully after it is over his wife will devorce him.
Your right eventually Comey and the democrats are going to be found out and they are all going to be disgraced and hopefully go to jail. That’s Hillary obama and the rest of the sheep. They are trying to delay it until after the 2018 election. Fbi is trying to cover it up so not to hurt the fbi reputation to late for that. So let it play out and enjoy the show it is going to be a lot of fun to watch.
Comey problem is he would do anything to stay on his job. He is just a disgruntled employee who has never been fired before.
Hopefully after it is over his wife will devorce him.
On the contrary, this is more of a reason to post. Now we will get to have fun and see FBI arrogant shitheads get fired and later arrested. I hope they make a clean up at the DOJ & state department. The ultimate prize would be to have crooked Hillary in jail where she belongs.
That is if she can stand on her own two feet. She always says she is healthy, so why is she falling all the time? May she should stay off that Russian vodka.
If you believe them, they're all innocent anyways. Watch out, here comes COOK to bring race into another posting. Are we seeing a pattern. Where are the moderators. Someone needs a talking to.
So now the fbi and department of justice are incompetent cuz trump said so
Let all the people they've prosecuted out of jail then, all the black and brown drug dealers
Trump supporters would commit mass suicide if he ordered yall to
@Cookcounty
I should of been more specific, the upper echelon of the FBI and DOJ are the ones that should go to jail for their treasonous behavior. The ones that conspired against Trump. The lower echelon are too busy doing their job fighting terrorism & other,they should be admired.
The rest of your statement is just crap and I would not waste my time.
He also colluded with the Russians? I would be appalled if someone with your mindset was president. As of now I'm appalled that a parent or parents whatever the case may be, raised you. When you were told that you were an accident your whole life, did they really mean that you were accidentally born after the abortion? Your illiterate mind may believe the obstruction theory, but ask yourself: where is the indictment, where is the impeachment? This the language that will be directed towards cook from here on out.
House Intel Republican says panel did not investigate collusion
Rep. Mike Conaway (R-Texas) said Sunday the House Intelligence Committee was not tasked with investigating collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign, despite the committee issuing a report last week stating it found no evidence of collusion in the 2016 election.
"Our committee was not charged with answering the collusion idea," Conaway said on NBC's "Meet The Press."
So now the fbi and department of justice are incompetent cuz trump said so
Let all the people they've prosecuted out of jail then, all the black and brown drug dealers
Trump supporters would commit mass suicide if he ordered yall to
@blueracing
Hillary was by far and large the better candidate
8 years of a black president (racism) and her being a woman is the reason she lost
Cookie trump did not say so the fbi watchdog group said so. Let the black and brown drug dealers out I am all for it. I hope it happens.
I actually hope all the liberal democrats commit mass suicide when the shit hits the fan. The world would be a better place without them.
I predict Hillary will be dead in a year. Here being a women has nothing to do with it. I happen to love pussy except hers.
Bill brought Hillary flowers she tells him what did you do wrong. He says I just wanted to be nice she said I suppose you want me naked with my legs spread all night. He said no just put the flowers in a vase instead.
Make American great again is code word for the demented
I was going to say it's code word for "white", but I like this better.
The demented people are liberals that aid and abet illegal criminals for political gain and play the race card while at the same time shelter racists in their own party.
House Intel Republican says panel did not investigate collusion
Rep. Mike Conaway (R-Texas) said Sunday the House Intelligence Committee was not tasked with investigating collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign, despite the committee issuing a report last week stating it found no evidence of collusion in the 2016 election.
"Our committee was not charged with answering the collusion idea," Conaway said on NBC's "Meet The Press."
Rep. Mike Conaway (R-Texas) said there was no Russian collusion. Find attached interview.
Most Republicans say there is no collision, while a few have hinted at it.
I wonder who Trump is going to fire next. This elections year is going to be really exciting considering that both the left and right lobbyists have already been pumping money into their candidates, for a good head start.
The only thing I am a real liberal about is a parent touching his kid. If I saw that as a coach I would confront the parent and tell them keep your hand off that kid. If they did not stop I would show them what it felt like by doing what they did hitting them. I have done it a few times.
Once we had a under nine yr old team practice at night under the lights. Around the field their were soft ball fields. We had a permit for that field to practice on. The soft ball players did not. So they started to hit soft balls out to where we were practing. I told a parent we would be off the field in ten minutes. The softball players men thought they could gorilla us off the field if they kept it up.
So finally they got what they wanted I sent the team home a little early. But now I was a little pissed off at the soft ball guys. I found a ball on our field and took it and walked toward them. A player wanted the ball I did answer him just kept walking toward them. When I was ten feet from the leader or their manger I picked up one of their soft bats metal bat. I told him there stuff was mine now. He said something I hit him in the face with the ball. A clincher soft ball is actually pretty hard if you get hit in the face with one from close range. Then someone else tried to talk he got the bat in the ribs I saw the ribs move. They could have all jumped me and fucked me up. But instead they must have been real liberals and they ran away fucking punks.
Is there a real liberal who would actually fight if they did not have the time to call the police?
I knew one kid Irish kid he got me into the music I like today. Like Black Sabbath and cream and other groups like that. Before that it was jay and the Americans. I still like them.
But he hated the Vietnam war so he would go picket against it. For a pacifist he would also get into fight I used to laugh when I saw it. He just get married an Irish girl from Ireland. A real knockout a beauty with that Irish accent.
Their first place was a real shit hole after I saw it I would bring them stuff to decorate it I stole everything I brought them.
I knew I wanted to fuck that girl. Any way one day he leaves her alone with me to picket. Half hour later I was banging her. It did that for three months.
Later my friends and I saw another group of picketers burning the American flag. We did not like that. I went home, but they stayed followed the guy he burned the flag and kidnapped him off the street. They took him some place where they could take their time with him. I was told latter someone bought a flag wraped it around his head and sit the flag on fire.
Is there a real liberal who would actually fight if they did not have the time to call the police?
I knew one kid Irish kid he got me into the music I like today. Like Black Sabbath and cream and other groups like that. Before that it was jay and the Americans. I still like them.
But he hated the Vietnam war so he would go picket against it. For a pacifist he would also get into fight I used to laugh when I saw it. He just get married an Irish girl from Ireland. A real knockout a beauty with that Irish accent.
Their first place was a real shit hole after I saw it I would bring them stuff to decorate it I stole everything I brought them.
I knew I wanted to fuck that girl. Any way one day he leaves her alone with me to picket. Half hour later I was banging her. It did that for three months.
Later my friends and I saw another group of picketers burning the American flag. We did not like that. I went home, but they stayed followed the guy he burned the flag and kidnapped him off the street. They took him some place where they could take their time with him. I was told latter someone bought a flag wraped it around his head and sit the flag on fire.
Their first place was a real shit hole after I saw it I would bring them stuff to decorate it I stole everything I brought them.
I knew I wanted to fuck that girl. Any way one day he leaves her alone with me to picket. Half hour later I was banging her. It did that for three months.
Later my friends and I saw another group of picketers burning the American flag. We did not like that. I went home, but they stayed followed the guy he burned the flag and kidnapped him off the street. They took him some place where they could take their time with him. I was told latter someone bought a flag wraped it around his head and sit the flag on fire.
It's hard to believe you have a daughter who won't speak with you.
The whole taking their time and doing whatever they did to the scumbag could have really been avoided. If he didn't like this country he should have left. Just like the liberals
Why ?? After over a year investigating, the evidence so far has only proven that democrats colluded with Russia...If Russia was such a dangerous threat to us, why did Hillary and Obama give them 20% of our uranium ?? How did that benefit the U.S.'s interests ??
Is there a real liberal who would actually fight if they did not have the time to call the police?
I knew one kid Irish kid he got me into the music I like today. Like Black Sabbath and cream and other groups like that. Before that it was jay and the Americans. I still like them.
But he hated the Vietnam war so he would go picket against it. For a pacifist he would also get into fight I used to laugh when I saw it. He just get married an Irish girl from Ireland. A real knockout a beauty with that Irish accent.
Their first place was a real shit hole after I saw it I would bring them stuff to decorate it I stole everything I brought them.
I knew I wanted to fuck that girl. Any way one day he leaves her alone with me to picket. Half hour later I was banging her. It did that for three months.
Later my friends and I saw another group of picketers burning the American flag. We did not like that. I went home, but they stayed followed the guy he burned the flag and kidnapped him off the street. They took him some place where they could take their time with him. I was told latter someone bought a flag wraped it around his head and sit the flag on fire.
Why did you bang your own friends wife?
He was not a real friend plus in those days I just took what I wanted. It was before I met my wife
Their first place was a real shit hole after I saw it I would bring them stuff to decorate it I stole everything I brought them.
I knew I wanted to fuck that girl. Any way one day he leaves her alone with me to picket. Half hour later I was banging her. It did that for three months.
Later my friends and I saw another group of picketers burning the American flag. We did not like that. I went home, but they stayed followed the guy he burned the flag and kidnapped him off the street. They took him some place where they could take their time with him. I was told latter someone bought a flag wraped it around his head and sit the flag on fire.
It's hard to believe you have a daughter who won't speak with you. He
She speaks to me in fact she will be here with my grandson Henry on March 26. On the March 27 we all go to jersey to meet my new grand daughter. You can plan a day she will be induced to deliver that’s the day
Russian people don’t love trump they love Putin. It sounds like a place oak would move to if he could hopefully he will after hill, obama and the rest go to prison.
Yes, DiLorenzo, I'm aware the REPUBLICANS doing the investigating are trying to pass this off on the Democrats and divert attention from Trump. In related news, the fox says the hen house is fine.
He was not a real friend plus in those days I just took what I wanted. It was before I met my wife
Sure. You get called on it, then invoke your wife and how you're a changed man. You bragged about having sex with a friend's wife multiple times. You bragged about routinely stealing household items, which isn't altogether a horrible thing compared to other things you've admitted to, but then, you admit to having knowledge of someone being kidnapped and burned for nothing more than expressing a political statement, which is a terrorist attack. And, of course, this was probably your watered down version of the story anyway. You were probably one of the assailants. Come on, why would you bring it up if you weren't involved? It's your style. It's the Trump way. You're just not going to confess to a felony on the internet,. Anyhow, I always enjoy reading stories from Trump supporters about their past. What role models you guys are.
Yes, DiLorenzo, I'm aware the REPUBLICANS doing the investigating are trying to pass this off on the Democrats and divert attention from Trump. In related news, the fox says the hen house is fine.
The FBI was investigating this bs since before Trump was elected...So that's around two years now between the FBI, senate and house investigations and Mueller's with hunt and there's nothing...Its amazing how one reality star can get over on all these investigators isn't it ?? Lol
Mueller isn't even investigating the collusion anymore....Even buggy eyed Schiif said that he cant rely on Mueller finding evidence of collusion...
Just amazing how the reality star pulled off the greatest election heist in history and nobody can find any evidence of it !! Lol
Almost none of that is true, DiLorenzo. You're in denial. We'll see if Trump tries to fire Mueller.
"You can't prove it" are always the words of a guilty person. It is common knowledge that Trump is a traitor. He even congratulated Putin on his reelection, after he's threatened our country.
Trump supporters are the people who need to leave the country. They're the real traitors.
Clinton did not get in peached because he got his dick sucked. He lied about it under oath.
But it never would have come to that if he did not break his promise that he made to the republicans.
He promised the republicans he would not shut down the government. Then he broke that promise because the democrats came to him and asked him to break the promise that he made to Orin Hatch. So he let the government shut down. He made an enemy of the Republican when he did that.
That was the real reason why he was impeached.
Now unlike Clinton trump did not break any promises he made to the democrats they still hated him. That’s is why he should deport every illegal in the country and fuck Daca. Because the democrats are trying to use it against him.
Clinton was only impeached by a Republican congress. It was overturned by the senate. He served out his term. He also presided over the most peaceful and prosperous time in the country's history.
The Whitewater investigation began in May 1994, and Special Counsel was appointed in August 1994, the shutdown began in November 1995.
The Whitewater investigation lasted 4+ years.
Mueller was appointed Special Counsel on May 17, 2017. His investigation hasn't even been going on for 1 year.
What's the rush now? Surely the allegations here deserve as careful investigation as Whitewater did.
Trump has nothing to worry about on the Russia front, he's done nothing wrong, as he keeps telling us. And the GOP holds a majority in both the house and Senate, so impeachment by the Dems for sheer partisanship sake isn't going to be an issue.
Mueller has found some some serious money laundering crimes, which deserve prosecution, even if nothing else comes out of the investigation. And the indictments against the Russians by Mueller resulted in sanctions on them. Not bad for a witch hunt.
Interestingly, Ted Olson declined to join Trump's legal team yesterday, for the second time.
Problem with trump you can never be sure if he would listen to his legal advice.
Who cares how Long mueller’s investigation. Let it go on the people are bored with it. So I am with you man. Let’s say one of his people did something before the election that might be illegal.
An example could be he was married and was driving some where to fuck his girl friend.
When he loses control of his car into a river. His girl is drowning and begging for help. So he saves himself and let’s her die. Let’s say her name was Mary Joe.
It has something to do with him not trump.you a special council is just a witch hunt to get you to lie about someone so you don’t go to jail yourself
Problem with trump you can never be sure if he would listen to his legal advice.
Who cares how Long mueller’s investigation. Let it go on the people are bored with it. So I am with you man. Let’s say one of his people did something before the election that might be illegal.
An example could be he was married and was driving some where to fuck his girl friend.
When he loses control of his car into a river. His girl is drowning and begging for help. So he saves himself and let’s her die. Let’s say her name was Mary Joe.
It has something to do with him not trump.you a special council is just a witch hunt to get you to lie about someone so you don’t go to jail yourself
Ted Kennedy should have gone to jail, so im not sure where you're going here. But its a perfect example of how we have a different system of justice for the rich and powerful.
Here is where I am going if that person was not Kennedy and was just someone on trumps campaign he would likely go to jail. Unless he makes a deal to lie to the special counsel to lie about trump to stay out of jail.
Now was the special prosecutor formed to get a guy who drown his girl friend?
Clinton and Obama both inherited recessions and left the country with much better economies, especially Clinton, who left us with arguably the best economy in the nation's history. The last Republican president inherited a great economy and left us with shit. Considering Trump doesn't care one bit about working people (he has a history of not even paying them), I can only imagine the "shit hole" he's going to leave us with. Hopefully he's impeached or resigns before he can do too much damage.
When his first four years are up and all the bullshit in your head comes true oakster, speak at that point. After you were so DEAD wrong about the election outcome, everything you post related to PRESIDENT TRUMP should be regarded as bullshit. And if you're correct I'll be one of the first to say, you were right. Until then, I will think of you as a whiny liberal dumb fuck who can't admit he was wrong.
Who is John dowd? I see he is trump lawyer who said they should end the special counsel because it is a witch hunt. Trump let him go because he wants mueller to continue his duties as the special council.
So I guess he is not afraid of anything mueller is doing. I suspect the country is getting bored by this witch hunt. So he trump wants it to continue. Smart
Who is John dowd? I see he is trump lawyer who said they should end the special counsel because it is a witch hunt. Trump let him go because he wants mueller to continue his duties as the special council.
So I guess he is not afraid of anything mueller is doing. I suspect the country is getting bored by this witch hunt. So he trump wants it to continue. Smart
The special council has indicted far too many people to call it a witch hunt
Trump already obstructed justice, i guess that's what innocent people do
Trump makes complete asses out of those who work for him, not to mention his voters, who he pulled one of the biggest campaign bait and switches ever against. The poor, rural white people who came out for him are getting not one thing that they were promised. Mexico's not paying for the wall. THEY are. And, I doubt the wall ever really goes up anyway. Trump hires undocumented workers as much as anyone. He'll just keep telling his rubes the lie to retain their vote for 2020. He said himself, just tell people whatever you want, they'll believe it. He's talking about his fans.
lol. Iike I said. You would think his supporters would wake up from the hangover some day, realize they'd been had, and be mad as hell. But they never will. They'll just jump on the next populist showman's bandwagon.
"To prevent the omnibus situation from ever happening again, I'm calling on Congress to give me a line item veto for all government spending bills" -POTUS
Can someone please explain to the Head of the Executive Branch what ruled unconstitutional means, and how our government works? They can use puppets if they think it will help.
This is the gimmick of the Trump supporters. They're trying to make it about Trump's opposition, when it's really about them. They are the ones who were played. And, Trump just played them again. Just signed a budget bill that doesn't include funding for a border wall. After signing, he fed some lip service to his rubes, telling them "he'll never sign a bill like that again". LOL! What? He already said he wouldn't sign it. Then he signed it. Now he's saying he won't sign it again. Of course he will. Because he's a politician, like the others. He wants to get reelected. He wants to win over moderate Democrats. And, this is the only way to do it. Trump is now appealing to the center. Those people showing up to his rallies with those red hats? He is now ignoring them.
White House attorneys are examining whether two loans totaling more than $500 million to Jared Kushner’s family business may have violated any criminal laws or federal ethics regulations, according to a letter from OGE.
He would still need Congressional approval to redirect the spending bill money from the the military portion, which he isn't going to get. You can't just move money around, misappropriation of funds is illegal. A POTUS should know stuff like that.
Trump makes complete asses out of those who work for him, not to mention his voters, who he pulled one of the biggest campaign bait and switches ever against. The poor, rural white people who came out for him are getting not one thing that they were promised. Mexico's not paying for the wall. THEY are. And, I doubt the wall ever really goes up anyway. Trump hires undocumented workers as much as anyone. He'll just keep telling his rubes the lie to retain their vote for 2020. He said himself, just tell people whatever you want, they'll believe it. He's talking about his fans.
Mexico will pay for the wall through the tariff they will have to pay to send they crap they make here. I should say you will be paying for the wall because you will buy the shit the Mexicans make because it is cheap.
I don’t even buy Mexican food if it is Goya oh boys it’s shit.
If you listen to that pathetic old hag that oak probably jerks off to every time his parents leave the house (Hillary), she sounds just like her pathetic followers. She won't accept the loss. That [BadWord] had the presidency handed to her and she still Fucked it up. Just like her followers and their handouts. Pathetic people given handouts and still can't get out of their own way and continue to blame others for their pathetic existence. Right at you Oakster!
@blue racing...I dont know if u watch "Homeland " but the president is portrayed by a woman... a mistake on the producers part b-cause they assumed that Hillary was gonna take the chair...filmed b- 4 the election...now they r finding a way 2 kill her off the program....I dont know who the replacment will b, or how Oak is going 2 jerk off 2 the results..
Trump makes complete asses out of those who work for him, not to mention his voters, who he pulled one of the biggest campaign bait and switches ever against. The poor, rural white people who came out for him are getting not one thing that they were promised. Mexico's not paying for the wall. THEY are. And, I doubt the wall ever really goes up anyway. Trump hires undocumented workers as much as anyone. He'll just keep telling his rubes the lie to retain their vote for 2020. He said himself, just tell people whatever you want, they'll believe it. He's talking about his fans.
Mexico will pay for the wall through the tariff they will have to pay to send they crap they make here. I should say you will be paying for the wall because you will buy the shit the Mexicans make because it is cheap.
I don’t even buy Mexican food if it is Goya oh boys it’s shit.
Mexico aint paying for no fucking wall, DONALD TRUMP HAS FAILED U, he broke a promise
Putin has him by the balls and China will have us bent over on a table worse than they do now in another 4 years
He's making america great again with his jim crow fantasies
Mexico will pay for the wall through the tariff they will have to pay to send they crap they make here. I should say you will be paying for the wall because you will buy the shit the Mexicans make because it is cheap.
I don’t even buy Mexican food if it is Goya oh boys it’s shit.
Exporters don't pay tariffs, importers do. And they just pass that cost on to the consumers. Which is part of why trade wars are considered so harmful.
Mexico and Canada were exempted from the tarriffs Trump just put in place anyway. Which now gives them a huge leg up on the countries that are now under heavy tarriffs. We will be buying more steel and aluminum from them, not less.
He's making america great again with his jim crow fantasies
Of course you always play the race card. That's all people like you can come up with. Trump is far from perfect but at least he tries to put Americans first.
I don't think I would trust a douche like yourself to pay up. But, I'm going to have to say you're wrong. The wall will be built. I love how you categorize trumps base as lower class white people. It goes to show that you have no clue about what you're talking about. I just watched a family member of the barber shop killing. "I'm not satisfied, I want more answers." Along those lines. Ok dumb fuck, the family called the cops on him. The cops found him at the barber shop. Scumbag opens fire, mind you kids were present, cop reruns fire, scumbag killed. Your family member was a scumbag and got what he deserved. Just like those who supported Hillary. Just like oakster the douche.
Trump lays the groundwork and its up to the individual to take advantage of those great opportunities. Unfortunately, some people would rather get a free check from the government, not work, and fabricate reasons why they are better off being lazy.
@cook county, just like Hilary and her supporters they're too ignorant to see the obvious. This family member wants to know why the guy was shot dead. Hillary and her supporters can't come to terms with why she lost. I'm sorry, as an adult I assumed that you had the ability to comprehend at a higher level than one who suffered an anoxic brain injury. "The pigs"?
Dixiemafia criticizes the race card, then uses one of the classical racist euphemisms of the post civil rights era.
"Trump puts Americans first"
Americans, of course, meaning white people.
How do you figure that??? What has Trump done that has only benefited white folks? I'm still trying to figure out what this white privilege bullshit is y'all talk about.
Originally Posted by cookcounty
Trump spent his whole campaign talking about building walls and kicking out immigrants, thats race related
The president and 85% of his supporters are vile and evil people
How is it racist that Trump wants ILLEGAL aliens out of this country? You do know your savior Obama AND Clinton both have said some of the same things right? Just check out youtube and see how they are so "racist" too because at one time both were against illegals as well. Good to know Clinton and Obama are racists as well.
Hate to tell y'all this but plenty of blacks voted for Trump too.
You call Trump racist for SAYING THE SAME THING! Fucking hypocrites. Have fun coming up with your excuses as I'm bowing out of this thread since the best y'all can do is cry about white privilege and how Trump is racist because he wants the same thing Clinton and Obama wanted.
Cookie baby. Racist? You want to assume we're all racist? I'm going to have to assume you're a scumbag piece of shit that can't get ahead in life. Blame the white man. You were probably part of the McDonald's employees that demanded $15/hr. now you're unemployed with the addition of the automated sever. Just like the other guy. You're a pathetic piece of shit.
He's angry because Trump's presidency is a failure and he knows it. Stock market is plunging. Trump scared a bunch of kids yesterday when he started yelling about Mexicans during an easter egg hunt. He's by far the worst president ever.
Hello guys I got a brand new beautiful baby Grand daughter. At least she would not be confused with my bigger Grand daughter Sophia she looks like her mother a blond. Her sister Samantha looks like my my mother dark hair and completion.
My youngest son just bought a house here in Brooklyn. He is happy.
My other Grandson Henry from Germany just played in a friendly game in New Jersey. My friend from the Princeton Soccer club let him play. He scored three goals one was from apex 40 yards out man he has a live foot.
They were trying to recruit him. Next week he plays another friendly for my club here in Brooklyn.
This has nothing to do with trump. But trump maybe the best president we ever had especially if you compare him to obama. But all the fake news agencies can talk about who he fucked not what he has done.
I dont hate people who wake up in the morning because of their skin color
Racism is a sickness of the mind
So naw I aint a racist degenerate like 90% of trump supporters
Cook it has been my experience everyone is a racist to some degree. Some just more then others.
Remember when the Jews wanted to stone Mary Magdalene and Jesus told them he who is without sin throw the first stone. Everyone dropped their stones and she was let go.
The problem with these two geniuses is that they have probably encountered many from different races that don't like them. They assume that it's a race thing.
Remember when the Jews wanted to stone Mary Magdalene and Jesus told them he who is without sin throw the first stone. Everyone dropped their stones and she was let go
So, you base your idea that everyone is a racist on a work of fiction.
Remember when the Jews wanted to stone Mary Magdalene and Jesus told them he who is without sin throw the first stone. Everyone dropped their stones and she was let go
So, you base your idea that everyone is a racist on a work of fiction.
Oh, the Bible is fiction???? I'm outta here b4 I say shit i'll regret again..later..much later
Remember when the Jews wanted to stone Mary Magdalene and Jesus told them he who is without sin throw the first stone. Everyone dropped their stones and she was let go
So, you base your idea that everyone is a racist on a work of fiction.
Oak does not even believe in God. No wonder why his is messed up. I assume your mommy and daddy were the same way. I believe in God just won’t let religion get in the way of my fun. Go to church man cover the bases.
Yet the guy probably loves Muslems who are religious fanatics, hate gays and abuses women.
And no, not all black people have the same personality. I have had a lot of great interactions with people of all colors. But I would never let my kids walk in the ghettos of America which just happen to be predominantly black. Theres truths in stereotypes, thats how they exist in the first place and its not my job to be accepting or teach acceptance. Leave that up to someone else.
The federal prosecutor (a Trump appointee btw) must have had something pretty impressive. It's not easy to convince a judge to let you seize attorney-client materials.
You left out the part where he said we will make it up to them. Convient lack of memory right Hellen.
I feel safe in Bad neighborhoods. But I am different then most.
Hear the latest Trumps personal attorney had his house broken into by the fbi and they took what they want. No attorney client privilege any more I guess. He was corporating with them before they did that.
I told you don’t think the fbi our hero’s their not Hover would be proud.
Maybe we do need a civil war in this country.
I said this years ago the Russians took out weapons of mass destruction from Iraq brought them to Syria. This is just a guess don’t expect Assad to go on breathing for very long. I think he may have a fatal accident very soon.
Here is some of what liberals love and hate usually only when it suits them. Our military for years they been down sizing it now they love them.
They never minded adding to our debt now all of a sudden they hate adding to it.
So, no answer on how we will make it up to farmers? Any ideas on that?
I support free trade. If you look back at my pre Trump presidency posts here you can see i have always held this view. Is that a conservative, or a liberal position? Are you for free trade or are you a protectionist?
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They never minded adding to our debt now all of a sudden they hate adding to it.
Funny, I see the inverse by many people now.
I mean I get that you're a binary partisan, of course, but surely even you can understand that people are capable of having conservative views on some issues while having liberal views on others.
Helen said “I mean I get that you're a binary partisan, of course, but surely even you can understand that people are capable of having conservative views on some issues while having liberal views on others.â€
Now your talking I agree with you totally on that statement. I always felt that way in the past. But now things are completely different. It is not the same as it used to be. Not anymore unfortunately. Things are only going down hill from here I am afraid.
President Xi of china now wants to make condessions with the US regarding trade. Looks like Trumps tarrifs are working. The stock market seems to like it today.
Auto tariffs. Possibly. Which China had promised to lower back in November, they have been dropping them steadily over the past few years. So maybe they'll go a little lower. The Chinese play the long game, but no one expects China to cave. They'll just lighten some discriminatory practices. The Chinese approach to business is very different than the American approach, as is the Sino economic system
If they do, it's good news for a company like Tesla, that has no factories in China. For companies like GM, Ford, Chrysler, that already have Chinese factories that produce cars for the Chinese market it means nothing. They don't pay tariff on those cars.
Beijing filed a complaint with the WTO on the steel and aluminum tariffs.
The US would have a stronger hand vis-a-vis China if it had joined TPP and was confronting China not unilaterally but in concert with Japan and the 10 other nations who along with US constitute 40% of global economy.
Someone recently asked me if I thought Trump was stupid. I answered that he's not inherently stupid--he never could have been elected president if he were stupid. But, he's done stupid things as President. One of the dumbest was to fire FBI director Comey just as his investigation of Russian meddling in the election was getting close to the White House. Reason it was stupid: Trump's action invited a special prosecutor--and special prosecutors aren't in the business of exonerating the people they investigate. They get fame and fortune by convicting people. Mueller won't stop until he finds something to hang Trump with. His order to seize Trump's lawyer's records of payments of hush money to the porn star has the potential to lead to an impeachable offense.
Impeachment really hurt Clinton. Plus I just don’t see trump losing the house. So no impeachment will happen.
The reason why Clinton was impeached by republicans was because he promised the republican he would not shut down the government and then as a favor to the democrats he broke that promise.
Someone recently asked me if I thought Trump was stupid. I answered that he's not inherently stupid--he never could have been elected president if he were stupid. But, he's done stupid things as President. One of the dumbest was to fire FBI director Comey just as his investigation of Russian meddling in the election was getting close to the White House. Reason it was stupid: Trump's action invited a special prosecutor--and special prosecutors aren't in the business of exonerating the people they investigate. They get fame and fortune by convicting people. Mueller won't stop until he finds something to hang Trump with. His order to seize Trump's lawyer's records of payments of hush money to the porn star has the potential to lead to an impeachable offense.
james comey comparing PRESIDENT TRUMP to gravano is ridiculous. It shows what a lightweight comey is.
How did the Government ever think they could handle any U.S. organized crime individuals with people like comey in charge. It was a complete failure and they undermined the structure of inner cities.
The FBI became a shoplifter of American taxpayers funds and budgets for law enforcement, investing in the wrong markets.
Now on Mueller he is as fucked up as Comey. His whole staff was made up of people who hated trump. You mean to tell me he did not know that. If he did not know that he is inept. If he did he is out to get trump.
Now on the average American if they vote so that the democrats win the house. That means a good economy does not mean anything to them. If that happens they deserve what they get.
Knock on wood, my job is pretty much economy proof. Let it happen again. I can't wait to buy a house on the water next to nothing. Our country is thriving and prospering right now. To deny that, we'll go breath dine of that California air.
on Mother's Day.
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