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Posted By: BlackFamily

Tombstone - 04/09/16 05:20 AM

What could be done to lower the white homicides in our country? Each year thousands are slaughter due to domestic & criminal actions. Which area of the country have the most? What's the leading cause? Thoughts everybody.
Posted By: SgWaue86

Re: Tombstone - 04/09/16 08:27 AM

I don't understand, that being said I think members of the community being proactive when they notice something out of the ordinary or an individual displaying odd behavior, would help but, I think a lot of these crimes are done at a moments notice and are hard to predict. How many people are thinking oh I knew he/she was gonna snap and kill.
Posted By: Footreads

Re: Tombstone - 04/09/16 09:19 AM

I will answer this like it was a real question.

People in general who are not criminals think too much if they find themselves in trouble. They know something is not right then they hesitate instead of attacking. You let someone hit you first your fucked.

They wait until it's too late to do anything to save themselves because they think too much.

If they see something wrong it is wrong. Instead of letting it play out. Make up your mind to do something. Don't worry about what could happen to you if your wrong like being arrested. Instead worry about what could happen to you if your right.

You can retreat however you never want someone you don't know to get into your safer space. Extend your arms out in front of you. Anyone tries to get into that space you hit. In the throat, eyes, balls and don't stop until he is down and then get the fuck out of there
Posted By: Footreads

Re: Tombstone - 04/09/16 09:46 AM

Here is some more going some where not in a car. Don't wear your good stuff. Don't day dream, don't use your smart phone pay attention to what is going on around you. Don't make yourself an easy target. Going to a feast or a concert with a lot of people around, put your wallet in a pants front pocket. Put a rubber band around your wallet it's harder to lift doing that.

i did not like the way the original poster asked his question. He should have said to lower homicedes in general.
Posted By: BlackFamily

Re: Tombstone - 04/09/16 10:16 PM

@ SgWaue86

How you don't understand?
Yes , they should notify the authorities of strange behaviors or activities. It's difficult to spot domestic abuse at times due to behind closed doors privacy. Determining the mind state of a person welfare is near impossible to pick up on if they're giving a false persona.

@ Footreads

This question is reality. Your saying sharpen the senses and learn basic hand to hand combat per say. Not bad idea but we're living in a culture of cowardice or senseless shooters. It's always been there but seems to have increased over time.

How should I have ask the specific question ? You misspell homicides, just a minor mistake.
Posted By: BlackFamily

Re: Tombstone - 09/06/16 08:56 PM

Resurrection.
Posted By: SoCalGangs

Re: Tombstone - 09/07/16 08:23 PM

Maybe whites should start acting more like Asians and Jews ? That might help.
Posted By: BlackFamily

Re: Tombstone - 09/07/16 10:39 PM

Interesting point.

Yet, Asians generally kept silent while being victimized by their own and get overlooked heavily except California. Jews, aren't they under the white umbrella? confused
Posted By: helenwheels

Re: Tombstone - 09/07/16 11:03 PM

To regular people, yes. To Stormfront types no.

Ironically,given some of the racist posts on the board recently, neither are Italians
Posted By: BlackFamily

Re: Tombstone - 09/07/16 11:45 PM

Helen,

Neither are Italians uhwhat I didnt realize there's some people living in the 1910s mentality.
Posted By: SoCalGangs

Re: Tombstone - 09/07/16 11:50 PM

I'm not suggesting that Asians are perfect or anything or that all aspects of their culture should be emulated but if you have a group of people that has a lower crime and murder rate then it only makes sense to atleast explore what they might be doing right. They must be doing some things right.

As for Jews being white. Maybe so. But Wether they are or not, we can atleast say they're a distinct culture that's disproportionately successful seemingly almost wherever they are. There's all kinds of ideas and theories as to why, nothing set in stone. The overwhelming majority of whites are not Jews at all. Just makes sense to look into it. I also think that's why there's all this anti Jew anti-Semitic hatred and conspiracies about Jews being evil and taking over the world. I think it's based in jealousy of their success and wealth.
Posted By: helenwheels

Re: Tombstone - 09/07/16 11:51 PM

Hey BF- I hear you...

Some people will always need to look down on others. The rest of us will take people as we find them and see them as individuals.
Posted By: BlackFamily

Re: Tombstone - 09/08/16 01:44 AM

SoCal

Excellent point on observational & emulating characteristics of other cultures to lower crime. It might not work for every cultures.

Jews have genetated that success model over time. I notice, correct me if I'm wrong, that wasn't much presented during the world war eras. What percentage of Jews are living in or below poverty currently? How many Jews are homicide victims by other Jews per year? Compare those findings to the English, Irish. Italian, German, and othe white cultures.

Matter of fact English, Irish, & German makes up about 1/3 to 45% of the Whites collectively in this country. So are they the majority of suspects/victims among the Whites?
Posted By: BlackFamily

Re: Tombstone - 09/08/16 01:47 AM

Helen

I completely agree.
Posted By: Faithful1

Re: Tombstone - 09/08/16 02:23 AM

Originally Posted By: BlackFamily
SoCal

Excellent point on observational & emulating characteristics of other cultures to lower crime. It might not work for every cultures.

Jews have genetated that success model over time. I notice, correct me if I'm wrong, that wasn't much presented during the world war eras. What percentage of Jews are living in or below poverty currently? How many Jews are homicide victims by other Jews per year? Compare those findings to the English, Irish. Italian, German, and othe white cultures.

Matter of fact English, Irish, & German makes up about 1/3 to 45% of the Whites collectively in this country. So are they the majority of suspects/victims among the Whites?


There aren't stats on Jewish homicides in the U.S. Maybe you can find stats in Israel, but then those stats would include victims of terrorism.

If you want to look at the top ten causes of death in the United States broken down by age groups, race and sex, then the best source is this CDC report: http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr65/nvsr65_02.pdf
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Tombstone - 09/08/16 03:08 AM

Aren't Asians really serious, though? They don't seem to have fun. I believe there should be a balance. I always say, everyone should go on one mission to feed the poor, and spend one night in jail. Someone I know who went to UCLA said there were a lot of Asian exchange students that never left campus? Could you imagine that? Never went to the beach. Never went to Hollywood, Disneyland, a Dodger game. Nothing. Just campus. Studying. Watching tv. Studying. I don't care if it pays off. I don't care if they all ended up being millionaires. Still not worth it. Seems depressing as shit.

As far as Jews go, I don't know any. I live in Northern California.
Posted By: Faithful1

Re: Tombstone - 09/08/16 03:36 AM

I go over to USC in Los Angeles twice a week and there's plenty of Asians there and most of them look happy. They come from China, South Korea, Japan, the Philippines, Malaysia, etc. I think there's a lot to be said for deferred gratification because it usually pays off in the end. We don't share your opinion and don't see anything depressing about it.
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Tombstone - 09/08/16 04:36 AM

Oh, I'm sorry. I wasn't actually asking for any feedback. I was just formatting my point as a question.
Posted By: SoCalGangs

Re: Tombstone - 09/08/16 07:54 AM

Originally Posted By: BlackFamily
SoCal

Excellent point on observational & emulating characteristics of other cultures to lower crime. It might not work for every cultures.

Jews have genetated that success model over time. I notice, correct me if I'm wrong, that wasn't much presented during the world war eras. What percentage of Jews are living in or below poverty currently? How many Jews are homicide victims by other Jews per year? Compare those findings to the English, Irish. Italian, German, and othe white cultures.

Matter of fact English, Irish, & German makes up about 1/3 to 45% of the Whites collectively in this country. So are they the majority of suspects/victims among the Whites?


I don't think stats are available to break it down like that between the different white ethnicities.
Not sure what you mean about Jews during the world war eras. I just know many Jews escaped Europe for obvious reasons and many came with nothing and worked their way out of poverty within a generation. Pretty impressive, but I have read there's a study out supposedly showing there's still a 25% poverty rate among Jews in the NY. Sounds too high but I've not taken the time to really look into it to be honest, it was a headline that popped up after a Google search.
But yes they did generate this success model over a long period of time, generation to generation. There's lots of theories to explore.
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Tombstone - 09/08/16 08:08 AM

Jews are also very liberal politically. Big Democrat voters. Could be the drive to succeed combined with an understanding of how important government, infrastructure and basic services are to a civilization, unlike people that get rich, build a moat around their castle, and try to whittle away at every resource available to the poor. That's why it should come as no surprise that Donald Trump is not a Jew, and that Hillary Clinton is an honorary New York Jew.
Posted By: Faithful1

Re: Tombstone - 09/08/16 08:16 AM

Originally Posted By: OakAsFan
Oh, I'm sorry. I wasn't actually asking for any feedback. I was just formatting my point as a question.


Uh, so what? Last time I checked I didn't need your permission to post.
Posted By: SoCalGangs

Re: Tombstone - 09/08/16 08:17 AM

Voting for a particular party doesn't make you succeed. Otherwise Blacks and Hispanics would be just as economically successful if that was the driving force. Makes no sense whatsoever. A lot of Jews seem to be guilt ridden about their success and wealth so they vote democrat because it makes them feel or look like they care for poor people.

It isn't how you vote, it's things you do in your personal life.
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Tombstone - 09/08/16 06:40 PM

Just pointing out they're mostly liberal. I wasn't the one who brought up characteristics of Jews, and that we should study them or whatever to see why they're so successful. Just pointing out one of those characteristics.
Posted By: SoCalGangs

Re: Tombstone - 09/08/16 06:49 PM


And I'm just pointing out why their party affiliations and political leanings are likely the least important factor in their success.

Originally Posted By: OakAsFan
Jews are also very liberal politically. Big Democrat voters. Could be the drive to succeed combined with an understanding of how important government, infrastructure and basic services are to a civilization, unlike people that get rich, build a moat around their castle, and try to whittle away at every resource available to the poor. That's why it should come as no surprise that Donald Trump is not a Jew, and that Hillary Clinton is an honorary New York Jew.
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Tombstone - 09/08/16 07:03 PM

I disagree. Some people are motivated by their own greed, others are motivated by the idea that the world should and could be a better place. A lot of people go into business with this concept. I don't know a lot of Jews personally, but the ones in the public eye, the ones I've read about, seem to have the latter philosophy. Their success is everyone's success. That plays into the liberal ideology that most Jews have.
Posted By: SoCalGangs

Re: Tombstone - 09/08/16 07:17 PM

Originally Posted By: OakAsFan
I disagree. Some people are motivated by their own greed, others are motivated by the idea that the world should and could be a better place. A lot of people go into business with this concept. I don't know a lot of Jews personally, but the ones in the public eye, the ones I've read about, seem to have the latter philosophy. Their success is everyone's success. That plays into the liberal ideology that most Jews have.


What incredible thing to say. Your assumption is simply that Left leaning voters have a philosophy that the world should be a better place and by default everyone else is only motivated by greed. As if those are the only two choices.

And yes people do go into business with the concept to help other people in the world. Jews do very well in a market economy. Despite how they vote.
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Tombstone - 09/08/16 07:22 PM

Originally Posted By: SoCalGangs
Your assumption is simply that Left leaning voters have a philosophy that the world should be a better place and by default everyone else is only motivated by greed. As if those are the only two choices.


That is not my assumption, nor did I post that.
Posted By: SoCalGangs

Re: Tombstone - 09/08/16 08:35 PM

Originally Posted By: OakAsFan
Originally Posted By: SoCalGangs
Your assumption is simply that Left leaning voters have a philosophy that the world should be a better place and by default everyone else is only motivated by greed. As if those are the only two choices.


That is not my assumption, nor did I post that.


My apologies if I misinterpreted what you were trying to say.

Your post was in response to mine where I argue their voting patterns are the least likely factor in their success. You disagree and go on to talk about the liberal ideology of wanting the world to be a better place as opposed to greed motivated people. A common assumption among a lot of Leftists is that anyone that disagrees with their ideology on fixing the world must just be greedy,evil, selfish people that only care about themselves and hate poor people which is ridiculous.
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Tombstone - 09/08/16 11:25 PM

Wow. Just, wow. I mean, you are the one who wanted to have this round table discussion on why Jews are successful. Not only do I agree with the sentiment, I also offer what I believe are the reasons for it, and I guess this must have really struck a nerve with you. Were you really trying to start a discussion on Jewish success in America, or were you just soliciting for arguments that confirm your opinions on the matter?
Posted By: SoCalGangs

Re: Tombstone - 09/09/16 12:00 AM

I welcome the discussion but I'm free to disagree and critique your reasoning if needed . Having a discussion doesn't mean everyone has to agree with you or me.

maybe I jumped the gun with your last post and misinterpreted it with your comments about greed motivated people vs. Jews with a liberal ideology, but I still think attributing Jewish success to Leftist ideology hasn't been backed with a convincing enough argument.
Posted By: BlackFamily

Re: Tombstone - 09/09/16 12:13 AM

SoCal

What I meant was that success trend wasn't that presence during those years. Like you answered, It become more on display generations later. Also think it's particularly interesting that there's hardly any ethnic stats breakdown. Same can be said for the Black umbrella.
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Tombstone - 09/09/16 01:03 AM

Originally Posted By: SoCalGangs
maybe I jumped the gun with your last post and misinterpreted it with your comments about greed motivated people vs. Jews with a liberal ideology,


Interesting, considering you're still misinterpreting what I posted.
Posted By: SoCalGangs

Re: Tombstone - 09/09/16 05:02 AM

How so? Certainly not intentionally.
Posted By: BlackFamily

Re: Tombstone - 09/10/16 04:12 PM

@ Me or Oakasfan?
Posted By: SoCalGangs

Re: Tombstone - 09/10/16 04:30 PM

Originally Posted By: BlackFamily
@ Me or Oakasfan?


Oakasfan.
Posted By: Giacomo_Vacari

Re: Tombstone - 10/17/16 11:18 AM

Juws are split on the political platform. Mainly due to what sect they belong to. One party does not control the Juws vote. Let me break it down for you a little, those that find Israel a giant asshole in the middle east, tend to vote Democratic. Those that find Israel does nothing wrong and is doing right tend to vote Republican. That is not an totally accurate picture, but it depends on what part of the country you are talking about.
Whites are killed a lot more common then people think, the difference is usually it is someone they know. Blacks and Hispanic are more often killed by strangers then by someone they know.
However, a black or Hispanic person is more likely to be killed by a cop, then a white person is. Are you going off law enforcement statistics? Cause if you are, then that data is not accurate as most departments don't keep data.
Posted By: BlackFamily

Re: Tombstone - 10/18/16 12:47 AM

I think the case for Black & Latino is the same for being a victim to someone they know. Your right on the whites are killed more often than people think it's just now currently it's spread out across counties.
Posted By: sbhc

Re: Tombstone - 10/19/16 02:28 AM

Aren't whites and hispanics stats taken as one. Technically they're both 'Caucasian'.

The FBI stats for black homicide is utterly insane. 13% of the population committing 52% of the murders per annum. Now take woman, children and the elderly out of that. It's so sad.
Posted By: BlackFamily

Re: Tombstone - 10/19/16 03:19 AM

Yes and No.

Hispanic/Latino have there own category and yet it's quite discombobulated as well. Hispanic are split by their skin tone as well, light skinned gets couple with whites while darker tones with Blacks. Also , West Indians, African Nationalities, and Mixed Black are added into the equation as well.

Therefore the stats for everyone is mischewed by multiple factors in which deductions are required. Nonetheless this is about the 48-52% homicides committed by Whites that are reported.
Posted By: BlackFamily

Re: Tombstone - 10/26/16 01:17 AM

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kerry-coddett/white-on-white-crime-an-u_b_6771878.html

Hmm....
Posted By: SoCalGangs

Re: Tombstone - 10/26/16 04:51 AM



Where are they getting the stats that whites commit 53% of the gang related killings? I assume the author is lumping "Hispanic /Latino" people into the white category to get that number.
Posted By: IvyLeague

Re: Tombstone - 10/26/16 05:27 AM

Originally Posted By: SoCalGangs


Where are they getting the stats that whites commit 53% of the gang related killings? I assume the author is lumping "Hispanic /Latino" people into the white category to get that number.


That's exactly what they're doing. Not shocking coming from a left wing site like The Huffington Pist.
Posted By: BlackFamily

Re: Tombstone - 10/27/16 02:13 AM

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/07/white-flight-alive-and-well/399980/
Posted By: Faithful1

Re: Tombstone - 10/27/16 02:52 AM

Originally Posted By: Giacomo_Vacari
Juws are split on the political platform. Mainly due to what sect they belong to. One party does not control the Juws vote. Let me break it down for you a little, those that find Israel a giant asshole in the middle east, tend to vote Democratic. Those that find Israel does nothing wrong and is doing right tend to vote Republican. That is not an totally accurate picture, but it depends on what part of the country you are talking about.
Whites are killed a lot more common then people think, the difference is usually it is someone they know. Blacks and Hispanic are more often killed by strangers then by someone they know.
However, a black or Hispanic person is more likely to be killed by a cop, then a white person is. Are you going off law enforcement statistics? Cause if you are, then that data is not accurate as most departments don't keep data.


What's with the spelling of Jews as "Juws"?
Posted By: olivant

Re: Tombstone - 10/27/16 03:39 AM

Keep in mind that it wasn't until 2013 that the Department of Justice crime statistics began to segregate Hispanics instead of including them in the White category.

So, Whites commit 43% of violent crimes, Blacks 22%, and Hispanics 15%. Compare these figures with the White population at about 64%, Blacks at 13.5%, and Hispanics at 17%. Also, black on White violent crime exceeds 500,00 while White on Black violent crime is under 100,000.

What is really scary is that Black men make up just about 6% of the US population. You can figure that it is that 6% that commits most of the 22% above.

Posted By: BlackFamily

Re: Tombstone - 10/27/16 04:20 AM

1, They should of been separate from the beginning of these demographic recordings.

2. Pointing out Black on White as if the majority is some form of hate crimes is lacking in both substantial sources & history.

3. What's is more scary is psychological views.

4. Are you going to overlook the fact a White person is more than likely to be killed by another white than any other ethnicity? confused
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