Pizzaboy

I'm sorry if this is common knowledge but I've noticed pizza been gone a long time now. Anybody knows if he will be back on the forum soon?

No. Weird topic.

It's gonna be awhile. He was arrested for attending some meeting.

It's not a weird topic. I appreciate and miss his posts

We buried him, on a hill, overlooking a little river; with pine cones all around.

In all seriousness, i'm sure he's fine. Probably dealing with family matters, that's all.

Yes, I noticed he hasn't posted in awhile. Hope he's okay.

We've had a couple issues in the past but, PB is awesome. Hurry back to your GF Family.

Hey 116_street change your name to east a Hun 16 street that is how east Harlem guys say it.

Pizza is a business man he is probably just doing business. Not all of us have a lot of time on our hands.

Hopefully he'll be back soon, he is one of the better contributors..

He's sleeping with the fishes.

Both of you are f'd up for joking like that!!

Not funny. Disrespectful. But you're a [bad word] mother [bad word] so of course you have to say shit like this.

Miss you friend.

Alfanosgirl

How is that disrespectful? It's a humorous comment without the slightest hint of malice or animosity.

Pizzaboy wears his heart on his sleeve but he also has a sense of humor.

I don't think he would get hung up over it so I don't know why you are?

Ah, go eat a hotdog(no bun) with a side of meatballs!






Exactly!!!...Even tho you're a "WingNut" , couldn't have said it any better.

^^^^
I have been enjoying one every day this week. My hubby is home on vacation.

Maybe Pizza would find it humorous. I cannot speak for him. All I know is that it comes off as disrespectful in my book and I'm not going to let anyone say shit like that about him.

He's probably....



delivering some pizzas.

I'm afraid it's some issues with folks close to him, that's all I'll say. Most probably know what I mean. I hope I'm wrong and I haven't verified this so don't take it as gospel.

I do miss his posts as well. He really is a great guy and has never given me shit even though I'm just a dumb hick from the South and I've respected him big time for that.

Didn't he just make the baseball Hall of Fame? He's busy writing his induction speech that's all.



Agree with AG about certain things probably best not being joked about.

I think his friends are more offended than he would be because he can bust balls with the best of them. And when he posts something funny, you look at the current avatar (of Coach from Cheers) and it's 20 times funnier. I can imagine him at a roast just destroying the guest.




Pizza, the real life Dos Equis.

NICE comeback, AG!


Ah-Beetz knows he's "ALL ACES" in my book...Hope all is well, paisan!

Yeah, I remember him talking about his family before. I just hope that he is fine, and everything is going as well as they can be. I might be in the same situation as he is at the moment, and I just give him well wishes.

Nice job G

Your right, all cool Ace.

Maybe PB is just chillin , riding out the blizzard in Class down in FLA, he deserves it and his time away.

All the best PB

Look how great he is bringing us all together and he is not even here, he would like it.

Duc that snow PB, hope all well.

Someone kill this thread please.

If PB, posts he posts this shit is embarrassing.

One time, a while ago when PB was suspended someone commented that "Pizzaboy is Gangsternet" and I think that is pretty accurate. He always contributed things that seemed very timely and accurate. I believe his father was suffering medical issues. I do hope he will return

He is in a fight for duel citizenship right now.

PB was having issues with his Dad...maybe. We should respect his absence. He'll be back on his time. Hope all is well PB.

It was weird when it was posted on the OC board.

I think we all miss PB's posts. He's great to have on the boards, and a good guy.

agree to disagree but agree

we miss ya around here PB! hope to talk to ya soon!

He didn't come when he was called. He didn't do nothin' else wrong.

It could be that PB has gone into the Board Poster Protection Program like Kly and Babe.

Don't tell me they have turned states evidence!

The psuedo-eye-talians have been exposed!

could have been involved in a bad accident

Mmmmm,they told me a story,I knew why it was bein' done...

This is gettin' morbid & scary..fuck this thread, end this now.

We will hear from him, once he gets a Hole in One or hits a Superfecta at Gulfstream.

Good Luck P

I speak with him. He's fine. Been very busy. Appreciates everyone's well wishes.

@pizzaboy - Come back soon, my brother. You are sincerely missed.

Agreed! Hope no one died in his family. That is time consuming......

He posted in the Bellomo thread today. Hopefully he is able to post more now.

Wishing you and your family the very best Pizza. Hope you're well. You are missed my friend.

Thank you, Beans.

The truth of the matter is, I had a heart attack a little over two months ago, and it was very much stress related. I'm going to be fine, but it was touch and go for awhile. But I can't get myself stressed out. That's why I have to lay off the boards for awhile. As a matter of fact, we're going to head south next week after all. Not Florida, though. A place where I can completely disconnect and recharge my batteries. So after today or tomorrow, you guys won't hear from me again for another month or so. But I'll be back, as strong and stubborn as ever, so don't worry.

On a MUCH happier note, my Dad made such a comeback, that it's now HE driving ME to medical appointments. Now, ain't that some shit? .

Thanks for the well wishes, folks. Again, you guys humble me, and I'm grateful for that. And life is about gratitude. Don't ever forget that.

PB

Glad you're ok, PB. And, glad about your father. Rest up, be well.

Great. Take care.

I don't post here much but read the site everyday and when I visited the site today and saw that PB posted today I couldn't click on the subject quick enough to see what he posted. Glad to see him post a few "comeback" posts.

Take care of yourself bro, the heart stuff is no joke! Come on down South and enjoy the crazy weather

Mud bug season is coming up, isn't it?

Glad to see you back PB and very sorry to hear of your bad health, i wish you a speedy recovery. Take care down south.

Good to see you, PB! Sorry to hear, and good to hear. Take care of yourself, first and foremost!

Take care of yourself, PB. Because, you know:

I know the Mets loss took a toll in me also jk.

I'm sorry you are having these issues, glad to hear you are doing better. All the best, get well man.

Welcome back PB!

Please take care of the ol' ticker, and very happy to read the good news about your father.


Signor V.

+1

So sorry to hear about your recent health troubles Pizzaboy. But am glad to learn that your dad is doing better.

Rest up and get better. If you need some laughs, and who doesn't, keep watching our curmudgeon hero Larry David do those Bernie Sanders impersonations.

PB,

I'm so sorry to hear it. Take care of yourself. Get well soon.




TIS

Get well pal . Philadelphia

Yep, next month!

Be well Sir, all the best.

I hope your getting better and I am very happy your father is doing well.

I don't like talking about death and illness. With me I hate that I had a few instances of illness it just made me feel helpless. I don't like felling not in control.

When I am in the hospital I don't want anyone to come and visit me. Not my wife not my kids no one. When a doctor tells me I did not have to be on IV any more and can move to regular medicine. I leave that minute. I left 3 o'clock in the morning. Nurse would tell me I can't leave I have to wait in the morning I tell them fuck you I am leaving now.

It was winter time I only had a pair of shorts I pulled the IV out and a catheter out and left.
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Another time I got shot my doctor wanted me to do recovery work. I told him I would do it as an out patient. He told me to forget that. I had to reason with him before he would let me leave.

I hate hospitals one time a one time friend came to visit me a soccer coach. I never told him not to come because I never thought he would visit me. After 3 minutes I told him thank you goodbye.

Be well PB....

Any word on PB? It's been awhile since we heard anything from him. Hope he's doing well. If anyone is in contact with him please send him my regards and best wishes. The very best to you and your family PB!

Been a long time since I posted here, But PB was always one of my favourite posters.

Speedy recovery.

Whisper! Good to see you back... even for a minute. Hope all is well and you stick around.

I echo the well wishes for pizzaboy. Come back real soon, my brother!

Sending My Best wishes..

pizzaboy, I hope you are kicked back, happy, relaxed, tanned and healthy enjoying a cold beverage and a great Mets game!

(Unless they are playing the Cubs or White Sox, of course!)

God bless you, buddy. Come back soon!

I thought of Pizzaboy the other day after my cleaning lady told me she is from Frogs Neck Bronx. He's been gone along time and we all miss him. That must have been one hell of a debilitating heart attack to cause him to be out this long.

Frogs neck? You mean throgs neck right?

If anyone knows how to get in touch with him tell him to come to East Harlem on Sunday August 14 at I pm just outside of Rao's and we can lift the Giglio together.

Got my friend Lou going to be there and Genie boy from a Hun 9 street. Who knows even Johnny might show up.

Make sure your guns have bullets dipped in pigs blood just in case.

Pizzaboy was certain Hilary wouldn't be elected President.

It's either Hilary or Donald now.

I wonder if he is still so confident?

I still think The D is the lesser of two evils though.

No idea why anyone would be certain Hilary wouldn't win, she was always the favorite.

Not trying to pick a fight with someone who isn't here to defend himself, but again, Hilary was always most likely to win.

Donald is a fucking racist, clown, crook, sociopath, and Bernie never had a true chance.

You actually know Thrump no one who does ever said he was a racist not even Rivera. A clown with 10 billion dollars. Mighty do you even have a million? Even I have more then that. Crook who isn't a crook hilliary certainly is. Sociopath Thrump bull shit.

Bernie never was a democrat he lied about that he always was a socialist and so is Obama.

Donald Trump has been in the public eye for over 30 years and he was never once accused of being a racist by anyone until he decided to run against the Democrats.

REVIEW
Thomas Jefferson’s Qur’an
By Juliane Hammer | April 9, 2014

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Thomas Jefferson’s Qur’an: Islam and the Founders
By Denise A. Spellberg
Alfred A. Knopf, 2013
On January 3, 2007, Rep. Keith Ellison, a Democrat from Minnesota, took his symbolic oath of office with his hand on a two-volume English translation (by George Sale) of the Qur’an. It was no ordinary copy of the Qur’an but rather the one owned by Thomas Jefferson, one of the founding fathers and third president of the United States. Ellison had planned to take the oath with a Qur’an and was alerted to the existence of this particular one in a letter from a constituent. When he announced his decision, controversy erupted. In response, Ellison told the Associated Press that the fact that Jefferson owned a Qur’an “demonstrates that from the very beginning of our country, we had people who were visionary, who were religiously tolerant, who believed that knowledge and wisdom could be gleaned from any number of sources, including the Quran.” He added, “A visionary like Thomas Jefferson was not afraid of a different belief system. This just shows that religious tolerance is the bedrock of our country, and religious differences are nothing to be afraid of.”
It is this same sentiment that permeates Denise A. Spellberg’s new book, Thomas Jefferson’s Qur’an: Islam and the Founders. In it, Spellberg offers a meticulously researched and incredibly detailed account not only of how Jefferson came to acquire a copy of the Qur’an in English but also of the broader historical circumstances of his political career and the role of religion in the period of the founding fathers. Spellberg develops a nuanced and insightful analysis of the seemingly contradicting attitudes towards Islam and Muslims displayed by Jefferson and his contemporaries as represented in historical records. The conundrums she sets out to explore are the following: Why did the founding fathers include the theoretical possibility of Muslims not only as citizens of the United States but as federal office holders (including the presidency) in their deliberations on the one hand, while demonstrating decidedly negative views of Islam (and Muslim political adversaries overseas) on the other? Is the inclusion of Muslims as the farthest edge of political possibility more than a rhetorical tool for defining that same edge? Was Islam recognized as a legitimate religion, together with and beyond Judaism and Catholicism, in a young country that seemed to assume Protestantism as its foundation? What could Jefferson’s musings about Islam and his ownership of a Qur’an tell us about the negotiation of religion(s) in the realm of American politics?
Spellberg provides a broad historical frame for her inquiry. She starts in the early sixteenth century and spends her first two chapters on the development of European attitudes towards Islam, both negative and positive, to then reflect on how such European attitudes were carried as well as renegotiated on their passage to America. She establishes the existence of an, albeit fringe, movement for the political toleration of followers of Islam and early discussions of freedom of religious practice in New England. A curious play by Voltaire about the Prophet Muhammad, written as a critique of French politics, appears on stage in the late eighteenth century in North America, performed on both sides of the Revolutionary War. The 1797 novel The Algerine Captive, by Royall Tyler, takes up the captivity experiences of Americans in North Africa, but, according to Spellberg, provides a representation of Muslims and a reading of Islam so sympathetic that the author feels pressured to apologize. European and American Protestant thinkers argue for the separation of religion from government affairs and John Locke appears as a predecessor to Jefferson in both his interest in Islam and his ideas about toleration of religious minorities. Spellberg demonstrates the longer history of debates about secularism and religion on the one hand, and the toleration of Muslims in Europe, transported and rethought in America on the other.
The central chapters of the book follow a more or less chronological structure and trace Jefferson’s political career from 1765 to 1823. Spellberg lays out how Jefferson came to acquire a copy of the Sale translation of the Qur’an, which significantly contained an introduction, written by Sale, to Muslim history and law. She juxtaposes Jefferson’s negative views of Islam with his early arguments for Muslim civil rights and presents the tension between this latter argument and the presence of West African Muslim slaves which, by virtue of their racial classification and their status as unfree members of society, would not have been included in Jefferson’s consideration of Muslims as potential citizens. Jefferson and John Adams appear as political rivals in negotiations over North African piracy—talks which Jefferson carried out in part with the Tunisian ambassador in London. Spellberg emphasizes that Jefferson wanted to define the piracy problem and the ensuing conflict with North African states in explicitly political and economic terms and avoided reference to religion at all cost.
Around 1788, in the discussions leading up to the final form of the U.S. Constitution, Muslims, or at least imagined Muslim citizens, became a point of debate in regards to the religious oaths required of political office holders. Those opposed to Protestantism as the de-facto state religion argued for the inclusion of Catholics, Jews, and Muslims as political leaders; some even pushed for full religious inclusion and political equality for religious minorities. Those in favor of Protestant privilege warned of the dangers of non-Protestant infiltration and the resulting changes in the character of the United States. Spellberg’s chapter “Could a Muslim be President?” ends with the somewhat curious inclusion of the stories of two prominent African Muslim slaves, Abdul Rahman Ibrahima (or Ibrahima Abd al-Rahman, d. 1829) and Omar ibn Said (d. 1863). Spellberg presents them as a reminder of the presence of “real” Muslims in America, invisible and without rights, at the very same time that Jefferson and the founding fathers were discussing the hypothetical presence of American Muslims and their potential claims to political office. The last of four chapters on Jefferson discuss his continued, mostly negative references to Islam, and their connection to the ongoing conflict with Tripoli, as well as the ways in which Islam, the Prophet Muhammad, and Muslim despotism become points of reference in American political discourse, namely insults hurled at political opponents. Spellberg asserts that “Jefferson’s position on Muslim rights and potential for citizenship remained consistent from his days as a law student in the 1760s until the end of his life.”
The book contains an afterword that points to the continued significance of the questions at hand. Spellberg takes up the contemporary relevance of Muslim citizenship and political office and offers a cursory contemporary history, which includes: recent attacks on Muslim civil rights after 9/11, hate crimes against Muslims, insistent claims that Barack Obama is a Muslim, as well as the debate over Rep. Ellison’s swearing-in ceremony, and the controversy over the Park51 mosque and community center project in New York City. The list Spellberg offers closely resembles one posted on the ACLU website, which defends the protection of religious freedom for Muslims in the United States. The ACLU goes on to state: “We must always—especially in times of controversy—vigilantly uphold our core values. When we violate one group’s freedom, everyone’s liberty is at stake. And the ACLU will continue to defend the civil rights of everyone in our country.” Spellberg ends her book with a similar plea: “Any attack upon the rights of Muslim citizens should be recognized for what it remains: an assault upon the universal ideal of civil rights promised all believers at the country’s founding.”
Spellberg’s book demonstrates the depth as well as breadth of the research task she performed since 2005 when she first developed an interest in Jefferson’s Qur’an. The book contains meticulous footnotes and a wide array of primary and secondary sources and Spellberg does not shy away from alternative readings and conclusions of archival sources where she disagrees with existing scholarship. As a fellow Islamic studies scholar, though one who has focused on contemporary Muslim communities in the United States for some time, I admire Spellberg’s foray into unfamiliar territory (she self-identifies in the introduction as a “specialist in Islamic history”) and appreciate her willingness to connect her field of interest, Islam, with American constitutional history. Her training as an Islamicist makes it all the more surprising that one of my major concerns with her book is her repeated and insistent essentialization of Islam. Time and again, she juxtaposes correct understandings of Islam—which lack nuance and tend toward the idea that there is a recognizable and distinct entity called Islam—with incorrect or false understandings displayed by Jefferson and others. It becomes the most glaring (and disturbing) when Spellberg discusses Jefferson’s encounter with Abd al-Rahman, the Tripolitan ambassador to London. Abd al-Rahman is quoted referencing the Qur’an to support Tripoli’s expectation that the U.S. would pay in return for protection from pirate attacks, arguing that Islamic law required such treatment of others from Muslims. In the following pages, Spellberg, rather than reflecting on why the ambassador deemed it appropriate to use references to the Qur’an and Islamic law as political arguments, lays out a framework for jihad and peace in Islam that appears universal and even suggests which other Qur’anic passages the ambassador could and should have referred to instead. The same essentialism is also at work in the indiscriminate use of the word “Islamic” in many places where “Muslim” would be more appropriate and indicative of a nuanced discussion of normative claims and analytical statements.
My second “e” of concern (after essentialism) is exceptionalism: Spellberg focuses on Islam as the very edge of religious inclusion which raises both concern about what that might mean for Hindus, Buddhists, and others as citizens and holders of political office. It also omits the many ways in which the debates about Muslims and Islam were interconnected with and indeed interdependent on debates about Jews as well as Catholics. To be sure, there are glimpses of those debates and the book is focused on Islam, but this focus makes it necessary to reach elsewhere for the parallel (and different stories) of Jews, Catholics, and others as part of the American polity.
My last “e” is concern about Spellberg’s rather uncritical enthusiasm for the founding fathers and founding principles of the United States. The underlying argument for the book is the assumption, reflected in Ellison’s statement above as well, that all the United States needs is a good and solid look at its own history in order to be the best it can be. The political and totally naturalized liberalism at work here certainly makes the book appealing to a broader political spectrum, and indeed, at times it reads like a plea to those who want to exclude Muslims from civil rights and citizenship, but it severely limits the possibility for political critique. If all we can ask and struggle for is to go back to the founding ideals, then we are limiting the possibility of change and stifle the range of critical expansions in many directions. Bearing this in mind, this reviewer, perhaps too optimistically, hopes that the book can do its part to move those who need it most.
Juliane Hammer is associate professor and Kenan Rifai Scholar of Islamic Studies in the Department of Religious Studies at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.

Donald Trump is now being accused of being a racist because he says racist things.

Not everything can be blamed on the Democrats.

Footreads, Donald Trump is a crook because he has constantly looted and bankrupted his own companies. He should have been indicted for his activities in Atlantic City decades ago.

Also, Barack lied about being a Democrat because he's actually a Socialist?

Honestly, what the fuck does that even mean? He was the Democratic nominee for President. He won the Presidency as a Democrat.

You realize you can have Democratic-Socialist leanings and be a Democrat, right? Those terms are not mutually exclusive. Was LBJ a Democrat? Was FDR a Democrat?

Here is Donald Trump being racist in 1989:

"On May 1, 1989, Donald J. Trump took out full-page advertisements in four New York newspapers calling for the return of the death penalty. Mr. Trump said he wanted the ''criminals of every age'' who were accused of beating and raping a jogger in Central Park 12 days earlier ''to be afraid.''

They were not guilty, by the way.

I am so happy Trump is showing his true colors and rapidly falling in his polls. This board might be a right wing cesspool, but the majority of Americans don't like Trump. Sorry guys. The dream is over. You can vote for your preferred nutjob in 2020.

Man, look at all these Democrats calling Trump out for his bullshit:

Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) Tuesday said Trump's criticisms of Curiel are "the textbook definition of racist comments" and should be "absolutely disavowed."

BUT THE DEMOCRATS!!

MH,

good points.

The thing about racism is often not what is said, but what isn't said. Around the same time the Central park jogger case happened, some teens in Glen Ridge NJ....raped a retarded girl and used broomsticks,etc.

Not a peep from Trump or any of the other people who were rightfully outraged by the rape of the CPJ. No full page ads, no cries for justice, none of this "outrage"

It's the inconsistency people have that really points to their biases more so than comments about specific events.

*Glen Ridge dudes who raped the girl were found guilty and convicted.

How did a discussion of PB and his absence from the Board turn into a discussion of the presidential election? Well, since it has, consider this:

Above there is a post about US House Representative Keith Ellison taking his oath of office on the Qu'ran. No such event took place as described above. Before taking their respective seat in the House, a Representative simply stands in the well of the House and states their intention to abide by the US Constitution as required by Article VI of the Constitution. That's what Representative Ellison did. Andre Carson of Indiana did the same thing.

Now, let's get back to PB. PB, where are you?

maybe hes had enough of this site, he had been here 9 yrs I believe, he might be on another site,

That is not true first he doesn't really start those businesses. People come to him and ask to use his name on their business. He sells his brand name.

If you start your own businesses not all of them will succeed. If your a good business man most of them succeed. So your going to dig up the few that did not and make a talking point about them.

What I don't like about him. He falls for the questions the press try's to set him up with. If it was me and someone try to set me up on tv. First I would go with a recording device so I can recorded everything they said. So they can't do an editing job on what I actually said. Plus I would tell the reported what he said that was bull shit and tell him or her to fuck their father.

Yes, I remember that sure it wasn't them it was some friends of there's. When a gang does a job on someone. What they take off them gets handed off to others in the gang. So when they get picked up they don't have anything on them. She could not identify them they almost killed her.

You know that is how they get away with shit like this.

i never was a believer in having to get revenge on the actual person who do these things. Get some one who is close to them.

I remember that to find out if anything happen to them in prison. Pretty sure they probably got the same treatment in prison.

Hope your doing well PB

Same here PB. You're missed.

Yes funny convos. I will be heading to the bronx after finding out bronx zoo is biggezt in usa i loved the san diego zoo. So me an my girl will be down ct then there rettg soon.

I hope he will be able to relax now and eventually come back here! Take care until then.

PB is probably too excited about season 9 of "curb your enthusiasm" being announced to even think about this place

Hope all is well, PB...

Can I buy that record? I want to put it on my I pad.

Yes you can only 99 cents.

I have it with eh cumpare

I feel like ordering a Sicilian pizza now. Haha but they are not open yet shit. I hate having to wait I got to do something about that.

That is great NJ! I think Pizzaboy would have answered like this:

Good one Beans lol.

"Almost 57", here is one of your songs by Jimmy R. Hopefully, I'll have the sound clearer in the other song but I'm not having much luck. To be cont'd ...

https://youtu.be/qPdwPqlfwZ8


Miss you friend.

Pizzaboy is probably going to move to Canada if Hillary gets elected.

hello, moe, I don't think it matters whos elected, it may be time for everyone to clear out..........

Ok Pizza, I know you're reading this. Don't you think it's time to drop by and say hi to everyone? Hmmm?

Pizzaboy is good people, a family man. He'll come back on when he's good and ready. and from all the bs that has gone on with posters and pizza, if he doesn't come back, i don't blame him.

not really, pizzaboy made himself a good living...hes retired and living the good life

That's the story going around. However, didn't he disappear about the same time as Trump emerged on the scene? Just sayin'!

maybe he is going to law school.

He doesn't need to

I wonder if Pizza misses us. Who is he giving advice to now? How many times did he mention he's "Almost 57".

I bet right now he is telling some young kid this:

Take it from a guy who's lived in this neighborhood his whole life. I'm "Almost 57" and I've seen it all. You're just a kid and I don't mean that in a bad way but you weren't even born back then. So I'd quit while you're ahead, buddy.

there is a place on this site where they have pics of members
they have had reunions, have seen the pics, cant find one as pizzaboy, has anyone ever seen him? has anyone ever talked to him on the phone, he comes on this site with all his knowledge and then all of a sudden, poof................

what do you think is up A,G,

Binnie, I'd go by what he posted on this thread. He's taking a much needed break to get his health back on track. As far as your other questions, sorry I don't have any answers.

As I posted above, PB seemingly departed the Board just about the time that Trump emerged as a political figure. I'm not one to adhere to conspiracy theories, but is it possible that PB had some information that would incriminate Trump and thus .... well, it's just a theory.

well, you were always his favorite, and he said many times

that you had more knowledge than the guys thought, and he was really mad when you got put down, caramel that insulting

jerk had put you down, and P.B. jumped all over him, he really, really liked you, everybody does, including me.

hope he comes back, he loved posting with you.

I always liked the guy. He seemed like a gentleman to me and he told some cool stories and always gave factual info. Just a good dude all around.

I'm sure you'll join me in saying that the boards are not the same without PB.

I must have missed Pizzaboy. I see he's very popular. I don't know much about him but I noticed he has Nick Colasanto as his profile pic. That's a good start.

Recovery from a heart attack doesn't usually take this long. I wonder if there is another issue we don't know about or even if he is still with us?

That's pretty morbid.

Yes, that was a HORRIBE thing to say, bigboy!! If there was an award on here for "Gavone of the Week", you'd win it with that comment you made!

Never happened. Stop making shit up. Ask AG yourself i've never once had a problem with her here, actually i've barely even spoken to her. And the only problem i ever had with PB was a very minor thing that we sorted in PM's when i just joined, years before you were even on the site.

caramel, you are the most insulting person on this site, the times you have torn into me I cant count. I have one thing to say to you, I don't know if you heard S,C, warning, but, he made it clear that personal attacks will get you banned,

I don't believe I am the only one who has a problem with you.
I do not make thing up, sorry.....................

You obviously did make it up because it absolutely didn't happen. If it did show me the posts? Didn't think so because it didn't happen. If you don't want me to talk to you then don't mention and make shit up about me. Simple.

ok. like I said, I remember pb saying something to you,

as to reading your posts, and conversing with you. I think not.

goodbye.

You could've at least owned up to the fact that if you didn't make it up then you were mistaken since it didn't happen. Whatever tho.

I didn't mean to sound like an ass with my comment about Pizzaboy. I am really a big fan of his for the same reasons others have mentioned. I am now dealing with cancer for the second time so maybe look at death a little differently than many of you. I have to think about it every day. My apologizes if I offended anyone.

You didn't sound like an ass at all, Bigboy.

I wish you well.

Sorry to hear this bigboy. Stay strong and wishing you well.

BigBoy,

Don't remember why, but for some reason you're on my ignore list.
I'll follow Pizza's lead when he challenged us all to be men and put down petty grievances.

If you kicked cancer's ass once, you can do it again. Keep your spirits up. Not your time to go yet.

I think your comment may have been taken the wrong way. People come and go on these forums and we don't know who they are in real life. There was a poster named Lilo who wrote a lot about "Game of Thrones" then stopped posting two years ago. I wonder about him. None of us hope for the worst on anyone.

Likewise, I wish you the best and hope you beat it a second time. I'll keep you in my thoughts and prayers.

Thanks to all of you for your kind comments. I am supposed to get my final chemo next month followed by a PET scan to see if the chemo worked. I am sure it did work and hope to be reading Gangster net for a lot of years to come. My prayers are with Pizzaboy- I miss him too

I echo much of gets and Faithful's comments above.

I miss pizzaboy and wish him well. I am also missing Lilo and his GoT insights. Most of all, I miss them because they are good guys and great to communicate with - as are many of you here as well.

Good luck, bigboy. Come back soon, pizzaboy and Lilo.

This song reminds me of you. I was doing a victory dance to it after the Giants BEAT the Patriots. Let's Hear it for NY!!


https://youtu.be/g4IiccUjGps

Come on back Pizza! Everyone obviously misses you.

I knew Pizza pretty good. We had some mutual friends.....

He is a very successful property owner/landlord. I know that he and his family had many properties around the NY area.

Growing up in South Florida from the early 1970's right up until the early 90's my family owned quite a few rentals, nothing like the crazy high end stuff that PB had (I believe he owned a rental right in the Village in NYC. But at one time my Parents had 3 houses and abround 8-10 apts also.

NOTHING and I mean NOTHING stresses you out more than being a landlord. My parents could write a book on the crazy shit that renters will do.

Most just don't give a shit because "its not their place". Everyone has a sob story of why they are light (or late) this month on their rent. You think you are renting to just one single girl who is a nurse and she'll tell you that shes almost never home because she works doubles shifts at the hospital only to find out that after a week or two she is sneaking in her boyfriend and his 9 year old son in the apt. too. You think your renting to one person who is going to use just so much electric/water etc. only to find out you rented to three people.

Then you have the ones who fucking trash the place THEN they try and take you to small claims court to get their security deposit back.

So its no so hard to imagine PB having heart trouble at 57. My Father had triple bypass at 60.

Sal

You gotta hand it to pizzaboy, he called Hillary losing the election months ago. Hope all is well.

Any news?

Doesn't look like it.

Pizza and I did not always hit it off, but I would have loved to meet him and his father. His father was an Italian Harlem boy like me. Funny no mater how old we are we are always an Italian Harlem boy. All my friends I have left are old, but not in my eyes. Except when they walk with canes and start talking about the medicine they are taking.

Foots, tell me plase ive been meaning to ask you, your mother was italian and your father was from?

PB is in Florida enjoying some sunshine.

You may be right GV. But maybe he's not there of his own volition. As I posted above, I think it's mighty coincidental that PB he stopped posting just about the time Trump entered politics. Could it be that PB had some incriminating information about Trump? Doesn't Trump have properties in Florida?

Forse!

Hell he was an Hungarian Jew. But he was not your typical Jew. One of his friends was an Italian they called highway.

Highway made a ton of money because he own ocean front property in Atlantic City

He used to go to Florida with daddio. He told my father he was the only Jew he liked. Highway had a lot of mob hits under his belt over twenty.

Everyone has incriminating on trump but nothing on Hillary

Here his VP took in a show on Broadway but they knew he would be there. It was a set up by The NY Times.

First trump never said anything bad about gays. When the Islamic terrorist killed all the gays. He gave his condolences to them. You know what Hillary said? She used it to take away people right to carry firearms.

Plus the terrorist killers father was in the front row at a Hillary rallie. You did not hear much about that did you.

I know a lot of hungarians, and hung jews. Where in HUNgary was he from?

I have no idea. He never talked about his family. He had a lot of brothers and he had a sister. Never saw them except the brother who got killed with him. He was from Pittsburgh. When I saw his brother we always had bananas in the house. He would point one at me I will shoot you with a banana funny right?

His father's first name was Adolf and get this his mothers name was Eva. Those two first names sound familiar.

The guy had a heart attack. He doesn't need the agita.

Yes Eva is common hungarian name. I have a friend named Eva its real common, but Adolf is not.. Especially jewish.

There was a big italin gang in East Harlem called the Red wings. Were they active in your generation?

They moved to Detroit.

They moved to Detroit ... where they would beat the puck out of you.

Yes, I knew them they wanted me to join them because they knew I was a good thief. But I never was a follower I like to lead.

I work for him when I got older I was his body guard when he went to bigger and better things.

I think he isn't beating anyone up any more.

Who of the know mobsters was in the Red wings? Do you remmember?

Duke (The Earl) KEATS

Johnny (Lambchops) SHEPPARD
Carson (Pidgeons) COOPER
George (the Farmer) HAY
John Ross (the Bug) ROACH
Don (Fats) GROSSO

There were others.

Never heard of those guys Olivant, who were they?

There was also:

Al "Ham" Berger
Bobby "Sauce" Sage
Johnny "Hit The" Brix
Dominick "Baseball" Batt
Petey "Rooster" Russo
Sal "Smurf" Murphy
Tommy "Marvin" Gaye

Me too. I know a few hung Italians too

Giggle giggle giggle Meow

You ain't right

I don't know any hung Italians, but I know some who should be.

I don't know any hung Asian people.

What about Tojo?

I guess you've never heard of Yung Long Kong Dong. He is friends with Little Ding Ling

a.g. what's you smoking??

Probably an alfaforie special that a brand name for a guinea stinker.

hey pizzaboy

i had no idea that you had that health scare. i hope you are back up and playing golf down in delray and boca. thank you for your contributions to the board and i sincerely hope to see you "on the other side"

His new name is Jim Thompson from Bentonville, Arkansas. He is an accountant with a wife, Norma, and two children, Stanley and Samantha. He now wears blue contact lenses and a blonde wig.

He is currently receiving vocal training from Daniel Day-Lewis's dialect coach in order to lose his NY accent and perfect an Arkansas drawl. No, he has never heard of this Jimmy "Two Fist" Tucci you speak of. You must have the wrong guy.

Pizza Boy's adventures in Arkansas continue next week. Right here on the Gangster BB Channel.

you got a problem with pizza boy?

He does have a problem with Italians and Italian-Americans, that's for sure. Who pulled Moe's string anyways? Is he competing with that other nitwit to win Scem' of the Year.

Pizza has been on here a couple of times and has seen this thread. With the exception of a few posts, he said he received a lot of compliments which he appreciated.
I thought he'd be on here to clear things up on why he doesn't post, but it doesn't look like he'll be back any time soon.

I don't think moe has any problems, he's irish!!

Even if Pizza doesn't see the humor in my previous posts, he's intelligent enough to know they are satirical and not malicious.

I certainly do not have a problem with Italians or Italian-Americans.

When I think of Italian-Americans I do not think of the mafia because stereotyping and pigeonholing people is a pet peeve of mine, particularly when it comes to my own tribe.

Unfortunately, a minority of people seem to derive a lot of their cultural identity from the mafia and get their backs up if you don't excuse their criminality - which is unfortunate!

And Dust Bowl Swede.

all Italians are not mafia, its a sad thing when people think they are. the mafia is a blight on educated, intelligent Italians,of which there are millions. the mafia preyed on the good Italian people for generations, and most Italians hold them in contempt knowing what they really are.

i concur. having a few family members who were knee deep as well as family members who came to this country and worked hard for a better life, youre spot on.

We're still missing you Pizza

Come on back Pizza.

At least post an emoticon...or something.

thank you dino, the literature, and art the Italian people have given the world, is nothing less than the finest in world history.

I have a close friend from Italian Harlem that I see from time to time. Usually at the Giglio feast in East Harlem. Sometimes at a doowop concert but not lately.

He is a little bit older then I am. He never did anything wrong as far as I know. He is a college graduate. Why he even wanted to be friends with a guy like me I don't really understand. Then again even my brother is a college graduate went to polytechnic it was a big engineering college years ago.

The funny thing about my brother is he still has to work at age 80 to make ends meet. He has borrowed about 15 thousand off me that he will never be able to pay back he gives me 100 every two months

Got to hand it to PB.

He called Trump winning the election when it looked like Hillary would win comfortably.

He did I remember that. He said something like 'that old [BadWord] will never be president'. I do think she came a lot closer to winning than he thought she would.

Awwww that's nice. I agree. I miss that wonderful man so much. He is taking a much needed break from the boards and won't be back anytime soon. If one of us receives an email from him, we'll be sure to relay your nice message.

Btw- you may want to delete the thread you created. As you can see, this one has been here for some time. I know Pb is a great guy and all but we really only need ONE Pizzaboy thread

What exactly do you mean here, when you talk about Pizzaboy?

Well, first and foremost, my Dad passed away a little over a year ago. To say that it devastated and changed me would be a colossal understatement. You see, even though he was well into his eighties, and I was well into my fifties, at the time of his passing, he enjoyed the Internet and he didn't like my being on a site like this to say the very least. My Dad was a working man at heart. Sure, he was a knockaround guy. So am I. But no matter who our relatives may have been (and there was at least one heavyweight if that crap impresses you), or how well we did for ourselves financially (and we did pretty fucking well), he felt that it was no one's God damned business. And the man was right. Not that I ever really got into specifics, but I did come close to crossing the line more than once. And now I feel the need to respect him and to not do it again. The other reason is the fact that this place did become very hateful for a time. And I hope that's changed because when it's right, this is the BEST site of its kind. But I think I'll drop in from time to time just to say hi from here on out. I met too many great people here to drop out of sight without mentioning why.

@Giacomo_Vacari: I have no idea what you're talking about. But if you're suggesting that I created a second account here when I stopped posting a year and some months ago, you couldn't be more wrong. I'll keep it classy and just say that I wouldn't piss on my Dad's memory like that.

@Moe: We had our moments, but I never thought you to be anything less than a great kid. And I told you that woman would never be President .

Alf, Cheech, Geoffy, Dom, HK, TB, SV, Tis, SC, DC and SOOOO many more of you (please don't be offended if I omitted you because I'm on my phone), I love you guys. Reading through this thread got me misty eyed. I lasted here over ten years for one reason: Friends like all of you.

God bless, PB .

My sympathies, pb, for losing your dad. May his memory be a blessing for you.

Glad we finally heard from you PB. My condolences.

Yes, the Board has changed enough for me to notice anyway.

Do drop in from time to time.

Rest In Peace to your father.

May God continue to bless you and give you strength, Pizza.

Stay Thirsty, my Friend.

Sorry for your loss, PB. I hope you are back to good health.

PB: Good to hear from you! This thread has been like a "Where's Waldo?" book without the Waldos.

Condolences on the loss of your father, and godspeed to you.

MP

Pizzaboy,

Please accept my sympathies on the passing of your father. I hope to see your posts from time to time.

This guy is coming back on the air soon, so hopefully that will bring a smile to your face.

sorry for your loss PB.

Glad to see you back PB! Hate to hear about your Dad. Hope to catch up on the other side one of these days!

Sorry for your loss PB. Hope to see you around from time to time..

My condolences, PB.

I don't know you very well, but glad to see you're back. Many I respect speak highly of you.

My condolences and prayers to you and your family PB. Wish you the best. Still hope you stop in and drop a few jewels on us here and there. God bless.

I'm so sorry for your loss PB. I know exactly how you feel. I still miss my father and it's been over 6 yrs.

After my father passed away, I saw this quote in a card (I believe)and for some reason it really struck a chord with me.

"Death leaves a heartache that no one can heal. Love leaves a memory that no one can steal."

Thoughts/prayers are with you.


TIS

My condolences, PB. Best wishes.

You know no matter when a loved one dies to a normal person he died too soon. I know he was an Italian Harlem boy right. There are so very few Italians left there. Even during the Mount Carmel feast there are less and less going back to lift the Giglia. Notice I called your dad an Italian Harlem boy. No matter how old we get we are all Italian Harlem boys at heart no matter where we live now.

Hey I am sure he enjoyed playing with your kids his grand children before he died. Did he have any great grand children. Try to remember those times. Then you look at your kids or their kids think of him.

My condolences PB. Im sure he was a wonderful man and a great father. the passing of a loved one is never easy and we always wish we spent more time with them, thats a normal feeling. You seemed to be very close to your dad as you mentioned him a few times. You seem like a fine man yourself and a very good son to your dad. god bless.

God Bless Pizzaboy, sorry about your father, and good to see you post again. Remember God and stay strong.

All of these posts are so WONDERFUL and THOUGHTFUL. I can't wait until Pizzaboy comes back on here to see his thread. I know he will be so grateful to all of you for making him feel so appreciated and valued as a member of this forum.

The forum is certainly less interesting without PB and Ivy.

I am very saddened to hear of your loss PB. May your father’s soul rest in peace. Stay strong and we are always here to support you.

deepest sympathies, pb, god bless your father.

I'm sorry for your loss, PB. I know how close you were to your dad. He was, like my father, a real working-guy New Yorker.

I'm really glad you let everyone on the forum know why you were gone for so long. I was getting asked how and where you were but if you noticed I never folded under questioning lol.

When I first started posting on this forum you greeted me with the warmest of welcomes. Being a female among many males can be a little intimidating to some. And if someone said something inappropriate, you were right there to protect me which was so sweet. I kept telling you that I know how to handle these men but you didn't buy it. My pm flashy light would blink and I'd get a warning from you, watch out for him or be careful lol. And that made me feel really special that you cared that much about me. I think you always looked out for everyone's best interest on the forum. We had a fun time in the beginning especially when you would get cranky or act old (you're not even old) and lecture us "kids" about how things will never be the same and give us all your "take it from a guy who has lived in this neighborhood all his life" speech giggle. The best was when you'd ask a question about something techie and I'd reply to you with some off the wall answer and you would ALMOST fall for it. Aha ha ha like the time I told you that you had to put not only a thumb print but YOUR TOE PRINT on your iPhone 6 lmao. Ha ha ha ha you almost fell for it. I was on the floor laughing so hard. Lol

But, then the forum became a very dramatic and dark place with a lot of jealousy and hate. I would have to witness these terrible trolls attack you and that would break my heart. And the worst was that Jack B. I wanted to fly over to wherever that Hacker Jacker lived and ring that guy's neck. I still do. I kept telling you don't let that guy win. And you finally came to the realization that he was never going to leave you alone and you had to ignore him.

We had a few fights and arguments of our own during that time. But, we also had our own therapy sessions too. Either somebody was bothering me that day and you'd put up your psychologist sign to hear my problems or I'd listen to all the bullshit you had to deal with that day. No matter what, we always found time to be there for one another. And that is what friendship is all about. To think that a person can find a friend like you on a gangster forum of all places has to be the work of angels.

I don't think you realize how many members on this forum feel a very deep connection to you. It's your natural ability to write, get your message across in a way only the very best teachers and scholars can do. And the little jokes and all those silly smiley faces and puns you'd add would never go unnoticed. At times, you were a comedian.

You not only took valuable time out of your day to post to give us a front seat to a life we could never see. But you would go one step further by taking pm's and answering questions making each and every one of us feel like our question was most important to you. The respect and courtesy you would give to the members showed everyone that you are ALL CLASS. Always a gentleman. Sometimes cranky, but always so courteous. And I will miss you so much. This forum will NEVER be the same without you. Love you, 57. Oh excuse me, Almost 58. Giggle

PB..very sorry 4 ur loss..I learned a bit from ur posts when I 1rst came on board,always enjoyed ur wisdom & sense of humor,didnt know u well, but i still looked forward 2 reading ur posts..May the road rise with you & the wind b ever at your back,& may u b in heaven a half hour b4 the devil knows ur dead..miss u ,associate.

Sorry for your loss...I lost my father 10 years ago and still have dreams that he's alive..

Comforting scripture...

Revelation 21:4
And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes,+ and death will be no more,+ neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore.+ The former things have passed away.”

You know I've never had any interactions with Pizzaboy at all (I didn't join until after he quit posting) but I've read a lot of his old posts and this guy was a great poster. Him and HairyKnuckles stood out immediately as two posters on here who knew their stuff. Obviously Pizzaboy had some connection to someone or more than one person in LCN (I think he admits as much in his posts) which made his posts really good. For someone like me who lives in Ohio and has never met anyone remotely connected to OC because some clown at work who claims he is Joe Masseria's great grandson, it was really cool to read from a poster who has firsthand knowledge. I think everyone can agree that you need to take things from some people with a grain of salt on here but you could tell Pizzaboy was the real thing. It is a shame he is not going to post anymore or on hiatus but you have to respect the reasononing he stated for it, if nothing else.

Thank you all so much for the kind words. In a strange way this has brought me some additional closure more than a year after my Dad's passing. And the reason for that was, as my dearest friend as well as being my Dad, I spoke about him here often and with great affection. I love this board. I always have and I always will. And I'll be by to post now and again. Because it feels right now. Like I have his blessing. The Angel on my shoulder.

Love you guys,

Pizzaboy

Glad 2 c u postin' again @ least a little,pizza..in not much relation 2 ur post,i'll b putting down my son (a black lab) 2day.he's 14 yrs. old,hind legs giving out,gone deaf,& is shittin' all over the house & does'nt even know it,I finally worked up the nerve & courage & strength w/help from my wife ( she's distraught also)..he's had a good life,we took him EVERYWHERE w/us all coastal trips,B&B..ate steak & shrimp,gorgonzola,all human delicacies as well as his normal doggy food etc..true part of the family, well,the wife just handed me a xanax,,time 2 get in the past...thanx 4 listening..

Pizzaboy, welcome back, I am so extremely sorry for your dad...I think you said time ago, before the absence period, that he got a little better, so it's very sad and unexpected....Losing a parent is one of the most hurtful things in the world, so I would like to express my sincere condolences, even though my words can't help apart from moral support...I hope that you will be ok at least physically, in good health, and I personally hope (without starting a debate about religions) that there is an after-world for the souls and that your dad is there now and will always be watching you and that we all will be able to eventually see again the people who were close to us.

Glad to see you post again, PB. I lost my pops as a young man and it never gets easier, you only learn more ways to cope. Regardless, it's good to see you back. I won't lie I've definitely looked up some of your older posts during my slower days at work.

Sorry to hear pizza. Finally made it down to st petes or should i say clearwater cause its all just a island 15 mins across from tampa airport loved it alot better then Miami and the national hotel south beach which sucked cause i dont have money like that. Clearwater was a million times better. Car was great and free parking at my hotel.

Sorry for your loss

You mean Davis Island?

Pizzaboy- Glad to see you back and my condolences regarding your father. I went through that years ago and is still hurts. I look forward to your informative posts.

Glad your back PB, youre a good person and, believe me, I know exactly what your going through... People do start saying, naturally, after a short while that time is a healer etc, and they mean well. Ive learned that (eventually) it is honestly true. Its still cold comfort in any case, but you just keep have to keep moving forward.

My best wishes to you my man, keep your head up and stay strong.

Sorry for the delayed response pb dealing w a sick little girl still... but glad you're back pal and sorry for your loss. I think you and I discussed privately I know what you're going through lost my dad goin on 2 years ago and im only 31. Hang in there my man

I'd rather watch paint dry than tune into the ball game but I did happen to check the score yesterday. I wonder if your Pops had anything to do with the Mets winning. You know, performing a miracle like that. Giggle. I bet that win put a smile on your face Perfect Father's Day gift.

Jaysus. Has it been that long since he's been a regular poster? Time flies.

My hair and facial hair is still brown. Every time I shave my facial hair I'm worried about grey coming in. Still don't have any lines on my forehead nor crow's feet. Turning 30 is the fucking worst. I spend hours in front of the mirror worrying about the aging process.

Hoping he is doing better now.

He still posts here the odd time. He might post more frequently on the other side but I got banned from there within a few minutes after they found out who I was so I wouldn't know LOL.

Turning 30 this coming week at last. Definitely difficult times to say the least which even I hadn't anticipated... I say somewhat thankfully I never even got to worry about graying or losing hair beforehand, even though I have been struggeling with the latter since, but I am fairly certain it isn't because of my ageing process.

One thing I've inherited is a solid head of hair. My brothers all started getting grey hairs when they turned thirty but I haven't (touch wood). I'm convincing myself I'll turn out different because my hair is brown and theirs is black.

I remember my older sister coming home as a thirtysomething for the first time years and me remarking on how old looking she got.

I'm not laughing now!

Somewhere out there Pizzaboy is laughing. The childish punk who caused him agita is now in his thirties. Laugh it up Pizzaboy, laugh it up.

I did as well, and I was told I had very thick hair, and thickest out of us all while my brother didn't when he was little and he has thick dark blonde hair instead. Our older brother, he's has dark brown hair but got grey hair I believe before 25 - my aunt got grey hair at 18!! (still I didn't start worry about grey hair, that's what I wanted to mention before), my brothers both similar full head hairline of our grandfather on mom's side, our grandfather on fathers side had less hair and my father similar not completely bald baldness like his dad - not too bad looking baldness fortunately. I have dark brown hair, (and a darker sun tan) the most dark haired one in my family among all I met, grey hairs started to appear 5-6 years ago and I freaked! Then they disappeared and reappeared and so on and this went on on and off for maybe around a years time. The only hairs that aren't dark brown are TWO... like sort of half silver hairs at the top (LOL). Then even worse than graying, some years after my hair started thinning, and this has been going on in the same very strange fashion... the hair loss stops and starts the same damn way. I experienced years before the graying thing my hair on the top basically stopped growing at a certain length. But I'm positive what this all is about, I have lived with tons of stress and depression since in my youth.

I just wanted to say I'm sorry I didn't mean for a thread about PB to turn into a thread about baldness!

If you're worried about balding at least there's more options now than there ever was. Hair transplants look pretty good now.

I have never even tried any products for that, so it isn't too bad in my own opinion. What's mostly been having me indecisive is that it can look different each day just like I mentioned about greying, and even after just having gotten a couple of hours of fresh air and a good day in general I like to think that is almost always giving me a reboost of sorts, and I might feel worse letting my hair grow in an unnatural way. But again I know what I've gone through, there are several reasons. I have had many and many bad days where I've felt the need to use non-liquid hand soap for my hair.

I always liked ya, Moe. If I was acting like the proverbial cranky old man it was because I shouldn't have been posting so much in the OC threads to begin with. Having grown up where and when I did made me quick to dismiss the opinions of others. And I was never more unfair than when interacting with people who didn't grow up around the subject matter, especially when I was going back and forth with Europeans such as yourself. I'm sorry for that but I'm afraid I can't change in that regard. Hence why I'm back but not really planning on posting in those threads. Except maybe here and there where the subject matter isn't too close to home. Like guys who are long dead or not Bronx based lol.

No offense taken, PB. You know more about this thing than I do (obviously) and I know I probably came across like an ass once or twice. You're very knowledgeable and always post good shit. No offense intended on my part. Always good to see you post.