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Can you be "bi-racial"?!

Posted By: fergie

Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/12/15 05:39 PM

Well, I thought we had hit the height of madness with Bruce Jenner and his alter-ego...now we have this...

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/06/12/us/washington-spokane-naacp-rachel-dolezal-identity/index.html

I heard this this morning on the radio..in Scotland...a black woman trapped in a white woman's body...I have a few opinions on this utter nonsense:

1. Good on her for the work she's done, whatever colour her skin happens to be, Im sure she's helped the cause she's involved in up until now

2. She's got serious issues..she must've spent a lot of personal time thinking how she could pull off looking more black, perhaps ultimately with good intention, but its still a crazy thing to do..why? Possibly its a kind of closed shop for white people to reach a high level, but that doesn't really answer her initial reasoning

3. If she didn't think she'd get caught out, she must be borderline mad...or she knew it and its the next reality show....

4. Maybe she's "brave" and we'll be treated to a hundred other white people that were born black and just want to be accepted that way now-good luck walking through South Central saying that to your "homies"
Posted By: SonnyBlackstein

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/12/15 05:49 PM

Moderately curious as to what this as to do with OC?
Posted By: fergie

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/12/15 05:52 PM

Apologies....my bad, should be general discussion...
Posted By: NickyEyes1

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/12/15 08:11 PM

As soon as this Bruce Jenner bullshit went down weeks ago I brought this exact situation up as the next thing to happen. And it does. Give me a fucking break.
Posted By: Binnie_Coll

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/12/15 10:30 PM


fergie.. I saw the news this morning, as I subscribe to the spokesman review, I live in Idaho, and its the best news around,

rachael is a teacher at a university In Washington. she should have known better, it was a stupid thing to try as she is not black.

her ex-husband has a camera store in CDA and I go in there a lot, he regards her as a unrealilistic opportunist.
Posted By: getthesenets

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/13/15 12:24 AM

She looks like Kathleen Cleaver and EVERY half Black half German woman I've ever met.

Weird story as the story was usually of very fair skinned Black folks "passing" as white back in the days for whatever reason.

Only time I've ever heard it the other way was the film ,Soul Man.
Posted By: Faithful1

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/13/15 01:29 AM

Based on her old photo, it's clear that she had her hair styled to look more "biracial" and probably has a sprayed-on tan because her skin clearly was paler when she was young.

She's been sarcastically compared to John Howard Griffin, a white man who darkened his skin then pretended to be a black man in the South in the 1950s. His book was called "Black Like Me."

Also turns out that Cleaver may have committed some phony hate crimes.

http://www.cdapress.com/news/local_news/article_385adfeb-76f3-5050-98b4-d4bf021c423f.html

http://pjmedia.com/eddriscoll/2015/06/12/black-like-me-the-rachel-dolezal-story/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Like_Me
Posted By: getthesenets

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/13/15 01:36 AM

F1,,Saw the film "Black Like Me" years ago....lot of the story and dialogue went over my head.set in specific time and location and i just didn't get some of the references.....especially some of the sexual references.
Posted By: getthesenets

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/13/15 01:38 AM

and yeah F1

this stuff came out because she alleged that her p.o. box was filled with hate mail and evidence showed that only those with keys had access to it.
Posted By: thedudeabides87

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/13/15 03:05 AM

Originally Posted By: Faithful1


She's been sarcastically compared to John Howard Griffin, a white man who darkened his skin then pretended to be a black man in the South in the 1950s. His book was called "Black Like Me."


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Like_Me


Originally Posted By: getthesenets
F1,,Saw the film "Black Like Me" years ago....lot of the story and dialogue went over my head.set in specific time and location and i just didn't get some of the references.....especially some of the sexual references.


Good book I read it a about 5 years ago, I definitely recommend it. I don't remember sexual references in the book itself so that may have been added for cinematic reasons, I also could have just forgotten about them if they were in the book
Posted By: pizzaboy

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/13/15 04:18 AM

Final Jeopardy:

If a biracial, bisexual male, has a daughter with a biracial, bisexual woman on a train in Dayton, and a straight White couple has a son on a bus in Memphis, who arrives in Jacksonville first?

This was actually on my Math Regents in 1976. Catholic schools in the Bronx were very progressive for the times.

Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo........
Posted By: fergie

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/13/15 12:43 PM

My head just exploded...!
Posted By: getthesenets

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/13/15 12:45 PM

Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Final Jeopardy:

If a biracial, bisexual male, has a daughter with a biracial, bisexual woman on a train in Dayton, and a straight White couple has a son on a bus in Memphis, who arrives in Jacksonville first?

This was actually on my Math Regents in 1976. Catholic schools in the Bronx were very progressive for the times.

Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo........


Since "Coach" asked the question....Cliff Clavin has to answer.




Who are 3 people who have never been in my kitchen?
Posted By: getthesenets

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/13/15 12:49 PM

For those who have never seen Cheers..

Posted By: olivant

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/13/15 01:45 PM

I can sympathize with this woman. I'm an Italian trapped in a Polish body. I desperately want to eat pizza, but my Polish body doesn't have the hand/eye coordination to enable me to get the pizza to my mouth.
Posted By: fergie

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/13/15 01:52 PM

Anyone remember this movie?

http://youtu.be/z2zMrjBLwn8
Posted By: fergie

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/13/15 01:54 PM

Sorry Gets, I see you mentioned it earlier! Always one step ahead eh!
Posted By: Faithful1

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/14/15 05:49 AM

Here's the trailer for "Black Like Me."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTJDWPIy2eo

Can watch the full movie here, for free:
http://www.imdb.com/video/hulu/vi1733209113
Posted By: fergie

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/14/15 09:03 AM

What a horrible world it was back then, hard to believe there's people still alive that think that way
Posted By: Footreads

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/14/15 11:36 AM

Wasn't Michael Jackson a Black man who wanted to be white?

It like when a Black man is successful the first things he does is get a white women, and he gets a white servant.
Posted By: thedudeabides87

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/14/15 02:01 PM

Michael Jackson I am pretty sure had vitiligo and for celebrity vanity reasons who had his skin white. Also on of his ex said when cameras werent around his voice wasn't like that he actually sounded "normal"
Posted By: fergie

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/14/15 02:26 PM

You hear his voice on tapes just before he died, it was very deep
Posted By: getthesenets

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/14/15 07:14 PM

F1,

thanks....I remembered that "Brooks" from Shawshank Redemption was the lead....because I saw the two films in the same month.
About the sexual stuff....there were a running "joke?" in the film where different characters kept asking bugged out questions.


Foot,
What you described is "conspicuous assimilation"..the blonde wasp wife, like Kay in the Godfather.
Posted By: ItalianForever

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/14/15 08:02 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lu_G1zaPCPw

The Moors of Sicily.
Posted By: Binnie_Coll

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/14/15 08:48 PM

Originally Posted By: Faithful1
Here's the trailer for "Black Like Me."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTJDWPIy2eo

Can watch the full movie here, for free:
http://www.imdb.com/video/hulu/vi1733209113


hey, thanks for the link faithful, I read the book years ago. been years since I saw the movie, anxious to see It again.

thank you.
Posted By: Faithful1

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/14/15 09:27 PM

I think the book was better than the movie. James Whitmore looked like a minstrel without the big lip makeup. The real John Howard Griffin shaved his head and did look like a black man.

There have been a couple other people that did this experiment. The first guy to do it was journalist Ray Sprigle in 1948. He went to Georgia. He didn't use the anti-vitiligo drugss like those who came after him did, he just tanned himself up real good and shaved his head. I haven't seen photos of Sprigle when he went undercover, but he must have been convincing to the white Southerners he encountered. Here's his story: http://old.post-gazette.com/sprigle/Sprigleintroduction.asp

Grace Halsell did it in the 1960s and wrote a book called "Soul Sister" about her experiences. In the 1990s some college student did it and he talked about his experiences on Oprah.
Posted By: mustachepete

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/14/15 10:19 PM

Yes, you can even be bi-racial, bi-ornithological. This is commonly known as bi-bi-blackbird.
Posted By: olivant

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/14/15 11:20 PM

Originally Posted By: mustachepete
Yes, you can even be bi-racial, bi-ornithological. This is commonly known as bi-bi-blackbird.


lol lol
Posted By: cookcounty

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/15/15 04:10 AM

Originally Posted By: Footreads
Wasn't Michael Jackson a Black man who wanted to be white?

It like when a Black man is successful the first things he does is get a white women, and he gets a white servant.



that was in the 70s and 80s

now when black men get rich they marry a stripper that "dated" ten different rappers/athletes

true story
Posted By: rockstar_man45

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/15/15 04:16 AM

Originally Posted By: cookcounty
Originally Posted By: Footreads
Wasn't Michael Jackson a Black man who wanted to be white?

It like when a Black man is successful the first things he does is get a white women, and he gets a white servant.



that was in the 70s and 80s

now when black men get rich they marry a stripper that "dated" ten different rappers/athletes

true story


In the words of Chris Rock.

A guy like Shaquille O'Neal is rich. The white man who gives him his paycheck is wealthy
Posted By: MaryCas

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/15/15 09:44 PM

On Seinfeld Elaine thought she was dating a black man and he thought he was dating an hispanic. Happens all the time.
Posted By: Faithful1

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/16/15 02:06 AM

Rachel Dolezal has now resigned from her post at the NAACP:
http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/15/us/washington-rachel-dolezal-naacp/

Her adoptive brother said that she asked him to cover up her new identity three years ago: http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/13/us/washington-rachel-dolezal-adopted-brother/

Her mother said she's a great makeup artist and even has paintings on Black themes that she sells on ebay: http://www.people.com/article/rachel-dolezal-artist-makeup

However, it turns out that she can't even paint without plagiarizing someone else:
https://twitter.com/Jolieishere/status/610281182211764226/photo/1
Posted By: getthesenets

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/16/15 02:18 AM

Hey...just noticed her name is Rachel/Racial

lol

She's taken a lot of L's in those links,F1
In fact took so many of them she should change her name to racheL doLezaL

Any way you slice it, she's a fraud.
Posted By: Faithful1

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/16/15 03:06 AM

She's definitely a fraud, but I'm sure she had a lot of enabling for her to become the head of the Spokane NAACP.

Here photo is still up on the Spokane NAACP's homepage:
http://spokanenaacp.com/

No outrage on its FB page: https://www.facebook.com/spokane.naacp

And the enablers are going on defense in the Seattle Times:
http://www.seattletimes.com/opinion/soli...be-drowned-out/

http://www.seattletimes.com/opinion/rachel-dolezal-could-be-my-sister-ive-failed-race-tests-too/

Bizarrely, she it came out that she claimed her ex-husband made her live as a white woman and forced her to give up her black identity (you can't make this stuff up!): http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2015/jun/15/Rachel-dolezal-told-student-that-ex-husband/
Posted By: mustachepete

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/16/15 04:18 AM

The story just keeps on giving:

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/bizarre/rachel-dolezal-discrimination-lawsuit-786451
Posted By: thedudeabides87

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/16/15 02:21 PM

NY Daily News article with an interview, one the the terms she used was as a way people described her "transracial"
Posted By: fergie

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/16/15 04:19 PM

She's not "transracial".... She's a white woman dressing up as a black woman to fit her own agenda, nothing else. We should really be asking why she thought it reasonable to enter into that fantasy and mislead thousands of people who really do feel disenfranchised. People like this woman need to stop getting away with inventing words to fit their mistakes, as if giving it a label gives it more authenticity.

Again, a few years down the line, we'll be prosecuted for stating the obvious in this and similar cases. Who cares what she does? Hopefully every honest black person in the country who she misled, let down and parodied....also see the Bruce Jenner thread and what it can lead to when people start screaming about their "rights" after they feel "accepted" by society. However, the acceptance is confused, in reality, society in general has just learned to ignore them, then subsequently gets hammered by ridiculous equality demands and threats.

"My dog is a cat, you better say it it, or you'll hear from my lawyer"
Posted By: getthesenets

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/16/15 05:06 PM

When Air America used to be on the radio, there was a host who used to say often that she was a Black woman. Because of the history of race mixing in this country, it's hard to look at someone and tell if they are Black or not(or have Black blood or ancestry) but this woman didn't look ANY parts Black.I was puzzled by her consistently saying that she was Black.

I expect her to pop up sometime in this story.

Randi Rhodes
Posted By: rockstar_man45

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/16/15 05:27 PM

Originally Posted By: getthesenets
When Air America used to be on the radio, there was a host who used to say often that she was a Black woman. Because of the history of race mixing in this country, it's hard to look at someone and tell if they are Black or not(or have Black blood or ancestry) but this woman didn't look ANY parts Black.I was puzzled by her consistently saying that she was Black.

I expect her to pop up sometime in this story.

Randi Rhodes


She's a blonde haired Jewish woman. She's about as black as a glue stick.

What's your take on this gets? Can someone really be 'transracial'? Do you consider this woman of Czech, German, and Swedish ancestry to truly be black?
Posted By: padrone

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/16/15 05:51 PM

I have a client who is transgender; dude who thinks he's a woman. He told me he had a boyfriend and in conversation I stated that the boyfriend was gay. He/ She said no, he was straight because I am a woman inside. This made little sense to me. So the other night I was at my bar and I started talking about it with a younger girl who hangs there and the bartender. The girl is 24 and when I stated that I believed the boyfriend to be gay she said that it was because of my white male privileged upbringing that I did not understand. Amazed because she knows nothing about me, I asked her to explain herself. She states that it isn't what you look like or what parts you have, it is how you identify yourself. So being a smart ass I said, "OK, I'm black". She did't think it was as funny as the bartender.

It is fine if a person believes him or herself to be a man, woman or cow. It does not bother me in the least. But forcing others to classify them as something or someone they are not goes against all social norms and has negative societal consequences.
Posted By: getthesenets

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/16/15 06:01 PM

Originally Posted By: rockstar_man45
She's a blonde haired Jewish woman. She's about as black as a glue stick.

What's your take on this gets? Can someone really be 'transracial'? Do you consider this woman of Czech, German, and Swedish ancestry to truly be black?


absolutely NOT.
I have a more detailed take which I'll write later, but speaking for myself only....NO!
Posted By: fergie

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/16/15 06:06 PM

Exactly padrone...the unfortunate natural next step though after their belief is that the seek acceptance and take advantage of paranoid equality legislation.

Its no fun believing your a cow if nobody else plays along eh
Posted By: thedudeabides87

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/16/15 06:07 PM

I think the term “transracial” should only be applied to adoptions where the adoptive parents are of a different race than the adopted children, that is even pushing it since I think the term is nonsense.

Originally Posted By: padrone
white male privileged upbringing that I did not understand. Amazed because she knows nothing about me


It is amazing how someone can draw that conclusion without knowing you, just by your appearance. They look at you and project what they want you to be without any knowledge of your background, experiences etc. etc.

Originally Posted By: padrone
I have a client who is transgender; dude who thinks he's a woman. He told me he had a boyfriend and in conversation I stated that the boyfriend was gay. He/ She said no, he was straight because I am a woman inside.


If people with the same genitalia are in a relationship it is a gay relationship, no matter how one person feels inside. No question about it.
Posted By: fergie

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/16/15 06:16 PM

Yep, "I'm not gay, I'm just with a guy (who has a cock) and he promises me he's a woman trapped in a guys body and we have great sex based on this promise...

No my deluded friend, you're as gay as gay can be and your partner is to!
Posted By: olivant

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/16/15 06:25 PM

I posted before that I'm an Italian trapped in a Polish body and because I am trapped I actually did burn my lips on an exhaust pipe trying to blow up the car of a gang rival.
Posted By: Faithful1

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/16/15 07:10 PM

The idealist agenda is that anything you call yourself is what you are. So if Bruce Jenner calls himself a woman, then he's a woman. If Rachel Dolezal calls herself black, then she's black. On the other side are the realists who say, "Bruce, you still have that Y chromosome which makes you a male. Even if you cut off your penis and testicles all you are is mutilated man, a fully castrated man who dresses like a woman," and "Rachel, you can't change who your parents are and what your ancestry is, and we don't have the technology to permanently change your DNA, so you will always be, racially speaking, white, no matter what you call yourself." The idealists are simply enabling people who are delusional.
Posted By: Faithful1

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/16/15 07:12 PM

Originally Posted By: getthesenets
When Air America used to be on the radio, there was a host who used to say often that she was a Black woman. Because of the history of race mixing in this country, it's hard to look at someone and tell if they are Black or not(or have Black blood or ancestry) but this woman didn't look ANY parts Black.I was puzzled by her consistently saying that she was Black.

I expect her to pop up sometime in this story.

Randi Rhodes


Rhodes was born in Brooklyn, New York and grew up in a Jewish family[1] in both Brooklyn and the Queens borough of New York City. Her father was a mechanical engineer and World War II veteran, and her mother was a dress shop worker; they divorced by the time Rhodes was 15.[2] Rhodes has described her adolescence as mischievous and cites it as why she enlisted in the United States Air Force.[2][3] Her married name is Randi Robertson;[4] Rhodes is a stage name chosen to honor Ozzy Osbourne's guitar player Randy Rhoads, whom Rhodes describes as "a consummate professional ... but he always practiced. I mean, he practiced eight hours a day. He lived to be the best."[5]
Posted By: fergie

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/16/15 07:29 PM

Again, the real issue isn't about what you think you are, its about the rights you demand and the threats you make within society based on your delusion.
Posted By: Faithful1

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/16/15 07:30 PM

What do they call it when the government tries to force you to believe people's delusions? Fascism.
Posted By: fergie

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/16/15 07:38 PM

I remember the idiots on tv programmes years ago who used to talk in tongues, pretending they were possessed by random aliens from wherever it was...I suppose we should've immediately have taken them seriously based on what they say they are...call them bi-human or something. Its basically the same justification
Posted By: fergie

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/16/15 07:40 PM

Good point Faithless, its a long road to Fascism, but we're definitely on some warped version of it!
Posted By: Faithful1

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/16/15 07:53 PM

Tomorrow I'm going to be the Great Khal and will sit on the Iron Throne. Don't argue with me about it or else you're a hater and some sort of phobe (the name of which I haven't figured out yet) and I'll get you expelled from your university for being a racist bigot phobe.
Posted By: fergie

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/16/15 08:03 PM

And the day after, I'm Napoleon and I only want to be treated equally....meaning you call me that and defer to me as the Emperor of France and don't ever call me short.

My lawyers will be watching....:)
Posted By: getthesenets

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/17/15 02:59 PM

Originally Posted By: fergie
Sorry Gets, I see you mentioned it earlier! Always one step ahead eh!

thanks

here's another film scene that came to mind


Posted By: Alfanosgirl

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/17/15 06:05 PM

Originally Posted By: getthesenets
Originally Posted By: fergie
Sorry Gets, I see you mentioned it earlier! Always one step ahead eh!

thanks

here's another film scene that came to mind




lol lol No way Gets, I was gonna put that scene cuz it came to mind. Here's the other scene that can go with it ha ha

http://youtu.be/YOKpDidUq-w
Posted By: IvyLeague

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/17/15 07:05 PM

Quote:
Rachel Dolezal Is Just Another Person Driven Insane By Liberalism
Matt Walsh
June 16, 2015



Liberalism is a force of hopeless insanity.

It’s important to understand this upfront. Progressives have been waging a brutal, endless war against Truth, and this is where it leads. To Bruce Jenner. To Rachel Dolezal. To much worse things than these, like the destruction of unborn life and the annihilation of marriage and the family. This is liberalism. Why are you shocked by any absurdity or atrocity it creates when this same force has been eating our culture alive for decades?

Did you just now notice?

I don’t mean to write another thinkpiece on Rachel Dolezal. Everything that can be said about that pitiful woman has been said, and then some. The only thing I will offer in her defense is that it is quite unfair to call her an embarrassment to the NAACP. I mean, come on, this is the NAACP we’re talking about here. It’s been doing a superb job of embarrassing itself for a while now. If it could collectively feel any ounce of shame, it would have died from it years ago. Perhaps right around the time when it honored R.Kelly with an Image Award.

Now, if Dolezal had been outed as a Mitt Romney voter, that would have terribly damaged the institution’s reputation. But since she’s merely a phony who lied about her race, defrauded colleges, chastised real ethnic minorities for not being ethnic enough, invented hate crimes, claimed her adopted brother was her son, said that her pretend black father fled the south after assaulting a cop, made up a story about being born in a teepee in Montana, and generally exhibited the integrity of an incarcerated sociopath and the prudence of a drunken toddler, the NAACP has unsurprisingly defended her.

Even less surprising is that Dolezal has gone from taking a defiant stance to a heroic one. Explaining her decision to step down from her leadership role, she effusively praised herself, affirming her commitment to “empowering marginalized voices” (by mimicking them) and to advancing the “cause of racial and social justice” (which she exploited for personal gain).

Beginning her media tour on Tuesday, she stopped by the Today Show and was treated to a softball interview that began with Matt Lauer patting her on the back for “starting a discussion on race and what it means in this country.” As an aside, if you haven’t noticed by now, this is how to get out of facing the consequences for any atrocious act you happen to commit: Just say you were trying to start a conversation.

“I wasn’t robbing that PNC branch, officer. I was just trying to start a conversation about income inequality and the banking system!”

Dolezal never took responsibility during the interview, instead pontificating about the “complexities of her identity,” which is a phrase that means nothing, and insisting that she’s been identifying as a black woman since the age of five. (Apparently, she took a brief respite from identifying as black when she sued Howard in 2002 for discriminating against her as a white woman, but, you know, technicalities.)

In any case, the whole affair came to light at a fascinating moment in our culture, as the country is still wrapped up in its months-long celebration of Bruce Jenner.

The connection is obvious and undeniable: Liberals insist that biology, genetics, anatomy, and chemistry have nothing to do with gender, and that an individual can choose to defy all of these factors if their feelings run contrary to their physical reality. Therefore, why can’t a person identify as another race if that’s how they feel? Indeed, race is already a murky subject, and every person on Earth is some combination of various ethnicities. My whiteness is far less hardwired and far more difficult to define than my maleness, so if the latter is negotiable, certainly the former must be as well.

Further, if our “inner identity” can be mysteriously mismatched with our physical exterior — as if the self is not a synthesis of body and soul but a soul contained in, and divorced from, the body — who’s to put limits on the extent and form of this incongruity? If I can be a male inside a female body, then why not a black man inside a white man’s body? Or even a black woman inside a white man’s body? As many have observed, what disqualifies or disproves anyone’s contention that they are, beyond transgender or transracial, even transpecies? Maybe I feel like a flying squirrel or an Amazonian toad or a hydrangea bush. Maybe I feel like an Asian eunuch inside a black woman inside a white man inside a white woman inside a potato. If we have claimed the authority to be something other than the thing God (or “nature”) constructed us to be, there are no boundaries.

Plenty of people have made these points, and they are good points. Unassailable. Inarguable. Surely, the “transgender” fantasy will be abandoned by progressives once they see how far their flawed logic can go, right?

Not quite.

While plenty of liberals have attacked Dolezal and attempted, feebly, to distinguish between her ridiculous charade and Bruce Jenner’s, many others, from MSNBC hosts, to writers for USA Today and Slate, to college professors, have embraced the idea that a person might indeed be transracial. CNN published an editorial this morning emphatically declaring that Dolezal has “a right to be black.” I’m guessing it will be only a few years until the Supreme Court finds that entitlement hidden somewhere in the Bill of Rights.

The term “transracial” started as a satire among conservatives, but has been unironically adopted by liberals. Now conservatives are left staring from the sidelines flabbergasted, saying, “Uh, guys? We were joking…” But it’s too late. Liberals, as they have demonstrated time and again, will not back away from the slippery slope. They’ll grab a sled and slide right down that thing. If you point out how one liberal proposition leads to an even more absurd proposition, they’ll happily defend the more absurd one. Maybe not right away — they have to act like it was their idea first– but eventually, that particular bit of morbid idiocy will be a matter of liberal dogma.

Rachel Dolezal is a pathological liar, so as more of her deceptions come to light, progressives will have no choice but to disown her. But she did “start a conversation” about transracialism — even “changing the way we think about race”, according to NPR — and I am confident that, sooner rather than later, the transracials will be standing alongside the transgenders and the trasableds and the transspecieds and the transdimensionals and the transrobots, all enjoying the status of protected and prized minority communities.

If you doubt such an eventuality, if you think liberalism will turn back once it sees the depths of its own dementia, you clearly do not understand what you’re dealing with.

Modern liberalism, so called, is nothing more and nothing less than the categorical rejection of truth. It is not scared or slowed or dissuaded by any form of untruth, because it is inherently, down to its very essence, in every fiber of its hideous being, a lie. It is an enemy of truth and an ally of anything that undermines it. I recently made the argument that the liberal transgender superstition completed the final step into total, full blown anti-truth lunacy. Once they have perverted the very definition of being, there is nowhere else to go. This is it. Whatever faint glimmer of reality still shone from its dying core has now been extinguished. That was my theory, and it took less than two weeks to be proven correct.

But as I said, none of this is shocking. Certainly there’s something unique about the outright renunciation of biology by a scientifically advanced civilization, but it all stems from the rejection of Truth and the idolatry of the self, which is not only an old evil, but the oldest.

Liberalism is not some quirky new invention that came along in sincerity, with good ideas and bad ideas, to try and help our society progress. No, it is not new, it is not concerned with progress, and it has no good ideas at all. It is the worst and most ancient of ideas, now slightly updated and with hashtags.

Liberalism — which is really just a political label for the religious belief in the supremacy of the self — was born before time, with Satan’s rebellion against God. Non serviam, as the tradition goes. Satan refused to worship God, who is the only Truth, and chose instead to serve himself. He turned his gaze away from the light of what is Real and into the darkness of his own selfishness.

We all do this at various points of our lives, probably on a daily basis. It’s called sin. Whenever we serve something or someone other than God, we sin. This is a struggle for all of us; obviously liberals are not the only sinners in the world. But liberalism has made all of these various rebellions into a religion of their own. Yes, we all battle temptations, but liberalism has systematically declared these temptations righteous. Whereas any human fights against the urge to treat himself as if he is greater than God, liberalism professes that the self actually is greater than God. Hence, the individual can alter his biological makeup if it will fulfill his desires, or redefine the purpose of marriage if it will make him happy, or strip the humanity from a child in the womb if it will make sex more fun and convenient.

This is, literally, satanism.

These days, most self-identified Satanists would be the first to tell you that they do not explicitly worship a theological entity known as “Satan.” They simply practice the Satanic motto coined by Aleister Crowley 100 years ago: “Do what thou wilt.”

That’s the whole of the Satanic law, and the sum of progressive philosophy as well. Of course there are exceptions — do what thou wilt, unless what thou wilt promotes or advances moral absolutes — but aside from those caveats, go for it.

Serve yourself. That is all that matters. Self-love is not only the highest but the only form of love. This is how liberals and Satanists can claim that horrors like abortion are acts of love. It is death and murder in service to the self, therefore it must be good. Likewise, when a “transgender” mutilates himself, he does it in service to himself, therefore it must be good. If it’ll satisfy your urges, it’s good. Period.

What we’ve discovered is that, when it comes down to it, our society has two options: the Truth or the Lie. God or ourselves. Heaven or Hell. Liberalism has rejected the former in its entirety, and every day we are treated to another example of how dark and confused a culture becomes when it casts aside the Truth.

Is it any wonder that Rachel Dolezal thinks she can become another race just by “identifying” as one? This is the lunatic creed of progressivism. The self is god. I can do what I want because it is what I want, and there is no force greater or more important than my own desire.

That was Dolezal’s thought process, and it’s completely consistent with mainstream liberal philosophy.

Really, she’s no worse than any other liberal.

http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/ra...16%20--%20final
Posted By: cookcounty

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/17/15 07:38 PM

^^^^

if black people ain't mad at her then why are white people
Posted By: fergie

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/17/15 08:13 PM

That's sums everything up very well Ivy...
Posted By: Binnie_Coll

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/17/15 08:15 PM

I live in CDA id, she lives in CDA Idaho, everybody around here has always known she wasn't black, if you see her you know shes's not black.

but, the attitude in CDA was let her play her silly games who cares, there are more important news stories than her.
Posted By: Faithful1

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/17/15 10:03 PM

Rachel Dolezal wasn't the first person to pass as black:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/white-councilman-campaigned-black-man-31-years-ago/story?id=31825268

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2...ontroversy.html

http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20088031,00.html


Posted By: getthesenets

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/18/15 01:06 AM

good pull F1

Never heard of that guy or his story.
Posted By: Faithful1

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/18/15 04:07 AM

Looks like the British newspaper the Daily Mail has been all over this. DK reporters traced her family tree to the 1600s and found no black ancestors: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...ves-Africa.html

She says that she's also bisexual: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...onated-her.html

And to top it off, made a sex tape with her ex-husband: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...urt-papers.html
Posted By: getthesenets

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/18/15 03:29 PM

Originally Posted By: getthesenets
and yeah F1

this stuff came out because she alleged that her p.o. box was filled with hate mail and evidence showed that only those with keys had access to it.


point by point breakdown by local media outlet that was behind the story

http://www.kxly.com/news/spokane-news/rachel-dolezal-the-story-behind-the-story/33608002


This is the crux of the story...all the interviews and revelations about sexuality and other smokescreens are just to deflect from Rachel being a LIAR. Worse than her lying about who she is and her background is her crying wolf about "hate mail" and "nooses" on her property. There is a REAL ugly history in this country of race riots,terrorism, violence,lynchings,etc.
These things are not to be trivialized...by ANYBODY. Her story has taken several bizarre and even comical twists and turns. On a surface, skin deep level(pun) it's a very funny story....but Rachel dishonors the generations of people who were victims of jim crow and klan fueled terror by LYING about being the target of hate crimes/intimidation.
Posted By: Footreads

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/18/15 04:04 PM

There was a movie that my wife liked in fact their was a remark of the same movie.

Where a white women became an actress a famous actress and had a black house keeper who loved her. The black housekeeper had a daughter with whie features. The actress also had a daughter about the same age. As kids they were close very close.

The housekeepers daughter wanted to be white not black.

She became ashamed of her mother for being black. She left and passed herself off as a white women.

Long interesting story then the housekeeper dies. I think the funeral was had in black Harlem. A lot of people loved that women. Then the daughter hears about it and comes to the funeral. Then she crys for her mother who she denied in the past.

Forget the movie name, but it was very good.
Posted By: Footreads

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/18/15 04:06 PM

I think this girl is the opposite. They could make an interesting movie about her.

Black people dislike her for obvious reasons. White people dislike her for reasons not so obvious.

Did she marry a black guy and have children with him?
Posted By: Footreads

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/18/15 04:18 PM

The movie was imitation of life.
Posted By: getthesenets

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/18/15 05:04 PM

Foot,

You should put a SPOILERS alert in your post about the film...for those who haven't seen it.


Imitation of Life was a great film...the mixed race woman was played by a White actress.
Posted By: Bookgirl

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/18/15 06:56 PM

I don't know, I mean on one hand as long as you are not hurting anybody then you should be free to live your life however you want (as crazy as you want).

But on the other hand I just can't help but think this whole thing just highlights this modern day mentality where if you don't like something physically about yourself then change it (and lie that you ever got it changed).

Whatever happened to learning to accept yourself the way you are?

I mean there are always going to be things about your body you don't like, but we are all going to get old anyway. We are all going to get gray hair, get wrinkled skin, etc. Physical beauty is so fleeting that it's overrated in my opinion.

Meanwhile your personality will last forever, and THAT'S what people should really focus more on improving.

Instead of spending thousands of dollars on looks which will fade anyway, maybe people should spend more time on fixing their rotten personalities which will never fad.

But I'm only 29 so you older people can feel free to jump on me if you want (EX: You'll think differently when you're older!) I just think society (and my fellow women especially) places way too much importance on how we look...when it really should be more on how we act.

As far as the woman in the article goes...I don't understand why she felt she had to lie and say she was black to be a member of the NAACP. Unless she just wanted that particular 'look', but then this is different then just dying your hair and claiming you're a blonde when you're really a brunette.

This is claiming you are a totally different race, and that is not acceptable in my opinion. You can admire a race without lying and claiming to be of that race. I personally think people of mixed race have such a beautiful skin tone, but as a white girl I'm not going to paint my skin and pretend to be something I'm not.

That's just crazy, and goes back to learning to accept yourself the way you are.
Posted By: cookcounty

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/18/15 09:04 PM

Originally Posted By: Footreads
I think this girl is the opposite. They could make an interesting movie about her.

Black people dislike her for obvious reasons. White people dislike her for reasons not so obvious.

Did she marry a black guy and have children with him?



black people ain't mad at her, she helped more blacks than she hurt

don't know where you got that story from
Posted By: rockstar_man45

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/18/15 09:55 PM

Originally Posted By: cookcounty
Originally Posted By: Footreads
I think this girl is the opposite. They could make an interesting movie about her.

Black people dislike her for obvious reasons. White people dislike her for reasons not so obvious.

Did she marry a black guy and have children with him?



black people ain't mad at her, she helped more blacks than she hurt

don't know where you got that story from


The point is cook she lied. She lied about who she was to gain favor and receive benefits in college and in the NAACP. She also lied about being the victim of hate crimes. As a black man cook, this should be insulting to you
Posted By: Faithful1

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/18/15 09:56 PM

Originally Posted By: getthesenets
Originally Posted By: getthesenets
and yeah F1

this stuff came out because she alleged that her p.o. box was filled with hate mail and evidence showed that only those with keys had access to it.


point by point breakdown by local media outlet that was behind the story

http://www.kxly.com/news/spokane-news/rachel-dolezal-the-story-behind-the-story/33608002


This is the crux of the story...all the interviews and revelations about sexuality and other smokescreens are just to deflect from Rachel being a LIAR. Worse than her lying about who she is and her background is her crying wolf about "hate mail" and "nooses" on her property. There is a REAL ugly history in this country of race riots,terrorism, violence,lynchings,etc.
These things are not to be trivialized...by ANYBODY. Her story has taken several bizarre and even comical twists and turns. On a surface, skin deep level(pun) it's a very funny story....but Rachel dishonors the generations of people who were victims of jim crow and klan fueled terror by LYING about being the target of hate crimes/intimidation.



Amen! Lying about racism whether it is someone falsely claiming to be black when she or he is not, or falsely claiming a crime was racially motivated when it was not, or faking a crime that never happened, all diminish real racism.

Yesterday in South Carolina an atrocity happened when a 21-year-old white gunman entered an AME church and murdered nine unarmed black people in cold blood while they were involved in a Bible study. Today while watching CNN I saw two different guests make unproven comparisons, the first compared this crime to the church burnings of the 1990s and the other said that the killer was influenced by hate media, specifically naming FOX News.

First, the nothing about the shooter's motivations have been released to the public, so we don't know what his specific motivations were. Since he murdered black people and he is white the motivation could have been racist, since he murdered people involved in a Bible study in a church the motivation could have been a hatred of Christianity, or it could have been a mix of both. He could also have been a paranoid schizophrenic who stopped taking his meds. So the politicians should not have prematurely asserted what the shooter's motivations were until we have all the facts.

Second, I watch CNN and Fox, and occasionally MSNBC, CNBC and Fox Business, and Fox's news stories do not promote hate but are just as fair as the other stations, maybe even more so. The Fox commentary shows, like O'Reilly, Hannity, etc., are generally pro-police and reflect a more conservative point of view, but nothing that promotes hate. If anything they are anti-hate. They do criticize MSNBC just as Sharpton and Maddow on MSNBC criticize Fox. I have issues with some Fox commentators myself, but what this politician did was to slander the network. We don't have any evidence that the shooter even watched Fox. We don't know what he watched or who he listened to. Moreover, Fox commentators could be described as slightly anti-Muslim, so how does this even relate to encouraging someone to fire on a church? It makes no sense at all. It is a rush to judgment, politicizing an issue and it reflects more on the politicians making the comments than the tragedy itself.

Third, if this was (again, we don't know yet) a terrorist attack by a demented individual, someone who is mentally ill and not necessarily racist, then it misdirects a possible solution by creating a false cause and focusing our attention on that. In the 1990s there was a rash of church burnings that were blamed on racism. It turned out that many of them were caused by a 13-year-old white girl who was motivated by Satanism, others by a fire fighter turned arsonist; there were a few fires committed by the KKK, but they were a significant minority. It also turned out there also a large number of white churches that were burned, but because the black churches were predominately made of wood they were easier targets. It also turned out that the historical numbers were within the norm, so there was no rash of burnings. President Bill Clinton claimed that in his youth he remembered church burnings in Arkansas. An investigation by the Arkansas Gazette showed that there weren't any. Washington Post writer James K. Glassman wondered if this was a diversionary tactic during the illegal use of FBI files scandal. At any rate, the arsons continued with many white churches being burned by practicing Satanist Jay Scott Bollinger and his stripper girlfriend Angela Wood.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/longterm/churches/churches.htm

http://archive.wilsonquarterly.com/in-essence/fires-time

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/691591/posts

http://www.nytimes.com/1996/06/12/us/arr...oners-pain.html

http://www.nytimes.com/1999/04/21/us/man...ghter-died.html

https://www.atf.gov/content/about/our-history/blast-from-the-past/historic-cases/church-arson

http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2000/decemberweb-only/35.0.html

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=95006

http://www.boogieonline.com/revolution/community/race/churches.html
Posted By: cookcounty

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/18/15 11:20 PM

@rockstar

why should i be insulted because a chick i never heard of wants to be black

i'm sure during her years at NAACP that she helped back people a few times

a non racist ain't insulting
Posted By: Faithful1

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/19/15 01:14 AM

@cookcounty - The problem is that she was a fraud, a liar, and possibly delusional. If she had just come clean about who she is then there wouldn't be a problem.
Posted By: Faithful1

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/19/15 02:12 AM

Here's what we do know about the racist shooter so far: He was racist, took psychotropic medication (for what?), and played video games (which ones? was he obsessed with them?): http://www.cbsnews.com/news/south-carolina-shooting-suspect-idd-as-dylann-storm-roof-21/
Posted By: rockstar_man45

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/19/15 02:18 AM

Originally Posted By: Faithful1
Here's what we do know about the racist shooter so far: He was racist, took psychotropic medication (for what?), and played video games (which ones? was he obsessed with them?): http://www.cbsnews.com/news/south-carolina-shooting-suspect-idd-as-dylann-storm-roof-21/


That evidence can suggest that his rage was racially motivated.

It also suggests he had mental problems and probably played violent video games. I certainly don't think he was into club penguin. The picture I'm getting is a disturbed individual who spent too much time on the wrong activities
Posted By: Faithful1

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/19/15 03:02 AM

According to one study, video games can make you racist or make your racism worse:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/20...y-says-yes.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/a...tudy-finds.html

http://www.adl.org/combating-hate/domestic-extremism-terrorism/c/racist-groups-use-computer.html

To Ten Racist Video Games (according to different sources):
http://gamingbolt.com/10-most-racist-vid...n=zergnet_25549

http://whatculture.com/gaming/10-blatantly-racist-video-games-2.php

http://www.complex.com/pop-culture/2012/06/the-10-most-racist-video-games/
Posted By: rockstar_man45

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/19/15 03:18 AM



Do you buy into that faithful?
Posted By: Faithful1

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/19/15 03:43 AM

It's known that watching violent movies can desensitize people to violence. Racist videos can promote false stereotypes and make them acceptable to young and weak people who don't have strong foundations. Not saying it's true for everyone, but for some it can certainly reinforce racist views just as they can reinforce violence. Adam Lanza, who was either autistic or had Asperger's Syndrome, was said to have developed his aim by watching violent videos. Read "On Killing" by Col. Dave Grossman.
Posted By: Footreads

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/19/15 10:38 AM

Living in the middle of violence can desensitize people to violence. Who needs a video game or a movie to do that?
Posted By: Footreads

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/19/15 10:43 AM

How much actual violence did that white kid actually do before he shoot those people in church? Outside of killing animals probably none.

What probably did it for him is watching tv last year and hearing black people say to no justice no peace. Like the anarchist al sharp ton and others. Plus the medication that he was taking or that he stopped taking.
Posted By: Footreads

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/19/15 10:47 AM

Now you will see a lot of already crazy black kids who are or should be on meds doing the same or similiar violence to innocent white people.pushed by anarchist talk. Same old anarchist that would never do violence themselves.
Posted By: Turnbull

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/19/15 05:43 PM

Originally Posted By: Faithful1
@cookcounty - The problem is that she was a fraud, a liar, and possibly delusional. If she had just come clean about who she is then there wouldn't be a problem.

Yes, fraud is the issue.

I refer you to Johnny Otis, a major figure in R&B history. He was born to Greek immigrant parents and was relatively dark-skinned. From an early age, he chose to identify with and live among blacks, and was instrumental in discovering and recording black artists. But he never tried to deceive anyone about his race--nor did he try to assume important positions in black institutions by posing as a born African-American:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Otis
Posted By: fergie

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/20/15 01:34 AM

What a great way to live you're life eh, you find something you are interested in and then just proclaim you're the same..

Hey, I'm a white, Scottish man, but Im really an Italian American gangster, and if I dress and act that way, you better agree! No wait, I'm a unicorn now....for fucks sake, why do we have to entertain these people
Posted By: thedudeabides87

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/20/15 01:40 AM

Something I find interesting is that this women is being accepted and praised by liberals and African Americans (apologies if I used the wrong nomenclature) but when an African American is conservative they are called an Uncle Tom or said they re trying to be white, obviously it is supposed to be an insult, how accepting the left can be.
Posted By: Faithful1

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/20/15 02:38 AM

It was either on CNN or MSNBC that Michael Eric Dyson and Toure were having a debate about her. Both are pretty far Left and they didn't agree. Dyson was kinda sorta defending her while Toure was calling her a fraud and a liar. Haven't heard any black conservative defend her, so all her defenders are on the Left, but not all those on the Left are defending her. It could be certain kinds of Left-wingers. Dyson is in the Marxist camp and Toure is more of a progressive socialist. Don Lemon is a CNN anchor who's on the center-Left and he doesn't defend her either.
Posted By: thedudeabides87

Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?! - 06/20/15 02:43 AM

I haven't been watching the news on this, certain "issues" I turn off when they come up. I just assumed this was being defended and praised because of this headline, though I didn't read the article, I should know that making assumptions only makes one thing out of me.
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