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Posted By: Binnie_Coll

bill cosby furor - 11/21/14 06:42 PM

18 women have come forward, all with the same story. drugged and raped. what do you make of all this about bill cosby?
Posted By: Holyoke

Re: bill cosby furor - 11/21/14 06:51 PM

Sounds like Doctor Huxtable had easy access to Rohypnol's. Fucking creep.
Posted By: ItalianIrishMix

Re: bill cosby furor - 11/21/14 06:55 PM

Guilty by reason of - TOO MANY ACCUSERS saying the exact same thing AND, He has not even denied it!

Remember Tiger Woods 12-15 accusers? Guilty!

Michael Jacksons 3-5 child accusers? Probably Guilty!

19 is a HUGE number! I can guarantee that the ONLY reason that he is staying silent IS, because if he speaks about it, he tone, emotion, and overall vibe is going to show the truth AND, he has been married to the love of his life apparently.....Camille will be gone and he knows it! That is why he isn't saying squat.
Posted By: Binnie_Coll

Re: bill cosby furor - 11/21/14 06:56 PM

well, even giving cosby the benefit of the doubt, my god 18 women, I could disregard 5 0r 6 but not i8. where there is this kind of smoke theres fire, not to mention he paid some off.
Posted By: pizzaboy

Re: bill cosby furor - 11/21/14 07:14 PM

Where there's smoke there's fire. Too bad the statutes are probably all up.
Posted By: Holyoke

Re: bill cosby furor - 11/21/14 07:17 PM

Exactly. And what are the chances these women/victims waited 40 years to come out. Unless it took them 40 years to get their stories straight. Since this has all come out, it's had me wondering why, and I can't remember her name, one of his daughters on the Cosby's left the show.
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: bill cosby furor - 11/21/14 07:24 PM

ZIP ZOP WOP BOOPITY BOP!
Posted By: Footreads

Re: bill cosby furor - 11/21/14 07:30 PM

Bill Clinton had a lot of accusers one was the actress who was the star of the highlander spinoff.

Internal revenue threatened to audit her father if she did not shut up. The Clinton campaign had a list of over 50 women who they kept track of.

Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: bill cosby furor - 11/21/14 07:37 PM

Amazing that the Clinton rape stories got swept under the carpet while Michael Moore released a series of books and movies slandering George Bush and making a litany of accusations against him.

While we are on the subject of skeletons in The Clinton's closet - what do people make of this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_of_Vince_Foster
Posted By: pizzaboy

Re: bill cosby furor - 11/21/14 07:41 PM

Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
Amazing that the Clinton rape stories got swept under the carpet while Michael Moore released a series of books and movies slandering George Bush and making a litany of accusations against him.

While we are on the subject of skeletons in The Clinton's closet - what do people make of this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_of_Vince_Foster

Hillary gave the order.
Posted By: Alfa Romeo

Re: bill cosby furor - 11/21/14 07:42 PM

Originally Posted By: Binnie_Coll
18 women have come forward, all with the same story. drugged and raped. what do you make of all this about bill cosby?


I think it's bogus. One of the most prominent accusers is Janice Dickinson. Since she's somewhat famous, her charges against Cosby might seem more credible, until you look into her past.

This lady was with Stallone and told him her child was his when it turns out it wasn't. She also said Stallone did steroids. Stallone called her a liar.

This lady said Bob Barker (from The Price is Right) coerced her into sex acts. But another woman claims that Janice performed oral sex on Bob Barker in her presence of her own free will.

Now she is claiming that Cosby drugged and raped her back in 82 and that she had to omit this from her book, probably due to pressure from the publisher. But instead of saying that Cosby raped her, she claimed that he actually rebuffed her advances and brushed her off. So which is it? Did he rape you and you woke up with semen dripping down your leg or did he brush you off? That's quite a contrast. It's one thing to omit a rape from your book. It's quite another to say you tried to get at someone and couldn't.

So she (Janice Dickinson) has no credibility. I don't trust the rest of the women accusing either. Why? Because of Tiger Woods.

With Tiger Woods, a bunch of women came out and said he fornicated with them. One of them was revealed to be someone who went to a bar with her boyfriend, and talked some random black guy into doing a porno with them. He agreed. So this fella being dark skinned uses body paint to lighten up his skin and impersonate Tiger Woods in a porno movie spoofing the golf great. She then takes this porno tape and tells the media that she has proof she was one of Tiger Wood's paramours. Unbelievable but true.

Based on people's propensity for lying against celebrities, whatever their ulterior motives, or whoever is behind them putting them up to it, I just don't see these allegations against Mr Bill Cosby as deserving of any serious merit unless someone can actually prove what they say. Period.

Posted By: njcapo35

Re: bill cosby furor - 11/21/14 07:47 PM

From one of is shows in 1969

Posted By: Binnie_Coll

Re: bill cosby furor - 11/21/14 07:53 PM

thanks for the video N.J.
Posted By: Holyoke

Re: bill cosby furor - 11/21/14 07:54 PM

Alfa, you believe that ALL these women made up these allegations? I would agree with you on Janice Dickinson being a little crazy. I don't think any of these women have much to gain by this. Who the hell wants publicity for being drugged and raped? If I was accused of drugging and raping 18 women and I didn't do it, I wouldn't keep quiet.
Posted By: njcapo35

Re: bill cosby furor - 11/21/14 07:55 PM

No prob...So the question is, Cosby innocent?....H-E-L-L-nO!
Posted By: Holyoke

Re: bill cosby furor - 11/21/14 08:00 PM

Innocent until proven guilty!! Haha we all know how that goes.
Posted By: Alfa Romeo

Re: bill cosby furor - 11/21/14 08:06 PM

Originally Posted By: Holyoke
Alfa, you believe that ALL these women made up these allegations? I would agree with you on Janice Dickinson being a little crazy. I don't think any of these women have much to gain by this. Who the hell wants publicity for being drugged and raped? If I was accused of drugging and raping 18 women and I didn't do it, I wouldn't keep quiet.


What we believe is irrelevant. If the man was on trial and his freedom was at stake, it would be wrong to imprison him unless these people can actually prove these allegations. If they all decided it wasn't worth mentioning (highly unusual) and kept it mum till now, then why now?

I remember the first round of allegations started right when Bill Cosby was attempting to buy NBC.
Posted By: Binnie_Coll

Re: bill cosby furor - 11/21/14 08:29 PM

[quote=njcapo35]No prob...So the question is, Cosby innocent?....H-E-L-L-nO! [/quot

my feeling exactly.
Posted By: Alfa Romeo

Re: bill cosby furor - 11/21/14 09:39 PM

Quote:
If I was accused of drugging and raping 18 women and I didn't do it, I wouldn't keep quiet.


You must be referring to defamation of character lawsuits, over ruining and tarnishing his brand. But does anyone realistically expect him (Cosby) who is worth A LOT of money to sue 18 crumbs who don't have a pot to piss in? He is supposed to hire a million dollar lawyer to drain his finances (after he already is losing lucrative deals over this) and prolong a scandal in the media which further damages his brand and cannot be proven either true or false? No, he wouldn't waste his time on that.
Posted By: olivant

Re: bill cosby furor - 11/21/14 09:39 PM

Ya'll should consider a few things: anything stated by anyone can be inculpatory and impugn one's defense in a criminal or civil proceeding. So, the least stated, the better.

In 1997, a federal prosecutor obtained a conviction of Autumn Jackson for trying to extort $40 million from Cosby by threatening to reveal that she was his illegitimate daughter.

Also, none of the 18(?) women who claim that Cosby raped or otherwise molested them requested prosecution of him and only one ever filed a lawsuit against him which was settled out of court. One of the alleged victims is Terese Serignese who continued to have a 20 year relationship with Cosby which included at least one sexual encounter.
Posted By: Alfa Romeo

Re: bill cosby furor - 11/21/14 09:42 PM

Originally Posted By: olivant
Ya'll should consider a few things: anything stated by anyone can be inculpatory and impugn one's defense in a criminal or civil proceeding. So, the least stated, the better.

In 1997, a federal prosecutor obtained a conviction of Autumn Jackson for trying to extort $40 million from Cosby by threatening to reveal that she was his illegitimate daughter.

Also, none of the 18(?) women who claim that Cosby raped or otherwise molested them requested prosecution of him and only one ever filed a lawsuit against him which was settled out of court. One of the alleged victims is Terese Serignese who continued to have a 20 year relationship with Cosby which included at least one sexual encounter.



Whamo!
Posted By: pizzaboy

Re: bill cosby furor - 11/21/14 09:47 PM

Originally Posted By: olivant
Ya'll should consider a few things: anything stated by anyone can be inculpatory and impugn one's defense in a criminal or civil proceeding.

Thanks, Carm grin.

Posted By: olivant

Re: bill cosby furor - 11/21/14 10:37 PM

Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Originally Posted By: olivant
Ya'll should consider a few things: anything stated by anyone can be inculpatory and impugn one's defense in a criminal or civil proceeding.

Thanks, Carm grin.


Never forget:

"... a pint of blood costs more than a gallon of gold."
Posted By: pizzaboy

Re: bill cosby furor - 11/21/14 10:42 PM

Originally Posted By: olivant
Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Originally Posted By: olivant
Ya'll should consider a few things: anything stated by anyone can be inculpatory and impugn one's defense in a criminal or civil proceeding.

Thanks, Carm grin.


Never forget:

"... a pint of blood costs more than a gallon of gold."

That's a classic grin.
Posted By: bigboy

Re: bill cosby furor - 11/22/14 12:07 PM

Notice that all of the victims are white ???
Posted By: BlackFamily

Re: bill cosby furor - 11/22/14 12:58 PM

I just don't get it. Why and all of the sudden now , wait 30 years to report a rape when Cosby is ole enough to plead senile rolleyes
He hasn't spoken on it yet, but I have my doubts. 18 came out with the same similar story within a short period of time. confused It's just the timing of this and his shows are quite a coincidence to me.
Posted By: pizzaboy

Re: bill cosby furor - 11/22/14 01:07 PM

Originally Posted By: BlackFamily
I just don't get it. Why and all of the sudden now , wait 30 years to report a rape when Cosby is ole enough to plead senile rolleyes
He hasn't spoken on it yet, but I have my doubts. 18 came out with the same similar story within a short period of time. confused It's just the timing of this and his shows are quite a coincidence to me.

When the story was first posted here a few weeks ago I dismissed it as the work of a failed actress looking for publicity. But as I posted yesterday, where there's smoke there's fire. So I'm not so sure anymore.

Let's put it this way: I really HOPE that it isn't true. But nothing shocks me anymore, especially with your Hollywood types.
Posted By: SC

Re: bill cosby furor - 11/22/14 01:20 PM

Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
When the story was first posted here a few weeks ago I dismissed it as the work of a failed actress looking for publicity. But as I posted yesterday, where there's smoke there's fire. So I'm not so sure anymore.


Same for me. I'd be disappointed to find out that all this is true considering that Cosby seems to be very "parental". But, sad to say, little surprises me anymore.
Posted By: Binnie_Coll

Re: bill cosby furor - 11/22/14 03:20 PM

I think most of these cases were before dna testing, now, I don't think they can find any dna now anywhere can they?
Posted By: olivant

Re: bill cosby furor - 11/22/14 03:28 PM

Originally Posted By: Binnie_Coll
I think most of these cases were before dna testing, now, I don't think they can find any dna now anywhere can they?


DNA can remain intact for a very long time. It depends on the environemnt in which it is maintained.

As I posted above though, in lieu of DNA testing, it would seem that out of 18 claimants, at least one would have pursued a prosecution.
Posted By: Beanshooter

Re: bill cosby furor - 11/22/14 03:28 PM

Good point Binnie, unless they have a sample saved ala the Monica Lewinsky dress.
Posted By: Binnie_Coll

Re: bill cosby furor - 11/22/14 03:29 PM

oli. more than one did, and the claims were settled out of court.
Posted By: olivant

Re: bill cosby furor - 11/22/14 05:15 PM

Originally Posted By: Binnie_Coll
oli. more than one did, and the claims were settled out of court.


No, you're wrong. Only Andrea Constand ever did and that was in 2006.
Posted By: Binnie_Coll

Re: bill cosby furor - 11/22/14 05:34 PM

hmm,i thought there were more. ill have to check that out. maybe your right.
Posted By: cookcounty

Re: bill cosby furor - 11/22/14 06:00 PM

Originally Posted By: SC
Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
When the story was first posted here a few weeks ago I dismissed it as the work of a failed actress looking for publicity. But as I posted yesterday, where there's smoke there's fire. So I'm not so sure anymore.


Same for me. I'd be disappointed to find out that all this is true considering that Cosby seems to be very "parental". But, sad to say, little surprises me anymore.



ain't looking good for billy boy
Posted By: Alfa Romeo

Re: bill cosby furor - 11/23/14 12:59 AM

Originally Posted By: cookcounty
Originally Posted By: SC
Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
When the story was first posted here a few weeks ago I dismissed it as the work of a failed actress looking for publicity. But as I posted yesterday, where there's smoke there's fire. So I'm not so sure anymore.


Same for me. I'd be disappointed to find out that all this is true considering that Cosby seems to be very "parental". But, sad to say, little surprises me anymore.



ain't looking good for billy boy


You know what CookCounty.....you're right. This guy is looking more and more guilty every day.
Posted By: Binnie_Coll

Re: bill cosby furor - 11/23/14 03:00 PM

I never did like him. I always thought he disliked white people.
Posted By: DonMega1888

Re: bill cosby furor - 11/23/14 08:20 PM

Posted By: LugsBrannigan

Re: bill cosby furor - 11/23/14 09:36 PM

Guilty as sin, if not why would he have even paid 1 cent to settle out of court....it's an admission of sorts wouldn't you agree?
Posted By: Ama_Gi

Re: bill cosby furor - 11/24/14 06:59 AM

Originally Posted By: Binnie_Coll
I never did like him. I always thought he disliked white people.


That's strange, Many African-Americans would say that Cosby dislikes black people. He's received tons of flack in the past decade of being extremely critical of "black culture", in a pretty famous speech refered to as "the pound cake speech", Cosby critized African-Americans of putting more important on money, jewellery and fame than on family and education, as well as criticising African-American males for being responsible for a majority of single parent families.
Posted By: Beanshooter

Re: bill cosby furor - 11/24/14 08:52 AM

Originally Posted By: Ama_Gi
Originally Posted By: Binnie_Coll
I never did like him. I always thought he disliked white people.


That's strange, Many African-Americans would say that Cosby dislikes black people. He's received tons of flack in the past decade of being extremely critical of "black culture", in a pretty famous speech refered to as "the pound cake speech", Cosby critized African-Americans of putting more important on money, jewellery and fame than on family and education, as well as criticising African-American males for being responsible for a majority of single parent families.


Just my thoughts and opiniont, but could the above be the reason that the liberal media is bringing up these old allegations and relentlessly reporting them in order to attack and deminish what Cosby has been saying? Just like the similar attacks on Adam West, Ben Carson and other black conservatives who are not part of the liberal mind set? Just my opinion.
Posted By: Ama_Gi

Re: bill cosby furor - 11/24/14 09:02 AM

Originally Posted By: Beanshooter
Originally Posted By: Ama_Gi
Originally Posted By: Binnie_Coll
I never did like him. I always thought he disliked white people.


That's strange, Many African-Americans would say that Cosby dislikes black people. He's received tons of flack in the past decade of being extremely critical of "black culture", in a pretty famous speech refered to as "the pound cake speech", Cosby critized African-Americans of putting more important on money, jewellery and fame than on family and education, as well as criticising African-American males for being responsible for a majority of single parent families.


Just my thoughts and opiniont, but could the above be the reason that the liberal media is bringing up these old allegations and relentlessly reporting them in order to attack and deminish what Cosby has been saying? Just like the similar attacks on Adam West, Ben Carson and other black conservatives who are not part of the liberal mind set? Just my opinion.


Are you suggesting that media conglomerates are paying 18 former actresses from the 70s and a small time comedian to make rape accusations because Cosby made politically incorrect comments in 2006?
Posted By: Beanshooter

Re: bill cosby furor - 11/24/14 09:07 AM

No, just wondering why after all this time is this coming out.
Posted By: Ama_Gi

Re: bill cosby furor - 11/24/14 10:31 AM

Originally Posted By: Beanshooter
No, just wondering why after all this time is this coming out.


Well, my guess would be that some of his victims no longer feel isolated by their assault after seeing another victim speak out, not a global conspiracy by left-wing communists to sway public opinion because Mr. Huxtable said African-Americans should focus on family wink
Posted By: olivant

Re: bill cosby furor - 11/24/14 02:09 PM

Originally Posted By: Beanshooter
No, just wondering why after all this time is this coming out.


Think about this. According to Linda Traitz's story recently told by her, in 1969 Cosby assaulted her. However, in 2012 she just got out after serving a 5 year stint in prison for ... fraud. According to Andrea Constance, in 2005 Cosby offered her a pill, and she took it. According to Janice Dickinson, when she was out to dinner with Cosby in 1982, she asked Cosby for a pill because she was having menstrual cramps. Lo and behold, Cosby just happened to have some pills with him and he offered her a pill. By the way, she took it even though she had just spent some time in drug rehab.

Well, who knows!
Posted By: Binnie_Coll

Re: bill cosby furor - 11/24/14 08:11 PM

oli, two more women have came out saying cosby groped them,
michelle hurd, and angela leslie, also frank scotti, an nbc employee says cosby gave him money numerous time to pay off women.

sounds like you may be in denial about this serial rapist.
Posted By: pizzaboy

Re: bill cosby furor - 11/24/14 08:24 PM

Michelle Hurd said that? I always liked her. She was on the first season of "SVU," but they got rid of her to make room for Ice-T.
Posted By: Binnie_Coll

Re: bill cosby furor - 11/24/14 08:36 PM

yes, michelle hurd said he groped her. Im reading it on msn.
Posted By: pizzaboy

Re: bill cosby furor - 11/24/14 08:43 PM

Originally Posted By: Binnie_Coll
yes, michelle hurd said he groped her. Im reading it on msn.

Well, I have to say, she's the most reputable accuser to come forward yet. She's a fairly busy actress so I doubt it's about money.
Posted By: Binnie_Coll

Re: bill cosby furor - 11/24/14 09:12 PM

yes, she's very truthful, did you hear of the nbc employee don scotti? you have to check that out, it's really damaging to cosby.
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