Amanda Knox may be extradited. That is why

http://news.panorama.it/cronaca/amanda-knox-estradizione

Here's what the law requires, that governs relations between Italy and the United States-

"They want me in jail. But I will be a fugitive." These were the wordsa few hours before the verdict of the Court of Assizes of Appeal of Florence for the murder of Meredith Kercher, Amanda Knox pronounced in an interview via Skype on the New York Times. Amanda, in front of the camera, is confident and determined. "Nothing can erase the experience of being unjustly imprisoned, and for this reason I will never go back to Italy," continued the young man from in Seattle that, waiting for the reading of the verdict, could not resist the temptation to change their look making even accompany to the hairdresser.

But the American student that for years has convinced an entire nation of his innocence, in recent months has begun to lose credibility among American public opinion. For the U.S. media, in fact, the granitic image of the girl wrongly accused began to crumble.
Many newspapers and television, which for years had defended describing it as a "victim" of the Italian judicial system, they began to speak of her as an evil person, as a perfect assassin.
A definition that the girl with the chameleonic look , however, has never accepted. "I'm not so - reiterates in the interview at the NY Times - are different from how has painted." But now there is a judgment, the process "bis", that the convict her to 28 years and six months in prison.

And 'now, however, in view of his statements and some of historical precedents between Italy and the U.S. starting questions: Amanda Knox serve the sentence in Italian prison facilities? The Italian judiciary will be able to bring in the Belpaese, or how they think the majority of Italians, the beautiful American student will be able to "get away"?

Just the execution of the sentence, the story of Amanda Knox will be destined to create controversy and maybe even diplomatic friction between our country and the U.S., as has already happened in the past for the other two cases: the massacre of Cermis, and murder of the agent of SISMI, the Italian intelligence services, Nicola Calipari.
In both cases, the diplomats of the two countries have had to 'work' to recognize the faults of American citizens. And in the case of Cermis the four officers responsible for the deaths of 20 people, have never claimed a trial in Italian territory, a country where the massacre had taken place.

Slaughter of Cermis: February 3, 1998 a military aircraft Grumman EA-6B Prowler U.S. cut the cable of the Cermis cable car in Val di Fiemme Cavalese and causes the death of 20 people. The plane took off from Aviano Air Base at 14:36; During a training flight at low altitude, cut off the ropes of the lower trunk of the Cermis cable car. The cabin, in which there were twenty people, fell from a height of about 150 meters and crashed to the ground after a flight time of 7 seconds. The aircraft, damaged the wing and tail, however, was able to return to base. Despite the presence of witnesses, the sequence of events appeared not immediately clear.

Only the readiness of judges of Trentino, who immediately seized the plane indicted in Aviano base, allowed to clarify the responsibilities. In fact, the plane was ready to be disassembled and repaired. The Italian prosecutors demanded to process the four marines in Italy, but the judge for preliminary investigations of Trent held that, under the Convention of London of 19 June 1951 on the status of military NATO should recognize the jurisdiction over the case to the military justice U.S.. The incident created a climate of high tension between the U.S. and Italian. The President of the United States of America Bill Clinton apologized for the incident just a few days later, and promised the victims' families, monetary compensation. After a few weeks the Prime Minister, Romano Prodi at the time along with a representative of the Italian government, flew in U.S.

Calipari case:
Nicola Calipari was killed in Baghdad, March 4, 2005 by a U.S. soldier during the phase immediately following release of the journalist of Il Manifesto, Sgrena.
The story immediately creates strong diplomatic friction between Italy and the United States of America, as in the case of Cermis. The Italian judiciary opened an investigation into the matter immediately, indicting the soldier Mario Lozano for the murder of Calipari and the attempted murder of Giuliana Sgrena and the driver, Andrea Carpani, the Major of the Carabinieri, in force to the SISMI, both injured.

But they were made two versions of what happened, one Italian and one American, among them many conflicting points. The Prosecutor's Office of Rome June 19, 2006 formalizing the request for trial by the U.S. military Mario Lozano. But Mario Lozano is impossible to find: is the lack of collaboration, demand and not obtained from the United States. The U.S. authorities also rejected an international rogatory presented by the Prosecutor of Rome. By judgment of 19 June 2008, the First Criminal Chamber of the Supreme Court rejects the appeal of the Prosecutor of Rome, confirming the lack of jurisdiction on the Italian case.
And now there's another court case that links Italy to the USA, that of Amanda Knox.


Lawyer Stefano Toniolo, criminal lawyer of the law firm Martinez and Novebaci,


Amanda Knox was convicted, but she from Seattle was categorical, and has made it known that won't return to Italy. Amanda is now technically a fugitive?

"No, it is not a fugitive, until final judgment of the Supreme Court. The judges of the Court of Assizes and Appeal of Florence in the reading of the sentence were very clear and specified that Amanda Knox is "legitimately" in his country "

What tools has at its disposal, the Italian judiciary to demand the return to Italy of Amandaso discounts worth in Italian prisons?

"It will take the judgment of the Supreme Court and if it is confirmed the judgment of the court of Florence, can be applied, an Convention stipulated with the U.S. in 1983 and entered into force the following yearthat regulates the extradition in cases where the sentence exceeds one year in prison. Not only that, the extradition is also provided for all those offenses which are consider yourself even those in the U.S., so even in the case of Amanda Knox, with the only exception, for the political and military crimes "

Many Italians believe and fear that there may be a Cermis "bis"?

"The Convention of '83, excludes from the Treaty, the military offenses and the massacre of Cermis, fell under this category. This is a completely different case and I think it's difficult not to be granted the extradition considering the relations between the two countries even though in the network, at this time, circulating dissenting views. Distinguished criminal lawyers argue that the extradition could be hampered by an incompatibility between the US-Italian treaties and the U.S. Constitution on due process. In this case, if Amanda was not extradited, Italy has the opportunity to request the execution of the sentence in American prisons. I think the latter is the most likely hypothesis "

There is a risk of diplomatic tension between Italy and U.S.?

"It 's very difficult for this to happen but now we are still in the field of hypotheses. Maybe some tension may also occur into account very strong commitment on the part of the American media in the fight for the innocence of Knox. But then again, now it is still very early. We must wait for the judgment of the Supreme Court. "

I didn't follow the case too closely so i really don't know what they had on her and the details of the case.

But if she did it...fuck her..you guys can have her. As long as theres evidence to back up the conviction.

I agree with that 1000 percent. I couldn't care less about karma catching up with any murderer. But I still don't think we'll extradite. Just my gut feeling .

They actually have very little on her, in terms of evidence. However, Knox continually changed her alibi, had conflicting stories with her ex boyfriend, made a confession under duress- which was later recanted, she falsely accused her boss of committing the murder, admitted to being under the influence of drugs and booze during the night in question, turned off her cell phone, and there's still confusion as to her whereabouts during the night. Plus, there's debate over whether the knife obtained from her ex boyfriend's house was really the murder weapon, and the dna evidence was supposedly tainted. Some say the media circus surrounding the case made it impossible for her to receive a fair trial.

While she cannot prove that she was not involved, the authorities seemingly cannot prove that she was involved, nor even had a motive. The theory of a group sex game gone bad is a bit of a stretch. Which brings us to the issue of presumed innocence until proven guilty, or vice versa?

This is a unique site as we have members in the US, UK, and Italy. Supposedly, the public perception about her guilt differs in these countries, so I'm interested in how she has been portrayed in the UK and Italy.

Thanks Giancarlo e Pizzaboy for the support





Little Man, if the Supreme Court says that you have to redo the process, a reason, or rather more than one there will be also the Knox family hired a well-known public relations spending more than a million dollars to make the story of amanda ,the story that you americans like so much, the poor Yankee girl, innocent who must fight against an unjust system in a third world country.

Guede only for the summary procedure was sentenced to only 16 years for complicity in murder and sexual assault by a judgment of the Supreme Court, First Criminal Division, dated December 16, 2010.

For others who are in favor or against the extradition of Knox, and remembering that the real victim here is Meredith Kercher, that is dead, and no sentence will bring her the affection of his loved ones.

Here is the reconstruction of events.

" According to the reconstruction, Knox and Sollecito, on the evening of 1 November 2007, meet in Piazza Grimana with Guede, Knox's friend, who decides to join them for the evening. The three travel to the student's home, where her roommate Meredith Kercher,had recently returned after an evening spent with her british friends, immediately noticed her presence as the door of her room was ajar.

Knox and Sollecito exchange effusions and intimate tenderness, while Guede is in the bathroom, as found in the investigation. Guede, probably excited by the outpourings of Sollecito and Knox, would be entered into the Kercher's room, groped for an approach, but, in front of his refusal, he would taken violent behavior to groped to rape her.
At the cries of Kercher, Knox and Sollecito would joiny with Guede,in the criminal action, in that they would find an "exciting situation", so trying to immobilize with the threat of a knife.

The situation would have degenerated to the continued resistance of the Kercher. The Knox with the kitchen knife affects the victim in the neck, causing it life-threatening injuries, though the death takes place after a long and excruciating agony. The three defendants, immediately after the murder, to steal mobile phones, for fear of generating alarm from someone that call her no answer, devices that will be found in a ravine just a few hundred meters from the scene of the crime. The three head off in different directions, Guede in a nightclub , Knox and Sollecito at the Sollecito's house. The next morning the two attempt to erase the traces of the crime and then break a window of the house to stage a fake robbery in order to sidetrack the investigation "

oh good looks like i'm not the only person that didn't know what was going on and didn't really care.


....is she the american version of joran van der sloot?

That's one case where I'm happy the scumbag got caught in South America instead of here. Hopefully those Peruvian guards are passing him around like a bottle of pisco right now.

Countries quite often refuse to extradite people to the united states and it doesn't end in international crisis. Britain just did it recently because the defendant was depressed or something.

As for this case, I can't for the life of me figure out the Italian appellate process. How did the trial court find guilty and the appeals court find acquittal? Appeals courts in the states don't find guilt or innocence- that is for the finder of fact. Instead, they either affirm or order new trials based on technical or legal problems with the underlying case. So is the media reporting this incorrectly or does each level of the appeals process have some sort of bizarre finder of fact power? Is each successive appeal considered by the court de novo? If it was a retrial, did the appeals court find a technical error or can they weight the evidence?

is a serious thing, if you do not care, patience, but there are people, I for one, which involves, first, because is dead a poor innocent girl, second, because those who killed her have dedicated to her a movie, third, because it seems that our legal system is the third world, not even when the U.S. is an example of perfection.
If I had the means to do so, I'd take that son of a bitch, and I would bring at force in Italy,or if will serve the sentence in the United States, I hope he being raped by guards and beaten by other inmates.

This is what i responded with in the GD thread, to be honest i'm confused why this is in the OC section .


I have to say Furio that i'm not biased in the slightest regarding this case. If i was it'd most likely be against Knox since it was a British girl murdered, but quite simply the evidence isn't there. I don't buy into these PR campaigns that portray Knox as an angel, and i certainly don't think Italy is a 3rd world country. Thisis from wikipedia, According to the prosecution's reconstruction, Knox had attacked Kercher, repeatedly banged her head against a wall, forcefully held her face, tried to remove her clothes, cut her with a knife, inflicted the fatal stab wound, and then took her two mobile phones and faked a burglary.[146] Guede's shoe prints, fingerprints, and DNA were found in the bedroom, his DNA was found on Kercher and her clothing, and his skin cells were inside her body. Guede's DNA mixed with Kercher's was in bloodstains on the inside of her shoulder bag.[147] No shoe prints, clothing fibers, hairs, fingerprints, skin cells or DNA of Knox were found on Kercher or in the room. The prosecution alleged that all forensic traces in the bedroom which incriminated Knox had been wiped away by her and Sollecito -

It's crazy that Knox and Sollecito were so thorough yet Guede left all of the incriminating evidence related to him there. The reconstruction is ridiculous. I can't say without a doubt that she's not guilty, but i also don't believe there's enough evidence for her to be convicted.

I pretty much agree with whats been said here, if she's guilty then she should be extradited and spend the rest of her days in a cell. I don't believe there's enough evidence to convit her though, there was alot of unanswered questions and suspicious activity from her leading up to the original trial, but i'm still confused what they believe they have on her.

All 3 countries medias have handled all of this poorly imo, as usual . When it just happened it was never out of the papers, the British media pretty much ran with the sex game theory as if it was fact. The Majority of the attention was on Knox, Sollecitto was only really mentioned because he was her boyfriend and Guede who most of the evidence points towards was barely mentioned. As expected they pretty much portrayed her as a demon-whore

Camarel i remember reading about some sex angle to the case. What were they having an orgy or something?

Shit maybe got out of hand? I did read some crazy stuff but i have no idea whats true or not.

The theory is that Knox and Sollecito tried to force Kercher to play some sort of sex game, and that after she resisted Knox stabbed her. There is no evidence at all that this happened, it's just a theory and apparent motive that the prosecutors have threw out. I believe it was most likely that the drifter Rudy Guede tried to rape her and after resistance murdered her, here's a short article that summarizes the theory - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/l...th-Kercher.html

Here in Britain the media has vilified Knox but our media is arguably the worlds biggest stirrer.

I think the USA may extradite her simply to keep the peace because if they refuse the next time the USA requests extradition from another country they may get rebuffed

We already are getting rebuffed by North Korea. Russia isn't handing over Plowden to us either and that guy leaked national secrets.

Italy is in a turmoil with its economy so they aren't exactly in the position to demand us to hand her over.

There'll be no extradition.

Compare this case to that of Rosario Gambino. It took 8years to extradite his ass back to Italy and he was convicted of a $1.5 BILLION HEROIN pipeline and WASNT even a citizen!

For a contentious murder case for a young American girl? No chance.

Pun intended?

Another theory is that Amanda and the murder victim had been arguing about cleanliness. Then, on that fateful night, Amanda returns home to find some poop floating in an unflushed toilet- courtesy of Kercher's date, Rudy Guede. Because of this, Amanda snaps and goes into a violent rage....

they need to send this crazy bitch back to where she likes to kill people

this demented tramp went to Italy, killed and innocent little girl then runs home

Have you read this cook? According to the prosecution's reconstruction, Knox had attacked Kercher, repeatedly banged her head against a wall, forcefully held her face, tried to remove her clothes, cut her with a knife, inflicted the fatal stab wound, and then took her two mobile phones and faked a burglary.[146] Guede's shoe prints, fingerprints, and DNA were found in the bedroom, his DNA was found on Kercher and her clothing, and his skin cells were inside her body. Guede's DNA mixed with Kercher's was in bloodstains on the inside of her shoulder bag.[147] No shoe prints, clothing fibers, hairs, fingerprints, skin cells or DNA of Knox were found on Kercher or in the room. The prosecution alleged that all forensic traces in the bedroom which incriminated Knox had been wiped away by her and Sollecito -

There's virtually no evidence connecting her to the crime. What makes you so sure of her guilt?

The only way a normal person could have pulled that off is if she had experience in that area of eliminating all DNA. I doubt she had anything to do with it.

but if she did, maybe she knew a made guy that knew how to clean up? I mean we are talking about Italy..

The full case is ridiculous. If her and Sollecito were involved and they'd got rid of the evidence, surely they would have done the same for Guede so he wouldn't give them up.

Why is this in the OC section. Is she a secretly made Lucchese member or something?

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LaLouisiane the fact that Italy's economy in turmoilnot isn't a good reason because the US and Italy signed an extradition treaty in 1983, now unless the United States consider themselves superior and want to look from top to bottom.
Given that the traits are based on an equal position, and since we aren't a third world country, don't want to extradite him, ok then tell us why ,and if consider barbaric our prisons, for me alright, she can also serve the sentence in america, however, is Amanda Knox was sentenced to 28 years and 6 mounth in prison and not to life.

Furio, I'm just curious...in Italy, what is the reaction towards Amanda? Innocent or guilty? Is she receiving the bulk of the media attention in Italy, or is the local guy, Sollecito, getting more press?

Little Man must know that the Americans have always been seen as arrogant and bullies, and especially after the case Cermis the Calipari Case and the Abu Omar case we have the impression that Americans can do anything with impunity.
So when Knox and Sollecito were "acquitted" (a process in which the Supreme Court said that needs to be redone because illegitimate), there were a lot of controversy, and especially after it was learned that Amanda was not only seen as a heroine in the States, but they had also dedicated a movie, well, I tend to lean toward guilty, and many think that the United States will not grant extradition because it think are superior and it consider a B series country.
As to say that the beautiful Yankee girl, killed with impunity, going to hide by the Uncle Sam, and that the poor fool Italian remained alone with the black to take the faults, that however,they have. That's the truth.

What makes you lean toward guilty? There's next to no evidence against her. If she's guilty then i completely agree, she should be extradited and jailed. I'm not convinced of either her or Sollecito's guilt though, and i'm confused why she has been found guilty twice by the Italian courts. I'd also suggest at least hearing whether she is extradited or not, something there's no indication yet whether it will or won't happen, before you start your anti-american rants.

@Furio

I already told you the other day that I'm pretty much in agreement with you. If she did it, Italy can have her and lock her away until she's a hundred years old for all I care. But you're making WAAAAAAAY too much out of the movie.

You have to understand one thing about the American media culture today: Every nitwit that attains fifteen minutes of fame ends up with a Lifetime movie or a reality show. Those bloodsucking leeches in Hollywood will put anything on television that attracts ratings. It has absolutely nothing to do with with misguided patriotism. If anything, Hollywood is filled with some of the most unpatriotic people you'll ever meet.

Well said PB. It's a random tv movie - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1783413/ .

I assure you, even though i'm not American i can say that most Americans most likely haven't heard of her, and the rest are probably evenly split between her being guilty and innocent. The 2 countries who care so much about this case are clearly the UK and Italy, and both have convicted Knox and Sollecito on next to no evidence.

PB...shouldn't you be at the airport getting out of town before the next wave of snow hits town?

Damn buddy...go for that sun and your next post i hopes comes from a sunny florida beach!

Furio...you tell our friends in Italy to send me an assortment of some fine Italian cheeses, some vino and a couple cases of those oranges shipped from sicily with the "special" extra ingredient ....and i'll be more then happy to personally deliver that alleged murderer to my paison in Italy.

Seriously though, i caught a interview she did and she definitely comes off as a cold bitch. Not that being a bitch makes her a murderer....i know plenty that aren't. But i can understand why most Italians dislike her so much.

I completely agree with the last part of your comment. She comes across as a cold bitch, i completely believe that she was fine after the murder and was joking around with Sollecitto. I also cringed when she did the cartwheel after being released. Then again i believe there's a good chance that she's completely innocent and that she sent 2 years in jail for no reason. I ask again what evidence has she been convicted on exactly?

I read that link you posted yesterday Camarel about the cases sex angle....thanks. I laughed when they mentioned her vibrator. What the hell does a vibrator have to do with any of this? lol

Shes a Slut!!!

Well thats cool...i wonder what she's doing this weekend ....Mrs GC is going to visit her sister so i have some free time.

Just kidding!

haha i hope mrs.GC doesn't read ur posts on this site....my girlfriend is always asking me what im always doing on my laptop all the time, i just tell her im looking at porn lol.

Del when i'm home i'm usually hiding in my man cave....Mrs GC has had her access revoked!!

haha good man, unfortunately no man cave for me, live in a small apartment with the girlfriend and another roommate whos also a girl...both gorgeous girls...sounds like a dream come true right? Wrong!!!

That would be just as bad as telling your girlfriend your masturbating while shes watching wendy williams. Why look on porn dell go woo your women the goodfella's can wait

Well alot of women when incarcerated don't trust using vibrators that are getting passed around. I'm sure there not sterilized but I'm sure they can find a friend in there.

wendy williams??? if i ever catch my girl watching dat bolshit she knows she has beating coming!

It's part of her demon-whore image . Seriously though i'd like to bump this question for Furio, I ask again what evidence has she been convicted on exactly? I have no idea why Furio is so desperate for her to be extradited, when he himself can't even say he is convinced that she's guilty. If she is extradited i don't see her being released again, but i don't think anyone could say that the Italian courts have proven her guilt.

I was obviously incorrect in my thinking....but I thought that the UK would have been pleased that Rudy Guede is locked up-case closed. And I thought that Italy would have been angry about Sollecito being convicted on virtually no evidence.

The prosecutors cannot even come up with a reasonable motive. Simply Google "Amanda Knox unflushed toilet". People don't get whacked over unflushed toilets.

Camarel I'm not desperate for the extradition,is just for justice.

I had no time because I'm preparing for university exams, but I will try to find the text of the two judgments and translate it for you for see the evidence for the guilt of Knox and Sollecito.

Furio, I believe that Camarel was curious as to why you believe Knox (and Sollecito) are guilty-not the judge's opinion, but yours. Just off the top of your head, what physical or forensic evidence were they convicted with?

I understand there were circumstantial evidence used to convict them, but those aren't usually enough for a murder conviction. Hence, the widespread controversy and media coverage.

That's exactly right, Little Man. I'm not asking you to repeat what the judge said, i'm asking you. What convinces you of her guilt? The fact is all you have said so far is that you lean towards guilt. So can you say it's for justice when you can't even say yourself that you're convinced?

Amanda Knox didn't do it. She not guilty that black guy did it !

That's pretty much it

Well according to Sarah Silverman:

"Everybody blames the Jews for killing Christ, and then the Jews try to pass it off on the Romans. I'm one of the few people that believe it was the blacks."

she's guilty.....just like george zimmerman, oj simpson, and casey anthony

What exactly convinces you of her guilt cook, are you even the slightest bit familiar with the case? Have you read this - According to the prosecution's reconstruction, Knox had attacked Kercher, repeatedly banged her head against a wall, forcefully held her face, tried to remove her clothes, cut her with a knife, inflicted the fatal stab wound, and then took her two mobile phones and faked a burglary.[146] Guede's shoe prints, fingerprints, and DNA were found in the bedroom, his DNA was found on Kercher and her clothing, and his skin cells were inside her body. Guede's DNA mixed with Kercher's was in bloodstains on the inside of her shoulder bag.[147] No shoe prints, clothing fibers, hairs, fingerprints, skin cells or DNA of Knox were found on Kercher or in the room. The prosecution alleged that all forensic traces in the bedroom which incriminated Knox had been wiped away by her and Sollecito -

So what evidence has you convinced that she's guilty? I'm assuming this is just another one of your knee-jerk reactions, when you get all outraged even though you're not quite sure what your outraged about .

@camarel

innocent people don't change their alibi

either she was getting a train ran on her at the time of the murder or not

According to one article i read....at first she said she was there and then named a guy as the killer. Then she changed her story. What was up with that?

This woman should just keep her mouth shut...the more i hear her try to explain stuff the more i don't like her.

I think that Amanda and Sollecito are guilty,because first he accused Patrick lumumba,after change idea.
Now if is only Guede that killed Meredith,;
Why Amanda and Raffaele don't stop him? And why they create a false burglary?
Why Amanda don't want to turn back to italy ?
If I'm innocent,I'll turn back to to prove my full innocence ?
even if they don't directly killed Meredith,are Guede's accomplices , however, and have to pay for it.

That's what I think Camarel

None of that is even close to proving beyond a reasonable doubt that shes guilty, in the US you probably wouldnt even get an indictment on that evidence let alone a guilty verdict.

Yes, some of the issues listed by Furio are why there are questions surrounding Sollecito and Knox's innocence- particularly the fake burglary and falsely accusing her boss. If you are guilty until proven innocent, then I would understand their guilt. However, in Italy, if you are innocent until proven guilty, then there should be more evidence for a murder conviction.

As far as Knox not returning to Italy for the retrial, I understand as per Italian law, it wasn't necessary. So, I'm confused how that could be used against her in determining guilt. I know I wouldn't return, regardless if I was guilty or innocent.

As far as why Knox and Sollecito didn't save Kercher, I believe they claimed that they weren't in the house when the murder occurred.

I think people are confused on what burglary she admitted to staging, if not then you're randomly accusing her of staging some burglary related to the murder that yet again there's not the slightest bit of evidence for, here is an article that speaks about the fake burglary she admitted to staging - http://truejustice.org/ee/documents/perugia/amanda-knox-admits-staging-burglary.html .

Regarding her false accusation against Lumumba, she claims it was made after threats from the Italian police. Whether you believe her or not about that, she also said this - "Granted, I was in a position where I couldn't give answers. But if you read what I said after my interrogations, I said I could not testify against him, and yet his lawyer continues to say I was going to let him languish in prison... ", that's easily verifiable that she refused to testify against him before he had been ruled out as a suspect. Take from that what you will, but i personally can't rule out that she initially named Lumumba under duress.

You have also connected Knox and Sollecito to the murder, solely on Guede's word, who is the only person that has any physical evidence against him. The person who has changed his story multiple times is Guede, he has turned his story from him being completely innocent to him being just an accomplice of Knox and Sollecito. I suppose it's just a coincedence that the only one of the three with a criminal record is Guede, and the only one with any forensic evidence connecting him to the murder is Guede?

I at least need to thank you Furio, for telling me why exactly you think she's guilty. As i expected cook doesn't understand the case and just parroted a random talking point the media have threw out.

She's expected to use up her appeals, then it's necessary for her to return. The difference with Sollecito is that he is an Italian. Dellacroce is spot on, everything Furio said is circumstancial and i can't see how any of that could convince a jury of Knoxs guilt. I addressed all points except the parts about Knox returning to Italy, for that i have to ask why on earth would she? This doesn't point toward her guilt in the slightest, Furio i know you think she's guilty but say hypothetically she's innocent, and she spent 2 years in a jail for nothing, then that same country convicted her again, why would she return? She would obviously not have alot of confidence in that countries justice system.

There are two different issues associated with this murder trial:

1. Have the Italian court system proved their cases against Knox and Sollecito?

2. Irrespective of the evidence presented, were Knox and Sollecito involved with the murder? (As mob aficionados, we're well aware that many people are credited with murders without actually being convicted.)

If you are of the opinion that they were somehow involved, does that rationalize the judges' controversial decisions? Are you OK with convicting guilty parties without the proper evidence... does the end justify the means?

Americans tend to be fascinated with high profile murder trials. Personally, I wanted Casey Anthony to be found guilty because I honestly believe she committed the murder. Similar debates were waged with the Natalie Holloway, Trayvon Martin, and Nicole Simpson cases. The Gotti trial with Diane Giacalone can also be included.

I did some reading about this case when the trial (s) were going on and I remember the evidence being flimsy to non existent, the Italian prosecuter even claimed Knox was some kind of Satan worshiper. There was ample evidence against Guede though, he even took a dump in Kerchers toilet. I don't hesitate to believe the Italians wouldn't love to just stick it to the arrogant and bullying yank as our friend Furio would say!

"The Japanese say that we are lazy
but at least we cook the fish
we're the the playground of the Americans
that come here, and fuck us the villas and the Canalis"

Via con me (Away with me)
Dj Nais ft. Supa, Fabri Fibra, Danti & Daniele Vit

Convicted killer Amanda Knox offered $20,000 to appear in porn movie

On the back of her re-conviction of the 2007 murder of British student Meredith Kercher, Amanda Knox has been offered some help with her mounting legal costs, if she's willing to star in a porn movie.

Adult film company Monarchy Distribution claims that it has offered “Foxy Knoxy” $20,000 (€14,673) to get down and dirty in one of its blue flicks.

“As you may have read, and were most likely well aware of, the general consensus is you are absolutely smoking hot,” writes company founder Michael Kulich, in an email to Ms Knox.

“Since you came back into the headlines, our loyal fan base has been e-mailing us non-stop asking about you.”


In the email, which was forwarded to the Daily Dot, Kulich offers Foxy Knoxy final say “over all terms of productions” including what sex acts she's willing to perform and what talent she'd like to work with.

“This is a great opportunity for you to make some money to put towards finishing your education and also future legal costs to help with this unfortunate retrial,” he concludes.


This isnt the first the time Knox has been offered a job in the adult entertainment industry; in 2011, after winning the appeal of her initial guilty verdict, Vivid Entertainment offered Knox a job.


CEO Steven Hirsch offered her an unspecified sum of money to be a spokesperson for Vivid at trade and retail events, a job that would require “no nudity or sex.”

'We would like to offer her the opportunity to be our vivid.com spokesperson and represent the studio at trade and retail events. This would involve no nudity or sex. Of course we would welcome talking to her if she wants to pursue this direction, but the decision is totally hers to express," the company said.

Foxy Knoxy has yet to reply to either offer.

Man those adult companies just come at you when your doing your worst....

I hope that foxy Knoxy get the HIV.

I just pictured Furio on the Sopranos saying this like he said "Stupida-f**king-game"

She apparently already has herpes so I would not be surprised if she has other STDs.

Yes this is from a tabloid the daily Fail but it has to do with Knox.



Full article with CCTV captures at link:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...l#ixzz30ql45iw2

Sounds like bullshit. I mean how could it take 7 years for CCTV footage to emerge? The Italian prosecutors are getting more and more desperate.

Italy was foolish to let Foxy Knoxy go. Hopefully she'll be forced to go back there and be locked away in prison.

What exactly has convinced you of her guilt? There's no way the Italian prosecution could've convinced you.

She should not get extradited as she was screwed over by the Italian justice system from the top all the way down to the piss poor cops and their handling of the whole situation. All those who say she is guilty what evidence do you have? or are you basing it on she just looks guilty if so that hardly qualifies as evidence.


This most recent trail is the Italians way of trying to close this case once and for all, they know they have screwed up royally they just want someone behind bars even if said person is innocent.

i like how cornuto_e_contento managed to find every single hot button topic possible on gangsterbb to troll