GOAL: Predict which notable* figures will die on/between January 1 and December 31, 2014, Eastern Time.
Produce a maximum of 50 names, to be PM'ed to me (NOT posted here) before the ball drops in Times Square (NYC) at midnight on New Years (i.e., 12AM ET, January 1, 2014). The BB's default timestamp will determine entry time.
*It's assumed that all notable figures will have an entry, or be mentioned in an entry, at Google, Wikipedia or another legit source which you may have to prove.
Rules:
1) PLEASE alphabetize your list of 50 names by LAST name (regardless of profession), either in the form of FIRSTNAME LASTNAME -or- LASTNAME, FIRSTNAME, in *1* column of names.
2) If it's not obvious who the person is for most people, after the name please add why they're notable. For example: "Douglas Fraser, trade unionist" (Sorry, he's already dead). In addition, you may or may not choose to include the person's current age; for example: "Douglas Fraser, trade unionist (91)"
3) If you submit your list days before Midnight, January 1st, 2014, and someone on your list dies before 2014, you should substitute the person with another and resubmit your list (by the deadline). If you do not resubmit your list, and the person died in 2013, the person will obviously NOT count for 2014.
4) a) Thou Shalt Not Kill (anyone on your list); b) criminals subject to the Death Penalty or anyone kidnapped or held hostage in 2013 won't count -- unless they die of natural causes; c) "Dead" means permanently dead, not later revived, nor put in animated suspension, or any induced or natural coma starting before 2014 begins; d) do not edit Wikipedia with false death information.
Everyone's lists will be updated unofficially throughout the year, but a year-end audit should be performed to determine the final winner sometime shortly after December 31, 2014. YOU are responsible for your own audit at years' end.
2014 GBB Dead Pool Entries (I've included last year's lists for those who didn't update them)
SC (15)
Albanese, Licia Ali, Muhammad Bacall, Lauren Barker, Bob Berra, Yogi Bush, George HW Caesar, Sid Castro, Fidel deHavilland, Olivia DelMonte, William Douglas, Roy Douglas, Kirk Franklin, Aretha Gabor, Zsa Zsa Garner, James Graham, Billy Hefner, Hugh Imich, Alexander Kahn, Irving King, BB LaMotta, Jake Lee, Christopher Lee, Harper Lewis, Jerry Marie, Rose Mays, Willie Michael, George Mikasa, Prince Molinaro, Al Mubarak, Hosni Newman, Ruth Okawa, Misawo Olivero, Magda Pardo, Don Pei, IM Philip, Prince Rainer, Luise Reagan, Nancy Rooney, Mickey Schmidt, Helmut Seeger, Pete Stewart, Mary Vigoda, Abe Wallach, Eli Walsh, Walter Walsh, Lawrence Wapner, Judge White, Betty Wouk, Herman Zimalist Jr, Efram
JG (4)
Muhammad Ali, boxer (71) Marty Allen, comedian (91) Mother Angelica, EWTN (90) Ed Asner, actor (84) Tariq Aziz, frmr Dep PM Iraq (77) Bob Barker, game show host (90) Lauren Bacall, actress (89) Harry Belafonte, singer/activist (86) Benedict XVI, Pope Emeritus (86) Tony Bennett, singer (87) Chuck Berry, songwriter (87) Wilford Brimley, actor (79) Mel Brooks, actor/director (87) Whitey Bulger, murderer (84) George H.W. Bush, 41st Prez (89) Jimmy Carter, 39th president (89) Fidel Castro, Cuban president (87) David Crosby, musician (72) Olivia de Havilland, actress (97) Bob Dole, politician (90) Kirk Douglas, actor (97) Kitty Dukakis, Michael's wife (77) Queen Elizabeth II (87) Zsa Zsa Gabor, actress/socialite (96) Leif Garrett, singer (52) Billy Graham, evangelist (95) Stephen Hawking, physicist (71) Hugh Hefner, Playboy (87) B.B. King, guitarist (88) Larry King, CNN (80) Kris Kristofferson, singer (77) Jake Lamotta, boxer (92) Stan Lee, Marvel Comics (91) Jerry Lewis, actor (87) Norman Lloyd, actor/producer/director (99) Lindsay Lohan, "actress" (27) Courtney Love, Hole (49) Charles Manson, murderer (79) Al Molinaro, "Happy Days" Al (94) Gene Gene Patton, the Dancing Machine (81) I.M. Pei, architect (96) Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh (92) Nancy Reagan, former first lady (92) Don Rickles, comedian (87) Mickey Rooney, actor (93) Don Shula, NFL (83) Abe Vigoda, actor (92) Eli Wallach, actor (98) Lawrence Walsh, frmr Dep Attorney Gen (101) Judge Wapner, TV judge (94)
TIS (5)
Allen, Marty Ali, Mohammad Ames, Ed Bacall, Lauren Barker, Bob Berry, Chuck Brimley, Wilford Buchanan, Pat Burns, Edd (Kookie) Bush, George HW Carter, Jimmy Connors, Mike (Connors) Davis, Ann B. Day, Doris Vic Damone Olivia DeHavilland Domino, Fats Downs, Hugh Douglas, Kurt Douglas, Michael Eastwood, Clint Fontaine, Joan Franklin, Aretha Gabor, Zsa Zsa Graham, Billy Green, Shecky Hefner, Hugh Kasem, Casey Kennedy, George King, BB King, Larry Lansbury, Angela Lee, Christopher Lewis, Jerry Lewis, Jerry Lee Loggia, Robert Lynn, Loretta Nelson, Willie O’Hara, Maureen O’Brien, Hugh O’Toole, Peter Perot, Ross Polanski, Roman Reagan, Nancy Reynolds, Burt Richards, Keith Rooney, Mickey Van Dyke, Dick Vigoda, Abe Wallach, Eli
MIGNON (7)
1. Ali, Mohammud 2. Asner, Ed 3. Bacall, Lauren 4. Barker, Bob 5. Busey, Gary 6. Bush, Barbara 7. Bush, George SR. 8. Caeser, Sid 9. Carter, Jimmy 10. Cary Diana,Serra 11. Castro, Fidel 12. Cleary, Beverley 13. Cory, Irwin 14. Culkin, Macaulay 15. Day, Doris 16. DeHavilland, Olivia 17. Douglas, Kirk 18. Douglas, Michael 19. Franklin, Aretha 20. Fontaine, Joan 21. Gabor, Zsa-Zsa 22. Garrett, Leif 23. Graham, Billy 24. Harper, Valerie 25. Hawking, Stephen 26. Hefner, Hugh 27. King, BB 28. King, Larry 29. Lamotta, Jake 30. Lewis, Jerry 31. Lloyd, Norman 32. Lohan Lindsay 33. Marshall, Penny 34. Molinaro, Al 35. O’Hara, Maureen 36. Pardo, Don 37. Pei, IM 38. Reagan, Nancy 39. Keith, Richards 40. Rockefeller, David 41. Rooney, Mickey 42. Schmidt, Helmut 43. Stewart, Mary 44. Vandike, Dick 45. Vigoda, Abe 46. Wallach, Eli 47. Wapner, Joseph 48. White, Betty 49. Wouk, Herman 50. Zimbalist, Efram Jr
Abdullah (King of Saudi Arabia) Assad Bashar Ali Muhammad Barker Bob Biden Joe Brimley Wilfred Carter Jimmy Castro Fidel
Cooper Anderson Crosby Sidney Coulter Anne Day Doris Douglas Kirk
Fabray Nanette Glazier Malcolm Graham Billy Greenspan Alan Hawking Stephen Kissinger Henry LaMotta Jake Lee Stan Levine James Lewis Jerry Lohan Lindsay Love Courtney
Marshall Penny McCain John Mubarak Hosni Mugabe, (head of Zimbawe) Ono Yoko Nolte Nick Quaid Randy Reagan Nancy Rooney Mickey
1 Ali, Muhammad (Boxer) 71 2 B.B. King (Blues Singer) 88 3 Berry ,Chuck(Guitarist) 87 4 Brady, Ian (Child killer) 75 5 Bush Sr , George(Former President) 89 6 Castro, Fidel (Cuban Leader) 87 7 Connery, Sean (Actor) 83 8 Day, Doris (US Singer) 89 9 Doherty, Pete (British Musician) 34 10 Domino, Fats (US Singer) 85 11 Douglas, Kirk (Actor) 96 12 Eastwood, Clint(Actor) 83 13 Francis,Connie (Singer) 75 14 Franklin, Aretha (US Singer) 71 15 Gabor, Zsa Zsa (Actor) 96 16 Gordan, Norman (South African Cricketer) 102 17 Gordy, Berry (Music Producer) 84 18 Gregg, Harry (Ex footballer) 81 19 Havelange, Joao( Ex FIFA President) 97 20 Havilland, Olivia de (Actress) 98 21 Hawking, Stephen (Physicist) 71 22 Healey,Dennis (British Politician) 96 23 King,Ben E (Singer) 75 24 La Motta, Jake (Boxer) 92 25 Lansbury, Angela (Actress) 88 26 Lee, Christopher (Actor)91 27 Lee Stan (Producer) 91 28 Lewis,Jerry Lee (Singer) 78 29 Lynn,Vera (Singer) 97 30 Malarkey,G Donald (Band Of Brother War Veteran) 92 31 Molinaro Al (Actor) 94 32 Moore , Roger (Actor) 86 33 Mose John Allison, Jr (Blues Singer) 86 34 O'Hara Maureen (Actress) 93 35 Okawa Misao (Supercentenarian) 115 36 Pincher, Chapman Journalist/Investigator 99 37 Prince Mikasa (Japanese Royal) 98 38 Prince Philip 92 39 Rainer,Luise (Actress) 103 40 Reagan, Nancy (Former First Lady) 92 41 Richards, Keith( Rolling Stone) 69 42 Schmidt,Helmut (German Politician) 95 43 Sheen , Charlie(Actor) 48 44 Sinatra , Nancy(US Singer) 73 45 Temple, Shirley (Actress) 85 46 Van Dyke, Dick (American Actor) 88 47 Vigode, Abe (Actor) 92 48 Wallach , Eli(Actor) 98 49 White,Betty (Actress) 91 50 Whitlam,Gough (Former Australian PM) 97
KLYDON1 (6)
Muhammad Ali Mother Angelica Richard Attenborough Bob Barker Yogi Berra Wilfred Brimley Mel Brooks George HW Bush Sid Caesar Glen Campbell Jimmy Carter Fidel Castro Carol Channing Macauley Culkin Olivia deHavilland Fats Domino Clint Eastwood Zsa Zsa Gabor James Garner Billy Graham Monty Hall Valerie Harper Stephen Hawking George Kennedy BB King Larry King Henry Kissinger Jake LaMotta Cloris Leachman Christopher Lee Harper Lee Stan Lee Rose Marie Willie Mays Al Molinaro Toni Morrison Maureen O'Hara Ozzie Osborne Ian Paisley IM Pei Mickey Rooney Helmut Schmidt Pete Seeger Dick Van Dyke Abe Vigoda Eli Wallach Lawrence Walsh Judge Wapner Betty White Herman Wouk
Danito (1)
Muhammad Ali Chuck Berry Kurt Biedenkopf (German politician) Elfriede Brüning (German writer) George HW Bush Fidel Castro Dick Cheney Doris Day Fats Domino Kirk Douglas Michael Douglas Clint Eastwood Aretha Franklin Heiner Geißler (German Politician) Billy Graham BB King Helmut Kohl
Juanita Moore, who played the maid, Annie, in "Imitation of Life", the tearjerker of all-time, died today at age 99. She was not picked by anyone here in the pool.
Juanita Moore, who played the maid, Annie, in "Imitation of Life", the tearjerker of all-time, died today at age 99. She was not picked by anyone here in the pool.
I saw the first half hour of this movie and was fascinated. I unfortunately had to leave, but will make it a point to watch it again.
Juanita Moore, who played the maid, Annie, in "Imitation of Life", the tearjerker of all-time, died today at age 99. She was not picked by anyone here in the pool.
I would not have known her name but I DO remember the movie and her role. I was about 10, and we were visiting cousins in Detroit and my cousin who was a couple years older wanted to go to the movies (Detroit was the big city, always a tad ahead of G.R.) She asked my parents if I could go since it was an "adult" themed type movie and though I don't remember the conversation we did NOT end up going. Years later, however, I saw it on tv a few time, and yea, what a tear jerker it was. Really controversial for that time.
Sharon was crossed off everyone's lists because "he has been in a permanent vegetative state since suffering a stroke on 4 January 2006"
So what? That's the object of this "game". It's a DEAD pool. D'uhhhh.
Talk to Vitelli about it!!
Originally Posted By: Signor Vitelli (1/1/13)
JG: By your own definition, I'm not sure Ariel Sharon belongs on the list, as he's been pretty much in a coma since 2006. I do not take the statements of Sharon's son to the press seriously (see Wikipedia bio).
I don't think any of us had him but Phil Everly of the Everly Brothers passed away. Damn, talk about a blast from the past. My older brother had some of their records. In particular, "All I Have to Do Is Dream" comes to mind. Remember "Wake Up Little Susie?" Geez, I know there are more but my mind is blank right now. Really sorry to hear it. Oh, and what about "Cathy's Clown?"
and TIS, don't forget, "Bye Bye Love". Simon and Garfunkel were influenced by the Everly Bros. harmonies. I have a DVD of S&G at the Garden from about 8 years ago and the Everly Bros. were part of the show. Theirs is a sound that has really never been duplicated.
and TIS, don't forget, "Bye Bye Love". Simon and Garfunkel were influenced by the Everly Bros. harmonies. I have a DVD of S&G at the Garden from about 8 years ago and the Everly Bros. were part of the show. Theirs is a sound that has really never been duplicated.
Very true. The Everly Brothers created melodies that will be enjoyed forever, and they are one of the pillars of modern music.
Sad way to start the year with the death of Everly. They were true pioneers. Without them there would be no Beatles and no Simon and Garfunkel.
I did not enter the pool this year, but if anyone left Ariel Sharon off their list, that would have been a big mistake. I would have also put George H.W. Bush on the list. He's not looking too hot.
I did not enter the pool this year, but if anyone left Ariel Sharon off their list, that would have been a big mistake. I would have also put George H.W. Bush on the list. He's not looking too hot.
I posted what you had left over from last year, DT. Sharon was disqualified last year, btw, and everyone -- except you -- has Bush Sr on their lists.
I did not enter the pool this year, but if anyone left Ariel Sharon off their list, that would have been a big mistake. I would have also put George H.W. Bush on the list. He's not looking too hot.
I posted what you had left over from last year, DT. Sharon was disqualified last year, btw, and everyone -- except you -- has Bush Sr on their lists.
Thanks Geoff. I think you rolled me over last year also, but I only got a few right. Maybe if I just keep the same list every year they will all die at once and I'll win by default!
Thanks for posting my list for me. I was at my inlaws for a few days my FIL was in the hospital and I didn't have my laptop with me so I couldn't update my list. So what are the chances I can update it? PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
Seeing that Mig is a member here for ten years and she has actively participated in this game for a number of years I think she should be allowed in (despite being late). BUT, if she is allowed to enter she must be marked with an asterisk.
Sounds like all of you want Bush Sr to kick it all kidding aside I hope he's doing alright. I admire him very much
No one wants the old guy to die, he's just very sick, so he belongs on the list.
He was discharged from the hospital last year I believe. Not to get too off track but wasn't Bush Sr. more moderate than Reagan? There was a slight divide between the two during the early days of Reagan's administration
Thanks for posting my list for me. I was at my inlaws for a few days my FIL was in the hospital and I didn't have my laptop with me so I couldn't update my list. So what are the chances I can update it? PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
Okay, for the next 24 hours, anyone whose list was rolled over from last year and is incomplete, PM me your replacements -- but obviously no one who's died before tomorrow.
Sounds like all of you want Bush Sr to kick it all kidding aside I hope he's doing alright. I admire him very much
No one wants the old guy to die, he's just very sick, so he belongs on the list.
He was discharged from the hospital last year I believe. Not to get too off track but wasn't Bush Sr. more moderate than Reagan? There was a slight divide between the two during the early days of Reagan's administration
Bush was way more moderate. He called Reaganomics "voodo." It was quite a surprise when he got the Veep nood in '80. Then again Reagan may have been less right wing that he claimed to be because he names James Baker ( a Bush man) chief of staff.
In his term as president Bush cut a deal to raise taxes, and it probably cost him the election to Clinton because the GOP "base" never forgave him for that.
Larry Speakes, 74, died. You'll remember him as Reagan's press secretary, who replaced James Brady, who was shot in the head during the assassination attempt on Reagan 2 months into his term. Brady is still alive and will turn 74 this year.
I thought the Dead Pool folks might be interested in the website. You can find out if someone died in your house. I heard it advertised on the radio this morning. What next?
I thought the Dead Pool folks might be interested in the website. You can find out if someone died in your house. I heard it advertised on the radio this morning. What next?
Pretty sure the only Gilligan's Island cast members still alive now are Ginger (Tina Louise) and Mary Ann (Dawn Wells).
Dave Madden also has died according to TMZ....he played the part of Reuben Kincaid on the 70's tv show The Partridge Family. Madden was 82 and according to TMZ he died of heart and kidney failure.
Pretty sure the only Gilligan's Island cast members still alive now are Ginger (Tina Louise) and Mary Ann (Dawn Wells).
Dave Madden also has died according to TMZ....he played the part of Reuben Kincaid on the 70's tv show The Partridge Family. Madden was 82 and according to TMZ he died of heart and kidney failure.
Russell Johnson, the "Professor" on "Gilligan's Island" died today at his home. He was 89 years old.
Sorry to hear this. I was always a fan of Gilligan's Island, which I've watched in re-runs as long as I can remember. I read Johnson's autobiography, which is named after the show, and deals primarily with the show and cast, whom he dearly loved. He's actually from my home area, the PA coal regions, and as a bit of trivia: his character's name on Gilligan's Island was Roy Hikley. The Skipper was Jonas Grumby and Gilligan's first name was Willy.
Pete Seeger, world famous folk singer, died at age 94.
Among his most well known songs are "If I Had a Hammer" and "Where Have All the Flowers Gone". He was a big influence on a young Bob Dylan back in the day.
klydon and I both had picked Seeger for our lists.
For me, the passing of Pete Seeger brings a special and particular sadness.
I grew up with folk music, particularly the music of The Weavers, the group that Pete was a member of from 1948-1958. My late mother was the "folkie" in the family; in the 1940's, she once told me, she saw The Almanac Singers (Pete Seeger was a member of that group, too). Music was a part of my earliest memories. It fascinated me, especially the unique voices and wonderful instruments that made such an impression on me back in those formative years. Later, in the 1960's, I came to realize that Pete Seeger was far more than "just" a folksinger. His was a voice of conscience. He stood for so much, he believed so strongly, this amazing driving force. And he accomplished so much.
I saw him perform twice: Once back in 1983, at a fundraiser for his Clearwater project, and then just two years ago, at a benefit for another folksinger/activist who was battling cancer. Even at age 92, when he came striding out onto the stage carrying his ever-present banjo, he could command an audience like almost no other. His voice had weakened with age, but the spark was still there. He was still Pete Seeger, and he immediately had everyone up on their feet and singing along with him. (Note: Inscribed on his banjo was the phrase, "This machine surrounds hate and forces it to surrender")
He was amazing. Did I agree with every single thing he ever did in his life? Of course not. But I certainly respected him in the things he did and in most of his involvements. (For one thing, the Hudson River is a lot cleaner because of him.)
Toshi, his wife of nearly 70 years, passed away last year. Many people I know feared that he would soon follow. But, certainly he always seemed like an iron man. "Pete Seeger just may outlive us all," we felt. But, in the end, this amazing, unique man was mortal, just like all of us. It hardly seemed possible, but it was so.
For the last few years, in my present "incarnation", I've gotten back into music, returning to some of my folk roots. The shock and sadness is starting to sink in: Our world has lost a giant. But so has the world.
Signor V., nice post on Seeger. I heard that the Tappan Zee Bridge (a 3 mile span over the Hudson River) might be named the Pete Seeger Bridge. A fitting tribute to a troubadour.
Oh shit! Thats terrible....i always liked his work.
According to the article he still had the needle in his arm....wow!
RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman
Wow He must got some badshit or maybe some air got in there when he was shooting up. My son is hooked on drugs I've already prepared myself for his death.
Signor V., nice post on Seeger. I heard that the Tappan Zee Bridge (a 3 mile span over the Hudson River) might be named the Pete Seeger Bridge. A fitting tribute to a troubadour.
Thank you for the kind words, and I agree with the idea to name the bridge after Seeger. But, the current Tappan Zee bridge is slated to be demolished and replaced by a new one; off the top of my head, I'm not sure of the timeline, but the naming idea would refer to the new structure.
Now, if only the engineers could design the bridge to look like a giant banjo...
Oh shit! Thats terrible....i always liked his work.
According to the article he still had the needle in his arm....wow!
RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman
Wow He must got some badshit or maybe some air got in there when he was shooting up. My son is hooked on drugs I've already prepared myself for his death.
I am so sorry to hear that. Saw her movies on tv all the time when I was a kid.
One of my aunts (my dad's sister) who is around 80ish I think) got a Shirley Temple doll when she was little. Must have been during the peak of Temple's career. For whatever reason, that doll stayed in the box in the closet and only taken down at certain times I guess. I know my aunt kept it thru adulthood. I'll have to ask her if she still has it. Geez, back then it seemed old when she pulled out that doll...now almost ancient.
I have her down on my list, I used her married name.
So?? The board is ruled by the laws of New York and New Jersey. They aren't community property states.
Seriously, though, I had my tv on as background noise today while I was repairing a clock. The old Regis Philbin show was on (don't know what it is called now) and Honey Boo Boo (or whatever the fuck her name is) was on as a guest. I can't believe that this child is a "star". Times sure have changed since Shirley Temple was a child star.
I have her down on my list, I used her married name.
So?? The board is ruled by the laws of New York and New Jersey. They aren't community property states.
Seriously, though, I had my tv on as background noise today while I was repairing a clock. The old Regis Philbin show was on (don't know what it is called now) and Honey Boo Boo (or whatever the fuck her name is) was on as a guest. I can't believe that this child is a "star". Times sure have changed since Shirley Temple was a child star.
Times have changed sadly for both child stars and regular stars. And, honestly I feel sorry for child stars because of the traps in Hollywood or the music industry. Only so few came out and continued with their life like Shirley Temple.
Shirley Temple declined the role of Dorothy in the Wizard of Oz. Also, in another thread we were talking about the album cover of Sgt. Pepper, and, yes, she's on it. In fact, she appears twice on the cover, and I believe she is the only non-Beatle to appear twice on that cover.
There are only four people still alive (other than Paul and ringo) from the cover: singers Bob Dylan, Bobby Breen, and Dion, and artist Larry Bell.
Now that you mention it, Temple would have been a good choice for Dorothy no?
TIS
I don't think Shirley had the right "look". Judy had that manic, stressed-out look..even then. Shirley would have been too bubbly. She would have tried to make friends with the wicked witch.
Comedy legend Sid Caesar died at age 91. A few of us had picked Sid for our lists.
He was one of early tv's biggest stars but I'll best remember him for his role in "Mad Mad World". He was brilliant in that scene in the department store basement.
Comedy legend Sid Caesar died at age 91. A few of us had picked Sid for our lists.
He was one of early tv's biggest stars but I'll best remember him for his role in "Mad Mad World". He was brilliant in that scene in the department store basement.
R.I.P. Sid and thanks for the laughs.
Oh wow. Man, he was a very regular tv personality when I was young. Remember his wife Imogene Coca, right? They'd appear together sometimes too, if I remember correctly.
Everything comes in three's. RIP Sid, really loved his performance in It's Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World. And, speaking of that movie I think only Mickey Rooney, Jerry Lewis,Carl Reiner and Sylvester's girlfriend is still alive from the movie. I really love this movie.
Remember his wife Imogene Coca, right? They'd appear together sometimes too, if I remember correctly.
Imogene Coca and Sid Caesar performed together for a number of years, but were never married to each other. Interestingly, the second of Coca's two husbands was actor King Donovan, who had a major supporting role in the original 1956 version of Invasion of the Body Snatchers.
One of my favorite films is My Favorite Year, with Peter O'Toole and Mark Linn-Baker. In it, Joseph Bologna plays "King Kaiser", a parody of Sid Caesar. Definitely a film worth seeing.
Now that you mention it, Temple would have been a good choice for Dorothy no?
TIS
I don't think Shirley had the right "look". Judy had that manic, stressed-out look..even then. Shirley would have been too bubbly. She would have tried to make friends with the wicked witch.
I remember that back in 1970, TV Guide gathered the surviving principal actors from The Wizard of Oz for an interview that was published in the magazine. They spoke with Ray Bolger, Jack Haley and Margaret Hamilton. I can still recall Bolger's opinion when asked about Shirley Temple being considered for the role of Dorothy:
Shirley Temple declined the role of Dorothy in the Wizard of Oz. Also, in another thread we were talking about the album cover of Sgt. Pepper, and, yes, she's on it. In fact, she appears twice on the cover, and I believe she is the only non-Beatle to appear twice on that cover.
There are only four people still alive (other than Paul and ringo) from the cover: singers Bob Dylan, Bobby Breen, and Dion, and artist Larry Bell.
If I remember right. When the Judy Garland mini series came out on ABC, they had a scene mentioning that Temple couldn't do the movie because of the studio or maybe it was because she had freckles.
John Walton was arguably the best dad in the history of tv. Waite himself was admittedly a terrible father to his own kids, but he eventually mended things.
John Walton was an interesting character. In that family he was the only one not to attend church, he was honest, hard-working and wise.
Former Phillies Manager Jim Fregosi has passed away.
RIP Jim
I saw the Phillies clinch the division in '93 in Pittsburgh. A group of fans were celebrating in the hotel when the Phils returned. Fregosi, who managed the memorable team of characters, gave me and other fans a bear hug. I remember him as a good player too.
Must be a bummer to die at 99, one year off your centenary..
My grandmother is less than three months away from her hundreth. Still hanging on though and in good spirits, but she feels that she's lived too long, and wouldn't care if she didn't hit the milestone. She feels that living belongs to the young.
Must be a bummer to die at 99, one year off your centenary..
My grandmother is less than three months away from her hundreth. Still hanging on though and in good spirits, but she feels that she's lived too long, and wouldn't care if she didn't hit the milestone. She feels that living belongs to the young.
Kly,
Is there going to be a birthday bash (well, of sorts) for her? That IS quite a milestone. Best wishes to her. How is her general health?
It's hard to know how you would feel when you get to a 100 yrs old. NOW, I tend to think well if I'm still feeling good and in decent health, why not want to live longer. Then again, maybe you just get to a point when you're ready. All that being said, cherish every moment with her.
Sorry to hear about Maria. My husband's family went to VT on vacation when he was a kid and he got to meet her.
My mother is approaching her 88th birthday. She says that most of her contemporaries have passed away, and she's done. She says she really doesn't want to live much longer.
In case you ghouls are not aware, here is a website that posts obituaries. If you have ever signed an online guest book, it might have been through this site. You can also sign up to get an email notification if an obit is posted in a newspaper with the criteria you choose. We have many friends, acquaintances, ex-coworkers, etc. back in Rockland County, NY., so the "The Journal News of Lower Hudson" will notify me of obits in the towns I chose.
Is there going to be a birthday bash (well, of sorts) for her? That IS quite a milestone. Best wishes to her. How is her general health?
She would prefer no party, but we will have a dinner for her with all of her four living generations. Her birthday falls on a Sunday, so we'll probably all go to church with her too (evwen those who don't go regularly).
The following Sunday my oldest son will turn 21, so I will buy him his first legal beer then.
Her health is fair. Her eyesight is mostly gone; her vision is reduced to blurred shadows and she's had a couple of minor strokes though it's hard to say anything is minor at her age. Like SB's mom, she has outlived her contemporaries. There is only one friend still her age, and she has always referred to him as "that horse's ass." She was very saddened when my brother died in 2008, and thought it cruel that he died in his 40s while she still lived. She doesn't want to have to watch another family member get buried, and so she isn't fearing the grim reaper.
I woke up to this news, and was totally surprised. I know they were planning on doing another Ghostbusters with most of the cast. RIP to a really great and funny actor/director.
Lee Lorch, a soft-spoken mathematician whose leadership in the campaign to desegregate Stuyvesant Town, the gargantuan housing development on the east side of Manhattan, helped make housing discrimination illegal nationwide, died on Friday at a hospital in Toronto. He was 98.
His daughter, Alice Lorch Bartels, confirmed the death. Mr. Lorch had taught at York University in Toronto, and had lived in Toronto since 1968.
Wow, I heard it was sick, on his deathbed and died all in a couple hours. I can't say I followed his career a lot but I certainly remember his face was a very familiar and constant one on comedy shows. Sounds like he went pretty quickly after his diagnosis. Too bad. RIP
David Brenner was a ubiquitous presence on the talk show circuit in the 70s and early 80s, but his appearances were always fresh and funny. Whenever he was scheduled to be on a show, I made a point to watch.
He was Jerry Seinfeld before Jerry Seinfeld, and I'm sure Breener was a major influence on Seinfeld. Both of them are masters of observation and finding hilarity out of nuance.
He was a Philly boy too. Funny to the end he made a last request that a hundred dollars in small bills be tucked into his sock in case tipping is required wherever he's going. He also asked that his gravemarker read, "If this is a joke, I don't get it."
Wowserz ...I was dancing and snapping my fingers to paint it black.. till I heard his girlfriend died good grief... How did you find this old Kly?
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Oddly enough, a local tv station reported this news this morning when their traffic helicopter spotted a lot of police cars parked in front of her apartment building in Manhattan.
She didn't leave a suicide note. Isn't that odd? Any chance of foul play? I can't say I know her nor did I know she was dating Mick. Anyone know if she had personal issues? Anyway, what a horrible way to go. How sad!!
James Rebhorn. Great character actor who usually played unlikeable characters (like the headmaster in "Scent of a Woman") has died from a twenty year battle with skin cancer at age 65.
James Rebhorn. Great character actor who usually played unlikeable characters (like the headmaster in "Scent of a Woman") has died from a twenty year battle with skin cancer at age 65.
He also played Carrie Mathisons dad in Homeland.. RIP
James Rebhorn. Great character actor who usually played unlikeable characters (like the headmaster in "Scent of a Woman") has died from a twenty year battle with skin cancer at age 65.
He also played Carrie Mathisons dad in Homeland.. RIP
I also remember her as The Rani on some vintage 1980's episodes of Doctor Who. Come to think of it, I remember her from Hammer Films' The Vampire Lovers...
Not to speak ill of the dead, but he has to have been the most overrated actor in history. He has not done anything since the 40's, yet he and his fllowers were always going on about what a great talent he was. IMHO he was a brash loudmouthed braggart.
He has not done anything since the 40's, yet he and his fllowers were always going on about what a great talent he was.
Not true. He made a great performance in the early '60s. He was marvelous in "Requiem for a Heavyweight". I was never a big fan of his but give credit where it is due.
After his youthful career, Rooney won Golden Globes in 1964 and 1981 and an Emmy in 1981, and was nominated for four other Emmys, two Oscars, and a Tony. I saw Rooney and Ann Miller perform in Philadelphia in the era when they were on Broadway in "Sugar Babies," and they were awesome.
During Michael J. Fox's heyday I used to think that he was just about like Rooney, except that Rooney was also a musical performer. That still seems just about right.
I was just reading that story. I do know Bob Geldof but can't say I know Peaches. Wow, how sad. Was she in bad health that anyone knows of? Drugs? I ask because she was so young. How awful! RIP
He has not done anything since the 40's, yet he and his fllowers were always going on about what a great talent he was.
Not true. He made a great performance in the early '60s. He was marvelous in "Requiem for a Heavyweight". I was never a big fan of his but give credit where it is due.
And, don't forget the performance he gave in The Twilight Zone. 'The Last Night of a Jockey'
Sadly, now the main talent from It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World are long gone. Only a few left who made cameos.
Actor Bob Hoskins has sadly passed away at the age of 71. I will always remember him from 'Who Framed Roger Rabbit' which is one of my all time favorites. RIP to a really great talent.
Actor Bob Hoskins has sadly passed away at the age of 71. I will always remember him from 'Who Framed Roger Rabbit' which is one of my all time favorites. RIP to a really great talent.
He had a small part (as the husband of blind Audrey Hepburn) in one of my favorite movies from the '60s - "Wait Until Dark".
Wow, 95 years old. I forgot that he was in Wait Until Dark (Loved that film too). I'll always remember him from (sing along old timers) "77 Sunset Strip (snap snap)." Use to watch it all the time.
Remember Clay Cole from his Clay Cole TV show. He also was a singer if I remember right. He made a movie with Dion. Dion is still performing will see him in June at the Becan theather.
Why is this posted in the Dead Pool thread? Cole died a few years ago. Dion is still alive.
Henderson and the Crusaders matured just a bit before people made all those arbitrary classifications about music. Jazz, blues, soul, pop, funk, rock, it was all the same to them. My parents had most of their early albums. I saw the Crusaders once in concert.
Wayne Henderson, a trombonist and composer who was a founding member of the Jazz Crusaders, which played straight-ahead bebop beginning in the 1950s and then morphed into leading performers of jazz-funk, died on April 5 in Culver City, Calif. He was 74.
His wife, Cathy, said the cause was heart failure triggered by diabetes.
The Jazz Crusaders, who shortened their name to the Crusaders in 1971, placed 19 albums on the Billboard Top 200, eight of them in the Top 50. Their funky, danceable renditions of songs by the Beatles, Carole King and others extended their reach beyond jazz fans. So did original songs by Mr. Henderson, like “Keep That Same Old Feeling.” At their height the Crusaders opened for the Rolling Stones.
“We are the fathers of jazz-funk-fusion, and I am a funkster at heart,” Mr. Henderson said in an interview with The Los Angeles Times in 1995. “We took pop tunes like ‘Eleanor Rigby’ and ‘So Far Away’ and did them melodically with a groove, so people could dance if they wanted.”
That groove — subtle, almost mesmerizing repetitions of a theme — was the essential characteristic of the Crusaders’ music. Its influence can be heard today in acid jazz, house music and hip-hop.
Mr. Henderson was born on Sept. 24, 1939, in Houston, where he and three high school friends formed a group called the Swingsters in 1952. The others were Wilton Felder, a tenor saxophonist; Joe Sample, a keyboardist; and Stix Hooper, a drummer...
German art hoarder Cornelius Gurlitt has died aged 81, with no definitive answer on what will happen to his secret collection, which included many Nazi-looted pieces.
More than 1,400 works were found in his Munich apartment, including pieces by Picasso and Matisse.
Many were feared lost or destroyed before tax investigators uncovered his priceless collection in 2012.
Cornelius Gurlitt was the son of Adolf Hitler's art dealer.
Hildebrand Gurlitt was ordered to deal in works that had been seized from Jews, or which the Nazis considered "degenerate" and had removed from German museums.
In addition to a career spanning more than a half-century, he also appeared (briefly) as himself in GoodFellas.
R.I.P.
Signor V.
Oh no. I'm sorry to hear that. My father loved his singing and his was one voice we'd hear fairly regularly in our house, on Sunday, when my dad usually got to hear "his music." Vale was a good singer and brings a touch of nostalgia to me as I hear of his passing. Sad news.
Gordon Willis, the legendary cinematographer who created the now-classic visual style of 'The Godfather', 'Manhattan', and many other influential films of the 1970s, has passed away at age 82.
A few days ago Jeb Magruder died. He was campaign director of Nixon, who helped to plan and cover up the Watergate scandal. He was one of the first of that notorious group to go to jail. He later became a minister and claimed to have been present when Nixon allegedly gave John Mitchell the go-ahead for the break-in.
Gordon Willis, the legendary cinematographer who created the now-classic visual style of 'The Godfather', 'Manhattan', and many other influential films of the 1970s, has passed away at age 82.
Willis was, indeed, legendary. One of the most amazing films he photographed was Woody Allen's Zelig. In an age before CGI effects, Willis's work on that film was simply astounding.
Gordon Willis, the legendary cinematographer who created the now-classic visual style of 'The Godfather', 'Manhattan', and many other influential films of the 1970s, has passed away at age 82.
Willis was, indeed, legendary. One of the most amazing films he photographed was Woody Allen's Zelig. In an age before CGI effects, Willis's work on that film was simply astounding.
Signor V.
I'm pretty sure it was Willis who was responsible for colors and shading of the film in the flashback scenes of GF 2. It was certainly genius at work.
RIP Valentino. His role in The Virginian as a gunslinger is unforgettable. Is Jamaica the only album he had written all by himself or were there others? His last music performance was in 2010 I believe.
It seems like the news of someone passing away is posted on here as fast as it is on CNN! It also seems like the first thing I do when I hear someone died is to check my entry list to see if I had them on it. No Maya Angelou for me.
RIP to Zim. Back in the '90s I used to see him at the simulcast at Yonkers Raceway all the time. Torre sometimes, too. But Zim was there A LOT. He loved the ponies. Nice guy and a class act .
Some people said the real brains behind the Yankees in those years was not joe torre, but was Don Zimmer?
How about Bob Watson, Gene Michael and even Buck Showalter?
I love Torre. Love him. But if Showalter doesn't leave David Cone in the game with his arm hanging off against the Mariners in the '95 playoffs, he probably keeps his job, wins the World Series in '96, and Torre's working for ESPN for most of the past fifteen years.
Some people said the real brains behind the Yankees in those years was not joe torre, but was Don Zimmer?
They would be wrong. Zimmer was a great baseball guy, but was not a very good field manager. He was dull, unimaginative and too much by the book. His Red Sox and Cub teams were slow and uninspired.
While credit for the Yankees' success can be shared by quite a few - it's always a team effort -, Torre gets the lion's share of credit among the staff and front office as he injected the 1990s National League animated running style of play into the Yankee team. With Torre they hit behind runners, stole, advanced runners, hit and ran, coaxed walks, and would often grab the extra base. The American League since the advent of the DH and end of the early-70s A's, was a slow, plodding league that took one base at a time and wait for homers.
Some people said the real brains behind the Yankees in those years was not joe torre, but was Don Zimmer?
They would be wrong. Zimmer was a great baseball guy, but was not a very good field manager. He was dull, unimaginative and too much by the book. His Red Sox and Cub teams were slow and uninspired.
While credit for the Yankees' success can be shared by quite a few - it's always a team effort -, Torre gets the lion's share of credit among the staff and front office as he injected the 1990s National League animated running style of play into the Yankee team. With Torre they hit behind runners, stole, advanced runners, hit and ran, coaxed walks, and would often grab the extra base. The American League since the advent of the DH and end of the early-70s A's, was a slow, plodding league that took one base at a time and wait for homers.
I can be wrong on his because baseball is not my thing. But I did love the Harmon Killabrew Baseball bat, but I did not use it for playing baseball.
I remember small things I heard many many years ago. I just can't remember Yestarday.
Check this for accuracy when joe torre first became the manager of the Yankees he was not successful. But after Zimmer joined him they became very successful.
Check this for accuracy when joe torre first became the manager of the Yankees he was not successful. But after Zimmer joined him they became very successful.
Joe Torre won the World Series in his first year as Yankee manager. So that's not at all accurate.
Just heard Tracy Morgan (30 Rock/SNL) is in critical condition after 6 cars got in a wreck on the Jersey Turnpike. Hopefully he recovers.
I know this must sound terrible to some. But how are the rest of the non famous who were also injured.
One of his writers died and the rest are also in critical condition. That's not a horrible thing to ask at all. Horrible is when a tragedy like this happens and people only care about the famous person and not the other "non-famous" people.
I know this must sound terrible to some. But how are the rest of the non famous who were also injured.
One of the other passengers in Morgan's limo was killed. The NJ State Police report in an early investigation that a truck driver (driving an 18-wheeler) fell asleep while driving and that caused the accident (he rear-ended the limo).
Horrible news about Rik Mayall. I wonder what happened? Only 56... How sad.
Here in the States, they aired The Young Ones a number of years ago, and I remember The New Statesman from quite a long time ago. And, of course, he stole the show whenever he appeared in the Blackadder series.
I heard about this morning, sad stuff. Haven't seen The Young Ones myself but i thought he was great in both Blackadder and Bottom. The role he'll most be remembered in for me, is a film i loved in my childhood that i imagine i'd hate now Drop Dead Fred .
Apparently the driver in the Tracy Morgan related crash, hadn't slept in 24 hours , jesus i'd struggle to count to 10, nevermind drive a truck, after a day without sleep.
I heard about this morning, sad stuff. Haven't seen The Young Ones myself but i thought he was great in both Blackadder and Bottom. The role he'll most be remembered in for me, is a film i loved in my childhood that i imagine i'd hate now Drop Dead Fred .
I heard about this morning, sad stuff. Haven't seen The Young Ones myself but i thought he was great in both Blackadder and Bottom. The role he'll most be remembered in for me, is a film i loved in my childhood that i imagine i'd hate now Drop Dead Fred .
Anyway RIP Rik Mayall.
You should try The Young Ones, its a great show..
I'll watch it at one point. Most likely if the BBC shows reruns of it, which will more than likely happen now that Mayall is dead.
Ruby Dee, the Oscar-nominated actress and civil rights activist, perhaps best known for her roles in ‘A Raisin in the Sun’, ‘Do the Right Thing’, and American Gangster’, died on Wednesday night at the age of 91.
Ruby Dee, the Oscar-nominated actress and civil rights activist, perhaps best known for her roles in ‘A Raisin in the Sun’, ‘Do the Right Thing’, and American Gangster’, died on Wednesday night at the age of 91.
This one is a personal stinger. Legendary Hall of Fame former coach of the Steelers, Chuck Noll, passed away at 82. I was pretty much raised on those Steeler teams. He was a coaching disciple of Don Shula and assembled and orchestrated the greatest football dynasty of the Super Bowl era.
He coached brilliantly at a time when coaches weren't media hungry. Among the many coaches he groomed was Tony Dungy, who shared Noll's demeanor, attention to detail and cerebral approach to the game.
I just read that Kly. My God, losing Chuck is almost like losing a family member. He was one of the people that actually helped transform the city of Pittsburgh. Few people are able to affect others like that and on such a grand scale.
I just read that Kly. My God, losing Chuck is almost like losing a family member. He was one of the people that actually helped transform the city of Pittsburgh. Few people are able to affect others like that and on such a grand scale.
He was probably the best coach of the Super Bowl era. RIP Chuck .
Yup. Hopefully the ugliness that surrounded his passing will cease. I've seen it happen in a few families when the leader or patriarch dies and a lot of bad blood that was pent up for years starts oozing out.
Yup. Hopefully the ugliness that surrounded his passing will cease. I've seen it happen in a few families when the leader or patriarch dies and a lot of bad blood that was pent up for years starts oozing out.
Do you remember his wife from a few episodes of "Cheers"?
Yup. Hopefully the ugliness that surrounded his passing will cease. I've seen it happen in a few families when the leader or patriarch dies and a lot of bad blood that was pent up for years starts oozing out.
Do you remember his wife from a few episodes of "Cheers"?
Hi, gang at Cheers.
Nope. I saw that was her claim to fame but I couldn't place her.
Yup. Hopefully the ugliness that surrounded his passing will cease. I've seen it happen in a few families when the leader or patriarch dies and a lot of bad blood that was pent up for years starts oozing out.
I only recently heard of all the bad blood in this family. What a shame. Our L.A. radio station STILL plays re-broadcasts of his top 40, every Sunday morning. Many times I'll listen to him when I'm out for my run. He was definitely one of a kind and had such a distinct voice.
You know Terry Bradshaw was the last quarterback to call his own plays in the huddle. He won 4 super bowls amazing.
And they called him dumb.
I just watched the complete 1979 AFC playoff game between Pittsburgh and Miami, and remembered what a qb he was. I had forgotten how effortlessly the ball left his hand like a bullet. On one ply he ducked on a blitz, bouncing AJ Duhe over his back and then calmly rifled the ball 35 yards downfield to Swann for a TD, and then nonchalantly walk off the field with a 20-0 first quarter score.
Noll by the way was a connoisseur of art, classical music and fine wine. He was also a gourmet. During the summer camp of '74 he sent a message for rookie Mike Webster to come to his office. Webster felt this could mean only one thing- getting cut, and teammates consoled him before he went. Noll sat him down in the office, pulled out a book and said that he understood Webster was a bird watcher, so they sat together looking at photos of birds.
Kly, I've been watching the NFL Network's replay of the 70s Steelers and Noll. I believe it was the 78 Steelers whose roster members never played for any other team.
Kly, I've been watching the NFL Network's replay of the 70s Steelers and Noll. I believe it was the 78 Steelers whose roster members never played for any other team.
True. And prior to that the first two Steeler Super Bowl teams of the '74 and '75 season had only one player, who had played for another team: Kicker Roy Gerela, who had played for the Oilers.
I just read that Kly. My God, losing Chuck is almost like losing a family member. He was one of the people that actually helped transform the city of Pittsburgh. Few people are able to affect others like that and on such a grand scale.
He was probably the best coach of the Super Bowl era. RIP Chuck .
I just read that Kly. My God, losing Chuck is almost like losing a family member. He was one of the people that actually helped transform the city of Pittsburgh. Few people are able to affect others like that and on such a grand scale.
He was probably the best coach of the Super Bowl era. RIP Chuck .
Maybe that guy whose name is on the trophy?
To my mind, Lombardi is a pre-Super Bowl era coach, even though he won two Super Bowls. Because he won all of those league championships before 1967. Just semantics on my part .
To my mind, Lombardi is a pre-Super Bowl era coach, even though he won two Super Bowls. Because he won all of those league championships before 1967. Just semantics on my part . [/quote]
I had the pleasure of meeting Tom Landry in 1992 and had two conversations with him. I naturally wanted to talk about the 2 Super Bowls in the 70s, and he had no problem talking about them. He said that while the Steelers had the perfect pool of players to complemente and maximize each others' talents, he was also outcoached in both games though I suspect he was being overly gracious and humble. I never thought of anyone outcoaching Landry.
ESPN is reporting that Tony Gwynn has died of cancer. 54 years old .
Sad news. I was sitting near the on-deck circle at old Vet Stadium and saw his last at bat in Philly. He came on as a pinch hitter late and the crowd rose to its feet and cheeredwhen he stepped out of the dugout to go on deck, and he was crying.
He was one of the greatest hitters ever and a great guy for the sport.
You know Terry Bradshaw was the last quarterback to call his own plays in the huddle. He won 4 super bowls amazing.
And they called him dumb.
I just watched the complete 1979 AFC playoff game between Pittsburgh and Miami, and remembered what a qb he was. I had forgotten how effortlessly the ball left his hand like a bullet. On one ply he ducked on a blitz, bouncing AJ Duhe over his back and then calmly rifled the ball 35 yards downfield to Swann for a TD, and then nonchalantly walk off the field with a 20-0 first quarter score.
Noll by the way was a connoisseur of art, classical music and fine wine. He was also a gourmet. During the summer camp of '74 he sent a message for rookie Mike Webster to come to his office. Webster felt this could mean only one thing- getting cut, and teammates consoled him before he went. Noll sat him down in the office, pulled out a book and said that he understood Webster was a bird watcher, so they sat together looking at photos of birds.
Mike weber used to be a center for pittsburg right. If I am right he was one of the few centers that went after Butkus knees after his injuries. He hated butkus.
You know Terry Bradshaw was the last quarterback to call his own plays in the huddle. He won 4 super bowls amazing.
And they called him dumb.
I just watched the complete 1979 AFC playoff game between Pittsburgh and Miami, and remembered what a qb he was. I had forgotten how effortlessly the ball left his hand like a bullet. On one ply he ducked on a blitz, bouncing AJ Duhe over his back and then calmly rifled the ball 35 yards downfield to Swann for a TD, and then nonchalantly walk off the field with a 20-0 first quarter score.
Noll by the way was a connoisseur of art, classical music and fine wine. He was also a gourmet. During the summer camp of '74 he sent a message for rookie Mike Webster to come to his office. Webster felt this could mean only one thing- getting cut, and teammates consoled him before he went. Noll sat him down in the office, pulled out a book and said that he understood Webster was a bird watcher, so they sat together looking at photos of birds.
Mike weber used to be a center for pittsburg right. If I am right he was one of the few centers that went after Butkus knees after his injuries. He hated butkus.
Yes. Webster is dead now. He was braindamaged after 17 seasons starting as a center. He may have been the first player diagnosed with chronic traumatic encephalopathy after his career. He was living in his truck and train stations when he died, resisting help from family and friends. It was a similar condition to Junior Seau's.
ESPN is reporting that Tony Gwynn has died of cancer. 54 years old .
Sad news. I was sitting near the on-deck circle at old Vet Stadium and saw his last at bat in Philly. He came on as a pinch hitter late and the crowd rose to its feet and cheeredwhen he stepped out of the dugout to go on deck, and he was crying.
He was one of the greatest hitters ever and a great guy for the sport.
You know I'm a Mets fan, Klyd. But I don't hate the Yankees. Well, I don't hate, hate them, anyway. And I'll usually root for them in the World Series, as long as they're not playing the Mets.
The one BIG exception to that was in '98 when they played the Padres. I REALLY wanted to see the Padres win one for Gwynn. But that wasn't going to happen because the '98 Yankees were one of the best teams I've ever seen .
ESPN is reporting that Tony Gwynn has died of cancer. 54 years old .
Sad news. I was sitting near the on-deck circle at old Vet Stadium and saw his last at bat in Philly. He came on as a pinch hitter late and the crowd rose to its feet and cheeredwhen he stepped out of the dugout to go on deck, and he was crying.
He was one of the greatest hitters ever and a great guy for the sport.
You know I'm a Mets fan, Klyd. But I don't hate the Yankees. Well, I don't hate, hate them, anyway. And I'll usually root for them in the World Series, as long as they're not playing the Mets.
The one BIG exception to that was in '98 when they played the Padres. I REALLY wanted to see the Padres win one for Gwynn. But that wasn't going to happen because the '98 Yankees were one of the best teams I've ever seen .
That '98 Padre team was a good bunch of overachievers. I've gotten to know one of the players of that team a little bit - Andy Ashby.
Horace Silver, a pianist, composer and bandleader who was one of the most popular and influential jazz musicians of the 1950s and ’60s, died on Wednesday at his home in New Rochelle, N.Y. He was 85.
His death was announced by Blue Note Records, the company for which he recorded from 1952 to 1979.
After a high-profile apprenticeship with some of the biggest names in jazz, Mr. Silver began leading his own group in the mid-1950s and quickly became a big name himself, celebrated for his clever compositions and his infectious, bluesy playing. At a time when the refined, quiet and, to some, bloodless style known as cool jazz was all the rage, he was hailed as a leader of the back-to-basics movement that came to be called hard bop....
Somebody needs to sort Geoff out as he has not been updating the picks for people
Sort him out? Is that a polite way to say kick his ass?
TIS
Your right TIS, he needs his ass kicking..
Well, DE NIRO, TIS listened to you, flew out here, and beat me to a bloody pulp! ...everything should be updated now. Let me (or your Godmother) know if I missed any!
Wallach was a prolific character actor. He bordered on being a leading man, but he was a little too short and didn't have the "right" look for those roles when he was younger.
Great actor, though (even if he was miscast as Altobello ) .
A number of years ago, my wife and I had the pleasure of seeing Eli Wallach and his wife Anne Jackson perform in a two-person theatrical presentation recalling scenes from famous plays they had appeared in years before. What an evening! This was true theatre, and, since the venue was so small and intimate, they even met with the audience and chatted briefly after the show. A night I'll always remember.
A fine actor, even if I do agree with PB about his being a trifle miscast in GF3. The remaining body of his work more than made up for it.
A fine actor, even if I do agree with PB about his being a trifle miscast in GF3. The remaining body of his work more than made up for it.
Agreed. I loved him. He's one of my ten favorite actors ever.
Re Altobello: Funny story that some GF fans may know:
Eli Wallach was originally cast as Maggio in "From Here to Eternity." Ava Gardner famously begged Harry Cohn to give the role to Sinatra, and he acquiesced (there was no horse's head in anyone's bed, although Ava probably had to, well, you know ).
Anyway, Wallach lost the role to Frank, but 35 years later when Frank wanted to play Altobello, Eli Wallach got the part. Call it karma .
I read the role was Sinatra's if he wanted it, but once informed he had to spend major time(months) on location, he passed. Also read he wasn't thrilled with the pay.
Former TN senator, Howard Baker, died yesterday or perhaps the day before. He was a very effective legislator, concerned more with getting things done than party politics, which likely didn't help him when he ran for president. He also was called to serve as Reagan's chief of staff to bring stability to the White House after the Iran-Contra scandal was revealed.
He was also crucial after Reagan's Supreme Court nominee, Robert Bork, was rejected by the Senate around 1987. Edwin Meese and Reagan were enraged and sought to find other nominees as extreme in their views. Douglas Ginsburg was nominated, but had to withdraw as a history of marijuana use was revealed. Baker, a pragmatic conservative, was responsible for persuading the Administration to nominate judge from the Ninth Circuit, Anthony Kennedy from California, who was a conservative who had no problem breezing through the confirmation process.
Baker was also thought of as a possible Supreme Court appointment, and he likely would have been very similar to to Anthony Kennedy.
Bobby Womack, the legendary soul singer whose career spanned seven decades, died Friday at age 70. A representative for Womack's label XL Recordings confirmed the singer has died to Rolling Stone, but said the cause of death was currently unknown.
The son of two musicians, Womack began his career as a member of Curtis Womack and the Womack Brothers with his siblings Curtis, Harry, Cecil and Friendly Jr. After Sam Cooke signed the group to his SAR Records in 1960, they released a handful of gospel singles before changing their name to the Valentinos and earning success with a more secular, soul- and pop-influenced sound. In 1964, one month after the Valentinos released their hit "It's All Over Now," the Rolling Stones put out their version, which went to Number One on the U.K. singles charts.
Three months after the death of Cooke in 1964, Womack married Cooke's widow, Barbara Campbell, and the Valentinos disbanded after the collapse of SAR Records. After leaving the group, Womack became a session musician, playing guitar on several albums, including Aretha Franklin's landmark Lady Soul, before releasing his debut album, Fly Me to the Moon, in 1968. A string of successful R&B albums would follow, including Understanding and Across 110th Street, both released in 1972, 1973's Facts of Life and 1974's Lookin for a Love Again....
Teenie Hodges died WOW. Well no one gets out alive. 68 is so young. Steve Cropper is just about the last of that crew left alive. He better watch his step.
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Teenie Hodges, a guitarist and songwriter whose lithe touch on songs by Al Green and others helped shape the sound of Memphis soul in the 1970s, died on Sunday in Dallas. He was 68.
The cause was complications of emphysema, his daughter Sheila said.
Along with his brothers Leroy, on bass guitar, and Charles, on organ, Mr. Hodges was part of the celebrated house band at Hi Records in Memphis starting in the late ’60s. Distinguishing themselves from the raw style of Stax, the city’s pre-eminent soul label at the time, Hi and the producer Willie Mitchell developed a jazzier and more languid approach that still had grit and rhythmic punch.
Mr. Hodges was crucial to that sound. His warm, loosely strummed chords and gently strutting funk on Mr. Green’s classic songs like “Let’s Stay Together” and “Tired of Being Alone” made him a connoisseur’s favorite, and helped establish the Hi players as one of the premier studio teams in R&B, on par with the Funk Brothers at Motown, Stax’s regular group and the players at FAME Studios in Muscle Shoals, Ala.
Mr. Hodges was also a frequent songwriting collaborator of Mr. Green’s. Among the hits they wrote together are “Love and Happiness” and “Take Me to the River,” which has also been recorded by Talking Heads, Bryan Ferry, Etta James and many others...
"Across 110th Street" is one my favorite songs of all time. Good movie, too .
One of the best.
The song really takes me back. If you lived through the urban blight of the '70s here in New York, it really hits close to home.
And if you didn't mind the movie (Tarantino doing Blaxploitation), the intro to "Jackie Brown" is one of the best musical film introductions of recent memory. Because Pam Grier IS the '70s.
Foxy brown. Sheba baby. Coffy. Friday foster. Love me some Pam Grier. And I liked Jackie brown. Just thought he drew it out to long.
I liked it too, Cheech. A lot. But read the book that it was based on. It's even better. It's called "Rum Punch, by Elmore Leonard.
In the book, the flight attendant's name was Jackie Burke. Tarantino changed it to Jackie Brown as an homage to a character in George V. Higgin's "The Friends of Eddie Coyle."
The film was true to the book except for two minor changes. For one thing, in the book Jackie was a blonde haired White woman. Secondly, the book took place in South Florida, the film was set in California.
Mesach Taylor as Anthony Bouvier on Designing Women would often steal the show. He was hilarious. Sad to hear he died at such a young age. I couldn't find just the one clip, but if you watch this from about 10:10 to the commercial break, he was so very good at putting the snobs in their place. [video:youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3yrpDy3sCM[/video]
If he was the last surviving member, how did the group announce it?
All kidding aside, I remember them playing in bars on the Lower East Side from back when I was still a teenager. The line at CBGB would be two city blocks long to see those guys. They were never really my cup of tea, some songs I liked, but this is obviously a big loss to the music world. RIP .
South Africa has produced several writers of stature in the past half century, but few have approached the achievement of Nadine Gordimer, who has died aged 90. A significant figure in world literature, Gordimer plumbed the depths of human interaction in a society of racial tension, political oppression and sexual unease. The connection between the intimate and the public lay at the heart of her work, an apparently inexhaustible stream of novels, short stories and essays.
An outspoken voice against the evils of apartheid, Gordimer continued to express forthright views after its collapse and the emergence of a multiracial democracy..
At this point, I don't believe a cause of death has been determined for Johnny Winter. All I've heard is that he died in a hotel room in Zurich where he was on tour.
Another death to report: Broadway legend Elaine Stritch passed away today at age 89. TV viewers also knew her as Alec Baldwin's mother on "30 Rock".
That link doesn't work. I haven't been able to see what the cause of death was.
Way back in the 70s I saw him (and Edgar) and others at a Detroit Fair Grounds concert. Sorry to hear it. TIS
Hmm. The link works for me TIS.. But all it said was this
Quote:
According to the American Blues Scene, sources close to the man have confirmed that Johnny Winter has passed away at the age of 70. The cause of death is unknown at this time. John Dawson Winter III — better known as Johnny Winter — was widely regarded as one of the greatest blues guitar players in music history. Best known for his high-energy blues-rock albums and live performances in the late 1960s and ’70s, Winter also produced three Grammy Award-winning albums for blues legend Muddy Waters. Since his time with Waters, Winter has recorded several Grammy-nominated blues albums and continues to tour extensively. In 1988, he was inducted into the Blues Foundation Hall of Fame and in 2003, he was ranked 63rd in Rolling Stone magazine’s list of the “100 Greatest Guitarists of All Time.”
I first heard him on the albums Muddy Waters made shortly before he passed away. Kind of ironic that Winter's final album had another young slide virtuoso, Ben Harper, featured on it. Life is one big circle.
Also, actress Skye McCole Bartusiak has passed away at the age of 21 in her sleep. She is best known as the daughter of Mel Gibson in The Patriot (along side Heath Ledgar), and made appearance's in 24.
Also, actress Skye McCole Bartusiak has passed away at the age of 21 in her sleep. She is best known as the daughter of Mel Gibson in The Patriot (along side Heath Ledgar), and made appearance's in 24.
Really sad news to hear, and I wish for the best with both families. RIP
RIP James Garner, brilliant actor who had a great life. WTF with Skye McCole Bartusiak though, never heard of her but after looking her up i noticed she's only a few months older than me .
I always liked James Garner. Tho I did watch Maverick, I liked The Rockford Files better. He was in at least one Doris Day (light comedy)film/s I enjoyed too. Plus, he seemed like a likeable guy. Sorry to hear of his passing.
Tho I saw The Patriot,I remember Heath Ledger's performance but I don't remember Skye McCole Bartusiak. So young to die. What a shame.
I see you reading this thread a lot. You'll have to play next year!
Aaah, you know the reason, SC. I was in the funeral service industry for twenty five years, and I just can't play in good conscience. Of course I'm not judging you guys. Not by a longshot .
But you're right, I DO read this thread a lot. It's almost like a breaking news site for semi-famous deaths that I otherwise might have missed. ESPECIALLY when I see that Signor V made a post. Then I know it's going to be someone who was semi-famous, yet still beloved, from when we were growing up.
I mean, when a Michael Jackson or a Whitney Houston dies, you'd have to be living on Mars to miss it. But where else can you see "breaking news" when one of the less famous Little Rascals passes away?
ESPECIALLY when I see that Signor V made a post. Then I know it's going to be someone who was semi-famous, yet still beloved, from when we were growing up.
See what I mean?
Originally Posted By: Signor Vitelli
To backtrack a little: I see nobody mentioned the death of Martha Hyer, who passed away May 31 at the age of 89.
(CNN) -- Actress Skye McCole Bartusiak, who played Mel Gibson's youngest daughter in "The Patriot," died Saturday at her home in Houston, her mother said Sunday. She was 21. "We lost our girl," Helen McCole Bartusiak told CNN.
While investigators have not determined a cause of death, Bartusiak had been suffering from epileptic seizures in recent days, according to her mother. Bartusiak's most visible role was as the young daughter of Mel Gibson's Revolutionary War "Patriot" character in the 2000 movie. Her movie acting career began when she was just 6 in 1999 with a role in "The Cider House Rules."
I see you reading this thread a lot. You'll have to play next year!
Aaah, you know the reason, SC. I was in the funeral service industry for twenty five years, and I just can't play in good conscience. Of course I'm not judging you guys. Not by a longshot .
But you're right, I DO read this thread a lot. It's almost like a breaking news site for semi-famous deaths that I otherwise might have missed. ESPECIALLY when I see that Signor V made a post. Then I know it's going to be someone who was semi-famous, yet still beloved, from when we were growing up.
I mean, when a Michael Jackson or a Whitney Houston dies, you'd have to be living on Mars to miss it. But where else can you see "breaking news" when one of the less famous Little Rascals passes away?
Mentioning the Little Rascals, I have heard nothing about Robert Blake in awhile.
‘magicJack’ inventor Dan Borislow dies after adult league soccer match
Dan Borislow, the inventor of magicJack and a pioneer in developing phone calls over the Internet, died Monday, officials at the company he founded said. He was 52. A spokeswoman for MagicJack Vocaltec Ltd. said he died of a heart attack. MagicJack, based in West Palm Beach, Florida, and Netanya, Israel, became widely known through television commercials and infomercials beginning in 2008. More than 10 million of the devices have been sold since, MagicJack VocalTec says, and they remain a ubiquitous offering in some 25,000 stores. In a statement, MagicJack CEO Gerald Vento praised Borislow as a visionary. "Dan was a true telecom pioneer whose vision, creativity, energy, passion and single-minded focus was the driving force behind the success of magicJack," said Vento, who was named president and CEO of MagicJack VocalTec in December 2012. At the time, Borislow said it was time to hand over the reins to someone else to grow the business. Borislow was also well-known as a horse breeder and for his controversial stint as the owner of a women's soccer team. Even after the millions he made from magicJack, he made a few more million in May when he won the biggest Rainbow 6 payout in history at Gulfstream Park Racing & Casino. He paid about $7,600 to bet on the horses, and came out with $6.67 million.
To those of us of a certain age, James Shigeta will always be remembered as the male lead in the 1961 film version of the musical Flower Drum Song. That's him in the center.
He had quite as long career, besides Flower Drum Song and Die Hard.
Dick Smith, the makeup artist who did his magic on Marlon Brando in "The Godfather" died yesterday at age 92. Smith also did work on LInda Blair in "The Exorcist" and Robert DeNiro in "Taxi DRiver".
Dick Smith was, in every sense of the word, a genius. I met him several times in the 1970's and 1980's, and you couldn't help but be impressed and amazed by the man and his knowledge. One time, he even gave an impromptu lecture to a theatrical makeup class I was teaching.
He was the first head of a makeup department in the new medium of television, after World War II. He established the NBC makeup department in New York City, and ran it for several years.
He was a man who didn't mince words, and wasn't one for small talk. But, if you had a question about makeup or makeup techniques, he would always give you very detailed answers - it was best to take notes when Dick spoke! He didn't believe in keeping everything a "trade secret", and was always amazingly helpful to up-and-coming young makeup artists. Rick Baker was an early protégée of his.
In addition to GF1 & 2, and the other films SC mentioned, he also made up Dustin Hoffman in Little Big Man, Hal Holbrook in Mark Twain Tonight!, Anthony Quinn in Requiem for a Heavyweight and Marco the Magnificent, Jack Palance in Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, David Bowie in The Hunger, William Hurt and Blair Brown in Altered States, and many, many more. He received an Academy Award for his makeup on F. Murray Abraham in Amadeus, but so many of his greatest makeup creations were done before the Makeup category was added to the Oscars.
The last few years were not good, health-wise. From what I heard, he had dementia and needed full-time care. So many makeup artists who started out years ago (myself included) owe such a debt to this man - a booklet that he wrote back in the 1960's (Dick Smith's Monster Make-up Handbook) is still in print, I believe, and may just be inspiring new generations.
I know you were into Dick in your line of work, SV... wait...I mean, your work WITH Dick at least... you know what I mean!
He was an artist, to say the least. And I know you, too, were also, SV. I never did get to meet him, but I did meet you. You're a fine and talented man as well.
...but all kidding aside, guys like you and him can make or break a production. Dick was one of the best! RIP!
*I don't think I've misspoken, but, I have been slowly watching the Dean Martin Roasts that I paid for -- in 5 "easy" installments -- and maybe they've influenced me a little. lol!
I believe that only leaves Agent Tim McCarthy as the lone survivor of the assassination attempt of Mar. 31, 1981. Reagan, of course, died more than ten years ago, and I believe Officer Thomas Delahanty, who suffered permanent nerve damage, died several years ago although I'm not sure.
Oscar winner and comedian Robin Williams died this morning at 63. While his publicist wouldn’t confirm that it was a suicide, they did issue this statement. “Robin Williams passed away this morning. He has been battling severe depression of late. This is a tragic and sudden loss. The family respectfully asks for their privacy as they grieve during this very difficult time.” Williams, who won an Oscar for his supporting role in Good Will Hunting, will reprise his role as Theodore Roosevelt in the third installment of Night at the Museum this December. He had recently signed on to reprise his beloved role as Mrs. Doubtfire in a sequel to be directed by Chris Columbus and was last seen opposite Annette Bening in the indie film The Face of Love. According to a press release issued by the Marin County Coronor’s office, the Sheriff’s office suspects the death to be “suicide due to asphyxia.” The 9-1-1 phone call came in just before noon today.
He probably hung himself. Either that or he got in the car and did that tail pipe thing. I liked him, but it's just getting harder and harder to sympathize with celebrities who can't get off the drugs.
Didn't he have a heart attack/heart surgery a couple years ago. My first thought was a heart attack. Suicide really surprises me for some reason. How sad.
I wonder who found him and hey, if someone is depressed severly, why leave them at home alone? Oh well, what measures and it must have hurt! Autoerotica, car or hanging? Which asphyxia?
Just stunned. Amazing actor -- both comedic and dramatic roles (that guest appearance on SVU was chillingly brilliant).
That appearance on SVU was nothing short of amazing. I always figured they'd bring him back because he seemed to escape at the end. But it never panned out for some reason.
RIP Robin Williams. Popeye, Moscow on the Hudson, Good Morning, Vietnam, Mrs. Doubtfire, Fathers' Day, What Dreams May Come, and One Hour Photo were his best works in my opinion. His last stand up performance a few years ago had me rolling.
Best to wait for the Marin County officials to determine the cause of death.
This just guts me so badly. I grew up watching Robin Williams during the 90s, and seeing his classics. He just made everybody feel better, and forget their own problems. I will always remember him for being one of the funniest, and most sincere actor of his time. And, also a man with a really big heart helping Christopher Reeve after his accident.
I really hope he is at peace, and condolences to his family/friends.
So sad to hear. I will always remember him as the the guy who couldn´t sit still for 20 seconds. He was amazingly funny and his brilliant prformance in "Awakenings", show what a multitalented and versatile great actor he was. RIP Robin Williams.
Sometimes medication can put you into a state of depression. When you hit an older age you go on more medications. Some of them have different side effects on different people who take them.
I take two that you see in lawyer commercials for suing the manufactures. I am fine taking them. But other people can have a problem with taking them.
RIP Robin Williams. Very sad news he played a massive part in my childhood, with Jumanji, Hook and Fathers Day. Also now i respect some of his dramatic roles like One Hour Photo and Good Will Hunting.
Some guy apparently predicted it on IGN three days before it happened .
And, also a man with a really big heart helping Christopher Reeve after his accident.
Apparently they were roommates when they both were attending Juilliard. Here's a particularly touching (and typically hilarious) quote from Reeve's autobiography regarding a visit from Robin at the hospital:
"Then, at an especially bleak moment, the door flew open and in hurried a squat fellow with a blue scrub hat and a yellow surgical gown and glasses, speaking in a Russian accent. He announced that he was my proctologist, and that he had to examine me immediately...it was Robin Williams...for the first time since the accident, I laughed. My old friend had helped me know that somehow I was going to be okay."
This is terrible news, just goes to show that we know nothing until it is too late. A comedy genius who obvisoly had personal issues, but i'm shocked to read that he died via suicide. I always liked Mrs Doubtfire..
Lauren Bacall was one of my very favorite actresses. Bogie was my favorite actor. Obviously I love the old movies and Key Largo is my very favorite movie of all time. She was just a kid when Bogie brought her into movies. A bad week for us all.
Humphrey Bogart met Lauren Bacall on the set of To Have and Have Not in 1943. At the time, Bacall was 19 years old and living with her mother and Bogart was 44 and married to actress Mayo Methot. The couple wed in 1945, had two children and remained together until his death from cancer in 1957.
Wasn't it normal for men to marry women who were much younger than they were back then?
It was for a long time. I know that Chaplin him self like women younger than him. I think all of them except for one were over 18 when he married them.
President John Tyler actually married a woman who was in her 20's and he was some where in his 60's. They had children, and actually two grandsons's of his are still living right now which is really crazy to think about. Tyler him self was living when Washington was President.
Actress Arlene Martel died August 12 at the age of 78. She will be remembered for playing T'Pring (Spock's would-be fiancée) in the "Amok Time" episode of the original Star Trek series. She also played opposite Robert Culp in the classic Outer Limits episode "Demon With A Glass Hand" (scripted by Harlan Ellison), as well as many other roles on TV.
Actress Arlene Martel died August 12 at the age of 78. She will be remembered for playing T'Pring (Spock's would-be fiancée) in the "Amok Time" episode of the original Star Trek series. She also played opposite Robert Culp in the classic Outer Limits episode "Demon With A Glass Hand" (scripted by Harlan Ellison), as well as many other roles on TV.
I had just posted her in the "Character Actors" thread a few weeks ago. Born in the Bronx, she showed some exotic look that let her play anything from Frenchwoman (Hogan's Heroes) to a Vulcan.
SC, a cursory look at the lists shows that you are leading the pack with seven names while a few of us have five. With 3 1/2 months left you may be hard to beat.
SC, a cursory look at the lists shows that you are leading the pack with seven names while a few of us have five. With 3 1/2 months left you may be hard to beat.
Actually, I have TEN kills.
Mary Stewart (author) died in May. Walter Walsh (Olympian) died in April. Lawrence Walsh (attorney) died in March.
None of these three have been noted as dead on my list.
Every player in this year's game should check their own list for accuracy and completeness.
SC, a cursory look at the lists shows that you are leading the pack with seven names while a few of us have five. With 3 1/2 months left you may be hard to beat.
Actually, I have TEN kills.
Mary Stewart (author) died in May. Walter Walsh (Olympian) died in April. Lawrence Walsh (attorney) died in March.
None of these three have been noted as dead on my list.
Every player in this year's game should check their own list for accuracy and completeness.
Richard Attenborough has passed away at the age of 90. He is best known for being in The Great Escape, and Jurassic Park. Directing A Bridge Too Far, Chaplin, and Gandhi. RIP to a great talent.
Richard Attenborough has passed away at the age of 90. He is best known for being in The Great Escape, and Jurassic Park. Directing A Bridge Too Far, Chaplin, and Gandhi. RIP to a great talent.
I was never a fan. But what a terrible thing to go in for minor surgery and never wake up. The cynic in me has to wonder if it was some kind of elective procedure?
Because she was never shy about the plastic surgery. But either way, RIP. And I feel bad for her daughter. It seems to me that she'll be lost without her Mom.
But what a terrible thing to go in for minor surgery and never wake up. The cynic in me has to wonder if it was some kind of elective procedure?
She apparently went in for throat surgery, for some chronic problem: "Yorkville Endoscopy, where the 81-year-old comedian went for a minor procedure on Aug. 28, has attracted the attention of state health officials, who are looking into what went wrong."
She's lived on the Upper East Side all her life. She'll go to Frank E. Campbell's. Guaranteed. The only other possibility would be Riverside on the West Side. But I doubt it.
The funeral itself might end up at Temple Emanu-El on Fifth Avenue. I don't believe she was very devout in her faith. But that's a money Temple. Michael Bloomberg, Barbara Walters, et al. Big money, high profile congregation.
I liked Joan Rivers way more in the beginning of her career as opposed to later years. I remember many times seeing her on Ed Sullivan.
Decades ago, Rivers ALWAYS teased/joked about Liz Taylor's weight. She was so blunt!! I remember her saying that every time Liz was in McDonalds, you'd see the "millions served number" (for those who remember)rise at a very fast pace,
But what a terrible thing to go in for minor surgery and never wake up. The cynic in me has to wonder if it was some kind of elective procedure?
I've had that procedure done a few times - it's an endoscopy - they send a little camera down your throat and look around for things like growths, tumors, ulcers, etc. I never thought of it as being risky but I guess it's still "surgery" and ANY surgery has a degree of risk.
She's lived on the Upper East Side all her life. She'll go to Frank E. Campbell's. Guaranteed. The only other possibility would be Riverside on the West Side. But I doubt it.
The funeral itself might end up at Temple Emanu-El on Fifth Avenue. I don't believe she was very devout in her faith. But that's a money Temple. Michael Bloomberg, Barbara Walters, et al. Big money, high profile congregation.
Correct, as usual - Temple Emanu-El on Sunday. RIP.
Ugh, this year has just been tough. A lot of great talent gone this year and some of the funniest people on earth. Sid Caesar, Harold Ramis, Robin, and now Joan. RIP to a talented, funny, controversial lady.
She's lived on the Upper East Side all her life. She'll go to Frank E. Campbell's. Guaranteed. The only other possibility would be Riverside on the West Side. But I doubt it.
The funeral itself might end up at Temple Emanu-El on Fifth Avenue. I don't believe she was very devout in her faith. But that's a money Temple. Michael Bloomberg, Barbara Walters, et al. Big money, high profile congregation.
Correct, as usual - Temple Emanu-El on Sunday. RIP.
Thanks, Mikey. But correct, as usual? Not hardly .
I spent 25 years in funeral service in this City, mostly in Manhattan and Brooklyn. And this one was a no-brainer. She's famous, Jewish, moneyed, and she's lived on the Upper East Side almost all her life.
The only other possibility would have been the Park East Synagogue on East 67th Street. But that place is for a slightly more devout clientele (and I'm not making any assumptions about her dedication to her faith, but I've read that she considered herself "culturally Jewish," but not very devout ).
The only other possibility would have been the Park East Synagogue on East 67th Street. But that place is for a slightly more devout clientele (and I'm not making any assumptions about her dedication to her faith, but I've read that she considered herself "culturally Jewish," but not very devout.
If she was more "devout" the funeral would be held tomorrow (and not three days later as it is being held).
The only other possibility would have been the Park East Synagogue on East 67th Street. But that place is for a slightly more devout clientele (and I'm not making any assumptions about her dedication to her faith, but I've read that she considered herself "culturally Jewish," but not very devout.
If she was more "devout" the funeral would be held tomorrow (and not three days later as it is being held).
Of course. That goes without saying.
If she was a poor and devout Russian Jewish woman living in a fifth floor walk-up on King's Highway, the ritual washing would already be done, she'd be wrapped and casketed, there'd be a shomer with her all night, and she'd be ready to go out to Washington Cemetery on Bay Parkway and MacDonald Avenue first thing tomorrow morning .
She's lived on the Upper East Side all her life. She'll go to Frank E. Campbell's. Guaranteed. The only other possibility would be Riverside on the West Side. But I doubt it.
The funeral itself might end up at Temple Emanu-El on Fifth Avenue. I don't believe she was very devout in her faith. But that's a money Temple. Michael Bloomberg, Barbara Walters, et al. Big money, high profile congregation.
Correct, as usual - Temple Emanu-El on Sunday. RIP.
It's like that with any good Roman Catholic Italian in or around Chicago... You die and are laid to rest at Mount Carmel Cemetery in Hillside, Illinois. We literally spend an entire day there paying respects to dozens of passed relatives and friends.
She's lived on the Upper East Side all her life. She'll go to Frank E. Campbell's. Guaranteed. The only other possibility would be Riverside on the West Side. But I doubt it.
The funeral itself might end up at Temple Emanu-El on Fifth Avenue. I don't believe she was very devout in her faith. But that's a money Temple. Michael Bloomberg, Barbara Walters, et al. Big money, high profile congregation.
Correct, as usual - Temple Emanu-El on Sunday. RIP.
It's like that with any good Roman Catholic Italian in or around Chicago... You die and are laid to rest at Mount Carmel Cemetery in Hillside, Illinois. We literally spend an entire day there paying respects to dozens of passed relatives and friends.
That has to be a very interesting cemetery. North Side Gang and the Chicago Outfit in one place.
That has to be a very interesting cemetery. North Side Gang and the Chicago Outfit in one place.
Funny you mention that, Bam. Whenever I'd take a funeral to Saint John's Cemetery in Middle Village, or Green-Wood Cemetery in Brooklyn, I'd joke that there were enough wiseguys there to start a sixth family.
Jews and Italians are the same - except Italians have better food.
WAY better, in general... but Italian gets pretty boring and redundant after a while!
...then again, how much corned beef and pastrami can one eat?
A lot! ...but still.
Kasha varnishkes -- not offensive, but boring. Kishka -- not boring, yet offensive! lol
But to be honest, I'm sick and tired of Italian red sauce (it's not "gravy" you fakes, unless it's an all-day stew type thing!) after all these years... I'd much prefer a quick pan sauce of wine/butter/garlic or something that actually is made right there.
Then again... what the fuck beats a bagel or bialy with lox?? (bagel with cream cheese, but bialy with butter - that's how I roll)
...or Matzah brei with a sprinkle of sugar?
Food is good, and good food is better. Doesn't matter where it comes from!
The only other possibility would have been the Park East Synagogue on East 67th Street. But that place is for a slightly more devout clientele (and I'm not making any assumptions about her dedication to her faith, but I've read that she considered herself "culturally Jewish," but not very devout.
If she was more "devout" the funeral would be held tomorrow (and not three days later as it is being held).
And furthermore, she was cremated on a SATURDAY. So much for Shabbos!
I only heard this within the last couple of days, but Joan Rivers recently had her arm tattooed with "6M" - for the six million Jews who died during the Holocaust.
If you follow strict Jewish law (which she obviously didn't), tattoos are forbidden; you must leave this world as you entered it.
I am not mentioning this to judge in any way, only as a point of information.
I only heard this within the last couple of days, but Joan Rivers recently had her arm tattooed with "6M" - for the six million Jews who died during the Holocaust.
If you follow strict Jewish law (which she obviously didn't), tattoos are forbidden; you must leave this world as you entered it.
I am not mentioning this to judge in any way, only as a point of information.
Signor V.
That's interesting, SV. You know I'm not Jewish, but you also know that I worked in the Jewish community for many years and I consider myself close to Judaism. Without Judaism, there's no Catholicism. There's no Christianity at all, for that matter.
Anyway, I wasn't judging Joan either. I've known divorced Catholics who have wormed their way into Church weddings through sham annulments, and I've known a Jew or two who enjoyed a bacon, egg and cheese sandwich. Do you follow me?
Big picture and all that. If you're a person of faith, and you do more good than bad in this world, I think the man upstairs will reward you for it (tattoos, divorces and dietary laws aside). But that's just me .
Actor Richard Kiel has passed away at the age of 74. Best known as Jaws in a couple of James Bond movies, and Adam Sandler's boss in Happy Gilmore. RIP
Frank Torre, older brother of Joe Torre, and a decent ballplayer in his own right died at age 82. Nobody had picked him on their list despite his being in failing health for a few years. Both Torre brothers played for the Braves together in the '60s. They were residents of the next neighborhood over from mine (Marine Park).
Frank Torre, older brother of Joe Torre, and a decent ballplayer in his own right died at age 82. Nobody had picked him on their list despite his being in failing health for a few years. Both Torre brothers played for the Braves together in the '60s. They were residents of the next neighborhood over from mine (Marine Park).
R.I.P. Frank
God bless him, though. They had the guy dead in '96. Eighteen quality years with a heart transplant. Great story .
Frank Torre, older brother of Joe Torre, and a decent ballplayer in his own right died at age 82. Nobody had picked him on their list despite his being in failing health for a few years. Both Torre brothers played for the Braves together in the '60s. They were residents of the next neighborhood over from mine (Marine Park).
R.I.P. Frank
I used to live in Marine park. There was a Joe Torre youth baseball club house on Marine Park on ave S east 34 street
Pretty good except remember that Jews and Italians are the same - except Italians have better food.
My good friend Mr. Grossman used to say that the only difference between Jews and Italians was that the grandmothers had different accents.
Sorry to see anyone pass, but especially so out of the blue like that. RIP Joan.
My dear departed father was an Hungarian Jew married my mother Italian catholic originally from Naples. He was an original stalker. His friends had the candy store on Hun 10 strett Subway station. He saw her comming out of the subway.
He told his friends he was going to marry that women. Unfortunately for all of us he did.
He was more like us then we knew go figure?
But I do remember this about him when I was very young. The women with sit outside talking. When the Italian men would come home they never would kiss their wives in public.
They would kiss their men friends but not their wives.
My Daddio would kiss my mother in front of the other ladies outside. I seem to remember the other ladies would smile they liked to see him do that.
To bad his personality changed once we got in the house.
NEW YORK (AP) Emmy-winning actress and singer Polly Bergen, who in a long career played the terrorized wife in the original "Cape Fear" and the first woman president in "Kisses for My President," died Saturday, according to her publicist. She was 84.
Yes, I just heard of Bergen's passing. I remember her from way back. From Cape Fear to Doris Day movies (can't recall which)and more recently she was in a season of Desperate Housewives.
Anyone remember years ago (70s I think), she started her own line of skin/beauty products with turtle oil I believe. She did always look nice. RIP
Oh no! I'm sorry to hear that. I had some of their music and thought Mark Lindsay was great as their lead singer. "Kicks" and "Just Like Me" couple of my favorites, off the top of my head. AND, I liked Lindsay solo "Indian Reservation" as well.
Holder had a great speaking voice. If I'm not mistaken he did a commercial on tv for some soda, and it was wonderful to hear that voice boom out "Uncola" (with that Caribbean accent).
She was also in the Sopranos, playing the mistress of Johnny Soprano.
I remember her in those episodes. She played the part quite well.
Sorry I missed this post. But she played the part of a broken down wiseguy whore to the letter.
Whenever I watch the scene where she starts singing Happy Birthday to Tony, a la Marilyn Monroe, I throw up in my mouth a little. And I have to believe that's what David Chase had in mind.
She was also in the Sopranos, playing the mistress of Johnny Soprano.
I remember her in those episodes. She played the part quite well.
Sorry I missed this post. But she played the part of a broken down wiseguy whore to the letter.
Whenever I watch the scene where she starts singing Happy Birthday to Tony, a la Marilyn Monroe, I throw up in my mouth a little. And I have to believe that's what David Chase had in mind.
When I first saw Cape Fear in the movies the one staring Mitchem and Bergin where he breaks the egg and rubs the egg into her really nice breasts. I got a jump from that scene
Evidently Mitchem to he said in an interview he didn't think Bergin had any interest in him until he saw her reaction to that scene. Then they made up for all the lost time.
For some reason I always imagine Footreads comments as noir movie monologues with dim lighting and lots of cigarette smoke.
I saw her standing on the corner of 86th street. She had skin like velvet and hair like a lion's mane. *Puffs cigarette* I think she was in the women's liberation movement.
By the way Footreads, I hope you don't take it the wrong way. I really enjoy reading your comments. You have a unique style.
I smoked cigars back them I would light up at apx 5:30 am at the end of the night then drive home.
Some days when I had to stay awake I would take no doz. then I would hit a light and go crazy and try to rip off the steering wheel off waiting for the light to change. If I would get cut off I would race in front of the guy who cut me off. Then start curing at the driver sometimes I would break his side window and try to pull him out the side window or open the door then tattoo him and run him over with his own car I was famous for that or grab his ear and ripe it off his head famous for that as well.
eli Wallach... great actor, lived to a long age 9os I believe, was said to have the part of Maggio in from "here to eternity" until the mob stepped in and got the part for that skinny little canary.
eli Wallach... great actor, lived to a long age 9os I believe, was said to have the part of Maggio in from "here to eternity" until the mob stepped in and got the part for that skinny little canary.
That's bullshit, Binnie. Ava Gardner got him the part through Harry Cohn. Period. That other urban legend took on a life of its own after Puzo wrote it into "The Godfather."
p.b. well, ok.ill go with the ava gardner story. but, you know lots of people belive the other one, and the story of how he got out of the contract with tommy Dorsey. ive heard two versions of that one. one was willie morreti stuck a gun in tommy dorseys mouth, and the other one somebody gave Dorsey 60gs. I guess this belongs on another thread. but, boy, are there stories out there about this guy.
mignon.. eli Wallach and karl malden had to be right up there with the oldest actors. oh, and ernest borgnine was in his 90s also.not very many actors live that long.
p.b. well, ok.ill go with the ava gardner story. but, you know lots of people belive the other one
Some people will believe anything.
Originally Posted By: Binnie_Coll
and the story of how he got out of the contract with tommy Dorsey. ive heard two versions of that one. one was willie morreti stuck a gun in tommy dorseys mouth, and the other one somebody gave Dorsey 60gs. I guess this belongs on another thread.
More bullshit. Tommy Dorsey was paid millions of dollars over time. That pig Kittey Kelley even acknowledged as much (as did Anthony Summers, who wrote a much more competent biography about Sinatra). And this was in the '40s, which would translate into much more than that today. It's a matter of public record. But when Puzo wrote that sensationalist bullshit, it took on a life of its own.
Originally Posted By: Binnie_Coll
but, boy, are there stories out there about this guy.
And that's just what most of them are. Stories.
Look, it's obvious that you didn't like the guy. Fine. And there was a lot about Sinatra to dislike. He was a bully. He hid behind the mob. And a whole lot more than that. But that story about Dorsey and his contract would have eventually died out like any other silly rumor if Puzo didn't write about it. There was no gun, no Luca, and no threat of brains on a contract.
Sinatra has too be one of the most overrated singers ever..
Wrong. That would be those four limeys from Liverpool .
never could understand the adoration of the beatles, maybe a couple of songs not much else. never could understand the love of john lennon either. he was anti-American to his core. yet, he took all the money he made here. kitty kellys book turned me against Sinatra, if it all wasn't true why didn't he sue her. why didn't he sue puzo. if puzo lied then he did Sinatra a very grave disservice, and if Kelly lied, the same.
yes, Sinatra was a great entertainer, one of the worlds greatest. and he lasted forever. personally I loved dean martin, and vic damone. but, never listen to Sinatra.
My opinion of Sinatra is that he was a great singer/entertainer but as a human being he was an asshole. Just my opinion on the guy.
He was hounded by the press and most of the reporters were just after a story to make a name for themselves. Sinatra was an extremely compassionate and generous guy, often paying medical bills for friends and others who could not afford to pay.
Don't get mad, it's just my opinion. I saw Frank in concert once in AC, he was having trouble remembering some of the words to his songs but it was still great seeing him live. The crowd loved him.
Don't get mad, it's just my opinion. I saw Frank in concert once in AC, he was having trouble remembering some of the words to his songs but it was still great seeing him live. The crowd loved him.
I saw him eleven times in between 1976 and 1994. And yes, during the final years it was sometimes difficult to look at him. It was almost like watching a once great fighter get beat up in his middle age. But it was still an experience that was unparalleled.
As far as AC, he was best when playing the Copa Room at the Sands because it was small and the acoustics were great. He was at Resorts early on and the room was just too big.
I also saw him at Trop World with Tony Bennett in a very small room called the Top of the Trop. And he was never better than he was that night. Small room. Intimate. Great acoustics. And he was already in his '70s at the time. Later in his life, with his voice, acoustics were everything while singing live .
I think Sinatra's diction when he sang was the thing that set him apart from all the rest. You could understand every word he sang
Good point, psycho (relax, you're growing on me and that's my new pet name for you ).
Anyway, you're right on point because virtually every one of his biographer's has stated that speech was very important to Sinatra. And not just with his singing voice. Even when he spoke he consciously tried to distance himself from the typical NY/NJ "accent" because he thought it would hold him back.
I think Sinatra's diction when he sang was the thing that set him apart from all the rest. You could understand every word he sang
Good point, psycho (relax, you're growing on me and that's my new pet name for you ).
Anyway, you're right on point because virtually every one of his biographer's has stated that speech was very important to Sinatra. And not just with his singing voice. Even when he spoke he consciously tried to distance himself from the typical NY/NJ "accent" because he thought it would hold him back.
One of the consistent comments from other artists and singing teachers is about the excellent phrasing manifested by Sinatra when he sang.
mignon.. eli Wallach and karl malden had to be right up there with the oldest actors. oh, and ernest borgnine was in his 90s also.not very many actors live that long.
There are still quite a few who are really old, and kicking it at the moment. Kirk Douglas, Olivia De Havilland, Zsa Zsa, Abe Vigoda, Maureen O' Hara, etc.
Honestly though I have doubts about Zsa Zsa still being alive.
Honestly though I have doubts about Zsa Zsa still being alive.
Her husband is almost thirty years younger than she is. Maybe he had her stuffed so he can still cash her checks.
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised.There is a story of a family keeping their relative's dead body for decades, so they could get her checks. It was only found out because she was the oldest 'living' person, so it was found out soon after they tried to make it official.
Her husband is really something else. The guy tried to claim that Anne Nicole Smith's daughter is his, and like a year later he was found in his car stripped and handcuffed claiming he was mugged/robbed.
Honestly though I have doubts about Zsa Zsa still being alive.
Her husband is almost thirty years younger than she is. Maybe he had her stuffed so he can still cash her checks.
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised.There is a story of a family keeping their relative's dead body for decades, so they could get her checks. It was only found out because she was the oldest 'living' person, so it was found out soon after they tried to make it official.
Her husband is really something else. The guy tried to claim that Anne Nicole Smith's daughter is his, and like a year later he was found in his car stripped and handcuffed claiming he was mugged/robbed.
Ha ha ha! Yea I remember that. He is one weirdo that's for sure. Doesn't he say he's a Prince or a Count or something?
Ha ha ha! Yea I remember that. He is one weirdo that's for sure. Doesn't he say he's a Prince or a Count or something?
TIS
He really is a piece of work, Tis. He was on Beverly Hills Pawn last year trying to sell something of Zsa Zsa's. I don't remember if it was jewelry or clothing, but they were throwing around some very big numbers. But those shows turn me off so I didn't watch the end. I'm not sure if he sold it or not.
Marcia Strassman passed away yesterday after a seven year fight against breast cancer at the age of 66. Best known for costarring as Julie Kotter in 'Welcome Back, Mr. Kotter' and playing the wife to Rick Moranis in the 'Honey I shrunk the Kids' series.
He's survived by his brother Ray, their Russian chauffer Picov Andropov, their Head of Working Mothers Support Group Erasmus B. Dragon, their Mother-in-Law Liaison Stella Payne Diaz, her Russian daughter Sasha Payne Diaz, her Swedish son Bjorn A. Payne Diaz, their Compulsive Lawn Care Specialist Moses Lonergan, their Airline Seat Tester Wilma Butfit, their Bad Joke Interpreter Nadia Geddit, and their Chief Legal Counsel Hugh Louis Dewey of the firm of Dewey, Cheetham, and Howe.
Oh yea, I know who he is. I use to love that show. I know (nor care) anything about cars, but came across the program while listening to PBS channel. I didn't listen all the time but I found them so funny and fun to listen to. I'm sorry to hear he passed.
Actor Richard Schaal has passed away at the age of 86. He was once married to Valerie Harper. He has appeared on the Mary Tyler Moore Show 4 times (once as Chuckles the Clown), Rhoda, and Phyllis. RIP
Carol Susi died at 62. For our Big Bang Theory enthusiasts (like me), she was the voice of Howard's mother.
That voice is going to be difficult to duplicate. Although in this day and age, they could probably generate it through some kind of voice recognition software. I wonder if, legally speaking, the producers would have to compensate her family for that?
Sorry to hear that Jimmy Ruffin passed away. A talented Motown artist who's brother, David, was lead singer in one of my favorite groups, The Temptations.
Ruffin's "What Becomes Of The Broken Hearted" is one of my all time favorites. Perfect song for lost love.
Sorry to hear about Jimmy Ruffin. His brother was crazy and drug addled, but he was the best lead singer The Temptations ever had. Dennis Edwards was okay, but he was no David Ruffin.
Australia Test batsman Phillip Hughes has died aged 25, two days after being struck on the top of the neck by a ball during a domestic match in Sydney.
You're all a bunch of ghouls. Especially you, SC. Do you check the obits every night at midnight?
Not me. That would be awful.
I use the 10 p.m. obits in the late paper. (Get the head start).
Ba-dum-bum .
Fourteen kills, though. And the year's not even over yet. Pretty impressive. I'd take you easily, though. And here's why:
When I was in funeral service we'd get a lot of celebrity funerals throughout the company. Los Angeles, Manhattan, it didn't matter because all of the arrangements and pre-arrangements came through the Manhattan operations office. A celebrity death would be reported and the general public would be shocked. But we knew it was coming months, sometimes a year or two in advance. Because people with money are very big on pre-arrangements.
And that's why, even now, I don't play in the pool here. It's not that I think it's ghoulish, per se. It's just that it wouldn't be very ethical on my part, even though I've been retired for over eight years.
Just wanted to stress to you again that i was only kidding around...We're all gonna be there one day, so we might as well talk and joke about it rather than be afraid of it. Because that's one thing in life that's inevitable....Bless
Just wanted to stress to you i was only kidding around...We're all gonna be there one day, so we might as well talk and joke about it rather than be afraid of it. Because that's one thing in life that's inevitable....Bless
Oh,no problem. I know you were joking. Let's face it tho, it is sadistic.
At least it's not a thread started out of any kind of hate/malice, like some other topics we've had here on the BB.
Former child actor Ken Weatherwax, best known as "Pugsley" on the original 1960's TV series The Addams Family died December 7 at age 59. Cause of death was a heart attack.
PB, the sad thing is this isn't a high school teen being a troll. This guy is like in his twenties or thirties that truly believes what he is writing.
Like just looked out of mom's basement window and thought to himself: "Today I spread the word for the IRA....the world now knows"
I don't even have anything against the IRA. But any group who believes that it's okay for them to kill but judges the rest of the world for doing the same thing is the very definition of a terrorist organization.
I remember Virna Lisi as well, tho I don't know if I could name her movies. For some reason I think she was with Tony Curtis in a romantic comedy. I'll have to check
Not sure. I haven't sat down to draw up a list yet, and time is running out. Certain people have been prodding me for years, trying to get me to join the festivities, but I seem to have settled into a comfy niche as the GBB's resident lurking vulture.
Yes, you have until midnight Wednesday night (Eastern) to PM me your lists for 2015.
Please, also remember to audit your own lists from 2014 to be sure all your "kills" are counted. One way is to google each "alive" name -- anyone who dies in 2014 won't count if they're still on your 2015 list. You can post your missed "kills" here, as usual. And if I missed any from the past year, please include those as well.
See Page 1 of this thread for the rules and guidelines, which will be the same for next year.
"Lucky" for me, I don't have many slots to refill.
Two time Oscar winner (The Great Ziegfeld and The Good Earth) Luise Rainer has passed away at the age of 104. Another part of the Golden Era is gone forever, but I hope never forgotten. RIP
Actor Edward Herrmann died today at age 71 from brain cancer. A versatile actor whose career spanned over forty years, he was probably best known for his portrayals of FDR and his role on the TV series Gilmore Girls.
The hell with it, I'm throwing my hat in this year! I'll have my list ready in about an hour, Geoff!
Yeah X!!!!!!
Hey, you freezing your ass out there in OC? It's damn cold here. LOL
TIS
It's been wicked cold, hasn't it? And that wind!
My wife's mom and dad live in Lake Elsinore, and they actually got about three inches of snow!
My daughter, here in Corona drove a few blocks away toward mountains. My grandkids made a snowman. There was enough snow around the edges. They're all excited. LOL
Suppose to get down to 32 today!! I can't take it I tell you!!!! Ha ha
Doesn't say what he died of.
Not at all.... I did the same. I had him on my list a few years ago and I can't remember or understand why I removed him in subsequent years.
They'd appear together sometimes too, if I remember correctly.
I forgot that he was in Wait Until Dark (Loved that film too). I'll always remember him from (sing along old timers) "77 Sunset Strip (snap snap)." 
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Well no one gets out alive. 68 is so young. Steve Cropper is just about the last of that crew left alive. He better watch his step.
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