3 abducted women found alive after 10 yrs

This story broke last evening after dinner. Three women, 2 who were kidnapped as teenagers, escaped captivity after spending nearly a decade with their captors.

It hit home for me because the victims were held not far from where I work. And these stories were on the local news and even America's Most Wanted over the years.

There is a lot more to the story that will surface. One disturbing rumor is that there are supposed to be human remains in the alleged kidnappers backyard. One of the abducted women bore a child during captivity. The fear is that the remains be of other children.

This was a story with some similarity to bin Laden. These women were held in plain sight in a very poor neighborhood with closes nearly on top of one another. One of the victims was kidnapped a few blocks from where I lived a long time ago. They were held for the past ten years approximately 5 miles from their abduction locations.

Just an incredible story.

Nightmare over for 3 abducted women

It's all over the news, Goom. Great story. Well, a great ending anyway. Now it's up to the good people of Ohio to make sure that the three animal brothers who took these little girls (two of them were minors at the time) never see the light of day again.

And another "returnee" from Ohio, goombah, is back too! Always good to see ya!!

Agreed, PB, however your comment is an insult to all animals.

I know. Bad habit. I do it all the time, though .

So let me rephrase: Now it's up to the good people of Ohio to make sure that the three pieces of human garbage who took these little girls (two of them were minors at the time) never see the light of day again.

Human garbage shouldn't offend anyone, well, except for human garbage. And who cares about them anyway?

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Human garbage shouldn't offend anyone, well, except for human garbage. And who cares about them anyway? [/quote]

Point taken, and in the process you are following the policies of the BB moderators by not mentioning the names of certain people who post in other threads, like, say, oh I don't know...maybe "Gun Control?"

The main witness sounded a bit crazy, but he helped pull Amanda Berry out of the house. I heard a snippet this morning when police asked him to describe what Amanda was wearing. To which he replied one of those "wife beaters."




Thanks SC. Life has just been getting in the way, but I'm trying to pop in to the BB when I can.

yep, people who disagree with you on guns should be included in the same category as kidnappers and labeled human garbage. thats very dignified of you, really showing all of the class that has helped make our country the legal cesspool that it has become.

The hell that these girls who became women endured is already starting to be reported.

Women had 5 pregnancies during captivity.



Right now I am favoring the approach Joe Pesci used in "Casino" when he had that guy's head in a vice...

I didn't see the news yesterday but I seen it all over facebook. This is fantastic news. May God be with them as they start the healing process.

First of all Welcome back Goombah my friend. Hope all is well with you.


I caught the news banner headline last night when it first happened and have been gone most of this morning so am just catching up on this story. So amazing.

I just can't even begin to imagine what these girls have gone thru. I hear the girl that called had a 6 yr old. A decade of their lives robbed, not to mention the thought of any other violations we still don't know about. One girl's mother had a heart attack fairly recently I believe. How horrible she died not knowing what happened. The epitome of heartbreak if you ask me.

Btw, does anyone else think the 911 operator, tho asking the right questions, seemed kind of cold??

TIS

Man who found the missing girls

Sure are alot of sick minded people in this world. Really makes you wonder.

I'm not sure if there were multiple calls made but this is the unedited first one by the neighbor Charles Ramsey. Just about every other word out of his mouth is f**k. It's actually kind of funny but then you remember this guy was the key to their freedom.

http://media.cleveland.com/pdextra/audio/amanda-berry-911-call-2.mp3

I can't believe they were all in that house for 10 years and nobody had a clue what was going on.

Hi TIS! Good to hear from you too!

I'm not excusing it, but here is why the 911 operator appeared to be somewhat disbelieving. There were several false leads that came in during these disappearances. One was even a cruel hoax in which an inmate claimed that he knew where one of these girls was buried. The police dug up a location only to discover it not to be true.

I know more answers will be forthcoming. But it appears that these women were held captive for around 10 years. There appear to have been at least 3 men confining the women. How did Amanda Berry crawl out of there and these guys not know? It would seem that given the vast amount of time they held the women captive, it was obvious that they were not going to let them go. Did the kidnappers simply tire of keeping up this ruse or did they let their guard down for just a minute? If it's the latter, then even more kudos go to Amanda Berry for never giving up.

Point taken, and in the process you are following the policies of the BB moderators by not mentioning the names of certain people who post in other threads, like, say, oh I don't know...maybe "Gun Control?" [/quote]

Now that is not fair DT..we in the Gun control do not call you names in that thread! ....

Thank God for the fifth amen.

It's difficult, if not impossible, to comprehend the extent of evil that people can inflict. We can be grateful for the return of three lives, whose loved ones had considered lost, but it is heartbreaking, as TIS pointed out, to think about how mangled their lives had been suffering for a decade or more. It is hard to imagine each Christmas, birthday, school graduation, wedding, etc. that took place without their presence, how the families anguished unknowingly while their loved ones were locked away blocks from their home. I can't imagine the mental torment that the girls had suffered, existing in fear, isolation and darkness.

And perhaps the most depressing thought is that without a doubt right now there are young missing girls or boys suffering a similar existence somewhere.

"An insult to animals." Does it really matter? It's not like animals read gangster bb and get offended .

Like that missing British girl Madeleine McCann. I don't think the parents were involved so that means she was kidnapped with bad intentions and if she is still alive i can only imagine what her situation is.

The bizarro world of humanity. We are capable of such brilliance, compassion and creativity ...and then this shit happens. Unimaginable. Where is Love?

I hope those 3 guys that got arrested get raped in prison every day.

I read that one of the girls mum died three years after she was kidnapped from a broken heart, so sad..

Yes, I remember that cute little girl. I don't think her parents were involved either. I can only imagine what they must be going thru. Perhaps tho, this story will give them hope that she is alive somewhere. They never found a body so maybe. It IS so heartbreaking.

TIS

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There's a very good chance that will happen. It's a shame they couldn't be tortured

As said earlier, God bless these young women as they recover. I can't imagine what their families went through. Just glad they're safe now.

The man who rescued the women is quite a character.

He does seems like a really nice guy and is quite a hero. He was asked about any reward money and said to "give it to the victims."




TIS

Every semester I post on my instructional system a link to Missing Children website. Periodically throughout the semester I review some of the link's content. I tell my students that these kids are living next door to someone. Here's the link:

http://www.missingkids.com/home

Oli, that's great that you do that. Especially after this current story. To think, these girls were actually close to home and like you say, somebody's neighbor. Very chilling.

Btw, Amanda Berry is to make a statement any time now.



TIS

It seems that in those few instances when these victims are found, they are usually very close to home.

It seems that the Cleveland Police had occasion to visit the Castro residence several times in the past ten years, including one time when a young, naked woman had been reported to be crawling in the back yard, but apparently the door wouldn't be answered and the police did nothing further.

I really think getting raped in prison is wrong and unfair.

But for this case I really can't argue. I mean really 10 years of trapping these young women. I don't hope they do, but believe me I will not be bothered if they do.

I mean 10 years. These are the type of people who deserve to do hard time.

Really 10 years?

It's very nice of the man to give the reward money to the victims. That's rare for somebody to do nowadays.

Tbe guy looks like ODB he will get some $$$ from this its not like these gurls were missing for a day,week,month, or year but 10 years ...

Don't know what ODB is.

He MAY get money in the end, but the fact remains his gesture to give it all to the families IS admirable.

I know if he helped rescue my child or loved one, I'd be eternally grateful and I'd want to pay him something.

TIS

He's already been auto-tuned...

The police were called several times, according to the story I read today. They were called when someone saw the daughter of one of the victims with one of the Castro brothers. Another time, one of the neighbors saw a woman and child banging on a window that had some planks torn away. These poor women were imprisoned and raped, and I read that there were five births, although the only child they mention is the one daughter who is around 6 years old.

What justice is there for these women? There's no way you can make up for ripping them from their lives they knew, the friends and families they loved for a decade. How can you possibly measure justice for that?

More bs from Slyvia Browne - http://www.wkyc.com/news/story.aspx?storyid=26501. I honestly despise that woman.

This article - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/08/ariel-castro-had-ropes-an_n_3237412.html says one woman had 3 miscarriages because of their beatings and Knight may have had 1 which would explain the 5 pregnancies. Scumbags

Police sources said the 6-year-old-girl was occasionally taken out of the house and would visit suspect Ariel Castro's mother, Lillian Rodriguez, whom she called "grandmother." I wonder if his mother knew the circumstances if so charges should be brought against her too. http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/natio...castro/2143919/

How do you not know? If your son brought over his child, wouldn't you ask about the mother? Wouldn't you ask where the child lives?

Creepy coincedence one of the kidnappers sons wrote about the victims - http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/05/07/castro-son-berry-dejesus/2140721/

I just heard on the news that the potentially could each get four life without parole sentences. one for each of the girls and one for the baby. This is still too good for them. It was also mentioned that they are now checking on their immigration status

That's exactly what i was thinking, she'll be brought into the case anyway because the other 2 sons where living with her which implicates her even more imo.

I wonder if the Ashley Summers case is connected like the FBI suspect, i personally don't think it is because summers supposedly called her mum saying she was fine while Berry's mum got called by one of the Castro brothers saying they were getting married. But i suppose she could've been forced into making the call if so i suspect she may be dead sadly.

The allegation of a nude woman being in the backyard in chains was refuted by the police today. They determined after extensive FBI interviews with the victims that this claim was unsubstantiated.

Among the many disturbing disclosures, Amanda Berry said that she was only outside of that house twice on her ten years of being held. Think about that. Most of us probably left our homes twice today. She was taken to the garage in a disguise.

Amanda's escape was the 3rd time she was outdoors. She apparently escaped by herself. The other two women were so psychologically abused and fearful that they did not attempt to escape.

Also very surprising that only one of the brothers has been charged as of today.

Soon as I read their names I thought they might be illegal immigrants. The immigration policies in this country stink to the high heavens. Most countries have some requirements for immigrants to come into their country, we let anyone in. That is why I call this whole Homeland Security stuff a racket.

Much better than the LeBron James billboard that used to be in the same location with the same slogan.

Love it, Goombah. BTW, may I join the others in welcoming you back?? Great to see you around; hope the family is well.

Thanks SB! So nice to hear from you. We are doing well. Please accept my wishes this coming Sunday for a very Happy Mother's Day to you and all the mom's out there.

What a great Mother's Day present to have these women escape and reunited with their families.

With more details coming out today, I feel so sorry for those girls and am feeling outraged and angry. They were only out of that house only a couple times in ten years. The oldest girl helped deliver the baby of the other girl; there were several pregnancies (5?) and they were in some cases punched in the stomach into losing the baby. This piece of shit earned his place in the coldest deepest darkest corner of hell.


TIS

Scum like these guys exist and yet there are still people who don't believe in the death penalty.

They are apparently of Puerto Rican heritage. So they are American citizens by definition. They aren't immigrants.

Apples and oranges. Yes they are apparently scum (they are presumed innocent btw) and if they are convicted then they will officially be scum.

Opposition to the death penalty is an entirely different issue. In this case they could get the death penalty for Federal charges of kidnapping. It certainly did not deter these people from doing what they did.

Come on, Lilo, why let a little thing like the fact they are U.S. citizens get in the way of anti-Hispanic rants about immigration.

I believe that you are a lawyer Dontomasso? I don't know the answer, so that is why I am asking. Is kidnapping a federal crime, or does it become a federal crime only if the victim is taken across state lines?

Has anybody heard about the story of the Austrian girl Natascha Kampusch who was abducted in 1998 when she was ten, and freed herself in 2006 eight years later?
Her book, "3,096 Days in Captivity" is one of the best I've ever read. She's been a very smart (even wise) person. A girl with a big heart.
http://www.amazon.com/096-Days-Captivity...ywords=kampusch

I have asked this same question a few times, but I never get a direct answer. If so please tell us what kind of law you do.

NOt who you screw-

I believe in death penalty, but it would be too damn easy for them. They have abused physically and mentally these girls for ten years. Three lives have been completely ruined and have left a big damage that they won't get over in the nearest future.

I want these scum to be abused ten times more than they did to these girls and their families. They trully deserve it. If I was in the parents place, I'd get three more jobs and I'd pay everyone starting from the lowest prison guard to the Aryan Brotherhood so these scums gets raped and beaten everyday and NOT killed. So it'd be a bigger nightmare than for these girls.

When did acknowledign the US is chalk full of illegal immigrants who commit a lot of crime make one "anti-Hispanic?" I never heard anyone describe themselves as "Hispanic" either, is there some country called Hispania I missed in 17 years of schooling? "Hispanic" is a loaded term that has no meaning in real life.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispania

And would you be able to abuse and rape them?

This has nothing to do with the current day situation.

If I was a relative of one of these girls, I'm sure I'd be able to torture the guy who kidnapped them. I think every self confident man would be able to take revenge if someone close to him was harmed. And to answer your question, no I wouldn't be able as I'm not homosexual.

putting the death penalty aside for a minute, if we are going to give people like this long prison sentences, how about no more PC for these fucks? why should a rapist/child molester get special protection? let the prisoners sort it out themselves!

Copied & pasted from Facebook:


*******UPDATE 5/10/13***Kidnap victim Michelle Knight has requested that her family members not visit her in the hospital as she recovers from what has been an 11-year ordeal, apparently because those closest to her didn’t look for her after she disappeared.

*******UPDATE*******Michelle Knight is still being treated for anxiety at Metro Health Medical Center tonight. But Monday reports that Michelle is hospitalized, for possible reconstructive surgery, to heal injuries suffered at the hands of her attacker during her decade in captivity.
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Friends a special prayer to the forgotten victim Michelle Knight the first one kidnapped and longest one held, her disappearance was never really reported and she was never even looked for because she had family problems way before this even happened to her and her mom and family was a trip she still has refused to even see her mom so far, who came back up North for her 15 mins of fame. Michelle was the one called on by Ariel Castro to do all the dirty work and she was the oldest and the one that delivered Amanda Berry's child and when that child stopped breathing was told by Ariel Castro if that baby dies so will you, so she performed mouth to mouth and revived that child. He impregnated her 5 times but each time he would deliberately beat the baby out of her or starve it out! Remember she was there two years before the other girls ever got there, she is still in the hospital really going through mental stuff more so then the other girls she is the most frail cause he tortured her and starved her more so then the other two. Her face is badly disfigured the bones they say from the beatings and no health attendance to her wounds and that her hearing is practically gone from all the beatings. She doesn't have a home to go to and does not have the family support like the other two so a special prayer to Michelle Knight the forgotten victim.

This just breaks my heart in a million pieces.

Who said anything about "deterrence?" That's an old straw man argument that you anti-capital punishment libs like to bring up. The guy is a kidnapper, rapist, and murderer. He deserves the death penalty, plain and simple. Save your mealy mouth "apples and oranges" BS.

I hope they get the death penalty but first I want them to suffer as much as those girls are. Fucking pieces of shit.

Pretty sure only the one brother (Ariel Castro) has been charged. I read the 2 other brothers won't be charged at all in the case.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/05/09/ari...rosecutor-says/

+1

been a few of these cases recently.It seems more common for people like this to do it to their own kids or step kids , than actually going out to kidnap others.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...l#ixzz2QvSHYAut

There was another case where the parents had put their 6 year old autistic son in a cage too.

34 girls were reported missing in this same general area over the last few years. Some within a few weeks or months of each other.

What does that say to the police who watch out for people in that area. That can't be the norm can it?

Or was it that the area was poor and mostly non white? Do they write these people off as run a ways?

didnt the girls say that there was another girl with them that just mysteriously dissapeared one day.

34 girls, that is pretty fucked up. Its not impossible that this guy could have something to do with it, the green river killer killed more than that.

He's a suspect in the Ashley Summers case a girl who went missin in 2007 when she was 14. Here's an article about it - http://www.heavy.com/news/2013/05/ashley-summers-cleveland-kidnapping/

Wow. Something that started out as a news story about the miracle of ending the torture these girls have endured has degenerated into a left v. right argument over what punishment the kidnappers should get. Color me surprised.

I can't imagine what these three girls have suffered and I hope and pray that they somehow find some peace.

If deciding the punishment for this guy was be up to me, I would tie him up in the middle of the town where these atrocities occurred and let the local populace (and others who would undoubtedly come from far away) do whatever they wanted to this guy.

I actually agree with Ivy here. The death penalty should only be applied as a matter of justice. It will never work as a deterrent anyway. You can't deter people like this with the threat of death because they just don't care.

You made an incorrect assumption on their immigration status based on their last name. Why?

Anyway there are millions of people who describe themselves as Hispanic or Latino. I even know a few in relatively monochrome Michigan. "Hispanic" is a linguistic/cultural/ethnic term that can include anyone from Ted Cruz to Natalie Martinez to George Lopez to Louis CK. It obviously has meaning to those who self-identify as Hispanic.

And while I am not at all a fan of illegal immigration, illegal immigrants do not disproportionately commit crime.

But again the illegal immigrant crime rate, good or bad, is completely and thoroughly irrelevant to this case as Ariel Castro was born a US citizen.

Lilo, please stop trying to obfuscate with facts.

Yeah. You can go blind from doing that.

I read a report that one of the victims wants no contact with most of her family. I'm not sure why, but I hope her privacy on this is respected.

I saw that too Kly. They speculated that it was because parents were told by police that since she was of age (21 I think) that she could have just ran away. Maybe she feels they didn't look for her? Then again, that's only speculation. It very well could be she had a rotten relationship with her family. But I agree, she needs privacy. It sounds like she may need extra help recovering if she can't count on her family. Pretty sad.



TIS

Why do some Board members insist on typing inane posts. P.L 82-414, Immigration and Nationality Act was passed by Congress in the early 50s. It is still the primary law governing immigration to the US. Just a little bit of research might expose them to at least some degree of accuracy.

Michelle Knight refuses to meet with her family because she feels they gave up on her. The kidnapper used to torture the girls by showing them televised stories about candlelight vigils held by the families. It was only the two other girls who had families that kept looking for them this way. Also, Ms. Knight was very abused - she was starved and/or beaten so that she miscarried five separate times. She was also made to deliver Ms. Berry's daughter and was told that if this baby died, she would be killed.

Ariel Castro commits suicide

http://news.yahoo.com/ohio-man-held-3-women-captive-commits-suicide-043500304.html

What a coward..

Everybody despised him and his family has disowned him. He was facing regular beatings if he was ever in general population and isolation if he wasn't. He wasn't sorry for what he did, so what reason did he have for sticking around? Most people think he did the taxpayers a favor.

While I agree he's a coward, at least it may give those poor young women a modicum of peace.

hopefully the suicide story is bullshit and he was murdered

Let's hope so.

He keep them for 10 years and his coward ass can't do a month,a real coward.

I'm sure the sentence he's getting now is worse than the 1000 year sentence he received.

let's hope so!