The C-Word is like the N-Word... depends on its context, and to whom and how you're saying it.
There's a difference between calling your buddy/mate a bloody [BadWord] when fooling around, versus screaming "You are a fucking [BadWord]!" to a woman.
It's one of my favorite words, but I never use it in polite company or in public. And I never get angry enough to scream it at someone to their face. But my best friend? He's a [BadWord] and knows it.
It's funny, when I hear Americans say [BadWord], it sounds weird to me as opposed to us Aussies or the English who use regularly. When Americans say it, It sounds so much worse.
I despise the word. I think it's crass, vulgar, misogynistic and demeaning. I do understand what you both have said about context, but I think that anyone who uses it that easily WILL use it to refer to a woman, even if it's not "to their face".
And WHY you would call anyone a "Canadian" is beyond me!
OK, the first paragraph I actually meant. To me, it's a relaxing of ideals to use that word, or any other word like it. Geoff mentioned the "N" word and how it's all a matter of context. To me, using it in any context defeats the battles that people fought so that the word became unacceptable in general society. Do you know what I mean? Their use diminishes the strides that were made by those before us. There were days when it was commonplace to refer to others in a demeaning way - whether you used the N word, the C word, "the little woman", no matter.
We have fought many fights so that we are hopefully ALL perceived as human FIRST, and then by race, gender or creed. To use those words takes us backwards.
That's my feeling, at least. Maybe I'm in the minority, but that's what I feel.
I despise the word. I think it's crass, vulgar, misogynistic and demeaning. I do understand what you both have said about context, but I think that anyone who uses it that easily WILL use it to refer to a woman, even if it's not "to their face".
And WHY you would call anyone a "Canadian" is beyond me!
That pretty much sums up my feelings too. I hate the f-word too, but last few years find myself freely using it. Still don't like it though. I will take a guess that most women DON'T use the "C" word and actually hate it. Imagine, being called a "Candadian."
Whisper, I remember there was a very big blow-up on this board when a former member called me the C Word. I remember that Bogey and I shared our thoughts on it, and she didn't feel the way I did at all.
Perhaps it's generational. I know that my daughter finds it very offensive, but that might be after listening to me all these years.
We have fought many fights so that we are hopefully ALL perceived as human FIRST, and then by race, gender or creed. To use those words takes us backwards.
I think putting so much meaning behind the word counteracts that purpose.
For instance, I can call someone on here a wop, he can call me a mick and we can laugh about it. I can call whisper a [BadWord] and he can laugh while I wonder if he understands what it means. You see, if we all stop being so offended at everything and just laugh at the idea then it doesn't matter anymore. It becomes non-offensive and useless as a weapon against others.
I called a girl a [BadWord] several times to her face a few months back, very aggressively. It had the desired effect. If she hadn't acted like a [BadWord] I'd have had no reason to call her one. If someone's a bastard, you call them a bastard.
One of my dialogue exchanges in The Sopranos:
Christopher: "Right now we're just two guys lost in the fuckin' woods." Paulie: "We're not lost. Stop gettin' c_nty."
You see, if we all stop being so offended at everything and just laugh at the idea then it doesn't matter anymore. It becomes non-offensive and useless as a weapon against others.
This is certainly true, though I still agree with JG that it depends on the context - who's saying it, who they're saying it to, the context of the sentence and the tone in which it is said.
Take "queer", for example. It was never used to connote homosexuals, but then when it starts to become derogatory and widely used, the "homosexual community" adopted it and wore it like a badge. Gay Pride and all that. It's no longer a weapon.
Still, I see gay intellectuals are in no rush to adopt "F_ggot theory".
I very RARELY use the "c" word in mixed company. VERY RARELY. ALMOST NEVER. But put me in a group of guys and it becomes a regular part of my vocabulary.
I think that anyone who uses it that easily WILL use it to refer to a woman, even if it's not "to their face".
I can only speak for myself here, but -- at least in my case -- I totally disagree with this.
There is absolutely no word off limits to me -- but at the same time, there's a time and place for everything. When I'm with my buddies, that's the time and place. lol But when I'm, say, with my family, I don't dare curse at all -- not even a "crap" or "shit" or "ass" or "hell" outta me! And I don't even ever slip, either. Luckily!
But if someone cuts me off and almost causes an accident, you will certainly hear every and any word at my disposal -- but they'll never hear it (unless they can read lips ). Whether it's a man or a woman, they can be a C-Word. I otherwise never yell at anyone, nor call anyone names out of anger. Ever. I use the worst words playfully, with my friends. And only call people names with my "bestest" of best friends who know I'm just playing.
Words can hurt. That's why I never use them in a hurtful/angry way.
The C word is used by me in a derogatory sense. It emblemises the visuals of a females private parts when used in a curse, hence the "secretive" violation of a woman.
If this was a crime, I would be up at least 30 counts of indecency.
Re: The C Word. (Warning explicit thread) - 01/08/0911:09 PM
It's always interested me how in Australia or other English speaking countries certain words can be used VERY differently than they are in the US.
Ultimately words are just words of course but the "c-word" is widely considered to be the most offensive thing you could call a woman in the US-at least in the parts of the US I've been in. You call someone that and at the very least there will be some very hard feelings...
I very RARELY use the "c" word in mixed company. VERY RARELY. ALMOST NEVER. But put me in a group of guys and it becomes a regular part of my vocabulary.
Do I need to get a c-word detecter for the guy's thread?
Why would anyone swear? I don't. My father and mother never did either. I'm surprised at some of you stating that certain swear words can be excused if used in a certain context. Swearing is an expression of weakness and it reflects on your upbringing. I realize that some of you may have been brought up in a trashy household, but I think you would have matured and eschewed swear words.
You know what I just noticed? We all have our opinions of this "C" word and swearing in general. Yet, it's a pretty hot topic today. Look at the General Discussion page here. Aside from a post I made (which I think is pretty scary) on th WTF is up with the economy thread, that's all that's been talked about all afternoon.
BTW, the company you keep CAN contribute to your language (among other things). For instance, I may cringe at the grammar used by some of my friends -- and egads, sometimes it slips out of my mouth because I'm surrounded by it so much! Cursing, too... look what we did to TIS!!!!
Why would anyone swear? I don't. My father and mother never did either. I'm surprised at some of you stating that certain swear words can be excused if used in a certain context. Swearing is an expression of weakness and it reflects on your upbringing. I realize that some of you may have been brought up in a trashy household, but I think you would have matured and eschewed swear words.
Sorry. We all can't be perfect, and come from non-trashy homes like you.
Why would anyone swear? I don't. My father and mother never did either. I'm surprised at some of you stating that certain swear words can be excused if used in a certain context. Swearing is an expression of weakness and it reflects on your upbringing. I realize that some of you may have been brought up in a trashy household, but I think you would have matured and eschewed swear words.
Why would anyone swear? I don't. My father and mother never did either. I'm surprised at some of you stating that certain swear words can be excused if used in a certain context. Swearing is an expression of weakness and it reflects on your upbringing. I realize that some of you may have been brought up in a trashy household, but I think you would have matured and eschewed swear words.
There are "curses", like fuck or shit. Yes, we probably shouldn't use them as often as we do, but we do.
However, there are words that are used to describe a group of people, whether by race or creed or gender, that are demeaning. They are not "swear words" or "curses". Those are the kind of words that I personally have a problem with.
Why would anyone swear? I don't. My father and mother never did either. I'm surprised at some of you stating that certain swear words can be excused if used in a certain context. Swearing is an expression of weakness and it reflects on your upbringing. I realize that some of you may have been brought up in a trashy household, but I think you would have matured and eschewed swear words.
I don't know about anyone else, but this sounds like a lot of fuckin' bullshit to me.
Uh oh, Mama Mig's (fuckin) mad. She's gonna eat her Spaghetti-O's and get beefed up like Popeye after he eats his spinach and then the real trouble starts!
It's the R-Word, with one less syllable, but substitute the "A" with an "E" so that it rhymes with the L-Word if you remove the second dipthong and treat the T as silent.
It's the R-Word, with one less syllable, but substitute the "A" with an "E" so that it rhymes with the L-Word if you remove the second dipthong and treat the T as silent.
They do drop the "C" word on Curb from time to time. I love the episode you referenced, Capo. I also loved the one with the chef who has turrets started swearing and everyone else joined in. Jeff's wife Suzy called Larry's wife a "car wash c---." It was in reference to an earlier scene and quite hilarious.
Why would anyone swear? I don't. My father and mother never did either. I'm surprised at some of you stating that certain swear words can be excused if used in a certain context. Swearing is an expression of weakness and it reflects on your upbringing. I realize that some of you may have been brought up in a trashy household, but I think you would have matured and eschewed swear words.
My parents both used curse words and still do. I do also, but only out of habit and rarely, rarely, rarely will I use them in the presence of others -- especially women.
I was never one for "guy talk," you know, sitting around seeing who can fart the loudest and make the best [BadWord] jokes. It was never my style and I hope my children follow my lead.
Uh oh, Mama Mig's (fuckin) mad. She's gonna eat her Spaghetti-O's and get beefed up like Popeye after he eats his spinach and then the real trouble starts!
I'm really late on the seriousness of the conversation, as it's become very funny (as it should) but I don't say the C word only because I don't like the sound of it. The harsh C and T make the sound of the word ugly. But I don't get offended when others say it.
With five daughters, I have some experience with such things. Girls have to be concerned about "things" in that area because of hygiene, etc.......
Should we imply, because of a statement like that, that you were brought up in a trashy household?!? That a statement like that reflects a questionable upbringing?!?! That your parents did a horrible job in teaching you proper from improper because now being a parent yourself, you've made yourself experienced with your daughter's feminine practices?
That would not be a fair accusation to make of you or your parents. It wouldn't be a fair assessment of your upbringing. It wouldn't be respectful to indicate by your statement that you live in a trashy household or that you were not brought up the right way by your parents.
olivant, don't know what's gotten into you lately, and I am not trying to start an "attack olivant" thread here, but it's been quite obvious and clear by many of your replies lately that you've been extremely arrogant, judgemental and outright rude to many here on the boards. Your replies really have reflected a "holier than thou" attitude. They've reflected an " I'm smarter and more educated than you" attitide.
Perhaps you don't mean it. Perhaps you don't realize it. Maybe you really need to choose your words more carefully, stop generalizing and show a bit more respect towards others.
Or perhaps you do mean it and you really do believe that you are smarter than everyone else here. And if this is the case than I really feel sorry for you.
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As for the topic originally being discussed, I personally despise BOTH the C word and the N word.
I don't think oli's comment was meant to offend. That's how he feels, and it's refreshing to know that there are actually those out there today who still feel that way.
That said, while I agree with MOST of what he said, I'd probably just keep my mouth shut so as not to offend. But that's me.